Why Baba is better than Anna



An article that I wrote on Anna Hazare evoked extreme reactions.  One section, a minority, read it as an objective piece that unraveled the activist, about whom only a one-dimensional narrative has been available. A majority of the readers accused me of being biased against Anna, who they considered as the only hope for a country that is being ruined by the ‘political class,’ a loose term used mostly in a pejorative sense by our middle class. If you are reading this, it is very likely that you are one of Anna’s supporters.

Another piece I wrote on Baba Ramdev had similar reactions, but the sense one could make is that Anna is more popular among those who are tuned into the anti-corruption campaigns. There is a general discomfort among the “educated and intelligent sections of the civil society” (Kiran Bedi’s description in an unrelated context) that Baba Ramdev is not good company. Anna is confused – he wavers between supporting and criticizing the Baba.

Speaking to several people in different fields, I have formulated a comparison between Anna and Baba.

Both Anna and Baba display shocking ignorance of the working of a representative democracy. Both want death penalty for the corrupt, a savage demand, given the fact that capital punishment is a highly controversial debate world over. Both lack proper formal education. Both are ambitious, trying to use the name and success they earned in their respective areas of activity to claim a national profile, far beyond their intellect and capabilities.

Anna could command more credibility perhaps because all of us like our leaders to be old, pious and poor. Baba is young, rich, stylish in his own way and flamboyant – the combination that suggests an instant scam. Things that we secretly aspire for, but loathe in others, especially in our leaders.

But I like the Baba more than Anna. Anna has achieved something extraordinary in his village. But he has failed or did not bother to scale it up to other places. He drifted from one issue to other and finally landed up in the alien territory of lawmaking. He had the backing of international agencies and media.

The Baba is self-made man who became an international figure in just 15 years flat after he left his village. Puritans deride his yoga, but he is a genius as far as discovering the market potential of the ancient practice is concerned. But for his ill-informed adventure into politics, Baba Ramdev is one of the biggest successes of free market India.

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  • RAMESH AGARWAL

    BABA RAMDEVJI STARTED CAMPAIGN AGAINST MNCS, CONCENTRATING ON OUR ANCIENT CULTURE OF YOG AND AYURVEDA, PROPOGATING FOR INDIANISATION, INCULCATING SPIRIT OF NATIONALISM AND SINCE LAST 9 MONTHS STARTED A CAMPAIGN AGAINST CORRUPTION AND FOR BRINING BACK BLACK MONEY AND HONOURING OUR MARTYERS AND LEADERS FOUGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE BUT FORGOOTEN BY COUNTRY.HE HAS LARGE FOLLOWING NOT ONLY IN INDIA BUT ABROAD AND ENHANCED PRESTIGE OF COUNTRY.FORMAL EDUCATION IS NOT ESSENTIAL.HE HAS NO LUST FOR POLITICS.SINCE HE HAS ACHIVED FAME HE ALSO GOT FEW ENEMIES AS IS THE CASE ALWAYS.HE IS DOING GREAT SERVICE TO NATION BY INTRODUCING MANY LOCAL PRODUCTS ATCHEAP RATE FOR WHICH HE SHOULD BE APPRECIATED HE HAS GREAT FOLLOWERS AMONGST POLITICIANS BUT SOME OF THEM HAVE DESERTED HIM AS PER THEIR MENTALITY WHEN ASK BY HIGH COMMAND WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE.OPPOSITION TO RAMDEV MEANS OPPOSITION TO CORRUPTION, MNCS, BLACK MONEY AND INDDIANISATION.

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    J. Kr. Reply:

    i agree here that Baba has this excellent side which is the light he is throwing into lives of needy, its great – but then he has another side which is dark – one example is the lies he spoke and got Ramlila grounds on pretext of organising yoga classes for 5000; instead he did ‘fast unto death’ agitation with 50000 people for which he had no permission, secondly he ran away like a girl without taking any lathi blows when attacked, yet he called this a satyagrah like Gandhiji’s – we don’t expect this from a high person like Baba behaving like ordinary dirty politicans we are used seeing so often, we certainly are shocked by seeing Baba end up like a person who might have vested interests to popularise himself amongst his followings to sell more of his products like marketing gurus of the world do or get into politics in future!.. .

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    SHAM MUTTOO Reply:

    I cannot understand people like Ramesh Agarwal targetting just MNC? Or just politicians. I’m sure he has, or heard, that even a telephone lineman who come to repair a tel line connection, asks for a ‘TIP’. But who pays this? WE THE PEOPLE. We are guilty of paying bribes so why blame others or MNCs. So please stop this blame game, and lets tackle this world-wide issue in a practical way and if you cannot, pl allow the Govt to tackle this. Our PM, who we pride ourselves in his honesty, should be trusted rather than a upstart like Baba Ramdev (who has amassed great wealth himselves). So give the PM and the Govt sometime to think and not be pressurised into doing something hastily. They’ve reasssured us that they will do it, so allow them to do it in a peaceful manner.

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    Bhavin Hirapara Reply:

    What both of them are doing is great for our nation.But BABA missed a moment and Anna hitted it right on target.how? What happened at Ramlila was serious issue and government has to give answer for that but by running out from there because of life threat BABA just loose Respect & Support of pepole.If he stayed there and fought for same with his hunger strike then probably the scenario may be different and he might get more support than Anna Hazare and impact of that may shaken the pillars of UPA government but the result of hunger strike,because of missing a moment,is probably nothing.But at the other end Anna Hazare is continuously asking governmet for results on Lokpal and he stood up at what he said at the beggining of their campaign against corruption and the timing was just perfect because he started the campaign when the India has just won the world cup and Nation as whole came together to enjoy that moment so that time there was power of unity presernt and Anna Hazare drives it better than anyone else could.

