Bihar’s Muslim achievers are storming in. Make way



Bihar Anjuman, an Islam-based non-profit in the eastern state, admittedly came to being to fulfill a Quranic command. It is to be found in the third chapter of the Muslim holy book: “Let there arise out of you a group designed to carry out Allah’s order in inviting people to what is good, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong. And it is they who are the successful.” (The Qur’an 3:104)

The non-profit used this verse as a call to action. “Let’s put our unspent energy to constructive use,” Bihar Anjuman states. It spurs Muslims to move forward, not sit back and lament. A majority of India’s Muslims experience low literacy and high poverty rates.

Bihar Anjuman’s website gives a quick clue to what’s going on. Its home page pops up with some really exciting offers. Take this one: “Rahbar Coaching Centre, Rafiganj (Aurangabad): Classes start 2nd April 2010.”

Or this one: “We’re hiring part-time teachers for Science and Maths (teach 3 hours, before or after school hours, to earn Rs. 3,000 per month).”

This is even better: “Female teachers required, in Samastipur district of Bihar, for all subjects (primary and basic school CBSE and Islamic curriculum): Salary Rs. 3,000 to Rs. 4,000.”

And this one no less significant: “Coaching project to reduce school drop-outs:”

There’s also a package deal: “Project Proposal: Madarsa RAHBAR-e-Banat:
Free holistic education to poor girls (Islamic + contemporary education + vocational training), with residential facility.”

The non-profit also helps Muslims find a match through its free matrimonial service.

Its main objective is to bring together “Muslims from all walks of life to interact and act jointly with an objective to educate, motivate, inspire and instill confidence in our young generation”.

Breaking the glass ceiling

This year, Bihar’s Muslims have created a record of sorts. Muslim candidates have scored in the Bihar Public Service Commission (BPSC) examinations, 2010. Of 362 successful candidates, 37 are Muslims. That’s about 10.22%, statistically significant.

Muslims make up 13.4 per cent of India’s population, yet hold less than 5 per cent of government posts and make up only 4 per cent of undergraduates in universities, according to a November 2006 government report. Click here.

The total number of students appearing for Bihar’s civil services exams was 893. So, even the failure rates of Muslim candidates have dropped, it can be inferred.

In the administrative services category, 12 Muslim candidates were selected among 164. (They are Mohammad Ishtiyaq Ajmal, Mohammad Mustaqeem, Mohammad Shafeeq, Mohammad Mustaqeem, Mohaamad Irfan Alam, Ishtiyaq Alam Ansari, Ehsan Ahmad, Iftikhar Ahmad, Mohammad Ziyaurrahman, Mohammad Manzoor Alam, Mohammad Sibghatullah and Mohammad Zafar Hussain.)

While in the Bihar Police Services, 8 Muslim students were among the 40 successful candidates. (Mohammad Aftab Alam, Noorul Haq, Shaharyar Akhter, Shamsh Afroz, Nisar Ahmad Shah, Mohammad Shahban Habib Fakhri, Anwar Javed Ansari, and Mohammad Tanweer Ahmad.)
In the list of 27 successful candidates for Commercial Tax Officers, there are five Muslims. (S.M. Irshad Arif. Majid Ahmad, Amir Nayyer, Asadullah Ghalib Ansari and Mukhtar Akram.)

There are 8 Muslims among 41 selected for the post of additional electoral officers. (Suhail Ahmad, Muneer Shaikh, Mohammad Ghazali, Javed Iqbal, Mohammad Nazrul Haq, Sarfraz Nawaz, Mohammad Ashraf Afroz, and Parveen Jahan.)

Among the 19 selected as labour superintendents, a couple of Muslims made the cut. (Mohammad Aftab Alam and Javed Rahmat.) Mohammad Sattar Ansari is among the 12 selected to be excise inspectors. Likewise, Asghar Alam Khan is the lone Muslim among 19 selected for Bihar Education Services.

Muslims don’t need to be Nobel winners to change things. They just need to be educated and gainfully employed. Small steps forward make a big difference.

Educated Muslims not just do well for themselves; they also open a whole new door for many others. They serve not just this country good but also their parents and children. They bring dignity to a community whose ways are doubted and capabilities are questioned.

They will pull generations out of poverty. When one generation of Muslims breaks the barriers of disadvantages, life becomes easy for many others that follow. But it is important to remember what makes this possible — access to education.

My message to young Muslims: try. Imagine a man about to drown. He doesn’t give up. If you fail, try once more. Every failure must be followed by a renewed shot at success. If we become worthy sons of the soil, we only help ourselves.

I am stubborn in my belief that, with a little help, we shall overcome. We will overcome.

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  • Gopi Thomas

    Well, Zia has finally nailed the issue — Muslims have to help themselves instead of blaming everybodya nd everything else.. Zia should use these examples instead of why somebody did not get an apartment.. Would these boys/girls have won such an impressive share if there was systemetized conspiracy to hold them back!

    India will be numero ono with all contributing…

    Muslims, stop complaining, start learnin g and particpating as these guys have shown.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    It looks like much hated NDA (BJP led) is changing fate of muslims.

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    ishwar Reply:

    Nice observation, Rajeev.

    No matter what the NDA govt. does for them, these Muslims would rarely give them the credit.

    When they would be asked to vote in next elections, they would undoubtedly vote for a non BJP-NDA party. I am not complaining. I am simply waiting for the day when they would realise who is doing what for them.

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    Sam Reply:

    Hi Ishwar

    It is a wrong thinking that muslims hate BJA. but it is the other way round. Think about the Babri Masjid. These BJP leaders where in the forefront in the demolization process.But what action /punishment was given by Govt./Judiciary to the front runners in this movement.Trust goes in these ways.Then the Gujarat action where Modi and his caders where involved what action ? Where does the truest remain. BJA should mend his ways. I will never come to power on its own if its does not learn to take all caste and religion together.You have taken action for Mumbai roits and Godra incidents but still all muslim waits to see the real culprits to be brought to book and you wants him to be the next PM of this country. I will never happen dear.He should learn to take all people of this country together. Do you know what was the reason for the Godra carnage, no . and you never wanted to know either as it will point fingures at the Kar Savaks who was there in that train.They were misbehaving eith the Muslim hawkers selling tea on the platforms. It started with this small incident.One should not hurt others sentiments.The Mumbai roits is due the the demolization of Babri Masjid. The who are the provocators of such event?. So please tell your brothers to treat human beings as human and not as commodities.Young generation are not enclined towards religion and if this haterate of people thenext generation will become the same and the US/Canada type culture where people is fun loving.
    Regards

    Protaganist Reply:

    The credit of killing thousands of Muslims in Gujarat. The credit of destroying the Babri Mosque. You need to grow up. Muslims or for that matter anyone will never vote for someone who is out with trishuls to kill them. Get some sense before writing such comments.

