Peepli Live from Jantar Mantar



Why am I not so impressed with the hoopla surrounding Anna Hazare and his fast unto death at Jantar Mantar in New Delhi?

May be because I have seen too many of these too many times before — and also sat in on how successive Maharashtra governments have conned this rather innocent man into a series of compromises from which, each time, he took that much longer to recover.

Although the Shiv Sena is on his side now, I remember a time when Bal Thackeray called Anna Hazare a ‘crackpot’ and refused to have anything to do with him. That’s because Thackeray was taken aback when Anna switched attention to the Sena-BJP government in the late Nineties after having taken on the Congress in the earlier regime. Thackeray was miffed that someone he considered a friend should have so clearly turned a foe by targeting his own ministers’ corruption in government, quite failing to recognise the neutrality of Hazare’s positions. Anna subsequently lost a case of defamation brought against him by one of the ministers named by him and was even thrown into jail. But a hasty commutation by then Chief Minister Manohar Joshi had him out within a day.

I was following Anna closely in those days and I was startled when, despite all this, he changed his mind about Thackeray again after friends and well-wishers of both arranged a meeting between him and the Sena supremo. That’s when I discovered how impressionable he was and was both charmed by and apprehensive of Anna’s propensity to see things only in black and white as well as his inability to grasp the complexity of situations and the shades of grey in every issue.

Not surprisingly, the BJP, which was an ally of the Sena in government, also cottoned on to this and one day decided to use it – no, not against either the Sena or the Congress, but against one of their own.

I was present again at the press conference announced so excitedly by Anna Hazare in Pune who told us he would be ‘exploding a bomb’ about a senior minister in the government. That minister was Gopinath Munde who held the Home department and was also the state’s Deputy Chief Minister. Under the circumstances, the explosion was a damp squib and it was soon apparent to even Anna Hazare how he had been had.

There was a certain upper caste lobby in the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh in the state who, quite frankly, detested Munde, an OBC, for having got where he had, all under his own steam. Most of us by then knew, unofficially, about his liaison with one of the state’s most beautiful tamasha dancers called Barkha by whom he had also had a son. The Maharashtra government then had a scheme which we called “the ten per cent quota”. Not to do with money but the allotment of flats. Every builder had to transfer ten per cent of the apartments he built in every building to the government which the government then gave at concessional rates to impoverished artistes, writers, journalists, backward classes, handicapped, scheduled castes and tribes, retired defence personnel, et al.

Munde had quite legitimately, as it turned out, allotted one such flat in Pune to his paramour/second wife, duly paid for by her own funds. Anna had been misled by this upper caster lobby into believing he was exposing a property scam. But all that that expose did was to establish a clear link between Munde and his Barkha. Earlier, his liaison was in the realm of gossip and spoken of in hushed tones. Now there were papers to prove that Barkha had taken a flat under the name ‘Barkha Gopinath Munde’ (after which Bal Thackeray famously advised Munde, “Pyaar kiya toh darna kya!”). The expose enraged Munde and Barkha was forced to overwrite all her documents to make them read ‘Barkha Gopinath Patil’ to stop people from drawing inferences.

Munde, though, lived down the scandal. But not so Anna. He felt humiliated at having been so misled. That’s why, I believe, he is now throwing out people like Uma Bharti from his dais (though Bharti now is not officially the BJP). But his rather harsh, “Kon RSS? Kon BJP? Kon Congress? (Who is the RSS? Who is the BJP? Who is the Congress?)” was a stern warning to politicians of all hues not to hijack his forum again and believe they can once again con him into compromising his position.

But it is not the BJP (whose Lokpal bill of 2002 has been copied in toto by the current government with little application of mind) or even the Congress which is Anna’s problem. Rather it is the Nationalist Congress Party whose ministers have now gone ballistic against this simple-minded Gandhian. I must admit I was startled when Sharad Pawar threw in the towel so early because that is not how the Maratha warlord usually meets such issues. But now I have a glimmer of the reason why. And these things could not have been happening without Pawar’s express sanction and blessings. So, I believe, Pawar resigned from the committee of the group of ministers on corruption not because he was stung by Anna’s allegations against him but to orchestrate the collapse of his latest road show, for which he would necessarily have to operate from behind the scenes. If Anna believes otherwise or even that he has had Pawar’s scalp, then the Maratha warlord is dangerously close to succeeding.

Just look at how Pawar operates: Sureshdada Jain, who was earlier a NCP minister in Maharashtra and now is a Shiv Sena MLA after an estrangement with Pawar, has been singing the Maratha warlord’s praises for the last two days, calling him a ’sensitive’ politician (when he always thought of Pawar as bullheaded before). But more significant is that Jain has also simultaneously chosen to revive memories of a scam in Anna Hazare’s own Hind Swaraj Trust.

Jain was earlier stung by Anna’s charges against him and brought forth his own – that Anna had misappropriated funds from the HST which had received a Rs 2 crore grant from the Maharashtra government. A judicial enquiry subsequently led Justice P B Sawant to conclude that there had indeed been misappropriation of Rs 2 lakh from the trust ‘amounting to corruption’ – to celebrate Anna’s birthday in his village of Ralegaon-Siddhi. The difference between the politicians and Anna Hazare was that Hazare admitted to the misappropriation – and now Justice Sawant is supporting his agitation against corruption. “What I probed was certainly a case of corruption. But Hazare accepted that it was a mistake so he can certainly go ahead with the agitation,” Justice Sawant has told the Hindustan Times’ reporter, Yogesh Joshi, in Pune.

But Jain and other ministers who were indicted by the same judge and commission which probed Hazare are not so ready to let bygones be bygones. “My fight with Hazare will continue. I, too, can make allegations against him. He must withdraw from this fight.” Jain chose the serious forum of the Maharashtra Assembly to make those statements.

Nawab Malik, another NCP minister who had to bite the dust along with Jain, did not use the Assembly to make his statements but reiterated,”There was corruption in Anna Hazare’s trust. But no one wants to talk about that.”

Malik believes Anna is being misled by ‘right wing forces’ but I think that is not quite right, either. Rather, I believe, Anna is hamstrung by his own image (please read this piece by Manu Joseph in Open magazine which captures the essence of this real-life Peepli Live) and that people who would not get a look-in otherwise are once again using Hazare as a front to succeed in their own primary agenda which is not just about fighting corruption.

I would not agree with every last conclusion made in his piece by Joseph, a former colleague, who can sometimes be liberal and at other times hurtful (as I have told him before) with his interpretations of the truth. I simply do not agree that Anna is obsolete or that he is deliberately imitating Mahatma Gandhi and his tilt of head in a studied fashion. But Joseph’s piece is relevant to the extent it captures what the cameras do not – though I would not go so far as to call it a farce either. As someone else said before me, it just gives me a feeling of life imitating art, suspiciously like Peepli Live played out now at Jantar Mantar.

As I write this, there are unconfirmed reports that a couple of Maharashtra bureaucrats who have dealt with and calmed Anna down before have been dispatched to New Delhi to work the levers again and put an end to the show as early as possible. By past experience, I believe, Anna too knows the government cannot allow him to wither away and sooner or later will come out with a package that seems to meet most of his conditions without giving away too much, either. Therein lies the danger and I am not sure even the activists rallying round him will able to spot the manoeuvre. Even as, as in the past, Anna allows all the adulation go to his head and fails to see the stumbling block in the process, allowing the allegations against him to gather steam that will surely compromise his next agitation which might not start off the ground without a little bit of a hobble.

Meanwhile, here’s a brilliant piece, a satire, by Smita Prakash.

This, at least, should bring a smile to everyone’s face.

Happy reading.

1 Star2 Stars3 Stars4 Stars5 Stars (33 votes, average: 2.64 out of 5)
Loading ... Loading ...
  • Ganesh S

    I am in full agreement with you on the Maharashtra – centric view you have taken,largely about Anna Hazare.What is now happening in Delhi is a classic case of a visionary on whose back people with their own agendas are piggy back riding.But that only applies to a few.The manner in which people of India have connected to this movement has rendered every question irrelevant – who is he,what has he done,what has he achieved,what are his bona fides on this issue etc etc.

    Politicians in Maharashtra cutting across ALL the parties there are some of the most narrow minded and corrupt lot – Pawar being the kingpin.They have been successfully fooling this man and have always tried to manipulate him.

    Seeing things in black and white is what makes Anna Hazare and his anti corruption movement unique.Both Anna Hazare and corruption MUST be seen in black and white.Anna Hazare now belongs to India.He is no longer a mere social worker or a crusader from Ralegaon Sidhi.He is now the SOUL OF INDIA and is all set to be the VOICE OF INDIA.

    I am reminded of a movie many years back in which Amitabh Bachchan similarly graduates from being a MAN to become a MOVEMENT all due to AAM AADMI identifying himself or herself with it.

    Having said all this,it is now the responsibility of the so-called CIVIL SOCIETY members – the sensible ones among them – non political,those not blindly and rabidly anti development and those willing to help strengthen the system instead of continuously writing or predicting its premature obituary -to come in the forefront and help this sincere,visionary and selfless crusader to transform system.As Anna Hazare himeself said – he is NOT anti government he is anti – what system has become today.

    Corruption cannot be eliminated merely by LEGAL bills.It needs a MORAL movement.Anna Hazare gives us that MORAL focus.

    By the way,those Indians who always take pride in self flagellation and cynically predicting that Indians come together only for a cricket match or when country is at war – have been proved wrong.

