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		<title>Comment on Kuttey ki Maut: Pakistan’s poetry of angst by Akhilesh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.hindustantimes.com/separated-at-birth/2009/11/16/kuttey-ki-maut-pakistan%e2%80%99s-poetry-of-angst/#comment-2250</link>
		<dc:creator>Akhilesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let there be a bloggers movement on HT - why not. There is every kind of view on the blog pages - liberal, leftist, secularist, pacifist - every hue, excpet one. There is no rightist view. 

Why should there be no rightist view amongst official HT blogs?

Good time that all such regulalr contributors to the blog section of HT demand that there be a rightist view too. That will at least strike a sembalanec of balance in an otherwise just monodirectional thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let there be a bloggers movement on HT - why not. There is every kind of view on the blog pages - liberal, leftist, secularist, pacifist - every hue, excpet one. There is no rightist view. </p>
<p>Why should there be no rightist view amongst official HT blogs?</p>
<p>Good time that all such regulalr contributors to the blog section of HT demand that there be a rightist view too. That will at least strike a sembalanec of balance in an otherwise just monodirectional thoughts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kuttey ki Maut: Pakistan’s poetry of angst by Sam,</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam,</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what does it take to get a columnist in major newspapers to take a hardline stand for India ?

How can the owners/editors of major media outlets be convinced that readers/listeners also want a counter point to balance out the peaceniks ?

We need other view points than peaceniks.
When should army be used ? things like that.

If we listen to peaceniks all the time, we might as well dissolve the army and do nothing.
why waste salaries on army people, when we do not want to use those resources ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what does it take to get a columnist in major newspapers to take a hardline stand for India ?</p>
<p>How can the owners/editors of major media outlets be convinced that readers/listeners also want a counter point to balance out the peaceniks ?</p>
<p>We need other view points than peaceniks.<br />
When should army be used ? things like that.</p>
<p>If we listen to peaceniks all the time, we might as well dissolve the army and do nothing.<br />
why waste salaries on army people, when we do not want to use those resources ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kuttey ki Maut: Pakistan’s poetry of angst by Akhilesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akhilesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dr. Anand,
Most of peacenicks are actually out of work, good for nothing or past their prime individuals. Example - Kuldip Nayyar, who lives happily on any crumbs he gets by writing in Pakistani dailies. Or like of Prem Shankar Jha ( incidentally a past editor of HT) - who detects Indian secualrism faults even in as blatant an attack as the 26 / 11.

Most such pecewallas are actually "professionals" - this is how they earn their bread and butter. Thus such people are easily tradable - give them a right price - say a column again in Sunday HT - and they will change their colour the next day.

There is another class of peace pushers though - those who believe they are honestly serving some real purpose.  Vinod Sharma, is one of them .However, even thier motivation is not peace. But something even higher. My prognosis is that Vinod and likes of him thinks of themselves as serving some higher purpose, beyond the comprehension of us mundane and oridanary mortals. A purpose for greater humanity, etc. 

Thus anything we say on the contrary is not going to make them change thier minds. No evidence presented, no argumnets mustered, absolutely nothing is going to make them change thier mind from the committed path.

The best we can do is - limit the number of such people in single digits. Till now it is - Vinod and his ilk can be counted in single digits. Let's keep it that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dr. Anand,<br />
Most of peacenicks are actually out of work, good for nothing or past their prime individuals. Example - Kuldip Nayyar, who lives happily on any crumbs he gets by writing in Pakistani dailies. Or like of Prem Shankar Jha ( incidentally a past editor of HT) - who detects Indian secualrism faults even in as blatant an attack as the 26 / 11.</p>
<p>Most such pecewallas are actually &#8220;professionals&#8221; - this is how they earn their bread and butter. Thus such people are easily tradable - give them a right price - say a column again in Sunday HT - and they will change their colour the next day.</p>
<p>There is another class of peace pushers though - those who believe they are honestly serving some real purpose.  Vinod Sharma, is one of them .However, even thier motivation is not peace. But something even higher. My prognosis is that Vinod and likes of him thinks of themselves as serving some higher purpose, beyond the comprehension of us mundane and oridanary mortals. A purpose for greater humanity, etc. </p>
<p>Thus anything we say on the contrary is not going to make them change thier minds. No evidence presented, no argumnets mustered, absolutely nothing is going to make them change thier mind from the committed path.</p>
<p>The best we can do is - limit the number of such people in single digits. Till now it is - Vinod and his ilk can be counted in single digits. Let&#8217;s keep it that way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kuttey ki Maut: Pakistan’s poetry of angst by Paritosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paritosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry it accidently got re-posted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry it accidently got re-posted</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kuttey ki Maut: Pakistan’s poetry of angst by Paritosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paritosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry it accidently got posted twice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry it accidently got posted twice</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kuttey ki Maut: Pakistan’s poetry of angst by Paritosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paritosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@vijay kumar

