Palestine 2009, a poem



A piece of cloud, distant and fleeting,
The clouded fate of longings,
Of people in floating weightlessness. Wailing over the wall,
Is the jaundiced West Bank moon,
Yellow, not white,
And hardly burning.

A raft of suffocating simoom blows,
There, where a tedious fight rages,
Mother tells son:
“Go, go one last time, son
we’ll catch next in paradise.”

But heaven knows, ’tis vain,
Brains and innards blown
Into the air,
Death is nightmare, not dream

Now, echoes of an intifada, dying,
An Arab hamlet’s graveyard, bustling,
Lights from Jerusalem, blinding,
I smell phosphorus,
How long, before I can breathe,
The breeze of Palestinian nativity?

Via Dolores, will Christ walk again?
Is Mohammed coming to Jerusalem? Or Moshe?
Political prophets bring us new revelations,
Of boots and occupation.

Neither war nor peace,
Nor land or trees,
Palestine, a piece of cloud now,
Distant and fleeting,
To the edge of nebulous time

(Written at Dan Hotel, Jerusalem, 20 December 2009)

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  • Anonymous

    Dynasty has all the baggage in a democracy where a leader cannot–no matter how good he is– simply use stick to get things in order. You cannot expect a dynasty to do what a plain old competion based on meritocracy will do. An Akhilesh can never achieve what a Narendra or Nitish can achieve.

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    Saron Reply:

    Lets watch six months

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  • http://www.desibits.com/ Avinash

    SP was/is never the choice of UP voters, rather they did not have any other option. What a common voter think about a common politician of today, sorry I will not be able to write because of decency and if at all I dare to write, HT will not publish saying I am writing vulgar language. People had only choice. There two “……..” in the fray contesting elections and we have to choose who is little less “…….” knowing well both are not competent to run the show.

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    Saron Reply:

    People had expectations

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  • Kumars1

    Sunita, I hope young Akhilesh reads your article. It has commen sense and goodwill for him. For the sake of his state and even India as a whole, I hope he succeeds. But I fear he may not succeed against old time wayward ‘uncles’ i.e. comrades of his dad. Sunita, ask your newspaper to stop being a Congi rag and be balanced and you will find fair minded people appreciating it.

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    Saron Reply:

    Thanks — I think new leaders should be given a chance

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  • Saron

    Agreed

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  • Saron

    Thanks— He has good intentions , sounds positive

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  • Saron

    you are forgetting the carnage

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  • Cynical

    Unfortunately his foreign degree is also suspect. As for the future, I hope you are right and he means to do well. It is 3rd month mark and the wife is now an MP.

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  • Guest

    Dear PRAMIT PAL CHAUDHURI: Trust me two time more anger in Pakistan for Indian army for their recent incursion. Might be Indian soldiers were drunk as usual and they didn’t realize….

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  • http://www.facebook.com/saifatif Atif Saif

    Dear PRAMIT PAL CHAUDHURI: Trust me two time more anger in Pakistan for Indian army for their recent incursion. May be Indian soldiers felt low due to defeat in Cricket or they got drunk as usual and they didn’t realize what they going to do ……

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  • J.Sandhu

    Very good analysis, I agree with you entirely, military support for Afghan is a must, it will have international support and lead to isolation of Pak. The US will then have no need to fund the Pak Army and this will give strength to the political parties who may start asserting themselves. I see your suggestions as a win win situation. It is about time India paid more attention to this region, it should use its goodwill with Iran who could prove to be an invaluable ally in supporting a search for a viable form of Government in Afghan.

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  • balaji

    in pakistan there are nearly unregistered 10 lakh fully trained militants and 50 lakh untrained militants which are brainwashed to fight and die against india and their master minds continuously working out for various differet perfect plans to assolt india……

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  • balaji

    imp note : indian army, government authorities, people should count this informaion :–
    in pakistan there are nearly unregistered 10 lakh fully trained militants and 50 lakh untrained militants which are brainwashed to fight and die against india and their master minds continuously working out for various differet perfect plans to assolt india……

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  • Sumit Bose

    Zia, for all your repeated wailing on Palestine, i have never read you write how Israel came to occupy the land that is now to be designated as Palestine. If you cared to come transparent on this long seemingly intractable problem, I would have no issues with your blinkered “Muslim” view point.
    Israel is astute never to give land captured at the cost of life, blood and limb without guarantees of peace. If our “leaders” had any bone with an iota of nationalistic material, we would never have had “gifted” away land captured during battle hostilities at the cost of our ill-equipped jawans, besides huge national resources and we would not have nurtured a hyena-like neighbor ever predisposed with bellicosity towards our “soft state”.
    The Palestinians have inflicted their own misery many fold by taking an “absolutist” stand, and being obdurate in every stage of the negotiation, assuming that the Israelis will grant concessions without guarantees. Only our elected representatives would gift away such concessions and sleep well, compromising national interests.

    Besides, the Arabs have not taken to education to slowly but steadily climb out of their misery, but have chosen the path of martyrdom. Hindus who had to escape from Islamic Pakistan did not stay on the fringes of the boundaries of the newly created Islamic Republic of Pakistan and become human bombs to disrupt life when they lost all their possessions. The Punjabis and Bengalis went about their new miserable circumstances to rebuild their lives individually, not continue to live and fester to bring turmoil in UN sponsored refugee camps for decades.

    BTW, Mr Muslim, have you ever written about the plight of Hindus who had to leave their homes and start all over, nahhh… you never did, but your articles on Palestine are a bi-monthly feature. Does that not tug at your sense of fair-play and justice for all dispossessed people, certainly not, because as a Muslim; you are not “programmed” to consider worth registering on your mental radar any pain/grievance of any other than that of fellow Muslims. Shame on you and the debased human values

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    engrich Reply:

    summit you are converting killer modi into god.but this is your old history.

    in our literature God is described as the
    embodiment of love. But you find dreadful weapons in the hands of gods.
    Are gods murderers? Is there a single god that has not killed anyone?
    The Puranas are replete with umpteen instances to prove that
    gods killed so many. Are your gods butchers? How are we to be convinced
    of the statement that gods are kind?it is only brhmncl gods who are loaded with deadly weapons.