    As I say this,I am also proud of the manner in which this government showed sensitivity and gave that space and power.Not that it had any other option.But for a government to openly give that space and voice is not easy.What would be interesting to see how those suggestions in the Jan Lok Pal Bill draft of Anna Hazare wherein even Supreme Court is sought to be rendered secondary is administering JUSTICE on issue of corruption will be dealt with.What would be most interesting when the FINAL bill draft is tabled in the parliament and then is subjected to the ultimate scrutiny in the country’s legal system.

    Making a romantic point and getting all to sing HUM HONGE KAAMYAAB is the easier part of it.The REAL VICTORY is when JAN LOK PAL BILL emerges unscathed from political agendas and legal stands.

    This is as much a test for the so called civil society as it is is for the political class and legal system.
    Civil society should realise that country has backed them on this issue because it affects every Indian and the problem is all pervasive.CIVIL SOCIETY WOULD BE WELL ADVISED NOT TO READ THIS SUCCESS AS ANY VINDICATION ON THEIR OTHER RIGIDITIES ( LIKE THEIR PRO NAXAL STANDS) or ANTI DEVELOPMENT OBSESSIONS.Let us not forget one Ms Arundhati Roy is a member of the SAME group alongwith her friend Swami Agnivesh.

    I am sure Anna Hazare is aware of all this.If he detests politicians then he should also be clear about the agendas of such people too.He need not fear.People of India are enough to carry out his vision.But for that he should not let his movement be hijacked.

    Another pleasant surprise has been,apart from the sensitivity shown by the government,the restraint shown by BJP.I am sure the party is taken aback by the fact that while Congress faces its own credibility crisis on the issue of corruption,by not allowing BJP leaders too to be present,Anna Hazare has reminded BJP too that it also needs to take care of its own Yeddis and not behave like an ostrich.

    Politically speaking,unwittingly,Anna Hazare has delivered a blow against Pawar which will surely help Congress.That is however besides the point.

    While I have blown my candle off tonight after my return from India Gate,I am keeping it safe to be lit again,if necessary because,the battle against corruption has just begun.

    [Reply]

    Mukund S Reply:

    As you correctly point out Civic society needs to stay apolitical. Also, they should try to include person of Mr. Narayan Murthy’s stature who believes that education is a governance problem or Mr. Azim Premji who is actually doing something about education on his own and is equally concerned about governance in a five member team.

    [Reply]

    Dr. P.K. Jha Reply:

    Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi introduced a number of silly practices in India – a threat of fast unto death is one of them. People like Anna Hazare are basically driven by a desire to gain attention.

    Nobody can deny the need to counter corruption, but the problem is not as simple as Anna and his supporters are trying to project. For example, Anna wants a corrption case to be concluded within a year or two. Even with hisbest intentions, a judge worth his salt will not be able to make that kind of commitment, for the benefit of doubt always goes to the accused. The criminal lawyers are so cunning that they will easily find ways and means to linger a criminal case. For every Laloo Prasad Yadav, there exists a Ram Jethmalani.

    The demand of including members from the civil society in the top body may sound great, but the idea has little merit. How are you going to select such members? How do you know that they won’t yield to the temptations?

    [Reply]

    Rajeev Reply:

    “Why am I not so impressed with the hoopla surrounding Anna Hazare and his fast unto death at Jantar Mantar in New Delhi?”

    Because Anna can not pay her the way congress pays her.

    [Reply]

    Anil Bonde Reply:

    Hi Sujatha,
    In your another backdated (but recently) blog you written that Sharad Pawar was the man behind the leak of Barkha Gopinath Munde information. which one is right that one or as per this blog, some RSS brahmin activists.

    Raj Reply:

    I think after reAding both blogs it’s quite clear isn’t it – Pawar provided documents about the son, Rss provided documents about the second wife. As I always suspected Pawar works hand in glove with the communal forces when it suits him!

    Satish Haldankar Reply:

    The politicians across party lines have formed an exclusive club. Their motto – you scratch my back, i will scratch yours. Ideology and policies are all secondary issues.

    Perhaps, Sharad Pawar has the best networking/contacts with the politicians of all hues all across the country.

    Sujata Anandan Reply:

    Abs right!

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Mixed breeds get mixed up with breeding (of leaks and likes).

    Al Reply:

    Your remarks are quite offensive. You are a disgrace to Bantwal.

    Sujata Anandan Reply:

    I think both the blogs make it quite clear: it was Sharad Pawar who first let the cat out of the bag, but there was nothing to write about it for it was in the realm of the personal. The RSS lobby provided us with some documentation that made it possible to say Anna hazare had got his facts wrong, while allowing us to then make the connection in black and white between Munde and his paramour.

    Sujata Anandan Reply:

    You are right. Have posted to links above in reply to Ganesh. They make the same points as you do.

    [Reply]

    MSR Ayyangar Reply:

    Very very well said ..!

    [Reply]

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Wonder of wonders! The side-kick has turned on the “master” and delivered a front kick to the crotch!!

    [Reply]

    Ganesh S Reply:

    Ha ha I was waiting for this Mr Pseudo civilised.

    We in Congress have THE GUTS.You in meanwhile instead of kicking keep LICKING.

    Happy Licking !!!!

    [Reply]

    Kishan Reply:

    Sujata, your stories are sure spicy but are meant for people of below average intelligence. They may enjoy them, but there is no substance.May be it is beyond you to have any substance. But you have many friends like Pawar who provide sustenance to you.

    Satish Haldankar Reply:

    What you say may be true. However, from your response it is very apparent that your own level of intelligence is even below average intelligence. Isn’t is it obvious? You have not understood a thing in the blog, hence your comment above.If you had, then probably you would debated / contested the points raised by her.

    Sujata Anandan Reply:

    If my stories are meant for people below average intelligence, then I am surprised you still are reading and commenting — so are you, too, like the people below average intelligence?

    Sujata Anandan Reply:

    Hey Ganesh,

    What an impassioned note.

    However, I am not so sure of supporting the Lok pal bill as the activists propose. You cannot concentrate so much unbridled power in the hands of one institution that has no accountability or responsibility to any one but oneself — power corrupts and abs power corrupts absolutely. There have to be checks and balances. Read Tavleen Singh in Sunday Indian Express http://bit.ly/fWma3S and you’ll know what I mean.

    Here’s another brilliant analysis : http://bit.ly/gRqf6o

    Its a point of view that I believe both the Congress and the BJP agree with.

    [Reply]

  • rav

    Did Hazare become broker of cartel like Mahata gandhi for Angrez

    Was this a pre-planned sellout? because double-faced broker of bjp-congress like Kiran Bedi were involved.

    something new will arrive for REVOLUTION

    Hope people can clearly see the looters or loot promoters acting as FRIENDS, SAINTS, INNOCENTS and India need you for long in this fight against looters.
    1. where is the direct election of PM and CM by people(lok)???
    2. Where is the direct impeachment power to people(lok) for voting out (forever) the one/many they voted to power once they become corrupt ??
    3. And more.
    wrong directions are taken in bad company like kiran bedi and one agrees to talk with agents of evil like kapil sibal, MMS, sonia, etc. Some said rightly, bjp and congress both should end. what we need is full scale REVOLUTION.

    [Reply]

  • Girish Shenoy

    By concentrating on Anna Hazare, you miss the bigger picture. The fact that is really troubling the government is the mass support from cross country. Anna Hazare’s fast is just a vehicle for expressing the frustration. It needs to be clear to the government by now that the frustration can boil very fast unless some action is taken by the government. If Anna Hazare’s fast wakes the government from the slumber, I would consider that the fast was successful irrespective of the final outcome. I don’t care what happened in Maharastra in the past and who played whom. All I care now is that the public money lost due to corruption is mind boggling and the government needs to be shown that the politicians are enjoying the power and perks at the cost of comman man who is currently suffering.

    [Reply]

  • Rakesh

    Anti corruption wave is blowing.Lets support the country in pinning this evil down without going into
    too much ifs and buts and reading inbetween the lines.Lets be positive and support the movement
    so that the monies belonging to the poor reach them for their betterment and not reach the Swiss bank.
    You are an intelligent writer.But lets not kill the main focus which is anti corruption and not Anna Hazare,he is a medium.The support of the nation is for the anti corruption and not for Anna
    Hazare.Please dont kill this movement support this.

    Brisbane/Auckland

    [Reply]

    Sid Reply:

    Even Chambal based dacoits turned new leaves to become part of Civic society. Hazare does NOT become an untouchable, just because he has done some mistakes in the past. We all saw on TV, his frugal lifestyle, he is leading in his Ashram at Maharashtra. If we are only looking for guardian angels to descend down from Heaven to save us, then we will have to wait till eternity. When will Indian journalists get over their obsession with Caste politics? Bihar has shown that good guy like Nitish can surpass all those mental barriers! Get over it Sujatha!

    [Reply]

  • Anjana

    Why am I not so impressed with the hoopla surrounding Anna Hazare and his fast unto death at Jantar Mantar in New Delhi?

    My answer i because you are a HT journo, that includes Vir, Karan; all Oage 3 type

    [Reply]

  • Ankit

    I am so glad Sujata Anandan is not impressed by this agitation. If a person who is “proud to be on the same side of Vir Sanghvi”, and who thinks Ahmed Patel and Kripashankar Singh are paragons of virtue, is not impressed by a cause the cause must be good!

    [Reply]

    Raj Reply:

    But Mr Vir Sanghvi himself seems to be impressed by the anna hazare agitation

    [Reply]

  • Saarthak

    Of course Sujata won’t be impressed by Anna Hazare’s movement. Its success will only leave the corrupt politician’s coffers empty, and they would have nothing to pay to the journalists on their payroll

    [Reply]

  • http://none vijay

    I don’t agree with your opinion. I think your biased

    [Reply]

  • Din

    Anna is aclever polititian. He got publicity. Shed some weight on the advice of his doctrs. As Indians we dont mind corruption so long it gets work done.Lokpal is a blank.