Dawood for sure is India's enemy , but even if he is an "enemy" of Pakistan why should we bother about that?? moreover if they dont realise this, India should not be bothered if he carries out series of bomb blasts in Pakistan or  finances terror within Pakistan. 

 and one more thing, why are you so concerned about the Muslims or Islam.  is it so that you want to lick their soles so that you can get a genuine "secularist" stamp on your arse or is that so because you  havent got the balls to retaliate who abuses your culture. I agree that Hinduism has its own issues but atleast they arent bothering people of other faiths. these issues will soon get solved because Hindus are a more progressive community than the Muslims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@vijay kumar</p>
<p>Dawood for sure is India&#8217;s enemy , but even if he is an &#8220;enemy&#8221; of Pakistan why should we bother about that?? moreover if they dont realise this, India should not be bothered if he carries out series of bomb blasts in Pakistan or  finances terror within Pakistan. </p>
<p> and one more thing, why are you so concerned about the Muslims or Islam.  is it so that you want to lick their soles so that you can get a genuine &#8220;secularist&#8221; stamp on your arse or is that so because you  havent got the balls to retaliate who abuses your culture. I agree that Hinduism has its own issues but atleast they arent bothering people of other faiths. these issues will soon get solved because Hindus are a more progressive community than the Muslims.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kuttey ki Maut: Pakistan’s poetry of angst by Paritosh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.hindustantimes.com/separated-at-birth/2009/11/16/kuttey-ki-maut-pakistan%e2%80%99s-poetry-of-angst/#comment-2239</link>
		<dc:creator>Paritosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@vijay kumar

Dawood for sure is India's enemy , but even if he is an "enemy" of Pakistan why should we bother about that?? moreover if they dont realise this, India should not be bothered if he carries out series of bomb blasts in Pakistan or  finances terror within Pakistan. 

 and one more thing, why are you so concerned about the Muslims or Islam.  is it so that you want to lick their soles so that you can get a genuine "secularist" stamp on your arse or is that so because you dont have got the balls to retaliate who abuses your culture. I agree that Hinduism has its own issues but atleast they arent bothering people of other faiths. these issues will soon get solved because Hindus are a more progressive community than the Muslims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@vijay kumar</p>
<p>Dawood for sure is India&#8217;s enemy , but even if he is an &#8220;enemy&#8221; of Pakistan why should we bother about that?? moreover if they dont realise this, India should not be bothered if he carries out series of bomb blasts in Pakistan or  finances terror within Pakistan. </p>
<p> and one more thing, why are you so concerned about the Muslims or Islam.  is it so that you want to lick their soles so that you can get a genuine &#8220;secularist&#8221; stamp on your arse or is that so because you dont have got the balls to retaliate who abuses your culture. I agree that Hinduism has its own issues but atleast they arent bothering people of other faiths. these issues will soon get solved because Hindus are a more progressive community than the Muslims.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kuttey ki Maut: Pakistan’s poetry of angst by (Dr.) B.N.Anand</title>
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		<dc:creator>(Dr.) B.N.Anand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Vinod Sharma ji
You must have realised how risky  it is to be advocating friendly relations with our neighbour during these times.There is to  no sympathy for Pakistan.  Kasab may be in Indian prison  but in the hearts of hearts of majority of Paksitan people, he is still their real hero.  I am sure his name is going to be cited for future generations in Pakistan in times to come.After four wars, Parliament attack and 26/11 Mumbai carnage, no sensible Indian would entertain the idea of being extra friendly to our neighbour. The people of the country are really very angry. It will be good if you also felt the pulse of the people through the responses you receive from your blogs on this subject.We should be just neighbours as we can not change the neighbours. And absolutely no need to light candles on the borders.
Regards
(Dr.) B.N.Anand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Vinod Sharma ji<br />
You must have realised how risky  it is to be advocating friendly relations with our neighbour during these times.There is to  no sympathy for Pakistan.  Kasab may be in Indian prison  but in the hearts of hearts of majority of Paksitan people, he is still their real hero.  I am sure his name is going to be cited for future generations in Pakistan in times to come.After four wars, Parliament attack and 26/11 Mumbai carnage, no sensible Indian would entertain the idea of being extra friendly to our neighbour. The people of the country are really very angry. It will be good if you also felt the pulse of the people through the responses you receive from your blogs on this subject.We should be just neighbours as we can not change the neighbours. And absolutely no need to light candles on the borders.<br />
Regards<br />
(Dr.) B.N.Anand</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kuttey ki Maut: Pakistan’s poetry of angst by vijay kumar</title>
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		<dc:creator>vijay kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sam and Partitosh,