    Tariq Reply:

    While Muslims have to indeed help themselves to progress in this country, it is not like their complaints are based on lies.

    Muslims have been discriminated against, have been the victims of political violence and skewed economic policies. India’s Muslims will just have to work harder to succeed in this country.

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    DUDE Reply:

    oh discriminated against hmmmmmm ….what about the hindus of pakistan, or afghanistan?

    what about the mass genocides that the mogols and mullahs did to the true iranian zoroastrian persian people?

    what about the mass conversions by the sword in a ‘convert or die’ attitude when the mogols reached india?

    what about the partition of india where a whole muslim country was created just for muslims?

    why aren’t you in pakistan?

    dont complian about discrimination when islam has desecrated 1000’s of temples to build dtheir mosques on and the injustices that have gone unnoticed by the world at the hands of muslims and their oppressive jihadi ways againts non muslims!

    learn history! convert back to your ancestral religion!

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    Raj Reply:

    Good one buddy.. its time the muslims realize that they should not complain of discrimination in non-muslim countries when in muslim countries they actually wipe out non-muslims and dont even let them exist.

    Sam Reply:

    Hi Dudu,

    You still live in the hatred world. Change yourself. You must know that the first human being of this world were ADAM and EVE and if that is so then you are one of the descendants of Amam and Eve. So all human beings follwoing any religion are one and same, coming the same tree of Adam and Eve. So love people do not hate them.
    May God bless you.
    Regards,

    amit Reply:

    Who told you Adam and Eve were first person; you tainted ,biased Christian!

    Protaganist Reply:

    Why aren’t you in Nepal, which is a Hindu rashtrya? If you have a thinking of a ****** who is full of hatred, then India is no country for you because India is secular, if you have the guts why not travel to a Hindu country? Muslims have and will always be here so go and fly a kite if you have complaints, because this country does not belong to some saffronized mad man ! It belongs to all who live here. So dude, i hope you get a life !

    george Reply:

    When you are a minority,discrimination will be a part of life.this is worse in muslim countries,pakistan and bangladesh,when you are a non-muslim. Mind you,hindus in bangladesh and pakistan ,are far more educated than muslims in India.

    Saying that,moaning and doing nothing is typical of muslims in general. This is also true in the christian west where muslim children are far behind than hindus and sikhs. Obsession for religion,no matter how much you deny,is a prime reason for the muslim backwardness in education.

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    Protaganist Reply:

    I think your mind needs a plastic surgery buddy. Islam is the most growing religion in the world and some illicit thinkers like you can go and holler and slander it from roof tops. It ain’t matter because dogs bark at anything that is moving faster than them. If still in doubt, then go back to your history books, if they have books where you are surviving.

    neela Reply:

    Gopi, this will not cut ice with you but just for the record: in an instututionalised democratic set-up like india, when rights are guaranteed, discrimination is never open and blatant. It’s always sutle. The housing discrimination is a glaring example. But how do nut cases understand that. Right Go-pee?

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    Gopi Thomas Reply:

    @neela

    So why are Muslims in Pakistan, Sudan, Egypt, KSA –name it–in any of the 57 OIC places…why are they lagging miserably behind..Why are so few books published in those countries..Who is holding them back.. Own upto the big gurilla in the room –it is Islam and its built in blockades.

    I am glad that Bihar Muslims have started taking initiative to be a contributing part of the vital India. I hope many like this model will come into existence. For once, take initiative, work hard, accomplish. Everybody appreciates winners and contributors, not whiners

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    A R Siddiqi Reply:

    Good work Gopi. I endorse ur view. I have always supported better education in my com. Good education liberates from fundamentalism and gives better opportunity to improve living standards and also changes radical thinking paradigm. I believe India is better country for Muslims. Instead there is a bitter past but don’t make cry foul on it, look for a pleasant future. In the end we all are mortal,so there is no place of hate.

    Rajeev Reply:

    Nice one…Muslims in general are lazy..inherently victim minded and good for nothing.
    You can see that all over the world.

    Nationalist Reply:

    I cant understand why these muslim sympathisers come up whenever such articles are written . Everytime trying to make hindus guilty of this and that. I am completely for educating muslims and giving them opportunities but what neela says is complete bull.
    For example, Parsis, South Indian vegetarians and christian societies in India also practice some form of housing discrimination. Why do u have to bring the issue up to pull hindus down. Shame on such people. We are a HINDU country who respect our minorities and ppl who oppose this shud leave India!

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    D10 Reply:

    Anyone who feels that there isn’t covert discrimination against Muslims in India is living in some sort of illusion. Frankly, I feel the truth lies somewhere in between. There has been a tendency towards ghettoization among many members of the Muslim community in India, which is compounded by subtle discrimination against them. The situation can be improved only by efforts from both sides. If Muslims are to be integrated into the mainstream, they need to make more efforts like this very commendable Bihar Anjuman example, but there has to be an attitude of support, empathy and inclusiveness from the rest of the country as well.

    Nationalist – Just a clarification. India is not a Hindu country. It is a secular country.

    Rajeev Reply:

    D10,
    You are mistaken. The muslims like to live in ghetto because they don’t want to dilute this muslimness living among kafirs. They have theseleves to blame for their misfortune.

    One of my muslim friends was recently looking for place to live. His criteria was-
    1. There should be muslim families around.
    2. There should be Indians around.
    3. The mosque should be walking distance because he wants his 5 year old son to go for namaaz with him.

    This is what he is asking in AMRIKA…so how can you expect them not to live in ghettos.

    vikas Reply:

    To Rajiv : In India, I prefer a vegetarian neighbour as I am not used to fish smell. I take my daughter to temple in America more often than my cousins in India do. It is the insecurity within me. If a Muslim is blamed for not being in mainstream, I will also be standing in the same line.

