Would Harvard have tolerated an anti-Semite?



Harvard University, the US’s oldest higher-learning institution, has defended Hindutva advocate Subramanian Swamy’s “right to free speech” in response to a petition to oust him as summer instructor for his recent article considered hateful towards Muslims. Click here

The university is well within its rights to take such a view or decision based on the premise that an Islamophobe is entitled to exercise his right to free speech, however “distressful”.

But Harvard’s conclusion begs a simple question. Would Harvard have spared or tolerated an anti-Semite? In other words, would Harvard authorities have condoned Swamy had he said the same things about Jews? Very unlikely.

It is well known that the American public or institutions would not put up with any hatred towards Jews. Indeed, nobody should accept hatred towards not just Jews but all people.

One can reasonably argue that Harvard would not have unqualifiedly upheld free speech had Swamy’s rant been anti-Semitic rather than anti-Islamic.

A statement from Harvard spokesperson Jeff Neal said Swamy’s views were “distressful to many” and “understandably so” but the university upholds the right to free speech. Swamy continues teaching his summer Economics course.

In a July 16 op-ed on combating terror in the DNA newspaper, Swamy proposed disenfranchising Muslims unless they proudly declared their alleged Hindu ancestry and declaring India a Hindu state, apart from demolishing 300 mosques.

I think Swamy’s devious strategy to combat terror brings into question his cognitive functions, mental health and his suitability to be a teacher. His knowledge of counter-terrorism must be hollow. This is what Megan Knight, a reader, commented on a piece in the UK’s Times Higher Learning site on Swamy’s article.

“His (Swamy’s) knowledge of history must be particularly limited, since there have been no instances whatsoever of people ceasing to fight after having all their rights stripped. Man sounds like a loon, and should be deprived of his academic post on the basis of stupidity alone.” Click here

Harvard did not explicitly say if it investigated Swamy, but the spokesperson’s statement suggests it did not consider such an investigation necessary.

Harvard Summer School dean Donald H. Pfister, in an earlier statement, had said Harvard authorities would give “serious attention” to a petition from over 250 Harvard affiliates to terminate Swamy, suggesting some kind of disciplinary investigation. Click here

Separately, in an editorial, the Harvard Crimson — the Ivy League university’s fiercely independent 138-year-old newspaper – slammed Harvard for what it called “Harvard’s historical aversion to dismissing tenured faculty in any circumstance”, calling it “bizarre” and “unjustifiable”.

The editorial referred to past instances when faculty members were defended despite proven misconduct, such as in 2004, when professor “Andrei Shleifer was found liable for conspiracy to defraud the U.S. government. The University not only refused to fire Shleifer, but it also went so far as to pay $26.5 million to settle a government lawsuit against him.”

I quote the editorial: “As any academic community should, Harvard mandates a certain code of conduct among its members. In turn, that code governs the University’s intellectual vitality and ensures its longevity. Refusing to hold any member of the community accountable — even the most highly esteemed — only sends the message that academic integrity is a suggestion rather than a requirement and an aspiration rather than a reality. Frankly, that’s a message far too dangerous for a research university as prestigious and as well-respected as Harvard to send to its affiliates and to the world.”

As everybody else, I have known Harvard as a hallowed institution of higher learning. And I take away nothing from this historic reputation when I say that Harvard has a heavily brained head but lacks a moral soul.

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  • http://- Rajeev

    First of all there is no comparison between jews and muslims. The jews have been victim of multiple genocide thru out the history whereas muslims have been guilty of multiple genocides.

    The muslims are not victims but have a ciminal history. Shame on Zia for equating jews with muslims.
    This is the exact reason this cypto-jehadi is denied visa to US.

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    tajender Reply:

    jews were always protected by muslims read the history of turkey and spain.they lways preffered to live in muslim ountry than christian countries.they were by christians from jerusalam brought back to jerusalam by omar bin khattab.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    That is why you occupied their Temple Mount and installed two mosques over it.
    Nice tolerance.

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    tajender Reply:

    this area was already destroyed by christians.entire population of jews was expelled.hazrat omar bin khattab brought them back.place was sacred to all three religion.he allowed all three religion worship there.

    Rajeev Reply:

    Now that jews are back what stops you from handing them over this site. This site never belonged to you and christians.

    tajender Reply:

    can u transfer prayag kashi and mathura to budhhdist they are the original inhabitants of this land.
    same people converted to izlam and christianity.so status quo is better solution.

    saifi qadeer Reply:

    tajender,

    Rajeev is a RSS man. This people just feeded with snake poison not milk when they were child.

    This people did not read about ISLAM or Muslim history. just followed some Brahmin(swamy) type *****.

    Rajeev u may be a Brahmin, Don’t forgot you people are just 2% in India. Do not create your venom here. Go and dive in Ganga.

    Mind it Muslim 25%, Dalit 40%, Christian 10% are still betrayed by your type of citizens.

    Anurag Reply:

    What on earth are you blabbering about, tajender? Prayag, Kashi and Mathura (that’s the correct way to spell them!) have always been Hindu sites. Buddhism itself was carved out of Hinduism.

    Your comments are getting more and more desperate as you run out of proper arguments.

    Rajeev Reply:

    There is no evidence of what you talk of Buddhists. By the way it is matter between us and buddhists so don’t play your divide and rule Islamic politics here.

    Before speaking about Buddhists you must know that most of afgahnistan and pakistan was buddhist before muslim barbarians attacked them, destroyed their places of worship, burnt down university and libraries, forced buddhists to accept Islam and exterminated those who refused.

    The muslims like you should stop talking about love, tolerance, democracy, human rights etc. because you believe in none.

    mha Reply:

    Whole world is now in trouble these because increased influence of RSS minded Hindus at World level. They are playing game to manipulate the news at each and every levels against Muslim, whenever they get opportunity. Christan and Jews should understand the cunning behavior of RSS minded Hindu before it will be too late. Rajeev belongs to same group. Thanks.

    Raj Reply:

    Dear Tejender/Zia (I think you are two of the same),

    I personally sent an email to Harvard and their dean of the Summer School and I hope you’d realise that I had a good number of my contacts at Oxbridge do the same as well. Know one thing – only Hindu seculars have the fundamental right to set right our right wing since our right wing have not gone global, you muslims have plenty to fix in your own house given the transnational nature of Islamic terrorism. Being muslim is your identity, 1st/2nd (Indian) no matter, that means anything you do for Hindu elements will never be accepted because your actions, quite rightly, biased. So, since I have traced most if not all anti-Hindu articles (left or centre wing) emanating from Zia – I ask to let reason prevail and cease, focus on more important issues at hand, leave the Hindu problem to the Hindus.

    I am a secular above all, but I do sense bias emerging from Zia’s activities. I think he has biases and that disqualifies his opinions for any reasonable mind, I have never seen him criticise Islamic elements, has anyone? Note one thing as well, you fight the pen (opinion by this Swamy gentleman) with pen, you never hit someone below the belt and take the battle to his/her workplace.

    It seems you guys are creating an environment of intimidation – that in the public domain you can’t speak your mind. If you have a problem with an article *SUE* the person, don’t have him fired, or take it out on his household/family and children.

    So, Swamy’s article would have to punish his livelihood and his family’s bread and butter to sate Zia’s doubtable position, give me a break. One day Zia, chickens will come back home to roost. If you continue hitting people’s stomachs, eventually, someone will hit yours. Besides, all you could get was some Divinity School rejects to petition, only losers go to Divinity Schools! Bring on some competition comprising of Dalits/Christian/Muslims who at least matter, not losers.

    Hindu right wing needs to be checked, but we don’t need an Indian who is visibly an Islamic (or anything else) sympathizers. Though I am an atheist, know that in a diverse country such as India, Hinduism (80+%) is one common identifier of our people, you lose that, India will splinter.

    Pallav Reply:

    Intelligent post, Zia!

    RajX Reply:

    Haha..I dont think tejender is Zia. Tejender is too much of a fun guy to be Zia.

    Raj 911 Reply:

    Why are you hiding behind a Sikh name? Are you a coward? First, proud of your own identity, don’t hide like a thief. But you know, that is what Islam did. Hide behind the truth. Take off your stupid mask, bozo.

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    raj1010 Reply:

    there was an argument, how non muslims were treated well by muslims, in jerusalem . when some hard questions, facts provided, muslims broght up RSS into picture. & they totally lost the plot. trying to kill the messenger.
    the orignal questions were not yet answered. it means they are ashamed or want to divert & push it under carpet. pls answer , then lets us talk about RSS separately.

    raj101 Reply:

    typical conversation with muslim like tajender , mr T.
    muslim authors bias is pointed out by readers (including muslims)
    mr. t – no rely or rebuttal to questions or topic discussed
    but we get
    - islam is very good religion , muslims are good, muslim countries best
    - bring in hinduism , hindus, caste – cut & paste anything to criticize these
    - blame cia & zionist , usa, jews – what ever fed by ISI
    - occasionally bring in christian (may be isi advise)

    raj101 Reply:

    jews were always protected by muslims read the history of turkey and spain.

    — but why were muslims there in the first place.

    muslims were always protected by christians read the history of kuwait and iraq

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    desi Reply:

    hypocrat reply …

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    saifi qadeer Reply:

    Rajeev.

    Don’t pass your venom here. just give your daughter to a Dalit and then talk about hinduism and tolerance. you d hick head.

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    Prabhat Reply:

    Swami is looking for a lateral entry into the space almost vacated by Advani. That’s his strategy of being noticed and hoping for some support from unlikely corners to boost his political ambitions.

    There is nothing more to his rants.

    He should just be ignored like he has always been. If he had found like-minded people in this country of 1.2 billion people, then he would not have stayed a single man party for all these years.

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    raj101 Reply:

    @prabhat ——He should just be ignored like he has always been.

    stop this knee jerk reaction.

    he was the one who took 2g spectrum to the stage its now. this PM ignored swami & now with SC in picture we see some arrests made.

    see the full picture & not a blinkered one like ZIA.

    Prabhat Reply:

    @Raj101

    If you want to get the full picture, start tracking Swami from the time he entered Indian Politics. Else, you will get a tunneled view.

    Prabhat Reply:

    @Raj101

    My opinion is on Swami. Whether Zia should have bothered to write this article or not is a different matter.

    vd Reply:

    Why can’t you ignore him idiot?

    raj1010 Reply:

    if muslims are so free thinking and tolerant ,
    - why don’t you marry your daughter to a non muslim…
    - can a shia marry a sunni
    - can ahamadiya marry either shia or sunni
    - why do you hv so many sects, wahabi, shia, sunni, ahamadidy , & few more.

    wipe your *** first, pls stick to topic in discussion.

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    raj101 Reply:

    why don’t you marry your daughter to non Muslim.
    can shia marry sunni,
    can wahabi marry shis or sunni,
    ahamadia mayrry shia, sunni

    clean your own house before criticizing others, stop thinking with d hick

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    Judge Stern Reply:

    The Islamic barbarians have been against the very tenets of humanity. Never in history, the Muslims have shown an iota of tolerance insofar as other religious groups are concerned. In a ruthless manner, they killed the opponents, destroyed or desecrated the opponents’ religious places and symbols and forcefully converted the opponents into a religion of intolerance. This Zia who has the audacity to question the non-muslims about their perceptions and actions vis-a-vis Muslim intransgence is due to the magnanimous and liberal traits of Hindus in India. His forefathers who invaded India were simply ruthless in killings and destruction of temples and the Hindu symbols of heritage. Same was the case in Europe where the Islamic intolerance depicted from Greece to Spain was vividly chronicled throughout the centuries. The fact that Muslims cannot live with non-Muslims anywhere in the world is well-known! In minorities, Muslims demand all kinds of their human rights, and in majority, they become oppressors against even a tiny minority of non-Muslims. The Islamic scriptures clearly indicate the faith’s intolerance of other faiths in the world. Although various governments in India and other countries support Muslims for the vote-bank politics and the modern day living of political correctness, the facts borne through history cannot be denied. The repugnant politicians who have no sense of justice and fairness and who always indulge in their own selfishness always support the indefensible including showering of benefits and privileges at the expense of the non-Muslim majprity, but this does not alter the unpleasant truth of what the Islamists have been doing all over the world! Muslims need to introspect and this advice should better be heeded sooner for their own good!

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    sanju Reply:

    Then why he have issues .He can not write any article with facts and counter swamy’s allegation or whatever he has written in article.Zia writing like street kids fighting and abusing other kid nothing more than that.He is not intellectual.Oh he denied visa to US then why HT allowed him to write .Oh ok because of free speech hahaha .if he enjoy free speech thing then why not swamy.
    what about minorites in pak Mr zia .Are they enjoying minority status.dont be pseudo-secularism.
    accept fact that 99% of Indian Muslims are converted .everybody knows that.India was not Islamic country.Just straight your facts.people of India now wake up especailly majority of Indians.earlier Indians wanted to live peaceful with Indian Muslims but most of the Muslims have hatred towards Hindus .So hindus dont want to say again and again be peaceful muslim brother be peaceful.Now they start taking hard stand if somebody try to malign hindu culture or Hindu socaiety .Hindus are very peaceful but these peaceful people know how to protect themselves intellectually.Jai hind

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    Eli Reply:

    Many of our learned friends have not even cursory knowledge of Islamic golden age when Europe was passing through its dark age. As far victimization of jews are concerned, Europeans, Nazis and christians have much to do with it. No society is perfect; however, no matter how many generations have followed the same steps. With the birth of a civilisation in the words of Alexis de Tocqueville that befit contemporary Islamic World “humanity achieves for itself both perfection and brutalisation, that civilisation produces its wonders, and that civilised man becomes again almost a savage.”So, one might wonder, why does it come full circle? From sacrificing a man on the altar of gods, to burning alive a woman with her dead husband, so that she might serve him in the afterworld – society and civilisation has been, since ages, a dusky and obscure path to nonexistence. With the advent of the Islam infanticide, trade of women and incestuous practices came to an end, trade, economics, inheritance laws, education, war – every aspect of life was touched by the Divine decree; a civilisation in its true sense started to shape and eventually prevailed for centuries to come, reaching its apogee in what we refer to as the Islamic Golden Age. Nevertheless, today that civilisation stands decadent; on its obscure path to nonexistence. I pray that would not be the case. At its peak, muslims were the pioneer in introducing today’s most of human ethics and modern concepts in the field of math (algebra), chemistry, astrology and medical science. The men of genius like Avicennas and al-Farabis and many others borned during that time came up with ideas that later developed into whole fields of science. In the words of the Oxford History of Islam, “Such is the importance of al-Khwarizmi’s (ca. 780–850) Kitab al-Jabrwal-Muqabala (The book of compulsion and comparison), which introduced the term al-jabr (algebra). Despite its lack of sophistication in comparison to later works of Arabic algebra, this treatise was the indispensable prerequisite for advanced future research in the field.”
    From the first anthropologist to pioneering the sciences of Pharmacy, of Optics, and of Chemistry, Muslim polymaths reigned supreme in so many fields that even a mention of these will probably require an introductory book. We not only had philosophers but philosopher-kings like Mamunibn Harun al-Rashid. I, for one, was intrigued that not only petrol but the idea of the first aerial flight, the glider, came from a Muslim, Abbas ibn Firnas, contrary to what I had heard most of my childhood. Yet that intrigue came with mixed feelings of pride and sorrow.
    Human progress falls in doubt when one sees the contrast between these men of genius who led their society to unsurpassed heights almost a thousand years ago and those who are goading the Islamic Civilisation to ruins today. Islam was still divided into its many sectarian divisions at the height of its cultural, social, and political power. Yet it did not hamper progress.
    Arab polymaths reigned supreme in intellectual discourse and influence while the Ummayads and Ottoman Empires helped spread the dominance of Islamic culture and civilisation till Spain in the West and till Kashghar to the East. But, that was the glorious past, where do we stand today?
    In the middle of nowhere, deaf, dumb and blind as the heirs of a great civilisation plunged into complete darkness. We are raped into silence by defenders of faith, murdered by religious zealots, and flogged in public by puritans. Whether there is a light at the end of the tunnel or a dead end of degeneration for our society as a whole, I cannot say, but should we preach hatred and not strive to come out of a dismal economic, social, political, religious and cultural situation, history is bound to repeat itself in a ruthless fashion.

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    Raj Bahadur Singh Reply:

    @Eli – Good job. You have high-lighted several areas where the Muslims clearly have the right to be proud of. You have also pointed out the state of affairs of the Islamic world today. Most importantly, though, you have refrained from comparing the Muslim with the Jew – like what Zia Haq has attempted to do in the article.

    Zia Haq’s comparison with the Jews is clearly provocative, and invites avoidable rhetoric. Even if rhetorical, it is possible for one to say that, unlike the Muslims, and “regardless of the different kinds of persecution that they have faced in history” the Jews have still managed to garner influence in the west (and worldwide) throughout history and that influence continues today – including in places like Harvard. Zia may be right to say “had it been the Jews” Harvard’s verdict would have been different. However, it might be more beneficial to the Islamic cause (coming from a Muslim ) for Zia Haq to analyze the real issues for the current state of affairs and formulate recommendations that address those issues in a realistic manner.

    Regards

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    Raj Reply:

    wasn’t all the mathematics and logic literally “stolen” from India and re-branded as “Arabic Mathematics”?

    Its so disgusting !!!

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    wasim Reply:

    @ Raj…..accept the fact dude…there is no harm

  • http://- Rajeev

    What about anti-semitism that is practiced in muslims countries and communities? The muslim kids are taught that jews were pigs and need to be exterminated.
    What swamy has written is rejected by majority of hindus but what Quran says about jews is accepted by almost 100% muslims.
    The hatred for jews is one of the foundation of Islam. Islam not only copied jews text but also stole their place of worship citing some fake story about Mohammad ascending to heaven at the back of a donkey.
    The muslims should be last to talk about respect and tolerance. It is disgusting when people like Zia present muslims as tolerant, victims of kafirs.
    Enough of this nonsense already..

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  • Jai Khosla

    This idiot Zia should be fired by Hindustan Times simply because of that reason: Zia is an idiot.

    Harvard has plenty of anti-semite lecturers, anti-Christian lecturers, anti-Judaic lecturers. In fact Alan Dershowitz, a Jew who does not believe that the Torah is God’s word, is still on the staff.

    I hope this the last atrocity from Zia that the Hindustan Times allows to be inflicted on us.

    PS: No book is more anti-Jew than the Quran. Does Zia ever criticize it?

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    Tej Reply:

    Jai, you are more informed than Zia. You dont have a closed mind. I congratulate you. If only Zia and more of his brothers could be a bit open minded.

