Falling in line (or not)



Recently I ran into a friend of union minister for science and technology Vilasrao Deshmukh who told me the latter had been quite incensed with his recent cabinet colleague Gurudas Kamat.

“Kindly don’t tar me with your brush,” he is reported to have told Kamat. “You may be unhappy with what was doled out to you but I am not. So don’t make out that I am annoyed and thus put my job in jeopardy.”

Kamat and Deshmukh are two ministers who skipped the swearing-in ceremony during the recent cabinet reshuffle. But while Kamat was rebelling, in Deshmukh’s case the reasons lay elsewhere. Not only was he busy with his elections to the Mumbai Cricket Association (MCA) at the time that Dr Manmohan Singh’s new cabinet was being sworn in, I am told, he was also celebrating the birth of his first grandchild. So his High Command ‘understood’, as it did not in the case of Kamat, why Deshmukh was not present at his swearing-in in New Delhi on the day.

Kamat’s rebellion has been remarkable – I have never known anybody in either the UPA or the NDA or any other government before that to quite refuse a berth in the cabinet. But Kamat was miffed that he had been given only independent charge while many others junior to him in the party had a cabinet rank. He was also quite upset that his department was being handed over to the relatively junior MP Milind Deora, son of his rank rival in Bombay, Murli Deora, I am told.

Kamat had written letters to both the Prime Minister and his party president Sonia Gandhi pointing out his seniority and how unjust it would be to expect him to work in a junior position to his own juniors in the state (read Mukul Wasnik).

Sonia Gandhi had previously been quite kind to and accommodating of Kamat and his demands so there was nothing that led the former minister of state for home to believe that she would not give in to his demand once again.

But that is where, this friend told me, Kamat read it all wrong. “He held out the subtle threat of rebellion and resignation. And one thing I have noticed is that if this lady scents even the slightest whiff of a threat, she absolutely drops you like a hot potato and it is a really long, long time indeed before you could be rehabilitated. So she asked Kamat to just get lost.”

No wonder Deshmukh was scared. I recall him telling me, at a time when his exit from the job of Maharashtra’s chief minister the first time round was imminent, “I was made chief minister by Soniaji and only she can remove me from the post. I serve at her will. So if she has lost confidence in me and asks me to quit, I have to go. Without a word of protest.”

People had been urging Deshmukh to make a show of strength from among his supporters in the legislature (which at the time outnumbered his detractors) but he declined. ” It will serve no purpose,” he said, “besides jeopardising the careers of all those who sign a petition in my support. As an obedient soldier, I have a chance. Any sign of resistance and I am done for.”

Might seem very sycophantic and spineless but from the Congressmen’s point of view, they at least live to fight another day. So, not surprisingly, Deshmukh was rehabilitated within weeks with high level party posts and returned as Maharashtra’s chief minister again – only to fall prey to 26/11 and have to go again. But then once again he was back in quicker time – as a full-fledged minister in the Union cabinet. And he would rather leave it that way in the hope that there will be more coming his way – the ‘more’ being his heart’s desire to return as CM a third time.

Congressmen know that however important they may be, they are still not indispensable to the party. And that was Kamat’s fatal flaw – since then he is making himself indispensable to his constituents with vigorous jan sampark programmes to retain legitimacy and now can only pray and hope his party leader is not really offended (or gets over it soon).

For a chaotic party like the Congress I find all that rather bemusing and mystifyingly disciplined. So it was such a contrast last week and this when the BJP, which has positioned itself as a party with a difference, should have to face so much rebellion from its own cadres in Karnataka.

B S Yedyurappa would not go without a fight, he cocked several snooks at his leaders, showed them scant respect, presented them with fait accomplis (by declaring his heir as Karnataka chief minister) and ultimately compelled his own high command to give in. Now he has added a codicil: he will be back in six months and his party leaders, clearly, will have little to do with it! Not predictably, with little iron control at the top, the state unit of the party has now gone fractious and the BJP leaders put into the untenable situation of taking sides to quell further rebellion which can only engender, well, even further rebellion.

