Is shariah then the right thing for rapists?



Throughout history, crime and punishment have gone hand in hand. Protesters in Delhi, infuriated by a grotesque gang rape of a 23-year-old girl, have demanded the death penalty for such offenders, which was first publicly raised by BJP leader LK Advani many years ago.

To me, such a demand sounded astonishing because it seemed a call for a shariah-like punishment by another name.

At a time when, generally, there has been a drift away from death penalties in liberal democracies and vehement denouncement of shariah, calls for a greater degree of application of the ultimate punishment proves that when horrendous crimes jolt a society’s collective conscience, people want serious punishments meted out.

The punishment for rape in Islam is same as that for zina, or sex outside marriage, which is death by stoning if the offender is married, and 100 lashes if he is not. Modern death penalties may not be handed out as drastically as stoning, but whatever the means, the goal of a death penalty is death.

Shariah duties are broadly divided into those that a believer owes to Allah and those that relates to behaviour in society. It is the latter set of duties that constitutes the domain of modern law.

The objectives of shariah punishment are both reform (as in the case of 100 lashes) and retribution (as in death penalty). Deterrence is the third dimension. I am neither suggesting taking a leaf out of shariah nor suggesting that death penalty will be a guaranteed deterrent for potential rapists.

A state of law and order requires both respect and fear of law. Delhi has neither. Perhaps, it is because of legacies of a feudal society. Perhaps, it is the result of largescale migration from other states. Whatever the case, the brazenness of some recent crimes suggests some drastic measures in selective cases are required. A greater application of the death penalty may be one of them. None of this is to discount the role of crime prevention, which to a large extent, is singularly a policing function.

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  • Raj

    Death is the least kind of punishment for such crimes. Those criminals should not be allowed to escape so fast. Instead, they should be given a severe punishment by castrating their genitals and they should be allowed to live the rest of their lives that way.

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  • Muhammad

    Mr.Haq long-time by reading your pro- terrorist and Islamic I had indeed doubt about your veiled Zeehadi bent, taking full advantage of liberal Hindu democratic values and our society, and by knowing Hindu sounding names(they may be even newly convert to Islam)do not try to push your closeted Islamic agenda. Out of 1.2 billions this is one incident deserved the full scrutiny of the psyche why these animals did what they did and how they influenced by such copy book style Islamic barbarity,like sticking ,mutilating private parts(Saurabh Kalia),be-heading,chopping off limbs etc. In Pakistan and Afghanistan follows Sharia,does these fully Islamic countries able to stop cruelty against women which includes barbaric use of force in raping a woman or a young boy? On the contrary, the latest Times magazine covers put the picture of an Afghan Girl whose nose was chopped and acid was thrown on her face because she refused to have sex with her husband. In another recent incident two young girls in Afghanisthan denied the sexual advancement of the two Afghans, they were taken to an isolated place and be-headed. As a Muslim you know fully that your security is fully protected by the majority tax(Hindus) payers money, so you can have the indulgence of such awful Islamic laws which the innocent people are suffering in countries like Sudan and Nigeria. We Hindus are civiled society and it has benn proved through our contribution to civilisation and building human capital through out 7000 years of our existence unlike the 1000 years of barbaric rule of Islam when the millions were killed and the Hindu temples ,Nalanda , Taxsilla,place of ;earnings were destroyed to establish just like your present suggestions of implementing of Islamic barbaric rule guided by Sharia.. We Hindus do not need your zeehadi suggestions to push India towards Isalmic nation like Paksitan or Afghnisthan. Before suggesting such awful barbaric Isalmic law, you should go and live in Pakistan or in Afghanistan and try to understand the Sharia not here in 90% Hindu majority country. This thing happening because of lack of governance and corruption by the rulling of the present UPA governmnet which is supported by the Muslim community. If we take the example of good Goverance , we must take few pages from the adminstrative and governance skill of Mr, Modi and you will see for the past few years there are no violations against women like rapes,kidnapping in Gujarat,only ramoant in UP, Delhi and other Congress and Muslim appeasing vote bank influenced regional political parties like Mulayam etc. So we only need to work good governance to vote for Narendra Modi in up coming 2014 election.

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    Anita Reply:

    There you go another Modtiva troll ranting about eeevvviiiillll Moozzleems.

    I am sick and tired of reading your comments, go get a brain and write offtopic comments otherwise don’t write comments.

    And Newsportals like Hindutantimes showed be sued under IPC for allowing such comments to be published. They don’t have any moderators or if they do, they are not doing their job right.

    Only a few papers like The Hindu moderate comments before filth like above gets published

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    Muhammad Reply:

    I am sick and tried to seeing Muslim women under veil like you who is supporting Sharia inadvertently, taking full advantage living in a liberal Indian society.. Should have been pushed back to Afghanistan or Pakistan to see how things are there,how Sharia is protecting women’s honor may be throwing few gallons of acid or chopping off their body parts. Few months back 2 years old Hindu girl was raped by a 20 years old Muslim guy because the family refused to convert to Islam. The girl’s family got political asylum in Canada. Shame to Muslim appeasing UPA Government to ignore such barbaric act and not offering her shelter in India. If you have any brain, I am sure you don’t have then you could have understood what is the implication of such motivated article to push the Islamic agenda like one is on the offing. And please don’t allow your stupidity further in trying the legality of the content of the open portal like suing HinduthanTImes under IPC. Get brain stupid woman all these are in the open media and in U tube, well when you are blinded wearing veil you only see the horror…. of Modi, nothing else. This type of heinous act is only possible where there is complete absence of Law and order and lack of any governance, that is exactly happening in most of the UPA ruled states.. That is why it is high time that you and your multiplying worthless community people should go back to your original Sharia ruled country like Afghanistan and Pakistan where you guys even see black eyed 72 virgins who would open the gate to Heaven.

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    Brown American Reply:

    Sharia may not be bad for India. India had much less crime against Woman when it was ruled by Muslims. A fact that your hatred and fake name can not deny either.

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    Sudhir Mehta Reply:

    Muslims are barbarians and can not be ever come back to power
    In united Hindustan. The rapist will be tried under provisions of laws and punished properly.

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    engrich Reply:

    Muslims are barbarians and can not be ever come back to power
    muslim made india.tell me any of your achievent.

    kanishka Reply:

    Muslims unmade India. Nehru remade India in 1947.

    Tell me which Islamic country is considered a civilized nation?

    engrich Reply:

    The rapist will be tried under provisions of laws and punished properly.
    he will be given bail 2000 gurantee.

    Gladtide Reply:

    u nomad doughtier rapists, muslims rulers built magnificent monuments, roads, markets and cities,,,In united currptstan there is no place for justice!!!

    Faulitics Reply:

    Sharia is product of a society of Bedouins of very limited intellect. That’s why the punishment part of sharia is barbaric. Not fit for any society in modern times but looks like arabization prevents people from you in criticizing uncivilized barbaric systems like sharia because as a empty vessel, arabization had filled up your mind with taboos.

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    Muhammad Reply:

    Yeah, sounds like slum educated or may I say you got your PHD from Madrassah education in history. During Barbaric 1000 years of Islamic rule the population of India was only 250 mil or less. I*nspite of that, Muslim invaders targeted and kidnapped Hindu women and raping and converting them en mass in to Islam. This was rampant as Koran recommended the kafir women as the prized properties. Look at the era of Mugal emperors and their Harem, most of the Hindu women were forcibly raped and converted and then put in to Harem. In Rajasatan Hindu women participated in “Jahar Brata” to save their honours from the Muslim invaders by jumping in to fire and self immolated them. These are well documented. We need to rewrite the history , all the zeehadi funded, half educated Mdrssaha propaganda Muslim history needs to be scarped. The Muslim in post independence tried very hard to dilute the barbarity they did to Hindu women and all other destructive crime against Hindus and to peaceful Hindu India including burning down all the major Universities (Nalanda, Taxseela etc.)which had sizeable collections of treasured documents and all the narratives of Islamic horror needs to be rewritten.During Independence only Nokahali, and inn hundreds of districts in Bangladesh can pale any historically documented genocides in the modern times, specailly aginst the Hindu women. So just shut up and feel free to go back to your sarah zaha se Accha”paksitan hamara”.

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    engrich Reply:

    all budhdhist temple in india were destroyed by brhmns.brhmns were taking help of rulers to finish budhhdists and jainese in india,now they are doing same with muslims.hate is ur duty and lie staple food.all glittering temples were built during muslim rule.

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    kanishka Reply:

    Hey Taqiyyebaaz, stop spreading lies and twisting the history.

    In 1193, the Nalanda University located in Eastern India was sacked by an Islamic fanatic Bakhtiyar Khilji; this event is seen by scholars as a late milestone in the decline of Buddhism in India. Khilji is said to have asked if there was a copy of the Koran at Nalanda before he sacked it in fire.

    “The Persian historian Minhaj-i-Siraj, in his chronicle the Tabaquat-I-Nasiri, reported that thousands of monks were burned alive and thousands beheaded later as Khilji tried his best to uproot Buddhism and plant Islam by the sword in that part of India; the burning of the library continued for several months and the “smoke from the burning manuscripts hung for days like a dark pall over the low hills.”

    Do you want me to write about Takhshila (Taxila), the second seat of Buddhism and the oldest university of the universe, now in Pakistan?

