Shiv Sena badnaam hui…



If this had been the Youth Congress or even the Yuva Morcha of the Bharatiya Janata Party, Bal Thackeray would have gone red in the face, spouted some purple prose and cried blue murder.

But since it was grandson Aditya Thackeray, the Shiv Sena patriarch looked on benignly and had only praise for the Yuva Sena leader.

I am sure Aditya is doing well in his enterprise – after all the Sena never had a youth wing before and Thackeray allowed it only after much persuasion by both Aditya and his father, Uddhav.

The organisation completed a year on October 17 and the Yuva Sena marked the event at a grand show with some raunchy numbers like Sheela Ki Jawani, Munni Badnam Hui, Jalebi Bai etc, complete with gyrating dancers in skimpy clothes et al, and some even more saucy Marathi songs.

Now, the Yuva Sena was formed as a challenge to Uddhav’s cousin and Bal Thackeray’s nephew, Raj Thackeray. Ever since Raj broke away from the mother party he seemed to have caught the imagination of quite a lot of youth in Maharashtra with only the old fuddy-duddies left behind with Uddhav.

While these old timers did not quite appreciate a 19-year old Aditya thrust upon them as their `leader’, somehow the youthful tiger cub does not seem to have posed enough of a challenge to his father’s cousin as yet.

People still seem to be comparing Raj with Uddhav and hanging on to the original Shiv Sena only because of their reverence for Bal Thackeray. Under the circumstances, it may be easy to understand why the Sena thought it was out of touch with the mobile-toting, disco-going youth and perhaps felt raunchy numbers and sexy songs were the way to their hearts and minds.

Now, while the Yuva Sena charges critics with attempting to divert attention from their good work by raising a controversy over their dance numbers, clearly many hardcore Shiv Sainiks did not quite agree with the concept. While Uddhav Thackeray arrived at the do much after, there were several senior Sena leaders who woke up from their naps halfway through to stop the dances abruptly, knowing well the opprobrium the programme will attract.

Predictably, rival political parties have been quick to jump down the Shiv Sena’s throat. “Such shameful behaviour from a party which believes in moral policing to save Hindu Sanskriti is condemnable,” said the NCP.

A Sena supporter bemoaned the fact that untrained people like Aditya Thackeray might sound the death knell of the Sena by going contrary to all that the party has held dear for years.

While the Sena has gone to extremes in its attempts at moral policing, perhaps the Sheila and Jalebi numbers by dancers in backless cholis only points to a generational shift in the party. But I believe it would have been wiser to apprentice the young boy with senior leaders in the Sena who are heading various units (like the Kamagar Sena, for example, or even the Vidyarthi Sena), for several months each, rather than hand him a forum of his own to do with as he pleases.

A 20-year-old will know only as much as he does and, perhaps, needs the guidance of wiser heads and the help of older hands before he can begin to pose a challenge to anyone let alone his uncle, who has spent years perfecting the art of political one-upmanship.

I had suggested as much to some Sena leaders who had once asked me about what the media thought about Aditya’s entry into politics — his father should have allowed him to work his way to the top, rather than impose him over others from above. That would not only have ensured that he learnt all the ropes (and tricks) but he would also have got to know the organisation/party from inside out, developed some goodwill of his own as well his own band of loyalists from among all sections and not just some college friends. He could then have brought a young perspective to an ageing party that would have done good for all three generations of leaders in the Shiv sena. Many Sena leaders had agreed with my perspective and, from what they said, I believe they will not lend their wisdom too easily to Aditya. That, in later years, could prove to be a deep flaw within the leadership, for no party can be wholly composed of only either the young or just the old. It ought to be all things to all people, something that the Congress manages to do even today at a time when it is not at its best or strongest.

But the threat posed by Raj Thackeray had been so intense that, I guess, the older Thackerays just lost patience and gave in to whatever (or whoever) they thought would pose a challenge to him. Raj must now be really laughing up his sleeve – he never did do a Sheila number even as his own MNS refrained from coming in the way of Valentine celebrations and at one time also decided to conduct ballroom dancing classes for the young.

But, of course, Sheila and Jalebi Bai were indeed a little extreme and did succeed in pushing any recount of the good work the Yuva Sena might have done in the past year off the media reports the next day. Perhaps Aditya was right that the controversy was a conspiracy against him. Or, perhaps, he was just being what young men his age are all the time: young, naïve, with a zest for life and a taste for the salacious that appeals to people his age and comes from being, well, so really young.

Nonetheless, the generational shift has given the party a bad name. Shiv Sena toh badnaam ho hee gayee!

