Pranab will be assertive, not adversarial



Dr A P J Abdul Kalam isn’t a politician. He’s a scientist who once headed India’s missile development programme that’s essentially about keeping a projectile on course to hit a target.

It was perhaps for this reason that he relied on his scientific temper to turn down Mamata Banerjee’s and the BJP’s last ditch bid to set him up as a presidential candidate. He knew the numbers were against him. That he stood no chance of winning against Pranab Mukherjee.

The learned scientist decided therefore against being a dud missile in the hands of the saffron party. And whatever little chances there were of he agreeing to the token contest were extinguished by RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat’s call for an Opposition consensus over his name.

The ham-handed BJP move — and I write this without prejudice or bias — disregarded Kalam’s 2002 presidential foray that had, besides the NDA, the TDP and the SP, the support of the Congress party. To push the former President into a fight he was likely to lose was crass opportunism. Kalam wasn’t obviously game. Not especially when he was sought to be used as a pawn on the political chess-board.

It’s always unfair to compare individuals. But at times it’s inescapable! I’ve no doubt that Kalam doesn’t require to be President again to be important. The same is largely true of Pranab Mukherjee. No other nominee in recent years has transported to the presidency the wealth of experience and first hand knowledge of the system the Finance Minister will take to the high office.

I’m certain that Mukherjee’s wouldn’t be a rubber-stamp presidency. At the same time — a stickler for form that he is — he’d do nothing to be in conflict with an elected regime, now or after 2014, when a change of government might well happen.

The best suited man for an overlapping presidency. That’s what Mukherjee happens to be. I doubt whether the assertion will be questioned even by BJP big-wigs. They all know how helpful the Congress’s presidential aspirant was as chairman of the parliamentary standing committee on home affairs during the NDA rule.

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  • Ravi

    Mr Mukherjee will make an excellant President.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi-

    What is your basis when you make a judgment that he will be an “excellent” president?
    Of course, as FM, he presided over a decline in the economy.

    He has held several ministries, but will that in itself make him an ‘excellent” Prez?

    He will definitely be better than the current old stooge; but will be interested in hearing how you assessed his excellence – was it performance of the myriads of ministries he headed?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Shoeb

    Let me invert your question.
    Tell me why do you think that he will not make an EXCELLENT President.

    What – in your opinion are the qualities that would make a man an excellant president and which of those qualities can not be found in Mr Mukherjee.

    For me he is knowledgeable, erudite, intelligent, suave, he has been through the political mill, he is very distinguished and above all he has an excellant “Made in Texas” BS deflector.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    what this fake Ravi meant is Pranab will make an excellent president whan compared to Zardari!

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    NitinGupta Reply:

    My assessment is that he will not be a tentative president. His knowledge about the constitution is excellent. So he may just shoot from the hip. Any Govt should be wary of him and be alert.

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  • Anonymous

    Let us hope Mukherjee will discard Mataji and Betaji after 2014 elections if they try to patch up a coalition with 2MP and 5 MP parties.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi-

    Well, that is a “big” hope – There may be a possibility, it is often rumoured that Pranab is not loyal to the family.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pranab has been good that way. Though they were always rumours about his son… Pranab has only got him into politics once he himself is retiring…

    Not as bad as most Cognressis.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ SHoeb

    He id put up his hand for PM’s post after Indira’s murder, while coming back from Calcutta.

    For this he had to be kicked out of COngress and he floated his Samajwadi Congress till Rajiv Gandhi needed him back after falling out with VP SIngh and Arun Nehru.

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    NitinGupta Reply:

    Better than NDA trying to patch up a coalition with “1 MP” Swamy Party.

    Your memory is really spurious or it’s a deliberate fudgy the whale smart act ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Slight correction.

    It is not even one 1MP party. It is only one-man army – Janata Party. Jayalalita and Advani have yet to reward the Doctor with Rajya Sabha seat for the ’services’ he is supposed to be rendering.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Why bring in Swamy in this discussion – he is not on anybody’s nomination for Prez

    NitinGupta Reply:

    it was a comment on your pompous statement…”if they try to patch up a coalition with 2MP and 5 MP parties…”

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pranab should not invite NDA either to form the government if it is a patchwork of 1 MP/2MP parties.

    NitinGupta Reply:

    Good. You had left out that important 50% of your intended sentence in your first attempt.

  • Anonymous

    Just returned from a three week trip to USA. US newspapers widely covered the Indian presidential consensus (or lack of it), the deceleration of economy, the increase in inflation etc. India’s declining growth was covered on most of the national TV channels too.

    Also watched several “news maker” interviews where prominent members of US Congress wanted US to have close partnership with India.

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  • Anonymous

    Vinod Sharma

    Pranab will be a good President, possible not as good as Abdul Kalam who is revered by all.

    The Congress has to atone for its sins of getting such rotten eggs like Pratibah Patil and Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed. For this reason alone it should have got in Kalam.

    Pranab was rather pedestrian as Finanace Minister in 1981 and 1982. His nonperformance was nothing to write about , even now. He is there, is visible and is generally polite and affable.

    Not a genius… but definately better than duffers like Patil SOnia probably needs him to guide Rahul’s elevation to the chair.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Pranb was hardly inspiring as finance Minister.

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    ag Reply:

    Pranab was an exceptionally inept finance minister. India’s credit rating has been downgraded, and it is doing the worst among the BRIC nations. INR is in the dumps – the worst (or maybe second worst) performing Asian currency. I will hardly call his performance pedestrian – his performance was quite disastrous.

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    Kaypee Endee Reply:

    You are right. But it is not this purpose that Sonia wants him to be the President. She wants Pranab to be at arm’s length from Rahul. Pranab has been a mediocre FM all through, but is a grand politician who aspired to be a PM even when Sonia was a housewife.
    And yes, he will be a better President than Pratibha tayi though will never reach the levels of Kalam; you need a great level of personal integrity to be like that.

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  • Anonymous

    In 1982, the Institute of CA’s organised a lecture on Pranab’s budget analysed by nani Palkhivalla, in which Palkhivalla tore into what Pranab’s half hearted proposals.

    The RBI governer then was Manmohan Singh.

    Pranabda could never swallow that his junior was his boss now.

    And I think with his pedestrian budgets and the retrospecitve tax propsals have been his revenge on MMS and Indian economy

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pity that MMS could not counter them!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If his innings in the finance ministry was pedestrian, his presidency will be limping along.

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  • Anonymous

    Why is BJP now pushing Sangma? Unless they see some benefits in 2014 from NE states, it does not make any sense to put him against Pranab.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Well it wont be a bad idea to back Sangma, even though it is lost cause. The NDA gave a walkover to Dimple Yadav and Vijay Bahuguna. Not the way to handle the COngress

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Then they should get somebody else of equal caliber to Kalam. Sangma is another dynasty guy – with his young daughter in the UPA cabinet, with his son in Meghalaya opposition leladerhip…

    I hate to say this, BJP is consistent in behaving stupidly

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Yes they could have chosen a better guy. But the Sangma dyasty is small as compared to the main dyansty.
    Good paprt is that Digviansh Singh and Rahul G have to hide their faces in shame.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju
    Looks like Digryodhan Singh is in the dog house. The party said he does not speak for congress!

  • Anonymous

    which is why most of the time he used to spend in his office.

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  • Ravi

    Bipin Ji – तुसी महान हो

    You have inspired me to adapt the following from a great lyric. I hope you do not mind my response in this way. It is not my intention to fire my gun while resting it on your shoulders, but it is to scumb to an urge inside me, whilst keeping my promise to myself.

    After reading your above post शिन शिनाकी बबला बू is heard singing.

    गर्जत बरसत धप्ड खायो रे,
    लायो रे संग में, हमरे शरमवा
    विजय का करूँ हाय, गर्जत बरसत धप्ड खायो रे

    रिमझिम-रिमझिम तेवर बरसे
    अभी तो विनय की छाप मिटत नाहीं
    एक और लगत है तिलक समान ….तिलक समान
    गर्जत बरसत धप्ड खायो रे

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  • vijay !

    Beautifull Ravi, naya roop, sarpanaka ko mubarak

    Welcome back from Tora Bora, Ravi

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  • Anonymous

    vijay-
    What else? He is sent to spread the hate message. His buddy RamAvtar has gone for intensive training.

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  • Anonymous

    folks had a wonderful time in Milano. If you want me to talk about the trip then i am happy to that , but not until i am asked to. else it looks self flagellation.
    As for Pranab , HE SINGLE HANDEDLY SNOOTHED THE PATH FOR THE RISE OF AMBANIS, IN TURN AMBANIS FILLED THE COFFERS OF CONGRESS PARTY.watch GURU again.
    Before criticising Pranab on his current tenure BE CAREFUL , you are criticising Prof Kaushik Basu ,Prof in Economics at COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY.
    His HANDS WERE TIED BY THE CPM IN SARI, unlike MMS who had a free rein

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hi Shan,
    Please share your experience in Milano.
    By the way, did you use Ryan Air to fly out – I could see someone resembling you at Stansted airport? :-) :-)

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  • ag

    Pranab assertive? The author of this article is gullible to the extreme. Congress has denigrated the post of the Presidency. It is now the home of the incompetent and the servile.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Make Modi the President…NOW….rescue India’s (sorry Hindu’s) reputation forthwith.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi-

    You are stooping too low!

    What is your problem? He stated that Congress has denigrated the presidency – which is true, if you look at the past appointees by congress including the present one who occupies the office.

    Why do you bring Modi, Hindu prestige etc in this? Ag statement was Congress denigrated the presidency, and Pranab is not assertive. Argue against those and not some wild imagination of yours!

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    Ravi Reply:

    Without any substantiation such an arguement is stooping beyond depths.

    Any one with a keyboard can make any glib statement they like, but it takes a proper man to support their arguements with substance.

    All I did was add that substance I believe he had in his mind.

  • Anonymous

    An interesting article in NY times about the rise of the ‘different”. How India, china etc growth is different from the post WorldWarII countries, and the danger to USA

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/19/opinion/rise-of-the-different.html?smid=p

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  • Nav

    Rajya Sabha seat is not too far for you From congress. You have defended Congress well on all TV channel.

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  • concerned indian

    r u kidding me? he is the most incompetent and useless FM in recent memory…he should be canned not given the honor of being India’s first person

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  • Niladrinath Mohanty

    Vinod Sharma writes ‘ I write without prejudice or bias’. Really! He is a diehard Congressman and known BJP baiter. See his using the word saffron.

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  • avtar chauhan

    Nothing much is expected of you since you are a branded congressman,writing for congress,a paid character. Not worth reading your biased views .

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  • Atish

    There is a misconception about Kalam. By any stretch of imagination, he
    was not a scientist. He was manager of engineers for a missile programme.
    No doubt he was successful. Scientists do scientific research, and publish
    their findings in repute scientific journals and give lectures on their findings.
    Kalam was far from being a scientist. No scientific forum ever invited him to
    deliver lectures on his ‘’scientific research” or nobody is aware of any
    significant “publications” by Kalam. Somehow, the politians and the media
    started projecting him as a scientist, and everybody assumed that was true
    and went along. It is sad that we don’t have a culture of questioning people’s
    credentials. We just like go along with propaganda.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    It is good to know you raised this subject. Kalam was a manager… okay I wont dispute that, but he had a scientific background academaically , was employed in a scientific field. and inspired people especially the young to follow the scientific road. So is he not a scientist, even when the GOI employment batch always said so.

    He was the Chief Scientific Adviser to the Prime Minister and the Secretary of Defence Research and Development Organisation from July 1992 to December 1999.

    In contrast Atish, can you tell me how many people — Sanjay, Rajiv, Indira, SOnia– went to college and completed it?

    In fact I am sure you think they are the scientists.
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    Here is Dr kalam for you:
    fter graduating from Madras Institute of Technology (MIT – Chennai) in 1960, Kalam joined Aeronautical Development Establishment of Defense Research and Development Organization as a chief scientist. There, Kalam started his career by designing a small helicopter for the Indian Army, but remained unconvinced with the choice of his job.[6] Kalam was also part of the INCOSPAR committee working under Vikram Sarabhai.[4] In 1969, Kalam was transferred to the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) where he was the project director of India’s first indigenous Satellite Launch Vehicle (SLV-III) which successfully deployed theRohini satellite in near earth orbit in July 1980. Joining ISRO was one of Kalam’s biggest achievements in life and he is said to have found himself when he started to work on the SLV project. Kalam first started work on an expandable rocket project independently at DRDO in 1965.[8] In 1969, Kalam received the government’s approval and expanded the program to include more engineers.[7]

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  • Anonymous

    Good morning friends.Back from China early thus morning.

    Pranab Mukherji after being nominated for president said ‘ Mera khada hona
    bahut mushkil tha, yeh to Sonia ke haath ka kamaal hai’.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    We;come back Mohan!! The first bowl has been a beamer!!
    Will smile all the way to my sites now…!!
    And by the way Google has reported that Baby G and Digiviansh SIngh and Kapil siBBal have incresed censroship in India by 50%!!
    At least some growth becasue fo CONGRESSIS…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    I noticed censorship on this blog too. Out of about 40 comments
    3-4 have been deleted, don’t know who were the victims of this
    censorship.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    O well !! I have been one of them ! Not that it makes much difference to me…
    This bloody heat must have made the censor lose the sense of humour !

    manohar_T Reply:

    Swagatam.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    WB

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar/Vijay

    Shukran.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    20 second continuous laugh has been your gift for me, this morning.

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  • Rakesh Katyal

    He messed up the economy completely. He is good riddance to Rashtrapati Bhavan where he will not be able to do much harm.

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  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~ WHY PRANAB VACATING THE FM MAY BE GOOD FOR INDIA ~~~~~
    ==============================================================
    Let us all face the truth, once a while. That Pranab Mukherji is hardly the Aishwariya Rai of Finance. He does not create any excitement… but has ended up doing more of the 80’s socialist thing.

    Gopi and Vinoo went back to 1980’s to dig out Prnab’s inspid finace ideas. I will talk about now.

    If I go to a resturaunt in India or in a hotel– my taxes add up almost more than the bill. Every thing is taxed. Our hotel rooms in big cities are now more expensive than US and China. While working so many more taxes have been added that it is now a byzantine problem.

    Pranab could only think of taxing more…. rather than creating conditions for more investment.

    He even unleashed the retrospective tax, which led to all of India’s present problems.

    He was clearly biased in doling favours to UPA states and using people’s money to bolster the COngress chances. Put the taxed money into a Nehru family named scheme and proclaim that BabyG and Mummy G have done charity.

    Then stop funding of central projects in NDA states… especially Gujarat.
    yes a boring boring COngress FM who deserves a goodbye.

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  • vijay !

    Even NDTV feels that Pranab will be used to tweak teh 2014 elections to get Baby G on the hot seat!!
    Very surprising that NDTV has ;eaked the truht all of us here knew!
    ================================
    New Delhi: By all accounts, Congress Party leader Sonia Gandhi does not trust the man she nominated on Friday to become the next president of India, Pranab Mukherjee. But with her party facing tough elections due by 2014 he may be her ace in the hole. (Your choice for President? Vote here)

    Until now, India’s president has been viewed as a ceremonial head of state. But with the next elections widely expected to produce a fragmented parliament with no clear winner, Mr Mukherjee, a loyal Congress man, will play a key role in deciding which party takes the lead in forming a new government.

    Perhaps more importantly, Mr Mukherjee, 76, now finance minister, could help the Gandhi family keep its grip on power. Mrs Gandhi’s son, Rahul, is a leading contender to become prime minister in any new Congress-led coalition. As president, Mr Mukherjee would have a say in who gets that job.

    Mr Mukherjee was nominated by the Congress party in the face of opposition from a key ally within the ruling coalition. The party, however, won support from other coalition partners for its choice and appeared confident that Mr Mukherjee would win the electoral college vote on July 19.

    Analysts say Mr Mukherjee could play an influential role in steering the country through potentially one of the most politically turbulent periods in modern Indian history.

    With neither of the two main parties — Congress and the Bharatiya Janata Party — expected to win convincing majorities in 2014, a fragile coalition that includes several regional parties could emerge to claim power.

    In that scenario, Mr Mukherjee, famed for his political acumen, could as president exercise more authority, taking advantage of a vaguely worded constitution.

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  • Anonymous

    What is the difference between men’s cricket and women’s cricket?

    In men’s cricket there is short leg between two long legs and in women’s cricket
    there is deep gully in between two fine legs.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How many pads women use while playing cricket, Two , one commensurate , other mensurate

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    Anonymous Reply:

    superb.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “other mensurate”
    men only salivate.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Good one.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Maan gaye bandhu!
    I think you should becaome a expert commnetator along with Sidhu!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If balls are hit between the two fine legs, who will catch them?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Cannot handel this googly.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Teesra…

  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    A must read – a very detailed analysis

    Politics after President Pranab

    Siddharth Varadarajan

    The ease with which the Congress finally had its way on the presidency does not take away from the tough times that lie ahead

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article3543968.ece?homepage=true

    Excerpts

    In getting Mulayam Singh to back Pranab Mukherjee for the post of
    President, Sonia Gandhi may have managed to undo the unconvincing but
    significant partnership that Mamata Banerjee stitched together with the
    Samajwadi Party. Yet the tactical victory the Congress has snatched will
    do little to alter the political trendline that is — as things stand
    today — taking the party inexorably towards defeat in 2014.

    ==

    But the Trinamool Congress leader — and others who aspire to rule this
    country — might well have the last laugh if the UPA reverts to
    business-as-usual: the underlying dynamics at play in national politics
    remain fundamentally unchanged and the outlook does not favour the
    Congress. Not by a long shot.

    ==

    Second, there will be no early elections. Neither the Samajwadi Party,
    which will likely support the UPA on all major issues, nor the Trinamool
    — which will continue to blow hot and cold and perhaps even quit the
    UPA — can or will precipitate the collapse of this government. In any
    case, the Trinamool by itself can do nothing. As for the SP, the
    priority is to consolidate the Akhilesh Yadav government in Uttar
    Pradesh, which requires a workmanlike, if not close, relationship with
    the Centre.

    ==

    Seventh, the BJP will continue to face a crisis of national leadership
    with top brass remaining at daggers drawn. If the party gets re-elected
    in Madhya Pradesh and Chhattisgarh and wrests Rajasthan from the
    Congress, this will open the door for it to select one of its successful
    Chief Ministers as a possible Prime Ministerial candidate for the 2014
    general election.

    Eighth, Narendra Modi will not be one of those leaders. Whatever his
    administrative acumen may be, the taint of the 2002 pogrom will not be
    erased and the Gujarat Chief Minister will remain unacceptable outside
    his State both to the electorate at large and to parties like the Janata
    Dal (United), which will be a key constituent of any National
    Democratic Alliance government. Among its other State-level leaders,
    therefore, the BJP could seek to project at the national level Shivraj
    Chauhan or Vasundhara Raje.

    ==

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    2014 is still far away and it is very difficult to predict the winner. Before the election regional parties will try to form a 3rd, 4th and 5th front but
    most probably they will fail to reach any consensus. Mamta and Mayawati
    will perhaps not have any pre-poll alliance with anyone and will only
    decide after the elections. Regarding Modi I think that author is out of
    touch with the reality. He is very famous out of Gujarat and get many seats for his party if he decides to campaign all over country. Nitish
    Kumar may create some trouble for BJP and looking at the past experience, I don’t expect BJP to handle him in a sensible way. They
    are bound to make blunders.
    Rahul Gandhi leading the Congress campaign, perhaps yes, but I do not
    think he will be nominated as the PM candidate before the elections. Only
    if they get decent numbers of seats then he will be the front runner.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan/Manohar

    There is a controversy about Varadarajan – that he is a US citizen. While that in itself is not a disqualification to pass an opinion, Mohan, your comment “out of touch with reality” may be apt. My understanding is that he does not have much of a “feet on the ground” experience in India.

    He wrote a very biased review/book on Gujrat 2002 riot; so he cannot change from that view.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    He may hold any citizenship. He is lives very much here in India and is the Editor of The Hindu.

    I know, according to you, anyone writing against Modi automatically qualifies him as a biased writer and also being out of touch with the reality. etc. etc.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    Do not twist.

    I said whether he is a citizen or not does not matter for him to pass on opinions.

    I said he may fit in with Mohan’s “out of touch with reality” attribute because he does “not have foot on the ground” experience. he never covered a region or a state; his was all op eds and interviews. So, it is quite possible he does not have a feel for what people think.

    Third, he published a book on Modi after the 2002 riots. He was very biased against Modi; hence my assumption that it will be difficult for him to change from that belief and project Modi differently.

    manohar_T Reply:

    I am not twisting, If it was not an issue, then why raise it in the first place? I have been seeing him in TV discussions here for ages, so he has views on things.

    You may or may not agree with him on what he writes – in the latter case, you can counter argue. No, you choose to question his credentials and reasons therefore to say what he says is not reality.

    Is his complete analysis unreal or only that ‘part’ about Modi?

    manohar_T Reply:

    Mohan

    2014 is not far away. Also note that elections may be held sooner than later, may as early as this year. There is not much time.

    1) Even as of today, all parties, except one, know who will lead the campaign and will be the Prime Minister if that party has the chance to lead a coalition. Rahul Gandhi (though I doubt he will choose to be one), Nitish Kumar, Mulayam Singh, Naveen Patnaik, Jayalalitha, Mamta, Mayawati, etc.

    2) Now we come to this one ‘exceptional’ party. There are one too many aspirants, which is a good thing by itself and may the best man/woman win, but the time do it is ‘now’.

    Anyone who thinks that once a leader is selected (say when the elections are announced) and that everything will fall in place by 5-59 AM next day, is surely living in a fool’s paradise.

    Nitish Kumar has already started his efforts to eliminate Modi from the race. Surprisingly, today on TV channels, Sushil Kumar Modi – Dy. CM of Bihar, stated that the NDA and not the BJP will choose its Prime Ministerial candidate.

    Knowing the BJP, they seem content just to react to developments and events as they happen.

    3) The general view is that Modi’s fiefdom is within the borders of Gujarat. Outside, his vote catching skills are suspect.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I do not really have any difference with you on point
    1 and 2. Regarding point no. 3 where we both always differ,
    I think we can only wait an watch.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan/Manohar
    Nitin has made a statement that the NDA’s nominee for PM should be a ’secular” person…All my respect for Nitin is gone with this..he obviously is aiming at Modi; but it also hurts him, putting him along with all the other “me too”s , …He could have said the person should have this, this, this capabilities, and , also by the way should have secular views …

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Nitish Kumar probably sees himself as a future PM. I won’t be surprised when talks of third front gain momentum he may be the leader of that front. BJP had done extremely well in last
    Bihar elections, they should call his bluff by announcing fighting
    elections without aligning with Nitish Kumar.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right Mohan.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, Gopi, Pankaj ji,

    politics is all about human psychology and making moves which have maximum psychological impact.

    The BJP too, like Indira Gandhi in an earlier era, will show Nitish his place at the right moment.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Does Nitish have a national base or is he basically restricted to Bihar? What is his base in Bihar (in terms of assembly/parliamentary seats) if he contests on his own party?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nitish has zero base outside Bihar (except perhaps Jharkhand which was a part of Bihar). His party can’t even win an assembly seat outside of this state.
    In alliance with BJP, Nitish Kumar managed to kick Lalu Yadav out of Bihar which was unthinkable at one point in time. As much as he would like to deny, without an alliance with BJP, he would struggle to win as many assembly/parliamentray seats as he has presently got. In Bihar, the caste still matters and the party candidtaes are selected on this basis.
    No doubt, he has done wonders in Bihar in his last few years as CM, but he should not get carried away. He has managed to do all this with the support of BJP which is an equal partner in the state. We should remember that BJP had won 90 seats out of 102 that it contested in 2010.
    The BJP shouldn’t fear Nitish. He has got as much to lose as the BJP if the alliance were to break – in the name of secularism!!

    Ravi Reply:

    Ishwar
    So to be a PM Nitish has to widen his base.

    Modi has to jettison all the RSS baggage he seems to have collected.

    Which one do you believe will be easy.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    This RSS baggage, he will polarize the country, comparing
    him with Hitler and lot of propaganda against him by the
    biased media will have very limited effect on the voting
    public. Modi can only be stopped from becoming future
    PM of India by his own party members and which may happen. If BJP decides to back Modi whole heartedly
    than I don’t think barring unforeseen circumstances anyone
    will be able to stop him from become PM.

    Ravi Reply:

    I will add to his baggage

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    This RSS baggage, he will polarize the country, comparing
    him with Hitler and lot of propaganda against him by the
    biased media will have very limited effect on the voting
    public. Modi can only be stopped from becoming future
    PM of India by his own party members and which may happen. If BJP decides to back Modi whole heartedly
    than I don’t think barring unforeseen circumstances anyone
    will be able to stop him from become PM.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    You are right about Nitish Kumar that he should not get
    carried away but it seems that he has got carried away.
    Nothing wrong in aspiring to become PM but without the
    help from the national party he cannot reach that summit.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Gopi;
    In fact, Nitish also nurse a desire for Prime Ministership, hence the convenient weapon, which was being used by UPA, is now, without hesitation, being used by Nitish. No body is secular or communal in Indian politics. Most of them, dare to say, all of them, are simply opportunists.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Funnily, for Nitish Kumar, Narendra Modi in Gujarat is communal, Sushil Modi in Bihar is secular!

  • vijay !

    ————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ ART NEWS FROM THE HINDUSTAN TIMES ~~~~ ~!! ~~~
    ———————————————————————————————–

    Art forms are surely evolving and so is the HIndustan Times. Here is a a new art form which our favourite paper has highlighted with a video

    —————————-

    SHOCKER: Thai woman paints with boobs Agencies

    New Delhi, June 19, 2012First Published: 12:14 IST(19/6/2012)
    Last Updated: 13:34 IST(19/6/2012)share share on facebookshare on linkedinshare on googleshare on emailmore…1 Comment email printWoman paints with boobs on Thai version of Britain’s Got Talent.We have seen people using their hands and even legs to paint, but a Thai woman stunned everyone when she decided to use her breasts as brush on Thai version of Britain’s Got Talent.

    “The 23-year-old smeared herself in paint before gyrating against a canvas to dance to music. Judges appeared shocked while the hosts turned away,” reports The Sun.

    As expected, the two male judges gave thumbs up while the female judge turned her down. Anyway she got passed that round with two votes in her favour.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Till now I had only heard and seen women brushing their breasts against men in crowded buses and cinema halls.

    This Thai woman developed her own unique breast strokes, not in swimming but in painting.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    I will have to check for paint on the back of my T shirt… next time I travevl by Metro !

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  • Anonymous

    Mr Vinod Sharma while writing this post appears to be echoing the sentiments of 10 Janpath and does not appear to be too thrilled with Pranab Mukerjea’s selection as the UPA candidate.He has even mentioned how he may cooperated with the NDA in the past. His feelings are similar to that of Sonia Gandhi, who was outwitted by Pranab in getting himself nominated much to her discomfiture .
    The BJP and the NDA are not too unhappy with Pranab’s candidature. Election of Pranab is I think a foregone conclusion . But what they are attempting to do with an alternate candidate, is to start a political dialogue and cooeperation with parties like BJD , TMC, AIADMK . None of these parties have any problems with Narendra Modi. If it happens it will only strengthen BJP’s position and also that of the NDA.
    I think whereas the Congress party and the media too may be comlimenting Sonia Gandhi and outwardly they may be celeberating , but in fact they may actually be lamenting this development.
    The political developments are more about the formation of tyhe next government and less abpout the next President of India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sonia Gandhi’s and all the pseudos’ main worry is that Pranab may order the immediate execution of Afzal Guru.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Not likely.

    Kasab and Afzal guru will never be killed till a BJP government comes to power.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Saab , Vijay
    Mr Vinod Sharma is right to the extent that Pranab Mukerjea shall be assertive. The Constitution of India offers limited powers to the President , like the Right to be Informed and the Right to advise ,and even if these are properly exercised , the President can exercise a lot of moral influence. The present incumbent , a true gift of Sonia Gandhi , is of course a shame .

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Parveen

    Kalam rejected the foreign SOnia Gandhi, though the COngressi bandmasters blew her trumpet and flute.

    He shook up a recalcitrant Buta Singh acting as the Centre’s butcher.

    That is the power of a Kalam and a good president.

    Fakhruddin ali ahmed as his name suggests… fa_ __ _ _ the constitituion to sign the emrgency.

  • Vishwas Gokhale

    Many people do not realise this that Pronob Mukherjee is being kicked out of the cabinet because US considers Pronobda has ruined Indian economy during his tenure as a finance minister .The Ministry will be taken over by Dr Manmohan Singh. MM was not handling anything except being a dummy prime minister. US has realised its folly and want MM to take chrage of the finance ministry. ministry.
    Goodbye Pronobda have a nice sleep as president.

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  • Anonymous

    Parents adopt new methods to kill baby girls

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/Parents-adopt-new-methods-to-kill-baby-girls/articleshow/14219200.cms

    When a baby girl is born in any home, normally the first words spoken are
    Hamare ghar mein Laxmi aayi hai.

    Here tragically and without any remorse we are killing our Laxmis.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It really is bad!

    We have to target the areas, have combined educational, development programs aimed at these communities

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    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    Having lived in Dubai, you have gone native. You have become an India hating Muslim, who takes daily brief from ISI and you spend money thus earned on repairing your house in Muridke.

    Don’t deny it I have seen you supervise the work on your roof.

    Now that I know your real identity I am no longer sure if I will be able to honour my promise of sharing a Pint of Beer with you.

    You should think twice before running India down. Just stick to 8% growth stories. Stop listening to Chacha Haffeez.

    मदानियाँ हाए ओये मेरेआ दाडेया रब्बा
    तिआं जमन तो पहलां ही मर जनियाँ होए

    Have a look….and cry buckets – I did.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzieyDOjaqg

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    All regular bloggers here and I have never denied that there are many problems in India, yes thre are plenty but that does not means that we should stop acknowledging good positive things comming out of our country.
    By the way this 8% growth hs come down to 6% under the terrible rule of UPA headed by Mrs. Gandhi.

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    Ravi Reply:

    You had already gone native, now you are begining to go ga ga.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nice way of provoking but it won’t help, I am way beyond these things.

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan
    You may not remember but last time I brought up the subject of female foeticide, your best buddy from BangLahore had an autistic fit and he started to throw all his **** Fissure Price toys out of his pram.

    Anonymous Reply:

    All are my best buddies on this blog.

    Ravi Reply:

    Seriously, I hope you watch the video that I have linked above. I have that song on my Ipod and I listen to it quite regularly.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan/Ravi

    Looks like Ravi has adopted a new strategy – Stooping too low!

    Ravi Reply:

    Still way above where you are Mr Hegde.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Stooping too low…m to offer ….. to the person behind?

  • Anonymous

    Reforms coming soon- Dr Kausik Basu, Chief Economic Adviser to GOI

    http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/18/basu-says-crucial-reforms-coming-soon/

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    President’s foreign trips boosted trade ties: Industry

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Presidents-foreign-trips-boosted-trade-ties-Industry/articleshow/14246523.cms

    Excerpt

    Industry chambers — Assocham, CII and Ficci
    today presented a booklet titled ‘Engaging the World’ to Patil this
    morning. The booklet is a compendium on business delegations taken by
    the President during her State visits.

    The booklet said that
    during her visits, issues of concern to Indian industry were raised,
    MoUs were signed and trade and investment prospects of Indian industry
    were addressed.

    “The impact of these state visits has been
    multi-pronged. New vistas have been opened for Indian businesses … ,”
    Ficci Secretary General Rajiv Kumar said in a message in the booklet.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar
    ???

    if you believe those, then i ahve two bridges over river Saraswathi to selll

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    manohar_T Reply:

    1) I am ready to buy for Rs 5 each. Game?

    2) Allow me to rejig your knowledge a bit. The President does not travel abroad on his/her fancies. All the visits abroad are planned by the PMO and MEA and they decide the entourage (businessmen, journalists, ministers, etc). This is part of the diplomacy. This has been going on since 1950.

    Even India plays host to Presidents/ heads of States, who are not the heads of the Government. Do you have a problem with that too?

    You may accuse the present incumbent of taking along her relatives.

    3) Rs 200 crores was spent over a period of 5 years for the President’s visits. Do you know the total expenditure of GOI? It is Rs 15 lac crores per year. People cribbing about Rs 40 crores.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Manohar

    I think there is an element of spin and double talk out here. As an engineering student I worked with for some time in a summer job with CII.

    Funds were given by a certain Minister to publish the good he had done for India and CII readily took out a booklet. I can bet my bottom rupee that the funding of this booklet would be from the GOI, President’s house.

    Further on trade delegations lead by the commerce Minister do manage to wrench out concessions from other countries. The President of India– especially Praitbha Patil on sight seeing and vacation with children and grandchildren would have not done more thatn zero.

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  • vijay !

    What would life be without a game of tennis….

    C U guys as I rush to floodlit courts….

    Just lobbing the ball high my choice of Possible GOOD PM’s for 2014

    Take any order

    a) Jaswant Singh

    b) Nitish Kumar

    c) JayaLalita

    d) Modi

    e) Jaitley

    f) Chidambaram

    g) Manmohan SIngh (with Digiviansh and baby G in locker)

    h) Jairam ramesh
    ———————————————————

    The Possible bad ones

    a) Baby G

    b) Sonia G

    c) Mulayam SIngh

    d) Lalu

    e) Mayawati

    f) Robert G
    ===========================

    Quite possibly the the Next PM will be from this list !

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  • Anonymous

    I came across this and found it too funny to not to pass it on.

    The following speech was given by 6th grader Sophie Paterson at the Central

    Hawke’s Bay Primary Schools Rotary speech competition in New Zealand.

    Hi, today I am going to talk to you about farts.

    Some people
    think farts are rude and some people think farts are funny, like
    me.

    I think farts are hilarious.

    Farting is a fact of life.
    Everybody farts. The Queen farts, superstars ****
    and I ****. We will ****
    until the day we die.

    And apparently a person can still **** after
    death!!

    Do you know why we ****?

    Flatulence, wind or farts,
    whatever you like to call them, is the production
    of the mixture of gases in
    the digestive tract, that are by products of the
    digestive process.

    The average person farts about 14 times a day, which produces about half
    a
    litre of **** gas.(Personally, I think I **** more than 14 times a day).

    Farts are made up of the following: Nitrogen, the main ingredient making
    up
    59 percent; next behind is hydrogen at 21 percent; 9 percent carbon
    dioxide;
    7 percent methane, 3 percent oxygen and 1 percent other stuff.

    But listen to this – hydrogen sulphide is the compound that makes them

    stink!

    Here are the top 10 farter’s:

    1. Termites
    2.
    Camels
    3. Zebras and my pony Free
    4. Sheep
    5. Cows
    6. Elephants

    7. Labradors and retrievers
    8. Humans (vegetarians)
    9. Humans
    (non-vegetarians)
    10. Gerbils (also known as the
    desert rat)

    If
    If you are going to ****, do not sit by flames, because farts are very

    flammable.

    Also, they can come motoring out of your body at 10 kmh.

    No wonder some of you have holes in your undies!

    Please do not
    panic if you find yourself trapped in a small space like a
    closet, as it is
    impossible to suffocate in your own farts. Unless Ben (my
    little brother) is
    in there with you!

    Anyway next time you ****, don’t think it’s rude.
    Just know that
    everybottie, oops, I mean, everybody, farts.

    Thank
    you for listening to my fartastic speech.

    Here’s a little poem that I’d
    like to share with you.
    A trump is a violent explosion
    It comes from the
    Valley of Bum
    It rolls up and down your trouser leg
    And comes out with a
    violent hum!

    There was a young fellow called Steve
    Who farted
    whenever he pleased
    With buttocks a-thunder
    He forced gas asunder

    And blew all the leaves off the trees!

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  • Anonymous

    It was quite heartening to see the admiration and respect for
    Dr APJ Abdul Kalam coming from all regions of the country, from all groups.
    Adulation for a teacher, respect for a Guru came through that :

    “Gurur Brahmo Gurur Vishno Gurur Devo Maheshwara
    Guru Sakshat para Brahma Tasmi Sri Guruve nama:”

    The eternal India lives on – among sleeze, dirt..
    You feel good once a while – that all is not lost.

    (although a Muslim political party MMKK in TN accused Karunanidhi for Quran blasphemy because he said Kalam brings Kalagam – chaos. These guys were after him to apologize because he blasphemesized a Quran character kalam!)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    If these so called defenders/rakhwalas of Islam are not stopped than the day
    is not far that the word Quran uttered by a non Muslim will be considered as
    blasphemy.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Exactly, some purinaticals frown upon, non muslims uttering : Walecum Assalam: No Quraan is mentioned here but even then.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Four reasons why Kalam should be our next President

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/chennaitalkies/entry/four-reasons-why-kalam-should-be-our-next-president

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  • Anonymous

    Why Nationals Fail ?
    http://www.deeshaa.org/2012/06/15/why-nations-fail/

    A very long article, though the author has repeated himself few times but overall an interesting write up.

    A small excerpt.

    There are major differences in the cases of India and the US, though they
    were both British colonies at some time. The Americans won their freedom by
    defeating the British, and decided that they will not ever be subjects of a
    king. They gave themselves a new set of rules, and were not interested in
    reusing or recycling British rules. They wrote an absolutely brilliant
    constitution which gave the people power over their government. It is short
    enough for one to read over a lazy cup of coffee, and most Americans have read
    it in high school.
    The American constitution spelled out what the government could and could not
    do. The constitution severely limits the power of the government, and prudently
    distributes it across three institutions—the legislative, the executive, and the
    judiciary. The people are the masters and the government that they elect does
    what the people allow them to do. In India’s case, the government is the master
    and the people exist to serve it. The Indian constitution is a set of
    prescriptions and prohibitions limiting the freedom of the people.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Great! This is what i have been trying to say, but could never articulate well.
    As I have said many times before our constitution replaced one set of rulers with another set of Babus.

    The only way to get out of this mess is to rewrite the constitution, which may not be possible for a long time until a single party gets absolute majority in the centre and most of the states.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan-
    Mr De has captured it right.
    I just got back from US. I did get some exposure to their systems, campaigns etc.
    One of the most intriguing and interesting discussion/differentiation between candidates/parties is their safeguarding/protecting of constitution.

    Republicans accuse Obama of discarding constitution. They are trying to convince that they are the only ones who will ‘protect” constitutiion.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    Thanks for sharing this link.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Things you wanted to know about Rajnikant, but were afraid to ask.

    1) When Rajnikant was a Student,
    Teachers used to Bunk the classes!!!

    2) Rajnikant started a college.
    All student were confused while taking admission because name of the college was:

    “Rajnikant’s Medical College of Engineering for Arts & Commerce”!

    3) Rajnikant purchased a road roller… Guess why?
    To Iron his Clothes. mind it!

    4) Once a farmer replaces scare crow in the farm with Rajnikant’s statue…
    And the Birds returned the grains they took last year as well!

    5) If Rajni works in BPO, clients would work in shifts!

    6) Rajinikant got 150 questions in exam paper asking – “Solve any 100 questions” He solved all 150 and wrote, ” Rascalla!, CHECK ANY 100!”

    7) One day Rajani thought to play cricket in monsoon and rain stopped due to play!
    8) Tonight at 9 Rajani can be seen in the sky
    He is participating in the Asian Games’ high jump event!

    9) Rajnikanth’s next project is the Titanic in Tamil.
    However, Rajni has changed the climax, a wee bit…….
    Both the lead actors survive.
    Rajni swims across the Atlantic Ocean with the heroine in one hand and
    … the Titanic in the other

    10) Rajnikanth doesn’t breathe…air comes to hide in his lungs”

    11) “Who says the! world will be destroyed in Dec 2012
    Rajnikant just bought a Laptop with three years warranty”

    12) Rajni can walk faster than light….
    “Rajni cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another”.

    13) Once a photo of Rajnikant was given for Xerox.
    Don’t even try to guess what happened….
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    We got two copies of the Xerox machine!

    14) Once upon a time, Rajnikant used Tooth Powder to get strong teeth
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .

    Today that powder is known as“AMBUJA CEMENT”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, RajniKant is a popular guy across many continents, and not just among Tamilians. I am told there are fan clubs for him in Japan and Turkey.

    Not bad for a Marathi bus driver.

    And now his Kolavari son-in-law is hitting the airwave!

    Jokes apart, I believe he is a great human being; he is involved in many charities where he contributes tones of money as well as his time and effort.

    It indeed is remarkable that at this age (61 or so) he is still holding over to his fans. And he didnt make it into the industry based on his looks either!

    Wish him a long blessed life.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Agree. He is a bigger superstar than AB ever was. Probably, the biggest ever. He is Phantom, Superman, Spiderman, Batman and Jackie Chan all rolled into one.

    The reason for his goodness is that success has not gone to his head. He remembers his humble origins / background and knows arrogance takes a person nowhere.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Great collection of Rajnikant jokes.

    This is ultimate as this is real not a joke.

    Rajnikanth’s website runs without Internet

    http://tech2.in.com/news/web-services/rajnikanths-website-runs-without-internet/275092

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Nothing great or revolutionary about it. Not entirely true either – you have to visit the site. Once you do that the whole site gets downloaded and saved on one’s PC (unlike the standard – only pages one visits gets downloaded and not necessarily saved) and one can then surf the site offline. Even I can design and code a site like that.

    [Reply]

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks Manohar;
    Welcome back. You made me smile mighty broadly.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Keep Mamata’s photo at home, it’ll bring you luck: Trinamool leader

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/keep-mamatas-photo-at-home-it-will-bring-you-luck-trinamool-leader/1/201435.html

    Senior Trinamool Congress leader and West Bengal food and supplies minister Jyotipriyo Mallick, who is known for his bizarre political pronouncements, once again dragged himself into controversy by asking his party activists not to look at CPM supporters as it will bring bad luck to them.

    “You should never look at CPM activists as it will bring bad luck. If they are on left, turn right. If you are heading out for any work and see the face of any CPM worker you may end up getting crushed under the wheels,”

    ==

    Now, Mallick’s Talibanesque diktat has reached a crescendo as he has also urged his party members to carry a picture of Trinamool chief and West Bengal chief minister Mamata Banerjee at home for good luck.

    “Keep a picture of Mamata Banerjee at your home and look at it before going
    out. One must make sure to look at the picture before going out of home,” the Trinamool leader said.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I will also try this. I will keep photograph of Mamta Di at my home and in my purse, may be my luck in stock market will change.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Make sure it is a proper photo and not her ‘cartoon’ ;-)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    the congressi troll has suggested that you should be careful not to keep Mamta’s cartoon in your purse.

    It seems the experience is a good teacher and congressies have learnt that cartoons should not be equated with pictures, at least in text books. The cartoons have a habit of turning into raging fires which often burn the fingers of the congressies.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    So Who Wants To Do JEE-Huzoori?

    http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?281274

    Brand IIT versus GoI. It’s only the latest battle in this summer of seemingly endless discontent. Union minister for human resource development Kapil Sibal continues his on-off battle to snap away at the heels of the IIT-combine in his quest to rewrite the statute books. Sibal’s goal of a single engineering
    examination for the centres par excellence and all engineering colleges has caused consternation and heartburn. But, more importantly, it has led to plenty of confusion (and even fear) among the hundreds of thousands of students lining up to enter the portals of the country’s premier engineering institutes.

    ==

    Dr Pritam Singh, former director of IIM-Lucknow and a prominent
    management teacher, feels that globally, all leading institutions have followed a common thread without any impact on their own systems. Says he, Universities like Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Carnegie Mellon and Cornell have a common exam along with smaller colleges and universities. That has not eroded their brand value. The branding of an academic institution is not through an entrance examination but through the kind of intellectual capital it produces. The Brahminical arrogance of some institutions which consider themselves superior and others untouchable is not fair.”

    ==

    Dr. Pritam Singh is bang on target.

    These IIT-brahmins should also realise

    1) The JEE exams is not the end in itself. All round development of child takes place in a proper school / institution and not in coaching classes and by appearing in one entrance exam.

    2) Appearing for multiple exams is a financial burden (by way of examinations fees and perhaps travel to different centres) on (bright) students from not so well to do families.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That IIM guy is bullsh—g.

    There is no “common” entrance test for Harvard/MIT/Stanford etc.
    Each of them has their own criteria – a lot to do with high school GPA, activities (like charity, music, leadership roles, community service etc ), 2-3 essays, teachers’ recommendation etc. There is standard exam like SAT, but most of the leading universities do not care about it.

    I can understand why GOI wants to reduce the standard of all institutions.
    And why is this a big priority when there are other burning issues

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    manohar_T Reply:

    You must be mistaken if you think the GOI is trying to lower standards. The objective of the reforms is completely different.

    1) How does common entrance exam lower the standards of an Institute? Would you care to explain in detail?

    2) You have not addressed the point I raised about financial burden on brilliant students from not so well to do families. from where does he/she get the money from to appear for multiple exams? Beg, borrow or steal? GOI subsidy?

    3) If the view is that only the entrance test be criteria, then let there be no schools – only coaching classes all over to prepare students for engineering, medical or whatever careers. Why waste money on education at all.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    you are right. There is nothing in common between Wharton and a run of the mill management institute, even in America.

    IITs are uncommonly excellent technical colleges. They cannot be compared to MIT Manipal or the government Engineering college in Gurgaon.

    The IAS considers itself direct discendent of God Himself. Will never accept parity with state admn services, even though both have very similar entrance tests.

    What is good for the goose is good for the gander. The IAS chaps who “advise” Sibbal must step back and allow the IITs to function with full autonomy.

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    You have proved my point either way – if these top US universities do not give much credence to SAT or some such exams. What matters to them is what the student achieved in his/her school(s) and other personal attributes (all round education) rather than that one exam.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Two young women file plaint to annul their childhood marriages

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article3547824.ece

    Twenty-year-old Rekha Kumari, a resident of Peepar in Jodhpur district, has approached the Sub-Divisional Officer with a request to annul her marriage solemnised 15 years ago with a boy four years elder to her. She sought protection from the village panchayat members who, she said, were threatening her family.

    According to police sources, the village panchayat threatened to expel her family from the locality and warned of heavy fines if she did not accept her childhood marriage and start living with the man, who incidentally is also threatening to abduct her.

    Rekha, presently studying at the Government College in Peepar, was married off by her grandfather when she was only five years old. Her ‘gauna’ (shift to in-laws’ house) is yet to be performed.

    ==

    In another instance, 23-year-old Santara, a resident of Manpuria village
    in Dausa district, has refused to go back to her husband’s home, saying
    she was married in childhood when did not know anything about nuptial
    relations. She has lodged a complaint with the police accusing her
    community elders of pressurising her to live with the man.

    ==

    Brave women indeed.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Very brave women.

    The question is are the men here as brave or is some one going to raise the issue of Rochdale Four and the love Jihad.

    Pictures from such marriages can be found here.

    http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=child+marriages+in+india&hl=en&rlz=1R2SUNC_enGB394&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=udDgT_nfD8jR4QTtv7HSDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CG0QsAQ&biw=1280&bih=631

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Khap panchayat at work in the above case.
    ==

    Khap wants woman captured “dead or alive” for refusing to accept child marriage

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/khap-wants-woman-captured-dead-or-alive-for-refusing-to-accept-child-marriage/1/201432.html
    Excerpt

    Following the panchayat’s decision , Santara’s husband Dinesh and her in-laws locked her in a room of her parent’s house in Pyariwas village, approximately 15 km from Dausa, on June 16 to take her away forcibly.

    Santara managed to escape at around 2.30 am on Saturday and walked a distance of 3 kilometres before taking a bus to Jaipur, which is 60 km from Dausa. She reached a relative’s house in Jaipur and contacted senior advocate Hemraj Gaur for assistance.

    Santara’s scared father, Ram Prasad Meena, also fled the village along with his family, including wife, old mother and two young daughters-in-laws, when he came to know about his daughter’s disappearance.

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    Ravi Reply:

    I salute these young women. It must have taken extraordinary courage to achieve what they did.

    Anonymous Reply:

    why do you have to stoop low always?

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    Just so I can say Hello to you and remind you about the kerfuffle caused by – you know who – when a Judge in India ruled a 15 year old Muslim girls wedding legal.

    Lots of people commented about that here, conveniently forgetting the prevalence of child marriage in India.

    Anonymous Reply:

    u r out of your mind and you are comparing apples and oranges.

    It was the stupidity of the judge or his desire to keep a group under permanent backwardness when he ruled 15yr olds marriage is OK for Muslims.

    it is another thing when a group of people are breaking law (as these families have done). They should be prosecuted. Rajastan is governed by Congress, and they should not allow these to happen, and prosecute to the fullest if it happens.

    Ravi Reply:

    I suggest you read what you have just written then think if you are out of your mind.

    The two scenarios are entirely comparable. The issue that remains to be answered is that why do you stoop low enough to confirm your Islamophobia.

    Of the two communities here, which do you believe is more
    backward than the other.

    If the Judge and the Congress party is keeping the Muslims backward, then who is responsible for permanent backwardness of these Hindu communities who for centuries have been practicing child marriages in Rajasthan, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, Maharashtra to name a few.

    Anonymous Reply:

    There is absolutely no child marriage in Karnataka.

    Fake Ravi, you should control your urge to go overboard in your passion to denigrate Hindu society, no matter how loudly the deserter congressi troll may clap from the sidelines.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi
    Your argument fails the smell test.
    Child marriage is illegal, and as Hegde pointed the authorities should take legal actions.
    The Judge’s action makes this illegal action legal for some community

    Ravi Reply:

    It may be illegal, but still widely practised. In each of these weddings a Priest is present, they are therefore sanctified. Are you therefore suggesting the priests are actively involved in illegal activities.

    What do you smell when you hide behind this pathetic legality VS widely practiced ancient custom atguement.

    You slectively hold your nose.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Binoy;
    I thought that I will interact with Ravi and may be I can instill some sense in him. But that is not going to happen. he is on a mission. I have given up, so you should.

    Ravi Reply:

    Chicken

    Anonymous Reply:

    He doesn’t stoop low, he resides there.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well engrich behind him can serve him better… in the stooped position

  • pankaj#1

    Ravi;
    Just go and read **** papers. no more kabbadi here.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    Why what do you think I will find there.
    What is wrong with Indian Papers or IHT my regular foffer.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    We love to read Indian papers. So Pankaj ji suggests, you will enjoy reading **** papers.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    I was just wondering, when I have all the world to go and blog, why I come here??
    It is because, we have here, RAVI, MANOHAR, PATHAK G, AND FEW MORE. Where I will find such fruitful company,? No where. Having said this, I am happy that there are Shenoy, Vijay, Vinoo, Binoy, Gopi and countless others, who will say truth, whatever is the consequence.

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    Thank you, Pankaj.

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  • Anonymous

    Beizati aur biwi badee ajeeb cheez hoti hai
    Dono achi tab lagti hai jab doosron ki hoti hai.

    Good morning friends.

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  • Anonymous

    Violations of women’s rights must stop.
    http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists/violations-of-women-s-rights-must-stop-1.1037916

    Men’s obsession with marrying younger women sometimes borders on paedophilia.

    But, the world has moved on in the past 1,500 years. It is for that reason that we no longer cut off the hands of thieves. It is also why we no longer stone Muslim adulterers to death. It is indeed gratifying to learn that you can get married in the UAE if you are 18 years old. However, if you are less than that legal age, a judge will have to decide whether you are competent enough to wed and not leave the decision to your father or brother. The UAE seems, once again, to be way ahead of the rest of the Arab pack.

    This article is published in news paper comming out of Dubai.

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  • Anonymous

    Treachery now has a new name: Mulayam Yadav (He should voluntarily give up the surname Singh).

    He has made sure, India doesn’t deserve Dr.Kalam.
    India only deserves Pratibha Patil and hewr likes.

    After jointly announcing the name of Kalam for president, Mulayam and Mamta went and met him and “persuaded” him to contest. Kalam agreed, because the last time, it was Mulayam himself who suggested his name.

    After being arm-twisted by Sonia Gandhi’s very persuasive argument, “Anybody but Kalam”, Mulayam literally back-stabbed Kalam and gave his support to Pranab Mukharjee.

    Not only that, he also spoke to Kalam and told him not to contest.

    A very decent ex-president very decently agreed.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ SHenoy

    If Mulayam becomes the PM… then India will have the misfortune of being the only state in the world where the PM would have consorted and pampered with

    a) Killers — Mukhtar Ansari, Raja Bhaiyya.

    b) Kidnappers and killers — DP Yadav, Karan pal

    c) Dhalas and dalals — Amar SIngh,

    Mulyam Singh and his party are hand in glove with many a mafiosi. It is INdia’s misfortune that one day we would be probably ruled by him or Mamta

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay/Shenoy

    It is because Indian public can be easily fooled.

    What is the national fruit of India which is mostly used by our politicians?
    Chutiya BANANA

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    Mohan

    Frankly because the state of UP is too big– biggern in population than most UN countries, the only way politicains get votes is saying that “You are a minority being exploited and I will save you.”

    Make everyone a minority of religion, caste or language and then pretend to be a saviour. Crime and character, performance or policy does not matter here.

    Raja Bhaiyaa a killer of at least 20 is a thakur hero. D P Yadav, a kidnapper and killer was projected as a saviour of Yadavs. DP started life with the COngress, joined Mulayam and served a s MInister in Mayawait’s cabinet. He even got himself elected as the president of the HIndustan TIems employees union — to exert pressure.

    Mukhtar Ansari is the saviour of minoirites– even though he murders and kills.

    Amarmani Tripathi– who besides killing innocents also killed his mistress– is a Brahimin savior and has been Minister with Mayawati and Mulayam.

    This is a funny country where minorities of all sorts are created.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju
    Manohar calls it democracy.
    And these goondas are supreme because they are the elected reps.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Sad days ahead in case 2014 tosses up a mandate which gets Mulyam singh with a possibilty of becoming the PM.

    Our media will hail him as a secular giant.

    Our criminals will hail hims as Raja Bhaiyya

    India will be sold of for a song.

    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS
    Maulayam will double deal with Sonia and topple her. We may all long for the good old days of Sonia when he and his gang take over.

    Manohar says parliament is supreme, democracy is golden…..!!!

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  • Anonymous

    Doctor to injured patient : Jab car ek lady chala rahi thi to tumko road se
    durr chalna chaiye tha
    Patient : Kaun sa road, mein to park me leta hua tha.

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Possible scenario

    The patient was the lady driver’s husband. And he was lying in the park with another lady…

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Than that lady would have been in even worse condition.

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    Possibly… would have never made it to the doctor…

  • Anonymous

    People who wonder why nothing works in India or why progress is snail paced should read Mohan’s reference to “Why nations fail”

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Looks like an all out war is on the horizon and we would probably see realignment of political parties. Interesting days ahead.

    ===

    RSS supports Narendra Modi as PM, slams Nitish Kumar

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/RSS-supports-Narendra-Modi-as-PM-slams-Nitish-Kumar/articleshow/14293305.cms

    RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat on Wednesday supported Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi as NDA’s prime ministerial candidate and slammed Bihar CM Nitish Kumar for saying that NDA should have a secular PM nominee.

    “To keep alive the Hindutva ideology, the Hindu ’samaaj’ (society)
    should come together. And the country should have a prime minister who
    believes in that ideology or propounds that view,” Bhagwat told
    reporters.

    ===

    Nitish: Modi did not follow Raj Dharma during Gujarat riots

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Nitish-Modi-did-not-follow-Raj-Dharma-during-Gujarat-riots/Article1-875397.aspx

    Tiwari said that few postpoll surveys had pointed out that had the
    then Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee “dismissed” the Narendra Modi
    government after post-Godhra riots, the NDA would not have lost the 2004
    general elections.

    He said while Vajpayee had asked Modi to follow the ‘Raj Dharma’ and
    wanted the government to go, the move was “vetoed” by BJP leaders like
    LK Advani.

    “People who voted for BJP due to liberal face of Vajpayee went away
    from it after Gujarat riots and the floating votes went to Congress
    because people do not accept fanatic politics,” he said.

