Need to mind the minders



Growing up in a small town with two sisters and moving to Bombay to live with family friends who only had three sons, I never knew what -or who- was not a gentleman.

My Uncle B had brought up his sons as he would have daughters -they had a curfew hour to get home each evening, even when they became working men in their own right; they had to help their mother around the house even in things like cooking and mundane chores like dusting and they also had to being their men friends home – and my uncle surreptitiously assured himself of their backgrounds – before they were allowed to spend a boys’ night out in a particular friend’s home, etc.

I and my sisters, on the other hand, were brought up to be tough cookies. My father told me early in life not to trust any man between 20 and 50 until I knew them very well -and to hold my distance until I did get to know them well. Also never to get beaten down or tolerate even the slightest misdemeanour on the part of any man or be afraid of anyone or anything – and never to give up or stop believing in my own values.

So it was not surprising that during a particular argument with one of Uncle B’s sons, I drove him crazy and refused to either give in or give up, he just lost it by shouting as loud as he could, “Shut up!”

Of course, I was so startled at being shouted at in that fashion that it did stop me in my tracks for a moment. But my uncle was in the room before I could catch my breath. His cold anger was now enough to in turn shut his son up. “Have I ever taught you to talk like that to any woman?” he asked his son “Have you ever heard me talk to your mother like that even when she is driving me crazy? So where is that nonsense coming from?”

A simple sorry was enough for me but nit for his father who gave him such a lecture on how to behave that even I got bored to death and could not help sending him sympathetic looks that embarrassed him even further.

So, even today,I am surprised, shocked and disgusted when any man talks insultingly to and of women. Like Muqtar Abbas Naqvi of the BJP did in reaction to candle light vigils by women after 26/11 in Bombay calling it a crazy show by women in lipstick and powder. More recently Sanjay Nirupam of the Congress was completely out of place in a derogatory reference to Smriti Irani as a TV dancer who could not be taken seriously as a party spokesperson. Then the President’s son, Abhijit Mukherjee, dismissed the anti-rape protests in New Delhi as just a pink revolution and one by painted and dented women, whatever he meant by that. And to top it all even the usually politically correct Communist Party was spared no blushes by one of its own MPs who offered not just West Bengal chief minister Mamata Banerjee but all women in this county the deepest offence and insult by asking what her rate card would be for compensation in case of a rape!

These are all well known members of Indian polity, whatever party they may belong to and I cannot but help thinking that something certainly went wrong with their psyche -as it almost did with my Uncle B’s son – when they did not find better and brainier arguments against people (who were incidentally women) who have/had opposing or differing points of view.

I recall when I started out as a journalist there was a chief minister of Maharashtra to whom some women journalists had carried complaints about how they could not walk to the Victoria Terminus suburban station, Bombay’s most famous landmark after work (as reporters most of us used to finish only around 9pm). He had then made a most derogatory comment about working women. “No decent woman from a good family should be on the streets after 7pm,” he had said in response to the complaint that Victoria Terminus used to become a hangout for sex workers and their pimps after that hour thus endangering women returning home from work each day.

Far from asking police officers to take action and clean up the city, the CM chose to exhibit a deeply inset prejudice against women, in turn followed by one top cop who took a similar line when women journalists complained to him about the preponderance of pornographic material on the road side book stalls.”Why are decent women looking for such material in those book stores?” he questioned adding insult to injury by asking us to stay satisfied with Mills and Boons and go no further.

Very recently a judge in Karnataka had said it was okay for a woman to be beaten up by her husband so long as he took care of her existential needs, Then there was also a similar antediluvian view expressed by a judge in the Bombay high court but thankfully it did not translate into a judgement.

Such are the men we choose as our representatives and in authority. They are expected to mind the anti-socials against all inhuman activities and not just against women. They should all have been spanked hard in their growing years as my uncle did his sons to make them gender-sensitive, there is no machismo in stamping on and trampling over women.

But now who will mind these medieval minders?

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  • Anonymous

    Who cares if one steps in and another steps out… Who is the real power in Pakistan? Army and jehadists have formed a strong union, no PPP or any other party can dislodge it; may be a “arab spring” type mass movement can — even then it can turn out to be like what is happening in many “freed’ Arab countries, where even more extremists such as Salafis are taking over.

    Mrs Bhutto, a pro Indian? She and Hamid Gul made blood flow in Kashmir. She installed Taliban in Afghanistan. She turned Kashmir into a Jehadi playground.

    I agree that Zardari has been good to India. I do believe he wants peace and does not want any shenanigans of Kashmir.. he understands prosperity will lead to peace.

    How can anybody in the right mind, in modern times, even suggest that the junior Bhutto be an inheritor/is an inheritor of PPP leadership??????

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    Some part of India and Paksitan suffer from the old domestic servant mentality. They want to serve their raja and sing songs in their praise. Then pray that the Raja is succeeded by the Yuvraj, so goodies will keep coming in.

    As I have noticed, ever since I got in a comparison with domestic servants and serf mentality, many people on this blog are getting repressed in voicing their servility.

    I think this is one way to drive out this inferiority complex. :) :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Somehow I missed that evolution on the site !

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  • Anonymous

    Whatever Zardari says or believes makes no difference. He does not have a power
    and his son is too young to be taken seriously.

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  • Anonymous

    I think the PPP will need Nawaz to keep out Imran Khan who is acting like a pied piper leading a parade consisting of reasonable elements to fundoos like hafeez Saeed.

    On hindsihgt Nawaz and Zardari happen to be our best bets. Both are shrewd Property Dealer type of people. If we need to engage them we will have to ensure that they get some profit through their business companies. Good part is that both lack personal charisma which sweeps our rather immature media which gets floored by the Imran- Benazir type of politician and forgets what India’s interest is.

    Ultimately we need to help the US mobilse 150 countries and confront Pakistan in a manner Nazi Germany and Hitler were, so that the Pakistanis once for all give up nukes, fundoos, drug trade, reoigious cnversions, exterminating minoirties…

    and instead concentrate on

    Cricket, hockey, seeing Sharukh Khan and Prianka Chopra films and of course creating a Pakistan of Ghaffar Khan’s dreams… not of Iqbal or jinnah’s dreams.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju
    The mass mobilization of force as you suggested is a good alternative.
    Another one that works well is a UN or US sanction crippling their army – but in both these cases their nukes make things unpredictable.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    I am already inserting the idea on US blog sites, including that of newsweek. Somewherre if the world gets together— and not just US or India– Pakistan will get diarrehea. I think all of us… you, Mohan, Shenoy, Pankaj etc should pick up this mass mobilisation idea on web sites, so that it floats around. I would also request Ravi to do so.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    You are quite near to pakistan of my liking. Good post.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “…Ultimately we need to help the US mobilse 150 countries and confront Pakistan in a manner Nazi Germany and Hitler were,…”

    -

    A little farfetched idea and wishful thinking. Pakistan plays a significant role in USA’s local geo-politics. it’s not expendable.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Sanjay

    Frankly it is possible. When the US got hit in 9/11 it went into Afghanistan and then Iraq. It lost a considerable degree of global goodwill and lot men. It committed 20 billion USD to Pakistan and ended up finding Osama in Pak Army’s undie.

    At this point US is itching to withdraw. But is unsure whether the leT, Al Queeda and jaish may just pull a 10/12, bigger then 9/11/ Most of Europe, Russia,, China and India know that Pakistan will soon go back to its old tricks. For them defending Hafeez Saeed is more important than punishing the guilty of 26/11.

    The US is a gambler. It can be probably be tempted to start a mobilisation which could actually change Paksitan for its own good..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Not probable.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I would say that things change very fast in this world. In case a 26/11 type attack happens in a NATO nation or say Russia, then the model of this can work out very well.

    India shouls make a framewok around this and float it in the UN. Countries like UK which gave us moral lectures to listen to the Paksitanis have changed their tune int he past few years after recieving the mithai of Pak terror in Londoan bombings and regular doses of fundmantilism…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Things always change fast for other ********, not mine.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I Understand that. :)

    But India has to fan the international tandoor. Even China has listed Paksitani terrorists 4 days back…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Trained in Pakistan….not Pakistani terrorists. And China did not name Pakistan.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Even for China…
    terror is a “Made in paksitan ” product !

    China is ruthlessly selfis for its concern.

    just before 2008 Beijing it just dumped alsmost all Paksitanis and blacks out of beijing. In case it sees it world wide movement against pakistan… it may just ask its pet cat to stop mewing…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Geo-politics is a matrix. Nothing is evaluated in isolation.

    For an example, you love those Pakistanis who criticise Pakistan or islam. You don’t love them per se. You love them because they are your enemy’s enemy.

    It works for others too.

    Ravi Reply:

    Agreed

    Anonymous Reply:

    Totally a banal idea and laughable to say the least.. As if US will base its policies and responses, based on campaign on blog sites.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Now Now…

    it will all depend on what you laugh at. :)

    I laugh at people who are willing to forget jehadi terror in a hurry to shake hands and also laugh at people who suffer from domestic servant mentality to serve dynasties…

    Of course you laugh at people… who are tryign to create ideas to eradicate terror from Pakistan and try to defang it…

  • Anonymous

    Pankaj / Mohan

    We were discussing the menace of religion in he previous blog.

    Now why should people be so keen to reach out to God, when he is not bothered? ;-)

    Sahir Ludhianvi, 54 years ago had this to say

    ‘aasmaan pe khudaa aur zameen pe ham, aaj kal woh iss terah dekhtaa hai kam’.

    Phir Subah Hogi (1958)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYkFv8BgJek

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  • Anonymous

    Urn burial site discovered near Kancheepuram

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article3294390.ece?homepage=true

    A vast urn-burial site has been found at Mandapam village, near Aarpakkam intersection, about 14 km from Kancheepuram.

    The importance of the site, archaeologists say, is that it belongs to a period earlier than the Megalithic Age or Iron Age in Tamil Nadu.

    They estimate that the site is datable to 1,800 BCE to 1,500 BCE, that is, 3,800 to 3,500 years before the present.

    ————

    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    Sharmaji,
    We could’ve done much much better with this blog posting.
    Let us start at our actual fault-lines with Pakistan.
    Kashmir ?
    Mostly relegated to between Indian union and Kashmir. So, nothing here.
    Afghanistan ?
    Murky – but then here is my own anecdotal observation. An year or so saw us and Pakistan conflicting in Afghansitan. Anecdotes of this conflict emerged mostly in the form of news sources pointing to our embassy staff being targetted in shootings and bombings. Notice the operative phrase here – an year or so back. Suddenly it has stopped. What does that hint to ? Basically some “sub-terrainian” arrangement in Afghanistan region.
    So, the question – what has prompted this ? Surely, not Mr. Zardari, right ?
    Oh, and BTW, Thanks to Mr. Zerdari for those 1 Mn. Dollars.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    hey, what does he care about a million dollars? Somewhere I read the stolen (10% or whatever) amounts to $1.5 billion.

    But, at the core, i think he is a peace loving person, wants Pak and India to forge ahead with prosperity, trade.. But his keepers will never allow….

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    Ravi Reply:

    Mahesh

    Like you I think the US has reduced India’s role in post withdrawl Afghanistan.

    However, India still has a role and Pakistan is refusing to give up the Haqani Network.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    Thanks for one million dollars ?

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  • Anonymous

    Manohar and Vinay,
    Will respond to your postings (FDI and the alternate history) somewhat later.
    Just that I am a bit challenged currently in terms of work schedule, nothing more.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Sanjay

    Well I have to post my reply right at top as there is little space in the box …

    I think you have made a pretty loose statement that I hate islam ! and paksitan !!

    From all my postings show me one where I have used hate for Islam. I have an opinion on it. That when it became a religion, it was egalitarian and a movement for bettrement. however like many other religions the priests– mullas took charge— over a period of time and distorted the spirit and preached that they knew everything whaich was meant to be known.

    They are good people who are Muslims, they are bad people who are Muslims, as it is for any other religion, good people who are Hindus and bad people who are hindus, good Sardars and bad sardars etc etc.

    In my opinion , there is nothing sacrosanct about religion. Human rights, gender equality, the right to leave religion, supermacy of scientific fact for me supercedes any written text which goes against this….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “…I think you have made a pretty loose statement that I hate islam ! and paksitan !!…”

    I said you like those pakistanis who criticise Pakistan.. enemy’s enemy is a friend…that was just an example to prove a point about Geo-politics. It has nothing to do with you.

    Please mark the difference.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks !

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  • Anonymous

    Vinodji

    A disappointing blog by you this time. It is neither here nor there.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    What disappointed you and what would have made it more satisfying.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There is nothing new that is not in public domain.

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  • Anonymous

    Nitish Kumar on MNS threat: I don’t need visa to go to Mumbai

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Nitish-Kumar-on-MNS-threat-I-dont-need-visa-to-go-to-Mumbai/articleshow/12600554.cms

    Chief minister Nitish Kumar on Monday remained unfazed over the reported threat by MNS to disallow Bihar divas celebrations in Mumbai, saying no one can stop him from attending the event and he did not require a “visa” to travel there.

    “There is no hurdle for me to go there. Can go to any part of the country, don’t need any type of visa for that. I am going,” Kumar said when asked for his comments on the threat by the Raj Thackeray-headed Maharashtra Navnirman Sena (MNS) to block the celebrations.

    ————

    Looks the lumpen MNS and its leader is trying to further flex its muscles, having done reasonably well in the recent Municipal elections. We have to wait and see how does the Maharashtra Government reacts.

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  • Anonymous

    Retail sourcing norms may be diluted

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Retail-sourcing-norms-may-be-diluted/articleshow/12602181.cms

    Excerpt

    For instance, during consultations in recent weeks, consultants for Nike have told the industry department officials that the sports goods and apparel major wanted to source from Indian firms, but they needed to invest in these entities to upgrade technology and scale up capacity. But pumping in money will result in a breach of the small scale cap of $1 million (around Rs 5 crore) investment in plant and machinery.

    ————

    A big question – Will Mamta allow and others join in shouting their opposition too?

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  • Anonymous

    Gopi, what say?

    Akhilesh transfers 1,000 bureaucrats in 24 days

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Akhilesh-transfers-1000-bureaucrats-in-24-days/articleshow/12597248.cms

    With more than 1,011 transfers in 24 days, the once powerful bureaucracy in Uttar Pradesh is running for cover these days.

    ————-

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    It is good if he is set to cleanse the system. it is bad if he is planning to raise money (I am told senior bureaucrats pay 1 lakh RS to reverse a transfer; so it is a cool 10 crore RS..)

    I hope he is doing it for the right cause. A young man wasted is bad for all of us.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    My information is that rates for clearing building plans have been “upped” in UP. In the earlier format, under Mayawati, your architect/engineer could sanction drawings by just submitting them in Greater Noida. Now a house owner has to pay about 15,000 per house as “fees.” and about 1,00,000 for a factory.

    UP under SP seems to know only one direction. Down Down down…

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  • Anonymous

    @ All my friends and enemies

    What would life be without you…

    So at 1.05 am on a new day after a action packed day thru Delhi, Gurgoan and meetings discussing … how to capture the sun in a nursing home to kill germs without opeining the window… and how to make sure that bathroom windows cannot be used by trolls to film MMS… I am ready to crash into bed … here is my salute to this blog…

    Jo bole so nihal

    Sat sri akal…

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    Ravi Reply:

    Sat sri akal/ਸਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਕਾਲ

    ਜਿਥੇ ਜਾਏ ਬਹੇ ਮੇਰਾ ਸਤ ਗੁਰੂ ਓਹੀ ਧਨ ਸੁਹਾਵਾ ਰਾਮ ਰਾਏ

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    Anonymous Reply:

    gnighttttttttttttt

    zzzzzzzzzzz

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  • Anonymous

    Odisha police to govt: We will boycott anti-Naxal ops if Maoists are released

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Odisha-police-to-govt-We-will-boycott-anti-Naxal-ops-if-Maoists-are-released/articleshow/12599307.cms

    Excerpt

    Odisha’s police force on Monday threatened to boycott anti-Naxal operations if hardcore Maoists are freed by the state government in a bid to end the twin hostage crisis which escalated with the abductors setting new demands before their deadline expires on Tuesday.

    Adding to the woes of the government, the Odisha Police Association(OPA) warned it will skip duties in Naxal affected areas while making it clear it will oppose “tooth and nail” any move to set free hardcore Maoists like Chenda Bhusanam alias Ghasi, an accused in the killing of at least 55 security personnel.

    ————-

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  • Anonymous

    Imran Khan slams Zardari, Bilawal Bhutto for India trip

    http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Imran-Khan-slams-Zardari-Bilawal-Bhutto-for-India-trip/934473/

    The sudden visit of President Asif Ali Zardari and his son Bilawal to India has invited ire from their political opponents in Pakistan with cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan questioning the timing of the tour, when the country was faced with a tragedy of the 135 soldiers missing in avalanche in Siachen glacier.

    ————

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    I think the symbolism of Zardari chosing to visit Ajmer Drgah should not be under-estimated.

    It is in reaction to that which has prompted the Salafis in Pakistan asking Imran to utter opposition to the visit.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_URSXATBEMZ7HUAB3OH36PLYWDM Ashok

    What use an erudite and charismatic cat that catches no mice ?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Deterence

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  • Dr Mishra

    I liked your blog Vinod, ironical that a Mr 10%, a jailbird and a womaniser has proved to be better for peace and for India than the highly educated Benazir who should have known better than to war-monger.

    Hollywood could not have written a better script -life is full of surprises

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    Dr Mishra Reply:

    everyone also welcome to Vir Sanghvi-s article where I posted this-
    “Dear Muhd Ahsan

    Welcome to this blog and thank you for your comments. Sadly, your type- peace loving and pro-India, constitute barely 5% of the Pakistani population. I speak on the strength of my 30 year interaction with Pakistani fellow docs in UK here, and on my daily interactions with the huge Pak community here in Yorkshire.

    Pl do stay on and contribute both here and on Vinod Sharma’s blog, where Rajiiv and Vijay Kumar above, my cyber friends, often comment.

    Can I finally say that I am sickened absolutely by the fawning we gave and continue to give to Mushy- butcher of Kargil.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Liked your remarks and glad to see you still commenting and interacting. Indian diplomacy towards Pakistan is unprofessional and full of non-sensical emotion, which the shrewd Musharrafs and Zardari’s make full use of. I have been away from this blog ( I like ‘tribune dot com dot pk’ as babloo more) Got to go.

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  • Anonymous

    There is very little substance in the blog . Its mostly recounting of anecdotal events and gossip.

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  • Anonymous

    Zardari knows his days are over. His PPP government will gace serious crisis when the Pak Supreme court rules on the contempt case against PM Gilani, within next 10 days. Cornered, he is seeking divine intervention.

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  • Pankaj#1

    Manohar;
    I will still love to debate with you about religion. But in the meanwhile, Sanjay has raised this baloon about Vijay, that he likes people, who speak against Islam and pakistan. I want to engage with him first. What is the big deal, OK, I am with Vijay, who hates pakistanis and people who like Islam, in present state as depicted by pakistani mullahs, and that is reality. Sanjay, let us discuss.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “…I am with Vijay, who hates pakistanis and people who like Islam,…”

    Well, what is there to debate ? If you agree. The debate happens if there is an disagreement.

    Anyway, we were discussing the concept of “enemy’enemy is a friend” in the context of the World Geo-politics.

    Vijay saw the point. So there is no further need for debate on that count.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    :) Of course I saw the point that you made an attempt to murder…

    but the court found you out !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The case was rested when you said “thanks”.

    I don’t drag for the heck of it.

    As I said, you will never see an attempt. The blade is potent and fast enough to execute. The mark is always permanent.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    sanjay;
    I am sorry, may be i misunderstood you. enemy’s enemy… Yes, that is geopolitical reality.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Pankaj

    Sanjay was trying some spin… well reverse spin is an art I enjoy…

    manohar was tryign shoot and scoot. Ultimately he had to scoot when I shoot :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I never try.

    Either I play or abstain. The game is always for the public to watch and enjoy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    playing with fake identity is the same as shoot and scoot.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The duel partner always knows whether I shoot and scoot or play to finish. You see “his gut feeling” can never be wrong.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You win, I lose, as I do not wish to waste ‘your’ precious time.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    U dont have to give up so easily. Keep trying… one day in an year… u may actually win ! :)

  • Anonymous

    Yeh Jo desh hai jiska naam hai Pakistan
    chand paison ke liye jahaan beche aur kharide jaate hai imaan

    har roz vahaan qatl hote hain mazhab ke naam pe
    kami hai vahaan insaniyat ki aur baste hain sab haiwan
    mat karo dosti us desh se jiska naam hai Pakistan.

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  • Anonymous

    Most ‘First Class’ students get technical seats, some become Doctors
    and some Engineers.

    * The ‘Second Class’ pass, and then get MBA, become Administrators and control the ‘First Class’.

    * The ‘Third Class’ pass, enter politics and
    Become Ministers and control both.

    * Last, but not the least,
    The ‘Failures’ join the underworld and
    control all the above.

    And those who do not attend any school, become
    Swamis and Gurus and everyone follows them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mark Twain – “I’ve never let my school interfere with my education”

    Expand that to “I’ve never let my school/college/university interfere with my education”

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  • Anonymous

    Keeping up the tradition of snooping, the home minister had all the tables at the luncheon to ZARDARI wired. Unofficial, unconfirmed and purely unreliable reports show parts of the “discussion” that took place between Bilawal Baby and Mr.Amul.

    Amul: My father was bombed by a Hindu terrorist, you know.
    Bilawal: people of people’s party say my mother too was bombed by suspected Islamists.

    Amul: I have told the Americans too, I do not believe that the LeT are such bad terrorists.
    Bill…: Yes, I agree with you. In Pakistan too, we believe that Hafiz Saeed is one of the most benign, harmless among terrorists. In fatc, my father is seriously thinking about re-designating him as a non-terrorist.

    Amul: our growth rate, until recently was 9%.
    Bill…: Actually ours is 8.5%, but you know, our bedard, behaya, bewaris aur besharam media made my father badnaam all over the world as Mr.10%. Which is why we are now taking only 8.5%. Sometimes, if the party is tough like LeT, we charge only 8%.

    Amul: Oh! I have no idea about those things. In fact, I don’t even know the number of my Swiss Bank accounts; Can you believe this?
    Bill: I can. In fact I do. Because till I turned 18, I too could access only one account in Leichtensten,which had a paltry balance of 500 milliion US dollars. But,believe me, Raul, I sympathise with you. If your mother was here today, I would have asked my father to speak to your mother to give you the number with at least 5 Billion blance.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Then they embraced and declared that they both are brothers who were
    ‘ separated at birth’ and are doing the same thing in their respective countries.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    “doing the same thing” ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Looting the country.

    Anonymous Reply:

    or doing ………….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Definately part of Kundan shah sequel of Jaane bhi do yaaro…

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  • Anonymous

    It’s same everywhere !

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/NorthAmerica/Nikki-Haley-asked-a-Sikh-question/Article1-838233.aspx

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In what way?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Education does not guarantee religious unbiasness. Even a Times journalist be such a dumb !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    Anyone who runs for a public office will be asked inconvenient
    questions. He/She has to face such situations which
    Ms. Haley is coming across now.

    Anonymous Reply:

    She handled it well.

    You perhaps missed that the journalist “repeated” similar questions in different occasions. There is a pattern to that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    We are not very different from them.
    Modi is stil being asked same questions
    on Gujarat riots, Anna Hazare is still being
    asked about punishment he meted out to
    alcholics 20 years ago, Sachin is always asked when he will retire,
    Digvijay gives same silly answers to
    the different questions he is asked,
    Manish Tiwari when asked about some failures
    of Congress will remind us of failures of BJP.
    Manmohan Singh, Sonia Gandhi and Rahul Gandhi do not allow themselves to be questioned.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You definitely surprised me.

    Time magazine editor Belinda Luscombe deliberately tried to “colour” the opinion with repeated “sikh” angle where there was none.

    How did Anna , Modi and Sachin fall in this jigsaw puzzle ?

    Or, Digvijay, ManMohan,Sonia,Rahul…………………….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    I was trying to show you the similarities in US and India.
    Asking Modi and Anna
    same questions again and again is trying to colour the opinion. I added few more names because -
    aadat se majboor hoon, that was just in jest – could
    not resist my self from putting
    my usual cynic opinion on others.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It’s not the “same” question that was asked to Nikki. I can understand the same question being asked again and again as the previous answer couldn’t have been satisfactory.

    In this case it was different.

    It was “similar loaded questions” in a particular direction that were deliberately thrown at her.

    I hope you see the difference.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ab aap sirf baal ki khaal nikaal rahe hain.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That’s not true.

    if a leading magazine like Time indulges in this game, it’s a matter of concern.

    Perhaps you missed the part “who asked these questions”.

    It was just not another journalist. It was Time magazine editor Belinda Luscombe.

    As they say the devil is in the details.

    Anonymous Reply:

    One interesting thing is that the two Indians are elected from the two most backward, racist states of the country – South Carolina and Louisiana.

    Rajeev or Binoy, will appreciate your input on how these Indians won when no black politician has ever won any statewide election in these states.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Sanjay

    I believe that Nikki was asked those questions because she has converted from Sikhism to Christianity.

    Conversions, as you know are a sensitive issues, particularly for the loosing religion. Journalists, will probe the reasons behind the conversion in order to trip the politician up in stating percieved flaws in their birth religion. The motive is party political even if the questions are social/religious.

    Furthermore, some journalists will use this conversion ploy to crowd out from her agenda real issues, as well as create an impression among the voters that if Nikki can change her religion then she can easily change her policies. In other words is she reliable?

    All the journalist is trying to do is to create doubt in public’s mind.

    I do not believe that there is any Sikhism specific angle here.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “… create an impression among the voters that if Nikki can change her religion then she can easily change her policies….”

    very dangerous indeed !

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    Ravi Reply:

    Dangerous indeed, but in US creating doubts in Voters mind is common place and often as subtle as a sledge hammer.

    Bigger question is why did she feel she had to change her religion in order to stand any chance of winning Republican Party support.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    ” Bigger question is why did she feel she had to change her religion in order to stand any chance of winning Republican Party support.”

    In a same way in our country why some parties think
    that by adopting appeasing policies, they will get votes? This playing religion card is a very dangerous
    game . Kabhi Kabhi apna ghar bhi jal jata hai.

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    Kabhi Kabhi nahin har waqt apna ghar bhi jal jata hai.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Sanjay

    I dont think anybody in politics should get tripped over by such questions.

    Even on this blog, some people survive by trying to trip me into a corner by saying RSS, BJP, MOdi, anti- Islam, anti Pakistan etc etc. Why should I trip, when I can smile and tell them the truth that I am just pro India…

    We Indians are a bit hypersensitive, SELECTIVELY. In this country, the crown prince and his gang created fake tears for dead terrorists without bothering about the hurt it caused to the brave police Inspector and also to the dead in Mumbai 26/11. HT generally supported that line.

    Yet a different standard is adopted for the US…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Nikki didn’t trip. She handled it very well.

    For more details, please refer to my replies to Mohan.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Do you actually know what the TRUTH is.

    How do you square your duty to truth and maintaining a pro India stance – come what may.

    What happens when TRUTH and Pro-India are in conflict.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ravi;
    Truth is supreme. Loving and serving India is no less important. Very tough question. very difficult to answer.

    Ravi Reply:

    Best way to serve and love India is to be truthful, warts and all.

  • Anonymous

    Not caste in stone
    Abhijit Banerjee

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/ColumnsOthers/Not-caste-in-stone/Article1-838023.aspx

    Narendra Modi was entirely right to try to keep the people of Gujarat away from Joseph Lelyveld’s wonderful new book Great Soul: Mahatma Gandhi and His Struggle With India. Not because of what it says about his sex life (or mostly the lack of it), but because it shines such a clear light on the distance between the nation Gandhi wanted us to be and the nation we were and, to a substantial extent, remain. For all our attempts to claim lineage from him, all the pictures beaming down on us in government offices and corporate lobbies, he was less the proud paterfamilias than the irascible uncle who always wanted us to be so much better than what we were prepared to be.

    Given that, I was struck by how little of what Lelyveld calls Gandhi’s struggles with India had to do with economics (but then I am no expert on Gandhi). He certainly cared a lot about his vision of a village-based economy for India but he never made a political cause out of it. Gandhi’s main battles, when they were not against the British, had to do with religious harmony, caste relations and to a lesser extent, our sanitary habits.

    ——–

    Read on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    ” Gandhi’s main battles, when they were not against the British, had to do with religious harmony, caste relations and to a lesser extent, our sanitary habits.”

    After 64 years after his death, we are still fighting same battles.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Only if he had not been assassinated, perhaps things may have been better.

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  • Anonymous

    Get moving on NCTC
    Ashok Bhan, a retired DGP, served in Jammu and Kashmir

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/get-moving-on-nctc/934558/0

    Cross-border terrorism has obliterated the traditional distinction between internal and external security. The constitutional division between aggression from outside to be dealt with by the Centre, and law and order by the states can’t be applied to dealing with terrorism of the cross-border variety.

    There is consensus on fighting terrorism effectively and, as the events of the last three decades have shown, the present apparatus is not good enough. Therefore, the need for a better institutional mechanism proposed in the form of the National Counter-Terrorism Centre (NCTC) cannot be overemphasised.

    ————

    Read on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    Does the NCTC cover fast trials, or will it continue the current slow process?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Very pertinent question. Otherwise we would be feeding thousands
    of Kasabs for years.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    See my post elsewhere above.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ….By law, NCTC conducts strategic operational planning for CT activities across the USG, integrating all instruments of national power, including diplomatic, financial, military, intelligence, homeland security, and law enforcement to ensure unity of effort. NCTC ensures effective integration of CT plans and synchronization of operations across more than 20 government departments and agencies engaged in the War on Terror, through a single and truly joint planning process.

    NCTC’s planning efforts include broad, strategic plans such as the landmark National Implementation Plan for the War on Terror (NIP). First approved by the President in June 2006 and then again in September 2008, the NIP is the USG’s comprehensive and evolving strategic plan to implement national CT priorities into concerted interagency action.

    NCTC also prepares far more granular, targeted action plans to ensure integration, coordination, and synchronization on key issues, such as countering violent extremism, terrorist use of the internet, terrorist use of weapons of mass destruction, and counter-options (after an attack). NCTC also leads Interagency Task Forces designed to analyze, monitor, and disrupt potential terrorist attacks.

    ——

    more at http://www.nctc.gov

    =========================

    The opposition was more political than anythingelse.
    The BJP provoked Mamta saying that a Secy level central bureaucrat can “bypass” her in her own state. It was to create distrust between the centre and states. BJP was successful in that.

    So much for calling oneself Nationalist !

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    Is it not the case that Prevention of Terroists attacks is the role of the central Government.

    Once an incident has taken place and the people involved have been arrested, then it should depend upon the CHARGE made against them. Some charges such as TERRORISM should be managed by the central Goverment and lesser charges of violence should be the duty of State Government.

    However, I believe that charges emnating out of a Riot should always be the job of central Government

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Yes the Prevention of Terroists attacks is the role of the central Government and their ‘performance’ in that role is exemplary.
    It is almost nine months and no terrorists have not been able
    to breach the security.

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    Ravi Reply:

    I will drink to that

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pakistan and its intelligence agencies are on defensive after the Osama blunder. Pakistan has become slightly wary of its own capability and suspicion of its own netwok. So there are less attempts. This is the real reason for the so called change of heart on Pakistan’s part.

    Ravi Reply:

    Sanjay.

    Not sure that your arguement applies equally to state and non-state actors. It has now been clear for a while that Pakistan Military and ISI have lost control over certain elements of their Jihadi Assets. These uncontrolled assets are more ant-India than those that are under control and will cause mayhem as and when they are able to. What these assets lack are resources, both financial and support.

    As far as “change of heart” is concerned, then it is not for the first time Pakistan has followed a dual policy. Hit them and Talk to them.

    Anonymous Reply:

    There is a very little difference between State and Non-state actors in Pakistan.

    The non-state actors are being “handled” by different arms of the Govt. That’s the only difference.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think that is the best defination of these stateless citizens.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Non state actors ? Now you are also speaking
    the language of Pakistan state. These so
    called non state actors are not Pakistan nationals ?

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    Not sure what you are accusing me off. Because the tone of your post is accusatory.

    Everyone knows that PURE Islamists, who align themselves with international organisations, are not always under the control of Pakistan Establishment. They receive finances as well as directions from the Middle East.

    They are more interested in establishing a medieval Islamic state in Pakistan and complete the task of converting Indian Hindus into Muslims. They are not very effective but they are there, and are also responsible for the sectarian strife in Pakistan.

    Anonymous Reply:

    May be I could have worded it differently but my intention was definitely not of
    accusing you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, whether you accuse him in so many words or not, he is an out and out apologist for Pakistan, like a couple of other trolls here.

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    Not sure what you are accusing me off. Because the tone of your post is accusatory.
    Everyone knows that PURE Islamists, who align themselves with international organisations, are not always under the control of Pakistan Establishment. They receive finances as well as directions from the Middle East. They are more interested in establishing a medieval Islamic state in Pakistan and complete the task of converting Indian Hindus into Muslims. They are not very effective but they are there, and are also responsible for the sectarian strife in Pakistan.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Why copy paste your post?
    I was not trying to accuse you
    of anything, as I said earlier
    that I could/should have worded it differently, then perhaps the tone of my post
    would have been different.

    Ravi Reply:

    The first one to appear here was the copy and paste. I did that because my original attempt at posting had failed to appear.

    Then, with no encoragement from me, the original one has now appeared.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “What these assets lack are resources, both financial and support.”

    I hope you are receiving your “dole” regularly and in time.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    I agree everything you have written except last sentence, change of heart on Pakistan’s part.
    I can never believe that. There is no change of heart
    only pretensions.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You missed my point. There is no real change in Pakistan’s heart. The subdued reaction is because of the above mentioned reasons. People think there is a change in Pakistan’s outlook which is not true.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    Kya problem hai bhai mere? I keep on missing your point.
    This time I am not going to miss.
    Yes it is not true that there is any
    change Pakistan’s outlook.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ha ha…relax.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Actually there is a change in OUTLOOK’s Pakistan.

    Anonymous Reply:

    All

    The point is that in the name of ‘federalism’ (that is not the real reason), NCTC is being opposed without giving it chance to know whether it is what the country needs.

    For example, suppose there is a terrorist attack (God forbid) in Odissa and the four culprits escape, one each to MP, Chhatisgarh, Tamil Nadu and Bihar, say. Knowing the level of ‘co-operation’ and ‘bonhomie’ between the various state police forces (you see it is a matter of federalism and jurisdiction – how dare you ….?), Odissa police will be running around in circles, trying to extract co-operation with police forces of the four states, by then culprits would just vanish in thin air. What is worse, to show ‘results’, they will arrest the ‘real’ culprits and publicly parade them with police band in attendance.

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~ A QUESTION FOR ALL DOMESTIC SERVANTS …. ~~~~~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————

    Do you guys really adore the meeting of two princes who will rule over the praja as planned by destiny?

    Did you guys swoon, crooning “mera rajkumar unke rajkumar se mila?

    Dont you say that we the janata of this country served their parents, grandparents, gr8 grandparents, it is probably written in our stars that we serve the princes’ as their naukars and then await their next generation so that our next generation can serve their next generation?

    Domestic servants do ‘charan washing..” Dont you guys feel that god has done us a favour by giving an opportunity to wash feet of the Rajkumars?

    Wah wah wah !!

    Kya sawaal hai…

    I await answers…. Whih I know the loyalists wont give… :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Had anybody crooned, you would have heard like many others.

    Perhaps you are listening to your own bathroom singing and waiting for a chorus outside. Delhi summer is already bad. Spending few extended hours in bathroom is not a bad idea after all ! By any chance, are you enslaven to your own thought ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am debating on dividing my time between the Siri Fort swimming pool and the Yamuna Stadium pool… both yet to open still !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What’s the fun of travelling to another pool while sweating in between ? That’s bad for health infact.

    Ravi Reply:

    How else would you know that he is rich.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If I have given that impression I must be poor in writing skills :)

    My grandad’s co passenger in the refugee train was named Adlakha… which he left behind in Pakistan.

    Aadha – lakha, today by no means qualifies for anything more than buying a rickshaw.

    Paisa aana jaana hai…
    kewal dil ko behelana hai..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Perhaps he meant you are rich in managing connections. After all how many dine with Amar Singh ! Amar Singh is known to have opened the gates for his friends.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Amar Singh never opened the doors to Biphasha and other beauties to me in the chance meeting.

    I hope others who relied on him for knowing the truth did not lose the fun element… !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Have some self-esteem, my friend !

    You want to approach Bipasha through Amar Singh !!

    Time for some Vipassana for you.

    Ravi Reply:

    I prefer UPASNA myself

    Anonymous Reply:

    i hope she is nice and good

    Anonymous Reply:

    Amar Singh got Bipasha to sing love songs to a “netaji”….can be heard in Amar singh tape saga.

    I am luckless troll whom Bipasha wont give a second glance…

    Sacha pyaar
    aur paise walon se pyaar… bahut antar hai barkhudaar…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please don’t hit bottles in middle of a working day !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Now I have to wonder as to how one acquires ’self-esteem’!

    Anonymous Reply:

    That’s a stinger !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Very simple. Dont go to the Congress office. Dont sing, “Nehru Gandy parivar hamaara mai baap…”

    Dont pray,” Allah seat de.. money de… congress de…”

    Your self esteem will remian intact :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Unofficial rumours” say that Vinod Sharma too dined with the same Amar Singh where some CD was “rumoured” to have changed hands.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Unofficially Vinod Sharma and Vijay are on the same table !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well if I am in office… its at siri fort… if I am at site its Yamuna…

    Ravi Reply:

    Do domestic servants swim better than their masters.

    Is their a difference in relative buoyancy of servant & master

    Anonymous Reply:

    The relatives of the master… daughter, grandson, gr8 grandson will always remain bouyant…. in India, Pakistan, Cuba, North Korea and saudia :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    buoyant and in the case of Robberji, flamboyant.

    Ravi Reply:

    How many of these visit this blog.

    Anonymous Reply:

    For answers, you will need to talk to a ‘vedic scientist’ in Rashtriya Scientific Sangh (RSS), Nagpur. ;-)

    Ravi Reply:

    :) Is this the society which also decides upon what is TRUTH and what not.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I have been told by very very ‘reliable’ sources that they have the ‘answers’ to all the questions and problems this world faces or would face in future.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I know the answer is to wait for Vadra’s children to take over one day … in the tradition of family worship. Is it not so?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I wish you had shown same obsession strengthening Advanis and Vajpayees rather than phobias for Gandhis and now Vadras !!!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well I agree they need to spread theri streght of not pushing their children ( for advani) to occupy powerful positions by ineritence.

    Sanjayji you should annonce this at the Congress office. “Look look… BJP does not suffer from the domestic servant mentality…”

  • Anonymous

    After disclosing who planted the story in the Indian Express ,although no names there , but sufficient hints there as to the identity , the Sunday Guardian is now out with another interesting story ” Five Questions for Nehchal Sandhu”. (Sandhu is Director IB ) a must read for all . Pallam Raju MOS Defence has already confirmed the Sunday Guardian Story. …Will the govt take action on this “Act of High Treason”… I dont think.so…. after all the culprit is their own.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    One may read MADHAV NALAPAT’s last few articles in the past to see the pattern and the web he is trying to create.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The Sunday Guardian is a paper edited by Mr M J Akbar , an Editor no less respected than many other respected names like Mr Vinod Sharma…. M D Nalapat if I recall correctly was also an Editor level journalist with the Times Of India. OK… some may find that the stories there are motivated .. but already the the top story of that paper has been found to be factually unquestionable. The other stories also , whereas some may find inconvenient ..but many will believe to be true .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Do you see a “slant” in the articles published there ? Perhaps you can describe that slant in one sentence :

    : ________________

    Anonymous Reply:

    I wonder why there was not a hoopla about Sandhu while there was so much uproar about CVG Jacob (the issues raised against him were quite trivial compared to the laundry list on Sandhu here)…i hope it is all BS written by a journalist and not true.. If true, I would have liked the army to move in as rumoured!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I meant CVC Thomas, not Jacob

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  • Anonymous

    Regarding the discussion on Nikki’s religion ….
    Religion is a key issue in US elections. And it actually is at a very granular level – “Christian” there means protestants (including baptists/evangelicals) and not other denominations like Catholics. John Kennedy was the first Catholic President; he had to “answer” a lot of tough questions, most of them involving the “papal” influence in the administration/white house if he was elected.

    In the last election, Obama had to ascertain that he was not a Muslim because of the constant chattering that he is a Muslim. In fact, 20% of the people still believe he is a Muslim (which means he will not get that 20% vote)

    Romney’s religion – Mormonism – is a big issue with many voters. In fact, he has not won any primary in the south which is a bastion of born again baptists. I have read articles that say America will accept a woman, Muslim 9in that order) as President before they vote for a mormon.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Infact I was surprised to know that USA was always more religion centric than Indians !

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  • Anonymous

    SIT gives “Clean Chit” to Mr. Modi…

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/gulbarg-society-massacre-narendra-modi-zakia-jafri-sit-report/1/183799.html

    Would the hate-campaign now come to an end?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rahul/DigVijay/NGO camps are not going to let it go as long as they believe the controversy will force him to restrict Gujrat as his arena..Modi has to carve out a national role, may be even bolt away from BJP

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Modi himself may not be keen to leave Gujrat in a hurry. Whatever opposition from the former policemen was seen in recent past shows that it may just spiral in future. Modi would be keen to move away only when he is assured of a safety net.But events like the surprise leak of telephone records would push him few notches back. Unexpected nasty surprises always push people back. He can not let a man of his trust rule in Gujarat. We have seen what a Gowda can do to a Yeddi.

    What are the chances that BJP will gain simple majority under Modi’s leadership? If not, what are the chances NDA will survive under Modi’s leadership ?

    Beside, the victims of the riot would be gaining enough courage to hit in next few years. [ Typically a person takes 8-12 years to make a comeback for revenge after being traumatised. ]

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon Sanjay

    Somehwere in your post you are hinting at some sort of “revenge.’

    I think the COngress needs to get out of its Modi Moid Rape rape phobia and stop being corrupt and start governing. They can learn efficent governance form Modi. Solely relying on hatred for Modi cannot cover 1,17600000 + 700000+ 130000 +1070000000

    Or do you think sayig Modi Modi all the time can do it?

    When I was in school there were two type of students. The doers and the complainers. The complainers would complain to the teacher all the time. 15 years down the line I still see them do the same…

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not hinting any revenge. I am just giving a plain psychoanalysis…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr Vidya Bhushan, Dr nagPal, Dr Mittal or sanjay Chugh? Or avdesh sharma?

    Anonymous Reply:

    They work in different domains.

    BTW, it was naive of Smt Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi to think they would not hit a road block….

    Even more naive of anybody to think that it always happens to others….

    Anonymous Reply:

    I threw a balloon as I work with two of them for a project…

    Brain mapping and gravity…

    Interesting field…

    Anonymous Reply:

    would you consider the reports of two forensic science laboratories as “Unexpected nasty surprises” in the fake CD case?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mr. Modi would continue to work within the BJP in the interest of the state. As far as a national role for him is concerned, it would inevitably come – the day isn’t too far.

    No individual is bigger than the team/party.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But Ishwar, shouldn’t BJP be able to “shine” in the midst of all these “golden” opportunities UPA is throwing out every day…Populace considers BJP as the other side of the coin; my innate feeling is that they conceive Gujrat’s accomplishments and Modi different from BJP. I am all for throwing Congress to the dustbin, but the alternative has to be significantly better, not just marginally.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, the populace is being forced/tricked into beleiving that BJP is no different from Congress. A big section of media works over time at it. It is also being told that Mr. Modi is the most communal person to have ever walked this earth, there is no difference between the Ram Sene and the BJP, etc. Thankfully, an increasing number of discerning audience/reader can see through it now.

    Can the party deliver better governance than Congress? Yes – the various state govts. are a proof. It is the best available (if not the best) alternative to Congress. The irony is that we have to fight the system from within the system. The only way to power is through ballot in a democracy and someone said – “Democracy is a form of government where people elect their own dictators”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Bolt away from the BJP, but where to?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Frankly I believe the Supreme court on this. Time to move on , compensate the victims, rebuild losses and see riots dont happen again.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    No way. One may have to wait another 10 years.

    Putting clean chit within quotes! Does it indicate something?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Some muslims were compensated not long back.

    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/mecca-blast-muslim-youth-to-get-compensation/210142-60-121.html

    Can Mr. Modi also claim compensation on similar lines?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    From whom?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwr the hysteria would only increase as they fear Modi can plaster their dunce prince 6 games to love anyday. And since most congresis are suffering from domestic servant (nauker) mentality, they would start screaming to protect their chotta sahab and malkin.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I love your choice of words for the worshippers. And I don’t live too far form your work place (Siri Fort) either. Would meet up withyou – when you have some time.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    cool! Surely some day soon…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, Ishwar,

    may the meeting take place at the earliest.

    Please do invite the chief censor, Sanjay Dhawan, so that you will have an opportunity to meet him in “flesh and blood”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like your sleep cycle over shot today !

    Anonymous Reply:

    why don’t you just meet up with Vijay Kumar and stop the ever increasing “rumour” of censoring?

    Anonymous Reply:

    There is no rumour. It’s spin of your disoriented thoughts.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I’ll post the truth about censoring on facebook… now this will be censored !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Surely will ! I thought there was a lot of sex stuff on the HT… maybe Sanjayji can start his scissors there first. If he wants … :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    @Ishwar

    Is this SIT report the last word? Is the court obliged to accept it with no questions asked and without hearing the other side?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mr Shah,

    The court is not supposed to have a mind of its own. It is supposed to go by the evidence and witness produced before it. The SIT was constituted by the Hon’ble SC of India and it has found no evidence against the CM. I rest my case.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    In this particular case SC should not look at the evidence
    but listen to what people like Teesta Setalvad are saying
    and should convict and hang Modi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    :-) :-) The elephant keeps walking while the dog(s) keeps barking.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Bipin Shah, Ishwar.

    The SC appointed the SIT, SIT submitted the report, SC asked Amicus to report on the report, ignored the amicus report, asked the trial court to decide the case on the basis of the SIT report.

    If the SIT rfeport was not fair, scrupulous and honest, the SC had every reason to throw it out of the window as biased, shoddy, incomplete, inadequate or for whatever other reason/s.