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    kush Reply:

    I sincerely hope that HT sack these pseudo seculars writers like Jia, Barkha, Singhvi etc – These guys never get tired of writing against Modi and now Swamy but never open their mouth about Godhra train burning with over 55 innocents hindus loosing their lives, Sikh killings in 1984 with direct involvement of tytler, bhagat and many more.What Swamy has stated is true – 99.9% of the muslims are converts ( so are the christians ) by force or inducements so what is wrong in admitting that ? If they accept that simple fact, all divisive forces will become history and our nation will be truly secular.

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    Muhammad Reply:

    Jai Khosla,

    If you consider Dershowitz’s continued tenure at Harvard a sign of their tolerance, then I won’t take a single further word from you, because you would be furthest from truth. Dershowitz is plagiariser, who has not only been so by Norman Finkelstein, but has often threatened universities from appointing professors who stand for Palestinian rights. Dershowitz is an unrepentant Israeli apologist.

    By the way, the rancid comments on this page only go on to show how anti-Muslim hate has putrefied Hindu brains.

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    raj101 Reply:

    the rancid comments on this page only go on to show how anti-Muslim hate has putrefied Hindu brains.
    — these are response to zia’s biased, unbalanced article, quite a few muslims hv also written such rancid comments. criticizing religion for its shortfall is not hating a religion.
    – i can say same thing
    the rancid comments on this page only go on to show how anti-Hindu hate has putrefied Muslim brains. – example Tajender, saifi

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  • Mohan R

    ■Swamy taunts us again. We couldn’t care less

    This was the heading of his last article . He does not care about Swami but he has written one more article about him and on the same subject after one week. I wonder how many he would have written if had cared .

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Zia represents the Islamist mindset who believes that only muslims and muslims only have right to offend others.
    Zia kind of people need to understand that freedom of speech is sacred right of every citizen including Islamists like him. If he demands this right then he should respect this right of others.

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    Raj Reply:

    yes.. no wonder why they call him a muslim..
    word muslim has becom synonymous for stupiidty, idocity and ungratefullnes..

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  • Jai Khosla

    Zia is intelligent enough to realize that Islam is evil but not brave enough to admit it.

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    tajender Reply:

    can u write one page on hinduism without islam.Hindu is the only one in India who cannot explain what his beliefs are. You are the proof. How can you save Hindu dharma when you cannot define what it is ?

    So you are saying Hindus like to live on your fabrications of Islam ? Still, you are unable to say what is Hindu dharma.

    You copy something from a hate site, which is written in poor language by someone too eager to vilify by any means, and you add that Hindu dharma is different !

    If you do not know what is Hindu dharma, then you read my publications on it and learn.

    I said I am open to persuasion. My publications on Hindu dharma are on the net. Whenever you do a search, they will come up.

    I asked you to explain Hindu dharma since you seem to disagree with my interpretation. You boasted you could write hundred pages on dharma. I requested a paragraph. All you do is say that Hindu dharma is not the same as Islam.

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    Gopi Thomas Reply:

    Tajnder

    You have been a consistent hate monger…Jai did not talk about Hindu Dharma or any Dharma..he just said Zia knows Islam is evil, but does not want to admit it…

    where/why this disc on hindu dharma..

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    tajender Reply:

    i only asked him to write one page on hinduism without mentioning islam or muslims.
    he failed o.k.u write.

    Rajeev Reply:

    I can explain Islam in one line-

    Copy & paste from Torah and Bible plus arabic tribalism.

    tajender Reply:

    gopi why he has taken name of islam here.

    tajender Reply:

    Copy & paste from Torah and Bible plus arabic tribaliism.

    question was different.

    i asked him to write one page on the beuty of hinduism without mentioning islam

    javed_khan Reply:

    Why are you shy to talk about the hindu dharma ??

    Jai Khosla Reply:

    Tajuddin

    No one knows what God is and that is why Hindus do not have a fixed definition of God. Within Hinduism one can beleive in any form one wishes, except of course evil idols such as Allah.

    Unlike ISlime, Hinduism does not lower God to the levl of humans. The evil idol allah is angry all the time, such an idol is unacceptable to us.

    That is why Hinduism is so beautiful. You should revert to Hinduism.

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    tajender Reply:

    again every line u mentioned islam.u did not write one greatness of hinduism.u are only
    republishing hate propaganda. which is published by church and some british zoinists against all religions.

    as i understand for ur bad conditions yr past deeds are responsible not muslims.janam janam ke phere.

    analysis Reply:

    Tajender, atleast have the balls to write your real name.
    As for Hinduism: Google the meaning of ‘Hindu Kush’. Read the history of our temples, and how your ancestors fucked them. Now, before you get it from me, tell me one greatness of your religion? Other than killings, you people have contributed zero to the world. Our biggest mistake – we allowed your ancestors in! Or rather you forced yourself in. By the way, you know why Parsis landed in Mumbai? Ask you ancestors! There is a reason why your religion is hated — because it is based on that !!!
    Now shut your mouth, and go and join this idiot Zia. As for Hinduism – we are what we are. We don’t a need a certificate from your killer religion. Thanks and no Thanks

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    Anurag Reply:

    tajender, not just one but millions of pages have already been written about the beauty of Hinduism – without once mentioning Islam.

    When all the Veds, scores of Shaastras, Purans etc were written, Hinduism was the only religion on the face of this earth, hence no mention was ever made of any other religions, yet the beauty of this Dharma was magnificently described in these texts. Go and read those and illuminate yourself.

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    Pran Nath Reply:

    OK You write a paragraph on what you call as religion aka Islam.

    People will write and curse Islam as you are the trouble makers. All other religions are good. Muslims like you are under the influence of toxic propaganda ( Sorry, Islam itself is toxic) of these Medressah who specialize in training the sub-human and would be suicide bombers like you to attack other faiths. I personally know many such lumpeons who are trained to ask specific questions to other faiths and than try to drive holes into their beliefs. The problem comes with you jokers when the sequence of the questions is changed and than you look for fungus beard Maulvi who disappears. AHah

    My son I have straightened the tails of many rabid dogs like you. Write even few lines about Islam see what I make of you!

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    Chatur Baniya Reply:

    why talk about a one paragraph, all vedas, upanishadas, puranas and thousands of other books describes what hinduism is all about. It is eternal religion or sanatana dharma.

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    Rishabh Reply:

    Tejender,
    Hinduism is not a religion of the book like Islam so any attempt to define it will fail. It is a way of life and a hindu is free to interpret it however one chooses. This also allows hinduism to adapt with time. I know it is difficult for you understand the concept but we don’t really care. What you should worry about is that you and 1.5 billion muslims worldwide are blindly following the word of a child molestor and living a lifestlye more suited for the middle ages. No wonder not a single muslim country is at the forefront in terms of economy, innovation or human rights

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  • Shoeb K

    harvard has the right to do what it wants —

    Obviously it is a great institution precisely because it does not go for political correctness..

    It is shame o Zia he spent two columns on stupid followerless swamy; and is yet to utter a word about Deoband firing Vastavi… That impacts Muslims worse than Swmy’s writing..

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    RajX Reply:

    Totally agree with your comment on vastavi. Swamy is a lowly unimportant politician and the things he said about Muslims is crappy and not taken seriously by any fair minded Indian who are fortunately the majority. The vastavi story is more important to Muslims and other Indians who have a stake in how muslim community in India evolves. Zia seems to ignore it for some reason. My guess is that he is against Vastavi but is too cowardly to come out with that view. So he letting that story slide..

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    javed_khan Reply:

    Vastanvi firing is a blow to Modi & RSS who planted him – He is gone – better late than never . But why are you so much attached to Vastanvi — This itself indicates your evil agenda – Shame on the frustration of hindu communals

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    raj101 Reply:

    Vastanvi firing is a blow to Modi & RSS who planted him
    — you want us to believe that modi & rss are powerful enough to plant him in a muslim seminary. if they wanted him to stay , they could hv planted another 10 more to support him on his reformation of seminary. but then reformation & islam is not compatible.
    in fact firing vastanvi is blow to muslims and their seminary.
    you will go to any lenght to blame modi & rss, and float such conspiracy theory, which is useful to none.

    RajX Reply:

    “But why are you so much attached to Vastanvi ”

    My concern is arabized fanatical people like you are going to bring harm to your community. Truly educated and balanced folks like vatsavi are needed to handle people like you. Else the treachery and mischief created by people like you would burn ur whole community. So that’s why I support vatsavi.

  • Balwinder Sandhu

    SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY IS BOTH INTELLIGENT AND STOOPID

    intelligent because he is a Phd in economics

    vaary stupid because of the bizarre article that he wrote- the man is past his sell by date, and only attracts small curious audiences

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    Balwinder Sandhu Reply:

    and SHOEB is intelligent for he makes a brilliant observation- vaastanvi’s firing is more imp for muslims

    and rajeev is correct- when he points out the anti jewish comments by many muslim societies and outhorities- ON WHICH ZIA IS SILENT

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    tajender Reply:

    when zoinists were descending in middle east almost every semitic jew of palestine opposed their arrival through memorendum to general balfour,jewish governor of palestine.in the begining there was some problems later on they lived like brothers.

    when last jew left iraq.he gave lecture in isreal in which he said ,for jews iraq was garden of eden.
    anti jewish comment can be found in every society because through interest economy they enslave entire nations.then create problems.
    they are the secret instigator of all holocastes like ww1 ww2 ,roosevelt and churchill were zoinists.so mountbatten.roosevelt started dancing on his table after listening the destruction of nagasaki and hiroshima.
    muslims are against their evil deeds like others in world except brhmnsts.not against their religion or jews as individual.

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    Sameul Reply:

    You appear to have learnt history from a mullah.

    You say you are against the evil deeds of Jews what about your own Sunni-Shia muslim violence that has resulted in death of millions of Muslims. This itself is reflection of the religion. Dont even argue violence is state of mind of muslims.

    “some 11,000,000 Muslims have been violently killed since 1948, of which 35,000, or 0.3 percent, died during the sixty years of fighting Israel, or just 1 out of every 315 Muslim fatalities. In contrast, over 90 percent of the 11 million who perished were killed by fellow Muslims.”

    By Gunnar Heinsohn and Daniel Pipes, FrontPageMagazine, October 8, 2007

    Rajeev Reply:

    I am planning to play Ravi from now on.

    My new identity will be a fake Sunni muslim who will turn into Ahmediya muslims but will continue to defend RSS and its group.

    Siddhartha Joshi Reply:

    Its a nice article, but the chain of comments is surprisingly vile. I am completely right to expression, though not at the cost of causing such distress to another community. We seem to be missing out on ‘balance’ and ‘inclusion’ somewhere…

    raj101 Reply:

    though not at the cost of causing such distress to another community.
    — alert , another pseudo secular liberal
    so religion cannot be questioned ? is it only islam or all religions.
    - killing people for drawing cartoons = OK
    - burning kooran = NO

    missing out on ‘balance’ and ‘inclusion’ somewhere
    - yes as long as you bring in religion. one particular which is intolerant to others & claims its the only truth.

    Raj 911 Reply:

    Why are you hiding behind a Sikh name? Are you a coward? First, proud of your own identity, don’t hide like a thief. But you know, that is what Islam did. Hide behind the truth. Take off your stupid mask, bozo.

    Desh Bachao Reply:

    Mr. Zia needs to learn some history lessons. If he brings jews and moslems at the same level , he cannot ignore why Islamists in the name of allah is killing so many people including muslims.

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    ram sinha Reply:

    Muslims have killed 300 million humans in the last 1400 years. Allah has thrown bombs every day for the last 1400 years. Allah has kidnapped about 10 million infidel women raped them and married them to Muslim thugs. Please check with your grand ma. Muslims kidnap Hindu girls regularly in pakistan and Bangladesh. Christians and Jews have been wiped out from all islamic countries. Allah has enslaved 57 countries. We can do Bhaijans, Bhabhijans as much as we want. facts will not change. Muslims read namaz in Hindu temples in india, Chrisrian churches in egypt, Morrocco, and Turkey, and jewish temples in jerusalem. Muslims have raped/killed/looted/destroyed about 100 million Hinmdus in India alone. Muslims will weap-weap-weap. No body can help. Muslims are dying in 29 countries. It will spread to 50 countries.

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    tajender Reply:

    regularly in pakistan and Bangladesh. Christians and Jews have been wiped out from all islamic countries
    lebnon has 49%christians.

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    raj101 Reply:

    stop lying, don’t believe ISI data , use your brain to think

    Today, it is estimated that the Christian population makes up about 34% to 43%

    but the truth is
    Because the matter of religious balance is a sensitive political issue, a national census has not been conducted since 1932, before the founding of the modern Lebanese state. Consequently there is an absence of accurate data on the relative percentages of the population of the major religions and groups

    Robi Ghoshal Reply:

    Subramaniam Swamy could possibly be anything but stupid. He at a very young age challenged and burst Prof Mahalonobis’ Nehrunomics as a train wreck waiting to happen, just because the British had left the Indian economy in a pretty sound state. What was predicted by the cocky teenager happened and soon So, this “muslim” writer is barking up the wrong tree. if he wishes to challenge Swamy intellectually.
    . What has been kept under the carpet is the conduct of the Muslim community in general in regards to their voting preferences during the 1940 elections. The Muslim League went into the elections on the clarion call for Pakistan, and that received a resounding electoral harvest from the Muslims all over India, even from Kerala and Tamil Nadu, even Orissa, The voting was so profound that the sitting secular Krishi Praja Party run by Bengal’s then Chief Minister Faz-ul-Haq had to b humiliated in the polls. He was trounced by Muslim League and Suhravardy became the CM of Bengal.
    We have all seen how victories of the Pakistan cricket and Hockey teams over the India teams are “celebrated’: in the Muslim enclaves of virtually every city of India. When the Muslim League MP for many years Mr Banatwala was asked about this, he nonchalantly replied,’ what is wrong with people celebrating good sportsmanship?’
    By stark contrast Jews in India as from all the corners of the earth have enriched India, without attempting to destabilize India
    Even today a Konkani Muslim called Dawood Ibrahim is sheltered in Pakistan and runs an underworld and terrorist enterprise using foot soldiers from the Muslim community.
    One may or may not agree with Swamy’s views, but Muslims should use the incident to reflect on their own community’s conduct which is far from patriotic

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    tajender Reply:

    Even today a Konkani Muslim called Dawood Ibrahim is sheltered in Pakistan and runs an underworld and terrorist enterprise using foot soldiers from the Muslim community.
    One may or may not agree with Swamy’s views, but Muslims should use the incident to reflect

    hindus have 1000 like him what is problem.

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    raj101 Reply:

    hindus have 1000 like him what is problem.
    — no they hv not done so, if they hv killed 1000 like him, we would not have any problem.

    zhang-samba Reply:

    Haq, you are not semitic by race either. know your race first.
    So you are reading too much isreali news. Haq, you are very much of Indian tribal race like bangladeshis that were converted by force and deception.

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  • Balwinder Sandhu

    THIS IS AN IMP QUESTION- and i am not being mean, just curious-

    when was the last time that zia criticised any aspect of muslim society

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    RajX Reply:

    How can he? Maybe he thinks that Muslim societies are perfect and deserve no critique. He actually wrote an article for HT( not in this blog) where he was praising the imam of the Saudi main mosque when he was visiting India completely ignoring all the crazy Inhumane fanatical comments that imam had made in the past. Zia is a strange one. He seems to be influenced in some ways. Y islamists just based on the angle he takes on stories.

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    tajender Reply:

    when was the last time that zia criticised any aspect of muslim society

    this work u people are doing.this articcle is on anti-semitism.from where islam is coming.
    i agree that muslim societies are mostly imperfect.so the others also.needs improvement.

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    Islamic societies are imperfect because Islam is evil, not fit for the 21st century, even for the 7th century Arabia it was evil.

    how do you expect a pedophile who slept with 9 year old children to reform society?

    had Moe let the original inhabitants of Arabia, the Jews, remain, Arabia would be an advanced Jewish society today.

    Instead he massacred them.

  • RajX

    Strange that Zia would equate the Jews with Muslims. The killing of Jews by Muslims started with Mohamad, the prophet to the people who call themselves Muslims. They have not stopped since then and they want to finish them off by destroying Israel. Few people know that hitler has a SS division called handzar fully staffed by Muslims from the Balkan region of Europe. Here is a quote from Himmler about why this division was formed.

    Himmler: “Muslims responded to the call of Muslim heads and joined our side because of their hatred of our joint Jewish-English-Bolshevik enemies, and because of their belief and respect for the one we place above all — towards Fuhrer.”

    What swami said about Indian Muslims is wrong. But he is a politician and we know where he is coming from and why he said the things he said. The question is where is Zia coming from when he makes out of scale comparisons ? Still not one word from Zia about the bomb blasts in Mumbai.

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    tajender Reply:

    Jews by Muslims

    where

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  • RajX

    Zia writes

    “Harvard has a heavily brained head but lacks a moral soul.”

    Never heard of Educational institutions having souls. They have values but no souls since they are not living beings. They have this value called “freedom of expression” and they are practicing it by not firing swamy despite his bigoted comments on a specific issue. What next? Does Zia want Harvard to use it’s “moral soul” to fire professors who have mistresses? Strange unevolved mindset. Zia has all the opportunities to evolve since he is in a profession which exposes him to many sections of society but looks like some people just don’t evolve. Sad.

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  • Jai Khosla

    Muslims go to this site
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmW3F_R37rU&NR=1

    Jo Waadaa kiya wo nibhana padegaa

    You promised you would go to Pakistan once you got it, now go there.

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    Raj Reply:

    fantastic reply..

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  • shan

    I don’t know what is zia’s problem with swamy’s first demand.All muslims declare their hindu ancestry , I mean look at Zia , he is BIHARI in looks through and through , and where he drop from.His ancestors converted , as did MJ akbar’s dad.That zia is indian THROUGH AND THROUGH, is obvious from his DEFERENCE TO HARVARD,
    Let me educate zia about anglosaxons love for jews. Oxford and cambridge BARRED JEWS only 80yrs ago.SO DID HARVARD.
    As to harvard firing anybody with views contrary to israeli interest , HOW ABOUT STEPHEN WALT
    now read what he did
    The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy[1] is the title of a book by John Mearsheimer, Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago, and Stephen Walt, Professor of International Relations at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University, published in late August 2007. It was a New York Times Best Seller.[2]

    The book describes the lobby as a “loose coalition of individuals and organizations who actively work to steer U.S. foreign policy in a pro-Israel direction”.[3] The book “focuses primarily on the lobby’s influence on U.S. foreign policy and its negative effect on American interests
    The next part of swami’s demand is totally out of order .INDIA IS NOT A THEOCRATIC STATE , LIKE THE ISLAMIC ONES , SO INDIA CANNOT BE A HINDU COUNTRY, for that swami move to Nepal.
    It is the zia and akbars , the spineless cowards , who is doing such a disservice to the QUOM by always picking up a fight by highlighting TRIVIAL ISSUES.
    HOW ABOUT AN AGENDA FOR A NEW QUORAN LIKE NEW TESTAMENT ,AND LOOKING AT ISLAMIC CLAIMS FROM A RATIONALIST POINT OF VIEW , THUS EXPUNGING ALL THE PROGRESS STIFLING BITS IN THAT BOOK.

