SC recognizes coalition pitfalls?



Courts in India have lately been accused of activism and overreach. While that might be true to some extent, the judiciary showed exceptional restraint in deciding the 2G case and upholding the right of private citizens-as distinct from agencies mandated for the job— to prosecute high public functionaries.

By ignoring the convention of collective responsibility bequeathed from the era of single party rule, the apex court set a new convention that could go a long way in relatively smooth conduct of coalition regimes. It indicted A Raja for mala fide implementation of the telecom policy while sparing other arms of the government — notably the ministries of finance and law the Opposition insists could have prevented the spectrum scam.

The Court’s order flew in the face of the concept of collective responsibility but was in consonance with the realities of mixed regimes. Ministers from smaller parties without whose support the government cannot last are at times more equal than the Premier himself. Little wonder then that instead of questioning Manmohan Singh or then Finance Minister P Chidambaram, the SC traced the scam to Raja’s leadership of the telecom ministry. It recognized in the process the reality of de facto power overwhelming constitutional or de jure authority in tenuous power sharing pacts.

Similarly, the order fixing a three-month timeframe for sanction of prosecution to official agencies or private citizens kept the PM out of the line of fire while taking pot-shots at his advisors and aides in the PMO. Both judgements were significant as much for what they did not say as for what they actually laid down.

Unlike the Opposition that harped on collective responsibility to attack the whole Cabinet, the apex court showed sensitivity to the problem of reigning in ministers representing other coalition partners.

Raja’s high command sat in Chennai, not Delhi’s 7, RCR or 10, Janpath. He ran amok in the belief that he was invincible so long as he enjoyed DMK chief Karunanidhi’s patronage. As Subramaniam Swamy had moved the SC on failing to get the PMO’s nod for Raja’s prosecution, what applied to the broader 2G case was relevant to the Janata Party leader’s plea for sanction to prosecute the former telecom minister.

In fact, the three month deadline the SC set for disposing of such requests has empowered the PM against rogue ministers. If the Premier does not accept or reject the request for sanction in three months, it would deem to have been given on the expiry of the fourth month.

Simply put, that means the PM can fix — with or without sanctioning probe/prosecution— ministers and other high functionaries against whom there is prima facie evidence of graft or cronyism. The judgement effectively leaves no room for allies given to bullying or blackmail on the strength of numbers they command in parliament.

Moreover, governments will be saved in future the kind of public embarrassment and administrative paralysis the UPA faced in the 2G scam on account of its failure to tame Raja. Another plus in the matter is the SC’s burial of the First-Come-First-Serve policy for allocation of natural resources such as the telecom spectrum.

The Court found it prudent to strike down the policy for its patently dishonest and partisan enforcement. That makes transparent and efficient governance the only safeguard against judicial transgressions of the Constitutional scheme of separation of powers in which policy making is the prerogative of elected regimes.

One only hopes the auction route prescribed by the judiciary isn’t universally applied to leave the poor entirely at the mercy of market forces. If India has to remain a welfare State, it must make the rich pay what’s due to help it take better care of the poor.
The loot must stop. Not legitimate support of the needy.

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  • Anonymous

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    ~~ THE CONGRESS HAS NOW DITCHED THE DMK~~what if the DMK squeals??~~
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    From the first feel of your blog, it seems that the Congress has decided to go it alone.

    As always I assume you know the real heartbeat of the Congress top brass.

    Which means that Kani Mozhi and A Raja would spend some years admiring iron bars in the Tihar, one day. but many of us think that the loot must have surely gone to very very powerul congressis. So the chances are that DMK may just squeal

    And then your thesis of coalition pitfalls could just fail…

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  • Anonymous

    Vinodji

    Perhaps, the judges also took note of the convention as followed in the Westminster model.

    Here is an excerpt (note the last para).

    Cabinet collective responsibility is constitutional convention in governments using the Westminster System that members of the Cabinet must publicly support all governmental decisions made in Cabinet, even if they do not privately agree with them. This support includes voting for the government in the legislature. In the United Kingdom, the doctrine applies to all members of the government, from members of the cabinet down to Parliamentary Private Secretaries. Some political parties apply the convention to their central committee. Its inner workings are set out in the Ministerial Code.

    It is related to the fact that, if a vote of no confidence is passed in parliament, the government is responsible collectively, and thus the entire government resigns. The consequence will be that a new government will be formed, or parliament will dissolve and a general election will be called.

    Cabinet collective responsibility is not the same as individual ministerial responsibility, which states that ministers are responsible and therefore culpable for the running of their departments.

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  • Anonymous

    Well, the constitution does not differentiate between a coalition govt vs a single party govt. So, in that sense I do not know whether SC was inventing its own rules.

    Well, judicial or non judicial, nailing crooks is a good thing.

    I believe the death of Mahathma and Sardar Pate left the second half of the “independence project” untouched. While the British was driven out, we maintained the same system for collecting taxes, running the govt etc — so a new set of Britishers, the political class, replaced the Brtish without any fundamental change in the system of administrartion/execution … The political class is the new British, squeezing the country and its income.

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  • Anonymous

    Would somebody kindly explain to me , that other than moving the last hr of application and tying it into a narrow time limit , and THUS 500 CRORE TRANSFERRED TO KANIGAR TV , WHERE IS THE CORRUPTION. Continuing with FIRST COME FIRST SERVE POLICY can NEVER stand in a CIVILIZED country’s court of law as a corrupt practice. It may be incompetence , oversight or may be wilfully exploiting a source of corruption , BUT IT CANNOT BE PROVEN TO BE CULPABLE IN A COURT OF LAW.BJP given their height of intellecual prowess is vested on THREE , two from bihar , not exactly reknowned for showing the light to the world in pecuniary matters. The other Jaitley is a lot hot air

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr Shan

    1) Rules were changed in the last moment (the original rule was not first come first serve)
    2) Only a few were informed about this and they were at the front of the line

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He refuses to read..Probably a GORA blogger can get his attention.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan

    As I understand, arbitrarily moving / fiddling with the date and the time was conveyed to the select few well in advance and the general notification hardly gave enough time to others to get their documents and the bank drafts to go and bid at the date and the time ‘fixed’ by A Raja, so there was no level playing field. Further, it seems once the ‘favourites’ had cornered the circles they wished to have, the others were left with what else – the leftovers. While cancelling the allotment, the court observed that the whole process was “unconstitutional and arbitrary”. Plus the CBI in the charge sheet has pegged the loss Rs 30,000 crores to the exchequer, by selling the spectrum at 2001 prices in 2008 (IMO, this is debatable) – it applied to all – the favourites and the others.

    The less said about the BJP the better.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    manohar

    no need to bring bjp in the spectrum fiasco…the current govt has to own it..

    i feel sad and bad for dr singh and chidambaram — thy are not corrupt men; i do believe their integrity is beyond doubt. all are caught in gross mismanagement/indiscipline. Also, they should never had an alliance with a party like DMK – a party of third rate looters, a party whose gigantic crime of land grabbing, multcore corruption, media manipulation etc is well known to all including Congress leaders.

    Tamil Nadu created congress leaders like Kamraj, Rajaji, Venketraman, C Subromiam, TT krishnamachari… It was DMK, its caste based politics, language based politics, and anti-India policies, that destroyed congress in that state. And it was a shame that a later day Congress will strike an electoral alliance with them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    Re: I was just reacting to Shan’s observations. (Deleted).

    Rest of your post makes perfect sense. The politics of the Tamil Nadu is such that no national party (referred contemptuously as a North Indian party in TN) can hope to win any seats without the help of DMK or the AIDMK.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well I mean HOW DO YOU PROVE IT , are there conversation secretly or otherwise taped , any letter , sms or Email.
    I THINK THAT 500 CRORE is the only thing that will STICK

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,
    What Manohar is saying is that it is only 30000 crores loss, Congress is innocent? This is the logic of Congressis..Shamelessness has reached a new height..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Chingulate,

    you always claim to study a matter before writing anything on it and then often you claim you know everything on the matter. Very often you have also made very absurd claims that YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT MATTER. STILL PEOPLE TOLERATE YOUR ARROGANCE AND EMPTY CLAIMS.

    About Raja, simply because he is your biradari, you cannot run down the Supreme Court of India saying that the judgement on 2G is vitiated.

    You better gather more information about how people were asked collect bank DDs for Rs.1500 crores within 1.30 hours, while all the favoured ones were already in his room with the DDs! Also find out how bouncers were kept at the entrance to the minister’s office to stop the daring few who dared toDD within the stipulated time!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Plonker that you are , you simply didn’t read through what I have posted.That is PRECISELY what I am saying , ONLY raja TAKING 500CR for the favours is corruption . CONTINUING WITH FIRST COME FIRST SERVE may have resulted in losses (put as many zeros after CRORE as you imagination allows) but that CAN’T BE PROVEN IN A COURT OF LAW AS CORRUPTION

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  • Anonymous

    javed

    good points/analysis

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  • Anonymous

    Sharma is repeating his TV spin on this blog. It is waste of time. I think it is time he join Congress a full time spokesperson replacing Tiwari,

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Replacing which Tiwari?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manish Barking Tiwari…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think, if anybody needs replacement, it is Narayan Dutt Tiwari, the worn and tired, aged but never retired, also not yet emasculated and never-to-be-underestimated in the company of young girls.

    He is a trusted congressman, but never to be trusted when alone with any girl.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    N D Tewari has already been appointed as brand ambassador of the COngress Shilajit cell…

    AshishC Reply:

    good question :D

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  • Anonymous

    Rahul’s most recent Nautanki dialogue “Joota maaro yaa Goli nahi chhodoonga UP”…He said very similar thing in Bihar..

    Also Robert Vadra is threatening to enter politics..looks like India is going to counter pakistan’s Mr.10 Percent with our very own Mr.25 percent.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev

    Only in India! There would have been zillions of congressional inquiries if this Vadra guy was in US!

    How come the mysterious deaths in his family are not investigated? How was he able to be a billionaire from nothing? (not through the Tata/Narayan Moorthy/Premji model) .. He may even be blackmailing Priyanka and Rahul.

    I hope Mr Subramaniam Swamy goes after him next! Or why should he go/or any other citizen go after Vadra? Wouldn’t the laws in India allow Income Tax and other authorities to investigate the tentacles of the huge money accumulation?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi and Co. will defend Vadra tooth and nail just because he belongs to Dynasty.

    This is Congress style of democracy..from the family, of the family and for the family.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Let us see what Ravi and Co do now…

    Probably already stories are ebgin created that a man as brilliant as the sun, as handsome as JOhn F kennedy and Rajiv Gandhi and as intellectual as Chanakya, Aristotle and Mullah Nasrudin is about to enter plitics…

    Cmon Ravi and co let us hear the swtories…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, isn’t it a shame that Vadra can decide to be in politics at a time of his choice, contest in a (safe) constituency of his choice, and become a Minister if he chooses to be – and let citizen voters be damned ??

    The dynasty and family business of politics will continue as long as a party’s high command decides which candidates/which constituency..

    We should institute a primary type system like in the USA so the voters choose their candidates

    Anonymous Reply:

    This dynasty business will go on as our country is full of Ravis, Enriches, Manohars, Prhalads/Prabhats and Sharmas…These people will even drink dynastic p–s because they are born slaves.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely sad!

    I think even the Congressi trolls will be embarresed to defend this as Vadra does not have blue royal blood.

    Remember Menaka was cast aside as a pretender when she claimed Sanjay’s bloodline.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The day SC cancelled 122 licenses, Congressis-Jihadis went into hiding and came out of rat hole only after Judge Saini gave Chidu relief.

    Anonymous Reply:

    They only know Mullah Omar, Ayatollah Khomeini and Auragzeb.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Now we should expect the Ghandy Oligarchy to rule India with the active connivance of our media.

    ‘Asked about the possibility of Priyanka entering politics, Vadra said, “This is the time of Rahul Gandhi, after that the time of Priyanka Gandhi will come in the future, and also of other family members.”’

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Now we should expect the Ghandy Oligarchy to rule India with the active connivance of our media.

    ‘Asked about the possibility of Priyanka entering politics, Vadra said, “This is the time of Rahul Gandhi, after that the time of Priyanka Gandhi will come in the future, and also of other family members.”’

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay,
    I kow your intense dislike for GASBAG Mani Iyer. What is your opinion of Ajay Maken and how he measures up against Iyer?

    I think Ajay Maken seems to be a honest and humble guy compared to arrogant and incompetent Iyer.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think Ajay Maken is a retty decent guy. I saw him make a public speech in Connought place just before the 2009 poll. Spoke well. An anti thesis of Mani Gasbag Aiyar…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Ajay Maken may be a decent guy, but the establishment is quite unhappy about him. Read what sycophant editor, SHakhar Gupta has to say about him:

    “The final absurdity in this open season is, of course, Don Quixote Ajay Maken fighting an imaginary war of his own against the cricketing establishment mostly run by his own partymen.”

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  • Anonymous

    HT/Congress nexus,,,,,,,

    Aurangazeb (??? his parents must be proud of Aurangazeb!) Nisgandhi licks Rahul’s a–se in todays HT. How he has matured, how confident he is, how he does not need any local politician to answer the questions.

    .He did not say Rahul’s– does not smell

    Rahul will be the PM with newspapers like HT behind him!

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  • Anonymous

    Shan,
    If this is not fascist behavior then what is? FYI, Vadra (also called Vadera) is Dynasty-in-law of Nehru-Gandhis.

    http://www.firstpost.com/politics/if-this-is-rahul-kaalam-is-vadra-gandam-up-next-205339.html
    On Monday, Pawan Sen, an IAS officer on election observer duty in Uttar Pradesh, stopped Vadra’s motorbike rally in Amethi because it violated an election rule that limited the number of vehicles that could be inducted into election campaigning. When it emerged that Sen had subsequently been transferred to Goa, which too is due to for Assembly elections, it was immediately seen as punitive transfer for having dared to stop Vadra, the extra-constitutional authority who enjoys other privileges.