    With all these baseless, senseless and idiotic thoughts , u have
    succeeded in making our society static, reactionary and dumb. People
    have lost their sense of thinking

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    Engrich mian, did you even bother to read what i opined on this Muslim’s recurring one sided spin on the Israeli occupation of Palestine? I made no mention of NM or any Hindu Gods.
    It was just a stark contrast with the Bengalis, Punjabis and Sindhis who were dispossessed, just as the Arabs from the current Palestinian lands, at around the same time, and just look at what, with a constructive mind-set, they have achieved as a community! They are all so productive inspite of having to escape in most tragic circumstances.

    i am very aware of you, Indian pseudo-arabs, memorizing your scriptures without even a farthing’s comprehension of Arabic, but to sleep walk as a somnambulist in English takes the cake and the bakery!
    Mian, get a life with some capacity to reflect independently and do not shame the institutions where you obtained your literacy from.

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    engrich Reply:

    i will awnser ur idiocy tommorow.

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @ Engrich Mian, why tomorrow, is the brain shop is closed today?

    engrich Reply:

    i have someother fools like u.wait.keep grease and vaseline ready.

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @Engrich Mian, Thanks for advertising your preference of the 23 pre-puberty boys over 72 virgins!.What would your preference be for the sexes of the 80,000 servants, please?

    ehgrich Reply:

    KRISHNA HAD 16003 WIFES,as per rajneesh 15003 were kidnapped and
    married.brhmns were helping the kidnapping and used to convince their
    husbands that if u will give their wives to bhagwan krishna ,u will go
    heaven or will suffer in neven 7 janms.
    apart from so many wives and
    concubines he used to fk his neighbours wife called radha.this immoral
    act is celeberated by u people.brhmn makes good money out of this.so i
    pray,

    Urvashi – the daughter of Lord Vishnu – is a pro. Vashitha is the
    son of this pro. He in turn married his own Mother. Such a degraded
    person is the Guru of the Hindu God Rama. (page 48)

    ? When Krishna himself is wallowing in darkness of hell, how can he
    enlighten others? Since Krishna himself is a shady character, there is a
    need for us to liberate his misled followers. (page 50)

    ? It was Brahma himself who kidnapped Sita. Since Brahma, Vishnu
    and Shiva were themselves the victims of l**t, it is a sin to consider
    them as Gods. (page 39)

    ? When the Trinity of Hinduism (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) are
    consumed by l**t and anger, how can they liberate others. Their
    projection as Gods is nothing but a joke. (page 39).

    ? When Vishnu asked Brahma to commit a sin, he immediately did so.
    How can such a “evil brahma” be a Creator of this Universe? How is it
    possible for both the sinner and the entity which provoked the sin to be
    gods? (page 39)

    ? God, please liberate the sinful people of India who are
    worshipping False Gods that believe in the pleasures of illicit
    ‘Vyabichari’ relationships. (Page 39).

    so u know how fool u people are.young cpm cdres ********** on durga picture.tell me how she became goddess.from shanghai one kayasth brought her picture in 18th century and u idiots started worshipping her.what she can do to you.

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @EngrichMIAN, you have totally lost the plot! This Zia Mian has put out a “poem” on the “sufferings” of the Palestinians. I responded to his being “blind” to Hindus who suffered as much or much more at around the same year and had to escape from Islamic Republic of Pakistan. The Kashmiri Hindus had to suffer the same fate in 1989, this Zia Mian has never bothered to write about their pain and angst, and as a bi-monthly feature brings up Palestine regularly.

    If the stark contrast to the determination and mind-set of the Hindus vis-a-vis that of the muslims, who have chosen to survive on hand-outs and abstain from education, reside on the fringes of their dispossessed land and live only to disrupt peace by becoming martyrs and jihadis, inflicting more misery and suffering on themselves.

    The Hindus ( Bengalis, Punjabis, Sindhis and now Kashmiris) have moved on and restarted life with education, humility and forbearance. This Muslim has never registered on his radar this stark contrast, but just remains in the “mataam” mode, blinded by the torpor of Islamic supremacy.
    As if, not to be outdone by this ZiaMian, you are on a rant on a totally unrelated topic. Mian, by shouting that the other person is ugly, does the hide the fact that you have no nose! (and brains, too)

    BSS Reply:

    LMAO! Grease sounds better for this fool. Vaseline would not be worth it!

    BSS Reply:

    Woops I guess he was at the madarsa with me! Poor fellow!

    BSS Reply:

    “sleep walk as a somnambulist” Only a bong could have done this! LMAO. Get an education dude!

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @BSS Mian, get an english dictionary and try to learn some new words/concepts for self-improvement, that would be much more constructive than being an “internet jihadi”… that is no different from the typical jihadi-nutcase; honours after a complete “madrassa brainscrub”..

    Dr.Raj Reply:

    Yes, they carry weapons to the brim, but you tend to forget that they also have two hands blessing the devotes. And those two hands are what make Hindus humble and followers of non violence, but it also tells that if we take to violence, we create history.
    And the less we discuss about your god the better, the whole world knows about it, and when some one points it out to you, you guys cannot take it, as they say “truth hurts”.

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    engrich Reply:

    that is why india had 1200 anti-muslim riots after partition.from jabalpur to ahmadabad shows ur humblenes.for 3000 years of vedic rule 98%of indians were allowed to go to school.can u name one university college hospital or library opened by u.budhhdist were not hindus.dont take their achievement in your account.

    engrich Reply:

    vedic rule 98%of indians were allowed to go to

    please read,

    vedic rule 98%of indians were not allowed to go to

    BSS Reply:

    So you’ve now come here to display your rank ignorance! Nice!!

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @BSS, peddlers of darkness run scared of illumination! I dont know in which millennium you have arisen from, to presume that your “madrassa brainscrub” is the only education worth having!

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    BSS Reply:

    I KNOW that my madarsa brainscrub is the only education worth having. I am especially convinced after picking your lies apart in the other thread. You were fumbling without anything to answer back! Learn something at your RSS shakha. Don’t they teach you anything apart from bomb making? :P

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    Bomb making and becoming martyrs as ‘human bombs: are all the hall-marks of the madrassa brainscrub.Your ’secular” education is a squandered resource, it would have enriched the life of one motivated to improve oneself or society, but with that resource wasted by you , it will only be put to the use of pseudo- arabs and anti-nationalists. Besides, I have never advocated anything in favour of the RSS, RSS are not the only people in the country firm about making our Bharat stronger and better.

    rich Reply:

    Quran is a divine book. The whole world knows that everything in there is 100% scientifically evident.

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    J P Kalra Reply:

    @rich, get lost, you are fit to be only in Zakir Naik’s spin zone.

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    Faulitics Reply:

    Hahaha….amarchitrkatha is more divine than the Arab Koran. Atleast its not as violent and barbaric as the Arab Koran.

