Front row view: Grand finale of WLIFW

The EU itself is reeling under the recession with many countries facing the music and the better ones struggling to maintain its own pace. We have seen what has happened to the Euro. Enough lessons therein for South Asia to learn from.

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Stunned silence to your article – because people are as dumb-stuck by the turn of events in Iraq & Afghanistan as the Nato forces operating over there. One most unfathomable and unintended benefit of these interventions was that the brutal excesses of the occupying forces over their vanquished quarry was that it jolted the Arabs to take to the much-fancied Arab Street and usher in the Arab Spring. Totally unintended, still an of-shoot of the intervention and subsequent excesses comitted by the Occupation.

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Well I don’t follow the intricate details Afghanistan for years but is was a refreshing read. Thoroughly enjoyed reading and specially the line “Generals, who apparently outnumber tanks in the top-heavy British army, have declared every year as the “decisive year” in Afghanistan since 2003″ brought a chuckle .

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Good article,l really hope the lndians would read this and realise what they are doing wrong,because l think the problem with people are being racist towards other people is that they dont put themselves in the persons shoes. The lndians have to change or better still they should never travel out of lndia if they feel they are more righteous than the rest of the world.

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Yes, it was indeed a pleasure to go through this article as a matter of fact. But it’s accuracy has been challenged by one of the fellow blogger who disputes about what the author says about Gen. Bikram Singh being related to the PM. The author needs to clarify it.
BNA

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Do we see ominous sign of Civillian-Military fight? Will we see a coup one day when like of Laloo and Sonia will be hauled up in military court? Just thinking loud…

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The politicians and bereaucrats have a chip on their shoulder and an inferiority complex where army men are concerned. Therefore these scumbags never miss an oppurtunity to humiliate army people. They humiliated upright heroes like General Thimayya and Field Marshal Manekshaw among others. They praise Bin Laden as ‘Osamaji’. The megalomaniac Krishna Menon, defence minister under Nehru, used to call the Army Chief for 4am meetings for silly reasons. He and Nehru caused the army’s defeat in 1962 by their shoddy mishandling.

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UPA II has faux passed all its governance in the last 3 years.It has abdicated its responsibility in 2G scam CWG scam Adarsh Scam and now the army chief age problem.PM is statue in PMs house.He is not taking any action himself but doing all his talks by promptings by sonia.DM is under sonia.The issue of age of COAS is a issue which should have solved by PM himself but as he didnot took any decision huimself it is made muddy.Now SC would have to say whatever it likes but damage has been done 2 army and govt.

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The General has been forced to take this drastic step because of inept manner in which the govt has handled this whole affair.The govt and the MOD has once again shown how it has over the years treated the Armed Forces and its heads with total disdain.Had been the case of rectification in the error in age of the Defence Secretary, I don’t it would have been done pronto with no untoward leaks to the press affecting the honour and integrity of person concerned.

Gautam Tandon

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Both ,Mr MMS and Mr Antony are the guilty and fall guys of 2012 Age scam

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Incompetant Govt Handling

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Maybe I am not too smart, but I still don’t get it! This “honor” part of the General. Throughout his career he went along on one age, got his promotions & medals on this age and now he suddenly wants the government to say he is actually a year younger – and that his ‘honor’ depends on that?!
What is the man upto?!

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Absolutely General Singh is Great Sodie no doubt about it. It is not a easy job to reach the highest position.In Jobs Seniority Counts and He got Promotions on the Seniority Basis after reaching the Highest Goal you cant ask to lower the date of birth as he may not be able to reach this position because other seniors may have promoted.

He is role model to India he cant fight this Case in this way, he is demoralizing Armies code of Conduct it is very sad that to of his Caliber very bad.

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After serving & reaching on TOP he is not supposed to be so greedy. It doesn’t deserve to the chief of the indian army. priybrat you are absolutely rigt.

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Can anybody please shed the light that what was the minimum age requirement to selection for NDA at the time Gen VK Singh’s enrolement and what was his age stand out to be if we consider his DOB to be May 10, 1951?

