Inside Israel: Prospects of Peace at Weizmann’s home



Many people I met during my recent visit to Israel — which kept me away from this blog for a fortnight — suggested the impossible. It’s this: left to the people of Palestine and Israel, peace is possible.

It’s never easy to extract concessions from the fear-struck Jews, not even in their views. But as one gets talking, there invariably comes a moment when the tongue slips through.

From the Jewish man next to me on the 25-minute flight from Amman to Tel Aviv, to film-makers and writers, everyone seriously thought peace was being held hostage — by the Arabs, who fear democratization; by Gaza outfits several times more rigid than Hamas, by Iran, and by the Israeli establishment itself, who have lost sight of their first President Chiam Weizmann.

My pursuit of possibilities of peace began with a 40-minute drive to Jerusalem straight from Tel Aviv’s Ben-Gurion airport. This was followed by a dash to the Dead Sea to its south and, then, a trip to Haifa city further north, where rocket-spewing Lebanon was within sight, before returning to Tel Aviv.

In Tel Aviv’s Rehovot, is the Weizmann Institute of Science, a world-class facility for fundamental research dedicated to Israel’s first President and a scientist-Zionist. I sat through a short film on Weizmann’s life. He lived and died here. The institute, one of whose scientists won a Nobel this year, also houses the Weizmann Archives, where I wished I could have spent a few months, if not years.

When one considers the birth of Israel, Weizmann is the natural starting point, as British MP Richard Crossman had noted. Unlike Moses, he died in the Promised Land. Throughout many years of turmoil, Weizmann had remained a moderate, and in 1931, when he gave up his post as chief of the world
Zionists, he refused to give ground on this issue. He expressed his philosophy in a three-hour farewell address, words that might just as well have summed up his views in 1949.

He said: “With a strong national home in Palestine, built up peacefully and harmoniously, we may expect, in cooperation with the Arabs, also to open up for Jewish endeavour the vast areas which for their development need intelligence, initiative, organization and finances.

“The constant formulation of excessive demands endangers the safety of the mandate. We have been searching for other ways and means. In this quest I have not always been successful, but in laying down my office, formally and definitely, today, I feel that I have brought the movement a little nearer
to its goal. That goal we shall reach.”

I have no doubt that the reason why Israel has had to deal with terrorism is because, during the past 62 years, it has been dispossessing, expelling, occupying and oppressing the native Palestinians. The extremist groups have of course answered with deadly assaults, violating human rights.

The fatigue of war is evident now. “What’s better for us than peace,” Shifra Horn, a celebrity feminist Israeli novelist, tells me over dinner at a hip Kosher restaurant in West Jerusalem.

When the late Yitztak Rabin and Yasser Arafat made peace, film-maker Sylvain Biegeleisen took his camera and went around asking Palestinian and Israeli children what they thought about the famous handshake. “My dream was to open up a little bit of the border and plant trees,” he told me over a scrumptious meal at another restaurant.

In the Middle-east, the strongest wish among people is to see an honourable, equitable solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict being arrived at.

The outcry over the Goldstone report last year — which blamed both Hamas and Israel for excesses during last December’s Gaza offensive — may well have changed the Palestinian political landscape forever. It certainly means that Palestinian leaders will have to take into account public feelings on any given issue.

On settlements, Palestinian feelings (and any rational position) are clear. Settlements are directly contradictory to a peace process since they pre-empt the very issue to be discussed. As such they are not acceptable and it is not acceptable for any leader to negotiate with Israel while settlement construction continues. And this is the current US stand too.

Israel has to realise this. That it’s Gaza policy is not working at all. “Not only is it not working, it is counter-productive and morally wrong,” says Gershon Baskin, the co-CEO of Israel/Palestine Center for Research and Information. See here.

As I watched the film on Weizmann’s, 39 young people from Gaza applied to attend a peace education workshop sponsored by Baskin’s organisation and held in a school in Beit Jala. All 39 Gazans were denied entry, but Baskin managed to get four in.

The refusal of the army to allow their entry had nothing to do with security. The army’s officer-in-charge even told Baskin so. This is the policy and the army is implementing it. So what is the policy? It is to completely cut off Gazans from the rest of the world.