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    Binoy Hegde Reply:

    Thanks Shan..Agreed!!!!1

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    Muslims do not need a New quran. the NT wa only a minor improvement over the OT.

    What Muslims need to do is pass laws that:

    1. Prohibit polygamy

    2. Prohibit child marriages

    3. Prohibit marriages between first cousins

    4. Give equal rights to women in all areas including property, inheritance, testimony, divorce etc. Both men and women will need to go to court to get a divorce and alimony should be what modern societies give the less well off spouse, mostly women.

    5. Stop killing apostates

    6. Allow complete freedom of expression that will open up the Quran, the hadiths and Muhammad to full fledged criticism.

    7. Allow non-Muslims to practise their religion in all areas including Mecca and Medina.

    Most importantly Muslims must admit that not only is the Quran not a revealed but also a highly flawed and dangerous book.

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    Ali Reply:

    If ever you come in my hands u lowly worm…i wouldnt spare a second but crush u under my boots. Worms like you are good only to rant on forums like these where ur identity is hidden and u know nobody is coming after u. Try saying whatever u are saying openly if u have any guts at all and more so when u r near a Muslim…u ll be mauled beyond recognition.
    Islam is Islam…it WILL grow and will dominate the World…the writing is on the wall. Muslims however, will face immense difficulties all along and the namesake Muslims will just fade into oblivion..they deserve that. However, worms like you…either somebody will get you HERE or else the Hereafter any which ways awaits…I am angry at u but i pity you more. Wait for the Angel of Death. You WILL know.

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    sameer singh Reply:

    You all are so jobless and regressive. Fighting over religion.

    Religion has always slowed any progress down, from science to social upliftment. India lost its freedom and had to struggle for longer than required of religion.
    So many people in India have died because of fights on religion.

    Can we just not keep religion at home and keep it personal.

    Lets concentrate on more important things.

    BTW there is no difference between any religiousness fanatic.

    So cut being dumb

    javed_khan Reply:

    So now the idiot hindus will teach us ?
    This idiot did not read his own religion well , otherwise he would have been ashamed to come out like this .
    1- Prohibit polygamy ?? How may wives did Raj Dashrath ” Father of your human god Ram had ??? — Shame on you – why do you chant ramayana
    2- Here he has gone completely out of brain – There is no child marriage in Islam – One can marry only when u attain puberty whatever be ur age
    3-The shameless hindus marry the daughters of their sisters who are like their own daughters – Marrying first cousins is perfect – These sinister criminal hacked to death two cousins who were in love & wanted to marry- What a dangerous cult hinduism is !!
    4-This shit seems to total dumb – It is only in Islam that women are given rights – If you go to hindu scriptures and see the status of women there you will start burning your mothers & sisters .
    This idiot khosla is not even ashamed of the fact that that only the hindus kill their daughters even before the innocent soul is born – The news papers are full of these reports -
    5-Apostates deserved to be killed just like the traitors are killed
    6-There is complete freedom for any body to disagree with Islam , Quran & every thing & every person associated — But there will be no freedom to Insult or blasphemy –
    The joke is those who pushed MF Hussain into exile are talking freedom of religion !!!

    7-Non muslims are allowed tp parctise their religion everywhere – It is only that they are not allowed to enter Mecca and Medina for they impure physically and in heart (as is evident in this blog – ) – And also they are thirsty for the blood of Muslims (Modi !!!) – so that is is the security concern.

    After all whatever you or anyone other is writing here is not due to any genuine reason – but due to sheer hatred and grudge in your heart – because hinduism is crumbling – and does not exist any more – and Islam is dominating from east to west –

    You will continue burning your blood – No one can help you – Except Allah

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    RajX Reply:

    Agree with u except one thing. Nepal is not a Hindu country anymore.

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  • tajender

    What about anti-semitism that is practiced in muslims countries and communities? The muslim kids are taught that jews were pigs and need to be exterminated
    this is bullshit and wrong.we only say that they are wrong path.

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    Sha Reply:

    Dr Swamy expressed his views and democracy prevailed. Harvard does want to keep the scholar on its rolls; where’s the problem? Hate monger Zia is an islamist cry-baby; that’s ok because it’s democracy; he can say whatever he wants.
    Now, somebody please clarify for me — does terrorism mean islam or does islam means terrorism or are the two words just same ?

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    Evidently you have never read the Quran 5:60.

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  • Ziauddin Shafi

    Whether Swamy is removed from Harvard or not, he has made a laughing stock of himself in the academic fraternity and all right-minded people by suggesting lunatic measures. He jumped the gun by implying that some Muslim lunatics are responsible for the latest Mumbai blasts; whereas it is still not clear and moreover the needle of suspicion is clearly pointing towards the Sanghist groups. And Vastanvi runs several colleges in Gujarat – he cannot possibly antagonize N Modi and hope to manage his cash cows successfully, can he? Better to have another learned person, without any possibility of clash of interests, to head Dar-ul Uloom than a person who could be compromised by extremists’ threat to his assets.

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    Tej Reply:

    Islam is the common denominator. Ziauddin Shafi alludes that the most recent Mumbai blast may have been done by the Sanghist groups. Let me grant Mr Shafi more than he wants. Let us say that most recent blasts in Mumbai were done by Sanghists. Now let us also cite that most recent heinous murders in Norway were indeed done by a Christian rightwing person. Now Mr Shafi think what is the common denominator between these two incidences. Why have more and more non-Muslim people around the world have found moderate ways to resolve issues and have found middle grounds on things and why Muslims have failed to find non-violent methods. Your wisdom is not tested when/if you act nicely with a friend. You wisdom is tested when you act nicely when you are wronged. What if Japan starts a murderous spree fro the two atoming bombings at the end of WWII? What if every Indian in Britain goes on a killing spree against innocent Bristish for what they did to us during 300 years of colonial rule? What of every Hindu in India follows the principle that Palestinians are following in Israel, to avenge what Babar and Khilji did to us? What if every Parsi living in India raises and army and decides to return to Persia and reclaim the land?
    What if?

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    Ali Reply:

    HA! Try it. Who is stopping you.
    Fighting for a cause requires an amount of belief which is beyond your limited imagination. What Islam has given to Muslims is obviously beyond your comprehension. It was already prophesied that the first 1000 years after the Prophet (SAW) Islam will dominate majorly and the next 500 years will mark the utter disgrace of Muslims primarily because of the aloofness Muslims will increasingly display w.r.t Islam as a whole. At the end of it however, following the Armageddon and the clinical weeding out of the people who do not deserve to inhabit God’s earth, Islam will dominate the whole world.
    Hindus…Oh my God! what an amazingly crooked community it is. How low can u go? U dont even mind worshipping monkeys and rats!! And you have the audacity to challenge Muslims on Quranic Philosophy. Have you ever approached the Quran with an open and neutral mind? It is THE ONLY way to salvation…however there is little chance that your arrogance would let u near it.

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    clear headed Reply:

    What I don’t understand is why one Hindu who has extremist views worries the author so much, whereas there are a million or more Muslim extremists who voice hatred and violence against India and all her citizens. It is a sad fact that the author himself exercises his right to free speech while complaining against others doing the same thing. Is it all right for Muslims to be aggressively vocal against others while no one else should be allowed to hold such views against them? Hate breeds hate and after suffering a tirade of 50 plus years of hate and terror, is it a wonder that the other side is beginning to develop militant traits?? I do not support Mr. Swami’s views but just as we have Muslims extremists we are bound to have extremists of other faiths. Also since Jews did not fly those airplanes into the World Trade Towers, it is understandable if Harvard does not clamp down against anti-Muslim rhetoric as opposed to anti-Jewish rhetoric

    rishi Reply:

    Had it been the other way around, where a petition against a right wing muslim would have been rejected by Harvard …Zia would have celebrated it …..that is why they call him a muslim

    Rajeev Reply:

    Pakistani suar alert…

    gt Reply:

    He has not made himself laughing stock but told the truth which is beyond understanding in muslims mind.Please do not give Norways example, muslims have been killing since 7th century from the day Islam came in to existance.Killing,terrorism and violance are in their blood.It is blood thirsty religion no democracy in any muslim country just Sultans,Kings and Shiekhs.Muslims think forever threatned and insecure and made blasphemy laws against their week blood thirsty religion to frame innocent people.Mr Swamy has said every thing correct and world knows muslims are killers,suicide bombers and blood thirsty.In USA few months ago one Jordanion muslim Major who killed 11 of his own colleagues while they were sleeping,Egyption pilot blown his plane in the name of Allah o Akbar killing all people aboard.

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    G.Chandrasekaran Reply:

    Zia Huq has proved that he is a staunch musalmaan, that is why he feels hurt. Does he know the history? It was Muslim kings who were invading and capturing all Hindu territories and then went on destroying the temples and other religeous places and built mosques over them . They did not spare even jews. When a Pakistan declares itself a Muslim country, people like Zia will gladly accept. But they won’t allow India to proclaim a Hindu country!!! This attitude is solely because of the dirty minded politicians who , for the sake of votes, keep offering incentive after incentive in the name of reservation. If the Indian public wake up and fight for their right as a Hindu country, then everything will be set right and fanatics like this Zia will flee the country.

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  • ANIL

    When was Mr. Zia Haq spoke about 26/11 (not even going back to past ones) and give his rational arguments on how to stop it? I am eager to learn his view point?
    Mr. Haq can you come out of your shell and cast some light on above so people get a chance to save themselves from the next one?

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  • tajender

    Himmler: “Muslims responded to the call of Muslim heads and joined our side because of their hatred of our joint Jewish-English-Bolshevik enemies, and because of their belief and respect for the one we place above all — towards Fuhrer.”

    when india was under occupation many indians wanted japanese help for liberation.most of the muslim coutries were under british occupation.

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  • Moshe David

    The author, Mr. Zia Haq (hopefully no relation to the former brutal Pakistani dictator who liquidated not only his opponents but also, particularly, the minorities in his country) starts his column with a provocative title: “They call me Muslim!” I wonder why. Is it a fad to stick out like a sore thumb and wave the red flag? Or is it merely a gimmick to gain attention?
    As for Dr. Swamy’s criticism of the Muslim community, I share the concern of the Muslims over Dr. Swamy’s views but there is deep resentment and anger worldwide over the obnoxious and confrontational attitude of the community, particularly of its firebrand leaders who preach hatred and utter vitriolics against “infidels”, be it jews, sikhs, hindus, buddhists and, in fact, the whole non-Muslim world. Under the circumstances, Mr. Zia, what would else would you expect people to say about Muslims though I know for a fact that the majority of the Muslim community is concerned over the escalating ***-for-tat insults traded between Muslims and non-Muslims? If Muslim writers, particularly from the jihadi paradise called Pakistan, are allowed in the USA to vent their hatred against the rest of the world, can Dr. Swamy not exercise his freedom of speech to express his views about a particular community, no matter how illogical or wrong these views may be? I also wonder what Mr. Zia said or did when an eminent writer like Salman Rushdie faced the death fatwa issued by religious fanatics when he simply wrote an allegory called The Satanic Verses? Did Mr. Zia condone that fatwa? I think not. And, by the way, what rights have a few self-appointed religious hotheads and loonies to order the killing of someone who writes or speaks against religious fanaticism? Mr.Zia, would these fanatics also address themselves as “They call me Muslim.”

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  • ANIL

    Last but not the least Islam is not a religion but it is purely politics in the garb of religion. There is very little spirituality in it, if any.
    What Mr. Zia Haq explaining, in fact, emanating from this source.

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    Tej Reply:

    Wells said. “Politics in the garb of religion!”

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    gt Reply:

    No Mr. Anil Islam is not purely politics but religion of devil where there is no politics but killing to infidels and kafirs.

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  • rajiv

    All religions are social-political ideologies. From Hinduism to Judaism to Christianity to Islam. Every religious ideology should be freely debated, criticized , just as we do to political ideologies like democracy, socialism, communism, dictatorship etc. We should not allow any religion, including Islam , to hide behind such callous notions of blasphemy etc.

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    vizier Reply:

    I really don’t understand why so many people are ready to defend jews here, just because you hate muslim you want to love jews, I don’t think anyone here who are saying jews are good, even have a single jew friend. but they for sure only and have muslim friends.

    This Subramanian Swamy one daughter is married to a muslim and she also converted, for just be in news he is saying all this things.

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  • Puneet

    People like you are exactly the reason why muslims laggard behind. You refuse to take any responsibility, or work in a constructive manner to help muslims. But all you can do is spout reactionary bullshit, stitch arguments that would shame a fifth grader, blame everyone, and prove yourself nothing more deserving than to be lamented as spoilt entitled brats.
    I hope there are better thinking muslims than you, or atleast there was an option where I could rank this nuisance of a piece on less than one star.

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  • Tej

    Zia Haq is at it again. Even the most liberal of Islamic people is an Islamic apologist. Zia Haq wrote a whole article criticizing Harvard, criticizing Dr Swamy, and drawing parallels between Jews and Muslims (when there are none, none at all) but he did not write one sentence in his article that Muslims own some responsibility for what their leaders are doing around the world today and have done throughout the history. Zia Haq did not write one sentence about how Muslims –by acting like cry-babies in very corner of the world– are giving Dr Swamy and millions others to reason to act the way the are acting. Zia Haq should be happy that Dr Dwamy just wrote an article. He could have organized buring of religious places, organized suicide bombing and such. Zia Haq also failed to admit that if Muslim terrorists had not been killing innoent civilians in every country of the world, Dr Swamy would not have written the article that he wrote and (at the very least) would not have found any support in Harvard and elsewhere.

    The problems in current day Islamic societies from the Phillipines to Philadelphia are not because everyone else has ganged up against Muslims. They are because Islam only points fingers and never owns responsibility.

    I admire Harvard that it did not surrender to propaganda.

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    Navi Reply:

    I completely agree with you. I hope more people (specially Muslims) understand what you wrote.

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  • Good man

    First, lets talk about definition of “kafir” and roles of it in Islam.

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  • raman

    Let me remind you your last blog title: “Swamy taunts us again. We couldn’t care less.”

    LOL..It turns out to be opposite.

    Does that mean you write stuff just for the sake of writing and you neither believe nor follow what you say online?

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  • Naveed

    Harvard would never tolerate an anti-semite. In fact Harvard would never tolerate any body on the faculty who criticizes Israel and its human rights violations. In my eyes Harvard is a third rate institution that invokes freedom of speech selectively.

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    gt Reply:

    Keep your opinion your self that Harvard is third rated institution.It is top class university in world.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Obviously some seminary is Saudi Arabia is top class university that teaches Jews were pigs.

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    Mitra Reply:

    In fact, most Harvard faculty criticize Israel and its human rights violation.

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    raj101 Reply:

    Harvard is a third rate institution that invokes freedom of speech selectively.
    — you mean, many muslims hv wasted their life studying in this third rated institute. why are you angry ? you didn’t get a seat. meanwhile chk this site

    http://www.harvardmuslims.org/

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  • Rakesh

    Should Harvard have “tolerated” Swamy? Yes.

    Should HT readers (or for that matter, India) tolerate fascists like Zia? NO.

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    Sudesh Reply:

    Mr. Zia, I recommed Taslima Nasreen’s (a Muslim woman) book called ” Lajja” for you. It talks of the desecration of thousands of Hindu temples and homes in Bangladesh and Hindus living under constant threat of violence and intimidation in the “Islamic republic of Bangladesh”.

    Which other country- besides Pakistan and Kashmir- treats its minorities like this? Where is the outcry from Indian Muslims?

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    Sanjiv Reply:

    The number of human beings that have been killed in the name of religion. The amount of suppression of human rights in the name of religion. The hatred between human beings in the name of religion. The wars human beings fight to defend books of fiction that are claimed to be spoken by a fictional character and hence the last word in ethics and law.

    The practice of tolerance and ethical behaviour should be sufficient. Why must one defend branded fairy tales in the same way on defends one side in a Coke/Pepsi or Nike/Reebok contest?

    Perhaps the author of this article could give us an insight into the spiritual and cultural genocide in India known euphemistically as ‘conversion’ from native Hindu or tribal practices to the Abrahamic religions.

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    ram sinha Reply:

    Allah and intolerance are one and the same.

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    Praahant Reply:

    Would you have been vociferous if someone wrote about anti semitism? Just introspect & you will get the answer you are seeking.

    tajender Reply:

    SINHA U R KAYASTH.hence illetimate son of brhmns.harami chutia bhee hota hai aur slave bhee.

    Muslims have killed 300 million humans in the last 1400 years

    are u reporting hindu history.ours ia the religion of peace and justice.

    raj101 Reply:

    ours ia the religion of peace and justice.

    but the truth is
    believe our religion to be in 1 piece, other wise you will be blown to pieces.

