Men with Mettle



For long a man never got his due when it came to style… or substance. If it came it did in separate ways… either business or style, or something else.

Then came the GQ Men of The Year Awards three years ago. And it did as a breather for men not with substance, but with style as well.

GQ India was launched three years ago and when I was invited to attend its launch party at the Four Seasons Hotel in Mumbai, regretfully I had to give it a miss as I had to travel to Sao Paulo to attend and speak at the first Latin American Luxury Conference. But once I got back, I have been a follower of GQ India on a regular basis.

Though I missed its launch, I did not miss its Men of The Year Awards function when it happened first time at the Grand Hyatt a couple of years ago. So, when Conde Nast India called me this time I was only happy to go… first, Conde Nast India MD Alex Kuruvila is an old friend; second, GQ India editor Che Kurrien has been a friend ever since the magazine was launched and last, I always loved going through the contents of GQ India.

The awards function was pretty much packed with several deserving men… from Shah Rukh Khan to Kumar Mangalam Birla and Jyotiraditya Scindia (whom I consider one of the few politicians who has a personal style of his own). Artistes, Bollywood people and men from various other walks of life, all got awards. All were pretty much in sync with style and substance, except for one. He had substance, but not very stylish when it comes to his wardrobe… cricketer Yuvraj Singh. Anyway, he also got an award.

I think this awards function has come to be the most important in terms of its categories and in terms of its choice of men. This event by far has been the best in the last three years and it shows that it’s on the upward trend in terms of its selection of participants. And yes, off the podium, among the audience too were the crème de la crème of Mumbai. I guess it’s important too to spell success for an event.

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  • Ravi

    Here are some other facts.

    1. For thousands of years in the Hindu Society Education was only available to Brahmins. However, some notable exceptions exist, but by and large this is true.

    2. Aryans are aliens to the Indian sub-continent where they have for 3 millennia or more, marginalised the indigenous tribes and other sections of the population. So much so that the History of Northern India is synonymous with the History of Aryans.

    3. Access to education and other such privileges are still very much governed by one’s caste. Lower the caste more difficult it is for an individual to gain access to education. Significant improvement has taken place over the last 200 years or so mainly due to the policies of the Brits – though not exclusivly -, and none of it due to any change of heart among the conservative Hindu society. For an example of progressive Hindus, see below.

    4. The function of reservations is to address inherent in-equalities that exist in our society. We have reservations for a whole variety of criteria. There are reservations to address in-equalities due to religious disadvantages, regional disadvantages, even for children whose fathers served in the forces, etc etc.

    5. Opposition to reservation is almost always led by middle class, Hindu upper castes because the change in status quo hurts them the most.

    6. To maintain caste based hierarchies of privileges is the main agenda of Hinduatva. It wants to re-establish the rigid caste system and denigrate minorities to a permanent second class citizenship.

    7. Whilst I believe the current reservation system can be improved upon, even over-hauled, it remains necessary to create even tiny semblance of equality in our society.

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    Reservations in favour of Backward Classes (BCs) were introduced long before independence in a large area, comprising the Presidency areas and the Princely states south of the Vindhyas. Chatrapati Sahuji Maharaj, Maharaja of Kolhapur in Maharashtra introduced reservation in favour of non-Brahmin and backward classes as early as 1902. He provided free education to everyone and opened several hostels in Kolhapur to make it easier for everyone to receive the education. He also made sure everyone got suitable employment no matter what social class they belonged. He also appealed for a class-free India and the abolition of untouchability. The notification of 1902 created 50% reservation in services for backward classes/communities in the State of Kolhapur. This is the first official instance (Government Order) providing for reservation for depressed classes in India.

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    RajX Reply:

    Aryan theory is a theory cooked up by colonialists to rule over India since they can claim that Indians are not indigenous to the land so they don’t have any claims over it and thus justifying their colonization. It’s sad that “liberal Hindu” ravi is parroting theories cooked up by Europeans to justify their colonization of India. The arabized also use the same strategy to attack dharmic religions claiming parity for the Arab religion with dharmic ones in terms of being indegenous.