    “Those people in BJP who want the party to come to power will have to
    realise that they cannot do it by putting a fanatic face in the front,”
    Tiwari said in an apparent reference to Modi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The way things are hotting up, it looks like that we may have mid
    term elections.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar
    Looks like media has started “creating” news.
    I did not see anywhere in the TOI coverage where Bhgawat imade supporting statement on Modi. He did slam Nitish –

    Not only Bhagwat, many Indians (including me) take exception to Nitish statement. Nitish monodimensioned and trivialized the PM position indicating secularism is the numero ono attribute of a PM..

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    You may be right – TOI has chosen to interpret his statement as such.

    Who takes exception to whose statements is a matter for individual to decide, depending upon which ideology one supports. Who is in majority only time will tell.

    As I see it – Nitish Kumar (whatever he may say in public) he is surely aiming for the PM’s chair and is busy in his attempts to ‘eliminate’ any (real or perceived) rivals, hence Modi is his first target or is he preparing the ground to part ways with the BJP – he does not need BJP support in Bihar to survive until next assembly elections in 2015?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    All will be better off with media stopping its interpretation business – that they can leave it to the opinion pages; but not in reporting.

    Nitish is openly canvassing/trying to eliminate — That is OK and I like the guts.

    My respect for him has gone down (not that it matters) based on his statements about the “qualifications” of a PM- I thought he was above pandering; and he is coming across the mother of panderers.

    manohar_T Reply:

    He has a view on the qualifications a PM should have, but then Mohan Bhagwat has another (read above) – one who supports Hindutva ideology.

    Who is winning? Currently Nitish, if you ask me.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nitish did not have “view” of the qualificationS – he had only one required qualification (singular).
    Bhagawat does not run any political party and his views do not count an ounce.
    Nitish obviously solidifies his Bihar situation, now that the politics there is fluid with the killing of Ranvir guy. i do not think he improves his PM possibility; but of course diminishes Modi’s through these stupid statements

    manohar_T Reply:

    Who says Bhagwat’s views do not count? They certainly count in the BJP. Try and find one BJP leader (what about Modi?) or a member to contradict him on any matter.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Bhagwats views are similar to the views of any “club” president. He does not lead any political party. With the member size of his club he can exert a pressure, like any organization.
    I do not see anybody having to contradict anything he says as long as he is within the legal bounds.

    manohar_T Reply:

    If you wish to believe that Mohan Bhagwat does not remote control the BJP, be my guest several times over.

    Who imposed Nitin Gadkari as BJP chief? Who ensured that he gets another term?

  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Presidential poll: NDA defers meeting

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Presidential-poll-NDA-defers-meeting/articleshow/14293067.cms

    With uncertainty over P A Sangma’s candidature for the presidential poll in the wake of NCP’s threat to sack him, BJP today decided to adopt a wait and watch attitude and deferred the NDA meeting.

    ==

    Strange that the BJP cannot find its own candidate – both Pranab Mukherjee and P A Sangma belong to the UPA side. First they tried to back a person who was not in the race to begin with. Now they are waiting for what happens to latter’s prospects – enough pressure is being put on him by Sharad Pawar. We will have to wait and see.

    The BJP is hoping to bring JD(U) on board re Presidential elections, but with Nitish Kumar – vs – Narendra Modi battle in full swing, it is not likely that the JD(U) is going to fall in line. Shiv Sena has already made its stand clear in support of Pranab Mukherjee. Where does that leave the BJP?

    As Swapan Dasgupta suggested that the BJP should not waste its gunpowder on the Presidential elections and save it for many more battles that will follow. To me it looks like, some leaders in the BJP have made it a prestige issue of putting/supporting a candidate never mind the consequences.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I agree with Swapan. It will be foolish for BJP/NDA to put any candidate now. But BJP has done more foolish things. It is a party who slams its welcome doors to success.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    One more great quote about BJP from Gopiji.

    It is a party who slams its welcome doors to success.

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  • Anonymous

    India Today Editorial Director M.J.
    Akbar on the politics behind Presidential polls 2012

    Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/india-today-editorial-director-m.j.-akbar-on-the-politics-behind-presidential-polls-2012/1/200838.html

    The Congress, for reasons best known to itself, assumed that it could live above the reach of growing public anger and still control events by a wave of Mrs Sonia Gandhi’s magic wand. Mulayam Singh Yadav and Mamata Banerjee have drained the magic out of this wand by telling Congress that omnipotence may work with gods, but is not sustainable in human affairs.

    UPA can pretend that this is business as usual, and the PM blithely continue on his 10-day tour to the more exotic parts of the world, but his Government has become about as fragile as that of Deve Gowda or Inder Gujral after Congress withdrew its support. When democracy slides off into confusion, there is only one solution: more democracy. Time for fresh elections.

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    The write up (dated June 15, 2012) is past its shelf life. Things have changed dramatically since then.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    What has changed dramatically? Although Maulyam did his double deal, doesnt the fundamentals remain the same?

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    Read the article in full and check out the conclusions he has drawn.

    Though I agree with him – fresh elections is the need od the hour – to clear up the mess that has accumulated. All parties need to be shown their places – that is what democracy is all about. No need for Jasmine revolutions – the results of which are not necessarily desirable – the solution turns out to be worse or equally bad as the disease.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I hjave three bridges to sell to you if you think elections will solve our problem.
    Did you read Mohans link to “why nations fail”

    manohar_T Reply:

    I know that you do not believe in democracy. Recall your advocacy of firing squad, army takeover, etc.. etc., which again are remedies worse than the disease. You have never come up with a credible and civilized alternative. Its all been cowboy western stuff – bang bang bang.

    Keep building up an inventory of bridges. I will come by some day to check out the ‘mythical goods’ on sale.

    No one says any system is perfect or foolproof. We have to choose the least of all evils.

  • vijay !

    ————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~ EUREKA !! EUREKA !!! CHANGE HAS HAPPENED ~~~ !!

    One good thing I have noticed is nobody is giving spin of the mythological powers of Sonia G, Baby G and Robert G and tried to give them credit for getting Pranab into the President’s seat. In fact Mulayam has taken the credit here… saying that the Congress was actually reluctant to push up Pranab Da.

    NDTV, the opening batsman of Dynastic, family rule in fact revealed that Sonia does NOT trust Dada as he put up his hand for PM’s seat in 1984.

    My good ol’ pal Pathak G has chosen to withdraw form the blog (very unfotunate), rather than defend the indefinsible performance of Digvinash, Baby G and Sonia G.

    I hope he has changed his mind on dynastic succession and family rule…. :)

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, looks like a true family dynasty is being formed with Maulyam, Akhilesh, Dimple (I do like the couple; they look good) , Maulyam’s brothers…..
    May be it is better to have a “full” Indian than “half” Indian.. or may be not – foreigners are less corrupt!

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Gopi

    This at best would be UP dynasty with a few thousand crores in loot paat. But in case a movement starts for broad basing democracy… I am sure slowly but surely the innocents who talk about the thier love for being naukers of the Nehru Gandhi parivar, will start getting shamed…

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  • Anonymous

    Purno Sangma has resigned from the NCP. The NCP has 15 MLAS in the the 59 member strong Meghalaya Assembly. The Congress has 26. Will Sangma’s resignation lead to political uncertainty in Meghalaya ? Has the NDA got one more friend if not an ally yet ?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Well it will get an ally!

    But there is tension with Nitish.m Wahaan par kheech taan hogi!!

    ALL MODI MODI RAPE RAPE GUYS CAN BE DELIGHTED FOR NOW !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay
    Muslims are a dominant factor in the electoral politics of UP , Bihar , West Bengal and Kerala. For the ploitical allies of the BJP in these states only , Modi shall be a restraining factor . For other parties like the BJD , Sangma , Modi is no issue. AIADMK has already declared its friendship with Modi.

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well strangely Mayawait will be partial to Modi… being single..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kerala is not a seat rich state, with only 19 or 20 Lok Sabha seats. It has been alternating between marxists and UPA (UDF here).

    Marxists are in a bad situation because of Muslim league. In the last assembly elections, they lost the majority; with the margin of loss in many seats less than 3000. BJP got anywhere from 5000 to 30,000 in the seats they contested, although they did not win a single seat.

    So, the only way Marxists can come back in kerala is with some understanding with a party that has a small presence all across the state.

    It is possible a kerala only “marxist-BJP” alliance. Starnger things have happened in politics. This alliance will win all but one or two Lok Sabha seats that will go to Muslim league or UPA

    vijay ! Reply:

    Would be a very strange alliance !! Prakash karat is from kerala… he would probably shout Modi Modi Rape rape..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, Congress says Muslim league in kerala is not communal (and hence their alliance).
    Marxists can say BJP in kerala is secular and form an alliance. In fact, if Marxists do not get into a relation, they will never take back Kerala assembly.

    vijay ! Reply:

    It reall will open the cupboards of these fake seculars.

    I remember Ram Vilas Paswan was with the NDA. Just in the end he saw a change of wind… he started shouting secularism and changed boats…

    So did so may others…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Only communals speak of secularism.

  • Anonymous

    Different types of orgasam

    Positive O Yes O Yess Yesss.

    Negative
    O No O Noo Nooo.

    Spiritual : Oh God Oh Godd, I’m coming.

    Classical Indian Nahin Nahiin Nahiiin.

    Rock ‘n’ Roll Oh Baby Oh Yeah, Oh Baby C’mon.

    Heavy Metal
    Come on Honey, Harder, Yeahhh Baby.

    The Grand Maratha  Aai Ga, Aayyi Aayyi Aayyii Gaa.

    The Parsi Oh Mummy Mummy Mummy.

    The Gujju Oh Bhagwan mari gai, mari gai…ahhhh.

    The South Indian Aaiiyo Aaiiyo Swami, Aaiyayyo Ssswaaami.

    Punjabi Chal Utar Ja Huun meinu hor v kaam karne hain !!!

    Sindhi Sutho, sutho, . Hey Jhulelal,  jhulelal, dado sutho

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Graandddd !

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hey Bhagwaaaaaaan, kaisi besharmi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    Not to forget a politician’s orgasm

    Kkkkkkk uuuuuuuuuuu rrrrrrrrrr sssssssss iiiiiiiiiiiiiii :)

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  • Anonymous

    America and Two Pakistans.- an interesting article by Stephen Cohen, a US/India/Pak expert

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/opinion/america-and-the-two-pakistans.html?smid=pl-share

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    Binoy… the link did not work….

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is working now..Thanks!

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    A boy went to a girl’s hgouse with a rose, to propose to her.
    He rang the bell.
    Girl’s father came out, opening the door.

    Boy: “uncle, please support Anna Hazare….”

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    80 year unmarried Anna Hazare comes to the rescue of young lover.
    Good one.

    [Reply]

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ha Ha. Good one.

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  • vijay !

    ==============================================================
    ~~~~ YEH LAAL RANG KAB MUJHE CHODDEGA ~~~~~~
    ————————————————————————————————–

    @ Gopi

    Well it seems that the intelligent keralites do seem fed up of the Reds. Now here is a suggestion. Let us all start a movement called “When will this red color free me… !”

    There was a Rajesh Khanna song sung by Kishore Kumar, with the same words. My Mom was a big fan of Rjaesh khanna and recently I gave her a Rajesh Khanna CD collection…. and when I heard this song….

    I am inspired to start a movement against these reds !!!

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  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS ======BREAKING NEWS
    ——————————————————–
    LALOO JOINS HANDS WITH RSS…….ATTACKS NITISH
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    RSS supports Narendra Modi as PM, slams Nitish Kumar
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes...

    Today, Laloo Prasad slammed Nitish for his pseudo secularism.

    He has questioned Nitish Kumar’s stand in 2002 as Railway minister under Vajapayee. He didn’t even set up a Railways Inquiry commission then.

    Laloo says secular Nitish lives happily with communal BJP in his ministry.

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  • NitinGupta

    Manmohan’s sermon at Los Cabos :

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/article3547667.ece

    ====
    MMS makes India proud. Conducted himself as a true thought leader.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Our Economist PM. Good outside India, Bad in India.
    High inflation, lower growth, depreciating rupee, stock market going down, uncontrollable corruption. The reason for all this according to our PM is coalition compulsions.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Basically there was no Sonia G staring at him, no Digivinash trying to insult and topple him… and no Baby G, with milk bottle in hand , jumping and saying– give me kursi, give me power.
    Without these dynastic succession trolls wanting to reduce India to a naukercy, Manmohan Singh is King….

    [Reply]

    NitinGupta Reply:

    And no Advani to abuse him from the sideline and lower the dignity.

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    Cmon Advani is not to blame. You mean that the UPA is impotent becasue of Advani? Very Funny!!
    UPA is impotent becasue of naukercy to a family !

    NitinGupta Reply:

    Don’t you see the BJP getting fr…d left and right? Can’t even find a Presidential candidate from its own stable….all gay hizraaas

    vijay ! Reply:

    I think that is pretty strong ! Your loyalty to naukercy is too strong!!
    You know in the old Hindi films… the serrvant would give up his life tryign to clean the boots of the fuedal lord who would kick him in the head.
    I think Nitin you need to wake up and see India has moved from mental slavery… and so should your…

    NitinGupta Reply:

    You get more than you give. Start a fire, get ready to burn.

    vijay ! Reply:

    I love to fire fight… and stop people from burning their life thinking that Being a family nauker is my destiny …. and zindagi ab maalik ke charanon mein guzaregi….

    NitinGupta Reply:

    Tell your party to stand straight before advising others. Go help the BJP. They need a fire fighter. Don’t forget to take a few gallons of water. Perhaps a gush of water will help them wake up from their slumber.

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Nitin

    This is how the BJP will get good image (s)

    a) Rajya Sabha seats to maaliks of a few news organisations

    b) Some big power/construction/ real estate projects to media organisatons owned by business houses

    c) Housing societies to journos and media men

    Let me tell you the scednario changes in 30 days.

    NitinGupta Reply:

    This is how the BJP gets good image (s)

    a) Land and plots to all judges just before trial of a major case.
    b) Finance the foreign trips of officials investigating a major case.
    c) Bribe journalists to talk high of the Anti-corruption Rath yatra.

    Ravi Reply:

    Nitin…Does this really happen…..noooooooo not cleaner than clean BJP……………..noooooooooo

    vijay ! Reply:

    Nitin Nitin my pal

    remove the judge… proclaim the emegency…. JML Sinha ki kahaani unk zubaanni….

    vijay ! Reply:

    For Baby G and Digvinash G my song

    मज़धार में नैय्या डोले, तो मांझी पार लगाए
    मांझी जो नाव डुबोए उसे कौन बचाए?

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Nitin;
    Showing your colors now. Started abusing and all that, whom you are fronting?? language sounds familiar.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Old pals are always welcome … Pankaj !! In new bottles… It is all gud fun!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nitin,

    What has BJP not finding a President nominee with the
    article you have posted ?

    NitinGupta Reply:

    It was about an enlightened discussion on the impotency of the political parties.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nitin,

    I did not know that an impotent can father a child. Here
    impotency has given birth to Mammoth corruption,
    dynasty, chamcahagiri, fake secularism and many other
    unwanted children.

    NitinGupta Reply:

    Your reply should have been directed to Vijay.

    Nevertheless, the impotency always leads to certain inertia that is difficult to break. One of that is “inaction”. Second one is the desire to find a “surrogate father” who can father and hand over the child on the lap. A distinctive feature of BJP.

  • Anonymous

    India condemning millions to stay poor, Lakshmi Narayan Mittal
    says

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/India-condemning-millions-to-stay-poor-Lakshmi-Narayan-Mittal-says/articleshow/14304306.cms

    ArcelorMittal is waiting for six years to implement its USD 30 billion projects
    mostly in Odisha and Jharkhand states,
    facing problems relating to land acquisition and regulatory issues.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Gopi and all

    You have coined three very popular and apt statements.

    1) the BJP works overtime to lose elections.

    2) The BJP does not know how to unwrap gift boxes

    3) The BJP slams its welcome doors to success.

    Empirical evidence suggests it probably is so.

    ==

    The question arises as to why it is so?

    1) Is it the quality and the mental make-up of people who have joined
    the BJP and some of them are holding leadership positions today?

    or

    2) Is it the ideology of the RSS/BJP that acts as an handicap for its
    failure to grab opportunities that come its way (and they have been
    plenty for the last two years or so)?

    or

    3) Is it the combination of both?

    or

    4) Are there some other reasons?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rubbish ruling party – rubbish opposition. Both compliment each other.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    The BJP is not so bad. The biased media is against it. It is generally pro free enterprise has very less corruption and has an ideolgy for stronger India.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    The end of Empire

    Samar Halarnkar

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/Samar/The-end-of-Empire/Article1-875788.aspx

    In his 1655 book Voyage to the East-Indies, English clergyman Edward Terry notes how foresight appeared lacking in Indian battles. “The armies on both sides,” says Terry, “usually beginne with most furious onsets, but in short time, for want of good discipline, one side is routed and the controversie, not without much slaughter, is decided.”

    ==

    The writer Abraham Eraly narrates how the declining days of the Mughal empire were marked by soldiers putting personal benefit above king, God and country. During Aurangzeb’s Deccan campaign, says Eraly, Mughal officers at times took money from the Marathas not to act against them — or gave money to the Marathas, to stop the harassment. The generals bickered and worked at cross purposes, “hindering each other and frustrating campaigns”, he writes in his 1997 account of Mughal India, The Last Spring.

    Do these observations still sound familiar? That is because something
    intrinsic to the Indian character has not changed over hundreds of years.

    So it was the past week.

    Regional satraps Mamata Banerjee and Mulayam Singh joined forces overnight, made loud declarations of battle against the Congress, fulcrum of the ruling coalition, only to break up the next day. Mulayam, with an eye possibly on general elections in 2014 and realising his son needs federal support, then backed the UPA. The UPA’s so-called ally, Mamata, opened a new front on, er, Facebook. In the BJP, fulcrum of the Opposition, it was evident there was no candidate or plan, except to oppose anyone the UPA proposes (though not every BJP ally thinks so).

    ==

    The Maratha confederacy, for instance, gained enough power to occupy Delhi, but its chieftains, never empire builders, yielded quickly to the British. The Mughals somehow clung to power, until Bahadur Shah Zafar’s dominion ended at the gates of Delhi. His poetry reflected their eclipse. Those who rule Delhi today — and aspire to tomorrow — would do well to heed India’s last emperor:Na kisi ki aankh ka noor hoon, na kisi ke dil ka qaraar hoonJo kisi ke kaam na aa sake main vho ek musht-e-ghubaar hoon(I am neither the light in any eye, nor the solace to any heartI am no use to anyone, a handful of dust).

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  • vijay !

    “Raj Karega HIndustani….” WHo said this?

    Well it was Sharad pawar…. who deep down knows that it is shame on India to have fallen to levels of naukercy where family rule and dynastic succession have taken the national jewel called Indian national Congress into the hands of
    Baby G’s, Sonia G’s and Digviansh G…

    Cmon Pathak G…. your considered opinion on this….

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  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ WHERE THE HELL HAVE THE LYRIC WRITERS DISAPPEARED ?????? ~~~~~~~
    ————————————————————————————————————-

    i am watching an old Rajesh Khanna film with my parents… a promise I had to keep since I had been pretty busy for the past month.

    I am stuck by the depth of the lyrics… something which few songs have now.

    In fact I had met the lyric writer Anand Bakshi at a friends plcace years back.. I was a pimply kid… and he was a whisky guzzling heavyset Punjabi– like some of my biradari. But now when I think of him … as I read this lyrics… I have new respect for him. And wonder wy…. but why… cannot the writers get the emotion into the lyrics….

    चिंगारी कोइ भड़के, तो सावन उसे बुझाए
    सावन जो अगन लगाए, उसे कौन बुझाए?
    पतझड जो बाग़ उजाड़े, वो बाग़ बहार खिलाये
    जो बाग़ बहार में उजड़े, उसे कौन खिलाये?

    हम से मत पूछो कैसे, मंदिर टूटा सपनों का
    लोगों की बात नहीं है, ये किस्सा हैं अपनों का
    कोइ दुश्मन ठेंस लगाए, तो मीत जिया बहलाए
    मनमीत जो घांव लगाए, उसे कौन मिटाए?

    ना जाने क्या हो जाता, जाने हम क्या कर जाते
    पीते हैं तो ज़िंदा है, ना पिते तो मर जाते
    दुनिया जो प्यासा रखे, तो मदिरा प्यास बुझाए

    मदिरा जो प्यास लगाए, उसे कौन बुझाए?

    माना तूफ़ान के आगे, नहीं चलता जोर किसी का
    मौजों का दोष नहीं है, ये दोष हैं और किसी का
    मज़धार में नैय्या डोले, तो मांझी पार लगाए
    मांझी जो नाव डुबोए उसे कौन बचाए?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Anand Bakshi was a good lyricist, but he could seldom reach the heights of poetry like Shakeel Badayuni, Sahir Ludhiyanavi or even Shailendra routinely did, film after film.

    Just compare the above Rajesh Khanna ?Kishore Kumar song of lyrical beauty with this Mehbooba song, which is school boyish in its choice of words:

    “baat puraanii hai, ek kahaanii hai
    ab sochoon tumhen, yaad nahin hai
    ab sochoon nahin bhoole, voh saavan ke jhoole
    R^itu aaye r^itu jaaye deke
    jhootha ek dilaasaa, phir bhii mera man pyaasa…

    barason beet gaye hamako mile bichhade
    bijuri banakar, gagan pe chamake
    beete samay ki rekhaa, main ne tum ko dekhaa
    man sang aankh-michaulii khele
    aashaa aur niraashaa, phir bhi mera man pyaasa… “

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Condition of original super star Rajesh Khanna is critical. He has stopped eating since last few days.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    It is a sad news. He is relatively young and I hope and pray he will recover and live a long, healthy life.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    At this point of time, I am more pro BJP than Congress but BJP, every passing day, appears more dud. where is Arun jaitley, Sushma Swaraj, yashwantji, jaswant ji, and what about the next Generation? what about Adwani??Everybody is more sleepy than next. If it comes to that, then let the Modi take the command and remove these sleepy people. No fresh ideas, no initiatives. Gopi is right in his diagnosis, the only thing missing is treatment.

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  • Anonymous

    Ishwar, you wanted me to share my experience in Milano. here you have it. Yes it was ryan air to BERGAMO. I took the funicular train climbing a steep 45 degree to Cittica alta. It was incredible, the cobbled streets and houses are from the middle ages. Next was SIRMIONE , mind boggling , just type the name in google images , you will know what i am saying. THE FUNDAMENTAL THING THAT STRUCK ME , SO FEW PEOPLE , AND THERE IN LIES THE ANSWER TO ALL OF INDIA’S MISERIES.
    nEXT i WENT TO VERONA , there is a house with a balcony , known as Juliet’s house from Romeo and Juliet. Apparently Romeo and Juliet is partly fact.
    Milan is MIND BOGGLINGLY expensive
    Saw the seventh wonder of the world Leonardo Da Vinci’s painting on the walls of the monastery *** church SANTA MARIA DELLA GRAZIA.You need to book ticket well in advance for a month.
    Also saw with my own eyes WHAT BARBARISM RELIGION can inflict.
    The Bishop in order to enlarge the entrance to the kitchen , chopped off the part of the picture showing christ’s legs. SO MUCH FOR DEVOTION.
    there is so much i can talk about Milan cathedral,, like Donato Bramante , And Rondadini Pietta , if interested let me know

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shan;
    As, I could have asked you about your experience about Milano, my, son, daughter do European tours. My subordinates go on umpteenth number of trips to Eurpoe, but I will not, so much to do right now and here. Would love to share your experience about Michael Angelo, and Florence. House of Medici etc.

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    Ravi Reply:

    You have “subordinates”….interesting.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,

    You did not visit Rome that damaged structure Colosseum where mock
    battles and executions used to take place?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks Shan for sharing this. The fun is in being there!!

    I haven’t travelled a lot, I love it but can’t afford it.

    As you talked about the beauty of Sirmione on Lake Garda, you noted that there are “so few people, and there in lies the answer to all of India’s miseries”. I used to think on similar lines but off late somehow I have started to question this theory. How much population is too much? I beleive that more population is more human resource – if all of us can be given the right skills and opportunity, can’t we together produce a higher GDP for the nation?

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    It is good that BJP is going ahead with Sangama, Sena or no Sena. JDU or no JDU, ultimately, you should prove your self, all variables taken into account. If your ideology and thought process is winner, you win. Otherwise youa are a loser. Give it a chance.
    Frogs, who ae croaking, on shear number of of MPs will have to answer. You can not melt away.

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  • Anonymous

    Wife: What would you like to do the most if you come to know that world
    is going to end in one hour?
    Husband: Sex, of course.
    Wife: what would you do for remaining 59 minutes?

    Good morning friends.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    He will regret the one minute for the next fifty nine minutes.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Mulayam Singh is agent of BJP, claims Congress spokes person
    Rashid Alvi.

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  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS———- BREAKING NEWS
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Our great secular (limited edition) fellow blogger (?) Pathakji has, like a zahreela saamp, shed the over-used cover and has adopted a new identity: NITIN GUPTA.
    First a Brahmin, then a Kshatriya, now a bania, next…………

    He is careful to remain a Hindu, like engrich.

    We are looking at interesting times and happy blogging.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Saab
    Parde mein rehne do… parda na uthao…. Parda jo uth gaya to bhed khul jayega.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Actually he wanted to become an actor when he was young. Since he could not achieve his ambition he is trying to perform here on this blog
    in different rolls. Only problem is that unlike other actors who change
    there style of acting as the roll demands here our friend is not able to change his style of acting. Remember those old actors Bharat Bhushan,
    Pradeep Kumar, and Vishwajeet, give them any roll whether of a king or
    of a beggar but their style of acting would never change.
    But I Still love and enjoy discussing with him on various subjects.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    The resistible rise of Modi
    Christophe Jaffrelot – co-editor of ‘Muslims in Indian Cities’, is a senior research fellow at CERI, Sciences Po, Paris and professor of Indian politics and society at the King’s India Institute, London

    http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/the-resistible-rise-of-modi/964585/

    ==

    Excerpts

    n the post-Bofors context, the BJP had made a name for itself against a corrupt Congress: it was clean, it was a party “with a difference”. After six years at the Centre and at the helm of many state governments, this myth has imploded. Today, even as the Sangh Parivar supports the Anna Hazare movement, its own political wing is struggling with scores of serious cases of misdemeanour, including that of businessman Anshuman Mishra and former Karnataka chief minister B.S. Yeddyurappa, not to say anything of the induction of former BSP leader Babu Singh Kushwaha whom the BJP has previously denounced as “tainted”.

    But this is nothing compared to the development of a much more serious disease, by RSS standards — the rise of indiscipline. In February, after leaving the BJP branch of Himachal Pradesh, rebels led by four-time MP Maheshwar Singh announced the formation of a new political outfit named Himachal Pradesh Lokhit Party (HPLP). Last month, in Rajasthan, Gulab Chand Kataria announced a yatra to protest Congress governance in the state. The state party leader, Vasundhara Raje, however, thought that only she could convene a yatra. Having had her authority challenged, Raje complained to BJP President Nitin Gadkari,threatened to resign, and had 52 of 78 MLAs back her. And now, BJP CMs are congratulating Pranab Mukherjee for the strong chance that he may be president, even though P.A. Sangma may be their official candidate.

    ==

    To counter Modi, a coalition may take shape across the board, gathering together his opponents in the BJP and in the rest of the Sangh Parivar. This irregular coalition may support Gadkari, Advani or someone else of their choice as prime-ministerial candidate in 2014, knowing that none of them could give a decisive fight. To see whether his rise is resistible, we may have to wait for the Gujarat elections. Are Indian voters — disillusioned by the Congress and others of the political class, and affected by the economic slump — willing to turn to an authoritarian and inegalitarian administration?

    Either way, the BJP’s troubles are set to multiply. It will either continue to suffer from a leadership problem or lose more allies. The NDA has shrunk from 17 parties to seven since the late 1990s. And the selection of Modi as a candidate for prime ministership would alienate more allies, including the JD(U) — which is already supporting Mukherjee for the post of president. The disintegration of the NDA, if it continues, will accelerate the formation of a third front under the aegis of regional parties like the JD(U), Nitish Kumar being a credible candidate for PM himself. This is the scenario that may unfold even if Modi is not the BJP’s chosen leader, given the steady rise of state parties at the expense of the national parties over the last 20 years.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    What does this author mean by an authoritarian and inegalitarian administration? Has he ever been to Gujarat or he has written this
    by reading some news papers and watching TV channels?

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    manohar_T Reply:

    What makes you think that he has not been to Gujarat, has not referenced various sources? He holds very responsible faculty positions, he would not write anything to damage his own standing and credentials, just based on hearsay or rumours or on his own prejudices (if any). He is not an armchair writer or critic, if that is what you are hinting at.

    Having said that you may or may not agree with what he has written. You may put out forth your own counter arguments.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I raised this point because I did not agree with the writer.
    He should have given some examples of authoritarian and inegalitarian administration in Gujarat instead of just labeling
    it without any proof.

    manohar_T Reply:

    The general view is the he is authoritarian and inegalitarian.

    He is not a team player for sure. Instead of carrying along his own party men, he has sought to and succeeded in excluding them from the scheme of things – turning friends and associates into enemies. ‘Modi is Gujarat, Gujarat is Modi’ – isn’t that the message which has been sent across. His line is ‘my way and no other’. Whether it is a good thing or bad, would depend upon one’s viewpoint. My view is that if you are not a team player, you do not go very far.

    Proof – Sanjay Joshi episode is the latest. Hounding police officers, who have refused to toe his line are another. Keshubhai Patel and Suresh Mehta are busy tarnishing his name and snapping at him, instead of helping him to reach Delhi. Someone can go back 10 years and come up with more instances.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Modi is not carrying along is own party men because they
    want to steal and he is not allowing them to do that.
    His line my way and not other is only for the development
    and prosperity of Gujarat. Keshubhai Patel and Suresh
    Mehta have no value in Gujarat only some section of media
    reports about them. Modi has never said this -Modi is Gujarat, Gujarat is Modi . This is just one more propoganda to malign him.
    i

    manohar_T Reply:

    1) Good to know that there is ‘only one’ BJP leader in the whole of Gujarat who is honest, rest are all corrupt. (We will not mention the latest CAG report on Gujarat).

    2) Modi kept on saying for years that attack on him (Modi) is attack on ‘asmita’ of five and half crore Gujaratis.

    You wish to interpret it differently, go ahead and enjoy.

    Prosperity and development? Here is a link for a reality check.

    Insecure Central ministers vs uneasy Gujarat babusRajiv Shah

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/true-lies/entry/insecure-central-ministers-vs-uneasy-gujarat-babus

    Amused, I walked out and moved towards Gujarat chief secretary Achal Kumar Joti’s office, just a few yards away. I peeped into the conference room attached to the office – and there he sat, flanked with two of the senior-most state officials, additional chief secretary, finance, MM Shrivastav, and additional chief secretary, planning, Varun Maira, apart from two dozen others. All of them, ready with pen and paper, had gathered just for one thing, to watch the press onference live. Later, I was told that the Gujarat chief secretary, who is the head of the state administration, reached Sachivalaya an hour before the office opened, 9.30 am, only to give instructions to all state secretaries to “organize” a reply to the three ministers by watching them live on the small screen.

    ==

    Be that as it may, it took seven long years for the Modi government to realize that Gujarat had very high malnutrition levels. I remember, it was February 2007. During an internal meeting, a top state bureaucrat, JS Rana, stunned Modi in his three minute presentation. He flashed a map of Gujarat, saying, “Do you see the green in the corner? That is Porbandar. Except this district, malnutrition levels for some strange reason are very high in most of other districts.” The figures he handed over spoke for themselves. Except Porbandar, where it was 35 per cent, malnutrition in most other districts was “around 50 per cent”, he said, adding, “The situation in the tribal areas is worse, followed by other parts.” He commented that Vibrant Gujarat propaganda would have “no meaning” unless one addressed this problem.

    ==

    There was an effort to fight malnutrition by giving soya fortified wheat flour to all below poverty line (BPL) families instead of wheat. Modi inaugurated it as “Swarnim Gift” to the poor in April 2010 by addressing live lakhs of people via video conference, allocated huge funds. What poor began getting was insect-ridden flour, and the plan was finally been put off a few weeks back.

    ==

    What prosperity and development are you taking about under Modi?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    this congressi troll may believe it if you say, Baruah never said, “Indira is India and India is Indira”.

    Modi is Gujarat and Gujarat is Modi is his own brain wave.

  • Anonymous

    One day, Jimmy is walking home from school. When he gets home,
    he finds his grandpa sitting on the Porch without any pants on!

    So he goes up to his grandpa and says “Grandpa, do you realize
    that you’re not wearing any pants?” His grandpa replies “Yes
    Jimmy, I do.”

    Jimmy then says “Well, why are you outside without any pants on
    Grandpa?”

    His grandpa looks at Jimmy and responds “Well Jimmy, yesterday
    I sat outside without a shirt to long, and I got a stiff neck.
    This was your grandma’s idea.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    She should give him viagra with a chamach of chyawanpraash.

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  • Anonymous

    The BJP is confused…its leaders have ego -problems… they make statements contradicting each other …many friends are unhappy with the BJP for these reasons .
    The Congress is a disciplined party..and none of the problems which the BJP faces . But something appears to be going wrong.
    Its in-house Chanakya …Guardian to its Yuvraj ..says Mamta is immature and erratic. The party has to issue a press -release that he is not authorized to speak for the party.
    The official spokesman ..says Mulayam is a BJP agent … the Party has to disown him.
    The Lady who owns and runs the Party and her Son ..aspiring to be a serious politician and more than a TV wonder … at every appraisal after its electoral defeat say that the Party loses because of itself … not the opposition.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    This is the style of Congress functioning. They use these people to say
    whatever they want to and than to maintain good relation with the
    people against whom their own spokes persons have commented they use
    this tactics of disowning the comments.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen Saxenaji, Mohan,

    Digvinash Singh is suffering from RSS-phobia. He has been gagged so many times one has lost count, but nobody, not even the Rajmata, can silence his loose tongue.

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  • Ravi

    CREEPING HINDU-SHARIA IN BANGLAHORE

    Many in this blog need no encouragement to start criticising or even lampooning the tenets of Muslim Sharia, as if its introduction would regress India into a medieval state. This predictably ignores very similar regressive political pressures that are building within our own mainstream society. It is therefore very easy to conclude that opposition to regressive practices of Islam is used as a weapon to attack Islam whilst pushing similar regressive measures of our own.

    Mr. Dhoble, the head of the social service branch of the Mumbai police, has said that he is merely inspecting establishments to see whether they have complied with regulations, which include the rule that they can serve liquor only to those who are at least 25 and have a permit to drink. He has also told reporters that bars and discotheques are places where “immoral activities happen,” that scantily clad girls have to be saved from the forces of modernity because they are “our daughters and daughters-in-law” and that if men returned home early to their wives, it would be very good for society. ……..

    Every Valentine’s Day, thugs roam the streets of Indian cities, beating up couples who are holding hands or kissing, and on occasion forcing them to undergo wedding ceremonies. In the past they have disrupted private parties and beaten up the revelers, and even destroyed gift shops that displayed the red heart.

    The moral outrage of politicians, aspiring politicians and the police, which is not always a form of extortion, is usually aimed at upper-class fun. In 2009, the members of a rightist Hindu outfit called Sri Ram Sene attacked a pub in the southern city of Mangalore and beat up the men and women who were present. As happens in the case of almost all such attacks, the thugs were accompanied by a television news crew. Video of the attack went viral on the Internet.

    “These girls come from all over India, drink, smoke, and walk around in the night spoiling the traditional girls of Mangalore,” Pramod Muthalik, the leader of the group, told a newspaper. “Bars and pubs should be for men only. We wanted to ensure that all women in Mangalore are home by seven.”……… In Bangalore, goons supported by local politicians have beaten up girls for wearing jeans and other alleged Western attire.

    Full article can be found here ….http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/world/asia/21iht-letter21.html?_r=1&ref=asia

    CREEPING LIBERALISM IN SAUDI ARABIA

    In contrast one of world’s most conservative and repressed society is witnessing pressures to liberalise.

    Thus far, the Wahhabi clerical class has complied with the monarchy’s frequent requests to sanction its various measures. However, such compliance has come at a price: the imposition of austere cultural measures that are alienating the growing middle class, which is demanding a relaxation of some of the country’s strict social traditions.

    The irony of the current situation is that the monarchy can still afford to liberalize without losing power. Saudi politics today are no longer a simple contest between violent Islamist extremists and the monarchy. A political center has evolved over the years with a moderate intellectual cohort and an equally moderate religious class coming together in issuing various petitions for greater liberalization of the state.

    Full article can be found here….http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/opinion/tensions-in-the-house-of-saud.html?_r=1&ref=global

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mr Dhoble has been exonerated by the court for any misdemeanour.
    THE TWO GIRLS WERE INDEED PROSTITUE brought in to pep the party. NO WONDER YOU ARE ANGRY
    So are you PLANNING TO SETTLE IN SAUDI ARABIA

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    Anonymous Reply:

    :)
    Waiting for Ravi’s response – sincerely!!

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    Ravi Reply:

    No response necessary…I will let Manu Joseph respond…..the research and the article belongs to him.

    My objective is merely to create a balance against those who repeatedly create the threat of Sharia is coming, Sharia is coming, Sharia is coming.

    Well may be Hindu Sharia is already here, just read this morning’s IHT.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manu Joseph must be living in another country….
    Ravi, you have to get out of this craziness.
    Manu is now a darling of the west. As his fellow keralite Arundhati….
    btw Christians name their children Manu, Arundhati, Gopi, Susheel, Sunil, Sandhya, Gang, Ajith, Ashok, vikram…..I am yet to see a Ashok Abdullah, or a Sunil Ibrahim, or a Sandhya muhamed….

    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    As I was commuting by train this morning. I predicted your response and you have not dis-appointed. No mentions of the points made, lets attack the author and discredit him…Shvaet Lingham, Darling of the west, Jewess, Not Eminent Professor, have all been previously used by you.

    I am sure you are aware as to what kind of names Christians adopt in Muslim majority countries and for that matter some Hindu’s do in Christian Majority countries.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi
    Let me put it very clearly – let us say there are three choices – India democracy as it is now, an India under RSS, and an India under Muslim rule aka pakistan, Saudi or even the Moguls – I will take the first two.

    Ravi Reply:

    I will take only the first.

    I do not distinguish between 2 and 3. Both are Religious Theocracies to be avoided at all cost.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    you have correctly diagnosed about the ailment this fake Ravi is suffering from. He is plain crazy, filled with hatred for Hindus, because all the old dogmas are crumbling, all the inhibiting walls are getting dismantled and the Indian society as a whole is fully participating in the growth of the nation.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Writing about Dhoble and Muthalik’s story to reach an “already arrived at conclusion” is research??
    By the way, what is so troubling is this morning’s IHT or is it the HT you are talking about?

    Ravi Reply:

    I do not understand a word of what you are saying.

    If the comment about research is about Manu Joseph’s article then ask him. Believe him or not up to you.

    IHT is International Harold Tribune – the international version of New York Times, of which Manu Joseph is a columnist.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    this fake will not speak for an hour or two, because he is so happy, he is beside himself at the creeping liberalisation NY times saw when in the stupor caused by illicit liquor.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi
    Why dont you bring something worthwhile to the equation other than your constant use of magnifying glass

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    Ravi Reply:

    I am waiting for you to lead rather than knee jerk in unison with Hindu Right as you almost always do.

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  • Anonymous

    ‘Sri Ram Sene ready to riot for money’

    Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/‘Sri+Ram+Sene+ready+to+riot+for+money’+/1/97235.html

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    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan
    So who do you think paid him to beat up Indian Girls in Bangalore Pubs.!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I don’t care who paid them. May be this was their way of promoting themselves.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Is that so!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Agian I don’t care about this party as they are not important.
    Only you give them importance by bringing thm up regularly
    even after showing you the evidence that they will work for
    anyone for money.

    Ravi Reply:

    Well Manu Joseph did. I just repeated it.

    Thelka aslo exposed other Hindu Right organizations who will riot for political objectives, your best buddy phoo phooed Thelka as a discredited organisation.

    In the same way here the Hindu Right gives the threat of Sharia vastly greater importance than Muslims themselves do.

    We just ignore Hindu Sharia

    Anonymous Reply:

    Tehelka is indeed a discredited rag funded by the congress party and it indulges in the yellowest kind of journalism at the behest of the funding party.

    I have already proved the connections this yellow rag has to the party.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Fake Ravi,

    your memory is failing you.

    It is neither Bangalore, nor pubs.

    It is Mangalore and one pub on a day two years ago.

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  • Anonymous

    Shiv Sena & others not to disturb couples on Valentine’s Day

    http://news.oneindia.in/2012/02/13/shiv-sena-others-not-to-disturb-couples-valentines-day.html

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  • Anonymous

    you just need to go out at 1 am in the morning in Baroda to see and experience
    the huge number of women and men walking on the roads, free from any threat,
    real or imagined. That state, when you know that the chances of your being
    assaulted at that time are close to zero, is to my mind the epitome of security,
    the first dharma of governance.

    Manik Chowk is an area in Ahemedabad where you will find young college
    students boys and girls at 2AM and no one bothering them.

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  • Anonymous

    In Saudi five times a day during Namaz all shops are supposed to closed.
    Even a customer being served at that time has to leave the premises. Any one violating will be severely punished.

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  • Anonymous

    Fire at forth floor secretariat in Mumbai where Adarsh files are kept.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Isnt that curious???

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  • vijay !

    @ MOhan

    Let us welcome the BJP but let us remind them it has to be without moral police.

    The moral police in Mumbai is of course due to the Congress.

    The BJP should keep 3 leaders in front . Jaitley, Modi and Sushma. Depending on the ground situation and acceptability by allies, they should make one the PM.

    Frankly after seeing Jagan’s scale of loot, I think he has left Gaddaffi behind. It was all okay till YSR was the Congress face. The truth only came out because of the rift.

    Imagina the Congress CM just gave 1.41 lakhs acres to his son… !! what a crook… what a crook … a real typical COngressi….

    1,41,000 acres by the way is about 5 cities of the size of Chandigarh!!

    Wah COngress wah !! Kya baap hai…

    Like Mumbai was given as dowr in the British queens marriage, COngress dynasites gift India to thier sons !!!

    Wah Wah !! What a party !!!

    DynaStic Succesion zindabad !!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I support Modi and he is part of BJP, but somehow this party should learn to take advantage of the situation. Congress is down and reeling under accusations of many corruptions cases and BJP is fighting within
    to nominate their President and PM candidate.

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  • Anonymous

    Dr Shantanu/Ishwar

    Dr Shantanu, looks like u had a good time in Milan. Your comment on only few people atr the lake — I read about the negative population growth in italy; men and women deciding not to get married and not to have children; grown up boys/men living with parents (they had a term for that) etc.. Pretty soon men and women from Asia will have to be imported to keep italy going.

    I agree with Ishwar on population as resource. Indias entry and success in certain sectors over the last 15 years (which has made India grow big time) would not have been possible without the population advantage. The key is , a sIshwar stated to educate and develop skills. The key is as Mohan’s link “”why nations fail” indicated to keep govrernment out of many activities, especially production, education, development etc.

    What if Indias middle class is quadrupuled to 800MM – a market four times US, 5 or 6 times Europe..Indian entrepreneurship can achieve it, if government and politicians are kept out; gain I recommend all to read Mohans link to “why nations fail”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi ji,
    I have read the article shared by Mohan on “why nation fails”. I agree with the author but the solution is not easy and nowhere round the corner.
    I would post my views on the population issue in a bit.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mao Tse Tung of China used to proudly proclaim that the huge
    population of their country is their asset.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Any resource when employed in gainful activity is an asset. Otherwise it is a liability.

    Take your pick.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Huge population is good? do not know. This question is bothering me since long. If we can bring them at par with global standard, then, yes. If not, then they are liability. Close all madarsas, including, AMU. and pakistani madarsas. Improve, Central school type of education, give free hand to DPS like institutions and then population is an asset. Open license to procreate has to be curbed, somehow, somewhere. Khud bheek mange aur aulad paida karke unse bheek mangawayen. Ya, political parties ke vote bank ban jayen.

    Anonymous Reply:

    well, that way he could kill many

  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    The enigma of Indian engineering

    James Trevelyan

    The author is Winthrop Professor in the school of Mechanical and Chemical Engineering at the University of Western Australia. His book How to Become an Expert Engineer is due to be published later this year.

    A narrow education is making engineers oblivious to the importance of human interaction and raising the cost of even simple tasks

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article3547601.ece?homepage=true

    ==

    Energy also costs many times more. With intermittent supplies, one needs a UPS or generator to run electrical equipment reliably. In addition, electric machines are usually inefficient and poorly maintained so it can be four-five times as expensive to achieve the same results as in Australia. Bulk users like steel plants have reported to me that they face twice the electric energy cost of their competitors in industrialised countries.

    How could South Asian electricity and water services be so expensive and phones so cheap?

    Could corruption explain this? Reliable sources estimate the additional cost at 15-25 per cent. However Australia is not immune: dishonest behaviour imposes significant extra costs there as well.

    ==

    In Australia, a copious water supply and sanitation takes around 2 per cent of the economic resources of a family. In South Asia, barely enough potable water to survive can take 20-40 per cent of a family’s economic resources. Effective engineering in Australia accounts for much of the difference.

    Therefore, it is not the lack of money that influences national poverty as ineffective engineering that imposes crippling high costs for water, energy and other essential services. Good engineering liberates human effort for social developments such as governance, healthcare, education, social services and even recreation.

    ==

    The mobile phone revolution has transformed expensive, corrupt, inefficient government monopolies with appalling service into thriving, profitable enterprises providing high quality service at minimal cost, around the world. India is no exception.

    Although we can’t be sure, there seem to be some key human factors. First, mobile technology increases investor confidence: people can’t steal the service without paying. The phone won’t work without a pre-paid card or reliable credit. Second, the technology provides reliable and efficient ways to collect a vast number of small payments and reassures users that their credit will be secure. Third, the social chasms between engineers and the technicians who work with the equipment are easier to surmount than in the case of water and electricity. Fourth, the saving in time, measured as an economic value, more than makes up for the cost for users.

    Success has come from human factors invisible to most engineers, inadvertently blinded by their education.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Interesting article.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When government gets out of electricity boards, roAD CONSTRUCTION, manufacturing etc you cN EXPECT ENGINEERING TO BE BETTERirr

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Lights out

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/lights-out/964594/0

    The aborted attempt by the Uttar Pradesh government to switch off electricity to heavy consumers like malls after 7 pm is a reminder of the gathering crisis in the power sector, but more than that, of the fact that states are still in the dark. In 10 years, from 2000 to 2010, the UP state regulator has revised electricity tariffs only once. As a result, by the end of fiscal year 2010, the aggregate losses of all state utilities, including UP, have risen to Rs 1,23,000 crore. The borrowing of the distribution companies from the banking sector to finance this loss has approximately doubled, according to Crisil figures, to Rs 2,67,000 crore.

    ==

    The scale of crisis is enough to pull the balance sheets of several banks into trouble. As banks have baulked at providing fresh loans, the companies have reached the end of their capacity to buy additional electricity to feed their grid. So even though year 2011-12 has ended with a capacity addition of 20,000 MW, the power cannot be sold to bankrupt discoms. Instead of taking steps to correct this mismatch by fixing the tariff regime, UP seemed to be planning to handle the power shortage by reaching out for sledgehammer rules to conserve power.

    ==

    Studies show that as industrial consumers get used to low tariffs they skimp on improvement in the quality of their electrical machinery and end up losing on electrical efficiency. The correct remedy for power shortage is to ensure that the so-called independent regulators actually act independently and raise tariffs in keeping with the rise in costs — a saving grace here is the Central Electricity Regulatory Commission’s directive mandating that each state regulator examine costs and give a power tariff ruling each year.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Vote for Baba Ramdev. He will be a PM who can help you make your ends meet.

    ..

    ..

    ..

    ..

    Your head and toe

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Definitely!

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  • Dr Mishra

    Big hello to all my friends here-
    Gopi- still going strong , Mohan, Balwinder praaji, Parvez from my hometown, Shoeb from downtown (south India haha), Manohar- great articles below, ?Rizwaan- anyone see him now?, Shenoy- still slamming Ravi?, Vijay the party animal, Ishwar, Rajiiiv the Pak specialist, Ashish the eloquent bong-
    I sometimes cast a lazy eye over you all. How is everybody?
    I see the same old moronic junk from Ravi- although Shan cingulate slamming him again after a 6 month period of bizarre buddiness – is new.
    so ravi says hindu taleban is attacking Valentine day couples. Ravi you total jerk- when Hindus blow up 5000 girl schools and massacre shias and ahmadiyas- then use the words hindu sharia or taleban. how on earth do my friends above let you get away with spouting nonsensical comparisons like that, is beyond me.
    ONLY BALWINDER PRAAJI AND SHENOY WORKING IN TANDEM, not alone, COULD HAMMER THIS TROLL

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    Dr Mishra Reply:

    FORGOT- GREETINGS TO pRAVEEN sAXENA, AND dRS pANKAJ and Shah Alam

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks Dr. Mishra;
    Almost missed a heart beat. You forgot me???
    Ha ha.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thank You Dr Mishra… and welcome back to the blog.

    Ravi Reply:

    ONLY BALWINDER PRAAJI AND SHENOY WORKING IN TANDEM, not alone COULD HAMMER THIS TROLL

    Unable to provide any argument against the points I raise, other than spouting same old and tired Islamophobic shite, Dr Mishra are you by any chance advocating mob attack against me??

    Bring it on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr.Mishra,

    a warm welcome to you. Nice to read your post after a long absence.

    All the old faithfuls are active, off and on. I even sighted your old buddy Dr.Shah Alam on Barkha Dutt’s “We, the people” on last Sunday.

    We are also happy at Vinoo’s re-entry and amused at fake Ravi’s fading charm with which he still spews venom against Hindus.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr. Mishra,

    Welcome back. Ashish had once said about Ravi that even if there is no
    sign of RSS he will invent one. According to Ravi problems in Kashmir
    are because of RSS.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Kashmir problems pre-date the formation of RSS. Emphasis added.

    But the RSS is putting its oar in there on behalf of the Hinduatva brigade. Its interference is neither peaceful nor solution oriented. The actual role of the RSS in Kashmir started in 1953, when it actively supported the agitation launched by the Hindus of Jammu under the banner of a political party Praja Parishad against the special status of Kashmir under Article 370 of the constitution. In fact Praja Parishad was formed in November 1947 itself in Jammu by a group of RSS Swayamsevakas under the leadership of Prem Nath Dogra, the then Sanghchalak of Jammu to oppose the alleged partisan attitude of Sk. Abdullah towards the Hindu dominated Jammu region.

    Ashish is a friend he can say what he likes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    As I said yesterday, ytour memory is ill-serving you.
    Your hatred for the Hindus is overlapping your addled brain.

    The RSS was founded in 1928, the Kashmir problem was created by your adopted country in 1947-48.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish indeed is a friend and I don’t consider you or any one else on this blog my enemy. Yes, I strongly differ with
    your views on Hindus/Hinduvta, RSS.

    Ravi Reply:

    You may not have enemies but that does not mean that I do not.

    Once again you are combining Hindus with Hinduatvadis as if they mean the same. Let me assure you they do not. Just as Muslims and Islamists does not mean the same.

    I am convinced that there is probably little or no difference between our views on Hinduism.

    However, we are poles apart as far as our views on Hinduatvadi’s is concerned.

  • Anonymous

    MohanR,Pankaj, gopi, et al. Guys thanks for you interest in my post relating to my trip to Milano.there is so much to write ,it has to be in instalments.
    gopi, POPULATION EXPLOSION IN THE GREATEST IMPEDIMENT TO PROSPERITY.no ifs and buts.Italy used to be bloody poor post WW2.
    admitted american marshal plan did help.however coming back to Milano.
    First some interesting facts about the LAST SUPPER painting by Leonardo Da Vinci.Leonardo did not use the usual fresco painting technique, because he painted it over a period of two years. with fresco painting it needs to done very quickly while the plaster is wet.He was searching for a face to represent judas .He used to visit the prisons in milan.he had made sketches of ugly men .
    One day the bishop asked him why the picture of judas was drawn yet.
    Leonardo replied “I amlooking for a person whose face will fit , IF I CANNOT FIND ANYBODY I WILL DRAW YOU”.because leonardo used water colour it had detoriated within two years .then when Napolean’s troop occupied that
    PLACE THEY USED IT FOR TARGET PRACTICE.however it survived the bombing of ww2 , AND IS NOW A UNESCO WORLD HERITAGE SIGHT.
    The Milan Central train station in THE BIGGEST AND GRANDEST TRAIN STATION IN THE WORLD.i have seen Grand central in Newyork , which appears puny. This is really huuuuuuuuge.this was a megalomaniac project of Musolini. just opposite the station i found a guy from delhi in a kiosk selling bus tickets. There are LOADS of Bangladeshi.I didn’t even bother to ask their nationality , i straight way spoke in bengali when asking for direction.
    On a sunday the area near milan central near the pirelli building is absolutely
    empty.IMAGINE THIS IN ANY INDIAN CITY.
    Entire MILAN architecture is very 1800

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Contd; the transport system is very very very good and very cheap , if you buy three day ticket. The roads are fantastically well laid , then again ROMANS INVENTED THE CONCEPT OF CITY PLANNING. There is a shopping arcade called Plaza Vittoria emanuelle, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY ON A SUPER GRAND SCALE, I haven’t seen anything like it in UK , Newyork , Chicago , germany , switzerland.
    italians are very laid back , the police will be seen leaning on a wall , though they carrt a loaded gun.it was quite hot 34C
    People were VERY VERY VERY helpful , i did not detect an iota of prejudice .Next instalment will be on the ART.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks Shan;
    I plan to tour Europe mainly for its art and museums. three great museums of world-British, French and russian. let us see, when I can fullfill my wish.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Shan

    Your claim about Milan Rail Station is incorrect. Whether it is the grandest is a matter for the beholder to decide.

    Here are some facts and figures

    Milan (24 stations, 66,500 square metres. BTW: Rome Station has 29 platforms. Leipzig (Germany – 24 platforms and 83,460 sq. m.) . New York Grand Central and Gare du Nord, in Paris have 44 platforms each.

    Read on

    Largest, busiest and highest stations

    Nagoya Station in Japan is the world’s tallest railway station building.

    The Gare du Nord in France is Europe’s busiest station.

    Clapham Junction, in South London, United Kingdom, is the busiest station in terms of rail traffic with an average of one train every 13 seconds at peak times.

    Worldwide

    Tanggula Railway Station located in Amdo County, Tibet Autonomous Region is currently the highest train station in the world. India’s proposed Bilaspur-Mandi-Leh Railway, once completed, will reach an even higher elevation.

    The world’s busiest passenger station, in terms of daily passenger throughput, is Shinjuku Station in Tokyo. The station was used by an average of 3.64 million people per day in 2007.

    As of 2006, the world’s largest station was Beijing West station in Beijing.But today, many new stations are larger than Beijing West; Beijing South, Guangzhou South, Nanjing South, Shanghai Hongqiao and Xi’an North all also claim to be Asia’s largest.

    In terms of platform capacity, the world’s largest station by platforms is Grand Central Terminal in New York City with 44 platforms and, as part of the East Side Access Project, the MTA will be adding 4 more platforms to accommodate future Long Island Rail Road trains.

    Europe

    Busiest

    The Gare du Nord, in Paris, is Europe’s busiest railway station by total passenger numbers.

    Clapham Junction, in south London, is Europe’s busiest railway station by daily rail traffic (one train every 13 seconds at peak times; one train every 30 seconds at off-peak times).

