Meek is not weak



The Congress, if I know anything about the party, always lands on its feet every time it looks as though it is taking itself and the country into chaos and is sure to collapse. It is now not once but twice that the party has managed to get its own man (and woman earlier) into Rashtrapati Bhavan, against all odds. And while in 2007 the exercise was fractious enough with its candidate perhaps not the best person for the job, in 2012 they have outdone themselves: they have killed not just two birds with one stone, but perhaps three.

At the moment, though, I am overwhelmed by a feeling of sympathy for West Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee after I recently heard a very senior Congressman describe her as a frustrated spinster who needed to be firmly put in her place.

Mamata might well find herself between a rock and a very hard place now, considering how she jumped the gun and went hysterical about her choice of President publicly. But while she might have been frustrated by the counter-moves of the Congress over the presidential polls, her place in the UPA is really under no threat, though facing both Pranab Mukherjee and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh again might countenance a lot of humility and dignity which I doubt she possesses in any good measure.

Before that, though, she might have something to think about in how deftly the Congress manipulated her into this embarrassing position and she might also think twice before trusting Samajwadi Party chief Mulalayam Singh again, considering he has done to her what he did unto Congress president Sonia Gandhi in 1999 after her now infamous, “We have 272,’’ statement.

But Mulayam, as ever, was looking after his own interests, then, as he has now and his interests are certainly not the same as Sonia Gandhi’s or even Mamata Banerjee’s.
However, I am more taken aback at how smoothly the Congress has managed to get Pranab Mukherjee out of the Finance Minister’s office. To Mukherjee, it might indeed be an honour to be elevated to the presidential office. But I have reason to believe that he has been a thorn in the flesh of Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh ever since UPA II and has now been neatly plucked out by Congresd president Sonia Gandhi whose economic sense is more pro-poor than pro-rich as compared to Mukherjee or even the Prime Minister.

But, even if he had to go through a day’s embarrassment by being named as the presidential choice by both Mamata and Mulayam, the Prime Minister finally seems to have got his way. I have reason to believe that Mukherjee had only contempt for the PM and would not listen to any of Dr Singh’s sound economic advice. A senior Congressman has told me that party leaders were convinced that Mukherjee was beginning to believe in his own myth of being indispensable to the government and that they were convinced India’s economic crises was more the doing of the he finance ministry than of the PMO.

“Mukherjee had been Dr Manmohan Singh’s boss in 1983 when he was finance minister in Indira Gandhi’s cabinet and could not accept the role reversals three decades later. He just laughed away the PM’ every suggestion and was seen as working more to the interests of certain corporates than for the aam aadmi.’’ So, of course, Mukherjee had to go. True to its character the Congress has let him know that no one is quite indispensable in their party – apart, of course, from the Nehru-Gandhis – but while couching it in terms of an honour and a promotion and a fitting cap to his long and distinguished career.

Then, again, from being on the verge of a mid-term poll early this week, to an undisputed victory and a strengthening of position (with both Maywati and Mulayam voting on the same side in this election), there can be no doubt about its survival instincts — it will never let go before it has to and knows how to squeeze the last drop out of its term whenever it comes to power. Quite unlike the BJP which gave away its 2004 elections with an advancement of polls to May that year – I still believe that if they had avoided a hot summer election and waited until a cooler post-monsoon December, the aam aadmi might not have been as thirsty and hungry as to eat up the BJP leaders for breakfast, lunch and dinner. And L K Advani might have got to realise his dream of becoming Prime Minister.

However, as the Bible says, blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth. And, for all his meekness, Dr Manmohan Singh not only now holds the record, after Jawaharlal Nehru, of being the only Prime Minister to return to office twice without interruption, he wins yet again over those who might ridicule him as the weakest Prime Minister India has ever had, including those from within the party organisation or even hiis own cabinet.

To quote again: it is also said `whoever exalts himself will be humbled and whoever humbles himself: shall be exalted’. The first part at least is true of Mamata Banerjee and the Congress has again managed to salvage its tattered image vis-à-vis the shenanigans of the West Bengal CM who has been holding the UPA government and the country to ransom ever since coming to power in May last year.

I believe she will indeed have to eat some humble pie, one way or the other – if she votes for Pranab Mukherjee, on the grounds that he is a fellow Bengali or even if she does not and Mukherjee, as is now almost certain, wins the presidential polls.

Perhaps a little humility might have gone a longer way – as is evident from Dr Manmohan Singh’s position today: he may be meek but he ha shown that he is certainly not weak. He has got his way again. Now we just have to wait and watch who becomes India’s next finance minister. This, time, though, the UPA government cannot afford to get its fundamentals wrong. It has very little time on its hands. And if it fails to yet deliver it will be the Congress’s turn to be humbled – at the hustings.

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  • Ravi

    His Weakness is His Strength

    There are many here who would readily dub MMS as a weak Prime Minister. Seldom anyone has provided any substantial point in support of this utterly false, glib statement.

    So what are MMS’s personal weaknesses which could characterise him as the weakest PM in India’s history?

    Is it his managerial talent? Hardly. Though many people have tried to dilute his credit for liberalising the Indian economy, his record in that field remains exceptional and consistent, throughout his tenure as a public servant.

    Is it the low key way he manages country’s foreign policy? I very-much doubt it. There have been many provocations for both his knees to jerk, but he has kept them and an array of other hyperactive knees from jerking in unison. Our enemy expected retaliatory violence which would have had a destabilising effect on our economy; he kept his cool and our economy on track.

    So what makes him weak? My guess is that some fire-brands in our nation prefer our leaders to have exaggerated oratory skills. Never mind if they are in-effective or even counterproductive, they are called brave if they issue daily dhamki to the enemy in 3 different languages.

    For me MMS is a man of his times, a whispering giant who has kept together an unruly coalition. He is like a lotus that stands proud of surrounding kichard it finds itself in.

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    observer Reply:

    A giant that confessed coalition politics being the cause of his ills! A giant that turned the other way when peer looters plundered the country ! His erect posture is purely physical, Sirji !. Acting tough when it mattered does not mean a knee jerk reaction. He is exceptional and consistent in his survival instincts.

    Seeing China’s potential growth and India’s opportunities, it is Narasimha Rao who made liberalisation possible. Not your copy book MMS. May be he documented it with floral phrases.

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  • gary singh

    and Gita says.. Vir Bhogya Vasundhra… The Brave shall inherit the earth..

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  • indian

    Well congies may be able to settle their man but the real question is – is it the right choice? We all know how the previous choice brought the country sh-ame at all her foreign visits. Now we also know how the new man a failed foreign minister, a pawn of Gandhi family will be elected. Will there be any dignity and respect left for the post? I guess congress doesn’t look for respect anyway, they want just to rule by hooook or crooook. They are influencing and c0rrupting all institutions one by one.

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  • umeshgarg

    You say: “Dr Manmohan Singh not only now holds the record, after Jawaharlal Nehru, of being the only Prime Minister to return to office twice without interruption,”
    I suppose you do not count Mrs. Gandhi’s victories in the 1967 and 1971 elections.
    The 1971 was a mid-term poll but not a forced one–rather a choice a la the 2004 election called by the Vajapayee government.

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  • s ramji

    i live in a small society – we are in majority – but the other 3 who behave like Mamta, have their way – one of them even threatened to break open locks for a service stopped to them for non payment of charges – certainly the small group was wrong in many ways but just because we were decent people they could have their way -but we ultimately prevailed- I cant just imagine how MNS manages with the type of daily problems he faces -
    All CAG reports are leaked – dont know who is behind all these – astronomical figures are given and the entire nation gets swayed – With virtually no control on persons nominated by allies – MNS hands are tied
    But only area where i will not pardon MNS is; after it was known Raja advanced date for submission of bids/tenders for SPECTRUM; he should have been dismissed – in other matters things might not have been known to people but the way the cut off date and time was advanced was visible to all -

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  • SJUPRA

    The joke of the century ! SONIA JEE IS PRO POOR.

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  • http://twitter.com/DesiCdn1 Desi Canadian

    you are not alone, there are 1000s of people who feel this way.