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    ehgrich Reply:

    In 1193, the Nalanda University located in Eastern India was sacked by an Islamic fanatic Bakhtiyar Khilj

    now brhmns are using state machinary to kill muslims those days they were using state power to finish budhdhists.ayodhya prayag kashi were all built by budhdhist.after their defeat they were converted into vedic teples.nalanda was very dangerous for vedics as budhdhism teaches equality.which is nemesis of hinduism.
    u people are expert liars and twist the history.vedic temples of those days are still standing in nalanda.brhmns were the chief advisors of muslim rulers.they were the mind of state.

    ehgrich Reply:

    that thousands of monks were burned alive

    burning alive is hindu art of killing people.before arrival of muslims in india also brhmns physically liqyidated budhdhists in same manner.nalanda operation was taken at behest of brhmn advisors of ruler.TELL ME ANYWHERE BRHMNS CONDEMNED THIS ACTION.
    PLS GIVE ME THE NAME OF ONE UNIVERSITY,ROAD OR HOSPITAL BUILT BY VEDICS DURING THEIR 3000 YEAR RULE..
    ADMI KO JAHIL RAKHTE THE AUR BHAGWAN BECHTE THE.
    VEDIC PERIOD IS THE DARKEST PERIOD OF INDIAN HISTORY.

    Sha Reply:

    Burning alive is forbidden in Islam. If someone did that then he was not Muslim but a Hindu by Muslim name. So again u burned Nalanda not Muslims.

    Roy Reply:

    @ sha.. few days ago a person was burnt alive in Pakistan as fanatic mass thought he has burnt Quran.

    Roy Reply:

    @ sha.. few days ago a person was burnt alive in Pakistan as fanatic mass thought he has burnt Quran.

    Muhammad Reply:

    These are Mdrsaaha propaganda.Please provide the list of the Budhhist temples that are destroyed by the Hindus, if you can’t then you will see….as Muslim you are doing your job is to practice”Taqiyya”, How pathetic a religion permitting it’s followers to lie. And is that the Budhiist told the Mugals to take the revenge on Hindus ? You people are shameless liars. Don’t worry whole world’ thanks to U-tubes, facebook, twitter etc’ unveiling the true face of Islam and it’s lies. Be iby Gerrald wilders, or Ayaan Hirsi Ali, or the movie “innocence of Muslim”‘ Islam is going to be thrown in to the history of garbage with all it’s barbarity against the humanity and it’s lies.

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    engric Reply:

    These are Mdrsaaha propaganda.Please provide the list of the Budhhist
    temples that are destroyed by the Hindus, if you can’t then you will see

    budhdhist ruled india for 1000years.this was golden period.u will find budhdhists in surroundings not in the main land.TELL ME WHERE AYODHYA IS MENTIONED IN YOUR HOLY SCRIPTURES.chinese visitorsmentioned this city as budhdhist settlement with name saket.

    Sha Reply:

    According to the John Ankerberg show, 68,000 people accept Islam every 24 hours. Fastest growing religion in the world.

    “(Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods) and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures.”

    [Bhagavad Gita 7:20]

    Read ur own Gita and demolish ur own temples of Demigods.

    Stupid brainwashed people. U have no right to be called Hindu. Muslims practice Sanatan Dharma. U don’t Muslims r true Arya Dherme. Read Bhavishya Purana it clearly mentions that Muslims will establish Sanatan Dherma. U r Asuras creating mischif in the land. Just look at ur selves drinking alcohol and raping women. Is that Arya Dherma?Raksha!

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @Sha, you are the ultimate “taqqiyya”. This one takes the cake and the packaging! “muslims are true Arya Dharme” This one is classic. What a way to wriggle out of a brutal demented belief structure! Sha, you have no option but to take pride in the rantings and opinions of a pedophi1e, necrophile, caravan-bandit, torturer, mass-murderer, slave-merchant. No “taqqiyya-giri” can get you out of that! Wallow in it nad be prepared to get your 9 year daughter to get married to a 53 year old pervert.

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @Sha, that is the natural rate of multiplication of Muslims. Yasser Arafat tom tommed that so correctly, the weapon of the Muslims is “the Bomb and the Womb”.
    eg: Osama Bin Laden’s father had 53 children, OBL had 27, and so it goes on.
    Muslims know that they cannot ever do anything in the knowledge sector, just multiply like insects to make your presence and ignorance known.

    Hindu Athiest Reply:

    Muslims are really innocent…they wont rape ..they wont steal…they wont lie…what a joke…their religion teaches them to deceit non believers..its a virus ..future looks dark…if we dont act now..Atleast hinduism dont teach to kill,cheat non believers…

    engrich Reply:

    We Hindus are civiled society and it has benn proved through our contribution to civilisation

    under vedic rule doors of education were closed to non brhmns and women.even ur god of knowledge swarasti is illetrate.u people are expert liars.
    muslims will kick u bstrd out of indian political scene soon.

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    momn doter Reply:

    You may be a muslim, but you definitely are not Indian. Hi ****.

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    engrich Reply:

    ashoka built 60000 budhdhist temples in orrisa.all were destroyed by brhmns and monks were slaughtered.budhdhist nuns were the first devdasis of vedic temples.
    creation of hindu samaj was the first major terrorist act on indian soil.committed by vedic invaders from central asia.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vedic religion came first.Buddha himself was Kshatriya.Ashoka was HIndu before converting to Buddhism.

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    panchen lama. Reply:

    yes but in between india remained under budhdhism.that was golden period.again vedic came and darkness started.

    Malik Reply:

    Now the very monks are killing Muslims in Burma and Sri Lanka!!!!

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    ANIL KUMAR Reply:

    Styop peddling lies buddhism lost to hinduims due to shahstrarth campaing of Shakracharya, IF hindus were blood thirsty then Buddhism wud never have gained asendancy in first place.. Killing for religion is preserves of jews/chrstians/muslims.. Hindus have long tradition of shastrarth. India is secular because it’s hindu majority we know how things are done in only muslim majority state in Idnia Kashmir. there is cry fo Nizam-e-mustafa

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    Sha Reply:

    None of the examples u quoted r Islamic sharia law. U have no knowledge of the subject and u r merely quoting half baked truth from media our of hatred for Muslims. What u term barbaric is for criminals only and what ur laws r doing is punishing the helpless everyday this is not a single gang rape. Go read the stats of rapes and murders in India. Look at Saudi. Few people get exemplary punishment and majority of innocent sleep peacefully. Punishing criminal is not barbaric punishing innocent in the name of humanity for criminal is barbaric. Hating set of people without knowing the truth is barbaric. U sir r barbaric.U take sides of Mass murderer Modi who sanctioned the killing of unborn babies in their wombs. And u talk of Humanity. Its a joke. U r joke. A shameless inhuman joke. No different then those committed that horrible crime of rape.

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    Ehsan Reply:

    abey Ch**ye pehle tujhe ye pta hona chahiye k sharia law na pakistan mein hai na Afghanistan.

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    Kaffir Reply:

    Send these pigs to where they belong…Pakistan ya Afghanistan

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    rajshekhar Reply:

    3000 years of vedic period was the darkest period of indian history.doors of schoolsand knowledge were closed to 99.5%of indians.
    logon ko jahil rakh ke bhawan bechte the.gareebon ka khoon chste the.yahee tumhara karnama tha.
    u people are curse for india.

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    concerned indian Reply:

    wow seriously ..more word count that the article itself.. chiill out man.

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  • KANISHKA

    Finally, you showed your true green color.

    You like SARIA, take it as much you can;

    We like MODI, we will bring him in 2014

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    ehgrich Reply:

    modi is criminal.he will pay for his deed.india is country of idiots semi literates can survive only here.

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    kanishka Reply:

    ….and you Taqqiyebaz, are lucky to survive in India.

    There is something called the Supreme Court of India which have declared there is no evidence against Modi in 2002 Communal riots instigated by Muslims by burning 58 Hindus in a train near Godhra.

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    engrich Reply:

    first major riot was instigated by rss in ahmadabad 1969.since then they have repeated this performance 20 times.modi jamoura hai.kam to nagpur se hota.around 50000 plus muslims were mascared no one is punished.in hindu legal system killing of shudras carry no punishment.jafri with 69 innocents was burnt alive in broad day light.he made 200 calls to modi.but modi is innocent.he is holy cow.

    engrich Reply:

    compartment was burnt by agents of vhp to provide reason for riot.why muslim will fire.fire was started from inside.wrong and bullshit

    Muhammad Reply:

    Muslim Kutta ,Koran is copied from Jewish Al-Torah and old Testament. Muhammad did not understand the intellectual part that is Kabalah so he made his own feeling and sexual fantasies with six year old bride and other 61 women put them to follow to the brain dead Muslim. It is the doctrine of Muhammads sexual fanatacies when used to have hard drink and pork how he himself pleasure himself. See the film “innocence of Muslim”. How pathetic and sex pervert was your prophet was. Besides, your religion permits sex with animals according to Goggle Pakistan has the highest goggled survey on sex with animals. Only Islam permits that. In Afghanistan the Afghan society allows sex with young boys called “Bacca Bazi”, this tradition was copied from the Beduin and Arab nomad and now indoctrinated in Islam. Then there was another form of temporary sex that is called MOTA. Which means a man and women can have sex temporarily, and it is legal under islam. That is why in Pakistan and other Islamic society you people merry your own cousin sisters. but in Hindu society it goes by Gotra. Genetic read of ancestors. marriage is done through a cross genetic read. You Muslim are filthy and still follow the 8th century cave religion that is why in America and UK and in Denmark they are stopping Muslim immigration completely. In spite of that millions of Muslim wanted to come to this country because all other 53 Islamic countries produce large scale donkey brain people.They are unable to produce a single engineer or doctor or a PHD or a Noble l orate, all they produce is Madrssah educated stupid morons like we are seeing here who think that all the science in the world is written in the koran. (Thts is why US marines peeed on them) Get out of India you Mussalman Kutta otherwiise we create 1000 timers Gujarat in every state.Remember.

    engrich Reply:

    uslim Kutta ,Koran is copied from Jewish Al-Torah and old Testament

    i will say u are an idot.holy quran and torah are totally oppose each other.in holy quran everybody is equal.

    engrich Reply:

    Get out of India you Mussalman Kutta otherwiise we create 1000 timers Gujarat in every state.Remember.

    u are absolutely mad idiot and ill informed person.u can do nothing except killing hapless defenseless indians.soon u will be kicked out of india.