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    rex minor Reply:

    I do not take you or the other riffrafs seriously, but people from your part
    of the world may. Most Indians are expert in polemics, ignorance of past history
    and have not the ability to appreciate the present nor have the foresight for
    the future. They have not the appeciation of what the arabs gave to the European
    continent at the time when people lived in our part of the world like
    barbarians, most were peasants but did not know how to till the land or irrigate
    it economicaly and were illetrates and few of the rich class were barons and
    land owners whose life was with courtisans and several mistresses, wine and sex
    on the menu and every now and then on the prowl to plunder others from their
    land and property.

    Inquisition is the term which comes to my mind which the cathlolic chuch
    embarked on against muslims and jews in Spain and the many crusades it
    proclaimed and organised against the so called Barbarian Arabs. The Byzantinian
    empire had to be defeated and the military advancement in the European lands had
    to continue until the time the Habsburger holy empire offered to pay the
    tributes to the Turkish sultan who then agreed to lift the siege at Wien.

    The inquisition of the christian church never stopped todate, within the
    christian community and outside, the jews and the muslims in the forefront. It
    was the last samurai Pope Bendict who under the influence of the evangelist
    christians of the USA and his intensive love of history books, reminded the
    muslims that the war of the clergy against Islam is stil on. It was King
    Abdullah of Saudi Arabia who paid a visit to the Vatican to remind the Benedict
    sixteen that he is also the head of the state and should use common sense if the
    intellect cannot keep up with his age and failing health and he should
    concentrate on reforming his institution as well as perform his missionary
    obligations to sprea the word of God in the world of non-believers. He warned
    him that the society will not survive as we are used to if God, the creator is
    no longer in the middle of our communities. The social gaps without the belief
    shall widen and so on. The Pope was invited to Istanbol, where he prayed
    together with the muslim Priest in the blue mosque, thereby taking a step
    towards reconciiation.

    The unending story goes on

  • Faulitics

    This blind and irrational support for “Palestinian” Arabs. Another sign of arabization. Religious network has been used to inform the “believers” about which side to take in political fights over land even though it may have nothing to do with the believers geographical location , local culture or other relevant circumstances. A thoroughly politicized religion. Not sure where religious beliefs end and politics begins. It’s all a mishmash.

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  • Kaul

    How about plight of native Hindus in Kashmir and Islamic republic of Pakistan? Notice there have been no Hindu terrorists there despite their horrific plight and decimation. Only Muslim terrorists there as well.

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  • Raul

    New York Times is writing today that aid to refugees of Muslim on Muslim genocide in Syria is mostly provided by E.U. and USA. It specifically mentions Muslim nations – rich Persian Gulf- as not providing enough aid for fellow Muslim refugees.

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    vanchoo Reply:

    problem over there is created by france and rich arab countries supported by america and britain.the way they have destroyed syria,their aid is not even peanut.

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  • agnivesh

    ndia’s Narendra Modi and the Tale of Two Rapes

    By Shikha Dalmia Jan 17, 2013 7:42 AM PT

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-17/india-s-narendra-modi-and-the-tale-of-two-rapes.html

    One of the most obscene moments after the death of the gang-rape victim in New Delhi was a tweet by Narendra Modi, the chief minister of the Indian state of Gujarat, offering regret and condolences to the dead woman’s family.

    Modi,
    who has quelled restive minorities by allowing attackers to subject
    women to unspeakable horrors, has done more than any man to numb his
    prudish country to sexual violence. Yet he was elected to a third term
    last month and is the presumptive front-runner of the Bharatiya Janata Party, the main Hindu opposition party, for prime minister in next year’s national elections.

    So
    long as Indians keep rewarding politicos such as Modi, the country’s
    collective outrage after the New Delhi case won’t change the culture that makes such atrocities common in India.

    The attack on the 23-year-old physiotherapy student was depraved.
    Five men and a teenager in a private bus are accused of kidnapping,
    beating, raping and violating her with an iron rod — and then dumping
    her and her semi-conscious boyfriend on a highway, where they also
    allegedly tried to run her over. But as monstrous as this crime was,
    consider what happened in Gujarat in February 2002, a few months after
    Modi assumed office.

    Organized
    bands of well-armed Hindus — some from groups tied to Modi’s party —
    fanned across the state seeking revenge against Muslims for allegedly
    burning a train full of Hindu pilgrims a few weeks earlier. The Hindu
    rioters systematically sought out and destroyed Muslim homes and businesses, killing more than 1,000 people.

    Extreme Violence

    Muslim women were singled out. According to many Indian and foreign sources, including a Human Rights Watch account and a report by
    an international research team called “Threatened Existence: A Feminist
    Analysis of the Genocide in Gujarat,” women were stripped, gang-raped,
    often publicly, and in almost all cases then burned or hacked to death.

    The
    reason the violence reached such extremes was that the state police
    stood back and didn’t intervene to stop the Hindu attacks and even told
    victims that it couldn’t protect them. As if the bloodletting wasn’t
    horrific enough, Modi subsequently dismantled the shelters constructed by private organizations for dispossessed Muslims, calling them “child-breeding centers.”

    Compared
    with the New Delhi rape, which has triggered a protest movement in
    India calling for the castration and execution of the suspects, the
    Gujarat rapes and pogrom elicited barely a whimper. Many Hindus either
    deny that the horror even occurred or, if they accept it, claim it
    wasn’t as grisly as news accounts suggest. And if they believe the
    accounts, they say Muslims had it coming. Fewer than 100 out of the
    thousands accused — among them only one state minister and one Bharatiya Janata Party leader — were convicted,
    and that was a decade later. Modi himself was exonerated.

    Whatever
    public disgust there was against him has dissipated, given the stellar
    economic growth that Gujarat has seen on his watch. Business leaders and
    corporations, from India and overseas, turn a blind eye to Modi’s role
    in allowing the bloodshed, and praise his economic stewardship. His
    business backers have already managed to
    get the U.K. government to reverse its long-standing ban on him and to
    give him a visa. Now they are trying to persuade the U.S. government to
    follow suit.

    What accounts for the wide gulf in the Indian public response to the single crime in New Delhi and the mass crimes in Gujarat?

    On a positive side, attitudes toward women have evolved considerably
    since the Gujarat atrocity 11 years ago. Indian women’s aspirations and
    opportunities have increased, especially in big cities, and they are
    demanding that the governing classes keep pace and create an environment
    in which they are free to move around safely.

    Changed Attitudes

    After
    the New Delhi attack, any politician or even religious guru — no
    matter how revered — who suggested that women need to circumscribe
    their lives and choices for their own protection was condemned and
    lampooned, something scarcely imaginable when I was growing up in New
    Delhi (in a Hindu household) in the 1970s.