But that is as it only can be. For even Gopinath Munde’s rebellion, not once but twice, against party leaders has been tolerated in the BJP as the Congress would never have fathomed vis-à-vis any of their own state leaders. Remember? — When Sharad Pawar questioned Sonia Gandhi’s legitimacy, she resigned. That prompted a mass congregation around her and it was Pawar, who had dreamt of taking over the party, who had to go and form another one of his own.

So over the years, and reinforced by the events of the last couple of weeks, I have learnt several things about our political parties. The disciplined ones are actually chaotic and the seemingly unruly ones actually operate to a strictly orchestrated regime. Also, that the party with a difference has so many differences that they just cannot keep them under wraps and the party with so many voices does not allow a peep out of place and none gets through (as in the case of Sonia Gandhi’s illness that took the entire nation by surprise).

I can now just keep my fingers crossed for the BJP top brass and for Gurudas Kamat.

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  • penntemp

    Dear Ms. author,

    Please remember that the BJP is much more democratic than the Congress. The BJP allows genuine internal dissent. The Congress does not. I would much rather be with the BJP than an authoritarian Congress.

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    Raj Reply:

    That’s a great spin to put on what’s essentially a leaderless, rudderless movement that wannabe like the Congress. Congratulations for belonging to a me-too part whose only original idea is to demolish a mosque one decade, mass-massacre Muslims the next and completely run out of ideas the third!

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  • Akhilesh Mishra

    Hi Kushal,
    Returning to your blog after a long time, (not as in reading it, which I was a regular at, but in commenting) and I notice something interesting. Infact two things.

    1. “I prevailed eventually (well, I am the boss)…..” — When did this happen? Are you now the Editor of Brunch? Congrats !

    2. “I had just one resolution for 2012 – to stop being such an antisocial element.” — fantatsic. So when can we see you on Twitter?

    Akhilesh

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    Kushal Reply:

    Ah, that’s a typo, Akhilesh. It should read not ‘I’m the boss’ but ‘I’m her boss’. That’s what comes of writing blogs at 4 am after Brunch production.

    Not being antisocial does not apply to social media. I’ve never seen the point of that and I still do not see the point. Also, with carpal tunnel syndrome, the less time I spend on a computer or mobile device, the better for me.

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    Akhilesh Mishra Reply:

    Hmm. Medical condition aside, I still hope that you do make it to Twitter. As it is the best site where one can mix social activity along with professional. You are a sure to be a big hit there. Many of your colleagues are already there.

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    Kushal Reply:

    I know many of my colleagues are already there, but, thank heavens, I’ve never succumbed to the keeping up with other people syndrome.

  • Atul8

    Kushal,

    An excellent new year resolution (note, no caps here).

    And to help you along in your disquisitive odessey, I suggest Tom Robbins collection of articles titled “Wild Duck Flying Backwards” (caps in deference to the author)

    Have a great new year!!

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    Kushal Reply:

    Thank you, Atul8. I shall order that book from Flipkart immediately.

    Hope you’re having a great new year.

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  • Kushal

    Ghoda: Huh?

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  • Kushal

    Nope, Alwyn, I was born before the pin was introduced, but I wasn’t literate even in 1972, so I certainly wasn’t writing letters. I think I wrote my first letter in 1976-77 or so, by which time I guess pin codes were taken for granted. I have no memory of ever addressing an envelope without a pin code.

    How many pins existed in 1972? Do you still have the booklet or the memory?

    And thank you for saying nice things about this blog. It’s very heartening. :-)

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  • Kushal

    I know, Parmanu. Isn’t it delightful?

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  • Kumars1

    What has happened Vir Singhvi? You standing up against mullahs? Didn’t get your usual ‘Nira Radia’ backhander from Congis this time?

