Can the NDA bear Sangh’s Hindutva baggage?



The VHP’s endorsement of Narendra Modi as the BJP’s Prime Ministerial candidate to carry forward the Hindutva agenda is a double edged sword. It might unite the Sangh Parivar’s core base while cutting the NDA into pieces.

Technically, the last word on the issue belongs to the saffron party’s parliamentary board. But the VHP’s pronouncement and the (media interpreted) oblique support of it by RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat could trigger a much bigger political polarization ahead of the 2014 polls.

A big section of the BJP’s erstwhile and present allies in the NDA are weary of Modi. Their unease will be compounded by the Gujarat CM’s projection as a torch bearer of the Hindutva plank, at the core of which is the divisive Ram Temple issue.

For his part, Modi has been attempting an image transplant since his electoral hat-trick in Gujarat. It will be interesting to watch whether he will— in the emerging scenario— revert to the basics the BJP had to forego to become acceptable in a coalition arrangement under Atal Bihari Vajpayee during the 1998-2004 NDA ruled.

If Modi’s indeed accepted as the candidate for the PM’s office, the BJP will in all probability be going into elections at the head of a badly truncated NDA. The first to exit the alliance will be the JD (U). The position of Shiv Sena isn’t also clear on the issue, the late Bal Thackeray having voiced his preference for Sushma Swaraj before his death.

If the ostensible pro-Modi tempo sustains, the poll outcome will depend on the size of Hindu consolidation in a polity driven by caste allegiances in vast parts of the country. However, in urban areas, where aspiration often triumphs identity, the gamble might be worth the risk for the BJP. It might recoup the middle class constituency it lost to the UPA in 2004.

That nothing can be said with certainty — not at the current juncture — is explained by the series of assembly polls in the run-up to the general elections. If Modi’s counterparts in MP and Chattisgarh score hat-trick victories, the picture might change dramatically. It will provide Modi’s detractors an opportunity to turn the tables in the name of keeping intact the NDA.

There are many acts to the unfolding drama. The opening scenes at Allahabad could be misleading.

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  • RajeevS

    Simple answer is NO

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  • Anonymous

    Sharma, as usual, is falsifying/interpreting — I did not see anywhere in the VHP endorsement that Modi will carry forward the Hinduata agenda.

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    engrich Reply:

    HINDUTVA is hindu zoinism.haathi ke daant khane ke aur dikhane ke aur.modi is product of hindutva.they cannot leave hindutva at all.

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  • engrich

    India child sex victims ‘humiliated’ – Human Rights
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    Government systems to deal with the issue of abuse are inadequate, it
    says.

    The report says sexual abuse is “disturbingly common” in Indian homes,
    schools and care homes.

    The Indian government has made no public comment about the report’s findings
    - it does not respond to such reports as a matter of policy.

    A government
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    physically abused and that 53% of the nearly 12,300 surveyed children reported
    one or more forms of sexual abuse.

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    In India, sex is a taboo subject and sexual abuse is rarely discussed, or
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    Campaigners say that in India’s traditional patriarchal society, the abusers
    are often family members – they include parents, grandparents, uncles and
    siblings, and other caregivers.

    Often parents and other authority figures are reluctant to report abuse
    because they want to avoid scandals. They also want to protect the child victims
    from further distress having to deal with an insensitive police force, intrusive
    medical examinations and an insensitive judiciary.

    Campaigners argue that what India needs is a “zero tolerance approach” to
    cases of sexual abuse of children.

    Other reports say more than 7,200 children, including
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    cases go unreported. ‘Dismissed, ignored,
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    The
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    It says that the authorities are failing to protect children both from sexual
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    “Children who bravely complain of sexual abuse are often dismissed or ignored
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    to ensure that abuse is reported and fully prosecuted”.

    Campaigners say children are sexually abused by relatives, neighbours, at
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    Ravi Reply:

    Engrich

    What is this third class level of propaganda. Are you not a LeT student. Please increase your level ot I will stop the ISI stipend.

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    engrich Reply:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-21352102
    this is bbc report not written by me.

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    Ravi Reply:

    This is cut and paste not relevent to topic. I will ask ravi to retrain you on Aurangzeb rape thesis.

  • Ravi

    VHP supporting Modi is the best news I have heard for many a months.

    VHP has played a very clever card. In order to increase his popularity outside of Gujarat and to make himself that much more Primeministerial, pressure will be on Modi to move closer to the centre and keep his focus on economic development. However, for his mentors such as VHP and the RSS, economics and development is not at the top of their agenda. Their aim is to Hinduavtaise India and realise their dream Bharat. Such openly vocal support will restrict Modis movement towards the centre ground and tie him down to the religious right-wing.

    This will also allow the UPA to monopolise the economic agenda and they will be able to say, we may be financially corrupt, but the other guys are morally corrupt. Rhetoric will follow these lines even if the reality is somewhat different.

    Battle-lines will become more clearly defined and voter will have a clear choice between progressive economic agenda and Masala Tea Party, full of religious fundos.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “progressive economic agenda of the UPA”????? is like

    Dracula in charge of blood bank
    Osama bin Laden in charge of world peace
    Deobandis in charge of Shia Mausoleums
    MaoTse tung in charge of democratization

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good one!!

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    Ravi Reply:

    Or even Christians quoting Mahabharata

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Lot of Christians are Mahabharatha/Bhagavad Gita experts. – Dr George Sudarsan, Cardinal Joseph Parekkattil, the first education minister in kerala govt Joseph Mundasery, Vettam Mani, the author of 1470 page reference book “”Puranic Encyclopedia” cross referencing all the characters in our ancient books (an English translation of this Encyclopedia is published by Motilal Benarsidas of Delhi) – the first and only one may be in any Indian language, Dr Ravi Mathai, KJ jesudas, the youngest Cardinal Cleemes, yours truly –the list is endless.. It was never a neiher nor with us here.

    AshishC Reply:

    Respect..

    “it was never a neither nor with us here..”
    BTW, Gopi, you failed to mention Wendy as among those outside Kerala who, while not being Hindus, quote from the Mahabharata. :D

    acharya Reply:

    “it was never a neither nor with us here..”

    ??? I fail to understand the underlying meaning.

    Ravi Reply:

    Just measure the profundity, never mind the meaning.

    Ravi Reply:

    Utter contempt.

    Like-wise one can easily say that….

    Dr Ramesh Ramalingham a man very partial to Black-Pudding is head of Blood-Bank in Rotherham General Hospital.

    Joshua Milton Blahyi a war lord turned peace loving Christian Evangelist

    Ashoka, you know how many he killed and how much of his life he invested in Peace.

    The much hated Pakistani Government has kept intact all of Sikh Holy shrines.

    Modi is closer to Mao Tse Tung, in his authoritarian approach to governance than is compatible with real democracy.

    Nelson Mandela imprisoned for 26 years for terrorism offences is universally regarded as a contemporary Gandhi.

    Henry Kissinger – the peace Nobel Prize winner is also the most wanted mass murderer.

    So my friend not everyone is as simple as you are.

    Furthermore, with the exception of it being a cheap political shot against the liberal secular government of India your comparison does not stand close scrutiny.

    Whatever the shortcomings of the UPA government, and believe me there are many, at least it not the government
    of crypto fascist religious fundos.

    Ravi Reply:

    My Son Ravi

    Papa kehtein hai ki bada naam karega

    Baeta hamara LeT ka kaam karega

    Indians are getting strong as Modi is coming. All of us jehadis should wear helmet on our bottom as Chappal spanking will make our bottom red… :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Superb.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A – reads written speech and makes a fool of himself

    B – speaks from his heart and inspires

    A – claims his candidature to his dynasty

    B – has worked hard for it

    A – has only talked so far

    B – has delivered

    A – is being imposed on the nation by his loving Mom

    B – is being looked up to by the nation

    A – is proven corrupt (even by your own admission)

    B – is uncorruptible (an unheard of concept in a particular party)

    You can judge yourself by what you are capable of, others judge you by what you have already achieved.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Ravi my son

    Indians are becoming smart. They no longer are afraid of Jehadis like me and you. If Modi comes, please hide yourself in Engrich’s Pajama as Modi is a no nonsense go-getter.

    Your fake propaganda which I taught you at the jehadi anti- India camp in Muridke will fail before Modi’s charisma. Engirch the jehadi parrot will be the only guy who will listen to you.

    Bad times are ahead for us guys, People will realise we are jehadi turds and throw chappal at us.

    To save your bottom I suggest you wear a HELMET on your bottom below the Muridke Pajama… so that the chappal strokes wont hurt !

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  • Anonymous

    Mr. Sharma,

    Modi hasn’t changed or looking for an image makeover. He has been and would remain the uncorruptible leader with a proven track of development. It’s people like you in the media who have ran a vilification campaign for over decade to show him as a Hindutva hardliner. His state has the highest percentage of Muslims in the police force. His party has a number of Muslims in Municipal Corporations. He has probably demolished more temples in Gujarat than any other CM when they came in the way of development of the state. Did he do all this as a Hindutva poster boy?

    Because of a riot under their tenure, which other CM has been called names that has been associated with Modi? People have realised that 2002 was neither the first or the last of the unfortunate riots that the nation has seen.

    He is on a roll and literally unstoppable. In an atmosphere of despair (5% GDP forecast predicted), we need someone like him. He is the symbol of hope and pride in ourselves. He has a vision and has been working on it.

    And, he doesn’t need to be a Vajpayee. Even Vajpayee’s first tenure ended in 13 days – was he not secular enough then? He could only complete his full term as the PM of NDA when the BJP had the numbers behind him. Similarly, when the party would have enough seats, allies would join in. The regional parties are not in politics only for social-service or love for their country. They won’t mind sharing the power with Modi if the party comes closest to the half-way mark.

    Despite the gag order by Rajnath Singh on party leaders, the talks on Mr. Modi is unstoppable. With due credits to Mr. Saxena: Chali Hawa NaMo Namo.

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  • Anonymous

    rAM AUTAR/gINGRICH
    I request you to stick to the items (or bring whatever you want to as a response)..You were singularly responsible for killing Zia Haq’s blog – it used to have five hundred plus active interactions. This is a free country; you have the right to kill this blog too.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi
    Your singling out of Engrich is not only partisan, it also smacks of gross unfairness, when you know that there are others in this blog who have been singularly responsible of hounding out sane voices.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Ravi my son

    I think we need to revert to Zia’s blog or maybe blog in Tora Bora. Indians are getting strong with the strongman like Modi coming in…

    Maaro mujhko joota… main hoon ek sada bootha

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    engrich Reply:

    shenoy v
    what u feel about my awnser.above.

    Ravi Reply:

    You should keep hand on Ravi’s bottom as all garbage comes out on this blog

    engrich Reply:

    gopi jee following 3 support hindutva,

    ndia suffers eternally in the hands of the troika of Marvadi’s,
    Gujju’s & Brahmins. The Big three have made India suffocate &
    suffer by their unethical ways throughout the history. Put together they
    add up to 8 to 9% of Indian population and hold more than 90% of Indian
    money, power and other resources. Socially, Educationally, Economically
    they have always been very powerful & superior to the remaining
    masses of India. Indian Economy is in the hands of Marvadi’s. They hold
    most of the Indian businesses. It is surprising to see only one
    community flourish in businesses, generations after generations. These
    people do not eat mutton but suck the blood out of people. They have
    mistaken cheating & manipulations for entrepreneurship. Non-marvadi
    Indian can succeed in business outside India but not in India. Sabeer
    Bhatia and others in Silicon
    Valley are great examples. Non-marvadi Indian can succeed in Indian
    Business with Non-Indian clientele. Infosys & other big & small
    software companies are live examples. However, a Non-Marvadi cannot
    succeed in Indian business Environment whereas a Marvadi can easily
    succeed with their competence in manipulatuions and machinations without
    really having the real competence, technical or otherwise. Right from
    adultering milk & other food items in a grocery shop, duping
    customers with non-standard items for branded items, to the big
    industrialists evading taxes, a Marwadi is involved everywhere in
    cheating this Nation.
    They have mastered the
    trick of greasing palms of ever greedy politicians & bureaucrats to
    ensure the unethical & illegal businesses & methods are ignored
    by the people in Power. Business are shared within their community
    irrespective of cost and quality to ensure firm hold on business &
    economy with the Marvadi’s. Every attempt is made to kill the
    entrepreneurship from other communities. Businesses given to
    Non-marvadi’s will suffer Non-payment OR late payments to the point of
    closure of the others business. Employees in Marvadi firms are treated
    like slaves. The most qualified, intelligent and effective of the
    Employees have to work under low educated marvadi, appointed by the
    owner, as their boss, who keeps on learning from them and bossing over
    them at the same time, without giving exposure, value addition, or
    avenue to move ahead in the company. Once a person enters a Marvadi
    company, his learning stops and has to remain clerk forever, even if he
    is a Professional. With no addition in knowledge, he cannot venture
    outside the company and has to live a life of stagnated pond. Marvadi’s
    are destroying the intelligent and educated middle class just because
    this class is entrapped in home loans and other such loans. Earlier they
    cheated people by lending money at exorbitant interests and grabbed
    farming lands & other properties worth crores of rupees. A parallel
    economy with black money is run by the same community
    The unethical ways of Marvadi’s are
    destroying people and the Nation. Gujju’s are aptly represented by
    people like Harshad Mehta and Ketan Parekh. Recent killings of innocent
    men, women & children from minorities can give a peep into the minds
    of Gujju’s where they are in majority. The same Gujju’s have driven out
    Maharashtrians from Mumbai to the far outskirts of Mumbai. Mumbai has
    been grabbed by Gujju’s. It is only the Parsi’s who do business in India
    very ethically and with a lot of social commitment & ecological
    responsibility. They have tremendous respect from every Indian.

    Brahmins
    blocked the education for others ensuring no competition. Brahmins have
    hold on Educational Institutions, Software companies, administrative
    jobs in Govt. & Lucrative posts in Private companies. Once a Brahmin
    enters an Organistaion, he slowly makes it the Brahmin Organisation, by
    employing everyone from his own
    caste. Where are others? They are peons, clerks, vegetable vendors,
    street cleaners, farm labourers, construction labourers, low level
    workers in factories and doing rest of the menial jobs. The suppression
    of masses continues in one form or the other.

    These three
    communities are the ardent supporters of BJP & the RSS. They are
    blinded by their self interests, least bothered about the Nation.
    Indulging in the superiority on Indian masses forever, they have been
    curse to the Indian masses.

    The new
    found mantra of Hindutva was a master stroke to deflect the attention
    of masses from the real issue of disparity & in equality to the
    non-issue of religion. Pitting one religion against another OR one caste
    against another are their strategic moves. It is indeed barbaric to
    fight each other just because the other is born in different religion or
    different caste. But that serves the purpose of these communities.
    Indian economy, businesses and education is in their hands. The masses
    should realise the intentions of the saffronites whose real masters are
    in this troika and instead of indulging in barbaric fights we should
    make every effort to uplift the masses to dizzying heights to be equal
    if not more equal to this troika, who have inflicted the greatest of
    injuries to the masses and this Nation

    I HOPE U WILL AGREE WITH ME.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Engrich

    You also should wear helmet at bottom or Ravi should keep his hand there as all this garbage spills out

    Yours truly

    Chacha Hafees

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ram: A rising tide lifts all. A scene in vishwaroopam, or a page in Rushdie’s book, or a song by a Muslim girl in Kashmir is not and should not be the problem that Muslims should be obsessed with. similar stuff for other disadvantaged too. There are good people and bad people. They are uniformly distributed across all faiths. For all your anti Brahmin rants, as I told you so many times, i am yet to find a rich Brahmin in Kerala – Christinas are the richest, then Muslims, then hindu. And among Hindus, Brahmins may be one of the poorest; the richest being Ezhavas, a backward caste (the highly respected ex CM Achuthanandan belonged to this group, although he is not a rich man). I am sure there will be only negligible presence of Brahmins in the 100 richest Indians. Naraya Moorthy, may be one of the richest Brahmins, made money the American way – in that process, he made so many Indians from all backgrounds multimilionaires, based on merit and contribution. He transformed Indian business model, which fortunately many family businesses are folowing. All know time has changed. Azim Premji has declared that his son Rishad will not be the head guy of the company. Shiv Nadar, not a Brahmin or a forward caste member, is a self made billionaire. Dr Sam Pitroda, may not be a multimillionaire, but a highly respected person on whom many leaders rely on, is a Dalit (I may be wrong here). There are thousands and thousands like these people. Education is the key. We have seen so many families moving up big time because of the education of their offsprings. What we all, the government,a nd the “disadvantaged” people should do is to ensure all get educated. It is not too much to expect after 66 years of freedom. .

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    engrich Reply:

    66%of administrative posts in india are held by brhmns.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Loved it.

  • Anonymous

    Mr Sharma.

    yeh toh hona hi thaa!! For the past 9 years the UPA has been banking on the Muslim vote. Singing the Muslim Song, Crying for Muslims and asking for them to have the first share of resources. In any successful country, religious identities are a private affair but in India the UPA made it a point to bow i front of Osamaji and Hafees sahab and then claim it was balanced.

    Sadly Muslims in India are progressing most in Modi’s state.

    The Congress may do everything for the 15% Muslim vote but in the end it would be probably divided betwen the COngress, Mulayam Singh, Mamta, Keft front, Maya, DMK and BJP ( to some extent)l

    But the 86% Non Muslim vote may large veer towards the NDA.

    So the Congress can be a bigger loser.

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    engricn Reply:

    anti-hindyva parties have full support of sc st bakwards minorities and tribals which consist 85%of indian population.hindutva has support of 13%of high caste hindus.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo – news about Hafees Sahib in today’s NY Times

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/07/world/asia/lashkar-e-taiba-founder-takes-less-militant-tone-in-pakistan.html?hp&_r=0

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  • Ravi

    S P O T – T H E – D I F F E R E N C E

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    Ravi Reply:

    Son you and engrich are same to me. No difference.

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    engrich Reply:

    so what u want to say.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Tons of difference – one is enhancing the livelihood of 70 million people, opening up opportunities; while the other is presiding over Islamic Jehadis, destruction, and killings in three, may be more than three, countries.

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    Ravi Reply:

    HERE IS A QUESTION

    1. There is $10 million bounty on the head of Hafiz Saeed

    2. All the family of Hafiz Saeed’s assiain will be given US citizenship

    3. Hafiz Saeed does not live in a secret fortified house

    4. Hafiz Saeed’s address is known

    5. Hafiz Saeed roams around Lahore openly

    6. US and Pakistan has declared LeT a terrorist organisation

    7. US consider LeT as a danger to its home security

    8. If US wanted to it could kill Hafiz Saeed

    9. If ISI wanted to it could kill Hafiz Saeed.

    10. If Pakistan civilian Government wanted to it could kill Hafiz Saeed.

    If the above are true, which I believe they are, then.

    Why is it that no one, not even American Seals, have killed
    Hafiz Saeed?????

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    engrich Reply:

    1. There is $10 million bounty on the head of Hafiz Saeed

    there is bounty on his head.but 10 million dollar will be given to someone who can provide clue leading to his arrest.good chance for henoy vinoo and gopi to make money.

    engrich Reply:

    there is no bounty.

    pls correct.

    Ravi Reply:

    Engrich

    NEW DELHI: The United States has placed a $10 million bounty on the head of banned militant outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) founder, Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, the Times of India reported early Tuesday morning.

    US undersecretary of state Wendy Sherman while addressing a gathering at the Aspen Institute on her maiden visit to India, said that both Saeed and his brother-in-law Abdul Rehman Makki carried a bounty on their head. The latter was a co-founder of the banned outfit and carries a smaller $3 million bounty.

    The reward is for the capture or furnishing information which leads to their capture.

    Saeed is considered by the US and India to be involved in orchestrating the November 26, 2008 Mumbai attacks under the alleged tutelage of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). The attack has soured relations between Pakistan and India.

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/358966/us-announces-10-million-bounty-on-hafiz-saeed-report/

    engrich Reply:

    The reward is for the capture or furnishing information which leads to their capture

    hafez
    sayed requested wendy sherman that he is ready to come anywhere he
    wants but bounty should be given to him as his charities need it.

    then
    wendy sherman changed the stand and said his goverment would give 10
    million to those who can give proof leading to his arrest.

    india
    did not form enquiry commission to reach truth. media reports were
    taken as proof.pakistan goverment has gone to supreme court

    to
    arrest hafiz sayeed.supreme court asked proof.papers given by indian
    were only media news.SUPREME CURT IMPOSED 10000 FINE FOR WASTING COURT
    TIME.that is why he is roaming free.

    so there is no bounty on his head.otherwise pakistan goverment would have sent him to america.

    when wendy sherman went pakistan,he changed his stand.

    u can check this from embassy.

    bobby Reply:

    I am confused here. Someone ,please clarify this for me:

    1. Hafiz Saeed is a leader of a religous/ploitical party with a large
    following. His whereabouts are known to everyone including the USA. He
    does not live a secret life? So what is the bounty for? If I tell the US
    his house address , which they already know, will I get the bounty?

    2. Hafiz Saeed was arrested by the Pakistani Government and tried in
    court. The court did not have any eveidence that was presented to
    detain him and he was asked to be released. Has the US provide these
    evidence to the Government of Pakistan?

    3. Why was the announcement made in India instead of communicating
    directly to Pakistan ? Was this a way of adding pressure on Pakistan to
    open the routes for transporting weapons of mass destruction to
    Afganistan to kill more civillians , especially children as they sleep
    in their homes? Or was it to appease India and pressure them to break
    relationship with Iran?

    4. Hafiz Saeed is not exactly an angel and his being removed from the
    scene will be benefical to a great many Pakistanis as well. But is this
    the right way? Instaed of proceeeding with a democratic and judicial
    process, US is demsotrating that might is right and anyone who has money
    or millitart strong can be uncivilized becuase might is right.

    Ravi Reply:

    Absolutely Brilliant

    Ravi Reply:

    Oye NEgich… dont forget I am your Chchca!!

    Both you and me are brainwashed turds. Ravi is the biggest ****…

    But please dont try to make money by selling me.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Here is a front page article on Hafiz Saeed in today’s NY times

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/07/world/asia/lashkar-e-taiba-founder-takes-less-militant-tone-in-pakistan.html?hp&_r=0

    Pakistanis do not want to kill him, ISI is his master/supporter; he is getting into politics, Civilian Govt is afraid of him…US can kill him; they can do a drone; but doing drone in Lahore will entail significant collateral damage. They will have to lure him to thinly populated Afghan border before doing the drone!

    Ravi Reply:

    Oh !! Ravi mY son!! You are defending your own blood by defending me!!

    We have to fool the world that we are being discriminated against!! We should keep crying Islamophobia all the time and make other people look like villians.

    Both you and Engrich will get four hair from m beard as reward for this service !!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Modi will get a one billion vote bank bounty, you fake!

    Ravi Reply:

    My Son Ravi

    You are like me. We have same same blood. We both are jealous of India’s progress and want to make it hell like our Pakistan

    This Modi will make India strong and great and a true world power. I therefore command you to spread bad propaganda about Modi. Like a rue jehadi slave ou must do it 24/7

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    vinayak purohit Reply:

    in gujrat only bania propered.common man has gone down.he is selling the land of poors to corporate so.he is darling of zoinist controlled toilet paper and electronic media .

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  • Ravi

    MODI FOR PM

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  • Vinay Dey

    Dream on Mr Sharma. You think the population under 35 are religious minded.They are more interested in economics and progress.Gujarat is famous for entrepreanuership and it so happen that Modi is CM.Give some credit to gujaratis.

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  • Anonymous

    Mr Sharma does not have a clue on youngsters, city/urban dwellers, educated people. They are all for Mr Modi in high numbers, irrespective of Babri and other religious wedges..

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  • pankaj#1

    This article appears like a wish list of writer. If modi is projected leader,JD-U will leave coalition, since bala Saheb had preferred sushma, shiv sena may object.
    Equally dangerous and condemnable casteist politics is looked at benignly. and hard nationalism is being perceived as communalism? Writer has publicly acknowledged his bias towards congress, so nothing surprising, but his blog, a.k.a. wish list, is not going to be fulfilled.

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    shoebk Reply:

    caste is a reality.castes were created by lord krishna so divine.u are small in numbers so u condemn.in thousands of years of stay u brhmns did not mix with indians.

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  • pankaj#1

    EU ambassadors, lifted boycott of Modi. World is perciving, sensing, next P.M. of India.
    BJP should not name Modi as PM, but made Chief of election campaign. If, BJP, on its own, come up with thumping majority, it can make Modi, PM. if, majority is only simple majority, then, allies will be needed, no point in annoying them beforehand. And, if it, does not get majority, even with allies, it is better to go with allies, as these allies are natural rivals of this corrupt UPA.

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  • pankaj#1

    A Classic Insult…
    Grl: Me Abhi-Abhi Beauty Parlour Se Aa Rahi Hoon…
    Boyfrnd: Arey !!!
    Aaj Bhi Band Tha Kya…???

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  • pankaj#1

    TEACHER: What u call your mummy ?
    STUDENT: Mum …
    TEACHER: Then what you call to your mummy big sis and small sis ?
    STUDENT: Miss so simple MAXIMUM and MINIMUM

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And when they are together, it becomes media!

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  • pankaj#1

    Every time I read this I laugh :)
    We know ,TAJ MAHAL as symbol of love but, lesser known facts are:
    1. Mumtaz was Shahjahan’s 4th Wife out of his 7 wives.
    (Great)
    … 2. Shahjahan killed mumtaz’s husband to marry her.
    (Excellent)
    3. Mumtaz died during her 14th delivery..
    (Wowwww)
    4. After her death Shahjahan married Mumtaz’s Sister.
    (Amazing)
    Where the hell is love?…
    Every time I read this I laugh :)
    We know ,TAJ MAHAL as symbol of love but, lesser known facts are:
    1. Mumtaz was Shahjahan’s 4th Wife out of his 7 wives.
    (Great)
    … 2. Shahjahan killed mumtaz’s husband to marry her.
    (Excellent)
    3. Mumtaz died during her 14th delivery..
    (Wowwww)
    4. After her death Shahjahan married Mumtaz’s Sister.
    (Amazing)
    Where the hell is love?…

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    engricn Reply:

    u are hate spewing brhmn that is all.builting taj mahal itself is sign of love.HINDU HOTI TO ZINDA LALA DE JATI.more than billion women were burnt alive by hindus in the name sati.another billion were used in temple as prostitute.THAT IS WHY INDIA IS THE ONLY COUNTRY WHERE NO.OF WOMEN IS LESS THAN MEN.i have 4 wives but i truly love only one.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Nikamme Baeta Engrich

    You keep four wives and I keep seven. In your case three men will have no women and because I keep seven wives, six men will be short of women.

    We must teach ll these men to

    a) Become jehadis and blow themselves up as suicide bombwers

    b) Keep doing handjobs for lack of women. You and ravi can do their handjob

    Meanwhile you and ravi should keep shouting Sharia so that more women come into our hands

    You Abbu
    NA_PAK Hafees

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Wah wah na pak ji

    engrich Reply:

    as per goverment survey bigamy is more rampant among hindus.why u have no love for millions of ur sisters selling their bodies for 2 meals a day invarious indian brothels.anyway i was joking.why u brhmns dont mix with moolnivasis.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Are you serious or is this a joke? I do remember reading about Mumtaz dying during her14th delivery – but Aurengazeb had only 3 brothers (all the ones he killed)..so did others die young? Other thamn Mumtaz’ death; everything else is news to me. Do you have a reference/link?

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Gopi;
    This is not a joke.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have also not heard these things. Everything is fair in love and war is perhaps true.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    the essence of the story is that one Aurangzeb was equal to 10 of his siblings, whom he made to disappear from the face of this earth.

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    engrich Reply:

    ur bhagwans and rulers killed thousands.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    aurangzeb wa also 25%of world land.only in his our gdp as more than gdp of china.rjputs and brhmns constitute 7&of india were holding 36%ministerial posts in his ministry.
    when brhmns joined hands with british robbers our gdp reduces to 1.8%of world.
    brhmns are real curse for india.they came india 3000 years ago but still refuse to mix.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    aurangzeb wa also ruling 25%of world land.only in his time our gdp was more than gdp of china.

    pls read first line as above.

    engrich Reply:

    ASHOKA KILLED HIS 99 BROTHERS.that was system.in geeta lord krishna ordered arjun to kill kauravs who were his cousins.

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    ronik das Reply:

    Do you Know why???

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Pankajji
    kya ajeeb dastaan hai …Maro kato muhabbat karo…maro kato..muhabbat kaho

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    engrich Reply:

    my awnser is removed.ur achievement is big zero.u never build any road hospital or infrastructure or any spectular building.so u people are jealous.hindu rulers used to had 100s.very recently i think maharaja patiala had around 100.now u people keep cuncubines and prostitutes.with taj goverment can make trillions of dollars.last wish of every american is to see taj before death.

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  • pankaj#1

    Aaj ki pyaari bat,

    Agar ek haara hua Insan harne ke bad bhi smile
    kare,

    … to
    jitnewala apni jeet ki khushi kho deta hai,
    .
    That is the POWER of SMILE.
    This advise is for the person, whose dimpled smile is famous.

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  • pankaj#1

    Brilliant Answers by a Student who got 0% Marks.. Q.1- In which battle did Tipu Sultan Died ?.. Ans.- In his Last Battle.. Q.2- Where was the Declaration of Independence Signed ?.. Ans.- At the Bottom of the Page.. Q.3- What is the Main Reason for Divorce ?.. Ans.- Marriage.. Q.4- Ganga Flows in which State ?.. Ans.- Liquid State.. Q.5- When was Mahatma Gandhi Born ?.. Ans.- On His Birthday.. Q.6- How will you Distribute 8 Mangoes among 6 People ?.. Ans.- By Preparing Mango Shake
    I feel, I read a person here, since last few years, whose, answers match these ones.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    ताज़ा वैज्ञानिक प्रयोग बताते हैं कि ऋषिकेश और गंगोत्री के गंगा
    जल में रोगाणुओं को मारने की क्षमता बरक़रार है. मगर कानपुर और इलाहाबाद में गंगा
    के पानी में जानलेवा बीमारी पैदा करने वाले जीवाणु जीवित हैं.

    लखनऊ के भारतीय विषविज्ञान अनुसंधान संस्थान यानी आईआईटीआर के वैज्ञानिकों के
    अनुसार कानपुर में बिठूर से शुक्लागंज तक गंगा के पानी की जाँच में पाया गया कि
    उसमें डायरिया, खूनी पेचिश और टायफाइड जैसी बीमारियाँ पैदा करने वाले जीवाणु मौजूद
    हैं.

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  • Nationalist

    Congress is a lost case .only Jd(u) and left parties can save the country from the evil design of Hinduvta forces determined to impose their Hindu, Hindi and Hindustan ideology on the nation.

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  • AshishC

    My comments have disappeared from this blog.. looks like my dig against the liberal arts types hit too close to home for comfort.

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    Gopi_Thomass Reply:

    I thought you were not an *** like me. Look in the previous blog.

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    Mandola Reply:

    Mein bhi aek *** ka panchi hoon

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    AshishC Reply:

    touche’

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    Anonymous Reply:

    your “arty” comments might have been misunderstood.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    What has been the biggest success story of the UPA ‘S Foreign
    Policy ? Indo-US Deal ? repatriation of Abu Jundal ? a better relationship with Aung suu Kyi ..neglected so far ? NO. For many in the country it is its success
    in running a campaign to defame overseas and organizing the boycott of Narendra Modi by foreign governments.

    The story in the Indian Express that Modi called on EUambassadors .. and allowed himself to be grilled by them ..appears to be in thesame league as the patently false mischievous and bordering on treachery .. on the coup attempt by Gen V K Singh.
    We shall see more such attempts to somehow derail the tidal wave building up in favour of NAMO in the country. and with some indulgence shown by the Supreme Court…. it is still very hopeful of succeeding

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This government with the help from media, bureaucracy, courts, lawyers
    will leave no stone unturned to stop Modi. He is the main hurdle who can stop them from comming back to power.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    The mischief of the Indian Express has been bared again. This is how the NDTV has reported NAMO’s meeting with the EU ambassadors
    ” Joao Cravinho, Ambassador of the European Union to India, said yesterday that Mr Modi had accepted a lunch invitation on January 7, and a range of issues, including the Gujarat riots were discussed. Mr Cravinho said the EU stressed on accountability for the riots, the reason they had boycotted Mr Modi for 10 years. ”
    to think that this was a newspaper which took on the might of Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi during their hey days under late Ramnath Goenka and Arun Shourie. Now a chamcha like Shekhar Gupta runs it.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Fully agree with you.

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  • Anonymous

    Drinkrs’ Gang-”Aaj tabtak piyenge, jab ak wo samne ke 3 ped 6 nahi dikhte!
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    Bar Owner- Bas Karo Kamino, Samne ek hi Ped Hai!
    Ab Kya Jungle Banaoge Kya?

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    AshishC Reply:

    rofl..
    seems like a story from my life; who shared this with you? Maybe we have common friends :D

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  • Anonymous

    Narendra Modi’s speech at SRCC has set the cat among the congress pigeons. The most worried, nail-biting people are the P and VP of the party. Here is what happened on the night Modi came to Delhi, saw the people and conquered India:

    Sonia Gandhi wanted to see her Rahul Baba urgently and just as she was about to enter his room, Ahmed Patel started crying ‘phoot phoot ke’, prompting the original ‘phoot phoot ke’, Salman Khursheed to follow suit.

    A bewildered, shocked Sonia Gandhi stopped in her tracks and asked Patel what happened.

    Ahmed Patel: Madamji, the last time you entered Baba’s room, you cried about the poison you are giving him etc and the next morning, we all were crying after hearing Baba narrate the heart rending story of a mother giving her son poison for the sake of the party. So when I saw you going to his room again, I was unable to stop crying (in advance).

    Sonia: But, why?

    Patel: Madam, ab ka khatra bahut badaa hai, hamare party ke uper Modi ka karaal chaya mandrane lagi hai aur ab lagta hai ki hamari haar nischit hai.

    Sonia: why should you cry for that?

    Patel: Madamji, party may lose, we know that. But what will happen to Baba? Once Modi becomes PM, he will stop at nothing to make the country strong and prosperous. And Baba will never get his chance. This is why I cried, phoot phoot ke.

    Sonia: Mat ro Patel, we will find something about Modi which will make him voluntarily withdraw from the race.

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  • Tandola

    The reverberations of Modi’s speech were felt far and wide. How far and wide can be judged by the fact that a new island was born in the south Pacific atoll of nikumaroro, the moment Modi’s speech finished. The islanders Khap is considering the possibility of naming the neonate island Hinduatva.

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  • engrich

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVe10jwZfAo&feature=youtu.be

    gopi /pankaj listen and learn something.

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    AshishC Reply:

    The stress of pretending to be someone you are not is showing.. kabhi Ravi ki angrezi/ kabhi Engrich ka. Asal mein kya, sab jaante hain!

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    Ravi Reply:

    Hermetically sealed obvious, remains obvious.

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    AshishC Reply:

    The fact is hermetically sealed; the subject is oblivious :)

    Ravi Reply:

    In this masquerade fancy dress party there are more guests than expected. The scene is Stanley Kubricesque (PBUH)

    AshishC Reply:

    After the rebuke from Vinay, I have stopped worrying about the non-obvious ones.
    Stanley Kubric, indeed!

    Ravi Reply:

    किस को पत्थर मारूं के सर कौन पराया है
    सीस महल में हर इक चेहरा अपना लगता है
    हम भी पागल हो जायें गे ऐसा लगता है

    Ustad Rais Khan sings this beautifully

    engrich Reply:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcjb0CwbIZ4

    thanks listen and enjoy

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    AshishC Reply:

    I am a MJA fanboy, thanks for sharing

    Anonymous Reply:

    One of the most honest intellectual giant amongst the dishonest tribe of mediamen.

    engrich Reply:

    parde mein rhne do prda na uthao

    parda jo yth gaya to raaz khul jaega.