    To nationalist: When you say, we are a Hindu country who respect ‘minorities’, you will have to define who these are. Tehy are not aliens. Ours is (was) a great religion, but divided into several castes and the lowest class has always been looked down. Then came a Messiah, who did not preach in any scholarly language, instead taught the values of life in commener’s language. These downtrodden class embraced him, became his followers – Buddhists. But their fate did not end there. The rulers from Persia and central Asia attacked India through northwest region (as that was the only open gate from India. Others were locked through sea, himalayan mountains and desert). These people have to get converted again – Muslims. They have changed their faith several times. What they have not been able to change is, their status in the society. They were looked down, they are still looked down. Yes, they suggregate just like how Dalits are suggregated. The difference between these two classes are, one suffered living in same religion, other suffered dispite getting converted to several religions. Whenever there is a communal riot, the clash is between these two unfortunate communities (Dalits and Muslims) as they live in same kind of areas, whereas we – the so called elite class never get touched.

    About Islam being linked to terrorism, I suppose that religion must be existing since 500 years at least. Problems of Kashmir or Palastein are existing since 50 years. But we started hearing about Islamic terror from only 15-20 years. Why should we pretend ? Everyone of us know how Americans helped Taliban in their fight with Russia and how Pak used the same opportunity to train Jihadis againest India. Then why should we complain in general about Islam ? Osama is from middle east. Why he couldn’t set up Al Quida in middle east itself ? The people in Saudi are rich and well fed. They cannot be brainwashed as easily as these Afghan or Pak boys, who have empty brains and stomuch. The jihad is spreading to Africa I heard, again why no Arab countries ? Africans are easier targets, is it? Root cause for current terrorism is not religion, it is poverty and uneducation.

    Yes, there are educated terrorists, just like naxalites. Bilal Abdullah, who was convicted in an Airport attack in UK was againest the West over Palestine and sanctions on Iraq, including Medicine. His philosophy looks more Marxist than Islamist to me. Such people can’t be tackled with religion or force alone, more diplomatic efforts will also needed (locally for naxalites and globally for the extremists).

    Coming back to education, be it is Dalit or Muslim they need to motivate themselves instead of blaming others. Rest of the society have to give them a pat when they climb a step, instead of insulting them.

    sanjeev Reply:

    @ vikas

    the 9/11 terrorist, london bomders etc were not illietarte and poor ..

    can you explain this ?

    Shakil Ahamed Reply:

    Hi Rajeev
    Nationalist

    hope you are doing well and leading a order life. complain about any thing is very easy but finding resolution for is very tough. Do you know about Gujarat communal valance here I am not saying that 9/11 attack was right any communal violence is bad has no place in any society of the world and a dark spot on the history of world and the culprit would never be forgiven but I want to show you that this is not about literate Muslim world or illiterate here we are talking about Indian Muslim their condition, their contribution and their life style in India. If you really feel for the Hindu of the world then work for them but mind it they are not Indian you have to realize the very fact. And Mr. Nationalist who told you that India is a Hindu country because Arya live here who were not Indian and still not first love the country where you live and accept that you have been made of the dust of that country this is not Hindustan Or Aryavarta this is HINDOSTAN the country of Indian no matter creed, faith or religion. and at last I request you all reader be a human being first and love the human kind

    thanks/best regards
    shakil

    Anil Reply:

    No offcen but muslim lag behidn everywhere even in UK USA CANADA

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    D10 Reply:

    Rajeev, I say myself that there is a ghetto tendency amongst many Muslims. However, my point is that that is only one side of the story. If a Muslim person wants to live around people of his own community that is also because living amongst a prejudiced majority he is always looked at suspiciously. I know of many Hindu landlords who might not have any prejudices themselves, but they refuse to let out houses to Muslims for fear of what other Hindus in the area might say to them. The problem is distrust on both sides. Integration can only happen with openness on both sides. Today there are so many misconceptions amongst both communities about each other and that at least can be improved by increasing positive interaction in everyday life. It is easy to blame, but tougher to make an effort.

    Rajeev Reply:

    D10,
    Unfortunately muslims have nothing since 1947 partition to win trusts of Hindus. Pl. tell me even one single act..all they do is..cry..cry..cry..terror..terror..terror..Islam..Islam..

    Most of the muslims have absolutely no love for motherland or their countrymen and this is the reason even a Parsi doesn’t trust them.

    Akash Reply:

    Rajeev,
    c’mon man. Be fair. If you travel to US, you would find areas dominated by various communities. So, Muslims are not alone in that. Muslim ghettos in India have been more prominent since 60s. I am not going to venture into reasons why this has happened, but that is a verifiable fact.
    There is no reason for you to hurl unfounded insults. I have heard the same things for Biharis as well, that they are lazy, stupid, etc.

    D10,
    I have heard the same things from Marwari and Parsi communities as well.

    Gopi,
    Not so long ago, the so called western intellectuals used to say the same thing about “Hindoo”. It’s a cycle. Don’t read too much into that analysis.

    Rajeev Reply:

    Akash,
    The other communities stick together not because of hatred for others but more because of cultural reasons however muslims stay away from mainstream because they have hatred for non-beleivers.

    Akash Reply:

    Rajeev,
    You seem to have looked deep down in the hearts of every Muslim when you make fatuous comments like that. Your recriminations and abuses have become boring and I must say, despite my vehement disagreement with Zia on several points, I commend his decency and patience. I would have lost my cool on hearing such manure coming out of you and Sanjeev. Grow up guys!

    Rajeev Reply:

    Akash,
    Will you shut up? You are more nagging than wife.

    Shakil Ahamed Reply:

    Dear Anil

    Have you forgotten about history read that and you will find your self in a very pathetic situation about your self how were your ancestor and Muslim
    Please do not mind it it is history and we can not change that

    Dear Rajiv

    Please mind parliamentry language when you are talking here to read your comment i can say you are vansaj of RAVANA

    best regards

  • http://www.yahoo.com Sameer

    This is the way to go forward…endless complaining will not help muslim community, In country like india there is no istitutional discrimnation.

    Muslims themselves have to come forward, nobody has time to push them forward.

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  • Rohit

    Why do people have to draw divisions in their mind?

    Why do we have the necessity to scream out that we are Hindus or Muslims or Christians or for that matter Indian, Pakistani, American, etc. Cant we just fit into the global village and just be happy? Spend our collective energies in achieving excellence in work and betterment of society in general. As Bihar Anjuman is doing….

    Such(->Nationalist and people like him in other religions) divisions and barriers we create in our fragmented mind is tying us down.

    No one wants respect …everyone want to live peacefully.

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  • http://thegoofysufi.blogspot.com Amit Julka

    Zia,

    If you may have noticed, these people achieved all this without any reservations or political goodies…I am all for affirmative actions,but reservations might just create a right wing backlash….I am afraid it might do more damage than good…So my prescription is, if the Muslims of Bihar (who are amongst the poorest) can do this, what’s stopping the others…remember, education is the biggest leveller, not sops….