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  • Gaurav G

    A powerful collection of confused arguments that pretty much sounds like the article flowed from the title, and not vice versa!

    The author seems determined to first unite 2 completely different approaches/ individuals/ philosophies, then weigh them based on an equally random scale: free-market economics and marketing savvy.

    It’s like saying tea is similar to coffee since both are wet; then “proving” the superiority of tea by speaking of packaging. (!!)

    Sorry, an extremely disappointing article.

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    varghese Reply:

    the comparison is valid only in the context as defined in the article. why is Anna more popular among a particular section of civil society compared to Baba. both happened in the same context of fight against corruption. ya, it is pretty much like me saying i like tea better than coffee. nothing wrong with that. does one need to be disappointed about that? :-)

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  • http://Web.de N Sharma

    I do not want to even bother comparing the two. Both are fighting against Corruption.Baba wants the money of Indians stacked in foreign banks back to India. Anna wants India corruption free.
    None has defined CORRUPTION.
    How will they choose to eliminate the evil and which one first.I will give a list of few.Bribes are demanded everywhere and you are harassed.

    Obtain your birth certificate
    Get a school admission
    Going to Courts for anything from getting a domicile certificate or marriage registration.
    Police departments
    Obtain a ration card ,gas cylinder etc.
    Housing schemes
    IAS officers
    IPS officers
    Chatered Accountants
    Govt. Hospitals
    Railway bookings
    Customs
    Income tax officers ,all staff
    MLA
    MP
    Minister
    And the list will go on & on.
    Above are people I interacted and my bad experiences.
    My plea: clean yourself and pledge to clean the society,No Baba or Anna can clean the nation India if we cannot see ourselves in the mirror with pride and confidence.

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    Ash Reply:

    The stacking of money abroad emanates from corruption. The money which is obtained (not earned) illegally finds its way to foreign banks invariably. So the crux of the problem is illegal generation of money and there are many ways to obtain that primarily through evasion of taxes, corruption, real-estate sale, fraud and more. Since Anna’s campaign is somewhat hitting at the root of the problem, I would tend to support Anna’s campaign more than Ramdev’s. I agree both are not as savvy and lack understanding of complexities involved in tackling such issues. May be they have picked nimble words (corruption and “Videshi kala dhan”) so that the common man can understand them and support them in numbers leaving technicalities and details for others to tackle. Sometimes I also think why Ramdev picked up an issue like “Videshi kala dhan” as opposed to others such as “Desi Kala Dhan”, tax evasion, graft money, illegal hoarding. Is it because in doing so he would hurt the least number of his followers? It may also be good to reflect on why people do what they do especially when one obtains fame and power – for most the greed just grows and for the other few who have come to realize the limitations of their need they go the Anna and Ramdev’s way. I think we need to support the latter kind.

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  • MM

    The author writes a piece of Sh** I must say. Does not have any iota of commonsense to say the least.

    Author says “Both Anna and Baba display shocking ignorance of the working of a representative democracy” and to this I would like to say that Anna/Baba not only knows the working of representative democracy BUT also knows th pitfalls and the way representatives of the working democracy have ruined the India. So much so that no political person have guts to say that yes we suppoer the Jan Lokpal bill as drafted by the civil society. They have plundered India since last 64 years and wish to do so for coming 1000 years. Annaji have shown guts to protest and have no ambitions as such to become the power at the centre or whereever. He started his protest just as an ordinary citizen and today also he is an ordinary BUT highly responsible citizen. Author’s juvinile comments are just nothing bu just like a kid commenting something about his father… which at best can just be brushed aside. What these representatives of the working demorcacy have done that they should not be monitered ? Why they should not be held accountable when they do something wrong ? What is their intrest to join politics ..Public Service ? They join politics just to rape and ruin the India. The watchdog like JanLokpal bill is absolutely necessary just as we all need an air to survive.

    Regarding capital punishment…. I can tell you that since we dont have tough and intimidating laws, peopl / capitalist take advange of the situation and can run away with virtually any crime. Capital punishment is symbolic and is just asked to be there to intimidate… and does not imply that you were involved in some 500 Rs corruption… you would be hanged. Anyways… Anna and team have already conceded here to agree for the life term as the maximum punishment.

    Next, autho shamefully speaks about the “lack proper formal education” whereas I have high conviction that he himself is more uneducated then the worst uneducated guy. He does not understand that.. first….. the world what we see today is the gift of formally uneducated people. I would just give some examples for this authors enlightenment…

    1. Michael Faraday – A guy who worked in a London book shop, with virtually no formal education.
    2. Willian Herschel – (A guy who discovered Uranus) – had no formal education in Astronomy… and was just a musician.
    3. Srinivasa Ramanujan – He has been just an impoverished teenager…and see what a mathematician he was intellectually.

    4. And I dont want to talk about other inventors and reat businessmen who won the world…..

    Here, I would say most important is the social education… and Annaji is supremely eduacated in this regard. He knows what he is speaking…. 10000% better than our so called eduacated Diggi, S. Pawar and all the other politicians and congressmen(including our mum PM).

    But still if you are talling about education, then I have to say… as the old saying goes.. the man is known by the company he keeps… and never ever forget… that Annaji’s company is Kiran Bedi… Mr. Kejriwal et al…. and if anybody wants to know about their education and achievements… then jus check the wikipedia. These people have already a national profile…. not by begging and making self paid statues, posters and hoardings,…..but by virtue of their proven work.