    Biswajit Saikia Reply:

    dont 4get ur hindu brothers are all over world in small quantity, so u’ll get back from those countries. Tell me if u want to get ur brothers get kick out from those countries

    Biswajit Saikia Reply:

    it was done by hindus only………..it ws the politics of NAMO, to kill muslims as he want too which he did, according to his religion which mention to kill ppl from other religion, u hammer head train coach caught fire frm inside

    shankar Reply:

    If india is a country of idiots, u can move to any wise country that u think will accept an idiot like u

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    engrich Reply:

    why not to correct u donkeys.we are part of india like u.

  • KANISHKA

    When tolerant and democratic non-Muslim societies give in to the Muslim religious privileges, many of their toxic anti-non-Muslim components creep in exponentially as their population grows as explained below:

    -Muslims up to 5% of the population (Australia, Canada, Denmark, Germany, Italy, Norway, Spain, Sweden, UK, USA) stay as segregated minority, start Mosque construction, use oil money to influence liberal Journalists for public relations and open Islamic Study Chairs in major universities, proselytize from vulnerable groups, clog streets with open-air congregationary rug prayers, develop sleeper cells for future Jehad;

    -Muslims 5 to 10% (France, Kenya, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland) push for those Islamic believes that are in conflict with the values & tradition of
    diverse societies, ask breaks on jobs for 5-times prayers, establish madrasa
    education, display of veil by their females, demand to rule themselves by
    Saria; They quickly learnt to use, misuse and abuse the freedoms granted to citizens in free and democratic countries to spread vitriol, virulent indoctrination and hate against their non-Muslim hosts, the kafirs, among who they freely chose to migrate and get citizenship through various guiles.

    -Muslims 10 to 25% (Burma, Cyprus, INDIA, Israel, Philippines, Russia, Serbia, Thailand) tend to increase lawlessness and chaos such as mob violence after Friday Sermons for alleged blasphemy or Koran burning by destroying national monuments in India and car-burnings in France. Many actions of native non-Muslims population in full compliance with their own culture, constitution and traditions of freedom of speech will offend Islam resulting in uprisings such as opposition to Mohammad cartoons or veil in public, post false blogs using non-Muslim on-line names, force partition of countries, create mayhem by terror and ethnic cleansing, keep their daughters confined while seducing young non-Muslim girls to marry and forcing conversion, shelter illegal Muslims migrants from all over the world and breed more to increase Muslim population ratio;

    -Muslims 25% to 90% – Once the population of Muslims reaches 25%, forced conversions, hair-trigging riots and ethnic cleansing will start to ensure that the figure reaches 95%. As long as the figure is fewer than 25% the only ways to increase Muslim population are illegal immigration, conversion of poor and illiterates, and high birth rates like rabbits; with the exception of few countries such as NIGERIA (always in turmoil despite huge oil), there are very few countries in the world where the population of Muslims is between 25% and 90%. Indonesia and Malaysia are examples of countries that have seen rapid Islamisation and discrimination of minorities in recent decades.

    -Muslims from 90 to 99% (Albania, Azerbaijan, Algeria, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bosnia, Chad, Chechnya, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kosovo, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Pakistan, Qatar, Sudan, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Turkey, Uzbekistan, West Bank) notice violent jihad, face hair-trigger riots as in Syria, jihad lashkars, unfettered persecution of non-Muslims, use Zakat of funds to spread Islam and terror, target killings, sporadic ethnic cleansing, death for conversion (apostasy and proselytizing), Rule by Saria, start of conspiracy theory, subdue and impose Jizya tax on non-Muslims only, military coups, dictatorships, disappearances of dissidents, enforcement of dreaded Blasphemy Law, start of genocide to drive infidels out with frenzy to make 100% Muslim state;

    -100% Muslim population (Afghanistan, GAZA, Libya, Maldives, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Yemen) should usher Darul-Islam, the Islamic world of Peace; here everybody is a Muslim, Madarasa their schools, Mullah their intellectuals and Koran is the only word. Unfortunately, peace in Islam is a mirage as it can NEVER be achieved, even in 100% Muslim states. By then the entire society becomes radicalized and more-radicalized Cr@zy Muslims intimidate, spread hatred thru network media by morphed pictures, spew venom and satisfy their bl@@d-lust by killing less-radicalized Muslims such as Sunnis killing Shias in Pakistan and Arab world. Worst, the Islamic state becomes either a brutal Islamic Sheikhdom as Saudi Arab with free oil money or a terrorist state like Pakistan using terrorism as the state policy with nuclear bomb in the control of genocidal army or a Somalia, the nation of pirates, all claiming to follow the guidance emanating from the same source, KORAN and SARIA.

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    engrich Reply:

    hindu is the only religion where man is born uneven.hinuism is mother of fascism nazism and apartheism..remaining all written above is bullshit and wrong.
    geeta is hate manual where castes were created by ur love god krishna.who had 1603 wives, also had intimate relationship with neighbour wife called radha.

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    kanishka Reply:

    Taqqiyebaz,

    Muslims continue to teach their children intolerance and murderous hate towards those who think different. They teach their people that
    LIFE BEGINS AFTER DEATH, and that life can be immeasurably improved after death by killing a few non-muslims (Kafirs, Jews, Shias or Ahmadiyas) quoting the source as CORAN..

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    engrich Reply:

    it is only a rumour.neither it is writtenanywhere in holy quran nor we teach our sons anything like this.rss(rumour spreading society)spreads all these stupidities.

    Hindu Athiest Reply:

    Hinduism is not perfect but not as bad as Islam…infact no other religion is as more violent and barbaric as islam…Muslim people are good like any other people …But brainwashed by Islam…they can be evil…As long as they dont read khoran.they will be peaceful..Khoran is the manifestation of evil…sorry if i am rude but think about it…Muslim people are as innocent as any other people..but isalm is evil..think about it.

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    engrich Reply:

    yeh tape main 20 bar padh chuka hoon.

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    kanishka Reply:

    …and still your jehadi mind can’t rebutt with logic what I wrote above.

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @kanishka, it is such a futile wasted effort to make any Islamic nuthead see any reason.
    “kutte ka dhum, sau saal seedhi naali meh rakhkar nikala, toh dhum thedi ki thedi hi rahegi.
    These Indian converts in a total denial mode, they do not want to admit that it was one of their ancestors who was brutalized into “honouring himself” by submitting to Islam of the muslim conquers, and have created this inverted myth of Brahminical “oppression” to deflect from the capitulation of their own ancestor and the vapidness of a fake Arabic identity, only to get “kicked” by the Arabs.
    Sadly, their ancestor had no choice, but, this dimwit has no brains., and whatever is there is only with a Don Quixotic hate of the Brahmins. Engrich Mia, i am not a Brahmin, but if i have any issues with Brahmins, i would like to resolve it as an Indian, I wont wear the garb of a Pseudo-Arab to pick issues with a Brahmin.

    rahmat Reply:

    tum gadhon ko sivaye hafiz saeed aur daood ibrahim ke ata kya hai.
    bose hinduism is mother of apartheism.conversion is liberation even mnroy and vivekanand gave call to suppressed to india to embrass islam.
    you are kayasth means that u are illegetimate offpring of brhmns.u bstrds are talking big.

    21 century mein cow and penis par apna sar patakne wale humko ratsa dikhate ho.
    u people are gang of idiots.nothing more.
    sharia will chage india.

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @rahmat, a very interesting “Freudian slip”! 1slam cannot be “embrassed” anymore, than by its own intrinsic vacuousness. My simple suggestion to any of these fired up 1slamic nutheads is to read the texts in a language that you can reflect upon the stupidity contained within, leave aside the mountains of absoloute balderdash and brutality proscribed as the path to attain 72 virgins, 23 pre-puberty boys and 80,000 servants.
    One is wary of the power of the sharia, right from Morocco to Malaysia, we have enough of Nobel prize Laureates, progresses in sciences, technologies and culture to want that to be set upon other sections of humanity. I cannot agree more with you when you say “Sharia will change India”; India will sink southwards as Pakistan and Bangladesh are scraping the lower depths of the barrel.

    engrich Reply:

    when india was running under sharia,our gdp was 25%of world and literacy 93%of world..till rennainace muslims were leaders in knowledge all over the world.oxford and cambridge were started with books written by muslims of spain.iran is under sharia,now they can capture most advance american drones.

    in last 200 years we were static so was everybody including u people.brhmnsm is crushing india and finishing whatever mental progress we attained during british and muslim period.

    1001 innovative inventions from coffe to camera weremade by muslim scientists.u are expert in manufacturing bhagwans only,.

    before writing any bullshit,remember that u kayasths are illegetimate off spring of brhmns.harami ka sar neeche hona chahiye.u people base ur assesment on propaganda literature.read something of standard then come and argue.

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @Engrich, I dont know how many times I have marshalled facts on your face about India having 23% of the world’s GDP under Akbar’s rule. I shall repeat it once again.
    Todar Mal was Akbar’s finance minister and he introduced taxation at 33% of output, For Indians , reeling under the centuries rule of brutal brigands of the Slave Dynasties, this was a long awaited relief from punitive and humiliating taxation of 70% imposed by the brutes of the Slave dynasties.
    The British calculated from the annual “homage ” paid by our Muslim overlords to the Caliphate, that India was generating 23% of the world’s GDP.
    Once Emperor Akbar rejected Islam, he stopped paying the share to the prophet’s share of a fifth of all revenue generated. (Jahangir do not pay any tithe to the Caliph,restarted by Shah Jahan)

    Do you even know what was the rate of taxation during pre-Islamic rule in India? It was only 18% and that is the secret why India’s wealth was so eye-poppingly vast.
    In the nearly 650 years of islamic rule, the brutal brigands who sodomised India, not only destroyed temples, but also the temples of education.
    Each and every learning centre was smashed, and not a single was built. That is unenviable record of those brigands whose brutality has resulted in your ancestor having no choice but to lick their feet and become a muslim.
    Today, your vision and perception is so skewed, that you cannot bear to hear or know anything outside the blinkers of puerile ignorance that your pseudo-arab personality permits. You deserve sniggers at suggesting the Moorish Andalusia as an important centre of learning, after muslims were responsible for burning down the Great Library of Alexandria that held records so many advancements of the Greek Civilization, now lost to all mankind.