    [Reply]

  • ala

    Congress is the winner and BJP is the loser in this drama Many wanted Anna to die of hunger and weakness so that they can create anarchy and throw the nation into darkness. Thanks to Agnivesh and Bedi, this did not happen. They never thought it will be over so soon.

    [Reply]

    Sujata Anandan Reply:

    I guess you are one of those rare observers who got it right and has hit the nail on the head. The entire hoopla makes me suspect who manipulated whom — Congress, on the one hand can now show down corrupt allies on the basis of this civil society demo, on the other has emerged smelling of roses by supposedly showing sensitivity to teh issue but has actually given nothing away. It would do to recall the fast unto death by the TRS’s Chandrashehhar for a separate Telangana. What happened after that?

    [Reply]

  • http://www.msrayyangar.com MSR Ayyangar

    The cause of corruption is actually a lack of “self-esteem”. Also an impoverished state of mind, or acute mental poverty! A feeling of inner emptiness coupled with gross ignorance about the right way to fill it up. It actually is the result of loss of “shamelessness” … which is so necessary for decent conduct and dignified demeanor. When a person is prepared to enjoy walking absolutely naked in the streets – you can hardly threaten him with any consequences – short of cruel punishment.

    [Reply]

  • Rahul

    No Matter How Bad and Corrupted Congress Become HT will always HIT ON BJP,RSS.

    [Reply]

  • Al

    You are one of the very few people to analyse the whole issue rationally. As suggested by Mr. Kumar Ketkar on Karan Thapar’s program, timing and spontaneity of this episode are suspect.

    [Reply]

    Ganesh S Reply:

    Real victory of the people.Full marks to the government too for issuing a Gazette Notification ON ITS OWN even when Anna Hazare was willing to end the fast on only an official letter.

    Hope this sensitivity to what people of India want and need and deserve is here to last.

    Hope civil society too realises now that it is one thing to propagate theories remaining OUTSIDE the system and another thing to STRENGTHEN the system.Here is an opportunity alongwith Government, civil society too is under test.

    Jai Ho

    [Reply]

    Kunal Reply:

    lol @ analysing the subject rationaly :-)

    you should become a stand up comedian mate.

    [Reply]

    Al Reply:

    Well, finally the cat is out of the bag. This evening in a press conference Mr Hazare parised Mr Narendra Modi and asked all other chief ministers to emulate him!!

    [Reply]

    Sujata Anandan Reply:

    Hazare is now backtracking from that. But I agree with Kumar Ketkar — who is another Maharashtra journalist and therefore knows why the timing and the spontaneity should be suspect. No everything can be put into black and white or spoken about openly, you know.

  • Arvind

    You might havewritten all these and might have experienced it, but you have not made any refrence to this agitation being different from the past one.tell me…
    How many times Anna got the support of such a huge populationa across India and Globe
    This time the scenario is totally different. Instead of doing critical analysis or terming it Peepli Live, you must admit that Indian people has got a start somewhere.. This is the first step. Fighting corruption in India is not so easy but you must admit that instead of writing in AC’s comfort, Anna has come out in open to fight the menace. People like you do nothing more than writing and critical analysis. People like you are dampener of the people’s spirit and I have a feeling that all these cynics are playing in the hands of corrupt politicinas and bereaucrats….Stop misleading the people and masses

    [Reply]

  • Alok

    At the outset: I disagree with most of your conclusions. What is your point? Re-articulating a problem is no +ve contribution, ma’am. Rise a step up in life and offer solutions. My god, how cynical have we become, where we ourselves will do nothing, not act but anybody who does act and galvanize we will use arguments, technicalities, past failures (if any) to prove why this thing will not succeed. Ms. writer, can you be a little more optimistic in life? Are you saying that Anna will not success, so we should learn to watch the country continue its slide to a business-politician oligopoly? You have not offered any alternate view of what should be done. I personally feel that Anna is this century’s Gandhi. And as Gandhi took 20+ years to perfect his technique in SA, I hope Anna also continues to unite this country for a change, rather than divide. You blog is all negative and talks about divisions. Corruption is BLACK or WHITE. There is No grey in this. Its simple – you are either honest or you are corrupt. You all better GET IT, instead of continuing to act like the argumentative Indian and instead of acting or supporting action. In some ways I see a camp of journos who seem to be currying favor with the same political masters who this country wants to fight against.

    [Reply]

    Sujata Anandan Reply:

    Business-politician oligopoly as you say it. We have been talking only of politicians being corrupt.But do you know where the corruption comes from — and it is more in the liberlaisation era than during licence-permit raj. Unless businessmen are stopped from bribing their way through government policy this will not stop. Despite the Lokpal they will fuind unique means to buy their way through circumvention of the institution. They have the money, so the politicians have the money. if they stop paying, government will start working more effectively.

    [Reply]

    Vimal Kumar Reply:

    Really??? Are we living in Satyug?? So going by logic, govt should also disband the police as people should be responsible enough not to commit crime. Yes, despite the lokpal bill they will find something, but lokpal will also find more of these corrupt netas and babus than the present system.

    [Reply]

  • Onkar S Ahluwalia

    Anna Hazare has created a history , with out much upheaval and bloodshed
    Its a great victory for badly needed remorms !
    A big step in the right direction
    India can hope, the political systems to improve not only in the centre but also in the states.
    India wiil soon experience multiplied positive effect .
    There will be more more motivation in Aam admi, there will be more Modi’s & more Nitesh & the Growth will jump over 10% soon -

    I personally thank & congratulate Mr Anna Hazare & his team for this success of their movement .
    A corruption Free India will make Indians & NRI’S proud,again !

    [Reply]

  • Shshank

    Hi Sujata,
    I am with this movement but also know that such fights take decades to come to a favorable end. It took Gandhiji about three decades to drive out foreign rule. Gandhiji was not a perfect human being and had some eccentric habits and mannerisms. If he had lived today, the press and chatterati would have had a fields day discussing about his personality. Despite all this we know he was a man with impeccable integrity and a firm belief in his principles. He got us independence. Yes, Anna may have some shortcomings but he has given us confidence in ourselves and the fact that we have power over the political system. It is this fuel that will carry on the citizenry of this country in our fight against corruption, even though it may take years.
    Do not leave hope, the fight has just begun.
    - Shshank

    [Reply]

    Sujata Anandan Reply:

    You are right. But I am afraid the best men may not win this fight!

    [Reply]

  • http://- Rajeev

    Sujata’s paymaster Pawar sent NCP goondas to attack Anupam Kher. This is the kind of democracy Congress and its allies want.

    [Reply]

    Kunal Reply:

    When the whole country is frustrated about corruption and is rallying behind Anna Hazare, all Sujata Anandan finds to post on her blog is a satire about the whole episode.

    What are we supposed to do….read it and laugh or cry about having such desh drohis in our midst ?

    [Reply]

    Raj Reply:

    Get your facts right – they were RPI workers, not NCP men

    [Reply]

    Satish Haldankar Reply:

    Asking these people to check facts is like asking for the moon. These RSS/BJP trolls have always attempted to thrive on falsehoods, lies and untruths.

    [Reply]

  • http://techcentral.in Kunal

    Typical Sujata Anandan blog. Instead of concentrating on the current topic – go and research and find some anti-Hazare episode and try criticising the current anti-corruption movement. Congress pays extra to bloggers like Sujata in such times. That’s why she was missing for the past few days.

    Whatever she has written is true and it has happened but why rake up events of the past related to Maharashtra politics.

    And then she calls the commentators as trolls and argues that she isn’t biased.

    [Reply]

  • http://techcentral.in Kunal

    satish saheb…looks like you are in line to start receiving your weekly paycheck from the Congress party.

    If you think you know more than Anna Hazare or his advisers, why don’t you go to Jantar Mantar yourself and advise Annaji.

    [Reply]

    Ganesh S Reply:

    Same silly litany again and again about Ms Sujatha or anyone who supports her blogs receiving MONEY.These knickerwallahs dont seem think beyond people receiving money to write ?

    First,they dont understand what is written.Then they attack and abuse those who who write.

    Kunalji,we all KNOW Anna Hazare and his background which is impeccable to provide moral leadership.

    We also know Mr Arvind Kejdiwal who led the campaign for RTI.

    We also know Swami Agnivesh who has picked up the cause of Naxalites after working for abolition of bonded labourers for decades.

    By the way,we also know one Ms Arundhati Roy.We also know Baba Ramdev who tried his level best to steal the limelight by talking of the same stale point of FOREIGN ORIGIN.

    By the way your Hridaysamrat Narendrabhai Modi is yet to appoint a Lok Ayukta in Gujarat !!

    Today Nitinji Gadkari says Yeddiurappa’s corruption is ONLY PERCEPTION – nothing else !!!

    We will ensure our Congress party is reformed and made strong.We will ensure Anna Hazare’s platform against corruption is NOT hijacked by anyone.

    Will you ensure your party – the party with a difference – also goes through its own introspection ?

    When will you knickerwallah blokes realise that while Congress is waging a battle to clean itself,you blokes have not yet begun !!!

    Instead of worrying about others’ paychecks worry more about your own party.The tsunami called Anna Hazare will not spare anyone.

    [Reply]

    Ganesh S Reply:

    By the way,please also read today how Mr Bal Thackeray,your great friend and ally in Maharashtra has attacked Hazare.

    Then maybe your eyes will open WIDE and see things beyond PAYCHECKS.