    But
    the darker reality is that the young woman’s rape and murder outraged
    the country’s Hindu urban middle class because it was a random and
    senseless act that could have just as easily victimized their daughters.
    Not so with attacks on the Muslim women in Gujarat. The premeditated
    and programmatic violence against them meant that the broader Hindu
    majority was insulated from it. If the New Delhi woman’s fate made every
    Indian feel more
    vulnerable, the attack on the Muslim women made Hindus feel more secure.

    There
    are other reasons for India’s apathy toward Modi’s misdeeds. India is a
    democracy and has its share of human-rights activists and watchdog
    groups keeping an eye on government brutality. Yet the public at large
    has little appreciation of the dangers associated with overly muscular
    government. Indians complain constantly about government dysfunction and
    corruption. Yet they have little compunction about giving draconian
    powers to their rulers in the name of security. The upshot, tragically,
    is that Indians care less about state-fueled rape than when perpetrated
    by individuals.

    The
    scale of the sexual violence in Gujarat was unprecedented in India. But
    smaller episodes are a matter of routine. The Indian army has been accused of using rape as
    a weapon to crush secessionist movements in Kashmir and Manipur. After
    one particularly heinous case eight years ago, Manipuri women stripped
    naked and stormed the army headquarters with placards plaintively
    protesting: “Indian Army Rapes Us.”

    Tolerating
    sexual violence for any purpose erodes the overall stigma against it,
    opening a moral space where hoodlums can run amok. The lack of national
    outrage against the mass rapes perpetrated under Modi reduces their true
    cruelty, breaking down the psychological walls that would at least
    prevent nonsociopaths from going on a rampage. Hindus who turn a blind
    eye to the rape of Muslim women can’t ultimately protect their own.

    How
    India can restore moral boundaries is a difficult issue, but it
    certainly won’t be solved by electing Modi to higher office — even if
    he were Adam Smith himself. Protesters shouldn’t just seek justice against the six accused in New Delhi. Modi, too, has much to atone.

    (Shikha
    Dalmia is a contributor to Bloomberg View and a Detroit-based senior
    analyst at Reason Foundation. The opinions expressed are her own.)

    To contact the writer of this article: Shikha Dalmia in Detroit at shikhadalmia62@gmail.com.


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  • agnivesh

    ndia’s Narendra Modi and the Tale of Two Rapes

    By Shikha Dalmia Jan 17, 2013 7:42 AM PT

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/...

    One of the most obscene moments after the death of the gang-rape victim in
    New Delhi was a tweet by Narendra Modi, the chief minister of the Indian state
    of Gujarat, offering regret and condolences to the dead woman’s family.

    Modi,
    who has quelled restive minorities by allowing attackers to
    subject
    women to unspeakable horrors, has done more than any man to numb
    his
    prudish country to sexual violence. Yet he was elected to a third
    term
    last month and is the presumptive front-runner of the Bharatiya Janata
    Party, the main Hindu opposition party, for prime minister in next year’s
    national elections.

    So
    long as Indians keep rewarding politicos such as Modi, the
    country’s
    collective outrage after the New Delhi case won’t change the
    culture that makes such atrocities common in India.

    The attack on the 23-year-old physiotherapy student was depraved.
    Five men
    and a teenager in a private bus are accused of kidnapping,
    beating, raping
    and violating her with an iron rod — and then dumping
    her and her
    semi-conscious boyfriend on a highway, where they also
    allegedly tried to run
    her over. But as monstrous as this crime was,
    consider what happened in
    Gujarat in February 2002, a few months after
    Modi assumed office.

    Organized
    bands of well-armed Hindus — some from groups tied to Modi’s
    party –
    fanned across the state seeking revenge against Muslims for
    allegedly
    burning a train full of Hindu pilgrims a few weeks earlier. The
    Hindu
    rioters systematically sought out and destroyed Muslim homes and
    businesses, killing more than 1,000 people.

    Extreme Violence

    Muslim women were singled out. According to many Indian and foreign sources,
    including a Human Rights Watch account and a report by
    an international
    research team called “Threatened Existence: A Feminist
    Analysis of the
    Genocide in Gujarat,” women were stripped, gang-raped,
    often publicly, and in
    almost all cases then burned or hacked to death.

    The
    reason the violence reached such extremes was that the state
    police
    stood back and didn’t intervene to stop the Hindu attacks and even
    told
    victims that it couldn’t protect them. As if the bloodletting
    wasn’t
    horrific enough, Modi subsequently dismantled the shelters constructed
    by private organizations for dispossessed Muslims, calling them “child-breeding
    centers.”

    Compared
    with the New Delhi rape, which has triggered a protest movement
    in
    India calling for the castration and execution of the suspects,
    the
    Gujarat rapes and pogrom elicited barely a whimper. Many Hindus
    either
    deny that the horror even occurred or, if they accept it, claim
    it
    wasn’t as grisly as news accounts suggest. And if they believe
    the
    accounts, they say Muslims had it coming. Fewer than 100 out of
    the
    thousands accused — among them only one state minister and one Bharatiya
    Janata Party leader — were convicted,
    and that was a decade later. Modi
    himself was exonerated.

    Whatever
    public disgust there was against him has dissipated, given the
    stellar
    economic growth that Gujarat has seen on his watch. Business leaders
    and
    corporations, from India and overseas, turn a blind eye to Modi’s
    role
    in allowing the bloodshed, and praise his economic stewardship.
    His
    business backers have already managed to
    get the U.K. government to
    reverse its long-standing ban on him and to
    give him a visa. Now they are
    trying to persuade the U.S. government to
    follow suit.

    What accounts for the wide gulf in the Indian public response to the single
    crime in New Delhi and the mass crimes in Gujarat?

    On a positive side, attitudes toward women have evolved considerably
    since
    the Gujarat atrocity 11 years ago. Indian women’s aspirations
    and
    opportunities have increased, especially in big cities, and they
    are
    demanding that the governing classes keep pace and create an
    environment
    in which they are free to move around safely.

    Changed Attitudes

    After
    the New Delhi attack, any politician or even religious guru —
    no
    matter how revered — who suggested that women need to
    circumscribe
    their lives and choices for their own protection was condemned
    and
    lampooned, something scarcely imaginable when I was growing up in
    New
    Delhi (in a Hindu household) in the 1970s.