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  • Kumars1

    You are welcome to migrate to numerous progressive rule of law corruption free pece haven Muslim countries To name a few: Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Sudan, Saudi, Yemen, etc. Any problems? Blame the Jews, the West, Hindus, Russians, the whole world!

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  • Gupta

    Yes, you have a right to protest but that is where the line ends. Crossing over into threats of violence is totally unacceptable. For example, muslims around the world protesting at a book is alright, but wanting to kill a man is a sign of breakdown of civilization.
    Do you understand the difference between the two?

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  • http://twitter.com/KrishnaBhagawan Krishna Bhagawan

    you see how right to offend (in your case right to lie) 800 mil hindus are so important.

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  • Anonymous

    Spoken as someone who has no clue about Rushdie at all. Societies should not be restricted to make them “civilized”, rather, individuals within a society should civilize themselves by controlling their own behaviour.

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  • Anonymous

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    —————————————————————————————————————————

    This post is especially meant for all spinmasters of the dynasty as it will help them create some spin on why our dear Vadraji is the need of the hour… the mood of the moment and the flavour of India !

    Look all you Indians!! Robert ji is very handsome chap and can speak gud English. Thum saala UP bhaiya kya samjhega?

    His name is imported his ideas are Mummy supported. Thus saala Indian gali ka doggie kya samjhega….? :)

    Look at the rise and rise of Robert Vadra. A true example of entrepeneurship. From doing small jobwork for exporters to being a partner of DLF and buying vast tracts of land in Gurgaon and Rajasthan. Thum bharatwaasi with phati jeb kya muqabla karega ???? :) :)

    Arre Rahulji has no scion. The name of the dynasty must live on. Rahulji may never marry. Then Desh ka burden who will carry??

    Robertji !! Robertji …. err robbertji?

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  • Anonymous

    Zia’s lines
    The SIT has not only conducted the investigation in a partial, biased and callous manner, but it can also be reasonably be assumed that the SIT has only served to cover up the role played by the Chief Minister Narendra Modi.
    ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THIS PLANET EARTH , ZIA GOES TO THE KERMIT(jail)
    FOR CONTEMPT OF COURT.
    Infact anybody brings attention to supreme court , ZIA WILL BE IN TROUBLE.
    How about Vinay Katiyar arranging a TOUR OF THE CHARRED RAILWAY CARRIAGES IN GODHRA.
    If Modi said EVEN WITHIN FOUR WALLS that “Hindus should be allowed to vent their anger” THEN MODI GOES TO JAIL for INCITING RACIAL HATRED, but the problem is it is based on hearsay.
    ALSO MODI DID NOT START THE RIOT , THE HINDU GUJRATIS HATE THE MUSLIM GUJRATIS which is an uncomfortable truth , which nobody wants to face , THUS MODI IS THE SAFE TARGET.
    Gujrat IS IN POLE POSITION SO FAR RIOTS ARE CONCERNED FOR 500 YRS.
    Apparently their used to be riots in MUGHAL TIMES.
    PERHAPS ZIA NEEDS TO REFLECT THAT 100 HINDUS WERE KILLED IN THE RIOTS , MANY FROM POLICE FIRING

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  • Anonymous

    If you want to reinvestigate Modi, ask for it, but don’t use excuse of “justice”. This is because any investigation, no matter how just it is, if finds Modi non guilty, you are going to call it “injustice”.

    Besides, in your entire article, which is mostly emotional outburst (nothing wrong with it) is devoid of any logic explaining why SIT investigation is flawed. Moreover, for fairness sake, you should have asked to investigate your beloved prophet Sanjeev Bhatt as well, but you didn’t while SIT has produced enough convincing reasons which go against reliability of Sanjeev Bhatt.

    So how about this, next time you ask for justice, you look inside and ask yourself if you are truly neutral?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rajesh-Kumar/100002495478767 Rajesh Kumar

    I think the role of Teesta Setalvad, Mukul Sinha, Manoj Mitta and others should be investigated and re-investigated so that the victims can get justice.

