We, The Women



There are very few politicians that I admire. But among those I do, I was greatly disappointed the other day to hear one of them attribute West Bengal chief minister Mamata Banerjee’s tantrums to her `singledom’.

Only, he used the very ancient, very outdated and very antediluvian term for that state of non-marital bliss: spinster. He attributed Mamata’s madnesses to the fact that she was not married and, perhaps, seeing all her friends in a state of married hell (`hell’ is my spin on it) and with children, she poured her frustrations upon the world in the form of targetting the Left, the Congress and every one else who stood in her way.

Personally, I thought, Mamata was simply a mad Bong (and may all Bengalis forgive me for this stereotypical presumption). (For) she reminds me greatly of my Chakravraty uncle (a Godfather of sorts) who now seems like a perfect male version of Mamatadi. In my growing up years, I saw him throw as many tantrums as Mamata does, intimidate people in his booming voice just as Mamata does in her shrill tones, for no reason at all threaten suicide by jumping atop a car roof and threatening to throw himself way down below (ha!), as I believe the Bengal CM did once years ago. I saw him fall at the feet of a much younger girl my age (who ran from that sashtang pranam) because he thought he had seen the Devi (Goddess Durga) in her as she offered prayers to the Sun god. She was offering water through a kalash, gracefully pouring it into her garden when he saw her astride a tiger with a bhaala (spear) in her hand (instead of the water pot) and could swear he had seen a vision…

Chakravarty uncle also threatened to bomb out a cinema hall (he and my father both worked for the ordnance services: he described it as a `bomb factory’) when I and his kids did not get tickets for the first show to the first day’s release of a popular Rajesh Khanna starrer (we were given chairs in the projector room in that `House Full’) theatre on that threat) and had lots of fire-crackers delivered to our home at Diwali ahead of the market opening precisely on that threat to shop keepers… there were so many more mad instances, I cannot begin to list all of them!

I could never work out if he was just mad or was putting on an act for getting things done. For he did manage things (like the cinema tickets which my father could not with his polite `pleases’ and `sirs’ and `thank yous’. Much later, I came to the conclusion that Chakravarty uncle was not as mad as he seemed and acted but he got along (and ahead of others) pretty well in his life on just that act alone.

I have always looked at Mamata Banerjee’s mad acts in similar light – and believed she has an additional handicap: that of being a woman (though being single is not necessarily a handicap, instead it might be quite an asset).

When this politician made those uncharitable remarks about other women politicians, too, like Tamil Nadu chief minister J Jayalalitha and former Madhya Pradesh CM Uma Bharti, I jumped on him and he swiftly retreated. I wonder if he realises that a woman has to work twice as hard as a man to win half the credit for doing a quarter of the job that she does, at the best of times.

And, while I have long felt that many hysterical women in politics bring a bad name to the rest of us in that gender, I can understand: if they do not shout from the roof tops, their achievements are likely to be swallowed up by the men. If they are not dictatorial (like Mrs Indira Gandhi was), they may be taken for goongi gudiyas (dumb dolls) as, of course, the former Prime Minister of India was in the early years when a coterie of old men chose her for the job for precisely the reason that they believed she would be more malleable and highly pliable for being a woman. Boy, did they have another think coming – my hats off to Mrs Gandhi for teaching those patriarchal men a sound lesson!

But, although Mrs Gandhi had all the qualities of an Iron Lady herself, sometimes her achievements fall by the wayside due to the tag of being a beneficiary of dynastic politics (though I feel that that tag suits Rajiv Gandhi better than it does his mother).

But, as I have said before, Mamata is the sole woman in Indian politics who has not benefitted through male patronage as all others (including Delhi CM Sheila Dixit and UP CM Mayawati) have.

To that extent, she is more like former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher, except for the fact that Lady Thatcher thrived on the anti-feminist image of a wife and mother getting to the top of the ladder. I recall a television image of a meeting of European Union leaders where Mrs Thatcher was pushing for a particular policy after much thinking and changing of mind when a male leader commented rather sharply if that God had had so many doubts he would never have created man.

Whereupon Mrs Thatcher silenced all her (male) critics by an equally acerbic repartee, “Well, God did better on second thoughts when he created women!’’

“ It may be the cock that crows but it is the hen that lays the eggs. In politics if you want anything said, ask a man. If you want anything done, ask a woman,’’ she stormed back.

But while disagreeing with the male politicians, I, too, would like Mamata Banerjee to be rather less shrill than she is even after becoming chief minister. She must take lessons from Lady Thatcher who remodelled herself after discovering that while her sex/gender `elevated her visibility, it greatly undermined her credibility’, every step of the way – and that had nothing to do with being single, frustrated, married, contented or otherwise. The men called her a `bitch’ and a `witch’ simply because she was a woman lording over the, well, not `dogs’ or `wizards’ (or even pigs) but, simply, men.

And all the women politicians in India should take cheer from the former British PM’s inspirational approach. She said, “I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.’’ Et tu, Mamatadi!

And don’t we all, We, The Women – single, married, widowed or divorced, politicians or otherwise – know that only too well!

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  • Anonymous

    The real reason Sujata doesn’t like Mamta is because she refuses to lick feet of SoniaG, a requirement for any politicians to be views favorably by paid media.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    I dont find VVS case to be curious at all – its what happens when one goes on playing greedily without yielding place to the new. If he has any grace left, he should announce his retirement from 20-20, 50-50 and the tests. May be he would join the up and coming new format of the future – the 10-10s !

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  • Guest

    In Maharashtra, which is the sole foundation of his power, despite the claims to the NCP being a national party, two things must trouble Sharad Pawar. One, Ajit Pawar undermining his supremacy and the handover to daughter Supriya. Second, the clear eyed recognition that the way the state is now being run, the coalition will not have the momentum to overcome the anti incumbency built up over three terms in office. The latter should bother the Congress high command as well.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Why should I let myself make someone else make me unhappy? That’s the question all desk-rage sufferers should ask themselves and chillax while on the job.