    [Reply]

    shikha Reply:

    Contd -
    Youthful ideas and not young age is what is important. If Rahul can change the tide , he is assured of my vote. And I shall be more than happy that our country has finally been gifted with a leader who can make the change. Let me him come forward and make sweeping electoral and admin reforms. Remember, all these changes need trimming of govt powers. Is Rahul prepared to trim his own powers ??

    Ganesh S Reply:

    Shikhaji,

    Politics is more about INTENT rather than abilities.We have numerous examples of ABLE chief ministers who also have been corrupt.

    While I agree with you that the prevailing environment is one of sycophancy,I would doubt if someone getting better grades or being a graduate has anything to do with his INTENT.

    More important is to understand the grassroots.People identify with Anna because of his INTENT.

    I find it strange that you find only Congress guilty of manipulating governors in States or appointing irrelevant people as Governors.

    One example : Atalji appointed a socialite from Nagpur as LtGovernor of Pondicherry and apart from being a socialite what was her other qualification? Well,Atalji always stayed with her and her family whenever he visited Nagpur.

    The point is dont just blame only Congress.It is our rotten system.All parties have added to the stink.Congress shoulders maximum blame because it has been in power most of the time.

    Whenever we voted others,did they again come back ?

    Rahul is on the right path.So far. Let us see.Let him come through the elections route.I dont think today s India will vote for him because he is Sonia’s son.He will get vote only if he MAKES SENSE.

    Now if those like us who support his views are accused of promoting dynastic rule then that does not make sense.

    Zameendari mindset will go once system is reformed.

    I thank you for at least having a dialogue and I also thank you for NOT accusing me of taking paychecks or being this or being that just because by and large,I support Congress and am aware where it is strong and where it needs to be strengthened further.

    Kunal Reply:

    If you read your post again, you will know the problem. You have assumed that I am a Shiv Sena – BJP supporter just because I come here and criticise Sujatha’s writing. No wonder you are a fan of Sujatha’s blog. If you life the veil of Congress vs BJP and look at her writings in a totally independent way you will realise how biased she is.

    And FYI, you will find me even on a BJP biased blog criticising the author. You are the one who seems to be brainwashed not me.

    Btw on the topic of Congress, where was your youth leader Rahul Gandhi ? Hiding again is he ?

    When the whole country is united against corruption, people like you and Sujatha are only interested in partisan politics and which party comes out winners in the next election. Now there lies your problem.

    [Reply]

    Ganesh S Reply:

    Shikhaji,

    Instead of ridiculing columnists like Ms Sujatha, why dont you read what she says carefully?

    When has she supported Congress BLINDLY ?At the same time,there are many things positive about Congress as there are positive things about BJP too.One has to sing bhajans continuously in favour of BJP and abuse Congress continuously in order to get a certificate of objectivity ?

    This 24×7 rant about Gandhi family is so meaningless and irrelevant.Sonia on her own and Rahul on his own go about their work as much as any other politician in the country does.But the ill conceived hatred for this family runs so deep that time and again in spite of their proving their bona fides at the elections,these rants go on and on and on.Let them go on.All have a right to opinion – and that includes Ms Sujatha.

    Do you realise,how viciously anyone who supports her is attacked? You have only to read what they write.She is accused of being on politicians’ payroll repeatedly.Those who agree with her are called abusive names.

    Anna Hazare belongs to people of India.We shall ensure his vision succeeds.Fight against corruption is no one’s monopoly.This UPA government is accountable to people of India on one important point – why has governance become so weak that all kinds of scams happen.They have half their term to win back the confidence of Indians.If they dont,(and this is a Congress supporter talking)they will lose my vote.

    We in Congress are never BLIND to our faults and weaknesses.We keep getting hammered and correct ourselves.What about BJP and its endless CHINTAN BAITHAKS.

    Why no one in these columns ever talks about Yeddi’s Karnataka?Why not about Shivraj Chauhan in MP giving away prime land to Khushabhau Thakre Foundation?Incidentally does anyone know how simple Khushabhau Thakre was?Whatever his beliefs were,he led a most simple life.And all this in HIS name?

    Congress must be put on block.Must be asked questions.That nauseating question about Sonia’s foreign origin must stop.

    The big point here is dont attack journalists selectively.They have a right of opinion.Flaunt your opinions strongly.Dont abuse.

    Anna Hazare now belongs to people of India.BJP has done well to announce its support to the Bill.Should we say they did it because they had no other ioption?No I am not that cynical. They have done it out of their concern for India. With Congress driving the jointly drafted Bill and BJP committed to it,who cares if some small politicians from small parties protest.

    You have to be from Maharashtra and in Maharashtra to understand how this simple man Anna has always been taken for a ride by the politicians there.We the people of India need to ensure this does not happen.

    There are still some who believe that all this will lead to nothing.Let us respect their views and go on doing what we feel is right – for India.

    Jai Hind

    Satish Haldankar Reply:

    Kunal

    From your response, which at best can be termed idiotic, it is quite clear that my posts are not meant to be read and understood by the likes of you (as S Ganesh has pointed out in the earlier blog). First you need to grow up, then perhaps.

    Paycheck! Know more than Anna Hazare and his advisers!

    Which other old accusations you wish to hurl at me? If you have, do not think even once, go ahead and be my guest.

    [Reply]

    Kunal Reply:

    lol….i was actually thinking that this blog itself is only meant to be read by idiots like you. Time is too precious to read biased blogs like that of Sujatha’s and come and argue with lunatics like you who think they can rationally analyse the situation.

    I have seen your comments elsewhere, you are no better than the other HT Congress stooges, that’s why i called u a member of the paycheck family.

    I am better off reading other things than the ridiculous views which come out of Sujatha, Ganesh and your mouths.

    [Reply]

    Ganesh S Reply:

    Kunalji,

    We are idiots.We are lunatics.We survive on paychecks of Congress.We are stooges.Our views are ridiculous.

    All together adds up to FRUSTRATION and the best place to vent it out is somewhere else.

    You and your party believe your are SOLE thekedars of patriotism and purity and probity in politics.You are intolerant of anyone having different views.

    Dont waste your time with your absurdities and abuses.No one is impressed.If you have any logic or counterpoint say it.

    In fact,dont change please and remain the way are.It really suits us!!

    You are frustrated because someone has STOLEN your platform.

    We will take all our anti corruption preachings from Anna Hazare. Not from your party,surely.

    [Reply]

    Satish Haldankar Reply:

    Kunal

    Now you are getting the point I was making. This blog and my comments are meant for Idiots and lunatics like me. You still have to grow up and become one.

    “You have seen enough of my comments elsewhere”. So. Is it a crime to post comments elsewhere? Is it a crime to receive paychecks? Is it a crime to be an HT stooge? If so, please quote the relevant Indian laws and clauses in support of your contentions.

    You better off reading other things! The ground reality is you are worse off because you choose to read ridiculous views which come out of the mouths of Sujata, Ganesh, myself and others. What makes you the worst, is that actually post irrelevant rants against the likes of us.

    As I said, first please grow up and become an idiot and a lunatic, then hopefully you will know what is going on around you.

    [Reply]

  • shikha

    Sujatha,
    We know what your blog priorities are.Anything that hurts Gandhi family is your enemy. You know what.. if tomorrow someone close to Gandhi family physically abuses me, you shall do everthing to cover up..including casting aspersions on my character. That is why I cannot rely upon you as a media watchdog. I am somewhat glad that you wrote this blog. It tells me that Hazare’s movement won and you were threatened. And besides whining what alternative solution have you provided in your career.??
    I urge everyone here to keep national interests above political affiliations. Be willing to cross party lines and choose the govt based upon its performance. Throw away dynasty politics. Support govt based upon meritocracy.
    Jai Hind!!

    [Reply]

    Raj Reply:

    And what about your own political affiliations, Shikha? I don’t know what Sujata might say about this but your language is only marginally better than that of the saffron trolls who hog the limelight on this and other blogs under masked identities and are a great example of the shuchita and samrastra that the BJP talks about. I am yet to see them practice what they preach.

    By the way there is a dynasty on the Lok Pal committee, too. I will use the saffron argument to ask: in a nation of one billion people there was not one other lawyer who could match the Bhushans, father and son? That’s a point raised by your beloved Ramdev Baba too and the argument that others would not have been so capable is plain insult to people like Soli Sorabjee and Harish Salve.
    But then whatever the flaws, the Anna Hazare show has not ant the BJP is it? He succeeded in doing what the UPA didn’t ; silence the BJP and push them of the television space the so clearly crave. Par is bar Anna ne unki bolti hi band karva di!

    [Reply]

    Satish Haldankar Reply:

    Shikha

    Your comment is totally irrelevant to the subject of the blog.

    Never mind. You are talking about dynastic politics. Which major party, except the left parties, is not controlled by a family? I do not approve of it, but that is the bitter reality.

    One thing that can be said about these families (except two, more about them later) is that they subject themselves to the process of elections. Wasn’t Indira Gandhi lose her e own seat in 1977 or Rajeev Gandhi could not muster enough numbers to form the government in 1989? It is the same case with others too. Rabir Devi losing in last Bihar elections.

    Now the two exceptions

    First – the Shiv Sena and its offshoot – MNS. The Thakres have never shown any guts to even contest municipal elections. If they think it is below their dignity to contest elections (or is it the fear of defeat?), then they surely hold the very people the profess to protect in utter contempt..