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  • Anonymous

    Shan,
    Your cheerleaders Congressi-Jihadis regularly call BJP Nazi, fascist and what not.
    Please read some facts and decide for yourself if Congress is similar to Nazis or BJP.

    Let’s compare the Nazi Party, BJP, and Congress side by side and see which are more alike:

    Nazi: Cited alleged threat to internal security and consolidated power via the Reichstag Fire Decree and the Enabling Act in 1933, severely curtailing individual civil liberties

    BJP: Governed regularly from 1999 to 2004

    Congress: Cited threat to internal security and consolidated power by amending the Constitution and passing “extraordinary laws” in 1975 to curtail civil liberties

    Nazi: Banned all opposition parties and killed and jailed opposition leaders during the Night of the Long Knives

    BJP: Allowed opposition parties

    Congress: Banned opposition (like BJS and RSS!) and jailed opposition leaders (like future PM and Deputy PM Vajpayee and Advani!)

    Nazi: Arbitrarily detained, tortured, and killed suspected dissidents without trial

    BJP: None, with the possible exception of Kashmir, a situation inherited from Congress

    Congress: Arbitrarily detained, tortured, and killed suspected dissidents without trial

    Nazi: Forcibly sterilized people to purify German gene pool and prevent genetic diseases

    BJP: Forcibly sterilized no one

    Congress: Forcibly sterilized people to control overpopulation

    Nazi: Used books, posters, film, education etc. as propaganda to brainwash the German people

    BJP: Accused of attempting to “saffronize” Indian textbooks by Marxist historians who themselves presented a sanitized version of Indian history negating Hindu achievements and history, whitewashing atrocities of Christian and Islamic invaders, and seeing even innocuous elements of Hindu culture and history through the narrow prism of caste and class struggle

    Congress: Used Doordarshan and other media outlets for spreading propaganda

    Nazi: Party controlled by party Chairman Hitler and close knit group of supporters; no internal democracy

    BJP: Party controlled by ostensible internal democracy; not under absolute authority of SP Mookherjee, Deendayal Upadhyaya, AB Vajpayee, or their descendants

    Congress: Party under absolute control of reigning scion of the Gandhi dynasty and close knit group of chamchas; “democracy” consists of passing parliament seats to the descendants of chamchas

    Nazi: Attempted to destroy concentration camps to erase records of the Holocaust

    BJP: Severely criticized the 2002 Gujarat riots, pressured Narendra Modi into resigning and had the issue investigated by multiple independent commissions

    Congress: Had almost all of the Shah Commission Report on abuses committed during the Emergency destroyed upon returning to power (recently resurrected by Shri Era Sezhiyan in his book Shah Commission Report Lost and Regained)

    …Add this to the 1948 anti Chitpavan Brahmin killings, the 1984 anti Sikh pogrom, and the fact that Congressmen actually took part in the 2002 Gujarat riots, one wonders why the loudmouthed idiot Manish Tiwari isn’t saluting and saying “Heil Sonia!”

    disclaimer: This is taken from another blogger on Outlook.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A good chain of events.

    Like I xplained in the last blog, i dont carry a brief for the RSS. In my opinion they are misguided patriots in the present day context. But they have a right to exist. Their agenda is nationalist

    and not dynastic

    not anti democracy

    not anti India

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ya misguided as this article which is legitimizing loot of country resources for saving it’s government

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    Anonymous Reply:

    all your above comparisons are valid for the period of EMEGENCY, WHICH LASTED? 2 yrs , AND ELECTION WAS CALLED NOT AT THE BEHEST OF OPPOSITION.
    Also like NAQSHBANDI’S beleif GOD IS UBIQUITOUS
    NAZI BELEIF IS IN RACIAL SUPREMACY,
    perhaps you could enlighten me as to the RACIAL SUPERIORITY angle , if that was part of the STERILISATION programme or not

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,
    Only a GORA sahib can educate you…

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  • Anonymous

    Looks like it is going to be a distressful day for many.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I know. To cook up spin on why India needs Robert vadraji will be very difficult…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It does not make a difference to me at all. I am indifferent to the development and I am not their keeper, however hard the two abusers have been ‘trying’ to put labels for a very long time. As Mahesh said, let them revel themselves in their chosen vocation of label-fabrication. I suspect more abuse and labeling will follow this post too.

    My comment is in response to the doomsday scenario already being built by you and your ’saathidaars’, so obsessed you all are with that one family. I will be just watching the ‘fun’ from the sidelines.

    I hope you all have a nice day and days ahead too.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    Here some more news about the family to cheer you and your ’saathidaars’.

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/editorial-views-on/Edits/Keeping-tab-on-the-political-grapevine/Article1-807662.aspx

    Excerpt

    Off the campaign trail

    Why is Varun Gandhi not out campaigning all over poll-bound Uttar Pradesh unlike his cousin, Congress general secretary Rahul Gandhi? The BJP MP from Pilibhit seems to be cut up with BJP chief Nitin Gadkari for rejecting his suggestion to project him as the chief ministerial candidate. Gadkari, who was taken aback by the suggestion, told him that no one was being projected as CM this time. Maneka Gandhi, who is also the BJP’s MP from Aonla, also decided that she won’t campaign because Gadkari chose to bring in Uma Bharti, instead of projecting Varun. The mother and son duo thought that the RSS would back their claim. But the Sangh won’t interfere when Gadkari is in charge. Adding to his woes, the rallies and public meetings addressed by Varun in his own constituency have not been a huge draw. Not the son-rise that was expected.

    ———-

    What have you to say about this branch of the family?
    I am indifferent to this too. What about you all? Any spins as to why India ‘needs’ this mother-son duo?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You can paste the entire encyclopedia Britannica here and still nobody will get confused on who promtes bynastic succession!

    Menaka was kicked out of Indira’s house for staking claim to Sanjay’s gaddi as she did not have royal blood.

    She survived in poliitcs on her own smartness. No mumm and papa creating hype.

    Varun is just an ambitious guy asking for more than what he deserves.

    Pankaj SIngh does not count for anything and would meet the fate of Kalyan SIngh’s son soon…

    Anonymous Reply:

    There is no confusion as far as I am concerned.

    My earlier post which has gone missing said it all (BTW: I think how delighted some of your ’saathidaars’ would be if I too go missing from the blog).

    Anonymous Reply:

    I never wished anybody to disappear from this blog… except possibly Engrich who posts garbage.

    On second thoughts Engrich actually gives us an insight into the brainwashed LeT mind which trains suicide bombers.

    Ravi is like Gulam nabi Fai, creating fake stories in polished language to justify jehad and terror.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    if this congressi troll disapperas, who will entertain us all by his day dreams, wishful thinking and “congress ka gun-gaan”?

    All of us will become be-kaar (like Sonia Gandhi).

    Anonymous Reply:

    I did not include you and many others, except for you know who.

    I did not know that I entertained people too, earlier these same people were complaining about my long boring posts, so how can a post be both boring and entertaining at the same time? Beats me. Perhaps, some people have a weird sense of self-entertainment.

    I hope you enjoy debating with me as much as I do, though we never seem to agree on most of the issues. You have been a gentleman – no abuse or labeling.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, A very distressful day for Congressi-Jihadis gang…Go and find some spin..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    and a very distasteful day for the congressi troll and the jihadi scumbags.

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————-
    ~~ LET US WELCOME– our new lord and master ~~~ ROBERT VADRA !! ~~~
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    This post is especially meant for Prhalad and Vinodji as it will help them create some spin on why our dear Vadraji is the need of the hour… the mood of the moment and the flavour of India !

    Look all you Indians!! Robert ji is very handsome chap and can speak gud English. Thum saala UP bhaiya kya samjhega?

    His name is imported his ideas are Mummy supported. Thus saala Indian gali ka doggie kya samjhega….? :)

    Look at the rise and rise of Robert Vadra. A true example of entrepeneurship. From doing small jobwork for exporters to being a partner of DLF and buying vast tracts of land in Gurgaon and Rajasthan. Thum bharatwaasi with phati jeb kya muqabla karega ???? :) :)

    Arre Rahulji has no scion. The name of the dynasty must live on. Rahulji may never marry. Then Desh ka burden who will carry??

    Robertji !! Robertji …. err robbertji?

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Poll observer Not transferred for stopping Vadra’s convoy. I read this as Poll officer transferred for stopping Vadra’s convoy.
    Can happen only in India or may be Pakistan…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    may I correct you?

    The poll officer, Sen, an IAS officer, is said to be already on transfer, even before he stopped the mighty Vadra Sir’s convoy of 100 mobikes whereas the permitted number is just 10!

    Now the EC says, Sen will take his new post after the phase of election is over.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    it is lame excuse for dancing to the tunes of ten janpath

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Current CEC is second political appointment after Navin Chawla by UPA. The election commission is going back to its pre-Sheshan days.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju
    Indians are eunuchs… they will gladly anoint Robert Vadra (and his children, because Rahul is not going to have his progeny)…

    The blame is not on Robert, but on congressi leaders …(congressi leader is an oxymoron)

    What about all those suspicious deaths — was there ever a proper investigation (by Delhi police) on the death of his brother in Vasanth Vihar

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    Daal mein kuch kaala
    Problems solve kargegi uski khala !

    (khala means senior lady of the house)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    daal mein zarror kuch kaala hai.

    A poem specially written in honour of the advent of the new star has been twice censored, even though nothing “objectionable was included!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinod Sir,

    do you think Vadra Sir is the next star?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    Arre baba, Vinodji himself is recovering from the shock and awe, Robertji’s announcement casued !

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    AshishC Reply:

    ROBBER-ji??

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    Anonymous Reply:

    :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Awesome..finally someone will be living up to name of Nehru-Gandhi.. :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Prahladji
    WHy this kolaveri di

    Where have you gone ji
    Robertji is coming
    Riding on a sleigh
    SO why this Kolaveri di?

    Robertji needs some spin
    So why u become so grim?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Robert Vadra is not alone , I don’t know WHAT PSYCHIATRIC ILLNESS priyanka Gandhi was suffering from that she this SUDDH THUG.
    He looks like a thug , has a brain of a thug , can loot like a thug.
    Is it because he is christian .GUYS CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW HE GOT ACCESS TO GANDHI FOLD.
    iF HE EVER HOLDS POSITION IN CABINET , I AM GOING TO TAKE UP BRITISH CITIZENSHIP

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Priyanaka apparently made a wrong choice… when better guys like you and me were available…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    frailty thy name is woman

    Anonymous Reply:

    Opposites attract!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    NDTV (Nehru Dynasty TV) has already started drumbeat for Vadra..
    Here is the interview of Mr.25 percent-
    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/theres-always-a-push-for-me-to-join-politics-robert-vadra-to-ndtv-173914

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  • engrich

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    The Star Students Of The Islamic Republic
    Newsweek ReportAug 8, 2008 8:00 PM EDT
    Forget Harvard—one of the world’s best undergraduate colleges is in Iran.
    In 2003, administrators at Stanford University’s Electrical Engineering Department were startled when a group of foreign students aced the notoriously difficult Ph.D. entrance exam, getting some of the highest scores ever. That the whiz kids weren’t American wasn’t odd; students from Asia and elsewhere excel in U.S. programs. The surprising thing, say Stanford administrators, is that the majority came from one country and one school: Sharif University of Science and Technology in Iran.

    Stanford has become a favorite destination of Sharif grads. Bruce A. Wooley, a former chair of the Electrical Engineering Department, has said that’s because Sharif now has one of the best undergraduate electrical-engineering programs in the world. That’s no small praise given its competition: MIT, Caltech and Stanford in the United States, Tsinghua in China and Cambridge in Britain.

    Sharif’s reputation highlights how while Iran makes headlines for President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s incendiary remarks and its nuclear showdown with the United States, Iranian students are developing an international reputation as science superstars. Stanford’s administrators aren’t the only ones to notice. Universities across Canada and Australia, where visa restrictions are lower, report a big boom in the Iranian recruits; Canada has seen its total number of Iranian students grow 240 percent since 1985, while Australian press reports point to a fivefold increase over the past five years, to nearly 1,500.

    Iranian students from Sharif and other top schools, such as the University of Tehran and the Isfahan University of Technology, have also become major players in the international Science Olympics, taking home trophies in physics, mathematics, chemistry and robotics. As a testament to this newfound success, the Iranian city of Isfahan recently hosted the International Physics Olympiad—an honor no other Middle Eastern country has enjoyed. That’s because none of Iran’s neighbors can match the quality of its scholars.

    Never far behind, Western tech companies have also started snatching them up. Silicon Valley companies from Google to Yahoo now employ hundreds of Iranian grads, as do research institutes throughout the West. Olympiad winners are especially attractive; according to the Iranian press, up to 90 percent of them now leave the country for graduate school or work abroad.

    So what explains Iran’s record, and that of Sharif in particular? The country suffers from many serious ills, such as chronic inflation, stagnant wages and an anemic private sector, thanks to poor economic management and a weak regulatory environment. University professors barely make ends meet—the pay is so bad some must even take second jobs as taxi drivers or petty traders. International sanctions also make life difficult, delaying the importation of scientific equipment, for example, and increasing isolation. Until recently, Iranians were banned from publishing in the journals of the Institute for Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE), the industry’s key international professional association. They also face the indignity of often having their visa applications refused when they try to attend conferences in the West.