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  • Anonymous

    Incredible it may appear MY COMMENTS LAST NIGHT HAS BEEN REMOVED, WELL LETS TRY AGAIN
    Zia’s lines
    “The SIT has not only conducted the investigation in a partial, biased and callous manner, but it can also be reasonably be assumed that the SIT has only served to cover up the role played by the Chief Minister Narendra Modi”
    In any other country THIS IS CONTEMPT OF COURT, iN FACT IF ANYONE INFORMS OR BRINGS TO THE ATTENTION OF SUPREME COURT ZIA WILL BE IN A BIG TROUBLE.
    If Narendra Modi said EVEN WITHIN FOUR WALLS “Hindus should be allowed to vent their anger” HE SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR INCITING RACIAL HATRED, the problem is it is only hearsay.
    Also how would Zia feel if Prravin Togadia arranges a tour of BURNT CARRIAGES in GODHRA.
    The fact is hindu gujratis hate muslim gujratis , and gujrat is in pole position in riots , and it has been for last 500 years .There used to be riots during Mughal Times.
    Just because the above truths are uncomfortable , so lets target modi , the soft and visible target.
    If Ehssan Jafri started firing THEN IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE WHETHER IT WAS SELF DEFENCE OR WHETHER HE BROUGHT ON HIMSELF.
    Also Zia would like to reflect 300HINDUS DIED IN THE RIOT MANY FROM POLICE FIRING

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7XVK6BRUJHTBJCDMA6YSIFBUBE Suresh BV Bharadwaj

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  • Abu Ahmed

    The problem here is about the totally amoral, unethical and inhuman attitude of the Hindus, especially of Gujarat. All over the world no sane society or person can condone people like Karadzic, Milosevic, Osama, Ariel Sharon etc. Then how come Narender Modi is receiving such blind support of the Hindus, many of whom are quite sane, normal and peace loing people? We all recognize that Godhra as an inhuman act right from its time of occurrence. How can Hindus be so unethical and amoral that they do not recognize Modi’s role later on as equally inhuman? A Raja or a Badsha in the feudal days can get away with it of course – but not in a democracy where a Constitution is regulating our lives.

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    EasyDestination Reply:

    What a joke.lol

    When World Trade Centre collapsed, people in Iran and Palestine came out on streets and celebrated it with sweets. When Osama died, parade was carried out in almost every single Muslim nation, in his honor.

    Even in Gujarat when train was burned in Godhra, firecrackers were burst in the muslim dominated areas of Ahmedabad. This is the finding of Nanavati Commission based on several eyewitnesses.

    Please tell me how can muslims be so pathetic that they celebrated when over 2000 people died in 9/11 attacks.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Umang-Choksi/100003795806659 Umang Choksi

    modi nu raj have nahi chale

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Umang-Choksi/100003795806659 Umang Choksi

    मोदी राज में गुजरात पर देवा हुआ हे

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rahul-Diora/100003820676933 Rahul Diora

    modi ne gujarat me 10 sal che gujarat ko ulu banateaya he

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rahul-Diora/100003820676933 Rahul Diora

    modi gujarat me bate kar ke gujarat ko nahi adani jeso ko malamal karata he

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    EasyDestination Reply:

    What you are saying makes sense because I was reading the other day that in the last 10 years, farmer’s income in Gujarat has gone up by 7 times. That’s Modi government making industrialists rich. Right?

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  • http://twitter.com/EasyDestination EasyDestination

    Investigation is not done to please certain section of the people. The purpose of the investigation is to find truth. Now its up to you to suck it. Just have the guds to say, I want investigation to continue till Modi is found guilty.

    The author seems to be idiot because SIT has said that there is no evidence of Modi instructing the police to let Hindus vent anger. The IPC amicus suggested to prosecute Modi are only appliable for making statement in public. This is exactly what SIT pointed out.