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    Kushal Reply:

    That’s the spirit, Desi Canadian!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/kanikadhupar Kanika Dhupar

    Oh come on Bunny, you’ll get over it.
    Cheers *hug*

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    Kushal Reply:

    I TOLD you I don’t want to be cheered up, Kanika. When I wallow, I go all the way.

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  • Abhiroop

    “hiii…happy new year…so, what are your new year resolutions?”
    “How did you celebrate 31st?”
    “Getting married this year? no? aww”
    “Ok so how is auntie?”

    Eyes bloodshot shoots down aisle knocking down plastic christmas tree nearly tripping over heart shaped balloons crashes out through 15th floor window freeee

    sigh.

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    Kushal Reply:

    Welcome to another year, Abhiroop.

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  • Har Gobind Bhukkal

    2 Cutting Chai banaa … 1 madam ke liye aur 1 ra.owl gandagi ke liye. Teraa baaap modi tere se saare hisaab legaa

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    Dirty Hindi Reply:

    Vaddddaaaaaa……chayaaaaaaaa………stinkinggggg hiiiiiundiiiiii….vomitttttt

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    Har Gobind Bhukkal Reply:

    gutter snipes feed on vomitttt….dirty piiig

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    Hindi Reply:

    Dirrrrtttttyyyyyyyyy…mouthhhhhhhh….shi!!ingggggg from mo@th……eaaaaatttt thatttttt voommmmiiittt?…hiuuuuuunnndiiii sssuuuuukkk$$$$$

    HinduSamurai Reply:

    sahi kaha Har Gobind ji!! It@li@n m@d@m aur unke chamchon ko
    India se turant bhaga dena chahiye!…Gaddar hain sabkesab h a r @@ m z@ @ d e!!

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  • Basit Lone

    circumstantial evidence is not enough to hang anyone

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    vinu Reply:

    who said there should be “evidence” to hang a Terrorist?

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    STORM Reply:

    You are a terrorist!! So lets hang you now !!

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    Basit LOne Reply:

    thats your democracy…..i am human unlike you

    Basit Lone Reply:

    then who can decide was he a terrorist or not..if he was was hang him ..if he wasnt y didnt they provide him lawyer …poor democracy

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    Ashamed Indian Reply:

    In this country, Muslims are terrorists, Hindus are saints. Have faith on Allah buddy. Justice will prevail.

    VijayDinanathChauhan Reply:

    and Hindus of Pakistan are being pampered by pakistani
    politicians for votes, Hindus of pakistan get subsidies for trips to Kumbh mela and Kailash parvat. Hindus of Pakistan rule the Pakistani film industry with most superstars being Hindus like Chpras, Kapoors etc. Hindus also regularly get selected in Pakistani cricket team, and once a hindu even became the captain of Pakistan cricket team. Hindus have wiped out Muslim minority of POK, and trying to separate POK from Pakistan. Hindus are carrying out suicide attacks against shias, ahmedias, in buses, market places, mosques etc across Pakistan. Hindus have wiped out Muslims from India after Partition, everyday Muslim refugees are trying to cross the border and seek asylum in Pakistan and Bangladesh, while the population of Hindus has been increasing in Pakistan since independence with a growth rate much higher than that of Pakistani muslims. Hindus have also conducted
    serial blasts periodically in trains and big financial centers of Pakistan like Karachi etc, and a Hindu don responsible for those blasts is being protected by the Indian RAW in a bunglow in Mumbai’s RIffton road. Hindus destroyed lakhs of mosques in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, including the most important Badshaahi Lahore mosque, Masjid-al-haram at Kaaba and others , and built temples on those sites. Most terrorists in this world creating mayhem from Chechnya, Bosnia to Indonesia are all Hindus, even the WTC (9/11) attackers, and the mumbai attackers were Hindus(photos showe them wearing Hindu saffron bands on wrists)So sad, Hindus are really very bad. Muslims are saints…and Islam spread from Mororcco to Pakistan to Indonesia by Non-violence, which popatMohM@D learned from the JAINS of India.

    ashamed muslim Reply:

    lol…this a joke of this century.

    sword of peace Reply:

    f@ukin india worshipes even di@cks some F@ukin nypm@ho

    ashamed muslim Reply:

    justice is finally prevailed…the terrorist has been hanged and I appeal to indian judiciary that speed-up this …all terrorist will quit!

    Sword Of peace Reply:

    RSS are Saints, Naxals are tribes and time will *** when dese outfits will divide fu@kn india in pieces

    Mathew Reply:

    Thanks to allah, justice has prevailed – Pakistan suffocating in its own vomit and sh#t and muslims being at the lowest of social ladder in this subcontinent !!
    Allah is not happy with the muslims and the way they have managed their religion !! Change buddy – its still not too late !!!!

  • Basit Lone

    circumstantial evidence is not enough to hang anyone

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  • Basit Lone

    circumstantial evidence is not enough to hang anyone

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  • nupur

    glimpses of the old vir sanghvi – excellent writeup

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    Har Gobind Bhukkal Reply:

    CONgress Eulogising that’s what he’s paid for. The most dirty media P!mp

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    Mathew Reply:

    well said – thats his true self !!

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  • http://www.youbihar.com/ Mia Mithu

    very boring article..

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  • Vijay

    Media should restrain themselves from giving unnecessary comments, blogs etc on the Afzal Guru.Whatever happened that was his fate and it was his fate ,which made him to do drastic attempt to attack Parliament.Let us close this topic and look forrward to strengthen the implementation of strict policy.

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  • Mesihah

    Hindus ate pig heads to be ruled and conquerd as they were by muslims for one thousand years this will happen again and very soon than people imagine

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    Har Gobind Bhukkal Reply:

    pig heads were your forefathers.

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    Guru Reply:

    U lost ur argument ….we got one for the dinner,,,,,Italians eat all of it…c0w and p0rk…….

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    Har Gobind Bhukkal Reply:

    gutter snipes can do no better. enjoy it with yellow pasta

    Guru Reply:

    Do u eat with ur chapaaaaathhhhiii…..nice P0rrrrkkkyyyy and c0wwww?……?

    Har Gobind Bhukkal Reply:

    pig heads were your forefathers.

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  • ab

    Why should Guru be the only one hanged for high treason. What about almost the entire government machinery which fails to function on purpose. Are the government servants who demand bribes for even small things like birth and death certificates not committing high treason? Should we hang them too?

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  • atulsrivastavasonu

    A CRIMNAL MAY HAVE RIGHTS BUT A TERRORISTS HAS NO RIGHTS HUMAN OR WHATEVER. NOW SYMPATHASIZER OF GURU WILL JUST BE SHUT UP.

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  • abdul

    i don’t believe afzal guru was a willing conspirator of the tragedy,he walked in to a well thought out and executed trap laid by militants,part of the blame lies on security system too for torturing a person who had surrendered,married and wanted to lead a normal life by believing on heresay.The execution was a plitical rarther than pragmatic.

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    kaboom Reply:

    ohh yes says Mr Vijay probably expert in politics and law.

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    abdul Reply:

    read arundhati roy’s article

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    sk Reply:

    arundhati roy is a traitor… we dont need her advice in our country.. she can go to pakistan….

    missingamig0 Reply:

    Was she the investigating officer for this case?

    Moonnoo Reply:

    I would rather see her naked pics

  • DEEPAK VOHRA

    hang this terrorist mother fuc@er sangvi. he is also insulting the courts, govt of india

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    Bablu Reply:

    WHy? Why not hang you????

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    Mathew Reply:

    u some relative of Kasab or Afzal ???

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  • http://www.facebook.com/deepakj Deepak Jain

    For a change I agree with most points posed by Vir Sanghvi

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  • hurtL

    Whenever Vir writes an article against Congress, he only makes too apparent his weakness of arguments and how unconvincing he can sometimes get… sounds fishy, eh?!

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  • Ashish Shah

    You people are sick….how can you defend him. He got what he deserved. His family are equally guilty, I cannot believe that they did not know of his activities. Anyways who cares he was scum and got what he deserved…

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  • satyavachan

    The sooner we give up this habit of blaming ourselves for everything perceptible or imperceptible, the better it will be for our nation’s health. One cannot be hundred percent accurate in every matter particularly while dealing with terrorists. We should commend authorities in this matter at the least.