    Zurich Hauptbahnhof, Switzerland, is Europe’s busiest railway terminus by daily rail traffic (Clapham Junction is a through station).

    Largest

    Leipzig Hauptbahnhof in Germany is Europe’s largest railway station by floor area (24 platforms and several levels of shopping facilities beneath).

    Berlin Hauptbahnhof is Europe’s largest grade-separated and two-level station (6 upper and 8 lower platforms).

    The Gare du Nord, in Paris, is Europe’s largest railway station by number of platforms (44 – two not in service).

    North America

    Penn Station in New York City is the busiest station in North America.

    Toronto’s Union Station is the busiest station in Canada.

    Other records

    Coney Island – Stillwell Avenue in New York City is the world’s largest elevated terminal[citation needed] with 8 tracks and 4 island platforms.

    The Shanghai South Railway Station, opened in June 2006, has the world’s largest circular transparent roof.

    Châtelet-Les Halles, in the centre of Paris, is the busiest underground railway station in the world.[citation needed] Approximately 750,000 passengers pass through it per day.

    The New Delhi Railway Station in New Delhi, India holds the record for the largest route interlock system in the world.

    The Jakarta Kota Station in Jakarta, Indonesia biggest station in southeast asia with 12 platforms and all-functional.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have commuted through Clapham junction , I have boarded train in Berlin Baunhof, i have boarded train in newyork grand central.
    I am not talking about number of platform or train traffic I AM TALKING ABOUT THE PHYSICAL BRICK AND MORTAR STATION.
    This is GRAND AND MASSIVE, you do not have to take my word just google image Milan central station

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    manohar_T Reply:

    This is GRAND AND MASSIVE, you do not have to take my word just google image Milan central station

    I did before posting my response – Milan is just one of the grand stations of the world.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Would you care to inform me any other that compares to it. If your answer is clapham junction , then my inference will be that you see david dhawan and satyajit ray in the same genre , just film directors.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Please check the figures I mentioned above and take the trouble of using Google yourself or choose not to, either way it is your problem.

    If after that you still wish to believe that Milan Rail Station is the greatest, biggest, largest, grandest, blahest, blahest, blahest, I do not give a hoot. All I did was to give you some facts and figures – take them or leave them – then again it is your problem – not mine.

    Perhaps, you cannot distinguish between David Dhawan’s caper and Ray’s classic, and this too is your problem, not mine.

    Anonymous Reply:

    art and architecture is not measured by numbers nor can it be ever possible.perhaps you use the yardstick of numbers in box office returns in films , which does say a lot about your grasp of matters in art and architecture

    manohar_T Reply:

    Now you are changing the goal post.

    You started with a ‘claim’ it is the biggest station (which surely includes numbers as yardsticks) in the world. After you were caught with your pants down, you start talking about art and architecture (where number do not matter).

    As for art and architecture, I repeat it is left to the beholder to decide whether a monument is great or trash or just ordinary. No one is obliged to agree with others and that includes you.

    You are entitled to your views about me, art & architecture. It does not bother me.

    However, you have passed a ‘judgment’ about my grasp of matters art and architecture, without I ever expressing any opinion / view here on the blog on any architectural structure or any work of art, clearly shows that you have lost the argument.

    Anonymous Reply:

    In Rome just outside Vatican I also saw many Bangladeshis selling ice creams, juice, hot dogs. You have to be very careful about the pick pockets, my partner’s pocket was picked as he was about to board a bus. Lost about Euro 6000/- . We were total eight members of two families together but no one noticed anything till the bus started moving.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In my last visit to rome, florence and venice , that was a deacde ago , I did see lot of gypsy children in Rome. But Milan looked different. Yes Pick pocket is real possibility in Rome. Remember all the refugees from North africa, their first port of call in Sicilian coast.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shan;
    I believe, Milan is an Industrial city. famous for its football team, Auto industryy, Fiat and ferrari etc.
    History and art are present in Florence, Rome, Venice and Naples, etc. Your view?, as would like to finish, as much as possible in shortest time.

  • Anonymous

    Milano had a very distinguished visitor, Dr.Shan
    The city bowled him over, never made him pareshan

    He was struck by the city’s sparse population
    As an Indian, he well knows reckless copulation
    among the people is the the only reason why
    India is poor. To accept it, no need to feel shy.

    The tragedy is, the older generations didn’t care,
    And the younger generation has no time to spare.

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  • Anonymous

    Bikini is a dress where 90% of the woman’s body is exposed, but look at
    the men’s decency they still stare at the covered 10%

    Good morning friends.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Even while they stare at the 10% of the woman’s covered anatomy, their minds are busy with the delicious thoughts of what lies behind the 10% cover!

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Four letter principle is India’s big green victory at Rio

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/Americas/4-word-principle-India-s-big-green-victory-at-Rio/Article1-876692.aspx

    New Delhi sees its greatest success at the Rio + 20 summit to be the embedding of an obscure four-word principle throughout the final outcome document. This principle, “common but differentiated responsibilities,” (CBDR) say Indian officials, will be the country’s principal negotiating weapon in the years to come.

    CBDR, in effect, is an escape clause for poor countries in any multilateral green negotiations. Its origins lie in the 1992 Rio Declaration and were added to the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, the first climate change agreement. CBDR basically says that developing countries cannot be expected to fulfill the same environmental obligations of rich countries.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Talking heads

    Does a parliamentary standing committee need Aamir Khan’s ‘expert’ intervention?

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/talking-heads/965074/0

    Excerpts

    After his TV show Satyamev Jayate examined distortions in healthcare, Aamir Khan’s opinion has been solicited by none less than the parliamentary standing committee on commerce. By “consulting” Khan on the question of FDI in pharmaceuticals, the panel has made expert deliberation seem like a silly gimmick. Healthcare was merely the brow-furrowing concern of the week for Satyamev Jayate, and as with any show that flits from one subject to another, its mastery of the problem was less than perfect. While the use of affordable generic drugs may seem a no-brainer, it is a risky choice in the absence of solid regulation. Many doctors prescribe known, reputed drugs because they are assured of quality, not because they are sellouts to Big Pharma. The answer, clearly, lies in empowering the drug regulator, so that there are no questions about quality — and then letting big-name companies compete with generics, which will automatically drive down prices.

    ==

    Like a lot of good TV, Khan’s show drills down complex questions to their emotional core. It also has a grand, if occasionally garbled sense of mission — Satyamev Jayate even congratulated itself on Lok Sabha passing a sharp bill on the sexual abuse of children, as though the law was enacted in a burst of understanding brought on by the show, rather than being the product of long deliberation, whose timing was entirely coincidental. Now, the standing committee has strengthened that saviour complex.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    My feeling is that Mr Khan is consulted for two reasons.

    1. He has now become a very visible symbol of “Aam Admi” consultation. In otherwords the consultative committes are not all jam packed with self serving interests.

    2. It is easy for such committes to loose touch with basic common sense, and Mr Khan is amply qualified to provide that.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    I agree with the editorial that the standing committee has erred.

    I do not know whose (some political party) idea was it? May be the party is planning to get him into politics to campaign and even stand for elections.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    When the race is over, Sangma gets BJP support

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article3554115.ece?homepage=true

    The Presidential ‘race’ is over for all practical purposes even before it has begun. Barring an unforeseeable situation, UPA nominee and Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee will be sworn in as the First Citizen on July 25.

    ==

    For the BJP, the last-minute decision has come at a cost. Its inability to forge consensus within the NDA, after the Janata Dal (United) and the Shiv Sena refused to toe the line, would haunt the party for at least a few weeks. Senior BJP leaders Sushma Swaraj and Arun Jaitley were at pains to emphasise that the division within the NDA would have no bearing on the alliance as such.

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  • vijay !

    @ Dr Mishra

    Thx for remembering me…

    Well… I am sort of busy in buidlings but do make it a point to punch in a few lines while on the move or when time permits…

    Hope u do go underwater these days!

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  • Anonymous

    Aid awareness slogan.

    Try different positions with same woman instead of trying same position
    with different women.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    69,96,69,96

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    Anonymous Reply:

    OR 0

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    vijay ! Reply:

    0 is god’s orders… 69 is entertainment…

  • Anonymous

    Mishraji thanks for email. Nice to see same ole badmaash crowd at Glassy junction hehe
    Shenoy saab- you are what is called ‘growing old disgracefully’ hehe keep it up

    but sorry Mishraji I have no appetite to take on Ravi again. Shenoy and riswan and I had lot of fun setting his tail on fire, but then HE SEEMED TO ENJOY IT EVEN MORE!! bolo main zhoot boliyan ?
    so Ravi you are safe- allatime you speak garbage like when you said total nonsense about school fees in UK- mainu sab pata hai- I did not challenge you.

    hello my dear Dr shan of cingulate, you got tripped by Manohar on rly stations but never mind, you sound different now- got married did you ? will wonders never seize
    vijay, mohan, gopiji- sab lage raho munna bhai

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Balle balle… !

    Nachdi di gut khul gayegi….!!

    Nice to c u here…

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    Ravi Reply:

    What nonesense about school fees?? ਤੇਨੁ ਕਾਖ ਵੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਪਤਾ

    My children went to local Comprehensive Schools – which have no tution fees what so ever. What would be the reason for me to lie about school fees at all.

    Let us have another row. I am game. I still have my original compositions about you, they could do with another airing. I can take on you and any other फरूखाबादी infantrymen or Donkey Mounted Cavalry you may wish to bring with you.

    Your master – लंगोट wearing मिश्री की डली – reads only such posts that support his Fascist POV, those that register a loud थ्पर्ड and leave a तिलक mark on the face of शिन शिनाकी बब्बला बू he completely ignores.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Ravi

    This time the jehadi lectures from Chacha Hafeez have turned u nuts… !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He never stops twirling his walrus mustaches.
    In frustration!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Balwinderji,

    Thanks for remembering. This is for you.

    A cruise ship carrying people from all the nations was going on a ’round the world’ tour when it got grounded. The ship became slow and finally came to a grinding halt. The Captain of the ship called an emergency meeting and told the passengers, ‘Friends, we are in trouble. The Gods are angry with us. We need to give a sacrifice and I need Three people to sacrifice their lives so that rest of us can be saved.’

    All of them moved towards the Deck where a Japanese came forward and shouted, ‘Long live Japan,’ and jumped into the Sea. Then an Israeli Jew stepped forward and said, ‘Hallelujah’ and dived into the sea. After that no one came forward for few seconds while people stared at each other.
    Suddenly out of nowhere a Sardarji came forward near the railing and chanted, ‘Jo bole-so-nihal, sat sri akaal, wahe  Guruji da khalsa, wahe guruji di fateh, Jai maa Kali, Jai maa Durga, Jai Hanuman, Jai Sri Ram, Jai siva-sankar, Jai baba nanak di, Jai jawan jai kissan,’ and finally yelled at the top of his voice, ‘Bharat mata ki jai,’ and kicked the Pakistani standing next to him in the sea.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    FOR ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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    vijay ! Reply:

    No wonder Ravi is all at sea now !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Balwinderji,

    Sat Sri Akaal. Most welcome back to the blog.

    Ab jaane ki zidd na karo, Saabji.

    You know, this fake Ravi has no guts. He is capable of only empty bravado.

    Recently he was in Bangalore, but didn’t dare to visit me, but like a thief in some mystery novels, he used to send bus tickets, liquor slips, bottle corks etc by courier!

    Very, very funny and childish too.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Balwinder

    There you are you now have an invitation to form a जुगाल्बन्धी of a ਚੱਲਾ ਸਿਖ and a शिन शिनाकी बब्बला बू.

    Let the battle begin. Do your worst mate.

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  • vijay !

    ~~~ Where is Baby G these days??? ~~~
    ==================================

    Have not seen the Amul milk dabba carrying Baby G for some time now.

    Even his cheerleaders in the media are strangely silent.

    Has he changed and become more sensible?

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  • Ravi

    Mohan

    Some months ago I wrote a similar joke to yours:

    An American, a French Man, an English Man and an Indian were on the deck of a cruise ship.

    As they were enjoying their banter, the American excused himself and went to his cabin. When he returned he brought with him a case of cigars. He lit one and then chucked the nearly full case over board. Everyone looked at him bemused. The American said, Oh don’t worry …

    There is plenty more back-home.

    Watching this the French man felt that he needed to do something similar. So he brings out his case of Champagne, he opens one bottle, has a swig and throws the entire case into the sea, saying….

    There is plenty more back home.

    This put some pressure on the English man. What shall I do?? He thought to himself. Then quick as a flash he lifts the Indian and throws him into the sea.

    With a smile on his face has says “There plenty of those back home”.

    Your best buddy had an Autistic Fit…the rest I am sure you are a witness to.

    Ever since, both the Raja and his Rani have been bobbing up and down in deep waters.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Your stale jokes don’t even elicit yawns.
    Mohan’s was original.

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  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————
    ~~~~ Illiterate si BB al gets kick on the face from IIT’s ~~~~
    ————————————————————————————————-

    Like much of UPA and its initiatives, which only mess up things, siBBal has failed again.

    a) It was obvious to all that school board exams vary from state to state so they cannot be equated. In an enterace as tough as IIT where 0.001 % marks make a difference only a UPA type dumbo would try try to call the marking pattern from Kashmir to Kerala to Delhi as same.

    b) The IIT exams are cruel, tough and even heartless. Having given them and knowing that to judge yourself in life based on those entry tests wold be ruining your self esteem. A friend of mine did not qualify… but is now the a piano player in the US and a pretty famous one at that.

    However it is possible that many students who do otherwise well in other colleges and even in engineering would just about get 15-20% in the IIT exam. This would just hurt them and kill their self esteem forever at age 17.

    SO TO HAVE A SINGLE EXAM for IIt and other colleges without taking all this onto consideration… is just foolish, stupid, and bound to hurt our education system forever.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    IITs are world renowned institutions.. UPA should not be let to destroy them

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Sadly like bulls in a CHIna shop…
    this will be another UPA loss…

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    NitinGupta Reply:

    Before commenting , read :

    Score 1, 3 or 4 marks and join IIT!

    http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VE9JTS8yMDA4LzAzLzE3I0FyMDAxMDE=&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom
    -

    Explain JEE cut-offs, CIC warns IIT

    http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/2440-explain-jee-cut-offs-cic-warns-iit.html

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Nitin

    Gopi and some others are showing their displeasure only because the process towards single entrance test has been initiated by the UPA government – its merits and demerits be damned. If the same had been proposed by Modi, it would have been hailed as the ‘greatest’ reform ever in the history of India.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I will say no even if Mod proposes…. In fact, i know for sure Modi will not propsoe it, for there are much larger priorities facing india and not these monkey divide and rule issues

    manohar_T Reply:

    I was just giving my analysis about the thought process. In the books of Hinduvawadis, Modi can never do any wrong. Nothing more or nothing less.

    NitinGupta Reply:

    May be the Department of Industry should work over time and the education ministry take a break.

    They should not waste national resources by working simultaneously.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Nitin

    I do not get it. Would you elaborate on the role of Department of Industry?

    manohar_T Reply:

    You got it wrong, mate. The GOI is trying to have one uniform examination – how does that become a divide and rule issue?

    NitinGupta Reply:

    Tell him Gujrat has already accepted the single examination system.

    manohar_T Reply:

    You said it.

    According to their mindsets, if Gujarat under Modi has accepted it, then there must be the greatest virtue ever in holding one single entrance test, otherwise …..

    manohar_T Reply:

    Thanks for the links.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    I think si-BB-al wants to destroy IIT system because he is angry at the fate meted out to his friend, Sanjeev Bhatt, an IIT MTech.

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    NitinGupta Reply:

    A silly comment on a serious issue.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Nitin

    There is no doubt, silly people always make silly (or sillier) comments – devoid of any logic, reasoning and relevance.

    Anonymous Reply:

    A silly comment because it is made against si-BB-al, who according to you is prime ministerial material.

    But, look how silly this PM-in-the-making looks with his fancy ideas and unable to convince even a clerk in the IITs.

    After his 1.76lakh crores no loss gaffe, this takes the cake for being silliest.

    NitinGupta Reply:

    IIT’s loved to operate under shrouded secrecy applying their own non-standard methods for deciding cut off marks.

    People have scored as little as 5,4,3 and 2 in a subject and got admission into IIT.

    Once RTI became operative, IIT’s found it difficult explain their methods for deciding cut-off marks. In 2006, RTI revealed the sorry state of IIT JEE. Even after one years IIT’s could not explain the method to the court.

    When there is a single exam system, IIT’s have to openly pre-declare their method for deciding the cut-off mark, which in turn will be embedded in a computer programme for sorting and declaring the result. This will take away the subjectivity from the result declaration process.

    When you guys talk about IIT’s, try to understand the problem rather than slamming Sibal for his attempt to streamline the process.

    IIT’s play more politics to protect their turf ( subjectivity ) than real politicians.

    IIT’s live from one exam to another. They do not have enough Question item bank for creating an online test. Since 2009, they have been resisting online test because they had to create the item bank.

    IIM took a hard and unpleasnat decision and it has moved on.

    The real issue is shortage of Question bank ( which they could have prepared on last 4 years ), not School system/marks.

    Sibal has already offered a solution that top 20% of every board can be eligible for IIT selection through a special test conducted by IIT.

    You trying to comment on an issue that you have very little understanding. Then there are one or two more guys clap to cheer you up for nothing.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    “You trying to comment on an issue that you have very little
    understanding. Then there are one or two more guys clap to cheer you up for nothing”.

    You could not have put it better.

    Plus he and the guys are oblivious to the problems faced by the applicants – appearing for one exam after another, in many cases traveling to different states and cities to do so, thus incurring heavy expenditure.

    The name of the game here is to oppose and slam, because it is seen as a UPA initiative and not of GOI.

    BTW, the process for one single exams for MBA is already underway. For 2013, other than CAT (for IIMs and some others), states have done away with their own CETs and making CMAT conducted by the AICTE as the criteria – applicable all over the country. Of course, some of the autonomous colleges and private universities (just a handful of them) have their own entrance test. In few years time, there will be a single test for all institutes and colleges.

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  • Anonymous

    Manohar
    Is there anything wrong in parlaimentary committees seeking advice/opinion from Amir khan or anybody else/

    In fact wouldnt this country be better off without nonsensical parliamentary committees who are bent on stealing and nothing else

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    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    Your disappointment with Indian Democracy is now legendary and you have personally been an Avant garde to a pro authoritarian dictatorship movement. Based in BangLahore.

    You also believe that Indian Science is vastly superior to that practiced by western nations.

    What you may not know is that a very secret science project is about to be made public in a very dramatic way. A very capable Dictator – genetically reconstructed and cryogenically resurrected by Indian advance science – will be revealed to the country on the 25th of July. This event is so secret that a phoney event has been organised to camouflage the real big event.

    A number of candidates have been revived from their long slumbers and all that remains is a decision on who will best serve the country as the First Indian Dictator.

    Perhaps you can help choose from the following…

    1. Shivaji Mahan (He has been purified of bad Muslim blood)

    2. Ekluvya (one of the original Indians, he showed that he was better than upstart immigrants. First ever Distance Learner)

    3. Gurudev Golimarkar (well not quite, he did not pull the trigger, but he was brave and a proven patriot – to some at least)

    4. Subhash Chandra Bose (not much needed to be done, he has been living under the pseudonym of Boman Irani)

    5. L. K. Advani (he deserves it, don’t quite know why, but he deserves it)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi is disappointed with Indian democracy.
    You are appointed by the ****-jihadicracy to damage Indian democracy.
    You are advised to make your walrus mustache more pointed by some more twirling.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi
    As I mentioned before, I, as a minority Christian in my beloved India will choose these choices before a Saudi India, or a Pakistani India or a Moighul ndia.

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    Ravi Reply:

    That is no hlep.
    I asked if you would choose ONE and not all.
    There are some I would never ever choose.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, I am sure in India we wont end up to a situation where these are the only choices. But to satisfy you, here is my order of preference – Advani, Golamrkar, Shivaji, Bose.. Eklavya is a mythological character .

    Ravi Reply:

    I hope you are not trying to Blaspheme. Eklavya must be REAL for Others from Mahabharata to be REAL.

    You are welcome to the first two. I will not give them a moments peace if I had my way

    manohar_T Reply:

    Gopi

    The parliamentary committees can seek anyone’s (Indians or foreigners) advice, views and inputs. That is their absolute privilege.

    Practically in all matters, these committees request experts in the subject matter on hand.

    In this case, by no stretch of imagination, Amir Khan is an expert in the pharmaceutical industry. Yes, if there was standing committee on films, it would be OK for Amir Khan to be invited, but for medicines and drugs? That is what the editorial is pointing at and suggesta that is where the committee ‘erred’.

    Imagine, tomorrow they would call upon Salman Khan the hero, the producer, the director and the writer of Dabangg for inputs for ‘police reforms’. They worked on the film for nearly a year, didn’t they? Must have become ‘experts’ on the police and policing.

    Your last para is entirely in conformity with your absolute distrust in democracy. Nothing new. Syria, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, ….

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Gopi

    Nothing wrong with the Parliamentary committee calling Aamir Khan. He has done a huge job on this front with his program and now represents some degree of public opinion.

    As we all know Parliamentary committed can go terribly wrong. The one on Bofors which had Mani Shankar AIyar,,,, sought to blame VP SIngh for Bofors and tried to twist the story by saying that national security had been compromised by investigation Win Chadha, Quotrochchi and Bofors kickbacks.

    I am working on a path breaking research project in bio physics. I know for sure that besides doctors I have also got invaluable inputs from workers and farmhands— their body balance is better as they work with both hands.

    A non conventional approach will get you more facts and get you closer to the truth.

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  • Anonymous

    hehehehehehehe

    Assi vottee ko vachan diya tha ki is blog pey nahin jaana, but you loafers just split me open. Bhaut hi khush keeta Mohan, fabulous joke on Ravi. As Shastri said when Yuvraj hit 6 sixes- its bhalle bhalle all the way.

    Shenoy saab I have semi retired, so please you hire new speedboat with Mohan and take harpoon to go Ravi hunting. hehe oh this is cruel, I have laughed so hard I nearly fell off my chair.

    what is this Shenoy about – “”"he used to send bus tickets, liquor slips, bottle corks etc by courier!”"” ??

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    Ravi Reply:

    Another round of mis-interpretations, self congratulations starts here.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Before anybody says self congratualations— I will congratulate Balwinder. :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Balwinderji,

    a childish prank in his ripe old age. Only fakes like Ravi are capable of these. I am sure if you ask him for its meaning, he won’t be able to tell you.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    ==Sangma wants debate with Pranab ahead of presidential polls

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Sangma-wants-debate-with-Pranab-ahead-of-presidential-polls/articleshow/14337085.cms

    Pinning hopes on “conscience vote” and his tribal identity, P A Sangma today virtually dared UPA nominee Pranab Mukherjee for a debate ahead of presidential polls, saying democracy needs debate.

    Maintaining that in a democracy people have the right to choose and there should be a debate at a time when the economy is sinking and scams are unimaginable, Sangma said, “Who is responsible for all this corruption…It has to be a candidate to candidate debate”.

    ==

    Keeping in mind, his outstanding career in politics and also being a Speaker of the Lok Sabha, this idea by P A Sangma really takes the cake. He has stolen the original idea from L K Advani

    Desperate situations makes people suggest outlandish and desperate ideas.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Gopi and other Hindutvawadis

    The following will be music to your ears. I received it in my email – cannot vouch for its authenticity and the date when this letter was written.

    Enjoy
    ==

    Dear John Dayal,

    A few years back, you wrote a letter to Jenab Mohammad Hamid Ansari, then Chairman, National Commission for Minorities, where you complained of harassment of nuns and Christian workers at Bus Stops, Rail Stations in Tirupati government-owned areas and objecting to a request to have the Constitutionality of the Seven Tirumala Hills being made out of bounds to Christians. Do you really think that for instance the Government of France would allow Hindu proselytizers in Lourdes, one of the most sacred places for Christians? Never. The French Government even has a branch of the Home Ministry looking into what they call ‘sects’.

    Amrita Anandamayi of Kerala is on that list. Although she has not committed any crime except embracing people and although her followers are doing remarkable social work, as good as any Christian organization in India, she is being harassed in France, the accounts of her group are being scrutinized, she faces difficulties in buying land and she has to keep a low profile.

    Tirupati is one of the most sacred places for Hindus. Why should nuns and missionaries go there to convert innocent Hindus? It’s an affront to the majority community of this country who have always respected the Christian faith.

    Remember that the first Christian community of the world is the Syrian Christian in Kerala? Do Christians in India realize how much freedom they have here? Any preacher from abroad can come to India, rent huge grounds, organize prayer meetings, advertise in the national press, get media coverage… Just try to do this in Saudi Arabia, or even China and see what will happen to your preachers …Then you go on complaining of a “sustained hate campaign by the religious fanatics” of the so-called Sangh Parivar in Andhra Pradesh. But you must be knowing that thanks to Chief Minister Rajshekhar Reddy, who died in an helicopter accident, nearly 20% of Andhra Pradesh has converted to Christianity. His son Jagan Reddy is very much a Christian too – he has even erected a cross over his massive new house in Hyderabad. Yet his name sounds Hindu. Do Christians in high places need Hindu names to fool the gullible masses of Hindus?

    Come on, Mr John Dayal, you are the one who is waging a systematic campaign of hate against Hindus. As a born Christian, I can see how Christianity is evolving slowly in the West, where it is becoming more and more accepted in the masses that there are other religions, such as Buddhism or Hinduism which have their own values. Yet in India, Christianity is becoming more and more rigid, more and more of a proselytizing spirit, like it was fifty years ago in the West. Christians in India represent only 2.5% of the population, yet they make so much noise, they occupy so much space in education, health care, journalism that you would think that they constitute the majority of this country.

    Again recently, you have targeted Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, respected not only by millions of Hindus, but also by many Christians in western countries and even by Muslims (he was received warmly last month in Pakistan). By doing this, you are showing that you are practicing a Christianity that is obsolete, aggressive and maybe even dangerous. It is time Christianity in India becomes a little more humble and quieter.

    Nobody is contesting your faith, but please leave alone ancient places of worship like Tirupathi and great sages such as Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. And remember: Sonia Gandhi may not be here forever…

    Yours Francois Gautier

    ==

    François Gautier, born 1959 in Paris, is a writer and journalist based in India. He came to India at the age of 19 and spent his first eight years in the “international city” of Auroville India at the Sri Aurobindo Ashram in Pondicherry. He has been living in India since the 1970s.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar
    A good letter.
    The fact that we are nothing like Saudi Arabia is – Very Good
    The fact that we are nothing like China is also – Very Good.
    The fact that we are nothing like Pakistan is – Even Better.

    Religion should remain a personal choice.

    I would agree that it is really bad manners for Christian Missionaries to TARGET vulnerable Hindus any-where in India and specialy in our very holi places.

    However, rather than use legislative means to control this activity, I much more favour voluntary restraint being exercised by the Missionaries.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Please give this advice to your jihadi friends in Kashmir, so that Rev. Khanna can be saved fromm certain death or chopping of hands.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    After long time, I am writing to you, yes, I am responding as a Hindutwawadi. I am glad, that you forwarded this e mail.
    Regards

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    America plans new covert raids in Pakistan.
    let us help them in anyway.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Nalanda: An Avatar In Distress

    The resurrection of an ancient centre of learning runs into modern problems

    http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?281280

    Excerpts

    Some nine centuries after the great seat of Buddhist learning was felled by the march of history, Parliament passed the Nalanda University Act in August 2010. Controversies continue to swirl around this ancient university being brought to life by an act of faith and law, mentored by a high-powered group of worthies led by Nobel laureate Amartya Sen. Questions continue to be asked about this modern-day liberal university in the making. Will Nalanda University take shape in New Delhi or in Nalanda, near Patna? Will its vice-chancellor be permanent? But most importantly, can Bihar, not exactly known for the quality of higher education it imparts, play host to an international university which, in its heyday (possibly in the Gupta dynasty era from the 6th century BC to the 12th century AD) was the repository of world knowledge?

    ==

    What about courses and infrastructure, the backbone of any university in the making? The campus in Nalanda just has a wall to show for all the effort so far. The first two faculties to kick off the academic exercise in this university will be environmental studies and historical studies, to be followed by others such as information technology and international relations. It is perhaps a sign of the changes since the original Nalanda that the courses being introduced reflect contemporary needs fuelled by a global market.

    “A university stands for humanism, for tolerance, for reason, for the adventure of ideas and for the search of truth,” said Jawaharlal Nehru. “It stands for the onward march of the human race towards even higher objectives. If the university discharges its duties adequately, then it is well with the people and the nation.” This speech was recently reiterated by CPI(M) leader Sitaram Yechury in a debate on the university in Parliament. Will the university fulfil the visions of the first prime minister, the scholars who studied in the ancient university of Nalanda and the parliamentarians who passed the act? Well, frankly, we don’t know. At this moment, in the best of traditions, a debate rages on.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar
    I think Nalanda should be in Bihar.

    Bihar’s need is greater than that of Delhi.

    Its curriculum should be liberal and not religion centeric, we do not want a Hindu Madrassa.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Mehdi Hasan Filled Different Vacuums in India and Pakistan

    http://naqvijournal.blogspot.in/2012/06/mehdi-hasan-filled-different-vacuums-in.html

    Excerpts

    Mehdi Hasan once said he aspired to do for Urdu ghazal what his relative Ustad Amir Khan did for Hindustani classical singing. Amir Khan controlled and stabilized the note on which, with effortless deliberation, he built the architecture of a raga.

    With similar control on the note, Mehdi Hasan proceeded to sketch the raga, not build it, so that he could superimpose its outlines on the mood of each ghazal.

    ==

    The extraordinary popularity of Mehdi Hasan and the genre he mastered is also an interesting sociological study. It filled a need in India for one set of reasons and in Pakistan for quite another.

    The “dhishum-dhishum” cinema of the 80s, dominated by Amitabh Bachchan, took the lyric out of Bollywood song. The Indian sensibility, reared for centuries on the rural, pastoral lyric, felt an aesthetic vacuum. The prospect of “hum, tum ek kamrey mein band hon” becoming a staple was forbidding. This space was filled up by the Urdu ghazal. The market found the commodity.

    In Pakistan music was being muzzled by the votaries of Islamization. Abdul Karim Khan’s youngest daughter, Roshanara Begum, migrated to Pakistan and proceeded to fade out in the absence of sponsors or an audience. Her sister Hirabai Barodekar thrived in India.

    The bogus conflict created by the clergy between music and shariah in Pakistan, snuffed out pure classical music. This in its turn created the space for the ghazal which Mehdi Hasan cleverly tied to classical music. Singing Urdu ghazal was kosher for the Mullah; music otherwise was not!

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    Ravi Reply:

    Time 7:30 P.M.

    Date: Summers Friday June 1972

    Venue: City Hall, Bradford, West Yorkshire.

    I was lucky enough to be given a ticket for a concert. The person who gave me the ticket was big in Civic Officers of Bradford City Council, and to my utter surprise and fathomless delight, my seat was in the front row where other free-loaders (dignitaries) were seated.

    After an unnecessary brace of lectures on Community Relations the concert started with Ghalib’s ghazal, and other followed. Soon silence was broken by a Heckler who shouted पंजाबी विच गा ओये the heckling intesified and a shoe was thrown on the stage.

    Then singer stood up and told the country bumpkins who had gathered to see – God knows what – that he was a Ghazal Singer and not a Punjabi Folk Singer. The organisers chipped in and at least 4 offenders were ejected from the hall.

    People settled down and the concert resumed, popular Ghazals followed one after another.

    The singer Mehdi Hassan concluded the concert with this ghazal.

    गुलों में रंग भरे बादे नौ बहार चले

    चले भी आओ के गुलशन का कारोबार चले

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    manohar_T Reply:

    I am not overtly interested in ghazals (my knowledge of Urdu is zilch), hence not in a position to appreciate these ghazals and their exponents.

    The author is right about the death of Hindi film music. The films of AB have been responsible to a very large extent, though it was solely unintended. In his films, songs became just adjuncts in continuation of the tried and tested format of our motion pictures – song and dance, hence quality did not matter. The likes of Jagjit Singh, Mehdi Hassan, Ghulam Ali and others filled in the vacuum.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Friday Musical Links

    Enjoy

    1) BADSHAH – 1954 – aa neele gagan tale pyaar ham karei.n – Lata Mangeshkar + Hemant Kumar
    Lyricist : Hasrat Jaipuri
    Composer: Shankar Jaikishan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnOFZw8wElg

    2) RAJ HATH – 1956 – mere sapne mei.n aanaa re – Lata Mangeshkar
    Lyricist : Shailendra
    Composer: Shankar Jaikishan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktb9hCRzNXg

    3) MUSAFIR KHANA – 1955 – thoDaa saa dil lagaake dekh – Shamshad Begum + Mohammad Rafi
    Lyricist: Majrooh Sultanpuri
    Composer : O P Nayyar

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2YW68wrVtM

    4) NIGHT CLUB – 1958 – kahaa.n phir ham kahaa.n phir tum – Geeta Dutt
    Lyricist: Majrooh Sultanpuri
    Composer : Madan Mohan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlmjyRb4eqs

    5) JADOO – 1951 – pyaar ke saagar se nikli .. ek jhooT hai – Mohammad Rafi
    Lyricist : Shakeel Badayuni
    Composer : Naushad Ali

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkA2uYieBAU

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    Ravi Reply:

    I absolutely love the song number 1

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    Agree. One of the best ever compositions.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Enjoy this
    Stazione Centrale di Milano is one of Europe’s main train stations. The
    building, inaugurated in 1931, is an architectural wonder; Vittorio

    Emanuele III himself laid the cornerstone in 1906. some more numbers for you to CHEW and then ruminate like the holy ones revered by BHP.
    he major changes were the new platform types and the introduction of the great steel canopies by Alberto Fava; 341 metres long and covering an area of 66,500 square metres.

    Construction resumed in earnest in 1925 and on July 1, 1931 the
    station was officially opened in the presence of Foreign Minister Galeazzo Ciano.
    Its facade is 200 metres wide and its vault 72 metres high, a record when it was built

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    manohar_T Reply:

    You should have told us in advance that you were talking about ‘historical records’ when you said Milan rail station is the biggest in the world, it may have been so in 1931 or are you telling us about your ‘visit’ to Milan in the year 1932?

    BTW: I had already read in Wikipedia what you have written above, before I posted the facts and figures. Nothing new to me.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    thanks manohar;
    Yes yeh hamari virasat ka hissa hain.

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  • Anonymous

    My late night reporting. Continuing from where i left about Milano.The focalpoint of Milano is the DUOMO or the MILAN CATHEDRAL.It is 2nd largest and highest (now some geezer will google just for the sake of proving me wrong).It is indeed breathtaking.it is so huge my panasonic Lumix camera couldn’t capture it in one frame. It is smothered with some 10000 sculpture of monks and other religious figures.The entire cathedral facade is italian marble.If you climb to the top of the cathedral (which you can do for a fee of few euros) YOU CAN SEE SWITZERLAND.It was Sunday , when i went in i was in for a surprise of my life.
    The ceiling is so high , one can hardly see it.The church service was in full swing. THIS WAS A GRAND AFFAIR , THE ONE WHICH I HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE . THIS WAS POMP AND SPLENDOUR.This was HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE harking back.
    There was the CHOIR being conducted like an orchestra. The chorus was DEAFENING , and the cadence takes your breath away. I could have just stayed for the choir music , IT WAS ON A GRAND SCALE.then there was incense in the background and the bishop delivering his sermon interrupted by the choir music.it was some experience.There was also MUMMIFIED bodies of cardinals kept in glass boxes for all to see.
    The other great attraction is the art gallery PINOCOTECA DI BRERA
    It is highly rated . it has some 37 rooms. i had researched beforehand , so went straight in to see DONATO BRAMANTE , Christ by the column , MONTEGNA, the dying Christ . My discovery was Franseco Hayez The Kiss
    and Joseph olivera ,
    The italian unique thing is the PIAZZA or the square. it is a huge place where people can congregate.In London the nearest thing is trafalgar square.
    But Milan squares are much granderhere is bramante

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shan;
    Thanks. Your description added to my appetite for visiting theses places.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Counting wrongly to 2014

    Vidya Subrahmaniam

    Narendra Modi’s autocratic style and the continuing questions about his
    role in the 2002 riots make his prime ministerial ambitions unrealistic

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article3559605.ece?homepage=true

    Excerpts

    Over the past month, the Gujarat Chief Minister has chased after his detractors with the force of a typhoon, establishing his supremacy within the Bharatiya Janata Party, and making sure each conquest added to the chatter about his 2014 bid for Prime Minister. Mr. Modi first vanquished Nitin Gadkari who had mistakenly assumed that his dominion as party chief extended to Chhote Sardar. The result was the public humiliation of Sanjay Joshi whom Mr. Gadkari had appointed to a party post knowing he shared a bitter past with the Gujarat Chief Minister. Mr. Modi had Mr. Joshi removed from the post and the party, showing the party chief and his lieutenant who the boss was.

    Then unprovoked, he swung at Nitish Kumar, lampooning Bihar’s caste preoccupations and contrasting its backwardness with Gujarat’s material superiority. Of course, the Bihar Chief Minister wasn’t going to take the insult. A star in his own right, and the fulcrum around which the National Democratic Alliance is built, Mr. Kumar set the terms for who was and who wasn’t going to run for Prime Minister on the NDA’s ticket. Mr. Modi wasn’t because the candidate’s secular credentials were non-negotiable. Since then a full-fledged war has erupted between Mr. Kumar’s Janata Dal (United), on one side, and the BJP and the sangh parivar, on the other, over Mr. Modi’s eligibility to lead the NDA into the next general election.

    Obviously, Mr. Modi’s larger aspirations are not going to go uncontested. Overawed as the BJP and its spiritual mentor are by Mr. Modi, they also know that his hegemony cannot be questioned and a party led by him will be a one-man show.

    ==

    Let’s face it. Mr. Modi is no Atal Bihari Vajpayee who was as much a champion of Hindutva as a man of lofty vision, breaking new ground on Kashmir and Pakistan. No other BJP leader could have pulled off a visit to Minar-e-Pakistan and as much is proved by Lal Krishna Advani’s failed attempt to imitate the veteran via an ode paid to Mohammad Ali Jinnah.

    The Gujarat Chief Minister lacks even the acceptability of Mr. Advani who built the BJP brick by brick and commands a measure of loyalty even today when he is seen to have served out his utility.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I will reiterate that Modi should claim rolyaty from these journalists for keeping them in business.

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    Why not?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There are 35 CMs more than 500 MPs and thousands of
    MLAs. Is it only Modi who is doing something worthwhile
    to write about.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Perhaps, Modi needs to change his PR team. His existing team works overtime to cause more damage than good to his ambitions.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is actually PR team of Congress which is working overtime
    to defame Modi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    this congressi troll is a part of that team.

    manohar_T Reply:

    One cannot not blame others for one’s misfortunes. Put your own house in order, stand up and fight. It is par for the course. As if Modi does not work overtime to defame his opponents and rightly so. This is all part of the politics.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Just remember the three famous quotes by Gopiji on
    BJP.

    manohar_T Reply:

    I do.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    look how the “secular” media twists things to its own advantage:Patna: Seeking to play down Narendra Modi’s remark that caste leaders had pushed Bihar into economic backwardness, the BJP on Tuesday said the Gujarat chief minister had referred to previous governments including the RJD regime and not to the current NDA dispensation.

    “Modi did not make the remarks about the NDA government, but referred to RJD supremo Lalu Prasad and earlier governments in Bihar,” Deputy Chief Minister and BJP leader Sushil Kumar Modi told reporters here.

    Prasad had brazenly indulged in caste politics at the cost of development during the entire three terms of the RJD- led rule in Bihar in contrast to development agendas of the NDA which enjoy support of both upper and backward castes, besides other sections of the society, he claimed.

    “I have seen the CD of Modi’s speech and his remarks are not aimed at the NDA government…The Gujarat Chief Minister made the remarks about caste politics apparently to warn some BJP leaders against playing out caste politics,” the Bihar deputy chief minister said.

    He blamed a section of the media for twisting the Gujarat Chief Minister’s remarks with an apparent intention to create controversy as if the reference was intended at the NDA government headed by Chief Minister Nitish Kumar.

    Kumar and Modi have had a strained relations ever since the former did not allow the BJP leader to campaign in Bihar in 2009 general elections and a year later cancelled a dinner hosted for the visiting BJP leadership at the party’s national executive in Patna which was attended by the Gujarat chief minister.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Most of the media is on the payroll of Congress.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    this Vidya Subramaniam is a biased journalist filled with hatred for Narendra Modi, which is oozing out from every sentence of this article.

    Just see this: “A star in his own right, and the fulcrum around which the National Democratic Alliance is built…….”. She doesn’t know or expects the reader to be ignorant of the fact that the NDA was built by the BJP leaders with co-operation from George Fernandes and Sharad Yadav, besides leaders from other alliance parties. Nitish Kumar was just a state leader at that time. To call him the fulcrum(!) is allowing her imagination and ignorance to run wild.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    National Interest: UPA 3, the chance
    Shekhar Gupta

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/national-interest-upa-3-the-chance/965637/0

    National political equations are being rewritten. Key players have been forced to reveal their cards. The Congress is an unexpected gainer, provided its leadership now has the courage and agility to build on this fortuitous turn. The NDA and the BJP seem to be in disarray, though there are new opportunities for them as well. The build-up, the shifting and shuffling of alliances have all begun ahead of the 2014 general elections as the combatants stir themselves out of the trenches.

    ==

    The gains for the UPA include the more formal arrival of Mulayam Singh Yadav in its tent, the fraying of the most unlikely — but vital — alliance between the NDA and Nitish Kumar’s JD(U), and the sudden, self-inflicted irrelevance of its most difficult ally, Mamata Banerjee. Is it all negative for the BJP and NDA? Not quite. If the NDA hopes to win in 2014, it would need Naveen Patnaik, J. Jayalalithaa, the dominant anti-Congress party in Andhra Pradesh and, with luck, even Mamata in its camp. The presidential election has given it its first opening in eight years to resume business with Patnaik and Jayalalithaa. It is most likely that Jagan Mohan Reddy, who is replacing the TDP as Andhra’s leading (and now dominant) regional party, will vote with the NDA too. Mamata has an issue with 33 per cent Muslim voters in West Bengal, but she has done business with the NDA before and is now bitter and lonely enough to take a new look at life. Further, the BJP, and, more importantly, the RSS, have also made their first moves to indicate that Narendra Modi will be their candidate for NDA’s prime minister in 2014. That’s why it is not all negative for the NDA, howsoever silly it may have been made to look right now. Our national politics is not only out of the freeze, it’s bubbling with action.

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  • Anonymous

    Imagine what would have happened if Adam and Eve were Chinese?
    We would still have been in paradise as they would have eaten the snake instead of an apple.

    Good morning friends.

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    Great.

    Good morning.

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    Great….. !! China ka side effect !

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    Great….. !! China ka side effect !

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  • Anonymous

    Free medicines for all from October

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Free-medicines-for-all-from-October/articleshow/14347633.cms

    General elections around the corner?

    [Reply]

    NitinGupta Reply:

    First positive news after a long time.

    [Reply]

    NitinGupta Reply:

    First positive news after a long time.

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    This free business is not a good sign. A lot of medicines and drugs will get siphoned off – an opportunity for unscrupulous elements to make hay. Moreover, what is the guarantee is that the not-so-holy staff will not demand money under the counter to administer the free medicines?

    Plus such a policy may act as disincentive for people to keep themselves healthy.

    Having said, of course the poor and not so poor people do need inexpensive healthcare. How is that to be done? I do not have the answers as yet. May be some type of country-wide health insurance scheme.

    May be you are right – elections are round the corner.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Calcutta High Court strikes down Singur Land Act

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/other-states/article3558305.ece?homepage=true

    In a setback to the Mamata Banerjee government, a Division Bench of the Calcutta High Court on Friday struck down the Singur Land Rehabilitation and Development Act, 2011, terming it “unconstitutional and void.”

    The law was enacted by the Trinamool Congress-led government to return a portion of the land acquired for the Tata Motors’ small car factory at Singur to “unwilling farmers” — in fulfilment of a key poll promise.

    The Bench of Justices Pinaki Chandra Ghose and Mrinal Kanti Chaudhuri set aside the order of single judge I. P. Mukerji who had ruled that the Act was “constitutional and valid.”

    ==

    Act in haste and repent at leisure.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Bengal’s loss Gujarat’s gain.

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    Day by day, Mamata is on a furious pace to make herself irrelevant.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Post in haste , swallow the bitter pill at leisure
    পয়েন্ট অফ অর্ডার’ তুলে অন্য
    একটি বিষয়ে পুর ও নগরোন্নয়ন মন্ত্রী
    ফিরহাদ হাকিমকে প্রশ্ন করলেন তৃণমূল বিধায়ক তাপস রায়। যার জবাবে
    জানা গেল, কলকাতা হাইকোর্টের যে সব অবসরপ্রাপ্ত এবং কর্মরত বিচারপতি বাম
    আমলে বিশেষ ‘কোটা’য় জমি পেয়েছেন, তাঁদের মধ্যে রয়েছেন পিনাকী ঘোষ।
    যিনি কলকাতা হাইকোর্টের সিঙ্গুর-আইন বিরোধী রায়ের অন্যতম কারিগর!
    TRANSLATION
    trinamool MLA tapas Roy raised Point Of Order and questioned Urban Dev Minister Firhad Hakim.In his response it came out THAT OF ALL THE RETIRED AND PRESENT JUDGES OF CALCUTTA HIGH COURT WHO RECEIVED LAND IN “SPECIAL QUOTA” during LEFT FRONT RULE , justice PINAKI GHOSH IS ONE OF THEM.
    The Bench of Justices Pinaki Chandra Ghose and Mrinal Kanti Chaudhuri
    set aside the order of single judge I. P. Mukerji who had ruled that the
    Act was “constitutional and valid

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    manohar_T Reply:

    I wish you had read more about the judgment.

    Allow me to enlighten you a bit.

    1) The case is between the Tata Motors and the Government of West Bengal and not ( repeat ‘not’) between Tata Motors and TMC or between CPI/CPM and TMC.

    2) There are two aspects. One was acquisition of land by the Government and two enactment of a law by the Government subsequently to undo the acquisition. No court takes cognizance of the fact as to which party is in power and is running the Government.

    If you acknowledge these facts, then there is nothing to discuss and the Minister’s insinuation is just that – insinuation. It is a different matter that Mamata and her cronies are trying to turn into a Tata vs Mamata battle.

    ==

    For a moment let us accept that the judges have been allotted plots under the previous regime (possibly true) and as a result their judgments have become suspect vis-a-vis only the present dispensation.

    a) How come the same charge was not made against Justice I P Mukerji (remember he is one of the present judges too)? Just because he delivered a judgment favouring Government run by TMC! Where was this Minister then?

    b) Let us wait for the Supreme Court take a call on the case and let that Minister (if he and TMC has the guts) submit in the apex court that the Calcutta High Court judge was biased and delivered judgment(s) accordingly. It is all very well to say outside the court, but the proof is in the pudding inside the court room.

    BTW: The petulance displayed by Mamata has naturally rubbed off on her Ministers and her close aides. Clones, anyone?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    let me remind you , THE SAME HIGH COURT had initially RULED IN FAVOUR OF THE GOVT IN A SINGLE BENCH, a year ago

  • Anonymous

    President Pratibha Patil gives life to dead man

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/President-Pratibha-Patil-gives-life-to-dead-man/articleshow/14349473.cms

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    Chamatkar hi chamatkar.

    She must have watched Ekta Kapoor’s Saas Bahu serials for the last several years.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    Let us dive a bit deeper here.

    The list was presented by the Union Ministery and that is where the mistake was made and the responsibility should rest.

    It is possible that the ministery itself blindly relied on the information being submitted by the Jail in Karnataka – the original source – of the information.
    So some, if not a lot, of the responsibility for the accuracy of the
    information must lie at this source.

    At the time of this murderers death Yeddy Golgoloogappa was the BJP CM and his car regularly passed the Fabricating Unit of a certain Khaki Nikkar Fabricator, who in his spare time fabricates stories, then he can not be held blame free.

    So if Prtibha Patil can be personally held responsible for this clerical error then so can be the chief tailor of the town.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I will tell you what exactly would have happened. The day she took
    the post of President she started making the list of the people
    she wanted to grant clemency. During five years tenure she kept
    on adding the names to that list and now at the end of her tenure
    she released it without verifying the authenticity of the names on
    the list.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Ofcourse you are 100% wrong and do not know how the office of the POI works.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I will tell you what exactly would have happened. The day she took
    the post of President she started making the list of the people
    she wanted to grant clemency. During five years tenure she kept
    on adding the names to that list and now at the end of her tenure
    she released it without verifying the authenticity of the names on
    the list.

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  • Anonymous

    DEAD MAN WALKING
    —–======———======—–
    PRATIBHA PATIL BECOMES SANJEEVINI PATIL, BECAUSE SHE GIVES LIFE TO A DEAD MAN AND DISCHARGES HIM FROM JAIL!
    ——–=================———————==============

    FIRST PRESIDENT TO RUN UP BILLS OF 230CRORES ON TRAVEL ALONE!

    FIRST PRESIDENT TO GRAB DEFENCE LAND MEANT FOR BUILDING QUARTERS FOR TOILING SOLDIERS.
    ———————-===================——————–

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    vijay ! Reply:

    The worst president of India… who got the job thru Naukercy !! Tempted others to become Dynasty naukers….! :)

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  • Anonymous

    Is special status to Bihar JD(U) price for support?
    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Patna/Is-special-status-to-Bihar-JD-U-price-for-support/Article1-877411.aspx
    Is this the secularism of Nitish Kumar ?

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan
    Trading Special Status for “Support” is a sad reality of coalition politics.
    How did this move cast any shadow on “Secularism” or otherwise of Nitish Kumar’s policy. Or is this your unique way of deflecting heat away from Modi and put it on Nitish Kumar.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Secularism is the most misused word in our country.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Then why did you misuse it?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Because using it is the exclusive privilege of the pseudosand fundoos like you.

    Ordinary people like me and Mohan can only misuse the word.

  • vijay !

    @ Nitin Gupta

    I read your comments on IIT and that of Manohar. I was not surprised that they were opposite of mine. With an added masala that I have little knowledge of the process.

    Let me clarify at this stage.

    I was in IIT. Not for BTech, for which I got a rank to qualify me for chemical engineering/textile engineering which I did not want, but for my MTech, Furtheron on my professor wanted me to join the faculty as a teacher and complete a PhD… which I thought i should not do as my requirements for cash were higher and I really wanted to do research in a field with hands on work experience… which I happen to do now.

    I think you are unable to see the issue in totality, while I am speaking pure sense out of experience

    a) IIT enterance is cruel hearltess exam where the question paper is way above that of most other colleges. A student who may enter many colleges may just get a 0 (ZERO) in IIT entry. No point in demoralisng a student for the rest of the life.

    So a common enterancee to all engineering exams… well would either require the IIT entry paper to be made simple… then more students will end up getting 100% which would then make choosing students for IIT difficult.

    b) School board results are highly different from state to state. How can you use that as a basis for IIT entry…. when marking is so variable. Many state boards are lax and give high marks. So boards are stringent. Only a duffer would equate the results. A 98% student of some board may only get 75% if he sat for an exam in Delhi.

    I suspect that this is a Rahul G and Si BB al proposal to try to make IIT a way to get a vote bank thru reservations.

    BY the way the topic of my research was– ” Can a nueral command in the mind… follow the laws of Newtonion Physics?”

    So before you comment that I have little idea of what I am speaking about… try to understand the implications of what I am saying.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    you are right in calling the bluff of Nitin Gupta and his congressi troll side kick.

    si-BB-al has sinister designs on IITs just like the commies destroyed JNU.

    Why does the PM-in-the-making want to desturb the autonomy of these world class institutions?

    (I think Pathak ji likes the name Nitin).

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    The UPA is a shallow outfit without any ideology but only one purpose– how to get a mandbudhhi Baby onto the ghodi.

    si-BB-al can only destroy and not create.

    They will destroy the IIT’s … and then in the end try to give Sonia and Baby G some credit for revolutionizing India…

    [Reply]

    NitinGupta Reply:

    Both pathak and you can take a hike. Together, if you fancy.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    will a walk do?

    NitinGupta Reply:

    Your IIT experience is of hardly of any use. You barely read.

    I wish you had spent a little time reading carefully before blindly punching the keys. Did somebody tell you a little reading could inject some meaning to your writing !

    Neither you have the understanding of the issues with IIT JEE, nor the state boards.

    Go, read the posts again. Mine and yours.

    And don’t flaunt your IIT connection. It does not reflect the experience or knowledge normally people would associate with IITians.

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  • vijay !

    ~~~ FRIDAY PREMIERE RELEASE !! BABY G KA SIDE EFFECT!!! ~~~
    =============================================

    Many of us felt angry and sad that Sonia G cried– “phoot phoot kar”– for the murdered terrorists of Batla House, Digvinash ji cried “Phoot phoot” kar for Osamaji, Salman Khurshid cried at Azamgarh, “phoot phoot” kar and Baby G cried after the UP election results.

    While Priyanka G cried for Nalini– the killer of her own father.

    Manu Singhvi cried because he was denied the rights to more BJ’s :)

    Unfortunately in its en-devour to divide and rule– the third class COngress and its trolls have divided India as never before. All that crying for the dead terrorists have lowered the standard of public discourse in India and unleashed a string of “crying” dramas.

    a) The Akalis in Punjab are crying for the killer of Beant SIngh and the murdering terrorists

    b) The national Conference in Jammu and Kashmir is crying for restoration of 1953 position.

    The standard of public life has been irredeemably lowered by the Congress/

    Well ALL OF US SHOULD NOT CRY. BUT JUST RESOLVE TO GIVE THIS IMMORAL, CORRUPT, DYNASTY OBSESSED CONGRESS A HUGE KICK IN THE GA_ _ _ IN 2014

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And we all are crying at this governments misrule which has given us
    huge scams, corruption, high inflation, down turn in economy, lower stock
    market, rupee at record low, biased paid media and chamchagiri of the
    highest degree of Gandhi family.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Very Biased media…. which will start shouting BJP, whenever they see Quotrochchi, YSR, 2G and CWG.

    But public sab jaanti hai…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, Mohan,

    Rahul Gandhi and Varun Gandhi once went to a bar after work for a drink, and sat on stools watching the 6 O’clock news. A man was shown threatening to jump from the Brooklyn Bridge, and Rahul Gandhi bet Varun Gandhi $50 that he wouldn’t jump. Sure enough, he jumped, so Rahul Gandhi gave Varun Gandhi $50. Varun Gandhi said, “I can’t take this, you’re my cousin.” But Rahul Gandhi insisted saying, “No. A bet’s a bet.” Then Varun Gandhi said “Listen, I have to tell you that I saw this on the 5 O’clock news, so I can’t take your money.” Rahul Gandhi replied “Well, so did I, but I didn’t think he would jump again!”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He is a baby and will always remain a baby. He should not have
    been removed from the cradle.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Shenoy and MOhan

    :) :) Smiles for all !

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    Alan Mathison Turing’s 100th birthday: Google pays tribute with a doodle

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/news/internet/Alan-Mathison-Turings-100th-birthday-Google-pays-tribute-with-a-doodle/articleshow/14353203.cms

    Google on Saturday marked the celebrations of the 100th birth anniversary of computer scientist Alan Mathison Turing with an attractive doodle. Turing, who is also known as the founder of computer science, played a significant role in breaking the wartime Enigma- enciphered messages.

    ==

    As he grew, Turing showed exceptional ability in solving advanced problems. His innovative mind conducted several test and also worked on the design of the Automatic Computing Engine (ACE). In 1946, he presented a paper which is known as the first elaborate design of a stored-program computer.

    His life is full of achievements and because of this extraordinary work he was appointed Reader in the Mathematics Department at the University of Manchester in 1948. His contribution in mathematics and ‘Computing machinery and intelligence’ are still considered to be significant work.