“I cannot find logic in prohibiting young people from Gaza from meeting Israelis. Is the government implementing an anti-normalization campaign?” asks Baskin.

My own hunch is that moderate voices on either side, such as Baskin’s, will grow stronger. In the arts, the longing for peace is the strongest. My Israeli sojourn ended with a fantastic late night show of the world-famous new-age dance troupe, Mayumana. It’s latest show, Momentum, asks: “What would you do if you could turn back time. What would you change?”

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  • Junaid Kiyani

    Well,
    We do not need anybody to preach about the peacefulness of Zionists. We see a natural alliance between Extremist Hindus and Jews in case of Pakistan along with Qadiyani Nexus. I agree that not all the Jews have same mindset, like wise not all the Muslims are terrorist either. World Domination is the Goal and this has to be achievedby all means …. We do not have to agree or disagree of this softer image of Zionist. In the essence , Jews have been against Muslims since last 1400 or more years. We cannot Trust Jews and like wise their allies. How many Palestinians have been killed so far? Any judicial commision etc? This is all Junk that peace will be established…They control UN,USA and Global Financial Sytem…
    Indian Muslims have to go through their history which has beem massacred by their fellow Hindus, creating a confused,Secular Muslim breed who can not make sense out of the historical peaceful Domination of Isalm across the Globe. To me it is very clear that Cultural Genocide of Muslims is in progress in Hindu India in the name of Secular state.

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    Paritosh Reply:

    @Junaid

    you are just another fuc**d up muzzy who will do something is to howl seeing way Muslims are being hated by both Jews and the Hindus. There is no need to give any clarification what kind of ****** sh*t heads you Muslims are. you talk about anti-Muslim sentiments in India and massacres of Palestinians , but what about the atrocities committed by Muslim emperors on both of these. the biggest genocide is the killing of the Hindus by the Muslim emperors resulting in 80 million deaths. but that doesnt bother you , as you are , without any doubt shameless @$$Fuc***.

    the kind of hatred Muslims face is something they deserve.

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    Indian Reply:

    Are you for real, you sanghi ****** with typical sense of victimization. what kind of atrocities are you talking about. If the Muslim emperors were so cruel and fanatic you would have been different now.Even after adding Muslim population of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh the muslim population is even less than half of Hindus (includes tribal which sanghis consider hindus too). If you want to see the real atrocities and real conversion look at Americas specially South America where every one speaks Spanish or Portuguese and have catholic as religion. Now that is real destruction of culture, I wish Muslim emperors would have done here in India those things, to silent crazies like you. Those emperors even dint changed your language, tell me how many in India speak Persian and Arabic. Please, you douchebag Sanghis go try to find some other holocaust from history, hope you never get it!! dont forget you khaki chaddhi

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    Sam, Reply:

    Stop practicing your Taqiyya please !!!

    Indian Reply:

    heheheh….what is my taqiyya………please!!!

    Sam, Reply:

    Either you are ignorant or arrogant or delusional.
    many Hindus fought back against the muslims thugs.
    even if they wanted to kill every Hindu, they could not have done it.
    so please get out of your delusion ..

    if the west want they can nuke the who muslim world, including mecca/medinah..
    it was not like that a thousand years back.
    if muslims wanted to kill anyone they have to do it with sword..

    muslim thugs tried to kill, convert or put jizya
    the strategy depends on their numerical strength.

    Whatever...... Reply:

    I understand Junaid’s statement as a Pakistan muslim as they are educated or made to believe that Indians for that matter here Jews are bad, otherwise there will be nobody to blame for their current situation.

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    sunny Reply:

    Just went through some comments. So much hatred in some people. At this rate, soon we will be having Indian versions of Talibans and Hindubans holding majority of the population to ransom. Instead of becoming a world power we will become a headache for the rest of the world. So please allow head to rule over the heart.

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    Indian Reply:

    Hindu nationalist will be responsible for that!!!

    Indian Reply:

    @sam

    I wish somebody could believe you!!!

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  • Gopi Thomas

    The fact is that Arab states do not want the Palestine issue to be resolved. “palestine” is a rallying issue for worldwide jehadis; andd if it is solved, attention will soon be on the corrupt controlling regimes of Egypt, KSA, Jordan, and Syria and Palestine. The rulers in these countries want to eat their cake and have it too.