    The SC also asked the SIT to give the final report to the trial court, also giving the SIT the freedom to take the amicus report into account or not look at it at all.

    Now after all these things have happened, what option has the trial court but to base its judgement on the SIT report?

    Anonymous Reply:

    SIT is biased. Period.

    Signed by

    Teeasta Setalvad, Burkha Dutt, Rajdeep Sardesai.

    I would have added scores of more names but now
    I have more important thing to do.

    It’s daru time.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    How was the taste of ‘daaru’? Was it biased too?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Daru is the only thing which can never
    be biased. Same effect on everyone.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “INTERMISSION”

    Please enjoy our best Popcorn+Hotdog+Soda Combo.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay

    Even yesterday on TV channels, the Modi supporters were harping on the fact the SIT was appointed and monitored by the Supreme Court therefore giving the impression that the report cannot be challenged and has become the final gospel truth (*), conveniently forgetting that the court has not taken a view on it and that there is a possibility of being challenged by the aggrieved party(s). Then there is report of Advocate R Ramchandran, which is not in the public domain as yet, so one does not know its contents.

    * waise dil behlaane ke liye yeh khayaal achhaa hai.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @Ishwar

    As per my little understanding goes, that is not the way the process of justice works. The investigator’s word is not the final, the other side has to be heard and the final word rests with the courts. Otherwise why would the court order that a copy of the report be given to the complainant?

    Also, is the lower court supposed to take cognizance of the fact the SIT was constituted by apex court?

  • Anonymous

    V.K. Singh, Kejriwal may join politics

    The Indian Express story on the coup that never was has an interesting sidelight. The Hisar unit of the Army, which supposedly moved towards Delhi, is commanded by Lt. Gen. A.K. Singh, whose son is engaged to Army chief General V.K. Singh’s daughter. Meanwhile, there is buzz that V.K. Singh is toying with the idea of floating a political outfit with his country cousin Arvind Kejriwal. They plan to field candidates for the 2014 Lok Sabha elections. V.K. Singh will be their prime ministerial candidate.

    -Nora Chpra,

    ===========
    Vijay ! Do you see any connection ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay

    I saw the connection!! The COngress was scared of this all the time and created spin about the coup. Match point, set point game point …. the truht !

    It was scared that the Gen would reveal details about kickback takers so it created spin against the General . True !

    Arre the gen has full right to join politics… the same as you and me do. He does not have mom, pop, gradmom, , gr8 grandmom etc.

    Does it mean that the COngress should have used its domestic servants ( naukar and khanshamaas) in the media to tar the army about a coup?

    This is worse than the St Kitts story the spin team of Rajiv bhaiya created. Definately a fall in the standards of the spin department of the COngress…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    now you are definitely crossing the “lakshman rekha” drawn by Vinod Sharma.

    How can you describe a celebrated, venerated, exalted, PadmaBhooshaned editor as domestic servant?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If this has crossed the line… well I am prepared to get my head chopped …

    चाह नहीं मैं सुरबाला के
    गहनों में गूँथा जाऊँ

    चाह नहीं, प्रेमी-माला में
    बिंध प्यारी को ललचाऊँ

    चाह नहीं, सम्राटों के शव
    पर हे हरि, डाला जाऊँ

    चाह नहीं, देवों के सिर पर
    चढ़ूँ भाग्य पर इठलाऊँ

    मुझे तोड़ लेना वनमाली
    उस पथ पर देना तुम फेंक

    मातृभूमि पर शीश चढ़ाने
    जिस पर जावें वीर अनेक ।।

    I think all the people who wrote the fake coup stroy should read this poem

    Anonymous Reply:

    “…It was scared that the Gen would reveal details about kickback takers…”

    If the General does not reveal the scandals ( as you say ) then he was never fit for the post.

    As somebody rightly said he should have been sent on a forced leave.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon…

    Honesty ki sazaa forced leave?

    Govind Nihalini… the script of ardh satya 2 is ready…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Is this another of your “unofficial rumour” or just rumour mongering?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    This unofficial rumour is from one of those newspapers frequently being quoted here.

    For all official rumours, please turn to Vijay.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well I am too small a guy…

    all rumours here are official…. as the truth is actually unofficial.. !

    Decipher this … while I go to watch the IPL Chennai superkings delhi match…

  • Anonymous

    NYT disc about poverty elimination pgm in India..Good perspectives.

    http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/10/who-deserves-welfare-in-india/

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    A good article. Here writer advocates universal distribution of cheap food grain
    instead of to only people who are holding BPL cards. It is a open secret
    that almost everybody has to bribe babus to get these cards. Many affluent
    families also carry these cards and have access to the subsidized food grain
    of government.

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  • Anonymous

    Yesterday Gujarat court convicted 23 people in Ode killings and that decision was hailed by many people who believe in Modi’s guilt in Gujarat riots. Today supreme
    court appointed SIT has given clean chit to Modi and same people are disappointed
    at this decision. Earlier Gujarat courts were considered biased by them and now
    will they say same about Supreme court of India?
    If the decision is as per your liking of the case then the courts are fair if not then
    courts are biased. Heads I win tails you lose.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Shri Modi is a colossus among pygmies of India, a Yudhishtira among the corrupt and immoral politicians (of all parties) ruining the country..
    The sooner he is the PM of India, the better for its populace.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Among the current leaders of our country he along with Jaya Lalitha
    and Nitish Kumar are the best bets for the future of India.
    Let us see how he performs in forth coming elections at the end of this
    year in Gujarat. BJP is also waiting for this before announcing him
    as a PM candidate.

    [Reply]

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Chit bhi meri, Pat bhi meri aur Khada mere Baap ka.

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  • Anonymous

    Though not a right forum, I could not resist sharing with friends here :

    http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/true-life/the-man-who-wore-a-sanitary-napkin

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Quite uplifting…

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    I salute this gentleman Mr. Muruganantham. What a determination this man have.
    And he is not doing this for money. What a man.

    Thanks for the link.

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  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    Tariq PURI, the Pakistani trade delegation chief, Puri is a Hindu surname. There are hundreds of surnames, which are still being used by Pakistanis. But, ignorants amongst them say we are Arabs. It is this mind set, which require surgery. and rest of Puris, bajwas, Rathods and Rajputs, will be disabused slowly about their differentness/ superiority. With that improved mindset, I hope, they will be more amenable to dignified coexistense.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Pankaj

    Whilst I am aware that there are a certain types of Pakistani’s who have fabricating for themselves a false history and an imaginative lineage, Puris, Sethi’s Bajwas, etc are not among them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    Many families have retained their family/tribal names even after conversion to Islam. These names are common among Sikhs, Hindus and Muslims.

    It happens in India too, many who converted to Christianity / Islam have chosen to retain their family surnames. Do you recall a hockey player – Michael Kindo – 1972 Olympian and 1975 World Cup member – a full back, who used to turn out for Signals, Jullundur – a team to reckon with in 70s?

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    For sure.

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  • Anonymous

    Ravinder Singh

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravinder_Singh_%28general%29

    Major-General (MG) Ravinder Singh s/o Harchand Singh (born 1965) is the current Chief of the Singapore Army, having replaced the retiring Chan Chun Sing on 25 March 2011.

    ————-

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  • Anonymous

    Today’s panel discussions on TV were the same – the same old accusations, excuses and justifications. It all boiled down to

    Modi, Modi, Shame, Shame.
    Modi, Modi, Clean, Clean.

    —————–

    We need a break.

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  • Anonymous

    Telecom-policy czars delete crucial line, fool PM and nation.

    Very interesting article on how frauds are committed at higher level.

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/randomaccess/entry/telecom-policy-czars-delete-crucial-line-fool-pm-and-nation

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  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    Vectra chief made 250 crores on truck deal. What?? The only way, one can make that kind of money is either by supplying sub standard trucks or inflating the invoice. General had some hint, could not stand upto the power that be, deal went through and people made money in hundreds of crores.
    Now the powerful Lobby of corrupts, a- Tetra trucks were fine, DRDO, ( government organization) b- Media( Quasi government) Politicians are blameless, C media(?) Genereal wanted a coup, General will be joining politics, ha ha.. Shame all around.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The CBI has estimated that the purchase of ” 5,000 ” Tatra all-terrain trucks for the army since “1997″.

    -

    Why else an entrepreneur do business?

    These are not garbage trucks. These are all terrain specialised High tech trucks.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Sanjay;
    If you read the full article, it is said there that these trucks were procured against the norms of defense purchase procedure, Bharat Earth Movers also did not purchase directly from manufactureres. The axel, which was a kind of swinging axel, was being manufactured by another Chez. company, no quotes were taken from that company. In another related article in Indian express,, says that no servicing facilities were established in India. So all this has been going on since 1997 and every body was sleeping on it. Why? whose interest was involved that this thing continued since so long. That is my objection and then, theekara was bust on general’s head.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BEML ( PSU ) manufactured ( more than 60% indianised ) and supplied trucks to army, like HAL supplies aircrafts of french/British origin.

    Vectra acquired these companies, like Laxmi mittal acquired many steel companies all over the World.

    General used Ural Trucks without authorization while he was posted in East. The whole controversy started with creating opportunity for URAL trucks.

    How many letters the Genral had written to previous army chiefs about Tatra ? Or, he was waiting to be the army chief to make his observations known? Infact, he just did that ! Within few weeks of his getting charges he cancelled the contract of Tatra.

    Did the general come to Army on a deputation?

    Or, was he serving for long?

    I would love to know how many letters of objections and qualified “user reports” he had sent to the former chiefs. A army chief suddenly does not wake up to the quality of the trucks when the file comes to him for “renewal”. The quality has been ratified by even Israelis and Americans. The buy these trucks for much higher prices. DRDO uses these trucks for Agni Missiles.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    We should give credit to CBI for being efficient at least in finding the fault in 24 hours.
    It is another matter that even in 24 years they will not be able to find the culprit.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good. You got the lead – the message I left half finished.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ONLY India will buy defence stuff from Czech!

    Anonymous Reply:

    What is wrong with Czech products? Skoda cars is another instance. Tatra is a 162 year old company.

    Jaroslav Heyrovský (1890–1967), first Czech Nobel Prize laureate, awarded the prize in 1959 for pioneering research in polarography and electroanalytical chemistry.

    Otto Wichterle (1913–1998) and Drahoslav Lím (1925–2003), Czech chemists responsible for the invention of the modern contact lens.

    Stanislav Brebera (* 1925), inventor of the plastic explosive Semtex.

    Antonín Holý (* 1936), scientist and chemist, in 2009 was involved in the creation of the most effective drug in the treatment of AIDS.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vectra Group website

    http://www.vectragroup.com/index.asp

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  • Anonymous

    article about acid attacks in Pakistan. The lady about whom an Oscar winning movie was made, committed suicide.. This sort of attack seems to be common among the feudal landlords of Punjab region ..seems they get away with it.. What makes this particular case surprising is that the perpetrator is the cousin of Rabbina Khar, the foreign minister of Pakistan. Looks like it was hush hush years ago when it happened; but her suicide seems to have galvanized the country. MAY be finally people are awakening…
    Just see her face before the attack and after…how true is the statement man is an animal.. actually it is an insult to animals.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/10/world/asia/hope-in-pakistan-for-curbing-acid-attacks.html

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    test

    [Reply]

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Horrible is a mild word here.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    Heart wrenching story. Are they waking up? I doubt, animals only wake up to look for another prey.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Terrible indeed.

    Obviously, it is not a class issue. The powerful man from the feudal family married this commoner, especially in their circles lower than a commoner, she being a club dance girl.

    Poor people get punished, rich people walk away, with their kith and kin continuing to rule!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Horrid indeed.

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  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    HT lauding Modi but also saying that he should do more for riot victims’ settlement across the religious divide and assuage their hurt feelings and hearth.
    Can not agree more.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right. There are no signs of it though.

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  • Pankaj#1

    Shahrukh may play the role of Dhyanchand in a planned biopic on him.
    Government is considering, seriously- Bharat Ratna award for him.
    Dhyan chand was one man Army.
    Cockels of my heart feeling that cosy warmth.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sometime in 1998/99, the NDA government took a decision not confer Bharat Ratna posthumously, because there was a clamour for this award by and all sundry to honour just about everybody.

    So it may not be so. Similarly a very large number of people (including me) feel that Mohammad Rafi too deserves it.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    I oppose Bharat Ratna for Mohammad Rafi. he was not worth it.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    To each his own.

    All the great souls who are no more amongst us will not be honoured thus.

  • Pankaj#1

    Chishti should be repatriated to Pakistan without delay. I am all for it.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    Which Chisti?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr. Khalil Chisti who is in a jail in Ajmer since many years.
    A Pakistani national who is sentenced to life imprisonment.

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    Ravi Reply:

    I am sure he would like to be repatriated. Is that not so.

    I thought Pankaj was suggesting the other Chisti who has been interned in Ajmer for centuries.

    Anonymous Reply:

    On Monday he was granted a bail.
    Effect of Zaradari visit.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Zardari ke aane mein zaraaaaaa si deri hui.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That Chisti will not leave Ajmer.

    Ravi Reply:

    But it might be a good idea if he did.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Trying to provoke me ?

    Ravi Reply:

    Will I do that!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    No I don’t think so but there is always that
    itch. I sometimes do
    that.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ravi-Ravi;
    You are an oversensitive soul. Ofcourse- I was talking about Dr. Chishti.

    Anonymous Reply:

    actually Teesta should be repatriated.

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  • Anonymous

    Good morning guys.

    An observation. The law of reverse dynamics.

    When a man becomes rich, he becomes naughty. But when a woman becomes
    naughty, she becomes rich.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Or she gets murdered.

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  • Anonymous

    Where is Dr Shantanu these days? I miss his “solutions for everything..”

    Did he fall for a Satyavathi? .

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Fall for Satyavathi ? He is not that old, I believe he is somewhere in
    his thirties. By the way even I am missing him.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    satyavathi was a young woman …(Shantanu was old; you are right)
    I think he must have fallen for a blonde Satyavathi…

    or he may be in kolkotta advising Mamta Ban her Ji

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have a feeling that he finally became and anglo saxon using Micheal jackson’s skin bleach and is called Dr Santa Jack.

    I also miss him for as duel .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan, for reasons unknown, became Cingulate
    Often, Vinod Sharma found him difficult to regulate

    Also for reasons unknown, he hates Indians
    But loves people, who are fair, like Red Indians.

    Again, for reasons unknown, Shan is absent from the blog
    And if this aank-micholi continues, we may forget how to flog.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dont be too surprised… he may just jump in from the roof…

    Dr Santa jack would be a real spoof.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Even Ashish is missing-in-action or AWOL.

    Both being Bengalis, has Mamtadi has anything to do with they not being here? ;-)

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  • Anonymous

    Yesterday, a NDTV correspondent made an interesting point.

    The UPA is run by GOM – Group of Ministers.
    The BJP is run by GOP – Group of Prime Ministers.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Is UPA really running ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That’s the good thing. Everything is running smoothly despite few roadblocks. It’s business as usual approach of UPA that gets on the opposition’s nerves. The balloon of euphoria bursts every now and then for the opposition. Have you forgotten Advani’s statement ? We need a V P Singh to topple this Govt. What else could be the sign of an ….. opposition ?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Sanjay

    What is the difference between Parliamentary Opposition and street agitation.

    We have over supply of one and not enoough of the other.

    Is that because we have available in abundance street hudlums ready to agitate at the drop of a black topi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Come to think of it, we are really missing those dignified parliamentary opposition !

    [ Interestingly, today one needs tons of money for street agitations and money is in good supply these days ! ]

    Ravi Reply:

    Is this because the R E A L opposition is NOT committed to our Parliamentary System but is a master of street politics.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The biggest achievement for the BJP is to bring everything to the street level.

    Ravi Reply:

    Funny I thought it was already down to gutter level

    Anonymous Reply:

    appropriately, being a resident of gutter, you can’t think beyond it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    Yes, Money is in good supply. From 2G, CWG, Adarsh and latest from Tetra.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Those are for personal consumption. The one I was talking about is for the collective consumption. These days the collective consumption is in vogue. People even consume porn in groups / collectively !!

    Anonymous Reply:

    “What is the difference between Parliamentary Opposition and street agitation”.

    A similar poser – what is the difference between street agitator and a Chief Minister? None, if you ask Derek O’Brien.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That applies to the BJP too.

    Is it really running as a party and as an opposition?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    As a opposition I am not happy with style of BJP functioning.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If they do not know how to work as an opposition, what hope – they as the ruling party? Remember there is no Vajpayee as the PM.

  • Anonymous

    Sanjay,

    Let me try to decipher what you have written. Warn me as you usually do if I
    ‘ miss your point ‘. Personal consumption v/s collective consumption.
    Personal will be shared by very very few at the top only.
    Collective is shared by all from top to bottom .

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Personal consumption is driven by a personal greed and mostly localised.
    The collective consumption is driven by a consensual approach with a well coordinated motive-outcome realisation strategy.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    You mean just like a RIOT is.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That could be a little extreme. When the Chintan baithak moves to 5 star hotels with the help of tent wallas or a party depends on mining mafias for running the party elections, then it’s more of collective consumption. Ofcourse, I talked of the latest trend of consuming porn in groups.

    Anonymous Reply:

    a) In an ideal world, the party should be funded by telecom scam money and the loot hoarded in Swiss accounts.

    b) Why not rape and kill rather than watch porn

    Anonymous Reply:

    a) In real world, dig your motherland in darkness of the night, sell through pakistanis and then come fight elections with that money shouting Bharat Mata ki jai !

    b) That would be a good advice for the porn watchers for their logical upward mobility.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That’s the best you could come up with purebreed. Typical of your tribe!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good enough for you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    typical Vinodji-ish response.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You surely know how to make people laugh !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, Shenoy. I have been here long enough to sense that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    and whatb is the good advice for the rapist ministers of poor nurses?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Smuggle them out of the country for money !

    Anonymous Reply:

    b) Didn’t that happen before in 2002 and move on?

    PS: Should I look forward to you invoking 1984 as a justification, just like Ravi Shankar Prasad, Smriti Irani & Co. were doing so last night on TV?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, it did happen in 2002 – with Teesta as the sole witness. I loved to watch her on telly yesterday – a frustrated and exposed hate campaigner – working on sponsored money from Switzerland.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I agree, she was pathetic. Equally or more pathetic were Mr. Oza and Smriti Irani – also shouting at the top of their voices. I am wondering as whose sponsored money they were working with. Any ideas?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Did you miss the reply for a) ?

    a) Before 2002, the telecom scam money were all parked with the tent wallas. Praveen has no clue now. Thanks to him, many people never had to return the money to the rightful owner. Now the son is making money through the reality shows if he has time left after sniffing some powder.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This gentleman can be compared to your Chhote sarkar – both powder fans!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    No.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I know — ND Tewari was also a group with three pretty maids all in in the guverners bed….. and Maderna,was also in group “enjoyment’ sessions….

    In ND Tewari’s case we the tax payers paid for his guard, his bed sheets, his governer’s house, his maids’ salaries….the AC of his conjugal room…. and maybe even the condom…

    Arre baba… we are supposed to be praja. Raja ki sewa karna hamara karm hai na…

    Anonymous Reply:

    You always see in “reverse” !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Congressiyon ke “peeche” wale karm se aage ki predictions aasan ho jaati hai…

    Anonymous Reply:

    No comment on your peeche – aage obsession !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    these NDT porn is all fake. Do not see them.

    what Vinodji gets (from the most genuine source) is only genuine CDs.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Since ND Tewari was actually doing the video and Maderna was actually”doing’ the video they cannot be hauled up for porn… only the watchers will be…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    2G only Raja and Kanimozi. No one else was involved or had any
    clue to what was happening?
    CWG Only Kalmadi alone. Everyone else were clueless?
    My respect for these people have suddenly increased manifold that
    they can do this without anyone getting aware of anything. Bravo.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, how many months have passed since the time the Supreme Court took over the direct supervision of the cases ?

    Would you like throw a poser at the court ?

    Let’s see what are real deviations these people charged with so far ?

    I thought Vijay’s 1,76 Lakh Crores + 80,000 Crores would just tumble out in 7 days ! I regret my poor judgement.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjayji

    Since u r close to the COngress office… just get the thick pillows which they use during heil Sonia Mata sessions, out for us poor bloggers.

    My information is part of the 1070000000 +176000000
    +70000000 crores is hidden right there..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Are you sure not at the site where you are using JCB’s ? I thought you were eating shakakandi at the site in this dusty summer with anticipation of that gold mine !

    Anonymous Reply:

    just back in from site…at site office computer…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Don’ worry about the deviation. Even if it is by 90%, we are still talking about a figure which is mind-boggling to ordinary honest tax-payers who reposed their faith in this shameless alliance.

    So, the point you are trying to make is?

    Anonymous Reply:

    These boot-licking trolls are not naives.

    They pretend to be one and interstingly expect us to be like them. For them, if a cabinet minister is in jail, reports of scam emerge every other day, crucial appointments quashed by courts, ever increasing price and no visible change in infrastructure is business as usual. The blame should lie with the opposition not being dignified enough.

    Anonymous Reply:

    MOhan

    Bhaiyya… Bofors was also alone. Somebody senior on this blog once told us Rajiv has probably used the money for funding the Indian army’s operations in Lanka through the Bofors kickbacks for the good fo India…. all alone.

    Taken the kickbacks, deposited in swiss banks, funded the army, got their weapons, and also funded the COngress elections… all alone.

    Very honest person. He did not even keep one single kota paisa.

    Arrre baba, he did not want to ask corporates for donations as Indian corporates ask for favours na. So all alone everything was done for good of India and kickbacks were taken TO REMOVE CORRUPTION IN INDIA !!

    Very nice….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Just use the RTI and ask Vajpayee under oath. You will never have to worry too much.

  • Anonymous

    Yesterday I had provided link about new a telecom policy. Note how a crucial line
    has been removed from the document . Even PM’s instructions have been ignored.
    Read how fraud starts at planning stage itself.

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/randomaccess/entry/telecom-policy-czars-delete-crucial-line-fool-pm-and-nation

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  • Anonymous

    A friend from US sent me these excerpts from “No One’s World: The West, the Rising Rest, and the Coming Global Turn” by Charles Kupchan, a Professor at George Town Univ and a Fellow at the Council of Foreign Relations:

    “The most potent challenge to America’s dominance comes not from the continuing redistribution of global power, but from a subtler change: the new forms of governance and capitalism being forged by China and other rising nations”
    ———————————————————————————————

    “The democratic, secular, and free market model that has become synonymous with the era of Western primacy is being challenged by state capitalism in China, Russia and the Persian Gulf Sheikhdoms. Political Islam is rising in step with democracy across the Middle East. And left wing populism is taking hold from India to Brazil.”
    ……………………………………………………………….
    “As this century unfolds, sustaining American power will be the easy part. The hard part will be adjusting to the loss of America’s ideological dominance and fashioning consensus and compromise in an increasingly diverse and unwieldy world”

    “In today’s fast and furious global economy, the control affected by state capitalism has its distinct advantages, which is precisely why Russia, Vietnam and others are following China’s lead”

    “Rising democracies are also following their own paths on foreign policy, foiling America’s efforts to turn India into a strategic partner. New Delhi is at odds with Washington on issues ranging from Afghanistan to climate change, and it is deepening commercial ties with Iran just as America is tightening sanctions. Standing up to America still holds cachet in India and Brazil, one reason New Delhi and Brasilia line up with Washington less than 25 percent of the time at the United Nations”.

    “But if India and Brazil are any indication, even rising powers that are stable democracies will chart their own courses, expediting the arrival of a world that no longer plays by Western rules”

    “This century, in contrast, will be the first time in history in which multiple versions of order and modernity coexist in an interconnected world; no longer will the West anchor globalization”

    “With that in mind, Washington should acknowledge that America’s brand of capitalism and secular democracy must now compete in the marketplace of ideas. To be sure, even as it adopts a more pluralistic approach, the United States should defend not just its interests, but also its values”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Wasn’t an IndianAmerican Journalist who said things to that effect through a series of articles ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    No. it was first said by Mahesh Mumbaikar. The American journo only picked it up and made it into a series.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    its an evolving world. China basically made it huge by using capitalism– American free market policies to send its products to US, Europe and rest of the world. In case those countries followed Chinese policies of closing trade, then CHina would have never made it.

    In the end if more countries develop public sectors and then the PSU’s want the internal markets to be closed to cheaper imports– the Chinese model of subsidies will fail.

    Still we can learn a lot from CHina on how to punish the corrupt. And also to create infrastructure for better, efficient production.:

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Will US acknowledge that their brand of capitalism and secular democracy must
    compete in market place ? Normal human nature will not accept this loss of power.
    They will ‘fight’ to remain on top, only question is till how long they will be able
    to fight to stay on top.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan-

    The author is alluding to the same thing – that the American free market Western style democracy which has been the dominant idea is being replaced by different other ideas. That America, while defending its values, should allow these other forms, and not work against it…..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    In a funny way the huge debt of US is working in their favour. They need money
    to cover this debt and the countries with huge surpluses like China and Japan
    have no other option to buy US bonds. There is no other country in the world
    which can absorb so much money.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    Democracy and free trade cannot be oxymoron. Other systems of governance will not work in the long run (Soviet Union is an example). With more countries becoming democratic and allowing free trade are less likely to follow dictats of the self-appointed policemen of the world – China is desperately trying to be one

    Among the ‘powerful’ countries, the only oddball is China and will continue to standout as a sore thumb. Russia is still learning to be democratic (after over 60 years of party dictatorship). The remarkable fact is that they chose to be democratic after the collapse of the Soviet Union).

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  • Anonymous

    Vinodji,

    you talk so much about democracy in India, in Pakistan and rest of the world.

    But in your own blog, you resort to the cheap gimmick of censoring inconvenient posts from defence-less bloggers. Today, several of my posts have been slaughtered.

    Can you be a little more democratic? Or is it beyond you?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Is there democracy in Congress party? You should not expect that here too.

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  • Anonymous

    What is the similarity between a government office and Viagra?

    In both cases 4-5 minutes ke Kaam ke liye ek ghanta khada hona parta hai.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    You are too generous! Show me a govt office that works even for 5 minutes!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    All states wherever UPA is ruling, things run smoothly.
    I am not saying this, Sanjay little while ago claimed this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Now Gopi missed your point ! Or, did you?

    That 4-5 minute of work get “extended” with both Viagra and at the Govt. offices.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    Due to my limited vocabulary I am not able to translate some jokes in English
    properly, that is why sometimes I use Hindi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The finest collection, I must say.

    Anonymous Reply:

    100% agree.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    he must be living in New Delhi, Schezhuan province, China..

    Anonymous Reply:

    That province was always a rebel. My new Delhi is calm these days. Only cross border runs from Noida and Gurgaon are the problem. Ask Vijay ! He does more cross border runs everyday than anybodyelse. God knows what he does ferrying across the borders ! Never trust Amar Singh’s friends.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    The way you keep on bringing up Vijay, I wonder whether you dream of Vijay also.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I don’t day dream.

    Anonymous Reply:

    because their ‘jai ho’ song flopped spectacularly, now he is dreaming of ‘Vijay Ho’.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am carrying amar singh CD’s from border to border…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Stand for one hour! Where? In a queue? ;-)

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  • Anonymous

    After warning India, China asks Russia to stay away from South China Sea

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/After-warning-India-China-asks-Russia-to-stay-away-from-South-China-Sea/articleshow/12611993.cms

    India has now got company of another country, Russia, in being the target of Chinese ire over the South China Sea controversy. China on Tuesday hit out against the Russian decision to explore for oil in sea areas that Beijing claims to be its own.

    China has been vehemently opposed to ONGC Videsh Limited exploring for oil in the sea area along with a Vietnamese company. A Russian company has now joined the exploration work in the area.

    ———–

    What will China do now? What if an American company too joins in, then what?

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    How about China moving in karakoram and Northern kashmir apart from aksai chin. they are disputed territories as well. China and pakis thought India as a weak country and took liberty with it. now, a resurgent india with world support should pay in the same coin, what do you say, no i am a peacenik, but tell china, that leave tibet, do not roam in Northern Kashmir and then only say that South China is a disputed territory and outsiders should not come there.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The recent assertion on the part of India is quite interesting. I would love to see if India has some real long term game plan for the region or it’s just a mild posturing.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj/Manohar,

    I doubt whether they will move in anywhere. They will just issue warnings believing
    that other countries would not mess with them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    IMO, China will use the disputed areas as bargaining chips. Their hold over Tibet is full of question marks already, therefore adventure in these areas will raise further questions. They also have lot of problems with its Western Provinces – they are so different in terms of languages, culture, religion, food, etc. It cannot forcibly hold them for ever. Democracy is the answer.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj, Sanjay, Mohan, Ravi and Gopi

    Some more

    Chinese army to help discipline party?

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/chinese-army-to-help-discipline-party/articleshow/12619548.cms

    The PLA Daily – Chinese People’s Liberation Army newspaper – on Tuesday suggested that the ruling Communist Party’s military linked members could step in to ensure discipline in the party “if some members try to stray from the line”.

    A commentary in the newspaper indicated that the army brass is worried about differences within the party ahead of the scheduled leadership change later this year while reminding its troops of the “party’s absolute leadership” over the army.

    ————

    1) Have things come to such a pass?

    Notice, how the top leadership issues warnings (via a newspaper) to members, who do not stand in line and to suppress dissent.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When people are little comfortable, they start looking for respectability. Perhaps the communism is not able to provide that. Everybody is not comfortable with a unique idea.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Sanjay

    Sir, you talked about aage peeche ki baat. Strangely my favourite FAMILY newspaper also talks about the same subject and has explicit photographs also. OF aage… and talks about peeche…

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/Entertainment/Music/Nude-pics-of-John-Lennon-and-Yoko-Ono-up-for-auction/Article1-838878.aspx

    I hope all the people reading the paper with the photgraph wont be hauled up for watching porn…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I didn’t, you did.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Okkkk

    Arre bhaiya…
    Yoko and john posed…
    HT exposed

    How can Vijay be deposed?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In a book store, which corner do you rush to first ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ok… HT is simply following the dictum that sex sells !

    No wonder it went gaga over a non existent por scam in Gujarat. Like Mahes Bhatt making out films with sunny Leone…

    HT should remember its glorious assosciation with Mahtma gandhi

    Anonymous Reply:

    Bull in a china shop ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Bikini is a dress where 90% of a womans body is exposed.
    And the amazing fact is that men are so decent that……….they look only at that covered 10%Area only………!!!!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    with eyes open

  • Anonymous

    Some comments on the TV debates yesterday.

    Tavleen Singh has indicated that there will be never be a riot/genocide on the 2002 and 1984 scale, because of the television and one televised horror show was enough. Should we thank someone? She also put forth a suggestion that there should some sort of Truth & Reconciliation Commission for Gujarat.

    In Ashok Malik’s assessment, with the SIT’s clean chit Narendra Modi has reached step 3 (on the scale of 10) in his march towards Delhi. A colossal among pygmies takes 10 years to traverse 3 steps! It remains to be seen how much more time it will take to climb the remaining 7.

    He also said that Modi has to address the issue of being coalition-builder (political, but more important social). Has he the wherewithal and would he be willing?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Modi has taken 3rd step is an opinion of one person. Some one might say
    that he has taken a step backward or some one will claim that his next
    step would be PM seat. Different people different perception. IMO, election
    in Gujarat at the end of year are important. If he is able to get another landslide
    than BJP will nominate him as a PM candidate. We have to wait and watch.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    I do not think the assembly elections later in the year will have any bearing – he is going to win it – at worse with little less number of seats, but still a majority. If he loses (highly unlikely), then that will be the end of his New Delhi ambitions.

    Having said, remember he is aiming to be the Prime Minister of India and not of Gujarat. Hence, we have to see a countrywide acceptability – not many (in fact most) political parties are willing to do business with the BJP with him at the helm. That is where a persona like Vajpayee is required and not polarsing one like Modi.

    That one person – Ashok Malik – is inclined towards the BJP (perfectly acceptable) and yet like Swapan Dasgupta does not mince words. Yes, it his view re:3rd step. In your assessment, on which step does he stand?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Short of garlanding ceremony, he is there.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That hallucination is restricted to his die-hard fans and not to the man himself.

    Ravi Reply:

    Did you mean dyed saffron fans

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    He has not yet reached the last step according to me
    and I have a doubt whether this time he will get as many
    seats as last time.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    If I were betting in Las Vegas, I will bet 70% probability that either Shri Modi or Shrimathi jayalaitha will be the next PM, and 30% on Akhilesh.

    Modi has to be more cunning; he should hire an excellent PR group to get the media behind him away from the consistently losing, n egative blank Yuvraj. Fun will start after the next set of state elections.

    I wish we had a presidential system where all fight in the public arena for the spot….It also has another big advantage; corruption will be difficult; and even if there is , there will be only very few participating in the loot (governors and President, no riffraff ministers)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    The domestic servants and naukers of the khandaan will create a lot of spin in the media to get theri beloved chotta malik and badi malkin onto the house seat…

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    Ravi Reply:

    What is the difference between Domestic Servants and Naukers.

    Which of the two wear tait lungoat.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dont mind… you can rescue yourself from naukership by freeing your mind from serfdom and khandaan shoe polishing…

    By “You” I meant all ..

    Ravi Reply:

    What in your opinion is the difference between serfdom of the Khandaan and blind devotion to Yaar Yess Yess

    Anonymous Reply:

    Allow me.
    In the first case, it is a cardinal sin (and one will burn in hell)

    In the second it is a lifetime membership of a tropical resort with 72 virgins in attendance and ……… (you can use your own imagination and fill in the blanks). Some guys are just born lucky.

    Ravi Reply:

    I am past that stage of my life where 72 virgins would make any difference.

    Reminds me of an old film in which Orson Wells enjoys….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    I think we should forget that any regional leader with maximum of 40 odd seats will become the Prime Minister, unless there is a coalition without the Congress or the BJP. These two parties would insist (being the largest parties) that they have a right over the PM’s chair. So let us rule out Jayalalitha and Akhilesh.

    Re: Modi – See my reply to Mohan. He has mountains to climb and not going to be easy.

    As far as, Rahul Gandhi, is concerned, my view is that he will not become PM until such time the Congress has majority on its own – that translates into a wait for another 10 to 20 years or more. He has failed also as vote-catcher for variety of reasons, that will also be weighing on his mind.

    Presidential system may have its merit. IMO, I do not think it would work in a diverse country like India. In such a system, the candidates should be able to speak all the languages for a country like India, how else will he campaigns in all the states (Modi cannot campaign in Odissa speaking in Hindi or Gujarati). In our parliamentary system, the MPs communicate in the local language and that is good enough for the local populace.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It is quite possible Akhilesh may hold the single largest block of seats, more than Congress or BJP.

    It is also possible BJP will yield to Jaya (And her 40 seats) in a coalition, using the “freedom” during the time to really build the party — something they ahve not been able to.

    never a dull moment

    Anonymous Reply:

    40 seats for Jaya?????????

    I doubt whether SP will able to get anything more than 40 odd seats in 2014. People tend to vote differently for the Lok Sabha elections. I think the Congress and the BJP would still be largest parties in their respective coalitions,

    I think the BJP would rather prefer Nitish Kumar – whose image and reputation is far superior to any of the regional leaders and he is from Hindi heartland (that counts).

    Anyway, the problem the BJP has to overcome is to have coalitions, they should start now and not wait until April of 2014 (with voting in May) and stop working overtime. Let them also have a some realistic vision minus the mumbo-jumbo. The Congress may not have much of problem as far as coalitions are concerned – it is less of an untouchable.

    The above is my crystal gazing. Yes, never a dull moment – our parties and its leaders are great entertainers.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    You are right. Modi needs a different PR team. If you watched yesterday’s TV debates, with supporters/spokespersons like Oza, Smriti Irani and Ravishankar Prasad being fielded, he does not need enemies. For a change, Jai Narayan Vyas was very sensible in his responses.

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  • Anonymous

    RajeevS, where are you? Have you been tongue-tied? ;-)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,
    Not tongue tied but bed tied, under weather.
    Will jon you guys soon.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Welcome Rajeev;
    Wish you early recovery.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What happened?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Get well soon.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev,

    Have a strong peg and don’t stay in bed alone.
    Get well soon.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Utterly predictable tip from who else – the original tippler.

    Lage Raho Daaruwala. ;-)

    Anonymous Reply:

    VD is dangerous !

  • Anonymous

    April 10 – The Day News Media Died

    http://www.mediacrooks.com/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Isn’t it premature to talk of death? They are still around. The author is hoping that they die.

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————
    ~~ BREAKING NEWS !! BREAKING NEWS !! Obama announces daughter as successor !!!! ~~~~~~~~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————-

    The latest cover edition of TIME magazine has President Obama announcing his daughter as successor.

    It is said that Obama, being an India lover was impressed with the policies of the Indian National Congress in creating sping that the Indian people need to do fuedal family worship, dynasty slavery and menatal naukership.

    It is said he is asked INDIAN SPIN DOCTORS and media people TO JOIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY so that the need for the Obama khandaan rule for next 60 yeqars is prepared…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Lage raho Vijay !

    This way you will probably convince some people that the Congress needs to look at policies and not be fixated with the family. We have had some wonderful plus contributions from nehru and Indira in their initial years.

    However our democracy and polity needs to evolve beyond personalities into issues. Surely, we are an emotional people, but hanging on to one family has stopped us from spreading development all over India and the politics of charisma and families destroys true potential of countries.

    Surely the smaller regional parties have emulated the Congress and they too have just remained static as family feifdoms controlling wealth and the state.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    thx Vinoo

    My idea is that a new India emerges. 50 years back we lead the world in terms of personal and political freedoms. Now most of the globe has become democratic… and moved ahead of us.

    We have instead created a scenario that we are asked to vote for families, who now control considerable wealth.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    Tum kab sudharoge?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Pankaj

    I think it is better my tail remains taedaa… If I can show a few people the truth that their mental slavery and nauker attiude has pushed us even behind South Africa (mandela does not will presidentship to his son, grandaughter) Sri Lanka, vietnam etc. I think I have done my service to our country…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    more than love for India, his love for murg masallam has this effect on him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I know … he wants to ensure murg mussalam for the next three generations COngress style.

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  • Pankaj#1

    Hey Guys;
    Take Sanjay in your folds. I know, who he is, but even then, he is a lovable person.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Who is he? Hamein bhi bataao.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manoahr;
    Huzoor Ahista, Ahista, Zanab, Ahista.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ???

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Sanjay;
    Three question marks are three too much.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks for the kind words….but the glass is clouded !

    Ravi Reply:

    Who is Sanjay???

    Here are the runners and riders.

    100 to 1 – He is Vinod Sharma. The writing style and grasp of details suggest that this is a fair bet. Similarity with his sire Morning Glory is well noted. However, if Vinod is moonlighting as Sanjay then he must be underemployed to devote so much time to this a fairly frivolous blog.

    50 to 1 – He is Dr Shan. Eager to shed his Nirad sobriquet a new avtar would be quite handy. However writing styles are so different and obscure references are missing.

    33 to 1 – He is Ashish. Ashish would sooner commit Hari Sati than to support the familia sagrada, which Sanjay so evidently does.

    10 to 1 – He is Vijay Kumar KhapLoathYa. A writer capable of projecting a false persona has all the skills needed to maintain a charade of pseudo discussion. Tongue is so firmly lodged in the cheek that it leaves no room for a jordi of Lakhnavi Paan

    5 to 1 – He is BV Shenoy. Considering that regular and persistent lashing of others on this blog has long lost its effectiveness. Shenoy has started a double role and is now subsumed in this righteous act of self-flagellation.

    Evens Money – Sanjay is Sanjay, because no discernible purpose is to be served by being someone else.

    Feel free to extend.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ravi;
    Whosoever you are, I love you.

    Ravi Reply:

    Pankaj.

    Believe me I am Ravi. The very same who grew up going to Roshan Di Kulfi for Channa Bhatura and to Standard Barfi for Pista Barfi.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ravi;
    This logic, is great. But I am still fan of Shenoy.

    Anonymous Reply:

    same grovelling, same begging for recognition, same pleading for being identified with the Mona sardar bullshit.

    You will always remain the same-fake Ravi, the asli jihadi.

    Consistencey is your only virtue.

    Ravi Reply:

    I have all the recognition I need.

    You still remain the same pathetic frookhabadi runt with Kali topi, a tait lungoat and saffron terrorism as only objective.

    You crave dominance more than any other and that is why Sanjay, and Manohar irk the Shite out of you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You forgot to mention the trade mark walrus mustache-you Jihadi fundoo with the walrus mustache copy cat.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ha ha ha … interesting

    ENGRICH Reply:

    ravi saheb,

    sadqa har bala ko taal deta hai sawai uske jiske saath aap ne saath aapne saat pher liye hain.

    jode aasman pe bante hain aur khwar zameen par hote hain.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Engrich,

    Wow. Very good one.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi ji, the khp Losthya prt made me smile. Itna saara hatred… just because I want to get your out of sefdom and family worship, into a mindset of democracy?

  • Anonymous

    Gooing off to sleep now !

    I honestly hope I have made a few people think on how ALL Indian parties need to get out of this family owns party and state business.

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  • ENGRICH

    It is now official that SIT has given a clean chit to Modi and other
    accused in Gulberg society case. It is ironic that the same SIT has
    criticised the decision of Modi to allow parading the dead bodies
    of kar sevaks on the streets , deputing minsiters to man police
    control rooms during riots, destruction of evidence , but still found
    no evidence to prosucute him. The way forwasrd for the valiant widow
    is to knock the doors of courts for justice. .The role of Indian media
    is baffling , it is portraying the SIT report as clean chit and
    discussing Modi as a potential Prime minister. Contrast this with
    the role Media played in the Jessical Lal murder case, Priyadarshini
    mattoo case, Ruchika molestation case where media shouted from the
    roof tops when the accused in those cases were left off lightly, and
    because of its pressure those cases were reopened. .Equally baffling
    is the silence of muslim leadership. Instead of helping the brave
    widow, and NGO’s fighting on her behalf , our so called messiahs are
    fighting amongst themselves for a MLC seat in UP ( Azam khan Vs
    Bukhari), or their kins are breaking bread with a proud Kar sevak
    sushil modi in Bihar, or are busy in indulging gutter level
    politicking over new AMU VC.,. The least shahbuddins, azam khans,
    asaduddin owaisis,, maulana bhukharis and their tribe can do is to
    mobilise public opinion against this report with the help of people
    like Harsh Mander , Teesta Setalvad, shabnam Hashmi , Sanjiv Bhatt,
    Retd Justice Suresh etc, but unfortunately,, as always these worthies
    have chosen hibernation, instead of action .. Contrast this with the
    solidarity displayed by sikhs on the issue of mercy petition for a
    convicted killer Rajohara, or the solidarity displayed by Tamil Nadu
    parties over mercy for Rajiv Gandhi’s killers.
    The only hope left now for the riot victims is court of law.
    Hoping that Justice will be provided to Zakia Jafri and to the kins of
    other 2,000 innocent victims. Praying that Teesta setalvad and her
    companions succeed in getting the culprits of Genocide punished

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  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    Repeatedly seeing, khuda kare ke….on you tube, Pakistani film, Afshaan, 1971, of all, music is by nashad( Naushad). These bas… are so much like us and so different??

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    Dr Mishra Reply:

    haha vintage Pankaj

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    Anonymous Reply:

    yes, a vintage Pankaj ji taking a swipe at a vintage Vinodji.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Naashad was not Naushad Ali. His full name was Shaukat Dehlvi Nashad and was Indian composer. He met with moderate success in India and migrated to Pakistan in 1964 for greener pastures.

    Some of his popular songs are

    Baradari (1955)
    bhulaa nahi.n denaa – Rafi + Lata
    http://www.dishant.com/jukebox.php?songid=38987

    tasveer banaataa hoo.n – Talat
    http://www.dishant.com/jukebox.php?songid=38992

    Zara Bachke (1959)
    pyaar jagaane waalaa – Lata + Manna Dey
    http://www.hindigeetmala.com/song/pyar_jagane_wala_neend_churane_wala.htm

    Bada Bhai (1957)
    chori chori dil kaa lagaanaa – Asha + Talat
    http://www.hindigeetmala.com/song/chori_chori_dil_kaa_lagana.htm

    Pyar Ki Dastan (1960)
    sunle meri jaan – Talat + Suman
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_JPQs7GB4A

    Qatil (1960)
    suni kisine bekahi hamaari – Rafi + Suman
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY6YhV9Ip6o

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    Anonymous Reply:

    All immortal songs.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    These are rather popular songs. Thanks for making clear the difference between Naashad and Naushad.

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  • Dr Mishra

    Nice one below”””””””””””

    Very rare display of pure good humour by Ravi- he of the ‘5000 dalit women being raped by Banias everyday’ fame.

    Who is Sanjay?
    Who is Ravi- Sialkotia as Raju Kurien says or Mona Sikh as no one believes
    Who is Prabhat, Prahlad?
    Is Shan really a doctor?
    Is Rajiiiv of HT same as babloo of Express tribune? Yes he is, and I have enjoyed his battles with the Pakistanis over last few months.
    Did Mohan really meet Shenoy, or are we all cyber ghosts.
    Will I meet Ravi and Balwinder praa in UK one day?

    But most of all who is Engerich? He who got banned, he who bored us endlessly with the Manusmriti trash, but who reinvented himself, and his grammar and syntax, as the lone voice projecting the muslim viewpoint, whether it is defending Aurangzeb (pointless) or sharing Mrs Jaffrey’s crusade (relevant)

    India and Indians, or closet Pakistanis ?, continue to enthral, even those whose souls sre twisted by continuous reading of Wendy whatshername or Martha whocaresBaum

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mishraji;
    Welcome back. Missing you. Khul ke khel ne main jo maja hain, wo chhup chhup ne main kahan? . Engrich, Bachha hai. Ravi ke saath maja Aata hai. Ravi may be Indian, and most probably he is.He may not be a bad guy, just may be.let us go above pakistanis and hindustanis, maza usmain hi hai.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Some jihadis are even known to have hearts of pure gold.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    gud question doc. One day Engirch becomes a angrezi mein haath tight, on others he looks English, about right.

    Maybe with fund starvation ISI has got its higher grade guys onto this handle…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr.Mishra,

    a very lively, funnnn-do post.

    “Who is Ravi- Sialkotia as Raju Kurien says or Mona Sikh as no one believes”—-this, beside taking the plum cake, puts the issue of fakes on this blog squarely in a round hole.