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If the correct date of birth of Gen V K Singh is May 10,1951 as contended by the Law Ministry as well as the general himself, Gen VK Singh was most probably not eligible, being under age for appearing in the NDA Exam in 1965. UPSC Need to examine the issue and clarify. It appears that wrong date was entered in the application form for NDA with the aim to make him eligible for the exam.”

It should be clarified as to the age limits criteria for entry into the NDA in 1965, i.e., if the DOB (Year) is claimed to be 1951, did this date come within limits? If not then the General is probably guilty of entering the army by fraudulent means. Was the DOB not compared with the Matriculation Certificate by the UPSC ? If not the UPSC officials should also be punished U/S 120-B IPC. We have to to first check this out.

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Having been placed in the situation where his integrity was in question Gen VKS did the right thing. However, I do believe that he should never have allowed the previous COAS to browbeat him in accepting a wrong DOB. His written acceptance will be the negative factor.
Sangha

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If the homosexuals give up their ‘ in your face’ attitude and missionary kind proselytizing,they would be pretty nice guys.

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Re: The rising number of rapes.

Are the numbers rising, or is it that women feel more confident in REPORTING sexual assaults? If it’s the latter, while still horrible they were attacked, it’s a sign of a progressing society.

What happens in the bedrooms of consenting adults should not be legislated by governments or religions. If you want to live in a free and equal society, you have to learn tolerance.

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Educational advancement and economic progress would make our society tolerant and humane in time. Its good that the courts have pushed the envelope so some extent.

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MOST INDIANS ARE RACIST! No doubt about that! I am an Indian brought up in India and currently in UK for work (nopes, not one of the South-Indian IT types with disheveled hair and bad hygiene who talk loudly on their phones all through their train journey disregarding the looks they get from other passengers).

My earliest memories of encountering racism in India was when playing football (while most other Indians were busy sucking up to their cricketing gods). Although I was in school in 9th grade, I used to play with a senior team. A group of African students came and asked if they could join us. We allowed them, but then many of my team-mates starting addressing them with expletives. I feel very ashamed of my team-mates behaviour but I was a junior so didn’t speak up. I wish I had done.

This was in the 1990’s when I saw an influx of African and middle-eastern students in India. I don’t see too many of them anymore. Perhaps they figured out what a racist lot we are and stopped coming. It’s a shame though, because Indian education system is one of the best if you consider how little one has to spend on education. We could’ve had a major industry going and created a name for ourselves.

The treatment of south-indians and also people from the north-eastern states of India when the come to Mumbai, Delhi etc is also well-known. Incidentally, I always detested when my friends made fun of my South-Indian classmates while I was in India. However, as you might’ve noticed in the first para, I’ve developed an aversion for the south indians myself now since I’ve moved to UK. This is because of the following reasons:

I find the South-Indian techie guys in UK very arrogant. I’ve encountered some of them at work, and they seem to look at me with a surprised look such as “I thought I was the only Indian here, how dare you follow me as well?”. They seem to have been plucked from an engineering college in remote Tamil Nadu and shipped straight out to UK without a crash course in etiquette. The less said about their dress sense, the better. I don’t understand why many of them don’t shave – as it doesn’t make them all look like Arvind Swamy. And I wish they could comb or style their hair. But forget about superficial looks. What gets on my nerve is their lack of etiquettes. They smell and yawn in public transport. They don’t like to queue up! Others stand by waiting for passengers to alight, and suddenly you see a south-indian brother elbowing others and barging up the train door. Then they would plug in their white i-phone handsfree in their ears and start talking loudly throughout the journey disturbing others in the packed train. No wonder they get beaten up in Australia!

I wish the government introduces a module on etiquette and being a good brand ambassador for India in the tech colleges of southern India!