    Regarding reservation, it should have always been what it was intended to be for. To help people who are materially “backward”. People have injected caste into it for harvesting votes and now they want to inject religion into. That’s intellectually backward, immoral and disgusting!

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    Ravi Reply:

    RajX

    Is that so.

    I expected this rubbish theory would surface and I thank you to bringing it up.

    I am sorry to say that “Hindu Fundo RajX” is completely wrong. The Aryan migration theory is backed by tons of evidence of the kind that professional Historians accept as evidence.

    I could give you names of INDIAN Historians who – on their honour – would back the Aryan migration theory, but then I am afraid you will only dismiss them as JNU type.

    You would only be convinced if the RSS backed the Aryan Migration theory, but they are not likely to do that, are they.

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    RajX Reply:

    “Hindu liberal” ravi, why push a debunked racist and colonialist theory here in this forum? What’s your agenda “Hindu liberal”? By the way, you are not very different from RSS. Both of you pea brained nitwits believe in the colonialist and racist Aryan theory. So you finally found a soul mate. A weak “Hindu liberal” has found his soulmate in a communal organization. Fantastic. You guys should do a Aryan honeymoon. Nitwit. Repeating the talking points of illiberal Islamist NUTTERS doesn’t make you a liberal. It just makes you a pea brained and brainwashed nitwit.

    Ravi Reply:

    This is little more than a puff of hot air emnating from a guy who seems to have lost total control over himslef.

    RajX Reply:

    Pea brained self proclaimed “Hindu liberal” ravi has no answers. Only ad hominems.. Frothing in the mouth against Indians, Indian culture and tradition is not not going to help your Islamist cause. Sorry little pea brain. Your racist and colonialist theories stink.

    RajX Reply:

    “Hindu liberal” ravi, here is some info for ur pea brain about the debunking the colonialist Aryan theory which a weak and illiberal minded “Hindu liberal” like you are spouting.
    friendsofsouthasia.org/textbook/ComingOfAryans.html

    Ravi Reply:

    RajX

    Equipped with two things:

    1. My Pea Brain

    2. The link you provided.

    This is what I discovered in 5 minutes.

    ______

    1. Isn’t it true that the Aryans Invasion Theory has been disproved? There is no evidence of invasions taking place, and the whole theory is based on flaky linguistic theories.

    The Aryan Invasion Theory has many variants. The Aryan Invasion Theory advocating a purely racial “invasion” proposed by Max Mueller has been questioned by many, including the noted historian, Romila Thapar, in the 1960s. The contemporary theory of Aryan origin corroborates data and evidences from over two dozen different fields of study and demonstrate a pattern of cultural, social and linguistic migration/domination/invasion of people speaking the Indo-European languages from Central Asia into India. This theory about the Aryan origin, which is currently the most authoritative theory among historians, does not state that the Aryans were an indigenous people. For details see: “The Aryan Question Revisited”, by Romila Thapar at http://members.tripod.com/ascjnu/aryan.html .

    The Hindutva groups are misleading the masses by criticizing Max Mueller’s Aryan Invasion Theory (which is already discredited) and cleverly, falsely and deviously claiming that Michael Witzel and others (including Romila Thapar) are supporting Max Mueller’s theory. In fact, under the cover of criticizing Max Mueller, the self -styled Hindutva historians [most of whom are engineers and businessmen] are promoting a theory that Aryans did not migrate from Central Asia but were the original inhabitants of India. This theory has been propped up as a propaganda item on numerous websites and is discussed as a community specific truth within the Hindutva circles. It holds no currency within established historical scholarship.

    YOUR BRAIN IS CLEARLY SMALLER THAN A PEA

    RajX Reply:

    Really? Did you cry when Osama died? My condolences. Osama is now fish food. so why call yourself “liberal Hindu” ravi when you cry over the death of an Islamist? Is deceit allowed in Islam especially when it’s practiced against the kufirs?

