Time to place country above party



It’s about time the UPA began worrying— not as much for its own survival but that of India. One doesn’t really care who spread the rumors that made people from the north east return home in panic from across India.

The trigger for the exodus lay in states governed by the Congress — Assam and Maharashtra. So the lead party of the ruling combine cannot shrug accountability. The Opposition is responsible to the extent that they failed to counter in the states they ruled — notably Karnataka — a nefariously designed campaign to strike panic amongst settlers from the north east.

The problem could acquire a monstrous dimension if the returnees get led astray and start striking at “foreigners” and “aliens” from elsewhere in India in the manner they were targeted at the height of the Assam ferment of the 1980s. The UPA must take a lead in evolving a national political consensus of the kind seen in Parliament in defense of the fleeing students and bread-seekers from north eastern states.

While devising a sustainable and inclusive strategy, the political class should not lose sight of the myriad sub-nationalist, ethnic and secessionist movement that have been a bane of north eastern India. Rather than concentrating on vote banks the time is to protect the unity and integrity of the country, more so when our none-too-friendly neighbours watch the deteriorating situation with a sense of glee.

The issue of illegal migration from Bangladesh is an issue that has to be handled with equal care. Deft diplomacy, robust internal security and politics above party interests alone can save the day for the country. Tarun Gogoi presides over a house divided in Assam with his detractors within the Congress itching to strike when the iron is hot.

Factionalism within the Congress has to be curbed with a firm hand by its top central leadership. The party that won India freedom cannot allow the country’s emotional and psychological division to fester any more. Power is meant to serve the people and the country. It isn’t a means to perpetrate political vested interests.

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  • Anonymous

    Standing ovation for Mr. Sharma for having said:

    Rather than concentrating on vote banks the time is to protect the unity and integrity of the country, more so when our none-too-friendly neighbours watch the deteriorating situation with a sense of glee.

    However, when you say “The party that won India freedom cannot allow the country’s emotional and psychological division to fester any more”, it is a bit too tough to chew and digest. The freedom fighters of Congress were in a different league. Let’s not compare them with the current crop.

    Another thing Mr. Sharma, as a member of the NMC, have you suggested:
    a) any concrete and measurable steps that the government should take to build the confidence of our NE brothers, help them re-settle at their place of study and work across different cities of the country?
    b) any time bound effort to help those living in relief camps back to their homes in riot-hit Assam?
    c) any means to identify and punish the local minority leaders who organised violent protest march in Mumbai and elsewhere?

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  • vijay !

    Great Post ! Congratrs Vinod Ji

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Azad Maidan rioters and their instigators must be brought to justice. The political class must unite to fight them before it is too late.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Ishwar

    This is India. Everyone does vote calculations here as votes get you power and power gets you unlimited money.

    The photograph of the breaking of the Amr jawan Jyoti has angered Muslims also. In case the leaders of the agitation are captured , most Muslims will support it.

    However I don’t see the COngress having the balls to do this.

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  • vijay !

    I am reposting what I posted in the last blog in context of this new one

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    ~~~~ AN AWKWARD QUESTION BY A NORTH EASTERNER ~~~~~~~~
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    i MET a public sector officer from Arunachal at a freinds house today.The conversation turned to the unfortunate panic in the North Easterners,This man has decided to stay in Delhi.I will repeat his words and let the bloggers out here decide.

    “We NOrth east people are very simple people. We have started getting more and more integrated with Indian in the last 15-20 years as there are many good jobs in Mainland.Earlier some Arunachalis were impressed with China. But I think if Indian government does not punish people who created the panic, then lot of anger will happen.

    Many people will start to say that CHina government will hang the rumour spreaders. Indian government cannot do anything if North East guy is troubled….”

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  • Anonymous

    Was it really the Facebook and Twitter?

    What do the Muslim masses read (at least in Delhi) and what kind of stories are being propelled for them?

    http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?282041

    How many news channels got agitated after reading this? The Assam girl (fake) molestation story became headline and ran 24X7 for weeks inviting heated panel discussions. Why is the same media hiding such TRUE stories? Would some one bring this (and similar) newspapers to book and ban them for life?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    A very very inflammatory article in Urdu press which Outlook and C M Naim talk about.. But then guys in the Urdu press who put up the pictures are prospective vote getters for all parties. I am 10,000 % confident that they will emerge stronger as they now sense their power of scaring communities in India.

    Imagine

    a) A fake morphed photo of Burma causes these morons to attack people in North East because they believe they are taking revenge on Buddhists and people from the Mongoloid race.l

    b) We have a joker called SM Kriashana as FM. A stronger more adept FM could have provoked China against Pakistan on this. After all , I have observed that Chinese are Buddhists mostly.

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay, Mohan, Ishwar, Pathak –

    Russians are leaning Indian Classical, Bollywood, and Bangra dances and performing for a New York audience. May be jehadis should take up dance and art instead of burning NE students!

    Alasiter McCauley is a renowned dance critic; with a lot of knowledge on Indian classical dance.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/20/arts/dance/indian-dance-at-downtown-dance-festival.html?_r=1

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  • Anonymous

    I have not participated in the discussion regarding what happened to the North East students and workers in Maharashtra and the Southern States. I was waiting for the fasting season to be over.

    I agree with Mr Sharma. For long, especially in the last ten years, our politicians have done everything to slice and dice India, and nothing to bring the country together. Congress should shoulder the majority of the blame; but other political parties also have followed the same path.

    The protests march, the bulk messaging etc all were executed as the side result of Friday sermons in (some of the ) mosques across the country, as Asghar Engineer’s article (link below) explains.

    http://twocircles.net/2012aug17/outbreak_violence_mumbai.html

    But, apart from who did what, serious issues remain 1) Why was our intelligence and police in the dark – this was a well planned, well coordinated disruption striking at the core of our country 2) Why hasn’t the politicians and the so-called community leaders called a spade a spade (3) Who are the real culprits behind this – is it the rogue elements of ISI, Muslim extremists here or Hindu/other mischief makers? What good it does for the government and for the country to complaint to the civilian government of Pakistan, if as Shinde/Home secretary states the bulk messages were sent by ISI operatives/sites.

    I was in the US in March-Aprii. They track people and institutions for terrorist activities. No terrorist activity has happened there after 9/11. I am told activities in some of the mosques are monitored. They also monitor right wing whites’ activities.

    No American Muslim will ever organize a protest violent march against either a perceived injustice in the US or on something like the discrimination/expulsion of Mayanmar Muslims. Why should we do it here? How is the US democracy different form our democracy? Or, do some of us think that as minorities we can get away with murder – literally? Obviously, no politician will upset us, as Vinod Sharma indicates. But shouldn’t we grow up? Shouldn’t a thousand Azim Premjis bloom? Shouldn’t hundreds of Amir Khans bloom? Our politicians and our community leaders constantly go after issues that do not have anything to do with our children’s education, our well-being, our freedom.

    Government of India and people of India should be quite careful and vigilant about the Salafi Islamic strain spreading through the Middle East, Souh East Asia, and South Asia. India should not consider all Muslims as vote banks, because there really is a group – Salafis – that is against all what India stands for. They are making inroads into newly democratic Middle East countries. Salafis won 25% in the Egyptian election. Salafis are fighting for a “virtue” that is inflexible and enforceable, and not necessarily for economic and political justice. Salafis are not jehadists, but more dangerous in the long term. They are well funded by Saudi Arabia. Our new friendship with Saudi Arabia is dangerous – they are helping us to catch a few terrorists here and there; but they will spread their Salafism here if we are not careful. Salafis are feared by moderate Muslims as well as “moderate Islamists’. My take is that the GOI is lumping all Muslims in one bucket; and not necessarily doing the segmentation needed to assess which group is influenced by extremist Sunni movements like Salafism. Hence the GOI policies make all Muslims upset with the government. No Indian Muslim will be upset if stern action is taken against perpetrators/groups. Nobody believes statements such as Paksitan is behind these; average Muslim considers this is a hogwash. GOI should not declare it even if it is true, if we cannot do anything about it.

    Let us hope we will not witness another panic like this due to the incompetence of our government.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Shoeb

    Well written. Belated Eid greetings (incase you missed my earlier mubarak !)

    Met a few Muslim friends and employees yesterday. Some of them said that they were angry that the Azad maidan protesters remained unpunished. It is at this time that leadership qualities need to be exhibited.

    The central leaders could have well gone to the railway stations to assure the North easterners that they were safe. Wish some Muslim intellectuals too had gone there too.

    We can have hindsight wisdom. Today HuJi and some kerala grousps have been found to be behind this rumour avalanche. Time to punish them, even though I beleive the Congress wont do this as its government in kerala is dependent on the Muslim league’s support.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    Eid Mubarak to you. Eid holidays are over here, life will be back to normal fom today.

    A good post. I just don’t see any logic behind protests in support of Muslims in other countries. There is some politics being played behind this. Scores of Muslims are being killed daily in Syria and I don’t see anyone talking about it. Is it because Muslims are killing Muslims there?
    May be people who are organizing these riots know that Syria issue will not arouse the sentiments of common Muslims in our country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    thanks for a very thought provoking post. I have a few ideas I would like to voice as response to your post.

    Amir Khan has the moral courage to hold the mirror to the entire Indian society, to show the evils and shortcomings afflicting it. Azim premji has the magnanimity to contribute hugely to the development of the whole Indian society. But the bitter truth is, sixty five years after independence, India’s Muslims society has slipped into the grip of dalals, peddlars of petty favours and mullahs who have nothing but gripe and victimhood to preach. There are no credible leaders in the whole Muslim society, which, would have helped it to see wht is good for itself.

    Our intelligence machinery is rotten, ill-equipped and neglected. None of the states or even the centre has a credible cyber-cop outfit, capable of responding to the crises like the present one.

    Your concern about the “salafi” stream of thought is a real one and the Muslim society should, soonest, engage itself with raising barriers against the free flow of this poison into the thought processes of its members.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    May your tribe increase in our country!!

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  • Anonymous

    Marketing.

    1. You see a gorgeous girl at a party. You go up to her and say: “I’m a very rich, Will you marry me?”Ans: This is “Direct marketing”.

    2. You at a party with a bunch of friends and see a gorgeous girl. One of your friend goes up to her and pointing at you and say:”He is very rich” Marry him?Ans: This is “Business advertising”.3. You are at a party and see a gorgeous girl. She walk up to you and says: “You are very rich” Can u marry me?Ans: This is “Brand recognition”.4.You see a gorgeous girl at a party. You go up to and say: “I’m very rich. Marry me?” She gives you a nice hard slap on your face.Ans: This is “Customer feedback”5.You see a gorgeous girl at a party. You go up to her and say: “I’m very rich. Marry me?” then she introduces u to her husband.Ans: This is “Demand and supply gap”.6. You see a gorgeous girl at a party. You go up to her and before u say: “I’m rich, marry me?” Your wife arrives-Ans: This is “Restriction for entering new markets”.

    Good morning friends.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    :)

    Marketing is an art… they always say…

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  • Anonymous

    Vinodji,

    A very thought provoking blog, after a series of insignificant ones. Your last blog on Olympics elicited 700+ responses, Regrettably, there were not even a handful on the subject of sports. This blog, happily will be different, because you are very near the truths concerning illegal infiltration, vote bank politics and pan-India character of the present day employment scene.

    However, I have a grouse against you personally. When the government has convenietly but utterly short-sightedly, shifted the blame on Pakistan and also expect Pakistan find a solution to our problems of cyber-nating of ill-will, you have conveniently opted for silence.

    You have also been very economical with your pen on the issue of infiltration, which you term “migration”. It is causing me migrane.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Don’t expect Mr. Sharma to go anytime soon full throttle against Congress. Good that he has made a start at least. Gradually we may see more articles by him criticizing Congress.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    The acknowledgement coming from Mr Vinod Sharma , acute secularist is surprising … “Rather than concentrating on vote banks the time is to protect the unity and integrity of the country”… Probably he has started realizing that the heat is now inching closer home …. Der ayad durust ayad..a sane write-up and not the usual BJP bashing ..

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  • Anonymous

    Gujarat Pradesh Congress to give form for cheap houses

    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-08-14/ahmedabad/33200575_1_affordable-houses-toilet-rakshabandhan

    AHMEDABAD: The second round of distributing forms for affordable houses to
    the women electoral voters will begin from August 20, the birth anniversary of
    Rajiv
    Gandhi.
    Gujarat Pradesh Congress spokesperson Manish Doshi said that the drive will
    begin simultaneously in eight Municipal Corporation and 159 Nagar palikas in the
    state.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Very funny!

    If it is a Central government scheme how can the Congress office allocate the houses. Old philosphy. name the scheme as Rajiv Gandhi, Indira Gandhi and Jawhar lal and then use the taxpayers money to give credit to the royal family.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This time Congress has adopted a different strategy for the elections. They are not attacking Modi personally. Since about a year they have been organizing yatras all over Gujarat criticizing the policies of Gujarat government and questioning the achievements. This latest gimmick of offering cheap houses is
    super hit in Gujarat. It won’t be a easy ride of Modi this time. He has to come up with something novel to counter Congress’s
    initiatives.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    All central funds are peddled as COngress funds. Let us know how many cheap houses they gave in Delhi and Haryana.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Congress is already in power in a number of states. Let them offer these housing to women there to begin with.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    People of Gujarat have lapped up this offer by Congress and this
    may have some effect on the results of the elections. Whether Congress will be able to fulfill their promise is another matter but
    I would say that this is a brilliant idea to get votes. Thousands of
    women in Gujarat were seen clamouring to get these forms.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Modi will take the wind out of this fake campaign by showing that no Congress state has done this.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ask any married woman who is living in a rented house that
    what she wants. A house will be on the top of their priority
    list which will definitely contain many other things also.

  • Anonymous

    Shoeb, you are one of the 5 or 6 people for whom I used to come to the blog. Happy Eid to you and your lovely family sirjee. Excellent thoughts and total opposite of what that fake Ravi the India hating muslim wud have said!!
    The Assam violence and exodus from south India shows that ROMOUR IN INDIA IS STILL KING.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Balwinderji

    Welcome back. Look forward to seeing you more in this blog.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Balwinderji,

    why are you not replying to our million requests for your presence here?

    Now that fake Ravi has vanished from the scene, the discussions are more rational, issue based and free from rancour and abuse. ZDo visit often.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Shenoy and balwinder

    Yes Balwinder’s presence is required here..

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Balwinder

    I think Ravi has changed for the better and given up Jehadi activities for now. May the jehadi monster in him be killed forever…

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  • Anonymous

    Kerala based PFI (ex SIMI) involved in spreading the rumour -

    Remember my prediction that Kerala will be come the next Kashmir (may be after Assam!)

    http://news.oneindia.in/2012/08/21/kerala-based-popular-front-spread-the-rogue-ne-sms-s-1057030.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I doubt whether government will take any action against them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan-

    Gov will keep on ignoring these unless the political class care for the country as Vinod Sharma so eloquently wrote in his article.

    Worse are bureacrats. We should have officials such as Mr Sheshan to clean up the bureaucracy.

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  • Anonymous

    Here is Owaisi and his third wave for you! He is a dangerous man who should be put in jail.

    http://janamejayan.wordpress.com/2012/08/20/owaisi-muslims-and-third-wave/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Congress not taking any action against Owaisi or not even talking about his hateful speech though unacceptable but is understandable because they are in alliance with his party. What has surprised me that members of other political parties are not saying anything about this man. He was openly instigating violence but nobody has courage to confront him.
    This is very alarming and I suspect we will see more of such incidents and much more serious than the current one. Such matters should be firmly nipped in the bud.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Agree. He should be in jail. His party should be banned. It is a SIMI in disguise.

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  • Anonymous

    Raj Thackrey leading a protest march against the Raza march is like the kettle calling the pot black.

    The rot in Mumbai began when his uncle started ShiV Sena. Now we have two monsters – the uncle’s Shiv Sena and the nephew’s MNS.

    thackrey ransacked public property during his anti toll march a few months ago. And four years ago his MNS killed two North Indians in an agitation against North Indians, very similar to the current anti-Assamese agitation by Muslims.

    Raza is bad. Muslim agitation/violence on Assam/Mayanmar is bad.

    So also MNS, Shiv Sena.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shiv Sena and MMS are goonda parties. Their policies are devisive and they are regulary involved in violence and destroying public property and
    sadly Indian State is very weak in taking firm actions against these rogue elements.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I beg to disagree. No matter what he or his party stands for, his present protest rally was much needed to show solidarity with the policemen who were beaten up and couldn’t retaliate due to pressures from above.

    In his address, no body could find any communal or rabble-rousing language being used. The national media was keeping a tight watch to somehow make a story out of his speech, they were sorely disappointed. The rally was a huge success.

    He said: “We have
    always said we will not raise our hand against policemen. I have taken to
    streets in support on Marathi policemen”. The city police needed someone to stand up for them and he did.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Here also he could stop himself from playing politics. This is
    what he said during the speech
    “”Attackers came from UP, Jharkhand and Bihar. I fear we will continue to suffer due to people from outside,” he told the public meeting at Azad Maidan, harping on his pet pro-Marathi theme.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He has a constituency that he needs to cater to and that’s why I began my post with ” No matter what he or his party stands for, his present protest rally was much needed to…”

    A politician would always indulge in a bit of politics at every available opportunity. At least he stoop up for the city policemen, and that’s what I am applauding.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, Vijay Kumar, Ishwar,

    who knows, now onwards, MNS may focus only on Bangladeshi Muslims who too are occupying precious space in Mumbai.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Ishwar

    Raj Thakrey has conveniently stepped into the vacuum of the COngress which refuses to condemn the rioters.

    He will soon use this popularity for negative purposes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The last is a tongue-in-cheek remark, but very apt.

    All said and done, this rally by MNS is a morale booster for the Mumbai policemen.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I beg to disagree. No matter what he or his party stands for, his present protest rally was much needed to show solidarity with the policemen who were beaten up and couldn’t retaliate due to pressures from above.

    In his address, no body could find any communal or rabble-rousing language being used. The national media was keeping a tight watch to somehow make a story out of his speech, they were sorely disappointed. The rally was a huge success.

    He said: “We have
    always said we will not raise our hand against policemen. I have taken to
    streets in support on Marathi policemen”. The city police needed someone to stand up for them and he did.

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  • vijay !

    I think Kapil Si BB al is the winner in this war on social media. He was trying to put in curbs. Now he has got his valid reasons. SO instead of punishing the rioters of Azad Maidan and Owaisi and gang, they have found Pakistan and the social media.

    Well get ready for the curbs.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The govt. has taken the easy way out – blame Pakistan and put some curb on the social media. They are unable/unwilling to touch the Owaisi’s of the country.

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  • Anonymous

    NDTV reports:

    1. As the BJP demanded his resignation, the Prime Minister told NDTV that he is
    ready to make a statement in parliament about allegations that coal fields were
    sold cheaply on his watch, costing the government 1.86 lakh crores. “We are
    ready to discuss whatever the Opposition wants,” Dr Manmohan Singh said to NDTV today.

    2. As the BJP shouted its demand for the resignation of the Prime Minister, in the
    Rajya Sabha, Rajiv Shuka walked up to PJ Kurien, who had just been elected
    Deputy Chairperson of the Rajya Sabha, and was presiding over the house. Mr
    Shukla, who is Minister of State for Parliamentary Affairs, whispered to Mr
    Kurien that the house should be adjourned for the day.

    Two minutes later, Mr Kurien declared just that.

    Mr Shukla’s instructions were caught on Mr Kurien’s mic and the cameras that broadcast proceedings of the Upper House. “Pure din Ke liye House adjourn kara dijiye liye (Adjourn the House for the day),” he directed. “Yes,” responded Mr Kurien.

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  • Anonymous

    Mumbai Police registers a case against MNS for holding rally without permission.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan,
    I believe, muslim goons took the permission, and got approval at mantralaya. Fu…them

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And Muslim goons also had de facto and de jure permission to molest the policewomen on duty, vandalise the memorial for soldiers and also to snatch revolvers and SLRs from the policemen, who were under sgtrict oirders from the commissioner to surrender everything, including his women officers to the rowdies.

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  • Anonymous

    The coal-scam debate never happened in parliament – thanks to the efforts of honourable Rajiv Shukla ji and an obliging RS chairperson. Congress paid media is out to deflect the blame from then coal minister and current PM to some of the state governments who voiced their opinion in favour of allocation of coal-blocks as opposed to competitive-bidding.

    PathakG, Mahesh and Manohar are also missing. I still have a few things in mind and leave it to PathakG to carry on the debate (at a time of his choosing)
    Here they are:
    a) were the coal mines really allocated (for whatever reasons and to whoever) absolutely free of cost?
    b) if yes, what was the rational behind it and were there any checks placed to prevent misuse?
    c) if no, how were the cost of mines calculated/arrived at?
    d) did some companies get coal-blocks allocated to them who were not in the business of producing electricity?

    One of the vital nation’s natural resource worth lakhs of crores shouldn’t have been given away to private parties without any guaranteed/verifiable benefit to nation.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    For all natural resource extraction, we have a good and mature policy framework.

    As I mentioned earlier CAG uses low/marginal cost of CIL for arriving the cost for this so called scam while it uses Delhi’s sky-rocketing land prices for the so called Delhi Airport scam.

    Also refer to my above post for the selection process.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak G,

    Good morning.

    I don’t quite understand the concept of marginal cost. I won’t bother getting into it either. You say, we have a good and mature policy framework for natural resource extraction, please explain it in a lay man’s language. We can keep politics aside for a while.
    Have you really answered my questions a) and b)?
    I’d come to Delhi Airport scam in a bit.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak G,

    Good morning.

    I don’t quite understand the concept of marginal cost. I won’t bother getting into it either. You say, we have a good and mature policy framework for natural resource extraction, please explain it in a lay man’s language. We can keep politics aside for a while.
    Have you really answered my questions a) and b)?
    I’d come to Delhi Airport scam in a bit.

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  • vijay !

    were you and ravi there?

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  • Anonymous

    Gopi and Shenoy, thanks for welcome. I did not read your previous invitations to me.
    Now Ishwar and others, pl you dont talk like bacchas. Thackeray and clan are thugs thru and thru. They thrive on Mumbais problems of over crowding and act only for Marathi manoos. They vandalise property and attack vulnerable outsiders. I say they are almost as bad as Owaisi.
    Good day to you Mohan, Vijay and others

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Thanks Balwinder.

    You are wanted dead and alive here !

    If you see a sad and defeated man on Havelock street, with jehad written on his undies… say our hullo to Ravi !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hehe our Lahori Ravi is one sad twisted soul. What happens to our Dr Shan cigulategyris, is he still around licking white man bottom? Oh this blog was mad place hehe

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good to hear from you after a long time. I hope you are keeping in best of your health. If not very often please try visiting sometimes, It is always nice to hear from veterans of this blog.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Balwinderji,

    we did miss your light hearted banter, Punjabi Ishtyle.

    Yes, Raj Thakre is an evil and a proponent of Maratha supremacy.

    But, in the present situation, when the Mumbai police are soft pedaling the vandalism and molestation of women police, what he did as a challenge to the police commissioner is worth appreciating.

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  • pankaj#1

    Friends;
    I am coming to this blog after a long time. Last one month and more was very hectic. went to India,met friends and relations. Came back to North America. At Las Vegas, had a very hectic schedule. Saw Hoover Dam, saluted those brave hearts. Dam was built in 1930s, not much present day technology available at that time, conditions are so adverse, that, I said Toba, even as a visitor and those guys worked there? Project was finished 2 years ahead of scheduled time. Remembered Maruti and Gurgaon. Saw Grand Canyon, it is Grand, thought of our heritages being squandered and mismanaged, their management is superb. Saw the best show available at strip, remembered Kamla circus of childhood, felt depressed, those guys and girls were gems, did not get government or social support. Now, Bas… like Beni Prasad, Mulayams and Mayawatis are our karndhaars. What a quirk of fate.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Doc pankaj so nice to see you also drop by. Now only ppl missing are rajiiv, mishraji, Ashish, manohar, prabhat, rizwan, anyone know where ther are?

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Praji
    Yes, I am also missing all those persons. I have been warned not to go foing in house and out side, but what the heck.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji, Balwinderji,

    yes, both of you are welcome. We did miss you, particularly Balwinderji, because pankaj ji did visit the blog even if briefly and less often.

    We do miss Rajeev, Rajiiv, Ashish, Dr.Mishra and Rizwan. And also, equally, Shaan.

    Prabhat, Prahlad and Sanjay are very unlikely to report for duty here anymore. But, we are happy to have, in their place Pathakji, who does a splendid job of defending the indefensible: The dynasty, the dynasty’s disfunctional government and the disfunctional government’s brain-dead existence.

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  • pankaj#1

    All,
    Raj Thakrey Jindabaad.
    Would love to chonch ladao with manohar and/ or PathakG. BTW, went to HT corporate office and tried to meet you there, but was thwarted by overjelous security.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    For chonch ladao, you have to be around when the issues are discussed.

    [ Couldn't you manage to talk to Vinodji over the intercom ? You should have sent in a request saying an old friend from USA paying a surprise visit ]

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    So the present dispensation has succeeded in bringing Affrica/ Chatoic states to India? Ably supported by Vinod and Sardesais? M.F. Hussains of all hues had a field day. Few SMS by mischief mongers was enough to cause upheavel?? That is UPA.
    Narendra tum kahan ho, ukhad pheneko in namardon ko. Nest nabood kardo in haramiyon ko. Hum tumarhe saath hain.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Bring those Owaisis and Aligarhis to North America.
    Pajame maain peshaab na kardi to….

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    vijay ! Reply:

    In India these Owaisis are worshiped because they can divide society along religious lines and the Congress believes they will deliver votes to them like a shepherd leading sheep.

    Anybody who talks to him— INCLUDING ALL JOURNALISTS AND MEDIA PEOPLE– WILL be higly deferential to him. Thye will call him Owaisi sahab and even bend all questions to please him.

    In some ways he has pushed the journalists back by his scare of getting angry and his threat that he can create communal tensions.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, Pankaj ji, Mohan,
    Remember he slapped Taslima Nasreen and asked his Razakar goons to kill her, when she had come to Hyderabad?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes,

    our secularism is so weak, so sissy, so afraid of Islamic fundoo bullies that it can only sit and wring its hands in false despair.

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  • Anonymous

    Never criticize your wife for her shortcomings or when she does something wrong. Always bear in mind that because of her shortcomings and weaknesses, she could not find a better husband than you.

    Good morning friends.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Also, she is not able to fix you on your various escapades.

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  • Anonymous

    Yesterday I had posted a link where Congress is offering houses in Gujarat.
    Here is an article on the same how Congress is trying to misguide/fool the people of Gujarat in guise of offering them houses.
    ——-

    Congress pulls a scam in Gujarat.

    http://www.niticentral.com/2012/08/congress-pulls-a-scam-in-gujarat.html

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    KuldeepSingh Reply:

    If promising low cost houses is a scam then all poll promises are scams whether from Congress or BJP. Did the writer talk about any specific scam part except in the headline ? It’s not necessary that the scheme must be operational. Since there are limited number of houses ( 3,00,000) are being promised, the distribution of forms is necessary for allotment through lottery. Even you have not talked about any specific scam while talking about the news.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I said that Congress is trying to misguide/fool the public of Gujarat.
    It is the writer of the article who sees scam in this promise. I would
    still say that this is a brilliant move by Congress which will get them
    many votes. It is altogether another matter whether they will keep their promise.

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  • Anonymous

    TAJENDER, hehe want to know where he is? He is on PTH Pakistan Tea House on the latest article by RHR. He was just caught by me impersonating someone called ahem. Malum nahin how many secret identities he has trolling everywhere.
    On serious note, incidents like Assam violence make us look bad in muslim world and motivate more terrorists to attack India. Law and order must be first priority, India forgets that.
    i think, sadly, MODI FOR PM, no other choice possible

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  • Anonymous

    The government says that it is ready to discuss “coal gate” scandal.

