The Madanis of Deoband and Modi



This could hardly have escaped national attention: Have Muslims made their peace with Narendra Modi, Gujarat’s demagogic chief minister? It is a tough question, really. Let’s attempt an answer.

We must taper our search down to a few helpful cues: servitude, subjugation, co-option, compromise or happy reconciliation? A more neutral question to ask would be, how is Modi managing minorities?

Mahmood Madni, the youngest among the illustrious Madni clan of Deobandi clerics, weighed in with apparently mellowed comments on the issue in a recent televised interview.

He largely agreed on three or four points: that Modi has successfully secured Muslim votes; that Muslims have faced far greater injustices in so-called “secular” spaces outside Modi’s sphere of influence; and that much has changed, after all.

He then tempered this with a confusing statement: “There is no development without justice…and there has been no justice for Muslims in Gujarat.”

In politics, people generally tend to make sense of an evolving situation by listening in to the general political discourse, which is of some value, but never sufficient in explaining things fully.

My view is that an effective answer – to whether Muslims have made peace with Modi – can’t be possible without a little help from political theory, which alone can offer a useful framework to understand Modi’s public administration vis-à-vis Muslims. Relying on Madni alone would be to fall one sandwich short of a picnic.

It’s not inconceivable that Modi’s politics is largely monolithic, a spell of efficient, unilateral politics in which the power equation is clearly defined in terms of his political vision. It is an established political theory that large, monolithic political cultures offer little space for group-differentiated and diverse political activity or discourse, eventually leading to compliance and co-option of dissidents.

For example, Hindus during Aurangzeb’s reign fully complied with “jizya”, a discriminatory tax Islamic rulers levied on non-Muslims. To that extent, Hindus made peace with the Mughal emperor.

This could partly explain Modi as an electoral choice for Muslims. Once the monolithic structures weaken, however, conflicting positions start playing out again. Hindu-Muslim conflicts and indeed Hindu and Islamic revivalism, absent in much of the early Mughal rule, began to rise with the advent of the British, who were looked upon as a religiously neutral force.

Madni could not have been unaware of Gujarat’s ground realities. Historically, the Deobandi ulama have been immensely “creative” – to borrow Francis Robinson’s description – in taking political positions, whether in opposing the creation of Pakistan, or backing Gandhi instead of Jinnah or getting the British to legislate the Shariat Act in 1937.

A cleric with sharp political sensors, Madni has often sought to align his community-centric outlook with larger goals of common citizenship, in line with Deoband’s historical “creativity”. He also has to assert himself over his older rival, uncle Arshad Madni. Privately, he held that the Ayodhya verdict to split the ownership of the disputed land be accepted. Publicly, he advocated an appeal in the Supreme Court. Both Madnis had however united to oust Deoband’s Gujarati rector Maulana Vastanvi, after he took a less than extreme position on Modi.

During the long course of my reporting on Muslim politics, I have followed Madni to Gujarat. His Rajya Sabha term has ended, and Gujarat is his best bet if he were ever to contest an election because of his strong following among its Sunni Muslims. A harsh assessment of Modi may make him fall at the first hurdle.

Yet, Madni could be clever by half. He may well have to choose between Gujarat and Deoband, a conservative establishment whose inner quarters cannot accept Modi. He can’t make peace with both.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_URSXATBEMZ7HUAB3OH36PLYWDM Ashok

    Each election produces a hero or a heroine. Today it is Akhilesh Yadav, yesterday it was Mamata Banerjee. After the counting of votes and the swearing in, the real work of governance starts, and that is where Didi is letting down the people of Bengal who gave her such a magnificent mandate.

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  • Anonymous

    Funny now Sujatha is quoting twitterati’s displeasure with Mamata. When the twitterati overwhelmingly appreciate Modi, Sujatha and co. dismiss them with disdain. Selective memory?

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7XVK6BRUJHTBJCDMA6YSIFBUBE Suresh BV Bharadwaj

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rajesh-Kumar/100002495478767 Rajesh Kumar

    I don’t take this columnist seriously. He is compromised. I wonder if he supports secularism in Pakistan and Bangladesh?

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @Rajesh, this worm is a “ghatiyya Taqqiyya” #1. This space about 18 months ago would be choc-o-block with others of his level spewing venom against Hindus (quoting discarded manu’s smirti) and eulogizing with utter lies the “religion of peace”. Mercifully, the “cowardly” Hindus have stepped in and now we have those Zakir Naik “inspired” spin-masters beat a hasty retreat when slapped with translations from the verses and from Bukhari’s collection. Now even the fig-leaf of “context” has been blown away conclusively.
    As Hindu’s had to pay Jizyia during the brutal misrule of the Slave dynasty scoundrels and later from Aurangzeb’s time, there is a very important narrative that this Taqqiyya has skillfully masked, there were huge mass conversions taking place, not just because of the punitive taxation on Hindus, but because Hindus themselves could legally absolve repayment to any person, just on becoming a Muslim and leveling blasphemy charges and the creditor would be lucky to save his skin by “honouring himself by accepting Islam”.
    The only reprieve that Indians got was during the 52 years of Akbar, 22 years of Jahangir and 32 years of Shah Jahan, once Aurangzeb ascended the throne, it was “open season” on Hindus once again.
    So, now that these Indian converts are able to draw benefits from Modi’s formula of 35% of revenue for govt expenditure and 65% for development, the economical gains accrued renders the Indian converts favourably disposed to Modi. The Kashmir situation is so similiar, the “insurgey” had died a natural death by 2008, it was revived by paying “stone throwers” with counterfiet indian currency routed through Nepal.Once the money trail dies out, most people want to live in peace, inspite of the invocations of violence to kuffurs.