    Yet Sharif and its ilk continue to thrive. Part of the explanation, says Mohammad Mansouri, a Sharif grad (‘97) who’s now a professor in New York, lies in the tendency of Iranian parents to push their kids into medicine or engineering as opposed to other fields, like law. Sharif also has an extremely rigorous selection process. Every year some 1.5 million Iranian high-school students take college-entrance exams. Of those, only about 10 percent make it to the prestigious state schools, with the top 1 percent generally choosing science and finding their way to top spots such as Sharif. “The selection process [gives] universities like Sharif the smartest, most motivated and hardworking students” in the country, Mansouri says.

    Sharif also boasts an excellent faculty. The university was founded in 1965 by the shah, who wanted to build a topnotch science and technology institute. The school was set up under the guidance of MIT advisers, and many of the current faculty studied in the United States (during the shah’s era, Iranians made up the largest group of foreign students at U.S. schools, according to the Institute of International Education). Another secret of Sharif’s success is Iran’s high-school system, which places a premium on science and exposes students to subjects Americans don’t encounter until college. This tradition of advanced studies extends into undergraduate programs, with Mansouri and others saying they were taught subjects in college that U.S. schools provide only to grad students.

    Several Sharif alumni point to one other powerful motivator. “When you live in Iran and you see all the frustrations of daily life, you dream of leaving the country, and your books and studies become a ticket to a better life,” says one who asked not to be identified. “It becomes more than just studying,” he says. “It becomes an obsession, where you wake up at 4 a.m. just to get in a few more hours before class.”

    Iran’s success, in other words, is also the country’s tragedy: students want nothing more than to get away the moment they graduate. That’s a boon for foreign universities and tech firms but a serious source of brain drain for the Islamic republic. There simply are not enough quality jobs for graduates in Iran, says Ramin Farjad Rad, another Sharif grad (‘97) who’s now an executive at Aquantia in Silicon Valley. What’s worse, star students who stay in Iran and try to launch businesses complain that predatory government officials demand a cut of their profits or impose unnecessary obstacles. Thus many Iranians who can’t make it to the West head to Dubai instead. As one Sharif grad in the Persian Gulf port city puts it, “Here, our education is properly valued. We are given freedom to succeed. In Iran, we are blocked.”

    Such frustrations augur ill for Iran’s future. True, it’s produced a startling number of top students in recent years. And the country’s history is rich with achievement, featuring Avicenna (also known as Ibn Sina), the medieval world’s greatest scientist; Muhammad al-Khwarizmi, the ninth-century inventor of the mathematical algorithm (the basis of computer science), and Omar Khayyam, the famed mathematician and astronomer. That’s a fine legacy. But unless the Islamic republic changes directions soon, all of that history and potential could be squandered.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2008/08/08/the-star-students-of-the-islamic-republic.html

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  • Anonymous

    so you are legitimzing loot of country resources for sake of power, shame on you, one is sure all things happened under the noose of mr. so called mr.clean, he can not escape moral liability and constitutional liability for not acting as watch dog but acting as watching dog2, may be courts can not see and can not act on it’s own,

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    engrich Reply:

    राजनेताओं के दिमाग के आगे अच्छे – अच्छे ज्योतिषियों के गणित भी फेल हो जाते हैं। यह बात सोमवार को एसपी के एक कैंडिडेट के मामले में सच साबित हुई। इन नेताजी को विधानसभा चुनाव के लिए नॉमिनेशन दो फरवरी को करना था , लेकिन उन्होंने पंडित की सलाह पर उसे सात फरवरी के लिए टाल दिया। पर इस बीच इनका टिकट ही काट दिया गया।

    ज्योतिष के मारे ये नेता हैं , समाजवादी पार्टी के डॉ . सागर शर्मा। एसपी ने उन्हें लगभग दस महीने पहले गाजियाबाद विधानसभा सीट से प्रत्याशी घोषित किया था। वह तभी से चुनाव प्रचार कर रहे थे। डॉ . शर्मा को 31 जनवरी को पार्टी का चुनाव निशान ( साइकिल ) भी आवंटित कर दिया गया था। तय हुआ कि वह दो फरवरी को नामांकन भरेंगे। इस बीच , उन्होंने ज्योतिषियों की राय भी ले ली। उन्हें सात फरवरी का दिन शुभ बताया गया। पंडितों ने कहा कि उन्हें 7 को दोपहर 12 से एक बजे के बीच पर्चा दाखिल करना चाहिए। डॉ . शर्मा मंगलवार को चुनाव कार्यालय भी वास्तुशास्त्र के मुताबिक हापुड़ रोड पर शुरू करने की तैयारी कर चुके थे। सोमवार को वह लगभग दोपहर 12 बजे तक गाजियाबाद के एक होटल में एसपी की प्रेस कॉन्फ्रेंस में अन्य प्रत्याशियों के साथ मौजूद थे। एक बजते – बजते उनका टिकट कटने की जानकारी सभी लोगों को मिल गई। उनकी जगह कांग्रेस से एसपी में शामिल हुए पवन शर्मा को गाजियाबाद सीट से प्रत्याशी बनाया गया है। बहरहाल , डॉ . शर्मा ने अचानक अपना टिकट कटने पर कोई टिप्पणी नहीं की।

    गौरतलब है कि समाजवादी पार्टी जिले में अपने पांच प्रत्याशियों में से तीन के टिकट काटकर प्रत्याशी बदल चुकी है। इनमें मुरादनगर से घोषित प्रत्याशी दिशांत त्यागी का टिकट काटकर बीएसपी सरकार के पूर्व मंत्री राजपाल त्यागी को और मोदीनगर विधानसभा सीट से पूर्व में घोषित प्रत्याशी विनोद सैन का टिकट काटकर बीजेपी छोड़कर आए राम आसरे शर्मा को प्रत्याशी घोषित किया गया था।

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  • Anonymous

    Hi

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  • Anonymous

    Hi

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  • Anonymous

    Kongress ne laaya naya ubharta sitaara

    Woh hai Robert Vadra, Robart vadra

    yah hai Priyanka ka pyaara, Rajmata ka dulara

    ab kongressi bolenge ‘yah nannah sa chhora

    hoga naya neta, pyaara sa, hamaara

    layega 25% commission raaj dubaara

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  • engrich

    ‘युवराज के फ़िज़ियो जतिन चौधरी झोलाछाप डॉक्टर’
    aaloke another feather in the cap of hindu india.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Mohan

    Hi… where is the joke for the day?

    @ Engirch

    You have gone into the garbage mode again. Kindly mail ur address so psychiatirsts can be sent to rescue you …

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    engrich Reply:

    ur truth is usually garbage.what can i do.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    go to Muridke and recite all this for applause or tell this to ur “close’ friend in ur house and get his “reward.”

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  • Anonymous

    congress ka aasmaan mein yek naya sitaara
    chamak ne laga hai raat, savera

    uss ka naam hai Robert Vadra, ji haan, Robert Vadra
    aur voh hai Priyanka ka piya, sonia ka dulaara

    bajne lagaa hai congresswalon ka iktaara
    zindabad, zindabaz, Vadra hai neta hamaara

    sab congressi khush hain, lekin in-camera
    kehte hain, 25% ka raaj yeh layega dubaara

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  • Anonymous

    congress ka aasmaan mein yek naya sitaara
    chamak ne laga hai raat, savera

    uss ka naam hai Robert Vadra, ji haan, Robert Vadra
    aur voh hai Priyanka ka piya, sonia ka dulaara

    bajne lagaa hai congresswalon ka iktaara
    zindabad, zindabaz, Vadra hai neta hamaara

    sab congressi khush hain, lekin in-camera
    kehte hain, 25% ka raaj yeh layega dubaara

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    Anonymous Reply:

    VInodji should recite this next time he is on NDTV.

    What do u think vinodji?

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    Kumars1 Reply:

    Anyone can come and rule the Hindus! They have been doing it for 1000 years! Even Rahul Gandhi’s Colombian girlfriend may nurture dreams of ruling India!

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  • Kumars1

    Vinod Sharma’s argument mirrors that of ‘judge’ OP Saini: A. Raja is solely responsible for the loot. Congress walas were either unaware of it or helpless because of coalition politics! Vinod Sharma expects people to believe that! He is really nuts!

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  • Anonymous

    A new legal nuance or an Ace Spin- doctor at work ?
    ——–“the apex court set a new convention that could go a long way in relatively smooth conduct of coalition regimes”
    Implicitly the SC has laid down new law and by virtue of Article 141 of the Constitution it becomes binding on all lower courts. So CVC /High Courts / Lokayuktas /Lokpals/ CBI should not contravene this Convention when dealing with Alliance governments . So the Constitution of India , The General Financial Rules, The Allocation of Business Rules , The Transaction of Business Rules of the Government of India be damned and thrown into the dustbin. The CVC should redraw its manual.
    The country asks if this be so , has this been law tailor-made for the UPA and Manmohan Singh ? …. Probably yes.
    ———“Unlike the Opposition that harped on collective responsibility to attack the whole Cabinet, the apex court showed sensitivity to the problem of reigning in ministers representing other coalition partners.”
    The Opposition is an insensitive nuisance and when it stressed on Collective Responsibilty of the Cabinet , it was acting beyond its mandate and with an ulterior motive whereas the SC has conducted itself with responsibility and sensitivity as it allowed the PM and his Council of Ministers to go scot free… The aides and officials of the PMO were acting beyond jurisdiction and without legal sanction.
    The country asks if this is so will any of these invite disciplinary action ? will any of these erring officers pay a price? ….No that is mere obiter …so please forget about it.
    ———“He ran amok in the belief that he was invincible so long as he enjoyed DMK chief Karunanidhi’s patronage.”
    When the PM was giving a clean chit to Raja in the Parliament and outside , he was also petrified of Karunanidhi.
    ———-“the PM can fix — with or without sanctioning probe/prosecution— ministers and other high functionaries against whom there is prima facie evidence of graft or cronyism”
    The PM’s of India shall henceforth be free to abdicate their responsibilities. For newetr situations , they may wait for more such new laws/convention for the SC to lay down. tailormade for UPA and Manmohan Singh ? ….Yes
    ———-“One only hopes the auction route prescribed by the judiciary isn’t universally applied to leave the poor entirely at the mercy of market forces. If India has to remain a welfare State, it must make the rich pay what’s due to help it take better care of the poor.
    The loot must stop. Not legitimate support of the needy.”
    A proper sale of 2G spectrum would have brought huge revenue to the government with more resources for the needy and the nation’s priorities. and not subsidized cell calls as many of the Congress party’s spin doctors tried to sell to the country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Best comment on this blog by some distance.

    I wonder where would all the theories go if Mr. Swamy were to get a favourable judgement in a higher court. I am hopeful.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Best comment on this blog by some distance.

    I wonder where would all the theories go if Mr. Swamy were to get a favourable judgement in a higher court. I am hopeful.

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  • Anonymous

    Guys talking about LOOT , Meghnad Desai yesterday pointed out some “loot” or in bengali as we say HARI LOOT. Hari loot is where after offering puja to Hari(krishna)
    one particular offering , a kind of sugar candy is JUST THROWN BY THE PRIEST to the assembled worshippers. It is mainly children , and they all scramble to get one.
    The Desai LOOT is done by chattering class IN east delhi AND ELSE WHERE WHEREVER THERE IS MIDDLE CLASS.
    This loot is in the form of LPG gas subsidy, ELECTRICITY subsidy LUDICROUSLY CHEAP POSTAL SERVICE, and the WATER SUBSIDY
    THE CROWN however goes to FERTILISER SUBSIDY WHICH THE RICH FARMERS ENJOY , and there is NO INCENTIVE to use fertilisers properly, IN FACT INDIA HAS THE HIGHEST CONSUMPTION OF FERTILISER /ACRE

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    engrich Reply:

    ram naam ke loot hai loot sakai so loot.

    aaj kal hamaree bua bharti apnee danga fauj lek kar ayodhya mein padhare huee hain.public aur bandar dono inko dekh ke bhaag rahe hain

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  • Anonymous

    All-

    One Mr Javed posted an excellent legal analysis with angles on how the cabinet/council of ministers and PM can be brought into the loop.. It was the sixth or seventh comment in this blog

    However it is deleted!!!!!!

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  • Ali Baba

    Raja has looted other countries’ wealth without any aggression, military adventure, occupation etc. He beats the East India Co hands down – and he has also kept the tariffs low, thereby prooving that he has looted the rich and given the booty to the poor. In the bargain his bosses also became rich – but then thats the beauty – loot the MNCs & distribute to the Raja & Praja! By reauctioning the 2G, GOI would recover all the losses made by Raja . boy oh boy – Raja, u have played the Baja. There won’t be any collateral damage – for Kapil Sibal would somehow placate the MNCs whose licenses got cancelled. Cheer up bozos, stop crying.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ali baba what will happen to the chaalis chor?

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    Fasihson Reply:

    All of them have lost in the Tamil Nadu elections – Marjeena even had to go to Tihar for few months, on the behalf of Ali Baba!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good!

    DMK will use this as their next election slogan…. free TV, free rice, and now free money for the country

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ali Baba – excellent analysis.

    It reminds me of a conversation I had with a member of a car-thieve’s gang. He was an engineer from a good family background but gave up his job as it wasn’t too well-paying. He justified car thefts as it benefits all:
    a) The unemployed people get jobs – it takes a good number of people to steal one in one part of the country, transport it to the other and then sell it with a fake “new” registration number
    b) The person who buys the car get them cheaper – as compared to the ongoing market price even of a pre-owned car
    c) The person whose car gets stolen anyways gets his money back through the Insurance provider
    d) The Insurance company also needs these instances to happen otherwise why would we insure our cars against theft
    e) When caught, the thieves give employment to lawyers who try to get them out on bail

    So, he wondered – why does he get beaten up in jail when caught?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Now that was one heck of a justification. Looking at the positives only, though not sure that this should be the standard procedure.