    Asal mein kya, sab jaante hain! ………kya jante hain.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    MjA is wrong, may be it was a slip of tongue when he said “Gandhi wanted a country with Hindu majority” in a way equivocating to “Jinnah wanted a country with Muslim majority”

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    engricn Reply:

    gandhi brought religion in public life of india.not jinnah.india was partitioned by britishers.muslims were utterly opposed to this.but under muslims hindu can live,under hindus muslims cannot live.hindu system is vertical,we have horizental system.everybody is equal.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ram – say anything you want. Jinnah wanted to pierce through the heart of the motherland (of course Muslims do not have the concept of motherland; ie Vandematharam controversy)..Now, based on what is happening all over the world, a division/partition would have happened anyway, if not then ; later. There would have been bloodshed, but I think had it happened after 20 years, the bloodshed would have been less because of the better army/police/BSf etc situation. History cannot be changed; and history need not be repeated. I feel quite sad that the saint who preached “ahimso paramo dharma” had to see humanity at its worst in Punjab and Naokholo; that when nehru was giving his usual bull—, the man was walking in the blood of the people for whom he strived; Indians butchered because of the scam artist and schemer

  • Anonymous

    Narendra Modi’s classic reposte to the Chinese interpreter who had asked him whether India still remained a country of snalke charmers, “India now is a country of mouse charmers”, the congress spokesperson made the snide remark that it was Rajiv Gandhi who brought computers to India.

    Now, To reinforce the claim that computers were brought to India by Rajiv Gandhi, the government has asked all computer manufacturers to put “Brought in by Congress” label on their products selling in India.

    Since India has failed to become a manufacturing hub and most of the computers/laptops among other things are made in China these days, the effective label will read “Made in China. Now in India. Brought in by Congress.”

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  • Anonymous

    Narendra Modi’s classic reposte to the Chinese interpreter who had asked him whether India still remained a country of snalke charmers, “India now is a country of mouse charmers”, the congress spokesperson made the snide remark that it was Rajiv Gandhi who brought computers to India.

    Now, To reinforce the claim that computers were brought to India by Rajiv Gandhi, the government has asked all computer manufacturers to put “Brought in by Congress” label on their products selling in India.

    Since India has failed to become a manufacturing hub and most of the computers/laptops among other things are made in China these days, the effective label will read “Made in China. Now in India. Brought in by Congress.”

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  • Amar

    Bhopal : Parents of raped, killed girl ‘forced’ to live in loo

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Bhopal/Parents-of-raped-killed-girl-forced-to-live-in-loo/Article1-1008428.aspx

    This family of four – which also includes an infant – has been shifted
    two days ago by the administration in the ‘Jan Suvidha Sulabh Kendra’ at
    Om Nagar. When HT reached the place, the stink made it unbearable to
    even stand for five minutes.

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  • Anonymous

    PAK CLERICS ISSUE “FATWA” ON TERROR
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    A group of 50 prominent Pakistani clerics on Thursday issued a fatwa that states the killing of innocent people, targeted killings and suicide bombings are UN-ISLAMIC.

    The Sunni Ittehad Council, an alliance of religious parties, said the fatwa unanimously condemned all forms of terrorism…..New Indian Express.

    Now, I am sure engrich and fake Ravi will be driven out of their jobs.

    No terror attacks, no jihad, no killing of Hindus……..

    Back to the dole line.

    Sorry dear jihadis. This had to happen some day.

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    gomez Reply:

    Are Tehrik-e-Taliban members also covered under this fatwa?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The New York times report posted by Binoy talked about Pakistani police and army providing security to Hafees saeed. So nothing changes for Pakistan.

    the clerics will not comment about the killing their terrorists do outside of Pakistan. Indian Express might be doing wishful thinking.

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    hargobind chukkal Reply:

    establish enquiry commission subit some proof to court executive will take action.

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    hargobind chukkal Reply:

    there is no hindu killing in pakistan.fatwa or no fatwa war against occupation will continue.

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  • vijay !

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    ~~~ PANIC SETS IN CONGRESS CAMP!!~~ sab Modi se darr gaye !!!~~~

    ————————————————————————————————————-

    I had a rather interesting afternoon.

    France is the official partner of the Delhi world book fair and I was at lunch with some French people– writers and their embassy staff. I am NOT a known guy in this literary field but my agent feels that I have some potential and I don’t mind playing along– and even pretend to look more serene and intelligent than I actually am.

    Now as expected an Indian writer, also a newspaper columnist– to sound intellectual and probably to prove his bleeding heart credentials– barged into the conversation I was having with a rather delicate French lady– and announced that ” We Indians need the help of French intelligentsia to combat the dark forces like Modi …”

    This French lady– who really would not have known the difference between Narendra Modi and Ibrahim Lodhi– looked at me for support.

    ” The French have banned the Burka and turban, ” I suggested lightly, ” So they too need our help.”

    But our writer friend started of on the whole story of Narendra Modi with Engrich style folk tales. Of course that ended my prospect of a post lunch conversation with the lady, but more importantly– spelt out the dark reality.

    THAT THERE IS A FULL INDUSTRY SPINNING MYTHS ABOUT THE NEGATIVES OF GUJARATIS AND MODI.

    That the Indians are willing to denigrate themselves before foreigners just to send the message that we are a failed state without the Congress dynastic succession.

    I think the BJP needs to factor this in when they project Modi becasue Tehelka, the NGO’s, the Teestas, the Gulam Nabi Fai and Ang- nanga chaterjis will go all over the world to denigrate Modi and they wont care a damn even if the lie about India and smash brand India.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    You can find few people here as well, who will fit the description you gave.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Yes I an see that !! Its funny… so if you are dissatisfied in life— if you are too short or too tall or too thin or too fat… its Narendra Modi to blame!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I find it strange that Ravi and Engrich even made light of Hafis Saeed and his terror war against India.

    Just shows where their heart and mind lies.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    You are having too much of fun. You should eat shaadi ka ladoo and then enjoy Ghar ki daal. Did you sign Indo-French friendship treaty?

    Yes you are right about the potential of Indian vested interests to make noise internationally to win a fight in India.

    However Modi too has to wash of the Togadia’s out of his menu.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    French love foreplay, but not so much that they would forget the real action. Next time focus on the main act.

    Your headline, then little chuckle about literary agent eventually end up like a wet chinese bomb.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well main point is are you okay with the idea of Indians going all over the world to drumbeat myths even if they end up hurting the image of India?

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Are you talking about the CAG ?

    vijay ! Reply:

    CAG too is exceeding his brief if he wants to lampoon India in front of the world– outside India. In case he talks about how he got in fiscal responsibility and created channels of efficient public fund management, then he can use an international platform

    devduttkumar Reply:

    He is trying to create a believable story for his press conference during CWG in front of the World Media.

    Now even the court does not believe him anymore. People are just respecting the institution.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well all real life stories dont have dramatic ends!

    As you had threatened a desperate Congress– Mrs Renuka Chaudhary supposedly close to NTR once– bought up the issue of a woman Modi did NOT marry.

    Do you think we should also discuss the case of the right of the Nehru bloodline thru Sharda mata. The ex editor of HT, Shri Khushwant Singh had discussed this issue in this very paper once.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Modi DID not marry ! You are spinning out of the fulcrum. Watch out !

    T series owner Gulshan spent lot of money on temples. But he would always remain a simple audio cassette pirate.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well remember there are many other fulcrums. The original Hindu saints llike Dhirendra Brahmchari and of course historians like MO Mathai who wrote mysterious chapters.

    Then if the Congress says Pragya Tahkur, we have Sadhvi Sharda Mata…

    And so on…

    vijay ! Reply:

    also the juice shop owner and COngress financier.

  • pankaj#1

    Narendra Modi is anti-women, can’t spell agriculture: Congress
    Ha Ha

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  • pankaj#1

    Does CAG Vinod Rai intend to become PM, asks Digvijay Singh
    Ha Ha; diggy feeling uncomfortable?

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Vinod Rai wondered if an auditor must limit himself to auditing and submitting the report. Digvijay just reminded that an Accountant always stays as an accountant.

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    AshishC Reply:

    Digvijay remains … ah well, let that pass..

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    He is the only one with his ears on the ground. His evaluation of people and politicians have been proved to be right in last 4 years,.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes his ear is on the ground below sonia feet and his tongue is licking the feet.

    AshishC Reply:

    Too bad he does not go public with his evaluation of Rahul Gandhi

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    why Devdutt?
    We just saw that an Economist is a PM since last 8 years.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    When the CAG joins politics, he is welcome to be the PM.

    When is he coming to politics ?

    He will not be the first one to join politics. There was a CAG who too joined politics. He talked about Bofors. And he joined politics.

    You want to know which party ?

  • pankaj#1

    Information and broadcasting minister Manish Tewari today said in Chennai that he wondered why chief minister Narendra Modi could not stand up and take responsibility (of 2002 Gujarat riots) as it happened under his watch rather than India being subjected to these homilies from foreign countries.
    Ha, so that Rahul Baba’s path become clear.
    why MMS does not own all the scams and rapes, as they happened under his watch.

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    vin0059 Reply:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-LduPZvmE

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  • Anonymous

    Growth slows down significantly; Congress diverts the attention to Vishwaroopam, Praveen T, Modi 2002/SRCC…

    “The economic growth in the current fiscal year would be its weakest in a decade.
    GDP is estimated to grow 5% in the year ending March 31, weaker than the previous year’s growth of 6.2% and down sharply from the 9%+ growth rate recorded early in 2011.

    The main cause is the slow pace of infrastructure development due to bureaucratic hurdles and policies unfriendly to business, economists say. Elevated interest rates to tackle persistently high inflation,also hurt growth prospects, economists say.

    Observers say a growth rate of 5% is not enough to develop a country in which 30% of the people are poor, and 13 million people reach working age every year.

    “Unless the economy is able to create more jobs, we will see the risk of social unrest continue to rise” said an economist with the Eurasia group.

    Some economists were surprised by India’s weak growth estimate. Less than 2 months ago the finance ministry predicted 5.8% expansion in the year to end in March..

    However, Finance Minister Chidambaram said “we have taken and will continue to take appropriate measures to revive growth” (????? )

    Thursday’s data show growth in manufacturing and farm output is expected to slow from the year earlier. Another concern is slowdown in service-sector, which amounts over 60% of india’s GDP.
    Economists expressed concern that the slowdown was getting more generalized; with investments and consumption suffering”

    Terrible news.. Time to summarily fire the mother, son, and the silent Guru.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Two and half years of policy freeze and uncertainties beginning late 2010 had its impact on the economic growth.

    But we must feel happy. India had two and half years of enlightening experience with the anti-corruption movement, Lokpal movement, launch of new young political outfits,

    Sometimes one must take a break and enjoy good things in life. We had tremendous TV time. Let’s savour that.

    The recent economic push will have desired effect sometime next year, but might get delayed again because of the forthcoming election.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt-

    Are these mutually exclusive? As they say in the west, couldn’t we walk and chew gum at the same time? How does a popular anti-corruption movement stand in the way of promulgating pro growth bills/policies?

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Things happen here sequentially. You must heard people abusing the PM not attending to people at Janpath immediately. That was supposed to be the national priority. Everybody wanted a law in “3 days” flat, without any debate as per Anna and Kejriwal’s demand.

    We Indians are still monogamous. To a very very large extent.

  • Anonymous

    Jesse Jackson Jr, a member of Congress (like MP in India) from the Chicago area will be sent to jail on the charge of misusing campaign contributions to personal benefit. His father, Jesse JAckson Sr was (and is) an influential member of the Democratic party.

    If he goes to jail, he follows so many other influential and important political figures who were sentenced and sent to jail in this country — Bogovich (governor of Illinois – Gov is like CM in india), Ryan 9another Gov of illinois), Spirow Agnew (VP), Congressman traffican, congressman Wilbur mills….

    Democracy means accountable politicians and institutions of repute and integrity.

    Hope India will get there one of these days.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy-

    I have not visited this blog for a while; seems the usual suspects are busy – What happened to Manohar, Rizwan etc

    Regarding your comment on democracy and institutions – we are still a young democracy compared to USA. The indicatiors and trends point to us becoming a strong democracy with solid institutions- it is not a question of if, but when. A growing economy and a confident middle class will force the needed changes.

    I think USA, more than any other democracy, had a foundational advantage in their perennial quest and exploration of the meaning of liberty, happiness, equality etc putting that country on a strong democratic platform.

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    vinoo69 Reply:

    Stop it Ravi, the joke has now gone stale

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  • shoebk

    Brahmins were meat eaters

    Now let us further see what are the laws contained in the Manu’s code and how far they are just and fair. The
    courts decide matters strictly conforming to the laws laid down in the
    Manu’s code, forgetting the fact that the Manu’s code is mainly intended
    to make a particular community (Brahmins) prosperous.

    Origin: Brahma is the creator of the Manu Dharma. Later it was strictly disclosed by him to rishis. (Chap.1.S.59).

    Atheists: Vedas and Dharma sastras should not be questioned or debated. He who does so will be considered an atheist (Chap.2.S.11).

    Such an atheist who blames the vedas will be considered as accuser of god. (ibid).

    Brahmins should not disclose this Manu Dharma Sastra to any other people. (Chap.1.S.103).

    A King’s duty is to excommunicate the gamblers, actors, musicians,
    bad elements, those who defy the vedas and rituals, those who change
    their trades, and those who are found to consume intoxicating drinks.
    (Chap.9 S.226).

    Division by birth: To safeguard the world, Brahma,
    created the Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas and Sudras from his face,
    shoulders, thighs, and feet respectively and evolved different duties
    and responsibilities for each section separately. (Chap.1.S.87).

    Because a Brahmin is born in the face of Brahma, because he is born
    of the highest caste, he alone has the right to receive and enjoy the
    wealth and property of all other castes and communities. (Chap.1.S.100).

    Pride in begging: Even if a Brahmin begs for alms
    and receives help he eats his own. He wears his own clothes. He donates
    his own property. Others enjoy such things only at the mercy of
    Brahmins. (Chap 1.S.101).

    Even if a Sudra were to do the work of a Brahmin, he will not become a
    Brahmin, because he has no right to do the work of a Brahmin.

    Even if a Brahmin were to do the work of a Sudra, a Brahmin will not
    become a Sudra, because even if he does a low work, he belongs to the
    highest caste. (Chap.10.S.73).

    Brahmins once non-vegetarians: All sorts of dishes as Vadai, Payasam and tasty flesh and sweet smelling waters are for the Brahmins. (Chap.5.S.227).

    A Brahmin could eat any living being every day for the sake
    of his health. There is no sin attached to Brahmins eating the flesh of
    living beings. (Chap.5.S.30).

    Particulars are given in the Manu Sastra, to please the dead forefathers by offering meat. Felsh of different birds and animals were also offered by Brahma to please god for different periods. Here are the details:

    (1) Paddy, rice, water, black gram, roots and fruits satisfy the dead
    for one month. (2) Fishes please the dead of two months. (3) Stag’s
    flesh pleases the dead for 3 months. (4) Goat’s flesh pleases the dead
    for 4 months. (5) Bird’s flesh pleases the dead for 5 months. (6)
    Whitegoat’s flesh pleases the dead for 6 months. (7) Reindeer’s flesh
    pleases the dead for 7 months. (8) Black stag’s flesh pleases the dead
    for 8 months. (9) Kalaiman flesh pleases the dead for 9 months. (10)
    Flesh of porcupine, pig, bison, pleases the dead for 10 months. (11)
    Flesh of rabbit, tortoise pleases the dead for 11 months. (12) Cow’s
    milk, curd, ghee, pleases the dead for 1 year. (13) A male goat’s flesh
    pleases the dead for 12 years. (14) With vegetables grown in the season,
    a fish variety valai, flesh of a red coloured lamb, rice grown in
    forest lands, please the dead eternally.

    In the month of Purattasi after the full moon on the 13th
    day, if honey, and Payasam are offered to the dead, that offering gives
    them full satisfaction. (Chap3.S.267 to 273).

    If the Brahmin refuses to eat the flesh offered at the ceremonies he will be born as a cow 21 times. (Chap5.S.35).

    A Sudra should be away from the house on the day of the performance of the ceremonies. (Chap.3.S.242).

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is not me; do not have a clue about what he is saying, whom does it represent, and what does it mean n today’s world.

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  • vin0059

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-LduPZvmE

    great tape

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This jihadi, engrich truly needs to follow Afzal Guru.

    After destroying Zia-ul-Haq’ blog, he is now out to destroy Vinod Sharma’s blog, by adopting fake IDs and attempting impersonation.

    It has to be recalled here that this jihadi **** was thrown outr by Vinod SHarma earlier too when he posted anti-Hindu verbiage of unspeakable filth, under his most infamous ID, Ram Autar and Tajender.

    Now once again, time has come to throw this **** out.

    I am sure, Vinod Sharma will not baulk at applying the surgery.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    half the fake ID postings are by Ravi now. But this fake NA -Pak hafees is definately a real class act.

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    RajeevS Reply:

    This video is full of lies.
    Dr Togadia ji is a very good speaker, he should go to SRCC.
    Every one knows Nathu Ram did NOT kill appeaser Gandhi.
    Every one knows that young Sadhus are very sexy
    Every one knows Shaban azmy is a woman lover
    Only Muslims in Bharat practice ISEST.

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    vin0059 Reply:

    qadr ullu kee ullu janta hai

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  • Anonymous

    why does God take young good people away?

    Rahul Cherian,the founder of InclusivePlanet and a leading advocate for the rights of handicapped, passed away yesterday at the age of 38.

    Three years ago, I attended a speech he gave on the relevance of Mahathma Gandhi in today’s India and world. I was surprised that we had Gandhians

    among the young.

    He leaves behind his young wife Anjana, his parents Dr George and Ammini Cheriyan, and a younger brother.

    RIP Rahul!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    it is truly a sad event. Our country is poorer by his death.

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  • Anonymous

    President Mukherjeee rejected the mercy plea and AfJzal Guru has been hanged at Tihar Jail this morning.
    Welcome decision.
    J&K CM was also taken into confidence.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Next is the turn of engrich.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ha!

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    engrich Reply:

    no modi or amit shah

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    safronKachha Reply:

    Ghor sannata…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ghor sannata hai to kya hua?

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    safronKachha Reply:

    Kuchh ho gaya…isliye sannata…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Modi ke darr se COngress ne action liya

    safronKachha Reply:

    Lagta Modi ne sabko daraake rakha hai !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Darr ne se better hai ki Congress performacne improve kare-e and gets better candidate than Baby.

    safronKachha Reply:

    Modi ka darr sabko pata rehna chahiye.

  • Anonymous

    Punjab school boycotts gang-rape victim

    CHANDIGARH: A 14-year-old victim of gang rape in Bathinda, facing boycott by her government school, peers and neighbours, has written to the Punjab state women commission in details that have shocked its officials. The letter, a copy of which is with TOI, begins with the girl referring to herself as “a wretched member of society”.

    “Benti hai mere badnaseeb nadaan kudi walo… je mai apne naal hoye ais atyachar da badla lawa…ta mainu ki sammanit kiya jayega (Would I be honoured if I, an innocent little girl, were to take revenge for the crime against me),” the letter begins.

    The letter was sent on February 2 to the National Commission for Women (NCW), nearly three months after she was gangraped, on October 14 last year, in Ramphura Phul tehsil of Bathinda. She was stopped from going to the senior government school in Bhagta Bhai due to ostracism. An FIR was filed on October 20 and six accused were arrested.

    The girl writes in detail how her dreams to scale new heights in academics and become a panchayat head are now shattered. “Main class eight ch padi si, par kudrat noo mera agge padna manzoor nahi si (I was studying in class eight but destiny did not favour me),” she wrote.

    “The SHO refused to attend to my father’s complaints for six days until there was some intervention by a local leader who watched the news on TV,” the letter said.

    She even invokes the Akal Takht, seeking intervention from the priests. “Hai koi Guru Nanak da Sikh, je mainu wapis mera khoya zameer ta bachpan dila sakda” (Is there a Sikh in this state, who can help me get my pride and childhood).” The letter concludes with the girl signing herself off as ‘zinda laash’.

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  • Anonymous

    Narendra Modi feted by European Union.

    They say let us forget the past and start doing business as before.

    Italy and the Vatican notable absentees from the luncheon hosted by the German Ambassador in honour of Narendra Modi.

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    safronKachha Reply:

    Chalo dus saal sahi…Pappu toh paas ho gaya !

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  • Anonymous

    Afzal hanged becasue of Modi scare:

    Congress probably hanged Afzal Guru as they could see the march of Modi and wanted to show that it was also against terror.

    However there is a disturbing news comign in in the Indian express. That UFO’s — maybe drones– were seen over Relaince factory close to the **** borders.

    Possibly ISI and Hafees saeed back to their old games again. We have seen fools — even on this blog– and smoe outside like Digivjay — being deferential to Hafees saeed.

    Time we killed him with our drones.

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    safronKachha Reply:

    Modi scare caused heavy rain last week..

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    safronKachha Reply:

    My car broke down because of Modi scare.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hafeez Saeed will take advantage of this..

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    Modi scare made Rajnikant jump from a 30 storey building

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    Modi scare stopped a cow from delivering in Gurgaon.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It delivered an engrich instead

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    A dog at a lamp post near hanuman mandir seemed to have got into a time wrap becsuse of Modi scare.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He pissed on a jehadi ****…while celeberatign Guru’s death.

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  • safronKachha

    Feb 3, 2013: President Pranab Mukherjee rejects Afzal Guru’s mercy petition

    Feb 9, 2013: Afzal Guru hanged in Tihar Jail.

    ====
    Not Bad !!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am really amazed at how our government is able to keep certain secrets iron tight. In Guru’s hanging and in Ajmal Kasab hanging, they did a good job of everything secret until the hanging occurred. They deserve credit

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    safronKachha Reply:

    Good work.

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    engricn Reply:

    i fully agree as well.

    Ravi Reply:

    I disagree, it should have been NaMo

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Gopi ..The dinner was burnt but the plates were clean …. let us rejoice.

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    engrich Reply:

    .narsimharao demolished mosque finished their
    main election point,pranab jee ne to bilkul hee kam kar diya.main mudda
    hee khatam kar diya.dono ko phansee de dee.
    afzal guru must have been hng long ago.modi aur amit shah may be next.economic plan dene kee aql nahin hai.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    you are right. Shinde has become an expert hangman. It is rumoured that the US is sending Kerry to learn the methods of secret hanging of terrorists.

    So, if you find, one fine morning, that the postings from multiple fake IDs on this blog have stopped, you can take it that it must be engrich who is getting packed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Engrich, like his handlers, dont know limits..

    AshishC Reply:

    Only thing they are unable to hide is the dumbness of the prince

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish

    You are making a drunken CA dressed in a three piece after a shareholders conference, laugh and laugh in the MOST UN-corporate, UN accountant-able style!

    Anonymous Reply:

    ROFL

  • Anonymous

    Is Prof Geelani still in jail or dead?

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    News Reports say Namo is to got to Allahabad for KumbhSnan. .This how he can make it memorable .. catch the Prayagraj Express from PF No 16 New Delhi Rly Station…. reach Allahabad around 0615 h. Go to Sangam for Snan.. then darshan at Badey Hanumanji .. breakfast of Jalebi dahi.. go to Company Bagh and pay floral tributes to Shaheed Chandrashekar Azaad .. go to LokNath for Nirala ki Chaat… get Hari ke Samose packed ..visit Bharti Bhawan .. a library established by Pt Madan Mohan Malviya.. visit Allahabad University ..get Netram’s balushahi packed ….. it has been a long day .. he may want to go for laghushanka .. go to Anand Bhawan….. Catch the Prayagraj Express from PF No 1 and come back to Delhi… back to work.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It will be a master stroke if he can visit Aligarh Muslim university and BHU and do a SRCC speech exhorting new India, development…

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Yes Gopi ..it would be good but the Grand Muftis of Secularism may not allow it to happen.

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  • Anonymous

    Saffron

    Pti and ndtv report that congressis were so scared of modis srcc perfomance that any cant get it up

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  • Anonymous

    It is rumoured that Hafiz Saeed had got info about the hanging at 3AM.

    It is also rumoured that he rang up Shinde, his new and closest friend, asking him NOT to go ahead with the noose.

    Here is the dialogue, ‘rumoured’ to have taken place.

    HS: Shinde Saheb, main Hafiz, aap ka dost bol raha hoon.

    SS: Mera dost Hafiz from Mumbai police from my constable days is long dead.

    HS: Nahin, nahin, main wohi jihadi hoon jo aap ka naya naya dost ban gaya hai.

    SS: Haan, haan, ab yaad aaya, bolo kya haal hai aap ka?

    HS: haal waal sub chhodiye, mera mashwara suniye, yeh hanging banging mat kariye, yah aap ke liye behtar nahin hoga.

    SS: Beta Hafiz, deko, yah Modi ka zamana hai, hum ab vote bank ke taraf nahin dekh sakte hain. Waise bhi, ab hamara vote bank hamara hi nahin raha, sabhi chor luteron ne isse baant liya hai.

    Aur ek baat Hafiz Bhai. Iss barey mein aage se aap mujhe phone mat kariye. Shukriya. Khuda Hafiz.

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  • Anonymous

    Ravi has disappeared. Was he afzal blogging from tihar?

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    engrich Reply:

    http://tehelka.com/death-games-that-politicians-play/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    lets hope and pray it was not him

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  • Anonymous

    Reading “The Unraveling: Pakistan in the Age of jihad” by John R Schmidt an expert on Pakistan (analyst as well as a long time diplomatic staff)

    A few excerpts:

    “what is true is that despite the universal condemnation that followed thw Mumbai atatck, the Pakistanis declined to move resolutely against the Lakshar.They simply did not want to sactrifice the only real card they had left to play in Kashmir. Lakshar’s cadres numbered more than 20,000 trained militants, most of them from Punjabi heartland. The army was frankly afraid of it.———————————————————————————————————-
    The Pakistani army has the resources to keep its Taliban at bay, but probably not to fully defeat them. They and their Al Queda and Punjabi Taliban allies can keepthe domestic terrorism campaign in motion for yers to come.However, although these groups are capable of causing mayhem, they remain far too few in number to threaten the survival of the regime, l alone teh state.

    However, that will change under one condition.: if the LeT finalluy decided to join them………Even if the LeT refrains from running against the state, it still retains the ability to carry out future Mumbai type attacks, any one of which could lead to a war between Pakistan and India that could go nuclear or otherwise end in Pakistan’s defeat.
    Equally worrisome is the continuing proliferation of radical mosques and madrasas in the country – facilities that already number in thousands. These serve as feeder institutions for radical Deobandi groups, but the Pakistanis fear the conswquences ogf moving against them. The storming of Lal Masjid in the summer of 2007 showed just how dangerous a single such attempt could be. What would happen if they tried to storm or shut down by other means a hundred or thousand Lal Masjids/ Pakistani army leaders are not anxious to find out.
    So, where is all this going to end? ………The problem is that the forces of radical Islam are so deeply entrenched within Pakistan that they cannot be completely routed out, even if the politicians and army finally decide to try. Although these forces will probabbly not be able to seize power any time soon, they will continue to pose a threat, not only to Pakistan, but to india and the erst of the world.

    We will probably see an end to it only when the radical Islamic ferment that has roiled the Muslim world for the past three decades finally comes to something like an end. No one can say when that will be” .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The author has written the real situation about Pakistan. It will be very difficult, almost impossible to stop radical Islam which has spread

    all over the country.

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  • Anonymous

    Fascinating reaading Gopi. It is in the interest of fhe world that pakistan is decimated.

    I also pray thatt ravi has not been hanged as he entertains us with his excuses for sharia, jehad ,pakistan and hafses.

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  • pankaj#1

    Thought I will take leave of this blog for today at least. Could not resist in doing this copy and paste. This is coming from mouth of vice chancellor of a Pakistani University?? Samjh main nahin Aata: main ro,oon ya hasoon??
    Vice Chancellor Prof Dr Mohammad Akram Chaudhry, on the occasion, said that Urdu was one of the most widely spoken languages of the world. He said Bollywood movies had become immensely popular when producers and directors stared making films in Urdu. They used to make films in Hindi, Gujrati, Tamil and other local languages, Dr Chaudhry said, but they weren’t popular.

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    A pakistani real beauty thought my “urdu” was surprisingly good. I told her I was speaking in hindi that most of country men spoke. She was truely surprised.

    I am not surprised.

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  • Anonymous

    May be we are maturing as a democracy.. It is great that we did not have any disturbances across the country in celebration for or protest against Afzal’s hanging.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There were few small incidents witnessed, one at Jantar Mantar at
    Delhi and in Srinagar. Overall everyone has taken this news calmly.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    yes, and I think they were mostly incidents involving students from Kashmir. It will be great for the country as long as it stays like that .It is a good indication that on larger issues all are together, although there are always small noises like Vishwaroopam, Rushdie etc. In fact, even those noises may be caused by the shnanigans and calculations of politicians, rather than any genuine feelings of religious offence. The sooner the country gets out of those nonsense and work for development and progress of all – a ka Modi style – the better for all of us.

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  • Anonymous

    tHIS ONE IS FOR THE BLOG JIHADIS ENGRICH AND FAKE RAVI:

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    Anonymous Reply:

    real funny cartoon

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    engrich Reply:

    joker can post jokers.72 virgins is in christinity not in islam.sheoyv is jahil joker.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Funny part is the UK government refused all these virgins a visa after the virginity test as they found out that they had been ******** around with the devil.

    saffronKachha Reply:

    Correct. That devil from Gujarat.

    saffronKachha Reply:

    Correct. That devil from Gujarat.

    SHENOYBV Reply:

    afzal guru is shown with rss hindu.

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    gopi_thomas Reply:

    afjal guru jansanghi ke saath.

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  • pankaj#1

    China discovered Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi far ahead of the rest of the international community. It seems Modi has been to China three or four times already. Curiously, RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat’s allergy to the Yellow Peril didn’t put off China. Nor did it dampen Modi’s enthusiasm to get acquainted with socialism with Chinese characteristics.

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  • Anonymous

    I am really worried about Ravi. No News about him yet. If Afzal was actually Ravi blogging from Tihar, then R I P….

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Vinoo I am also worried. He should have stopped jihad after being put in Tihar. Sad that he did not. I hope it was not him that was Afzal.

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  • vin0059

    फांसी से ठीक पहले अफजल गुरु ने क्या-क्या किया
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    अफजल ने कोई अंतिम इच्छा जाहिर नहीं की।नवभारतटाइम्स.कॉम | Feb 9, 2013, 05.30PM IST
    नई दिल्ली।। आतंकवादी
    अफजल गुरु को आखिरी वक्त तक यही लगता रहा कि उसे फांसी की सजा नहीं
    मिलेगी। उसे उम्मीद थी कि उसकी सजा उम्रकैद में तब्दील हो जाएगी। शनिवार
    सुबह जब उसे फांसी घर ले जाया गया, तब उसे एहसास हुआ कि उसका वक्त खत्म हो
    गया है। जानिए, कैसे गुजरे उसकी जिंदगी के आखिरी पल:-

    8 फरवरी,
    शुक्रवार को 5 बजे अफजल गुरु को बताया गया कि अगले दिन सुबह 8 बजे उसे
    फांसी दे दी जाएगी। यह सुनकर वह सन्न रह गया। उसे उम्मीद नहीं थी कि ऐसा
    होगा। क्योंकि, वह लगातार अपने परिजनों और वकीलों से अपनी सजा माफी कराने
    के बारे में मशवरा कर रहा था। उसे उम्मीद नहीं थी कि उसे इस तरह से एकदम
    फांसी हो जाएगी। शायद वह सोचता होगा कि कश्मीर में भावनाएं भड़कने के डर से
    सरकार उसे फांसी नहीं देगी या फिर उसकी सजा को उम्रकैद में तब्दील कर दिया
    जाएगा।

    पढ़ें: अफजल गुरु को फांसी, तिहाड़ जेल में दफनाया गया

    [ जारी है ]

    खबर देने के बाद जेल अधिकारियों ने इस दौरान अफजल पर पूरी नजर रखी कि कहीं
    टेंशन में आकर वह खुद को नुकसान न पहुंचा ले। इसके बाद शुक्रवार शाम को
    उसे फांसी घर (वह जगह, जहां फांसी दी जाती है) ले जाया गया, जो कि उसके सेल
    से करीब 30 कदमों की दूरी पर था। रास्ते में पड़ने वाले सेल्स से कैदियों
    को हटा दिया गया था, ताकि किसी को इस बात की भनक तक न लग सके।

    सूत्रों के मुताबिक फांसी घर में अफजल की हाइट मापी गई और वजन भी तौला गया।
    यह सब करना इसलिए जरूरी है, ताकि यह देखा जा सके कि फंदे की रस्सी उसका
    वजन सह सकती है या नहीं। इस दौरान भी अफजल गुरु हक्का-बक्का नजर आ रहा था।
    इसके बाद डॉक्टरों ने उसका ब्लड प्रेशर चेक किया। तमाम जरूरी चीजें चेक कर
    लेने के बाद अफजल को उसके सेल में भेज दिया गया। जेल अधिकारियों ने उससे
    पूछा कि अगर कोई चीज़ चाहिए हो तो बता दे। इस पर अफजल ने कहा कि उसे कुरान
    चाहिए। जेल अधिकारियों ने उसे याद दिलाया कि कुरान तो उसके पास पहले से ही
    है। इस बात से उसकी मानसिक स्थिति का अंदाजा लगाया जा सकता है। रात को
    अधिकारियों ने उससे अंतिम इच्छा के बारे में पूछा तो उसने कुछ नहीं बताया।
    खाने में भी उसने किसी चीज़ की फरमाइश नहीं की, लेकिन जेल अधिकारियों को
    पता था कि वह क्या पसंद करता है। ऐसे में उन्होंने अपनी तरफ से उसके डिनर
    में वह चीज़ें भिजवा दीं।

    शनिवार सुबह वह घड़ी आ पहुंची, जब अफजल
    को फांसी दी जानी थी। जब अधिकारी उसे लाने के लिए उसके सेल में दाखिल हुए,
    तो पता चला कि वह पहले से जगा हुआ था। उसका खाना भी जस का तस पड़ा था। इसके
    बाद वह नहाया और नमाज़ अता की। उसने कोई अंतिम इच्छा भी नहीं जताई। इसके
    बाद उसे दोबारा फांसी घर ले जाया गया। अब उसे यकीन हो चुका था कि अंत नजदीक
    है। फांसी देने वाला जल्लाद उसके पास आया और माफी मांगी। रवायत के मुताबिक
    फांसी देने से पहले जल्लाद कहता है कि वह अपनी इच्छा से जान नहीं ले रहा।
    इसके बाद जैसे ही घड़ी ने 8 बजाए, अफजल को फांसी पर लटका दिया गया। 5 मिनट
    बाद डॉक्टर सीढ़ियों से उतरकर फांसी के तख्ते के नीचे गए और उसकी नब्ज चेक
    की। इसके बाद उन्होंने 3 मिनट तक और इंतजार किया और दोबारा नब्ज देखने के
    बाद उसे मृत घोषित कर दिया।

    इस दौरान तक फांसी घर के सामने ही
    अफजल के लिए कब्र खोद ली गई थी। इस्लामिक रीति-रिवाजों के मुताबिक मौलाना
    की मौजूदगी में नमाज-ए-जनाजा पढ़ी गई और उसे दफन कर दिया गया

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  • Anonymous

    Congress Renuka chaudhry was gloating on TV.,

    She forgaot that ti was the scare of Narendra Modi’s speecch which had made the Congress act.

    Wonde rhwat will happen if Modi delivers 50 more speeches.

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    A deep fog seemed have descended at Delhi airport because of Modi scare.

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    The sun will rise two and half minute late because Modi scare

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    The night is about to get extended by 31 seconds because of Modi scare.

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    Ants were seen running towards east this evening because of Modi scare.

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    Agni missiles reported to have lost their altitude because of Modi scare.

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    Chinese were seen migrating to India enmass because of Modi scare.

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    Obama was reportedly to have signed up with Naga Akhada because of Modi scare.

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    All Gujrati married women reportedly have decided to take bath outside their homes in olen because of Modi scare.

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    Because of Modi scare, the Kiwi fruit trees have decided to shift to Gujarat from New Zealand, so that Modi can brag == The Kiwi fruit which the world eats comes from Gujarat.