    It looks as if it is a real challenge for you to absorb honest facts, being fed on dishonesty and “Taqqiyya-giri” since you were born.
    Kya kare, kutte ka dhum, thedi hi rahegi!

    engrich Reply:

    tell me name of one school university road hospital built during vedic rule.wealth was taken to temples and ashrams ,pauperising the common ma.

    remaing all is bullshit.except wars with neighbours .

    u say,……Each and every learning centre was smashed, and not a single was built

    name one.u come here to speak lie.muslimsbuilt everything good in india for indians.u brhmns were main beneficiary of state along with rajputs.
    by keeping common indian jahil u treated them far worse.moghul armies were mixture of all races caste.

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @Engrich Mian, name one university built by any of the Muslim scoundrels right from Mohammad of Ghori till Tipu Sultan , then get down to enumerating some institutions from your looong list of “every thing good”!
    Only Akbar and Jehangir’s armies were mixed, under Hindu generals, Shah Jahan onwards was a Jihadi army.

    ehgrich Reply:

    muslims built thousands of libraries and universities.alazhar was built 500 years before oxford.oxford and cambridge started as madarssa or religious seminaries books to make them scientific universities were brought from muslim spain.books were wrtten by muslims of spain.
    u are illetrate person fed on rss propaganda.read bagdad library. libraries in cordoba spain with 1 million books.
    did u ever produce anybody equal to ibn sina ,ibn rush omar khayyam etc.algebra alcohol alkaline are all arabic words.
    u are simply jahil and person full with hate.

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @Enrich mian, you not only need treatment for your pseudo-arab “identity disorder” , you also need lessons in geography…. and history!
    Alazhar is in Egypt, mate, not in India. It was Nasser who added non-religious subjects in its curriculum, having started out as a madrassa. For almost a millennium it has churned out only 1slamic-nutheads! That is quite an “education” to crow about! I asked just one name of a centre of education built and maintained by any of the Muslim scoundrels right from Mohamad of Ghori till Tipu Sultan, you have none, because all they did was to destroy and that is all they cared to do because it earned for them a stairway to the heavens to get their 72 virgins, 23 pre-puberty boys and 80,000 servants.. and unending supply of wines!

    Many thanks for your comment for branding me “illiterate” jahil, i always wished i knew more!
    I love your inverted logic of tarring any inconvenient truth as “hate”. i wish I was such a blindfolded nutcase to have half as much arrogance in my ignorance. If you were “educated”: in a madrassa, they would be thrilled to their bones with your “achievement”, and if you had studied in a secular school, they would be “ashamed:” to name you as their past-pupil!

    ENGRICH Reply:

    donkey bose,aurangzeb was ruling 25%of world with 35-40 of gdp of world.muslims made all cities and roads in indiaCOULD THEY DO IT WITHOUT EDUCATION.

    engrich Reply:

    jahil moaron when changez burnt the baghdad library water of dajla became black.

    rahmat Reply:

    The credit for organizing education on a systematic basis goes to Akbar (1542–1605), a contemporary of Queen Elizabeth I of England and undoubtedly the greatest of Mughal
    emperors. He treated all his subjects alike and opened a large number
    of schools and colleges for Muslims as well as for Hindus throughout his
    empire. He also introduced a few curricular changes, based on students’
    individual needs and the practical necessities of life. The scope of
    the curriculum was so widened as to enable every student to receive
    education according to his religion and views of life. The adoption of Persian as the court language gave further encouragement to the Hindus and the Muslims to study Persian.

    Akbar’s policy was continued by his successors Jahāngīr and Shah Jahān. But his great-grandson Aurangzeb
    (1618–1707) changed his policy with regard to the education of the
    Hindus. In April 1669, for instance, he ordered the provincial governors
    to destroy Hindu schools and temples within their jurisdiction; and, at
    the same time, he supported Muslim education with a certain religious
    fanaticism. After his death, the glory of the Mughal empire began
    gradually to vanish, and the whole country was overrun by warlords.

    During the Mughal period, girls
    received their education at home or in the house of some teacher living
    in close proximity. There were special arrangements for the education
    of the ladies of the royal household, and some of the princesses were
    distinguished scholars. Vocational education was imparted through a
    system of apprenticeship either in the house of ustāds (teachers) or in kārkhānahs (manufacturing centres).

    Muslim
    rulers of India were also great patrons of literature and gave
    considerable impetus to its development. Akbar ordered various Hindu
    classics and histories translated into Persian. In addition, a number of
    Greek and Arabic works were translated into Persian. Literary
    activities did not entirely cease even in the troubled days of later
    rulers. Men of letters were patronized by such emperors as Bahādur Shah and Muḥammad Shah and by various regional officials and landlords.

    Such
    is the history of Muslim education in India. It resembles ancient
    Indian education to a great extent: instruction was free; the relation
    between the teachers and the taught was cordial; there were great
    centres of learning; the monitorial system was used; and people were preoccupied with theology and
    the conduct of life. There were, however, several distinctive features
    of Muslim education. First, education was democratized. As in mosques, so in a maktab
    or madrasa all were equal, and the principle was established that the
    poor should also be educated. Second, Muslim rule influenced the system
    of elementary education of the Hindus, which had to accommodate itself
    to changed circumstances by adopting a new method of teaching and by
    using textbooks full of Persian terms and references to Muslim usages.
    Third, the Muslim period brought in many cultural influences from
    abroad. The courses of studies were both widened and brought under a
    humanistic influence. Finally, Muslim rule produced a cross-cultural
    influence in the country through the establishment of an educational
    system in which Hindus and Muslims could study side by side and in which
    there would be compulsory education in Persian, cultivation of Sanskrit
    and Hindi, and translation of great classics of literature into
    different languages. Ultimately, it led to the development of a common
    medium of expression, Urdu.

    Education
    in the Muslim era was not a concerted and planned activity but a
    voluntary and spontaneous growth. There was no separate administration
    of education, and state aid was sporadic and unsteady. Education was
    supported by charitable endowments and by lavish provision for the
    students in a madrasa or in a monastery.

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @Rahmat, I appreciate and value your “truthfulness” in writing the statesmanship of Akbar. It was after he let Raja Maan Singh take control of the battle against Ahmed Shah Abdali, and its ensuing victory; and the statesmanship with which Raja Maan Singh brought the smaller kingdoms under Akbar’s rule by negotiations, that Akbar began the non-partisan role he was destined to play to perfection: A nation builder!
    Because it was the first time, India had a ruler in over 4 centuries who treated all subjects equally, Akbar was very deeply into Chanakya and his Arthshastra. But, that is a facinating and large topic, when Indians felt they were equal and were assured fair taxation, peace and security. Jahangir continued Akbar’s policies unchanged, infact advanced equality to the hilt, because he was a “legal eagle”.
    However, while taxation and superficial equality were yet maintained, the Islamic agenda resurfaced with virulence during Shah Jahan’s regime.
    Had Dar Shikoh been able to defeat Aurangzeb in the tussle for the throne, the Mughal narrative would have a totally different flow. Dara was a devout Hindu and had translated the Ramayan on his own handwritten copy for his children.
    He would have held the empire with the same glue that Akbar had; but Jahan Ara’s (Shah Jahan’s daughter) curse on Aurangzeb rang true and Aurangzeb saw before his own death the empire crumbling away.
    However, that does not mask the fact that these all, right from Mohamad of Ghori till Tipu Sultan were all agents with an Islamist agenda, (with the exception of Akbar and Jahangir), they had Turkish spoken in the palaces, Persian was the court language, and they created a pigdin language called Urdu (Turkish word Ourdh= military camp).
    I would suggest you to read a very well researched and documented book called Islamic Jihad by M.A. Khan, if you are a seeker, your inner eyes will awaken. M A Khan has painstakingly translated from the recorded chronicles of Mohammad of Ghori, each of the Slave Dynasty scoundrels, Baabur (baabur namah, his own chronicles), right down to our great “Freedom Fighter” Tipu Sultan, how much brutality was borne by Indians at the behest of these scum-bags and their mercenaries.
    The legacy of that reverberates even today.

    ganesh Reply:

    ghazni and ghori did great favour to india by extracting hidden wealth from the temples and using it in infra structure projects.providing emploment to thousands of indians

    hiding the circulating wealth in temples is crime against humanity.

    engrich Reply:

    kamasutra is the only gift u people have given to world.chanakya was teacher at taxila,converted the university into military academy.after sometime place lost its importance as academic institution.
    arthshastra of kautilya and dharamshastra of manu are cruel ocyopuses eating very vitals of our society.