    Look at your other observation: who is Sanjay? who is Prabhat? who is Prahlad?

    A long time back, when the phantom of Prabhat appeared on this blog for the first time, ram, the now extinct blogger, very perceptively said he (Prabhat) is none other than VINOD SHARMA himself. Nobody read it, because he wrote it in Kannada.

    Now, after Prabhat and Prahlad, we suddenly find rashes of posts from one Sanjay, with the additional tag of a surname Dhawan, perhaps to make it more believable than the erarlier two fakes. We are also seeing rashes of posts getting censored.

    It is not difficult to make the connection.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is what happens when you take the morning dose of jhaad phoonk at 12 O’ Clock !

    How many time have you been advised to take the timely doses ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Now you are just a step away from admitting that you are a fake.

    Your dawai too, like yourself, is fake.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like you need a stronger dose of jhaad phoonk ! I gave you a mild one factoring in the summer heat. Guess your system is quite besharam.

  • Anonymous

    It seems I missed lot of fun in last few hours. I had few guests at home.
    Rajeev – If you did not heed my advise, no problem I took few extra on your behalf
    tommorow morning you will be ok.
    Engrich. I want to improve my English, please give me contact of yor English teacher.
    Ravi you do have a flair. Your few lines on Sanjay were very funny
    Dr. Mishra : Piya hua hoon jooth nahin boloonga. I did meet Shenoy.
    Pankaj : agree with you sabko Khul ke khelna chahiye. I wish you had posted a sher also.

    Vijay. As usual your all posts bring smile on my face

    Would love to meet you all personally one day, not only whom I have named above but all
    the regulars of this best blog in the world.

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    Dr Mishra Reply:

    haha nice-Piya hua hoon jooth nahin boloonga. I did meet Shenoy

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    As Ravi said that this is a frivilous blog, I agree with him. Just now, in an hour or so I am supposed to join a tele conference, worth Millions. Why I come here, I suppose, it is anonymous, but, even if it is not, who cares, not me. ( do not tell this to my wife, Please). Koi maunju sher yaad nahin aaraha hai. it is here, that I am, what I am. every where else, I have to show that I am a respectable person, Very correct in every way.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    I think it was Rajiv (with newly acquired 2eyes), who said this blog has become frivolous. Fake Ravi, on the other hand loves to wallow in frivolity.
    The more, the better fro him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Really a good post to see before my walk….

    Good morning India

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    Anonymous Reply:

    piya tooooooooo ab to so jaaaaaaa.

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  • Anonymous

    Good morning guys.

    Never think of bad about yourself. There is no need to do that.
    Your neighbours and relatives are doing that.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And the only neighbours/relatives who think good about you are the ones who intend to tap you for a loan.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    100% agree with you.

    hai matlab ki duniya saari
    yahaan koi kisika yaar nahin
    kisiko sacha pyaar nahin.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Great.

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  • Anonymous

    Tsunami: This time, an alert India alerted rest of the world

    http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_tsunami-this-time-an-alert-india-alerted-rest-of-the-world_1674750

    Excerpt

    Scientists of Hyderabad’s Indian Tsunami Early Warning Centre (ITEWC) instantly picked up signals emanating from the bottom of Indian Ocean and issued an alert within six minutes to 28 countries. “There were minor tsunami waves following the earthquake but they subsided within minutes. We withdrew the alert once we were sure that there was no possibility of any tsunami,” Dr Satish Shenoi, director, Indian National Centre for Ocean Information Services (INCOIS) said.

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  • Anonymous

    UP children lodge plaint against Nirmal Baba

    http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_up-children-lodge-plaint-against-nirmal-baba_1674710

    Excerpt

    Tanaya, 16 and Aditya, 13 on Tuesday went to the Gomtinagar police station to get an FIR registered against Baba. The written report said Nirmal Baba cheats common people by claiming godly powers. The report says his activities fuel superstitious thoughts and are a “hindrance to modernistic thoughts”.

    ———-

    Isn’t it time to say = baabaa maaf karo, bahot ho gayaa?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Problem is that there are millions of people who will say
    Babaa mere liye Kuch karo.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    and there are many more millions who will say, “baaba, mere liye sub kuch karo, mujhe aap ke bus mein le lo”.

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  • Anonymous

    The danger is closing in

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/editorial-views-on/Edits/The-danger-is-closing-in/Article1-839101.aspx

    Excerpt

    India has not managed a unified policy till now because of the lack of a cohesive political approach on security-related issues. While the BJD-led Orissa government has been complaining about the fact that the Congress-led UPA government has not been helpful enough in tackling the latest hostage crisis, let’s not forget how its chief minister, Naveen Patnaik, along with West Bengal chief minister Mamata Banerjee, objected to the setting up of the proposed anti-terror hub, the National Counter-Terrorism Centre (NCTC), saying that it would infringe upon the states’ powers.

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  • Anonymous

    US busts another scam by India-based call centres

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/SectorsBPOs/US-busts-another-scam-by-India-based-call-centres/Article1-839135.aspx

    Excerpts

    A US court halted this operation following charges filed by the Federal Trade Commission. It was run by two California-based companies owned by Indian-origin businessman, Kirit Patel.

    ———

    Callers target US citizens who have either taken payday loans (to be returned by net payday) or have considered it by visiting websites offering such loans.

    They receive repeated calls from people pretending to be US law enforcement officers — such as Officer Mike Johnson — threatening to take action if the owed sum was not returned.

    This is also being called Phantom Debt scam also because callers are known to have targeted people who had no outstanding debts and forced them to pay by threatening them with arrest.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Indians do leave their ‘mark’ where ever they go.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Indians do leave their mark, but keep their mask on.

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  • Anonymous

    Like raja Ram Mohan roy, I would like to be a social reformer. I want to change the Indian mindset– even amongst mature adults of being serfs and naukers of the royal family.

    A lot of you may say… Not again!! Let us serve our chotta sahab and badi malikin and please do not disturb, Vijay.

    Raviji and manoharji even invoked 72 virgins to distrub me from the path of reforming India.

    Remember the fall in standards of Indian life is muc to do with this “domestic servant complex”?

    The Day, President Giani Zail Singh announced that he wanted to clean the bartan in mrs Gandhi’s house and clean the floor ( the exact word in Punjabi is bhaande maanjana), Shrimati Pratibha Devi did the same…. and now is the president.

    Clearly domestic servant mentality and serfdom pays…

    But our democracy now lags behind the democrcy of most nations which dont have naukar complexes…

    Aur yeh jeena bhi koi jeena hai ???

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “…Like raja Ram Mohan roy, I would like to be a social reformer….”

    -
    Honourable thought. Unlikely means.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    ” Pumping a cycle tyre is not same as firing a crygenic engine.”

    Send this is Navjot Siddhu, he will use this in one of his shows.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I still remember his joke about how indian batting line falls like the chain effect in a cycle stand when one cycle falls on another, then hundreds of them fall in no time!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    One of his best was :

    Statistics are like mini skirts, what they show is
    suggestive and what they hide is vital.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I wish he was a little more serious in politics. He is quite an intelligent guy. Very refreshing.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Gonna use this in one of my staff meetings.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is important to have honourable thoughts… Not all of us can achive the gratness of the greats, but we can at least learn from them.

    On my part I have learned to live with the idea that some people will throw 72 virgins in my path to disturb me from the tract of reforming the polity. Gods certainly would be pleased that I have walked thru 72 virgins… and focused on this blog !

    A cycle pump has its own uses which a cryogenic engine may not. At least it fills in air into my football and makes me cycle mobile. A cryogenic engine… may not achive that much.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Having a thought is one thing, trying to be a thought leader another.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Am too lazy or too occupied in life and on this blo to be a thought leader. But I am not too bad a thought instigator. Why not use reverse psychology to get the person on the right path…?

    Now who the hell wants to admit that he wants to be a naukar… a serf ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    An engineer is not supposed to be told about the “tools” he needs to actualise a thought into a reality.

    Are we going to make it a drag ?

    Blowing on a piece of land with a paper cone ( just because you are lazy or for a feel good factor ) will not do a job of an JCB .

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon… I can actually get people– more intelligent and well read then me– on track by making them think… but then my domains are limited.

    Unfortunately modern day life begins with a taxi meter running the moment you breath. And in my case generating cash for the salaries of a few workers…

    saala, issi ka naam zindagi hai !

    Anonymous Reply:

    “…Why not use reverse psychology to get the person on the right path…?…”

    -
    I am trying to do a decent job. Honestly, maa kasam.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dont I know that :)

  • Anonymous

    About 19 crores have been spent on Kasab security.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Maharashtra-asks-Centre-to-waive-Kasab-guarding-fee/articleshow/12630037.cms

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    we must understand that this small sum of 19crores has been well spent.

    Somehow our government has managed to keep the body and soul of Kasab together.

    What is a few dozen goats and cows, compared to the enormous goodwill we are getting from Pakistanis?

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  • Anonymous

    Sentencing of Ode killings. 18 get life and 5 will go in for 7 years. Good decision
    by courts, criminals should be punished. I hope we see same happening to
    1984 rioters and other rioters too .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    We have to prosecute these types (well all types ) of cases in a shorter span, say within three years of an incident. Cases drag for ever (this one is faster compared to other cases)

    It is high time we change all our systems – bureaucracy (does centralized IAS/IPS etc work, is it good), judiciary etcetc..

    The systems left behind by the white man suitable for a “remote” raj are not the suitable ones for a vibrant “people owned” country

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Fast tracking of cases should be on top of the priority list.
    May be we can have separate courts/judges for different types of crimes. Murders, riots in separate courts, economic frauds should go to different courts and likewise. This may expedite the cases.
    Of course we will need more courts and judges.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But, Mohan, the pseudo-fundos don’t mind these 23 not getting any punishment and walking free if Modi is sent to the gallows.

    Remember this fake Ravi’s plans for applying “closure”?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Yes there are many who would want Modi to be hanged even if thousands of criminals
    are set free. I am not referring to any particular person.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    MOhan… did you actually sleep last night? When I woke up… at 5.30 Delhi time… u were still posting which means about 3.30 Dubai time…

    Anyway ur joke about the government office made me laugh… while I jogged…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    I had guests at my home and they left around 2 PM, that is
    3.30 in India. Just before going to sleep could not resist from
    visiting this blog.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Totally agree

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    All the posts have got mixed up, with which of my post you agree with ?
    That I went to sleep at very late hours ? (: (:

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Don’t know which one is more deadly. The straight blade, or the curved one !

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    This one

    Sentencing of Ode killings. 18 get life and 5 will go in for 7 years. Good decision
    by courts, criminals should be punished. I hope we see same happening to
    1984 rioters and other rioters too .

  • Anonymous

    An interesting read

    http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/98sep/kerala.htm

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Gods own land. Very interesting .I believe education makes huge difference and almost all Keralites are educated. At least three times my wife and I
    had made a program of visiting this beautiful state but somehow it
    could not materialize. Hopefully this year around Sep. Oct …..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Communism is finally waning; everybody is on the development wagon now–

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  • Anonymous

    @ Shenoy and Mohan

    I have a gut feeling that the UPA wont hang Kasab. it is just too big a decison for them. Obfuscation, running around trees, Antulay, Digviash type of politcs and then finally the bleeding heart logic… woh hi toh insaan hai na, iski bhi maa behn aur LeT handler hai…

    I think we should ear mark funds for Kasab’s security in the next three five year plans :)

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  • Anonymous

    An interesting/informative coverage on Modi/Gujrat done by a Western think tanker few years ago

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/04/india-8217-s-new-face/7332/

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  • Anonymous

    Public procurement bill will help check graft !

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Public-procurement-bill-will-help-check-graft-Kapil-Sibal/Article1-839424.aspx

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Anything not paid for through draft is graft.

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————
    ~~~~ WHAT MADE SHEKHAR GUPTA LOSE HIS head and credibility?~~
    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    NDTV reprts that the court has now banned all news on troop movement as it can compromise teh country’s security.
    ————————————————————————————–

    The Allahabad High Court on Tuesday restrained the electronic and print media from publishing and broadcasting any news reports on the movement of two army units towards Delhi in January, as reported in a section of the media.

    A division bench of Justice Uma Nath Singh and Justice V.K. Dixit also directed the Union Home and Information and Broadcasting ministries to ensure the implementation of the order.

    The court was hearing a public interest suit filed by social activist Nutan Thakur.
    The judges agreed with the petitioner that media reporting on this subject, if permitted to continue, may seriously jeopardise the security of the country.

    The court issued the order imposing curbs on the reporting of the episode and said its copies be sent to officials concerned.
    ———————————————————-

    BIG QUESTIONS:

    a) Was Shekhar misled or he let himsedlf be misled becasue of Rajya Sbha considerations?

    b) The indian express was with India when the congress made hay and moolah in Bofors and HDW. Now is it a signal of the tricky times that the Express has become a Mani Aiyar?

    c) C’mon Shekhar get your credibilty back by apologising and then exposing the mole who misled you.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Should have also banned :

    1) Army must not issue “press releases” directly.
    2) The army chief must not speculate the ramification of such movements in public/press through personal interviews and statements.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinodji,

    like the SIT of Raghavan, the SC and High courts are still independent and you cannot direct them to act according to your party’s diktats.

    You may wish the court would gag the army.

    No sir, sorry the court will not oblige you.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Kamaksha Prashad,

    The court may follow the accepted norms.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think the army chief has to be restrained. HOWEVER in case no action was taken on the kickbacks complaint given by him to ANthony, he had reason to go tho the press– otherwise COngress spinners were ready to make him a villian– as the Indian express piece showed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He had every reason to act at the very first instance !

    Did he threaten to take action ?

    Did Anthony stop him when he wanted to take action?

    He was the “direct party”, involved in the episode.

    The action is not taken on oral complaint and then not showing the enthusiasm to pursue the case.

    Do not pussyfoot. This was gross incompetence on his part.

    The army chief of this country needs to be sure footed. Not a brooding type with bad response system.

    Earlier he said he could not react and take action because it was “indirect” and “vague”. Suddenly now he says “Vectra chief is behind the bribe offer”. Now he is playing a game of going soft on the person who supposed to have offered him bribe (allegedly a senior ex- army guy) and pushing the case against a civilian with a remarkable cockiness. Now CBI instead of investigating the “Bribe case”, is following irregularities in Vectra.

    The guy is a bad example of kind of person who should not be leading our army.

    I bet Musharraf would beat this guy hands down in any level 1 war games !

    I am glad he is retiring now.

    [ Now some investigating officers and few British politicians will make some quick bucks ! ]

    Anonymous Reply:

    So in your view, the first general who actually exposed kickbacks , taken by politicians and bureaucrats since 1947, is the real villian?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Exposed ? He is a cry baby. A pathetic leader. Don’t glorify a normal duty ( or lapse of it ).

    Professional Martial artists don’t get into roadrage fights. Young Virat Kohli is a far better professional than this man !

    Anonymous Reply:

    C’mon Sanjay

    This is sounding more like KK Tewari and Mani Aiyar and Kalpanath Rai slamming VP SIngh for trying to catch the ghoos takers of Bofors and HDW

    Anonymous Reply:

    “V P Singh is the reason that people see every politician with suspicion” – somebody had famously said.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right. Now suddenly he is pointing fingers at the Vectra chief. Why didn’t he say that ealier?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shekhar Gupta was indeed a fiercely independent and independently thinlking journalist till recently.

    Dark-brown skinned that he is, he must have got bowled over by Sonia Gandhi’s white-skinned beauty.

    And ever since she has become the Rajmata for all the secular editors, it has been one hell of a downward journey for Shekhar Gupta, notwithstanding the padma vidooshit award.

    He has unfortunately forgotten that the Express was founded by Ramnath Goenka with a certain philosophy. He has actually joined hands with Goenka’s tormentors.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Whatever Shekhar’s compulsion… he made an *** out of himself. Did he give any news of revolt by officersMushaaraff style ? NO

    Did he detail his source ? NO

    Did he say that the Lt general commanding the unit was in league with VK SIngh? NO

    I think he lost out on the rajya Sabha seat to Vinod Sharma who does not given incredible stories when he defends the Congress. … with spin:)

    Yeh wala round VInodji ko.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    if a journalist does not follow a lead or sniff a story, then he is hardly a journalist !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy

    He may be following the business dictum that “one has to adapt to the changing environment”

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  • Anonymous

    Here are a few of engrich’s jihadi ustaad’s father’s favourite thoughts:

    It is now official that SIT has given a clean chit to Modi and other
    accused in Gulberg society case.

    The way forwasrd for the valiant widow is to knock the doors of courts for justice. .

    The role of Indian media is baffling , it is portraying the SIT report as clean chit and
    discussing Modi as a potential Prime minister.

    .Equally baffling is the silence of muslim leadership. Instead of helping the brave
    widow, and NGO’s fighting on her behalf , our so called messiahs are
    fighting amongst themselves for a MLC seat in UP ( Azam khan Vs
    Bukhari), or their kins are breaking bread with a proud Kar sevak
    sushil modi in Bihar, or are busy in indulging gutter level
    politicking over new AMU VC.,.

    as always these worthies have chosen hibernation, instead of action ..

    The only hope left now for the riot victims is court of law. Hoping that Justice will be provided to Zakia Jafri and to the kins of other 2,000 innocent victims.

    engrich, if you are feeling so strongly dejected and angry, why haven’t you asked why Zakia Jaffri failed to get the supreme court “sufficiently” interested in her appeal?

    Perhaps, you will never ask, because perhaps you know the answer, which our media has chosen to forget.

    The answer is Zakia Jaffri had NOT filed an FIR against Modi for the murder of her husband and others in 2002 when she had in fact filed an FIR.

    Accusing Modi of the said murder was an after thought which came to her ONLY IN 2006!

    That was when Teesta, her husband, Javed Anand and other “concerned citizens” persuaded her to file a fresh FIR against Modi.

    When the police station refused to entertain such a belated hate-induced complaint, she went to the court, which refused to entertain the petition.

    She then went to the High Court, which too dismissed her appeal.

    When she approached the supreme court against the HC decision, the SC merely gave her complaint to the SIT “to look into it”.

    It was then that all the chest-thumping seculars proclaimed that the SIT is totally independent, incorruptible, beyond anybody’s reach for influence-peddling.

    When the SIT submitted its report to the SC, the SC merely asked the lower court to “give a hearing” to Jaffri before deciding on the case.

    In effect, all along from the police station to the Supreme court, nobody really gave any credence to Jaffri’s complaint against Modi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It’s

    “INTERMISSION”

    time.

    Please wait for the show to begin after the break. Don’t get restless and argue with the patrons. The hero will still be in the frame.

    Enjoy the special Burger + Nachos + Pepsi combo during this break.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    but, you have ignored engrich’s submission!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I mostly do.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy

    KERALA

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy

    Kerala has been going through a political crisis totally unreported in the national media.

    Muslim League, the dominant coalition partner of Congress led UDF, has been demanding a fifth ministerial slot for a while so they get their “proportional” number of ministers matching their number of MLA seats.

    Congress has been giving excuses, the final excuse being that the central high command has to decide.

    Sonia Gandhi has finally decided, Muslim League will get one more minister. Congress has one Muslim minister among its seven ministers; Muslim League already had four; with the additional Muslim League minister, there are six Muslim ministers in the council of 20 ministers. (30%)

    Only in India (or kerala!)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    I share your misgivings about the Kerala communal politics reaching or having already reached the point of another partition without the rest of India not knowing anything about it or not caring in the least.

    The assessment of some social scientist in the west about the behaviour of Muslim societies in countries around the world depending on their demographics is happening right in our back yard.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Sanjay

    The Congress dirty tricks department has enough spinners to twist a whistle blowers effort into an isreali-US- BJP consiracy against the poor of the third world.

    When VP singh put on fairfax into the kickbacker takers in Bofors and HDW—- the COngress appointed and enquiry… on guess WHAT?

    a) Whether VP Singh had compromised national security by traying to trace out ghoos takers.

    O What a beautifull lie !!

    b) It got Chandrswami and then created the forged St Kitts accounts trying to prove that actually VP Singh was a kickbacker himself

    O what a beautifull lie ! :)

    Sanjayji, I think you are a bit innocent on the ways of our Congress and its spinners,

    You should rather be gratefull to the brave general for playing the game in which even Shekhar Gupta has landed in the hot chocolate fudge of deciet full face down !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    i don’t have to go very far.

    Recently the party in power in Karnataka started investigating the journalists who reported the porn case.

    [ Please put some effort to get more dope on fairfax ]

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I know … small porn watching cannot be equated with insult to the Indian army.

    So you are comparing Shekhar Gupta to the people who started investigating journalists. Yes its true. Shelhar too tred to destroy a whistle blowing general with spin and fell face down in a hot choclotepool of deciet.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How did you manage to get Shekhar Gupta into this post of yours and my reply ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    You were insinuating that the Karnataka assembly went after the whistle blowers in karnataka . I was stating a fact that Shekhar Gupta and co went aftyer the whistleblower in Vectra kickbacks …

    Anonymous Reply:

    If the Army chief of this country becomes a “mere whistle blower”, then we should worry the abysmal low we have hit !

    First you bring your army chief down to a section officer level, then put him on a high pedestal for something ordinary that he did or did not do !

    You amaze me with your level of naivity !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Einstein was naive when he dreamt the impossible.

    newton was naive… when he made a theory around an apple… which trolls llike me would have happily eaten and said, “rabba… teri full kripa..”

    Gandhi was naive when he thought that a tax on salt could unite a nation…

    You need naiveity to achieve something…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Amitabh was as tall as me when he was young !

    Anonymous Reply:

    gud one..

    Anonymous Reply:

    did you by mistake mix your butter chicken with pork chezhwan?

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  • Anonymous

    “if a journalist does not follow a lead and sniff a story, then he is hardly a journalist ” What holds good for Shekhar Gupta also holds good for M D Nalapat. But since MD Nalapat’s stories are quite inconvenient for some , so they look for a slant and pattern there.Shekhar Gupta’s story has been blown into smithereens , and there are enough reasons to suspect that his sympathies lie with the Arma Dealers cabal who are out to knock out the General.
    On reading the stout defence on Vectra and the inquisition of Gen V K Singh , we got an impression that probably extracts from the PR dossier prepared by Vectra and circulated to media houses , which certainly would have included the Hindustan Times too , has been quoted on this blog. Some would have wished that if Nira Radia had still been in business , Vectra could have got better results from its PR efforts as these extracts would have found there way in the main paper rather than just a blog.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A story and a series of stories in a regular intervals with a pattern are two different things.

    A lead story with follow up stories is also different from few random stories creating a broad web.

    And it’s less about Vectra and more about the man who is leading our army.

    Can we be even more explicit ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Sanjaydhawan
    “A story and a series of stories with a regular intervals with apattern are two different things.

    A lead story with follow up stories is also different from few random stories creating a broad web.”

    If we dwell a little on the above contention which relates more to the functioning of the media , and not just confined to the Vectra vs VK Singh saga , then we may ask where would the campaign to hound Narendra Modi lie. Where do we place the media coverage of the Campaign of Rahul Gandhi and his sister and her kids and her husband in UP… I wonder was / is there a slant and pattern there . or were they lead stories with follow ups.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I detest mixing my punjabi “butter chicken” with chinese “chicken manchurian”.

    We will talk about finer nuances of Chicken manchurian in another setting. Allow me to enjoy my butter chicken now.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please enjoy your Punjabi “Butter chicken” and let me enjoy my “Chicken Manchurian” .

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Praveen

    I was a school then. But since you are older you must be having more details…

    Shekhar Gupta and co are sounding more and more like KK tewari, Kalpanath Rai and Mani Aiyar, who took on V P singh when he went after the ghoos takers of Bofors and HDW…. :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I replied elsewhere -

    “V P Singh is the reason why people see all politicians with suspicion” – somebody had famously said.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vp Singh’s strong point he was meant to be a No2 man… never the leader. He needed instructions… could not be the man with the big vision.

    But when he went after the Bofors kickback takers… he just beleived in Rajiv who wanted a “clean” government. he did not know that the raja’s hands were not to clean in this….

    Anonymous Reply:

    May be you were too young then to comprehend.
    He went to the election saying he was carrying the “secret code” to the Swiss account in his pocket. He would reveal it the moment he won the election.

    He won the election. He became the Prime Minister with the help of the BJP’s Lotus symbol.

    Then Vajpayee came and had his shot at the chair.

    Governments came and went. Even years after, the Nation is still waiting for that secret code to the “Lotus” swiss account.

    Very honest man indeed !

    We also saw few honest ( with corny explanation about honesty ) people hitting the street recently.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well I saw another man tearing a piece of paper. The Public tore up his party’s fake syrcvey which projected 133 seats…

    Anonymous Reply:

    I knew you would have difficulty holding on to your hero !

    Anonymous Reply:

    o come on!

    Let the Congress come out and proudly say , “We beleive that there is complete honesty in Bofors and HDW and Quotrochchi is our God of honesty we will use and have used that same honesty in all international deals since then… and will learn from Quotrochchi sahab to enhancwe India”

    Should not the COngress high command commit to Bofors and HDW degree of honesty?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Though it sounds a little repeatitive, you should have asked vajpayee not to “sleep over those issues”.

    Once a while an oil massage is fine. But daily prolonged oil massage makes people go dizzy at odd moments, sometimes even during meetings with the foreign delegations.

    Anonymous Reply:

    box too small for my phton … reply typed on top..

    Anonymous Reply:

    did you mean ‘botox’?

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Parveen Sahab;
    Dekhan main chhoti lagai.n, par ghhav karai.n gambheer. Your post is good.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Much against the express wishes of Vinod Sharma, expressed through his proxy, I am back to the subject of Shekhar Gupta.

    He was pathetic in his self-defence when he was subjected to an inquisition each on CNN-IBN by Rajdeep Sardesai and NDTV by Sonia Verma.

    His body language and the constant flailing of hands showed an acutely embarrassed editor suffering the insufferable battering and losing it.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Sanjay

    You talked about head massages…

    Well our current Foreign minister could do with one. I heard he took it with the wig on– so he did not get the brightness.

    And ened up reading a speech of the government of Chile (?)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You always end up reducing the status !

    You tomtom the Army Chief’s action like that of a Section Officer ( Bade saab bol rahe the ki file ko jaane do, mein khayal rakhunga. Woh toh bade aadmi hai, mein ab kya karooon ? CVC ko bolna theeck rahega kya ? Woh to kuchh golmol karke bol diye. Mere paas toh koi witness bhi nehi hai… ).

    Then again you reduce the wholesome full body massage to a mere head massage !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    COme on…

    In my whole life… I have only cheered for India. Even when watching the HOngkong derby,,, where a sole Indian filly had a chance of 1 in 10.

    And I sincerly beleive that Shekhar GUpta has mad a blunder of a life time– much bigger then the journos of Niira’s love story. We have a decent ex servicemen’s assosciation otherwise it would have been a permanent long list of court cases which the express would be facing.

    Even the janata of India may take this up in PIL’s. The COngress leadership is very very shallow and has the IQ level of Digviansh SIngh. If it goes further on this track… let it be prepared to lose India, in a manner worse than it lost UP.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Again Shekhar Gupta !

    Please don’t allow a 3rd person uninvited in your honeymoon. Your bad habit may put you in trouble.

    I just requested Praveen not to mix Butter Chicken with Chicken Manchurian. He understood immediately and agreed to have them separately. I will request him to call you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But why not SHekhar Gupta?

    he created a Manmohan Desai stroy of a possible coup. The biggest blunder by a newsman in recent times. WHy not get to the root of the issue and derive why it was done?

    Indians should learn from blunders and not start shouting Yeddy yeddy or Modi Modi to sweep the issue under the carpet.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Create another thread . Simple.

    Don’t mix with the existing thread on different topic of discussion.

    Anonymous Reply:

    sach kahin kadwa toh nahin?

    Nahin? Nahin! nahin?

    Anonymous Reply:

    khatta, meetha, teekha and kadwas are served separately. Ask any master chef or old ladies at home.

    Hope you are not anything-in-tomato-gravy kinda guy !

    Anonymous Reply:

    loves mexican rice with hot chillis served by the love of my life…

    which, by the way rarely happens…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Been following Rahul?

    Yours Columbian, mine Mexican !

    Not getting many occasions ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well for rahul it is colambain architecture… resulting i BRT as in Bogota and Delhi…

    Ravi Reply:

    Khapi Sahab.

    Pay as much attention to the love of your life as you give to this blog.

    Hot mexican rice will soon follow.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thank you raviji !

    if Khapi was meant at me… I take it as a compliment. That I have riled you enough to give up naukeri of the royal family… and you are in a process of catharisis. Either u will hate me… aur hate remaining a nauker..

    Of course paying attention for mexican rice is good advice..

    Anonymous Reply:

    your discomfiture at discussing the colossal blunder of committed by the foremost leader of the pack of congress camp-following fellow editors, is notable for its acuteness.

    And so is your burning desire to change the subject to honeymoons, butter chickens etc.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I prefer talking different topics in different threads for brevity.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nira Radia had several editors on her pay rolls
    because while they had brains, they had no balls
    to stand up to her and refuse to take her calls,
    Shekhar was among the rare ones who saw the pit falls

    But, he had the Rajya Sabha seat in his sights
    he saw his chance in the army vs government fights
    but the General could knock out Shekhar’s day lights
    And the congress made him look like a boy flying kites.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sad that Shekhar took the bait
    Rajay Sabha or not… he just lost the plate…

    Gr8 poetic analysis…

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shenoy Sahab;
    Shekhar is a good journalist with penetrating insight. he is also not easily purchasable. how he commited this guffaw, is beyond me.

    Anonymous Reply:

    According to few here and elsewhere, anyone remotely not pro-BJP/RSS is a purchasable commodity and corrupt to the core. It does not cost anything to throw such allegations against one’s enemies. Bolne mein kyaa hai.

    Anonymous Reply:

    frankly people like Bofors kicback ecievers and Tatra kickback recivers are purchasable like the 2 g guys.

    Shekhar is a decent jouno who got lost becasue someone high up was feeding him false news. I think you should see that… rather be paranoid of seeing Modi, BJP, RSS everywhere.

  • Pankaj#1

    Sanjay/ Ravi
    It is a pleasure to read both of you. Last time, blog was going a bit low on spirits( Mohan excepted) hence the chheda chhadi. Gustakhi Maaf.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You have always been forthright.

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    Ravi Reply:

    यार से छेड़ चली जाए है असद

    गर नहीं वसल तो हसरत ही सही

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  • Ravi

    Top Grunters

    THERE’S nothing quite as annoying as tennis players who make a racket on the court.
    Watching Sanjay and Vijay jaust is like watching a tennis match between Monica Seles and Maria Sharapova. Long after the audience has gone home these two world class base court players are still grunting at 110+ decibels.

    Bravo bravo, please do continue.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Good Observation Ravi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thank u we will keep grunting
    Am off to Berco’s and Chinese food will keep munching.

    The blog was empty as a a morning cinema hall
    There was no audience we needed to enthrall..

    Anyway in the entire universe there is only one troll
    Who punches the computer key and lets his mind scroll

    whetehr gravity can be combined with heartbeat and nueral commands
    There in lies my secret of this blog presensce without your demand ….. :)

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Hey Vijay;
    You can write poetry. keep it up.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Players rarely look at the audience !

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  • Anonymous

    Another example of business as usual for this govt…

    http://www.asianage.com/india/sc-tells-ngo-explain-u-turn-maran-role-089

    Bits from the article:

    NGO Telecom Watchdog’s secretary Anil Kumar, one of three petitioners who sought a CBI probe against Mr Maran, now alleged in his letter that Chennai-based Aircel founder C. Sivasankaran had ‘cooked up’ the story about Mr Maran ‘coercing’ him to sell his stake in Aircel to Malaysia-based company Maxis in order to get a ‘better price’, CBI counsel K.K. Venugopal told the court.

    • This revelation before a bench of Justices G.S. Singhvi and K.S. Radhakrishanan came as a ’shocker’, with the court observing ‘this may be for some consideration’, and ordered Mr Kumar to submit a sworn affidavit within a week to explain the ‘reasons and circumstances’ under which he had written directly to the CBI director while his petition was pending in the court.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    So what does this mean in plain English–IS Maran considered innocent because of this

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    Anonymous Reply:

    No, in fact it is to the contrary.

    The judges have asked Mr. Anil Kumar to explain the turn around in his stand. Justice Singhvi also told Mr. Venugopal (the CBI counsel) “they should treat his letter as a scrap of paper, which is to be thrown in dustbin.”

    The case carries on based on the complaints of The Centre for Public Interest Litigation and journalist Paranjoy Guha Thakurta.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It means one more guy got compromised.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Maran is innocent of decency and shamefulness in looting the country.

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  • Anonymous

    Article in today’s Chicago Ttribune about the sad state of Indian Railways.. real bad..says the growth rate will be up by 2% if the railways is fixed!
    (the pics look like from fifth world!)

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-rt-india-railways-insight-pictures-20120321,0,4898092.story?page=1

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    Anonymous Reply:

    yup. 60 plus years of Congress!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Brilliant article. Thanks for the link Binoy.

    The only way to progress (for all) is vision and investment. The advisory council of the incumbent govt. can only think of doles for votes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The concluding para
    A train returning from Kolkata is running five hours late.
    “The inconvenience caused is deeply regretted,” announces a
    voice from loudspeakers.

    ———

    Indian railways by and large is an apology for transport.

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  • Anonymous

    Guys,
    Thanks for the wishes. I am recovering but slow. Mohan, unfortunately I can not follow your advise for medical reasons. Have been on all kinds of soup.

    Anyway on SIT’s report on Modi-
    1. I think Zakia Jafri under the influence of Teesta was over optimistic about getting Modi entangled in Gulberg Society massacre. The main reason is that so called call from Jafri to Modi for help can not be proved because there is no such evidence.
    2. Modi may win the legal battle and I am sure he will but as far as perception is concerned, he can never shake off 2002 riots blot. NEVER.
    3. I don’t see him ever becoming PM of India because almost all the NDA partners except for SAD and Shiv Sena, who have some muslim vote bank, will never support him as PM.
    4. The only way he can win PM is when BJP gets majority on its own and I don’t see that happening for at least for next 20 years.

    On Shekhar Gupta-
    I think he was misled by a senior minister whose son is a defence Dalal. He like a true journalist picked up a story and did his duty. Now that it is proved that it was a routine troop movement, Shekhar Gupta can now at least say that ‘MAY BE I WAS WRONG’. You can not call Shekhar Gupta as Congressi-Journos. He is issue based journalist unlike HT journalists like Sharma and Vohra.

    Sanjay has been throwing some funny lines here…very clunky ones all the time. I must say that Sanjay is the most loyal Congressmen on this blog surpassing Manohar. Manohar has occasionally criticized Congress but Sanjay can’t tolerate a word against Congress. It reminds me of Vinod Sharma on TV debates.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    So, even you find resemblance between Mr. Sharma and Sanjaydhawan!!

    The majority can’t be wrong.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay shares many things with Sharma-
    1. Calling names
    2. Persistent
    3. Propagandist
    4. very very loyal to congress
    5. obviously clunky on forum.

    BUT I am open to all kinds of ideas except for B.U.L.L coming from terror sympathizer (you know who).

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That is a plateful of S.H.I.T. for the jihadi hitman.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Clunky lad ! Good to see you again.
    Glad you have recovered.Take it easy. Go slow.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks Clunky uncle. Looks like you have been minting money of late debating on different TV channels. Good for you. Take care of your health.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Clunky lad ! Like Shenoy you too have started seeing ghosts in broad day light ! Don’t strain yourself unnecessarily.It’s not worth it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    this particular ghost is easily recognisable by his foot prints on this blog.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You just forgot to clean your glasses or missed your 6.48pm jhaad phoonk dose.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Have been on all kinds of soup.

    A dash of brandy in the soups will do a world of good. Why must the doctor know about it?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    1) Modi may win the legal battle and I am sure he will but as far as perception is concerned, he can never shake off 2002 riots blot. NEVER.

    He will win the legal battle,as the SIT report says no ‘prosecutable evidence’.

    He had a chance until few years ago – to express remorse and apolgize for failing in his constitutional and moral duty to uphold the law and order, which he failed to do so then. That opportunity has been lost – now it would be looked at with suspicion.

    2) “The only way he can win PM is when BJP gets majority on its own and I don’t see that happening for at least for next 20 years”

    By then it may too late for him to take a shot at it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    By that time, Ravi may have his closure on Gujarat riots ;)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    Stupid useless people have become PMs of this place – Gujral, Chadeasekhar, Gowda, Charansingh, VP Singh…

    Aam admi wouldnt care a shii about 2002. Media may go on, but it all depends upon counter strategies he uses. The way I see it, he has to clearly shake BJP out of the present morass

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    First, it is not a question whether stupid useless people have become PMs of India. If they were indeed stupid and useless (and that is debatable) then that may be the reason as to why they did not remain in office for long. Only 5 people have completed their full terms or more as PMs.

    Second, Modi may be eminently suitable to be the PM of India, the problem is taint of 2002, which he has to remove it legally and otherwise (Rajeev says the latter not possible), you may blame Teestas, Sinhas, Congress and others till the cows come home. The fact that they seem to be winning is to be noted, as he is still stuck in Gujarat.

    Third, the RSS (no one else has the authority) has to decide whether Modi is indeed their man to lead the charge in 2014 and it will have to consider the political equations within the NDA – given the fact that this is the age of coalitions, before giving its blessings. Rajeev has already alluded to the attitude of the allies.

    A ‘fond’ hope has been expressed here that Modi and Jayalalitha (with other names like Naidu and Nitish Kumar being thrown in the ring) will make an ideal and unbeatable combination at the centre. People saying this do not know the Empress of Poes Gardens. If you recollect, some months ago Advani and Modi were in Chennai to attend a function organised by Cho Ramawamy. They had sent a word that they wished to meet her and she did not grant them the audience. Socially, that was not right on her part, surely she could have found 30 minutes to meet them and heavens would have not fallen, but then that is way she operates and probably ’sent’ a subtle message across to all and sundry.

    She is playing her cards close to her chest and keeping her options open. She is amenable to dine with the Congress also. Only time will tell with whom she aligns, come 2014.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev,

    your observations, even after making allowances to your present, purely temporary health condition, leave something to be desired.

    Rajiv Gandhi consciously gave orders to his partymen to “take care” of the Sikhs and the result: 1984 anti-Sikh pogrom. Did it stop him from becoming a PM again? Did his ill-reputation deprive him from getting his Bharat Ratna? Do you now after so many years, consider him worthy of that award?

    So, I feel, if Modi’s destiny leads him to the PM’s gaddi, nobody can stop him, just as nobody could stop nincompoops like Gowda and Gujral coulsn’t be stopped or a Kalam could stop a mighty Sonia Gandhi in her tracks.

    You are also way off the mark about SHekhar Gupta. Nira Radia has shown that famous editors can be made to eat out of her hands and do what she bids them to do. SHekhar Gupta is a leate learner, but he is already there.

    He is by all accounts, as much a congress camp follower as Vinod Sharma or Kumar Ketkar is.

    And Sanjay is where Vinodji is.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev,

    I knew you will not do as I had told you that is why I took few extra on your behalf.
    Believe me you have recovered because of the ‘medicine’ I took.

    Though I would like that Modi should become PM of India but even I think it
    will not be an easy ride from him. He has become slight arrogant and his this attitude
    is alienating him from his supporters. He is creating enemies in his own party.
    Only a landslide victory in Gujarat end of this year will leave no choice among
    BJP decision makers to nominate him as a PM candidate.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You noticed something and mildly termed it as “arrogance”. It’s actually ruthlessness. He is ruthless to the core. Watch his eyes and facial expression carefully in various occasions. You would know how ruthless he is. You guys can’t find fault with him as he is way ahead of others. When you have few leaders in close race with him ( for example Nitish on steroid ) then you can analyse him clearly and his negatives will be obvious. Till then he is going rule the roost.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    People who are not able to make money because of his no nonsense approach are
    calling him ruthless. Any one who tries to compromise his long term vission of Gujarat
    faces his wrath, if that is ruthlessness then he does not seem to care about that.
    This style of functioning may/will become a problem for him in future.

  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    Samar Halamkar’s article on hunger is worth reading. Can we do it here? Make a pilot programme at least in one wealthy city.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have read it. The Brazilain model is interesting – costs peanuts.

    The question is: Are we going to follow the same model? His article suggests that the proposals in NAC’s FSB are not on similar lines. He says that the proposed legislation is worryingly devoid of a framework that will involve local governments and farmers. It is also without a key provision in the original draft — the cafeterias that have been so successful in Brazil.

    I am never in support of doles. The govt. should instead focus on education and creating opportunities for all. The catch here is: if people become literate, would they continue to vote for the family?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Iswar

    You are absolutely right about Congress wanting “dependents” ..

    This reminds me of reading about the strange alliance between conservative born-again Christians in USA and Israel. The born again Christians are the strongest supporters of Israel in US, because they believe in Christ coming back in Israel, and He has to redeem the sinners again — so Israeli Jews will be there as ready-made “sinners” so they can be converted!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    gud question Ishawar. You would notice that all the people here who want to willingly work as naukars and domestic servants are either very servile… ot get some sort of monetary benefit. Some of course have not realised the implication of making India join an excliusive club of Northe Korea, Pakistan, Ethopia and Cuba. Hardly the place India should aspire for.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ishwar;
    I think you have not understood my post fully. I am not suggesting implementation of Brazilian model in toto. There are many good ideas there and cafeteria one is not one of them. But Hey, why not in some shape? I remember, Indian Coffee House, in Connaught Place, where Palika Bazar stands. That was a kind of hip place in those days and people like us, with more ideas and lighter pocket, could have their fill quite cheaply.
    Anyway, I was digressing there. Elimination of middle man by introducing farmers market, in designated places on Sunday or any other such days is one of them. Farmers will be directly benefited. Tah bazari in delhi is similar, though not for foodgrains or other farm produce except for vegetables, no, it is not the farmers but small traders of fruits and vegetables come there.
    You are mixing government, even for a futuristic plan with Congress. that to my mind is not correct. be hopeful that someday in near or far future a more efficient and less corrupt government will be in place and as in Brazil, Lula’s absence will not affect the scheme, by then it should be on Auto pilot.
    Regarding your opposition to doles, I agree with you. We are not suggesting doles here. what I am suggesting is cheap food availability to indigent persons, it is not free. let me put an example. polio and small pox vaccination was in practice, no body was asked to pay for it. That was a national programme. Same, malnourishment and consequent maladies, be it infection or cretinism or genetics, stunted body and mind growth and zillions of substandard human beings, will be a much bigger problem than few thousand crores spent here. In the mean time, Voluntary organizations can chip in by the way of collecting left overs from star hotels,Lavish marriages and even through food banks( very effective in North America). Even, mandir and masjids, maths can chip in with their unaccountable money, after all many orthodox and not so orthodox people are convinced and eager to earn PUNYA by feeding hungary.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    a) Middlemen are necessary evils – can’t wish them away

    b) Govt. offering shops/land to farmers to sell their produce directly to consumers in the cities sounds a good idea, not practical though – where do we have those land/shops?

    c) For a scheme to go on auto-pilot, it should start first

    d) I don’t think there is a significant number of people in our cities (I can vouch for Delhi) who need “sarkari food”. The city takes care of everyone. Those who are capable/willing work and feed their families, others beg but still don’t go hungry

    e) Voluntary organisations are already doing their bit

    f) We don’t need another sarkari scheme which helps the politicians make money in the name of welfare

    I may be completely off the mark in my assessment but we haven’t reach the stage of Greece yet. Most of us take pride in working and taking care of ourselves. The govt. should only bother with providing infrastructure, free education, peace and rule of law. Unlike the Europeans, we don’t want to live in a welfare state.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Would certainly come back for answer. Getting late for dentist appointment.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,
    Samar has great blogs on cooking especially goan cuisine.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Could not understand you here. what his culinary expertise has to do with this article. I love making khichri, which I eat with Papad and Achaar.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I was just trying to highlight Samar’s another side. Sorry for destroying your Zaika ;)

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Hey Rajiiv;
    No bigra jayaka. Love Goanese, and their Fany. ( Not english Fanny).

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you keep spelling Fenny or Feni as Fany then we will draw our own conclusion whether you love Fany or Fanny. ;-)

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Bhai Manohar;
    Ise jaban Pakadna kahte hai.n. Only Feni has not much attraction till it is accomapnied by ….

  • Anonymous

    My reply to Sanjay got deleted..another sign that he is HT insider.

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————
    ~~~ THE REWARDS FOR BEING NAUKARS AND DOMESTIC SERVANTS :) ~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————

    Giani Zail Singh had once boasted that his qualifaication for becoming the home Minister was that “Indira gandhi te ghar vich bhaande maanjan aanda hai…”

    That is cleaning utensils in Indira gandhi’s house. Within one year he was made President of India.

    The Indian Express reprted that Pratibha Devi SIngh Patil immediately washed utensils in Indira’s house.

    Now she is the President.

    Good inspiration for Congressis.

    And now after spending 226 crores on foreing trips during her tenure, after her son was caught with crores in cash…. hear the latest.

    Arnab in now reporting that she is grabbing land equivalent to four football feilds for a post retirement house, all paid by us the people.

    By the way, manohar may watch out. His favourite party’s favourite president … is getting this palatial land alloted from existing bunglows in Pune.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    I do not think there is any constitutional provision for land allotment to ex-Presidents..is the info you have reliable?

    Dont you think there will be a national outcry if something like this is done in the open?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Seeing this on Times now. basic thing is they get teh house built, keep all the NAUKERS and Domestic sevants till they are alive and thie extende family enhoys all the state expenses till they live… maybe till 97.

    The povisions is for a AB Bunglow (type v) house. But Pratibha Patil wants a 5 ace palace.

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  • Anonymous

    The Islamic RIGHT WINGERS in Kerala have forced Chandy to induct one more muslim minister and in north Mulayam has been bullied by Bukhari to get his son-in-law in legislative council. He is also bullying bother father and son to induct more muslim minister.

    I get a feeling that majority hindus are becoming a marginal force in India. The muslim dream of ruling who of undivided India is coming true. Jinnah has finally triumphed over Gandhi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Bukhari is also asking for his share in the pie in UP. Understandably, Azam Khan is not amused. My analysis of UP results suggests that the muslims there would always decide the CM. They have a significant presence in a number of constituency and they vote for the party which is most likely to keep the BJP away.