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    Because of Modi scare, the pigeons in Gujarat have decided to observe sadbhavana fast everyday from 8.49 AM to 8.53 AM retrospectively from 2002.

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    I play SOLO. Don’t post under this ID.

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    Because of Modi’s speech, henceforth all the computers in Gujarat will run without power.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    because of Afzal Guru, a surrendered terrorist himself, all terrorists of the IM, JeM, LeT etc are going to surrender to the Laurel & Hardy team of Digvinashand Rahul baba.

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    Dumbhead, saffronKachha never say “Because” . Are you so dumb to see the pattern? Try all over again.

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    Never begins with “Because”

    vijay ! Reply:

    My God u guys are really scared of Modi.

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  • Anonymous

    CNN just showed that the Jehadists in Nigeria shot and killed 7 women polio vaccination workers …. quite similar to what they did in Pakistan last month!
    Allah must be pleased!

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    They did it because of Modi’s speech at the SRCC. Vinoo will vouch for it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    No, no, it is Afzal Guru who was hanged because of the fear of Modi taking over Delhi.

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    saffronKachha Reply:

    Post under your own ID.

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  • Anonymous

    It indeed is a sign of maturity, as Mohan and Gopi blogged yesterady, that Guru’s hanging did not result in riots or cheers.

    But I think the GOI has to do a communication campaign explaining why Guru case is different from other cases. Some of the Mullah leaders, such as Adruddun Huq in West Bengal, while not having any issue with the hanging, has raised an “equivalency” argument – why are people like Praveen Tagodia not hung . It is a dangerous argument; there is no equIvalency between what Guru did and what Praveen Tagodia may have done or not.

    GOI should publish and promote why Guru’s case is one of a kind – assaulting the core of our democracy, killing several in the process. The Mullahs argument will get cemented among the low information Muslim segments in the absence of this campaign

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The Mullahs of the old city have made similar statements. That coupled with the recent uttering of Owaisi can trigger bad stuff. Agree with the need for the explanation of the difference. between indiscriminate labeling

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    gopi thomas Reply:

    what he said can u tell me.

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    gopi thomas Reply:

    guru did not kill anybody.cbi blamed him for supplying logistics to terrorists in srinagar.charge which was rejected by 3 judge bench of delhi high court.so there no sense for hanging him after keeping him in jail for 8 years.
    decision is political,to hurt bjp.tagodia and his gang has killed thousands and openly give call for boycott of muslims.he knows hungry muslims will resort to terrorism.then he will the fees of his hospital by ten times.

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  • pankaj#1

    Modi now plays up new EU link, blog says got invite to attend Brussels session.
    This is muscular nationalism.
    Not like vinod writing, play it cool, otherwise Kashmir will burn. As if he wished it to burn. These situations make his kind of politics work. Seen many congressis practicing this kind of politics. Question was, is Afzal guru was guilty or not?? If yes, then, why this hesitation? All due process of laws were observed. Not for nothing, India is treated as a soft state and thus exploited by enemies. Indians and politicians, all have observed soleminity of occasion.

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  • Anonymous

    Afzal Guru was a terrorist by pesha, who surrendered to the J&K government and then worked for the attack on India though the parliament attack.

    He has accepted in various courts that he provided logistics to the terrorists who attacked the parliament as per the instructions of the Indian security forces!

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Conspiracy-theory-Was-due-process-flouted-to-deny-Afzal-Guru-a-bid-to-escape-hangman/articleshow/18425330.cms

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    engrich Reply:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/hindi/india/2013/02/130209_afzal_profile_pk.shtml

    things are otjher way around.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Are you disagreeing with the secular legal expert Manoj Mitta?

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    hargobind chukkal Reply:

    Online

    New Delhi, 9 February, 2013: Dr Zafarul-Islam
    Khan, President of All India Muslim Majlis-e Mushawarat (AIMMM), the umbrella
    body of Indian Muslim organizations, said here today in a press statement that
    Afzal Guru’s execution this morning was legally and morally unjustified and
    hasty. Guru did not get a fair trial in the first place. His repeated assertions
    that he was sent to Delhi from Srinagar by a certain named police officer in
    Srinagar were never heard or probed. At best, he was a secondary player. He did
    not take part in the actual attack. The final verdict too had other
    considerations as the Supreme Court itself said in its verdict, “The incident,
    which resulted in heavy casualties, had shaken the entire nation and the
    collective conscience of the society will only be satisfied if capital
    punishment is awarded to the offender.”

    Dr Khan further said that it has been known to
    the political class and the media for years that the public opinion in the
    Valley is enraged by this trial and the verdict and there is real risk of the
    revival of militancy as a result of Guru’s execution. As such, I think it was
    reckless on the part of the Indian government to have taken this highly risky,
    hasty and dubious step which is akin to the execution in 1983 of Maqbool Bhat on
    a crime committed by others thousands of miles away in Britain but the hasty
    execution eventually led to ignite the militancy in the Valley of Kashmir.

    Dr Khan added that today’s reckless act is part
    of the political game Congress is playing to outdo VHP/BJP’s Hindutva and
    security planks. This also shows that a rank politician should never be elevated
    to the position of the President of India. We condemn this execution and
    consider it short-sighted and hasty

    Anonymous Reply:

    When Afzal himself has admitted that he provided logistical support to the terrorists in their attack on the parliament house, where the question of his not getting justice?

    “AFZAL GURU, WHO IS A SURRENDERED TERRORIST AND WHO WAS BENT UPON REPEATING THE ACTS OF TREASON AGAINST THE NATION, IS A MENACE TO THE SOCIETY AND HIS LIFE SHOULD BECOME EXTINCT”

    This is what the supreme court said in its verdict confirming death sentence awarded to Afzal.

    hargobind chukkal Reply:

    bullshit.he did not kill any body so why to hang him.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Let us hang Hafees saeed and Owaisi instead. no?

    engrich Reply:

    in india and hindu raj everything is possible.

    hargobind chukkal Reply:

    Online

    New Delhi, 9 February, 2013: Dr Zafarul-Islam
    Khan, President of All India Muslim Majlis-e Mushawarat (AIMMM), the umbrella
    body of Indian Muslim organizations, said here today in a press statement that
    Afzal Guru’s execution this morning was legally and morally unjustified and
    hasty. Guru did not get a fair trial in the first place. His repeated assertions
    that he was sent to Delhi from Srinagar by a certain named police officer in
    Srinagar were never heard or probed. At best, he was a secondary player. He did
    not take part in the actual attack. The final verdict too had other
    considerations as the Supreme Court itself said in its verdict, “The incident,
    which resulted in heavy casualties, had shaken the entire nation and the
    collective conscience of the society will only be satisfied if capital
    punishment is awarded to the offender.”

    Dr Khan further said that it has been known to
    the political class and the media for years that the public opinion in the
    Valley is enraged by this trial and the verdict and there is real risk of the
    revival of militancy as a result of Guru’s execution. As such, I think it was
    reckless on the part of the Indian government to have taken this highly risky,
    hasty and dubious step which is akin to the execution in 1983 of Maqbool Bhat on
    a crime committed by others thousands of miles away in Britain but the hasty
    execution eventually led to ignite the militancy in the Valley of Kashmir.

    Dr Khan added that today’s reckless act is part
    of the political game Congress is playing to outdo VHP/BJP’s Hindutva and
    security planks. This also shows that a rank politician should never be elevated
    to the position of the President of India. We condemn this execution and
    consider it short-sighted and hasty

    engrich Reply:

    bbc usually publish truth.u people publish fictions.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Utter nonsense and total bakwas. It is full of jihadi hero worship. Nothing else.

    BBC should desist from publishing such fiction.

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  • Anonymous

    Some people are raising the point why Guru was given death sentence since he didn’t kill anybody.

    It’s a rarest of rare case. How ?

    The terrorists attacked the Indian parliament. It was like hitting the country at its core. This brought two countries almost to a nuclear war. Had it happened, hundreds of thousands would have died.

    Any such act that could have caused such a devasted act must attract the severest punishment under the law.

    Guru’s act, if true as proved by the prosecution is true deserves such punishment.

    Hope people see the point and desist from meaningless debate.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree with you. He got what he deserved.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    I would agree with you. Afzal deserved the death penalty from day 1.

    Sad fact was the Congress was too scared of awarding the penalty because

    a) It felt that its leaders would become vulnerable to personal attacks by terrorists– i.e the scare factor

    The way former naukerani Pratibha devi Patil sat over the file for four years it had to be instructions from her mistress Sonia G. Sheila DIxit’s excuse that she was too busy to look into the file and then also the plea that the execution will lead to violence just revealed the coward’s streaK

    DARR KE JEENA TOH MAUT SE BHI BADTAR HAI….

    b)That it would lose Muslim votes.

    However THE MARCH OF MODI SCARED THE PANTS OF CONGRESSIS. A determined Modi would have just hung kasab and Guru in one week of becoming the PM. The congress saw that 90% of India wanted the hanging.

    It is now searching for the Hindu vote.

    Sadly the Muslim mind has been misread by the Congress. MOST MUSLIMS I know are against Jaish and LeT. They waned the hanging as much as Hindus ot Christians of the Country. It is fools like Digviansh and Baby who want to push them on to a separate agenda.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Death sentence is not like distribution of chocolates. There is no recourse once executed. That’s why there are checks and balances and the accused are given maximum chances in the law. It’s a well thought out process.

    Once condemned to death, all criminals are same. Execution must take due course.

    To earn brownie points, BJP politicised the whole issue, like many other petty things. Taunting and mocking have become political lingo of BJP. While the country poised to comptete others in the international arena, BJP has made a profession out of abuses and trivialisation.

    Like your twin Vinoo, you too have started attributing the rain and sandstorm to Modi.

    For your knowledge, there was not a single hanging during 6 years of NDA. Advani was too busy undermining Vajpayee.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    All Pratibha naukar cared for was the bank cheques with enough balance in the government’s account and she cared two hoots about the so called checks and balances you are speaking about.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Suddenly the Congress is seeing merit in the hanging as the Modi march is on.
    Why dony we punish Sheila Dixit and Pratibah Patil for delaying if the Congress was always for this. 5 croresa was spent on Afzal each year while farmers commited suicide because of lack of money.
    !
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    Anonymous Reply:

    The discussion on why etc of Guru hanging is dangerous. May be these “what ifs and whys” would not have happened if he was executed within 2-3 years after the sentencing. Some of the Mullahs have already started their complaint about the “selective application of hanging”… (if Guru, why not ***).implying a two tier system..Things can get out of hand. Home Ministry should put out display ads with the points you mentioned (attack on the core etc) in all publicationsm so the people who may be swayed by the Mullahs and “human rightists” have an alternate frame of reference

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This noise of selective application of hanging is bound to happen. BJP had made a political capital out of this capital punishment.

    As a natural justice, each case should have gone though the process sequentially.

    Now one rape case is more than equal than other case because some group can create noise. And one death sentence is more important than other death sentences.

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    AshishC Reply:

    @PathakG,
    Even the sense of half-closure I felt after the Kasab hanging is absent today.
    As the resident right wing reactionary on this blog, I get this sense of unease, the sense of disquiet that has never left me about this case, the prosecution and the verdict. And, now, the execution.
    Because, what if Afzal Guru was innocent?
    To be awarded the death penalty on circumstantial evidence and on the strength of his confession which even the Supreme Court set aside…
    I am not a happy man. I would like us to be a hard state but based on hard evidence and a sense of justice and fairplay.
    The perpetrators died – but the conspirators, I fear have not been caught or even identified.
    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/unanswered-questions-are-the-remains-of-the-day/article4397789.ece

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish,

    the article you have quoted is a rather juvenile attempt to put the clock back.

    There is no point in these seculars and bleeding heart liberals now crying that Afzal Guru never got good or even adequate legal representation in the various courts. What happened to the hundreds of crores of money that flowed into their accounts from all over the world and particularly from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Dawood Ibrahim? If Ghulam Nabi Fai, a Kashmiri fighting for an independent Kashmir could host dozens of top Indian journalists and editos as well as scores of NGO heads at fake conferences at lavish banquets and parties as also resorts etc, why couldn’t he spend a few miserable thousands of rupees for getting Afzal a Ram Jethmalani o

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish- US targeted and “droned” one of its own citizens, Anwar Al wlacki . Al Awlacki had not killed any fellow American; however, his propaganda was influencing other Americans, and he had declared himself as an Al Queda member (hence by default an enemy of US). Itmay not matter the extent of the involvement of Afzal Guru in the parliament attack, as long as he was a terrorist and had his hands in other palnnings and attacks (althoug his punishment was for the Parliament atatck).

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    Anonymous Reply:

    To the credit of Indian muslims, they did not go overboard participating in the global jihad even though shch phenomenon was on for many years.

    Whatever stray incidents we saw in India would not have been there if there were no Ayodhya or Gujrat incidents.

    Perhaps Indian muslims are not as fanatic as rest of the world becsuse of their old Indian heritage.

    To take care of the external threats we have a formidable army.

    I wish we had a strong political leadership that would take all communities together.

    engrich Reply:

    Just look at the events of last few weeks in Mali, Algeria, Egypt, Tunisia, Pakistan.

    the above are result of greed of western nations for their natural resources.nothing to do with extremism.

    Anonymous Reply:

    From the day one, the Govt was too eager to bring about the closure of the case as it was too much of a discomfort fof the Govt.

    With BJP’s rabble rousers all over the net and street, it was projected that Guru was the main conspirator. Because any talk about the main conspirator would have brought about the memory of the khandar episode. That the terrorist released by the NDA govt hit the same govt within 2 years, and at their very nerve center, would have doubly embarassed the BJP. So the pitch about the hanging of Guru was raised calibrated manner to a level that it was perceived to be a nationalistic and patriotic fervour rather than a carefully calibrated cover up.

    So anything less than that would have been unpatriotic.

    Also notice the SC’s comment today, death sentrnce takes ” public sentiment” into consideration.

    Now, who created this strong public sentiment ?

    ( For a starter, you should have posted this opinion a month back under anogher name and then seen the reaction of your friends.)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If what writer has written is correct than I would say that justice was denied to Afzal Guru.

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  • Anonymous

    Some political experts claim that Guru was hanged because UPA got scared of Modi’s popularity. General secretary of CPI (ML) says completely opposite .

    Terming the hanging of Afzal Guru as “travesty of justice and democracy”, the
    CPI(ML) today said it was carried out to “appease the communal fascist forces
    who want to make Narendra Modi India’s Prime Minister.”

    “Faced with
    growing popular opposition and resistance on every front, the Congress party and
    the UPA government are desperately trying to appease the BJP and the
    communal-fascist brigade,” General Secretary of CPI(ML) Liberation, Dipankar
    Bhattacharya said in a statement here.

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  • vijay !

    ————————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~ ARE ARUNDHATI ROY, ENGRICH AND TAJENDAR THE SAME PERSON?~~
    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Life is funny. But nothing can be funnier than the articles Arundhati has written for OUTLOOK.

    In a style which Engrich and Ravi write in, she is darkly hinting that in 2002 the NDA government was under a corruption scandal and it orchestered the entire attack !!

    Wah Wahw Wah!!!

    Read the whole article and enjoy a good Sunday laugh.

    And at a deeper level cry because it is trolls like Arundhati who have caused confusion and dictated the national agenda on terror– that of being scared of terrorists and believing in conspiracy theories that terrorists espouse.

    I think with this expose of herself, Arundhati should finally declare that she is joining Jaish or the Congress.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If the police claims ( with uncompromising confidence ) to have cracked a case like this within 24 hours, people would become sceptical.

    Don’t bother to talk about the evidence.

    We know how they are manufactured or wiped out at will by motivated police.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The delay alked about is the delay because of patil

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Do you really have comprehension problem? Did you read my posting ?

    A three piece and a drink do not make people intellectual.

    Gopi_Thomas Reply:

    Other than a comprehension problem, he is also scared due to that Modi’s speech at the SRCC.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well

    Sometimes the police is listening to conversation because of mobile equipment. They look for terrorists and end up catching a judge wanting a russian girl or Hansie cronje fixing a match.

    So with the Parliament attack.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju
    Arundhati has an op-ed in today;s Hindu – I did not know whether to laugh or cry.
    The tragedy is that 60 or so (out of 71) comments support her argument!
    This is the time when I long for Indira’s emergency days.. should lock her up!

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Gopi

    Better to laugh! She deserves a laugh!

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    vijay ! Reply:

    She can tell any lie. This country is scared of English speaking Women!

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  • Anonymous

    Rahul seems to rehearse for the 2014 victory!

    He says in UP that “Samajwadi Party and Akhilesh has not fulfilled promises made to the UP people’

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  • pankaj#1

    M.J. Akbar wrote in TOI.
    Voters know already that Dr Manmohan Singh is the last of the past. They are searching for the first of the future. If you cannot understand why Narendra Modi gets a rapt audience at a Delhi college, turn to the duller news items…..It reported that despite becoming the world’s fourth largest economy, employment was not growing either in India’s non-agricultural sectors or overall. It described the Indian story as “jobless growth”.
    The young like statistics as much as anyone else, but what they really want to read in newspapers is advertisements for jobs. Delhi’s college audiences believe that Modi can engineer and encourage the industrialisation that will create jobs, and has confirmed his credentials in Gujarat. That, in their lingo, is “awesome”.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If you want to know more about the hazard of ” jobless growth” then visit the state nearest to you – Gujrat.

    Don’t get befooled by the ” packaging “.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Pathak G;
    Gujrat is as far from me as New Delhi or for that matter any other state. But just for politics sake, I can not send Gujrat, farthest away from me. When, almost every one is praising Modi, the shrill cacophony, against him is drowning in the encomiums he is receiving, I do not understand your antipathy against him. Agriculture has received boost, industries have received boost, administration is corruption free and efficient, townships are getiing facelifts with urban improvements, surface transportation is being emulated india over, Non conventional energy is receiving tremendous boost, what else you are looking for ina government?? Whom do you compare with him in whole India??

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gujrat may be far physically, but nearest/closest to your heart. If you think my posting was without facts and figures, then I invite you to take help of people who are familiar with facts and figures or do a bit of googling about the investment received and job growth in Gujrat.

    BTW there have been newspaper reports to that effects. But I guess you are generally scepticsl about such reports.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    No, No.
    Please let me share your facts with you. Still you are replying in vague terms. I said, which state or Chief minister is doing as good as Modi? can we compare them here?? Jaya included, Prathvi Raj Chauhan(maharashtra CM?) included, anybody else, you want to put your money on??

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think Sanjay Gandhi would have done better. But I am sure I wouldn’t have identified myself with him. Infact, I never did even though he was Indira Gandhi’s favourite. I hope you understand my preference.

    Driving on a one way traffic is easy.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    pathakG;
    I am still an Indira fan. Though her weakness for family prevented her to become a statesman( or woman?). sanjay was head strong, but not bad in heart. Immensely immature. His youth congress was a terror of India during those days, Ahead of emergency. Koi lauta de…

  • pankaj#1

    What ever, I have reproduced below, should be read with the clear idea, that poor MMS was not allowed to work since last 3 years or more. completely crippled by likes of Digvijay and co.

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  • Anonymous

    Why are Indian students are disliked in USA?

    It was the first day of a school in the USA & a new Indian student named Chandrasekhar Subramanian entered the fourth grade classroom…

    The teacher said: Let’s begin by reviewing some American History. Who said ‘Give me Liberty, or give me Death’?

    He saw a sea of blank faces except for Chandrasekhar who had his hand up & said: Patrick Henry, 1775!

    “Very good! Who said ‘Government of the People, by the People, for the People, shall not perish ‘from the Earth?”

    Again, no response except from Chandrasekhar: Abraham Lincoln, 1863!

    The teacher snapped at the class: Class! You should be ashamed. Chandrasekhar, who is new to our country, knows more about our history than you do.

    She heard a loud whisper: F*** the Indians!

    ‘Who said that?’, she demanded.

    Chandrasekhar: General Custer, 1862.

    At that point, a student in the back said: I’m gonna puke!

    The teacher glares around & asks: All right! Now, who said that?

    Again, Chandrasekhar says: George Bush to the Japanese Prime Minister, 1991.

    Now furious, another student yells from the back of the class: Oh yeah? Suck this!

    Chandrasekhar jumps out of his chair waving his hand & shouts to the teacher: Bill Clinton, to Monica Lewinsky, 1997

    Now with almost mob hysteria someone said: You little shit! If you say anything more, I’ll kill you!

    Chandrasekhar frantically yells at the top of his voice: Michael Jackson to the child witnesses testifying against him, 2004.

    The teacher fainted. And as the class gathered around the teacher on the floor, someone said: Oh shit, we’re screwed!

    And Chandrasekhar said quietly: I think it was Lehmann Brothers, November 4th, 2008.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    god one -

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  • AshishC

    In other, more pleasant news.. Mamata threatens to do what many others secretly wish … ROFL
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/I-will-slap-you-Mamata-Banerjee-now-threatens-photo-journalists/articleshow/18430979.cms

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Poor Shan

    His dream girl is causing nightmares to many.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The headline was enough!!

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  • pankaj#1

    मैं सिकुड़कर
    घर की गर्म चार दीवारों के बीच
    ऊनी कम्बल में लिपटा
    खिड़की के बाहर
    स्वच्छ शुभ्र हिमपात को
    देख रहा था
    तभी
    दो गिलहरियाँ
    उस बर्फ पर खेलती
    अपने पदचिन्ह छोड़ गयी
    शायद घर से बाहर निकलने को
    मुझे प्रोत्साहित कर रही थी।……………
    घर की गर्म चार दीवारों के बीच
    ऊनी कम्बल में लिपटा
    खिड़की के बाहर
    स्वच्छ शुभ्र हिमपात को
    देख रहा था
    तभी
    दो गिलहरियाँ
    उस बर्फ पर खेलती
    अपने पदचिन्ह छोड़ गयी
    शायद घर से बाहर निकलने को
    मुझे प्रोत्साहित कर रही थी।……………

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    hargobind chukkal Reply:

    भारत के संसद पर हमले के अभियुक्त अफ़ज़ल गुरु को फांसी देने के
    बाद उनके शव को तिहाड़ जेल में ही दफ़्न किए जाने की बात पर अफ़ज़ल के परिवार में
    कड़ी नाराज़गी है.

    उनके परिवार ने अफ़ज़ल की फांसी की ख़बर स्पीड पोस्ट के जरिए भेजे जाने के भारत
    सरकार के दावे को भी बेबुनियाद बताया है.

    संबंधित समाचार

    जम्मू-कश्मीर में कर्फ्यू

    चेहरे पर ना अफसोस था…

    कश्मीर पर क्या होगा असर?

    इससे जुड़ी
    ख़बरें

    टॉपिक

    जम्मू-कश्मीर

    अफ़ज़ल के चचेरे भाई यासीन गुरु ने बीबीसी को टेलिफोन पर बताया, “यह सरासर गलत
    और बेबुनियाद है और वे (भारत सरकार) बहुत बड़ा झूठ बोल रहे हैं. हमें उसी दिन 9
    तारीख को सुबह सोशल मीडिया नेटवर्किंग साइट फेसबुक और टीवी से फांसी के बारे में
    पता चला.”

    यासीन गुरु कहते हैं,“ हमने भारत सरकार से मांग की है और आज भी हम इसे दोहरा रहे
    हैं कि अगर आप ने हमें कोई चिठ्ठी भेजी है तो उसकी रसीद दे दें हमें और दूसरी बात
    यह है कि अगर किसी बंदे ने यहां रिसीव की है तो उसकी पावती तो होनी चाहिए न. लेटर
    तो ऐसे डेलिवर नहीं हो जाती है न”.

    सरकार से मांग

    “हमने यहां के जिला कलक्टर को एक ई-मेल किया है
    और कहा है कि फांसी तो आपने दे दी है लेकिन अब हमारा धार्मिक और मानवीय अधिकार भी
    है कि आप हमें बॉडी वापस कर दें ताकि हम इस्लामी तौर-तरीकों से शव का कफन-दफन कर
    सकें जो कि हर एक लाश का हक होता है”

    यासीन गुरु, अफ़ज़ल गुरु के चचेरे
    भाई

    आगे की योजना के बारे में पूछे जाने पर यासीन ने बताया कि हमने तीन चार कदम उठाए
    हैं.

    उहोंने कहा,“अपने वकील से बात करके दिल्ली के जेल महकमे को चिठ्ठी लिखी है
    जिसमें हमने मांग की है कि हमें शव वापस कर दिया जाए.”

    यासीन कहते हैं,“हमने यहां के जिला कलक्टर को एक ई-मेल किया है और कहा है कि
    फांसी तो आपने दे दी है लेकिन अब हमारा धार्मिक और मानवीय अधिकार भी है कि आप हमें
    बॉडी वापस कर दें ताकि हम इस्लामी तौर-तरीकों से शव का कफन-दफन कर सकें जो कि हर एक
    लाश का हक होता है.”

    परिवार के हालात के बारे में पूछे जाने पर यासीन गुरु कहते हैं,“एक मिक्स अप
    फीलिंग है. गुस्सा भी है और दर्द भी है. गुस्सा इस लिहाज से है कि किसी इंसान की
    मौत हो गई है. भारत सरकार में जो बड़े बड़े अफसर हैं, जिन्होंने फांसी दी है, वे भी
    इनसान हैं और हम कश्मीरी भी यहां पर इनसान हैं”.

    अफ़ज़ल की आखिरी ख्वाहिश

    अफ़ज़ल गुरु को फांसी दिए जाने पर कई जगह विरोध प्रदर्शन हुए
    हैं

    आखिरी ख्वाहिश के सवाल पर यासीन ने कहा,“आप एक इनसान को मार रहे हो और उस इनसान
    का यह हक बनता है कि उसकी आखिरी ख्वाहिश जो उसकी थी, वह पता चल जाती, शायद वह अपने
    परिवार से मिलता, अपने बच्चे से मिलता, अपनी बीवी से मिलता या उसके दिल में कोई और
    बात होती तो वह कर लेता”.

    उन्होंने कहा,“डेढ़ दो महीने पहले तो हम लोग मिलते रहते थे और उस समय ऐसी कोई
    स्थिति नहीं थी कि ऐसा कुछ होने वाला है. ऐसी (आखिरी ख्वाहिश) कोई बात नहीं हुई
    थी”.

    सरकार के प्रति नाराज़गी जाहिर करते हुए यासीन गुरु ने कहा,“आप तीन तारीख को
    हमारी मर्सी पिटीशन खारिज करते हैं और हमें पता नहीं चलता. मीडिया को भी कोई
    इत्तेला नहीं मिलती और फिर आप फांसी पर लटका देते हैं फिर भी कोई इत्तेला नहीं
    मिलती.”

    वह कहते हैं,“आप खुद को दुनिया की सबसे बड़ी डेमोक्रेसी बताते हो और एक आदमी को
    मार रहे हो लेकिन उसके घर वालों को पता भी नहीं होता”.

    अफ़ज़ल की फांसी के बाद के हालात पर यासीन ने कहा,“हम पहले भी कह चुके हैं कि हम
    नहीं चाहते हैं कि कोई और जान जाया हो. हम नहीं चाहते हैं कि कोई बच्चा रस्ते में
    शहीद हो जाए. अब्दुल साहब अब कोई गुरु खानदान का बेटा नहीं है. अब तो वह पूरी
    कश्मीर कौम का बेटा है.”

    उन्होंने कहा,“हम सब लोगों की तरफ से कश्मीरी अवाम की तरफ से भारत सरकार को
    सिर्फ यही कहना चाहते हैं कि अफ़ज़ल की लाश हमें दे दी जाए. और इस्लामी तरीके से वह
    जिस वतन से जिस मिट्टी से वह पैदा हुआ है, उसी मिट्टी में हम उसको दफ़्न कर दें.
    हमारी ख्वाहिश है और भारत सरकार से हमारी यही गुजारिश है कि ऐसा हो जाए और उनकी लाश
    हमें दे दी जाए.”

    कश्मीर के हालात पर यासीन ने कहा,“यहां पर हर गली-कूचे को नाके बंद कर दिया गया
    है, यहां पर कर्फ्यू लगा दी गई है, जो प्रमुख रास्ते हैं, उसको बंद कर दिया गया है,
    कश्मीर के हर गली-कूचे में विरोध प्रदर्शन हो रहे हैं. जो हाल पूरे वतन का है वैसा
    ही हाल हमारे गांव, हमारे इलाके का भी है. यहां तो माहौल बहुत ज्यादा खराब हैं,
    गमोगुस्सा है हर तरफ और इसकी जिम्मेदार भारत सरकार खुद है.”

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  • Anonymous

    Just watched Fareed Zakaria interviewing Mukesh Ambani on CNN/gGPS

    Mukesh was quite bulilsh about the prospects/future of USA and India. He said he foresees US becoming self sufficient in energy in 8-10 years, and will not need importing oil (what will happen to Mideast????)

    His statements on India were quite admirable;

    “it is a country of 1 billion aspirations”
    “It is one of the very few, where every person counts – country is not run by one person, or 10 people polite bureau etc”
    “Indian growth is truly a bottoms up instead of top down”

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    Gopi_Thomas Reply:

    Did he talk anything about Modi?

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  • Anonymous

    Article in today’s NYT on POSCO steel in Odissa ( Reuters )

    http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2013/02/10/business/10reuters-india-posco.html?hp&_r=0

    India has to solve these investment issues

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  • pankaj#1

    ….Obviuosly, the elections in Gujarat changed equations. Modi’s victory made his journey to Delhi and to the top echelons of his party seem like a mere formality. Besides, in the decade that Modi had been persona non grata in the west, Modi was busy making Gujarat the envy of many national economies. Unfazed by the roadblocks to the west, Modi journeyed to three key countries that made all the difference to him.

    Israel was his first port of call. Over the years, Gujarat and Israel have struck up a friendship in the agriculture sector, and certainly in the past four years, agriculture in Gujarat has jumped. China and Japan were the next countries to be wooed by Modi. Particularly Japan and Modi were a mutual admiration society. The Japan-funded Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor traverses through a large part of Gujarat. Japanese companies are making a beeline for the industrial hubs there.

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  • pankaj#1

    ….In China, Modi wooed business, but gave the Chinese stern lectures on the perils of supporting Pakistan. In Japan, he welcomed Suzuki into Gujarat, which was recently mauled by worker protests in Haryana.

    Whether it is smart marketing or a game changing experience, diplomats have steadily followed Modi’s progress in the past few years. with a sort of horrified fascination. The smarter ones knew they would have to reverse their visa bans sooner rather than later, the only question was when. The elections provided a good reason.

    Secondly, every country of note has been following the evolution of the two main political formations in this country for a while now. They would probably have held off making a decision on Modi if the field was skewed against him. Their decision to bring him in from the cold clearly means that foreign countries are assessing Indian politics differently.

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  • pankaj#1

    pathakG;
    because of your ehhortations, I went to look further for Jobless Growth and what I found was producing here for wider consumption.
    First of all, this blog was written by Rajiv Shah, a known Modi baiter, will you agree with me on this?? And now, who wrote the book with eleven other authors contributing?? Yes, our JNU academics. Now, this much introduction had made me alert. I read with anticipation and curiosity. IN very brief, they are saying…
    Rajiv Shah saying…Frankly, I don’t subscribe to the view. Whether one likes it not, globalization is inevitable, and any amount of protectionism will only cut off the policy makers from what’s happening around the world.
    The paper by Ruchika Rani and Kalaiyarasan A, “Galloping Growth Stagnant Employment: Mapping Regional and Social Differences”, was particularly impressive. Basing on National Sample Survey figures, the authors say that the growth rate of employment in Gujarat during 1993-94 to 2004-05 was 2.43 per cent. However, they add, “this came down nearly zero in the latter half of the decade (2004-05 to 2009-10).” Further, they say, employment in “key sectors, agriculture and manufacturing, witnessed negative growth rates at – 1.59 per cent and – 2.23 per cent per annum, respectively.” The authors give reasons for this negative rate. In agriculture, labour productivity significantly increased between 2004-05 and 2009-10 at the rate of 5.87 per cent, as compared to 2.66 per cent between 1993-94 and 2004-05. They attribute this to “the commercial and contract farming which involves production with larger capital intensity.” Similarly, the growth in labour productivity in the manufacturing sector was 9.75 per cent per annum between 2004-05 and 2009-10 as against 4.25 per cent in the previous phase.
    it is getting too long. I will post link and see for your self. if employment is going down and in some instances negatively despite economic growth, writers themselves are saying that it is because of increased labour productivity. So now, what kind of industries you want, incompetent, with teeming number of workers, half skilled, half productive or efficient industries with less number of highly productive workers. I think, I will opt for second situation. What about rest of the people, still solution is to raise the number of industries, this will raise demand of labours, competition will increase their wages and that is the key to a healthy national growth and competitiveness in Global environment.
    I can discuss this further. No contributor is challenging NM but giving a leftist perspective of situation. solution is to allow many more industries to flourish and that should suck the surplus labour, as happening in agricultural economies of North India.
    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/true-lies/entry/gujarat-s-experiment-with-jobless-growth

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  • hargobind chukkal

    प्रेस काउंसिल ऑफ़ इंडिया के चेयरमैन जस्टिस काटजू ने पत्रकार
    इफ़्तेख़ार गिलानी के साथ हुए दिल्ली पुलिस के दुर्व्यवहार की तुलना जर्मनी के
    नाज़ी शासन के तौर-तरीक़ों से की है.

    गिलानी ने पुलिस की बदसुलूकी के ख़िलाफ़ प्रेस काउंसिल में शिकायत की थी.

    संबंधित समाचार

    …पाकिस्तान ‘फ़र्ज़ी’ देश

    काटजू को कानूनी नोटिस

    फैसले को चुनौती देंगे :काटजू

    इससे जुड़ी
    ख़बरें

    टॉपिक

    भारत

    भारत सरकार के गृह सचिव के नाम लिखे पत्र में काटजू ने कहा है, ”गिलानी की
    शिकायत और हिंदू अख़बार में छपी ख़बर से पता चलता है कि दिल्ली पुलिस ने इफ़्तेख़ार
    गिलानी और उनके परिवार व छोटे बच्चों के साथ बदसुलूकी की और उनका उत्पीड़न
    किया.”

    उन्होंने कहा, ”ये नाज़ियों के अलोकतांत्रिक और बर्बर तौर-तरीक़े हैं.”

    गृह सचिव को पत्र

    गृह सचिव को लिखे पत्र में काटजू ने कहा है कि अगर ये आरोप सही हैं तो इस तरह के
    ग़ैरक़ानूनी काम करने वाले पुलिस अफ़सरों के ख़िलाफ़ आईपीसी की धारा 341/342 और
    दूसरे प्रावधानों के तहत कार्रवाई की जाए.

    “गिलानी शिकायत और हिंदू अखबार में छपी खबर से
    पता चलता है कि दिल्ली पुलिस ने इफ्तेखार गिलानी और उनके परिवार व छोचे बच्चों के
    साथ बदसुलूकी की और उत्पीड़ित किया”

    जस्टिस काटजू, भारती प्रेस परिषद के
    अध्यक्ष

    जस्टिस काटजू ने कहा है कि इसके साथ ही पुलिस कार्रवाई में शामिल अधिकारियों को
    ऐसा करने का निर्देश देने वाले आले अफ़सरों पर भी कार्रवाई की जाए.

    गिलानी के आरोपों के सच साबित होने की सूरत में काटजू ने गृह सचिव को 48 घंटों
    के भीतर कई क़दम उठाने के लिए कहा है.

    इनमें पुलिस की कार्रवाई में शामिल अफ़सरों के ख़िलाफ़ क़ानूनी क़दम उठाने और
    गिलानी को वाजिब मुआवज़ा दिए जाने की मांग भी शामिल है.

    गिलानी की नज़रबंदी

    इससे पहले दिल्ली पुलिस ने उन ख़बरों पर टिप्पणी करने से इनकार कर दिया जिनके
    मुताबिक़ शनिवार को जाने-माने पत्रकार इफ़्तेख़ार गिलानी को नज़रबंद कर लिया गया
    था.

    कश्मीरी-मूल के गिलानी को शनिवार सुबह दिल्ली में उनके घर की पार्किंग से दिल्ली
    पुलिस के स्पेशल सेल के अधिकारियों ने पकड़ लिया था.