    Last but not the least… you spoke about that Anna ji is successful only in the village…. is such a sad and amateur statement that I would say… that you should rather drop the journalism but just go somewhere and open the juice stall etc. You just dont understand that Annaji has rose from Village to National level persona…. which people needed 10s of years.. he could do so in only 3 months. This is the might of Anna. I wish he succeeds in his endevaours… the fruit of which will be enjoyed by poorest to the richest of this country….

    The corruption is now so deeprooted and India has become such a black economy that its impossible for the middle class family to do more than survival. Can you buy home in Delhi etc. You need 80% black money and just 20% white… why has this situation become…just because our economy is ruled and made… JUST BLACK….

    -MM

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    varghese Reply:

    that both lack formal education is not a value judgment in the article – it is a mere statement of fact. please don’t get worked up about it. :-)

    but that does not take away from the fact that both Anna and Baba are ignorant. they have no sense of how systems function, what is constitution and what is judiciary. as far being against corruption, are we all not? who is FOR corruption?

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  • Lakshmi

    Everyone in good conscience should fight for this. However, I have no opinion on these people that call themselves babas. While Anna goes about his business and questions Govt and sends a wake up call to the nation, Ramdev what Ramdev does seems like it is about him more than the issue. Sorry, Ramdev sounds like a person that needs a lot of introspection and growing up to do. Don’t compare them.

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    varghese Reply:

    the fight against corruption by both are inadequate and ill-informed. leaving that apart, i find Baba a man of determination and attitude. it’s very very subjective a take, of course

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  • Akka Chandar

    Did Sonia receive formal education? Did she earn her way to be the leader of a national party?

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    Deep Reply:

    That this nation of youth relies on these two individuals to fight corruption is nothing short of disgraceful. Until the youth mobilize and take on the system, nothing is going to change.

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    varghese Reply:

    the only qualification that you require to lead in a democracy is that you win elections. Sonia Gandhi has been winning elections. it is funny that people who accuse Sonia, Lalu Prasad and Rabri Devi of being not educated as per their standards, find nothing wrong in the ignorance of Anna and Baba! these chaps cannot win election, nor do they bring any expertise on to the table so that we suffer them. and yes, Sonia did earn her way to be the leader of the national party. she did not take it up initially, when the party was on a down-slide she took over and brought it to power. we need agree with her on anything; but her popularity is a matter of fact, not of opinion

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    Sahil Reply:

    Apparently the lack of education of Mrs Sonia Gandhi does not trouble you but when it comes to Baba and Anna… ??? Sonia did not earn her way to be the leader of national party – she got it as a gift of dynasty politics… i doubt you will deny that.

    She is popular – Lets just say there is no alternative that people have. Dont say BJP because they cant so not even have a good PM candidate. (When Mr Atal Bihari was there – BJP did win but there is noone after him.)

    I do not think people have a problem with ignorance its rather with rampant corruption that they have a problem with which is going on with the help of our dear Sonia ji.

    As far as your argument of “shocking ignorance of the working of a representative democracy” you are correct to a certain extent but then this situation has come as a result of SHOCKING CORRUPTION by the people who according to you have a great knowledge of representative democracy (Read: Politicians) – Why dont you write about their lack of acumen and hipocracy.

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  • subhash

    AS THE ISSUE IS CORRUPTION, YOU SHOULD HAVE VENTURED : U.P.A. IS BETTER THAN N.D.A.
    OR YOU PAID NEWS IS THE BEST NEWS; OR I LOVE CORRUPT POLITICIANS AS THEIR ACT OF OMISSION & COMMISSION ARE DEMOCRATIC.

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    sunil jain Reply:

    there shuold be no comparision between the two .both are taking up the important national cause but the approach of both the compagin leading to the final outcome so far is not appropriate as it must be understood that given the present consitutional provisions and laws that are goverened , the matter can only be stretched to a level which can be implemented within the framework of our constitution.a sincere effort indeed has been initiated but it must reach to a logical end and the maximum that can be fetched should be allowed without making any prestige issue by either civil society or the govt. Given the present circumstances where a law is pending for more than 42 years ,the golden oppurtinity to prepare a strict lokpal bill with the public discussion has to be rather appriciated and the provisions can be further discussed by the polical parties and amendments that can be further made to improve legiststion can be incorporated finally. but the process must go on and the deadlock should not jeopartise the cause at stake.

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    Guest Reply:

    Both are great in their own capacity and using their influence on anti corruption movement.
    comparing both does not make any sense, only thing you need to compare is who is capable of getting the Lokpal bill passed.
    The key thing both are missing is how to take advantage of atmosphere they have created for anti-corruption movement.
    This is not a small issue to get passed quickly in Parliament, Parliament need to pass this bill , so that it becomes law.
    Anna’s mistake declaring too early the dead line for the bill, this need to be properly debated in public/parliament before converting in law.
    Baba’s mistake was that there is no need to another fasting-till-death , he should have used the anti-corruption movement using his TV channel
    programs, visiting all over india , making people aware of lokpal bill , and then try to put pressure on government. In all they are rushing too fast.

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    Aakash Reply:

    How educated are u? Before u respond, I am not talking about degrees u have earned, I am talking about education.
    There is a famous quote by Mark Twain: ” I’ve never let my school interfere with my education”.
    but am sure u will not understand it, because ur schooling didnt cover this quote.

    and if it is about schooling, then even ur Sonia Gandhi whom u took money from to write these articles, isnt schooled, oh, sorry, educated.

