can you comment on the religious cleric from Saudi (who sets the religious curriculum for schools) who says islam permits slavery..

do you agree with him ?

until then, muslim soldiers should not be counted to standup and fight for india (against pakistan especially..)

the sooner this issue is cleared the better.

Can any of those deobandi leaders be approached through emails ?

Noam Chosky’s favourite time/place/rule(r) is the anarchist regime of Barcelona 1930-32 during the spanish Civil war. He has given glowing tributes about that.. No wonder his student follows him.

Somewhere in this blog he has implied India need not lkeep an eye on Islamic terrorists; that is Pakistan’s job (and they are doing a good job at it - majority Muslim country keeping a good eye on the Muslim terrorists; however a majority Hindu country does not follow in the same footseps to keep track of Hindu terrorists)…Figute it out.. Left plus Islamism = big zero

Nevertheless, I have to admire your commitment to the cause, that you go on recommending your education to everyone, despite what it has done to you.

Muslim loyalty to the country will be suspect as long as these types of leaders and these types of incidents happen. Deobandi school should issue Fatwa separating them from these.

Muslims have to “dig out” themselves - their insistence to be separate (burqua, hijab, skullcap, beard, madrasa, singing etc ) is further marginalizing them. Their fight always seems to be on yesterday’s stuff and not for tomorrow’s aspirations.

A word of friendly advice: you know, it does not hurt to read and know a bit about things that one is talking of and about. At least once in a while. Its not a good idea to openly brag about your ignorance……Not that I resent it too much. I have to admit that it does provide me with an opportunity to have a good laugh!

Apparently, the KSA ambassador left a meeting attended by the President etc, because Ram Jethmalini mentioned that the militant Wahabism is destroying the good (?) name of Islam and spreading violence.

I also read about this new multi-billion dollar university in KSA, where students from other countries are admitted with full tuition/boarding plus stipend paid — all to induce change from outside in.

Now to this unholy alliance between Islamists and Leftists. Isnt it interesting that the “Godless” leftists and “Godful” Islamists are in ying-yang mode now. The chief (educated) mullah Sayyed Qutb accepted the Marxian version of stages of history, adding that an eternal Islamic era will take over after the fall of communism and capitalism.

George Gallaway, the leftist British MP/apologist for dicattors has said “progressive” movement and Muslims have same dreams.

Noan Chomsky did not have any problem in Hasran Nasrullah procuring weapons (I neither; I will take Nasrullah any time compared to Saudis).

Durng the cold war Islamists favored godless Soviet Union to a religious USA.

Olivier Beasancenot, a French leftist, sees Islamists as the new “slaves” of capitalism and it is natural “they should unite with the working class to destroy the capitalistic system”.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

To answer your question about my seriousness, yes I was not. But to assume that similar arguments will not be made won’t be correct.
But I am serious that some political theories do consider money/property to be sin, violence and for them large part of humanity is in the grip of violence perpetrated by money.

Why does not the American people rise up in revolt and throw out this corrupt, venal, exploitative, failed capitalist mockery of a democracy that governs them

Answer might be around these lines: :
Very Good product but bad marketing oooops, (marketing was never in the picture.) The assumption was that their labor-Production formulation will ensure all produced all sold, Bingo. ( After all the buyers had the liberty to choose any product as long as it were X). Unfortunately the capital mafia by then had conspired to offer Y and Z options also. (Comparatively we had mandated The Best Product only) To complicate the matter further they unleashed a lethal propaganda using multiple channels viz, education, entertainment, sports, media; with the objective of distorting, target segment’s decision making ability. This was defined by them as Marketing. While all this was done in the name of promoting freedom and choice, the real agenda was dumbing them down to the level where they could not differentiate between their saviors and their class enemies, while diverting their attention away from centuries old oppression.

Situation has become so bad that the auto unions of the big 3 (GM, Ford, chrysler, till recently the most potent symbols of centuries old oppression) have been reduced to lobbying to save “their” companies, and offering to sacrifice all the gains they had wrested through decades of their struggle. Decades-long effort to engineer a social revolution has turned on its head where management is making demands from the unions. (Empowerment?)

In addition, Poor oppressed americans had no opportunity to see the superior quality of life in Just societies, such as North korea, Cuba etc because of the capitalist controlled media. People who have been subjected to such an onslaught on their capability to think cannot be expected to rise against anything, leave aside an exploiting capitalist democracy.

Reality is more likely to be these: Differences between the language spoken by communist (or socialist, am too thick to spot the diff.) ideologues and their target population. Remember the whole science of social revolution was developed by people who had rarely seen a factory.

Alternatively, it could be because the society as a whole has grown out of its teens , remember: “Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty Is proof of want of head.” In some it does take longer

Leaving all that aside have you ever thought about the reasons behind creation of the leftist ideology? My thinking is this, the first ideologues were mighty impressed with the potential of industrial manufacturing once the labor-production equation was set. All will be equal. While our ideologues were busy designing standardizing our dreams, driven by the Belief that they had found answer to every human need in the Labor-Production framework, human creativity was pushing ahead to newer frontiers in every field creating new needs and finding newer ways of meeting the existing ones. Diversity of human intellect, imagination and efforts was too complex for our labour-production modellers. Development of the leftist ideology: From each according to his capability to each according to his need was a pathetic attempt to make a world they could understand instead of trying to understand the world as it could be. Unsurprising it failed. For the current generation of leftists to now concoct newer labels for the expired medicine adding some fizz here and some zing there is merely an indication of their intellectual bankruptcy and their fanaticism. Although I do have a feeling that the new age proponents of those discredited theories have chosen this path after assuring themselves that they won’t have to suffer the consequences as these ideologies can’t take center stage in their life times. While that being so what could be better than the opportunity to lecture the whole world on their lack of morality, make money on the side and earn a name for themselves all the while using the very tools which would have been out of everyone’s reach (except the party gods) had they succeeded in the first place.
After slaughtering millions of lives and condemning billions to perpetual misery without hope in the name of experiments in social science, to now claim that a Mao or a Stalin did not really represent us, is sickening.

To be outraged by US while prancing around with a constitution which considers Violence, (not withstanding its absence in one or more of the peppier versions) not only legitimate but necessary for the revolution is beyond disgust. No amount of twisting and falsifying the facts can wash away their bloodied hands.