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  • Anonymous

    We should expand Vinod’s call to put country above party – time to discontinue these nationwide strikes puting citizens at unbelievable inconvenience.

    PSU Bank employeees – unbelievably well paid segment – are on strike countrywide. They do this every two years.

    So also, so many other organized ones.

    On putting country above party, guess what UPA serious discussion was before the Coalgate confusion and adjournment – how to amend the constitution to provide proportional promotion to the disadvantaged in government services – This while Assam is burning, this while NE students/employees re driven away from other states, this while protestors were burning public property in Lucknow, Mumbai, Pune.. The list goes on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Earlier quotas for admission in schools and colleges, qoutas for jobs, now quotas for promotions. Wondering what will come next that will fetch votes?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    in my 35 years of bank service, I have the unique record of not having gone on strike even a single day!

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  • pankaj#1

    Engrich;
    No problem with Aliggarians per se. My problem is with people like Owaisi and his ilk. Aliggarians share more than its natural quota of fundoos. They were also in the forefront of Pakistani movement.

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  • Dr Mishra

    DEEP SEA WRECK DIVING IN MALTA
    ——————————————————-
    Beloved praaji, thanks for your email. Glad to know your health has improved but sadly I will not be able to participate in this debate as I am on holiday. But nice to see Shoeb, Gopi, Shenoy, Vijay, Mohan, Ishwar, Pankaj and even engrich going strong.
    belated happy independence day all- I am now an advanced deep sea diver qualified by PADI and am into exploring wrecks- ships sunk in WW2. Exciting and dangerous hobby haha
    I learned a lot on this blog in the past, and hope to come back more fully one day. Believe it or not I am typing this from a cybercafe in Sliema waterfront run by- yes you guessed it- a nice Gujrati family. Can you believe it- Indians everywhere, even in off the beaten track Malta. Cheerio all, and welcome Kuldeep SINGH nice to see new blood

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Welcome back Dr. Mishra.

    Have you manged to see the wrecks of HMS Hellespont, Eddy or St. Angelo yet?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Dr Mishra must have defeinately seen one wreck…

    One broken drunken man, walking hand in hand with his male lover,

    Muttering jehad … jehad…. rape… 5000 rape… 10,000 rapes., one million rapes… subah shaam rape… rape hi rape… jehad jehad,,,

    yes, ravi and Engrich walking hand in hand… on a beach in Malta…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    F*A*N*T*A*S*T*I*C

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well thanks!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Welcome back. Good to hear after a long time from you and Balwinder Praji. Enjoy your diving and if by any chance you happen to find any old
    treasure while diving don’t forget to share with your fellow bloggers.
    And yes, we Indians are everywhere.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr.Mishra,

    welcome back to the blog, even if for a brief interlude.

    I am sorry that you are wasting your time 20000 leagues under the sea looking for wrecked ships.

    Please immediately visit India. The MMS-Sonia Gandhi ship is all but wrecked and in a few days time it will go down under.

    Since it is heavily laden with loot of $2.5 Trillion, it will sink fast.

    SO HURRY. ……..PLEASE.

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  • Anonymous

    I won’t like to see any one from the BJP on prime time TV even remotely talking about coal-scam tonight. It is shameful to shy away from a debate in the parliament and then show up on TV doing exactly the same thing.

    The Congress is out blaming the NDA and other opposition ruled state CMs for having opposed the auctioning of coal-blocks. The BJP could do well by participating in the debate in parliament tomorrow morning and exposing the PMO’s role. Manmohan Singh is under no pressure to resign – not allowing parliament sessions solves no purpose.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    That is why I always suspect that all are in collusion. BJP’s demand of
    resignation is ridiculous, they know very well that PM will never resign.
    Sab saale chor hain.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    They shouldn’t have started taking a high moral ground if they knew they were themselves involved (however marginally). Of course, the coal blocks were allocated to the favourites in a non-transparent manner and it clearly served no purpose for which it was envisaged at the first place – i.e. to make coal available to meet its ever growing demand which the Coal India Ltd was unable to meet.

    The fact is – most of the coal blocks have been acquired by private companies who haven’t even started mining. Some of them gathered them and are sitting pretty on it. Clearly, there was no urgency to have them allocated and we could have waited for a few more years till the time we had made changes to the MMDR act allowing competitive bidding.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You never really followed the basic questions that I had posed few days about this so called coal scam.

    1) Starting 2005, just after UPA1 took over, the opposition states opposed the auction process. And they gave it in writing and it’s on record.

    2) Major coal blocks are in opposition ruled states.
    [ There must be something sinister about NDA ruling most of the mineral rich states ! ]

    3) The screening committee comprised of the Chief Secy / Govt. representatives and bureaucrats from these ( opposition ) states. Naturally, the committee was heavily tilted in favour of the NDA rukked states.

    4) Small players like you and me can’t get these kind of contracts even if we knew PM or Sonia’s driver or cook. The top industrial houses of this country bagged these contracts. If reliance can raise billons of rupees from the market promising power projects, there is no way a Govt. bureaucrat can doubt their intention. Same with Tata etc.

    5) CAG very lovingly takes the “market price” for Delhi Airport project, but uses ” Low Cost ” of Coal India for so called coal scam while calculating the LOSS.

    Very discerning thought, infact.

    Well there is no way of knowing if the fish drank water !!

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Pathak G;
    Your comments make sense and are nonsense at the same time. Howcome you defend indefensible all the time? Please call a spade as spade to be taken seriously. I am not a troll, I will castigate anyone and everyone, whom I see as working against interests of India. Can engage with you on any topic,BTW, I know, who you are.
    HaHa.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please let me know who he is? It would double my fun.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ishwar;
    PathakG is a respectable person of integrity. Baaki cheejain, chhupi rahana chahiye.

    Anonymous Reply:

    1) Does the UPA govt. takes all the decisions based on NDA govt. suggestions and opposition?

    2) Major coal blocks are in NDA ruled states – if Congress can’t win there, its their problem.

    3) Was the allocation fair? How were the applications shortlisted and blocks allotted, the CAG points to a lack of transparency there. CVC has already asked the CBI to look into it.

    4) Agree 100%.

    5) As everyone is saying, the figures are not sacrosanct, however, it is wrong to say that there has been no scam and all this is hot air. Someone has benefitted and the alocation should be cancelled as was the case with 2G.

    The day Subramaniam Swamy decided not to touch the case, I knew there is nothing in the report that could be good enough to nail the PM.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Like on Salman Khan rides investments worth 500 crores,
    On Manmohan Singh rides salaries and perks of 550 MPs worth 2000 crores. So nobody benefits by his quitting now.

    There is also the possibility that he may even go further down on the “badnaami” scale, which is all to the advantage of the BJP.

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  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS…………………………….BREAKING NEWS
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    WHAT THE MAINSTREAM/NATIONAL MEDIA IS TOO EMBARRASSED TO REPORT
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Ever since the exodus of NorthEastern Indians began on 15th August, Bangalore bore the brunt of the problem, because it had the highest number of students, BPO workers, IT professionals, fashion Industry personnel and even security staff from the North East, amongst the five cities of Mumbai, Pune, Chennai, and Hyderabad, besides of course Bangalore.

    From the 16th August, when the gravity of the situation dawned upon the people and also the leaders, the RSS took the lead in trying to prevail upon the departees, who otherwise wouldn’t budge, because they were scared to death.

    The RSS deployed 250 volunteers in full uniform, daily from morning to midnight, without break, in disciplined shifts, to talk to the North Eastern friends. They were also accompanied by the Dy.Chief Minister, Ashoka and Law minister, Suresh Kumar, who camped in the Railway Station for 13 hours continuously, without giving up on their efforts. The volunteers and the ministers had met more than 20,000 people who made the exodus.

    The trains, both regular and special, each carried upwards of 4000 passengers, who were given food packets and drinking water as well as soft drinks, the supply of which was arranged by contributions from charitable and philanthrophic institutions, including Jain Samaj, Iskcon etc.

    The train passengers were taken good care of by RSS volunteers at Chennai, Vijaywada, Puri and Kolkatta too. The whole operation was performed with clock work precision, without giving scope for chaos, confusion and glitches in the supply chain.

    But the whole exercise, officially as well as organisationally, may not have achieved much in dissuading the people on the run, but nobody, including the congress opposition, could fault the state government for not trying enough. Even the ever inimical Bharadwaj, the governor, was all praise for the administration and the police, who did in fact stem the tide and even reversed it in good time.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Our country is secular and our government jointly with our media
    always try their best to keep the secular image of our country intact.
    By praising RSS and condemning minorities will send a wrong signal
    to the world and we may be seen as Non-secular hardliners. That is the
    only reason our intelligent patriotic media rightly reports only such news
    which should not spoil our great secular image.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Zia in his blog twisted the whole RSS thing to make them responsible for the panic in someway

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  • Anonymous

    Auction of coal blocks will hit industry, Oppn said in 2005

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/auction-of-coal-blocks-will-hit-industry-oppn-said-in-2005/991902/

    ====

    Shenoy’s FEDERALISM at play.
    Time for the new convert to jump in white shoes wearing neon goggles” MY GOGGLES IS DARKER THAN COAL”.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    PathakG;
    defending weaks and unprotected people is a noble thing. defending known corrupts, coming from ruling elite is indefensible. I will not put all the blame on you as I am not in the hustle and bustle of Indian politics but I feel, here picture gets clearer from afar or is it getting blurred??

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj, please share who you know/think PathakG really is.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ishwar;
    I like your hard hitting posts. You are an intelligent person. Your surmise is correct. Many people have said, parde main rahane do…..

  • Anonymous

    CAG, Credit and Credibility

    TFR : Truth To Falsehood Ratio : Less than 10%

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/cag-credit-and-credibility/991197/4

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not an auditor or an expert in reading financial reports, but after reading this article it seems that what I had suspected is most probably happening. CAG comes up with report of a loss in huge number. Easily some holes can be poked in this report after a cursory scrutiny and the actuall loss figures will come down by 60-70% but still a reasonably large number. Government will question the credibility of the CAG, opposition does not allow to have any constructive discussion in parliament by just demanding resignation of PM. There will be few talk shows on TV in which members of ruling government and opposition will blame each other and after some time everything will be forgotten.
    Meanwhile, other serious matters like Assam, Mumbai riots , exodus of North Eastern Indians is kept in sideline by the media. Gradually my doubt is being removed and I think that all are in collusion to loot our country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Once I urged one of my very successful industrialist friend to “professionalise” his organisation. His reply was quite revealing. He said he does not plan to retire soon. If I consider him to be unprofessional, then even if he hires 500 professionals, his one unprofessional decision can nullify all sane and professional advices from these industry professionals and none of them would object fearing losing their jobs.

    Same issue here. Lead auditors come up with findings which are over-ruled, forced to sign on the cover note without showing the changes. Even sometime they are forced not to interact with the ministry whose account they audit. Perhaps it’s time for another CAG to supervise this CAG.

    This CAG heads 58,000 professionals.

    What value degradation !

    Will we be needing a Lokpal to supervise another lokpal ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I learn that he is not a graduate, he never passed IAS and is thoroughly unprofessional, not knowing which side is credit and which is debit

    Anonymous Reply:

    You missed the point.

    If the top guy is irrational, any rational observations and decisions by the managers below him can become irrational.

    BTW, my friend is an Engineer from IIT.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    gustaki maaf, but you too missed my point, which is that Vinod Rai has NOT passed the IAS exam, which makes his entry into the service and the subsequent rise in positions all fraudulent.

    Yah main nahin keh rahaa hoon. This is your government telling the nation.

    Anonymous Reply:

    First draft report quoting 10 times the said figure is leaked to get the attention.

    Once attention is drawn, a quite burial of that figure does not matter much. By then the damage is already done.

    Presentation to PAC can be delayed thus keeping the issue burning and giving the opposition undue advantage.

    What kind of Auditing system and professionalism are we talking when the CAG re-evaluates its own projection just in 3 months ?

    It hasn’t done any good to the country. The country has lost its sheen because of these arbitrary reports.

    Similar or even more damage would be done by the all-powerful Lokpal in future.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right, Pathakji.

    Vinod rai hasn’t done the country any good, because Sonia is India and India is Sonia and showing Sonia’s government corrupt is showing disrespect to the country. As to facts, facts get changed when new information comes to the fore.

    If you are shocked by the volume of the fraud, slash it as much as you want. That will still leave the congress face and hands kaala.

    Anonymous Reply:

    When something re-occurs “consistently”, a pattern emerges.

  • Anonymous

    A lady walked into a drug store and told the pharmacist she
    needed some cyanide.

    The pharmacist asked, “Why in the world do you need cyanide?”

    she said that she needed it to poison her husband.

    The pharmacist’s eyes got big and he said, “I can’t give you cyanide to kill your husband!

    That’s against the law! I’ll lose my license..and we both will end up in jail”
    The lady reached into her purse and pulled out a picture of her husband having dinner in a restaurant with pharmacist’s wife.

    The pharmacist looked at the picture and replied,

    “Well, You didn’t tell me you had a prescription”

    Good morningg friends

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  • Anonymous

    Olympics bronze medalist, Mary Kom says she would like to shift to Bangalore as “Bangalore’s people are gentle and helpful. ALso the climate in Bangalore is very good”.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Tendulkar didn’t gift a BMW to Saina.
    He merely presented.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I also know it for a fact, because I never expected Tendulkar to be driven by his heart. He is a hard headed businessman.

    What I pointed out is the patent inequity of it all.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What I read was that he had gifted BMW to Saina and her coach
    Gopichand

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You read only the headline. ( bad journalism )

    Anonymous Reply:

    I thought only my English was poor but it seems that the people who reported this are not better than me.

    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/sachin-tendulkar-gifts-bmw-car-to-saina-nehwal/283606-5-23.html

    Anonymous Reply:

    …..
    The felicitation function was organised by Vice President of Andhra
    Badminton Association Chamundeshwari Nath, who honoured the city girl by
    buying her the luxurious car.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The way the news was reported gave a wrong impression.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That’s why I said Bad Journalism.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Bad journalism, poor badminton and lousy cricket.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Bad journalism …or an inept news desk ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    ab yeh bhi bataayiye ki BMW kissne di.

    Anonymous Reply:

    AP State Federation.

  • Anonymous

    “Gujarat 2002 upset and shook me up. Many Tweeters have sincerely tried to convince me that Narendra Modi was not responsible. I, sincerely, have not been convinced so far, since I have seen stories with evidence and footage that show the opposite. But an article like this one by Setalvad-Anand is enough to turn me into what is called an Internet Hindu. India cannot afford to have different rules of engagement based on people’s religion, caste or gender. I believe that is enshrined in our Constitution. Destroying the Constitution for a vote-bank is worse corruption than black money. An incendiary article by Setalvad-Anand can do as much damage as violence in Azad Maidan. To paraphrase Arun Shourie: This is bending over backwards.”…….Madhu Trehan in Indian Express.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/bending-over-backwards/991200/0

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A very good article. What can we expect from the likes of Teestas
    who had tutored the witnesses to give false testimonies. Sadly there are
    many people who wll swear by the honesty of this lady. The article written
    by Teesta and Anand instead of healing the wounds it creates more chasm between the two communities.

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  • Anonymous

    20% of banned hate sites put up by Hindu groups :

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/20-of-banned-hate-sites-put-up-by-Hindu-groups/articleshow/15609191.cms

    ========
    In these posts doctored images or videos showing alleged atrocities against tribal Bodos by Muslims have been tagged with provocative captions and point to extremist Hindu groups trying to fish in troubled waters to target minorities and fan tensions.

    —-

    Agencies have also found clues indicating a large number of SMSs that spread panic among the northeast Indians living across the country were also generated by fringe Hindu groups. The panic led to a mass exodus of people from the north-east from several cities, including Pune, Bangalore and Chennai.

    —–
    A recent input from Bangalore about three women planning to bomb a train turned out to be a red herring. Later, the input was traced to an activist of Bajrang Dal.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Pathak G Pathak g…

    You given the spin which I had predicted long time back

    Owaisi is innocent.

    The bangladeshi rioters are innocent

    The SMS spreaders are RSS

    Rahul got all the NE students back. Shinde displayed exemplary leadership Advani should be blamed… And of course RSS

    Pathak G … only you are going to believe this. And of course the COngress party beign reduced to 60 seats in 2014… as per HINDUSTN TIMES MINT POLL !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You don’t even read before punching the keys or doing a Jitendra in white shoes jig !
    Can’t you see it’s a report without my comment ?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    jumping Jeetu always had good battles with Prem Chopra, Pran and madan puri, the villians of his time.

    You can choose which one suits you best. Now the fact is you have given us a choice of 3 PMs in your postings…

    a) Baby G, Priya G and Robert G

    Can you tell us how your projected PMs reacted during the time of crises. When the RSS came forward to help the North easterners… all the cowards hid. Now the crises is over… they are going to blame the RSS…

    Yeh hai India meri Jaan…. !

    Anonymous Reply:

    When any thread is posted and you initiate any discussion on that, stick to the discussion.

    I prefer a clean thread for myself and all other blogs to follow.

    vijay ! Reply:

    As per you the thread is clean in case Advani , RSS and BJP is blamed.

    Of course it becomes dirty in case the Hathkanda of Digviansh is revealed… the incompetence of Shinde is exposed, the lack of vision of Baby G is talked about…

    Pathak G my senoir brother… this is a democracy thanks to us Indians. Let us, humble Indians have a voice too

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do not mix up the subject of the thread. It’s easier to follow the sequence of discussion.
    You can always start a new thread if you want to discuss a new subject other than what is being discussed in that particular thread.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But, Pathakji, if you consider the population of Hindus, 80% of India is Hindus, exceeding 1 billion and only 20% hate sites? That too without any authenticity as to the figures?

    The media is also silent on the deaths of 5persons who died at Jalpaiguri after being thrown out of the Guwahati train from Bangalore.

    My information is that these were Bangladeshi infiltrators, returning along with the NE Indians to cause trouble in Assam.

    Why this kind of selectivity?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like you haven’t read 80-20 theory.
    80% get bad name because of silly 20%.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are absolutely right on this one, Pathakji.

    because of the silly 20% mulsims, the whole of India has got bad name.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Remember that when you demonise indian Muslims.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I hardly need to demonise our Muslim brethren.
    They are doing it themselves and very well too.

    But, I feel your congress leaders have ruined the peacefulness of India’s Muslim community by allowing uncontrolled entry to Bangladeshi infiltrators.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you think you are changing for the better, then you are welcome.

    vijay ! Reply:

    jumping Jeetu always had good battles with Prem Chopra, Pran and madan puri, the villians of his time.

    You can choose which one suits you best. Now the fact is you have given us a choice of 3 PMs in your postings…

    a) Baby G, Priya G and Robert G

    Can you tell us how your projected PMs reacted during the time of crises. When the RSS came forward to help the North easterners… all the cowards hid. Now the crises is over… they are going to blame the RSS…

    Yeh hai India meri Jaan…. !

    Anonymous Reply:

    PathakG,

    Vijay didn’t spoil the thread – it’s you. His post is completely related to the issue. All he is saying is that the Congress paid media has tried to add a spin. What action has the govt. taken against Owaisi? How many channels have ran primetime debate to seek action against people of his tribe? The same channels go overboard asking for justice for Jessica and Ruchika!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    If the media does what you are suggesting than that will
    ’spoil’ our image of secularism.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sort it out between you and Vijay who gave the spin.
    Me or the media ?

    vijay ! Reply:

    Spin is okay…. no ball action like Murlitharan, makes spin unpalatable…

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you post something without condemning the spin therein, it would suggest that you agree with it. If not, at least enjoying the deliberate attempt to mislead.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Posting news and giving active logic are two different things.
    BTW what did you find objectionable in the article ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    The headline

    Anonymous Reply:

    That’s pure numerical, based on the number of sites that have been tracked so far.

    Anonymous Reply:

    How about replacing 20% Hindu with 80% Muslims?

    Anonymous Reply:

    The Muslim news has already been published and known.

    Anonymous Reply:

    where?

    Anonymous Reply:

    In a private note of the home secretaty to the HM!

    Anonymous Reply:

    As recommended by you in the past, I don’t care about the Pakistanis. I am talking about the Muslims of local variety – Owaisi is the specimen.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Did I care about Pakistani?
    I was thinking about my beloved Hindu brothers.

    Anonymous Reply:

    In a panel discussion on NDTV, Barkha Dutt was almost embarrassed to even mention his name!

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    PathakG’
    A simple question. Are there illegal muslim infiltrators in Assam? Yes or no. If yes, what GOI has done about it?? if GOI and its minions will not do anything, has the Bodo people rights to defend their home and hearth. Yes or No???

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  • Anonymous

    THOUGHT FOR THE DAY
    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    When you need advice, everybody is ready to help,

    but when you need help, everybody gives you only advice.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Good One, Shenoy sahab.

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  • Anonymous

    Stock market has not reacted negatively to this news of Coal gate. Since
    almost two weeks markets are going without any significant interruption.

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  • Anonymous

    Coal scam: We will gherao residences of
    PM, Nitin Gadkari, says Arvind Kejriwal

    Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/we-will-gherao-residence-of-pm-nitin-gadkari-arvind-kejriwal/1/214320.html

    Alleging that Congress and BJP were hand-in-glove on the coal block allocation issue, erstwhile Team Anna on Thursday announced gherao of the residences of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and BJP chief Nitin Gadkari on Sunday

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gadkari will serve them chai, pakoda.
    Poor guys will go hungry at the PM’s residence.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You think our PM is as poor as the church mouse?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    They are Gadkari’s “apne log”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    Looks like Arvind kejriwal is an avid follower of Vinodji’s blog and he has read your comment about the congress and BJP joining hands in the corruption.

    I think he agrees with you and intends to take action on the basis of what you have written.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You have given me a nice idea. Looks like many people read this blog so I will start advertising products
    of my son’s company here .

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  • Anonymous

    Delhi Airport Scam:

    Lets not mix it up wit the coalgate. the CAG has also objected to the development fee that passengers at the Delhi airport are charged – they pay between Rs. 400 and Rs. 2600, depending on whether they’re flying omestically or internationally. The auditor said this tax was not part of the original contract, and that the fee gives DIAL an undue benefit of over Rs. 3,415 crore. GMR nfra is a majority share holder in DIAL and it has only brought up equity worth 1800 crores.

    Forget the fancy figures. PathakG, please explain who has allowed a change in the OMDA?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    No explanation for corruption. A contract was given without negotiation for 30 years… we are told that sab chalta hai…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely, according to the CAG, a cabinet note issued in 2003 specifically envisaged an initial concession period of 30 years which could be extended by another 30 years subject to “mutual agreement and negotiation of terms”.

    However, the condition envisaged in cabinet note was omitted from operation management development agreement (OMDA) which was signed in April 2006.”This is not only a violation of the commitment in the cabinet note but is also a unilateral and unfair advantage given to DIAL which is detrimental to government interest as it does not provide the government any scope for review of any of the conditions,” the auditor said in its report.

    Use NDA ruled state govt. recommendations/suggestions in allocation of coal blocks because it suits you. Dump their official cabinet decision to favour someone else in changing rules in case of Delhi Airport. Taking moral high ground – huh!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What was the mutual agreement ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I see you haven’t answered the question on allowing a change in the OMDA to allow charging of a development fee yet. Anyways, how did we benefit by extending the lease by another 30 years?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Who is the other Partner?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Of course the govt.

    The point here is: the clause of “mutual agreement and negotiation of terms” was omitted in the agreement. And thus CAG rightly notes:
    “This is not only a violation of the commitment in the cabinet note but is also a unilateral and unfair advantage given to DIAL which is detrimental to government interest as it does not provide the government any scope for review of any of the conditions.”

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please help yourself :

    http://www.deccanherald.com/content/272272/cag-slams-development-fee-concessional.html

    Anonymous Reply:

    The question before the Court was that the Ministry of Civil Aviation issued an order on February 9, 2009 allowing Delhi International Airport Limited (DIAL) to levy a development fee. The question before the apex court was, is the Ministry of Civil Aviation competent to allow DIAL to levy DF. The Court said no.

    Verify yourself…

    http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/logistics/article3785692.ece?homepage=true&ref=wl_home

    Anonymous Reply:

    ……

    We are not saying (it is) a favour to GMR (but) to DIAL, the joint venture.

    What will be the recommendation to Government? Will you ask them to relook OMDA?

    No. We are not suggesting that. We do not think that OMDA can be
    removed. But this is for the future because a lot of other airports are
    coming up.

    Anonymous Reply:

    He is not talking about development fee here. He is talking about land transfer. He clearly says that SC had said no to charging of any development fee.

    The govt. gives you land at a concessional rate, pools in equity, and if there is a cost over-run for whatever reason, why do I have to suffer as a passenger? The cost over-run needs to be taken care by the promoter/builder and can’t be passed on to the users. The govt. has given you enough, at least spare the passengers.

    Anonymous Reply:

    …..

    A two-judge bench held that development fees cannot be levied or
    collected on the basis of just authority letters issued by the central
    government but only if there was clear approval from the airports
    economic regulatory authority. Consequently, Mumbai airport has been
    barred from levying the fees, while Delhi airport will be able to
    continue to levy the fees, reports CNBC-TV18.

    Sidharath Kapur, CFO � Airport at GMR Group said that the Airport
    Economic Regulatory Authority (AERA) has allowed The Delhi International
    Airport Limited (DIAL) to charge airport development fee. However, the
    moot point of the Supreme Court order is the ADF collections should be
    done for upgradation, and modernisation of Delhi airport.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Judge bhi bikane lage? :D :D

    Anonymous Reply:

    You recently met Mamta ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please help yourself :

    http://www.deccanherald.com/content/272272/cag-slams-development-fee-concessional.html
    ==

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well said ishwar. We are seeing abdication of responsibility.

  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Pathakji follows the usual Congress line…. fine.. he is a strong believer in the Congress Party and its promoter family . So he blames the CAG for his reports.. . He would have been happy if the CAG had been like the earlier ones , just looking at expenditure incurred , whether sanctions were taken from the authorities competent to sanction just nitpicking here and there. This is the first CAG who is doing a TN Seshan, who is effectively auditing and revealing the way the this govt has been looting and plundering in the name of Govt autonomy with Policy. He found fault with Gen V K Singh… it is different matter that according to CBI ,Tetra was a ripp- off . But he could not say anything when the SC gave the boot to pretender CVC Thomas . He mocked Anna and Baba Ramdev . He mocks the popular demand for an effective and autonomous Lokpal. He attempts commercial logic for the sweet heart deal with GMR ……but what will he say about what Sunil Arora complaned about Air India .
    He wishes that all authority should be in the hands of the political executive … who can loot and plunder … and may share part of it with those who sing their song. This what UPA2 has been all about .
    All in the government knew there is a dummy PM ….. a Mitte ke Madho ……To Jo Loot Sako Woh Loot.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen Saxenaji,

    very succinctly put. But, I do see one point of Pathakji’s perspective.
    If in the absence of a Lokpal, so many scams are tumbing out of the congress cupboard, what will it be if there is a Lokpal to listen to and look into complaints of corruption against the ministers and MPS?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Each and Every so called scam is falling apart. One by one.

    But you are right. With a Lokpal around even your allegation about Shyama Prashad will be taken up immediately and the poor chap will be thrown out without waiting for the final finding. By the time, the truth is out, the damage would have been done.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Why Shyam Pershad?Why not Mohan das?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Because despite your strong faith and belief in Shyama Prashad, it still can happen.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If not A, how about B, ok …B was not there…then P ! Oh I wasn’t thinking deeply about P…then what about X? okkk ..X is not appealing…perhaps XX…okkk….XX wasn’t really a case at all…then what about *** !!!!!!!!!

