No return ticket for Musharraf to Pakistan?



General Pervez Musharraf is essentially day-dreaming when he says he’d be back in Pakistan before the 2013 elections. Another figment of his fantasy is the claim to joining active politics to “set things right” in the country hurtling from one crisis to another.

The elections in Pakistan will be contested on issues many of which germinated when Musharraf was in the saddle: the national reconciliation ordinance extending amnesty to corrupt politicos and bureaucrats; the US drone strikes for which his regime gave clearance and the trampling of the judiciary and the media that are now setting the agenda in the country.

Leave alone contesting polls, Musharraf will have problems campaigning or finding a secure home to live. A whole lot of jehadi groups and Baloch nationalists are on the prowl to take out the ex-President. The criminal cases brought against him could also see the higher judiciary he summarily dismissed getting back at him. He doesn’t have very many friends in the very Media he initially helped emerge as a powerful pillar of the State.

Diplomatic sources in the know insist the Pakistan Army has indicated to him that he’d be better off staying in London and Dubai. The khakis are keen to obviate the possibility of a former COAS being hauled up in courts, jailed or assassinated by extremist elements.

Head as does a fledgling party, Musharraf cannot win of his own. Nor is he an attractive contender for other established political outfits to set up an alliance with him. He says he can work with Imran Khan. But the former cricketer’s Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is avowedly anti-America and one of the biggest critics of drone strikes by the US forces in the region.

Be that as it may, the general remains his old cocky self, bar the realization that he made mistakes that caused his ouster from power and the country. He escaped retaliation because Army did not want its ex-Chief humiliated. It would have set a precedent for all future and former chiefs/generals some of whom are in the dock now for distributing funds to rig and manipulate elections in the 1980s.

So, logically Musharraf shouldn’t be allowed into Pakistan for the very reasons that he was forced out. But as the famous lawyer and PPP leader Aitzaz Ahsan often says— the only thing predictable about Pakistan is its past!

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  • vijay !

    Musharraf my Pal!

    DOnt worry … you can always find a home in the HT leadership summit…

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  • Anonymous

    RAVI arguing for shariat to be applied to muslims, in previous blog was most irritating. And vaary vaary stooopid, hope he stays away for one week, distracts and lowers intellectual std here.

    Now to call butcher of Kargil Mushy to India and give him daaru proves that India is spineless

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    engrich Reply:

    if muslims wants sharia to be applied on them,85%of pakistanis want sharia to run their country,what is your problem.

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    Sohail Reply:

    For the record, Sharia does not accord with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It is based on principles of inequality and injustice eg the evidence of women. It is derived from social practices and customs of primitive Semitic tribes and has no place in a modern society.

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    engrich Reply:

    what to do when all other systems have failed.present human rights are western zoinists human right based on lesbianism homonsexuality alcoholism,interest economy and assimilation.which are not our values.we are seeing their human rights in ghaza.

    Sohail Reply:

    Everyone has a right to live their life in justice and peace.All other systems have not failed. China is doing very well , so is India and Russia, not frgetting the Mercosur countries of latin America.
    Let us not confuse judaism with zionism. The inhuman actions of zionists are really war crimes and the zionist entity is doomed to destruction sooner or later, preferably sooner.

    engrich Reply:

    China is doing very well , so is India and Russia, not frgetting the Mercosur countries of latin America.

    capitalistism broke their family.chinese youths are after materialism.islms has everything including egalitarianism.we have to follow the example of our khulfairashdeen.from istambout to jakarta via dubai people are more happy.

    LIVING IN A NON MUSLIM COUNTRY, i MEAN THE WEST IN PARTICULAR, YOU ARE LIVING
    LIKE A SLAVE BOUND WITH THE CHAINS OF MAN MADE LAWS!! NOT ONLY THAT YOU LACK
    FAITH IN THE DIVINE BUT YOU ARE ALSO DEVOID OF SPIRITUALITY

    bobby Reply:

    A fool can be taught. But a fool who considers himself knowledgeable cannot be made to understand

    engrich Reply:

    during vedic period education was denied to 99%of indians.now u people are mentally programmed and brainwashed cannot see truth happening aroud u.like parrots sing the same song in same tune and pitch.

    ENGRICH Reply:

    SOHAIL, Watch how the Arab leadership is moving their position towards the palestinian
    leadership of Hamas as well as towards Israel, who for the first time is being
    called a terrorist state by the Turkish Prime Minister. It is strange that any
    human can remain passive given the situation that the occupying power is
    targetting infants, little children and entire families in Gaza who are denie
    access to the outer world neither from land nor from sea, whose crime is simply
    that they were born like their forefathers in the land where olives and oranges
    grow

    Sohail Reply:

    The turkish prime minister is a buffoon wiping US shoes in the hope of getting his little sultanate going. It will not happen. Keep on dreaming !

    Sohail Reply:

    All religion is man made belief systems including islam based on Judaic mumbo jumbo. Wake up, your islamic dream is really a nightmare.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Engrich Ram Autar,

    keep your jihadi non-sense for your private discussion with fellow jihadi, fake Ravi. You can exchange notes while hugging each other. Leave the rest of us for some sensible exchange of views. Sharia is not the topic of discussion here.

    engrich Reply:

    Muslims do not want respect for their religion from infidels but simple
    recognition and reject any disrespect or denegration of their Prophet and Quraan
    either from you or any other soul

    Anonymous Reply:

    What about the Saudi price killing the homosexual partner

    Or the Saudi princess beheaded for having an affair.

    Proudly Sharia. Proudly your values.

    engrich Reply:

    by and large saudia is crime free country.

    cactus khan Reply:

    well said

    cactus khan Reply:

    now im sure ur not a muslim. but only using a name to spread bullshit like urself.

    get a life man. go do something fruitful. if not for the humanity and mother nature. but at least for ur own self.

    u freakin moron. micheal h hart and bernard shaw. the christian by name and dogmas. are better then u.
    they understand islam and its principles better then you. who is ashamed of himself. and for being what he is.

    to be more specific. if u suck d**ks, this will be a better thing to do wid ur mouth compared to what u r doing here.

    sidias Reply:

    That statement of your’s clearly puts you outside the pale of Islam. like the Hangman is waiting for musharraf, hellman at the gates of hell will be waiting for you.

    Ravi Reply:

    Mahesh_Mumbaikar•7 minutes ago

    Ravi, Mohan and Parvez,
    Fellas, wonderful debate. Sincerely appreciated the tone and tenor of debate.

    p.s. for Pankaj, Ashish, Mohan, Ravi et al (those discussing Bal Thackeray) : Will post sometime later on the topic. Currently, neck deep in work.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Why Ravi is addressing to Ravi ? Kaun ho bhai aap ? Mahesh ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi has copy pasted my original comment from earlier blog.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I got confused. Thanks.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    Aap ke shahar Mumbai mein hoon, Bhai mere. Why don’t we meet ? Call me on 9987597667 or send me an email on
    melody_ enterprises@hotmail.com

    Anonymous Reply:

    We know your kind of work. Jihad is not work, it is a mission.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sardarji,
    Thoda padh toh liya karo ji ke bande kya likhtey hai.
    Kaahe hawaa ko laath maar rahe ho !!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ” Now to call butcher of Kargil Mushy to India and give him daaru proves that India is spineless”

    Balwinderji,
    Ab kya karein, hamari aadat hi aise hai ki ham dusmanon ke bhi mehman nawazi karte hain.

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    cactus khan Reply:

    and indians are butcher too.
    at least x general fought wid soldiers.

    while bsf and indian army fights with unarmed civilians in kashmir.
    they turned peaceful tamil farmers into guerrilla fighters.
    they turned sikhs against them.
    aasam
    many entities r suffering by them

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  • engrich

    vinodjee ,countries keep army,while in case of pakistan,army keep a country.everything is possible.their leaders are choosen in white house.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And white house leaders are chosen in Riyadh.

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  • Sohail

    Musharraf is suffering from a (highly) exaggerated sense of self importance. A nobody, he is destined to live a banished existence for the rest of his miserable life. As for solving the problems of pakistan, well the country is a miscreation and even Allah cannot resolve its problems. It deserves a coup de grace to put its unfortunate people out of their misery.

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    KS Reply:

    Very accurately analyzed and a nice post indeed! Please keep it up. The dictator is a phony guy and his days are long over. He hated India very much and still does and he also killed so many of our Indian soldiers and innocent people. The very same Indian politicians are still active or in power when he was the dictator of his bankrupt country. The dictator Parvez is gone and hiding in a rat hole in a foreign country but his counterpart Indians are still in active politics and doing very well. Dictator deserved a Nobel prize!

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    cactus khan Reply:

    explicitly bullshit bout miscreation nd solving the problems of pakistan.
    only thing which u r right about is busharraf’s suffering
    amma yaar aqal nahi tamiz nahi tu mon kholnay ko kon bol raha hai tumhay ??
    ALLAH ko bohot si problems bulkay sari hi problems nazer ati hai woh janta hai aur woh un ko theek bhi kar sakta hai without a sweat.
    but he wont. bcoz he created humans with aqal e saleem to solver their problems themselves,

    aur ager woh har problem ko theek karnay lagay. then u will be one of them.

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  • Mo

    Musharraf Sahib, hangman is waiting for you. You are not known to be that naive to return to terror infested Pakistan. You did a pretty good job of promoting terrorism and protecting Osama. Now it is you turn to reap what you sowed.

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  • Ramesh Kumar

    VINOD JI ,IT IS GOOD YOU ARE USING YOUR SO CALLED ANALYTICAL ABILITIES WHILE EVALUATING GEN MUSHARRAF.
    WHY DONOT YOU USE THESE FACULTIES ABOUT OUR NOMINATED PM SHRI MMS.IAM SURE THAT IS NOT TABOO FOR YOU.
    WE EXPECT MORE MEANINGFUL EVALUATION OF NATIONAL EVENTS RATHER THAN EX.GENERAL.

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  • Abdur

    No one can stop Musharraf from returning to his own country. He will return at his own chosen time. He will come back and lead Pakistan once again. His enemies can keep on daydreaming.

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  • Naeem

    If and When Musharraf lands in Pakistan, he will be greeted with sticks and stones because eggs and tomatoes are too expensive in Pakistan to waste on this dictator.

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  • Anonymous

    Guys, watch this video, it is about 50 minutes little long about Pakistan.

    Very interesting.

    http://youtu.be/-5enBQxdagM

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  • Anonymous

    Balwinder is right. We are being too kind to Musharaff. He was the guy who did the kargil backstabbing. He was the guy who prevented Nawaz from builidng up good relations with India.

    I guess the trouble is that there is nobody in Pakistan who can be called a liberal.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A little curious – did nothing ever happen between India and Pakistan post Nawaz days ?
    p.s. : Hint , Hint – Vajpayeeji and all that.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    SUre ! Musharraff came ot Agra and wanted us to declare Kashmir as disputed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hasn’t changed Kashmir’s status single bit, though.
    Again, did history stop at Agra visit ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    My contention is that we cannot deal witha tricky guy like Musharraf. US pumped him flush with money. He spent part of it in feeding OSama

    Anonymous Reply:

    Indian government is not dealing with him.
    About him feeding Osama…. This may be a bit strenuous. .