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    varghese Reply:

    please refer to the response to a similar question above. and good that u are still open to being educated, unlike Anna!! :)

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  • HPN

    Fasting has been a self-purification exercise known since ages. As far as I know it was Gandhiji who used it to for the achievement of a public cause he considered as just. The British used to give in to him for the fear that if he dies, more and more people may switch over to violent ways. As for your comparison of Baba Ramdev and Anna Hazare, the later is sticking to his chosen expertise. Ramdev chartered into a new venture of using fast for achieving, God knows what. He was jealous of the instant support and media limelight that Anna got from the civil society (ie the people from all walks of life who are fed-up with the corruption in the ruling class). Ramdev thought he can do better as he has a dedicated band of volunteers who have benefited from his yoga teachings and was doing fine until it came out that he is inconsistent in his approach. Look at the following:

    He himself said that 99 percent of his demands have been conceded and yet wanted to continue with his fast.

    When police action came, he ran away from the venue when he only needed to court arrest.

    He could not sustain his fast for more than a week.

    In contrast, Anna succeeded in making the government accept his demand for a role in the drafting of a strong Lokpal bill. Now that the government is falling short of meeting this demand, it will be for the people again to mobilise and not fall to the machinations of the cunning and self serving politicians.

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  • Champak Shah

    Blaming government will not solve any problem. After all, it was elected by people. Bribe and corruptions are every level of life. It would be prudent, our civil leaders like Anna and Ramdev use their civil position and influence to teach their followers and common people not to involve in giving or taking bribes. Bribe is sin. If people, will not learn from Saint or Gandhian then who will inspire them.
    Fasting and agitation will trivialize the cause.

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    varghese Reply:

    absolutely. fasting against corruption is like fasting against AIDS or communalism!! no harm, but no use either…unfortunately.

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  • J. Kr.

    Anna is undoubtedly more transparent while baba has crores of black money flowing into his system from thousands of followers who generate this money by evading tax system in india -

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    varghese Reply:

    m not so sure…Anna has refused to explain his parochial positions against north Indians; we dont know what he thinks of Narendra Modi and even Baba Ramdev. What does he think of globalisation, MNCs and Indo-US nuclear deal? unless a leader has a composite world view, to merely state that ‘I am against corruption,’ makes no sense. everyone is against corruption for that matter!! Anna has steadfastly refused to explain his positions, after making wavering statements. i sought an interview with him and he refused. All his interviews have been granted with the precondition that he will speak only on corruption. transparency is about taking – and answering – uncomfortable questions.

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  • James Bond

    It is time for corruption queen, italian madam maino gandhy to go back to italy, taking her toys and boys also.

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  • raman

    Why Varghese K George worse than congress?…

    The list continues……

    Traffic Police
    Change the name of the person under the house is
    Indian Airports
    BSNL
    Passport
    Admission in kindergarten (seriously)
    Getting roads done near your house or in your society
    House Renovation , taking permission to build a new floor etc

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  • http://WWW/google naidu.S

    SharmaJi,

    You may be Partly correct. Perhaps you might heard a Sanskrit saying: ” Yada Raja Thada Praja” meaning. If Raja is corrupt people are also bound to be corrupt.

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  • Indian_Abroad

    I wonder about the intentions of the author.
    Both are fighting against corruption.
    There is no question or need for any comparision.

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    varghese Reply:

    Hope things are better Abroad, Indian….haha

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  • s ramji

    If Anna can assure that the onlookers of his fast would avoid corruption – that would be great service he does to nation -more than the Lokpal Bill. i want him to declare that any common man can get service from those in the ground in their normal operations without paying bribe. Assuming Mr B. Hazare say 35 years is in the crowd – anyone coming across mr B Hazare in the RTO will not have to pay bribes to get his work done. Also Anna Hazare should put his investigative journalists to check the quantum of black money with Ramdev and sit in fast unto death in front of Patanjali Trust – till Ramdev does not surrender his black money to government – if not to the central government -whom he hates – to the Utharakand government . If Anna does this the nation will follow him without asking any questions.

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  • d.k

    what matter is the aim , i strongly disagree with the writer and ask him about the politicians how many are educated and know about constitution this article smells of congress funding
    SHAME ON THE WRITER TO WRITE SUCH NON SENSE TO DIVERT PUBLIC

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    varghese Reply:

    oh well, i can guarantee you that the peon at the RJD office knows better constitution and law than them…:-)

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  • Candor

    Both Anna and Ramdev’s crusade against corruption is applaudable. Ramdev may be criticized for huge asset base become of his following across the country and abroad also but this should not be seen as a weakness of the man. His entering politics is because of pressure from his followers to clean politics also. However, it is not an easy game and Congressmen may restore to hooliganism to trouble him. There is nothing wrong if religious people are arousing opposition in people against corrupt practices in the society.

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  • rahul roy

    Why the context of corruption is missing from the article seems like media wants to divide there supporters nice trick played by congress

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  • Gautam

    Anna has been trying or rather posted in a role of a nation maker. He every bit relishes it. If people who came up on the stage to support Ramdev if are supposed to be core Hinduists and so supposed to be tainted, but these lot were always there in the frequent shibirs and at the Haridwar gatherings. But the people who joined Anna were recent ones. Many of them have tried their luck at the electoral or for getting a ticket. They know no one will support them, so whu why not climb up the wagon. Mallika, Bedi. Bhushans, Patkar… none has the capacity to be a law maker (through election) so are trying to usurp the process. Many of these are seminar attending, air traveling, staying in star hotels, but have never revealed their sources of income or financial support. Patkar, Bhushans, all should come clean on these aspects. Fight for corruption must start at home not in the street for media tamasha.

