Abiding images of UP polls



Elections often leave behind abiding images such as those captured after the Congress’s stunning defeat in polls after the Emergency. Carried on the front page of a prominent English daily of the time, a photograph that said it all was of a dustbin stuffed with Congress posters with Indira’s face peering out. A sweeper’s broom rested on the side against a wall full of poll-time graffiti.

The message it so tellingly conveyed was that of the party that ruled India uninterrupted since Independence being swept aside and consigned to a trashcan. The longevity of its impact is evident from my recollection of it three-and-a-half decades after the Congress’ rout by the Janata Party.

What then would be the lasting image of Election-2012 in Uttar Pradesh? Rahul’s oft-sported, oft-shaved stubble, Priyanka’s campaign with her children in tow, shrouded elephants and statues carved in stone or Mulayam son Akhilesh Yadav in a red topi addressing crowds from atop a bus?

To my mind, an image that told a lot more was that of BJP workers carting Uma Bharti on a chair to a public meeting. Why? Apart from telling the saffron party hasn’t moved with times since the 1992 Babri episode, the photograph showed the party’s Gen-X was already over the hill, what with Sushma Swaraj being a sporadic campaigner owing to ill health and Nitin Gadkari— who couldn’t bear the summer heat and had fainted at a public rally after taking over as party chief— struggling still to lose weight.

A small eater that he is, LK Advani looks, and perhaps is, fitter than most of his junior colleagues. But his mass appeal has dwindled since the heady days of the Ram Janmabhoomi movement. The only BJP leader in robust health and an enviable electoral record, albeit mostly in his home state, is Gujarat’s Narendra Modi. Even his detractors rate him highly as an administrator.

But Modi’s image crisis since the 2002 Gujarat pogrom is likely to haunt him for the rest of his political life, regardless of what Courts think of his role in the post-Godhra violence. For want of even a hint of an apology or admission of dereliction of duty, his sadbhavana mission, perceived as an attempt at cultivating an inclusive image, is unlikely to cut ice with “secular” groupings the BJP will need to sew up a formidable anti-Congress front.

The BJP cannot therefore delay talent-scouting or assigning bigger roles to youthful faces that are credible and inclusive by saffron standards. Arun Jaitely perhaps can replicate Atal Bihari Vajpayee on the strength of his political acceptability, legal acumen, parliamentary skills and organizational prowess. What diminishes his curriculum vitae is that he hasn’t ever won a Lok Sabha seat.

In that limited sense, he’s comparable as much with the Congress’ man for all seasons, Pranab Mukherjee who first got elected to the Lower House in 2004 despite the long innings he has had in politics.

In the line after the Jaitley-Swaraj duo, one does see some promising faces such as Shivraj Singh Chauhan, Raman Singh, Ravi Shankar Prasad, Shahnawaz Hussain, Gopinath Munde, Anurag Thakur, Nirmala Sitharaman, Prakash Javadekar, Smriti Irani, Navjot Sidhu and Kirti Azad to name a few.

The question remains however whether they have it in them to dominate the national stage? Can any one among them contest against Sonia Gandhi the way Sushma did? Can they become the party’s one man army in Parliament the way Jaitley does as Leader of Opposition in the Rajya Sabha?

It’ll be unfair to pass early verdict. But the BJP appears to be in dire need of fresh blood to match the emergence of Rahul, Akhilesh and Jayant Chaudhary on the UP scene. Doubts on that score were laid to rest by Uma Bharti herself, who called herself as Rahul’s bua (paternal aunt) while flagging Sonia’s foreign origin on being painted by her son as an intruder from Madhya Pradesh in UP.

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  • Anonymous

    A large number of youngsters do not know much or care about Godra/whether Modi was involved. The only thing they see is that Gujrat is far better than nay other state in development, growth, jobs, business, wealth etc.

    keeping Modi tied to Gujrat and not leveraging him all across India is suicidal for BJP.

    I do agree with Vinod that BJP should build a cadre of leaders.

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    engrich Reply:

    in cities inflation has increased while in ruler areas poverty has increased.their indicators for poverty in rular areas are wost than orrisa.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Only place doing well in the world is Saudia and Libya and of course Muridke and Mingora

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  • Anonymous

    @ Vinod ji

    I think my visits around Meerut, Noida, Greater noida and ALigarh in the past two months have given a similar impression. BJP has not fielded young faces who would capture the imagination of people. It needs a Jaitley type guy who is articulate to cme to the forefront.

    On the negative side, Vinodji, did you notice that it was all about caste and religion… most of the time?

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  • Anonymous

    BJP should do following-
    1. Start dynastic culture.
    2. Have a high command not answerable to anybody.
    3. Buy journalists.
    4. Induct some foreign origin leader if possible from Italy.

    This is the only way BJP can become acceptable to media.

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  • Anonymous

    Vinodji,

    you started this blog under the heading “Abiding Images Of UP Elections”.

    But by the second para it has turned into BJP bashing and in the later paras, sacksfull of gratuitous advice as to which leader is good and who is “over the hill” etc.

    With so much free advice for this party I have begun wondering why they are not opting you as their media advisor.

    And with so much of goodwill oozing out of some of the better-worded sentences, why do people still call you a Sonia lackey?

    Very unfair.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think this is one of the more balanced blogs. Though it does target the BJP for being out of sync with the current situation in UP and lets the reader know that the Yuvraj and Priyanka are he lasting images of this election.

    my own visits into UP confirm the opinion that the BJP will only get votes in places where people are reacting against religious reservations or its most loyal urban male supporters.

    Not so much becasue of polices or agenda they could have announced.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shenoy Sahab;
    It was obvious that Vinod can not praise BJP. His assertion that Modi’s 2002 image will never leave him is his wishful thinking rather than reality.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shenoy Sahab;
    It was obvious that Vinod can not praise BJP. His assertion that Modi’s 2002 image will never leave him is his wishful thinking rather than reality.

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  • Anonymous

    Abiding images of UP election—

    Priyanka Vadra, in a response to a reporter’ question, says “the row between Salman khurshid and the EC will be sorted out — these things happen in elections…”

    Only in India!

    Who is she?????

    The reporter asking the question, the newspaper printing it, and more importantly unfortunately we the consumers of the news are all to be blamed…

    Just like Congress has a vested interest in keeping Muslims backward, I think the media has a vested interest in maintaining the Gandhi family rule

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,
    The problem is that our media was nurtured under Congress culture and most of them are most comfortable with Congress as they have excellent contacts in Congress and also know how to work around in Congress & receive favors such as land, apartments, Rajya Sabha seat, padamsri, ads, position in some commission, media advisor role etc.

    I find it amazing how media is carpet bombing us with pro-dynasty news everyday. All you hear and read in media is Rahul’s hardwork (whatever that means), Priyanka’s charisma, Sonia’s tears and now Vadra’s divine utterances. Why is media so biased? I expected Sharma to condemn Law Minister Salman Khurshid but he chose to blog about how bad BJP is and how good and democratic congress is.

    Just few days back JD(U) approached election commission complaining about excessive media coverage of Nehru-Gandhis.

    As far as muslims are concerned, they are shrewd voters. They vote tactically for the party who is in position to defeat BJP. Their only aim is to limit clout of hindus in Indian politics.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hi Rajeev,

    If Bihar can keep the Laloo/Paswan and Congress out, why can’t the electorate in UP do the same? Is it:
    a) only the lack of a face in the BJP? or
    b) the people can’t think beyond their caste/religion? or
    c) both

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Ishwar

    UP is too big man in size yaar. The only way a political party can connect is to have a caste and communal issue. The issues from Noida to baliia are as iddferent as Chalk and cheese. The only thing common are emotive “I am you castre or religious saviour…”

    Anonymous Reply:

    Bihar could only though out the caste and communal Lalu and Paswan after it was made smaller by disseccting of Jharkand

    Anonymous Reply:

    Division is no solution. How are going to improve basic character of people who are morally rotten to the core?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Believe me everyone is rotten in life. And everyone is good in equal measure.

    It is the conditions around you which make u choose a certain path.

    I did some project work in dehradun. Believe me it surges ahead after the breakup of Uttrakhand from UP. People know their MLA and haul him up.

    Elections are on very very local issues. Like Road or the water problem. Or bribes being asked in the local offices. The caste and religious factor has gone out of the window.

    Remember that was the poor side of UP once.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hi Ishwar (feel like addressing god :) ),
    UP is very complex state and its political and cultural landscape is very different compared to other CIVILIZED states of India. The people in UP don’t have any identity except for their caste and religion. You must have heard of Bihari pride but have you ever heard of Uttar Pradeshi pride. The people in UP have no love for their state. This lack of attachment is the prime reason, UP politics is all about Caste and religion.

    You will be surprised to know that during 1991 ayodhya movement, Yadav sided with muslims during the riots because their loyality was with caste-bhai Mualayam.

    BJP is failing in UP because caste politics is the reality of UP and too woo muslim votes you have to play religion card. BJP lacks both at this moment.

    Bihar can improve, Jharkhand can improve but UP has no hope because people in UP are morally corrupt SOB.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dear Ishwar,

    Bihar also went through terrible phase when Lallu won three times back to back.It was even worse situation,Combination of Caste and Religion was at it’s worst. It needed depth of their fall and availability of viable alternative in shape of Nitish-BJP combine to change matters.Maybe that is what will happen here. Division of UP in four parts can definitely help. At least one or two parts may be able to do well.Even though Mayavati proposed for division in her own perceived interest , but it may be the right thing to do.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Rajeev

    He is not reprimanding Salman on TV right now. Smiling that his uncle Dinesh Goswami mde the model code of conduct. Is it not so Vinodji?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Rajeev and Gopi

    Since I know a bit of the land and the construction scene let me tell you a big “not so secret.”

    the first thing a Cm does on getting his/her gaddi is to announce a housing scheme for

    a)Judges of HC and SC

    b) Journalists of all shapes and sizes

    If I were to give details it would end up beng 50 pages for the National capitl region alone.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Rajeev

    Any guesses in how many years would certain vote hunting politicians start talking about separate religious based electorates?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    After religious reservation, next step is separate religious electorates.

    Looks like Jinnah was always right. After 63 years, we are proving Jinnah correct that too thru Mahatma Gandhi’s Congress. Isn’t it ironic?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I keep hearing soft voices then and now on this. Had a heated arguement with two nice liberal journos (including an attractive bong girl for Shan’s info) who thought that nothing wrong in reserving a certain number of seats in Parliament for minorites as there are anyway some reserved seats and minorities are undereprented.

    Well since it was in my house… I could not raise my voice… but I made sure I served desi daru …

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  • Anonymous

    I am in Bangalore today. Met Shenoy and spent few hours with him. Talked about this blog
    and many other interesting things. A very fine gentleman. Would love to meet him again and next time hopefully will spend more time together.

    Shenoy,

    My wife and I had a wonderful time together with you. Would love to see you in Dubai as
    promised by you. Thanks vm for the hospitality.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Nice to hear that.

    Fake Ravi

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Was it the original or the fake who posted this from Mingora?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I’d like somebody to meet Ravi? Who is planning to go to Kabul?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Does he wear Khaki knickers? We all know Ravi wears Gol topi and Tahamad.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gr8 to hear that Mohan

    Bet you must have exchanged some gudd jokes!

    And also discussed some of the jokers on this blog including me…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev/Vijay,

    He was difinetely not wearing anything khaki. We did talked about almost everybody
    on this blog, wish we could have spent more time together. It was very nice of him
    to take out time from his busy schedule and meet me. Would love to meet other fellow
    bloggers also whenever opportunity arise.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    I am jealous of you. You could meet Shenoy sahab but I could not. May be next time, when I visit Bangalore, he will be more -Meharban-.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Bad move..You may be labelled Sanghi by Congressi-Jihadis members of this blog.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    I am jealous of you. You could meet Shenoy sahab but I could not. May be next time, when I visit Bangalore, he will be more -Meharban-.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    Does he own a Cow? What about Trishul or picture of Bharat Mata? Does he wear Tilak?

    I am asking all this on behalf of Congressi-Jihadis.

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  • Dr Mishra

    An officer and a gentleman””””

    Thank you Mohun for sharing this meeting. After years of reading bloggers’ comments here, one gets an idea about their personalities. Politically, I disagree partly with some bloggers and majorly with others, in fact there is not a single person here I have not disagreed with at some time or the other.

    But two things attract me to someone here 1) Their knowledge and their wisdom to apply it well 2) Their decency and their love for the country.

    Somehow I always knew that Shri shri Shenoy, as I jocularly refer to him, would be a GENTLEMAN in real life and Mohun you have confirmed that. I like his wit, particularly the way he takes apart Ravi and Shan. How I envy you your lunch and how I would have loved to eavesdrop over your conversation about others.

    I hope one day I will meet the interesting ones here, they know who they are

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    Ravi Reply:

    :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    is this the so called funny reposte?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Panditji,
    I am sure you belong to UP. Just wondering if you do panditgiri as part time job in UK.

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    Dr Mishra Reply:

    and Rajeev- your comment below was just too funny, i am still laughing –
    ‘I’d like somebody to meet Ravi? Who is planning to go to Kabul? ‘

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    Ravi Reply:

    Not half as funny as the one I posted

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Fake Ravi,

    after how “stinkingly funny” your long posts were fouind by other bloggers here, you are now trying your hand at short “funny” posts.

    Sadly, the result is the same.

    Anonymous Reply:

    dr mishra

    i posted two items from new york times that may be of interest to u

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  • Anonymous

    It’s now more than 48 hours but our PM is yet to reply EC on Khurshid.

    Now the question is “Is Sonia going to allow MMS to take any action?”..Looking at Priyanka’s (informal acting PM just like her mother and brother) comment, it looks like Khurshid has green signal from SoniaG, Supremo of Fascist Congress party.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Actually, Sardar Man Mohan Singh has grown his mustache and beard so much, that it covers the tape put on his mouth by the party supremo.

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  • Anonymous

    On a serious note, we all know Mr.Neutral Shan lives in UK. If he can personally meet Ravi and tell us about his real identity, it will definitely improve atmosphere on this blog.

    Shan, do you accept this challenge?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Rajeev

    I dont think that would be enough. There seems to be two of them as in a true jasoosi film. The Mukhota may make a public appearance. The real brain and the handler would be in Tora Bora….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    By neutral, what do you mean?

    Ravi has been shown by Balwinder to be a fake, a pretender, sometimes as a Mona Sikh and other times as a Hindu.

    More than anything, his posts reveal, as nothing else, that he is a jihadi, fired with the Wahabi spirit and determined to destroy anything that is good in India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When I say neutral, I mean Congressi-Jihadis listen to him and so on the other side (sometimes).

    Shan is the only one who can slam Islam and muslims unchallenged on this forum. Even Engrich keeps Shan in good humour.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I agree with your explanation of neutrality of Shaan to mean non-alignment with any religion.

    engrich is scared shitless taking on Shan Nirad Babu because when it comes to abusing the prophet and his holy book, nobody can beat the Anglophile.

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  • Anonymous

    Dr Mishra

    You will like this… the video of the dance competition follows
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/11/nyregion/indian-classical-dance-tea

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  • Anonymous

    @Binoy hegde , Pankaj#1, RajeevS, Ravi, ManoharT , Mahesh , and whoever takes interest in matters ECONOMICS.
    First RajeevS asked to me reveal my identity. ENOUGH have been displyed , THAT I AM A SURGEON ,THUS DONT SUFFER FOOLS GLADLY ,ask any psychologist
    Also as someone said “I have nothing to declare except my intellect”
    GUYS THERE WAS AN EQUIVALENT OF AN EARTHQUAKE ON THE TV SCREEN
    more precisely PANORAMA PROGRAMME IN BBC1
    The title was AMERICAN POOR.
    It JARRED MY SENSES.
    Okay it is TV , looks DRAMATIC , but FOLKS these are REAL FOOTAGE , not actors
    first a CAVEAT , POOR Definition, American dictionary , OBESE, no dietary defficiency , HAS GOT CAR , LCD TV , NINTENDO ETC BUT NO HEALTH CARE , NOWHERE TO LIVE , but scavenge or get handouts .
    MY YANKEE BLOGMATES , please confirm
    They showed the extensive underground passages underneath the bridges and roads in LAS VEGAS.There lived a MILKY WHITE GUY with his wife/girlfriend.
    he lived in a makeshift bed and all the utensils etc.HE USED TO HAVE A PROPER JOB AND USED TO LIVE IN A FLAT, now the job gone thus flat gone . What he did for survival was begging.
    But American style. He was distributing cards to the people heading for casinos . with his story written on it, and asking for money.
    ANGLOSAXONS ARE DIFFERENT BREED , THESE ARE NO MISHRAS AND SHENOYS AND SANDHUS(,essentially inferior race so far i am concerned)
    THEY HAVE TOO MUCH PRIDE LEFT IN THEM , they will toil , go hungry
    BUT WONT BECOME THE SCUM LAZYBONE CPM CADRES OF WESTBENGAL
    Next WAS HEARTWRENCHING
    This is RURAL TENESSE
    People queing in their CAR (oh yes everybody has a car) about 500 of them at 0200hrs(yes you are reading it correct).
    The news had gone out that DOCTORS ARE COMING IN THE MORNING FROM OTHER PLACES TO PROVIDE FREE MEDICAL CHECK UP in the community Centre.So they are let in one by one in the morning.
    One guy works in the construction (In indian parlance it would be labourer)
    BUT EARNS ONLY 5000 DOLLARS PER ANNUM(US bloggers please confirm the veracity). He has a LARGE , and as i could make out a scrotal hernia.
    Obviously he has been sitting on it for years. Now this place can only diagnose.
    For surgery he has to go to hospital , he has NO INSURANCE , anual average insurance costs 30000 Dollars/annum.Thwe cost of surgery without insurance is 20.000 dollars. The wife was trying to control her tears BUT NO REVOLUTIONARY RHETORIC COULD BE HEARD (this is ANGLOSAXON PROTESTANT FOLKS)
    Next is MICHIGAN . In USA the STATE IS NOT BOUND BY LAW UNLIKE UK TO PROVIDE ACCOMODATION.
    Thus TO CUT COST HUGE TENT CITIES have grown up iby the side of MOTORWAY OR HIGHWAY as they say in America. the council have erected 500 tents and packs all the prople who do not have home AND THEY CANNOT KKEP UP WITH THE DEMAND.
    The last was a guy who used to be CAR MECHANIC , he lost his job , but true anglosaxon character , he has taken up a job , but with that pay he cannot afford the rent of a proper house. So he lives in a down and out area MOTEL with his wife and three kids packed into one room. These American kids , a seven yr old was so mature , he can eat alive a 16 yr old indian kid.
    He said he fears all the sounds of gun shot all round him.
    Again the wife was barely able to controlher tears , yet said hopefully we will be get out of this place soon(OH YES THERE WAS NO TALK OF JIHAD)
    Apparently 1% of americans control25% of wealth. Thus the movement WE ARE THE 99%.55 million americans hAVE GONE HUNGRY AT SOME POINT IN ONE YEAR.
    The programme showed schools providing meals for children at lunch break
    AND PACKING FOOD FOR THE WEEKEND FOR CHILDREN TO TAKE HOME.
    Detroit looked worse than Beirut , TOTALLY DERELICT , ABANDONED , CRUMBLING
    No Wonder Indira gandhi used to took a pot shot at PHONY GEEZER , gurcharan das .She told “Here comes a MARKET WALLAH” ,meaning jihad for market economy.
    As they say ALL THAT GLITTERS IS NOT GOLD
    i still beleive MIXED ECONOMY IS THE BEST AVAILABLE ECONOMIC SYSTEMA
    But that’s for another day

    33% americans do not have a health insurance

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr Shan-

    Most of this is correct.

    USA is going through the toughest, worst economy since the great depression. unemployment is 9% (with real unempoyment at 20% or so if you include people who are not looking for job after a sarch for one year).

    Real Estate market is way down; with house prices 20-30% less than early 2000. 35% of the mortagges are under water – outstanding loan balance much higher than the property price/valuation. 2 million houses were on forclosure last year, with a similar number projected for this year.

    It will be wrong to attribute the problem to capitalism/free markets. The problems were caused by

    - a total lack of regulation in the financial segment , resulting in real estate speculation, fraudulent loans, fraudulent loan securitization etc

    - inadequate/low reserve requirement for banks

    - hollowing of manufacturing, and the increasing outsourcing of white collar and high paying midddle class jobs

    - decline in unionization

    - regressive policies of republican administrations, both at state and federal levels

    - two long wars fought “outside” budget , without any compensating tax

    - Bush tax reduction

    the list goes on

    You are right, many people do not have health insurance — Obama wanted a federally funded insurance, but the right wing will not want any of that. He lost the house of representattives in 2010 mainly because of his push for federal insurance.

    And now there is a widespread fear abouta Greek/Spanish type meltdown with the national debt close to 4 trillion $ .

    Too many problems; but nobody can solve with the two party system here ..

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shan;
    did not feel like answering to you as you are expecting answers from Yankees. Meaning of Yankees is US citizen, from north-East of USA, particularly from New England and descendents of English settlers in that area.

    nevertheless, a short answer is not out of place, though Benoy has replied to you in some detail. Cost of insurance is about $ 600/ month per person and that will make it some thing like $ 7200 per annum. I believe, cost of surgery for hernia should be around 5-7 thousand dollars. how about sending him to India, where for 1/15 of US cost, he can get 5 star hospitality and first class surgery. Like many other services, health services can also be outsourced and they are being outsourced. Accountancy and legal services are being sent to India in large scale.No kidding. Detroit is poor and dangerous. But ford has come back strongly and hopefully, detroit will again see better days.I believe, accumulation of wealth is necessary for progress but not hoarding of it or stashing it in foreign country, as revealed in HT . Bill Gate and Warren buffet, like Azim Premji are also examples of from rags to riches and extreme philanthropy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like you are from Detroit suburbs.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A $2500/- sum can cover his hernia operation and travel costs if he comes to Bangalore. There are hungry doctors and willing clinics who will perform a splendid job on a shoe-string budget.

    Sai Baba hospital in Bangalore and Puttaparti do free heart and cancer operations in their hundreds every month. But for this there are long queues.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,
    You got me wrong. I want you to confirm Ravi’s identity. Looks like you both live in or around London.

    I am convinced about your identity. You sure are a Bengali Doctor..I can see all symptoms of that in your posts. :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A doctor himself showing symptoms of illness.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A retired grandee showing signs of SENESCENCE

    Anonymous Reply:

    A doctor himself showing symptoms of illness.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    America borrowed money from China and had DIwali in Iraq.

    However your Nirad CHoudhary type fascination for Anglo Saxons is clouding your judgement of seeing them as equals. Go out with some white chicks and get over it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    every book that you read in your college on structural engineering were by ANGLO SAXONS, YOU COULD CARE TO MENTION ONE BY A PUNJABI /KHANNA et al

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I read a huge amount of books by Indian writers iincluding Punjabis in engineering.

    By the way you are talkign to one Indian engineer who you as a doctor may need to read for medical theory.

    Anonymous Reply:

    some names please , otherwise time for M G ROAD

    Anonymous Reply:

    G B Road your fanstasy place is named after an Anglo saxon Mr gariston Bariston who pitched his tent (actually) to be with the whores.

  • Anonymous

    Watching Sharma debate SIT report on Modi..Sorry to say but WHAT A DHAKKAN!!!

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  • Anonymous

    BRAKING NEWS——-BREAKING NEWS
    ————————————————————

    VALENTINE’S DAY CANCELLED
    ——————————————————-

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Blame it on RSS.. :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    On RSS and vedic maths!

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  • Anonymous

    HERE IS A POSER: (Mohan, please note)

    Q : “I Love You” Ka Janam Kahan Hua?

    Ans: China Mein,
    Qyonki Iski Na Koi Warranty Hai Or Na Koi Gurranty,
    Chale To Chand Tak,
    Nahi To
    Shaam Tak.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I thought ‘Poori Raat aur Subah Tak’.

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  • Anonymous

    Vinodji

    Your articulation regarding the BJP’s makeover to make it more relevant and as an alternative to the Congress has been tried a number of times by political observers, experts and commentators since 2009, so that it can occupy the right-of-centre space. Three years have passed and it has not happened.

    Perhaps it will not happen in the run-up to the General elections whenever they are held next, as there are too many course ‘corrections’ needed. The main stumbling block is the Hindutva ideology. Can there be a BJP minus the RSS strings – that is the question?

    One political commentator close to the BJP had emphasized (in his article and in a private email to me subsequently) that a right-of-centre party would have a large number of people from the BJP. This was about 2 years ago and there has been no movement forward. This process whenever started is going to be a very long drawn one.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Righ-of-centre idea has been tried by Swatantra party in the sixties and it failed, after showing good promise.

    Shoeb and Gopi could throw more light on this right-of-centre thing.

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  • Anonymous

    Abiding images of UP elections
    ———————————————-

    Rahul Gandhi said UPites go to Mumbai and beg.

    Salman Khurshid said Sonia Gandhi wept bitterly when he showed her the “abiding images” of the slain terrorists.

    To prove that he is speaking the truth, he showed the crowd a kerchief dripping with Sonia Gandhi’s tears. He also drank a few drops from the kerchief and told the crowd that the tears are indeed bitter.

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay Kumar,

    in the last blog, you asked Mahesh, “Mahesh, I would like to know your views on having a parliament based on proptional religious reservations… It does sound nice in theory many people feel”

    I would support this idea if only to make the ground a level playing field.

    The minorities too would, then, have their share of the loot proportionately.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    Well many people will take your assertion seriously. Just ask Engrich and he will give you 50 reasons why religous propotional reservation is the need of the hour.

    What is your opnion Engrich?

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  • Anonymous

    It’s Madhubala’s birth anniversary today

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/Entertainment/Bollywood/It-s-Madhubala-s-birth-anniversary-today/Article1-811140.aspx

    Had she been alive, she would have turned 78 on Valentine’s Day today. Tragically enough, actor Madhubala died nine days after her 35th birthday, craving for true love and companionship from the men she had loved. Her youngest sister, 65-year-old Madhur Bhushan pledges to bring out her elder
    sister’s biography next year.

    ———-
    Read on

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~ WHY VALENTINE’S DAY NEEDS TO BE BANNED THIS YEAR !! ~~~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————–

    Look at the date

    14-02-12

    Then PLEASE dont read it in HIndi… !!

    Tauba tauba !! Ban the day …

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You confirm what they say about a builder’s brain , 90% of the time it is preoccupied with the thought of sex

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The first builders were adam and eve who needed a grass bed curtesy whom all humanity lives today.

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  • Anonymous

    This is India.

    1) ‘Butcher of Trilokpuri’ set free; AIISF rushes to court

    http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Butcher-of-Trilokpuri-set-free-AIISF-rushes-to-court/911670/

    Ludhiana A day after the media reported that Delhi Lieutenant-Governor (L-G) Tejendra Khanna has commuted the life sentence of Kishori Lal (48), convicted of multiple murders in the 1984 anti-Sikh riots in Delhi, the All India Sikh Students Federation (AISSF) announced to file a PIL before Delhi High Court challenging the move.
    ——–

    Read on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Manohar

    Somebody is soon going to shout MOdi Modi Rape rape to obfuscate the collusion of the COngress government in the 1984 riots. Watch out now…

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  • Anonymous

    ABIDING IMAGES OF UP ELECTIONS
    ===============================

    Vinodji,

    this is for you to mull over the media’s failure to highlight the plight of the people of Amethi and Rae Bareilly.
    —————————————————————————————————————

    ALL IS NOT WELL IN AMETHI, RAE BARELI
    ====================================
    BY SUBHASH MITRA—-NEW INDIAN EXPRESS, 14TH FEB., 2012

    Rae Bareli: Priyanka Gandhi is put in a tight spot as the non-performance of congress MLAs is looming large in the Nehru-Ganhi pocket borough of Amethi and Rae Bareli in UP.

    The public’s resentment is not confined to just one or two constituencies, but spread across almost all the constituencies. The anguish of the local population is increasing by the day.

    Priyanka received some poignant remarks directly from the voters while she toured the Rae Bareli constituency.

    “Priyankaji, why have you come to seek our votesfor this laggard MLA, who has not done anything for us?” was a question hurled by an agitated middle-aged man at a Priyanka public meeting in Harchandpur assembly constituency in Rae Bareli.

    “There is no change” remarked Ravi Kumar Singh, a local from Jagdishpur, another assembly constituency, whereclosed factories are cold reminders that the areas had been neglected for a while. The local residentsare struggling with problems relating to getting a hand pump, a disability certificate or a BPL card.

    But the sad part is that their MLAs are insensitive to these problems. “Most of the MLAs have not been able to utilise even the Vikas Nidhi (dev.fund)”-informed an officer of SDM rank in Amethi.

    With the congress losing power at the centre and the state in 1989, where it has not been voted back since then, this industrial belt has turned into an industrial graveyard as most of the industries have been closed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ SHenoy

    Arre baba we need to remember that after India won the world cup, the NDTV banner had a picure where the entire 11 players of the Indian cricket team occupied 33% of the banner and a beaming chotta baba dressed in white occupied 70% of the frame. :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That was understandable, because it was only because the crown prince agreed to pose for the poster, India had won the world cup.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Beautiful!!

    You should send this to NDTV or better ask Vinodji to whipser the exceuse to Barkha. Ever since that poster appeared, NDTV has not found a suitable excuse till date…

  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~ Another FAMILY congress style mummy- papa -husband- wife Democracy !~
    —————————————————————————————————————————–

    Salman Khurshid by the way is a failure as MLA and has betrayed his constituents. Read this article from NDTV:
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    Mr Khurshid’s wife, Louise, is his party’s candidate from Farrukhabad; the same area chose him as its member of parliament three years ago. 70,000 out of the 3.5 lakh total voters in the constituency are Muslims.

    “You have chosen Salman as your MP, now give us a chance, and give me an opportunity to serve you too. Help me win this election,” she says to a gathering of women and children in a Dalit basti.

    The voters here know Mr Khurshid not just as Law Minister, but as the Minister for Minority Affairs. The BJP says he has communalised the agenda here, first by announcing a sub-quota for Muslims within the larger 27% reservation for Other Backward Classes, and then by stating that Sonia Gandhi wept when she saw photos of the Batla House encounter. After his party objected, Mr Khurshid withdrew that remark, saying he had been misquoted about his party president.

    Batla House is an emotive issue in this part of the state – in 2008, the Delhi Police barged into a building in Delhi’s Jamia Nagar and a shootout followed with a group of men they describe as terrorists. Two young Muslim men were killed, both from Azamgarh, just 500 kms from here.

    Some Muslim voters say Mr Khurshid has shown political immaturity by opting for a see-through agenda. Development remains a distant hope here, and bijli-sadak-paani (electricity, roads, water) are all that matters. A middle-aged doctor, Zubair Ahmed, shares, “Whatever Salman has sowed, his wife Louise will reap the losses. He has done nothing in the past two years. Why should we vote for his wife?”