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    Mail Me Reply:

    Excellent observation, Sumit.

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    HINDU SAMURAI Reply:

    well said dadabhai! well said! zia is a very p00r quality taqqiya master!! :)

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    shenoybv Reply:

    V.S. Naipaul, himself a Brahmin whose ancestors had settled abroad centuries ago, gained international celebrity status when he wrote the book, Wounded Civilisation portraying “Hindu India” as a stupid, idiotic country ruled by his own jatwalas.
    While he gained name and fame from his literary achievements, his jatwalas in India became furious and denounced him as a third rate writer because he honestly condemned Brahmins as topclass frauds. This made the Brahmin in Naipaul to mellow and realise as he grew old that if he continued jabbing at his jatwalas the “Jews of India” would prevail over Jewish-controlled Nobel Foundation to deny him the Nobel prize. The Brahmin in Naipaul prevailed and he started praising the Brahmins. By then it was too late. Naipaul got the award after he started praising Brahmins. The Brahmin in him killed the genius in him.
    Beef-eating Brahmin: We are reproducing a passage from his book, Wounded Civilisation, in which he exposed the Brahmin hypocrisy and dwelt on the strong anti-Brahmin fury prevailing in India. Naipaul was impressed with the novel of a fellow Karnataka Brahmin writer who too in his younger days married a Christian girl, ate beef, sang Lohia lullabies and the Brahmin media boosted him sky-high and hailed him as “socialist savant”.
    Topclass frauds: Soon the Brahmin in him prevailed and turned him into a “Socialist Brahmin” who is more dangerous than a “Sacred Brahmin”. (Read our book, Socialist Brahmin vs. Sacred Brahmin,
    His Kannada book, Samskara, Naipaul says, very beautifully portrays the “Brahminic barbarity” and the Brahmins as topclass frauds.
    The problem with the Brahmin is very serious. No Brahmin has so far been able to get over this dotage — the victim of his own sick society.
    During his younger days the Brahmin is fired by the youthful idealism and he turns a marxist, naxalite, maoist, anarchist, atheist and what not. That is how M.N. Roy, the Bengali Brahmin, became founder of the Indian Communist Party and advocated wholesale Hindu conversion to Islam to liberate India from Brahminism
    S.A. Dange, Chairman of the Communist Party, as he grew old came to the conclusion that “all the wisdom of Karl Marx came from the Vedanta”, for which he was expelled from the party itself. The Marathi Brahmin died a vedantist.
    Look at the mischievous Justice V.R. Krishna Iyer who fell in love with Dalits and successfully duped both Dalits and Muslims but continued to mouth socialist slogans.
    The “famous” E.M.S. Namboodiripad died as an orthodox marxist Brahmin (: Cheated Dalits, BCs, Muslims & destroyed Kerala”).
    Jawaharlal Nehru, the fire-eating socialist, out of love for his Kashmiri Brahmins, fought a war with Pakistan for the sake of his jatwalas and permanently put the Himalayan state in thrishanku swarga —despite the UN verdict that Kashmir is a “disputed territory”.
    Caste above the country: We have not came across one Brahmin who has been honest with his conscience because the sanskara does not permit him to go against his jati. This sanskara is hanging right over his head like a dagger and throughout he lives with this fear. That is why to him his caste is greater than the country. Show us one Brahmin who has gone against the sanskara. This
    is the tragic story of a Brahmin which Naipaul relates here

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    Aamer Saeed Reply:

    MY GOD
    what the hell is wrong with you man.
    Relax the F&^k up.

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  • Anonymous

    How cleverly Zia has skipped the attacks on Hindus in Bangladesh and attacks on Christian in Pakistan?

    Zia is a closet Islamofascist.

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  • Vinay Dey

    What about Humayun or Akbar.Dirty mind only sees dirty things.Get off your horse and see light.Take India as a nation and not Hindutva as your bapauti.

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  • Anonymous

    I seldom read this columnist. After a long while, I thought give him another chance. My mistake.

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  • kanishka

    Secularism” , “Minority Grievances”, “Minority
    identity” are all issues artificially manufactured by the Congress Party
    and the columnists of H!ndustan T|mes like another Zia Ul Haq.!

    Zia you have communal mind with no morals. You are trying to equate Modi with Aurangzeb. Your Muslim mind would not read the real history what Aurangezeb did to his Hindu subjects and his brothers. He was not an elected head of the state. Period. You are not worried about corruption and misgovernance and law and order situation in Muslim friendly states like UP, Delhi, Assam, Haryana, Andhra and…many other places. You are more worried about change of heart of Madni.

    The real issues that we face are
    CORRUPTION, NO Governance and NO Development !! We must focus on these
    issues during the 2014 elections

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  • josh

    Agreed – it’s muslim columnists like these that perpetuate the muslim’s backwardness.

    The world has accepted Modi’s 2002 Gujarat episode, like Congress’s 1980s Sikh episode, like Muslim’s Partition episode, like the British and Mughal episodes as manifestations of their time and situation and therefore without specific blame and further retribution.

    However, the world is concerned about current behaviour, in India’s case, of behaviour of Pakistan and Muslims in general and the instability and chaos extremists in these communities create.