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  • everybodyplays

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  • Muhammad

    Mr.Haq long-time by reading your pro- terrorist and Islamic I had indeed doubt about your veiled Zeehadi bent, taking full advantage of liberal Hindu democratic values and our society, and by knowing Hindu sounding names(they may be even newly convert to Islam)do not try to push your closeted Islamic agenda. Out of 1.2 billions this is one incident deserved the full scrutiny of the psyche why these animals did what they did and how they influenced by such copy book style Islamic barbarity,like sticking ,mutilating private parts(Saurabh Kalia),be-heading,chopping off limbs etc. In Pakistan and Afghanistan follows Sharia,does these fully Islamic countries able to stop cruelty against women which includes barbaric use of force in raping a woman or a young boy? On the contrary, the latest Times magazine covers put the picture of an Afghan Girl whose nose was chopped and acid was thrown on her face because she refused to have sex with her husband. In another recent incident two young girls in Afghanisthan denied the sexual advancement of the two Afghans, they were taken to an isolated place and be-headed. As a Muslim you know fully that your security is fully protected by the majority tax(Hindus) payers money, so you can have the indulgence of such awful Islamic laws which the innocent people are suffering in countries like Sudan and Nigeria. We Hindus are civiled society and it has benn proved through our contribution to civilisation and building human capital through out 7000 years of our existence unlike the 1000 years of barbaric rule of Islam when the millions were killed and the Hindu temples ,Nalanda , Taxsilla,place of ;earnings were destroyed to establish just like your present suggestions of implementing of Islamic barbaric rule guided by Sharia.. We Hindus do not need your zeehadi suggestions to push India towards Isalmic nation like Paksitan or Afghnisthan. Before suggesting such awful barbaric Isalmic law, you should go and live in Pakistan or in Afghanistan and try to understand the Sharia not here in 90% Hindu majority country. This thing happening because of lack of governance and corruption by the rulling of the present UPA governmnet which is supported by the Muslim community. If we take the example of good Goverance , we must take few pages from the adminstrative and governance skill of Mr, Modi and you will see for the past few years there are no violations against women like rapes,kidnapping in Gujarat,only ramoant in UP, Delhi and other Congress and Muslim appeasing vote bank influenced regional political parties like Mulayam etc. So we only need to work good governance to vote for Narendra Modi in up coming 2014 election.

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    Anita Reply:

    There you go another Modtiva troll ranting about eeevvviiiillll Moozzleems.

    I am sick and tired of reading your comments, go get a brain and write offtopic comments otherwise don’t write comments.

    And Newsportals like Hindutantimes showed be sued under IPC for allowing such comments to be published. They don’t have any moderators or if they do, they are not doing their job right.

    Only a few papers like The Hindu moderate comments before filth like above gets published

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    Muhammad Reply:

    I am sick and tried to seeing Muslim women under veil like you who is supporting Sharia inadvertently, taking full advantage living in a liberal Indian society.. Should have been pushed back to Afghanistan or Pakistan to see how things are there,how Sharia is protecting women’s honor may be throwing few gallons of acid or chopping off their body parts. Few months back 2 years old Hindu girl was raped by a 20 years old Muslim guy because the family refused to convert to Islam. The girl’s family got political asylum in Canada. Shame to Muslim appeasing UPA Government to ignore such barbaric act and not offering her shelter in India. If you have any brain, I am sure you don’t have then you could have understood what is the implication of such motivated article to push the Islamic agenda like one is on the offing. And please don’t allow your stupidity further in trying the legality of the content of the open portal like suing HinduthanTImes under IPC. Get brain stupid woman all these are in the open media and in U tube, well when you are blinded wearing veil you only see the horror…. of Modi, nothing else. This type of heinous act is only possible where there is complete absence of Law and order and lack of any governance, that is exactly happening in most of the UPA ruled states.. That is why it is high time that you and your multiplying worthless community people should go back to your original Sharia ruled country like Afghanistan and Pakistan where you guys even see black eyed 72 virgins who would open the gate to Heaven.

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    Brown American Reply:

    Sharia may not be bad for India. India had much less crime against Woman when it was ruled by Muslims. A fact that your hatred and fake name can not deny either.

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    Sudhir Mehta Reply:

    Muslims are barbarians and can not be ever come back to power
    In united Hindustan. The rapist will be tried under provisions of laws and punished properly.

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    engrich Reply:

    Muslims are barbarians and can not be ever come back to power
    muslim made india.tell me any of your achievent.

    kanishka Reply:

    Muslims unmade India. Nehru remade India in 1947.

    Tell me which Islamic country is considered a civilized nation?

    engrich Reply:

    The rapist will be tried under provisions of laws and punished properly.
    he will be given bail 2000 gurantee.

    Gladtide Reply:

    u nomad doughtier rapists, muslims rulers built magnificent monuments, roads, markets and cities,,,In united currptstan there is no place for justice!!!

    Faulitics Reply:

    Sharia is product of a society of Bedouins of very limited intellect. That’s why the punishment part of sharia is barbaric. Not fit for any society in modern times but looks like arabization prevents people from you in criticizing uncivilized barbaric systems like sharia because as a empty vessel, arabization had filled up your mind with taboos.