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  • bharat

    p!ss 0ff you paid stooge. You are a dirty old b@st@rd. Your truth was revelaed in the paid news Radiaa files scandal.

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  • JR

    No doubt it could have been handled better. But let’s not forget that terrorist who attacked parliament and did not call early to inform. The members of killed policemen/women were also informed in advance of the fate awaited.

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  • Shazzam

    yaar ye food review se wapas aa gaya in sab kaamo mein?
    fir se kingmaker banney ka mood hai kya ?

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  • Rahul Koul

    If Singhvi is convinced about the fairness of justice given to Afzal, pray Singhvis family and kin also get the same kind of justice the Afzal got from India

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  • Shamir

    The ruthless occupation of Kashmir will come to an end at the right time, God only knows when that time would come but it would come as history is witness to the fact that despotic regimes never last forever and the wishes of the masses is the winner in the end . The only thing that the hapless Kashmiris can do is to pray to God that they are liberated from this despotic indian rule sooner rather than later .

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    HinduSamurai Reply:

    abe o K2E!!!! PISSLAM is a FOREIGN religion….it is not native to the valley of Kashmir!! KASHMIR name comes from Rishi Kashyap….get that inside ur M@cc@-pedophilePopatMohM@D virus infected BRAIN…ur forefathers were all Kashmiri Hindus, …and U wiped them out from the valley in 1989!!! WHY????? becoz they refused to say “LA PILLAHA PILLALLAH, MohM@D UR RASOOL PILLAH!!!!”???? so they became K@@firs and Ur @Rabian masters became KASHMIRIS!!???? GO TO HELL!!!

    KASHMIR IS INDIA’s part FROM THE TIME OF THE MAHABHARAT!!!

    and it will stay that way….if u don like it, U CAN GO TO

    PAAPISTAN….created by ur (JINN)AH UNCLE in 1947 by wiping out millions of Hindus/SIkhs from East Bengal, Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan, & Khyber Pakhtunwa! Go there and do not come back!!! Untill u provide justice to the 600,000 Kasmiri pundits languishing as refugees in their own country in the camps of Jammu and Delhi, u and ur kind are not gonna get NO JUSTICE TILL QAYAMAT!!! (Day of Judgement)..birdbrain K2E!!!!

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  • Chauhan

    This is the last nail in the coffin of congress Govt

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  • HinduSamurai

    here we go again!! I would like to humbly beg to differ from ur views on this subject. and Difference of Opinion is what makes India so colorful! :)

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    Mohammad Azeemullah Reply:

    Differences of opinion add vitality to the topic being discussed and bring new ways to look at the problems afresh!

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    HinduSamurai Reply:

    to that, I agree! :)

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    Mohammad Azeemullah Reply:

    Sir, this happens only in a vibrant democracy like India. How freely we express! Disagreement is the feature of intellectual engagement!

    Ashraf Reply:

    Did Indian investigators shared these “facts” with u or did “ISI” channelize them into ur mind?

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    Mohammad Azeemullah Reply:

    I have never been as confused about any piece of writing in my life as that of the current article written by world renowned fiction writer ARUNDHATI ROY. While India celebrated the hanging of Afzal Guru, she vehemently denounces it . A common reader is under heavy loss of confidence as to what to read and how to accept the TRUTH. May you shade light upon it!
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/10/hanging-afzal-guru-india-democracy

    Mohammad Azeemullah Reply:

    Mr…do not ask me. Ask Arundhati Roy. As a Muslim if I write an article like this, I know what I may be called…as you have judged me an ‘ISI Agent’ or ‘Fundamentalist’ or a ‘Terrorist’ etc. I know my limitations. Shah Rukh Khan knows his limitation. What about Roy? Can you call her a traitor? No. She is admired by India for what she writes and expresses!

    Mohammad Azeemullah Reply:

    I have never been as confused about any piece of writing in my life as that of the current article written by world renowned fiction writer
    ARUNDHATI ROY. While India celebrated the hanging of Afzal Guru, she vehemently denounces it . A common reader is under heavy loss of confidence as to what to read and how to accept the TRUTH. May you shade light upon it!
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/comm...

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  • Vish…

    Guru’s wife and son are also terrorists, just visit his village, you’d know the kind of anti-national activities they indulge in. They should also be hanged, and everyone else who supports them.

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  • gowhar fazili

    Lame. I wonder how smug Vir Sanghvi would sound if he ended up with a token sarkari lawyer while on death row with hostile nationalist media impatient for an early execution.

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  • Jesse

    Excellent balanced write up. Cannot agree more with you Vir. India has lost basic humanity, and it is only people like you in media who can restore that vision.

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  • KumarV

    Afzal Guru is victim of islamic jihad that is making its believers brain dead and makes them become impulsive rock throwers for the most flimsy reasons. Why do only Kashmiris have grouse of injustice and not the other States of india? It is because other states are secular and Kashmir is intolerably communal. They conspired to ethnically cleanse 500,000 Kashmiri Pandits in 1990. The call for ethnic cleansing was given from local Mosque loud speakers by clerics. The clerics wanted a Kashmir with only hindu women and no Hindu men!! This is the level of low depths the practiced religion is in Muslim Majority Kashmir where Shariat is gnawing at the Society. Secularism is dead in Kashmir.

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    HinduSamurai Reply:

    ur the real Vijay!!!, the Vijay who posted below is a K2@ braindead m0r0n ashamed to reveal his true confused (mirror says he has hindu bl00d in his arteris, but his braindead brain says he is descendant of the purest of Arabian bedouins) identity.

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  • Anonymous

    The Indian Judicial system is plagued with delays. The political parties play to gain political advantage and the bureaucracy including police gain brownie points by using delay as a bureaucratic weapon. Traitors and Secessionists must be speedily executed so that not only is justice done but also appears to be done. The government and its clerks must stop playing games with national security matters.

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  • Debu

    Vir Sanghvi is a learned man. Let him tell us how in all the countries that he admires would men conspiring to attack the Parliament and its members would be treated? How the sentences against them would be carried out? And how those on death row be treated? Instead of talking endlessly on what GOI should have done, he could have educated us all by giving details of how such instances would be dealt with in other countries, starting with USA and UK, the countries from which he draws his inspiration.

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  • Ramu

    Sanghvi, do you remember Radia? I think you are now on the payroll of ISI. You do not have an iota of credibility. You would sell your soul to the highest bidder. You were on beck and call of Nira Radia and now you are working for ISI.

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  • http://twitter.com/ShivaForJustice Lord Shiva

    India’s dark side is exposed throughout the world like wild fire after the Delhi gang rape case, the failure of the regime to take a strong action to prevent gang rapes, abuse against women and the ordinary Indians had to protest against the regime.

    Guru and his famiy has been denied human rights and basic fundamental rights. No excuse to the regime! Secret execution and secret burial take place in rogue nations.

    Indian UPA regime having voted against the international independent human rights abuses investigation in Sri Lanka at the UNHRC, Geneva in 2010 has exposed to the world that India is no longer Gandhian, support the denial of human rights and justice. WikiLeaks has exposed further on the Indian regime and the mafias!

    India must allow international monitors and investigators into Kashmir to conduct independent assessment of the ground situation and investigation of human rights abuses. India must end its occupation of Kashmir against the will of the people as it has no moral and ethical right to remain in Kashmir and terrorize the native Kashmiris!

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  • Brown American

    Guru is now revered as a National Hero in Kashmir. The question is why did Hindu India hang Kasab and Guru. In my view it is placate Hindu Extremists and Nationalists in India. It has nothing to do with Justice. If the question was justice, why no Hindu has been tried for killing 20,000 Sikhs in 1984? Where is the justice for 20,000 Sikh Families?

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    IndianMuslimsAreBrown Reply:

    What about the millions of hindus butchered by Puslim
    kings since last 1200 years.??? (since the arrival of Mohd Bin Qasim in Sindh)

    WHat about the millions of hindus & Sikhs (MORE HINDUS/SIKHS
    WERE DONE TO DEATH IN WEST PUNJAB ALONE) THAN ALL THE JEWS KILLED BY NAZIS) butchered and wiped out from Sindh,
    Balochistan, West Punjab, East Bengal, North-West Frontier Province(khyber),
    North Kerala(Moplah rebellion), Kashmir valley, and
    still Hindus are forced to
    migrate to India from Pakistan and Bangladesh every day. Are Puslims being
    forced to migrate into Pakistan and Bangladesh by Hindus everyday???