    In terms of specifics, Modi offers rule of law, equality under that law, and freedom for all pusuits, whether economic or religious. In contrast Congress and its cronies in UPA offers only rape, pillage and murder, of both individuals and of the future of the Indian population collectively.

    There’s always a rejoinder as to what BJP did under its release. Alas, had there been just one more term and India would have been a thriving, vibrant society. In it’s all too short tenure, it laid the foundation for economic resurgence, global political realignment, and the centre stage it now enjoys. Of course, UPA1 and 2 have been doing their best to undo all that: overseeing a chaotic demographic realignment, creating an amoral political and social structure, generating series of scandals that has created a lawless society sees rapes as a lesire activity, minorities that brazenly destroy property when shown a mirror, graft and murder from unrepentant politicians.

    It’s not too late. Modi and BJP needs to be given a chance for 5 years to show he is Ashoka incarnate. India is a democracy and the Congress/Gandhi 60-year experiment must be accepted for the failure it is. Therein lies salvation for this great civilisation, my dear.

    Jai Hind, Jai Bharat.

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  • Sahid Bhagat Singh fan

    This writer, Bur ka du tt, Sun deep Ti wary are kon grass p aid agent to mis inform the general public of India. Just clic k on the name of the writer to see his continuous biased stand. I tried to report them but there is no office for media journalist regulation or registration in India.

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  • Shah

    How stupid? How come Jaziya was discriminatory? Don’t u pay taxes to Indian government? Don’t Muslims pay Zakat tax every year? Muslims of India pay both Income tax as well as Zakat tax today and no one ever complained about it. So please get ur facts right before writing such non sense distorted history. Stop aiding Modi the killer.

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @Shah one could easily counter you: how fanatically sanctimonious? Today any Muslim convert may or may not pay zakat, hence we dont hear any complaints; sadly, that option was denied to Hindus, they had to pay up, at the cost of confiscation of property or assets, depending upon each case as was determined by the Sultan’s revenue collector.
    Did you know that each of the Slave dynasty scoundrels, right upto Akbar had to pay 1/5th of all tax collected as the “Apostle’s share” to the Khalifate, first at Baghdad and later to the Ottomans.. Emperor Akbar terminated this huge outflow of revenue and rejected Islam, setting up his own religion named “Din-e-Illahi”.
    It was from these records obtained from the Khalifate that Queen Victoria sent the famous letter to Emperor Akbar, which recorded that India generated 23% of the World’s GDP. Sadly, Shah Jahan restarted paying the “Apostle’s share” to the Ottoman Khalifate, and financial bleeding of India restarted.
    Secondly, did you even know that 760 odd Muslims lost their lives, along with 350 odd Hindus in the post-Godhra riots.It is now accepted “normal” to brand that as “Modi’s genocide”, but your slective outrage is disgusting, In the Bhagalpur riots over 2000 Muslims died, when Lallo Prasad Yadav was the RJD supremo, but no one accused him of “genocide”. That is just how fair-minded you are. I can go on and on, but suffice it to say, you are not concerned about law and order and loss of any life, because you just want a trip NM who has been able to convince the most determined skeptics , but not the Jihadi and Pseudo-secular elements, that good governance enhances the quality of life of all, irrespective of one’s religion.

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    Satyavarta Reply:

    Your so long write up did not answer Shah’s short question. Are not Indian muslims paying tax to Indian government and they not complain while paying this, because they know it is required to run the government which in turn will take care of our security, education and lot of administrative needs. Did not the muslim citizens of Nepal pay tax to the lone Hindu state of nepal till few years back? Why are you reducing the number of muslims killed in Gujarat genocide of 2002? And Bhagalpur anti muslim riots happened in 1989 when Congress was ruling at centre as well as Bihar. Please correct your info.

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @Satyavarta, your mindset is devoid of “satya”. No Muslim is “forced/coerced” to pay Zakat, at the cost of confiscation of property. As mentioned by me above, it was optional, and there has never been in Independent India any government agency that collects Zakat.
    So much for your spin, attempting to cast away the punitive burden Hindus had to bear for nearly 7 centuries the brutality of Muslim invaders. That is the the second most important reason we have so many converts who are yet brain-numb to consider themselves as Pseudo-Arabs living in our midst.
    Many thanks for correcting my mis-information, that makes our beloved late Rajiv Gandhi overseeing not one but two mass-killings and no one ever thought it fit to term him a “mass-murderer”. Your selective vision of ’satya’ is impressive!

  • Deep

    They call you Muslim? Perhaps a nincompoop may be more appropriate.

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  • Deep

    They call you Muslim? Perhaps a nincompoop may be more appropriate.

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  • Prasanth

    This snake called Zia Haq is a classic example of a deceiving islamist- aka a Taqqiya (In Islam it is LEGAL to to lie to spread the word of Alla- such lies are sanctioned as Taqiya). Few months back this Zia said “Popular Front of India” – is a leftist organisation!!! They are in fact a SIMI offshoot based in Kerala. They are notorious for arm chopping of Prof. Joseph in kerala and forcing girls to wear burqas etc. But they know SIMi was banned and now they are calling themselves a left leaning organisation- based on their anti Americanism !! This Zia is providing them propaganda through his islamist column. Another day he said wearing burqa ‘protects’ women!!! This anti national, islamist, sexist bigot should be exposed thoroughly!

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  • Anonymous

    Zia has cleverly skipped the Hyderabad blast, killing of hindus in BD and attacks on christians in Pak.

    What does this tell about Zia?