    THATTA HD 400 RT COLLEGES DURING MOGHUL PERIOD.
    40% OF GDP CANNOT BE GENERATED WITHOUT SOUND EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.literacy was 93% during muslim rule.

    shankar Reply:

    we built so many tombs and made lara croft’s life easier. we broke taxila and nalanda because the guru there mocked our prophet as paanchvi fail.. this is outrageous!! he was a pure illiterate and we can only marry 4 women, but not study till class 4 to get failed in class 5!!! .. we r peaceful people so we slit their throats, else we could have also done satyagraha. we built madarsas to carry our legacy. We love missiles and rocket science and therefore we make missile looking minarets everywhere.

    engrich Reply:

    LORD MACAULAY’S ADDRESS TO BRITISH PARLIAMENT 2nd FEBRUARY 1835

    “I have travelled across length and Breadth of India and I have not
    seen aperson who is a beggar who is a thief. such a wealth I have seen
    in this country, such high moral values, people of such caliber, that I
    do not think we would ever conquer this country, unless we break the
    backbone of this nation, which is her spiritual and cultural heritage,
    and, therefore, I propose that we replace her old and ancient
    educational system, her culture, for if the Indians think that all that
    is foreign and english is good and greater than their own way,they will
    lose their selfesteem, their native culture and they will become what we
    want them , a truly domintaed nation

    rahmat Reply:

    shankar krishna had 1603 wives brhma used to rape his 2 daughters swarsati and padma.ur god of knowledge swarsati is illetrate.vedic period was darkest period of indian history.taxila nalanda were built by budhhdists not hindus.destroyed by hindus.
    muslims were /are leaders in education.tum log sirf chutia bana ke bhagwan bechte ho.READ IBN SINA,FATHER OF MEDICINE.TELL ME IF YOU HAVE CREATED ANYBODY NEAR TO HIM.
    kerala is called land of vedas.vivekanand called it asylum of lunatics.u are all moron.have no capcity to do nything good.
    GIVE ME THE NAME OF ONE SCIENTIST OF INTERNATIONAL STANDARD,INDIA PRODUCED AFTER PARTITION.poora mulk maal banane mein laga hai.

    shankar Reply:

    muhammad ki gandagi bataana shuru karunga to ye page porn-site mein convert ho jayega isliye tu chup hi reh.

    engrich Reply:

    rajputs were main ally of aurangzeb.his cnc and primeminister were both hindus.u are jahil moron.fed on propaganda.

    engrich Reply:

    If lie becomes the routine of a mass media, and its audience also starts
    doing blind believe on the productions of it, then no one can stop to the
    destruction of that poor nation. It has been found that on the mass media of the
    Pakistan, there are people who just try to degrade the Muslims’ heritage and in
    this regard they try their best to prove that the rulers of the sub-continent
    had been cruel, uneducated and uncivilized. Though there had been Hindu, Sikh
    and other rulers as well on the sub-continent but their angriness falls only on
    the Muslim rulers, especially on the Aurang zeib Alamgeer. He has been recorded
    as the most virtue, justice-providing kind Mughal-Emperor. If we want to
    exemplify the condition of those so called media intellectuals who are ashamed
    on their heritage and who are enjoying good seats in the mainstream, then the
    example comes in mind is; A guy who get settles in the city by the sacrifices of
    his poor villager parents. Once old parents visit him on some occasion but he
    tries to hide them from the friends. But when he fails in it, he introduces
    them, as “the servants from his village, came to ask some favor and will stay
    for a few days with him”.

    Since some days, a so called public service message is being run by a big
    news channel of the Pakistani mainstream media. In the ad, history has been
    distorted towards the interest of the people mentioned above and the makers have
    shown that; when Europe was building Universities, research and thinking centers
    at there, the Mughal Emperors were busy in making Shalamaar Bagh and Taj
    Mahalhere. We will discuss the historical evidences from the next paragraph but
    here a point to think is; how such wonders were possible to build without
    education, which are the samples of great architecture in themselves. If we get
    little deep, we will find that such architectures were impossible without the
    great command on at-least two social aspects; the experty in the science of
    architecture and the strong economic and financial conditions of the state. The
    available description of Taj mahal, Sheesh mahal, maqbra-e-Hamayun,
    Deewan-e-haas and shalamaar baag tells that the constructors of the buildings
    were touching the best knowledge of the geometry at the age. All the four
    minarets of the Taj Mahal were constructed ½ inch outward bowed so that the
    earth quake can’t cause the minarets to fall on the domes. An uneducated layman
    can’t lay the bricks in such pattern because there is science of mathematics at
    there. The Taj Mahal is standing at a 90 feet base in which 30 feet is sand.
    This sand is to protect from the earth quake, so that the construction can stay
    at its position if shock shakes the building. All this need is the education of
    geometry and mathematics at there. The tiles are mosaic art, in which small
    colorful tiles were used to make the pictures and designs on the walls. This art
    can be seen in the 1KM long wall of Shahi Killa Lahore and Masjid Wazir Khan.
    The colors and making of that long lasting material needs deep knowledge of the
    chemistry which we are studying now a days in the contemporary universities.
    Same situation has been found in the fresco painting, the colors of which are
    still same as they had been 400 years ago. All the Mughal age constructions has
    been found with a special underground water supply and sewerage systems. The
    pipes of them were made with special clay that they are still in their real
    working conditions even after 400 years. The clay making technique was known as
    tera kotta. If we collect all the knowledge of construction in Mughal era and
    try to make a curriculum according to our current education system, we will find
    that a single construction will require numbers of PhDs in them. Now the simple
    Question is; Does all this possible in that Sub-continent, in which the
    illiteracy was at its peak and whose rulers were education

    By coming to the historical evidences about my points of the Mughal age, I
    will code only the western historians, because might be the ad-makers and their
    ideological fellows don’t like the locals/Muslim’s references. Will Dewrant is
    famous historian and philosopher of the west, he writes in his famous book (The
    Story of Civilization) about the Sub-continent that; “Every village was having
    school teachers, which were being paid by the Government. There were eighty
    thousand (80,000) schools in the Bangal only, much before the British came here.
    There was one school for every 400 people and the subjects in the schools were;
    Grammar, Arts and Crafts, Medicine, philosophy and Logic”. He codes in his
    another book (A Case for India) that; “Only in Madraas there were 1,25,000
    centers where the education of medicine was being taught and free health
    facilities were available”. Major M.D. Basu wrote bundle of books on British
    rule and the Hindustaan of the Mughal era. He also codes by Max Mollar that;
    “There were 80,000 Madrisaas in Banghal only, before the British occupied
    India”. A tourist Alexander Hamilton came in India in the time of Aurang Zeib
    Alamgeer, and he codes; “There were 400 colleges of Arts in Thatta only”. Once
    major Basu writes; “The Education of science, philosophy, medicine etc. of a
    common Indian in the Mughal age was more than the elites, rulers and even than
    the Queen of the Great Britain. The report of the James Grant is memorable
    worthy in which he says; “The donations of the personal properties, for the
    educational institutes was introduced by the Muslims in the world”. “In 1857,
    when British occupied whole India, in a small district of Rohail Khand five
    thousand (5000) teachers were getting pays by the Government treasury”. All the
    above discussed areas were so far from the Delhi, Karachi, Lahore, Mumbai and
    Agra like big cities but the facilities for the education were so enriched.
    British and Hindu historians are agreed upon that the education was at its peak
    in the era of Aurang zeib Alamgeer. He used to pay equal salary to all the
    teachers without any discrimination, based upon the religion. Though it has been
    recorded that the secularAkbar practiced unequal salary distribution for the
    teachers in his rule. It was Aurang Zeib who donated the land to all the worship
    places (temples, churches, mosques etc.) and fixed the scholarships/salary for
    the priests and co-workers from the government treasury. There were three famous
    Hindu historians at Aurang Zeib’s time; Sajaan Roy Khatrri, Bheem Seen and
    Eishwar Daas, they all coded in their books Khulasat-ul-tawareeh, nus-ha
    dilkasha and fatoohat-e-Aalam Geeri respectively that; it was Alam Geer who 1st
    time in the Indian history introduced regular medicine curriculum and added the
    books Tib-e-nabvi, tib-e-akbar, mafrh-al-qaloob, tareef-ul-amraaz and
    Mujurbaat-e-akbari in the courses of the medical colleges. All these books are
    almost equal to the current MBBS courses in the modern medical colleges.
    Hundreds of years back from the Aunrang Zaib Alamgeer, Feroz Shah built a
    hospital in Delhi named “Daar-ul-Shiffa”. Alamgir introduced another book later
    named; Tib-e-Feroz Shahi which also became the part of medical studies in the
    time. It has also been recorded that there were 100 hospitals in Delhi at the
    time of Alamgeer.

    I can code thousands of such evidences from the history but the space is not
    allowing me to do it. All the researchers can visit Lahore Anar kali tomb and
    can see the census report of 1911 regarding the literacy rate of all the
    districts in Mughal period. It was 80% or more than that in all the districts
    and was more than anywhere on the earth at that time. But when Britain left
    India the literacy rate was just 10% here. The Banghal was conquered in 1757 and
    in next 34 years all the schools and colleges were turned into rubble. Then Lord
    Cornivolas opened 1st separate religious school in 1781 and paved the way for
    new destruction in the India. Before of that in sub-continent there was no
    division in the religious or any other scientific school. In a single institute
    (Madrassa)there was education of Quran, Philosophy and of science at there.

    These are the votes of history but if the ad makers want to spread the lie
    then who can stop them? Abu-Jahal’s name was Umru Bin Hasham, he was very
    intelligent and educated that the people of Makkah used to call him;
    “Abu-Al-Hikam” means the father of wisdom. But Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said; he
    is not the Father of Wisdom but he is the Father of ignorance,
    “Abu-Jahal”.Modern age also have many of such Abu-Jahalaround us

    ganesh Reply:

    @Engrich,
    I dont know how many times I have marshalled facts on your face about
    India having 23% of the world’s GDP under Akbar’s rule

    give me the source.u have marshalled lie not truth.everything u have written is nothing but lie part of propaganda material.
    eating entertainment sex and cheating is your life.hate is duty and lie is staple food.

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @ ‘ganesh’ Ask Engrich mian where he got his dope of 25% of the GDP first. it is not my duty to “educate” one who chooses to be madrassa “educated “dumbo”.

    engrich Reply:

    i studied the whole matter and found that aurangzeb ruled 25%of world land during his period gdp of india was 35-40 percent of world.muslims madarssas are responsible for 1001 innovative inventions.TUM LOGON NE SWAI BHAGWAN BANANE KOI KAM NAHI KIYA.tell me name of one library which u moron built in any part of india.