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    He He… Hee Hee… Ho Ho

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Saxena sahab;
    This He He..Hee Hee…Ho Ho, made me laugh to no end.
    Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    Mumbai police commissioner, Arup Patnaik is unceremoniousl;y shunted out.

    Till yesterday, all our seculars were lauding the exemplary manner in which he surrendered to the terrorists in the Mumbai riots of 8th August, in which women police were molested, their dresses torn, guns snatched and Amar Jawan Memorial destroyed.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Shenoy Saab
    Patnaik had to go in either case. If he had taken action against the Rioters ..the vote-bank would have made him go . That is the hazard of being a top civil servant in a corrupt and immoral political system. He chose to follow the the govt line and did not allow his force to act even when the rioters were looting , molesting police women , snatching arms, firing , killing , destroying national monuments .
    Faced with the hobson ’s choice … I do think it would have been better if he had acted like a policemen , acting aganst the contravention of law…
    ….But do contrast this episode with what happened in Delhi when the then Poice Commsr mounted a midnight attack on women old men and children when they were sleeping at the Ram Lila Maidan . He did it … because they were soft targets and did not constitute a vote-bank. For that heroism we can be sure he shall be rewarded soon by this govt.
    That is how vote-bank politics works in India.

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  • Anonymous

    Another example of lazy work either by CAG or ToI??

    The story says: In case of a nuclear accident in India at present, the maximum fine that can be
    imposed by the regulator on an offending nuclear plant is Rs 500. “The maximum amount of fine (Rs 500) was too low to serve as a deterrent against
    such infringements,” the CAG said after a detailed audit of the regulator which
    is responsible for review of safety aspects of nuclear power plants and of all
    radiation facilities across the country.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Now-CAG-focuses-on-lax-nuclear-safety/articleshow/15608239.cms

    From what I know, this information is incorrect. I am yet to figure out who has missed some zeroes CAG or ToI?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The press always misses zeroes. And the worse is eonomic/trade press!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The ToI is sensationalising the story. Interestingly, the CAG report indeed talks about Rs 500, but that is only in context of powers of AERB. We have enough safeguards. The BJP ensured this is Nuclear Liability Act passed by parliament in 2010. As per the act,
    the maximum amount of liability in case of each nuclear accident at 500 crore (US$90.5 million) to be paid by the operator of the nuclear plant, and if the cost of the damages exceeds this amount, Special drawing rights up to 300 million will be paid by the Central Government.

    We can relax!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Very soon, like south korea, India too would get into the nuclear trade and start supplying nuclear equipments to the rest of the World particularly in Africa etc.
    Then India too would be liable. So there was a debate what would be this figure….I guess this 500 M is debatable.

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  • Anonymous

    The “energy challenge” may be the biggest challenge facing India – Washington Post

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/satisfying-indias-thirst-for-power-could-be-nations-biggest-challenge/2012/08/22/65f6c6d2-e21c-11e1-98e7-89d659f9c106_story.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The need evaluation, strategy for power was done six years back. Now we are really into the execution mode. Honestly, the protracted approach already taken has started bearing fruit. Every state is moving close to the power surplus level. So, it’s just matter of time. I am not sure if power needs any further critical discussion.

    More than power, we need an integrated approach to the agriculture.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    I dont hink that is happening. A state like UP produces 13000 MW of power for 18 crore people. Power cuts happen for hours and hours beyond NOIDA. Industry is collapsing. Delhi… has long power cuts… at 3500 MW for 1.5 crore people

    I think you are way off target on this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Surprisingly, the lowest power tariff in UP has created the maximum power deficit where as Delhi with highest power tariff has lowest power deficit.

    This actually reflects the priority in the Governance. In last few years, we all know the priority in UP was different.

    Hope things to improve with the new Govt. Though I doubt. We are too close to the next election and the Govt in UP may not have this as a real priority. I think things might change after 2015.

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Pathak

    Things are getting worse. One factory I had built has been vacated by its owner.

    Why?

    Under the previous government they had to pay up local goons once in three months. Now they pay up three times the amount every month.

    Anil ambani’s power plant in Dadri may come up with 10,000 MW power. But it is likely that he may ask for a tariff which people of UP wont pay

    Anonymous Reply:

    People would resist initially, but eventually pay. They will pay regularly once supply is assured.

    vijay ! Reply:

    In Delhi we pay quiet a bit. For my office I pay roughly 9 Rs a unit after all the charges. I guess if it is fair billing then it is okay.

    Enrons can happen in case the process is not trnasparent.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak-

    “It is just a matter of time” — Is it geological time or 3-5 years?

    All the news coverage here (may not be true/may be biased) is that every big house/hospital/BPO centre/factory has its own power generators because state does not have reliable electricity except Gujrat.

    If what you state is true, it is a great great news indeed, assuming the time frame is short term.

    The only way India can meet aspirations of its people is with adequate energy.

    Food supply also is important – assuming the country grows at 10% or close, the country will have the wherewithal to import food. Energy cannot be imported.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In next 5 years we would see a remarkable difference. There could have been some augmentation by now but for the environment ministry. Though, well intented, the environment ministry went for “no-go” policy for mining in heavily forested areas. In India, we still heavily depend on coal for our energy.
    Nuclear Power industry is yet make its presence felt.
    Alternative energy like wind, solar are still very marginal.
    If executed with due diligence, nuclear can really play the lead role.
    We need atleast 100000 MW for a sustainable 9% growth !

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Binoy

    Somewhere I feel the world is not matured enough to go for nuclear power with Fukishama and Talban all around…

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  • vijay !

    Vijay Kumar manages to take on the land mafia…. and wins.,..!

    Without firing a shot!

    is it possible?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You must have inspired Mumbai police commissioner, Arup Patnaik to deal with the terrorists in a non-violent, passive, silently suffering even if utterly humiliating way. But he lost the job, while you gpot the piece of land back for your friend!

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Well I hope… I have !

    As for me… I have done something which I hated to do but had to…. Got in the UK embassy to write to the top officers in the police and administration….

    Suddenly we see efficent policing and maybe just maybe… some results.

    Wish Indian police respected Indians as much.

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  • vijay !

    Pathak G my pal…!

    Sonia G has announced Congressis to go offensive so as to hide the loot and chori…

    I hope that is not influencing you…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This kind of silly post comes before , during or after you sat with that cute journo ?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    My cute journo had a link with my favorite paper… the HT

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  • Anonymous

    “A crisis not to be wasted:..

    Agree with my fellow Mallu’s conclusions

    http://www.lensonnews.com/lonspecial/1/2/15947/1/a-crisis-going-waste.html

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  • vijay !

    Vinod Sharma is on TV with Arnab. The question is early elections….

    I am sitting nice cute journo … who says… if electios were held not…. Mulayam will become the PM…

    Time for me to leave India, in case mamta. Mulayam or maya becoem the PM

    I would even welcome Dev Gowda over them

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    Anonymous Reply:

    makes all the sense, Viju!

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Thanks Gopi!

    Mulayam would push India back to 1989…

    Of course maya won’t push us back… but probably put her statue on India gate and raj Ghat and sell all of the Rashtrapati bhavan to a builder…

    And

    and

    and

    Mamta can actually take us back to ….1912.. :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    We need electoral reforms; but it will happen only if the growth continues in the 8% plus range and a large middle class is created.

    Obviously the political class does not want elctoral reforms. There seems to be a deliberate plan to keep the problems festering and keep the growth suppressed, so people will remain poor, there will not be growth in the middle class, and the looters – Congress, SP, Maya, and even elements of BJP – can continue to loot.

    I will not put anything beyond these Rajyadrohis.

  • Anonymous

    A man goes to ATM to withdraw cash.
    .

    1. Pull up to ATM

    2. Insert card

    3. Enter PIN and account

    4. Take cash, card and receipt

    5. Drive away

    Next week he sends his wife to withdraw some cash and deposit a cheque.

    1. Pull up to ATM

    2. Back up and pull forward to get closer

    3. Shut off engine

    4. Put keys in purse

    5. Get out of car because you’re too far from machine

    6. Hunt for card in purse

    7. Insert card

    8. Hunt in purse for grocery receipt with PIN written on it.

    9. Enter PIN

    10. Study instructions.

    11. Hit “cancel”

    12. Re-enter correct PIN

    13. Check balance

    14. Look for envelope

    15. Look in purse for pen

    16. Make out deposit slip

    17. Endorse checks

    18. Make deposit

    19. Study instructions

    20. Make cash withdrawal

    21. Get in car

    22. Check makeup

    23. Look for keys

    24. Start car

    25. Check makeup

    26. Start pulling away

    27. Stop

    28. Back up to machine

    29. Get out of car

    30. Take card and receipt

    31. Get back in car

    32. Put card in wallet

    33. Put receipt in checkbook

    34. Enter deposits and withdrawals in checkbook

    35. Clear area in purse for wallet and checkbook

    36. Check makeup

    37. Put car in reverse

    38. Put car in drive

    39. Drive away from machine

    40. Drive 3 miles

    41. Release parking brake

    [Reply]

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vow.

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  • vijay !

    @ Gopi

    Well I dont think there would be a grand plan to keep India poor. It is about retaining power and making money with power.

    I know one or two senior politicians personally. All of them want to be popular by giving things for free and give a damn of how it effects the growth and efficiency of the country. Their motto is like that of the police. Make money… and get power.

    One of the rather famous Politicians of the country took a fancy for my secretary. I had gone to meet him for submitting a project and he happened to be on the panel.

    Well… he would call up the poor girl at 2 in the night and recite romantic poetry. And then confess that ” he was not getting satisfaction and romance from his wife.. ! ”

    It took some tact to get him away from my poor scared secretary… !

    I think MMS was a decent guy… whose value the COngress never understood and crushed it under its need for getting Baby G onto the top seat…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This guy has one wife or two ?

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  • pankaj#1

    PathakG’
    A simple question. Are there illegal muslim infiltrators in Assam? Yes or no. If yes, what GOI has done about it?? if GOI and its minions will not do anything, has the Bodo people rights to defend their home and hearth. Yes or No???

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Pankaj… mere dost… Pathak G won’t answer this one….

    But I will answer this from you.. on behalf of Pathak G.

    “What did Advani do about bangaldeshi infilterators? Can human beings be teated as cattle ? Modi is beggin from infitrators in Surat. … And Rahul G is now wearing a 3 piece suit and that is more impirtant…!”

    Pathak I apologise in case you feel i am being trivial.. !

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    thanks for your reply.
    yes, present day developments are heartbreaking and then, we have people like pathak G, who are absolving muslims, who perpetrated all this, right from Bodoland to mumbai, lucknow and whereever. he can think of only votes and congress.
    The need of hour is Modi-fication of internal and external policies of India. no such gadbad jhala in Gujrat. all the states, where congress is ruling bore the brunt of muslim lawlessness, here, there will be people, who are hell bent to defend it a la, setalvad- Anand. That is not funny my friend.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    thanks for your reply.
    yes, present day developments are heartbreaking and then, we have people like pathak G, who are absolving muslims, who perpetrated all this, right from Bodoland to mumbai, lucknow and whereever. he can think of only votes and congress.
    The need of hour is Modi-fication of internal and external policies of India. no such gadbad jhala in Gujrat. all the states, where congress is ruling bore the brunt of muslim lawlessness, here, there will be people, who are hell bent to defend it a la, setalvad- Anand. That is not funny my friend.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Pankaj

    Actually we discussed a part of this problem few days back.

    Any border area there will be some migration and infiltration because of the economic disparities and opportunities. It’s like an osmosis process.

    It happens on the mexican border. Maharashtra and karnataka border. Orissa, West Bengal or Andhra border.

    But the point is how this problem becomes acute ?

    For this the blame must be laid on the locals. How ?

    Let’s say some people migrate to a particular place. After doing some odd jobs, they feel like settling down. When they look for a piece of land, they turn to the locals who usually have large piece of unattended land. For them, any price is good. Slowly the demand rises. The locals start becoming rich. Their new found money inspires others and they too start selling the land to others. And we start seeing a new set of colonisers. They slowly start influencing the local economic and political environment. They become assertive. Then the frustration simmers amongst the locals and they burst out.

    It’s true everywhere.

    Even in Delhi. The Gujjars resent people who have bought their land, even after being paid.

    The new settlers or migrants work harder to survive and they prosper because of their hard work. Even now in Delhi, people in Sundar nagar or Civil Lines resent people from Greater Kailash thinking them to be outsiders and with no class. The original inhabitants of Karol Bagh ( many South Indians ) are completely dominated by the refugees from Pakistan who came after the partition. Infact now these punjabi settlers think and deride the same very southIndians who have been living there since 1910 or earlier and treat them like outsiders.

    I bought a piece of land in Koshi, near Almora. Now the locals want their land back after 13-14 years !

    Assam has a slightly different problem. During Bangladesh war India allowed refugees. They are there. Many people from West Bengal who used to work in Govt offices settled down in Assam. Actually for a long time, there have been problem between local Assames and Bengalis. By nature Bengalis are little extrovert and outspoken. They tend to dominate Assames.

    For Bodo problem, I still blame them for their own greed for selling land for easy money and now regretting and feeling frustrated.

    Do I encourage bangladeshi migrants ? No.

    But we need to understand the problem in real sense and find solutions.

    For a moment, think some people knocking your door at the middle of night and abusing for settling down in their country and taking jobs away from them !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Not so afst, pathak.

    This is not same as a guy from kerala taking a job in Delhi or Mumbai and settling there or buying land. India is for all its citizens (except Kashmir where the self hating kashmiri sold out to the Jinnahmen).

    This is a blatant case of illegal immigration from Bangla Desh, fostered and encouraged by the govt and politicians so a permanent voting block and electotral advantage can be created.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    They were actively encouraged by the locals for easy money. Period.

    Anonymous Reply:

    No Pathak, you cannot close your eyes and declare it is night. History cannot be washed away.

    In 1946, Jinnah had declared Assam was in his pocket. Later, when it was not in his pocket, Zulfiker Ali Bhuto declared that the territorial dispute was not only with Kashmir, but also with Assam. Mujibur Rehman had said that Bengla Desh cannot exist/survive without Assam when E Pakistan became Bengla Desh.

    Congress party in Assam, under Dev Kant Baruah, Moinal Haq Chaowdhury (Jinnah’s private secretary who decide to stay back in India) and Fakruddin Ali Ahmed, cabinet minister (who will later become the President of the country) encouraged massive illegal migration to create a permanent vote bank. Dev Kant Baruah, ex CM and later the Congress President (of “India is Indira, indira is India” fame) had the audacity to declare that Congress will always win Assam with the support of Alis (illegal Bangla Deshsi) and Coolies (tea estate workers from West Bengal).

    BP Chaliha was silenced by Indira GAndhi when when he wanted administrative actions to check the unchecked illegal migration. Lt Gen Jameel Muhamed , yes, a General of Eastern command belonging to Muslim religion reported that the unchecked illegal immigration will create a Kashmir like situation in Assam..He was ignored by the Congress central govt..

    Inderjit Gupta , central home Minister, in a May 6 1997 discussion in Lok Sabha said there were 3 million illegal Bangla Deshis in Assam. Lt Gen Sinha, the governor of Assam reported in 1997 that Assam demography is being changed by illegals, and that it will result in a national security issue. 20 congress MPs from NE demanded that he be recalled. His recommendation – a 10 point program – was put in cold storage.

    Taun Gogoi, then CM, demanded that he be withdrawn since he is conducting constitutional impropriety by being vocal on illegal migration.

    You can love Congress, but you have to know Congress.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Tell me honestly which border is undisputable ?

    Thackrey calls karnataka snake for border dispute.

    Telugus and bengalis have over crowded Odisha with border districted barely distinguishable.

    Do we have clear border and peaceful coexistence in Southern states or 7 NE states ?

    The rhetoric statements from the politicians are derived from the “effect ( alignment)” of the settlers , not the “cause” of the settlement.

    Because of the obsession with party X which supposed to be getting vote from these settlers, you are not able to plug the real loopholes and block the infiltration. One needs to understand the problem at the micro level and plug the loopholes.

    Any politician in East pakistan or bangladesh would easily believe Assam ” more on their side” than india and Assam deserved to be with them, whenever they look at the political map of India and see the position of Assam on that map. It doesn’t mean anything to Indians. We can’t do anything about their wishful thinking. They are entitled for their day-dreams.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ” Becuse of the obsession with party X which supposed to be getting vote from. These settlers, you are not able to plug the real loopholes and block the infiltration. One needs to understand the problem at the micro level and plug the loopholes.

    Who is suppose the plug these loopholes? And please not your usual wisecrack reply.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Unless you understand the problem at the micro level , you can not plug the loopholes.

    I just read an article in support of what I talked about early morning :
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Northeast-burning-Illegal-immigrants-with-valid-papers/articleshow/15626211.cms

    Anonymous Reply:

    Tarun gogoi was the CM halfway (in 2001) into Gen Sinha’s governorship (1997- 2003). The use of the preposition “then” may not have been chronological, however, Prafula Mahat, CM in agreed with the contents of the report, unlike the then then Gogoi. (although Gogoi now says there are illegal Bangla Deshis -one who sows reaps))

    Like many problems plaguing this country, the unlimited, unchecked illegal migration to Assam can be attributed to Indira Gandhi and her IMDT act.

    You cannot equivocate internal state border conflicts – such as Thackeray issue with Karnataka border etc to illegal migration from Bangla Desh, unless you are for borderless one country world.

    The root cause of migration from BD was the destituteness of BD. People always migrate for opportunities, be it BDs to India or Mexicans to US. But what would have been drips and drops became a torrent because of the encouragement (IMTD, ration cards, et al) given by the government on our side of the “fence”. And that encouragement was deliberately done for votes, and not for the country. As Vinod Sharma says, the leaders of “then” should have put country above politics.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Prafulla was the CM for 4 years ( of gen Sinha’s tenure ) with a friendly Govt. at the centre and he couldn’t heed to Gen Singha’s advice ?

    Or, Gen Sinha did a quick brainstorming towards the end of his term ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I do not understand what you are aiming at. The law of the land of Assam was IMDT. Neither Gen Sinha nor anybody, including Gogoi could have done anything about it other than follow it.

    Sinha produced a detailed report of its negative impacts eating at the core of Assam. Mahant agreed with the report (that is all he could do, agree or disagree); Gogoi disagreed with the report (and further insinuated that Sinha is indulging in areas he should not).

    You have to stop viewing issues as BJP/Congress, and call a spade a spade.

    This is now a serious national problem; it was a problem created (agree that the root cause is the relative levels of poverty between the two countries) and nurtured by Shrimathi Indira Gandhi and her congress government.
    Obviously this has to be fixed now; a mere blame assignment is not going to resolve.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Recognise a spade.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    you are right all through. Pathakji is all obfuscation and deviation.

    I think Sonia Gandhi has given deep thought to the problem for a full deade and she has come up with a brilliant solution for the problem, which all congressmen, including Pathakji have to implicitly accept.

    She has come to believe that India must be made so poor that there will be reverse migration or ex-filtration.

    I feel she has been largely successful in this endeavour, if you judge it by the way the country is going down hill.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Very telling.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It seems you are mainly interested in diverting the blame from Congress and put that on BJP.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Could you please take that responsibility !
    I know you will do a better job.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Typical Pathak reply.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You can’t stop being Mohan…I can’t stop being myself.

    Anonymous Reply:

    why should Mohan come back to a beggar country?

    Or, possibly, he may wait till the congress party and its supreme leader fully succeed in their plan to make ours the poorest country, in the group of Somalia, North Yemen etc.

    Anonymous Reply:

    He can do a good job being there. He is internet empowered.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @Gopi_Thomas:disqus

    Prafulla Mahant was the CM in 1997 the loving partner of your lovable NDA, not Tarun Gogoi.

    Tarun Gogoi took over on 17th May 2001.

    Long writing giving a semblance of history must have the fact right.

    The deliberate blurr is SOP ?

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Pathak G;
    Thanks for your restrained reply. I was ready for a whirlwind.
    No, I beg to differ from you on your observation. What you are telling me has been told to me decades back by palestinians. it has no parallel. Muslims from bangladesh or pakistan, come in to distort/ destroy this land. They have visceral hatred for this land and people. On this point only, they got their separate state. period. Now, with active encouragement from Congress, read, Fakhruddin and co. congress encouraged bangladeshi muslims settlement for votes, this has been written by your friend Kuldip nayyar, and known to Indians since long. There was an active revolt against GOI by Assames. But GOI is a mighty state and can do, whatever it wishes, desh jaye bhhad main. Today, bodoland/ Assam is burning, tomorrow, almora, your land will burn. Please do not be smug and complacent. Your silence and by it encouragement, this land will be turned into a jahannum. do not look at petty gains. bodos are Indians and trouble makers are bangladeshi- Muslims- who should be selectively evicted from India. period. Please do not be a simplistic by saying Assamese/ bodos are lazy , blah, blah.
    As far as I am concerned, I am more than law abiding citizen of my country and contributing towards its prosperity. people are more than happy to have me here, by any parameter. Do not mix two issues.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How about a backpack tour to Assam ?

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    PathakG;
    Ab aaya majza. Ab kuchh hatthe se ukhade huye lag rahain hain.
    So whether bangladeshis come in trickle or in droves, whether supported by agents or their near ones, who infiltrated before, result is same. indigenous people reducing in numbers in their own land by hostile bangladeshi muslims. Why you are trying to explain this situation,, why do not you raise hue and cry for powers that be to correct the situation?
    OK, it is all for money, but can not authorities stop this money business? and why should politicians be exempted from handcuffs and prosecution, as and when they are found involved?? Please do not say, that they are more equal than others.
    Keralites filling Delhi is perfectly acceptable as they are Indians. Not pakistanis and Bangladeshis.
    It looks that you are no friends of Kuldeep or advani? Any reason for this animosity?? kuldeepji is famous for his love for pakis, why you are belittling him?
    Do you mean professionals are with congress? how you can say that? Traders are BJP supporters? how you can say that??
    PathakG, you could not resist bringing in RSS. Neither in my previous post and not even in your post, RSS was mentioned, then why this RSS phobia on your part?? OK, even if RSS wants a Akhand Bharat, how does it bother you?? Are you pathakG or someone else?? Who gave you this nightmarish idea that RSS will throw Muslims, Dalits, Christian and Sikhs in deep see. Muslims, christians, dalits and sikhs have joined BJP, not very far from RSS. So your fear about RSS is unfounded. RSS is not enemy of muslims either. This hauaa has been created by vested interests, who want to make muslims fearful and then grab their votes. Aap sapanon ki duniya se bahar aajaeeye.
    GOI has done enough of damage to India now BJP will have big task to restore normality and probity in public life. your another friend, rajsardesai has categorically stated that maharashtra congress government was shielding goons covertly and now openly. most of those goons happen to be muslims. so much for your friendship with sardesai??

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, you wanted a whirlwind, nor a sane analysis. You construed my detached analysis as smug and complacent.

    When I wrote my first post, I was focussing on the problem ( the product ), not your state of mind ( consumer focus ).

    BJP had done enough damage to the national psych. The UPA brought in some semblance of stability. The agitation in different forms in last 2 years is to keep the whole country in a state of flux.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If Bangladeshi settlers were Hindu, they would have been given regular asylum, they would have been grateful to India and Indians for the refuge given and wouldn’t have worked against the local population and also against India’s security. They wouldn’t have helped ISI to wreak havoc with our security.

    Moreover, Pathakji, you forgot one very vital fact of history: The Muslims of undivided India demanded a separate state for themselves and got it. Logically they are duty bound to proliferate within the boundaries of their acquired geographical country.

    Just as India is bound to protect and preserve the Muslims who opted to stay on India despite a separate country being created for their own good, India is duty bound to send back any Muslims who infiltrate from Bangladesh.

    Anonymous Reply:

    See it’s not about Bangladeshis vs Indians.

    For BJP and its sympathisers, its always been Hindu vs Muslims.

    Politcal victims are given asylum, not illegal migrants.

    Muslims didn’t ask for a separate land. Some muslim leaders did. [ All Bongs are not naxals or maoist ]

    Anonymous Reply:

    And for congressies and their cronies in the media, it is always votes, votes and votes. Create vote banks and occupy kursi in Delhi and the states.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Tell me if BJP doesn’t want or work for votes.

    Shout aloud if Advani is not dreaming for kursi in Delhi.

    Ask BJP to wind up and reverse-merge with RSS since you think they do not work for votes.

  • pankaj#1

    Raj Sardesai;
    A thoroughbred rascal, has his conscience, pricking him?
    For a city which has seen so much bloodletting in recent years, it is rather strange that Mumbai’s elite still gets shocked every time the city erupts into another bout of mob violence. Let’s get this clear: since the terrible 1992-93 riots — a turning point in the life of the city in which over
    900 people were killed and more than 2,000 injured — more people have died in street violence and terror attacks in Mumbai than any other metropolis in the country.Which is why the recent violence in which two people were killed and several others injured after street protests by Muslim groups should not come as any surprise. Mumbai has been sitting on a tinderbox for years now. There are, in fact, parallels between 1992 and 2012 that suggest little has changed in the past two decades. The first wave of mob fury in December 1992 was much like the violence at Azad Maidan this time. If in 2012, the Assam violence became the trigger point, in 1992 the demolition of the Babri Masjid sparked off the angry outburst. In both instances, the battlelines were pitched as Muslims versus the police, with the men in khaki being singled out as representatives of a biased State machinery, while the media this time suffered ‘collateral’ damage. Trapped in the crossfire is an increasingly impotent and, dare one say, compromised State. In the last 20 years, Maharashtra’s political class that once flirted with criminal gangs has now come to be openly identified with them. It is no secret that the state in the Congress-NCP years has been run by a politician-real estate baron-criminal mafia nexus that has left it susceptible to the slightest pressure. Even the presence of an upright chief minister like Prithviraj Chavan has done little to arrest the sharp decline in political morality…Sorry for this copy and paste. The point I am trying to make is that these even these psuedos are now finding it difficult to white wash the criminal-politician nexus now. What is the way out? A revolution, where political class of present is annihilated and a new system is put in place. India is for everyone, but not for Owaisis, mafdanis and Dauds…. list is endless. In rulings elites kabarein and samadhiyans need to be uprooted and worse…These bas… are trying their best to matiya met a civilization of thousands of years. Shame on them, collectively.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    In recent times, Mumbai is emerging as a hub of muslim radicalism..terrorism. This has to be curbed by all the might of state.If state is unwilling then, SHIV SENA. How you like it?
    Raj Thakrey is right, when he says, muslims from UP, Bihar and such states are coming to Mumbai to indulge in terror. Enough written and anecdotal evidence for it. Do not want, but, if required, make muslims, not eligible to Vote, if the present vote bank politics continue. GROSSLY PROVOCATIVE? So be it. As things are drifting, the day is not far off, when pre partion situation is recreated by these bas… for their petty profits.

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  • Anonymous

    Some thought for dealing with Bangladeshi migrants :

    Permanent Solution :

    1) make India so poor that there is a reverse migration. Even Indians would start migrating to Bangladesh.

    Other Option :
    A ) preventive Measures :

    1) Fence the border to check any further migration.

    2) Start from the top : The Election Commission must make it mandatory that the candidate must declare explicitly that he/she is not an illegal migrant from Bangladesh. If found later, then he will lose the seat in Assembly/Parliament and pay heavy financial cost and could be jailed.

    3) Every Citizen must declare explicitly in their voter ID application form that he is not an illegal migrant from Bangladesh and can lose to right to vote once found it to be untrue.

    4) Every working professional and Govt job holder must sign a declaration form that he is not an illegal migrant from Bangladesh and can lose his job with heavy financial cost once found untrue.

    5) Every citizen must declare in their housing loan and property registration that he is not an illegal migrant from Bangladesh and can lose right to his property with heavy financial cost.