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    abu ahmed Reply:

    In the next 5 years, it will be proved in the courts of law that some Hindu outfit is responsible for the Hyderabad blast. Till that time, Muslims would have to suffer physical torture, mental harassment from the Hindus. This is a pattern set in motion for almost all blasts occurring in the country.

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    josh Reply:

    yes – if congress stays in power. you will get equality and truth through a BJP administration.

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    HINDU SAMURAI Reply:

    ya, so sad, India is very bad, so u better p h u c k off to pakistan, bangladesh, Kashmir valley, North Kerala, or the rest of the pislamic world..where minorities like Hindus., sikhs, Xians, jews,Parsees, buddhists etc were showered with so much love by puslims that all of them non_muslims have almost become extinct in the pislamic world, especially pakistan, afghanistan, Iran, bangladesh from Morocco to Egypt, from Bosnia to Turkey, from Uzbekistan to Xinjiang(China), from Mali to Tanzania, from Indonesia to brunei to SOuth Phillipines to North Nigeria to North Kenya, and Somalia to Mauritania, from Libya to Burkina Faso, from Sudan to Algeria, from Chechnya to Kosovo to Azarbaijaan, from Sierra Leone to Chad, from Palestine to Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Arabian Peninsula, Kashmir valley, North Kerala, parts of West Bengal, Parts of Western UP, parts of Assam-dhubri district etc…..u see pislam is a religion of piece oops PEACE!!! k2e!!! bhaag yahaan se m a d a r c h 0 d!!!!k2@!!!!

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    abu ahmed Reply:

    Obviously you belong to a mental asylum; try throwing out 35 crore muslim from India now, starting from your father.

    abu ahmed ke abba Reply:

    on yeah!! just wait till we get rid of the SICKULAR HINDU TRAITOR POLITICAL PARTIES in 2014, and then we will see how ur @$$ burns on the hot plate u m 0 d e r p h u c k e r!!!

    abu ahmed ke abba Reply:

    u think Muslims are 35 crore in India??? hahahahaha, u know what will happen to u guys if we 100 crore hindus decide to do to u 16-17 crore muslims the same thing that u k2@s did to the Hindus,sikhs,buddhists of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, North Kerala, Kashmir valley etc??? u wanna see what it feels like if Gujarat’s medicine is administered to u k2@s on a ALL-INDIA scale u k2@ coward descendant of forcibly converted Coward Hindu ancestors????

    HINDU SAMURAI Reply:

    tu aur tera P H U C K B A R U D D I N Chutaisi! dono jaoge arabian sea me bhutnike agar hum hindu apni aukaat pe aagaye to!!! samjhe bhadwe!!??? bhaag yahaan se jhaantudddin!!! jaaa!!! jaake apni jhaanten nochke hazratbaaaaaaaaaaaaaL shrine me rakhwa de jahaan tere P00Pet MoHMAD ki Jhaanton ko rakh ke k2e uski IBAADAT karte hain, M A D A R C H 0 D!!!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Why only 35 crores..why not 135 crores? You pakistan has only 18 crores muslims…

    Abhi Reply:

    Zia should tell his friends in Bangladesh that attacks on HIndu temples in that country show the magnanimity of Islam and have repercussions in India.

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    Faulitics Reply:

    Maybe he sympathizes with them or atleast feels that it is “justified”.

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  • HINDU SAMURAI

    ============================================================——DEATH TO ALL PISLAM & K2@s AND ALL ANTI-MODI SICKULARS——-
    ——————————CURSE BY HINDU SAMURAI——————————–
    HERE’s WHY!!!
    DEATH TO all u k2@s from this side of the gr8 divide,
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    1. For all the 200 million hindus/sikhs/buddhists/jains(including brutal torture and killings of SIKH GURUS/their young SONS(ex: Guru Arjun Dev, Guru Tegh Bahadur, Guru Gobind Singh and his young sons) and R A P E and forcibly married/Killed millions of Hindu women/girls) etc non_muslims killed and many more forcibly converted(including ur coward Hindu ancestors) , for all the Lakhs of Temples, Gurudwaras, Buddhist Monasteries destroyed (including the temples of Kashi, Somnath, Ayodhya, Mathura and buddhist monasteries/universities at TAKSHSHILA AND NALANDA by Pislam before British arrived.
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    2. For all the 70,000 hindus killed, 100,000 forcibly converted, 20,000 Malayalee Hindu women R a p e d and 100,000 Malayalee Hindus made homeless by k2@s in North Kerala(during Moplah rebellion in 1921).
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    3. For all the 7000 Hindus killed in CALCUTTA within 1st 3 days of the Direct Action day started in Calcutta by K2@s on the call of JINNAH, and for all the 100,000 Hindus killed, 70,000 forcibly converted, and 15,000 Hindu women