    RajX Reply:

    Urs is a religion which flies planes into buildings.

    tajender Reply:

    Until the advent of the British Raj, the sub-continent of South Asia had no name; its parts had names — Ganges Valley was known as Hind, Indus Valley as Sindh, the Brahmaputra Valley as Bengal and the South as Deccan. The connection between them was established by epics — the Mahabharata linked Hind with upper Sindh (Punjab) and the Ramayana linked the Ganges Valley to the South all the way to Lanka.
    But these epics were tales of conflicts between the invading Aryans. In the epics the indigenous peoples were called villains.
    HINDUS LOVE JEWS
    Hinduism called the indigenous peoples as evil deserving of every excess and injury. Hinduism has not changed despite 1,000 years of Muslim and British rule. Hinduism is the nemesis of every other faith in the world today which are more or less egalitarian. Perhaps the only faith that comes close to Hinduism is the modern-day Zionist Judaism. Jews like Brahmins are both ‘chosen people’ given to cheat, betray and torment all the other peoples. But the Jewish world did not overlap the Hindu world until the 20th Century.
    Now the alliance of Jews and Brahmins is a formidable force as both employ ruses and stratagem as the prime instrument for getting their way.
    HINDUISM IMPOSED ON BAHUJANS
    The indigenous peoples of India now call themselves Bahujans which means the majority people. After the Aryan conquest they suffered for thousands of years as serfs of conquering Aryans who imposed on them a religion called Hinduism that robbed them of their identity and their faith. Apartheid and untouchability are not just evil practices, the varna (caste hierarchy) system is an article of faith — perhaps the prime article of Hinduism. Hatred is the religious duty of every practicing Hindu. The situation of the Bahujan is like the serfs.
    That was until the advent of Muslim rule over South Asia, which lasted 800 years. Under Muslim rule, repression of the Bahujan became impossible as the non-working priest caste (Brahmins) became impoverished and the caste of fighters could survive only as soldiers in the service of the new rulers. The Bahujan flourished under Muslim rule because they were workers and were eventually employed as fighters by the Muslims as well as the British. In the 17th Century the Mughal Empire in India accounted for 25% of the GDP of the world. No wonder it was so much sought after by European colonial powers and ended up being a ‘Jewel in the British Crown’.
    BRITISH LIES
    The British started with the assumption that conflict must have existed between the Hindu and Muslims. The British history claimed that Hindus were slain for disputing with ‘Muhammedans’, generally prohibited from worshipping and taking out religious processions, their idols were mutilated, their temples destroyed, they were forced into conversions and marriages, and were killed and massacred by drunk Muslim tyrants. Thus empire scholars, went on to produce a synthetic Hindu versus Muslim history of India, and their lies became history.
    BAHUJANS START BREATHING
    The Hindus quickly embraced the British view of history for two reasons:
    1) it helped them gloss over the main feature of their society – caste apartheid – and articulate a Hindu view of history to build a Hindu nation, 2) demonisation of Islam and Muslims provided a cause celebre as well as cement for the new Hindu nation.
    However, the British also recognised that the Bahujan were not Hindu. While the Muslims were repressed, the Bahujan were given a leg up by the British rulers. The social as well political gap between the Muslims and the Bahujan narrowed.
    DR. AMBEDKAR ROLE
    OBCs were given Separate Electorate and reserved seats in education and employment. In 1932, under the Communal Award, the British offered the Bahujan as well as the Muslims Separate Electorate for provincial and central legislatures. M. A. Jinnah, the leader of the Muslim League, accepted Separate Electorate but the leader of the Bahujan, Dr. B.R.Ambedkar, first accepted it but was then forced to resile from his stand under pressure from the ‘fast unto death’ trick of M.K.Gandhi. That made a crucial difference to the life of Bahujan in India. With advent of Islam and Christianity in South Asia, India was in any case divided into two nations — the Hindus and the Untouchables — as the Muslims were also untouchable for the Hindus. In 1932, India was polarised afresh into two nations –Muslims (who got separate electorate) and non-Muslims (who all accepted Joint Electorate with the Hindus).
    Politically, the Bahujan identity got assimilated into Hindu identity.
    BJP’S ANTI-MUSLIN STAND
    India was partitioned in 1947 on the basis of the principle of ‘majority rule’ between the two nations that crystallised in 1932. Had the Bahujan accepted the Communal Award, one nation would have been ‘Hindu’ and the other ‘non-Hindu’. Hindus may have enjoyed majority only in a few princely states but not in any province of British India. The partition may indeed have been avoided.
    Indian historians have been at great pains to stress that it was the Muslims who made the societal polarisation a communal problem. But that is not true. Societal polarisation existed in consequence of caste apartheid and there was little opposition from the Hindus to Minto-Morely Reforms of 1905 that introduced Separate Electorate. It was much later that M.K.Gandhi realised that Muslim-Bahujan alliance would reduce the upper castes to a minority. It was he who made opposition to Separate Electorate the focal point of Congress politics. To establish and maintain Hindu-Bahujan Alliance has ever since been the focal point of Congress politics. However, Bahujan parties have been growing in maturity and self-confidence and won electoral victory in many states. But the Hindu leaders have seen that a combination of: 1) crumbs off the Varna Hindu table called reservation, 2) corrupt Bahujan leadership, and 3) share in political power, is a powerful recipe to keep the Bahujan in line. But with the rise of the BJP the focus has shifted to the Muslims once again. The BJP sees the Muslims, who are as numerous as the varna Hindus (each about 15% of the population) as the main problem

    Gopi Thomas Reply:

    crazy man, take a hike.

    tajender Reply:

    indias credit rating to be downgraded too.

    pahle baap gaya ab beta
    ooper wale ne sabko lpeta.

    Rajeev Reply:

    “pahle baap gaya ab beta
    ooper wale ne sabko lpeta.”

    The middle-east and all the muslim countries are tied to western economy so Baap ke saath saath uske TATTEY bhi gaye..Upar wale ne Tatto ki bhi shave bana di.

    raj101 Reply:

    stop this cut & paste form dalit times. jut put a link as i mentioned earlier.

    abhi Reply:

    “The British history claimed that Hindus were slain for disputing with ‘Muhammedans’, generally prohibited from worshipping and taking out religious processions, their idols were mutilated, their temples destroyed, they were forced into conversions and marriages, and were killed and massacred by drunk Muslim tyrants.”

    Perhaps the British were right. The bones of the two sons of the tenth Guru, Guru Govind Singh,still encased in the walls of the Red Fort and the childern left to die because they will not change their religion, keep telling a story which makes you cry.

    tajender Reply:

    Perhaps the author of this article could give us an insight into the spiritual and cultural genocide in India known euphemistically as ‘conversion’ from native Hindu or tribal practices to the Abrahamic religions

    because of them they got respect education and knowledge.u weep because conversion means loosing slave.

    u call spiritual fascism as non voilence.

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  • http://InAnswertoMrGulabSingh gt

    This is Quran”Insists on its followers to make war on unbelivers tell them that ultimate abode of infedils is hell direct them them to lay hold on infidels,bind them,burn them in fire of hell”Islams deadly ideologysuccessfully transform the simple human being in to deadly suicide bombers.Muslims have been state of perpetual war where ever they live and they will live in oppressive majority and in trublent minorityThey have been fighting wars all over Philippines,Thailand,Bangladesh,Pakistan,India attack on US and bombing in Madrid,At least Jews are not doing those kind of acts.Harward University knows about Islam very well and they understand what Mr. Swamy said that he is right so how then can fire or punish him.Under US free speech laws they can not do any thing to Mr. Swamy.State Department is also not keen to intervene in to this matter.I agree with Mr Swamy.

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    abhi Reply:

    ”and they understand what Mr. Swamy said that he is right”

    The ‘’secular” India is hounding Mr. Swamy for his remarks. Would the Congress party of India have done the same if it was a Muslim speaking for Islam? I do not think so. There are legal actions against swamy. Those who support Swamy should start a Swamy Legal Defense Fund, ”SLDF”, and contribute generously to the fund. This will consolidate the majority forces in the country who are scattered today because of lack of direction. People should get active on Social Media. Remeber Obama?

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  • abhi

    ”Harvard University, the US’s oldest higher-learning institution, has defended Hindutva advocate Subramanian Swamy’s “right to free speech” in response to a petition to oust him as summer instructor for his recent article considered hateful towards Muslims.”

    Let us be reasonable. Would you like every university in the world to oust every faculty member who advocates for Islam? Or are there no such people?

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  • Yadhunath Srinivasan

    I guess there is no need to go overboard with Dr.Swamy. Within the premises of Harvard, he is teaching economics and not politics. There is no reason to think or suspect that he is spreading hatred amongst students or that he is leading them for some political mission. I find it aboslutely disgusting to extend an argument for taking him off his teaching role. He expressed his views in a democratic way and people are free to criticise him and reject his views. Guys, stop getting emotional. After all, Indians owe him for taking up 2G scam, how many of us took it on ourselves to fight an unjust political leadership and bring them to justice.

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  • sant singh sethi

    Following is the blog written by Bushra S in Dawn (Karachi) dt 4-8 2011

    “Think I’m painting the picture too dark? Here is the reality check. Last month the Sikhs of Lahore were barred from holding an annual ceremony at the Gurdwara Shaheed Bhai Taru Singh to commemorate the martyrdom of their saint Taru Singh. The reason was that Shab-e-Barat was falling two nights “after” the Sikh ceremony was supposed to be held and the Gurdwara technically fell under the “courtyard” of Badshahi mosque. The officials concerned were convinced by some local men, who according to some media reports belonged to Jamat-ud-Dawa, and the Sikhs were asked to postpone their ceremony. Can anyone imagine Muslims in a non-Muslim country being asked to delay Eid Milad un Nabi?”

    “Unfortunately this was only one of the numerous incidents which either go unreported or are so under reported that the purpose of “informing” the public is lost. How many of us know that a Hindu MLA who resigned from Sindh’s provincial assembly and migrated to India because he felt too insecure here? Who cares about the 131 Ahmadis who flew to Thailand in the hope to appeal to UNHCR in Bangkok for asylum and ended up spending months in detention under horrific conditions? Who remembers Qamar David, a convict of blasphemy, who suddenly died of a “heart attack” in a prison?”

    Just think any muslim MLA or MP migrating to land of Pure.

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  • guest

    Harvard is just another institution which wjth the passage of time changes with growth and development around it and in the world. The people who started it and those who run it currently are not the same. Today it has lots of competitors and ambitious administrators who are not steeped in the high standards and beliefs of their predecessors. Harvard today is an academic institution which has and cannot escape financial and political considerations. Swamy is a bigot who wants a democracy to dis-enfranchise a huge section of it’s citizens. If Swamy had included the jews in his category of citizens to be excluded,Harvard on it’s own along with the US govt. and the western world would have jumped up and down like yo-yos demanding that he be acted upon. They would also have blacklisted him and his travels would have seen curtailment. All these others(commentators) who have jumped on the muslim issue and forgotten the real issue show why the world is too big for them and that they cannot that is their minds go beyond the borders of their homes,their villages,their regions and their country. That is why people like Swamy flouish and can live out their bigotry.

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    rishi Reply:

    another 2 faced islam bigot

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  • http://hindustantitmes.com Mulkah

    dissent is part and parcel of academics and academicians.
    tolerance and space of difference of opinion and heart and sol of democracy

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  • Sid

    Why can’t Muslims ever react to anything “defamatory” to their religion by intellectually rebutting the charges? They always want others to be punished, work banned etc. All these nonsense started ever since Iranian clerics issued “Fatwa” against Salman Rushdi’s “Satanic Verses”. Muslims can never win an intellectual argument, so they resort to blackmailing tactics! Shame on HT for publishing worthless articles like these!

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    Navi Reply:

    I completely agree with you, Sid. They always play victim card and they are the one who blackmail, kill and hurt people in name of religion and never open to any unbiased argument. I feel they are just hypocrites.

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  • Navi

    This is a problem with muslims like zia, instead of looking problem in their own religion, they keep blaming everybody. He should be ashamed of coming up with conspiracy theory instead of understanding what made an intelligent economist to write this kind of article. He is blaming one of the oldest and prestigious institution for not removing swami but Quran is filled so much of hatred against non-islamic religion as some people have already pointed out. He will never write anything to bring forward the problems created by Islamic fanaticism but will always play victim card. The title of his blog (They call me Muslim) itself suggest that he only wants to play victim card instead to be unbiased with his opinion. Muslims in general and he in particular should be ashamed of being hypocrites when it comes to religion and opinions.

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  • Peter

    Just as a mule is a cross-breed between a horse and a donkey, ‘indians/pakistanis/bangladeshis/sri lankans’ are cross-breeds between Aryan and Dravidian (austral-african, black, negrito).

    The muslims/christians in the sub-continent are just converts over a period of time. Babar was a half-mongol from Samarkand in present day Uzbekistan.

    For eg. Salman Khurshid is Aryan type while APJ Abdul Kalam is Dravidian admixture (cross-breed). The classification is based on skeletal/skull anthropometrics.

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    Akshay Reply:

    Dude you win. You are the cheetah of this forum.
    Now please tell us what part of the world are you from.?

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  • Sudesh

    Swamy spoke after after what the Home ministry said the Mumabi bomb blast was suspected on Indian Mujaheddin/Muslims. Btw, there are many anti-semite speakers on USA campuses and most of them are invited and cheered on by MSA (Muslim Student’s association).

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  • SK

    I wish Zia wrote similar articles with so much enthusiasm every time a Fundamentalist Mullah issued a fatwa against muslim women being educated, or being subservient to men, or against educating them.

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  • Venkat

    The fact is indian muslims are converts and that is what swamy has said. I do not understand why muslims are fuming like this. If they think swamy is wrong then why don’t they just come with facts and prove swamy wrong. As far as terrorism is concerned even most of the indian muslims agree that terrorism is a by product of islam. I do not understand where is the confusion.

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  • http://karmicsoliloquy.blogspot.com Ivan

    The article is not against Islam..and infact brings out the truth,,,instead of attacking the hardliners and correcting the faults in ISlam…two penny arm chair commentators like zia are attacking the author…

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  • Candor

    Swamy, being a Hindu, has every right to comment on problems in India. Muslims are hardcore and they cannot tolerate anything against their religion but they always keep on digging on Hindus in their speeches. Why should Hindus tolerate if muslims cannot tolerate anything? Swamy house in the capital is vandalized by Congressmen. Congress had been blaming BJP being unruly but did the same thing. If you listen to speeches loaded on muslims laborers, the speakers keep on digging on Hindus even calling like Ram could not defend his wife but not say what had happened to who had dared to kidnap Mata Sita? What right muslims have to dig at Hindus if they cannot tolerate on their religion? Hindus religious places were vandalized and illegally occupied and if Hindus despite in 88% majority want to clean them, the very muslims who were allowed to live in India sympathically, are opposing their sympathizers. BJP was branded communal if they wanted to correct everything illegally also but most of Hindus do not want law and order problems and never understand law and order problems will remain for sometime and then, everything will cool down. Muslims may react with some bomb blasts which they are otherwise, doing regularly.

    HIndus should stop voting to Congress and regional parties and vote to BJP only in all Hindus majority areas. If they do not start doing immediately, they will continue to be suppressed.

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    Protaganist Reply:

    Hindus are the followers of Hitler and his theories of eliminating the minority. It was evident in the Gujarat genocide conducted and wholly managed by Narendra Modi, who was, as a reward for eliminating thousands of Muslim families, given the title of a Chief Minister by the majority extremist Hindu community. However, his true identity was recognized by the US and the UK, who denied him a visa to visit them. If you see videos of Pravin Togadia, the Hindutva extremist, his hatred talks of elimination of an entire community, the Muslims. He talks about Muslims carrying out more than one marriage. Dharmendra, Raj Babbar, Shiney Ahuja, Rajesh Khanna, Sunjay Dutt and many more have had more than two wives and ample of affairs. For your kind information, they are practicing Hindus and thats why Hinduism’s double standards are clearly exposed here. A relic mosque was destroyed by Hindutva fundamentalists in the so called secular state, a crime committed by extremist and fundamentalists Hindu hate preachers. In Bhagwad Gita, Krishna, the Hindu God himself tells Arjun to kill his brothers. Can you imagine the mentality of people who believe and practice this. Such people and their comments are written without any sense or knowledge about Islam, which is a religion of peace. People like Candor should educate themselves and not consider illeteracy about Islam a bliss or better shut their mouth than slandering a faith of peace. No country in the world exists where the majority are suppressed. So this theory of yours does not hold any water.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Look who is talking…the people who wiped off people of mesopotamia, persia and present day pakistan.

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  • Raj

    Hello Zia,
    Keeping aside all your blabber and chest beating on what is a truth and factual account rendered by Swami..
    One simple reason that your pea-sized brain should understand is that people who made the decision to classify Swami’s article as freedom of speech because they are not fools, and I_diots like muslims. They can see the truth which muslims were and unwilling to see for centuries together.

    I haven’t seen you muslims coming out on the genocide in Kashmir, nor apologise fro any barbaric acts of rape and loot of muslim invaders. But when someont points out the truth… aho!! all the muslims “intellectuals” pounce upon him for “justice”. Where is teh justice to hindus in Kashmir?
    Did you ever think of that?

    No WONDER THEY DO CALL YOU A MUSLIM..

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    Protaganist Reply:

    Hindus have ever been preaching hatred even to thier children. When you teach your own people to kill their own brothers, what can you expect to met out to outsiders.
    Why were the Hindus sitting with clamps on their mouths when Narendra Modi was orchestrating the Gujarat genocide, which was completely one sided. You are not idiots but you are a pack of demons, blind not to see things which do not suit yourself.
    Were you dead or sleeping when the barbaric Gujarat genocide was happening? You bawl like a baby about Kashmir, have you ever opened your limp brains to what the security forces are killing young children and labeling them terrorists ?
    I haven’t seen any saffron blinded Hindu to apologize for the Gujarat massacre ? First seal the holes in your own brain before pointing your limp finger at others !

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    Navi Reply:

    You are just another close pea-sized brain fanatic biased Muslims who can only do rhetoric argument by ******** facts. Nobody taught in Hinduism to kill. Hinduism even suggest not to kill animals and see God in every living being. The Mahabharta you are quoting was a fight between good and evil, between justice and unjustice, but you guys have so small brain that you can’t understand such a high philosophical book like Shrimadbhagwatgita. If you think that Gujarat genocide was not opposed by Hindus than again you are lying here as everybody critisized what happened in Gujarat. Media, politicians and everybody but you will never critisize the killing of car sewak by Muslims which started all this. Our holy book don’t preach killing but is highly philosophical like Karma, Yoga, vedant etc. We also believe in “Vasudaiv Kutumbhkam” and “Sarve Bhavantu Sukhina”. IT talks about wellness of everyone. On the other hand, Quran believe in killing non-believers. enough said.

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  • Kmohan

    Subramaniam Swamy does not hate Muslims since he has clearly admitted that his daughter has married one. He is wondering how and why muslims are still scheming to overthrow the Hindu culture of India and still establish permanent Peace in the world. They must be living in illusion for last several centuries when they had a wonderful chance in the world to love their non-Sunni Muslim bretheren and bring peace in large part of the world. Swamy may be on a wrong track of preaching Eternal Conflict, but to express his ideas in the oldest and the most prestigious University of the modern world, he has been given a chance. Let him express his thoughts freely. He will never get a chance to speak his mind in India. The days of Nanak Trying to change Orthodox India or Buddha teaching different philosophy in India or even Shankaracharya reestablishing supremacy of Vedic life in contrast tor Buddhism, are gone for long time to come. Economic atmosphere of the world has changed and political philosophy has gained momentum over and above the need of bread and butter. The dream of domination because of the available political process in India needs to change. OTHERWISE muslims will stay in Medieval days. He has the freedom of expression let him use it.

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    tajender Reply:

    Subramaniam Swamy does not hate Muslims since he has clearly admitted

    brhmn always hate hindus more than any other.