    Mrs Khurshid is not coy about wearing her religion on her sleeve. “I have embraced Islam. I am an ail-e-kitaab (I swear by the Quran). My wedding was a traditional nikaah. We are not appealing to a religion, we are appealing to humanity,” she told NDTV.

    The incumbent MLA from here is tainted minister Anant Mishra from the Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP), who is facing a CBI investigation. He has been denied a ticket.

    Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/assembly-polls/louise-khurshid-battles-to-make-political-mark-in-uttar-pradesh-176217?pfrom=home-otherstories&cp

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Anant Mishra , is he from the same CLAN of SMUG SNORKELING Mishra of this blog

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    Anonymous Reply:

    viju

    Honestly speaking, BJP has to come out “for” something, and not always “Against”….. BJPs ineptitude can be a Harvard Business School case study

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I dont think the BJP is currently in a position to gather the anti establishment vote in UP.

    Its a cadre based party. it needs to market itself with a new agenda to get the youth to become its cadre in a huge way

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    Anonymous Reply:

    For me the bad part was Louise wanting to prove she has converted to islam. Vote ke liye kuch bhi karega…

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  • Anonymous

    This is for Balwinderji and all the other members of the threatened species called ‘husband’:

    On the sacred day of St. Valentine, here is wishing these husbands a day of freedom:

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  • Anonymous

    Seems that Engrich’s friends are pretty dumb. That they throw bombs at taxi drivers who dont give them a lift.

    Read on. From NDTV

    A man thought to be of Iranian descent is believed to be responsible for the explosions; there are reports that he was carrying the bombs. Reports say the man hurled a bomb at a taxi after the driver refused to accept him as a passenger. When police arrived at the scene, the man reportedly threw a second bomb at them, but it hit a tree and bounced back towards him and exploded, blowing his legs off. A picture posted on Twitter purportedly showed a wounded man lying on a sidewalk strewn with broken glass outside a Thai school, his legs apparently ripped off. Several Thai television stations reported that an identification card found in a satchel nearby indicated that the man may be of Iranian descent. The man is in hospital.

    Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/five-big-facts-about-bangkok-blasts-176240&cp

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    It is strange Chidambaram will rush to give this news as if he has full intelligence on this.
    Obviously he is being pressured by US and Israel to talk about the “Iranian bombers”.
    It is a shame for India (who is still investigating Mumbai and Delhi explosions) to toe the line of Israel/US and blame a country without a solid proof.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji/Vijay,

    Gradually a case is being built against Iran. I won’t be surprised if in coming days
    we might see similar incidents around the world where Iran will be blamed.
    Is US preparing the grounds to attack Iran? I hope not .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    i doubt if there would be a war with Iran. The US will end up borrowing more from China to blow all in fireworks and bombs.

    As it is, it is at its wits end in Af-Pak.

    It will set up covert operations for a regime change in Iran. Maybe even finance more assasinations.

    I think Engrich and Ravi can apply for double agent jobs with the CIA.

    Anonymous Reply:

    With the entire middle east being on fire, literally, there is an acute shortage of double agents.

    With their qualifications of being trained by the ISI and that too at Muridke, no less, fake Ravbi and engrich Ram Sevak have already been enlisted by half a dozen rag tag outfits at salaries, which will enable these two to outsource some of the grunge work to other new recruits, enabling these two veteran jihadis to indulge in “Modi, Modi, rape, rape” kind of work on Vinod SHarma’s blog, as guest artists of the pseudos.

    And they know from tomorrow, the Modi business will hot up.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Double agents like David Colemanalias Daood Gilani gedt double salaries. ISI + CIA

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi, Mohan, Vijay Kumar,

    This is the first opportunity for Chidambaram to do a bit of grand standing after the near-fatal brush with the law on 2G.

    Krishna too is trying to say ‘me too……’

    As if the Israelis don’t know our paper tigers inside out.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS
    I hope he is not su..ing up to Israelis; and just want to do a grand standing

  • Anonymous

    Interesting article on Modi.
    Shenoy, we discussed the same subject yesterday.

    http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?279903

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Thanks for the link.
    People like Teesta should be jailed, period. They are a menace to the society’s progress. getting money from foreign NGOs, always living on crumbs that are plenty in a country like India..

    A responsibility rests on Congress/UPA to shut up on this.

    Also, B Raman is nobody’s fool

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Mr. Raman is a reputed journalists and I have read many of his articles where he
    has criticized BJP. He cannot be labeled as a RSS/BJP sympathizer. And yes, I
    agree with your views on Testa Setalvad.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    On every Friday, he wears khaki chaddi.

  • Anonymous

    Guys

    Looks like the crazy Mullah Muslims are now destroying the Budhist statues in Maldives.. God give them some sanity!
    from NY times today
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/14/world/asia/political-turmoil-threatens-archaeological-treasures-in-maldives.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Religion of peace in action when it is in ABSOLUTE majority.

    Same thing happened in Kashmir too. More than 800 temples have been destroyed since 1989.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think this is the danger of sanctifying reservation along religious lines.

    Somebody has to frankly stand up against religion– maybe all religion — and just show the truth. That much of what is written in books has been supreceded by science and knowledge.

    In case of Islam the situation gets worse because there are schools teaching untruths that history only started after the advent of islam. By this logic the pyramids in egypt could well become a target. Wish there were Muslim voices willing to stand up to the fanatics.

    Even on this blog we see a couple of voices justifying the action of the fanatics. But again as Shoeb, Rizwan and Parvez have time and again pointed out that education is the key…

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    engrich Reply:

    Budhist statues

    may be they are follwing hindus who destroyed all their temples in miain land.
    this may be reaction of muslim killings by budhdhists in lanka.

    american wants millitay base there.they already have 50 mlitary bases between
    india and egypt.

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan, Vijay Kumar, Pankaj ji, Rajeev, Gopi,

    It was indeed great pleasure to meet one of the fellow bloggers in flesh.

    Friends, Mohan is what we find him on the blog: gentle, soft-spoken, and good natured.

    With all the fire works going on here, he had, not a bad word for anybody, except of course, the usual suspects.

    Actually, I wanted to show him the khaki knicker I wore under my pants, but the presence of his wife deterred me. But, I need not have worried, the good man that he is, he readily took me by my word on the knicker and all that it typifies.

    Gopi and Shoeb, both of you being based practically next door, will you take some time off and visit Bangalore?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy & Mohan

    Thx for the invitation Mohan. Wish I could have joined the party. Maybe at this point I am so much in a flux that I reluctantly decided to maintain my anonymity. Maybe I have spoken a bit too much about myself !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,
    Nice to know that you and Mohan had good time. I have not met either of you but I can say with 100% confidence, you both are excellent gentlemen, example for younger generation.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Rajeev

    From the jokes Mohan cracks… I have a feeling he is a teenager…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think Mohan is probably in 45-55 years range and Shenoy Saheb is around 65+.

    But both are young at heart.

  • Anonymous

    We have strange situation in case of Samjhauta Blast. One set of evidences collected during start of investigations point to SIMI-LeT hand in the blast. Safdar Nagori’s Narco Analysis and subsequent confession statement provided evidence of Islamic Jihadists involvement.

    In second stage of Investigation under newly created NIA, evidence has come out in the form of Aseemanand’s confession (identical to Nagori). We still don’t have any evidence coming from Pragya or Purohit. Now that Kamal Chauhan is arrested, we may see some development.

    As per US intelligence, Samjhauta blast was work of LeT supported by SIMI. That position is still unchanged. If I am not wrong some UN resolution also held LeT responsible for this blast.

    However I will go by what our Indian agencies say on this matter. I just want to ask were evidences collected against SIMI-LeT combine fabricated or evidences against saffronites fabricated. Only one set of evidences can be true or may be both are false. I think it is time govt. come out clean on these two sets of evidences. It should either apologize to Pakistan and LeT for false allegation or apologize saffronites for fabricating evidence.

    We need more clarity on this case. According to me terrorist is a terrorist and if that person belongs to LeT-SIMI or Saffron outfits, he/she should be swiftly punished.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Whoever kills and is a terrorist deserves punishment. End of the matter. no debate for this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Totally agree with you but you can’t convict two people for same crime. One of them has to be innocent.

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  • Anonymous

    Hundreds of crorepatis take guard for BMC poll battle

    Scores Of Candidates Face Serious Criminal Cases, Shows Analysis Of Their Affidavits. Many Haven’t Declared Their PAN

    http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOIM/2012/02/14&PageLabel=4&EntityId=Ar00400&ViewMode=HTML

    Percentage of party’s candidates with pending criminal records.

    Shiv Sena – 13%
    MNS – 12%
    CPI – 11%
    SP – 8%
    Congress – 7%
    NCP – 3%
    BJP – 3%
    BSP – 3%

    The percentages seem to be lower than in elections elsewhere.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good that NCP, BJP and BSP bought down this percentage to 3%.

    In UP the so called secular party, the SP probably beats all in criminal candidates. So when they would field a murderer, all he had to say was “I beleive in social justice”

    And he was given the stamp of respectibility by our press.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,
    You can’t compare criminals of UP with those of Maharashtra. UP has low level thugs criminals engaging in extortion, rape, loot, chota-mota scam whereas crime in Maharashtra is usually of white collar type. This white collar criminals are into big scams especially real estate, food scam, private colleges etc. and these people are never on the radar of agencies because their crimes are basically high end of posh variety.

    If you compare Mulayam and Laloo with Sharad Pawar, who would you call a bigger scamster/criminal? Laloo is a bachchaa compare to maharashtra politician.

    I spent my childhood and part of adulthood in Pune & I know how marathi politicians work. I personally know two from Pune who were paupers (belonging to INC and NCP earlier Congress S) and now both own engineering and medical colleges.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ rajeev

    Because Mahrashtra has a corporate culture, the crime is better organised like a corporation!!

    The UP criminals may be small time thugs but they end up harassing and scaring the public more. It is easier to get shot in UP.

    Dont underestimate the wealth of some fo the UP politicians. My guess is that at the top it goes into many thousand crores. Most of it is held in real estate.

    Dont know much about Maharashtra on detail…

    Anonymous Reply:

    I agree that UP politicians harrass and scare public more compared to marathi counterparts but when it comes to accumulating wealth marathi politicians are next to tamil politicians.

  • Dr Mishra

    BENOY HEGDE

    your link to the NYT article about Indian dance does not work, checked twice.

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    Dr Mishra Reply:

    thanks Binoy, just saw it. Proves that true class never dies out. I think it should be mandatory for at least private schools in India to have classes in Indian classical music, dance and instruments.
    Our curriculum needs a shake up. Stories like Chemeen by Pillai and Toba Tek Singh by Manto should be taught and American/ euro literature should be reduced somewhat

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  • Anonymous

    Javed Naqvi, Indian journalist working for DAWN wants India to downgrade relations with Israel because it is NOT a SECULAR country.

    I want to ask why Naqvi is working for a newspaper that belongs to Pakistan which is also not a secular country?

    Based on this logic India should also downgrade/snap ties from Islamic countries because barring few like Turkey, none of Islamic nations are secular.

    Why do muslims have so much hate for jews? After all Islam itself is offshoot of Judaism.

    Why should India favor Palestine? Just because India has 14% muslims..Is this not communal diplomacy?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Jawed Naqvi has strayed into journalism by accident while his real talent is for being a PR agent of the ISI

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    Dr Mishra Reply:

    Javed Naqvi is a total nutcase. It may interest you to know that he is actually an Indian journalist who lives, if I remember correctly, in Nizamuddin in Delhi. It is also possible that he is married to a Hindu Brahmin lady.

    I have been following his articles in Dawn for several years. He has always been quite anti-Hindu and anti-Indian. Like a lot of millitant Muslims, like Ravi here, he does have a habit of equating the magnitude of Islamic terror with saffron terror.
    I can only imagine the atmosphere at the dinner table in his house!! Infact, he is a close friend of a close friend and I have his email address. Shall I give it to you and then you can all, politely, tell him the error of his ways. Haha

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr.Mishra, just like you, I have been following Naqvi for years now. Most of the people who read him for first time mistake him for a pakistani. He speaks language of Hafiz Saeed against India on Kashmir and Indian muslims. If such a person starts teaching us virtues of secularism, it become unbearable. I have him email but I think he should be ignored. He is basically a NRP (non-resident Pakistani) living in India.

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    engrich Reply:

    dr on whch point u disagree with him.tell me.

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    engrich Reply:

    Why do muslims have so much hate for jews

    it is nothing religious,it is because of continous occupation and continously occupyig arab land after breaking international laws.jews were kicked out of palestine by christians.muslims brought them back.

    this is gundaaism of european jews which is condemned by europeans.they are occupying because of bussines.not for religous purpose.

    rajeev ur heart and mind is full of hate and u cannot understand things in correct perspective.india should support arabs because they are right and millions of indians working there sending india 45bllion dars yearly apart from billions of dollars our companies are making there.

    actually ur oppossiion is relegious.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, Palestinian issue is a legitimate one..

    It should be between Palestinians and Jews…why do other Muslims have to be involved in or be concerned about?

    Italian Catholics did not get involved with Catholics in Northern Ireland
    Indian Hindus did not get involved when Tamils were massacred in Sri Lanka
    What is this special deal with Muslimsi

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    engrich Reply:

    It should be between Palestinians and Jews…why do other Muslims have to be involved in or be concerned about?

    though u are american if some body demolish ur holy places in india or occupy part o india u will have feelings.moreover it is also question of life of indians and billions which india is earning.

    Indian Hindus did not get involved when Tamils were massacred in Sri Lanka
    awnser ..there was great reacition among tamil population.

    with same logic i ask u why u are worried for budhdhist statues.

    staues smust have been destroyed by zoinist agents not muslims.americans want military base there.all mayhem in this world i s coming from them.

    engrich Reply:

    It should be between Palestinians and Jews…why do other Muslims have to be involved in or be concerned about?

    u are an american citizen,why u are worried about indian affairs.same logic.

  • Anonymous

    @ Rajeev

    Before I sign off, I must congratualte you.

    Your presence certainly scares Mr Rape into his rathole…. :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    They avoid me because unlike them I don’t have double standards.

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  • pankaj#1

    Read an article by Ujjawala Naydu in Indian Express depicting life of deprivation of 2002 riot victims, mostly widows and old people. It is shame on Modi government to not extending them monetary/ moral help. I believe all the progress of vibrant Gujrat is useless, if old and infirms, widows and riot victims are not helped intensively for failure of government at Godhra and/ or Ahamdabad, irrespective of religious affiliations. Anything less will be a blot on civil society. Setalvad and her organization is more interested in getting Modi punished rather than help for these victims.

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    engrich Reply:

    pankaj u know supreme court has ordered his home mnister to be out of gujrat.
    he is charged for running money extraction bussines with help of his police officer and petty gundaas.murdering shahabuddin raping and klling his wife murdering witness tulsi,a hindu.victim of his lot were hindu
    riot was perpetued to win election,hiren pandya brhmn leader of bjp was also murdered for same purpose.

    CAN SUCH PERSON HOLD ANY OFFICE OF PUBLICE IMPORTANCE IN U.S OR EUROPE.

    tell me why u support him.he should be punished because he was the anchor of that mascare.

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  • Anonymous

    Land does not have religion. Whosoever labels land as muslim land, hindu land, xtian land is a fool and fanatic. The land is lost and won & it belongs to victors.

    Israel currently is in possession of the land so it is their’s as Pak occupied Kashmir belongs to pakistan.

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    engrich Reply:

    Israel currently is in possession

    if it is case why indians were fighting for liberation from britishers.uno gave them 45%of palestine(though it was wrong)anything more than this is occupied.they should vacate it.ur argument on kashmir is right.so the palestanians argument on their land.

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  • engrich

    ravi bhai shan and mishrajee good article,

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    Posted on 15. Feb, 2012 by Wayne Madsen in Opinion

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    By Wayne Madsen

    An Israeli Chabad sect couple, Rabbi Sheneor Zalman and his wife Yaffa Shenoi, have been told by Kerala police to leave India in fifteen days. The two are suspected by the Indian intelligence, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) of being involved in a covert operation in India linked to the 2008 Mumbai terrorist attack in which six Chabad members were killed in a shootout between Dawood Ibrahim’s Pakistan-based gangsters and the residents of Mumbai’s Chabad House. The incident was reported as a major act of terrorism when, in fact, it was score settling between Ibrahim’s drug syndicate and Chabadniks who were seen as moving in on Ibrahim’s control over the Mumbai drug trade.

    WMR has previously reported that Chabad houses around the world are believed by multiple intelligence agencies to be centers for Mossad activity operating under religious “cover.”

    RAW agents apparently staked out the couple’s pricey residence in Kochi as late night meetings were conducted with suspect individuals under Indian intelligence surveillance. The Israeli couple had lived in Kochi for almost two years. After being presented with evidence of espionage by the intelligence and police services, the Ernakulum District in Kochi decided to order the Israeli couple deported.

    Chabad Jews and Mossad were forced to leave their former base in Goa as a result of increased RAW and federal police surveillance of their activities, believed to include the shipment of heroin from Afghanistan to Southeast Asia in the east and the United Arab Emirates to the west. The Israeli Mossad and Chabad re-located their operations to Kochi, which had replaced Goa as a major drug trans-shipment point.

    In addition, Mumbai bombing suspect David Headley is believed to have maintained contact with the Mossad station in Goa prior to the Mumbai terrorist attacks. Headley is believed to have also maintained links with Ibrahim’s crime syndicate in Pakistan and the Lashkar-e-Taiba terrorist group in planning false flag terroist attacks in India. hen the green light for the Mumbai attacks was given, Ibrahim’s men decided to use the occasion to also attack their drug smuggling competitors at the Mumbai Chabad House.

    Kochi had, according to WMR’s Indian intelligence sources, also served as a clandestine communications support facility for Israeli Dolphin-class submarines and their contingent of naval divers operating in the Indian Ocean and Arabian Sea. The submarines are believed to be targeting Iran in the event of an outbreak of hostilities between Israel and Iran.

    Indian intelligence also believes the Israelis in Kochi were targeting the classified communications of the Indian naval base in Kochi, the headquarters for the Indian Navy’s Southern Command. By targeting the Kochi naval base and the anti-submarine warfare intelligence elements there and at the Indian naval air station on Willingdon Island, the Israelis were capable of providing warning to Israeli forces of Indian, Chinese, American, British, and French warships transiting past the tip of southern India to the Arabian and Red Seas.

    Rabbi Zalman and his wife denied all charges against them and insisted they were meeting people day and night as a service to the local Jewish community.

    Our sources say that after years of being played by Mossad, RAW has finally taken action against a major Mossad operating cell in the country.

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  • Anonymous

    Joke of the day.

    A man is standing nude looking in the mirror. He is not happy at what he sees and says to
    his wife ‘ I feel horrible, I look old, fat and ugly. I really need you to pay me a compliment
    to make me happy’
    Wife replies ‘ your eyesight is perfect ‘

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Gr8 one. Gives you all the reason for not getting married !

    By the way I still bneleive that u r a teen at heart…

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Even I believe that I am teen at heart, but the problem is my wife does not agree.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    I love this joke.

    Actually, the wife paid two compliments to her husband:

    that his eye sight is perfect and that he bought a perfect mirror too.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    @ Engrich

    It seems that all the nonsense has been whispered in ur ears by your comrade in your arms, sitting in a cave in Tora Bora,

    Before you bombard the site with more garbage you should also tell all that Wayne Madson is a master of conspriacy theories and writes for Hamid Gul’s Jehadi magazine.

    In July 2009, Madsen released a report saying there was a Q Group within the National Security Agency tasked with concealing US government involvement in 9/11.

    Once you give this truth also, we wil all understand your compulsions.

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    engrich Reply:

    Agency tasked with concealing US government involvement in 9/11

    there was goverment involvement in 9/11.otherwise why no enquiry commission was formed to establish truth.media reports are considered as fact.media is controlled by perpetuators..conspiracy theories are sometime right and sometime wrong.it is us to judge.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Was 26/11 caused by RAW or by Mossad or RSS? Digvijay SIngh and Burney of Sahar TV felt RSS had a hand. Pakistani press said RAW and MOssad.

    What is ur view?

    [Reply]

    engrich Reply:

    i already wrote about this that sacred brhmns of IB were involve in 26/11 mossad too hand in this.it had 2 clear aim,

    1.to finish karkare who was going to give press conference next morning exposing the hands of abhinav bharat in bomb blasts.
    2.to force pakistan attack his own people.after indias threat to attack zardari agreed to attack tribal areas of pakistan.

    david headley was jew not muslim.when he dtayed in shadab house he written his faith as jew.when fbi caught him he only had jewish prayers with him.

    again ,WHY THERE WAS NO ENQUIRY COMMISSION WAS FORMED TO ESTABLISH FACTS.WHY ADVANI WAS JUMPING LIKE WILD CAT WHEN ANTULAY ASKED FOR ENQUIRY.

    why karkare wife refused 1 crore offered by killer modi to her.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This Islamic pig engrich has plastered this blog with “sifarish” for his prophet, Mohammed from Bush, Blair and Reader’s Digest!

    Does your prophet need sifarish from kafirs?

    Or are you trying to convert Vinod Sharma, a brahmn conspirator, to Islam?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    even Tarun Vijay has been quoted

    [Reply]

  • engrich

    gift to all bloggers,

    ईश्वर इस धरती पर, मनु ( आदम)-सपशिखा ( हाव्वा) से लेकर मुहम्मद साल. तक , मानव के कल्याण और मार्ग दर्शन के लिए नबियो को भेजता रहा. मगर मुहम्मद सल्ल. में खूबी और विशेषताकूट कूट-2 भारी हुई थी.जहा मक्का के लोग जो अभी उनके अनुयाई भी नही हुए थे मगर उनके चरित्र और रहन-सहन देख कर सादिक ( सत्यवान) और अमीन ( अमनतदार) का लक़ब ( टाइटल) दिए हुए थे, वेदो ने उनको कलकी अवतार से नवाजा तो वही ईश्वर ने उनको सारे इंसानो और जिओ के लिए रहमत ( दयावान) बनाकर भेजने की घोषणा , पवित्र क़ुरान में कर दी थे.
    सुरा 21 आयत 107

    “और (ऐ रसूल) हमने तो तुमको सारे दुनिया जहाँन के लोगों के हक़ में अज़सरतापा रहमत बनाकर भेजा(107) ”

    इसी को मौलाना अल्ताफ़ हुसैन हाली ने अपने किताब “मुहद्डस-ए- हाली.” में यो फ़रमाया है.

    “वो नबीयों में रहमत लक़ब पाने वाला मुरादें ग़रीबो का बर लाने वाला
    मुसीबत में गैरो के काम आने वाला वो अपने पराए का गम खाने वाला

    फ़क़ीरों का मलजा, जयिफो का मावा यतीमों का वाली, गुलामो का मौला
    ख़टकार से दरगुज़ार करने वाला बाद-अंदेश के दिल में घर करने वाला

    मफ़सिद का ज़ेर-ओ-ज़बार करने वाला क़बायल को शियर-ओ-शकर करने वाला
    उत्तर कर हिररा से सूय-ए-क़ौम आया और इक नुस्ख़ा कीमिया साथ लाया

    मिस-खाम को जिस ने कुंदन बनाया
    खरा और खोता अलग कर दिखाया

    अरब,जिस पह क़ार्नो से था जेहल छाया
    पाल्ट दी बस इक आन में उस की काया

    रहा दर ना बीरे को मौज-ए-बाला का
    इधर से उधर फिर गेया रुख़ हवा का”

    Woh Nabiyon mein rehmat laqab panay wala
    Muraden Gharibon ki bar lanay wala
    Museebat mein ghairon kay kaam aanay wala
    Woh apnay paraye ka gham khanay wala

    Faqeeron ka malja, Zaeefon ka maawa
    Yateemon ka wali, Ghulamon ka Moula

    Khatakaar say darguzar karnay wala
    Bad-andesh kay dil mein ghar karnay wala
    Mafasid ka zer-o-zabar karnay wala
    Qabayel ko sheer-o-shakar karnay wala

    Uttar kar Hirra say suy-e-qoum aya
    aur ik nuskha keemiya saath laya

    Mis-kham ko jis nay kundan banaya
    Khara aur khota alag kar dikhaya
    Arab, jis peh qarno say tha jehal chhaya
    Palt di bas ik aan mein us ki kaya

    Raha dar na beeray ko mouj-e-bala ka
    Idhar say udhar phir geya rukh hawa ka

    दलाई लामा ने इस्लाम के बारे में अपने शब्दो में यो कहा है

    नई दिल्ली। तिब्बत के आध्यात्मिक गुरू दलाई लामा ने मंगलवार को कहा कि इस्लाम विश्व के महान धर्मो में से एक है। उन्होंने कहा कि सही अर्थो में जेहाद अपने अंदर के “नकारात्मक भावनाओं” स��� ल़डना है। जामिया मिलिया इस्लामिया विश्वविद्यालय की ओर से डॉक्टर ऑफ लेटर्स (डी.लिट) की मानद उपाधि ग्रहण करने के बाद धर्म गुरू ने कहा कि कुछ शरारती तत्व इस्लाम धर्म को बदनाम कर रहे हैं। उन्होंने कहा, “”मैं इस्लाम का समर्थन करता हूं। हम कुछ लोगों के चलते इस्लाम की गलत छवि नहीं पेश कर सकते। ऎसे शरारती तत्व हिंदू, यहूदी, ईसाई, बौद्ध सहित सभी धर्मो में हैं।”” दलाई लामा ने कहा, “”कई शताब्दियों से इस्लाम प्रमुख धर्मो में से एक है। यह लाखो-करो़डों लोगों की उम्मीद है।”” उन्होंने कहा कि विश्व भर के विश्वविद्यालयों ने मानद उपाधि देकर उनका सम्मान किया है, लेकिन भारत के एक प्रतिष्ठित इस्लामी संस्थान से सम्मान पाकर वह विशेष रूप से अपने को सम्मानित महसूस कर रहे हैं।
    नवेंबर 24त, 2010 | केटेगरी: मुख्य समाचार, समाचार |
    हतत्प://ववव.इंडियातिबेट.ऑर्ग/

    महात्मा गाँधी शब्दो में.

    इस्लाम, जो हजरत मुहम्मद द्वारा पेश किया गया,पिछले तमाम उद्घाटित धर्मो का अविच्छिन्न तत्व और उन सबका उत्कर्ष बिन्दु हैं, इसलिए इसे हर युग के लोगो के लिए सर्वथा उचित धर्म समझा जा सकता हैं। इस्लाम के इस महत्व की पुष्टि के लिए कुछ तथ्य नीचे दिए जा रहे हैं।
    एक यह कि अब कोई आसमानी किताब ऐसी नही हैं जो अपने मूलरूप में मौजूद हो । दूसरे यह कि अब कोई धर्म ऐसा नही हैं, जिसका यह दावा हो कि हर दौर के इन्सानों की जिन्दगी के हर मामले में रहनुमाई करेगा।
    इसके मुकाबले में इस्लाम तमाम इन्सानों की पूरी जिन्दगी में बुनियादी रहनुमाई का दावा रखता हैं। यह चौदह सौ वर्ष से तमाम चुनौतियों का मुकाबला करता चला आ रहा हैं, इसमें एक आदर्श समाज की स्थापना की तमाम क्षमतायें मौजूद हैं, जैसा कि यह अन्तिम पैगम्बरे इस्लाम हजरत मुहम्मद के नेतृत्व में स्थापित कर भी चुका हैं।
    ’’इस्लाम अपने अत्यन्त विस्तार-काल में भी अनुद्वार नही था, बल्कि सारा संसार उसकी प्रशंसा कर रहा था। उस समय जबकि पश्चिमी दुनिया अंधकारमय थी, पूर्व क्षितिज में एक उज्जवल सितारा चमका, जिससे विकल संसार को प्रकाश और ‘शान्ति प्राप्त हुई । इस्लाम झूठा मजहब नही हैं, हिन्दुओं को भी इसका उसी तरह अध्ययन करना चाहिए जिस तरह मैंने किया हैं। फिर वे भी मेरे ही समान इससे प्रेम करने लगेंगे ।‘‘
    ’’मुझसे किसी ने कहा था कि दक्षिणि अफ्रीका में जो यूरोपियन आबाद हैं, वे इस्लाम के प्रचार से कांप रहे हैं, उसी इस्लाम से जिसने मोरक्कों में रोशनी फैलाई और संसारवासियों को भाई-भाई बन जाने का सुख-संवाद सुनाया। ऐसा हो सकता हैं ? वे डरते होंगे तो इस बात से कि अगर अफ्रीका के आदिवासियों ने इस्लाम कबूल कर लिया तो वे गोरो से बराबर का अधिकार मागने लगेंगे। आप उनको डरने दीजिए। अगर कोई भाई-भाई बनना पाप हैं, अगर वे इस बात से परेशान हैं कि उनका वान्शिक बड़प्पन कायम न रह सकेगा तो उनका डरना उचित हैं, क्योकि मैंने देखा हैं कि जो लोग ईसाई हो जाते हैं तो वह सफेद रंग के ईसाइयों के बराबर नही हो पाते, किन्तु जैसे ही वह इस्लाम ग्रहण करता हैं, बिल्कुल उसी वक्त वह उसी प्याले में पानी पीता हैं और उसी प्लेट में खाना खाता हैं, जिसमें कोई और मुसलमान पानी पीता और खाना खाता हैं सही हैं। यूरोपियन का कांपना।
    ‘‘मैं पैग़म्बरे-इस्लाम की जीवनी का अध्ययन कर रहा था। जब मैंने किताब का दूसरा भाग भी ख़त्म कर लिया तो मुझे दुख हुआ कि इस महान प्रतिभाशाली जीवन का अध्ययन करने के लिए अओ मेरे पास कोई और किताब बाकी नहीं। अब मुझे पहले से भी ज़्यादा विश्वास हो गया है कि यह तलवार की शक्ति न थी जिसने इस्लाम के लिए विश्व क्षेत्रा में विजय प्राप्त की, बल्कि यह इस्लाम के पैग़म्बर का अत्यन्त सादा जीवन, आपकी निःस्वार्थता, प्रतिज्ञा-पालन और निर्भयता थी, आपका अपने मित्रों और अनुयायियों से प्रेम करना और ईश्वर पर भरोसा रखना था। यह तलवार की शक्ति नहीं थी, बल्कि ये सब विशेषताएं और गुण थे जिनसे सारी बाधाएं दूर हो गयीं और आपने समस्त कठिनाइयों पर विजय प्राप्त कर ली।मुझसे किसी ने कहा था कि दक्षिण अफ्ऱीकष में जो यूरोपियन आबाद हैं, इस्लाम के प्रचार से कांप रहे हैं, उसी इस्लाम से जिसने मोरक्को में रौशनी फैलायी और संसार-निवासियों को भाई-भाई बन जाने का सुखद संवाद सुनाया। निःसन्देह दक्षिण अफ्ऱीका के यूरोपियन इस्लाम से नहीं डरते हैं, लेकिन वास्तव में वह इस बात से डरते हैं कि अगर इस्लाम कुबूल कर लिया तो वह श्वेत जातियों से बराबरी का अधिकार मांगने लगेंगे।आप उनको डरने दीजिए। अगर भाइ-भाई बनना पाप है, यदि वे इस बात से परेशान हैं कि उनका नस्ली बड़प्पन कायम न रह सके तो उनका डरना उचित है, क्योंकि मैंने देखा है कि अगर एक जूलो ईसाई हो जाता है तो वह सफ़ेद रंग के ईसाइयों के बराबर नहीं हो सकता। किन्तु जैसे ही वह इस्लाम ग्रहण करता है, बिल्कुल उसी वक्त वह उसी प्याले में पानी पीता है और उसी तश्तरी में खाना खाता है जिसमें कोई और मुसलमान पानी पीता और खाना खाता है, तो वास्तविक बात यह है जिससे यूरोपियन कांप रहे हैं।’’जगत महर्षि, पृष्ठ 2इन्सानियत फिर ज़िन्दा हुई.