    Crime benefiting the society at large!!!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    Let us all become ‘Robberji’ and do our bit for the poor people of this country!!!!! ;-)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well Raja sent a quick bit of the booty to his queen mother kanimozhi

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well Raja sent a quick bit of the booty to his queen mother kanimozhi

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  • Anonymous

    Was there any report on Sonia Gandhi’s sickness, where she was treated while in the US, what is the status now (if she was there for medical purpose) etc?

    Is this a totally private info or do citizens have a right to know since she is the leader of the ruling party?

    Will appreciate comments on this from lawyers on this forum.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    I am not a lawyer.

    The health/medical information is strictly a private matter – whether the person concerned is a private citizen or a public figure. No one else has any right to know or seek it, unless the person concerned voluntarily makes it public. Moreover, propriety demands that private matters of women are just that – private.

    The laws in USA and other western countries are very strict, not sure if India has such laws.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    It is private for a private citizen. But is it for PM, CM etc?? Also, don’t the citizens have a right to know if her treatment was paid for by the govt (which I m not sure) .

    Lets hear some lawyers here

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    I think it was Praveen Saxena, who had given a detailed background note on this at the time of her treatment right on this blog.

    Even if the medical expenses are paid for by the government, it is still a private matter.

    She is entitled to medical care at the state’s expense just as any other member of parliament.

    Here is an excerpt

    Medical facilities Under the Central Government Health Scheme as extended to members, a member and his/her family are entitled to free medical treatment on a monthly contribution of Rs. 150. Dispensaries for providing treatment mainly to members exist in the North Avenue, South Avenue, Telegraph Lane, Pandara Road, Dr. Zakir Hussain Road, Constitution Club and First Aid Post in V.P. House. A First Aid Post in Parliament House and a Medical Centre in Parliament House Annexe are also functioning for rendering medical aid to members in cases of emergency or sudden illness.

    These are also available to the ex-MPs too.

    engrich Reply:

    sonia jee is last hope for india.her christian heart and actions guided by christain values can save india from these vile wicked and chamoleon who works under umbrella of parivar.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    christian values remind me on George Bush..what a great man!!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    @Manohar T , without the express consent of patient YOU CANNOT RELEASE ANY INFORMATION , this applies across the board , like bank college school etc , THIS IS COVERED UNDER THE DATA PROTECTION ACT

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,
    It’s all about maintaining privacy and no one force Sonia to reveal her medical record BUT as she was treated using tax payer’s money, we ought to know-
    1. How much was spent on her?
    2. Where was she treated?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi Sir,

    It has been quite a while since Mrs Gandhi went for the treatment. Any reason for this sudden interest now ?

    How does it make any difference ?

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  • Anonymous

    Friends,

    our elders have wisely said that after a certain age, we must start withdrawing from the worldly affairs. But some people will never learn. Here is proof:

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  • engrich

    gopia,shenoyv aur aaloke,
    phir pakde gaye deshbhakt,

    K’taka ministers caught watching porn in assembly
    Press Trust Of India
    Bangalore, February 07, 2012First Published: 20:13 IST(7/2/2012)
    Last Updated: 20:23 IST(7/2/2012)Share more…4 Comments Email print

    In an embarrassment to the BJP Government in Karnataka, two ministers were caught on camera allegedly watching a porn clipping on a mobile phone in the state Assembly during its proceedings

    zaroor kisi jehadi ka haath hai.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Both ministers should be sacked for insulting the sanctity of assembly.

    These both guys are our future ND Tiwaris.

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    engrich Reply:

    but,

    The most favourite pastimes of the Jews and the “Jews of India” are sex, nudity, homosexuality, binge drinking, cricket, Bollywood pomp and boasting. Their media is nothing but shit so that our souls are fed with saw dust.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Seems you just recieved a new injectinn of jehaid rabies…

    Anonymous Reply:

    I can’t believe muslim hatred for jews. When they cry about Islamophobia, it makes them look ridiculous.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If this nut is from India… his problems should be corruption, inflation, employment… and certainly not Jews !

    Funny !

  • Anonymous

    Guys-
    Today’s Wall Street Journal front page article is about corruption in India — under “Flawed Miracle” examining threats to and limits of India’s economic ascent .

    India is worse than China in corruption, but better than North Korea and Russia. The corruption perception index (by Transparency Internaational based on data from 17 surveys) for India is 3.1, China 3.6, US 7,1, Canada 8,7.

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    engrich Reply:

    Syria: Russia and China chain the dogs of war

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    engrich Reply:

    benoy hegde,

    The most favourite pastimes of the Jews and the “Jews of India” are sex, nudity, homosexuality, binge drinking, cricket, Bollywood pomp and boasting. Their media is nothing but shit so that our souls are fed with saw dust.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Except homosexuality , you can count me in

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Engrich your time has come for another “anti-jehadi rabies injection.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy

    Honestly India is a flawed miracle. There is a huge bureaucracy and politcal setup which promotes family rule, dynasty, caste. religious divide.

    That we have managed to come this far is pure accident… and comedy/

    The accident being that after the VP Singh fiasco we went bankrupt and the world bank managed to ram in some economic policies which a tottering india was forced to follow.

    The comedy being that PV Rao, the Pm at that time discovered that decison making is not just binary, not just about yes or no. There is a third dimension– maybe yes maybe know… dont do anything and that itself is a decision. And the best policies were ramme in during this time.

    But I guess most of the Indians are patient, and good at heart.

    Of coruse as a group we are all a minority waiting for a divisive leader…

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay Sir,

    Something to celebrate about :

    1 ) Ministers watch P orn in assembly

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Karnataka/K-taka-ministers-caught-watching-porn-in-assembly/Article1-808155.aspx

    2) ” Tourism with a Difference ”

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Rave-party-rocks-Karnataka-assembly-CM-Sadananda-Gowda-orders-inquiry/articleshow/11793907.cms

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Prhalad

    Sad that assembly time was misused and also public money and forum. Time to kick the bums of the Ministers.

    However not as bad as the Congressman’s Gehlot Ministers acting in self produced pornos and then killing the heroine in real life.

    Sadly the HT too plays a double game.

    Advertise “Full body Senusal massage parlours” in color. And also give details of Sunny leone in a titillating manner…

    And when the public taste falls down… the HT and other media shout. “sham shame… rape rape…!”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    Sad…but not as bad .

    Terrific !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This reminds us of Thurki ND Tiwari with call girls and 5 Rajasthan Congress minister sharing one mistress and then disposing her off.

    I guess Congress bug has bitten BJP.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Prahlad

    You shouldn’t have posted these links. It gives a ‘very bad name’ to the ‘god ordained party’ and its ‘heaven born leaders and cadre’. (TIC). ;-)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar Sir,

    They were the whistle blowers !

    Probably there were getting ready to expose bad happenings in the assembly. The media just made unnecessary hungama !

    You know how bad and partial these English newspapers are !!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    prahlad

    One of the ministers was the minister for womens/childrens welfare!

    well, congress steals; bjp lusts

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi Sir,

    The woman and child welfare Minister was probably getting some education on the birth control techniques ! Vijay Sir can throw more lights on this !

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  • Anonymous

    @Prahlad Sir, Apparently these are the people discussing RAM SENE , though there is nothing particularly wrong in watching porn so long it is done at the privacy of your home and note while the session is on in the Assembly. Must say the minister LOOKED LIKE A RAPIST ON THE LOOSE. Police needs to keep an eye on his house , particularly MAIDS NEED TO CARRY EMERGENCY TO PHONE, BEFORE THEIR BATTERED BODY IS FOUND IN A CANAL .
    As for Vijay Sir, HE IS CONOSSIEUR OF PORN , and he KNOWS LONDON’S SOHO FROM THE PALMOF HIS HAND.
    Remember VijaySir , is a builder AND LIVES IN DELHI , HOOKER CAPITAL OF INDIA

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @Shan

    In your case MBBS probably stands for

    MBBS == Main Bakwaas Bolata Saand, Shan

    As for the palm of my hand, it works best whenver it flick you off as a fly OR just crush you easily by closing my palm !
    HA HAA ! :)

    As for your interest in hookers, I can only advice you that in this age of a mutating HIV virus, you could well remember that “apna haath jagannath’ and go to sleep…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @vijay Sir, In your case IT IS MORE THAN INTEREST IN HOOKERS ,YOU USE THEM(which ever way one likes to interpret the meaning of the word) be it for securing contrast or else
    AS THEY SAY
    BUSINESS OR PLEASURE
    IN your case
    BUSINESS AND PLEASURE

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Cingulate

    You may chase your fantasy and say that I use hookers…

    Then

    I will just say… maybe you are a hooker !!!

    ——————————————————————————————

    PS: Please dont go further down this road. It will just lower the standard of blogging

    Anonymous Reply:

    Watch out the space , and see how i transcend this to a intellectual discourse of highest order

  • Anonymous

    @Prahlad Sir, Apparently these are the people discussing RAM SENE , though there is nothing particularly wrong in watching porn so long it is done at the privacy of your home and note while the session is on in the Assembly. Must say the minister LOOKED LIKE A RAPIST ON THE LOOSE. Police needs to keep an eye on his house , particularly MAIDS NEED TO CARRY EMERGENCY TO PHONE, BEFORE THEIR BATTERED BODY IS FOUND IN A CANAL .
    As for Vijay Sir, HE IS CONOSSIEUR OF PORN , and he KNOWS LONDON’S SOHO FROM THE PALMOF HIS HAND.
    Remember VijaySir , is a builder AND LIVES IN DELHI , HOOKER CAPITAL OF INDIA

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  • Anonymous

    British Raj in action..A constable punished publicly for not saluting his officer…What was the punishment? Watch..

    http://khabar.ibnlive.in.com/news/66851/3/19

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  • Anonymous

    ~~~ DID VADRA FLOAT A TRIAL BALLOON OF HIS CLAIM TO THE PM’s SEAT ??? ~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————————————–

    @ Prahlad

    Since I assume you know the inner working of the Congress, I’ll ask you this question.

    Some blogs back you let us into the secret that Rahul will not become the PM but maybe Priyanka would be pushed in at the last moment.

    With Sonia’s health uncertain, this storyline is looking more and more certain. That Chotta Baba will turn to his sister for help and support.

    But Priyanka– and I beleive her on this– says that after Vipassana– she realised that politics was not for her.

    Now I believe that the businessman in Robert Vadra senses a huge huge opportunity here. That the brand name of Gandhi’s is intact…yet none would claim the top chair. He feels he has ideas to change world history and that of India.

    Maybe he could create a scene of emotional blackmail in the family… and push his case in…

    After all Robert Vadra PM of India. would indeed be an ambition worth pursuing.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When sonia gandhi was being proposed for the post of PM , Uma Bharati met the president and said unless she is stopped SHE WILL SHAVE HER HEAD
    If BHADRA becomes PM , she may decide to UNDERGO SEX CHANGE OPERATION

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    Anonymous Reply:

    :)

    and with that sex change operation she will be able to screw nehru-gandhis literally.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    May be then Rahul may reach out to her/him.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    Well, what about a possible “conspiracy” theory..

    Vadra boy is an ambitious “get it done at any cost” guy. He married very very high for a person of his background; akin to Arnold Swazanberger marrying the Kennedy girl…. Vadra ddi not marry the Gandhi girl to expand his business…..(Subbu Swamy should have somebody reserach how the marriage happened..they were not college mates, they were not moving in the same social circle; in fact the Gandhi girl is under tough security protection wherever she moved – ))

    Now it is a well known fact that his brother, his sister, and his father died under mysterious circumstances. Hey anything is possible, including the death of a member of his extended clan,

    Who becomes the PM then? Definitely not the Gandhi girl.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Gopi;
    You will be surprised. They met at Hyatt Regency Hotel on Ring Road near Safadarjang enclave, when first quality Disco of Delhi was opened way back in either late 70s or early eighties.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    We may have to remember one of the oldest aspects of life – love is blind.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Arny was something from his very first movie. unlike Vadra, who was a small time commission agent in Moradabad.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    There is a huge difference between “will not be” and “may not be”.

    Ms. Priyanka could be a wild card.

    Mr Vadra would just be another powerful politician. He will become a strong powerful politician in the mould of Arun Nehru. Nothing more.

    Take a deep breath and relax. You are taking your flight of fancy ( speculation ) too high too soon.

    And who knows it might just happen if your favourite party Ministers stayed busy watching porn ! Eeven worse could happen.

    Strengthen your favourite party. Stop speculating on Congress.

    Hope nothing happens to Mrs Sonia Gandhi before 2014. Else, there would be a sympathy wave for the Congress. Then whatever little chance was created by Mr Anna for Mr Advani would also go away. Keep your fingers crossed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If you noticed, yesterday, a section of the members here went ballastic over the news of the Robert Vadra’s likely entry into politics and various dooms day scenarios being imagined. Some of them were really angry, given the tone of their posts.

    One only wonders what will be the reactions, if he actually takes the plunge?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good points…opposition has to garner enough to displace them.. looks like they too are in the pocket of congress!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Prahlad Sir,

    Honestly, do you believe people are worried that ministers or MLAs watch porn on their mobiles? Or is it the first time it has happened?

    Actually, the whole country is worried and I can bet my last khaki chaddi the congressmen are deeply perturbed that their yuvraj, Rahul Baba, is NOT AT ALL t interested in sex or in the opposite sex.

    I think the remedy lies in yoga and ayurveda.

    He should take a leaf out of his great grand father’s life and begin daily sheershaasan for 30 minutes followed by a glass of lemon juice mixed with honey, chyawanprash, cinnamon and saffron.

    Don’t worry. Just as yoga will not make him a disciple of Ramdev, a pinch of saffron doze will not make him a chaddiwala.