    Turing was convicted of his homosexual actions as criminal act in the United Kingdom in 1952. After two years of conviction on 8 June, 1954 he was reported dead due to cyanide poisoning which was believed to be a suicide.

    In 2009, after a campaign the then prime minister of the United Kingdom Gordon Brown issued an apology for Turing’s treatment on behalf of the British government.

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    Tamil Nadu

    Government school slams its doors on married girls
    http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article3559934.ece?homepage=true

    Is there any bar on married girls pursuing their education in Class XI of a government school? This intriguing question has arisen in the minds of many people at Melur, a town situated about 20 km from Madurai, abutting the highway leading to Tiruchi and Chennai.

    ==

    Already there is a conflict between the general law relating to marriage and the personal laws of different communities. It is high time the law makers gave a serious thought to the issue,” he adds.

    C. Anantha Raj, Executive Director of Equal Right, a non-governmental organisation here, says that marriages of minor children are not uncommon in the villages of southern districts.

    The police do not interfere because not many complain about it. Such cases come to light only when someone blows the whistle due to a family feud. Further, it is only in rare cases that minors are allowed to study after marriage. The general practice is to make them raise a family. “Education is empowerment and if we are going to close the doors of a school to married girl students, then that is going to strike a death knell to women’s empowerment,” he concludes.

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    Portraitist of the Nehruvian era

    Sunil Janah, the photographer whose searing coverage of the Bengal Famine and vivid political portraiture of the 1940s and 1950s helped chronicle a tumultuous era in the life of India, passed away at his home in Berkeley, California on June 21. He was 94 years old.

    ==

    Unlike other photographers, Janah was an active political worker whose political work happened to be photography. Because of his talent and reputation, P.C. Joshi happily acceded to requests from the Congress party, the Muslim League and the National Conference in Kashmir to allow him to photograph their meetings and conventions. As an insider with a political ideology, Janah’s photographs stood out for their passionate engagement, idealism and an uncompromising artistic vision.

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    Hospital demonstrates complex heart procedure to specialists in the U.S.

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Coimbatore/article3558232.ece?homepage=true

    Interventional Cardiologist at G. Kuppuswamy Naidu Memorial Hospital in Coimbatore Rajpal K. Abhaichand and his team on Thursday demonstrated through videoconferencing a tough angioplasty to a gathering of heart specialists at Orlando in the U.S.

    Dr. Abhaichand said two stents were placed in the left main artery in a 62-year-old man’s heart. What made the procedure complex was that two stents had to be placed simultaneously at a branching point of the artery, involving two regions. Because of this, blood supply to the entire heart had to be stopped for 30 to 40 seconds. If stenting is done in one region, the supply is stopped only to that location and the rest of the heart gets blood.

    ===

    Read on

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  • Anonymous

    RBI’s Cruel Intentions

    http://www.mediacrooks.com/2012/06/rbis-cruel-intentions.html#comment-form

    The Reserve Bank of India
    (RBI) has suddenly announced that ‘people from all walks of life’
    want to see new figures on our currency notes. Umm… let’s see, they want figures
    like B.R. Ambedkar, Nehru, Indira Gandhi and Shivaji
    on our notes. Who are all these people from all walks? That’s a recent
    report in the EconomicTimes
    of June 17,2012. Alright, the demand for Ambedkar’s picture on currency notes is
    not new. It came from a relatively unknown NGO in 2010 as DNA
    reports.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Soon a demand for Rajiv Gandhi’s photo, Kanshi Ram and MGR’s pic would follow….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    this is a new idea for Congress… this will be a big vote getter — put few Muslim leaders, dalit leaders, etc…as long as they are careful not to put the prophet Muhamed’s picture..

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  • Anonymous

    Sign board outside the prostitute’s house.

    Married men not allowed.
    We serve the needy, not the greedy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    At another adda, this was what found written:

    we serve only those with need.
    And married men? No, indeed,
    because they are fired with greed
    To them we say, “please heed
    our advice, go back with speed”

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  • Anonymous

    An excerpt from an article I read
    ” While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year-old farmer, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man… Eventually the topic got around to Sonia and her role as Congress President.
    “The old farmer said, ‘Well, you know, Sonia is a Post Turtle.’ Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked what post turtle meant. The old farmer explained, ‘When you are driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that is a post turtle.’
    “Seeing a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, the farmer elaborated, ‘You know she did not get up there by herself, she does not belong up there, she does not know what to do while up there, she is elevated beyond her ability, and you just wonder what kind of dumb person put her up there to begin with…’”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Superb description. The best I have heard.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    she is only one of the post turtles…
    manohar’s golden democracy manufactures them steadily….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen sxenaji,

    a more apt description of the madam from Italy I have not read.

    A post turtle. A great insight into the way madam got placed on the throne during those fateful twelve minutes when Sitaram Kesari couldn’t control his over-flowing bladder.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Congress should nominate Sita Ram kesri for Bharat Ratna. Or nominate the guard who locked Kesri inside the toilet for 12 minutes, during which the CWC nominated Sonia G as President, in a Congress style “democratic election… “

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But unless CWC puts anybody there, nobody can be there…so rather than blaming Sonia , we should blame the CWC and more importantly the stupid “top down” systems that create these.. Karunanidhi, Dev Gowda, Yadav, Patnaik, Reddy…the list is endless.

    Indira Gandhi got rid of the ex princes and rulers..but in its place put new family dynasties east, west, south, north..

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Yes this dynasty business needs the dustbin of history.

    Dynasty worshippers need to de-toxified from blind worship !

    Anonymous Reply:

    the only good thing with BJP now is that they do not have a dynasty cult yet..

    but the voters seem to not to care about dynasty, even corrupt ones, as they have shown in the Reddy land..

    NitinGupta Reply:

    Son of a “successful” doctor, engineer, politician usually long for his father’s profession.

    Till few years ago, BJP was barely there on the national scene. It started getting prominence after Advani’s rath yatra. But BJP as a party has not repeated the success to set up a dynasty. For a dynastry, you need to rule for a prolonged period. BJP hasn’t done that yet.

    And few that got success, ain’t married. So there was hardly any chance of dynasty. It’s like a begger saying he never cared for money in life.

    Though for corruption, a son-in-law was good enough.

    Anonymous Reply:

    doc and politician are different …..

    NitinGupta Reply:

    Who doesn’t know that !

    Anonymous Reply:

    If A doctor’s child or an Engineer’s child makes a blunder
    he/she has to bear the loss and face the consequences.
    Where as the politicians children hold public offices and
    the losses of their mistakes are borne by public.

    NitinGupta Reply:

    When was last you heard a doctor or an engineer facing consequences for a mistake. By the way their mistakes are life threatening.

    In army, there are 4 generations serving. In IIT Kaharagpur and BITS, Pilani there were 4 brothers joining the Institute year after year and at one point of time each batch had a brother. In many cases, generation after generation have joined IFS ( Menon), army, medical, engineering professions.

    For dynasty, one has to set a legacy. And for that one has to be in power for long. And that does not come by shouting on the net and ridiculing others. If so then every joker could be in power and set a dynasty.

    Anonymous Reply:


    If so then every joker could be in power.”
    That is why we keep on getting jokers in politics.
    In other professions children have to educate and prove
    themselves to reach any respectable position. In politics
    only the name of the family is enough.

    NitinGupta Reply:

    If that was so every politician’s son/daughter could be a PM or CM. And how many politicians do we have in India ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    FORGET PM OR CM… it is a national tragedy along with so many other tragedies that a son, daughter, wife etc gets the “party seat” and from the same family Yadav, gandhi etc multiple MPs get sent…
    High time we need a US style primary system here in india

    NitinGupta Reply:

    Even then a Clinton or a Bush or a Kennedy will come along. May be we should look at China !

    Anonymous Reply:

    There was only one Clinton.. Mrs Clinton got defeated by Obama o did not have any political connections…
    Bush son went through a gruelling primary process against mcCain and won– no party nominated him!,

    NitinGupta Reply:

    Go ahead, do the same analysis for every Indian politician who come from the same family. Perhaps you will never have to talk about it again.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What grueling process did Rajiv Gandhi had to go through
    before he became PM of India.?

    NitinGupta Reply:

    Like any other politician, he too fought, won and lost elections.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Did he fight any election before becoming PM?

    Anonymous Reply:

    mohan- in our stupid system, a party beholden to a person/persons nominate their man for a seat instead of pary members deciding who their candidate should be

    Anonymous Reply:

    I don’t know whether the system is stupid or our so called
    leaders are stupid who don’t mind crawling in front of
    their high command.

    NitinGupta Reply:

    Everybody crawl before power.
    Even husbands do.

    manohar_T Reply:

    You keep harping that our system is stupid.

    Now let me guess which system would be acceptable to you. The army takes over the country and the generals are ‘wise’ enough to make Modi the Prime Minister. Looks like that is the only way he has a remote chance of occupying that chair in South Block, which you so dearly wish.

    NitinGupta Reply:

    In 6 months time even Gadkari has to fight election and get elected if he replaces Modi today for any unfortunate reason.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Perfect politicians answer.

    Anonymous Reply:

    He “won” where he didn’t go and ask for votes for his party.
    He lost, badly at that, wherever he went and canvassed.

    Does that qualify for gruel?

    NitinGupta Reply:

    Perhaps you did the proxy for him.

    Anonymous Reply:

    There are only few families who think it is their right that only
    their children can get the seats of CMs and PMs

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nitin Pathakji, Gopi, Mohan, here is how the mind of dynasty works and what we get as our rulers:

    Rahul Gandhi was going on a plane trip to New York. When the air hostess came by and asked for his ticket, she told Rahul Gandhi,”I’m sorry. Your ticket isn’t for first class. Could you please move to your seat.” Rahul Gandhi replied,”I’m a Gandhi, I’m young, and I’m going to New York.” The lady said,”That’s fine mister, but you’ll have to go to your seat.” Rahul Gandhi responded again, ,”I’m a Gandhi, I’m young, and I’m going to New York.” This conversation continued, always with the Rahul Gandhi ‘s same response. The air hostess got so upset that she went to the captain and told him about Rahul Gandhi. The captain went and whispered something in Rahul Gandhi ‘s ear and Rahul Gandhi immeadiately got up and went to his seat. The lady asked the captain how he got the stubborn Rahul Gandhi to move. He said, “I just told him that this part of the plane wasn’t going to New York.”

    Anonymous Reply:

    We regularly hear jokes on blondes showing how stupid they are, it seems very soon Rahul Gandhi will surpass
    them in becoming butt of jokes.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    Do you think that Patnaik, Mulayam, Karunanidhi, NTR were all there before Jansangh/BJP was born?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    Do you think that Patnaik, Mulayam, Karunanidhi, NTR were all there before Jansangh/BJP was born?

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    praveenji,
    best description without mailace. great one.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Praveenji;
    One of the best. No doubt about it.

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  • Anonymous

    A Gujarati detective in Scotland Yard

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/A-Gujarati-detective-in-Scotland-Yard/articleshow/14348191.cms

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Good for you. The icing on the cake is that he is from your own home town. Is that so?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am happy that he is an Indian. It is just a coincidence that he is
    a Gujarati.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    With sizable numbers of different ethnic people in UK and elsewhere, it is but natural they would hold important positions in various organisations in the country where they have chosen to live and are equal citizens. Another example, Nasser Hussain was the captain of the English Cricket Team.

    manohar_T Reply:

    With sizable numbers of different ethnic people in UK and elsewhere, it is but natural they would hold important positions in various organisations in the country where they have chosen to live and are equal citizens. Another example, Nasser Hussain was the captain of the English Cricket Team.

    manohar_T Reply:

    With sizable numbers of different ethnic people in UK and elsewhere, it is but natural they would hold important positions in various organisations in the country where they have chosen to live and are equal citizens. Another example, Nasser Hussain was the captain of the English Cricket Team.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Good for you. The icing on the cake is that he is from your own home town. Is that so?

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  • Anonymous

    Manohar

    regarding your reference to John Dayal—–
    John is another example of how garbage rises to the top in India through secular commissions and government shenanigns

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    manohar_T Reply:

    I can give you countless examples of the trash and garbage produced by the Hindutva / RSS ideology. If you wish me to list them, please let me know, I will start with a Chief Minister.

    I am no apologist for John Dayal or anyone else. Remember, I chose to reproduce the letter,which received in my mail-box.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    John Dayal is the rabidest proselytiser and anti-Hindu preacher I have seen in India.

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    China falsifying economic statistics to disguise true depth of troubles:
    Keith Bradsher, New York Times

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/international-business/China-falsifying-economic-statistics-to-disguise-true-depth-of-troubles-Economists/articleshow/14358403.cms

    As the Chinese economy continues to sputter, prominent corporate executives in China and Western economists say there is evidence that local and provincial officials are falsifying economic statistics to disguise the true depth of the troubles.

    Record-setting mountains of excess coal have accumulated at the country’s biggest storage areas because power plants are burning less coal in the face of tumbling electricity demand. But local and provincial government officials have forced plant managers not to report to Beijing the full extent of the slowdown, power sector executives said.

    ==

    The question is whether the actual slowdown is even worse. Skewed government data would help explain why prices for commodities like oil, coal and copper fell heavily this spring even though official Chinese statistics show a more modest deceleration in economic activity.

    Manipulation of official statistics would also provide a clue why some wholesalers of consumer goods and construction materials say sales are now as dismal as in early 2009.

    Keeping accurate statistics for internal use by policy makers while releasing less grim figures to the public and financial markets may also help explain why China’s central bank suddenly and unexpectedly cut interest rates earlier this month.

    ==

    Jonathan Sinton, a China energy specialist at the International Energy Agency, said he had not heard of false data in China’s electricity sector, and he doubted it would be feasible at the five biggest electricity generation companies that together produce half of China’s electricity.

    “If there is a problem, it is going to be located in the smaller producers,” he said, cautioning that even these producers would eventually have to submit accurate information to reconcile fuel, electricity and financial accounts.

    ====

    Where does the truth lie?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have no idea whether Chinese are falsifying but this recession has
    hit them also. Thousands of manufacturing units have closed down,
    unemployment has increased and their currency which was appreciating since 3-4 years has stopped moving up and in fact has depreciated a bit
    in last two months.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have no idea whether Chinese are falsifying but this recession has
    hit them also. Thousands of manufacturing units have closed down,
    unemployment has increased and their currency which was appreciating since 3-4 years has stopped moving up and in fact has depreciated a bit
    in last two months.

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  • Anonymous

    Is Hinduvatta spreading its wings in US.?

    Yoga in Times Square

    http://www.timesunion.com/news/slideshow/Yoga-in-Times-Square-44814.php#photo-3096225

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    manohar_T Reply:

    There is a world of difference between Hinduism and Hindutva. Hindutva cannot claim exclusive rights over Yoga, much as its protagonists would like to do so.

    Too much should not be read into acceptance and adopting some good aspects of Hinduism or for that matter any other religion, region or country by others.

    One does not have to become a Hindu (or as you seem to suggest – Hindutvawadi) to adopt and practice yoga.

    The subcontinent over a period of thousands of years have accepted, adopted and assimilated a very large of practices and customs (good or bad) from all over.

    The show in the Times Square for all you know must have been a marketing and PR exercise by someone / organisation to attract customers for their yoga classes – a perfectly legitimate exercise.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That is a news to me. I was under the impression that practicing
    yoga, reciting Gita, performing pujas and doing anything related to
    Hindus is spreading Hinduvata.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    You used the word Hindutva, I didn’t.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I used this word for the reason I have mentioned above.
    After almost 15-16 months on this blog and reading many articles by prominent journalists I have come to this conclusion that adopting any practice of Hindus is like
    spreading Hinduvata.

    manohar_T Reply:

    There is a difference between Hinduism and Hindutva, thanks to the RSS.

    Today, Hindutva has come to exclusively describe Hindu religious fanatics such as groups like RSS, Shiv Sena, etc.

    On the other hand, Hinduism is all inclusive, tolerant and liberal way of life, which the large majority of the people of the subcontinent have been practising for thousands of years.

    Recall, a few days back, Mohan Bhagwat stated that he would like to have a Hindutvawadi as the Prime Minister.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hindutva is the word coined by some people to bash Hinduism.

    Did Mohan Bhagwat proclaim that if a Hinduatvawadi becomes PM of India than people of other religions will be considered as second class citizens ?

    manohar_T Reply:

    Hold the RSS responsible for negativism attached to Hindutva and Hindutvawadi.

    If you look at the core ideology, that is precisely what Mohan Bhagwat means.

    Of course, he will not succeed, check the reasons given above in reply to Ishwar. The very danger (perceived or real) results in the RSS/BJP having fewer supporters than opponents.

    Why do you think Nitish Kumar has launched a campaign to keep the RSS hardliners at bay?

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    Simply for muslim votes. Do not you see the kind of politics being practiced by every scum of Indian politics. They remain with the NDA for all the time, when fruits of perk and pelf were available. Towards the end, these timeservers, abondened the NDA, crying secularism. did they not know before that what BJP stands for?? Chameleons of Indian politics.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Let me give you my take on this, which had been first articulated by Atal Behari Vajpayee and many others in the BJP then.

    The allies walked off after 2002. Some stayed on until 2004 – call them opportunistic and without any scruples, you can call them more names – that is their politics and I do not approve of them. They should have walked off in 2002 itself.

    BJD broke ranks late in 2009, because of Orissa 2008. The BJP being part of the ruling combine thought they could get away by killing Christian tribals. The killings was based on the false premise that some RSS/BJP ’swami’ was killed by these Christians, when it was the work of the Maoists. Naveen Patnaik would have none of it and showed the BJP the door.

    Today, the BJP has 4 or 6 allies, two of them do not wish to go along with it on the Presidential elections – speaks volumes about the ‘authority’ and ’standing’ of the BJP.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar,
    Authority and Standing of BJP, you mean in NDA? Whle NDA is out of Power. In UPA, congress is in Power and what about its standing and authority?? DMK kicks it day in and day out. mamta, screams at them, every time she opens her mouth. UPA is seeking support from outside parties for its survival, as it is in power and shamelessly using both bribes of office and fear of enquiry by CBI.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If the RSS is Hindutvawadi then is the BJP also Hindutvawadi? By extension the NDA? Meaning the country was governed by the same set of forces you seem to suggest are non-inclusive, intolerant and fundamentals for some time. The sky didn’t fall, or did it?

    Anonymous Reply:

    According to some people all the problems of India were
    generated during NDA rule. Before that we were in Swarga
    and now we are in Vainkutha

    manohar_T Reply:

    Who are these some people?

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    funny one. Good.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Ishwar

    Of course, the sky will not fall, because of the vast majority of the people of this country do not believe in this ugly form of Hinduism and the RSS/BJP had to put its core agenda on the back burner or else the allies (most have abandoned it) would not play ball when the NDA was in power. The other factor is our constitution, it does not permit any hanky-panky.

    However, the intentions of the RSS are nefarious.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    intentions of RSS are nefarious. Any instances of those nefarious designs, agenda etc??

    manohar_T Reply:

    Gujarat 2002, Orissa 2008,

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    Like you mean RSS worked in Gujarat riot and Orissa riots? Was some one from RSS arrested?? A conspiracy unearthed?? who is saying RSS,RSS, RSS is involved , Who, Who???

    manohar_T Reply:

    In Orissa, scores of BJP workers and MLAs, VHP and BD goons have already been convicted and serving jail sentences. Naveen Patnaik (not from the RSS/BJP) had set up fast track courts.

    The story in Gujarat is a bit different, Massive systematic efforts by the Government (of the BJP) have been made since 2002 to deny justice to the victims and save and protect the culprits. In short stalling the process of Justice. So much so that the cases had to be moved out of Gujarat – a slap on face of …… The Supreme Court and the High Court had to appoint SITs to investigate.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Our PM says that Muslims have first right on the resources of the country and he is considered Secular. Mohan Bhagwat
    says that a Hindutvawadi should become PM of India and
    he becomes communal.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Our PM couldn’t sleep for days when a Muslim doctor in Aus was suspected of being a terrorist.

    Sonia Gandhi cried copiously when Islamic terrorists were gunned down.

    Which makes them supremely secular, even if of the pseudo variety.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Congress says Muslim League in kerala s not communal

    manohar_T Reply:

    Similarly Gopi Thomas says that RSS / BJP / Modi are not communal.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well manohar, congress cannot say BJP is communal when they say Muslim league is not communal..
    btw I there are many Christians and others in BJP; but as far as I know Muslim league is strictly Muslims

    manohar_T Reply:

    As I said, it never fails. All I have to say is the magic word – Modi.

    A swallow or a two do not make a summer. I do not care what the Muslim League is – its presence is insignificant. I am worried about bigger monsters like the RSS.

    Ravi Reply:

    I think you need to compare Muslim League with Akali Dal and VHP, bot BJP.

    manohar_T Reply:

    We have to be wary of the Muslim League, BJP, Shiv Sena and all other religion specific parties. As far as Shiromani Akali Dal is concerned, except for their ambivalent stand on Khalistan and Khalistanis, I do not think they play the Sikh card in Punjab and discriminate against non-Sikhs. Do you have information to the contrary?

    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi
    Strictly speaking neither term Hindus, or Muslims describes a community.

    manohar_T Reply:

    True democracy means that the majority do not trample upon the rights of the minorities.

    Anonymous Reply:

    who is trampling on minorities…and why should people have different rghts—All indians should have same rights

    manohar_T Reply:

    Precisely that is what the Prime Minister meant.

    Ravi Reply:

    Indian society is where due to Hindu Caste System there has been a very large section of our population who have been discriminated so badly that many of them do not even have basic birth rights – even now.

    To put this right, +Ve discrimination is probably the only way, in that respect ALL Indians do not have the same rights now, because they never had the same rights in the past. Before you say that Muslims ruled India and all that is BS. Many many Muslims are former dalits who converted to Islam/Buddhism to escape from the tyranny of Upper Cate Hinduism.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Someone was kicked into the sea by balwinder :)
    And is still at sea…. !

    manohar_T Reply:

    They have equal rights on paper. The reality is different and we have to correct that and that is what any caring government would endeavour to do that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    True democracy is equal rights for everyone. This talk of trampling upon the rights of minorities creates conflict between communities and our politicians are expert in taking adavantage of such situations. Everybody shoud be made to feel Indian first and than Hindu, Muslim, Christian
    and Sikh.

    Ravi Reply:

    What about Dalits. Particularly in our villages. What should they be made to feel as???

    manohar_T Reply:

    Please note that the minorities are not in such a large number (20%) that they will eat away all the resources, leaving nothing for the majority. Humanity dictates that we look after the downtrodden too. Get the perspective right.

    Good. “Everybody shoud be made to feel Indian first and than Hindu, Muslim, Christian and Sikh”. Let everyone practice it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Who are downtrodden in our country? All minorities are downtrodden and all the members of majority are living
    lavishly?

    manohar_T Reply:

    The fact is that a large sections of our countrymen have been left behind for various reasons, hence the need to have a more humane approach towards these unfortunate people and not dumped within kissing distance of Ahmadabad’s biggest garbage dump without any civic facilities. Their fault – because they are ……….

    manohar_T Reply:

    True democracy is equal rights for everyone.

    That has not happened as yet. It is still work-in-progress.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    the congressi troll is opposing yoga because it is a Hindu system of mental and physical exercise.

    For the same reason the Vatican and Islamic clergy have passed fatwas against yoga.

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  • Anonymous

    Bishan Singh Bedi’s son???

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/mumbai-rave-party-apurva-agnihotri-rocky-s-among-44-who-tested-positive-for-drugs-235183

    He is the Mahesh Bhatt of Indian Cricket – having an opinion on everything. Would love to hear from him on this one as well :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Perfect comparison between the two mavericks.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But one of them is a pseudo secular loud mouth, who becomes the loudest mouthed and shrill while talking about Narendra Modi.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    I agree. Both Bedi and Bhatt are loud mouths.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Ishwar
    Gr8 parallel! Bedi always called the 50 overs matches as masala cricket… and guess… he has no problems in becoming a TV expert on them.
    A loudmouth… who was good spinner… but a loudmouth like Bhatt

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  • Anonymous

    After Pranab da’s election, the Rashtrapati Bhawan can be renamed “Rajiv Gandhi Memorial Rest House for retired congressmen”.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It definitely is retired politicians’ home….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And the expenses are borne by the tax payers.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    nobody cares for the tax payers; but only for tax users… the article link u provided on – why nations fail – says the whole thing..

    Anonymous Reply:

    But, having Rajiv Gandhi’s name on such a grand monument will be great.

    Even the British queen will be jealous.

    NitinGupta Reply:

    Remember to say the same thing when somebody with NDA support becomes the President.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Dr. Abdul K Kalam was elected the President with NDA/BJP support. I am wondering whose money was used to pay the expenses then.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Whose money is used to pay the salaries, wages and expenses of Narendra Modi? If not tax payers’, then whose?

    Anonymous Reply:

    well, Mohan was talking about the expense of converting the house to rajiv gandhi name and supporting this retired stupid people in RB.

    You are right, the expense of whoever is in RB will be spent by Govt.. even the exhorbitant expenses of the kitchen helper old woman useless Pratiba

    manohar_T Reply:

    It never fails to generate extreme reactions. The magic word – Modi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    . This is what I was trying to say. Thanks.

    manohar_T Reply:

    That is beauty of a democracy. People of humble origin can aspire to high constitutional posts – they have as much as right as you to do, you are no one special, nor is Modi. The constitution guarantees that – I know you do not believe in Indian system,. How about Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, North Korea and Cuba (a Christian country)? Would be great places for one to emigrate to!

    Some of you here think that anyone having a background beneath your own is not fit to be the President of India. Go tell that to someone else. Whether the present incumbent is below your rank in life is for you to decide. there is enough information on the net.

    Do you know the background of Abraham Lincoln. Here it is

    As he grew into his teens, he willingly took responsibility for all chores expected of him as one of the boys in the household and became an adept axeman in his work building rail fences.

    In your book, he should have never been the President of the USA. because he did all sorts odd jobs – building railway fences, which you find beneath your own dignity. Right?

    ==

    Anonymous Reply:

    abrraham lincoln was selected by his party rnk and file… H ehad a series of adebates with Douglas..people voted hinm as theoir party’s nominee.. neither patibha patil nor sonia agndhi was voted by people

    manohar_T Reply:

    Gopi

    I have always expected better from you, but many times you disappoint.

    It should be clear to everyone that the Indian and American systems are different.

    No president starting from Dr. Rajendra Prasad, followed by Dr. S. Radhakrishnan right up to Dr. A. P J Kalam has ever been elected directly by the people, so why do you object to Mrs. Patil having being elected by the same process and system. There is no other way. Perhaps you will also have a problem with Mr. Pranab Mukherjee getting ‘indirectly’ elected by the people.

    I do not know what you are trying to convey about Sonia Gandhi. Elected to what post? She is a MP (just as Sushma Swaraj is ) having been directly elected by the people. If you have problem with her being the President of a party and not ‘directly’ elected by the people, the same applies to all parties – Nitin Gadkari, Jayalalitha, Mulayam Singh, etc.

    manohar_T Reply:

    “converting the house to rajiv gandhi name”

    Only a nincompoop will come up with a suggestion like that and one has on this blog.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It was a joke and should be taken as a joke only.

    manohar_T Reply:

    My apologies, if it has hurt you. You were not the target, as you very well know. – the originator of the idea was.

    I thought you were serious about the rest of the post, given the nature of the posts flying around.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    Is electing a thief, forgerer and a cheat as president also proof of Sonia Gandhi being a nincompoop? Pratibha Patil also proved that she is suffering from wandermania and wanderlust costing the country Rs.230 Crores, besides proving herself to be a land grabber. The congressi troll here is a bigger nincompoop and idiot who blindly supports naukarcy.

  • Anonymous

    many comments are being censored out.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Really ? I did not notice that .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    May be it has to do with the browser.. I could see the comments when I switched to Mozilla

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  • vijay !

    @ Nitin gupta
    You have full right to make fun of my IIT connection… no problems!

    By the way the first thing I learnt as a serious science student was to kick out mythology, sperstitiion, blind worship of families and spin…

    I think your devotion to the mythological power of Sonia G is very very touching… !!

    I think your idea that Baby G has full right to be PM and deserves to be one…. because his pop, grandmum, grandfather was one !! Wah janab Wah !! Kya spin hai…

    Beautifull… this way America should be still ruled by the Linolcns and the British by the Churchills !! That would be real progress…

    C’mon Pathak G… the world has moved beyond naukercy…
    .
    You hace still not told me the difference between Rabri Auntie and Sonia auntie…

    After all both are there becasue of their husband and want to hand over the reins to their sons !! And the husbands were accused of serious crime.
    I am sure this is the India you would want… is it not !!???

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    NitinGupta Reply:

    Who made fun of your IIT connection?
    It was a serious suggestion.

    And take a walk with Pathak.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Well the ground reality in IIT is that mixing them with state boards would be stupid as state board results vary widely.

    I employ engineers many of whom are toppers from pvt colleges. Well some of these pvt universities guarintee you 90% in Engineering the day you enter. One such topper told me yesterday at site that the drawing dimensions marked as 4100 mm were 4 metres and 100 cm .

    I tried to explain to him that 4100 milimetres is 4 metres and 10 centimetres. And nobody says 4 metres and 100 centimeters as that is actually 5 metres.

    He is still not convinced. And is confused…

    not to make fun of pvt colleges. But trying to explain that marking patterns differ from Board to board.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Vijay and Nitin
    I think the time has come for India to evolve beyond vodoo and family worship. However I fear we will not.
    Phillipines where I worked for some years was a classic family ruled country. It has evolved beyond. Malaysia, where I had a short assingment never went along that road, despite mahthir having absolute powers.
    Surely India should be a model for the world, nto the follower.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Why people fall into their old habit of calling everybody who supports Sonia G, rahul G and Digvinash G, PathakG?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    sab dance kareaga
    Rahul G ab maalik banega 1

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  • vijay !

    ~~ WHY NOT A SOHRABUDDIN TYPE ENQUIRY AGAINST SHEILA~
    . ====================================================
    As I understand, Sonia G, Digiviansh and Baby G have been crying “phoot phoot” kar for the past three years, after the Batla house terrorists were assasinated.

    When a killer, extortionist and murderer like Sohrabuddin was killed in Gujarat– everyone from the Congress president to Manish Tewary to Arundhati Roy jumped in to hold an enquiry against Modi.

    Since terrorists were aso killed in Batla house and Rahul G, and Sonia G beleive that they were innocents. why should not an enquiry be held against Shiela DIxit??

    Noboy… Nobody… Nobody… can answer this for me…. :) :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    HI Vijay
    This is a quick one as I actually logged in to check mail. Nice to know that this blog does nto sleep.
    Yes, you are right that the Batla house case is a true Perry mason story. On one side the Congress president, down to its lame horses always proclaim that the encounter was fake and then start crying for the terrorists.
    Should we not ask the Home Minister to hold an enquiry against the Delhi CM in the same manner Moid is being held guilty for the death of the terrorists in Gujarat?
    I would agree with you on this. And it does not require forensic analysis… just common sense.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, Vinoo,

    the Sonia brigade would have gladly “arranged” for a commission of inquiry, like Laloo arranged for the Godhra train burning. They would also have “arranged” for a tailor made report from the hand-picked commission.

    What they have, rather inconveniently and totally unexpectedly, encountered is a stumbling block called Chidambaram. He has stone-walled all cries for a commission of inquiry into the fake encounter that killed two freedom fighters.

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  • vijay !

    ~~BREAKING NEWS !!! GOOD NEWS FOR NAUKERS AND SLAVES !!! ~~
    ===========================================================

    Bhangra pao ji !! Bhangra Pao !! Salsa and Disco bhi chalega !!

    Shri Digviansh ji, one of the most popular characters on this blog has announced that RAHUL WILL NOW BE HANDED OVER THE CONGRESS PARTY ON A MUCH LARGER SCALE !!!

    Wah Wah !! Wah !! Kya inner party democracy hai !!
    Wha COngress Wah !!
    To all who dont beleive this
    read NDTV

    Bigger role for Rahul now, says Digvijaya
    Published On: June 23, 2012 | Duration: 1 min, 14 sec

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Mohan

    I seemed to have overlooked your response to my link about China.

    You know the situation there better than me.

    China being a authoritarian regime and every aspect of life is being tightly controlled by the state, it would is possible (and they must be doing it) for them to cook up figures to show everything about China is great and hunky-dory. There is no accountability.

    Contrast this with our country. All figures are reported as they are, of course, some might try to be economical with the truth (and they do) and hide some uncomfortable data, but not for long – ultimately the truth is there for all to see. RTI Act and CAG reports are some of the sources that help us to know the (grim) reality. This is possible only in a democratic set-up.

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  • Anonymous

    A boy to his sexily dressed girl friend ‘Darling, have some faith in men’s imagination, you don’t have to demonstrate’

    Good morning friends.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Who said men have imagination? If they had, they would not be in a mess they always are in.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Many times men choose the mess which calls for great imagination, like falling in love with a friend’s wife.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Friends wife or friends girl friend.

    Jutha tha wo dost jo kahta tha
    jaan bhi maango do de denge
    aaj wo apni girl griend ko
    jaan kahta hai aur maango
    to kamina gaaliyan deta hai

    Anonymous Reply:

    wah, Mohan,

    aap se yahi ummeed thi.

  • Anonymous

    Khushnaseeb woh nahin jiska naseeb acha hai balki
    Khushnaseeb woh hai Jo apne naseeb se khush hai.

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  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Hindu marriage ties non-Hindus in knots, couple gets HC wrap

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Hindu-marriage-ties-non-Hindus-in-knots-couple-gets-HC-wrap/articleshow/14366238.cms

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    manohar_T Reply:

    The touts and agents outside courts are the real culprits. However, the people getting married should take the basic precaution of cross checking, but then in this case it was a matter of hurry.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have no idea what is the law but does this means that if a hindu
    couple decides to get married in a church than will it not be
    considered as legal. ?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan
    Nothing about the original story rings true to me. It seems some one got hold of a bad Bollywood film script.

    The reality – this is my guess – is that every marriage is REGISTERED. The Registrar will accept certain Religious Ceremonies as legitimate and will register the marriage if such a ceremony had been performed.

    A court can not perform any Religious Ceremony only a priest can.

    So if two individuals – both non Hindu – manage to persuade a Hindu Priest to perform their marriage ceremony, then the law would consider them as Hindus and their marriage as legal.

    Now since they have – perhaps un-intentionally – become Hindus then the Divorce court will treat them as such.

    manohar_T Reply:

    To the best of my knowledge, the various marriage acts apply to couples belonging to the same particular religion (either by birth or by conversion).

    In other cases, there is The Special Marriage Act. However, under this act, the couple have to wait for 30 days after giving notice to the Registrar of Marriages of their intended marriage. The notice also needs to be published in the gazette and/or newspapers, inviting objections if any. One of them may already be married or awaiting divorce or one of them underage (having made a false declaration in the notice to the contrary) or there may be lot of other things.

    In this case, they must have been in a hurry for various reasons, so they choose the easier (but a wrong one) way out.

    Legal or not, that question will arise in case of divorce, succession, etc. If there is no problem or disputes between the husband and the wife, then I do not know if any question of legality would arise. Moreover, live-in relationships are legal in India.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks for the information.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Under the various acts a certificate of marriage issued to the couple and some entry in some register maintained by the Church or Mosque or Agiary, except perhaps marriages under The Hindu Marriage Act. In the latter case, any ‘priest’ (none are designated as such) can perform the marriage in any temple and may be in presence of some people (not mandatory, I think) – it is more about rituals and morality than anything else. Hence there is a provision = how many couples make use of it – I am not sure. However, it would be prudent to do so. NRIs can register such marriages in the Indian embassy.

    read on

    ==

    Under the Hindu Marriage Act:

    Parties to the marriage have to apply to the Registrar in whose jurisdiction the marriage is solemnised or to the Registrar in whose jurisdiction either party to the marriage has been residing at least for six months immediately preceding the date of marriage. Both the parties have to appear before the Registrar along with their parents or guardians or other witnesses within one month from the date of marriage. There is a provision for condonation of delay up to 5 years, by the Registrar, and thereafter by the District Registrar concerned.

    ==

    Any marriage already celebrated can also be registered under the Special Marriage Act after giving a public notice of 30 days, subject to conditions. However, as stated above, the bridegroom and the bride must have completed 21 years and 18 years of age respectively.

  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Shan

    In the earlier post re: Singur Land case, you responded –

    “let me remind you , THE SAME HIGH COURT had initially RULED IN FAVOUR OF THE GOVT IN A SINGLE BENCH, a year ago”

    What are you trying to prove and show? That the single judge is more wiser than the two judges! The Supreme Court will now decide who was.

    Common sense and established rules & procedures tells us that a judgment by a larger bench takes precedence over that of smaller bench or of single judge. The High Courts can override judgments of the lower courts.

    A judgment of the Supreme Court will override the judgment of the High Court (even if it is heard by a smaller bench than that of the High Court). A larger bench of the Supreme Court can also override the judgment of a smaller bench.

    To the best of my knowledge, the largest bench of the Supreme Court to hear a case, consisted of 13 Supreme Court judges.

    Kesavananda Bharati v. State of Kerala

    The case originated in March 1970 when Swami Kesavananda Bharati Sripadagalvaru, head of a monastery-like establishment in Kerala called a “muth”, challenged the Kerala government’s attempts, under two state land reform acts, to impose restrictions on the management of church property. Although the state invoked its authority under Article 31, a noted Indian jurist, Nanabhoy Palkhivala, convinced the Swami into fighting his petition under Article 29, concerning the right to manage religiously owned property without government interference. Even though the hearings consumed five months, the outcome would profoundly affect India’s democratic processes.

    The majority judgement – by seven judges of the thirteen-judge bench – overturned the anti-Parliament, anti-amendment rigidity of the Golak Nath decision (I.C. Golak Nath and Ors. vs. State of Punjab and Anr.); upheld the constitutionality of the Twenty-fourth and Twenty-fifth Amendments, and – most importantly – it also ruled that an amendment could not alter the basic structure of the Constitution.

    You have chosen not to respond to the query regarding I P Mukerji and I will leave it that.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Mamata gone more bonkers.

    Mamata to hit the streets against Singur verdict

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Kolkata/Mamata-to-hit-the-streets-against-Singur-verdict/Article1-877882.aspx

    Smarting from the Calcutta High Court punch that knocked out the Singur Land Rehabilitation and Development Act, West Bengal chief minister Mamata Banerjee, her party leaders, a section of intellectuals and a few small political parties met on Saturday to decide on a series of agitations to instill confidence among farmers.

    On Saturday, in a two-hour closed-door meeting at the Town Hall in Kolkata, a carefully drafted course of action was drawn up to take the fight forward politically.

    “On the one hand we will fight against the verdict in the Supreme Court and on the other we will conduct a series of agitations in Kolkata, the districts and at Singur to express solidarity with the farmers. All those present in the meeting are united to the cause of returning land to the unwilling farmers,” said Samir Putatunda of Party for Democratic Socialism, after emerging from the meeting.

    ==

    Does she think that by street agitations she will be able to influence the courts? She and her party better spend their time in doing something constructive. When will she learn that she is a Chief Minister and an administrator?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    She will lead agitation against whom ? The Calcutta High court ?
    Shan, Please Mamta Di ko samjhao.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The term “church” is misleading — Government s (including the “enlightened” Marxist govt of kerala ) will not touch waqf propertiess (except YSR in collusion with mullahs) or churches. They will take over only Hindu temples.
    Justice Ray who sided with the govt was made Chief Justice , bypassing three other judges… a great system was ruined; and the politicization will bring scoundrels like KG Balakrishnan (a section of the press and political parties still say KGBs fault was that he was born a dalit!)

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  • vijay !

    @ Mohan
    Let me tell you a fact you may already know. That as a HIndu, it is almost impossible to divorce– in India.

    The laws which have evolved are so foolish that bad marriages, violent marriages and marriages without sex and relationships CANNOT be dissolved unless both partners go to the courts, where lawyers misguide one of the partners and in the end it takes about 10 years of a big fight, in which all sort of wild allegations of dowry, in laws harrasment and what not are made.

    India should mature and allow an easy divorce in case there is no compatibility. I personally know of cases where a woman is having an extramarital affair but will not divorce her husband and instead level false charges which are punishable under a section 498, whre there is jail on a single complaint by a woman.

    Laws which were meant to protect a woman are now the biggest hurdle in happy marriages.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay.

    Even I have heard of stories about woman harassing man. I think this
    section 498 is draconian and should be toned down.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    A reasonable divorce in case of a failed marriage is a basic human right.
    Unfortunalately in the name of political correctness, it will never happen in India.

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  • Anonymous

    Air India pilots go on hunger strike

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Air-India-pilots-go-on-hunger-strike/articleshow/14369491.cms

    The strike on Sunday entered its 48-day and has reportedly caused a revenue loss
    of Rs 530 crores.

    More that 1 1/2 month and no solution yet. Does anybody care?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Let them die

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Bridge over troubled waters

    http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/energy-and-environment/article3563000.ece?homepage=true

    A new report on water sector options in the face of changing climate has called for fresh approach to studying alterations in the patterns of rainfall and snowfall, availability of surface and ground water and the existing water infrastructure.

    The report—Water Sector Options for India in a Changing Climate– laments the lack of studies in the country on the impact of climate change in the water sector, but at the same time is optimistic about the situation offering a `unique opportunity’ for revisiting the sector for better understanding, planning and management.

    ==

    Farmers should be encouraged to use practices that increase the carbon content in soil so that moisture is retained for longer periods, especially during gaps between rainfalls. The use of reservoir operations should be transparent, accountable and participatory to reduce the flood disaster potential during unforeseen changes in climate.

    ==

    The better option, the report points out, would be to create small, localised storages that can serve local communities and can be maintained by them. The country requires urgent action to protect existing groundwater recharge systems and to create more by saving every drop of rain where it falls.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There was never a “water shortgae” issue in my part of India ..However, in the last few years, wells have become dry in summer; with people depending on the neighbourtment five houses down etc.
    Like many government initiatives, Public Health Engg department has spent zillions onstorage/distribution; yet to see a drop …

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    manohar_T Reply:

    That is why I keep saying – leave such matters to the panchayats – make it their primary responsibility and accountability.

    The ministers and the bureaucrats ony know how to fight over rivers and dams.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    that is what I have been saying too–the fru—g constirtution divided Indians without dividing its waters and rivers…so much attention was given to classifying and subxlassifying special class and minoroties ; no attention was paid to whose water is it – India’s or Maharashtra’s?
    There will not be a California agriculture (I believe the largest agricultural economy in the world) but not for water from Colorado river..

  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Megalithic burial site found in Kadapa

    http://www.thehindu.com/arts/history-and-culture/article3565463.ece?homepage=true

    A megalithic burial site dating back to 500 BC was detected near Devandlapalli village in Rayavaram panchayat of Tsundupalle mandal in Kadapa district (AP).

    A study of megalithic culture in Kadapa district was initiated by Robert Bruce Foote and he reported the first megalithic habitation site in 1914 at Yellanur village, which was published in The Foote Collection of Indian Pre-Historic and Proto-historic antiquities catalogue raisonne by Madras Government Press.

    In archaeological explorations conducted by Associate Professor G. Sambasiva Reddy, Assistant Professor of History and Archaeology and Assistant Profesor of Geology K. Raghu Babu of Yogi Vemana University, a complex of 20 megalithic monuments were noticed and some of them were dolmens and remaining were dolmen encircles with slabs the left over monuments, dolmenoids-cists encircles with slabs.

    ==

    The exploration team appealed to District Collector V. Anil Kumar, officials of the State Archaeology and Hyderabad circle of Archaeological Survey of India to protect the megalithic monumental complex in Kadapa district for future generations.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Apathy, the disease

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/other-states/article3562996.ece?homepage=true

    Ranibai Vasave travelled for 45 kilometers from Shahada taluka to Nandurbar in March this year to confront officials in the district about the lack of basic heath facilities in her village. The 30-year-old adivasi woman was joined by many others who had gathered for the jan sunwai in this district in the northwest corner of Maharashtra. Their complaints ranged from the failure of funds meant for pregnant tribal women reaching their beneficiaries to the primary heath centre in the village not stocking medicines.

    ==

    The issue of vacant Class 1 posts of medical officers was one of the most prominent in the public hearing, and has been a major cause of concern in Maharashtra. In the district hospital in Nandurbar alone, there are 14 posts, whereas only four have been filled. This includes the post of a radiologist, which has been empty for more than year, Dr Hemantkumar Borse of the Nandurbar district hospital said.

    “The private radiologists in town flourish because of the lack of specialists in government hospitals,” he said. Entwined with this is the issue of government doctors practicing in their own private clinics. “This is illegal and merits criminal action. On one hand the doctors say they are overworked in government hospitals, and on the other, they run their business openly,” Dr Jadhav laments. At the public hearing, villagers are not scared to point at the government doctors, stating that they run private practices. “We want the doctors to stop their business and do their duty towards the people,” a villager said.

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  • Ravi

    ‘Secular PM’ comments are being made for vote-bank politics: RSS

    Of course the following are N O T done in service of V O T E B A N K politics.

    1.To perpetually create, foster and foment communal tension. Which the RSS does.

    2.To deliberately use RELIGIOUS symbols – Rath Yatra – in pursuit of Vote Banks. Which the BJP does.

    3.To Plan, Provoke and Execute COMMUNAL RIOTS to frighten Hindus into the Snagh fold.

    4.To perpetually describe Minorities as Vote Bank but never acknowledge
    the L U N G A Y A T S are also a Vote Bank who a few years ago changed their allegiance from Congress to the BJP.

    In India every one practices VOTE BANK politics Congress is not alone,
    and the RSS /BJP Combo are also in the thick of it.

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Secular-PM-comments-are-being-made-for-vote-bank-politics-RSS/Article1-878003.aspx

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Fake Ravi,

    you have taken your hatred for Hindus tom the extreme by calling Lingayats as LUNGAYATS.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Muslims and certain caste/subcaste of Hindus are considered permanent vote banks by Congress since Shrimathi Indira Priyadarshini Gandhi’s days. The vote banks are maintained, but as recent elections have shown, they (vote banks) have not reciprocated well to Congress because other appeasors such as Samajwad are proomising even more.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Very true Mr Thomas.
    The point I am making is that the practice of Vote Bank Politics in India is universal, and not just restricted to Congress.
    However, the RSS and the BJP want us to believe as if it is ONLY practiced by Congress.

    If Congress appeases minorities in exchange for votes, then the RSS frightens them into voting for the BJP.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And Congress wants us to believe that they are secular and BJP is communal.
    i

    Ravi Reply:

    And that is absolutely true.

    The constitution of Congress is SECULAR. However, in practice that may be implemented imperfectly. That may make them hypocrite but not communal.

    Whereas the BJP Constitution is HINDU, its policies are HINDU, its ideological basis is not liberal Hindu but a more conservative and regressive form of MANUFACTURED
    HINDUATVA.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Can you provide the link where I can read the Constitution
    of BJP.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    the original Hindu constitution of the BJP was lost during the 1971 war and is now only with this fake Ravi, the jihadi. What is now available is the secular constitution of the BJP.

    Ravi Reply:

    Read it at their site, listen to its leaders. Its ideological guru is the RSS

    AshishC Reply:

    http://www.bjp.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=135&Itemid=547

    But, don’t read it on your own- you lack the ability to understand the hidden meanings:-) Let Ravi guide you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish,

    Thanks for the advise, I will not bother to read. Let Ravi
    tell me what is written and he will also not bother to read as
    I am sure he knows every word written by heart.

    Ravi Reply:

    Happy to oblige. Mohan is not beyond the pail as many others here are.

    AshishC Reply:

    As left handed compliments go, that takes the cake- the BJP is not hypocritical.

    AshishC Reply:

    Ravi,
    Why do you persist in calling the Lingayats, Lungayats? Unhone aapka kya bigada?
    Surely you can rise above this kind of petty name calling? I have not seen anyone calling you a Sick as a twisted reference to your religion, have you?
    Now for your 1, 2, 3, 4..
    1. Opinion. Stated ad nauseum; becomes belief. Not fact.
    2. Heard of Ram Rajya? Or Khilafat? That was universal symbolism, eh? Or, is it that, “Others abide our criticism, Gandhi art free”.
    3. Hmmmmm… again, to frighten 87% of population to join the “sangh fold”- against 13%. I have no great admiration for the intelligence of the RSS; but, surely they are not that dumb?
    4. Minorities are a vote bank- described thus or not. Juxtaposing Lingayats in the context is,.. well, let’s say, there are others as well that are picking up their jaws from the floor.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Ashish
    I could rise above anything. However, the general atmosphere here is of a kind and I am being compliant.
    Lungayat is Hindi version of the Sanskrit Lingayat
    As for the rest, I will respond on my return from food shopping trip into town.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Ashish

    “I have no great admiration for the intelligence of the RSS; but, surely they are not that dumb|?

    They are dumb to a large extent, no doubt.

    Persisting and attempting to sell expired goods (with very unattractive packaging) on the basis of suspect marketing strategy – Anna Hazare’s Campaign for one and highlighting the defects of the a third class competitive product, but silent about its own. Targeting a populace that does not like the taste (and with horrible side-effects) anymore, is another. Already, the product is not kosher or halal to 20% of the market, blame it on the poster boy. Over the years, commission agents and distributors have stopped peddling the goods, hence unable to reach big regions of the market – today they have about 4 left and as of today they are not being very co-operative either.

    They are in need of a comprehensive market research and come up with a product having a more universal appeal and acceptance.
    ==

    Look at the irony. To get enough seats on its own, the BJP needs a big chunk of the secular vote. The question is why has it created such a situation and ‘forced’ to pretend what they are not? is that not hypocrisy?

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Part II

    They are dumb to large extent.

    They were and are banking on selling poisoned drink in one area in the hope that the a vast majority will move to another area, where everybody is addicted to ’somras’ and the newcomers also would .

    AshishC Reply:

    Manohar,
    sorry; dunno how I missed this one.
    Someone needs to pass the ball to you to score; BJP does not have a centre forward who the half-line is happy feeding.
    However, their best bet is still Modi- they need to win at least 220+ seats on their own in order to be credible. With 220+ seats- they can overcome a lot of objections, including from their allies.
    Navin, Nitish, Naidu may not like BJP or Modi or both; but they like Congress even less. End of the day, politics is a winner take all game.

  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Sad news

    The rescue operation ends in tragedy.

    Mahi has been declared dead after being pulled out of the borewell.

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    Ravi Reply:

    God bless Mahi’s soul

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, at least, this time the government tried!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Very sad. My wife was following this news since last three days .

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  • Anonymous

    “I would be the last one to know what is happening,’’ he remarked to me. “There is a core group which is the inner circle, then a buffer

    group, then a duffer group and finally a loafer group. I belong to the last category.’’-Digvinash Singh.

    On her Facebook campaign for Kalam as president, the TMC chief claimed she was a victim of Machiavellian politics. In a meeting with party MLAs and MPs, she referred to the “Italian mafia’’.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/no-duffer-no-buffer/965969/0

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Very funny situation in congress party.

    One general secretary is a duffer and the other is a laofer (self-admitted).

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    Loafer aur duffer ki hai jodi ajeeb
    Sajani amir… sajaan gareeb !!!

    Both dont own a car !

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Mamata on whose support the government works and is part of the UPA has seen the Italian mafia. That is what I told Pathak G that we need to watch out that we should not be taken over by a foreign mafiosi….

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Italian mafia has been cleaned up for most part. May be Dr Shan can give some colour on mafia based on his recent visit to Milan.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The last remnants of the decimated mafia have taken refuge in 10 Janpath.

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  • Ravi

    Ashish

    I am sure you expect me to address every single point that you raise. So here I will. To make it readable I will include your original text in italics and my response in normal text.

    Why do you persist in calling the Lingayats, Lungayats? Unhone aapka kya bigada? There are three reasons for this.

    1 – Gopi Thomas and others have repeatedly accused the Muslims of acting as anti-Hindu VOTE BANK. Gopi has on more than one occasion, like a returning officer, counted the number districts, towns and muhallahs where the election results were sufficiently close, that had the Muslim Vote been distributed evenly among all the candidates, then his preferred candidate would have won. That actually could be said about many many more Hindu and other minority groupings (caste, community, etc) than it could be said of Muslims. Yet Gopi and others without fail use the term Vote Bank in reference to Muslims but never ever in reference to any other groupings. To counter this, I point out the voting pattern of Lingayats and point to their role in changing the regime in Karnataka from Congress to the BJP and the recent threats issued by Yedurappa to the BJP. Lingayats are his power base and he can and does deliver them as a Vote Bank.

    2 – I use Lungayats, so that I can add ballast to already stench saturated nose of B. V. Shenoy. You know why I wish to do that. This pathological liar, communal to core, illiberal to the last sinew in his body, attacks me and I often fail to over-come my basic instinct to retaliate.

    Surely you can rise above this kind of petty name calling? I have not seen anyone calling you a Sick as a twisted reference to your religion, have you

    3 – Lingayats have बिगाड़ा nothing of mine. I have not knowingly met any one from that community. They were chosen for the above two reasons. Sure I can, and more often than not, do rise above petty name calling but there is a limit to my low threshold of tollernece of lies, and irrational abuse against me. I know मुरीदके just as much as I know जलपाईगुड़ी – which is not at all. However the conjugal pairing of Raja and Rani of this blog have accorded me the FREEDOM of मुरीदके and a holiday appartment in Tora Bora. No one but no one has had the moral courage to stand against this type of abuse. So I do it myself.

    ++++


    Opinion. Stated ad nauseum; becomes belief. Not fact.

    Belief and Fact – Even Quantum Physics is based upon an unshakable but reasonably held belief rather than a scientifically proven fact. The belief that RSS is an organisation that repeatedly causes communal tension to achieve its political objectives is VERY widely held belief. I could name many eminent writers and analysts who hold this belief, but you have
    already dismissed all such writers as – JNU Types, purveyors of Victimhood, others have objected to their Shavet Lingham, Jewishness, post-colonial imperialism, etc. I sent you a link where some historians have pointed out that formation of the RSS itself is based on a belief that for centuries Hindus have been the victims of aggression both from without and from within the country because their religion.

    2 Heard of Ram Rajya? Or Khilafat? That was universal symbolism, eh? Or, is it that, “Others abide our criticism, Gandhi art free”.

    Not sure what point you are trying to make. The use of Rath Yatra is nowhere comparable to Khilafat/Umma/Ram Rajya. Each of these are romantic constructs of the over excited religious fundos.

    3. Hmmmmm… again, to frighten 87% of population to join the “sangh fold”- against 13%. I have no great admiration for the intelligence of the RSS; but, surely they are not that dumb?

    Once again I can quote many many writers and analysts who will point to the strategy OTHERING used by the RSS of; Muslims are re-producing at such a fast rate that soon India will be a Muslimn Nation. Creating and spreading rumours, Milk has been poisoned by Muslims, look at these dead dogs and in the case of Ahmedabad a dead cat. These rumours start circulation in preparation for the riot to come. Hindu women in particular become afraid and have even been known to stop sleeping (Read Indians – Portrait of a People, by Sudhir Kakar and Katharina Kakar).

    So my friend RSS may try to frighten 87% of our population in order to gain perhaps no more than 10% recruits. Similar techniques are used by other communal organisations in India as well as in Pakistan, LeT readily comes to mind.


    4. Minorities are a vote bank- described thus or not. Juxtaposing Lingayats in
    the context is,.. well, let’s say, there are others as well that are picking up
    their jaws from the floor.

    The entire population of India can be divided into various “Vote Banks” some more visible and practicing herd mentality, than others. For as long you continue to believe that O N L Y minorities form Vote Banks and that Lingayats are not a Vote Bank then I am afraid Jaws and Floors will remain on collision course.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A million bytes signifying nothing but hatred for Hindus and attempt to hide your own Islamic fundoo-ness.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Oh no, no.