    But
    the darker reality is that the young woman’s rape and murder
    outraged
    the country’s Hindu urban middle class because it was a random
    and
    senseless act that could have just as easily victimized their
    daughters.
    Not so with attacks on the Muslim women in Gujarat. The
    premeditated
    and programmatic violence against them meant that the broader
    Hindu
    majority was insulated from it. If the New Delhi woman’s fate made
    every
    Indian feel more
    vulnerable, the attack on the Muslim women made
    Hindus feel more secure.

    There
    are other reasons for India’s apathy toward Modi’s misdeeds. India
    is a
    democracy and has its share of human-rights activists and
    watchdog
    groups keeping an eye on government brutality. Yet the public at
    large
    has little appreciation of the dangers associated with overly
    muscular
    government. Indians complain constantly about government dysfunction
    and
    corruption. Yet they have little compunction about giving
    draconian
    powers to their rulers in the name of security. The upshot,
    tragically,
    is that Indians care less about state-fueled rape than when
    perpetrated
    by individuals.

    The
    scale of the sexual violence in Gujarat was unprecedented in India.
    But
    smaller episodes are a matter of routine. The Indian army has been
    accused of using rape as
    a weapon to crush secessionist movements in Kashmir
    and Manipur. After
    one particularly heinous case eight years ago, Manipuri
    women stripped
    naked and stormed the army headquarters with placards
    plaintively
    protesting: “Indian Army Rapes Us.”

    Tolerating
    sexual violence for any purpose erodes the overall stigma
    against it,
    opening a moral space where hoodlums can run amok. The lack of
    national
    outrage against the mass rapes perpetrated under Modi reduces their
    true
    cruelty, breaking down the psychological walls that would at
    least
    prevent nonsociopaths from going on a rampage. Hindus who turn a
    blind
    eye to the rape of Muslim women can’t ultimately protect their own.

    How
    India can restore moral boundaries is a difficult issue, but
    it
    certainly won’t be solved by electing Modi to higher office — even
    if
    he were Adam Smith himself. Protesters shouldn’t just seek justice against
    the six accused in New Delhi. Modi, too, has much to atone.

    (Shikha
    Dalmia is a contributor to Bloomberg View and a Detroit-based
    senior
    analyst at Reason Foundation. The opinions expressed are her own.)

    To contact the writer of this article: Shikha Dalmia in Detroit at shikhadalmia62@gmail.com.


    Teesta Setalvad
    ‘Nirant’, Juhu Tara Road,
    Juhu, Mumbai – 400
    049

    http://teestasetalvad.blogspot...
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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    Teesta, Your “selective outrage” is disgusting. For all your activism for justice, One never gets to hear anything done by you for the over 350 Hindus who dies in the same post-Godhra riots. We have no news of how many women were raped how many houses and businesses burnt. Hindus are not taking our pseudo-secularists on “tours” to exhibit their wounds as beggars. Hindus who had to escape from newly created Islamic republic of Pakistan, came quietly and went about with the serious business of rebuilding their lives, not living in the fringes of the newly created Islamic republic of Pakistan to become human bombs to attain martyrdom and get “married” to 72 virgins.

    As there has been no Arab or English-media sponsorship of Hindu “suffering” during the post-Godhra riots, there has been a total ‘black-out” of the rape and deaths of Hindus. Not one main-stream news source published any report or article that brought to the public domain the killings, rapes and vandalism on Hindus. you have proved your blatant partisanship by not bring to justice a single killer of the many Hindus who died or was raped then

    There have been thousands of violent incidents in post-partition India and almost all are “erupt” as people come out of Friday congregations. We “coward” Hindus have learnt to take the brunt of these vandals, till the police “receive” orders to restore law and order and this always suspiciously, coincides when Hindus have banded together to defend and retaliate.

    If NM has backers in USA , why does that get your “goat”? Al-Qaida, Osama Bin Laden, Hafeez Said, Owaisis, all have their backers for their agendas. NM’s agenda is development and ones geared to that will back him for his track record, period.

    While rapes in Manipur seem to be genuine and does need to be addressed, rapes in Kashmir are total fabrications, inquiries after inquires have not been able to match the fantastic claims of the islamic jihadis. I recall with bemused wonder, a telecast of one grieving father of a “stone-thrower” , killed by police bullets, saying that his son was not doing anything, he had only gone to get some milk! This is wonderful as Mohammad Atta’s father ( the main leader of the 9/11 gang) screaming vociferously on CNN a day after, that his son was alive and he had spoken to his son just 4 hours ago, swearing obscenities on USA. This is in no way any effort to “trivialize” the personal grief each of these fathers had to contend with, but to invert the personal grief into a political move is reprehensible and must not be tolerated or encouraged, and that is precisely what you have been at for years!

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    engrich Reply:

    u are bloody liar.all ur argument are bullshit bunch of lies and untruth.dont require any awnser.

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    vanchoo Reply:

    u are bose means kayasth.kayasths are illegimate sons of brhmn.ur mothers were raped brhns.u have slave blood write non sense for money.

    ur forefathers were boot polishers and a$$ lickers of british empire.

    u and ur bitish masters converted sonar bangla to bhootbanla.still u are showing ur ******* to them for few dollars.

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  • Anonymous

    This Zia guy has all the attributes of to-be-terrorist. No wonder he was refused entry in US.

    Shame on HT for employing a Jihadi as journalist.

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  • engrich

    http://www.opinion-maker.org/2013/01/why-the-palestinian-diaspora/

    good article by allen hart.read and take knowledge.u bengalee are myopic self centred highly rascist community.

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  • peace

    Such a nice piece of literature. Beautiful poem. Surprised to see the comments section, no wonder how intolerant indians are!! Hindu or muslim killing innocent civilians is an inhumane act!

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    engrich Reply:

    few of them like idiot bose is paid.otherwise indians are tolerant.but there are hindu zoinist like christian zoinists.they are brhmnst.they are expert in lying moulding the facts.they follow their old scripture which is as follows,

    Brahmin punishment to shudras
    Christening:
    Good and auspicious names should be given to the Brahmins only.
    Kshatriyas should be given names connoting braveness and valour.
    Vaisyas’s name should be based on articles.

    Sudras alone should be given names meaning disgrace and
    degradation. Further the word “Dasan” should be the suffix for all the
    sudra names. (Chap.2, S.31 and 32).

    A Brahmin’s “Poonul” (thread) should be made of cotton. Khatriyas
    Poonul should be made 3 of janappa threads. Vaisyas Poonul should be
    made of goat’s hair. (Chap. 2.S.44).