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    Anil Reply:

    This is what every community sud do insteal of sulking in the corner hwo they are being victimized.

    throw that Quran geeta Veda and start reading physics chemistry math social science and noone will be able to stop you from moving ahead

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    sanjeev Reply:

    @ Anil

    I am sure you have been brainwashed by the congfessi stooge ( bipin chandra- mukherjee- romilla thapar gang ) written history of india.

    Just ask one simple question to Zia and ilk :

    1. Is quran words of man or God ?

    You will get the reply :)

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    sanjeev Reply:

    @ anil

    Btw what harm Veda or bhagvadgita has done to you ?

    If you don’t want to read, don’t read it… people like me read them for academic purpose

    Can you enumerate what harm they have done to you or for that matter society at large ?

    Please don’t put cats and mouse in same box…

    Quran, bible, and torah can’t be compared with other religious scriptutres (that of hinduism. budhism, jainism, confucianism, shintoism, taoism etc )

    You need some serious education ..:)

    Don’t try to be politically correct .. first read what islam is

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    Rahmath Reply:

    @ sanjeev

    how can zia’s answer to that question be an reply to anything.What one beleives is his or her wish.

    if the Hindu’s can beleive that Krishna was Vishnu incarnate and he adviced Arjuna in the battlefeild thus giving us the Bhagavat Gita,if Christians can beleive that jesus is son of god who was born to give salvation to the whole mankind,If Jews can get a land from another nation because GOD had promised it to them,why cant muslim’s beleive that the Quran is the word of God without being labelled as fanatics???

    sanjeev Reply:

    @ Rahmat bhai

    The belief that some one took rebirth or incarnation of some god is a matter of faith..

    Everybody in india (hindus) admit that Gita was written by Ved Vyas…

    Besides there has been very strong traditon of atheism also in india..who questioned the basic premises of all theism in hinduism..

    And they lived happily and in the same society..

    I am ready to wrtie an article criticing Krishna Vishnu or whatever God of hindus you ask me to do…

    Will you write an article on this blog or ask Zia to write some thing on the evil deeds of Muhammad ?

    I am ready to accept that Krishna wasn’t avtar of Vishnu are you ready to admit all the murders, rapes, pedophilia committed by muhammad publically ?

    BTW all these cultic faiths of judaism, christainity were equally dangerous as that of islam… I stronly criticse them also..

    Regarding Israel I am personally happy that there is some one to pay in kind to MUSLIMS..

    You know the ..jaisi karni vaisi bharni..muslims had persecuted jews and now its their turn to wipe out this faith started by a pedo, rapist-murderer…

    Rahmath Reply:

    @ sanjeev.

    If you can back what you say with credible proofs, i have no problem condeming mohammed as well.

    prashantkumar137 Reply:

    To Rahmath-
    Every “moderate” Muslim is a potential terrorist. The belief in Islam is like a tank of gasoline. It looks innocuous, until it meets the fire. For a “moderate” Muslim to become a murderous jihadist, all it takes is a spark of faith.

    It is time to put an end to the charade of “moderate Islam.” There is no such thing as moderate Muslim. Muslims are either jihadists or dormant jihadists – moderate, they are not.

    by Ali Sina, FaithFreedom.org, March 14, 2010.

    prashantkumar137 Reply:

    Here are some of the Hadiths that will nail it-
    The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for ‘Aisha’s hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said “But I am your brother.” The Prophet said, “You are my brother in Allah’s religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry.” Bukhari 7.62.18

    When the Prophet married me, my mother came to me and made me enter the house (of the Prophet) and nothing surprised me but the coming of Allah’s Apostle to me in the forenoon. Bukhari 7. 62. 90

    Narrated ‘Aisha:
    I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah’s Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for ‘Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Bukhari 8. 73.151

    Narrated Aisha:
    The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. Bukhari 5.234

    ‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old- Muslim 8. 3310

    Narrated ‘Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death)- Bukhari 7. 62. 64

    Narrated A’isha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that ‘Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).” what you know of the Quran (by heart)’ – Bukhari 7. 62. 65

    Narrated ‘Ursa:The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)- Bukhari 7. 62. 88

    The Islamocritic scholar, Abul Kasem, has demonstrated that in Islam there is actually no age limit for marrying a child. He found the following hadith which shows a Muslim man can marry an infant. However should one of his adult wives suckle that infant both wives become haram to him.

    Case of one of two wives suckling the other- If a man marry an infant and an adult and the latter should give milk to the former, both wives become prohibited with respect to that man [their husband], because if they were to continue united in marriage to him, it would imply the propriety of joint cohabitation with the foster-mother and her foster-daughter, which is prohibited, in the same manner as joint cohabitation with a natural mother and daughter-It is to be observed on this occasion, that if the husband should not have had carnal connection with the adult wife, she is not entitled to any dowry whatever, because the separation has proceeded from her, before consummation :-but the infant has a claim to her half dowry.
    More proof of Muhammad’s pedophilia-

    (Suhayli, ii.79: In the riwaya of Yunus I.I recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu’l-Fadl) when she was baby crawling before him and said, ‘If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.’ But he died before she grew up and Sufyan b. al-Aswad b. Abdu’l-Asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him Rizq and Lubaba….(Ref.3, page 311)

    george Reply:

    all holy books were written by man,accept that first.good things are common in all these books,though it must be said there are lot of rubbish also in all these books,some more some less. Other people do not take their holy books so seriously and let their life lead by some common sense. Muslims, on the other hand,go by the holy book letter and spirit. zakir naik on peace tv tells muslims not to have any friendship with hindus,and he quotes surahs from Quran. and poor muslims feel that is the way. they do not question their religious diktat,and so they are also exploited by other muslims, politicians and everybody else who can lay their hands on poor muslims.

    Rajeev Reply:

    Sanjeev,
    Anil is right..these scriptures are important but more important is karma (as said in Gita).