    डॉ॰ बाबासाहब भीमराव अम्बेडकर शब्दो में

    डॉ॰ बाबासाहब भीमराव अम्बेडकर (बैरिस्टर, अध्यक्ष-संविधान निर्मात्री सभा)
    ‘‘…इस्लाम धर्म सम्पूर्ण एवं सार्वभौमिक धर्म है जो कि अपने सभी अनुयायियों से समानता का व्यवहार करता है (अर्थात् उनको समान समझता है)। यही कारण है कि सात करोड़ अछूत हिन्दू धर्म को छोड़ने के लिए सोच रहे हैं और यही कारण था कि गाँधी जी के पुत्र (हरिलाल) ने भी इस्लाम धर्म ग्रहण किया था। यह तलवार नहीं थी कि इस्लाम धर्म का इतना प्रभाव हुआ बल्कि वास्तव में यह थी सच्चाई और समानता जिसकी इस्लाम शिक्षा देता है…।’’
    —‘दस स्पोक अम्बेडकर’ चौथा खंड—भगवान दास
    पृष्ठ 144-145 से उद्धृत

    भारतेन्दु हरिश्चन्द्र के शब्दो मे

    हिन्दी के वरिष्ठतम साहित्यकार भारतेन्दु हरिश्चन्द्र लिखते हैं‘‘जिस समय अरब देशवाले बहुदेवोपासना के घोर अंधकार में फंस रहे थे, उस समय महात्मा मुहम्मद सल्लल्लाहु अ़लैहि वसल्लम ने जन्म लेकर उनको एकेश्वरवाद का सदुपयोग दिया। अरब के पश्चिम में ईसा मसीह का भक्तिपथ प्रकाश पा चुका था, किन्तु वह मत अरब, फ़ारस इत्यादि देशों में प्रबल नहीं था और अरब जैसे कट्टर देश में महात्मा मुहम्मद सल्लल्लाहु अ़लैहि वसल्लम के अतिरिक्त और किसी का काम न था कि वहां कोई नया मत प्रकाश करता। उस काल के अरब के लोग मूर्ख, स्वार्थ-तत्पर, निर्दय और वन्य-पशुओं की भांति कट्टर थे। यद्यपि उनमें से अनेक लोग अपने को इब्राहीम अ़लैहिस्सलाम के वंश का बतलाते और मूर्ति पूजा बुरी जानते किन्तु समाज परवश होकर सब बहुदेव उपासक बने हुए थे। इसी घोर समय में मक्के से मुहम्मद चन्द्र उदय हुआ और एक ईश्वर का पथ परिष्कार रूप से सबको दिखाई पड़ने लगा।’’

    तरुण विजय के शब्दों में

    तरुण विजय सम्पादक, हिन्दी साप्ताहिक ‘पाञ्चजन्य’ (राष्ट्रीय स्वयं सेवक संघ पत्रिका)
    ‘‘…क्या इससे इन्कार मुम्किन है कि पैग़म्बर मुहम्मद एक ऐसी जीवन-पद्धति बनाने और सुनियोजित करने वाली महान विभूति थे जिसे इस संसार ने पहले कभी नहीं देखा? उन्होंने इतिहास की काया पलट दी और हमारे विश्व के हर क्षेत्र पर प्रभाव डाला। अतः अगर मैं कहूँ कि इस्लाम बुरा है तो इसका मतलब यह हुआ कि दुनिया भर में रहने वाले इस धर्म के अरबों (बिलियन्स) अनुयायियों के पास इतनी बुद्धि-विवेक नहीं है कि वे जिस धर्म के लिए जीते-मरते हैं उसी का विश्लेषण और उसकी रूपरेखा का अनुभव कर सवें$। इस धर्म के अनुयायियों ने मानव-जीवन के लगभग सारे क्षेत्रों में बड़ा नाम कमाया और हर किसी से उन्हें सम्मान मिला…।’’

    ‘‘हम उन (मुसलमानों) की किताबों का, या पैग़म्बर के जीवन-वृत्तांत का, या उनके विकास व उन्नति के इतिहास का अध्ययन कम ही करते हैं… हममें से कितनों ने तवज्जोह के साथ उस परिस्थिति पर विचार किया है जो मुहम्मद के, पैग़म्बर बनने के समय, 14 शताब्दियों पहले विद्यमान थे और जिनका बेमिसाल, प्रबल मुक़ाबला उन्होंने किया? जिस प्रकार से एक अकेले व्यक्ति के दृढ़ आत्म-बल तथा आयोजन-क्षमता ने हमारी ज़िन्दगियों को प्रभावित किया और समाज में उससे एक निर्णायक परिवर्तन आ गया, वह असाधारण था। फिर भी इसकी गतिशीलता के प्रति हमारा जो अज्ञान है वह हमारे लिए एक ऐसे मूर्खता के सिवाय और कुछ नहीं है जिसे माफ़ नहीं किया जा सकता।’’
    ‘‘पैग़म्बर मुहम्मद ने अपने बचपन से ही बड़ी कठिनाइयाँ झेलीं। उनके पिता की मृत्यु, उनके जन्म से पहले ही हो गई और माता की भी, जबकि वह सिर्प़$ छः वर्ष के थे। लेकिन वह बहुत ही बुद्धिमान थे और अक्सर लोग आपसी झगड़े उन्हीं के द्वारा सुलझवाया करते थे। उन्होंने परस्पर युद्धरत क़बीलों के बीच शान्ति स्थापित की और सारे क़बीलों में ‘अल-अमीन’ (विश्वसनीय) कहलाए जाने का सम्मान प्राप्त किया जबकि उनकी आयु मात्रा 35 वर्ष थी। इस्लाम का मूल-अर्थ ‘शान्ति’ था…। शीघ्र ही ऐसे अनेक व्यक्तियों ने इस्लाम ग्रहण कर लिया, उनमें ज़ैद जैसे गु़लाम (स्लेव) भी थे, जो सामाजिक न्याय से वंचित थे।
    मुहम्मद के ख़िलाफ़ तलवारों का निकल आना कुछ आश्चर्यजनक न था, जिसने उन्हें (जन्म-भूमि ‘मक्का’ से) मदीना प्रस्थान करने पर विवश कर दिया और उन्हें जल्द ही 900 की सेना का, जिसमें 700 ऊँट और 300 घोड़े थे मुक़ाबला करना पड़ा। 17 रमज़ान, शुक्रवार के दिन उन्होंने (शत्रु-सेना से) अपने 300 अनुयायियों और 4 घोड़ों (की सेना) के साथ बद्र की लड़ाई लड़ी। बाक़ी वृत्तांत इतिहास का हिस्सा है। शहादत, विजय, अल्लाह की मदद और (अपने) धर्म में अडिग विश्वास!’’
    —आलेख (‘. थाइ नेबर, इट’स रमज़ान’
    अंग्रेज़ी दैनिक ‘एशियन एज’, 17 नवम्बर 2003 से उद्धृत

    पेरियार ई॰ वी॰ रामास्वामी के शब्दो में
    ‘…इस्लाम की स्थापना बहुदेववाद और जन्म के आधार पर विषमता को समाप्त करने के लिए हुई थी। ‘एक ईश्वर और एक मानवजाति’ के सिद्धांत को स्थापित करने के लिए हुई थी; सारे अंधविश्वासों और मूर्ति पूजा को ख़त्म करने के लिए और युक्ति-संगत, बुद्धिपूर्ण (रॅशनल) जीवन जीने के लिए नेतृत्व प्रदान करने के लिए इसकी स्थापना हुई
    थी…।’’
    —‘द वे ऑफ सैल्वेशन’
    पृ॰ 13,14,21 से उद्धृत
    (18 मार्च 1947 को तिरुचिनपल्ली में दिया गया भाषण)
    अमन पब्लिकेशन्स, दिल्ली, 1995 ई॰

    अन्नादु��ाई के शब्दो में

    अन्नादुराई (डी॰एमके॰ के संस्थापक, भूतपूर्व मुख्यमंत्री तमिलनाडु)

    ‘‘इस्लाम के सिद्धांतों और धारणाओं की जितनी ज़रूरत छठी शताब्दी में दुनिया को थी, उससे कहीं बढ़कर उनकी ज़रूरत आज दुनिया को है, जो विभिन्न विचारधाराओं की खोज में ठोकरें खा रही है और कहीं भी उसे चैन नहीं मिल सका है।
    इस्लाम केवल एक धर्म नहीं है, बल्कि वह एक जीवन-सिद्धांत और अति उत्तम जीवन-प्रणाली है। इस जीवन-प्ररणाली को दुनिया के कई देश ग्रहण किए हुए हैं।
    जीवन-संबंधी इस्लामी दृष्टिकरण और इस्लामी जीवन-प्रणाली के हम इतने प्रशंसक क्यों हैं? सिर्फ़ इसलिए कि इस्लामी जीवन-सिद्धांत इन्सान के मन में उत्पन्न होने वाले सभी संदेहों ओर आशंकाओं का जवाब संतोषजनक ढंग से देते हैं।
    अन्य धर्मों में शिर्व$ (बहुदेववाद) की शिक्षा मौजूद होने से हम जैसे लोग बहुत-सी हानियों का शिकार हुए हैं। शिर्क के रास्तों को बन्द करके इस्लाम इन्सान को बुलन्दी और उच्चता प्रदान करता है और पस्ती और उसके भयंकर परिणामों से मुक्ति दिलाता है।
    इस्लाम इन्सान को सिद्ध पुरुष और भला मानव बनाता है। ख़ुदा ने जिन बुलन्दियों तक पहुँचने के लिए इन्सान को पैदा किया है, उन बुलन्दियों को पाने और उन तक ऊपर उठने की शक्ति और क्षमता इन्सान के अन्दर इस्लाम के द्वारा पैदा होती है।’’
    इस्लाम की एक अन्य ख़ूबी यह है कि उसको जिसने भी अपनाया वह जात-पात के भेदभाव को भूल गया।
    मुदगुत्तूर (यह तमिलनाडु का एक गाँव है जहाँ ऊँची जात और नीची जात वालों के बीच भयानक दंगे हुए थे।) में एक-दूसरे की गर्दन मारने वाले जब इस्लाम ग्रहण करने लगे तो इस्लाम ने उनको भाई-भाई बना दिया। सारे भेदभाव समाप्त हो गए। नीची जाति के लोग नीचे नहीं रहे, बल्कि सबके सब प्रतिष्ठित और आदरणीय हो गए। सब समान अधिकारों के मालिक होकर बंधुत्व के बंधन में बंध गए।
    इस्लाम की इस ख़ूबी से मैं बहुत प्रभावित हुआ हूँ। बर्नाड शॉ, जो किसी मसले के सारे ही पहलुओं का गहराई के साथ जायज़ा लेने वाले व्यक्ति थे, उन्होंने इस्लाम के उसूलों का विश्लेषण करने के बाद कहा था:
    ‘‘दुनिया में बाक़ी और क़ायम रहने वाला दीन (धर्म) यदि कोई है तो वह केवल इस्लाम है।’’
    आज 1957 ई॰ में जब हम मानव-चिंतन को जागृत करने और जनता को उनकी ख़ुदी से अवगत कराने की थोड़ी-बहुत कोशिश करते हैं तो कितना विरोध होता है। चौदह सौ साल पहले जब नबी (सल्ल॰) ने यह संदेश दिया कि बुतों को ख़ुदा न बनाओ। अनेक ख़ुदाओं को पूजने वालों के बीच खड़े होकर यह ऐलान किया कि बुत तुम्हारे ख़ुदा नहीं हैं। उनके आगे सिर मत झुकाओ। सिर्प़$ एक स्रष्टा ही की उपासना करो।
    इस ऐलान के लिए कितना साहस चाहिए था, इस संदेश का कितना विरोध हुआ होगा। विरोध के तूफ़ान के बीच पूरी दृढ़ता के साथ आप (सल्ल॰) यह क्रांतिकारी संदेश देते रहे, यह आप (सल्ल॰) की महानता का बहुत बड़ा सुबूत है।
    इस्लाम अपनी सारी ख़ूबियों और चमक-दमक के साथ हीरे की तरह आज भी मौजूद है। अब इस्लाम के अनुयायियों का यह कर्तव्य है कि वे इस्लाम धर्म को सच्चे रूप में अपनाएँ। इस तरह वे अपने रब की प्रसन्नता और ख़ुशी भी हासिल कर सकते हैं और ग़रीबों और मजबूरों की परेशानी भी हल कर सकते हैं। और मानवता भौतिकी एवं आध्यात्मिक विकास की ओर तीव्र गति से आगे बढ़ सकती है।’’
    —‘मुहम्मद (सल्ल॰) का जीवन-चरित्रा’ पर भाषण
    7 अक्टूबर 1957 ई॰

    रामधारी सिंह दिनकर के शब्दो में

    रामधारी सिंह दिनकर (प्रसिद्ध साहित्यकार और इतिहासकार)

    जब इस्ल���म आया, उसे देश में फैलने से देर नहीं लगी। तलवार के भय अथवा पद के लोभ से तो बहुत थोड़े ही लोग मुसलमान हुए, ज़्यादा तो ऐसे ही थे जिन्होंने इस्लाम का वरण स्वेच्छा से किया। बंगाल, कश्मीर और पंजाब में गाँव-के-गाँव एक साथ मुसलमान बनाने के लिए किसी ख़ास आयोजन की आवश्यकता नहीं हुई। …मुहम्मद साहब ने जिस धर्म का उपदेश दिया वह अत्यंत सरल और सबके लिए सुलभ धर्म था। अतएव जनता उसकी ओर उत्साह से बढ़ी। ख़ास करके, आरंभ से ही उन्होंने इस बात पर काफ़ी ज़ोर दिया कि इस्लाम में दीक्षित हो जाने के बाद, आदमी आदमी के बीच कोई भेद नहीं रह जाता है। इस बराबरी वाले सिद्धांत के कारण इस्लाम की लोकप्रियता बहुत बढ़ गई और जिस समाज में निम्न स्तर के लोग उच्च स्तर वालों के धार्मिक या सामाजिक अत्याचार से पीड़ित थे उस समाज के निम्न स्तर के लोगों के बीच यह धर्म आसानी से फैल गया…।
    ‘‘…सबसे पहले इस्लाम का प्रचार नगरों में आरंभ हुआ क्योंकि विजेयता, मुख्यतः नगरों में ही रहते थे…अन्त्यज और निचली जाति के लोगों पर नगरों में सबसे अधिक अत्याचार था। ये लोग प्रायः नगर के भीतर बसने नहीं दिए जाते थे…इस्लाम ने जब उदार आलिंगन के लिए अपनी बाँहें इन अन्त्यजों और ब्राह्मण-पीड़ित जातियों की ओर पढ़ाईं, ये जातियाँ प्रसन्नता से मुसलमान हो गईं।
    कश्मीर और बंगाल में तो लोग झुंड-के-झुंड मुसलमान हुए। इन्हें किसी ने लाठी से हाँक कर इस्लाम के घेरे में नहीं पहुँचाया, प्रत्युत, ये पहले से ही ब्राह्मण धर्म से चिढ़े हुए थे…जब इस्लाम आया…इन्हें लगा जैसे यह इस्लाम ही उनका अपना धर्म हो। अरब और ईरान के मुसलमान तो यहाँ बहुत कम आए थे। सैकड़े-पच्चानवे तो वे ही लोग हैं जिनके बाप-दादा हिन्दू थे…।
    ‘‘जिस इस्लाम का प्रवर्त्तन हज़रत मुहम्मद ने किया था…वह धर्म, सचमुच, स्वच्छ धर्म था और उसके अनुयायी सच्चरित्र, दयालु, उदार, ईमानदार थे। उन्होंने मानवता को एक नया संदेश दिया, गिरते हुए लोगों को ऊँचा उठाया और पहले-पहल दुनिया में यह दृष्टांत उपस्थित किया कि धर्म के अन्दर रहने वाले सभी आपस में समान हैं। उन दिनों इस्लाम ने जो लड़ाइयाँ लड़ीं उनकी विवरण भी मनुष्य के चरित्रा को ऊँचा उठाने वाला है।’’

    —‘संस्कृति के चार अध्याय’
    लोक भारती प्रकाशन, इलाहाबाद, 1994
    पृष्ठ-262, 278, 284, 326, 317

    मुंशी प्रेमचंद के शब्दो में

    मुंशी प्रेमचंद (प्रसिद्ध साहित्यकार)
    ‘‘…जहाँ तक हम जानते हैं, किसी धर्म ने न्याय को इतनी महानता नहीं दी जितनी इस्लाम ने। …इस्लाम की बुनियाद न्याय पर रखी गई है। वहाँ राजा और रंक, अमीर और ग़रीब, बादशाह और फ़क़ीर के लिए ‘केवल एक’ न्याय है। किसी के साथ रियायत नहीं किसी का पक्षपात नहीं। ऐसी सैकड़ों रिवायतें पेश की जा सकती है जहाँ बेकसों ने बड़े-बड़े बलशाली आधिकारियों के मुक़ाबले में न्याय के बल से विजय पाई है। ऐसी मिसालों की भी कमी नहीं जहाँ बादशाहों ने अपने राजकुमार, अपनी बेगम, यहाँ तक कि स्वयं अपने तक को न्याय की वेदी पर होम कर दिया है। संसार की किसी सभ्य से सभ्य जाति की न्याय-नीति की, इस्लामी न्याय-नीति से तुलना कीजिए, आप इस्लाम का पल्ला झुका हुआ पाएँगे…।’’
    ‘‘…जिन दिनों इस्लाम का झंडा कटक से लेकर डेन्युष तक और तुर्किस्तान से लेकर स्पेन तक फ़हराता था मुसलमान बादशाहों की धार्मिक उदारता इतिहास में अपना सानी (समकक्ष) नहीं रखती थी। बड़े से बड़े राज्यपदों पर ग़ैर-मुस्लिमों को नियुक्त करना तो साधारण बात थी, महाविद्यालयों के कुलपति तक ईसाई और यहूदी होते थे…।’’
    ‘‘…यह निर्विवाद रूप से कहा जा सकता है क��� इस (स���ता) के ���िषय में इस्लाम ने अन्य सभी सभ्यताओं को बहुत पीछे छोड़ दिया है। वे सिद्धांत जिनका श्रेय अब कार्ल मार्क्स और रूसो को दिया जा रहा है वास्तव में अरब के मरुस्थल में प्रसूत हुए थे और उनका जन्मदाता अरब का वह उम्मी (अनपढ़, निरक्षर व्यक्ति) था जिसका नाम मुहम्मद (सल्ल॰) है। मुहम्मद (सल्ल॰) के सिवाय संसार में और कौन धर्म प्रणेता हुआ है जिसने ख़ुदा के सिवाय किसी मनुष्य के सामने सिर झुकाना गुनाह ठहराया है…?’’
    ‘‘…कोमल वर्ग के साथ तो इस्लाम ने जो सलूक किए हैं उनको देखते हुए अन्य समाजों का व्यवहार पाशविक जान पड़ता है। किस समाज में स्त्रियों का जायदाद पर इतना हक़ माना गया है जितना इस्लाम में? …हमारे विचार में वही सभ्यता श्रेष्ठ होने का दावा कर सकती है जो व्यक्ति को अधिक से अधिक उठने का अवसर दे। इस लिहाज़ से भी इस्लामी सभ्यता को कोई दूषित नहीं ठहरा सकता।’’
    ‘‘…हज़रत (मुहम्मद सल्ल॰) ने फ़रमाया—कोई मनुष्य उस वक़्त तक मोमिन (सच्चा मुस्लिम) नहीं हो सकता जब तक वह अपने भाई-बन्दों के लिए भी वही न चाहे जितना वह अपने लिए चाहता है। …जो प्राणी दूसरों का उपकार नहीं करता ख़ुदा उससे ख़ुश नहीं होता। उनका यह कथन सोने के अक्षरों में लिखे जाने योग्य है—‘‘ईश्वर की समस्त सृष्टि उसका परिवार है वही प्राणी ईश्वर का (सच्चा) भक्त है जो ख़ुदा के बन्दों के साथ नेकी करता है।’’ …अगर तुम्हें ख़ुदा की बन्दगी करनी है तो पहले उसके बन्दों से मुहब्बत करो।’’
    ‘‘…सूद (ब्याज) की पद्धति ने संसार में जितने अनर्थ किए हैं और कर रही है वह किसी से छिपे नहीं है। इस्लाम वह अकेला धर्म है जिसने सूद को हराम (अवैध) ठहराया है…।’’
    —‘इस्लामी सभ्यता’ साप्ताहिक प्रताप
    विशेषांक दिसम्बर 1925

    स्वामी विवेकानंद के शब्दो में

    स्वामी विवेकानंद (विश्व-विख्यात धर्मविद्)

    ‘‘…मुहम्मद (इन्सानी) बराबरी, इन्सानी भाईचारे और तमाम मुसलमानों के भाईचारे के पैग़म्बर थे। …जैसे ही कोई व्यक्ति इस्लाम स्वीकार करता है पूरा इस्लाम बिना किसी भेदभाव के उसका खुली बाहों से स्वागत करता है, जबकि कोई दूसरा धर्म ऐसा नहीं करता। …हमारा अनुभव है कि यदि किसी धर्म के अनुयायियों ने इस (इन्सानी) बराबरी को दिन-प्रतिदिन के जीवन में व्यावहारिक स्तर पर बरता है तो वे इस्लाम और सिर्फ़ इस्लाम के अनुयायी हैं। …मुहम्मद ने अपने जीवन-आचरण से यह बात सिद्ध कर दी कि मुसलमानों में भरपूर बराबरी और भाईचारा है। यहाँ वर्ण, नस्ल, रंग या लिंग (के भेद) का कोई प्रश्न ही नहीं। …इसलिए हमारा पक्का विश्वास है कि व्यावहारिक इस्लाम की मदद लिए बिना वेदांती सिद्धांत—चाहे वे कितने ही उत्तम और अद्भुत हों—विशाल मानव-जाति के लिए मूल्यहीन (वॅल्यूलेस) हैं…।’’—‘टीचिंग्स ऑफ विवेकानंद, पृष्ठ-214, 215, 217, 218)अद्वैत आश्रम, कोलकाता-2004
    स्नेह और सहिष्णुता के प्रचारक स्वामी विवेकानन्द कहते हैं ‘‘पैग़म्बर मुहम्मद सल्लल्लाहु अ़लैहि वसल्लम संसार मे समानता के संदेशवाहक थे। वे मानवजाति में स्नेह और सहिष्णुता के प्रचारक थे। उनके धर्म में जाति-बिरादरी, समूह, नस्ल आदि का कोई स्थान नहीं है।’’
    स्वामी विवेकानन्द इस्लाम के बड़े प्रशंसक और इसके भाईचारा के सिद्धांत से अभिभूत थे। वेदान्ती मस्तिष्क और इस्लामी शरीर को वह भारत की मुक्ति का मार्ग मानते थे। अल्मोड़ा से दिनांक 10 जून 1898 को अपने एक मित्र नैनीताल के मुहम्मद सरफ़राज़ हुसैन को भेजे पत्र में उन्���ोंने लिखा ��ि
    ‘‘���पने अनुभव से हमने यह जाना है कि व्यावहारि��� दैनिक जीवन के स्तर पर यदि किसी धर्म के अनुयायियों ने समानता के सिद्धांत को प्रशंसनीय मात्र में अपनाया है तो वह केवल इस्लाम है। इस्लाम समस्त मनुष्य जाति को एक समान देखता और बर्ताव करता है। यही अद्वैत है। इसलिए हमारा यह विश्वास है कि व्यावहारिक इस्लाम की सहायता के बिना, अद्वैत का सिद्धांत चाहे वह कितना ही उत्तम और चमत्कारी हो विशाल मानव-समाज के लए बिल्कुल अर्थहीन है।’’विवेकानन्द साहित्य, जिल्द 5, पेज 415
    स्वामी जी ने स्पष्ट शब्दों में कहा है कि
    ‘‘भारत में इस्लाम की ओर धर्म परिवर्तन तलवार (बल प्रयोग) या धोखाधड़ी या भौतिक साधन देकर नहीं हुआ था।’’विवेकानन्द साहित्य, जिल्द 8, पेज 330

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  • engrich

    shan ravi bhai mishrajee and aaloke,

    I read the Koran every day, says former prime minister Tony Blair who claims it keeps him ‘faith-literate’
    By IAN DRURY

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2002883/Tony-Blair-reads-Koran-day-stay-faith-literate.html#ixzz1m3T7ikGO

    READER’S DIGEST says

    “Muhammad, the inspired man who founded Islam, was born about A.D. 570 into an Arabian tribe that worshipped idols. Orphaned at birth, he was always particularly solicitous of the poor and needy, the widow and the orphan, the slave and the downtrodden. At twenty, he was already a successful businessman, and soon became director of camel caravans for a wealthy widow. When he reached twenty-five, his employer, recognizing his merit, proposed marriage. Even though she was fifteen years older, he married her, and as long as she lived, remained a devoted husband. “Like almost every major prophet before him, Muhammad fought shy of serving as the transmitter of God’s word, sensing his own inadequacy. But the angel commanded ‘Read.’ So far as we know, Muhammad was unable to read or write, but he began to dictate those inspired words which would soon revolutionize a large segment of the earth: ‘There is one God.’ “In all things Muhammad was profoundly practical. When his beloved son Ibrahim died, an eclipse occurred, and rumours of God’s personal condolence quickly arose. Whereupon Muhammad is said to have announced, ‘An eclipse is a phenomenon of nature. It is foolish to attribute such things to the death or birth of a human being. “At Muhammad’s own death an attempt was made to deify him, but the man who was to become his administrative successor killed the hysteria with one of the noblest speeches in religious history: ‘If there are any among you who worshipped Muhammad, he is dead. But if it is God you worshipped, He lives forever.” –James A. Michener, “Islam: The Misunderstood Religion,” in READER’S DIGEST (American edition), May 1955, pp. 68-70.

    SAROJINI NAIDU says

    “Sense of justice is one of the most wonderful ideals of Islam, because as I read in the Qur’an I find those dynamic principles of life, not mystic but practical ethics for the daily conduct of life suited to the whole world.” –Lectures on “The Ideals of Islam;” see SPEECHES AND WRITINGS OF SAROJINI NAIDU, Madras, 1918, p. 167.

    Annie Besant says

    “It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher.” –Annie Besant, THE LIFE AND TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD, Madras, 1932, p. 4.
    K. S. Ramakrishna Rao says
    K. S. Ramakrishna Rao, an Indian Professor of Philosophy in his booklet, (“Muhammad, The Prophet of Islam,”) calls him the
    “Perfect model for human life.”
    Prof. Ramakrishna Rao explains his point by saying:
    “The personality of Muhammad, it is most difficult to get into the whole truth of it. Only a glimpse of it I can catch. What a dramatic succession of picturesque scenes! There is Muhammad, the Prophet. There is Muhammad, the Warrior; Muhammad, the Businessman; Muhammad, the Statesman; Muhammad, the Orator; Muhammad, the Reformer; Muhammad, the Refuge of Orphans; Muhammad, the Protector of Slaves; Muhammad, the Emancipator of Women; Muhammad, the Judge; Muhammad, the Saint. All in all these magnificent roles, in all these departments of human activities, he is alike a hero.”
    Today after a lapse of fourteen centuries, the life and teachings of Muhammad have survived without the slightest loss, alteration or interpolation. They offer the same undying hope for treating mankind’s many ills, which they did when he was alive. This is not a claim of Muhammad’s followers but also the inescapable conclusion forced upon by a critical and unbiased history.
    The least you could do as a thinking and concerned human being is to stop for a moment and ask yourself: Could these statements sounding so extraordinary and revolutionary be really true? And supposing they really are true and you did not know this man Muhammad or hear about him, isn’t it time you responded to this tremendous challenge and put in some effort to know him?
    It will cost you nothing but it may prove to be the beginning of a completely new era in your life.

    President George W. Bush says

    Quoting the Holy Quran out of contents is wrong, there are many sites with pro and anti Islamic statements that misquote the words of the Holly Quran just to support their argument. English translation of the Quran is actually the Translation of the meaning of the Holly Quran and is not 100% accurate. To learn the message of the Holly Quran, one must learn Arabic, and to translate The Holly Quran one must have knowledge of 12 subjects in order to understand the meaning. The prophet Mohammad (s) encourages education and knowledge for an educated person is free of ignorance.
    George Bush’s Quotes on Islam
    The United States is a nation dedicated to religious tolerance and freedom, and President Bush has acted to ensure that the world’s Muslims know that America appreciates and celebrates the traditions of Islam. “Here in the United States our Muslim citizens are making many contributions in business, science and law, medicine and education, and in other fields. Muslim members of our Armed Forces and of my administration are serving their fellow Americans with distinction, upholding our nation’s ideals of liberty and justice in a world at peace.”
    Remarks by the President on Eid Al-Fitr
    The Islamic Center of Washington, D.C.
    December 5, 2002
    “Over the past month, Muslims have fasted, taking no food or water during daylight hours, in order to refocus their minds on faith and redirect their hearts to charity. Muslims worldwide have stretched out a hand of mercy to those in need. Charity tables at which the poor can break their fast line the streets of cities and towns. And gifts of food and clothing and money are distributed to ensure that all share in God’s abundance. Muslims often invite members of other families to their evening iftar meals, demonstrating a spirit of tolerance.”
    Remarks by the President on Eid Al-Fitr
    The Islamic Center of Washington, D.C.
    December 5, 2002
    “We see in Islam a religion that traces its origins back to God’s call on Abraham. We share your belief in God’s justice, and your insistence on man’s moral responsibility. We thank the many Muslim nations who stand with us against terror. Nations that are often victims of terror, themselves.”
    President Hosts Iftaar Dinner
    Remarks by the President at Iftaar Dinner
    State Dining Room
    “Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions. Our enemy does not. Our enemy doesn’t follow the great traditions of Islam. They’ve hijacked a great religion.”
    Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Afghanistan
    Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Washington, D.C.
    October 11, 2002
    “Islam is a faith that brings comfort to people. It inspires them to lead lives based on honesty, and justice, and compassion.”
    Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Afghanistan
    Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Washington, D.C.