    वहां से उन्हें, उनके ससुर और कश्मीरी नेता सैयद अली शाह गिलानी के घर ले जाया
    गया जहां कई घंटों तक उन्हें नज़रबंद रखने के बाद छोड़ दिया गया.

    दिल्ली पुलिस के प्रवक्ता राजन भगत से जब बीबीसी हिंदी ने इस बारे में
    प्रतिक्रिया जाननी चाही, तो उन्होंने “नो कमेंट्स” कहकर फ़ोन काट
    दिया.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    will you please blog in English

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    hargobind chukkal Reply:

    if u dont know hindi u are not true indian.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Oh, I did not know that! Thanks

    Anonymous Reply:

    He is Engrich. He has copied and pasted an article from a Hindi newspaper.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    this jihadi engrich is a ‘chatushpaadi’.

    He can write nonsense in four languages including his father tongue, Arabic.

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  • Anonymous

    Narendra Modi V Proxies

    http://www.mediacrooks.com/2013/02/narendra-modi-v-proxies.html#comment-form

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks Mohan for sharing this.

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  • AshishC

    @Mohanrr
    For a more detailed arguing of the case, you can visit the PUCL website. They argue, point by point, about the case, proceedings, verdicts etc and point out the lack of legal representation, media frenzy, inconsistencies in dates, exactly how did the police ACP zero in on Afzal Guru as a suspect, discredited witnesses like the SIM card seller…
    To me it seemed like Afzal got hanged for his past sins of being a “has been militant”.
    Supreme court threw out his confessional statement obtained under POTA as inadmissible – practically the only thing that nailed him- but, still convicted him.
    In my view, and I am probably in the 1% who will argue likewise- Afzal Guru does not burnish our reputation of being hard on terror. It actually does the opposite. Instead of identifying and visiting retribution on those that planned and masterminded the attack, we are content to find scapegoats.
    @PathakG,
    My friends on this blog?? Aren’t you my friend?
    I am sad today; I really thought the government would find a way to keep this man alive. And, I confess, I am not an activist. I can not even find the time to go to Jantar Mantar with a candle.
    Incidentally, I voted Congress in 2009, did not vote in 2004 as I was out of the country.

    “Sabar upar-e manush satya, tahaar upar noye”- Man/ human being is the ultimate truth, none above him- said Tagore. I have been saddened by a couple of comments by the SC in the recent times- one in the case of Ashish Nandy (“do not make controversial remarks”) and the other in the case of Afzal Guru- “collective conscience…..”. Both, in my view, point to a dangerous tendency to bow to public opinion.
    As I said before, I am a coward. More than this, I can not do or say.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I had not seriously followed this case. Thanks vm I will check that website.
    I agree with you about the comments made by SC to Nandy. Freedom of speech which is very vital for the democracy will be curtailed by such comments by SC.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I had not seriously followed this case. Thanks vm I will check that website.
    I agree with you about the comments made by SC to Nandy. Freedom of speech which is very vital for the democracy will be curtailed by such comments by SC.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Ashish

    The PUCL arguements would be the same as that forwarded by Arundhati Roy. They would conveniently pick up bits and pieces here and there and add FICTION to build up their argument.

    Central to Arundhati’s thesis was her piece-de-resistence that the NDA wanted to divert attention from the Kargil scam and had orchestered this whole Parliament attack and then cause a war with Pakistan. The ISI and the Indian columnists (fifth columnists actually) like Kuldip Nayar and Jawed Naqvi had then and probably today too would nod in agreement. In short there is a conspiracy behind everything, a conspiracy created by the right wing to defame peaceniks and then create a scenario of giving huge funds to the global arms lobby.

    Well… only the most naive OR the most soft headed can believe this thesis.

    The courts in our country err to the side of caution. I have no doubt that a body like the Supreme Court of India would have gone into the entire investigation in detail, before giving this judgement. Pranab Mukherji, a responsible COngressman– despite being a mediocre Finance MInister– knows the political pulse of the nation like few do. He would not have erred.

    On a personal level I know one DCP very closely assosciated with the investigation. He was swearing ( in 2009) that the investigation was one of the best done by the Delhi Police. They already had Afzal on their radar. Like many a militant he would play a two way game. Become an informer one day and a militant the next.

    So in case anybody deserved a punishment for being part of the crime by

    a) Having full knowledge of it beforehand

    b) Having helped in the logistics

    Then Afzal deserved the punishment.

    Not only is this a grave crime… it was the GRAVEST of Grave. Blowing up the Parliament would have damaged India the way nothing did before.

    So Afzal might not have been Maulana Masood or the ISI head… but he was a foot soldier who was an executor.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Asish you should be careful if you pick up material from websites of partisan organizations who have an agenda , like PUCL PUDR etc ..they are no different from those of Jihadi bodies.,.. one-sided ..selective with facts.. distorting facts.. and so on. Yes they are articulate good at communications…..know how to use the stupid media . My suggestion would be to read the other versions too before reaching your conclusions

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Praveen you are right here. The same forces will give convincing reasons that

    a) Godhra was suicide or planned by right wing HIndus to cause Hindu Muslim tensions

    b) Or the other big fib. That the Karsewaks had molested a few girls and “exposed” themselves and got it back

    c) 26/11 was an Israeli and a RAW plot

    d) 9/11 was orchestered by Jews

    Sad fact is police in India has very limited English drafting capabilities. It is easy to puncture the police arguements.

    Again the Supreme court or Pranab Mukherji could not have been wrong.

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    AshishC Reply:

    @Praveen Saxena,
    If PUCL/ PUDR happen to be right with their facts, then?
    It is a fact that Afzal did not have a lawyer; even Kasab had one, an eminent one at that.
    I am arguing for fairness.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Asish ..the conviction of this man was upheld by the apex court. Some other co-accused were let off by the lower Appellate Court. The entire legal procedure as per Indian laws was followed . Kamini Jaiswal was one of his advocates. Just as Kasab was provided a lawyer by the state so was this man. unless he chose to defend himself in person which was not the case.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I read few articles about this case on the website you suggested.
    Very disturbing if they are true.

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    RajeevS Reply:

    It seems that Judiciary is becoming an arm of the Executive

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I understand your sadness. A good human being must feel sad when he sees something wrong happening around him.

    A lot of people must have felt like you but never spoke out because they might have feared of being shouted down.

    As I said before if IT WAS TRUE then Guru deserved it and but if it wasn’t true, then we all must be ashamed.

    I have had personal experience with Police and their way of manufacturing evidence. When they want to please the bosses, they can manufacture evidence from thin air. This was a case when the political bosses wanted a quick closure to mask their failure. They hyped Guru case so much that the world believed that NDA got the mastermind in that case and worst possible sentence given to him.

    Trust me, at this moment you could still talk about it. But you couldn’t have talked about it few months back. And definitely not with a different ID on this blog. You could have been abused to death.

    Glad you raised the point. Good to know that sensibilities are still alive in people.

    Let it go.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When they want to please the bosses, they can manufacture evidence from thin air.

    Pragya Thakur, Capt. Purohit and Aseemanand

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    vijay ! Reply:

    In Afzal Guru’s case it is clear that he was NOT innocent. He may not have been the mastermind but a foot soldier like David Headley.

    The Supreme Court held that the circumstances detailed in the judgment clearly established that Afzal was associated with the deceased terrorists in almost every act done by them in order to achieve the objective of attacking the Parliament House. It also observed that there was sufficient and satisfactory circumstantial evidence to establish that Afzal was a partner in this conspired crime of enormous gravity.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Since you are glued on to the case, find out if he got all the opportunities to plead his case.

    vijay ! Reply:

    I am for a fair trial to all. WHy did not his well wishers stand up while the trial was on? Nandita Haksar who spoke up later and had taken up SAR Gilani’s case could have taken up his case also.

    There is no one who says that he was not involved in the attack. He may have been a small cog but an important cog in all ways, So in case you know about an attack on Parliament, have helped in the logistics, then surely this is a grave crime for which exemplry punishment is deserved.

    SN Dhingra, the judge of Delhi High court was a straight shooter. The SUpreme court errs on the side of caution on death.

    Maybe had he been an accompllce in a killing of say ten people and not the sniper himself he could have got life or 15 years. But a Parliament attack where killing of MPs or hostage taking was planned surely deserved the death.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Since there is nothing left, this case can only become academic. There will be debates. Let’s see what comes out.

    vijay ! Reply:

    At best we can debate about how much punishment for the degree of involvement.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That’s what people have been discussing. Ashish raised that point. He wasn’t happy death sentence being given to Guru on the circumstantial evidence.

    vijay ! Reply:

    NO NO! My take is that he was guilty. Many people and even Ashish felt that perhaps he was not guilty as the evidence against him was circumstantial and he did not get a lawyer for defense.

    Afzal Guru did have Colin Gonsalves as a lawyer and the lawyer had pleaded that his client would want death with an injection and not by hanging.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Send that lawyer to law school.

    vijay ! Reply:

    colin gonsalves often comes on TV defending the right of people who multiple raped minor girls– to live. For him life starts by castigating hindutva.

    I beleive… that he is now remarried and to a gril 35 yrs his junior.

    Anonymous Reply:

    35 years junior ! Shenoy has hopes ! And the girl for you is yet to born !

    vijay ! Reply:

    I have edited out that line… who has time for lawyers sending you legal notices!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yeah! You never know.

    vijay ! Reply:

    My Engineer while coming to our noida site on his bike… was hit by a car being driven by the chauffer of BHu _ _ _ which was coming from the wrong side of the road. And My engineer was the guy hauled up by the police and draggged to court! This is the power of our powerful lawyers!!!

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Kamini Jaiswal, Colin Gonsalves, Ram Jethmalani have been his lawyers .

    AshishC Reply:

    my sentiments, exactly.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Ashish

    Being the son of a lawyer … and having seen Indian law at close quarters… let me ask you a question. DO you really think all crimes would have high quality video taped evidence?

    In this case there is no doubt that Afzal was involved. He himself did not deny that. Evne the Supreme court believed this even as it castigated Rajbir SIngh and Ashok Chand for making Afzal talk to Aaj Tak.

    Yes had it been ten people like you and me wehre Afsal was not a kioller but just the accomplice to the actual killers… then maybe he could have got life.

    But an attack on Parliament would have ended in an INdo Pak war or maybe terrorists coming out victorious.

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Pathak

    It wont be beyond Samajwadi party to campaign in UP based on this execution and do what Rahul and Digviansh did about Batla house.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The BJP squeezed Guru for their political gain for 8 years. Let SP take advantage. Tawa garam hai……

    vijay ! Reply:

    SO the congress may actually lose its votebank. But still it took a correct decison.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    The case of against Pragya Thakur ..etc was of Hindu Terror. The hanging of Afzal Guru was injustice to a Muslim by a Hindu state .. is that your case ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    You read a little, write too fast, jump to a conclusion too soon.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    “They still have chances to prove otherwise.

    Think of thousands of innocent muslim boys who got pushed around for nothing. They too are Indian.”

    ” They hyped Guru case so much that the world believed that NDA got the mastermind in that case and worst possible sentence given to him.

    “The BJP squeezed Guru for their political gain for 8 years.”

    Anonymous Reply:

    You think BJP is all about hindus! They use hindu card for their vote bank politics, nothing else. Advani thought he had a trump card ! Stupid !!

    Do you know 5 blinds trying to find the shape of an elephant story ?

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    ” You think BJP is all about hindus”
    No the BJP is all about nationalism.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What about the congress “squeezing” Hindu terror all these last four years?

    vijay ! Reply:

    Or **** Ex Premier Gilani squeezing Sherry rehman…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Actually he was measuring her size for gifting her some imported bra.

    vijay ! Reply:

    ok ok!! But still very funny to do it in a public rally, shouting “inquilab ziandabad…”

    Anonymous Reply:

    Years back, one customer was shopping bras for his wife in a posh market. The shop keeper asked about the size. The customer didn’t know. So he physically demonstrated by spreading out his palms and said loudly..” yeah this big!”…. People in the shop didn’t know where to look and it was so difficult to control the laughter!

    I had almost forgotten this event !!

    vijay ! Reply:

    good one!

    Anonymous Reply:

    It takes some guts to take on hindu terror in a hindu majority country.

    Anonymous Reply:

    SInce India’s history is full of Hindus not having guts, what guts are you talking about?

    ANybody can make fun of Hindus, do zaleel of India or Hindu gods and sacred scriptures and get away.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It does not matter how weak a person is. He is always poerful in a mob !

    hargobind chukkal Reply:

    anyhow hindu is a voilent cult

    Anonymous Reply:

    Or Ram Vilas may get some Muslim boy dressed up in checked head scarf like Afzal Guru and take him round with a noose around his head.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    there is still S.A.R.Geelani who is still alive and got off unharmed because of faulty application of mind by the SC judges.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    as I said yesterday, why didn’t his high profile friends like Fai, Fai’s friends like Kuldip Nayar, Padgaonkar, etc, and the bleeding heart NGO’s like Teesta’s or couldn’t hire kapil SIbal to defend his case?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Only Jethmalani can do. He is one guy who does not give much importance to the public opinion.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I agree, but since this case involved seculars, Kapil Sibal would have done a fine job of “defending” the terrorist.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kapil is too expensive.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Kamini Jaiswal, Colin Gonsalves, Ram Jethmalani have been his lawyers .

    AshishC Reply:

    @ShenoyBV,
    To my mind, this tells you volumes about what those so called friends really are.
    But, and this is an important but, it tells you nothing / proves nothing about Afzal Guru’s innocence or guilt.
    In fact, the scary thing to me is- he probably had no friends, no one knew him or bothered whether he lived or died.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Even SAR Geelani did nothing to come to his help.

    AshishC Reply:

    same point..

    vijay ! Reply:

    Ashish

    He was admitting to his guilt most of the time. He just wanted a painless closure. DO you think COlin Gonsalves whose day starts with RSS-VHP_hindutva lectures would have let this go, had Afzal not been guilty?

    Anonymous Reply:

    They still have chances to prove otherwise.

    Think of thousands of innocent muslim boys who got pushed around for nothing. They too are Indian.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Who would think about the Hindu guys?

    I know of a Hindu who is behind the bars for a crime that was supposed to have been committed while he was behind the bars in a different case. He has written letters to NHRC – no response.

    Muslims need no more pampering than a Hindu. Police have a means of fcuking both for whatever reasons.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What kind of crime he got involved ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is a petty crime – motorcycle theft. He was in judicial custody and had been out on bail for only two days that the Haryana police picked him up again for another bike theft that had happened last month. Now, he couldn’t have been involved as he was already in jail.

    He is too poor to afford a good lawyer for the first case and now there is another case slapped on him.

    I brought this up to validate your point about the way our police works.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This has nothing to do with him being hindu or muslim or christian. I am surprised you could mix up so badly !

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is so difficult these days even to be a petty thief.
    Only big thieves thrive on CWG, 2G, 3G etc.

    Anonymous Reply:

    We know your bleeding heart beats only for the Muslim peisoners. Pragya Singh and Aseemanand have already “confessed”, but after years, no charge sheet.

    Anonymous Reply:

    How did you see my heart today?

    Vijay had borrowed it from me last evening and not returned yet.

    Anonymous Reply:

    On 3G digital broadband waves.
    I could even see the gold covering. But couldn’t be too sure whether it was solid gold.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You must have misconstrued a wavy heart ( in bad weather ) as a bleeding heart !

    Anonymous Reply:

    First a disclaimer: I have no intention of returning to any blogs , as I have found nirvana in italian art and architecture. Flying to naples on thursday.
    However regarding afzal guru. DO REMEMBER VIVIDLY guru confessing in front of camera in NDTV. Also his wife SANG LIKE A CANARY. He was not an innocent bystander, HE HAD ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED in facilitating the parliament attack. ALSO NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THE LAW IS PRETTY CLEAR , WHEN IT COMES TO AIDING AND ABETTING A TERRORIST ATTACK. Recently visited munich during octoberfest.
    Visited Wurzberg residency , a world heritage site, due to the largest fresco painting by tipolo. This was the residence of Bishop Prince , bishop as well as prince , THOROUGH AND THOROUGH CORRUPT, well goes to show what happens when when religion and administraton mix.
    An incredible fact came forward , both GOLDMAN AND SACHS and LEHMAN , hailed from Wurzberg. As they say poison ivy tree doesn’t produce apples

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  • AshishC

    Vijay/ Shenoy,
    One last comment on this and I promise, really my last on this.
    I am not debating the quantum of punishment given if Afzal really was guilty. I am not even debating whether he was guilty or not. That is the job of the courts. They have done it.
    I am only saying that when we say “rarest of rare” case – we must mean it. It must also be backed with incontrovertible evidence. The accused must be allowed proper legal representation.
    We are not some godforsaken country ruled by some tinpot dictator. We proved that in case of Kasab. We will allow the accused in the Nirbhaya case similar privileges.
    Rule of law- applied fairly. Let thousand criminals escape lest even one innocent be punished. That IS the bedrock of our criminal justice system- not just in India, in any civilized country.
    As a country,we are too big and great to be threatened by the continued living of someone whose guilt was not established beyond every shade of doubt.
    Peace.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    ASHISH

    I understand we are running in circles but let it be for record.

    Afzal guru was not innocent. He did have lawyers. Kamini Jaiswal and Colin Gonsalves are reknown Supreme COurt lawyers.

    We can only debate about the quantum of punishment.

    Gautam Navlakha who wants seccession of Kashmir form India admits that Afzal was involved. Even he cant deny this but he just says that Afzal guru was not the main guy but a flunkie.

    Kamini Jaiswal maintains that his sentence should have been that of life.

    YEs, we should have cleared all the doubts raised by the nay sayers before the execution.

    So it is really about how seriously you take this attack on Parliament.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Vijay ..add Ram Jethmalani’s name to your list of lawyers. Could any accused have a more formidable team of lawyers. and obviously either some friends paid for arranging that defence or he got the best support for his defence for free.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    True. The delay of 8 years by Sheila Dixit sitting over the files and then Pratibha Patil gave time for professional manipulators like Arundhati to create doubts.

    vijay ! Reply:

    I am now replying to my own post!!

    But I feel that with all the bleeding hearts NOT seeing that Afzal was involved in the attack, it wont be long before a leftist filmaker makes a tearfull documentary on how an innocent shephard was hung for a crime he did not commit.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish,

    as usual, you are very convincing and genuine with your point thta Afzal Guaru need not have been sent to the gallows.

    In these kind of terror attacks innocents, in fact, large number of innocents get blown away or shot and killed.

    Therefore, Guru, b y an act of providence, seems to have paid the debt for the wrong doing of some of his fellow jihadis.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    a) The attack on Indian parliament was an example of ‘rarest of rare’ crime
    b) I would go thru the info. available on net to see if the evidence was irrefutable and respond later
    c) The accused was allowed proper legal representation by the courts – he couldn’t ask for someone he couldn’t afford or who was not willing to take up his case. If you set this as a standard, then it would be very difficult to justify the conviction of any accused.

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    hargobind chukkal Reply:

    ashish,

    qadr ullu kee ullu janta hai,

    u cannot convince a man against his wishes.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    My take on the political impact of Afzal Guru’s hanging…the higher the cacophony on the injustice to Guru ..Congress loses the love and affection of its vote-bank. Omar Abdullah statement on hanging of beant Singh’s killers is going to add to its discomfiture. The wait of 11 years and then hanging him was like a hallaal which went on for 11 years . They could have shown the courage to convert it to life imprisonment instead of keeping him alive for 11 and they hanging him in in such secrecy. in sum total as the Hindi saying goes Na Ram miley Na Maya . ..

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  • Anonymous

    Ashish, Viju, Pathak et al

    Afzal Guru”s execution is the culmination of the process satisfactorily and successfully completed through the judicial system of the country. The only way an innocent man does not go the gallows is by removing capital punishment from our legal system. As long as there is capital punishment, Afzal Guru will not be the first or last innocent man hanged (i am not saying he is innocent or guilty – and only he knows that; everybody else is speculating based on selective elements .. Remember Kurosowa;s movie Roshomon – 8 witnesses had 8 truths, all contradicting each other, and nobody lying )

    Letting the what ifs of the case discussed now only feeds the conspiracy/two law/selective punishment schemers. However, there are two problems as I see -
    1) Reports say that Afzal Guru’s wife did not know about the execution; that she got the “speed letter” three days late (I believe this should be hand delivered by the district collector; obviously a speed letter seems to be sufficient per law; but then some mechanism should be there to ensure it was delivered before the execution)
    2) Execution should happen within two years of exhausting all legal venues. The longer it takes, the more are the conspiracy theories, who it will benefit politically, etc etc.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    I think in this case the iota of doubt should have been removed by the politicians that this was a fair judgement and that is why we are going ahead with the daeth penalty.

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  • engrich

    Gopi ji, who you think should hanged for Samjhuta

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Let the legal system go through the whole process, including the presidential pardon.

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    engrich Reply:

    why wait, they guilty

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  • Anonymous

    Yasin Malik shares dias with LeT chief Hafiz Saeed in Pakistan

    NEW DELHI: Separatist JKLF leader Yasin Malik shared the dias with 26/11 Mumbai terror attack mastermind and Lashkar-e-Taiba chief Hafiz Saeed to mourn the execution of Parliament attack conspirator Afzal Guru in Islamabad. Malik and some of his supporters observed a 24-hour fast in protest of Guru’s hanging.

    Afzal Guru was hanged in Tihar Jail on Saturday and buried inside the jail in a top-secret operation.

    Addressing the gathering, Malik also asked the Pakistan government not to make any “hasty decision” on Indian death row prisoner Sarabjit Singh in the wake of Guru’s execution.

    On Malik’s meeting with Saeed, foreign minister Salman Khurshid told Times Now that he would look into this matter after getting details from the home ministry.

    According to Times Now, home ministry sources say that “Malik has taken things too far this time and is now under the government’s scanner”, and the ministry is looking into the details of his Pakistan visit.

    On queries as to whether any action will be taken against Malik for sharing dais with Lashker-e-Taiba chief Hafeez Saeed while sitting on a hunger strike in Pakistan, home minister Sushilkumar Shinde said, “I will look into the case.”

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    You stole my lines. I was going to raise this point. I do not understand, how come, Malik goes and come back to India so effortlessly, sharing dias with a sworn emnemy of India, Hafiz saeed??
    Is GOI not weakening its case on Kashmir by allowing such excursions??
    Can you give an example of such behaviour by any nation in world??

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yasin Malik is openly challenging the government that he will do whatever he wants because he knows that GOI has no guts to take action against him.

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  • pankaj#1

    Mohan;
    Thanks for the link, mediacrook. Absolutely brilliant writing by Ravi.
    He is saying that our media has become so much ensconced with governmental power that it has totally forgotten its role as a watch dog of the people. The way, Modi is being vilified and hounded can be work only of pimps.

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  • devduttkumar

    ‘The Units We Fought Were All Pakistan Army Regulars’

    http://outlookindia.com/article.aspx?283855

    ====

    I believe that they deliberately decided to look away. I remember a
    briefing where General Malik, and others were present. I was reporting
    about the int­rusions and movements of the Pakistani troops. The first
    thing goc Major Gen­eral Budhwar said was, “Look we are constructing a
    zoo.” Ima­g­ine! The enemy was inching closer and he was busy
    constructing a zoo with the full support and knowledge of the corps
    commander and army comma­nder.

    They were all in the Delhi-Lahore bus yatra mood. They were all in the
    political mood. They had left the soldierly vision. There were a bunch
    of seniors who had resigned themselves to the fact that the bus yatra
    was happening and that there would be a thaw on the LoC and that nothing
    untoward would happen.

    =====================================

    A must read for all bloggers.

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  • Anonymous

    Had Vajpayee been PM, Afzal’s execution wouldn’t have happened: Ex-RAW chief

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    Anonymous Reply:

    These ex guys speak for few minutes TV fame, or to get consultant jobs. This s getting out of control; need to consider 15 years of silence on official information

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  • Anonymous

    Pope Benedict resigned citing bad health — the first time a Pope is resigning in 720 years. Let us hope the Catholic Church selects a leader who will correct the wrongs that have been perpetrated on some of the young boys worldwide. The great institutions they have built and the exemplary societal contributions in the various fields of human upliftment they made have been diminished by the foul behaviour of a few lower level priests, uncared bythe higher ups, even worse, sweeping under the rug,

    Let us hope they will atone in the coming days of atonement of Ash Wednesday throuhh Good Friday by selecting a leader who will clean up the shop,

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  • Anonymous

    First a disclaimer: I have no intention of returning to any blogs , as I have found nirvana in italian art and architecture. Flying to naples on thursday.
    However regarding afzal guru. DO REMEMBER VIVIDLY guru confessing in front of camera in NDTV. Also his wife SANG LIKE A CANARY. He was not an innocent bystander, HE HAD ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED in facilitating the parliament attack. ALSO NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THE LAW IS PRETTY CLEAR , WHEN IT COMES TO AIDING AND ABETTING A TERRORIST ATTACK. Recently visited munich during octoberfest.
    Visited Wurzberg residency , a world heritage site, due to the largest fresco painting by tipolo. This was the residence of Bishop Prince , bishop as well as prince , THOROUGH AND THOROUGH CORRUPT, well goes to show what happens when when religion and administraton mix.
    An incredible fact came forward , both GOLDMAN AND SACHS and LEHMAN , hailed from Wurzberg. As they say poison ivy tree doesn’t produce apples

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shantanu – Great to see you.. do drop in once a while. We do miss you. Have a great time in Italy.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ditto.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I don’t think you are Shan. You are the same person who has been masquaerading on this blog with different IDs.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Forensically speaking. This can be shan

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    the script says it is Shaan. And also he says that he has no intention of being in the company of scumbags.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And Shan,

    Thanks for van Persie!!

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  • Anonymous

    First a disclaimer: I have no intention of returning to any blogs , as I have found nirvana in italian art and architecture. Flying to naples on thursday.
    However regarding afzal guru. DO REMEMBER VIVIDLY guru confessing in front of camera on NDTV. Also his wife SANG LIKE A CANARY. He was not an innocent bystander, HE HAD ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED in facilitating the parliament attack. ALSO NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THE LAW IS PRETTY CLEAR , WHEN IT COMES TO AIDING AND ABETTING A TERRORIST ATTACK. Recently visited munich during octoberfest.
    Visited Wurzberg residency , a world heritage site, due to the largest fresco painting by tipolo. This was the residence of Bishop Prince , bishop as well as prince , THROUGH AND THROUGH CORRUPT, well goes to show what happens when when religion and adminstraton mix.
    An incredible fact came forward , both GOLDMAN AND SACHS and LEHMAN , hailed from Wurzberg. As they say poison ivy tree doesn’t produce apples.

    Post Script: Prof Sankar Sen , trail blazer in STRING THEORY research has been INSULTED by the scumbag congress, vinod sharma’s paymasters by putting him in the same bracket as a SCHOOL DROP OUT(some say thrown out of diosession school after having been caught redhanded , hanky pankying with the school darwan) Sharmila Tagore.

    sleep well, MERA BHARAT MAHAN.
    I was so happy to see England trounce india in test match series.
    Dada must be saying “WHAT GOES ROUND COMES ROUND”

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  • Anonymous

    Prosecutor was helping key accused in 2G case, CBI says

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Prosecutor-was-helping-key-accused-in-2G-case-CBI-says/articleshow/18453853.cms

    NEW DELHI: In a stunning twist to the 2G case, an audio tape of a CBI senior public prosecutor purportedly advising a key accused on how to counter prosecution’s charge has emerged, breathing fresh life into the mega-swindle and bringing fresh trouble for the government.

    The tape sent to the CBI anonymously has the agency’s senior public prosecutor A K Singh speaking to Sanjay Chandra, MD of Unitech and one of the main accused in the scam case, tutoring him on how to strengthen his defence and weaken CBI’s case against him. “I have been muddling up the matters only for you,” Singh purportedly tells Chandra in the tape that has been sent for forensic investigation.

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    engricn Reply:

    The grammar of
    lions

    he
    aplomb with which the great grammarian Panini met his gory death at the hands of
    a ferocious lion is a lesson to us all. That ancient collection of animal
    fables, the Panchatantra, c. 3rd century BC, mentions his death as an accepted
    fact. There is also a most intriguing fable expounded in The Heartbeat of the
    Absolute by Osho or Bhagwan Shri Rajneesh Mahesh Yogi, in the 20th century,
    which describes the same event.

    Panini was teaching grammar to his
    pupils in his forest ashram in Taxila, when a roaring lion came bounding up to
    them. He asked his pupils to listen to the lion’s roaring and try to work out
    its grammatical form. The lion is poised, ready to pounce, the pupils are
    trembling with fear, and Panini works out the grammatical form of the roar. It
    is said that even when the lion fell upon him he continued to explain the
    grammatical form of its roaring. And as the lion devoured him he expounded on
    the grammatical form of ‘The lion kills the man.’

    Indian stamp honouring
    Panini

    Panini was the founder of modern
    grammar

    People
    have questioned the reason for Panini not making good his and his pupils’ escape
    from the lion, to which The Heartbeat of the Absolute gives a firm reply. This
    book is a commentary on the Ishavasya Upanishad, which belongs to the
    pre-Buddhist era, and it gives an insightful perspective on the liberation of
    the mind from earthly pursuits through Transcendental Meditation. All things
    belong to God. If the Beatles could become clued in to TM, then who are we to
    say nay? People like Panini think that death is certain, whether it comes today
    or tomorrow. Such people accept death unwaveringly, because it is a
    certainty.

    However, whether we agree or disagree, there is no gainsaying
    that Panini was the founder of modern grammar, and his theories still hold good
    today, 2,700 years after his gruesome end. (Osho didn’t bother to tell us what
    happened to the pupils. Maybe they decided to cut and run…)

    Detail of a Buddhist painting shows the life
    of Siddharta Gautama Buddha

    The 6th century BC was when the Buddha and
    Mahavira founded Buddhism and Jainism
    respectively

    The
    6th century BC was an eventful era. It was the time when Panini composed the
    oldest available grammar of any language (Sanskrit in this case) and when the
    Neo-Babylonian Empire in the Near East was overthrown by Cyrus, who founded the
    Persian Empire in its place. It was in this very century that Zoroaster founded
    Zoroastrianism. In India the Buddha and Mahavira founded Buddhism and Jainism
    respectively, and the occupation of the Punjab was completed by the Persian King
    Vistaspa, making it a part of the greater Gandharan Empire, while in faraway
    China Confucianism and Taoism flourished.

    Panini was born in Salatura, a
    small town identified with the ancient and original Lahur (not to be confused
    with Lahore, Punjab’s capital) situated on the banks of the River Indus.
    Alexander the Great is said to have passed through this area when he arrived in
    the Potohar district, and it was a part of the Hindu Shahiya kingdom of Ohind.
    Sir Alexander Cunningham, the founder of the Archeological Survey of India, and
    a renowned expert on Buddhist stupas, identified Salatura as Panini’s
    birthplace. Scholars disagree to a certain extent as to whether to call it
    Salatura or Lahur, but Panini states firmly at the beginning of Ashtadhyayi that
    he was born in Salatura, an area that has always produced warriors of the finest
    order.

    Alexander marches his army down the banks of
    the Indus – an early 20th century card

    Alexander the Great passed through Panini’s
    hometown when he arrived in the Potohar

    He
    had one known sibling, Pingala, who was a brilliant mathematician and a master
    of prosody. Believe it or not, he was killed by a crocodile! No one can say that
    the two brilliant sons of Shalanka and his wife Dakshi were not
    disaster-prone.

    Panini’s Ashtadhyayi formulated 3,959 rules of Classical
    Sanskrit morphology, syntax and semantics, and in its 8 chapters it was the
    grammatical branch of the Vedanga, the auxiliary scholarly branch of Vedic
    religion. It is the earliest known work on descriptive linguistics, and together
    with the work of his immediate predecesors, stands at the beginning of the
    history of linguistics itself. His theory of morphological analysis was more
    advanced than any equivalent Western theory before the mid 20th century. His
    analysis of noun compounds still forms the basis of modern linguistic theories
    of compounding, which have borrowed certain key Sanskrit terms from
    him.

    It is remarkable that concepts of theoretical
    computer science should have their origin in this Indian
    genius

    Panini’s
    work is of a brevity and completeness unmatched in any ancient grammar of any
    language, and is highly systematic and technical. His immensely sophisticated
    logical rules and techniques have been widely influential in ancient and modern
    linguistics. His reputation many centuries after his death can be ascertained by
    the fact that Hieun Tsang, the Chinese scholar-monk who visited India in the 7th
    century AD, mentions seeing a huge statue of Panini at his place of birth. He
    also writes that Panini dedicated his great work to his king, who highly
    appreciated it and announced a prize of one thousand gold coins to anyone who
    could recite the entire book. This might give an indication of the kinds of
    gifts that the king would have given to Panini himself. Unfortunately, Hieun
    Tsang did not name the king who reigned during Panini’s lifetime. And today we
    find no takers for a fresh statue of our great ancestor being put up in his
    place of birth.

    The statue of Pingala shows us a man with a
    pen and paper in his hands, as befitted a master of
    prosody

    Surya with Pingala and Dandi at his
    feet

    He
    should be thought of as the forerunner of the modern language theory used to
    specify computer languages. The Backus Normal Form was discovered independently
    by John Backus in 1959, but Panini’s notation is equivalent in its power to that
    of Backus and has many similar properties. It is indeed remarkable that concepts
    that are fundamental to today’s theoretical computer science should have their
    origin with this Indian genius. In fact algebraic reasoning, the Indian way of
    representing numbers by words, and ultimately the development of modern number
    systems in India, are linked through the structure of language.

    An
    equally intriguing personality was Panini’s younger brother Pingala, a devotee
    of Surya, the god of the sun. His Chandas Shastra is a work of 8 chapters, which
    survives only in fragments and is the earliest known treatise on Sanskrit
    prosody.

    John Eskanazi, one of the world’s best-known dealers in Indian
    and Gandharan art, exhibits in his London gallery a striking beige sandstone
    figure of Pingala, 43 cm high, dressed in the costume of a Sassanian dignitary.
    He holds a pen and paper in his hands, as befits a master of prosody. Images
    from Mathura depict him as one of two diminutive attendants of Surya. His
    appearance in the large statue shows us a man with piercing eyes and a pointed
    nose, and with a thoughtful expression on his face; an imposing figure indeed.
    There were artists who cared enough to depict him in sandstone, and so he lives
    on. There are even some images of Surya that show him wearing crocodile
    earrings…

    Ashoka’s Dharmarajika Stupa, built in the 3rd
    century BC, is now threatened by private
    construction

    Pingala’s
    treatise is at the transition between Vedic metre and the classic metre of the
    Sanskrit epics, Sanskrit being a language of great expressivenes and melody, and
    one can imagine Pingala himself composing verses in the language of which he was
    such an expert. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi did not care to describe Pingala’s end,
    but his admirers might posit a believable scenario. He could perhaps be imagined
    as reclining on the shores of a sparkling stream near the monasteries of Taxila,
    humming the opening lines to a hymn in honour of Surya… ‘You are without
    origin, middle or end. I see you with blazing fire coming forth from your mouth,
    burning this entire universe by your own radiance…’ And then snap, the wicked
    jaws of a Mugger that had waddled out from the water closes upon this great
    master!

    His Chandas Shastra presents the first known description of a
    binary numeral system, connected with the systematic enumeration of metres with
    fixed short and long syllables. His work anticipates the 17th century French
    mathematician Blaise Pascal’s Triangle as well as containing the fabulous
    Italian Leonardo Fibonacci’s “golden numbers”. (Fibonacci spread the
    Hindu-Arabic system of numbers throughout Europe in the Middle Ages.)

    To
    ask ourselves whether we are capable of paying homage to such greatness is
    perhaps futile, but at least we could refrain from supporting what is going on
    in Taxila these days, and perhaps speak out against it.