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    at times you pretend to be a little too gullible.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh, you are right.

    A lot happened post Nawaz days. 26/11 for example.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Correct – both with and without Musharraf.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    Musharraf is a much honoured and sought after guest in the NDTV studios. He is a darling of the Barkhas, Nidhis and who-you-have.

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  • Anonymous

    Some of the Congress leaders had called Modi a monkey and a mouse.

    This is the response from Modi.

    Modi said: “A Congress leader called me a
    monkey. I accept his certificate and want to remind him of the Ramayana where
    monkeys led by Hanuman destroyed Ravana’s Lanka. If that is the case, yes I
    am and a monkey. Another Congress leader called me a mouse. I am proud to
    be a mouse for he is the carrier of Ganpati and it will be my privilege to have
    Ganpati riding on my back.”

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  • AshokChauhan

    30,000 surrender 2nd gas connection in a week

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/30000-surrender-2nd-gas-connection-in-a-week/articleshow/17286986.cms

    *********
    UID on roll !
    Saving in this week only : 30000 x 500 = 1,50,00,000 x 18 = Rs. 27,00,00,000 pa to the Govt. from Indane only from duplicate subsidy !
    ********
    They have so far identified 2.35 crore connections with same address and different names. Some 15 lakh connections have been identified with the same name and same address.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This should easily rank with 2G scam. Kay kehte hain aap, Pathakji?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This reminds me of our old blogger friend from London Dr Shan. He always use to say that proper computerization of the systems will bring down the level of corruption in our country. Good news.

    p.s. Saving of Rs 2250 crores p.a.? I am sure our honest politicians will be very happy as they will have extra money in coffers to loot.

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    AshokChauhan Reply:

    The effort started in eighties.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Effort of what? Looting or UID?

    AshokChauhan Reply:

    Computerisation.
    UID since 2009.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Oh yes now I get it. Bhai mere, you can praise Rajeev Gandhi openly . Sharmane ki koi baat nahin hai.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Amen.

    vijay ! Reply:

    The Ad makers of Idea teleco of Aditya Birla always claimed that UID was a copy of their ad campaign of each person having a numerical number.

    Is it true?

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    AshokChauhan Reply:

    Did anybody tell you the IDEA brand is a copy of an European brand ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashok,
    A little curious – has anybody analysed the impact of this policy on inflation ?

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  • Anonymous

    If Shrimaan Vinod Sharma has such a poor view of Pervez Musharraf , and believes that he does not have much of a role left in Pakistan , why did he not place his views before the Organizers of the HT Leadership Summit . After all he is their resident expert on Pakistan . They could have invited someone more relevant .

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Only two people really call the shots in pakistan.,

    Kiyani and Chacha hafeez.

    They would not have been good show pieces for HT!

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  • Anonymous

    HT Summit: How To Sell Leadership & Make Money

    http://www.mediacrooks.com/2012/11/ht-summit-how-to-sell-leadership-make.html

    Nice interesting article on HT summit.

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  • vijay !

    @ Vinod Sharma

    When the youth of India lust for a date with Mallika Sherawat and Sonakshi Sinha… why are the journos of India ( HT, NDTV, Aroon Purie etc) Obsessed with a date with a failed Coup leader– Musharraf?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Oh Boss!! So SOnakshi adorns ur dil too? :)

    Yes I agree calling Musharaff over is pretty sad, but then it did seem that HT was looking for some big name. They got the second liners this time.

    As for Pakistan… despite all his faults, Zardari seems a better bet. At least he is not openly hostile or has not increased the terror training after 26/11/.

    We need to live with the idea that we have a bad neighbor which is going to become more regressive and aggressive once the Americans walk out of Afghanistan. Frankly a dead defeated Pakistan would make India more attractive to some of our mislead Kashmiri brethren,

    India does not have a stable Pakistan policy and only reacts to what our mad neighbour dishes out to us. We also have this mistaken attitude somewhere that peace at all costs with Pakistan will help a political party win points with the Muslims of India. Again a fallacy.

    Frankly let us not open doors where clerics of Pakistan make our Indian Muslims feel as if they are not doing their bit for global jehad.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, Zardari is a safe bet. He keeps his dick under control, unlike Geelani………

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    with reference to the lively debate on Sharia between Ravi and parvez,
    I read in today’s papers that–Sharia4Pakistan, UK based party(so called educated people) is declaring Fatwa against Malala. Wow. So all the advocates of Sharia, take note, that where ever and whenever these Neanderthals feel that they can impoose their will because of sheer numbers, they will try to do it. So be aware about this in India at least.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    I never have any doubts that all these people who advocate Sharia really have any concern for Female rights.

    For them the world has not evolved beyond the 7th century. Having said that I would also tell these guys, understand the spirit in which Islam was born and not just the literal words. So if the Koran tames a wild, warring tribe of the 7th centruy, they should think of laws which tame the beast in a man in the 21 st century.

    These laws can only be of gender parity, female education the right to question, the right to appreciate the finer points of other religions and learn from them.

    My father despite being a noted surgeon had to be doubly careful while treating female patients in Saudi Arabia, lest he be accused of violation of Sharia ! Some of those guys at the ripe age of 70 would come to Hyderabad to “marry” eleven year old girls. And call it okay as per Sharia!

    It is a funny world!

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Parvez;
    I had been saying exactly same thing in my old posts. Quran/ sharia might have been Ok for those times, whence there were no laws and every person was for himself and herself. Might was right. At that time, Quran might have been a solution , not now.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji, Parvez,

    both of you are right. The spirit of Sharia is lost in the desert sands and we have this fake Ravi and engrich comparing Sharia with khap! This is weirdest!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well i would say this about most religious books I have read., They dont actually tally with the physical reality of the world.

    The miracles of the Bible or the miracles in ramayan can also be questioned.

    What I am implying is understand the spirit of religion. And then try to be a liberal human being….

    Anonymous Reply:

    ” What I am implying is understand the spirit of religion. And then try to be a liberal human being….”

    Beautiful.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Parvez;
    Exactly. As we can not accept Pushpak Viman, Jatayu, floating stones, when name of Ram was superscribed and so many other instances, we can not accept that mythical horse, which took prophet to 7 heaven from Dome of Rock and came back. The difference here, between hindu religious text and Abrahamic faith, including Muslims, that they are being taken literally and it being insisted that every word is directly from God and can not be altered and then, followers should implement each and every word in their daily living including all laws. This has neither been implied or forced with hindu religion. I say, Ramayan is more like a story of that time with lots of heroes of different shapes, and peole had been exhorted to emulate them. That was the end. Nbody was punished and asked to do Agni pariksha, if some one’s wife was suspected of infidelity, etc, etc.

    SHENOYBV Reply:

    We can not accept Pushpak Viman, but we can accept Concord; we can’t accept Marich’s ( Ravan’s brother) maya, but we can accept Modi’s holographic images addressing election rally at 4 places simultaneously.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shenoy sahab.
    Haath kangan ko Aarsi kya, aur padhe, likhe ko Pharsi kya?
    yes, what is being shown infront of you, validated many times, you believe. That is science and not literature. Though good literature tries to borrow from real life too.

    Anonymous Reply:

    :) :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr Pankaj,

    Since the dynamics of thinking have changed so much that we are beginning to question the existence of religion in modern era, don’t u believe absence of religion too is not well state of being. Any views!

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Dear Usman;
    Good to have you back after a long time.
    You are under wrong impression, if you think that I am against religion. NO, in capital letters. If you care to look at religious texts of all religions, all. You will find so many good things, that you will be surprised. These exalted works had and continue to have mesmarizing effects on people. They give you strength, when you need it, they give you guidance, when you need it( but not the practice of -Faal or its hindu counterpart- ) and in a broad sense, tell you what is good and what is not good. Trouble starts, when, people start taking them in a literal sense, like sharia, or like abortion in catholism or like bali in hindu religion and so many other instances in all religions. People, practicing them should explore their religions for the hidden gems and not blindly follow every letter, word, stanza or comma/dot.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Very wisely put. In total agreement with you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Usman

    Welcome back!

  • Anonymous

    There are rare occasions when the lawyers meet their match:

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  • Anonymous

    Just a thought. Why we need religion to believe in God? Why we need religion
    to know what is good/right and bad/wrong? Why only Hindus should have claim on Rama and Krishna, why only Muslims should have claim on Prophet Mohmmad and Allah, why should only Sikhs have claim on Guru Nanak and Guru Granth Saheb and why can’t same be said for all the great people/prophets, like Moses, Budha, Mahavira who have graced this earth. Why can’t all these great belong to one religion or better belong to no religion?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Beautiful ! It is one world we all live i. A Muslim’s Earth cannot be different from a Hindu Earth or a Christian earth. Five different Gods did not make five different Earths

    So eventually only the explanations are different, but the world is still one.

    To say that my explanation of the existence of the planet is better and kill for it is stupid.

    In the end all religious explanatations for the existence of planets fail before what scientists are unearthing!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Garv se kaho “hum naastik hai” !

    [ Thank God, Advani is sleeping !!! ]

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well the opposite is being also true. Aastha to all strains of thought including scientists who dont believe in conventional God.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Pathak G;
    Yeh ladka hoshiar to pahale bhi tha, ab bolne bhi laga hai> Aap ki ab khair….Ha Ha.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Batooni Sardarni’s jaddo

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please give credit to the young man.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I did.

    You didn’t notice.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What I understand from your comment is that you are
    giving credit to his girl friend.

    Anonymous Reply:

    To him for finding such a lovely and inspiring girl friend.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, finding a girl friend is also an art which I could never learn
    or may be it is a natural gift which I never had.

    Anonymous Reply:

    A woman takes pride doing everything and managing her man.

    The man takes pride in finding the woman in the very first place.

    That’s why a man mostly smile when he is told that his life being managed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I did not reject the concept of God, it is the idea of religions which is bothering me.
    -
    I am not able to figure out whether you hate Advani or love him.
    However, one thing is sure that this Sindhi bhai is always on your mind or may be in your heart.

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    AshishC Reply:

    Seconded with pride :D

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Very silly of you, Pathakji.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You may add Mohan and Ashish’s name to it as well.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Just to needle you in lunch time, is your love for Advani linked to some IT contract promised and not delivered during his tenure?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Love for Advani goes long way back, beyond NDA.

    Other things are not discussed in public, even if it is about NDA.

  • Anonymous

    HAPPY DIWALI JI to all, belated- am very busy with the factory so come here less. See some new faces- ASHOK CHAUHAN brilliant comment about the gas cylinders.
    Balwinder paaji you still have the habit of homing in on the most uncomfortable subjects- to call Parvez Mush to India like a laadsaab is a kick in the teeth of our Kargil fallen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bloody hell, does make the blood boil. MAHESH dont know why you attack individuals rather than ideas- you must be the vacuous chatterati who would eat caviar with the Mush !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    glad that vinoo and mohan dont think so. and PARVEZ bro you rock man, followed yr fight with RAVI THE LOUSE on sharia. Sure man lets go back to manusmriti and sharia, why go to the moon.
    big hello to Shenoy viju and all- would love to slam Thakeray but dont want the Polcy at my door
    cheerio…………………………………………………………..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx bro! U r logging in just when I am logging off to get serious about an assignment which needs to be put on my bloody professors desk at 9.30 tomoro!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Parvez
    Do well. Also, do visit here once a while

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rizwan, nice to see you here.