    Pigs & sudras: Any eatable article becomes polluted and unfit for consumption when:

    (1) A pig dashes against, (2) hens and **** fly over, (3) when a dog looks at, (4) when a sudra touches. (Chap.3.S.241).

    Any one, who offers anything eatable to a sudra after the ceremony
    will go to hell. Such a fool will be punished there. He will have to
    live there upside down. (Chap.3.S.249).

    If the Brahmins happen to eat anything that has been tasted or
    touched by a sudra, that Brahmin should have intercourse with his wife
    that night and the dead will live in the motion of the wife for a month
    (Chap.3.S.250).

    There are seven varieties of sudras:

    (1) He who retreats in a war. (2) A prisoner in a war. (3) One who
    serves a Brahmin out of devotion. (4) Son of a prostitute. (5) One who
    is purchased. (6) One who is adopted. (7) One who is a traditional
    worker. (Chap.8.S.415).

    Duties of the sudra: A sudra worships a Brahmin either for
    salvation or for his livelihood. It will be a good thing for him if he
    calls all others inferior to Brahmins. (Chap.10.S.122).

    As the Kshatriyas have failed to perform rituals and as they
    neglected to worship the Brahmins, they are becoming sudras
    (Chap.10.S.43).

    In any congregation, the Brahmin alone should eat first. If there
    is balance of food, that alone should be given to others. New clothes
    should be worn by Brahmins only and when they become old and torn they
    should be given to others. A sudra is entitled to receive only these.
    (Chap.8.S.125)

    It is the duty of the king to order the sudra to serve the
    Brahmins. If the sudra refuses he should be punished and forced.
    (Chap.10.S.235).

    A Brahmin could extract work from the sudra paying or without
    paying. Brahma has created the sudra only to work for the Brahmins.
    (Chap.8.S.413).

    It is the main duty of the sudra to serve the other communities
    without jealousy. For his service he may get wages. (Chap.1.S.91).

    Exploitation: The wealth of the sudra who does not perform yagna is
    to be deemed as the property of the Asuras. So his wealth could be
    plundered.. (Chap.7.S.248).

    The wealth of the sudra could be forcibly plundered. No consent is needed. There need not be any hesitation. (Chap.11.S.13).

    Even if a sudra is in a position to earn, he should not earn
    anything more than what is needed to his family. If any sudra does so,
    he may go against the Brahmins and be tortured. (Chap.10.S.126).

    Punishment to sudras: If a sudra talks ill of a Brahmin his tongue should be cut off. (Chap.8.S.270).

    If a sudra pronounces the name of a Brahmin or talks of his caste
    or accuses him, an iron rod ten inches long should be heated red-hot and
    thrust into the mouth of the sudra. (Chap.8.S.271).

    If the sudra dictates the Brahmin to do a particular thing, boiled
    oil should be poured into the mouth and ears of the sudra.
    (Chap.8.S.272).

    If the sudra hits at Brahmin’s hair beard, legs, neck, penis, his hands must be cut off. (Chap.8.S.283).

    If the sudra sits in a seat along with a Brahmin, his hips should
    be scorched or he should be driven away from the town. (Chap.8.s.281).

    like european zoinist they most blood thirsty peopl of world..through hate they make money and pauperize indians.we are 137 in living standards.while singapore is 6th.it is because of them 70%on indians eat once in 2 days.

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  • peace

    I love brother Zia’s columns. It seems he has in-depth knowledge of Islam. I feel sorry for all those ignorants who judge this peaceful religion through the eyes of media. These ignorants see talibans as representatives of islam. My request kindly read about the practices and teachings of last prophet(pbuh) or atleast have a look at his last sermon. Its a masterpiece.

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  • peace

    Also, Talibans are just a bunch of people who have no knowledge of islam either!!

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    engrich Reply:

    the hindu fascist are 10 times more voilent than talibans.talibans are fighting against americans.they are robbing and killing their own people and country.

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  • peace

    “….O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have right over you. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and comitted helpers….
    Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer for your
    deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness
    after I am gone…
    Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that
    you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon
    your deeds…
    O People, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand my words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QUR’AN and my example, the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray. All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me direcly. BE MY WITNESS O ALLAH THAT I HAVE CONVEYED YOUR MESSAGE TO YOUR PEOPLE.”
    -Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @peace thanks for your copy/paste. Did you know that there are 624 su-ras that specifically command the faithful to inflict violence on kuffurs. There are certainly a few su-ras and H@dhiths that do advocate tolerance, but rounding up on just a ***-bit of a fragment and ignoring a whole mountains of exhortations of doing exactly the opposite, is stupidity of the highest order.

    If i went on to copy/paste those, this page would run into voloumes; but please go to Ali Sina’s website faithfreedom dot org and get a full read of it all. He has authoritatively and without any spin/deception translated from the Arabic and Bukhari’s collection. M.A. Khan has translated from the authentic chronicles of each of those scoundrels who almost vaporized India, right from Mohmad of Ghori , through to the Slave Dynasty butchers , Babur ( he kept his won records:Baburnamah), right down to Tipu Sultan, how these bands of brigands/rulers brutalized and terroized Indians as an article of faith

    Disowning this and that sect is no defense from a terribly brutal terror-manual. Your faith is known by its actions and actions are far more eloquent than words can ever be. besides you are in a state of total amnesia as you do not even know that all these “jihadis” are actively following the example of just one historical man!

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    engrich Reply:

    right from Mohmad of Ghori , through to the Slave Dynasty butchers ,
    Babur ( he kept his won records:Baburnamah), right down to Tipu Sultan,
    how these bands of brigands/rulers brutalized and terroized Indians as
    an article of faith

    HINDU IS ONLY RELIGION WHERE MAN IS BORN UNEQUAL.

    GHORI GHAZNI AND BABUR BROUGHT THE LIGHT OF JUSTICE AND EQUALITY IN INDIA.

    YOU VEDICS NEVER ALLOWED ANY MOOLNIVASI TO GO TO SCHOOL.U NEVER OPENED ANY SCHOOL LIBRARY HOSPITAL

    UNIVERSITY.

    U VEDICS KEPTINDIA jahil FOR 3000 YEARS AND FOOLED AND ROBBED THEM BY SELLING 33 CRORES DEVTAS TO THEM.

    U ARE FASCIST APARTHEID BY NATURE AND ACTION.lie is your staple food while hate is a duty.

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @EngrichMian, you keep tom-tomminmg this same drivel as a parrot for long. “lower classes were denied education”. Wrong! Education was common and widespread in ancient India, the Buddhists were Indians and they followed the Hindu traditions and continued Hindu methods of education. They were not pseudo-arabs or pseudo-romans.