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  • Mitra

    I totally agree with this- Harvard would be forced to fire him if he had said similar things about Jews. (However, the media in the Middle East is full of hateful speech against Jews – maybe we should talk about that a little bit as well). Swamy is a violent fanatic who doesn’t know how to participate in a civilized debate.

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    manujsk Reply:

    To your utter frustration, harvard recruits Swamy and not you. Swamy wins popular elections, and not you. People read Swamy and not you. So, I think there is a considered view of both the masses (the electorate) and the classes (Harvard) that Swamy is the man. So, until either of them move aside, you can keep sulking. Anti-depressents can help, only if one wishes to be cured.
    As far as civilised debate is considered, the man called Zia has gone through and posted links to sundry readers of blog on other sites and quoted them. However, he probably does not read any of the responses to his own blog. Thats uncivilised to me. Shoot and scoot is what the so called failed journos do, and not that Vinod Sharma needs him for his secular credentials, Zia is running amuck with his Islamist agenda. A sincere appeal to Zia- Chnage the title of the blog. It unduly attracts seculars like Mitra to expect an “alternative” Muslim view. Alas, there is none!

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    Mitra Reply:

    That is how little you know about Hravard and the world- just because Harvard refused to fire a guy like Sawmi from its Summer School – you imagine that Harvard University approves of Hindu Nationalist hatred, propaganda and violence. Tomorrow, you will say that Harvard approves of the Gujarat riots and the burning of children in front of their parents and so on. You guys are right- Hindu civilization is great- however, I am left thinking how much greater it would be if the Hindu extremist/fascist movement wasn’t so strong in India.

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  • Mohm

    hahaa…no point by point rebuttal, only empty name calling. this is the best **** lover hinduphobe zia can do

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  • http://none ram sinha

    Muslims should be defranchised in all free countries. Muslims do not want freedom, education, civil rights, human rights. Muslims want shariia and slavery all ovet the world. Muslims arew mou americans. Muslims are soldiers of Allah. They want Allah, Sharia, islam, and Quran in USA. I have talked with many Muslims. Muslims are not humans. I asked a Muslim. he told me he was a Muslim. A Muslim can not love himself. his family, his friensm his country and his God. Every Muslim wants Allah. Muslims hate themselves. A Muslim can not love India, America, pakistan or Afghanista. I have read Quran, I have read many Muslim writings and teachings. Muslims love their slavery of Allah. Muslims hate rhemselves. We can not force anybody to love. Muslims are taught from childhood to fear Allah. It is unfortunate but it is true.

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    ram sinha Reply:

    The greatest tragedy of this age is coming. Muslims are dyiung in 20 countries every day. This will accelerate. 100s of millions of Muslims will be killed in coming 2-3-4-5 years. Muslims have watered and fertilized seeds of hate for the last 1400 years. Trees will bear fruits. Muslims will have to eat poison fruits. Lies and Bhaijan works for a while. Law of Karma operates this creation. Muslims will shirt of tears. No body can save Muslims. Lalu amd Malu will be in jail. Politicians and Mullahs would be in jails or dead. Allah has abandoned Muslims in 1948. Muhammad abandoned Muslims in 2011. Muslims will kill themselves withh full vigour and enthusiams. They deserve paradise. Muslims are fit, worthy and ready for paradise. time is here. Mullahs and Politicians would not allow them to humanize. Please read:

    http://www.pakistanandarmageddon.com

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  • Muneer

    Problem with us is that every time a loony writes anything stupid, we will that its a global conspiracy against our religion. See what Zia is writing, why do u have to bring jews into this at all? zia is implying that a lot of jews and hindus are all bent to destroy Muslims. stupid

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    raj1010 Reply:

    - good to know there are some people who don’t beleive in conspiracy theory, as most muslims do beleive in jews, hindus, zionist, cia , usa conspiracy to destroy islam, propagated by people like zia.

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  • Udayakumar

    Swami is a very secular person. His daughter is married to a Muslim and his sister to a christian. Many of the the fanatics who criticizes him are so narrow minded that they cant think about a relation outside their own religion, That is sheer hypocrisy. It is not what one speaks that makes him broadminded but how he lives.
    Regarding what he said about Islam is very true indeed, No hindu scriptures use derogatory comments anywhere against other faiths unlike Koran does. No religious books on hinduism debases women to the level of slaves and treats them as objects to be raped and misused by men as their god given rights. There is a clear reference of Prophet Mohamed practicing polygamy and raping a 9 year old child Aysha. An ordinary Muslim tends to look upon the Koran as a way of life and Prophet as a role model. that is the reason for taliban to be what they are today – just true followers of Isam. Obviously the civilized world is unable to tolerate their faith.
    The people who follow this faith needs a lot of introspection and should take appropriate corrective steps instead of blaming other religions for their own vices. otherwise they will be treated just like barbarians for their barbaric practices.
    Fortunately they have many great role models to Follow. Like APJ Abdul Kalam, Shabana Azmi and Abu Abraham instead of going after fanatic mullas

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  • Rajesh

    Who cares what Subramaniam Swamy says?? He lost his relevance years ago and now heads a one-man party. Zia by repeatedly quoting him is giving too much importance to that man and his views. Its a typical case of people of extreme views feeding off each other to gain importance.

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    palash Reply:

    In my area there are several madrassas(Islamic School). They do not even hoist National Flag on Independence day, they celebrate when India loses in cricket match . Why should they be given the right to vote if they do not respect India as a nation.

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  • Arid

    Just like Zia Haq, Swami also has rights to speak what he thinks right. He raised some question and he provides solution as per his wisdom. Instead of addressing question raised by him, we are discussing solution provided by him.
    What’s wrong to recognize our roots with India? Will it change my belief or faith in Allah? Does my religion says, I should not recognize and respect my roots.
    What I know is Islam means peace and love. If we can’t preach and spread what we believe in then we are hypocrite.

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    manujsk Reply:

    Awesome! It couldnt have been more apt. Hope more people understand you, but at the same time the onus is as much on you to make more people understand what you just said here..Best!

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  • raj101

    Hi Zia, — Can you pls write an article —– ” What will not offend muslims ” —–
    (it can be 1 muslim or 1 billion muslims, up to your agenda). This can be a guide book for all non muslims, to be strictly followed , other wise following reaction from muslims will be justified
    - author can be killed,
    - hands chopped off,
    - hounded for life & made to run
    - people who still support will be called bigoted,
    - no meaningful rebuttal to article will be provided
    - ban the article , or usa & israel flags will be burnt.

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    tajender Reply:

    can u furnish me the list of hindu terrorist.

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    raj1010 Reply:

    – don’t be lazy like zia, go & seek knowledge, as often quoted from koran

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    raj101 Reply:

    why, can you not find anything in dalittimes & similar ones.
    seek knowledge as mentioned in moron

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  • rishi

    All this blabber somehow has a different measure when it comes to the painting of MF Hussain a right wing Deoband islamist with hate for hindu & hindu gods.

    Zia u are a muslim! shame on u

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    Raju Kurien Reply:

    Rishi-

    You got it! Hussain is secular, Swamy is not!
    Zia wrote justifying Hussain!

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    tajender Reply:

    naked in hinduness is pavitra.swamy is cia agents in india.all ur temples are full of naked devis showing best AASAN for people like u and me.

    A GOOD HINDU IS ALWAYS A GOOD SLAVE.

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    raj101 Reply:

    A GOOD HINDU IS ALWAYS A GOOD SLAVE.
    — much better than being brain dead, to blow up people, to puck 72 virgins & drink wine in heaven with an imaginary god who flew on horse.
    ( how come you cannot drink wine when alive but after death you can…. funny, i would rather die drinking than drink after death.)

    RajX Reply:

    Tut tut..exhindu..don’t talk like that about ur great grand mother.

    MKK Reply:

    So! How does that make a difference?

  • raj101

    —- Harvard has a heavily brained head but lacks a moral soul.
    Hi zia , what do you mean by moral soul ? one which does not critise your religion or all religions.

    i hv read pseudo secular write , donot see m.f.hussain painting if you don’t like it, painter has all rights to paint what he wants. same with movie water. if you don’t like his article , don’t read it.

    did you send a list of questions for clarification to swamy. why don’t you try to get his point of view and present it for us to decide.

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    But Hussain did not paint a picture of the naked Hazrat Muhammad and his baby wife, both in bed, Muhammad doing his thinggy on the child while Aisha was playing with dolls.

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    tajender Reply:

    he should better show tajender fkng mother and wife of jai khosla from the back.while khosla was putting shvlngs in *** of homosexual savarkar and chor golwalkar.

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    taj

    take your mediction please–drink oont kaa peshab and utter Allah’s name.

    tajender Reply:

    take your mediction please–drink oont kaa peshab and utter Allah’s name

    why not fk ur mthr.

    raj101 Reply:

    so nothing to refute about pedophile messenger …. are you ashamed. normal humans would be.

    raj101 Reply:

    he should better show tajender fkng mother and wife of jai khosla from the back.
    — how come some tough questions to zia are censored, but such maniacal hardcore porno stuff is allow to be here ???? typical taliban behaviour.

    tajender Reply:

    khosla,i know 50 people ,jo ghandoo savarkar kee ghhand marte the.

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  • Sudesh

    What he should have said is that Indians should treat Muslims equally as Muslims treat Hindus in Kashmir, then there would be no controversy.

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    tajender Reply:

    muslims always treated hindus in best possible way.

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    By chopping off their heads fi they dont become Muhammadans.

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    tajender Reply:

    we chop the *** of people like.put a greasy shvlng in *** and suck my **** i will take u to swarag where u will find ur immoral bhagwan fkng all the vamps of vedic empire and tejender fkng u nice daughters and old mother.

  • Jai Khosla

    One of the issues is Islamic terrorism which mainly affects the West, Israel and India.

    Israel does not pull punches. When one Jew is killed Israel kills a hundred Muslims and Muslims then think twice about killing Jews.

    The West and India are too politically correct to worry about their non-Muslim citizens.

    If we really are serious about eliminating Islamic terrorism then :

    1. India should complete Partition and send all its Muslims to Pakistan or Bangladesh and bring all non-Muslims from those countries to India. Muslims from all of Jammu and Kashmir should also be relocated to their Pyaaraa Paksitan

    2. the West should stop all immigration from Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Iran, all the Gulf countries, Egypt, Alegria, Somalia and Sudan. All residents from those countries should be deported. In return teh west should pay the beggar countries such as Pyaara pakistan a few billion dollars for the next 25 years and demand that they become secular.

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    tajender Reply:

    if muslims kick out hindus working in muslim countries half the india will die of hunger.

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    Oman is nearly hundred % Hindu–we will kick the Muhammadans out.

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    tajender Reply:

    are u dreaming.u clean the shoes of arabs and offer ur girls to them to have smooth stay.

    raj101 Reply:

    then why did they employ hindus in the first place. they could hv hired from other muslim countries. but then its quite difficult to find a capable doctors , qualified professionals.
    stop dreaming about ethnic cleansing, like you did in kashmir.

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  • tajender

    the West should stop all immigration from Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Iran, all the Gulf countries, Egypt, Alegria, Somalia and Sudan

    all these countries are better than west.they are giving employment to 20 lac hindus they should kick them out.enough space.

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    raj101 Reply:

    all these countries are better than west
    — stop joking, see the people standing outside US embassy for visa in these countries.

    Sudan
    — i assume christian south sudan & not the muslim north

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  • David

    My God all these comments are so retarded that its ubelievable.. you “hindus” have truly shamed your people.. by putting such horrid and disgraceful comments.. shame shame .. I dont think you know what shame is .. I think you guys have a fraction of a braincell operating..I am a muslim and my Best friend is a Hindu.. he says India was great under Akbar. me and him discuss with open mindedness.. not hate .. GOD !!! and he loves Dr Zakir Nayek ,, even though he is a Hindu.. wake up the zionists play divide and conquer.. you should have learnt a thing or two from Ghandi

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    Mritunjay Sharma Reply:

    Dude please go and check your facts. Dr. Zakir Naik is banned in UK for nothing. He and all Muslim scholars says that only ISLAM is true religion. Other religions are farce. This creates problem. Try respecting other religions and people will start respecting Islam. Also, Islam has not done nothing to contribute to Clivilization. It has been in war since the time it came into existence. Even in Islamic countries, there is hardly any peace. So try to see the reality instead of getting blinded by what you have been told as something which is a word of God. Reforms are necessary in each religions. Hinduism has seen many bad practices being abolished. When are we going to see the same thing with ISLAM? Think about what i have said.

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    David

    Do you like Prophet Muhammad sleeping with 9 year old children while the children were playing with dolls?

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    raj101 Reply:

    my Best friend is a Hindu.. he says India was great under Akbar.
    — wow, your friend should be around 600 years old now.

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    RajX Reply:

    “he says India was great under Akbar”

    Moron. Was India not greater under Ashoka? Why pick Akbar who is a Persian? So you don’t admit that you have Hindu ancestors and you are a convert? You think u are reasonable but u are not. Your Hindu friend sounds like arundathi Roy.

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    vd Reply:

    Arundhati roy is a christian like Ambika soni & Rajshekhar reddy the rice bag christian

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  • tajender

    Yoga is a Hindu humbug

    : Beware of yoga. It is the other word for hinduising (enslaving) the unthinking fellows. No Muslim country has allowed the infiltration of yoga, which is nothing but deep-breathing — but in a closed, congested room.
    China is fully aware of the Brahminical poison. Yoga is barred.
    Early morning walk: The Brahminical people are actively assisted by the Jews in the West, particularly the USA, to set up yoga centers and gradually poison the Christian mind. The Vatican, the Roman Catholic headquarters, is fully aware of the tricks of the “Jews of India” who are in league with the Jews.
    If you want to do deep breathing take a brisk early morning walk (or even run) which helps you take plenty of pure oxygen that will fill your lung. Your Editor does it daily. But if you fall a prey to the yoga guru humbug you will be huddled inside a closed, congested room and you have to inhale the dirty breath of others. It is advertised as a sure cure to reduce your weight. Nonsense. If you want to reduce your weight the best cure is start running and reduce eating. Simple.
    Yoga is a big business in India and abroad. Being expensive it brings a huge income to our enemies besides hinduising (enslaving) the non-Hindu.Don’t believe all the **** and bull stories sold by the Brahminical toilet papers saying “yoga will upgrade your efficiency”. Nonsense

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  • bagmachine

    swamy has said which many of us beleive/ feel –this is what my grandmother had said all along . What is wrong in saying that muslims or converts should accept the fact that they have a hindu ancestry –after all we know that present musims are converts from hinduism either by corcive means or simply by inducement –we all know that aurangzeb only had dinner after he was presented with 1000 “venis “–the hair lock-which had been cut from the hindu heads . tamur lane killed 100000 hindus in one day as they did not convert —–so let us first realise that muslims have same generic as the hindus –only they think of themselves as superior as they claim they are direct descendants of babbar
    muslims who came to trade here initially lived in peace here and even intermarried and settled down –forced conversion , hindu society has always been generous . liberal and they were accepted .political islam and muslim rule with its penchant for islamisation , conversions , rapaciousness, cruelty put a end to this , THIS shows that muslims when in insigificanT minority are no problem –it is only when they become a fair majority does the problem start will not accepting that they are of same background not result in their better integration for now they look t arabic culture as their guiding spirit . wHY EVEN THE PRESENT DIVISION OF SUDAN IS DUE TO SAME RAPACITY OF THE MUSLIM NORTH AGAINST THE CHRISTIAN SOUTH-AS WAS DONE IN INDIA 700 YEARS BACK-EVEN IN MODERN TIMES –THE STORIES OF FORCED CONVERSION , KILLINGS , RAPACITY HERE IS ONLY IS AS RECENT AS 1970 .. It shows that muslim culture does not change . retains its animosity for others –and that is the cause of the problem all ver the world and cause of islamic terror. And pray what he has said is only free thOught , a well argued article –what aBout the daily harangues in mosques and madrassas –what about one dr zaki day in and out making anti hindu tirades on peace tv ?

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  • Hiralal123

    It is amazing that besides Deccan Herald, no mainstream newspaper has reported or bothered to talk about Karachi violence where 318 people–mostly muslims who migrated from India to pakistan during partition– have been butchered by locals. The same newspapars along with Indian muslim leaders including Zia are busy thrashing Swamy for his comments despairing recent Mumbai blasts. The irony is that, pampered as he is by so called secularists, Zia does not see it worthwhile to mourn the loss of people–mostly Hindus–in Mumbai blasts.

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  • s chadha

    would harvard have tolerated a anti semite? probably no . but the difference is that jews have ben persecuted as recently as 1940 wheras it is the muslims who are guilty of terrorism , jihad , illiberalism . This is true all over the world as the world has come to realise now . We in india have been witness to the wars . killings . etc against the hindu communities for 7 centuries of muslim rule here —–somnath temple was destroyed / looted 17 times , —-most muslims are converts from hinduism out of fear , greed , or violence against them –as recently as 1947 the direct action day call of jinnah saw unprecendented violence against hindus —-the trapping and killing of godhra of hindu pilgrims is stll afresh in memory
    do not compare anti semitism with what the world is calling muslim terrorism —-they ie jews were the sufferes of violence wheras the muslims are the perpetators of violence , terror , separatism ever since the inception of this religion

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  • Jai Khosla

    Regarding kicking westerners and Hindus out of Arab countries:

    the economies of the Arab countries would grind to a halt as Arabs are totally dependent on non-Muslims.

    the Arabs cannot even make screw with which they can screw themselves. Arabs sat on oil for thousands of years with no clue and still have no clue. Hindus and whites do all the intelligent work for them.

    They used to be innovative but Islam with its custom of cousin marriages has destroyed the Arabs’ inventiveness.

    In the West Muslims have become parasites. they the percentage of people on dole and welfare and terrorism. the West and India will be well of if they evict all Muslims.

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  • tajender

    india will be ell of only if idiots like u are kicked out.it is also very easy as u number very.grmany is going to be first muslim majority country soon.it will be difficult task.kicking out a idiot need no effort.

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    raj101 Reply:

    grmany is going to be first muslim majority country soon
    - still dreaming about caliphate & umah. germans are not indian congress, they will handle it. don’t worry.

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    tajender Reply:

    i want caliphate and it will come but delhi will be its centre.indians are fed up with evils of brhmnsm and are convertng in large numbers.

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    vd Reply:

    May be with an other gas chamber to bring them back to minority.

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    palash Reply:

    promote this site…. Lets begin campaign from now on … We r endangered

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/

    Read Ali sina’s website. Read calcutta quoran petition. Read ex-muslims

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    RajX Reply:

    Tejender, Germans created gas chambers to handle the mild Jews who were not even a threat to them. What do u think they will do to Muslims if they are a threat? Something even worser than gas chambers. Don’t underestimate the German ability to be Inhumane and barbaric. They can do it if they want to.