    6) Every citizen must declare in the Bank Account opening form that he is not an illegal migrant from Bangladesh and can lose all his money in the account if found to be untrue.

    Impact :

    This will create aa awareness that migrating to india and settling down there is difficult and not worth the risk.

    B) Corrective Measures :

    1) Increase the jail sentence to 70 years for any illegal Bangladeshi migrant.

    2) Offer amnesty to people who wants to move back in 12 months.

    3) Check the background of each and every criminal caught in any crime. Offer them amnesty if they move across the border on their own in a given time frame or add another 10 years extra jail term ( total 80 years ).

    4) Withhold degree / School leaving certificates of any children if the parents/relatives found to be illegal migrants from Bangladesh.

    5) Offer 20 years less jail term if any illegal migrant identify 5 illegal migrants.

    6) Identify the most recent floating crowd ( 2 years ), check their background rigourously and softly push them back with amnesty offer or severe jail term.. Then move to next round.

    Make it a 10 year programme. Don’t rush in 10 days.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    your solutions to the problems in Assam and North East are good, but with a supiine government, it is a pipe dream.

    Apropos your last post about migration, let me say a couple of facts.

    The border migration between Krnataka and Maharashtra or Kerala and Karnataka are purely India’s internal problems, which the states have it within their laws and powers to accommodate and adjust.

    Bangladesh has no such treaty with India and the infiltration is, unlike osmosis, a one way traffic.

    Mexico and US have several treaties in place and the migration there too is one way-into the US. But there is a vital difference: The Mexicans do not cause a security problem for the US, they do only menial jobs and do not threaten the locals with violence.

    The Bangladeshis come with multiple agendae. They have grabbed the land of the Bodos, have tried to convert people to Islam in order to create demographic changes and most importantly, they have undermined the security of the country by joining hands with the ISI and also other terrorist groups. THEY DO NOT LOVE INDIA.

    They have also moved into other cities like Delhi and Mumbai and caused huge problems for the locals.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If you look carefully I avoided politicians and political parties.

    This could be achieved through a pressure group like Team Anna tried fight for Lokpal. Then no political parties can resist.

    Only problem I see that Bangladesh becoming our sworn enemy and it becoming pre-1971 scene – pakistanis flanking us from both sides.

    But then let it be. We have learnt to live with external threats. One more wouldn’t matter much.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I agree. I too didn’t mention any political parties’ names.
    Bangladesh has never been a friend, whether as East Pakistan or as an independent country.

    Until very recently all the administrations were Islamic in nature, with their level of fundamentalism only varying slightly. It is because of their Bengali language and vulture, BD realised early in its life that Islamic fundamentalism will take it firmly towards ruin and is applying brakes.

    Whatever the mode of remedy,India can ill-afford to delay a solution to the problem.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Correction:Read culture in place of vulture. It is a typo.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hope you noticed that i did not want people to declare themselves just as Indian Citizen. I want them simultaneously declare explicitly not being illegal migrant from Bangladesh.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Pathak G;
    Aap ko chhedne ka fal mil gaya. I knew, you can come up with a solution. yes, this is the solution, I can think of. Please try to understand, I like muslims, but my likable people are disciplined, patriots and of high moral character and they can be from any religion. Infact, in my life now, religion has been relegated far behind, it is humanism, which should prevail.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How do you identify an illegal Bangladeshi? He may have an Indian ration card, Voter ID or passport.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ishwar;
    Every suspected person should be verified by his place of birth, parents place of birth , neighbours, his source of income/ employment etc, which should be verified independently by many people. That is one way. How you can do this for hundreds of thousand of persons? well you brought the situation on yourself, now solve it.Unique Identity program is being opposed precisely for this reason, as more confusion is condusive for anti nationals to carry out their afgenda.

  • Anonymous

    My harmless jokes are being deleted now. Not fair. Let me try again.

    A man goes to ATM to withdraw cash.
    .

    1. Pull up to ATM

    2. Insert card

    3. Enter PIN and account

    4. Take cash, card and receipt

    5. Drive away

    Next week he sends his wife to withdraw some cash and deposit a cheque.

    1. Pull up to ATM

    2. Back up and pull forward to get closer

    3. Shut off engine

    4. Put keys in purse

    5. Get out of car because you’re too far from machine

    6. Hunt for card in purse

    7. Insert card

    8. Hunt in purse for grocery receipt with PIN written on it.

    9. Enter PIN

    10. Study instructions.

    11. Hit “cancel”

    12. Re-enter correct PIN

    13. Check balance

    14. Look for envelope

    15. Look in purse for pen

    16. Make out deposit slip

    17. Endorse checks

    18. Make deposit

    19. Study instructions

    20. Make cash withdrawal

    21. Get in car

    22. Check makeup

    23. Look for keys

    24. Start car

    25. Check makeup

    26. Start pulling away

    27. Stop

    28. Back up to machine

    29. Get out of car

    30. Take card and receipt

    31. Get back in car

    32. Put card in wallet

    33. Put receipt in checkbook

    34. Enter deposits and withdrawals in checkbook

    35. Clear area in purse for wallet and checkbook

    36. Check makeup

    37. Put car in reverse

    38. Put car in drive

    39. Drive away from machine

    40. Drive 3 miles

    41. Release parking brake

    Good day friends.

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  • Anonymous

    The act of my MP, Owaisi, demonstrating that he is putting himself and the country above politics was the statement he made in the Parliament in early August – “I warn the central government, I warn the honourable members here..if proper rehabilitation (of Bangla Deshi Muslims) does not take place, you be ready for a third wave of radicalization among Muslim youth..”

    He did put the country above politics, because he warned the country of the disastrous consequences.

    There was not an outrage on this in the press.

    Owaisi is not a Mullah; he is an MP and the leader of a political party, Majlis Ittahudel Musselman (MIM).

    Not only he is an MP, he is still a ruler of Hyderabad (in modern terms, with his own militia, mafia, connections)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, he is the true inheritor of the Razakar mantle and philosophy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sometimes it looks that Congress is not always playing vote bank politics but they are genuinely scared of people like Owaisi. Our country is not only being rules by thieves but by cowards also.

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  • emotionalatyachaar

    Suno suno suno…nai khabar aaj ka,
    kejriwal karega gherao PM aur Gadkari ka;
    panch sau jaenge PM ke ghar,
    karenge narebaji aur likhenge ‘chor hai sonia ki yeh bhai’,
    udhar pachaas jayenge gadkari ke ghar,
    chhun ke uske gulabi gaal, bolenge “ohhh my my…”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Bangladeshion ne kiya Assam mein athyachaar
    aur congress ne failaya desh mein bhrashtachar
    Pathak ji chuck te hain dahi chawal ke saath aam achaar
    aur likh te hain naam le kar emotional athyachaar.

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    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Pathak mein hai kahan woh gun, jo hum mein hai,
    leekhte hai hum aur sabaashi koi aur le jai !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are so right my friend !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Split personality.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    hum na hai ek udar prithak grib,
    kaise socha aapne hum hai achamvita.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde
    Pathak bowls, ball goes wide.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    kabhi kabhi aap bhi bade kamaal karte hain,
    bina aag ki dhuan neekal te hain.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kabhi, ek zamane mein hum bhi Hindi me likha karte the
    Hamare chacha Hindi ke pandit hua karte the
    lekin aaj hum baithe hain filmi gaane gaate
    aur tukke maara karte hain jaate jaate.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Likhte rahe kabhi kabhi hindi mein,
    kya mazza hai angrezi mein?

    hindi mein leekh kar desh ki shaan badhate rahen,
    kabhi kbhi deshpremi geet hum me bhi sunaate rahe.

  • Anonymous

    Coalgate: If coal is not mined, where is the loss? asks Chidambaram

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Coalgate-If-coal-is-not-mined-where-is-the-loss-asks-Chidambaram/articleshow/15630061.cms

    Is Chidambaram trying to play the role of Kapil Zero loss Sibal?

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    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Koi bataye toh sahi, usme kharabi kya hai,
    naarebaji ke siwa kisiko kuchh aur bhi ataa hai ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Naarebaazi hoti nahin agar CAG uthata nahin koi sawal
    Chori nahin karti Congress to hota nahin koi bawal.

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    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Khub jamega jodi hamare aap ke saath,
    jab mil baith kar karenge jugalbandi Shenoy ke saath;

    Anonymous Reply:

    No wonder, PathakG has kept himself away from his brilliant logic.

    The readers of ToI have ripped it apart. Chidambaram has scored a self-goal for his party in injury time.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I don’t comment on what is obvious to everybody.. I don’t tell the world what everybody has read this morning. Moreover, these are dead issues for me. Be it Vk Singh , Team Anna or Coalgate today. Too obvious. What excites me is that something I see but others don’t see easily.

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  • emotionalatyachaar

    Aaj aisa hai sannata, lagta hai koi na suna hai swamy ka naam,
    na koi khabar padha hai, na dekha koi tv program;

    badi muskil hai jeena aise blackout mein,
    andhera hi andhera, koi toh bole kuchh swamy ke baare mein.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He said he could not finish his submission in the court properly and Kalam didn’t hear him properly.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is not the first time the supreme court has given a patently wrong and biased decision.

    It is illogical, devoid of common sense that it sends Raja to jail and leaves Chidambaram untouched.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I told you before because of the press coverage during CWG, even SC got carried away like ordinary people.

    vijay ! Reply:

    I always said that Mani Aiyar dug the Congress grave from CWg onwards. Do you beleive me now?

    Anonymous Reply:

    How can Vinodji agree with you about his bosom friend, the secular Ayatollah, Many Sankat Aiyar?

    Anonymous Reply:

    He was inconsequential. It’s Vinod Rai’s press conference that did all the damage. He wasn’t even around here in India.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Brother

    I know this from close. He was the discarded wife whose jealousy showed in tears and heaving of his chest.

    he went to Barkha dutt and started the game there. 70, 000 crores looted he whispered….

    And then he went to Times NOw

    And Rajedeep

    And then to entire mandi…

    Well the Congress never had the guts to shut him up.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Swamy has rightly compared this with cricket. He is a bowler and he has to get lucky just once. As a batsman, Chidambaram has to go on defending!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Let him declare openly out of 50 balls, 49 are actually wrong ones he bowls deliberately.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Do baar abhi abhi kul gayi dhoti Swamy ka,
    kabhi dekhe idhar, kabhi udhar nehi hai jawab kisi kaam ka.

    Anonymous Reply:

    the umpires are there to check if he bowled a no-ball.

    He’ll carry on doing what he has been. We’ll wait for another day and another case.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    politics ka hai yeh rakhi sawant,
    karta rahega nautanki hoke mast.

    na thakega iske jawan jhoot bol ke,
    tv ka hai yeh rajkumar saare jahan ke.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But the one he bowled to Sonia Gandhi on her Oxford qualification had her run out and the SC chief justice begging for mercy.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Yeh hain Chidambaram ki jaan
    Uski dallali ki pehchaan
    Khali kiya sarkari khajana
    bhar liya ghar ka bhandara
    kahani sunata raha rightwing terror ki
    jhooti nikali bhoot pret ki kahani jaisi

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    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Swamy na tha kabhi Chidu bhai ki jaan,
    ho gaye aap gumrah, abhi neend se uthe kya bhai rehman!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    jab Pathakji likhte hain tab gayab hote hain Athachaar,
    jab yah so jaata hai to Pathakji aate hain lekar apna vichaar.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Pathak ka na hai humaare jaise khubiyaan,
    jab hum hote saare rakhte hain hum se dooriyaan.

    Anonymous Reply:

    There is hardly anything exciting to discuss.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Swamy jab pad gaya peeche unke
    bhag na payega chidu unse
    chor ki dadhi mein tinka
    chidu ka mundu hoye dheela

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Swamy ka naam aaj log sune,
    hum to uska bal bal pehchane;
    aya tha bol ke pradhaanmantri zaroor banega,
    koi na pooche isliye nautanki kart hai jhoot moot ka;

  • Anonymous

    The 10 day Onam festival of Malayalis started yesterday.

    An integral part of Onam is the flower decorations in the courtyard or verandah of one’s house; starting with small circles on day 1 and ending with elaborate arrangements on the final day, Thiru Onam.

    There used to be competition among us friends in my childhood as to who will collect the maximum amount/variety of flowers. There was a lot of open land, maidans, where wild local plants with flowers of different colours and varieties grew, so we can build rings of flowers with different colours.

    The land and flower availability was limited when my children grew up because of the construction boom, ; but there still was flowers available, with an occasional back up by buying flowers from the market.

    But during the last twenty years, for most part people here have been buying flowers from the commercial market, because there is no open land to pluck flowers.

    This year, drought has impacted that source too. The supply from Karnataka and Tamil Nadu is limited; also quite expensive as a result .

    My grandchildren will never believe that we used to go to open lands and forests to pluck flowers for Onam; that there used to be a friendly competition as to who plucked the most….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, Gopiji there are many things our children and grand children will never get an opportunity to see what we had seen. Sad, but that is the fact we have to live with mainly because of unsustinable population growth .

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    vijay ! Reply:

    very true!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Touching.

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  • Anonymous

    Indian ingenuity/entrepreneurship in action..

    The best barbecue in Virginia is by one Hindu vegetarian Varun Patri! I am going to eat there when I drive through Virginia countryside next!

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/in-virginia-countryside-a-hindu-takes-on-role-of-barbecue-guru/2012/08/23/0facad78-d5b0-11e1-b2d5-2419d227d8b0_story.html

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Thx for the llnk Binoy

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Thx for the llnk Binoy

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good for the gentleman. The ribs do look tempting!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sounds delicious. Maybe will visit the place when I m there in US.

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  • vijay !

    VInodji ne naya liya hai bhesh
    Kavita aur dialogues se de rahe hai sandesh…

    Kyon Emotional ho gaye ho Vinodji?
    Congrress choddo aur atyachar bhi gayab hoga abhi abhi…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    All bitten by PremChand bug , huh !

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  • Anonymous

    It will be interesting how congress handles the CBI inquiry against the AP ministers involved with Jagan.

    Dharma is not the only one; many will have to go.
    And the PCC President Bosta is no saint either. Several cases are pending against him and his son, although, so far, none related to Jagan.

    http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/andhra-pradesh-cm-meets-sonia-to-discuss-jagan-case-fallout/1049559.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What else has Congress got to do? They know how to handle these issues – an example being Mayawati and Mulayam both supporting its govt. at centre.

    No matter how hard I try, I am unable too figure out the scale of corruption in Andhra Pradesh. I know the people in UP are fools to vote in the crooks of the world, but seriously, even the people in AP are unable to see the rampant loot of their state politicians.

    To add to the woes, we now have a certain Hyderabadi Mr Owaisi who is out to some serious damage to the country’s politics.

    Swapan Dasgupta has a nice article:

    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/columnists/swapan-dasgupta/rise-modern-muslim-leadership

    It says: Although he is second to G.M. Banatwala, the Mumbai lawyer who represented the Mallapuram district of Kerala for the Muslim League for many terms, as a parliamentarian, Mr Owaisi has made a mark in the Lok Sabha. His short intervention in the Lok Sabha during the adjournment motion on the Assam troubles may have earned him some notoriety — he warned of a possible “third wave” of Muslim militancy — but, in the process, he came across as the most decisive voice of the Muslims in Assam. Mr Owaisi was the only Muslim MP who spelt out the demand for the immediate abolition of the Bodo Territorial Council, a body viewed by the immigrants as the impediment to its “rights” in Kokrajhar and elsewhere

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar-

    The massive corruption started with YSR. He did it differently, in the sense, every element in the chain, from the lowest clerk to the department secretary in the bureaucarcy and the panchatatmember to Dist and state Congress committe honchos, got a piece of action. Perfect alignment!

    THE TOLERANCE ISSUE

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Crazy!

    This is rivalling D and Co

    Pathak G koi spin toh deejiye…

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mahadev;
    is raktabeej, the answer in AP?

  • vijay !

    Mahadevan your posting showed that YSR was as good as D company. A fully organised racket feeding the high command so that the lower level dahlas and dalals made crores and crores from selling of iNDIA.
    This is Congress corruption of the scale of Marcos and Idi Amin.

    Vinod Sharmaji and Pathak g find this nice and pure and Shudh COngress music. After all there is a dynasty too involved.

    Cmon my blind firends… Vinod Sharma and PathakG
    Congress ne YSR diya..
    Corruption aur Dynasty ka band baj Gya…

    Toh aap do jasoos
    Kab karoge mahsoos

    Ki Congress badi kharab hai..

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  • shekhar gandotra

    Hello Brothers.

    It seems to me that Congress is now in kafan. It is good because in democracy we must have satta parivartan

    There is some talent in Congress but because of fixation with Nehru name all talent is cut of from head.

    My uncle Ravi is not coming here from long time. Seems he has gone back to bed of Papa Hafis Saeed. Maybe he was involved in Banglore problem on North east people. He had told us that he visit Bangalore some time back.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    shekhar

    If Ravi is not actively involved in terrorism… then I would pray that he changes and becomes an Indian lover. We will forgive him once he sings Jan gan man…. iinstead of Pakistan ka matlab kya.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But, for heaven’s sake don’t ask him to sing Vande Mataram!
    It is haraam for him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But, for heaven’s sake don’t ask him to sing Vande Mataram!
    It is haraam for him.

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  • Anonymous

    Shoot out near Empire state building in New York. Two killed and many injured.

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    shekhar gandotra Reply:

    Americans should play with Kancha and lattu in childhood.

    All gun toys for children make them shooter in adult life.

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  • Anonymous

    An excellent article on the Pakistan dilemma, India’s emerging challenges vis-a-vis religion/nation perspective.

    Shoeb, he refers to the emerging Salafi issue/impact here in India- you mentioned about that threat in your response in this blog to the Azad Maidan incident.

    http://newindianexpress.com/opinion/article594721.ece

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In Pakistan they started with minorities – Hindus, Christians and Sikhs -
    then Ahemdiyas and now Shias. When all these are finished they will
    start killing each others as hate is in their genes. Pakistan is a doomed country.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Beutiful link Gopi.
    I hope, PathakG will read it.

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  • Anonymous

    Happy Onam to Gopi and everyone. All here call me paaji but it is 10 pm here in Uk and I am watching the original paaji on Indian Idol, DHARMENDRA M And Hema looks grand

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Balwinderji;
    Is it Praji or Paaji?
    I am a bit confused here. Paaji is not very enticing.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Pankaj

    We Punjabis are lazy… like Americans.

    So the r is swallowed and Dharmendra Prahaji becomes “oye mera Dharmendra pahaji”…. By the way Suar Paazi is a favourite abusive term of older Punjabi women… so paaji is deifferent from Paazi..

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks for this nuanced answer.

  • Anonymous

    One night, a drunk comes stumbling into a bar and says to the bartender: “Drinks for all on me including you, bartender.” So the bartender follows the mans orders and says: “That will be Rs. 2000 please.” The drunk says he has no money so the bartender slaps him around and throws him out.

    The next night the same drunk comes in again and orders a drink for everyone in the bar including the bartender. Again the bartender follows instructions and again the drunk says he has no money. So the bartender slaps him around and throws him out.

    On the third night he comes in, the drunk orders drinks for all except the bartender. “What, no drink for me?” replies the bartender. “Oh, no. You get violent when you drink.”

    Good morning friends.

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  • Anonymous

    Narendra Modi protests censorship by UPA

    http://www.niticentral.com/2012/08/narendra-modi-protests-censorship-by-upa.html

    The government’s order to block Twitter handles and nearly 300 Web pages
    which it says threaten communal harmony and a fragile peace, led to outrage on
    Twitter. Hashtags like Emergency2012 and GOIBlocks protested against the
    government’s decision. Many turned their pictures black in protests and now
    Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi too has joined the protest.
    He tweeted today that he joins the crackdown on freedom of speech, and has
    turned his digital picture black.
    “As a common man, I join the protest against crackdown on freedom of speech!
    Changed my DP. ‘Sabko Samnati De Bhagwan’ (May God give wisdom to all),” he
    posted on #GOIBlocks. As a mark of their protest many netizens have joined
    ‘#GOIBlocks’ which is trending (bulletin board where everybody can express their
    opinion on the subject) on Twitter.
    Instead of Mr Modi’s image, the picture display section on his Twitter
    account today showed a blank space, along with the message denouncing the
    Centre’s move to “muzzle” social media.
    There are around 40 million Facebook and 16 million Twitter users in
    India.
    What prompted the Centre to step in is the ‘provocative’ mobile phone text
    messages being in circulation and doctored website images about Assam and
    Myanmar violence going viral, resulting in exodus of northeast people from some
    states fearing attacks on them by Muslims.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mr Narendra Modi epitomises Freedom of Speech ! Bravo !!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, Bravo. He has courage to stand up to the injustice. Wish
    some Congress leaders had raised their voice against this rubbish of blocking twitters.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Atleast he does not weave lies ….like Manmohan Singh.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mr Narendra Modi, honourable Chief Minister of Gujrat, who epitomises Freedom of Speech, weaves lies and and keeps combing all the while to straighten them ….even before camera. In recent times he has been doing too often.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is like a profusely sweating Renuka Chaudhury wiping her face with her hand all the time she is on the TV!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Renuka wipes of all extra… Mr Narendra Modi,the honourable Chief Minister of Gujrat, keeps checking about the extra he got implanted.

    BTW who paid for this hair implant and weaving ? This looks like an international job. Did you know when Mr Narendra Modi,the honourable Chief Minister of Gujrat, flew out to get this thing done ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    these are the days of implanting, transplanting, replanting. And you are planting stories about the cost of implanting.

    When women get implants, and nobody so much as raises an eye brow, why are you so agitated about Modi getting an attractive hair implant? What matters is whether it suits him. For example, Harsha Bhogle has lost all his wisdom after the implant, whereas Salman Khan is scoring hit after hit after his own implant.

    So, please, your unbiased opinion please.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Honestly I havem’t looked at his recent picture carefully. 3 months back he looked like an opera ( as in open stage Yatra party from Bengal ) guy with his long hair.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is like a profusely sweating Renuka Chaudhury wiping her face with her hand all the time she is on the TV!

  • Anonymous

    Ek Tha Tiger: The other side of the coal scam

    http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/column_ek-tha-tiger-the-other-side-of-the-coal-scam_1732473

    I’ve spent the past few days reading a couple of page-turners that I
    recommend strongly to every Indian who cares about her country: the CAG’s audit
    report on coal block allocations, and a new report released by Greenpeace,
    titled ‘How Coal-Mining is Trashing Tigerland’. Both are freely available
    online, at the CAG and the Greenpeace websites respectively.

    Till now, the media has focused primarily on the CAG report. But you have to
    read both together to get the full picture about the implications of coalgate.———-
    Is what this writer claiming is correct ?

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Who appointed Markanday Katju to the Press Council ? He wishes to abrogate to himself the work of Head of Content of all News Channels….. he can hand out circulars every day on how many minutes or seconds should be allotted to each story he decides for the day. He opposes Anna Hazare…says Lokpal shall increase Corruption. He did not like coverage of Dev Anand when he died . He did not like coverage to Rajesh Khanna when he died. He did not like coverage of the birth of Aishwarya’s daughter. or felicitation of sports persons. However a word in his praise too … otherwise it shall be unfair .. Markanday as Judge of the Allahabad High Court , CJ of Delhi , and then elevated to the SC always enjoyed a very clean reputatation..but somewhat unpredictable in his court room observations and remarks . His younger brother Vivek Katju of the IFS was an ace diplomat and an expert on Pakistan and Afganistan . Musharraf had blamed him for the failure of Agra Summit. Both are senior alumni of my school.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Justice Katju once said that a litigant Muslim school was Talibanising education by insisting on students’ right to grow beards as per the scriptures.

    Later he apologised to the community.

    Now he himnself is talibanising the media!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Justice Katju once said that a litigant Muslim school was Talibanising education by insisting on students’ right to grow beards as per the scriptures.

    Later he apologised to the community.

    Now he himnself is talibanising the media!

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  • Anonymous

    PM asks mines minister not to go ahead with mines allocations.

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  • vijay !

    Twitter silenicng on Kanchan gupta and similar voices was the government’s real purpose.

    Basically blogsites will be next. All blogsites which treat the Baby G DIgiviansh G
    as jokers would soon be censored…

    What will happen to this one?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    viju
    wait and watch the fury of congress mata

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  • Anonymous

    Assam riots will cause third wave of radicalization of Muslims… PFI (the sender of bulk SMS) of kerala ..

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Assam-Riots-may-see-third-wave-of-Muslim-radicalisation-PFI/articleshow/15612995.cms

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sadly even after such news coming out, government is not taking
    any action against these outfits.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan-

    Just one word..”vote”!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    and get a (Rs1000) note.

  • Anonymous

    Now not only my jokes but even the news item to which I provided link are being deleted. Has blocking on HT already started?

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  • Anonymous

    National Minority Council promoting “victimhood” of minorities

    http://www.niticentral.com/2012/08/nmc-entrenching-minority-victimhood.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji-

    The concept of a national minority Council in itself is an oxymoron.

    Leaving that aside, it simply is unpardonable that they will visit to check on the welfare of one of the parties in the conflict while the riots are going on, while the settlement/resettlement is going on.

    It is also stupid, or may be political, to visit with a preconceived notion of “majority vs minority” riot. Who is the majority, is it Bodos? Who is the minority, is it Muslims?

    Our government, through agencies such as NMC, is creating more problems than solving them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    you are absolutely right here about the NCM.

    The latest from this august body in the month of August is an order to the government to open all heritage mosques under the protection of the ASI as national monuments, must be opened to the minority community for offering Friday prayers!

    I think our friend, Pathak ji will certainly have something to say as explanation (after ‘consulting’ Digvinash Sing, ofcourse).

    He may say that the country is committing ghor athyachaar on the Muslims by depriving them of the r right to pray, which is guaranteed in our constitution.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You parrot for days together even half a phrase that BJP trolls shout on the internet. Pathak doesn’t need to consult anybody before giving his opinion.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please, then Sir, give your valued opinion, thol mol ke.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ask about things other than religion. We have thousands of issues to discuss. You will have plenty of opportunities.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But, do you agree that National Commission is not only about religion of only one minority?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I never bothered about their mandate. So no clue.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ask about things other than religion. We have thousands of issues to discuss. You will have plenty of opportunities.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    you are absolutely right here about the NCM.

    The latest from this august body in the month of August is an order to the government to open all heritage mosques under the protection of the ASI as national monuments, must be opened to the minority community for offering Friday prayers!

    I think our friend, Pathak ji will certainly have something to say as explanation (after ‘consulting’ Digvinash Sing, ofcourse).

    He may say that the country is committing ghor athyachaar on the Muslims by depriving them of the r right to pray, which is guaranteed in our constitution.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Did you ever write to your community leaders about this issue with the haz subsidy ?

    Or, you find it safe and easy to express your opinion here on this blog?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,
    NCM through their biased approach may create more rift between majority and minority. I don’t see main opposition party having any guts to
    taking up this matter seriously and sold out media cannot be expected to
    raise this very grave issue.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Gopi

    Everyone is a victim in this country. Everyone has atyachar on him…

    Vinodji even says there is emotional atyachar on him. Lucky guy! My girl is doing physical atyachar on me… by making me wait in office… when I wanted to play pool…

    Now everyone is a minority. WOmen. Muslims. Hindus in kashmir (not talked about as they dont create a vote bank) . Etc etc.

    We should be a country of minoirtes now…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are sounding like a long lost cousin of Owaisi.

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  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————
    ~~ CONGRESS SEWA DAL IN THE MEDIA BLOWS THE ELECTION BUGLE ~~
    —————————————————————————————————-

    i HAVE the latest issue of the OUTLOOK. It has gone out of the way to plug the Congress. All canons are firing now. Lies, spin and fiction. So here is what the story is.

    a) Sonia, is a great lady who is leading the country from upfront.

    b) Rahul is thougtful lad, who worked hard in England. There is in fact book which is still to be written and that is already being reviewed in the Outlook !