    How is Mrs Sharma and her daughter?

    You are doing a great “seva”. Employment to many; and products for a growing country. Keep it up! .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rizwan,

    welcome back young brother. I am also happy Parvez and Gopi too have returned as has Balwinder Paaji, just when Mohan Bhai was thinking of leaving, dejected by fake Ravi’s insistence in comparing khap with Sharia.

    Now, if only Dr.Anand, Dr.Mishra, Ashish and Ishwar return!

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  • Anonymous

    AJMAL KASAB HANGED.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    great news!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There will be unemployment in Mumbai for about 50 people.
    I have received an SMS that the security men will now protect one of the most endangered politician in Delhi.

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  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    The first job Balasaab Thakrey did after he died was that he ordered Yamraj to
    bring Kasab to join him. Wah Balasaab aapka hukum wahan bhi mana jata hai.

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    vin0059 Reply:

    khoob guzree ge mil baithen ge jab deewane do

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  • engrich

    kasab is hanged to hide something.while investigation is still going on in pak courts we should have waited.

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  • Anonymous

    kasab is hanged, the whole country is surprised.
    It took so long, nobody is in the least surprised.
    when is it going to be Afzal Guru, the most despised?
    The govt. has no answer, and nobody is surprised.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You never had a discerning eye.

    It’s not a surprise that kasab was hanged.

    The real surprise : Shinde managed to keep his mouth shut.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    His service in the police department must have come to his aid.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Saab
    Breaking News is coming in that Digvijay Singh has said that now Afzal Guru’s case should also be closed. Surprise.. Surprise.
    But I am seeing a subtle shift in the Conggress Party’s political strategy . In Assam allegations are being made against Gogoi that he is being partial to Bodos and not doing enough to protect the Bangladeshi infiltrators. In Hyderabad Owaisi has called Congress a stooge of the Sangh for not stopping the construction of the Temple. So is the Congress Part moving away from its vote-bank politics… also called “Muscular Secularism ” ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hanging Kasab does not stop the cross border terrorism. Who sent him here? All of them are walking free on the streets of Karachi, and Islamabad,a nd in the army barrarcks of Rawalpindi.

    In fact, we should not have hung him in yerwada prison. The apostle of non violence, our nation’s father, Mahathmaji spent so many years there; during one stay he signed the famous Poona agreement of 1932.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    this government, if anything, is very clever. They knew this situation would come up. Which is why they have said “The Mahatma is no more the father of the nation”.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That prison other than one in nagpur has hanging facility. Pune is closer to mumbai.

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  • Anonymous

    Ashok,
    Your post on duplicate LPG cylinders…..
    A little curious – has anybody analysed the impact of this policy on inflation ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Isn’t it little early to analyse ? However, the simple economy which I understand is that this should have a negative impact on inflation.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks for pointing out – post edited.
    That said, why would this have a negative impact ? Trying to understand the reasoning…..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Because of these duplicate and triplicate connections most of

    the houses were getting gas at subsidized rates. Now after

    the cancellations of their extra connections all will have to buy

    gas at the market rates after utilizing their subsidized quota.

    They will have less money to spend and that IMO will have

    negative impact on inflation. I don’t know how government

    is going to using this money which will be saved – It is going

    to be a huge number – . If they come up with some inflationary

    scheme like NREGA, or waiving of some loans of thousands of crores than the effect will be evened off.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    Just curious. Are you still neck deep in your work ? I hope your vital
    organs are intact. :) :) . Still waiting for your views on Shiv Sena and
    Balasaab.

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  • Anonymous

    Mahadevan

    I am with Oswis on this Golconda/temple issue. There was no temple butting to the fort 30 years ago. Temple should be relocated, and cannot impact a heritage site. (yesterady’s Hindu gave the photo from 30 years ago and now)ictur

    In fact, I am upset that the Hyderabad people did not arise against this in unison, and rather let it as a Oswis issue to fight for the heritage site.

    Golconda is an Indian heritage site; the stopgap temple that came up in the last 30 years is not.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    I read that article where a 60 years old photograph of Charminar shows

    that there was no temple at that place. This tactic is used by land grabbing
    Mafia to grab government land. This temple should be removed.
    However, this gentleman Owaisi is being selective about this particular
    case, the same article also says that his party had resisted the removal
    of unauthorized construction at another heritage site.

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  • Anonymous

    Good things happen once awhile.

    Magsaysay award winner kulandei Francis’ successful NGO project – Integrated Village development project in Krishnagiri, Tamil Nadu

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/micromanaging-the-odds/article4116409.ece

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Great inspiring story.

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  • Anonymous

    Good things happen once awhile.

    Magsaysay award winner kulandei Francis’ successful NGO project – Integrated Village development project in Krishnagiri, Tamil Nadu

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/micromanaging-the-odds/article4116409.ece

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  • Anonymous

    Afzal Guru: A case of better never than late?

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  • Anonymous

    God seems to be planning of making a blockbuster this year ..
    he’s been gathering the best with Him..

    Cast : Dev Anand, Rajesh khanna , Shammi Kappor, Dara singh,

    Director : Yash Chopra

    Singer : Jagjit singh,

    Comedian : Jaspal Bhatti

    Godfather : Balasaheb Thackeray

    Producer & Financer : Ponty Chadha

    And Villian : Kasab

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Slight MisCasting :

    Main Villian : Thackeray
    Side Kick : Kasab

    Kasab is too dumb a villian to be worthy of your heroes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have given him the role of God father. What do you think God father is?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In hindi films, the villian is the ultimate.

  • Anonymous

    Frankly like it or not, Kasab’s hanging has been done solely because 26/11 happened in Mumbai and in front of the TV Cameras.

    –> The old conspiracy theorists who try to find an RSS link had swung into action after 26/11. Arundhati had written rotten articles in British press making light of the tragedy and linking it India’s own faults,

    –> Congressman Digvijay Singh had backed jounralist Burney’s attempt to call it a RSS ki Saazish.

    –> COngress man and Congress fund collector, A R Antulay had tried to link it HIndus

    –> Congressman Rahul had tried to make light of LeT and call HIndutva a bigger threat.

    –> Ambarish Mishra and Co claimed they were physically present and saw Mossad and RSS and RAW were behind it.

    In the end because of TV cameras at the site of 26/11, these trolls could not make Kasab into an Afzal Guru.

    Sad that it may sound– The presence of Bal Thakrey in Mumbai ensured that
    Congress did not see a vote bank in saving Kasab’s life… as they see in saving Afzal Guru’s life.

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    engrich Reply:

    rs ago

    Frankly like it or not, Kasab’s hanging has been done solely because 26/11 happened in Mumbai and in front of the TV Cameras

    he is hanged to hide many facts.only yesterday india voted for abolition of capital punishment.why no enquiry commission why no local arrest.he was a gunmen not terrorist.sacred brhmns of india was part of conspiracy to finish karkare.jihadis were firing at buqa clad women(mostly).

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    Anonymous Reply:

    SO you are sure that it was a HIndu + RSS conspiracy and Pakistan, LeT etc were innocent. Digvijay, Rahul and ANtulay also believed this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    this engrich Ram Autar is the worst kind of desh drohi. Not worth engaging him in debate. Mahesh is a thousand times better person to engage in discussion.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes Mr Vinoo is probably new here and does not understand Engrich’s game. The point is that Engrich’s of India want to create conspiracy theories to keep Muslims separate and under their foot.

    engrich Reply:

    i want awnser.you people dont have any so write bullshit.running away from discussion is your habit.yesterday india voted in un for abolition of capital punishment.what was hurry,u people are endangering life of sarabjeet.he was caught much before for same act.

    engrich Reply:

    HENOYBV vinoo59 • 4 hours ago

    Vinoo,

    this engrich Ram Autar is the worst kind of desh drohi. Not worth engaging him in debate

    i dont need ur certificate.i know what i am.u are the supporter
    of infant burner .rss is gang of murders,homosexuals ,hawala dealers scamoperatorsand financial thieves.

    engrich Reply:

    yes

    engrich Reply:

    i am not sure about let.india is in grip of fascism.

    engrich Reply:

    Congressman Digvijay Singh had backed jounralist Burney’s attempt to call it a RSS ki Saazish

    rss wad involve no doubt.who killed terrorists .who mutiliated the faces of victims and gouged their eyes.babies are cut into pieces and women were raped before being killed,these are speciality of rss.they show this speciality in every communal riot.gunmen could not do so many work at a time.sim for their telephones were provided by them.why nobody came to rescue of karkare.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Did you get this insight from the COngress office or was it your own deduction. Certainly very brilliant and full of intelligence I must say.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Engrich Ram Autar,
    gouging of eyes was done by Pakistani soldiers in Kargil to Indian soldiers.

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    engrich Reply:

    in kargil may be.but here rss let and cia were playing their game behind pakistani gunmen.tell me,
    1.why ak-47 was taken from karkare and party and inferior arms were given to them when terrorist attack was imminent.
    2.why there was no enquiry comission was established to know the truth.
    3.such henious crime cannot happen without local help.why there is no local arrest.
    4.whomutiliated the faces of gunmen to hide their identity.

    i know u cannot awnser these question,so will say better to run away or throw abuses.
    post babri riot in mumbai 1400 muslims were killed by police and goons of rss/shvsena tell me how many are punished.

  • pankaj#1

    Thanks to Mohan, went to the you tube and listened , by chance, one Hassan Nisar. The guy speaks in baritone, has good knowledge and the way he reduced Hamid Zaid as a caricature, was fascinating.
    Not long back, people like Zaid, I believe, a group of 3-4 anchors, were darlings of media, for their TRP value and pakistani masses, adopted these charlatans, as academicians full of knowledge.
    Previously, these guys were opposed by mild mannered Najam Sethi and some other people but Nisar, despite of being a Punjabi, gave Zaid , such a tongue lashing that Zaid was merely mumbling incoherently.
    long live Nisar’s tribe.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mind numbing. Now how would people do a forensic on you !

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Pathak G;
    Truth is truth. It can withstand any forensic from anybody. Including….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have heard Hassan Nissar. This gentleman living in Pakistan has
    guts to call spade a spade.

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    engrich Reply:

    he is an idiot.he ran away from america after living 17 years.he is one sided extrmist,an idiot.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Very nice to hear that you finally found an extremist in Paksitan. And that too a liberal.

  • Anonymous

    How was it watched?

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  • Anonymous

    Bikhari: Daadi roti dijiye khane ke liye.!

    Daadi : Abhi taiyaar nahi hai,Baad me aana.!
    Bhikhari : Ye mera cell number hai Taiyaar hote hi miss call de dena.!

    Bhikhari rocks Daadi shocked..!

    Daadi : Are number kya lena, Thodi der ke baad jab chapati ban jaegi to Facebook par upload kar dungi..

    Now Daadi rocks and bhikhari shocked..!

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  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————-

    ~~ AAJ KI DAROO ~~ KASAB KI MAUT KE NAAM~~ chacha hafeez still alive !~~

    —————————————————————————————————-

    I was off alcohol for 30 days to please a close friend…and to test myslef, U know what “close” friends twist you into! So like a panting dog I was looking on to 25th Nov.