    The
    future of public access to the grand Unesco-listed Dharmarajika Stupa, built by
    Ashoka the Great in the 3rd century BC, is threatened by private construction.
    It is a victim of a dispute between the Department of Archaeology and a property
    owner. The stupa is surrounded by military installations and army residential
    quarters; a private orchard nearby has been developed by a brigadier, who has
    constructed a wall and a gate around it, which block the only entrance to this
    World Heritage site. A house has already been built within the confines of the
    wall. Less than a month ago, the signpost directing visitors to the site was
    ripped out of the ground and tossed contemptuously across the road. The
    Department of Archaeology is considering going to court over the
    matter.

    We are heirs to greatness. But we do nothing when this greatness
    is destroyed in the most wanton fashion.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Don’t know what you are trying to convey through this long you post. Are trying to say that Modi should resign and Aseemanand should be hanged ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    engrich is in the grip of a mental fever which disorients him and makes him forget that he is of Arab descent and he shouldn’t talk about his Hindu ancestors with any respect.

    Panini died a natural death at a ripe old age and even on his death bed, he was talking incessantly about grammar. So one of the assembled people told him, “you are about to die, why don’t you stop this grammar business and say ‘Rama, Rama’?

    Pat came his alert reply, “instead of saying Rama, Rama, How about saying Ramau?”

    engrich Reply:

    aseemanand is a self – confessed murderer so he should be hang like kasab.modi as a pm will be great emrassment to india.we have better than him.even in bjp like rajnath.

  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Strange…
    When a particular Bench of the SC passes Order after Order against Modi and Gujarat ..it is hailed as the triumph of justice …by the secularists.
    When the SC passes Orders against Afzal Guru ..the judicial process is questioned for being flawed …. by the secularists.
    When Guru is convicted ..there is talk of Police manufacturing evidence . When Sadhvi and Aseemanad are arrested it is hailed as acts of a great investigative agency… by the secularists
    When Guru makes a confession … confessions ere under police pressure force and coercion.. Aseemanand’s confession is true and genuine…by the secularists
    When the Congress goes through the halaal of Guru over 11 years ..it is still carrying out due process of law….Sadhvi Pragya and Aseemanand are branded Hindu terrorists even before the trial has concluded….by the secularists.
    Strange

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Perhaps, like always, you did not get the essence. The point of debate – why a man condemned to death must get all possible chances to prove his innocence. Even the slightest doubt must be re-examined. Because there is no recourse.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    It is not I but you missed the essence… And I do not make subjective sweeping observations like ‘always”. The entire legal process as per Indian Laws was exhausted in Guru’s case . Apart from the Trial all appellate avenues were gone through . He had the best legal team . Lastly he was also given the opportunity to seek Presidential pardon. The disposal of that Petition was completely in the hands of the successive UPA governments and none other.

    The real tragedy of Afzal Guru was that the congress kept him on tenterhooks for 11 years and then suddenly hanged him in such a hush hush manner . After keeping him alive of 11 years they should have shown the courage to commute it to Life. But arrogance, insensitivity to public opinion , dirty politics…… , are its hallmarks, and that is what prevented Afzal Guru from getting a justice.. even if it meant death by hanging.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    When people raised their concern, they raised from the perspective if Guru got all possible chances.

    If you were to join the debate, you could have clarified point by point how Guru got all possible chances.

    But you chose to stick to your usual rhetoric statements ( Modi blah blah).

    Somebody, I guess it was Ishwar, said that he would do a bit of study on this and would get back. That stance from a blogger is more appreciable, in a situation/case like this for a meaningful discussion.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak ji,

    it is NOT what you call ‘blah, blah’. It actually is happening all these last ten years. Every comment of a judge was lapped up and played up throughout the world as coming from Daniel come to judgement and a triumph of our justice system.

    Things changed only when the Teestas and Jaffris too got bits of the same judges’ mind and the SIT went against the diktats of the secular bandwagon.

    I suppose you are quite familiar with the story going sour for the secularsists.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    I have no problem with shorts and Tees. But I do have problem when somebody wears them to a formal cocktail.

    Everything has its time and place.

    We can discuss and trade barbs over blah blah. But not always.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    That was blah blah blah .
    But no response yet to why ” The real tragedy of Afzal Guru was that the congress kept him on tenterhooks for 11 years and then suddenly hanged him in such a hush hush manner . After keeping him alive of 11 years they should have shown the courage to commute it to Life. “

    devduttkumar Reply:

    In 2009, whatever UPA did was keeping an eye on the “upcoming” election 2014. Same in 2010. Also in 2011. Definitely in 2012. Undoubtedly in 2013.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    So the halaal was for 2014

    Anonymous Reply:

    I agree.
    but, do not invest the matter with too much of speculation because it happened to a Muslim jihadi who is now being projected by the secular class as a shining example of being a Gandhian protester.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I have tried to go thru the case documents available on the net. The language is too complicated – even the CAG report is easier to read :) .

    I’d keep trying.

    How did Geelani managed to get away from his death sentence? I would also find out more on this.

    engricn Reply:

    मैंने 2006 में हाफ़िज़ सईद के कैम्प में जाकर उनसे चार घंटे बातचीत की, उनके जलसे
    में भाषण दिया तब हिंदुस्तान में इतना हंगामा क्यों खड़ा नहीं हुआ?” कश्मीर के
    अलगाववादी नेता यासीन मलिक ने ये सवाल किया है.

    भारत जिस हाफ़िज़ सईद को 26 नवंबर को मुंबई पर हुए हमलों के लिए ज़िम्मेदार
    मानता है, उनके साथ यासीन मलिक की तस्वीरें और वीडियो प्रकाशित होने पर हंगामा खड़ा
    हो गया है.

    संबंधित समाचार

    आज़ादी से घूमना ही मेरा स्टाइल है : हाफिज़
    सईद

    हाफ़िज़ सईद को ‘श्री और श्रद्धेय कह लें
    दिग्विजय…..’

    शिंदे के बयान पर जमात-उद-दावा के गंभीर
    सवाल

    इससे जुड़ी
    ख़बरें

    टॉपिक

    भारत

    उन्होंने कहा है कि न तो उन्होंने हाफ़िज़ सईद को आमंत्रित किया था और न ये
    मुलाक़ात किसी जलसे में हुई.

    हाफ़िज़ सईद पाकिस्तान से काम करने वाले चरमपंथी संगठन जैश-ए-मोहम्मद के
    संस्थापक माने जाते हैं और भारत में वो मोस्ट वांटेड हैं. अमरीका ने भी उनकी
    गिरफ़्तारी में मदद करने वाले को एक करोड़ डॉलर का इनाम देने की घोषणा की है.

    इस्लामाबाद से बीबीसी हिंदी को दिए एक इंटरव्यू में यासीन मलिक ने सफ़ाई दी है
    कि वो अफ़ज़ल गुरू को फाँसी दिए जाने के ख़िलाफ़ इस्लामाबाद प्रेस क्लब में अनशन पर
    बैठे थे जहाँ हज़ारों दूसरे लोगों के साथ हाफ़िज़ सईद भी पहुँचे.

    संयोग?

    “जब मैंने 2006 में हाफ़िज़ सईद के कैम्प में
    जाकर उनसे चार घंटे बातचीत की, उनके जलसे में भाषण दिया तब हिंदुस्तान में इतना
    हंगामा क्यों खड़ा नहीं हुआ?”

    यासीन मलिक, कश्मीरी अलगाववादी
    नेता

    उन्होंने कहा, “वहाँ हज़ारों की तादाद में लोग आए थे. सिविल सोसाइटी, मानवाधिकार
    कार्यकर्ता और आज़ाद कश्मीर की पूरी लीडरशिप वहाँ थी. हाफ़िज़ सईद भी 15 मिनट के
    लिए आए और फिर चले गए.”

    यासीन मलिक ने कहा कि ये सच है कि वो अपने व्यक्तिगत काम से अपनी दस महीने की
    बच्ची के दस्तावेज़ (पासपोर्ट आदि) बनवाने के लिए पाकिस्तान गए थे (यासीन मलिक की
    पत्नी पाकिस्तानी हैं). लेकिन अफ़ज़ल गुरू को फाँसी की ख़बर मिलने के बाद उन्होंने
    शांतिपूर्ण प्रतिरोध करने के लिए अनशन किया.

    मलिक ने सवाल उठाया कि हंगामा अभी क्यों उठाया जा रहा है.

    यासीन मलिक ने कहा, “ये शख़्स (हफ़ीज़ सईद) 2006 में भी हिंदुस्तान के लिए मोस्ट
    वान्टेड था, सलाउद्दीन साहब (हिज़बुल मुजाहिदीन के प्रमुख) भी मोस्ट वांटेड थे. पर
    तब मैं उनके मुरीदा वाले कैम्प में गया. मैंने हफ़ीज़ सईद के साथ मीटिंग की, उनके
    मंच पर भी मैं गया. मैंने मिलिटेंट लीडरशिप से कहा कि वो शांति प्रक्रिया में
    हिस्सा लें. पर तब हिंदुस्तान में ये विवाद उठा?”

    यासीन मलिक जम्मू कश्मीर लिबरेशन फ़्रंट के नेताओं में से हैं लेकिन अब वो
    शांतिपूर्ण तरीक़े से कश्मीर की लड़ाई लड़ने का संकल्प कर चुके
    हैं.

    Anonymous Reply:

    There was more than “slightest doubt” in the Kasab case too, because no less a person than the congress general secretary, Sriman DIGVINASH SINGH said it was the handiwork of the RSS and its band of Hindu terrorists.

    The official jihadi **** of this blog, engrich urf Ram Autar too has been telling from day one that only Hindus could have killed so many by shooting them down, because Islam is a religion of peace.

    Why, then, did Kasab not get that very plausible innocence not re-examined?

    [Reply]

    devduttkumar Reply:

    There has been enough discussion on Digvijay’s comment on the incident. Karkare’s death was a deep conspiracy. His low quality bullet-proof jacket and subsequent disapearance of the jacket definitely point finger to a deep conspiracy. When Advani calls him traitor, there are enough deviants out there to carry out a mission a la muslim jihadis.

    Distorting fact has always been a handiwork of RSS, BJP and their supporters. How could you be different, despite your education, profession and age ?

    RajeevS Reply:

    RSS is anti national

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Rajeev S is anti national.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But the congressies do it up front all the time like Nagarwala getting bumped off, Shyama Prasad Mukherjee being administered poison etc.
    And Sitaram Kesari too was removed from the president’s chair when he had gone to the loo.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Or, Hiren Pandya !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Or Pilot or Scindiya or even Sanjay Gandhi.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Get a better example.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sitaram Kesari is the best example and most hilarious too.
    Imagine the incumbent congress president going to ease nature and getting de-throned before he had time to tie his langot!

    This can happen only under Sonia Gandhi’s watchful eyes.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    You call it killing a man !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kesari really died that day and soon after, he departed from this world.

  • Anonymous

    Will they elect a black Pope?

    http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_will-they-elect-a-black-pope_1799036

    [Reply]

    RajeevS Reply:

    My vote goes to Gopi. About time Vatican heard Sanskrit.

    [Reply]

    devduttkumar Reply:

    In distant past top chinese echelon and scholars learnt Sanskrit and documented top secrets in “sutras”. Even chinese historical movies talk about it. So who knows, sanskrit might have presence in vatican too !

    [Reply]

    RajeevS Reply:

    But not the way Pope Gopi will sing it

    devduttkumar Reply:

    You want Shenoy to play mridang too ?

    RajeevS Reply:

    He blows his own tooti

    Anonymous Reply:

    Very conveniently you taken the ID of Rajeev because one of blogger had claimed that the hacker might me Rajeev.

    Anonymous Reply:

    In India, what SOnia Gandhi says only goes.

    And Sonia Gandhi will never allow Gopi to become the Pope, because Gopi doesn’t like her!

    [Reply]

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Gopi only wished BJP had a President like her.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi is’nt that you, trying to get back at RajeevS, forensically speaking?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan Eventually they will because the new cardinals are coming ostly from non-european countries. In fact, I believe, the youngest cardinal is the recently anointed cardinal of Thiruvananthapuram diocese, Cleemus Thottunkal (in his low 40s). So, statistically, he has a chance ((Malayalis have beeen saying he is the next Pope!)

    The money is on Sloti, the Cardinal of Milan

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    I will vote for an Indian Pope, Because as Francois Gautier says, “In the early 1980s, when I started freelancing in south India, doing photo features on Kalaripayattu, the Ayyappa festival, or the Ayyanars, I slowly realised that the genius of this country
    lies in its Hindu ethos, in the true spirituality behind Hinduism. The average Hindu you meet in a million villages possesses this simple, innate spirituality and accepts your diversity, whether you are Christian or Muslim, Jain or Arab, French or Chinese. It is this Hinduness that makes the Indian Christian different from, say, a French Christian, or the Indian Muslim unlike a Saudi Muslim. I also learnt that Hindus not only believed that the divine could
    manifest itself at different times, under different names, using different scriptures (not to mention the wonderful avatar concept, the perfect answer to 21st century religious strife) but that they had also given refuge to persecuted inorities from across the world—Syrian Christians, Parsis, Jews, Armenians, and today, Tibetans.”

    [Reply]

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Till Advani appeared on the scene.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    and that was being magnanimous …the magnanimity from the queen of halaal

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think there is a spelling mistake, which is your common trait.

    You missed an ‘r’.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Shaving 5 times a day does not make anybody pretty or lauha purush.

    Anonymous Reply:

    does he shave five times a day — his mustache is perfectly trimmed — he should advertise for gillete

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, is it? ours is a history of thousand cuts and wounds .Some will say Advani just implemented “render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and into God the things that are God’s”

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Devdutt;
    How come Advani is pettiest? Can you please explain??

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Good thing about being around is that one gets to know people’s stance. Why I call Advani a petty man is well known on this blog. It’s not worth repeating. He does not worth our time and attention anymore.

    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS I once had a discussion on celibacy of the Catholic priests with the late Cardinal Joseph Parekattil of Ernakulam, a rishi befitting the tradition of Rishis of oyur country.I was surprised in him saying that the Church should leave it to the local/regional customs. He said that the priests of the church in India should be celibate since Indians who choose to be sanyasis follow celibacy.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I agree, but as Gandhiji’s experiments with sex showed, it is extremely difficult even for a rishi to stop looking at the opposite sex.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Gopi… Is it not that Protestant clergy is permitted to marry but not the Roman Catholic .

    Anonymous Reply:

    yes, celibacy is limited to the Roman Catholic church..also there are thousand variations of protestants – most of them do not have a central pope

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Gopi that the Protestant Church has many denominations is well known but even the Roman Catholic Church has different Orders . I recall that a Roman Catholic friend once bitterly said that Protestant Church is different religion. They worship Jesus whereas we worship the Virgin Mary.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, sort of — You are right about your friend.. actually, in the West , when they say Christian, they mean protestants. Actually, Catholics were discriminated against in US for a long time till 1950s. Also, no Catholic could win presidency because of the suspicion on loyalty – whether a catholic president will be loyal to the country or to the pope. John Kennedy was the first and only Catholic president of USA.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right that zero tolerance policy should be adopted.
    And definitely marriage should be allowed as forcing priests to remain celibate is going against the normal human nature.

    [Reply]

    engricn Reply:

    very soon

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Engrich why dont you stand for elections. The first multiple ID pope.

    You an first convert….

    [Reply]

    engricn Reply:

    gopi is better than me.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The Vatican doesn’t accept popes with Arab blood in them.

    engrich Reply:

    they hate brhmn blood as well

  • Anonymous

    Ways of the world:

    [Reply]

  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    This was not during NDA rule… where is Tehelka ?

    ” Italy firm chief held for India chopper bribes: reports “……..” India’s defence ministry said it could not immediately comment. The 560 million
    euros ($735 million) deal was to sell 12 high-security AgustaWestland choppers
    for use by India’s political leaders. The first helicopters were due to be
    delivered by December 2012. ”
    ” The first helicopters, for use by India’s political leaders, were due to be delivered by December 2012 after a 560 million euro contract was awarded in 2010. ”

    [Reply]

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Will the CVO of the Defence ministry call for the File and take it in his custody . before the paper shredder is put to work.

    [Reply]

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Saxena sahab;
    Our government is entrusting this case to CBI. will this CBI, be Special 26 – Akshay Kumar team??
    I believe, Soniaji has not become super rich, awain.
    Is there a provision in Indian law to probe, agency chief, even after retirement for wrong doings, shoddy investigation, deliberate fudging of evidence etc?? many CBI chiefs will be candidate for a probe.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Tehelka is a toilet sheet which the COngress uses… and the result is printed in the subsequent issue.

    [Reply]

    SHENOYBV Reply:

    vinoo59 Praveen Saxena • 43 minutes ago

    like other brhmn papers of india.

    Tehelka is a toilet sheet

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes we all agree to this.

    Anonymous Reply:

    After congress leaders use Tehelka as a toilet paper and throw it away, engrich uses it to clean his daadi.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    why are we buying advanced militay stuff (even though in this case it is going to be used by political leaders) from Iitaly? Last time I checked, Italy, a tiny country, did not have a superior military or military/avionics technology. Why would not we buy from US, UK, or France? Do we have any avionics/chopper experts in this blog to comment on whether this Italian stuff is any good

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Reason we buy military stuff from Italy is beacause it saves time.
    No due diligence is required, no quality check, no comparison with the similar products available elsewhere, no price bargaining. Only requirement is the stamp of Made In Italy.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    mohan, knowing the way sycophancy works here, it is quite possible that the decision maker here must have done this thinking it will please Sonia. iT is quite possible that she may not have known anything about this, or she asked for it. This reminds me of a short story in Malayalam written during the 1971 Pak war… that the Tamil Brahms were all learning Urdu — “what if Pakistan wins?”,

    Anonymous Reply:

    Only requirement is that the money should go into the correct account number.

    english Reply:

    Cricket

    Football

    E-PAPER

    HEADLINES

    Obama says 34,000 US troops to leave Afghanistan

    Dawn.com

    Time check: Tipu Sultan The Tiger of Mysore

    By Mubarak Ali | dawnmuzammil | 24th September, 2011

    0

    Hyder Ali was the founder of Mysore state
    and he ruled there from 1761 to 1782. He fought twice against the East
    India Company and defeated it. After the death of Hyder Ali, his son
    Tipu succeeded him in 1788.

    Tipu Sultan not only strengthened the kingdom but extended it by
    conquering other territories. He became a threat to the Company because
    he structured Mysore state on modern lines and challenged the growing
    power of the Company. Thus the English started negative propaganda
    against Tipu and he was portrayed as a fanatic Muslim who forcibly
    converted Hindus and demolished their temples.

    Tipu remained a controversial figure during the colonial period.
    However, new research shows that he was a liberal and tolerant ruler. He
    gave the Hindus equal rights and also treated Christians with great
    tolerance.

    Both Hyder Ali and Tipu Sultan had fully realised the expansionist
    motive of the Company and in order to be able to compete with the
    Company, Tipu trained his army on the European model. He also set up
    factories to manufacture modern weapons. Realising the importance of
    navy, he prepared a fleet to counter the Company’s naval power. He also
    made efforts to improve the agriculture sector of his state by
    introducing new irrigation techniques and granted concessions to
    peasants.

    Tipu established factories to expand the industrial sector and build
    trade relations abroad. Tipu was keen to adopt modern technology and for
    this purpose built diplomatic relations with France and asked the
    authorities there to send experts to educate his people and introduce
    them to new inventions. After the French Revolution, Tipu supported the
    new government and hoisted its flag in his capital.

    Tipu, instead of compromising with the Company, resisted the combined
    forces of the Company, the Nizam of the Deccan state and the Mahrattas.
    He was defeated and the British levied a huge compensation of three
    crore rupees on Tipu Sultan and took his two sons as hostage until he
    paid his dues. Despite these losses, Tipu didn’t give up and after some
    time he again attacked these three forces and instead of surrendering,
    preferred to fight. In 1799, he was killed in the battlefield fighting
    against the invaders.

    Tipu Sultan is also known as the Tiger of Mysore as he didn’t give up
    and fought bravely with the British. When he was dead, his body was
    still warm and gave an impression of being alive to the British
    officers. After the occupation of Mysore, the Company possessed Tipu’s
    library and his personal belongings which were sent to Calcutta and
    England

    Anonymous Reply:

    We have no avionics experts, but we have one great kite flier, Pathak G urf Devdutt……..

    [Reply]

    devduttkumar Reply:

    File an RTI application. You don’t have to be an avionics expert.

  • Anonymous

    Waqt ka pataa nahin chalta apnon ke saath
    par apnon ka pataa chalta hai waqt ke saath

    Waqt nahin badalta apnon ke saath
    par apne badal jaate hain waqt ke saath.

    [Reply]

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    beutifully said, Shenoy Sahab.

    [Reply]

  • engrich

    GOOD NEWS

    New
    Delhi: Seventeen people from Punjab and Haryana, who were on death row
    in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), landed at Delhi airport today after they were
    freed by a court.

    They were on death row since 2010 for murdering a
    Pakistani national. They were freed by a Sharjah court after paying blood money
    of over Rs.5.5 crore to the victim’s
    family.

    After reaching Delhi this morning they headed straight for
    Amritsar to offer prayers at the Golden Temple.

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    “These boys are very happy to be freed at last
    and to reach back home. We are heading to Amritsar to offer prayers at Golden
    Temple,” Dubai-based hotelier SP Singh Oberoi, who led a campaign to save the
    men from the gallows and to get them freed, said after landing at the Indira
    Gandhi International Airport (IGI) in Delhi.

    The 17 Indians – 16 from
    Punjab and one from Haryana – were allowed to walk free by a Sharjah court after
    they paid blood money (money paid as compensation to the victim’s family)
    amounting to over Rs.5.5 crore which was
    paid to the family of the Pakistani national, Misri Khan.

    They were
    convicted of murdering Misri Khan and injuring three others January 2009,
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    Two other Pakistanis were
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    The Indian men had all
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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Sincere advise:

    I was a very happy man. My wonderful girlfriend and I had been dating for over a year.
    So we decided to get married.
    There was only one little thing bothering me, her beautiful younger sister, Sofia.
    My prospective sister-in-law was twenty-two, wore very tight miniskirts and generally was bra-less.
    She would regularly bend down when she was near me. I always got more than a nice view. It had to be… deliberate, she never did it around anyone else.
    One day she called me and asked me to come over. ‘To check the wedding invitations’ she said.
    She was alone when I arrived. She whispered to me that she had feelings and desires for me that she couldn’t overcome anymore.
    She told me that she wanted me just once before I got married.
    She said, “Before you commit your life to my sister.”
    Well, I was in total shock and I couldn’t say a word.
    She said, “I’m going upstairs to my bedroom. If you want one last wild fling, just come up and have me.”
    I was stunned and frozen in shock as I watched her go up the stairs.
    I stood there for a moment then turned and made a bee-line straight to the front door.
    I opened the door and headed straight towards my car.
    I then noticed my entire future family was standing outside, all clapping!
    With tears in his eyes, my father-in-law hugged me.
    He said, “Sergio, we are very happy that you have passed our test. We couldn’t ask for a better man for our daughter. Welcome to the family my son!”
    The moral of this story is:
    Always keep your condoms in your car.:-)

    [Reply]

  • pankaj#1

    To mistrust science and deny the validity of the scientific method is to resign your job as a human. You’d better go look for work as a plant or wild animal.

    [Reply]

  • pankaj#1

    Ek ladka ek ladki ko cafe mein akele baitha dekh kar ladki ki table par gaya aur kaha:
    “kya me apke sath baith sakta hoon”??
    Ladki (chillai): nahi, main aaj raat tumhare saath nahi guzaar sakti…
    Sab log dekhne lage…
    Ladka
    … sharminda ho gaya…
    Kuch der baad ladki uske paas gayi aur maafi mangi aur kaha:
    “mein HUMAN NATURE ke upar study kar rahi hoon aur padh rahi hoon ke log sharminda ho kar kya mehsoos karte hain…”
    ladka(chillaya): what…??
    10 hajar ek raat ke..
    Bahut zyada hai..
    Kuch kam karo yaar…
    Sab log ladki ko dekh kar hansne lage…
    Aur phir ladka aahista se bola: “ab mehsoos kar khul ke..!!!

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  • pankaj#1

    many of my anonymous passtimes:
    [दूकान सच की]
    कब तक सजाए बैठे रहोगे , पटरियों पे ,
    अपनी ‘सच ‘की दूकान तुम इस बाज़ार में ,
    जहाँ झूट की बेशुमार दूकाने अपने परवान पे हैं ,
    चाहोगे देना मुफ्त में भी अगर ‘सच’ को तुम ,
    लेने वाला इसे , तुमको कोई इंसान ना मिलेगा ,||

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  • pankaj#1

    We do have our ***… here too.

    When the body was first made, all the parts wanted to be Boss. The brain said, “I should be Boss because I control the whole body’s responses and functions.”
    The feet said, “We should be Boss as we carry the brain about and get him to where he wants to go.” The hands said, “We should be the Boss because
    we do all the work and earn all the money.”

    And so it went on and on with the heart, the lungs and the eyes until finally the ******* spoke up.
    All the parts laughed at the idea of the ******* being the Boss. So the ******* went on strike, blocked itself up and refused to work.
    Within a short time the eyes became crossed, the hands clenched, the feet twitched, the heart and lungs began to panic
    and the brain fevered. Eventually they all decided that the ******* should be the Boss, so the motion was passed.
    All the other parts did all the work while the Boss just sat and passed out the shit!
    You don’t need brains to be a Boss – any ******* will do.

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  • Anonymous

    Pathak

    Yeh helicopter ghotala aapki malkin ke fatherland tak jaata hai. Kuch daal mein kaaala!
    !!a

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yah kkale mein daal hai. Italian style.

    Sonia Gandhi’s gift to the bewaqoof Indian nation, after her earlier gift, Q.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Ek Minister Ki Biwi Bahut Hi Sunder Aur Sexy Thi.
    .
    .
    Ek Din Minister Ka Najane Kya Mood Bana Or Usne Patni Ko Bulaya Aur Pucha.
    .
    .
    Minister: “Sach Sach Batao Tumne Hamare Sath Kitni Baar Bewafai Ki Hai…..?.
    .
    .
    .
    Patni Kuch Soch Ke Boli: “Ji Sirf 3 Baar”
    .
    .
    Minister Man Hi Man Mein Khush Hua Ki Chalo Itni Khubsoorat Hone Ke Baad Bhi Sirf 3
    Baar Hi Bewafai Ki, Fir Bhi Usne Pucha
    .
    .
    Minister: “Kab Kab
    .
    .
    Patni: “Ek Bar Jab Aapke Dil Ka Operation Hua Tha To Main Shehar Ke Sabse Bade Dr. Ko Manane Gayi Thi”
    .
    .
    Minister: “Hmm
    .
    .
    Patni: “Agli Baar Jab Aap Jail Mein Band The Aur Rihayi Ke Koi Chances Na The To Judge Ke Pass Gayi Thi”
    .
    .
    Minister: “Aur Teesri Bar
    .
    .
    Patni: Sharmate Hue: “Jab Aapko Sarkar
    Banani Thi Aur Aapke Paas 76 MLAs Kam The

    [Reply]

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    wow. great.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    A true pativrata wife who will do anything for her husband.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    GOI “considering” canceling Malik’s passport!!!

    This is banana (or was it Mango?) republic

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    India bought helicopters Obama rejected as ‘costly’

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/India-bought-helicopters-Obama-rejected-as-costly/articleshow/18475123.cms

    NEW DELHI: US president Barack Obama had found a variant of the AW-101 helicopters too exorbitant to pass muster in 2009. But the Indian government had no such qualms while inking the Rs 3,546-crore deal for 12 plush AW-101 helicopters just a year later in 2010.

    The American “Marine One”, the call sign of the US Marine Corps helicopter which ferries the US President, would of course have been much more high-tech and “souped-up” helicopter compared to the Indian variant.

    [Reply]

    saffronKachha Reply:

    Last heard, another AW-101
    variant was again in contention to bag the US Navy’s latest programme
    to develop the “Marine One Presidential Helicopter”.

    —–
    I wanted to buy a Bentley that Ambani found too costly. Ofcourse that variant of Bentley for Ambani would have come with gold plated dashboard and body and a diamond studded steering.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Wanted to blast that comely Journalist- Sagarika Ghosh- but enough people have already blasted her. would like to paste one comment from other respondent..
    “closing the mind “. Most appropriate title, as it perfectly describes you! you have closed your mind to truth & facts long back.Still you call yourself a journalist. For a journalist, truth, facts are prime. Only language skills do not make a journalist.

    [Reply]

    saffronKachha Reply:

    What’s the latest that got you rattled ?

    [Reply]

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Hey Kachha,
    It is Sagarika’s column in HT. Visit it .

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sadly Sagarika Ghosh is not the only journalist who has closed her mind.

    [Reply]

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    The right amount of cash … can open the minds of these so called journalists.

    [Reply]

  • amar

    Ex-Air Chief Tyagi was bribed to swing chopper deal, Italy probe report says

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/exair-chief-tyagi-was-bribed-to-swing-chopper-deal-italy-probe-report-says/1073394/0

    The 64-page report, filed in the tribunal of Busto Arsizio city for the
    arrest of Finmeccanica CEO Giuseppe Orsi, gives details of the case
    being investigated by Italian prosecutors and alleges that the then air
    chief, S P Tyagi, was instrumental in swinging the deal and was paid —
    “certain amount of money, not yet quantified” — through intermediaries.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good article. Thanks for the link Amar.
    The article clearly says that the technical requirements were tweaked in such way that only this comapny, AgustaWestland gets the contract.

    [Reply]

    Amar Reply:

    I am innocent: ex-IAF chief SP Tyagi on VVIP chopper deal

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/I-am-innocent-ex-IAF-chief-SP-Tyagi-on-VVIP-chopper-deal/Article1-1010923.aspx

    ===

    Tyagi said the “staff qualitative requirements for the VVIP choppers
    were frozen in 2003, much before I assumed the office of Chief of Air
    Staff, and the IAF did not change any requirements after that.”

    [Reply]

    devduttkumar Reply:

    The Air chief says that the Spec ( 18000 ft to 15000 ft ) was changed because only one helicopter qualified that spec. But the said helicopter did not have the requisite height as desired by SPG. The spec was brought down to bring in more competition. And all specs were frozen in 2003 before he became the air chief.

    Shockingly, his name is mentioned in Italian charge sheet.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    This case is getting curiouser and curiouser. Bribe was definitely paid, who got that money is the question?

    devduttkumar Reply:

    From my own experience, I can tell you money must have changed hands.

    Here is a typical situation :

    1) Competition is too high. So the manufacturer keeps a provision for “expenses”.
    2) They try to find some connections who could swing the deal.
    3) People who have very remote connection ( without any power to swing ) promise to swing the deal.
    4)

    A)The manufacturer is desperate, so falls for the trap.

    Even if the client is strict and goes for a clean deal (apparently). But that remote connection guy demands the money.

    B) There is no 3rd party. The order is placed. Now the question comes what to do with the “expense provision”. Now somebody in the supplier side tries to find a connection who could channelise this money in a circular manner.

    -

    I have a feeling, this case falls in 4B.

    It happens in defence, railways, infact anywhere large money is involved. I know people who do not hesitate asking for 2-5 crores just like that even if they hardly have any power to get the contract. And the manufacturer falls for it.

    Delhi is full of these such people.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Is it really possible that such big deal will go through

    without any backdoor involvement of a politician or a top bureaucrat?

    devduttkumar Reply:

    It’s possible. I have done few fairly large deals, though not of this magnitude. I have done it without paying any money to the politicians. Though I have made presentations to them telling how the Govt. could save money on our proposal.

    Once a nephew of a politician tried to play smart and tried to get money out of me, but I knew I would get the contract in any case. So I just played tough and pretended as if I was not interested in the business. But once certain things are recorded as file notings people can not change them. To get those kind of info, low level staff are sufficient. And one can play tough with so called middlemen.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Probably, I have asked this question in past as well.

    How much would it cost for the BJP to hire your services? You manage to come up with ‘incredible’ logic to cover the behinds of the most corrupt government in our post independence history.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    BJP lost me because I saw them too close at high level.

    Trust me they are nothing like what you tend to believe.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, no one is here for public service. If and when they get in power again, they would need professionals like you.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    A whole generation in BJP must go before it becomes a party of my taste. I will wait and see what the second generation in BJP does. The oldies spend too much of time in planning conspiracies(real ones).

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hopefully, the next generation would make as much money for themselves and the party as Congress. That’s when your services would be solicited. You couldn’t be of much help to a Anna Hazare, isn’t it?

    Btw, while we are at it, could you cite some examples of the real conspiracies hatched by the oldies of BJP, that most of us won’t know about. Please avoid the cash-for-vote issue. I promise that I won’t ask supplementary question on them – other senior members may follow it up.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Godhra ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    :-)

    devduttkumar Reply:

    There were too many. It was like staple diet for those big leaders.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Therefore, the congress which you support so passionately has not allowed you to “get too close at high level”, because the congress has not “lost you”. Yet in these nine years!!!!!

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Way better, individually and collectively at the top level.

    vijay ! Reply:

    UP has more such people. The Khanshamma to the driver to the maid can swing contracts ok as they claim…

    devduttkumar Reply:

    It’s true.

  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Pankajji
    To your query below.
    If I recall correctly as per service rules there is a rule that if a central govt employee has done any misconduct which is liable for a vigilance inquiry he can be hauled within 4 years of his retirement. An act of negligence which led to financial loss can be punished within 2 years of retirement. However criminal acts of malfeasance or misconduct are liable to be punished under criminal laws and there should be no limitation for that.
    The latest scam shows that the present govt is run by a Mafia of the most Corrupt. The PM is the most shameless PM we are seeing… who probably has no concern with his duties and responsibilities as the custodian of the Nation’s affairs.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks Saxena sahab;
    The allegations against ACM-Tyagi, reminds me the crusade against General Singh, who retired few months back. he was also blamed for Tetra trucks purchase etc. Ultimately, real cheats were zeroed on. no No, they were just conduits, real money went somewhere else. Now, defence deals are mega deals, and vultures in our political set up have fixed their eyes on these contracts. How long one can live upon discovery of India royalty?? Vadra and Rahul Gandhi, no journalist even breath or whisper abpout them. Tehalka, will conspire to trap laxman bangaru and joo deo but shivers in front of these rascals. Journalists, my foot.

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  • engrich

    Hyder Ali was the founder of Mysore state
    and he ruled there from 1761 to 1782. He fought twice against the East
    India Company and defeated it. After the death of Hyder Ali, his son
    Tipu succeeded him in 1788.

    Tipu Sultan not only strengthened the kingdom but extended it by
    conquering other territories. He became a threat to the Company because
    he structured Mysore state on modern lines and challenged the growing
    power of the Company. Thus the English started negative propaganda
    against Tipu and he was portrayed as a fanatic Muslim who forcibly
    converted Hindus and demolished their temples.

    Tipu remained a controversial figure during the colonial period.
    However, new research shows that he was a liberal and tolerant ruler. He
    gave the Hindus equal rights and also treated Christians with great
    tolerance.

    Both Hyder Ali and Tipu Sultan had fully realised the expansionist
    motive of the Company and in order to be able to compete with the
    Company, Tipu trained his army on the European model. He also set up
    factories to manufacture modern weapons. Realising the importance of
    navy, he prepared a fleet to counter the Company’s naval power. He also
    made efforts to improve the agriculture sector of his state by
    introducing new irrigation techniques and granted concessions to
    peasants.

    Tipu established factories to expand the industrial sector and build
    trade relations abroad. Tipu was keen to adopt modern technology and for
    this purpose built diplomatic relations with France and asked the
    authorities there to send experts to educate his people and introduce
    them to new inventions. After the French Revolution, Tipu supported the
    new government and hoisted its flag in his capital.

    Tipu, instead of compromising with the Company, resisted the combined
    forces of the Company, the Nizam of the Deccan state and the Mahrattas.
    He was defeated and the British levied a huge compensation of three
    crore rupees on Tipu Sultan and took his two sons as hostage until he
    paid his dues. Despite these losses, Tipu didn’t give up and after some
    time he again attacked these three forces and instead of surrendering,
    preferred to fight. In 1799, he was killed in the battlefield fighting
    against the invaders.