    Imagine the book is still not written… but chapters from the book outlining the greatness of Rahul are excerpted here! This even beats Pathak G !

    c) The North Eastern problem is because of RSS protecting the North easterners in bangalore !

    ARRE SEWA DAL WALON !! ITNA JHOOT BOL KAR JAHUNAMM BHI NASEEB NAHI HOGA !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    New Convert ! Don’t dance in Jitendra’s white shoes.
    Post the link and let people judge themselves.

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  • pankaj#1

    Sorry for this copy and paste,
    Could not resist, as this is being now discussed on this blog.
    The Government’s paranormal activities in the last few weeks has worsened with it coming down heavily on some popular Twitter accounts and instructing suspension orders on them. ‘Parody’ has been redefined as ‘misrepresentation’, ‘fearless’ opinions have been redefined as ‘communal’, ‘Rights’ have been replaced with ‘privilege’ for which we ought to remain in servitude of, basically many words in Webster have been redefined to suit the UPA’s convenience. Many proud supporters with a halo around their heads carry the Government’s latest version of a nonsensical encyclopedia and dish out gibberish. ‘Veiled’ threats are now common on social media; they all take refuge under the latest lexicon created by the UPA. In all this reigning confusion, it still remains a mystery as to why the Honorable Minister of state for communications and information technology, Milind Deora’s account has been suspended? Milind, the able leader charging from the front to gag the mouths of some intelligent, reasonable and sane thinkers in social media. Many swarming flies, acting as Deora’s mouthpiece have buzzed around the virtual world and declared that Deora’s account is being verified and hence suspended. Hilarious and rather ironic state of affairs to say the least, and we must be first class nincompoops to believe the excuses. The so called next generation Congress commanders like Sachin Pilot and Milind Deora have shot themselves in the foot with their antagonism towards liberty of expression, a platform that India’s current and future generation will not compromise on. By failing to sense the pulse of what India’s next wants, more carcinogenic errors are continually being made by the UPA.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Congress is gradually bringing in emergency.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Presently (and privately) it is callede cybergency.

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  • Anonymous

    Is this incessant call for Dr MMS resignation doing any good for BJP from a future electoral victory perspctive? or is it doing harm (I think)?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Time Pass.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Even Arun Shourie is saying that stalling parliament is not a good idea.
    Discuss the issue, not letting parliament function is not a solution.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, Gopi,

    read Shekhar Gupta’s article quoted above.

    You will see the rationale behind the move to block parliament.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rationale ??? ha ha…

  • Anonymous

    COAL VS COALITION
    +++++++++++++++++

    Congress party’s three-point formula: pradhan mantri imaandar, allies beimaan, aur gathbandhan ki majboori.

    “It is for the first time since 2004 that they have a scam that reaches the very top of the Congress party and the prime minister. Until now, the Congress had been able to deflect all scams and failures to an inconvenient ally. The 2G scam was blamed on the DMK, and an angry public was calmed by sending A. Raja and Kanimozhi to jail and Dayanidhi Maran into oblivion. Price rise was blamed on another ally, Sharad Pawar. The questions over the Air India aircraft purchases were similarly dumped on Praful Patel even though the decision was taken by an EGoM led by a Congress minister (P. Chidambaram). Lack of economic reform and policy paralysis were “because of” Mamata Banerjee, the usual suspect. In short, as a top BJP leader explained to me, the Congress was “getting away comfortably” with a three-point formula: pradhan mantri imaandar, allies beimaan, aur gathbandhan ki majboori (the PM is honest, the allies are crooks and there are compulsions in coalition politics).”

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/national-interest-coal-vs-coalition/992928/0

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And blaming the coalgate on NDA.

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  • Ravi

    Origins of Mother Languages

    The New York Times recently ran an article showcasing a new theory on the evolution of Indo-European languages. The article called “Family Tree of Languages Has Roots in Anatolia, Biologists Say is based on widely dis-credited scientific methodology, well actually statistical analysis of some words or their daughters which are found in many languages.

    However, I will not spoil your own enjoyment of this thoroughly biased and
    imperialist article written by a paid for congressi journalist who packs in his
    pants a tiny श्वेत लिंगम/

    With a view to providing a rich context to the new theory, the article presents the views of three eminent, well in acuality two eminent and one cunning linguist. And they are:

    1. Dr Anthony who Promotes the widely discredited theory of Aryan Migration and believes that the first speakers of the mother tongue, known as proto-Indo-European, were chariot-driving pastoralists who burst out of their homeland on the steppes above the Black Sea about 4,000 years ago and conquered Europe and Asia. This theory has now been comprehensive debunked by Historians from the BHU, who have studied fossilised cow droppings from 7000 years ago.

    2. Quentin Atkinson – An imperialist India hating Kiwi from the antipodean banana republic called New Zealand. It specialises in producing cheap woolly bananas. His view on the origin of language is a rival theory that
    suggests, to the contrary, the first Indo-European speakers were peaceable
    farmers in Anatolia, now Turkey, about 9,000 years ago, who disseminated their language by the hoe, not the sword. Quentin Atkinson’s middle name is Osama.

    3. स्वामी निआन्ड्र्थाल पुरोहित – He is a well respected all knowing holi man who was present at the time when mother language – veracularly known as माँ भविष्य वाणी decended from heaven to earth. In order to break her fall, she landed herself on the rastafarian hair styled महान स्वामी शब्दकोष जी महाराज who was sitting precariously perached on the Mt Everest. महान स्वामी जी at the time of the descend was singing – in राग झिंझोटी – लट उलझी सुलझा जा बालम. The net result of this unlikely combination of events is that माँ भविष्य वाणी spread throughout the world by trickling down many of the ल्ट्स of महान स्वामी शब्दकोष जी महाराज. That is why we in India have many many mother tongues, each sweeter than the other. Each Indian seem to go
    jabberwoky in राग झिंझोटी.

    As can be clearly seen if only these linguists had made the effort to come to India and spoken to the current descendants of the oldest cunning linguist in the world, they would have saved their careers and received many academic accolades if propounding the theory that India is the birth place of ALL the mother languages and she descended from heaven.

    However for those who would like to waste their precious time on the new thory can read it here…. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/24/science/indo-european-languages-originated-in-anatolia-analysis-suggests.html?pagewanted=all

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    you could make alive even a dead serpent?? Vow.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shenoy Sahab;
    Best compliment is when adversary start copying you. Shvet lingam is no longer your copy right.
    Congrats.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    shevta lingam upbhokta is a gem which describes many a people…

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    This article has already been read by me but the twist provided is new.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Nice one. Pretty much in league with the following Onion piece.
    http://www.theonion.com/articles/fed-chief-makes-diplomatic-visit-to-econopolis,29299/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A nice satire. Writer should have added a derivative curry and that would have made a perfect a dozen course feast.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Fake Ravi toh fake hie reh gaya. Khud fake aur isski theories too fake.

    And look who he has got as the clapper boy, our very own Mahesh!

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Karan Thapar, Oh so upright and polished, UK returned on top of that, lamenting power of SMS … and shirking the issue of muslim bigots and their nexus with congress. Let all people of his ilk come down to earth.
    in a related blog at TOI, some one, sounding secularist, but pure muslim communal, saying civil war in India, so be it. what our pathakG and karans and Sardesai have to respond here. These fundoos understand only harsh language and treatment nothing less, A la, America and Europe, what you say pathakG. sorry know you, like you in a mixed way, but you are shy to call spade a spade. these things will not work, sorry , you are still, frog in the well.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Prove that we are bangladeshis and we will go back. A head line in HT. PathakG, should we start the exercise? I knew that this will come. Now, either expel them or declare bangladesh as province of India, what you say PathakG. Analyse, with deep implications, no rhetorics. We will take care of present day bangladeshis as Indians if they acceppt indian ethos and become secularists. For communalist, we will chun chun ke marenge!!!
    Your comments please pathak G.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    …………….if they acceppt indian ethos and become secularists.

    =
    I thought “secularist” had become a derogatory word !

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    PathakG.
    I am wedded to secularism in its pure and untinted form. Believe me, if you will.

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  • Anonymous

    An Open Letter to our Muslim Brothers…by Arindam Chowdhury

    Let us see what Owaisi will utter now .

    http://newindianexpress.com/opinion/article595886.ece

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There is going to be no effect on Owaisi by this open later. He uses Muslim ‘victimhood’ card just to get votes for his party and Congress supports him to further his agenda.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Owaisi is a Razakar fundamentalist and nothing shakes a fundamentalist, not even long jail terms or death.

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  • Dr Mishra

    RAVI
    ———
    I am deep sea diving in Malta- conc on wrecks this week. In a very mellow mood on the Sliema waterfront drinking some Maltese wine.
    Just read your nonsensical post below and can I say very politely- you are past your sell by date. You are getting boring, and your attempts at provoking and atempts at humour are weak.
    Or are you smarting under the brilliant if cruel barbs that Mohan, Praaji and Viju and Shenoy directed at you last week?

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  • pankaj#1

    Psuedos;
    It your heart out. Osamu Suzuki visited Gujrat to encourage more investment there? What is happening, Gujrat is progressing, not pampering any one it is pure progress for every one.
    Ha.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Osama visits Pakistan, sets up terror facilities and makes it Pakshitstan.

    Osamu visits Gujarat, sets up facilities and uplifts India.

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  • Anonymous

    Wise men don’t marry. If they marry the become otherwise.

    Good morning friends.

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  • Anonymous

    All BIGWIGS of IAC at the PM’s house….the D team ( just 2 of them ) is at Gadkari’s house?

    —–

    Copying and Pasting a fellow blogger’s comment :
    ======
    emotionalatyachaar • 2 days ago

    Suno suno suno…nai khabar aaj ka,
    kejriwal karega gherao PM aur Gadkari ka;
    paanch sau jaenge PM ke ghar,
    karenge narebaji aur likhenge ‘chor hai sonia ki yeh bhai’,
    udhar paanch jayenge gadkari ke ghar,
    chhun ke uske gulabi gaal, bolenge “ohhh my my…”

    ========

    ” We were also at Gadkari’s house ! “

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Pathak G

    Vinodji aka Emotional atyachar knows that C and co (congress) is being swept away to double digits , first time since 1947.

    Let us enjoy the last few months of this collapsing , corrupt regime.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are having your early morning dream at 11 O’ Clock !!!!!!

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    vijay ! Reply:

    well… no dreams! Just facts.

    Now we have to see that Mamta, Mulayam or Maya dont become the PM. Congress is willing to support a Maya government at centre I have been told as she does not cut into their votebank

    Congress would be willing to even support a jaya government as they have been allies on and off.

    What is your calcuation about Baby G and Digivash G’s strategy after they reduce COngress to 79 seats?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Maya or Mamta would be nice. India will have a breakthrough. Everybody took the freedom for granted.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Who knows – It may be a Jaya/congress alliance!

    Anonymous Reply:

    79 has a nice ring about it. Inshallah!
    But they have to slog for it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yess, you must remember Allah for your nirvaan.

    Advani also remembers jihad when he falls short of expression.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I will be surprised if they cross 50 even .

    Anonymous Reply:


    Hurry up ! Anybody else !!!

    Lifetime opportunity to win a Mega-lottery !!!!!!!!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    rancour is not an emotion suited for an early morning or even for noon. Try to accept the inevitable.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Want to bet ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do ka bees !!!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    I used to bet a lot in cricket and elections – stopped now since many years -. The actual odd for congress winning 50 seats should be around dus ka ek.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Let it be.

    Anonymous Reply:

    in 2004 bookies went completely wrong. NDA was favourite to win around 250-270 seats. No idea about 2009 as by that time I had
    stopped betting and had not bothered to check.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You mean to say your skill is quite rusted now ?
    Kasam se Shenoy wouldn’t like it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I told you what actually was bookies’ prediction in 2004
    and accordingly they gave the odds. They expected NDA to form the government but went wrong in their prediction.
    I am not a bookie, I used to be a punter only. Will try to
    find out if bookies have already started giving the odds
    on next elections.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You do all that at your own risk.

    I don’t know you. Never spoken to you. Never read your jokes.

    Mohan kaun ? I only know Lord Krishna.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kya baat bhai mere. Itni jaldi ghabra gaye ? :) :)

    By the way if you want to bet on India/NZ match
    you will get 70 paise for every one rupee you bet on
    India win and 1.35 rupees if you bet a rupee on draw.

    These are the latest odds at lunch time on fourth day of the match

    Anonymous Reply:

    Never did betting. Never bought a lottery ticket.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nice to hear that. I wish I could have controlled myself. Those were different times, anyway learnt a lesson after losing
    lot of money.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I like it, kasam se.

    This a bet Pathakji will never win.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    generally, the media persons are the first ones who see the writing on the wall; and for whom the bell tolls.

    And it is the ruling politicians who opt to live in denial. It is sad to see the media joining the denialists in their denial.

    But unlike the political denialists, the media can always live it down as if the shame is nothing.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, Pathakji,

    the media is enjoying this emotional athyachar on Kejriwal &Co. For now.

    But, as you said, the ground under their feet is slipping fast.
    Till now the congress was enjoying the safety of distance from the scams as it was all allies taking the hit.

    Now paani sar se ooper beh raha hai. The Prime minister, the epitome of probity and honesty is involved in the biggest scam under his own direction. Buss, kuch hi din aur.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Buss…This Semptember !!!

    [ Heard that in 2004. From Vajpayee after formation of UPA Govt. ]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Once in power, we’ll bring down the prices in 100 days!!

  • Anonymous

    India under 19 wins Cricket World cup by beating Australia in finals.
    Congrats .

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  • Anonymous

    Pathakji,

    this one is for you:

    “As for those journalists who have gone out of their way to support Internet censorship, for reasons I cannot fathom, my advice to them is that they give up journalism for more profitable careers in government. At least that way they will not be betraying their dharma and even if the I&B Ministry bites the dust, there will always be propaganda work available. ….” TAVLEEN SINGH IN INDIAN EXPRESS

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/internet-zindabad/993155/0

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Complete free tourism is bad. What to talk of internet commenting ! That’s why everywhere we have some sort of controlled tourism.

    Though you love to display your assets in your bedroom, you don’t flash them to your neighbours. There are certain social norms. If all film makers followed self-censorship, there would not be any need of a Film Censor board.

    When you expect a visitor in your house, I am sure you expect a certain level of decency.

    I am sure your children restrain while talking to you, teachers even to their own friends.

    Had Engrich restrained himself with slight moderation, I am sure you and Vijay wouldn’t have called for a jihad by rounding up all your friends who got impressed with your poetry !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    I love this reply. Kasam se.

    Moderation is the very essence of societal inter-relations.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I wish we just believed a little in this magic word moderation. Life would have been so much easier ! The World would have been so much more livable.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But moderation cannot be one sided as happened with Gandhi and the Muslim extremists led by Jinnah.

    Even Jnnah’s followers left behind in India by him like the present day Razakars, don’t have this word in their lexicon.

    Anonymous Reply:

    jinna bad.spoil india.ramdev small child 1947. not child ramdev lathi fix jinnah. jai hind.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mangalam,

    you head no have.
    shithead, yes, fake Ravi likes

    Anonymous Reply:

    low englis.make fun.put mustad oil in you.push ramdev lathi more in you. fix all. jai hind.

  • Anonymous

    anna phanna kejrival phejrival all fail. whole day wait no crowd. invite ramdev crowd all india come.dont forget ramdev mustad oild lathi. govt is bad. asking swami balkrishna how he make 60 crores in 3 years. nobdy ask bad question to swami balkrishna. people say balkrishna top. ramdev under balkrishna. no. ramdev top. balkrishna under ramdev. 2014 ramdev wins election.all vote only ramdev. jai hind.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    no. balkrishna top.ramdev bottom.ashram say.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    So is manglam ur new bhesh…

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Mangalam and Ravi
    ki hai jodi ajeeb

    Sajana LeT
    Aur Sajan Catamitty

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    Anonymous Reply:

    poosie to ****. fly long patang in empty sky.say you simple englis.india hindi contry. no big englis.ramdev mustad oild lathi fix all. jai hind.

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  • Anonymous

    Was the “panic’ a planned effort to move low skilled/grade 4 Assamese employees out and replace them with Bangla Deshi illegals in these cities?

    http://barbarindians.tumblr.com/post/29798656155/bangalore-exodus-investigation-part-4-why

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I haven’t read the article but I doubt if that’s the case.

    There are hardly any grade 4 or low skilled Assamese in our metroes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    reality is different.

    There are several thousand Assamese in Bangalore city alone working in one industry itself: as security guards.

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  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————
    ~~ CONGRESS DESPERATE! only supporter left– Pathak G & Manglam !! ~~~
    —————————————————————————————————

    Oye Pathak G

    Congress is really… reallY ! REALLY sinking !

    Imagine as a Congress, Baby and Digviansh supporter…. You now have only Mangalam as company!!

    Arre bhaiya Pathak G… you are an intelligent guy. So join the intelligent group of Shenoy, Gopi, Mohan et al …

    After all a man is known by the level of company he keeps !

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  • pankaj#1

    PathakG. I am wedded to secularism in its pure and untinted form. Believe me, if you will. This is from conviction not penitentiary.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Indian politics today seems driven less by politicians and more by the Supreme Court and Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG). What does this imply for Indian democracy?..
    The answer is that we are seeing a revolt by India’s institutions against a corrupt, callous state. An implicit political conspiracy ensures that all parties can, with impunity, engage in kickbacks and nepotism on a grand scale. In such a milieu, outcomes are decided not by justice but by money, muscle and influence.
    India’s institutions have responded by turning activist, and crossing old jurisdictional borders. Earlier, the Election Commission and Supreme Court had turned activist. The CAG has now followed suit.
    ….
    Despite excesses, an activist CAG represents a net gain for democracy. Along with the Supreme Court, the CAG has ensured that most natural resources will be auctioned in future. That is a huge gain in fairness.
    After the Election Commission and Supreme Court, the CAG has become the third institution revolting against a corrupt, callous state. We need such revolts.
    An article from aiyar in TOI.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “”All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing.”"
    Edmund Burke.

    Hopefully, finally good men of our country are waking up.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Beautifully said.

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  • Anonymous

    “Muslim Outfits a Scary Lot” – today’s Hyderaabd Chronicle, though it has not included Owaisi’s rowdy MIM Musselman party.

    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/kozhikode/are-muslim-outfits-such-scary-lot-303

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  • Anonymous

    A gangster, accompanied by his attorney, walks into a room to meet with his accountant. Gangster asks the accountant, “where’s the three million bucks you embezzled from me?”
    The accountant doesn’t answer.
    Gangster asks again, “where’s the three million bucks you embezzled from me?”
    The attorney interrupts, “Sir, the man is a deaf-mute and cannot understand you, but I can interpret for you.”
    Gangster says, “well, ask him where the fu… money is.”
    The attorney, using sign language, asks the accountant where the three million dollars is.
    The accountant signs back, “I don’t know what you’re talking about.”
    The attorney interprets to the gangster, ” He doesn’t know what you’re talking about ”
    gangster pulls out a pistol, puts it to the temple of the accountant, ***** the hammer and says, “Ask him again where the money is
    The attorney signs to the accountant, “He wants to know where it is!”
    The accountant signs back, “Okay! Okay! The money’s hidden in a suitcase behind the shed in my backyard!”
    Gangster says, what did he say?”
    The attorney interprets “He says that you don’t have the guts to pull the trigger.”

    Good morning friends.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This perhaps is why American attorneys are so popular.

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  • Anonymous

    When people do
    “AAH & OOH”
    From 9pm to 3am
    it’s called SEX
    &

    When they do that
    from 9am to 3pm.
    It’s calld SENSEX !!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    9PM to 3AM. Marathon sex ? Actually more than marathon.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Great one.

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  • Dr Mishra

    come on dont tell me no one spotted it-
    engrich=ramavtar=mangalam
    am I right Vijay Shenoy Mohan ? etc

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay thinks he is Ravi but I think that he is our own PathakG who
    enjoys playing different rolls.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I cannot accuse Pathakji of being juvenile and afflicted with aspeech impairment.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Dr Mishra and Mohan

    Mangalam come when Ravi comes.
    Mangalam makes fun about Hindu rashtra as Ravi does…

    His broken English is a sham…
    His obsession with poosie a symptom of a sex denied man…

    But then he keeps talking Ramdev
    PathaK G too does the same thing crave !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    poosie to ****.fly long patang in empty sky.sing song.come to asram.sing bhajan.eat gambhari get all disise cure.bp to cancer all fix. jai hind.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Conclusion: Engrich works as domestic servant in Pathakji’s house and when Pathakji takes rest after attacking RSS, Ramdev, Anna Hazare and tires of praising Sonia G, Baby G, DigvinashG etc, Engrich takes charge of the lap top and …………

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    vijay ! Reply:

    gr8 answer…!

    Anonymous Reply:

    all **** specialist run when **** comes.**** question you run.say big things but not answer ****.ramdev mustad oild lathi fix all.say friends vote for ramdev in 2014. jai hind.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Engrich under opium influence=Mangalam.

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  • Anonymous

    Reaping the wages of pandering to Islamism for votes

    http://www.niticentral.com/2012/08/islamism-is-not-a-moderate-idea-dont-pander-to-it.html

    In Southern India where there never used to be visible signs of difference between the
    attire or the surnames of Hindus and Muslims there now are. I personally started
    noticing them about 20 years ago in Tamil Nadu where I met Muslim women in
    Coimbatore who had taken to wearing salwar-kameez and speaking Urdu. The same
    sort of thing is happening in Maharashtra and there are madarsas in villages now
    that teach Urdu. In Rajasthan I have visited villages near Nagaur that look as
    if they belonged in Saudi Arabia. At a famous shrine near one of them I was
    astounded to see a board that spoke of how India was a land of darkness and
    superstition until Islam arrived. The shrine commemorated an Iraqi mullah who
    had come all the way from Baghdad to teach us barbarians about Allah’s message.

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  • Anonymous

    BODO-MUSLIM CONFLICT in ASSAM – Historical Roots

    http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers52/paper5178.html

    Excellent article.

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  • Anonymous

    Mohinder Amarnath ki wife ko paper padh kar attack aa gaya.

    Kyon?

    Paper me headline tha:
    “Global Warming se Amarnath ka ling pigal raha hai”

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    vijay ! Reply:

    gr8 one!

    Global warning se tora bora wale mein shevta lingam bhi pighal gaya hai kya?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Looking at the age of Amarnath, his wife. Should not worry much.
    Nice joke – never heard before.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The question is: Is Amarnath himself worried?

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  • vijay !

    NDTV says:
    Coal-gate: CBI finds evidence of wrongdoing by 142 companies; likely to file criminal charges against five, say sources.

    I hope this is just not filifng cases in BJP states… to deflect attention…

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  • Anonymous

    BJP has finally said what I wanted them to have said:

    Arun Jaitley said, “We want the PM to be visibly responsible and quit. Cancel all 142 coal blocks and put them to competitive bidding.” He added, “We do not stand alone. But on this issue even if we have to stand alone, it would be a majestic isolation.”

    The ball is in your court, Congress.

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    RajendraGodara Reply:

    Was Arun a BJP leader back in 2005 ? Didn’t he know 3 BJP CM’s ( out of 4 ) gave in writing opposing auction process?
    If they cancel, same Arun will cry aloud – because there was a hanky panky, UPA cancelled the contracts.

    BJP leaders should tell the country – “yes, we are the culprits. We opposed the auction plan in 2005. We are sorry. we didn’t know that the country will lose 1.85 lakh crores because of our myopic action. We now want to correct that mistake. We request the prime Minister to cancel all the contracts and put all coal blocks on auction”.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    The process of Auction could have been done by the Govt of India by 1. amending Mines & Minerals (Development & Regulation) Act. 2. by pursuing the the passage of the Coal Mines Nationalisation (Amendment) Bill, 2000 . This was never done by the Govt of India headed by Manmohan Singh , although the BJP through its MP Hansraj Ahir had been writing to Manmohan Singh about it. Manmohan Singh is clearly trying to shift the blame. The CMs who opposed were only trying to ensure coal supply to their Power Plants.

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    RajendraGodara Reply:

    Let the BJP leaders stand in front of the TV Cameras and say – ” we wanted a regular coal supply and that is reason we opposed the auction route.

    Our CM of MP recommended Anil Ambani’s case to transfer the coal from Sasan for other uses through which ADAG profitted 29,000 Crores. “

    Anonymous Reply:

    Forget the specifics, I know who you possibly are – the master of deflection and spin. Let’s cancel everything and start afresh using competitive bidding. We wold take take care of our loss – we’d reimburse the Ambanis!!

    RajendraGodara Reply:

    Everything is in specifics. The BJP is master of lies, deflection and spin.

    No contract must be cancelled. This country has seen enough of flip-flop to the dismay of the World investors.

    Desist from playing dirty politics.

    Anonymous Reply:

    So, you care more about the world investors than the tax-payers? Now you stand exposed.

    RajendraGodara Reply:

    Tax payers have not lost anything.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The coal blocks have been given away to private players to mine at their leisure (all this was done in name of urgency, lest you forget). Can the govt. carry out mining in the already allocated coal blocks? If not, we have definitely lost it.

    Refer to your own comment a few posts above where you are suggesting a profit of 29000 crores to ADAG. At whose cost has this profit come, in that case?

    RajendraGodara Reply:

    The coal blocks were allocated after considering all coal block owning states’ views and recommendation.
    Put all those CM’s behind bar for opposing the coal action.

    Moreover, no point dragging this chat over chai and pakoda.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    M J Akbar wrote ….” But the catch is in the opening sentence of the quoted CAG paragraph. The loss to government was due to a “delay in the introduction of the process of competitive bidding”. There was a system in place, which all parties when in government used. But in 2004, after the UPA came to power, and possibly encouraged by Dr Singh’s reputation for probity, Coal Secretary P.C. Parakh recommended, in a formal note dated 16 July 2004, a change to auction on the valid grounds that this would be less open to favouritism and generate far more revenue. This view emerged from a meeting with all stakeholders, held on 28 June 2004. One would imagine that the Cabinet would applaud. Instead the idea was blocked by officials within the Prime Minister’s Office. On 11 September 2004, PMO circulated a note asserting that there were flaws in competitive bidding; on 1 November 2004, PMO opposed an amendment to the Coal Mines (Nationalisation) Act, 1973. Why? There is no convincing answer. These are not the only instances. And if auction was wrong then, how has it suddenly become right after at least 57 blocks were awarded by this government to private businessmen — a list that includes some very famous names along with the usual lot of unknowns. A draft Mines and Minerals Bill incorporating auctions was finally readied in 2011, but it still has not been passed.”…..

    RajendraGodara Reply:

    Search the google what changes needed in laws and process for this switch.

    The process could have been faster had all coal block owning not resisted the auction process. Despite the interim arrangement of the screening committee, UPA pursued with the changes to enable the auction process.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @twitter-74991012:disqus I have read the article by M J Akbar and he has got it absolutely right. In the hind sight, I think the BJP has played a master-stroke by boycotting the parliament and eventually taking the issue to the people’s court.

    Anonymous Reply:

    hear, hear (clap, clap, clap, clap)

    Anonymous Reply:

    We want Pathakji to stand before the TV cameras and swear on mother Sonia that he is NOT Rajendra Godhra.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Congress has been suggesting over past couple of days that the opposition ruled state CMs recommended allocation as opposed to auction. The then Coal Min. accepted them. Now we want them cancelled and since you work as per our suggestions, why don’t you do what we suggest. And I assure you that we won’t cry foul over it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “The coal portfolio has always been held by the Congress, and for a very long spell by the prime minister himself. Even the two ministers of state who assisted him in the coal ministry, Dasari Narayana Rao and Santosh Bagrodia, are from the Congress. So there are no alibis. And here is the story that the leadership of the BJP seems to believe: that the mines were given out on a cash-and-carry basis, that allottees were paying the powers that be and simply reporting to the prime minister’s office with little slips confirming that they had paid their tribute, to collect their mines as “negotiated.”