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  • Capt.P.N.Sharma

    Baba Ramdev; has already accredited an outstanding achievement by his recent Satyagraha against corruption; by his selfless spirit of true contribution to help transcend the public of India; which time will unveil sooner or later. India would always remain blessed as long as such sages are revered by society.
    In addition, Sri Anna Hazare and his team are also doing an excellent job assigned to them as a task to serve humanity & build a New India.
    Both such movements are a result & indication of the Divine power to restore the True image and potential of India which will usher not only India but the entire planet of ours towards greater dimensions very soon.
    Such Samaritans do not seek any parallel govt. as commented by the critics, but; they are the chosen ones who would steer the world towards a new era by ending the pangs of evil dominating & scuttling the evolutionary progress of mankind upon our weary planet and its occupants.
    The contemporary demand of God necessitates; the so-called learned yogis & revered Gurus globally to shed their secluded way of life and JOIN the mainstream of our society to guide, lift and help all transcend to higher planes of human-consciousness in order to enjoy its wondrous outcome. The dawn of a new era is knocking at our doors; welcome it before it gets late. Nature has plans which need to be unfolded by the human race which is prepared to adapt a superior way of life and not merely submit to that which is outdated and evil. It is absolutely imperative that: the principles of Truth & Righteousness are esteemed as top priority for implementation into our daily lives. God; the creator of this magnificent world is a manifestation of Truth; all by itself. That governance which supports evil / corruption and hatred-ness towards the ignorant & humble citizenry is a colossal disgrace which needs to be condemned worldwide.
    Capt. P.N.Sharma
    3226 / 21-D, Chandigarh, India. (m) 9815002322

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  • JITENDRA GORASHIA

    PLEASE DO NOT MAKE COMPARISON OR DOUBT ON THESE ACTIVITS. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN WAY OF GATHERING MASSES WHICH IS AN UTMOST REQUIREMENT. POLITICIANS JAMAT IS TRYING TO MAKE PARTIONS WITH A SOLE AIM TO DILUTE THE RISING DEMANDS AGAINST CORRUPTION. HANGING THE CORRUPT IN PUBLIC SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN IN ITS LITERAL SENSE BUT ITS CONTENTION TO PROVIDE HARSH PUNISHMENT SHOULD BE VISUALISED.PLEASE DO NOT DIVIDE THE CIVIL SOCIETY BY RAISING TRIVIAL AND NON RELEVANT ISSUES.
    WITH REGARDS,
    JITENDRA GORASHIA.

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  • jimmy k

    i think we should not compare them. but if it is necessary then baba ramdev definetly baba ramdev i should say is better n sacrificing. cuase u know how the govt respond against him . regarding his respect and his business they have not leave any stone unturned to blame him. n people can guess how much the govt can harm him. but he did not care abt that

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  • AS

    Well written article Mr. George, with many interesting perspectives which are absolutely right. And true to the behavior of our “I need someone else to do my thinking” mob, your little piece here will be shred to pieces by most of the people who read it. I see 3 reactions already, none positive.

    That said, here’s another perspective. The fundamental issue that both these self proclaimed activitsts are fighting for is not a bad one. True, Anna is a confused and whimsical man who flip flops from one issue to another with somewhat unreasonable demands. However, one cannot deny his charisma and the fact that he can mobilize our society. True, Ramdev (I spare myself the Baba and ji exhortations) is filthy rich and is obviously not good at the yoga he preaches himself and maybe is just looking for political mileage. Irrespective of that, he still has a stranglehold over his followers and he doesnt seem to be causing anyone any harm. It’s good business.

    I’m willing to overlook these negative traits. The average Indian lacks sufficient intellect capital to think on his own and if any person is able to mobilize a large part of a country’s “I need someone else to do my thinking” mob using whatever means or selfish ulterior motives, so be it. As long as one of the consequences of the movement is something positive like dealing with corruption and black money. I can deal with a double talking Ramdev and his hordes. But I cannot deal with a nation of corrupt political leaders.

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    varghese Reply:

    Thanks for the reasonable feedback. my issue is with the blanket cynicism being promoted by self-proclaimed saviors. Anna has become charismatic because he plays the script written by a bunch of people – he has changed his opinion to fit into that scheme. for eg, his views on Modi. an honest, transparent man could not have changed his view on an issue such as this over one week. (view can change, legitimately and honestly, but in this instance that really was not the case)

    Baba Ramdev could not become a media darling, because he did not have friends in Delhi who are friends with our TV stars. And he stayed on his own agenda, campaigned all by himself, stupidly thinking that the crowd at shivirs will become his support base. Silly and simpleton he was, but he was not a schemer.

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  • Amit Purohit

    For me as a common man, both are better than corrupt inept congress who is hell bent on destroying the country and HIndus…….
    Looks now the deeds of Nathuramji Godse, Satwant and Beant Singhji, Prabhakarnji were appropriate and India can only develop on elimination of Original and fake Gandhis

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  • Arun

    Yes, I support article. I doubt, Anna is hagmola for cong for digesting 1000 corors of scams. it is a cong trick of hyponotizing public. Before election they will imprssion that this (whatever final) Lokpal will not check all corruption and India will be more powerfull in next 5yr if voted for Congg. This is trick to brain wash public and wash away all aligations of corruptions and digest money and use it for winning next election.

    It is highly intelligent plitical move by dragon mind politicians.

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  • J S Batra

    I personally feel that unless you are effected by a setuation you cannot react. Has correuption or black Money effected Baba or Anna ? . Ghandhij was thrown out of the train and was humilated later which lead him to rise against the British. The campaign started by both these paper thin tiogers is just a route to enter mainstream politics. If their way of protest is justified, then what is the need of parliamant, opposition, Elections etc. On one side we are proud of our democracy and on the other we contridict it by supporting such campaingns , The blame also goes to our TRP seeking media.

    If we have to remove corruption we have to change our character?. Are we ready to do so.??