    I never said Muslim voting block voting as anti-Hindu voting block.
    What I said was, based on actual voting results of kerala assembly elections in 2011, Muslims voted as a block for Muslim League or where they did not contest for their coalition partner Congress/Kerala congress.

    And it is true that had they distributed votes, leftist paties would have won many more seats, for the margin of victory for UDF in many seats was less than 3000 votes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    also, Muslim reproductive rates is significantly higher — it is a statistical fact; nothing to do with othering.
    For example, keraa overall population growth according o last census was 4.8% ; howevr, malappuram, 85% Muslim district had a 16% growth…

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Gopi;
    only a couple of years back, Gaddafi proclaimed that muslims have conquered Europe, by population growth, not raising any attack, whatsoever. so that is the mental make up of these regressives.

    AshishC Reply:

    Ravi,
    sorry for the late reply. Life is hectic, outside the blog. I try to resist visiting the blog for the same reason- once you respond, then I owe you the courtesy of a response.
    Your point about Lingayats being used as a vote bank is conceded; I will again concede, without your having to make it- the other vote banks of Yadav, Kurmi, Brahmin etc that we see in the Hindi-heartland. This is what Mandalisation of our politics has delivered.
    But, I still maintain the use of religious identities to consolidate votes pre-dates any of these Mandalized identities. And, only one religion is used to do that- that is Islan, in India. A cynical politics that reached its apogee in the Shah Bano Case and before that having conceded to AIMPLB and assorted clergy the right to legislate and pontificate on all matters pertaining to the Muslims. This sort of “othering” is even more dangerous- because for one it draws a line around a religious community and assigns their leadership to a bunch of fools. Secondly, it cements a role of religion in politics- quite contrary to the ideals of this country.
    I contend, that because of pursuing these politics, the Congress has hurt the Muslims in India. And, it has shown again and again that it is the most cynical of mainstream parties in pursuing the agenda of power at any cost. I am old enough to remember its misadventures in Punjab.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Ashish

    As expected from you – an excellent response.

    My come back will be……my exemplifying Lingayats was purely by way of illustrating that other vote banks besides the Muslims exist.

    As regards to the policies of Congress wrt to Muslim, I will not contradict you. These are times when Congress a National Party with deep roots and very colourful past is losing out to secular regional parties. This has led it to adopt – mistakenly – some policies which are little more than naked appeasement. I will concede that.

    However, that said let us not throw the baby of positive discrimination out with the appeasement water. I will sooner work to better target the +ve discrimination policies than to replace it with free for all, which will effetely disenfranchise those that have been deliberately dis-advantaged for centuries.

    It is a pleasure discussing with you.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashsih,

    I almost lost your this very good reply to Ravi. Would you please next time
    start from the top when you respond to any one.

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    AshishC Reply:

    Arre, sir..
    I am a Disqus man; I follow a handful of people and as you know, Disqus only allows you to respond and not start a thread.
    I start a thread only when I go to the blog- these days, infrequently.

  • Anonymous

    Ravi-
    Do not understand your constant anti-Hindu attacks. I do not care whether you are Pakistani, Indian Muslim, or as you say Mona Sikh; your constant barking shows either 1) you or your family were inflicted deep wounds by Hindus or 2) you have been programmed by somebody to emit constant hatred.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The second is the correct reason for his constant Hindu baiting and Hindu bashing. His is a perverted mind.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    ShoebK

    Very strange indeed.

    I have noted that you have always taken offence when the RSS’ brand of Hinduism is under the scanner, but you have always failed to take exception to the attacks on your ‘own’ religion – Islam, which goes on here day in and day out.

    My understanding is that a person would be sensitive equally (or not at all) to all the religions, especially not exclude his own.

    Am I missing something?

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    Ravi Reply:

    He craves acceptability.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Like you crave acceptibility from Hafeez :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are missing sense, because your post is full of non-sense.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Shoeb
    I react to constant Muslim Bashing by your friends.
    Rest I am happy for you to imagine anything that makes you happy.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Shoeb
    This Ravi Osama is on dole from ISI to damage India. He, Ram autar, Tajendra, Engirch are one and the same person using different names to hurt India and Indian secularism.
    We should study his brain… to understand the depth a person can fall to !!
    Would love to hear of more tech initiatives in the US… as you keep informing us about…

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  • vijay !

    I think Chacha Hafeez Saeed dictated a note …whch Ravi Osama penned with Engirch’s pen !!

    Arre baba dole lena hai toh… RAW ka double agent ban jao!!

    With these happy thoughts… and a smile I proceed to go out wth my friends… in a semi beer induced laziness… to do the most ordinary of things, whcih many of us have nto done for a long time….

    An icecream at India Gate… to beat the heat, as we did in school days !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Bangalore has salubrious weather. We had kachoris at home for tea.

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  • Anonymous

    Economy is going to be in severe tailspin; nobody seems to do anything; MMS and Montek talk about it…talk is cheap,.

    what is the opinion of people on this forum about the possibility of Rengarajan as the FM – my gut is that he willbe 100 times better than Pranab.. the issue is the depth of the problems where even a Rengarajan cannot fix

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    let us honestly accept the fact that Pranab da is no great economist, his pretensions to the contrary notwithstanding. Rangarajan is widely rumoured to be the favoured guy to sit in the hottest seat in the cabinet.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Kerala is country’s most crime-prone state, NCRB statistics show

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Kerala-is-countrys-most-crime-prone-state-NCRB-statistics-show/articleshow/14364473.cms

    These are one set of statistics Kerala will not be proud to own up to: God’s own country, and not the badlands of north India, is the most crime-prone state, ahead of Uttar Pradesh and even Delhi.

    The latest National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) figures comparing incidents of crime with the population of a state, notes Kerala is most affected by crime and Kochi is the most dangerous city. Figures compiled till 2010 show that Kerala has a crime rate of 424.1, more than double the national average of 187.6.

    Kochi’s crime rate is even scarier at 1,879.8 compared to most cities, where the figure averages 341.9.

    [Reply]

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ofcourse, state being ruled by Muslim League in cahoot with congress, what else you expected. Try to take district wise stats, they may be revealing as well.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    there is no doubt that the state has been criminalised by the fundamentalist Muslims in cahoots with the Marxists and the congressi opportunists in turn.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Pankaj

    What got over you? I always thought you were a very careful man.

    The figures quoted above are related up to the year 2010. Can you reconcile that with what you have written?

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    I was not taking ON you. believe it. but that is what I have been reading lately, severance of hand, murders etc, many on communal lines and majority perpetrated by muslims. You know, i am not anti muslims per say. i am equally against any excesses done by goons of any community. try to understand my point. by your stance, you now look like condoning excess by one community and excessively condemning others.

    manohar_T Reply:

    I do know that you were not taking me on. I was a bit surprised that is all. I am here to debate. In a short while, please see my reply to Gopi, where I intend to discuss the problem seriously from social and not solely from political angles.

    Anonymous Reply:

    There has been several political murders , the most recent one being of Mr Chandrasekharan, who left Marxist party two years ago.. The CPM will split/diminish based on what the investigation results are – for now, evewrything points to Marxist party leaders (Vijayan faction) who arranged for the murder.
    There has been acive “quotation”" groups rupees for a hand, y rupees for a leg, z rupees for murder etc. Most political parties use their services.
    There have been severl cases of attacks/stealing/killing of old people/women living alone – with their children /husbands etc away abroad on job.
    Other than these I do not think there is a wave.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Gopi

    Being at ground zero, what could be the reasons for Kerala becoming the crime capital of India?

    1) Unemployment

    2) Oversupply of petro dollars (they have been there since the 70s) resulting in income disparities (the haves and the have nots)

    3) To what extent political parties and the law & order machinery be held responsible?

    4) Any other?

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Why we should FEEL proud about Gujarat.
    1. Most electricity produced-30337 MW.
    2. Most wind Energy produced-100.50 MW.
    3. maximum refining of crude oil- 50% of Indian refining.
    4. Most of pharma production-45% of India.
    5. Most of the CNG handled.
    6. Most functioning Sea ports- 41
    7. Most Airports- 11
    8. Most SEZs- 18.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Just imagine if all states were like gujrat…poverty minmization/elimination, ample power etc are the foundational pillars for a prospering india,

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    Ravi Reply:

    All..
    Third worst Riot Ever was the Gujarat 2002 Riot

    In February 2002, allegedly a Muslim mob attacked and burned a train.

    As a result, 58 Hindu pilgrims – mostly women and children in a ladies compartment returning from Ayodhya – were killed.

    The attack prompted retaliatory massacres against Muslims, and communal riots on a large scale, in which 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus were killed, and 223 more people were reported missing.

    In addition to that, 523 places of worship were damaged: 298 dargahs, 205 mosques, 17 temples and 3 churches.

    Muslim-owned businesses suffered the bulk of the damage. 61,000 Muslims and 10,000 Hindus fled their homes.

    It was some of the worst rioting ever seen in India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    so what is your point -
    Gujrat has been the most peaceful state since the 2002 riots -

    Ravi Reply:

    Small comfort and no excuse for using Riot as a matter of policy.
    Many places in India have been perfectly peaceful without resorting to Riots to achieve that peace.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You mean to say Gujarat has no right to grow and prosper because of the riots which unfortunately happened ten
    years back.

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan
    Not at all. Happy for it to grow and prosper.
    But while we are counting Mr Modi’s achievemnts then let us not ignore the more imprtant negative ones. They describe the man just as much as growth does.

    Anonymous Reply:

    For that there are cases in the court and if found guilty he
    will be punished accordingly. You repeating again and again
    will not make him guilty.

    Ravi Reply:

    And the oft repeated growth statistics in Gujarat would not make it heavenly either.

    Anonymous Reply:

    There is no place on the earth which you can call as heaven.
    Because of your bias you are just not able to digest anything
    good coming out of Gujarat. I have always noted that when
    ever anything good is written about Gujarat you come up with same old story of this so called state sponsered riots.
    Before any judgement by Indian courts you have already declared Modi as a mass murderer. One has to go stay in
    Gujarat for few months and interact with people from all
    the spheres of life than only one will know what real Gujarat is. Reading few biased articles and your own biased views
    will not make it a hell as you keep on trying to prove.
    You and many people have compared repeatedly Modi
    with Hitler. After more than 65 years of the death of Hitler
    show me one Jew who has anything good to say about him.
    However, try speaking to Muslims in Gujarat and you will find
    lakhs of Muslims who will constantly praise Modi because
    his policies has brought prosperity for them.

    Ravi Reply:

    Just as your digestion system is totally unable to digest any negative truths about Modi.
    You devotion whilst being admirable is misplaced.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I have and can digest anything written against Modi.
    From all the people who praise Modi, only I have written
    something against him on this blog. It is you who keep on
    repeating what Teestas, Sarabais, Coongress leaders
    and biased media has been doing since last 10 years.
    The only reason behind this can be that you are not able to
    digest success of Gujarat as if this state is not part of India.

    Ravi Reply:

    Gujarat is not a problem.
    Modi and his RSS agenda is.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashsih correctly said :

    . Opinion. Stated ad nauseum; becomes belief. Not fact.

    Ravi Reply:

    I am happy to live with my belief.

    I am not alone. Almost all religions are little more than belief systems.

    Growth statistics oft repeated only go to sweep under the carpet real issues that you would rather we ignored.

    Anonymous Reply:

    False propaganda against Modi oft repeated only go to sweep under the carpet the real growth and prosperity
    of Gujarat that you would rather we ignored.

    Ravi Reply:

    आओ ट्विस्ट करें

    Look at the top of this thread.

    I did not contradict any achievements in the list.

    Just added to the balance sheet some liabilities.

    enrich Reply:

    a murderer should not be punished because of growth is against rules of law and justice.modi is project brhmnsm like anna.

    Anonymous Reply:

    so what is your point -
    Gujrat has been the most peaceful state since the 2002 riots.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The worst riot in India happened in 1984 in Delhi and surrounding areas. More than 4000 innocent Sikh men, women and even children were massacred, and many more thousands maimed and houses and property burnt and looted.

    AND THIS HAPPENED UNDER THE WATCHFUL EYES OF THE DELHI POLICE, INDIAN ARMY AND CRPF, ALL UNDER ORDERS FROM PRIME MINISTER RAJIV GANDHI NOT TO RAISE ONE FINGER FOR THREE DAYS, TILL THE SIKHS ARE TAUGHT A LESSON.

    engrich Reply:

    rss was also involved in this mascare,though supported by some rss minded congressite.teach them a lesson was part of rss song.

    engrich Reply:

    riot of 1969 was equally bad.only thing that now we have electronic media.58 low caste ladies and their spouses were burnt alive by brhmn vhp to provide reason for riot which was neccessary to win election.even a brhmn opponent hiren pandaya was not spared.his father blamed modi and rss for his murder.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Concrete vs Humans (Take your pick)

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/true-lies/entry/insecure-central-ministers-vs-uneasy-gujarat-babus

    Repeat.

    Excerpt

    During an internal meeting, a top state bureaucrat, JS Rana, stunned Modi in his three minute presentation. He flashed a map of Gujarat, saying, “Do you see the green in the corner? That is Porbandar. Except this district, malnutrition levels for some strange reason are very high in most of other districts.” The figures he handed over spoke for themselves. Except Porbandar, where it was 35 per cent, malnutrition in most other districts was “around 50 per cent”, he said, adding, “The situation in the tribal areas is worse, followed by other parts.” He commented that Vibrant Gujarat propaganda would have “no meaning” unless one addressed this problem.

    ==

    I like word used by the bureaucrat – propaganda – and that is precisely what has been going on.

    ==

    http://www.indiadevelopmentblog.com/2011/02/gujarat-and-rhetoric-of-development.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Since nothing concrete is being found against Modi and Gujarat,
    now this new propaganda of Malnutrition has started.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    MOHAN,

    next will be starvation deaths in Gujarat and a complaint to the chief Ayatollah in Mecca, the pope in Vatican under copies to Obama and Manmohan Singh(?).

    Anonymous Reply:

    If nothing concrete has been found, even cement slurry would do for these trolls to attack Modi.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Is malnutrition not a very serious problem?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Malnutrition is whole India problem, but somehow Media
    only finds fault with Gujarat and the only reason is Modi.

    manohar_T Reply:

    No body has ever denied that malnutrition is not a country-wide problem. The fact is the levels in Gujarat are below the national average.

    The issue is Modi’s propaganda machinery. Pankaj’s post is exactly that. Hide disconcerting facts and figures and selectively tom-tom – look, what a great chief minister I am, blah, blah, blah.

    Vibrant Gujarat – this must be really rattling the bones of the malnourished population, what with all that vibrations.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Are you not doing the same thing. Pointing out malnutrition
    and ignoring other good things happening in Gujarat. Yes,
    Gujarat like any other state of India is not perfect but under
    Modi it has improved and prospered better than its counterparts. The problem is that only this state is selectively
    being critisized by the biased media of our country. That is
    why I keep on repeating that Modi should claim royalty from
    many journalists for keeping them in business.

    manohar_T Reply:

    1) Why should I repeat what Modi is already doing it.

    My approach towards progress and development is from human angle first, everything else is secondary.

    I also posted a link below about healthcare problems in Maharashtra earlier here. Apathy, the disease and not about how many skyscapers are there in Bombay..

    2) “prospered better than its counterparts”.

    That is debatable. Many links earlier have shown that many states growing faster. Let me repeat Gujarat ranking has gone up from 7th to 5th in 10 years of Modi raj – no big deal. Other states are not sleeping.

    The issue remains – Modi’’s propaganda juggernaut.

    Royalty! By all means.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    bhai Manohar;
    fail to understand that, what I am saying about gujrat is propaganda? Are those figures wrong?? are they being manipulated, you can question those figures and make mince meat of those figures, but if some body is pointing out those figures, how it has become propaganda?? And your opposition that nothing good about Gujrat is to printed, told or viewed. what kind of liberalism you are using. I will say, this is worst form of fascism, when you want to praise select people and denounce achievements of others. Strange indeed.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Who is denying that Gujarat is not progressing and it would – Modi or no Modi. So are other states.

    The problem is the many claims made by him and his PR machinery that are questionable. Plus he has tended to brush the negatives under the carpet or using questionable parameters – MOUs as a yardstick about investments and going to town. The actual investments are a small fraction of it – which he does not talk about.

    Just one example.

    The impression is being created (by his juggernaut) around whatever Gujarat is because of him alone. Take for example about power – it has been a boast that 19000 odd villages have electric power and most important solely due to his efforts. it is conveniently forgotten to mention that by 2001, 18000 odd villages were already had electricity. Adding 1000 villages in 11 years is no big deal.

    == Repeat link

    Electricity-surplus Gujarat not so ‘power-full’, finds census
    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/electricitysurplus-gujarat-not-so-powerfull-finds-census/933150/0

    The housing data of the census points out that there are over 11 lakh residences that do not use electricity in a state that has a power generation capacity of over 14,000 MW (mega watt) and claims to have 2,000 MW of surplus power.
    ==
    Without power to over million households, it is very easy to supply 24 hours to the rest. Is it not?

    ==

    Here is another extract from another report (repeated) and see the reason given out – not enough sub-stations.

    “In 2000-01, the state’s farmers were supplied with 15,489 MUs of power, while in 2010-11, the total supply of power to the farmers went down to 13,285 MUs. While the state government claims that it has provided large number of new connections this year, more than any time in the past, one fails to understand why the farmers failed to get enough power.”

    To a question by Anil Joshiara, a legislator from Bhiloda in north Gujarat, whether the state government proposes to increase the quantity of power given to the farmers from the current eight hours a day, because it has surplus power, and stop selling it to other states, the minister replied, “We do not have enough sub-stations.”

    ==

    Latest CAG report on hanky-panky in Gujarat is a damning one. The link was posted perhaps a month ago. Google and find out.

    ==

    The point is that he and his team have been economical with the truth and not everything is divulged as it suits them – to give the impression that what a fantastic CM he is. He has always been silent on human development indices.

    Nitish – vs – Modi. Time will tell who is more acceptable.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    Again it is your prejudice than facts which are speaking. let us take your argument point wise.
    who is denying…. wow, here the point to ponder is, whether modi is present or not. You want to give credit of Rao years to Sonia years, bbut actual modi years, not to Modi? beat a logical mind. So if you feel that his PR or he himself is telling lies, tear apart their statements with your facts, why do you expect modi alone , in the whole pantheon of indian politicias to highlight his shortcomings?? Every government wants to highlight its achievements. Give me only one CM, who highlight its governmental failures. As far as, Modi blowing his trumpet, nothing wrong with that, as Churchill said, no wonder he is modest ( other CMS), he( Other CMS) has all reason to be modest. The litmus test is, whether he is getting highest FDI or investment in Gujrat or not? That is the point to be uncovered. will you please provide me the link/ source, which says that during Modi era of 11 years only 1000 villages were electrified and 18000 villages were electrified, exclusively during congress rule. let me have this link.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    manohar;
    The reply was getting longer, hence second para.
    Modi never claimed that he has supplied electricity to every home. he can not, Power is available, is the purchasing capacity or will or wherewithal available with all the people. Again, his is not the populist government, or Tamasha government. Facility is available and now go and get it on your own, as others have done. ypou have repeated it umpteen number of times- there is noything like free lunch-.
    We do not…. Hey, modi government is supplying 8 hour’s power to farmers everyday??? Compare it with other states please, and let us know about their status.
    This CAG report is sacred, other CAG reports which condemn central government are to be trashed by manohar and media? Double standards or trblestandards or what. Tum karo to rass….
    Nitish versus modi???
    beg your pardon, nitish government is running with BJP’s help. period. Nitish is acutely casteist, Period. he is good manipulator of caste arithmatic, better than lalu and Paswan.period. he is better than both Narpungavs.period. Modi may be a good manipulator of religion, Period. So you love Nitish and Hate Modi?? why?

    manohar_T Reply:

    If you think I practice double standards, be my guest. There is nothing I can do about it.

    I have provided enough links to prove my points. For more, please Google yourself.

    The only objections I (and many others) have had with the CAG reports is the calculations of presumptive losses in certain reports. The latest CAG report on Gujarat does not talk of presumptive losses.

    Just as you have all the right to admire Modi, I have as much right not to be his admirer (I do not hate him, otherwise I may have abused him and indulged in petty name twisting). He has a lot to answer for 2002 and he hasn’t, that is why I would not like him to be PM. My preference would be for Nitish and many other leaders (including two from the BJP) over Modi – any day.

    Nitish does not need the BJP anymore in Bihar (and not the other way around), he is only 5 short of majority of his own and that would be no task to rustle them up. Call him opportunistic if you wish. Why do you think Nitish has been flexing his muscles and taking on Modi and the BJP? There is a talk going around that some senior leaders of the BJP are targeting Modi using Nitish’s cannons.

    While we are at it. Here is a statistic for Modi ‘bhakts’ to ponder.

    In 2009 elections, Modi campaigned in 300 constituencies and the BJP won a measly 25. What a pathetic strike rate! He was made BJP’s campaign manager in Maharashtra tpp and that was a disaster too. Talk about his acceptability (rather non-acceptability) outside of Gujarat and his fan(atic)s want him to be the PM, huh! Let the BJP get 273+ seats first on its own and then we will talk.

    Here is the link

    Split Wide open

    http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?281390

    manohar_T Reply:

    I am not quoting facts and figures out of the hat. I have provided you the links. Accept them or reject them – your problem – not mine.

    I did not say he was lying – I said economical with the truth, hiding uncomfortable data and using dubious benchmarks (MOUs for example).

    Your bringing in other CMs would only show he is no different from them. I take their PR machinery also with a pinch of salt, if there is evidence to the contrary. Lately, the TMC in West Bengal has been making some ‘tall’ claims about investments in the state. We will wait for actual figures when they are known.

    I can provide the links about 18000 villages. On the other hand, only a gullible person would believe that before 2001 no Gujarat village had power. These 18000 villages got electricity connections under the administrations of various CMs belonging to the Congress and the BJP. I did not say anything to exclude the latter – the BJP is the ruling party in Gujarat since 1995. Remember the business of Gujarat and Gujaratis is business (ask Mohan)..

    FDI

    http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_fdi-inflows-in-gujarat-up-cross-1billion-mark_1693918

    The state received FDI of slightly more than $1 billion (Rs4,730 crore) in 2011-12, significantly higher than FDI inflows of $724 million (Rs3,294 crore) in the previous year and $807 million (Rs3,876 crore) in 2009-10.

    In the process, the state also improved its rank in attracting FDI from the sixth in the country in 2010-11 to fifth in 2011-12.

    ==

    According to the statistics released by the ministry, Maharashtra remained the hottest destination for foreign investors with FDI of $9.55 billion (Rs44,664 crore) in 2011-12, i.e. more than one-fourth of the total inflows.

    Maharashtra was followed by Delhi, which accounted for $7.98 billion (Rs37,403 crore) worth of FDI, i.e. 21% of the total inflows.

    Karnataka and Tamil Nadu ranked third and fourth among states with the highest FDI during the year with inflows of $1.53 billion (Rs7,235 crore) and $ 1.42 billion (Rs6,711 crore) respectively.

    ==

    Compare 1 billion with Mahrashtra’s 9.55 billion (nearly 10 times more). It has a lot of catching up to do.

    So all that boasts about Gujarat no. 1 in this, no. 1 in that have to be taken with a large pinch of salt and chillies.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    manohar;
    Malnutrition is a national problem. maharashtr’s Malegaon may be the top spot for malnutrition, may be in excess of 45%. Malnutrition has not suddenly developed, it takes decades and centuries of neglect and deprivation and also takes decads and centuries to overcome it. Please do not be selective in your approach. BTW, have you heard about education initiatives from Gujrat? unique, one of its kind in country. prosperous stte only can have wherewithal to provide. It has no prining currency option available to it.

    manohar_T Reply:

    I only opened another window for you to see, though I cannot force you to look.

    Also see my reply to Mohan below.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    manohar;
    I still condemn modi for not looking after displaced persons, irrespective of religion. i also feel he is lacking in social skills and/ or social consciousness, but there are no peers to him in present lilieu. may be Nitish is in same mould, but even he is no match for him. That is my opinion, yours ,may be different, and I am ok with that.

  • pankaj#1

    Mahi lost battle of Life.
    shattered.

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  • Anonymous

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    Husband: Sukitaki.
    Wife replies: Kowanini!!
    Husband says: Toka a anji rodi roumi yakoo!

    Wife on her knees literally begging: Mimi nakoundinda tinkouji!
    Husband replies angrily: Na miaou kina tim kouji!

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    You are unbelievable… I always knew you will try to read anything on SEX!!! X_X ;) =))

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    vijay ! Reply:

    gr8 joke…. tempting me to pick up another beer before I sleep…

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  • Anonymous

    My earlier joke was not appreciated by anyone so I will post a
    Pure Vegeterian Joke.

    Husband : Dekho mein tumhare liye mooli, gajar, kakdi, karela, or
    kele laya hu .

    Wife : Kahin lambe tour pe jaa rahe ho kya ?

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    As, Rajnikant would have exclaimed Ras…..
    You are in fact 3 much.

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  • Ravi

    The problem of Narendra Modi

    Whatever his devotees may think of him – Modi remains a divisive figure.

    He is reviled and appreciated in equal measures, not only in India, but also in his home state Gujarat as well as his own party the BJP. He has also divided the very tightly controlled and disciplined party the RSS.

    In the press he gets mixed reports perhaps more adverse than favourable. This has led his admirers to declare the media as being biased and bought.

    Judge for yourself, here is randomly select sample of world press.

    The problem of Narendra Modi

    Modi will eventually have to come to terms with the legacy of 2002 if he wishes to move to bigger things.

    Narendra Modi is a divisive figure. This has sometimes worked to his advantage and at other times to his disadvantage. Modi has passionate supporters who constitute a solid political base. He has also collected a large army of detractors who can see nothing positive in him. 

    This almost binary reaction is now becoming a problem for Modi, and could put his attempt to move to national stage after 2014 at risk. The recent attack on Modi by Bihar chief minister Nitish Kumar has to be seen against this background.

    http://www.livemint.com/2012/06/21115613/Views–The-problem-of-Narendr.html

    ==

    Modi’s shadow looms large over nation

    It is easy enough to demonise him but a larger question needs to be asked

    By Ravi Menon, Special to Gulf News

    Published: 00:00 June 17, 2012

    Narendra Modi, the longest serving Chief Minister of Gujarat, has achieved the rare distinction of being one of most divisive figures in India’s recent history. Not even Mahatma Gandhi’s assassin, Nathu Ram Godse, generated such an amount of sustained hatred.

    http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists/modi-s-shadow-looms-large-over-nation-1.1036589

    ==

    13 June 2012 Last updated at 06:08

    Viewpoint: Narendra Modi makes his move

    Many Indians cannot accept Gujarat ’s strongman as Prime Minister. It may be time to accept he may become that anyway says commentator Samar Halarnkar.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-18352532

    ==

    Modi Can’t Be Projected as PM Candidate: Brajesh Mishra

    Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi cannot be portrayed as prime ministerial candidate as it is impossible for the BJP to get a majority on its own in Lok Sabha polls, Brajesh Mishra has said.

    Mishra, key aide of former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, said Modi
    becoming prime minister depends entirely on BJP getting a majority in Parliament
    on its own.

    “First of all, we must be clear that BJP is not going to get majority on
    its own. Impossible. And therefore, he (Modi) cannot be put forward as a
    successor. They will have to find somebody else,” Mishra told CNN-IBN.

    http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=766341

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I just hope Modi does not become another Advani – PM in waiting.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Nothing would please me more if he did :)

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  • vijay !

    A Party… a drive along wth friends… and 6 hrs later… the subeject is still Narendra Modi !
    ===========================================================
    O boy… MOdi must be doing somethng right that so many people have to create spin aganst hm and start beleiveiing it themselves !!

    Start the day with Modi and end the day with Modi… seems they are genuinly scared of Modi !

    @ Manhor

    I think t is funny you castigated SHoeb. He is one of the most decent people here. Why do you want him to fit the image of what you want Musliims to be. Backwards, loving the personal law and only obsessed with religious politics.

    I think you should laud Shoeb for breakgn the mould. In fact you should check your own reactions of trying to side up with Ravi, even though he has a snake like agenda of trying to divide India and then get in jehad.

    When the subject was Pranab… he got in Modi and RSS. Pretty low IQ predcatible Jehadi pavlovian reactions….

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  • vijay !

    ==========================================================
    ~~~ HOW THE RSS & bjp PEOPLE ARE HONEST AND STRAIGHT ~~~~
    —————————————————————————————————–
    iF YOU look at the top hundred corrupt chors of India– 50 would be of Congress, 45 of regional parties and maybe 1 or 2 from the BJP. That s the huge differnece between the character driven BJP and the dynasty slaved Congress.
    You may or may not agree with the RSS. But the fact is any poltician, Minister or PM or MP wth an RSS background will not steal. loot or cheat as Congressis daily do.
    I work in four states as an engineering consultant. The scale in loot of the Congressis and regionals as comapred to BJP is so huge… almost 176000 to 1.
    All this spin of the Rs 50, 000 given to bangaru to level scores of the massive cheating is media created trash. It is like comparing a school kid pincihgn a sandwich from a canteen to the brazen dqacoity, murder , rape and loot of Gabbar singh!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We saw the effects of this hateful studies when killing of Salman Taseer
    and Shahbaz Bhatti was celebrated and their killers were garlanded in
    Pakistan.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Mohan
    My sister is posted in Afghanistan on a UN mission. She keeps telling me that the Afghans are normal India loving people. But the ones taught in Pakistan are so full of hatred… of all humanity… that it seems impossible that the situation will ever change there.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When young children are taught hatred how can we expect anything good coming out from that country.

    vijay ! Reply:

    I think … the Dubai model could well be good for Pakistan in the sense that Dubai is pretty open, and aspires to be a part of th globe. Similarly India can be a role model which they would need to copy but would hate to do it.. openly.
    Unfortunately, many Indians beleive that by pampering the religious extremists in Paksitan and Islam they are exhibting compassion.
    They are not. They are just shifting the centre to the side of the jehadi.
    We have seen what Sonia G , baby G and Digvinash G did in the UP polls. By crying for the dead terrorists, the encouraged the Akali Dal and the NC to do the same.

    vijay ! Reply:

    @mohanrr:disqus
    Anyway gnight for now…
    pretty late in india.
    Will wait for ur morning joke…
    and smile in my sleep thingking of the ****…

  • vijay !

    ~~~ WHY CHANGING ENGRICH, RAVI AND OTHER PAKISTANIS IS IMPOSSBLE ~~~~
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    Many of us are surprised and perplexed to the extent Engrich and Ravi try to peddle in lies and hatred for India and Hindus.
    This is all to do with their edducation system in Pakistan. NDTV carries an aritcle which explains their brainwashng.
    ————————————–
    Pak kids taught ‘A’ for Allah, ‘B’ for ‘bandook’
    Press Trust of India | Updated: June 24, 2012 17:50 IST

    London: Citing stark examples from school curriculum, a prominent Islamabad-based scholar has said that extreme religious and anti-India views fed into children in schools reinforced the cycle of extremism that showed no signs of receding in Pakistan.

    Pervez Hoodbhoy, a nuclear physicist and a prominent commentator on current issues, showed the examples at a seminar in King’s College on the role of education in combating terrorism, organised by the Democracy Forum.

    The examples showed by Hoodbhoy included images and text from a primer that mentioned the Urdu equivalent of A as ‘Allah’, B as ‘bandook’, Te as ‘takrao’, J as ‘jehad’, H as ‘hijab’, Kh as ‘khanjar’ and Ze as ‘zunoob’.

    Hoodbhoy, whose presentation title was ‘How education fuels terrorism in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’, also showed a college that is seen as going up in flames, containing images of things considered sinful: kites, guitar, satellite TV, carom board, chess, wine bottles and harmonium.

    Examples cited by Hoodbhoy from another curriculum document for Class V students included tasks such as discussion on: ‘Understand Hindu-Muslim differences and the resultant need for Pakistan’, ‘India’s evil designs against Pakistan’, ‘Make speeches on shehadat and jehad’.

    “There has been a sea change in Pakistan in the last six decades. The poison put into education by General Zia-ul-Haq was not changed by subsequent regimes. And attitudes have changed over the years, makes my country alien to me,” Hoodbhoy said. Recalling his growing up years in Karachi, he said the city was home to Hindus, Parsis and Christians. “They are all gone. The same is true of much of Pakistan. Minorities have no place in Pakistan today”.

    He held madarsas partly responsible for the situation, and regretted that efforts initiated during the regime of General Pervez Musharraf to reform them did not go far.

    After the 2007 Lal Masjid incident, liberal voices were also less welcome in Pakistan’s news media, he said.

    “Every attempt at education reform has failed to remove the hate material in curriculum, but there is a minority that wants change. The situation will remain in freefall, until something drastic is done to change the situation,” he said.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    J for JIHAD.

    Fake Ravi will certainly applaud for this teaching system in the name of Allah the merciful!!!!!!!

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    vijay ! Reply:

    It is a pity that his life will remain wasted as would that of so many suicide bombers.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    O for Osama
    K – AK47 ( actual textbook)
    E== Engrich
    F= fake currency

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  • Anonymous

    Just now finished watching Aamir Khan’s Satyameva Jayate on huge amount of harmful pesticide being used in farming. Are we all really consuming poison daily?
    Organic farming was promoted in ths programme. Is this this solution?
    I am not an expert on this, would love to read views of learned people on this blog.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    It was a very good programme. Very informative and also alarming.

    But, I have one doubt. Amir Khan endorses colas, which too contain pesticides. Is there any ethical issue involved here?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    People grow up and learn.
    You must notice that he has prevented his advertisements from appearing on the show. That shows his maturity.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Welcome back !
    Aamir has shown us the potential of TV

    Anonymous Reply:

    Just a quick glances at the site before I move on with my work – a project that is keeping me busy.

  • pankaj#1

    Manohar;
    By chance, I have come across an article by Ram Puniyani. Now, I believe, this guy is hero of many people here. I will take him head on now. You watch the show from side line.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This guy Ram Puniyani has been writing for Tehelka since many years
    and his all articles are almost on same subject. Yoginder Sikand who use to write similar things recently admitted that he was being paid for spreading false propaganda. May be this guy Ram is also from the same tribe.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ram Puniyani is a thappa on the fair name of Sindhis.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How about reading the article “all over again” ?

    http://www.countercurrents.org/sikand190412.htm

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    I now saw clearly through the hollowness of the revolutionary rhetoric that I was hooked on to for years. Leave alone the whole world or the ’system’, I couldn’t even change my family and close friends, to bring them to think and behave as I wanted them to.

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    Ravi Reply:

    PathakG

    A dear friend of mine once warned me to be weary of Ram Puniyani. Naturally I asked why. He wallows in victimhood, came the answer.

    Read the following…to me this seems to come from a man who has taken on the case on behalf of the victims rather than someone who wallows in victimhood.

    For two whole decades, writing on such ‘marginalised groups’ and their ‘problems’–many of them real, others imaginary and yet many others self-created–and participating in the ’struggle’ against ‘caste/class oppression’, ‘gender injustice’ and ‘imperialism’ was almost my sole occupation. In these many years, I must have written well over a thousand articles that, in my eyes, championed the cause of the ‘oppressed’ and of the ‘Revolution’. Hardly a week passed without my churning out a piece or two on the subject. ‘It’s my way of contributing to the Revolution,’ I would tell myself, seriously believing that my writings were making a major difference to ‘The Cause’. Only I know what smug satisfaction this gave me! I know you’ll find it absurd but I even began to imagine that if I ceased writing on the issues that I so sincerely obsessed about, it would make a major dent in prospects for the ‘Revolution’ to ever arrive!

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with the writings of Ram Puniyani, he is attacked because his message is against the H I N D U R I G H T. He is attacked as a part of the well-practiced tactic of “lets attack the messenger because we don’t like his message” No one discusses the points he makes, the cowards just attack him.

    AshishC Reply:

    :D
    Mr Puniyani is dismissed. He does not merit an attack. Let him wallow in mediocrity and co-habit the land of the delusional with Kancha Illaiah, DT Rajsekhar etc.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    I agree that my English is not very good. I again read the whole article at your insistence and still I understood the
    same as I had when I read it first time that the writer
    himself admits that he was biased and he happy to get
    paid for his biased writings. I will paste few lines from this article :

    Negativism, then, was a defining feature of being ‘progressive’,
    and that’s what I began to revel in. But such negativism was almost entirely
    one-sided in ‘activist’ circles, for to be counted as a ‘real’ ’social activist’
    it was simply unthinkable that the ‘oppressed’ could be faulted for almost
    anything at all. For a ’social activist’ to even mention, leave alone condemn,
    the foibles of the ‘oppressed communities’–gender injustice or caste rivalries
    among Dalits or the obscurantism and misogyny preached in many Muslim madrasas
    or the terror attacks and killings of innocents by Naxalites and radical
    Islamists–was tantamount to nothing less than treason. Reports about such
    matters were generally dismissed as ‘malicious ruling-class propaganda’ or
    ‘malicious Brahminical brainwashing’ or even as an ‘understandable reaction of
    vulnerable minority communities to ruling caste/class/imperialist oppression’.
    Sometimes, if these were grudgingly admitted to be true, they were sought to be
    passed over in silence in order to ‘respect the sensibilities of the oppressed’
    or as ‘minor contradictions’ that ought not to be addressed on the grounds that
    it would allegedly ‘divide’ the oppressed, ’sabotage’ the struggle against
    ‘oppression’ and thereby ‘play into the hands of the real opressors’. If you
    only just pointed out that there were serious faults in the madrasas that needed
    to be urgently addressed (even for the sake of the Muslim children who studied
    therein) or that Muslim Personal Law was seriously biased against Muslim women
    or that many Dalits who had taken advantage of the system of protective
    discrimination behaved with fellow Dalits almost as shabbily as did their
    ‘upper’ caste Hindu ‘oppressors’, you were sure to be shouted down as a
    ‘government agent’ or a ‘paid stooge of Hindutva forces’, not only by fellow
    ‘progressives’ but also by a whole host of voices among the communities whom you
    had spent years trying to defend and promote. If you even so much as mildly
    hinted that the conditions of Muslims in India weren’t half as bad as sections
    of the Urdu media wanted people to believe or that the Muslims in this country
    had much more freedom than in any Muslim-majority state or that untouchability
    was no longer as rampant as it once was in some parts, you were bound to be
    accused of betrayal and your motives were rumoured to be entirely suspect. If
    you acknowledged that probably less Muslims were killed by Hindus in riots in
    India every year than the number of fellow Muslims slaughtered by their
    co-religionists in the ‘Islamic’ Republic of Pakistan or in God-forsaken
    Afghanistan or that the plight of religious minorities in many Muslim countries,
    particularly those ruled by theocratic regimes, was much worse than in India or
    that some Dalit officials were neck-deep in corruption, you were bound to be
    hollered at for allegedly being a ‘traitor’ to ‘The Cause’ of the ‘oppressed’.
    The very same folks who egged you on to write about their problems and to take
    the Hindutva beast by its horns (for they were either too scared to do it
    themselves or didn’t have the same writing skills or the same access to the
    English media) would shrilly denounce you as an ‘agent’ of this or the other
    ‘power’ if, in your quest to be honest and balanced, you pointed out even some
    of the mildest of their faults. It was as if by definition the ‘oppressed’ were
    spotless angels who could do no wrong and their ‘oppressors’ wholly and
    incorrigibly demonic.

    Protesting against ’social oppression’ had truly become a profession for many,
    who turned into what are called ‘professional social activists’. Negative news
    and developments were quickly seized upon by them to write about and demonstrate
    against, to pontificate about in seminars and to appear on TV to debate over and
    thereby worm their way into the public limelight, and even to wangle well-funded
    research projects, academic assignments and jaunts abroad in exotic locations,
    where they would share their ‘expertise’ about the ‘oppressed communities’ and
    exhibit their ‘radical commitment’ to them, often being handsomely paid for this
    service. I was guilty of the same misdemeanour, too, in some very fundamental
    ways, I have to admit here.

    ==Some folks I know made pretty neat fortunes this way, setting up NGOs and
    ‘think-tanks’ ostensibly to study and ‘work with’ ‘oppressed communities’, and
    raked in vast amounts of money from gullible foreign donors. In fact, barring a
    few really committed souls, a whole host of ‘progressives’ in the NGO, academic
    and media world, made their living out of the misery of the ‘oppressed’, earning
    in this way not just their daily bread but also the really serious money that
    they needed to buy their cars and houses and to send their children to the
    ‘best’ English-medium schools and then for higher studies to the USA (which they
    never tired of reviling in public, of course), where they, too, would often
    sojourn when their ’social activism’ became just a bit too tiring, boring or
    bothersome. Not many of them, who never ceased showing-off their ‘commitment’ to
    the ‘oppressed’ communities and their visceral hatred for ‘oppressor’ castes,
    would, I suspect, want to be treated in an Adivasi-run nursing home or to send
    their children to a Muslim-run school

    Ravi Reply:

    I read the lines you quote differently.

    Overall in the article the author is going through a cathartic self-soul searching journey and discovering certain uncomfortable issues. He is discovering that life is more complex than everyone thinks it is.

    The following examples – some from out-side of India – are parallels of the phenomenon observed by the author.

    1. Many people opposed the white rule of Ian Smith in Zimbabwe because it was racist and oppressive. They now feel very uncomfortable because Mugabe is worse oppressor and a racist than Ian Smith ever was.

    2. We thought that the word “nigger” was derogatory to-wards blacks, yet the word is mostly used by American Blacks themselves.

    3. We fought against whites discriminating against blacks only to find that US Blacks discriminate against West Indian Blacks who in turn discriminate against African Blacks.

    4. Likewise we fight to stop upper caste discrimination of dalits only to find that dalit is not a homogeneous society, and that dalit to dalit discrimination also exists and is equally deplorable.

    5. We fight against discrimination towards Muslims, yet we find many unsavoury elements lurking in Indian Maddrassas who undeservedly benefit from our anti-discriminatory efforts.

    My advice to the author would be to continue his good work by prioritising the eradication of discrimination against dalits. The sub issues of dalits discriminating against other dalits should be addressed when the main issue has been dealt with.

    I do not know where you got the notion that the writer is not genuinely committed to the issues he passionately believes in, but is prostituting his skills in return for money and writing about issues that he does not believe in.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What this author is trying to say in this paragraph?

    Protesting against ’social oppression’ had truly become a profession for many,
    who turned into what are called ‘professional social activists’. Negative news
    and developments were quickly seized upon by them to write about and demonstrate
    against, to pontificate about in seminars and to appear on TV to debate over and
    thereby worm their way into the public limelight, and even to wangle well-funded
    research projects, academic assignments and jaunts abroad in exotic locations,
    where they would share their ‘expertise’ about the ‘oppressed communities’ and
    exhibit their ‘radical commitment’ to them, often being handsomely paid for this
    service. I was guilty of the same misdemeanour, too, in some very fundamental
    ways, I have to admit here.

    Ravi Reply:

    My reading of this is that an INDUSTRY (some would say a lucrative one) has developed around the activity of opposing “Social Oppression”. Whereas in the time of Vinobha Bhave, MG, eminent social reformers relied on charity and patronage of rich benefactors, those have now been replaced by national and International NGOs.

    The author is introspecting and asking if this change is a good change or not. He is also wondering the fact that NGO’s pay for organisations who conduct public debates on “social oppression” thereby making them agents of change in our society have unwittingly undermined the moral basis of such initiatives which they have replaced it with professionalism, which in turn is rewarded at market rates. Simply put should the work of opposing “social oppression” remain the domain of committed voluntary enthusiasts or should there be room for Professionals who get handsomely paid. He is troubled by this transition.

    Should the OXFAM CEO be paid market rates or should such work always be done on voluntary basis??

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are reading this as he is only introspecting where as
    my reading says that while introspecting he is also admitting
    that he used to write biased articles.

    Ravi Reply:

    Every one reads, what they want to read.

    AshishC Reply:

    Hand on heart, I tried; I honestly tried. But, I have undergone a change like Mr Sikand. I can no longer read boring prose, page after page even if my life depended on it- which it did not.

    Ravi Reply:

    Oft repeated opinion does not become a fact, it becomes a bleief.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    There are friends and there are enemies. One has to live with this and fight your own battles. It looks like at the moment there are more of the latter than the former in case of Modi and they seem to be winning.

    I read all of them and then I separate the wheat from the chaff. I have no particular like or dislike for anyone.

    If you must know, I have always admired Swapan Dasgupta, in spite of he being a pro BJP historian, journalist and political commentator.

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    Ravi Reply:

    I have a bag of pop-corn, a bag full of Palak Pakoras, a 1.5 liter can of diet pepsi.
    When will the show begin???

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    I feel that Modi has more enemies than friends, is a wishful thinking and far from the fact. he is fast becoming hero of middle class and not so middle class.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    aapke munh mei.n ghee shakkar. Good luck.

  • Anonymous

    A line written on a Husband’s T shirt.

    All wives are devils but my wife is queen

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    Of them.

    Good morning friends.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    I have asked you before, are you in the business of humour? Just joking. ;-)

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  • Anonymous

    An Indian electronic shop keeper from Kerala was attacked and killed at Sharjah by 20 Pakistanis armed with knives and sticks. 4 passer by who tried to save him were also injured. The reason was that he refused to take back the trimmer bought by one of the Pakistani.

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  • Anonymous

    40 surgeries put off due to water shortage in Delhi

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/40-surgeries-put-off-due-to-water-shortage-in-Delhi/articleshow/14379764.cms

    Doctors at the hospital said there was no water to sterilize instruments, wash the operation theatre, clean the linen and wash hands – without which surgeries could not be conducted.

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  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS…………..BREAKING NEWS
    ==================================

    NALANDA UNIVERSITY CREATES A STINK EVEN WITHOUT A TOILET!
    Unqualified Vice Chancellor hired at Rs5.6lakh per month!
    Appointed with restrospective effect!!!!!!
    Appointment illegal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Yet refuses to leave Delhi because Nalanda has no toilets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I suggest she shift her residence to the Planning Commission Office, which has two toilets renovated at a cost of 40lakhs.

    http://www.tehelka.com/story_main50.asp?filename=Ws010911EDUCATION.asp

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Must be part of si-BB-al’s inner circle and favours would be handed out in retun of detecting RSS and BJP in history 2000 years back….

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Only a person who does not believe in personal hygiene and is used to stinking toilets in his own house would make a TISSUE out of a non-issue.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Bipin Shah,

    you are right there.

    Bopa Sabharwal shouldn’t have made a stinking issue out of the toilet, particularly when she has been paid so exorbitantly a high salary since Sept., 2010, even without working for a single day for sitting on her honches.

    Whether she believes in personal hygiene or is merely showing off is anybody’s guess.

    I would advise you, however, take care of what goes out; or else, you too will create a bigger stink for your neighbours.

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  • Anonymous

    Last night there was a discussion between Pankaj and Manohar on FDI in
    Gujarat. One of the reason Gujarat has attracted less FDI is because
    of witch hunt by IT department.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/it-notice-to-gujarat-for-details-of-mous-at-vibrant-summit/762855/

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    Mohan

    What an excuse?

    When MOUs amounting to Rs 20 lac crores(*) (more than the annual budget of the GOI and is no small amount by any yardstick) are signed, naturally someone will take notice. Otherwise IT department will be accused of not doing their duty. All they asked was list of potential investors (so what even if at the behest of the Congress party). If these investors / big shots were all legitimate and had the legitimate resources / funds to invest, why get scared and scoot? Surely IT department already has information on companies like Tatas, L&T, M&M, Bharti, etc., these companies would not scoot and more importantly would not sign MOUs way beyond their capacity to invest.

    If one has not done anything wrong or provided correct facts and figures, why get scared of the IT department. BTW: the objection to IT department seeking the list was raised by none other than Modi himself and forced Jaitely to raise the issue in the parliament.

    Signing a MOU well beyond one’s legitimate means does not cost anything – it is just that a MOU. “sirf sign karne mein kyaa jaataa hai”. Even you could have gone and signed a MOU worth US$ 20 billion dollars (I trust you are worth much more than that) and none would have asked you any questions, so busy they were in totaling the amounts in the MOUs in order to ’show off’ later. The proof always is in ‘Show me the money’ and that is what let the cat out of the bag.

    To me and to most, the whole exercise of signing MOUs was a sham, just to show how ‘attractive’ Gujarat is under the ‘dynamic’ leadership of Modi.

    Mohan, next time please come up with more convincing argument /
    excuse. This does not wash.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I appreciate the promptness of IT department. Before even any amount was actually invested, by mere signing a MOU ,
    IT department came into action and asked for the list of people who
    dared to think of investing in Gujarat. I wish IT was prompt in pursuing peope like Kamal Nath and Mayawati who actually disclosed their wealth which was manifold more than their previous declaration.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    My post does not in any way condone the inaction on other matters.

    The point raised by you and my rejoinder is that this signing of MOUs was just an ‘clever’ attempt to further his image. This is exactly what I have been debating with Pankaj.

    Other state Governments also come up with MOU figures every now and then (but a never an outlandish figure that even a writer of fairy tales would shudder to use). They be treated as such – MOU figures and only go by the actual investment.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    IT department has no incentive to investigate people like Telgi, Hasan from pune, Jagan reddy, Raja, and countless others. Scare the potential investors, and even if it was a stunt, why other states could not manage, even to get this verbal assurance from others. Green eye monster striking regularly now and it appears, Gujrat is on a different planet??

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    Gujarat is getting a step motherly treatment since many years. When US refused visa to Modi – rightly or wrongly but I consider that as an insult of India – government at center instead of taking up the matter with US, were rejoicing just because they consider Modi as their adversary.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And the detention of SRK for one hour of questioning at a US airport became such a serious issue that S M Kirishna took up the matter with US authorities.

  • Anonymous

    Gujarat jails going high tech.

    Bail Application Now a Click Away for Gujarat Prisoners

    http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=766762

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  • Anonymous

    As a matter of fact

    Read more at:
    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/india-today-editorial-director-m-j-akbar-india-poverty-line-famine-war/1/201905.html

    It does seem odd, though, that India, where 50 times the population of Greece lives below the poverty line, should gift $10 billion to help resolve a problem it did not cause. Till two decades ago, rich nations still felt some mild moral obligation to reduce poverty through aid. They now expect aid from the poor. Miraculously, they get it. Delhi cannot find Rs.20,000 crore for Bengal, but hands over Rs.56,000 crore for Greece. Bengal’s poor can shout as much as the Greeks.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It is a Greek tragedy and an Italian comedy.

    Both these countries should refuse to accept any loan/grant from India, because these two countries, along with Spain and EU members had criticised India for its Human Rights violations and religious attacks on Christians.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Free ka maal hai aane do. Why will they refuse?

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Here is an another perspective, more correct in my view, than what M J Akbar would like us to believe and who is mixing local politics and international diplomacy. Don’t we wish India to have more clout in the world affairs? This is an opportunity to do so.

    ET in the classroom: India’s IMF contribution is not aid

    http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-06-21/news/32352215_1_imf-bonds-brics-and-other-countries-india-s-imf

    The government has pledged $10 billion as its contribution towards a planned International Monetary Fund’s cash chest to tackle the European crisis.So does that mean that Indians will pay for the rescue of the troubled European countries? Or does this amount to giving away precious dollars at a time when foreign inflows are slowing? No, the pledged amount will remain part of India’s reserves. Rishi Shah explains:

    IS INDIAN CONTRIBUTION AN AID?

    No, it is not a giveaway. India is simply buying bonds from the IMF. These bonds are not free aid to the ailing European economies but financial instruments that guarantee safe and reasonable returns. The notes would provide a return of average interest rate of SDR’s over the past three months. SDR, or special drawing right, is a reserve currency created by the IMF to supplement the existing reserves of member countries. After the global financial crisis of 2008, the Group of Twenty industrialized and emerging market economies agreed on April 2, 2009, to triple the International Monetary Fund’s lending capacity to $750 billion, enabling it to inject extra liquidity into the world economy during times of crisis. India had then agreed in principle to inject $10 billion to the IMF war chest.

    ==

    From an another link

    The BRICS countries, comprising Brazil Russia India China and South
    Africa, had earlier agreed that their contributions would be conditional
    on the IMF enhancing their voting rights and “that this recourse will
    be called upon only after existing resources are substantially
    utilised.” If India’s IMF vote share is actually increased, it will have
    to pay another $ 11 billion, said government officials.

    ==

    Leaders like Mamata, Mulayam and others promise everything free to win votes, refuse to raise local taxes, oppose hike in petrol prices and then demand the centre make up for the gap.

    You are right, ‘free kaa maal aane do’, as far as our Netas and Didis are concerned. Earlier, even Jaya visited Delhi to ask for money in order to fulfill her electoral promises. Contrast this with Nitish, he did not ask for money from the centre, when he distributed free cycles to girl students.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I had read in another article that India has pledged USD 10 billions. Only if required India will be asked to pay this amount but this is first time I am reading about bonds being issued against this amount. If this is true why don’t someone from government
    clarify the issue to put all the doubts at rest.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Ask and you will get the answers.

    M J Akbar in this case failed to to do so (and so did the BJP and others) and went on to write his article, perhaps to be the first off the blocks just to find fault and slam. ‘Fault-finding’ is the new game in town.

    Yes, you are right, it will be used only if required – a contingency fund. When used, the countries will be subject to stringent conditions – it will not be a dole.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What was the BJP’s reaction (I must have missed it)?

    By the way, how many countries in EU do we need to bail out? Why does a ‘contingency’ fund for a ‘developed nation’ needs to be financed by a ‘third world country’ when the US is not contributing to this fund?

    Ravi Reply:

    Not a 3rd world country, but a country who is a member of the IMF.
    What would your view be if the country that was being bailed out was India

    manohar_T Reply:

    First of all, thanks for keeping your word – No Me, No you.

    1) BJP slams PM for aid to Eurozone
    http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/2012/06/23/311-BJP-slams-PM-for-aid-to-Eurozone.html

    2) Developed Nation -vs- Third World Country.

    Several ways of looking at it.

    a) Payback time. We have received enough aid / loans /grants in the past. So the roles are reversed.

    b) We have been endeavouring to have a greater say in the world affairs, given our numbers, etc., plus we are now part of the global economy. With the increase in the SDRs, our vote share at IMF increases and are in a better position to influence policies that are more helpful to us.

    c) With Eurozone in shambles and if it gets worse, we lose a big chunk of a export market – they would not have the money to buy our goods, in the bargain our producers and exporters and the country will suffer. If we help, we get more leverage even in fields other than trade. That is what BRICS is trying to achieve – influence and say in proportion to our economic strengths.

    d) Which law on earth says that a third world country cannot help a developed nation? Secondly, gives them some food for thought and a humbling experience – where did they go wrong, etc. We surely wish to get out of the tag of a third-world country. My view is that we along with BRICS should be tagged (if needed to be at all) as second world country.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is better to help someone than to leave it in government
    coffers for our politicians to steal.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That’s a good enough reason!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks Manohar,

    a) Mr. Joshi didn’t really slam Dr. Singh. He aired his concern about this aid/loan – is this the best use of our limited financial resources at a time when our own currency is falling at an alarming rate and could we have bargained it for something in (immediate) return? The govt. of the day has taken a call, we should stand by it.

    b) Europe could be a big market for China, I doubt if it is true for India.

    c) Why don’t we first set our own house in order before we go out fixing other’s issue and possibly get a bigger say on a world stage?

    Economics should have been much simpler. People in those countries who don’t work and live off govt. doles need to wake up. No one else should be bothered about bailing them out.

    manohar_T Reply:

    a) Our foreign exchange reserves are around US$ 300 billion dollars, what is US$ 10 billion that it cannot be spared. Moreover, we shall earn interest from the IMF on purchase of SDRs, we are doing no charity.

    My view is that as a (bad) habit of the BJP, it is slamming and opposing anything the Government does, without ever going into the merits.