    Second, the BJP. Isn’t this party remote controlled by the Sangh Parivar (family)? Were any President and other key functionaries of the BJP ever appointed after some electoral process? No. All the directives come from Nagpur. The remote controllers/RSS honchos have never even fought panchayat elections – leave municipal or state or parliamentary elections

    So what are we talking about? All parties are guilty on this count. Singling out one party or the other is not gong take us anywhere. I wonder what is they way to force all parties to have real inner party democracy.

    [Reply]

    Saarthak Reply:

    Shikha as usual you are spot on with your analysis. Anything that irks the Gandhi family, irks Sujata Anandan. we’ve seen this throughout

    [Reply]

  • shikha

    So who told you guys that I am a BJP supporter ?? When I talked about meritocracy, you guys concluded that I was refering to BJP?? Perhaps you yourself conceded that they they are a better performing side?

    Read my last paragraph carefully. I have urged people to cross party lines. It can be either way!! Elect a better performing government.

    And I don’t like any political leader fielding his sons and daughers in the elections, any party he or she belongs to. It should be completelyt banned.

    Jai Hind

    [Reply]

    Ganesh S Reply:

    You sound like them so you seemed to be from that party.I believe you if you say you are not.

    Let me define meritocracy for you in politics :

    Meritocracy is fairness of opportunity to everyone irrespective of their background.

    Now barring Rajiv Gandhi who suddenly found himself as PM under tragic circumstances,no member of Gandhi family in Congress has had a sudden catapulting.

    Maybe Sanjay would have had if he was alive.

    Rahul has calibrated his own position within his party and is busy with his own priorities.

    Sonia mentors and advises the party from outside.

    Yes,the children of politicians should not get automatic advantage.I concede here that belonging to Gandhi family gives anyone a headstart in Congress.But hasnt Rahul chosen the learning
    path?

    Bollywood,industry,business and even sports not to talk about other sections of the society have in built advantage of inheritance.

    Does it mean a dynasty is formed ? It would — if they undermine the Constitution of the country or rig the polls or hang on even after getting defeated.It is then that dynastic advantage comes and meritocracy takes a backseat.In all fairness,tell me can it happen in India ?

    Let me put the record straight.It is the sycophantic culture inside Congress that got perpetuated during Indira that makes it look like a dynasty.Actually it is not.You and me can make Rahul and Sonia irrelevant with our votes.

    But,if you are saying Rahul should stay away from politics just because he is from Gandhi family,that is unfair.

    RSS has excellent background of social service.This cannot be denied even by its worst critics.One needs to be open minded.

    I am not comparing the two but in the same way,please find out how Rahul is busy strengthening Youth Congress,how he has involved retired members of Election Commission of India in ensuring a strong foundation is created and yes,this may surprise you,to strengthen internal democracy within Congress.

    The problem lies with lack of readiness to speak up – inside the Congress.That is because a generation of Congressmen have been brought up remaining silent and following their leaders in whatever they do.

    Being a Congress supporter,I acknowledge this is an issue.But the truth is that voices are being raised by the younger lot.

    Youth must take over this country.Whatever party they belong to.

    [Reply]

    shikha Reply:

    Ganesh,

    I welcome your thoughts and ideas. And hopefully you would take my opinions in the same measure. Let me take on issues and concerns one by one-

    Why I raised the issue of Gandhi family and dynasty rule-

    I think Indians have been subjected to the “Gandhi” hysteria for long. The party leaders have carefully stamped Nehru, Indira Gandhi and Rajeev Gandhi everywhere, be it stadiums, airports, libaries.. so that when a child walks out of his home, these figures come to him completely natural as the sun, the moon and the stars.I do not endorse these methods of advertising and selling using public money. Yes other parties have followed too but no one has abused it as much as this family. Frankly it is time to get over this petty “jameendari” kind of mindset.

    No other party has received as many snubs from the Supreme court as the Congress party. Using governors to create trouble in Opposition ruled states.. or even worse establish President’s rule by dismissing the Opposition govt in the state.. Many of them have been termed uncostitutional by the Supreme Court.

    Sense of entitlement – When rahul Gandhi remarked that such an such unfortunate incident would not have occured under “Gandhi family’s rule” – I wanted to tell him.. be in your limits. Do you think your family DNA is an extra ordinary one??

    hereditary system- Politicians and film star children have to compete with hundreds and thousands worldwide to succeed. On the contrary, If your are gifted a ticket to contest Lok Sabha elections, you are just contesting with 2 or 3 candidates. For all the hype and hoopla surrounding these youths who happen to be politician kids (any political party ).. how many do you think would have stood out in college and post college performance ?? Frankly they are extremely mediocre. And their grduate grade reports should be made public. In USA people know how Obama, Hillary and Bush performed at grad level.

    Asset disclosure – I am utterly disappointed with the asset disclosure of Rahul Gandhi. Poeple who graduated from IIM and IIT with mid level seniority perhaps make more than him!! Are you willing to believe this??

    Being youth is not enough. Youthful ideas are important. If Rahul can

    [Reply]

  • http://www.hindustantimes.com Sujata Anandan

    Thanks, Satish. And you are right in your observations: the Lok Pal bill cannot be as draconian and untenable as the activists want it.

    [Reply]

  • http://www.hindustantimes.com Sujata Anandan

    No the Kashmiri fast will not succeed for the simple reason that Iron Sharmila’s has not succeeded for it did not have the Peepli Live quality to it that this one had. If the television cameras had not been picking up the sound bytes, how many would have come to support Hazare’s fast I wonder. I dont agree with all points made by Manu Joseph but he was not entirely wrong in calling it a popcorn revolution

    [Reply]

  • Hemang Shah

    hello ms Sujata,

    You are one of the writers who can make a difference to the society, then too why do u criticize things and not continue it. Yes in the past there have been instances when anna hazare was given false promises and the matter quitened…. but do u know the reason why it happened? . It was just because the media was sold out to politicians and never was the matter a front page news. Now the scenario has changed .Do you think that even this time media would have been helpful , no they woudnt have but just because of the youth support anna was getting(thanks to facebook/twitter) the media had to change their preferences and saw where their loyalty should lie .

    IF PEOPLE POWER CAN TOPPLE A GOVERNMENT ……. THEN JUST THINK WHAT CAN PEOPLE + MEDIA CAN DO………… IT IS A GIFT FOR YOU TO BE PART OF THE FOURTH ESTATE AND MAKE IT COUNT.

    Dr. Hemang Shah

    [Reply]

  • Ganesh S

    A week after the momentous week that saw Anna Hazare take centrestage in every Indian mind and fill it with hope,some well meaning questions ( not doubts ) have arisen inside my mind.

    1.The Jan Lok Pal Bill drafting committee has representatives from government and Anna’s team.What about other opposition parties ? At least the mainstream national parties like BJP/Left etc ?( Though I am a Congress supporter,I support their inclusion because I believe their concerns about corruption should also be included)
    2.Why should Anna Hazare not allow political parties to join his campaign? ( Is it a case of as George Orwell says all political parties are equal but some are MORE EQUAL than the other !!)
    3.Politicians were banned from reaching the podium where he was fasting – what was the RSS
    functionary Ram Madhav doing there ? On being asked this,Anna Hazare “profusely apologised” – as if someone really wrong had come to the podium and then hastily said THE MOMENT WE CAME TO KNOW WE ASKED HIM TO LEAVE THE PODIUM.( Now in spite being a Congress supporter,may humbly ask -if Ram Madhav supports the campaign,where is the problem ?
    4.Anna Hazare says when he came to know Ms Uma Bharati was turned away by his supporters he felt bad and he apologised to her for the manner in which his supporters prevented her from reaching the podium.
    5.Why apologise to Uma Bharati and why feel RIGHT about not allowing Ram Madhav on the stage ? I am confused.
    6.Kapil Sibal says Jan Lok Pal Bill will not eradicate corruption.Well even a kindergarten student would know it would not and that it is a long drawn struggle.But Anna Hazare choses to rubbish a completely bonafide statement of Kapil Sibal and questions his commitment to the cause and then goes on to proclaim that Kapil Sibal can leave the committee.Again,I am confused.The implication is – either buy Anna Hazare’s vision in toto or quit.No room for expressing ANY doubts?By anyone ?
    7.Before I could recover from the above,Anna Hazare without any rhyme or reason or context makes a sweeping statement praising Modi and Nitish Kumar for excellent rural development.Surely Anna,other states too have something to show – for eg.even its worst critics would agree that Left has done tremendous work in rural West Bengal or the Arogyasree scheme in A.P.or many other schemes elsewhere ? Why this sudden urge to single out Gujarat?Anna has a THANK YOU note from Modi to further complicate the matters for him and confuse me further.
    8.I was left wondering which yogic posture to adopt that would make me understand why Swami Ramdev discovered NEPOTISM in Prashant and his father Shanti Bhushan being a part of the committee.Maybe it was a case of someone feeling completely upstaged.Me and my small minded thinking !! I was further confused.
    9.Today,Medha Patkar has found fault with Anna Hazare praising Modi but said she remains with Anna.We are all with Anna Medhaji.Confused or otherwise.
    10.Anna Hazare wants the proceedings of the committee to be videotaped.I have every reason now as a citizen to demand that the proceedings of the internal discussions between him and his team – Kejdiwal,Kiran Bedi,Swami Agnivesh too should be videotaped.The point is when you have HALF of your own people inside the committee,what is this NONSENSE about videotaping ? Sorry Anna,I dont share your mistrust of the system to SUCH AN EXTENT.Rather I would say,Anna,I as a citizen have FULL faith that your members on the committee would prevent the other half – comprising of government from losing the focus and not allow the Committee to deviate.