    r a p e d in NOAKHALI district of EAST BENGAL within a week of anti-hindu genocide done in 1946 by K2@s of Rural East Bengal.
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    4. For the 5-10 million non-muslims killed, 2 million forcibly converted by k2@s in sindh, balochistan, khyber, West Punjab, east bengal during Partition in1947. (Ethnic Cleansing of millions of Hindus and Sikhs, R A P E OF around 100,000 HINDU/SIKH Women, and mass-suicide of 10-20,000 HINDU/SIKH WOMEN to escape k2@ mobs in WEST PUNJAB has been compared to the NAZI HOLOCAUST of JEWS by many Scholars).
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    5. For all the 150,000 hindus killed in East Bengal(East Pakistan) by u k2@s in 1950 anti-hindu pogrom all across east pakistan, and for 1.5 million Hindus driven out to INDIA as refugees from East Bengal in the same year.
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    6. For all the 200,000 Indian soldiers killed by k2@ jawans of Pakistan army during the 4 wars with Pakistan. (Each war started by Pakistan’s unprovoked aggression).
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    7. For all the 2 million hindus killed, 1 million forcibly converted, 200,000 hindu women r a p e d, and 2.4 million Hindu refugees sent to India by k2@s during Bangladesh war in East Bengal, in 1971. (COMPARED TO THE NAZI HOLOCAUST OF JEWS BY MANY SCHOLARS).
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    8. For all the 500,000 kashmiri hindus made refugees in their own country, 6000 of them killed after brutal torture in Kashmir valley by u k2@s in 1989. The Indian army Went to Kashmir valley only after the ethnic-cleansing of Kashmiri Hindus had been completed by Your K2@ brothers.
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    9. For all the 50,000 Hindus killed, 100,000 driven to India, by k2@s, from Bangladesh in 1993-1994 when Begum Khaleda Zia’s govt came to power in Dhaka.
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    10. For the 100,000 Indian soldiers killed in Kashmir valley since 1989(Indian army entered kashmir valley after the ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Hindus had been completed successfully by u k2@s) by k2@ terrorists.
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    11. For all the 150,000 innocent Indians(98% of them non_muslims) killed by u k2@ terrorists all over India in bomb blasts, fidayeen attacks, mass-shootings, grenade attacks, etc since 1989.
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    12. For all the thousands of hindus killed inside India by u k2@s in Riots since Independence (including the riots which u k2@s did all across India to mourn the demolition of a mosque built by a Uzbek moghul invader Babur after he destroyed the Ram temple in Ayodhya 600 years ago).
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    13. For all the mayhem u caused inside India especially downtown mumbai,-desecration of amar jawan jyoti, molestation of police women and women, burning of shops, media vans, etc, and In downtown Lucknow-demolition of Gautam Buddha statues in broad daylight inside Lucknow’s parks(unreported by sickular media), molestation of hindu women on roads in broad daylight, burning of police vehicles and shops etc, just to protest against s0-called injustice to burma’s rohingya muslims (those started when rohingya muslim illegal immigrants(from Chittagong district of Bangladesh) settled in Arakan province of Burma, gang r a p e d and killed 2 innocent buddhist NUNS).
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    14. For all the innocent Hindus killed in western Uttar Pradesh for 6 months in anti-hindu riots in muslim majority areas of Western UP, which u k2@s started
    as soon as sickular SP govt came to power in UP (unreported by sickular media).
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    15. For all the innocent 500 hindus killed in Gujarat(ignored by our sickular media) in 2002 by u k2@s(including the 70 innocent Hindus burnt alive inside the coaches of Sabarmati express by u k2@s, which started the riots).
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    16. For the 50-60 innocent Hindu villagers killed, 100 missing, 50 hindu women r a p e d, and 1000 Hindu families made homeless after their houses were burnt down by u k2@s, all under the watch of the mute west bengal police of Mamata Begum, in 2 days of anti-hindu violence in NALIAKHALI (not noakhali of bangladesh) area of SOUTH 24 PARGANAS DISTRICT, WEST BENGAL, in February 2013, again unreported by Sickular media.
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    17. For all the 250 hindus killed till now all over Bangladesh by YOUR(K2@s) JAMAAT-E-ISLAMI PARTY G00NS since last few weeks, during all the protests by u k2@s against the sentencing of JAMAAT war criminals of 1971 anti-hindu genocide of Bangladesh war of Independence.
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    18. For all the Hindus who converted to Pislam in order to escape from the horrific HINDU CASTE SYSTEM injustices, only to find themselves brutally subjected to the similarly horrific Pislamic Caste system of ASHRAF(High caste muslims-Sheikh, Saiyyad, Mughal, Pathan, Maalik, Mirza etc), ALJAF(Lower caste muslims) and ARZAL(so-called Untouchable muslims), SHIA-SUNNI, BARELVI/HANAFI, WAHABBI/DEOBANDI, SUFI, AHMEDIYA, ORIGINAL ARAB MUSLIM and COVERTED MUSLIM divide, and etc etc.
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    ….and the list
    goes on and on and on, and one day “Our Curse, tears, cries, screams for
    justice” (which we haven’t got till now, thanks to Sickular parties of
    India) will wipe u out of India once and for all.
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    Yeah, U K2@s and
    SICKULARS can TAKE UR DEMANDs FOR JUSTICE for 600 PUSLIMS KILLED IN GUJARAT TO GOD HIMSELF!! WE DO NOT CARE,
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    WE WON’T CARE!! DO U HEAR!!!???

    NOT UNTIL WE NON_MUSLIMS RECEIVE JUSTICE for ALL THE $ H I T

    U K2@s HAVE DONE TO US NON_MUSLIMS listed in this post.