    I don’t mind. Let the people decide what they want – real development or …?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Between 1991 to 1998 (??), it was hindu who were deciding CM of UP.

    It can be done again but that needs decimation of casteist BSP.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, Bihar is an example. If a credible option is offered, people would definitely think about it. I hope that the electorate in UP becomes more ambitious.

    I never thought the caste/religious combination of Lalu could be beaten in Bihar, but it has happened. Its a shame that the UPites can;t see the change and want to replicate the same in their state.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Then how come they dont ask for a Muslim CM? (or they must eb going for plum slots like PWD, Land Revenue etc??)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    They are a powerful block but not powerful enough as yet.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev

    I commented on this earlier as a tangential item to Shenoy’s comments on Kasab/UPA.

    The UDF (UPA of Kerala) “cave in” to pressures from Muslim League did not get any national press.

    Muslim League is the dominant partner of UDF, they have been demanding a fifth ministerial slot, proportional to the number of seats they have in the assembly. There has been lots of noise from the smaller coalition partners, and Congress itself against this. Finally, Chandy left it to Sonia Gandhi to decide.

    Guess what happened! She agreed to a fifth minister slot for Muslim League. Congress already had a Muslim member among its ministers; so with this additional berth, Muslims hold 6 ministerial slots in a 20 member cabinet (or 30%) – more than their population proportion! (24%)

    Only in India (or may be only in kerala) ! ….

    I have been saying Gods own land is becoming devils land, (not because of this, but there are several complicit terrorist/politician connections)

    India was divided based on the monkey business about proportional representation. It is all circling back now with special quota for Muslims etc

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Same thing is being replicated in Ulta Pradesh (UP). Soon India will become Islamic republic under right wing congress and its right wing partners.

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  • Ravi

    MODI – SHREK-III

    Whatever is the final outcome of all the investigations and any resultant court cases, Modi will remain a divisive leader. Whilst he may enthuse his supporters he converts his enemies at adopt the famous Edvard Munch Screaming pose.

    All the political analysis is pointing to a THREE WAY division in equal measures of next elections results. The king makers in this scenarios will be other regional parties which are already not in the other two coalitions. They are unlikely accept Modi as a PM.

    Closer to the time us liberals will make sure that Modi is presented as SHREK the ogre and a personification of evil. The nation will be told that a Modi administration will be a replica of Hitler’s Germany, with Muslims reduced to the status of non-citizens.

    No amount of bleating from his pet donkeys on this blog – they know who they are – is going to improve his chances of becoming a PM. The best they will achieve is to keep him out of prison.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi

    You may not know the undercurrents of stuff here sitting in UK. Indications are Jayalalitha will accept him as PM (provided him as the leader of BJP will assist getting seats)

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    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    If that is true then I find that I anot alone. Many a political analysts have formed this calculus that Modi is divisive and outside of Gujrat and un-acceptable candidate to lead the nation

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    These political analysts are airing their views while sitting at home. Modi is very
    outside Gujarat also.

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    I hope you do not mind, if I say I respect political analysts opinions over those of people here.

    After all is said and done every body’s opinion is just that, an opinion. Political anaylst’s opinions are that bit more informed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I definitely do not mind. Yes, these political analysts are well informed and some of
    them are biased. It depends with whose opinion you agree .

    Ravi Reply:

    I am sure they are all biased. I pick only those whose biases I share

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Is that true? The way these both have projected themselves, it looks that both of them
    will not accept no. 2 position. Let’s hope they let go their ego and work together
    for the future of the country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yet, the lady does not grant the ‘master’ an audience. When he fasts, she sends her MPs and does not turn up herself. What sort of no. 2 she is – treating the no. 1 with utter disdain?

    Overcurrents, anyone?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    O cmon

    Not again !! Modi Modi rape rape bahut ho gaya…bahut boring hai.

    Respect the supreme court and learn to respect the rule of law.

    Further question yourself. If you want to come close to being a liberal by a kilometre… announce your hatred for Digviansh SIngh who loves terrirsts , for Congress which wants communal divisions, for Osama who wanted to destroy the world.; for Engrich who peddles hafeez Saeed type conversion agenda..

    I thinkyou have to earn your spurs as a liberal and not proclaim it by mistaken self belief.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ????

    Are u on dope?
    Come back again when you’re in your senses again, you dork.

    Where is sanjaydhawan? He has been suggesting some medicines for some people here? Any recommendations for this geezer?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gud one…This jehadi is always high on Afeem-Ganja..Pagla gaya hei bechara.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi

    That is the next part. The first parts are that the BJP has to put its house in order – too many ‘Prime Ministers’ already in the party, have a vision (as I said minus the mumbo-jumbo) and make it public. Just opposing Congress on the rebound on every issue is not going to fetch them votes.

    Swapan Dasgupta has rightly called it the Big Joke Party.

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    Ravi Reply:

    BJP has to first become a Political Party and not just reamain a Religious Party with a single point Hindutava agenda.

    Hindu fundamentalism is just as bad as any other religious fundamentalism. It is violent and regressive in nature.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I have always appreciated your consistency. You never waver from your views.

    Ravi Reply:

    Are you suggesting that I should.

    If so then please enlighten me. WHY?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    No way. What will be the fun if we all start agreeing with each other.

    Ravi Reply:

    Agreed :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Your opinion on Modi is off the mark. Only person who can come between Modi
    and he becoming PM is Modi himself. There is vey thin line between confident
    and over confident, swabhimaan and abhiman. His popularity has made him arrogant
    and because of this many in BJP are not in favour of he becoming PM.
    Riots of 2002 are not going to have any effect on him, on the contrary he may gain in
    popularity because of continuous hounding of him by biased media. He is master in
    converting such things in his favour. He should leave his arrogance aside and start making friends with who really matter in his own party.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely right Mohan,

    What happened in Uttarakhand? The independents and the BSP sided with the Congress because it had one more MLA than BJP (and the Congressis has the CBI danda). Tomorrow, if the BJP emerges as the single largest party, these smaller players would automatically fall in line to be on the right side of the party in power.

    The party should not hesitate in projecting Mr. Modi as its PM candidate just because the prospective/present alliance partners may not like the idea.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Yes BJP should project him as a PM candidate. Whatever may peope say, he is very popular outside Gujarat too.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You noticed something and mildly termed it as “arrogance”.

    It’s actually ruthlessness. He is ruthless to the core and I am not attributing 2002 riot to this. Watch his eyes and facial expression carefully on various occasions. You would know how ruthless he is.

    You guys can’t find fault with him as he is way ahead of others. You can not find any alternative to him for miles. Imagine people speculating Jaya along with Modi ! That tells the sorry state of BJP. When you have few leaders in close race with him ( for example Nitish on steroid ) then you would be in a better position to analyse him clearly and his negatives will be obvious. Till then he is going rule the roost.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    I read your post first time and replied, why are posting it again.?
    And why so much anger, ek do peg piyo shaant ho jaoge
    or you can join me, I just now took my first one.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I thought I replied to you. Then on refresh I saw a similar post from you and did not see my reply. I thought my reply was auto-deleted. Since I always copy my content before I submit, I just pasted here. No extra anger. You have helped me mitigate that part of me.

    Anonymous Reply:

    C mon sanjay

    This does not even qualify as spin, This is just a wide no ball!! Arre bachchon ko sulane ke liye aisi kahaniya sunao, You will only convince Ravi, who will then stop coming to India out of fear !

    Anonymous Reply:

    If Ravi is a bachha I am not sure what you are !

    Foetus ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Excellent.

    Anonymous Reply:

    1) How can ‘blind’ fan(atic)s see, so where is the question of finding fault?

    2) No alternative in sight! Talk of bankruptcy.

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    A person – who is capable of uniting the nation behind a single progressive agenda can only become a successful Primeminister.

    I know you do not agree, but to me Modi is many miles from being a National Leader.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Nothing has changed. We once again do not agree with each other. I would only say
    that sitting far from India you are not aware of ground realities. Modi is very popular
    outside Gujarat .

    Ravi Reply:

    That is not universally accepted by the informed opinion.

    Upon what do you base your assertion.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Hamare jasoos charon taraf failay huve hain.

    Ravi Reply:

    Kya unka naam Gopi Chand hai

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    That was not good one. I have high regards for Gopiji.

    Ravi Reply:

    Asit Sen use to say…Mera Naam Gopi Chand Jasoos Hai. Forgotten the name of the film. You may be too young to know that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    In that case I misunderstood.

    Ravi Reply:

    Look at Bees Saal Bad

    Anonymous Reply:

    That’s why I don’t remember. Who wants to see a movie whose hero was
    Vishwajeet.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    It was “Bees Saal Baad”. that is name of the movie.

    Ravi Reply:

    True. I remembered it after my post and separately posted the name.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    1) “Only person who can come between Modi and he becoming PM is Modi himself”.

    He is. Sad for his supporters, but true.

    2) “Riots of 2002 are not going to have any effect on him”

    So far it has. As for the future, let us wait and watch.

    3) “He should leave his arrogance aside and start making friends with who really matter in his own party”.

    Will he?

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————
    ~~~ WHY SHEKHAR GUPTA NEEDS TO SAY SORRY ~~~~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————

    I have friends and family in the fauj. With dismay I have seen many of them angry at the pillorying the forces have got from the politicans, bueaucrats and in the last few years from the media.

    The last defence Minister the faujis had respect for was George Fernandes, And before that Arun Singh. The rest were viewed as time passers with a personal agenda to out to either favour their own community or make their own wealth. Anthony is viewed as nuetral but not as a popular soldier’s man.

    The media starting from Tehelka has used to Armed forces to sell its copies and get ad revenue throughTRP ratings.

    This is an army which is highly disciplined. It has rushed in soldiers at places where death was certain… like the hail of bullets waiting for them in Bluestar or the the mountain ascent which had to be done in kargil, wherre the rogue terrorist army of Pakistan had taken the ridge positions. And the daily battels on in Siachin.

    I have seen soldiers die where politicians made mistakes. A friend’s father died in Lanka– an operation which Rajiv Gandhi created to divert attention from Bofors. Another close pal died in Assam– a political blunder. Another in Kashmir.

    So why is Shekhar Gupta not apologising for a blunder made? Shekhar is a fine jounalist. I think he should expose the minister and his son who misled him. Shekhar knows about the sacrifices our jawans make… and Shekhar has exposed many a scam. His paper exposed the original Bofors and HDW ceating show of the COngess.

    Cmon Shekhar… get our respect back…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Since you keep repeating, let me repeat myself.

    The ARMY CHIEF GAVE THAT FIRST SPECULATIVE STATEMENT ABOUT THE TROOP MOVEMENT AND ITS UNLIKELY RAMIFICATION THROUGH A PERSONAL INTERVIEW TO A MAGAZINE ON MARCH 15, LONG BEFORE INDIAN EXPRESS RAN THE STORY.

    IT’S THE ARMY CHIEF TO BE BLAMED.

    TELL THIS TO YOUR FRIENDS IN ARMY IF YOU CAN NOT FIND ANY PLAUSIBLE ANSWER.

    Hope the all cap posting helps.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Fine. He made a statement but Shekhar spun the statemtn in such a manner to tar the entire army. Is it not Shekhar and his team going awry?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The Army Chief is not only the source, he spiralled it with his stupid interpretation. He thought he was playing a smart double-edged sword game.

    The Army Chief should say sorry to the Nation. He has devalued this esteemed office.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjayji

    Aisa toh nahin that you are afraid Shekhar would one day eveal the Minister’s name under public pressure…?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Then also it’s the Army Chief to be blamed for starting and then fuelling the rumour. Get it right once for all.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,
    It’s time you shut your motormouth on this topic…bloody babu..enough is enough.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Clunky Lad ! Lie down cooly. Don’t raise your blood pressure too much. If you have something to say on the subject open your mouth, else just shut up. Don’t clunk too much.

    Ravi Reply:

    Is clunking better than belching. Because that is what he had been accused of doing before.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Sanjay;
    This answer is …. You are blaming General unnecessarily. General gave that interview on 15 March and indirectly alerted people, not to read too much into this. And he is to be blamed? by what logic. last time you said that general pre-empted, would you please explain to me, what was being pre empted? No Sir, By any stretch of imagination, you can not blame Army here. It is nervous politicians, fearful of their wrong doings, their misdeeds, who were afraid of a decent organization. I would like to avoid this topic now. Vijay/ Sanjay, bury this topic, like ghar ke bhed ghar mai.n rakho. But we know, what is what.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,
    Dhawan has problem with Gen. because he has not obeyed Congress orders as other generals have done in the past and have become governers of states.

    Gen. J.J Singh is one such character who got rewarded immediately after retirement.

    Dhawan will continue to slam Gen. no matter what you say. All Congressmen care for is total loyality towrads Nehru-Gandhi and if some one strays, he becomes a villain,

    Anonymous Reply:

    The General knew about the movements, specially by those two divisions. One of which, by the latest report, is led by A K Singh, whose son is engaged to the General’s daughter.

    The General faced a very unexpected situation and a very swift reaction from the court.

    Before people could put two things together, the General tried to explain that there was nothing to read about those movements.

    =================================================
    Let me ask you a question :

    How often have you heard an Army Chief, before this, explain a regular army movement ?

    ================================================

    He talked about

    1) the movement

    and

    2) likely interpretation.

    The journalist picked of the lead and followed for details.

    Why am I so harsh with our Army Chief ?

    His public conduct.

    He has come out very poorly by using the media for speculation, throwing tantrum in public, unexplicable behaviour ( used 1950 YOB for promotion, but want 1951 YOB for the retirement ), loose statements ( I am being treated like a Pak Chief, Crores are being sent to defame me ) and deethering on firm actions at the very first instance against the bribe giver and giving stupid statement like ” the offer was vague and indirect and i was so stunned that I could not react”.

    The series of events puts General V K Singh in a very poor light.

    I would hate my Army Chief to come out so poorly in public. So poorly that people even need to work hard to defend him.

    I want to be proud of my Army Chief – somebody who inspire confidence. Gen V K Singh does not inspire that confidence. I am glad he is retiring soon.

    [ Note : I would love to be corrected. If I come across some solid counters to my points, I will change my opinion. ]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The reason the General is being backed here by many is simple – my enemy’s enemy is ……… , without looking at it objectively.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    A better answer ws expected from you. Do not speak in cliches, give your reason. Sanjay is not my Dushman, neither you are nor anybody. Friendship and enemity are vey strong words, used loosely, they have no meaning, used with emotion, they become very potent. Take your pick.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It was never directed at you. Some members and people elsewhere need a stick to beat their primary enemy, it does not matter to them as to who provides it as long as it is provided.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks Sanjay;
    I will keep quiet now as far as general is concerned.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    you are absolutely right.

    Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. The men in the forces are angry and angry like hell at the insults and accusations heaped on them by an insensitive political class and an equally insensitive and also insincere media.

    Look at this duplicitous journo called Sanjay who blithely says that the general is at fault. At fault for what? Telling the truth?

    The Indian army was sent to Lanka just to divert the people’s attention from the BOFORS scandal which was scalding the Gandhi family.

    And you know what the commander of the IPKF said later? He said “we were sent into battle with our hands tied behind our backs”!

    Pallam Raju has accepted that the coup story was given to Shekhar Gupta by an insider in the government. Why doesn’t the CBI come out with the truth?

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  • Anonymous

    goodbye to everybody…

    Mohan Ill check u out at 6,00 … if u r still on the blog… with or without the daru

    Rajeev… dont take mohan;s advice to seiously. Dawai aur daru mein antar hai…

    Sanjay… I dont convince you but maybe deep down u know I am right…

    Gopi… where is the masterly quote from scriptures… on fighting for righteousness…

    ravi… u get it right on old songs and get it wrong in rreading India today…

    Dr mishra… is the yacht trip over?

    Ishwar…. we will bump into each other at Sir Fort one day

    Pankaj… get the roulette table ready in Las Vegas

    Shenoy…. moring cheerfull poetry needed….

    manohar… just watch out, Pratinbh Patil is acquiing land as Times Now reports… (joking man…dont get into ‘I am being abused spin”

    Yahooo !!!!!!!! I crashhhhhhhhhhhh intooooo sleeeeeeeeeeeeppppppzz

    Much much closer to my goal …. of joining bio with physics… by 1 millimetre by staying ont hsi blog for 7 hrs…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    I hate to disappoint you, particularly when you sign off on a “high note” and come back the next morning bright and full of beans.

    We are very fortunate to have a president
    who will soon be Poona’s newest resident

    The word talent means, in Hindi, Pratibha
    she has plenty of servility, but no pratibha

    with defence ki eenten, she is building her kunaba
    where Shekhawat will live with his mehbooba

    the soldiers are crying hoarse, first give us houses
    But the government is deaf, nobody hears their grouses.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gr8 lines !

    Absolutely. The same land could have housed 800 soldiers…

    Imagine 226 crores for JUST for foreign tours. Yahan bartan maanjan holds a special meaning…

    No wonder many people want to be domestic servants of the royal family. Se4rfdom… your other name is congressi…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Holding the mirror to Sanjay Vinod Sharma!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Brilliant as usual.

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  • Dr Mishra

    Shekhar Gupta ”””””””””””

    What is it with YOU Indians? Yes I said YOU, even though I am one, kind of.
    Why this exagerrated respect for seemingly nice looking people? Why cant they be dissected?

    I refer to Vijay and many others here saying Shekhar Gupta is a fine journalist. This Gupta actually called Zakir Naik the rock and roll star of Islam. The same Naik who tries to justify both apostacy and blasphemy.

    The same applies to Purie and his India Today. They invite Musharraf- the butcher of our men in Kargil- repeatedly, pay him handsomely and fawn over him. Would never happen here in UK.

    .Whither Indian nationalism ? And intellectual analysis of the unemotional variety? I feel nauseous

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    Dr Mishra Reply:

    Make Dr Mishra PM. I would take Gopi & Rajiiiv & Balwinder praaji- 3 guys who never fawn, think straight and we would sort India out.
    And yes, Gujrat- Godhra notwithstanding, I would swallow my unease and take Modi. His persona is disturbing, but the man delivers.

    India. like this blog, has too many wishy washy characters. this VK Singh story is a damp squib, the real story is being played out on the western border. Bilawal and Zardari and Imran- that is where we shud be concentrating

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  • Anonymous

    Wah upar waale yeh mohabbat bhi kya cheez banayi hai toone

    Tere hi mandir mein
    Tere hi masjid mein,
    Teri church tere hi gurdware mein
    Tere hi bande
    Tere hi saamne
    Rotay hain
    Tujhe nahin
    Kisi aur ko paane ke liye.

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  • Anonymous

    I know Ravi is pissed with Gen. VK Singh..The reasons are obvious but why is Dhawan so mad on General?

    Dhawan holds brief for Congress just like Sharma/Prahalad/Prabhat but they were no so open about their support to corruption. May be they are finally showing their true colors in the form of Dhawan.

    Also wondering why Ravi looks for men to console him…Balwinder use to call him Kudi or Jankha…something like that.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Sorry to disappoint you clunky lad and supreme belcher.

    Ravi doesn’t know who VK Singh is, and to my knowledge I have written not a single word about him.

    However, go ahead as you always do, vomit here.

    You have written nothing but lies here for the last year and a half.

    You are a lier.

    I challenge you to provide evidence, if you do I will retract my words.

    Until then YOU ARE A LIER

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    Ravi Reply:

    So no evidence wrt to VK Singh.

    Just reiteration of previously told lies.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    spelling liar wrongly makes him truthful.

    Using capital letters in bold print and spelling wrongly!

    What will your handlers say?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Right in the morning you have started faning a tandoor !
    Old habit dies hard !!

  • Anonymous

    All my replies to Ravi are being deleted by his latest thurki lover Dhawan…

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    Ravi Reply:

    Ha Ha

    To the moderator….please continue to remove all such posts which contain nothing more than personal attacks and blatant lies.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is all you can do..post lies and then ask moderator to delete rebuttals..what a Jankha!!!

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    Ravi Reply:

    You are the one who has been lying for the last 18 months.

    Anonymous Reply:

    is this your best (or worst)?

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Rajeev;
    Ab itna hasana bhi Achha nahin hai.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Pankaj

    So you think that was funny? Amazing what can make people laugh.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ravi, Ravi
    Again you are so sensitive. why you can not take things lightly. It is not life and death struggle we are having here. Imagine, moderator is being called Thurki Lover, of a seventy year old Ravi. do not you see fun here? I said repeatedly to sanjay, You and many more that I love you, does it mean anything bad?? Not at all. Think about Punjabi plays at Sapru house and their funny titles. I am disappointed that you took the whole thing rather seriously. By my hasana, I was not laughing AT YOU, not in the least but the picture projected by Rajeev. All of you are my friends and nothing personal here about love or hate, we may dislike or like ideological stand, but I will not go beyond that. Life is short, Just enjoy it. you abuse me and I will enjoy it. Do I like this language, no, but I can presume that my stand was strong enough to make that person react so strongly. I like Rajeev’s raw energy, but it does not mean I hate you. Aur bhi gam hain duniya main mohabbat ke baad.

    Ravi Reply:

    Pankaj

    I am sure you not so long ago were trying to moderate this blog. Encouraging people to stick to the point and avoid unneccesary personal attacks.

    cherd chard is one thing but casting aspertions on some ones character is quite another.

    I am sure you know what I mean.

    I have taken no stand on VK Singh, simply because I do not know who he is. Yet I am baselessly accused of condemning him. Which I did not. Same applies to all other fabrications.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,
    You don’t know who is Gen.VK Singh but know all about Kayani…What a pathetic liar!!!

    Yaar raham karo…You have crossed all limits of Nautanki. Your ***-hiq can take all this B.U.L.L but not us.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Fake Mona Sardar,

    Actually, by censoring Rajeev’s replies to you Dhawan has made himself the laughing stock of the bloggers. It is okay ifd you don’t find it funny.

    Anonymous Reply:

    May be you need to borrow a scissor from your tailor master and feel empowered. It’s so early and you have started seeing ghosts !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Just few hours and you have started being clunky !

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  • Anonymous

    Dakkhan oops Dhawan uses Clunky word a lot. Looks like he come from family of Kabadis. No wonder he is so clunky…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That Clunky word was specifically for you. You finally discovered your source !

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  • Anonymous

    Well, I am going to sleep.. Was a long night; went to the archives of India’s partition, two nation theory…..

    Something of “importance’ happened here in kerala; with a potential collapse of the Congress led coalition ministry. This has not got any coverage in our national/secular press.

    Congress (at the behest of Sonia Gandhi) decided to give another (5th) ministerial slot to Muslim League, so they have proportional number of ministerial births.

    The state congress president, Ramesh, after announcing this, had the audacity to say that Congress will not yield to any communal pressure.

    The non-Muslim league Muslim minister (belonging to Congress) did not paricipate in the swearing in ceremony. So also many other Congress and leftist MLAs because of the blatant communal leasing/appeasing.

    Chandy (a fellow Christian) gave away the home ministry to his Hindu minister Radhakrishnan to “appease” for adding another Muslim minister.

    The country was partitioned because Congress did not want to get into proportional allocation. 65 years later, another congress president has decided proportional distribution is Ok for cabinet allocation.

    UDF has only a razor thin majority (2 seats). Muslim League obviously knows they can push. But it looks like they have pushed a little too much. They have opened the doors for leftists to come back, sooner than the next general election.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Did you have a problem with Modi giving tickets to Muslims in municipal elections (and many winning) held in the past one year in Gujarat or that is par for the course, because it is done by ‘one and only’ Modi?

    Your post here talks of Muslims, Hindus and Christians, but not of Indians.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I’d let Gopi respond to your primary question.

    In the mean time, you also say:
    Your post here talks of Muslims, Hindus and Christians, but not of Indians. Reminds me Khurshid, Digvijay and Chhote Malik’s stunts in UP?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    You have completely missed the thrust of my response. Do you realise what I have been trying to discuss with him.

    I have already lambasted the Congress leaders for it, if you care to know. Two wrongs do not make it right. Go back several blogs and search for yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Facts:
    1. Ravi supports Islamic terror.
    2. Justifies terror against India and US.
    3. Claimed to be hindu, followed by sikh…
    4. First he was a sikh..then became Mona Sikh..
    5. He doesn’t have a cell phone..uses office computer to post
    6. He is an old man in 60s (picture posted by him tells otherwise).

    With so many lies under his belt, I must admire his shamelessness…What a LIAR!!!!

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  • Anonymous

    Pankaj,
    What are your views on COUP attempts reported by Shekhar Gupta?
    1. Do you think Shekhar Gupta made an intentional mal-reporting or was he misled by a high profile Congress minister and his son?

    2. Do you think Gen.VK Singh is guilty of fanning COUP rumours for his vested interest?

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Coup by Indian Army is unthinkable. As I said before, I am flummoxed with this, and that too from Shekhar, of all the people. Do not have any clue about congress leader or his son. During last few decades, things have changed drastically in India. But Shekhar?? Again, I am clean bowled.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The indication from Govt. insiders point towards a senior minister whose son is an arm lobbyist.

    No name was given out. The people like Dhawan close to the establishment can probably name that minister accurately but they won’t…Mataji ke dande se sabki ph@t-tee hai.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay, according to his own claim, is a ghost. And ghosts have neither body nor voice.

    But, even when he takes the human form, he will only sing the tune orchestrated by thew Janpath band.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ghost…Kabaadi ghost..Collecting joote chappals from 10 Janpath for his living ;)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ghosts are in the eyes of beholder. Perhaps you need to share the jhaad phoonk dose with our clunky lad !

  • Anonymous

    It was too good to last.

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  • Anonymous

    The flip side of fighting graft
    André Béteille, Professor Emeritus of sociology, Delhi University, and National Research Professor.

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article3308315.ece?homepage=true

    The attack on corruption should not turn into disregard and contempt for institutions.
    ———–

    Most people I speak with are convinced that corruption has increased enormously in the last decade or two. But a decade or two ago most people were saying much the same thing. I have no desire to minimise the extent of corruption in India. But is it greater in range or depth than corruption in America? Or in China?

    We all know that there is a great deal of corruption in the production and sale of school text-books in India. But Richard Feynman has told us how, when he started looking into the production and marketing of school text-books of physics in the state of California, he could hardly believe the evidence of corruption he found before him. I am not sure that corruption in the medical profession or the legal profession, shocking though it may appear to be, is demonstrably worse in India than in America. But in India when people point their finger at corruption they point mainly to government and politics.

    ———-

    In the Constituent Assembly it was Dr. B.R. Ambedkar who saw more clearly than any other member what was at stake in the transition from alien rule to self-rule. While welcoming the advent of independence, he said: “But let us not forget that this independence has thrown on us great responsibilities. By independence we have lost the excuse of blaming the British for anything going wrong. If hereafter things go wrong we will have nobody to blame except ourselves.”

    ———

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  • Anonymous

    Great news.

    Supreme Court upholds RTE Act
    J. Venkatesan

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article3306454.ece?homepage=true

    The Supreme Court on Thursday by a majority of 2:1 upheld the constitutional validity of the Right of Children to Free and Compulsory Education Act, 2009, which provides for free and compulsory education to children between the age of 6 and 14 years and mandates government/aided/and non-minority unaided schools to reserve 25 per cent of the seats for these children.

    =====

    A comment from the news item

    Ah !But nothing will change in the elite schools of Chennai. Muslim wards will NOT be admitted to National Public School Gopalapuram (and Bangalore)., DAV-Gopalapuram, Vidya Mandir, ROyapettah, Padma Seshadri Bala Bhavan and others. The gates of these Schools will remain closed for Indian Muslims. You need a Mass Movement to pull these gates down. Something like what Ambedkar did in Sangli., forcing open gates of the temples !

    from: Suraj B.

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  • Anonymous

    Pankaj,
    To understand Ravi and Dhawan’s chemistry, watch movie “Ek Chalis ki Akhri Local” scene where Mangesh Bhai gets over friendly with Nilesh..

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  • Anonymous

    Clunky Lad ! If you want to know what you have done to this blog in last few hours, then go through pages of last few days while you were away from the blog.

    I always told you you might have some problem with your education and you are always too eager to prove that.

    Perhaps few days in bed and you have got junk all over. No wonder you start making clunky noise. What you need is a generous amount of oil.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    As I said, it was too good to last.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinodji,

    I would like you to recall what happened this time last year, when the tu-tu, main, main, between you and Rajeev went to unseemly extents and you forgot the exalted position you hold in Hindustan Times and came down to the street level of Ravi and engrich (who was then in his avtar of Ram Autar), merely to show that when it came to abuse, you could be as abusive as these jihadi abusers.

    Why then are you holding him alone responsible for calling a spade a spade?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    kamaksha Prashad,

    Stop fanning tandoors. There will be no problem on the blog. Once a while deviation will vanish in no time.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,
    A request. Let it pass . Focus un-necessarily deviates from discussion.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Agreed.

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  • Anonymous

    Good morning guys.

    Humans get scared and resort to sticks and stone when they encounter a real snake while pouring milk on a stone image of the same snake.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Shenoy

    Sorry the reply jumped right at the top.

    The whole thing will de-motivate people from joining the army. It is insulting the guy who faces the bullet on your behalf.

    All because they feel VK SIngh may join hands with Ramdev or Anna after retirement. So cook up a supernatural grand conspiracy theory of Hindu right wing- bjp- anna- isreal– US… all the masala in the Congress conspiracy kitchen.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If a “serving Army Chief” of this country gives out a feeling that he might join hands with Team Anna, then he deserves to be condemned with harshest words.

    Are you devaluing the army chief by your so called support ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Sanjay

    The chief never gave this feeling. It was the COngrss paronia which created this feeling. On this blog you had jumped with joy that Kejriwal and V K SIngh were contry cousins both from Hissar.

    All the spin, but the batsman hooks for six.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If the chief did not give this feelling, then do not speculate. You keep harping this point.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,
    What is wrong if the army chief – in his retirement – joins politics of whatever shade ? Did I miss something in your reply ?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Or is made an Ambassador.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Given the “chemistry” in recent months – that appears very un-likely.

    Ravi Reply:

    In this particular case that may well be true. But Vijay has made this point yesterday, as a part of his anti congress rant.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You missed the operating phrase – “the serving Army Chief”.

    I do not think there is any harm if an Army Chief gets re-employed like any other ex-serviceman or join any political party.

    Anonymous Reply:

    that is a very kind, lucid policy statement!

    Anonymous Reply:

    you will also hold the “serving army chief” guilty of misdemeanor because he learnt yoga from Ramdev?

    But it is alright if Indira Gandhi gave free entry to Chandra Swamy for teaching yoga to her?

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  • Anonymous

    Mr Sanjaydhawan wrote ” The ARMY CHIEF GAVE THAT FIRST SPECULATIVE STATEMENT ABOUT THE TROOP MOVEMENT AND ITS UNLIKELY RAMIFICATION THROUGH A PERSONAL INTERVIEW TO A MAGAZINE ON MARCH 15, LONG BEFORE INDIAN EXPRESS RAN THE STORY.”

    Shekhar Gupta’s story appeared on April 4 . Markandey Katju , the loose cannon ,( from my school in Allahabad ) said yesterday that IE investigated it for 11 weeks before publishing it. That in the course of verification regarding the movement of the troops , IB alerts, the Defence Secy’s response , the call to Army’s DGMO , the IE spoke to many undisclosed sources in the Army , Ministry of Defence , , other govt departments etc. Is it not obvious that Gen V K Singh would have come to know that such a story is on the anvil.
    And what is most important Pallam Raju MOS Defence himself confirmed that the information to IE was given from within the government.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    True Parveen Great points. One can now firmly conclude that the SOME Congressies in their race for power and kickbacks could go to anylenght– even tarnishing the army– for their personal games.

    Shekhar Gupta allowed himself to be used– willingly or unwillingly– that is Part 2 of the story.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rumour floats all over.

    The Army Chief, the most authoratative voice, gave the “Credence” through his statement.

    [ Now, we have brought in a new character ! Interesting !! BTW, when did the movement happen?]

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  • Ravi

    All

    So a whole day has gone and I am yet to see any evidence upon which it could be said that I condemn VK Singh – as so boldly proclaimed by RajeevS.

    Having made a completely false allegation, he is now trying to shift from VK Singh to Kayani. I have never ever ventured any opinion on Kayani either.

    RajeevS has been fabricating lies about me for the last 18 months, ever since I endorsed Vinod Sharma’s summation about his behaviour and called him a – B E L C H E R.

    He seldom makes any points of his own but jumps in with full blown personal attacks on other people who are having a normal conversation and a proper debate.

    RajeevS you are a LIAR.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,
    “Ignore” Is Bliss – right ?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Mahesh

    I have been ignoring for the last year or so and may ignore again.

    But there is a limit to how long an individual can ignore. There comes a time when one has to retaliate agianst these fundos who have no debating abilities of their own but attempt to ruin the blog for the rest.

    Stand by: For the airing of old chestnut of Dalit Rapes from the other fabricator.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Your “debating skills” are so brilliant, they impress a grand number of three! Was that also why Vinod Sharma nearly expelled you after expelling Tajender? So that you can save his blog from being “ruined by the rest”?

    Ravi Reply:

    Nearly expelled me….is one of you new Summer Fashion. Has the master cutter impressed you.

    Ravi Reply:

    Nearly expelled me….is one of you new Summer Fashion. Has the master cutter impressed you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    He forgets that he is one of the two, whose posts are being subject to moderation – the ignominy of it all.

    ‘besharmi’ bhi koi cheez hai.

    Ravi Reply:

    He has no sharm.

    Such is the urge to slap that even truth is cast aside to make way for a swing.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But in your case, your walrus mustache comes in the way of uttering even the simplest of truths. Cheap imitation has its price.

    Ravi Reply:

    Cheap imitation moustache is better than guanine Saffron Terrorism.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    You were supposed to write your views on employment which you had promised
    Manohar and Vinay few days back. How long will it take you to write your thesis ?
    I am eagerly waiting for that. Please oblige.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Maalik,
    Just stole a few minutes from work. Will write something to Manohar on FDI mostly today late evening.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    Just one question. Should I read your thesis before I start drinking, during or afterwards. Leave it don’t answer, I will read after few pegs because my mind becomes
    sharp after few drinks and I will have no problem deciphering your thesis.
    Please don’t disappoint me, I will be very eagerly waiting.
    Thanks in advance. (: (:

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    try to understand, yaar.

    Mahesh needs a lot more time, so that he can make his post sufficiently long sufficiently difficult for poor bloggers like us to understand it.

    Ravi Reply:

    Even then a doubt remains if you will ever get it.

    Your anger blinds you everything other than RSS propoganda

    Anonymous Reply:

    Then there is that deficit.

    Anonymous Reply:

    why did Vinod Sharma expel Tajinder and was kind enough to give you another chance to keep “belching” on his blog?

    why did you refuse to give your phone number or even your location?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Tejinder was explelled purely because of a campaign of intimidation and black-mail led by YOU.

    Why should I give my telephone number. How many other people have given their telephone numbers here.

    Why don’t you publish your telephone number. I will give you a call.

    Let me once again repeat because both you and Rajeev do not believe this.

    I have O N L Y one mobile phone. It is a phone that has been provided to me by my employers and they will take a very dim view if I was to publish its number on the web.

    My location is England. I live 20 miles west of London and 6 miles west of Balwinder. 250 miles South East of Dr Mishra and 50 miles north west of Dr Shan.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Lest you forget, I have already given my phone number, e-mail ID and I often receive calls from friends on this blog.

    Your long explanation about some company frowning upon it is a whole lot of hog-wash.

    Rest of your post is all oft-repeated bleating trying to prove that you are not a jihadi as most believe you are, but a well wisher of India, particularly Dalit women, which nobody believes.

    Ravi Reply:

    In that case you will not mind repeating it for me and I will give you a call from a public phone boot.

    That is because there remains a chasm of trust deficit between the two of us.

    Most believe that you are Saffron Terrorist and I do not care what you or your cronies believe about me.

    Most of what you spout here is little more than Hog Wash.

  • Anonymous

    .————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ WHY THIS GOVERNMENT DESERVES A KICK IN THE BUM ~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————-

    For some time I am playing a game of psychological evaluation of Congress supporters. What is it that makes them blind to such gross de- valuation of public life, standards and ethics.

    a) My first qustion was why should India follow the path of North Korea, Pakistan, Somalia, Saudi Arabia, Cuba in mortgaging the state to a few royal familes, instead of making ourselves a participative democracy like UK, US, Russia, Australia and 130 countries of the UN.

    I got no convincing answer except the figleaf cries of BJP being bad.

    In short Modi modi– rape rape !

    b) Scam after scam has shown that this government is willing to sacrifice the institutions of the country, to save itself or create a path for kickbacks. Leave aside the big ones like 2g and mining, the true colors have shown everywhere. Whether it was the CVC appointment of the corrupt, and now a bid to tarnish the entire army just to show V K Singh in a bad light.

    NO Congressi has any answer for this, except unconvincing folk tales.

    c) Sadly and shrewdly, the Congress has managed to get the entire media to crawl and beg for alms. Katju is one danda. Ads is another. Rajya Sabha seats is a great inducement. And some mysterious factor which came out in the Radiia tapes.

    So much so that the media too has become a domestic servant. So I dont expect answers from the media.

    d) And then my favourite question. Why has the Indian National Congress, a national jewel become a pvt ltd company of a family and its sycophants.

    No Congressi or its supporter has given any answer !!!

    My Psychological game conitues. Cmon Sanjay, Cmon Manohar….

    Do you think these are relevent questions? Or maybe you dont want to answer them honestly…

    Jaane bhi do yaaron….

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    Ravi Reply:

    Vijay

    I distinctly remember Manohar replying to this very same question a month or so ago.

    His answer was, that it is the FAMILY that seems to holding the Congress Party together, in their absence it may go through a phase of self destruction before a new order may emerge.

    However, I get the feeling that you know that and that is why you are so anti FAMILY because you are under this delusion that if you were able to destroy the family then the destruction of the Congress and therefore secular politics will automatically follow.

    Path will then be clear for the HINDU RAJYA to be set-up. That is your real passion and real motivation. The rest are just your crude tactics.

    You did ask for an HONEST answer, did you not?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,
    BJP’s frustration is two-fold. A person of firang origin and that too a woman (a big no no for the “Sanskaari Purush” persona it so fondly borrowed from RSS) as a leading political adversary . Second part being – their own inability to come up with any real challenge.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The first part gets more prominence because of the 2nd part.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon Sanjay

    Deep inside you know that you have not answered the real issue.

    Why this slavery di
    Why this scam worship di

    Why get BJP into the picture ji???

    As a salesperson… you always sell the product on positives. Not on spin stories of others in the market.

    Anonymous Reply:

    See the reply to the original post from Mahesh.

    Read. Re-read the Post from Mahesh to which I replied before you decide to reply to my post.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mahesh

    I am willing to swear on oath that I want my country to follow an inclusive democratic path, away from family worship and slavery… and a road where strong institutions deliver quick comprehensive justice.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “inclusive” ?

    What all does it include ?

    Or, is it defined by what all it does not include ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    One, Modi worship for sure. Not sure what else does that ‘inclusive’ include.

    Anonymous Reply:

    A woman who has been derisively referred to as a (lowly) waitress and this same waitress has given such kicks to the highly educated, highly qualified and holding no mean posts or practising high flown professions (viz BJP leaders) that it really hurts causing extreme discomfort.

    Whether she is fit to be a the congress chief is debatable.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well I think you are suffering from a paronia that you see all people who want honesty and democracy in public life as proponents of Hindu Rashtra. In your view, becasue Tony Blair did not put Cherie onto the seat, he is probably a proponent of Hindu Rashtra :)

    The COngress did not self destruct between 1990 – 2003, when it was away from family worship. When a child grows up and steps out of the house he learns how to swim or sink. So will the Congress, once freed from teh yoke.

    I think you should get over the obsession that secularism is a monoply of the COngress. You have become a victim of COngress spin.

    India has to move i the group of US, Russia, UK, France… and not North Korea, Somalia, Saudia, Pakistan.

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    Ravi Reply:

    I think your Tony Blair jibe was a cheap and totally ilogical jibe.

    What do you think will be the electoral prospects of BJP if it was the sever its links from the mother ship.

    I believe that opposition to the Congress comes ONLY from the Religion focused Hindu Elements, hence I will ignore your paranoia wise crack.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Maan gaye aapko. Kahaan se kahaan pahunch jaate hai.

    Every where you see RSS and Hindu Rajya.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Just like you see the FAMILY every-where. After all Sangh Parivar is a FAMILY of a kind. It behaves like a FAMILY.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But the “family” of the congress party is of the Italian kind!

    Remember ‘Omerta’ etc.?

    Ravi Reply:

    Family of the Sangh kind is fascist.

    Remember that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But the family, headed by the daughter of a fascist foot soldier is not fascist?

    Ravi Reply:

    No it is not. You know it. RSS chose fascism.

    Ravi Reply:

    Family of the Sangh kind is fascist.

    Remember that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Indian cricket survived after Gavaskar and Kapil Dev and it will survive after Tendulkar.
    Congress members should come out of this fear that they will disintegrate if they
    don’t carry name of Gandhi family.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    Gavaskar and Tendulkar did not control Indian Cricket. They were its stars but its governance was in the hands of other people.

    I am sure that the Congress will survive after the family, but that does not mean that the anxiety is not there.

    Intra party politics is a funny game, Indira used to play it well, even better that JLN did.

    For as long as the party at large sees the Family as an asset it will stick with it, the moment they become a permanent liability the party will change

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    you are right in respect of Indian cricket.

    But, the servile mentality is ingrained in congressmen for decades.

    Several decades ago, I saw a photo in a paper, of S.K.Patil, the Bombay strong man of those days, bending down to tie the shoe laces of Nehru’s shoes. (Perhaps he might have wiped the shoes with the sleeve of his achkan, before knotting the laces. If we had TV in those days, we would have known for sure.)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Fake Ravi,

    it is only brain-washed jihadis like you who suffer from megalomania and delusions of being able to destroy a timeless entity like Indian nation.

    From Vijay Kumar’s posts, nobody can get the impression that he is out to destroy either the congress or the Family.

    But, yes, he is a strong votary of congressi Indians shedding their boot-polishing servility and mortgaging their souls to the family deities.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Better than licking the boots of Shalwarpehankar and Golimarkar

    Ravi Reply:

    Better than licking the boots of Shalwarpehankar and Golimarkar

    Ravi Reply:

    What do brain washed Hindu Fundos RSS cahalaks like you delude about. Ram Rajya.

    Anonymous Reply:

    far better than deluding yourself about Soniarajya.

    Ravi Reply:

    By your own admission, we are in Sonia Rajya. Whilst Ram Rajya stays in your tiny brain.

    Anonymous Reply:

    First time I heard about this Sonia Rajya. What is it?

    Ravi Reply:

    It is everything that the proposed Ram Rajya will reverse.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,
    Larger part of the problem that I see with your post is – you are viewing Congress in isolation. Isolated from the entire established political class. Once you do that – you start viewing the rot in very very narrow and person dependant terms. Once persons become focus – all sorts of innuendos start flowing. Problem with this is – people start believing that mere proverbial “change of guard” will fix the issues. Essentially leaving the policy matters out of discussion and scrutiny – an assumption that could ,at best, lead to severe dis-appointment.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mahesh

    I would not view the Congress in isolation … but as a role model it has become for some other parties, especially the regional ones which have become family enterprises also.

    For me, a party like the Congress between 1990- 2002 was aparty which moved on policy. The obessesion with family values takes us back to the pre 1947 era when families owned states, before Patel amalgamated them all.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh

    It seems the only ray of hope they see for the BJP to get hold on to levers of powers is to get the Congress out of the way. The resident ‘RSS astrologer’ here had thrice predicted the disintegration of the UPA and the BJP sleep walking to power. The last prediction was to happen in February in the year of our Bhagwan 2012. He must have looked at the wrong charts (that of the BJP!).

    Who care of policies! It is one point ‘common minimum programme’ – get rid of the family.

    The Congress has given gift wrapped opportunities in embarrassing abundance to the opposition (read the BJP) in the last two years, but as Gopi has rightly says they do not even know how unwrap the boxes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    I will give you the answers.

    Modi is a mass murderer.
    Yedurappa is corrupt.
    Bangaluru Laxman took a huge bribe of Rs one Lakh
    Advani’s name surfaced in Hawala.
    Barbie masjid was demolished by RSS workers.
    Petrol pump and coffin scams during BJP rule.
    BJP tried to demolish Tehalka.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks Mohan

    You given an answer in sarcasm– an art you know best– and in my opinion it is very effective.

    I think the Congress stand of negative answers with little to speak about themselves, speaks a lot.

    They should rahter reform and become a democratic party which chooses people… not fall down in obscience to a family.

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    Ravi Reply:

    You mean just like BJP should sever its links with the RSS and become a proper Political party than a joke Religious Party.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well so you are implying that Congressis ki domestic servant mentality is because of RSS.

    I think MOhan should add it to his list !

    @ MOhan

    Ravi ji now says that becasue of RSS, Congressis do chappal worship of the royal family.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Is this how you operate in general ?

    Do or say something,,,,then attribute it to somebodyelse?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon guys… my query was honest.

    Give me a gaali… no problem. I have a skin thick enough and a smile wide enough to get it out my ears.. :) :)

    But unfortunately go to rush to site…

    Client ka bulawaa aaya hai
    Duty ne bulaya hai…

    C u after a break.

    Ravi Reply:

    While you are being driven, give some thought to not rushing to unsustainable rash conclusions. For no other reason other than when you belittle some one, you belittle your-self too.

    Ravi Reply:

    How did you come to that conclusion. Have you been taking lessons from RajeevS.

    All I meant is that BJP too has a servant mentality, in this case it is little more than Domestic Servents of the RSS.

    Surely you know that. You choose to ignore it because you are nothing if you are not partisan.

    Stop making cheap irrational conclusions. You are better than that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But you don’t see this “servility” when the upper caste Hindus, all members of BJP and RSS, rape 5000 dalit women daily in India?

    Ravi Reply:

    Mahesh

    Please note, on cue the Dalit Rapes comes out. This bankcrupt FUNDO has nothing new to say.

    That has been the state for a long while.

    Anonymous Reply:

    you have been quoting this historical Wendy-gem for so long, why do you squirm when I hold the mirror to you?

    Ravi Reply:

    It has 999 pages, while to go yet. You could not hold the lapel of your tight lungoat let alone a mirror

    Ravi Reply:

    Great book you should read it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    you have been quoting this historical Wendy-gem for so long, why do you squirm when I hold the mirror to you?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nice Collection. Refreshes memory well.