    Seriously speaking,the post – fast week has been full of semantics,needless finger pointing towards EVERYONE IN POLITICS,at the same time,praise a few,apologise to a few,raise non issues like videography -all together Anna not half inspiring as those momentous three days when you were fasting !!

    My suggestions are :

    1.Please dont rely exclusively on the individual or collective decision of those core group individuals.
    There are not the SOLE CUSTODIANS or THEKEDARS of a vision of corruption free India.
    2.Please dont exclude politicians.Involve all parties.As Mr Advani rightly said,not every politician is corrupt.
    3.Please clarify once and for all – to WHAT EXTENT you support the relevance of Parliament,Judiciary and Constitution ?You will be surprised to know that some of your core group members have really romantic notions about the above.Do you share?
    4.Please ponder over this – did those millions of Indians who supported you express a COMPLETE LOSS OF FAITH in the system? Or they want to STRENGTHEN THE SYSTEM by giving it a moral edge ?Both are not the same thing.You yourself have said that you are not anti government you are for making the system foolproof.
    5.The core individuals in the group supporting you,Anna,are known to have their own views,their opinions,their own preferences and hence their own visions of India.It seems on the issue of corruption they are all with you.On every other issue,ASK THEM TO SHUT UP.
    6.Next time you address press,Anna,let no one whisper anything into your ears – right ear or left ear-whenever a question is asked.We the citizens of India respect you and trust you FULLY as a person.Let your views be your views.Otherwise,you will have to spend the next week explaining,apologizing,elaborating and what not.

    For my confusion to go,I want my Anna Hazare – free,pure,independent and hence a man of his own views.

    Last point,Anna,let us not mindlessly go on demonizing government and political class as a whole.Let us strengthen the system so much that moral governance gets institutionalised not corruption.

    For that Anna,we also need in your core group,many other individuals who instead of being mindlessly cynical about institutions,know the system well enough to contribute.A few names ? Well,Lyngdoh,Rebeiro,Kiran Bedi ( already there ) and numerous other REAL patriots.Please broaden this fight.Too much is at stake.

    [Reply]

  • B.V.SHENOY

    Wonder of wonders! Sabji madam has deleted, wiped off all comments from this blog!!

    [Reply]

    Saarthak Reply:

    Yeah, she’s been deleting comments against her article on this blog. So now mostly its the pro-Sujata and her biased article comments that remain. Well if that helps her live better in her illusory world

    [Reply]

  • payal

    yeah because they put her in her place and thse media call themselves liberal when they r the worst fascists..bloody hypocrites a combination of stupidity and corrupt evil

    that is why they r procongress and anti-bjp anti-modi and anti-hindu..

    pseudosecular traitors.

    [Reply]

  • Ganesh S

    Hello Shenoyji,

    Seems you have an exclusive obsession about vegetables.Seems you have eaten far too many karelas to keep harping on the same point again and again.

    [Reply]

  • smita prakash

    Hey thanks for attaching my article with this one.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Modi rightly denied these so called paltry gifts. He has every right to demonstrate his pleasure or displeasure about head gears & robes. I am glad that he did not stoop to meanness. The message would have been that Modi had been conquered by a paltry skull cap. Modi should keep winning hearts by good administration & progress of his subjects.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    And keep making inflamatory speeches, which in turn signal his followers to attack minorities, particularly Muslims in Gujarat.

    [Reply]

    shallabh khera Reply:

    The inflammatory speeches bursting from Mosque’s loudspeakers everyday in Srinagar, Assam, UP and Kerala are enough to tell us what we have seen in last 1000 years of Islamic Jehad..
    Thank you all Porki lovers can go to Pakistan, Bangladesh which have been given to bomb whatever they like….
    We want development, jobs…

    58 hindus burnt by Muslims… are all forgotten… as Hindu lives are not important and they are dividded and whih is reason why Muslims were able to rule India and convert them by sword…

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    So in your way of thinking, Modi a militant Hindu, is no different from militant Muslims.

    If that is the case then I agree with you.

    Sanjeev Pandey Reply:

    nflamatory speeches or grand posturing of being supporter of a community can influence fools like u who wont use won mind and would be influneced by 3-4 news anchors who would dish out what ever ehy wish u to feed..the problem with people like u is thar u are too simplistic to see beyond wht is being shown to u..

    [Reply]

    Judge Stern Reply:

    That’s your imagination that his acts will inspire others to act against Muslims! The Muslims in India are far more emboldened to act against Hindus compared to the Hindus being belligerent to act against Muslims in Pakistan and Bangladesh.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    Not my imagination, but a considered conclusion of an eminent lawyer, Raju Ramachandran.

    RajX Reply:

    An eminent unknown

    RajX Reply:

    It just needs some common sense and awareness to know that there has been no accounts of bombs being triggered by Hindus in Pakistan even though the state of Pakistan has institutionalized discrimination against nonmuslims, the Pakistan society there has institutionalized kidnapping, rape and forced conversion of Hindu girls into the Arab cult and the world including supposedly “Hindu India” has turned a blind eye to all this. Does ur mind need “eminent lawyers” and can’t work on it’s own based on known facts?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TGJCOVTI3D4I5L7YFTOD2RXC3A K. Syed

    It proves how much he hates the Muslims. Even the RSS and the BJP might not be having such a strong feeling against the Muslims as Modi has. When he cannot love his own mother, wife and brothers how one can expect from him to love Muslims of a different community as he is so communal from his inner belief and thought. Very soon he too will go in the same way as how yadiyurappa got from the above organizations. The moment he becomes a liability to them they will disown him and he will be no whare. That day is fast approaching. The 2002 Gujarat Riots and his role in it against a particular community speaks volumes in support of it. Let one wait for that moment.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Will you accept Tilak and Prasad? How about Ramnami shawl?

    You bloody thug..don’t teach us secularism?

    [Reply]

    RajX Reply:

    Yeduriappa is corrupt. There are no corruption scandals involving Modi yet. Maybe it’s your wish that he get caught in a corruption scandal but maintain some sense so you can distinguish between what’s your wish and what is reality. Rejecting an Arab religious symbol is not a sign of hating any Indian religious group.

    [Reply]

    Judge Stern Reply:

    If the Muslims and their leaders renounce the advocacy of JEHAD against other religious followers as well as accept the fact that Islam needs to exist with other religions in peaceful existence, all Indians will accept their gifts without any reservations. The innuendo created with the statement like yours is coming out of inferiority complex that is based on emotional feelings!

    [Reply]

  • roshan ramakrishnan

    i would first like a muslim mla, mp or minister wearing tilak or accepting a prasad…..ha……talking about secularism……..it is applicable to muslims too…..why don’t u write how the iuml external affairs minister mr ahmed refused to light a lamp during his stint as railway ministry………u r acting dumb…..

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    What about simple hindu gifts of Prasad and Tilak to Bukhari, Saudi King and other muslim leaders?

    [Reply]

    RajX Reply:

    Ah…that wont work. Hindus are idolators. The “one and only holy book and user guide for life” from the arabs has already called these idolators evil. Bukhari from Bukhara and the Saudi king are MUSLIM and hence superior because the book says so. If the book says so, then it must be true. Since the book is not from humans but from god, you can’t question the book. This is how the Islamist circular thought works. If the book says the world is flat, then the world is really flat and it’s not the book which is wrong but modern science since a book from god can never be wrong.

    [Reply]

  • Ravi

    They unnerve Modi, because they are not simple gifts

    [Reply]

    RajX Reply:

    Yeah. You are right. They are not gifts at all. They are strong symbols of Arab conquest of India. This Indian Muslim wouldn’t be existing if the Arab skull cap did not land in India over the dead bodies of his forefathers.

    [Reply]

  • Ag

    Modi can be rightly worried that the gifts are somehow carrying a payload of terror – maybe Arsenic or something else. Why take a chance? How many Muslims would cheer on if Modi is killed? How many Muslims have actually done this sort of a thing?

    [Reply]

    RajX Reply:

    Hahaha..a politician in Afghanistan was killed by an Islamic turban bomb. They didn’t check the assassin turban because it’s seen as rude to do that. The lesson learnt is better to be rude than be killed by fanatics.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    I am unable to understand as why Mr. Haq has brought BJP in his blog. If he has a complaint concerning Mr. Modi, he could ask him straight away. Bringing BJP in is in no Cultured..