    GET THAT IN YOUR THICKTAQQIYA-ridden/SICKULAR SKULLS( if u got any Brains inside it of course).
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    DEATH TO PISLAM,
    DEATH TO ALL K2@s, DEATH TO PUSLIMS, DEATH TO SICKULARS and LET US ALL IGNORE
    rarer-than-platinum truly secular muslims, because they did not matter in the
    past, they do not matter in the present , and they won’t matter ever in the
    future too.
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    DEATH TO PISLAM,
    DEATH TO ALL K2@s, DEATH TO PUSLIMS,..for all the atrocities that they have done to SOuth Asia and its non_muslims(all in the name of ALLAH), and DEATH to
    their Quran/Hadith-the books which contain nothing but utter HATRED and
    VIOLENCE against everything Unislamic(not under the rule of P00Pet Mohmad and his pislam) under he sun.
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    and DEATH TO ALL
    THE SICKULARS INCLUDING KHANGRESS WHO ALLOWED U K2@s TO STAY ON IN INDIA EVEN
    AFTER 95 % oF U K2@s(living in Hindu majority areas of undivided India) VOTED IN FAVOUR OF PAKISTAN’s CREATION, and DEATH to ur
    K2@ bros across the border who wiped out Non_muslims from all k2@ majority areas of South Asia, while u k2@s continue to increase your population In India using the method of overbreeding like R A T S and Illegal infiltration form Bangladesh(through west bengal border and NE states borders) and illegal infiltration from Pakistan(through Rajasthan border);;;;
    with the final goal of achieving GAZWA-E-HIND(Conquest of India by Pislam)=making INDIA DAR-UL-ISLAM=abode of Islam (as per the sickular instructions of Your SICKULAR FASCIST BOOKS QURAN/HADITH.).
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    DEATH TO U k2@s!!!
    for being a K2@!! and for being the follower of a PEDOPHILE P00Pet of Arabia,

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    who married and r a p e d a 9 yr old girl-child, when he was 55,
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    who married his own daughter-in-law after getting her divorced from his own adopted son,
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    who killed the whole families(brothers, uncle, father, husband etc) of 2 young jewish girls(one was 17 yrs old, another below 25) with his own hands,

    r a p e d those girls that very night, and forcibly married them a few days later, when he was more than 55 years old,
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    a debauched P00Pet who allowed u k2@s to marry only 4 women at a time, and himself married more than 10 women,
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    a P00Pet who called
    all Non_muslim, Non-Xian, Non-Jew people as IDOLATORS, and yet asked u to Keep
    a P U $ $ Y(VA GI NA) shaped BlackStone(Aswad) inside PI$LAM’s MOST HOLY
    MOSQUE, the MASJID-AL-HARAM in Kaaba, MECCA, and asked you to Ki$$ it, and
    asked u to do NAMAAZ facing that Blackstone containing Mosque, no matter
    wherever on the planet u might be, because he told u that stone was a gift from ALLAH. (as if all other stones on the planet are gifts from SATAN??? hahahaha LOL)
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    PS=[Muslims will become majority in India by 2035-2040, and then Non_muslims, where will YOU run?? nepal or bhutan?

    All Sickular Non_muslims keep voting for Sickular parties on issues of Jaat-paat, Biradari, CASTE, economy, Food, Inflation, Infrastructure, Language, Roads, Regionalism, corruption, poverty, ILLITERACY,
    GEnder discrimination,
    and other such very important issues which all sickular parties have been miserably unable to solve for the last 63 years, yeah, keep voting like that and find out, that in 2040, where U WILL RUN TO, as REFUGEES, NEPAL or BHUTAN???

    I HOPE U WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE before the sand of time runs out of your SICKULAR HANDS]
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    NARENDRA MODI ZINDABAAD THE, HAIN AUR RAHENGE!!
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    NARENDRA MODI PM BANKE RAHENGE AUR HUM HINDU UNKO PM BANAKE RAHENGE!!

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    Tum sab k2e ek kaam karo! apni apni jhaanten nochke hazratbaaaaal masjid/dargah (srinagar, Kashmir valley) me jaake rakh aao, jahaan tum P00Pet MohMAD KI JHAANTON ki Ibaadat karte ho. JAI SHRI RAAAAM!!!!

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  • PPrasad

    For a change , why doesn’t Zia focus on Pakistan and request his friends in Pakistan to go a bit easy on their minorities – the Shias, Ahmediyas, Christians and Hindus.
    The recent bomb blasts in Shia places of worship, localities were barbaric and absolutely blood curdling, to say the least.
    There are reports of an entire Christian neighbourhood being burnt down in Lahore, mercifully no one was killed.
    Hindus – especially girls- have to live under the threat of Kidnapping, Forced Conversions etc.

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  • SECULAR VERSES OF QURAN/HADITH

    THIS ZIA IS A TAQQIYA MASTER!!
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    TAQQIYA=acting, lying, deception, denial, false friendship, crying all the time against s0-called injustice to peaceful muslims, human rights, sickularism blah blah etc to F00L the Non_muslim to HIDE the REAL instructions of the fascist Books Quran/Hadith and to HIDE the real intensions of Puslims, this method of deception is only employed in case muslims are living in Non_muslim majority lands. there are many verses in the Quran/Hadith which explain ,how and when to do taqqiya, to muslims…following are some of those verses; -
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    Holy Quran Verse 3:28 (Al-Taqqiya)

    لَا يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْكَافِرِينَ أَوْلِيَاءَ مِنْ
    دُونِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ۖ وَمَنْ يَفْعَلْ ذَٰلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللَّهِ فِي شَيْءٍ
    إِلَّا أَنْ تَتَّقُوا مِنْهُمْ تُقَاةً ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ ۗ
    وَإِلَى اللَّهِ الْمَصِيرُ