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  • ashish

    Why comparison , any day both are better then any congress associated person and spineless media
    simple question
    can you pls write a article why Rahul is better then Sonia / Rajiv or vice versa

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    varghese Reply:

    Well, dozens of such articles are being written. i have written some myself. plan to write again.

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  • SC Aggarwal

    I like Baba Ramdev’s strategy to bring back the unaccounted money lying in foreign banks accounts of Indians into India and use it for productive purposes to boost economy.

    Earlier Babaji launched a campaign to teach yoga and he has proved that this Sanyasi/Sadhu is capable of providing free cure to persons suffering from chronic and multiple diseases through Pranayaams. iBy launching a second campaign he will prove that he is an reputed economist (Artha Shastri). Congratulations to Babaji for doing the job of Finance Minister Mr. Pranab Mukherjee.

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  • Arun

    Yes, i support article, it is very much correct. I would like to add.
    Anna is cong trick. Anna & Anna’s Lokpal bill is like “Hajmola” for digesting 1000 cr of scam money.

    Anna has raised old Lokpal again at the time of multi scams of 1000 crs scams without inter-relating the movement with prevailing scams and well ahead of next UP & Lok Shabha elections which are for the Rahul’s entry for CM and PM. The final draft of Lokpal will be used for hypnotizing the public and winning elections.

    So Anna is going in favour of cong & is being used as Hajmola for digesting scam money .

    However, Ramdev’s movement is 100% for fighting for Indian public and for taking India on top of world and So against cong and related to scams.

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  • Gurmeet singh

    Dear George
    I am not surprised when so called highly educated class as yours dub BABA and ANNA as lacking formal education and their demands as unrealistic.Why dont then the educated class like yours do something in this regard instead of finding faults in them.
    I will give a small example of BABA’S intelligence when he proved to all that cold drinks and junk food are harmful which all of the print media never supports because they give advertisements and that according to so called intelligent class BABA is ignorent and is a cheat.This is only one of the examples.
    Regarding ANNA he is a GOD SEND to India and now exposed the ruling govt and BABUS who do not want this anti corruption bill .I am shocked that instead of pointing fingers to the ruling class you are pointing fingers on HONEST people like ANNA and BABA who atleast are fighting the system which is becoming worst everyday.Its now clear that we all have join hands with these pied pipers (As Kapil sibal gave them new name out the otherday ) and be destroyed rather than be ruled by this corrupt,thick skinned,unresponsive ruling class who is not even one percent and thinks by just winning an election they have licence to do whatever they want to.

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  • bharat

    >>> Both are ambitious, trying to use the name and success they earned in their respective areas of activity to claim a national profile, far beyond their intellect and capabilities.>>>

    Worse is the case of Sonia Gandhi and Rahul Gandhi- Both are ambitious, trying to use the family name to claim a national profile, far beyond their intellect and capabilities in addition to wanting the rule India with no accountability? Waiting on investigative piece on what really is the truth about Sonia and her extended family – the govt gifted trusts and real estate they control, their business dealings, their associates, the corporate sponsored foreign trips etc etc etc.

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    varghese Reply:

    have replied to this early. i will have no complaint to make, if Anna or Baba wins just an assembly constituency – forget about winning a national election. that will settle the debate once and forever.

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  • RG

    While appreciating the efforts made by Anna & Ramdev, now I’m forced to believe that Too much importance has made both of them mad. They are not able to digest the respect he is getting from the people of the country. It should not happen that it bursts like a bubble. Till the end of 5th meeting in end may, both sides have agreed to almost all points except PM to be covered under lokpal or not. Suddenly after the Ramdev’s episode, Anna & his team of self appointed representatives of the people of India start believing that by manuplating with the feels of India, they can Hijack and take the govt on Ransom. The claims they are making in public are “highly exaggerated” and now they comes out with fresh demands and stiff nature. Let him fast again, I don’t think so, he will get much importance this time. There is a nexus between corporate houses, bureaucrats and politicians.

    Without favouring or criticizing any party or individual, lets think about foll :-
    1. The issues raised by Anna or Ramdev are very very important, but would have been better if they were raised by the Opposition party, as it was their duty and obligation to do so.
    2. Anna has put a deadline of 16th Aug, then what will happen after that – More riots, civil commotion ? Women empowerment bill, even after passing Rajya Sabha in March 2010, is still pending.
    3. Anna claims that lokpal bill is as per consititution, but as per the same constitution, only members of Parliament have the authority to draft a bill and make a Law.
    4. Pushing hard on this Lokpal Bill will lose its importance, thus should work step by step. Let the law be made, then later on amendments i.e bringing more people under lokpal bill can be done.
    5. How can an individual or a group of people be allowed to hijack govt., and push them to accept all demands, without showing any flexibility. ? You can only bully so much then… someone will react.
    6.How can 5 self appointed people declared themselves as representatives of people of India. If they are people’s representatives, than that those 544 sitting in Parliament are representing whom?
    7. How one can trust credentials of the so called civil society. If that Father & Son (Bhushans) can drop case against Mayawati for a piece of land, the what stops them to work in favour of govt. against few crores. What will Anna do in that case.
    8. Anna talks about democracy – but is this so called ‘Civil Soceity’ democratically appointed.
    9. Are all decisions/deadlines taken by these so called civil society reps are taken democratically.
    10. Tommorrow if Anna sits on a Hunger strike, asking govt. to bring back Dawood & Chota Rajan within xyz days, is it practical ?

    In my opinion, Start with excluding the President, V.P, PM, LS speaker, Chief Election comm & C.J. of India. All other politicians & officers irrespective of the rank, should come under the purview of Lokpal.