    As I said you always have the best collection !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yaar, aap to bahoot kuchh sach bol gaye. Yeh sab kuchh huaa thaa.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    you forgot two non-scams the BJP had created: Bhopal Gas tragedy and BOFORS. In both these cases, unnecessarily two great friends of India, both foreigners incidentally, were hounded and subjected to mental torture and even human rights violations. I am referring to Herr Anderson and Senor Quattrocchiiiiiii.

    Both these gentlemen wanted to stay in India and help in its development with their vast knowledge and experience in International finance. But the BJP hounded them so much they had to reluctantly and hastily leave India.

    In fact, a friend in the congress party of those days told me, under strict oath of secrecy, that Senor Quattrochchiiii had even told Rajiv Gandhi (privately, of course) that he would help India bring back huge sums of black money hoarded in Swiss bank accounts.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    I will need whole day to prepare a list of scams of congress. I don’t want to waste my
    Friday – a holiday here – for this purpose.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    No need to prepare such a list, it is all in the public domain – all parties and politicians are ‘ek hi khet ki moooli hain’

    Enjoy your weekend.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good one.

    We must always work on “things that come first and easily” to our mind.

  • Anonymous

    Not Bad at all for a change ! India is discovering the stuff we had never known…

    Not funny: Prof, neighbour arrested over Mamata cartoons

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/WestBengal/Not-funny-Prof-neighbour-arrested-over-Mamata-cartoons/Article1-839847.aspx

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Nothing to be surprised at all, it is all part of ‘poriborton’.

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  • Ravi

    Familia Sagrada

    A recurrent theme on this blog is Vijay’s obsession with the Gandhi/Nehru family. It is often presented as an anti-democratic force which exercises a debilitating control over a Historical and National Political Party. There may well be an element of truth in this assertion but it is repeatedly blown out of proportion in a transparent attempt to induce anti Rahul/Sonia feeling. This is a known Sangh Parivar trick. It takes attention away from issues and policies and focuses it on personalities.

    Nearly just as often is provided the standard retorts that after all there is another family which also controls politics in India and that is the Sangh Parivar (Family). This family has also made sure that it has major control over its children, of which BJP is one. As a result it has not allowed the BJP to grow into a responsible fully fledged political party able to take its position on the right of the political spectrum. At the apex of the Sangh Parivar is the RSS, a regressive para military style party which has a stated objective of pushing back the Indian society into a medieval Bharat.

    You choose which family you like the best.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi

    I ‘prefer’ the desi one, because it has made sure that there is no place in its hierarchy for waitresses, cooks, chaprasis, naukars/servants, boot polishers, coolies, etc. Without them, the ‘parivar’ so pure and exalted, which gives me a ‘heady’ feeling – no daaru required. <(; ;-)

    That is one 'reason'. Then there other reasons too. which I will elaborate some other time.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Yes that is true, and these also of darker skin?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Yes that is true, and these also of darker skin?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi

    I ‘prefer’ the desi one, because it has made sure that there is no place in its hierarchy for waitresses, cooks, chaprasis, naukars/servants, boot polishers, coolies, etc. Without them, the ‘parivar’ so pure and exalted, which gives me a ‘heady’ feeling – no daaru required. <(; ;-)

    That is one 'reason'. Then there other reasons too. which I will elaborate some other time.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gori Italian family is far superior to dark-skinned Indian male-dominated families.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gori Italian family is far superior to dark-skinned Indian male-dominated families.

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  • Anonymous

    Mamta arrests the professor.

    Sharuh Khan is held at an airport (apparently a small airport without immigration staff; he landed there in Mrs Ambani’s plane, they must have thought here is another rich Arab terrorist)

    Talking about Ambani — is he fudging/covering up the natural gas potential of krishna Godavari basin?. Ambani says they will reach only 34% of its production target, due to unexpected geological complexities. That the gas is not in one reservoir, but in various pockets —- is he holding this reserves for a better tomorrow? Does the govt have technical capabilities to verify his “difficulties’. ?

    Coming to gas/oil, our imports have more than tripled in five years from $30billion in 2006 to $98 billion in 2011 (and on track for $140 billion for 2012). This new info from reliance will add further to this by import of natural gas.

    And then there is $30 billion in subsidies for consumers.

    And we are wondering that the GDP growth is slowing.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    Why just another rich Arab Terrorist, rather than a rich Arab coming to have sex with underage girls. Have we moved away from that seam of othering of Muslims.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    No. Because now the rich Arabs come to have sex with under age boys too.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “Mamta arrests the professor”.

    The professor should have ‘known’ better – how can one draw a cartoon of a ‘cartoon’? Hence, the police had to take action.

    ————-

    Excerpt from SRK saga

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Shah-Rukh-Khans-detention-US-apologises-India-talks-tough/articleshow/12648019.cms

    “Whenever I start feeling too arrogant about myself, I always take a trip to America. The immigration guys kicked the star out of stardom,” Khan said with some sarcasm addressing the students at the University.

    He added that he always has his “small victories” even in such circumstances.

    “They (immigration officials) always ask me how tall I am and I always lie and say 5 feet 10 inches. Next time I am going to get more adventurous. (If they ask me) What colour are you, I am going to say white,” Khan said.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    Gas/oil imports

    We need to use them more judiciously. One way is to charge the market rates so that people are more careful in their usage. Rationing and other measures are not required.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Reason of Shah Rukh khan being held at a US airport was because of his movie
    RA-One. The immigration officer wanted to take revenge of the torture he had gone
    through when he saw that movie. SRK wa lucky that he was held for only two hours
    where as people had to go through the ordeal for three hours watching his movie.

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  • Anonymous

    We had been discussing the the way the newspapers have carried stories which were were “false” , “alarmist”, “baseless” and we discusssed this in the context of the Indian Express front page story on 4 April 2012 which appeared under the byeline of the Editor Shekhar Gupta. We all know that story has been denied by the PM of India and all concerned authorties. We also know that that the MOS Defence conceded to the media that it was motivated and at the behest of someone from within the govt. The story has been strongly criticized for its ramifications . Shekhar Gupta however still maintains “that he stands by his story “.
    I also recall there was another story , and in the Hindustan Times , which appeared under the byeline of its Political Editor Mr Vinod Sharma on a CD allegedly containing conversation between Shanti Bhushan and some politicians. When questions were raised by the readers and people at large , the story was vehemently defended that the CD was duly verified at a proper laboratory. We all know the outcome of the police investigation , how that case has proceeded in the criminal court at New Delhi and the last order passed by the court. Surprisingly again, the still Paper stands by its story till this day as no withdrawal or an apology has appeared so far.
    We hold the media and especially the two newspapers in high esteem but pray that if they go wrong then atleast they show some humility and take corrective action . We are confident that they shall act in public interest and not as a handmaiden of some vested interest.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Neither politics nor media is here for service. The common motive is to attain power and money. The netas and the journos live off each other.

    Its a sorry state of affairs. I am yet to figure out a practical solution to this menace.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar, yah tum kya keh rahe ho!

    Don’t you know about the great boon to the garib of India, the daridranarayan, MNGRega?

    There was not a single paisa to be stashed in Swiss bank accounts, still Mataji thought about filling the pockets of the rural unemployable.

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  • Anonymous

    Praveen

    “media in high esteem”…..it is an oxymoron.. May be during the days of BG Varghese, Sardar KM Panikker etc

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  • Anonymous

    @ Shenoy

    In case the country was made democratic and institutions not destroyed or bent to support family rule … we could have caught Quotraochi with his pants down. Possibly we would have caught him from his pants… and he would have run away leaving his pants and purse behind… shouting out Eureka Eureaka… at the Delhi Airport.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In the event, he could only smile at the stupidity of the Indians and utter silently “Sonia Gandhi Zindabad” till he reached the shores of Venice.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    Institutions are the key — unfortunately most of our institutions are left over from a command/control system designed to support a remote King, and not for the people. We rewrote a constituition, but institutional charter for most part remained the British way designed to marginalize people. We did not remake, remould..so we have IAS babus who manipulate people (and manipulate ministers) — let me tell you, more than Congress or BJP creeps, the bigger problem we have is with these bureaucrats and outdated institutions, and believe me, no politician has the guts to take it over.

    My niece in US says that there is no “state’ ‘central” bureaucarcy there – airports are owned by the cities in which they operate, police is under the mayor of the city, there are no district collectors that get moved around, schools are part of the town/city system and hence school headmasters and teachers are not moved around etc .Universities (even the state funded) are not part of the government with political appointments..apart from all other benefits, this eliminates the “transfer bribe” we have so common here, just recently 1500 senior govt guys were transferred in UP (I am sure a part of it is to collect bribes for the party).

    Nothing will change as long as the institutions are part of the governmnet reporting to a ministry- Congress will play its tricks, BJP will play its tricks, both will use the instituitions to their ulterior goals…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well written and insightfull. In case institutions did their job well, so muc of hour turmoil would have been quelled. I think we need to learn

    a) How to create institutional charters which are effective

    b) Mechanism which clean the systems and are immune to political interference

    This really is a brick by brick job. No recent government has shown this kind of interest and resolve to undertake this venture..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    It is a brick by brick job. Movements like Anna Hazare are the prime inducers for this, but as you know all parties have suppressed it.

    Do you know the election commission has put ina request to the parliament (for almost 15 years now, each commissioner requests again and again) to bar individuals who have been sentenced for jail incarceration or individuals against whom there is active legal cases from contesting elections? Nobody acts on that. How will institutions get rebuilt/restructured if hey cannot act on such a simple thing?

    As I expressed before, I wish the army movement rumour was true and the army took over.

    May be the root cause is that we won independence without spilling blood…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Frankly Gopi army rule in India will never cme and will not provide any solution. Ultimately institution building will probably come in case some bureaucrats with talent are trained “hands on’ in the government offices of UK and US and their methodolgy implemented here.

    In engineering we have somthing called codes of practice. All the procdures are detailed and you just have to follow them. In government offices they are conduct codes but they are made in such a manner that the inefficient and corrupt canot get punished as the law takes its own damn time… of years and years.

    We can tap on work cultures of organisations run people like Azim Premji and narayanmurthy and get that culture into government office.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    “May be the root cause is that we won independence without spilling blood… ”

    Wasn’t that wonderful?

    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    So why was the character of these institutions not changed when BJP was in power.?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    What you have suggested is precisely wat we have discussed many months ago – filter down the authority to village/town/taluka/district levels and let them manage their own local affairs. The monsters in state capitals and in Delhi can be reduced by more than half.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Agree with you. The system stinks. It should be changed. Period.

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  • Anonymous

    SC asks Gujarat govt to stop probe against Teesta Setalvad

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-asks-Gujarat-govt-to-stop-probe-against-Teesta-Setalvad/articleshow/12648811.cms

    The Supreme Court on Friday asked the Gujarat government to stop any further investigation into the case against social activist Teesta Setalvad for her alleged role in illegal exhumation of the bodies of the 2002 riot victims in Pandarwada, saying that it is a malafide case.

    However, Gujarat government said that the chargesheet in the case has already been filed and the offence is made out.

    “The offence is made out,” senior advocate Ravi Shankar Prasad told a bench comprising justices Aftab Alam and Ranjana Prakash Desai.

    Prasad gave the response when the bench said, “you must have read the FIR in the case and the FIR itself was a violation of human rights.”

    “We are thoroughly dissatisfied in the manner the FIR was lodged and the allegations contained in the FIR. The FIR is in violation of human rights,” the bench observed.

    ————

    Read on.

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    Ravi Reply:

    This is damning of the highest order

    During the last hearing, the bench had said that it was a “spurious” case to victimise Setalvad and this type of case does no credit to the Gujarat state in any way.

    This is not SIT but the Bench itself who is saying this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There are lot of other things that has done no credit to the Gujarat government and its chief minister. On the contrary – Gujarat government and its CM stand discredited on host of issues and events.

    This is not the first either that the courts slammed them and will not be the last for quite sometime to come.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    Do you think Modi will cancel all cases that he maliciously started once he becomes a PM.

    Or will the courts do it for him, long before that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Why would he want to do that? He is in for a fight (justified per se) against people who have been after him – a duel if you like. Let the courts decide what is malicious and what is not.

    Now that is a trillion rupee question re: Prime Minister’s chair and Modi? the answer depends upon whom you ask.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cases would continue to be filed. Judges would continue giving their observations. No problems there.

    No one is untouchable. Or, are you suggesting that Teesta is above law and no one should file any case against her.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Which bit of malicious prosecution did you not get.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Has Teesta never been reprimanded by the courts for producing false affidavits and tutored witnesses?

    Ravi Reply:

    I do not know, but that is not the point you were making. The SC judges clearly stated that this case was one of malicious prosecution. Good men do not do that.

  • Anonymous

    @ Ravi

    New Spin or maybe you people actually believe this. That RSS is like the Gandhi Parvar.

    Cmon. Both the RSS and Rahul G/Sonia G camp will be after you for this !!

    The RSS to the BJP is probably what the COngress Seva Dal is to the COngress. Unfortunately in the COngress, all the seva , the dal does is for the parivaar of Nehru and his progenies.

    My humble question is, in case Churchill had said , “after me… my son… after him his son… after him his daughter…”

    Or Margaret has said, “Goodbye to all… but aI am handing the reins to Dennis… who will give them to Mark and who will further hand over the party to Lucy…”

    Would not England have remained stunted?

    Think about it when you look into your eyes when you shave. **

    ** Famous words utered by Gen Sundarji to a person accused of Bofors kickbacks.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Vijay

    You may wish to believe that Congress Seva Dal is involved in forming the Policies of the Congress or involve in choosing its President, I do not.

    Congress Seva Dal is a child organisation of the Congress, whereas the RSS is the parent organisation of the BJP and controls evey single element of its operations.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If it is a child then the cuture of the organisation must be rotten to produce such a child. See Pankaj’s post about the seva Dal…

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    Ravi Reply:

    That is not the point either you or I made. RSS is nothing like Congress Seva Dal is the point.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But be careful not to slice the walrus mustache.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Pathetic cry of a Saffron Terrorist

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “—-The RSS to the BJP is probably what the COngress Seva Dal is to the COngress…..”

    -

    I hope you never sat for CAT ! The questions on reasoning would have got you look for cover !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How about this primary school stuff to begin with?

    Match the following

    1) 5 + 5 a) 55
    2) 10- 6 b) 14
    3) 2 x 7 c) 10
    4) 15 / 3 d) 5
    e) 9
    f) 18

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    Anonymous Reply:

    O my god… such s the devotion for being a family naukar that you have started counting numbers!!

    I am sure some catharsis will happen in my psychological excercise. Either you will for ever declare that you want India to follow North Korea, Cuba, Somalia and Saudia…

    Or deep inside your heart you know Vijay is right… but under peer pressure you have to support Ravi, Sanjay and see RSS even on your ceiling fan :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    You boss, I Naukar.
    You win, I lose.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I not boss

    Only gandhi parivarwalla can be boss..

    Anonymous Reply:

    India, by its very size and size of its problems, will become the lead member of this group.

    We can name this new group SINKCUS (Somlia, India, North Korea,Cuba and Saudia)

    Anonymous Reply:

    “deep inside your heart you know Vijay is right”

    Yes, Heart Surgeon.
    You win, I lose.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Err… are you so upset with Sundarji’s words for rajiv?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Do I sound like being upset ?

    if you say so, then I will refer you an appropriate Upkar guide.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon Sanjay

    All the primary questions remain unanswered and I get a hail of RSS, hindu rashtra, BJP invocations.

    Well what would have happened if Abraham Lincoln had announced

    ” a government of the people… by the people… of the people,,,, BUT HEADED BY MY SON… GRANDSON… GREAT GRAND DAUGHTER….”

    And then proceeded to get an army of dynasty worshippers….

    Anonymous Reply:

    All your “primary questions” have been answered with “primary colours” many times before.

    All your “bogey questions” now are for the “secondary causes” only.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Vinodji will always smile and occasionally he will laugh too, even when the discussion is on rape.

  • Anonymous

    Shahrukh Khan’s detention is a shame. US should take it easy and get real that it loses goodwill around the world.

    But here is the funny side…

    Dear US of A, Stop detaining Shah Rukh Khan like this. He takes it out on the rest of the world with stuff like, My Name is Khan. Pleaseee

    Shah Rukh Khan was questioned for 2 hours about the logic behind the new dress of KKR cheerleaders. #IPL #SRK

    RT @iKabirBedi: Shah Rukh Khan should carry DVDs of “My Name is Khan” & distribute them liberally to questioners at US airports. Sorted!

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  • Anonymous

    Cartoon a conspiracy, prof an offender: Mamata

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Kolkata/Cartoon-a-conspiracy-prof-an-offender-Mamata/Article1-840108.aspx

    ——–
    The cartoon in question can be seen there.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It happens to many people when they are not ready for the prime time. They do not know how to handle the success.

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  • Anonymous

    Irrepressible Mr M J Akbar is at it again.

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/india-today-editorial-director-m-j-akbar-on-zardari-india-visit-manmohan/1/184312.html

    He concludes his article by quoting an SMS:
    ‘Zardari told Dr Singh over lunch that he was as sincere about curbing terrorism as his host was about ending corruption.’

    I wonder why Mr. Sharma’s piece is as interesting a read as his!! And Mr. Sharma is supposed to be a specialist on this Indo-Pak issues.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Perhaps Mr Sharma and Mohan need a beach break together !

    -

    [ Ofcourse, mr Sharma needs to pay the bill. ]

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    Anonymous Reply:

    :-) :-)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Perhaps you wanted to say :

    piece is NOT as interesting

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    Why my name popped up from nowhere.?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Who else can help Mr Sharma develop a bit of sense of humour ?

    I thought an all-paid beach break will do you good too !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Iswar–

    Akbar put it aptly…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gr8 article Ishwar.

    Allah ho MJ Akbar !!

    Akbar is gr8 !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi, Ishwar, Vijay Kumar,

    some are born great, some achieve greatness and some have greatness thrust upon them.

    while MJ is a little of the first and a lot of the second, Vinodji belongs to the last category. A large part of the credit for this “thrust”, however, we may legitimately lay a claim on.

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  • Pankaj#1

    Vijay;
    I am surprised. You are mentioning Congress Seva Dal and RSS in one breath, in same sentence, in same paragraph??? Do not you have no memory of Congress Seva dal, which accompanied Sanjay Gandhi, wrecking havoc on railway plate forms, looting Vendors and troubling women folks?? You are comparing RSS with that Organization. so sad.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Please forgive him. It’s only the rush of adrenaline !
    God promise, he does not know what he is doing !

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Sanjay;
    You certainly are deft wielder of straight or curved blade. You also know, how to throw a knife holding it backwars.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Swam a full flooded river everyday to go to the other side just to practice that in my youth !

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Sanjay;
    I am impressed. These city dwellers have no idea, what it is to live in villages or braving flooded rivers. reminded me of Soni and Mahiwal. Anyway, it also reminded me of a small story, which defines, what a professional is like: In this story, this guy was a contract Killer or say a hatchet man. When approached by a customer to get somebody bumped off in a jail, killer said, no problem. How you want him dead, by hanging, poison or gun. customer looked at him thoroughly and said, are you mad? this guy is in maximum security prison and you are not only boasting of killing him but also telling me how this killing should look like. Killer said, that is OK. I am a PROFESSIONAL. Hats off to this professionalism. Gave me goose pimples.

    Anonymous Reply:

    They are surprisingly fatalist too.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    You are master of your ‘Fun”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    They are surprisingly fatalist too.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am comparign the two. Congress seva dal represents congress culture.

    If someone says that RSS represents BJP.

    The seva dal has had real rogues. We all know that. Of course sevile Congress domestic servants probably see them as the answer to India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Many a time people put some bread crumbs at the last moment in a gravy to lessen the saltiness. We understand the problem.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    So finally we all agree on something. That the seva Dal is basically a goonda organisation, created for promoting dynastic succession.

    First the dynast nominates the seva dal leaders. Then they heil him back. Right out of Saddam hussain’s people’s revolution and Gadaffi’s socialism of the green book.

    That is why I always insist that India’s path is that of Lincoln… not Saddam, Gadaffi or Kim Sung 2

    Anonymous Reply:

    if you are the chairman of a board, then perhaps you will never need a Quorum !

    You will propose, clap yourself , sign and announce as accepted !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Beautifully put! That is what happens in the COngress office evey second day… when they announce that Amul baby is the right choice for PM !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Then you are a perfect fit there in the Congress office…

    Why are you wasting time getting confused with the relationship between RSS and BJP ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I can consider the Congress office… if I have a chance of the Rajya Sabha ticket…

    On second thoughts… NOTHING will make me do sycophancy…

    Ravi Reply:

    Then why don’t you stop it??

    Anonymous Reply:

    Beautifully put! That is what happens in the COngress office evey second day… when they announce that Amul baby is the right choice for PM !

    Anonymous Reply:

    So finally we all agree on something. That the seva Dal is basically a goonda organisation, created for promoting dynastic succession.

    First the dynast nominates the seva dal leaders. Then they heil him back. Right out of Saddam hussain’s people’s revolution and Gadaffi’s socialism of the green book.

    That is why I always insist that India’s path is that of Lincoln… not Saddam, Gadaffi or Kim Sung 2

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    Sounds similar. Different Location, though.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    AKA Never say die. You are sincere.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well Seva Dal did thier riot act in many a location one has heard…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    Ab kyaa karoo.n – aadat se majboor hoo.n ;-)

  • Anonymous

    Hum hawa nahi jo kho jayenge,
    Waqt nahi jo guzar jayenge,
    Hum mausam nahi jo badal jayenge,
    Hum to aansu hai
    jo khushi aur ghum dono me saath nibhaenge.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sonia Rjya is a genuine gem ! just patent it !

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  • Anonymous

    Mr Thomas-

    I do not think government has any plans to audit the disclosure made by Reliance about the low yield of KG basin.

    However, the oil/petroleum import needs will only continue to increase, even if the KG basin yields as predicted. The $40billion increase in imports from last year is an eye-opener.

    The food situation, luckily, is the exact opposite. We will have a record crop again this year. But as usual, we will not be able to store all this bumper crop — you may remember the opposition brought this up two years ago. Nothing has changed after all the chaos and complaints about food getting rotten for the want of storage, after all the promises of modifying the distribution/storage systems.

    200 million people will go hungry, although 17 metric tonnes of food will get rotten for the lack of facilities and distribution.

    We will have another bumper crop, estimated to be 251 Million tonnes thanks to our patriotic kissans. 7% of that will go waste, resulting in us being at the lower range of the world hunger index. We were 67th out of 81 countries in the 2011 report on hunger.

    Problem of plenty, problem of little!

    PS; I can imagine MJ Akbar next column ” MMS and Obama discuss/complain about their airport security issues, and Obama telling MMS “it is like your corruption problem”! They just cannot get their TSA processes right! (in fairness, I should disclose that I did not have any issue with the immigration authority in any of my 15 or so trips there after 9/1,1other than in the first trip after 9/11. It may be because my name is not khan!)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gr 8 post Shoeb. Will need a considered reply. we are at crossroads.

    Need strong action, effective governance. We have instead become a dynastic republic of scams…

    Frankly MMS should revolt and then a lot of patoes can support him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    Bumper crop but no storage facilities. This we are hearing since last two years.
    I wonder why government is not trying to build more stores and simultaneously
    we hear that FDI will solve this problem. Is there something we are not able to
    read between the lines. FDI will build storage facilities, there will be no wastage of
    food grains that’s why we have no choice but to allow FDI.

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  • Anonymous

    Mr Thomas-

    I do not think government has any plans to audit the disclosure made by Reliance about the low yield of KG basin.

    However, the oil/petroleum import needs will only continue to increase, even if the KG basin yields as predicted. The $40billion increase in imports from last year is an eye-opener.

    The food situation, luckily, is the exact opposite. We will have a record crop again this year. But as usual, we will not be able to store all this bumper crop — you may remember the opposition brought this up two years ago. Nothing has changed after all the chaos and complaints about food getting rotten for the want of storage, after all the promises of modifying the distribution/storage systems.

    200 million people will go hungry, although 17 metric tonnes of food will get rotten for the lack of facilities and distribution.

    We will have another bumper crop, estimated to be 251 Million tonnes thanks to our patriotic kissans. 7% of that will go waste, resulting in us being at the lower range of the world hunger index. We were 67th out of 81 countries in the 2011 report on hunger.

    Problem of plenty, problem of little!

    PS; I can imagine MJ Akbar next column ” MMS and Obama discuss/complain about their airport security issues, and Obama telling MMS “it is like your corruption problem”! They just cannot get their TSA processes right! (in fairness, I should disclose that I did not have any issue with the immigration authority in any of my 15 or so trips there after 9/1,1other than in the first trip after 9/11. It may be because my name is not khan!)

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  • Anonymous

    Mr Thomas-

    I do not think government has any plans to audit the disclosure made by Reliance about the low yield of KG basin.

    However, the oil/petroleum import needs will only continue to increase, even if the KG basin yields as predicted. The $40billion increase in imports from last year is an eye-opener.

    The food situation, luckily, is the exact opposite. We will have a record crop again this year. But as usual, we will not be able to store all this bumper crop — you may remember the opposition brought this up two years ago. Nothing has changed after all the chaos and complaints about food getting rotten for the want of storage, after all the promises of modifying the distribution/storage systems.

    200 million people will go hungry, although 17 metric tonnes of food will get rotten for the lack of facilities and distribution.

    We will have another bumper crop, estimated to be 251 Million tonnes thanks to our patriotic kissans. 7% of that will go waste, resulting in us being at the lower range of the world hunger index. We were 67th out of 81 countries in the 2011 report on hunger.

    Problem of plenty, problem of little!

    PS; I can imagine MJ Akbar next column ” MMS and Obama discuss/complain about their airport security issues, and Obama telling MMS “it is like your corruption problem”! They just cannot get their TSA processes right! (in fairness, I should disclose that I did not have any issue with the immigration authority in any of my 15 or so trips there after 9/1,1other than in the first trip after 9/11. It may be because my name is not khan!)

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  • Pankaj#1

    Sanjay;
    You are rightfully there, where you are. Rest of the bloggers are indeed kids in the garden.

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  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    I feel kinship with people like Kamran Shafi. Rather than with Scums, which are thriving in India now a days. Read him at Tribune, – Damn the Siachen- But in all, Pakistan is the villain of undoubted perfidy. Damn the ruling Establishment in Pakistan and to a lesser degree, in India.

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  • Anonymous

    Malayalam new year/Assamese new year; Assamese customs/Malayali customs

    OK guys, tomorrow is Malayalam new year – Vishu. The Assamese people also celebrate their new year Bishu tomorrow (or today?)..

    Many communities in kerala follow the matrilineal/matriarchial system (property passing from mother to daughter, mothers ancestral last name/caste (such as Nair, Menon) used by male children instead of father last name etc).

    Many tribes in Assam, such as Khassi, Garo, also follow matrilineal sytems.

    Is it possible that Assamese people migrated to the old Malabar region or Malayali people migrated to the Assam region thousands of years ago?

    Any insights will be interesting…

    Happy Vishu to all! May the next year be peaceful!

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Gopi;
    I can not comment, who migrated where and how, but it is known scientific fact that in Mitochondria in cell, basic cell, that genes pass unaltered. nothing to do with Father. Viva, Matriarchial system.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Tomorrow is also Baisakhi, the festival of Punjab too. For Bengalis it is Boishakh. In Nepal Mata Tirtha Snan (Mother’s Day). Perhaps it is also celebrated in other states too.

    Here is something interesting

    Vaisakha Masa is the month that follows Chaitra Masa. As per the Hindi calendar the (adhika) Vaisakha Masa has started today. V becomes B often in many languages. So we have Baisakh as an alternative name for Vaisakha.

    The Jewish month of Nisan, matches the South Indian month of Chaitra. The full moon of Nisan is our Chaitra Pournami. For the Jews also this is the first month of the year just as Chaitra Masa is the first month for us. (Of course they too have their own adhika or intercalary months.)

    On this day (some or all) Jews celebrate the beginning of Passover. The Hebrew Pesah, Pesakh, Yiddish: Peysekh, Paysakh, Paysokh are variations of the word Vaisakha or Baisakh.

    ————-

    Vaishakh is the second month in the traditional Hindu lunar calendar. Vaishakh Month in North Indian calendars in 2012 is from April 7 and ends on May 6. Vaisakh Mahina in 2012 in calendars Gujarat, Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka is from April 22 and ends on May 20.

    It is the second month in North India – especially in Uttar Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Uttarakhand, Rajasthan, Haryana, Bihar and Chhattisgarh. It is also the second month in traditional calendars followed in Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka. In Gujarati Calendar it is the seventh month.

    Vaishakha Mahina is a holy month and is associated with Lord Vishnu and is noted for the month-long Vaisakh Snana (holy bath) in important rivers and sacred teerths.

    Parushuram Jayanti and Akha Teej or Akshya Tritiya are some of the important auspicious days in Vaisakh month.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks Manohr, quite informative.

    Malayalam calendar, kolla Varsham, starts tomorrow. (the difference between this and the Christian calendar is about 800 years after teh christian calendar).

    I believe only Kerala and Assam celebarte the day as their respective new year.

    Any insight into both regions following matriarchial/matrilineal systems?

    The Jewish reference is interesting — a Jew has to come through his mother, born; not converted…Jews migrated to Kochi around 400. I just wonder whether the matrilineal sytem of kerala came from contact with the Jews. (they were white, and I am sure our ancestors must have been enamoured by white people!)

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    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    Are you sure that Jews that migratedn to Kerala were white. My understanding is that they were lighter skined but still brown, much like the Iraqi/Syerian population.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi-

    good question –
    The history is that the first wave of Jews came to Malabar coast after the destruction of the First Temple by the great emperor Nebuchadnezzar II around 400BC. The temple being in Jerusalem, it is a safe assumption, as you indicated, that they were brown (the colour of the people in that part at that time before crazies started settling – I wonder if any brown is left theer!)).

    Then in the later years, hundreds of years after that, there were spice trading white Jews who settled in Kochi- they were not the persecuted ones just like the first wave or not running away from a bad emperor.

    I had a classmate Elias, who was white like Europeans. He is settled in Israrel; however, came for our reunion. We had a good discussion on how they control USA

    Anyway, it is all mind boggling, how people traversed zillion miles in rickety boats!

    BTW I read an interesting piece recently – that two English generals who fought Gen Washington in the American independence movement came over to India – one became the general for the Nizam and the other for the Nawab of Lucknow.

    Ravi Reply:

    Jews from Eastern Europe (Ashkenazi) are white, the rest are mainly the same skin colour as Arabs from that part of the world. They may still be fairer than the native Keralites.

    I have worked with both kind and have also had a Jew from Israel whose parents came from Kerala. I have also have had a request from a woman worker who wanted to go to Cochin for two weeks to clean and tend to Jewish graves which are now all but abandoned.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Another interesting thing, nothing related to Jews, is that kerala is the only place (I think) in India who do not celebrate Diwali ..(although in the recent years there have been isolated celebrations in cities like Cochin and Kozhikode).. I have not been able to find out (??) how come one region got left out from a “national” celebration.. Was it because of the mountains (Western Ghats) blocking things coming in? But, if so, how did other stuff come in???
    Questions, questions ..

    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    My speculation, controversial as you may find it, is that Ramayana is a Northern Epic and therefore Diwali has been celeberated there for a lot longer than it has been in the south.

    Furthermore, Kerala under the Namboodripads always have had a slightly differnt version (more authentic) form of Hinduism.

    Happy to be corrected if I am wrong.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    I don’t know whether all Muslims follow this but Arabs can choose whose name they
    want to adopt. Maternal or paternal it is their choice.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    My knowledge on this subject is almost zero. In fact, I learnt something new today itself, when I googled to get the above information. It will be interesting to know more about it. May be you can ferret more information on it too.

    Anonymous Reply:

    hAPPY VISHU GOPI !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Happy new year.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,
    Happy new Malyalam year.
    Now that we have been sparring for quite some time. Here is a leftist Mallu joke for you to cherish.
    Lock up couple of leftist Mallus in a room and a new Left Marxism Leninism proclaiming party is born. Guaranteedly this new leftist party will spend its entire lifetime denouncing the entire remaining left.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    the blog censor doesn’t approve of even New Year Greetings from me.

    Here is once again WISHING YOU A VERY HAPPY VISHU.

    (By the way, it is Tamil New Year day too)

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  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    Feeling a bit lost. All my compliments and comments are not so straight. Want hangama. Silence is deafening.

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    Ravi Reply:

    ख़ामोशी है जुबान ऐ इश्क हफीज

    हसन अगर बदगुमान न हो जाये

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Hey Ravi;
    Where you are. Friend, do not take things seriously. Tum se baat karne mai.n maza kuchh aur hi he. No subterfuge here.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Pankaj

    Thanks for those kind words. I am Okay. I thought I provide enough genuine material which any one can attack me on, it saddens me to see that people feel the need to invent stuff just so they can have a cheap shot at me.
    I hope you enjoyed the sher, on the theme of Khamoshi

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ravi;
    Do not feel disheartened. No body can control every body. Meethe ke saath Namkeen, khatta, and Karwa make a full cusine. If I start speaking about culinary delights, I believe, Vinod will also ask me, for few tips.

  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    Was let loose at comparatively younger age on world stage. i can assure you all, our best are better than rest. Education? Sansakar??

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  • Anonymous

    ~~~ just for fun… DO BONGS HAVE IT IN THEM ??? ~~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————–

    Where is Ashish and where is Shan?

    Where are their gr8 comments on Mamta’s firman?

    Bongs make the best critics everyone tells me
    Arts . politics, culture shulture and even economics

    But… when it comes to a cartoon…
    The CM sends a platoon !!!

    Cmon guys.. tell her to laugh at herself once while
    We laugh at her actions all the while !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    you are right, the bong perspective is missing from the blog.

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  • Anonymous

    Pankaj, Mohan, Ravi, Sanjay and others

    Something to entertain – Old time hits of Madan Mohan and Lata Mangeshkar

    1) Mohar(1959) – tum ho saath

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5YSJFsmOD8

    2) Baap Bete (1959) – dil unnko uThaake de diyaa

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNmZfjbp1Do

    3) Fifty Fifty (1957) – chal diya dil meraa toD ke

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdjrc6LQDTk

    4) Railway Platform (1955) – chaand madham hai

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFaTZ4vi9mI

    5) Samundar (1957) – aajaa kahin se aajaa.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTp_gmN_PLU

    Enjoy

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    Madan mohan and Raja Mehandi Ali Khan. Unbeatable combination. period, as far as I am concerned.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree. However 4 of the above songs are by Rajinder Krishan and 1 (Railway Platform) by Sahir.

    The lyricists of that period were one better than the other.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Rajinder Krishan was a swell shair. I will not say anything about Sahir. Not competent enough. Mera wazood kafi kuchh, Indian films ke saath juda hai.

    Ravi Reply:

    Rajendra Krishan won 1 Lakh Rupees on a bet on horse racing…which led him to stop writing for films.

    Rajendra Krishan was a very good lyricist, whereas Sahir was a great shayar.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Tahnks for nuance.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    these two songs from Madan Mohan’s Baghi (1953) are really outstanding pieces of poetry and melody:

    1.karke badnaam aur neendein haraam kahan chalaa gayaa….

    1. Hamare baad ab mehfil mein afsaane bayaan honge, baharein hum ko dhoondenge, na jaane hum kahaan honge:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cvoR91p29g&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLB7697A133799CFDC

    http://www.mp3hungama.com/music/audio//Indian/Indian%20Movies/Baghi%20(1953)/songs/Baharen%20Hamko%20Dhoondhengi%20@%20Mp3HunGama.Com.mp3

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    No doubt Shenoy sahab. And surprise that Madan Mohan had an Air Force back ground but his talent for music could not remain dormant for long. His association with Raja mahandi Ali khan produced some of the most memorable gazals, like in woh kaun thi etc.

    Anonymous Reply:

    A smaller correction.

    It was not 1 lakh. He hit the jackpot worth Rs 48 lacs ( a huge sum those days – late 60s and even today).

    Ravi Reply:

    Thanx for the correction. Rajendra Krishen also wrote Screen Plays, which Sahir did not.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes. He used to write screenplays, dialogues and lyrics – a really multi talented writer.

    Ravi Reply:

    चली चली रे पतंग मेरी चली रे

    चली बादलों के पार होके दूर पे स्वार

    सारी दुनिया ये देख देख जळी रे

    Anonymous Reply:

    Actually, he won the jackpot of Rs.50lac in the Bombay races.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And in 1990 I lost Rs. 500 in
    Bangalore horse races.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ek jaanavar aisaa jisake dum par paisaa
    sar pe bhii taaj hai baadashaah ke jaisaa

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    Rajinder Krishan was indeed a swell lyricist and script writer. But, Sahir was no less. In fact his poetry was the delight of the intellectually inclined, while the tunes to which his poetry were set had huge mass appeal.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shenoy Sahab;
    Aap galat samjhe. Sahir was much bigger poet( shayar), though Rajinder krishan was also multitalented. Sahir with his membership of Progressive Writers Association, was writing also for masses with inqalabi khayalat, through film and print medium. May be he was associated with Theatre as well.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Will never get tired listening these songs.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    Many thanks. I echo sentiments expressed by Mohan and Pankaj.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks for making this hour so beautiful !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am glad you all liked the songs.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Sanjay

    last nagging question before I go to sleep. Gen Sundarji was one of our brightest. Now when he made those nice comments about Rajiv, bofors and kickbacks… did not a section of the Congress stalwarts like Kalpnath Rai, KK Tewari and mani Aiyar (similar to Digvinash Singh, Salman Khurshid and Manish Tewari), try a VK SIngh on him?

    Will wait for a reply before I go for a jog at 6.00… :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The whole Bofors thing is as stale if not worse than 2002 riot.

    So when you wake up, redefine your premise, frame your questions properly in more definite manner with some quotations and references to make the context clear. Else it just sounds a little more like rambling.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    For the pseudo secular brigade 2002 Gujrat riots can never be stale.
    It has been a high yielding milking cow for them.

    Similarly, the congress party may proclaim from roof tops and through pliant media that BOFORs is a dead horse. But, it involved bribes and the takers were Gandhi family members. Therefore, this issue will remain alive till corruption is alive.

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  • Anonymous

    Doctor examined a lady and told her ‘ your heart, lungs, pulse and BP are fine, now let
    see that little thing which gets you ladies into all kinds of trouble’
    Lady started taking off her clothes
    Doctor stopped her ‘ no, No please put on on your clothes
    ..

    ..

    ..

    ..

    ..
    ..

    Just show me your tongue ‘

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Bhaiyye;
    Phir Aap mujhae us forbidden zone main le za rahe ho. Love to go there but…. Rasm, Riwaz and usool!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    I have only one usool in my life and that is I will never keep any usool.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But, the censor has some “usool”, which too is not having any usool and apply the usool to all kinds of posts.

    Dr.Pankaj’s reply to your post has been very arbitrarily censored.

    Once I had posted a bhajan by Mohammed Rafi, which too the censor found objectionable and censored it!

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shenoy sahab;
    It looks like, moderator mahodaya, blind folded ghuste hain aur jahan chahe wahan kainchi chala de te hain. haan aap par jyada maharbaan hai, is main koi shaq nahin.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You naughty boy, where is your joke factory located?

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  • Anonymous

    What is so controversial about it ?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Mahesh

    Who was that addressed to?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You. The North Indian centric Deepavali topic. Postings can really get funny here .

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    Ravi Reply:

    Mahesh

    Gopi is a scholar and quite capable of posting a shloak faster than I can post a sher. So I thought he may find what I am going to say – as controversial.

    There is a theory which says that Ramayana is written from the perspective of Aryans, and that Rakshas are a representation of nomadic tribals as well as Dravidians.

    The Epic celeberates the triumph of Aryans over Dravidians.

    This I thought may be controversial.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Should I interject here. Will not mind. OK. the epic may be North India centric, but, Ravan was given, due respect as a wise person, and a learned person, But for his weakness for a woman, most desirable, it was partly revenge for his sister and partly to his wish to conquer, in its full glory. I have still my sympathy with Ravan. He was but just a human being.

    Ravi Reply:

    Pankaj

    What you say is true.

    But what is your view if it celebrates triumph of Aryans over Dravidians, etc.

    Who in your view do the Rakshas represent?

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ravi;
    Good. you are venturing, where I have ventured, eons ago in my mind. You may be thinking things in present context. This epic was written thousands of years back. yes, thousands of years. In the whole epic, Rakshas were given credit for being Mayavi, that means they knew, tricks, which were not ordinary. Means, they were having great deal of knowledge. Many of them were advisors who told Ravan to desist from, what is not Dharm. You are a grown up man. when a man is aroused, he is prone to leave behinfd common sense and what is right and what is wrong. The whole epic is depicting, what is right and what is wrong. I love Pakistani women, they are so beautiful, but I can not do any thing about it. Thay are there, where they are and I am, where I am .

    Ravi Reply:

    Pankaj

    I thank you for adding to my knowledge.

    However, unless I misunderstand you, do you mean that the population represented by Rakshas has no contemporary survivors?

    Do you think that they are not representatives of the THEN Dravidian Population?

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ravi;
    most of our scientists are from south India. and they are reverred by us.

    Ravi Reply:

    That is true. Most of my team is south Indian. I certainly revere them.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mahesh;
    It was addressed to you. Good guy. Liked it. I still like people with left leaning. Sorry, what my family has endured,by way of being leftist, will put to shame, Budhha deb.

  • Anonymous

    Story of Ramayan is still not over.

    Surpankha, sister of Ravan went to Ram after the war was over and told him
    ‘ what about me, I wanted to marry you or your brother Laman but both of you
    rejected me, people in Lanka do not respect me any more because they blame
    me for this war and distruction of Lanka. You have to help me to rehabillitate’
    Ram told her ‘ nothing I can do for you in this birth, but I promise you that
    you will take a re-birth in Kalyuga and for sometime will rule Ahyodhya
    but because of your deeds of this birth you will remain unmarried’

    Mayawati is Surpankha of Ramayan.

    Good night guys.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That’s conspiracy of the highest order !

    You are lucky that she is not the CM any more. Else, your joke would have got you in trouble like the cartoon on Mamta !

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  • Anonymous

    Manohar,
    FDI Topic…….
    Before anything else – please allow me to set the context in which we are discussing this topic.
    Overall gain in employment was the context we discussed this topic last time – am continuing on the same theme.
    First – let us look at the positions advocated by both the camps (pro and anti Retail FDI folks) .
    The pro-FDI camp has for most part of it cited two specific major gains :
    1> Growth in retail sector – essentially translating to more jobs (some **fantastic** figures exceeding 20 Mn.).
    2> A huge opportunity for farmers (farming sector).
    The anti-FDI folks have mostly been articulating shutting down of “Kirana stores” . Though my anecdotal observation suggests opposition is mostly being
    “powered” by anybody but neighbourhood kirana wallahs.
    While I won’t give much credence to the #2 argument by Pro-FDI (huge opportunity for farmers…) the #1 argument makes an interesting hint. IMHO, this kind of opportunities growth can only come at the cost of existing “legacy retail” . Notice here the anti-FDI guys have been harping overlappingly on the same theme.
    Will this happen ? Let us analyse a bit here…..
    What does the *big retail* basically rely on ? Economies of scale , right ?
    What could possibly limit it from acheiving the desired scale ? Out-reach , right ?
    Given the current avatar of big Retail in India – what does that translate to ? Essentially consumers visiting those large Malls. Isn’t that a bit of self limiting situation for the Big retail ? Large Malls find it difficult to establish at prime locations and hence set up at periphery or near periphery. That limits the outreach of people visiting them . Plus, add to it the running cost of maintaining the inventory . Perishable inventory such as fruits further complicates the whole equation. So, essentially at this point the neighbourhood Kiraana Person or the Sabjiwaali is having fun, right ? Plus your good old Sabji-Waali actually taunts the Reliance / More store by saying how fresh her goods are. So , no conflict so far – correct ? Think again . What about those electronic goods ? And books ? Plus , did I mention those Office Supplies that small guys like us would just walk to the shop downstairs and buy them ? It is this sector that is currently facing the proverbial heat. Big Retail needs to be discerned much accurately in terms of the goods it is selling. Slowly and steadily – if you notice – the small electronic goods shop owners have been losing out.
    Does this stop here ? My guess is No. Remember, over 70 p.c. of the Big Retail is yet to break even. Plus we are already seeing some small players being elbowed out. What happens now ? Wait ’til more consolidation happens – or what ?
    Now step back and look at it carefullly. The Big Retail has has two things – One is scale in procurement and other one in warehousing and inventory. The missing link here distribution and outreach. Is that so difficult that it caannot be achieved ? What will that translate into ? Creating of new market or eating into existing Market ? Plus – given the operational efficiency and throughput – we cannot really expect the same number of people to be absorbed in Big Retail, right ? Remember, a small shop has more redundancy and more employment potential than a much much larger enterprise for similar amount of consumption.
    This is where my trouble starts. Unfortunately enough – we are not seeing too much discussion as well exactlybspelling out the possible scnarios. In short, the devil of details is missing from the discussion in our public discourse. We are focussed on FDI , while the real predator could be Big Retail. FDI or no FDI. Secondly, not too much quantification too. As the economist Abhijit Banerjee would put it – we tend to wallow a lot in hypothetical arguments rather than in numbers.
    Truly hope to be proved paranoid – and just that. But then again, the discussion we witnessed couple of months back in our public discourse hardly inspired any confidence.
    p.s. for Mohan : Please Note.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    Thanks. No jokes at least for now.

    Whenever talks of FDI would surfaces pro FDI would claim that new storage space
    will come up thus eliminating rotting food grains . Middle men would be removed ensuring better price for farmers and cheaper prices for public. I always used to
    wonder why Indian entrepreneur cannot do this, why we need people from outside
    for this. You are right when you say small shops employment potential is more
    then big retailers. Does that mean that this will create extra employment is just an
    eye wash. Will this effect small retail shops? People will not suddenly consume
    more just because big retailers have set the shop in their cities/towns. Whatever
    business they do will will definitely have effect on small retailers.
    About maintaining inventory. This big retailers do not maintain huge as is being
    perceived. The people who supply them are suppose to maintain this. Contracts
    between the two are drawn accordingly – my personal experience – . Only big
    suppliers can manage to do this. Big suppliers, big buyers, big retailers. This talk
    of benefit going to small farmers is just a talk which never happens.
    Try to notice people working with big retailers. You will not find people working there,
    you will find only robots. Machines are required to work there not human beings.
    Programs are installed in those machines and they just follow that program.
    They are not suppose to have their views, only follow the system. Their complains
    rarely reaches the top level because gap between them and the actual owners is
    huge. Rest latter have to leave for work.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    The primary reason we need FDI is funds, which we will create jobs. There is no such thing as a free job. The technology and the efficiency they will bring (I hope so) will help reduce wastage and bring down costs.