    RajX Reply:

    So your pea brain has pea sized memory too? You claimed that RSS did not believe in Aryan theory. They do. Just like you. Two of a kind. A anti Hindu indian nutter and a power hungry nutter both embrace each other. Now you can run around trees, dance and sing a song.

    Anonymous Reply:

    He is no hindu or sikh liberal. He is a fundoo muslim who cried on death of Osama.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Here again terrorist speaks with forked tongue..He claims to be a sikh (Aryan)… AIT has been discredited but terrorists like Ravi still stick to it.

    Warrior and Trader class always got education and also Shudras..this is the reason Ramayana & Mahabharata was written by Shudras..

    This propaganda by terrorists is not going to work anymore. Only muslims are alien to this land as they have refused to assimilate themselves with India unlike others.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    1. There is no such thing as Aryan Invasion/Migration. Indeed, either we are ALL Aryans (muslims included) or none of us are Aryans.
    2. Access to education is actually governed by financial and social considerations, whether a family can afford to send their children school or not is the biggest consideration, which is why schemes like mid day meal are a big success.
    3. Function of reservation is to consolidate votes. If the reservation was intended to address inequities in the society, it would have addressed the financial and social backwardness issues, instead, reservation is only done on the basis of caste.
    4. Reservation does indeed hurt the middle class, because the middle class needs jobs. Reservation, which is anti-merit, takes away jobs just because the person is of the wrong caste. Thus, far from addressing social inequities, reservation actually discriminates against the middle class. Hardly the hallmark of a democracy.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Trapdaar

    You are entitled to your opinions.

    I hope you would accept the simple fact that I disagree with you on the main points.

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    RajX Reply:

    A nutter with manners?? Hahaha…

    Anonymous Reply:

    rajX,
    ravi has on record justified actions of osama..Total terrorist material.

    RajX Reply:

    He is very cunning but still pea brained.

  • anil

    Reservation coupled with Minority Protection Bill is the volatile combination for experimentation on India as merit is relegated to the back seat. It is designed to push it through its transient phase fof tectonic shift.

    After successful implementation of above civilised world can say good buy to India as it will expedite its fall to meet the eventuality, matching Mayan civilisation.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is like taking India back to 1930s muslim league politics. The pro-Jinnah element that were dormant till date have started singing same tune. I actually hold Advani responsible to rehabilitating terrorist Jinnah in Indian mind. He was the most disgusting SOB who was directly responsible for genocide of 1 million hindus-sikhs-muslims.

    The fake sikhs never worry about sikh right but jump on every opportunity to defend muslims who divided India because they demanded that british give then rein of power so that Islamic rule can continue.

    I am amazed to see muslim hypocrisy.,.They divided India and now are claiming to be victims. It is time this hypocrisy is cut short.

    If pakistan wants kashmir, it should take 160 million Indian muslims along with fake sikhs. If it can claim muslim majority land, it should also claim muslim people.

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  • Mohammed

    Muslims never ruled 800 yrs, they ruled parts of India, on an average half of this India for about 500 yrs. Do you say whole muslims have to suffer for the misdeeds of one Syed A Khan? Anyway, if India is a secular and democratic nation run under the present constitution, it has to adopt affirmative action. Otherwise, how would you remove the present systematic social oppresion, suppresion or discrimination? Are you happy with the present morally corrupt society? How would India aspire to become superpower keeping 1/5th of population slave? Under Muslim rule, hindus (brahmins) fluorished, but those who were half hindu (lower class) embraced islam for social dignity. But as the power remained with brahmins, these new muslims were kept oppressed till today.

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    RajX Reply:

    The hallmarks of an arabized person is that he parrots the talking points of the people who converted him even though he knows it’s all bullcr*p. He does it because he needs to justify his immoral action of sleeping with Islamist invaders and thus committing treachery on his own society just to curry favors with the invaders turned rulers. It’s intellectual jujitsu but it only fools the arabized themselves and no body else who knowns history. How predictable your ilk is….

