Merciless Mamata



Mamata Banerjee is her own worst enemy. After single handedly dislodging the Left from power and becoming Chief Minister of West Bengal, she’s at war with herself. Her impetuosity is a proof that good agitators do not necessarily make good administrators.

Before Mamata, the Asom Gana Parishad had belied hopes of good governance after leading a protracted agitation in Assam. Until Parkash Singh Badal’s peers such as Longowal, Tohra and Talwandi were around the Akalis would spend time fighting among themselves rather than serving the people.

Badal had relatively smooth five year as Punjab CM and earned another five in the recent polls, largely because he now is the sole surviving Akali old-guard.
His son and successor Sukhbir’s bete noire and cousin Manpreet’s challenge might have fallen by the wayside like that of the Congress. That isn’t by any means the end of the Akalis’ Gen-X feud. Manpreet shall be to Sukhbir what Longowal, Tohra and Talwadi were to Badal senior.

Mamata’s story is a tad different in comparison. Her worst adversary is her temperament. Be it individual freedoms or foreign policy, she’s prone to throwing tantrums. Restraint isn’t her forte. Tact doesn’t easily come to her. When in the NDA, she was in a no-holds-barred slugfest with then Rail Minister Nitish Kumar
Mamata’s over the top response to a cartoon that caricatured her and party colleague Mukul Roy is seen as another proof of the intolerance that guided Roy’s appointment at Rail Minister after Dinesh Trivedi’s unceremonious ouster.

So much so that Mamata didn’t think twice before pulling out of the PM’s delegation to Bangladesh over the Teesta River water issue. She justified doing that in Bengal’s interests. But is she stifling individual freedoms for public good? So much for her support of democracy and federalism!

Mamata’s treatment of Trivedi had dented badly her image among the Kolkata Bhadralok who rooted for her in the fight against the Left. Prof. Ambikesh Mahapatra’s arrest in retaliation of the spoof that angered the CM has compounded public disillusionment, raising fresh questions about her ability to govern without fuss.

Mamata’s a popular leader. But by no means more popular than her erstwhile mentor Indira Gandhi. About time she brought some balance to her thinking. She sure must be aware of the price the mighty Indira paid for curtailing speech and civil liberties during Emergency.

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  • Anonymous

    Mamta didi is her own worst enemy.
    And congress party is her worst friend.

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  • Anonymous

    Single women can be temprremental. Single women in politics, certainly are..

    But while Mayawati governed. Mamta only spurns… friends, foes and logic.

    The problem is that her final loss could see another 34 years of rule of the CPM in Bengal and that would put West bengal even behind the remaning 30 countries of the UN it is currently ahead off.

    We have had a few Bongs — one on this blog and a million outside, who keep boasting about Bong brains and ability. Arre bhaiya bahut ho gaya culture and Rosgulla. That is important I guess, but food in the stomach and money in the pocket to get it is more so.

    What Bengal needs today is the culture of entrepreneurship. It needs Entreprisers.

    Now where the hell is Ashish right now?

    I have been stressing time and again, that we as a country are a nation of protesters and not doers. West Bangal leads the pack here. Tomorrow if we go socialist or Maoist… bengal will surely be the reason and Mamta’s failure the biggest.

    Today the brainy Bongs have to use this interim period of 3-4 years before TMC fails totally to get in a culture of free enterprise, factory production, start up units, cyber egheads…

    That is learn from Gujarat and maybe its Marwaris in Calcutta…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I had high hopes for her initially – a “self made woman’ without any connection, a person who is charismatic, a person genuinely interested in people’s welfare…

    She should just be the public face, she should entrust administration, policy formulation etc to a few close excellent bureaucrats/ministers (bring the ex railway guy back)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    I too had some hopes. But after seeing how she worked in the railways and what she did in Singur, I knew from day 1 this is a disaster staring at us.

    Bongs are master protesters and the most articulate ones too. They need to be master doers too. This is basically a 3-4 yr period in which enterprises should set base and also train youth to look up at Ambani and Tata… and not at Mao and basu.

    There is huge difference between the left front of kerla and Bengal. The Malyali worked overseas and evenif the hammer and sickle was hung outside his door, money was coming via the money order from overseas.

    In contrast, the Bong worker never took work seriosly as he was always told that work is a means of exploitation by the capitalist….

    I think they need to learn fromTATA and Ambani for a change…

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  • Anonymous

    Where is Dr Shantanu?

    Waiting for his medical solution to Mamta’s problems.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I hope Santanu has finally got married and had a gauna. I think he will have a solution along those lines.

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  • Anonymous

    I just saw the BVS comment about “daughter-in-law”… However, it has diappeared.. Either Mamta’s or somebody else’s censors are at work!

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————

    SWITCH ON UR TV — TIMES NOW RIGHT NOW !!
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    The son of the original smiling cobra– Ejaz ul haq s/o Zia ul Haq… is claiming that Osama was never in Paksitan.

    It is all a conspiracy theory to defame Paksitan !!

    HA AHHAHA !!!

    These are the slimy jokers, UPA trolls find dependable and want us to compromise India’s security with !!

    Really funny!

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  • Anonymous

    Vinodji

    There is no hope for the likes of her. One word description that says it all – megalomaniac. Her immediate supporters are equally megalomaniacs.

    There have been enough megalomaniac in history and all of them had to bite the dust.

    On the federalism front for which she has made so much noise, there is a test for her coming up.

    The RPF Bill 2012 which the Railway Minister supposed to table in this session of parliament. We will see how much support she gets from the federalist chief ministers, as it will encroach on powers of the state police forces.

    ————-
    Here are the salient features.

    If the legislation is passed in Parliament, it will be for the first time that a paramilitary force will be given policing powers in the country.

    The bill also aims at eliminating multiplicity of authorities as the RPF will be solely responsible for tackling crime in railway premises.

    Currently, the GRP under the state government is responsible for dealing with crime at rail stations and trains while the RPF’s role is restricted to protecting railway properties.

    Since the GRP is controlled by the state government, there are boundary issues. “If a theft takes place in a Delhi- bound train in Bihar, then FIR will not be registered in Delhi,” the official said.

    “It will be registered where the crime has taken place. It not only creates inconvenience to passengers but also affects the investigation process.”

    Once the law is enacted, the GRP will be withdrawn from Railway premises across the country. RPF will be responsible for registering FIRs and there will be no boundary issue involved.

    ————

    Sounds similar to NCTC and BSF Acts.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, Manohar isn’t democracy wonderful!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree. Do you have any other alternative, which is even more wonderful?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    test

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  • Anonymous

    Pakistani-British MP offers reward for Obama’s capture

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/Pakistani-British-MP-offers-reward-for-Obamas-capture/articleshow/12691960.cms

    A Pakistani-origin member of the House of Lords was suspended from the Labour party after it was reported he had offered a reward of 10 million pounds for the capture of US President Barack Obama.

    Nazir Ahmed — the Lord Ahmed of Rotherham — reportedly made the offer after the US announced a $10 million bounty for Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Muhammed Saeed, who was blamed for orchestrating the 2008 Mumbai terror attack.

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    Ravi would you like to throw more light?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am sure RSS and BJP and Modi must be behind this :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    By the way, Nazir went in with a visa to UK… unless of course you fantasize that he fell down from the apple tree….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I will reiterate, I will never trust Pakistan state.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    MOhan

    Pakistan is just cooking up this feeling of friendship to delude the UPA while it launches an all out war in Afghanistan. For some time it will keep the eastern bornder cool. Trolls on this side will jump with joy “ki ab toh dosti ho gayi…”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    No one is asking us to trust them and we do not have to lower our guard and we are not.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    No trust no relation.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Just recall – for example, USA and Japan as enemies during World War II and then thereafter. The world and relations do not remain static. You wish to remain frozen in time -suit yourself.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Comparing US and Japan with India and Pakistan is not even comparing
    apples with oranges which are both fruits. I don’t even have an example with
    whom I could compare.

    Anonymous Reply:

    IndiaPakistan can be compared to horse-gramand bull shit.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    No this is not the right approach. You need not to have intimate relation but Dushmani bhi ek relation hai. Ignoring some body is bigger folly. Would like in details about this on weakend probably but create relationship and keep a wary eye.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    They always carry dagger with them and whenever they get a chance they
    will stab you in the back. Keeping relations with them will give them more chances of stabbing.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Shaista Khan aur Shivaji ki kahani Yaad karain. Sorry for one liner,.I can not take risk like Shivaji, Job ka mamla hai.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That is what I have been trying to tell him, but ‘woh meri baat maantaa hi nahin’.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    I discern a strong desire for harmony in our relations with Pakistan. Nothing wrong with it, particularly as you are far away from the motherland.

    You may even wholeheartedly approve the meaning of this song as applied to Indo-Pak relations:

    रंजिश ही सही दिल ही दुखाने के लिए आ
    आ फिर से मुझे छोड़ के जाने के लिए आ ।

    पहले से मरासिम न सही फिर भी कभी तो
    रस्म-ओ-रह-ए-दुनिया ही निभाने के लिए आ

    But, we must also confront the ground realities.

    I would request you to visit the old blog, where I have quoted the New Indian Express editorial on this “great rush” of friendship our UPA government is experiencing presently.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This is how appeasement of “minorities” ends up. The British people are far too politically correct and have brought this upon themselves. Even after making such remarks, this gentleman has only been suspended and not dismissed from the Labour party.

    The policy of Labour party on appeasing the Muslims surpasses a number of parties in our country.

    Ravi – please let us know more on this – you would have a better idea on why such a statement was made by Nazir Ahmed while away from the country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    I think you are right. In the appeasement department, the Labour Party is the same as our congress party. The suspension is only temporary..

    What is alarming is the rise of Muslim fundamentalism in the Muslim community of UK and other Europian countries.

    I think they can no m ore skirt the issue.

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  • Anonymous

    Terror group Lashkar asks Kashmiri panchayat leaders to quit

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Terror-group-Lashkar-asks-Kashmiri-panchayat-leaders-to-quit/articleshow/12690849.cms

    Villagers of Pulwama district in south Kashmir on Monday found warning posters issued by Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), asking panchs and sarpanchs (village leaders) elected last year in panchayat elections to resign from their posts within a week.

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    Read on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    If Rahul Gandhi asks LET to desist from doing this, they may agree and
    withdraw their warning.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    So please request him to do so and see if it works.
    You know the usual couriers to carry your messages/requests.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I would happily do that but the problem is he does not listens to Sanghis.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Must he know that you are sanghi?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes,
    LeT cannot ignore the request from a well wisher.
    Rahul can send the request through his Sancho Panza, Digvinash Singh, with the suggestion that he is the most hated person by the RSS.
    Maximum chances for LeT to cease and desist.

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  • Anonymous

    Maharashtra civic polls: Cong sweeps Latur; No. 1 in 3 other bodies

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/maha-civic-polls-cong-sweeps-latur;-no.-1-in-3-other-bodies/937480/0

    Excerpts

    Congress and NCP, ruling alliance partners in the state government, contested the polls separately.

    Voting was held in Latur, Chandrapur and Parbhani which were upgraded into corporations and also in Malegaon and Bhiwandi-Nizampur corporations.
    —————
    Polling was held for 371 seats in the 5 corporations. Following is the final tally: Congress-149, NCP-64, Shiv Sena -46, BJP-28, MNS-3, BSP-1, other state parties-21, registered parties-31 and independents-28.

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    Where is Anna Hazare?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    be happy with peanuts (woh bhi jala hua) …. while we enjoy the cream

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    The worst scenario staring at India now is UPA lowering our guard against terror from Paksitan. Yesterday I tested out three bloggers– Ravi, mahesh and Manohar. All of them could only see my apprehensions as a BJP, RSS opposition to friendship with our neighbour who is being given a bad name, unnecessarily, by the US.

    Manoharji even made fun of my fear that terrorists can come thru becasue of easy visa norms. He is not ready to believe that Mohammad Atta and co, Dawood Gilani and co, Masood Azhar and co, Abdul Rahim Tunda and co, came in first thru regular visas.

    Such is the capacity of delusion. Anyway I am just getting inputs… for a project…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Peanuts will last longer, while the cream turns sour within a short time. Enjoy your “khaTTi malaai”.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    MCD election results of Delhi should be with us by tomorrow afternoon.

    BJP may not do as well as last time. You would also get your share of Malaai – have them before they turn sour!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    It was your choice of having cream. I will stick to peanuts, whatever the results.

  • Anonymous

    Vijay-

    Not all single lady politicos are crazy.

    Our Lady (sounds like a Jesuit School!) is all brains; pragmatic, focused, and transforming the place. We really feel it here. vi va vibrant!

    Gone are the thugs’ rule of Karunanidhi and family – an ex minister is arrested in connection with the cover up of a murder, and nine ex ministers//MLAs are arrested for the land grabs during DMK admn.

    She put out a vision doc; the consensus of the business community is that 65-75% will get executed in the ten year horizon.

    The 2014 Lok Sabha elections will be an interim assessment of her performance. Her party won a by-election recently with huge majority trouncing Karunanidhi’s people, who lost the security deposit!

    Karunanidhi is trying his old snake habits, throwing the Sri Lanka, Dalit, or Muslim issues at the voters to see which one sticks; so far no takers.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Frankly I am getting more and more impressed by Jaya. I had one impression of her that she was corrupt, becasue of the cases against her. But she seems to have come a long way.

    In contrast Karuna famil looks a bad copy of the family saga at the centre.

    If Jaya makes it to the centre… I have a feeling she will be a good PM. But SHoeb, you run a business and you know running an enterprise means delegating power to the right people.

    Will she be willing to let others share the spotlight?

    Maywati was never able to digest that. In fact she would make sure no petite or smart lady sat tnext to her.

    I sum total, jaya could well be a good PM.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay-

    She is an entirely different person this time, giving lots of responsibilities to her ministers and select bureaucrats. I believe she is going for “legacy” this time, at least as the modern equivalent of the old Chola Kings who brought glory to the old Tamil Nadu region, if not at an all -India level.

    With stable politics, with Karuna vanquished, she can put the focus on rapid development – and she is well-focused.

    She speaks Hindi and English well, so also all the South Indian languages and Marathi; and with her “white” colour she can woo the rural folks in other states if she does national campaigning for the coalition she will affiliate with – at this time it looks like NDA, she and Modi are good buddies.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, Shoeb, Ishwar, Mohan,

    Jayalalithaa has acted in a couple of Hindi movies, besides more than 200 Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam and Kannada pictures.

    SHe was able to set millions of hearts aflutter every three hours (in theatres) and even now, she is all grace and intelligence. She has, besides the other pluses, courage bordering on irrationality, and foresight.

    If the NDA plays its cards well, she can rally the non-congress forces around herself and drive away the family-run business to the distant shores of Italy and Beyond.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes… I think she would be good. I hope she takes some assistance to handle the media in case it gets combative, without goign down the Mamta road.

    She knows the ground situation well and would be much much much better then the Congress chotta baba who owuld probably find it difficult to locate TN o a geography map.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    yesterday night was one of the funniest nights in my life. The son of the smilling cobra was smiling on Times now and claiming

    “That Osama probably never existed …. and was never in Pakistan… all these are media stories to spoil the fair name of pure Paksitan !! ”

    Funny.. some Indians , even out here, would probably beleive him. !

    But even though I have a tough long day ahead… starting from goign down into a basement and checking out the foundation soil capacity etc in the sun,. I am sure everyone will see me smile !!! :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    In comparison to say SOnia, mamta and Mayawati… she wins by a mile.

    She will make a good PM. Her handling of Karuna, who has unleashed his entire family onto the state resources is commendable. She also did not sway along communal lines or on regional lines during the LTTE years.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    My respect for this lady is growing everyday. I wish other CM’s also
    follow her model of governing.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    Why do you think the CM is opposed to the expansion of metro in Chennai? Most state govts. want to replicate the success story of Delhi Metro in their cities.

    Ex-DMRC chief says that the monorail option preferred by the CM is more expensive and can be used as a feeder service to the metro network at the best. I don’t have reasons to not beleive what he says.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    I believe she will come around as she did for the nuclear plant.

    I sense the issue of Mono vs Metro has a lot to do with her animosity to Karunanidhi – she believes Karunanidhi is a total crook, not a patriot and not interested in Indias welfare . Metro was Karunanidhi’s initiative.

    She may be mistakenly believing that Mono will put her on world map – as you know it is supposed to be the largest monorail.

    My guess is that she will go with Mr Sridharan’s recommendation, although a global tender has been placed..

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  • Anonymous

    Bal Thackeray ’shocked’ at Maha’s ‘contract to feed a snake’

    http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Bal-Thackeray-shocked-at-Mahas-contract-to-feed-a-snake/937438/

    Terming as “shocking” the Maharashtra Government’s decision to share water with people in the scarcity-hit districts in neighbouring Karnataka, Shiv Sena chief Bal Thackeray today said the Congress-led government in Maharashtra has “betrayed” the state.

    “It seems that Maharashtra government has taken a contract to feed a snake. In Karnataka, immense atrocities are being heaped on Marathi-speaking people but our government has forgotten those atrocities and decided to share water with that state,” Thackeray said, in an editorial in party mouthpiece Saamana.

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    Now who is calling someone a snake?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This whole water/river issue is nonsense.

    These are Indias rivers – not Thackrey’s nor Karunanidhi’s.

    The Cauvery water issue (sharing between karnataka and Tamil Nadu) , the Mul;laperiyar issue (Kerala and Tamil Nadu), the Narmada issue (Karnataka/Maharashtra) are older than me.

    Ambedkar and co were focused on classifying minorities and majorities while drafting the constituition while ignoring little things like water.

    Just imagine how simple things would have been had they included rivers were national property (nobody would have objected because we did not have linguistic states then)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi -

    Water from the Colorado river is used by all downstream western states in USA. California’s abundant agricultural crops/lands will be non-existent without this water. I do not think there is any water sharing agreement between those states.(Rajeev,Pankaj,Benoy – any insights?)

    How do other large democratic countries handle their water resource among their various regions/states?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    That is why I am suggesting that lets build on water security – all these river wars will be over.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thackrey calling Shenoy a snake?

    That’s okay.

    We need to live with our new found love for federalism.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Surely Bal Thakre must have visited this blog and checked out. What did he find out – that the resident abuser’s target was Mahesh – a Marathi Manoos and surely that is never tolerated by the Shiv Sena (how dare you abuse a son of the soil) , hence the invective.

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  • Anonymous

    Three cheers to Parliament
    Gopalkrishna Gandhi

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article3321341.ece?homepage=true

    Chennai comes up with innovative ideas. ‘Prime Point,’ set up by a gentleman known in true Tamil Nadu-style as ‘Prime Point Srinivasan,’ has instituted a set of awards for parliamentarians called Sansad Ratna Awards. ‘PP’ felicitously chose Ambedkar Jayanti for the conferment ceremony this year and conferred the honour on four MPs:

    Anand Rao Adsul — Number 1 in Questions (754). The total tally of debates, private bills and questions raised — 784.

    Hansraj Gangaram Ahir — Number 1 in private bills — 20 in number. Questions raised — 755.

    S.S. Ramasubbu — Number 3 at the all-India level with a total score of 742 questions. Attendance — 97 per cent.

    Arjun Ram Meghwal — Number 1 in debates with 251 debates to his credit. Attendance — 100 per cent.

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    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~~ KYA HAI ISS CD KA TERRIFIC SACH ???~~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————-

    Abhishek Manu Singhvi’s drvver has shot this.

    headlines today wants to broadcast it as a sting …. !!

    India Today wants to do a stroy on this.

    Abhishek Singhiv has taken a court order against it calling it something which will damage his repuration irreparably and forever….

    Well when other CD’s can come out… why not this one???

    Sach pata lage ya nahi

    Or are the trolls going to do a dandiya…”Modi modi rape rape…?”

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  • Anonymous

    Is India prepared to defend if there is a war?

    The shocking truth about India’s armed forces.

    http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-the-shocking-truth-about-india-s-armed-forces/20120417.htm

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    more shocking is the way UPA is capitulating to absolve Pakistan and be friends… after getting NOTHING in return. This lowering of guard will probably result in a terror didvidend , like the Afghianistan got , 3 days back. UPA Uncle hafeez saeed has already promised this.

    Mohan, one gud joke which i saw on TImes form My office last night. General Zia’s son telling Arnab that Osama was never in Paksitan… it is all a media story.!!

    They say it with such conviction… I think they have started beleving it themselves… :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    I am wondering whether our friend Engrich is the source of Zia’s son or it is other way around.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Maybe Engrich is zia’s son !

    Simple as that !

    Anonymous Reply:

    But, to be fair to engrich, we have not understood him properly or fully.

    He gets activated only when there is a Zionst, Brhmnst conspiracy. Zia the cobra’s son said clearly that it was an American conspiracy.s

    Anonymous Reply:

    Over night Vijay’s Uncle became UPA’s uncle !

    Some transformation !!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ;-) ;-)

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think you have full reason to smile as ur pal supports the LeT and like a true domesti you will for sure :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Oh comeon

    He was always UPA’s uncle. UPA wanted him tombecome India’s uncle.

    Vijay is one guy who has truth as his mentor.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You just wanted to be known as his celebrated Bhatija for some time ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    He was factually right, though.

    Osama was found in Pak-shit-stan.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely… next to a smiling cobra…!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    We lost the 1962 Chinese war because our Jawans did not have anything to fight with.

    Both Nehru and his defence minister and fellow socialist from Oxford or wherever Krishna Menon were very good in making speeches all over the world while Chinese, even in those days, were equipping their army.

    At least in 1962 we had a legitimate money – food or gun – issue. We do not have it now.

    I blame the military. The article says the ministry has given a goal of fighting in two fronts simultaneously. It is military’s role to come up with the “list” of stuff to do that; however it looks like they are waiting somebody to tell them how to fight in two fronts. The article also says they come up with all the imaginary capabilities that nobody can fulfill.

    I was counting on the army to take over Delhi..now it looks like they may even be not able to accomplish that!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Sad thing is that these things are being covered by media. I thought
    anything to do with military will be highly classified.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is a problem of “plenty”.

    This happens in the corporate world too.

    A startup fired with imagination, takes on the big guys with a very limited resources and gets noticed.

    Then he gets funded.

    Suddenly the fancy CEO wants everything to make things look big and spectacular. He makes fancy demands. The CEO attends fancy seminars and give fancy lectures. Everything becomes fancier by the day, except the core objectives.

    That’s what has happened to the Indian Army.

    The budget is growing by the day. The list of demand just getting longer. The GAP analysis is getting fancier.

    Yes, we have become the victim of the plenty.

    [ In a 2 year tenure, think how much time the Army Chief has spent his valuable time in public spats. Instead of giving shape to a new doctrine, he has spent time, resources in silly, petty things. ]

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay

    Good analysis.

    One thing we may need is the Joint Chiefs of Staff like they have in US.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That is not likely to happen(*) and in any case that is not the solution to the problems army or other wings may be facing.

    * The idea has been mooted several times in the past, but not found favour with the Governments.

    Anonymous Reply:

    A army – civil balance has been maintained in a very delicate manner.

    Anonymous Reply:

    From the information in the public domain , the contents of the leaked letter of the Chief to the PM , he has been highlighting the shortage of ammunition , small arms , operational equipment for Special Forces , Air defence equipment , etc. They hardly qualify to be called ” Fancy Equipment.” . As for a doctrine or new strategies , I do not trhink they would ever disclose it , even the existence of one. But our security set up does not end with the Army Chief . We have institutions like the Cabinet Committee on Security, the National Security Adviser , NSAB , and others . What have they been doing ?
    And we are still waiting to know has the IB discovered about the leaked letter of the Chief ? Or is that Inquiry still going on and shall go on and on ? The government had announced strictest action against the offender with a lot of fanfare.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, then we must learn to “prioritise” the items.

    It’s like the wife first buying most expensive jewels and then cribbing about not having money for a pair of sandals.

    Looks like it has never happened to you in all these years !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    If you don’t mind can you please leave aside your cynic remarks for the time being and tell whether it is all the fault of army that they don’t
    even have basic arms and ammunition.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Let us see if the MOD / Army has returned any unused budget !

    Please check.

    Also check, if Army’s requests have been turned down or not in the past.

    Not to make it part of a standard budgetary allocation and make it sound like faux pas is not a good sign of a leader.

    [ For many years, when people asked me if I had any vices, I always said "I don't even take paan ( beetle ) !" and allowing people to take their judgement.

    So when somebody complains that there is a shortage of small arms and ammunitions, it's being projected as if the Army never got money and the Govt. has not provided it with enough fund. ]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    If I had all the sources to check all these then I would
    not be asking. Anyway thanks.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It’s not difficult.

    Budget allocation, refunds are available on the websites and also become standard news.

    I believe the Army has fully/almost utilised its budgetary allocation.

    Anonymous Reply:

    isnt army a part of the government

    Anonymous Reply:

    Army is the “user”.

    The user demands and gets the budget accordingly.

    So it’s ridiculous for the Army Chief to write such a letter to the PM talking about shortage of basic ammunition towards end of his tenure.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But, you have admitted on your blogs that you are fond of “drinks”, (which perhaps you imbibe daily after a hard day at the TV studios).

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kamaksha Prashad,

    When I start my blog, I will invite you as the anchor brand. Then Vijay too will come.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    If you don’t mind can you please leave aside your cynic remarks for the time being and tell whether it is all the fault of army that they don’t
    even have basic arms and ammunition.

    Anonymous Reply:

    How do you know that he did not prioritise. Has any authority said so far that the list given by the Army was not properly drawn. And not just the Army ,there were CAG reports saying the same thing. CAG reports can only be based on Army correspondence.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If it was prioritised, then the Army Chief should not be talking of lack of basic ammunitions. He should have known what to get first with the huge budgetary allocation.

    And he should not be writing that latter in March 2012 towards end of his tenure.

    Instead of specially calling the files of Vectra and cancelling the order after few weeks of taking the rein, he should have taken steps to procure the “basic ammunitions” for his army.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The letter to the PM thru the Defence Minister was as per normal practice , and this has been oft clarified by the Defence Ministry. The budgetary allocation is with the Defence Ministry which does the procurement. The army only places its indent with the Ministry. How has cancellation of Vectra interfered with his indent for basic equipment ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Priority” of Action.

    One happens beginning of his tenure, the other one happens towards end of his tenure.

    He should have taken of the shortage of ammunition first with the Govt.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Not just the present Chief but even earlier Chiefs have been writing the govt about the Shortage of Equipment. It is nobody’s case that the Govt came to know of shortage of equipment only thru the March 2012 letter .