    Similarly in the case of Ehsaan Zafri, SIT never said that he should be blamed. You must understand that even an act of self defence can also provoke people.

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  • RajX

    What’s a thousand people being killed to a whole civilization being disfigured and millions killed as it happened when the invaders from the Islamic middle east and central Asia invaded our region? Looking at the big picture, this episode is nothing. Bigger and nastier events have taken place in India.

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  • http://twitter.com/EasyDestination EasyDestination

    Like Muslim countries are any better. In Pakistan, almost 30 Hindu women are forced to change their religion every month, or get raped. No action has been taken by the government. In Bangladesh, court justified mass rape of Hindu women after Babri Demolition. If Indian justic system was the same, not a single hindu would have been prosecuted for 2002 riots where in reality more than 150 have been prosecuted for killing more than 600 muslims.

    Even in Kashmir, muslims have killed almost 500,000 Hindu Pandits. Even UN and United States has called it, worst attack on community since WW2 Holocaust. Nobody has ever been punished. These muslims in Kashmir proudly showcase the houses of Pandits, they have forcefully taken from Pandits.

    So don’t brand it as Hindu justic system. At least Hindu justic system is better than Muslim justic system.

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  • http://twitter.com/EasyDestination EasyDestination

    This is perhaps the most pathetic justification for such a pathetic act by muslims. I am sure you have good reasons to justify 9/11, 26/11 and killings of over 500,000 Pandits in Kashmir.

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  • http://twitter.com/EasyDestination EasyDestination

    What do you expect from a newspaper lead by Vinod Sharma

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  • Fact

    Let alone SC or SIT, even if Allah himself pronounced Mr Modi innocent, this Zia Huq chap and pseudo secular lying lynch mob will not accept it. Only one verdict is acceptable to them i.e. that Mr Modi is guilty. But he is innocent and proven innocent. These partisan vested interests brigade should be ignored. Please carry on Mr Modi. The nation needs your services to pull it out of the mess created by Sonia’s corrupt government.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Ralph Schoenman, an author and commentator, argued, “With the collapse of the Soviet Union, the entire rationale for the hundreds of billions of dollars that are allocated to the Pentagon and to the military, which is the largest factor in the entire capitalist economy, had been removed.”
    “US imperialism, which is the primary sponsor of the Israeli state, incorporated that notion of the necessity to demonize Islam and to create a rationale for permanent war in the region, and adapted it as the whole rationale for US capitalism and imperialism itself in its military projects,” the analyst pointed out.
    “It’s the entire … rationale for imperialism; for perpetual war on the peoples of the region; to seize their oil; to destroy their sovereignty; to break up the nations into ethnic and religious components,” Schoenman added.

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @Abu Muslims are fanatically convinced of some ethereal divine morals of Islam ( !) and obsessed with the total impotence of Islamic nations.
    That is why drivers and samosa vendor’s sons with pathetic levels of education feel obliged to bring back the “glory of Islamic power”. They operate as worms and white ants hiding behind masks and women and attempt to inflict pain.
    The Muslims of the world would do a great favour to all humanity if they could raise an army worth it salt and give the clarion call for the “Nizam-e-Mustafa”. They would be handed a fitting reply.
    Thanks to the internet and easy availability of translations of the Koran and Hadiths, the death knell of Islam as a moral force does not appear to be too far away.

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  • http://twitter.com/EasyDestination EasyDestination

    Apparently you don’t watch news. This is the report of Minorty commission in Pakistan that Hindu women are being forced to chance religion in several parts of the country. They have put forward the figure, 30 women per month are either raped for forced to change religion.

    In India, thousands are forced to change by Christians and muslims. Read some literature on VHP (if you know how to read). How this organization came to existence. It was forced conversion in punjab followed by Madhya Pradesh, later in the South that created VHP.

    It has strong base in rural India because it is protecting hindus from being converted.

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