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  • Anonymous

    Why is Sujata Jealous of those dancers? When Yuva Congress will organize a function in Mumbai, I am sure it will invite Sujata to dance on number “Sujata Badnaam hui Rahul Baba tere liye”.

    She will get her due.

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  • Anonymous

    Shut up…you SOB. When Sujata can write BS on others, she should be ready for the same.

    Bada aaya Press council of India ka Tatta.

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  • Anonymous

    There was one Vir Snaghvi who gave us a gem—”that a strong stable Pakistan was not in India’s interest.”

    There was another Vir sanghvi who name featured in the Radia tapes and … becasue he was more decent then others caught on tape… went into penance.

    Maybe it is time to recheck the Vir Sangvhi who could put big ideas in simple language… again

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    Ag Reply:

    You should check your logic. Vir Sanghvi’s views on the impact of strong Pakistan is not at odds with this piece.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Being illogical is so much easier.

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  • Rajiiiv

    You left out the conclusion: Indian foreign policy towards Pakistan is un-professional, emotional and divorced from the reality that the Pakistan state is corrupt and dishonest to the core and any engagement with it will only bring deceit.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_URSXATBEMZ7HUAB3OH36PLYWDM Ashok

    What the columnist has left unsaid is that the warmth – affection may not quite be politically correct, it is still barely spring, not summer – that Indians show Pakistanis is reciprocated on the other side of the border as well. That it exists despite the history and record of the last sixty five years is a very hopeful portent for the future.

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  • Muhammad Ahsan

    Great, article. But brother although a lot of efforts are being done, not only within the political scope of Pakistan, but from foreign influences too, to make us have a negative view of India.

    I as a 100% Pakistani, love India, your country is so diverse in it’s beauty, not to mention, the Islamic history it has also.

    As you ended terrorism is a problem, and I hope we solve it, so our neighbors can be pleased with us, so we can also live safely.

    Again, we love you, not hate. We believe in ” kar bhala, so ho bhala”. InshAllah right leadership will come forth in our country, and we will treat India, as a great neighbor that the truly are.

    - From your brother, from Lahore, Pakistan.

    Khudahafiz.

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  • Dr Mishra

    Dear Muhd Ahsan

    Welcome to this blog and thank you for your comments. Sadly, your type- peace loving and pro-India, constitute barely 5% of the Pakistani population. I speak on the strength of my 30 year interaction with Pakistani fellow docs in UK here, and on my daily interactions with the huge Pak community here in Yorkshire.

    Pl do stay on and contribute both here and on Vinod Sharma’s blog, where Rajiiv and Vijay Kumar above, my cyber friends, often comment.

    Can I finally say that I am sickened absolutely by the fawning we gave and continue to give to Mushy- butcher of Kargil.

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  • Ag

    Isn’t it bothersome that we are so fawning over Pakistanis even after being kicked in the shin many many times? It is not a strength to be glorified, but a weakness to work on and eliminate.

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  • RajX

    Indian society has this gift of spinning it’s weakness as a strength. Welcoming a leader of a country who have promised to bleed us with a thousand cuts is suicidal to say the least. Do people remember the Mumbai attacks, parliament attack, serial bombing carried out Dagwood “bhai” with Pakistani rdx

    We even spin our relationships with even our past colonizers. For example, we claim that we have a “historical” relationship with Iran. Strangely no one cares to expand on the nature of this “relationship” for a very good reason. This “relationship” is that of the one between a slave and a master.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Pakistan suffers from inferiority complex. The pygmies believe that they are the descendants of Chengiz Khan and can any day barge into India, forgetting the fact that we have defeated them in wars whenever they chose to attack us.
    Actually Pakistan is USA’s Israel for South Asia, to be used to terrorise the populace. It was carved out of India to keep a check on us, the communists China and the former USSR. Pakistan played its role out in dismantling of the USSR by helping the Afghans drive out the commies from Kabul. Now it is helping to put a check on India’s growth by sending terrorists time and again and by making us concentrate our troops in the western and northern sectors. Despite China’s help to that country, Pakistan harbours sympathisers of the rebels of Xinjiang Muslim province of China – the USA can any day decide to use these when it choses to. Pakistan is allowed to play in this area by the US and its allies as they stand to lose nothing. All that goes to prove that India is a very tolerant country – it is tolerating Pakistan as its neighbour with this much sagacity and forbearance!

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  • http://thepoliticalopportunist.blogspot.com/ abhishek sharma

    India needs Pakistan and Pakistan needs India to remain countries. Once there is no Kashmir issue, there will be no Pakistan and no India.