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Yup I am Indian and racist.I keep that attitude ,not because I discriminate on the basis of ones skin tone or hair texture,but because I am Indian.I am the true root of the oldest civilisation in the world.We have never hurt anyone or stolen anybodies oil, we gave this world geometry, math , science, Yoga,medicine and the art of sensuality.I am a vedic Aryan and I cannot see some white neaderthal claim cultural equality with me,why?, because they dont have a culture, and as a collective lot,the anglo saxons are barbaric ,uncivilised resource munchers and deceivers.If you observe the news, these mlecchas and uncivilised varghas have no sense of morality or justice, they just want to keep ripping apart the life of mother earth, afflicting many an innocent people,fighting the weak and what not.Our dharma is not theirs, neither can we adjust to their self deception.And whites shouldnt be talking about racism, these mlecchas and uncvilised neanderthals who came out of their caves in the recent past when the romans arm twisted them, are the patrons of black slavery.In the least, we just treat you as uncvilised mlecchas , or in other words, unevolved races and not kep you like a dog, how you afflicted the blacks.Dharam, righteousness, justice, culture, truth and peace.This is what we stand for.

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Na, Indians dont treat white people as anything, you are not a bone of contention at all.Average Indian family in the US – 88,000 Dollars.Average neaderthal family – 35,000/year.To date a white man is like cultural suicide for an Indian, to marry a White girl !!!.Wow, Moms gonna commit suicide.Aryans dont worship anyone but themselves and we dont let whites or blacks into our circle.Nice try though.

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‘The begger’s are racist’..I would guess the reason they target white people is because they know the rich Indians don’t give much. Fact is the level of stereotyping (racism is a wrong word, and hence the whole article should be reworded) of this woman, which amounts to slight irritation but to no lack of material wants (like not being hired or socially despised), is nothing compared to what Indians face due to actual discrimination worldwide. Fact is Indians have internalized western racism and hence treat whites more favourably than themselves (and true blacks are perceived worse) which is a shame. Indian tourist sites charging extra for foreigners is akin to foreigners charging indians greater fees in their universities and hospitals and so isn’t relevant point in this discussion of racism. The fact is that white people often take advantage of this internal racism. It is sad that they are so blind to it.

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I am a proud ABCI/coconut who is ashamed of my Indian roots because PIO’s especially those of NI origin are the most racist people on the planet. Go to any country with an PIO population and you will be shocked at the way they talk about people of SI or African origin – just check out the comments by Sameer for example. Also in Fiji and African countries the PIO’s segregate themselves from the locals and are hated. In western countries thy lick the asses of white people but treat blacks and other dark skinned asians/PIO’s like ****.
Oh and to the commenter Sameer, I live in Sydney and can tell you that most Indian students are racist Punjabi’s including those that ran back home to their mummies.

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“there is a belief that white people get advantages”. Are you kidding? Indians have been given millions of the best IT jobs in USA FOR FREE which whites created. Indians have virtually taken over Silicon Valley which was created by white Americans. Indians are the most privileged group in all of America. No other race has had an entire industry pre-made by whites HANDED to them for free. Stop the racism and cribbing. Indians are so advantaged everywhere they go it’s not even funny. Yet you people still want more.

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Millions of Indians are deliberately keeping white Americans out of jobs in the USA. Racist? That would be Indians, not whites.

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Whites aren’t fond of Indians because you take over all the IT jobs we created and keep us out of jobs IN OUR OWN COUNTRY. It has nothing to do with your skin color you fool.

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Yes Indians are most certainly racist. Gora and habshee and mooslims oh my! Most likely rooted in the self loathing stemming from the Raj as well as the EVIL varna (caste system).

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I lived and worked in India for 6 years. I’m a black female. I have afro textured hair. I’ve always been heavy so I had no habit of wearing miniskirts or shorts even in the US. I wore loose-fitting salwars and ankle length skirts.

After the first year or so, the comments I got, strangers touching my hair, led me to avoid all eye contact with males I didn’t know. I was pretty conservative and cautious while interacting with the male colleagues I did know.

I once visited a dance club in Bangalore along with white expat colleagues. The guys were so excited because there was a bigger expat population in Bangalore than in Hyderabad. Some of the women there wore halter tops and shiny sandals. Even some of the younger Indian women wore tank tops and jeans. I had no ‘club clothes’. Western wear didn’t come in my size in India. I’m too large. I wore black slacks, flat sandals, no makeup and a black tee-shirt that was loose fitting. Still, I was approached by someone who after a few minutes of banal conversation, explained to me that price was no object.