    Bangladeshi Puslim are illegally infiltrating into India
    and settling down here, they have turned Dhubri district of Assam into a mini
    Pakistan, by becoming majority there through rampant infiltration from
    Bangladesh. Now they are causing trouble in Bodoland.
    and
    PUSLIMS/NDTV/TEESTA/ARUNDHATI/DIGVIJAY/LEFT
    FRONT/SP?BSP/JD(U), JD(S), INDIAN UNION MUSLIM LEAGUE/SYED ALI SHAH
    GEELANI/YASEEN MALIK ETC??????????????????

    Why do Puslims start riots all the time??? who burned the train
    in Godhra???? Who started the Riots in Mumbai?? Who started the Riots in
    Kolkata (called Direct Action Day by Jinnah-1st riots of Partition) killing
    5000 unprepared Hindus in 3 days of one-sided killing??? Who rioted in downtown
    Mumbai, destroying media vans, shops, molesting police women, desecrating Amar
    Jawan Jyoti, all because of what happened in Burma?????? Who rioted in downtown
    Lucknow a day later, destroying Buddha statues in Parks, burning shops and
    police vehicles in front of the Vidhan Sabha of UP, stripping some innocent
    Hindu Women on roads in broad daylight.????

    Who has refused to let Hindus build a temple, not in Mecca, but
    in Ayodhya, where Mughal Puslim Invader Babur built a mosque by destroying one of the most holy temples of Hinduism,???? same was done in Kashi, mathura, and Somnath by Puslim invaders;
    Lakhs of temples have been destroyed, buddhist monasteries were burned to the
    ground, remember Takshila, nalanda???

    Millions of Hindus/Sikhs/Buddhists were forcibly converted by
    pressure from Sword and Jaziya during last 1200 years (confirmed by historians
    like William Hunt, who said Islamic invasion and rule of India was THE(No1)
    BIGGEST and LONGEST GENOCIDE IN HUMAN HISTORY) turning 1/3 of undivided India
    into Puslim majority areas(Now pakistan, and Bangladesh);

    One of the biggest genocides in world history (as reported by
    then US ambassador to East Pakistan) was carried out when
    2.4 MILLION HINDUS were killed by Pakistani army, Bihari puslim Razakars, and
    Bengali puslim fanatics during Operation searchlight of Pakistan army inside
    East Bengal in 1971.(70% of refugees who fled to India because of that were
    Hindus), 2 MILLION HINDUS DRIVEN OUT TO INDIA (1971).
    .and
    PUSLIMS/NDTV/TEESTA/ARUNDHATI/DIGVIJAY/LEFT
    FRONT/SP?BSP/JD(U), JD(S), INDIAN UNION MUSLIM LEAGUE/SYED ALI SHAH GEELANI/YASEEN
    MALIK ETC are talking about justice and secularism here?????????

    10,000 HINDU WOMEN **R**@**P**E**D**, 30.000 HINDUS WERE
    BUTCHERED, !50,000 HINDUS WERE CONVERTED AT DAGGER POINT IN A WEEK, IN NOAKHALI/TIPPERAH, EAST BENGAL IN 1946.
    5000 HINDUS BUTCHERED IN DHAKA, EAST BENGAL IN 2 DAYS, 1950.
    50,000 HINDUS BUTCHERED IN BARISAL, 5000 HINDUS KILLED IN A WEEK, MYMENSINGH,
    2000 HINDUS KILLED IN JESSORE, 1 MILLION HINDUS DRIVEN OUT TO INDIA, ALL VENUES
    IN EAST BENGAL, 1950.
    SAME STORY REPEATED IN EAST BENGAL-1960, 1965 and 1971(mentioned earlier).
    and
    PUSLIMS/NDTV/TEESTA/ARUNDHATI/DIGVIJAY/LEFT
    FRONT/SP?BSP/JD(U), JD(S), INDIAN UNION MUSLIM LEAGUE/SYED ALI SHAH
    GEELANI/YASEEN MALIK ETC are talking about justice and secularism here?????????

    70,000 MALAYALI HINDUS KILLED, 150,000 MADE HOMELESS, 50,000
    CONVERTED AT DAGGER POINT, IN NORTHERN KERALA DURING MOPLAH REBELLION(of Khilaafat movement), in 1920s.

    5000 to 6,000 KASHMIRI PUNDITS KILLED IN A FEW WEEKS, 600,000
    KASHMIRI PUNDITS DRIVEN OUT OF KASHMIR VALLEY AND LIVING AS REFUGEES IN CAMPS
    OF DELHI AND JAMMU SINCE 1989.
    and
    PUSLIMS/NDTV/TEESTA/ARUNDHATI/DIGVIJAY/LEFT
    FRONT/SP?BSP/JD(U), JD(S), INDIAN UNION MUSLIM LEAGUE/SYED ALI SHAH
    GEELANI/YASEEN MALIK ETC are talking about justice and secularism here?????????

    ARABIAN HOLY BOOKS condemns US(NON-MUSLIMS) to HELL after death
    just because we don’t believe in

    Pizlam, and the SAME HOLY BOOKS say PUSLIMS will go to heaven if they KILL US,
    ..(ANYBODY WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE ME CAN LOOK UP “VIOLENT VERSES OF
    QURAN/HADITHS ON GOOGLE, and DON”T BELIEVE THE “CONTEXT”
    argument of MUSLIMS, It is nothing but LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH)
    and young
    Puslim kids are being brainwashed in Madrassas with those fascist verses of ARABIAN
    HOLY BOOK every day in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh.(and all over the world),
    right under our NOSES, funded by SAUDI MONEY, and OUR MONEY(TAXPAYER’s
    MONEY-given to them by SICKULAR PARTY GOVTS ALL OVER INDIA)…EXAMPLE:
    DAR-UL-ULOOM, DEOBAND, UP-BIGGEST MADRASSA IN THE WORLD(ALONG with AL-AZHAR, CAIRO, EGYPT) IS THE ALMA MATER OF MULLAH OMAR(CEO OF TALIBAN).

    ***P* *H* *U* *C* *K* *B* **@**R**U DD IN OWAISI ON A PUBLIC
    STAGE INSIDE HINDUSTAN SAID, “REMOVE POLICE AND 25 CRORE PUSLIMS WILL WIPE OUT 100 CRORE HINDUS in 15 MINUTES”.
    (HE forgot about Gujarat while barking like a **R* *@* *B* *I* *D* * ***D* **0** *G***
    that day)
    and
    PUSLIMS/NDTV/TEESTA/ARUNDHATI/DIGVIJAY/LEFT FRONT/SP?BSP/JD(U), JD(S),
    INDIAN UNION MUSLIM LEAGUE/SYED ALI SHAH GEELANI/YASEEN MALIK ETC are talking
    about justice and secularism here?????????

    All PUSLIMS are suffering the tortures of class, and caste divisions, even after converting into Pislam…castes like SHeikh, Saiyyad, Mughal, Pathan, Ashraf, are oppressing poor Puslims of Aljaf (Lower), Arzal(lowest)…etc , including segregation of graveyards and Mosques, and
    Still PISLAMISTS claim that Hinduism is the only religion which allows CASTE OPPRESSION!!!!??????

    THESE SICKULARS & PUSLIMS(MAJORITY) should grow some b@lls
    and reform THEIR POISONOUS BOOKS and mend THEIR ways, AND STOP TAQQIYA
    (LYING/ACTING/DECEPTION/DENIAL To HIDE REAL INSTRUCTIONS AND REAL INTENTION OF PUSLIMS)
    Stop teaching INNOCENT PUSLIM KIDS that hindus are devil
    worshippers, and realise that THEY are the descendants of a forcibly converted Hindus, becoz every cell of their body has Hindu DNA, not Arabic bedouin DNA. and stop dreaming about Ghazwa-e-Hind (CONQUEST OF INDIA) & DAR_US_SALAAM(CONQUEST OF WORLD-ordered by their Prophet, written
    in their holy books).
    WE ARE NOT PARSEES OF IRAN, WE ARE NOT THE BUDDHISTS OF INDIA
    AND AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN AND BANGLADESH…
    WE ARE SANAATAN DHARMIS, PROUD AND BRAVE HINDUS, NOT AFRAID TO
    DIE IN ORDER TO SEND ALL OF U TO NARAK>>>!!!