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    Muhammad Reply:

    Yeah, sounds like slum educated or may I say you got your PHD from Madrassah education in history. During Barbaric 1000 years of Islamic rule the population of India was only 250 mil or less. I*nspite of that, Muslim invaders targeted and kidnapped Hindu women and raping and converting them en mass in to Islam. This was rampant as Koran recommended the kafir women as the prized properties. Look at the era of Mugal emperors and their Harem, most of the Hindu women were forcibly raped and converted and then put in to Harem. In Rajasatan Hindu women participated in “Jahar Brata” to save their honours from the Muslim invaders by jumping in to fire and self immolated them. These are well documented. We need to rewrite the history , all the zeehadi funded, half educated Mdrssaha propaganda Muslim history needs to be scarped. The Muslim in post independence tried very hard to dilute the barbarity they did to Hindu women and all other destructive crime against Hindus and to peaceful Hindu India including burning down all the major Universities (Nalanda, Taxseela etc.)which had sizeable collections of treasured documents and all the narratives of Islamic horror needs to be rewritten.During Independence only Nokahali, and inn hundreds of districts in Bangladesh can pale any historically documented genocides in the modern times, specailly aginst the Hindu women. So just shut up and feel free to go back to your sarah zaha se Accha”paksitan hamara”.

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    engrich Reply:

    all budhdhist temple in india were destroyed by brhmns.brhmns were taking help of rulers to finish budhhdists and jainese in india,now they are doing same with muslims.hate is ur duty and lie staple food.all glittering temples were built during muslim rule.

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    kanishka Reply:

    Hey Taqiyyebaaz, stop spreading lies and twisting the history.

    In 1193, the Nalanda University located in Eastern India was sacked by an Islamic fanatic Bakhtiyar Khilji; this event is seen by scholars as a late milestone in the decline of Buddhism in India. Khilji is said to have asked if there was a copy of the Koran at Nalanda before he sacked it in fire.

    “The Persian historian Minhaj-i-Siraj, in his chronicle the Tabaquat-I-Nasiri, reported that thousands of monks were burned alive and thousands beheaded later as Khilji tried his best to uproot Buddhism and plant Islam by the sword in that part of India; the burning of the library continued for several months and the “smoke from the burning manuscripts hung for days like a dark pall over the low hills.”

    Do you want me to write about Takhshila (Taxila), the second seat of Buddhism and the oldest university of the universe, now in Pakistan?

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    ehgrich Reply:

    In 1193, the Nalanda University located in Eastern India was sacked by an Islamic fanatic Bakhtiyar Khilj

    now brhmns are using state machinary to kill muslims those days they were using state power to finish budhdhists.ayodhya prayag kashi were all built by budhdhist.after their defeat they were converted into vedic teples.nalanda was very dangerous for vedics as budhdhism teaches equality.which is nemesis of hinduism.
    u people are expert liars and twist the history.vedic temples of those days are still standing in nalanda.brhmns were the chief advisors of muslim rulers.they were the mind of state.

    ehgrich Reply:

    that thousands of monks were burned alive

    burning alive is hindu art of killing people.before arrival of muslims in india also brhmns physically liqyidated budhdhists in same manner.nalanda operation was taken at behest of brhmn advisors of ruler.TELL ME ANYWHERE BRHMNS CONDEMNED THIS ACTION.
    PLS GIVE ME THE NAME OF ONE UNIVERSITY,ROAD OR HOSPITAL BUILT BY VEDICS DURING THEIR 3000 YEAR RULE..
    ADMI KO JAHIL RAKHTE THE AUR BHAGWAN BECHTE THE.
    VEDIC PERIOD IS THE DARKEST PERIOD OF INDIAN HISTORY.

    Sha Reply:

    Burning alive is forbidden in Islam. If someone did that then he was not Muslim but a Hindu by Muslim name. So again u burned Nalanda not Muslims.

    Roy Reply:

    @ sha.. few days ago a person was burnt alive in Pakistan as fanatic mass thought he has burnt Quran.

    Muhammad Reply:

    These are Mdrsaaha propaganda.Please provide the list of the Budhhist temples that are destroyed by the Hindus, if you can’t then you will see….as Muslim you are doing your job is to practice”Taqiyya”, How pathetic a religion permitting it’s followers to lie. And is that the Budhiist told the Mugals to take the revenge on Hindus ? You people are shameless liars. Don’t worry whole world’ thanks to U-tubes, facebook, twitter etc’ unveiling the true face of Islam and it’s lies. Be iby Gerrald wilders, or Ayaan Hirsi Ali, or the movie “innocence of Muslim”‘ Islam is going to be thrown in to the history of garbage with all it’s barbarity against the humanity and it’s lies.

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    engric Reply:

    These are Mdrsaaha propaganda.Please provide the list of the Budhhist
    temples that are destroyed by the Hindus, if you can’t then you will see

    budhdhist ruled india for 1000years.this was golden period.u will find budhdhists in surroundings not in the main land.TELL ME WHERE AYODHYA IS MENTIONED IN YOUR HOLY SCRIPTURES.chinese visitorsmentioned this city as budhdhist settlement with name saket.

    Sha Reply:

    According to the John Ankerberg show, 68,000 people accept Islam every 24 hours. Fastest growing religion in the world.

    “(Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods) and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures.”

    [Bhagavad Gita 7:20]

    Read ur own Gita and demolish ur own temples of Demigods.

    Stupid brainwashed people. U have no right to be called Hindu. Muslims practice Sanatan Dharma. U don’t Muslims r true Arya Dherme. Read Bhavishya Purana it clearly mentions that Muslims will establish Sanatan Dherma. U r Asuras creating mischif in the land. Just look at ur selves drinking alcohol and raping women. Is that Arya Dherma?Raksha!

    Hindu Athiest Reply:

    Muslims are really innocent…they wont rape ..they wont steal…they wont lie…what a joke…their religion teaches them to deceit non believers..its a virus ..future looks dark…if we dont act now..Atleast hinduism dont teach to kill,cheat non believers…

    engrich Reply:

    We Hindus are civiled society and it has benn proved through our contribution to civilisation

    under vedic rule doors of education were closed to non brhmns and women.even ur god of knowledge swarasti is illetrate.u people are expert liars.
    muslims will kick u bstrd out of indian political scene soon.