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    engrich Reply:

    rajx brhmns came from central india demolished indus valley civilization then stayed on bank of ganga.sanskrit is not indian language.vedas were not written in india.vedas are full of cows and horses whichare not indians.non brhmns shudras and women are not allowed to touch this holy scripture.

    ban on cow slaughter was imposed by budhdhists.brhmns were cow eaters during their time cow almost reached to the point of extinction.

    as per their holy scripture only white is divine people of other colours are jokers like lord krishna.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It is not the fault of Brahmins that Muslims send their sons to Madrassas instead of schools. How are you going to get ahead in today’s world if only thing you study is the religious books? It is well known that Khans rule the Bollywood, and then we have people like Salman Rushdie, MF Hussain, APJ Kalam etc. It is clear that those muslims who wanted to improve their lives have not been prevented from doing so… The allegations of systematic social oppression are completely false and motivated.

    1/5 of the population is free and always been free. It is their choice if they want to wallow in the slums.

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    engrich Reply:

    traapdar muslims are sending their sons to madarssa because they are cheap.now 40%of students of madarssa are hindus.

    muslims have made more than 1001 innovative inventions.those students came from madarssa.

    europe is against our ancient education system as it is impossible to mentally enslave their student.base of this education system is high moral value.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    OK..Let us accept your opportunistic lie that muslims ruled for 500 years..was this not enough for muslims to prosper?

    The affirmative action as per constitution is only meant for groups victim of caste system. If muslims want reservation they should abandon Islam as it has not fulfilled their aspiration and rejoin hindu faith as SCs and OBCs. No one is stopping you.

    I think muslims are number one in all crimes especially underworld so you should ask yourself that why has Islam created criminals out of normal human beings?

    India can never be superpower till people including muslims and especially muslims breed like rabbits. India is one of the few nations where polio exists because muslims in india consider polio vaccine as conspiracy of kafirs to make muslims impotent.

    Bheek maangne se koi ameer nahi hua mian..Mehnat karo..Bheek maangni hai to muslim countries jaao, jahan tumhare hum-quom ayyashi farma rahein hein.

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    engrich Reply:

    rajeev u punjabis are thieves liars and highly immoral people.
    muslims are hard worker evrycityof northern india is known with muslim handicraft.

    aaj kal pagalpane ka daura zor se pada hai.ya kisi mussalman ne teri ghaand maree hai.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    DO you mean 60% of pakistan is thief?

    The muslims are most immoral people because they can sell their ammies for some money.

  • RajX

    About eighty percent of this article justifies reservations for the former rulers of Islamic India and about ten percent of it says that the former Islamic rulers of India should not take the reservation. About ten percent of it is about bashing the people of India who did not succumb to arabization. Something tells me that Zia would have turned out to be a better person if he had stuck to his childhood principle that he wouldn’t read the Koran because it did not have any colorful pictures. He says

    “There is, in our Constitution, a clear promise for reservations on the basis of “backwardness”.”

    Backwardness of mind can’t be cured by reservation nor can it be used to extort undeserved special benefits to a particular religious community who were the former rulers of India. If “material backwardness” is the criteria for reservation, then I am all for it. Then we don’t need a religious or caste based reservation. I would have had more respect for Zia if he had made that case since that would cover all materially backward people including Muslims without injecting religious poison into reservation just like Zia is trying to do here but to who’s benefit I wonder….

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  • RajX

    Very good points but I suspect that it would fall on deaf ears or at least on people who are acting deaf.

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  • Anonymous

    2/3rd of sub-continental muslims are enjoying 100% reservation..Is that not enough? I fail to understand shamelessness of Indian muslims? They were given choice between secular India and theocratic pakistan. If they wanted reservation, they should have moved to pakistan.