    Shakil Ahamed Reply:

    Dear All

    How ever I can reply all your question in a proper way as it is. but you seem to know only your own way *** for tat however I respect all religion because this is the teaching of Muhammad sal
    with due respect but here I want to say tell me who is equally to Muhammad any one in this world. You are talking about terrorism but you can not change the history of India Lakh chillao magar somnath ka itihas nahi badalega
    Mir kasim ka Itihas nahin badale ga
    aurangzeb ka itihas nahin badale ga
    and terrorism is the product of Mahabharata and Ramayana
    puri duniya isi se aatankwad sikhi hai

    yakin na aaye to padh kar dekh lo

    Rahmath Reply:

    @ Anil

    Sometimes i feel the same too and deep down i guess everyone feels the same.SOme times i just love to puzzle an educated person asking “hey do you beleive in Evolution?”I am yet to get a decided answer.(i dont ask the question to anyone who doesnot think though)

    Still i think this is not the time to throw away our religious texts but rather to go indepth.Tolerance level is running low and education doesnot seem to help in any way.I was amazed when a very well educated friend who was a computer engineer enquired whether mulsims write from right to left just to go against the world who writes from left to right.I was so amazed at such a question that i could nt even ask her what language did she think the arabs used before Islam???U see education doesnt really help as far as religion is concerned.

    The only time i remember being equally amazed was when a muslim family in India participating in a quiz competition couldnot answer to the question of who jumped across the Sea to find Sita.

    Maybe we should have one subject of religious studies every year in our curriculam with a clause that no one can study their own religion which they can do at home.Hopefully it will clear the air a little.

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    amit Reply:

    It is sad that Indian muslims think they are foreigners and arabs and use urdu instead of Hindi. Thats why millions of Muslims in India and Africa have left Islam for christianity.. This happened because muslims never integrate; not here not in Central Africa and not in Siberia and SOuth russia. Yeag in all these places; Islam was the majority religion run by foreigners or foriegn origin claiming people! but they left this videshi.aatankwadi islam… read bihari muslims or search bihari muslims to christianity or bihari muslim church or bhojpuri muslim church..

    already millions have converted to christianity due to arabi and urdu emphasis of islam. and i wish this continues!

    george Reply:

    Muslims are very conscious about religion.In UK,they are also least educated, unemployed and poor,compared to other communities. Muslims in prison are in large numbers in UK.

    http://www.foreignersinuk.co.uk/news-muslim_population_in_prisons_rises_in_recent_years_1652.html

    In 1991 there were just 1,959 Muslims in jail, and just eight years on, in 1999, the number had more than doubled, with 4,335 in prison. That number now stands at around 10,000 – 12 per cent of the prison population of 84,000 – despite Muslims making up just three per cent of the general population in the UK.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6966473/Muslim-prisoners-refuse-to-take-part-in-rehabilitation-programmes.html

    Fhd Reply:

    @Prashant
    I am sorry about ur ignorance and what u understand .
    Hadith is a complete way of life . Try reading it and more importantly understanding it before commenting . You cannot understand anything with a biased heart. Be soft and try to understand it. Inshallah hidayat shall come to you .
    Kh

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    george Reply:

    Try to be good humans first,and then if time permits, be a good muslim.

    Will some muslim will answer this simple question?

    WHY MOST MUSLIMS ARE OBSESSED WITH RELIGION

  • sanjeev

    I seriously doubt whether education or governemnt services will help reform the barbarism of muslims.

    Infact education will provide them better and innovative means to terrorise and bully the peacefull communities like hindus- budhists- jainism-sikhism.

    Remember all 9/11 and Glasgow airport, London bombers were well educated…infact education helped them use innovative methods to create terrorism.

    Better option is India should allow sharia laws for muslims…and only arabic..quran based education..

    That will help them have complete spiritual development…and go to jannat..

    Jinnah (biggest jihadi of the millenium) and Allam Iqbal ( infact a doctorate in philosophy ) were good examples to show that there are no liberal muslims…muslims are muslims..and islam is a political ideology that aims to capture the entire world..

    Iqbal envisioned global caliphate with Porkistan as its seat..

    Can anyone imagine the condion of other religions had there been 80 muslims ?

    So i think its better to keep muslims busy in madrasa’s

    else these fanatics (like.. Zia and Bobby type ) will start demanding one more porkistan ..

    Read Tariq Fateh’s “chasing the mirage”

    and muslims have no moral authority to make noise over so called discrimination against them untill there are abuse words for other faiths in their manula of terrorism.

    Still if they claim ask them to read some history…what they themselves have done to others..in the name of islamic justice …..

    Muslims better understand Israel style treatment or best is spanish style …

    Saying there are liberal and good muslims is like saying there are good Nazi’s..

    This ideology is inherently dangerous for any civilized society..

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    Rajeev Reply:

    and you should know that Iqbal’s grandfather was kashmiri brahmins who converted under pressure.

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    Akash Reply:

    I am not sure you got your facts correct there, Rajeev. There is no reason to just unnecessarily indulge in Muslim bashing. We can have discussion without name calling. I disagree with Zia on several points, but I am not sure what is there in this article that offends you so much.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    I am stating the fact. Please google on Iqbal.

    Akash, I hate people who lecture so desist. I have been on interacting with pakistanis and muslims for past 16 years and I know what they mean (between the lines).

  • Gopi Thomas

    All

    Stick to pluses and minuses of the issue; no need to “brownwashing” all.

    I congratulate the Bihari Muslims for their achievement. However, when Zia says “Muslims are storming in, make way” or ” they are fulfilling some chapter and verse in Quran”, he is stereotyping one group and being divisive. They ahve done agood job; hope others will follow, hope they will work their hearts out to contribute to a better India – there has nothing to do with Quran (and if so, let us lay all the existing faults also on Quran).

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    Rajeev Reply:

    This is the problem with muslim. They bring in Quran and Islam in everything including loo.

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    chandrashekhar Reply:

    Rajivjee,
    Your comment is to some extent true that followers of islam , bring everywhere islamic idea even where it is not required from our point of view, despite that a group young muslims has become enough rational and has a vision of development better life , and we accept it that a religion is a personal affair of anyone’s life so it is unfair to comment on religious issues.
    regards,

    chandrashekhar

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Point taken..This is the attitude that has made hindus slaves of muslims.

    sanjeev Reply:

    @ chandrashekhar

    Oh really its personal affair ?

    then why 2 lakh kashmiri pandits kicked out from kashmir valley ?

    shan Reply:

    @Rajeev, by invoking too much quoran and hadith they make a laughing stock of themselves. Take the case of one Nahid posting in one of Zia’s blog”revivalism in islam”. She defends theprophet’s marriage to Ayesha by saying she was an exceptionally intelligent girl. To prove her intelligence she invokes hadith, which says a man went and asked her about inability to have orgasm, She said if the circumcised part enters the circumsised part(presumably clitoris) then it is ghism(whatever that means. Yes spiritual and religion of peace. More looks like religion of…..