    Anonymous Reply:

    There is a difference between the “shortage of equipments” and the “shortage of ammunitions”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    So in reality, your grouse is against the cancellation of the Vectra deal. Wah, Vinodji,
    your mask has just slipped.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kamaksha Prashad,

    Bury a little deeper in the sand. This time not the tail but the neck.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    I agree with you about these fancy seminars and all such
    things. I have attended few when I used to work for the bank.
    Power point presentations, selling pitches from 5-6 sales
    persons for the same product but in a different styles.
    Very rarely anything concrete comes out of these seminars.
    Actual deals are done behind the closed doors.

  • Anonymous

    All the people accused of the broad daylight massacre in Bathon Tola are acquitted by the Patna High court!

    The lower court had sentenced them – a few for capital punishment and others for the maximum jail.

    I bet this judgment will create another thousands of Maoists!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Police should come up with the airtight case with proper evidences before
    going to the court. Otherwise we have many smart lawyers who can easily
    punch holes in the case filed by police.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In all probability it will. The police in all the states do not do their jobs properly – either they are incompetent or ……………

    A tragic state of affairs.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Sanjay,

    The box became very small.
    I am surprised that even after budget almost fully utilized, still we hear about
    army not having basic items. Is army consulted before making a budget or was
    budget so small that money for even these items was not allocated . I am really
    confused, something is happening between government and army which we
    are not able to discern. Why they are fighting through media, why don’t they
    resolve this behind closed doors? We are talking about army – the most important
    body of the country – not some small bureaucrats.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The user always makes the demand first.

    Can you help if somebody tries to self-immolate and be a martyr ?

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Ishwar

    Congratulations. Celebrate.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Would you mind passing the “katora of malaai” back to me, please?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you want a bowl of peanuts, let me know – yeh malaai valaai ke liye koi halwaai ke dukaan par chale jaao.

    See new post re: Delhi elections.

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  • Anonymous

    Sanjayji

    The sort of scam Abhishek Manu ji is involved in… do you think it would be the right message to send to the youth of the country for character building?

    What would have been the COngressi reaction in case a BJP chief spokesman or leader was involved in such a thing?

    And most of all you enjopyed yourself so much in a non existent sex scam in Gujarat, what is your view on this real thing?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    It seems I missed something. What is this thing about Manu Singhvi?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pooche mat poocho mat Mohan bhaiya!! WOh Congressi hai… spokesman bhi.

    Brother Sanjay is also silent.

    Kanchan GUpta has leaked out that poor guy was being blackmailed by his driver with a CD for _ _ _ against favours with some lawyer. Inida Today,, AAj Tak and Headlines wanted to do a story. Sorry It would be bad for me to leak out further than what is known on the net.

    Strange that all the COngressis did all the 25 folk dances of India on a non existent porn scam in Gujarat have gone on maun vrat.

    Chief spokesman ji CHief spokemsn who castigated the BJP for loose character….

    Very funny world! Dikhane ka kuch… andar se kuch aur…

    Read the mail before it is censored. :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manoharji who wrote such beautiful prose on character is also invited to comment since he his servile to all congressis. Please give us a lengthy treatise on character now…

    Anonymous Reply:

    HA HA AHA!! to all my firends !

    Anonymous Reply:

    You have started laughing at your own posting !!!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    ab kyaa karen.

    jab saathidaar nahin haste, to dil ko khush rakhne ke liye, use khudd hasnaa paDtaa hai, nahin to log kyaa kahe.nge.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Coomon Manohar

    The thing which really made me laugh is when you said terrorists dont come by visas. You were basically trying to prove that Pakistanis are not terrorists… but BJP wants bad relations with them, in a farcical logic. So mohammad Atta fell from the sky or David Headaly came from the earht like a worm?

    ABhi bhi hansi aa rahi hai…!

    Thx for the joke !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Any chance I can get my hands on that CD.

    Anonymous Reply:

    No problems. Our blog master is a CD specialist.
    But ask for the CD privately and confidentially. Take an oath of secrecy. You will get a CD by courier.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “…Very funny world! Dikhane ka kuch… andar se kuch aur……”

    -

    We heard very juicy stories about Shri Joshi recently.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What’s the story? I guess I missed it too.

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  • Anonymous

    Congress jeete ya BJP jeete kya farak padega dilli mein?
    balatkaar, choriyan, ghoos kya band ho jayenge dilli mein?
    Kabhi aayenge BJP ke neta to kabhi congress ke neta aayenge
    par jo hota aaya hai wahi hota rahega hamesha dilli mein.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Wow…

    we have a new poet laureate !

    (posted in 37 deg sun from site )

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, Vijay Kumar,

    the congress is set for a sound drubbing in the Delhi elections, if the trend continues.

    The seemingly unflappable congress has reacted predictably, saying these are noly municipal elections.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yaar, BJP jeeti hai, ek aur peg pee le naa, kya farak paDegaa app ’system’ ko.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I am sure you know from my regular postings that I don’t need any reason for
    drinking.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes. I realised. Just for the heck of it. ;-)

  • Anonymous

    Relief for Maharashtra govt, Adarsh panel says land does not belong to Army.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Relief-for-Maharashtra-govt-Adarsh-panel-says-land-does-not-belong-to-Army/articleshow/12701524.cms

    Does this means that there was no fraud?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    We should wait for a day and let more details be known probably via the print media, then we can discus it in detail.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Trinamool MP Kabir Suman mocks Mamata over ‘toongate’, composes song

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Trinamool-MP-Kabir-Suman-mocks-Mamata-over-toongate-composes-song/articleshow/12702003.cms

    Causing more embarrassment to West Bengal chief minister Mamata Banerjee, who is drawing flak over the arrest of a professor for circulating cartoons, singer-turned-Trinamool Congress MP Kabir Suman has composed a song, “Hasi Niye Thako” (Live with a smile), mocking the state government.

    =============

    Read on.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Goons thrash retd scientist, strip his daughter near Kolkata

    http://blogs.hindustantimes.com/separated-at-birth/2012/04/16/merciless-mamata/

    In the latest atrocity to rock the state, a retired scientist was beaten up and his daughter stripped on the outskirts of Kolkata on Sunday. Dr Aparesh Bhattacharya, 60, was thrashed, and his 30-year old daughter, Aditi, stripped and beaten, allegedly by members of a club at Baruipur, before the duo was thrown out of their rented house on Sunday afternoon.

    Worse, officers of Baruipur police station, who reached the spot more than two and a half hours after the incident, refused to record the victims’ complaint or take them to hospital.

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  • Anonymous

    Sanjayji… yeh chuppi kab tak rahegi???

    By the way even Mamta wants to censor facebook now.

    As it is opening a facebook account in India is now conditional to giving a residence proof… by giving a phone number.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    ???

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    No comments on Abhishek Singvhi’s CD doing the rounds. Some jaipur based papers have reported that his driver had shot it… some story of _ _ _ for favours… etc.

    Blackmail. India Today AAj tak get hands on it. Broadcast danger. Total maun from all Congressis….

    Singhvi gets court to band CD as it will irreperably dmage him and Congress.

    Yeh sab kuch kya ho raha hai Sanjayji? That is why I always say that COngress is a national jewel which has to be recopvered form Naukercy and sycophancy.

    By the way you must have enjoyed the CD as much as you did the non existent porn phot in Gujarat? .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What’s the story?

    How do you manage to write so much without giving any info ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Beating around the bush is so much easier.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manoharji

    As a nauker of the COngress what do spin do you have to cover the moral turpitude… especailly when you wrote boring chapters on the non existent Gujarat porn scam?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay
    Do tell us something… just some hints would do.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do you think Vijay would have waited had he known ?

    The post would have been atleast 5x of its size.

    Anonymous Reply:

    इंतज़ार और अभी,और अभी,और अभी
    इंतज़ार और अभी,और अभी,और अभी

  • Anonymous

    Caught in the act? Now, an ‘objectionable’ CD of Abhishek Manu Singhvi
    Source: PTI | Last Updated 09:47(17/04/12) Share9|

    : Abhishek Manu Singhvi Share New Delhi: The Delhi High Court has restrained a media house from publishing, telecasting and broadcasting the contents of a CD pertaining to Congress leader and a leading advocate Abhishek Manu Singhvi.

    “Till the next hearing, the defendants (the media house), their agents and all others acting for and/or on their behalf are restrained from publishing, broadcasting and disseminating or distributing in any form or any manner the content of any alleged CD or any other material as described in the plaint,” Justice Reva Khetrapal said in an order on a civil suit filed by Singhvi.

    He had sought a restraint on the media group from making public the contents of the alleged CD. The court has also sought response by May 21 from Aaj Tak, Headlines Today and India Today and Singhvi’s former driver, alleged mastermind behind the scandal.

    “Irreparable injury is likely to be caused to the reputation and goodwill of Singhvi in case the defendants are not restrained. Accordingly, issue notice to defendants (one to four) which is returnable by May 21,” it said.

    Singhvi alleged that the CD was “forged, concocted, morphed and fabricated”. Any move to telecast the alleged CD would infringe the right to reputation of Singhvi, the plea said.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Why the forged, concocted and fabricated CD was morphed?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Spin +Spin = reverse swing !

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    ha ha ha !!!

    On second thoughts, this should stop. It is similar to chappal/shoe throwing – gets unnecessary publicity. We should be wary of these media houses on the payroll of Congress. They might come up with something similar (or worse) against the opposition too for the sake of their TRP and their paymasters.

    The opposition won’t even be able to obtain a restrain order from the courts.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    have fun for now. The Cognress will anyway use all material with untost goebbelsian ferocity, whenever it gets a chance.as it did i the Amar Singh CD and the fake Gujrat porn case.

    A pert of me pities Manu/ But then he came out so strongly against others using a non scam on a moral platform. Blackmail by a driver could be dangerous and in case such a CD fell into the hand of Telecom and defence dahals… they could have twisted things.

  • Anonymous

    Ok some hint is there. There is a story on Dainik Bhaskar website that the Net is buzzing with jokes on the episode. Singhvi is being called a disciple of N D Tewari.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Disciple of N D Tiwari? It is a compliment in this field.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I got a lot of feed in from twitter.

    The COngress has been reduced to a joke.

    Morals of the story
    —————————

    a) People who live in glass houses should not throw stones at others

    b) Five minutes of fun… can lead you to fifty years of explaining !

    c) Be careful of your drivers!! They are wattching and shooting everything…. :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    a) Cover glass houses with blinds.
    b) five minutes? Thats too long, was he high on cocaine?
    c) bribe your drivers before the act, not after.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    5 minues — he was on viagra (and sued Viagra because it was only five mnutes!)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Aap bhi?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Beutifull !!

    Seems that Congress is really a gud joke which makes ll of us laugh !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    The buzz is that he has l drafted his complaint … and his case is strong as there is a witness …

    Anonymous Reply:

    funny indeed…

    btw he represented Endosulphin (??) , the dangerous pesticide co, whose product crippled many in north kerala near the govt agricultural farm land.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Lawyers– especially corporate and TV faces– are making money in crores and crores. The driver would definately ask for blackmail in crores….

    Five Minutes … unn paanch minutes ke liye puri duinya ki jung hai… Life is funny…

  • Anonymous

    Sanjayji

    You once made a theorem that becsue fo the non existent sex scam in Gujarat, parents will stop children from joining computer classes.

    Now do you think I should sell all my shares of CD comapnies as parents will stip children from buiying CD’s? Did the COngress have the upliftment of USB companies in mind that it allowed this scam so that CDs will stop selling . (this is extende spin.. cong style…)

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay rarely get things straight.

    - A theorem.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    AM in full mood for a duel… but got to rush to Noida… c u later…

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    For him, the shortest distance between two points is not a straight line.

    - A corollary.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I know. David Headly came by parachute. I learnt this from you

    And of course… the attack on NATO by Taliban and ISI was a RSS and BJP plot to defame Paksitan which is an innocent sponsor of peace. (as per ur post 3 days back)

    Anonymous Reply:

    And a parachute descends in a spiral!

  • Anonymous

    The real problem with the COngress :
    —————————————————-

    Manu Singhvi’s political career has now probably ended. His story is somewhat true for most of COngress

    Here area few facts.

    a) He represnted the lottery companies which had all the poor in some sort of satta scam even when lottery was banned

    b) He advised Union Carbide even when India was pitted against Carbide

    c) He represented the endosulphin companies ( As gopi mentioned)

    d) He spoke about porn watching by BJP and castigated them.

    And now the truth is out. Is this not lying, double standards and smugness….. just becasue you have the media under control and you control the engish speaking Indians?

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan

    Regarding the Adarsh “finding” – One does not know whether to laugh or cry…

    It is similar to the Patna high court verdict on the 1996 massacre in Bathon Thola.

    The powerful creates their own law.

    I was counting on the army to take over. But now with the Janes weekly revelations, I dont think I can count on them either!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Yes Gopiji powerful people do make laws in our country. It is they who decide
    not the courts that who should be caught and who should be set free.

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  • Anonymous

    Ishwar

    Delhi Municipal Corporation Election Results.

    1) My posting a link to Maharashtra municipal corporation results earlier was to take a dig at Anna Hazare. I had asked where is Anna Hazare?

    2) Now the points to note –

    a) the top Congress leadership in Delhi did not go to town with the Band Baajaa re: municipal corporation results in Maharashtra.

    b) If you visit the newspaper websites, starting from Nitin Gadkari downwards – the BJP leadership is going around with the trumpets re: Delhi elections.

    What say?

    ———-

    Congratulations once more.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The top COngress leadership has no spokesman as its cheif spokesman is hding in a CD… that is why…

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  • Anonymous

    @ Sanjay

    I am on the move… but am tempted to ask you, since you have an ear into the COngress office.

    Why is the UPA surrendering to Paksitan when the world is out to nail it.

    Is it not obvious that Pakistan is deliberatley putting on a behsh badl wala act to get seeta out of lakshman Rekha… (India) while it goes all out to attack Afghanistan. So Pakistan needs a quiet Eastern border for two years.

    Who is framing this policy? Rahul and company or MMS?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I might have told you before that your observations are rather flat and unidimensional. If I have not said that before, then take it as my opinion about your views.

    India has a small window to be somebody out there. She missed the Industrial revolution. This IT revolution has brought India some glory and economic power. But this is not going to last for eternity. The advantage of arbitrage will shift and India will slowly lose the edge. So we have a very small window to strengthen our economic status, consolidate the political power in the region.

    Make hay while the sun shines.

    But a disturbed neighbourhood and poor internal security take the resources away. The energy gets depleted. The political will is distracted and disturbed.

    Only for India’s sake, Pakistan needs to be “contained” and be kept hanging on a hook.

    Thanks to NDA, India has lost the supremacy of the conventional weapons . Today Pakistan has become a declared nuclear state. It moves its nuclear assets openly with a slightest provocation.

    Pakistan also uses terrorism as a state policy.

    So how do we contain Pakistan ?

    Use its own aspiration.

    Pakistan now wants to be like India.

    So we must use of Pakistan’s aspiration to be economically well off so that Pakistan uses its own resources to contain the Jehadi elements. Pakistan understands that it can implode anytime with these jehadi elements and it is not easy to throttle these jehadi elements at will as musharaff had thought. There is a price to be paid for.

    So when we open up a little with our soft power, Pakistan will get suck into that system wherein it has to put in more effort to stabilise its own system and the neighbourhood than India.

    In the process, Pakistan will gain, but India’s gain will be multifold. India can easily do the business on the World stage.

    So opening up to Pakistan is a very little price to be paid for the gain we can have on the World stage. pakistan is not ready with the infrastructure to maximise the benefit. By the time it’s ready, India would have zooomed off to different orbit !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay

    What a waste of time and energy!

    Do you think that the local hawks here are going to appreciate the points you have articulated so well? No, if you ask me. Nothing less than a complete destruction of the neighbour will satisfy them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Like Pakistan, some elements here too needed to be kept engaged. We hardly have any choice. One has to deal with their tantrums, shifting goalposts and ideas about the Nationhood.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay

    1) Have you noticed the similarities between the Uncle-Nephew duo, which is but natural?

    The former wants to destruct India and his nephew here wants to annihilate Pakistan. Chaachaa-Bhatijaa think alike.

    2) Shifting goal posts is so much easier for some of the hawk(er)s here.
    .
    If you start discussing Thermodynamics or Game Theory or Tiger Population or Modi, the goalpost shifts to the Family with a click of the mouse. All roads lead to 10, Janpath and their ‘naukars’.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Chacha-Bhatija ! Nice !!
    Both love and thrive on rhetoric !!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon Manu Singhvi;s shame has driven you to this?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Very poor exit strategy.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I never exited from a fight without winning it ! And the Congress khema will lose this one badly… ! :)

    The point is how can you talk about porn when your party’s spokesman is being blackmailed by his driver. wHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN CASE THE defence dalals fgot hold of the cd ot the 3g scamsters?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Start a new thread, we will talk about whatever you have in mind.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon Manohar

    now you have to do naukeri of Sanjay to survive :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    As often you do to Shenoy ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    sanjay do you actually beleive your own spin on behalf of the congress?

    Anonymous Reply:

    What do I need to believe?

    That you do not agree with Shenoy often ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar beleives that David Headley came via parachute. So do you beleive that. he also beleives that MOhammad Atta and gang nevr took visas to go to US, so you also beleives that?

    Manohar ji also believes that Pakistan is a harbinger of peace whose fair name is being spoilt by BJP and RSS. Do you also beleive this?

    Anonymous Reply:

    You were taunting manohar about being a naukar to me because he agreed with me. Do you also do the same when you agree with Shenoy ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    And in turn fake Sanjay has to do congress naukri for survival and not to be separated from the spoils of decorations and RS seat etc.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    Congress ruled this country 92% of the days after independence.

    All the blame is squarely on them and the populace at large for electing them and not holding their feet on the ground.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    Does blaming anyone and wailing solve the problem?

    Ask yourself, as to why alternate political forces have not been able to convince the electorate that they would have done a better job.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nothing lasts for ever. The electorate has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long.

    Things are changing. The writing is there on the wall – some people can’t see it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Watch the YouTube programme (the link above) and then we will talk.

    You are right, some people cannot see the writing on the wall. We all know which set does not wish to open their eyes.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Unfortunately, I am at work right now and the computers here won’t allow a link from YouTube. Would try to watch it at home in after 10:30 pm as I wait for the UEFA Champions league semi-finals between Real Madrid and Bayern Munich which kicks off at 15 past midnight.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    You should not only become a politician but should also try your hand on writing
    political thrillers. Freindship with Pakistan will raise India to do business at world
    statge? Wow, now Inidia is even depended on Pakistan on this matter.
    Because of NDA India has lost the supremacy of convention weopons?
    Did NDA stopped not to buy any conventional weopons?
    Is there anything left on which you can put blame on NDA for the misfortunes of India.?
    I am really surprised how India survived during those horrible six years of NDA rule.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You can run a marathon to glory, if you only take that “tiny thorn” away from your foot !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay.

    This is what even I am saying. Take out that thorn
    and just discard it, but what you are advocating is
    that we make a garland of that thorn and wear it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Unfortunately, you can not change your neighbour ( or discard the thorn )…just “keep the thorn in your pocket”, so that it does not prick your feet while you are running.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    If you keep the thorn in your pocket,
    then just imagine where it will start
    hurting you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Borrow the guard from Vijay. he always keeps it on whenever I bowl to him.

    Anonymous Reply:

    His spin to the facts is yet another sign that he is none other than the party’s top spinner himself.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Another long post saying what a Congress spokesperson would i.e. blame the NDA for everything.

    As if without them, the country would have been clocking 12% growth rate and Pakistan would have stopped terror as a state policy against us.

    Not unexpected though, uncle!!

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  • Anonymous

    In all the excitement of CD, Delhi Elections, we seem to have missed an interesting comment by one Bharati Singh . Here it is

    bharati singh

    So far we were struggling to have minimum qualification and clean criminal record should be the basic criteria for selection of our respectecfullll leaders, behan mamta has added a new one – Psychological test must be conducted to keep insane characters away from politics.

    ———-

    How apt.

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  • Anonymous

    Statutory warning: The following programme contains a F-word (in the lexicon of the some of the Hindutvawadis) – Nehru. You have been warned, watch it at your own peril. If you squirm, do not blame me.

    What can Pakistan learn from Indian education system?
    (Sochta Pakistan, 20 Jan 2012)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYmnPGHBkbE

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  • Anonymous

    @ Sanjay

    Thanks for telling me I am uni dimesnsional. I take it as a compliment since I am unwavering in my commitment ot fight terror. I am not like a barsati kukkad or a weather vane which changes direction as per profit motive or what the malkin or chotta baba of the house direct you to.

    You need balls and unwavering resolve to fight terror and UPA does not have it.

    I think the UPA is making a huge huge mistake. Somehitng similar to what Rajiv gandhi did i the eighties when he was carried away by Gen Zia’s promises that there was no terror emnating from Paksitan. In fact some of the old Punjabis refugee journos are still not convinced that Pakistan actually bred terror– ask Kuldip Nayar or Khushwant Singh, right now to check up. They valued their personal frienddhsip with Zia higher.

    They beleived that the geb would never lie to them.

    IK Gujral fell in the same trap.

    I have a feelign that MMS may be falling in the same gutter.

    Sanjay, I think in a matter of one year I will change your mindset. Manohar is already being pushed to come out to give more and more logic to justify mental slavery to family rule. he will change for the better I am sure.

    Since you mentioned VIMHANS and some psychiatirsts, why dont you ask them who Kumar is… and what project is on to treat scizophrenia with his help and recondition the mind….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “..Sanjay, I think in a matter of one year I will change your mindset…”

    Nice to be ambitious.
    In my whole life I have not managed to convince a single person. Who ever changed because they saw the truth themselves, not because of me.

    [ Tell your friends at Vimhans to use special "touch based multi level games" for cognitive training to help "recover the brain injury areas" and not to look desperately elsewhere. ]

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I will definately look into this and refer it on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The key is that it has to be “touch based” not “click based”, because there is a relationship between the touch and brain remapping.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dont I know it ! All the girls tell me… you are all hands..

    Anyway more seriously speaking research has been done to link various areas in the feet to match corresponding areas in the brain. Which would also apply to the hand…

    And which is why…. we may get a patent on a product…

    Anonymous Reply:

    One needs to teach them use both hands and feet to give them the sense of space and relationship with the World. Hand based touch can bring things closer and feet can push things away..a very primary start up point…then the combo that can help them deal with objects “simultaneously”…. well…it’s kinda vast area to touch upon here.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay/Vijay

    Why suddenly both of you have started
    discussing in an alien language? This
    is public forum and others also are part
    of this. Bhai mere thoda khayal karo hamaraa

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sorry.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    It was just a sincere request, no apologizing please.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    if you follow the line of fake Sanjay’s arguments, his effort is to tire Vijay Kumar with all kinds of inanities. When somebody gives fiting replies to him, such posts are censored immediately.

    Chith bhi unki, patt bhi unhi ki.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    I don’t think both will
    change their stance,
    then why not just enjoy
    their ‘fight’.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, in the Mahabharat, sanjay was supposed to have narrated the entire war’s “ankhon dekha haal” to the blind emperor, Dhritarashtra.

    This Sanjay is leading everybody down some blind alley with his non-sense like touch based and click based something, which only the God with three eyes knows.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I have already said sorry to Mohan. perhaps you want me to repeat..

  • Anonymous

    Ishwar

    You wrote

    Nothing lasts for ever. The electorate has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long.

    Things are changing. The writing is there on the wall – some people can’t see it.

    ——-

    What a daft point to make

    The same electorate that has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long put the NDA into the hot seat in 90s,
    .
    The same electorate that has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long put elected Modi with a thumping majority twice already and will do so again later this year.

    The same electorate that has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long put elected BJP in MP, Chhatisgarh, etc. and recently in Goa.

    The same electorate that has been kept poor, scared and illiterate for far too long today reposed their faith in the BJP today in Delhi Municipal elections.

    What say?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Am I being lured into some kind of trap?

    What I meant was this. The traditional vote bank of the Congress is slipping away. Earlier, they could count on the SCs. STs, other backward casts (and some forward cast people for different considerations) and muslims. It is no longer the case. People are getting aspirational and asking for more. Mere words don’t help and the corruption higher up in the govt. has climbed to an unimaginable level. As a nation of generous and practical people, we can live with a bit of corruption here and there. We know that politicians don’t spend their time and money for charity – they would make money. The problem arises when they go past the acceptable limit and it’s not a very thin line.

    Only if we had a more honest media, things would have changed much quicker. The role of the media is to act like a watch-dog and question those in power. What we see instead is that it works the other way. For ads or other considerations, it works overtime to defend the govt. decisions, cooks up spin to every story and questions the opposition instead. Another thing it needs to learn from the media of developed countries is to excercise restraint in reporting and avoid sensationalising trivial things like a show throwing, mobile porn watching, kid falling in a bore-well etc.

    Looks like one of my longest post ever!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    A long post yes, but what you have said is 100% correct.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    I agree with you.

    Your arguments cuts both ways. You are perfectly within your rights to believe there is a big slippage in the Congress’ vote bank, but that is not falling into the ‘jholi’ of the BJP and if it is, then they have been unable to take advantage, as they do not seem to know what to do with those gift boxes.

    I have said this before. If you have noticed, that this slippage also applies to the BJP too. Both these two big parties need to get their houses in order, otherwise regional players with divergent narrow agendas will call the shots and we are going to have a big crisis in terms of stability and policies.

    For example, for the BJP – IMO, Manohar Parrikar is the man.

    Porn watching and all that were just minor side shows (I have been dismissive about them).

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  • Anonymous

    150 Afghan schoolgirls poisoned in anti-education attack

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/150-Afghan-schoolgirls-poisoned-in-anti-education-attack/articleshow/12705738.cms

    Earlier fundamentalist in Afghanistan were stopping girls from going to school
    and now they are try to kill them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Criminal to say the least. I think the Afghan government and international organisations must do something about it and now.

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  • Anonymous

    Ishwar

    I hope BJP will use the Delhi victory as a platform to build on and expand. They have to get their house in order, ensure the mining and crime mafia in MP is brought under law, empower the young grass-root leaders, provide Modi venues etc etc

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    Anonymous Reply:

    To me the victory in municipal elections in Delhi was primarily due to the increasing popularity of BSP and others. This time I could see a number of people who would have otherwise voted for Congress being lured into voting for BSP etc.

    BJP has its own vote bank and it almost does a favour to the party by coming out to vote. The traditional Congress voters from the (relatively) poorer section of the society ensure that they show up at the booth on the polling day – only to vote for someone else this time. The division of votes of this section of the society has resulted in BJP’s victory this time. This is not to say that none of them vote/voted for BJP. They were sick of the price rise and corruption and wanted to teach the Congress a lesson. It signals to a larger worry for that party as and when the assembly/general elections are held.