When I would meet people, I would briefly shake hands with but not smile at the males. I would speak and emote freely with the women and as extremely formal as possible with men. I didn’t want to be seen as unsociable but I felt I could benefit by not being friendly and esp by not being SEEN as friendly towards men in India.

At one point, I spent 6 months walking to and from work. I would cross the street or duck into doorways when men were passing by or walking behind me. Even in a salwar, I could rarely fly under the radar. So, I felt it very important to make an exaggerated show of avoiding male contact. Maybe people thought me weird instead of modest. It was worth taking that hit.

I often covered my hair because I felt it’s texture played a major role in attracting attention – Unfortunately, that gave the impression I was a foreign born black muslim woman – and increased police attention came my way.

Some people have said that foreign women ‘earned’ the reputation we have. Others say that foreign men simply misunderstand various situations. I say they see us as a safe bet. There’s little to be lost by approaching us in ways we don’t like. After all, what do they care if they alienate us – esp as blacks. There’s no loss of face, the community won’t shun them for bad behaviour to a low status foreigner. In fact, the first question would be to me as a foreigner: “Where is your husband? Why are you not at home?” And for them there can be the Indian version of male high-fiving just for daring to approach a woman that way. It did seem to be a game for some.

I remember once bicycling with a local cycling group and seeing kids make pig sounds as I passed by. A far cry from the evolved, ‘respectful’ stereotype my teachers and parents had taught me when referring to Asian culture.

India is a fascinating country with lots of ancient knowledge, artifacts, architecture and other cultural resources worth preserving.

But what I say most about the experience of living there is “It was educational” because I certainly learned my lesson while India.

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“Most black people in America are ghetto” – of course we are Arnoldelango. And it’s not at all racist to believe we are, Sir.

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Really? So movies excuse my being treated like a ***** even when my dress and behaviour are conservative and platonic?

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Indians racist? What about Europeans who stole Indians’ money? What about turning India from the “Golden Bird” to developing country? What about European Imperialism that whites were superior? What about the sign “No Indians or dogs allowed” in public places in India? What about westerners who placed corrupt government in place while Europeans were leaving India? Racism? From more than 200 years India is poor because of your ancestors.

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Dude, there was no racism until India was invaded by Europeans. Due to them, we lost self respect for ourselves and our culture. We are racist now unfortunately, but it is because of Europeans.

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I’m English and I’ve lived here for 11 years and you have no idea what’s its like to go to school here. I have never hit anyone, never abused anyone and have never said any arrogant comments to a teacher but still for some reason I visit the headmasters office about three every month and either get beaten with a stick or sent home. More than half of the time I don’t even know what it’s for. Mainly for small things like not bringing a pen etc. The stundents are even worse. I often get beaten up or being called “firangi” which is means white person, it’s just as bad as the “N” word in English it’s not a respectful word. If I try and talk to any Indian girls then they get harassed by everyone. I have made a few friends and big gangs have threatened to beat them up if they keep hanging out with me. i often get beaten after history classes about the British raj. Foreigner who come here haven’t got a clue about the fact they being abused in public as non of them can speak Hindi. Rickshaw drivers charge foreigners up to Rs200 for only 5 kilometres whereas the normal price is Rs5. You are right about the fact that beggars pick on foreigners more. What pisses me off the most is that these beggars respect rich Indians so much and they treat us like shite. I agree that some of the Bollywood movies are also towards westerners . They think that all westerners sex addicts especially because of these movies. No matter what people say about racism in the west it’s just as bad here and there’s nothing we can do about it.

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i totally accept most of your points ..bollywood is a curse.. – from an well-educated indian..

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Periyar Maniammai University in Thanjavur-Tamil Nadu where they discriminate students from Kerala and other states.The staff treat students as slave because they are from other state and want to study.They don’t teach in this university and students just sit free.No proper examination system at all.University is just minting money don’t even care about the students. Many students have left Periyar Maniammai university when it was dilisted becauz of the torture they faced for being an other state student in everything.Periyar Maniammai University is worst university.Never should a student from Kerala dare to enter this palce.they don’t speak english but tamil and if some speaks engl tey laugh.Total a village where only students from village come and study, never join PERIYAR MANIAMMAI UNIVERSITY and spoil your life as we did in two years MBA department from kerala

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