    “Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends
    in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah
    unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were)
    security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the
    journeying.”
    ============================================================Bukhari (50:369) – Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka’b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad’s insistence. The men who voBukhari (50:369) – Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka’b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad’s insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka’b’s trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.lunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka’b’s trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.
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    Qur’an (16:106) – Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie.
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    Qur’an (3:28) – This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.”
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    Qur’an (9:3) – “…Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters…” The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.
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    Qur’an (40:28) – A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must “hide his faith” among those who are not believers.
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    Qur’an (2:225) – “Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts” The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.
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    Qur’an (66:2) – “Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths”
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    Know One thing, INDIA will remain a Secular nation only till the time We Hindus/XIans/Sikhs/Jains/Buddhists/Atheists and other non_muslims remain in majority in India, becoz all of us non_muslims do not have the habit of killing people in the name of God. XIanity has gone through a long, painful but much needed reform period which brought Europe out of the dark ages, but ISLAM is still stuck in TIME, in Bedouin Fascist culture of 6th century arabia.

    But we shall remain in majority only till 2040, becoz after that time, Muslims will become majority (becoz of rampant illegal immigration of puslims from Bangladesh, and Pakistan, and Breeding-Like-R A T $ indian muslims who are growing at 2.5 times the rate of non_muslims inside India)

    Read the following and open your eyes., these fascist, barbaric verses are what is taught to young muslim boys/girls across the islamic world from early childhood. These verses are from the Quran/Hadith.
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    “The unbelievers among the People of the Book [Bible] and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.” Quran 98:6
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    “Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another…” Quran 5:51 (Muslims love XIans/Jewslol!!)
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    “He that chooses a another religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost.” Quran 3:85 (Secular concept)
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    Chapter 9: At-Taubah: “The Repentance”
    Verse 30: “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”
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    Chapter 9: At-Taubah: “The Repentance”
    Verse 29: “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor
    hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger,
    nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book( Jews/Xians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
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    Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding
    will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”
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    “Let not believers make friends with infidels in preference to the faithful – he that does this has nothing to hope for from Good – except in self-defense. God admonishes you to fear Him: for to God shall all return.” Quran 3:28 (Taqqiya)
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    Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.
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    Chapter 4(An-Nisa: “the women”)
    Verse 56: Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses – We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.
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    Chapter 9: At-Taubah: “The Repentance”
    Verse 5: And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush.
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    Chapter 8: Al-Anfal: “The Spoils of War”
    Verse 12: “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”
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    Chapter 61: As-Saf: “The Ranks”
    Verse 4: “Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way” (Religion of Peace, indeed! ) This is followed by (61:9): “He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist.”
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    Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally.”
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    Bukhari (11:626) – [Muhammad said:] “I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes.”
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    “This Book is not to be doubted…. As for the unbelievers, it is the same whether or not you forewarn them; they will not have faith. God has set a seal upon their hearts and ears; their sight is dimmed and grievous punishment awaits them.” Quran 2:1/2:6-2:10
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    “God’s curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God’s own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God’s most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers.” Quran 2:89-2:90
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    “Lord…Give us victory over the unbelievers.” Quran 2:286
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    “Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate.” Quran 9:73
    =========================================================”Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.” Quran 9:123
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    “Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers(Non_muslims). Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed with rods of iron.
    “Whenever, in their anguish, they(Non_muslims) try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: ‘Taste the torment of the Conflagration!’” Quran 22:19-20
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    “Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” Quran 48:29 (Secular concept)
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    “Those that deny Our revelations We will burn in fire. No sooner will their skins be consumed than We shall give them other skins, so that they may truly taste the scourge. God is mighty and wise.” Quran 4:56 (peaceful verse)
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    “Let not the unbelievers think that they will ever get away. They have not the power to do so. Muster against them all the men and cavalry at your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of God and your enemy…” Quran 8:59-60
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    “Believers, know that the idolaters [non-Muslims] are unclean. Let them not approach the Sacred Mosque after this year is ended.” Quran 9:28
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    Beautiful/Peaceful Islam Holy Book’s verses on WOMEN=following=
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    “They ask you about menstruation. Say: ‘It is an indisposition. Keep aloof from women during their menstrual periods and do not approach them until they are clean again; when they are clean, have intercourse with them whence God enjoined you….’” Quran 2:222
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    “Women are your fields: go, then, into your fields whence you please.” Quran 2:223
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    “Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and forsake them in beds apart, and beat them.” Quran 4:34
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    “A male shall inherit twice as much as a female.” Quran 4:11
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    “[Forbidden to you are] married women, except those whom you own as slaves.” Quran 4:24 (WOW!!!)
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    “Rewards in Paradise” VERSES are following=
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    “The righteous shall return to a blessed retreat: the gardens of Eden, whose gates shall open wide to receive them. Reclining there with bashful virgins for companions, they will call for abundant fruit and drink.” Quran 38:51-2 (WOW!!!)
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    “God has purchased from the faithful their lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for the cause of God, they will slay, and be slain. Such is the true promise which He has made them in the Torah, the Gospel and the Koran….” Quran 9:111
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    “As for the righteous, they shall be lodged in peace together amid gardens and fountains, arrayed in rick silks and fine brocade. Even thus; and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris.” Quran 44:51-54 (WOW!!!!)
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    “On that day [the unbelievers] shall be sternly thrown into the fire of Hell . . . But in fair gardens the righteous shall dwell in bliss, rejoicing in what their Lord will give them. Their Lord will shield them from the scourge of Hell. He will say: Eat and drink to your hearts content. This is the reward of your labours. (WOW!!!!)
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    “They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris [virgin girls] We shall wed them. . . . Fruit We shall give them, and such meats as they desire. They will pass from hand to hand a cup inspiring no idle talk, no sinful urge; and there shall wait on them(for Muslim Women Martyrs) young boys of their own, as fair as virgin pearls.” Quran 52:13-24
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    “Reclining there upon soft couches, they shall feel neither the scorching heat nor the biting cold. Trees will spread their shade around them, and fruits will hang in clusters over them.
    (WOW!!!)
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    “They shall be served with silver dishes, and beakers as large as goblets; silver goblets which they themselves shall measure: and cups brim-full with ginger-flavoured water from a fount called Salsabil. They shall be attended by boys graced with eternal youth, who to the beholders eyes will seem like sprinkled pearls. When you gave upon that scene, you will behold a kingdom blissful and glorious.” Quran 76:9-20 (WOW)
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    Quotes from the Hadiths or Records of Mohammed’s Deeds and Words=following=
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    “The Prophet…said: I am commanded to fight with men till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His servant and His apostle, face our qiblah (direction of prayer), eat what we slaughter, and pray like us.” Sunan Abu Dawud 14.2635
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    “…the Apostle of Allah [said]: He who goes forth in Allah’s path and dies or is killed is a martyr…and will go to Paradise.” Sunan Abu Dawud 14.2493 (WOW!!!, so Afzal Guru is in Paradise right now!!!)
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    “The Prophet…said: Our Lord Most High is pleased with a man who fights in the path of Allah…” Sunan Abu Dawud 14.2530
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    “The Prophet used to go round (have $ e x u @ L relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives.” Sahih Bukhari 7.62.6 (WOW!!!!, Prophet was a SUPERMAN)
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    “The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).” Sahih Bukhari 7.62.88, 7.62.64 (thats So nice!!)
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    “Once Allah’s Apostle went out to [offer the prayer]… Then he passed by the women and said, ‘O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).’ They asked, ‘Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle?’ He replied, ‘You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.’ The women asked, ‘O Allah’s Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?’ He said, ‘Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?’ They replied in the affirmative. He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her intelligence.’” Sahih Bukhari 1.6.301 (Now, THATS SOME REAL GENDER EQUALITY CONCEPT RIght there!!)
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    NON_MUSLIMS, all the VERSES above are TRUE and Just a TIP-of-the-ICEBERG of all the SECULAR verses of the Quran/Hadith, but actually U have to Know Arabic and understand the “CONTEXTS/TIMES/PLACES”(hahahaha LOL) of those verses in order to appreciate the PEACE & SECULARISM that ISLAM/PROPHET MOHMAD/QURAN/HADITH Preach! becoz
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    The TRUTH IS THAT ISLAM WAS, IS, AND WILL ALWAYS BE
    A “RELIGION OF PIECE oops PEACE & LOVE & SECULARISM”!!! =-=—=-=9283240 029