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    Enrich mian, your study in history is even more pathetic than you would credit it to be.
    Around 1240 to 1280, the Mongol empire including the khanates stretched from Kiev till Korea, and that was just around 32% of the landmass of the known world then, by what stretch of mathematical calculation can you ever make Kabul to Chittagong 25 % of the world’s land-mass. I am quite enjoying stuffing one nonsense after another pouted by you back into your back-side and into your mouth for a good-after-taste, not because I am a cruel person, because you you have taken shit all your life and made shit cult your ideal in life, your need to be in shit all the time, just like fish-mongers, take them away from fishy odour and they are totally uncomfortable.

    engrich Reply:

    mongol were destroying the areas could not form empire.aurangzeb was ruling 25%of world.reagarging education system i posted u brfore.thatt capital sidh had 400 art colleges.qutub minar to tajmahal required knowledge.
    mongol were destroyres could not write one book.baghdad had biggest library of world.in aurangzeb time gdp was 35

    %of world.
    later they were defeated captured.all the mongols outside mangolia converted to islam.it is traitors like who converted sonar bangla of moghul time into bhoot bangla of british time.
    brhmns and rajput were ally of state.there was no movement against them even underground.
    all big cities road transport system were built during muslim time.
    u specially bengalee were collaboring with occupiers just to get clerical job in their shipping companies.
    tell me any city by mongol.when they converted to islam did many thing.taimur was turko-mongol,conquered 5 subcontinents and 68 countries.died in moscow of flu otherwise china would havebeen like.

    GIVE ME ACHIEVEMENT OF MOGOL OR VEDIC EMPIRE.
    OWNERSHIP OF LAND TO POORS WAS TRANSFERRED BY MUSLIMS.
    DHAKE KEE MALMAL WAS DURING MUSLIM PERIOD.

    shankar Reply:

    It may be true that India had 23% of world GDP under Akbar, also it must be true that India had 93% of world GDP before muslims came to India.

    ganesh Reply:

    any source.a country where doors of education were closed for 99.5%of population can not have higher gdp.zhoot bol ke jahil rakh ke bhagwan bechte the.give me the name of college road hospital library built by vedic rulers of india.

    shankar Reply:

    Nalanda, Taxila are the universities.

    Charak Samhita is the science of surgery.

    Ayurveda is science of medicine.

    Arthashastra the economics

    Aryabhatta, panini,ramanujam and manny more

    just google it and see, i cannot give u all the gyan here.

    ganesh Reply:

    Nalanda, Taxila are the universities………budhhdists not hindu.destroyed by hindus.

    Charak Samhita is the science of surgery…..may be.

    Ayurveda is science of medicine. came from lanka not an indian science.

    Arthashastra the economics yes.

    Aryabhatta, panini,ramanujam and manny more………………… all were budhdhists.hindu period produced nothing.

    just google it and see, i cannot give u all the gyan her…..YES.BUT VEDIC PERIOD PRODUCED VERY LITTLE OR NOTHING.budhdhist period was golden period.destroyed by vedic.

    shankar Reply:

    Where did buddhism come from and who propagated it? From Hindu kings only. Siddharta was a Hindu Prince and Asoka who spread buddhism was a born hindu emperor too.

    Ayurveda never came from lanka, infact Ramayana has reference of ayurvedic herbs being brought from Himalayas to Lanka to heal Laxmana’s wounds.

    Aryabhatta, panini etc all were before 4 BC, when buddha was approximately born.

    Come out of ur stupid islam and read and then argue.

    rahmat Reply:

    Aryan’s sexual immorality and matrimonial relationship will shock every
    one of their descendents. In the Rigveda there is an episode related to
    Yama and Yami brother and sister. Yami the sister invites her brother
    Yama to cohabit with her and becomes angry when he refuses to do so.
    Sister marrying brother: Also Brahma our creator had three sons and a
    daughter. His own son Daksha marries his sister. The daughter born of
    this marriage between brother and sister were married to Kashyapa the
    son of Marichi the son of Brahamaand some to Dharma third son of
    Brahama, Father marrying daughter: Vashista married his own daughter
    Shatrupa when She came of age , Manu married his own daughter Jhanavi
    and surya married his own daughter Usha. Polyandry: There was polyandry
    of not ordinary type, When Kinsmen cohabited with one women.
    Dhahaprachetani and his son Soma cohabited with Marisha the daughter of
    Soma. Grand Father marrying Granddaughter: Daksha gave his
    daughter in marriage to his father Brahama and from this marriage came
    the famous Narada. Dauhitra gave his 27 daughters to the father Soma for
    cohabitation and procreation. Rishis used to perform certain Religious
    rites called Vamdevya Vrata and the place where it is performed called
    Indriya Bhumi. If any women came there expressed desire to have sex with
    Rishi then it is done openly. Classical examples are Sage Parasara
    having sex openly with Satyavathi and Dirghatapa. This custom is very
    common and the women involved were called Ayonija. Sita and Draupadi
    were Ayonija. In fact at a later date religious injunctions were issued
    to stop such customs. Renting out women for a time: This was also
    prevalent the king Yayati gave his daughter Madhavi to his Guru Galav.
    Galav after completing his job rented out Madhavi to three kings each
    for a period. There after he gave her in marriage to Viswamithra and
    remained with him until a son was born to her.
    Thereafter Galav took away the girl and gave her back to Yayati.
    Allowing Procreation by the best among men: Aryans allowed the practice
    of allowing their women to have copulation with any one of the class of
    Devas in the interst of good breeding. The custom prevailed so
    extensively that Devas came to regard prelibation as matter of right and
    no Aryan women is allowed to marry unless the prelibation right had
    been redeemed and the women were released from control of devas . The
    Sapthapadi performed in all Hindu marriages is considered essential
    ceremony i.e. walking with groom seven steps. The answer is Devas. If
    they were dissatisfied with compensation, could claim woman before the
    seventh step. The right of Devas ceases after the seventh step. Chastity
    for Maiden: No rule existed and anybody can have fun without
    contracting marriage and had children. Kunti had children from different
    men before she was married to Pando. MatsyaGandha had Sex with sage
    Parasara before she was married to Shanatanu

    Biswajit Saikia Reply:

    brother u r 4getting about hindus in some part of world…………..they r creating communities building temples, doing pujas , demanding for hindu rights in other nation which in not at all hindu

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    Biswajit Saikia Reply:

    u hav zero knowledge…………..as ur religion, look at u hw barbaric u r, dats wht hindus are n real…….they do only politics n curruption coz its in their boold, take the example of ur own mythological stories…evn though those r nt true n r baseless…..but cleaRLY MENTION HW ur so called gogs with super power used the corrupt way(chall) to kill

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  • engrich

    india should run under sharia as justice under sharia is deterent instant cheap and examplary

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    Faulitics Reply:

    And based on use uncivilized barbaric Bedouin culture.

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    rao Reply:

    be more particular.things in islam changes with time.

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  • kanishka

    Zia, you forgot to mention one of the basic requirement of the Saria;

    TESTIMONY OF FOUR (4) EYE-WITNESSES who actually saw the rape by their own eyes.

    Four eye witness for the rape and that too males; in case of females, Saria requires 8 eye-witnesses as famale testimony is given half weightage only compared to that of a male.

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    engrich Reply:

    now medical certificate is accepted.time has changed.

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    kanishka Reply:

    Taqqiyebaz,

    You mean a rapist would submit a medical certificate issued by Hakimji that he was sick to the stomach and not at the scene?

    Any quote from Saria?

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    engrich Reply:

    hakims are found only in india.medical report on rape is accepted.before most of cases woman used to lie.punishment is death so they were taking many witnesses.

    hindus have no lawsof their own.sharia is better than european laws.suppose if i kill somebody sharia has third option of financial compensation.in muslim world 25 lac is blood money many times victim accept this being more useful to family of victim.

    shankar Reply:

    Plus blood money for non muslims is 1/6th of that of a muslim. So even in death, islam divides people as superior muslims and inferior kafirs. And u talk about division of society in hinduism!!

    rao Reply:

    .blood money is same for everybody,hindu or muslim.sharia laws are cheap and practical.

    kanishka Reply:

    Taqqiyebaz,

    You mean a rapist would submit a medical certificate issued by Hakimji that he was sick to the stomach and not at the scene?

    Any quote from Saria?

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    Faulitics Reply:

    You are not a “true Muslim” then. Mohammad’s laws are timeless.

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    shankar Reply:

    come on.. u mean the koran is not the book for eternity? and that things as per koran will not work in modern times?? U must be cut into 100 pieces and ur mother and sisters should become muhammad’s property with immediate effect. *******, how dare u refute our peaceful religion? We will murder u and ur family… LOL

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    rao Reply:

    things like this is not mentioned in holy quran.these are social laws.u hindus are bunch of jahils.only know hafiz sayeed and daud ibrahim.

    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @”Shankar” cutting to 100 pieces and making women sex-slaves are all the long trail of ‘achievements” of your “peaceful religion” all along history. After all, what more can be expected from a pedophi1e, caravan bandit, necrophile, torturer, mass-murderer, slave-merchant and his fanatical brain-dead followers, who are assured 72 virgins,23 pre-puberty boys, 80,000 servants and unending supply of wines in the afterlife for doing those “glorious deeds” for the “Re1igion of Peace”

    shankar Reply:

    shut up ignorant man. pbuh muhamad fell in love with ayesha when she
    used suckle her mother’s milk. Our beloved prophet saw her being bathed
    naked by her mother when she was 6months old and had an instant hard on
    in his pants.. but since he was not pedo, he controlled it.. 72 virgins
    only because our prophet was illiterate and could not count beyond 72.
    And unlike u phoren whisky lovers, we will get ‘country’ daaru because
    we all love our ‘country’.