    SHEKHAR GUPTA IN INDIAN EXPRESS,

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/national-interest-coal-vs-coalition/992928/0

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  • vijay !

    ~~ CRONY CAPITALISM, DAHLAS AND INDIA ~~~
    ——————————————————————————————-

    @ Mohan

    Ex Congress Minister Gopal Kanda had an airlines with 3 small planes– all grounded.

    A staff of ten people.

    and

    and

    and

    61 AIRHOSTESSES!!

    yeh Kya ho raha hai UPA aj mein?

    Of course big names like VIrgin find it difficult to operate an airline in India as they dont get licences. Only the crony capitalists like Kanda do !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Actual need was for only two air hostesses.
    The rest are all hostesses-to take care of all the bosses.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    It takes a Congress Minister of HOme in to convert simple innocent girls into suicide cases.

    I know a few airhostesses. Simple adventurous girls looking for an exciting glamorous career. Kanda Used their simplicity to his advantage.

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  • pankaj#1

    Engrich;
    What you know about Assam? What is happening in Bodoland? will you please shed some light? and as far as your secularism is concerned, let us hear about mumbai vandalism etc and PFI. Your views please.

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  • Anonymous

    ‘Deeply disappointed’ by PM statement on coal issue: Advani

    http://www.samachar.com/Deeply-disappointed-by-PM-statement-on-coal-issue-Advani-mi1uJXbejgc.html

    “In the days of Emergency, the Prime Minister of the ruling party had said
    they had to impose it due to judiciary and state of democracy. This is the same
    thing when the PM blames federalism (Oppn-ruled states apparently opposed
    competitive bidding of coal blocks), the Law Ministry and attacks constitutional
    bodies like CAG,” he said.
    “Today I recollect that one of the Speakers (of Lok Sabha) had said that to
    attack CAG is to attack a constitutional body. And now when the Prime Minister
    himself is doing it, this is very surprising,” said Advani, who was hear to
    attend a function. “Supreme Court has said one of the salient features of the Constitution is federalism and he is blaming federalism for corruption,” the former Deputy Prime Minister said.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Remind Advani about the constitutional bodies when he attacked the EC and SC.

    A petty man always remains petty.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And a petty, bar maid pretends to be the empress of India!

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  • vijay !

    Imagine Congress man YSR giving 1.4 lakh acres to his son for mining!

    WOh bhi Congressi thaa…

    And a true one at that as he believed in dynastic succession!

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  • Anonymous

    Where is Gopiji? Not seen him since yesterday. Hope everything in ok.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Yes I am missing him. Maybe busy in festival.

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay, Pathak-

    I need some edu on this “coal gate”. Is the issue that certain firms were favored in exchange for bribe, or that the government lost “potential revenue” by not following open auction?

    How is this huge loss estimate made If it is the case of missed potential revenue/fee opportunity? Is there any past yardstick or a number based on the potential yield, market rate etc?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    It is a case of missed potential earnings… most likely due to bribes which would have been10 % of the figure.

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  • pankaj#1

    PathakG;
    Now CBI, Assam Police and every one is calling this NE problem as Communal conflagration. To begin with some body stressed that it is a sectarian violence and communal violence can happen only in Gujrat?
    I believe, I was the first person to point out Azad maidan incident as grave( with advantage of reading this news first) and was phooh phooed. It is clear, that Azad maidan incident was just a test to see government resolve, when found wanting, they came out with SMS and an upheavel was created. Time could have been meticulously selected as India was to attend NAM in Tehran and use of force against rioters would have been played in the hands of pakistan.
    Why GOI brings it self to this pass?? Just impartial policing, without favors to owaisis, madanis, leaguees and such eminents, will serve the governance suitably. Do not you think that by such actions, Hindus will desert congress enmass??? have you ever thought of that possibility? or you think congress will continue to deprive/ decisive, poor, illiterate hindus for long time in future too.
    BTW, a letter in TOI will show, how Muslim behave, when in minority and when in majority. Good people amongst muslims are #1 coward or in cahoot with radicals as opposed to hindus, where so called liberals, go overboard in showing their superiority and a normal person is dubbed as communal.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Moderate people, be it from any religion, tend to keep away when a few hardcore extremists create havoc. It has happened everywhere, all the time. I am sure you too have kept quiet when you should have spoken.

    Think.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    PathakG;
    Emphatic NEVER.
    I have saved muslim women, when they were most vulnerable. That is humanism, nothing to do with any religion,not for me.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Who said about religion ?
    =======
    I am sure you too have kept quiet when you should have spoken.

    Think.
    =======

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    PathakG;
    You succeeded, Got me confused. Tell me, where I kept quiet, when I should have spoken? Coal-gate, I do not know anything about it, hence keeping quiet.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Many a time in life, there were situations…..you too have kept quiet when you should have spoken for whatever reason. But the fact is that we too remained silent when we could have spoken. So no point blaming the moderate hindus or muslims for keeping quiet. Most of the moderate intellectuals have kept quiet during the Lokpal agitation or even this coalgate noise even knowing the truth. If they speak, then some trolls will abuse them with the choicest ma behen gaalis. So sometimes it’s better to keep quiet.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    the problem with you pseudo seculars is that you speak, loudly, when you should have kept silent and when you should actually speak you remain mum.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    The problem with you acute-nationalists is that you do not know when to keep quiet and don’t stop dancing with false pride.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ho said anything about religion?

    Pathakji, that was exactly Pankaj’s point which as a secularly challenged person, you ducked. Assam was buring in a communal conflagration and all the seculars had conjured up a hastily designed response: this is not about religion, it is about Bodos and Non-Bodos, about land and jobs etc., etc.

    Now no secular talks about these social issues, but trying to put the blame on army, BJP, RSS etc.

  • Anonymous

    @ Vinay

    This post was for your you. Somehow it appeared as a solo post.

    The Coalgate :

    1) Till 2004, nobody mooted the auction route. Yes, you got it right. Between 1998 and 2004, NDA never considered the auction route.

    2) In 2004, UPA mooted the auction option.

    3) 4 coal mine owning states opposed the auction route. 3 of them were BJP ruled states.

    4) Thse BJP ruled states gave reasoning from “coal supply getting delayed ” to ” “federal mechanism” ( states must have independent option to assert their rights.

    5) These BJP states gave these objections in writing.

    6) The coal blocks were allocated through a “screening committee” represented by the state bureaucrats / politicians.

    7) The state CM’s brought in their own agenda and pushed for their own cases. For example, the CM of Madhya Pradesh pushed for a case wherein Anil Ambani was allowed to uses unused coal from Sasan elsewhere.
    8) While in 2005, the screening committee method was “continued”, the UPA Govt. proceeded with some changes in laws to accommodate the auction route. Though it wanted the auction option, it did not want use the “administrative action”, as it could have led to some litigation in the court.

    9) As you must have noticed, there was not a single congress ruled state in group of states who opposed the auction route,

    10 ) The UPA Govt. went in for the “screening committee” route as all BJP ruled states wanted to follow their “independent and federal structure”.

    BackGround of CIL :

    1) Coal India Limited operates all the mines.

    2) It operates most of the mines which are in best locations and quite accessible.

    3) The cost of Coal India is low as it has been running the mines for a long time and well subsidised.

    Here comes the CAG :

    1) Till 2004, the screening committee route was followed. So the CAG never had any issue.

    2) Since, UPA had proposed the auction route in 2005, it got the second option to compare.

    3) The CAG “knew” that UPA had mooted the auction route, but could not implement it for above mentioned reasons.

    4) The CAG did not say the country lost the money because of the “screening committee” option. Then it would have directly cast aspersion on the previous NDA Govt.

    5) So the CAG did a bit of innovation. It said because of “DELAY” in implementing the auction route, the country lost 1.5 lakh crores. [ Hit UPA Govt. in any manner ]

    6) Actually, the CAG’s first figure was 10 lakh crores which was fed to the press. When it was pointed out that the figure with GDP data, it moderates the figure to 1/10. [ It had nothing to do with the number of allocated mines vanishing overnight. or the Govt. taking back the 9/10 coal from the parties. The figure was arbitrary and laughable.

    7) The CAG calculates the cost based on Coal India's low cost which could be very different from the cost to the private developers.
    8) The CAG estimates at 100% extraction level while in practice the utilisation level is 40%. [ So deduct 60% from CAG's valuation ]. Though this data is based on the utilisation data of Coal India, the CAG conveniently ignored this but picked up CIL’s costing.

    9) The CAG “deliberately did not interact” with the coal ministry for clarification or explanation.

    10 ) There is no option in Income Tax about the “presumtive loss” which the CAG has admitted in JPC.

    11) The CAG insists the loss as real while not explaining to the countrymen what is the defination of the presumptive loss in each case.

    12 ) In coalgate, it takes the “low cost of CIL” to benchmark, while in Delhi airport case, it takes the “high land price” of the Delhi.

    It’s like taking Hema malini’s face, Rakhi Sawant’s boobs, Deepika Padukones legs and Parveen babi’s *** and then comparing what’s missing in your wife.

    Here comes the BJP :

    1) BJP ruled states oppose the auction route in writing in 2005.

    2) Their own CM’s recommended private part’s case strongly to the Central Govt.

    3) Ajay Sancheti, the business partner of Gadhakari gets mines in MP in favourable terms. He gets quality coal mines at the lowest price.

    4) The BJP creates a hawa that the loss is not notional but actual.

    5) In 2009, the BJP tried “weak Prime Minister” slur. It didn’t stick. This time, they are trying ” Corrupt Prime Minister” slur, hoping some of it would stick.

    6) For public posturing, BJP can go down to any petty level. In last 10 days they have been shifting goals. First blame the PM directly taking money. Once exposed that it was the BJP ruled states actually opposed the move, they like ” shameless pimp on the Delhi GB Road” continued to grin and said the PM is morally and politically responsible for for their ( BJP ) own action. Yes, the country is looking forward to being ruled by these pimps.

    7) The BJP does not discuss or debate in the parliament. It eloquently talks in front of the TV camera.
    8) When the PM makes a detailed point wise statement, the BJP says the CAG report is not supposed to be discussed in the parliament. Only place where it can be discussed is at PAC !!!!!

    Here comes Vijay :

    1) Vinay, a supposed to be a friend of Vijay, asks for an honest opinion.

    2) Like BJP, the intelectually dishonest political party who can’t afford to be honest with itself for their pubic stated position, Vijay too can’t be even honest with himself or his own friends.

    3) Vijay feeds his friend Vinay that 10% bribes story. Forgetting the fact out of 4 states, 2 states are BJP ruled states and 4th one was Communist ruled WB.

    4) Vijay keeps dancing in Jitendra’s white shoes exactly like those BJP politicians.

    5) Vijay has proved intellectually dishonest most of the time despite his so called IIT education. He has not differentiated in any manner from those half-literate BJP street slogan shouters, not even amongst a small set of friends.

    ===

    Note :***

    1 ) A parent feels bad when he sees his child starts indulging in bad things.

    2) But when the child becomes a confirmed bad character, the parent has no choice but support the child’s bad activities. Infact he starts defending and taking pride in his child’s activities/achievement because the child is capable of bring (bad) name through those activities only.

    *** This is for Ishwar who was feeling uncomfortable with BJP’s behaviour few days back but now takes pride in them thinking the disruption of the parliament as a “master stroke”.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Thanks pathak G for the nice long reply.

    I am now again in a 2 week long writing a book/ business travel mode from tomorrow evening and maybe would have a slightly curtailed presence, depending on the internet connectivitly. But would certainly answer this one…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Would we really see any qualitative difference in your reply ?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Yes as always it would be honest, close to the truth and would have no spin.

    If your heart and ideals are correct you dont have to abuse anybody

    Anonymous Reply:

    We will wait holding our breath.

    vijay ! Reply:

    That is what is taught in Ramdev pranayam !

    Anonymous Reply:

    I prefer Art of Living Kriyas.

    vijay ! Reply:

    ok ! Going for my jog now. Nothing like joggin 30 minutes. Gets ur blood circulation on…

    vijay ! Reply:

    Art of living guru Sr sri has been attacked y your guru– Digviansh Singh

    Anonymous Reply:

    A long, boring post, full of quarter truths divided by 10.

    A nice attempt to white wash the UPA and its black faced PM.

    But the guilt and corruption cannot be washed away by attacking CAG and opposition in parliament.

    Best way out for the black faced PM and his white goddess mataji is to pack up wholesale and call for fresh elections.

    Even to the most apolitical aam aadmi, it has become clear that this government is a spent force.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Not only BJP politicians must be black faced, but also be made to sit on Vijay’s donkey friends and paraded on the street with chinese crackers on the tail.

    May be you can lead the parade.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But, for heaven’s sake do not leave your lap top to engrich or Amangalam Ravi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I’m loving it. Would respond after 2 pm today.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Don’t wait for a counter-reply in a hurry. I am off to work now.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Pathak G

    Is that work in the COngress office where counter replies are being framed to the corruption charges?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am ready with my response. It took me an hour to write it.

    +++++++++++
    Coalgate
    +++++++++++

    1. The allocation of coal blocks didn’t begin in 1998. Congress was in power before NDA and the same method was being used since 1993. Why it wasn’t a big deal then? The difference between the cost of coal imported and the one mined in India wasn’t big enough to make a huge profit and hence not many were interested in mining. CAG is smart enough to see through this reason and he has focussed his report on what happened after 2004 when the coal prices started moving up and there was an attempt by private players to win captive mines as imports were not cheap any more. Please see the attached image

    2. Yes, the UPA mooted the idea but it is also the one who scuttled it. The idea was mooted in June 2004 and there was a note from PMO in September 2004 which detailed the disadvantages of allocation of coal through competetive bidding. (Page 23 CAG report)

    3. Please read Mr. Saxena’s post above which very clearly states the responsibility of the decision maker – irrespective of the suggestion offered by anyone.

    4 and 5. If the BJP ruled state CM’s reasons were not right, why did you accept them? There was no coalition-compulsion there.

    6. Even if the screening committee was well represented by members of different states, it did not ensure transparency. The CAG has castigated the screening committee. It says there in nothing on record to suggest how one applicant was chosen over the other by them.

    7. Sasan – Ambani issue: same reply as point 3. In case you are suggesting that the MP state CM made money by recommending allowing Reliance to move excess coal elsewhere, what did the central govt. do about it?

    8, 9 and 10. Again the same excuse. We did it because the BJP ruled state CM’s wanted this. Today, if the same CM’s want the PM to resign, would he do that? No – lets not use this arguement anymore. You had the power to decide and you could have always over-ruled the CM’s recommendation if they didn’t have valid reasons.

    +++++++
    Background of CIL
    +++++++

    Yes, the CIL operates all the mines. But, aren’t the private operators supposed to be more efficient than any ’sarkari’ organisation. If the CIL has the advantage of experince, the private players have the advantage of better technology and professional workforce. Why else do we need to give away the coal-blocks to them?

    +++++++++++++
    Here comes the CAG
    +++++++++++++

    The post is getting too long. Let me club some answers. You are casting aspersions on the CAG now. The Congress has its appointee in most constitutional bodies – even the incumbent CAG has been appointed by them. So, what the point? If his report is against you (remember – the CAG has not said nothing about the role of state CM’s), sack him.

    Just because something (wrong or right) was done under the NDA regime and under Congress regime too before them, it doesn’t give you a licence to continue. Circumstances change and we need to evolve.

    7 and 8. The cost to private players can’t be any more than CIL. if they were as inefficient as CIL, we ddidn’t need to give away coal-blocks to them. They could have stayed with the government. The CAG would of course give you the maximum amount of revenue lost – the actual production could well be 40%. No one is saying, the figures are sacrosanct.

    Rest…. If you don’t agree with the CAG figures because of the methodology, that could be talked about separately. First, make it clear if there has been a loss (amount could be achieved by the means of your choice) or there has been zero-loss!!!

    ++++++++
    Here comes the BJP
    ++++++++

    Yes. the BJP rules state CM’s suggested continuing the allocation route. They explained there reasons in the letter to the Min. of Coal. If they were not good enough, you could have sent them to a dustbin.

    You are suggesting that Sancheti got a mine in MP. Would you care to let us know so as to how many mines did the Jindals get?

    The BJP is not creating the hawa. If you give away the mines, the loss in not notional anymore – it is real. The amount of loss could be debated. NDA lost elections in 2009 – it doesn’t automatically make the PM strong. There were other reasons. MMS has himself admitted to coalition compulsions and inducted Shinde as HM because of his loyalty to MadamG. Are these signs of strength?

    Yes, I did want them to discuss it in the parliament to begin with. That’s the most rational thing to do. However, as a political party, you need to take some decisions keeping in mind the electoral dividend. The longer this issue stays alive, the better the dividend. A one day discussion in parliament would not have had the same result.

    ++++++++++++
    Here comes Team Anna
    ++++++++++++

    There strategy has been right to begin with. They wanted change in the law/system to curb corruption. Who can do this – the party in power or the one is opposition? Hence, Kiran Bedi is right in saying that they should protest only against the ruling party for having failed to bring a strong LokPal bill.

    ++++++++++
    Some Interesting facts
    ++++++++++

    1. I know about hotel occupancy rates. The CIL mines may operate at 40% and the CAG may have calculated it based on 100%. However, if the private players were as inefficient as the CIL, why do we need to give away our scarce resource to them at the first place?

    2. 26% would come to the govt as tax – agreed.

    3. 20% would be used for development of local area. Where is this mentioned in the present allocation contract? It might be the case when the MMDR bill becomes a law. It’s not a law yet.

    4. Well, the country has lost it already – the private parties can make profits over 25 years or 100 years, that’s besides the point.

    5. Why do you fight elections against the NDA if you intend to do the same thing as they were doing anyways?

    6. The PM brought the auction route when the horse had already bolted. How many mines have been given away through auctions – only one. It clearly means that those who wanted it got it under the allocation route under the leadership of an honest PM.

    +++++
    Here comes Ishwar
    +++++

    I agree that I wanted the BJP to debate things in parliament, but they had something else in mind. I don’t fault them for this – after all, we are in politics.

    Now, a couple straight questions (Yes or No) for you PathakG.

    a) Is this a scam?
    b) Has there been a loss?
    c) Did the BJP make money?
    d) Are you ready to have the allocation cancelled?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Brilliant. I am loving it. I read every word you have written carefully.

    You have covered all the ground fully, efficiently and cogently, giving absolutely factual and befitting reposte’s to Pathakji’s biased, motivated and save-congress-from-any-kind of-scandal commitment.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Ishwar
    ..great post

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Ishwar a great rebuttal !

    I think you have answered on behalf of many of us!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Superb reply. Waiting for a attack from Pathak.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    PathakG is probably scanning the pages of HamaraCongress to find the answers. Just having some fun till the time PathkG comes back and pull the carpet below my feet. :D :D

    Anonymous Reply:

    Some scanning help :

    ————————–
    The MOC introduced the system of bank guarantee (BG) in March 2005 to ensure timely production. The audit observed that there was a delay in introducing BG and linking it with milestones. This meant that BG could not be applied for 46 blocks allocated before 2005, and penalty for not meeting milestones could not be imposed for 118 blocks allotted before July 2007. In the absence of any accounting methodology, MOC could not cash BG amounting to Rs 13 crore against six blocks. As of November 2011, BGs amounting to Rs 312 crore in respect of 15 blocks had lapsed and were not renewed.
    ——————–

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Ishwar

    Nice attempt. I liked your approach to attempt it with all seriousness.
    The form is nice. The content is slightly messy.

    It also gives a me a preview of your general approach you might be adopting while dealing with situation in your professional life. You would have had a tough time if I were your boss.

    1)

    Read the summary of CAG Report. This is one page report summary. I am sure you read it, but chose not to highlight the points.

    Vijay is too lazy. Your other friends never had the inclination.

    **************************************

    The Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) released a Performance
    Audit of Allocation of Coal Blocks and Augmentation of Coal Production,
    on August 17, 2012. Some of the main findings and recommendations of
    the report are highlighted below:

    There were no criteria for allocating coal blocks for captive mining
    till 1993. The process of bringing in transparency and objectivity
    began in January 2004. However, the process has experienced delays and
    had yet to materialise as of February 2012.

    In the intervening period, 194 coal blocks with geological reserves
    of 44,440 million tonnes were allocated to private and government
    parties until March 31, 2011. The report finds that the benefit to
    private allottees has been estimated at Rs 1.86 lakh crore for Opencast
    mines. The report states that the government could have tapped some of
    this financial benefit by expediting the decision on competitive bidding
    for allocation of coal blocks.The rate of increase in production of coal by Coal India Limited (CIL) during the 11th
    Plan period remained below the target set by the Planning Commission.
    Capacity addition projects were delayed due to the lack of coordination
    of government agencies involved in statutory clearances and land
    acquisition. There were mismatches in excavation and transportation
    capacities of mines, and suboptimal use of Heavy Earth Moving Machinery.The CAG recommends that Ministry of Coal (MOC) should work out
    modalities to implement the procedure of allocation of coal blocks for
    captive mining through competitive bidding.The CAG recommends that the MOC should constitute an empowered group
    along the lines of Foreign Investment Promotion Board as a single
    window mechanism for granting clearances, with representatives from
    central nodal ministries and state governments.

    A one-page summary of the main findings and recommendations can be accessed here. The full report can be accessed on the CAG website.
    *********************************************************
    1) Read the first paragraph.
    ======
    There were no criteria for allocating coal blocks for captive mining
    till 1993. The process of bringing in transparency and objectivity
    began in January 2004. However, the process has experienced delays and
    had yet to materialise as of February 2012.
    ======
    The process of bringing in transparency and objectivity
    began in January 2004. However, the process has experienced delays and
    had yet to materialise as of February 2012.

    The delay occured because of the non-participation of the BJP states in the proposed auction process. The report does mention the “DELAY ” part.

    If the CAG was so smart to see through the things, I am sure the CAG saw the letters written by the BJP rules state CM’s.

    [ Special Note for you : Do not read or produce anything selectively. I write something in great details, I can respond in great details too. ]

    2 ) Internal discussion and observations do not mean “scuttling” the process. Despite the stiff resistance by the BJP CM’s, the UPA Govt pursued the competitive bidding idea.

    Even the CAG admits it in its one page summary report. [ The process of bringing in transparency and objectivity
    began in January 2004. ]

    [ Special Note for you : Never ignore the fact which is too obvious. It may with others, not with me.]

    3) Like you, Mr Saxena read the provisions selectively. Perhaps he didn’t read “Administrative instruction” fully. He couldn’t differentiate when Administrative instruction could be really used.

    But I am glad you didn’t subscribe to his views fully and passed on the credit ( along with the liabilities ) to Mr Saxena.

    Here’s some fact
    =====

    Administrative Instructions
    Administrative Instructions were initially created under section 19 of the Public Service Act 1978.
    Although this Act has been repealed, section 19 of the Act has been
    preserved as ‘Administrative Instructions’ by Schedule 5 – General
    Transitional Provisions of the Public Sector Management Act 1994.

    Though the majority of Administrative Instructions have been
    repealed—replaced by a Commissioner’s instruction, public sector
    standard, approved procedure or regulation—six Administrative
    Instructions continue to be in force:

    102 – Official Communications601 – Sick Leave610 – Effects of Grants of Leave & Period of Suspension on Salary & Leave Entitlements706 – Weekend Attendance at Work711 – Official Information728 – Media & Public Communications
    The following Administrative Instructions have been repealed as of 3 July 2012:

    707 – Obligations of an officer712 – Fees, rewards and gratuities726 – Private employment============

    Is allocation Coal Blocks, where we have PPP, a Public Sector Management Process ?

    Perhaps, Mr Saxena didn’t know. But you could have researched like you always do ? But you didn’t. You conveniently ( rather lazily ) piled on Mr Saxena’s views.

    I had already mentioned in my original post, that the coal allocation through Administrative instructions could be challenged in court and could have put the Govt. in serious problem challenging its intention.
    So not taking the Administrative Instruction was right and appropriate decision.

    [ Special Notes for you : Rely on your own intelligence and diligence. ]

    4)
    ========

    You wrote :

    4 and 5. If the BJP ruled state CM’s reasons were not right, why did you accept them? There was no coalition-compulsion there.
    =======

    I expected a far better logic from you to counter my argument. This is on the border of being silly.

    [ Special Note for you : When you make a serious attempt to write, avoid these kind of cliches. It does not add value to your intelligence.]

    6. The screening committee was a better option in place of any competitive bidding process. This is nothing new or out of this world. As I have said before this was completely dominated by the BJP ruled state official because BJP unfortunately rules those states. So they have all the explanations to do.

    [ Special Note for you : I am sure you always knew the roles of the officials in this committee. But you chose to answer and differ without any basis. Avoid. In future I may ignore if you continue to take such positioning. Because it's not worth thr time and effort to reply for the heck of it.]

    7) It’s like saying ” Okay we stole…but you didn’t catch…so the problem is with you, not with us.

    [ Special Note for you : Asking pointed question is good. But you must know where to point the finger. ]

    8 ) If the Central Govt. could decide arbitrarily and single handedly, this country could have had GST and NIA full implementation long time back.

    This is the same opposition who doesn’t want want fully integrated National Security umbrella for their petty politics.

    [ Special Note for you : This is the fourth time you are taking similar alibi. That's why I said your form looked good, but the content was messy. If deliberate, then see the pattern and avoid. ]

    Everything else do not merit any answer really, particulatly when I am tied up with serious work.

    Your Rapid fire Question Round :

    a) Is this a scam?
    b) Has there been a loss?
    c) Did the BJP make money?
    d) Are you ready to have the allocation cancelled?

    a) No
    b) Partly, wherever the mines have been given away at throwaway prices.
    c) Gadkari personally benefitted from Sanchati’s case
    d) Cancel the allocation to the Private parties and put on auction

    ********************************************************************
    I am more than happy to see you actively participating in debates on this blog. As I had said before I would love you to lead the debates long after I and people of my age retire from this blog. So I truly happy about your effort.

    But I think you still try to take an easy route by depending heavily on the “form” rather than the “content”.

    Most probably you get away with your lazy managers. But this is a trap many fall for. Avoid. I would love to see you sharpen your attack with much stronger logic.

    *******************************************************************

    *** Sorry for replying late. Too much work load.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    6.30 am : I posted my reply/
    8.30am : Somebody flagged. It was deleted.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    It is fundamental tenet of Administrative Law , in India , that if powers and responsibilities are vested in a particular authority , by Law and Rules framed thereunder , then that Authority alone is liable for discharge of those duties. The liability of wrongful exercise or negligence in rightful exercise shall rest fully on that authority. In the course of discharge , he may consult or take opinions from others, but the duty and responsibility shall be his.
    But the present PM of India puts forth a strange and now familiar defence all the time , he always blames others for all his own wrong-doing. So in case of 2G it was the ally and coalition politics. In the case of that CVC Thomas.. full facts were not placed before him. In the case of CWG ..it was due to shortage of time and national prestige .. and in the case of Coalgate it was letters written by 3 BJP CMs and the Union Law Ministry, compulsions of democracy , objections of stakeholders , etc etc.No wonder he proudly relies on his own “Khamoshi” as the remedy of all his problems …as he thinks that he owes a duty only to self … or to the lady who appointed him … but none towards the Nation.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Brilliant.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    MMS has forgotten that he is PM of India. He is talking like a typical
    husband who has no choice but to remain always khamosh in front of his
    wife.

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  • Anonymous

    Kapil Sibal is the happiest man in the whole of the marooned UPA ministry today.