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  • Anonymous

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    ~~ THE HARM TO INDIA — Digvijay and Congress do~~ MY IMAGE OF UP POLLS~
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    One of the downsides of the UP poll has been the total fall in values and ethics which parties have adopted to woo the electorate. In this the Congress the done a huge huge damage to the morale of the police and the security forces as well as the standard of politcs, in their mad desire to somehow get power.

    Digivijay Singh– by all accounts the guy whose voice matters in the Congress– and the person Soniaji as given the responsibilty of mentoring RahulG, has been willing to give up India’s three decade foght with forces of terror, by blaming the security forces AND deliberatly making the Muslims feel that they are being targetted. When the real war can only be fought by making Muslims a part of the national hope and progress, he has chosen to make them feel separate.

    My simple cross questioning of Engrich, below, just proves that cosnpiracy theory specialists like him only manage to hammer the wedge– even when terrorists strike India. Instead of concluding that Kasab and co were bad people, bad Muslims, bad human beings– he will only conclude that it is all a conspiracy by RAW, Mossad and Hindus.

    Sad that Mahatma Gandhi’s party has done this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Ravi and Engrich

    Ravi, Please conrol your guru. he has gone bonkers again.

    Engrich, posting all this will only give an impression that you have nothing original to say. The subject here is UP polls. If I post 20 pages of Engineeering theory, Raju posts a the Bible, Shenoly posts the Gita in full, how would you feel?

    COme… be a good uncle now. Have a glass of water. Go out and see a film of Katrina or Kareena. Smile. The sit on your computer and edit all this non relevent stuff …

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    That’s not fair. Before the start I am out of the compitition. I cannot post 20 pages
    of jokes at one stretch.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    :) As usual… good !

    engrich Reply:

    u are discussing eveything other than up election.

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    engrich Reply:

    wedge– even when terrorists strike India. Instead of concluding that Kasab and co were bad people, bad Muslims, bad human beings– he will only conclude that it is all a conspiracy by RAW, Mossad and Hindus

    kasab and his party were hired gunmen.western media never called them terrorists.of course they were bad people.must be hang without mercy.

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  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS—-BREAKING NEWS
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    ABIDING IMAGES OF RASHTRAPATI BHAWAN
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    Our dear president, Pratibha Patil, who has the reputation of having worked for Indira Gandhi as her cook and care taker, has history of corruption dogging her for ever. Her husband and she herself are involved in cheating coop banks of crores of rupees.

    Now, Rs.1crore in cash has been seized by the Mumbai police from her son.

    She has defiled the Rashtrapati Bhawan.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy and Prahlad

    The comparison with APJ Kalam could never be more striking.

    Prahlad sir, what is ur esteemd opinion on this?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Only one crore. Has she still not learnt the tricks how to loot thousands of crores?
    Poor lady, I have full sympathy for her.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He is not as smart as his mother or even his father.

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  • Anonymous

    Abiding images of UP polls
    The most powerful of them all….Not Rahul Gandhi , nor Sonia , nor even cho chweet Priyanka nor even her two boys but …. a smiling Vinod Sharma Sahib on prime time news, filling the Congress Space, but lashing out at even the slightest hint that he holds the Congress brief.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    I see similarities between Mr. Sharma and our friend Engrich.
    According to Engrich, Islam is perfect, pure and the best religion in the world and
    all the problems are caused by Brahmins and Zionists.
    According to Mr. Sharma, congress is the best political party of India and all the members of this party are saints. No corruption, no cheating, no looting, just pure
    selfless party which only thinks of betterment of th country and it’s people.
    All the problems of our country are because of RSS/BJP only.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohanbhai

    Electons in UP brings out the worst of Indian Politics. The competitive secularism of all political parties , except ofcourse the communal one, reaches a saturation after some time. Then the desperation leads to gimmics like Loise Fernanades proclaiming her conversion , but why did she not disclose her Muslim name she acquired after conversion , or Priyanka Gandhi displaying her two sons on stage , or later pulling her Mother’s cheek on stage and that one became the lead photograph on all channels and newspapers, as if it was of great public importance. But in contemporary times , when style and format matter more than substance, Vinod Sharma may be right that the lasting images shall be of Sonia Rahul Priyanka …Akhilesh or Jayant are there just for copy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    Our politicians will go to any length to win an election.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    Our politicians will go to any length to win an election.

  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~MY ABIDING IMAGE ~~ louise Fernandes and Salman Khurshid begging ~~ ~~~~~~~~BEGGING VOTES ON COMMUNAL LINES ~~~~
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    The COngress bent backwards to beg for votes on communal lines. Louise Fernandes, the wife of Slaman Khurshid , even proclaimed that she had converted to Islam so that people in her constituency vote for her.

    here is what NDTV writes, quoting her:

    Mrs Khurshid is not coy about wearing her religion on her sleeve. “I have embraced Islam. I am an ail-e-kitaab (I swear by the Quran). My wedding was a traditional nikaah.
    ————————————

    Absolutely utterly shameful. Jinnah and Osama must have been very very pleased.

    is it not hurtful to the Christian community or to that of any Indian that a person has to convert to ask for votes. In some ways she is like Engrich.

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  • Anonymous

    Jayalalitha is doing a great job here.

    Another ex-DMK minister’s properties were raided yesterday; so far, she has taken action against 16 DMK ‘leaders” including 12 ex ministers. Several of them are in jail.

    A superb executive she is; she has a ministry (with a very capable young IAS Secretary) charged exclusively with implementing her election platform. One of the promises was decisive fast action on the many land grabbing cases; and these arrests of the ex ministers/MLAs are connected with land grabbing.

    She is or legacy this time; definitely at the state level, and most probably at the central level too. Time will tell. It looks like that BJP will need her badly, if the early readings on the UP elections come to fruition.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Recently, when L K Advani & N Modi were in Chennai to attend a function organised by Cho Ramaswamy, she did not grant them an audience. Do you know why?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar-
    Well, Sasikala and her husband Natraj were let gone based on Cho’s recommendation that they will stand in her way for national ambition. There was news that she is interested in centre and using the current CM position as a step to that.

    She may have wanted to quell the rumour. That may be the reason for not meeting. She and Modi are on great terms. A Modi-JAya cMobination at the Centre will be a good thing for India…finally some great things will get done. Neither of them has progeny, so corruption will be zilch.(a lot of complaints against Jaya in her previous administration is all “set up”, and Sasikala was the beneficiary in most cases )

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    Prof. Dipankar Gupta of the JNU is one of the high priests of the secular brigade’s think tank, along with Prof.Nandi.

    he was asked to comment on the possibility of Narendra Modi becoming the NDA PM in 2014. His reply was that the best course for the NDA would be to elect Advani as PM and have two Dy.PMs in Nitish Kumar and Modi. Well, we can substitute Jayalalithaaaa for Nitish, depending on the numbers.

  • Anonymous

    ABIDING IMAGES OF VALEWNTINE’S DAY
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  • Anonymous

    HOW THE MEDIA TWISTS AND ALTERS MEANINGS OF COURT ORDERS
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    HINDUSTAN TIMES (headline): Guj riots: Give report to Zakia before Mar 15, court tells
    SIT
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    INDIAN EXPRESS: ONLY ZAKIA JAFRI CAN SEE THE RIOTS OF 2002
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;”””””””””””””””””’;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;”””””””””;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

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  • Anonymous

    My take on why the Congress is missing Modi in UP.
    The Congress is deeply disappointed that Modi has not campaigned in UP. If Modi comes it shall be able to communalize the elections completely in its favour and herd Muslims to assemble in front of its polling booths….. Losers SP ,BSP and other champions.. At present , inspite of all efforts, the temperature of communalism is still moderate and Muslims may drift in different directions.

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    engrich Reply:

    Ahmedabad: Narendra Modi’s government in Gujarat has been issued a contempt notice for failing to compensate 56 people whose shops were destroyed in the state’s communal riots of 2002.

    The Gujarat High Court had ordered the compensation last year; because the government has still not handed over the money to those affected, the court has taken action today.

    Last week, the High Court ordered the government to fund the repair of nearly 600 religious buildings that were targeted during the riots, the worst in independent India . Mr Modi’s officers had fought a Public Interest Litigation (PIL) that asked the state to underwrite the renovation.

    More details are awaited.

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan,

    you said, “Vijay,

    Even I believe that I am teen at heart, but the problem is my wife does not agree”.

    Mohan, at heart, you are a teen
    and your other limbs are ‘keen’
    your wife may say you’re a ‘has been’
    tell her to be prepared for the ‘unforeseen’
    and when it comes to young girls, you can be ‘mean’

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    engrich Reply:

    Mohan, at heart, you are a teen

    it means aap to abhi paida hi nahin hue hain.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Brilliant.

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  • Anonymous

    A past that will not pass

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/editorial/article2879925.ece

    Excerpt

    The fact that he remained — at best — a mute spectator to the killing of hundreds of innocent citizens and did nothing to ensure justice for the victims afterwards is a moral and political badge of dishonour that will ensure the higher office his supporters seek for him remains out of reach.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    It is “same old, same old”. The Hindu has always been more leftist than any leftist paper in many leftist country (if there is any one left!).

    So, let the Hindu not recycle the same garbage again and again.. Let the people decide –ohh hallowed parliamentarians…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    The Hindu has always been more leftist than any leftist paper in many leftist country (if there is any one left!).’

    Perfect description of Hindu.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Way back, some body described Hindu as most anti Hindu paper.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    What an irony?

    engrich Reply:

    more leftist than any leftist

    i wrote u the history of indian leftist.from ems to dange it was not change of heart but tactics to get vote.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,
    My sense is the complicit nature of state apparatus in 2002 riots will be brought to books bit by bit. Perhaps slow enough for the fundoos to get some temporary and intermediate sense of victory in a few small battles here and there.
    Another curious aspect is – in a rather perverse sense Mr. Modi may have partly succeeded in appropriating the leadership in hardliner camp, a position which would be much difficult to give up. Notice , for instance, the comments below that accuse Hindu newspaper of being “anti hindu” or more left than the actual left.
    p.s. : On a different Note – my gut feel is Gujarat gov. is probably liberalising the tax structure to an extent that might lead to un-sustainable deficits (am yet to dig inside figures , will get a much clearer picture later). What is your feel ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    You are right, though only partially.

    The “complicit nature of the state” has unravelled in Delhi about the complicity of the congress party and Rajiv Gandhi himself in the 1984 anti-Sikh POGROM by Sheila Dickshit declaring amnesty and premature discharge of the “BUTCHER OF DELHI”.

    In protecting the guilty of the pogrom, the congressies behave worse than the sanghies.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    So , we agree sanghies have been protecting the guilty ?
    Not bad to see once in a while we agree on something. :-)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    I am not at all surprised that you are part of the “Modi, Modi, rape, rape” gang for whom history of riots begin with the year 1992 and end with 2002.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Surprise , we agree again and this time on two counts. 1992 and 2002 with all its sanghi linkages.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Another thing, why does the mention of 2002 or 1992 elicit a pavlovian 1984 ?
    Is it a some kind of cancellation game happening here ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh

    Our track record in bringing to justice the conspirators / masterminds and the foot soldiers in the riots for the last 60 plus years has been abysmal. There are stray cases of justice being actually done, but can be counted on one’s fingers tips. The prime example is 1984. One Kishori Lal (in the news these days) was convicted and perhaps a few more. Where are the other culprits / leaders / derelict police officers and the bureaucrats? Where was Rajiv Gandhi? Why didn’t he along with other top leaders fan out to put a stop to the massacre right at the beginning?

    Enquiry commissions in most cases have failed to pinpoint the alleged culprits and in case they have (for example Srikrishna Commission 1992/93 riots in Bombay) the political class as a whole have failed to act on the Commissions findings. One of the tactics is to time-delay the whole thing. For example, Liberhan Commission took 17 years to tell us what we knew already and failed to put the perpetrators in the dock. The Mehta-Nanavati Commission looking into 2002 has been at its job for the last 10 years. When will it see the light of the day? To me it seems it is going to be another Liberhan.

    Shameful to say the least.

    Coming to Modi and 2002. We will never know the full truth. Going by our track record – probably no legally sustainable case will be made out against him. However, he has still a long way to go for political and social acceptability. The advent of electronic media has played a role in putting him in a corner, from which he is finding it difficult to get out. I must repeat in his defence that he has been ’solely’ held responsible for the mayhem. Where are the others and I am not talking about the foot soldiers? 2002 could never been the handiwork of one person.

    His and his administration’ alleged acts of commission and omission during and after the massacre are too well known to repeat here in order to judge whether he was complicit or grossly incompetent. In any case, he has to a lot of answer for and ten years have passed, not many questions have any answers.

    Perhaps, the country has a whole intrinsically has decided that it will not let be business as usual as far riots and punishing the guilty is concerned. We have had enough of it. That is why, as you suggest bit by bit, the wheels of justice are turning albeit slowly. It so happens that Modi is in the line of fire, much to the chagrin of his supporters. Two recent notices of the Gujarat High Court regarding compensation to shop owners and rebuilding the places of worships have to be seen in this light. Let us wait and see where all this leads to.

    ——————-

    I am not surprised that The Hindu is being shot at. I am surprised at the shooters for whom I have a high regard and have engaged them in debates, minus the abuse and labeling.

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    Development and progress in Gujarat is to be welcomed and credit must be also given to Modi for continuing / increasing the
    tempo, but to use it to whitewash the black days of 2002 and thereafter is …………….

    ———-

    There is a larger question.

    Why and what is that Modi is perceived by his supporters as the ’sole’ messiah and the saviour of the Hindutvawadis (and the only one fit to be the Prime Minister) , in spite of the fact that he has been perhaps the most controversial and divisive politician in the history of free India?

    —————

    As regards playing havoc with the fiscal policies – tax rebates, etc., why blame Modi alone? All states irrespective of the party in power have been very busy doing that. Modi comes under the scanner once too often. Blame it on his stars or 2002. It is only a matter of degree. Because you raised the question about Gujarat, I would like to see the figures you are talking about and then compare it other states.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,
    Nice response.
    I was surprised too about the responses to Hindu article. Couple of them were from folks who mostly think before opining.
    On our own track record about bringing culprits to the book – I tend to agree with you. In fact, mostly the bahvior has been to bury and shove ugliness under the carpet rather than confronting it head on. At times we have seen this behavior in a truly bipartisan. Remember 1992 ? As the iconic R . K Laxman cartoon of 1992 had it – it depicted the then Maharashtra CM Sudhakarrao Naik smoking his pipe calmly while Mumbai burned . In fact , in 1992 the only redeeming feature Congress had was the veteran artist Sunil Dutt’s genuine attempt at providing healing touch. 1984 was admittedly even dirtier and murkier due to involvement of several amongst the powerful.
    On deficits – will make a posting in couple of days , we can discuss more there on.

    Anonymous Reply:

    U are evolving very quickly. It won’t be long before u surpass another gentleman on this blog who has got considerable fluency in writing BS over the years!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Typical response of someone belonging to a particular caste who prides in sexually molesting dalit women and young girls.
    after all it is in his genes, he is not only DUMBASS he is WICKED IN EQUAL MEASURE. To compare your postings with Mahesh’s is like comparing Ray’s film with David Dhawan’s Raja babu , a film even beneath foR an IMBECILE

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan for you, 4-0 at San Siro

    Now keep quiet!!
    Or, escalate to entertain me further.

    Anonymous Reply:

    good luck with 2nd tier UEFA cup

    Anonymous Reply:

    The fact of Indian/Gujrat history is that the last decade was the only “riot free” decade in the history of Gujrat; and Modi govt should be given kudos for that.

    Gujrat had a bloody history since partition. 1969 riots (Justice Reddy commission) were more violent than post Godhra (a congress govt was ruling the state then). Murderous riots occurred in 1980, 82, 85 (85 was a high magnitude, and as usual we had another commission, Justice Dave), 1990, 1992..the list goes on.

    Gujrat is the most peaceful state now. Give credit where credit is due. Muslims from other states are migrating to Gujrat for jobs (and they are not being denied jobs).

    The planners, the secularists, the politicians of India better learn the history and lessons of Sri Lanka. Because if we are not careful a similar situation will happen here, resulting in unprecedented violence and the eventual suppression/marginalization of a community. The rush to reservations, the rush to judgment without being on the ground (the only fact is riots happened and people died, more Muslims died than Hindus, but both died, some locations were worse than others – everything else is conjecture – who knows what Modi was thinking, or what he “wanted to do”..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    You put me on the blink by your post for a moment, even though knowing your views on Modi.

    All I can say is that one riot does not justify another. All are reprehensible and need to be condemned in the strongest possible language.

    In my long (boring to some) post above, I have given credit to Modi for the carrying on the development of the state – that is his job. Anything else would not be acceptable.

    The main issue is unless there is a closure to the events of 2002 and thereafter, Modi will continue to ……..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    You have written ” the country has a whole intrinsically has decided that it will not let be
    business as usual as for riots and punishing the guilty is concerned ”

    Can you please give few examples other than Gujarat that people guilty of riots
    are being persecuted and punished.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kandhamal (Orissa), 2008 riots – the only major rioting after 2002. By who else!

    Navin Patnaik got fast track courts to do the job. In some of the cases, the it must be still trial-in-progress.

    As for other localised incidents restricted to some town or a village, there is no news in media, hence unable to comment.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Understood what you want to say. Anyone involved in 2002 riots or any riots after
    that will be punished. People involved in riots prior to 2002 can take a sigh of relief
    as nothing will happen to them. They all go scot free.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I take it you have read the preamble to my post above. I repeat it is shame that our track record is abysmal. Does it mean that we should maintain the same level of track record in the name of equity? No, sir. Somewhere and sometime we have to start repairing that fault line. It so happens that 2002 is that event.

    BTW, some of the activists are still trying to get justice for the victims of 1984, but I am not hopeful. I repeat shame on us.

  • Anonymous

    ABIDING IMAGES
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    ARROGANT AND UNCULTURED vs CULTURED AND HUMBLE
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    Anonymous Reply:

    Do you mean to say Pratibha Patil is uncultured? You expect her to touch feet of SoniaG publicly. Kuch to parde mein rahne do.. :)

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  • Dr Mishra

    Dear bloggers,
    Can I introduce you to Kumar Vishwas who may be called India’s brightest haasya kavi who also makes very acidic and patriotic comments on the rot in Indian society and politics.
    Please admire this MINDBLOWING shayri

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG_OY-7-78A&feature=fvwrel

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  • Anonymous

    Prospects of Pakistan’s Islamist resurgence
    Praveen Swami

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article2897288.ece?homepage=true

    Excerpt

    n the wake of the 1953 crisis, Justice Muhammad Munir and Justice Mohammad Rustam Kayani made this observation: “as long as we rely upon the hammer when a file is needed and press Islam into service to solve situations it was never intended to solve, frustration and disappointment must dog our steps”.

    Pakistan’s liberal-democratic rulers need to listen to that message.

    [Reply]

    engrich Reply:

    mr mohan good article,

    http://english.pravda.ru/business/companies/15-02-2012/120518-ten_myths_capitalism-0/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Are you happy or are you sad that the Islamists will win in Pakistan?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    that is an oxy-moron…..”pakistan’s liberal democratic rulers”

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  • Anonymous

    Why the UP polls and poll campaigns are disappointing for me:

    The interiors of Uttar Pradesh are conservative, faction ridden and slow moving. Unfortunately none of the parties have announced a programme which could propel UP to the cutting edge of the 21st century. In fact all of them are playing politics of getting groups based on relgious and caste identity together. Nothing to fire the imagination of the youth; no programme to clean up the dirty cities, no idea to market the juicy mangoes and other fruits to the international markets.

    With the nuetralising of Anna by the formidable forces of statism and stagnation, corruption is a topic nobody talks about.

    SInce a fair number of criminals have got tickets, we can also look forward to a propotional growth in crime.

    So at the end of the elctions we will remain corrupt, criminal, stagnant and lax.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “With the nuetralising of Anna by the formidable forces of statism and stagnation, corruption is a topic nobody talks about.”
    Implicit to this argument is the assumption about Anna’s appeal in rural UP. This assumption may need a re-visit.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well I belong to a city in UP called Moradabad, even though I am in Delhi for now. Anna’s cause has resonance all over UP. People in the villages have head of a messiah who would desroy this tabad tod corruption plaguing the country.

    You will notice that nobody talks about eradicating corruption anymore. It would take a full movement like “India against corruption” to mobilise the numbers and create a momentum to eradicate corruption

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Let me re-state…..
    Given the amount and kind of media coverage Anna was getting during the period – Anna being percieved as messiah is understandable. Even here I have questions about the outreach in rural UP and your conclusions , but never mind for now.
    However, just few months down the line do we still see the same appeal as being persistent ? Do you seriously think it was just the state power that drowned the whole campaign ? Other movements too were faced with similar reactions from state and yet they were more persistent . Ever analysed the difference ?
    More importantly, ever analysed what the whole campaign of IAC meant and translated to those in the rural land ?
    I could’ve questioned some of the metrics too but that would hardly matter as we would just end up out-speculating each other.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I dont see any other group or movement which is seriously seeking to eradicate corruption. As far as the UPA goes, evn the HOme Minister’s name has been dragged into 2G and remember all forces which fight against the corrupt work under the Home Minister.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do you really believe (in hindsight or otherwise) that the Anna movement was a fight to eradicate corruption?

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mahesh

    The forces of staus quo always label a revolution as a diversion by selfish forces.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Anna’s appeal did not cut any ice in his own backyard – Ahmednagar and Maharashtra. UP and other parts of the country are too far away to make a difference.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think you are living in a fantasy world. A poll done by India today showed that he would have beaten Rahul and Sonia in Amethi. You may be prejudiced against him, but please dont live in self denial about the truth

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not surprised that you fell for the shenanigan.

    Who conducted the poll? What was the sample size? What was the demographic spread? etc. etc. The ‘pollsters’ have never answered these questions. Just said 95+ % of the people would vote for Anna. They did this even in Chandni chwok constituency.

    You believe what you want to.

    The proof is in the pudding. Let Anna stand for Lok Sabha elections – say from the constituency in which he lives – Ahmednagar and we will see.

    In the recent municipal council elections in Maharashtra – it was Anna who?

    On Saturday, we will know the results of Municipal Corporation elections (underway today) and the Zilla Parishad elections in Maharashtra held some days back.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And the point you are trying to make is?

    Team Anna should have got 200 seats without contesting the civic polls?

    Anonymous Reply:

    That the proof is in the pudding.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I aqm talking about the India Today poll which is respectable.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Parvez

    It is unfortunate that UP still is frozen in 1950s or may be in 1900s…
    As you and Vijay and many others have suggested, UP has to be divided into smaller states.

    Just to show one dimension of the state – UP, in the last decade, grew to incorporate Kerala’s total population..Kerala’s present population is 32 million, UP’s decadal growth was 32 million.

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  • Anonymous

    Modiland
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    Saffron brigade halts Muslim realty deals in Gujarat

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Saffron-brigade-halts-Muslim-realty-deals-in-Gujarat/articleshow/11907061.cms

    Excerpt

    The brigade’s modus operandi is simple: on getting information about a Hindu planning to sell his property to a Muslim, they squat in front of his house and chant or conduct Ram Darbars. They don’t move from the place till the seller caves in.

    ————–

    What say?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mindsets have to change. Its sad that this happens as true national identities are formed only when inter-religious neighbours exist. Even in my hometown, many of the areas have been “Hindu” or “Muslim” areas.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good to know your mindset.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have also read two lines from the same story that you have:

    a) The group has managed to get 10 such property deals cancelled over the past six years…. Modi Modi – Rape Rape

    b) However, Arif Kalva, a community leader, said, “Muslims in the city have progressed and become prosperous. They too aspire to live in areas where they can become part of mainstream society.” …. Now who gets the credit?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    Managed! What happened to the other deals, if there were any? This news item is about Bhavnagar. Perhaps, there may be other similar tactics employed in other cities and towns, given the track record of Gujarat. This is manifestation of the larger problem in Gujarat. With Modi holding his sadbhavna fasts, let us hope this mobocracy comes to an end.

    You can give credit to Modi if you like. BTW, you mean to say that Muslims were not prosperous before the advent of Narendra Modi?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is manifestation of the larger problem in Gujarat.

    In fact the larger problem is people like Teesta’s and her ilk. Gujrat has virtually been riot free (as most part of the country) ever since, the Muslims in Gujrat and elsewhere have moved on. For political reasons and funding, the hounding of the incumbent CM is not stopping. SIT report has “reportedly” absolved Mr. Modi of any charges of complicity – its time for us to move on as well.

    Now, coming to this particular story, is Gujrat the only state where it has happened? I heard a similar cry not so long back by Mahesh Bhatt – Imran Hashmi, did this happen in Sonia Land or her Chamcha Land?

    And, Muslims have progressed in Gujrat as everyone else – without reservations.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Riot free. Yes. Let us not make a virtue out of something that is strictly par for the course. Governments are there to see that there are no riots.

    Gujarat is perhaps the only state where the Hindutvawadis have made it their business to interfere in other people’s life and business. In other states, if a person refuses to sell his property to another on account of religion and/or caste, then it is his prerogative. In Gujarat, apart from this blackmailing tactics, take the trouble of reading the Gujarat’s Anti-conversion law. It is quite clear that the target is ………..

    Reservations! Now, what this has anything to do with the topic we are discussing?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Powerful and majority would always have their way – law of nature. Even I am sick of a lot of things, but have learnt to live with it.

    The point is a community doesn’t need reservation to grow (as being offered as a solution by your favourite party) – just right governance. I haven’t had a chance of visiting Gujrat but I have a Muslim friend from Gujrat working with me. He says that under Mr. Modi things have improved big time. There is hardly any corruption. Govt. employees are always at their desk, are polite and people don’t have trouble getting the work done.

    Now, he still doesn’t vote for Modi – his heart won’t accept Mr. Modi – no matter what. Can’t help it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    1) “Powerful and majority would always have their way – law of nature”. Phew!

    That is why we have a constitution that makes it mandatory for the powerful and the majority not to have their way – the weak and the minority have as much rights to live and be equal citizens.

    2) Regarding your friend’s reluctance to accept Modi proves the adage – Development and progress has no meaning minus justice and fairness.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar/Manohar,

    Any thing bad happens in Gujarat is highlighted in such a way that if instead of Modi
    anyother CM would not have let that happen. Our media wants Modi to police every
    individual of Gujarat.

    engrich Reply:

    I haven’t had a chance of visiting Gujrat but I have a Muslim friend from Gujrat working with me.

    i agree but murderers should be punished.modi perpetuated riot to win election.he should not be allowed to set a bad example.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar-

    One group buying/owning properties happen all the time. Most of the landlords in kerala are Muslims; they pool together and buy properties of all sizes. However, the occupancy pattern is not changed in the sense they rent it out to whoever.

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  • Anonymous

    Two youngsters try to live on Rs. 26 per day…..
    Read On at :
    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/columns/Harsh_Mander/article2882340.ece
    p.s. : Please be warned , “Hindu” happens to rabidly “anti-hindu” and more “left of left” newspaper.
    p.p.s.: Interestingly enough, this reminds of a chapter titled “Why Do Drug Dealers Still Live with Their Moms?” from Steven Levitt’s book Freakonomics.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    One has to thank Jawaharlal Nehru and Srimathi Indira Priyadarshini Gandhi for Indian poverty, and Narasimha Rao for trying to do something about the poverty.

    And one has to thank Shrimathi Indira Priyadarshini Gandhi for the culture of corruption we see today.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Perhaps it escaped your attention ,I am reposting it , WINNER TAKES IT ALL CAPITALISM AND ITS EFFECT
    Perhaps you need to read INDIA AFTER GANDHI BY RAM GUHA
    OR INDIRA BY KATHERINE FRANK
    First Ram Guha page 415 para 5-26(abridged by me)
    “When the monsoon failed again in 1966 , the predictions were of MASS STRVATION rather than break up of india or abrogation of democracy.The same year the stanford biologist Ehlrich was writing this , two other american biologist predicted1975 as the year by which civil disorder , anarchy MILITARY DICTATORSHIP transportation breakdown and chaotic unrest will be the order of the day.”
    Next Katherine Frank
    page 295 para3
    “India in January 1966 was in a worse shape than it ever been . Severe droughts had led to food shortage and famine conditions in large parts of the country ESPECIALLY IN KERALA WHERE THERE WERE RICE RIOTS.”
    India could not devolope a TRUE CAPITALISM NEITHER A french type
    solid STATE SPONSORED ECONOMY.
    pOST INDEPENDENCE , and till to date IT IS CRONY CAPITALISM
    However for MARKET ECONOMY WALLAHS , HERE IS A SALUTORY LESSON FROM THE ULTIMATE MARKET ECOMY COUNTRY
    People queing in their CAR (oh yes everybody has a car) about 500 of them at 0200hrs(yes you are reading it correct).
    The news had gone out that DOCTORS ARE COMING IN THE MORNING FROM OTHER PLACES TO PROVIDE FREE MEDICAL CHECK UP in the community Centre.So they are let in one by one in the morning.
    One guy works in the construction (In indian parlance it would be labourer)
    BUT EARNS ONLY 5000 DOLLARS PER ANNUM(US bloggers please confirm the veracity). He has a LARGE , and as i could make out a scrotal hernia.
    Obviously he has been sitting on it for years. Now this place can only diagnose.
    For surgery he has to go to hospital , he has NO INSURANCE , anual average insurance costs 30000 Dollars/annum.Thwe cost of surgery without insurance is 20.000 dollars. The wife was trying to control her tears BUT NO REVOLUTIONARY RHETORIC COULD BE HEARD (this is ANGLOSAXON PROTESTANT FOLKS)
    Next is MICHIGAN . In USA the STATE IS NOT BOUND BY LAW UNLIKE UK TO PROVIDE ACCOMODATION.
    Thus TO CUT COST HUGE TENT CITIES have grown up iby the side of MOTORWAY OR HIGHWAY as they say in America. the council have erected 500 tents and packs all the prople who do not have home AND THEY CANNOT KKEP UP WITH THE DEMAND.
    The last was a guy who used to be CAR MECHANIC , he lost his job , but true anglosaxon character , he has taken up a job , but with that pay he cannot afford the rent of a proper house. So he lives in a down and out area MOTEL with his wife and three kids packed into one room. These American kids , a seven yr old was so mature , he can eat alive a 16 yr old indian kid.
    He said he fears all the sounds of gun shot all round him.
    Again the wife was barely able to controlher tears , yet said hopefully we will be get out of this place soon(OH YES THERE WAS NO TALK OF JIHAD)
    Apparently 1% of americans control25% of wealth. Thus the movement WE ARE THE 99%.55 million americans hAVE GONE HUNGRY AT SOME POINT IN ONE YEAR.
    The programme showed schools providing meals for children at lunch break
    AND PACKING FOOD FOR THE WEEKEND FOR CHILDREN TO TAKE HOME.
    Detroit looked worse than Beirut , TOTALLY DERELICT , ABANDONED , CRUMBLING
    No Wonder Indira gandhi used to took a pot shot at PHONY GEEZER , gurcharan das .She told “Here comes a MARKET WALLAH” ,meaning jihad for market economy.
    As they say ALL THAT GLITTERS IS NOT GOLD
    i still beleive MIXED ECONOMY IS THE BEST AVAILABLE ECONOMIC SYSTEMA
    But that’s for another day

    33% americans do not have a health insurance

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr Shan
    I have witnessed the 60s problems, 70s problems, 80s problems, the PVNR/MMS/Montek revival, aftermath ..