    Israel will continue their bullying as long as Arabs maintain this posture. A simple “Dandi” style march by, say 1 million arabs/Palestines to all occupied areas will solve the problem. Is Israel going to bomb 1 million people? Even if they bomb, wouldnt bombing at that level essentially get all together to solve for once and for all?

    How come Al Queda never attacks Israel? I bet there is always a way to attack if they really want.

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    Pappu Varkey Reply:

    they dont attack, because they are supported by them.

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  • Junaid Kiyani

    Gopi has apoint and I agree that the puppet moarchy’s of Arab world could have done better. The point the existence of Israel is a question mark?This conflict was created as well planned and untill this is resolved no peace in Middle east. The question why Alqaeda( If this even is the correct interpration,)do not attack Israel , needs to be answered
    Now, the Genocide of 80 Million people, I do not know what has been refered. But I would say one thing if Muslim Emperors of India had to kill other minorities they would have done long time ago but the Justice system of Islam does not allow them. They are responsible and anserable for what they do . I would not comment on any uncivilzed tone , which exaclty describes the mindset I refred earliar.These kind of gestures are of ignorant and prejudised mind…We will just wait and see, as time will tell….

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    Gopi Thomas Reply:

    @junaid

    If Jews were so powerful, how come 6 million jews weer slaughtered during second world war? Granted, Palestinians did not have anything to do with that; however it proves the hollowness of this whole power argument.

    There are only 13 million jew sin the world. There are 1.5 billion Arabs,a nd as many or more Muslims. Obviously brainpower beats brawnpower. It si high time Muslims learn that. We all should be thankful to Jews for their inventions in medicine, science; and their contributions to art.

    I am of tehe opinjuon taht Israel should have been established in Europe, where teh crime occurred. That is neither here nor there. The fact now is that Israel in its current location is a reality, nothing will change that. Muslims can go on pricking, or come to a reasonable, amy be humiliating solution. That is better than the plight they r in now.

    . All nations ahve the right to defend itself; although nations do not have the right to exist. If nation s had to be existed the way they were; Soviet union would have existed, old India (with Pakistan and Bengladesh and other parts) would have existed, Yugoslavia would have existed.

    5 million Jews are surrounded by 1 plus billion Arabs,a nd if Arabs cannot do anything about ii, shame on Arabs. Arabs have been trying to eliminate Israel for 60 plus years; it has not worked. So, work on co existence. Dont think about the lost lands; make new land. Lot of Indians lost everything when they moved to the new India from West Pu jab and Sindh; but they made it in the new land.

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    K Reply:

    Well, now Junaid goes into denial over muslim rulers killing hindu minorities……..and claims that others are prejudiced …….LoL !!

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    Indian Reply:

    When the hindus were in minority!!

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    Paritosh Reply:

    they werent a minority you @$$hole. they were subjected to torture and atrocities by the subsequent Muslim rulers.

    Indian Reply:

    Give some evidence of atrocities and torture!!!and don’t come up with Auragzeb theory, developed by your colonial masters and misappropriated by you Sanghis!!!

    Gopi Thomas Reply:

    @Indian

    It is a fact that Muslims invaded Northern parts of modern India and moved towards the interior. During that process obviously many were killed; many were converted. Allaudin khilji, Gauri, Ghsni, Babar, and of course Aurangazeb (whether you agree or not) all killed and converted. Obviously any Muslim in India had to be the product of a conversion that happened in history.

    Tipu Sultan in the South killed many; and converted many. Tipu was the first and only Indian Muslim emperor who also killed and converted Catholics and desecrated their places of worship also. Many historical temples in northen Kerala stand as a witness to Tipu’s “padayottam” ( a rapid war) through that part. For a short time, he even named the modern Calicut “Islamabad”.

    As recently as in 1920s, at the height of Khilafet movement, Muslims of Malabar, in their hysteria started a rumor that Delhi has once again fallen and a new Calipha has taken over. And that started a mayhem by Msulims, killing people, destroying places of worship, raping women, and forcefully converting many. Many in North India may not know it; it is called “moplah riot” of Malabar. Mahatma Gandhi’s discomfort with Khilafat movement started with this.