    With FDI, domestic rupees and paise will be freed for other projects/needs/etc. We need lot of money simultaneously to accelerate growth.

    Does this make sense? To me it does – dollars and cents.

    The other advantage with with big retail is one gets to do shelf-shopping before picking up an item, the kirana shops do not allow this luxury. You go, stand outside and say to kiranawala you want so and so items, he gets it, you pay and leave. See my post above.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    Many of your points are valid. The first one is of employment.
    Big chains will no doubt employ white-collared, educated boys and girls, who, in any case, may get comparable jobs anywhere else. AWHat about the crores of semi-educated, un-educable, un-employable young bopys and girls?

    Till now the small and medium retail outlets are the only avenues of employment for these halpless humanity. Besides, small tempos, hand-carts, coolies, loaders, etc are parts of a giant chain in the supply lines of the retail trade. What will happen to these under-privileged masses?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Few days back we read about a honest policeman who was
    mowed down by criminals. Who cares about these under-privileged masses.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh

    Thanks for your response.

    Some quick points (some of them I may articulated earlier, but that was long time ago).

    1) The fear that the neighbourhood / corner shop will become redundant is unfounded, as my experience goes.

    Take for example, the street where I live. In 1995, the first truly supermarket in Bombay/Mumbai region area, opened. It became an instant hit, people coming as far 15 to 20 kms away for their monthly shopping. At that time, there was one kirana shop within 300 metres of the supermarket. Today, there 5 such shops.

    Now look at the consumer behaviour. One does not get into Sunday’s best and drive down Big Retail to get essentials which the household may run out of – say a dozen eggs, loaf of bread, sugar, ballpen, note book or any other items – one dashes to nearest kirana shop, the big retail do not throw open their doors generally not before 9 AM in any case, while many kiranawalas are early birds and keep getting the proverbial worm.

    2) The opposition to the FDI was more political and there seemed to be very few other reasons. Haven’t been seeing this for the last few years – oppose for the sake opposition. The other reasons trotted out were bizarre to say the least. The classic one was by Sheshadri Chari stating with a straight face about security implications of allowing FDI in retail. Thank god, no one cautioned that FDI in retail would effect the tiger population in India. Most likely there was opposition at the behest of the middle men – large retail chains tend to go directly to producers. Also local chains may be averse to taking up the challenge from new imported kids on the block.

    3) Regarding profitability of the Big retail, during the heydays many a businessman sat in and drove the shopping cart with suspect or no business plans or any plans whatsoever. Vishal and Subiksha come to mind. Others with overflowing pockets went berserk setting targets like 600 outlets per year, paying unheard of rates real estate – they too paid the price and had to shut most of their bazaars. This could be attributed to sheep mentality and/or there was not going to any tomorrow – dreaming of ever increasing footfalls for eternity. The most bizarre was not selling the non-vegetarian items (even packaged soup powders), because the big boss himself and his family are members of SPCA and in some cases they still are.

    Naturally there has been shake-up and shake-out and the smart ones are there to stay, some have even managed locate themselves in populated areas and many have now reworked out business plans.

    4) Now where would be the entry point of the international chains. Given the fact there is a premium on the space available in populated, they may have to tie up with existing chains or set up shop on the outskirts. For example, anyone hoping to rent or buy 40000+ sq. ft of space say in Colaba does not know his real-estate or the retail trade.

    5) With centralised computerisation, distribution problems must have been taken care of – we have found out that some particular brand is rarely not available.

    6) A new development, which you must be aware of – Sahara India has announced plans to launch phone/internet order big retail with doorstep delivery. In my view, this is bound to fail. I repeat what I had said earlier – Sahara honchos do not know the female of the species – if there is no fun via window shopping or checking/feeling/putting under the microscope 1001 alternatives, before actually putting the item in the shopping cart, then the mistresses of the house are not interested.

    7) We will have ot wait and see what actually happens when the FDI in retail becomes a reality and which ‘phoren’ chains would catch the first flight to Bharat i.e. India.

    Opinions and vies are also welcome form others too.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    There are always pros and cons in any new venture.
    The reason kirana shops not going out of business and big retailers
    also doing profitable business is because of population growth mainly.
    To allow more of these outlets and to sustain all of these to run a
    profitable business, we have to keep on producing more children.
    In your previous post you mentioned about shelf shopping.
    Lot of study has been done in this particular type of shopping. This
    study has shown that consumer tends to pick many items from the
    shelf which is not really essential for him. In kirana shops you do not
    have this ‘luxury’. These small shops in our vicinity also provide
    a luxury of home delivery.

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  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    Same old, same old.
    Listening to Begam Akhatar, while driving.
    Aab Chhalakte huye Sagar nahin dekhe jaate, Tauba ke baad ye manjar nahin dekhe jaate. Mast kar ke( thanks Mohan) lagaa auron ko moo.n saki, ye karam hosh mai.n rah kar nahi.n dekhe jaate. Saath har ek ko is raah pe chalna hoga, Ishaq mai.n ( Democracy) Rahbar -o- Rahjan nahin dekhe jate. Ham ne dekha hai jamane ka badalana lekin, unke badale huye tewar nahin dekhe jaate.
    Guys, It is an entirly new world here. But I still feel connected to Vijay, Shenoy, Rajeev and surprise of surprise, Ravi. Rest of the crowd, do not take me otherwise. Moderator will delete me, if my post is longer than what it feels OK.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    yakeen mano, Begum Akhtar can put ‘jaan’ into any poetry and make it sound heavenly with her soulful rendering.

    it is good for you to keep her gazals for company.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shenoy sahab;
    Ys you are absolutely right.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Pankaj

    Do you have Begum Akhtar’s this ghazal.

    मीर के दीन का पूछते क्या हो उन ने तो

    कश्का खैंचा दैर में बेठा कब का तर्क इस्लाम किया

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Most definitely.

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  • Anonymous

    Mahesh/Manohar,

    Delivery boys risk their lives for express service.
    How employees are forced to perform in these so called big chain organizations.

    http://gulfnews.com/news/world/india/delivery-boys-risk-their-lives-for-express-service-1.1008083

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks. Have to leave now – where else – to big retail. Will read it later and respond.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Now that should not be allowed.
    Or else double the guaranteed delivery time.

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  • Anonymous

    CENSORSHIP STARTED EARLY IN THE MORNING!
    ===========================================

    Two of my posts, one on encounter deaths in all states and the fake encounter killing of Azad by Chidambaram’s Gestapo have been censored by the very modest moderator.

    BOTH CASES PUT UPA GOVERNMENT IN TIGHT SPOT IN THE SUPREME COURT.

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  • Anonymous

    you are wrong.
    The story is originally from Scotland Yard, which then came into the possession of Taliban.

    from Taliban to engrich, just a local delivery.

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  • Anonymous

    National Interest: BJP, the lonely
    Shekhar Gupta

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/national-interest-bjp-the-lonely/936574/0

    Excerpts

    There are reasons why it is easy to understand the BJP’s jubilation at the Gujarat SIT’s reprieve to Narendra Modi, and there are reasons why it isn’t. For a full decade now, Modi has been the party’s unanointed leader. A star, crowd-puller and vote-catcher, though that claim has never been proven outside his state. So you can see why the BJP should be happy with what they see as Modi crossing one more hurdle on his way to the national stage. The problem, however, is that while he may fire the imagination of the faithful, he would still bring — no matter how many exonerations he collects — the baggage of his past that will make it that much tougher for the BJP to rebuild NDA into a real claimant in 2014. In indictment as much as in exoneration, the Modi phenomenon cuts both ways. It gets more votes from your own, but raises barriers for many likely allies. The issue with Modi is not legal, but political. Even if he is never convicted, or even charged by a court for any role in the 2002 riots, he will continue to be spoilt goods politically.

    ————–

    The party’s central problem is this: even more than who is whose natural ally, coalitions in India will be formed on the basis of who will never go with whom. Because of this, the BJP, even with someone more widely acceptable than Modi in the lead, would need at least 200 seats in the Lok Sabha to have any chance of reaching that half-way mark, whereas for the Congress, 150 could still be the 272 in 2014. This is easy to explain. L.K. Advani often says he is open to aligning with anyone but the five parties that consider the BJP anti-national. These are the Congress, the Left, SP, RLD and IUML. But of the rest too, any party with any hope of getting the Muslim vote would never join an NDA unless it is led by a Vajpayee-like inclusive personality. The BJP hasn’t got one even remotely like that, and Modi will be the exact opposite. In fact, with Modi as leader, the alliance will find it impossible even to hold its biggest star today, Nitish Kumar. It was Vajpayee’s personality that brought Mamata, Naveen Patnaik and Chandrababu Naidu into the NDA. With Modi in front, you can write off all of these.

    ———-

    They have wasted seven years now by failing to address the one issue that limits them to competing for not more than 70-75 per cent of the electorate even in the states where they are strong: suspicion of the minorities and the increasingly liberal-secular-modern urban Indian.

    ———-

    If they want an India closest to the “socialist” promise of the preamble of its Constitution as rewritten by a Parliament on stolen time in the Emergency, wouldn’t they rather vote for the UPA? In marketing terms, then, what product differentiation does the BJP offer? And in the language of politics, you may just ask them: why can’t you see the writing on the wall?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Modi – Na ugalte banta hai, na nigalte banta hai.

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    Ravi Reply:

    इसी लिए हम उन्हें चब्बाए जाते हैं

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Even though I am pro Modi, but I liked your intelligent witty response. Nice one.

    Anonymous Reply:

    A real good one !

    Anonymous Reply:

    kachcha yaa pakaa ke?

    Ravi Reply:

    हर शब् पिया करतें हैं मै जिस कदर मिले

    Anonymous Reply:

    The last para on differentiation is a key.

    The big issue with BJP is that their leadership at state/local level is very mediocre – Congress also is bad, however, Congress’ lack is offset by their institutionalization/organization structure.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have said it several times recently – both the national parties have or are losing th plot. For all one knows – they may be reduced to bit players in 2014, unless they do not get their act together starting tonight.

    The problem with Congress – no local tall leader in any state. As soon as one is appointed as a CM or state party president, another few are let loose to keep the above two pinned down, lest they start getting ‘fancy’ ideas about their own importance and power. What a far cry from the days of Nehru – each and every state very strong and popular local leaders without their hands being tied behind by the high command. – Kamaraj, S K Patil, Dr. B C Roy, B G Kher, Y B Chavan, Mohanlal Sukhadia, Pratap Singh Kairon, etc. along with host of equally strong leaders as MPs/Ministers at the centre.

    The BJP’s problem is of image. If 2002 had not happened, then IMO, perhaps NDA would have been in power today in its third term. Atal Behari Vajpayee himself acknowledged the reason for NDA’s defeat. Now that it did happen, the BJP has been in denial about it, along with questionable behaviour for the last 10 years. One wonders whether the BJP/RSS leadership has ever acknowledged the trust deficit of the minorities, I do not think so. If you take out 2002 Gujarat and 2008 Orissa out of the equation, there is no reason for the electorate to prefer the Congress over the BJP. On the governance and corruption front both would be as good or as bad as the other.

    Shekhar Gupta has rightly pointed, the BJP has to address the Modi’s political problem outside of Gujarat and among the minorities. The loss of minority support has not been matched or exceeded by the support from the majority. One way, which many of you would not agree – to simply jettison him and get a Vajpayee. The other way is to rebuilding the trust of the minorities and this is going very difficult indeed and even if they start today, the dividends would possibly be forthcoming not earlier 2019.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Mohan

    U did have this joke about Mayawati. Well let me remind you that women have a “Different” sense of humour and maybe Mayawati won’t find it funny :)

    Like Mamta, witha ‘different’ sense of humour could only snarl at the cartoons!

    Amar Singh, who runs a CD shop now, once remarked that, “Mayawati Kaali, uska dil kaala…”

    She never forgave him after that. Even when he offered her help when he was thrown out by Mulayam SIngh.

    Further on, while she gave the contract for statues for her memorials, one national award winning sculptor made her out, exactly as she was — a bit round.

    Mayawati ji had one look at the statue during the statue inaugral– immediately decided that the statue was more “round and big” than what she thought was. In 100 seconds flat, the statue was removed. The Sculptor banished.

    4 years later… he is still scurrying around for payments….

    So take care not to supply consumer electronics to the ex CM, since you have already joked…. about her.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Thanks for warning me. To avoid her wrath I will carry fake identity whenever
    I travel to UP.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “Amar Singh, who runs a CD shop now, once remarked that, “Mayawati Kaali, uska dil kaala…”

    uski daal mein bhi bahut kuch kaala hai.

    But, in the case of gora Amar Singh, sirf uski CD ke daal ein kuch kaala thaa. But, if you ask Vinodji, he will say everything is white and pure.

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  • Anonymous

    Chinese censors have removed the famous scene in which Kate Winslet poses naked from the new 3D version of Titanic over fears that audiences might reach out and try to touch the actor’s body.
    Instead of seeing Winslet sprawled naked on a chaise lounge, Chinese viewers got a head-and-shoulders close-up. One commenter wrote on the internet: “I waited 15 years to see 3D b***s, not a 3D iceberg.”

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    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    I once went out with a woman who had silicon implants. Believe me they felt no different from any icebergs.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I don’t know what was the age of the woman you went out, but
    after certain age of women they all feel like an icebergs.

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  • Anonymous

    Times of India – 14 April 2012
    ” Matters came to an interesting point during a recent review meeting when the upper caste/Brahmin argument was invoked by a local UP leader saw Congress leader Rahul Gandhi rebutting the claim by remarking “I am a Brahmin…and general secretary in the party.”
    Pandit Motilal Nehru married to Swarup Rani Nehru ( Both Kasmiri Pandits)
    Pandit JawaharLal Nehru married to Kamla Nehru( Both Kasmiri Pandits)
    Indira Gandhi( Kasmiri Pandit) married to Feroze Gandhi ( Parsee)
    Rajiv Gandhi( proclaimed himself to be a Hindu … but caste ? ) married to Sonia Gandhi ( Italian origin – Roman Catholic)
    Rahul Gandhi Unmarried – proclaims himself to be a Brahmin …and a General Secy of the Congress Party .
    Could some distinguished visitor to this blog enlighten us by virtue of which Hindu tradition or convention does he become a Brahmin?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    We, the praja is not allowed to dispute. We have to only trust and believe
    what ever our Yuvraaj says.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen Saxenaji,

    by convention, all the members of the Nehru-Gandhi family are deemed to be Brahmins, including Sonia Gandhi (optional).

    It is definitely a Zionst, Brhmnst conspiracy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He definitely surprised me with that statement.
    But I rarely discuss religion. So I would refrain as usual.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    Only surprised or disappointed?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, Shenoy Saab

    Had this statement come from a BJP leader or any other Opposition party , it would have been the headline on the Front Page and all the condemnation as subheads. But then he is youth icon of the country … is he not ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    Not only this would have been front page news but it would have been discussed on all
    the TV chanels. Main discussion would have been that this is RSS concipracy
    and they want to bring Hindu Raj.

    Anonymous Reply:

    He is surprised, disappointed and also hurt by Praveen Saxena discussing religion.

    Actually he discussed only Rahul’s caste.

    As it is, the supreme court has decreed that SOnia’s religion cannot be disclosed to the public.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I will reply to you elsewhere, not on this thread.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That’s a bold statement to make. A very assertive one, indeed !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen

    He may be taking the “high road”… that he is a “Brahmin” through his actions/karma!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi
    Yes having been on a low for some time now after UP , our Brahmin Rahul Gandhi , is probabaly trying to claw back ….and his guru Digvijay Singh may have advised him on this route.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    If this doesn’t work then he will become a Mulla.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Becoming a Mulla shall not be a problem , he has only to get his khatna done and take on a new name given by the Maulvi Sahab . But becoming a Brahmin may be a problem …that can only be through lineal descent.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    If this doesn’t work then he will become a Mulla.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Biologically (taking lineage from Feroze Gandhi), he is a Parsee, just as Rajiv and Sanjay Gandhi were. So is Varun. If they do not wish to be identified as such, there is nothing anyone can do about it.

    ——-

    Rahul Gandhi Unmarried – proclaims himself to be a Brahmin …and a General Secy of the Congress Party .

    A very idiotic statement to make, if you ask me.

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  • Anonymous

    India’s Worst Journalists – 2012

    Our host Mr. Sharma is also on this list. I do not know for how long will this
    post of mine remain here until censors pick up the scissors ..

    http://www.mediacrooks.com/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    I liked the last sentence “his journalistic independence was separated at birth”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    If I were given a chance to complete the write-up on him, this would be my concluding sentence:

    “Vinod Sharma, in the last couple of years, has become a great and versatile practitioner of a particular yoga exercise, which enables him to bend above the waist, almost as a reflection, at the very mention of three names: Sonia Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi and congress party.”

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    But… shenoy sahab…

    For all my differences with Vinod Sharma’s political acrobatics… I would still salute him for being democratic on this blog, most of the time… Unless his censor snips his brain occasionally…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy

    Great!

    May be he is hedging too….If the bending is not enough for Sonia, or as it looks like that congress will be a big loser in 2014, he may be angling to join Ramdevl

    Anonymous Reply:

    With one exception, I agree with the names/order in the list.

    Thanks for the link, Mohan.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Do you think that list is truly representative or the listed journalists are not very well disposed towards the BJP and Modi, as it seems that is the criteria has been used?

    The author, Ravinar, is one who had written an obituary of these same journalists a week earlier. By declaring them the worst after they are ‘no more’, what is he trying to do – flogging dead horses?

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  • Anonymous

    What’s the difference between men and Camels..??
    Camels can work without drinking for 7 days…
    AND men can drink without working for 7 days!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    100% agree with this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    100% agree with this.

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  • Anonymous

    mohan

    It is interesting it was not covered at all!

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  • Anonymous

    ok- mohan, et al

    A day after the Union cabinet cleared the Food security Bill, the UPA government has announced its decision to also table the ‘Right to Girlfriend’ bill in the current session of Parliament. Purported to be Rahul Gandhi’s brainchild, the concomitant scheme titled ‘Rajiv Gandhi Girlfriend Yojana’ (RAGGY) will guarantee a girlfriend for 100 days a year to every Indian unmarried male below 45 years of age.

    “Why should only some guys have all the fun? Social nerds, book-worms, tech-geeks, or even out-and-out losers have a fundamental right to a girlfriend!” screamed Rahul Gandhi during an election rally in Amethi while unveiling the bill’s salient features, drawing wolf whistles and thunderous applause from the assembled crowd.

    According to the proposed scheme, a youth can register with his local Gram Panchayat Mukhiya or Municipal Ward Councillor and demand a girlfriend for a specified period of time. The Government in turn has to provide a girlfriend to the beneficiary within 15 days, failing which the beneficiary will be compensated at the rate of Rs. 200 per day for the duration of the agonizing wait.

    For the purpose of estimating the number of beneficiaries, the Planning Commission has defined the Below Frustration line (BFL) as any normal, unmarried, single Indian male between 18 and 28 who has answered ‘frustrated’ to the NSSO survey question ‘How do you feel about not having a babe?’

    Congress leader, Digvijay Singh, has welcomed the proposed scheme and said that the government has the complete support of the party. “Once again, Rahul has taken up a secular issue that resonates with all Indian male youth cutting across religious, social, and economic barriers,” he said. “Even if RAGGY delivers half of what it promises, Rahul will have cemented his reputation as India ’s youth icon,” said the veteran Congress leader. Diggy however vehemently rejected suggestions that Rahul might have any vested interest behind this scheme.

    Noted psephologist, Yogendra Jadhav, contends that there might be more to the scheme than meets the eye: “First the Food Security Bill may reduce hunger and thereby attenuate popular supports for Anna ji’s fasts. And now this bill could be an instrument to distract Anna’s youthful supporters, thereby weakening the ‘India against Corruption’ movement.”

    The bill, however, has been opposed by the Prime Minister’s Economic Advisory Council on the grounds that it is impractical to directly intervene in the market for love. “Chicks are the most unpredictable of economic agents and many might flatly refuse to become girlfriends of some geeky dudes, no matter how hard the Government tries to intervene. I have solid empirical evidence to back this claim based on my own failed attempts to woo members of the fairer sex. So this scheme will indubitably lead to fiscal bankruptcy and poor outcomes,” warned chief economic adviser, Kaushik Basu, in his working paper ‘The Economics of Babe Management’.

    Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission and renowned economist, Montek Singh, on the other hand, has opined that cash transfers are the way to go and single guys should simply be given dating stipends to improve their prospects of finding beaus.

    This policy prescription has however been trashed by the National Advisory Council’s Aruna Roy. “If Monty thinks that all it takes is a little cash to impress a lady, then clearly his knowledge of the fairer sex is even poorer than his knowledge of poverty,” hollered the veteran civil society activist.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    I for one don’t see Rahul’s stamp on the act.

    if it is his brainchild, it should be rechristened RUGBY-Rahul Urban Girlfriend-Boyfriend Yojana.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, as long as they dont name it Yoni

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    your very very original piece on RAGGY is by far the best joke on this blog.

    This only goes to show that if there is a subject funny enough, a good writer can make it rip-roaringly funny.

    Anonymous Reply:

    YOJANA FOR NET INDIANS!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Only you can think of this. (: (:

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Nice one Gopi. Made me smile.

    You should also give credit to the original writer of the piece, shouldn’t you?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes– I got this in my chain email.. Did not say who the author was

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    I have no choice but to use this expression. ROFL.
    This one piece beats all my jokes combined.
    Brilliant. Thanks.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    yes, Gopi, BRILLIANT IN CAPITALS.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    shenoy– this is not my creation; came to me through a chain mail… put it here because I know all of u will like this!.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    I have no choice but to use this expression. ROFL.
    This one piece beats all my jokes combined.
    Brilliant. Thanks.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Brilliant !! Seems there are other perceptive people in the world !!

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  • Anonymous

    Washington Post article on Narendra Modi …US/UK warming to him after his visit to China..

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/the-two-views-on-indias-narendra-modi/2012/04/04/gIQAjh0L

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  • Anonymous

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/the-two-views-on-indias-narendra-modi/2012/04/04/gIQAjh0LwS_story.html

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Benoy,

    A nice balanced article. Without directly blaming or completely exonerating Modi.
    Agree with the article that there is a huge improvement in electricity supply and
    pavement of roads even in small villages. There is an improvement in supply of
    water, but still lot has to be done about this.
    Thanks for the link.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx for the link Binoy

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  • Anonymous

    The RTE ruling: A step forward in welfarism going berserk?

    Are we moving in right direction? Interesting article.

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bugs-eye-view/entry/an-uneducated-ruling

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Yes, we are, though slower than what the speed required. It will take sometime before it sinks into the elitist schools. Another point to note is that this policy is to be implemented by the state governments, so let us see which states do better than others.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    So, it is the fault of the elitist schools that:
    a) there are so many poor people in the country who can’t afford their fees, and
    b) they are able to provide better quality of education than the sarkari schools?

    I am sure you can see the logic given in the article by Mr. Tiwari and its extension to housing and food. Why are your trying to make it a political issue by saying “lets see which state govt. do better”?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    I noticed the same thing in the article which you did. Government is forcing private sectors to their job.

    Excerpt from this article :

    “Even now, some 80% of all schools in the country are run by central, state, or local governments. If they were to maintain even a semblance of quality, no one would want to go to a private institution and pay through their nose”

    This is what is required. Bring improvement in these schools,
    things will start falling into place. It is not very difficult as some
    people would like to believe. Rules should be implemented
    sincerely and honestly, automatically we will see dramatic
    positive changes happening.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely, they deduct my tax before I get my salary, I can’t avoid the education cess on it, then I have to pay some more every time I buy food, clothes, fuel or make a phone call, etc.

    What do they do with this money? They live in Lutyen’s bunglaws – (both politicians as well as the judges of the SC). Are they also prepared to reserve space for 25% poor in Lutyen’s Delhi?

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Supervision” is grossly missing in these Govt Schools. The teachers have permanent job. The result is hardly scrutinised. Most principals and teachers indulge in local, low level party politics. Wherever, the principals have taken initiative, the schools have shown brilliant results.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Most of the government schools are either run by the state governments, municipalities, panchayats and other local bodies. The central government has kendriya vidyalayas and the like, but they are too few and far, as education is primarily a state subject, though on the concurrent list.

    Improving the standards should be also on the cards.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do you know the salient features of the bill or just objecting to it because of reasons best known to yourself?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I normally don’t comment on issues that I don’t understand.

    I have read the provisions. I don’t have any problems with any other feature except the one which provides for 25 percent reservation for economically disadvantaged communities in admission to Class One in all private schools.

    Even this one would be OK as long as the govt. is ready to reimburse the fees (as being paid by other students) to the private schools.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you had really understood then you would not make a statement like

    “Even this one would be OK as long as the govt. is ready to reimburse the fees (as being paid by other students) to the private schools”.

    Please Google and read the act in detail. Good luck.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Be kind enough to provide me the link.

    (Edited below)

    Thanks Manohar,

    I stand corrected. The bill does say that the financial burden would be shared by the state and central government. The article by Mr. Tiwari in ToI didn’t clarify this.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Moreover, this 25% quota is to be filled in by children from less privileged backgrounds in the neighbourhood of the school, so that the child does not have to travel far to get education. For example, a economically disadvantaged child say from Hauz Khas cannot seek admission say in a school near CP.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This majority judgement by the SC defies logic.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan
    This is another as- backward program .
    This whole welfarism methods are making the whole country go backward..
    I agree with the writer.

    Govt mandating “must enroll 30% poor etc” is an infringement to freedom. I would guess that some smart lawyer can make it reversed.

    Education is an important matter — but this plan is worse than autocratic China’s.

    A better solution is to shut down government schools, or a majority of them, or poor performing ones (which will be very difficult to assess), give that money to good private school operators, and let them run for 10 years…renew the contract based on student performance

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  • Anonymous

    Pankaj, Mohan and others.

    Help a Child

    http://www.helpachildofindia.org/child/?c=H05&b=19&p=2

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    Please believe me, work is ON.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I trust you. Kudos.

    I just came across this site and posted the link.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Thanks.

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  • Anonymous

    Stay away from my parks: Mayawati warns Akhilesh govt

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/stay-away-from-my-parks-mayawati-warns-akhilesh-govt/936742/

    BSP chief Mayawati, who had drawn flak from the Supreme Court for wasting taxpayers’ money by building parks and installing her statues, today warned the ruling SP in Uttar Pradesh that any move to make changes in the memorials erected during her regime could create law and order problem.

    ———–

    She used public money to build them and now she says that the parks belong to her.

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  • Pankaj#1

    Rajeev;
    Kya yaar yeh chup karke baith jaate ho. Janam samjha karo, janam samjha karo.

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  • Anonymous

    ————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ PAKISTAN ALLOWED TO INVEST IN INDIA THRU FDI ~~~~
    ————————————————————————————————————————–

    Let us come back to the primary topic of the blog. Our so called separated neighbour.

    India seems in a hurry to bail it out, even when the entire world is wanting to corner it over terror and fundamantism– the unworkable soft approach which gave us Kargil, Prliament attacks and 26/11. from tehn on Pakistan has handed no terrorist, still feeds Dawood and Hafeez Saeed.

    However India is going out of the way to embrace it again, Is it because we want to give a lease of life to Zardari and maybe nawaz Sharif? Yes, we must be good neighb ours, but forgetting terrorists and Pakistan’s involvement would be actual foolhardiness.

    In an astounding move, “the Aman ki aasha ” Government of UPA is allowign Pakistanis to invest in INdia through FDI. Now there must be a thousand Paksitani business men who would be decent, but given the state of their economy, how would they ever invest in India.

    On the flipside ISI and Jaish may open front comapnies– say travel to kashmir, Cyber Cafe’s etc… which can then promote terror and fund anti India activities.

    I feel sorry for the decent Pakistanis when I write this. But then they have to kill their snakes and help in freeing their minorites from converting terrorists… to win our love,. first.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    This exchange of trade can be done from a position of strength and not weakness. It is not forcible consumption of opium by Chinese, as practiced by Britishers. What is the need of hour is to let pakistanis interact with Indians to understand that we share more similarities than differences. A whole 2 or 3 generations of pakistanis have totally warped concept of Indians in general and Hindus in particular. Fear of unknown is an established fact. More they know about us and more we know about them is mutually beneficial. They will leave their hatred and fear, that is my belief. Now trade per se, will certainly benefit both economies, generation of employment, cheap commodities, grains, Pharmaceuticals, technology etc. Poverty and ignorance are fuelling factors for pakistanis to take them towards nadir.Once, forces of liberalism and economic interests consolidate their position, that is bound to be, forces of destruction, both military and terrorists, will ceretainly retreat. it is in the less oxygenated atmospher, that this cancer of militancy is growing, give it oxygen of free thinking, trade and employment and it will die its natural death. why India should take lead, it is because it is Indian’s interest. they are the ones who are most directly affected. there are ways and means, by which, terrorist and their finances can be controlled. only Indians need to be vigilant about this possibility and no corruption shoild take place. Honey traps included.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    Very apt response and I hope it puts some sense in ……….

    I know right-wingers are not going to look kindly upon it and will see all sorts of ghosts and phantoms. I suppose they would be also unhappy that India is going to supply petroleum products to our neighbour. The reason is not far to see.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think right wing and left wing are a figment of imagination to give an issue a slant. When the Pakistanis attack us through terror and by trying to train Indians into Lashkars and IM’s, both the left wing of CPM and the right wing of BJP is affected.

    Manmohan’s soft approach is bound to fail as for the present Pakistan is a dog with tail down currently, having been exposed on Osama.

    however they have not dismatled the ISI or its operatives.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Do I become right wing if I say that I don’t trust Pakistan state ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ MOhan

    I think certin people hae a world view which consists of cliches. If you love Paksitan you are liberal is one assumption.

    Funnily even Afzal Guru loves Pakistan. SO is he liberal?

    Similarly you have to be a right winger if you want to decimate Paksitan. Indira gandhi would prbably have pulled the ears of all who are implying she was a right winger.

    Actually u need to have a brain to get out of cliches !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    ‘ I hope it put some sense in….’

    Do you mean to say that if I do not agree with the views of Pankaj, then I don’t
    have sense ? I just dont trust Pakistn state. IMO, whatever we do, end of the
    day they will stab us in our back.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    No and you do not necessarily become a right-winger (it is not bad thing to be one). I had specific set of people in mind. You are not one of them.

    Though we are taking steps to normalise relations, no one is ever suggesting that we should lower our guard. In this case, we are going to allow FDI. It is going to remain a friendly initiative. Do you really think Pakistan and their businessmen have the money to spare and pour billions of dollars into our economy.? It may be a few million here and there in some joint ventures or may be in stock market and I am sure the government will monitor it closely. It is not going to make any difference financially for us, but may be it will send the right signals. Our economy is too huge for Pakistan to even make a small dent.

    Here is some comparison – Market capitalization
    1) Indian companies – US$ 1000 + billion
    2) Tata Group – US$ 100 billion.
    3) Pakistani companies – US$ 35 billion.

    So no need to start ringing alarm bells.

    Actually it would make sense if they allow us to invest in their economy and commerce, which may too come about in the near future.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    I was an optimist on this once. But every gesture of peace from India is returned with a new scheme of decimating India from inside.

    Starting 1978, when Morarji Desai revealed the names of India’s RAW agents to Gen Zia and also gave seeds and tech know how to improve agriculture, Pakistanis have used their false smiles to embrace us from front and stab us in the back.

    I dont think things have changed one inch. When US with 20 billion dollars of goodies could not win them over, how can we?

    The only country they respect is CHina which keeps them under their shoe.

    You know some of the old Indian Punjabi refugees– Khuswant Singh, Kuldip nayar, IK Gujral and our dear young looking (younger hearted) Vinod Sharma have a stockholm syndrome about Pakistan. And a mistaken belief that India and Pakistan are equal. All of them boast about their freindship with Paksitani leaders– in the same manner and pride, the way I would boast of friendshp with Mallika Sherawat and Anushka Sharma — In case I ever got to know them. :) :)

    How can India and Pakistan ever be equal?

    we are four times their size, six times their population, a secular republic, a democracy, a growing economy, a liberal free society which does not forcibly convert minorites and tolerates even liers like Engrich and Antulay with a smile….

    I think we will be opening our door to another 26/11… as time will show.

    let Pakistan show that it is worthy of our friendhip by first doing qurbani of Dawood and Hafeez.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    You have echoed my emotions about Pakstan state.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx Mohan

    You must be dealing with more Paksitanis than I would ever… though I do have a few friends.

    The Paksitani state represents hatred of NOn Muslims, decimation of minorities, butchering of liberal thought.

    Individually you will surely come across some very very fine Paksitanis… some of them polite and nice.
    Collectively when they become Paksitan…. They forget they are from the land of Nadeem Paracha and najam Sethi.

    Thye think they belong to a colony called Greater Saudia.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not for any thing with Pakistan until their situation vis-a-vis who is in charge, whether ISI can be controlled , whether Govt has the power to eliminate terrorist networks etc is clarified and settled.

    No more throwing good money after bad money

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Nothing has changed. Pakistan is down and out… but instead of going for the kill… the UPA is fiddling with its own balls and will end up playing ball with Pakistan.

  • Anonymous

    BlLOGERS I AM BACK
    ___________________________

    Had unexpected stone surgery in Agra, too much trouble . Now bak in Amritsar recovering.
    Gopi vaary nice humor. Vijay, I like u, always on lookout for trouble from Pakistan, well spotted this potential for mischief by lashkar underbusiness garb.
    In fact blog nominates that viju be sent to Siachen for sentry duty seeing as you are so CHAUKANNA. hehe

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Balwinder

    Welcome back. No problem of siachin posting… as long as a crate of whisky is sent…

    I checked my daru consumption for ten days… just to check out any addiction for ti. But today I welcome you back… by filling my glass

    And also cheers to Mohan for the joke on government office…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Balwinder,

    Ek chote se pathar ne kar di aapki haalat kharab
    So jaiye peekar do glass sharab
    Subah ko na rahega pathar na rahega dard
    Raat bhar dekhte rahiye khoobsoorat kwaab.

    Get well soon.

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  • Pankaj#1

    Ravi;
    Knowing your interests in sociology, castes, upward mobility of lower castes etc. I will recommend to you reading of Tribune, of today. he has written on this topic in past as well, try to read books by this author. writer is Ajmal kamal. That will explain to you a lot about Indian Muslims and their caste structure, their struggle etc. Do not read only this article, read everything from this writer. He has very correctly mentioned, Saadat Hasan Manto, my favorite writer of all time, and his writing, what saadat was supporting and portraying etc.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    Manto’s famous letters to “dear uncle Sam” seem to be the foreteller of what will eventually engulf the area — he predicted the arming of the military will eventually strengthen the Mullahs , rise of ruthless ideologies, profound distrust of US in Pakistan
    In a letter in 1954, long before Soviet union’s invasion of Afghanistan, he wrote “You are seriously concerned about the stability of the world’s largest Islamic state since our mullah is the best antidote to Russian communism”…”once military aid starts flowing the first people you should arm are the mullahs”..

    Manto, although warned about ugly Americans, unfortunately did not fully warn against ugly Pakistanis and ugly Indians!

    May be he was an optimist!

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    Ravi Reply:

    Pankaj

    Many thanks. I will read it later today.

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  • Anonymous

    US historian gets 1-yr visa extension

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/US-historian-gets-1-yr-visa-extension/Article1-840184.aspx

    Controversial US historian Peter Heehs on Friday got a year’s visa extension, two days before the April 15 deadline set by immigration authorities for him to leave the country. Home minister P Chidambaram granted the extension to the author of The Lives of Sri Aurobindo, overruling the recommendation of ministry and immigration officials.

    ——————-

    At last the Government has shown some spunk and upheld the fundamental principles of our constitution.

    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    Why India has become a democratic (imperfect if you like) country and why Pakistan has been hobbling between dictatorships and democracy(!!!)?

    Here is an interesting analysis and historical background.

    Aapas Ki Baat – With Najam Sethi – INDIA & PAK 1947 to 2011 Facts – 14 Dec 2011

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH6WlNBiibs

    ———

    Views welcome.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks for the link. People should watch this more for India than Pakistan !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It was a good treatise on the historical, political and social backgrounds as to why Pakistan went one way and we another in terms of governance. Excellent – an eye opener for me.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Very very interesting. Enjoyed watching this program. This proves that state should
    never get involved in religion. Very good analysis by Mr. Sethi.
    Tks for the link.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are welcome.

    We two have always agreed that the religion be kept locked within oneself. Religion was one aspect. As you must have noticed there were other factors too – the most striking was difference in approach by Indians led by Nehru and his colleagues & Jinnah in Pakistan.

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  • Anonymous

    Tackling Naxal issue: Govt plans Rs. 1000-cr body with help of India Inc :

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Mumbai/Tackling-Naxal-issue-Govt-plans-Rs-1000-cr-body-with-help-of-India-Inc/Article1-840639.aspx

    ======
    Interesting out-of-box thinking

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    Very interesting. Let’s hope it works.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I like the orientation given to the programme to build the credibility and trust.

    The whole Naxal problem is because of the mistrust between the Govt. machinery and the under priviledged people. The fact that this would not be run like another Govt run programme will give it a different boost altogether and will work to bridge the gap.

    At this moment, I do not mind giving the credit to the minister fostering this thinking. Everything else is usual stuff. This would be the differentiator.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is a gr8 intiative. In case corporates change the role models … from kishenji to Premji (azim) … our Naxalite problem will be solved.

    Hopefully Arundhati Roy and gang won’t intrude to soil and spoil the initiative.

    Anonymous Reply:

    There will always be people to spoil the show. You saw how people went after the Unique ID project.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely. Evven the election ID project was targetted by Lalu when it was started.

    Arundhati is hugely , grossly overated. The damage she causes to causes has not been tabulated.

    we as a nation are tongue tied in front of English speaking women who put on a facade of fighting for others.

    Marketing lies is very easy. Tejpal marketed her as an architect, forgetting to tell the public that she stayed 6 years in school of planning and cleared only two years and was asked to leave. The they added the aerobic teacher bit.– a marketing concoction.

    In 1992 the first glimpse of scantily clad aerobic teaher on star TV was sending India into erection mode.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Jairam is a committed guy, also a smart man- this is a good program, let us hope and pray this will be succesful.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He is. I have a lot of faith in his ability. I personally would like to see him grow and play a larger role.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well is he the choice in case amul baba gets jitters?

    Anonymous Reply:

    He can’t get the UPA elected, Rahul still can.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    Rahul can get UPA elected? You are a very very optimistic person.

    Anonymous Reply:

    He was the lead campaigner in 2009 when Advani led the NDA campaign. Both of them travelled more than 8500 km. Rahul travelled a little more.

    Anonymous Reply:

    kumar gaurav was a one hit wonder.

    You need to have the power of intelligence after the curiosity wears of.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    You should be a politician. You know how to avoid inconvenient question and still
    give an answer. You have done this twice today. This is a compliment not a critisism.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks.

    Anonymous Reply:

    When do you think Rahul will actually adress a press conference where anybody can ask any question?

    Or maybe it is not required as

    a) The Indian press will only ask questions supplied by the Congress

    b) he is superbright and the media IQ is low so they wont understand the answers.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Just that you never noticed. He has been openly taking questions from the youngsters all over the country.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    it would be interesting to have his take on censoring.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I shall forward your letter to the censor board marking ” Seen by a politician”.

    Perhaps people will take the file as seriously as they take “seen by PM” marking .

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Sanjay;
    I will admit that I suffer from a disease known as ADHD. i can not read lengthy articles, get distracted after 5-6 lines. But at the same time, my feelings are strong and I am not confined to box. Rightist/ leftist, Bull shit.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The UPA Govt. has a very innovative plan to takle the Naxal issue. It is creating a fund to help people which will NOT be managed by the Govt. This is not the all-solution plan, but it will definitely bridge the gap with the Naxals. You know Naxals can not be treated like those across-border terrorists.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Agreed. Nacxals are our people. As a last resort, they have taken to the armed struggle.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I like your description of “innovative plan of UPA”

  • Anonymous

    This is we all should do when we buy a car for our wife.

    Husband gave the key of a new car to his wife and told her
    ” Remember darling, If you meet with an accident, newspapers and
    TV channels will disclose your age “

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Very good.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan-
    A good one!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    my earlier comment on your joke has been censored, along with two other posts of mine within a span of 10minutes.

    This joke is very good to start the day.

    Compared to the risk of the media coming to know the age of a woman driver, her running the car on sleeping footpath dwellers and killing some of them is definitely a much lesser evil.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We always get Mohan’s joke 1st thing in the morning.

    I guess you need to work harder on that front.

    [ try jokes on women / wives for a better acceptance...People always find their misery and hard truth in them.. ]

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Censor aap par kuch zyada hi meharbaan hai.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Sanjay

    Will jairam play a bigger role? Well I hope he does as he is the quite hardworking sort of guy ( like me :)

    But seriously speaking I dont see it happening.

    The Royal family– in case chotta baba gets jitters — would want a plus 80 guy like Pranab da to warm the seat,

    Otherwise they would fear that Chotta baba will become Prince Charles– the heir apparent for 30 years…

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  • Anonymous

    @ Sanjay

    Sorry I have to post here as box is small…

    Its grb news that rahul has started taking questions from children… . must be kids below thirteen. I bet this is some sort of marketing strategy formulated after seeing his limitations and possibilites of huge huge gaffe.. But still the media crawls and swoons… Zaroor Radiia type chakkar.

    Strange.. all the press is in a hurry to anoint him the PM. When till date he has not addressed a SINGLE press conference where tough questions are asked. The lsst occassion– after the loss of UP, he came in… and pretended that he couldNOT hear the questions!!

    Still our beloved Hindustan Times led the band of cheer leaders. Stating

    ” Hooray Hooray… rahul has done it. Addressed the media ji…

    Tappa pao… gisha pao… Bhangra ji Bhangra…

    Yuvraj ne press ko adress kiya hai?”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    His Brahmin gaffe just shows that the Indian press which sniggered at George Bush and salutes Rahul will soon see the world sniggereing at Rahul and saluting Bush…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    the blog starts with a horizontal box where we post our most intelligent, funny, serious and frivolous thoughts which are often hilariously sexy too.

    Chalte, chalte, the box becomes a square

    aur aage jaate, it becomes a vertical rectangle and before the end, the box is all but a straight vertical line where you cannot type more than one key.

    This is an irritating feature, besides the cesnsoring.

    I hope Sanjay Dhawan would give his thought to this technical problem, if he can spare some time from censoring.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Rahul baba has proven that he is gaffe-prone.

    The latest “I am brahmin too” gaffe, when it explodes, has the potential of disturbing the ethnic, cultural and social equations of the Indian community.

    But the media will surely hush it up, like it did when he said once, “If my grand mother was alive, she wouldn’t have allowed the Babri masjid to be destroyed”. (Poor fellow, he forgot that his grand mother, far from saving a non-mosque, destroyed the Golden Temple, a living symbol of Hindu-Sikh heritage.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Actually if he starts amovement for doing away with dynastic succession in Saudia, India, cuba, North Korea, Pakistan… I would ardenly support him.

    We all would nominate him president of SINCUMP !! :)

    SINCUMP= countries with domesetic servant mentality

    S-saudia

    In — India

    etc etc

    We should ask Vinod Sharmaji to do a blog on this.

    Anonymous Reply:

    However the credit and nobel prize of coining this term should go to Shenoy sahab…

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not in CMS business, though have enough competency in that

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    Anonymous Reply:

    U R OUR SOS.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You got all your rational thoughts mixed up. Can’t help it if you keep on insisting. I can only smile.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Square is fine but vertical is the best where we can put oops write
    something of significant. Straight vertical line is of no use at all.

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  • Pankaj#1

    Vijay/ Mohan/ manohar
    I will come back to write about, why we should trade with pakistan.

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  • Anonymous

    Pankaj & others.

    Here is a song penned by Raja Mehdi Ali Khan, composer: S D Burman and sung by Geeta Dutt.

    meraaa sundar sapnaa beet gayaa – DO BHAI (1947).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=403sM7cPtYY

    Enjoy. Good Night.

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  • Anonymous

    Well, well – an explosive allegation by the author/journalist Adrian Levy in his new book “The Meadows” – a book about the 1995 kidnappings/killings of 6 foreigners in Kashmir by terrorists linked to Masood. He makes a startling accusation that India deliberately left the hostages to die as a part of the larger political gain/game being played in Kashmir at the time.
    Heather Timmons, NYT’s ex correspondent interviews the authors:
    http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/13/a-conversation-with-the-meadow-author-adrian-levy/

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Benoy;
    Without reading the article, I will say, I am ashamed of indian government of the time.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    Common man becomes pawn in this big dirty game of politics.

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  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    I will respond to Vijay/ Gopi and other friends, but before that, let me go to music. I am not all Gazals, Sher-o shayari. Currently, I am playing, Anoop Jalota, his most popular CD, which brings tears to my eyes and with force mach -7. It takes me back to my basics. This guy was so much underrated??? why. he should have received padam shri at least. I will argue with people, who will oppose this. Another, ignored artist is Kishori Amonkar. Guys, who have an ear for music, should listen to her. Open for all recrimination. Khujali mitegi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Kishori Amonkar – a very great artiste. I do not think she was ignored during her heydays. Presently, she may be in semi-retirement.

    My favourite classical vocalists happen to be from Patiala Gharana – led by Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan – arguably the greatest of them all. The current torchbearer of this gharana is Pandit Ajoy Chakravarty, another fine artiste.

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    Ravi Reply:

    I concur

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Yes, I listened to bade Gulam Ali on Radio and was instantly impressed by his powerful voice. Ka karu sajani, aaye na balam..