    I don’t beleive in the existence of a mining mafia in MP – its a media story. I had never heard of the Reddy brothers under Congress rule in Karnataka. They had been mining long before Yeddyuruppa became the CM.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Why do you say “BJP has its own vote bank and it almost does a favour to the party by coming out to vote”?

    Care to elaborate?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Look at any online opinion poll or the comments section of news websites, you would see the majority against the ruling UPA. Walk up to the polling station, the profile of people you see there tells a different story – where are they?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    You seem to suggest that BJP won because of the congress vote got split among BSP and SP. Is it so? If so, then the Congress does not have to fear the BJP and has to fight Mulayam and Mayawati. Am I on the right track? Has the BJP support plateaued?

    We still do not have the details of the voting percentage and vote share, etc.

  • Anonymous

    Shenoy,

    The box got smaller there. I am sure everybody would have noticed that how
    Sanjay vehemently defends UPA. I will not go to that length and accuse him
    of coming on this blog with some agenda. May be he really believes that UPA and their
    policies will ultimately bring positive results for India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    since this afternoon, “Sanjay” is in a flap. He has really lost the balance of mind which has reflected in his weird kind of arguments.

    But, now I have a key to his discomfiture, squirming, loss of appetite, an acute thirst for the drink that lifts you etc.

    he was speaking, repeatedly about a chacha-bathija team.

    Thanks to Praveen Saxena, I have been able to unravel the mystery.

    N.D.TIWARI IS THE CHACHA AND ABHISHEK MANU SINGHVI IS THE BATHIJA.

    Both are staunch congressmen, both have common loves.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Because of these people, producers of Viagra have become
    multi-millionaires.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks for trending me since this afternoon.

    Going by the past record, you can ever barely add to my discomfiture.

    I like the original Chacha-Bhatija team – both living and thriving on rhetoric.

    Your Chacha Bhatija team has no dum like the original, whether you take one=on-one or team by team.

    What say Vijay, the original Bhatija ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay

    I have challenged that I will change you. And notice I have bought change to this blog.

    Now nobody talks of open servility to Sonia G and Rahul G ever since I got the term “nauker” in.

    Even you desist and now put your praise of the royal blood in a round about way by attacking BJP.

    Manohar ji is in a process of catharisis. I assure him and you that I will change both of you. :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Again you started pumping the cycle tyre…. !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Like chaachaa, like bhatijaa.

    Ek mushqil hai waise – dono cycle ke tyre mein bahoot baDe ‘puncture’ hai.
    ;-)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Does he need an IED from Chacha to fix the puncture ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Totally offtrack and not funny.Only your naukar will applaud on this.

    Come on…you can do better :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    IED that has laughing gas as one of the components

    Isn’t it funny?.

    Ha, ha, ha (*)

    * – Look I have already ‘changed’ (one year ki to aisi ki taisi). I am laughing at my own postings and comments already.

    Anonymous Reply:

    gud . Now you know that beign a naukar is a bad role model.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ha, ha, ha.

    Ha, ha, ha

    I am laughing at my own laughter.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon manohar

    Does naukri meaning sitting like a parrot o the shoulder of the master?

    But be assured I will change your servile mindset in one year…

    Anonymous Reply:

    If nobody talked about Sonia or Rahul, they also did not talk about Advani, Sushma, Vajpayee, Gadkari too…

    You have started living in a delulsory world !

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Going by the past record, you can ever barely add to my discomfiture”.

    Also ever barely add anything remotely meaningful or intelligent to the discussion. Full stop.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @Mohan

    You are always welcome – to disagree.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Applause.

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  • Anonymous

    Intellectual deficiency!

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  • Anonymous

    Good, bad and ugly.

    Good : You wife is not talking to you.
    Bad : She wants divorce
    Ugly : She is a lawyer.
    —-

    Good : Your son is finally maturing
    Bad : He is involved the with the woman next door
    Ugly : You are also involved with the same woman

    Good: You start telling your children about sex as they are maturing
    Bad : They keep interrupting
    Ugly : With corrections.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Serious suggestion. Compile your jokes in a book form with different sections. Would love to see it published. Get business instinct predominate here on a hobby.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks mohan

    This is real thought provoking humour !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Have you ever thought of becoming a stand-up comedian?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I don’t think there is much money to be earned in this line of business.

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————
    ~~~ the worst job… in India… TO BE DEREK OBRIEN ~~~
    ———————————————————————————————————

    Kya lies bolta hai salam just to defend Mamta’s hounding all critics.

    I think you need to be a real worm to say all this with a straight face…

    I think in Pashcim Banga this blog and its writers would be behind bars being hounded by a mob of TMC/

    Very poor show by mamta. I think her government will collapse. SOme rightists or Even Congress should grab her space. Otherwise another 34 years of CPM would push Bengal to 1946 and not 2046

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  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    Democracy and disruptives.
    Abu Quatada has been arrested by UK Police. Quatada, who is fighting his deportation to Jordan has given speeches earlier that converts from Islam, Americans and others are wazib-ul-quatal and liable for terrorist attacks. Human right commission is resisting his deportation. So many disruptives here practiing same democracy, indulge in terror and then hide behind democracy, human rights and anti fascism. Rule of law should be supreme, nothing more, nothing less.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    On 17 January 2012, the European Court of Human Rights ruled that Qatada could not be deported to Jordan as that would be a violation of his right to a fair trial under Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights. This was the first time the court has ruled that such an expulsion would be a violation of Article 6. The Special Immigration Appeals Commission subsequently ruled that Qatada should be bailed on highly prescriptive terms for three months while the British government sought further reassurances from Jordan. Under the UN Convention Against Torture, to which the UK is a signatory, states are obliged to refrain even from complicity in torture, and thus are forbidden from deporting people to places where a real risk of torture exists. “Torture is rife in Jordan”, according to Human Rights Watch, though the prospect of torture did not stop the UK from deporting people to Libya under Colonel Gaddafi.

    Abu Qatada was released on bail on 13 February 2012. He is prohibited from using a mobile phone, computer or the internet, and subject to an electronically monitored 22-hour curfew that only allows him to leave home twice a day for a maximum of one hour.

    On 17 April 2012, the BBC reported that Qatada was arrested at his home in London and told that the Home Office “intends on deporting him”.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    Believe me, I am as much sensitive, may be more than most, about torture of any living being. I am talking about a person, which is inciting people to KIll, KILL and K I L L. I will not suggest pulling off his hair, nails or any such henious thing but if UK can not confine him and make him desist from such activities, then, may be Jordan is the place for him with the hope that they will not give him devil’s treatment, him being a fellow countryman and coreligionist.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    There is a dilemma faced by civilised societies. How to handle potential troublemakers? On one hand is the safety and security of the society and on the other hand is the human rights of the potential trouble maker. A person is innocent until proven guilty by a court of law (not kangaroo courts) – that is accepted principle.

    Digressing a bit. Take the case of Ajmal Kasab – he has been subjected to due process of law and proclaimed killer/terrorist, the Supreme Court is yet to give its verdict. This is much to the chagrin of a very large number of our countrymen. If the Bombay police wanted, they would have shot him on the spot when captured. Then our charge against Pakistan would have been just that – a charge without any solid proof.

    Has there been any unlawful.uncivilised societies that have managed to save themselves from potential trouble makers?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    As Ishwar had suggested yesterday, the appeasing policies are have their effect.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    this is a serious issue. It affects us most as we are at the edge of the arc of terror which originates in the hate schools of Pakistan..

    As an unsure UPA rushes forward to extend the hand of friendship, India is bound ot face the repurcussions of the ripple.

    Unfortunately the free world has human rights for the terroirsts. the terrorists have no respect for anyone’s rights.

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  • Anonymous

    ————————————————————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~~ CHANGING MINDSETS—- FOR BETTERMENT and ATTAINING FULL POTENTIAL ~————–
    ————————————————————————————————————————————————-

    There is a popular saying, “that you cant teach an old dog new tricks…”

    What I am going to say out here is the exact opposite. That unlike animals who are instincive, human beings react to situations in terms of instincts +EMOTIONS + VALUE ATTACHMENTS to achieve primal instinctive goals. Must be sounding funny, but this is a project I am working on as a consultant to some psychiatrists. We are probing the mind to achieve simple goals for schizophrenia, ADD, hyper anger, etce etc. Along the lines is also a spinoff on how marketign strategies should be made in advertising. And how…. educational biases can be changed.

    A final spin off would possibly REVERSE BRAINWASHING for terrorists, a worldwide need… and a word which I sometimes use here.

    Well if you take this blog as an open group of 15 people. I have in a covert way introduced change. By adding and revealing the NEGATIVE VALUE ATTATCHMENTS TO VARIOUS POSTURES.

    I should not be revealing all this. But I am just showing Sanjay that How I have changed him. While debating/arguing he dare not talk about open servility to the Gandhi family, becasue fo a fear of being termed a nauker… an acheivment he would give NEGATIVE value to after years if education and work experience.

    The only way he could now mentally reconcile to being a Nauker would be in case he knows that he is getting something in way of position or money, which has higher positive value agains the negative value of being a naukar.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “…I should not be revealing all this. But I am just showing Sanjay that How I have changed him. While debating/arguing he dare not talk about open servility to the Gandhi family, becasue fo a fear of being termed a nauker…..”

    -
    You are going down to a ridiculous level. You have changed me !! If you could, then so many people here would have danced with joy ! It’s just that they can’t see your miracle !!

    When the time comes, I will talk everything and about everybody. I do not talk about anybody without a context.

    Sorry for being harsh…. gandusha matra jalen sarfari farfarayate…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I will not disagree. This revolt agains tmy outline of change is part of process of change.

    frankly I should not have revealed the process.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are obvious like a Red Rose.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay

    No offense. But let this be a brutal answer from you. I can bet my engineerring degree, my work (now somewhat recognised by psychologists), my long sittings in psychoanalysis sessions asa an observer… that there is a higher value value attatchment of profit in your mind linked to a role which reconciles you to the role of being in a position of servility,

    I cannot accept a servile ego posture from a person of education and articulation abilites.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you want a brutal answer from anybody, make your question crystal clear.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay,

    ‘ when the time comes, I will talk everything and about everybody ‘
    Aap to daraa rahe hain. Did you get a hold to any of my secret ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If people discuss about you, is there any reason why I must not discuss about you?

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Sanjay;
    Gandusha…, please explain this to me, sounds interesting. main daroonga to nahin, per haan, curious jaroor ho gaya hun ki Aap kya jaan te hain mere baare main? Wou;ld love to discuss that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It means that a samll fish makes a lot of flapping in water… while the big ones who have everythign move on…

    Okay if sanjay implys I am a small fish…

    Of course I am .

    Anonymous Reply:

    It was not small fish…it was out of depth.

    Your claim that I will fear…..was completely out of depth.

    Anonymous Reply:

    handful…

    forget it…let’s not discuss it further

  • Anonymous

    Got to sign off now..

    Like I said… I always salute both my enemies and friends for making life what it is.

    @ Sanjay

    DOnt take anything to heart. This was a blog excercise. In normal course I would not have gone into this. Anyway you made so many personal comments and I did not react at that level… So get over it and come back roaring tomorrow.

    @ manohar

    We are bound to be at opposite ends. I chase the truth not any party’s posture.

    @ Pankaj, Mohan others et al.

    Havve a cool time… keep blogging

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “…I am just showing Sanjay that How I have changed him. While debating/arguing he dare not talk about open servility to the Gandhi family, becasue fo a fear of being termed a nauker…..”…”

    -

    I am sure you will reflect on this sentence . This kind of stuff does not work with me.

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  • Anonymous

    Sanjay Jha was called CLUNKY by Nirmala Sitharaman in TimesNow debate.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It has come out in the open now!

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  • Pankaj#1

    Vijay and other friends;
    Always play with superior adversary. That will hone your skills. Win against inferior player is illusion, and will lower your standard. I am a competitive player even now. After all this blog is a game of mind. By this time, you must have understood who is who. You are much more educated than me, IIT and all that. Enjoy it. Vijay, you have progressed very well, but even best can be bettered.
    Just completed a book while in plane, Genetics- it is kind of made easy book, New York Times’s publication. You will enjoy it. It will tell you who is related to whom and will clear any fog in the mind of readers. Questions on genetics are welcome. After all, I am related to Sanjay and even Ravi and Engrich in someway. More on next post.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    Who decides who is superior and who is inferior ? Doesn’t every one thinks
    most of the times that he himself is superior ?

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    No, a true player will understand by the end or even mid way through the game that where he or she stands vis a vis adversary. when, I was playing table tennis for fun, I will always seek a better player to play and on the flip side that better player will avoid me, seeking a better player than himself. If you have to choose, there is no illuson, you know instantly.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    Table tennis ? Was the topic really a sports game where winner is easily decided.
    Problem is that one does not wants to give up because he thinks that by giving
    up he will be termed as a loser.
    By the way I liked your line – Still collecting stones, in front of the ocean of knowledge.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Pankaj

    Sometimes it is important to win just to show what is right and correct. But I take your advice in real sportsman spirit and invite you to a Table tennis game… with beer as prize…

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Doesn’t every one thinks most of the times that he himself is superior”?

    No, not everyone. Of course, there more than enough megalomaniacs, self-appointed ‘reformers’, self-righteous types
    etc. We have some examples here too.

    There are all types of people and that’s what makes this planet such a fun place.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks Pankaj

    Will surely take your advice. was planning to taper down my presensce on this blog from today onwards… but as I said company of all… friends and opponents is very addictive.

    So with a phone in hand.. the ther on the keyboard… possibly punching inwrong spellings… I am here… but probably less and less.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are related to Sanjay and Sanjay is related to Abhishek Manu Singhvi!

    what a relation!

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  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    After writing this, I was afraid that I may be sounding preachy, far from it. Still collecting stones, in front of the ocean of knowledge.

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  • Anonymous

    Not just drum-and-trumpet
    B. Surendra Rao

    http://www.thehindu.com/arts/books/article3321494.ece?homepage=true

    History is the knowledge of a retrievable human past. In one sense it is what the historian does, but in another, it is available to the historian and society as a collective of accumulated, debated, dialogued, refuted, amended, renewed knowledge to choose from and build on. Historiography unfolds this rich terrain that has gone under the historian’s plough and the ideas and strategies that have gone into coaxing what is shown as a harvest of truth. Approaches to History puts together 10 critical essays of stock-taking and introspection on various aspects of Indian historical writings. They illumine several themes of interest and relevance which mainstream historiography had loftily overlooked.

    ————

    Read on.

    [Reply]

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manoohar;
    Would have loved to read it, but taking time between making International calls to attend to this blog. Can not read lengthy articles, more interested in your or individual’s perspective.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    This actually is a reviews of book

    APPROACHES TO HISTORY — Essays in Indian Historiography. Edited by Sabyasachi Bhattacharya; Indian Council of Historical Research in association with Primus Books, Virat Bhavan, Mukherjee Nagar, Commercial Complex, Delhi-110009.
    Price: Rs 1095

    ——-
    An informative and analytical anthology that shows how rich Indian historiography has been

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    ‘ An informative and analytical anthology that shows how rich Indian histroiriography
    has been’ I have many times noticed that this also creates problem, because instead of
    feeling proud of our past many of us feel superior to others which causes rifts.
    One should know where to draw a line between swabhimaan and abhiman.

    Well I am sounding preachy now. Is this the effect of last night’s party I attended where
    no drinks were served.?

    Anonymous Reply:

    No, you are not sounding preachy, just expressing your opinion.

    You have already read my response re: feeling superior below.

    How tragic – No daaru. My commiserations.

  • Anonymous

    Singhvi taken off Cong duty roster, ex-driver takes CD blame

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/singhvi-taken-off-cong-duty-roster-exdriver-takes-cd-blame/938118/0

    Even as the Congress decided to take spokesman Abhishek Manu Singhvi off the party office’s duty roster for the time being in view of the CD controversy, his former driver claimed that he was the one who had distributed a “distorted” video to take revenge on Singhvi.

    The party’s decision came after Singhvi — who heads the Standing Committee on Law and Justice — secured an injunction against the broadcast of a CD that allegedly contains material which he called defamatory and fabricated.

    ————-

    Read on

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Only if Mr. Singhvi had paid his driver before the act, this news would never have
    surfaced.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right.

    ————-

    It doesn’t matter what you do in the bedroom as long as you don’t do it in the street and frighten the horses.
    – Mrs. Patrick Campbell (Beatrice Stella Tanner).
    was a British stage actress (1865-1940).

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    I think Abhishek Singhvi is stingy. He promises a lot but delivers little.

    When Nithyananda’s sex CD was released, it was aired continously and there was a public uproar. The Congress spokesman was Fxxking a lawywer promising to make her judge… however, the media has not made it news…. PAID NEWS OF INDIA SUCKS.

    People are complaining that when they showed the BJP MLAs watching porn, the media titillated them by merely hinting what was being viewed.

    Here the CD is said to be having the real thing. Now media is acting coy and is all conscience and ethics etc.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Getting the right judgements becomes so easy !

  • Anonymous

    Gehlot for phone-tapping, Modi wants to mine Sir Creek: CM ideas lost in the din

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/gehlot-for-phonetapping-modi-wants-to-mine-sir-creek-cm-ideas-lost-in-the-din/938116/0

    Naveen Patnaik argued for a resource tax on mining companies, Ashok Gehlot wanted the power to tap phones in other states, and Narendra Modi urged the Centre to exploit the hydrocarbon reserves in the Sir Creek area. The suggestions offered by chief ministers at Monday’s meeting on internal security were varied and innovative but most got lost in the noise around the debate on federalism.

    Non-Congress CMs had the most suggestions, with the notable exception of Rajasthan CM Ashok Gehlot who came up with some of the most controversial ones.

    Consider:

    Naveen Patnaik, Orissa

    1. A “mineral resource rent tax” on private mining companies “to be charged at 50 per cent of the surplus rent”.

    2. At least one public sector bank branch in each of the blocks in the scheduled tribal-dominated areas.

    Mamata Banerjee, West Bengal

    1. Increase in the quantity of rice to BPL families in Naxal areas.

    2. Machines to detect fake currency near border, Naxal-hit areas.

    Nitish Kumar, Bihar

    1. Training in “humane behaviour” for the Sashastra Seema Bal at the India-Nepal border.

    2. Zero tolerance towards corruption as government policy.

    Ashok Gehlot, Rajasthan

    1. Powers to intercept telephones in other states be vested in the home secretaries.

    2. Mobile phone service providers be mandated to make available call records of the last five years instead of one.

    3. Security agencies be allowed to access databases of banks, passport office, railways and aviation companies, and also from NIA and NTRO.

    4. A system at the Centre to monitor objectionable content loaded on websites from servers abroad.

    Raman Singh, Chhattisgarh

    1. A National Security Guards battalion in Chhattisgarh.

    2. Housing for security personnel as priority.

    Narendra Modi, Gujarat

    1. Creation of a dedicated force to exploit the hydrocarbon reserve in Sir Creek area, and tapping of the solar energy potential on the western borders of Rajasthan and Gujarat. This would also help security.

    2. Every sub-inspector from a training college be asked to impart 100 hours of training to constables.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    It is difficult to love mankind unless one has a reasonable private income. And if one has a reasonable private income one has better things to do than love mankind.

    Hugh Kingsmill
    Was a versatile British writer and journalist.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Beautiful.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Why the Congress is looking like Yahya Khan
    ————————————————————–

    As I sign off to enter a dug up basement for a few hours… here is one reason to smile.

    In 1971, as AAK Niazi was in a process of signing the surrender, my favourite historical joker, CMLA Yahhya khan,, who had fifty diesgnations to make himself feel powerful, was fully convinced thaat his army was about to occupy the Rashtrapati Bhavan and capture Delhi.

    O My God… with every stunning loss… the COngress spin doctors are coming up with newer stories on who they are actually winning !!

    Gr8 !

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Yahya Khan was frolicking with Noor Jehan when his army was sigining the surrender document.

    Was Abhishek Singhvi too in the same ‘mood’?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Maybe

    Insiders would know…

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————
    ~~~ WHY TERRORISTS WILL ENTER THRU EASY VISAS TO PAKIS ~~~
    —————————————————————————————————————

    This is serious business. I am not here to score brownie points on this one, though I can very easily.

    Rehman malik has warned that Taliban is about to enter India in a big way to create huge problems here. Murderers from FATA will be coming to murder here, wearing the aman ki aashsha logo and flag. While a few Indians will keep crying BJP and Modi.

    This is through the legitimate route of religious tourism with vaid visas.

    I think bloggers should highlight this in their postings. I sinverely beleive blogging does add up to some action some where.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Cut excise or we hike petrol price by Rs 10/L, says IOC

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Cut-excise-or-we-hike-petrol-price-by-Rs-10/L-says-IOC/articleshow/12709059.cms

    Taking a cue from the RBI governor D Subbarao, market leader Indian Oil Corporation indulged in grand standing on Tuesday by saying state-run retailers would raise petrol price by almost Rs 10 per litre, if the government did not reduce excise duty or did not compensate their Rs 49-crore daily loss on the fuel.

    “We have been very patient, not raising prices since December despite our cost of production spiraling. But there is a limit to which we can borrow money and produce fuel for the country,” said chairman R S Butola.

    ———

    Read on.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Pak min warns of Taliban push into India, offers help

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/Pakistan/Pak-min-warns-of-Taliban-push-into-India-offers-help/Article1-842228.aspx

    Pakistan interior minister Rehman Malik on Tuesday cautioned India that it should watch out for a surge in extremist activities amid fresh intelligence that the Taliban could be planning to enter the country.

    “I can see more extremism (taking place) in India. I have asked our high
    commissioner in Delhi to call on the Indian defence minister soon and share our inputs,” Malik said.

    —————

    Is this for real? How should India treat this development – sharing intelligence info re: Taliban and terrorists.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Does the media carry out its due dilligence with due dilligence before it does stories on CDs / exposes etc. There have been cases , or rather a case , where it was loudly claimed that due diligence had been done on whether the CD was genuine or not , but that due dilligence was found to be not diligent enough. So have the India Today / Headlines Today carried out their due diligence on the Abhishek Singhvi CD ? Would they contest the case before the Delhi High Court and assert their Right to publish the contents as the people have a Right to know about the personal conduct of people who are in public life. ? Does Markandey Katju have a view on this Restraint Order ? Or does he find this issue inconvenient and shall prefer to look the other way ? Would the Congress Party use its might to sweep this issue under the carpet ? …. Time will give the answers to these questions.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Praveen

    Everything has been fixed now. the driver has been probably purchased. Typical Congress spin has been created that the driver realised his mistake and had created this warped CD with the help of a studio and then asked for “vast” sums of money as he was a bitter man for getting low salary!!

    Very nice.

    Big questions

    a) Why has Abhishek Manu Singhvi been jettisoned by the COngress then. (As per Indian express). if he was so wronged, he could have got the driver into jail, being a huge lawyer, is’nt it?

    b) Why did Healdines Today, India Today and Aaj Tak get into it, if the CD was so obviously fake? They would have surely verified everything before taking this risk. Remember they were careful enough not to touch the Amar SIngh CD as they were tech smart enough to see it was fake.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Mahesh,

    Read that article on Amazon. Surprised to read that 40% of the books sold
    online are through Amazon and this may reach 60% in next 5 years.
    First time heard of this word monopsony. Even vendors are left with no choice
    but to sell their products to Amazon.
    Does this not mean that big retailers with their money power will corner
    the whole market? Ultimately consumers and vendors both will be at the mercy of these big retailers.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    He lives in the thick of a forest, created by him. Man Made forest.

    http://www.theweekendleader.com/Nature/248/Green-Dreams.html

    One more feather in the cap of Kerala.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Vijay
    This case shall become interesting if India Today decides to contest. Also I believe Singhvi has filed a police complaint , if is so this will be another investigation to watch. Because even I belive that if India Today were to do a story they would have done a proper due diligence.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Praveen

    Normal course India today wont contest. Ads, ad campaigns for elections, goodies from the govt… a lot of lalach is being thrown by UPA and trolls.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Agree with you. Most of the media is not reporting this news. I have
    not heard any opposition leader also speaking about this.
    This case in all probability will die very soon.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    My scare is in case such CD’s land in the hands of 2G scamsters and Defence Congractors who are known to create honey traps.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    I don’t think any such thing will happen. You can only
    blackmail a person of his misdeeds if those are not
    known to the public.

    Anonymous Reply:

    MOhan

    If you dont write the joke book… I will pick up all the lines from this blog and and write it on your behalf !

    Really gr8 one !

    I had a pretty bad experience in the morning with SP workers… jostling/manhandling me for forced donation at a client’s factory in the morning. Your remark has boght the zing back into me !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Don’t forget to pay me royalty.
    Few pegs of Chivas will do .

    Anonymous Reply:

    Definately ! Pegs to all on the blog… friends… opponents… everyone! Cheerssssssss !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan
    There is a Restraint Order passed by the Delhi High Court prohibiting the lecast of or publishing the contents of the CD against India Today Group. The petition for such a Relief was filed by Singhvi. In these circumstances , no media shall report. The Opposition also shall not take up his issue as it rel;ates to an individual and till something comes out in public and which is prima facie tenable.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    Thanks. Understood why no one is talking about this.

    Anonymous Reply:

    We know there is “paid news”.

    Now we will have “paid media silence”

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are at your brilliant best – yet again.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Whether media talks or they keep quiet, thy get paid. They are in very good business.

    Anonymous Reply:

    However the positive part is that a new job has been created. As COngressmen are getting unemployed , losing elections after elections, I am sure jobs is a priority

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Delhi’s hangers-on market is set for a nose dive.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    @ MOhan

    Since you got my zing back, here is one for you from my joke factory

    Maybe the concerned gentleman was looking for an alternative film career… inspired by sunny !

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    He should approach Mahesh Bhatt who now produces these kind of movies.
    He will have no problem getting a role.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Shiela Dikshit wants that the blame for the defeat of the Congress in Delhi should be shared by all in the Party. Does that include the self-styled “Brahmin” General Secy. ? But has he indicated which Brahmin does he want to be ? A Kanyakubj, or Saryupari or Gaur -Saraswat , or Iyengar , or Chitpavan or Palghat Brahmin ?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    A Chirstain-Muslim Brahmin.

    A new category of Brahmin will be created for our Yuvraj.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    There has to be a third mysterious abgle to the CD thing whihc is not being talked about.

    Is it some sort of fravour, some appointment, some x factor that Aaj Tak and India Today sensed a big story…?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    last night, Sanjay was very acerbic in his replies and very caustic in his choice of words. While his efforts at comedy fell flat on their faces (as always) there was the faithful side-kick who is also the official congressi troll on deputation to Sanjay’s blog, clapping furiously, as if he would lose the honorary title of the troll if didn, ‘t clap.