    Obviously any number will be an estimate. The fact is that millions have been killed, converted, raped. the fact is that many places of worship were destroyed.

    Historical wounds do take a lot of time to cure. We cannot draw an arbitrary line. “No more Somnath” is not just a Sanghi (whaever you mean by that word) slogan.

    The challenge for all of us is how all of us nurture our India, which is still a baby, although it has 6000 years of civilizational history. All of us are Indians first (although, I know, for many Muslims it is their religion first, and the truly religious does not care a hoot for the nation state).

    Indian Reply:

    @Gopi

    Good reply, I accept the fact that there was conversion and killing while Muslims invaded, but the number would never run into millions as suggested by some cranks just to sensationalize and gain sympathy. These invasion were just political purpose than for religious, same like British or Russian imperialism. Did you find any massgrave???for 6 millions jews there were many mass graves but what about mass graves in India, I never heard any mass graves of millions of people killed by “invaders”.
    Though this happened everywhere throughout the history like during expansion of British empire or Russian empire in 19th or 20th century, in both cases millions of hindus and muslims were killed or displaced, I dunno why are you trying to call and single out invasion on india from northwest as Islamic invasion.
    Even the west coast people of india were brutally killed or converted by Spanish and Portugese earlier, the same people which you claim to be “victim” of tipu sultan (again exaggerated count, he did cos christians like now supporting their colonial masters from England). You should be aware that these coastal people “though now converted to catholics” were first faced marauding and slaughtering christians and because of the deccan sultanate the expansion of european christian to central or peninsular part stopped and eventually conversion of millions of people to christianity. Same time lakhs of muslims killed by christian invader called Albuquerque.
    And I see you that your tendency club Hindus and Christian together and try to project them as a victim of Muslims, this is really funny…..Christians specially catholics and baptist are no lamb, they are the most fanatic of all..if they get chance they will make all of orissa, jharkhand and chattisgarh a Issai-land in minutes!!!! .Actually I don’t want to group HIndus and Muslims together otherwise you Christians have to run away!!!
    So, I must say what happened in the past don’t exaggerate it to create villains or to take unnecessary advantage, this is not right.
    and don’t bring examples like Malabar cos there are many current examples like North east christians who kill and demand separate country, this is what christians do when they are around 2% of population….when they will be 10% then nobody knows!!!!!!!!
    The challenge for Muslims is to be part of development of India and you don’t have to remind them.
    Let the discussion continue!!

    S Singh Reply:

    mr indian

    Actually, it is Muslims who create all the problems worldwide when they get to 10% in a region/country. Philippines, Thailand, China/Ughyar, India, France, UK, etc are allexamples of places where Muslims craete problem. Muslims do not want to live in the current world; they will not allow others to live also.

    If only Muslims learn to live in the 21st century! While others look forward, Muslims look backward; way backward, fixed on 63oAD!

    K Reply:

    @Indian,

    Apologies for saying that Hindus were a minority – they never were. But that doesnt make the killing any less true or pardonable.

    About christians being equally bad, Again that doesnt absolve the Babar types.

    I have nothing against present day christians or muslims but lets not forget who our ancestors really were, before some external entity came and converted them one way or the other.

    Paritosh Reply:

    @Junaid

    i will tell you what Islam really is (or should i say Pisslam :) )

    “Now, the Genocide of 80 Million people, I do not know what has been refered. ”
    as i said you Muzzies will slaughter millions and act totally innocent. there has been historical evidence for this genocide of Hindus. but what the f-u-c-k will you realise this. twisting the facts and presenting them before the world is something that Muslims do the best.