    I am not advocating a “free fall” capitalism or free market, but a capitalism with rules/regulations, safetynets, etc. I am not for a “mixed” economy where Govt controls production – if at all it should only be in defence industry.

    Now coming to 60s. We would not have survived if PL 480 from America was not there. (I remember my school days, no rice available, limited wheat (distributed through PL 480 aid program) available through ration shops — first time we had “gothamba Kanji” (wheat in boiled water instead of the usual rice kanji),,

    I remember Chinese war. The horror stories of Jawans left on mountain tops without armaments..stories of Jawans cursing Nehru and Gen Kaul (and defence minister Krishna Menon. I remember women across India contributing part of whatever jewellry they had to the defence fund..

    Nehru’s pride and ego would not let him take anybody else’s advice –Rajaji, Piloo Mody etc had wonderful ideas.. But the fabian socialism of Nehru wouldnt want any of that. We got stuck in the stupid five year plans..the irony is that we are still stuck n those five year plan, while its inventor Soviet union is all gone, and the successor Russia does not ahve any of these plans!

    His daughter finished what he started. While Nehryu was principled, his daughter was contemptuous of producers, threatening them for political contributions.

    We did not have to be an Africa-like nation in 21st century. In the same token, may be their foresight helped us to form a nation that will withstand the test of time. Almost all the countries who got freedom around that time did not survve as free nations

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    I concur with your description of sixties ration system. I have stood in lines for hours
    to get few kilos of wheat/sugar and few liters of kerosene.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And the solution suggested is “dole” – in the form of Food Security Bill.

    Ask our friends on this blog living in the UK – they would tell you how it has ruined that country. Congressis can’t think beyond it without explaining how is it going to be sustained and what effect would it have on the rest of the people.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The problem with the Food Security Bill is not what you are visualizing.

    We need to produce enough food sustain the initiative and also need a very efficient PDS. Read the concerns expressed by Sharad Pawar.

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  • Anonymous

    Another govt employee is murdered in UP, apparently in connection with the Rs 10,000 crore NRHM scheme – he is the fifth to be murdered in the last 12 months.

    This may have an impact on Mayawati’s election — depending on whether this is widely covered by the Hindi newspapers there as well as on local TV

    Parvez, any insight?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    UP is the land of idioms and muhaawaras. And the one applicable here is

    “Dead men tell no tales…”

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    engrich Reply:

    india needs sharia laws.european laws cannot change anything.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    engrich–

    I am slowly converging to that thought! Fear of consequence is a motivator

    Anonymous Reply:

    et tu, Gopi!

  • Anonymous

    If no seats you will be accomadated in toilet.

    http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/02/16/194995.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    On our campus, going to the loo is sometimes termed as “going to Pakistan..”

    So the passengers from Paksitan were going to pure Pakistan

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Parvez,

    Apt definition of loo at your campus.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Gud one! Maybe the pilot thought they needed to go to “Pak-shit-stan.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes. When shit is everywhere in Pak-shit-stan, why make an exception for the toilet?

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    engrich Reply:

    anything is possible in pakistan.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Gopi

    It could be a good solution. There would be competition among the new states to do better. As I see it, most huge commercial corporations topple in case they become huge. And UP is not as efficeint as a commercial corporation as the motiveis not . For the leaders it is just power. money and power.

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  • Anonymous

    1. Mr. Modi is running and a constitutionall elected govt unlike Sonia who is running by proxy. The solution that she and her NAC comes up with is doles and more doles.

    2. Justice has been done – leaked SIT reports are there before you. I don’t know which court needs to clear Mr. Modi – the one at 10 Janpath or one in Karachi?

    For all the ills in the country Sonia and her son G doesn’t need to be blamed, but if a Muslim can’t buy a house – cry Modiland – huh!!

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    engrich Reply:

    gujrati muslims especially khojas/memons were more rich than hindus from long time.millions of them are running succesful bussines in gulf, saudia,london and other parts of india.this has nothing to do with modi or its govermnt policies.they are muslim converts from bania having same qualities.
    those who murdered 2500plus indians should be punished according to indian law.most of modis police oficers are in jail amit shah kicked out of gujrat.
    bjp leaders are incompetent and nuts cannot win election without perpetuating communal riot.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    why is our own Tehelka man, Sir Prahlad, is not showing up?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Looking for cover after Rahul’s paper tearing fiasco..

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  • Anonymous

    engrich – this is only for you. others please excuse.

    Modi wud organise riots, kills Muslims like u and still rule Gujrat… u can keep on cribbing

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And the FRAUD called pisswhar , WILL REJOICE AT THE SALUGHTER

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar this is horrible as humour. You dont have to lower yourself to Engrich’s level…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ??????????

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Now it is your turn to justify Rahul’s drama of tearing SP manifesto.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Iswar, just edit this out. A lot of people wud use this agianst u for long…

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    Post edited

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  • Anonymous

    Shan, Mahesh, Gopi et al

    Poverty and the Return of the Licence-Permit Raj
    ————————————————

    This is in response three posts

    1) Poverty / deprivation in the USA by Shan
    2) Two youngsters try to live on Rs. 26 per day….. by Mahesh
    3) Gopi blaming two former Prime Ministers for the poverty in India.

    ———————-

    Imagine the whole world were to have the standards of consumption as prevalent in the USA vis-a-vis food and non-food resources.
    Every country / society is aspiring to have the same standards is besides the point.

    The questions –

    1) Would there be enough food and other resources to go around?
    2) In how many years (not centuries) will it take this planet to become barren and see the end of the world as we know it?
    3) Will the powerful countries exterminate the weaker ones to get hold of the resources in order to sustain their own?

    I wonder, if there has been any study say by FAO as to what is the optimum number people this planet can support indefinitely at some X level of nourishment for them to remain healthy.

    In an earlier blog I had posted a link regarding food shortages

    http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_world-lacks-enough-food-fuel-as-population-soars-un_1643948

    As of today, the world population is close to 7 billion. The earth cannot support an infinite number of people.

    Has the time come or likely to come in the very near future for the world to start rationing the world’s resources in equitable and restrictive manner – shades of our own much maligned Licence-Permit Raj or communism?

    Just one example to show how the resources in India are being wasted. Just go around see the number of vehicles in Second-hand/Pre-owned Car Showrooms across all major cities/towns. The cars there would good for another at least 4 to 5 years at least. As of now there not enough buyers. In the “good old days” in India, cars was a luxury and the family managed with one car for a lifetime.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    1. Man has a great survival instinct and is very innovative. We may see in future
    a technology which will produce more food from the fertile land and probably from
    infertile land also.
    3. If we see serious shortage of food/water then powerful countries will exterminate
    smaller one to survive. Initially they well use money power and latter their weopons.
    Fittest and powerful ill survive.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ManoharT , Nature has its own way of controlling population. More people , MORE POVERTY STRICKEN PEOPLE, More infant mortality , malnutrition , malaria , lack of drinking water , Hepatitis , cholera , food will all lead to natural way of keeping population down. Also Competition for resources will lead to maoist, seccesionist , be it khalistami , kashmiri, kamtapuri(that is north bengal)
    or gorkhland , and then HUMAN TRAFFICKING IT IS INEVITABLE
    As for USA are you aware ORANGES were left to rot in open fields of the size of a small state , JUST SO THAT THE PRICES OF ORANGE JUICE CONCENTRATE do not go down.
    Scientific American did publish an article ?1yr ago, whereby a SIX story huge car park size concrete building can produce enough food in PLASTIC TRAYS to sustain 1000 people .Solar energy being harvested at the same time

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    My issue was not with the specific PMs, but their policies – I do admire Shrimathi Gandhi for her guts and Nehru for his commitment to democracy.

    Regarding wastage – I sense the world is aware of limits, finnacial meltdown has made westerners “save” and not to waste. Indians never wasted stuff, even if they squandered on expensive jewellry etc.

    I am of the firm opinion that new stuff will be discovered/invented to take care of population induced problems. “Malthusian theory” has been discarded..Look at India — isnt its uplift (partly due to lot of educated people to perform outsourcing tasks) a result of population rise? Did India and China go bananas due to population rise? Of course, there should be decrease in the rate of growth, which China is pursuing aggressively, and India thru persuasion.

    Trees were at peril because of the over usage of paper.. Now the “print” industry is in decline with other forms taking its place.

    I agree that as custodians of this earth we should be quite cognizant of limits, sustainability etc. At a micro level actions should be taken to prevent examples such as our bureaucrats/politicians converting agricultural land into high rise shopping centres

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ HOW INDIAN EDITORS ARE PURCHASED AND SOLD !!! ~~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————-

    As I type this, I have Vinod Mehta’s autobiography ” Lucknow boy” in my hands.

    He quotes an investiation done by him for his paper “the Sunday observer” in 1985.

    And surprise surprise… Giri lal jain, the Editor of TOI got his paper to back Reliance totally with articles and features in corporate saga.

    And

    And

    And

    Vinod Mehta traced the “F” series of debentures of Reliance worth Rs 30 lakhs gifted by Ambani to Giri lal …

    Wah Wah !! Just gives some answers on the Radia scam where newspapers were falling to give publicity to corporates…

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————————~~ THE CONGRESS FREES ITS RIOTER—– kishori lal ~~~ afzal and kasab rejoice~~ YOUR TIME WILL COME~~~~~~~
    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    The Congress has rewarded another of its own– Kishori lal — murderer and communal rioter AND KILLER OF 8 INNOCENTS IN HATE AND COMMUNAL RIOTS.

    YET nobody in the Congress haas said anything. . All our inwardly smiling. Sheila ji. Sonia Ji, RahulG…. wah wah Wah !!

    When the turn of Kasab will come… they will then start shouting Modi Modi… and secretly free kasab.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When Kasab’s turn comes-and I am sure it will come shortly- he will be taken in a grand procession with Rahul Gandhi and Digvinash Singh leading the procession.

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    engrich Reply:

    what europeans says about 26/11,

    KASAB FRAMED BY ISRAELIS?
    Not Ajmal Kasab?

    Ajmal Kasab

    Mumbai suspect Ajmal Kasab claims he was framed by Israelis.

    And by India’s secret service (RAW).

    Ajmal Kasab alleges that the TV footage recorded by a Pakistani channel GeoTV (which was shown in the special court) “was made at the behest of RAW and Israeli officials.”

    Kasab said he learnt this from some crime branch officials. (Kasab now claims RAW accused him of spying )

    On 25 December 2010, The Washington Post reports that Mumbai suspect Ajmal Kasab “told the judge he came to Mumbai as a tourist and was arrested 20 days before the siege began.

    “On the day the attacks started, Kasab said police took him from his cell because he resembled one of the gunmen.

    “They then shot him to make it look as if he had been involved in the attacks and re-arrested him…” (Mumbai gunman demands trial by international court )

    Ajmal Kasab claims that the the Indian secret service, RAW, took him into custody on 6 November 2008, and later handed him over to the Mumbai police.

    The Mumbai attacks were on 26 November 2008. (Kasab claims RAW custody )

    Kasab says he arrived from Pakistan by the Samjhauta Express and travelled to Mumbai as a tourist 20 days before the November 26, 2008, assault.

    He said he was detained while strolling on Juhu beach and falsely implicated in the 26/11 case as he had facial similarities with one of the Mumbai attackers.

    The 22-year-old today told the court: “I would like to consult the Pakistani authorities,” including passport officials.

    The judge rejected Kasab’s plea for trial by an international court.

    (Kasab now claims RAW accused him of spying)

    Reportedly, India’s spy service RAW, copying Israel’s Mossad, kidnaps people in order to create patsies.

    “The Daily Mail’s investigations indicate that RAW, for the past many years is following the policies of Israeli intelligence agency Mossaad…

    “Mossad has managed to create many fake terrorists out of the innocent Palestinians and made them to confess the crimes they never committed.

    “The Daily Mail’s finding indicate that these tactic were adopted by RAW in the late 90s and suddenly the number of Pakistanis, arrested in India with terror charges started increasing dramatically by the late 90s while Ajmal Kasab being the latest in the series.” (The Daily Mail – from Pakistan)

    Ajmal Kasab says that the American David Headley, who is alleged to be a CIA agent, interrogated him, with four whitemen, in his cell at the Mumbai police custody after he was captured. (Mumbai attacker Kasab retracts confession, claims meeting US terror suspect)

    Kasab claims he was interrogated by FBI officials and that David Headley was one of them. (26/11 trial: Kasab was interrogated by Headley )

    According to Ajmal Kasab, “The police have killed the main accused who resembles me and they told me that his name was Abu Ali.”

    “I am his look alike. His height and face resembles mine,” Kasab said. (Kasav’s U-turn, retracts 26/11 statement )

    The Guardian has reported on the framing of innocent people in India.

    In 2008, in The Guardian, we read:”It was after the 2001 parliament attack that the first serious questions began to be raised.

    “A campaign by a group of lawyers and activists exposed how innocent people had been framed by the police and the press, how evidence was fabricated, how witnesses lied, how due process had been criminally violated at every stage of the investigation.” (Arundhati Roy: Mumbai .)

    The reports about Ajmal Amir are contradictory and confusing.

    1. One moment we are told he stayed for several days at the Taj Hotel; the next moment we are told he got straight off a boat and started a killing spree.(NDTV.com: Terrorists stayed in room 630, had many visitors)

    2. There are reports that he had bullet wounds and reports that he did not have bullet wounds.(No bullet hit Kasab, no active treatment on, says hospital’s dean)

    3. There are reports that one of his fellow gunmen was arrested at Cana Hospital and reports suggesting that nobody was arrested there.

    (According to the BBC: “2120-2200: Gunmen raid the Cama and Albless Hospital … One attacker is captured here.” – (BBC NEWS South Asia Timeline: Mumbai under attack)

    4. There are reports that Ajmal Amir speaks fluent English and reports that he is a rather illiterate and poorly educated criminal.

    According to the BBC, “Indian officials originally portrayed him as a middle-class boy who spoke good English.”But subsequent reports suggested he came from a remote village called Faridkot, where his father sold food.”He had received little education, the reports said, and had spent his youth alternating between labouring and petty crime.” (Profile: Mohammad Ajmal Amir Kasab)

    5. We are told that 8 gunmen were arrested and then we are told that only Ajmal Amir was arrested.(“The Maharashtra Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh told Associated Press that two British-born Pakistanis were among the eight gunmen arrested by Indian authorities.” – Four Mumbai terrorists ‘had links with Britain’)

    6. We are told that the gunmen at the railway station and elsewhere were white men and yet Ajmal Amir is reportedly from Pakistan. (BBC NEWS Mumbai attackers create ‘killing zone’ / Mumbai Attackers were ‘Hindus’ and ‘White Men’ )

    7. We are told that the gunmen who shot Karkare spoke Marathi and then we are told that it was Ajmal Amir and his Pakistani friend who shot Karkare.

    (The Marathi daily ‘Maharashtra Times’ said the terrorists who targeted Anti Terrorism Squad chief Hemant Karkare were speaking Marathi fluently. (i.e. they were not from Pakistan) Reportedly, traditional Jews from Mumbai, who have migrated to Israel, speak fluent Marathi and are known to have been recruited by Mossad.)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In front of this procession, mr rape and his guru, Engrich will coo a lpve song for Kasab,

    “Muridke se aaya mera dost…
    Dost ko salaam karo…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Let us see how Congressi-Jihadis react to this development.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Rajeev

    Engrich’s comment below shows what he and his chela, Mr rape are fabricating in Tora Bora….

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  • Anonymous

    Rahul Gandhi’s nautanki in full display. He pretended to tear list of SP’s promises but in reality, the list was names of Congress leaders.
    This is what Congressis do..fool people

    http://khabar.ibnlive.in.com/photogallery/3047-1

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The congressi troll on this blog will be mighty happy at the nautanki of his idol.

    He was, hitherto he was cribbing that only Sushma Swaraj, Anna Hazare and some opposition stars were doing nautanki.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    All have gone into hiding.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mr rape did come out of Tora Bora for some time…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like his leader got raped by his own lies.

  • Anonymous

    After a long time I travelled by train in India, from Bombay to Gandhidham, a 15 hours journey. I was pleasantly surprised as things have improved since I travelled on the same
    ruote about 11years back. Left exactly on time and reached on time. Clean compartment,
    clean toilets. Bed sheets, blankets and napkins provided were fresh and were not smelling.

    Twice during the journey whole compartment was sweeped and toilets disinfected. Indian railway has improved a lot in last few years. Overall a good experience.

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  • engrich

    for aaloke and shenoyv,

    MAHENDRA KUMAR, who was state unit president of the Bajrang Dal, is famous for his role in the spate of church attacks in 2008. The Justice Somashekara Commission had passed strictures against him relating to his role in that incident. Currently, an active worker of Janata Dal (Secular), Kumar tells Imran Khan that he’s a reformed man.

    Time for pennace Kumar spent 42 days in jail after the 2008 church attacks

    Photo: S Radhakrishna

    EDITED EXCERPTS FROM AN INTERVIEW

    Why did you leave the Sangh Parivar?
    I was with the Bajrang Dal for 16 years and served as the state president for four years until my resignation in 2009. During the 2008 church attacks, the state government faced a lot of flak. In order to save the government, they emotionally blackmailed me by saying they would put me behind bars for two days just to show the world that action has been taken. However, I ended up spending 42 days in prison. That was the turning point of my life as prison provided me a space to contemplate and reflect on my life. Even after my release, I took another year to come out of the Parivar during which time I was not involved in any organisational activities.

    What is your understanding of Hindutva now?
    Hindutva is a political strategy and it has nothing to do with Hinduism or the welfare or benefit of Hindu society. Playing on emotions, projecting wrong history and some negative points of the minority community, hatred is sown among the Hindu youth. It has been the strategy of the RSS to target minorities to consolidate Hindu votes for the BJP. When it was in the Opposition, the BJP raked up the issue of hoisting the tricolour at Hubli’s Idgah Maidan. By arousing sentiments, it created a statewide struggle, which led to communal clashes and lives were lost. But the same BJP government is in power and it is least bothered about this issue now. All these issues were raked for gaining political mileage. There is also a caste and class angle to it.

    What is the caste angle?
    Most of the top leaders of the Sangh Parivar come from the forward caste. None of their children are into active Sangh activities. Mostly, they are software engineers and well-settled. It is the youth from the backward and lower castes who fill the rank and file. And it is they who finally pay the price. Look at Gujarat, most of the youth languishing in jail for the 2002 riots are Dalits and people from the backward castes.

    How much control does the RSS have on Bajrang Dal?
    The VHP is a wing of the RSS and it is its job to keep a check on Bajrang Dal. And the RSS keeps a check on the VHP.

    Can you give us some idea about how much of their politics is influenced by local/national issues?
    It’s mostly national. Earlier, the Ram temple issue was a turning point. It has been replaced now by issues like terrorism and conversions. These have become the rallying point to influence the youth. State issues play a factor but not that much. The major issue in Karnataka was of Datta Peetha. It was made out to be the Ayodhya of the south.

    Recently, there have been several cases of Sangh activists getting caught for their role in bomb blasts that were earlier ascribed to Muslims. What is your take?
    The tragedy is that the greater role played by the RSS hasn’t been exposed completely. It is fringe organisations like Sri Ram Sene and others who are accused or caught. Whereas in fact, the main brain behind all these is the RSS. I have been campaigning and telling people that due to the few instances and actions of fringe elements in the Muslim community, you cannot hold the entire community responsible. And my understanding says that the Muslims of this country are largely peaceful, except a few fringe elements. But, the larger threat to this nation is posed by RSS and organisations like them who want to control the Hindu society through their divisive politics.

    Recently the Sangh Parivar held a Hindu Samajotsava in Hubli and Dakshin Kannada, in which many ministers took part. What purpose do these events serve?
    The BJP has lost its face due to internal bickerings and the exposure of several ministers involved in corruption scandals. BS Yeddyurappa is also threatening to break away from the party if he is not suitably rehabilitated. There is a fear among the BJP that if this happens they might lose the vote of two strong communities. Hence they are in a process of consolidating the Hindu vote bank as they will have to face polls in 2013. The recent incident of a Pakistani flag being hoisted in Sindhagi was meant to polarise the Hindu vote bank.

    Is there any discontentment within the Sangh Parivar?
    The middle- and lower-rank members are angry with the top leadership for siding with the government on issues like corruption. Their constant shielding and defence of top BJP leaders has brought discontentment among the workers. But since there is no place for dissent and questioning in the RSS, nothing much is coming out

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  • Anonymous

    The other Godhra. This is also a part of Gujarat.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/The-other-Godhra-an-oasis-of-peace/articleshow/11919892.cms

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    Dr Mishra Reply:

    mohan thanks
    “We constructed Prerna Dham, an all-religion centre depicting the essence of all faiths, in the village. On their part, Muslims have imposed a ban on non-vegetarian food around Salalshah dargah in the village where majority of devotees are Hindus.

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  • Dr Mishra

    mohan thanks

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  • engrich

    Rank
    State
    Tax Revenues


    India
    ₹3,033,087 crore (US$615.11 billion)

    1
    Maharastra
    ₹451,777 crore (US$91.62 billion)

    2
    Andhra Pradesh
    ₹323,369 crore (US$65.58 billion)

    3
    Uttar Pradesh
    ₹296,417 crore (US$60.11 billion)

    4
    Tamil Nadu
    ₹273,424 crore (US$55.45 billion)

    5
    Karnataka
    ₹252,620 crore (US$51.23 billion)

    6
    Gujarat
    ₹179,578 crore (US$36.42 billion)

    7
    West Bengal
    ₹169,910 crore (US$34.46 billion)

    8
    Rajasthan
    ₹150,741 crore (US$30.57 billion)

    9
    Kerala
    ₹138,221 crore (US$28.03 billion)

    10
    Haryana
    ₹136,291 crore (US$27.64 billion)

    11
    Madhya Pradesh
    ₹127,222 crore (US$25.8 billion)

    12
    Punjab
    ₹118,022 crore (US$23.93 billion)

    13
    Chattisgarh
    ₹72,382 crore (US$14.68 billion)

    14
    Jharkhand
    ₹70,748 crore (US$14.35 billion)

    15
    Orissa
    ₹66,181 crore (US$13.42 billion)

    16
    Bihar
    ₹37,036 crore (US$7.51 billion)

    17
    Jammu and Kashmir
    ₹34,644 crore (US$7.03 billion)

    18
    Assam
    ₹32,238 crore (US$6.54 billion)

    19
    Uttarakhand
    ₹32,202 crore (US$6.53 billion)

    20
    Himachal Pradesh
    ₹27,409 crore (US$5.56 billion)

    21
    Goa
    ₹23,251 crore (US$4.72 billion)

    22
    Tripura
    ₹4,725 crore (US$958.23 million)

    23
    Meghalaya
    ₹4,592 crore (US$931.26 million)

    24
    Arunachal Pradesh
    ₹2,711 crore (US$549.79 million)

    25
    Manipur
    ₹2,685 crore (US$544.52 million)

    26
    Nagaland
    ₹1,776 crore (US$360.17 million)

    27
    Mizoram
    ₹1,547 crore (US$313.73 million)

    28
    Sikkim
    ₹1,368 crore (US$277.43 million)

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  • Anonymous

    This is the season for awards.

    The congress party too has decided to give awards to its various “artists” under different categories. Luckily I have had access to “inside” information on some of the “items”.

    Since this is the first time, and Gujarat riots are just completing a decade, the “awards committee” has decided to include performances for the whole decade into consideration, while seeking nominations. Any reader of HT/Vinod Sharma’a blog can vote.

    THIS IS A SPECIAL FAVOUR GRANTED TO THIS CATEGORY OF VOTERS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE SERVICES RENDERED BY HT AND VINODJI.

    The actual nominations will appear in my next post.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The winners will be picked by a panel made up of Smt. Sonia Gandhi, Rahul Baba and Priyanka Gandhi.

    SINCE GUJARAT RIOTS, PARTICULARLY WHAT HAPPENED POST-GODHRA, WINNERS OF THESE AWARDS WILL BE ANNOUNCED ON 28TH FEBRUARY, 2012, THE TENTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE RIOTS.

    THE NOMINEES:
    ————————–
    1. Life time award for reminding the nation of the “silent era”:
    1. Manmohan Singh, 2. Sonia Gandhi 3.Sharad Pawar (for being mostly unintelligible)

    2.The Best Actor in a comic role: 1.Mani Silencer 2. Digvinash Singh 3. Renuka Chaudhary.

    3. The Best New Face of the decade: 1.Robert Vadra 2. Robert Vadra 3. Robert Vadra.

    4.The Best Singer (for singing different tunes on the same day, as per the situation): 1. Digvinash Singh, 2.Salman Khursheed, 3. Kapil Sibal.

    5. Best back-ground Music Director: 1.Ahmed Patel, 2.Amar Singh, 3. Kapil Sibal.

    (More in my next post)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    6. Best speech writer:
    1. Jawed Akhtar (for his “maut ka saudagar speech)
    2. Kapil Sibal (for his own speech declaring that there is zero loss in the 2G scam)
    3. Digvinash Singh (for his speeches declaring Anna Hazare, Ramdev, Advani, Vajapayee, Sai Baba, etc all frauds and CALLING OSAMA Osamaji)

    7.Best Script (for various scams):
    1. Joint nomination for A.Raja and Chidambaram for the best script in the 2G scam
    2.Suresh Kalmadi for his outstanding script in the CWG scam.
    3.Ashok Chawan for the script in the Adarsh scam.

    8.Special award for Best Acting: Rahul Gandhi

    9.Special award for the Best performance of the decade: Priyanka Gandhi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    beautiful!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    NO 3 wins all the prizes. Even India Today has featured him on the cover!

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  • Anonymous

    Here are some profound “truths”

    1. Sex is a three-letter word which needs some old-fashioned four-letter words to convey its full meaning.

    2. No game of love has ever suffered for want of light.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy

    Wonderful. One of yours best.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    “The light has gone out of our lives…”

    These words have special meaning now.

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  • Anonymous

    I found it hard to believe …but its true.. there was a 40 col cm news item in TOI today on the BJP campaign in UP. How did it happen ? ….someone shall pay a price for that. The sale of media space during this UP election would probabaly rank as one of the biggest media space sale deals. It is intriguing that during the entire period there is not one col cm or a 5 secs byte either to BSP or the BJP. Ok … BJP may be a bit player but what about the BSP ? Is Priyanka Gandhi and her two boys and Robert

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    Congress is expert in this game and they have lot of money to spend which they have earned from recent huge scams.
    Most of the mainstream media is bought by them

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rahul’s paper tearing Nautanki was blacked out most of English media. I think media is rooting for congress for vested interests.

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  • Anonymous

    A lady teacher told her students that every week we will have a period where students will
    ask questions on any topic and she will answer. Some students ask her few questions which
    she answered. Then Papu got up and asked ‘ teacher, what is that part of the body which
    is surrounded by hair and sometimes water comes out of that part ‘ Teacher was embarrassed and said that she did not know the answer. Papu said ‘ teacher, it is very simple the answer is Eyes. ‘ Teacher thought that she was unnecessarily suspecting
    Papu of asking an ‘A’ question. Next week again in the same period after some students asked their questions, Papu got up and asked the same question again. Teacher said
    ” the answer is eyes ” . Papu said ” no teacher, it is that part of which you were thinking last
    week”

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  • Ravi

    Dr Shan

    You have been asked to confirm my identity.

    I can appreciate your embarrasment at the question, as if my identity is an issue.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi Singh has been super-imposed on the image. What an Idiot!!!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Rajeev

    he needs to prove that loves humanity and hates terror! What is a photograph?

    Even i can put my mug under hrithik roshan’s name…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He thinks we all come from Shikarpur.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju-

    Dont shortsell urself– May be u r better looking than Roshan .. if not you can always say you have a beautiful mind…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thank u… I hope it is true! Though u r the first person to have said this… !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sorry it simply cant be you, first of all this guy is younger than you , also somebody with that kind of face cannot compose the prose that you do.
    balwinder will suit to a T

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    Ravi Reply:

    Dr Shan
    Thanks. In the picture I am 49. I will be 63 next B’thday.

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  • Ravi

    Balwinder

    I am sure your IT manager can confirm that this can be faked

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    Anonymous Reply:

    even your humour is fake.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    No, We are not satisfied. We will like to see front and back of your credit card with your name on it.
    Prove it to us that you are ???
    ;)

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  • Ravi

    Vijay Kumar

    Ofcourse as you know many Pakistani’s now a days calim dole assuming Hindu names.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well Ravi, all I can say is that the likeness with Mohan Bhagwat is uncanny! the same moustache and looks.

    You did choose an appropriate image for Disqus!

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  • Ravi

    Gopi

    A book you must read

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Are you a janitor in some company? Typical muslim profession in UK.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    The Iron Laws of the Earth Sciences
    P. Sainath

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/columns/sainath/article2900955.ece?homepage=true

    Going by the form book, Union Science and Technology Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh is due for a promotion. He’s just been mangled by the Mumbai High Court, setting some sort of record for a Minister getting roughed up by the higher judiciary. And every time some amazing act of the former sarpanch of Babalgaon has landed the government in deep trouble, he’s been rewarded, even promoted. The classic instance being Prime Minister Manmohan Singh elevating him as Union Rural Development Minister soon after a Supreme Court judgment that would surely have cost most others their job. The apex court had fined Mr. Deshmukh Rs. 10 lakh for stopping a moneylender from being arrested in Vidarbha while he was Chief Minister of Maharashtra. Unless you see usury at criminal rates of interest as a vital plank of rural progress, Dr. Singh’s logic was hard to follow. And the Maharashtra government even paid up the fine for Mr. Deshmukh.

    ———-

    Read on

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    So why would he be inducted in the central cabinet? It does not look like Congress is in a great shape in Maharashtra, NCP, Sena, and BJP seem to have a combined strength more than Congress….

    Of course electoral calculations are important – but I just do not understand why both the leading parties cling on to the corrupt, have beens..

    A strong Lokpal would have kept these guys out of govt!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The problem with the Congress is its high command culture – they decide who gets what and where.

    This man – Vilasrao Deshmukh’ s story makes a very strange reading. Is he plain lucky or more loyal than the family itself or a political heavyweight that cannot be ignored? I have no answers at all.