    But we must be kind to him, particularly when he is hit by twin tragedies, the BJP winning Delhi handsomely and the world famous lawyer and chief of congress media bureau, being caught in a sex CD, promising a woman lawyer the heavens, if she shows him the ultimate heaven.

    Added to that, Rajeev reports that Sanjay was called the clunky chacha by the BJP spokesperson!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am trying to trace out what these heavens are. Google has started blacking out nes on the subject. Yahoo is still uncensored till now

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Google is the latest to ralise that a worthy adversary can be fought in a court of law, an evl adversary has to be feared.

  • Anonymous

    A good development…

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/MCD-polls-Muslims-refuse-to-take-Congress-bait/articleshow/12710207.cms

    “People here are angry with Congress. They refused to vote for the party as they are upset with the soaring prices and corruption,” said RLD’s Aaley Mohammed. Mohammad (21) is the youngest candidate to have been elected as a councillor.

    “Muslims have learnt to vote for the candidate who works for us and not for the party that takes our votes for granted,” said Mohd Suhail, a resident of Qasabpura.

    During its campaign in Muslim-dominated areas, Congress had tried its best to woo voters by playing the community card. While chief minister Sheila Dikshit at her public meetings slammed Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi, Delhi Pradesh Congress Committee chief JP Aggarwal had made a public appeal to Muslims to vote in a consolidated manner.
    ———-

    Not only Muslims, a few more sections of the society are showing its back to the grand old party. Even the Congressis are admitting that the BJP didn’t do well during its last term in the MCD but still managed to sail through because people voted on the issue of price rise and corruption and not on local issues. Does it augur well for the party in the upcoming assembly/general elections?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    BJP should not count on a “vote against” strategy..They have to be a “vote for” party. Country is ready for a clear alternative, not a dressed up (or down) version of GOP

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right Gopi.

    Th next logical step is to highlight the good work done by different state govts. ruled by the NDA vis a vis the UPA. There has been a considerable improvement in the law and order, state of roads and girl education in Bihar under Nitish in Bihar, Chhatisgarh govt. is running the PDS most successfully in the country, Gujrat villages are getting 24X7 electricity etc.

    Let the chief ministers of these states campaign more aggressively at least in their respective neighbouring states so that people learn about all this more and make an informed choice for themselves.

    2014 is a big opportunity for the NDA.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, the CMs should be used either across the country or in neighbouring states, extending the brand. Rajasthan has to be brought back in the column, especially with Gujrat as its neighbour. Have to have young inspiring people leading local/regional activities.

    I believe Akhilesh/SP win in UP has a lot to do with people’s perception of Akhilesh more than any other political alliance/Mayawti’s misrule etc. Every parent in mid 40s on will want a son like that – humble, cheerful, accommodative, helping..-

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    DID BJP SLEEP WALK TO VICTORY?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, this time it almost did. The party campaigned primarily on the issue of corruption and price rise – which hasn’t got much to do with the municipal body.

    Let’s hope that the trend continues. Organisationally, they are strong in the city and hence people voted for them against the Congress/UPA as a better alternative to them.

    If the primary job of the MCD is to ensure that the city is clean, street lights work, colony roads are sans pot-holes, the gardens are well-maintained, no illegal building/extension comes up, the hospitals are hygeinic etc. then I can’t see how it performed so well on these issues to be returned back to power!!

    I live in Delhi.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pretty nice analysis Ishwar. I live in Delhi… fell the same…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Delhi municipal election and CM of Delhi to garner votes criticizes CM of Gujarat.

    Amazing. When will these people learn?

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  • Anonymous

    Google has removed most of the news on the CD. Yahoo still has about 3000 pages. DOnt be too surprised that they are snipped by 2 moro

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Mohan

    Interesting info on Kareem’s man-made forest.

    Have you heard about Silent Valley? It is the result of a determined poetess, Shrimathi Sugatha Kumari, and a committed group of people fighting the politicians, bureaucrats to save/build a forest preserve. Leftists wanted to level off and were against creating/preserving the forest, Shrimathi Indira Gandhi, once she met the poet and understood the issues, was for the forest, and she was quite helpful.
    Sugatha Kumari also led the Krishnavanam forestation …

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Thanks for this info.

    There are many people in our country who work selflessly in the interest of our
    nation. I have very high regards for these people.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Brilliant remark by Shenoy

    We know there is “paid news”.

    Now we will have “paid media silence”

    Remark of the month for me!

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Gopi

    Dont be too kind to Akhilesh as he has to be put to test. His goons are running amuck. Today morning I was at a factory construction in Noida as a a consultant. The owner was not around.

    Around ten workers were there at site.

    Suddenly three car loads of people arrived. They were toughies how could and probably also worked as bouncers in pubs and hotels.

    “Some people in the village are sick… we want a donation, ” They surrounded me and put forward a card which showed that others in the area too had paid, 60 to 70000.

    “I am just a consultant from Delhi, ” I said trying to be cool, “designing this factory so that people get employment.”

    They pushed me to a waiting Versa.

    “Pradhanji ki insult kar rahe ho, ” One of them sneered, “He will help you out in case of strike… he will help you in case there is a gunfight… we are party workers who are also social workers”

    These were indirect threats.

    Inside the car a smiling so called pradhan was sitting with a rifle.

    I called the owner of the construction site, who told me to pay up on his behalf. Problem was I just had 9,000 in the pocket.

    “You have an ATM card,” one of them pulled me by the collar, ” Another one of them pushed me hard.

    I still kept smiling. “ATM is two miles away…”

    “We will come again….” They sneered and took the 9000.

    “Once you give us the money… you will be protected and we will give you our card that nobody else will come for one year…” The Pradhan said loudly, trying to comfort me.

    They left after that.
    ——————————————————————————

    Gopi this is the state of things on the ground which Akhilesh needs to see in the party.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    viju

    That is unbelievable.

    Apart from the goondagiri, the fact that it happened so close to Delhi, the ancient imperial capital and the new democratic capital, speaks volumes about how “far” we have come!

    On the goondagiri, let us hope Akhilesh govt will fix it in time.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji/Vijay,

    This happens at other places too. I have a showroom at Bhiwandi just at the
    outskirts of Bombay. I have to pay something regulary to local goondas.
    Thankfully their demands are small.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Though I did feel strange in the morning on seeing the rifle… I tried to handle this with a smile, knowing that things can go wrong. After coming back to office I was feeling sad that in India for every step forward we take one back.

    HOWEVER UR JOKE GOT THE ZING BACK TO MY MOOD !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx Gopi

    I feel bad that UP should take this road. NOIDA is thriving becasue of proximity to Delhi, great planning and good gentry.

    However the politcal parties have created their own goons for collection.

    In sharp contrast, despite her statue megalomania and corruption, Mayawati did not have these ruffians set lose.

    I hope Akhilesh is really tuned onto the UP street where things need a strong hand.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,
    This is culture of UP…Everybody is a Dabangg when his/her party is in power.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Pak SC allows 3 Hindu women to decide their own future

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/Pakistan/Pak-SC-allows-3-Hindu-women-to-decide-their-own-future/Article1-842456.aspx

    Three Hindu women, who were allegedly forced to convert to Islam and marry Muslims, were today allowed by Pakistan’s Supreme Court to decide their own future and where they want to live. A three-judge bench headed by Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry asked Rinkle Kumari alias Faryal Bibi, Lata Kumari alias Hafsa Bibi and Asha Kumari alias Haleema Bibi to inform the court registrar’s office whether they want to live with their husbands or their families.

    The bench ordered police to provide complete security to the women and warned that police officials would be held responsible for negligence if they were harmed.

    =========

    Read on.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    India to test fire Agni-5, missile that can target China

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/India-to-test-fire-Agni-5-missile-that-can-target-China/Article1-842277.aspx

    India will join the elite club of nations having Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles (ICBM) with the test launch of its 5,000 km-range Agni-5 missile planned on Wednesday. Successful test-firing of the Agni-5 will catapult India to a hyper-exclusive club that now counts only the United States, Russia and China as members. It will be a huge strategic leap and give India capability to target all of Asia, including the northernmost parts of China and large parts of Europe as well.

    The three stage solid-fuelled 50-tonne missile will be launched off Wheeler Island in Odisha and is expected to reach its target area in southern Indian Ocean.

    ===========

    Read on.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Let us hope the test will be successful.

    In addition to the Indian pride, I have three more reasons to be proud – that the leader of the project is a fellow Malayali Christian woman.. Shrimathi Tessy Thomas, dubbed “Agni puthri” (daughter of fire) in the local news media, has been directing the Indian missile program for many years; she is directing the Agni V project.

    Hopefully she will become a role model for many of our girls (and boys) to pursue a career in science

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Agni Putri. Great title. All the woman and man of course of India should be her.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Her fame has sky rocketed.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    As per NDTV:

    The high-profile launch of India’s first Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile (ICBM), Agni-V, has been postponed. Authorities say the launch was postponed due to bad weather.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    A Sindhi calls newspaper agency to print death of his grand father.

    Clerk ‘ Rs. 50 per word’
    Sindhi ‘ dada dead ‘
    Clerk sorry, minimum 5 words,
    Sindhi ‘ dada dead wheelchair for sale ‘

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gud one.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I had asked you the name of your joke factory. I repeat my request.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Thought of the evening:
    ———————————

    After a nasty experience I realised that India needs two or three national level parties. But currently both of them are out to annihilate each other, leaving the floor space to regional and caste/ communal parties.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Woman ‘molested’ for refusing to join Trinamool Congress

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata-/Woman-molested-for-refusing-to-join-Trinamool-Congress/articleshow/12718244.cms

    Another blot on Mamta Di.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The media has got a new “bakra” in didi now.

    Mr. Modi can live in peace for a while and enjoy till it lasts.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Don’t count on that. The moment somebody sneezes in Gujarat,
    Modi will be blamed, and if by any chance that person happens to be a Muslim then god forbid all hell will break loose.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    You apprehension has been proved right. Look at the top post. ;-)

    Anonymous Reply:

    You got that right. Mamata defied Congress and Sonia. Now paid media is making her pay for it.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev,

    We saw same things happening just before UP elections,
    almost daily we used to get similar types of new from UP
    blaming Mayawati.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    Absolutely correct. Media provided almost 100% positive coverage to Rahul and his congress and 100% negative coverage to Mayawati…rest were simply ignored.

    Anonymous Reply:

    At this rate, she will not last out 5 years of tenure. It would be much sooner. There is a possibility of a revolt among the TMC MPs soon.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Manu Singhi CD case : One of the best comment I read.

    BJP can only watch, while Congress can act.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    when BJP watched,
    the media witch-hunted.

    when congress acted,
    media reacts with silence!

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    One more.

    Singhvi stripped of all party positions. Only position for him now is missionary .

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Missionary position..looks like he is joining Our lady of 10 Janpath church.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    because he stripped a woman lawyer?

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Manohar,

    Earlier you had provided a link to the news where Pakistan SC gave three Hindu
    women to decide their future. Here is follow up to that story.

    Want to Live With Husbands: ‘Converted’ Pak Women

    http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=760103

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The silver lining is that it has been left to the women to decide for themselves to decide what they wished to do with their lives. These cases may be a matter of love-marriages plus a matter of conversion, hence the parents may have taken offence.

    We also cannot rule out the possibility that they may have taken the decision under duress, I do not know and perhaps we will never know.

    The important thing is that the decision was left to the women concerned.

    BTW: Don’t we see similar cases happening here, when the parents with the help of the ’self appointed’ thekedaars of our culture and religion to poke their noses in a matter which is purely personal and concerns adults? Here too, the courts and in many the cases, the police (generally of some other state) leave to the individuals to decide their future telling others parents/thekedaars to lay off.

    It is all a matter of intolerance and attempt to restrict individual liberty.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Once the women have sex, it is difficult for them to return as the cultures of the sub continent would label them “dishonoured.”

    If you see the link Rajeev posted some time back, the whole thing is a communal charade. A group a procession simply captures a girl from th oppressed religion. It is a battle of the womb.

    The oppressed religion has one womb less. The opressor has one womb more to produce babies.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    I had read that article and that is what is happening in Pakistan.
    Even the intervention by SC did not have any effect. Girls
    ‘decided’ to stay with their husbands.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you read the article… Police accompanied the girls who kept their faces hidden in Burka. That is pakistan… one is not even sure they would have got the right girls to court. :)

    furtheron… with so much public and pressure of their “forced” husbands a teenager would just crumble.

    The right statistc to probe would be

    The ratio of Muslim boys married to HIndu girls in comparison to Hindu boys married to Muslim girls.

    if it 100 to 1 , I wont be surprised.

    Rest of tales justifying this as love marriages is dil ko behelane ko jhayal achcha hai..

  • Anonymous

    Rajeev’s harmless post got deleted. Was it because he mentioned our
    Brahmin Yuvraj Rahul Gandhi?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    This just shows how clunky is other side…Cheat and claim victory is typical congressi mindset.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    That is Sanjay’s way of creating a level playing field.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    When my comments are deleted, I get the confirmation from other side that I have won the argument.

  • Anonymous

    If government jobs are given by way of sexual favours… is it not Yaun uthpeedan?

    If government jobs are given on consideration of sex… is i not exploitation of women?

    If goernment jobs are given by patronage… will not the patron demand favours in return from the person given the position in terms of decisions?

    very good questions which we need to ask ourselves.

    This was probably the thrust of the AAj tak probe…

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  • Anonymous

    Ishwar not so fast.
    ————————

    Gujarat HC quashes sedition cases against TOI Ahmedabad

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Gujarat-HC-quashes-sedition-cases-against-TOI-Ahmedabad/articleshow/12718428.cms

    Excerpt

    The cases had been filed after a series of investigative reports had exposed Mathur’s dubious background and questioned if Ahmedabad was safe in his hands as police commissioner. The TOI had said that the Narendra Modi government, particularly the then Minister of State (MoS) for home Amit Shah, rewarded Mathur for botching up the Sohrabuddin fake encounter probe.

    A little more than a month later, terrorists had killed 57 people in the city by triggering serial bomb blasts on July 26, 2008.

    Post-retirement, the state government has again rewarded Mathur by appointing him as director general of Raksha Shakti University. Shah was arrested by the CBI in the Sohrabuddin case and has been restrained from entering Gujarat.

    ———-

    Sedition! Huh!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rs 25L fine on Gujarat govt for intercepting ‘beef’ containers

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Rs-25L-fine-on-Gujarat-govt-for-intercepting-beef-containers/articleshow/12711462.cms

    The Supreme Court has slapped a penalty of Rs 25 lakh on the Gujarat government for intercepting meat containers on NH 8 and registering complaints against the exporters for violating the Gujarat Animal Preservation (Amendment) Act 2011, which prevents transportation of cow.

    The exporters have, in a petition, told SC the meat was being transported from north India to a Mumbai port. In one such case, a division bench of Justices Altamas Kabir and Surinder Singh Nijjar pulled up the Gujarat government on Monday and imposed a huge fine for illegally intercepting the export consignments.

    ———

    Modi, Modi, ………………….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It looks like SC is at fault here. Wasnt Gujrat enforcing its law or do we have something in the law books barring interstate transportation from state’s purview

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Is Gujarat not part of India that it is hindering legitimate trade and transhipment of goods?

    I am not surprised that you are finding fault with the Supreme Court (’cause it faults Modi’s Gujarat) and also fault anyone else too.

    Mind you Supreme Court is not at the service of Gujarat or Modi alone, upholding its laws and acts alone. There is a larger entities called India and Indians.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    The supreme court has accepted Gujarat’s (Modi’s, in fact) contention that every state in India carries out encounter killings regularly, while only Gujarat gets vilified and demoniosed. Gujarat has provided statistics to the effect that encounter killings in the state are the minimum for India.

    Accepting the arguments, the SC has pordered the centre to come up with the status for the whole of India.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Terrible news from Gujarat. There is no possibility that such thing
    will ever happen in any part of India. It is Modi’s fault and he should be severely punished for this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I know… its modi evrywhere. You look up at the sky if there is a thunderstorm, it is modi I am sure …

    if a mosquito bites Teesta in the bum… Modi must have bred them…

    Ho Hum !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Gujarat HC gave verdict against Modi. Surprising, I was always under the
    impression that Gujarat courts are biased towards Modi.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yeh aapki galat fehmi thi aur hai.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Where were all these girls when I was of the right age?
    ——

    A young boy to his girl friend : Let us go to some remote peace full place
    Girl: Will you do something Naughty?
    Boy : No, darling
    Girl : Then leave it, I am not interested.
    ——-

    Another boy to his girl friend : Tum to meri chand ho ..
    Girl : Aur tum ho mere Neil Armstrong
    Boy : Neil Armstrong ?
    Girl : is chand pe chadhne wala pehla aadmi.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    “is chand pe chadhne wala pehla aadmi.”

    Bahut Khoob…Was Rajiv Gandhi Neil Armstrong for Sonia? Point to ponder…

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    A special ode for Congress tonight .

    Quoting Lord Chesterfield on sex

    ” The pleasure is momentary… the position ridiculous…. the expense damnable ! “

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Any ridiculous position is acceptable for the momentary pleasure. Who cares
    about the expenses, there is lot of money available in India to be looted.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I know… 1,7600000000000

    [Reply]

  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    particularly my friends on this blog. Wanted to read all the post but can not do. So, restricted to my posts and reactions of my friends. It is obvious that they did not like my post regarding playing. I will suggest that you read it again and decipher, what I am trying to say, then feel bad. Obviously, we are not on the same page.
    Vijay, You understood me totally wrong. You should read between the words, reading between the lines is passe. I have given enough hints here, who sanjay is. he is a professional writer, you know what? His style, flair, contents clearly direct to his profession apart from a plethora of other indications. When I said to play with better player, I was trying to say, that imbibe his style, the way he obfuscate issues, the way, he can not discuss certain people on this blog etc. For good debate, learn these skills. Few posts back, I had already termed him as a professional and attributes of a professional. His never say die attitude, though badly beaten on Army General Issue, he did continue to defend Government. So, nothing can be more obvious, I was trying to say that to enjoy his dilemma of compulsion of defending undefendable. Was listening this morning, Gulam Ali.. Main teri mast nigahi ka bharam rakh loonga, Hosh aaya bhi to kah doonga mujhe hosh nahin.
    Shenoy sahab- You also did not take the hint about relationship, was expecting that may be you will take.
    Mohan- Table tennis and topic, very dissimilar and very similar at the same time. I was suggesting Vijay to learn debating skills from him not his ideology.
    Friends, it seems, long absence from India has changed my attitude, style and now, I enjoy some different confrontation- jis main, Cheeeen bulwane ki jaroorat nahin padti, and every one understands that. Keep the blogging going. Good luck.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    I did understand what you wanted to convey this morning, but I wanted to
    take the discussion to a different level. Any way some other time.

    On Sanjay, I once complimented him by telling him that he should be a
    politician because he knows how to avoid inconvenient questions.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Let me add my two bits

    “because he knows how to avoid inconvenient questions”.

    There are others hre who take the easy way out – obfuscate or simply scoot.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes Yes!! They are unwillign to answer why a national jewel like the Indian national congress has become an army of domestic servants and naukers of the family.

    They are unable to answer why they need to shout Modi Modi every tiime they are caguth with their pants down and cheating and looting.

    They are unable to answer why Chotta baba , the PM in waiting of the INC thinks LeT is not a threat and why his mentor beleives that it was not LeT , but RSS which did 26/11 ki saazish.

    Yes we must ask these trolls all this and tthen expect them to shout rape again..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,
    Congress is NO MORE a national jewel but National Disease.
    In an ideal situation, Congress should be basically desolved and splinter groups emerge out of it joining other parties.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well Rajeev

    It is truely a sycophanitc nauker to dynasty organisation right now…

    but I would not want it to dissolve. After all this was the organisation of Sadar patel, Gandhi,
    even nehru. And of course many ordinary indians who fought for freedom and became members.

    We basically need to recue it from trolls, the corrupt, the naukers of dynasty, the sycophants.

    I think we need a clean congress bereft of sycophants and family rule. Becasue we need national parties…

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Rajeev

    I beleive we need national parties which are democratic. Regional parties are small minded and at times communal.

    I had a bit of a rough up with SP goons in Noida next to Ghaziabad today. I feel that national parties would be accountable. These regional parites… they are not the solution.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx Pankaj

    But actually I dont defend lies or obfuscate !! That is my problem.

    My focus in life is clear. Congress has to be rescued from its present state where naukers and sycophants have taken over obfuscating corroption and dynastic monoplies.

    I think that is the only stance I fight for. I deliberately dont put it in complicated language because all my life I have read technical books written in complex language … sometimes as complex as kamasutra positions :)

    I of course admire Sanjay that he does defend the indefensible which I probably would not. Still there have been duels before… and would be duels later. None of us should take anything personally.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,
    You are on dot about Sanjay. This guy is a professional blogger (HamaraCongress). I initially thought he was Vinod’s proxy but when I read his arguments closely, I was sure of his true identity.

    He is basically a propagandist and a very insignificant one.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    you are very very close to the truth. Only, you have left it unstated.
    Let me “clarify” the issue.

    The beginning of 2011 was great for the blog, with all kind of men and women participating in the proceedings. VINODJI WAS AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT TOO, replying to almost every blogger, sharing jokes and also gaalis.

    Then came the turning point: the appearance of Prabhat. With him doing the job, Vinodji took leave of the blog, except once a week, while posting the essay.

    When people found acute “shortcomings” in the way Prabhat’s unbridled , no-holds-barred rsponses to some of the bloggers, he was “removed” silently and totally and Pahlad was let loose on the blog.

    When Prahlad, with his “Sir”s and “Tehelka is the best in the media” kind of rsponses, too failed to perform the desired duties, he too was abruptly and unceremoniously discarded and now we have the Mach-III model.

    What has gone wrong with this Mach-III model?
    Well, he wins every argument by censoring replies which are fitting, witty, humorous, or which nail his blatant “family worshipping” posts.

    THEREFORE, I THINK THE TIME HAS COME FOR VINODJI TO CALL HIS OWN BLUFF AND LEAVE THE BLOG TO PERFORM NORMALLY, WITHOUT SILLY PROPS LIKE SANJAY.

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  • Anonymous

    More news about Modi

    ————-

    Keshubhai plays community card

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Keshubhai-plays-community-card/articleshow/12711184.cms

    Excerpt

    Barely two days after empty chairs greeted chief minister Narendra Modi at a function organized by a group of Leuva Patels in Surat, Keshubhai gave a clarion call to his community that it is high time to show detractors that “might is right”, that too addressing a nearly 60,000-strong crowd.

    ———-

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar-

    Any insight into this? Is the ex-CM a sour grape or are there major issues?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The ex-cm belongs to Yeddy’s category, though not caste.

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  • Anonymous

    Obsession of certain gentlemen here with Modi.

    I request them to link the following with Narendra Modi and win a lollipop for the dunces of the year

    a) Agni test firing delayed. Modi must be behind it. he sneezed. Engrich and manohar have concluded that the skies became clouded

    b) Abhshek Manu Singhvi drops his guard. All beasue the woman lawyer saw a plate of Momos and said Momo de do . Manu Singhvi busy in his files just heard Mo-di… got excited… and rest his his-story !

    c) COngress lost MCD elections. Obviously all the Delhi COngressis were busy shouting Modi Modi rape rape… they forgot to work in their consitituencies and lost !!

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ WOW !! PAKISTAN GOVERNMENT WILL PROVIDE HAFEEZ SAEED SECURITY !!! ~~~~
    ————————————-

    Two days back, on this very blog, manohar, Mahesh and Ravi were giggling like girls and trying to potray me as a hardliner, BJP guy who was giving a bad name to the innocent state of Pakistan.

    Well as I watch TV right now, news is coming in that the Lahore high court has directed the Paksitani government to provide “A ” category security to Hafeez Saeed !!

    So Hafeez will never never never never be caught. Instead spin will be created as Imran Khan suggested that Saeed and LeT are good hearted people who should be won over with love.

    Wah !! Wah !! Applause !

    I can see Manohar and mahesh giggling that Hafeez will never be caught… and we need to win him over with love… even as he announces a hard time for India this year.!

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  • Anonymous

    There is only one way to deal with goons of all kind…reciprocate in kind..

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Not when you are alone… and there are ten of tme. One of whom is armed. No practical way. either you should know the Police and be willing to take a panga and have a ten yr litigation. Or you use police to give tem a scare back.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    well its 1.11 .. India time. Crashing of to sleep now …

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Just identify one..wait for your time and do the job.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Pakistan’s Army chief Kayani urges less spending on defence

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Pakistans-Army-chief-Kayani-urges-less-spending-on-defence/articleshow/12720640.cms

    Pakistan: Pakistan’s powerful Army chief on Wednesday said he would like to see the country spend less on defence, arguing that national security depended on development as much as on protecting borders.

    Chief of the Army staff, General Ashfaq Kayani, said “peaceful coexistence” with arch-rivals India was vital to both countries and the welfare of the people should be a priority.

    ———-

    Earlier they informed India about the possible infiltration by the Taliban. Now this!
    What is cooking? Are we seeing more realistic Pakistan establishment or ….. ?

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Good morning gentlemen.

    Love is blind and marriage is an eye opener.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Would divorce be an eye surgery?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    No experience cannot comment.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    India test fires long-range missile Agni-V, joins elite club

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/India-successfully-test-fires-Agni-V-takes-a-giant-stride/Article1-842796.aspx

    India on Thursday test fired Agni-V, the country’s first long range inter-continental ballistic missile (ICBM) from Wheeler Island, off the Odisha coast. The maiden flight test of Agni-V, was postponed on Wednesday. Bad weather conditions were cited as the reason.

    ———

    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    First thaw? BJP says it will back pension Bill

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/first-thaw-bjp-says-it-will-back-pension-bill/938642/0

    Excerpts

    Leader of Opposition in Rajya Sabha Arun Jaitley said here today that the Bharatiya Janata Party would support the government and facilitate the smooth passage of the pension bill (Pension Fund Regulatory and Development Authority Bill) in the budget session of Parliament. The budget session is set to reconvene post recess on April 23.

    “We are not opposed to the pension Bill. We had sought a couple of changes that were agreed to by the government. But on other financial sector Bills such as the one on banking amendment that seeks to lift the 10 per cent cap on voting rights and the insurance Bill that seeks to hike the FDI limit to 49 per cent from 26 per cent, there is resistance from within the Congress itself,” he told The Indian Express.