    “if Muslim Emperors of India had to kill other minorities they would have done long time ago but the Justice system of Islam does not allow them”

    they begin to kill the minorities as soon as they invaded till their rule was destroyed by the British
    and of what Islamic “Justice” system you talk of?? killing of Kafirs fo petty reasons, handing out lashes to innocent people, following the prophet’s ( peace be not upon him) practice of raping your own daughters.

    if atrocities of Muslims are answerable and
    justified , then :
    killing of 1700 Muzzies and rapes of 50 Muzzy women are 100% JUSTIFIED
    massacres of scores of Palestinians bi the Jews is 100% JUSTIFIED
    atrocities on Muzzies elsewhere in the world is JUSTIFIED

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    Paritosh Reply:

    “killing of 1700 Muzzies and rapes of 50 Muzzy women are 100% JUSTIFIED”

    reffering to the post Godhra riots in Gujarat

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    Indian Reply:

    Hehehe…..You are rediff.com spillover!!

  • Anil Kumar

    Problem is more furndamental than you here trying to depict.
    When Israel was much smaller fledgling entity Neighbouring states had occupied all the regions today palestinians are demanding as a respectable solution. Mind you in those days palestinains ( actually those muslims who gave way to marauding arab army homing in from all side) only goal was complete annihilation of state called Israel.. Even today Hamas is not ready to drop its ultimate goal from its foundational charter which is annihilation of Israel.

    all the talk which you are listening whereby they talk about two state solution is Taqiah practiced by muslims thoughout history where they accept some adhoc solution till they garner enough fire power to intiiate the total islamification..

    Was watchign Dr Israr ahme pide piper of muslims and another scholar Ghamidi presumably liberal..

    In that debate Dr. Israr unashemdly claimed it’s god given right of muslims to keep expanding islamic empire by sword.. Ghamidi asked dr. israr then why are you cribbing over american intervention they at least give soem excuse unlike your philopshy of expanision by sword without any reason whatsoever..
    That’s the true islam.. mind you persian byzantine empires sindhis spaniards had not done any harm to prophet.. yet prophet sent a leter to accept islam and then followed islamic sword..

    Only a fool will buy the argument that somehow Muslim will not force shariah down everyone;s throat if they could..

    By the way those who are at loss about Dr> israra just switch Q TV and you will see a bearded man parrotting on and on about Quran yes he is the one I am talking about..

    Jews have much bigger problme than other non muslims because muslism belive on days of qayamat jews will be exterminated by muslim and they consider jews as progeny of pigs.. In backdrop of this sort of scriptural hatred instill against jews , it;s hard to fathom there will ever be peace

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  • Puneet

    Hatred! Hatred! Hatred! There is so much hatred in everyone. One peace article by a journo provokes so many hate articles by readers. The odd part is only attrocities that are presumably committed by various people are remembered. Any act of peace is quickly forgotten and discounted by the hate brigade. Why should we bother about a dispute in some distant land, so as to promote acrimony amongst our own countrymen. Worshipping god is a personal matter & it should stay so. How can one judge a person by the god that he or she worships. Is an unknown person staying in a far off land practising the same religion more dear than a neighbour belonging to a different religion!

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    Indian Reply:

    Can you tell me why a big EU diplomatic delegate is coming to visit Kandhmal Orissa shortly, for fact finding matter. What these guys have to do with Kandhmal when scores of other died in naxal violence in nearby region. Isnt that they also have affinity for there coreligionist!!!!

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    Paritosh Reply:

    @Puneet
    “Why should we bother about a dispute in some distant land, so as to promote acrimony amongst our own countrymen.”

    ask this question to the Muslims in India. you sound like a typical idiotic and logicless secularist

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    puneet Reply:

    You seem to be a very harsh person. Amongst Indian muslims most people are not bothered by the hatred in the name of religion or region. The priests of all religions hardly practise what they preach. The common folk are mostly misguided by them through distortion of facts or exaggeration. That is when riots happen which is most unfortunate. The hate brigade should learn to trust Because that is one thing that they lack. Also being paranoid about any community does not help. The perceived wrongs committed by an earlier generation should not cloud the thinking of the present.
    The Israeli-Palestinian problem should be resolved but by the concerned parties. Local problems need local solutions which are lasting. Why should we burn our hands trying to douse their flames. We did it once by sending IPKF in Sri Lanka.