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  • Anonymous

    Special: Eight reasons why Sena-BJP won the BMC polls

    http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/report_special-eight-reasons-why-sena-bjp-won-the-bmc-polls_1651508

    The Shiv Sena-BJP combine has been ruling BMC and Thane Municipal Corporation for 17 and 20 years respectively. The mood in general was against the ruling parties on the issue of pothole-ridden roads, poor garbage management, unclean water bodies, and crumbling city infrastructure.

    ————-

    Read on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    In a way good result that Congress fielded their kith and kin and people just rebuked.

    In a way bad that Shiv Sena is entrenched in Mumbai. Well, democracy for you

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right. Even if Congress had won in Bombay, it would not have made much difference to the city, because the Congress politicians use the city only as milch cow in order to favour their constituencies elsewhere in the state. The Congress does not have influential local leader(s) who swear by the city, so they probably did not deserve to win.

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  • Anonymous

    NCTC: Mamata, non-Congress CMs oppose it; Centre tries to allay fears

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/NCTC-Mamata-non-Congress-CMs-oppose-it-Centre-tries-to-allay-fears/articleshow/11925903.cms

    The plan for creation of the ambitious National Counter-Terrorism Centre (NCTC) has come under attack from non-Congress Chief Ministers, including ally Trinamool Congress, but the Centre rejected criticism that it would infringe on the states’ powers.

    ———

    Read on

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is the number 1 issue why we cannot have a good counter terrorism program. Any program has to be driven by the centre, and I just cannot understand why states should be given any right here..Of course, theer has to eb communication channels between state police and the central counter terrorism apparatus….

    Mamta is crazy; she is a goner

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It is obvious, the opposition is for the sake of opposition – plain politics, fight against terrorism be damned.

    Mamta is on fast track to make herself irrelevant outside Bengal and without the help of the centre, she will not be able to do anything regards development and progress in her state. God save Poschimbonga.

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    AshishC Reply:

    Manohar,
    our polity is becoming so sharply polarized that opposition will mean opposing only- anything and everything.
    I remember Shekhar Gupta on NDTV blaming Congress for behaving like a party in opposition- especially in states where it is not in power and he quoted Orissa as an example, where Congress’ dog in the manger like attitude has stymied all project clearances in the state.
    Today, I watched Naveen P on TV and remembered Shekhar Gupta.
    As for Mamata, the day is not far when Poshchim Bongo will unite with Purbo Bongo- and folks like me will need a visa to go visit. One basket case deserves another.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right. All parties are in the business of opposing each other to score brownie points – country be damned.

    “Anti-Cong group in works?”

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Anti-Cong-group-in-works/Article1-813115.aspx

    Power has gone into Mamata’s head. Wait for a month and see the disaster that awaits us in the Railway budget. I will be damned, if she allows Dinesh Trivedi to take any steps to put the railways back on track.

    “Railway could go Air India way if money not pumped in: Trivedi|

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Railway-could-go-Air-India-way-if-money-not-pumped-in-Trivedi/articleshow/11930201.cms

    ——-

    The sooner she takes an appointment with a shrink, the better for her and Poschim Bongo, as she herself is in serious need of ‘poriborton’.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I dont know what UTTER BOLLOCKS you are talking about. How can Poschim bongo unite with Purbo Bongo,Remember those famous words EAST IS EAST , WEST IS WEST , AND THE TWAIN SHALL NEVER MEET.(pronounced by Mougli)
    I mean Paschim bongo HAVE BEEN GANG RAPED BY CPM FOR 35 YRS. So what do you expect mamata will change things overnight. MAMATA’S GREATEST FLAW IS LACK OF INTELLECT AND LACK OF INTELLECTUALS AROUND HER.
    Manohar T SHOULD DO WELL TO FOCUS ON MARATHI MANOOS.
    MARATHI NATIONALISM IS THE BIGGEST CANCER THAT WILL EAT INTO THE BODYPOLITIC OF INDIA.
    Nitish , Hermaphrodite Pattanayak have opposed the Anti Terrorism outfit which can bypass the state, BUT YOU CHOOSE TO PICK MAMATA.THE
    GREATEST CHANGE IN POSCHIMBONGO ONE CAN WITNESS IS THERE IS FREEDOM TO SPEAK AND POLICE AND EVERYONE CAN SPEAK THEIR MIND.previously under CPM , the byword was Chhatri Key Nichey , meaning under the protective umbrella of CPM , otherwise your status is that of an american in theHaqqani terror den.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan

    Granted the Comrades really really messed up West Bengal during the 35 years they had the stick in their hand. What of Mamta Bannerjee? She is turning out to be her own worst enemy and in the process that of Poschim Bongo. There does not seem to any move to reverse the fortunes of Bengal. Looks like the biggest stumbling block is, who else? Mamta Bannerjee

    As of other chief ministers, they are of course also playing politics. The BJP, which never tires of talking about ‘fighting terror’ with a firm hand, blah, blah, blah has also joined in – Shivraj Singh Chauhan and Narendra Modi. The same party wants even more draconian law(s) to be implemented, as long as these laws are initiated by it.

    In all probability, this NCTC confrontation will used to disrupt the parliament during the budget session. Even god cannot save India.

    ———–

    Kolkata blues

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/kolkata-blues/913493/0

    Those who can, do. Those who can’t, well, they lead. The Trinamool Congress has a manner of attributing decisions whereby the road always leads upwards to “Our leader Mamata Banerjee”. Not “our chief minister”, but almost always “our leader”. This is not only the mark of a party that still hasn’t come to terms with the fact that it’s no longer the opposition. It’s also the mark of a party uncomfortable with governing, unable to shed old rhetorical shorthands, exposing thereby how concentrated power remains at the top and how frivolous or ridiculous the exercise of that power can be while the rest of the party — note West Bengal’s persistent confusion of government with party — enjoys the nirvana of thoughtlessness.
    ——-

    Read on.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Ashish

    This is the UPA India. Nothing happens just debate. Frankly this is the outfall of the low level of politcs the Congress has played thru Digvijay and rahul.

    When they can go all out to break al norms of balance, fairness and secularism, other parties will so the same for their own power and freedom.

    engrich Reply:

    gopi here i totally i agree with u.

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  • engrich
  • engrich

    a lesson for modi and zardari,

    http://www.dawn.com/2012/02/17/2493765.html

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  • engrich

    http://www.savethemales.ca/001049.html

    history of winston churchill by henry maow.ravi bhai shan and balwinder jee must read.

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————
    ~~ BHARAT MATA KI JAI ~~ vs ~~~ HAFEEZ SAEED KI MAA KI JAI ~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————-

    @ RAVI

    You have to accept that people on this blog are at loggerheads with you– not so much on whether you are living in Tora Bora, karachi or London– but because you love Osamaji and salute the Pakistani flag while defaming India, especially, HIndus.

    It is possible you are a Mona Sikh in London, as you claim. Or maybe you are a lonely ISI double agent out to defame India, as many believe. But in my eyes, your agenda ends up making fun of Bharat Mata and saying “HAFEEZ SAEED ki MAA ki JAI.”

    At a personal level I was lucky enough to escape from a bomb blast in Delhi, almost unhurt. Others sufferd heavily. But I know deep in my heart that I missed death by exactly one second– my car was exactly one second from hitting the bomb. From then on– I have a mission to hurt jehadis. anti-nationals and turds. I cannot join the army. But sometimes when I am alone I think of soldiers who have to give their precious lives becasue an ideology you support, wants to undermine this country.

    So as long as you say “Hafeez Saeed ki maa ki jai,” there would always be a Vijay Kumar, barking at you, “Bharat Mata ki jai…”

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    engrich Reply:

    At a personal level I was lucky enough to escape from a bomb blast in Delhi, almost unhurt.

    bomb which was planted by abhinav bharat.

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    engrich Reply:

    You have to accept that people on this blog are at loggerheads with you– not so much on whether you are living in Tora Bora, karachi or London– but because you love Osamaji and salute the Pakistani flag while defaming India, especially, HIndus

    u are wrong ravi bhai never salute osama jee maharaj he is anti-sangh jee maharaj.hindus too are victim of sangh jee maharaj.vinoyv can give employment to hafeez saeed jee maharaj lahore wale in his tailoring shop.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A certificate from you is the worst thing for Ravi..The best thing for him will be to dis-associate from terrorist minded people like you,

    engrich Reply:

    what i spoke is truth not a certificate. my mind is unity .i dont need any certificate fromu.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Great. You have given voice to the feelings of most people on this blog who love Inida.

    His identity is not important. His ideology is very important. It is a destructive ideology, trying to strike at the very root of the idea called India.

    THIS IDEOLOGY AND THE CARRIERS MUST BE DESTROYED.

    WE MUST STOUTLY OPPOSE PEOPLE LIKE MAHESH, PRAHLAD AND THE CONGRESSI TROLL WHO SUPPORT EVERY WORD THESE JIHADI DUO (FAKE RAVI AND ENGRICH) UTTER SUPPORTING TERROR, PAKISTAN AND TERORISTS LIKE OSAMA.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    Well we do need to combat the destructive ideology Ravi and Engrich symbolise. Agreed.

    As far as the rest go… well it is all about debate. I guess there is not much you will agree on. Fine they have a viewpoint. I have mine. They have theirs.Even if there is fireworks… its okay. After all this is a blog and fires will be lit.

    Someday they will win. Maybe someday I will. Yeh toh zindagi hai…

    Chalta hai… yaar

    PS: a) look Mahesh, I havent taken a jibe at ur luv of desi porno and cheap daru. Thank me for that…

    PS-2: Prahlad, now dont hide under the sofa and create spin for Robertji… We are waiting ur comments…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS

    I have disagreed with Ravi on many things including his tendency to quote from Martha and Wendy as if they were gospels.

    However, I do not think he has ever admired or justified Osama – may be I missed those blogs.

    Egrich has supported and defended Osama based on his theory that 9/11 was not an Osama directed stuff, but a zionist-brahmin plan.

    Egrich destroyed his fellow Muslim Zia’s blog. He is set to destroy Vinod’s blog too.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    Fake Ravi’s quoting from Martha Baum and Wendy Doniger extensively and approvingly, is only a part of his run-India-down mission. engrich is giving him full moral support.

    Both of them are ardent admirers of Osama, holding him innocent of all crimes against humanity.

    In the past one year, these two jihadis have denigrated India any number of times, quoting Wendy/Martha about 5000 daily rapes of dalit women by upper caste men.

    engrich Reply:

    ossama had problem with america and saudi regime not with india or indians.i dont support him.750 top intellectuals of america confirmed through letter that 9/11 was an inside job.

    america wants to control the world so has problem with every
    peaceful of world.

    ossama died 4 years before abbotabad operation.his family was living there.as usual they killed many innocents.

    i know u will not like my presence on blog as i question ur statements.

    Anonymous Reply:

    —————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~THE FUNNY PART OF RAVI’s identification parade !~~~
    —————————————————————————————————–

    I think we all missed the funny part of Ravi’s ID parade or charade as some would say.

    Shan made a jibe about his looks and I dont want to say anything on this.

    BUT THE MAN IN THE PICTURE HAD A WALRUS MOUSTASCHE ” !!!

    WAha hahahah waahhww !!! Hahahaha !!

    In the end Ravi sports a walrus and keeps railing against walrus moustaches’ !!! Is he double agent then?????????

    By the way the smile did remind me of a certain Gen Zia…now eating mangoes in the sky with diamonds…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    Bharat Mata/India is eternal. Terrorism is a big threat; hopefully a passing phase.

    This is the land where Bharatha waited 14 years for his brother, the rightful king to come back. He could have ruled, could have chosen to be the emperor of this rich land, he did not have to give the kingdom to Rama.

    This is the land where the Queen Mother uttered “Yatho Dharma Sthatho Jaya” instead of wishing her son victory in the battle of all battles.

    We know Sonia is not that queen mother. Rahul does have the tendencies of Bahratha, but his wisdom is questionable — is Vadra his Rama?

    Coming back to terrorism – yes, it destroys life, kills families, promotes fear..
    I want to treat the crimes of NHRC Health fund stealing, the corruption of our so called leaders (Deshmukh, Pawar, Mayawati, Lalu, DMks … big list) also to be treated like another form of terrorism, stealing national wealth.

    They are doing the same thing that Ghazani Mohamed did centuries ago at Somnath. They are looting. They are staying away from raping and conversion because there is no money in that; otherwise they would have.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    This is a story of anything for power. And power begets money. But to get power you need money. A full cycle…

    For me the worst abiding memory of the UP polls is Louise fernandes oing around saying thast she had converted and Muslims should vote for her. If the same thing was done in Kerala or any part of India by Christians or Hindus with a candidate who says that “I have left Islam and converted to Hinduism or Christianity… vote for me..” Commuinal riots would have started.

    Even Vinodji would have written a reprimanding blog on it.

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  • Anonymous

    Colorado student quits high school choir over Islamic song praising ‘Allah’

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/15/colorado-student-reportedly-quits-choir-over-islamic-song/?intcmp=trending

    A Colorado high school student says he quit the school choir after an Islamic song containing the lyric “there is no truth except Allah” made it into the repertoire.

    ——-

    Read on.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    Fox, I am told, is famous for drumming up anti–Muslim fervour. It is a Murdoch operation.

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  • Anonymous

    Manohar/Shan

    Why didn’t they rename West bengal to “Bongo” instead of the mouthful Paschim Bongo…

    Would Bangla Desh object? So what even if they do.

    May be they can still do. Will save a lot on bill boards.

    [Reply]

    AshishC Reply:

    Gopi,
    as you know, we Bongs have a lot of time to waste.. Poshchim Bongo consumes more time, ink, bytes…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Ashish

    Cheers. Nomination for the remark of the month. And I am going to mail this to few bong friends !

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    also, why do we have “amicus curie” (??) .. could we get those also renamed??

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Amicus Curiae can be renamed as Museum piece.

    No chance of any spelling mistake.

    AshishC Reply:

    Amicus curie.. hmmm.. curious.
    Let’s file a curative petition, amigos!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Aashish,

    Good one.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi & Ashish

    The ’story’ goes likes this – when talks are held to ascertain and allocate funds to each state by the central government, each state is called for discussions in (English) alphabetical order. By the time it was the turn of West Bengal, being at the bottom of the table by virtue of the ‘eccentricity’ of the above order, there were hardly any funds left for the state. So as part of the ‘poriborton’ (Oh, I love using this word) , it was decided that the pecking order needs to be relooked into, so that West Bengal is not left with crumbs. To do this, the name of the state had to be changed. Bengal (dropping the West) was one of the names suggested – that would have sent the state to almost top of the heap. But “our supreme leader’ would have none of it (not ‘poriborton’ enough) and she came up with Poschim Bongo or whatever, thus only promoting her state a few notches above in the hierarchy.

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  • AshishC

    Shan,
    I may speak utter bollocks, but never in capital letters.. let that pass.
    I am much more charitable about Mamata- actually, I think Mamata or Buddhadeb is not the point- the people of my benighted state are- they are the biggest enemies of their own and by electing jokers like Mamata and Buddhadev, they are showing their lack of sense.
    CPM is “left”, but Trinamool is left of CPM. CPM took 35 years for the gangrape, TMC will do it in 3.
    The recent few times there have been some crisis or the other- really minor ones (see the rape in a moving car case or the baby deaths) and TMC’s reaction has actually precipitated a full-blown crisis.
    See the reactions from TMC:
    : what was a mother doing in a night club?
    : Is she a member of an escort service?
    And, to the baby death cases: Mamata says, don’t forget these women conceived during left front rule. Priceless.
    I hope and pray Congress manages to kick TMC’s sorry *** into the Bay of Bengal- and for this reason, and this alone, I wish SP and Congress team up in UP post-elections.
    Mamata’s greatest flaw is her lack of intellect- how true! I hope that is not a qualification for those aspiring to lead the state.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish

    Some incidents stay “green” in ones mind. The hospital fire, the childrens death in the state hospitals etc while sad were just news…one could argue, rationalize, and settle “oh, this is after all India”..

    But an early January morning incident in Kolkotta filled me with tears, made me ashamed as an Indian. It also showed how empty CPM was in West Bengal (CPM has done a lot of good things in Kerala).

    That January morning, one Usha Devi, the wife of a poor riksha driver, died while giving birth to twins on the main road side. The incident, if newspaper reports could be believed, happened in front of a hospital that turned her away without admitting her.

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    AshishC Reply:

    Gopi,
    the genteel bongs reserve their gentility for their own..

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    engrich Reply:

    as always i fully agree with u.security should be delhi subject not state.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ashish;
    Can not believe. Mamta said: These were conceived during CPM period? Wow. this quote can be categorised as height of…

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    AshishC Reply:

    Pankaj, trust me; she did. It was repeated in the quote of the week in TOI Delhi’ as well.

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  • Anonymous

    This London dream has parts missing
    Manas Ray

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article2904488.ece?homepage=true

    There’s a strange urge to define Kolkata — to bring the city down to a phrase, an epithet, a word — of which Gunter Grass’s “a bloody great mess that was dropped by God and called Calcutta” is perhaps the most flamboyant. Collectively, they refer to the city’s stagnant economy, poverty, squalor and civil disarray. But what exactly is meant by the claim made recently by Amit Chaudhuri that Calcutta as a city is fast vanishing?

    ———–

    Ashish, Shan and others.

    Read on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Many interesting comments follow. One such

    I am a Calcuttan who has lived in this city for over 40 yrs. These days, getting back to the city from Mumbai or Delhi feels like landing at a communist Russia airport coming from London or New York. For me the defining difference is not the dust, grime, dirt of the city (no CNG yet) compared to the gloss of Mumbai, where the luxury on the street is enough reason to turn capitalist, but the difference in attitude to the rule of law. Kolkata is the city where the auto-rickshaw wallah, the pavement hawker, the urchin from Bihar, is the law. It is their democracy and to hell with the law whereas in Mumbai and Delhi the law is feared and respected.

    Why this difference? Thirty four years of communist rule, which politicised the police and gave them bangles to wear.I don’t want it to become London. I just want it to get back to the city of the bhadrolok that it was in my younger days. I don’t want to take it away from the auto-wallah or the Bihari. Just let them become bhadrolok too.
    from: Tapas Bandyopadhyaya

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  • Anonymous

    @Anindyo Chatterjee, ManoharT , Gopi ,
    This the Rmail I had sent to Trinamool’s office before the elections
    oming election‏

    [Mark this message as unread] [Delete this message]
    [Keep this message at the top of your inbox]
    14-03-2011
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    Shan

    To governance@aitmc.org
    Dear friends, i am a surgeon based in uk
    I want to get actively involved ,to see the backside of this vermin called CPM. I am massively well read , and well travelled.
    I am making a few suggestion. THE WHOLE THRUST SHOULD BE FOR BREAK FROM THE PAST.So it should be projected as trinamool will try to usher in a SECOND BENGAL RENAISSANCE, infact I am happy to contribute for a full page advert in ananda bazar patrika.
    Next as a measure of break , WRITERS BUILDING should be abandoned and a WORLD CLASS architecture should come up near the airport which will be seat of the govt. this sends two signals , that we are breaking away from the past and to attract foreign investors landing at DumDum you need to stun them into falling attracted to the state as investment destination.
    A truly WORLD CLASS university at par in facility with cambridge , and harvard(you need to aim high) built in purulia or bankura or midnapore . The money can be collected from donation from expatriate indians Mr Amar nath Bose of USA of the BOSE music system can be asked to help. A landmark sixty storey building to send the message to rest of india that we are tall gain. This should be in Alimuddin Street to rub salt on the wounds of CPM and either coca cola or pepsi or ibm can be roped in to construct it as a regional HQ for SE asia.
    The problem of healthcare or particularly doctors unwilling to go periphery can be sorted in one go. All the districts will have medical colleges AND 90% intake WILL BE FROM THE DISTRICT. So when they graduate , they will be near their home.
    The entire health service needs to be decentralised, WITH EACH DISTRICT RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING CONCERNING HEALTH
    that is recruiting , training doctors nurses , paramedics , purchasing equipment ,in short RUNNING THEIR OWN BUDGET.
    next is education, LET BENGAL BE PATH BREAKER, all schools english medium with 300 marks for vernacular, incorporate vocational subjects like hair dressind , tailoring , cookery, baking science , brick laying, carpentery ,plumbing all as legitamate subjects for choice.I am aware of the need of good teachers. DIGITALISE AND MAKE EDUCATION VIRTUAL REALITY.
    All the courses or the lectures in school can be prerecorded in a studio and made massively interesting with aid og video graphics.
    This can be stored or accessed by schools with password from a website and projected onto a screen with a projector from computer. This will standardise teaching, put an end to teacher absenteesm. The cost saving will be enoromous in terms of salary to teachers.Also again let bengal show rest of india , by establishing a CENTRE FOR COMPARATIVE EDUCATION to study teaching techniques syllabi and everything connected to teaching IN ALL DEVOLOPED COUNTRIES.
    A whole day should be only for PE and games LIKE IN FRANCE.
    If you think I have something to contribute , please do come back to me.DR S.K …. , FRCS.
    WHAT ABOUT MY ASSERTION , WHY NO BODY COMMENTED ON MARATHI MANNOS /MARATHI NATIONALISM , the fact this is a GRAVE CANCER that will eat into the bodypolitic of India

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr Shantanu

    Good that you sent this letter. Please resend to Mamta with any additions/changes.

    I do not agree that there is a “cancerous Marathi nationalism” brewing. One should not equate pride to negatives. There are a lot of things Marathis can and should be proud of. One just hope they do not name any more buildings with Chatrapati Shivajis name — Also Shiv Sena is bad –if that is what you mean by growing nationalism. You have to keep in mind that Shiv Sena (Maharashtra for Marathis) was formed based on the success of DMK in Tamil Nadu (separate “country” for Tamils, non-Tamils out of Madras city etc) — DMK evolved (as a party to steal money, got rid of parochial notions); Shiv Sena still harbours the “founding principles” — I will take the Italian mother and son any time compared to the Thackrey goondas.

    Well, in Pune, Shiv Sena lost seats compared to the last corporate elections. They used to have 20 seats; now only 15. NCP/Congress won Pune, may because Pune is more cultured…(well, one has to choose between two evils)

    Maharashtra is a “happening” place. Most of the promising young Hindustani classical musicians of India come from Maharashtra, not from UP or other northern “musical region”. Sanjeev Abhayankar, Ashwini Bhide, Aarathi Anglekar, Rahul Deshpande, Sameer Dubley —- the list is long. Marathi stage is vibrant, Marathi literature rich (may be a knot less than Bengali lit!) .
    My interest in Indian history, in the great old books of India all were triggered by my exposure to two Marathi novels – “Yayati” by VS Khandekar, “Mruthyunjaya” by Shivaji Samant – both won Jnan Pith awards …Yayati has been enacted as a stage play by Girish karnard. I read the Malayalam translation of these books ; I believe these books are translated into many other languages including English. I recommend these two books to all – new things under old lens.

    Now coming to regionalism, localism, nationalism (what is the right word?) – I believe India of today is well-integrated from a language/region perspective; television/internet etc as well as the new business enterprises has helped it, as well as the maturing of a newly independent nation. In fact, a national platform is well built for a leader to take it to the next stage. Unfortunately, it is difficult for a leader to emerge in the current political system. Hazares movement was a step in the right track.

    I hope Modi takes the platform and help us leapfrog.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shaan Nirad Babu,

    why are you afraid/ashamed to quote your name?

    Shaan:”The money can be collected from donation from expatriate indians Mr Amar nath Bose of USA of the BOSE music system can be asked to help…

    Mamta di, I am happy to contribute 100 sterling pounds in 10 equal monthly installments to this grand idea of mine…”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That money will be CLEAN HONEST HARD EARNED MONEY, unlike yours which is CUT MONEY DEMANDED IN LIEU OF RELEASING BANK LOANS TO HAPLESS CUSTOMERS

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shaan Nirad Babu,

    why are you afraid/ashamed to quote your name?

    Shaan:”The money can be collected from donation from expatriate indians Mr Amar nath Bose of USA of the BOSE music system can be asked to help…

    Mamta di, I am happy to contribute 100 sterling pounds in 10 equal monthly installments to this grand idea of mine…”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan

    All very good suggestions. The problem is that Mamata Bannerjee does not have the wherewithal to appreciate and pay heed.

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  • Anonymous

    In holidays mein roz khaye hain kebab or pi hai sharab
    in aadaton ne kar diya hai mera pet kharab
    ab biwi ne lagaya hai khane peene par lagam
    Kuch dino ke liye na mileage kabab aur na milegi sharab.

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  • Anonymous

    @Gopi Thomas, Today there was a conversation between Omkar Goswami and NarayanaMurthy and his better half , Sudha.
    Sudha Devi said people have different priorities,”We both come from teaching family , for us reading a good book or listening to good music is more enjoyable than decorating your home”
    PERHAPS BENGALIS ALSO HAVE A DIFFERENT PRIORITY , here is an example

    Kolkata Museum of Modern Art under construction

    Calcutta, 18 July 2011, Art Media Agency (AMA).

    Construction on the Kolkata Museum of Modern Art (KMOMA), designed by the Swiss company Herzog & de Meuron, has started in the city of Calcutta, India. This is one of the largest construction sites in India since the 1950’s, when Le Corbusier designed the city of Chandigarh.

    The museum will comprise nine floors, forty-four galleries, an auditorium and the country’s largest amphitheatre with 1,500 seats. A library, research centre and restoration workshops will also be created and an adjoining building will feature a restaurant and various shops.

    The collection of the Kolkata Museum of Modern Art will be exhibited in four different wings. KMOMA will also display Indian visual art ranging from colonial to post-colonial eras, along with western and eastern art from Japan, China and Korea.

    KMOMA will be the first museum of modern art in the city. The construction work is scheduled to end in 2015 and the final project will be one of the largest Asian institutions, as reported on the website Internet Business Standard.

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  • Ravi

    कशगारी की शर्म करो आज वर्ना हम
    हर शब् पिया करते हैं मै जिस कद्र मिले

    With due apologies to Asad Ullah Khan, Manohar and Ashish

    Indonesia’s deporting of Kashgari to Saudi Arabia was an immoral and a despicable act of cowardice. In doing so Indonesia has compromised its sovereignty and has unquestioningly accepted the hegemony of Saudi Arabia. It is difficult not to parallel this activity with that of the UK Government acquiescing to the USA’s request of extraditing Gary McKinnon to America on Hacking charges.

    In today’s Guardian Tahima Kazi writes a piece condemning Kashgari’s extradition. What is extraordinary about this article is that it represents a growing number of Muslim’s redefining Islam in its basic spiritual terms. Tahima is asking Muslim’s to view Islam from the prism of its original spiritual content, rather than the militant, political and fundamentalist view the Saudi Monarch & Mullah combo are force feeding the world.

    Tahima is not the only one who is fighting back. Another remarkable event is the release of a new blockbuster film entitled WAAR. This movie – with unusually high production values – is an attempt to galvanize Pakistani middle class against Jihad. The story centers around a team of anti-terrorist police officers who, with time running out, try to stop a new attack. Other than cinematic innovations (at least for Pakistan) what is remarkable about this film is that it is supported by the Pakistan Army. Let’s hope it emboldens the secular elements in Pakistan and the society there redefines religion as a personal addiction.

    Final evidence that change is afoot can be gleaned from the fact that Lady Warsi is moaning about “Militant Secularisation” and the Vatican is applauding her.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Wahhabism is spreading very fast. The Indonesia incident you have mentioned
    is one more of numerous incidents we regulary hear. Where as you think that
    ultimately moderates will take over the reigns of Islam, but in my opinion
    hard liner fundamentalists are gaining ground at alarming speed. There are not
    many who follow Tahima Kazi, she is only discussed in drawing rooms of elite people
    who after praising her for few minutes and then go on and donate money to build
    another mosque/madrasa to increase their influence – or should I say that they pay hafta for their survival -their position among hard liners. The whispers of people like Tahima is
    barely heard .

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    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    The Second Coming

    Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

    …………………………..

    I remain perpetually in debt of WB Yates

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Whenever you post such poems, please post translation also for mortals like me
    to understand.

    Ravi Reply:

    I can but apologise.

    My rendition of Urdu Sher did carry an apology and I have added one to the English one too.

    Many interpretations of this poem are available on the net. My explanation would be mine, rather than your reaction to it. The first is of no great importance, the second would grow you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    you are right there.

    This fake Ravi himself is viewing India and Hindus through the broken Islamic prism given him at Muridke.

    The whole of Pak society is fundamentalised like not even a hundredth of Indian Muslim society is. If sanity has to become a distinguishing feature of Pakistani society, the whole if it has to draw back from the precipice.

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    engrich Reply:

    another mosque/madrasa

    mosque and madarssa were in india from thousnds of years.peoplewere living side by side like brothers as in dubai.hate is coming from outside from those who want to conquere universe.

    in bolivia local population is not allowed to collect even raniwater as water is privatized and sold to bolivians at high price which many of them cannot afford.specially aboriginal.
    madarssa and mosques bring message of love and unity not hate ordivision.

    angrezi hai jahan
    ghareebi hai wahan.
    problems hain wahan
    nafrat wahan
    angrezi hai jahan.

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    engrich Reply:

    galvanize Pakistani middle class against Jihad

    ravi bhai JIHAD I is protest of haves not against the loot of nation on various pretexts.till gap between poor and rich will remain very wide and wealth generated poors will be swallowed by their rulers, jihad against these thieves will continue.honest distribution of wealth is the only remedy of malady,not the films.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Ram Autar

    The Jihad referred to in my post is the more narrowly defined one, which is trying to roll back evolutionary influences so that the Islam of the Book and the culture of 8th Century Arabia is the only one that is practiced.

    The film – I believe focuses on this Jihad.

    Other Jihad’s are not what I was alluding to.

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    engrich Reply:

    pak ruling class hate jihad as it is protest of of poors against their filthy rich rulers.booty they dont want to leave or distribute.cause of jihad is economic deprivation and loot not islam.evil forces of the world redirect this towards religion.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Engrich forget all this jehad nonsense. Do bhangra… balle balle…

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  • Anonymous

    Yesterday no one appreciated my . Here are few more.

    _________
    At a cocktail party, one woman said to another,
    ‘Aren’t you wearing your wedding ring on the wrong finger?’
    ‘Yes, I am. I married the

    _________
    A man is incomplete until he finds a spouse. Then he is finished .

    __________
    A little boy asked his father,
    ‘Daddy, how much does it cost to get married?’
    Father replied, ‘I don’t know son, I’m still paying.’

    __________
    A young son asked,
    ‘Is it true Dad, that in some parts of Africa
    a man doesn’t know his wife until he marries her?’
    Dad replied, ‘That happens in every country, son.’

    __________
    Then there was a man who said,
    ‘I never knew what real happiness was until I got married,
    And, by then, it was too late.’

    _________
    Marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence.
    __________
    If you want your spouse to listen and
    pay strict attention to every word you say — talk in your sleep.