    If education was denied to 99% of the population in ancient India, how can you explain a bandit/hunter named Ratnakar from the woods become the sage Valmiki and write out the Ramayan in chaste Sanskrit?

    This is just one example.Kalidas was another, and tehre a re so many many more; but are you ever going to absorb, no, you just need to assuage your inferiority complex of being born in a terribly brutal and debased belief system; as I mentioned earlier truth is something you have no stomach for, that is the defining characteristic of an Islamic-nuthead!

    engrich Reply:

    budhdhism is nemesis of hinduism.

    give me name of one library or school built by vedics which was open to all indians.

    peace Reply:

    My non muslim Brother there are only 114 surahs. This shows your lack of knowledge.
    May almighty God guide u to straight path. As of now u r groping in dark.

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    peace Reply:

    Brother Bose, what do u say about mass hysteria during durga puja (idol worshipping… making idols from hands given to u by allah the almighty ) and dancing to the loud tunes of drum beats. And finally trashing the idols in river. What a waste of time, energy, natural and human resources!! I haven’t touched the topic of pollution yet.

    Anyway, I m still passing a smile to you for i’ll get reward for it.
    It is our Historical messenger’s sunnah(practice) to just pass a smile to someone as sadaqah(charity).

    Brother save your skin for the day of judgement. Allah likes those who are of good conduct. And the historical messenger has taught
    ‘the best among you are the ones who are of good morals’ and ‘the best among you are the ones who are good their families’…

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @peace, i just do not revel in the “shifting goalposts” that you Islamic-nutheads always resort to. This blog page is supposedly on the plight of dispossessed people and being a Mian, our ZiaMian is blinkered only to do “maatam” for the Arabs. But you are in Indian convert, it is a pity having resided in the Indian body,all your life, you have been so very successful in insulating your intellect and whatever you see, hear or do is strictly blinkered by the Islamic skull-cap that rests on your brains, not skull. you have not viewed dispassionately why the Hindus get into a celebratory frenzy each year.

    According to tradition, Goddess Durga was married to Lord Shiva, who resided in the celestial abode, she returns to earth ( her parental home during those 10 days each year, also linked with Lord Ram’s prayers to Ma Durga, at the outset of the battle with Ravan’s army)

    It also coincides with the time after the kharif harvest, all rural families have a fresh infusion of funds and this occasion is used to celebrate joy and life. Talents of different sections of society are pooled together to make images of Ma Durga. The prevailing mood is one of celebration, joy and exchange; a brief interlude before all get back to the grind of working for the next growing season.

    Once the celebratory days are past, the idol is symbolically and with honour sent back to the celestial abode of her husband, Lord Shiva, by the act of immersing in water. This seems more aesthetic than burning or smashing the idol created.

    I do understand how difficult is is for you to comprehend that the hands should be used to make and dress up idols, play music and beat drums etc, but you have to understand that the arms and hands are not to be used only for caravan-raiding, piercing hot metal in captive’s eyes, chopping fingers or necks of prisoners, slitting the neck of a mother breast-feeding her infant etc etc.

    Celebrations are in order not only to mark a new marriage or for slave-capturing. To you these latter examples are just what are meant to be done with your arms and hands.

    I am passing no judgement on the elevated state of consciousness you dwell in, You have never even wondered what tragedy made some ancestor of yours to kiss the feet of marauding invaders and become a pseudo-arab. You probably delude yourself in believing you are an appendage of the Quraish tribe or Persian or Turko-Asian ancestry.

    Many thanks for cautioning me of the day of judgement and about Allah. If you are referring to the same Allah that “spoke” to your “most exalted human ever” that the earth is laid out as a carpet and the mountains are placed to hold (the earth ) firm, or that the sun settles each evening under the throne of that Almighty, only to begin its journey on command from Allah…. (i can go on and on and on)…. then, i have to dismiss your “threats” as patently hollow and mischievous.

    Any entity/person that demands respect on basis of ignorance and threats is no different from a street-side gangster or hoodlum.

    peace Reply:

    Bong brother, these are no threats! just mere warnings and conveying the message. Anyway, your punishment will start from this world, one day angels of death will appear before you and your own relatives will set you on fire i mean on pyre!!
    May allah guide you.

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @peace, devoid of substance and logic, you are doing exactly what all other Islamic-nutheads do, prompted by your “most exalted human ever”…to curse! While fountain-heads of other religions as Chr1st or Buddh@ or Swami Vivekananda blessed all people..believers or non-believers; your fountain-head is on record to curse dogs, pigs, even entire tribes of humans. Following in his wake, you have resorted to “cursing” ; why, because you cannot marshal any ‘lies” or honest facts to second your debased ideology of ignorance wrapped in terror.
    Death is certain, not only for all living creatures, even for planets, universes and constellations. In our world view, death is release from the misery of this life and in this birth, the “holocaust” on Hindus by a very brutal band of ignorant supremacists and their remnants, as yourself and your ilk has been a very painful realization.

    Please clean up the mirror of your perception and please desist from “cursing” there is a saying in the Bengali language: The cow does not die on curses from the vultures”.

  • Aaloke

    Dear Sumit Bose,

    Very good and articulate comments and replies. But who are you engaging? These creatures are Islamic zombies. They have no independent brain . You will never be able to make them see light even after so much articulation. However I request you to continue writing as it is read by many other people who have brains to understand.

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  • vinayak purohit

    appreciate Mr. Shinde;s dare to statement,
    he honestly projected the RSS and her outfits. The BJP’s objection to
    this subject is baseless. Is the Home Minister addressed to BJP or to
    the all Indians. Is Mr. Shinde have gone to the media and have spoken
    to media and told that, the RSS and BJP running Training the terrorist
    camp. Is he said this in the public meeting? Is he gave an interview or
    spoke to any news channel regarding the subject. No he has spoken to his
    party people and kept the grave realities and challenges ahead in
    front of them in a process of introspect the realities, dangers, task
    and target party going to face. This is the meeting of Chintan Shivir a
    purely congress meeting. The congress party doing the Chintan Shivir –
    introspection of their party, a sincere examination of their thoughts,
    feelings, self reflection and external observation in broad spectrum.
    The party examining and designing the real devils with whom they have to
    deal and interact. They are discussing the challenges the nation is
    facing, the country India is facing. They are discussing real facts,
    observation and findings.They
    have been doing self examination to stand against all task and targets
    to achieve the objectives for the well being, growth, progress and
    development of nation and the country internally and externally. Under
    such discussion a home minister of the country senior leader of Congress
    Party expressed his views and facts in front of their party members.
    Discussed the real threat to the nation as whole and presented his
    fact-findings to his colleagues and fellow workers of congress party to
    coup up the situation. Such practices have been happening in every organization and in every party.
    Mr.
    Shinde rightly presented and expressed his views. It is the fault of
    the media which hyped and so much projected that which gave the other
    people take advantage and comment.