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  • Anonymous

    Modi writes to PM, opposes govt move to give wide powers to BSF :

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Modi-writes-to-PM-opposes-govt-move-to-give-wide-powers-to-BSF/Article1-840603.aspx

    ======================================
    One more attempt at Nationhood vs State Power
    ======================================

    BSF, which is at present deployed for anti-Naxal operations, had sought an amendment to the act so that it could also arrest people within the country especially in Maoist-hit states.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay

    When the states have a problem, then they start blaming the centre for not helping them enough. Navin Patnaik (all that anti-NCTC stuff) just capitulated and blamed the centre too. Plain politics is in play here.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    For petty interests, we are taking many steps backward.
    It will only spiral up and create a much bigger problem.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely right. That is what Amul baba , Digviansh Singh and Salman did in UP elections. Just for getting seats they followed the Jinnah formula.

    In the end they just got a kick on their own backseat

    Anonymous Reply:

    It did not create a bigger problem. they got kicked out.

    So it’s different.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You discuss Modi and surely an attempt is always made to divert the discussion away.

    In a way it is the right approach, Modi is not worth discussing, perhaps of his growing irrelevance on the national stage. Period.

    Anonymous Reply:

    So, you feel the BSF doing police job inside the country and Modi objecting to this new job description is a bigger problem than accentuating the religious, cultural and social fault lines of the Indian society, by making absurd promises of 9-18% reservations for Muslims?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I guess you can not differentiate between “gali ka goondas” and “naxals” operating in interstate borders or even getting supplies across the border.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And I am sure you have lost all sense of balance and proportion.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It worried me from the day one, when first whisper was made.

    After watching yesterday’s link “Aapas Ki Baat – With Najam Sethi – INDIA & PAK 1947 to 2011 Facts” , it reconfirmed my fear that our nationhood is slowly being destroyed the way it happened with Pakistan.

    And the BJP is its sole architect !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay

    It is to be seen how many of the chief ministers of the Naxal affected states gang up with him – in the name of federalism and state power.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manhoar/Sanjay

    States are not only confronting with center where security is concerned, they are also challenging center on other matters too.
    Yesterday I had read a news where Jaya Lalita and Mamta Di
    had sent a letter to PM about some dispute on tax refunds.
    Earlier we never use to read such stories about states
    confronting/challenging center on such issues.
    I will try to find a link to the tax issue and will post it later.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Debates on Tax and budgetary allocations are still okay.

    We must learn where to draw a line.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    Frankly I do not know why Mr. Patnaik and Mr. Modi have raised the security issue with center as
    I have not read the full details. I was trying to draw
    the attention that recently we are seeing state governments challenging center on many issues
    which was not happening earlier.

    Anonymous Reply:

    All this started with the BJP nudging Mamta saying ” a secy level bureaucrat can bypass her”…Mamta being “newbie” in the power game fell for it. Then Jaya and Pattnaik joined in….. Honestly Modi was not in favour of these silly things. I guess he had to fall in line with the central leaders’ stupid opposition ideas just for the heck of it. Then one thing leads to another.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    I can only smile at your response.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The relations between various political parties are at the lowest level – all parties need share the blame, hence this confrontations day in and day out.

    Now perhaps non-congress parties perhaps think that they have a weapon to ensure Congress party’s defeat in the next general elections, when they can go to the electorate and say look these guys are useless, they did not do anything worthwhile. This is my reading of the situation.

    Regarding the tax issue, the states have been opposing the Goods & Services Tax for the last so many years. If that this implemented, the issues raised by the two ladies would not be there.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay and Manohar,
    A couple of questions…….
    We already have NCTC being rolled out. Now the BSF law. Remember , all this is over and above the every state with its own security and intelligence apparatus. Are we clearly and stealthily trying to minimise the role of state police’s mechanisms in war on terror ? If so, what distinct advantage is it expected to yield ? Thirdly, what provisions does the law have to guard against abuse ? Fourth, now read this carefully, BSF is not exactly known to be running a strong intelligence arm. So, sans the intelligence capability – what makes BSF really capable and justified to carry out countrywide arrests and searches ? Just the interrogations ? Plus do we see how we are creating the same set of problems we were trying to solve with NCTC ? So, what gives ?
    Lastly and most importantly – where is parliamentary oversight in all this ?
    Would love to see a detailed response on this.
    BTW, this is not about Mr. Modi , he just happens to have raised the issue. Let us rather keep him out of discussion and discuss the core issue.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BSF has a peripheral role. They are looking for special power in Naxal hit areas.

    NCTC has all compassing role.

    State police is not at all trained to handle all these. Because they never upgraded themselves, they have been marginalised.

    I also invite you to go through NCTC website for the details.

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  • Anonymous

    @ all the congress lovers

    What is your esteemed opinion of former Indira gandhi house –lady Pratibha Patil taking land 2-6 lakh sqft which was meant for housing 800 jawans and then building a massive luxury palace.

    Is it just rewards for loyalty Congress style?

    Crores caught in cash from her son

    226 crores spent just on her travel

    Wah re Congress !!

    No wonder everyone wants to be a nauker of the royalists.

    Here is a sher…

    Saanson ki zaroorat hai jaise
    zindagi ke liye…

    Naukar banna zaroori hai waise
    loot machchaane ke liye…. !!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Instead of having dinner with Amar Singh, I request you to have a dinner Najam Sethi. He has very interesting take on India. Stuff that happened before you learnt the P’s and Q’s of politics. I am sure his analysis will help your chest swell with pride as Indian.

    Else check out the link “Aapas Ki Baat – With Najam Sethi – INDIA & PAK 1947 to 2011 Facts” that was listed on this blog last night.

    You will find the love within.

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    Ravi Reply:

    I did, and I was very impressed with his analysis and conclusions. I have long been a fan of Mr Sethi.

    However, I have a feeling that he presents a liberal and acceptable face of Pakistan which is of no use to all the Islamophobes here. Hence he is seldom mentioned in contrast those Pakistanis who have been manipulating and fabricating Pakistan History get at least one airing in every blog.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A liberal face is of limited use unless Pakistanis themselves are proud of that face and endevour to follow him. Unfortunately even Nawaz Sharif sent him to prison and caused damage to his publication.

    In that context Najam was forced to defend Musharraf… who by all standards was a dictator.There is a subtleness in my whole take on the Paksitani establishment which is in concurrance with what Najam says.

    I lampoon its general who put him in prison in 1984. I hate its brutal torture of baluchistanis– again a casue Najam takes up.

    And I firmly beleive that this is the time– of internationally isolting the Paksitanis and ramming fhrough our advantage , rather than bailing a wailing, failing entity which gives more importance to Dawoods and Hafeez Saeeds than to peace with India.

    The Congress is on the path to do something which will probably make Indira gandhi curse from heaven.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Western countries will never isolate Pakistan. They
    are more worried about India become powerful nation.
    Already they are having problem handling powerful
    China, they do not want any other nation also reaching
    that level. They need Pakistan to keep India under check. It is all together another matter that our politicians are very busy looting our country and they
    have no interest in make India a powerful nation.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I have the highest respect for Najam and for his wife Jugnu. Though I have not had dinner with them, I did meet them for a few minutes at a writers conference at habitat.

    I have always told Pakistanis that they shhould remember they are from the land of Nadeem Paracha and najam Sethi and not from that of Jinnah and Hafeez Saeed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Never tell them they are not from the land of Jinnah. You will lose their attention in no time.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Never tell them they are not from the land of Jinnah. You will lose their attention in no time.

  • Anonymous

    The End Of Johnnie Walker
    ======+++++++==========

    KILMARNOCK – The last bottle of the world renowned whiskey Johnnie Walker is being filled and with it the company Diageo will close the factory’s doors … forever.

    For Black or Red label whiskey lovers, the news comes as a slam to the forehead with a brick. So does it for the 700 employees that still work at the Kilmarnock, Scotland, factory were the legendary whiskey has been brewed and bottled since 1820.

    For the Scottish community the news has been equally unsettling and protests against the closure have been plentiful. But even Scottish Premier Alex Salmond was unable to convince Diageo to keep the factory open and the tantalizing liquor flowing.

    The company had already announced in 2009 that it planned to close the Johnnie Walker factory. Of the 700 employees, 430 accepted a departure severance pay, about 200 of them found work at other jobs within the company and 82 employees were terminated.

    The last bottle of Johnnie Walker to roll off the assembly line will be on display at a museum that is about the history of the brand.

    The very first Walker’s Kilmarnock Whisky bottle was sold in 1820.

    It is the most widely distributed brand of blended Scotch whisky in the world, sold in almost every country with yearly sales of over 130 million bottles.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    April fool… yaan owners ne zaida pi lee kya?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    This is fake news. I saw this about a month back.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Must be heartening to all Johny Walker lovers!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Yes it is. Though I drink all sort of brands but my regular
    is Johny Walker Black label.

    Ravi Reply:

    Last time I drank Whisky we were in a different century.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Whiskey peene ke liye bhi kismat chaiye.
    Sorry to to say but you are an unlucky guy.

    (: (:

    Ravi Reply:

    Either unlucky or just poor…take your pick

    Anonymous Reply:

    The censor is apparently from the American jack Daniells camp and has removed this.

    Or maybe he likes Johny walker… and feels, “Yeh rumour hai… sach nahin… censor karo censor karo…”
    ..

  • Anonymous

    With folded hands, Sibal to Oppn: Help pass education Bills, children’s future at stake

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/with-folded-hands-sibal-to-oppn-help-pass-education-bills-childrens-future-at-stake/936855/0

    Excerpts

    There are as many as 14 education Bills pending, some for over two years. These include Bills to stop malpractices in educational institutions; to set up an accreditation authority; to establish a tribunal to decide on education-related disputes; and a Bill to allow foreign universities to set up campuses in India.

    ————-

    “The fact is that in the Rajya Sabha we don’t have a majority. And, if somebody says, look, we will not pass the Bills, we will not even have them debated…what do we do? I have reached out, I have talked to leaders of the Opposition…I have gone to some of their houses.

    I have been to (BJP leader S S) Ahluwalia Saheb’s house. I said please tell me what your objection is. He said, no, we don’t have any objection. This order (to oppose the Bills) has come from above,” Sibal said.

    —————-

    “Great”, orders from above! Must say the principal opposition party is truly living up to its status – opposition party. Children and their future be damned, opposing bills (for the sake of it) is the most important task.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    This is sad.

    Do you think that these Bills will pass before the next election or the strategy is to stop them from being passed and then if the BJP led coalition wins the next election then kill them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Then they will not kill them, but pass them and take credit.

    When the Nuclear bill was being debated, there was a ’story’ doing the rounds that the BJP was opposing it, because that historic treaty with the USA would not have L K Advani’s ’signature’.

    Remember, the Nuclear Bill was initiated during the NDA regime and the UPA carried it to its logical conclusion. Instead of being part of the show and in the limelight, the BJP decided to sulk and oppose it tooth and nail. They paid a price in 2009, as the committed BJP supporters were aghast too.

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    Ravi Reply:

    I think SULKING is a significant tool in the armoury of BJP.

    Anonymous Reply:

    They have been sulking since 2004, when an Italian waitress ……………………

    Ravi Reply:

    Is that the same as fascist waitress

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi

    Wait. I have another theory – they are opposing the education bills, because the BJP thinks that these bills will usher in ‘Italian’ education. Now how can they (being so nationalistic and patriotic) allow such bad ‘phoren’ things (*) to pollute the minds of our children.

    * have you forgotten the personal life of the ex-Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi? Taubaa, taubaa, we do not want our boys to be like him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    This is just politics being played out in open. Mr. Sibal meets some
    opposition leaders in private and discloses their conversation to the media.
    He is trying to convey to the public that opposition is
    not allowing them to do the ‘good’ work.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If you think Sibal is not telling the truth, S S Ahluwalia has the recourse to sue him, if that reported conversation is Sibal’s imagination. He has said publicly, hasn’t he?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    How many times we have heard politicians saying something
    and denying it latter or claiming that this was taken out of
    context. We have never heard actually any politician suing
    another politician for these ‘petty’ matters. This is just trying
    to pass the buck towards opposition. Normal regular politics.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Let us wait and see.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    that is the mean side of Kapil Zero Loss Sibal. The other is he is very haughty, arrogant and always very argumentative, bigger version of Manish Tiwari.

    If he gets off his high horse once ion a way, and appraoches the opposition with humility and sincerity like Pranab Mukharji and Kamal Nath or even Jairam Ramesh, his bills will sail through the house like a lark.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Humility and sincerity do not go along with Mr. Sibal.

    Ravi Reply:

    and that is reason enough to stop education bills from passing?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like the future (children) of the country be damned.

    Now, only if Modi had been the Prime ………………

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar/Ravi,

    Making fun of me guys ? No problem, I can always take a joke, but education is not a
    joke. I had provided a link on this bill yesterday. There were two points of note worthy
    In that article. First was that private schools are being asked or should I say forced to
    reserve 25% of seats for poor children. Very noble thought I would say, but who is going to pay for them? Government does not say that they will bear these expenses.
    Private schools won’t pay as they are in this business for profit and not for charity.
    That leaves the remaining 75% of the students, now why they should be burdened
    with this extra expense. Another point was that about 80% of the schools are run by
    government where almost no education is being imparted to the needy children of our
    country. Why does not the government pay proper attention on improving these schools.
    Schools are there, teachers are there who are paid salary every month, books are provided, food is provided but the only
    thing which is not provided in these schools is Education.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Private schools get land at a very concessional rates like Hospitals. They too have social responsibilities.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    Yes, private schools get land at concessional rates and this is also open
    secret that they have to bribe officials and politicians to get this land at low
    rates. Once a bribe is paid then they will extract that from other sources.
    In this case also if they are forced to admit 25% of students freely then that money
    lost by them will come from remaining 75%. They are not going to pay from their pocket.
    Students who are already burdened with high cost of private education will
    have to pay more because our government is not keen on imparting education
    from the already existing government schools.
    Already preparing for 2014 election by bringing in appeasing vote buying policies.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Nobody is making fun of you.

    The fees of the 25% seats would be borne by the Central & State governments.

    Improving standards of the existing government schools are (should be) also on the cards – these schools are under the state governments, municipalities, panchayats and other local bodies. Perhaps the central government can chip in with the funds.

    Ravi Reply:

    So BJP uses personal relationships and individual ministers character to determine which bills will be opposed and which ones will be allowed to be passed.

    The future of Indian Education is held hostage by the BJP simply because they do not like Kapil Sibal.

    You know what, that is so absurd that it is almost believable.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ‘that is so absurd that it is almost believable’.

    Brilliant.

  • Anonymous

    Terrorists atttacked Bano centarl jail in Pakistan yesterday, releasing 400 plus Jehadists in the jail.

    Some of them will sure find their way to India.

    Time to listen to Najam Sethi not yet-

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    How many are you expecting to reach Kerala?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How many were there in Mumbai on 26/11?

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    Why don’t you tell us.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That is a good one …that Digryodhan requested them to be released.

    Ravi Reply:

    I am sure he did.

    The break in was just a drama to fool the public.

    The reality is that Congress will loose the next election. To stop the blame for that being attributed to Rahul, Sonia instructed Digvijay to make a request for some terrorists to come to India and create a mayhem.

    MMS will then call an election at a date when anti-government and anti-congress feeling is at its height.

    Job done, anti-India government did what ant-Indians do. Invite muslims to terrorise innocent peace-loving yogic Indians.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    I have feeling that they dont listen to Digroydhan Singh… they command him! unlikely that the COngress asked for the release…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi

    “Digvinash Singh made to the Pakistan government to release these terrorists|.

    with the added proviso that they be trained and sent across to attack India.

    The request has been carried across by Mani Shankar Iyer, with the personal blessings of ‘The Family’.

    Some people are really unpatriotic, non-nationalistic, jehadis, fake, sickular that translates as anti-Hindutvawadi.

    <(-;;-)

    Ravi Reply:

    :) , :) , :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well well well. I am seeing a streak of funny
    side in Manohar, one of the serious blogger .

    Anonymous Reply:

    Today is Sunday, there is little more spare time, so I let my imagination run little wilder and have some fun.
    Thanks, you saw it that way.

    No offence meant.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    No offence taken, in fact enjoyed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi

    This is so far of the mark that you should stick to ghazals and pubs of London :)

    Ravi Reply:

    J G Ballard’s fiction is closer to the truth than any of your imaginative pronouncements.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Verry right Gopi.

    This peace initiative by forgetting Pakistani terror is going to get us the biggest terror dividend. Probably the Congress is laucnhing a pad to exchange Sarbjeet Singh with Afzal Guru who will then be freed.

    Unfortunately Ravi’s jibe below shows how Congressis think. For you a terror attack in Delhi is of same the same shame and horror as if it were to be in Kerala. For a Congressi it is an occasion to divide and rule, :it happened in Delhi… why should it bother you in kerala…”

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    Ravi Reply:

    Vijay

    It was a compliment, I expect Gopi to even know the addresses of all the Safe Houses in Kerala. After all he knows who voted for whom and who was given which portfolio not because of simple politics but because of a carefully contstructed strategy of appeasement.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    O come on!! You were implying that the jehadis who were freed thru jailbreak probably would only attack North India and Europe or be active in Pakistan and were unlikely to attack Kerala.

    Admit it and get over it. Period

    Ravi Reply:

    I was over it the moment I clicked on SEND.

    The question is are you over it?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    Absolutely right about “let Delhi stuff stay in Delhi, why should it bother Kochi people” ….Congress is selective about their “what happened in Vegas stays in Vegas” strategy..

    A real cruel thing happened here few months ago in a town called Perumbavoor . A pregnant cow was slaughtered by three Muslims (with Mullahs blessings etc) in front of a temple, in the shadow of the temple banyan tree. People gathered through word of mouth, tied up the three people and handed them over to police. There were thousands of people, a real tense situation. None of the channels reported, not even as a scrolling news leave alone as a breaking news. The press council decided (at the request of the CM based on the DSP report/request) not to broadcast for the fear of communal riots – a good decision. (I am sure Ravi will ask how I knew if it was suppressed)

    They, the Congressis decided that what happened in Perumbavoor should stay in Perumbavoor.

    But no, no for post Godhra. There were ten year anniversary “celebrations” organized by Congress, Leftists (Muslim league did not, so I give credit to them) —- “never again, never again, we will not let some thing like that in kerala”…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think there is a deliberate policy to fan communal tensions in case you can get votes out of it. Period.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Verry right Gopi.

    This peace initiative by forgetting Pakistani terror is going to get us the biggest terror dividend. Probably the Congress is laucnhing a pad to exchange Sarbjeet Singh with Afzal Guru who will then be freed.

    Unfortunately Ravi’s jibe below shows how Congressis think. For you a terror attack in Delhi is of same the same shame and horror as if it were to be in Kerala. For a Congressi it is an occasion to divide and rule, :it happened in Delhi… why should it bother you in kerala…”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    Naveen Patnaik has released maoists too. What about them? What will they do?

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  • Anonymous

    Manohar and Mohan,
    Back to Big Retail, FDI and all that…..
    Let us start from the first principles.
    What does a new line of business basically rely on ? Two themes – either convert non-consumers to consumers or disrupt the existing status quo to its own gains. (More ofthen than not , it is a combination of both , but that is besides the point….).
    What do we see Big Retail doing ? Is it increasing the consumption or it is just merely changing the pattern of sourcing for consumption ? As an example – let me ask this , what do we see being set-up here more ? Groceries, Electronics Goods , Apparel et al. correct ? We don’t yet see – for instance – “Toys R Us” setting shop here. Are these something people were not buying earlier ? Further ahead, do we see some things that people have started consuming which they never did earlier ? My argument is – no. What this essentially means is – somewhere there is going to be capacity consolidation happening , mostly translating into job losses. But then again, my argument is as good as yours since I am as much looking at anecdotes as you are.
    Guess, we may be agreeing on dis-agreement here.
    p.s. for Manohar : Thanks for the Sahara India info. This is what I was hinting at when talking about increasing the outreach. Incidentallly, my hunch is – they will probably start rolling this out in a controlled fashion starting steadily scaling up their supply chain.
    p.s. for Mohan : Agree with you on the higher entry barrier for becoming a vendor with these chains. There is another aspect here, for the stability of their own supply chain they need to maintain some level of redundancy in sourcing (hence multiple vendors). A fair game would see the vendors being sourced from uniformly , however that rarely happens. A bit of favouritism with procurement folks is more of a norm.
    p.p.s: My responses will be bit sparse given the current workload.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    I do not have a problem with Big retailers per se. Few are already here
    and more will come, they cannot be stopped. The problem I have is when
    people talk about advantages they will bring with them. More jobs will be
    created, things will get cheaper and farmers/small vendors will get better
    prices and all that. Nothing of this sort will happen and if India keeps
    on growing at 7-8% p.a and we keep on producing children at our normal
    speed then they along with corner kirana shops will keep on doing good
    business. But if India grows at around 4-5% which is more likely scenario
    than things will be different and actual fun will start. Blaming foreign companies, big retailers, we should buy all swadeshi things and may be
    demonstrations outside these big outlets. Anything is possible in our country.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Mohan

    I agree with you that Western countries operate in the calculus of self interest. Sadly India moves in the grid lock of a bleeding heart unable to see that our self interest lies in the current situation, where the Principle maalik of Pakistan– the US — is exasperated with it and is now moving towards dissecting Pakistan into Paluchistan and Pakhtoonistan, surely but slowly…

    We need to implement this policy, instead of bailing out a failed state which will repay our generosity by sending more killers here.

    When the US leaves Afghanistan, it will ultimately still fear an Osama type attack. They now know that Osama and hafeez are the 21st century versions of Jinnah’s theories. Well there are chances that they may need to cripple Pakistan’s nuclear extablishment as a parting session of lovemaking… but covered with a few billion dollars of aid.

    India with its policies framed by duds like SM Krishana will only unleash bleeding hearts who will cry if US and NATO tighten the screws on the recaliterant republic of Pakistan. You can hear the sobs of a few bleeding hearts on this blog itself.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Overall I agree with you. But even if BJP was in power, do you think they will
    have courage to make a policy of zero relation with Pakistan? Someone has to
    think out of the box and come to this conclusion that India should completely
    boycott Pakistan as any relation with them will ultimately harm our country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “…even if BJP was in power, do you think they will
    have courage to make of policy of zero relation with Pakistan?…”

    That was another Friday.
    There is a new movie releasing this Friday.
    Next Friday, it would be different, or re-run of the old one.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Sanjay

    For most Indians, there can only be one friday– The Friday times.

    Unfortunately the peaceniks are in a hurry to forget that Paksitan laucnhes terror on India and then conveniently says, “assi thodi kitta si… O ji no state actor haige ji…”

    Unfortunately the way they defended Hafeez Saeed in the US courts and Shuja Pasha… it was so much out in the open that both are State actors. ISI being the surname of LeT.

    One and samething…

    I am asked as a consutant to contract negotiate once a while.
    I am afraid, this contract negotiation being done by the COngress is a sham to give respectabilty to Zardari, (who is definately a nice guy among whores), But it does not take care of India’s interest as as usual we are forgetting the tedrror and bargaining for peanuts.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pakistani said :

    “…”assi thodi kitta si… O ji no state actor haige ji…”…”

    And what did Vajpayee reply to the Pakistani in the bus to Lahore ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I know… UPA has to learn from NDA.

    When a team as adept as Vajpayee and jaswant could be back stabbed… then can they, a team as innocent as MMS and as lost as SM Krishana and as unaware of he world as Rhul, ever dream of negotiating with our vile, tricky neighbour.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “…When a team as adept as Vajpayee and jaswant…”

    -

    Advani Saab ! Koi Vishesh tippni?

    Advani : Don’t ask me about them !! They never keep the Dy Prime Minister, Home Minister and Chairman of the committee on National Security informed about anything. They are hardly known as team players….@# ! Perhaps they thought they needed to inform 3 people ! They forgot I was all in one ! They had to inform only me not 3 ! And you call them a team !

    In my whole life I never seen a PM and Foreign Minister team like this who does not keep his Dy PM and Home minster informed about major cabinet decisions.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Compare him as Home Minister to Shiv raj Patil (vastu purush) and P Chidambaran (scam purush) and then Gita par haath rakh kar… haazir naazzir ho kar yeh kaho ki honest or effective kaun

    Anonymous Reply:

    We will talk about Advani some other time…the space is getting narrower and I need to rush out.

    But I promise You will not be disappointed.

    It wont be anything less than what was there for Vajpayee for Jaswant.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thank you! I am preparing myself for an outing… tennis followed by beer and dinner out with interesting company… but maybe would be ack late on the net…

    Ravi Reply:

    I plan to defecate in the next hour or so.

    Anonymous Reply:

    when the terrorists sent by our friends from Pakistan were killing people like flies in Mumbai on 26/11, our Home Minister was changing his safari suit for the third time that day. And he sent the Rapid action force from Delhi to Mumbai after 8hours!!!!!!

    It was this fetish for looking good to Sonia Gandhi, of course that cost Patil his chair and brought disrepute in heaps.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And a State minister had said about terrorist attack that
    aisi choti choti baatein to hoti rahti hain.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right.
    Now we have a home minister who puts secret mikes under the table of the finance minister and snoops! Bloody snoops!!!!!

    Two top guns of the MMS team fighting in public on some leaked documents!!!!!!!!!!!

    The Foreign minister doesn’t know an Indian jail from a Pakistani jail!!!!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    And above all there is Brahmin Yuvraj who claims that RSS is a terrorist organization
    and LET is a benign social NGO.

    Anonymous Reply:

    By the way you may make fun of Vajpayee’s oratory…

    but Vinod Sharmaji, highlights it as a high point in his life, especially the speech at minar-e-Pakistan.

    You can see it higlighted in the bodata of Vinod Sharma of this blog.

    Anonymous Reply:

    God bless Vinodji .

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde.

    speaking in forked tongue comes easily for politico-jounalists.

    Ravi Reply:

    as opposed to abberasive tongue of those who oppose for the sake of it

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think jaswant Singh made one hell of a good foreign Minister. For the First time in my life i saw an Indian FM open his mouth in public, rather than mumble mumbo jumbo as the present incumbent does.

    That we have such a bad, terrorist neighbour may make it necessary that we keep a check on it and mould the internal happenign s there through cultivating politicians and manouvering RAW to change things.

    Unfortunately the present engagement is about blind love with a suicide bomber.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Perhaps you need to read some of his books.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The first and only activity/initiative regarding Pakistan is denuking them. However we can do it – alone, with US, with US and Israel – we should pursue that with razor focus. Home Minister talks, PM talks etc are just “bagwas” ..

    It is really strange that Israel has never openly stated that Pak nukes will go to terrorists and will be used to annihilate them, although they are worried about an existential threat a ‘what if” Iran bomb possesses. .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    Your insight into the necessity of de-nuking Pakistan has inspired me to work on abook on this. Hopefully i will find a publisher !!

    I think you are right. This is work to be done with razor focus. our security establishment unfluenced by dunces like Digvinash Singh use Pakistani terror to settle pollitical scores in India. I doubt whether the UPA even thinks terror is a threat..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    you are absolutely right about SM Krishna. Once he read the speech of the Spanish minister in the UN and couldn’t care less till he reached the end.

    He may very well sing this song:
    “Jaate the jaapaan pahunch gaye chin samajh gaye naa
    yaane yaane yaane (wig se) pyaar ho gayaa…..”

    About the recent release of Chisti too, he announced in the parliament that Pakistan has to do something about it. He didn’t even know that Chisti is a Pakistani held prisoner in an Indian jail!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think he is a bit off track. maybe a bit senile now. We need smart, fast acting, adept FM’s. Parthasarthy of the IFS would be my choice

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  • Anonymous

    Is this Ballard chap another converted jihadi like you?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am about to leave… But I request Ravi not to defecate on the blog… though I must say rather dtrange time, even by GMT.

    I hope he keeps healthy bowl habits.

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    Ravi Reply:

    My bowl habbits are synchronised to your Playing and Eating habbits.

    I wish to know what you eat and play just as much as you need to know when I defecate

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  • Anonymous

    Gopi,

    you must give it to these congressi trolls. When it comes to their leaders, they know who is in cahoots with the LeT and its sponsors.

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  • Anonymous

    For Pakistanis like you, everything happening in Indian parliament looks absurd. no surprise there.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Indian Parliament does’nt but YOU the frookhabadi aam ki guthli does

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  • Anonymous

    zxzxzxzxzxzx

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  • Anonymous

    You are definitely drunk now while posting this.

    You were in a different country, not century. (may be Tora Bora?)

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    Ravi Reply:

    I thought I was in Nagpur

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  • Anonymous

    is that why my posts are being censored? That my jokes are not on women and wives?

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  • Ravi

    At least I am not in a different universe to everyone else, as you are

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  • Ravi

    No more like a Saffron Fundo like you.

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  • Anonymous

    The future is federal
    Meghnad Desai

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/the-future-is-federal/936814/0

    When he turned 70 in 1959, Nehru said he wanted to retire. But his party would not let him. His last five years were much troubled, especially with the China issue plus a Defence Minister accused of under-arming the Forces (sounds familiar?). With the decline in Nehru’s power, a syndicate of regional leaders emerged: Kamaraj from Madras, S K Patil from Bombay and Atulya Ghosh from Calcutta (as these places were called in saner times). The syndicate was a sign of the regional powers arriving in Delhi to wield their clout.

    The power of the syndicate was ended by Indira Gandhi in seven years when she split the party and inaugurated the era of personalised centralisation of power. But this experiment failed within eight years in 1977. The Janata was the federal solution but it failed miserably. In the next eight years, the Congress one-person rule was revived but again it collapsed in 1989. Since then we have had fragile coalitions, some surviving the full term but not all.

    —————

    Read on.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    Last night I watched Najam Sethi describe 10 Blunders Pakistan made. Fascinating viewing. As I was watching it I could not help thinking that if such a programme was to be made in India, then what would such a list contain.

    Do you think splitting of Congress and The Emergency would be in that list.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I will not label either of them as blunders. In fact, congress became stronger after the split between O (oragnization) and I (Indira). The I faction became more popular won huge number of seats before emergency and after emergency…..

    The biggest blunder, from a country perspective, I believe, was Nehru’s intransigence with socialism and not listening to other opinions like Rajaji/MinooMasani etc on alternatives.

    The second blunder (I do not know if it can be called blunder, ebacuse she was quite calculative about this) was Indira Gandhi politicizing bureaucracy and bringing in money influence (both contributed to her electoral victories after the split, but damaged the polity for ever); the third one was her grooming Sanjay as a successor (which gave the sycophants the idea that Rajeev should be made PM .

    As I always maintain, Nehru and Indira created three generations of poor people in India, not deliberately or because of ill-will, but because of totally misguided policies..Indian entrepreneurialism should have been given an opportunity to flourish rather than waiting till 1995 for liberalization.

    Come to think of it, the biggest blunder we did as a country was preserving the ICS bureaucracy (renamed as IAS), a bureaucracy taht
    was designed as a command and control rganization to support a remote king/ a centralized authority….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    imposing socialism on an illiterate, poor, newly independent nation was indeed the greatest blunder. Keeping the population underfed, illiterate and proliferating too was an equally condemnable blunder.

    That the congress party has never consciously given up socialism and its other pet obsessions like non-alignment can be proved by the treatment (ill-treatment would be more appropriate) meted out to Narasimha Rao, the un-sung hero of a truly modern India.

    If we look at the food situation and the huge population that is deprived of food, our servile mentality bred during the Nehru era will again send us round the world with the begging bowl in hand, like during the Nehru years.

    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS

    Absolutely right.. In fact, the whole energy on non-aligned movement was such an inappropriate priority for a country struggling to feed itself.. Nehru always wanted to be a world statesman instead of an Indian PM.

    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    Here on this issue, Najam Sethi dis-agrees and says that Pakistan lost out by being a US ally whereas India learnt to stand on its own feet by being non-aligned.

    I think Najam is correct.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji/Shenoy/Ravi,

    Very interesting discussion. I am enjoying it .

    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    Interesting. Taking events out of their context and re-evaluating them with 20/20 hind sight is fraught with risk.

    For instance, had Indira been sidelined by the old guard then we would not have the pleasure of Vijay forever harping on about the Family and servile mentality. But then we may not even have had the splitting of Pakistan into two.

    Had we got rid of IAS then what would have replaced it. How can one retain the bureaucracy but get rid of the bearcats. I am not sure that a young India, which had only the British made National institutions, could have quickly evolved new indigenous institutions in the 40s and 50s. This has to be viewed within the context that by then we already had a hostile neighbour.

    At senior level bureaucracies around the world are politicised, in fact in the US they are actually appointed by the President and they often come from the same party as Him. In that respect Indira did not do anything un-usual.

    Creating Poor – Now that is an interesting one. I guess your anti-socialism stance would have found those policies un-acceptable, but in my view that is what the country needed then. A degree of protectionism as well as not sacrificing the long-term for short termism is the reason as to why we are as strong today as we are.

    Anonymous Reply:

    U r right, that would have deprived Viju of one of his rants.

    While a new country could not start with a blank slate (well, we took time to formulate the constitutition), a vision should have been set in consistent with localized democracy, panchayats, blocks etc. A time frame should have been set to transition to a new system, may be in the model of US Bureaucracy (limited ), responsive and responsible to people.

    The increasing government involvement, Socialism, has only resulted in increase in scope and scale of corruption, and only marginal improvement to the citizenry.

    Yes, govt has a role, but government cannot create jobs for 1 plus billion people — It has to come from private investment. Government should not be in fertilizer business, hotel business, liquor business ( the state govt runs liquor business in kerala!) etc etc Of course they should have regulations regarding these, strict enforcement…

    Govt can be in certain sectors, such as defence production (look at what they have achieved in 60 years, if we were good, we will not be having the discussion about Tetra or Bofors)

    History speaks for itself. Our growth started after PVN Rao and MMS were forced to liberalize in mid 1990s. Until then we never exceeded 4%, with most of the years below 3%. Now for the last 15 years we have growth in the range of 7,8, 9, 10 % -

    India’s socialist approach to problem solving has created only corruption — just l;ike in all other socialist countries.

    Ravi Reply:

    I am not convinced that lack of growth in those days was a direct result of socialist policies.

    More due to protectionism and an economy that was not open. Our growth is fuelled by our ability to speak English and the general realisation in the west that BO is a win/win situation.

    Simply replacing socialism with full blown capitalism is only a small part of the story.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Protectionism and close economy -
    are they not part of socialism ?
    You may consider this as a silly
    question, but please just imagine that a layman is asking this.

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    USA has many protectionist measures in place and it is not a Socialist Country. There are many such examples including Brazil. In fact hardly any developing economy is free of protectionism and not all are socialists.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Agree with you that the intentions
    of Nehru and Indira Gandhi were
    good, for the betterment of the country but
    they were not farsighted enough to look behind
    socialism. In hindsight, crises in nineties when
    we reached at the brink of bankruptcy was a
    blessing in disguise as we had no choice
    left but liberalise our policies. Then Indian
    entrepreneurs who were waiting for such an
    opportunity took over and rest is history.
    However, looking at the recent events, the
    policies being formed and passed like NREGA,
    Food security bill and RTE, I am wondering
    whether again we are moving towards socialism.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan
    You are right. NREGA, RTE, food Security bill etc are all backward notions, not fit specially at this time, babus will get another huge opportunity to steal (esp with food Security), you already know of the multi multi crore cheating innNREGA in UP….

    If betterment was the objective, let them give contracts with specific measurable goals and cancel if the goals are not met.

    It is time to stop the wastage of precious resources.
    Shoeb had some statistics about how much food is going to be wasted this year!

  • Anonymous

    In Rashtrapati Bhawan ring, NCP throws Sangma hat

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/in-rashtrapati-bhawan-ring-ncp-throws-sangma-hat/936859/0

    With both the UPA and NDA short of requisite numbers, the Nationalist Congress Party has come up with Purno A Sangma’s name for the next president of India. An ally of the UPA, it has sent feelers to the NDA, including the BJP, on the former speaker’s name and is said to be getting a “positive” response.

    “He is a Catholic and a tribal from the Northeast. We have never had an occupant of the Rashtrapati Bhawan with such descriptions,” a senior NCP leader told The Sunday Express. The presidential elections are to be held in July.

    ————-

    Interesting days ahead for Presidential elections.
    Read on.

    ————

    Do members have any suggestions, as to who should ideally be our next President? Is P Sangma a good choice?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    One that people, especially the young ones can look up as a role model – youngsters loved and respected Dr Abdul Kalam — he could motivate them for higher causes.

    Actually why not call him back?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    As per practice, except for our first President – Dr. Rajendra Prasad, no one else has served more than one term.

    As for Dr. Kalam (he is eminently suitable), I do not think it is good idea. Given our current polity, there will be a contest. What if he loses? It would be ignominy for a person, who has been a President.

    Therefore, let us get real and come with names.

    How about Dr. Amartya Sen? Even Mr. P Sangma would be a good choice. He has had a distinguished tenure as a speaker of the Lok Sabha.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, with Sangma, we can check off the Christian box – we never had a Christian President..

    Everyday that goes, I wish the army movement story was true!.

    Anonymous Reply:

    My ‘commiserations’ that your wish has not come true.

  • Anonymous

    Finally the truth has come out that why Shah Rukh Khan was detained
    at a US airport.

    After the release of RA-One a group of 10000 die hard fans of SRK was formed
    in US which was called Tortured by RA-One Club ( TBRC).
    They were disappointed after watching this movie and wanted to complain to
    their hero SRK in a unique style. First they decided to write a letter about the agony
    they had gone through by watching this movie and all 10000 member will sign that
    letter. But this was rejected on this ground that this was a common style of complain.
    Then they decided that all will fly to Bombay and hold a demonstration outside
    his house Manat but that also got rejected because it was too expensive.
    Finally it was decided that SRK also should go through the torture for three hours
    in a different way. When TBRC heard about his arrival in US they approached
    the immigration office of the said airport and requested a help in this case.
    Initially immigration department refused them but after some persuasion they
    decided to watch RA-One. Just 10-15 minutes into the movie and they happily
    agreed to detain SRK on his arrival. We all know what happened to SRK at a
    US airport from our media who understood the importance of this news and are
    still airing it. However, TBRC has lodged a complain with the immigration department
    of the said airport that they did not detain SRK for three hours as they had promised.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Here I am sitting and thinking it was a RA Sa Sa conspiracy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I had told you other day that hamare jasoos charon taraf
    failay huae hain. That is the reason I know the real inside story

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    Ravi Reply:

    Agar hamari yeh naukri jhoot gai, to kya hmein bhi aap apna jasoos bana leingay. Mein apna naam bhi TeesJalebiMaar Khan se Gopi Chand mein badal loonga. Muriedke chord kar Nagpur aa bhi jaon ga.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ravi;
    keep your promises. Pathan bacche ki moonch/ dadhi ka ek ek baal, aur uski jubaan, ek ek million dolar se jyada ki hoti hai. (do not be sensitive again, please…)

    Ravi Reply:

    I promise. Though I am not a Pathan.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    With each post you are climbing the ladder of…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ MOhan

    I would be meeting Shahrukh at the school reunion– he is the official presiding ex student diety. Though he would not recognise me from the canteen boy, I should hand this over to him in a sealed envelope…

    On second thoughts the fight he got in with shrish kunder… would make me think twice. !!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good one.

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  • Pankaj#1

    Friends and Foes(?).
    Work load suddenly increased, will come to blog less frequently. Loss is mine.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    loss is ours…

    Hope u r not losing ur way in vegas…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    So is mine.

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————
    ~~ RETURN ON **** investments in afghanistan today~~ massive suicde bomb attack— on alll ~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————

    Given Chotta baba’s limited vision, he could only see the LeT as no threat to india.

    But India lovers and intelligent people may check out the return on terror investment Pakistan gets daily. Right now all channels have a scroll of a massive massive Taliban suicde bombing attack on Kabul…

    Iss Pakistan ko saare trolls peace ka samundar dekh rahe hai.

    Some trolls will start shouting nagpur right wing, Bjp, Isreal, republican party in case you say let us castrate the ISI

    Engrich the champion of ISI operatoers in India will even say, “nothing wrong… after all the Taliban is spreading a superior religion… so what is wrong in case Hindus, Christians and jews are exteminated. While liberal Muslims sidelined.”

    Other trolls will truy to get Modi Modi rape rape… at the mention of Pakistani terror and ISI.

    Arre o cowards. Kya dushman se itna darr gaye ki talwa chaatna shuru kar diya???

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ROI + Pak + Afganisthan + suicide + bomb + Chotta baba + vision _ LET + Taliban + nagpur + right wing + BJP + Israel + Engrich + ISI + religion + Modi + rape + talwa ….

    Interesting. I lost the count of keywords….. It’s like Agent Vinod taking you on a World Tour for Rs250/-

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    Ravi Reply:

    This is so funny, I fell off my TROLLY.

    I think Vijay is paid by the KEYWORDS.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    RAW satellite remote sensing pictures did show the hills of Tora Bora shaking with someone laughing….

    Ravi Reply:

    So loud was the laughter that earth tremors were felt as far as Nagpur.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think you have an obsession with nagpur and RSS. Is it because of fear that finally nagpur will congquer Tora Bora and Muridke?

    Ravi Reply:

    It takes an obsessive to recognise other people’s obsession. I think you will find that you use the words Tora Bora and Muridke much much more than I use Nagpur.

    But eh, who is counting, certainly not me. Continue to use what comes to your head. It exposes more of you than it does of me.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nagpur is famous for oranges. tora Bora is famous for Charas and opium and uncle osama..

    That is the difference

    Ravi Reply:

    “Oranges are not the only fruit”

    I get my oranges from Seville.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks Sanjay

    You have come back with renewed zeal. Almost like the byline of Dr Abbott;s famous clinic, ” rediscover the new zeal of life after treatment ! ” :)

    That’s what you have to defend. A Chotta baba who smiles at LeT, A congress which wants friendship with Pakistan forgetting the suicde atttacks Paksitan and ISI launch all over hte world, including Afghanistan.

    I am sure you will try to create some spin… but it would be self goal… and in this case… helping the forces of evl from Pakistan!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am sure your book will be as fast paced ? Lines crossing all over…scenes changing with a mind boggling speed !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nothing ever rattles Vijay Kumar. After Leibintz and newton its me who digs out the truth !!

    And to do it with the UPA it is so easy….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sigh !!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh !! Welcome in !!

    Come lets us have some confusing dialogues !! This is going to be a gr8 script…

    5 against one nationalist. Five different streams of thought. One confused, another spinning, one in Tora Bora, one …

    Par the song for the occasion will alwys be

    Saason ki zarroorat hai jaise
    zindagi ke liye

    naukar ban-ne ki zaroorat hai waise
    loot machchaane ke liye !!

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Hum Hai Lajawaab” is all I could discern .

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am trying to help you out of getting carried away by terrorists and surrendering India’s advantage.

    Of course I hope you are willing to help yourself. Even if you want to surrender at least dont force others who beleive in fighting fundamantalists and terrorists to give up…

    Ravi Reply:

    Standard.

    When found out in the process of recycling meaningless clichés which are as full of hot air as a freshly made soufflé, then accuse the other party of un-patriotism and anti-national fervour.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Is there a subsidised rate? You see we are so used to subsidies, so much so that we (only a certain section) bring the planet down, if petrol prices are even increased by 10 paise. ;-)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon manohar, join in the fun. now you have group support… of course you surrender too easily when cornered for naukar type talwa licking, alone…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like people don’t believe anything less than a big package. Perhaps value for money is the order of the day !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon sanjay

    Be a man… throw the ball directly! Five against one is still simple. Nobody can defend being a domestic servant and win.

    nobody can make light of hafeez Saeed, Taliban, terror camps and win.

    Nobody can say that it is all right for the Congress to move away from being a national jewel to become a pvt ltd comapny of the corrupt and win…

    So can you win ever? even if you get all the spin bowlers in the world… and especially in the Congress?
    :) Smilingly yours

    Vijay

    Ravi Reply:

    What is the difference between someone who is a servant of Sonia and someone else who is a servant of Mohan Bhagwat

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon

    You should know better. heil all the generations past and futiure… frankly it is insulting 1.2 billion Indians.

    This is the sort of casteism one has to fight against. This is a democracy… not a naukerrcy !

    Ravi Reply:

    Naukri is naukri, just that you see every one else as naukar, whilst not recognising that you too are a naukar, of a different IMO more dangerous master.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon

    You should know better. heil all the generations past and futiure… frankly it is insulting 1.2 billion Indians.

    This is the sort of casteism one has to fight against. This is a democracy… not a naukerrcy !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Can anybodyelse throw a ball at you as straight as me ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I just checked. I am wearing my guard… so I am safe.

    Though a problem, in case somebody ingests viagra….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Many missing keywords – Digvinash Singh + Mani Shankar Iyer + Rajmata aka Italian (fascist) waitress + Rajiv Gandhi + Indira Gandhi + Pandit Nehru + Naukar + Muridke + Fake + Jehadi + Pakistani + Muslim +Islam + SIT clean chit + Sibal + Chidamabaran + Afzal Guru + Kasab + 2G + 177000 crore + Coal scam + 106700000 crore + …………

    Our resident globetrotter will be a really a confused tourist and would order the services of Shankar Jaikishan + Mukesh + Shailendra to sing

    apanii bhii kyaa zindagii hai niraalii
    jahaa.N gaye Thukaraa_e gaye jaise botal khaalii
    ;-)

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    Ravi Reply:

    Wah wah

    Anonymous Reply:

    Tora bora se Engrich ki aayi aawaz
    Mohabbat zindabad !! Mohabbat zindabad !!

    Ravi Reply:

    और नागपुर से आई आवाज़

    संघ निछ मारके, निछ मारके

    संघ निछ मारके, निछ मारके

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathetic attempt at humour ! Try again ! But I would prefer a kishore Kumar Song…

    By the way what did you gain out of menatlly becoming a naukar ?

    And of course when the terrorists hit India, you would still deem it fit to surrender as hafeez uncle wants you to !

    Ravi Reply:

    More clichés

    Anonymous Reply:

    I did not know that Hafeez Sayeed was your uncle.

    Now we know as to why you think and post they way you do.

    It is a revelation, thanks.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Wow !! It took u 42 minutes to come up with this answer?

    Pretty sad!!

    You have still not answered the basic premise on why you celeberate naukercy…

    Anonymous Reply:

    I did not know you were counting, otherwise I would have responded within 42 seconds. Next time tell me in advance as to how much time I have to respond.

    Me a naukar (though everyone has its uses)? Another one of your revelations. Remember, how you had ’scientifically/technically’ deduced that I was from Goa.
    Your latest deduction must have been also based on sound scientific laws and rules. So far – I am naukar from Goa.