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  • raj1010

    — some famous muslim anti-semite tolerated
    -Though Yasser Arafat promised on multiple occasions in letters and in speeches to remove the parts of the PLO’s charter which called for the destruction of “The Zionist Entity,” the version which contains those articles is the version displayed to the UN, and to other Palestinian bodies
    - Grand Mufti of Jerusalem – Husseini, a member of an important Jerusalem Arab family, as an anti-Semite and a key figure in infusing the modern Arab world with anti-Semitic attitudes.
    -He met with Hitler and other Nazi officials on various occasions and attempted to coordinate Nazi and Arab policies to solve the “Jewish problem” in Palestine

    zia, its better you start cleaning your house full of anti-semites.

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  • raj1010

    hi zia,
    can you explain why we see israel flags burnt / flags trampled on, in muslim countries even for flood , thypoon, cartoons and for all sundry reasons.

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    tajender Reply:

    such stupidities can happen where elephants and bandars are considered as god.

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  • tajender

    the Arabs cannot even make screw with which they can screw themselves. Arabs sat on oil for thousands of years with no clue and still have no clue. Hindus and whites do all the intelligent work for them

    iran is far ahead of india in field of nanotechnology dtem cell researh and misil technology.u donot have a single university of international standard.jaali degrees and jaale bhagwans are readily available in india.

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    raj101 Reply:

    - iran is far ahead of india
    similarly , i often hear arabs were good in astronomy, but funny thing is, they still cannot say when is ramadan. they need to go out & see the cresent. don’t they know there will be cresent on the day next to new moon. if they sky is cloudy for 3 days, will they wait for 3 days ?

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    tajender Reply:

    arabs were leaders of world for 5 hundred years in field of physics chemitry and astronomy.it is fact.base of modern civilization and rennainance is ilamic civilization.regarding ramazan it should be based on physical watching.

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    RajX Reply:

    Tejender, your Hindu ancestors were the leaders of the world in astronomy. It’s pathetic that u have been arabized to such a level that you take away the achievements of ur Hindu ancestors and give it to ur Arab lords who invaded and colonized your lands. Sad.

    Jai Khosla Reply:

    It must have been very elementary chemistry etc because your Arab masters are still there. They sat on oil and the white man had to come and find it for them while the Arabs did namaaz and screwed female children in imitation of the Prophet. They still cannot make a screw even to screw themselves.

    Taj, by the way the Arabs have job oepning in the Gulf Times. they are looking for devout Muslims to taste test the payshaab of the Arab sheikhs. Since you are such a slave you will be the right eunuch for the job.

    vd Reply:

    From leaders in physics to almost Juglee. what a degradation in 500 years! i dont know what will happen in other 500 years.

    RajX Reply:

    Iran? Really? Indians don’t go to Iran to study but iranians come here a lot. Why is that? Iran is not ahead of India in any field except maybe in burying people and executing them in Inhumane Islamic ways.

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  • vijay kumar

    @ T U R D Tajendar :D

    =============================================================================
    :D :D ~~~ TAKE A LAXATIVE MAN ~~~ ::D :D ~~ all ISI propoganda will flow out of your brain !! ~~ :D
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    O Tajendar , you are quite an ISI T U R D !! :D :D

    I seriously adivse you to take a full bottle of Laxatives. All the ISI propoganda and T U R D S jamming your brain and intestines will flow out …. :D

    AMd so will pictures of Hafeez Saeed, Lakhvi, Osama and Dawood emerge from your S H I T :D

    Aur thum azzad ho jayega….

    HA HA HA HA HA :D :D :D

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    palash Reply:

    Go to the link and find out yourself. Post these links everywhere for the sake of awareness..

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/

    Read Ali sina’s website.
    Read about calcutta quoran petition.
    Read ex-muslims

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  • Jai Khosla

    I hope after you read this article below from the New York Times you will agree with me as to why we have to complete Partition with no more delays and send all Muslims to either Pakistan or Bbangladesh. Otherwise because of their high birth rates Muslims will overwhelm India and India will become another hell.

    We can keep Tajuddin in India. he provides good entertainment. Besides he need medication that is unavailable in Pakistan.

    ***********************************************************************************************************

    During her travels across Pakistan, Pamela Constable, a veteran foreign correspondent for The Washington Post, dropped in on the campus of Punjab University in Lahore, a city of 10 million, the scene of terrorist bombings and the cultural capital of the nation. By cultural capital, residents generally refer to the fading Mughal monuments and, to a lesser extent, the lively contemporary art scene at the National College of Arts.

    The university, the country’s largest, has little to do with these two attributes of Lahore. The campus has been a crucible of Islamic radicalism for a decade. Ms. Constable’s visit, she recounts in her new book, “Playing With Fire: Pakistan at War With Itself,” was spurred by the news that students belonging to Jamiat-e-Tulaba, a radical Islamic group affiliated with a national religious party, had beaten a dean who dared to expel some of its members.

    She had not been on the campus for two years. When she arrived in the spring of 2010, she was amazed, she writes, by how much power the group wielded. A student told her: “We are good Muslims, so when on campus boys cross the limits, we have to check them. Some of the values that come from the West do not belong in our society, and we cannot allow them to be practiced on our campus.” When pressed, the student listed: “Things like drugs, music, media, relations with girls.”

    This was not the secular place Ms. Constable once knew. The student’s argument, she noted, “came straight from the Taliban worldview.” Less than a year later an extremist bodyguard assassinated the governor of Punjab, Salman Taseer, a man who belonged to the old Lahore of tolerance.

    The killing was bad enough. More disturbing was the celebration of the killer among lawyers, police officers and clerics as a defender of the faith. “A so-called moderate Muslim society was proving far more fanatical than either its political elite or Western backers had suspected, while its authorities were too intimidated to take on the religious mob,” she writes.

    Ms. Constable meets and talks with many different kinds of Pakistanis — students, landowners, clerics, government ministers, poor women, factory managers, even strangers at bus stops — in a book that she says is designed to introduce the general reader to a complex, little understood nation of immense importance to the United States. She does not seek, she explains at the outset, to ferret out “the secrets of powerful institutions or radical movements” or to delineate the complex, and now rapidly sinking, relationship between Pakistan and the United States.

    Instead, she focuses on the main themes of Pakistani society. She deals with feudalism, the deplorable situation of most Pakistani women, the rotten justice system, the powerful military, the relentless march of religious extremism, and she weaves in interviews, news events and a touch of history.

    For newcomers to Pakistan Ms. Constable’s method may well be satisfying. With deft choices, she illuminates some of the shocking truths about a Muslim country that emerged at the end of Britain’s Indian empire in 1947 with the stated intention of honoring other religions.

    In the well-titled chapter “Hate,” she points out that only one Pakistani has won a Nobel Prize. Abdus Salam, a theoretical physicist, received the honor in 1979. But because he belonged to the Ahmadi Muslim sect, a small minority that is basically outlawed in Pakistan, Mr. Salam is an unknown in Pakistan. “To his homeland Salam’s achievements were an embarrassment and a glitch in the official narrative that Ahmadis are enemies of Islam — infidels to be avoided, mistrusted, and despised.” In contrast A. Q. Khan, a scientist who stole nuclear secrets and then peddled them to rogue states, is hailed as a national hero.

    An intrepid reporter, Ms. Constable is at her best when she ventures among the underclass, the vast majority of the population trapped, she notes, at the bottom of a deeply hierarchical society. At a brick kiln she uncovers violence and desperation. In heat and dust the laborers reap little but mounting indebtedness to the harsh owners. Some of the workers resort to selling their kidneys to the underground organ trade. One man said he was 45 but, after having sold his kidney, looked 60. “The worst part,” he said, “is that I still haven’t paid off my debt.”

    Ms. Constable does not ignore the elite. She writes in general about the corruption of President Asif Ali Zardari and the mixed signals of the chief of army staff, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani. She interviews parliamentarians who for the most part are feudal landowners with an interest in perpetuating the status quo rather than seriously working toward a real democracy. She discusses the support given to Lashkar-e-Taiba and other proxy militant groups that the military uses against India and that foment extremism at home.

    But her resolve to ignore the long, tortured Pakistani-American relationship, and her decision to avoid drawing conclusions about why Pakistan is on such a downward spiral, sells the reader short. Pakistani society is important for Americans to understand because the United States has a strategic interest in a country fraught with the toxic mix of nuclear weapons and Islamic militancy. That radical Islam is growing so rapidly has much to do with the refusal of the civilian leaders to push back against extremism, to run government for the benefit of the citizens rather than themselves. President Zardari was too afraid to attend the funeral of his friend Mr. Taseer, the murdered governor of Punjab. General Kayani did not appear either. It was an ideal moment for one, or both, to appeal to sanity.

    These two leaders have yet to take such a firm stand, and given the anecdotal evidence of the gains of radical Islam accumulated with energy and detail by Ms. Constable, it may be too late.

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    tajender Reply:

    as population tranfer was not part of partition so khoslas and chopdas who came here by mistake should be kicked to their country of origin.

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    Population transfer was an essential part of the equation. That is why the pedophile Jinnah left India and went Pakistan as he had always said Muslim will live in Pakistan and Hindus in India.

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  • Jai Khosla

    Read about polygamist leader Warren Jeffs getting a life sentence for sexually abusing women as young as 12. Prophet Muhammad molested girls as young as 6 years old. he too would been handed down a sentence for life, if not a death sentence, for molesting children.

    August 9, 2011
    Polygamist Leader Gets Life in Prison for Assault
    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

    SAN ANGELO, Texas (AP) — Polygamist leader Warren Jeffs recorded everything he said. Thousands of pages, written with Biblical flourish, about God wanting him to take 12-year-old wives. About those girls needing to sexually please him. About men he banished for not building his temple fast enough.

    Facing his last chance to keep his freedom, Jeffs didn’t say a word.

    He was sentenced to life in prison Tuesday for sexually assaulting one of his child brides — among 24 underage wives prosecutors said Jeffs collected — and received the maximum 20-year punishment on a separate child sex conviction. Jeffs, 55, will not be eligible for parole until he is at least 100 years old.

    The head of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints made no plea for leniency. He ordered his attorneys not to call witnesses during the sentencing phase, and forbade them from making a closing argument Tuesday.

    Less than half an hour later, jurors returned with the harshest punishment possible.

    “He’s a pervert, and the crazy thing is, he perverted his own religion,” his sister, Elaine Jeffs, said after the sentencing. Nearby, police escorted her brother into a waiting patrol car.

    Elaine Jeffs, who left the FLDS in 1984, watched the end to an often bizarre and graphic two-week trial that included one of Jeffs’ top lieutenants and state caseworkers who rounded up nearly 400 children during a 2008 raid at the sect’s Texas ranch. There were a handful of spectators as well, including a retired couple who also sat in on the Casey Anthony trial in Florida.

    Despite the convictions and life sentence, Jeffs remains in control of the FLDS and its roughly 10,000 followers. His most devoted consider him God’s spokesman on earth and a prophet, but his followers were absent in court for the bulk of the trial.

    Jeffs sometimes was, too. He boycotted the sentencing phase, remaining in a courthouse holding cell, and refused to answer state District Judge Barbara Walther when directly questioned Tuesday. Jeffs had represented himself during the conviction phase, and often interrupted court proceedings by contending that he was being persecuted for his religious beliefs.

    The FLDS is a radical offshoot of mainstream Mormonism and believes polygamy brings exaltation in heaven. In closing arguments, prosecutors rejected the idea that the sect had been targeted.

    “The evidence in this case shows that this isn’t a prosecution of a people,” prosecutor Eric Nichols said. “This is a prosecution to protect people.”

    Jurors ignored reporters after the sentencing, quickly walking to their cars that were parked single-file in a blocked-off street and driving away.

    Willie Jessop, a former FLDS spokesman who railed against Texas authorities following the raid but has since disavowed Jeffs, said the heinousness of the charges has left a fractured FLDS community. He said his first goal would be tearing down the guard tower and gates at the Yearning for Zion ranch, which authorities stormed in 2008 and where they collected a trove of evidence against Jeffs.

    That included photos of him kissing the young brides he took in “spiritual marriages” and scratchy audiotapes of him giving girls explicit instructions for sex. His journals speak of casting out men for not being humble, written around the same time Jeffs was photographed in a leather jacket atop a Harley Davidson motorcycle.

    “Everyone in the church has got to take a responsibility for what has taken place,” Jessop said. “In order for this to be fixed going forward, we have to take responsibility. This is a crisis for every single member in the church.”

    Jeffs rose to power in 2002 following his father’s death, and has run the church despite being in police custody in either Arizona or Texas since 2006.

    He’ll be more restricted in whatever Texas prison he ends up in. Jeffs was flown to a prison intake across the state hours after being sentenced. It’s there that prison officials will decide where he will serve his sentence and whether to assign him to the general prison population, safekeeping or protective custody. His telephone calls will be limited to a list of 10 people, and Jeffs will be prohibited from receiving any visitors under age 17.

    Jeffs stood quietly Tuesday as the sentence was read. He must serve at least 45 years in prison: at least 35 years of a life sentence on one of the child sex charges, and at least 10 years on the other.

    During the trial, prosecutors used DNA evidence to show Jeffs fathered a child with a 15-year-old girl and played an audio recording of what they said was him sexually assaulting a 12-year-old.

    “If the world knew what I was doing, they would hang me from the highest tree,” Jeffs wrote in 2005, according to one of his journals.

    Nichols referred to that passage in his closing Tuesday.

    “No, Mr. Jeffs, unlike what you wrote in your priesthood records … we don’t hang convicts anymore from the highest tree. Not even child molesters,” Nichols said.

    Jeffs spent years crisscrossing the country as a fugitive who eventually made the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted list before his capture in 2006. Former church members testified that Jeffs ruled with a heavy and abusive hand, and excommunicated 60 church members he saw as a threat to his leadership.

    Among Jeffs’ most eccentric orders was banning the color red. Rebecca Musser, a former FLDS member who was once a wife of Jeffs’ father, showed up to the sentencing in a deep red dress.

    Prosecutors suggested that the polygamist leader told the girls they needed to have sex with him — in what Jeffs called “heavenly” or “celestial” sessions — in order to atone for sins in his community. Several times in his journals, Jeffs wrote of God telling him to take more and more young girls as brides “who can be worked with and easily taught.”

    When police raided the group’s ranch, they found women dressed in frontier-style dresses and hairdos from the 19th century as well as underage girls who were clearly pregnant. The call that spurred the raid turned out to be a hoax, and hundreds of children were returned to their families.

    Jeffs is the eighth FLDS man convicted since the raid. Previous sentences ranged from six to 75 years in prison.

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    Associated Press writer Mike Graczyk in Houston contributed to this report.

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    abhi Reply:

    “The head of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints made no plea for leniency. He ordered his attorneys not to call witnesses during the sentencing phase, and forbade them from making a closing argument Tuesday.”

    These fanatics strongly believe in afterlife, where they are taught they will get more twelve year olds to molest. So they are not afraid of dying. Sensiblle governments should ban the books that preach such things.

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    You mean ban the Quran and the hadiths ?

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  • Jai Khosla

    “During the trial, prosecutors used DNA evidence to show Jeffs fathered a child with a 15-year-old girl and played an audio recording of what they said was him sexually assaulting a 12-year-old.”

    Muhammad also fathered a child out of wed lock with 15 year old Maria. the boy, Ibrahim, died very young

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    tajender Reply:

    hinduism is the father of rascism apartheism and pornographism.

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    tajender Reply:

    jahil,

    Maria al-Qibtiyya (Arabic: مارية القبطية‎) (alternatively, “Maria Qupthiya”), or Maria the Copt, (died 637) was an Egyptian Coptic Christian (who turned into a Muslim wife of the prophet according to Sunni Islam) slave who was sent as a gift from Muqawqis, a Byzantine official, to the Islamic prophet Muhammad in 628.[1] According to some Islamic accounts, she was Muhammad’s wife, and therefore a “Mother of the Believers” (Arabic: Ummahat-al-Mu’mineen), other sources such as Ibn Qayyim Al-Jawziyya talk about her being only a concubine. She was the mother of Muhammad’s son Ibrahim, who died in infancy. Her sister, Sirin, was also sent to Muhammad. Muhammad gave her to his follower Hassan ibn Thabit.[2] Maria never remarried after Muhammad’s death in 632, and died five years later. Her birthdate is unknown. No primary source mentions her age

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    Maria never became a Muslim and that is why Moe did not marry her. He did promote her to Umm Wallad or honorray mother.

    None of the original books make reference to Maria as ever having married Muhammad.

    It is only modern writer, out of embarassment, that come out with lies such as Maria having married Muhammad, and that Aisha was 12 and not six when Muhammad married her and that Aisha was 15 and not 9 ehn Muhammad first poked the child.

    tajender Reply:

    in islam u can marry a christian lady/jewish without converting her.remaining all thing is lie.she was his wife.
    it is not modern or old ,it is mentioned everywhere.

    u are writing all bullshit and lie.will hardly effect anyone.

    i challanged you to write one parapragh praising hinduism without mentioning islam or muslims.

    Jai Khosla Reply:

    Muhammad di not always follow Islam. Example he killed and looted during Ramzan. he had 12 or more wives at a time plus concubines. He did not marry any non-Muslim women. Maria and Rayhana for example refused to become Muslims, there is no record in the hadiths or the Sirats including Tabari that they converted to Islam or married Muhhamd.

    It is only modern day writers like Haykal, from Egypt, rewrote history because they were embarrassed that Muhammad kept children as concubines and married a six year old child and took her to bed for sex.

    If Moe had married Maria she would not have been given the title umm Walaad. she got the title because slave girls when they got pregnant from their masters and delivered were given this title of honorary mother.

    The Arabs were not embarrassed. Child sex and concubinage were accepted customs. they did not look down upon Muhammad because he was pedophile or kept concubines. It was part of Arab culture.

    Jai Khosla Reply:

    Primary sources such as Ishaq mention her age as 15 when Moe raped her.

    Jai Khosla Reply:

    I find little good in Islam. Muhammad tried to unite the Arabs but he kept women out of this equation. He created the largest lower caste in history: Muslim women.

    had he made Muslim women equal then I would have recognized that Islam was not all evil.

    Zakat is good concept but we have a better system–modern taxation. It is the tax money of the whites that attracts Muslims to teh West. the tax money provides them with welfare and dole and free medical care.

    Ramzan would have been good if Muslims truly fasted but did not abstain from water.