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  • Azhar Hussain

    The article is discussing how a this organization something good for Muslims in Bihar and setting good examples. As always due to some guys this is becomng more like Muslim bashing and and the illitrate Rajeevs comments about Prophet Mohammed are uncalled for. But what do expect from indians but self-gratifing comments.

    Milllions of indian live and work in the Muslims countries and I can bet you those guys don’t want to come back, now do they. And if I offered or I mad an offer take you to the Middle East for a $1, I bet I will empty India in no time and will become a fastest billionair on earth. You indans tend to spit in the air too much not realising spit comes back on your own face.

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    sanjeev Reply:

    @ hussain

    Oh really do they like to settle in the medieval era kingdoms of middle east ?

    I think..they might be of your ilk..brainwashed by your manual of terrorism :)

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Do you know your kid-f*cking prophet was illiterate?

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    Akash Reply:

    well, so was Akbar and there is no record of Jesus taking his board exams..ditto for Kabir as well..

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    Rajeev Reply:

    It was in reply to Azhar Hussain.

    Azhar Hussain Reply:

    Rajeev did your parents tell you that month is used for talking and not for crapping. Your discussion shows your contempt of other people and their religion. I can also dig out dirt about your religion and country, but why go down to your level.

    “Oh really do they like to settle in the medieval era kingdoms of middle east ?” thousands of them have settled, and would never come back if they had the choice. I wont get into that because we all move from our homelands looking for greener pasters.

    Rajeev your head is all messed up, go get it checked. From your post it seems that you live in the US, then you really have not learned anything from the Americans i.e respect of and for other cultures. But then again it all depends how you were raised Rajeev, your parents raised you in very norrowminded environment. Your parents and you took all the filty education from India to US.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Blah Blah Blah…Since when have muslims started respecting other religions. I am just reciprocating your love.

    Azhar Hussain Reply:

    And Rajeev your religions founding fathers were all Phds.

    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/india/100402/sex-india-gurus

    I can dig lot more dirt about your religion than you can imagine

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    Akash Reply:

    Well, that guy is a bit funny, Azhar. Relax, he is not, however, one of the founding fathers of Hinduism. No one knows that. Sex is not such a dirty word in Hinduism.

    You don’t have to be a nutcase like Rajeev. He probably had a fight with his wife when he wrote all those comments.

    SKS Mumbai Reply:

    @Azhar Hussain

    ‘I can dig lot more dirt about your religion than you can imagine’

    It does not matter, Rajeev or for that matter most of the Hinuds will have no problem in rejecting such dirt (BTW I haven’t bothered to check the link) or in simply saying they don’t accept this or they think it was **** and should be abolished or those who practice such things should be punished.

    Going by that criteria, it is amazing that presence of dirt in your religion must be NIL, Really really GOOD ! If it weren’t so, one would have seen, a slightly higher number of Muslims; finding it necessary to reject at least some part of their religion, than the half a dozen I have come across.

    So finding dirt about Hinduism will become equivalent to finding dirt about your religion only when you develop the guts to acknowledge and reject any of that dirt. ALAS such DIRT does not exist, not at all.

    L Mirza Reply:

    @SKS @Azhar @Rajeev

    The issue with Muslims (a majority, if not all) is that everything reverts to religion. So you cannot have a caricature in South Park; somebody issues a Fatwa. You cannot write a book which questions precepts, somebody issues a Fatwa. More than these, they just cannot reconcile how a Hindu can be a Hindu if he does not go to temples or worship any God, leave alone Allah; or how a Christian belong to an unitarian church or no church at all.

    They have to get out of the internal and external siege mentality. Eventually they will reconcile and focus more on their families and their well being rather than elusive concepts of Ummah and dar-al-islam etc.

    Rajeev Reply:

    Azhar,
    You can curse hinduism all you want..I don’t care.
    If Mohammad is demolished, Islam dies, If jesus is demolished, christianity dies, but if you demolish all gods of Hinduism, it will survive.

    Ashish,
    Will you stop your BS? You kind of Phatu are the reason behind muslim agression.

    Rajeev Reply:

    Akash,
    Will you stop your BS? You kind of Phatu are the reason behind muslim agression.

    prashantkumar137 Reply:

    Yeah Azhar (btw which Azhar is this- the match-fixer or Masood?), Islam is the only ‘true’ religion in the world! Please visit these sites- http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html, http://www.faithfreedom.org/, http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/.

    Shakil Ahamed Reply:

    Dear Rajiv

    I Know very well about the born of Maharishi vyasa to
    I know very well about Maharishi Balmiki To
    I know very well about the born of Dhrit Rastra and Pandu to
    I know very well about Dropadi (Panchali) to
    I know very well about Mother Sita and born of Kusha to

    can you explain all these above quotation for world

    and dear here we not fighting religious web war we are talking of INdia and Indian Muslim only dont divert from the path and wast your energy

    best regards
    shakil

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    amit Reply:

    Azhar hussain aka terrorist..
    you say,” you Indians”
    are you out of India; then why are you talking like you are not Indian!
    well this proves the point that no muslim sees himself as indians but muslims and sees us Hindus as idolators but-parast. Muslims will go to any length to kill and convert us all into islam

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  • chandrashekhar

    sir, undoubtedly new age muslims have tried an effort to educate muslim society by their own limited means as in Bihar , is a praiseworthy effort , it will make india a strong nation , remember indian version of islamic thoughts , teach us peaceful living not propagating terrorism of any type, role of muslims in making india great must be recognised by us,
    regards
    chandrashekhar
    N Delhi

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  • Ashish

    BTW guys, for those with school going kids, here’s a Pakistani immigrant’s stupendous work in education.
    http://www.khanacademy.org/

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  • http://- Rajeev

    By the way don’t foget to watch PBS documentary “Dancing boys of Afghanistan”. It showcases true muslim culture.

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  • sanjeev

    @ azhar miyan

    Here is something which is never done by hindus or any other religions :

    “Hindu girl forced to convert to Islam’” , INDIAN EXPRESS, 24 APRIL 2010

    Islamabad: A Hindu girl from Punjab province was kidnapped and forced to convert to Islam and is currently being held in a madrassa, leading Pakistani rights activist Ansar Burney said today. Burney said his rights organisation, the Ansar Burney Trust International, had learnt that 15-year-old Gajri,

    here is the link

    http://www.indianexpress.com/comments/‘Hindu%20girl%20forced%20to%20convert%20to%20Islam’/610492/2

    People like you will still mainain that there is no compulsion in religion ….courtsy QURAN

    I hope this will help wake up the secularists before it happens in india also

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    Azhar Hussain Reply:

    Thanks for posting this Sanjeev…..This is shameful acts performed by individuals not autherized or advocated by religion.