    I look forward to more such revelations about me, which I am totally unaware about. Everyday I come to know more about myself – thanks to you.

    Ravi Reply:

    Has he found out that you are a Jihadi and have been selected by GOI to surrender to Pakistan.

    Anonymous Reply:

    He has yet to tell me that. We must be patient for more illuminating revelations. ‘Scientific’ research and discoveries take time.

  • Anonymous

    Sanjay,
    Back to the topic of BSF Law……
    I am still unable to find anything in your response relating to safeguards against tremondous powers being vested in central security agencies. You may want to relate with acronyms such ISI, KGB , NKVD in recent and not so recent past.
    Secondly, the Intel. arms of Maharashtra, A.P. and at times even Kashmir state Police have had a good track record in intelligence gathering. Dis-crediting their work may not necessarily be a great idea.
    I hate saying this – but every such measure that vests more and more power to the central agencies makes me feel un-easy due to lack of constitutional safeguards. Have we become so lazy that just all our actions have mostly started towards gravitating towards weilding of brute force ?
    p.s.: While I understand what you say about BSF and NCTC, am in dis-agreement with you on it. Will discuss that sometime later.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh

    Permit me.

    May be we need mechanism to deal with matters that have inter-state ramifications, knowing fully well how the (low) level of ‘co-operation’ is between various state police forces. The wrongdoers must laughing all the way to their hide-outs. Why not give them a try and make course corrections as we go along.

    Aren’t there safeguards (constitutional and other) built into the NCTC and BSF Acts?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,
    I understand the problem we are trying to tackle.
    However, problem is with the way we are trying to tackle it. My own apprehension is we might be creating bigger problem in the whole process.
    As for NCTC and BSF acts – I am afraid the letters are far less convincing. Please feel free to point out if I have missed something here.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh

    The proof is in the pudding.

    Didn’t we abolish TADA and BJP’s favourite POTA? In the former case, perhaps we have replaced it with less draconian law (I am not sure though).

    I think the objections are purely over jurisdiction – would it make a difference if BSF or some central security force arrests a suspect person(s) instead of the state police – other than bragging rights? As it is there is severe shortage of police personnel in each and every state and the state home ministries are loathed to augment the force.

    I still reiterate that the intention is to tackle crimes with inter-state ramifications. If there is a misuse, then perhaps the recourse would be the courts.

  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~ WHY MY PREDICTION of further HUGE trouble from Pakistan will be proved ~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————

    As a weak UPA lookign for some international recocgnition prepares itself to lower our guard and let Paksitanis freely into India…. Inida today is reporting that Paksitan’s favourite Non state actor, hafeez Saeed has proudly announced that it would be huge huge trouble for India this year….

    Further on unstated would be the free and easy visa regime announced by the teary eyed UPA which would be essential for uncle hafeez to succeed. of course nobody remembers that David headley first SURVEYD all the properites which were blasted off.

    Since Manohar, Ravi and Mahesh really enjoyed our last dialogues… i will nominate them for recieveing Hafeez and co at wagah !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Wah Wah Wah , Clap Clap Clap !!!!
    BTW, why is Sanjay left out of Wagah trip ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well Sanjay’s pop or grandpop would have crossed Wagah once and deep down he would know why he did so.

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    Ravi Reply:

    It is more likely than not, that my grandpop knew your grandpop.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This is destiny.

    We are fighting on the opposite ends of the blog. Will make a gr8 script

    Ravi Reply:

    My mother’s parents came from Pasroor and my Father’s side from Randhawa. Both are in District Sialkot.

    But as your Guru has successfully taught you, I came from Muridke.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pakistan is a pariah state. We should not ahve any – including people-t-people dealings; visa should eb granted only on sepciic seelcive basis for visiting relatives, holy places etc.

    We cannot have another “bharath yudh”.

    The Kauravas (pakistanis) are given a piece of land, although legally and morally not deserving. Now since they have been given that, and that many a time they have attempted to steal Pandavas land, and as long as that intent remains in them, it is foolish to invite them, give them visas…

    Pakistan and Pakistanis (from a macro perspective) are not like other countries and people as far as India is concerned. The wound may heal after many decades of total cut off; otherwise the wound will be only more painful with 11/26 and similar attacks.

    Chodo unko

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    Let me tell you a brutal truth. Straight from an old guy who worked with Radcliffe.

    When the land was demarcated for Paksitan, the area given to it was , assuming all Muslims would migrate there from India.

    In the end Pakistan refused to take in all the mohajirs.

    We should be happy with our diversity and being a multi religious counrty celeberate islam along with hinduism and christianity.

    But then Nehruji should have also asked for the extra area given to Paksitan duiring partioning.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thank our Bhagwans, that you are not a teacher of History.

    Anonymous Reply:

    you will only understand the histroy of how to be a nauker :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ji haan, maalik.

    I am not lucky as you. It is kismat that I became a ‘naukar’ and you a ‘maalik’. You win, I lose.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Instead of asking for the extra land to be returned, Nehru chacha gifted them further land, almost a third of the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir, not lost in war, but lost by being a peacenik, by calling for a ceasefire in a war which Inida was winning.

    And because this bounty was and is beyond the wildest dream odf the Pakistanis, they are now gifting part of this “gifted” land to the Chinese.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Now I am confused soul.

    Why did our former Prime Minister, Atal Behari Vajpayee and his entourage went over via Wagah? Was it to meet relatives or visit holy places or ……..?

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    Ravi Reply:

    And Advani. Did Jaswant Singh go there as well, or did he only have a book to sell, so he compromised his political principals and created a controversy on advice of his publisher.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Pakistanis – Kauravs. Indian – Pandavs . Wow. Only you could have thought of this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi is our grandmaster to put evrerything in historical context !

    Ravi Reply:

    Who are the Rakshas and who indeed are the VaNars

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I don’t know who are vanars but I am sure about one thing that Ram could not kill
    all the Rakshas, there are still many among us in our country.

    Ravi Reply:

    Hanuman was a VaNar.

    Va as in Van (Forest), Nar as in man.

    VaNar as a man from the forest.

    Which got translated into Bandar, giving him the Monkey Like shape.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I know Hanuman was a vanar and I know what vanar means.

    Ravi Reply:

    Oh OK, so what you meant is that whilst Rakshas are still present among us and you may know a few. You are not sure if we still have Vanars among us and even if they were you do not know any.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Now we are on the same page. What I meant by Rakshas present among us, I was
    referring to criminals, looters, murderers, scamsters, rapists all such characters. And for further clarification I was only referring to India.

    Ravi Reply:

    Oh ok…the Congress Party then.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I thought you understand me better then this.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I remember in one of your old fulminations, you called south Indians rakshasas, because they are all dark.

    I also remember you called me Ravan, because I am a South Indian.

    Ravi Reply:

    Yes ofcourse I did. Just like I helped Hafeez Sayed to come and Bomb Mumbai

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I thought you are asking whether Rakshas and Vanars are still present now.
    Actually I did not take my usual drink today, perhaps that is why could not
    understand your question.

    Ravi Reply:

    If Pkaistani’s are Kauravs, and Indians are Pandavas – as per Gopi – then the question is who are the Rakshas and the Vanars.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    our bleeding heart Pak-lovers will only go where angels fear to tread.

    Here is what the edit in New Indian Express says:

    But India has every reason to be wary of Pakistan, whose ruling establishment has been found sabotaging the Indian economy through overt and covert means, including circulation of fake currency in India and funding terrorist activities in India. The undue hurry with which the Congress-led UPA government has gone about announcing a spate of concessions to Pakistan betrays its unconcern for India’s national interests. In its obsession to mend fences withn in 2010-’11, but there are no two-way investments so far. India granted the most favoured status to Pakistan way back in 1996, but Pakistan dilly-dalli a hostile neighbour, the government seems to have overlooked vital security concerns of India.

    Trade between India and Pakistan was $2.7 billion in 2010-’11, but there are no two-way investments so far. India granted the most favoured status to Pakistan way back in 1996, but Pakistan dilly-dallied on it for several years and reneged after announcing it last November. Even if the challenges posed by trade in goods — in the form of an increasing undercover flow of Pakistani intelligence personnel and jihadi leaders to India — can be handled by our security agencies, trade in services and entry of FDI poses serious threats to national security. This could enable anti-India elements in Pakistan to acquire key presence in sensitive sectors of our economy and disrupt it. Instead of rushing with measures to appease Pakistan at any cost, India must wait for Pakistan to do something tangible to address India’s concerns before moving ahead.

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  • Anonymous

    Ravi

    Your post

    Manohar

    Last night I watched Najam Sethi describe 10 Blunders Pakistan made. Fascinating viewing. As I was watching it I could not help thinking that if such a programme was to be made in India, then what would such a list contain.

    Do you think splitting of Congress and The Emergency would be in that list.

    ————

    Here goes.

    Whenever a country /government sets in motion any policy initiative, one must remember that there is no definite historical precedence to know whether the direction/initiative chosen is the right or wrong. The proof will always be in the pudding.

    Our founding fathers decided in their wisdom to adopt a certain road map of a truly democratic setup (weighing in the known parameters at that point in time). It just turns out that it was seemingly right and there is no way to know whether any other road map would have been more successful, we cannot go back in time and experiment.

    1) Gopi ’s gripe water is that Nehru’s socialist path was judgment in error, but then we realised that it was so only in hindsight. Course correction was done in the early 90s. He says Nehru should have listened to Rajaji and adopted the free market mechanism.

    Was it really a judgment in error? First he must have consulted many other political leaders, intellectuals, the bureaucrats, etc. to arrive at a consensus and then set the ball rolling . In no stretch of imagination one can assume that he took that decision by himself, he was a democrat to the core. That he was socialist at heart must have been a factor. The other factor would have been the lack enough of funds with the private sector and the Government. Sovereign borrowings, grants and aid were easier to get. In the early years, which private sector company or businessman would have been able to set up Sindri Fertilizer Plant or the Rourkela Steel Plant or Vishakhapatnam Shipyard or many other such projects. Reemember there were only two really ‘big’ (relatively speaking) industrial houses then – Tata and Birla. What was in private sector was allowed to function, except for few exceptions – airlines for example – there was motely crowd of too many airline company. Two airlines – Indian Airlines and Air India. The former became a bureaucratic mess and latter (under the chairmanship of J RD Tata) became the envy of the world.

    We still have to know / realise the course correction of the 90s has been a right or a wrong decision, it is still work-in-progress.

    Even Najam Sethi’s brilliant analysis is in a hindsight of 60+ years of history.
    That some of people here are reluctant to watch (or have watched it and are in denial) is a different matter. I know the reason for their denial.

    2) Now coming to what events /blunders we made as we trundled along since 1947. Here is a short list (all my own work and have articulated many times earlier).

    a) We should have devolved more power to our people, empowering the panchayats, muncipalities, talukas, dstricts. We should have less bloated bureaucracy and less of government at the top of the pyramid.

    b) We should taken care of our water resources better and ensured water secuirty for all citizens, especially in the rural areas.

    c) More emphasis on education – it would have been wonderful if the RIght To Education Act had been enacted then. If I can think of other, I will add to the list. Others are welcome to post their views and opinions.

    —————

    Emergency only proved that our institutions had become solid enough to withstand any onslought as unleashed by Indira Gandhi. Wasn’t she compleed to call for elections – she would continued for many more years if she had wished.

    IMO, spiltting of Congress Party was not a factor in our nation building. It was just matter of fight over power. It it had not split, who knows what would have happened.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    I broadly agree with you.

    In one of the responses to Gopi, I did propose caution towards the use of 20/20 hind-sight.

    However, the criteria that Najam used was that these were decisions which set Pakistan in the wrong direction, such as becoming an ally of the US at a time when India chose to become Non-aligned (A Nehru initiative). This Najam says was responsible for India able to stand on its own feet and Pakistan become a basket case.

    I was after such mega decisions.

    Whilst I can see the benefit of empowering as many of our citizens as is possible, I am not sure what India today would have been like, had we done that about 50 or so years ago.

    I am of an age when people used to say, with a sad face, that the man shining your shoes in Connaught Place is a PhD. Time was when our educated did not have sufficient Jobs to go to. However, the Educational infrastructure – as set out by successive 5Yr Plans – laid down the foundations upon which our current 8% growth rests.

    In other words if 50s/60s/70s were the investment phases then 80s/90s and now are the phases when return of those investments is being realised.

    Lets see if other blogers are able to pin point any policy decisions which set India onto a path which +vely or -vely impacted the country as a whole.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Very interesting, let me ponder on this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi & Mohan

    I do not recall any blunders that have bothered us for very long or till today. Perhaps, some of the blunders resulted in consequences that were localised or lasted for short period of time or affected certain section only – given the strength of our institutions, allowing us to make course corrections.

    Some that come to mind.

    1) Indira Gandhi propping up Bhindarwaale and plunging Punjab into a mayhem for close to 10 years. Do you agree?

    2) Indira Gandhi (again) playing electoral fraud in Jammu & Kashmir.

    PS: This is naukar/domestic (or is it domesticated!) servant of the Nehru-Gandhi khandaan speaking

    ————

    However, the blunders we have made that is still bothering us are

    1) very very poor implementation of the laws.
    2) near collapse of the criminal-justice system.
    3) intolerance and bigotry towards dissent.

    The first two above may be related. The point also to note is that these are reversible.

    One has to wonder whether these match up to the severity of the blunders Pakistan made as articulated by Najam Sethi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar/Ravi

    The chain of events from eighties onwards which I believe had a negative impact on India and is still continuing.

    Shah Bano Verdict – then to please Muslims
    Overturn this verdict – then to please Hindus
    Open the gates of forgotten Babri Masjid-Ram Mandir.
    BJP took this opportunity and played its religious card
    of Rath Yatra by Advani .
    VP Singh jumped into the bandwagon with his castiest
    policies through Mandal. Kanshiram and his protege Mayawati
    took further advantage of this and have almost divided UP
    -the biggest state of India – by playing caste based politics.

    All these could have been nipped in bud if what Manohar says
    would not have happened.

    1) very very poor implementation of the laws.
    2) near collapse of the criminal-justice system.
    3) intolerance and bigotry towards dissent.

  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~ REMEMBERING GANDHI WHILE DEBATING ~~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————-

    let me delve into personal history. My grandfatrher was an RSS man… I am not. His experiences in Life were different. The day a mob of 5000 gathered outside his house in Sialkot with only one demand, ” either convert… or get killed…”

    He chose the third way. With help from muslim friends he escaped and boarded the refugee train to India.

    He never forgave hiimself for leaving post without fighting till the end and joined the RSS in Delhi.

    i used to often debate with him since i found the RSS a bit boring and too obsessed with the past, even though I was convinced that its vision was for India and not an inferiority complexed anti India.

    But when he was nearing the end though he felt that Islam had only spread with the sword, he wanted a path of reconciliation where Muslims too looked at india and not at the Arab world for instructions. In the end he was convinced that Gandhi and Ghaffar Khan represnted this.

    And today as India re-engages Paskistan, I fear that we have not learnt our lessons. We have not put any premium for our freindship. We have not talked about the forcible conversions of hindus and other minorities in Paksitan. We have not pressed the accelerator on demanding Hafezz saeed, Dawood Ibrahim, Masood Azhar, lakhvi and other terrorists.

    We have just conceded ground, hoping with love will win them over.

    From the day a college girlfriend left me for a guy with a BMW, I know love does not conquer… but the practicality of life does.

    So even when I am loggerheads with Sanjay ( with who frankly I enjoy debating) Ravi, manohar, Mahesh… I am not going to concede easily.

    And then I have Gandhi on my side. The truth.

    How can anybody battle ofr naukercy, making Congress a pvt ltd comapny and corruption…. and win?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mandir, Masjid, Gurudwaron me baat diya bhagwaan ko
    Dharti baati , Saagar baata – mat baato insaan ko.
    He Ram !!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mahes

    DOnt let your love for cheap Daru and obsession with porn come in the way of understanding rea history and why you should not concede defeat so easily… to Pakistan

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Kitwaa Peg chal raha hai Maharaj ?

    Ravi Reply:

    Mahesh

    Not that I wish to, but please can you inform me as to how does one concede defeat to Pakistan.

    Would we avoid such a catastrophe by recycling a plethora of empty clichés, and repetitively cursing Hafeez Sayed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    http://expressbuzz.com/opinion/editorials/show-no-haste-to-mend-fences-with-pakistan/382485.html

    In fact, we have already conceded defeat.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    On the move now… but last night was fun. 3 aganist one. I think I have managed to convince them deep inside that they have to free themselves out of domestic servant mentality, help us purify the Congress, as well as join i a campaign for not lowering guard against Pakistani terror…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Being a much-domesticated, dutiful family man, I couldn’t share the fun last night.

    I doubt whether these servile trolls can even think of changing their outlook or apply some dawai to their bleeding hearts.

    But, we must move on gamely.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Good article. Agree with the writer
    that we should not be in haste to improve relations with Pakistan.

    Anonymous Reply:

    On cloud 9… on how to drink to life… and not concede defeat to terror… !

    Anonymous Reply:

    I understand this better now that you have posted it totally. Sorry for my jibe about daru…

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  • Anonymous

    _——————————————————————————————————————
    ~~~~ a FINAL SALUTE… TO ALL MY PALS…. and enemies ~~~
    ==================================================================

    Now that I am winding up for the day, let me concede that it was a nice long day at the blog. I lost my tennis game… but enjoyed myself here and filled my glass with 4 pegs of Royal Salute. A close friend was sutitably impressed that I dont give up on principle even when I am alone. Now she is smiling as I type this…

    Fact is I sincerely beleive that India needs to have the balls and resolve to fight terror. never give up even if there are false inducements.

    Remember that Ravan put on vaiorus bhesh…. to tempt Sita our of the lakshman Rekha. ( Now I feel I am learning from Gopi). But frankly, we need to be single meinded in pirsuit of the enemy. Even ruthless.

    This temperory inducvement of peace is going to pretty well yield a terror dividedend. When China with so highly controlled visa regimes faces Pakistani terror… we should prepare ourselves for some huge attacks… curtesy the UPA’s hurry to shake hands.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I did not know that terrorists also apply for visas to travel for their nefarious activities. Thanks for another revelations.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You will of course find it funny.

    Dawood Gilani alias David Headley found it profuoundly funny that Indians were such Dud Heads that they gave him a visa.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Every single one of the terrorists responsible for 9/11 were in the USA with proper Visa.

    However, on the other hand our National Hero Nar…….

  • Anonymous

    A special package for business men.

    An airline introduced a special package for business men. Buy ticket for yourself
    and get your wife’s ticket free.
    After great success, the airline sent letters to all the wives asking them how was the
    trip. All of them gave same reply ‘ which trip?’

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Let me make an honest declaration. I was not ont he trip. was it to pattaya by the way?>

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  • Ravi

    Mohan

    The box had become too samll. I understand you better than that, but you drink better than me.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Anyway it’s very late now . Good night.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Good night

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  • Anonymous

    Shadow is caste

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/shadow-is-caste/937092/

    Excerpt

    Caste organisations like the Nair Service Society and the Sree Narayana Dharma Paripalana Yogam (of the Ezhavas) have turned into self-appointed guardians of “communal equilibrium” and alleged that the tenuous balance in the ministry has been upset by minorities allegedly turning into a majority — 12 Muslims and Christians as opposed to nine Hindus in the cabinet. It has been an unprecedented, public identification of ministers on the basis of the caste and religion they belonged to rather than their political affiliations.

    ————-

    Now where did I hear this sometime ago?

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  • Anonymous

    Peopled by migrant hawkers, dotted with dolls and wares

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article3318288.ece?homepage=true

    Excerpts

    ‘C/o Platform,’ near Green Circle, Katpadi Road, Vellore-632004, could well be the generic postal address of Ramanand and family from Delhi, comprising Ramanand, his wife, son and daughter who have pitched a tent on the pavement here to sell fancy Chinese dolls to passers-by.

    ———–
    Ramanand’s daughter has brought her two little children with her. In their innocence, the tiny tots would often quietly play with a doll until some buyer comes along and clinches the deal. Would they ever make it to a school or turn into child workers, one wonders.

    ————

    Tragic.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    These children can make it to the school only if proper attention is given on running
    of the government schools. A decisive government with sincerity and honesty can
    achieve this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    There are three things the Government must pay attention to
    Rural Development.
    Rural Development.
    Rural Development.

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  • Anonymous

    Give the professor a raise

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article3318068.ece?homepage=true

    Excerpt

    Among the countries that pay the best salaries, there are some that benefit from an inflow of academics from less-wealthy countries. Australia, Canada, the Netherlands, Saudi Arabia, and the United States benefit the most from the migration of academic talent. In contrast, many of the countries paying the lowest salaries are considered “sender” countries and some (Armenia, Ethiopia, Israel and Nigeria) have implemented programmes, in which better salaries and working conditions are part of the strategy to attract or retain national and international scholars. In their quest to build world-class education systems, China and Saudi Arabia are aggressively pursuing international faculty, mostly from English-speaking countries, as well as their own expatriates. In the Chinese case, it has resulted in a big gap between the salary of local professors and international/repatriated ones. Finally, there are countries that are both “senders” and “receivers.” For example, South Africa attracts professors from other African nations, but at the same time it frequently suffers brain drain to English-speaking countries — such as, the United Kingdom, Australia, and the United States.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sir

    Did you read about Afghanistan today as you were laughing about it yesterday, while lost in your nauker like praise for the dynasty?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijai Kumar,

    this congressi troll would have been perfectly at ease on 26/11 also, saying, like RR Patil, the Mah.Home Minister said, “this is nothing big, a few people have been killed”. mAHESH’S Response too wouldn’t have been much different. Remember these very same bleeding hearts are in the forefront of releasing Afzal Guru.

    The case of fake Ravi is slightly different. He is suffering from some psychological trauma, which has made him an avid India hater and willing collaborator of jihadis and anti-India forces.

    And doing naukri of the congress-psychologically of course- comes as a natural corollary to these trolls.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Where as doing NAUKRI of the Yaar Yess Yess comes after a lot of hard wrok. One has wield a lathi for many years in dusty open spaces and utter nonsensical phrases before one gets an oppotunity to attack defenceless individuals.

    I think you need to keep-up with your Jihadi-Phoonk medicine. Missing even one doze sends you into bouts of irrationality

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    India’s capacity for living in a fake world is unmatched. As the UPA lowers the guard to pappie jhappi Paksitan, let us now wait for hafeez Saeed to launch terror attacks,

    Manohar ji was joking that terrorists dont come with visas.

    Remember Mohammad Atta and gang?

    Remember David headley and gang?

    I think Manoharji never read some of the long articles he posted here !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hi,

    I have sent you a personal e mail. Kindly reply when you have some time. Thanks!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijai Kumar,

    this congressi troll would have been perfectly at ease on 26/11 also, saying, like RR Patil, the Mah.Home Minister said, “this is nothing big, a few people have been killed”. mAHESH’S Response too wouldn’t have been much different. Remember these very same bleeding hearts are in the forefront of releasing Afzal Guru.

    The case of fake Ravi is slightly different. He is suffering from some psychological trauma, which has made him an avid India hater and willing collaborator of jihadis and anti-India forces.

    And doing naukri of the congress-psychologically of course- comes as a natural corollary to these trolls.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thank you for ‘knighting’ me, your ‘majesty’.

    Now my name plate reads – Sir Naukar.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    I humbly state that I never claimed that you were Nauker to me. I am sorry if you derived that meaning.

    My contention was that you have to free your mind from slavery of

    a) Royal family worship

    b) Assuming that BJP and RSS are spoiling relations with Pakistanis who are innocent kintergarten kids

    I would also request you to pray that India joins the free world and not SINCUKS (somalia, India, cuba, norht Korea and Saudia) , countries which worship families like naukers.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thank you for ‘knighting’ me, your ‘majesty’.

    Now my name plate reads – Sir Naukar.

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  • Anonymous

    May be this is the right way to bring back disillusioned Maoists.

    Police kindness wins over Bihar Maoist group.

    http://gulfnews.com/news/world/india/police-kindness-wins-over-bihar-maoist-group-1.1008888

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Good news. Very encouraging.

    I hope it is sustained and the reformed ones are sincere in their declared intentions.

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  • Anonymous

    @ All the people who watched the big fight last night :)

    I was basically trying to check the capacity of self dillusionment of manohar, mahesh and Ravi. The extent they would believe that there is nothing caled Pak terror and Islamic terror. It is just a figment of imagination of Islamophonbes, RSS and right wingers to give Pakistan a bad name.

    Even though they will never acknowledge it as long as they are alive… I think some truth has been communicated by me to them.

    However as India prepares to lower guard against Pakistan, getting nothing in return… it is important to check out what happened in Afghanistan yesterday (Manohar was finding it funny !)

    SPRING OF TERROR ARRVIES IN AFGHANISTAN curtesy Pakistan…. read Hindu and Indian express…

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  • Anonymous

    When US pulls out of Kabul, Delhi will have trouble in Kashmir: Hafiz Saeed

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/lashkar-e-toiba-chief-hafiz-saeed-exclusive-interview-with-india-today/1/184350.html

    Excerpts.

    A cut in nato supplies will compel the US-led nato forces to flee from Afghanistan soon. And this will ultimately help the Mujahideen to revert their attention to India-held Kashmir. Let me tell you, a full-scale armed jihad will begin soon in Kashmir after American forces withdraw from Afghanistan. The freedom movement in Kashmir will also gain momentum following the withdrawal of nato troops from Afghanistan. I’m sure India will face a tough time as the Mujahideen revert their attention to Kashmir.
    ———————————–

    How is Indian government going to react to this news ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    With the latest attack in Kabul yesterday, I think the USA will delay its withdrawal from there. Let us wait and watch.

    How stupid of Hafeez Saeed to lay out his plans in the open? Is it just a bluster? What do you think?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I don’t know whether he really means this or just wants an attention,
    but he should be restrained as his word does carry some weight
    among his followers.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    For sure, his word carries lot of weight among his followers.

    The question to ask, whether his handlers/godfathers will give their blessings and assist him – given the fact now there is bounty announced by the USA. which perhaps is with tacit approval of the Pakistan establishment.? Haven’t heard the K-word for quite some time – though it may be too good to last.

    ———

    Here is something to factor in.

    Pak trusts India more than ever: Hina Rabbani Khar

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/Pakistan/Pak-trusts-India-more-than-ever-Hina-Rabbani-Khar/Article1-841190.aspx

    Excerpt

    “We will trust India more in whatever we do. We are clear on this,” Khar told HT. She said although the
    Kashmir issue needs to be resolved, it need not be the point of start. “Our intention is to solve the (Kashmir) problem. But let us start with the less complicated problems. We will deal with our differences in a different mode,” Khar said.

    ————

    Have they become realistic and some good sense has prevailed? Looks like the K issue has been put a few steps back.

    Of course, we should not (and will not) lower our guard. Deal with issues as they come.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    You are a nice person that is why you believe what
    officials of Pakistan state say. I am not that nice,
    I have many vices and one of that is I will never believe any official of Pakistan State.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    we like the way you are.

    If you try to be nice, goody-goody, instead of Mohan, you will look like Manmohan and SM Krishna, one with the pagdi and the other with the wig.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You overlooked my last para.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, God willing, by that time this spineless, stupid, chicken hearted, hare-brained government would be thrown out by the very vote banks who have been promised, for the last sixty years, all kinds of things, but delivered on zilch.

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  • Anonymous

    MOhan

    just proves what I have been saying. That the UPA in a hurry to absolve Pakistan is out to sell Indian Foreign policy goals for a song. I think it is a mindset thing.

    Even on this blog, in a huge debate last night, all the bugbears were pulled out. Kali Topi, NDA, RSS … as if these people were responsible for terror inflicted on India and on Pakistan by Hafeez saeed, Jaish, LeT.

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  • Anonymous

    Cmon Manohar,

    Last night you were convinced that Hafeez Saeed and murderers were innocents framed by NDA ! :)

    I think you should be consistent in your approach. For me LeT is bad… and we need to kill it like a cockroach.

    For you Hafeez Saeed was a harmless joker… so you should assume that his dialogues were Asit Sen type of bluster.

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  • Ravi

    Google Maps & Mother Found

    “She grabbed my hand and took me to her house. She could not say anything to me. I think she was as numb as I was. She had a bit of trouble grasping that her son, after 25 years, had just reappeared like a ghost.”

    Now read on…..

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17693816

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Fantastica.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I read this heart warming story about two weeks back.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks Ravi, a good story indeed

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  • Anonymous

    Beef festival turns Osmania University into battlefield, student stabbed.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/Beef-festival-turns-Osmania-University-into-battlefield-student-stabbed/articleshow/12687608.cms

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    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    Guess who is involved and started the protets.

    Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP) activists staged a protest against the festival and clashed with the organisers. The two groups attacked each other with stones and sticks. Five students were injured in the clashes. Two vehicles were also set afire.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    What ABVP has done up is wrong, I just don’t understand when anybody can eat or drink whatever he/she want why this festival ?

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    Ravi Reply:

    So your disapprove of a festival…meaning eat beef but quitely……I suggest you try and get to a Beer Festival in Munich, or Indian Food Festival in Southbank this week

    Anonymous Reply:

    to institute a beef festival in a place of learning is just to provoke.

    Why would somebody organize a beef festival in a college anywhere in the world, especially in india?

    It si not like Munich beer festival

    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    I do accept that at face value there may well have been some mischief in the mind of the festival organisers. However, is the response to such provocation appropriate.

    The reason I mentioned the Beer festival is because consumption of alcohol is just as much of a taboo in Islam as drinking alcohol is.

    For instance there is no Offy in Muridke, not any that I know.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Why would somebody organize a beef festival in a college anywhere in the world, especially in india?

    Why not? Don’t we eat what we like? Do you mean to say eating and education do not go together? What else should be not be allowed in a place of learning?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Why don’t you impress on Zardari to press Manmohan Singh to beg Sonia Gandhi to oder Chidambaram to ban RSS and ABVP?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Not a bad idea. It has been done before.

    Anonymous Reply:

    and failed every time.
    This time too it will be no different.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Would a “Pork Festival” be allowed to pass peacefully ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    This is what I was trying to tell Ravi. Why festival? It is very easy to create problems
    in our country, why provoke? I hope this just ends here otherwise what you have
    said that may happen, some group will say we want a pork festival at AMU.
    I dread to think what will happen afterwards.

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    Ravi Reply:

    An equivalent to Pork Festival in AMU would be a Beef Festival in BHU, and not Osmania University.

    Ravi Reply:

    In the UK it will and in Isrel, Middle East and Pakistan probably not.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In Pakistan it is not a probability, it is a certainty. Pork is haram for Muslims. I think as a convert, you should have known it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    AK Antony, when he was CM of Kerala, made a remark about minorities misusing the freedom, misusing the special provisions they have just to cause anguish in the majority commmunity. Muslim League objected to this, and they forced Sonia Gandhi to remove him as CM.

    A few months ago, there was an incident here in Perumbavoor, a mid sizze town near Ernakulam. A pregnant cow was slaughtered (by Muslims) in halal style with mullah blessing in front of a temple in the shadow of the temple banyan tree.

    Now why would anybody kill a pregnant cow? Why would one do it near a temple?

    Students organizing “beef festival”/ What type of students are they?

    Let me be very frank based on my travels and observations. There will not be a Gazani and Gori and Tippu on a horseback razing through this soil anymore.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    Are you suggesting that minorities should behave themselves or get out of India.

    Would you know how many girl childs are aborted in Punjab on a daily basis?

    When you have understood What kind of a person can do that, tell me and I will tell that Muslim Butcher who slaughtered a pregnant cow in front of a temple and under a bunyan tree.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This question was to be asked by the minorities themselves in 1947 itself. Having supposedly asked the question and also got the answer, Anthony should be congratulated for being straight-talking and giving an answer to the unanswered question.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not suggesting that.

    you raised a question yesterday or day before about the major mistakes Congress did.

    I forgot to mention — it was the division of the post partition India into labels, mainly into minorities (and majority although not defined), then into linguistic pieces, the slicing continues..

    There should have been only Indians….

    well that is for discussion another day…

    The gruesome atrocity Sinhalese showed to Tamils in Sri Lanka, to a great extent, was the result of “in your face” behaviour by Tamils. A K Anthony, while not directly referring to this, was alluding to this type of a reaction when he made that statement years ago.

    The Punjabi parents making an abortion decision is their personnel decision, they are not impacting others. Personally, I do not endorse it. btw Punjab and Haryana has the lowest female/male ratio; Kerala has the highest, more girl than boys, 1065/1000, that the demographers say is the required ratio for sustainability. However, the fetocide in Haryana/Punjab is creating another positive side effect. Villagers in Haryana are coming to Kerala to marry because not enough girls there and because the girls being educated will get job in Haryana- so better national integration . I would also guess the shortage in future will create a reverse dowry system where the boy will have to give dowry to the girl.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    I have two sons and I should now start saving for their
    dowry. (: (:

    Ravi Reply:

    If ABVP’s main aim was to protest because it offends their religious sentiments, then here are some targets which may yield greater benefits.

    The USA has a breed of cattle called the Brahman Cattle (How much more provocative can you get) which is bred purely for BEEF. When is it that ABVP last created a fuss about this.

    Millions of Cattle direct descendants of Indian Cattle Breeds, are slaughtered in Australia. I know of no protest movements targeting Australian farmers.

    The question then remains why this protest against a Beef Festival in Osmania University.

    Well I guess that it was an un-missable opportunity to take panga with Muslims. Beef Festival is just an excuse.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If beef eating is legal (it is in almost all states, except in some RSS ruled states), then why someone has a problem if a festival is held in the university. Tomorrow, some vegetarians may object if Non-veg food festival. If you do not eat meat, stay away. Period.

    These bigots will tomorrow object to teaching of beef cooking in catering colleges.

    One very well knows from where the source of the protests is – the RSS.

    ———–

    This is one more instance of the BJP and its sister organisations working overtime to lose elections or build its vote bank. Hyderabad’s population has 40% Muslims and 5% Christians. It dreams of coming to power in 2014, forgetting every vote and seat will count, also stitching alliances. It must be living in fool’s paradise to think that by this protest 55% of the Hindu population in the city and elsewhere will just walk into its arms. Some people just do not wish to learn from history.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    manohar-

    it has nothing to do with RSS or BJP. Although based on the press cuttings, the protest was organized by the junior BJP student wing.

    There is no purpose to organize a “beef festivaL” in a college campus other than to create a problem.

    For pete sake, it is not a dance festival, arts festival

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sorry. I do not agree. Now you are classifying things that should be allowed and not allowed, that suits your ’sensibilities’. Eating is as much part of us as breathing. BTW, cookery is also an art.

    If you think it has nothing to with RSS/BJP and only its junior wing and people will say ‘forget it, they are just kids’, well be my guest.

    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    Not sure you understand the nature of the festival.

    The hostel menu at the Osmania University has NO BEEF on it. Many students had requested that BEEF should be included in the available choice.

    In support of their request, a small festival of a few Beef based dishes were cooked and made available for sampling. Some Dalit students and their teachers went to the festival and were attacked by the ABVP hoodlums and one of them ended up in hospital.

  • Anonymous

    Kaam hi kaam…

    Chotta bachcha overloaded with work… NO blog presence possible……

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  • Anonymous

    The mask is off.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Whose mask?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    samajh ne waale samakh gaye hai.n
    naa samjhe naa samjhe woh anaaDi hai

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  • Anonymous

    Ravi/Manohar,

    Just woke from my afternoon siesta and saw that I was being blamed for stopping people
    from eating beef. You both have completely misunderstood what I was trying to say.
    I don’t have any problem with any one what he/she eats. However, even a child in India
    knows which things can create controversy and problems. Eating beef is no problem, but shouting from the roof top that we are having a festival of beef is sure way of inviting trouble.
    There are enough groups/people in India, who just wait for such opportunities. In same way
    if any one wants to provoke certain Muslim groups, they have to just announce a festival
    of pork and then see how the following events unfold. Ravi your comparing this event
    with UK and Germany is off the mark. Religion does not comes into picture there where
    eating habits are concerned. Indians in this particular case are not yet ‘mature’ enough .

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    Ravi Reply:

    Fair enough.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not blaming you or anyone else here. Please re-read my post again.

    Tomorrow someone will have problem with egg-festival or chicken festival or god alone knows who will have objections to what.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Ideally no one should object to such things – will this ever happen in India-?.
    But you know how ‘ sensitive’ we Indians are ? We get ‘hurt’ by many petty things
    and vested groups take advantage of such situations. We also know that such vested groups are present both in Hindu and Muslim communities. Why give them a chance?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It is the loony elements (among all sections of the society and they are in very small minority), who are ’sensitive’, who get ‘hurt’ and no one knows what will hurt their ’sentiments’.

    Intolerance and bigotry. Haven’t we have seen enough of it?

    Ravi Reply:

    This is a clear case of politically exploiting a festival. Simple.

    Anonymous Reply:

    by whom?

    Ravi Reply:

    Since neither eating Beef nor organising festivals is against the law, then for sure it is ABVP who is trying to make political capital out of this incident.

    The beef festival was organised by Telangana Students Association, Progressive Democratic Student Union, Student Federation of India and student groups from English and Foreign Languages University.

    The organisers claimed that beef is the part of their cultural identity and an affordable source of nutrition. They said the festival was to oppose ‘food fascism’ in university hostels.

    Supporting the demand, P.L. Visweswara Rao, former professor of communication and journalism at the university, said students have a right to seek a particular food. He alleged that the police and the university administration failed to protect the students participating in the festival.

    The ABVP, which opposed the beef festival, called for university shutdown on Monday.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Is drawing allah illegal?

    Ravi Reply:

    No it is not…go ahead and draw him. BTW I am sure you were meant to say Mohammad…but the rush of blood and all that waiting for BVS to reply…

    Anonymous Reply:

    everything that hurts mullahs and converts are the same to me !!

    Ravi Reply:

    So you are anti mullahs and you think I am a convert.

    Thanks and bye

    Anonymous Reply:

    yes, IT IS. Whether Allah or Mohammed or Aiysha it is all same. If the fatwa says no drawing then you cannot draw.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Now that is obfuscation.

    I only hope you stick to the debate in question. If uncomfortable, you need not participate.

    We are discussing a particular incident, not cartoons and drawings.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If this professor Vishveshwar had organised a pork festival, I am sure his hands would have been chopped off and eaten with the beef!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    what a stupid response you got from this congressi troll!
    The matter pertained to declaring beef festival and countering it with pork festival. Here he mentions egg, mutton, fish etc, pointedly avoiding the mention of PORK!

    How sensitive one can be!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Mohan and Manohar,
    Excellent article on Amazon’s E-book strategy.
    Read on at :
    http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2012/04/understanding-amazons-strategy.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Interesting. Will comment on it later. Currently, there is a Battle of Beef going on here.

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  • Anonymous

    Jaylalitha comments that he UPA Govt is trying to transform states into giant municipal corporations – she made this comment opposing the proposed NCT program by the centre.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    Giant Municipal Corp. Interesting name.

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  • Anonymous

    Trinamool’s latest party rule: Don’t marry CPM members, don’t even talk to them.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Trinamools-latest-party-rule-Dont-marry-CPM-members-dont-even-talk-to-them/articleshow/12691184.cms

    Shan,

    If you have girl friend who favours CPM then you will have to leave her.
    Latest diktat from Mamta Di.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    This is not the first time a party decides whom not to marry.

    You know kerala had active communist politics right before independence; and they formed the first post-state reorg ministry in kerala, Two leaders of the party, both ministers, both ex lawyers, TV Thomas and KR Gowri married (in those times called “love marriage”) with the blessings of the party. It was a major news item those days, because TV Thomas was from a prominent Christian family, and Gowri from a prominent Hindu (ezhava) family. I believe they got married in 1961 or 1962.

    The Communist Party of India split in 1964 into CPI and CPI (M), the first one leaning to Soviet union, and the second one leaning to China/Mao.

    Kerala had lots of communist leaders; the majority of them moved to CPI (M).
    KR Gowri moved to CPI (M) and TV Thomas stayed with CPI.

    The CPI (M) have an ultimatum to Gowri that she should divorce Thomas (who belonged to CPI) if she wanted to remain with CPI (M).

    The “cause” was more important for Gowri; she divorced Thomas.

    Thomas died of heart attack after few years.

    Gowri was quite active in the party, she was a capable , admired minister in all the Marxist ministries except the last one (because she left Marxist party in disgust a while before).

    She is still active in politics, with her own party, now as a part of the Congress coalition.

    Several movies were made in Malayalam about Gowri Thomas and TV thomas party and married lives.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    This is one of the main reason I love this blog. I come to know about many things which would be impossible for me know. Very interesting.
    This lady Ms. Gowri must be a very dedicated person to divorce her
    husband for the party.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    We have to apply Gopi’s famed one liner.

    Mamta is working overtime to lose the next elections.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    we Kannadigas often quote a proverb, which, loosely translated, quotes a mother-in-law wishing, “I don’t mind my son dying, if it makes my d-in-law a widow”.

    Mamta is wishing that “I may sink, but I will make he congress party sink hook, line and sinker”.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Very good one.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Yes we should. This lady seems to be going crazy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    Shaan Nirad Chaudhary is one hell of a lucky guy, because Mamta cannot touch him-because he has no girl friends and all his boy friends are congressies.

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  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    Missed lot of fun in last dozens of hours. It seems that WHERE IS THE BEEF, I mean Mahesh, Manohar and Ravi’s Beef, has altogether different connotation. Manohar, Mahesh and Lovy, oops, I mean Ravi, there is a say saying, Aankho main ghuse chale aarahe ho, wo bhi joote pahan kar.??
    Will try to attend as much as possible, but gone are the good days, where I could have joned the fun any time.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Food Fascism my mate, that is where my beef is.
    Being dibetic I discard the BUN.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    what you call food Fascism, your comrade-in-arms, engrich may say it is
    Nazist, Zionst, Brhmnst conspiracy.

    To me it looks like an ISI-SIMI-IM fundamentalists’ joint operation code-named “INFEST BEEF-FEST”.

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    Ravi Reply:

    and your new disciple wants to paint Mohamad using Pigs blood. No doubt you will encourage him.

    OBTW he says he was pricked, was it you?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    You have said it in a very nice way.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    From the dictionary.

    Beef – to start a fight, to get into argument with another person, or group of people
    ———-
    Now who started this ‘beef’ war?

    ———————
    PS: One man’s ‘beef’, another one’s ‘holy cow’.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    In business lingo, we use beef as where is the weighty thing, where is the thing of substance or core thing, rest is garnishing or greens around the piece of steak. OK, should I go here whole tong and hammer? Can not. Boss’s room is just around the corner and he has a nasty habit of giving me surprises by entering my room, unannounced.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    This was the main reason I left my very good paying job
    and joined my business as I was fed up of reporting
    to my boss. Now I report only to my wife.
    I can never get away from this reporting.

  • Anonymous

    Cookery was an art an hour ago… and that’s what we are discussing I suppose?

    Nothing uncomfortable her… always ready to hit back when pricked!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Ishwar

    Food is an issue to pillory RSS, ABVP etc…

    how Pavlovian !!

    While I have full sympathy for all to eat any food… including cockroaches, I think there is something called decency , NOT to hurt religious feelngs or even that of Animal rights. So beef or pork if eaten should not be done in a manner to taunt othets.

    let me ask the all important question., In my opinion eid Slaughter is done in a very cruel manner and Dr mishra had even posted a video of it here. Without trying to hurt the feelings of Muslims for whom I know Eid has special symbolism, dont you think the method of slaughter should change into more humane…

    I am sure this would again end up in Modi, modi… abvp, RSS… by trolls !

    Anyway new blog is on…

    I am NOT there… as the f***** work pressure is makign me sit in office…

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————
    ~~~~~ TIME FOR A GUUUUUUUUUUUD JOKE ~~~~~~~
    ————————————————————————————————————

    Smiling cobra Gen Zia was the orginal reincarnationof the cobra into a human being.

    His son Ejaz hul haq is the re-incarnation of the old snake.

    And right now on TIMES NOW IS claiming …..THAT OSAMA WAS NEVER FOUND IN PAKISTAN !!!

    it is all a propoganda !!!

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  • http://twitter.com/iam_not_here Kushagra Bhatnagar

    Hi Sujata,

    Hope you are in best of your spirits and enjoying good health.

    Once again an excellent piece. Indeed several Indian men lack basic courtesy and decency towards women. What is surprising that while lack of education is cited as the main reason for such mindset, many such men we come across and you mentioned too are well qualified yet their views towards women are so parochial. So really does education alone help in refining men’s mindset towards women?

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  • Al

    And then there was one Pramod Mahajan who had equated Monica L to a prominent lady politician. Was it Sharad Yadav who had talked of “par kati” women during the debate on the Women’s Reservation Bill?

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  • http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/toireporter/author-Mohammad-Azeemullah.cms Mohammad Azeemullah

    Necessity of the Age! Right move whatever the controversy surrounding it! However, technology cannot replace the role of a teacher in the classroom!

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  • Mitra

    The question about expensive toys from an economic perspective is the following – can it be expected to lead to improvements in productivity? Then it is not simply a giveaway and can be justified. I think the laptop scheme fits the bill.

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    Impi Reply:

    They are students, so I am not sure how ‘productive’ they can be with a free Laptop and no job opportunities. But yes, they will gain exposure and maybe more will flow from that exposure. Here’s hoping!

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  • Bharti Krishak

    Waste of money – Should have been given only to those students who scored above 80% marks in at least one subject – and over 66% in aggregate – ie strictly on merit and only to deserving students.

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  • Anonymous

    This is the problem with leftists. They want to create country of beggars.

    Moreover Akhilesh and his cronies will make commission out of this deal.

    India is f***ing joke.

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  • heavy addiction

    heavy addiction…

    Need to mind the minders : Singly Political…

  • Ipsit

    Good one

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  • AshishC

    Anand- Topalov was full of sub-optimal play- from both sides. Anand Gelfand was a mismatch. Of late, Anand rarely produces attractive and attacking games. His tournament record is also plummeting of late.
    His best game of 2013 was against Aronian in the Tata Steel tournament. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1704763

    Alas, this is the Anand we knew and admired. I would not expect him to come back. There are more exciting prospects in world chess now- including Caruana, Aronian etc.

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  • Gurjender singh

    Thanks for your great information, the contents are quiet interesting.I will be waiting for your next post.
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