    But…

    but…

    Today we are breaking the vow, including my friend!! Kasab’s rooh flying into jahunaam is so poetically inspiring!!

    On a personal level I have escaped from a very very close call in a bomb attack on a Delhi market. the perpetuator Abdul Tunda of Huji — as the Police has identified — still moves from Jail to freedom.

    So Kasab i Jahunam is a good thing to raise the glass to.

    But …
    we need to remember, Afzal Guru, Lakhvi, Chacha Hafeez all survive and thrive…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    and deshdrohis like engrich and fake Ravi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Drink one extra peg on my behalf.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    call me over for the daru adn beer session!! My yamaha can cover any distance in Delhi from Univ in 40 minutes.

    II will raise my glass and fill your glass too!!!!!!!!!

    Let us call Engrich too. Let us pick him and throw him into the lavatory and keep flushing till he finally says….

    hang Chacha hafeez..! HANG aFZAL !! Hang Lakhvi !!!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Leave this old man Engrich/Tajender alone, he is a misguided person and he actually believes in whatever he writes. Whatever
    we all say to him is not going to change his opinion.
    At the moment he is in Dubai and I tried to meet him, gave him my
    email address on another website but he never responded.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well Allah will be happy if I manage to make him a better human being. The problem is it is people like Engrich who are the real danger to India.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think his age is somewhere between 60-75 and I don’t really believe that at this age anybody’s opinion can be changed completely. Allah will always be happy with a nice person like
    you.

    engrich Reply:

    Let us call Engrich too. Let us pick him and throw him into the lavatory and keep flushing till he finally says..

    son of a ***** i told u not to take my name from ur dirty tongue.i am old to fk ur mother bstrd drinker.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Very bad language! You are lowering your standards of the blog. I think you should keep telling your fiction stories on how RAW and RSS is behind 26/11 rather than give gaalis.

    Pervez is a good boy. You should learn good behaviour from him and learn from his free mind.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think you are not only a wasted Jehadi but a foul mothed one at that. I wont abuse your sister or daughter, but only advice them to stay away from you and spit on your face for your thoughts and language.

  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Read an article by Vikram sood, regarding, Musharraf’s exhortations, ” India should do more, as it is bigger country”.
    I tthink, India had already done too much, when in ‘47, it allowed tribals and pakistani soldiers to occupy large chunk of Kashmir. Returning 93000 soldiers in 71 war, Allowing free play in Nepal and Sri lanka, giving free hand to treat their minorities inhumanly, treating Hurriyat with kidgloves and and and…
    what else he wants? Lal kile ki chaabi?? Musharraf wants India to withdraw troops from siachen, before pakistanis withdraw and leave the field for China and pakistan. Kabza group mentality of Musharraf and his ilk is well known.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    India should do nothing for Pakistan. Period

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    Anonymous Reply:

    AGREE. You should see the expose here on Pakistan — even today, there was an interview with a senior Afghanistan diplomat ; he was talking about the double games Pakistanis play with them

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes Binoy

    It is the most duplicitous state in the list of 200 UN countries.

    On can be fairly sure Pakistanis even fool themselves on everything. Strange that outside Pakistan they can be affable and nice. But this is one tinder box which can blow up our planet.

    engrich Reply:

    PANKAJ SEE THE END OF ISREAL.signed the ceasefire agreement with hamas whom they always called terrorist.now they have to vacate est bank as well.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Where I should see?

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    engrich Reply:

    on the papers.this is the begining of end of isreal.unless they correct themselves.better to be friendly with neighbour is a better and safe policy.

    Anonymous Reply:

    In the papers, the Hamas are running helter skelter. Their losses are enormous. Israel chooses its time t play with the Hama mouse.

  • Anonymous

    भारतीय सरकार ने अजमल कसाब की फाँसी की खबर को अत्यंत गोपनीय रखा और किसी भी न्यूज़ चैनल को इसकी भनक तक नहीं लगी, परंतु निंदिया टीवी (NINDIA TV) चैनल के पत्रकार को किसी तरह इसका पता चल गया और वे उस गाड़ी मे पहुँच गये जिससे कसाब को पुणे जेल ले जाया जा रहा था. तत्पश्चात उन्होने कसाब से कुछ सवाल पूछे. आगे पढ़िए कसाब का साक्षात्कार:

    पत्रकार ने कसाब से उसकी एक रंगीन तस्वीर भी मांगी, पर कसाब वो दे न सका और फांसी पे लटक गया

    पत्रकार: तो कसाब जी कैसा महसूस कर रहे हैं आप?

    कसाब: जी बहुत अच्छा लग रहा है, आप भी कभी जाइए अपनी फाँसी पर. अच्छा लगेगा!

    पत्रकार: क्या आप पहले भी कभी फाँसी पे लटके हैं?

    कसाब: जी नहीं, Debut Match है.

    पत्रकार: अच्छा ये बताइए कि क्या चाहते हैं आप अभी?

    कसाब: जी चाहता तो ये हूँ की मेरी जगह आप लटक जाओ!

    पत्रकार: वो तो नहीं हो सकता लेकिन आप हमें ये बताएँ की जेल मे आप को कोई तकलीफ़ तो नहीं थी?

    कसाब: जी बिल्कुल नहीं, जेल अच्छी जगह है. आपको भी वहीं चले जाना चाहिए.

    पत्रकार: लेकिन वहाँ खाना कैसा मिलता है, सुना है आपको बिरयानी मिलती थी वहाँ?

    कसाब: बिरयानी तो तब होती थी जब वो रसोईघर से चलती थी, मेरे पास आते आते तो खाली चावल बचते थे, चिकन-मटन जो होता था, पहले ही निकल जाता था

    पत्रकार: सुनने मे आया है की आपको डेंगू भी हुआ था, वो कैसे हुआ?

    कसाब: सुना तो ये है कि मच्छर के काटने से होता है, बाकी आप ज़्यादा समझदार हैं.

    पत्रकार: क्या आपकी माँ से आपकी कोई बात हुई, कैसा महसूस कर रही थी वो आपकी फाँसी की खबर सुन कर?

    कसाब: जी बात तो नहीं हो पाई पर यकीन जानिए खुशी से कूद नहीं पड़ी होंगी.

    पत्रकार: क्या आपने अपनी वसीयत लिखी है?

    कसाब: जी हाँ, एक फाँसी आपके नाम पर लिख छोड़ी है, मेरे जाने के बाद claim कर लीजिएगा.

    पत्रकार: क्या आपको अभी डर लग रहा है?

    कसाब: जी पहले तो नहीं लेकिन अब आपके सवालों से ज़रूर डर लग रहा है!

    पत्रकार: क्या आपको अपनी करनी पर कोई पछतावा हो रहा है?

    कसाब: जी कसम से, अगर पता होता की एक दिन ऐसे सवालों का जवाब देना पड़ेगा तो कभी कोई ग़लत काम ना करता.

    पत्रकार: क्या आप हमारे दर्शकों को कोई संदेश देना चाहेंगे?

    कसाब: जी यही संदेश है कि आपका चैनल ना देखा करें

    (इसके बाद सुरक्षा बलों ने पत्रकार साहब को आख़िरकार वाहन से बाहर निकाला और साक्षात्कार वहीं समाप्त हुआ)

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  • Anonymous

    Tina Rosenberg, NY Times, on the use of tiny land holdings, and upliftment of villagers in West Bengal

    http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/21/what-a-little-land-can-do/?hp

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good article.

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  • Anonymous

    Brian siebert, NY times art critic on Malavika Sarukki’s dance at Barshnykov Center in Manhattan..

    We all should be proud of our artists (may be they make up for the lousy politicians)

    amazing how people like Brian can analyze movements and moods

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/19/arts/dance/malavika-sarukkai-at-the-baryshnikov-arts-center.html

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  • Anonymous

    GENERATION GAP I am always amazed as to why engrich and ravi snarl so badly at Parvez and Riswan. Answer, their fundumantlism clashes badly with modern muslim youths exuberance.
    As mohun said engrich was actually invited by Mohan on PTH and refused offer. Why, does he have long flowing beard and no teeth.
    hehe

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    engrich Reply:

    Let us call Engrich too. Let us pick him and throw him into the lavatory and keep flushing till he finally say

    balwinder tell me what is this.he acts like arab enunch to please u people.no hindu or sikh ever talked with me like this.ur patriotism is to fk india financially and your nationalism is to abuse pakistan and mulims.

    rizwan is thousand time better than this bloody idiot.i tell u at your face balwinder that **** bloggers have more knowledge and tahzeeb than we indians.u are the product of british-rss propaganda.minds of u people are closed.in indian culture dushman ke bhee marne par khushi nahin banate hain.
    u people defend the murderers of gujrat.killer modi is hindu harday samrat.

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    ehgrich Reply:

    balwinder ,u know very well that i am there on pth with id tajender,u also read me daily,so why u are lying.today i have 2 comments there,go and read.here barring few most including u know nothing except afzal guru kasab sharia engrich ravi rahul mms or sonia.

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    engrich Reply:

    by the way manmohan and sonia are best.rightist are evils and leftists are weak.india and indian should be thankful to them.

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  • Anonymous

    The bride kissed her father and placed some thing in his hand. Everyone in the room was wondering what was given to the father by the bride.

    The father could feel the suspense in the air and all eyes were on him to divulge the secret and say something.

    So he announced “Ladies and Gentlemen today is the luckiest day of my life.” Then he raised his hands with what his daughter gave him and continued…..

    “My daughter finally, finally returned my Credit card to me.”

    The whole audience including the priest erupted in laughter………. all except……the poor groom!!.

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  • Anonymous

    MOhan has advised me to let go of Engrich and part of me says, let it be. However deep inside I know that it is bad Muslims like Engrich who have created a Chasm between us Muslims and the rest of the world.

    One can have sympathy on grounds of age, but Kasab was 19 and Hafeez Saeed is probably 60-65. So is there really a ground for leaving them on age grounds?

    Anyway… I have a cricket match after last class now!! C U guys in the night!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Parvez,

    Interacting with him will not get you anywhere. You will only get more angry
    and his views and his manners will never change.

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  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    So will the Congress Party do something about Afzal Guru also… before the Gujarat elections. Shall we see a repeat of Shilanyas politics…when Rajiv Gandhi had launched his election campaign from Ayodhya. Is this their last ditch effort to retrieve some ground in Gujarat ? … could be.
    Some friends asked what was the need to keep the hanging so secret . I think Akhilesh Singh has replied to their query… The UP Govt has banned all victory celeberations and rallies in UP lest they incite communal strife. By one stroke the Samajwadi Party has labelled the Muslims of UP as sympathisers of terrorists…shame on him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think government got it right where this hanging of Kasab is concerned.
    It was right to keep secret otherwise we would have unnecessary discussions on TV where people from all political parties would have there
    useless comments even medai would have contacted some Pakiistanis
    to comment which would have been of not use at all. We might would have had a situation where thousands of people would have gather at
    the jail where he was hanged.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Keeing in mind the present circumstances in the country and the way in which our 24×7 Media behaves and the various voices on this issue … some were there even yesterday… the govt did right be keeping it secret therwise the hanging itself may have got derailed. But my comment was attempting to understand the politics of it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are trying to understand the dynamics of a tornado in quiet morning..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sirjee…many say a tornado is rising…. from Gujarat

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hope the Gujrat tornado takes you high high up.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The one in Gujarat shall rise higher and higher….. but those in Delhi shall sink lower and lower.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Higher the tornado go. harder you fall.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Your neck shall ache ..waiting for it to fall

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Watch your neck when you fall. It’s your neck at stake, not others’.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And it would have been very embarrassing for the TV wallahs to show the Pakistanis tongue-tied.