    ———–

    Referring to one particular Cabinet minister, all of whose Bills are stuck in Parliament, Jaitley said, “In each case, the opposition started with ruling party members. The Congress party is opposing its own ministers,” he said. To another question whether the BJP can still support some of these Bills, he said, “Strategically it is not possible…as Napoleon said, when the enemy is committing suicide, you don’t disturb them.”

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    When enemy is committing suicide, you don’t disturb them.

    Nice line.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Right you are, that is why I did a copy and paste of the particular para.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    we can even lend a helping hand.

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  • Anonymous

    Rashid Alvi says Abhishek Manu Singhvi has cold,

    Singhvi’s doctor says, no cold. Looks like he has developed cold feet.

    My friend in Bangalore says, Abhishek was singing this song while “frolicking” with the woman lawyer who wanted to be judge:

    ” bhiige honTh tere, pyaasaa dil meraa
    lage abr saa, haa, mujhe tan teraa

    jam ke barasaa de, mujh par ghataaen
    tuu hii merii pyaas, tuu hii meraa jaam
    kabhii mere saath, koii raat guzaar
    tujhe subahaa tak mai.n hai.n, karuu.N pyaar haa”

    But the media is collectively singing this vrind gaan:

    “kuchh naa kaho, kuchh bhI naa kaho
    kyaa kahanaa hai, kya sunanaa hai
    humko pataa hai, tumko pataa hai
    samay kaa ye pal, tham saa gayaa hai
    aur is pal mein koi nahin hai
    bas ek hum hain, bas ek Abhi hai……..”

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Singhvi developed cold feet, but he could not control his rest of the body
    which became so hot that he ………….

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  • Anonymous

    In Uganda, we had Idi Amin
    In West Bengal, we have Didi Amin
    Idi Amin ate human flesh dish
    Didi amin loves only fried fish.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Didi amin also loves the flesh of all who oppose her
    People would soon depose her

    Unless COngress or BJP occupy her space
    Bengal would lose the race

    The next 34 years again would be of CPM
    Bengal would be racing backwards to 1912, under them !

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    VIJAY kUMAR,

    very good. Yes, we are losing it in Bengal. If she goes on like this, even communist cadres would join the BJP.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    from lal salam to lal krishana Advani salam

    Bengal would at last progress :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay/Shenoy,

    Communists and ‘communal’ together?
    Would love to read views of Manohar, Mahesh, Ravi
    and Sanjay on this .

    Anonymous Reply:

    yes, communists+communal=community!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well BJP or Congress need to REPLACE the possible re-incarnation of CPM…

  • Anonymous

    MOhan

    wehre is the joke of teh day?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vjay Kumar,

    I had posted a permanent joke about the media and Narendra Modi in reply to your post here, but the censor found it so hilarious that it was promptly censored!

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Narendra Modi as a blogger on TOI

    ———–

    Skill Development: Strengthening Yuva Shakti

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/narendra-modis-blog/entry/skill-development-strengthening-yuva-shakti

    Dear Friends,

    I would like to share with you an anecdote of a man I know, who repairs watches. One day a watch came to him for repair during which he noticed a manufacturing defect. He then wrote a letter to the watch manufacturing company based in Switzerland pointing out a defect in the design of their product. As it turned out, the points raised by this man proved to be correct and the company not only appreciated the point raised by the man but also had to withdraw the watches from the market.

    —————-

    Read on.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    There may be many faults in Modi, but he is very sincere about development
    in Gujarat. He is not corrupt and is a workaholic person, he not only plans
    but makes sure that his plans are implemented. If other states follow him
    where development is concerned, our country will become envy of the world
    in few years.

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  • Anonymous

    Indians apni hartkaton se baaz nahin aayenge.

    In a night club somewhere in Europe a girl was dancing in skimpy dress.
    On one table an Italian put a note of Euro 100 in her bra, on another table
    a French put Euro 200 at the same place. Then she came to a table where an Indian
    was sitting. He took out an ATM card, swiped it between her b…..s and removed
    Euro 300/- and quietly walked out of the club.

    Indian banking everywhere.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan let me also compliment you on your jokes. And even Shenoy Saab is catching up. This blog is becoming all the more exciting.
    And whether Mr Sanjaydhawan is Vinod Sharma Sahib or not , his interventions are very interesting .( almost like those of Vinod Sharma Sahib)

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    Thanks. Shenoy is Master, I have still to learn many tricks from him.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    gr8 joke!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree. A joke for sure. Was there ever a doubt about the ‘master’?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen Saxenaji,

    this one is specially for you:

    A guy walks into a bar and sees a sign that reads:

    Cheese Sandwich: $1.50
    Chicken Sandwich: $2.50
    Hand Job: $10.00

    He checks his wallet and beckons to the sexy bartender.

    “Are you the one who gives the hand jobs?” he asks.

    “Yes,” she purrs. “I am.”

    “Well, wash your frickin’ hands,” says the man. “I want a cheese sandwich!”

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Saab . Trust me it was not me .

  • Anonymous

    The Congress setback, Nirmal Baba and some very exciting IPL matches dominated TV this week
    ———————————+++++++++++++++++++++++++++=======================

    The Congress lost the MCD elections in Delhi in such spectacular fashion that within an hour of the first news reports, a thousand lotuses bloomed. “Kamal, kamal aur kamal” is how News 24 described the unusual phenomenon. In other words, kamaal hai. By lunchtime, the Congress rout resembled a drought and the TV screen was flooded with jubilant BJP supporters. Now, news channels recognise a disaster when they see one and here was a man-made tsunami of alarming proportions for the ruling Congress. TV reporters rushed from East Delhi to West and from North to South Delhi, surveying the damage. And the one person they held responsible for the wreckage of Congress’ hopes was none other than Delhi’s chief minister, Sheila Dikshit. Or to mix the lyrics of two filmi item numbers, “Sheila badnaam hui, Dilli tere liye”.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/the-election-and-the-pitch/938498/0

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Rohini suicide, husband held

    New Delhi: The husband of Garima Vajpayee — who jumped to her death from a Rohini mall on Tuesday — was arrested in the case on Wednesday. He has been identified as Padam Vajpayee (36). Police said that Padam was arrested after Garima’s family alleged dowry harassment. He has been charged under Section 304B of IPC, a source said.
    The couple lived in Paschim Vihar and has two children. Police said that on Wednesday, the couple had an argument after which Garima came to the mall where Padam owned an outlet. She went to the seventh floor of the mall and jumped. TNN
    ========

    WTF, why does the police need to arrest the husband without any investigation? The couple had two children and that means they must have been married for some time. Did the parents of Late Garima Vajpayee ever received a dowry demand.
    a) if yes then what did they do about it?
    b) if no how could say that the death was related to dowry?

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Where is Sanjay? (fixing cong problems?)
    Where is Dr Shantanu? (going after a blond “Satyavathi”)
    Where is Ravi??
    Where is Egrich (regrouping Taliban??)

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi calls RSS leaders Shalwarpahenkar and Golimarkar forgetting that these two terms define his Amir Hafiz Saeed more..Hafiz Saeed wears Shalwar and has been in Goli business for very long.

    The terrorist and his supporters are hiding after their favorite party congress got routed in MCD poll. This is their calibrated response..when faced with difficult questions, all of them go in hiding.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    And Shan is avoiding this space probably bcause he won’t be able to defend Mamta’s antics!!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    ;) so much for rationality.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    U do keep revealing your humourous side once a while…

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay is temporarily withdrawn by the blogmaster. However, alternate arrangements are alreay in place for the censorship to go on undisturbed.

    NOBODY NEED ENTERTAIN ANY FEELING OF RELIEF AT SEEING SANJAY BACK INTO VINOD SHARMA’S MAGIC BOX.

    Last reports received about Shan say that he is not a doctor at all, but due to a mix up of identity, he got employed as a British government doctor.He also sighted at one of Mamta’s recent rallies.

    Both Ravi and engrich are reported to be safely and happily back in their London gutteral abode.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi as per his habit must be giving someone bl0wjob.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Gadkari has for the first time admitted that there is a problem between him and Modi. He also added that ambitious leaders are not good for the party.

    I too feel that Modi is not a party man but is more concerned about his own growth. This is another reason I feel he is unfit to be PM.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev,

    I think all parties should have a panel of four or five potential PM’s/

    Though I think all members still think they are the potential PM’s. But probably some way the British Parties or the American Parties chose their candidates.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev,

    you have bowled a googly. It is not such a straight forward issue. Here is what Mohan wrote this morning:

    “There may be many faults in Modi, but he is very sincere about development
    in Gujarat. He is not corrupt and is a workaholic person, he not only plans
    but makes sure that his plans are implemented…”

    Let me add a few things. He was sent by BJP to Gujrat to take charge of the state. Before that he had never shown any ambition to enter electoral politics.

    While the whole political class is discussing whether he is prime ministerial material, when he will throw his hat in the ring etc., he himself has NEVER EVER so much as hinted that he wants to be the PM. He is also NOT on record or off it saying what he rates himself as to the capability of bing a PM.

    I am not a big votary of Modi for PM’s post, while I am sure he will make a great PM. My desire is to see the back of this sham UPA and that a pro-people dispensation installed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It will be a great blessing for India if Modi becomes the PM.

    Time for all the “chors” to go home. We now need a builder of Sardar Patel’s mode/mould.

    BJP should let him loose to campaign.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,
    Modi as PM will be unacceptable to most of UPA allies. We need him as next Home Minister or may be Railway Minister. These both areas need urgent reforms.

  • Anonymous

    Mamta’s case just shows that all parties need to rise above personality cults.

    The older regional political parties…– the abdullas, the Badals, The mulayams, the Lalus , Karuna and sons, MGR and wives…

    Its all about single personalites.

    Even the COngress is a family cult… though it has the potential of becoming democratic and well organised.

    Can India actually have parties which are not personlaity driven?

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay-
    There will be family domination as long as our political party nomination process wrests with the party, and not with the people, like here in USA.

    It is extremely difficult for a politician’s son/daughter/relative to get elected here just because he/she is the politician’s relative. Party does not nominate anybody for any seat. people select who their candidates should be, from Panchayat level (village) to county/district, state, federal levels.

    Political party for the most part is an “idea” bearer – Democratic Party for a balanced approach between government/enterprise, Republican Party, especially with the current tea party dominance for a total free market unencumbered by regulation, government involvement, and for the most part for corporations to do stuff without caring for anybody.

    The recent supreme court ruling here declaring corporations as “people” , allowing corporations to spend unlimited dollars for advocacy advetisements will upset this in the short/medium or even long term. A corporate support group, for example, can spend unlimited money to promote their candidate (say a politician’s son), put him in a very positive light, while caricaturing the opponent as out of touch, extreme etc.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ benoy

    thanks for the input.

    My fear is that winners of the panchayat level may not yield National level leaders capable of understanding Agni and IT.

    We will probably still need a High command or a Central politburo or a Party president set up which first gets in four or five candidates, who then get selected becasue of polling by parties registered members.

    One condition all parties should really evolve is to ensure is honesty and dynastic capturing of the party does not happen.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay-

    US citizens who want to vote in the “primaries” will register with the county (similar to India’ district) indicating their party affiliation – Democratic, Republican.

    All elected seats, be it Panchayat member, state MLA, MP, State CM (Governor here), and President, along with the numerous other elected positions go through a primary election first, and then a general election.

    For every seat, x number of people (Vijay, John, Mohan etc) will contest to be the nominee of the party on both parties’ sides during the “primary” process. The registered republican party members will elect Vijay as their republican party nominee for the Lucknow MP seat in the primary election.. Similarly, the registered democrats will elect the democratic nominee.

    People can vote across the party lines in the general elections. So, Vijay and the democratic party candidate will face each other in general elections, and whoever wins become the MP from Lucknow. A registered republican voter who voted fro Vijay in the primary can vote for anybody he wants in the general election.

    As you may know, the republican party is having their primary contests for their presidential nominee for the November election. Romney will be the nominee based on the results so far; however, the formal nomination will happen only after their party’s nominating convention in Tampa in the summer.

    Similar primary process is happening all across the country for the senate, house, state MLA, county representatives etc.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The good part is that it ensures that nobody can “capture” the party and promulgate a family rule. Local and natinal issues will also merge this way.

    bad part for india would be that this is a bit complicated and would need fine tuning. The American system presupposes two or three national parties… having evolved this way.

    Indians need to actually study this and the British method of selecting aspiring PM’s

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay-

    You are right.
    It takes few parties, mature democracy, more money etc.
    The “family business model” will continue in India without some process like the US practice.

    Another reason why the “family model” is absent in the US is due to the fact that it is extremely difficult to be corrupt/to steal money. So, in that sense, no family has any vested interest in political positions — In general, people who get into politics are those who generally want to serve, who want to create a better life for the next generation. Elections are generally fought on these themes.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think the key here is that political leaders cant steal so easily as they do in India. The motivations for coming to power are different.

    In case the politician senses no chance of making kickback money or sees no scope of misusing law for his own business or fammily intierest, 80% of the current lot will jus tdrop off.

    Of course there would be dishonesty in matured democracies too. But not Indian style, where most MPs have huge business interests powered by their position.

    In case will come people who would lust to see their thougts and ideas implemented; who would want the respect which comes out of doing good work; status which comes out of adulation becasue of honesty.

    The whole system can be turned upside down.

    But how?

    That is what we need to probe.

  • Anonymous

    drug problems in Punjab..YTimes article – Jim Yardley -
    May be Pakistan is behind in the supply.. This may be their way of destroying India. Hope there is a plan 1- to make sure this does not spread across India 2- all assistance is given to Punjab to contain this. Punjab is the last place in India I would have guessed something like this will happen.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/world/asia/drug-addiction-is-a-growing-problem-in-punjab.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, Pakistani Punjab is an opium den.

    Opium and other drugs may be coming from across the border with commercial as well as an ISI perspective.

    Why do you say “Punjab will be the last place for something ..” ? Punjabi farmers have too much disposable income for their children to buy/use these.

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  • Anonymous

    Times coverage of Missile launch by Heather Timmons. The China perspective is interesting
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/world/asia/india-says-it-successfully-tests-nuclear-capable-missile.html?hp

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Benoy

    Thnks for the link. For me the funny comment came from Praful Bidwai. Trust our lefites to have a CHina flag on their chaddi

    He wants India to take China’s help… then declares that China’s missile program is legitimate… as it targets India and the rest of the world !

    While India’s missile program is illegitmate as it targets China !

    Wow some servile logic…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Profool Bidwai is relic from the past…I just skip his blogs..Useless commie.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Real joker. I see him sometimes in Delhi… never talked to him though. Of course I am more tempted topull his ears ! :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    if you so much as touch his ears, they will sprout proletariat blood. You can try his beard.

  • Anonymous

    The “agni puthri” of India, role model for girls (and boys) to get into science education..
    as I mentioned yesterday, this gives me four reasons to be proud -
    An Indian, Malayali, Christian (not related to this Thomas), and a woman achiever! Go, Tessy, go!

    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/meet-the-woman-behind-agniv-success/250201-3.html

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————
    ~~~ WHAT MAMATA CAN LEARN FROM MODI ~~~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————-

    Mamta scared the nano project from Bengal so that it dropped into Modi’s lap in extreme west.

    Now mamta’s East India should learn a few tricks from Modi’s West India.

    I am highly impressed By Gujarat’s solar power initiative. Asia’s biggest solar village of 500 MW is partly functional now. Like Badal took advice from Modi and reversed his fortunes in the last year of his lacklustre ruel, Mamta can reverse fortune by picking up programs and ideas from Modi’s Gujarat.

    Solar Energy could be good start. Whenever I have installed solar panels on houses or buildings the whole feel becomes different. Eco friendly, energy efficient and a message in that. Yhe tech has changed by leaps and bounds.

    If mamta just builds up solar energy as her special initiatve… she can change her image.

    Though I feel she wont have the vision too and most likely keep crying victimhood…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Some women become Tessys and fire real missiles… others become Mamta…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely right . Mamta is a dud now..

    tessy is India’s new face and future.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Tessy, the Agni Putri, had a great part
    The firebrand didi only knows to ****.

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  • Anonymous

    And whole of Islam is all about slavery of Sayyeds…

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  • Anonymous

    What happened to Bhangaarwala (Kabaadi) Sanjay? Looks like too busy clunking in Congress HQ…Poor guy is so insignificant, he doesn’t even get noticed by small fries like Shakeel Ahmed.

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  • Anonymous

    Pakistan Chief Justice Chowdhary hoodwinked the whole system and made it sure that Rinkal Kumari, Asha and Lata go back to their muslim husbands.

    Just watch this debate and see how muslims treat others when in majority. See how host is behaving…He is so partial.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHkDz7Nk_O4

    One day Indian muslims will have to pay for the sins of ******** across the border.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev-

    I do not understand much Hindi, but I get the gist. NYTimes has been covering this, including the latest ‘”decision”.

    However, I disagree with your statement “Indian Muslims will …”. Indian Muslims are not involved in the kidnapping, conversion, forced marriage etc of these girls.

    They could have organized a protest march against this – they always organize protest march against Israel’s treatment in the West Bank, or about US’ treatment of Muslims etc.

    GOI should be ridiculed — they should have taken the issue to Pak Govt, or expatriated all Hindus from Pak.

    Shameless Indians are pursuing trade with Pakistan!.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,
    Indian muslims are made from the same fabric. They can truly be good INDIAN muslims if they show empathy for minorities across the border. The muslim mind works very differently..They want tolerance and secularism when in minority and TOTAL Islam when in majority. Indian muslims are just biding for their time when they will be sizable minority (25% plus) and then we will see mayhem (We have already witnessed in J&K, now slowly also witnessing same thing in Kerala and Assam).

    If you knew hindi, you would have found many things in this video highly offensive.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well Rajeev, what did Hindus here do? They will sit this out as they did when their fellow Hindus/human beings were massacred in Sri Lanka, leave alone conversion.

    Coming to think of it, what did the so called heroic Rajputs do in yester years? They willingly gave their daughters and sisters to Moghuls so they can get some gold or castle…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hindus should put pressure of always whining muslims to raise voice for hindus across the border.

    As for Rajputs, they were the reasons muslims ruled over India. Except for Rana Pratap most of them were pimps for muslims.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev,

    This is one of the reason I can never trust Pakistan.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev has reported about the happenings in Pakistan . let me report something about our country.
    A story was reported in the Indian Express today on the 5th or 6th page as a snippet that a Christian couple and a local friend were externed from Bandipora by the J&K Police for distributing Christian literature . This has not beeneven taken notice of by the Knights of Indian Secularism including the host of this blog who also is a member of the NMC . This is the true face of Indian Secularism and that is why these fakes can never enjoy credibility.
    Secularism as practiced by these fake secularists is nothing but a political device to encourage vote- bank politics. In the local MCD elections , almost all newspapers have reported that Congress bigwigs had appealed to Muslims to vote en-masse as a community .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen

    My take is that Ambedkar and his team worked overtime defining minorities (with no mention of majority) in the constitution, instead of just stating all as Indians, and defining the rights of Indians..thus they created an opening for politicians to appease.

    He focused on dividing the people, instead of focusing on how country’s resources will be allocated to the people – thus we have the never ending water disputes between karnataka/Tamil nadu on Kauveri, Karnataka/Maharashtra on Narmada et al

    I can go on

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji/Praveen,

    The so called secular party Congress is in fact most communal party of India.

  • Anonymous

    If you want somethin very badly, you will definitetly get it
    If you don’t get it that means you never wanted that badly enough.

    Good night.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    a good one!

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  • Anonymous

    Gopi, Mohan, Vijay Kumar,

    this news has made me very sad and angry:

    In its moment of celebration, DRDO leaves out ‘Agni putri’
    ========+++++++++++++++++======================

    As the Agni V missile thundered into the sky off the coast of Orissa on Thursday, it was a moment of triumph for Tessy Thomas, the scientist who broke the glass ceiling in the male-dominated arena of rocket science when she was appointed to head the Agni IV mission.

    But the name of the woman who has played a crucial role in the development of the Agni series of missiles was missing in the press release issued by the Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO). The release mentioned all other scientists present at the launch.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/in-its-moment-of-celebration-drdo-leaves-out-agni-putri/939181/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS

    Looks like they mentioned only the “administrative” bureaucracy..may not have any ulterior move…

    Anyway, let us hope, she will inspire many girls (and boys) will pick up Science studies — and not MBA .

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  • Anonymous

    Murtaz Razvi, an eminent journalist of Dawn newspaper in Pakistan is killed…

    A fine journalist, he was against the ISI high handedness, increasing terrorism etc..
    Sad that we can not read his columns any more.

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  • Anonymous

    A wonderul blog written by Pramit Pal Chaudhri today , also the links provided there to 3 articles on Nepal , Pakistan and Sri-Lanka. All articles are a treat to read.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    karunanidhi has already started fishing… He declared that there will be a Tamil nation in the north of Sri Lanka in the Jaffna region.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That is the trouble with regional parties. In case htey lose… they start taking extreme positions without seeing the central national interest.

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  • Anonymous

    How many HIndu men are married to Muslim girls in Pakistan and still alive? One or two?

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  • Anonymous

    This gentleman must be really frustrated with his wife. He was heard telling his friend
    ‘ next month is my silver wedding anniversary, I am taking my wife to a nice peaceful
    hill station at a remote place. I will again go there on our golden wedding anniversary
    and bring her back ‘
    His friend asked him why? This is what he said
    ‘ wife is a knife to the life ‘

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  • Anonymous

    Engrich,

    I have always enjoyed your jokes including this one.

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  • Anonymous

    ———————————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~~ THE BATTLE OF THE WOMB ~~ how Pakistanis unite to forcibly convert ~~
    ———————————————————————————————————————–

    I hae been stressing that the Paksitani state and most people unite when it comes to forcibly convert minoirties, especially Hindus and CHristians. They even put forward coy suggestions that these are love marriages and we, the right wing are intruding in a matter of hearts !! :)

    Manohar took this line.

    Engrich takes the line which most of Pakistan takes. That these kidnapped girls are being converted to a better religion so what is wrong? In fact he boasts (in his earlier posting) that he has converted 10-12 girls himself.

    My line is that Marriage, religion and relationships are a matter of heart. BUT >>> BUT>>> But…

    WHat is being done in Pakistan is A PROACTIVE STATE WHICH CAPTURES THE WOMB SO THAT NON MUSLIMS ARE NOT PRODUCED. There is a conspiracy of silence which ensures that this act gets done smoothly and with a duplciotus facade… the same way they handle their terror program.

    Here is one big question.

    Show me ten HIndus who married Muslim girls in Pakistan, without converting to Islam themselves. WHat is the ratio of Muslim girls converitn to Hinduism to marry Hindus in Paksitan as compared to Hindu girls forcible married to Muslm men and accepting Islam.

    There will be a conspiracy of silence on this now.

    Here is an article from the International Herald Tribune:
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    KARACHI:
    Their logic is hard to argue with: why are Hindu men not converting? Why is it that only young girls of a marriageable age are surfacing in these cases? And if these girls are so keen to convert, why don’t they go to madrassas, learn the religion and then go through with it?

    Shaking with rage, Amarnath Motumal of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP), asked this barrage of questions at a press conference on Saturday. It was held with the tearful families of victims of forced conversions who demanded that their girls should be returned to them.

    “When a girl is converted, why is she married off immediately?” Motumal said. “If she has converted for the sake of Islam, then why doesn’t she join a madrassa to educate herself and spread knowledge about the religion?”

    He said that around 20 to 22 girls are being converted every month, but families do not go public as they fear the incident will ruin their reputation.

    The family of 19-year-old Rinkle Kumari, who was allegedly abducted, forced to covert and marry a Muslim, claimed that they are receiving death threats.

    “Take the case back or we will kill you all,” is the threat the family received on March 8, according to the Rinkle’s brother-in-law Inder Lal.

    A frustrated Lal said that if Rinkle had converted and married of her own free will, she would have held a press conference immediately after the court’s decision. “For six days, she was quiet. It was only when the issue was raised internationally, that she came in front of the media.”

    After the last court hearing in Sukkur, Rinkle appeared before the media and stated that she was not forced by anyone. But her family has stuck to its stance that Rinkle’s conversion to Islam and her marriage to Naveed Shah was forced.

    “She did not even know the person,” exclaimed Rinkle’s father, Nand Lal, who is a primary school teacher in Mirpur Mathelo. “We have no internet or telephone connections at home, so there is no way she could have been in touch with Naveed.” He informed that Rinkle had recently completed her intermediate studies and two days before Rinkle was allegedly kidnapped, she was planning to go to Karachi to shop for her brother’s wedding.

    While talking to The Express Tribune, the family provided new information about the alleged kidnapping. “Rinkle’s friend Kiran was the brains behind the plan. She took money from the kidnappers and gave them all the information about Rinkle,” accused Nand Lal. “We wanted to nominate Kiran in the FIR but the DSP refused.”

    According to the family, Rinkle was kidnapped by armed men while on her way to the bathroom built in the courtyard.

    “If she had planned to elope, she would have taken her slippers and her sweater,” pointed out her family members. “But she was kidnapped barefoot and without any warm clothes in the cold weather.”

    The family, who are in Karachi for the time being, asked that Rinkle should be taken to a neutral place for at least eight days and be allowed to meet her family.

    Raised voices

    Rinkle’s mother covered her face with a dupatta and wept silently as the HRCP Sindh vice chairperson voiced the community’s troubles. “We can’t even sleep at night, wondering whether our kidnapped girls would become suicide bombers or would they be sold off into prostitution,” lamented Motumal.

    He said that forced conversion is not a new practice, claiming that extremists are taking advantage of the religion by preaching at madrassas on how to convert non-Muslims.

    “When an underage girl is forced to convert, she is not allowed to meet her family. She is told that the people who gave birth to her and raised her have become Kaafirs.”

    Lata’s story

    The press conference was also attended by the family of 29-year-old Dr Lata Kumari, who was kidnapped on February 28 on her way to the College of Physicians and Surgeons in DHA. Her family alleged that she has been forcibly converted and married to Nadir Baig Dhar, the son of a suspended judge.

    Lata’s father, Dr Ramesh Kumar, spoke out against the harsh treatment that the family received in the court on March 7. “The police did not even let us meet Lata at the first hearing of the case and they beat us with sticks,” said Lata’s mother, a hypertension patient. “The kidnappers did not leave burqa-clad Lata alone for even a minute. Nadir and his goons would come in front of me every time I approached her. I could not even look at my daughter properly.”

    Kumar said that they knew Nadir from before, claiming that the accused had converted five Hindu girls already. According to Lata’s brother Vishal, Nadir works at the quality assurance department of a motor company.

    “Lata clutched my arm and asked me to do something for her,” said a teary eyed Joti, Lata’s sister. “Why are the criminals not letting us meet her, what are they scared of?”

    Kumar alleged that the signature on the documents were not Lata’s.