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    shehzad Reply:

    If even the act reallly happened , this is condemnable , but why cite an stand alone case .
    why dont you refer to the cases of gang rapes of Muslim women by maruding hordes of Hindus in Gujrat ?

    Bhaoo , put down the biased spectacle down .

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  • babbu

    Hi,
    I am sorry to say but True words- Islam is not liberal and totally racist religion. Quran – Do really it has hatred words for Jews and Christians and Kafirs. Well people have read it thousand times – calling jews monkeys , Kafirs are Hindus , Sikhs and Buddhists so Islam is totally one sided religion . You can’t change it or if you try you better look for urself. Any way, No one change Islam , if you want to follow it , so be it or research some alternative to keep ur self in peace.-Peace be upon Allah

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    Shakil Ahamed Reply:

    Dear Babu

    where are going about Islam we are here talking about India N Indian muslim nothing else

    here you show you dont know about thing about any religion of world including Sanatan Dharma about you say you are flower

    How can you know about Islam the most modern and progressive religion of world

    You can not understand the statement of a literate person how can you understand the holly Quran the statement of ALLAH that how modern is that

    best regards
    shakil

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    amit Reply:

    If Islam is the most progressive religion; apes are the most intelligent animals and Earth revolves around ME! one reason u praise Islam is also because you want to spread arabism in India.. see http://prophetofdoom.net/ its by a jew; one of your people of book!
    read http://prophetofdoom.net/Open_Letter_Infidels.Islam
    Satan’s Bargain
    “Satan cast a false Revelation on the Messenger of God’s tongue.”

    The motley crew that slinked out of Mecca under the cover of darkness included Muhammad’s daughter, Ruqayyah. Other notables were named slaves to the House, to Ar-Rahman, to the sun god Manaf, slave to Allah, and to Allah’s daughter Al-Uzza. It was a pagan potpourri.

    Muhammad was down but not out: Tabari VI:101 “The Messenger remained in Mecca preaching in secret and openly, protected by his uncle Abu Talib.” It was another Islamic first: a secretive prophet was being protected by a seventy-year-old pagan. “When the Quraysh saw that they had no means of attacking him physically [The old guy was either formidable or the Meccans were impotent.], they accused him of sorcery, soothsaying, and madness, and of being a poet. They began to keep those away from him whom they feared might listen and follow him.”

    I have distilled a “Best of the Meccans” list of accusations against Muhammad and his claims from the hundreds that permeate the Qur’an. For your reading pleasure: “He is liar and a magician.” “He is possessed by devils.” “He is an insane plagiarizing poet.” The Meccans called him “a lunatic, a farfetched forger, a fool, a specious pretender, and deceitful.” “The unbelievers said: ‘He is a deceiving sorcerer, turning many gods into one deity.’” They saw an ulterior “motive behind the Qur’an. It is a fabrication.” “They laugh at the Qur’an.” “Allah hasn’t sent down anything. You are only speaking lies.” “This is nothing but pure sorcery.” “The unbelievers say, ‘The Qur’an is nothing but earlier people.’ lore.’” “These are fables of antiquity which he has reinvented.” “What sort of prophet is this? Why was no angel sent to him?” “These are only confused dreams. He has invented them. Let him bring a miracle to us as the earlier prophets did.” “They say of the prophet, ‘He has forged the Qur’an.’” “We find him full of folly and a liar to boot.”

    Rather than preach salvation to his tribe, Muhammad taunted his accusers: “Some of them talk ill of the Prophet. For those who offend Allah’s Apostle there is a painful punishment. Anyone who opposes Allah and His Prophet will abide in hell forever.” In a duet with Allah, Muhammad bellowed: my critics are: “despicable men, contemptible swearers, back-biters. They’re feeble scandal-mongers.” Carried away in the moment, the god of the Qur’an said that his creation were: “mischief mongers, faggots, apes, nail biters, donkeys, pigs, and tongue twisters.” It was a war of words. The sticks and stones would come later.

    Muslim apologists insist that their prophet’s warmongering in Medina was a result of the Meccan verbal assault. But according to the Hadith, it was Muhammad who tongue lashed first. The Meccan response was measured and reasonable. They sought peace through diplomacy and were ultimately terrorized, plundered, and conquered as a result. Their plight should scream out to us today.

    The Islam vs. Pagan contest seldom rose above a war of words in Mecca. Ishaq:130/Tabari VI:101 “‘The nastiest thing I saw the Quraysh do to the Messenger occurred when their nobles assembled in the Hijr” [the standing place in the mosque of the Ka'aba].” They discussed Muhammad, saying, “We have never seen the kind of trouble we have endured from this fellow. He has derided our traditional values, declared our way of life foolish, abused and insulted our forefathers, reviled our religion, caused division among us, divided the community, and cursed our gods.”‘”

    Allah was their most revered idol. Saying that Muhammad insulted him is an indictment of Islam. And he couldn’t have reviled their religion to any significant degree because he incorporated every aspect of Qusayy’s scam into Islam. Therefore, the real problem lay elsewhere. This prophet made himself a societal nuisance. He destroyed traditional values, caused divisions among the people, and assailed both the living and the dead.

    “‘We have endured a great deal from him.’ While they were saying this, the Apostle walked up and kissed the Black Stone. Then he performed the circumambulation of the Ka’aba. As he did they said some injurious things about him. I could see from the Messenger’s face that he had heard them. When he passed a second time they made similar remarks. When he passed them the third time, the Prophet stopped and said, ‘Hear me, O Quraysh. By Him who holds Muhammad’s life in his hand, I will bring you slaughter.’”

    The founder of Islam was performing pagan rites, kissing a rock idol and venerating a rock shrine. He had attacked the traditional values of his people, demeaned their ancestors, and caused division. He had built his “religion” of submission upon doctrines he had stolen from Qusayy, Hanif poetry, and Jewish scripture. And for what? So he could lay claim to Allah’s Fountain of Kausar – the Ka’aba Inc.

    If you think my summation is too harsh, consider what just happened. After enduring years of hate speech from Muhammad, the Meccans criticized him. They accurately labeled the prophet’s religion “plagiarized madness and sorcery.” In response, the founder of Islam turned to his accusers and said, “I will bring you slaughter.” Not salvation, not good news, not a wonderful message from a loving God. No. “I will bring you slaughter.” It was Muhammad’s message to the world. And he performed as promised.