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    engrich Reply:

    they are not idiot like us.

  • Anonymous

    Shinde has shown that power has gone to his head.

    He has hanged kasab without even informing the Prime Minister, showing thereby that Manmohan Singh doesn’t count anywhere, when matters of national security are concerned.

    AND HE HAS COMMITTED A CARDINAL SIN OF NOT INFORMING SONIA MATAJI AND SEEKING HER BLESSINGS BEFORE HANGING KASAB!!!!!!!!!!

    HOW CAN A SWORN NAUKAR DO THIS TO THE MAALKIN??

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    engrich Reply:

    Thanks to the hush-hush manner in which he was executed on Wednesday shortly after the rejection of his mercy petition, Ajmal Kasab
    had been denied his right to challenge the President’s decision.
    Whatever the justification on security considerations, this deviation
    from the rule of law has opened India to the charges of discriminating
    against the Pakistani national.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    are u really nuts

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Don’t worry. He just quoted the opening paragraph of an article published in TOI.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Welcome to a new world.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy

    Dont be fooled by Shinde’s rhetoric.

    This is a drama to ensure that no LeT threat goes to higher people. All planned.

    Further on this also takes care of erosion of the possibility of vote banks.

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  • vin0059
  • engrich

    As mohun said engrich was actually invited by Mohan on PTH and refused offer. Why, does he have long flowing beard and no teeth…………………………………………
    balwinder ,u know very well that i am there on pth with id tajender,u
    also read me daily,so why u are lying.today i have 2 comments there,go
    and read.here barring few most including u know nothing except afzal
    guru kasab sharia engrich ravi rahul mms or sonia.

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  • Anonymous

    Read the allegations of the injured NSG commando .Are the NSG commandos also all mango people in a banana republic. ? how shameless can a govt and its ministers be.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Do NSG commandos get pension from army or another organisation?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pension always comes from the parent organization.
    But why was the stone pelter counting the Commando”s pension commutation when he gave the figure of 31 lacs. Was the Information Officer of Ministry of Defence on leave that the MOS I&B had to brief on his behalf.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Was the question asked to the Army through the official channel or to the Govt. in front of the TV cameras?

    Anonymous Reply:

    It must be a problem with the treasury office or other local administrative office. The military pension/disability etc disbursement system has been pretty good. However, whatever happened in this case should be investigated/fixed/not repeated.

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  • Anonymous

    BJP wanting to adjourn the parliament in honour of Thackrey is utter nonsense. They wont even get any extra votes – do not understand the logic, unless they have degenerated totally to respect this hateful man who has done so much damage to India.

    Mohan – I was really really surprised how the govt was able to keep Kasabs hanging a secret. Kudos to the concerned.. Shows if there is a will there is a way.. Govt, we know, has done well all these years in running excellent institutions like IIT, IIM, ISI etc..So, with proper focus, they can achieve…I hope thye show this type of gut in deploying people beneficial projects benefiting aam admi

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  • Anonymous

    TJS George on Thackerey — good marks for the man, bad marks for the party and aftermath

    http://newindianexpress.com/opinion/article1343758.ece

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Imran Khan’s party asked to hang Indian convict in pakistani jail in retaaliation to Kasab hanging. Athe people, who had some hope from Imran, how does it feel now? these morons are equating Kasab’s folly with others??
    Most reactionary and not different from Talibans.
    GOI has already been issued threats from other organization JKLF. Wow.
    Do they think that GOI is so weak?? Or this impression has been fostered by Indians themselves by their utterances and selective actions?

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  • Anonymous

    This is for Vinno’s Link which is not there any more. Vinno thought it to be a great article :
    Reduce VIP security and interrogate survivors, please
    http://www.vijayvaani.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?aid=265
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    It hardly has any merit. I am talking about the operational part of the attack.

    1) Before we move on to actual Mumbai operation, the writer should have understood the structure and principles of guerrilla warfare. Then there is another layer called special operation. On the top of it, we have a special layer called suicide mission.To top it all, we have a jihadi mission.

    2) In Nepal, less than 600 maoists created an environment, that made the whole country being sieged by the Maoists. The professional army also could not rightly estimate their size and finally surrendered.

    3) Special operation group is trained to attack the targets with precision and they co-ordinate their action plan matching their watches. Actions happen at different places, but they happen simultaneously. Each pair or buddy is assigned a particular task, and the focuses just on to that.

    For example, even if one group fires at target 1, the other group will not fire or attack people near target 1. This second group would rather focus on to reaching target 2. So while the first group starts firing at target 1, the second would cooly travelling in local transport to reach the target 2. The second group would fire only when it reaches the target 2. This is how the Special Operation Group works. The terrorist group worked accordingly.

    4) The terrorists divided themselves in pair, known as “buddy”. This is standard practice in all commando operations. Based on the same principle of pairing of racing partners. One guy keeps the road engaged, the other handles the map and communication. Though both of them would be trained as back up for each other.

    5) Simultaneous attacks at different places happened due to precise nature of their planning. This helps create chaos and drags the defence down.

    6) Unbelievable damage : The author does not believe 2 men could create havoc in a large hotel. She is wrong. When a simple fire happens, we have chaos. Here we are talking about terrorist attack. Nobody gets to know how many people are there. How many have died. Everybody is scared. Outside help can not enter, because hostages are involved. Damage to property can be achieved through powerful plastics.

    7) Torture of Victims : Professional mercenaries rarely torture people while holding them as hostage, unless they have a specific purpose. But guerillas and jihadis do. They torture viciously every second they spend with people. They not only instill fear, but also take their own pent up anger. One does not need too many people to torture the victims. Simple abuses and a hit of butt would do the trick.
    8) The assumptions of a separate group in hotel to torture the guest has no merit.

    9) The super planners rarely stay in the thick of action. They stayed put in Karachi, away from the action like any normal planner would do.

    10) The attack was success because of the following reasons :

    a) Some method in the ramdomness.

    b) Not worrying about the EXIT

    c) Commitment to the cause

    I know the article was written in 2008. Had I read the article then, I would have written the same. I am consciously avoiding things that I think would unfairly give me the advantage of the hindsight.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Makes all the sense..However, we cannot afford another external or internal attack. Thirt years ago lack of money/resources was an excuse. We now have money; we should have a good defence/security/police…Time to relook at the whole security apparatus; state govts are not equipped to handle terrorism, it should be a central apparatus

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    vin0059 Reply:

    this was not external attack.this was rss attack on our institutions.10 **** gunmen were hired to make story.escape was provided to rss goons while 10 pakis many of them with british passport were ditched.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    So Engrich, you now come under fake names to confuse! Seems you deserve a resounding slap which Parvez gave you!

    vinoo59 Reply:

    you need more of kicks that you have been getting all the time here.

    vin0059 Reply:

    i wish u awnser.u have no awnser so talk of violence.

    vin0059 Reply:

    this is fact read sandhya jain.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “…..Time to relook at the whole security apparatus; state govts are not
    equipped to handle terrorism, it should be a central apparatus…..”

    ========

    Well ! BJP with its federal structure bullshit has killed the initiative by Chidambaram

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    rao Reply:

    But guerillas and jihadis do

    only brhmnst and zoinists do torture their captives.

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  • pankaj#1

    Engrich;
    I could not see the END OF ISRAEL, IN NEWS PAPERS, despite of using magnifying glass.
    Can you help me with name of paper, date of publication etc?

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    engrich Reply:

    The three main reasons for believing that Israel has suffered a significant defeat are these:

    1. Israel did not get what it wanted and was demanding – an unconditional and unilateral ceasefire by Hamas.

    2. Hamas’s isolation is over, ended. The Obama administration
    and European governments may still refuse to recognise Hamas and talk
    directly and openly to it, but they are as good as doing so when they
    engage with Egypt’s President Morsi.

    3. President Obama had the good sense to realise that he can do business with the pragmatic Morsi.

    In today’s Ha-aretz there is a fascinating and revealing
    account by Barak Ravid of what happened behind Netanyahu’s closed doors.
    The essence of it was that Defense Minister Barak “wanted it” (the
    truce on more or less Egypt’s terms); Foreign Minister Lieberman (who
    subsequently changed his mind) started out “demanding a ground
    invasion”; and Netanyahu “vacillated”.
    My own speculation is that Netanyahu finally decided that it would be
    too costly for Israel in diplomatic and political terms to say “No” to
    Obama and many other leaders who insisted that Israel had to agree to a
    ceasefire on more or less Egypt and Hamas’s terms in order to prevent
    further de-stabilization in the region. (The extent to which Netanyahu
    was worried about the possible consequences for Israel of saying “No”
    was indicated by the fact that a few rockets were fired into Israel
    after the ceasefire came into effect, and Netanyahu did not allow
    himself to be provoked into responding with more bombs and missiles)

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    And you believe that Israel is finished?? Ha Ha
    This is my last post to you. people who drag family members in a dialogue and use worst kind of language are not people.

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    engrich Reply:

    did i use this against u.tell me.kasab bhee kaisa jehadi tha filmi gana gate phansi par chada.

    engrich Reply:

    isreal will not be finished but will be under control.hs to leave many settlements.i dont know who will control the brhmnsts of india and when.they are the carbon copy of these satanic child killers.soniajee and mms are only hope.

    Anonymous Reply:

    egrich – Israel has blame to share; but all the surrounding Islamic countries and Hamas too.. Palestnians have been taken for a ride by their leaders foremost, then Israel.

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    engrich Reply:

    uno gave isreal 45%of palestine.now they are occupying 95%.they have pushed 2 million people in a strip of 600sq kilometermeter.then by stopping supplies converted into prison.with spring revolution things have changed.

    engrich Reply:

    now they have to vacate west bank(land occupied after 1967 invasion)or be ready to fight.gaza is plain 600sq meter strip.while west bank is hilly and far big.bad days for them .good lesson for indian fascists as well.talk and negotiation is the only way left.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Silence is deafening.
    Engrich, Wazoo main itni der to nahin lagati? ya kuchh aur kar rahe ho??

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  • pankaj#1

    Ravi;
    Bro, one defeat is not, that you lost war. keep it up. It was just a battle. Engrich, I am very angry with him. He abused a young person. I can not abuse, but usko raged doonga. you teach me Urdu, and I am happy for it. You are destructive but without destruction, where is construction?