    Also instead of Lokpal Bill, the need of the hour is to introduce “None of the above” option, in the EVMs or Ballot papers. Which I believe is in our constitution (49-O) gives this right to voters, But EC never advertises same. EC should make voters aware of their rights. This way only we can put fear in the politicians. There is no other way, because almost politicians and political parties are corrupt. Today congress is in power so they are facing heat yesterday it was BJP, tomorrow it may be some other party.

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    varghese Reply:

    Yes. Democracy works though the constitution and institutions. the self-proclaimed saviours of democracy refuse to accept this. that is the sorry state.

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  • R K SINHA

    Ramdev is a cunning Liar, try only to spread Falsehood,cola toilet cleaner SWANGI.He seeks permission to hold yoga training camp and stage Dharna in disguise?fraudster.He is using imported,equipments from MNC and in order to promote his products wailing against MNCs.Patanjali Ayurved ltd soap OJAS costs rs 23/,WHY this CHEATING,Huge profits,Fleecing admirers citizens.MERE 7.5 milligrams each of haldi,amla,neem,giloy,amahaldi,aloe vera costs less than a rupee and say 5rs Soap,all herbs are from his Farms and Ramdev sermons Govt. to sell Rs20 Deisel,Rs200 LPG cylinder,Why Ramdev ran away?someone said BHAAG..and Lo! reminds a song He Jumps away in bhagwa and rolls out in a Salwar Suit ,thats why he Slams that Delhi Police tried to Rape.Shameful flaring hatred.He may be Groped by the cop only to be found of A beard hair in CHUNNI?how cops try to rape in full view of public and TV?How Ramdev got salwar suit?of whose?Why not KURTA PYJAMA?GEEDAR cannot be a Leader.OLD ayurveda Pharmacise never marketed as ramdev do,more than 75year old Gurukul Kangri,Dhotapapeswar,Dabur and ramdev company about 15years?His face too got no OOJ as the swami really gets,he ,a weak person inspite of yoga,which cannot help him in a mere 6days fast,HATHYOGI are a far dream of this type of Man .He too not know various asans as GURU of Yoga BKS Iyengar do.A NAGA sadhu can hold him by the phallus,om shivay,bol bum,ramdev ke pass nahi hai dum! Indian public is innocent only to be fleeced by this type of SWANGI.He is only better than Anna as he is connected with all the Trusts,benami properties ,controlled by a nepali,as he got no rightman from INDIA Motherland

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  • Nirmal

    You seems to content with analyzing an issue by looking at the tip of an iceberg. The argument about Anna do not project the proper level of education to challenge an issue as sensitive as this is a gross understatement. How far of an education one require to understand the shamble state of our governance ?
    Secondly where are the so called educated people to lead such a movement ?
    Our generation is far too much bothered about the kind of perks with which we survive, we are embarrassed to even acknowledge the fact that 60 % of our compatriots are struggling to lead a meaningful life ( who actually feels the grunt of our ghost of a government).
    In the light of this do we have the moral right to point figures at Anna Hazare for what he has been doing.
    Regarding the travails of the so called BABA , less said the better. I’m having difficulty to fathom your logic in trying to compare Anna with Baba

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  • pawan

    both ARE NATONALIST ,PATROTIC , BOTH ARE WANTS TO FREE FROM THIS CORRUPT GOVT ,

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  • Fakir Chand

    Dear Varghese,

    Convent educated ‘illliterates’ like you may not agree due to your own biases but Ramdev baba has single handedly improves health of probably 30-40 Crore Indians and a significant number overseas.For the upper-middle class Parasi Lady on Marine Drive in Bombay to a poor Jatt Sikh in Gurdaspur, he has given them health through his televangism of Yoga and pranayam. I would say that he has a following that exceeds the combined total of Sonia, Rahul, DickVijay Singh and MM Singh. So please don’t belittle his ‘education’ or his understanding of ‘representative democracy’. Parliamenteray demorcacy is a sham democracy becuase the leader of the nation is not chosen by the people directly like in Presidential form of Democracy…he/she is chosen by crooks who got into Parliament by buying votes as has been documented even in Wikileaks.

    So India is a sham democracy and will remain till it adopts Presidential Form of Govt. I am sure current Govt. will not agree to that becuase they know that someone like Ramdev is way more popular and commands respect that Congress party can only dream of. Please read this blog about how India has been turned into a family propery through the parliamentary democacy and dynastic rule:

    http://sham-ocracy.blogspot.com/

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  • abhi

    “The Baba is self-made man who became an international figure in just 15 years flat after he left his village.”
    Is this why “our” government sent 5000 goons to attack 50000 defenceless “our” people in the middle of the night on June 5?
    I think that June 5 should be commemorated as “baba Ramdev day” to celebrate his tireless efforts to stop corruption in india. This government labels everyone who wants to stop corruption in india as “communalist”. Good for the communalists. They are the only ones who want an India “free and strong”. Others want it to stay corrupt.

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  • Ashwani

    Ah, this is the reason why a times of india or Indian express is also better than Hindustan times.
    Name is hindustan but when it comes to fight for it, all assinine arm chair pseudo intellectuals like the author can do is make meaning less comparisons.
    You display shocking lack of balls! Arvind kejriwal, kiran bedi bhushans – also look ignorant & lacking education to you? By that definition you would really worship sibbal, manmohan & chidambaram!
    They command more respect because all of them have devoted their lives selflessly to make India a better place.
    Better journalism is expected of HT, seriously.