    Lata, who has an MBBS degree from Larkana, used to live at the Aga Khan hostel and had worked as a medical researcher. Two of her siblings are also doctors and live in Hyderabad, while the rest of the family lives in Jacobabad.

    During the press conference, another suspected kidnapping came up. People from Jacobabad said that a Hindu girl Asha Devi, who used to work at a beauty parlour, never made it home from work.

    HRCP’s Badar Soomro condemned the forced conversions of the three per cent minority population in the country. “Why are the extremists after the minorities? Let them live freely.”

    On March 8, the Supreme Court directed the Sindh police IG to find Lata, Rinkle and another Hindu girl Pooja Devi, and present them at the next hearing on March 26. However, the families were not hopeful. “They [the courts] record statements under section 164 and then the girl is sent immediately with the criminals,” said Motumal. “She is given no time to think about her decision or talk to her family.”

    He suggested that the court should give such girls a week’s time to make up their mind, while they stay at the Darul Aman with their mother.

    Published in The Express Tribune, March 11th, 2012.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    In love why the question of religion should arise? I have never seen anyone falling
    in love because of other person’s religion. If one of those changes religion and claims
    that he/she had done without any coercion, in my books that is compromise not love.
    Here in Dubai one of my friend’s – we both are from the same place in India – daughter
    married a Pakistani Muslim boy few years back. She has become muslim, covers her
    head always and this boy never visits his wife’s parents. He has told them that he will
    not visit them until they remove all the pictures of Gods from their house .
    Is this love ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is not love… it is only love for the ideals of Hafeez Saeed and co.

    I think it really reall really is a battle for the womb.

    I would be happy in cse they were more inter religious marriages. But it cant be one sided and has to be balanced. In Paksitan’s case it is an undeclared war to convert or capture the wombs.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay/Mohan,

    On this story, Rajeev also shared a youtube link. I couldn’t watch the whole clip (36 minutes long). What I could make out from it was the fact that even the SC of Pakistan is not being fair. It asked the “victims” to record their statement to the police in their custody whether they wanted to stay with their husbands or go back to their family. The judge could have heard their statement in the court but he didn’t find it a wise thing to do. On 26th March, at least one of the girls had stated that she wanted to go back to her family.

    Can’t expect better from any Pakistani institution.
    ———————————————————————–

    Staying on Pakistan, here’s a good one…

    “Pakistan should never hand over Hafiz Saeed to India as India will start spending billions of rupees for his food and security.”

    Taslima Nasreen Author

    Anonymous Reply:

    Taslima is probably right.

    If Hafeez is sent here… he can reasonably be sure that his name would be put behid Afzal guru and Kasab… which would ensure that he lives for 50 years more.

    Anonymous Reply:

    No,
    India doesn’t have to spend crores on “looking after” Hafiz Saeed. If he sees the progress made by India with his own eyes, within a few months he will die of jealousy.

    Anonymous Reply:

    We can even show him singhvi video to torture him

    Anonymous Reply:

    viju

    India Gov could have lodged a protest against the forced conversions, as well as the general anti-minority environment that has been further worsened by the enactment of “blasphemy law”.

    Muslims here who protest on a regular basis against the Israeli treatment of West Bank Arabs could have staged a protest march against this. At least as a PR gesture.

    Also, as I mentioned earlier in a response to Rajeev, Hindus here could have raised their voice. But no. They remained silent when their fellow Hindus/human beings were slaughtered in Sri Lanka. And they are silent to this one now.

    But what did the so called heroic Rajputs do yester years? They were glad to give their daughters and sisters to the mogul kings and the local Muslim nawabs in exchange for a pot of gold or castle…..

    Well, the tradition continues – we want trade now — nothing has changed!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    I think we should learn from the past. Indians , especially Muslims have to protest against this at th Pakistani embassy. If, nothing , the badnaami Paksitan gets will make some small changes in their attitude. On the home front, the Muslim protest at the Paksitani embasy will definately send a signal to doubters that Indian Muslims are different and are all for minority protection, secularism and against blasphemy laws.

    I think we need to give open visas to the persecuted minorites of Pakistan. Nothing big about it. When 2 crore Bangladeshis can come and settle here… we can surely take in genuinely tortured minorities from pakistan.

    In the end it just shows how wrong the Congress is by campaigning for votes on communal lines as it did in UP. It is bound to strenghten the forces of separatism and division.

    I doubt whether this UPA government has the good of India in mind as it asks us to lower its guard against Pakistan. While the whole world is sick of it… we are attmpting to become its saviours.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am for granting visa/asylum to Hindus who want to get out of Pakistan..and close all ties toPakistan

  • Anonymous

    If somebody is having a bad day, just think of Mr. Ronald Wayne who 36 years ago
    in April 1976 sold his 10% shares in Apple for USD 800/- today those shares would have
    been worth USD 460 million.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well he would have eaten a basket of apples with them then…

    Anyway his loss is going to make him world famous !

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  • Anonymous

    All those wanting Orders to be passed against the Gujarat Govt , move the SC now .

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  • Anonymous

    http://www.twitvid.com/9RKOW

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    Anonymous Reply:

    With this video moving around, his political career is about over. The country will not accept a law Minister or even a party spokesman, caught with pants down. Was there any mention of giving some government job of high level for getting this favour? Could not hear as I had turned off the sound… was in office and as usual pretending to be working!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It looks as if he too was pretending to be ‘working’.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    really gr8 !!

    Kaam aur kaamsutra ki doori poori lar di !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Till now Dr.Singhvi was preaching law to everybody.
    Now he has become the lawfing stock of his party.
    Having been removed from the media head position, he will now preach Kamasutra to all sutradhars in politics, business and also THE MEDIA!

    Vinodji, watch out for honey-traps.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I pretend to have not watched the video in the above link.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Of course all in the AICC office too have pretended not too have watched it with their eyes CLOSED.

    Some were wondering whether he was swearing on the law books… but then they never saw it.

    I think the curse of swearing Modi Modi all the time is coming back . The issue is that did Aaj Tak really have somehting so deadly in its possession– like offering judgeship– that this government would have fallen.

    Imagine the implication. You hire a decison maker for a certain performance and then is not the decison maker going to give you favourable decisons?

    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS

    Looks like a Aamr Singh doctored one…..

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  • Anonymous

    “The Central government on Friday said that the Kerala police had no authority to detain the Italian ship ‘Enrica Lexie’. The Centre told the Supreme Court that the Kerala Police Station had no jurisdiction to detain the ship or probe the incident as the incident occurred on high seas. ”
    CM of Kerala says that he took all steps after consulting the Centre. If this was the satnd of the GOI what was the need for all the Tamasha ? Wonder what was the influence which brought such a change in the GOI ’s position. After all we had all read about the two Italian marines although in police custody were put up at the CISF guest house as guests of the State.
    Wonder what was the influence which brought such a change in the GOI ’s position?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The Kerala CM initially didn’t allow the Italian marines to be shifted to the CRPF guest house and then had to relent. Now, the centre has changed its stand in the SC that the incident took place within Indian waters.

    I love the Kerala Police arguement on this developing story…

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/kerala-fishermen-killings-case-centre-does-u-turn/1/185302.html

    What does the law say on this?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    The Italian ship/marines issue is not getting much local coverage here.

    The big thing here is how Muslim League twisted UDF/Congress to get another – fifth- ministerial berth. Congress already has a Muslim minister, so with this new addition there are six Muslims in the cabinet – out of 20 ministers.

    There is a lot of coverage, mostly neagtive, on this.Even the Msulim minister from Congress is against this. There are all sorts of horse-trading happening.

    The way things are, Muslim League can ask for a few more ministerial slots, because UDF will collapse without Muslim League support

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Now, Congres shouldn’t lecture us on communalism; and

    Abhishek Manu Singhvi, I am sure, wouldn’t lecture us anymore on “chal, charitra and chehra”…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar, Gopi, Praveen Saxenaji,

    Very interesting how “rishte badalte hain”.

    In the early 1960s when Muslim League leader Mohammed Koya was sworn in as the speaker of the Kerala assembly, the state Congress had insisted that he take off his fur cap at the ceremony.

    Koya had to yield to the demand from the powerful coalition leader. As if that alone was not enough, none other than Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru had come out with a statement: “The League is a dead horse”.

    DURING THE LAST FIVE DECADES, THE CONGRESS HAS BECOME A CHAMPION AT EATING HUMBLE PIES. NOW IN THE KERALA CABINET, MINORITIES ARE IN A MAJORITY (12 OUT OF 21)!

    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS
    You are right about koya.(actually koya was a nationalist, although belonged to ML)

    Fast forward 50 years. The education minister, who is a Muslim League member refused to light the standard “bhadra deepam” to inaugurate the State Youth festival- KJ Jesudas who was an invited guest lighted it instead!.

    (edu ministry was always in ML hands in all non-Marxist coalition governments beacuse until recently there was not much money making opportunity in Edu dept, so congressis did not want that dept, and ML was more than happy to have it — so they acn employ Arab teachers, give pensions to Madrasa Mullahs, include Arabic elocution contests for youth featival — you name it)..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, Congress amintains Muslim League is not communal, but BJP is!

    Anonymous Reply:

    A day will soon come when the centre will tell Maharashtra government that they had no right to arrest Kasab!

    ANd for the sin of having arrested him, he will be baa-izzat bari kiya jayegaa.

    baa-izzat=5.00crore rupees (genuine notes)

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  • Anonymous

    ————————————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~~ CONGRATS TO VINOD SHARMA ! ~~~~
    ————————————————————————————————————————–

    Amid the heat and dust of the arguments on this blog, let me congratulate you for the Title of the blog.

    Merciless Mamata !!

    Her love is certainly merciless. Aisa pyaar toh dushmanon ko mubarak ho… !

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  • Anonymous

    India Today is running a cover story called the “Booby trap.” It is about breast enhancement.

    Well, find it strange that somthing which is now found to be explosive in france– with silicon implanted 30 years in various breasts “xploding” should be such a huge issue.

    In the end are the girls preffering to switch over from delivering “the milk of human kindness’ to “ice igloos of hard frigidty…” ?

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  • Anonymous

    For M J Akbar fans, here’s his analysis post MCD polls…

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/india-today-editorial-director-m-j-akbar-on-mcd-polls-bjp-defeats-congress/1/185298.html

    He goes on to relate it with recent UP assembly elections and says:
    Congress would have got the same results, with or without his campaign. The story is not that Rahul Gandhi did not make a difference, but that he could not make a difference.
    ——

    Interesting as always.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Akbar is probably among the top ten journos of India !!!

    Period.

    VIndo Sharma is also among the top… as long as COngress doesnt come into the pic. See his blogs on the NE and Dev Anand and for that matter on Jagjit Singh. Bass yeh Congress ki gulami ke karan… apni position consolidate nahi kar paa rahe..

    C’mon Vinodji… dump this losing Congress and dynastic worship…

    And see how we all salute you …

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  • Anonymous

    From a media darling to a porn star!
    Abhi is the Sonny Lion of congress party!!!!!!!!

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~~ BANGARU LAX MAN WAS WRONGED~~~ congressis please apologise ~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————–

    Sanjayji and Vinodji, please come out of retirement and give comments

    Let is compare two CDs. In one Bangaru aLaxman is deliberately induced with a paltry sum of Rs 50,000/- for a fake deal in which he promises NOTHING !! tehelka and its trolls and pimps (they supplied whores to army) just forcibly hand over the money

    In the second

    The Congress chief spokesman

    a) Does yaun uthpeedan and promises judgeship in case of BJ ( Blow J_ _) and probably expects court decisons to favour congress

    b) his party chief smiles and dismisses issue as that of love

    c) Congress does nothing

    d) The sanctity of the supreme court has been spoilt by BJ and moral turpitude in remises

    Tauba Tauba Tauba… Yeh sab kya ho raha hai????????? Kya girawat hai congress mein !! Tauba Tauba Taub!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Abhishake ne Soniaji ko wo haseen din yaad dila diye..Unko to inaam se nawaza jana chahiye.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think Abhishek’s rather tepid performance is reflective of the tepid performance of the COngress in the past few elections :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Was that lady with Abhishake our Ravi in wigs?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Raviji has been absent from the blogs
    Is he in the bogs?

    or does he now wear a wig
    and delive B jobs
    ?

  • http://dealstop.co.uk Larry

    Merciless Vinod Sharma pounding anyone who dares to be a thorn in UPA’s arse

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  • Anonymous

    bad, bad, bad

    after 60 years!

    take 4 % out of gdp..
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/business/global/india-struggles-to-deliver-enough-electricity-for-growth.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We have serious power shortage this year!

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  • Anonymous

    Largest solar emergy field – gujrat -report wash post
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/gujarat-flips-switch-on-worlds-largest-solar-leading-indias-renewable-energy-mission/2012/04/19/gIQAZghhST_story.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx benoy

    Really inspiring article. Gujarat now has 66% of India’s solar capacity.

    I think Modi’s personel advise to Badal to resurrect his image got Badal to install solar in Punjab over canals in a big way.

    Unfortunately , as you would notice on this blog, msot people would spend their time villyfying Gujaratis , rather than trying to learn governance which is getting so many breakthroughs there.

    Mamta can go for solar. But she wont.

    Jaya probably would…

    Congress states would just look at Rahul g for instructions. But would never get insprired enough to copy Modi on this…

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  • Anonymous

    Good morning guys.

    Biggest shock.

    Preparing to go for honeymoon, wife told her husband ‘ take only Kohinoor condoms
    as I am allergic to other brands ‘

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    Anonymous Reply:

    subah subah 10000 volt jhatka,,,

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Kohinoor ka noor! Subah nallah!!
    andhere mein bhi chamakta hai!!!!!!!

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  • Anonymous

    MERCILESS MAMATA
    MERCIFUL SONIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Even after the whole world has watched with hilarity and mirth the congress party’s chief of media cell on a CD indulging in sexploitation, Sonia Gandhi has shown great amount of “understanding” and spared Abhishek Manu Singhvi of the rod.

    Madamji, there is this saying, “spare the rod and spoil the children”.

    You are actually encouraging others like Manish Tiwari etc. to exploit such situations.

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  • Anonymous

    Dirty video and subversion of system.

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/randomaccess/entry/dirty-video-and-subversion-of-system

    This is not only about sex, but what is being promised in return.
    These people at prominent places in government are prepared to compromise anything.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    That is what I have been stressing from day 1. The system is being sold for sex and money. THE BIG STORY IS SELLING GOVERNMENT POSTS FOR SEXUAL FAVOURS…

    Congress watch out. Sabka haath ab thapadd ban gaya hai…

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ CONGRESS NEIN COURT KI MARYADA BHANG KAR DI ! ~~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————-

    There are two aspects of the dirty video of the COngress spokeman.

    a) Is fornification alowed in court premises. One has to check out the relevent PENal acts to decipher Manu Singhvi’s penis act.

    We need to temember that Congress was a party of fantastic lawyers once. Wonder what lawyers like Gandhi, patel and Nehru would have said about fornification in court premises by a congresman

    b) The promise of judgeship for the sexual favour. Gandhi aur nehru ke desh mein yeh girawat kaisi? This is gross gross gross abuse of position and power.

    The CBI should swing into action and media for once should probe the genuine CD.

    ———————————————————————–

    I have a feelign that the BJP will be too decent to the COngress on this. The BJP has Jailtey who was good freinds with Manu and his father LM Singhvi. They would let COngress of the hook

    Would be sad if the COngress is let off and then they would see the same Congress start shouting Modi Modi rape rape and see it misuse the CBI .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    Thre is another aspect to the issue. The driver is said to have conceded before the court that he got the CD fabricated etc in Bihar. That he wanted a large amount of money from Singhvi . The Court hastily accepted this contention and granted permanent injunction. But is this man not liable to be prosecuted criminally. The Court it appears was in a hurry to bring an end to this episode and has ignored and has not gone into this aspect. The shopkeeper in Bihar who allegedy fabricated this CD is also liable to be prosecuted . Let us see how this case proceeds now. I spoke to lawyer friend of mine from the Delhi High Court. He had seen the video on the very first day and disclosed the identity of the Lady advocate also. Presently she is believed to be abroad.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The little guy will end up in jail and the big guy will go on destroying the country..

    Sanghvi’s story, for a brilliant lawyer, looks like one that is “set up” in a hurry. A long term driver gets fired on March 17th…the little driver who knows how powerful Sanghvi is, blackmails him!

    Now, is there a case if the driver, obviously under threat to him and his family or lured by the promise of money, declares the video is fraud?
    Is there any clause where a third party (say your lawyer friend) can file a case to do a “forensic” on the conversation, because the subject discussed is a very grave one.?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Our friend, Vinodji will be the best consultant who can guide us and give friendly advice at this critical juncture in the life of our dear party, the national heritage, a great asset called the congress party.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Praveen

    Seems that all spinners will get going on this. But I also expect Manu SInghiv’s opponenets in the COngress would be getting some pleasure out of this.

    Overll since this hits the Congress… chances are that this would be buried.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    viju

    I have not seen anywhere any statement from the lady lawyer. Have you?

    Did she want to be a judge to be a judge or to make money like the judge from Kolkotta high court, Chandigarh, and also like KG Balakrishnan? She is a rich woman according to news reports, did she want even more???

    It is really really bad.. On one day the country goes to the zenith of scientific accomplishment; on another day to the nadir of moral and righteousness depravity.

    Scientific accomplishments do not make a nation. Values do.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    This lady wants to become a judge as the writer of an article says
    of which I provided the link this morning.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, Gopi, Praveen Saxenaji,

    The lady’s name, ironically, is Anusuya Salwan and she badly needed to become a judge.

    As to why the judge gave a hurried decision in favour of Singhvi may be because he/she too must have become a judge by doing “service” to the media head of the congress party.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    This lady Ms. Salwan has gone abroad as Praveen informed us. The reason of her going abroad could be that she started
    getting calls from other leaders of Congress claiming that
    they are in better position to make her a judge. Now it is
    anybody’s guess as to what they would have asked her
    in reciprocation.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, Mohan, leave the lady alone….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Ok won’t comment about her.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    Dont havw any illusions of the present set of ladies i hi fi positions. You can read about SImran sood who had no qualms about murdering or Maria susiaraj who chopped her lover to pieces. NDTV today,talks about one Ms Patel in Washington who asked he husband to expect a sexual oil massage and then poured gasoline over him and lit him up.

    Point is girls today are equally complicit in illegal activites. Kani mozhi took the stance that she is maa behn and biwi so 200 crores should be forgotten and Nalini takes the stance that she is maa, behen and biwi so free me despite the killing of the PM.

    Wwe suffer from illusions that ALL girls are soft and understanding and innocent. That is NOT so.

    Had Ms Salwan not dangled herself,
    SInghvi might not have mangled himself…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju
    Liked your last sentence..

    Anonymous Reply:

    I like the response and the last rhyming stanza the most.

    yes, today’s nari is no abala. She can be a decoit, robber, knifer, lifer, murderer, cheat, 420, fixer, charmer, thief and all other things, which men hate.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, you are right.

    there may be calls from ministers, like it happened with a nurse in Rajasthan. Now some ministers may promise to make her supreme court judge, directly.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes Shenoy Saab … that was the name I had heard , but I did want to mention it on this public forum. But Shenoy Saab kindly exercise more restraint when talking of courts or judges.
    On the Net I have also seen news item that the present C J of India had rejected and sent back a panel of 5 names recommended by the Delhi High Court collegium , for appointment as Judges, and this name was in that panel.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like the Congress wallahs on this blog are in a damage control mode elsewhere — must be monitoring the sites to remove the video…

    where is Manu Joseph/Open Magazine on this? Now that he is an “insider” with the powerful, he may keep silent. (and go after Modi for his inaction, as they have done in this issue!)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Even from this blog, Sanjay, the the most vehement defender of Congress
    is missing.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopji,

    Modi will be only criticized by our mainstream media. Yesterday Benoy
    provided a link where Gujarat flipped the switch on Asia’s largest solar
    power plant which was completely ignored by our media.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    You are right. I did not read anywhere about the solar energy accomplishment in Gujrat, commissioning of the largest solar energy producer in Asia…

    There is power cut everywhere in India – eevn though the real summer has not yet set in. It is going to be a bad summer with more power cuts.

    Gujrat is the only state where there is no power cut

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  • Anonymous

    In Malayalam, we have a usage “Thakarnna Tharavad” . Both these words are not easily translatable to other languages. “thakarnna”, sort of means decayed from within, decayed through deliberate actions of inheritors, decayed beyond redemption etc. “tharvad” is the ancestral house, lineage, heredity…. Some Tharvads like Palat (of ex foerign secretary Shiv Shanker Menon) produces generations of foreign secretaries (KPS Menon, PN Menon, Shiv Shanker etc) and scientists (MGK Menon) and stalwarts in other fields time and time again, whereas other Tharvads decay and self
    destruct becoming “thakarnna tharavad” ..

    Has India become a “Thakarnna Tharavad” ? now that we have started selling judgeships for sexual favour? Shouldnt judgeships be a little higher priced?

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  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Merciless mamta has given UPA 15 days notice.

    Seems she is mercilessly going to hsake the pack of cards called UPA..

    Then mercilessly commit suicide…

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  • Anonymous

    This was not reported by media.

    During President Zardari’s recent visit to India, our PM had asked him that what
    steps he was taking to curb terrorism in Pakistan. Zardari said ” Trust me, we
    are taking very serious steps to curb terrorism in Pakistan as you are doing
    to curb corruption in India “

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  • Anonymous

    Where have all these regulars and not so regulars gone.?

    Manohar, Shan, Ravi, Ashish, Mahesh, Balwinder, Dr. Mishra, Vinay.

    This blog needs different views from all of you.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    you have studiously avoided mentioning Sanjay.

    You think he is always present on the blog invisibly?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Sometimes I find myself unable to reply to the ‘innocent’ query raised.
    This is one of those times.
    (: (:

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay must be working overtime to fix the CD fiasco..
    May be Manohar too. (sorry, Manohar!)
    Balwinder had a health problem when he visited Agra, hope he is OK now.
    Dr Shnatanu must be helping out Didi or he may have found out his Satyaavthi.

    Ravi must be writing his seminal book “4000 Rapes and Devdasis, not ancient as they tell you”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gr8 Gopi

    U r turning out to be pretty pretty witty !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Very good one. I have to come up with more jokes as competition
    for me is growing.

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  • Anonymous

    Friends,

    I am in a deeply introspective mood right now after seeing the photos.

    Why, why did you, Dr.Singhvi, risk your life’s achievements for the sake of a few minutes’ rolling in the buff with a surrendered woman?

    What was your family’s fault? WHy did you forget about them?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @Shenoy

    Power aur Kaam ki hawas mein aadmi haiwan ban jaata hai. Quite possibly the woman might have said, “I am giving myself to you… and you can expect all judgments from hereon… to be similar…”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    We will still see Mrs. Singhvi coming out in defense of her husband as she
    would like to maintain harmony at her home.
    Long live Bharatiaya Nari.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    My feelings are with mrs Singhvi and one can empathise with her.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He must have seen his wife in the other woman — both sort of look alike, although the wife is quite elegant and classy looking (may be she was not giving “that” to him because his looks do not match hers!)

    Mohan is right; she will come in defence of him! long live bharathiy nari as he says

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~HAVE NO ILLUSIONS ABOUT CHANGED CIRCUMSTANCES ~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————-

    Well all of us ae vulnerable. Detection equipment have changed. Cams have changed.

    And men and women have changed. I know of cases where decent guys have been caught on cam by their friends and then blackmailed. We all know of the DPS guy who shot pics of his school girlfriend and circulated them around.

    Similarly they have been cases where call girls have shot their clients.

    So all of us have to be carefull….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    You are right about this. Few years back here in Dubai a school girl
    in her teens was tricked by her boyfriend and videographed her in a
    compromised position. She committed suicide.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    I think indians will have to come around to accept the new sexuality prevailing somewhere, even if they dont like it.

    In the Aarushi murder case in Noida, nobody, including me, is ready to accept that a mother and father– both educated could kill their child. But the CBI is now coming to that conclusion, now.

    Well looking back , in the end the parents should have reacted differently. Maybe tried to explain to the girl, wean her away from the servant… whatever. Difficult to accept. But then India is changinf for good or bad…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    I hope a sociology professor does some research into these unbelievable type crimes.

    One thing I notice is that there is more “honour of the family” type killings in the North or among certain groups in the North – brother killing sister (with the agreement of parents!), parents killing daughter (like this Arushi situation, to be proved).. May be there is more a “tribal” sense (affiliation with a group) there..

    I wonder if it has to do with the legacy left behind all the invasions……

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    You are quite right on this. North is backward in this matter and it reflects in the higher degree of female foeticide.

    I think it has partly to do with the interaction with the cultures of the invaders. Where female virginity and “purity” is valued while for males it is not so important. Now of course how are all the males supposed to be having it… unless they have some females as partners?

    There are double standards which will not be easy to eradicate.

    I think out here the role of a woman beyond Maa, behen aur biwi is still to be accepted outside of towns.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Ask a young boy what type of wife he wants, the usual answer will be
    Sati savtri type, and ask him about girlfriend he will say that she should be of
    Modern outlook, wearing short dresses, interested in clubbing and all
    such qualities. Actually we all are bunch of hypocrites.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think there has to be some evolution on this… now!

    hypocrisy was fine for yesteryears… now we need to move further on…

  • Anonymous

    Effects of marriage.

    Sher ki shaadi mein ek chuha naach raha tha. Dost ne Poocha tum kyon
    naach rahe ho? Chuhe ne kaha ‘ Aaj mere Bhai ki shaadi hai ‘
    Dost ‘ sher tera Bhai kaise hua ‘ Chuhe ne jawab diya ‘ shaadi ke pehle
    mein bhi sher tha ‘

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Good one.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Pankaj

    Gud to have u back.. Unfortunately now I am about to dose off… so definately will keep u in mind as a dialogue consultant…

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks Vijay for the offer. I am not as good dialogue writer as you presume. You will certainly have better ones. This being weekend, and as boss is not around here, I have become bold to tinker with keyboard.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Main hans hans ke sher ban gaya.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shenoy sahab;
    Good one.

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  • Anonymous

    Importance of being Fauja Singh .
    Read on about this amazing person at :
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fauja_Singh
    Search for him on You tube to find how un-believably healthy a person for can be even at 100 .
    p.s. for UK folks : Tomorrow’s London Marathon will see this person participate in the event (probably his last marathon before retiring from the long distance running events) . If possible, feel free to take your time off and meet / greet the person and be blessed with inspiration.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Fauj Singh is indeed an Indian legend who inspires the world. Een if we can’t run the marathon… we can at least try to run/jog some 200 -300 metres at keast everyday… just to keep our joints moving…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He is of Indian origin and currently a Birtish National.
    In either case, neither of it matters much.
    Also, there is more to running than just Joints.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well I try to run for 30 minutes daily and appreciate the effect it has on my heart rate, blood circulation, mental stamina and general well being…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good . Stretch the duration to 45 mins, 1 hour – whatever possible, add about 300 Skips (preferably using skipping rope) to those minutes of running. Have more fun.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Great. Keep it up. Running/jogging does wonders to the body and mind.