    Please pass on this message URGENTLY.

    WE CANNOT SEE A NOBODY LIKE VADRA BECOMING PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA BY DEFAULT!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Sir,

    I guess you missed the obvious.

    Mrs Sonia Gandhi is heavily into Yoga and Mr Rahul Gandhi boxing. To stay fit and take the heavy schedule on their stride they use yoga and boxing to their advantage. I guess they are doing pretty fine unlike some political heavyweights who faint in mild mumbai sun.

    Please do not put Mr Ramdev on the high pedestal of inventor of Yoga. He has done to Yoga as much Mr Govinda did to popularise Hindi movie in small towns.

    I must say Vijay Sir is quite infectious. you too fell victim to his vadra-phobia . Looks like that’s your anti-dote to porn scandal.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Prahladji Sirji,

    I think it is you who deliberately missed the issue of sex.

    The whole world moves on sex and people are mighty interested in knowing the sexual preferences of the person who would be king.

    As for yoga, Govinda ia actually a small time comedian compared to Groucho Marx and Bros. So is Ramdev, despite your obvious dislike for the name.

    I have no phobia for Vadra, but it interests me to know how his mind works. Sample this, his very first public statement:

    ‘Asked about the possibility of Priyanka entering politics, Vadra said, “This is the time of Rahul Gandhi, after that the time of Priyanka Gandhi will come in the future, and also of other family members.”’

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Sir,

    That’s a political family. It should not surprise you.

    If your family stays in politics for 2 generations, it too would be known as a political family in a decade or so.

    Since when have you started indulging in others’ sexual preferences? No wonder we see less of poetry on this blog these days !

    [ Please don't rock your 4 decade old sweet marriage at this age ! You will lose your family pension !!]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Prahlad Sir,

    Now you are talking like your old self Prabhat, with the additional trait of ’sirring’ everybody.

    since this morning you have been indulging mostly in others’ sexual preferences. Sample these:

    “See the Porn scandal in the same light as A Raja scandal :

    “One small act by these two ministers spoiled the good efforts by BJP leaders”

    “And who knows it might just happen if your favourite party Ministers stayed busy watching porn ! Even worse could happen.”

    Therefore, Prabhat Sir, take care of your own sexual preferences and permit me to say that the stability of my marriage or the continuance of my pension doesn’t depend on your own predilections.

    Despite your avoiding the issue, the yuvraj evokes curiosity, now more than ever about his preferences. If you feel constrained to say nothing about it, I can understand.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Sir,

    I might have been a little flashy with my newly acquired debating skill, but there was no intention to offend you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Prahlad Sir , Your another SUCKER PUNCH.I guess THE FAMILY PENSION is so paltry for shenoySir’s
    even increasing INFLATION in HOROMONAL DRIVE

    Anonymous Reply:

    CHingulate Sir,

    If you say Prahlad Sir has dealt a “sucker punch”, I may even accept it as such.

    But, for you, the sucker punch comnes when you gyrate (as your name suggests) on the ’shwethaling’ firmly in

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Congress inducts its own Kushwaha but media is mum..I guess they have been paid for the silence.

    http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=750556

    UP Polls: Cong Fields Tainted Former BSP Minister

    In a surprise move, Congress fielded tainted former BSP minister Anis Ahmed Khan alias Phool Babu as the party candidate from Bisalpur Assembly seat in Pilibhit district.

    The party changed its earlier announced candidate Dev Swarup Patel from the seat and yesterday decided on fielding Phool Babu from the seat, Congress sources here said.

    To questions, they said that they are not aware of the developments and the decision has been taken at the top level.

    No formal announcement has also been made in this regard, they said.

    Khan was sacked by Chief Minister Mayawati following reports of misuse of his MLA fund. He was also denied a ticket by Mayawati.

    Khan was the minorities welfare minister. Polling on the seat is scheduled for March 3.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev,

    you are mistaken.

    You see, the minister belongs to the minority community, which cannot be accused of corruption of the Khushwaha kind.

    And the party which has inducted him into is the congress, which is also free from any taint of corruption in its sixty five years of rule in India.

    Lastly, the leader who inducted him into the party was none other than Rahul Ghandy, the paragon of all virtues.

    Therefore the ,media id right in not actually hidingit, but showing it in small print on page 17 in small print.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Silence of Congressi-Jihadis is deafening…

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  • Anonymous

    sorry for the fragmented posting

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Chingulate,

    fragmented post is alright, but not figmented posts.

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  • Anonymous

    Contd: ONE FEET long wodden garden equipment which looks exactly like a rolling pin (Belun) and it had perforated his sigmoid colon. I had to open his abdomen to retreive that damn thing. He made good recovery.
    Talking about prostitution , I remember my biology teacher in school told us , “If there were no prostitutes in this world OUR WIVES DAUGHTERS AND SISTERS would become a victim of sexual predators.Such was the quality of teachers in calcutta those days.Ravi has rightly said in UK it is mostly to feed their DRUG HABIT they turn to prostitution. But that is partly true , dole money just keeps you afloat , i read in a magazine one prostitute said , once she got the taste of easy money ,she could not stop.
    Though prostitution is legally banned , prostitution is everywhere in uk.
    A LOT OF DEMAND IS MET BY GIRLS FROM CHINA FAR EAST AND EAST EUROPE. There have been several raids. I have seen in TV news women sold like cattle in Bulgaria
    My observation is after the introduction of Cable Tv /VCR and wholesale availability of PORN in India , rape and other acts od sexual violence in India has increased 100 fold.
    KERALA used be the SOLE source of SOFT PORN in India.
    In calcutta one saw the hoarding of these film with suggestive . names like
    Wet dreams. NO WONDER KERALA IS THE SEX SCANDAL CAPITAL OF INDIA.I think till 80’s India did hold its own well .Films like Rajanigandha , Choti Si Baat or any film and the heroines NEVER evoked anything other than romantic thought. Just watch again and again the song ABHI NA JAO CHOD KEY , in You tube sung by Dev Anand and Sadhana.
    I end this piece by relating a shock of my life that i experienced in India.
    I was watching Cable TV , I think it was BBC news or something.
    Then all of a sudden the screen went blank and blue. A voice in bengali said and i am translating “Now you willbe shown late nightb movie”
    Innocent and naive that i was , having just arrived at calcutta , I was perked up with the expectation ,perhaps some horror movie from hollywood or something thereof. HOLY MACCARONI , what unfolded on the screen
    WAS HARD CORE PORN with no dialogues only action.
    Thank goodness there was nobody in the room.
    Typically of the american socialscientists APPARENTLY THERE IS NO EVIDENCE PORN USE IS ASSOCIATED WITH RISE IN VIOLENCE, it may actually reduce violence.

    I STRONGLY DISAGREE

    Comments invited

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That is the trouble with porn. All the antasies are lit up… leading to body abuse

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  • Anonymous

    SEX LIES AND VIDEOTAPE AND PROMISE TO VIJAY SIR
    Well folks above is the name of a memorable film , which won awards at cannes.
    The most memorable scene was , when the hero realises his domestic life is unravelling ,(he was having a “bit on the side” with his sister-in -law) he says to himself “I dont mind whatever happens to my life SO LONG MY WORK IS OKAY”
    Well that is PROTESTANT ETHICS for you , WORK , For Indians particularly around Delhi and A raja Country it would be GHOOS.
    The one by a Delhiite Dibakar banerjee , LOVE SEX AUR DHOKA was also outstanding . In UK as a surgeon i have come across ALL SORTS.
    I had female patient with the VIBRATOR stuck up the road, which needs general anaesthetic to remove. I had white male patient with carrot stuck in the posterior needed general anaesthetic, so did an Indian with Banana stuck up his posterior.
    I am not telling which part of india he hails from. The one that needed BIG OPERATION was a van driver who had stuck a

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  • Anonymous

    Gopi & others

    Bureaucrats beware: Inept can be sacked after 15 years

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Bureaucrats-beware-Inept-can-be-sacked-after-15-years/articleshow/11800297.cms

    Excerpt

    Officers adjudged as inefficient and non-performing will be shown the door and even those who make the cut will need to remain on their toes as they face another review after 25 years of service or on turning 50, whichever happens first.

    ————–

    If it happens, a move in the right direction. Lot of dead wood and suspect material can be weeded out.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    This is in the right direction.. Even 15 is too much…but little steps are better than no steps…

    Frankly speaking, everything is falling apart.. so any small good news is a little soothing

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree. If you recall, we had discussed it earlier. Review every 8 to 10 years. Perhaps, this will happen in due course.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But the problem is HONEST officers will be the one who will be sacked for ineptness to follow political master.

    Who will decide if a officer in inept? The like of MMS or Sonia or Modi.

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  • Anonymous

    See the Porn scandal in the same light as A Raja scandal :

    One small act by these two ministers spoiled the good efforts by BJP leaders. Mr Advani et al must be finding it difficult to explain this silly act. The senior leaders must only be feeling ashamed. But they have to go through this ordeal.

    Similarly a small act ( inviting friends to file the tender documents in a pre-defined time frame and getting financial benefit ) created such a huge scandal for the UPA, while the alliance was riding high on good works of UPA 1.

    Sometimes one feels so helpless ! You can not do without such people, because you first need to be in power to good works.

    Like Nana Patekar’s famous dialogue : ” Just one mosquito……”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Prahald I am definately going to nominate this for BOOKER prize for fiction.

    Next time a COngress lead government causes losses of 176000000000000 crores, we can always nuetralise this loss by saying ND Tewari and Maderna were having fun baba !!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    What can I say ?
    You set benchmark for yourself.
    All the best.

    Everybody lese has seen through that 1.76 lakh crore figure. But you are still in denial.

    What can I say ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Prhalad

    Come on. CAG is a government agency which deals with finance. The CBI is a government agency dealing with crime.

    The CBI wil find he crminal, though it will restrict itself to non congressis.

    The CAG figure should be more reliable here.

    And of course the cdution which will happen will prove that maybe it was 30000 crores per year….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    I do not like to repeat.

    Please refer to my take on CAG ( 2G case ) in the last post.

    I am sure you do not want to copy n paste all over again.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon cmon

    The humpty dumpty called UPA 2 has collapsed…

    All the media men
    Cannot put it together again!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    Yet BJP is nowhere to be seen.

    So much for a National party !

  • AshishC

    I was watching Veerappa Moily hyperventilating on NDTV today morming- short of asking for a firing squad for the offending ministers or asking the Karnataka cabinet to resign, he asked for everything.
    As a minister of company affairs, he and his cabinet is presiding over the rape of public finances (30000 crores) and this secular pornography is played on on national television day in and day out in full view of all of us. Seriously, NDTV, Timesnow, CNN– they all should be closed down for purveying porn in public domain.
    Also, I guess the BJP ministers are paying the price of not watching ND Tiwari or Maderna frolicking in bed- that would not have counted as porn. After all, you are only supposed to watch what the ruling party produces and for free.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    N.D.Tiwari was at one time the prime ministerial candidate.

    For his long and ‘meritorious’ service to the country, the government should honour him with a Bharat Ratna.

    After all, he is no less than C.Subramaniam or MG Ramachandran in politics.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish

    Now that the ministers have resigned, the matter (which was blown out of proportion in the first place) be laid to rest.

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    engrich Reply:

    let us see they really go.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar-

    So, you want them to resign for watching this??????
    Watching is bad, doing is good?????

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    Anonymous Reply:

    To me, it does not matter whether they resigned or not. I have not even bothered to read the news items -just went by the headlines. It was a non-issue to me. Worse thingd happen in the legislatures – disruptions and fisticuffs, et al.

    The point I was making that the whole business was blown out of proportion.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Ashish

    The HIndustan times and other dynasty feetlicking media were shouting RAPE RAPE to cover for the actual rape…

    Now by this logic, every time somebody opens the HIndustan Times in Parliament we all shold shout rape! After all the ad section of the HT offers “sensual full body massages (sic) by sexy sexy girls and boyz ! “

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    Anonymous Reply:

    amen!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There was no law violated…..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    WOW, so the maunbrat has ended today. When it comes to carnal matters , even DEVATAS can’t remain indifferent

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  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    3 karnataka ministers resign for watching porn on mobiles.

    ND Tiwari continued merrily after performing porn himnself.

    Maderna rapes a woman along with five others and leter kills her.

    Gehlot denies rape and defends Maderna.

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  • Anonymous

    Shan calls himself cingulate

    being in UK he is five hours late

    the porno-ministers resign to their fate

    but Shan dishes out his own porn plate after plate.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy was an ex bank manage er
    At present his conjugal life is a hopeless failure
    pucho quiu
    His “FAMILY PENSION”
    Ka ho gai hai RATION
    Nah mil raha hai night mey POTION
    But uska hormones are on TURBO
    Ab Baba Ramdev aur MOBILE PHONE HI bacchaye unko

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gyrating Chingulate,

    You have helped me to coin a word, figmenting.
    My conjugal life being a failure is your figmentation.

    By the grace of God, I am enjoying excellent marital bliss.
    But, I am sad that you have neither God, nor marital bliss.
    And from all available indications, it is too late for you now.

    But, you still have the option of hugging the “shwathalingam”.

    As for the pension, my wife too is getting her pension and I am modest enough to say that together, we are earning a a low six figure income per month, without, again, by the grace of God, any liabilities.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    garment factory owner,
    ban gaya hai loner
    kiu ki ghar me passion ka nahi hai woh donor
    factory ke sarey worker
    kiu na shenoy kare menage trois un sab par
    phir mobile phone mey enjoy kare sum sab milkar

  • Anonymous

    Gujarat HC raps Narendra Modi govt for ‘inaction’ during post-Godhra riots

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Gujarat-HC-raps-Narendra-Modi-govt-for-inaction-during-post-Godhra-riots/articleshow/11806101.cms

    The Narendra Modi government was on Wednesday pulled up by the Gujarat high court for “inaction and negligence” on its part during the 2002 post-Godhra riots that led to large-scale destruction of religious structures.