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    momn doter Reply:

    You may be a muslim, but you definitely are not Indian. Hi ****.

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    engrich Reply:

    ashoka built 60000 budhdhist temples in orrisa.all were destroyed by brhmns and monks were slaughtered.budhdhist nuns were the first devdasis of vedic temples.
    creation of hindu samaj was the first major terrorist act on indian soil.committed by vedic invaders from central asia.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vedic religion came first.Buddha himself was Kshatriya.Ashoka was HIndu before converting to Buddhism.

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    Sha Reply:

    None of the examples u quoted r Islamic sharia law. U have no knowledge of the subject and u r merely quoting half baked truth from media our of hatred for Muslims. What u term barbaric is for criminals only and what ur laws r doing is punishing the helpless everyday this is not a single gang rape. Go read the stats of rapes and murders in India. Look at Saudi. Few people get exemplary punishment and majority of innocent sleep peacefully. Punishing criminal is not barbaric punishing innocent in the name of humanity for criminal is barbaric. Hating set of people without knowing the truth is barbaric. U sir r barbaric.U take sides of Mass murderer Modi who sanctioned the killing of unborn babies in their wombs. And u talk of Humanity. Its a joke. U r joke. A shameless inhuman joke. No different then those committed that horrible crime of rape.

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    Ehsan Reply:

    abey Ch**ye pehle tujhe ye pta hona chahiye k sharia law na pakistan mein hai na Afghanistan.

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    Kaffir Reply:

    Send these pigs to where they belong…Pakistan ya Afghanistan

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  • KANISHKA

    Finally, you showed your true green color.

    You like SARIA, take it as much you can;

    We like MODI, we will bring him in 2014

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    ehgrich Reply:

    modi is criminal.he will pay for his deed.india is country of idiots semi literates can survive only here.

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    kanishka Reply:

    ….and you Taqqiyebaz, are lucky to survive in India.

    There is something called the Supreme Court of India which have declared there is no evidence against Modi in 2002 Communal riots instigated by Muslims by burning 58 Hindus in a train near Godhra.

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    engrich Reply:

    first major riot was instigated by rss in ahmadabad 1969.since then they have repeated this performance 20 times.modi jamoura hai.kam to nagpur se hota.around 50000 plus muslims were mascared no one is punished.in hindu legal system killing of shudras carry no punishment.jafri with 69 innocents was burnt alive in broad day light.he made 200 calls to modi.but modi is innocent.he is holy cow.

    engrich Reply:

    compartment was burnt by agents of vhp to provide reason for riot.why muslim will fire.fire was started from inside.wrong and bullshit

    Muhammad Reply:

    Muslim Kutta ,Koran is copied from Jewish Al-Torah and old Testament. Muhammad did not understand the intellectual part that is Kabalah so he made his own feeling and sexual fantasies with six year old bride and other 61 women put them to follow to the brain dead Muslim. It is the doctrine of Muhammads sexual fanatacies when used to have hard drink and pork how he himself pleasure himself. See the film “innocence of Muslim”. How pathetic and sex pervert was your prophet was. Besides, your religion permits sex with animals according to Goggle Pakistan has the highest goggled survey on sex with animals. Only Islam permits that. In Afghanistan the Afghan society allows sex with young boys called “Bacca Bazi”, this tradition was copied from the Beduin and Arab nomad and now indoctrinated in Islam. Then there was another form of temporary sex that is called MOTA. Which means a man and women can have sex temporarily, and it is legal under islam. That is why in Pakistan and other Islamic society you people merry your own cousin sisters. but in Hindu society it goes by Gotra. Genetic read of ancestors. marriage is done through a cross genetic read. You Muslim are filthy and still follow the 8th century cave religion that is why in America and UK and in Denmark they are stopping Muslim immigration completely. In spite of that millions of Muslim wanted to come to this country because all other 53 Islamic countries produce large scale donkey brain people.They are unable to produce a single engineer or doctor or a PHD or a Noble l orate, all they produce is Madrssah educated stupid morons like we are seeing here who think that all the science in the world is written in the koran. (Thts is why US marines peeed on them) Get out of India you Mussalman Kutta otherwiise we create 1000 timers Gujarat in every state.Remember.

    engrich Reply:

    uslim Kutta ,Koran is copied from Jewish Al-Torah and old Testament

    i will say u are an idot.holy quran and torah are totally oppose each other.in holy quran everybody is equal.

    engrich Reply:

    Get out of India you Mussalman Kutta otherwiise we create 1000 timers Gujarat in every state.Remember.

    u are absolutely mad idiot and ill informed person.u can do nothing except killing hapless defenseless indians.soon u will be kicked out of india.

    Biswajit Saikia Reply:

    dont 4get ur hindu brothers are all over world in small quantity, so u’ll get back from those countries. Tell me if u want to get ur brothers get kick out from those countries

    Biswajit Saikia Reply:

    it was done by hindus only………..it ws the politics of NAMO, to kill muslims as he want too which he did, according to his religion which mention to kill ppl from other religion, u hammer head train coach caught fire frm inside

    shankar Reply:

    If india is a country of idiots, u can move to any wise country that u think will accept an idiot like u

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  • KANISHKA

    When tolerant and democratic non-Muslim societies give in to the Muslim religious privileges, many of their toxic anti-non-Muslim components creep in exponentially as their population grows as explained below:

    -Muslims up to 5% of the population (Australia, Canada, Denmark, Germany, Italy, Norway, Spain, Sweden, UK, USA) stay as segregated minority, start Mosque construction, use oil money to influence liberal Journalists for public relations and open Islamic Study Chairs in major universities, proselytize from vulnerable groups, clog streets with open-air congregationary rug prayers, develop sleeper cells for future Jehad;

    -Muslims 5 to 10% (France, Kenya, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland) push for those Islamic believes that are in conflict with the values & tradition of
    diverse societies, ask breaks on jobs for 5-times prayers, establish madrasa
    education, display of veil by their females, demand to rule themselves by
    Saria; They quickly learnt to use, misuse and abuse the freedoms granted to citizens in free and democratic countries to spread vitriol, virulent indoctrination and hate against their non-Muslim hosts, the kafirs, among who they freely chose to migrate and get citizenship through various guiles.