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    Paritosh Reply:

    @puneet
    “Amongst Indian muslims most people are not bothered by the hatred in the name of religion or region. ”

    i cant say that from where the heck you got this idea, but should consider the events when many Muslim Indians tried to stop action against terrorists, sympathised with Kashmiri separatists and their concerns are about Pakestinains who are ethnically no way related to them.

    the religious leaders of Islam strictly practice what their religion preaches them. it preaches hatred for other religions and a violent and baseless ideology that Islam is the alpha and omega of mankind or say superior than other cultures

    the anti-Muslim riots are justified because only such incidents keep show the Muslims their deserved position.
    there is no such thing as “hate brigade”. the Hindu extremism is an answer to Islamic arrogance in India

    “The Israeli-Palestinian problem should be resolved but by the concerned parties”
    again i”ll say that tell this to the Muslims because only they are the ones who are concerned about that.

    Paritosh Reply:

    correction- i meant Palestinians (not Pakestinains)

    Anil Kumar Reply:

    Those acts of peace come of as startegic shift.> unless the ideology behind hatred is dumped these claptraps mean nothing

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  • The_Onlooker

    Palestine is to the Arab States what Ayodhya is to the RSS and the BJP. Just a sob-story to rally support from time to time. Move on guys. Atleast the parties in conflict in both cases seem to want to.

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    Anil Kumar Reply:

    You are ignorant mate.. Ayodhya was hindu temple approrpiated by marauding mullahs Hindus have wrested it back.. Palestime temple mount was jewish holy site as usual occupied by mullah jews are tryign to wrest it back.. so if there is similarity with hindus in that episode it;s with Jews not muslims..

    I do not know any religion whose holiest site has come on ruins of soemone else’s holy site.. Yes I am referrign to Meccah Kabah .. I am sure pagans have betetr claim on that site than muslims..

    When your holiest site is a forcible occupited place then you can understand why mullahs beliove once they occupy somethign it becomes their own and anyone who tries to right the wrong doen by mullahs must be hater.. irony of it all mullah do nto realize they start the $hit everywhere in first place

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  • S Singh

    USA just announced that citizens of 14 Muslim countries (including Pakistan) will have to go through extensive “body frisking” before they can board a flight to the US They decided to do this after the several Muslim terror acts against them in the last few months.

    Palestinians will not get any support from the world community as long as Muslims continue the destructive and violent behavior.

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    Indian Reply:

    Dream of Lazy unimaginative sanghi!!!!!

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    Paritosh Reply:

    so who are you then?? a totally f-u-c-k-e-d up Islamic dickhead Mullah?? yeah i guess thats the case

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    Indian Reply:

    No I am Sanghi F\/CKER!!! be careful!!!

    Anil Kumar Reply:

    Very practical decision.

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  • SKS Mumbai

    @Anil,
    Reg. Dr. Israr’s debate with Ghamidi, you have missed out the key issue.

    American intervention can never be compared with Islam’s political expansion. You see the difference is in the Objective, the former does it for Oil and Gas, while Islam’s objective is “End of Mischief on earth” and “Against the Oppression”. Let us not get into defining these concepts, let us just say it is best for us and for peace.

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    Anil Kumar Reply:

    I know America never sends letetr asking submission to chrstinaity or democracy else we will atatck you.> islamists have all along indulged in sending letetrs to submission to their will and later on attacked

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  • Indian

    Why are Americans interfering in Afghanistan and N Korea!!

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    Gopi Thomas Reply:

    Americans are in Afghanistan because Al Queda used Afghanistan (a failed state) as a abse to train and plan their attack on USA. Destroying ISlamic Fascists is tehir aim; a goal fo which almost all freedom loving countries and democracies are united..

    North Korea is supplying/selling arms to terrorists. (Btw USA is not in N Korea).

    ISlamic terrorism/Islamofascism is the number one catastrophe facing the civilized democracies; it bhas to be dealt with.

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    Paritosh Reply:

    @Indian

    i guess the Sanghis may have F-U-C-K-E-D you and your entire family you @$$hole. thats evident from your response

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  • SKS Mumbai

    @sunny
    “this rate, soon we will be having Indian versions of Talibans and Hindubans holding majority of the population to ransom”

    Will be having? Where have you been boy ? Does Secular Media not reach your place?