    [Reply]

  • Ramesh Talwani

    ALLTHOSE WHO WEAR THOSE HEAD GEAR OR CARRY THOSE SCARFS LIKE LALU OR PASWANAND DIGGI ,CAN THEY BE CALLED MUSLIM LOVERS?
    THESE THINGS ARE NOT IMPORTANT ACCEPT FOR OUR PAID MEDIA.
    THE IMPORTANT IS TO ADMINISTER WITHOUT BIASES.
    MMSINGH SAYS MINORITIES ( MUSLIMS) HAVE FIRST RIGHT TO NATIONAL ASSETS. IS HE MAJORITY HATER?
    CONGRESS MAKE ALL EFFORTS TO SHOW THAT THEY BELIEVE IN APPEASEMENT OF MUSLIMS.
    HAS THIS HELPED?
    CONGRESS TILL DATE COULDNOT PRODUCE AN HONEST ADMINISTRATOR EXCEPT SHASTRI JI.
    BY DISCARDING SHAH BANU JUDGEMENT WHAT DID CONGRESS UNDER RAJIV PROVED.
    DOES IT PROVE CONGRESS IS WELL WISHER OF MUSLIMS?
    I REQUEST ZIA HAQ TO PLEASE ANSWER.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    The premise of this article is ridiculous. Why would a nonmuslim indian accept an Arab religious skull cap? If Muslims follow some Indian customs there is a logic behind it since Indian Muslims are Indian and most of them are of Indian stock. The same doesn’t hold the other way around. The skull cap is a symbol of an Arab religion. No nonmuslim would wear it. Zia as usual “forgot” to mention some inconvenient facts. The fact that Modi did accept a shawl from the same person who offered him a skull cap. So it’s not the the religion of the person in question but the religious symbolism of the gift being offered which resulted in it’s rejection. If you want to attack Modi, there are many factual ways to do it. Attack him for not doing enough to stop the violence against Muslims during the godhra riots. But this is a silly and frivolous attack not based on substance. It’s much like most articles which Zia has been writing. No substance but I still like to read the responses. They are more interesting than the article.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    Offering a ganapati to an Indian Muslim is ok. An Indian Muslim is Indian and so is the ganapati. But a skull cap is a Arab religious symbol. We can bow to a Indian Muslim but not to Arab symbolism.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    Good points. Arabization has taken a severe toll on some sections of indian Muslims turning them into foreigners in their own land. This is going to have unfortunate ugly consequences in the long run. People like Zia seem to be encouraging this process of alienating Indian Muslims from India and Indian culture.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    I have heard similar stories especially from people in the gulf countries. They even offer promotions if you are willing to convert and join their Arab club. It’s sickening how these people treat a spiritual thing like religion. But this sort of unhealthy attitude is common among abrahamic religions. All from the same gutter.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    You mean to say that be blind to the fact that the skull cap is a Arab religious symbol? It’s not a baseball cap to be not classified as a religious symbol. Silly.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    So any nonmuslim who refuses a Arab religious symbol like a skull cap is antimuslim? So how would you call a religious group which ended up partitioning India by trotting out a two nation theory? Traitors maybe. Are you one?

    [Reply]

  • http://twitter.com/sureshb65 shanmugham balaji

    HOW CAN HE EVEN DREAM OF BECOMING PM

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am surprised why god made you human when you refuse to use your peanut size brain.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    from when does “SKULL cap” became “milk of human kindness” ??

    [Reply]

  • http://www.aksaxena.in A K SAXENA

    Modi should have accepted the skull cap and applied a” tilak” on the forehead of the Muslim friend.
    A K SAXENA (A retired civil servant)

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    That’s a great solution…This will shut up fanatics like ZIA.

    [Reply]

  • shallabh khera

    Bhai jo sarkaar pichle 60 saaal se hinduon ko muslim topi pehnaa ke loot rahee hai lagtaa hai hindustan times ko vo pyaari hai….
    Jo bandaa kaam kar rahaa hai vo nahin….
    Can Mr Moulvi have a tilak and go to mosque? Can Mullahs go to temples everyday like we visit Ajmer sharif…..
    He has his personal beliefs.. Now who is mixing religion with politics and development….. Selective mention and omission is dangerous..

    Jai Hind
    Jai Bharat

    [Reply]

    Crimin4l_ds Reply:

    Mr. Shallabh for your kind info, In our maharashtra 2nd ganapati among ashtvinayka, chintamani of theur, I know many muslims who go to that temple. Lalbagcha raja ganapati, bohra used to ask favors from this ganapati. Muslims and hindus celebrate ganapati festival. I know a prominent ganapti mandal whose president was muslim and he was so popular among them that he was president till his death.

    Ajmer shariff is dargah

    [Reply]

  • shallabh khera

    Swami Vivekananda, Sawarkar were good leaders and Narendra Modi follows them,

    Hitler may have been the follower of Pegumbar and Ghori, Ghazni not Narendra Modi..

    [Reply]

  • Sanjeev Pandey

    to start with ..even the tital of your artcal is flawed..he never was unnerved and confidently and politely turned them down..i dont know if u went into modi’s head to see if he was unnerved but going by visuals it was sothing elses..now your artical is nothing but a weak attempt again in the endless compaigns agains modi to judge each and every move of his to find fault..but i pity u ..u faild miserably..modi comes out as a confident ,strong,non posturing,straight forward leader who wont wear a cap to appease someone or wear a cross to appease other..he is what he is..

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    I think all hindus should draw picture of Mohammad as he has been described as Kalki by Zakir Naik and put regular Teeka on his picture.

    [Reply]

    engrich Reply:

    zakir naik is right description of kalki bhagwan matches totally with prophet mohammed.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    So are you OK with hindus putting Teeka on Mohammad’s picture because he is Kalki first and Mohammad later.
    Mohammad to me should be called Hindu Saint.

    [Reply]

  • engrich

    aarti and wearing cap is different.modi is king ,he represents whole society.when u become king u should represent everybody.
    nawab wajid ali shah of lucknow started ramlila.all hindu festivals were celeberated in muslim palaces during muslim rule with same fervor.regarding hamid ansari he is selected not elected.

    [Reply]

  • engrich

    when u are ruler u should accept prasad.in muslim palaces ,all indian festavils were celeberated.nawab wajid ali shah use to become sree krisha,it is he who started ramlia and popularize lord ram in rular areas.

    [Reply]

  • engrich

    ILawyer’s report spells trouble for CM Narendra Modi
    in what may spell trouble for Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi and some top state officials, a confidential report by a Supreme Court-appointed lawyer has found no “clinching evidence” to dispute the presence of suspended Gujarat Police officer Sanjiv Bhatt at a meeting called by Modi on the night of February 27, 2002.
    The report has recently been submitted to the Special Investigation Team by Supreme Court-appointed amicus curiae (friend of the court) Raju Ramachandran, in a Gujarat riots case.
    Bhatt had in an affidavit in the Supreme Court in April stated that he was present at the meeting that night and witnessed Modi telling the police to be indifferent to rioters attacking Muslims during the mayhem that followed the Godhra train burning carnage.
    The state government had rejected Bhatt’s statement, saying he was not present at Modi’s residence on that occasion. Ramachandran is understood to have stated in his report that the fate of the case against all those, including Modi, can be decided only after all witnesses, including Bhatt, are cross-examined.

    Zakia is the widow of former Congress MP Ehsaan Jafri, who was burnt alive with 68 others at the Gulberg Housing Society in Ahmedabad a day after the meeting at Modi’s residence.

    Ramchandran’s report says Bhatt and all other officers present at the controversial meeting should be cross-examined by the trial court.

    If the court accepts Bhatt’s version of what Modi said at the meeting, all those named in Zakia Jafri’s complaint, including the CM, may have to face trial for criminal offences.

    Bhatt was a senior officer with the state police’s intelligence wing and as the intelligence chief did not attend the meeting, his statement draws credibility from the fact that such an important meeting could not have taken place without keeping this wing out, the report is learnt to have observed.

    Ramachandran is also learnt to have rejected the state government’s argument that Bhatt has levelled wild allegations against Modi and other senior officials because he is a disgruntled officer.

    On why Bhatt chose to speak out nine years after the riots, the amicus curiae is understood to have accepted his view that being a serving officer, he could have spoken out either before a commission or an inquiry.

    Ramachandran declined to comment on his findings. “I neither confirm nor deny your information,” he told HT. Gujarat government spokesperson Jai Narayan Vyas too refused to comment on the findings

    [Reply]

  • Dr Mishra

    Jaffer, nice sentiment by a muslim- If Zakir Naik says do not accept prasad, then Modi has every right to refuse the skull cap. But I think, Jaffer, that we need to ascribe to a higher plane than that- one of harmony, love and co-existence.
    Z Naik is a bit of an idiot, what with his disgusting views on apostacy etc. But I expect higher standards from my leaders. Double digit growth is one thing but building bridges is a long term investment worth quadruple digits. I, an Indian, a hindu, am deeply disappointed that Modi did not wear the cap.

    If Gujrati muslims had taken such a big step and come forward in such large numbers on the fast, then he should have reciprocated. The souls of 59 passengers and Ehsaan Jaffrey would have rested in peace.

    [Reply]

    Dr Mishra Reply:

    welcome to blog Mr Jaffer, it needs fresh voices. Hope to see you here more often

    [Reply]

  • Dr Mishra

    appreciate yr comments guest, my sentiments posted above. Pl come under your real name- this blog needs fresh voices

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    I doubt if Hindus have offered Arab skull caps to Modi. Even if some guy dis, he will probably refuse it.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    Your bigotry is always on display. His bigotry shows up only once in a while.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    Oh ok. Now you have circumcise yourself to show ur respect to Muslims. Hahaha..silly season.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Ansaris are arjal low caste hindu converts.

    [Reply]

    Crimnin4l_Ds Reply:

    may be. so may be in past they were denied rights of being human so they converted. It is universal truth why Mr. Babasaheb Ambedkar converted to Buddhism and he and his followers vowed to never accept hindu gods as their deities.

    Everybody knows what was Brahman and others behavior with dalits and low caste. so they converted to other religions who gave them honor, where they were not identified by their birth but by their deeds.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    India needs people like you who call spade a spade.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Sure…and what will happen to muslims after that. Just think before you puke.

    [Reply]

  • engrich

    when u are king u have to treat ur praja equally.take care of their sentiments.what is wrong in eating prasad.if it makes other happy.idont think it is prohibited anywhere.as a common man i can live as i want.as a ruler i should live as our subject want.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    Are you saying that one adult woman marrying five brothers in a mythalogical story is worser than an old Arab man who is supposedly a “prophet” “thighing” a six year old child until she is 9 and marrying her in ” real life”?