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  • ashj

    I have been uncomfortable with this Anna movement, but was often shouted down by people who think that if you do not support Anna, it means that you are “For corruption”…
    I do not, under any circumstances, beieve that the end justifies the means.
    We cannot hold a gun to the head of an elected government and ask for our demands to be met.
    No doubt, there is large scale corruption going on, but is this the only way to fight it ?
    We need empowerment of people and this can be achieved only through awareness.
    The person who gives the bribe is as guilty as the person who takes it.

    Having read the draft of the JanLokpal Bill, I have serious reservations of the kind of “state within a state” that we will be creating.

    I also have serious doubts about the success story of Ralegan Siddhi also….what kind of authority does Anna weild in a village which was illiterate, impoverished and looking to a saviour? Granted, his watershed projects have brought greenery, but is it at the cost of individual freedom, an essential right in a functional democracy ?

    Well written Mr Varghese K George ! At a time, when media played a large role in inciting people, we need unbiased articles to clear the cobwebs in our mind. Isn’t that what hournalism is all about ?

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  • Anonymous

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  • sam

    why not write about the relevence of the nato today.the cold war is over! disand the nato OR the UN security council[or expansion,but i prefer the former]!.brics is a loose organistaion to dicuss issues relating to global politics.the west has control over most financial institutions & even in the UN[comes in the way of most UN reforms pressures it regarding no fly zones & sanctions of all types & the likes!].this is where developing nations which matter in the geo polictical scene & likey to play a leading role in the near future meet 7 make plans & concessions.nothing wrong in that.the recent bric meeting considered alternatives to world bank & imf which if consensus is reached by brics will help Asia & a developing world!.some people might ask for reforms at imf world ban which are a waste of time.these organistions at every level,is ‘by westerner’ ‘for the westerner’ & ‘of the westerner’.only UN reform makes sense as all nations of the world are present in this organistion & only playing field must be levelled.reforms at imf wb will mean only concessions for asia & developing world which is not acceptable today.We dont live for concessions & pittances.our right we deserve,give it us.Brics is a capable & relevant relationship till above issues are resolved.It has scope to evolve!

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  • Yeh Hai Hindustan, Meyree Jaan

    The evidence against Narendra Modi can fill the whole library of Congress.

    But he has been overwhelmingly elected thrice by Gujarati Hindu rapists, looters and arsonists.

    And 50% Bhagwad Gita Adherents want him as the next Crime Minister of Hindu stan.

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  • sktrisal@airtelmail.in

    if the reports that he got the arms consignment unloaded in his backyard are correct and that the purpose was to use them in case of a communal strife after the bombings,i feel he has been treated with kid gloves ,he should be retried under tada and treated as any other criminal with such activity

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  • Anonymous

    This article speaks about the pathetic judiciary of India, a country that should stayed as part of Britain for the next 1000 years so that the common man in India would have had some quality of life, understood values of civilized behavior.
    Coming to this issue, Sanjay Dutt appears to be paying a price for illegally owning a fire arm. How many Indians own fire arms – including politicians, their thugs, criminals (appears most of men folks are criminals!). Just because thousands of others undergo this ordeal, it does not mean that a group of people cannot get together to take up this cause and change it a tleast for one individual.
    If it cannot, judiciary has a duty to give a similar punishment to all those who have owned/who own fire arms without a license. It can be one of the Gandhis, all the politicians of Bihar, UP, and any number of states that India has. Then, you are talking about law and its application to all regardless of class and clout. I can think of Britain where this is possible (although Tony Blair is walking absolutely free, in fact, he is the Middle East Peace Envoy!!!), US is mother of India – corrupt, ruthless, and mostly ignorant.

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  • Jamal

    I did not see Sanjay Dutt suffering for 20 years. This man was making millions making movies and enjoying himself. Nobody tortured him. He is a criminal and must go to jail

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  • sumit

    well just because he is a flim star……he cant get away with punishment……he should b punished without any further delay….

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  • the truth

    It is a clear evidence of unequal law in India ! Are all the Indian politicians and many others living in the country like saints !

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  • Manjeet

    How about Carceration for Killing all the Sikhs in Delhi ? Why are those Politicians walking free NO JAIL & you have the Guts to say that Justice is done.Typical Hindu Mentality !!!!!

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  • Jai-Hanuman

    If he is criminal , then half of the Indian population is criminal. Do you have enough space in the jail. You do not have enough toilets in the country, what are you talking. I do not understand, whole country is now bothered about a person, can’t say he is not guilty, who is not a criminal, whereas, actual criminals are having fun in Pak. Does India have guts to grab them. Tell everyone in the world that India is impotent, If you have no guts to punish the actual culprits, please do not make fun of such idiotic acts of SC.

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  • V.Muthuswami

    Yes it is true and it is unequal. This time even with money, he could not buy the judgement he wanted. This is bound to happen with the kind of system we have including criminal justice system. I do not buy the sentimentality behind long personal suffering (maybe in A/C room comforts) and mental torture, et al.(how many crores he made during these years? Was he mentally ill?) because many of the thousands under-trials under go the same torture inside filthy jails in this idiotic country and how many hundreds of fisherman get killed just for fishing in the imaginative international sea boundary line (they are all illetrate and their lives move from day to day) by sundakkai Sri Lanki naval monsters.

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  • Ajay Kumar Sinha

    WE INDIANS HAVE STILL A FEUDAL THINKING SO SUCH TYPE OF THING IS ALWAYS HAPPENED . WE ARE NOT DEMOCRAT IN TRUE SENSE. WE ARE CARRYING A LEGACY OF FEUDAL SYSTEM

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  • APJain

    Agreed the judicial process super slow, but the delay of 20 years cannot be attributed to the SC alone. Now since the we all know that dutt was guilty of the crime, he could have as well admitted to crime 20 years back. But he didn’t, so complaining about 20 years delay is useless.

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