    Depriving the body of water is major crime. It harms the body We should drink fluids every four hours. Muslims do not fast. they reaggrange their meals and merely skip lunch. I skip lunch five days a week when I work and sometimes Saturdays too.

    95% of the time I eat only two meals a day.

    The hajj pilgrimage is colossal waste of money, $10 billion or more per year into Saudi coffers from impoverished Muslims. It should be used instead to educate Muslim children in a secular way.

    Allah and Muhammad and the five times prayer—-> the less we talk about these evils the better off we will be.

  • tajender

    my sakad dada had a illegetimate child usee ki auladein age chal ke hindu kahlayee,unhi meinse eik ne jai khosla ke baap kee ghaand mare jisse yeh chutia paida hua.

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  • Jai Khosla

    It is not too difficult to understand Hinduism

    Hinduism means the entire culture , spiritual values and a general ways of life and it is a conglomeration of religions , philosiphical and culture ideas and practices that originated in India.It is also known as ” Sanatan Dharm” means universal religion and “The Vedic Dharm” means religion of Veds. It is really a vast religion which includes many forms of devotion.

    Hinduism has it’s own beliefs , traditions of ethics , meaningfull rituals, philosophy and theology. The religious traditions of Hinduism is solely responsible for creation of such origin of valuable concepts as Ayurveda , Yogas , Pooja , Vedant , Karma etc.

    Hinduism is the oldest religion of the world.The word “Hindu” is derived from the name of river Indus which flow through northen India. In ancient time the Indus river was called as “Sindhu”. The people were said Hindu and the place was called as Hindusthan.

    What sets Hinduism apart from the Arabic cult of Islam, aka Muhammadanism, is that each Hindu can come up with his own version of God, his own interpretation of God. Hinduism recognizes that God is undefinable, that as soon as you define God a certain way, put words in God’s mouth you are creating an image, an idol.

    Allah is a word idol, a word image, that the pedophile Muhammad created. These are very violent words and are responsible for the violence that Muslims wreak on civilized societies.

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    tajender Reply:

    forget about oldest hiduism is not religion,as per supreme court.

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  • Jai Khosla

    Islam is idolatrous: Muhammad created an idol out of words, a word based image. the idol thus created is Allah and Muslims worship this idol.

    A word idol is more powerful in its harmful effects than the stone idols Hindus sit in front of. for Hindus these idols are merely a tool to concentrate, they do not attribute words to it.

    The evils effects of the words put in Allah’s mouth have a great reach—-they poison the minds of young Muslims males and the result is ongoing terrorism against non-Muslims.

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  • Jai Khosla

    In Hinduism our goal is to make Hinduism better–not to boast that is perfect. It is not perfect.

    I have studied both Islam and Hinduism. Hinduism is far superior to Islam but is not perfect. It is not perfect because Hinduism is man made.

    Islam is also man made, Allah was created by Muhammad. But because Muhammad was an evil man Islam is an evil religion.

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    tajender Reply:

    hinduism is fraud and religion of cheaters and responsible for all evils in india.it keeps indians on the toe for entire year and allows few crooks to make through their innocence.most evil act is to remove the money from circulation and smugglng this to foriegn banks and local ashrams.thus making indians poorer every days.corruption makes them rich.
    hinduism is not religion.
    hate is yr duty and lie staple food.

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  • http://- Rajeev

    Zia and Zia alone is responsible for all the non-sense posted on this blog.

    Zia for once stop being an ideological Jehadi and be just Indian..You are promoting hatred on this forum by continuously posting your myopic Islamic worldview.
    You should be ashamed of yourself..Never I have seen such a communal person in my life. Even Swamy can’t match the kind of hatred that you continuosly show on your blogs.

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    Zia has this job because he is a Muslim.

    In Karachi the Pashtuns and the Muhajirs are killing each other and yet not word from Zia.

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  • tajender

    in india from thousands of years hindus are sucing the blood of indians through idolatory a immora cult.bashisht raped and marriies his mother.karachi is like mumbai,

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    Islam is the truly idolatrous faith. Its word image is more powerful and more evil than any stone idol or paper image.

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    tajender Reply:

    we dont suck the blood of a nation and its people through idolatory.image is truly pwerful as it truely godly.

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    Islam is the most idolatrous of all faiths. the idol Allah that Pedo Muhammad fashioned out of words is the most evil ever created by man.

  • vijay kumar

    ~~ :D :D ~~ T U R D Tajendar NEEDS to swallow 72 LAXATIVES : D :D ~~~

    T U R D ie Tajendar. I adivsed you to eat 72 laxatives so that T urds like hafeez Saeed and Dawood Ibrahim will flow out into ur shit.

    Did you follow the medicine????? :D :D :D

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    tajender Reply:

    this blog is not fit for darzees and dhobees.go back to sharma site.

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    Gopi Thomas Reply:

    http://www.qug.pol.gu.se/publications/charron%20AJPS%20forthcoming.pdf

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    tajender Reply:

    Anna hazare wants to go onto a hunger strike for the second time. We can only laugh at these scoundrels like Ramdev and Anna Hazare. When several of dalit brethren and farmers cannot get to eat two square meals a day these theatrical acts are just a big drama staged by caste hindus. Both ramdev and anna are not against coroporates looting the country. Ramdev has the nerve to talk againt black money when he himself has 1000 crore black money. The Manuwadis are such hypocrites

  • Jai Khosla

    In recent years one Zakir Naik and his co-liar Haq Vidyarthi have been fllodng the internet with lies that Hindu scriptures predicted the birth of the Pedophile prophet Muhammad in the form of Kalki Avatar. the pedophile would have cringed because for all his criminal nature one thing he never claimed was that he was an incarnation of the idol Allah who he believed was God.

    In Hindu terminology an Avatar is an incarnation of God. Muhammad would have considered such claims as blasphemy.

    The amount of manipulation and misdirection we see with these men is astonishing. The Islamic propagators are either grossly misled or are apparently relying on the fact that not enough of their readers will know Sanskrit or bother to look up references.

    They happily mistranslate and use symbolism without any shred of proof.

    One understands their eagerness to prove that Islam is the culmination of every religion. However one has to wonder, if the faith of the writers like these is so insecure that they have to search in other religions for legitimacy.

    Also one has to wonder what this says of other Muslim scholars who have read the Vedas before.

    None of them had ever read any of the meanings that Dr.Naik or Dr.Haq finds; obviously they were either more foolish or less learned than our Dr.Naik/Dr.Haq. However, the climax comes in this assertion: “The Vedas contain many prophecies about Prophet Muhammad. Some European and Hindu translators of the Vedas have removed the name referring to the Prophet, while others have tried to explain away the mantras (verses) on his life events, Ka’bah, Makkah, Medinah, Arabia, and other events using the terminology of the Hindus, such as purification rituals, and lands and rivers in India”.

    In other words, explain what scholars might like, our good Islamic Sanskrit scholar knows that they would be lies.

    Dr.Naik/Dr.Haq operate under the assumption that anyone who tries to refute them is by the very definition a liar. This assertion is a wonderful way of not having to face the truth.

    Of course I personally believe that Haq’s book/ Zakir Naik’s Da’wah material is not meant for either the Hindu or the serious scholar; it is targeted at the Muslims to strengthen their faith so that they will not revert to Hinduism.

    I do not belive that Hinduism is a revealed faith. Nor is any other faith a revealed faith.

    But Islam is a downright evil faith and we must expose it at every turn.

    Zia should expose Naik and his co-liars becuz they are doing more harm to Muhammadanism than SubbuSwamy.

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    tajender Reply:

    dr zakir naik is 100%right.u are a maniac.hinduism lives on lies and fraud.

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  • vijay kumar

    ~~ :D :D ~~ T U R D Tajendar NEEDS to swallow 72 LAXATIVES : D ~~~ Chapter II

    Turdie boy, I said

    T U R D ie Tajendar. I adivsed you to eat 72 laxatives so that T urds like hafeez Saeed and Dawood Ibrahim will flow out into ur shit.

    Did you follow the medicine????? :D :D

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    tajender Reply:

    1603 is better than 72.anyhow 72 is fabricated.

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  • Balwinder Sandhu

    ZIA SAHEB, blog is dead
    be brave
    censor it
    otherwise jai khosla and tajuddin / tajender will drown all

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    tajender Reply:

    but u have no pwer to revive it.challe sikh.261 is not bad.i am travelling so cant awnser more.
    go to sharma blog dont show ur as$ here.just fk off.

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    vijay kumar Reply:

    @ Tajenddar the T U R D :D

    Travelling to Islamabad for getting Tur-ds like Hafeez Saeed and Lakhvi out of your system thru laxatives? :D :D :D

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    tajender Reply:

    i am on the way to houston.this blog is not fit for darzees and dhobees.go back to sharma site.

    tis blog is not for illterate brhmns.

    RAM RAM JAPNA
    PARAYA MAAL APNA.

    Jai Khosla Reply:

    Tajuddin

    Is Skip-lunch-aadaan over or are you still observing the farce of skipping lunch, overeating between sunset and sunrise and then boasting you fasted?

    Jai Khosla Reply:

    I hope you are not working during the day but staying in your masjid and praying to the idol Alla while skipping food and drink between sunrise and sunset.

    tajender Reply:

    during this time i was fking ur chutia immoral bhagwans,best time

  • Gopi Thomas

    http://www.qog.pol.gu.se/publications/charron%20AJPS%20forthcoming.pdf

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    tajender Reply:

    Anna hazare wants to go onto a hunger strike for the second time. We can only laugh at these scoundrels like Ramdev and Anna Hazare. When several of dalit brethren and farmers cannot get to eat two square meals a day these theatrical acts are just a big drama staged by caste hindus. Both ramdev and anna are not against coroporates looting the country. Ramdev has the nerve to talk againt black money when he himself has 1000 crore black money. The Manuwadis are such hypocrites

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    Anna has done a lot fo his people. Unlike Prophet Muhammad he did not rob and kill children.

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    tajender Reply:

    anna has done nothing for indians.it IS high caste hindus elite class pass time.corruption is base of hinduism.it is only a drama to confuse and misled the innocent.
    corruption will finish with hinduism.during moghul period there was no corruption.
    now many many corupts are in jail because of sonia so they called their agent for agitation.
    when britishers started cleaning the perverted voilent brutal hindu society ,fraud ghandhi was called from south africa,
    hinduism survives of mental physical financial corruption.
    KAMASUTRA IS THE ONLY GIFT HINDUS GAVE TO WORLD.

    u bloody punjabi rats are the most corrupt race in india.

  • vijay kumar

    ~~ ~~ T U R D Tajendar NEEDS to swallow 72 LAXATIVES : D ~~~ Chapter II

    Turdie boy, I said

    T U R D ie Tajendar. I adivsed you to eat 72 laxatives so that T urds like hafeez Saeed and Dawood Ibrahim will flow out into ur shit.

    Did you follow the medicine?????
    :D
    :D
    :D

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  • vijay kumar

    @ Tjaendar

    The US aithorities are on the look out for a terrorist and suicide bomber called Mutandar Hussain Turad… Just watch out… :D :D

    Send your pioctures here from GITMO :D :D :D

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    tajender Reply:

    they have bited dust in iraq ,eaten shit in afghanistan are in big mess in libya,looks exhausted wants to have peace,

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  • Jai Khosla

    Pakistan is reverting to Hinduism. Its prisoners are being taught the Hindu practice of Yoga.

    My father used to tell us that humanity has no choice but to become Hindus –vegetarianism, meditation, yoga, the practice of the Hindu Golden rule–Vasudev Kutmbhkam.

    Taj, what are you waiting for. Give up your Arab cult and come back.

    From the NYtimes.

    August 18, 2011
    Volunteer Teaches Yoga to Pakistani Female Prison Inmates
    By REUTERS

    KARACHI (Reuters) – Behind the high walls and gates of the only prison for women in Pakistan’s commercial hub, inmates such as Sadaf escape from prison every day — even if it’s only in her mind.

    Small and thin, with friendly eyes set in a weathered face, Sadaf has been an inmate since 1998 after being convicted of kidnapping. But she says she’s much calmer and hopeful thanks to an innovative yoga program for the prison’s inhabitants.

    “Though my surroundings haven’t changed, my life has and I have yoga to be thankful for,” she said in an interview with Reuters in the prison courtyard.

    Sadaf, along with other inmates, has been taking yoga classes from volunteer instructor Aisha Chapra for almost a year and a half as a way to cope with the rough life of prison.

    Pakistan’s prisons have a reputation as brutal holding pens, but wardens and jail administrators praise the program for calming the inmates and preparing them for eventual release.

    “I have seen a great change in the girls since they started doing yoga,” said Sheeba Shah, a police official and administrator of the prison. “They have become less stressful and you can see a more positive attitude.”

    Chapra partly took her inspiration from the Bhopal Central Jail in India, which holds some of India’s most notorious convicts. Since yoga classes have started there, incidents of violence have dropped and inmates report a greater control over anger.

    The Indian government gives prisoners an incentive to do yoga: for every three months they remain in the program, their jail sentences are reduced by 15 days.

    Pakistan, however, has no such incentive yet.

    PERSONAL HEALING

    Yoga helped Chapra heal personally, too, when she felt lost and trapped by life.

    Chapra used to be a social worker in Toronto’s rougher neighborhoods, where she witnessed gang violence and drug abuse. But following the dissolution of her marriage, she returned to Pakistan in June 2009.

    Looking for something to occupy herself, she turned to the ancient art of yoga.

    “Yoga helped me survive and provided me a lot of relief,” she said. “And because yoga was my way of healing, I figured I should help others learn to heal themselves, especially those who cannot afford to do so.”

    So in October 2009, she offered to teach yoga to the inmates in Karachi, who have since responded enthusiastically.

    “Yoga has given me peace of mind, it takes away all my tension,” said Yasmeen Arif, who has been in jail for the past three years for kidnapping. “Since we started yoga, with time, I have learned to channel my frustration and anger toward being more calm.”

    Chapra also raises funds for the inmates so she can buy them small comforts. She started small, buying them yoga mats. Then she raised funds for items such as soap, shampoo and feminine products.

    “I teach yoga at another location and the money I get from teaching, I divert the funds for what the inmates might need,” said Chapra.

    Chapra’s students say the program is vital to their present — and future — prospects.

    “I have become a yoga addict now,” said Sadaf, who says she is 24, but looks a decade older, told Reuters. She said she would be released next month and would continue practicing yoga.

    “I know now when I step outside, I have been enabled with the tools required to cope with everyday life,” said Sadaf.

    (Editing by Chris Allbritton and Ed Lane)

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    The Golden Rule of Hinduism is

    VASUDEV KUTUMBHKAM

    To which I add

    SARV KALYANAM PRATHMO DHARAMO

    All beings are one family

    The welfare of all is our prime obligation.

    That is why I am trying to do good to Tajuddin.

    I am trying to rescue him from the clutches of Islam, a harmful Arabic cult.

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    tajender Reply:

    Was Mahatma Gandhi gay? A new book by Pulitzer-Prize winning author Joseph Lelyveld claims the god-like Indian figure not only left his wife for a man, but also harbored racist attitudes.Gandhi, who led India to independence and is a universal symbol of peaceful resistance, had another side — a more human one. In a biography that hit stores this week — “Great Soul: Mahatma Gandhi and his Struggle With India,” former New York Times reporter Lelyveld insists that Gandhi was gay, or at least bisexual.
    His lover was Hermann Kallenbach, a German-Jewish architect and bodybuilder. The couple built their love nest during Gandhi’s time in South Africa where he arrived as a 23-year-old law clerk in 1893 and lived for 21 years, Lelyveld writes

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    MKK Reply:

    Where did this come from? What is the context that you are bringing out? How about Muslims killing other Muslims during Ramadan? How does that feel?

    tajender Reply:

    islam is best religion it stand on equality and opened war on interest economy which has enslaved the entire humanity.and root cause of all evils in the world.u brhmnsts are supporters of this evil system.

    baaki sab bakwas hai.

    anna hazare is cheater like ghandhi.this weak lokpal bill is passed from parliament.he should make this as an election issue fight election and impose anything he wants.WHAT HE IS DOING IS BLACKMAILING.SAME WHAT HIS MENTOR USED TO DO.with the support of high caste toilet paper media.

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    MKK Reply:

    Equality my foot!

    Islamic countries cannot withstand other religions at all amongst their midst. Just look around and test out this statement.

    tajender Reply:

    islam donnot prohibit yoga.it is in school in malaysia.in pakistan it was practised from long time.their teachers are better than indian teacher.only thing they have no frauds like ramdeo or sree sree.
    brhmns being lazy cheaters and story makers brands everything sellabale to foolish hindus .diwali and holy are festivals connected with crop how it has become hindu.for this fraud they organize communal roits.lie spreading compaign.

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    tajender Reply:

    yoga is hindu art of deceiving and cheating.i know sree sree who runs his racket from banglore
    he is big cheater and now in hot demand,

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  • tajender

    SARV KALYANAM PRATHMO DHARAMO

    rubbish casteism is base of hinduismu are all no.1 liars.see what have u done to vivekanand .

    hinduism is the only religion which says that manis born unequal.when u were in power no shudra women or backward was supposed to go to school.u only created jokers whom u call bhagwan ,to loot and cheat people.give me the name of one educated women shudra or backward during hindu period.

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    MKK Reply:

    You criticize caste system and I agree. But do not think that Islam does not have a caste system. At least Hindus have been open about it while Muslims practice it but do not acknowledge it. Cheater are everywhere just the methods differ.

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  • tajender

    brhmncl punishment to local indians also called dalit,whose murder is not sin as per bhagwat geeta.
    Brahmin punishment to shudras
    Christening: Good and auspicious names should be given to the Brahmins only. Kshatriyas should be given names connoting braveness and valour. Vaisyas’s name should be based on articles.
    Sudras alone should be given names meaning disgrace and degradation. Further the word “Dasan” should be the suffix for all the sudra names. (Chap.2, S.31 and 32).
    A Brahmin’s “Poonul” (thread) should be made of cotton. Khatriyas Poonul should be made 3 of janappa threads. Vaisyas Poonul should be made of goat’s hair. (Chap. 2.S.44).
    Pigs & sudras: Any eatable article becomes polluted and unfit for consumption when:
    (1) A pig dashes against, (2) hens and **** fly over, (3) when a dog looks at, (4) when a sudra touches. (Chap.3.S.241).
    Any one, who offers anything eatable to a sudra after the ceremony will go to hell. Such a fool will be punished there. He will have to live there upside down. (Chap.3.S.249).
    If the Brahmins happen to eat anything that has been tasted or touched by a sudra, that Brahmin should have intercourse with his wife that night and the dead will live in the motion of the wife for a month (Chap.3.S.250).
    There are seven varieties of sudras:
    (1) He who retreats in a war. (2) A prisoner in a war. (3) One who serves a Brahmin out of devotion. (4) Son of a prostitute. (5) One who is purchased. (6) One who is adopted. (7) One who is a traditional worker. (Chap.8.S.415).
    Duties of the sudra: A sudra worships a Brahmin either for salvation or for his livelihood. It will be a good thing for him if he calls all others inferior to Brahmins. (Chap.10.S.122).
    As the Kshatriyas have failed to perform rituals and as they neglected to worship the Brahmins, they are becoming sudras (Chap.10.S.43).
    In any congregation, the Brahmin alone should eat first. If there is balance of food, that alone should be given to others. New clothes should be worn by Brahmins only and when they become old and torn they should be given to others. A sudra is entitled to receive only these. (Chap.8.S.125)
    It is the duty of the king to order the sudra to serve the Brahmins. If the sudra refuses he should be punished and forced. (Chap.10.S.235).
    A Brahmin could extract work from the sudra paying or without paying. Brahma has created the sudra only to work for the Brahmins. (Chap.8.S.413).