    I am proud to say that at 67, I walk daily from 6AM for one hour and then do exercises for a full fifteen minutes in Lalbagh, a 240acre botanical garden, one of the best in the world. It does wonders to the body and mind as also the soul!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well I run for 30 mts and walk for another 30, Nice to see birds in our stadium in the morning…

    And soetimes if time permists… some cricket or yoga or tennis… sab time ki baat hai…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    only to some Indians like you, it may ,matter little. But for the rest of Indians like us, it is a matter of great pride, because he is basically an Indian, which, he himself has not repudiated.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,
    I look for symbols of India at different places and don’t necessarily feel compelled to make strenous connections. I am surprised you bring repudiation here at all. A little curious – did you at all watch his YouTube clips ?

  • Anonymous

    So Didi now wants to have her own state newspaper and state TV to fight against others who spread “bad news” about her and her administration!

    Her citizens can eat news food instead of real food!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In ‘THE DIDI TIMES’ paper, she can print all the bad news about herself, her party and her state on 12 pages fully blacked out and four pages which will include all the good news all over the world and Saurav Ganguli’s victories in the IPLprinted on white paper.

    This way the readers will have a “wide choice”.

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan,
    Back to Amazon topic…..
    It is not just about Amazon turning into Monopoly. There is more to it here.
    The kind of capitalism we are witnessing has gotten way more complex , complexity being not just the operations but consequences as well .
    During early days of 2008 Financial crisis – a popular argument was made about regulatory framework lagging behind the development. In that sense – the picture is far more murky in this part of world . Plus the social safety net is very weak. This complicates the situation much much more. We may not even know what hit us – or is already hitting us.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What is hitting India currently is maoism and protests.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    mahesh

    Regulation is always behind innovation. It is always enacted in response to a problem caused by innovation – for example the balance sheet requirements, derivative restrictions, asset securitization limitations etc for the U*S financial institutions in response to Wall Street meltdown

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,
    While I agree with your argument at its face value – recent history has been at variance from it and hints at lack of willingness to regulate, which IMHO is a bigger problem . Notice – despite severe problems – the regulations on financial industry have not been exactly forthcoming.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yaar, Mahesh,

    here the Ganga is on fire with seedy CDs spreading havoc and you are talking about the distant Amazon.

    Are you also affected by the Singhvi bug which has kept all the trolls away from the blog?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Uncle ji,
    I am sure – with all these years in life – you know the difference between spectacular and devastating .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    Complex solutions with complex operations for the simple problems will
    bring complex consequences. Ultimately, IMO everything boils down
    to human nature which is prejudiced, egoist and mainly selfish. Me and my family first. 2008 crises came into focus with Lehman Brothers going down.
    This entity was allowed to go down because of personal grudges but AIG which was facing similar or perhaps bigger problems was saved by US government. What led to this crises was pure greed. Rules and systems
    were overlooked/flouted by various agencies like banks, hedge funds,
    internal and external auditors and rating agencies. Should the blame for all
    this be borne by capitalism or the people who do not follow the ‘rules’
    laid out by this system.
    One of the reason of weak social safety net is also because people
    responsible are more interested in their own welfare while overlooking
    the welfare of the state and its people.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    I am not passing “wholesale blame” to capitalism. My argument has been about the complexity and our inability to grapple with it. Plus also the lack of willingness.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh capilalism keeps evolving. The net has got us to talk on this forum … so you cant blame the net for Amazon using it to sell. Main part is the taxes … which country gets them.

    The other part is smaller businesses need to keep playign smartly and keep evolving.

    All big retailers eventually buy from the small guy.

    Many of the big malls in Delhi have collapsed, but the colony grocery shops thrive. There are many twists to this tale.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,
    Regulation is part of that evolution you are hinting at.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Regulation needs to keep evovling.

    The biig guys too keep tumbling. That is part of evolution.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Can you be a bit clear here ?

  • Anonymous

    Saw movie Vicky Donor, nice different movie. Punjabis and Bengalis will specially
    like this.

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  • Anonymous

    about Bihar CM – Brookigs Report…
    ttp://www.brookings.edu/opinions/2012/0320_nitish_antholis.aspx

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    Something wrong with the link, unable to open.

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  • Anonymous

    Classic example of a life partner.

    Someone who will stand by you though all the troubles which you would
    not have had if you had stayed single.

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  • Anonymous

    Missing people from the blog.

    Mohan commented about some people missing from the blog. I have a feeliing that 2-3 of them might have been shamed by the latest seedy CD. Maybe they are trying to find a BJP and Modi link.

    here are a few lines they can work on

    a) The Driver was BJP, paid by Modi

    b) The female artiste was BJP and linked to Modi

    And now the mother of all conspiracy theories

    c) The Principal actor and party spokesman starring in the CD , was BJP agent… out to defame the Congress !!!!!

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  • farid

    I think she is sick and needs treatment.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    who? the camel or the captain?

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  • Anonymous

    Can you control your urges ?

    A new army captain was assigned to an outfit in a remote post in the
    African desert. During his first inspection of the outfit, he noticed a camel
    hitched up behind the tent. He asked the sergeant about this to which he
    replied ‘ Sir, as you know there are 300 men on this post and no women, and
    sometimes men have urges. That is why we have this camel. Captain said ‘ I can’t
    say that I officially agree with this, but I understand about urges, so the camel
    can stay . ‘ After about a month the captain started having his own urges. Crazy
    with passion, he asked the sergeant to bring the camel to his tent. Putting a
    ladder behind the camel. the captain stood on it, dropped his pants and had a
    wild sex with the camel. After he was done, he asked the sergeant ‘ Is that how
    the men do ?’ Sergeant replied ‘ Not really sir, they usually just ride the camel
    into the town where the girls are.’

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    Anonymous Reply:

    :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is wild and a beast of a joke!

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  • Anonymous

    Bengal is funny and thrives on victimhood.

    As per the mail today report it needs 22000 crores for sevicing debt and it generates revenu of 21000 crores only. It is loath to raise taxes but keeps blaing the centre.

    it has money for starting a TV channel but will not have the strength to change the work culture…

    The TV cahnnel will continue tales of victimhood by centre… other states, global capitalism… etc etc.

    So much for the mamata’s merciless revolution….

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  • Anonymous

    Abhishek Manu Singhvi’s sex tape was not doctored. IT WAS LAWYERED!

    http://indiawires.com/10098/featured/singhvi-sexcapade-media-as-a-protective-condom/#comment-7000

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Good comprehensive article.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Interesting part is the same media found a Modi link in the Nityananda sex tape, as per this article.

    That is why I think the media is prsently silent and is brainstorming on how to find a modi link.

    Dont be surprised that by Monday suddenly 1000 media men jump like monsoon frogs and start shouting, ” Modi Modi… when Manu singhvi was doing it… he was moaning… Moo moo aah aah… daa daa iiiiii..
    In case we do a precis of the moan… it will sound like Modi.. !”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    you are right. I can give the required fodder to the congress mills:

    Modi’ cook belongs to Darbhanga in Bihar from where Abhishek Manu Zing-vi’s driver too hails.

    And my information is that Modi gave, through his cook, Rs.1crore to the driver to prepare a genuine CD, which is now in India Today’s possession.

    Modi, Modi, half rape, half consensual sex!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Beautifull spin!

    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS

    A very good analysis.
    There is another relevant item about Nityananda that w as not widely published. The root reason for going after him was his refusal to sell his property ( in a prime location in a Chennai suburb) to Karunanidhi DMK guys.. he was threatened, he reported to police, and police would not do anything, except persuade him to give the property away.. the CD came after that. My understanding is that Jayalalitha govt has now a case regarding this attempted land grab and the police inaction.

    Obviously UPA has the power to silence media so swiftly as they have shown here in the Sanghvi situation. I wish they deploy this efficiency in other matters too- like CWG stadium, army procurement, food distribution…..

    Looks like even Manu Joseph has been bought out (he was on his way to be bought out after Radia –he is no more in the poor journalist club)..

    Now my question is whether a third party can file a case about the alleged conversation about the judgeship sale now that the driver has admitted the CD is fake?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi, Vijay Kumar, Mohan,

    all of you will like this one:

    Abhishek Manu Zing-VI sexcapade video wasn’t shown by the media because it comes under UPA’s RAGACHY – “Rajiv Gandhi Ashleelata Chupao Yojana”!

    And the paid media followed it.

    (I hope Ashish reads this).

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Even Congress leaders will like this. Thy don’t care about the yojana as long as
    it is named after any member of Gandhi family.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gr8 one !

  • Anonymous

    Mohan-

    here is the link.. Hope the guys in India can comment on this

    http://www.brookings.edu/opinions/2012/0320_nitish_antholis.aspx

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    Anonymous Reply:

    gr 8 article. I think Nitish could well be a fantastic NDA PM.

    Why narendra modi and Nitish succeed is becasue they dont have to feel inferior to a dunce prince or follow norms of family sycophancy.

    Nitish still has to show us how he will get big ticket FDI in and as well as get industrial production going in a convinceing manner.

    BUT BUT,,, BUT…

    For all who scoffed against my in depth analysis against family rule…

    Nitish is far far far far better than the Lalu and Rabri dynasty whih bought down Bihar to the lowest levels of poverty….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    A very good article. Under Nitesh Kumar Bihar has see a tremendous positive
    change. My nomination for future PM will go to Modi, Jayalalitha and Nitish Kumar .
    Any of these three will be great for the country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good one – my parents live there. I could see the changes in the state (as mentioned in the article) when I visited them last.

    Thankfully, poeple are appreciating good work and rising above their caste to vote for him and the NDA alliance.

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  • Anonymous

    After Agni V, we have this seedy CD of Abhishek Singhvi, which has put a new ZING in the sex life of congress politicians. So he can be given the title of ZING-VI.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    great!

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  • Anonymous

    BVS

    After seeing the picture of his elegant wife, I have this feeling that she does not give “it” to him, he being so-so in looks and a bit older…….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    honestly, my heart refuses to accept that Abhishek had to seek “it” from a fellow lawyer. How did he face his wife after the CD became viral on the net? Can he honestly tell her that it was dactored or that it was lawyered? The media, being pliant, has accepted the ‘doctored’ verdict. But is his wife so gullible?

    I believe she is a sufi singer.

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  • Anonymous

    I have a theory – Sanjay is Abhishek

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well where has sanjay gone… or is he reading this and smiling?

    Would generally love to have his reaction on the CD business.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He is Abhishek….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Does this means that this blog has become so famous that an important
    person from Congress could not stop himself from participating ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    This blog certainly is pretty popular. I lnow a lot of people who read it without commenting. As far as Sanjay goes I dont think he is Abhishek as he himself was surprised by the CD, the day it was released.

  • Anonymous

    Where have the birds gone? (especially the bird that announces “Vishu” in kerala) – environment, globalization, consumerism, land use…

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/open-page/article3340120.ece?homepage=true

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  • Anonymous

    Ghadha Sherni se ” Darling I love you ”
    Sherni ” Chal phut, Shakal dekhi hai ”
    Gadha ” Shakal ko maar goli, neeche dekh neeche”
    Sherni ” Oh my god, .. I love you too darling “

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  • Anonymous

    Let me shake up things a bit !! :) :) Vijay style…

    Have the Sanghis… the so called Sanghis and accused to be Sanghis, finallly won that the family worshippers and COngressis have gone into hiding and have no face to show??? :)

    C;mon guys, If you have surrenderd, your silence would be eloquont. If you have still some arguments left… raise you hand and say that you still have life.

    Or maybe is the CD shaming everyone into silence that “Iss par kya spin lagao… yahaan toh sach obvious hai…”

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  • Anonymous

    @ Gopi

    Now that we are in a generally quiter period of the blog, let me throw up an issue and get an answer from you — based not on your opinion– but in the historical context.

    The core issue of nationhood. What defines a set of people to stick together as a nation.

    Now let me expand this a bit. Take the british. Their own families are splitting wide open– with kids being born to single parents, , but they look up at their royal family as some sort of great entertaining representative of Briton. They may have ruled the world by dividing, but in the end will not be able to hold scotland or Ireland in the UK, when the percieved attraction of the British royal family goes down.

    We have seen the Soviet Union splitting from what Stalin stitched it to become. Czechs tearing theslves into pieces, Canada often shakes with French and English at loggerheads,

    Closer home many of us beleive tht the already split Paksitan will only achive peace when Baluchistan and Sindh separate.

    The US too is facing a challenge to its core values of global domination thru capitalism and God as its saviour.. Though probably because of the vary nature of the melting pot… will not face internal challenges.

    So.. let me throw up this question. What finally gets people to stick together…as a nation?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    Good question.

    I do not think there is a single element or a universal element. A lot depends on experience, pain, history, values etc etc. May be we can take three countries – the oldest democracy and one of the youngest countries -USA, one of the smallest countries -Israel, and us- India.

    Americans are one of the most patriotic in the world, although may be more than 50% of its people are fairly new there, with their ancestors coming over to there in the last one or two generations. Founding fathers are revered there. Historians like David McCullough even now write about obscure days in the lives of Jefferson or Adams, it becomes a best seller, people buy it in droves. Elections are fought on the “vision of founding fathers”. Chinese Amricans, Hispanic Americans, Japanese Americans etc join the military and fight for the country.

    So, as far as USA is concerned, the root belief in the right to liberty, life, and pursuit of happiness binds people together from all over the world who migrate there. There is a belief in institutions, rule of law, work and reward, individualism and community etc. A country without much history improvises history with Washington’s story about cutting the tree, or a sleepless night Lincoln had etc..Museums and “historical places” preserve and cultivate the connections. So, the American glue is the shared sense of the constitution, the freedom that emanates from it. Young people fight and die in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan for this “freedom”.

    Israel is a different situation – for Jewsih people all over the world it is a Phoenix out of the ashes of 2nd World War, out of all the historical prejudice they say they experienced from time immemorial. So, it is a country claimed by not only Israelis, but all Jews all over the world as their ancient land God gave them. The “semitism”, “zionism” functions as a glue, rather than any constitution or any great notion about humanity or man – because if they believed in any great notion they will not be subjugating the west bank and other settlements.

    India is different from these two, I will put it in a continuum between these two.
    I will provide my theory and analysis later. But if you are worried about a scenario of undoing the nationhood, I would say it will not happen. I would further say that if at all it were to happen, the seeds were sown in the constitution by Ambedkar and co, and the seeds grew into plants (more like weeds) later by the actions and inactions of the people who came after.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Wonderful. As usual brilliant analysis. Will eagerly wait for your post on this subject
    on India, the country because of which without knowing each other we all are still glued
    together on this blog.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohanrr;
    Agree.

    Anonymous Reply:

    MOhan your jokes will definately hold India together and make it rock…

    Anonymous Reply:

    VIJU

    That is a brilliant observation – I second it

    Anonymous Reply:

    Great answer and a lot of food for thought. So it really is some common strand which excites people.

    US does manage to get its migrants ready to fight for it, though at times migration is subject to first enrolling for its army. Still it remains the country to have gone for most wars based on ideology— korea, vietnam, Kuwait, Afghaniztan (where it went becasue of a hit). The list is long.

    One thing obvious is the sense of excitement it creates because of its percieved values– whether liberty or whether hard cash, and the acceptance it gives to the migrant.

    Isreal has been created out of a vacuum of a historical injustice embeded in the jewish mind.

    India… well it really did become a complete nation after Patel pushed the reluctant Kings into a certain direction, otherwise many of them would have chosen a wrong path. Today corruption is also a negative factor which is common to most of india now… !

    I think we need mechanisms for continous creation of excitement for nationhood. Just a passing thought…

    Would love to continue the discussion…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    will elaborate tomorrow — going to sleep now..

  • Pankaj#1

    All;
    Now you are regreating, I warned you people not to hit too hard. What is this blog without them.This peace feels like a peace in a cemetry. Ravi, Engrich, Manohar, Sanjay and Mahesh. ..Tum sab ko chhod kar aa jao, aa jao, sab kuchh chhod kar…

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    Ravi Reply:

    I am far too busy giving blow jobs from the gutter.

    It is mightily difficult to talk when one’s gob is being pounded by a phallus.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Important also not to talk as somthing can be bitten of.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ravi;
    No body can CONTROL no body. It is for individual to check oneself. You know, I had been there, and I understand than many people, why a particulatr language is used. it is to intimidate, and if one gets intimidated, it is one’s weakness. I can, I hope so, put people on defensive, without using derogative words. In certain situation, even I will be intimidated for a moment, but then, I will find my way around. I was not coming to blog, for excessive work myself. It is weekend, and I am comparatively free.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,
    He is just making excuse. The team is embarrassed about Singhvi episode and don’t want to comment on it.

    This is their old tactics..

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Rajeev;
    Yaar, ab kaise samjhhaun tumhe. Please do what ever you want to do. I am not a sympathiser of present day congress or it’s grossly corrupt avatar of present. Now it has become king of financial, moral and political corruption. My congress was different. But bagair rakeebon ke jindagi main maja nahin hai. Ranjish hi sahi….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,
    My comment about BJ was metaphorical. He usually sucks up to the person who provides him protection on the blog.

    As far as Congress is concerned, this party should now get dissolved as per Gandhi’s wishes. It has extracted a very high price from Indian for the freedom it won under Gandhi.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    You are right here Rajeev, about dissolution of Congress, as wished by Gandhi. That visionary had seen future.
    I also know, that your reference to BJ was metaphorical. In my youth, I was quite prone to move to physical violence after verbal, hence perforce, I taught myself to remain calm, even in the presence of verbal duels. That was a mazboori and necessity to go forward in life.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I really value your advise but I am a veteran blogger who posted on Pakistani forums for years so my style has always been aggressive. However for last few years I have realized that I should worry more about Indian matters than its foreign relation. Our country is being royally screwed by Sonia Gandhi and gang.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    ‘Bagair rakeebon ke zindagi mein mazaa nahin hai.’

    Sahi kahaa aapne.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes all Congressis are very embaressed. Even Singhvi had talked about the Chaal , Charitra of the BJP when commenting about the Gujarat non porn scam. Seems God delivered a boomrang.

    For me the big story will always be, whether the position of the judge was being offered to the lady. And whether to get the position, she chose to make Singhvi “happy.”

    Of course the side issue will always be on what the senior icons of the Congress would have thought of fornification in court premises. Imagine Gandhi, nehro and Patel were all lawyers…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji, Rajiv, Vijay Kumar,

    all this levity of fake Ravi, about giving blow jobs to engrich is sham effort at hiding the deep embarrassment and paralysis the Singhvi-Zingvi sexcapade has hit them with.

    The fact is these congressi naukar-chakars are a deeply shamed lot, much as they are shameless in these matters.

    And these trolls are very well aware that bloggers like Shoeb, Ashish, Vinoo, Vinay, AAloke etc are all occasional bloggers, as against these trolls, who, along with Vinodji’s proxy, are accounting for more than half of all posts here.

    Anonymous Reply:

    A very poor excuse..You have been absconding from the blog for far longer.

    You and your supporters co-ordinate your postings on this blog. When Congress is in gutter, you all go silent and come back when it is safe.

    By the way, if you don’t come back ever on this blog, I’ll certainly not miss you. Who misses a terrorist sympathizer?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    Agree with you. We need all of these on this blog, so what if our views differ.
    Naarazgi chodo aur vaapas a jao.

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  • Anonymous

    Feeling sleepy now…

    Ab tumhare hawale hai yeh blog saathiyon…

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  • Anonymous

    Folks , I had decided to abandon India , after ashish posted something about NRI’s and their feeling for India. Somehow it feltlike somebody holding a mirror. It is true “Do I ever want to come back and settle in India ” , Sadly the answer is No .The reason being , we are perceived as FOREIGNERS.also having lived for so long in the west , your sensibility changes , YOU REALLY CAN’T GO WITH THE FLOW. and the wretched poverty all around becomes unbearable.The FACT IS IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING “the crabs” won’t let you.
    As far manu sanghvi’s BLOW job is concerned , IT SHOULD BE END OF CONGRESS. But the BJP’s silence is breathtaking, PERHAPS IT HAS TO CONTEND WITH THE 10YR OLD MAID RAPED AND BODY FOUND IN THE BOOT OF GADKARI’S CAR WITHIN THE PRECINCTS OF HIS HOME.
    Planning to visit barcelona.
    I will be nice , thus use the name Vijay Khanna , and remind him of his lecture ON DECADENCE OF THE WEST.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thank you for remebering me shan. Well mamta has been disappointing. Now do we not need sensible, scientific parties organised in a democratic manner, rather than personality cults?

    I still feel that her 3-4 years, before she collapses, represnts a window of opportunity. Free enterprisers, software guys, businesses need to zieze this opportunity to change the mindset from marx to montek. Otherwise Bengal will hurtle back to CPm and 1912

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,

    NRI – Non required Indian , Not respectable Indian, Non reasonable Indian.
    I have heard these terms for NRI’s regulary and some people have even used
    more deregotary words for us. In the beginning this use to bother me but now
    I just don’t care. We should not let such comments affect our life and most of
    the time people who say this actually do not mean it. Nobody can stop you
    from your decision of abandoning India, however I will just repeat those famous words,
    You can take an Indian out of India but you can never take India out of an Indian.
    I have always valued your knowledge on various subjects even though I have
    differed with you sometimes. The beauty of this blog has always been different
    views and different style of expressing those views. Your ‘arrogant’ style is completely
    different from others which I am sure no body will be able to match.

    Holy Macaroni , sorry if you feel I am preaching. Just keep blogging.

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    AshishC Reply:

    Shan,
    I think my point was misunderstood. Let me make the point again, more clearly.
    At the outset, I was an NRI once- I came back. When I was abroad, I did not make so much effort in staying in touch with “what’s happening back home” as many of you do. And, that includes you, Ravi, BinoyHegde, RajeevS, Pankaj, Mohan… in fact, even Balwinder- his interest in India is strong.
    Mohan, I would never use clever play of words to poke fun at the NRI community. In fact, true to style- I learnt all these epithets from your post :) All in fun.
    One thing stuck me when I lived abroad and socialized with fellow NRIs; most of them had very strong prescriptions:
    1. Nuke Pakistan
    2. Military is probably the only solution for the “mess that is India”
    and so on…
    I can tell you that I have never met someone like Ravi; ever abroad. Which is why, even though you would not know it from the ways I go after him on this blog, I love him. He, to me, is everything my beer drinking comrades in Lan Kwai Fong or Clark Quay were not- way more evolved, erudite and beyond 30 second soundbites of 9 pm news TV. That is not to say I agree with him; I mostly don’t.
    It takes a lot to be at peace with your identity as an Indian in UK- or USA or Singapore or HongKong for that matter. I also submit, India is changing at a pace that is difficult to imagine for folks living abroad.
    I am on a sabbatical :) from the blog- came back today, by chance and saw your post. Cheers and bye for now..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish,

    Nice to see you back after a long time.
    Believe me you were not in my mind when I wrote those terms
    for a NRI. I used those because I have heard those many times.
    I don’t know about other NRI’s on this blog but my visits to India
    are quite frequent I agree with you that India is changing at a
    very fast pace. Not only economically but living style and thinking
    is also changing at a very rapid speed. Please don’t take your
    sabbatical for very long and come back to this blog soon.
    I am still waiting for your views on land reforms of Bengal.

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  • Anonymous

    Pankaj & Mohan

    I appreciate your concerns and have made an appeal for all the missing members to return. However, you both are in a minority here.

    Agree, the silence can be killing for some. Ths blog has not been completely silent, as the others have made a lot of noise regaring the Abhishek Singhvi.

    Pankaj, you are wrong that most of us,if not all, have been intimidated into scooting from the blog. I can speak for myself that I have been more than a match to anything that has been thrown at me and whenever I felt like it I have returned enough knock-out punches. Too frequent punches takes away the effectiveness and the surprise element.

    AFAICR, Ravi (a ‘fake’ and ‘jehadi’ to boot) & Engrich (‘ISI trained jehadi’) have been away from the blog for quite sometime, before the CD controversy was reported. I will not speculate as to why Sanjay (a ‘congressi troll’ ) has been absent, must be busy or gone on a holiday or whatever, I do not know. With these people away for whatever reasons, I (another ‘congressi troll’ with the tag of ‘family naukar’ as an additional qualification) decided to go into a silent mode and watch the proceedings from the side for two reasons. 1) To check the state of the blog and 2) more important whether I could stay away from the blog. (Vijay & Co. need not believe me and I do not expect them to do so – they can keep attributing any motives they can imagine, who cares).

    What was the result? The absence has been attributed to the fact the ‘congressi trolls’ have been embarrassed and shamed into silence and there has been total unanimity among Vijay, Gopi and the other usual suspects on this count. Worse, they even imagined as to what the missing members were upto with the whole group having a good laugh. CTs, anyone? BTW, no such questions have been raised about Ashish, Vinoo, Shoeb and others. How can they? After all, they belong to the group and must have real noble and genuine reasons for staying away. It does not bother me, just pointing out the duplicity of the people.

    In the last 80 odd posts, about 40% of the posts have been on Abhishek Singhvi & the CD. Does it speak volumes about the lack of intelligence quotient of the ‘group’ to debate different topics and subjects? To me, it sure does. The reason is not far to seek – extreme juvenility and intelligence deficit. Was I unable to comment upon it? No, for me it was a non-issue, just as the BJP MLA’s caught with porn in their hands (those with short memories and/or selective amnesia, can go back several blogs and look).

    If the absentee members do not return or do so irregularly, then what? One side can claim total conquest of one more citadel (Vinod Sharma’s Blog, no less) with the ‘enemies’ being annihilated. The group then surely must rejoice. Peace reigns, no dissent, no disagreemnts, no alternative narratives thus making debates infructuous, add more spice to the posts and the most important no need to abuse anyone anymore. No more Modi, RSS and BJP bashing either. Talk only goody-goody about the BJP and Modi and talk only baddy-baddy about the ‘enemies’. All hunky-dory and having a good time. One more addtional ‘bonus’ – fewer number of posts making navigation easier. The most common phrase would be ‘I agree’ with lots of claps. What more can one ask?

    Having stayed away for 4 days, did I miss it and have the uncontrollable urge to hit the keyboard. I didn’t. There have been many interesting news/articles in the newspapers and on the net for the past 72 hours or so including a few re: Modi bashing, which I could have posted links to. I resisted the urge.