    ————

    Read on

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Actress Nandita Das draws a parallel between Modi, Hitler

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/vadodara/Actress-Nandita-Das-draws-a-parallel-between-Modi-Hitler/articleshow/11796402.cms

    Excerpt

    “It was during Hitler’s time that Germany’s best roads were constructed. These roads are even today considered to be best connecting European cities. Germany got best hospitals during Hitler’s time. He was a great music lover. He was a vegetarian. He was non-alcoholic person. But nobody remembers Hitler for this. Even people in Germany don’t remember Hitler for all this,” Das said, talking to media persons.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon manohar you are getting paranoid!

    The real Hitler is the COngress party. How did a national party created by Annie Besant and Dadabhai Naroji and Gandhi become a family property of the lineage of Feroze Gandy needs to be explained ot the people. Maybe you should give valid reasons that this is necessary for India !

    Meanwhile I think you should start thinking of reasons to prop up Raobert Vadra. He is going to take the crown…. the dark horse which India needs . As he so believes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,
    this cartoon explains in great detail the great work done by the Nehru-Ghandy dynasty, for which the Indian people are eternally grateful to them:

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am no admirer or keeper Robert Vadra. I am very glad, he is miles away from the constituency where I live. I do not have to bother. He is very nearer home to you than me.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    There are few things even I don’t like about Modi. He being a vegetarian and a non alcoholic. But I am sure of one thing that he will be remembered for many things
    he has done for Gujarat other than his alleged role in riots.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Only time will tell. So far, history says people are remembered for the misdeeds (alleged or otherwise) than for the good they may have done for the society. That is the gist of the statement by Nandita Das.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    Frankly speaking i rather have 75 Modies as CMs/Central Cabinet ministers rather than the present crop of corrupt and incompetent ones all over state capitals and in Delhi..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    Indians are funny people, unlike the Germans, who are morons.

    For the last few years, Indians remember Modi only for the various developmental things he has done in Gujrat, while only the seculars remember the riots and one congressi troll here and the two jihadis are the only people who chant, “Modi, Modi, rape rape”

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gujarat 2000 people killed = Genocide
    Modi = Hitler

    Delhi = 5000 sikhs killed = Seva
    Rajiv Gandhi = Bharat Ratna

    India is populated by morons such as Das and Manohar.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Much as I hate to say it, Rajiv Gandhi, who was honoured posthumously with the Bharat Ratna award, should be stripped of it, considering his active role in the pogrom aginst the Sikh Kaum.

    Anonymous Reply:

    out-of-work actresses do get their time in the sun and then all they do is Nazi nautanki!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Goip

    I am aware of your admiration for Narendra Modi.

    What Nandita Das is essentially saying that under Modi Gujarat is doing well – yet ………

    If you recall, I have on more than one occasion have said that Modi has been left alone to face the music, the others are roaming scot-free.

    Vijay

    Paranoid! Who me? I have for example have posted a news or talked about him about Modi after a long time. Just navigate back several blogs and check for yourself.

    The real paranoia – you and your saathidaar’s obsession with the Nehru-Gandhi family. Recall your yesterday’s posts here re: likely move by Robert Vadra – it was rather comic reading some of the posts , plus day-in and day-out slamming of the Congress and anyone associated (real or imaginary) with it. I would not have mentioned this, if not for your post about me being paranoid.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That’s a stretch..Hitler killed 6 million jews whereas under modi not more than 2000 muslims were killed and almost 300 hindus. If this is genocide then what was 1971 in east pakistan?

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  • Anonymous

    Enjoying my vacation at Bomby with little bit of work sandwiched in between. Next week
    will visit Kutch the place where I grew up.

    Vinay,

    It was definitely not a debt, just a humble request from a fellow blogger as I always enjoy
    reading your posts. Regarding your posts on Devadasis and RSS. Brilliant stuff.
    Logical and factual. Your one line – acceptance is not an endorsement – sums up the
    system of devadasis. And about RSS – liberals take RSS idiologly more seriously than
    the members of RSS itself – is the perfect picture of RSS today.

    Shenoy- your one liner on Taimur was one of your best.
    Mahesh- you pleasantly surprised me with your beautiful ‘ sher ‘ .
    ——————

    A Sindhi gentleman – are there any Sindhis on this blog, probably only one – opened
    a sweet shop. He put an advertisement in a newspaper. ‘ need four men to work in a sweet
    shop. Only qualification required – they should be highly diabetic .

    ————–

    A young son a Sindhi businessman asked his father ‘ will you teach me few tricks of business, as I want to become a businessman like you ‘

    Father: ok, go the terrace.

    Son went to the terrace and called his father.
    Father : now jump
    Son : papa, I will get hurt.
    Father: don’t worry, I will hold you, will not let you fall on the ground.
    Son jumped, father did not bother to save him. With his arm broken, son asked
    his father : why did you not try to catch me ?
    Father: this is the main lesson of business

    Dhandhe mien apne Baap per bhi vishwaas nahin karna.

    See you guys.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The son retorted business ka ek aur sabak, “But Police Se darna, child cruelty ka mamla hone ja raha hai”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The son retorted business ka ek aur sabak, “But Police Se darna, child cruelty ka mamla hone ja raha hai”

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  • Anonymous

    @ Prahlad

    I repect your knowledge fo teh COngress.

    As you say Vadra will become only as powerful as Arun Nehru…

    Remember Arun Nehru was the guy who was Nero in Martin Ardbo diaries. Then he blackmailed Rajiv….

    Kuch aisa toh nahi ho raha?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    I do not dine with shady characters and naturally do not know unnecessary details.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Oh!! but then the same shady Arun Nehru was close to Rajiv at one point and then to the messiah of honesty, VP SIngh…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And if u r referring to my dining with Amar SIngh… well I am a small fry baba! My client did the “talking.”

    I was only hoping to bump into Jayaprada or Bipasha…

  • Anonymous

    I don’t believe this. No comments today – is everyone busy watching Sachin?

    Aaj Tak – the sabse tej channel – has predicted that he would get his 100th ton today.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Ishwar

    100 is just another number. I think we should focus on winning more thatn sachin’s 100.

    This is a brilliant team. Unfortunately teh BCCI makes them run and run for its own cash. They even planned to make the IPL a 94 match nonsense.

    Today the face of Indian cricket is Mallya and SHilpa Shetty. Good fun for some time. But hardly inspiring in the long run. Genuine achievements like the world cup victory get hijacked by Mallya and co.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Agree with you about the effect of IPL on Indian cricketers. The sooner this tamasha
    stops will be better for Indian cricket. On the other hand would love to watch Sachin
    Scoring that elusive century.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It startede with a limited no of matches. But each year the greed of the BCCI keeps growing. They did not even bother to celeberate the world cup victory.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan & Vijay

    The whole thing is that ke bhaiyaa sabse baDaa rupaiyaa.

    Anonymous Reply:

    100 is just a number, a nice round number.

    But that is standing between Ten-dulkar and his Bharat Ratna!

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  • Anonymous

    This porn business in Bangalore is much about nothing..

    That our media will run with this sh— and ignore meaty stuff is unbelievable (there was no meat here!)

    Of course sex sells…

    Congress su–ing is way out open in HT.. Aurangazeb (personally I will not hire anybody with that name, but that is beside the point) and Sunita were showering their admiration for Rahul … how the land he walked became fertile, how the UP mass is mesmerized by him, how this time is going to be big………….(Cong recruitment of the BSP reject Khan will help).

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    Sab kuch gol mal hai!

    The MLA’s cannot be faulted totally though. The rave party which took place in Banglore was being discussed in the assembly. They were watching a video of the rave party and not a *** film.

    Strangely all teh TV channels gave the same titillating visuals from the rave party. They of course will not be hauled for porn…

    Sab kuch bikta hai
    Zameer bhi

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    Rave party was not being discussed. Please check the source all over again. No point trying…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Prahlad

    You are right on this. The initial excuse given by the MLA’s was that they were watching the rave party video.

    The channels did show the rave video for “fun”

    As for the MLA’s… in case they watched porn… then they are screwballs who shold resign.

    And yes… their excuse of watching the rape video to understand what a rave party is… either a case of an unimaginative excuse… or a case of failing the primary school and not knowing that v and p are different alphabets…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir and Prahlad Sir,

    Rave parties seem to be the in thing these days, particularly with the young.

    This time the thing happened, rather appropriately, in Udupi, the abode of Lord Krishna. There is a small island called St.Mary’s Island, which was the venue for the party.

    It was meant as a tourist attraction, and was arranged by the district admn. There was no minister involved in the affair.

    Some months ago another rave party had taken place on the outskirts of Bangalore, in which dozens of boys and girls were arrested for being in possession of drugs.

  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————
    ~~ DYNASTIC POLITICS ~~~ and the sickness of it ~~~~~~~~~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————-

    I am in the middle of a lengthy corporate meeting… but just need to type out this.

    The Italians are big family people, just like Indians. At least that is the impresion I have after following Italian films (Amarcord by Fellini), Italian writers (Mario puzo of Godfather) Italian Business men ( The Fiat and automobile saga) and Italian Dahlas ( The great family saga of Berlosconi).

    it is possible that Sonia believes in gr8 “family values.” From the silent bahu and the reclusive widow, she took over the COngress party, based on her Gandy family connect. Her elevation of Rahul too was of course based only on “family values.”

    Now is’nt it logical that in case Rahul considers himself unfit and Priyanka is reluctant… she will anoint the very very willing Robertji as the next PM???

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    Sonia (or Rahul or Robberji) is not at fault here. The fault (if there )is congress high command’s.

    The party systems here along with its power to nominate contestants and allocate constituencies is at the root of the problem – plus the infighting within the parties. So, the congressis settled on Shrimathi Indira Gandhi because they did not want anybody among themselves to be PM.. ditto when Rajiv Gandhi died — they bring a reluctant Sonia to lead because they did not want one among them to be the PM.. history repeats..

    Years ago Shrimathi Indira Gandhi contested from Shimoga, Karnataka (a “safe” seat) in addition to RaiBarelli (a risky one at that time).. Can you imagine something like that happening within the “primary” system in USA?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It is a system where the PM appoints the high command and then the high command reciprocates.

    Only PV rao escaped teh sysytem as everyone was in a state of shock and awe then..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju
    Shrimathi Indira Priyadarshini was a ‘compromise” goody goody” candidate that Kamraj Nadar brought into the heated “left/right” fight within the Congress party after Lal Bahadur Shastri died. Morarji Desai was the other potential PM candidate.
    Priyadarshini became the PM at a young age of 48. Soon she will show the party elders that she is not goody goody toy..Congress splits and mutates, but her faction wins elections continuously and consistently..

    In that process she created two generations of dismally poor people. Had Morarji been the PM, I believe we will now be a $6-$8 trillion economy, with 700 million middle class. he would have done what PV Narasimha Rao did in mid 1990s. And that was the clash within Congress – to follow the “right” wing policies of free enterprise or continue the “socialist” policies of Nehru. Shrimathi Gandhi significantly expanded the socialist policies – much more than Nehru’s original – and that was a big factor in her party winning elections.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Applause

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    Well said ! Even though I was not born then, the picture I have is of Mrs Gandhi trying to restrict enterprise and encouraging crony capitalism.

    Cars will be licencesd and the third company which will make them will be that of my son…. that type.

    However the world wanted to be socialist at that point. Maybe she could have usd her popularity better. Encouragin small enterprises BUT not restricting the big ones through controls.

    Unfortunately so much of her policies were in the end , al about propogating the dynasty.

    Something we are no seeing in the Rahul, Priyanka and Robert saga

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi Sir,

    We must not forget the “gungi gudia” episode. She too was treated badly by the senior leaders.

    I am not sure if Sh Moraji Desai could really lead us to a flourishing economy. If IBM and Coke episodes were any indicators, then he rather believed in “isolation” than “integration” with the World economy. Without integrating ourselves with the World economy there would have hardly been any opportunity to grow to a substantial size.

    Anonymous Reply:

    PrahladK Sir , Perhaps all those who can only make flippant remarks , you should suggest them read 1, INDIRA by Kathryn Frank
    2.INDIA AFTER GANDHI , by Ram Chandra Guha.
    Then “dim wits” will stop blabbering and appreciate the herculian task that Indira handled , ie ruling india through 68-80

    Anonymous Reply:

    To mix up american primary with Mrs gandhi standing from two constiuency , shows that you have got it all mixed up in your head.
    In a parliamentary system if you stand fronm FOUR constituency if you like , I beleive Lalu did from three.
    REMEMBER PARLIAMENTARY DEMOCRACY IS THE MOTHER OF ALL DEMOCRACY.The word parliament is derived from the word PARLEY , meaning a place to meet, as was the case in MEDEIVAL
    ENGLAND, when the barons used to meet together from all over england. Probably the first concept of democracy originated in greece and then we had the ROMAN SENATE which was so MIND BOGGLINGLY advanced in comparison to political systems in India

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    Anonymous Reply:

    yes Shan, I am sort of mixing the systems…A system where Shrimathi Gandhi represents Shimoga , or Sushama Swaraj represents Bellary is not a good sysetm..

    But i believe a presidential system of democracy, with a US type primary process, will cut out lots of corruption as well as family dynasties

    Anonymous Reply:

    I would be grateful if kindly explain how it will cut out DYNASTY in a presidential system. DYNASTY is at the helm because CONGRESS keeps winning elections,because people DONT VOTE FOR THE DYNASTY , but for the BENEFIT if any as perceived by the electorate delivered by Congress rule.
    When they are perceived SIDEKICK OF CPM,
    they are treated as such in WEST BENGAL , so people vote CONGRESS without DYNASTY at the helm.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    I like this post of yours.