    -Muslims 10 to 25% (Burma, Cyprus, INDIA, Israel, Philippines, Russia, Serbia, Thailand) tend to increase lawlessness and chaos such as mob violence after Friday Sermons for alleged blasphemy or Koran burning by destroying national monuments in India and car-burnings in France. Many actions of native non-Muslims population in full compliance with their own culture, constitution and traditions of freedom of speech will offend Islam resulting in uprisings such as opposition to Mohammad cartoons or veil in public, post false blogs using non-Muslim on-line names, force partition of countries, create mayhem by terror and ethnic cleansing, keep their daughters confined while seducing young non-Muslim girls to marry and forcing conversion, shelter illegal Muslims migrants from all over the world and breed more to increase Muslim population ratio;

    -Muslims 25% to 90% – Once the population of Muslims reaches 25%, forced conversions, hair-trigging riots and ethnic cleansing will start to ensure that the figure reaches 95%. As long as the figure is fewer than 25% the only ways to increase Muslim population are illegal immigration, conversion of poor and illiterates, and high birth rates like rabbits; with the exception of few countries such as NIGERIA (always in turmoil despite huge oil), there are very few countries in the world where the population of Muslims is between 25% and 90%. Indonesia and Malaysia are examples of countries that have seen rapid Islamisation and discrimination of minorities in recent decades.

    -Muslims from 90 to 99% (Albania, Azerbaijan, Algeria, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bosnia, Chad, Chechnya, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kosovo, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Pakistan, Qatar, Sudan, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Turkey, Uzbekistan, West Bank) notice violent jihad, face hair-trigger riots as in Syria, jihad lashkars, unfettered persecution of non-Muslims, use Zakat of funds to spread Islam and terror, target killings, sporadic ethnic cleansing, death for conversion (apostasy and proselytizing), Rule by Saria, start of conspiracy theory, subdue and impose Jizya tax on non-Muslims only, military coups, dictatorships, disappearances of dissidents, enforcement of dreaded Blasphemy Law, start of genocide to drive infidels out with frenzy to make 100% Muslim state;

    -100% Muslim population (Afghanistan, GAZA, Libya, Maldives, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Yemen) should usher Darul-Islam, the Islamic world of Peace; here everybody is a Muslim, Madarasa their schools, Mullah their intellectuals and Koran is the only word. Unfortunately, peace in Islam is a mirage as it can NEVER be achieved, even in 100% Muslim states. By then the entire society becomes radicalized and more-radicalized Cr@zy Muslims intimidate, spread hatred thru network media by morphed pictures, spew venom and satisfy their bl@@d-lust by killing less-radicalized Muslims such as Sunnis killing Shias in Pakistan and Arab world. Worst, the Islamic state becomes either a brutal Islamic Sheikhdom as Saudi Arab with free oil money or a terrorist state like Pakistan using terrorism as the state policy with nuclear bomb in the control of genocidal army or a Somalia, the nation of pirates, all claiming to follow the guidance emanating from the same source, KORAN and SARIA.

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    engrich Reply:

    hindu is the only religion where man is born uneven.hinuism is mother of fascism nazism and apartheism..remaining all written above is bullshit and wrong.
    geeta is hate manual where castes were created by ur love god krishna.who had 1603 wives, also had intimate relationship with neighbour wife called radha.

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    kanishka Reply:

    Taqqiyebaz,

    Muslims continue to teach their children intolerance and murderous hate towards those who think different. They teach their people that
    LIFE BEGINS AFTER DEATH, and that life can be immeasurably improved after death by killing a few non-muslims (Kafirs, Jews, Shias or Ahmadiyas) quoting the source as CORAN..

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    engrich Reply:

    it is only a rumour.neither it is writtenanywhere in holy quran nor we teach our sons anything like this.rss(rumour spreading society)spreads all these stupidities.

    Hindu Athiest Reply:

    Hinduism is not perfect but not as bad as Islam…infact no other religion is as more violent and barbaric as islam…Muslim people are good like any other people …But brainwashed by Islam…they can be evil…As long as they dont read khoran.they will be peaceful..Khoran is the manifestation of evil…sorry if i am rude but think about it…Muslim people are as innocent as any other people..but isalm is evil..think about it.

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    engrich Reply:

    yeh tape main 20 bar padh chuka hoon.

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    kanishka Reply:

    …and still your jehadi mind can’t rebutt with logic what I wrote above.

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @kanishka, it is such a futile wasted effort to make any Islamic nuthead see any reason.
    “kutte ka dhum, sau saal seedhi naali meh rakhkar nikala, toh dhum thedi ki thedi hi rahegi.
    These Indian converts in a total denial mode, they do not want to admit that it was one of their ancestors who was brutalized into “honouring himself” by submitting to Islam of the muslim conquers, and have created this inverted myth of Brahminical “oppression” to deflect from the capitulation of their own ancestor and the vapidness of a fake Arabic identity, only to get “kicked” by the Arabs.
    Sadly, their ancestor had no choice, but, this dimwit has no brains., and whatever is there is only with a Don Quixotic hate of the Brahmins. Engrich Mia, i am not a Brahmin, but if i have any issues with Brahmins, i would like to resolve it as an Indian, I wont wear the garb of a Pseudo-Arab to pick issues with a Brahmin.