    Please note the tangible and intangible benefits we get from this (never mind the BJP cannot see them) decision. I have listed some of them.

    b) China does not produce everything they need. Also remember, our services sector (IT and et al), we have advantage over China.

    c) Why that cannot be done simultaneously?
    Going by your logic, no country would ever be able to help another. Help and be helped goes on all the time.

    Perhaps, they will learn a lesson that they should practice simple economics. What they do with the money would be their call, though IMF is going to insist on lot of austerity measures -including cutting down freebies.

    manohar_T Reply:

    a) Our foreign exchange reserves are around US$ 300 billion dollars, what is US$ 10 billion that it cannot be spared. Moreover, we shall earn interest from the IMF on purchase of SDRs, we are doing no charity.

    My view is that as a (bad) habit of the BJP, it is slamming and opposing anything the Government does, without ever going into the merits.

    Please note the tangible and intangible benefits we get from this (never mind the BJP cannot see them) decision. I have listed some of them.

    b) China does not produce everything they need. Also remember, our services sector (IT and et al), we have advantage over China.

    c) Why that cannot be done simultaneously?
    Going by your logic, no country would ever be able to help another. Help and be helped goes on all the time.

    Perhaps, they will learn a lesson that they should practice simple economics. What they do with the money would be their call, though IMF is going to insist on lot of austerity measures -including cutting down freebies.

    manohar_T Reply:

    This is the same amount – pledged in 2010. We will not pay as such, we will buy SDRs.

  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Abu Jundal admits role in 26/11 attack, links with ISI

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Abu-Jundal-admits-role-in-26/11-attack-links-with-ISI/articleshow/14390723.cms
    LeT terrorist Syed Zabiuddin alias Abu Jundal, who was arrested by Delhi Police, has admitted his active role in the 26/11 attack, saying he had worked in close tandem with terror mastermind Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi.

    During his interrogation, Jundal confessed his role in the country’s worst terror attack and admitted that he was present in the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) control room in Karachi and was giving direction to the 10 terrorists who carried out the strike.

    ==
    Read on.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Does this mean that it was not RSS ki saazish?

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    हो ही नहीं सकता उस दिन RSS चिंतन में बैधी थी

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Sangma trains his guns on FM

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/Chunk-HT-UI-President2012-TopStories/Sangma-trains-his-guns-on-FM/Article1-878181.aspx

    A day after inviting rival Pranab Mukherjee for a debate, BJP-backed Presidential candidate PA Sangma took him on directly, blaming him for the slowdown of the economy.
    Formally beginning his campaign from Amritsar on Sunday, Sangma spoke to Punjab chief minister Parkash Singh Badal and paid obeisance at the Golden Temple.

    “The country today faces devaluation of money, price rise and issues like corruption, and the finance minister is individually responsible for this,” Sangma told reporters after the visit to the Golden Temple.

    ==

    In an interview with journalist Karan Thapar for CNN-IBN, he said his candidature would do good to secularism in India. Reminded that the Sangh Parivar was accused of complicity in the Kandhamal riots of Orissa and the murder of Christian missionary Graham Staines, Sangma said, “Where is the proof that BJP has done it?”

    “Forgiveness is the essence of Christianity,” he added.

    ==

    He is just like any other politcian. ‘vote ke liye kuchh bhi bole gaa’

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Another interesting excerpt from the same interview:

    Karan Thapar:Mr Sangma, even if you look at the BJP, who you said a moment ago had increased their support for you to 26-28 per cent, are using you… as a stepping stone over the bridge to Jayalalithaa and Naveen Patnaik. Mr Sangma you are a tool. You are a part of a strategy that supports their convenience. That’s why they are supporting you, not because they believe in you.

    PA Sangma: You think we are ignorant of which media is whose tool? Mr Karan, you think we are ignorant of which media is whose tool. Mr Karan don’t talk about tools.

    Karan Thapar:Are you suggesting that my questioning is motivated?

    PA Sangma: Yes, yes, you are also a tool. We are all tools. Don’t bring these kind of questions. We are all tools. These are small, petty things.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Read this about the same interview.

    Sangma Slaps Karan ‘TheTool’ Thapar
    http://www.mediacrooks.com/2012/06/sangma-slaps-karan-thetool-thapar.html

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    Ravi Reply:

    This will do absolutely no favour to Sangama’s candidature but will enhance the reputation of Karan Thapar.
    When the politician starts to argue with the interviewer, the politician suffers.

    manohar_T Reply:

    The news channels tickers are displaying that P A Sagma has started making personal attacks on Pranab Mukherjee.

    1) Where and from whom did he learn these tricks?

    2) Abuse and personal attacks are sure sign of desperation. He should remember, it will also put off many of his supporters in the electoral college.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is what happens when people think it is their right for the “next post”..

    BabyG, JagagnJi,Stalinjee — the list of belivers in their birth rights is quite long.. (can you believe anybody naming their son Stalin…or may be when Karuna named him the atrocities committed by Stalin were not public!)

    manohar_T Reply:

    1) What sort of person he has turned out to be and he is aspiring to be the President of India?

    2) After the elections (which he is most likely to lose – Pranab Mukherjee on the other hand seems so confident that he has resigned from the Congress Party), he will surely become persona non-grata in the corridors of power. One should learn from him as to how to burn one’s bridges.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Notwithstanding his questioning of the outgoing FM (I haven’t noticed much of a personal attack), is Sangma a secular?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sangma was secular till few days back. After getting
    backing from BJP he has become communal.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Until now, he did not give any indication that he was not.

    His comments about Orissa may an attempt to please the hardliners of the BJP, who may not be inclined to vote for him for whatever reasons. He has forgotten though what Naveen Patnaik must be thinking about him now.

    My view is that in his desperation, he is tying himself into knots, which he may find unable to untie easily.

  • Anonymous

    When exactly did Nitish Kumar develop the Modi
    allergy ?

    http://blog.offstumped.in/2012/06/21/when-exactly-did-nitish-kumar-develop-the-modi-allergy/

    Interesting article.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    An exercise in irrelevancy

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    nitish, whom i thought is “above” politics, at the end of the day is like any other appeasing politician – for him particularly because of the unique situation in Bihar now.

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    The author writes

    “In fact through the exhaustive search of Google News Archive it is hard to find a single direct comment by Narendra Modi on Nitish Kumar during that entire period”.

    Is it not obvious? Narendra Modi also needs Nitish Kumar (not the other way around) in his pursuit of national ambitions.

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  • Anonymous

    This is copy paste from another blog. I found this very funny and thought of sharing with you guys.
    ===

    New Delhi. Taking note of the development that “secularism” was back in the
    limelight after Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar demanded a secular Prime
    Ministerial candidate for NDA, Delhi University has launched a course in
    secularism – Bachelor of Secularism or B.Sc.
    When asked if the university had acquired the necessary rights to issue
    certificates of secularism – something that has been the prerogative of a
    few intellectuals and political leaders –
    Prof. Singh said that time had come when different centers started issuing
    certificates of secularism.
    “Traditionally an institute like JNU or a politician like Digvijay
    Singh would issue certificates of secularism, but we think that this
    trend needs to be changed,” he said.“In fact, we’d be awarding degrees,” he
    added.
    The different types of secularism, as identified for the course curriculum,
    are – Western Secularism (separation of the Church and the
    State), Gandhian Secularism (equal respect to all
    religions), Nehruvian Secularism (equal confusion towards all
    religions), Atheistic Secularism (equal disrespect to all
    religions), Pseudo Secularism (more respect to the minority
    religions), and Indian Secularism (no definition; pass course,
    no specialization).
    “We were also thinking of offering specialization in Instant
    Secularism (opposition to Narendra Modi) but we think one doesn’t need
    to study for three years for this, so we are sticking to the five areas of
    specialization,” Prof. Singh informed.

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    Ravi Reply:

    What a waste of time, when every one knows that one becomes positively secular by just joining the BJP.

    Don’t believe me, then read this….

    Article IV : COMMITMENTS

    The Party shall be committed to nationalism and national integration, democracy, ‘Gandhian approach to socio-economic issues leading to the establishment of an egalitarian society free from exploitation’, Positive Secularism, that is, ‘Sarva Dharma Samabhav’ and value-based politics. The party stands for decentralisation of economic and political power.

    From the lost constitution of the BJP…

    http://www.bjp.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=135&Itemid=444

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Nationalism is bad,
    national integration is very bad, Democracy is extremely bad,
    ‘Gandhian approach to socio-economic issues leading to the establishment of an egalitarian society free from exploitation’, is worse
    Positive Secularism, that is, ‘Sarva Dharma Samabhav’ and value-based politics is worst.
    And no political party should stand for decentralisation of economic and political power.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Constitution is OK….puting it into practice by the BJP is questionable, because that is determined by oh yar yes yes. I know you knew that but repeating it, has never done any one any harm

    Anonymous Reply:

    I have learnt two things in last two days of posts:

    a) The constitution of BJP is OK, and
    b) Congress has adopted some policies which are a little more than naked appeasement.

    Thank God, I am on the right side of the political divide!!

    Ravi Reply:

    Which divide would that be.
    I am a Congressi and have been all my life. So were my parents.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This is what you had said yesterday.

    The constitution of Congress is SECULAR. However, in practice that may be implemented imperfectly. That may make them hypocrite but not communal.Whereas the BJP Constitution is HINDU, its policies are HINDU, its ideological basis is not liberal Hindu but a more conservative and regressive form of MANUFACTURED
    HINDUATVA.

    Today you say that Constitution is OK

    Ravi Reply:

    Yes I said that and what is wrong with what I said.
    Just read the constitution and its implimentation.
    What do the words Positive Secularism mean. One could draw an entire कारवां of Rath Yatras through that.
    Once again you read what you want to read.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    for the sake of transparency, all answer sheets will be corrected under the supervision of National Advisory Council by a drain-inspectors’ committee headed by Rev Johan Dayal.

    People can appeal for recorrection only to Sonia Gandhi, the supreme commander of all secular armed forces.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    John Dayal is the biggest pot of sh-t ! Only in India sh-t garbage like him rise to the top because of the government sh-t

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    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi
    I was wondering what John Dayal could have done in order to have elicited the above unsavoury comment from you.

    So I googled his name.

    First 3 lines told me all I needed to know.

    John Dayal (born 2 October 1948) is an Indian journalist and civil rights activist who supports minorities such as Christians and Dalits. He is a member of the National Integration Council (NIC) of India, Secretary-General of the All India Christian Council and a past president of the All India Catholic Union. He has been outspoken in opposition to Hindu nationalist groups, in protest against attacks on Christians, in defense of church property and in support of Dalit rights. His activist approach has drawn criticism.

    So any one who is anti Hinduatva or Right Wing Hindu policies, you loose your cool and join the abusing brigade.

    Are you sure that you are a Christian, or ….

  • Anonymous

    Mohan, et al

    Is Egypt going to be an Arab Pakistan?

    with the Mulla oriented Muslim Brotherhood winning the presidency in Egypt, and with the army still a major controller/influencer there, it looks like that the necessary ingredients to make an Arab Pakistan are in place – an army wanting to preserve its power allowing the Brotherhood slowly Islamicizing the country.

    Only time will tell. Or this may be a second step in a long drawn process. The result of ‘freedom” in many Arab countries was the killing of minorities (be it Sunnies or Shiites or Christians). Let us hope the ancient Coptic Christians are not targeted in Egypt.

    Mohan, what is the opinion in Dubai and in mideast in general?

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    Ravi Reply:

    They have their mandate from the public. I guess that is why you dislike democracy so much.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    People here are very happy at the results as most of them think that
    Muslim Brotherhood has changed and they see them as moderate and
    not extremist. . Most of the Egyptians are happy to see end of Mubarak era. It is a wait and watch situation

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    Ravi Reply:

    Now that the Brotherhood has changed, I wonder if it is time for the RSS (Brotherhood’s direct equivalent in India) to change.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    People here believe that Muslim brotherhood has changed.
    We have to wait and watch.

    Ravi Reply:

    People say that the RSS has changed. That under Mohan Bahgwat it is a bit more inclusive and that it follows the original Hedgewar/Deoras template rather than Sarvarkar/Golwarkar template.
    We will have to wait and watch.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Is that why you have grown a walrus mustache, aping the RSS Sarsanghachalak?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, wouldnt it be ironical if the army transforms them back into jehadists?

    let us see .. I hope and pray 1) they will get the real power – currently the real power is with the army ..they dissolved the assembly, reduced the power of the president 2) that 5they will exercise power for the benefit of all egyptians and not just Muslims or certain sects of muslims

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    manohar_T Reply:

    It is something a similar situation like that in Pkaistan. I believe a deal has been worked out with Mr. Morsi and Muslim Brotherhood – they will keep their contentious policies on the back burner and in all probability person from the opposition (the liberals) will be appointed the Prime Minister. There will be elections to the parliament and this parliament will frame a new constitution, the army keeping a close watch and calling the shots. At the moment, it is more about stability than democracy and not to ruffle too many feathers.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    “Let us hope the ancient Coptic Christians are not targeted in Egypt”.

    Very touching indeed. Only if you were to show similar concerns about minorities (Muslims and Christians) in India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    You and I must be living in different countries.
    What happens in mid-wast countries (and may be soon in Egypt) is state targeted state sanctioned attack on minotities – mostly Christians. Iraq had a strong christian presence; thanks to the sectarian violence triggered after Sadam hussin fall, most of them have been killed and the remainder migrated out. Malikis government encouraged the killings. A similar thing can happen in Egypt too.
    Show me whether a state or centre here has systematically targeted minorities for elimination…dont bring up the post Godhra ..
    and even if there is a problem, dont bring it up as India problem – fru–g Jagmohan reddy (a christian) won 16 of the 18 seats..His dad was CM.. I have e a Christian CM and a Muslim dy CM..

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    manohar_T Reply:

    A very unsatisfactory reply with a proviso – do not mention 2002 – after all it is a matter related to Modi (your God). Expecting anything else would have been very unGopi like. Thank you.

    BTW: Why do you hate Indian Muslims and Christians so much? You called some names for a person named John Dayal. What crime has he committed?

    vijay ! Reply:

    Cmon mr biased. Can you tell us why you celeberarte the conversion of trib als to christiantiiy but find their return to Hindusims repungent?

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Great.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This congressi troll believes that conversion should be a one-way ticket. No return.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And you could also do with a little shedding of tears for the Hindus Sikhs and Christians in Pakistan.

    Your fake concern for the minorities in India is laughable.

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  • Anonymous

    Karan Thapar calls Sangma a tool,

    of parties opposed to the UPA pool

    and says, you’re committing a big bhool

    But Sangma says, “mujhe hai kabool”

    He says, “Karan, on TV you look like a fool

    your locked jaws suggest backlog of stool,

    as paid news, your questions are all kaante, no phool,

    get your paisa fast, or else all you get will be dhool”.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy-
    KaranThapar was a cheerleader for Kanimozhi before her scam.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy-
    KaranThapar was a cheerleader for Kanimozhi before her scam.

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  • Anonymous

    Breaking News!

    Ravi now says he is a life long Congressi; even his parents were.
    Add Congress to Sialkott, Sardarji roots, “our people in middle east being invaded….”
    Pakistanis are always at home with congress!

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Is it a crime to be a congressi? If so, under which law of the land? Why it is not a crime to be a RSS/BJP supporter? Care to tell us or is just one of your standard rants? Before you answer that remember this is India and not Hindu Rashtra.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    Raju Kurien or S Singh as he some times calls himslef, has in total 32 posts recorded here. A curosory scan would show you that 14 of these are attacking me directly or indirectly.

    I appear by name in 11 of them.

    As far as I can remember he has never made any sensible point ever.

    This kind of sums him up really.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And are you not calling yourself Anwaaaar from Dallas in OUTLOOK?

    Anonymous Reply:

    You also note that this is India, not some Islamic fundoo republic.
    Everybody has a right to expose lies like this fake called Ravi utters about his pop and mom loving the congress.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Is it a crime to be a congressi? If so, under which law of the land? Why it is not a crime to be a RSS/BJP supporter? Care to tell us or is just one of your standard rants? Before you answer that remember this is India and not Hindu Rashtra.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Raju,

    you have nailed the blatant lies of this fake Ravi in the past.

    In this “I love congress in Sialkot, my pop and mom loved congress” lie too, you have caught him red handed.

    Keep it up.

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  • Anonymous

    Today is the 37th anniversary of the declaration of “emergency” by Shrimathi Indira Priyadarshini Gandhi.

    I vividly remember hearing Fakru Ahmed, one of her servant President, reading the declaration (we did not even have DD TV in those days; only AIR, thanks to Shrimathi’s growth economy)..

    Suddenly , most of the print media was on the government side.

    Is the media any different now? May be there is another layer, but serving the same master — Corporate controlled government oriented media …these guys will reorient to BJP if BJP comes to power…

    In a way I have a grudging admiration for Murdoch; he decides who should govern!

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    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi
    If you can remember the orientation of media when the Emergency was declared, then surely you should know what the media did when the BJP was last in power??

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Media had shed the fear after Shrimathi was defeated…

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    Ravi Reply:

    But did they started to like the BJP?? Did they run Paid pieces?? or does that only happen when the BJP is out of office – which is almost for ever.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nary a word from the big editors. Not a word from any journalist recalling how he suffered during those dark days.
    Why?

    Hardly any journalist or editor suffered. Almost all of them had become votaries of the good tidings the emergency brought.

    As Advani said, “They (media) were asked to bend, and they crawled”

    Funnily, even today, most of the big editors are often found crawling.

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  • AshishC

    Ravi,
    Just to belabour the point a tiny bit more:
    You said, —Quote—-”My come back will be……my exemplifying Lingayats was purely by way of illustrating that other vote banks besides the Muslims exist.

    As regards to the policies of Congress wrt to Muslim, I will not contradict you. These are times when Congress a National Party with deep roots and very colourful past is losing out to secular regional parties. This has led it to adopt – mistakenly – some policies which are little more than naked appeasement. I will concede that.–unquote—
    The examples of blatantly communal, divisive and dangerous policies pursued by Congress date back to days way before it was ceding ground to “secular regional parties”. In fact, Congress has always acted ruthlessly and without a semblance of morality- in using religion, caste.. what have you- long before these became stock in trade of other parties.
    I referred to Khilafat and Ram Rajya with a definite point to prove.
    Khilafat movement was launched in India by Gandhi- for what? Why is that not branded a overtly communal play? And, Rath Yatra is religious symbolism, but Ram Rajya was not?

    —–Quote —- However, that said let us not throw the baby of positive discrimination out with the appeasement water. I will sooner work to better target the +ve discrimination policies than to replace it with free for all, which will effetely disenfranchise those that have been deliberately dis-advantaged for centuries.—Unquote —-
    Ravi, you have no idea at the ground level what is going on. There is no positive discriminiation policy- unless equating Madrassa education with school education counts as one. And, appeasement? of whom? For heaven’s sake, appease- but not the bearded weirdos.
    By the way, I drove past Deoband on vacation to the hills couple of weeks back. There are no roads. None. From about 10 km into the Nh58 bypass that goes to Deoband en route to Saharanpur.
    The Muslims are stupid- they vote Congress, Mulayam, Mayawati and so on- for the privilege of a non existent 40 odd KM road in front of Dar-ul Ulema Deoband. And, Ram Puniyani and Yogi Sikand live off their collective misery.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish

    Sikand stated recently that he was “paid” to write about the Muslim discrimination/suppression ; he made mountain out of mole; and one day woke up and decided not to do that nay more.

    Mohan (or may be myself) had a link to his confession in one of the old blogs.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish

    Sikand stated recently that he was “paid” to write about the Muslim discrimination/suppression ; he made mountain out of mole; and one day woke up and decided not to do that nay more.

    Mohan (or may be myself) had a link to his confession in one of the old blogs.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Ashish
    I like re-reading my own views, they read better in the light of cold logic.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are a piece of narcisstic sh.t.

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    AshishC Reply:

    Some day you will recant; a la Sikand.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Don’t hold your breath.

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Ashish

    Dont have too high hopes. Sikand was educated in India.

    Ravi in Pakisstan has been brainwashed since age 14 months. B= bandook, a- ak47, g=gaddar for him…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do you really believe that he will ?

    AshishC Reply:

    As Gopi would say, quoting from the Gita, “Karamanye vadhikaraste, ma phaleshu kadachanah”

    Anonymous Reply:

    Tathastu.

    Ravi Reply:

    I did reply last night saying….Don’t hold your breath.
    Sadly it did not appear.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish

    The competition for appeasement (and dynasty preservation) is between Congress and Samajwadis..
    Samajwadis has proposed RS 100Cr/- for helping educate and “marry” poor Muslim girls…

    Isnt India wonderful!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BJP is opposing this on legal grounds and they are branded as
    communal.

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    AshishC Reply:

    Gopi,
    I stopped and talked with many shopkeepers, chai-wallas along the Deoband – Saharanpur stretch. They are unanimous – irrespective of religion- that Congress, SP, BSP have all looted them.
    Akhilesh will now get 90,000 Cr from UPA- what’s 100 crores?

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    Ravi Reply:

    All that means is, soon it will be the BJP’s turn to loot them.

    Is that not the case?

    AshishC Reply:

    How expected… :D
    I actually did not hear the BJP mentioned in the Deoband Saharanpur stretch- but that would be expected, would it not be? I doubt that area is their pocket borrough.
    That said, I actually inserted BJP along with the rest of the parties when I wrote it- fearing just this question- but, then cut it out.

    Ravi Reply:

    Ashish
    Please can you verify the following.

    There is large reservoir of hatred towards Mahatma Gandhi in Bengal due to the fact that he acted against Subhash Chandra Bose, and favoured Nehru.

    Marks out of 10 as to how true this statement is.

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    AshishC Reply:

    Hatred is probably too strong a word. But, yes, most Bengalis disapprove of the less than Mahatma like behaviour of MKG in getting Bose out of the way. You don’t?
    Personally, I am not fond of Gandhi- but, it has less to do with the Gandhi vs Bose thing and more to do with his economic vision, introducing religion into public life etc.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Removing duplicate

    Ravi Reply:

    Ashish

    Well I am not a blind devotee of MKG either, but I scarcely use my reverse projection system to throw some contemporary light on his past deeds and re-evaluate them.

    I asked the question only so as to get to grips with the intensity of your anger which adversely influenced your rationale as well as language.

    AshishC Reply:

    “I scarcely use my reverse projection system… past deeds and re-evaluate them..”
    I can’t believe my eyes.. is this the same Ravi who have been quoting Martha N’s re-interpretation of our epics? Martha can apply contemporary feminism to Sita and Draupadi and be applauded and I will be told off because I pointed to barely 80 year old history to make a point that injecting religious symbolism in our politics has “Father-ly” sanctions?
    LOL… that was a trap, Ravi. You fell into it. My rationality is never rationed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This is what I miss on this blog. Please make your visits more frequent.

    Ravi Reply:

    Ashish
    Claiming victory before the battle is over is a habbit found among politicians. Have you become a politician??
    I am at work today and will not be able to answer, but answer I will.
    So wait my friend.

  • Ravi

    A REVELATION INDEED

    I like to take a great deal of pride in the fact that I always endeavour to give credit where credit is due. I confess that until this afternoon I had never come across a man called John Dayal and I credit Gopi Thomas for indirectly introducing me to him. I read his biographical piece in the Wikipedia and found it very revealing. So revealing that I would like to share it with my friends.

    Hindutva

    In January 2002 the AICC issued a statement signed by Joseph D’souza
    and John Dayal asking State governments and the national government to prevent efforts by the Sangh Parivar to stir up communal violence in the Adivasi tribal belt in Northern India. It talked of a “vicious Hindutva communal rhetoric .. targeting Christians in the region”. It said RSS cadres were running schools that “follow a curricula and textual material, which is outside the pale of any academic and public scrutiny, blatantly rewrites history, and poisons young minds”.[14] In 2005 Dayal again expressed concern that Ekal Vidyalaya (“single teacher”) schools run by the RSS Hindu nationalist organization in tribal districts were spreading hatred towards members of the Christian minority.[15]

    Dayal has claimed that the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) has spent
    millions of dollars in an attempt to convert tribal people in central India
    into Hindu nationalists.[16] On 17 October 2004 a ceremony was organized
    by the World Hindu Council (Vishva Hindu Parishad – VHP) in Orissa at which about 300 tribal Christians were “reconverted” to Hinduism. Dayal said the event was part of a vicious and hostile hate campaign.[17]

    In a 2004 interview following the defeat of the Bharatiya Janata
    Party and the return to power of the Congress Party, Dayal said that the change was because “People have rejected the ideology of hate, consisting of xenophobia, narrow nationalism and a sustained persecution of Muslims and Christians”. He went on to compare Hindutva to neo-Nazism and Apartheid.[18]

    I LIKE JOHN DAYAL, a man after my own heart.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    As I mentioned, john Dayal is a piece of sh-t..Only in India, a garbage like him get into some secular committees and be a bigwig..
    Actually he is two pieces of shii…not one piece…

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    Ravi Reply:

    The TRUTH is that you don’t like him because he is anti RSS and other Hinduatva initiatives.
    Perfectly understandable. I only like him because he is anti Hinduatva and did not go to JNU

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Rav just for our knowledge. We know you have been taught J is for jehad and B is for bandook in your formative years.
    Can you please inform us on what do you think of Christan conversion to Idlam in your Pop;s land Pakistan?
    What is better. Islaic conversion to christianity or Muslim conversion to islam as per hafeex saeed?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Rav just for our knowledge. We know you have been taught J is for jehad and B is for bandook in your formative years.
    Can you please inform us on what do you think of Christan conversion to Idlam in your Pop;s land Pakistan?
    What is better. Islaic conversion to christianity or Muslim conversion to islam as per hafeex saeed?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Have you NOT read that this Johan Dayal is the same Christian Fundoo, who demanded proselytising rights for Christian missionaries in Tirupati, of all places?

    And didn’t you read what Francois Gautier wrote to him?

    “…..It is time Christianity in India becomes a little more humble and quieter. Nobody is contesting your faith, but please leave alone ancient places of worship like Tirupathi and great sages such as Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. And remember: Sonia Gandhi may not be here forever…”

    NOTE, PARTICULARLY, THE LAST SENTENCE.

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  • Ravi

    A REVELATION INDEED

    I like to take a great deal of pride in the fact that I always endeavour to give credit where credit is due. I confess that until this afternoon I had never come across a man called John Dayal and I credit Gopi Thomas for indirectly introducing me to him. I read his biographical piece in the Wikipedia and found it very revealing. So revealing that I would like to share it with my friends.

    Hindutva

    In January 2002 the AICC issued a statement signed by Joseph D’souza
    and John Dayal asking State governments and the national government to prevent efforts by the Sangh Parivar to stir up communal violence in the Adivasi tribal belt in Northern India. It talked of a “vicious Hindutva communal rhetoric .. targeting Christians in the region”. It said RSS cadres were running schools that “follow a curricula and textual material, which is outside the pale of any academic and public scrutiny, blatantly rewrites history, and poisons young minds”.[14] In 2005 Dayal again expressed concern that Ekal Vidyalaya (“single teacher”) schools run by the RSS Hindu nationalist organization in tribal districts were spreading hatred towards members of the Christian minority.[15]

    Dayal has claimed that the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) has spent
    millions of dollars in an attempt to convert tribal people in central India
    into Hindu nationalists.[16] On 17 October 2004 a ceremony was organized
    by the World Hindu Council (Vishva Hindu Parishad – VHP) in Orissa at which about 300 tribal Christians were “reconverted” to Hinduism. Dayal said the event was part of a vicious and hostile hate campaign.[17]

    In a 2004 interview following the defeat of the Bharatiya Janata
    Party and the return to power of the Congress Party, Dayal said that the change was because “People have rejected the ideology of hate, consisting of xenophobia, narrow nationalism and a sustained persecution of Muslims and Christians”. He went on to compare Hindutva to neo-Nazism and Apartheid.[18]

    I LIKE JOHN DAYAL, a man after my own heart.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Watch this aircraft landing . The landing gear had failed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=zbfZxvsDp3c

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  • vijay !

    Been a long 24 hr day. Client meetings, tennis and a birthday party of a close “friend”/ Where under the influnece of 4 peggs of Johny walker I gave a lecture on what is bad science… Vastu for example… to the close friends father… and earned 100 bad marks !!

    But to caome back to the blog…

    Man ! I feel this Modi scare is making the Congrssis go crazy from both ends..

    The only way the COngrss can combat modi is by imporvng its character.
    Stop being dynastic ( Delhi where Sandep dixit has been launched by Ma Sheela)

    Stop being chor and dyanstic ( kuldeep hooda taking money for land caonverson and claiming the gaddi)– Haryana.

    Stop being chor, lootera, poxcketmaar and nternational level mafiosi and dynastic successor– jagan being a typical Congressi– Andhra
    Stop being chor, lootera, Dahla, pimp lier, fake CD shop owner and Congress
    supporter— Amar Sngh Dahla…
    Stop being a moron, cmmunal divider, dyynasty prop, supporter f dividing India— Baby G
    I can give you a list of 100 congressis. But then Ravi, Mahor and co will only cry out Modi Modi rape rape.
    Guys… yaad akho. It is time to learn from Modi rather than create fiction on how bad he is !1

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Very good Vijay. hum ko aise yuvak chahiye.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Thx Pankaj…
    Gmorng from Delhi… Going for my jog… will wait for MOhan’s joke…

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  • vijay !

    Been a long 24 hr day. Client meetings, tennis and a birthday party of a close “friend”/ Where under the influnece of 4 peggs of Johny walker I gave a lecture on what is bad science… Vastu for example… to the close friends father… and earned 100 bad marks !!

    But to caome back to the blog…

    Man ! I feel this Modi scare is making the Congrssis go crazy from both ends..

    The only way the COngrss can combat modi is by imporvng its character.
    Stop being dynastic ( Delhi where Sandep dixit has been launched by Ma Sheela)

    Stop being chor and dyanstic ( kuldeep hooda taking money for land caonverson and claiming the gaddi)– Haryana.

    Stop being chor, lootera, poxcketmaar and nternational level mafiosi and dynastic successor– jagan being a typical Congressi– Andhra
    Stop being chor, lootera, Dahla, pimp lier, fake CD shop owner and Congress
    supporter— Amar Sngh Dahla…
    Stop being a moron, cmmunal divider, dyynasty prop, supporter f dividing India— Baby G
    I can give you a list of 100 congressis. But then Ravi, Mahor and co will only cry out Modi Modi rape rape.
    Guys… yaad akho. It is time to learn from Modi rather than create fiction on how bad he is !1

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  • Anonymous

    Pankaj
    Absolutely right, Pankaj. Commission for this, commission for that minority, etc has elevated real sh-t, flies smelling the sh—, etc to chairmanship etcx of sh–y commissions. John Dayal, who would have been killed in any other country for insinuating hatred thrives in this country vomiting venom

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  • vijay !

    Very true… !

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  • Anonymous

    Fruits conversation.

    Apple: I look like human heart.
    Mango: I look like stomach
    Grape: I look like eyes
    Orange: I look like face
    Banana: Please change the topic.

    Good morning friends.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    banana: na na na, aisi batein nahin karte bachche!

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Ravi: I look like Hafeez Saeed… and smiling cobra now in heaven, gen Zia…

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  • Anonymous

    Egypt: Process of writing new constitution is on. Military does not want Sharia
    while Brotherhood wants moderate Sharia as part of constitution.
    We will get a clue to the future when new constition is approved.

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  • Anonymous

    Pankaj ji, Gopi, Vijay Kumar,

    you all have described these fundoos appropriately: pieces of sh.t. Johan Dayal is a proselytising sh.t and fake Ravi, who admires him is the fly which loves to enjoy the sh.t.

    In this new love for Johan Dayal, fake Ravi looks like having given up the company of engrich, another piece of sh.t.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ I never had any doubts that Engrich, Ravi, Tajendra and ram autar were the same persons.

    A fake attempt under instructions from handler Lahkvi had Ravi trng to come out as managala also… :)

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  • Anonymous

    Just now watching NDTV on subject of admission in DU.
    Cut of for science stream is 99.25% and for commerce 97%.
    I think this is crazy.
    When I was in school in early seventies the student at the top of the
    class would maximum get around 75-76%.
    Now a days students must be in extreme pressure to perform.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Most of the men too are under “extreme pressure to perform”.

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  • Anonymous

    Virbhadra Singh charged in graft case, he says the case is concocted

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/virbhadra-singh-charged-in-graft-case-he-says-the-case-is-concocted-235854

    His name was on Team Anna list of 15 people against whom they wanted
    FIR to be filed.

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  • Anonymous

    Agree with you that there are people who only get attracted
    to shit.

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    Ravi Reply:

    I think you are mightily handsome.

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  • Anonymous

    Mahesh,

    Where are you ? Have not heard from you since quite some time. Hope everything is OK with you. Would love to meet you when I am in Bombay
    next time. Mainly because I want to see whether in person also you speak
    the same incomprehensible language which you use on this blog.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    I think Mahesh is writing the longest post of his blogging career, so that he can confuse the maximum people, including Vinod Sharma himself.

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  • Anonymous

    Woman TV anchor suspended for wrong hair cut

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/SouthAsia/Woman-TV-anchor-suspended-for-wrong-hair-cut/Article1-878676.aspx

    A Muslim TV anchor’s decision to support cancer awareness by chopping off her hair has cost the woman her job at a Malaysian channel, which wants her to grow back her mane to an “acceptable” length before being allowed to resume her work. Popular Malaysian NTV7 news anchor and television personality Ras Adiba Mohd Radzi has also claimed to have received anonymous calls abusing her for defying a ‘fatwa’ prohibiting women from shaving their head, local media reported today.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    She should be happy that she is not stoned to death…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    May be she is really lucky that she is in Malaysia and not the fundoo banana republic of Pakshit stan

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If this is the state of affairs in an evolved, progressive Islamic state, you can imagine how women are treated in the rigidly Islamic states like Saudi and Pakistan.

    Incidentally, Madhu Trehan of the India Today used to appear on TV with a completely shaved head!

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Yes Minister! You’ve got it right

    Pradipta K. Mohapatra

    Kapil Sibal needs to be commended for upholding the importance of Class
    12 marks for admissions to institutes of higher education

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/article3569957.ece?homepage=true

    After visiting New Delhi in the mid-1970s, the editor of an important American newspaper, the story goes, wrote that only in two places are Indians not permitted to have a drink at a five-star hotel — South Africa, and India!

    Sadly, some 40 years later, that story could well be about Indian degrees and diplomas. India’s Class 12 certificates issued by the Indian Certificate of Secondary Education (ICSE), Central Board of Secondary Education (CBSE) and various State Boards are accepted as a qualifying score for an admission to undergraduate classes in more than half of the top 200 universities in the world. The only country where these certificates are not accepted (or scores not recognised) is India itself. Why else would we run a plethora of entrance tests for admission into universities or institutes, the Indian Institutes of Technology (IIT) included? It is well recognised that there is great discrepancy between boards. The Odisha Board of Secondary Education may not be comparable to say, Delhi. But going by the number of students from Odisha crawling around Delhi University, this may not be entirely correct.

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  • Anonymous

    How Japan keeps Jehaadis & Missionaries at bay.

    http://skanda987.wordpress.com/2012/05/17/how-japan-keeps-jehaadis-missionaries-at-bay/

    Not only the Jehaadis but also read how Japan keeps the vulture missionaries
    at bay and how the proud Japanese preserve their native Japanese culture. They
    are indeed a very (much) evolved race, these Japanese and take no prisoners when
    it comes to preserving their ethos. Something we Hindus sadly lack in spite of
    having an equally great or shall one say even better ethos.

    Have you ever read in the news paper that a political leader or a Prime
    Minister from an Islamic nation have ever visited Japan? Have you ever come
    across any news paper that King of Iran or Saudi Arabia has visited Japan?
    Japan, a Country keeping Islam and Christianity at bay.

    I m not sure whether this news is trure.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Some more ****

    One of few Japanese terrorist organisation is Aum Shinrikyo…..read on

    Aum Shinrikyo (currently known as Aleph) is a Japanese cult, listed as a terrorist organization by several countries. The group was founded by Shoko Asahara in 1984. The group gained international notoriety in 1995, when it carried out the Sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway.
    The name “Aum Shinrikyo” (オウム真理教, Ōmu Shinrikyō?) derives from the Sanskrit syllable Aum, which represents the universe, followed by Shinrikyo written in kanji, roughly meaning “religion of Truth”. In English “Aum Shinrikyo” is usually translated as “Supreme Truth”. In January 2000, the organization changed its name to Aleph in reference to the first letter of the Arabic alphabet, Hebrew alphabet and Phoenician alphabets. It changed its logo as well.

    Not flushed away yet!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Der aaye durast aaye. Aum cannot be associated with terrorism
    that is why they were not getting any backing and funding. They
    realized their mistake and changed the name appropriately and became more famous.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Keep taking the pills….you never know they might work.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ???

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  • Anonymous

    A boy and a girl sitting in a expensive restaurant.

    Boy : I love you
    Girl : I hate you
    Boy : You sure ?
    Girl : Yes, I am.
    Boy : Waiter, bill for me alone.
    Girl : Hey hey I love you.

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  • Ravi

    To my adversaries…..

    Therapy helps but screaming obscenities is quicker and cheaper.

    Carry on cursing.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Measure for measure, you will be countered. You will not be allowed to spread your jihad here.

    You do need therapy, may be even surgery. If ISI doesn’t foot the bill, you may come once again to Bangalore and approach Saibaba Hospital.
    This Hindu fundoo organisation may still come to your rescue.

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  • Anonymous

    What happened to Digryodhan Singh? He is silent on Abu Jundal Ansari. I am waiting for him to say the innocent man is spied on by Chidambaram’s Intelligence units.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He along with Salman Khursheed and Ms. Gandhi are busy crying
    over his arrest.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    I forgot to ask you one thing.. When you were in China, was there any coverage of Bo xili (the guy from Chiquong (?) province who is in jail for attempting to sabotage polit bureau )

    I read from foreign press that the whole thing may be a turning point for China

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Frankly I did not read any Chinese paper. Even in the
    hotel where I was staying the news papers available were
    in Chinese. I had been very busy also to take out
    time for other things.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi, Mohan,

    I have received information that Digvinash Singh is busy preparing a statement for the media exposing Abu Jundal’s close links with the RSS and how, before surrendering to the Delhi police, he had a secret meeting with Mohan Bhagwat, for giving final touches to the RSS plans of doing away with top leaders like Digvinash Singh himself.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I can see Mahesh Bhatt and fellow secularists blaming the caustic hinduwta environment that transforms innocents like Ansari into terrorists like Abu… The media has already started how the boy from Beed became a monster from Saudi Arabia

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There is a TOI report – link provided above by Mohan – about a Maharashtra minister, Fauzia Khan’s connection with the terrorist.

  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS……………………BREAKING NEWS
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LeT founder Hafiz Saeed collecting donations for militants active in Kashmir
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    FAKE RAVI WILL BE MIGHTY PLEASED WITH THIS FUNDING DRIVE.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Digryodhan will host him!

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  • Anonymous

    “Beware of the fire within”

    On Mumbai fire, “morality police” (Mohan – similar to the teratment to the Malaysian female anchor)…

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/people/Beware-the-fire-within/articleshow/14389640.cms

    Manohar, the harassing of the youth he refers to — is it only in Mumbai/a Shiv Sena thing ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    A good article. A joke on this ACP Mr. Dhoble.

    Dhoble arrested a young girl for prostitution because he found her
    playing badminton in short skirts and a shuttleCOCK in her hand.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good one Mohan!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This moral policing using archaic laws will kill the spirit of Bombay.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It will… wonder why seculars and NGOs do not take ths up

  • Anonymous

    Sangma was in the city to meet Jagan Reddy..Jail authorities refused his request; he made a big fuss that he acme all the way from Delhi to meet him.

    He is working hard for “each” vote! .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sangma should have spoken to Jagan on the mobile phone.

    These days Jagan does Rs.100 crore turn over from the jail on the mobile!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There has not been any news about Jagan since the by elections. i hope Congress is not striking a deal with him!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vote aur note ke liye kuch bhi karega.

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  • Anonymous

    Maharashtra minister denies links with Abu Jundal, says ready to face inquiry

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Maharashtra-minister-denies-links-with-Abu-Jundal-says-ready-to-face-inquiry/articleshow/14410840.cms

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    Anonymous Reply:

    TOI report says there was an allegation that he stayed in her hostel room in 2006 also, which she denied at that time. Now, this new allegation of 2009 stay.

    Fauzia Khan should be dropped from the ministry and an investigation started immediately..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    agree

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  • Anonymous

    I passed through Walayar check post (Coimbatore to kerala gateway) over the weekend. There was a two hour wait for all the “inspections”, the heat was terrible.

    Two weeks ago I was in US for three weeks. I/my friend drove from Chicago to Cleveland to Philadelphia to Baltimore to Washington DC on their interstate highway system, spreading across many states. There was no check post at the entry of each state (Other than a welcome sign), no checking. The only fee was toll fees collected on certain stretches. The driver breezes through the highway sytem at 65MPH average (speed limit varies from 55MPH to 75MPH) without having to stop for anything other than food/rest etc.

    US states have different rates of sales tax, certain products are highly taxed in certain states. But they do not have this nonsense of checking and blocking.

    I advocate that the check post system be scrapped. It is a bureaucrartic wastage, corruption source, and nuisance.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    You have yourself given the reason why we have such check posts.
    Bureaucrartic wastage, corruption source, and nuisance. No other

    reason is not required.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A total rethinking is needed about our systems of administration, government etc.. We have too much government, and too little service.

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    Ravi Reply:

    We should encourage a Military take-over. Sorry forgot to specify which Military (Pakistan ofcourse)

    Gopi has connections at the right level.

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Ravi
    Please dont try get solutions from your fatherland Pakistan, here

  • pankaj#1

    All;
    It is just because of couple of people( bloggers here) and couple of columnists, that I will support Modi and RSS. without them, may be I would prefer to remain neutral.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    That is the story of these Modi scare creatng cowards. The more they create fiction to make people hate Modi… the more votes modi wlll get.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Modi has brought prosperity to his citizens. Jayalalitha is moving aggressively to make TN number 1 in many aspects.

    Prosperity trumps everything else at the end of the day. A rising tide minimizes and avoids unnecessary conflicts.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Problem is some people are not able to digest a rising tide
    only because it is Modi.
    For them Modi = BJP = RSS = Hindutva = Akhand Bharat = Second
    class citizenship for minorities.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, most of them are opportunists; a majority of the opinion makers will sing his songs once he drives the growth rate back to 9%

    Ravi Reply:

    I like it Mohan. Precise and accurate.
    Do you mind if I half inch it for future use (probably against you)
    I wonder what John Dalal would think of such prcision, such elegance of phrase and so much too the point.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    I tend to agree with you. Economic Development brings in its wake social progress in physical and emotional terms, which will act as a natural dampener on social and cultural tensions.

    Let us hope and pray India will see the old mantra, “sarve jana sukhino bhavantu” becoming active again.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj-
    Whom do these guys want – scoundrels like YSR/Jagan, karunanidhi, Maulyam or stupids like Mayawati, Mamta or dynasties and destroyers like Gandhis?i

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We hear of a soundly sleeping Jagan
    and we hear of a AP congress which is on Jagran!

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shenoy sahab;
    Who says that you are from South India. you speak for all India.
    Thanks.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    That is my dilemma as well.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    That is my dilemma too.

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  • Anonymous

    Sunny Leone has been approached by a bank to appear in an adv. for them.
    They are going to use her legs only to promote their ATM machines.
    The slogan is going to be : OPEN 24 HOURS.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    U serious or joking?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Seriously, I am joking.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    you are now getting into serious jokes. You may invite Sibbalian cuts.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy-

    Good word – “Sibbalian”. Like it..

  • Anonymous

    After Home ministry and Mumbai government fires, it is rumoured that the next to “catch” fire will be Sheila Dixit’s government.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Advise for Vijay, Ishwar, Pathak and other bloggers staying at Delhi.

    Stay away from government offices.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    thx

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak ji too?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Kya karoon mera dil kuch aisa hai.

  • Anonymous

    When I was kid *** meant donkey, **** meant rooster, ***** meant cat, and
    *** was always for tat. This English language has changed so much since then.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Very good.

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  • vijay !

    Arre baba

    Tora bora ka niwasi kahan gaya?

    maybe run out of gunpowder… or maybe realised that there is no point in spreading hate and terror in the country of Patel and Atal Bihari.

    Chalo in the end Satyamev jayate !

    Truth ultimately prevals!

    Vande matram !

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  • vijay !

    The Bu Jundal has exposed Mr Digviansh SIngh as never before.

    Sttrangely this anti national troll will remain Baby G’s mentor, appointed by order from Her majesty, the Congress maalken. Sonia G.

    Their shouting “RSS kis Saazish” even when India was attacked just shows how these RSS haters are wth Pakistan

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  • Anonymous

    Lots of coverage last few days about a highly probable extremist Muslim terrorist attack on London Olympics. CIA and M5 tracking increased chatter,

    I can imagine Ravi’s reaction. How come the press is not reporting the probable Hinduata terror at Olympics?.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    ha;

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    Anonymous Reply:

    (; (:

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    Ravi Reply:

    Are these new emoticons, let me consult my dictionary

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The more you spend time on this blog you will know more about me.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Binoy,

    Ravi is silent. Right now Abu Jundal the perpetuator of Mumbai attacks has been captured and again it has exposed the evil Congress whose cheif mentor sought to blame this on RSS, like idiots on this blog keep shouting RSS all the time. Imagine this chief mentor– Digvinash Singh is the teacher, preacher and guru of mandbuddhi Rahul G, who is being projected as next Pm by India’s Naukers !

    I think we should all make more fun of Ravi Osama who is sounding more and more loony !

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    Ravi Reply:

    Binoy how very kind of you to speculate what I may think and say.
    As usual you are so accurate that I am thinking of out sourcing my thinking to you as many of you have done here to the RSS.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Ravi

    I hope and wish that you dont become the suicide bomber in London Olympics… taking revenge for your mentor Osama’s al vida

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    You have become predictable, change your style . On second thought, no, remain as you are otherwise with whom I will disagree
    and argue/discuss.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Pridictable shite deserves predictable retort.

    If you think I am predictable, try reading Vijay Kumar Kkaploathya and your bestest buddy.

    There were two full moons in the month, last time they said anything original.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is natural for you to think of the moon.

    Luna and lunatics are related. Therefore, it is also okay for you to have seen two full moons in one month.
    Over the last few months, you have voluntarily positioned yourself as the spokesman of the LeT and other **** terrorist organisations. More often than not, you perform the loving duty of defending your adopted country, Pakshistan.
    But, as Mohan has perceptively noted, you have become too predictable. I will not be surprised if the ISI remove you from the dole list for this repetitious, boring performance on the internet.

  • Anonymous

    Fredrich Nietzsche, G B Shaw, Mark Twain, Confucius, Ayn Rand
    did not say this.

    A bachelor who goes to sleep with ” sex in mind ”
    Wakes up with a ” Solution in his hand ”

    Good morning friends.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    beuatifull !!

    More often than not… he remembers god

    And says

    Apna haath Jagannath…. !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are a bachelor, you know better than us.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    I believe many non bachelors are staunch practioners of this art. A friend of mine (married ) was caught in the act by his wife.

    For the past few years he has had some explaining to do…

    Her question,

    “Yeh kyon…
    Jab main hoon…”

  • Anonymous

    Last night I went to sleep happy after a number of media channels reported that Sarabjeet has been released by Pakistan. This morning, it turns out to be a cruel joke. Pakistan says that it is Surjeet and not Sarabjeet who would be released. How do we respond to the insensitives in the land of the pures? The least we should do is to kick out all the PKi artists, singers, comentators etc making money off us. Pakistan stinks and the Pakis are no different.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    About 10 years back we had a programme called India’s Most Wanted
    Every week they would show hard core criminals of our country whom
    police had not been able to catch. Looking at the popularity of this programme a Pakistani producer decided to make similar programme
    in his country. When he did the research, he was shocked to find out that almost everyone in Pakistan was most wanted. He dropped the idea. Ishwar, you are naive to expect anything good comming out of that
    criminal country.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Revive that program, please.
    many mysterious people are walking amongst us, who are also wanted type.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, I agree that it is indeed naive to expect anything better from the Pakistanis. I pray that we have enough spine some day to do what Israel does to the Palestinians in a similar situation.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Ishwar

    You have seen Ravi. You would now know Pakistan is a nation of thieves, dacoits, liers, crooks.,rapists, child molesters and what not.

    We are happy to have “SEPARATED AT BIRTH.”

    Nothing good will ever come out from there. As I showed that the education s so rotten that t only produces turds like Ravi and tajendar

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Separated at birth, but insufferable for life.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,
    I always tell my kid that we are indeed lucky to have separated at birth. I shudder at thought of living along with these scums of the earth. No wonder, the Pakis living in UK don’t admit it. They say that they are either from India or Bangladesh!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The officer who announced the release of Sarabjeet was under the influence of sharab.

    Today they will announce that it is not Surjeet but but Gurjeet Singh who would be released.

    Iss galati ke liye hum India se maafi nahin chahenge.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Ishwar

    Without going into the reasons for the mix up, may be due to some communication gap and / or the media misreading the announcement or they playing a dirty trick (I do not know), let me ask you – is the freedom of Surjeet Singh any less valuable than Sarabjeet Singh’s?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I’d answer you later this afternoon.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    manohar

    One has a whole life ahead of him and the other is a budda with a few years ahead of him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Surjeet Singh’s release is welcome. He had completed his prison term way back in Oct, 2010. Even as per the Pakistani law or their Military Act, his release was overdue. Even their law minister has admitted that his stay in a Pakistani jail any longer is illegal. So, his release is no clemency.

    By creating a deliberate confusion (or rolling back a well thought over decision) over the release of Sarabjeet Singh, the Pakistanis have shown their true colours. No other person can possibly value the joy of his family members, whose one of the kins is behind the bars mostly in solitary confinement in an enemy country for over 2 decades. The momentary joy the news of his release brought them was taken away within hours. It is akin to scratching an old wound which could have been avoided. To have a family member in jail is bad, to learn about his release being fake is a lot worse. Not that we expect anything better from Pakistan, but the point is can we inflict something similar or worse on them for their this act of cruelity?
    If I had the authority, I’d kick all the Pakistanis staying legally or otherwise out of this country. I am massively outraged.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    I understand that, however your original post said something else and my question was simple.

    As I said I do not know, perhaps you know better, as to what exactly happened? Whether they did it deliberately or was there a communication gap or misinterpretation (in a hurry there is all likelihood of people confusing Surjeet with Sarabjeet – the former totally a forgotten man, hence everybody thought it was Sarabjeet). If they did it deliberately – they are to be condemned.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar
    “If they did it deliberately – they are to be condemned’

    How many condemnations a country can make before it becomes a laughingstock to its citizens and to the world

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Iswhar

    Shvraj Patil, the ultimate Congress coward had made a grand plan probably under instructions from Sonia G to exchange kasab for Sarabjeet.

    Time of India in treu **** loving sentiment style has blown up as another success of Aman ki aasha type trash. Sarabjeet ghar aa gaya… as if it is their initiative.

    Furthermore SM Kriahsan even thanked Pakistan !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have seen Pakistan’s games for many years. They did this deliberately; it is not a mix up. This is another part of their “thousand cuts” strategy.

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  • vijay !

    Evil Ravi like Pakistani Terrorists will change ?

    No they wont.

    They only divert attention from Abu Jundal type arrests by releasing a prisoner…

    The Home of Engrich and **** Ravi… will always remain Pak-shit-stan…

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  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS========BREAKING NEWS
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    IS RAHUL ABOUT TO LOSE HIS IMAGE AS A CHILD POLITICIAN?
    ____________________________________________________

    Rahul Gandhi may be involved with the grand-daughter of the late Mohamed Zahir Shah, media reports states.According to a report published in The Sunday Guardian, the Afghan expat community is a-twitter with Rahul and the Afghan princess news.Reports state that the young lady, who has not been identified by name, is reported to be a converted Christian.The Sunday Guardian report states that some informants speak of the pair ‘praying together on Sundays’ in what they describe as a ‘home chapel’ at the residence of Rahul’s mother Sonia Gandhi.Rahul, who turned 43 last week, has been linked with more than one foreign girlfriend in the past.The Sunday Guardian said that the two (Rahul and the Afghan princess) have reportedly been seen together in the Aman Hotel in Delhi, who spends hours there in the Fitness Center, trying to develop biceps that can challenge those of Shah Rukh Khan and Robert Vadra.The report describes the young lady from the Afghan royal family as well brought up, with a gentle mien and a generous nature.The Sunday Guardian report said, Rahul’s buddies hope that, this time around the future PM will not walk away from a lady friend (as he has on numerous occasions in the past).
    http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=141473

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rahul Gandhi has joined RSS ?

    I could not complete earlier as somebody walked in my office.

    Akhand Bharat is the ‘Long term goal’ of RSS and Afghanistan is part
    of that. Rahul Gandhi by marrying this lady from Afghan Royal family
    will help achieve this goal.

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    AshishC Reply:

    Gosh; true? Ravi’s heartfelt desire to see RSS obliterated will now come true, though perhaps not in the way he anticipated.

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    Ravi Reply:

    I will give my right arm for it

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good news for you. You right arm is saved as in your life
    time RSS will not be obliterated.

    Ravi Reply:

    Precisely, but at least now u have a measure of how much I H A T E it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hate is the problem. Because of this your views have become blinkered. you are not able to look beyond your hate

    Ravi Reply:

    Just as your views are blinkered because of your blind devotion

    Anonymous Reply:

    My views are not blinkered because I don’t hate any person
    or any organization

    Ravi Reply:

    Hate is not the only material used when blinkers are created. Total love and deep devotion – which you have for Modi and the RSS – are also very good material for creating blinkers.

    Ravi Reply:

    Hate is not the only material used when blinkers are created. Total love and deep devotion – which you have for Modi and the RSS – are also very good material for creating blinkers.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You have already lost your religion, your imaan, dharam, desh, bhesh etc. and you have also lost face here on this blog,

    We don’t want you to lose your right arm too.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You have already lost your religion, your imaan, dharam, desh, bhesh etc. and you have also lost face here on this blog,

    We don’t want you to lose your right arm too.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    That is a good analysis.. and as the baby had claimed, he is a Brahmin

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    Anonymous Reply:

    She will be killed by Jehadis.

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    Ravi Reply:

    What type of Jihadi killed Rajiv Gandhi.?
    What type of Jihadi Killed Mahatma Gandhi?
    What type of Jihadi Killed Indira Gandhi?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rahul Gandhi’s girl friend, per this article, is an Afghani ex-Muslim girl, converted to Christianity.

    If she is a convert, she is in the cross hair of jehadis. If not, i have a bridge to sell to you.

    Ravi Reply:

    First answer the question before you start selling London Bridge to the Americans.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Gopi;
    It is time, all good muslims should leave this regressive type of islam, which is being practiced in Pakistan. Like christians, Hindus should also encourage such Shuddhi. you will find many people making a Q, for this opportunity. After all their ancestors were forced to adopt that barbarian, tribal religion on the point of a sword.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Strange that Gandhis are not dying of natural causes.
    Sanjay Gandhi died in a plane crash.
    Are they cursed ?

    Ravi Reply:

    I see you avoided to answer the question too??

    Anonymous Reply:

    All were killed by Jehadis who were fighting their own Jehad.

    Ravi Reply:

    What religion were these Jihadi’s and how long was their beard.

    Ravi Reply:

    What religion were these Jihadi’s and how long was their beard.

    Anonymous Reply:

    They were all different.
    Now it is the turn of your kind of jihadis.

  • Anonymous

    People are appointed ministers because of their expertise, or to cement the party position, or as a payback.