    I feel this party is fortunate to be led by great but greatly unwilling leaders.

    Nehru was the first “Unwilling” (unwilling to leave the PM’s chair to Jinnah).

    Then came an unwilling Indira Gandhi (Unwilling to leave it to the Syndicate).

    On her death Rajiv was the most unwilling of all the Nehru-Ghandys.

    Then came Sonia Ghandy, who “unwillingly dislodged Sitaram Kesari and became an unwilling Presidente of the party which welcomed her most willingly.

    In 1998, she unwillingly went to the president of India and said, most unwillingly, that she had 272 MPs and if given a chance she would most unwillingly become the PM.

    Now, we have the yuvraj, genuinely unwilling, but being compelled, against his wish, to become a willing PM, because MMS too is unwilling to continue.

    I think, in about five years, we will have only Roberji who will be too willing to be the PM.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy

    good one…

    The lesson is that the unwilling becomes wellwilling!

    I vividly remember how Indira Gandhi was ’sold” to congress members.. and how she sent them to the outhouse..

    Anonymous Reply:

    I unwillingly admire your sarcasm. :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    On all the occasions, the people of India have wished the “unwilling ” leaders well and showered on them from deep wells of love.

    In the case of Nehru, they bore him no ill-will for willingly losing half of Kashmir to Pakistan and again losing to China. And, after seventeen years of ruling the country unwillingly and then became seriously ill with paralysis, then too the people didn’t will him to leave the chair willingly.

    And when he left this world rather unwillingly, he willed all his wealth to his daughter and his ashes to the nation.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    I unwillingly appreciate your humorous post.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    Can we check out that Sita ram Kesri rushed to the toilet willlingly or unwillingly when he was replaced by Sonia .

    Did someone bolt Sita Ram Kesri willingly or unwillingly…

    Anonymous Reply:

    In history, we have read of palace coups. There was also an airborne coup (Musharraf).

    This is the only instance, which can be called a loo coup.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Sir,

    Interesting observation.

    The willing and craving ones keep waiting ! Almost perpetually !!

    What an irony !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    “because they did not want anybody among themselves to be PM”.

    You have hit the nail on the head.

    Only if there was real inner party democracy (and not pretension) to elect a leader and the members respecting the verdict.

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  • Anonymous

    Ashsih

    You should patent the use of “Robberji”…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I second it.

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    AshishC Reply:

    All,
    I stay in Delhi; mujhe marna hai kya??

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    Anonymous Reply:

    think of Sonia’s Gestapo and the midnight knock.
    Also remember what happened to Ramdev.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pl. don’t offend Prahaladji, Manoharji, Raviji and Terroristji.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I second that too..Very original indeed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I third that !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Will our friend Prahlad address him as Robberji sir?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well Mohan Sir,

    I can address anybody Sir, so long people do not feel humiliated or degraded.

  • Anonymous

    When elections are announced there is an ELECTION CODE.
    On similar lines, now state assemblies are thinking of bringing an

    ERECTION CODE FOR THE MLAS, WHEN IN SESSION.
    ————————————————————————————-

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It needs to be confined in one’s abode

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Very good one.

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  • engrich

    gopi jee,

    2002 riots: Gujarat HC raps Modi govt for inaction

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  • Anonymous

    Tough to implement Food bill without revamping PDS: Pawar

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2871839.ece

    Agriculture Minister Sharad Pawar today said it will be difficult to implement the proposed Food Security Act with existing distribution system and suggested massive reforms.

    ———-

    Read on.

    ——-

    Vijay

    Look no mention of Modi or the BJP.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar-

    I agree with Sharad Pawar on this…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    The way we – or should I restrict to the Government – work is like this – if something does not work then instead of streamlining or repairing the system, we try and introduce some other measures to cover shortcomings.

    Take for example, corrupt systems. Instead of strengthening the existing systems and eliminating loopholes, we come up Jan Lok Pal.

    Same here, making the PDS system more efficient is the need of the hour. If it is done, half the problems the implementing the Food Security would not be there.

    But then who listens to Sharad Pawar? They did not listen to him, when he suggested that NREGA be temporarily suspended during harvest time in order to keep food prices down.

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  • Anonymous

    Manohar

    What is your reading on the first phase of UP polls?

    55% turnout is way too little – we had 75% plus turn out in the last assembly election here..

    Does it mean some – most probably Mayawati’s followers – lost confidence/interest and stayed home?.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    Perhaps a detailed reply later today after reading some news reports in minutely.

    The turn-out has been low, probably as you are aware because of the rain in many areas making the temperatures drop even further.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like Congress is going to win 55 seats out of 55 in first phase. Rahul is going to repeat Bihar.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev

    So do you think congress will win big there (or lose big like in Bihar)?/ I think it was a good tactical move for them to field ex BSP guy Aanis Khan.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,
    Congress has played both muslim and dalit politics to the hilt and it will help them for sure. They will do better than last time and may end up with 60+ seats but talk of 80+ seats is very optimistic.
    If Congress succeeds in getting 60+ seats, congressmen and its media will credit this improvement to Rahul Gandhi but if they don’t do that well, who will take the blame? The only person that I can think of is Rita Bahuguna…

    Let us wait and watch.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Rahul will repeat Bihar and retreat to Delhi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    Here is a good analysis of the first phase of the elections.

    U.P. polls: 62 to 64% turnout in incident-free first phase

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2871414.ece?homepage=true

    Excerpt

    In the 2007 Assembly polls, the BSP had bagged 30 of the 55 seats where elections were held on Wednesday and it would a tough challenge for the party, hit by controversies due to corruption cases, to retain the number.

    ———–

    Overall, my view based on the news reports and surveys, the BSP would be the only loser in these elections, all other parties gaining at its expense, leading to a hung house. Wheeling dealing will be norm.

    For whatever it is worth, projecting Akhilesh Yadav as the face of the SP would to its advantage. Mayawati, making herself inaccessible and haughty would probably not go down well with the people. Rahul Gandhi has put everything at stake – if the Congress does well, 200% credit will be given to him, if not, then it will be the fault of 200 other Congressmen. That is how the sycophant Congress operates. BJP may be the dark horse – it may get back its Baniya and Brahmin vote – not sure how much OBC vote would come to it. Overall, the votes are set to get splintered, among the 4 parties. A wide open race, if there was one.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Actually there is news, dalit being poor came out of homes and voted whereas well of upper castes and muslims stayed home. It may actually help BSP.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Let me tell you the locals in UP think it is going to be SP in the end.

    I was in Sikandrabad/ Bulandshaher/greater Noida area in evening… and there I could only see banners of SP and BSP. No Congress… no BJP.

    Up needs a division to get its development prioirtes right. Otherwise it is jsut a clar caste and religious divide there

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ TRUE DEMOCRACY ARRIVES IN THE CONGRESS NOW !!! ~~~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————–

    Friends, Indians and country men !! Hail the COngress for now….

    First time since last ten years we have a choice of four Congress President candidates…

    And they are….

    Sonia– rahul— Priyanaka and now ROBERT !!

    True democarcy ji true democracy !!

    Wah Wah w3ah!! Wah Wah !!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And the most unwilling would get the crown!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes yes!! The mos unwilling… I can almost see the people of India begging… and he royal family aking pity on us…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    So much ‘junoon’ vis-a-vis one family? In the last 7 hours, you have created three threads on the topic and you were calling me paranoid!

    Only if you would spend equal amount of time on the shortcomings of the BJP, not be denial about them and how it can become a real force to reckon with so that it be able to neutralise to whatever extent the influence of that parivar. To do this, one would need ‘nerve’ to call a spade a spade, however unsavoury. The choice is yours. I will join you in the debate constructively if you initiate one.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Manohar

    Did you not notice that I was praising the possibilty of greater democracy with another candidate, Robertji now being available…?

    As far as my “junoon” goes I have been variously called Idiot, flippant and sarfarosh all my life. And I luv it !

    But deep down I am a democrat with an abiding commitment to the country… and that is why I do make fun of certain situations and people– I am basically debating the way I am

    I sincerely do beleive that dependency on one family is bad for our democracy and our freedoms.

    Oh! And the BJP? I have mixed views on it. I know for sure that it would not compromise on terror the way the Congress does. It would not divide people into Muslims and Hindus and castes as the Congress does. It certainly has more inner party democracy. And most of all most of its members would certainly be more honest. And not dynasts.

    To make our democracy a success, we need a party to replace the ruling party every few years…

    But…

    In my opinion the BJP fails when it comes to

    —> Making sure that it has an appeal in all states

    —-> making sure that Muslims also find it as an attractive option. It may have a certain opinion on common civil law which I agree with. Or its opinion on section 370 which I again agree with. But it has to explain its stand to Muslims that this is the way to go for assimilation.

    —-> The BJP cannot take a stance against free markets when in opposition and be for them when in power

    —->. The BJP has to snap links with Shiv Sena or Ram Sena… all of which are fascists if it wants to be identified with Atal Bihari type of liberal views.

    Well its a long post… and i will close this for now…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,
    Please don’t talk ill of Robberji because he is damaad of every Congressi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Which part of america do you live . do you get indian foods there. how many indians are their in your neighbourhood, just curious. Have you been to Metropolital museum of Art, or Smithsonian institution

    Anonymous Reply:

    What is the relevance? Unlike you I still like India and Indian food & never suck up to Goras.

    Anonymous Reply:

    just curious , trying to map your vista

    Anonymous Reply:

    Unfortunately I have already mapped your vista and I don’t think I need to share my info. with you.

    You are basically a lonely bitter man who lives among bengalis and praises white lords.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Oh by the way, do you work/slave for a NAQSHBANDI company or a gora company, and which country are you residing at the moment , is it called Unites States of India. And another thing , the country of present residence, did their elected representatative pass a resolution , to bring you over , or did you queue days on end to get that touchstone

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do you even understand what is Naqsbandi?

    Rest of the stuff is as usual garbage.

    For your info, I did not queue but got called. I consider Goras as my equals whereas you consider them masters.

    You are in serious need of self-respect.

    By the way, read rediff blog on Rafale and LCA.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Chingulate,

    you said, “Oh by the way, do you work/slave for a NAQSHBANDI company or a gora company, and which country are you residing at the moment , is it called Unites States of India. And another thing , the country of present residence, did their elected representatative pass a resolution , to bring you over , or did you queue days on end to get that touchstone”.

    CAN ANYBODY HERE MAKE ANY SENSE OUT OF THIS GARBAGE?

    we know you are highly opinionated.

    this post shows you are also opiumated.

    Wake up Shaan Nirad Babu, from your opium-induced stupor and post coherent arguments.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This was trying to find out the depth of repulsion that naqshbandi has for ALL THINGS GORA.
    Perhaps the word SARCASM has no translation in Konkani

    Anonymous Reply:

    Robberji a.k.a. Robert Vadra Gndhi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    It was a long post, not boring at all. It is a beginning, but not enough punches to shake the BJP out of its slumber. Here is a long reply – someone will find it boring as well as entertaining at the same time. Really weird – no not the post.

    Yes, I noticed your ‘T-I-C’ praise, one more candidate as a Prime Minister without the Gandhi or Nehru as the surname!!!!

    As for the BJP, you said

    1) it has to making sure that it has an appeal in all states and that Muslims also find it as an attractive option.

    You did not elaborate as to how it has to go about it?

    2) the BJP cannot take a stance against free markets when in opposition and be for them when in power.

    How true. It means it has to stop practising double standards and doublespeak.

    3) The BJP has to snap links with Shiv Sena or Ram Sena… all of which are fascists if it wants to be identified with Atal Bihari type of liberal views.

    I wish the BJP has the nerve to do so. You omitted VHP & BD – who are no different from the two you mentioned.

    4) There are many other issues the BJP needs to work on. We can carry on discussing them every now and then.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What about Congress support to Indian Mujahideen and its mentor LeT?

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Manohar

    This is a valid point. TO a dispassionate observer and outsider the Congressi obfuscation of IM terror and creating religious divide thru reservation and EXclusion are a husge issue.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The post is about BJP. It was sought to be obfuscated by bringing in Congress. If you wish to discuss Congress, start a new thread.

    You also know that I do not respond to abusers/label fabricators – whether they make valid points or not.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nice deflection..This is congressi style of debate..

  • Anonymous

    This is NDTV idea of balanced debate..Sharma and Setalvad debating from the same side…

    http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/left-right-centre/riots-setback-for-narendra-modi-again/223339?hp

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Setalvad should not be given the time of the day!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Congress era riots are pure,

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    if Tv reports are to be believed, the Saghavan has submitted closure report of the Gulberg society riot case and it is believed that a so called ‘clean chit’ has been given to Narendra Modi.

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    engrich Reply:

    possible this is hindu justice system.in hindu justice system punishment is as per caste.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What about Islamic justice system if any?

    Which Islamic country treats non-muslims as equal citizen?

  • Anonymous

    Vijay dude maybe there is life in the Colum-bums yet, I bow to you, your debate with Manohar was first class. I could not have bettered your response on BJP vs congress below.
    but think if you had gone to DPS, esp DPS-RKP, then viju my dear yopu would have been debating in Parliament. now now, dont go blue, someone give him water, he’s choking !!!!!!!!!!!!
    But back to biz- I cannot even see why everyone is at all debating the politicos watching porn. i dont care what our factory workers get upto after they leave my premises, but if they were watching blue stuff in my time, then they first get Rizzy baby man to man, but second mistake- and you see the exit bhayya? raasta naapo

    in fact same applies to docs in hosp, MPs in sansad, darogas in thaanas- read filmfare, ok, see porn and youre out

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Rizwan

    You are implying that I join Kindergarten again… to get the DPS factor !