    To all ‘active’ members, enjoy your newly conquered kingdom for whatever it is worth.

    Pankaj and Mohan – thanks for your kind words.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon Manohar. Look at your own postings about me. I kept quiet for at least 30 jibes and then gave a gentle reminder that the truth is ultimately bigger than ll of us.

    I am consistent in my opposition to terror and opposition to compromising with terror supporters.

    I am consistent in having a participative democracy and not a familycracy or a naukercy, where spin is created to justify generation after genretion of a family indirectly stating that 1.2 bllion Indians are dumb and need to be ruled by people with superior royal genes,

    I a consistent in wanting to make Congress clean, democratic and a national jewel. The Party of Dadabhai naoroji, Sardar Patel, Nehru and Gandhi. I would have the same standards for the BJP.

    I find Modi modi rape rape, now predictable, boring and the last weapon off obfuscators. If the topic id Dev anand… we hear modi modi. If the subject is mamta… it is modi modi… rape rape… A bit of a ho hum.

    I know you want to single me out for our disappearence. But look at your own jibes against me. Alone, with Ravi and Mahesh, while siding alng with Sanjay..

    You see I was a foot ball goalkeeper in school for two years. Apart from Painfull hits on the nose and the balls… being a goalkeeper teaches you to keep your post intact… :)

    I claim no personal victory on our leaving. I only say that maybe you dont have the answers. Dr Singvhi’s sex CD is so symptomatic of the Congress. Keep shoting Modi Modi… but indulge in yaun uthpeedan. Is the issue not important?

    a) Desecration of court premises.

    b) Offer of judgeship on personal favours.

    Even if there are 500 posts on it, I think we need to solve a problem and debate it out here. now you may say that blogging does not solve problems. Well in my view, ultimately we blog to find answers for ourselves, at least…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Abhishek Manu Zingvi has despoiled the sanctity of the supreme court itself by having exploitative kind of forced sex with a female collea
    gue (thank God it was a female!)

    If preople, including Vinodji’s proxy, Sanjay, made fun of Karnataka MLAs for watching a porn clip on their mobile, this Zingvi action play is all the more reprehensible and condemnable.

    All the time he is on this blog, this congressi troll haqs alwayts sided with the confirmed anti-nationals like Ravi and engrich. We may hold nationalism, national integrity, national unity and democracy etc sacred and sacrosanct. But not he and his fellow oseudo-liberals and pseudo seculars.

    If half of Kashmir was allowed to slip out of our hands, so what? what is so big about a piece of land? This is how their argument goes.

    If democracy is crushed under the jack-boots and emergency is imposed, so what? Are the trains not running on time?

    If 169 people are killed in Mumbai, so what? Was it not a saazish by the RSS?

    If Naxalite terrorists are killing people with chinese arms and ammunition, so what? Are Maoists not our own people?

    This kind of pseudo arguments get fitting reponses from a host of people, some mild, some harsh, and some others abusive.

    Is being abusive worse than being anti-national?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I cannot give you my detailed opinion now but would like you to stay on this
    blog. There is no fun if there is no difference of opinion. Everyone expresses his
    disagreement of the views in his own style.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    I understand your dilemma. There were few preemptive strikes. My commiserations.

    Thanks for letting me know that you wish me to stay on. I really appreciate it. We will see about that, it is early days.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    About this Singhvi story. If this was only a sex between two adults than it
    was a non issue, a private affair between them, but if he is promising her a post of judge in return for sex than this becomes a serious national issue.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Who knows what actually happened. The audio of the link provided was not clear to me, could not even follow one word/sentence. If someone can post the actual authentic transcript, then we can talk.

    If he has got an injunction, there is no reason for the opposite sides not to appeal in a higher court of justice.

    If you must know, I have not made any comment either on Sanjeev Bhatt’s insistence of his presence in the meeting called by the Modi in 2002. Nothing has been proved one way or the other.

    If you have noticed I have hardly ever talked about things which are in the realm of speculation. At most, one can only wonder.

    Why do you all insist that I pass a comment on a topic? Are you all looking for some stamp of approval from me? Wasn’t enough (40% of the posts) was said? If I have chosen not to comment, people have already drawn conclusions about me and are gloating about it. They can be my guests. BTW, the abuse and labeling continues.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Nothing happened. We shouldn’t ask you to defend him.

    I hope the media also uses it as a benchmark to report similar stories – injunction or otherwise.

    Waiting for your links to other happenings around the globe.

  • Anonymous

    With Sanjay gone, you must have noticed that posts are not getting deleted anymore.

    As far as Manohar is concerned, he is congress sympathizer but not in the league of Sanjay. I have always enjoyed reading his views and he has been honest enough to accept mistakes of congress unlike other two.

    He need not band himself with people like Ravi or Sanjay.

    Manohar need not be TONGUE-TIED on Singhvi.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Pankaj

    Thanks for reminding us that the Congress is not even a pale shadow of the organisation it was once.

    Let us appeal to Vinodji to use his pen and position to make the Congress a national jewel again by denouncing naukercy and corruption….

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  • Ravi

    Manohar & Ashish

    Many thanks

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are welcome.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    what are the thanks for? for doing the disappearing act?

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  • Anonymous

    Khafa Rah Kar Tum Bhi Na Rah Paoge
    Jaan To Jaegi Hamari, Saans Tum Bhi Na Le Paoge
    —————————————-

    Sapno Se Dil Lagane Ki Aadat Nahi Rahi
    Har Waqt Mushkurane Ki Aadat Nahi Rahi
    Yeh Soch Kar Ke Koyi Manane Nahi Ayega
    Abh Humain Rooth Jaane Ki Aadat Nahi Rahi
    ————————————————

    Now to change the mood.

    An old man was heard telling his friend

    Pehele jab woh mere baal sahlati thi to mera ‘hathyar’ khada ho jaata tha lekin
    ab woh jab mera ‘hathyar’ sahlati hai to mere baal khade ho jaate hain.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Ashish

    I think you sensed along with me and many others that Mamata was a hysterical disaster waiting to happen.

    I still feel that she represents a window fo opportunity to change the Pashchim Banga mindset from Marx to markets, before her government collapses without completing the term.

    I am sure you can set up a marketing/development centre for your software there, and push your other bong friends in Delhi to do the same. Even if you get 5 people onto the road of enterprise, it is five people less on the road to disaster.

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  • Anonymous

    Few days back we are discussing about RTE bill . Government had claimed that
    every school has to admit 25% from the poor section of the society.
    Please go through this article to understand whether government is really serious
    in helping poor children to get educated.

    http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2012/04/15/is-the-right-to-education-quota-really-for-the-poor/

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  • Anonymous

    NDTV has a great story on Gujarat becoming th Auto city of Asia.

    Sad that Mamta dorve Nano to Gujarat, where Puegot, Ford and other cmapnies have now followed. Ultimately we need to create industrial potential so taht India matches CHina

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mamta drove NANO to Gujarat and Obama drove Modi to China.

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  • Anonymous

    Ultimately blogs are more fress spiritied than ordinary conversations and reporting. We need to live with that….

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  • Anonymous

    NDTV also has a report that APJ Abdul Kalam may just make it again as the President. That would be great news as he represents the true face of Muslim India, a role model, a gentleman, a true nationalist. In one sense it would bring closure to the brutalisation of the Muslim mind in the UP elections by parties which wanted them to be shepherded along a path of isolation.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Welcome back Pervez. So where did you disappear? I hope you stood in the elections and won… !

    yes you are right, that APJ represents the best of India.

    Sadly, scientist ABDUS Salam, a nobel prize winner represnted the best of Pakistan, yet was dishonoured in Pakistan for being a ahemdaiyaa.

    We have had a faceless Pratibha who spent 206 crores in foreign travel and is still travelling till the end of tenure. She is now grabbing land meant for housing 800 jawans in Pune, to get her own palace built.

    Now we again need a president who inspires India and not put it to despair.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The right place for her to stay for the next 5years would be Tihar jail!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    dr Kalam will be great! Children idolized him as a hero/role model. He represents what India is all about.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Maualyam was a big supporter of dr Kalam last time. Maulayam has agreed with the notion that the President should be a non-political person.

    Kalam will be the president if he and Trinamol support.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I think only kalam can tweak Mamta’s ears and tell her brutal truths

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I think only kalam can tweak Mamta’s ears and tell her brutal truths

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Parvez,

    as a sambhar-eating veggie South Indian, I am already feeling as if I am at the gates of Rashtrapati Bhawan!

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  • Anonymous

    Viju

    We discussed nationhood, the glue that binds etc etc , and decided to look into three democracies – US, Israel, and India. We briefly covered US and Israel; and left India for another day (..we are all blogging late into the night; I am getting old for this!)

    I will take a profound lie uttered by a British civil servant in mid 19th century and go backward and forward from then.

    John Stratchey, an eminent British civil servant, who was an acting viceroy, who served for Lord Lansdowne, Lord Mayo, Lord Lytton; in his book “India: Its Administration and Progress” (1888) stated: “This is the first and most essential thing to remember about India – that there is not and never was an India……” This was the mantra taught to the incoming officers!

    This self serving colonial narrartive suited to the British policy of divide and rule, it inanely survives, an often repeated urban myth (or by our secularists) even now is that India is a nation of British creation….

    More to follow….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx Gopi. It was an immensely satisfying discussion.

    Gopi, one of the first forms of attack of the British imperialism was to demoralise the opposition. They probably wanted to equip their soldiers and civil services with the feeling that you dont have any and won’t feel any opposition when you rule India.

    Of course the statement that there was no India is contradictory as the British themselves created an East India COmpany to come here!

    More tellingly, geographical boundries probably did define a state South of the Himalayas. The warring kings fighting to rule over this entity too defined an India. The epics of Mahabharat and Ramayan too were set in this land.

    In the end the rivers, the language and finally Patel’s shepherding act… did define some nationhood.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    viju

    yes.. valid points..

    A cartographic vision on a map doesnt make a nation.. what is in the hearts and minds …

    Will elaborate

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I have maps made by the British in 1812. They have dimensional problems and give distances wel fo from todays estimation. I doubt whether Indians had maps in 1700’s

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I have maps made by the British in 1812. They have dimensional problems and give distances wel fo from todays estimation. I doubt whether Indians had maps in 1700’s

  • http://twitter.com/from_too_far ishwar jha

    Now that he has quit, let the issue rest.

    I’d miss him though as I am missing sanjaydhawan here.

    I was having trouble posting with “Disqus”. Hence posted with my twitter ID. Others facing similar issue may log out of “Disqus” and log-in with choice of IDs available.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, India has finally got into the cadre of other “advanced” countries..

    That a driver has the courage to intimidate the most powerful lawyer in the country..

    Who is he kidding???

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    in other words, Modi has shown that if he puts his head (and cash) to anything, he can make anordinary Bihari driver become the Giant killer.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    whenever the issue of sleaze in high places comes up, Abhishek Manu Zingvi will always be there to enliven the proceedings.

    The issue will NOT REST.

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ MANU SIGNHVI SENT PACKING BY NETIZENS !! RESIGNS !! ~~~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————

    The spin did not work this time. Stories of morphing and dragging the BJP into the picture also did not work. Singhvi has had to say goodbye from all his posts.

    Byeond sex between consenting adults, the basic issues still remain

    a) the woman had wanted to become a judge. Her name was on the list. Manu Singhvi was in a position to influence

    b) Was the act performed in court premises?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This should definitely be investigated

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  • Anonymous

    Another interesting observation on the “new communist China” –

    Wen Jiaabo, PM of China is in Europe on trade promotion and to discuss European bailout.

    Kerry Brown, head of the Asia Program at the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London, says about this visit – “China’s leaders don’t understand the logic of putting hard-earned Chinese money into supporting the SOCIAL WELFARE (caps mine) system of Europe”

    Mao’s China turning its back on social welfare! We are living in a wonderful time.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Good Comedy on Times Now.

    All of us know there are two real issues.

    a) Quid pro quo. Offering judgeship for BJ

    b) Whether court presmises were used for fornification. Arre baba court is the temple and masjid of the people. If urges take over, how can you spol the temple ot masjid. Is it not right that you book a hotel and get over it?

    Vinod Sharma was enjoying himself and insisted that he was nuetral as he was not part of the CD.

    Where is Sanjay? Will he emerge after the Congress shame is over?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Good Comedy on Times Now.

    All of us know there are two real issues.

    a) Quid pro quo. Offering judgeship for BJ

    b) Whether court presmises were used for fornification. Arre baba court is the temple and masjid of the people. If urges take over, how can you spol the temple ot masjid. Is it not right that you book a hotel and get over it?

    Vinod Sharma was enjoying himself and insisted that he was nuetral as he was not part of the CD.

    Where is Sanjay? Will he emerge after the Congress shame is over?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Disqus is dead… totally gone under siBBal mode of censorship as it first directws the post to a moderater.

    Better to use facebook right now…

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Disqus is dead… totally gone under siBBal mode of censorship as it first directws the post to a moderater.

    Better to use facebook right now…

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  • Anonymous

    MOhan

    From Times now

    Vinod mehta, Arati jerath and SIddharth nath Singh are saying exactly what I was saying. Public office cannot and be sold for sexual favours.

    Morphing wali kahaani bahut funny ban gayi hai !! If it is morphed all of us should fight for his protection from blackmail. how can we let a driver with a morphed CD blackmail a Parliamentary representative?

    Come let us protect the poor guy form blackmail and let us probe the morphing.

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  • Anonymous

    Disqus

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  • Aditya Choudhary

    You hating Narendra Modi is really like an ant
    pissing on an elephant. The ant feels happy but the elephant doesn’t
    even feel.

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    Arun Madhav Reply:

    Lo, you just squished the poor ant’s huge ego… Hats off Aditya.

    To the blogger – All Anil said is “Gandhiji dreamt of taking the benefits of growth to common man and NaMo is helping realize Gandhiji’s dream” – this is a 100% true statement… You can take your blog “butter up” and shove it up your posterior *******. Thanks.

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    Gujarati Reply:

    After this article I am pretty sure why she was showing Gujarat in bad light before elections this lady is mentally s!ck.Gujarat is much better in terms of rural infrastructure than any large area state in India.All people referenced in article are either anonymous who are most probably imaginary characters or opposition party people that Nirma cement plant thing the person (Former BJP MLA) who lead the fight Kanubhai Kalsaria was given a humiliating defeat at hands of BJP candidate(margin was quite big between them(55000 for BJP 37000 for Congress and 10000 for Kalsaria)).I can bet if Modi remains in Gujarat than even in 2022 election congress would be confident of not getting majority in Gujarat

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    Hardik Reply:

    Kanu Kalsaria wasn’t only defeated, he lost his deposit too. Anyway – people like Sujata – Who were shouting on rooftop and predicting modi’s defeat before election; have now caught up Anil Ambani.

    By Sujata’s standards – all industrialist who attended Vibrant Gujarat must be non-secular people.

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    anil Reply:

    Well said.

    After being used to the life slavery/chamachagiri for so long it is only natural that these people will never find any motivation to appreciate any high spirited leader. They are more used to the darkness of night and not the brightness from sunlight.

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  • Raj

    Looks like a mad guy with only intention to shout loud. watch out the so called Media…people no longer believe in so called cooked up stories. The information in internet is vast and uncontrolled …the days of biased and hate news originating from Media houses are getting numbered. Take some rest moron

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  • Mohammed Hussain

    Pathetic Article written in sleep….I am a complete neutral just for the fact i happen to travel length and breadth of Gujrat for last one year…The development work of Roads,Gas,Street lamps,Bridges,Industries,Power etc etc is everywhere and its STUNNING as a US person said…..There is some problems with some reporters like the one above…Who are paranoid and have to just find some identity that can only be received from Bashing someone all there life…He has won election Handsomely please give him a break and take a break…..God bless you…Find some other meaningful articles and things to do…..

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  • Reddy

    You are just a drop in the sea.

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  • bluewrox

    biased…am no real fan but if ratan says it again and again and people vote again and again…it can’t be make believe…so give some credit…if not all…and note that all this verbal diorhea made no effect on him over the last decade…he has grown more stronger…so stop this silliness…no point…

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  • pankaj#1

    Sucheta;
    Khisyani billi khamba notche.
    I hope you understand some Hindi.

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  • pankaj#1

    Sujata Dukhnandan.

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  • Penn Temp

    What a non-sensical article. Sour grapes, miss Ananthan?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/gargvivek10 Vivek Garg

    One more by crooked media…what a desperate article,,how author sleep at night

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  • Observer

    Seeing CQ monkeys upset, lament or cry makes my day

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  • Babu

    Grow up man!!! Please!!! Do you just keep waiting all your life to write something awfully baseless about Modi? Can’t you change your attitude at least after all these years? After seeing him elected by this own people for the more than a decade again and again democratically… For god’s sake, please read what Anil Ambani said in his speech. He spoke about the leaders from Gujarat. He never compared anyone with Gandhi. Seriously, you media people are like dogs, barking all the time at a rising sun…. failing to understand that sun’s rise is just natural and you can’t do anything to stop it…. i feel sorry for you..

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  • TRUTH

    IT’S A NON SENSE ARTICLE WRITTEN BY A FOOL….MODI IS THE CROWN OF INDIAN POLITICS…..HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS WORTHY TO LEAD INDIA, AND INDIANS….THE REST ARE “CHUM CHAS” OF THE ITALIAN MAFIA…

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  • Anil Dubey

    I do not understand Sujata Anandan’s point here. Either she thinks readers are all idiots or only she has got brains. I read the statement of Anil Ambani. He has mentioned four people (Mahatma Gandhi, Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel, Dhirubhai Ambani and Shri Narendra Modi). Now you did not object to other observation ? Do you mean to say Mahatma Gandhi and Sardar Patel very of the same nature and type ? Do you mean to say Gandhi and Dhirubhai Ambani were of the same thought ? Neither of the four were equivalent to each other but they did bring the contribution of Gujarat to CENTER STAGE. Mahatma Gandhi by helping us gain FREEDOM from British Rule, SARDAR PATEL in supporting the FREEDOM struggle and UNITING the COUNTRY right after INDEPENDENCE (IRON MAN of India), DHIRUBHAI AMBANI for showing that INDIANS can be world class entrepreneurs and great FINANCIAL BRAINS and then NARENDRA MODI for proving to the world that INDIAN can also EFFECTIVE GOVERN themselves. Anil Ambani can be called an opportunist (as all other industrialists can also be called the same) but he is NOT SYCOPHANT of anyone. He is a BILLIONAIRE and not dependent on sycophancy to SURVIVE. Get yourself educated. Seems like you are SYCOPHANT of CONGRESS and other DIVISIVE forces that are boot licking Sonia Gandhi and her son Rahul Gandhi. Shameless blogger.

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  • Ramesh Kumar

    Gandhi was an apostle of peace ,never won Nobel Peace Prize.In his life time millions of people were slaughtered during partition ,but he was apostle of peace.
    Millions died during his life time in communal violence ,which ,he could not prevent but he was apostle of peace.
    He said partition will take place on his dead body ,it took place ,he never even fasted.
    Allowed lakhs to die in Bengal Famine ,but what can apostle of peace do.
    MODis much better.

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  • arpita

    corrupt khangressi media never going to be change.

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  • AKS

    I used to like your articles but lately they have become one sided and biased. I have never read an article from you when you wrote something negative about Sharad Pawar or Congress. Your journalism is completely focussed on attacking BJP and Modi (and praising Pawar regularly). I am no fan of Narendra Modi but he deserves some credit for winning election continuously. If Gujarat was doing that bad and people were unhappy, he would have lost but nothing like that happened despite Keshubhai leaving BJP.. I don’t know if you are looking for a RajyaSabha membership from Congress/NCP . Many journos got their way to Parliament by doing that kind of reporting.

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  • sam

    whoever the author is, man this article sucks from top to bottom and is begging for mercy, no words on the sheer nonsense stuff written here, i am sure the author like Vinod Sharma has to making a living on Congress payroll, hence write anything and everything, whether it makes sense or not, pity people who stoop so low in life. No doubt India all these years has suffered due to people like this author of the aritcle, we are like those frogs who keep pulling each other down and die their own death.

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  • TRUTH

    SOUNDS LIKE SOUR GRAPES…..MODI IS THE CROWN OF INDIAN POLITICS….AND THAT IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH…

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  • Sujataisat itagain

    Ms. Anandan- I must appreciate and praise your intense and almost pathological dislike for Mr. Modi. I am assuming the ambassadors of Japan, China, UK, the industry moghuls are all idiots that they have flown in to attend this meet. In any case, who do you mean when you say that ” people would return Gujarat to Mahatma Gandhi and not to Narendra Modi.” Who do you want Gujarat “returned” to? Ms. Anandan- next time; how about you try to “bump” into some Modi supporters for a change when you visit Gujarat? Everyone you meet seem to hate Mr. Modi- yet he wins 115 seats! Amazaing!

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  • Avtar

    Mr Anandan,Please get your facts right and tell the truth.Gandhi participated in the Boer war in South Africa,fighting for the British in which thousands of Boers were killed,especially in the concentration camps set up by the British.Also you are tell the ultimate untruth or shall I say lie that India achieved independence without a drop of blood being spilled thanks to Gandhi.I say to you ask the people of Punjab and Bengal who were massacred in their millions thanks to the policies and hypocrisy of Gandhi.

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  • Pakko Gujarati

    What a crapload of jibberish. I want my 10 minutes back.

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  • AUM

    sujata being a writer you can not be that ignorant , but you are , anil compared him with gandhi as visionary so read understand and then write, I know you are a paid journalist but readers know the truth , which you do not shame on you HOW MUCH ITALIAN WAITRESS AND LEADER OF ANTI NATIONAL CONGRESS PAID YOU?????????

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  • Rao Fakir

    Sujata, likeTeesta Shit_alwad etc have some anti-national agenda. …Anil Ambani was taking about great men born in Gujarat and he named Mohandas Gandhi and Sardar Patel and now Modi. If one is rational, this statement is not act in sycophancy (as Anil Ambani has business in all states…not just Gujarat…if he believes in sycophancy, he would need to do more to the Congress Govt. which is in Power at center)…each of these have given something unique to India:
    A) Gandhiji: catalyzed India to freedom (but also resulted in partition of India and dealth and displacement of 3 million Hindus and Sikhs
    B) Sardar Patel: There were many Jehadi Minded Princely states in India such as Nizam State and Junagadh who wanted to join Pakistan by remaining independent…Sardar Patel made sure that India did not any more region that it had to from West Punjab to East Bengal
    C) Narendra Modi: He is the first CM in Indian history who is providing corruption-free and able administration and has been recognized as the state that has highest Economic Freedom.

    So these three Gujjus, Gandhi, Patel and Modi have made equal contributions…first helped the freedom struggle, second made the current India possible and third is developing a state like no other. Hope Modi goes to center and repeats this across all states of India so that she achives the glory it deserves.

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  • chantibabu

    He may not be same as Gandhi but he is better than Gandhi in this modern age. No on else comes to close to him in getting this country on right track. There is no leader in Congress or BJP who make this country better. In fact most of them are their to loot this country to the max.

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  • MHA

    This is important line in this article “People of Gujarat are convinced that their state now belongs to the very rich – like the Tatas and the Ambanis.” This is rich people’s world, who care the poor communities. If we like to make whole India like this then sure elect Mr. Modi as a PM of our great country. In this situation, sooner or later majority of the people (that represent more than 70%) of our country will become slave and controlled by these corporate world with the help of these self centered leaders. Thanks.

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    ctscan Reply:

    You are absolutely, right!

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  • Para

    How do give a negative rating to an article . Hopeless one . And rubbish comparisons.

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  • Jai-Hanuman

    Ambanis have spread the corruption all over India. Gujarat is the most corrupted state. Modi’s aspiration for the PM job is basically the Ambani’s agenda to loot the entire nation and store it in Gujarat.

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  • pg

    Keep it up HindustanTimes, you are going to gutter.
    Home of Dalals Rajdeep Sardesai, Vir Singhvi and ilk…

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  • http://twitter.com/payojg Payojism

    I guess you met with a lot of interesting (and imaginary) people, because believe it or not, just a few days ago he won a landslide victory. Now, what I want you to do with that fickle brain of yours is try (though I doubt you will succeed with all those delusions) to work out if a crore people are utter fools, or if you are an evolved genre of our species with collective wisdom of millions.

    As for your title, he can be compared to Gandhi, for Gandhi too like him, was a Gujarati who brought the state (whose people you feel are vegetables that cannot think) on to the world stage. You know, there is a reason you are writing this article in the first place.

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  • Hardik

    Absolute truth is – no one cares your opinion. You should thank modi that due to his name in it, at least people are reading this blog..

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  • Balachandran Nair V

    It is disgusting to see that anything and everything said or done by Mr. Narendra Modi is seen only in bad light only. I fail to understand the reason for Sujata anandan’s hatred towards Mr. Modi. It is the ability to practice what he preaches that make Mr.Narendra Modi
    different from other politicians. What the country needs is a leader with
    farsighted vision and willingness and capability to fulfill that. No
    wonder those who manage big institutions praise Mr. Modi. I hope India
    will be lucky enough to have Mr. Narendra Modi as it’s next Prime
    Minister

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  • Raghavendra

    Ms Sujata i thought your level of thinking and intellect would improve one day but you keep writing on things which should be forgotten.

    let me ask you 1 thing.

    is Anil ambani significant enough guy to be given so much coverage for every words he says. he is a cut throat businessman who would praise any CM who helps him in his industrial ambitions. i feel it is very childish of you to take Armani’s praise of Modi so seriously.

    whole of India knows that Sujata anandan would never want Modi as PM of this country but let Indian voters and elected political parties decide on it.

    so dont try to impose your feelings on others let Indian voters decide whom they want.

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  • Kangress Hater

    WOW. Is the author really this ignorant? Or is this farticle simply a paid piece from the author’s Italian waitress boss? The Kangress party is responsible for the impoverished, corrupt and dysfunctional country India is today. That useless party and the dim witted dynasty that forms its center have cursed India like an incurable disease. Modi is India’s hope for a prosperous future. If socialism, corruption, power shortages and a neutered military where even rifles and bullets are imported please continue to vote Kangress, Ack thoo!

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  • Seeker

    Shows how the standards of Indian journalism have declined with this crop of low -IQ writers…There are many many folks across India who would regard Narendra Modi as among the Top 3 or 4 Gujarati stalwarts ever born. If you have a problem with that – then write a cogent article as to who else you would put in the Top 4 and why you would prefer that person over Modi. Complaining like a second-grade student that industrialists are trying to “butter up” to Modi, is just sheer imbecility !

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