    THE BLOOD OF THE RAJPUTS, WHO DIED TO THE LAST MAN IN UR
    INVASIONS, THE BLOOD OF THE LION RACE-SIKHS(SWORD OF HINDUS) WHO WERE/ARE UR
    WORST NIGHTMARE AND WHO THRASHED YOU AND CAPTURED KABUL LED BY MAHARAJA RANJIT
    SINGH-THE LION HEART, WHOSE GURUS SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES & SONS(Guru Gobind SInghji) to Protect Non-muslims from forced CONVERSION,
    THE BLOOD OF THE BRAVE MARATHAS, WHO UNDER LIONS LIKE
    SHIVAJI MAHARAJ AND OTHERS BROKE YOUR MUGHAL EMPIRE DOWN, THE BLOOD OF THE GURKHA, JAAT, KUMAON, GARHWAL, NAGAS, WHO ARE FAMOUS FOR CHOPPING UR HEADS AND
    PLAYING FOOTBALL WITH IT DURING ALL THE WARS WITH UR FAVORITE COUNTRY PAAPISTAN
    AND ALL THE HINDUS SURVIVING IN INDIA RIGHT NOW IS BRAVE BLOOD.

    THE FASCIST ARABIAN CULT WIPED OUT MANY CULTURES. CIVILIZATIONS, NATIONS FROM IRAN TO MOROCCO, FROM NIGERIA TO MALAYSIA, INDONESIA, BRUNEI, ALL IN A FEW CENTURIES, yet!!!!
    yet!!! YET!!!!! HERE WE ARE,
    PROUD CITIZENS OF SANAATAN DHARMA (HINDUS), & KHALSA,
    STILL STANDING STRONG,
    STILL RETAINING HOLD OVER 2/3 OF SOUTH ASIA, ..
    …..KUCHH BAAT HAI TO HAI HAM ME, KI HASTI MIT TI NAHI HAMARI, SADIYON RAHA DUSHMAN DAURE-ISLAM HAMARA!!!(slightly modified poem of Allama **p** *i* **g* **B***@***L!!!)…

    THE BLOOD OF COWARD HINDUS WHO SURRENDERED TO YOUR FASCIST
    ARABIAN CULT UNDER THREAT OF SWORD/JAZIYA(EXTORTION) OR GREED IS FLOWING IN
    YOUR VEINS. SO THANKS TO YOU WE HAVE GOT RID OF THAT CURSED BL00D.

    Mend Ur Ways O Arabian Cult Members…
    Otherwise prepare for more Gujarats, Ayodhyas, Bhagalpurs, all across India. we
    will not let another
    PARTITION/ISLAMIC RULE to happen. even if it means ALL SOUTH ASIANS HAVE TO DIE
    IN A **N**U**C**L**E**A**R**** HOLOCAUST!!
    IF WE GO DOWN, WE WILL TAKE YOU DOWN WITH US!!

    YADA YADA HI DHARMASYA, GLAANIRBHAVATI BHARATAH,
    ABHYUTTHAANAMADHARMASYA TADAATMAANAM SRIJAAMYAHAM!
    PARITRAANAAYA SAADHUNAAM VINAASHAAYACHA DUSHKRITAAAM!!
    DHARMASANSTHAAPANAARTHAAYA SAMBHAVAAMI YUGE
    YUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$******
    First
    provide justice for all the atrocities(listed in this post) ur arabian cult has
    shown to South Asians(including ur forcibly converted coward Hindu forefathers,
    coz u r not arabian, thats for sure), before even THINKING about asking for
    justice u PISLAMIC M@cc@ virus infected z**0**mbies!! and ur sympathizers, pseudosickulars like Mr. Vir Sanghvi (of radia tapes fame).*********

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    Roger Reply:

    Yes – You brown-nosed American. You are a mere mischief monger. You have a response to the reply herewith by IndianMuslimsAreBrown?

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    Brown American Reply:

    As long you wear the name plate “Hindu Terrorist” around your neck and publish a picture with that name tag. Anyhow You ******, I have nothing to do with any color and race, any religion and any caste of Indians. Do you understand that? If not, I will make ‘certain” that it gets clear in your mini brain. Now respond to my post by saying that “yes”, I understand that. Am I clear? I am waiting for your new post.

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  • hany

    there are two major flaws in the argument presented. the acquittal of the other accused is put forward as a piece of evidence to show that afzal got a fair trial. this goes against the fact that the trial court sentenced all the three accused to death penalty. the death penalty of the other two accused were set aside by the higher courts on the basis of the records at the trial court. since no lawyer appeared for afzal during his trial, there was not enough material that the court could use to acquit afzal. thus, the lack of a proper trial was what separated afzal from the other accused. and the sentence clearly reflects this. the question is not about having “great lawyers”. it is about having a lawyer to represent you in the court. the other flaw in the argument is in connection with the eminent lawyer who is said to have represented afzal in the high court. various people including afzal’s wife have said that this lawyer instead of arguing for afzal to be acquitted, argued that he should be given lethal injection. therefore, it is not at all proper to say that afzal got a fair trial.

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    AfzalGayaNarakMe Reply:

    What about the millions of hindus butchered by Puslim
    kings since last 1200 years.??? (since the arrival of Mohd Bin Qasim in Sindh)

    WHat about the millions of hindus & Sikhs (MORE HINDUS/SIKHS
    WERE DONE TO DEATH IN WEST PUNJAB ALONE) THAN ALL THE JEWS KILLED BY NAZIS) butchered and wiped out from Sindh,
    Balochistan, West Punjab, East Bengal, North-West Frontier Province(khyber),
    North Kerala(Moplah rebellion), Kashmir valley, and
    still Hindus are forced to
    migrate to India from Pakistan and Bangladesh every day. Are Puslims being
    forced to migrate into Pakistan and Bangladesh by Hindus everyday???

    Bangladeshi Puslim are illegally infiltrating into India
    and settling down here, they have turned Dhubri district of Assam into a mini
    Pakistan, by becoming majority there through rampant infiltration from
    Bangladesh. Now they are causing trouble in Bodoland.
    and
    PUSLIMS/NDTV/TEESTA/ARUNDHATI/DIGVIJAY/LEFT
    FRONT/SP?BSP/JD(U), JD(S), INDIAN UNION MUSLIM LEAGUE/SYED ALI SHAH
    GEELANI/YASEEN MALIK ETC??????????????????

    Why do Puslims start riots all the time??? who burned the train
    in Godhra???? Who started the Riots in Mumbai?? Who started the Riots in
    Kolkata (called Direct Action Day by Jinnah-1st riots of Partition) killing
    5000 unprepared Hindus in 3 days of one-sided killing??? Who rioted in downtown
    Mumbai, destroying media vans, shops, molesting police women, desecrating Amar
    Jawan Jyoti, all because of what happened in Burma?????? Who rioted in downtown
    Lucknow a day later, destroying Buddha statues in Parks, burning shops and
    police vehicles in front of the Vidhan Sabha of UP, stripping some innocent
    Hindu Women on roads in broad daylight.????

    Who has refused to let Hindus build a temple, not in Mecca, but
    in Ayodhya, where Mughal Puslim Invader Babur built a mosque by destroying one of the most holy temples of Hinduism,???? same was done in Kashi, mathura, and Somnath by Puslim invaders;
    Lakhs of temples have been destroyed, buddhist monasteries were burned to the
    ground, remember Takshila, nalanda???