  • sayaji

    We do not want medieval laws (Sharia or Manusmruti). We want secular laws with modern sensibilities. We need here simple amendments to CPC where by the law will fulfill its role as a deterrent of crime and the instrument of justice in the context of rape, and related attempt to murder, and the murder.

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  • Waltair

    The death penalty is not the patent of any religion. It is a hangover from medieval times in the minds of people who refuse to see that killing by any name is just killing. Religious mythology of any religion is just a story of good versus evil, relevant to a particular point in time. Don’t think that Hinduism is the only religion whose religious books are a myth. It is not the degree of punishment but education and the surety of punishment that will stop it.

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  • dev

    The author seems to be master in stretching examples and arguments and is trying to develop a backdoor channel for acceptability of conservative and outdated principles.His hints of Shariah as a solution to lawlessness reeks of Jamaat’s ideology

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  • jainu

    we don’t need any religion laws.ammend hundred years old cpc . recruit more police personnel ,train the police with modern equipment ,more police training institutes,crime related course in universities ,upgrade police with latest technology, increase ratio of police,non interference of politician in crime cases,Effective policing,teach children in school about duty of a citizen instead of useless histories,harsh punishment like life sentence with out parole,treat rape as non bailable offence .All this will reduce the crime rate.Media should always give maximum importance about rape issues

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  • Arjun

    There are strict Hindu Vedic laws that applies against incest and rape against women. The problem in India is politicians does not enforce laws strictly and do not punish criminals harshly like in the U.S. These problems can be solved without Shariah, there are more modern and better laws than Shariah. India has a secular democratic constitution that takes precedence over any religious laws. In Muslim countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan women are being killed and brutalized everyday and there are no protests. Atleast in India I see mass protest against such heinous crimes.

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    rajeev Reply:

    There are strict Hindu Vedic laws that applies against incest and rape against women

    can u tell me what are they.far more women are killed in india than anywhere in west.hindu religion is slavery have no laws.

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  • Moo ham head

    When americans shove a danda up the *** of mullas n took away raymond davis even when whole porkistan was yelling to hang him,real usefullness of saria came to be known.They paid them blood money n took their man even when he shot 2 porkis in broad daylight.

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    engrich Reply:

    at the end they have eaten shit in afghanistan and bited dust in iraq.

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  • Moo ham head

    When americans shove a danda up the *** of mullas n took away raymond davis even when whole porkistan was yelling to hang him,real usefullness of saria came to be known.They paid them blood money n took their man even when he shot 2 porkis in broad daylight.

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  • http://twitter.com/macgupta123 Arun Gupta

    It turned out the death penalty for kidnapping made the kidnapper more likely to kill the victim – minus a witness, for no extra risk. The same holds true for rape.

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  • san

    Muslim in India must govern with muslim law related to criminal law also as in case of personal law.

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    shankar Reply:

    better they can move to pakistan and get all laws as per islam.

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    Faulitics Reply:

    Pakistan was created for such people who believe in uncivilized Bedouin law. They can move there.

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  • engrich

    hindu fascists are liars of highest order,their only aim is to divide

    In
    his incisive study of the Hindutva phenomenon, titled Saffron Fascism,
    Shyam Chand, a Dalit scholar and activist who served for many years as
    member of the Haryana Legislative Assembly, quotes from a secret
    circular sent out by the RSS to its preachers. It clearly indicates the
    sinister Brahminical strategy of using the Dalit-Bahujans to attack the
    Muslims and Christians, while at the same time aiming to keep the
    Dalit-Bahujans under the permanent slavery of the ‘upper’ castes.
    Excerpts from Secret Circular No.411 issued by the RSS:
    [.]
    Scheduled Castes and Other Backward Classes are to be recruited to the
    party so as to increase the volunteers to fight against the Ambedkarites
    and Mussalmans.
    Hindutva should be preached with a vengeance among
    physicians and pharmacists so that, with their help, time expired [sic.]
    and spurious medicines might be distributed amongst the Scheduled
    Castes, Mussalmans and Scheduled Tribes. The newborn infants of Shudras,
    Ati-Shudras, Mussalmans, Christians and the like should be crippled by
    administering injections to them. To this end, there should be a show of
    blood-donation camps.
    Encouragement and instigation should be
    carried on [sic.] more vigorously so that the womenfolk of Scheduled
    Castes, Mussalmans and Christians live by prostitution.
    Plans should
    be made more foolproof so that the people of the Scheduled Castes,
    Backward Classes, Musslamans and Christians, especially the
    Ambedkarites, become crippled by taking in [sic.] harmful eatables.
    Special
    attention should be given to the students of Scheduled Castes and
    Scheduled Tribes so as to make them read the history written according
    to our dictates.
    During riots the women of Mussalmans and Scheduled
    Castes should be gang-raped. Friends and acquaintances cannot be spared.
    The work should proceed on the Surat model.
    Publication of writings
    against Mussalmans, Christians, Buddhists and Ambedkarites should be
    accelerated. Essays and writings should be published in such a way as to
    prove that Ashoka was opposed to the Aryans.
    All literature opposed
    to Hindus and Brahmins are [sic.] to be destroyed. Dalits, Mussalmans,
    Christians and Ambedkarites should be searched out. Care should be taken
    to see that this literature do [sic.] not reach public places. Hindu
    literature is to apply [sic.] to the Backward Classes and Ambedkarites.
    The
    demand by the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes for filling in the
    backlog vacancies in services shall by no means be met. Watch should be
    kept to see that their demands for entry and promotion in government,
    non-government or semi-government institutions are to be rejected and
    their service records are destroyed with damaging reports.
    Measures
    should be taken to make the prejudices amongst Scheduled Castes and
    Backward people more deep-rooted. To this end, help must be taken from
    saints and ascetics.
    Attacks should be started with vigour against
    equality, preaching communists [sic.], Ambedkarites, Islamic teachers,
    Christian missionaries and neighbours [?].
    Assaults should be made on Ambedkar’s statues with greater efforts.
    Dalit
    and Muslim writers are to be recruited to the party and by them essays
    and literature opposed to the Dalits, Ambedkarites and Mussalmans
    written and preached [sic.]. Attention is to be paid to see that these
    writings are properly edited and preached [sic.].
    Those opposed to
    Hindutva are to be murdered through false encounters. For this work the
    help of the police and semi-military [sic.] forces should always be
    taken.”[2]
    *
    In the face of this circular, no more evidence is
    needed to show what Hindutva actually bodes for the Dalit-Bahujans. It
    circular very clearly indicates that Hindutva aims essentially at
    preserving the oppression of the Dalit-Bahujans, in addition to the
    Muslims and Christians, on which the entire edifice of Brahminism
    stands.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/fazel.subian Fazel Subian

    The purpose of a religion is a selfish (Muslim) to become a selfless (Muslimeen).
    The purpose is lost, prehistorical traditions & culture remains.
    Understand the religion.
    ‘TRUE ESSENCE OF RELIGIONS’ To unite all.
    http://www.fazelsubian.com

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  • Harsh

    Mr Zia Haq – you have proved you have Jihadi mindset. Death punishment for rape is not islamic invention, used to be there in Indian society earlier. You wouldnt agree to it, I know.

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  • Anonymous

    Imagine if Sharia laws were applied on Mohammad, that guys would have reduced to pulp by stoning for 9 crimes that he committed.

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    engrich Reply:

    so son of a ***** u are back again.i thought u died.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohammad’s father never dies.

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  • dronacharya

    woman gang-raped in UP, dumped in south Delhi

    A 42-year-old woman was sedated and raped allegedly by three men in Uttar Pradesh who then dumped her in south-east Delhi, police said on Thursday.
    The fresh case comes close on the heels of a 23-year-old girl being gang-raped in a moving bus in south Delhi on December 16.
    Police

    claimed that the woman, who hails from Jaipur, was raped
    somewhere in Vrindavan and dumped in south-east Delhi’s Kalkaji area on
    Wednesday night.

    The incident came to light around 9:15 pm when a passerby saw the
    woman lying on a road and called the police.The victim had gone to
    Vrindavan on December 22 and was returning home on Wednesday.

    She met Verma there and he accompanied her in a car to her hometown. On the way, Verma’s two friends joined them.

    “She told us that she was gagged, sedated and raped by the trio. They
    took turns to rape her. A medical examination has confirmed rape,” a
    senior police official said.

    Police said she was conscious and taken to AIIMS where she is undergoing treatment.

    A case of gang-rape under section 376(G) has been registered.

    One of the accused identified as Dilip Verma has been detained.

    Delhi Police spokesperson Rajan Bhagat said Verma was picked up from
    Agra and he is being brought to Delhi for interrogation. He claimed that
    he knows the victim for five years.

    Three teams have been formed and are raiding several places to catch the other two accused.

    A senior police official said it is claimed that the woman had
    earlier tried to get a rape case registered in Agra but after
    investigations, police did not file any case as they found the
    allegations to be false.
    Police was verifying it

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  • engrich

    sumit bose as per british histoians delhi had 100 hospitals during aurangzeb time,

    If lie becomes the routine of a mass media, and its audience also starts
    doing blind believe on the productions of it, then no one can stop to the
    destruction of that poor nation. It has been found that on the mass media of the
    Pakistan, there are people who just try to degrade the Muslims’ heritage and in
    this regard they try their best to prove that the rulers of the sub-continent
    had been cruel, uneducated and uncivilized. Though there had been Hindu, Sikh
    and other rulers as well on the sub-continent but their angriness falls only on
    the Muslim rulers, especially on the Aurang zeib Alamgeer. He has been recorded
    as the most virtue, justice-providing kind Mughal-Emperor. If we want to
    exemplify the condition of those so called media intellectuals who are ashamed
    on their heritage and who are enjoying good seats in the mainstream, then the
    example comes in mind is; A guy who get settles in the city by the sacrifices of
    his poor villager parents. Once old parents visit him on some occasion but he
    tries to hide them from the friends. But when he fails in it, he introduces
    them, as “the servants from his village, came to ask some favor and will stay
    for a few days with him”.