    Tipu Sultan is also known as the Tiger of Mysore as he didn’t give up
    and fought bravely with the British. When he was dead, his body was
    still warm and gave an impression of being alive to the British
    officers. After the occupation of Mysore, the Company possessed Tipu’s
    library and his personal belongings which were sent to Calcutta and
    England

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Tippu is a bigot, a Muslim fundamentalist, who carried on expeditions into Malabar and destroyed hundreds of Hindu temples and Christian churches. He also forced the local Hindus and Christians to convert to Islam.

    All his generosity to Shringeri mutt is fake and secular inventions. He gave some land to the mutt in exchange of loans he borrowed from the SHankaracharya of the mutt.

    [Reply]

    engrich Reply:

    Tippu is a bigot

    bullshit and lie.a jansanghi propoganda,who always helped britishers to divide society.after indepence looting country with both hands.

    d on expeditions into Malabar and destroyed hundreds of Hindu temple

    another lie.his palace was in front of temple.he always helped hindu religious places .he was freedom fighter and developer.

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    engrich Reply:

    hindus converted because of hindu apartheid social system.not because of state force.

  • Amar

    There’s a scandal, people must know about it: SP Tyagi

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/There-s-a-scandal-people-must-know-about-it-Ex-IAF-chief–SP-Tyagi/Article1-1010923.aspx

    -

    Maintaining that there were no changes between 2004 and 2007, he
    said, “If you remember in 2000, the Defence Minister was George
    Fernandes, he use to go to Siachen and other places. So it was thought
    that VIPS will go to Siachen. So till 18000 feet the plane should
    operate.

    “If Prime Minister accompanies them, SPG will also go. His PS will
    also go. So what should be its weight and other technicalities. So I
    don’t know about these things. But there was a talk about 18,000 feet.
    When in 2000 tender action was taken they got to know that nobody in the
    world builds a plane that operates at 18,000 feet only. In the entire
    world, a French plane was there which could operate at 18,000 ft,” he
    said.

    In 2003, Government said it is not proper. SPG said cabin weight of
    the copter is low and they will not be able to stand in it, he said,
    adding that the SPG wanted to be involved in the selection process.

    These changes were made in 2003 before he took over, Tyagi said.

    [Reply]

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Undoubtedly… this is an attempt to politicize it .. knowing well that this line will find support from the present political establishment.

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  • Anonymous

    How UPA is pushing India into a public health disaster

    http://www.firstpost.com/india/how-upa-is-pushing-india-into-a-public-health-disaster-623867.html

    [Reply]

    devduttkumar Reply:

    You call it foresight ?

    -

    …….He says that an MNC was working on a drug to sell
    in India and CIPLA wanted to join hands, but the former was disinclined.
    According to him, this is an ideal situation for the government of
    India to issue compulsory license (break the patent) and let Indian
    companies make generic copies that would not cost more than a fraction
    of the the original drug.

    -
    Sounds like another myopic Vodafone case. Anyway, UPA’s big healthcare thrust programme has been pending for last 3 years. It may come up soon. This article looks like a prelude.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Anything with a sarkari tag can’t work at the same level of efficiency as a private company – and healthcare is no exception. Higher allocation in budget to this sector may help.

    Besides, Compulsory License is also a concept which would (negatively) affect a number of big pharma companies. I haven’t got a problem with this concept for the larger benefit of the society – the patent holders of drugs could be allowed the monopoly for a max. of (say) two years to recover the cost of R&D etc.

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  • Anonymous

    “Besides A. Maino & siblings, the Italian probe has identified a son in law of an opposition leader whom A. Maino had included as insurance policy.”: Dr. Subramanian Swamy.

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  • Anonymous

    Some disturbing questions are raised as Augusta Westland helicopter deal hits the headlines once again.

    > Why CBI was not asked to probe the deal when the first reports of corruption came up last year?

    > Should the MoD only act when Italian government carries out the arrest and not before though it fully knew of the progress of the investigation?

    > The Minister of Defence has repeatedly assured the nation of cleaning up the process of defence procurement. But apparently allegations of corruption are surfacing in deal after deal. Is the Minister not accountable the nation for this state of affairs?

    >When General VK Singh as army chief took up the issue of corruption in defence he became the target of organised mudslinging. What specific actions have been taken by the government since then to proceed against the culprits in already reported cases of corruption?

    > Is not the government itself accountable for serial episodes of corruption popping up every day? So how about the accountability of the Prime Minister?

    http://www.colhariharan.org/2013/02/quick-take-corruption-in-westland.html

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  • Anonymous

    Rajiv Gandhi lost the election because of a defence deal scandal connecting him to bribes paid by Italians.

    Now will Sonia Gandhi too lose the elections because of another defence deal connecting her to bribes paid by Italians?

    Is history repeating itself?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Not only she will lose, her baby Rahul will also lose in forthcoming election.

    [Reply]

    devduttkumar Reply:

    If wishes were horses….

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    Pathak g would be king

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    or even Rajya Sabha MP..

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well the new fauj of Baby G has gone for gen next… manish tewari and his gang. Ambika SOni and the old timers like SM Krishana etc have been sidelined.

  • Anonymous

    This joke is copied from a Pakistani website posted by a Pakistani.

    ”An Afghan, upon landing at Islamabad Airport, introduced himself to a
    Pakistan Immigration Officer, as Ex-Minister of Ports & Shipping of
    Afghanistan.
    The Pakistani Officer was surprised, and asked: “But there is no sea in
    Afghanistan. How can you be the Ex-Minister of Ports & Shipping?
    The Afghan replied: “Oye Haramzaade ki aulad, don’t you have a Minister for
    Law & Justice in Pakistan?””

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  • vijay !

    WILL BANGARU LAXMAN AND 1 LAKH RUPEES BE INVOKED TO HIDE THE LOOT OF 4500000000 RUPEES?

    The Italian connection to the copter kickbacks hints that there could be many a son in law or son in high places having fun at the cost of the mango people.

    I have a feeling Tehelka and the fake 50 thousand paid to Bangaru Laxman would be dished out soon to divert attention.

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  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————

    ~~~Can the UPA bear another BOFORS Italian made baggage?~

    ————————————————————————

    A nice thought to have before I stroll of to the tennis court…

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  • vijay !

    Mercy pleas of four Veerappan associates rejected by President Pranab Mukherjee: report

    ~~~ Pranab is turniogn out to be quite a guy!

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  • Anonymous


    Muslim-majority town in Gujarat votes for Narendra Modi’s BJP

    In Salaya, Jamnagar 27 Muslims won their seats in the corporation contesting for the BJP. Narendra Modi’s party will, for the first time, govern the local corporation in Salaya, a town where Muslims form 90 percent of the population.

    One of the winning candidates said “I was confident about myself, about my decision. I knew if I joined hands with Mr Modi, it will mean more benefits for the town and more development.”

    With a population of over 33,000, the town till a decade ago was notorious for smuggling at its small-time port. Other than the anti-terror squad, nobody seemed to be looking out for Salaya. Roads, electricity, water were in short supply. Now, concrete roads, uninterrupted power, streetlights have made dramatic appearances.

    ———————————

    Now, if this trend continues, Congress would struggle to fool the people for too long in the name of secularism.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    well, one cannot fool all the people all the time
    My take is that BJP has a clearly visible, easily achievable victory if they put Modi as the man and campaign on development, efficiency, growth, inclusiveness, and covering these under the flag, Illustrious past of India, exciting possibility of India (they should leave the Janmabhoomi temple issue to courts and cases)

    [Reply]

    engricn Reply:

    it shows muslims are ready to mix to avoid voilence,something high caste hindus are not ready at any cost.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Modi does what he says
    ” Justice for all appeasement for none. Minimum government maximum governance.”
    Development and prosperity in Gujarat is all inclusive. Whoever will work hard will benefit, people who only complain will be left behind .

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    people who only complain will be left behind

    not only in Gujarat, but elsewhere as well – very nicely summed up!!

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  • Anonymous

    Tumhari Himmat Kaise Hui?
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    PATNI – Tumhari Himmat kaise hui pados wali ke saath Film dekhne ki?
    PATI – Pagli, Aaaj kal Biwi Bacchon ke saath dekhne layak film banti kahan hai…?

    [Reply]

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ha Ha.

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  • Anonymous

    UPA never fails to surprise. IndiaToday says:

    Govt justifies protecting errant politicians, says barring them will destabilise Centre

    Mr. Saxena – please don’t get agitated about this. Politicians spend a fortune to get elected, they should be allowed to complete their term.

    Read more at:http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/sitting-legislators-convicted-mps-mlas-centre-pil-supreme-court/1/249989.html
    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/sitting-legislators-convicted-mps-mlas-centre-pil-supreme-court/1/249989.html

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, they are at least honest in admitting that barring errant politicians will destabilize government. Earlier our PM had admitted that they tolerate corruption because of compulsions of coalition. Important for this government is to stay in power by whatever means and in bargain if huge looting of the tax payers money is taking place, they are ready to pay that price.

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  • pankaj#1

    Remember, not long back, may be few months back only, some people will raise topic of Narendra Modi or Advani, having, PM aspirations. This was said derisively making a fun of them. no longer I hear this strain. What has changed?? Now, some of them say, Advani should be given chance than Modi. All these people are really afraid of Modi and do not want him to come to center so that, same anarchy continues, which became hallmark of UPA-2. Anonymous and people with multiple IDs think, that if UPA remain in power, they will continue to fish in the troubled water and may be able to catch a fat fish. Modi scare them because of his competence and no nonsense attitude. He has turned crony capitalism and appeasement brand of politics redundant. Country needs a change, very urgently, may be even before -14.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Open Modi Administration to scrutiny to know about crony capitalism. It’s still a BLACK BOX.

    Check out how many RTI applications are pending.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I would rather see what is out in the open.

    [Reply]

    devduttkumar Reply:

    That too will come when the “NORTH KOREAN packaging” falls apart.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ‘ when the packaging falls appart’ . If wishes were horses …

    Anonymous Reply:

    Itni mat lo…:-) :-)

    he would again disappear from the blog and we’d be left with engrich and some fake IDs

    devduttkumar Reply:

    I come when I have time. I don’t disappear because somebody niggles me. By now you should have known me.

    Anonymous Reply:

    just kiddin’… however, it’s great fun to have u around.

    See u tmrw now!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    though we rarely agree but I have always enjoyed interacting with you.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Same here.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Let’s see.
    ( yours is a forced one. Differentiate )

    Anonymous Reply:

    Earlier you were talking about conspiracy theories of BJP and now you have come up with one of your own. Madhav Singh Solanki, once a very tall leader of Congress in Gujarat has no standing in Gujarat politics any more.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Recall how your PACKAGED CM was too eager to appease him

    Anonymous Reply:

    He is (probably) talking about Purshottam Solanki.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    yes

    Anonymous Reply:

    He is (probably) talking about Purshottam Solanki.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Devduttji;
    Aap to naraz ho gaye. Please enlighten me about that blackbox. well, starting an ill intentioned litigation is passtime of great many Indians, just for harrasment sake. Nevertheless, if there is an RTI, it should be responded. I believe, Modi should have some official to look after it. Nobody should be above law, though, I hear that convicted people can remain legislatures and continue to enjoy perks from state, till next election. Reminds me of Maya Kondani, who was sent to jail. But Modi is a busy person and giving a lot of results and a heart burn to other politicians.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Check out if RTI “should be” is being done by the Packaged CM or not.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Devduttji,
    My intention is/ was not to annoy you. It was just a simple observation to which, it seems, that you have taken umbrage.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    No..no… I am not annoyed. Why should I? I get into debates voluntarily and try to maintain peer respect.

    Just that I am a great admirer of precision bombing.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ‘ Modi scares them beacause of his competence and no nonsense attitude’ . You have hit the nail on the head.

    [Reply]

    dronacharya Reply:

    Quote:

    Another Narendra Modi sweep: with 24 Muslim candidates,
    BJP wins big

    Headlining Tuesday’s victory is the Salaya municipality
    in the Jamnagar district of Saurashtra, where 90 per cent of the population is
    Muslim. For the 27 seats at stake, the BJP put up 24 Muslim candidates, who
    were all successful. The Congress, which has won the town elections for
    decades, did not win a single seat.

    In the state elections in December, Mr Modi had not
    fielded a single Muslim candidate, allowing the Congress to question his
    secularism. The BJP had countered that candidates were picked on the basis of
    whether they were likely to deliver
    constituencies.

    —————————————————————————————

    Unquote:

    Some readers must be
    amazed why Muslims in Gujarat opted to take a ticket from Modi, why they
    contested as BJP candidate and who are those Muslims who still vote for such
    characters. I tell you why.

    At the outset, civic polls
    should not be taken as a base for people’s opinion. These elections are
    contested on various local agendas and cost and creed play a vital role in such
    polls. Also, Gujarat Parivartan
    Party (GPP) leader Keshubhai Patel’s claim that BJP indulged in
    malpractices to win in the recent civic polls is an important fact can not be
    totally ruled out.

    Coming
    to the Muslims who touch Modi’s feet and take his blessings, who contest
    elections on his ticket and who present him caps to wear which he even reject to
    accept, one should not be surprised or feel disturbed at all. Such characters
    who sell their conscience for few rupees or dollars or rials are present in
    every country and every community. Such selfish guys who give an edge to their
    personal interests over the interest of their community are quite a few in
    number in other communities as well.

    Also
    it should be remembered that one cannot and should not be considered to be a
    Muslim merely on the basis of his Muslim name. I have mentioned in one of my
    posts long back that there are many examples of such characters who were a bad
    patch on Muslim community yet we counted them as Muslims. The killer of Imam
    Hussain AW, the grandson of the Holy Prophet PBUH, is mentioned as a Muslim in
    the pages of history. The killer of Hazrat Uthman who killed him in a mosque and
    whose name I do not immediately remember was also recognized as a Muslim. Going
    back to yester years or decades, Abdul Kareem Chagla, the former education
    minister, who was strongly against minority character of AMU was very much a
    Muslim. Coming to the current era, both Shahnawaz and Mukhtar Naqvi are Muslims,
    the later coming from most distinguished Syed community of Muslims. Please don’t
    get confused by name. According to my view a person who acts against the
    interests of Muslim community or the ethics of the religion should never be
    considered a Muslim despite his having a very attractive Muslim name.

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  • hindu

    An Emirati father who tortured his daughter to death has been sentenced to death by firing squad, UAE daily 7Days reported on Wednesday.

    The Dubai Court of First Instance found Hamad Saod, 29, guilty of torturing and murdering his eight-year-old daughter, Wadeema.

    Saod’s lover and co-defendant, Al Anood Mohammad Al Ameri, 27, was
    also found guility and sentenced to life in prison. She gave birth to a
    son in custody.

    The pair were cleared of hiding the girl’s body, which was discovered in the desert three months after she was killed.

    UAE daily Gulf News reported the judgement remains subject to appeal within 15 days.

    Wadeema and her seven-year-old sister, Meyra, were subjected to
    severe physical abuse, includng being beaten iron rods and scalded with
    boiling water.

    The crime was uncovered only after Meyra, who was left with 10% permanent disability, told a relative of the six-month ordeal.

    Meyra said the last time she saw her sister was when her unconscious
    body was carried out their studio flat in International City.

    During the trial, police revealed the horrific conditions of the flat where the girls were tortured.

    “We found a bar used to beat the girls and two irons used to burn and
    torture them. There was only one bed and that meant the girls were
    sleeping on floor,” a police officer testified.

    The shocking case prompted UAE Vice President and Dubai ruler, Sheikh
    Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, to issue a new child abuse law named
    after Wadeema.

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  • dronacharya
  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Now, Samar halankar is equating Akbaruddin Owaisi with Togadia.
    Namoone ke liye:
    ‘Arre, we Muslims did not run to Pakistan… this country was ours, it is ours, it will stay ours… if we go, we will not go empty handed. We will take the Taj Mahal, the Red Fort, the Qutb Minar. What will be left? That broken-down Ram temple in Ayodhya, the naked statues of Ajanta… Oh Hindustan,
    we are 25 crore, you are 100 crore, right? Okay, remove the police for 15 minutes and we’ll show you who has more courage, more power.’ .. Owaisi… this was on December, 2011.
    Now, fast forward, Praveen Togadis:
    A similar police case was made out against a certain 56-year-old Pravin Togadia after he had this to say in Jammu and Kashmir’s Rajouri district on March 6, 2011: “If today anyone demands a Pakistan on this land, the response will come from lakhs of villages, as it came from hundreds of Gujarati villages after Godhra… the security of Hindus in Srinagar is not Srinagar, it is the power of 100 crore Hindus across India.” This article claim, occured in M2011.
    I understand that both these dates are wrong. this much for due diligence from Halankar.
    Now, who is toxic here. Owaisi or Togadia??
    And why halankar is frothing at mouth and claiming both of them to be equal?? Can discerning reader see the difference???
    But for our psuedos, Akbar, a lumpean person, with street violence, Chakubazi, pistolbazi and an oncologist/ Neurosurgeon, with much better career ahead of him, if he had not felt affection for his motherland, are same or in other words, by congress standard worse than Owaisi. Why??
    If, state is secular in words and spirit, it will not tolerate owaisi and Togadia. owiasi is spewing venom since long, Tasleema nasreen and so on and so forth. Can somebody tell me about Togadia’s transgressions?
    Now,if our politicos, who claim to be secular, breast beat, about their credentials, and for BJP have great dislike, had been true to their words, Togadia and other people had no basis to arise and survive.

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    किया.

    ऑस्ट्रेलिया की क्रिकेट टीम चार टेस्ट मैचों की सिरीज़ के लिए भारत के दौरे पर
    है. चेन्नई में बोर्ड अध्यक्ष एकादश के खिलाफ़ खेले जा रहे प्रैक्टिस मैच में
    ऑस्ट्रेलिया की पारी पहले दिन मंगलवार को सिर्फ 241 रनों पर ही सिमट गई.

    संबंधित समाचार

    सचिन अब भी क्रिकेट के भगवान

    क्या ये सहवाग के लिए आखिरी मौका है?

    गंभीर बाहर, वीरु-भज्जी टीम में

    टॉपिक

    क्रिकेट

    ऑस्ट्रेलिया को सस्ते में निपटाने में ऑलराउंडर परवेज़ रसूल की प्रमुख भूमिका
    रही जिन्होंने सात विकेट चटकाए.

    ‘कड़वा अनुभव’

    ये वही परवेज़ रसूल हैं जिन्हें साल 2009 में बंगलौर पुलिस ने विस्फोटक सामग्री
    रखने के संदेह में हिरासत में ले लिया था.

    बंगलौर के चिन्नास्वामी स्टेडियम में स्कैनर ने उनके बैग में विस्फोटक होने का
    संकेत दिया था जिसके आधार पर पुलिस ने उन्हें पकड़ लिया था.

    लेकिन बाद में बैग से कुछ नहीं मिला था और फोरेंसिक लैब ने भी उनके बैग में
    विस्फोटक का कोई अवशेष नहीं पाया था. इसके बाद उन्हें क्लीन चिट देते हुए छोड़ दिया
    गया था.

    मीडिया खबरों के मुताबिक छूटने के बाद रसूल ने कहा था कि उनके लिए वो कड़वा
    अनुभव था और सभी कश्मीरी युवाओं को चरमपंथी न समझना चाहिए.

    रसूल का कमाल

    चेन्नई की पिच पर स्पिनरों को फायदा मिला

    मंगलवार को चेन्नई की विकेट पर भारतीय स्पिनरों को अच्छी मदद मिली और रसूल ने
    उसका भरपूर फायदा उठाया.

    रसूल ने 45 रन देकर सात विकेट लिए. उनके अलावा सरबजीत लाडा को दो विकेट और
    स्टूअर्ट बिन्नी को एक सफलता मिली. ऑस्ट्रेलियाई बल्लेबाज़ों के आक्रामक अंदाज़ से
    भी रसूल को फायदा मिला क्योंकि बल्लेबाज़ों ने संभल कर खेलने की ज्यादा कोशिश नहीं
    की.

    ऑस्ट्रेलिया की तरफ़ से ओपनर एड कॉवन ने सबसे ज्यादा 58 रन बनाए जबकि स्टीव
    स्मिथ ने 41 और मैथ्यू वेड ने 35 रनों का योगदान दिया.

    पिछले साल ऑस्ट्रेलिया ने भारत को 4-0 से टेस्ट सिरीज में हराया था.

    रसूल ऑफ स्पिन गेंदबाजी करते हैं और दाएं हाथ के बल्लेबाज़ हैं. इस सीज़न रणजी
    ट्रॉफी में उन्होंने 600 रन बनाए और 33 विकेट भी लिए.

    बुधवार को रसूल का जन्मदिन है और वो 24 साल के हो जाएंगे.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Reading, book by Prof. Anatole Lieven, Pakistan, A Hard Country, a self acknoledging, Pakistan supporter.
    Anyone, including Indophiles, Indophobes, Ravi, Engtrich and our own V… would like to know more about present Pakistan, are welcome. I will let them know, what is Pakistan, or that warped , miscontrused, Islam, ( Islam, has its large short comings). Any taker??

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  • Amar

    Italians took girlfriend, money route to SP Tyagi

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Italians-took-girlfriend-money-route-to-SP-Tyagi/Article1-1011370.aspx

    ==
    The “relationship” between the Tyagis and the go-betweens used by
    AgustaWestland started in 2001, when Carlo Gerosa — a middleman — met
    Julie at a wedding in Lugano, Italy. It was in 2000-01 that IAF talked
    about need for VVIP choppers.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    There was an interesting comment made yesterday and I could not miss it as it echoed my own feelings. That the Govt of Italy should admired , that in spite of severe financial problems , it chose to take action on the helicopter deal against its own Nationals , aware that it ran the risk of getting the deal aborted . It still took action and did not brush it under the carpet because of its resolve to fight corruption.
    I strongly feel that if we wish to curb the mega corruption .. we have look at the nature and source of money which comes in through FII and FDI routes . A lot of that money is Indian scam money which goes out through Hawala and various money laundering routes . And therefore GAAR should be welcomed.Even if we have to compromise with Economic Growth we should not permit scam money to be laundered.
    We also need to have a strong Real Estate Regulation Act and an independent Regulator as it is this sector where all the money gets absorbed.
    And of course as Ishwar .points out ..part of the remedy also lies in CHALI HAWA NAMO NAMO . We need the uncompromising ruthlessness of NAMO ..”na main khaata hoon na khaney deta hoon”

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Bribery per say might not have been such an issue in this case in Italy. But an individual ( CEO ) getting richer beyond a proportion through these deals might have caused the heart burn. It was more of pulling the CEO down rather than paying bribes for the contracts.

    What is also worrying is that a part of money seemed to have come through fake defence offset contracts. A good concept to make the country self-sufficient in defence through defence offset projects will be spoiled.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Could you please elaborate on the ‘fake’ defence offset contract in this case, please? Who signed this contract and who made the money?

    Disclaimer: I am aware of the defence offset concept.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Ishwar I am aware of cases where kickbacks are given in foreign banks.

    a) Then the bureaucrat’s cousin floats an export company which sends some goods- sometimes just Packaged CD’s (mostly garbage) as software exports

    b) The money is sent to this export company by the kickback giving company as a payment for goods purchased.

    In Tyagi’s case since his cousins too had an export and import company the same route would have been taken.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    PathakG is talking about a defence offset contract here. From what I understand, that can’t be signed between the cousin of a bureaucrat or an air chief. It could only be signed between the defence equipment sellers and government.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Ok! I understand…

    I was just telling you one of the many ways kickbacks are routed back to India in cases of foreign purchase. Most of the foreign companies refrain from the hawala route and giving cash as it dirties them in the eyes of the police of their own countries.

    Normally the agent and the liason officers devise the ways.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Black money/Scam money going out through havala and routed

    back through FII and FDI is a very common practice adopted by many businessmen.

    Recent case where SEBI has frozen two accounts of Sahara is almost

    similar where it seems the Sahara owners had invested their own black money in their own company using fictitious names as investors.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mr Saxena,

    You have rightly diagnosed the disease. At least a big proportion of the FII money is the black money generated in our country and then routed back through tax-havens. GAAR was supposed to put a check on such things. However, the government has decided to push its implementation till no sooner than 2016.

    The real estate sector also needs a strong and effective regulator on the lines of TRAI. Again, the govt. so far has shown no urgency on this front.

    Just these two steps would massively arrest the mega-corruption that’s going on undeterred. These could be called real reforms. Allowing Walmart’s of the world to gain entry in our market could hardly be called one.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Ishwar so rightly said . The govt is not giving the reforms it needs.Lokpal .. Real Estate Regulation Act..GAAR but what the govt called Reform and gave us was.. Walmart.

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  • Anonymous

    Girl to a shopkeeper : Bhaiya aap ke ke paas aisa Valentine card hai jisme likha ‘ You are my first love and would be my last love ”
    Shopkeeper : Haan hai

    Girl : Theek hai 20 de do.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Good One.

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  • Anonymous

    Letter written to PM by former member of SEBI Dr. K M Abraham on how he was

    being pressured to not act against Sahara, Reliance and Bank of Rajasthan.
    This letter came into light by a RTI application.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/70646038/K-M-Abraham-s-Letter-to-PM

    [Reply]

    devduttkumar Reply:

    The whole thing is based on his interaction with SEBI Chairman. Infact, the SEBI Chairman must come forward to give the details and specifics.

    If he was pressured by the chairman, he must say that straight. He THINKS the chairman was pressured. Infact, he must rather accuse the chairman pressurising him which can help make the SEBI chairman a party and the onus would be on the chairman to give the facts.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He had written the letter to PM citing his apprehensions. He had claimed in the letter that the chairman was being pressured by the office of former FM, our current President. Don’t know what action
    did PM took after receiving this letter.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    The tone and tenor of the letter is more of “hearsay” rather than firm accusation, more like coffee / cocktail talk.

    If he thinks he is being truly pressurised then he must implicate the Chairman SEBI directly. Who knows the Chairman SEBI is getting the work done through these “what-can-I-do” kind of talk ? Only when he implicates directly, some action could be initiated.

    Mark his words :”There is not a single person to talk to in the Ministry. There are 3 people to be convinced…” These are loose talks. One has to go through officials at different level.

    Nobody would take him seriously if he talks like that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I don’t know how things like this work. I came across this interesting letter and thought of sharing with fellow bloggers.

    I would still be interested to know whether PM took any action or he did nothing as Praveen just posted. I believe that Mr. Abraham is no more the member of SEBI. It would also be very interesting to know whether he was removed because of this letter or his term was over ?

    devduttkumar Reply:

    These kind of letters are not taken very seriously. They just get stamped and sent to the concerned Ministry.

    There has to be enough substance to make a prima facie case and get the attention of the PM of this country.

    How about you writing a letter to Mr Abraham for some solid proof to substantiate his letter ?

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    What you wrote is so obvious about this PM and his Office. A letter from SEBI Member, an IAS Officer gets stamped and sent to the concerned Ministry .. i.e the Finance Ministry. We recall that Letters from MPs.. media reports .. also were never responded to as has been seen in 2G ,, CWG, Coalgate, and now Helicopter deals. This PM never served the country.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    This things happen in your PACKAGED CM’s office too.

    Write a letter to your PACKAGED CM and see.

    Then file an RTI at your PACKAGED CM’s office too. Don’t forget that !

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    The PM robbed us of our smiles … we are left only with his scams.

    Anonymous Reply:

    devdutt – does one wrong make everything else wrong.. also, shouldnt we be concerned about these .. we are not the only one doing these, they also do…or they are doing it, so we also should do….that should not be our yardstick

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Reflect the same, in reverse order. Then compare who is better.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Mohan.. you do not know what action the PM took…. The PM did not know what action to take.

    Anonymous Reply:

    :) :)

  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Is the Hon’ble Union Minister Mr Vayalar Ravi ..liable for action under criminal laws of the Country ?
    This is what he said to a lady TV Reporter ” When the reporter asked Ravi for his comments, Ravi is seen saying, “Do you have anything personal against Kurien? I am sure you do. Has something happened between you and him in the past? ”

    Section 354 of the Criminal Laws Amendment Ordinance 2013 , says

    ” 354A. (1)
    The following acts or behaviour shall constitute the offence of sexual harassment––
    (i) physical contact and advances involving unwelcome and explicit sexual
    overtures; or
    (ii) a demand or request for sexual favours; or
    (iii) making sexually coloured remarks; or
    (iv) forcibly showing pornography; or
    (v) any other unwelcome physical, verbal or non-verbal conduct of sexual nature.
    (2) Any person who commits the offence specified
    in clause (i) or clause (ii) of sub-section (1) shall be punished with rigorous imprisonment which may extend to five years, or with fine, or with both.

    Is the distinction of being the first accused under newly passed law go to a serving Union Minister ? He comes from a Party run by a lady.

    Will some action be taken … No .. the laws are for ordinary mortals . as is evident from the following

    ” Minister of State for Information and Broadcasting Manish Tewari reacted to the furore over Ravi’s remarks saying, “The minister has retracted his remarks and this is anyway not expected out of anyone, let’s leave it at that.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    praveen- The whole Congress, especially the Congress from kerala, is shamelessly supporting Kurien. One would have thought that in the heat and light of Delhi rape, Congress will set an example, and ask its ministers and office bearers to resign (and take them back if they come out clean)

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  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————-

    ~~~ ALARMING !! CHIEF of IAF can be bribed with a screw and 80 lakhs~~~

    ————————————————————————————————–

    Who actually took the 450 crores of bribes in the helicopter case will probably never come out. But sadly our IAF chief got ONLY 80 lakh bucks and 6 screws.

    The other side is that he sold himself so cheap….

    We have already seen Madhuri Gupta, India’s desk officer in Pakistan selling the country for a ****…

    I have been told that some journalists from India who went to Pakistan too were corrupted and got sold out for a screw …

    But the IAF chief comes out as the wierdest banana… Chori bhi kari aur maal bhi nahi mila…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju
    And he has the name “tyagi” what an irony!

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    vijay ! Reply:

    For this Tyagi it meant sacrificing the country for his own good.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Anthony is a clean man, a true Gandhian. I wonder whether the holy mother asked him to look the other way– (there were always rumours and writings in Kerala newspapers that he was made Defence Minister so the big thieves can steal behind the clean man Anthony as the front

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well he is clean. Possibly they were people who used him as a front.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Bring whole Army, Air force and Navy and their chiefs under Lokpal.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well there has to be a solution. Dont know in case say a Mulayam/ Lalu/ become the PM and appoint a Lokpal who is caste biased and they themselves being so corrupt…

    Can the forces work freely under civilian and bureaucratic controls?

    When the forces were being hampered by slow decison making of defence Ministry, the NDA Minister George Fernandes sent the Defence Secretary to Siachin.

    So we need equipment fast.

    how does it work in other countries?

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    You want to go Ashish Nandy way ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Forensically speaking Ashish nandy was that great leftist liberal for whom a good talk over drinks and long discussions matter more than clearing corruption. He was trying to say that Modi is corruption free and so is a dictator.

    So it is better to have corruption in all strata of society as all would be equal then.

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Pathak

    All the girls who get laid for getting the contract can also henceforth report to the Lokpal

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  • Amar

    Chopper scam: ‘Vajpayee PMO tweaked deal in 2003′

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Chopper-scam-Vajpayee-PMO-tweaked-deal-in-2003/Article1-1011273.aspx

    Former air chief SP Tyagi, whose name surfaced as a bribe-taker in the Rs. 3,760-crore
    VVIP chopper deal, claimed on Wednesday that tender parameters were
    changed by the NDA regime at the behest of Atal Bihari Vajpayee’s PMO in
    2003 — before he took over as the air chief — to favour Finmeccanica of Italy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Remember two undisputed facts and things would fall in place:

    1. Gujarat was a developed state even before Modi came – so he can’t claim any credit for it.
    2. All the scams 2G, CWG, chopper and few yet to be unearthed originated during NDA rule – so they can’t escape its responsibility

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  • Anonymous

    Yah Tyagi sub se bada bhogi nikla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    well, Diggie will say this is a MModi and Saffron terrorist propaganda

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  • engrich

    रैबिट पंच

    भारत एक कायर मुल्क है
    विवेक आसरी

    Thursday February 14, 2013

    11

    नीरेंद्र नागर पूछ रहे हैं कि अफजल गुरु और भगत सिंह एक जैसे हैं या नहीं (यहां पढ़ें: क्या अफजल गुरु कश्मीर का भगत सिंह है?)।
    और कोई माने न माने कम से कम भारत सरकार ऐसा मानती है। तभी तो उसे ठीक
    वैसे ही फांसी दी गई जैसे भगत सिंह को दी गई थी। मुंह छिपाकर। परिवार को
    बिना बताए। कायराना तरीके से। अगर कश्मीर भारत का हिस्सा है तो अफजल गुरु
    भारत का नागरिक था। उसे वह हर हक हासिल था जो किसी भी भारतीय नागरिक को
    हासिल है। फांसी दिए जाने से पहले उसे उसके परिवार से मिलने का हक था। अपने
    बच्चे से मिलने का हक था। अव्वल तो उसके परिवार को दोबारा कोर्ट जाने का
    हक था। लेकिन डरपोक भारत सरकार ने ऐसा कुछ नहीं होने दिया। क्या इससे यह
    साबित नहीं होता कि भारत सरकार कश्मीर को अपना हिस्सा नहीं अपना गुलाम
    मानती है?

    जब राजीव गांधी के हत्यारों की फांसी पर माफी की अर्जी खारिज हुई थी तो
    उन्हें एक महीने का वक्त दिया गया। और दोबारा कोर्ट जाने पर उनकी फांसी टल
    गई। गुरु के मामले में ऐसा क्यों नहीं हो सकता था? बेअंत सिंह के हत्यारे
    को फांसी नहीं दी जा सकी क्योंकि राज्य सरकार उसके पक्ष में खड़ी हो गई।
    राजीव गांधी के हत्यारों को फांसी नहीं दी जा सकी क्योंकि राज्य सरकार उनके
    पक्ष में खड़ी हो गई। लेकिन जम्मू कश्मीर के मुख्यमंत्री फांसी के विरोध
    में बोलते हैं तो हमारे देशभक्त उन्हें देशद्रोही कहने लगते हैं। बताइये कि
    पंजाब और तमिलनाडु सरकार की कार्रवाई देशद्रोह है या नहीं?

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  • Amar

    Choppergate decisions made in Tyagi’s time, UPA’s tenure

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Choppergate-decisions-made-in-Tyagi-s-time-UPA-s-tenure/Article1-1011914.aspx

    A day after Tyagi claimed that purchase conditions of 12 AgustaWestland VVIP helicopters were

    modified long before he became the air chief, the defence
    ministry in a press statement on Thursday said the changes in the Rs. 3,760-crore
    tender were made when Tyagi was in the hot seat in 2005-06. Pranab
    Mukherjee was then the defence minister in the UPA government.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Amar,

    only yesterday, you said specs were “tweaked” during Vajapayee’s time.

    Did Tyagi say anything at all about the girls? or Rs.75lac cash ‘gift’?

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  • gopi_thomas

    Despite
    gaping holes in the case against Afzal Guru, all India’s institutions
    played a part in putting a Kashmiri ‘terrorist’ to death

    By Arundhati Roy

    Spring announced itself in Delhi on Saturday. The sun was out, and
    the law took its course. Just before breakfast, the government of India
    secretly hanged Afzal Guru, prime accused in the attack on parliament in
    December 2001, and interred his body in Delhi’s Tihar jail where he had
    been in solitary confinement for 12 years. Guru’s wife and son were not
    informed. “The authorities intimated the family through speed post and
    registered post,” the home secretary told the press, “the director
    general of the Jammu and Kashmir [J&K] police has been told to check
    whether they got it or not”. No big deal, they’re only the family of
    yet another Kashmiri terrorist.

    In a moment of rare unity the Indian nation, or at least its major
    political parties – Congress, the Bharatiya Janata party and the
    Communist party of India (Marxist) – came together as one (barring a few
    squabbles about “delay” and “timing”) to celebrate the triumph of the
    rule of law. Live broadcasts from TV studios, with their usual cocktail
    of papal passion and a delicate grip on facts, crowed about the “victory
    of democracy”. Rightwing Hindu nationalists distributed sweets to
    celebrate the hanging, and beat up Kashmiris (paying special attention
    to the girls) who had gathered in Delhi to protest. Even though Guru was
    dead and gone, the commentators in the studios and the thugs on the
    streets seemed, like cowards who hunt in packs, to need each other to
    keep their courage up. Perhaps because, deep inside, themselves they
    knew they had colluded in doing something terribly wrong.