    The fake sikhs can invent history to suit their interest but it is not going to get thru..If muslims try to push their luck, they are in for huge disaster.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WJFSIJXTVCRASYXSML7HIMYP5E nice guy

    There should be no reservations for anyone… rules should be the same for everyone, the over glorified, yuppie youth of today are too dazed with gizmos and fast cars to form an opinion leave alone cast their vote, there is a urgent need to change the demographics of political parties being, run by a consortium of landgrabbers, criminals, the scum of the universe, all fundamentalist parties based on religion creed or caste need to be banned or else well all have to immigrate to other places..!

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    RajX Reply:

    Nice guy, nice points.

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  • Rakesh katyal

    Zia you are asking for reservation without appearing to be doing so. Any reservation based on communal lines will have disastrous consequences. Infact it is only politics which is keeping reservation for Dalits. We should have got over them by now. Like your community excels in keeping its own people backward smilarly well to do Dalits have grabbed the complete benefits of reservations for themselves and are keeping them alive for own benefits. You have to learn to work hard and get your due by sheer hard work. India gives a fair chance to everyone.

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  • Ranjitbajwa123

    I want to add one very important observation about Muslims of the world that their loyalty to the Islam comes first and than to their respective countries AND this mindset will never let them grow in any pluralistic society. Belief that islam is a religion of brotherhood is not true if this would been true than all islamic countries should unite and create on great islamic nation. Fact of the matter is that no two islamic nations are great friend of each other. We should follow our religion but keep nation above any other thing , even above one’s own family

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  • Anonymous
  • RajX

    Dude, you never stop. Do you? Give it a rest.

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  • RajX

    I think it’s better to reform misguided people than reward them with land for their utter idiocy. Anyways there is not enough land to give off to bigoted religious groups anymore. Anyways I believe that most progressive Muslims are an asset to the country unlike some bad apples like our Zia here.

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  • RajX

    Zia should ask himself this question. He says that he writes about “Muslim affairs” for HT. Fine. So why are very few Muslims coming here in this forum for defending his opinions? Are they ashamed of his opinions and don’t consider it mainstream or respect worthy? Take for instance this gem

    “Well, there are those who have even denied the Holocaust ever took place.”

    Why would any Muslim want to defend this kind of gutter level opinions from Zia which compares the people who think that Muslims are not particularly ill-treated in India with holocaust deniers???
    By the way , holocaust deniers of the twenty first century are mostly Muslims led by dear leader from Iran. This is a result of arabization where Muslims who are not Arabs have absorbed the Arab hatred of Jews through their religious networking.

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    engrich Reply:

    the fraud of holocaust was fabricated to create isreal.if it really happened ,why
    anyone who challeenge its validity is sent to 5 year jail.many german professors are languishing.

    TRUTH SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID OF INVESTIGATION.

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  • RajX

    The weak minded will always find some one to blame. In India, they blame the Hindus and in the UK they will blame the white man. This is a victimhood industry and it’s very profitable for some people.

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  • RajX

    Brother Abu, since you are against discrimination, I hope that you are also against Caste and religion based reservation which puts meritocracy in the trash bin and discriminates against people who really work hard in favor of people who do not perform as well.

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  • Anonymous

    No wonder 65% of all bengalis have converted to Islam..

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  • Anonymous

    You seem to be cross between Camel and Donkey.

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  • Anonymous

    The hallmark of muslim societies all over the world especially in non-muslim country is that they depend on Khairaat and always play victim card.
    The commonality between muslims living in non-muslim countries-
    1. Khairaat dependent.
    2. a sense of vicitimhood
    3. Cry baby
    4. hatred for host country
    5. Immense love for fascist muslim countries.
    6. No repect for non-muslims’
    7. Demand total respect for Islam
    8. use of violence
    9. propaganda against jews
    10. Spread lies like ‘Islam is religion of peace’ (actualy they mean ‘religion of piece’ as they always want to divide host country).
    11. Demand secularism when it suits them and demand Sharia where they are in majority.

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  • engrich

    13%reservation should be given to high.muslims should have 15% as per numbers.70%to backwards and dalits.

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  • Anonymous

    Go around in muslim colleges and see representation of non-muslims in different teams.

    You guys just whine.