    I am not able to place SM krishna

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  • Anonymous

    what killed our economic boom?
    Ashok desai’s perspective on the mess we have.

    http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.in/2012/06/what-killed-our-boom-ashok-desai-on.html

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  • Anonymous

    Time of reckoning…
    On Sharad Pawar, the corruptor in chief..

    http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?200790

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Our country is in the hands of Crooks and Criminals.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    and then they fight against Anna Lok pal etc..even Manohar fights it..I just do not get it

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan-
    Sharad Pawar is the biggest crook ever… Sonia is a pauper compared to him!

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  • Anonymous

    Romance never dies.

    An old couple were lying in bed one night. The husband was falling asleep
    but the wife felt romantic and wanted to talk.
    Wife : You used to hold my hand.
    He held her hand for few seconds and tried to get back to sleep.
    Wife : Then you used to kiss me.
    He gave a kiss on her cheek and settled down to sleep.
    after about a minute wife said : Then you use to bite my neck
    He threw back the blanket and got out of the bed.
    Wife : where are you going ?
    Husband : To get my teeth.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A very good one/…

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  • vijay !

    Predictable Ravi… belching out **** propo-ganda from both Ends !

    Guys… of to my site again!! Nice to say that somethings in life remain constant. Like Pakistani Education system which produces fanatic, brainwashed like Ravi Osamas… whose brain will never change….

    What a life !!!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi says he is from Sialkot

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Actually he has a lot of ‘khot’ in him.

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  • Anonymous

    SM krishna says “abundant patience is required in dealing with Pakistan”.

    It is a true statement

    But the question remains, why even deal with them? Could that energy be spent on some other country – US, Bangla Desh, Mayanmar etc – which will help improve economy and living standards of our people.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Instead of abundant patience, our dear Krishna should remove his wig, scratch his pate and show a little impatience with Pakistan.

    We will move somewhere with that terrorists country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What will be a high impact ‘little impatience” strategy we can do? Their nukes complicates stuff

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Gopi;
    Denuke those bas….

  • pankaj#1

    My two posts have been censored?? Why??
    anyway, I will ty to repost them.
    first was, Mohan, that INDIA’S MOST WANTED programme need to be revived. many characters here are mysteriously walking amongst us.
    second was, Afghan princess, converted to Christianity. Now, Hindus should also encourage this conversion thing, as many many people will opt for this. anyway, as many of them are masque-rading here as Hindus.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    good suggestion.

    fake Ravi is masquerading here as a Hindu and then he is mosque-treading in Pakistan.

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  • Anonymous

    Shenoy, Mahadevan:

    Is Chandrababu Naidu a “spent” force in AP?

    Are “reddys” regrouping?

    Is Kamma/Chandrababu group on the decline?

    Is that place being taken by kapus?

    Who will be the likely partner of BJP in AP?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi-
    Jagan (Reddys) will be a force.
    TDP has been weakened.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Jagan will be a force
    TDP will be a farce.
    congress will be zero, of course.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi-
    Jagan (Reddys) will be a force.
    TDP has been weakened.

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  • Anonymous

    Shenoy, Mahadevan:

    Is Chandrababu Naidu a “spent” force in AP?

    Are “reddys” regrouping?

    Is Kamma/Chandrababu group on the decline?

    Is that place being taken by kapus?

    Who will be the likely partner of BJP in AP?

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  • Anonymous

    Archaeological Discovery of 2500 year old “industrial estate” off Tirupur/coimbatore…
    May be the industriousness/business acumen of that region has been there for ever??
    http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.in/2012/06/big-discovery-in-kodumanal-2500-year.html

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  • Anonymous

    Archaeological Discovery of 2500 year old “industrial estate” off Tirupur/coimbatore…
    May be the industriousness/business acumen of that region has been there for ever??
    http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.in/2012/06/big-discovery-in-kodumanal-2500-year.html

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  • pankaj#1

    Rahul shoiuld join ministry?? why, what are his achievements. Krishna is feeling threatened because of his incompetence and buying insurance??

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rahul’s achievements are that he lost big in Tamil Nadu, kerala, UP state elections after campiagning incessantly ..

    actually the huge loss in UP was his signature achievement!
    (and the emergence of a potential future PM , a young charismatic peopel-connected guy like Akhilsesh (another family dynasty) the most under reported event in our times)

    On the positive side, he did try to recruit youngsters.

    But Congress is like the middle Kingdoms – the eldest son or daughter inherits!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rahul’s achievements are that he lost big in Tamil Nadu, kerala, UP state elections after campiagning incessantly ..

    actually the huge loss in UP was his signature achievement!
    (and the emergence of a potential future PM , a young charismatic peopel-connected guy like Akhilsesh (another family dynasty) the most under reported event in our times)

    On the positive side, he did try to recruit youngsters.

    But Congress is like the middle Kingdoms – the eldest son or daughter inherits!

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  • pankaj#1

    Rahul shoiuld join ministry?? why, what are his achievements. Krishna is feeling threatened because of his incompetence and buying insurance??

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  • Anonymous

    Washington Times’ column on Muslim Brotherhood victory in Egypt.
    FYI, Wahington Times is a right wing type paper like Murdoch’s .

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/26/the-muslim-brotherhoods-egyptian-sweep/

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  • Anonymous

    We were discussing about Pakistan earlier.

    President of Pakistan Zardari was in jail for many years.
    Their former PM Gilani had spent about six years in jail.
    Their current new PM Raja Parvez Ashraf is fighting a corruption case
    against him.
    Jundal’s testimony proves that ISI was involved in 26/11 attack at Bombay.
    He told Delhi police that everybody celebrated at the success of
    their operation.

    How can we even think of trusting the nation of criminals.
    I will again say that cease all relations with that terrorist country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    mohan

    I agree .. We should cease.

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  • Anonymous

    Coke and Pepsi contain alcohol: Study

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/international-business/Coke-and-Pepsi-contain-alcohol-Study/articleshow/14433252.cms

    Will these soft drinks be considered as haram ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Is haram greater than harm?

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  • vijay !

    @ Ishwar

    Yes we are lucky that we were separated from Pakistan at birth. Some time back on an international flight a Pakistani sitting next to me commented that “Pakistan chotta jiya mulk haiga… par duniya kambdi hai….”

    – Pakistan is a small country,,, but the whole world trembles…

    He of course meant it as a joke. But then also added that many many Pakistanis are proud of this status,

    Even from the incoherent nonsense Ravi osama spouts form both ends, it is obvious these guys are brainwashed to their toenails. just keep shouting Hindu, Hinutva, BJP, RSS to divert all attention from terror bombings, massacre of women, jehad, massacre fo minoirites, child rape, and what not…

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  • vijay !

    If Rahul joins any Ministry… It would be gr8 !!

    In one stroke all his shortcomings would be revealed.

    Till now sycophants and slaves, especially in the media have tried to create spin that Rahul is Christ, Obama, Krishana, Buddha rolled in one. Basically all these spinners are favour seekers form teh COngress who get lucrative contracs or positions by their sycophantic slavery.

    However if rahul becomes a Minister– say the finance Minister, his so called sheen will wear of in 15 months.

    A direct comparison to say mODI WOULD THEN BE AVAILABLE.

    His abilty for answering questions and intelligence wuld then be obvious t the public.

    Yes… we can then also ask him… kya demoracy mein baap k gaddi by inheritence milne chahiye?

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan, Gopi, Vijay Kumar, Pankaj ji,

    Here is a quote from Rajnish ‘Osho’:

    “An ordinary woman is a need. Expecting a Cleopatra is greed.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I know nothing about sex, I am married.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    lord jagannath rules the world

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Is jindagi main sudhar sakte ho? I doubt.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ab is umar kya sudharna.

  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~ HAVE WE SUCCEEDED IN REVERSE BRAINWASHING RAVI? ~~~
    —————————————————————————————————

    The guns from Tora Bora and Muridke have been silent for a few hours now.

    Seems that the terrorists has gone into a shell.

    Is he lying low and preparing for a final assault as Pakis often do? Remember there was a hidden terrorist behind bushes during the Parliament attack.

    Is ISI agent Ravi Osama having a last bit of fun in Engrich’s manhole behind bushes?

    On the positive possibility…

    Maybe he is undergoing catharsis and will come in as a nationalist…. maybe he has dropped “osama and Hafeez Saeed zindabad….”

    And is learning vande Matram….

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    Astounding. You have gone beyond my expectations. Afterall, you are from IIT.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Thx Pankaj !!!

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    As far as Ravi goes, Bachhe ki jaan loge kya? he is at Singhvi, jiya’s and at so many place. why you expect him to be present always at this blog. His job description does not say that he is omnipresent.

    vijay ! Reply:

    :) I understand.!

    I dont push the baynet too hard and let him survive so that he gives us more entertaining spiel !

  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Sorry for cut and pate job.
    Speaking during a press conference in Islamabad, Khan said that the failure of Pakistan becoming an Islamic welfare state will be a deception for all Muslims residing in India, because Pakistan was “formed on the very basis of becoming an Islamic welfare state.”
    The PTI chairman said that there was no concept of welfare states in Europe and that they had taken this concept from the Muslim world. “They formed all the Scandinavian states based on this concept. They call it Omar’s law there. We need to bring our culture back to our own land.”
    Speaking on the issue of drone strikes, Khan said that he was happy to see former US president Jimmy Carter’s criticism on the drone attacks. “Carter openly criticised [US President Barack] Obama’s drone campaign and termed it as assassination. He said that it was not only a violation of international laws but also humanitarian laws.”
    “We have seen the Pakistani parliament’s resolution coming into place against drones, it is accepted worldwide that the drone campaign is wrong and the public support for it is on a downward spiral.”
    And this man could be next Pakistani PM. he speaks about : Our land, not L-nd. I hope. These thieves are sitting on Indian land. They deserve decimation, nothing less.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Pankaj

    Imran Khan would be the worst calamity for India. He derives his support from the terrorists in Pakistan and as Pervez musarraf said is “taliban without beard.:”

    He counts among his admirers a few media women in India who would be willing to concede kashmir in case Imran khan said so.

    Some years back I attended a party where the owner of one of India’s biggest media houses was giving Imran as much bhaav as I would give to Mallika Sherawat.

    The only solution to Pakistan is balaknisation , otherwise it will carry on its march of hurtign us and india. Its current spiel of aman ki aasha is based ongetting concessions in Siachin and Sir Creek without giving anything in return.

    UN should designate it as the **** state.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    Reading HT now and hearing radio.
    Rahman malik says, we are proud of ISI. After catching this bas… Abu jindal, and all the skeletons coming out of cubbord, including batala house culprits., please make a note, who is supporting these, bas…These supporters have to pay in next dispension, in this life, not in next life. just keep a note of them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Small criminals are in awe of big criminals. Same with Rehman Malik , a small criminal in comparison to ISI, is
    proud of them.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Can someone explain me what is difference between an Islamic
    welfare State and a normal welfare state?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj
    You are right. We should not give a time of the day to these guys. Decimation is ideal. But with their nukes we have to bear and go. US is in the same predicament.
    US/India should work together in denuking them as the first priority.

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  • Ravi

    All

    You may have seen – on you tube – an interview with Mohan Bhagwat during which he defends RSS’s insistence that in BJP ruled state schools, it is good and proper to insist that all pupils sing वन्दे मातरम् ।

    Predictably the Muslim leaders want Muslim pupils to be exmpted from singing this song. Their objection is based upon this notion that the song is a Hindu prayer and therefore against their religion.

    What ever the merits or otherwise of each of the arguements an unsavory row has festerd for over 6 decades.

    Here is my practical solution which would allow Muslims to participate in the singing when ever this song is sung. All they have to do is to sing alternative lyrics instead of the original.

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    AshishC Reply:

    This was in extremely poor taste. Not expected at all.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Some score settling and nothing more.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Did I miss something? You don’t normlly react in this way?
    I don’t see anything wrong in Ravi’s post.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Ravi

    I request that you ask yur camp head Hafeez bhai and Dawood Ibrahim bhai to sing this. What words!! They just have a chime in them. It would purge the hate and murder from the heart of JuD and LeT

    bônde matorom
    shujolang
    shupholang
    môloyôjoshitolam
    shoshsho
    shêmolang
    matorom
    bônde matorom

    shubhro
    jotsna
    pulokito jaminim
    phullo
    kushumito
    drumodôloshobhinim
    shuhashinim
    shumodhuro
    bhashinim
    shukhodang bôrodang
    matorom
    bônde
    matorom

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi

    “Vande Mataram’ a Hindu prayer???? never heard anybody putting it in that category!

    Why would Muslim leaders want this not to be recited? It is like a pledge of allegiance in the western countries. I can say with almost 100% probability that no Hindu household has this as a prayer!

    Anyway the appeasement of Muslims by Congress started when the leaders yielded to the Islamists not to have this as the national song..One by one, this yielding resulted in the country’s division. What did we (the remainder of the division) achieved? the same itching and scratching, as you yourself continue to do, continues even after 60 years.

    Unfortunately the Muslim leaders confused the creation with the creator… their hate and distrust of Bankim Chandra Chatterjee extended to his creation forcing the poem’s removal!
    .

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Gopi;
    Yes, it is laughable to say that..vande… is a religious prayer. it shows the total inability of sayer to understand Hinduism or anything about India and for obvious reasons. Why did muslims disliked bankim Chandra?? do you have some idea??

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Fake Ravi,

    these are stale issues. However much you may try to stir up some controversy, people at large are least bothered.

    I would advise you to confine yourself to your chosen path of spreading terror, so that like your mentor, Abu Jundal, you too may, some day soon, be caught and confined to where you belong: karaagriha.

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  • pankaj#1

    Vijay;
    Nitish has bagged 20000.00 crores from center for his support to pranab. would you like to continue, supporting a supposed to be a lost cause?? many wise persons are doing their bidding to get attention of power that be at center. Are you a loser?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    g morning Pankaj

    The sad fact is that the Congress plays politics using people’s money,

    Never in the history of India has there been a government as partisan as this, Basically use centrally collected taxes for getting the family into power, the party into power.

    Pranab has given this largesse to Bihar to finance his own elections! Sab saala baap ka paisa hai..

    BJP and NDA states are denied money unless they start grovelling in front of Baby G and Sonia G. It does not matter to the Congress that the people out there are struggling and suffering.

    All that a typical Congressi wants is “Jai mata Di…. ” ( sonia mata)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Congress has been doing this since many years. To get the support from other states, listen to their unreasonable demands and pay them tax payers
    money or use CBI to support them. That is the main reason they don’t want Lokpal because CBI will be no more under their controll.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Politics without policy

    André Béteille

    The acrimony between the government and the opposition has worsened to such an extent that it has subverted attempts to reach workable solutions to practical problems

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article3577559.ece?homepage=true

    The French sociologist and columnist Raymond Aron had pointed out that in English, there are two different terms, “politics” and “policy” whereas in his own language there is only one single term, “La politique,” to cover both. It is the same in German as in French, for the same German word, “politik,” covers both policy and politics. We should make use of the resources of the English language to reflect on a distinction that has acquired crucial importance in the present phase of our democratic system.

    The central concern of politics, as I understand it, is the pursuit of power. In a democracy the contest for power is never free from uncertainty and anxiety, and Indian politics is now marked by increasing turmoil. Those who make politics their career become accustomed to its turbulence and some even take a peculiar pleasure in it.

    ==

    Although politics and policy follow distinct compulsions and have different orientations, they need not act against each other. In the last 10 to 15 years politics has taken such a turn in India that it not only unsettles the environment required for making viable policies but openly subverts attempts to reach workable solutions to difficult practical problems.

    ==

    To say that the relationship between the head of the government and the head of the UPA has acquired a kind of stability is not to maintain that it can be made permanent or given an institutional form. Indian democracy has moved a long way since the country became independent and adopted a republican constitution more than 60 years ago. It has created new political arrangements as it has faced new political challenges. It has shown considerable resilience and in some ways strengthened itself even while setting aside old arrangements and established ways of thought and action.

    Jawaharlal Nehru, the first Prime Minister of independent India took charge of both politics and policy. His pre-eminence within the Congress party, particularly after the passing of Sardar Patel and the withdrawal of Rajaji, was widely, if not universally acknowledged. But his mastery of policy was also widely acknowledged, at least within his own party. It would be unrealistic to expect the present head of the Congress party to have the kind of grasp of policy matters that Nehru had or Dr. Singh has. It would be equally unrealistic to expect the present Prime Minister to deal with party matters with Nehru’s self-assurance.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “unrealistic to expect”??/ But then people suffer, is nt?

    Unraelistic to expect cannot be an excuse…

    But the fundamental problem lies in the stupid constitutition crafted by visionless people

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Because it is unrealistic to expect, we should just keep quiet
    Stop complaining and be happy with the things as they are.

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  • Anonymous

    Solanki, a relative of Gandhiji visited him and told him that he has been falsely
    implicated in a murder charge and asked Gandhiji to help him. After listening
    his story Gandhiji realized that Solanki was telling the truth. He fought his case
    in the court and won. Delighted Solanki said ‘ Bapu, thank you very much for saving me, but I am worried what will happen after you are gone, who will believe inocent peope like me and help?
    Gandhiji smiled and said ‘ Don’t worry, after I am gone my photo will save not only inocent peope but will help criminals also’
    Solanki ‘ Your photo Babu?’
    Gandhiji ‘ My photo on currency notes’

    Good morning friends.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The photo on the 1000 rupee note has Gandhiji smiling broadly.
    Any special significance?

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  • vijay !

    ———————————————————————————————————
    `~~ SICK Pakis, Ravi, ABU JUNDAL, Shoutiing Saffron all times ~~~
    ———————————————————————————————————–
    Abu Hundal the Pakshit-stani terrorist who masterminded ISI run operation
    26/11 has made monumantal revelatons
    A) ANOTHER 26/11 TYPE OPERATION IS ON TO TARGET DAMS AND NUCLEAR INSTALLATIONS USING PLANES. Abu Jundal himself took flight training in Karachi for this.
    B) They– the ISI and Pak-shit-stanis, wanted to give the 26/11 attqack a saffron color by getting the jehadis to wear Hindu maulis (threads) and apply Saffron tilak on forehead.
    Basic idea was to invoke RSS, Hindutva, Hindu ism— Much like ISI agent ravi Osama and his pyadaas do here.
    So let us all watch out.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Fake Ravi was recently in Bangalore.
    Looks like he was on a secret mission. Might have met Bhatkal brothers to plot another terror attack.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    yes SHenoy.

    We should check this out…

    I dont want him to blow himself up. He provides good entertainment here.

    The invocation of Saffron, Hindutva and RSS is similar to that of Jundal

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  • Anonymous

    Bad news of NRIs. Government of India has proposed a tax of 12.36% on
    remittances by NRIs to India.

    NRI organizations asked to protest 12.36% service tax on remittances

    http://twocircles.net/2012jun28/nri_organizations_asked_protest_1236_service_tax_remittances.html

    If implemented most of the NRIs will send money through un official channels.

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  • Anonymous

    CNN-IBN, IBN7 – Criminally Communal Channels

    http://www.mediacrooks.com/2012/06/cnn-ibn-ibn7-criminally-communal.html

    Out of nowhere you have Abu Whatever seen wearing
    a Saffron Kurta. IBN7 dressed him up him in ‘Saffron’ and that colour is
    symbolic with Hindus. The mischief behind altering a commonly circulated image
    is not lost on people. Of course, the journalistic-bimbo would disagree
    and suggest that isn’t Saffron but ‘Orange’.

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  • Anonymous

    On the 91st birth anniversary of Narasimha Rao, Times Of India carries a good article by Prof. Arvind Panagariya of Columbia University.

    Some excerpts:

    It’s unfortunate that the nation barely remembers Narasimha Rao, architect of the new India

    Fifty years from now when historians take stock of the makers of the new India, two individuals from our times will figure prominently on their lists: Prime ministers P V Narasimha Rao andAtal Bihari Vajpayee. If justice prevails, by then, the nation would have also honoured them with Bharat Ratna.

    In an all-but-forgotten television address on June 22, only a day after he took the oath of office, he placed before the nation broad contours of the new policy framework.

    “We are determined to address the problems of the economy in a decisive manner,” Rao said in his stoic voice. “This government is committed to removing the cobwebs that come in the way of rapid industrialisation. We will work towards making India internationally competitive, taking full advantage of…opportunities offered by the evolving global economy…We also welcome foreign direct investment so as to accelerate the tempo of development, upgrade our technologies and to promote our exports. Obstacles that come in the way of allocating foreign investment on a sizable scale will be removed. A time-bound programme will be worked out to streamline our industrial policies and programmes to achieve the goal of a vibrant economy that rewards creativity, enterprise
    and innovativeness.”

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/opinion/edit-page/A-forgotten-revolutionary/articleshow/14434370.cms

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The way things are happening, most probably the names of these
    two PMs will not appear in history 50 years down the line. They will be forgotten and the credit of all the achievements will be bestowed on
    members of Gandhi family.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Fake history is being written in JNU and HRD ministry that economic liberalization occurred because of Sonia G…

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Wonder is these crooks succeed. why, there is a 300 million strong
    middle class, at least they should understand all these sheningans. aas, they too are divided on the basis of language, caste, religion and greed.

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  • Anonymous

    A beggar is asking a friendly donor: “Sir, I heard that the rupee is falling. Any idea where it is falling?”

    Can anybody help this beggar catch a few of them?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    By the time this beggar get hold of this rupee the value of the rupee would have declined to 10 paise only.

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  • Ravi

    Reverse Projection of Orange Light.

    Ashish

    With some fanfare you claimed that I had fallen into your carefully laid trap and that represents victory for you and defeat for me.

    Not so fast mon ami I would like to examine your trap and my alleged fall into it.

    Your main point is that someone like me, who unashamedly promotes Wendy Doniger, has no right to accuse others – you for instance – of making use of reverse projection system, when talking about history. The two incidents currently under discussion are the Khilafat Movement and Sita’s character as Wendy Doniger (and not Martha Nussbaum as you indicated) portrays it.

    Your point is that whilst you exercise great caution – when interpreting the Khilaft movement – that you do not use any reverse projection system, even when fitted with an Orange bulb. Whereas you believe that Wendy Doniger makes frequent use of reverse projection system, which she has fitted with a Pink bulb. My opinion is that you are wrong on both these points and I will show why I hold that opinion.

    History – as someone said is the construction of a plausible story based upon available artefacts and other tertiary sources. Ramchandra Guha has a superb article which talks in detail about artefacts and how Historians should or should not use them. I will let you discover that for yourself.

    Khilaft Movement took place just under 100 years ago. Sita is supposed to have lived more than 3000 years or so ago. The amount of artefacts, and other secondary sources, available for the Khilafat Movement far exceed those that are available for Ramayana (Sita’s character).

    A contemporary Historians scope for re-interpreting any aspect of the Khilafat movement is constrained by the abundance of tightly grouped artefacts that are easily accessible. However, the same is not true for Wendy, who was looking at ancient writings and other; difficult to access, antiquated and widely spread historical artefacts.

    Furthermore, Ramayana doubles up as a Holi book (though J L Nehru did not think so) as well as a historical document. Those who oppose her are coming from the devotional rather than the historical angle. She is a pre-eminent Sanskrit Scholar and boasts many learned Indians among her students, Charan Das readily comes to mind, but there are many more who are not as well known.

    Khilafat – despite your jibes aimed at liberals – is not a religious movement. Best that could be said about it is – that it is a political movement which tactically employs religion to further its political objectives.

    So Wendy does not make use of any reverse projection, in fact she warns readers at various places in her book the danger of using contemporary values whilst interpreting ancient characters. She would be a poor scholar if she did not do that.

    My support of her is based on two readings of her book whilst your opposition is based upon hear say. I recommend – and not for the first time – that you do read her book even if you have no intention of changing your opinion.

    Game Set and Mismatch.

    ++++

    To say that Porgy & Bess is mediocre is to advertise one’s taste in music, to say Ram Puniyani is mediocre is to shoot the messenger because one does not agree with his message.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Abu Jundal blames everything on Saffron as you do. Camp mates or room mates?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Wendy also has written her book on hearsay. It is not her considered opinion but her opinion on somebody else’s biased opinion.

    No doubt FAKES like you approve and admire other fakes like Wendy.

    “Microsoft Encarta came to an internal conclusion about Doniger’s lack of scholarship and objectivity”

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    AshishC Reply:

    I read this just now; because I trawled through Disqus- confident that you would live upto your threat :)
    Firstly, I would happily admit to not even knowing who/ what is/ are Porgy and Bess. Philistine is my middle name; but, you already knew that.
    You and me have been over the Wendy debate many times- suffice it to say, Wendy’s interpretations have been shown to be week at best and tendentious at worst- we went over all of that (including a rather violent debate over the Outlook link Mohan posted). Wendy’s rejoinder to the article was rather weak.
    Khilafat was a movement that had very rich religious overtones and what is more pertinent and germane to our discussions is Gandhi’s reason for espousing the Khilafat cause. He obviously felt it would get him Sunni Muslim support. (As an aside, if you must know, the RSS historians interpret Jinnah’s opposition to Khilafat movement as not stemming from secular principles but in terms of Shia-Sunni schism; Jinnah was a Shia).
    Isn’t Ram Rajya non-secular? On a side note, what does Wendy think of Ram? Is Ram Rajya really an idyll?
    More to the point, if Ram Rajya is kosher, then a Rath Yatra is uber kool.
    Back to your take off on Vande Mataram- there are 2 points which I object to. First, you get abused- from folks on this blog- who may well be on the Hindu right. So, you retaliate by mutilating a national song- that missed becoming the national anthem by a whisker- hundreds of freedom fighters have sacrificed their lives with that song on their lips. And, does the Hindu right own that song? Notice, the only person frothing at the mouth is me.
    So, your logic is faulty. In your rage, and I am never saying the rage is not justified, you are hitting out blindly and Vande Mataram is an unjustified target.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Ashish
    Any doubts lefft that Engrich and Ravi are the same person? See my posting above and also Engrich’s reply to Ravi on Zia’s blog.

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    AshishC Reply:

    1. I dont visit Zia’s blog anymore. I do read the topic headlines- they provide me endless mirth.
    2. Engrich has 2 avatars- one in which he cuts and pastes from random sources; good English and the other, himself- bad English.
    I know Ravi; it will take Engrich a few rebirths to become Ravi.

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Ashish
    That is not a cut and paste job. it is a letter wrtten to Ravi which talks about “our PM’ cameroon attacking jehadis. If you read it you will sense that it cannot be a cut and paste job as it point by point praises ravi’s earlier posting.
    It is just Ravi wrting under the name of Engrich, having forgotten to put on the style, as he was probably under th influence of ale…

    Ravi Reply:

    हम को मालूम है जन्नत की हकीक़त लेकिन
    दिल के खुश रखने को ग़ालिब यह ख्याल अच्छा है.

    Ravi Reply:

    Ashish
    Like most people you completely misread my post. Perhaps it is my drafting that is at fault, all of you can not be wrong.

    Whilst my post contained comments about Khilafat as well as Wendy, the post was wrt to Reverse Projection. See the title, it is just above your name.

    As you say we have discussed Wendy before and any further discussion will be akin to chewing gum – an illusion of eating will be cretaed with little or no nutrition being ingested.

    I have – against my basic instincts – decided to respond to Gopi on Khilafat and both posts are further up.

    WRT Vande Matram, ask Mr Khaploathya who introduced it in one his posts which I guess you did not read.

    Porgy & Bess is an Opera written by George Gershwin Lyrics by Ira Gershwin

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  • vijay !

    ————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~THE STRANGE CASE OF ABU JUNDAL ~~ wanting to blame saffron~~
    ———————————————————————————————–

    We have seen on this site that there is a tendency to blame hindus… even when you get a cold. Hindu- RSS-BJP is the war cry of a lot of fakes in India and outside.

    Strangely ABu Jundal wanted to use this weakness of Indian media and some ISI inspired individuals. He applied a saffron Tilak onto Kasab and other Paksitanis and sent them to India….

    In the end they managed to fool Baby G, Antulay, Digvinash…

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  • Anonymous

    Gentlemen,

    Please go through this article. This is a perfect rebuttal to this ‘ Sanskrit Scholar”
    Ms. Wendy Doniger.

    Oh,
    But You Do Get It Wrong!

    Wendy Doniger (1) falsely and unfairly brands all of her critics as right-wing
    Hindutva fundamentalists, and (2) grossly mischaracterizes (and misquotes) the
    text of the Valmiki Ramayana

    http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?262511

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  • Anonymous

    Manohar,

    Heavy rain in Bombay. I am sure you must enjoying the weather with a glass
    of beer in hand. Here in Dubai tempreture is 46-47 degree and we are still
    not in July.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    Abu Jundal’s capture has left many “secular” congressies devastated. Particularly, his revelations about the 26/11 terrorists wearing the sacred thread of brahmins and saffron threads around their wrists. This troll was most vociferous about Hindu terrorists and naturally he has fallen silent and become sullen.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    In case Kasab had not been captured many many fake ghadiyali aanson wala would have started shouting RSS – BJP in 26/11 as Antulay and Digvinash ji tried to do….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay, Shenoy Saab, Mohan
    Secularism today is a ruse , a ploy , to provide a mask for all sorts of Corruption .. criminal .. mafia or even anti-national activities. The list of the beneficiaries of this ruse is too long . wide and quite formidable.

    manohar_T Reply:

    It was raining very heavily since last night, but by 2 PM the rain has stopped, though it is still cloudy. Currently the temperature here is 29C.

    As per Met Dept bulletins, there is 30% shortfall so far all over the country and that is not a good news. Let us if it will be made up.

    I had gone to Churchgate / Fort area for some work and have just returned. I have also been busy helping my daughter with her career planning (she plans to do her MBA in HR). She passed out with flying colours in her B.Com (Hons.) examination. Hence have been away from my PC for considerable periods of time.

    We will surely have beer when we meet next month.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We had good rains..

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  • Anonymous

    This what Shekhar Iyer , Associate Editor HT had to say in a chat today
    ” Shekhar Iyer: Pranab was not Sonia’s choice. The Congress president would have preferred someone who is not “too intelligent” for that office and would not be politically ambitious as Pranab. But, events, for the first time, overtook her. ”

    So whatever the media spin on Sonia’s great win in getting her candidate through . The truth is otherwise.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If she wanted not too intelligent than her son was the perfect choice
    Not at all intelligent.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sonia actually would have been happy to have as president, somebody with a low level of intelligence and zero intellectual accomplishments like her own self, but, as Iyer said, events overtook her.

    As for our media, anything happening in India brings victory for Sonia Gandhi. Even when she returned after her surgery, our worshipful media said she has returned healthier and stronger.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The more I think about why she did not nominate Jagan to CMship when YSR died, I do feel she made a smart forward looking decision. Had she nominated him then, the whole Congress in AP would have been under the thug whereas now he does not have the whole.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    I hopt the COngres president does nto send instructions to HT to tame Shekhar Iyer

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  • vijay !

    ——————————————————————————-
    ~~ MORE DIRT FROM MURIDKE~~ JUNDAL SINGS ISI ~~
    ——————————————————————————–
    New Delhi: Abu Jundal aka Abu Hamza, the alleged 26/11 handler now being interrogated in Indian custody, is said to be the highest-ranked Indian in the deadly Lashkar-e-Taiba group. More details are now emerging about this man with 10 aliases.

    Humza allegedly got involved in planning for the 26/11 Mumbai terror operation at the beginning of 2008.

    Sources say Hamza, as the Indian in the group, was the one who trained the terrorists who attacked Mumbai on what to wear, what to say etc. Hamza, who belongs to Beed in Maharashtra, speaks Marathi, Urdu, Hindi and also a bit of Arabic.

    Sources say interrogation has revealed that Hamza, as Abu Jundal the handler, met the 10 Mumbai attack terrorists twice. Once in the initial days, when he taught them Hindi. Then he met them a few days before the attack, when allegedly he briefed the terrorists on Mumbai – the roads, means of transport and the people. Hamza has reportedly said that the 10 terrorists found it difficult to comprehend how a single city could have several railway stations; Hamza helped them understand how to reach some of them.

    He has reportedly said that as the attacks on Mumbai began, he was in a control room near the international airport in Karachi. Supervising the operation there, he has been quoted as saying, were ISI officers and Lashkar commanders including Zaki-ur Rehman Lakhvi. He has reportedly said that he was in the 26/11 control room for just for one day – the first day of the operation – after which he was removed and asked to “take rest” by Lakhvi.

    After Ajmal Kasab became the only terrorist to be captured alive during 26/11, Hamza has allegedly said that all handlers including him were asked to leave Pakistan. After 26/11, Hamza allegedly traveled out of Pakistan on a Pakistani passport issued in the name of Risat Ali. He operated in Saudi Arabia for about a month scouting for new recruits for the Lashkar, but US intelligence officials and India were alerted to him after he made a call to Pakistan, that was tracked down by the US. He was soon arrested and was duly deported from Saudi Arabia to Delhi and is now being interrogated by intelligence officers and the Delhi Police.

    “We identified him almost a year ago…it was a well-guarded secret…we tracked him. I think the world appreciates how India is going about tracking every one of the 26/11 masterminds,” Home Minister P Chidambaram said yesterday.

    India is firm that Hamza’s confessions so far indicate that Pakistani state actors were involved in the 26/11 terror operation. But Pakistan’s advisor to the Interior Ministry Rehman Malik rejected Home Minister P Chidambaram’s statement yesterday, saying neither his country’s Inter-Service Intelligence (ISI) nor any other state agency was involved in terror activities. Mr Malik tweeted today in reference to Abu Hamza, “Having a forged passport does not entitle someone to be a Pakistani.” And then, “Pakistan and India needs to work together to act against these terrorists/extremists.”

    In discussions with India about its own investigation and trial for those connected to 26/11, Pakistan had told India that Abu Hamza had been arrested. When asked how Hamza had then managed to leave the country, Mr Malik said this was not the same man listed in a dossier shared between the two countries.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A Pakistani national Aga Husain Abdi had started a bank, BCCI – Bank of credit and commercial International – which was later nicknamed as
    Bank of crooks and criminals International in seventies. This bank was head quartered in Switzerland. In nineties it was found that
    this bank was involved in funding terrorists and drug traders.
    They were even named in funding terrorist activities in Kashmir.
    Their Bombay office use to open accounts in fictitious NRI names to earn high rates of interest. US and UK after knowing about their criminal
    activities took action to close this bank.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Yes Mohan;
    That bank was fully supported by pakistani state to facilitate, financial aspect of terrorism. i remember that incident.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    well, Viju, it will end up without any action because NCP would not want to upset the voting block of Marathwada region and Congress would not want to upset the voting block in North India..

    They will find a way to create a scenario that the boy was driven to extremism because RSS destroyed his slum…

    The media has already started crafting stories about how a lily white innocent from Beed became a monster terrorist.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Do you think Sonia G, Baby G, Digviansh G and Salman G are already crying?

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  • Anonymous

    An old lady was standing at the railing of the cruise ship
    holding her hat tight so that it would not blow away in the wind.

    A gentleman approached her and said,
    “Pardon me, madam.
    I do not intend to be forward
    but did you know that your dress
    is blowing up in this high wind?”

    “Yes, I know,” said the lady.
    “I need both my hands
    to hold onto this hat.”

    “But madam, you must know that you are
    not wearing any panties
    and your privates are exposed!”
    said the gentleman in earnest.

    The woman looked down,
    then back up at the man
    and replied,
    “Sir, anything you see down there
    is 85 years old.
    I just bought this hat yesterday!”

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Gopi;
    Why it is that these muslims always, get light punishment and succeed in bumping of people. why same treatment can not be given to these goons.

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  • Anonymous

    Ravi
    To say Khilafet movement did not have anything to do with religion, and that it was a political movement that used religion to achieve political objectives is like saying ISI does not have anything to do with terrorists.

    khilafet was a movement started by a few Indian Muslim leaders to protect their religious places (Mecca/Medina, outside India) and to protect a Calipha (in Istambul, Turkey) after the first world war destroyed the Ottoman Muslim empire. Nothing politics here; everything to protect the religion and religious artifacts.

    Majority of the Muslims were not involved in the freedom movement or in Congress; the “bania” in Mahatma Gandhi saw an opportunity to bring them into the freedom movement by endorsing and supporting Khilafet.

    Later Khialafet turned violent, with police killings in central India (Chira Chura?) and in Malabar District, the present Northern kerala. Thousands of Hindu women were raped and murdered, temples ransacked and destroyed, and many converted to Islam (it is not an accident that Malappuram is now 85% Muslim).

    This violence made Mahathma to disassociate with khilafet. This coupled with AttaTuk Mustafa Pasha takeover of Turkey ended the Khilafet movement.

    The Malabar murders and rapes, called “Mopla Lahala” , was later “categorized” as an agrarian movement bty the seculars and leftists.

    “Duravastha” (“Bad Situation”)A poem written by the famous Malayalam poet of the time, Kumaran Aasan , about the rape of a Namboodiri woman will later be banned from the University curriculum because the seculars did not want to bring back memories that may create communal tension.

    Malabar Special Police (MSP) was constituted by the British after the incident to take care of future rebellions.

    The Ali brothers who were the earlier leaders of Khilafet will form Muslim League and start the machinations of an independent PAkistan, “Pakistan movement” in parallel with the collapse of Khilafet – You can say that was a political movement, and not khilafet

    the ghost of Khilafet/mopla lahala will revisit Malabar in 1947 when Jehadi Muslims murdered Rama Simhan, his brother Daya Simhan, Daya’s wife Kamala Antarjanam (Antarjanam for Namboodiri women is like “kaur” for sikh women), and their cook Raju iyer. For Rama Simhan was Uneen Sahib, a rich Muslim, who converted his family and his brother back to Hinduism through Arya Samaj of Calicut. He converted his two children Fate Singh and Shauker Singh to Sikhism.
    Secularists including the Marxist leader EMS Namboodiripad manipulated the case so the killers were given light sentence so as not to arise communal tension!
    (the murder and the case machinations and verdict about Ramasimhan can be googled

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Gopi;
    I fail to understand that why only muslims get light treatment for most henious crimes. RSS is being punished for crimes, which they did not commit and it is mostly the imagination of its enemies. the way these moplas were treated was shameful. they should have been treated worse than a murderer and given right kind of punishment.

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    Aaloke Reply:

    Dear Gopi ji, Islam is nothing but Political Imperialist movement where God is used to instill fear.

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    Aaloke Reply:

    Islamic Religion ( If it can be called one) and Politics is totally mixed up commodity. Talking of them separately is only ignorance.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Aaloke

    Nice to hear from you after long time. Hope you will visit more often on this blog.

    Anonymous Reply:

    For good or bad– you have to accept that Muslims live in India. I think we should all work towards solutions where bridges of understanding are built.
    Even if there is a problem of Islaic terrorism, then we still have to find a solution.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Aaloke;
    Agree with you.

    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    You are entitled to your views.

    In support of my contention that Khilafat was essentially a Political rather than a religious movement, here are some quotes.

    The Ottoman Emperor Abdul Hamid II (1876-1909) had launched a Pan-Islamic programme to use his position as the Sultan-Khalifa of the global Muslim community with a view to saving his disintegrating empire from foreign attacks and to crush the nationalistic democratic movement at home.

    the Khilafat Movement was launched in September 1919 as an orthodox communal movement to protect the Turkish Khalifa and save his empire from dismemberment by Great Britain and other European powers.

    Contemporaneously, Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi led his non-violent nationalist movement satyagraha, as a protest against government repression evidenced, for example, in the Rowlatt Act of 1919, and the Jalian Wallah Bagh Massacres of April 1919. To enlist Muslim support in his movement, Gandhi supported the Khilafat cause and became a member of the Central Khilafat Committee. At the Nagpur Session (1920) of the indian national congress Gandhi linked the issue of Swaraj (Self-Government) with the Khilafat demands and adopted the non-cooperation plan to attain the twin objectives.,

    The highlighted are POLITICAL OBJECTIVES and not religious ones.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Ravi

    Did Abu Jundal teach you to shout out saffron-RSS_BJP all the time or your taught him?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Whatever you say but I agree with Aloke that Islam religion and politics is totally mixed up commodity.

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    Ravi Reply:

    I have said nothing. I just repeated what some learned people who know the subject have said.
    You believe what you want to.

  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    For all those who were dreaming of grand alliance around Narendra Modi

    ‘No Question Of Supporting Narendra Modi’

    http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?281391

    Telugu Desam Party president N. Chandrababu Naidu, a key player in the United Front and NDA, distanced himself from the BJP-led alliance after the Gujarat riots. Despite a severe drubbing in the recent bypolls in Andhra Pradesh, Naidu says TDP will always remain a secular party. Excerpts from an interview to Madhavi Tata:

    Would you support Narendra Modi as prime ministerial candidate of the NDA?

    I am not going to say anything against the National Democratic Alliance now but ours is a secular party and we cannot unite with communal forces. The Congress is drifting and the BJP is not going anywhere. There is no question of supporting Narendra Modi as a PM candidate.

    ==

    Now will there be a character assassination of Naidu too? Until now he was considered one of the potential constituents of that ‘dream’ alliance.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    The NDA has a wide range of talent — Jaitley, Sushma, Modi, jaswant, nitish etc as compared to UPA whose talent contest is centred around Robert G, SOnia G and Baby G.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Now, most of these secular editors have very reluctantly given up on Baby G. They may push an unwilling Priyanka to the fore to counter Narendra Modi.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    I hope Priyanka DENOUCES dynastic succesion. Our respect for her will grow manifold.
    Sometime back Pathak G who seems to know the insides of the COngress had hinted that far reaching changes with Baby G coming to the fore are goiing to happen…
    So I really am not sure…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Perhaps, these “far reaching” changes may make Baby G go far and reach Italy.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well Shan is there in Milan :)
    One evening with Shan’s lectures … on subjects from art to industrial farming to sex will convince Baby G that it is time to hand over the reins to smarter people like cinegulate…
    And then finally Congress will change …

    AshishC Reply:

    BabyG himself, in various YC meetings has denounced the “system” which brings political families to the fore. The humour in this escapes him.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Absolutely. I will be meeting a teacher who taught Baby G and then years later taught me. I would tell him that his more succesfull student should learn humour fromt the failed one… (me) !

    Anonymous Reply:

    CBN is a spent force in AP. As somebody remarked Reddys are on ascendence; supported by Kapus with Kammas on the sidelines…

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Keep a count of those who will support his candidature, it will be easier than keeping track of those who won’t (this list is growing by the day).

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    I find it funny, any utterance from -had been- is caught with both hands by you and then displayed here with gusto. Any reason for your visceral hatred?

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  • Anonymous

    Pankaj

    The animosity of (some) Muslims against Bankim Chandra Chatterjee was due to his portrayal of Muslim Nawabs in his novel “Anada matt” as an accessory to the Britishers during the great Bengal famine. One of the side plots in the novel was the decadent lifestyle of Nawabs not caring for their citizens (Hindus and Muslims) collecting taxes for their British masters.

    INC should not have conceded to the demands of Muslim leaders and substituted Janagana mana as the anthem in the 1920s.

    INC capitulation continues. During the 100th year celebration of the official launch of Vande Matharanm (as the battle song against the Bengal Division in 1905), Srimathi Ambika Soni, the Minister of culture sent a directive to all states that school children all over the country sing Vande Mataram in unison at 11 AM on 7th September 2005. (some) Msulims objected to it, saying Vande Mataram is idolatrous, anti Muslim, anti Secular. Many Muslim parents kept their children at home that day rather than sing Vande Mataram in school. Shrimathi Sonia Gandhi who was supposed to attend a “Vande Mataram celebration” function in Delhi backed out and instead sent an emissary.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    OK Gopi.
    So the decadence of Nawabs and Zamindars, Rajas and what not has been portrayed in countless films, novels, stories, Theaters and everywhere. So why pick on Vande Mataram., which means-maan tujhe salam-, where is the religion here? no body raised objection to this? These, obscurtionists are only mischief mongers, if they are not curbed now, things will go out of hand. one should use every means to finish this cancer/ poison, otherwise future generation will not forgive this generation.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj, I may have left out key points ..

    “vande matharam” was a parrt of Bankim’s Ananth Matt..
    It was sung by a mystic Hindu sanyasi during a discussion with the hero f the book Mahendra..a discussion of mother happens, sanyasi says/sings mother is country, nature, and Durga.

    The Durga felicitation part of vande Matharam was removed from the official national song.. However, as you know, it was not enough at that time, it is not enough at this time.

    Only in India – you live in US.. I have tarvelled in US.. I was amazed at the high esteem they consider their writers, civil war heroes (on both sides), –amazed at how they inculcate patriotism ..they do not spend time on “not offending” blacks or Muslims or Catholics; they focus on well being of all , may be with misguided economic policies

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Gopi;
    North American are simple people. Not much guile here. people are taken on their statement. We know pakis, the huddharram they are. These converts, think that they are there because of their badmashi. World is getting wiser. No more indulgent attitudes towards them, should be the order of the day.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks for this wonderful information of which I was not aware of.

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  • Anonymous

    HI guys !

    just back from a trek in the HImalayas! Yes life was cool there… and what made the trek worthwhle was 3 batchmates two guys and a girl trudged along…!

    Seems that this blog is a 24 hr addiction for many of us !

    Now as I find here– the BJP has a lot of support. My own family have been traditionally COngress supporters. So any suggestions what we should do?
    I abhor the present corrupt, slow, unimaginative state of the COngress. I find it strange that the Congress has not evolved into a well oiled organisation which can toss up leaders who will come, play thier part and then retire as do leaders in mature democracies. I am more than disappointed by the Congress relying on one family for its possible party presidents and Prime Ministers.

    For a Muslim to vote BJP– well– the BJP has to woo us. Maybe not in the communal manner of false job reservations and excluding us, but by a positive agenda.

    So any suggestions– where I should vote?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Parvez
    Lucky u . Went out of Delhi when the going was hot !
    I think you should contribute in rescuing the COngress from its present state of dynasty worshp and corruption. The congress was a national jewel founded by Dadabhai Naoroji– does anybody remeber him today?
    In case you have reservations on the BJP– send them the message that they are many many Muslims like you who want a more inclusive agenda.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Me rescue the Congress??
    Iss bachche ki jaan loge kya?
    With assignments, tutorials, exams, friends,cricket, dating…. somebody needs to be rescued here!
    But yes, the Congress needs an active rescue policy and induction of fresh faces at the top. A total overhaul.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pervez,

    Only vote for whi talks about development, jobs and prosperity. Anyone asking for votes on religios grounds whether from Congress, BJP or any other party, reject them. Once these people will stop getting votes on religious grounds they will be left with no choice but to work towards the development of their constituency.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thank you Mohan Sir
    Nice of you to reply. I still have to aplogise for not replying to your tete-e-tete on an earlier blog, which i could not reply to but read on my mobile.
    yes, your words make sense. For too long our country has been ruined by “leaders” wanting to divide society like pizzas. Hopefully more parties will espouse stronger economic and governance agendas , rather than divisive agendas

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Inshallah.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Parvez

    Glad to note you had a great time.

    I agree with you on the conundrum “whom to vote” for.

    I was a congressi, then leftist, and now partyless, may be a little supportive of BJP. I do not believe minorities, such ads Christians like me or Muslims like you will be in danger if BJP comes to power. I strongly believe continuation of Congress will balkanize and marginalize the minorities. If Hindu nationalism or Hindu hatred is that strong as the seculars articulate, a large part of India would not have been ruled by various Muslim kings for a long time , or by the Christian British all over India

    bjp has to present a cogent economic plan uplifting all. They should convince Muslims how their economic and developmental initiatives will uplift all including disadvantaged Muslims.

    Congress is worn out. BJP has to define itself as a credible alternative, clean up their acts in states like MP, make all their states showcase states like Gujrat and Goa.

    You are, along with Viju, Rizwan, Shoeb, Iswar etc the creators and moulders of the new India. People like me are spent force.

    Make India good and great. People from all over the world came here from time immemorial to seek truth and knowledge.Make it great

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi sir,
    First of all you are not a spent force by any means! I keep following your blog postings and am sure that you have a vinrant mind which is well aware of present realities.
    I am sorely disappointed by the Congress in its present state. This party is now a pyramid of stagnation, waiting orders from Rahul Gandhi, who does not seem to be an answer to india. Furtheron like many of the fellow bloggers, I am suspicious of families claiming ownership over India. A true democracy has to throw up newer alternatinves in Darwinian survival and selection of the fittest style.
    If the BJP is the answer– then let it showcase more Muslim faces to win over trust.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Why Does India Tend to Collapse So Often?
    http://cinemarasik.com/2012/06/23/why-does-india-tend-to-collapse-so-often.aspx

    Excerpts

    Then there was our conversation with a Professor who runs India Studies at another prestigious American University, a man with a distinguished academic record. Another unit in the same University had made awful comments about Indian Religion & Culture. We asked this Professor, this Head of India Center at the same University, why he didn’t write a rebuttal or make s strong protest within that University. In a tired, disgusted voice he told us “I have given up”.

    ==

    Why do Indians give up so easily, so soon without a fight? Why has this tendency worsened after India’s Independence? Below we lay out our views.

    ==

    The reality is India has been a defeated, occupied society for the past 1,000 years. From about 1,000 CE to 1761 CE, invaders from Afghanistan. Tajikistan & Uzbekistan invaded India with regularity. The invaders always managed to surprise the Indian kingdoms who were never prepared for the invasions. The invaders always had better technology, better weapons and they always won over larger Indian armies.

    India was probably the richest country in the world at that time. So first the raids were simply intended to plunder and take the loot back. Then the invaders began staying back and occupying Indian territory. In a series of dynasties, the invaders from the northwest ruled Delhi. In 1300, Allah-ud-Din Khilji, the Turko-Afghan ruler, invaded and plundered south India. The subjugation of India was completed by Akbar, the 3rd Moghul in late 1500s.

    ==

    When you look at the pictures above, you understand why Indians prefer to surrender than to fight and why they simply give up when the going gets tough. It has been bred into them for the past 1,000 years.

    ==

    India always was and remains a violent society. When Indian Kings surrendered to foreign invaders, they didn’t give up their competitive spirit, they simply redirected it inwards towards other Indians Kings. The Mughal rulers of Delhi encouraged this attitude and practice by constantly playing off one Indian King against the other. These warring Kings would take their quarrel to Delhi and Mughal ruler would decide the winner.

    This attitude and tendency was the principal medium for the British conquest. They used the warring Kings to their advantage, selected the winner and then in a few years, took over both the kingdoms. The British were much smaller in number than the Afghan invaders. So they maximized the various internal fissures within India and constantly manufactured fights that they then would adjudicate.

    ==

    Robert Kaplan mentions Alexander’s “disastrous retreat from India in 325 BCE” in his book “Monsoon”. Alexander had such a hard time defeating a mere satellite king of today’s Peshawar that his troops rebelled at the thought of facing the real Indian armies. His successor, the famous Selecus I (mural of whose reign adorns the lobby of Harvard Business School) was routed by Chandra-Gupt Maurya and gave his daughter in marriage to Chandra-Gupt.

    Let us jump to the menace of Huns who ravaged Europe and brought the Roman empire to its knees. Their armies caused havoc and spread terror wherever they went. After destroying Persia, they turned to attack India around 450 CE. That was not today’s India. Crown Prince Skand-Gupt took an army from the capital in northeastern India to today’s Af-Pak area to engage the Huns. The battle was decisive and the Huns were massacred. Indian rule over Af-Pak was reestablished.

    Between 700-900 CE, India became softer and turned its focus inward. The thirst of conquest metamorphosed into the thirst for eternal salvation of the soul. The glory of renunciation became the preferred trait. Invasions and conquests were considered passe and immoral. India slowly turned into a soft, nonbelligerent, rich society that was ripe for plucking. And by 1000 CE, the raids began.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    We have seen that the enemy inside– like Digvinash g, Antulay and Rahul G tried ot make light of the LeT threat.
    That is the real reason…

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    I was not very happy with you but with this post, I feel, you are genuine. would like to interact with you more often. yes, you have described things in right perspective. let us discuss them. Forgive me, my earlier doubts about you.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Very good article.

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  • kosy

    it is vinod sharma who is posting as ravi, i have been watching this man in many news channels, instead of taking a neutral position he goes all out to support congress crook-es, some times he weeps if any one accuses congress minsters

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  • vijay !

    Entertainment !

    I am on the midst of a serious physics book… but keep an eye on this blog… for diverting my mind. Now funnily proof of my thesis that Ravi and Engrich are the same person only got stronger.

    Here is Engrich’s reply to ravI on Zia’s blog. Please note the quality of English. Not the put on English of zionism, brhmns of Engrich– But Ravi’s English.

    Then also note that he calls David Cameroon “our PM” as Ravi does

    So anybody who takes the trouble of replying to Engrich,Tajendar, Ram Autar or Ravi or Mangala– well please note that he is basically a jehadi out to spread an anti India, anti Hindu agenda here. Please also note that like Ravi , Engrich also taook on a Sikh name– Tajendra. All four of them are same. :)
    here is part of the reply written by Ravi under the name of Engrich
    —————————–
    ravi,

    One person who will certainly not be happy with the victory of the Muslim Brotherhood”s Muhammad Mursi in Egypt’s first ever free Presidential election will be our twit of a Prime Minister, David Cameron.

    Back in February 2011, soon after the Egyptian people brought down Egypt’s long-time dictator, Husni Mubarak, Cameron visited Egypt ostensibly to show support for Egypt’s transition to democratic rule. Cameron made a point of meeting a number of Egyptian groups while deliberately refusing to meet anyone from the Muslim Brotherhood – Egypt’s largest popular mass movement. When asked why he did not meet with the MB, Cameron said:

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    You have got them, point blanc. These people think that they are smart. In fact they are smart by half.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Thx Pankaj !!
    just another jehadi case solved by Inspector Vijay !

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Pakistan fought tooth and nails to claim that Riyasat Ali is a Pakistani citizen before his extradition. Now, Rahman malik says that he is proud of ISI. what else you want by the way of evidence??/.
    pakistan, this cancer has to be won over. No other way.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    India should cease all relations with that criminal country and should use
    its clout to force other countries also to isolate Pakistan . It is a long process but it will definitely have a positive effect.

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  • Ravi

    Khilafat

    Gopi you may be interested in reading this.

    …The Khilafat and the Akali Movements, otherwise historically progressive and anti-imperialist, strengthened the hold of orthodoxy and priesthood over the minds of men and encouraged religiosity and the habit of looking at political questions from the religious point of view. At the Aligarh College and university, religiosity was consciously encouraged. The Arya Samaj and its schools and Colleges too had this effect in Panjab. For example, while claiming to revive the Vedic learning, not a single Hindi or Urdu translation of the Vedas was published by the Arya Samajists. But the question of cow protection was taken up on a large scale. Other denominational educational institutions, such as Sikh, Islamia, and Sanatan Dharma schools and Colleges, too encouraged and inculcated religiosity.

    Good news is this is written by an Indian – Bipan Chandra.

    Bad news is that he is from JNU.

    Communalism in Modern India – Bipan Chandra page 198.

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  • Ravi

    Gopi Chand Jasoos and his miserable moronic side kick

    So it seems that our own resident, but totally inept, Sherlok Holmes – AKA Khaploathya – and his chronically dim witted Dr Watson have been embracing
    each other in a self-congratulatory bliss.

    They have read the following….. One person who will certainly not be happy with the victory of the Muslim Brotherhood”s Muhammad Mursi in Egypt’s first ever free Presidential election will be our twit of a Prime Minister, David Cameron.……which was posted by Engrich in Zia’s blog

    From the style of writing they have concluded that it must have been written by me.

    What do you think??? DID I WRITE IT???????

    Give up!!! Use the link below to see the original source of the cut & paste.

    I bet tomorrow morning will bring another surprise.

    http://inayatscorner.wordpress.com/2012/06/24/egyptians-win-our-idiot-pm-david-cameron-loses/

    If only they had checked using GooGle

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Ravi

    The name of the game is character assassination and abuse. Whoever indulges in these is a surefire indication that they have lost the debate.