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    tajender Reply:

    It is the main duty of the sudra to serve the other communities without jealousy. For his service he may get wages. (Chap.1.S.91).
    Exploitation: The wealth of the sudra who does not perform yagna is to be deemed as the property of the Asuras. So his wealth could be plundered.. (Chap.7.S.248).
    The wealth of the sudra could be forcibly plundered. No consent is needed. There need not be any hesitation. (Chap.11.S.13).
    Even if a sudra is in a position to earn, he should not earn anything more than what is needed to his family. If any sudra does so, he may go against the Brahmins and be tortured. (Chap.10.S.126).
    Punishment to sudras: If a sudra talks ill of a Brahmin his tongue should be cut off. (Chap.8.S.270).
    If a sudra pronounces the name of a Brahmin or talks of his caste or accuses him, an iron rod ten inches long should be heated red-hot and thrust into the mouth of the sudra. (Chap.8.S.271).
    If the sudra dictates the Brahmin to do a particular thing, boiled oil should be poured into the mouth and ears of the sudra. (Chap.8.S.272).
    If the sudra hits at Brahmin’s hair beard, legs, neck, penis, his hands must be cut off. (Chap.8.S.283).
    If the sudra sits in a seat along with a Brahmin, his hips should be scorched or he should be driven away from the town. (Chap.8.s.281).

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    MKK Reply:

    At least the world is moving on but you want to be stuck in the past and want to go back to the 6th century. Not only that you want everybody to go back there too.

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  • vijay kumar

    @ Tajendar

    Seems that you had the laxatives… shite has started rolling out… :D :D

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    tajender Reply:

    Was Mahatma Gandhi gay? A new book by Pulitzer-Prize winning author Joseph Lelyveld claims the god-like Indian figure not only left his wife for a man, but also harbored racist attitudes.Gandhi
    read completely.

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  • tajender

    VIJAY NEED UR EXPERT COMMENT, Was Mahatma Gandhi gay? A new book by Pulitzer-Prize winning author Joseph Lelyveld claims the god-like Indian figure not only left his wife for a man, but also harbored racist attitudes.Gandhi, who led India to independence and is a universal symbol of peaceful resistance, had another side — a more human one. In a biography that hit stores this week — “Great Soul: Mahatma Gandhi and his Struggle With India,” former New York Times reporter Lelyveld insists that Gandhi was gay, or at least bisexual.
    His lover was Hermann Kallenbach, a German-Jewish architect and bodybuilder. The couple built their love nest during Gandhi’s time in South Africa where he arrived as a 23-year-old law clerk in 1893 and lived for 21 years, Lelyveld writes
    THANK U.

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  • tajender

    KHOSLA,Both Zionism and Brahminism thrive and survive only on wars, blood, hatred and lies. The zionists invented “terror”, meaning Muslims. And the copycat Brahminists followed it.

    The Lie is mightier and deadlier than the Hydrogen Bomb. The Bomb merely devastates. The Lie steals our souls, says Henry Makow.

    Muslims not terrorists: If “terrorism” did not exist the racist Israel could not have been created. Brahminists repeated this terrorist lie and today India is full of “terrorism”. Every day new and newer terrorism is invented. The two evil forces killing the world are playing upon “terrorism” to destroy the society’s immune system.

    Muslims are not terrorists. They are victims of the Brahminical terrorism, the twin founders of the Satanic Cult.

    Both the zionists and Brahminists do not believe in god. But they sell god to us to deceive us and make money. They threaten us and bully us in the name of god. They believe not in god — but Satan.

    A Satanic Cult governs the world. This cult will die with the World War-III. We assure you.

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  • Rizwan

    Dear Vijay
    I have read you on Vinod Sharma’s blog, you seem to be a nice person. Could I ask at least you to desist from arguing with tajender- serves no purpose. This blog has sadly died- the good ones are driven away by some very unpleasant abuse by some very ugly people.
    tajender, we are both followers of a beautiful religion called islam. When the prophet was insulted by a mad woman he did not retaliate. Follow his example, ignore jai khosla.
    let this blog flourish again.

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    In Yathrib, now known as Medina, Muhammad had a number of people murdered. One of them was `Asma’ bint Marwan, a renowned poetess. Her crime was that she exposed Muhammad as

    a fake and spoke out against Muhammad for having another man murdered named Abu Afak. In his displeasure towards her, Muhammad asked his followers to murder her as well. She was

    killed while she slept with her four young children.

    After Muhammad came to Yathrib he began to grow in power. However, a number of people, both Jew and Arab, opposed him because they recognized him as a fake and a criminal, a power

    grabber with low moral values.. Muhammad began to silence his opposition by various means. One of these means was to have them murdered. He would also bribe them. Muhammad did have

    a number of enemies and critics, some were dangerous, others were ordinary people who lived in the area and thought nil of Muhammad. They spoke their minds.

    One by one, they were silenced. Through treaties, intrigue, or outright terror, Muhammad gained power in Medina. Eventually, he was master of the area. He knew his followers loved him, and

    would die for him. They were at his disposal; and at times, he chose to use them to accomplish his desires.

    From the Sirat Rasul Allah (A. Guilaume’s translation “The Life of Muhammad”) pages 675, 676.

    `UMAYR B. `ADIYY’S JOURNEY TO KILL `ASMA’ D. MARWAN

    She was of B. Umayyya b. Zayd. When Abu `Afak had been killed she displayed disaffection. `Abdullah b. al-Harith b. Al-Fudayl from his father said that she was married to a man of B. Khatma

    called Yazid b. Zayd. Blaming Islam and its followers she said:

    I despise B. Malik and al-Nabit
    and `Auf and B. al-Khazraj.
    You obey a stranger who is none of yours,
    One not of Murad or Madhhij.
    Do you expect good from him after the killing of your chiefs
    Like a hungry man waiting for a cook’s broth?
    Is there no man of pride who would attack him by surprise
    And cut off the hopes of those who expect aught from him?

    When the apostle heard what she had said he said, “Who will rid me of Marwan’s daughter?” `Umayr b. `Adiy al-Khatmi who was with him heard him, and that very night he went to her house

    and killed her. In the morning he came to the apostle and told him what he had done and Muhammad said, “You have helped God and His apostle, O `Umayr!” When he asked if he would have to

    bear any evil consequences the apostle said, “Two goats won’t butt their heads about her”, so `Umayr went back to his people.

    Now there was a great commotion among B. Khatma that day about the affair of bint [daughter of] Marwan. She had five sons, and when `Umayr went to them from the apostle he said, “I have

    killed bint Marwan, O sons of Khatma. Withstand me if you can; don’t keep me waiting.” That was the first day Islam became powerful among B. Khatma; before that those who were Muslims

    concealed the fact. The first of them to accept Islam was `Umayr b. `Adiy who was called the “Reader”, and `Abdullah b. Aus and Khuzayma b. Thabit. The day after Bint Marwan was killed the

    men of B. Khatma became Muslims because they saw the power of Islam. ”

    This is how Muhammad dealt with people who were a threat to him. The mad woman Rizwan refers to was not a threat to Muhammad. That is why he did not kill her.

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    Gopi Thomas Reply:

    Rizwan

    wherw eer u

    How is your rose in Lahore?

    How is the business?

    All the best

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  • Jai Khosla

    There will be hectic building activity in the center of Islam’s shameful apartheid against non-Muslims, that is in Mecca.

    Saudi Arabia has begun the biggest expansion yet of Islam’s holiest site, the Grand Mosque in Mecca, to raise its capacity to 2 million pilgrims, the state news agency SPA said.

    It did not say how much it will cost to add 400,000 square metres to the mosque’s area or how long the project will take.

    The Grand Mosque is the main attraction for over 6 million pilgrims who enter Mecca each year and is the focal point for a transformation is modernising one of the oldest cities in the region with high-rise skyscrapers and residential blocks.

    Muslims waste some 12 billion dollars a year on this pagan pilgrimage instead of spending it on more useful activities such as the education of children.

    The mosque is built around the Kaaba shrine, which allegedly existed centuries before Islam emerged over 1,400 years ago. Muslims around the world turn towards it for daily prayers. Historians believe that the current cube was built in the 13th or 14th century.

    However there was a temple of sorts in the place where some 360 idols were worshiped of which the current idol, Allah, was worshiped.

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  • Jai Khosla

    From Malick’s Muwatta. The wife is a dirty object in Islam.

    Book 2, Number 2.17.66:

    Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab from Salim ibn Abdullah that his father Abdullah ibn Umar used to say, “A man’s kissing his wife and fondling her with his hands are part of intercourse. Someone who kisses his wife or fondles her with his hand must do wudu.”

    Book 2, Number 2.17.67:

    Yahya related to me from Malik that he had heard that Abdullah ibn Masud used to say, “Wudu is necessary if a man kisses his wife.”

    Book 2, Number 2.17.68:

    Yahya related to me from Malik that Ibn Shihab used to say, “Wudu is necessary if a man kisses his wife.” Nafi said that Malik said, “That is what I like most out of what I have heard.”

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  • Jai Khosla

    From the wonderful world of Islam.

    Malik’s Muwatta

    Section: Non-Returnable Deposits
    Book 31, Number 31.1.1:

    Yahya related to me from Malik from a reliable source from Amr ibn Shuayb from his father from his father’s father that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, forbade transactions in which nonrefundable deposits were paid.

    Malik said, “That is, in our opinion, but Allah knows best, that for instance, a man buys a slave or slave-girl or rents an animal and then says to the person from whom he bought the slave or leased the animal, ‘I will give you a dinar or a dirham or whatever on the condition that if I actually take the goods or ride what I have rented from you, then what I have given you already goes towards payment of the goods or hire of the animal. If I do not purchase the goods or hire the animal, then what I have given you is yours without liability on your part.’ ”

    Malik said, “According to the way of doing things with us there is nothing wrong in bartering an arabic speaking merchant slave for abyssinian slaves or any other type that are not his equal in eloquence, trading, shrewdness, and know-how. There is nothing wrong in bartering one slave like this for two or more other slaves with a stated delay in the terms if he is clearly different. If there is no appreciable difference between the slaves, two should not be bartered for one with a stated delay in the terms even if their racial type is different.”

    Malik said, “There is nothing wrong in selling what has been bought in such a transaction before taking possession of all of it as long as you receive the price for it from some one other than the original owner.”

    Malik said, “An addition to the price must not be made for a foetus in the womb of its mother when she is sold because that is gharar (an uncertain transaction). It is not known whether the child will be male or female, good-looking or ugly, normal or handicapped, alive or dead. All these things will affect the price.”

    Malik said that in a transaction where a slave or slave-girl was bought for one hundred dinars with a stated credit period that if the seller regretted the sale there was nothing wrong in him asking the buyer to revoke it for ten dinars which he would pay him immediately or after a period and he would forgo his right to the hundred dinars which he was owed.

    Malik said, “However, if the buyer regrets and asks the seller to revoke the sale of a slave or slave-girl in consideration of which he will pay an extra ten dinars immediately or on credit terms, extended beyond the original term, that should not be done. It is disapproved of because it is as if, for instance, the seller is buying the one hundred dinars which is not yet due on a year’s credit term before the year expires for a slave-girl and ten dinars to be paid immediately or on credit term longer than the year. This falls into the category of selling gold for gold when delayed terms enter into it.”

    Malik said that it was not proper for a man to sell a slave-girl to another man for one hundred dinars on credit and then to buy her back for more than the original price or on a credit term longer than the original term for which he sold her. To understand why that was disapproved of in that case, the example of a man who sold a slave-girl on credit and then bought her back on a credit term longer than the original term was looked at. He might have sold her for thirty dinars with a month to pay and then buy her back for sixty dinars with a year or half a year to pay. The outcome would only be that his goods would have returned to him just like they were and the other party would have given him thirty dinars on a month’s credit against sixty dinars on a year or half a year’s credit. That was not to be done.

    Section: Wealth of Slaves
    Book 31, Number 31.2.2:

    Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi from Abdullah ibn Umar that Umar ibn al-Khattab said, “If a slave who has wealth is sold, that wealth belongs to the seller unless the buyer stipulates its inclusion.”

    Malik said, “The generally agreed upon way of doing things among us is that if the buyer stipulates the inclusion of the slave’s property whether it be cash, debts, or goods of known or unknown value, then they belong to the buyer, even if the slave possesses more than that for which he was purchased, whether he was bought for cash, as payment for a debt, or in exchange for goods. This is possible because a master is not asked to pay zakat on his slave’s property. If a slave has a slave-girl, it is halal for him to have intercourse with her by his right of possession. If a slave is freed or put under contract (kitaba) to purchase his freedom, then his property goes with him. If he becomes bankrupt, his creditors take his property and his master is not liable for any of his debts.”

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    Jai Khosla Reply:

    Book 43, Number 43.14.8a:

    Yahya related to me from Malik that he had heard that Said ibn al-Musayyab and Sulayman ibn Yasar said, “The head wound of the slave in which the bone is bared is a twentieth of his price.”

    Malik related to me that he had heard that Marwan ibn al-Hakam gave a decision about a slave who was injured that the person who injured him had to pay what he had diminished of the value of the slave.

    Malik said, “What is done in our community is that for the head wound of a slave that bares the bone, there is a twentieth of his price. The head wound which splinters the bone is three twentieths of his price. Both the wound to the brain and the belly wound are a third of his price. Besides these four, any other types of injury that decrease the price of the slave are considered after the slave is better and well, and one sees what the value of the slave is after his injury and what his value whole was before he had the injury. Then the one who injured him pays the difference between the two values.”

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    drzusiddiqui Reply:

    Dear Khosla, your researches on islam should have been eye-opener to muslims. But unfortunately they will not pay any heed to you. Do you know the reason? You know nothing about Islam. Please continue with your research and perhaps one day when you are tired of this futile exercise then you will realise that it was only your hatred towards Islam that caused you so much anguish.
    In Quran Allah declares that through a verse of Quran the righteous people get guidance and the rest are misled.
    If you had done so much research in Hinduism with positive mind, you could have really achieved something. Leave Islam alone. If Muslims are devil and Islam is a cult, pray to your god to take care of them, because you have not taken care of them. You always submitted to them. The presence of over a billion muslims in the world today, indeed the highest religious group in the world speaks of your failure.
    You will always look at the Arab word to condemn Islam. Cannot you see hundreds of thousands of muslim intellectuals in India itself, who have immensely contributed to the progress of India. If you are in any doubt, answer the following questions?
    1. Who was the president of Congress party, the party representing India, when India got its freedom?
    2. Who was the first education minister of India?
    3. Who was the only space scientist president of India?
    4, How many presidents of India have been Muslims?

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  • Jai Khosla

    From the gem, Muwatta.

    Book 31, Number 31.5.6:

    Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi that Abdullah ibn Umar would say, “A man should not have intercourse with a slave girl except one whom, if he wished, he could sell, if he wished, he could give away, if he wished, he could keep, if he wished, he could do with her what he wanted .”

    Malik said that a man who bought a slave-girl on condition that he did not sell her, give her away, or do something of that nature, was not to have intercourse with her. That was because he was not permitted to sell her or to give her away, so if he did not own that from her, he did not have complete ownership of her because an exception had been made concerning her by the hand of someone else. If that sort of condition entered into it, it was a messy situation, and the sale was not recommended.

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  • Jai Khosla

    ook 43, Number 43.7.5:

    Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab from Abu Salama ibn Abd ar-Rahman ibn Awf from Abu Hurayra that a woman from the Hudhayl tribe threw a stone at a woman from the same tribe, and she had a miscarriage. The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, gave a judgement that a slave or slave-girl of fair complexion and excellence should be given to her.

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  • Jai Khosla

    Book 43, Number 43.7.6:

    Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab from Said ibn al-Musayyab that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, gave a judgement that the compensation for a foetus killed in its mother’s womb was a slave or slave-girl of fair complexion and excellence. The one against whom the judgement was given said, “Why should I pay damages for that which did not drink or eat or speak or make any cry. The like of that is nothing.” The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, “This is only one of the brothers of the diviners.” He disapproved of the rhyming speech of the man’s declaration.

    Yahya related to me from Malik that Rabia ibn Abi Abd ar-Rahman said, “The slave of fair complexion and excellence is estimated at fifty dinars or six hundred dirhams. The blood-money of a free muslim woman is five hundred dinars or six thousand dirhams.”

    Malik said, “The blood-money of the foetus of a free woman is a tenth of her blood-money. The tenth is fifty dinars or six hundred dirhams.”

    Malik said, “I have not heard anyone dispute that there is no slave in compensation for the foetus until it leaves its mother’s womb and falls still-born from her womb . ”

    Malik said, “I heard that if the foetus comes out of its mother’s womb alive and then dies, the full blood-money is due for it.”

    Malik said, “The foetus is not alive unless it cries at birth. If it comes out of its mother’s womb and cries out and then dies, the complete blood-money is due for it. We think that the slave-girl’s foetus has a tenth of the price of the slave-girl.”

    Malik said, “When a woman murders a man or woman, and the murderess is pregnant, retaliation is not taken against her until she has given birth. If a woman who is pregnant is killed intentionally or unintentionally, the one who killed her is not obliged to pay anything for her foetus. If she is murdered, then the one who killed her is killed and there is no blood-money for her foetus. If she is killed accidentally, the tribe obliged to pay on behalf of her killer pays her blood-money, and there is no blood-money for the foetus.”

    Yahya related to me, “Malik was asked about the foetus of the christian or jewish woman which was aborted. He said, ‘I think that there is a tenth of the blood-money of the mother for it.’ “

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  • Anil

    Callign a terrorists terrorist is not anti islam your nonsensical spin doctoring aside

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