    Biswajit Saikia Reply:

    brother u r 4getting about hindus in some part of world…………..they r creating communities building temples, doing pujas , demanding for hindu rights in other nation which in not at all hindu

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    Biswajit Saikia Reply:

    u hav zero knowledge…………..as ur religion, look at u hw barbaric u r, dats wht hindus are n real…….they do only politics n curruption coz its in their boold, take the example of ur own mythological stories…evn though those r nt true n r baseless…..but cleaRLY MENTION HW ur so called gogs with super power used the corrupt way(chall) to kill

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  • engrich

    india should run under sharia as justice under sharia is deterent instant cheap and examplary

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    Faulitics Reply:

    And based on use uncivilized barbaric Bedouin culture.

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  • kanishka

    Zia, you forgot to mention one of the basic requirement of the Saria;

    TESTIMONY OF FOUR (4) EYE-WITNESSES who actually saw the rape by their own eyes.

    Four eye witness for the rape and that too males; in case of females, Saria requires 8 eye-witnesses as famale testimony is given half weightage only compared to that of a male.

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    engrich Reply:

    now medical certificate is accepted.time has changed.

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    kanishka Reply:

    Taqqiyebaz,

    You mean a rapist would submit a medical certificate issued by Hakimji that he was sick to the stomach and not at the scene?

    Any quote from Saria?

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    engrich Reply:

    hakims are found only in india.medical report on rape is accepted.before most of cases woman used to lie.punishment is death so they were taking many witnesses.

    hindus have no lawsof their own.sharia is better than european laws.suppose if i kill somebody sharia has third option of financial compensation.in muslim world 25 lac is blood money many times victim accept this being more useful to family of victim.

    shankar Reply:

    Plus blood money for non muslims is 1/6th of that of a muslim. So even in death, islam divides people as superior muslims and inferior kafirs. And u talk about division of society in hinduism!!

    Faulitics Reply:

    You are not a “true Muslim” then. Mohammad’s laws are timeless.

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    shankar Reply:

    come on.. u mean the koran is not the book for eternity? and that things as per koran will not work in modern times?? U must be cut into 100 pieces and ur mother and sisters should become muhammad’s property with immediate effect. *******, how dare u refute our peaceful religion? We will murder u and ur family… LOL

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  • sayaji

    We do not want medieval laws (Sharia or Manusmruti). We want secular laws with modern sensibilities. We need here simple amendments to CPC where by the law will fulfill its role as a deterrent of crime and the instrument of justice in the context of rape, and related attempt to murder, and the murder.

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  • Waltair

    The death penalty is not the patent of any religion. It is a hangover from medieval times in the minds of people who refuse to see that killing by any name is just killing. Religious mythology of any religion is just a story of good versus evil, relevant to a particular point in time. Don’t think that Hinduism is the only religion whose religious books are a myth. It is not the degree of punishment but education and the surety of punishment that will stop it.

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  • dev

    The author seems to be master in stretching examples and arguments and is trying to develop a backdoor channel for acceptability of conservative and outdated principles.His hints of Shariah as a solution to lawlessness reeks of Jamaat’s ideology

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  • jainu

    we don’t need any religion laws.ammend hundred years old cpc . recruit more police personnel ,train the police with modern equipment ,more police training institutes,crime related course in universities ,upgrade police with latest technology, increase ratio of police,non interference of politician in crime cases,Effective policing,teach children in school about duty of a citizen instead of useless histories,harsh punishment like life sentence with out parole,treat rape as non bailable offence .All this will reduce the crime rate.Media should always give maximum importance about rape issues

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  • Arjun

    There are strict Hindu Vedic laws that applies against incest and rape against women. The problem in India is politicians does not enforce laws strictly and do not punish criminals harshly like in the U.S. These problems can be solved without Shariah, there are more modern and better laws than Shariah. India has a secular democratic constitution that takes precedence over any religious laws. In Muslim countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan women are being killed and brutalized everyday and there are no protests. Atleast in India I see mass protest against such heinous crimes.

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  • Moo ham head

    When americans shove a danda up the *** of mullas n took away raymond davis even when whole porkistan was yelling to hang him,real usefullness of saria came to be known.They paid them blood money n took their man even when he shot 2 porkis in broad daylight.

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  • http://twitter.com/macgupta123 Arun Gupta

    It turned out the death penalty for kidnapping made the kidnapper more likely to kill the victim – minus a witness, for no extra risk. The same holds true for rape.

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  • san

    Muslim in India must govern with muslim law related to criminal law also as in case of personal law.

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    shankar Reply:

    better they can move to pakistan and get all laws as per islam.

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    Faulitics Reply:

    Pakistan was created for such people who believe in uncivilized Bedouin law. They can move there.