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    farha sen Reply:

    abhishek sharma hum kashmir toh le k rahen gay, tere baap ka h

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  • Anonymous

    @ Vir Sanghvi

    rehabilitation in the public eye wont come by censoring comments for sure. People would feel that you something to hide. let it be a free debate. People even may say the harshest things… but be brave enough to face them.

    Amongst teh HT blog sites, Vinod Sharma gets 1500 or so comments for every posting. Yours are stuck at 10 to 15 now…

    Well… I think you should learn to respect public sentiments…

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  • M.a.Rajah

    There is too much poison drilled into people of India by the media to demonise Pakistan over anything but everthing.i have three Indians working with me a punjabi Hindu ,gujrati Hindu and gujrati Muslim ,each one of these guys agree on one thing that they are brainwashed from early age to have anti Pakistan feel. I personnely believe that by in large majority of Indians are excellent people , however this not say that some igronent Pakistanis are immune to this type behaviour ,we should try and put some love and effection when ever we meet and get this menace out of thoughts .my advise to Muslim is behave like Muslim .we have Islam to guide us , otherwise we will go into the dark ages

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    Deepak Kumar Reply:

    we are not brain washed against pakistan in india,Ur country is of no significance to us,About the dark ages, Islam is a black hole its impossible to get of it.

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  • Anonymous

    No matter whether so called Minority is educated or not, a Muslim will always blame BJP and Hindus, there is no difference between one pickpocket roaming on street who is uneducated and falls victim to preachings of Maulvi and Mullahs and you as a writer, first tell Muslims to get over with there hate, learn to coexist with others, stop using physical assaults in everything and stop acting as victims and forcefully or deceitfully picking up hindu girls and converting them by sweet talks, finally they should be party of country and give solutions instead of just producing more and more babies by marrying to 4 wives and producing 4-8 babies out of each wife, i have seen even in Delhi where one Muslim man has 32 children, where is the space and resources in country.

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  • Sumit Bose

    I fail to comprehend the selective outrage of the Muslims. When Muslims massacre Muslims ( Darfur, Iraq etc etc) the entire muslim world and the street-corner rabble-rousing mullas are suspiciously silent. When other communities react to the provocations of the muslims, the entire “ummah” suddenly erupts in loot/plunder mode.
    It was interesting to note that no SMSes were sent out in Gujarat, and in Gujarat no people of the North East, (who are there in large numbers) felt the insecurity to leave Gujarat.
    As if the tragedy was not not enough, our Indian government has reduced the sufferings of thousands to a comedy, accusing Pakistan for this all! Which translates, that the mobsters who terrorized the thousands to leave so many cities will face no force of the law catching upto them!

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  • Anonymous

    I think we need to distinguish between incidents, episodes and the underlying
    philosophy here. There is clarity in RSS’s
    strategy. They wish to continue to portray the Muslim community as Alien Others,
    not “one of us”. To do this it either
    stages various incidents, such as Rath Yatras, Communal Riots or it exacts
    political mileage out of spontaneously occurring incidents such as illegal
    migration of Bangladeshi’s. The congress
    secularism whilst it started on a very politically correct and liberal footing
    has been severely compromised and is now a very pale shade of its former
    self. For as long as the RSS will continue to regard
    Indian Muslims as Aliens and spare no effort to OTHER them, we will continue to
    have our politics being played in communal terms. Bangaldeshi migration will
    become yet one more incident in the chain that stretches back 65 years.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/deepakj Deepak Jain

    Dear Author, you should rename the blog as “Assam – another product of BJP’s sectarian agenda”. This will make it easy for you to name all your future blogs too – just replace the first word with whatever the issue may be.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/deepakj Deepak Jain

    And yet Muslims continue to vote for Cong+NCP who have ruled the state forever, except for 5 years. So why crib

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  • gaffar

    don’t ask for 4.5% obc sub quota, ask govt for overall reservation quota like 33% ladies reservation, overall reservation of all minorities is better

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  • sabahat sai

    pakistan zindabad

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    Deepak Kumar Reply:

    I, hope pakistan lives long for this slogan

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  • rabia agha

    salman hates india.

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  • pooja gupta

    hindu hai hi kutti qaum l0ve pak

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  • pooja gupta

    gandhi (late) khusath ne india azaad karwake bht bara paap kiya hai halanke ab iski awashakta nhe rahi bharat **** bhagwan **** are koi 1 ho toh bolo sale 15, 16 toh bhagwan hain mein hun to indian gharane se par india ka riwaaj aur taur tareeke dekh kar ajiz hun i l0ve allah n i love pak.