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    engrich Reply:

    pankaj ur anger is on my foot.he wrote bad words for me first.as a elder i have to correct him.but u people are communal and narrow minded.
    hindu brhmnsts and israeli zoinists are like twin brothers.even americans are fed up with them.they always talk of voilence,like should we attack gaza or attack iran or we should send armies to syria.attack sudan kill ghaddafi hang saddam.pass their time with this bullshit.ground reality is after ceasefire hamas fired 20 rockets netanyahu just ignore.
    same hindu zoins of india,tell me when u are hanging kasab,now kasab finished give the date afzal guru(who id not kill anybody)so that kashmir peace can be disturb.after afzal guru they will ask date for hanging of madani.always busy in spoiling the atmosphere of nation.killer modi is hindu samrat as he killed 2000 muslims.

    sonia jee and mms are gift of god to india because of them we are seeing some development and national harmony.

    urdu ek tahzeeb hai language nahin.fascists also killed this great indian treasure.nahin aate hai to seekho.

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  • Anonymous

    This saga of Indier Singh namdhari, Charima of Uttrakhand Minorities commission gives an idea of the loot behind such high sounding titles.

    a) As Chairman of MINORITIES COMMISSION , he should be a good character guy. But he is known for murder, extortion, property grabbing.

    b) He gave government paid guards to liquor baron Ponty Chadha

    c) He accompanied POnty using his government vehicle and perks and instigated him to murder.

    It is time we look into the actual working of these Commissions. Anything goes in the name of minorities, even murder and theft.

    Vinod Sharma who is a member of the NMC can well tell us if the rot is there in the National minorities commission also.

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  • devduttkumar

    2G report not mine, was told to sign it: Babu behind CAG audit

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/2g-report-not-mine-was-told-to-sign-it-babu-behind-cag-audit/1035020/0

    =====

    The parameters used in the CAG’s calculation were not tenable, Singh
    said. “I was of the opinion that documents available with us were
    categorical that charging of 2G spectrum was never recommended by Trai
    (Telecom Regulatory Authority of India), nor has the government ever
    contemplated any charges for the spectrum other than entry fee. In my
    communications to headquarters I maintained there was no documentary
    evidence to substantiate the calculations on the formula suggested by
    CAG headquarters. However, my office forwarded presumptive loss
    calculated on the basis on directions from CAG headquarters,” he said.

    ==

    R P Singh told The Indian Express in a telephone interview that CAG
    officials had visited Joshi’s residence on the Good Friday holiday on
    April 22, 2011.

    “I got to know from my team members that CAG officials including
    senior CAG officials from headquarters went to the PAC chairman’s
    residence and assisted him in preparing the PAC report. I cannot say
    with certainty what exactly transpired at the meeting,” Singh said.

    Asked if there was an attempt by the PAC chairman to influence
    the outcome of the CAG’s 2G report before it was tabled in Parliament,
    Singh said “it appears” from a note prepared by R B Sinha, D-G at CAG
    headquarters, that there were “some telephone calls by the PAC chairman
    to access the 2G report which was under preparation”.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Is it the case of the BJP leaders, who have instantly sprung to CAG’s defence, have been caught without their khakhi knickers?

    It would be interesting to see the reaction of Vijay, who used to dance a la Jeetendra, wearing shoes worth Rs 1,76,000,0000000. And of other Sangh Parivar supporters too.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A very weak and pliable Addl Secy to the Govt of India… just signed where he was asked to sign by the Dy CAG and the CAG. Did they point a gun at him. ..
    PS- one id would do .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The Supreme court is not happy with the terms of the auction. The spectrum range was limited so that few people showed interest. Congress wanted to prove that no chori happened even though 1000 crores in different accounts have been traced. Former HT editor also featured in the Radia tapes and so did many other newsmen.

    Do you think this is acceptable for india since the Congress did this mahachori?..

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  • Anonymous

    The ladies of the Indian Royalty are generally seen with their heads covered … but the Begums of Pataudi …aren’t they different…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen– the head covering is mostly regional, and I guess, the result of Islamic invasion. Women – royalty or otherwise – in South India do not cover their head (some Muslim women do cover )..Travancore royalty , Mysore royalty do not cover the heads. My guess is that Baroda Gaekwad queens also did/do not,

    My guess is that the women covering the head in the north started after the Islamic invasion.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    One memorable evening I spent recently was at Pataudi Palace near Gurgaon . Its hotel now. Well it is a well maintained place and the food was good… the ambience great. And some top “sycophants” of the Congress too were at lunch…

    The palace is adorned with Photos of the Pataudi parivar– from Iftekhar ali to Saba….

    But…

    But…

    A guy from the proletariat like me always finds this Royalty worship very very funny!!

    The Palace guards were there to tell you stories of how the young nawab Saif played with a tricylcle and what not…

    just reminded me all the time of the palace guards int eh Congress who keep finding a genius in Rahul and Sonia after every blunder they make !

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    You went hunting for an experience. They didn’t come to you.

    vijay ! Reply:

    NO complaints on that score. I went by choice. Still all that ooh aah about royal blood..

    never felt any emotion for it…

    devduttkumar Reply:

    These days only people who show some emotion with things like that are the people with some sense of history.

    vijay ! Reply:

    :) depends on one’s outlook.

    I’ll be emotional at jalianwala bagh. At Gandhi Ashram..

    But will never be emotional about which condom Saif Ali or his grandpop used.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Your emotion is monochrome.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Never lacked emotion. But never did atyachar with emotion!

    Well unlike European history our stories of royalty are always about the glory of the king and nothing about the praja. All one sided.

    Not a participative royalty.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    There was never anything called participative royalty. That’s your way of comforting yourself.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Not in earlier times… not today with royal families owning parties…

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Get some clarity of thought before discussing.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Am clear in thinking! Sorry … I will exclude THAT royal family… just to keep you happy.

    But generally these are royal families now. Chautalas and Hoodas in Haryana… Badals in Punjab… * I hve been to the homes of both) , Mulyam;s and Mayawatis family in UP….

    devduttkumar Reply:

    A sahukar or even zameendaar is not royal.

    You are going down the scale very fast. Check your slide, else you will find your royal bedroom in a gutter soon and call the filth smell your new-age scent.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well I was trying to say that these people have become Royal by fraud. They have just captured the resources of the state and claimed a sort of royalty.

    I wish you could understand subtle allusions.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    If you give a “kabadiwala” respect of royalty because of his wealth, it’s your problem, not mine.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    If you give a “kabadiwala” respect of royalty because of his wealth, it’s your problem, not mine.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Arre big brother… understand the sarcasm. These guys believe htey are royal now as they have achieved wealth thru commissions and misuse of power.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    They don’t believe. People like you believe them to be. You call them royal, they love it. They don’t understand your sarcasm.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Arre big brother… understand the sarcasm. These guys believe htey are royal now as they have achieved wealth thru commissions and misuse of power.

    Anonymous Reply:

    you mean ’some twisted sense of history’?

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Get a sense first.

    SHENOYBV Reply:

    My sense is history now. Soon I will be history.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Saab …why did you say that ? You shall be the present for many many years .

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen Saxenaji,

    This is the new pest affecting this blog.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This is fake Ravi taking my ID

    Anonymous Reply:

    wasnt Pautaudi something like a small village — was it a kingdom (scope.size wise) like Baroda, Nizam, Mysore, Travancore, Scindia etc… (if they had wealth) where did Pautaudi wealth come from

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well there is a village in Haryana… called pataudi.

    Wealth of all kings came from gettiing a lions share of

    a) revenue

    b) Taking a share of the crop of farmers.

  • pankaj#1

    बूंदों में कैद उसने बवंडर नहीं देखा
    हेरां हे नाखुदा अब तूफां को देखकर
    Borrowed lines but carry great meaning.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Gr8 lines! Will ponder over them as I go off to sleep now…

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    I have been reading and to some extent reacting to many posts from Indians and pakistanis here. Some of them are positive and some of them are negative.
    What I want to say is that, neither Indians nor Pakistanis are 100% correct. For both groups, I can write a detailed message, but I will not. Just, who can afford and has inclination, to read, next 100 years by an American author, you can google, and you will find, who is writer, and how to get hold of it. I was pleasantly surprised to know that Hassan Nisar had access to this book.
    You people are clinging to belifefs, which are outdated. What is the difference? Hinduism is not hurting future, docile and with gems of wisdom, written so long back, while Islam was relevant at a specific time, not now.
    All the civilizations contributed significantly,when they were at the peak. Now, things are different. None of us will see those changes, but we can not deny them.India is going in right direction, while Pakistan is not.
    Will be happy to engage with anyone, who is sufficiently informed.

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  • devduttkumar

    Joshi formula among 3 CAG used to estimate 2G loss

    http://www.indianexpress.com/
    ====
    A CAG document dated July 8, 2010 says the audit team was instructed
    by Shubha Kumar to work out a loss based on the formula suggested by
    Joshi at the PAC meeting. The audit team, which did not approve of the
    formula, forwarded a report with its objections.

    “As desired by PD (RC) a para on loss of potential revenue on
    issue of licences linking the prices to the FDI attracted by UAS licence
    is placed opposite for perusal. (In) this connection it is submitted
    that we are not on strong grounds in the argument made. However, since
    Hqrs has instructed for a draft we may forward it along with our
    comments (sic),” the report said.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Affidavit
    Before the Honble Supreme Court Of India
    I _____aged 59 years , s/o _____, do solemnly state
    ..That I am the Director CBI which is a special police force constituted under the Delhi Special Police Establishment Act 1946 and functioning under the adminstrative control of the Ministry of Personnel , Govt Of Inidia
    ….That the Prime Minister of India is holding charge of the Adminstrative Ministry
    ….That the CBI has carefully examined in detail and have estimated that the loss which the State of India has suffered due to the illegal sale of 2G Spectrum by the Govt of India is Rs 30,000 crores.
    …That we have registered a regular FIR under the Prevention of Corruption Act read with the Indian Penal Code as we find considerable evidence that the whole process of sale was vitiated with illegalities , contrary to govt rules and procedures . malafide and intended to derive illegal pecuniary gain ….
    ……………
    So if you any evidence to the contrary obtained thru Mr R P Singh or the Indian Express or otherwise place it before the Honbl’e Supreme Court of India thru Affidavit.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Like M M Joshi, you too have started writing fake affidavit for others !!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You have co-habited with the fakes for so long that you cannot distinguish pro forma from fake….

    devduttkumar Reply:

    You have been co-habiting with dumbs for so long that you have started pre-printing the proforma with the applicant’s age.

    Go, join the dumb group. You are the 4th one to empower the dumb group.

    Anonymous Reply:

    4 the one ? dumb group ? ..better than fakes..

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Any day, Ask Shenoy, Vijay or Vinoo.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Are u the hitman ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    He meant Vinod/Pathak/emotional/Devduttkumar

    Anonymous Reply:

    really good!

  • devduttkumar

    Punish govt, not nation, PM told BJP at dinner

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/punish-govt-not-nation–pm-told-bjp-at-dinner/1035584/

    ===

    Making an appeal to the BJP to let Parliament function, Prime Minister
    Manmohan Singh is said to have told the party at the dinner on Thursday:
    “If you all think the government has committed a mistake, punish the
    government but not the nation.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The country makes an appeal to the PM ….stop misleading and lying to the country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BJP has to rise above these constant squabbles – it is one thing if it will bring them additional votes. I do not see that. They have lost so many golden chances. They are at a tipping point; aadmi will take the scoundrels they know instead of the scoundrels they do not

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  • vijay !

    @ Devdutt, emotional, Pathak and all the other IDs

    Well as work overload keeps me away from this blog , I always love the idea I am invoked as a symbol of Dumbness, of the HIndu Right, of all things you need to make an example…..