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  • Bystander

    Zia,
    A big part of Madni’s problem is – he has somehow bought into the notion that Mr. Modi is doing a favour to Muslims in Gujarat as there have been no riots past so many years and is subtly playing to the chorus. This fits rather well with the “Modi ji laao Desh bachao” campaign. A campaign based on dubious premise.

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  • Rampris

    Dear ZIA HAQ ,

    in case you happen to read my comments you can introspect on my following questions 1) India for the last 66 Years Post INDEPENDENCE except for 6 Years of NDA & 3 Years of JP has been RULED by so called Secular Party/Parties. Why is that the conditions of common Muslims remain so pathetic? worse than other community. Its neither BJP or MODI who has ruled this larger part? 2) even in the last 8 years of UPA rule by the so called Secular Party how much of the social welfare program has reached the poor muslims? Still you want the average poor Muslims to be driven by the DIKTATS of clergy & the liberal middle class muslims by the so called JOURNALIST like you to BELIEVE that BJP or NDA is evil rest all secular party are angels. I think if average Muslims needs uplift themselves socio economically they need to take their own call on whom they think can really help them in improving their living condition rather than follow the Diktats of clergy nor the half baked liberals who just want to pocket their own share of fortune by siding with establishment & PROPAGATE lopsided stories To Put it in your own words “Relying on the so called Secular Party alone would be to fall one sandwich short of a picnic” which most of the Muslims have done & are sleeping hungry

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Zia celebrates killing of Hindus in India, Pak and BD but keeps howling when some muslims terrorists are tackled.

    He is a closet Jihadi.

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    Bystander Reply:

    Liar. Show where Zia celebrates those killings.

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  • Faulitics

    :-) . Zia uses the word “creative” when describing the deobands stance against Pakistan. He uses that term in a negative connotation. So taking a stance against creation of Pakistan is negative in zia’s POV but he still lives in India. He is very transparent. His taqqiya is not “creative” enough. He needs to work on it.

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  • Ram

    chaddis

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  • Kunalasmith

    Everyone is Knowing that Gujrat riot was ordered by the Modi Government.every Muslim can not easily to remember this riot.There were many muslim killed in the incident .every Muslim can not be easily accepted Modi as a Prime Minister of India.

    http://www.prlog.org/12113378-jimmy-jazz-promotion-code-enjoy-up-to-80-off-take-it-away.html

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  • Oneidasmith

    Modi is so faced a Lots of difficulty for attract a more and More muslim in the next Loksabha election .what Muslim may be accepted as a Modil Prime Minister?

    http://www.prlog.org/12109042-light-in-the-box-coupon-code-50-off-on-every-order.html

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