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  • engrich

    hindu fascists are liars of highest order,their only aim is to divide

    In
    his incisive study of the Hindutva phenomenon, titled Saffron Fascism,
    Shyam Chand, a Dalit scholar and activist who served for many years as
    member of the Haryana Legislative Assembly, quotes from a secret
    circular sent out by the RSS to its preachers. It clearly indicates the
    sinister Brahminical strategy of using the Dalit-Bahujans to attack the
    Muslims and Christians, while at the same time aiming to keep the
    Dalit-Bahujans under the permanent slavery of the ‘upper’ castes.
    Excerpts from Secret Circular No.411 issued by the RSS:
    [.]
    Scheduled Castes and Other Backward Classes are to be recruited to the
    party so as to increase the volunteers to fight against the Ambedkarites
    and Mussalmans.
    Hindutva should be preached with a vengeance among
    physicians and pharmacists so that, with their help, time expired [sic.]
    and spurious medicines might be distributed amongst the Scheduled
    Castes, Mussalmans and Scheduled Tribes. The newborn infants of Shudras,
    Ati-Shudras, Mussalmans, Christians and the like should be crippled by
    administering injections to them. To this end, there should be a show of
    blood-donation camps.
    Encouragement and instigation should be
    carried on [sic.] more vigorously so that the womenfolk of Scheduled
    Castes, Mussalmans and Christians live by prostitution.
    Plans should
    be made more foolproof so that the people of the Scheduled Castes,
    Backward Classes, Musslamans and Christians, especially the
    Ambedkarites, become crippled by taking in [sic.] harmful eatables.
    Special
    attention should be given to the students of Scheduled Castes and
    Scheduled Tribes so as to make them read the history written according
    to our dictates.
    During riots the women of Mussalmans and Scheduled
    Castes should be gang-raped. Friends and acquaintances cannot be spared.
    The work should proceed on the Surat model.
    Publication of writings
    against Mussalmans, Christians, Buddhists and Ambedkarites should be
    accelerated. Essays and writings should be published in such a way as to
    prove that Ashoka was opposed to the Aryans.
    All literature opposed
    to Hindus and Brahmins are [sic.] to be destroyed. Dalits, Mussalmans,
    Christians and Ambedkarites should be searched out. Care should be taken
    to see that this literature do [sic.] not reach public places. Hindu
    literature is to apply [sic.] to the Backward Classes and Ambedkarites.
    The
    demand by the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes for filling in the
    backlog vacancies in services shall by no means be met. Watch should be
    kept to see that their demands for entry and promotion in government,
    non-government or semi-government institutions are to be rejected and
    their service records are destroyed with damaging reports.
    Measures
    should be taken to make the prejudices amongst Scheduled Castes and
    Backward people more deep-rooted. To this end, help must be taken from
    saints and ascetics.
    Attacks should be started with vigour against
    equality, preaching communists [sic.], Ambedkarites, Islamic teachers,
    Christian missionaries and neighbours [?].
    Assaults should be made on Ambedkar’s statues with greater efforts.
    Dalit
    and Muslim writers are to be recruited to the party and by them essays
    and literature opposed to the Dalits, Ambedkarites and Mussalmans
    written and preached [sic.]. Attention is to be paid to see that these
    writings are properly edited and preached [sic.].
    Those opposed to
    Hindutva are to be murdered through false encounters. For this work the
    help of the police and semi-military [sic.] forces should always be
    taken.”[2]
    *
    In the face of this circular, no more evidence is
    needed to show what Hindutva actually bodes for the Dalit-Bahujans. It
    circular very clearly indicates that Hindutva aims essentially at
    preserving the oppression of the Dalit-Bahujans, in addition to the
    Muslims and Christians, on which the entire edifice of Brahminism
    stands.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/fazel.subian Fazel Subian

    The purpose of a religion is a selfish (Muslim) to become a selfless (Muslimeen).
    The purpose is lost, prehistorical traditions & culture remains.
    Understand the religion.
    ‘TRUE ESSENCE OF RELIGIONS’ To unite all.
    http://www.fazelsubian.com

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  • Harsh

    Mr Zia Haq – you have proved you have Jihadi mindset. Death punishment for rape is not islamic invention, used to be there in Indian society earlier. You wouldnt agree to it, I know.

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  • Anonymous

    Imagine if Sharia laws were applied on Mohammad, that guys would have reduced to pulp by stoning for 9 crimes that he committed.

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  • engrich

    when india was running under sharia,our gdp was 25%of world and literacy 93%of world..till rennainace muslims were leaders in knowledge all over the world.oxford and cambridge were started with books written by muslims of spain.iran is under sharia,now they can capture most advance american drones.

    in last 200 years we were static so was everybody including u people.brhmnsm is crushing india and finishing whatever mental progress we attained during british and muslim period.

    1001 innovative inventions from coffe to camera weremade by muslim scientists.u are expert in manufacturing bhagwans only,.

    before writing any bullshit,remember that u kayasths are illegetimate off spring of brhmns.harami ka sar neeche hona chahiye.u people base ur assesment on propaganda literature.read something of standard then come and argue.

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  • engrich

    tell me name of one school university road hospital built during vedic rule.wealth was taken to temples and ashrams ,pauperising the common ma.

    remaing all is bullshit.except wars with neighbours .

    u say,……Each and every learning centre was smashed, and not a single was built

    name one.u come here to speak lie.muslimsbuilt everything good in india for indians.u brhmns were main beneficiary of state along with rajputs.
    by keeping common indian jahil u treated them far worse.moghul armies were mixture of all races caste.

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  • ehgrich

    muslims built thousands of libraries and universities.alazhar was built 500 years before oxford.oxford and cambridge started as madarssa or religious seminaries books to make them scientific universities were brought from muslim spain.books were wrtten by muslims of spain.
    u are illetrate person fed on rss propaganda.read bagdad library. libraries in cordoba spain with 1 million books.
    did u ever produce anybody equal to ibn sina ,ibn rush omar khayyam etc.algebra alcohol alkaline are all arabic words.
    u are simply jahil and person full with hate.

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  • shankar

    shut up ignorant man. pbuh muhamad fell in love with ayesha when she
    used suckle her mother’s milk. Our beloved prophet saw her being bathed
    naked by her mother when she was 6months old and had an instant hard on
    in his pants.. but since he was not pedo, he controlled it.. 72 virgins
    only because our prophet was illiterate and could not count beyond 72.
    And unlike u phoren whisky lovers, we will get ‘country’ daaru because
    we all love our ‘country’.

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  • rahmat

    The credit for organizing education on a systematic basis goes to Akbar (1542–1605), a contemporary of Queen Elizabeth I of England and undoubtedly the greatest of Mughal
    emperors. He treated all his subjects alike and opened a large number
    of schools and colleges for Muslims as well as for Hindus throughout his
    empire. He also introduced a few curricular changes, based on students’
    individual needs and the practical necessities of life. The scope of
    the curriculum was so widened as to enable every student to receive
    education according to his religion and views of life. The adoption of Persian as the court language gave further encouragement to the Hindus and the Muslims to study Persian.