    But then I always say

    Hum Se Hai Zinda Wafa Aur Humhi Se Hai Teri Mehfil Jawan
    Hum Jab Na Honge To Ro Ro Ke Duniya Dhundhegi Mere Nishan

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Keep loving yourself.

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  • Anonymous

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    बूंदों में कैद उसने बवंडर नहीं देखा
    हेरां हे नाखुदा अब तूफां को देखकर
    Oankaj doc made my day, am copying into my facebook page to impress the gals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Devdutt dude, you have some gud points but you tangle with the gud folk here unnecessarily. same for you Parvez man- dont get into the gutter with ENGRICH and RAVI- they can be very abusive.
    KHAP vs TALEBAN- i dont care if the khap is 1/1000th of the taleban- i am indian i set higher stds for my country. having a factory in Bhiwadi and extensive business inteersts in haryana, let me say the khap are a f pain in the arse!!! while shenoy sir you live a comfy life in bangalore, the lievs of many ordinary village folk in khapodia land is miserable.
    DO YOU EVEN HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY ARE KILLED FOR LOVE MARRIAGES EVERY YEAR?????? you city folk do not have a clue.
    khap, bukhari, owaisi, thackeray- india deserves better

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    Anonymous Reply:

    gopi sir, Mrs Sharma has moved up- she is our receptionist and does loads else- takes the weekly moolah to the bank in a jhola – can you believe it- who would think of attacking a simple dhoti clad woman for her jhola- blast – now i have given our khufia secret away :) )

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks Rizwan, but do not know whether this will impress girls.
    This is revolutionary sher.
    In the same line:
    दबेगी कब तलक आवाजे-आदम हम भी देखेंगे
    रूकेंगे कब तलक जज़्बाते-बरहम हम भी देखेंगे
    चलो यूँ ही सही ये जौरे-पेहम हम भी देखेंगे
    तुम्हे भी देखना होगा ये आलम हम भी देखेंगे। !–साहिर

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Rizwan,
    After impressing a girl, eventually it will be:
    एक घल मे पति TV देख रहा था। बीबी रसोई मे खाना पका रही थी। तभी एक भयंकर तूफान आया। जिसकी वजह से घर की छत उड़ गई। और दोनों पति-पत्नी घर मे से उछलकर घर से कोई आधा मील दूर एक खेत मे घास के पुआल के ढेर पर गिरे। जब पति संभला तो उसने पाया कि पत्नी हौले हौले सुबक रही है।
    अब क्यो रोती हो? पति बोला-”देख तो रही हो भगवान की दया से हम बाल बाल बच गये। ‘वो तो है। पत्नी वोली-’लेकिन ये तो खुशी के ऑसू है।
    खुशी के ऑसू?पति हैरानी से बोला।
    हाँ,जी। दस साल मे ये पहला मौका है जबकि हम इकट्ठे घर से बाहर निकले हैं।’

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    Anonymous Reply:

    oh Pankaj sir- what a sweet joke. maybe not even a joke. but times have changed sir in India- girls are just too mod. my ammi would love me to marry a muslim for obvious reasons- although perhaps every 6th or 7 th marriage in our relatives is to a non muslim nowadays- but what horrifies her the most is these whisky swilling mini skirt wearing ‘titlees’
    the other extreme is this new trend of wearing hijabs- for me both to be avoided
    viju and parvez seem to go more for the micr skirts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    oh Pankaj sir- what a sweet joke. maybe not even a joke. but times have changed sir in India- girls are just too mod. my ammi would love me to marry a muslim for obvious reasons- although perhaps every 6th or 7 th marriage in our relatives is to a non muslim nowadays- but what horrifies her the most is these whisky swilling mini skirt wearing ‘titlees’
    the other extreme is this new trend of wearing hijabs- for me both to be avoided
    viju and parvez seem to go more for the micr skirts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Rizwan

    It must be pervez who really goes after the micro skirts!

    I

    only

    go

    for

    miniskirts!

    SOme years back by accident I landed on a beach in Europe which it turned out was pretty “free.”– with some girls dressed in … nothing,

    From that day I concluded that certain square inches of a body had more magnetism… only if covered!!!!!!!!!!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    BEAUTIFUL joke.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Thanks Rizwan for dropping in! And breaking my resolve for staying away from the blog till I do my homework… a small design project which my partners have landed on my head.

    Yes, parvez is a new lad and probably been put off by Engrich;s abuse.

    And yes you are right about Khap. It is always easy to gloat that our devil is much less of a devil than their devil… But the fact is devil is a devil. Good part is that they have not been able to get heir archiac laws inserted into the Indian penal codes, despite Naveen jindal and Chautala recommending so.

    yes India needs better people! Could not agree more…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rizwan,

    I am in total agreement with you.

    But, I have worked in Haryana for about a year and have toured the whole of the khap land. But I agree with you it is world apart from our Bangalore.

    By the way, Bangalore city had the 15th murder yesterday, during November alone!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rizwan,

    I am in total agreement with you.

    But, I have worked in Haryana for about a year and have toured the whole of the khap land. But I agree with you it is world apart from our Bangalore.

    By the way, Bangalore city had the 15th murder yesterday, during November alone!

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  • vijay !

    Kejriwal’s party has done one good thing.

    Announced that no family rule will prevail . This is a direct insult to the naukers and sycophants of th4e Congress who will feel insulted.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    “The Party with a Difference”.

    Hope it doesn’t slide to become ” a Party with Differences”.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    The COngress wishes so. Manish Tewari has already objected to the name saying that aam aadmi can only be used byt eh Congress.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    it will definitely not become the party of duffers like the congress is.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    You are not definite about your own party – BJP. Funny you started vouching for others.

  • vijay !

    where is MOhan?

    Mystery of the week…

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan is travelling. Hope he can join us soon.

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  • engrich

    A 16-year-old girl is thought to have become the first person to speak from
    the House of Commons despatch box in the British parliament while wearing a
    hijab, The Times newspaper reported Saturday.

    Sumaiya Karim a biology,
    chemistry, history and maths student, was speaking as the Youth Parliament held
    its annual session in the lower house’s chamber, where Britain’s MPs
    gather.

    Karim, from Wokingham, west of London, said: “Wearing the hijab
    was my own choice.”

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    The Muslim hijab scarf covers the head and neck
    but leaves the face exposed.

    British ministers and opposition shadow
    ministers stand at the despatch boxes when they address the Commons.

    The
    democratically elected Youth Parliament members, aged 11 to 18, are elected to
    represent the views of young people in their area to government

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  • pankaj#1

    Vinodji;
    It is still not too late. Just govern India by rule of law and original congress spirit.
    Believe me, not only NRIs but majority of Indian will support congress. Do not play to gallery, appeasement and vote bank policy of Ali and coolies.
    Some pain will be there, but in the end, Cwill triumph.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    That is what I always say. Let us rescue Congress from Sycophancy and dynastic succession and make it a party of Patel, Gandhi and Dadabhai Naorjji;s dreams– rather than a party of Buta Singhs, Digvijay Singhs, Mahipal maderna and Rahul gandhi.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Don’t try to rescue this Congress Party.

    Strengthen BJP.

    OR,

    Start a new Congress Party based on Patel, Gandhi and Dadabhai Naorjji;s dreams and principles. You can call your new Congress Party Congress -AA ( Aam Admi ).

    Leave this congress party to its fate. It will find its own equilibrium without you.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    I Invite you to joi he quest of cleaning our Indian National Congress of dynasties and chors.

    No need to create another Congress. The old one has so many offices on government land… so much money i the kitty…

    We just need to hold elections and give all that back to the people of India..

    Anonymous Reply:

    It s a wonderful idea. The current group has done a corporate acquisition of the COngress assets thru their chain of sycophants.
    It can be again taken over by a pro- people’s group. But that won’t be easy!
    Vijay… aap andola shuru karo… hum aapke saath hai!
    By the way the impotent hag who uses my name gets abusive… mainly because my comments hit him in the balls!

    devduttkumar Reply:

    ***************************************************************

    Vijay’s DeshPrem !!!

    “…..No need to create another Congress. The old one has so many offices on government land… so much money i the kitty…”

    **************************************************************

    So much for your “Patel, Gandhi and Dadabhai Naorjji ideals” !!!

    Time you realized your hollowness.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Cmon! U r happy if the national herald land is tranferred to Baby G. But unhappy in case all the assets given in the charge of people like kiran bedi Sent from my BlackBerry® on Reliance Mobile, India’s No. 1 Network. Go for it!

    devduttkumar Reply:

    You and your andolan !!!

    Time you slipped into the bed with a teddy.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Vijay kumar is no chicken. When the whole of indian press cowered before musharaff I was kind enough to tell nawaz sharif to punish him during a chance mEeting in selfrdges london. When the whole of the contractor biradari was lining up for money thru illegitamate contracts for non existent from a CM on whose support Congress lives… Ijust yawned and walked out. So ur labels only make me smile : ) Sent from my BlackBerry® on Reliance Mobile, India’s No. 1 Network. Go for it!

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Wow ! We all love your Nationalism ! You make our friend Usman from Pakisthan real proud !!

    “Nawaz bhai, nawaz bhai ! pata hai na, aap ka chhota bhai musharaff ne kya kia…usne na mujhe mala…aap zalool usko ek tanta dena…usne hamala agra biryani khaya aul wahin table pe susu kar diya…zalool marna usko….maloge na ! “

    vijay ! Reply:

    Thanks!! I am sure you have a gr8 future ahead as a speech writer for Vadra! :)

    Best of luck!!

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Aah! Our celebrated writer can’t differentiate between a dialogue and a speech !!

    vijay ! Reply:

    I was not at agra. The entire iNdian press– except Prannoy and Vir Sanghivi were as excited as a teenager seeing Mallika Sherawat taking a bath.

    So the dialogue fits in with the Indian press…

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Vajpayee fed Musharaff Biriyani.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Your love for Vajpayee and Advani has been linked with an inability to land crony capitalist contracts during the NDA tenure… by our forensic accountant…. :)

    devduttkumar Reply:

    You talk of crony capitalism ! You dial a friend’s friend’s friend’s friend for business. And that shameless CA who can never get a piece of business without networking !

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well he can answer for himself…,

    As far as I concerned, I have chosen NOT to take anywork which involves violating a certain ethical standard. And not wonder, at times that I am missing out on fun, even as I count small change of my wallet!

    Oh yes but I do sometimes tag along with a client to meet the so called leaders. Including the International Dahla, a few Cong honchos, and even the new star of UP — who by the way has potential and humility.

    And yes I have even learnt that you can get a ticket from new Delhi constituency from parties ( except BJP and COngress) provided you shell out a few crores…

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Good. Never forget about yourself when you lecture others about Crony Capitalism.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    we have already left the congress party to its fate.

    What Vijay Kumar and Pankaj ji are asking is that you should help the party to come to its original version.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It really is a good Idea. Kiran Bedi or kejriwal could become Congress members and force a party election. Ok if this is not possible, some honest congress men can revolt against the Vadra- Sonia clique ad their props. Then force an election on the values of Anna and kejriwal

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    the family clique has the party in its death grip. Nothing is possible till the mataji moves aside.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Handle your patloon first. Or. shall I say chaddi !