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  • RajX

    If you want to experience what real discrimination is like, live as a Hindu in any Islamic society of your choice. Islamic societies operate as cults and have internalized and institutionalized discrimination based on their religious bigotry which they are taught at a very young age. The people who beleive in the dharmic way of life did not. If they had, your name won’t be Abu Ahmed but some ram Singh or Bheem Singh. Arabization speaks through people like you. You have to understand that turning you against your own forefathers culture is a surefire way of keeping you within the imposed and foreign “faith”. You may be unaware of it since you are in the targeted bubble but millions are spent by a certain govt in the middle east in India just for this singular cause. You have to ask yourself what a foreign govt gets in return for funding madrases, mosques and propaganda against the dharmic way?

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    Abu Ahmed Reply:

    Thats a typical casteist way of dealing with issues. Racism, casteism, class differences are all there in the world – even the most primitive tribe in the jungles of Africa would consider itself the best people on earth – thats something inevitable. However, casteism is an article of faith and part of life Hinduism with the help of which since thousands of years people have been oppressed, killed, raped and pillaged in India. Arabs are racist obviously, but not Islam, for thats the first religion in the world to demolish many isms are liberate mankind from the yoke of priest-led worship and control over knowlede. Ideologically it sees no difference between peoples – for God says in the Quran that the best people are those who do good on earth and aware that God is watching them. Its your arrogance and hatred that you still hold on to casteism and other misplaced notions. Indian Muslims are not begging for reservations – it is the Sonias, the Mayawatis, the Phulmatis and the Bhagmatis who are after Muslim votes and are as usual trying to appease and then dump muslims after elections.

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    RajX Reply:

    Islam replaced priests with mullahs who are infinitely worser than any Hindu priest. Hindu priests never go after political power like the mullahs do. Regarding control over knowledge, the Arabs through Islam, invasion and occupation have claimed the inventions and discoveries of other societies as their own and called it”Islamic inventions”. Unfortunately the arabized in non Arab societies have become a tool for this kind of disgusting intellectual theft.

    Talking about article of faith, cultism is an article of faith in Arab Islam. That’s the reason why Islam teaches you to see the world in two. One is a Muslim and the other is a kafir. Your forefathers Hinduism doesn’t teach you think in that bigoted way. You seem to have conveniently forgotten the murders, robbery, rape and slave owning commited by the “messenger of god” and his band of thugs. Arab society had some merit before islam. After mohamad and his islam, its all moral darkness for them. I can understand that you have to justify arabization and the Arab cult because not doing so would negate the whole life you have led so far. In Islam, there is no way out. Once you are in, you are in even if you want to leave. I pity your state.

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    RajX Reply:

    Hahaha..wahab..what is this about?

    engrich Reply:

    ur hinduism is money minting bussines.we teach morality.hinduism cannot be called religion.as man is unequal at birth.it is more a system.

    RajX Reply:

    By the way, would you prefer living as a Hindu in a Islamist cesspool like Pakistan? Maybe in your worst nightmare. Unfortunately in most Islamic society, bigotry is a way of life. Islam plays a part in this bigotry since the bigotry is justified by these islamist bigots by quoting from Mohamads Koran. It’s obviously not a very nice book if bigots of all stripes find a lot of stuff in there to justify their actions.

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  • Anonymous

    You are spewing typical muslim propaganda…Divide hindus and enjoy at their cost. We can see thru your designs.

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  • engrich

    if u have particular point challenge.read argumentative indians.horses and cows are not indian animal.see ur epics.all kings ang holy people are white evil persons are black brown or blue.

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    RajX Reply:

    Krishna is blue. Was he evil?

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  • Mohammed

    Well, Sachar report says affirmative action has benifitted greatly to SCs and STs. So why not to poor muslims? They don’t need Hajj subsidy. Sachar report found that only 3% muslim children goes to madrassas, Only poor muslims send their children, because it is completely free and but serves at least two purposes, a low paid job of priest/imam and the religious knowledge to keep the islamic tradition. Jiziya tax is a normal tax to an able non-muslim like a muslim pays the tax (Zakat). Only the names are different. Tax citizens pay everywhere. So don’t put some absurd arguments. Muslims are striving, but need some govt. support.