    He now has Chidambaram to giove him company. Earlier Sibal was all alone in the “zero loss” group. Now Chidambaram too says zero loss in coalgate” scandal and the tag somehow has stuck, despite a hurried “maine aisa toh nahin kahaa thaa” kind of denial.

    The rest of the ministers are all zeroes.

    Has anybody noticed the colour of Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh’s face yesterday, when he attacked the CAG and the opposition for all the corruption under his own watch in the coal ministry?

    It was black.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Shenoy Saab
    Apna munh kala karne ki kala mein Congress se bada koi kalakaar nahin.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Saxena sahab;
    good use of kala and Kaala.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji, Praveen Saxenaji,

    yes, inki kalaa aur kalayionka safai aur kisi mein bhi nahin hai.

  • Anonymous

    Couldn’t join you guys as something wrong with my internet connection at
    my residence. Here is joke of the day.

    Aunty: Tum mujhe nanga dekh kar bhag kyun gaye?
    Papu : Mummy ne kaha tha ki nangi aurat dekhne se insaan pathar ka ho jata
    hai, aur mera ek hissa sakht hone laga tha .

    Good day gentlemen.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Now that the PM of India has made it official ….that whatever the nature of the crisis or the issue which confronts the country … the nation will only have his “Khamoshi” in return…. ( He finds great virtue in his “Khamoshi”.)
    The wretched Indian .. the UPA loves to call him the “Aam Aadmi “asks .. why is he being made to pay Rs 1.30 lacs per month to Mr Pankaj Pachauri , the gentleman the PM has appointed as his Media Adviser in his Office.
    Needless to say … the PM also has a seperate PR set-up in the PIB.

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  • Anonymous

    NaMo’s stand more credible than liberal rage

    http://www.niticentral.com/2012/08/namos-stand-more-credible-than-liberal-rage.html

    In December of 2007, Karan Thapar wrote a column in the Hindustan Times with
    hateful rhetoric against Narendra Modi, using phrases like “sudden removal of
    Narendra Modi”. In July of 2010, Vir Sanghvi, writing in a column, called
    Narendra Modi a Serbian war criminal. This, after routinely slandering Modi as a
    “mass murderer” and likening him to Hitler.

    In fact, one has lost count of the number of hate-filled columns written by
    assorted Left-liberal and Muslim commentators repeating the Hitler slur. Leave
    alone the amount of abuse and personal slander, including explicit threats, that
    come Modi’s way across social media on a daily basis.

    Hence it was amusing to see celebrity television anchors and assorted voices
    in social media cry hypocrisy over Modi’s decision to protest the Sonia
    Gandhi-led UPA’s clumsy attempt at political censorship of the Internet.
    Narendra Modi protests censorship by UPA

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    it is interesting how the two “most secular among secular editors”, Karan Thapar and Vir Sanghvi are doing.

    Karan Thapar is busy staying relevant, while an unrelenting media is busy pushing him to the ice age.

    Vir Sanghvi is trying hard to come out of the dustbin of history into which the Radia tapes had thrown him.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Vir Sanghvi now hangs around Bangkok. Saw him there six months back and I chatted him for a minute or two. He says he loves the place ….

    Well it is a very interesting dustbin to hang around !

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  • Anonymous

    “The Chawla committee asks for an overthrow of this nexus. But that would mean that the presidential reference the government made to the Supreme Court in February this year will become null and void. The reference made in the context of the 2G scam had questioned whether the government needed to be bound by such rules of allocation for every sector.
    It is strange that the same government that put up this reference has to now defend the reverse position — that it believes in an auction-based allocation for the coal sector. In other words, just six months after the government suggested that it need not follow the telecom model of auctions for other sectors, the prime minister has told Parliament that he has firmly supported auction for coal…………”

    A VERY GOOD ARTICLE IN THE INDIAN EXPRESS.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/ambivalent-about-auctions/994186/0

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  • Anonymous

    Who killed economic growth — Sonia

    What Tony Joseph says is what we all have been saying; but nice to hear from one more

    http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/tony-joseph-who-killed-growth-/484394/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It was also there on rediff yesterday – it says the Sonia led NAC only talks about giving away doles. It has no idea for growth. Sonia G hasn’t been able to align the allies in support of the reforms needed by the country.

    Good one.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    we have been saying the same thing since quite some. Ms. Gandhi does not know ABC of economics and she has the full power to spend government money as per her whims and no one has an iota of courage to question her.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    I hope BJP can come to power in 2014.. However, it looks like that they will become an enabler of another Congress govt in 2014 without a cohesive plan, integrated leadership/communication etc!

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Who killed economic growth — Sonia

    What Tony Joseph says is what we all have been saying; but nice to hear from one more

    http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/tony-joseph-who-killed-growth-/484394/

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  • Anonymous

    Over 8000 quintals of wheat, rice missing: Officials

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Over-8000-quintals-of-wheat-rice-missing-Officials/articleshow/15894159.cms

    This is from the state where a minister had allowed his people to steal little.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Peanuts!!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Peanuts for peanut-sized brains, indeed!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    8 Lakh Crore ton “SIEGED” iron ore out of 35 lakh crore tonnes have been sold illegally ( yes vanished ) in Karnataka recently.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes you right, I only steal because you are also a thief.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    A historically quiet, mixed (Muslim/non religious Russian) area of Kazan (in Russia) experiences Islamic insurgency – moderates being targeted.. Russia/Putin does not know what to do..

    I guess what you guys experience in India – Assam riots, Azad Maidan riot etc – is a part of this worldwide jehadi movement spearheaded by extremist Muslims

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/world/europe/radical-islamic-attacks-in-moderate-region-unnerve-kremlin.html?pagewanted=all

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like RSS hand behind this. Mohan Bhagwat and Nitin Gadkari
    should be extradited to Russia.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    With one condition. They should be allowed to wear woollen dresses instead of the khaki knicker and kaali topi, because of the extreme cold.

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    My hunt on Google maps shows that the two guys from Tora Bora are there now…,

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The Wahabi extremism is a real international threat..

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    What a lovely combination.

    A Hindu President

    Muslim Vice President

    Sikh Prime Minister

    Christian Defence Minister

    With an Italian Remote Controller.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    And a Swiss banker!
    Enough to bankrupt the country.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    And Dalit CM’s.

    And CM’s, native of gayuna and lesbea

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you want me to add a Dalit.

    Dalit Home Minister

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    You started it. Who am I to ask you to add !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Since I am a very religious person, I only mentioned religion of our people holding top positions. You insisted on adding caste aslo so I had no choice but to oblige you.

    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    I didn’t know “italian” was a religion in your dictionary.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please don’t compare SoniaG with these small people like
    President, PM, CM and all. She is above all of them that is why all these are controlled by this great lady.

  • Anonymous

    Caught between a rock and a hard place!

    http://www.niticentral.com/2012/08/caught-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place.html

    Congress president Sonia Gandhi’s belligerence has backfired.
    She accused the main Opposition party of holding the Government to “ransom by
    blackmail, which has become the political bread and butter of the BJP”, only to
    provoke an acerbic response from Arun Jaitley, Leader of Opposition in the Rajya
    Sabha: “A government whose integrity has been painted black in the coal deals
    cannot be blackmailed. The staple diet of Congress ever since Bofors has been
    kickbacks and commissions

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Seriously, why do we need to have a boring debate in LS and RS when it is so much fun in front of obliging TV cameras and prime time coverage.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not sure whether BJP complaints and tactics will get them any new votes in 2014.

    Everybody in the country knows the ineptitude and corruption within congress. A better strategy may be to articulate how wiil they be different, while exerting some pressure and holding Congress to its feet.

    A constant cry for resignation is just that – a constant cry, like the proverbial story of the child screaming wolf.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi ji, the strategy is working.

    Since it has managed to get SoniaG agitated, it means that the heat has finally reached the top. I don’t see much of a need to articulate how the party would be different. The action and performance of the NDA state govts. is there for all to see and compare. A formal programme of course would be announced nearer the election time.

    The stalemate in parliament has managed to keep the issue alive long enough for it to reach the common man through its 24X7 coverage on TV channels. Let this scam stick to the famous three 2G, CWG and Adarsh and we move on and wait for the next to be uncovered and en-cashed.

    ‘Mota-Maal’ remark was deliberately made for the same purpose.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Yes, looks like this time their strategy is working. Sonia Gandhi is clearly rattled, twice she has lost her calm composure in few days.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Foreign origin”, “weak PM”, also seemed to have got the brilliant strategy going.

    All the best.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Now no more weak PM. It is Khamosh PM.

    Anonymous Reply:

    When he hits, guys run for cover.

    Remember how Advani sat in chair tongue tied, when MMS hit him in the Parliament?

    After that Advani stopped calling him the Weakest/weaker/weak PM ?

    Actually BJP is lato ka bhoot….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Has the PM not admitted on more than one occasion that he did something due to coalition compulsion and recently inducted Shinde Sahab as the FM because of his loyalty to SoniaG – are these signs of a strong PM?

  • vijay !

    ========================================================================
    ~~~ some idiots shouted RSS IN MUMBAI MAR JAWAN JYOTI desecration~~
    —————————————————————————————————————–

    Here is the truth

    from NDTV

    =============

    Mumbai: One of the two alleged rioters, who had vandalised the iconic Amar Jawan memorial during the August 11 violence here, was today arrested, taking the total number of arrests in the case to 54, police said today.

    “Abdul Quadir Mohammed Younus Ansari (19), an unemployed youth, was picked up from Sitamarhi in Bihar yesterday. Ansari, who had damaged the Amar Jawan Jyoti memorial, was preparing to flee to Nepal by crossing the border when he was apprehended,” said Joint Police Commissioner (crime) Himanshu Roy.

    Another accused Nazir Noor Mohammed (35), who had sustained a bullet injury while clashing with policemen on the day of the violence, was nabbed after being discharged from the government-run J J hospital, police said.

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  • Anonymous

    A good British based charity assisting run away kids – Railway Children.
    Apparently doing a good job in India, keeping India’s children on track! Please connect with them and contribute what you can.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/british-charity-keeps-indias-young-on-track/2012/08/28/0c2d3c22-f12a-11e1-a612-3cfc842a6d89_story.html

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    The posts are as old as 2 hours. What is happening, at this hour, when Tryst with destiny, Indians are sleeping? Kabza group has taken over the Indian state, in the name of democracy and secularism, and everyone is sleep walking? When, even, Pakis are wakening up, Indians continue to sleep??. HT of yore, and present day HT, mouth piece of congress, writing all the BS with paid jouranilism??? No faith in Sonia, not even an iota.Faith in Rajeev, 25%, Faith in Indira 50%, faith in Jawaharlal, 90%, but he was more idealist than real person. Faith in Patel, 100%. MK Gandhi, he was not a worldly man, he was from stratosphere..

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    The posts are as old as 2 hours. What is happening, at this hour, when Tryst with destiny, Indians are sleeping? Kabza group has taken over the Indian state, in the name of democracy and secularism, and everyone is sleep walking? When, even, Pakis are wakening up, Indians continue to sleep??. HT of yore, and present day HT, mouth piece of congress, writing all the BS with paid jouranilism??? No faith in Sonia, not even an iota.Faith in Rajeev, 25%, Faith in Indira 50%, faith in Jawaharlal, 90%, but he was more idealist than real person. Faith in Patel, 100%. MK Gandhi, he was not a worldly man, he was from stratosphere..

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Read Amaresh Mishra in TOI. This BB, speaks lot of history but avoid illegal immigration and the root cause of problem in NE. another Sarkari journo/ writer.
    Again involve RSS and such people here. beyond comprehension.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ask Ashish about this gentleman Amaresh Mishra. He is Kumbh ke mele mein khoya hua brother of Engrich/Tajender.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Why men always twist their wedding ring ?
    They are trying to find the combination.

    Good morning friends.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is a psychological thing.
    If the wife turns him on her little finger clockwise, he turns the ring anti-clockwise. And vice versa.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Somebody has a problem with my reply to Ishwar’s query !
    The post is getting deleted even after 4-5 attempts !!!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    In one of your earlier blogs, you had suggested that even Chidambaram is a crypto-BJP man. In fact, many in the congress believe this.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Where do you get this silly ideas ?

    please go to the washroom and wash your eyes properly. Still half-asleep !

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    At least, the second part of my post is true.

  • IamNOTpathakG

    4)
    ========

    You wrote :

    4 and 5. If the BJP ruled state CM’s reasons were not right, why did you accept them? There was no coalition-compulsion there.
    =======

    I expected a far better logic from you to counter my argument. This is on the border of being silly.

    [ Special Note for you : When you make a serious attempt to write, avoid these kind of cliches. It does not add value to your intelligence.]

    6. The screening committee was a better option in place of any competitive bidding process. This is nothing new or out of this world. As I have said before this was completely dominated by the BJP ruled state official because BJP unfortunately rules those states. So they have all the explanations to do.

    [ Special Note for you : I am sure you always knew the roles of the officials in this committee. But you chose to answer and differ without any basis. Avoid. In future I may ignore if you continue to take such positioning. Because it's not worth thr time and effort to reply for the heck of it.]

    7) It’s like saying ” Okay we stole…but you didn’t catch…so the problem is with you, not with us.

    [ Special Note for you : Asking pointed question is good. But you must know where to point the finger. ]

    8 ) If the Central Govt. could decide arbitrarily and single handedly, this country could have had GST and NIA full implementation long time back.

    This is the same opposition who doesn’t want want fully integrated National Security umbrella for their petty politics.

    [ Special Note for you : This is the fourth time you are taking similar alibi. That's why I said your form looked good, but the content was messy. If deliberate, then see the pattern and avoid. ]

    Everything else do not merit any answer really, particulatly when I am tied up with serious work.

    Your Rapid fire Question Round :

    a) Is this a scam?
    b) Has there been a loss?
    c) Did the BJP make money?
    d) Are you ready to have the allocation cancelled?

    a) No
    b) Partly, wherever the mines have been given away at throwaway prices.
    c) Gadkari personally benefitted from Sanchati’s case
    d) Cancel the allocation to the Private parties and put on auction

    ********************************************************************
    I am more than happy to see you actively participating in debates on this blog. As I had said before I would love you to lead the debates long after I and people of my age retire from this blog. So I truly happy for your effort.

    But I think you still try to take an easy route by depending heavily on the “form” rather than the “content”.

    Most probably you get away with your lazy managers in office with this approach. But this is a trap many fall for. Avoid. I would love to see you sharpen your attack with much stronger logic.

    *******************************************************************

    *** Sorry for replying late. Too much work load.

    [Reply]

    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    *********************************************************
    1) Read the first paragraph.
    ======
    There were no criteria for allocating coal blocks for captive mining
    till 1993. The process of bringing in transparency and objectivity
    began in January 2004. However, the process has experienced delays and
    had yet to materialise as of February 2012.
    ======
    The process of bringing in transparency and objectivity
    began in January 2004. However, the process has experienced delays and
    had yet to materialise as of February 2012.

    The delay occured because of the non-participation of the BJP states in the proposed auction process. The report does mention the “DELAY ” part.

    If the CAG was so smart to see through the things, I am sure the CAG saw the letters written by the BJP rules state CM’s.

    [ Special Note for you : Do not read or produce anything selectively. I write something in great details, I can respond in great details too. ]

    Also note :

    2 ) Internal discussion and observations do not mean “scuttling” the process. Despite the stiff resistance by the BJP CM’s, the UPA Govt pursued the competitive bidding idea.

    Even the CAG admits it in its one page summary report. [ The process of bringing in transparency and objectivity
    began in January 2004. ]

    [ Special Note for you : Never ignore the fact which is too obvious. It may with others, not with me.]

    3) Like you, Mr Saxena read the provisions selectively. Perhaps he didn’t read “Administrative instruction” fully. He couldn’t differentiate when Administrative instruction could be really used.

    But I am glad you didn’t subscribe to his views fully and passed on the credit ( along with the liabilities ) to Mr Saxena.

    Here’s some fact
    =====

    Administrative Instructions
    Administrative Instructions were initially created under section 19 of the Public Service Act 1978.
    Although this Act has been repealed, section 19 of the Act has been
    preserved as ‘Administrative Instructions’ by Schedule 5 – General
    Transitional Provisions of the Public Sector Management Act 1994.

    Though the majority of Administrative Instructions have been
    repealed—replaced by a Commissioner’s instruction, public sector
    standard, approved procedure or regulation—six Administrative
    Instructions continue to be in force:

    102 – Official Communications601 – Sick Leave610 – Effects of Grants of Leave & Period of Suspension on Salary & Leave Entitlements706 – Weekend Attendance at Work711 – Official Information728 – Media & Public Communications
    The following Administrative Instructions have been repealed as of 3 July 2012:

    707 – Obligations of an officer712 – Fees, rewards and gratuities726 – Private employment============

    Is allocation Coal Blocks, where we have PPP, a Public Sector Management Process ?

    Perhaps, Mr Saxena didn’t know. But you could have researched like you always do ? But you didn’t. You conveniently ( rather lazily ) piled on Mr Saxena’s views.

    I had already mentioned in my original post, that the coal allocation through Administrative instructions could be challenged in court and could have put the Govt. in serious problem challenging its intention.
    So not taking the Administrative Instruction was right and appropriate decision.

    [ Special Notes for you : Rely on your own intelligence and diligence. ]

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    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    @ Ishwar

    Nice attempt. I liked your approach to attempt it with all seriousness.

    The form is nice ( Looks very diligent). The content is slightly messy.

    It also gives a me a preview of your general approach you might be adopting while dealing with situation in your professional life. You would have had a tough time if I were your boss.

    1)

    Read the summary of CAG Report. This is one page report summary. I am sure you read it, but chose not to highlight the points.

    Vijay is too lazy. Your other friends never had the inclination.

    **************************************

    The Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) released a Performance
    Audit of Allocation of Coal Blocks and Augmentation of Coal Production,
    on August 17, 2012. Some of the main findings and recommendations of
    the report are highlighted below:

    There were no criteria for allocating coal blocks for captive mining
    till 1993. The process of bringing in transparency and objectivity
    began in January 2004. However, the process has experienced delays and
    had yet to materialise as of February 2012.

    In the intervening period, 194 coal blocks with geological reserves
    of 44,440 million tonnes were allocated to private and government
    parties until March 31, 2011. The report finds that the benefit to
    private allottees has been estimated at Rs 1.86 lakh crore for Opencast
    mines. The report states that the government could have tapped some of
    this financial benefit by expediting the decision on competitive bidding
    for allocation of coal blocks.The rate of increase in production of coal by Coal India Limited (CIL) during the 11th
    Plan period remained below the target set by the Planning Commission.
    Capacity addition projects were delayed due to the lack of coordination
    of government agencies involved in statutory clearances and land
    acquisition. There were mismatches in excavation and transportation
    capacities of mines, and suboptimal use of Heavy Earth Moving Machinery.The CAG recommends that Ministry of Coal (MOC) should work out
    modalities to implement the procedure of allocation of coal blocks for
    captive mining through competitive bidding.The CAG recommends that the MOC should constitute an empowered group
    along the lines of Foreign Investment Promotion Board as a single
    window mechanism for granting clearances, with representatives from
    central nodal ministries and state governments.

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    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    @ All

    Please read my reply backward ( as posted). Read the 3rd post first and move up.

    Sorry for this.

    My posts are continuously being deleted after being flagged. Sorry for this extreme measure.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I 100% agree with you on one thing that you are not
    PathakG.

    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    haha…Couldn’t think of anything else.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Is it silly puzzle or sleazy gazal?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Enjoy your sleaze till it lasts.

    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    Somebody flagging as abuse report. Hope it’s not you !!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    I never abuse anyone.

    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    Could you please post my reply under your id ?
    Never mind. Leave it. Somebody is deliberately flagging the content, not the ID.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I did not copy what you had posted. Send me an email on
    melody_enterprises@hotmail.com. I will do it.

    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    it’s ok. Don’t worry. I will post again sometime during the lunch break ( Did I give this man some idea about the timing ????).

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, I can see that your posts are being deleted. I am wondering whether HT has been taken over by some BJP supporter.

    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    A Trojan Horse !!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    you are right. HT must have got disgusted with Vinod Sharma’s approach to the Coalgate scam and his severe and vicious attack on CAG. It is a good move by HT. Now all the chaddiwalas all over the world will read HT.

    As for NOT-PATHAK ji’s lament about censoring, here I agree with him the censoring wasd not at all necessary because Pathakji has only re-hashed his earlier choornam and made a kashaayam out of the same stuff.

  • IamNOTpathakG

    @ All

    Please read my reply below backward ( as posted). Read the 3rd post first and move up.

    Sorry for this.

    My posts are continuously being deleted after being flagged. Sorry for this extreme measure.

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  • Anonymous

    GOOD NEWS++++++++++++++++++++GOOD NEWS+++++++++++++
    _____———————————————____________________________-

    SCRAP COAL BLOCKS++++++++++++++SCRAP COAL BLOCKS

    CAG IS LIKELY TO SAY……………………………..Times of India Headline.

    I think the CAG will see to it that the PAC finds its recommendations on the cancellation of all “irregular” allotments eminently suitable in the present situation.
    It may also save the kursi for Manmohan Singh, at least for a few more months.

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  • Anonymous

    Former BJP minister Maya Kodnani, Bajrang Dal Leader Babu Bajrangi convicted in Gujarat riots.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Justice is being delivered in Gujarat. Sadly, its not the same case elsewhere.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    http://photos.mid-day.com/cartoons/cartoon-of-the-day/29082012-satish/

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I noticed this late – excellent stuff!!

    The “Mota-Maal” is a gem – catchy and effective.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    PathakG,

    Thanks for taking the trouble to continue the discussion. I have made a note of your suggestions regarding diligence and selective reading. We can revisit the issues discussed some other time but for the moment, let’s restrict to the rapid-fire questions.

    As per you:

    a) There is no scam but Gadkari made money. If the allocation were fair, how did he manged to personally benefit? When did the govt. learn about it and what has it done so far to book him for this offence?

    b) Some private players got the mines cheap because you have agreed to a partial loss. Is Congress ready to cancel the allocation to private players and start afresh with competitive bidding?

    For me as soon as you find those who made money out of this, book them, recover the loss and put the coal-blocks for auction, I am happy.

    [Reply]

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    The CVC had recieved a complaint regarding allotment of coal blocks , which after due examination was sent to the CBI under the provisions of the the Prevention of Corruption Act . The CBI after a preliminary Inquiry has registered a Regular case against some of the companies and officials concerned.
    Is it PathakG’s case that Gadkari and Sancheti are being investigated ? Or is that just his wish ? Or are the companies close to Congress bigwigs who are being investigated ? like the JINDALS who are using ASSOCHAM to fight their proxy war. Subodh Kant Sahay is another beneficiary. And some more names shall spill out as the Inquiry proceeds.
    It is not Ishwar who is trying to make out a partisan case but Shrimaan PathakG.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji is often given to flights of fancy, in which he mostly dreams about all BJP leaders being in jail.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A great cartoon.

  • Anonymous

    Digvijay demands quick execution of Ajmal Kasab.

    Strange coming from him. Was he not the same person who had claimed
    that 26/11 was RSS ki saazish and Hemant Karakre had called him just before
    he was killed by ‘RSS’.

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    It wont happen mohan.

    2014 will come and the Congress will lose the elections. If Mulayam becomes the Pm as it may happen, he will never take the decision.

    If Congress executes Kasab, it will take care to announce life imprisonment for 10 HIndus on the same day.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think he is demanding Kasab’s quick execution, because Digvinash believes that Kasab is a Brahmin. Remember he had a tilak and sacred thread on his wrist?

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Nahin pata Gadkari ne paise banaya ya Sonia ne in koylo ki khano se
    Dukh hota, gussa aata hai jab sunta hoon aisi batein apne kano se
    Kab band karenge yeh chori chakari hamare raj neta
    kya poora Bharat khali ho gaya imandar or sache insano se.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    main hoon naa!

    [Reply]

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    PathakG sab jaante hain ….par such se door bhagte hain.
    Koyla se munh kaala karne walon se yaarana rakhte hain
    pehle 2g Ki gaatha likhtey they…par flop rahey
    ab Koyla ke bare mein likhtey hain ..koyla sa hi likhtey hain
    kyun aison ka saath detey hain jo sirf jeben bharna jaantey hain

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    wah, wah, Praveen Saxenaji, bahut khoob!!!!!!!

    [Reply]

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Hansu ya raun aap ki baat pe
    bina chutkula hansi aati hai aap ki soch pe;

    Mota maal khaakar Sushma ladh rahi thi reddys ke saath election mein,
    baat khuli toh haar dalti hai jaitley, anant ya sonia ke gale mein;

    Bade sudhre hue yeh BJP ke log,
    BJP mein rehke dete hain paisa congress ko lagake chhaunk;

    Saare BJP wale beek jaate hain chand paison ke liye,
    besaramon kaise naach rahe hain jaise daaru piye hue hain;

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  • Anonymous

    Kasab has been given death sentence.

    Rajiv Gandhi’s killers too were given death sentence.

    Lekin,,,………Lekin……………………

    Sonia Gandhi chahti hain ki unhe maaf kiya jae.

    Will she ask for mercy for Kasab too? Will Kasab live a hundred years to **** a snook at the whole of India? Kasab can be a very good vote bank politics.

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  • Anonymous

    Happy Onam to all!

    Malayalis celebrate Onam as a welcome ceremony for a mythological king, Mahabali, who ruled the region of present day Kerala during the “Vamana” incarnation of Lord Vishnu.
    Under Mahabali his citizenry was happy, nobody cheated, all were equal, . A Camelot before there was a Camelot..

    A giving king who would part with anything requested by a citizen/guest, he was banished to “pathala” by Vamana to protect the interests of Devas. He was given one boon; and he wanted to visit his “prajas” once a year to observe their happiness and well being. The mythology is that Mahabali visits our households during the Onam days.

    Well, Camelot no more..Our rulers steal instead of giving.

    Prof Vaidyanathan’s analysis on cheating by govt, politicians..the impact of bribes ..bribery is the biggest scam.

    http://www.firstpost.com/economy/real-scam-we-pay-rs-400000-cr-in-bribe-taxes-a-year-434656.html

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    A VERY HAPPY ONAM TO YOU AND ALL MALAYALEES.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    A very happy Onam to you.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Writer is right in saying that in India bribe is paid from womb to tomb.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    The congress has gone to town with its demand for Modi’s resignation because Maya Kodnani, a former minister in Modi’s government, has been convicted in the Naroda Patia case.

    They are hiding the fact that SHE WAS NOT A MINISTER IN MODI’S GOVERNMENT IN 2002!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    I could access the comments of PathakG which he said were being deleted . In those comments he had referred to certain statutes to contradict me on why the PM alone is responsible for the decisions taken by him. PathakG sirjee , could you please check again if those are Indian statutes. In your hurry I think you failed to check that . I had never heard of those statutes ever before. I Shall be grateful if you could enlighten me . Just to remind you ..the statutes you referred to were ” Public Sector Management Act 1994″ and “Public Service Act 1978″
    I wonder was that the reason why those Comments were deleted after they were posted ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Would love to read a reply from PathakG

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I tried to look them up on Google – there is no such thing in relation to India. Would have to wait for clarification from PathakG.

    Until then, your statement holds true and seems logical.

    You had said: The liability of wrongful exercise or negligence in rightful exercise shall rest fully on that authority. In the course of discharge , he may consult or take opinions from others, but the duty and responsibility shall be his.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I will join you guys over the weekend. We will sort it out.
    Please do remind me later. Can’t spare time now.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Please give me your email address, daily I will send you a reminder.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    you are asking for the nigoodha rahasya.

  • Anonymous

    When I was young I thought that money was the most important thing in life;

    Only now, in my old age I know
    +
    +
    +
    +
    that it is………………………………Oscar Wilde.