I know what you are trying to say. Look Dawood is India and Pakistan's enemy actually.  But Pakistan rates him as a friend. And one day when half of Pakistan lies in Dawood's stomach, another part in Hafeez Saeed's intestines and a part would be ruled by Masood Azhar, Pakistanis would still be blind and would still be calling India the enemy !!:)

My point is don't abuse Islam. It does not promote goodwill between Hindus and Muslims or for that matter between any two religions. All religions have to reform and have an ongoing process of doing so.

Hinduism has seriously started battling its caste problems and will only emerge stronger; Christianity fought its battle on gender equality; Islam too has many internal battles to fight on women's rights and gender  equality, democracy and dealings with other religions. Yet the backward looking leadership of Muslims is not willing to confront any of the issues, but instead blames other relgions for their plight. We should therefore help Muslims to discover a new gentle path of assimilation rather than building up a confrontation.

I hope you get the gist of whatt I am saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sam and Partitosh,</p>
<p>I know what you are trying to say. Look Dawood is India and Pakistan&#8217;s enemy actually.  But Pakistan rates him as a friend. And one day when half of Pakistan lies in Dawood&#8217;s stomach, another part in Hafeez Saeed&#8217;s intestines and a part would be ruled by Masood Azhar, Pakistanis would still be blind and would still be calling India the enemy !!:)</p>
<p>My point is don&#8217;t abuse Islam. It does not promote goodwill between Hindus and Muslims or for that matter between any two religions. All religions have to reform and have an ongoing process of doing so.</p>
<p>Hinduism has seriously started battling its caste problems and will only emerge stronger; Christianity fought its battle on gender equality; Islam too has many internal battles to fight on women&#8217;s rights and gender  equality, democracy and dealings with other religions. Yet the backward looking leadership of Muslims is not willing to confront any of the issues, but instead blames other relgions for their plight. We should therefore help Muslims to discover a new gentle path of assimilation rather than building up a confrontation.</p>
<p>I hope you get the gist of whatt I am saying.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kuttey ki Maut: Pakistan’s poetry of angst by Sam,</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam,</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Usman.

I agree slavery was part of arab culture pre-islam.

that is not the disagreement for both of us.

But Koran and Hadiths, explicitly permit buying, owning slaves.
We are not confusing culture, with books.
Islamic books let a muslim master to even have a relation with a female slave.

Mohd himself owned and captured people and made them slaves.
If Koran is god's word, why is slavery permitted from God ?
Why was slaves sold in Mecca until 1920/1930's
(only when british forced arabs, they abolished it.
it was legal in saudi until 1963)..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_slavery

Do you know when muslims took so many Hindus from the wars and sold them in central asia ?
It was recorded by muslim historians themselves.
They justified all those acts based on Koran and they still quote specific verses to justify their position.

If you disagree, argue with your own religious scholars first.
then once you win over them, tell the kuffar's like us later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Usman.</p>
<p>I agree slavery was part of arab culture pre-islam.</p>
<p>that is not the disagreement for both of us.</p>
<p>But Koran and Hadiths, explicitly permit buying, owning slaves.<br />
We are not confusing culture, with books.<br />
Islamic books let a muslim master to even have a relation with a female slave.</p>
<p>Mohd himself owned and captured people and made them slaves.<br />
If Koran is god&#8217;s word, why is slavery permitted from God ?<br />
Why was slaves sold in Mecca until 1920/1930&#8217;s<br />
(only when british forced arabs, they abolished it.<br />
it was legal in saudi until 1963)..</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_slavery" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_slavery</a></p>
<p>Do you know when muslims took so many Hindus from the wars and sold them in central asia ?<br />
It was recorded by muslim historians themselves.<br />
They justified all those acts based on Koran and they still quote specific verses to justify their position.</p>
<p>If you disagree, argue with your own religious scholars first.<br />
then once you win over them, tell the kuffar&#8217;s like us later.</p>
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