    What are the facts? On 13 December 2001 five armed men drove through the gates of the Indian parliament in
    a car fitted out with a bomb. When challenged they jumped out of the
    car and opened fire, killing eight security personnel and a gardener. In
    the firefight that followed, all five attackers were killed. In one of
    the many versions of the confessions he was forced to make in police
    custody, Guru identified the men as Mohammed, Rana, Raja, Hamza and
    Haider. That’s all we know about them. They don’t even have second
    names. LK Advani, then home minister in the BJP government, said they
    “looked like Pakistanis”. (He should know what Pakistanis look like
    right? Being a Sindhi himself.) Based only on Guru’s custodial
    confession (which the supreme court subsequently set aside, citing
    “lapses” and “violations of procedural safeguards”) the government
    recalled its ambassador from Pakistan and mobilised half a million
    soldiers on the Pakistan border. There was talk of nuclear war. Foreign
    embassies issued travel advisories and evacuated their staff from Delhi.
    The standoff lasted months and cost India thousands of crores –
    millions of pounds.

    Within 24 hours, the Delhi Police Special Cell (notorious for its
    fake “encounter” killings, where suspected terrorists are targeted in
    extrajudicial attacks) claimed it had cracked the case. On 15 December
    it arrested the “mastermind”, Professor SAR Geelani, in Delhi, and
    Showkat Guru and his cousin Afzal Guru in Srinagar, Kashmir.
    Subsequently, they arrested Afsan Guru, Showkat’s wife. The Indian media
    enthusiastically disseminated the police version. These were some of
    the headlines: “Delhi university lecturer was terror plan hub”, “Varsity
    don guided fidayeen”, “Don lectured on terror in free time.” Zee TV, a
    national network, broadcast a “docudrama” called December 13,
    a recreation that claimed to be the “truth based on the police charge
    sheet”. (If the police version is the truth, why have courts?) The then
    prime minister, Atal Bihari Vajpayee, and Advani publicly applauded the
    film. The supreme court refused to postpone the screening, saying that
    the media would not influence judges. It was broadcast only a few days
    before the fast-track court sentenced Geelani and Afzal and Showkat Guru
    to death. Subsequently the high court acquitted Geelani and Afsan Guru.
    The supreme court upheld the acquittal. But in its 5 August 2005
    judgment it gave Afzal Guru three life sentences and a double death
    sentence.

    The BJP called for an immediate execution. One of its election slogans was “Desh abhi sharminda hai, Afzal abhibhi zinda hai“,
    which means (in stirring rhyme), “Our nation is ashamed because Afzal
    is still alive”. In order to blunt the murmurs that had begun to
    surface, a fresh media campaign began. Chandan Mitra, now a BJP MP, then
    editor of the Pioneer newspaper, wrote: “Afzal Guru was one of the
    terrorists who stormed parliament house on 13 December 2001. He was the
    first to open fire on security personnel, apparently killing three of
    the six who died.” Even the police charge sheet did not accuse Afzal of
    that. The supreme court judgment acknowledged the evidence was
    circumstantial: “As is the case with most conspiracies, there is and
    could be no evidence amounting to criminal conspiracy.” But then,
    shockingly, it went on to say: “The incident, which resulted in heavy
    casualties, had shaken the entire nation, and the collective conscience
    of society will only be satisfied if capital punishment is awarded to
    the offender.”

    Who crafted our collective conscience on the parliament attack case?
    Could it have been the facts we gleaned in the papers? The films we saw
    on TV? Before celebrating the rule of law, let’s take a look at what
    happened.

    The people who are celebrating the victory of the rule of law argue
    that the very fact that the Indian courts acquitted Geelani and
    convicted Afzal proves that the trial was free and fair. Was it?

    The trial in the fast-track court began in May 2002. The world was
    still convulsed by post 9/11 frenzy. The US government was gloating
    prematurely over its “victory” in Afghanistan. In the state of Gujarat, the massacre of Muslims by
    Hindu goon squads, helped along by the police and the state government
    machinery that had begun in late February, was still going on
    sporadically. The air was charged with communal hatred. And in the
    parliament attack case the law was taking its own course. At the most
    crucial stage of a criminal case, when evidence is presented, when
    witnesses are cross-examined, when the foundations of the argument are
    laid – in the high court and supreme court you can only argue points of
    law, you cannot introduce new evidence – Afzal Guru, locked in a
    high-security solitary cell, had no lawyer. The court-appointed junior
    lawyer did not visit his client even once in jail, he did not summon any
    witnesses in Guru’s defence, and he did not cross-examine the
    prosecution witnesses. The judge expressed his inability to do anything
    about the situation.

    Even so, from the word go the case fell apart. A few examples out of
    many: The two most incriminating pieces of evidence against Guru were a
    cellphone and a laptop confiscated at the time of arrest. They were not
    sealed, as evidence is required to be. During the trial it emerged that
    the hard disk of the laptop had been accessed after the arrest. It only
    contained the fake home ministry passes and the fake identity cards that
    the “terrorists” used to access parliament – and a Zee TV video clip of
    parliament house. So according to the police, Guru had deleted all the
    information except the most incriminating bits. The police witness said
    he sold the crucial sim card that connected all the accused in the case
    to one another to Guru on 4 December 2001. But the prosecution’s own
    call records showed the sim was actually operational from 6 November
    2001.

    How did the police get to Afzal? They said that Geelani led them to
    him. But the court records show that the message to arrest Afzal went
    out before they picked up Geelani. The high court called this a
    “material contradiction” but left it at that.

    The arrest memos were signed by Bismillah, Geelani’s brother, in
    Delhi. The seizure memos were signed by two men from the J&K police,
    one of them an old tormentor from Afzal’s past as a surrendered
    “militant”.

    It goes on and on, this pile up of lies and fabricated evidence. The
    courts note them, but for their pains the police get no more than a
    gentle rap on their knuckles. Nothing more.

    Anyone who was really interested in solving the mystery of the
    parliament attack would have followed the dense trail of evidence on
    offer. No one did, thereby ensuring the real authors of the conspiracy
    will remain unidentified and uninvestigated.

    The real story and the tragedy of what
    happened to Guru is too immense to be contained in a courtroom. The real
    story would lead us to the Kashmir valley, that potential nuclear
    flashpoint, and the most densely militarised zone in the world, where
    half a million Indian soldiers (one to every four civilians) and a maze
    of army camps and torture chambers that would put Abu Ghraib in the
    shade are bringing secularism and democracy to the Kashmiri people.
    Since 1990, when the struggle for self-determination became militant,
    68,000 people have died, 10,000 have disappeared, and at least 100,000
    have been tortured.

    What sets Guru’s killing apart is that, unlike those tens of
    thousands who died in prison cells, his life and death were played out
    in the blinding light of day in which all the institutions of Indian
    democracy played their part in putting him to death.

    Now he has been hanged, I hope our collective conscience has been satisfied. Or is our cup of blood still only half full?

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    …Chandan Mitra, now a BJP MP, then
    editor of the Pioneer newspaper, wrote: “Afzal Guru was one of the
    terrorists who stormed parliament house on 13 December 2001. He was the
    first to open fire on security personnel, apparently killing three of
    the six who died.”,,,,,,,

    ===
    Did Chandan Mitra write this ?

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    engrich Reply:

    chandan mitra is rascist communal hindu,who want india to be converted into apartheid state.he is brhmnst.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    To rely on Arundhati Roy to debunk the Supreme Court ? You are welcome to do so.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Give us some fact.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    The only documents I can rely upon are full texts of
    the Trial Court Order, the Appellate Court Order, the SC Order, the Review Order.
    Articles and media reports are something I would throw out of the window. to debunk the SC judgments.

    Anonymous Reply:

    1. The court doesn’t decide cases based on what Mr. Chandan Mitra writes (or is alleged to have written by Arundhati Roy)

    2. It is not the fault of the judiciary if he couldn’t afford/find a lawyer for himself. There are many people in India who are behind the bars for the same reason – no big deal. Those who trained him in PoK could have come forward to arrange one for him.

    3. Police have means to dig out information and get hold of the perpetrators of crime in their own way. All this may not (and should not) be as per the letters of the law. How/from where he was arrested doesn’t mitigate his crime in the case.

    “As is the case with most conspiracies, there is and could be no direct evidence amounting to criminal conspiracy.” As soon as you understand and appreciate this logic, you won’t need to worry about the judgement again.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    A copy paste from Dainik Jagran a leading Hindi newspaper…
    अमेरिकी संसद में भी नमो-नमो की गूंज
    वाशिंगटन, प्रेट्र : गुजरात के मुख्यमंत्री नरेंद्र मोदी (नमो) के विरोधी उनके बारे में चाहे जो राय रखते हों, लेकिन हकीकत में ब्रिटेन से लेकर अमेरिका तक उनकी स्वीकार्यता लगातार बढ़ रही है। अमेरिकी संसद में बुधवार को ऐसा ही नजारा उस समय देखने को मिला जब एक सांसद एफ एन फालेओमावेगा ने मोदी को असाधारण नेता बताते हुए अपनी सरकार से उन्हें खुला और पूर्ण समर्थन देने की सलाह दे डाली। फालेओमावेगा का यह बयान गुजरात दंगों पर मौन साधे रहने वाले मोदी द्वारा 2002 के दंगों को दुर्भाग्यपूर्ण बताने के कुछ दिन बाद आया है। मोदी के इसी बयान के बाद यूरोपीय संघ के मुल्कों ने मोदी को लेकर अपना एक दशक पुराना बहिष्कार व्रत तोड़ने का फैसला कर लिया। यही नहीं पश्चिमी देश अब मोदी के साथ साझेदारी बढ़ाने को भी उत्सुक दिखाई दे रहे हैं। अमेरिकी सांसद फालेओमावेगा ने हाउस ऑफ रिप्रजेंटेटिव्स में कहा कि मोदी के असाधारण नेतृत्व से उनका राज्य गुजरात अब भारत की आर्थिक रीढ़ बन चुका है। लिहाजा, अमेरिकी शेष कृष्ठ 2 कालम 2 कर
    The US Senator called NAMO an extra-ordinary leader… Ishwar it is going to be
    Chali Hawa NAMO NAMO…
    Jaldi Aao NAMO NAMO
    Desh bachao NAMO NAMO

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  • devduttkumar

    Is USA playing dirty in India ?

    ————————————-

    Sometime back we saw unrest at Russian built nuclear reactor in TN. It was allegedly fuelled by US through few NGO’s.

    The recent report says, the Italian middleman for Chopper deal, taunted the American chopper company team in a restaurant openly, saying (“you don’t win always”). We all know bribing in Italy is not a big issue and definitely when it comes to getting foreign contract. My assertion 2 days back, proved true when the PM,Italy spoke about the issue.

    Could it be that the Americans pulled down the CEO of Finmeccanica because of that public taunt in the restaurant ?

    [ I am not discounting the Tyagi issue. ]

    Now the French have won the Rafale contract. Will we see an issue coming up when the time comes for delivery ?

    The Americans are upset with India for sure. From the days, they signed the civil nuclear agreement with India, they expected all contracts from India. But they got very little so far.

    Are we ready for all top power playing out their spy game here in India ?

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    If the political leadership is honest and transparent.. none can do anything. There was no American involvement in 2G , CWG, Coal Gate ., . In the present case it is Italian Govt which has arrested its nationals . Is the present Italian Govt under American influence…There is a specific allegation of bribery paid to Indians. .. The former Italian PM only said bribery is a world wide phenomenon.. .Please do not try any new spin it won’t work.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    The world is not as simplistic.

    Playing football is not just about kicking a ball, though you can do that in your backyard.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Are u telling me ..I have seen no less summers than you.

  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    ” The UPA government’s factsheet on the AgustaWestland helicopter deal can bring
    embarrassment for the Congress as it categorically states that the tender was
    finalised in 2005 – a time when President Pranab was the defence minister, Air
    Chief Marshal SP Tyagi was India Air Force Chief, Wanchoo headed the SPG while
    Narayanan was the National Security Advisor ”
    Three enjoy Constitutional Immunity. Will they step down to facilitate a fair investigation? or prefer to stick on even if under an alleged taint ?

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    The “relationship” between Tyagi brothers and Italian agent started in 2001. The changes were done in 2003.

    So it’s still tricky, depending on who plays it how.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Kindly refer to the Ministry Of Defence’s Fact sheet which they released yesterday. Thankfully Anthony is the Raksha Mantri on whose honesty , can be relied upon .still. But question remains why he did not take action on Prakash Jawadekar’s letter and various media reports.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Till a few days back, it was known that commissions were paid to some italian agent. The Tyagi angle came out just now. I guess this is a shock to everybody.

    Tough my feeling is Juli Tyagi played it smart. He encashed on the reflected glory showing his closeness and relationship with S P Tyagi. The casual meeting at his place or in Aero show, was to prove his closeness with SP Tyagi to these Italian Agents.

    But the disturbing fact is that SP Tyagi was supposed to have discussed about the status of Chopper deal with them. That was really surprising. [ Many of my own friends do not talk about their office business dealings even though they are in Private Sector].

    Asking for CBI enquiry itself is a double-edged sword. Even if there is nothing, but since there is a CBI enquiry, it’s supposed to be a scam and must be put on hold and the parliament must be disturbed. Even though, Prakash wrote, the BJP didn’t push it because they new the thread started during their time.

    The Govt. has not come out strongly against SP Tyagi yet for the lack of proof, which, in my opinion, is the right approach.

    vijay ! Reply:

    The italians touched his feet and supplied him girls… and made a fool of him by giving him only 80 lakhs of the 450 crore commission…..

    ——————————————————————–From NDTV

    VVIP chopper scam: middleman touched former Air Force Chief SP Tyagi’s feet, says Italian report

    ———————————————-

    Furtheron this would be basically a truth coming out becasue commission in Italy wold not have been distributed “properly” among bureaucrats. So the guy who did not get it woudl have ratted on his accomplice.

    It happens all the time in the Indian public sector.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    When you read, do it carefully.

    Juli touched SP Tyagi’s feet. Or, you are trying to do what you are good at !

    vijay ! Reply:

    I am only a god of Truth.

    FROM NDTV——–

    Former Air Force chief SP Tyagi has denied the allegations against him and has said that he met one of the alleged AgustaWestland middlemen just once. But the Italian report says middleman Ralph Haschke has “confessed” that he met six or seven times with the air force chief who supplied updates on the progress in the tender. “Haschke once greeted Air Chief Marshal Tyagi by touching his feet as a sign of respect,” the Italian prosecutors claim. (Read: Met ex-air force chief a few times: middleman)

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Saxena sahab;
    what the F… You are equating Bangaru Luxman and Pranab, other luminaries??

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  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————-

    ~~~ THE TRUTH ABOUT AFZAL ~~~ which should not be told~~~

    —————————————————————————————————

    Here is the correct version

    a) Afzal was a police informer and also a militant. He went both ways.

    b) He was involved in the Parliament attack and helped in coordination

    c) The police immediately zeroed on him and promised him to make him free by making him an approver.

    d) He sang before the press and TV cameras, under the impression he was going to be left of in the end.

    e) NOt even Kamini Jaiswal and Colin Gonsalves– both of whom who had represented Afzal– said he was innocent.

    Gautam navlakha who approves of Kashmir seceeding from India says that AFZAL IS A FLUNKIE IN THE WHOLE PLOT, THE SMALL GUY. But he dare not deny Afzal’s inovlement.

    In the end some may say that since Afzal only handled the arms, helped in transporting terrorists,he should have been given only a life sentence.

    Well it is for all of us to take the stance on the effect on India in case the terrorists had managed to take the INdian PM hostage and the entire cabinet, including the COngressis.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Read this : ( Page 89)

    http://books.google.co.in/books?id=aT-u5P6ogJIC&pg=PA86&dq=Chandan+Mitra,+in+The+Pioneer,+October+7th+2006&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LNEdUeXMDYfkrAfB7oCABw&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Chandan%20Mitra%2C%20in%20The%20Pioneer%2C%20October%207th%202006&f=false

    ===

    This is about Dravinder Singh, STF who tortured Afzal Guru. Read carefully what he said about Afzal after he tortured Afzal in his camp for many days ( after pouring petrol in his ***).

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Let me ask you a reverse question.

    In case Afzal was so innocent, then what reason do

    a)Pranab Mukherji

    b) Sonia Gandhi

    c) Rahul Gandhi

    d) Law Mininster and the entire cabinet

    Have to hang him?

    Are BJP and Congress hand in glove in the end? So secretly Sonia and Advani laugh together. Is that what you are trying to say?

    Or do you think Arundhati Roy the woman with a twinkle in the eye is so impressive looking that for her love, you are willing to beleive her lies…

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    First, you use your resources and tell us ( atleast the bloggers here ) if there were enough reasons to doubt about this case or not.

    Then I will answer your questions ( though I have done that before in a way ).

    vijay ! Reply:

    WHy did Pranab, Rahul,Sonia– your GODS– have not doubts?

    Oh I understand… they were mislead by Advani…

    Let me add… I know of one officer, whom I have not met lately but when I had met him, he was very sure they had done a good job.

    However as putting evidence before courts— IN ALL CASES– is difficult, they had made some slipshod claims in their confidence that they had got the culprit anyway.

    By the way, one or two people who had a peripheral involvement in the case have got away.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    You have had enough of evidence of rhetoric statements and counter arguments on this blog. So don’t doubt my ability.

    I am looking for serious answer to this issue.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well ask Kaminin Jaiswal then, who interacted with Guru and would have been satisfied with a life imprisonment.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Kamini Jaiswal, Ram Jethmalani & Nandita Haksar say why they helped only Prof Geelani, to VRINDA GOPINATH

    Even
    as a stunned media has guilt-tripped to non-stop coverage of the Afzal
    Guru hanging (how come these searing questions about the state and
    courts’ fallibility were never asked so passionately before the
    hanging?) one of the most glaring question that stares you in the face
    is that: Was Azal Guru a victim for being a lowly non-person?

    After all, a battery of lawyers had represented another accused, Syed
    Abdul Rahman Geelani, a lecturer at Delhi University, and overturned
    his death sentence to an acquittal. I spoke to three lawyers who
    represented Geelani, namely Kamini Jaiswal, Ram Jethmalani and Nandita
    Haksar, though later, both Jaiswal and Haksar were also involved in the
    Free Guru campaign in their own way.

    The irrepressible Ram Jethmalani is candid when he says that
    the only reason he represented Geelani was because he was “commanded by
    the court” to do so. Says the combative 86-year-old Supreme
    Court advocate, “I was approached by the High Court when Geelani
    requested that I represent him. When the court conveyed the request to
    me, it is a tradition between the court and lawyer, that such a request
    is seen as a command. It is free legal assistance, we do not charge in
    such circumstances. ” Jethmalani, however, says he was also approached
    by Afzal but it hit a dead end, as he explains later.

    Kamini Jaiswal minces no words when she says that Geelani was indeed
    fortunate to have his fraternity in Delhi University move heaven and
    earth to prove his innocence. Says a blunt Jaiswal, “Geelani’s
    family was here in Delhi, the Delhi Teachers’ Union supported him
    wholeheartedly. Afzal Guru was a disillusioned militant, he was poor,
    had no family or influential colleagues in Delhi. The mood at
    that time was also very vitiated, and any lawyer who expressed a desire
    to defend the accused in the Parlaiment case was seen as anti-national.
    Remember, even Jethmalani’s office was attacked by Shiv Sena goons when
    he decided to take up Geelani’s case.”

    It is a similar sentiment expressed by Nandita Haksar, a reputed
    lawyer, who was approached by the Delhi Teachers’ Union to defend
    Geelani as they were convinced he was framed in the case. Says
    Haksar, “The mood at that time was sinister, how many lawyers were ready
    to take up the defence of the accused? Afzal named four lawyers, none
    came forward. The BJP was in power, anybody who expressed a desire was
    seen as unpatriotic. Yes, Afzal was poor, he had no father, no rich
    relatives. He could not afford lawyers, whereas Geelani was
    middle-class, a teacher, he had many friends. Also, Geelani never made a
    public confession, unlike Afzal, whose confession was held up as an
    indictment of his hand in the crime.”

    However, both Jaiswal and Haksar were actively involved in the campaign
    for Justice for Afzal Guru when the Supreme Court upheld the death
    sentence for Guru in 2006, though all four other accused were either
    acquitted or were awarded lesser sentences.

    In December 2006, noted Supreme Court advocate, Indira Jaising, filed
    a curative petition, through Afzal’s counsel by that time, Kamini
    Jaiswal, to point out that his trial was “grossly unfair as he did not
    get a legal counsel of his choice to defend him in court.” Jaising
    believes that because of this travesty, he was unfairly condemned. As
    she had explained then, “We are against the death penalty… but at least
    the process by which the penalty is imposed needs to be fair. The
    seminal requirement of this fairness is that the person facing a death
    penalty be represented by a lawyer. How would we like it if we entered a
    court room, when arraigned as an accused, without a lawyer?”

    For instance, as Jaising showed in her petition, the lawyers
    appointed by the Sessions Court not only pleaded to be removed from the
    case, the junior lawyer who finally represented Afzal, was actually
    denying facts that Afzal had admitted to, thus weakening his case.
    Then, his lawyers did not even cross-examine crucial witnesses, 56 out
    of the 80 witnesses produced were examined most inadequately. Court
    records with regard to the cross-examination of the most important
    witnesses including the Investigating Officer, Inspector HS Gill, on
    whose testimony Afzal was given a death sentence, was cross-examined
    cursorily.

    A month later, the Supreme Court dismissed the petition, and Afzal Guru was left to the mercy of the state and President.

    ==

    http://www.altgaze.com/?p=800

    vijay ! Reply:

    Does Kamini say he was innocent or had nothing to do with the crime?

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Vijay give up . Probably he is right… Congress has done gross injustice. They have no love for Minorities especially Muslims.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Yes the Congress hanged an innocent poor guy. DOnt love poor. Dont love minorities. Dont love justice.

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Praveen

    It will be a great show! COngress first claiming credit for hanging Afzal and then realising that people were criticising it… making a bigger mistake by trying to do a batla house with Afzal and getting BJP into it.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Not enough for a death sentence.

    vijay ! Reply:

    yes that is the debate. He was guilty. Attack on Parliament is a big crime.

    You can debate that he could have 20 yrs instead. Your own Gopal subramnium says in HT
    —-
    In Subramanium’s view all the courts found that Guru was an important link in the entire case. “It was clearly established that he was an essential conspirator, without whose covert act, the offence could not have been committed,”

    —————————

    Arundhati Roy the true rumor monger says that the attack on Parliament could have well been engineered by teh NDA as it was facing a corruption scam. Godhra sort of logic.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    A good lawyer could have saved him. But no good lawyer was ready to fight for being called as a “traitor” because of the environment created by the BJP.

    And he was poor.

    vijay ! Reply:

    So Basically the congress has sensed it has lost the Muslims vote… and now wants to blame the BJP!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    And he was poor because of the environment created by Congress.

  • vijay !

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    ~~~ VIJAY REACHES WHERE CBI GOES TWO DAYS LATER !! ~~~~

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    Yesterday I had talked about the software export route of getting kickbacks to India. That is by exporting junk software and then getting kickabck money as payment.

    Well the Chopper deal may have this component.

    From NDTV————————-

    eromatrix was formed in Chandigarh in 2009, just as the contract for the helicopters was in its final stage of negotiations. The deal would be signed in 2010 with AgustaWestland (AW), whose parent company is Finmeccanica.

    On the board of Aeromatrix were a lawyer named Gautam Khaitan, and Carlo Gerosa and Guido Ralph Haschke, both identified by Italian investigators as middlemen for AW. After Aeromatrix was formed, it allegedly bought the AgustaWestland contract from another Chandigarh company, IDS Infotech. It was a contract to handle software requirements for AW. This business officially generates about 8 crores annually for Aeromatrix, which has about 60 employees and offices in countries that include the Netherlands.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Where have they mentioned earning 8 crores by writing junk software ?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Slowly the mystery will unfold. In case the CBI wants it to.

    Part of the payments– major part– would be for junk software. or even perfect software which is heavily overbilled.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Software and consulting overbilling is difficult to prove.

    vijay ! Reply:

    That is why this route is taken becasue software billing can never be challenged.

    A friend of mine in software was approached by the Touts of A

    VERY VERY POWERFUL (currently) personality in India. Money from Russia was to be got back.

    He was asked to bill ten times his regular amount anf return the money as cash. And also to give 70% share of his company to a new director. Further on the company in Russia which had purchased the software which was again overbilled.

    Not everyone can take the Mauritious FII route.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Nobody will pay bribe in Tunisia through software route. Whatever is popular in a particular country, people pay through that to avoid visibility.

    BTW all serious manufacturers trying to get a contract from Indian Govt. have their software development center here.

    vijay ! Reply:

    I can tell ou the name of the powerfull person who wanted money back from Russia thru software route.

    Your hair will stand. I maye get chopped!

    but 1005 truth

    devduttkumar Reply:

    I thought you were scared of law suits !

    vijay ! Reply:

    yes i am scared…!

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well that is part of the game !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    Software exports have been used as a cover up for kickbacks return for some time now.

    In 1996, a package called Munimji used to cost 2000 rupees. Onedummy company by a high ranking bureaucrats son showed that it had exported 2000 copies of a PIRATED version of the software to a HongkOng firm and got back 500,000 USD as [payments.

    A fellow CA who was auditing the accounts told me that the company folded up after the job had been done. They even took export benefiets.

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  • Anonymous

    Devdutt
    You are right about NGO/foreign money behind Kundakulam TN nuclear energy project. However, even if the money is from US, it may not be an US CIA initiative. My understanding is that the US budget allocates money for malaria eradication, peace promotion, democracy establishment etc; these are not big money, but enough for scoundrels like the Kashmiri “peace” guy Fiaz. NGOs in India who know how to apply, maneuver etc through the process will easily get 5 milllion dollars or 1 million dollars etc which are big numbers for India, Africa etc. I do notthink there is any government (US) oversight as to how the money is spent.,

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    How did US pay Pakistan in dollars (cash) during Afgan war?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I believe war related funds and payments /aid to countries are sepaartely appropriated and have to obtain the parliament approval

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Gopi

    In normal course he heavily corrupt Italians would have no problem with the 450 crore commission. After all their own company was getting an order.

    Seems that the loot was not fairly shared.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    viju
    Corruption aside, I just do not understand why amn italian company will be awarded contracts for choppers – these are not womens shoes, or perfumes that the country is supposed to be good at. If we are buying foreign stuff, we should buy from the first or second or third country/company in the field. Precsiion machinery from Germany, military technology from US/UK/France etc

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Same company was bidding for USA President’s chopper and was technically qualified. Tata has gone for a JV with them.

    -
    This chopper too was a luxury. It was designed for VVIP.

  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Is the trail leading up to the promoter family of the Congress Part?

    quoted from Rediff.com

    ” According to Italian newspaper Lettera 43, another agent, Guido Ralph Haschke was on the directors’ board of Emaar-MGF, a real estate company owned by relatives of Kanishka Singh who is reportedly associated with members of the Congress party.

    Haschke, a Switzerland-based defence middleman who holds dual passports of Italy and the United States, is said to be in Dubai. He was on Emaar-MGF’s directors’ board when the company bagged the Commonwealth Games deal. He had to resign in 2009 after the scam came out.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Jaswant Singh’s first cousin is a known smuggler.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Jaswant Singh who ?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Ha! As the finger of suspician gets closer… get in BJP

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  • Anonymous

    Markandeya Katju is going insane (too much Congress interaction will do it)
    He writes in an op ed in Hindu:

    “India is a land of immigrants”
    “Indians will be making the same mistake as Germans did in 1933 (in electing Nazis) if they elect Modi”

    .The mythological Markandeya was an all knowing, esteemly learned Guru.
    The banana country has made big progress from that Markandeya to this Markandeya!.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Gopi… Markandeya Katju’s family and the Nehru family both Kashmiri Pandits .. from Allahabad are old family friends. His loyalty to the Nehru.. (and Gandhi added to it) …is firm.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Big progress has been made.

    The GDP of India, the 3rd largest economy in the world, has grown from a merge 93.7 billion rupees in 1950 to about 100973.81 billion rupees in 2012, with the Congress party in power for over 50 years and no thanks to NaModi.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Imagine if narsimha Rao and vajpayee would not have been there… we would have been stuck with the licence Raj and Socialist economy of 3% growth

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Ahh! Tel Maalish N Astrology N Whisky PM!

    vijay ! Reply:

    Dhirendra BRAHAMCHARI (!) the original HIndu saint,

    Sharda Mata the Saadhvi…!!!!

    Want more names :)

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Your PM’s ?

    vijay ! Reply:

    Nehru and Indira;s saints…

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Check the history of your PM, How he used to gaze with deep Nassela n raseela eyes at his own younger versions.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Check the history of your PM, How he used to gaze with deep Nassela n raseela eyes at his own younger versions.

    vijay ! Reply:

    DOnt ask me why,,, section 377 has been reappealed. It will break your heart…

    devduttkumar Reply:

    My heart doesn’t break for these things.

    Anonymous Reply:

    that was for his writing inspiration ..any way he was an honourable man; So also MMS; my fear is if MMS hangs in there he will lose all credibility and respect he has…may be it is already lost

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Forget about MMS. Anybody against BJP will lose credibility through a sustained campaign.
    -

    Few examples :
    Sonia was refused by Kalam.
    Sukanya Rape case.

    These people can go to any length. The latest I got to know that Chandan Mitra wrote an editorial piece claiming Guru was the first one to attack, shoot and kill 3 policemen during the Parliament attack.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    kya keh rahe ho!

    Sonia G refused by Kalam? This is fantastic nonsense in Nehru’s own words!!!!!!!

    Will you survive this after your insult to the great sacrificial act of self renunciation of the great mataji?

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    What is so special with MMS?? This guy has no guts. It is Narsimha Rao who took the executive decision and liberated India from clutches of corrupt ideas.
    Rao has been consigned to history, his legacy is being forcefully obliterated and now it is just” JAI MATA DI”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes that is true.

    When modi comes in we should target 12-13% annual growth rate and make India a world manufacturing hub.

    As it is the petrochem scenario will change and we would need to explore shale gas or go Solar ( where Modi has shown the way)

    Rao, Vajpayee and Modi will be the real growth stories of India.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If the COngress has thrown out the Rao legacy, the BJP can use him. After all , all the fakes anyway called Rao a secret saffronite !!!!!!!!

    devduttkumar Reply:

    BJP always “aspired” to be the Congress. Nothing new.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The Congress of Rao took the BJP economic policies

    devduttkumar Reply:

    In history or geography books ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    WHy dont you remove Rahul baby’s photo from your table and put Rao’s picture and see the reaction in Congress?

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Non-consequential.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Oh!! Poor baby !! Too darpok…

    I want to see you walk into the AICC office with a phto of Rao and Patel in hand.

    Mata will send the wolves after you.

    PS: I have been a vistor to various congress offices as a youth COngress member between 1975-1981

    I can tell you tales of how people who backed Menaka after Sanjay’s death became CIA agents

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Time to re-visit.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I have been a vistor to various congress offices as a youth COngress member between 1975-1981

    I can tell you tales of how people who backed Menaka after Sanjay’s death became CIA agents. Even Ambika Soni was out. Dumpy was dumped.

    So dont back the wrong man. Mataji watches everything.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Heard enough. Known many.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But your fake identity will not get you an entry there.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Neither. in an Astrology book.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinod Sharma ji wants a Bharat Ratna for Vajpayee.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    I thought only Madrassa educated guys had some qualitative issues. This guy beats them all.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is a very close race between him and other dumbos here. Below he has tried to change the story to Bharat Ratna, Vajpayee and Vinod Sharma.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think you are too blinded by the Congress Ma aur Beta Seva Dal.

    Please read a blog by Vinod Sharma called “abki baari Atal Bihari.:

    We3ll as your intellect is poor you can improve it by interacting with bloggers here and also by reading more. It is imperitive that you raise yourself a bit to talk to us.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    You truly have an acute reading comprehension problem. He said something very different from what you are trying to point out.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Bipinshaw is a madrasa product, Dumb, but still a product.

    Pathakji, can’t you see the guy?

    Anonymous Reply:

    The Congress under the family is still pushing for reforms set in motion by Rao. It is the BJP which has been opposing all the initiatives, even threatening to reverse the reforms. Time for you to undergo a thorough reeducation.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The real economic growth takes place in Gujarat and Tamil Nadu. In COngress ruled states… it is all copy Modi or make money for Vadra.

    Anonymous Reply:

    GDP all India: Rs 8,279,976
    Maharashtra: Rs 1,160,000 (14%)
    Andhra Pradesh: Rs 676,234 (8%)
    —-
    Tamil Nadu : Rs 635,044 (7.67%)
    Gujarat: Rs 560,000 (6.76%)

    These two states alone driving India’s economic growth with 14% share! 14% is not equal to 100%. No wonder you are a dumbo. Time for you to get back to primary school and relearn basic Arithmetic. Keep away from Sangh Parvar’s Vedic Ganit.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What is the population of mahrashtra DUMBO?

    How many companies based in Gujarat and TN have head offices in Mumbai where they file their balance sheets and show income DUMBO?

    Who is showing the way manufacturing of scale can be done in India DUMBO?

    Bipin… please get the entire think empty tank of Cognress to answer this DUMBO

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Why do these companies have their HQ in Mumbai and file their Balance Sheets there?

    Anonymous Reply:

    There are well known reasons why corporations and businesses prefer Maharashtra and Mumbai. Shed tears that they do not prefer to shift their HQs to TN and Gujarat. The reverse is also true. companies based in Tamil Nadu and Gujarat also invest in other states too. Being a dumbo, you missed this completely.

    Let us have the ‘actual’ figures of manufacturing and services from these two states to back up your claim that these two states with 11% of the country’s population and 14% of the GDP is responsible for India becoming the 3rd largest economy in the world.

    Is it a case for you that flyovers are built and power plants get set up in UP or Haryana or in Maharashtra because of Modi scare or Jaya sneezes every morning?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Missed growth in agriculture? Deliberate?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Include everything.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What are we are debating? Gujarat’s growth vis a vis India?

    Or, vinoo’s statement that real economic development only is only happening in Gujarat and TN?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Wait for a reply.from the dumbo.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Who claimed that India’s GDP grew by so much and then brought in Modi? What’s the point being made? What is the average rate of growth over the years in last 60-65 years? How does it compare with Gujarat’s growth under Modi? Now, that would be a fair comparison.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Good;
    Without looking at your numbers, I had the same question.What is the population difference between Maharashtra, andhra and Gujrat population. Mumbai had been historically, a center of industries, as developed by Britishers. Maharashtra, is reaping rich dividends because of Mumbai, Congress has nothing to do with it. Area wise, Gujrat is much smaller, with lot of unfertile land, neglect of decades etc. When compared one to one, average Gujrati is much more productive than maharashtrian. What we are trying to compare at this point is governance, as being given by present dispensation in Gujrat, vis a vis, maharashtra/ Andhra pradesh. Gujrat beat them hollow, any time.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Per Capita GDP.2011-2012, some states

    Haryana: Rs 108,859
    Maharashtra: Rs 101,314
    Tamil Nadu: Rs 94,796
    Kerala: Rs 83,725
    Gujarat: Rs 81,400

    More tears to shed for the dumbos, Modi loses this round too. Any other yardstick to SHOW he is better than the others? Human Development Indices!

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ha;
    Haryana- Astronomical real estate, price rise. any industry worth its mark as national level? except for Maruti- Ex- Sarkari company.
    Maharashtra- historically developed Mumbai, all India investment there for that reason.
    Kerala- Gulf Money, any industry of national leve?
    Do not address every one, contesting you, as Dumbo, People may be forced to give you names as well, Bimbo!!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Another dumb comment by another dumbo. It would be very obvious to others that each state will make use of and exploit the resources available for progress and development to make life better for its citizens. Shed more tears, Modi does not have gulf money, historical Mumbai, astronomical real estate and the Taj Mahal, hence Gujarat is not what he wants people to believe. Didn’t those sadbhavana fasts and 3D images help?