    Millions of Hindus/Sikhs/Buddhists were forcibly converted by
    pressure from Sword and Jaziya during last 1200 years (confirmed by historians
    like William Hunt, who said Islamic invasion and rule of India was THE(No1)
    BIGGEST and LONGEST GENOCIDE IN HUMAN HISTORY) turning 1/3 of undivided India
    into Puslim majority areas(Now pakistan, and Bangladesh);

    One of the biggest genocides in world history (as reported by
    then US ambassador to East Pakistan) was carried out when
    2.4 MILLION HINDUS were killed by Pakistani army, Bihari puslim Razakars, and
    Bengali puslim fanatics during Operation searchlight of Pakistan army inside
    East Bengal in 1971.(70% of refugees who fled to India because of that were
    Hindus), 2 MILLION HINDUS DRIVEN OUT TO INDIA (1971).
    .and
    PUSLIMS/NDTV/TEESTA/ARUNDHATI/DIGVIJAY/LEFT
    FRONT/SP?BSP/JD(U), JD(S), INDIAN UNION MUSLIM LEAGUE/SYED ALI SHAH GEELANI/YASEEN
    MALIK ETC are talking about justice and secularism here?????????

    10,000 HINDU WOMEN **R**@**P**E**D**, 30.000 HINDUS WERE
    BUTCHERED, !50,000 HINDUS WERE CONVERTED AT DAGGER POINT IN A WEEK, IN NOAKHALI/TIPPERAH, EAST BENGAL IN 1946.
    5000 HINDUS BUTCHERED IN DHAKA, EAST BENGAL IN 2 DAYS, 1950.
    50,000 HINDUS BUTCHERED IN BARISAL, 5000 HINDUS KILLED IN A WEEK, MYMENSINGH,
    2000 HINDUS KILLED IN JESSORE, 1 MILLION HINDUS DRIVEN OUT TO INDIA, ALL VENUES
    IN EAST BENGAL, 1950.
    SAME STORY REPEATED IN EAST BENGAL-1960, 1965 and 1971(mentioned earlier).
    and
    PUSLIMS/NDTV/TEESTA/ARUNDHATI/DIGVIJAY/LEFT
    FRONT/SP?BSP/JD(U), JD(S), INDIAN UNION MUSLIM LEAGUE/SYED ALI SHAH
    GEELANI/YASEEN MALIK ETC are talking about justice and secularism here?????????

    70,000 MALAYALI HINDUS KILLED, 150,000 MADE HOMELESS, 50,000
    CONVERTED AT DAGGER POINT, IN NORTHERN KERALA DURING MOPLAH REBELLION(of Khilaafat movement), in 1920s.

    5000 to 6,000 KASHMIRI PUNDITS KILLED IN A FEW WEEKS, 600,000
    KASHMIRI PUNDITS DRIVEN OUT OF KASHMIR VALLEY AND LIVING AS REFUGEES IN CAMPS
    OF DELHI AND JAMMU SINCE 1989.
    and
    PUSLIMS/NDTV/TEESTA/ARUNDHATI/DIGVIJAY/LEFT
    FRONT/SP?BSP/JD(U), JD(S), INDIAN UNION MUSLIM LEAGUE/SYED ALI SHAH
    GEELANI/YASEEN MALIK ETC are talking about justice and secularism here?????????

    ARABIAN HOLY BOOKS condemns US(NON-MUSLIMS) to HELL after death
    just because we don’t believe in

    Pizlam, and the SAME HOLY BOOKS say PUSLIMS will go to heaven if they KILL US,
    ..(ANYBODY WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE ME CAN LOOK UP “VIOLENT VERSES OF
    QURAN/HADITHS ON GOOGLE, and DON”T BELIEVE THE “CONTEXT”
    argument of MUSLIMS, It is nothing but LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH)
    and young
    Puslim kids are being brainwashed in Madrassas with those fascist verses of ARABIAN
    HOLY BOOK every day in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh.(and all over the world),
    right under our NOSES, funded by SAUDI MONEY, and OUR MONEY(TAXPAYER’s
    MONEY-given to them by SICKULAR PARTY GOVTS ALL OVER INDIA)…EXAMPLE:
    DAR-UL-ULOOM, DEOBAND, UP-BIGGEST MADRASSA IN THE WORLD(ALONG with AL-AZHAR, CAIRO, EGYPT) IS THE ALMA MATER OF MULLAH OMAR(CEO OF TALIBAN).

    ***P* *H* *U* *C* *K* *B* **@**R**U DD IN OWAISI ON A PUBLIC
    STAGE INSIDE HINDUSTAN SAID, “REMOVE POLICE AND 25 CRORE PUSLIMS WILL WIPE OUT 100 CRORE HINDUS in 15 MINUTES”.
    (HE forgot about Gujarat while barking like a **R* *@* *B* *I* *D* * ***D* **0** *G***
    that day)
    and
    PUSLIMS/NDTV/TEESTA/ARUNDHATI/DIGVIJAY/LEFT FRONT/SP?BSP/JD(U), JD(S),
    INDIAN UNION MUSLIM LEAGUE/SYED ALI SHAH GEELANI/YASEEN MALIK ETC are talking
    about justice and secularism here?????????

    All PUSLIMS are suffering the tortures of class, and caste divisions, even after converting into Pislam…castes like SHeikh, Saiyyad, Mughal, Pathan, Ashraf, are oppressing poor Puslims of Aljaf (Lower), Arzal(lowest)…etc , including segregation of graveyards and Mosques, and
    Still PISLAMISTS claim that Hinduism is the only religion which allows CASTE OPPRESSION!!!!??????

    THESE SICKULARS & PUSLIMS(MAJORITY) should grow some b@lls
    and reform THEIR POISONOUS BOOKS and mend THEIR ways, AND STOP TAQQIYA
    (LYING/ACTING/DECEPTION/DENIAL To HIDE REAL INSTRUCTIONS AND REAL INTENTION OF PUSLIMS)
    Stop teaching INNOCENT PUSLIM KIDS that hindus are devil
    worshippers, and realise that THEY are the descendants of a forcibly converted Hindus, becoz every cell of their body has Hindu DNA, not Arabic bedouin DNA. and stop dreaming about Ghazwa-e-Hind (CONQUEST OF INDIA) & DAR_US_SALAAM(CONQUEST OF WORLD-ordered by their Prophet, written
    in their holy books).
    WE ARE NOT PARSEES OF IRAN, WE ARE NOT THE BUDDHISTS OF INDIA
    AND AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN AND BANGLADESH…
    WE ARE SANAATAN DHARMIS, PROUD AND BRAVE HINDUS, NOT AFRAID TO
    DIE IN ORDER TO SEND ALL OF U TO NARAK>>>!!!

    THE BLOOD OF THE RAJPUTS, WHO DIED TO THE LAST MAN IN UR
    INVASIONS, THE BLOOD OF THE LION RACE-SIKHS(SWORD OF HINDUS) WHO WERE/ARE UR
    WORST NIGHTMARE AND WHO THRASHED YOU AND CAPTURED KABUL LED BY MAHARAJA RANJIT
    SINGH-THE LION HEART, WHOSE GURUS SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES & SONS(Guru Gobind SInghji) to Protect Non-muslims from forced CONVERSION,
    THE BLOOD OF THE BRAVE MARATHAS, WHO UNDER LIONS LIKE
    SHIVAJI MAHARAJ AND OTHERS BROKE YOUR MUGHAL EMPIRE DOWN, THE BLOOD OF THE GURKHA, JAAT, KUMAON, GARHWAL, NAGAS, WHO ARE FAMOUS FOR CHOPPING UR HEADS AND
    PLAYING FOOTBALL WITH IT DURING ALL THE WARS WITH UR FAVORITE COUNTRY PAAPISTAN
    AND ALL THE HINDUS SURVIVING IN INDIA RIGHT NOW IS BRAVE BLOOD.