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  • Anonymous

    A word from Sonia Gandhi ensures uninterrupted power supply in Rae Bareli, Amethi.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/A-word-from-Sonia-Gandhi-ensures-uninterrupted-power-supply-in-Rae-Bareli-Amethi/articleshow/15935788.cms

    LUCKNOW: It’s not without reason that “Forbes” magazine recently ranked Congress president and UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi the sixth most powerful woman in the world. It needed only a word from her for Rae Bareli, her parliamentary constituency, to have uninterrupted power supply.

    Uttar Pradesh chief minister Akhilesh Yadav late on Tuesday issued orders to also ensure round-the-clock power supply to Amethi, the parliamentary constituency of Congress general secretary Rahul Gandhi.
    —————-

    Everybody should shift to Rai Bareli and Amethi.

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  • Anonymous

    The Edit page of today’s HT echoes my views:

    Let’s clear the air at once

    The government’s case is that it was stymied in Parliament when it tried to
    amend laws to ease commercial coal mining and was constrained by state
    governments, some ruled by opposition parties, and later by the advice of its
    legal department when it explored the option of reworking the administrative
    rules governing captive mines. Yet the accusation of arbitrariness refuses to go
    away when only a quarter of the allocated blocks are actually being mined today,
    producing less than half the originally projected coal. This weakens the
    contention that switching to auctions would have delayed the allocation process
    significantly.

    More can be read here:
    http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/Editorials/Let-s-clear-the-air-at-once/Article1-920893.aspx

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The writer also suggests the all the allocated coal blocks should be cancelled. However, the last line of the article is dangerous
    ” Our lawmakers must come together on national resources rather than bicker and quarrel as they are doing now.”
    Is he trying to suggest that all politicians should get the share in the loot.?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That seems to be the implicit message – not bad I must add!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr.Jekyll in HT and Mr.Hyde in this blog.

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  • Anonymous

    Shenoy Sahab,

    Earlier today you had posted something. You are almost right.
    There are talks that the allocation to private players is going to be cancelled. It’s not the CAG who has recommended but an Inter-Ministerial group. More on the link below:
    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/inter-ministerial-group-recommends-cancellation-of-licences-for-53-coal-blocks/1/215233.html

    I was wondering about its repercussions. In Bihar (now Jharkhand), people paid bribes to pass an exam or get a job. If the bribe-taker failed in getting the result, the bribe money had to be refunded. Even the ‘rishwat-khors’ were honest enough to refund.

    How does it work now? How much refund would be due after the cancellation of 2G licences and now coal-blocks?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    you are absolutely right. Even thieves have their ‘iman’.

    Sonia Gandhi has to refund the bribe taken for the allotment of blocks. May be she will arrange for overseas funds through Swiss banks and paid overseas.

    I had quoted a possible action by CAG as per Times report.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    TOI news,
    Conviction of Maya kondani, reduces chances of Modi as PM, Why??
    If 1984, massacre has not dimmed chances of Rajiv and so many illustrious of all hues, why single out Modi??
    Secualrist brigade and all those, again on overdrive???

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    HT has taken its revenge. HT is now being seen in a total new Avtar!!!.

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  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    A young sexy looking girl walks up to the bar and says in a sexy seductive voice, “May I please speak to your manager?” Barman , “Not right now, is there anything I can help you with?” She replies, “I don’t know if you are the man to talk to…its kind of personal…” Thinking he might get lucky, he said “I’m pretty sure I can handle your problem, miss.” She then looks at him with a smile, and puts two of her fingers in his mouth…and he begins sucking them, !” She said , “Can you give the manager a message for me?” The bartender nods…yes. “Tell him there’s no toilet paper in the ladies restroom.”

    Good morning friends.

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  • Anonymous

    Recently Manmohan Singh met Dhanush, the Tamil screen hero of Kolaveri Di fame.

    Here is the brief dialogue that took place between the two:

    MMS: Hi, I am Manmohan Singh, Prime Minister of India……..

    Dhanush: vanakkam Saar, I am S-I-L of, you know, Rajni Kanth.

    MMS: Rajni Kant? Oh, great. Tell me Dhanush, can Rajni solve one big problem for me?

    Dhanush: There isn’t any problem Rajni Saar cannot solve. Farmaan Pannungo Saar.

    MMS: (comes close and whispers) Can he finish off Sushmaji and Jaitley and Venkaiah and.. and …… and..Advani ….

    Dhanush: Even Advani Saar?

    MMS: OK, OK, leave Advani, OK,

    Dhanush: The list is long, but Rajni is great. Just wait, Saar, till 2014 elections.

    MMS: Vanakkam.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Yeterday Ved Marwah former Commissioner of Delhi Police was on CNN-IBN answering some questions of Karan Thapar on 1984 Riots . Ved Marwah disclosed the following on camera 1. He was broght in as Commissioner immediately after the Riots. 2. He was asked to investigate the failure of the Delhi Police in stopping those riots. and given 3 months to submit Report. He had collected a lot of records , phone/ wireless intercepts etc and had arrived at conclusions clearly pointing at coonivance of the Delhi Polce with the Rioters. 3. Just as he was about to submit the Final Report along with documentary evidence , he was asked by “someone important” to close that assignment . When asked who that authority was .. he refused to name. By looking the “adminstrative set-up” such official instruction could have come only from the Home Secretary. 4. Susequently all records and his Report were destroyed . Rajiv Gandhi was the PM of India at that time. 5. There werer certain other instances when the Delhi Police was prevented from proceeding against Bhagat and other Congress leaders.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen Saxenaji,

    Ved Marwah has only said what the people of India knew for the last 28 years that the Delhi police as also the CRPF and also the army were on hands off orders during the three days from day Indira was murdered and the Sikhs were being butchered.

    It is entirely in line with the general quality of bureaucrats that Ved Marwah kept quiet all these years and after squeezing every ounce of benefits and favours from the congress government, he thought it OK to open his mouth about the suppression of the most vital documents that could nail not only the congress bosses, but Rajiv Gandhi himself.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Shenoy Saab , Mohan bhai
    There would be fewer instances of civil servants standing up to political pressure for committing illegal acts or not performing their duty. There are far more of a spineless lot .. wanting to swim along. There a many more of them joining or even showing the way to loot and plunder. What can a political master do … on his own … without a bureaucrat preparing the file for him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It is a shame that
    Commissioner of Police can be coerced to not act.
    Now coming out with the facts after about 30 years will not serve any
    purpose. Shame on Delhi police for not having spine to stand up to
    political pressure.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    These are (late but) very serious charges made by Mr. Marwah. Is there an NGO or court that would take cognizance of his statement and book the guilty after having established the truth?

    Or, he is lying and Late Mr. Rajiv Gandhi was a saint and also a deserved recipient of Bharat Ratna?

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  • Anonymous

    A retired cop was in the planning of Azad Maidan riots. The riot was a planned one; not a spontaneous one as Raza has been saying

    http://www.mid-day.com/news/2012/aug/270812-mumbai-Did-retired-cop-invite-rioters-to-Azad-Maidan.htm

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  • Anonymous

    Muslim scientist, MBA, journalist, etc etc arrested in connection with terrorism…
    Poor Indian Muslims???

    Owaisi must be behind them!

    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/nation/south/bengaluru-police-bust-terror-%E2%80%98sleeper-cell%E2%80%99-11-held-505

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahadevan,

    From the day one there was no doubt that this was a very well planned riot. It is high time Congress stop playing vote bank policies and should seriously take some concrete steps to catch the perpetrators to send the strong message.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I hope the case against them is strong enough and it eventually leads to their prosecution.

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  • Anonymous

    A man was complaining to a friend, “I had it all – money, a magnificent house, a fast car, the love of a beautiful woman… then, poof! It was all gone!” “What happened?” asked the friend.
    ” I married thar woman’

    Good morning friends

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  • Anonymous

    Coalgate: Double gain for power producers?

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Coalgate-Double-gain-for-power-producers/articleshow/16024614.cms

    NEW DELHI: Is the government extending double benefit to some power producers by forcing Coal India Ltd (CIL) to sign fuel supply agreements (FSAs) with promoters who had already been allotted coal blocks?

    This is the question IIM-Ahmedabad director Samir Baruah, as an independent director on the CIL board, has raised ahead of a crucial management meeting on Friday to approve the model FSA.

    It would be myopic for (CIL) board to believe that coalgate has nothing to do with signing of FSAs. FSAs are clearly designed to bestow favours to chosen projects and producers of power. If they also appear to be those who received largesse from the government in terms of allotment of coal blocks then we would also be guilty of favours to the same set of projects/owners,” Baruah wrote in an e-mail to CIL company secretary M Viswanathan on August 28.

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  • Anonymous

    Urban India votes for Narendra Modi as PM

    In a survey conducted in 28 cities across the country by a Hindi news channel and Nielsen, Modi has emerged as the favourite ahead of even Rahul Gandhi and Bihar CM Nitish Kumar. While 42% of respondents wanted Modi as the next PM, only 29% were for Rahul Gandhi. Nitish Kumar got 12% in his favour.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Urban-India-votes-for-Narendra-Modi-as-PM/articleshow/16027606.cms

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The problem with this survey is that most of the people who took part in this never vote

    .

    never vote.

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  • Anonymous

    Since nothing is happening on this blog, let me share with you all what I read on a Pakistani website. A very long article.

    Why Muslims and Chinese hate Pakistan

    Pakistanis evoke highly negative emotions worldwide, including in Muslim majority countries, says a US survey. Not just the elites but the common Pakistani too is culpable in the country’s spectacular failure.
    It has never been easy being a Pakistani. Pick a terrorist act committed anywhere in the world and chances are it has Pakistani fingerprints all over it. In many places, the word ‘Pakistani’ is a four-letter word.
    So it must be a nasty kick in the guts for the Pakistanis to learn that their only allies, the Chinese, as well as the majority populations of several Muslim countries, including Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan and Lebanon, see them as a bunch of baddies.
    A survey of 21 countries released on June 27, 2012 by the United States-based Pew Research Center suggests that Pakistan is not only a universally disliked country but the Pakistanis themselves have learnt nothing from their history, continuing to support the very actors who are responsible for their country’s negative image.
    It is a measure of Pakistan’s penchant for exporting terrorists, counterfeit currency and drugs that India has constructed a 2043 km long steel fence across its border with its wayward western neighbour. The floodlit fence is so bright it can be seen from space as a bright orange line snaking from the Arabian Sea to Kashmir.
    Now Iran is building a 700-km steel and concrete security fence along its border with Pakistan “to prevent border crossing by terrorists and drug traffickers”. When complete it will make Pakistan the most fenced-in country in the world.
    You get the picture. Pakistan is not exactly a popular tourist destination.
    In four of the five predominantly Muslim nations covered by the American survey, over half give Pakistan negative ratings. Jordan (57 percent), Lebanon (56 percent), Tunisia (54 percent) and Egypt (53 percent) had an unfavourable opinion of Pakistan. The only exception is Turkey, where attitudes are divided (43 percent negative and 37 percent favourable).
    In East Asia, 52 percent of Chinese see Pakistan unfavourably, as do
    59 percent in Japan and 59 percent in India. The Chinese response is not surprising as Pakistan-trained Uighur Muslims have launched terror strikes in China. Japan, a nation historically distrustful of foreigners, decided not to take chances and deported more than 15,000 Pakistanis after 9/11.
    Runaway military most loved
    Every country has an army but the Pakistan Army has a country. The Pakistani military runs a $20 billion commercial empire that includes interests such as milk processing plants, bakeries, banks, cinemas, heavy industry and insurance. Plus a good chunk of the billions of dollars in American aid goes straight into the pockets of the generals.
    This corrupt empire is walled off from civilians. Defence analyst Ayesha Siddiqa, author of Military Inc: Inside Pakistan’s Military Economy, says there is little accountability and widespread siphoning of funds. The Pakistani military operates a virtual apartheid where an increasingly poor civilian population faces discrimination at virtually every level of national life – from jobs to pensions.
    Also, the Pakistani military has lost four wars against India. After each of these wars Pakistan lost territory and the generals their credibility. But bizarre as it sounds, this military is the most respected institution in the country. As many as 77 percent say the military has a good influence on the country, nearly the same percentage (79 percent) as last year. The Pakistanis are either very tolerant or very brainwashed.
    Sure, the military’s ratings have slipped from a high of 86 percent in 2009, but all it takes is one border flare-up for the ratings to travel north. The generals always oblige.
    The media comes next with a 68 percent rating, followed by religious leaders at 66 percent.
    President Asif Ali Zardari receives the most negative reviews. Only 12 percent believe he has a good influence, while 84 percent dislike him. Attitudes about Zardari are particularly negative in Punjab (96 percent bad influence) and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (95 percent).
    Why is he so unpopular? Well, Zardari has done more than any previous leader to normalise trade and diplomatic relations with India. His mending fences approach lacks the customary anti-India sting.
    Attitude towards militancy
    Militant groups such as Al Qaeda and the Taliban have limited appeal among Pakistanis. Relatively few Pakistanis express a positive view of either Al Qaeda (13 percent) or the Taliban (13 percent). Attitudes toward groups affiliated with the Taliban fare no better in the eyes of the Pakistani public. Tehrik-i-Taliban, an umbrella organization of Taliban-linked groups in Pakistan, and the Afghan Taliban are viewed positively by only 17 percent and 14 percent of Pakistanis, respectively. The secretive Haqqani network, which is also associated with the Taliban movement, is viewed favourably by only 5 percent of Pakistanis.
    The attitudes toward Lashkar-e-Taiba are somewhat more positive – 22 percent say they have a favourable opinion of this militant group. This is hardly surprising because the Lashkar mostly targets India.
    How Pakistanis see India
    When asked which is the greatest threat – India, the Taliban, or Al Qaeda – a clear majority named India. Roughly a quarter cited the Taliban and only 4 percent say Al-Qaeda. This is despite the fact that Al Qaeda blew up the Karachi naval base last year.
    Only 22 percent of Pakistanis have a favourable view of India, although this is actually a slight improvement from 14 percent last year. Supporters of the two major opposition parties – former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s Pakistan Muslim League (PML-N) and cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan’s Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
    (PTI) are much more likely to name India as the biggest danger (71 percent and 61 percent, respectively) than those that affiliate with Zardari’s governing Pakistan Peoples’ Party (PPP), where this view of India is held by
    46 percent.
    Pakistanis in Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa regions are more likely to dislike India. For example, 84 percent in Punjab and 90 percent in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa see India as a serious threat, while 64 percent in Sindh and 61 percent in Baluchistan say the same.
    This should alert liberal Indians who rush to the border to hold “candlelight vigils” for peace. Most Pakistanis are united by their hatred and fear of India – it is only a matter of degree; some hate more, others less.
    Biting the hand that feeds
    India does not get any aid from the United States and yet among all 21 nations Pew surveyed, Indians seemed most favourably disposed towards it. Only 12 percent said they had an unfavourable opinion of the United States.
    On the other hand in Pakistan, which is heavily dependent on American cash and weapons, 80 percent had a negative opinion of America, with 74 percent regarding it as an enemy country. Around four-in-ten (38 percent) said US economic aid is having a mostly negative impact on Pakistan, while just 12 percent believed it is mostly positive.
    Curiously, 40 percent said American military aid is having a mostly negative effect, while only 8 percent said it is largely positive. Pakistan’s military stockpile is largely American supplied. Do the Pakistanis believe their North Korean knockoffs will do a better job?
    Be Pakistani, act Indian
    One of the ironies of Pakistani life in the West is that they pose as Indians, the very people they hate so much. According to Asghar Choudhri, the chairman of Brooklyn’s Pakistani American Merchant Association, a lot of Pakistanis can’t get jobs after 9/11, and after the botched Times Square bombing, it’s become worse. “They are now pretending they are Indian so they can get a job,” he told a US wire service.
    That is because Indians are among the highest educated and best paid ethnic groups, besides being highly integrated immigrants. Pakistanis, on the other hand, have been accused of honour killings, cousin marriages, child sex rackets, and terrorist activities in the very lands that gave them shelter.
    From Ramzi Yousef, who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993 (eight years before Osama Bin Laden) and is now serving a 240-year prison sentence to Mir Aimal Kansi, who shot dead two CIA agents and was later executed by lethal injection, to Faisal Shahzad, the Times Square “Idiot Bomber”, there is a long list of Pakistanis who have left a trail of terror.
    Terror on course
    The Indian mask that many Pakistanis wear is to get around Western suspicions. Back home, it’s business as usual. Two incidents amply demonstrate that Pakistanis have learnt nothing about the dangers of flirting with terror. One was the widespread outrage across the country over Bin Laden’s killing by American commandos. The other was the unholy fracas over Kansi’s execution.
    The day after a Virginia, United States, court handed the CIA shooter the death sentence, four Americans were shot dead on the streets of Pakistan. After his execution in 2002, Kansi’s funeral was attended by the entire civilian administration in his hometown Quetta, the local Pakistani Corps Commander, and the then Pakistani ambassador to the United States.
    Thousands of mourners turned out as Quetta city shuttered down. Kansi’s coffin, draped in black cloth with verses from the Koran embroidered on it in gold, was carried on the shoulders of young men some 10 miles from the airport to his family’s home in Quetta.
    In Islamabad, the capital city, lawyers and university students poured out on the streets in support of their newest ‘martyr’.
    Veteran’s view
    Veteran Indian writer Khushwant Singh is hardly the sort of person you would call anti-Pakistani. In fact, he’s been accused of “trenchant secularism” because he often backs the Muslim view against the Hindu-Sikh narrative. For decades, Singh’s house has been a watering hole for many of his Pakistani friends, who come to vent their frustrations. His mostly tabloid rants aren’t taken too seriously but he has a finger on the Pakistani pulse.
    In November 2008, 10 Pakistani terrorists raided the Indian city of Mumbai, killing 166 people – mostly innocent civilians. How did the common Pakistani react when confronted with the fact that it was an operation planned and executed by their countrymen?
    On the first anniversary of the attack here’s what Singh wrote in his column in the daily newspaper Hindustan Times: “To begin with, there was blank denial of any Pakistani being involved in the crime. This was tinged with apprehension that India may retaliate by carrying out similar operations in Pakistan and trigger off yet another mutually destructive war. When that fear proved baseless, it was replaced by a sense of achievement, a feeling of pride that their countrymen could plan and execute such a daring exploit with such finesse.Even the fact that among the innocent victims over 40 were Muslims was brushed aside. The sense of false pride in performing a foul deed still persists.”
    This is a snapshot of Pakistani society where the arrow of time is travelling backwards, taking it into a spiral of medieval madness. Where the death of a terrorist merely means he will be instantly replaced by a hundred clones.
    Is it any wonder that **** is a four-letter word?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have read it it in bits and pieces. This one is a gem.

    “Every country has an army but the Pakistan Army has a country”

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Imagine it has a general like Ravi and a major Gen like Engrich. All working under, smiling cobra Zia

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, what is the link to this article?

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    A comparison which none can deny … but some would like to turn away from

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And the PM under whom the rating of country has gone down is an economist who has been credited with liberalisation
    and revival of the economy of our country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    THAT BITSELF IS PROOF THAT THE CREDIT FOR LIBERALISATION HAS BEEN FALSELY THRUST UPON MMS.

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  • Anonymous

    http://costofwar.com/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Some figures are too big to make any sense!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Cannot claim the authenticity of the figures or the website. On a lazy Friday – a holiday here- nothing much to do and while going through different websites I came across this one which I found interesting.

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  • Anonymous

    George Devasahayam’s analysis on Assam, disintegration, government policies promoting separation etc. As you know, Devasahayam was a bureaucrat (IAS) and an army man.

    Must read

    http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.com/2012/08/how-left-liberal-secular-media-sees.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahadevan,

    A very disturbing article and a great cartoon at the end of the article.
    The cartoon itself tells us the whole story. I doubt that any serious action be taken.

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  • Dr Mishra

    mahadevan’s link is diturbing- hope the investigation is fair and speedy- http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/nation/south/bengaluru-police-bust-terror-%E2%80%98sleeper-cell%E2%80%99-11-held-505

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The situation seems to be grave as now educated people have started taking path of terrorism. If not stopped I shudder to think of the future.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It goes to show that in Bangalore, even terrorists are highly educated.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Wasnt the “Glasgow bomber” an aeronautical engineer from Bangalore? A son of a doctor couple there?

  • pankaj#1

    Mishraji;
    I have yet to discover a country, who sell itself for the benefit of so few. These so few, enact all the drama of democracy, secularism, blah, blah and blah. and sell themselves as cheap, yes, cheap prostitutes, not even classy.
    Saw a photograph of Sonia, extending her arm, asking Congress MPs to counter attack, BJP. Reminded me, of word” Chhoo”. Nothing more came out of this gesture. Still heard.. Rahul should join ministry. Mystery is that these Gandhis, who live on the Royalty of nehrus books, are declared one of the richest persons on earth???? Chori/ dacoity and seenajori????

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  • Anonymous

    A guy dials his home phone from work. A strange woman answers. 
    The guy says, “Who is this?” 
    “This is the maid.”, answered the woman. 
    “We don’t have a maid!” 
    “I was just hired this morning by the lady of the house.” 
    “Well, this is her husband. Is she there?” 
    “Ummm …. she’s upstairs in the bedroom with someone who I just figured was her husband.” 
    The guy is fuming. He says to the maid, “Listen, would you like to make 1 Lakh rupees
    “What do I have to do?” 
    “I want you to get my gun from my desk in the attic and shoot that ***** and the jerk she is with.” 
    The maid puts down the phone. The guy hears footsteps, followed by two gunshots. 
    The maid comes back to the phone. “What should I do with the bodies?” 
    “Throw them in the swimming pool!” 

    “What?! There’s no pool here?” 

    Long pause… “Uh …. is this 5355165?

    Good morning friends

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good joke.
    There may not have been a swimming pool, but the maid tried to skim the moolah from the “owner” of the house.

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  • Anonymous

    Scam’s looming, coal ministry had warned UPA-1

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Scams-looming-coal-ministry-had-warned-UPA-1/articleshow/16090550.cms

    NEW DELHI: The coal ministry had warned the UPA-1 government of the impending coalgate right at the outset of its tenure, pointing to the intense clamour for coal blocks and strongly emphasizing that their allocation would mean “windfall gains to the person who is allotted these captive mines”.
    ———-

    The document is also significant in that it rebuts government’s arguments that auctioning coal blocks would have meant higher power tariff. Based on a detailed analysis, the note concluded that inviting competitive bids would be the best option, while they would not affect the price of power and other end products.

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  • Anonymous

    GOM draft report recommends cancelling of coal licenses of several companies for non – performance.

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  • Anonymous

    Behind the Curtains.

    For anyone trying to understand Ramdev, what he has done off-screen
    speaks volumes.

    http://www.caravanmagazine.in/Story.aspx?StoryId=1546

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan-

    Mehta’s case is sour grapes.

    Conducting the 13th day ceremony of Congress is obviously mentioned as s a joke, and even if Ramdev meant it, it is far different from wishing a person to be dead. A large segment of the population will like Congress to be dead.

    Regarding the question of how he will rule, whether he will ban tooth paste etc – will be any body’s guess, and it depends on his party’s strength in the parliament.

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  • Anonymous

    A thought provoking article on the Assam issue by the man who knows it well =- General Sinha, ex governor of Assam.

    Owaisi is planning the same thing for Hyderabad by bringing in Mayanmar Muslims!

    “Demographic Aggression” – Gen Sinha.

    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/columnists/sk-sinha/demographic-aggression

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  • Ramesh Kumar

    “IT IS ABOUT TIME UPA SHOULD START WORRYING——-NOT ABOUT THEIR SURVIVAL BUT INDIAS.” THIS IS YOUR OPENING REMARK.THE PROOF ENOUGH UPA IS NOT WORRYING ABOUT INDIA BUT THEMSELVES.
    HINDUSTAN TIMES ON SUNDAY DTD 9.9.2012 TELLS THE NATION THAT PM MMSINGH IS WORTH 10.5 CRORE TODAY AND LAST YR IT WAS 5 CRORE I.E. DOUBLE IN ONE YR.THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE HOWMUCH HIS WIFE HAS ACCUMULATED AND HIS DAUGHTERS AND SONS INLAWS.
    KINDLY PUBLISH THESE DETAILS.
    NOW I DONOT HAVE TO SAY ,WHAT WORRIES THIS SO CALLED HONEST PM.
    WILL HE TELL THE HONEST WAY TO MAKE 5CR INTO 10 CRORE IN A YR WITHOU BUSINESS.

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  • Children party supplies Johannesburg

    Children party supplies Johannesburg…

    Time to place country above party : Separated At Birth…

  • Anonymous

    Sujata,

    I don’t know ‘who is Caesar’s wife here?’ but you are definitely a congress pimp.

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  • chn

    You could as well wrote just the only paragraph about Modi and earn the daily booty. Except that few lines nothing seems to be coherent in this article

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  • Javed

    since your article is lot about your friends farty opinions that pay cheque from 10 Janpath, you must have to give them a fair share out of it, no?

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  • KAUL

    WHAT POINT YOU ARE MAKING?ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO ANALYSE THE HUNG PARLIAMENT IN 2013/14. YOU SHOULD USE YOU INTELECT AND KNOWLEDGE THROUGH YOUR OBVIOUS FRIEND FOR CHANGE IN ELECTRORAL PROCESS THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED SINCE INDIRAGANDHI DAYS AND NEVER DEBATED IN PARLIAMENT FOR PASSING A BIIL AND THEN A LAW.

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  • AD

    you are assuming that while MMS presided on the loot, SG had no idea what her congress minister were doing….how lopsided the views can be…all it means that there is concentrated effort to make a scapegoat out of MMS and you are intentionally or unintentionally going by the strategy

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  • rmr calculator

    rmr calculator…

    Time to place country above party : Separated At Birth…

  • Ayush Mudgil

    Churchill had once said “Liberty is men’s birthright. However, to give the reins of government to the Congress at this juncture is to hand over the destiny of hungry millions into the hands of rascals, rogues and freebooters. Not a bottle of water or a loaf of bread shall escape taxation; only the air will be free, and the blood of these hungry millions will be on the head of Mr. Attlee (Attlee was Britain’s Prime Minister from 1945 to 1951) . India will be lost in political squabbles.”

    No, I opine Churchill was wrong!! India had worked very hard in the post-independence years to produce kleptomaniac politicians in every political party. Politics in India is the synonym for corruption, more so in the name of Coalition Politics. Coalition may have been successful in countries in Scandinavia et alwhere people have morale and character. It has utterly failed in India. It has rather promoted high level corruption in the yester years. Honest are those who are fools and vote them to power and hand them license to loot the country for five years and beyond.

    We will keep watching articles and comments in the media but nothing seems possible to stop the rot, at least in the near future. God save us….. save India. We are completely worn out!!

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  • Praveen Saxena

    The seriousness of the GOI is evident from the fact that even after 5 days of the attack , the Union Home Minister who has an ” Internal Secuity Division” and a specialized “Naxal Management Division ” in his Ministry is yet to come back from his holiday in USA. The officers manning these specialized departments shall have to wait for some more time with their proposals and suggestions.

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  • Anonymous

    I do not know that which one of the party does not Got a Majority after the Loksabha election .Without Alliance there can not be made a Government .

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130601024238AA0BzqU

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  • Kaedesmith

    I think that Third Front may be raise in the Loksabha election.Neither Congress nor BJP may be Majority .

    http://www.prlog.org/12124804-rei-coupon-code-save-up-to-50-use-enjoy-shopping.html

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  • lenjerie intima

    lenjerie intima…

    Time to place country above party : Separated At Birth…

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYRtmMxB5yw CrossWinds

    1 Corinthians 9:25…….

    25 All athletes are disciplined in their training. They do it to win a prize that will fade away, but we do it for an eternal prize.

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  • Siba Mohanty

    This is no less than adventure, daredevilry…

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