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    He has uprooted congress from Gujrat and will screw it in Delhi. Wait and watch, you moron.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ANd with the hanging of Guru, the congress has actually become inseparable from the BJP!

    engrich Reply:

    U MEAN TO SAY IN STUPIDITIES.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But, Pathakji,

    nobody, not even Indira Gandhi could beat the biggest debauche of all: Jawaharlal Nehru. I hope you have not forgotten his bartering Kashmir to Pakistanis under Edwina’s “advice”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Narisimha Rao was a Congressman, so credit for dismantling the licence raj and socialist economy also goes to Congress and not to Modi.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Not true. Patel and Rao belong to the BJP.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes… both of them were always hated by teh COngress.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    they only had associate status. Rao wore his chaddi under his khadi dhoti and khadi kurta. Patel died too early before being “converted”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Narasimha Rao was a sanghi chaddiwala under his dhoti. Ask your chum engrich.

    Anonymous Reply:

    A consolation prize for all the dumbos here.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And we have the biggest lot of people on dole for any country after the garibi hatao of the 60’s and now NREGA etc etc.

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    engrich Reply:

    The German philosopher Martin Heidegger supported the Nazis.

    According to heidegger: “the Führer himself
    and alone is the German reality, present and future, and its
    law.”

    Denis
    Dutton on Walter Kaufmann and Martin Heidegger…

    Someone
    asked Heidegger how he could allow a man as ”uncultivated” as Hitler to rule
    Germany.

    Heidegger
    merely replied: ”Culture doesn’t matter. Just look at his marvelous
    hands.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Engrich

    WHich leader of coutnries you admire– Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Bangladesh, Ethopia, Sudan etc— has even a fraction of intelligence and talent as Modi?

    Modi would match Obama and Thatcher in his ability to speak and get things done.

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    engrich Reply:

    has even a fraction of intelligence and talent as Modi?

    he is pure stupid that is why so many cases agaist him.

    U SAY……Modi would match Obama and Thatcher in his ability to speak and get things done.

    that is why their economies are going down.modi is darling because he is selling our land to foreign invading corporates.

  • Anonymous

    Ravi has disappeared!

    Seems that the Na -Pak hafees act has scared him!

    Or was he Afzal as Gopi thinks? If he was afsal, may his soul rest in peace.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    It appears that he terrorists are as confused as the congressmen and journalists at the sudden hanging of Guru.

    It looks like regrouping will take time and needs consultations. Fake Ravi is at Muridke now confabulating with the side kicks of Hafiz.

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  • Anonymous

    The CBI will now tour everywhere, except visit the only place where they will get a clue as to which bank the money went to.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    no one has an account in his/her own name. it’s all under fake company’s name and the funds are transferred through a maze of ‘even more’ fictitious companies.

    so, like conspiracies in crime – it is difficult to prove.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I agree.

    Sonia Gandhi is too dumb to remember all the secret passwords, codes and numbers. I think Ahmed Patel will spill the beans once given the right kind of pressure.

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  • Anonymous

    Under two saints of the purest virtue, MMS and Saint Antony, the biggest scams in the world have taken place!

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  • pankaj#1

    Two television aerials met on a rooftop. They fell in love and were married. Although the ceremony was dreadful, the reception was excellent.

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  • pankaj#1

    Life today has become So ‘LESS’;
    ☎Phone: Cordless
    Cooking: Fireless➿
    Food: Fatless
    Dress: Sleeveless
    … Leaders: Shameless
    Govt: Hopeless
    Job: Thankless
    Police: Clueless
    Policies: Aimless
    Conduct: Worthless
    Relations: Meaningles
    Attitude: Careless
    Feelings: Heartless
    Education: Valueless
    Arguments: Baseless
    Days: Restless
    Nights: Sleepless
    Future: Directionless➿
    ☕cup of tea: sugarless
    Still d Expectations are ENDLESS! ♨

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  • pankaj#1

    A kid was crying standing outside his house.
    A passer by asked:
    Why are you crying?
    Kid: My parents are fighting inside the house.
    Passer by: Who is your father?
    Kid: That”s what the fight is about.

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  • pankaj#1

    Valentine died for love,
    Romeo also died for love,
    Jack in titanic died for love,
    Samson in the Bible died for love,
    Greek heroes & Hercules died 4 love. Even Jesus Christ died for love! where are the women?

    Don’t buy any woman a Valentines treat this year until she gives u atleast 5 names of women who died for love… Because no woman would die for love…
    Wake up guys…

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  • pankaj#1

    Valentine died for love,
    Romeo also died for love,
    Jack in titanic died for love,
    Samson in the Bible died for love,
    Greek heroes & Hercules died 4 love. Even Jesus Christ died for love! where are the women?

    Don’t buy any woman a Valentines treat this year until she gives u atleast 5 names of women who died for love… Because no woman would die for love…
    Wake up guys…

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  • pankaj#1

    QUOTE OF THE DAY

    I’ve been on a diet for two weeks and all I’ve lost is two weeks.

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  • pankaj#1

    QUOTE OF THE DAY

    I’ve been on a diet for two weeks and all I’ve lost is two weeks.

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  • pankaj#1

    Worth Reading .. This is an actual letter taken from the Times of India in response to a `Marriage Proposal’ advertisement.
    Madam, I am one young gentleman living only with myself in Patna . I am seeing ur advertisement for marriage purpose in the daily newspaper. So I decide to press myself on u and I am hopping you will make the marriage with me.
    I am the son of my father & mother of agriculture… family from inside Patna . I having no sister and no brother also. I become big in Patna only. I educate myself in the Zuarilal Himmatlal High School , Bezna Road . I am nice and big, six foots tall and six inches long. My body is filled with hardness why because I am working hardly. I am playing also hardly. Especially I am liking the cricket. I am a good batter also I am fast baller. Whenever I am coming running for the balling, all batters are running everywhere why because they are afraiding my balls. My balls are bouncing too much high. That is very danger for them.I am very nice gentleman. I always laughing loudly at everyone. I am happy always and gay also. Ladies they are saying I am nice and soft because I giving respect to them. I am always liking if ladies are on top. That is how nice I am. I am not having any bad habits. I drink milk only and no other bad things. I am not chewing cigarettes or eating gutka paan why because it not good for all the peoples. So I am not doing so. I am keep fitting everyday. Morning I am going to jim and I am pumping like anything. Daily I am pumping and pumping. If you want you can came and see how I pumping the dumb bells in the jim. And now good muscles are come outing everywhere.I am having very much money in my pant everyday and my pant is everyday open for you why because I am nice gentleman, but still I am living with myself only. What to do? So I am taking my things into my own hands everyday. That is why I want to press myself on you, so that you will come and take my things into your hands.
    Yours truely -H.yadav

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  • pankaj#1

    Boyfriend: Can we have a battle of intelligence between us?
    Girlfriend: No thanks, I don”t fight an unarmed person.

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  • pankaj#1

    A boss interviewed 4 girls for a Secretary position.
    He asked the same question to each one of them and the question was:
    A woman has lips in two different places on her body, what is the difference between the two lips?
    … 1st Girl: One is hairy, the other isn’t.
    Boss: Ok, Good!
    2nd Girl: One can talk but the other can’t.
    Boss: That’s better
    3rd Girl: One is vertical and other is horizontal.
    Boss: Hmmmm…Very clever
    4th Girl: One is for me to use and the other is for my boss.
    Boss: You are hired…!!!
    A boss interviewed 4 girls for a Secretary position.
    He asked the same question to each one of them and the question was:
    A woman has lips in two different places on her body, what is the difference between the two lips?
    … 1st Girl: One is hairy, the other isn’t.
    Boss: Ok, Good!
    2nd Girl: One can talk but the other can’t.
    Boss: That’s better
    3rd Girl: One is vertical and other is horizontal.
    Boss: Hmmmm…Very clever
    4th Girl: One is for me to use and the other is for my boss.
    Boss: You are hired…!!!

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  • pankaj#1

    Good Night. Sleep tight.

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  • Anonymous

    Brilliant reply to Katju’s rant on Modi.

    http://www.mediacrooks.com/2013/02/justice-for-10000-killed-in-gujarat-2002_16.html#comment-form

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Mohan ..what he wrote of his reputation as a Judge is true. When Katju was in the Supreme Court… senior advocates from courts other than Allahabad ..and not accustomed to his unpredictable ways avoided appearing in his court. I have also noticed that displaced Kashmiri Pandits .. although their plight is due to the mishandling of Kashmir by Nehru , never blame him and they are generally loyal to the Congress.

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  • Anonymous

    Name ‘the family’ Italian court papers mention, BJP says

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Name-the-family-Italian-court-papers-mention-BJP-says/articleshow/18524064.cms
    NEW DELHI: The BJP on Friday stepped up its attack on the government over the VVIP helicopter scam by asking it to name “who benefitted from kickbacks” in the deal and which was the “the family” referred to in the Italian court documents.

    Claiming that the government was trying to cover up the bribery case, BJP accused the UPA of diverting attention to non-issues like changes made in the specifications of the helicopters, when the quality of the machine was not in question.

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  • Anonymous

    Italian media hints at Cong link to copter scam

    http://www.dailypioneer.com/home/online-channel/360-todays-newspaper/127688-italian-media-hints-at-cong-link-to-copter-scam.html

    AgustaWestland chopper deal too has telltale signs of a Congress connection. According to the Italian newspaper ‘Lettera 43’, main commission agent Christian Michel’s late father was “close to the Congress party”, and the other middleman, Guido Ralph Haschke, was a Director of Emaar-MGF, a real estate company owned by relatives of Kanishka Singh, who is associated with a Congress high-up.

    Michel was also the agent of Dassault, which has emerged as the lowest bidder for the Indian Air Force’s 10 billion dollar deal for Rafale fighter jets, supposed to be the world’s biggest tender.

    According to the Italian newspaper report on November 20, 2012, the “mysterious” British citizen Michel, described as “Man of Bears”, had received 60 per cent (around `210 crore) of the kickback amount of 51 million Euros (around `360 crore) from the Finmeccanica, the manufactures of AgustaWestland choppers.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Cong is in power, so there is a congress link. The same thing would have happened under BJP too; may not be under Modi. It is greedy, unprincipled people .. A major fault is our educational system – It has to be values based, it has to teach in high school the glory of India and how they can make it better etc etc… It is time to look into other successful democracies – what is preventing major corruption in those countries

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  • Anonymous

    Dear Pathak G and Super dumbo Bipin SHahji

    Bibek Debroy was the Director of Rajiv gandhi Institute, the blue eyed boy of the COngress. Now why is he saying that Modi and Gujarat are the best???

    Imagine you guys in your Jai Mata di sloganeering for Raj Mata forgot to see what Bibek Debroy saw—

    From First Post

    ++++++++++

    As for Bibek Debroy, he says that there is a clear Gujarat story, even if one cannot credit Narendra Modi alone for it. Even in social sector, he says the judgment will have to wait, since data before 2007 is “not pertinent” and “social sector outcomes often improve with a time lag.”

    In excerpts from his book carried by The Economic Times, Debroy says the Gujarat growth model is about “freeing up space for private initiative and enterprise and the creation of an enabling environment by the state. It is one of decentralisation of planning and empowering people. It is about targeted public expenditure through specific schemes, supplementing CSSs (central social schemes) with state-specific schemes.”

    And where does Modi come into the picture, especially since Debroy says the state has always had some advantages in terms of a good industrial legacy and entrepreneurship? Says Debroy: “The present political leadership has also had a role in empowering the bureaucracy, clamping down on corruption, decentralising planning and delivery and focused intervention for backward regions and segments.”

    He concludes: “While disentangling (Gujarat’s historical strengths from Modi’s contributions) is difficult, it would be uncharitable and unfair to deny this…element. The pride in “asmita” begins from the top. And if that is disseminated and successfully trickles down, quite a bit has been achieved.”

    The vote, on balance, supports the theory that Modi has directly added to the Gujarat Development Lore.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dono Pathak aur Bipin Shah confuse ho gaye… ki yeh kya hua…

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    The country has had enough of this nonsense. .Can the government set up a non-partisan Board which includes defence experts, financial experts, distinguished persons who are respected in the country , for procurement of defence equipment. The appointments to this Board can be made in consultation with the Leader of the Opposition ,of both houses. Atleast security of the country would not be compromised and should not be allowed to suffer. The proposals of this Board can be sent to CCS or CCEA for final approval.
    Rules shall ensure that Bidding companies should make presentations only to the Full Board and not to any individual members.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    If you can not trust ACM, then who can you trust ?

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Did you trust the COAS ? I hope the ACM is not held liable for breach of trust

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    If you can not trust the COAS, who can you trust ?

    Actually, it’s good. The halo is gone.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Can u trust Bibek Debroy onow….. or does aunty think he purchased saffron chaddies?

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  • Anonymous

    Amul Baby seems to be earnest and humble (I have to say he was always humble)… Bahuguna wanted the party to declare him as the PM candidate In a meeting in Uttarkhand. Amul was quite critical saying the issue is not the PM candidate, but building the party.

    He also said that in a recent meeting in UP there were 200 CM candidates, and even a candidate for the secretary general of UN .

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  • Anonymous

    The study found that granulated sugar poured directly into bed sores, leg ulcers and even amputation promotes healing when antibiotics and other treatments have failed.

    The sugar draws water from the wound into a dressing accelerating the healing process, which is prescribed in African folk medicine, said Moses Murandu, senior lecturer in adult nursing at Wolverhampton University.

    He grew up in Zimbabwe where his father used sugar to heal wounds and reduce pain when he was a child. When Murandu moved to the Britain, he realised that sugar was not recognised as a traditional medicine that had something to offer, the Daily Mail reports.

    One of the patients receiving treatment as part of the research is Alan Bayliss, from Birmingham, who was being treated at Moseley Hall Hospital’s amputee rehabilitation ward.

    He underwent an above-the-knee amputation on his right leg due to an ulcer at the Queen Elizabeth (QE) Hospital Birmingham in January 2013, and as part of the surgery a vein was removed from his left leg.

    For his post-surgery rehabilitation, Bayliss was moved to Moseley Hall Hospital where standard dressings were used but the left leg cavity wound was not healing effectively.

    Nurses contacted Murandu and Bayliss was given the sugar treatment and within two weeks the wound had drastically reduced in size.

    Bayliss, a 62-year-old electrical engineer, said: “It has been revolutionary. The actual wound was very deep – it was almost as big as my finger. When Moses first did the dressing he almost used the whole pot of sugar, but two weeks later he only needed to use four or five teaspoons.”

    Staff Nurse Jonathan Janneman said: “One of the main benefits has been the morale of the patient. He could see the cavity in his leg as well as having been unwell and through operations.

    “But the sugar has given something to hold on to. It is amazing that something as simple as sugar has given him a morale boost – the psychological benefit is up there with the physical benefits,” Janneman added.

    So far 35 patients receiving treatment have seen their condition improve, with no adverse effects reported, compared with 16 patients who did not have the treatment.

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  • Anonymous

    Propaganda darshan

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/TheSiegeWithin/entry/propaganda-darshan

    A very good article by M J Akbar on helicopters corruption case .

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    He says, Jagan Reddy has been repeatedly denied bail on the specious argument that, despite being out of power, he might still have enough influence over officials to subvert their investigation. Compare this with the generosity towards coal minister Shriprakash Jaiswal, who is suspected of being complicit in the scam; he is close to the owners of AMR Iron and Steel Pvt Ltd, one of the beneficiaries. Jaiswal was not even shifted to another portfolio, let alone dropped. Officials in charge of files report to him. Should we be terribly surprised if CBI cannot get them?

    Thanks for sharing this.

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  • Anonymous

    WHY ARE PATHAK AND dumb dumbo dumber Bipin Shah verbally consitpated?

    Ever since I have posted the link where the G Parivar’s favourite boy Bibek Debroy changed Chaddies, and praised Modi…. both Bipin Shah and Pathak seem to have run of to the AICC office to await instructions on how to defame Bibek Debroy— who was the Director of the Rajiv Gandhi Institute of Studies (!)

    [Reply]

    Gopi_Thomass Reply:

    On account of Bibek Debroy scare.

    [Reply]

  • Amar

    NCR, Maharashtra got 50% of FDI in last 12 yrs

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/business-news/WorldEconomy/NCR-Maharashtra-got-50-of-FDI-in-last-12-yrs/Article1-1012875.aspx

    Maharashtra attracted maximum foreign inflows at USD 61.23 billion, 33% of total FDI inflows during April 2000-November 2012, industry ministry data (DIPP) showed.

    Karnataka attracted the third highest FDI inflows worth USD 10.43
    billion during the period, followed by Tamil Nadu (USD 9.72 billion),
    Gujarat (USD 8.53 billion), Andhra Pradesh (USD 7.58 billion) and West
    Bengal (USD 2.14 billion).

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Amar,

    why Maharashtra figures on the top of the FDI list has been explained away by many experts in panel discussions on TV and even Vinoo has explained it here two days ago.

    It is simply because most of the corporates have their registered offices in Mumbai and also file their corporate tax returns in Mumbai.

    Other than this, Maharashtra is nowhere on the radar of FDI investors.

    [Reply]

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Karachi: Pakistani construction tycoon Malik Riaz has signed a
    multi-billion dollar deal with Abu Dhabi group to build the world’s tallest
    building in the country overtaking Dubai’s Burj Khalifa.

    The project is
    likely to come up on an island some 3 to 4 kilometres off the coast of Karachi
    and into the Arabian sea.

    Riaz is confident that the project will
    generate around 2.5 million jobs and promote investment opportunities for
    different industries.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Not my post. Contents should explain.
    Vinodji, posts are being hacked,. Please strengthen your cyber defence.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    why will Vinodji stop this hacking, when it is being done with his consent by his two jihadi chelas?

    Anonymous Reply:

    It can be called “Hawa Mahal”.

    The restaurant will serve dog meat. And It will be called “The Bow Bow Restaurant”.

    Fake Ravi is already eating horse meat for the last six months, but he believes that it is beef.

    [Reply]

    Gopi_Thomass Reply:

    You are a Congi agent and this is paid news with figures supplied by 10, Janpath. For truthful figures, you have to get them from Modi’s PR agencies. Modi attracted USD 853 billion worth of FDI in the last one year. alone, thanks to Gujarat Vibrant Summit and to Modi scare.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    CBI hasn’t cracked any defence scandal in last 30 years

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/CBI-hasnt-cracked-any-defence-scandal-in-last-30-years/articleshow/18537132.cms

    Can we realistically believe that CBI will solve this helicopter scam case?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    This time, It will definitely solve the case. It will say, definitely, that there was no bribe taken by any Indians and certainly not by ‘the family’.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please don’t under estimate our CBI. If they investigate ‘thoroughly’ they may find Modi family with many children and will put blame of all this on Modi.

    [Reply]

    raj Reply:

    True. Blame it on somebodyelse for Modi’s children. Very ingenious.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But Modi’s children are all in Pakistan!

    Gopi_Thomass Reply:

    Where in Pakistan do you live?

  • engrich
  • vinayak purohit

    मोदी पर काटजू और भाजपा आमने-सामने

    रविवार, 17 फ़रवरी, 2013 को
    16:33 IST तक के समाचार

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    प्रिंट करें

    जस्टिस मार्कंडेय काटजू अपने विवादास्पद बयानों के कारण अक्सर
    सुर्ख़ियों में रहते हैं

    प्रमुख विपक्षी दल भारतीय जनता पार्टी के वरिष्ठ नेता और राज्य
    सभा में नेता प्रतिपक्ष अरूण जेटली ने प्रेस काउंसिल ऑफ़ इंडिया के अध्यक्ष जस्टिस
    मार्कंडेय काटजू पर हमला करते हुए उनसे अपना पद छोड़ने की मांग की है.

    जस्टिस काटजू ने कुछ दिनों पहले अंग्रेज़ी दैनिक ‘द हिंदू’ में एक लेख लिखा था
    जिसमें उन्होंने गुजरात के मुख्यमंत्री नरेंद्र मोदी पर जमकर हमला किया था.

    संबंधित समाचार

    ‘गिलानी की नज़रबंदी हिटलरशाही की हरकत’

    काटजू की नज़र में पाकिस्तान ‘फ़र्ज़ी’ देश

    भारतीयों को बेवकूफ़ बतानेवाले काटजू को कानूनी
    नोटिस

    टॉपिक

    भारत

    उसी लेख से नाराज़ भाजपा ने अब मांग की है कि या तो जस्टिस काटजू प्रेस काउंसिल
    ऑफ इंडिया के अध्यक्ष पद से ख़ुद इस्तीफ़ा दें या उन्हें हटा दिया जाए.

    भाजपा की ओर से पार्टी के वरिष्ठ नेता और राज्य सभा में नेता प्रतिपक्ष अरूण
    जेटली ने एक पत्र लिखकर कहा है कि जस्टिस काटजू का लेख पूरी तरह से राजनीतिक और
    पूर्वाग्रह से ग्रसित है.

    काटजू ने अपने लेख में मोदी की आलोचना करते हुए देश के लोगों से अपील की थी कि
    वे सोच-समझकर प्रधानमंत्री चुनें.

    ‘राजनीतिक टिप्पणी’

    “जिस तरह से जस्टिस काटजू ने बिहार,पश्चिम बंगाल
    और गुजरात जैसे ग़ैर-कांग्रेसी राज्यों पर टिप्पणी की है क्या उन्होंने कभी
    कांग्रेस के घोर भ्रष्टाचार पर टिप्पणी की है.”

    रविशंकर प्रसाद, भाजपा
    प्रवक्ता

    जेटली के पत्र का ज़िक्र करते हुए भाजपा प्रवक्ता रविशंकर प्रसाद ने सवाल उठाया
    कि, ”जिस तरह से जस्टिस काटजू ने बिहार,पश्चिम बंगाल और गुजरात जैसे
    ग़ैर-कांग्रेसी राज्यों पर टिप्पणी की है क्या उन्होंने कभी कांग्रेस के घोर
    भ्रष्टाचार पर टिप्पणी की है.”

    लेकिन जेटली के लिखे पत्र पर जवाब देते हुए जस्टिस काटजू ने कहा कि अरूण जेटली
    को राजनीति से इस्तीफ़ा दे देना चाहिए. काटजू ने कहा कि उन्होंने फ़ेसबुक पर कुछ
    लिखने के लिए महाराष्ट्र में दो लड़कियों की गिरफ़्तारी पर महाराष्ट्र सरकार की
    कड़ी आलोचना की थी जो कि कांग्रेस शासित राज्य है.

    काटजू ने कहा कि अफ़ज़ल गुरू की फांसी के बाद दिल्ली के पत्रकार इफ़्तिख़ार
    गिलानी के साथ पुलिस के दुर्व्यवहार पर भी उन्होंने फ़ौरन कार्रवाई करते हुए इसके
    लिए ज़िम्मेदार पुलिस वाल के ख़िलाफ़ सख़्त कार्रवाई करने की मांग की थी.

    ‘जनता को सोचना चाहिए’

    “अरूण जेटली को राजनीति से इस्तीफ़ा दे देना
    चाहिए. मैंने फ़ेसबुक पर कुछ लिखने के लिए महाराष्ट्र में दो लड़की की गिरफ़्तारी
    पर महाराष्ट्र सरकार की कड़ी आलोचना की थी जो कि कांग्रेस शासित राज्य है. ”

    जस्टिस काटजू, प्रेस काउंसिल ऑफ़ इंडिया के
    अध्यक्ष

    काटजू ने अपने लेख में कहा था कि गोधरा में दर असल क्या हुआ था, अभी भी ये एक
    रहस्य बना हुआ है.

    गोधरा कांड के बाद मुसलमानों को निशाना बनाने और हज़ारों लोगों को जान से मारने
    और उनके घर लूटने की कार्रवाई की हिटलर के नाज़ी जर्मनी से तुलना करते हुए जस्टिस
    काटजू ने लिखा था कि गुजरात दंगा पूर्व नियोजित था.

    उन्होने ये भी लिखा था कि वे इस बात को मानने के लिए तैयार नहीं कि 2002 के
    गुजरात दंगों में मुख्यमंत्री नरेंद्र मोदी का कोई हाथ नहीं था.

    उन्होंने मोदी के विकास के दावों को भी ख़ारिज करते हुए लिखा था कि गुजरात में
    48 फ़ीसदी बच्चे कुपोषित हैं और शिशु मृत्यु दर बहुत अधिक है.

    उन्होंन अंत में भारतीयों से अपील की थी कि वो अपने वोट डालते समय इस चीज़ों का
    ख़्याल रखें नहीं तो वे भी वहीं ग़लती करेंगे जो 1933 के चुनाव में जर्मनी की जनता
    ने की थी.

    उनका इशारा हिटलक के चुने जाने की तरफ़ था

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  • ashok bajpai

    Respected family and all the believers.

    Asalam u alikum
    (peace up on you)

    I thank almighty, that he has chosen me for this
    stature. From my side, I want to congratulate all the believers. We all should
    stay with truth and righteousness, and our end must also come on the path of
    truth and righteousness. My request to my family is that instead of grieving
    over my end, they should respect the stature I have achieved.

    Almighty
    God is your greatest protector and greatest help.

    I leave you in Allah’s
    protection.”

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Bangladesh to Ban Jamaat-e Islami. Indians, be bold, ban all the communal outfits. Mostly Muslims, but include Hindus as well, if there is one. Jelly heart Vinod and his ilks, are to be banished. They are really hurting and destroying India. In all sincerety I am saying this. These people do not know, what is right and what is wrong. Char kitaben padh kar, they have found themselves in a position to change destiny of a Nation, like India?? It is a quirk of fate, that they are surviving and thriving. Psuedos to the core and greedy opportunists.

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    vijay1 Reply:

    Dubai is famous for its high skyscrapers, numerous shopping centers, and
    luxury tourism. However, Dubai is also becoming known as a center for
    religious conversion. According to the Ministry of Islamic Affairs,
    4,229 people embraced Islam in Dubai in 2012. The majority of the
    converts (70%) were women.

    For more on Islam in the UAE, see:

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    Dubai Builds First Green Mosque

    UAE Bank Law Frustrates Expat Women

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    The Ministry and the Islamic Information Centre said that they are
    available to those wishing to learn more about Islam, providing
    information in several languages via workshops and responding to
    people’s questions.

    The number of conversions in Dubai increases every year. The Islamic
    Information Centre plays an important role in providing information
    about Islam. Visitors can also listen to testimonies given by people
    speaking about their own conversions to Islam, conducted in their own
    language.

    Globally, more and more people are embracing Islam. Some countries,
    such as Italy and England, posted record numbers of converts last year
    posted. Islam is considered as the world’s fastest growing religion.
    It is also the religion that most affects the youth as the median age
    was 23 years, lower than that of other faith communities

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    Gopi_Thomass Reply:

    To counter this, Pravin Togadia, the International Working President of the VHP must set up centers all over the world to convert the converted people to Hinduism. Modi can provide the money out of the investments that are promised during the vibrant gujarat summits.

    [Reply]

    vijay Reply:

    hindu is born not converted.pravin tagodia is gundaa and murderer not religious man.nityanand should do this.

    Anonymous Reply:

    engrich,

    you are a jihadi ****, incapable of understanding insults hurled at you. You also lack courage to post under your own name.

    You should be made manager of Bow Bow Restaurant in Dubai.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi and engrich

    Kyon Papa hafees ke chehre se darr kar shakal nahi dikha paa rahe?

  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Katju found it so necessary to speak against Mamata Banerjea, then he had an issue against Nitish Kumar , then against Narendra Bhai Modi. But this fellow was not moved by the CWG scam, the Coal Gate scam, the 2G Scam, the chopper scam , the govts prevarication on the Anna Hazare movement for LOKPAL , the Govt lathi charge against Baba Ramdev , the police action against the Gang-rape protestors. What is wrong if it said that he is more Congress than the Congress Party. He is totally unfit to hold that post which is non-partisan in nature. Does he have higher ambitions ? Does he want to enter the Rajya Sabha ? We will know .. in the days to come.

    [Reply]

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Another champion of Secularism .. Fali Nariman .. father of just resigned Solicitor General Rohinton Nariman …did we hear even a whisper from him against ….CWG scam, the Coal Gate scam, the 2G Scam, the chopper scam , the govts prevarication on the Anna Hazare movement for LOKPAL , the Govt lathi charge against Baba Ramdev , the police action against the Gang-rape protestors…” eminent jurist” ..

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen

    Katju has been given the mandate by Kapil Sibal to make the media salute the dumb Baby Amul and Congress. This government is evil incarnate which has prostituted all government posts with its cohorts.

    [Reply]

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Vinoo …That Katju is loyal to the Congress is not surprising… but what is surprising is his brazenness .

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I have said that this government has the capacity of limitless loot and cheating. It has subverted each institution and put in people without character and morality so that they support itsw evil intentions.

  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Katju found it so necessary to speak against Mamata Banerjea, then he had an issue against Nitish Kumar , then against Narendra Bhai Modi. But this fellow was not moved by the CWG scam, the Coal Gate scam, the 2G Scam, the chopper scam , the govts prevarication on the Anna Hazare movement for LOKPAL , the Govt lathi charge against Baba Ramdev , the police action against the Gang-rape protestors. What is wrong if it said that he is more Congress than the Congress Party. He is totally unfit to hold that post which is non-partisan in nature. Does he have higher ambitions ? Does he want to enter the Rajya Sabha ? We will know .. in the days to come.

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  • Anonymous

    Ever since the saffron colors of Bibek Debroy have been revealed…. Pathak and Bipin Shah are singing “yeh kya hua… kaise hua….”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    Ram Jethmalani has trashed all Modi baiters, including our own Vinod SHarmaji.

    http://www.sunday-guardian.com/analysis/let-truth-be-known-about-modi?fb_action_ids=3743940375682&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_ref=.USIA4W5HZII.like&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%223743940375682%22%3A421937391227323%7D&action_type_map=%7B%223743940375682%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=%7B%223743940375682%22%3A%22.USIA4W5HZII.like%22%7D

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have read it – where is the Vinod Sharma bit?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It is to be inferred. After all, he cannot be separated from the congress policy of planting sympathisers and camp followers as well as Mataji ke bhakt in constitutional bodies like PCI, NHRC, NMC etc……..

    Anonymous Reply:

    I see.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Very good article. But will the false propaganda against Modi ever stop? Latest to join the bandwagon in Katju.

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  • Anonymous

    The Congress, through its mouthpieces Teesta Setalvad and Sanjiv Bhatt maliciously fabricated a story, vigorously picked up by certain so called intellectuals and of course the anti national elements of our society, that Narendra Modi and the police administration conspired to carry out a pogrom by Hindus against Muslims and that the Gujarat riots were state sponsored. Undisputed statistics presented to the SIT show that in the first six days of the riots, 61 Hindus and 40 Muslims were killed in police firing. The death of any person in police firing is tragic. But does a police firing death toll with 60% casualties being Hindu indicate a pogrom by the state government against Muslims? The complaint of Zakia Jafri (filed at the behest of Teesta Setalvad) alleges that the riots that followed the Godhra train carnage were a conspiracy and a pogrom by the ruling party in Gujarat and its Chief Minister in which almost the entire administration was a co-conspirator. More particularly, they perpetrated a smear campaign that the Chief Minister had instructed the police officials not to interfere with or use force against the Hindus taking revenge against the Muslims. This allegation has not been supported by any evidence, except for the false testimony of Sanjiv Bhatt, which not only appeared suddenly after 10 years, but has also been demolished by positive evidence that he is lying.

    http://www.sunday-guardian.com/analysis/let-truth-be-known-about-modi?fb_action_ids=3743940375682&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_ref=.USIA4W5HZII.like&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%223743940375682%22%3A421937391227323%7D&action_type_map=%7B%223743940375682%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=%7B%223743940375682%22%3A%22.USIA4W5HZII.like%22%7D

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Katju says Arun Jaitley should quit politics. Then he shall say Mamta should go back to Congress. Then he shall advise Nitish Kumar to learn principles of freedom of press from Manish Tewari and Kapil Sibbal. That he should leave BJP and join hands with Congress Party. Then he shall advise Jaya to follow the footsteps of Karunanidhi. Then he shall instruct the world to abuse Narendra Bhai Modi. and stand along with Teesta Setalvad .
    Then finally he shall pass Orders that the country shall vote for Rahul Gandhi.

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  • Anonymous

    Just to change the mood a bit, posting the words of my favourite song from college.

    I had once sung it on stage. Was just watching the original Sanjeev Kumar SUchitra sen version. Unbeatable!! Kishore and Lata are unmatched.

    SO EVEN CA’S CAN BE ROMANTIC!

    Tere bina zindagi se koyi, shikwa, to nahi, shikwa nahi, shikwa nahi, shikwa nahi
    Tere bina zindagi bhi lekin, zindagi, to nahi, zindagi nahi, zindagi nahi, zindagi nahi
    Tere bina zindagi se koyi, shikwa, to nahi

    Kaash aisa ho tere qadmo se, chun ke manzil chale aur kahi door kahi – 2
    Tum gar saath ho, manzilo ki kami to nahi
    Tere bina zindagi se koyi, shikwa, to nahi

    Jee mein aata hai, tere daaman mein, sar jhuka ke ham rote rahe, rote rahe – 2
    Teri bhi aankho mein, aansuo ki nami to nahi

    Tere bina zindagi se koyi, shikwa, to nahi,
    shikwa nahi, shikwa nahi, shikwa nahi
    Tere bina zindagi bhi lekin, zindagi, to nahi,
    zindagi nahi, zindagi nahi, zindagi nahi

    Tum jo keh do to aaj ki raat, chaand doobega nahi, raat ko rok lo -2
    Raat ki baat hai, aur zindagi baaki to nahi

    Tere bina zindagi se koyi, shikwa, to nahi,

    ————

    Can be seen on You tube

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    Gulzar’s poetry always baffles me. What is the meaning of the first line, “tere bina…….”?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well close ur eyes and imagine a young vinoo on stage ibn srcc looking at agirl from hindu college and singin “i have no. Complaints against life withouut you…. but can my life be ever complete without you…”

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  • Anonymous

    Real men fight wars in battlefield, not rain death on innocent women and children

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/randomaccess/entry/real-men-fight-wars-in-battlefield-not-rain-death-on-innocent-women-and-children

    A very long must read article.

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  • Anonymous

    Time to pack off (non) Markandeya to full retirement… He is an insult to India
    Also time to get government out of press council, movie censorship….

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  • Anonymous

    Thailand: Amazing Thailand!
    India: Incredible India!
    Malaysia: Truly Asia!

    Wonder whats Pakistan’s Tourism tag line….
    ”Have a blast, it might be ur last!”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    good one, although sad … there was another blast yesterday blowing up 85 Shias..looks like the Prophet instituted a permanent schism among his children

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pakistan is a pure example of a **** state. Yeh ek sharia inspired hell hai. Shenoy is right when he calls it pak shit stan.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Do we have such people as Supreme Court Judges? What an *** he was making of himself on all the news channels…. talking nonsense..so far his rubbish was kept away from public gaze because he was a Judge of the supreme Court. The fellow deserves to be thrown out without delay from that public office…. Markandey Katju .. another gift to the people of India by the Congress Party.

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  • Anonymous

    Bihar farmer sets new world record, harvests 108.8 tonnes of potato per hecrtare BIHAR

    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/bihar-farmer-sets-new-world-record-harvests-1088-tonnes-of-potato-per-hecrtare/373609-3-232.html

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    vijay ! Reply:

    mohan c u in the new blog

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  • Sumit Bose

    Wow this dalal continues to amaze me. She is praising the emperor’s robes to the sky!

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    Abu Ahmed Reply:

    I know u r of the RSS or worse; that’s none of my business. You have betrayed your fascist outlook by calling the journalist a Dalal.

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  • GuillerminaBarthel

    I think that Rahul Gandhi is inspired from Grand Mother Indira gandhi in the Indian Congress.I think that he will run the congress government easily in coming future day .

    http://anataflex.net/

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