    The tools used are attributing statements and motives, proceeding to ‘defeat the enemy’ and then ’self proclaiming’ victories. A very ’satisfying task’ carried out day in and day out.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Now he is hiding behind another pathetic lie, – do jism ek jann. Can’t even admit error gracefully, trying to cover one dirty big lie with another big lie.

    Ha ha.

    Here are examples supporting your accusations.

    Vijay;

    You have got them, point blanc. These people think that they are smart. In fact they are smart by half.

    This one is a cracker, can any one ever sink so low…..

    Thx Pankaj !!
    just another jehadi case solved by Inspector Vijay !

    There is delusion and then there is delusion…..but this something else.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    These can be classified as ‘Cheap Thrills’. Let them partake in these ‘pleasures’. Let them revel.

    vijay ! Reply:

    I know … “dimag kharab ho gaya hai…” dialogues etc give u real thrills

    By the way remember I have changed things here. Nobody does sycophancy and naukercy openly on this blog now…

    Even you and Osama Ravi…

    Anonymous Reply:

    In fact, with the departure, hopefully permanently, of engrich on the **** side and of Mahesh on this side of the border, the fake and the troll are doing a Laurel & hardy tango.

    VERY FUNNY INDEED!

  • pankaj@1

    Wow,
    What a great source of information. Inayatscorner. kabab walas corner.and we should accept the wisdom, being propogated by all the arthropodes.

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  • Anonymous

    Alsiter MacAulay’s review of Shantala Basavalingappa’s dance performance at Joyce Theater/Jaacobs Pillow festival, and interview with her and her mother Savitri Nair

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/arts/dance/shantala-shivalingappa-at-joyce-theater.html?smid=pl-share

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Please read Pratap bhanu mehta, in Indian Express, regarding Gandhis and Ambanis. manohar and pathak G. would like to have your comments on this article.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Whether we like it or not and whether they deserve it or not and whether we would have been better of without them or not (we have debated this in detail several times earlier), the Nehru Gandhi family is part of our political landscape. Their legitimacy derives from the fact they keep subjecting themselves to electoral process. Twice earlier, they were rejected in 1977 and 1989 and also the disasters in assembly elections in the last two years or so.

    If the Congress Party feels that the family is the cementing factor, then one must accept the fact and the Congress has to be taken on with the family at the helm. It is foolish to wish that the Congress should jettison the family, it is just not going to happen.

    ==

    Whatever the author has written about Ambanis, a very large chunk is in the past tense. They do not have that clout anymore or nor their companies drive the capital markets, as they used to. Today, there are far more influential people from the industry and business. The Ambanis also have had a problem of acceptability by the rest of the business community. Plus they also have taken a hit – by the tall claims and promises they kept on making about many projects eg – the gas reserves in the Godavari Basin – today they are estimated at only 25% of what Mukesh Ambani had boasted. The war between the brothers is another factor.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    manohar;
    Thanks for your comments. Pratap Bhanu is basically a pro establishment guy, but even if he has to point out this anamoly of our democracy, where, powerful can play with the rules, and people like Gandhis and Ambanis, utilize state power/ money to their personal gains.
    No where I said that Gandhis are not legitimate but is being legitimate, facing election and winning is the only criteria then you have no case against BJP/ Modi, as they are also following the same game plan.It is about desirability of the situation, where powerful, without any moral control, can pplay havoc with this enlightened form of governance- Democracy.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Regarding legitimacy – my point was only to refute the point generally being made the family has usurped its hold over the party.

    If anyone has proof that the family has made personal gains (mind boggling figures are also quoted), then what prevents him / her to approach the proper forums to address the issue? Mere allegations would not do. Dr, Swamy is at it for years, why has he not succeeded?
    He is supposed to have substantial proof in his possession.

    Regarding Ambanis, Dhirubhai made use of the system in place then (the Licence Permit Raj) to further his interests and business at the cost of others. If he were to start afresh today, he would not be able to manipulate the system to his advantage, because there is not much to manipulate. A Raja did and was caught.

    Which form of Government (democracy included) is immune from the rich and powerful not making use of the system in place for their personal benefit? Does it not happen in USA too? I am in no way justifying it, just stating the reality. How to eliminate it completely, I do not have the answers at the moment – perhaps completely doing away the discretionary powers of the administration – not a very practical solution, as there would genuine cases where such discretion would be essential for the general good. Do you have any solutions?

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Really speaking, NO.

  • vijay !

    ——————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ AT OSAMA AND AL ZAWAHARI ~~ ravi and engrich ~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————
    Dear Ravi ji
    My comparision of you and Engirch being one– was basically a philosphical treatise. “Do jism … ek jaan ” concept.
    To the world Osama , Al Zahari represent the same defeated evil philposhphy of converting, killing or destroyng what does not fall into their concept fo religion. Smiliarly you and Engrich– Do jism ek jaan— end up doing the same..
    I wish and pray that you see the light and start loving humanity and not just the blood of innocents…

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Out of power

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/out-of-power/967976/0

    Last year, the country saw a record capacity addition of 19,459 MW in the power sector, thanks largely to a spirited performance by private sector project developers. To put this in perspective, the capacity added during one year, 2011-12, was just a tad short of the 21,080 MW commissioned during the entire five years of the Tenth Plan period.

    ==

    There are two main reasons why commissioning of new projects is not translating into more electricity for consumers. One, a number of power projects are struggling to generate electricity for want of fuel, with both coal and gas in short supply. Combined with this is the fact that for distribution utilities across many states that have not hiked retail power tariffs, there is no incentive to buy additional power and offer it to consumers. At the current tariff levels, they lose money with every unit they supply. So, they prefer to restrict losses by supplying less power to consumers and resorting to rampant load-shedding as demand surges.

    ==

    The renewed private sector interest is petering out, with the all-pervasive fuel shortage threatening to derail upcoming projects, turning away both private sector project developers and investors. Add to this a distribution sector that is haemorrhaging cash, a widening demand-supply gap and a slackening reforms agenda — and the power situation is headed for disaster.

    ==

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    Aaloke Reply:

    Dear Manohar, Coal Linkage problems and Bankruptcy of Power distribution companies is the issue. Bankruptcy is due to, power thefts, Power Transmission losses (due to bad transmission switch-gears ) , political decisions on free electricity to Agriculture sector and forcing them not to increase tariff . We now need Power distribution also to be freed from Govt control.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Aaloke

    Free this, free that. That is what we let ourselves to expect.
    Who do we blame – the politicians or the people? The latest was free power offer to the farmers in UP by the SP and they won handsomely. now they want the money from the centre (that is the money of the country-wide tax payers to fulfill the promise to UP farmers).

    The total losses of the state electric boards is over Rs 2 lac crores.

    Note the massive demonstrations today (led by who else – the BJP) in Delhi against the tariff hike. I am sure if the BJP was in power,they would have done the same and more important the Congress would have held massive demonstrations. That is the problem. It is high time we stopped misusing utilities.

    As I have said below, in Maharashtra, by and large the political parties have stopped playing politics with the utilities – power, water supply, etc. I suppose it may be true in some other states too.

    The editorial is right – this loading shedding is a means to prevent further losses. No power supply, no losses. It is a simple as that.

    Over the years, the share of the power from the coal based plants have gone up. Ideally, the ratio between hydro-electric and coal-powered plants should 60:40, but due to environmental reasons (rightly or wrongly), not many hydro-electric units have come up. One of the advantages of hydro-electric plants is that they can be pressed into service (and shut down – by simply switching on and off water supply though the turbines) easily to meet the peak hour requirements. You cannot do that with the coal-based and nuclear plants.

    Shocking state of affairs indeed.

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  • Anonymous

    Maximum money spent by a man on woman is on her cloths but he
    mostly likes seeing her without cloths.

    Good morning friends.

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  • Anonymous

    I also received the same email day before yesterday but I doubt the authenticity of this story.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    Here are a few comments from others:

    1.Rao Sharan:Plz don’t send a single sms to Satyamev Jayate which will cost Rs.1 to you and will go to Humanity Trust. Just open the site of Humanity Trust you seeit serves only to Muslims and the entire board, consists of Muslims, which serve to poor muslims.. tlast, his Agenda was revealed.. What a Double standard man this Aamir khan is..!! Humanity Trust which wants to build Mosques in Hindu dominated areas. Save Bharat from turning into Islamic.
    chk below links
    http://www.satyamevjayate.in/i...
    http://humanitytrust.com/
    2.U.K.Shukla:Hey the link u have given above is fake and the actual NGO is not the humanity trust …its the humanityhospital.org …. follow the link http://www.humanityhospital.or...
    3.Amir Khan: (this is obviously a fake name):Dear UK Shukla,
    In the website you gave above, it says Humanity Hospital is managed by Humanity Trust, which is an Islamic organization.
    Aamir khan need to talk about issues like Love Jihad, Polygamy as well.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Please visit this website http://www.satyamevjayate.in/.
    They have also got the news of this email and have given their
    Version. Money is not going to ny humanity trust in Chenai but it is going to humanity hospital in West Bengal.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    I agree with you. There is a vicious campaign to make people believe that the Amir Hkan show is having some mean under-belly to it.

    I am glad that Amir Khan has clarified. May God bless him with great success.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, he is doing a brilliant job. Five more episodes lets see what he comes up with.

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan ji

    I have a direct question for you.

    Q: Do you believe that an attempt is being made to characterize “Satyamaev Jayate” as an Islamic programme.

    Simple one word answer would be appreciated.
    Discussion can follow.

    Anonymous Reply:

    No

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan
    Here is my ever so predictable response.
    It would not surprise me if a, centerally co-ordinated, attempt is being made to neutralise Satyamaev Jayte by using the formula.
    This programme is pointing to bad elements of Indian Cultural life, which is the same as Hindu life, so this programme is anti Hindu, therefroe it must be pro-Muslim. After all it is made by a Muslim and its earnings are being diverted to a trust which is managed by Muslims and it is run for the benefit of Muslims. It must be an Islamic programme.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, you are predictable and I am not surprised to read your views. Only you can think that this programme is being
    seen as anti Hindus, I have not heard more sillier thing than this. About that email accusing Aamir Khan, it could be a prank or may be one of his rival who is not happy with his
    popularity. Once again I will say that you are paranoid.

    Ravi Reply:

    And you can not read.
    Where did I say that the programme is anti Hindu.
    You bestest buddy has posted some comments that say that.
    You too are matronomically predictable

    Anonymous Reply:

    I misunderstood that these are your views when I read this
    ‘ this programme is pointing to bad elements of Indian culture life, which is same as Hindu life, so this programme is anti-Hindu, therefore it must be po-Muslim.’

  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Why power tariffs are increased?

    Did you mean

    Why power tariffs are not increased?

    ==

    The Delhi Government has increased the power tariff by whopping 20 to 25% and the people are up in arms, so much so that there are prime time TV debates on it. As with the petroleum prices, ‘logon ko saste mei.m khaane ki aadat paD hayi hai’. Whether the people will ‘punish’ them for doing so, is to be seen.

    Take the case of Bombay. Uninterrupted power supply is taken for granted – no second thoughts or worries and this has been so from the days of British Raj. Why is it so?

    As you must be aware the power is supplied by BEST (a Municipal Corporation Undertaking, hence covert political control) and Reliance Power (earlier BSES).

    They both make profits and hence guarantee (in absolute terms) power supply. No power, no profits for them.

    Let me give you an example, some years ago the cable supplying power to my building was damaged / burnt. This happened around 8-30 PM, the Company was informed immediately. Working through the night, they dug up the concrete road (about 4 feet) to reach the damaged cable, fixed it, repaired the road and the power was restored by 1-30 AM. If they were making losses, they would have taken their own time, perhaps not bothering for several days.

    Another benefit of having correct power tariffs is that people realise the value of the utility and make efforts not to waste to save on electricity bills. In my own case, we have reduced consumption by about 30 to 40 units a month over a period of one year without sacrificing comfort. I am not alone in this. Power saved is available to others, hence a little lesser load to generate extra power. Savings all around and guaranteed supply.

    Whenever power tariffs are increased, the politicians here in Bombay from all parties make feeble noises, thats about it, as they too have realised you cannot let a company/ utility bleed to death in the name of ‘aam admi and expect it to keep supplying power. Recently, the transport wing of the BEST increased the bus fares by 20% to 25% – no protests, as they know otherwise the service will go to the dogs.

    Wherever power supply cables are underground there is hardly any power theft. Why poor people and those living in slums? It was reported some years ago, a very rich man living in a huge mansion in Sainik Farms (Delhi) with 3 to 4 expensive cars with a retinue of servants, etc. etc. was caught stealing power. He is not alone.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I personally have no problem with the increase in tariffs as I
    also believe that consumer shoud pay the right price.
    If the theft of power, whether by rich or poor, is stopped or reduced than perhaps increase in tariff may not be required.
    There is more politics involved than the actual economic reasons in the price fixings of power, petrol, diesel, cooking gas etc. If it can be done in Bombay than I am sure it can be done in other places also.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    I have state dthis before – many prudent states have started adopting a policy of load shedding in areas where there is rampant power theft – the areas concerned have been told by the supply companies – as to why is it so. The areas concerned (municipalities / panchayats) collectively along with police (the electric companies cannot keep a 24 hour vigil) to ensure that power thefts are eliminated. Some have done so and get uninterrupted supply.

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  • Anonymous

    ” ……In 1985, the Supreme Court directed Mohammad Ahmed Khan to pay Shah Bano, a penurious 69-year-old whom he had divorced after 43 years of marriage, Rs 500 a month as maintenance. The Supreme Court verdict, under Section 125 of the Criminal Procedure Code, was widely hailed as a triumph of justice in secular India. Only the outraged Muslim clergy and its obscurantist followers condemned the Supreme Court’s “interference” in Muslim personal law.
    What happened next was deeply regressive. In order to appease Muslim electoral sentiment, the Rajiv Gandhi government used its 404-seat majority in the Lok Sabha to nullify the Supreme Court’s verdict by passing the Muslim Women (Protection of Rights on Divorce) Act, 1986. The legislation set aside the rights of divorced Muslim women to receive maintenance under Section 125 of the CrPC…..”.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    I believe that most of the problems we are facing today are because of this decission. To appease Muslims Shah Bano verdict was reversed, than to appease Hindus, gates of Babri Masjid were opened and Hindus were allowed to perform puja. Advani took advantage of this and came up with Rath Yatra. To counter this Charan Singh came up with Mandal
    where we saw many young boys being killed and saw the rise of Kanshiram and her protege Mayawati. Rath Yatra ended in distruction
    of Babri Masjid and reaction of this was Bombay blasts. Godhra train burning where about 60 kar sevaks died including women
    and the riots followed in Gujarat are
    also the outcome of this Shah Bano decission.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan
    The passage of the Muslim Women (Protection of Rights on Divorce) Act, 1986. was the single most cynical act by Rajiv Gandhi heading a Govt , which had been voted to power with an unprecedented majority . He simply wasted that popular support and the trust which the country had reposed in him. He thought he can trick the country by such gimmiics without caring for its implications for the country.The country saw glimses of the same cynicism in the UP elections and elsewhere when we heard about the PHoOT PHOOT KE RO PADI and the Unconstitutional Reservations for muslims.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think Rajiv Gandhi was not fit to be a PM of India.
    Unfortunately in our country, congress members cannot look beyond Gandhi family. There is another disaster in the
    name of Rahul Gandhi who is waiting to become PM.

  • Anonymous

    Good news.stock market up by about 350 points. Are we into a long term bull run?. Next target BSE 20000 in few months ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The stock market is up by 350 points.
    In Pakistan, (gillatine) stick market is up by Rs.350!

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Ishwar

    Here is an admission by The Hindu.

    What’s in a name? A life

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/editorial/article3581721.ece?homepage=true

    No excuses, no nitpicking. The entire media got the ‘Sarabjit to be
    released’ story wrong — including The Hindu, in its early editions
    before we stopped press at midnight to make the correction. If anything,
    the Sarabjit/Surjeet Singh mix-up has held a mirror to the beast that
    the media has become: easily excitable, know-it-all and supremely
    confident to the extent of being tone deaf even when Pakistan’s
    Presidential spokesman Farhatullah Babar was clearly saying on Indian
    television channels — and by extension to the tuned-in print media —
    that “Surjeet Singh” was entitled to be released. The media stands
    exposed but still does not have the grace to admit it was wrong, let
    alone introspect or apologise for giving false hope to the family of a
    condemned man. Worse, a section of the media has topped it all up with
    theories galore on why Islamabad made the “midnight switch”. Ironically,
    because of the nature of the story and how it unfolded, Sarabjit’s
    family at least got to air its disappointment. But what all those
    mistakes that are being made by the media in the rush to be first with
    the news? The insensitive line of questioning to bring out raw emotion
    on camera, the crowding around rescue operations for a “quote”, or
    ruining investigations by breezing into crime scenes? In this particular
    case, there is the fig leaf of an excuse in the two names sounding
    similar but the media was clearly not listening and kept repeating
    ‘Sarabjit’ so often that on at least one TV show, Mr. Babar himself got
    confused and used that name for the man he had referred to only seconds
    earlier as ‘Surjeet.’

    ==

    Read on.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Good article. Thanks for the link. Reporter has rightly exposed over zealous media.

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    Right. Also note overzealous people too – just believe whatever and go to town, slam, slam, slam – not stopping for a moment to think. We had this here too.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar
    See my comments on Fox/CNN regarding President Obama’s healthcare bill

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    there is a huge difference between the unseemly hurry and disregard for truth of the US media and the genuine ride Indian media was taken for by the Pak government.

    In hte case of sarabjit Singh, he was to be released as per Zardari’s promise, which was vetoed by the ISI and the terrorists.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    ok, makes sense.

  • vijay !

    @ MOhan

    The market rally is linked to Pranab Muyherji being kicked upstairs. PV Rao’s original team is back in action and has promised to reivew the Vodafone tax and other retrospective tax laws.

    This could result in a sustained rally.

    Things would be better in case Digvinash and Rahul G too also decide to retire.

    The falling rupee is a huge cause for concern as our oil prices will remain high fuelling inflation.

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  • Anonymous

    I knew Manmohan Singh is inefficient, ineffective, weak and also psychologically a spent force.

    But, I would never have associated ungratefulness with him.

    But, that is what he has shown himself to be.

    Manmohan Singh skips meet to celebrate 91st birth anniversary of Narasimha Rao.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Saab
    He is a spineless , selfish PM who is only concerned with retaining his chair. He is majboor before Sonia Gandhi and her son and probabaly her son-in law too ..a majboor before DMK and coalition politics ..a majboor before the political clout of Kalmadi..and now he is making out a case that Indian Economy suffered because of Pranab Mukerjea’s policies …and he could do nothing about it … again because he was majboor

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen Saxenaji,

    you have described him better than me. He has bent before so many petty crooks and badmash company that it is a wonder he is able to stand erect at all!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    bvs

    was he supposed to attend

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    you mean we should have been surprised if he had attended the function? All said and done, Rao is a great son of India and is worth an acknowledgement from Manmohan Singh that it was Rao who changed the face of India.

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  • vijay !

    ————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ HUMANITY HOSPITAL and humanity trust are different ~~~~
    ————————————————————————————————

    I have high regards for Aamir Khan. At one point in time… I wished that I would make a film with him. But maybe it could still happen…. :)

    In the fitness of things I would like to put forward what Aamir has said… and what I dug out of the net.

    a) Aamir is batting for an organisation called Humanityhospital.org and NOT HUMANITY TRUST.

    c) This HUmanity trust seems to be a fake organisation wanting to cash on the popularity of Satyamev jayate. and is possibly waitign for cheques which flow in by accident and people’s confusion

    d) Humanity Trust could also have been floated by people jealous of Aamir/people who have been hit by Aamir Khan’s show.,

    e) The address it gives on the web site is close to that of the HUmanity Hospital.

    HERE IS A WRITE UP ON THE HUMANITY HOSPITAL AAMIR SUPPORTS
    ———————————————————–

    IMPORTANT NOTE: The correct website for the recipient of the donations from this episode of Satyamev Jayate is http://humanityhospital.org/. This hospital and trust does not have any religious denomination. Any other organisation or website to which reference is being made on any platform in the context of this episode of Satyamev Jayate IS NOT the recipient of donations from the show and has no connection with the show.

    Humanity Trust started Humanity Hospital in 1996, in a small village named Hanspukur in West Bengal, with the aim of providing medical care to those with no access to it, and especially to those who could not afford it.

    Today, the hospital gives free medical treatment to thousands of patients per year and has slowly been expanding its reach to remote corners of the region where there are still many who lack access to affordable medical treatment.

    How Humanity Hospital came about is itself a heart-wrenching story. It began as a dream, and a steely determination on the part of Subhasini Mistry , a resident of Hanspukur, 24 Parganas (South), West Bengal. She lost her husband due to medical negligence in 1971, and brought up her children by working as a housemaid, a manual labourer and a vegetable seller for 20 years. She saved Rs. 100,000, and, with the help of community workers and neighbours, she was able to see her son Ajoy qualify as a doctor. Visualising a hospital for the underprivileged, she bought a plot of land in the interiors of Thakurpukur, where most people are in the ‘poor’ category, and opened a clinic in a hut there. Eschewing the practice of naming hospitals after individuals and organizations, she decided to name it the Humanity Hospital.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    the story of Subhasini Mistry is heart warming and is an example of the grit and perseverance a dreamer shows to realise her dream.

    As you have said, humanity trust is an evil, which is also trying to exploit the confusion. It is like Fake Ravi making use of the Hindu name.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks Viju..

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  • Anonymous

    Regarding overzealous media (Surjit/Subrajit)

    The Supreme Court of USA ruled on the Affordable Healthcare Act (negatively called as “ObamaCare”) yesterday. It upheld the legislation in a 5-4 ruling, with the usually conservative Chief Justice Roberts siding with the government.

    However, both CNN and Fox reported that “ObamaCare” failed in their “breaking news” announcement. Then they went on analyzing the impact to Obama’s reelection with the failure of his signature bill.

    They did not wait to read the full 64 page verdict. The chief justice had expressed some reservations about the “individual mandate” in the first page, and they ran with that assuming he voted against that.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Benoy

    It seems the electronic media lives from moment to moment on a diet solely consisting of TRP ratings and this is what we will keep getting. It would be a ‘wonderful’ world for the media, if there was a breaking sensational news every 10 seconds – the 10 seconds needed to flash the earth shattering news and then moving on to the next cracking news.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    In Rajkot, Gujarat, posters have appeared likening Modi with onscreen vamps and mothers-in-law (Shashikala and Lalita Paawar).

    I say, what an insult to these two legendary actresses!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar-

    what is the connexion with vamps/actresses?

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    Ask the people who put up the posters? Or ask the people used to watch Hindi Films (family dramas) of 50s/60s/70s. Or better ask Modi himself. ;-)

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I do not understand Mody connection to these actresses, especially with only a peripheral understanding of events there.

    manohar_T Reply:

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/rajkot/Posters-continue-to-pester-BJP-in-Rajkot/articleshow/14494339.cms

    The poster war triggered after Sanjay Joshi’s exit from the BJP continues unabated in Rajkot. Fresh posters drawing parallels between chief minister Narendra Modi and Bollywood’s ’scheming matriarchs and vamps’ have sprung up in parts of the city.

    A morphed image of Modi has been shown alongside famous vamps of Bollywood like Shashikala and Lalita Pawar.

    Anonymous Reply:

    thanks, got it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    I will try to explain in simple terms.
    It is no big deal to be plastered on wall posters as a wamp of Hindi films. Either this or as a rakshas or Hitler.

    In Karnataka and TN, it happens routinely. In fact, TN chiief of DMK is Stalin! There is a Roosevelt too.

    In Gujrat, it only means that anti-Modi pygmies are getting some kick out of the posters.

  • Anonymous

    Marxists (CPM) will most probably implode here in kerala into 2-3 factions.

    All indications are that some of the Marxist leaders directed the murder of a defected local leader, Chandrasekharan.

    Vijayan’s faction is involved in the murder. Achuthanandan and his group may form a new party or take control from Vijayan faction.

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  • Anonymous

    Rahman Malik says about Abu Jindal – “why are you blaming us, he is your citizen, your man. It is your responsibility to control him”…

    Speaks volumes.

    As I write this, a Malayalam TV channel reported that there are five extremist jehadi Muslim cells in kerala under “government surveillance”!
    TADA should be resurrected, any – Muslim, Hindu, Christian, Sikh- terrorist under the radar should just be put in jail.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The Oiswaisi brothers in Hyderabad are into Pakistan money laundering and terrorism…

    One is on trial for murder..
    They are proud to say they are of royal descent!

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    Is he the owais who appears on TV lashing against BJP ?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    This Owaisi is the same person who had sent some men to
    attack Taslima Nasreen.

  • vijay !

    @ Censorji
    Have a sense of humour yaar!
    Aaaoo jhume gayen…
    Milke khushi manayaen
    Arre baba Mohan made an innocouus comment on power theft. So why the report of abuse and censorshiP
    here is the comment again…
    Why power tariffs are not increased? Scared of voters? Coalition compulsion? More than a year back I had read a report of power theft.
    According to that report 30-35 % of power is stolen and no serious steps are taken to stop this menace and it is same old reason of vote bank politics being played here too. Most of this theft happens in slums and villages and these are the people who come out in droves at the time of voting. If middle class wants a serious change than they have to assert themselves and first step is to take part in voting which I believe most of the middle class people don’t do.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan should not have used expressions like stolen, menace, vote bank politics etc., to which the censor must have taken serious objection.

    I might add here that such mild expressions are no longer used anywhere.

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  • Anonymous

    Ahmadiya leader visits US Congress; gets the support of Congressmen

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/ahmadi-muslim-leader-pushes-plight-in-congress/2012/06/28/gJQAuduf9V_story.html

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    There were attacks against Ahmadiyas in Hyderabad. Oswais brothers were behind that

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Air Traffic Talk

    While taxiing at London ’s Gatwick Airport , the crew of a US Air flight departing for Ft. Lauderdale made a wrong turn and came nose to nose with a United 727. An irate female ground controller lashed out at the US Air crew, screaming :

    “US Air 2771, where the hell are you going? I told you to turn right onto Charlie taxiway! You turned right on Delta! Stop right there. I know it’s difficult for you to tell the difference between C and D, but get it right!”

    Continuing her rage to the embarrassed crew, she was now shouting hysterically: “God! Now you’ve screwed everything up! It’ll take forever to sort this out! You stay right there and don’t move till I tell you to! You can expect progressive taxi instructions in about half an hour, and I want you to go exactly where I tell you, when I tell you, and how I tell you! You got that, US Air 2771?”

    “Yes, ma’am,” the humbled crew responded.

    Naturally, the ground control communications frequency fell terribly silent after the verbal bashing of US Air 2771. Nobody wanted to chance engaging the irate ground controller in her current state of mind. Tension in every cockpit out around Gatwick was definitely running high. Just then an unknown pilot broke the silence and keyed his microphone, asking: “Wasn’t I married to you once?”

    [Reply]

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    Your talk of ” Cockpit”, raises few eyebrows. i do have few bawdy jokes here. I will have to recall them. Sorry, do not recall it. but, what is the difference between, Sky and Skirt???.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sky covers humanity
    Skirt covers dignity.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good one.

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    Add it to your collection.

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  • Anonymous

    A student failed law & decided to make a deal with professor

    sir, do u know everything about law?

    Prof:yes

    student; if u can answer this question, i will accept my final marks, if u can’t, u have to give me ‘A”
    professor agreed

    boy asked, ‘what is legal but not logical, logical but not legal & neither legal nor logical?

    prof thought about it for hrs & pondered no answer

    He had to finally give up as he really did not know. He gave the boy his ‘A’

    the following day, professor asked same question to his students

    He was shocked when all of them raised their hands

    He asked one student

    he answered: sir, u’re 65, married to 28 yrs old woman, this is legal but not logical
    your wife is having an affair with a 23 year old boy, this is logical but not legal

    your wife’s boyfriend has failed his exam & yet u have given him an ‘A’
    It’s neither logical nor legal

    The professor collapsed .

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    This legal tangle of the sex-triangle has tingled my funny bone mightily.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Catch and send stray dogs to northeast: Punjab Congress MLA.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Catch-and-send-stray-dogs-to-northeast-Punjab-Congress-MLA/articleshow/14507090.cms

    We can make arrangements to catch such dogs, put them in jungle or zoos. Maybe we can then send them to Nagaland, Mizoram and China where they are more needed,” he said in a veiled reference to the practice in some communities in northeastern states where dogs are killed for their meat.

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  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~ ABU JUNDAL FULLY CONFIRMS 26/11 WAS STATE OPERATION~~~
    ==============================================================

    Let us all accept one fact. Pak-shit-stan is third rate failed state which wants to kill innocents all over the world and then beg for aid.

    Unfortunately a section of India still wants friendship with this **** entity. As we have seen with Ravi out here– the brainwashing goes right down to the primary school days when they are taught b=bandook, j=jihad, k=kafir. q=qatal.

    Abu jundal’s HAS REVEALED THT 26/11 WAS A STATE RUN OPERATION BY THE ROGUE ISI.

    So should we not retaliate in decimating the ISI, rather than pretending that they have changed and have become innocent nursery students.

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  • vijay !

    Another UPA attack on Hindus:

    —————————————–

    Colonal Purohit was innocent !
    —————————————

    From NDTV
    ——————-

    Malegaon blast: Did Army go wrong in Lt Colonel Purohit’s case?New Delhi: The Indian Army appears to be caught in the cross-hairs of a big new controversy – in 2008, it may have acted too quickly in accepting that a serving military intelligence officer, Lt Col Prasad Purohit, was linked to a right-wing terror group.

    In 2008, a bomb exploded on a Friday evening near a mosque in the town of Malegaon, killing six people. One month later, the Anti-Terror Squad (ATS) in Maharashtra said a group of Hindu right-wing radicals was to blame. Lt Col Purohit, who was posted in Pachmarhi in Madhya Pradesh, and was undergoing an Arabic Language course, was accused and arrested.

    The Army, without conducting an immediate court of inquiry, handed him over to the ATS. Later, it did order a court of inquiry but did not allow Lt Col Purohit to cross-examine witnesses.

    Also ReadFerrari Ki Sawaari my turning point: Sharman JoshiDefence Ministry clears over 10,000 crores for air defence missiles for armyAlso See20:41The 9 O’clock News: The biggest stories4:14Malegaon blast: Did Army go wrong in Lt Colonel Purohit’s case?Two years later, under orders from the Armed Forces Tribunal, the Army restarted the court of Inquiry.

    Now, more than 50 army personnel have testified that the Army may have wrongly handed over Lt Col Purohit to the Anti-Terror Squad without conducting its own investigation. Lt Col Purohit, who has been in a jail in Taloja in Mumbai, was allowed to cross-examine witnesses in Mumbai.

    Many said that he was actually an infiltrator and not a conspirator, who had been assigned to collect evidence and details of right-wing terror groups.

    From the very beginning, Lt Col Purohit has claimed that he had kept his bosses informed of his activities which included attending meetings of the Abhinav Bharat.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Will he be released?

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    The UPA will be left without pants if they do this. Poor guy will have to wait till Baby G finally leaves town and digvinash Singh is kicked out.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji may kindly step in to save their skin.

    I am prepared to stitch khaki chaddies for these panting but pantless congress dignitaries.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Or will he be certified insane?

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Friday Night Musical Links

    1) DHARAMPUTRA – 1961 – jo dil diwaanaa machal gayaa – Mohammad Rafi
    Lyricist : Sahur Ludhianvi
    Composer : N Dutta

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoPU_uKVWjA

    2) DIL BHI TERA HUM BHI TERE – 1960 – yeh waadaa karei.n – Mukesh + Lata Mangeshkar
    Lyricist : K L Pardesi
    Composer : Kalyanji Anandji

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AamisNs0eBU

    3) DO USTAD – 1959 – ham pe dil aayaa to bolo kyaa – Mohammad Rafi + Asha Bhosle + Shamshad Begum
    Lyricist : Qamar Jalalabadi
    Composer : O P Nayyar

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOKEvX1C8Sc

    4) GATEWAY OF INDIA – 1957 – do ghaDi jo woh paas aa baithe – Mohammad Rafi + Lata Mangeshkar
    Lyricist : Rajinder Krishan
    Composer : Madan Mohan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYOg5i086F0

    5) SHARARAT – 1959 – dekh aasmaan mei.n – Geeta Dutt + Kishore KUmar
    Lyricist : Hasrat Jaipuri
    Composer: Shankar Jaikishan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuVu1sYExNw

    ==

    Enjoy

    [Reply]

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manoahr;
    More I rea
    d you more I like you. Keep it up.

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  • vijay !

    ———————————————————————————————
    ~~~ CONGRESS’ Prithivi chavan IS THE MUTHALIK OF MUMBAI ~~~~
    ———————————————————————————————

    From Tehelka to Arundhati Roy to innocents on this blog to many TV news anchors, Muthalik– a small time goonda and goon– was . equated to Taliban thus trivializing the evil jehadis.

    In Mumbai the CM;s cop Dhoble is harassing teenagers, middle aged and everyone… to stop them from clubbing and pubbing and dancing. is this not moral police?
    Dhoble HAS HARASSED FOREIGN TOURISTS. HE HAS ACCUSED THEM OF PROSTITUTION EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE JUST SITTING IN A BAR.

    But becasue Dhoble is Prithviraj Chavan’s man– who is her to stop this moral policeman?

    Shame on Chavan…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Muthalik was thrown out of Bhajrang dal because of his militant activities that brought bad name to Hindus as a whole. Then with covert support from some congressmen in Karnataka, he formed Sri Rama Sene, a renegade rump which indulges in hafta collection, supari hit jobs etc.
    Muthalik was described by the secular media as the Hindu Taliban.

    Now Mumbai ACP, Dhoble has attained the kind of notoriety, it has made Prithviraj Chawan very uncomfortable, though not enough to rein the Police Taliban in. But the same secular media is handling him with kid gloves.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    very true

    [Reply]

  • pankaj#1

    I read a news item. Miyanmar says to sun… not to call it Burma.

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  • Anonymous

    Manohar
    “Kalakshetra becoming kurukshetra”

    Government created problems at the famous kalakshetra founded by Rukmini Devi in Adyar, Chennai -
    Ousting the famous dancer Leela Samson, a dear student of Rukmini Devi (and daughter of the respected Admiral Abraham Samson) as the director ..(and later calling her back)

    Manohar – why should government get involved in these famous cultural institutes founded by eminent people like Tagore, Rukmini Devi, Vallathol (in kerala – Kerala Kalamandalam) etc

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/article3384726.ece

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    if I am not mistaken, Leela Samson is a favourite of Sonia Gandhi, who also made her chairperson of film censor board, about which her expertise is zilch!

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    Gopi

    Down the history, the state (Emperors, Kings and Maharajahs) have always patronised the arts and crafts – primarily because they have the funds and perhaps equally many were admirers / lovers of the fine arts and culture.

    After independence, our Governments (Central and states) have continued to patronise and provided the funds and the infrastructure for these institutions to flourish, the same way they funded educational institutes (IITs, IIMS, etc.).

    Similarly, the academies and centres of excellence established by Tagore, Rukmini Devi also need funds – donations from well wishers would not be enough.

    Having said, we have yet to acquire the maturity and trust (say like the United Kingdom) to let these institutes function autonomously (over the last few years, the IITs, and IIMs have been given autonomy gradually – they are much more freer than they were about a decade ago). Earlier, the Directors of IIMs, IITs needed the permission of some nondescript Joint Secretary in Delhi to travel abroad. Such humiliation has been stopped – the Directors only need the OK from their own Governing Bodies of the Institutes, if at all that is needed. The rebellion by various IITs recently re: entrance test structure is another proof of their independence. In earlier times, the Government would have just pushed the reform and those who would have objected would have been shown the door.

    My view is that today, these institutes and academies have much more freedom than before, but not total, it will take more some time to achieve it. I suppose, we have to just grin and bear till then.

    In case of places for arts, crafts, etc. Very few rich people / companies have come forward to set up independent schools / institutions. ITC Ltd is one I recall, which has set up ITC Sangeet Research Academy ( http://www.itcsra.org/disclaimer.html ). I have no idea about the level of autonomy and independence that has been given to the Governing Council and the Director of this academy. Tatas have also set up The National Centre of Performing Arts in Bombay ( http://www.ncpamumbai.com/ ). There are others too.

    There may be schools / academies (without the state patronage) set up by very well to do and famous artistes themselves and they must be sustaining them by ‘high’ fees charged from the students.

    There always be conflicts in academies and institutions (state funded or otherwise) – they are manned and run by people. Who is right and who is wrong would depend upon whose side one is on.

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  • Anonymous

    Correct communication is so important. A woman to her husband during
    their private moments ‘ Keep it up ‘ . Now this man is wondering whether
    it was a compliment or a complaint.

    Good morning friends.

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  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Pakistan used cricket diplomacy to survey terror targets

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Pakistan-used-cricket-diplomacy-to-survey-terror-targets/articleshow/14514152.cms

    Interrogation of 26/11 handler Syed Zabiuddin Ansari alias Abu Jundal has revealed that one Major Abdurrehman and key 26/11 accused Sajid Mir alias Sajid Wajid had visited India as cricket fans and conducted reconnaissance of important sites in Delhi and Mumbai for about a fortnight.

    Sources said both had traveled on Pakistani passports bearing fake names and came to watch a match between India and Pakistan at Mohali in 2005. Headley had arrived in India for 26/11 reconnaissance only in 2006.
    —-

    Is this the reason Pakistan wants to resume playing cricket with India?

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Kalam uncovers uneasy innings with UPA

    http://www.telegraphindia.com/1120630/jsp/frontpage/story_15674782.jsp#.T-55kZFgmeI

    Excerpts

    Had Mamata Banerjee got hold of an advance copy of A.P.J. Abdul Kalam’s Turning Points — A Journey Through Challenges, she would have picked up a few nuggets that offer an insight into the UPA leadership’s reservations about another term for the former President.

    Kalam’s sequel to his bestseller Wings of Fire gives a picture of his uneasy relationship with the UPA government from May 2004 till his term as President expired in July 2007. The book, published by HarperCollins, is yet to be released.

    ==

    He says that after the surprise May 2004 poll results, he had forwarded to various government agencies —“without making any comment” — all the emails and letters he had received that objected to Sonia staking a claim to form the government.

    Kalam, however, insists that had Sonia staked a claim for herself, “I would have had no option but to appoint her.”

    He says he was surprised when Sonia arrived at Rashtrapati Bhavan with Manmohan Singh.

    “She showed me letters of support from various parties. Thereupon, I said that is welcome. The Rashtrapati Bhavan is ready for the swearing-in ceremony at the time of your choice,” he writes.

    “That is when she told me that she would like to nominate Dr Manmohan Singh. This was definitely a surprise to me and the Rashtrapati Bhavan secretariat had to rework the letter (replacing Manmohan’s name with Sonia’s).”

    ==

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  • Anonymous

    Abu Jundal: Prize catch or a victim of a turf war?

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/the-mainstream-maverick/entry/abu-jundal-prize-catch-or-a-victim-of-a-turf-war

    Has spin on Abu Jindal arrest started?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    soon Sonia G, Baby G, Digviansh G and Salman G will march down Rajpath with towel in hand, crying “phoot phoot kar.”
    On this blog Osama Ravi under instuctions from Chacha hafeez in Tora Bora will luanch an all otu attack against the RSS

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    This is the result of the issue of autonomy and protecting the ‘federal’ structure of our country. Didn’t the states stall the setting up of NCTC? In my view, if it had been allowed to be set up by now, Abu Jundal would have been in the custody of NCTC and then perhaps made available for interrogation by various state police forces. Now the Delhi police would like to hog the limelight. If he had landed in Bombay, the Maharashtra Police would have been reluctant to part with the prize catch. One cannot have it both ways.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    The writer here is trying to say that Abu Jindal was not involved
    in 26/11 and this falsehood is being propagated by Delhi police.

    Excerpt from this article.

    Abu Jundal’s arrest is a sham. He has nothing to do with 26/11. He is either an
    informer of the Mumbai Crime Branch or the Maharashtra ATS or any other agency
    connected with the Maharashtra Police. He helped the police in the Aurangabad
    arms haul of 2006. The Delhi Police are settling scores with the Maharashtra
    Police—that’s all”, an IB source revealed on the condition of anonymity.

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    You may be right. I am not following the case closely. We are known for making a mess of things.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    the blog writer is right.
    Engrich urf Ram Autar urf Tajender along with his fake bhai, Ravi had said two years ago that 26/11 was the job of RSS.
    Even Digvinash Singh had also confirmed it.

  • Anonymous

    Ajit Singh says Fasting is good for
    health

    Kin of agitating pilots who are on an indefinite hunger
    strike for the past six days highlight government’s callous attitude; allege the
    airline management and the civil aviation minister do not care about the
    stalemate

    http://www.mid-day.com/news/2012/jun/300612-Mumbai-News-Ajit-Singh-says-Fasting-is-good-for-health.htm

    This is a peak period for airlines here in Gulf because of schools holidays.Some airlines have doubled their prices and Air India because of this strikeis not able to take the advantage. Or are the rumours true that other airlinesare paying bribe to government officials and Air India management to continue with the strike ?

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    National Interest : The Meena Kumari politics
    Shekhar Gupta

    UPA must face it: script has changed, tragedy is no longer queen. India is aspirational, impatient, unforgiving

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/the-meena-kumari-politics/968471/0

    Excerpts

    Last two years’ electoral politics has made one thing clear: You no longer win elections in India by reminding people how awfully rotten their fate is. Particularly when you and your party have been governing them most of the time.

    This young, aware India is aspirational, impatient and unforgiving. This is no longer a country of Meena Kumaris. Those of my vintage will know what I mean. But for the younger readers, Meena Kumari was the tragedy queen of the sixties and the entire theatre broke out in tears the moment she appeared on the screen. Our mothers would then tell us to take two handkerchiefs if we were going to watch a Meena Kumari film. At some point at the turn of the century, I would even say, in the wake of the Kargil turnaround, the new generation of Indians dumped that negative, defeatist, self-pitying, kasam tumhari main ro padungi attitude. This new mood was then fuelled by a decade of rising growth, increased global respect for the Indian passport, a renaissance of sorts that touched everything, from art, literature, cinema to sports, and, most importantly, ushered in the EMI culture among the middle classes.

    ==

    Every reformist move was blocked by opposition from within the party. Its top leaders stopped having any contact with modernising, entrepreneurial, job-creating India. They thought they did not need to. Because, in their new, post-2009 wisdom, India’s real job-creators were the district collectors distributing the miserable NREGA largesse. Because that is what the vast majority of Indians so desperately needed. And, if I may turn the knife, deserved.

    ==

    An important and powerful Congress MP — a formidable three-term Lok Sabha winner, not one of those smug, never-retiring Rajya Sabha squatters — made a confession in an in-flight conversation last week. He said the party made a suicidal blunder by brainwashing itself that the 2009 victory had come because of NREGA when it had, in fact, come from growth. Never mind that the data never justified this. In states where nearly 65 per cent of India’s BPL families live, including Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand and Orissa, the Congress party’s strike rate was just about 20 per cent. The party, or its UPA allies, on the other hand, swept every major city (except Bangalore, which was split) and had a nearly 60 per cent strike rate in the richer states. It did enormously better, for example, even in Modi’s Gujarat than in Bihar, Orissa or, for that matter, Uttar Pradesh, which was seen as a success story.

    ==

    The good thing, therefore, is that at least the real politicians in the Congress are now frightened into seeing the light. That is why people who did the most to destroy UPA 2’s momentum, from infrastructure to mining to power to irrigation to manufacturing to scientific agriculture, are now writing pleas for FDI and hard reform. It is a good sign. It may just give UPA 2 the space to carry out a proper spring-cleaning of the cabinet and restore some sanity and poise in its last two years in power.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar
    I like what you write, you seem to be a balanced guy – for a congressi that is.
    I would like interact with you more.

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    Charlie Reply:

    Where ? in bed ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This terrorist and the congressi troll are a cosy twosome.

    Ravi Reply:

    You must be talking about the resident Raja and Rani of this blog. They have been a conjugal couple for absolutely years.

    I had heard that they had a GAYBY, and I always wondered what happened to him.

    Now we know!!

    We have a new avatar on the blog and he has already proven that he is a right charlie.

    Welcome to the pit.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This is not what he has written. It is a plain cut-and-paste job.

    But, we understand that in the absence of engrich, this congressi troll is the only one whose “writings” (!) you like.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Keep off Gujarat, Kalam was advised

    Vidya Subrahmaniam

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article3585910.ece

    Atal Bihari Vajpayee was discomfited by A.P.J. Abdul Kalam’s decision to make an official visit to Gujarat in the aftermath of the February 2002 anti-Muslim pogrom.

    He asked the President: “Do you consider going to Gujarat at this time essential?”

    Disclosing this in his book, Mr. Kalam says he faced many questions on his proposed visit, and there were suggestions at “the ministry and bureaucratic level” that “I should not venture into Gujarat at that point of time.”

    After describing his visit, the former President writes: “The increasing intolerance for the views of others and increasing contempt for the way of life or religion of others, or the expression of these differences through lawless violence against people cannot be justified in any context”.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Those who have the stomach to read further about Dr. Kalam and Gujarat 2002, here is the link – excerpts from his book..

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/article3585638.ece?homepage=true

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    What does this book say about Sonia Gandhi.

    Does it confirm the old BJP chestnut that Sonia Gandhi can become an MP of the Parliament of India, but constitutionaly she is barred from holding the post of the PM.

    This was pointed out to her, by Dr Kalam, is that correct.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Ravi

    The book is not yet released to the public.

    That was a canard spread by the hate-mongers elsewhere and even here that Dr. Kalam had refused to swear her in as the PM, because she was a ‘foreigner’.

    Dr. Kalam, a great and distinguished person that he is, has put the record straight perhaps in order to shut up the propagandists and doubting Thomases.

    Ravi Reply:

    Its probably because KhapLoathYa was trying to over dramatise it, since he fancies himself as a script writer.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This is what he says about that .

    While this communication was in progress, I had a number of emails and letters
    coming from individuals, organisations and parties that I should not allow Mrs
    Sonia Gandhi to become the Prime Minister of our country. I had passed on these
    mails and letters to various agencies in the government for their information
    without making any remarks. During this time there were many political leaders
    who came to meet me to request me not to succumb to any pressure and appoint Mrs
    Gandhi as the Prime Minister, a request that would not have been
    constitutionally tenable. If she had made any claim for herself I would have had
    no option but to appoint her.

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan
    That points to the fact that SHE DID NOT MAKE any claim for herself.

    Not that she asked to be made PM and the President had to refuse it.

    There are those here, who over the last few years, have created an entirely the opposite impression.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pakistanis can never understand how Indian democracy works. You would do well to confine yourself to plotting terror acts, now that your Abu Jundal Bhai’s terror acts have come to an end.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Agree. Of course, Dr. Kalam is right.

    If you go back several blogs, it was stated by the usual suspect here that he had refused to swear her in, because of objections from various quarters and hence Dr. Manmohan Singh was chosen instead.

    This is the common lie and falsehood thrown around all over the Internet by the hate-mongers.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I believe that the reason behind this was articles by
    Subrmaniam Swamy who had said that as per law she is
    not allowed to become PM of India. Mr. Kalam also says
    the that many people had advised about the same thing that he should not allow her to take the seat of PM.
    Good that he has set the records straight.

    manohar_T Reply:

    No President would go by what Dr. Swamy and someone opines in public. The President has access to his legal team – in addition to the Attorney General, the Solicitor General and other law officers of the Government.

    That is why the letter appointing Mrs. Gandhi as the PM was ready when she went to meet him and had to be changed after the meeting.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It will be interesting to see how Mr. Swamy reacts to this disclosure by Mr. Kalam.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kalam only spoke half truth in his book.

    He has not, as far as it is in the public domain, said anything about what the various government agencies said or opined about Sonia Gandhi being ineligible to become PM because of her being of Italian birth.

    What did thge intelligence bureau say about it?

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is fiction only for trolls like you.

    Mark Tully has explicitly written about it and Dr.Subramanya Swamy was the person, who wrote to Kalam on the day she was supposed to be ascending the throne, that if she is sworn in he would file a writ in the supreme court instantly.

    This is what deterred Kalam, not Sonia Gandhi’s supposed awakening of a dead conscience!

    manohar_T Reply:

    Thanks for telling us that Dr. Kalam is telling ‘lies’ in his book.

    Ravi Reply:

    I thought lies were the preserve of RSS repersentatives here.

    They lie about everything.

    Anonymous Reply:

    There are no charges on thinking, it is free. You can think anything you want.

    Ravi Reply:

    Does that not apply to you aswell. Or are you so POSH that you buy your thinking only from expensive stores.

    manohar_T Reply:

    He has no respect for anybody and has no scruples. In this case, he is questioning the credibility and the honesty of a distinguished man (who is respected all over the world), in a pathetic attempt to show himself to be speaking the truth and Dr. Kalam not.

    He cannot stoop any lower, he is already at the bottom. He has just reconfirmed his own non-existent credibility. His types never ever apologise when they set about to demolish the reputation of a person, even of the stature of Dr. Kalam. Character assassination is the name of the game and is practiced by him day in and day out here. We should look forward to see henceforth what label he will use for Dr. Kalam. He keeps labeling you a fake, me a congressi troll.

    Until few days back, Dr, Kalam was his favoured candidate to be the President again and today he attempts to discredit him, just because …. Pathetic indeed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Never lower than you, because you are the pits.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kalam, as far as I know, took oath only to the extent that he would uphold the constitution and discharge his duties etc., etc., etc…..

    He never took a oath saying that he woulkd never utter a lie.

    What he has written in his book is only a half truth.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    What Mr. Kalam says has already been said by many others
    about Gujarat. No body is denying that unfortunate riots happened
    in Gujarat. Yes, many people lost their livelihood and many innocent
    people were killed. This should not have happened and in future
    such riots should never occur in our country. It was a blot on India and Gujarat but some people would like to put whole blame on
    Modi for this unfortunate incident. However, I did not read anything in this article that he has blamed Modi for all this as
    we have been hearing almost daily since last 10 years.
    He says that ‘ should not development be our only agenda ?’
    I believe Modi is following this splendidly.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan
    agree

    Anonymous Reply:

    The congressi troll says “Modi is not the issue here” but, MODI IS THE ISSUE HERE THERE AND EVERYWHERE!

    manohar_T Reply:

    Modi is not the issue here. The larger issue is the BJP. Even Vajpayee tried to dissuade Dr. Kalam from visiting Gujarat. One can only guess why?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, we can only guess why Mr. Vajpayee said this.
    I would not like to speculate anything. Maybe he will also
    come up with a book and explain this and many other
    things which happened in his life.

    manohar_T Reply:

    I doubt he will ever do it. The RSS/BJP were out to cover up the whole thing.

    Anonymous Reply:

    In that book he would most certainly explain in detail Mulayam Singh’s treachery and double cross.

    Ravi Reply:

    Gujarat had been identified as the curcible within which the Hindutva EXPERIMENT was to be tried and tested.
    That work is still in progress.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Same reply. Thinking is free.

    Ravi Reply:

    It sure is, for you too

    Anonymous Reply:

    The only difference is that I don’t start believing in the irrational thoughts which come to my mind.

    Ravi Reply:

    Neither do I. They seem irrational to you is because you have bought into RSS’s popaganda

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kalam is a scientist. ANd scientists are good at distilling and getting concentrated results.

    Kalam’s views bandied here by the congressi troll is distilled opinions of what others have said over the last 10 years.

    Mohan, you are right once again on this.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    propaganda brigade is in full form. This ageless wonder will continue to live as long as they can milch it for their narrow ends.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kalam made these observations on seeing the Godhra train burning in which 59 Hindu kar sevaks were burnt alive By Dawood funded Islamic fundamentalists.

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  • Ravi

    Muthalik was thrown out of an RSS affiliated organisation because he had shown that he could use violent means to enforce his Hindu Militancy. This was so that he could carry out his violent activities without any COME BACK to the RSS. Any evidence discovered of his violent activities could not be associated with the RSS, because they would say, he has nothing to do with us.

    This tactic was templated when Nathu Ramd Godse wanted to adopt extreme violent means.

    Muthalik is not the ugly face of HUNDU RIGHT, it is its normal face.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    100% agree. Reminds of the short story – No comebacks by Frederick Forsyth

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan et al

    Pakistan’s Rehman Malik made a statement that “Abu Jindal is your (India) citizen, and you have to control your citizens and not us” ..

    How true..

    Chidambaram announced there are five jehadi Muslim cells that Govt is monitoring in kerala..

    TADA should be resurrected and these terrorists under watch should be put in jail.

    The rehabilitation of Abu Jindal has already started, although Duryodhan Singh has not yet made any statement. Media has started drawing the picture of how an innocent boy from Beed became a monster — how Marathwada environment contributed..

    Terrorists have to be executed, no ifs and buts. No pussyfooting

    And it is a joke to go on saying we have more proof of ****/ISI involvement..of course, the whole world knows that.. So Abu jindal gives more proof..So what are we going to do with that..Another petition to the Shikhandi UNO?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    All the Owaisi brothers – Akberudin, Asadudin, and BarhanUdin – are terrorists hiding behind their MP/MLA covers. They have open connection with Pakistan.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Terrorist RIOT PRONE RSS is the SOLE owner of the BJP

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What is their position now vis-a-vis Congress? Is Kiran Kumar Reddy govt dependent on the MIM support?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi-

    Kiran Govt is very much dependent on the 7 MLAs from MIM.. Owaisi is well aware of this; he extracts more than his pound in exchange.

    He visited Jagan Reddy in the jail last week. The rumour is that he wants to strike a deal with Jagan now – he counts Jagan party to win big in the next election. (rumour mean he can extract more from Congress!)

    However, he said his visit was to convince Jagan to let his party MLAs and MP to vote for Pranab’s presidential candidacy. And here is the joke – he requested Jagan not to vote for NDA’s candidate because NDA is communal!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahadevan,

    The problem with this joke that NDA is communal and Congress is secular is that many people believe in this joke,

    Ravi Reply:

    This is a zero sum game…there are just as many people who believe that the RSS is a social work organisation and that the BJP is indipendant.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan-
    no, the joke is that Owaisi, the president of Majlis Ittehudl Musselman party, telling Jagan that NDA is communal. (but not the Majlis Itehudal Musselman, a party of Razarkar descendents, a party at one time wanted Hyderabad to be annexed to Pakitan)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, Owaisi was also behind the attacks on Ahmediyas last year

    Anonymous Reply:

    They are following what is happening in Pakistan.
    Attacking, persecuting people only because they believe
    differently.

    Anonymous Reply:

    funny thing is for secular politiians voting for sangma who is supported by bjp would be a communal act but voting for pranab who is supported by mim, muslim league, sivasena is secular act, how come

    Anonymous Reply:

    First, jail bharo
    and then, kaan bharo

  • Anonymous

    Manohar
    A couple of days ago you had a link to something relating to “why Indians fold fast” ..
    I have been thinking about it. One conclusion I derived is that the Indian politicians’ penchant for Muslim appeasement (I do not want to use the term “minority” appeasement, under the disguise of the secular “minority” it really is Muslim appeasement – ) is really a manifestation of the same undercurrents

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  • Anonymous

    The most ‘communal’ person Modi had offered Taslima
    to stay in Gujarat.

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    Ravi Reply:

    If he did that, because she is Muslim, then that is a communal act. Alternatively, if he did that because she was a persecuted individual, then that is a secular act.
    Why do you think he did???

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    Anonymous Reply:

    On humanity ground as no other state had courage to do that.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Then that would be a secular act.
    Why do you find that to be strange?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I did not find that strange, perhaps you are finding it strange that how Modi offered her to stay in Gujarat where she will not face any problem from the so called custodians of her
    religion.

    Ravi Reply:

    You have answered the question yourself, even if unknowingly.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    this is very funny yaar.

    My comment on Taslima has been deleted and you are going scot free.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Even my comment on Owaisis about Ahemdiyas is removed. Censorship is in full swing.

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