    It’s falling apart.

    Careful, the crack is showing.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    (P)reserve your energy to make the BJP strong.

    engrich Reply:

    congress under leadership of soniajee nd mms only can save india from split.golwalkar was caught with explosives in 1930 in meerut,after their arrival on scene communal riots and bomb blasts started which is taking india back.it is the duty of every educated and enlightened indians to marginalize these satanic child killers and rapists from main stream of indian politics.

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  • Anonymous

    I am at Bombay since Thursday late evening, had to unexpectedly rush here little
    ahead of my schedule. Will join you all in 2-3 days.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Join later, no problem.
    Post jokes……URGENT………
    BLOG SLEEPING…………….

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  • Anonymous

    What is tendulkar doing?
    There is going be no faster erosion of the brand, of public goodwill, of respect then what we are seeing in Tendulkar;s case.
    My daughter;’s friends– watching the match at my house are making fun of him!
    I am sure there is a better way to go. He may be looking for that last burst of glory… maybe a double hundred before he announces his retirement.
    But my gut feeling is that that public affection may just slide sown much before that.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Tendulkar committed a huge blunder by hitching his wagon to that of the derailed congress.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes,

    In case he identifies too much with the COngress… 70% of India will turn agqainst him.

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  • Anonymous

    Gujarati boy disappointed to know Tulika won’t be CM if Congress wins

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Ahmedabad: Jignesh Modi, who turned 18 earlier this year and will be voting in the upcoming assembly elections next month, is confused over whom to vote for.

    Jignesh had almost made up his mind to vote for Congress after seeing TV and online ads featuring a girl called Tulika. However, he was heartbroken to learn that the girl was just a TV actress and not the Chief Ministerial candidate of the party.

    “This is cheating!” Jignesh protested, “I thought she will become the Chief Minister if Congress won, but she’s just an actress! Now I have no idea what to do! I don’t even know who the Gujarat Congress head is!”

    Jignesh is the first known case where an aam admi has made up his mind after being influenced by TV ads by political parties. A similar case was reported in 2004, where a man in Delhi was believed to have turned a BJP supporter after watching India Shiningads, but investigations later revealed him to be a television journalist and not an aam aadmi.

    “You can sell soaps, deodorants, insurances, or tickets to samagam of Nirmal Baba through TV ads, but not political beliefs,” a marketing professor of IIM Ahmedabad told Faking News.

    “You have to buy political support, you don’t sell it,” the professor explained.

    However, Congress has not lost all hopes. They are confident that spinners stalwarts like Kapil Sibal and Manish Tewari can issue statements that might confuse people like Jignesh and make them believe that Tulika indeed could become the Chief Minister of Gujarat if they voted for Congress.

    “It’s almost like making people believe that they will get to kiss Katrina Kaif if they buy Slice mango drink,” a Congress leader conceded that the task was not so easy.

    “But then we have made people believe that there was no 2G scam!” he pointed out.

    “Or we may even consider making Tulika the Chief Minister,” the Congress leader further said, “Just like Manmohan Singh is the Prime Minister.”

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  • Anonymous

    a tale of two villages… Economist Magazine..

    What should we do with t5he drag of UP? Does the constitution allow other states to take over another state under moral hazard clause?

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/feastandfamine/2012/10/rural-india

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Frankly speaking the differnece is in the size and the motivation of the governments.

    Generally BJP states have little corruption and efficient governments. Chattisgarh is therefor much better off than UP.

    Of course UP also suffers from its size and the fact that all its politics is just caste and religion. based

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    Anonymous Reply:

    vinoo-
    i think we can no longer afford a state like UP be left on its own.. I do not know what is the solution; but other parts of India are moving on all cylinfders – I had hopes on Akhilesh, being young, educated etc..Looks like he is not interested in the upliftment and is following his fathers footsteps

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Gopi

    Development really can’t be left tot eh good intentions of a few individuals. You are right about Akhilesh being young and I would add — humble.

    recently I was taken by a client to meet him— I being the side show who had to open the computer and make a power point presentation on the clients behalf. He does seem eager and intelligent. But UP is such an albatross which will only move in case it becomes four states with 5 crore population in each.

    Out there recrutiments, officers, etc are all selected for postings on caste and religion basis. UP will always remain a laggard

  • Anonymous

    Can any human being beat this?

    [Reply]

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Which one is Dalit ?

    If it’s difficult, then tell me which one is Marathi Manoos !

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    ????

    [Reply]

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Difficult to comprehend ?

    engrich Reply:

    both are brhmns.if u have cat in your house,u dont know who is queen of house,malkin or cat.they have capacity to enslave malkin.clever cat.i am cat lover.in my houe i have5.on street i feed 10 daily.

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  • devduttkumar

    Ram Jethmalani suspended from BJP for indisclipline; his statement on CBI Director was in favour of Congress, says party

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/ram-jethmalani-suspended-from-bjp-for-indisclipline-his-statement-on-cbi-director-was-in-favour-of-c-297067?pfrom=home-lateststories
    ==========================================================
    The BJP didn’t say why Jethamalani was wrong. It said his statement supported the Congress.

    So much for Nationalism !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    yes, bad indeed. BJP will go the Congress way, will not win elections except in pockets like Gujrat .. Their misrule in MP will cost them there in the next assembly and parliament elections.. It is amazing they have not suspended yedurapap…B

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Why is BJP sounding more like Vijay these days ?

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  • devduttkumar

    Genocide by an embedded BJP sympathiser in the blog support team.

    —————————————————————————————–

    This morning to my surprise I saw more than 25-30 posts deleted !
    Most of them highlighting the shameless behaviour of BJP and its supporters.
    The support guy seems to be an BJP sympathiser and without a sense of humour.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    All my postings done yesterday are also missing. So you see a BJP hand in that too?

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Yeah. Many didn’t get to see the logical sequence that debate.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It is always good to see you fighting with Vijay. I think you guys should start charging spectator fee.

    vijay ! Reply:

    This is all part of Kapil Sibal’s web censoring scheme. In Mumbai, 2 Air India employees spent 12 days in jail for posting against the PM.

    ———— From NDTV—————–

    Mumbai: Even as outrage over the arrest of two Maharashtra girls for their Facebook post on Bal Thackeray continues, another instance of harassment involving two Air India employees has come to light.

    Air India cabin crew members Mayank Mohan Sharma and KVJ Rao were arrested by the cyber crime cell of the Mumbai police in May this year for material they put up on Facebook.

    The two are alleged to have shared lewd jokes about politicians, made derogatory comments against the Prime Minister and insulted the national flag in their posts.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    These types of suppression will never yield permanent advantages. These have been practised from time immemorial; we can see where Roman, Ottoman, British, Old soviet union empires are today..

    Here, in our own country, Shrimathi Indira Priyadarshini Gandhi did this and she was routed in the next election after that.

    It is quite sad that the govt will put this as a priority.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In college we guys just say so many things

    — Teri behen ki
    — Teri maa ki aankh
    — teri teri teri… sub kuch ki..

    It is indeed sad that some bureaucrat somewhere puts you in jail for such comments.

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Gopi

    Rightly said! I think the government is losing a sense of humour.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hindustan times and BJP support?????

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Only in Pathakji’s nightmares.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Old age forces you to sleep early. You don’t get to know what’s happening around you while you are snoring.

    Be careful.

  • Anonymous

    Vijay-

    Interesting article in NYT about healthcare innovations/healthcare venture cap etc in Delhi and South India.
    Good stuff; however, I am against a two tier system..

    http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/26/in-delhi-a-sand-hill-road-for-cheap-health-care/?src=twrhp

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Interesting article!

    My nature of work does make me interact with some doctors and Hospitals. One can sense that Indian health care can be excellent– top of the international line maybe.

    But affordable? Well not the Fortis or Max or Apollo hospitals. My dad was sick for some time. In seven days in the ICU– with excellent health care– we notched up a bill of 2.35 lakhs.

    So somewhere the need for private initiatives and GOVERNMENT excellence to deliver health care to the masses is absolutely paramount. I hope all these initiatives take into account that people may just have 10- 20 thousand to spend in intensive care.

    Surely there is opportunity here. But a huge challenge also.

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  • vijay !

    ———————————————————————————
    ~~ RAHUL GANDHI BRIGADE COMMITS HARAKARI, khudkhushi, suicide!!~~~~~~~
    ———————————————————————————-

    If this is true… Rahul, Manish Tewari and Sibal should resign immediately!!

    Imagine insulting India for votes!

    ———————- From NDTV——————————-

    A political controversy has broken out over a Congress advertisement ahead of the next month’s crucial elections in Gujarat. The advertisement which talks about the malnutrition figures also shows a picture of a malnutritioned child.

    The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) has alleged that the picture shown in the advertisement was that of a Sri Lankan refugee camp shot by a UNICEF photographer.

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  • devduttkumar

    Ponty Chadha murder: Namdhari expelled from BJP

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Ponty-Chadha-murder-Namdhari-expelled-from-BJP/articleshow/17371915.cms

    ========================================================

    Now Vinoo must be happy. 3 days back he wrote the following :

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    vinoo59 • 3 days ago

    This saga of Indier Singh namdhari, Charima of Uttrakhand Minorities commission gives an idea of the loot behind such high sounding titles.

    a) As Chairman of MINORITIES COMMISSION , he should be a good character guy. But he is known for murder, extortion, property grabbing.

    b) He gave government paid guards to liquor baron Ponty Chadha

    c) He accompanied POnty using his government vehicle and perks and instigated him to murder.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Some Forensic Analysis !!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Forensic ANALYST STRIKES BACK!

    Check out Ponty Chadha’s links with Amrandir SIngh. He would only invest in Mayawait or COgnress states.

    Ab kya jawab hai?

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    You wanted BJP to hold on to a Killer?

    Ohh! I forgot. After the Party President’s “shell companies”, now you wanted to showcase Namdhari’s “spent shells” !

    ==

    Why is that every BJP guy abuses the Congress on TV camera during day and sneaks in dark to do business with a Congressi ?

    Like you talk about Crony capitalism here, and then sneak in for a networking high tea to solicit business !

    Talk of a double-headed snake !!!

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    vijay ! Reply:

    I think you need to change your mindset. If there is a congress government at the centre, it does not mean that all the central revenue is the personal jaydad of the Congres and its fuedal family.

    If a road is being made in Delhi… it does not mean the road belongs to Sonia G.

    ——————————

    Networking is different from talwa chaatna. I am saying this on behalf of vinoo.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    Crony capitalism is not talwa chatna. It’s same as business through networking.

    Never mind. You never got your P’s and Q’s right. Don’t strain yourself.

    By the way, what is true for Vinoo is true for you as well.

  • Anonymous

    ONLY IN THE Indian Express
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Social media was abuzz yesterday about a Gujarat Congress ad which showed a sickly baby – as if to indicate that malnourishment was rampant in the state. The photograph has been lifted – the social media claims – from the website of a Christian organisation. The note accompanying the photo states the baby is a victim of floods in Sri Lanka: http://iexp.in/Ivu4076

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  • keylogger remover

    keylogger remover…

    No return ticket for Musharraf to Pakistan? : Separated At Birth…