    When
    I told media should have the common sense what to say and what not to
    say. It is not that our media is irresponsible. Many news which are more
    important for the betterment of the nation and specially for a section,
    the media never projected and never discussed and even presented and
    talked about it. Media is responsible and some time dance to the tune of
    their masters to please them. The BJP’s new elected president has no
    qualities except to follow the dictates of the RSS. His
    capacity and qualification feed by the mother organization. He grew
    with this ideology. So created a platform for him and highlighted such
    news and give him a card to start and play his game. The only idea to
    encourage hatred against Pakistan and Muslims to unite the Hindu vote
    bank. The RSS already hinted about raising the issue of Ram Mandir. Ms
    Uma Bharati already told that the issue of RSS-BJP camps training the
    terrorist is not big issue and it will not harm us. It is true that, it
    is not new allegations for RSS the mother of party of the BJP, VHP,
    Bajrang Dal and other outfits. The training of terrorist and using these
    terrorist to terrorize minorities and Hindus is already proved. This is
    well known fact that RSS training Hindus all over India. The recently
    there was 60,000 Hindu trainees camp in the Guntur Andhra Pradesh. The
    murder of the Mahatama Gandhi is the most proved fact. There were
    thousands of riots in India.
    Where ever the commission set-up or inquiry carried out it is proved
    that the Sagh Parivar involved and they were at the fore front to kill,
    destroy minorities. These practice to terrorize the minorities and
    suppress and destroy their progress, growth and development. First we
    have to understand what is Sangh Parivar means. The Sangh Parivar’s main
    organization is Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh ( RSS ) which comprised or
    having many sub organizations such as BJP, VHP, Bajrang Dal, Hindu
    Jagran Manch and others. All the workers aligned to RSS full time, part
    time or with ideology. The RSS and other party workers trustworthy and
    never ever lost their identity. With due responsibilities they may leave
    parent body and join other off-shoot or start new organization and
    establish any religious property like Ashram and Temples. They move as
    per the party planned and carried-out the delegated responsibilities.
    The main party RSS
    members can work for VHP or for BJP. The current president of BJP
    Rajnath Sing joined RSS at the age of thirteen. Since then he was
    trained in all level. He is permanent member and now working for the
    BJP. They name sake separate but clubbed together. So, BJP has no
    separate entity or identity. If Mr. Shinde call BJP or RSS or
    VHP that’s make no difference.

    In
    Gujarat Genocide of Muslims, according to the Human Right Watch the
    groups most directly involved in killing man, women and children and
    destroying homes and raping women, which includes RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dl,
    BJP. The name of RSS, VHP, Bajrang
    Dal
    and BJP clearly mentioned for their participation, instigation
    and violence. Even their leader got convicted. Is it killing innocent is
    not terrorism. This is not the work of training has
    been conducting in RSS training camps all over the India. The RSS-
    Sangh Parivar named in many commission and inquiries. They called it
    self defense. But majority of the riots or you could call them Muslims
    genocide was the pre-planned work of the Sangh Parivar.
    One
    more example in Marad riots in Kerala, they arrested 86 Hindu people,
    they were identified as RSS-BJP and Bajrang Dal members. If Mr. Shinde
    call BJP or RSS whats wrong with this? Even P.V.Narshimah Rao and
    Y.B.Chavan both were the culprit of the Babri Masjid demolation were
    the member of Indian Congress but were the members of RSS. Many people
    says India Hindu state but the they keep secular identity for
    international gains but contrary they created Sangh Parivar as semi
    government organization. They created this Sangh Parivar to suppress
    minorities and also Backward, Schedule Castes( SC) Schedule Tribe ( ST)
    and Dalit
    Hindus at the corner and keep them as second class or third class
    citizen of India. The Sangh Parivar all support from the agencies and
    they scout free in all cases since decades. The Indian Government
    Makhota ( Face-Mask ) is secular but they practiced like Hindu State.
    This Makhota for international representation.

    Lastly,
    the all tall and big leaders of Sangh Parivar even BJP stand with all
    Terrorist they belong to Hindu Organizations. They involved in terror
    bomb blast attack in Malegaon, Samjhota Express, Ajmer and Mecca Masjid.
    The top leaders visited and met with the Sadhvi and other culprits.
    Even current BJP president, Rajnath Singh, Shiv Raj Singh Chauhan, Uma
    Bharati visited them, met them and also represented them. They also give
    statements which directly and indirectly effect their investigation.
    There is also a RTI pending with Maharashtra
    Government that regarding an query about ex- ATS chief K.P. Raghuvanshi
    sent 200 workers to colonel Purohit for training. The RTI seek
    information about these two hundred people and to know who are they? it
    was rumor or truth I do not know but there was news the RSS and other
    outfits warned and asked him to face great consequences because Hemant
    Karkare who was investigated the case of Malegaon and had disclosed the
    involvement of Hindu Terrorist. But unfortunate murder of Hemant
    Karkare silence many hidden truths which is curtailed heinous face of
    this conspiracies. With all these facts the BJP’s agitation against the
    Mr. Shinde’s statement may be back-fire

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  • Faulitics

    Next article from Zia will be “Egypt 2012, a poem” where he will praise the righteous nature of the Muslim brotherhood and how they islamic ally won “freedom” for Egypt from the “Zionist oppresser” Mubarak . Haha..One thing I am sure of is there won’t be one word about his ummah “brothers” turning into tools of the jaya amma government against an actor, one of the few who really worked to be called an “actor”.

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  • Faulitics

    “Islam” writer is being too quiet. Has he become lazy? So many things to write like the wonderful life of Owaisi brothers but I am getting the feeling that the next article be a rant on Modi regarding his Delhi move. No Viswaroopan related or the patriotic Owaisi brothers story can be expected.

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  • arsalan

    Nice article.. Even though m a Pakistani.. i would applause your conclusion.. but I am sure this will not be the real conclusion. Rwp will again gain control of Kabull.. wait n c

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  • Raheem

    what have palestinians or any arab for that matter ever done for the victims of the BJP in Gujarat?

    Grow up zia and smell the hindutva excrement write large on all minorities in India

    Forget palestine and worry about protecting your own lives and honour.

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