    Ever heard of RSS? VHP? Bajrang Dal? Shri Ram Sene or their Political arm? Well the list is endless. FYI, Hindutva-Zionist combine is the greatest threat to the world peace as well as the chief originator of terror. Combined with imperial powers like US, they are the only obstacles to an “Oppression Free World”

    Do some secular and intellectual research, the Truth will enlighten you

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    Anil Kumar Reply:

    Moron of highest order..

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  • L Mirza

    Likud will never have a meaningful peace/solution treaty with Palestinians.

    The feud among Palestinians will prevent any solution to be accepted – what is acceptable to Fatah will be unacceptable to Hamas.

    Arab countries do not want this settled. KSA is doing all it can by coluding with Israel to prevent any agreement. Because, the Muslim wrath will be on them.when this is settled.

    All the Arab countries are now aligning with Israel/USa because they consider the Iran atomivc bomb a bigger threat. So, the palestinian issue is in the bacxkburner. Sunnis rather cooperate with Israel to destroy Shias! Who would have thought this is possible?

    Israel will not do anything, thy will continue the settlements; as long as Arab states do not mount a coordinated counter movement. And Arabs will not do that.

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  • http://- Rajeev

    The problem is that any land that comes under muslim occupation for eaven a brief period becomes ISLAMIC land and if this muslim occupied land is won by the original inhabitants, the muslims go in for eternal jihad (terrorism) against the rightful owner.
    We can see this happening all over the world especially J&K and Israel.

    The only way these barabarians can be tamed is by massive co-ordinated carpet bombing by civillized world on so-called muslim lands. These people should be tamed at any cost.

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  • SKS Mumbai

    PC clarifies his Jihad, Terror, war on unbelievers statement. He says he did not intend to hurt Muslims and that it is possible that Jihad is being used incorrectly and before saying he is happy to be corrected, he points to the meaning given in Concise Oxford English Dictionary : “jihad” is war or struggle against unbelievers”
    http://www.twocircles.net/2010jan09/had_no_intention_hurt_muslim_sentiment_happy_stand_corrected_jihad_chidambaram.html
    I don’t know if I am right but something tells me, his response is a big improvement over the standard sickcularist approach Congress and its sickular friends have patented.

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    Gopi Thomas Reply:

    SKS

    I do believe he will “protect” the country. He has core beliefs unlike many other congress guys.

    However, i do believe there is a radical Islamic extremists being germinated here. Many arrests happened in my hometown. Everybody is appalled..

    They will not do any stupid thing because they know the retaliation will be brutal. However, they do have that burning desire, and some stupid ones can go beyond the line. I bet the educated class are following Alwakil (the radical yemeni) who is their Guru these days.

    “Uthishtatha, JAaratha, Prapavareyn Nibhodita’

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  • http://twitter.com/miri5310 Miriam Brenner

    This short to the point video shows ’spot on’ why there can not be a peaceful state of “Palestine.” Please share with the people who need to know.

    http://www.shoebat.com/videos/3reasonsNo.htm

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  • http://twitter.com/miri5310 Miriam Brenner
  • http://twitter.com/miri5310 Miriam Brenner

    http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/arabs-only-know-one-word-of-english-no/

    There will never be a peace process in the Middle East for one reason and one reason only: The Arabs don’t want it. Israel’s Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Danny Ayalon explains why.

    Next time your left wing or Muslim friends tell you Israel is the problem just show them this video and the one below.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyIDcGZU2A4&feature=player_embedded

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  • http://twitter.com/miri5310 Miriam Brenner

    http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2011/09/15/nobody-wants-the-palestinians-not-even-the-palestinians/

    There is visible outrage on the streets of Jordan where talk of moving Palestinian refugees from Israel to Jordan, has the people, a majority of whom are Palestinians themselves, in an uproar.
    Annihilate the Arabs. Start with the women and children. Once their “next generation” is destroyed and their ability to reproduce destroyed, the remnants will fall onto their knees.

    No other way to be sure.The only way to stop that cancer.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    I think Mirza Ghalib would be more acceptable to all Indians as a national symbol – for his poetry is far more universal and humanitarian than any other poet – and Urdu is understood anywhere in India (though people tend to call it Hindustani for various reasons), which is not the case with Bengali.

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  • Utsav

    Watch Dogs of Cricket. if there is any theing which has changed the very idea of watching cricket is not the nature of the

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