    THE FASCIST ARABIAN CULT WIPED OUT MANY CULTURES. CIVILIZATIONS, NATIONS FROM IRAN TO MOROCCO, FROM NIGERIA TO MALAYSIA, INDONESIA, BRUNEI, ALL IN A FEW CENTURIES, yet!!!!
    yet!!! YET!!!!! HERE WE ARE,
    PROUD CITIZENS OF SANAATAN DHARMA (HINDUS), & KHALSA,
    STILL STANDING STRONG,
    STILL RETAINING HOLD OVER 2/3 OF SOUTH ASIA, ..
    …..KUCHH BAAT HAI TO HAI HAM ME, KI HASTI MIT TI NAHI HAMARI, SADIYON RAHA DUSHMAN DAURE-ISLAM HAMARA!!!(slightly modified poem of Allama **p** *i* **g* **B***@***L!!!)…

    THE BLOOD OF COWARD HINDUS WHO SURRENDERED TO YOUR FASCIST
    ARABIAN CULT UNDER THREAT OF SWORD/JAZIYA(EXTORTION) OR GREED IS FLOWING IN
    YOUR VEINS. SO THANKS TO YOU WE HAVE GOT RID OF THAT CURSED BL00D.

    Mend Ur Ways O Arabian Cult Members…
    Otherwise prepare for more Gujarats, Ayodhyas, Bhagalpurs, all across India. we
    will not let another
    PARTITION/ISLAMIC RULE to happen. even if it means ALL SOUTH ASIANS HAVE TO DIE
    IN A **N**U**C**L**E**A**R**** HOLOCAUST!!
    IF WE GO DOWN, WE WILL TAKE YOU DOWN WITH US!!

    YADA YADA HI DHARMASYA, GLAANIRBHAVATI BHARATAH,
    ABHYUTTHAANAMADHARMASYA TADAATMAANAM SRIJAAMYAHAM!
    PARITRAANAAYA SAADHUNAAM VINAASHAAYACHA DUSHKRITAAAM!!
    DHARMASANSTHAAPANAARTHAAYA SAMBHAVAAMI YUGE
    YUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$******
    First
    provide justice for all the atrocities(listed in this post) ur arabian cult has
    shown to South Asians(including ur forcibly converted coward Hindu forefathers,
    coz u r not arabian, thats for sure), before even THINKING about asking for
    justice u PISLAMIC M@cc@ virus infected z**0**mbies!! and ur sympathizers, pseudosickulars like Mr. Vir Sanghvi (of radia tapes fame).*********^^^^

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  • Kashmiri (London)

    I don’t have much time for conspiracy theories. Looks like Mr Sanghvi has forgotten about the Nira Radia tapes!!!! Let’s refresh your memory: In 2010, Sanghvi was connected to the Nira Radia tapes. In the audio tape Sanghvi was heard asking “What kind of story do you want?” It is alleged that he made some points suggested by Radia in his article titled ‘Time for some transparency’ under Sanghvi’s column “Counterpoint”. Sanghvi denied all allegations and uploaded the article onto his website for readers to make their own judgement. On 27 November 2010, Sanghvi released a detailed statement in the Hindustan Times, clarifying his role, and also raising the possibility of the tapes being edited. Due to the heightened interest in him Sanghvi temporarily suspended his weekly article “Counterpoint”. In October 2011, Sanghvi wrote an article for the Outlook Magazine (the same magazine that carried the tapes), ‘Radia Tapes Weren’t Authentic, They Were Manipulated’ reiterating his stance that the tapes had been manipulated or doctored to cause mischief. He uploaded the article onto his website and provided three independent lab reports from the US and the UK which all found clear evidence of tampering. In January 2012, The Union Government told the Supreme Court that the Radia tapes broadcast by media organisations were tampered with and the government agencies were not responsible for its leakage. “”You had the resources to prove that the tapes were tampered with, Afzal had no access to any resources that could have resulted in his exoneration!!!”" If those tapes were tampered with, what makes you think that the CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE in Afzal’s case wasn’t tampered with!!!!! How convenient of you to call those tapes unauthentic and label the TRUTH in case of Afzal as a conspiracy theory!!! Such theories seem like conspiracy theories to you because it wasn’t one of your loved ones who was UNFAIRLY HANGED. Had it been someone you had known, then that would have been the truth rather than any conspiracy theory.
    According to you, “The same courts that sentenced Guru to death acquitted other people charged with the same offence. If the whole legal system was biased against those involved in this case, then why were the others acquitted?”.Lemme answer that for you. The Govt. needed a scapegoat! If Afzal too would have been acquitted, then who would have been sacrified to SATISFY THE COLLECTIVE CONSCIENCE OF INDIAN SOCIETY!???
    According to you, “I can understand the argument for not returning the body for fear that his tomb will become some sort of shrine for separatists and would-be terrorists.” I’m not sure Mr Sanghvi if you have experienced the death of any family member. If you have, then how would you have felt if you weren’t allowed to do whatever it is that you wanted to do with that person’s remains!? Just because the INDIAN Govt. is weak and fears that his tomb will become some sort of shrine, does it mean that you will deny his FAMILY, the right to pray at his tomb!?? Also, when has any shrine stopped the Indian Forces from attacking it…Need I remind you about the Golden Temple massacre and the firing inside lots of MOSQUES/DARGAHS (SHRINES) across Kashmir!!!!
    You say that there will be times when the state has to take a human life. But let there never be a time when India loses sight of the basic values of humanity. Lemme remind you that INDIA HAS NEVER HAD ANY SIGHT OF THE BASIC VALUE OF HUMANITY AS FAR AS KASHMIRIS ARE CONCERNED…

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  • TheJokesOfTheCenturiesOfPislam

    and Hindus of Pakistan are being pampered by pakistani
    politicians for votes, Hindus of pakistan get subsidies for trips to Kumbh mela and Kailash parvat. Hindus of Pakistan rule the Pakistani film industry with most superstars being Hindus like Chpras, Kapoors etc. Hindus also regularly get selected in Pakistani cricket team, and once a hindu even became the captain of Pakistan cricket team. Hindus have wiped out Muslim minority of POK, and trying to separate POK from Pakistan. Hindus are carrying out suicide attacks against shias, ahmedias, in buses, market places, mosques etc across Pakistan. Hindus have wiped out Muslims from India after Partition, everyday Muslim refugees are trying to cross the border and seek asylum in Pakistan and Bangladesh, while the population of Hindus has been increasing in Pakistan since independence with a growth rate much higher than that of Pakistani muslims. Hindus have also conducted
    serial blasts periodically in trains and big financial centers of Pakistan like Karachi etc, and a Hindu don responsible for those blasts is being protected by the Indian RAW in a bunglow in Mumbai’s RIffton road. Hindus destroyed lakhs of mosques in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, including the most important Badshaahi Lahore mosque, Masjid-al-haram at Kaaba and others , and built temples on those sites. Most terrorists in this world creating mayhem from Chechnya, Bosnia to Indonesia are all Hindus, even the WTC (9/11) attackers, and the mumbai attackers were Hindus(photos showed them wearing Hindu saffron bands on wrists)So sad, Hindus are really very bad. Muslims are saints…and Islam spread from Mororcco to Pakistan to Indonesia by Non-violence, which popatMohM@D learned from the JAINS of India.******

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  • Daniel

    There is no moral justification for hanging of Afzal Guru, when scores of other non-Muslims stay on death roll longer than Guru. It is an act of hatred to placate and appease Hindu Extremists in Indian society.

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    DoomsDay Reply:

    Chudte hain dubai, sharjah aur pata nhi kahaan kahaan

    hum arabian masters se roz raat!!

    Fir bhi woh kehte hain hume Hindu aksar jab bhi chhidti hai koi baat!!

    Hai Ragon me hamare Kaayar Hindu ancestors ka khoon

    fir bhi lekar ghoomte hain hinduon ke khilaaf Quran ka Junoon!!!

    Par Jab Jab dekhte hain AAYINE me khud ko har raat,

    Aur Aayina kehta nahi hai jhooth, hum hain Hinduon ki aulaad,

    fir samajh me nahi aati koi baat,

    kyun @llah miyan ne ki aisi NaaInsaafi Hamare Saath,???

    Padh chuke shahada hum, fir bhi khaaten hain @rabian aaqaayon ki Laat!, hum arabian masters se har raat!!

    Rooth Jaati hai Neend, JAL JATI HAI JHAAANT!!!

    Kuchh baat to hai hum me, beizzati dhulti nahi hamari,

    sadiyon ke liye karli dushmani, apne hi Sanaatan Tareekh (history) ke Saath,

    Hindu hai K@@fir, yahi, sikha gaye arabian Aaqaa hume,

    Baaton ke bhoot nahi hain hum,

    hosh kab aayegi ae Secular Hindu tumhe!!??