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  • dead_terrorist

    pakistan can be divided further so as to make room for those indian muslims who want to separate from india!!!

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  • RajX

    “I fail to understand why, if reservation is good for Dalits, is it bad for Muslims”

    Who can argue with that? Is that your “winning” argument?

    I also failed to understand why, if reservation is good for Muslims, is it bad for all nonmuslims. After all, a significant section of people from the muslim religious group divided the country on religious lines in 1947 resulting in that Islamist cesspool we now call Pakistan which has become a headache not only for India but for the whole world.

    That’s my winning argument.

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    engrich Reply:

    reservation should be provided to weaker section whether muslim or non muslim.u cannot keep a part of bharat mata paralysed.everthless muslims are also indian.why so much hate.

    in up w are 18.5%.our representation in patwari/lekhpal is only .6%same in other services.if we will be part of system we will have feeling of ownership with system ,which will enhance patriotism.

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  • Anonymous

    Bush is white so is he more divine than Mohammad and your Allah?

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    engrich Reply:

    according to brhmnst yes

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  • Anonymous

    Egnrich says “because he was blue.not white.only white is divine and worth praising and honour.”

    Does that mean WHITE Bush is more divine than BROWN Mohammad? Never knew muslims love Bush so much.

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    engrich Reply:

    rajeev very stupid comparison.neverthless brhmnast were supporting britishers
    against indian.bhasmasur is black.while durga is white.

    in islam all colors are same.i talked about vedics.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How is it stupid? You don’t find Quran stupid which is full of nonsense…Grow some brain..

    Why you keep blaming brahmin and jews for your birth?

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    engrich Reply:

    teri maa ka chhot pagal

    RajX Reply:

    Tejinder, don’t hate Hindus and Jews. They are more civilized than the Arabs.

    engrich Reply:

    jews are our cousins brhmn are like brothers.i hate brhmnsm and zoinism.these are satanic anti-god thought hurting the people.
    they want to built ram mandit in ayodhya.what it actually means.
    it means .to ignite war between shaivite and vaishanvitesayodhya is headquarter of shaivaties.
    historically shaivites killed vaishanvites in his areaa and vica versa.
    these 2 satanic forces follow shaitan not bhagwan.i expose them.
    see how zoinists ruined iraq afghanistan libya
    and india before.

  • engrich

    ravi bahi and shan,a good video,

    Libya War Lies – Worse Than Iraq – Video – Thomas Mountain

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  • engrich

    the above shows ur lack of knowlledge.except pakistan all muslim countries of the world iincluding saudi arabia run on reason,not on religion.

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  • engrich

    Universities like AMU, Jamilia Milia, Hamdard have how many hindu students, and they are good universities

    in good facaulties percentage of hindu student is more than 50%.

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  • engrich

    descrimination is base of hinduism.they descriminate everybody ,except their jaatiwalas,hence dont complain.keep ur hand in pocket,while dealing with them.

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  • engrich

    what is wrong u bhadrlok ,chang ur skin like lizard to fool inians.40 yrs u became marxist to fight islam.did nothing for indians.enjoyed urslf.u are 13%.take 13%share of national wealth.
    u are looting india since arrival of britishers.u were their a$$ licker and bootpolishers.helped them to kill half the population of bengal bihar and orrisa in first 50 years of rule.
    muslims always change.for u people it is the same ,vivekanand,tagore and blood thirsty durga from 150yrs.no election ,no change in surrounding is bringing any social or mental change.
    poors of bangla desh is in far better position than poorsof wb

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  • RajX

    Hahahaha…tejinder, Krishna is not a real person. He is a character in a mythology. I set a trap for you and you fell right into it. By the way, it looks like arabization not only distorts history of real world but it also distorts the mythical world of mythology. Funny man!

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