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  • salma

    inke bollywood ko bs rona hi ata he are hollywood ki naqal karke filmein banate hain aur pak ko apne se kam tar samajhte hai india puri duniya par bojh he, YA ALLAH UTHALE IS INDIA KO TAKE ZAMEEN PAR SAKOON AJae AMeeN.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002281383123 Deepak Kumar

    This is the story of issac and ishmael,issac is the legitimate son of Abraham and sarah.Ishmael born to hagar a servent of sarah not a rightfull son, That is why all muslims are socially Misfit people.

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  • Deven Dalal

    After independence Pakistan had no continued able leadership. There was a need of creating a self identity so strong that the future generations would not question the very idea of forming a separate nation. The origin of Islam in India was never discussed anywhere. It was just Muslims and Hindus divided by the British to continue their rule. Historically Islam was spread in India by the Afghan kings. The poor Hindus could firstly ill afford to pay Jaziya tax and secondly good amounts of money,jobs and social status was given to them if they accepted Islam.
    The conversions carried on for almost 900 years.The sir names of these converts, however remained same eg dagar, waraich, Gill, Tarar, Chauhan, Khokhar(Hindu /sikh Jats and Rajputs) ,Patankar(Hindu Brahmins) etc. Almost 85 to 90% Muslims in area which came to be known as Pakistan are basically converted Hindus.
    The name of Pakistan never existed before 1936 and even then the idea of a separate nation ever existed.However the greed of certain leaders with miss-guidance of rich land-lords saw the birth of a new nation in 1947.
    These people responsible for the creation now had to resort to some theories to justify their actions.The main theory which surfaced was the Two Nation Theory which failed badly with the creation of Bangladesh.
    These people also tried to change the course of history by depicting that Pakistan ruled India for thousand years, A point rubbished by all historians. Also educational text books were on glorification of Islam and hatred for other religions.
    A society of young people grew up reading these ideals.Their martial race theory failed as Pakistan started all the wars against India and lost badly in all of them (see you tube).
    Now Pakistan had false sense of pride, bad education ,no industry to give jobs to their un-employed youth.This prompted Pakistan to join sides during the cold war era ie with USA.This benefited Pakistan economy for sometime. The leaders however diverted maximum funds to take Kashmir by force and by putting maximum funds in Swiss banks, in their personal accounts.The education, public infra-structure and industry was never developed.
    Now Pakistan had good strength of un-educated un-employed youth. This would have created unrest but for Soviets taking over Afghanistan.The controllers of Pakistan(USA) funded them to create an army of Jihadis against the Soviets.The poor youth of Pakistan got a job . They could now send money to their families for sustenance.
    The govts kept changing however the control remained with the ISI in Pakistan which was responsible for giving a job to these people, the job of International terrorism.
    The Americans after achieving their aim left Pakistan and Afghanistan for themselves. This created stronger organisations of terrorists trained by Pakistanis in their terror camps. Pakistan got bolder after becoming a nuclear country and it’s bloody hands could be identified in the terror attacks all over the world.
    The Pakistan organised attacks on India ie the Mumbai serial blasts, attack on Indian Parliament and Mumbai massacre and the Kargil misadventure, put spotlight on Pakistan. Pakistan lost all friends except for China and S.Arabia(which funded Pakistani Nuclear Bomb factories).
    The killing of OBL in Pakistan, Pakistan’s help to Taliban in Afghanistan against Americans finally nailed them squarely.
    The Taliban ran for cover under US attacks and entered Pakistan.Now it was difficult to identify the Talibanis from the local population.The infighting between political parties saw these un-employed youth again getting a job to sustain their families by becoming gun-runners(gangsters) for the political enemies.There are nearly 40 to 45 groups.Most prominent being TTP.
    The terrorists in far flung area joined the tribal leaders and started to challenge the over-stretched and de-moralised Pak Army ( crushing defeat at Kargil war) .
    Now in-spite of best efforts of Pakistan, these people have refused to come to the table as they will loose jobs . Finally in state of desperation Pak Airforce and Army have launched attacks and killed some terrorists but more of civilians.Pakistan still refuses to learn from the history.They could have done better with good education, logical planning and good governance. High time they forget about Kashmir and other so called core issues and resort to trade if they have to survive in a respectable manner.Sad to see death of a nation which was part of us not very long ago. However sir , just remember that we are not interested in destroying you as who can help anyone who is destroying himself with a sense of great self pride. We wish Pakistan well ALWAYS.

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