    Akbar’s policy was continued by his successors Jahāngīr and Shah Jahān. But his great-grandson Aurangzeb
    (1618–1707) changed his policy with regard to the education of the
    Hindus. In April 1669, for instance, he ordered the provincial governors
    to destroy Hindu schools and temples within their jurisdiction; and, at
    the same time, he supported Muslim education with a certain religious
    fanaticism. After his death, the glory of the Mughal empire began
    gradually to vanish, and the whole country was overrun by warlords.

    During the Mughal period, girls
    received their education at home or in the house of some teacher living
    in close proximity. There were special arrangements for the education
    of the ladies of the royal household, and some of the princesses were
    distinguished scholars. Vocational education was imparted through a
    system of apprenticeship either in the house of ustāds (teachers) or in kārkhānahs (manufacturing centres).

    Muslim
    rulers of India were also great patrons of literature and gave
    considerable impetus to its development. Akbar ordered various Hindu
    classics and histories translated into Persian. In addition, a number of
    Greek and Arabic works were translated into Persian. Literary
    activities did not entirely cease even in the troubled days of later
    rulers. Men of letters were patronized by such emperors as Bahādur Shah and Muḥammad Shah and by various regional officials and landlords.

    Such
    is the history of Muslim education in India. It resembles ancient
    Indian education to a great extent: instruction was free; the relation
    between the teachers and the taught was cordial; there were great
    centres of learning; the monitorial system was used; and people were preoccupied with theology and
    the conduct of life. There were, however, several distinctive features
    of Muslim education. First, education was democratized. As in mosques, so in a maktab
    or madrasa all were equal, and the principle was established that the
    poor should also be educated. Second, Muslim rule influenced the system
    of elementary education of the Hindus, which had to accommodate itself
    to changed circumstances by adopting a new method of teaching and by
    using textbooks full of Persian terms and references to Muslim usages.
    Third, the Muslim period brought in many cultural influences from
    abroad. The courses of studies were both widened and brought under a
    humanistic influence. Finally, Muslim rule produced a cross-cultural
    influence in the country through the establishment of an educational
    system in which Hindus and Muslims could study side by side and in which
    there would be compulsory education in Persian, cultivation of Sanskrit
    and Hindi, and translation of great classics of literature into
    different languages. Ultimately, it led to the development of a common
    medium of expression, Urdu.

    Education
    in the Muslim era was not a concerted and planned activity but a
    voluntary and spontaneous growth. There was no separate administration
    of education, and state aid was sporadic and unsteady. Education was
    supported by charitable endowments and by lavish provision for the
    students in a madrasa or in a monastery.

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  • shankar

    It may be true that India had 23% of world GDP under Akbar, also it must be true that India had 93% of world GDP before muslims came to India.

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    ganesh Reply:

    any source.a country where doors of education were closed for 99.5%of population can not have higher gdp.zhoot bol ke jahil rakh ke bhagwan bechte the.give me the name of college road hospital library built by vedic rulers of india.

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  • shankar

    we built so many tombs and made lara croft’s life easier. we broke taxila and nalanda because the guru there mocked our prophet as paanchvi fail.. this is outrageous!! he was a pure illiterate and we can only marry 4 women, but not study till class 4 to get failed in class 5!!! .. we r peaceful people so we slit their throats, else we could have also done satyagraha. we built madarsas to carry our legacy. We love missiles and rocket science and therefore we make missile looking minarets everywhere.

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    engrich Reply:

    LORD MACAULAY’S ADDRESS TO BRITISH PARLIAMENT 2nd FEBRUARY 1835

    “I have travelled across length and Breadth of India and I have not
    seen aperson who is a beggar who is a thief. such a wealth I have seen
    in this country, such high moral values, people of such caliber, that I
    do not think we would ever conquer this country, unless we break the
    backbone of this nation, which is her spiritual and cultural heritage,
    and, therefore, I propose that we replace her old and ancient
    educational system, her culture, for if the Indians think that all that
    is foreign and english is good and greater than their own way,they will
    lose their selfesteem, their native culture and they will become what we
    want them , a truly domintaed nation

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  • peace

    All those non muslim brothers kindly save your skin for the day of judgement. Don’t pass hatred remarks. You have no knowledge about peaceful islam. Read and learn religious literature before leaving hatred comments.

    Brother Zia is writing very honest and truthful piece.

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  • peace

    The sunnah of islam teaches lots and lots of patience which perhaps none of us possess. Specially internet surfers!!!

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  • peace

    I repeat God’s punishment is severe. Don’t forget muslims and non-muslims brothers n sisters we are living in this world for a very short period and soon we all have to say good-bye. The day angels of death appear at our doorstep, our properties and other possessions will be taken away by someone else.And we all are transferred to another world forever!!!

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  • peace

    The holy quran says every soul shall have a taste of death. So pls fear your lord and do your best in this short span of time.

    And those who have misconception about islam and rights of women in it. Kindly read the last sermon of our last prophet(pbup)

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  • peace

    For your knowledge i m dispatching few quote:
    “….O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to
    your women, but they also have right over you. If they abide by your
    right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness.
    Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners
    and comitted helpers….
    Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer for your
    deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness
    after I am gone…
    Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that
    you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon
    your deeds…
    O
    People, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL
    BE BORN. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand my words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QUR’AN and my
    example, the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray.
    All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to
    others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than
    those who listen to me direcly. BE MY WITNESS O ALLAH THAT I HAVE
    CONVEYED YOUR MESSAGE TO YOUR PEOPLE.”
    -Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)

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