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    Jahir Reply:

    From where this guy, amit, took all these. It looks like vomited stuff of highly virus infected (brain). See logic (Islam) says, when you tell some thing, support with proof. That proof shud be from authentic source. it seems like V class student read einsteins theory and wrote his understandings. come on, amit, read things with some basic understanding. same for prashant & Rajeev also. Your comments gives wrong impression about your mental state. Quran & prophet (PBUH)’s life is not some thing you can read & understand from any thing like 2G spectrum scandal/s news or bollywood movie story types. our guys are mainly infected with such type of thinking & analysis. This is the way other (Moses(PBUH)’s real torah, Jesus(PBUH)’s real bible, Hinduism’s original vedas, For your info, there is no word HINDU in vedas) original religious sciptures are destroyed and finally all mankind was left with is too many ramayanas totally conflicting each other, have you read valmiki, jain, kambar ramayanas? latest in series is TV ramayana. sorry i am not trying to hurt but make you understand. If you want criticize some thing , get it properly first. I do n’t know you job, but if you are half baked in your output, difficult. I can tell you many things about the history of religions and homogeneity of all religions & how human race lost its key ingredient and currently it is in your state. But hope is that slowly atleast some portion will understand. Try to be among those and read more from original vedas, buddha’s original philosophy, Torah/Christianity’s part that tells about one god. May god bless you all. Muslims faults, for some out of their over aggressiveness, they will pay, for their lazyness & failing to explain their original revelations (still key part untouched from human corruption) also they will pay. But remember Islam is the only left solution to you, me & all muslims, other people.

  • babbu

    if you say something about Islam , it is considered bias view. Read Quran who have doubts . Clear it. Simple way . Don;t have to spend a lot of rupees to do it.

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  • shehzad

    funny ! All the Racist Hindu Bloggesrs yelling to rpove ” look How the Muslims in Bihar are treated and how they are getting along , you ought to thank us Hindus ” .

    There are homo sapiens like Sanjeev ( a BJP spokesman , I presume ) blabbeirng incoherent
    mumblings with out any real insight bout Islam .

    Mind telling us , if india is the biggest Democracy on this planet ( your claim ), why it took 60 yrs for the Muslims ( only of Bihar that is ) to get a Fair ( ? ) share uptil now .

    So far so for Democracy .

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    prashantkumar137 Reply:

    Shehzad was recently nabbed by the US for car bombing at Times Square!

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    shehzad Reply:

    My gratitude Mr.Kumar , that kind of diparaging statement was anticipated .
    As always vide your kind ; wayled , irrelevant ..

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    shan Reply:

    shehzad , my mate what is real insight please throw some light, and what to do with the strictures that say angels will be unhappy with the wife throughout the night if she refuses sex. The point is every religion has these quirky things. But it starts to grate and becomes a laughing stock when you start claiming the only and ultimate truth.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Umm… because Muslims were too busy building bombs and mosques and wasting time in madrassas and giving hate speeches?

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  • budha

    i am a late entrant to this blog..Zias article was objective and it is heartening to read the success stories of the young muslims of Bihar. it will encourage and aspire many others to follow suit rather than playing politics of grievance mongering…i am shocked to see how a well intentioned article was spun around by the abhorrent bhajarangis,especially two of them..the venom spewed from their mouth will make all their forefathers restless in their grave..and they represent hinduism..what a sham

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    There’s something known as retiring gracefully; however, for a poltician of any hue, this attribute never suits. However, I admire his stamina and will to go on with a never-say-die spirit.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZHTQE36KCN27UI4VPK352CRBNM Thangavelu

    it is the reality.there is not a single party which is corruptless.further even after the corruption was found,the leaders of the parties are supporting the corrupted persons.To clean the politcs we,the people have to hit the congress hardly because it is not willing to obey the will of the people,the janlokpal.If we coerce the congress all the others will fell in line.what Anna and gajerival doing are correct.we have to support them.though the other parties are corrupt and useless,we have to taught a lesson to congress first. In TN what happened?last time Jaya was taught a lesson.Now it is the time for Karuna DMK to take the lesson.Now what happeened.Jaya was obeying the will of the people.

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  • Anonymous

    Surely ‘The Two worlds’ are not that far apart, when it comes to Cuffe parade, Connaught Place, New York or London! I believe, the writer should have an opportunity to visit the remote villages of the country & gauge the difference in the two places. In the past 5 days 26 farmers in Vidarbh have committed suicide because they could not meet their daily needs.

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    Exactly the thing if person see the positive side of any of the thing then he/she never have to face any kind of troubles and not only that but all the things started to be happen in favor of that person. So positiveness has the biggest impact on lives of people and all need to be positive and i can say this thing from my personal experience.

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  • http://www.nitrotek.co.uk/rc-boat.html rc boats

    Exactly the thing if person see the positive side of any of the thing then he/she never have to face any kind of troubles and not only that but all the things started to be happen in favor of that person. So positiveness has the biggest impact on lives of people and all need to be positive and i can say this thing from my personal experience.

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  • Anonymous

    Good for them. I hope this is a victory for the entire country with all its communities

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  • rammann

    most abused for personal good than used for national welfare

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    Shazzam Reply:

    Doesnt mean that the RTI act be truncated to the advantage of corrupt political parties.
    The people who abuse blackmail the parties/bureaucrats only who got the skeletons to hide. So in the end the ruling class is the one who is getting the stick. People def need to be checked on this and its govt’s failure not to bring such ppl to light cuz they themselves will get exposed.

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  • momn doter

    Let me tell you why I hate Islam. Fact – “Muslim majority countries don’t develop (unless there is oil) and don’t respect minorities”. So I’m in favor of Islam free India – A country where every religion but Islam is welcome. I’m not against holy Qur’an or current Muslims. I would like new borns to be converted to any other religion, in case you are not a fan of Hinduism.

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  • Anonymous

    Why confine it to Muslims alone. There are substantial percentages of Hindus too deprived of any facility that a Muslim claims to be deprived of. Why polarize. If your Koran says to try and move forward, does it only mean for Muslims exclusively and not for Humanity? That ideology is wrong and that is where the ocean of difference between Islam and Hinduism emerges.

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  • Xpert_Critic

    Muslims themselves are responsible for their pathetic situation. I think Secular Kumar’s govt is more interested in recruiting muslim candidates in administrative services. Until the Hindus unite and come up in arms this fanatic inhuman religion cannot be taught a proper lesson. Learn from Israel or at least from Myanmar. Even Buddhists have left the path of non violence

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