    __________
    Just think, if it weren’t for marriage, men would go through life
    thinking they had no faults .
    __________

    __________
    AND NOW FOR THE FAVORITE!!!

    Husband and wife are waiting at the bus stop with their nine children.
    A blind man joins them after a few minutes.  When the bus arrives,
    they find it overloaded and only the wife and the nine kids are able
    to fit onto the bus.
    So the husband and the blind man decide to walk.  After a while, the
    husband gets irritated by the ticking of the stick of the blind man as
    he taps it on the sidewalk, and says to him, ‘Why don’t you put a
    piece of rubber at the end of your stick?  That ticking sound is
    driving me crazy.’
    The blind man replies, ‘If you had put a rubber at the end of YOUR stick,
    we’d be riding the bus, so shut the hell up.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, I liked all he jokes and the last one the most.

    I have begun wondering whether, as complete men, we are finished. What next?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    We are already finished. Vijay’s turn will come very soon.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Gud ones !! Gives all the reasons for not getting married…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Stick or joystick , the humour slapstick

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    Ravi Reply:

    More like besmirching of ones face with a lipstick.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Good jokes. The last one is best. I heard this joke years back but the characters were different. The words of blind person were uttered by V.K. menon, ex defence Minister of India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    You were in Bangalore not long back with Shenoy. I would like to host you too.
    Where are you? Any plans of coming to Delhi?

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  • engrich

    Nanotechnology turns plants into common plastic

    Feb 17, 2012, 10.43PM IST

    Dutch scientists have found a way of turning plant matter into the building blocks of common plastics using a nanotechnology process that offers an alternative to oil-based production.

    The team from Utrecht University and Dow Chemical Co produced ethylene and propylene – precursors of materials found in everything from CDs to carrier bags and carpets – after developing a new kind of iron catalyst made of nanoparticles.

    Existing bioplastics, which are made from crops such as corn and sugar, have only limited use as they are not exact substitutes for oil-based products.

    The new system, by contrast, produces chemicals that are the same as those made in petrochemical works, allowing them to be used in a wide range of industries.

    This also means they will not be biodegradable, although they will be made from renewable resources.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Nanotechnology-turns-plants-into-common-plastic/articleshow/11930370.cms

    Nanotechnology, which involves designing and manufacturing materials on the scale of one-billionth of a metre, is a rapidly expanding area of materials science with applications in medicine, electronics and coatings.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Engrich,

    What happened to you ? I hope you are doing fine. In your post you have not mentioned
    Islam, brahminism, Zionism. Are you changing ? Should I start celebrating?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    I think we have managed to change Engrich for one hour. Hooray !!… aisa bhi ho sakta hai woh rum ke barrel mein slip ho gaya…

    Engrich, I think you should forget all the lectures in tora Bora and wahabbi nonsense and all what Sita ram kesri taught you. WHy dont you join the NCC, boy scouts and improve more.

    By the way in case you start spouting all the jehadi, zionism, brhmns etc.. we will thiink that the the improvement is over..

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    engrich Reply:

    wahabism is muslim zoinism.this philosophcy cme from europe
    in days of lawrence of arabia.exact opposite of rss.nothing to do with islam.

    engrich Reply:

    tum jitna pahte ho hum usse zyada bhool chuke hain.brhmnsm and zoinism are the only 2 anti-people forces in the world who are hrting
    hunanity.u can see urslf.u cannot live in bombay,while living with full respect and security in dubai.islamic values are far far better than european/american values.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Engrich,

    There is a reason why Dubai is safe. Read my reply to Ravi short while ago, I have mentioned the reason.

    engrich Reply:

    from istamboul to jakarta culture is same.same was during moghul rule of india.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Lagta hai tora bora lectures will never get out of ur head.

    Let me ask you…

    a) Does the earth revolve around the sun or the sun revolves around the earth?

    b) Is the earth flat like a carpet or round?

    Of sp,epne gives wrong answers… will you agree with him or will call him worng?

    engrich Reply:

    did i ever said anything above.

    Anonymous Reply:

    l think I posted the “mental hospital telephone helpline” in the wrong place. It should be addressed to this sado-********* pervert suffering from several Hindu-phobic mental disorders.

  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~ WILL INDIA RELEASE THE MURDERING ITALIAN SEAMEN???? ~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————–

    As we know two fishermen have been shot and killed by Italian crew.

    It is possible that a section of India will just say, “poor whitemen… they killed the dark Indians by mistake… thinking them to be pirates. Now if we put them in jail for homicide, how will the whiteman cope up with Indian conditions… let the poor guys go…”

    I think we should kick S M Krishana in the centre of his bum if he follows this logic.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Italian has more value in our country than an Indian. Nothing will happen to him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    That is what I fear.. In case an Indian had done the same to Italian fishermen near Italy… he would have instant justice. Here… afzal guru and kasab are the Indian standards of justice.

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ HOW TO REFORM ALL all ALL all ALL RELIGION !!! ~~~~~~~~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————-

    It would be a sad day if religious fundamntalists end up blowing this world. Well the earth is the only planet known to sustain life…

    But the way things stand today, idiots, madcaps, fundoos are willing to kill, maim and torture just to forcibly convert or shove what they think are the proper message of god or of faith.

    The only to confront them and funddos is to make make a list of phenomenon explained in religious books and then contrast it with sceintific discoveries.

    And all this should be plastered on the net, taught in schools, everywhere…

    beleive me all the fundoos will look like jokers…

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan,

    You were in Bangalore not long back with Shenoy. I would like to host you too.
    Where are you? Any plans of coming to Delhi?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Thank vm for the invitation. Appreciate the gesture. I am in train now and will reach
    Bombay in few hours. On tuesday 21st I am flying back to Dubai. Next time when I
    am in India will try to come to Delhi. Thanks.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Great !!

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  • Anonymous

    simply wasted the readers time by bashing bjp unnecessarily, rahul, akilish, or some other, all are become leaders over night because of dynasty, how come you compare them with politicians who have grown in party system, person with your dynastic mentality would have recommended prathiba advani to bjp top post, but such things never happen in bjp

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Koshi

    U r right..although after Mahajan’s death , some in BJP tried to put his junkie son in the front—had he not been a junkie, he may have taken the leadership!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    I think Antony and Oomen Chandy handled the Italian ship issue well and firmly. What is your impression?

    In Bidar, the Bangalore police have arrested a gang of 26 Iranian con artists, who used to rob women of their necklaces and bangles by conning them. They would come to the city by flight from Bidar and after the robbery, they would fly to Goa or Mumbai and splash their wealth in 5star hotels etc.

    But, the Delhi police who went to arrest suspected bombers of Iranian nationality, they were mobbed by a hostile crowd and beaten back. The Sheila Dixit administration suspended 5 policemen!

    These are election times. Cannot afford to take risks-even with Iranian terrorists or con artists.

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  • AshishC

    Shan, Manohar, Mohan, Gopi et al..
    Watch out, lest পশ্চিম বঙ্গ (Poschim Bongo) is renamed পশ্চাৎ বঙ্গ (Poschat Bongo- loosely translated as Backward Bengal).
    Anyway, enough of this self-flagellation.. I love that city, grew up there and did exactly half of my schooling and some more education as well from Calcutta based institutions.
    Went back recently on a family vacation; good fun- winter times, it is one of the best cities to spend a week in.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @Ashish, Incredible it may sound , the keralite(there is still a sizeable population) woman Mrs Jacob and gujrati(there is a large population) Mrs desai I had met in calcutta reckons CALCUTTA IS THE MOST CIVILIZED CITY in India.According to Mrs desai Chennai is no cleaner than Calcutta .
    I say this on oath, I mean come to think about it , there is NO LARGE SCALE MAFIA like Dcompany or whatever in calcutta . THE LAST RIOT IN CALCUTTA WAS IN 1946, my late Jetha had written a novel on that riot.
    VIJAY KHANNA CAN RELOCATE TO CALCUTTA , he may have cirrhosis of liver , but very unlikely another TERROR ATTACK will stalk him
    Any way this what a HT reader wrote today in another forum , here is copy and paste
    Jogu
    The culture of Bengal has deteriorated due to massive influx of UP-bhhari Bhaiyas and then the Gujju-Marwari businessmen community. All the cases of eve teasing in plaush areas in Kolkata have at least one Gujju-Marwari guy. Check Kolkata police website. ALL the “most wanted” criminals are either Muslims (80%) and ALL are from UP-Bihar. these criminals get patronage by the marwari-Gujju’s from Burrabazar area. This vegi and non-vegi criminals are a deadly combination to bring down any civilized society, anywhere in the world.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Did you have sweet from balram mullick , did you have biryani from shiraz.
    Apparently MITTAL had ordered 120kg of KORA PAK gur sandesh from Balaram Mullick. DID YOU SEE ANY THEATRE , that is one thing I miss about calcutta . I would have loved to invite rudraprasad sengupta , if somebody gave me his telephone number

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    AshishC Reply:

    Uncanny, I did buy 2 kg of baked rosogolla from Balaram Mullick, the one near Ballygunj Phari- heavenly.
    Had cakes from Nahum, lunch at Mocambo- nope, no cultural pursuits (well, you could argue, food is culture).
    Also drove in slow speed down Park Street on NY eve- opened the bubbly at home at the stroke of midnight…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Answering machine at the Mental Hospital…

    “Hello, and welcome to the mental health hotline …

    If you are obsessive-compulsive, press 1 repeatedly.

    If you have multiple personalities, press 3, 4, 5 and 6.

    If you are schizophrenic, listen carefully and a small voice will tell you which number to press.

    If you are a manic-depressive, it doesn’t matter which number you press, no one will answer.

    If you are dyslexic, press 9696969696969696.

    If you have post-traumatic stress disorder, s-l-o-w-l-y and c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y press 0 0 0.

    If you have bi-polar disorder, please leave a message after the beep, or before the beep, or after the beep. Please wait for the beep.

    If you have low self-esteem, please hang up. All operators are too busy to talk to you.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That is what every customer fared at your hands , while you were busy piling up all those “cut money”

    Anonymous Reply:

    Aashish,

    You will always enjoy going bact to the place where you grew up. I just spend three
    days at Gandhidham Kutch and had a blast.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Ashish and nirad babu

    Having spent a lttle time time in Cal on work, I always found it a pleasant place to live. I guess the whole envirnoment is being a college student on bunk. Good if your dad is giving you pocket money…

    I think the basic issue for change will only be entrprenuerial role models. Otherwise if there is happiness even in poverty and slums… who am I to object???

    I wish Cal well and pray it joins the 20th century one day… :)

    And then maybe the 21st

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  • Anonymous

    Ravi you are one mean looking dude, scared the pants offa me !!!!!!!!!!!!!! by ‘MEAN’ I mean- no oil painting.. WTF, you actually posted a pic of your ugly mug for all to mock!!!!!!!!!!!! dont geddit why wud u do that- u know you are kinda unpopular here and then you give ammo to all your baiters here
    its like u hanker for punishment like all those wierdos one reads about in UK who go to hookers and actually say spank me ????????????
    rizzy baby gave up trying to unnerstand u a long time ago

    VIJAY- our debate on muslim reservation is pending – next blog. btw, regarding Colum-bums vs DPS- heard of Shayama Chona- I rest my case. next week i will take u on , gtg bi for now

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Going to hooker to get spanked was invented by a french “landed gentry”
    his name was Marquis De Sade , that is known as MASOCHISM
    but there is a variety where beating is a form of sexual pleasure , known as sadism, as per marqis de sade , is MUCH CLOSER TO HOME
    Meena Kumari’s husband (KAMAL AMROHI, AL QUITAB SUNNAT) used to suffer from that perversion

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Rizwan

    Let me state the first obvious point. The chairman of DPS school, Salman Khurshid is playing religious reservations to the hilt. My view is stressing religion is only going to erect walls between people and create a momentum for government policy being framed on religious lines.

    And sadly as NDTV reported, his wife, Louise fernandes “wears religion on her sleeve” and boasts that she is a “ail – e- kitaaB” and had a nikaah as she wooes Muslims voters. Frankly in my view parading your conversion for votes is reversely hurting to the community from which you convert– in this case Christians.

    We are a multi religious country where religion should be silently kept in your house.

    Sooooooooooo well I heard of Shyama Chona– and even met her at DPS Noida– in relation to a project of rainwater harvesting we were doing. Admirable lady !! But… rizzy but…Rizwan…

    Salman Khurshid has fallen down in my eyes….

    There is Salman Khurshid, the showboy of Congress, a nice articulate lawyer.

    And some where hidden inside is the guy who once sent his hoodlums to bash up the gentle VC of jamia.. or is willing to woo people on religious divisions frankly in a way, we detest Togadia for…

    Ab DPS ka chairman has to do a lot of answering to this COlum-bum :)

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  • Anonymous

    Non bailable warrant against Azzuruddin for bounced cheque.
    Where did all the money go which he made during Match fixing era ?

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Cheque-bounce-case-Warrant-against-Azharrudin/articleshow/11944233.cms

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    engrich Reply:

    deal for land was called off.but solanki instead of returning the guarantee cheques ,,entered in bank.it does not mean he had no money.but i think he is short of money otherwise bijlani would not leave him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Engrich

    Typical Jehadi Tora bora tales.

    Azharrudin left his first wife, a girl from Saudi Arabia for Bijalani. He now is affet Jwala Gutta (attractive national badminton champ) who is 19 yrs old and has presented her a Mercedes.

    That is why he is short of money

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    engrich Reply:

    it means he is lucky than me and u both.

  • Anonymous

    First time I have seen AGW in train’s toilets. Indian railway is surely improving.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    AGW? Now let me see

    1) All Going Well
    or
    2) Atmospheric Gravity Waves
    or
    3) Automatic Girth Welder
    or
    4) Autonomous Guided Weapon
    or
    5) Accident Generated Water

    ????

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    It is much simpler and useful.

    Automatic gaa…d. Wash.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How does the contraption (automatically) know its about time? ;-)

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Err.. I hope they have hired pretty girls for it…

  • Anonymous

    Last month there was an incident of Pakistani flag hoisting by Rama Sene activists in a Bijapur village. It was made much of by the congressi troll here, despite the fact that it was largely ignored by the local population and totally ignored by the people of Karnataka and the media.

    now an instance of a cow being slaughtered in front of a famous temple in Kerala has come to light. Pl.read on:

    http://www.dailypioneer.com/state-editions/kochi/36090-cow-slaughtered-inside-kerala-temple-compound.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS

    A hand here, a cow there.. pretty soon Kerala will become Kashmir..

    Achuthanandan (CPM) govt was tough on organizations/parties like PDF/SDPI who were sponsors of terrorist acts..The present Congress/Muslim League govt is in cohorts with terrorists.

    Oomen Chandy is CM only in name. The real power/CM is kunjali kutty of Muslim League — Achuthanandan govt was prosecuting a “womens racket” case – “Ice cream parlour case” – involving Kunjali Kutty; all of that has been dropped under the new UPA ministry

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji/Shenoy,

    Gundo ke haath mein apna mulk aa gaya hai.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    congress ka haath gundon/aatankwaadiyon ke saath.

  • Anonymous

    RAVI bhai raaz ko raaz hi rehne dete, what need to put your Jonny Lever face to world. Already you can see generation gap here, we oldies have kept quiet but shan and riswan have straightaway zeroed in on your looks
    or lack of it hehe
    not really face that launched a thousand ships is it. Now I have seen some folks photos here and our dashing Mishraji looks very gud in his sailing photos.
    MR SHENOY SIRJI this is big occasion, pl you rise to occasion and make memorable poem on ravis dangerous looks

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Balwinder

    I wont blame him for his looks :)

    The Gen Zia smile was quite telling…

    And if you compare him to JOhny Lever, remember Johny does make us laugh. So either Ravi drops his folk tales from Tora Bora and becomes a comedian (as he tried with a disasterous result) OR jonhny Lever will keep crying and take retire from comedy!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi thought he had a mighty point to prove
    surely his friends would his face hugely approve

    We took a look at his face and felt it had remained unseen
    but the biggest let down was his friends-nowhere to be seen

    he thought the walrus mustache would go down well
    because it has made Mohan Bhagwat look swell

    But when he gave that half smile, did he have Gen.Zia in mind?
    or he believed he and Gen.Zia are two of a kind?

    But he made sure his mug shot ruined his friends’ dreams
    and children, when they see it, will raise loud screams.

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  • Anonymous

    Do you know Nahum is JEWISH, probably a handful of families still left. Last i heard mr nahum passed away , perhaps his sons are running the business

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    AshishC Reply:

    To be honest, Nahum’s standards have fallen.. I found the cakes at a neighbouring shop a lot better. Yes, Nahum is Jewish.

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  • Anonymous

    The above was in response to AshishC

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  • engrich

    अमेरिकी अदालत करेगी सिख विरोधी दंगों की सुनवाई

    i hope anti-muslim riots will also be investigated by same panel.

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  • Anonymous

    Budha buddy thx. we need as Indians to let news come out first- too many excitable people willing to run riot on religious matters. I hope peace prevails- I did think no Indianmuslim would ever slaughter a pregnant cow inside or in front of a temple

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  • Anonymous

    Budha,

    Thanks vm.

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  • Anonymous

    I hope the explanation will tell the hate-monger here to shut-up and not twist news for mud-slinging. Only hoping. Period.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ manohar

    I have not seen you give similar messages to Mr Rape from Tora Bora and his guru Engrich who keep fabricating folk tales pf Tora bora

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    Anonymous Reply:

    1) Seems I have touched a raw nerve. Must be very very painful. As they say truth hurts. Right?

    2) It is either selective amnesia or you do not read.
    I have often given a piece of my mind to Engrich on number of occasions, only if you care to remember.

    3) I have not read anything, where Ravi is has indulged in what you ascribe it to him. Even Gopi has questioned this claim.

    You can post and provide the links to ‘offensive posts’ and then we will discuss.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    He takes his lead from his Raja Mr Shenoy, who in turn is an ardent follower of the night-watchman .

    I am sure you know that the logic in operation here is:

    1. If one critically looks at Indian society, then one is anti-India and anti-Hindu.

    2. If one is designated as anti-India and anti-Hindu, then it is a short leap of imagination to be labelled as a Muslim.

    3. Now we are rolling. Once you are viewed as being a Muslim, then effortlessly one becomes an ISI agent, a job which brings in staff quarters in Muridke.

    4. From that point on, there is absolutely no need to react to any points being made, mere character assassination and personal attacks will suffice.

    5. A strategy well taught at the Indian Muridke, which goes under the name of Nagpur.

    6. These self-appointed sentinels of honour of Bharat mata are cowards of the first degree.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Oh.. ! Mr rape comes out of Tora Bora…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Another folk tale of Tora Bora from Mr Rape :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    101% agree with you. As I have said, if they cannot find an enemy, then they create one and put all sorts of labels, otherwise their digestive systems would be become unbearable, they need the daily dozes of the laxative of hate and abuse.

    Watch this space. The two abusers must be lurking just around the corner and nine times out fo ten they never fail to disappoint.

    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    One further point.

    I feel that these FUNDOs have created in this blog an atmosphere of intimidation. So much so that I get the feeling that there are a few people here who are not truly expressing their views for fear of fierce retaliation and an inevitable label.

    Given that is true, it is all the more remarkable for Gopi to stand up for me and be counted. This is despite the fact that there is very little upon which we agree.

    However, I feel that Gopi regards this blog as something which is bigger than any individual or a class full of them.

    Gopi Ji. Respect.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Speaking of those few people who are scared to express their true views. It speaks volumes about them or it is the case of sense of belonging to the group (security in numbers). Standing all alone for most is a dreadful / scary idea.

    Ravi Reply:

    Totally agree.

    I know exactly how they feel.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mr.Rape, fake Ravi,

    you ahve once again tried your hand at comedy with a long post, despite Balwinder Sandhu ticking you off.

    The fact that you were constrained enough to publish your supposedly genuine mug shot on thsi blog, shows that you are suffering from an identity crisis. And Nirad Babu will tell you that it takes time for people suffering from identity crisis and till then they cannot resist the urge to be “comic”.

    You should be happy that the congressi troll has at least clapped this time.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You claim to be a mathematics student. Cant you see the corelation between Guru Engrich and chela Mr rape? Frankly it is possible that they are one and the same person.

    Even when Engrich posts his brainwashed nonsesne, Mr Rape, time and again cooes Wah Ram Avtar Wah. Why is Engrich posting anti Hindu propoganda under three names– Ram Avtar, Tajendra and Engrich? His idea is to cause hatred between Dalits and Hindus, Sikhs and hindus, Muslims and HIndus… all of which is an ISI objective.

    Whay does Mr Rape from Tora Bora support him and egg him on and also add his own juicy rape bits. Becasue he too is the sophiticated Ghulam Nabi Fai type of ISI operator.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I requested you to post the links of the Ravi’s offensive posts.

    Why does it bother you, if Ravi or anyone supports X or Y? No one questions you going ‘waah waah’ over questionable and most of the time offensive/abusive posts by the resident abusers no 1 and no 2. Why these double standards?

    Engrich posting anti-Hindu propaganda. It is same as you and your ’saathidaars’ posting anti-this and anti-that propaganda. So why are you complaining? Moreover, your Hinduism must be really weak, not mine, to be affected by whatever Engrich posts. You need to relook at your own Hinduism, which seems to be on a really weak foundation.

    If you ‘know’ his idea to cause hatred between A and B, then why worry? Let him post anything he likes. BTW, you have no problem with the chief abuser and the night watchman indulging the same game.

    I can only suggest that put your own house in order before complaining.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I do not claim to be mathematics student, I was and still I am.

    Anonymous Reply:

    VIJAY kUMAR,

    you are being unfair here.

    How many times have you not read these lines?:

    “Beta, engrich, achche bachche aise nahin likhte.
    Dekho, tum Mussalman ho, Hindu dev- devataon ke bare mein gaali kyon bakte ho?

    Mere bachche engrich, achcha bachcha banke rehe to Vinodji se lollipop ka fool packet tumko dilawoonga”.

    If this is not strong disapproval from the congressi troll, please tell me what is!

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  • Anonymous

    Ravi thought he had a mighty point to prove,
    that he has a face his friends would approve

    We saw the mug shot and wished it had remained unseen
    But the biggest let down was his friends-nowhere to be seen.

    Did he flaunt the walrus mustache on his upper lip,
    because it has made Mohan Bhagwat look hip?

    Did he sport the half-smile with Gen.Zia in mind?
    or he thought Zia and himself are two of a kind?

    whatever it is, he made sure he destroyed his friends’ dreams
    and when youngsters see the face, there will be many screams.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy sahab U r incomparable

    We all think you are keats
    And Ravi’s thoguhts just eeeeeksssssssssss !

    Tora bora se mr Rape ne lagayi aawaz
    Osama zindabad ! Osama zindabad !!!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He looks like a typical pakistani paindoo..Must be a janitor a Heathow airport.

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  • Anonymous

    @Buddha it is not the news are twisted, THE NEWS ACQUIRE A TWISTED INTERPRETATION when enters the brain of shenoyBV, like when he extends his hand to a customer waiting for loan approval.
    That hand is facing back , in other words it BACKHANDERS that he is good at

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That is what you get, when one’s guiding principle is to use lies, falsehoods, untruths and innuendos to …..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Chingulate,

    you have shown your hate-filled split personality in this post.

    I have NOT given any interpretation, nor have done any cut-and-paste job like you do on WB. I have only given the link to the news.

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  • Anonymous

    ABIDING IMAGES OF DYNASTIC RULE IN UP
    ——————————————————————–

    “In Rae Bareli and Amethi. I did run into some older people who said that they would vote for the Gandhi family because they always had but I also ran into those who said that the Dynasty’s vaunted charisma was losing its appeal. In the words of a school principal, “We like to say that we are proud that we live in Rahul Gandhi’s constituency but look at my school, it has no walls, no proper class rooms. There are 200 children who pay Rs 30 a month and some come from families who do not pay even this for months. I can barely afford to pay the teachers. I have tried to get help from the MLA and failed.” Frankly, the horrific poverty I saw in the villages of Amethi and Rae Bareli left me quite mystified.”

    ———TAVLEEN SINGH IN INDIAN EXPRESS
    ————————————————————————

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————-
    ~~ WHY DO BONGS with such impeccable credentials END UP CREATING ~~~
    ————- A MESS CALLED PASHCHIM BANGA ————————
    —————————————————————————————————————————-

    Since this is my last posting for the day, let me throw up an idea…

    Let me confess. Despite my pulling Cingulate’s leg, whenver I get a chance, I still have Sachin Dev Burman’s CD collection on my music table– a taste inherited from my father.

    My late professor of engineering who somehow diverted my restless mind to think offbeat for solutions with clarity– was a bong.

    My right hand in my small enterpise was a bong– who would smoke 30 cigarettes and worked like a dog– he just left to join a big company at a very high salary — fair enough

    And one of my highpoints in life was of course to sit next to Sushmita Sen in a Delhi – Mumbai flight.

    But … But… But…

    When we look at Paschim Banga … where the hell is this beauty, hardwork, clarity of thought and purpose… and creativty in living????????????????

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  • Anonymous

    @Vijay kumar KHAPODIA
    TRUTH VS DISINFORMATION
    Profile & Performance
    In food and agro processing sector West Bengal is one of the three front running
    states in India. Agriculture contributes 30% in the SDP and employs 57% of the workforce. Fruits, vegetables and cereals grow in abundance in West Bengal. The state accounts for 30% of potatoes, 27% of pineapples, 12% of bananas and 16% of India’s rice production. Additionally fruits like mangoes, papays, guava and jackfruit and vegetables like tomatoes, cauliflowers, cabbage, brinjal, pumpkin, are available in plenty.

    Highlights
    Largest producer of rice, pineapple, vegetables and fruits in the country.
    Second largest producer of potatoes and lychees.
    Ranks 1st in total meat production (including poultry) in the country.
    Accounts for 10% of the country’s edible oil production.
    Substantial producer of spices, coconut, cashew nut, arecanut, betel vine and oilseeds.
    West Bengal is also one of the leading states in pisciculture. Fish plays a major role in the Bengali client. The state has been awarded the 1st prize for 8 consecutive years for its achievements in the fishery sector. Some of the highlights are:
    Largest producer of fish in the country.
    Also the largest supplier of fish and supplies nearly 80% of the carp seed demand of the country.
    Highest producer of shrimps.
    Produces significant amount of fresh water fish.
    OH YES THERE IS NO KHAP PANCHAYAT AND KHAP DICTAT ON MURDERING COURTING JUVENILES, this is your Haryana
    Yahan izzatdar woh hain jo ladki ko marte hain (Those who kill their girls are respected here)” – a teacher in rural Haryana
    anyway I cant understand WHAT THE F you are talking about.
    As for your construction trade , THE 2ND HOOGLY BRIDGE (where YUVA was shot)
    IS THE ONLY SUSPENSION BRIDGE IN INDIA , AND GRANDER THAN THE DARTFORD BRIDGE 15 mins drive from my house.
    Have you heardabout GAMMON INDIA , it had some accidents but is the main
    contractor for Delhi Metro.GAMMON is based in Calcutta .
    THE BIGGEST CONSTRUCTION PROJECT SINCE COURBOSIER’S CHANDIGARH
    IS NOW TAKING PLACE AT CALCUTTA.
    SWISSARCHITECT Herzog , is constructing NINE STORY museum of art , at a cost of 560 crores,
    Located in New Town, Rajarhat, in east Kolkata, the nine-story institution will feature 44 galleries, an auditorium, a library, and an amphitheater with a capacity for 1,500 people. The institution will build a permanent collection of both Asian and Western art. It will also include an academic wing and studios for visiting artists. Stores and restaurants will be developed alongside the museum. Rakhi Sarkar described the museum project as “the grandest project in almost five decades, since the construction of the city of Chandigarh in the 1950s by French architect Le Corbusier.” Herzog & de Meuron, who designed the Tate Modern, took their inspiration from temple architecture to create a design that synthesizes eastern and western influences, according to the Telegraph.

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    AshishC Reply:

    Shan,
    thanks for posting this meticulous compilation of West Bengal’s achievements- since these all happened under the watch of CPM government, would it be fair to say that your anger against the CPM is misplaced and uncalled for?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    His anger is directed at CPM not declaring itself a part of goons while making feeble attempts at state capitalism. ;-)

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    AshishC Reply:

    The shades of grey, Mahesh, the shades of grey.
    The trouble we have in appreciating delicious conundrums such as those thrown up by stats presented by Shan.
    CPM singing to Shan- Kya itna bura hoon main maa (okay, baap)

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Ashish and Nirad sir

    Would go in detail later as am in the middle of drawings :)

    but here are a few factual points

    a) You can never compare a single museum project- a nine storey building– to the entire city of Chandigarh which houses– maybe 20 lakh people and is spread of 100 sq km. It became the landmark for planned sector wise development of many many Indian towns. Frankly many people critscised it for being “too planned for India”

    having spent my childhood in Chandigarh, I can say it is a remarkable city which produces the finest minds (including me~!) and the finest sportsmen like kapil Dev and Yuvraj…

    b) There is a lot of violence in Bengal which you will never notice. Try starting a manufacturing unit– the vultures and unions will violenbtly destroy you. In my short stay there– a bong counterpart took me on a drive oputside Cal and showed me shells of the biggest factories– lying dead.

    Or violence in politcs. The CPM simply killed any political force which tried to get up.The TMC and the COngress bore the brunt. Now the Tranamool will physically kill any otehr politcal force which opposes it– unless it is strong and loaded with arms.

    c) Bengal has a better sex ratio than norhtern states. But regrettably it is going down. So dont gloat too much.

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    AshishC Reply:

    Vijay,
    my comment to Shan was meant to show that stats can be used selectively to highlight or not ..
    The operation Barga was a real success story- it has stopped rural migration to cities- and obviously removed food insecurity from villages in large measure. But, was it a “total” success? Well, it is a long story- perhaps we can do it over beer if we ever get to meet.
    As for the record on industrialization (not) and turning the state as a handmaiden of party, CPM has few equals. In fact the most damaging result of the CPM rule has been the effect it has had on how all parties behave- witness how Mamata was using the Indian railways to create jobs for her faithfuls- she even had jobs for actors and artists.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Aashish,

    I did not know anything about operation Barga. After reading your post, I googled and
    read little bit about this operation. Very interesting. Any such programme at
    a mammoth scale will have its pros and cons. Would love to read your views in brief
    about this.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Now I am posting a considered reaction right upfront…as Disqus working on a feeble photon connection used in a moving car on the Gurgaon highway… throws my replies into sky7 computing !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Anindyo, No need to remind you once again I am a RATIONALIST , thus objective. THERE IS NO DENYING CPM DID DO A FAIR BIT TO INCREASE AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTIVITY AND RURAL INCOME.
    How striking is the nature of bengali films that used to be financed by people as far afield as hyderabad,films like Beder Meye Jothsna , and swapan saha films. As much it may fall well below an average bengali film of sixties and seventies , there is no denying THIS WAS RURAL MARKET FORCE ACTING WITH A VENGENCE .
    But THAT WAS ALL THAT IT HAD TO SHOW FOR,
    Even Mamata acknowledged first 7yrs they did really good work
    rest 28yrs they vandalised the education , health and industry

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan, Ashish, Mahesh and others.