    Akal hame aati tabhi hai, jab padti hai LAAT!!

    Jab Jham jhama jham, Dum dama dum khae hamare Bums!

    Pyaare Pyaare Hamare Green K2@ Bums, jo samjhe hamesha Laaton ki B@@T!

    Ankhen hamari khulengi tabhi, Quran ka nasha utrega sar se hamare jab kabhi bhi,

    PopatMohMAD(curse be upon him) Virus Khatam hoga tabhi, Jab Hogi M@cc@ par

    Hydrogen Bomb ki Barsaat!!! Aur Jahannum me Jake hogi PopatMohMAD ke saath,

    humare Saudi Arabian AAqaaon ki Mulaqaat!!!

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    HinduSamurai Reply:

    Daniel is actually a K2@ hiding behind a Christian name and
    doing Taqqiya in this forum. Son of God Lord of Humanity
    Jesus Christ (who gave up his life for every human being, never killed anyone in his whole life in the name of religion unlike Popat MohMAD)
    will Present u in front of GOD who will Judge u on judgement day and send u to HELL!!! I am not a christian but I LOVE JESUS nevertheless and I hate Only those Christians-who engage in violence and try to convert other people into Xianity in the name of JESUS CHRIST-the SOn of God.
    But JESUS SHALL SEND ALL U K2@s to HELL FOR BELIEVING IN THE
    FRAUD FACIST CULT OF ARABIA.

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  • Rohit goyal

    Vir sanghvi is at best a wh ore who thinks trending left on every topic is fashionable. Somehow he doesn’t write articles about the feelings of familes of 9 people who sacrificed themselves trying to save the thugs that we call parliamentarians. The writer has already sold his values for a few pieces of coin and should kindly stop spreading his anti national junk. Trust me no one in Pakistan would’ve written an article on the feelings of an Indian if the roles were reversed

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  • Anil

    What you were doing all these years when Guru was still alive?
    Are you now trying to cash in on sympathy factor on behalf of Congress by talking “their” language (being a B Team of Congress)?

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  • Mohammad Yousuf / Kashmir

    For embedded blue-eyed journalist Veeru :
    1, http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/15/india-kashmir-afzal-guru-hanging

    2, http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?225472

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    HinduSamurai Reply:

    apni m a i y y a ke b u rr me daal de jake batti banake
    yeh saare articles.

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  • Guest

    The column feels incomplete without assessing what effect this will have on the situation in Kashmir.

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    ajeeth Reply:

    If Kashmiris are really Indians, why are they not happy of getting rid of a terrorist ? If they are not happy, then there is a serious doubt about their allegiance

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  • ajeeth

    One wonders in this age of lightening speed communication, and when almost all owns a mobile, why did the govt. rely on snail mail. But there is a reason – the fear of imminent fueling of separatist feelings and a large scale protests which could have jeopardized the very execution itself. So Mr. Sangvi, your argument that the protest have anyhow occurred is not grounded. The problem with intellects like those of you (Arundati Roy included) is you expect everything to be played straight for everything. A lie is not a lie if it helps prevail a greater truth. A stab is not a murder, if the chest is that of the demon. Let’s cut the **** for this debate and focus our words on worthier issues

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  • missingamig0

    Dear author, Did you ask Afzal guru or any of the terrorists if they cared about the families of those killed? If the court has given the verdict, it does not matter if the message was sent by speed post or not sent at all.

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  • Mathew

    another soldier in the perverted secular brigade !!! nobody gives a damn sh#t to these persons now !!!

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  • aksk

    well I never see these journalists like Vir Shanghvi, Barkha Dutt and like coming open for people killed by these terrorists …..Do u think terrorists only have human right not common men ……………….

    If u guys are so concerned about human rights –then why u guys never said a word about Kashmiri Pandits

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  • Special One

    Hey what is wrong with you !!!1 bukka chowd@@@, stop @$$ liking of terrorists

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  • Sara

    The reason for secretive execution could be fear of violence and terror by Indian Muslims. Mr. Singhvi should not forget that Indian Muslims massacred and maimed 100 civilians outside Delhi High Court Building in 2011 because they were angry over death sentence for Afzal.

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  • guest

    Bhaia, bhaija fry khalo

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  • prashant saxena

    Vir, you have taken an idealistic stance where the state should do whatever is expected of it, and people who delare war on our motherland get every benefit of the legal system. But how would they have used those benefits? The family of Guru would have raised a storm of hysteria and terrorists would have incited violence in J&K endangering the lives of innocents and security forces. The law had taken it’s course and the guilty had to be punished. What was the most expeditious way to achieve this? Exactly the one taken.

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  • Allie McBiel

    Fk Vir Sangvi and his childen and his mother.. *****

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  • Allie McBiel

    Where are the Terr0rist Hindus when you need them eh? We need the alleged Hindu Terr0rist to take out this Vir Singhvi batard ASAP

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  • Allie McBiel

    Lets all kiII vir singvi

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  • Anonymous

    KAYAR SANGHVI YOU ARE ANTI NATIONAL PAID BY ANTI NATIONAL SONIA GANDI AND HER ANTI NATIONAL FAMILY’S LOOTED MONEY OF INDIAN’S HARD EARNED TAX RUPEES , YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR SELF , GO TO NAPAKISTAN WHERE YOU BELONG THERE YOU WILL FIND MASTERS OF YOUR ITALIAN SONIA GANDI AND HER ANTI NATIONAL FAMILY PEOPLE OF INDIA THROW THIS ANTI NATIONAL OUT OF POWER AS FAST AND AS ERALY AS POSSIBLE, TAKE THIS ANTI NATIONAL KAYAR SANGHVI TO COURT FOR CONTEMPT OF SUPREME COURT

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  • Guest

    Isko dabur Ka chyawanprash khilaao…

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    RajKaregaKhalsa Reply:

    tu aithe aaja, tere @ m m i j @ @ n sadda Lullla c h 0 0 s ke
    maze lerahi hai. Tu bhi aake Lulla lele mera apne muh me k2e,
    teri m@ di F u d d i badi tight hai oye! tujhe janam dene ke baad bhi, hain!!! mast hai teri @ m m @ k2E!!!

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  • sanjay

    Mr writer what is wrong is people masquerading as journos when they are actually 2 penny political stooges. so please.. oh PLEASE no right and wrong from you.

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  • Ravi

    NOthing is wrong with Afzal’s hanging. He took part in the Parliament attack. He may not have fired the gun but he was a conspirator.

    All the people who claim he was innocent are my followers who beleive in my conspiracy theories.

    Yours truly

    NA_Pak Hafees

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  • hussain kodinhi

    Despite documenting the positive change that largely went unnoticed in the clamour of fighting Muslim terror, the book has a few misses and lapses. Though the author admits that his research was confined to major cities, none of the cities in south with considerable number of Muslim population find place in the book. Infact, in the absence of the baggage of partition, Muslims in south India had shown the way in many fields, especially in education and political empowerment of the community.

    For example, Muslims in Kerala often have been cited as a role model due to their considerable improvement in their socio-economic status. While questioning the sectarian politics of the Muslim leadership, the author fails to take note of major political experiment by the Muslims in Kerala and most recently in Assam. However, he describes Muslim’s support for Modi in 2010 civic elections in Gujarat as an example of pragmatic politics. While discussing the vote bank politics of parties, the author completely exonerates the Left saying, “Barring the Left, political parties of all hues have shamelessly exploited Hindu-Muslim differences to build their respective vote banks.”

    In reality, the 30-years of Left rule in West Bengal and the partisan politics of CPI (M) in Kerala have already exposed the faultlines of Left politics.

    The book also does not mention anything about the neo socio-political movements emerging from the community, though it is very early to predict their future.

    http://husainkodinhi.com/524/the-news-that-was-not/

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  • नागदैत्य

    It seems that one can take Hasan out of Ballimaran, but one
    can’t take Ballimaran out of Suroor.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Indian Muslims have total faith in the Constitution of India – that says it all. No other Indian community worth its salt can dare make such a claim.

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