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    The only “prophet” who killed is an Arab called Mohamad. It’s the effect of arabization which makes you bow to such a man. Can’t blame you, the dice was cast centuries ago to turn you into what u have become today. An arabized brainwashed sc*m who can’t tell the difference between his head and his behind.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    Sure. Gandhi, Nehru and sardar Patel are secret Muslims. Brainwashed arabized sc*m. The British need to be thanked for throwing Islamist invaders from Persia and Arabia out of India. Only hold outs like you are left now. Pathetic.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    Why would a leader of a party which has a clearly defined Hindu nationalistic ideology accept a Arab skull cap when it’s well known that Arabs and Persians who wear that skull cap invaded and brutalized this country for centuries? Take you head out of your behind and use ur mind a bit.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    Justice is not just delayed but always denied to many Indians of other religions too. Why would you put one group of Indians above others? Did the gujrat riots happen before the religious cleansing, murder and rape of Kashmiri Hindu pandits but islamists? Have the pandits got justice ? You are just a bigot disguising ur with communal concerns with big words like “justice” which are not communal but universal.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    Hahaha….yeah. Then he should marry three woman and live with all of them.hahaha

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    In the same way, should Modi accept an Arab skull cap if it’s nicely given? Respect is a two way street. Hypocrite.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    I just noticed that people from a certain community as Mr.Kutty who should be giving an answer to you have avoided this post. That tells a lot about what’s happening in some parts of that community.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    You will be happy if he did.

    [Reply]

  • RajX

    What next from Zia? Will it be something on these lines

    “Sonia Gandhi is not wearing a full body niqab when talking to Muslim ministers. That’s showing disrespect to Islam and proves that she hates Muslims”.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. I think our educational institutions have utterly failed when they have produced Indians like Zia trying to throw mud at people using the shield of religion. Did he go to some institution where their values are not aligned with mainstream Indian thoughts? Or did he become like this later in life? Pakistan is bearing the brunt of the failure of their educational system which taught fanatical hatred and made up history. We have to learn lessons from their failure.

    [Reply]

  • http://twitter.com/DelhiBug Ranita Ray

    Answer is very simple, how many muslim leaders or maulvis would wear a hindu tilak on the forehead and a saffron pagri given by a Hindu spiritual leader??

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    Ranita

    At the face of it, your point is a very good one.

    However, once one has given it a bit more thought then the comparison fails to be an exact one.

    Let me take the two symbols you mention one by one.

    1. Tilak – is a clearly Hindu Religious symbol and only those who belong to that religion should wear it. Just to elaborate, there are Hindus who wear a Tilak comprising of THREE horizontal lines, and yet others would wear THREE Vertical lines. The sect that wears the horizontal tilak will NEVER wear the vertical one and vice a versa. These people belong to the same religion. Therefore, to expect that a Muslim would wear a tilak is simply wrong. However, we are talking about India, where nothing is simple, a Muslim playing the role of Ram in Ramlila, and Dilip Kumar in Ram aur Shyam, did wear tilaks and even sang one of the most beautiful bhajans.

    2. Saffron Pagri – Muslims in India as well as Pakistan do wear Pagri. The issue probably is with the Saffron Colour. I would’nt wear one.

    My view is that the offer as well as the rejection had a political element in it and it was meant as a trap and Modi was right to refuse. Not on relgious grounds but on entrapment grounds.

    BTW the RSS Sarsangchalak Deoras did accept muslim scarfs, and topis and was seen wearing them.

    [Reply]

  • Crimin4l_ds

    Modi didnt accept skull cap and it is his choice, Nothing wrong with that. And that funny guy who presented cap to him, no one came forward for modi and so this cartoon guy was called.
    And may be this whole thing is triggered by modi. Neta’s will do anything for vote.
    Moon, if mutton biryani is prepared with so much hard work, will Mr. pandey or tripathi or pathak will accept it? And if there are meat dishes in pot luck, it is choice to be made, some people will have meat some would not, why such a hue and cry. And muslims are much modest than brahmins and jains and their diet is too strict. Every body bring something for potluck so if a muslim guy don’t have one or two dishes, what is wrong with that. There is a dish you dont like and you dont eat it. simple as that. My bro always likes seafood but never go near river fish, we never complain.

    [Reply]

  • Crimin4l_ds

    This is called tolerance. That publicity hungry fool gave cap and modi chose not to wear it which was his decision. Everyone has a right to make one but so called secular media made it such a big issue. Why hindu should wear muslim cap. And Muslims got dragged in this mess when they had nothing to with it. it was pure politics.

    At least modi is true with his principles.

    [Reply]

  • Crimin4l_ds

    Tell me moon in your pot luck do brahmans have meat? then why you separate muslims.
    If you cook onion pakoda with hard work will jain brothers have it in pot luck? Brahman does not eat meat and muslim does not eat non halal meat. simple as that.

    When in our group even if there is one veggie we dont order anything nonveg, when we want to smoke we ask nearby people if we could? these are simple manners. Tolerance is the key for harmony.

    [Reply]

  • Crimin4l_ds

    And if when jain bro says no to your onoin pakoda or brahmin says no to your cake because it MAY have an egg in it or a meat dish, what do you call them, I wonder…..

    You speak of Hanumanjika prasad and I never accept dargah ki niyaj when I am a muslim. I dont go to dargah. simple as that. I just dont like that atmospheare where they have turned everything in money. Many muslims dont do that.

    Modi was presented a cap by a fool, and modi chose not to wear it which is right and proves that he is not hypcrite like congress or samajwadi. But dont drag musilims in it when they dont have to do anything with it. The person was not an alim but a dargah mujawar and it is not an illuminati secret what type these mujawars are. They rarely have anything islamic in their life. They are just after money and this fool was for publicity. He could have presented a bouquet of flowers but the fool was a pawn and did what he was expected to do.

    Muslims had nothing to do anything with it.

    PATHAR KI MOORTOON MEIN SAMJHA HAY TOO KHUDA HAY
    KHAK E WATAN KA MUJH KO HER ZARRA DEVTA HAY

    aa Gairat ke parde ik baar phir uthaa dein
    bichhado ko phir milaa de naqsh-e-dui mitaa de

    suunii pa.di huwi hai muddat se dil kii bastii
    aa ik nayaa shivaalaa is des me banaa de

    duniyaa ke tiirathon se uuncha ho apanaa tiirath
    daamaan-e-aasmaa se iska kalas mila de

    shaktii bhii shaantii bhii bhakto ke giit me hai
    dharatii ke baasiyo kii muktii priit me hai

    [Reply]

  • engrich

    Vande Mataram

    vande matram is notorious anti-muslim song written by a hindu terrorist bankim chatterjee.
    it shows anti-muslim sentiment.hence should not be sung on national functions.muslim/hindu leaders should be judhed on basis of their qualities of governance not on aarti or namaz.mayawati performed better than modi.fruits of developement have reached to the poors.in gujrat flow of money was hermetically sealed,flowing in certain section,hence poverty has increased,
    show of religion must be banned on public functions.

    [Reply]

  • Ravi

    To stoop to conquer requires an intelligent man.

    [Reply]

  • engrich

    suicide bomber has attacked a bus carrying foreign troops in the Afghan capital Kabul killing 13 US soldiers

    Thousands of Muslims in Mali’s capital, Bamako, hold a special prayer service for killed ex-Libyan leader Col Muammar Gaddafi

    [Reply]

  • engrich

    rss is voilent gang of anti-muslim homosexuals.savarkar was british spy coward and homosexual as well.modi accepts huge bribes on fake encounters not partly gifts.he is on his way to tihar.yedurappa is alone.

    [Reply]

  • engrich

    Farrakhan: Gadhafi fought U.S., NATO Terrorists With Honor

    see this on u tube quite interesting

    [Reply]

  • engrich

    ghaddafi vision of pristine water and abondned food for libya was the worlds most wonderous irrigation project in the history of mankind.forty years of this achievment was destroyed by us-nato bombing of depleted uranium nuclear bombing of water reservoirs poisoning the water is one of the most inhuman crime of our age

    [Reply]

  • engrich

    Anna Hazare’s Gandhian stunts to fool innocent Indians
    Neither the anti-corruption crusader, Anna Hazare, nor his opponents in the govt. are above corruption. Because corruption (meaning money corruption).flows from the top. It is the ruling upper castes, as the leaders of society, who taught us corruption. And that is how the whole society is today buried in corruption. There is not a single wing of the society which is free from corruption.

    Hazare defends the corrupt: If the current “Khatri Sick” PM or future PMs are free from corruption, why are they afraid of including the office of the PM in LokPal Bill?

    If Anna Hazare is lily white why did he defend Narendra Modi, the killer, and also the country’s most corrupt CM of Karnataka? Anna Hazare is said to be a Gandhian-but it is the Muslims, Christians and Sikhs who became victims of Gandhi and his Gandhism

    Dr. Ambedkar, the Father of India, called Gandhi a top class fraud in his writing and speeches.
    The whole excercise on Lokpal Bill is a waste of time. The frauds on both sides are united while publicly quarreling. But they are secretly trying to take the country on a joy ride, and thereby fool all of us. This is what is happening in the current Anna Hazare’s Gandhian drama

    [Reply]

  • engrich

    Chris Busby – Enriched uranium weapon new battlefield horror (25-Oct-11)(NWO GLOBAL WARS series)

    must see ,shan and ravi bhai

    [Reply]

    engrich Reply:

    the above is on you tube

    [Reply]

  • ashok taneja

    if gb road sex is illegal than how sex sales go on.i cannot understand it. every body knows about gb road than why govt. did not close them

    [Reply]

  • Pulkit

    so many right things said by the prostitutes. this profession should become legal because if these prostitutes are banned so many girl life will fall in danger. these people control crime that is called RAPE. if they are not exist or banned the mens will become giant and too many rapes will be commit.

    [Reply]