    9 months on, CPM packs in the crowds
    ——————————————————

    http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/PUBLICATIONS/HT/HM/2012/02/20/ArticleHtmls/Nine-months-after-its-worst-electoral-defeat-in-20022012009005.shtml?Mode=1#

    Nine months after its worst electoral defeat in West Bengal, the Communist Party of India-Marxist’s (CPM) rally at the city’s iconic Brigade Parade Ground saw the crowds returning in large numbers.

    The mammoth crowd of nearly 900,000 people, comprising party workers, sympathisers, students and farmers, not only choked the Sunday traffic but also prompted an apparently rattled Trinamool Congress leadership to react.

    “The crowd is proof of the fact that we stand on solid ground and that we cannot be uprooted,“ said former chief minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee. “In Bengal, there is no alternative to Marxism.“

    Bhattacharjee, CPM general secretary Prakash Karat and other leaders used the rally to take on the state government on various issues, including farmers’ suicide, financial situation, campus unrest and the Park Street rape case.

    “Debt-ridden farmers are committing suicide. The government first rubbished media reports, but now says these farmers took loans worth several crore. Do banks offer such huge credits to farmers?“ Bhattacharjee said “The future looks grim. From a position where Bengal used to be self sufficient in food production we are probably looking at food shortage,“ he added.

    The crowd responded with a thunderous applause when Bhattacharjee mocked the government for organising festivals across the state “when it could not even pay its employees or buy crop from farmers at stipulated price“.

    Karat used the platform to attack the Centre and accused the Trinamool of being part of “a government that is drowned in corruption and the ill effects of its own policies“.

    “The plight of farmers and suicides across India is a glaring example, just like the 2G scam. The Marxists have to counter all this with renewed vigour,“ Karat said in Hindi.

    ————

    Looks it is happening sooner than one had thought, i.e. the end of TMC’s honeymoon with the masses.

    —————-

    The reaction of the TMC is on the expected lines.

    http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/PUBLICATIONS/HT/HM/2012/02/20/ArticleHtmls/Trinamool-reacts-to-brigade-rally-20022012009006.shtml?Mode=1

    HOURS AFTER the Left organised a mammoth rally in Brigade Parade ground Trinamool Congress lambasted the CPIM, accusing senior leaders like Prakash Karat and Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee of misleading the people.

    “They have no right of speaking about farmers suicide or democracy.
    They themselves killed thousands, and burnt houses,“ said Partha Chatterjee senior TMC leader and state industries minister in a press conference at Trinamool Bhawan on Sunday. HTC

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    Anonymous Reply:

    OH Dear !!

    Pashchim Banga does produce a lot of cabbages and pumpkins as is obvious.

    Look …. I am trying to derive why the brains of Bengal cant get things right. No point in an emotional reaction….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I still can’t understand WHAT THE F you are talking about.
    The muslim population in WB is nearly 24%(which means very few crossed the border UNLIKE PUNJAB) ,the non bengali population of calcutta(including outskirts such as barrackpore etc) is nearly 60%.It has THE HIGHEST DENSITY OF POPULATION ON PLANET EARTH.
    IT HAD ZERO MONEY SENT FROM GULF UNLIKE KERALA ORFROM UK BY KABUTERS FROMPUNJAB.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    All excuses and hiding the fact that Bengal went on a wrong track of wanting to have Stalin, then Mao as the papa.

    WHat is the population ratio of original Delhites to the the current lot?

    Barra sahab,.. Bengal has to correct the midset that life is about living and WORKING and not about sloganeering. That it is easy to naarebaaz fed on PL480 rice… but difficult to give aid– U got to first earn to give it.

    And most of all Bengal has to face the fact that it is a very densely populated state and to raise the satndard of living it needs competative industry run by CAPITALISTS FOR PROFIT MOTIVE.

    Anonymous Reply:

    As for money sent by NRI’s in kerala and Punjab… Bengal should learn from it rather than disdain it or go in a loop of self pity.

    You should send some money for teaching enterprise in Bengal.

  • Anonymous

    Yesterday Shenoy provided a link to a news item which claimed that a cow was slaughtered
    in temple by three Muslims. Later Mr. Budha clarified that that event in the media was
    not correctly described. I was amused to read posts by Shan, Manohar and Ravi blaming
    Shenoy as if he had fabricated this story and posted on this blog. What Shenoy did was just
    posted a link of a news which he thought of sharing with fellow bloggers, the same thing
    we all do regularly.

    [Reply]

    engrich Reply:

    that is RSS is called rumour spreading society.their sole expertize is provocating muslims and inciting hindus.this voilent gang is lead by jews of foriegn origin with sole aim of converting india into another libya or afghanistan.
    hate is their duty while lie is their staple food.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    Please allow me to say something here.
    You need to read Shenoy’s entire post to get the context.
    Part of the post actually wondered why people can’t downplay Ram Sene’s hoisting of Pakistani flag. Here is what he said …..
    “Last month there was an incident of Pakistani flag hoisting by Rama Sene activists in a Bijapur village. It was made much of by the congressi troll here, despite the fact that it was largely ignored by the local population and totally ignored by the people of Karnataka and the media.”
    Surely Mr. Shenoy is not naive in assuming Ram Sene’s act had benign intentions. Further ahead he goes and posts a part on the Cow only to earn a rebuttal from another reader at this blog. Fits nicely, no ?
    Now my question to you is – while Mr. Shenoy just posted the link and probably was not the author , what made you ignore the context of his Post ?
    p.s. : Answer if you can or intend to , not that I am expecting one.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    I don’t normally look at the intentions of the blogger, we all regular bloggers know the basic views of each other. If a link a provided, I read and sometimes I post my comments. On this cow slaughter news also I posted my views and later thanked
    Mr. Budha for the clarification even though I have no way of knowing whether the
    news was correct or Mr. Budha’s clarification was right. The comments by Shan, Manohar and Ravi seemed to me like they were blaming Shenoy for fabricating the story.
    Where Ram Sene is concerned IMO they do not have any credibility, it is only our
    selected media who take them seriously.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    you are right on the Ram Sene.

    Even in the infamous pub case of Mangalore, this outfit had informed mediamen and their TV crew, well in advance of their intention to picket the pub where girls go for drinking.

    The media, instead of informing the police, went trhere in strength and filmed the show in good detail.

    Now, was it not the duty of the media to inform the police and try to stop an illegal incident from taking place?

    The media has no answer to this question.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    I remember that incident which was jointly executed by Ram Sene and media.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    you have spoken like a typical twisted brain congressi.

    The last time your comrade-in-arms, the congressi troll attacked RSS, BJP and all other Hindus supposedly trying to create Hindu-Muslim riots. The fact, acknowledged by even the seculars later was that it was a non-event, ignored by the Muslims as well as Hindus, locally and state-wide. If Ram Sene members instigated it, the BJP Home minister came down heavily on them and had them arrested within 24 hours. But, that didn’t stop the congressi troll here from bad mouthing the RSS and its parivar.

    As you have, for once, correctly surmised, the cow slaughter matter was not my own creation. It was published in Pioneer, a daily published from Delhi. Neither did I vouch for its veracity. I also didn’t comment on the matter to mean that it is an earth-shaking event. Because, as I happen to know the Kerala politics, much better than you, the event might as well have happened exactly as it was described in the article.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,
    Let me go back to your own post.
    Wasn’t it your own posting in which the Ram Sene act and the Kerala Cow news act were mentioned together ? Are you denying you even compared those ? Has it become difficult for you to own up your own posting ?
    As for the Pakistani flag incident itself, I am sure you are aware Ram Sene never invited press before committing the incident. I am also sure, the Ram Sene involvement in incident was un-covered later. So, do you still want to argue about Ram Sene’s (actually it was somebody from RSS who was involved as well – as later news surfaced) act a benign one ?
    p.s. : As for your labeling me and few others here, go ahead and revel in your own label fabrication if it pleases you. So what that it looks pathetic and reflects badly on you – sans any much of substance in whatever you post.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The ‘High Priest of Abuse’ is at it again and the supporters are ‘duty’ bound to defend, even if one has to take recourse to out of context selectivity.

    Look forward to more abuse and labeling.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    ‘ supporters are duty bound to defend ‘ ????

    .

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    This was not directed at you, but a general observation.

    It requires nerve to admit one’s faults or accept criticism of one’s own. There is no evidence to that effect here, in fact it is all to the contrary and/or shooting the messenger is the norm. That is what I meant.

    I have no problem with that, but will just keep pointing it out.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And Mohan,

    “shooting the messenger” got a whole new meaning in the congressi troll’s post below!

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    I am 100% sure that I did not take part in that debate.

    I guess you have reached that level of admiration for the said Gentleman Shenoy that you have started hallucinating.

    In any case Mr Shenoy is a past master himself at shooting the messengers when-ever the message is not in accordance with the dictates from Indian Muridke.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Wow !

    Hafeez Saeed , the crude one (Engrich)

    &

    Gulam Nabi Fai, the polished one (Mr Rape)

    have both emerged together from the Tora bora caves

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  • Anonymous

    New political alliance rising on east coast?

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/New-political-alliance-rising-on-east-coast/articleshow/11956095.cms

    West Bengal chief minister Mamata Banerjee’s repeated showdowns with the Congress are more purposeful than they may seem. Her actions are in sync with an ambitious “east coast” coalition of political forces in states accounting for 128 Lok Sabha seats.

    ——————

    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    Why I don’t stop drinking and eating red meat.

    Once I asked a doctor ‘ if I give up wine, women and red meat, will I live longer ?
    Doctor said ‘ not really, it will just seem longer.’

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    if you don’t eat red meat, the goat will certainly live longer.

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    engrich Reply:

    we are last in sports only because u people stopped us from eating beef.cricket is game of hijras neither man nor women.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    u r mad. Just fed on folk tales of Tora bora…. :)

    engrich Reply:

    pyare bhai vijay,is it wrong that,

    hmins in cricket, Caste system, cricket, Dalits, Indian Hockey, Siriyavan Anand

    George Bernard Shaw once mentioned that “Cricket is a game where eleven fools play and eleven hundred fools watch”. We at have changed Mr. G.B.Shaw’s words a little bit to reflect the modern Indian reality

    We say “Cricket is a Game where eleven brahmins and upper castes play and eleven million sarvajan and bahujan fools watch and eleven hundred fools in the upper caste media comment and analyse this stupid Game.”

    One look at the teams will clear up all your doubts. How the pappati pot bellied Brahmins have injected the caste system. Look at the list of Brahmin Indian cricketers: Sunil Gavaskar, Ravi Shastri, Anil Kumble, Javagal Srinath, Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid, Sourav Ganguly, Vinoo Mankad, Ajit Wadekar, G.R.Vishwanath, EAS Prassana, Ishant Sharma, Yashpal Sharma, Chethan Sharma, Manoj Prabhakar, B Chandrashekar, K Srikanth, L Sivaramakrishnan, Dilip Doshi, Sunil Joshi, Rohit Sharma, Venkatesh Prasad, Ashok Malhotra, VVS Laxman, Murli Karthik, Sreeshashant, Dileep Sardesai, Sanjay Manjrekar,ML Jaisimha, Sudhakar Rao, TA Shekar and many many more. The 4% brahmins in India have on an average more than 70% representation in the cricket teams. The rest are occupied by other upper caste fellows like the jat Kapil dev, Yuvaraj Singh, Mongia, Rajputs Ajay Jadeja, Chethan Chauhan, Upper caste khatri sikhs Sidhu, B S Bedi, Harbhajan Singh. Out of fear of the muslims the sacred threadwallahs reserve some places for muslims like Azzarudin, Irfan Pathan, Pataudi, Kirmani, Munaf Patel. The indian cricket dressing room is virtually a Brahmin Agraharam. Even the recent under 19 team is full of Brahmins with surnames like Kauls and Sharmas. Based on the analysis we have found six Brahmins in this team of eleven and the rest are upper caste and one muslim

    engrich Reply:

    We dalits can be rest assured that in the next few decades our youths will spend their productive time watching and worshipping the pot bellied Brahmins and upper caste players bat and bowl. Our Dalit people will buy the products endorsed by these fair complexioned Brahmins. They will brush their teeth with the toothpastes these Brahmins endorse i.e if they have the money to buy toothpaste.

    Why papati Brahmins took to cricket. The upcoming and budding Dalit Intellectual Siriyavan Anand has analyzed this so well. We hope brother S Anand continues to write on engrossing Dalit issues and we wish him all the best. Brahmins who never bothered to play any games and who spent all their lives memorizing the stupid Vedic texts found the leisurely game of cricket most suitable to their lazy temperament. Cricket is one of the most laziest games fit for people who have a lot of time to spare and not physically taxing. In cricket unlike in other sports there is less contact between players. This appeals to the Brahmin practice of untouchability. No wonder young Brahmin boys are sent to coaching camps by their parents to get into the cricket team. The Brahmin selectors, the players and Brahmin commentators form a mutual admiration society.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Wah Engrich wah !! You are really bonkers !!

    “I hereby nomionate you for the booker prize for internet Jehadi fo the year !”

    hHAHAHA !! COngrats to ur chela for doing all tis hardwork of fabrication!

    Ravi Reply:

    In a parallel award ceremony focusing on Saffron Buffoonery the award for supporting act was dished to ………………………………

    ……………………………………..

    ………………………………………..

    Vijay Kumar Khaploathya

    Anonymous Reply:

    And in Bonn, Germany an award was announced for the “best mug shot with the walrus mustache” and the award goes to (fake) Ravi Singh of Glasgow London, presently hiding somewhere in the Tora Bora.

    The award will be bestowed on him in the famous Kodak Hall in Hollywood.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And Kodak has already filed for bankruptcy based on the very thought of Mr Rape coming there!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    England, South Africa, New Zealand, Bangladesh all beef eating nations have
    never won a world cup. Pakistan only once.
    I am sure that you will be aware that India has won twice.

    engrich Reply:

    i am talking of football,gymnastics and other manly games.i told u cricket is hijra game,where man hardly get chance to play.as per bernard shaw it is game of fools.

    Anonymous Reply:

    India won five times more medals than Bangladesh and Pakistan in Asiad and CWG.

    it has to do with sporting culture and facilities.

    So stuff all your Folk tales of Tora bora into the mouth of Mr Rape.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    engrich keeps Mr.Rape’s mouth stuffed and engaged with only one ‘thing’.

    Ravi Reply:

    Just like Vijay pummels your gob

    Anonymous Reply:

    Panchtantra of Tora bora…

    Mr rape bum licking Kasab and becoming his joda…

    Ravi Reply:

    More like Jatak Kathayen re-living the conjugal union of a Raja and his Runk.

  • Anonymous

    Buddha,

    the newspaper reported about a “protest against the gruesome slaughter of the pregnant cow by slitting the throat”.

    The report also mentioned, quoting police sources:
    “The police had on Tuesday itself taken three persons – Muhammad (49), his son Anas (23) and Razid (18) – into custody in connection with the cow-slaughter. One person managed to flee the scene.

    The police registered cases against the three Muslims under Section 120b (criminal conspiracy) and 153 A (inciting enmity between groups) of the IPC, police sources said. Investigations were on to find out if they deliberately wanted to create trouble, they added.

    Further, the newspaper says:
    “As per police reports, Perumbavoor and the surrounding areas have witnessed a rise in Islamist operations recently. The place is just 25 km away from Muvattupuzha, where activists of Islamist organization Popular Front of India had cut off the right hand of a college professor on July 4, 2010 alleging that he had blasphemed Prophet Muhammad through a test paper for students.”

    Buddha, please also read what Gopi has to say about this “hand-chopping”

    And whom do you hold responsible for “news twisting”?

    I have my fullest doubt that you were” browsing this site accidentally”.

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  • Anonymous

    I was banging my head on the wall, my wife was alarmed and asked me the reason.
    I told her that by mistake I interacted with our friend Engrich and he has come up with two
    long posts of his usual garbage.

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  • Anonymous

    THIS ONE IS FOR ALL THE “ENGAGED ONES”
    ———————————————————————–

    I have been engaged for almost a year. I am to be married next month.

    My fiancee’s mother is not only very attractive but really great and understanding.

    She is putting the entire wedding together and invited me to her place to go over the invitation list because it had grown a bit beyond what we had expected it to be.

    When I got to her place, we reviewed the list and trimmed it down to just under a hundred… then she floored me.

    She said that in a month I would be a married man and that before that happened, she wanted to have sex with me.

    Then she just stood up and walked to her bedroom and on her way said that I knew where the front door was if I wanted to leave.

    I stood there for about five minutes and finally decided that I knew exactly how to deal with this situation.

    I headed straight out the front door……………

    There, leaning against my car, was her husband, my father-in-law to be.

    He was smiling. He explained that they just wanted to be sure I was a good kid and would be true to their little girl.

    I shook his hand and he congratulated me on passing their little test.

    Abby, should I tell my fiancee what her parents did, and that I thought their “little test” was asinine and insulting to my character?

    Or should I keep the whole thing to myself, including the fact that the reason I was walking out to my car was to get a condom?

    Signed,

    Confused

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And what should the girls keep in car ? Birth controll pils ?

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  • Anonymous

    How Gujarat bucked a national trend
    Kingshuk Nag

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/masala-noodles/entry/how-gujarat-bucked-a-national-trend

    Excerpts

    Another Muslim who was active in an anti-Modi campaign earlier has given up. He says: “Who the heck cares about Modi? We will march ahead whether Modi stays or goes.” Implicit in the cockiness shown by this gentleman is the belief that the worst that could happen to Muslims in Gujarat has happened. Now things can only improve. “Modi can’t afford any more riots. That is the guarantee for our welfare,” he says. Also unsaid is this gentleman’s understanding that Modi will surely win the polls again. The polls are slated at the end of the year. “The Congress can never get its act together,” he says.

    ————–

    One of the untold stories of 2002 is the massive ideological support that the rioters received from the upper- and middle-class Hindus. No journalist from the national press said this because it would have looked like demonizing a significant section of the Hindu community. So the entire blame fell on the head of Modi, who as the chief minister was of course fully to blame for this breakdown in the administration. But the point is that the rioters could not have done what they did without the moral support of upper- and middle-class Hindus. Maybe without this “moral support”, Modi could not have taken the self-righteous stand that he took and got away by labelling his detractors as anti-Gujarat.

    ———–

    [Reply]

    engrich Reply:

    i totatlly agree with gentleman.but culprit must be punished.it is a matter of shame for our justice system that killer modi is still on cm seat.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manahor,

    Hounding of Modi will never stop. As I had said once that Modi is the most hounded
    CM of India. Till he dies he will have to bear with all this.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    I thought you were advocating a National role for Mr Modi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I still am. I want Ms. Jaya Lalita as PM, and Modi her deputy. IMO they both
    combined will do wonders for India.

    Ravi Reply:

    For India…or for selected few in India.

    Guess who would be left out

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    That is your opinion and I do not agree with that. We can only wait and watch how the future events unfold.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Got to rush for a lengthy inspection of a site. But I think I am going to laugh and laugh!!! Mr Rape sir’s theory is just brilliant….

    You should insert it into ur joke book!

    Hahaha !!

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    Let me be bold enough to accept that is my opinion.

    Waiting for future is futile. Lets not forget that 2002 was the future when we were in 2000.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That was so even in 1947 and you destroyed that future, you Islamic fundoo!

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    Has the thought ever occurred to you that Indian scientists should be asked to develop a weapon that works only on selected sections of our population?

    For example, is it possible to invent a Muslim Pill that will eliminate the Muslim Population of India. If found to be successful then it could be used in eliminating Dalits/Naxals/OBCs/Tribals/Etc.

    The world will adversely react like it did against Germany. But look at Germany now.

    Surely Ram Rajya is not beyond the possibility here.

    Is it?

    Guess what the USA did contemplate on a race pill with the Japanese and the Blacks in mind.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I don’t think your this post deserves an answer.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ——————————————————————–
    ~~Fantastic ! Nominated for booker !! ~~~
    —————————————————————–

    Seems that a stay at Tora Bora has rejuvenated Mr Rape’s brain!!

    Extreme creativity deserves nomination for
    BOOKER for BAD PROPOGANDA !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hey, when did you reverse the roles of Modi and Jaya? That would be blasphemy to many here. I always thought that Modi was considered by his supporters the only person fit to be the Prime Minister.

    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    It may be for pragmatic reasons.

    Indian PM would need to attend summits in US and Europe, from where Mr Modi – at least for now – is barred.

    Anonymous Reply:

    When Modi becomes PM in 2014, the Americans will join the beeline of countries willing to shake his hands and do business with him.

    The $10-12Billion fighter aircraft deal is not over yet. Not by a long shot.

    engrich Reply:

    in 2014 inshallah modi will be in jail for bad deeds.he cannot be pm as usa cannot issue visa to him.

    indonesia i/7 of of india has ordered civilian planes worth 24 billion dollars.

    decision on fighter plane is usally political apart from technical.

    first thing modi will do is start his money extracting bussines.amit shah will be deputy pm and fake encounter specialist will be the chiefs of internal security.

    Anonymous Reply:

    In fact, what you say is true for another reason. Empresses do not play second fiddle to anyone and that includes Modi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I have always said the same thing, that Jaya Lalita as a PM and Modi as no. 2.

    Anonymous Reply:

    MOhan the new blog is on… let’s meet there

    Anonymous Reply:

    You think Jaya is more capable than Modi ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    there is an avalanche of criticism for the article, “Modi, Modi, rape, rape”. Here is a sample:

    Kingshuk nag being a senior journalist you have failed to rationalize the political and social underpinnings of gujarat and stooped down to the level of branding large sections of hindus as extremists which they are not.Your argument that BJP in gujarat is upper caste party itself is wrong.Bjp grew in gujarat with help of patels who are mostly kurmi,ghanchis and other OBCS.The party was never a higher caste party in gujarat although gujarat RSS was and is run by higher castes.Even modi,keshubhai patel were OBCS.Out of 16 minsiters in modi cabinet nearly 9 belong to lower castes.The upper castes in gujarat support congress like khstriyas,bhanusalis and brahmins.They never supported BJP in first instance.This OBC assertion in BJP was prime reason why shankersinh waghela and suresh mehta walked out.OBCS and a section of dalits when they realized that they were being marginalized by Muslims and upper castes in society with active help of congress turned to BJP/RSS/VHP and soon filled their ranks.Indeed most rioters in 2002 belonged to OBC tribal,dalit and adivasi sub castes.The main reason why most hindus dont eat non veg in gujarat is due to the influence of mahatma gandhi who was a strict vegetarian.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    If you read the blog carefully, Modi is not the subject in particular. He gets mentioned and there is no overt hounding.

    Perhaps, you felt that it was so, because Modi has identified himself too closely with the people of Gujarat. Gujarat is Modi, Modi is Gujarat, didn’t he use to say – attacking him was akin to attacking five and half crore people of Gujarat?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Manohar

    Since you consistently defend Ravi what is your opinion on his insulting HIndus in the manner of Hafeez Saeed. his concoting up parania that a Muslim pill is being invented to make Muslims disappear.

    He obliquely then links it to dreams of Ram Rajya.

    This is the sort of hollow, conservative reactionary thinking which scared Muslim masses from taking part in the Pulse polio abhiyan. I know it for sure becasue I used to and still call the Polio guys to adminster drops to families of workers who worked at my site.

    Maybe you will not notice that mentality like Ravi and Engrich is what creates Islamophobia… and their bizzarre fantasies for scaring Muslims is what stops Muslims for getting assmilated.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    “Obliquely”…there was nothing oblique about it, that was the main reason for the satire.

    It was a direct connection to your and others like you who harbour this desire for unachievable utopia of Ram Rajya and see Muslims and other minorities in India as spoiling your dream. Have you forgotten Hinduatva and Modi’s support for it?

    Once again, predictably I suppose, you have taken the bat out of its context and made a batunga out of it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    have you forgotten that the concept of Ramarajya was first propounded by Mahatma Gandhi?

    Do you know for sure Nehru or any other clan member repudiating this concept as good for India?

    If it is utopia, why did the Mahatma make it a plank of his for an independent India?

    And jihadi fundoo, why do you keep silent on the polio drops?

    Ravi Reply:

    I was not sure I had to pass a judgement on Polio Drops.

    Since you ask. So here it goes.

    The Muslim leaders as well as Mullah’s were out of their tiny brains opposing Polio or any other mass medication.

    India did very well in eradicating small-pox and will do well in eradicating Polio.

    Nothing has ever brought greater joy to than when I saw long queues of poor people in rural India come to have their cataracts removed by a flying Doctor.

    Some thing to be really proud off. Swabhiman here is well earned.

    Ravi Reply:

    Is that it.

    I thought that my response was worth at least 2 Fakes, 3 Jihadis, 4 Fundos, etc.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    I do not defend Ravi or X or Y. I may defend or not defend what is written/posted – the messenger is not important.

    I had asked you earlier twice to post the ‘offensive’ messages and the links where he has insulted Hindus? You have not done so. So we let that pass, till such time you do so.

    BTW, criticising practices and shortcomings of Hindus is by no stretch of imagination can be considered insults. Unless you are under the impression that lambasting the RSS/BJP/Modi/RSS’ Ram Rajya/blah/blah/blah is akin to insulting Hindus, if so nothing can be further from the truth.

    Polio!!!!!!!! Yeh polio iss post mein kyaa relevance hai?

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    engrich Reply:

    twice to post the ‘offensive’ messages and the links where he has insulted Hindus

    these two see many things in dreams.he thinks dream is truth.

    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    No such links exist.

    The sole function of labelling me is intended to stifle all conversation on questionable aspects of Indian society.

    The RSS has decreed that some fundamental aspects of Hinduism are not open to discussion and it employs foot soldiers whose job is to divert discussion away from Hindu issues towards Islamic issues.

    My crime – if it could ever be classed as that – is to open, for discussions, issues of Devdassi in Karnataka, Continuance of Child Marriage in Rajasthan, exploitation, both sexual and economic, of Dalits in UP. Whilst Vinay and Gopi both engaged with me in fruitful discussions, the RSS foot soldiers resorted to abuse and labelling.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Manohar

    Let me tell u I dont have the time and patience to dig out old postings. But even look at this one.

    The sort of paronia being created among minorities. That a sort of pill is being created to eraedicate them

    Sadly this is what drives Muslim children away from polio drops.The senior consevative closed minds and some of them fundoos like the ones here say that the polio drops will sterilise the kids or kill them.

    The sort of hare brained theories Ravi and Engric propound !!

    Life is really funny !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Then somebody should take the responsibility of educating the illiterate muslims.

    engrich Reply:

    izzarre fantasies for scaring Muslims is what stops Muslims for getting assmilated.

    why u want assimilation.assimilation means slavery.unity in diversity is tolerance.but u people call ur spiritual fascism as non-voilence.u have to accept that we are different but on many issues like making india strong we are one.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Well said Ram Autar

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    ‘ assimilation is slavery ‘

    You also believe this ?

    ‘ unity in diversity is tolerance ‘

    You don’t like this ? What is your problem with tolerance ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ MOhan

    u can see the effects of the Muridke camp training. I think we should prod both of these guys to tell us the story of the bombings on the Isreali ambassaador’s car…

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    Not sure what you mean, but happy to respond.

    “Assimilation” where one entity losses its identity with a view to submerging itself into another identity, does lead to slavery. Hinduism grew by a process of assimilation, and you can witness the inequalities it had led to. If you understand assimilation to mean as I have described above then the answer to your question is – YES.

    Unity in Diversity – Yes if you allow me to be me and I allow you to be you, yet we share national objectives, etc. Then diversity remains within the envelope of unity.

    vive la difference

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    That is why I love this blog, because I get to learn new things. Today I learnt new meaning of the word assimilation. Inequalities in Hinduism is because of non assimilation.. Upper caste people did not want people from lower caste to assimilate with them.
    Thankfully lot has already changed and we will witness more positive change in future. Definition of unity in diversity according to me is Live and let live. Not different from yours.

    Ravi Reply:

    Where did I say in-equalities due to non assimilation.

    Take a deep breath and read again. Once you have done that then we can discuss.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    My English is definitlely not as good as yours, humbly I concede the fact.
    ‘ Hinduism grew by the process of assimilation, and you can witness the inequalities
    it had lead to ‘. What does this mean ?

    Ravi Reply:

    Hinduism grew as a result of a process of ASSIMILATION. Centuries ago, a tribe or community was evaluated against certain criteria of Hindu Society. Depending upon what kind of work people of a particular community did, what their dietary habits were, etc, then they were assimilated into certain strata of the Hindu society – mainly lower castes. This is how Gujjars were assimilated into Hinduism though not exclusively, thus rendering them to a lowly status for a very long-time.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    As I had told you once before also that you are paranoid. You believe that what used
    to happen centuries ago is still happening at the same scale and will keep on happening
    in future also. With such belief it is impossible to agree with you on this subject as you
    refuse to see the reality of today.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Assimilation in my language means assimilating in the national mainstream as Indians but with complete freedom to pracitce your own religion

    Thes two nuts will use the diversity theory to propound unequal freedom to women by asking for separate personal laws for Muslims. They will even justify the repression of Qadianis ahemadiya and the forcible conversion of HIndus and Chirstians in paksitan.

    All part of the folk tales of Tora Bora :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Agree with your meaning of assimilation. Not very different from unity in diversity.

    engrich Reply:

    asking for separate personal laws for Muslims.

    not only muslims many many hindu sects also want personal law to satisfy their community tradition and culture.

    uniform personal law is opposed more by hindus than by muslims.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Who is not Indian here ?

    engrich Reply:

    punjabi and sindhi cannot be one.they are different what is wrong in accepting this.

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    ~~~ WHY PASHCHIM BANGA NEEDS A SHAKEUP —- PART -2 ~~~~~~~~~
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    @ Ashish and Nirad babu

    With a woman like Mamta, in a perpetual state of hysteria, it is difficult to believe Bengal will finally get out of the mess. But a change from the CPM mindset and being catapulted into free enterprise can give lot of opportunity.

    Operation Barga was a good land reform measure. But if we compare the population density of 1977 with what it is today– we will wonder whther it is a solution.

    The solution obviously lies in rejuvenating the construction, manufacturing and service industry so that there is less depndence on land. As it is with such a high population density, land per person would be a pittance in Bengal. I wish I could give figures, but cant… as I am on the move…

    More later.

    And yessssss

    The mindset thing. That enterprises are not exploiters. That capitalism is not about loot. That acknowledging that state enterprises are not the way to thrive….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    this congressi troll has taken the baton of “Modi, Modi, rape, rape” from Mr. Rape. See the post below.

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  • Ravi

    Mohan

    Space ran out just as well.

    Assimilation may not be a contemporary reality, the hereditary inequalities it created persist, despite many improvements.

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