    Since some days, a so called public service message is being run by a big
    news channel of the Pakistani mainstream media. In the ad, history has been
    distorted towards the interest of the people mentioned above and the makers have
    shown that; when Europe was building Universities, research and thinking centers
    at there, the Mughal Emperors were busy in making Shalamaar Bagh and Taj
    Mahalhere. We will discuss the historical evidences from the next paragraph but
    here a point to think is; how such wonders were possible to build without
    education, which are the samples of great architecture in themselves. If we get
    little deep, we will find that such architectures were impossible without the
    great command on at-least two social aspects; the experty in the science of
    architecture and the strong economic and financial conditions of the state. The
    available description of Taj mahal, Sheesh mahal, maqbra-e-Hamayun,
    Deewan-e-haas and shalamaar baag tells that the constructors of the buildings
    were touching the best knowledge of the geometry at the age. All the four
    minarets of the Taj Mahal were constructed ½ inch outward bowed so that the
    earth quake can’t cause the minarets to fall on the domes. An uneducated layman
    can’t lay the bricks in such pattern because there is science of mathematics at
    there. The Taj Mahal is standing at a 90 feet base in which 30 feet is sand.
    This sand is to protect from the earth quake, so that the construction can stay
    at its position if shock shakes the building. All this need is the education of
    geometry and mathematics at there. The tiles are mosaic art, in which small
    colorful tiles were used to make the pictures and designs on the walls. This art
    can be seen in the 1KM long wall of Shahi Killa Lahore and Masjid Wazir Khan.
    The colors and making of that long lasting material needs deep knowledge of the
    chemistry which we are studying now a days in the contemporary universities.
    Same situation has been found in the fresco painting, the colors of which are
    still same as they had been 400 years ago. All the Mughal age constructions has
    been found with a special underground water supply and sewerage systems. The
    pipes of them were made with special clay that they are still in their real
    working conditions even after 400 years. The clay making technique was known as
    tera kotta. If we collect all the knowledge of construction in Mughal era and
    try to make a curriculum according to our current education system, we will find
    that a single construction will require numbers of PhDs in them. Now the simple
    Question is; Does all this possible in that Sub-continent, in which the
    illiteracy was at its peak and whose rulers were education

    By coming to the historical evidences about my points of the Mughal age, I
    will code only the western historians, because might be the ad-makers and their
    ideological fellows don’t like the locals/Muslim’s references. Will Dewrant is
    famous historian and philosopher of the west, he writes in his famous book (The
    Story of Civilization) about the Sub-continent that; “Every village was having
    school teachers, which were being paid by the Government. There were eighty
    thousand (80,000) schools in the Bangal only, much before the British came here.
    There was one school for every 400 people and the subjects in the schools were;
    Grammar, Arts and Crafts, Medicine, philosophy and Logic”. He codes in his
    another book (A Case for India) that; “Only in Madraas there were 1,25,000
    centers where the education of medicine was being taught and free health
    facilities were available”. Major M.D. Basu wrote bundle of books on British
    rule and the Hindustaan of the Mughal era. He also codes by Max Mollar that;
    “There were 80,000 Madrisaas in Banghal only, before the British occupied
    India”. A tourist Alexander Hamilton came in India in the time of Aurang Zeib
    Alamgeer, and he codes; “There were 400 colleges of Arts in Thatta only”. Once
    major Basu writes; “The Education of science, philosophy, medicine etc. of a
    common Indian in the Mughal age was more than the elites, rulers and even than
    the Queen of the Great Britain. The report of the James Grant is memorable
    worthy in which he says; “The donations of the personal properties, for the
    educational institutes was introduced by the Muslims in the world”. “In 1857,
    when British occupied whole India, in a small district of Rohail Khand five
    thousand (5000) teachers were getting pays by the Government treasury”. All the
    above discussed areas were so far from the Delhi, Karachi, Lahore, Mumbai and
    Agra like big cities but the facilities for the education were so enriched.
    British and Hindu historians are agreed upon that the education was at its peak
    in the era of Aurang zeib Alamgeer. He used to pay equal salary to all the
    teachers without any discrimination, based upon the religion. Though it has been
    recorded that the secularAkbar practiced unequal salary distribution for the
    teachers in his rule. It was Aurang Zeib who donated the land to all the worship
    places (temples, churches, mosques etc.) and fixed the scholarships/salary for
    the priests and co-workers from the government treasury. There were three famous
    Hindu historians at Aurang Zeib’s time; Sajaan Roy Khatrri, Bheem Seen and
    Eishwar Daas, they all coded in their books Khulasat-ul-tawareeh, nus-ha
    dilkasha and fatoohat-e-Aalam Geeri respectively that; it was Alam Geer who 1st
    time in the Indian history introduced regular medicine curriculum and added the
    books Tib-e-nabvi, tib-e-akbar, mafrh-al-qaloob, tareef-ul-amraaz and
    Mujurbaat-e-akbari in the courses of the medical colleges. All these books are
    almost equal to the current MBBS courses in the modern medical colleges.
    Hundreds of years back from the Aunrang Zaib Alamgeer, Feroz Shah built a
    hospital in Delhi named “Daar-ul-Shiffa”. Alamgir introduced another book later
    named; Tib-e-Feroz Shahi which also became the part of medical studies in the
    time. It has also been recorded that there were 100 hospitals in Delhi at the
    time of Alamgeer.

    I can code thousands of such evidences from the history but the space is not
    allowing me to do it. All the researchers can visit Lahore Anar kali tomb and
    can see the census report of 1911 regarding the literacy rate of all the
    districts in Mughal period. It was 80% or more than that in all the districts
    and was more than anywhere on the earth at that time. But when Britain left
    India the literacy rate was just 10% here. The Banghal was conquered in 1757 and
    in next 34 years all the schools and colleges were turned into rubble. Then Lord
    Cornivolas opened 1st separate religious school in 1781 and paved the way for
    new destruction in the India. Before of that in sub-continent there was no
    division in the religious or any other scientific school. In a single institute
    (Madrassa)there was education of Quran, Philosophy and of science at there.

    These are the votes of history but if the ad makers want to spread the lie
    then who can stop them? Abu-Jahal’s name was Umru Bin Hasham, he was very
    intelligent and educated that the people of Makkah used to call him;
    “Abu-Al-Hikam” means the father of wisdom. But Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said; he
    is not the Father of Wisdom but he is the Father of ignorance,
    “Abu-Jahal”.Modern age also have many of such Abu-Jahalaround us

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  • raju shah

    There needs to be 4 male witness as per Sharia for the rape before punishment can be given otherwise the woman will be stoned to death for adultry. Also 2 women witness = 1 male witness This is Shariah. Mr. Zia go and propagate your Shariah somewhere else.

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  • Dee

    “The punishment for rape in Islam is same as that for zina, or sex outside marriage, which is death by stoning if the offender is married, and 100 lashes if he is not.”

    So if I understand this correctly, if an unmarried man rapes a girl, he is to be given 100 lashes, but if he is married, he’ll be given the death penalty? Now I’m against the death penalty to begin with, but for argument’s sake, let’s say we agree that rape is a grave enough crime so that the guilty should be put to death. If that be the case, how does it matter if the man who violates a woman’s body is married to someone or not?
    As an aside, the punishment for a crime such as rape, in my understanding, should not vary as per the criminal’s age, marital status, social standing, circumstances or any other factors. I cannot fathom any set of circumstances that could possibly excuse a man for violating a woman.

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    mohan1950 Reply:

    And dont forget that you need four women to testify against one man!

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  • peace

    Such intolerant indians in the comment section!

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  • peace

    All those non muslim brothers kindly save your skin for the day of judgement. Don’t pass hatred remarks. You have no knowledge about peaceful islam. Read and learn religious literature before leaving hatred comments.

    Brother Zia is writing very honest and truthful piece.

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  • peace

    The sunnah of islam teaches lots and lots of patience which perhaps none of us possess. Specially internet surfers!!!

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  • peace

    I repeat God’s punishment is severe. Don’t forget muslims and non-muslims brothers n sisters we are living in this world for a very short period and soon we all have to say good-bye. The day angels of death appear at our doorstep, our properties and other possessions will be taken away by someone else.And we all are transferred to another world forever!!!

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  • peace

    The holy quran says every soul shall have a taste of death. So pls fear your lord and do your best in this short span of time.

    And those who have misconception about islam and rights of women in it. Kindly read the last sermon of our last prophet(pbup)

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  • peace

    For your knowledge i m dispatching few quote:
    “….O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to
    your women, but they also have right over you. If they abide by your
    right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness.
    Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners
    and comitted helpers….
    Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer for your
    deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness
    after I am gone…
    Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that
    you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon
    your deeds…
    O
    People, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL
    BE BORN. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand my words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QUR’AN and my
    example, the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray.
    All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to
    others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than
    those who listen to me direcly. BE MY WITNESS O ALLAH THAT I HAVE
    CONVEYED YOUR MESSAGE TO YOUR PEOPLE.”
    -Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)

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  • peace

    For your knowledge i m dispatching few quote:
    “….O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to
    your women, but they also have right over you. If they abide by your
    right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness.
    Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners
    and comitted helpers….
    Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer for your
    deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness
    after I am gone…
    Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that
    you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon
    your deeds…
    O
    People, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL
    BE BORN. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand my words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QUR’AN and my
    example, the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray.
    All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to
    others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than
    those who listen to me direcly. BE MY WITNESS O ALLAH THAT I HAVE
    CONVEYED YOUR MESSAGE TO YOUR PEOPLE.”
    -Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)

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  • ANIL KUMAR

    There was provision of death penalty for heinous crime even before anything like Islam even existed. So your assertion death penalty mena shariah is ill informed commenatry

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