    Gr8 … ab parliament mein LALU- ullu- amar bhi debate kar rahe hai..

    It is better to stick to a more enlightened forum like this one!

    As for porn…
    I find it a bore

    We need to remember
    porn reduces sex to a mechanical numer

    That societies with too much porn
    Dont have many kids born

    porn makes you seduce
    But not reproduce

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rizwan,

    I agree with you that people everywhere should give full value to the salary/wages received. But dismissing them for reading filmfare or Playboy is an extreme punishment, totally disproportionate to the misdemeanor.

    Here in the Karnataka assembly, the ministers have resigned/were made to resign. It is also said that the video clip originated from a congress MLA, which was later downloaded by these ministers.

    It is also said that more than the porn content in the clip, it is an actual filming of Taliban style dismembering of rapists’ arms and legs and then beheading them.
    In sum, it is a live recording of the most violent barbaric executions. One MLA, who had reportedly seen it in his privacy, took violently ill with high BP and had to be admitted to hospital.

    This is said to be the reason for the three ousted ministers to watch it with horror-filled curiosity.

    It is now for the assembly speaker to bring the entire story into public domain.

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  • Anonymous

    This is for Doctors who learn about fighter planes from magazine and educate others.

    http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-rafale-is-fine-but-it-is-time-tejas-enters-mig-21-hangar/20120208.htm

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    Anonymous Reply:

    For software writers who have difficulty with english
    Kudos to the government for selecting a fighter aircraft for a depleted Indian Air Force, which currently fields barely 34 fighter squadrons (21 aircraft per squadron) against an assessed requirement of 45.

    While zeroing in on the French Rafale, New Delhi has said ‘no thanks’ to arms supply heavyweights whose political and technological clout often bludgeons procurement decisions in their favour.

    But that should not detract from the IAF’s credit for running a fair, transparent and relatively quick contest in which, for the first time in India, a detailed ‘life cycle’ evaluation looked beyond the fighter’s ticker price to the cost of operating it through a service life of four decades.
    FROM THE REDIFF.COM ARTICLE

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It is called Software Developer…so much for proficiency in English.. :)

    You basically have no clue what you are talking about. I can’t educate a Homeopathic doctor on fighter planes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan Sir,

    Was it intentional when you wrote – “software writers” ?

    Actually, 95% guys don’t develop, they just write code that too copying and pasting. Most of them would not know what to do if they did not have internet !

    Grill a so called software developer for 5 minutes and you can see him literally falling apart.

    They barely can think. Forget about lateral thinking.

    We Indians are surviving in IT industry through brute force and numbers.

    Sad but true.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sweat Shops!

    AshishC Reply:

    Prahlad Sir:
    Normally my policy is to bow to superior intellect such as yours and not get drawn in. Let me make an exception, just this once.
    Since you dismiss 95% of all software professionals in India as “cut and paste” artists- with no original thinking- may I humbly enquire
    a) What credentials and experience you have for making this statement?
    b) Have you had similar experiences interviewing candidates in any other field- masonry, farming etc where the figure is way below 95% for those who are unoriginal thinkers?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish,

    Bhai, why are you always so tentative, so unsure (apparently) and give the impression that the other fellow is right but still you want to know?

    Why this excessive humility?

    AshishC Reply:

    Shenoy,
    I am much to be humble about…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish,
    Prahlad kind of guy have entered software industry in last 10 years or so and feel that they know all. Indian IT guys who come to US are (pardon my language) absolute ‘Chu***yas’ lacking the very basic work ethics. They think drinking Coffee, Mountain Dew and checking facebook make them hip. Idiots. In fact when I go thru posts of Prahalad and Mahesh, I can see ignorant loudmouth Indian IT guy bullshitting about how many assignments they are working on..most of these assignments are nothing but creating documents and proposal for clients.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish Sir,

    Over the years I have dealt with people and formed this opinion. Infact, today itself I had to deal with similar situation and I must say my so called outrageous statement was not so outrageous after all !

    Guys with brilliant academic record stop thinking on the job. People offer solutions with gusto only based on stuff that’s available on the net. Ask them simple stuff based on whatever they achieved and delivered, they would start looking at the floor.

    I have had problems with graphics / game programming projects years back. Database was the only thing people would be comfortable. That also half baked.

    I have dealt with people from CMC, ESPL, NIC, NICSI, TCS…at different level yet was disappointed at their overall knowledge base. I deal with guys from IIT even now on certain projects and many a time I am disappointed with their disinterest in the possibilities.

    On few occasions, I was impressed with guys from Adobe / Macromedia. Never had any opportunities to interact with guys from Google or Apple. They must be good. But my feeling is that the top layers at Google must be outstanding while average joe at Apple could leave their competitors breathless anyday. And I am not debating about guys at Intel.

    Gopi Sir talked about few Indian projects. Even in those organisations, only the top layers were good. I am privy to the frustrations of top CEO/COO at few fairly large telecom MNC’s and the problem is almost omnipresent.

    A guy from Russia / Amsterdam could out-beat 10 guys from Infosys anyday. On the same project with a given timeframe. And my national pride is not misplaced.

    -
    Pardon me for saying so – the innovations in rural India have always left me spell bound, more than science fair at IIT’s.

    [ There are exceptions ofcourse. ]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Prahalad may be right because most of the people of Prahalad’s intellect are nothing more than copy and paste programmer. I have to deal with these guys everyday.

    We hired some guys who claim to have 10+ year experience but when I look at their code, I feel like puking. I was a better programmer in my first year of graduation.

    Actually trash coming out of Andhra and Tamil Nadu has lowered the image of Indian software developers. I fired few in last few months. By the way even Gora programmers are also in the same category..Most of them are Lakeer ke Faqeer..They lack original ideas.

    By god’s grace, I started as systems programmer and was in that industry for close to 12 years and that has helped me a lot.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well the trend started with the Y2K thing when mass programmers were produced in the hysteria which followed.

    But having seen the state of software in some countries I can bet my chaddi that the mediocre Indian programmer is only as bad as the mediocre gora or Russian or chinese.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right..Gora programmers are same as desi programmers minus Jugaad mindset.

    Secondly Gora programmers whine a lot and keep dishing out excuses.

    Anonymous Reply:

    For BOYS , who should not try to be men
    The two current competitors – the Rafale and the Eurofighter – are well matched and picking between the two of them was always going to be difficult. To date the Eurofighter has had a more impressive sales record, but it can be argued that in the Libyan conflict it was the Rafale that was the more impressive all-round performer
    http://www.defencereviewasia.com/articles/.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev,

    This chingulate is a pretender to so many things including knowledge of Hinduism, Islam, wahabism, jihad etc., etc., etc.

    Antony has been acused, for a long time of sitting on the files. And he is known the world over as an honest man. which was why he couldn’t bring himself to be a party to the corruption that has been planned in this purchase deal of $10Bn.

    However, even as per chingu’s own statement, theere is no difference between the Eurofighter and Rafale. Therefore, it can be safely said that Rafale boys grew up, suddenly as it were, into men and took a measure of the depth of the congressi pockets and agreed to fill them.

    SIMPLE.

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  • Anonymous

    NY Times article on UP election —
    The demographic macro numbers are depressing!….

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/world/asia/uttar-pradesh-election-is-window-on-indian-politics.html

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  • Anonymous

    @Binoy Hegde, Thanks for the link. Macro Numbers were well known to anybody flicks through data on India.
    However this brings me to my query , the answer to which I am searching for a long time.THE ENIGMA OF SOUTHERN STATES , particularly TAMIL NADU
    Caste surely can’t be a factor SOUTHERN STATES are viciously caste divided societies.I mean land of Periyar is CASTE AND NOTHING BUT CASTE.Your own state KARNATAKA is also completelt caste ridden.
    As to the popular films in Tamil Nadu , they are MICKEY MOUSE films in cultural terms.THEY ARE SO CRUDE AND VULGAR , with BUXOM heroines and that guy in Tamin Nadu , Vijayshanti or something , who contested election LOOKS LIKE ASURA. Yet in every parameter they head the list.With Kerala i can understand GULF REPATRIATED MONEY had brought changes.
    Tamil Nadu in 70’s was a awful place , that is why YOU HAD EXODUS TO SLUMS OF BOMBAY AND THAT DON MUDALIYAR ON whom the film DAYAVAN is based.
    Your comments willbe appreciated

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan-

    I did not understand your question well.

    Taamil Nadu DMK politics, although started as an anti-Brahmin political movement, is now mostly beyond casteism. DMK and AIDMK have all sorts of castes in those, There are speicfic caste based parties like PMK, to which the ex Health Minister Dr Ram Doss belonged.

    DMK will wither away. AIDMK, under Jayalalitha (( a Brahmin caste member) will remain a dominant party for a long time. Congress is basically dead; so also the leftist parties.

    Karnataka may have more “caste orientation” , with Lingayats strongly supporting BJP.

    Kerala, as fara s I know, does not ahve any caste based parties. Obviously the left is quite strong there; so also Muslim League.

    Is your question more to do with the educational/economic progress in southern states vis-a-vis UP or other northern states? I can try to elaborate.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,
    For Shan UK and Bengal are land of milk and honey & rest are garbage dumps.

    He once boasted that Bengal doesn’t have criminal politician but when I posted a link to prove just the opposite, Babu Moshay quietly retreated.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes precisely, also CASTE is still a dominant player in tamil nadu , else the reservation at some colleges near 90% , thus all bramhins driven out. Despite all that education/literacy , and most important per capita GDP wise they are high. IS COMPLETE ABSENCE OF UNIONS may be an answer. As I again say KERALA , gulf money has played a big part

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan
    There are several factors i think are relevant.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan-

    There are several factors I think that are relevant.
    Tamil language is quite ancient, with the original Tamil, “Chentanil” (red Tamil) totally devoid of/unconnected to Sanskrit – in fact many DMK leaders gave up their given names for ancient Tamil names like Ambazhagan, Nedunchezian etc.
    There was a high place for arts, literature etc in the competing kingdoms of the Sangam period. Epics like Chilapadikaram, Thirukkural etc were written in the 200-300 AD time frame. The first woman poet of Indian region (or may be the world) , Aandal was from Tamil Nadu around 3rd century AD. — Aandal is now worshiped as a goddess) Great cities like Tiruchirapalli, Madurai, Coimbatore, Chennai, Tanjore, Tirunelveli were built by these competing kings to be one upon (I believe Tamil Nadu may have more “”cities” than any other Indian state ) promoting trade, education, arts..The later Brahminic, western (Dutch, French, East India company etc) influence also helped in education.
    Most of the south was under the ancient kings of Tamil Nadu at one time or other; so some of these spread to these regions too,
    I believe women.s status was a bit higher in the south compared to North.. You can never see a woman covering her head with sari in the South. In fact, in the present day Kerala region, only women had property rights among certain communities. Kerala’s high level of educational attainment does not have anything to do with gulf migration. They had achieved “100 % literacy” long before due to a combination of factors – early christian influence, benevolent Kings like the King of Travancore who started many schools and colleges, the higher status of women, etc..
    Karnataka region also had a similar genesis. The early Jain influence, the industriousness of bunts and gowdasaraswats, reformist movements like Madhwa, Vijaynagar and later Mysore empires …. .

    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy-
    There are many otherprominent cities – Tuticorin, kumbhkonam, Salem, Erode, Vellore etc – in Tamil Nadu. You may be right that TN may have more cities than any other state.

  • Anonymous

    Citing BJP pressure in Jayalalithaa case, Karnataka AG quits

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/karnataka/article2872785.ece?homepage=true

    The BJP government in Karnataka suffered another setback on Wednesday, with Advocate-General B.V. Acharya preferring to resign from his post rather than give in to “pressure” from the State government to quit as Special Public Prosecutor (SPP) in the disproportionate assets case against Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Jayalalithaa.

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    Read on

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  • Anonymous

    Gadkari said in one of the election rally “Ghodon ko nahi mil rahi Ghaas, Gadhe khaa rahe chyvanprash”..

    Our media is offended by this comment..How dare he call Rahul a Gadha?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Really Gadkari has gone too far. Let us all call the TV channels to debate this out. Why talk about 2G loot an licecnce cancellation…

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  • Anonymous

    ——————————————————————————————————————————~~ CONGRESS RATNA AWARD ANNOUNCED~~ with rajya sabha seat as bonus ~
    —————————————————————————————————————————–

    And the award goes to

    ——-

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    The chowkidar who locked Sita Ram Kesri in the toilet so that a resolution could be passed on him surrendering the COngress Presidentship and Sonia being “noinated and elected” unanimously…

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  • Anonymous

    Four old retired guys are walking down a street in London . They turn a
    corner and see a sign that says, “Old Timers Bar – ALL drinks 10p.”
     
    They look at each other and then go in, thinking, this is too good to be
    true. Each of the men orders a martini. In no time the bartender serves up
    four iced martinis and says, “That’ll be 10p each, please.”
     
    They can’t believe their good luck. They pay the 40p, finish their martinis,
    and order another round.Again, four excellent martinis are produced, with
    the bartender again saying, “That’s 40p, please.” They pay the 40p, but
    their curiosity gets the better of them.
     
    Finally one of them says, “How can you afford to serve martinis as good as
    these for a 10p a piece?” “I’m a retired tailor,” the bartender says, “and I
    always wanted to own a bar. Last year I hit the Lottery Jackpot for £25
    million and decided to open this place. Every drink costs 10p. wine, liquor,
    beer—it’s all the
    same.”
     
    “Wow! That’s some story!” As the four of them sip at their martinis, they
    can’t help noticing seven other people at the end of the bar who don’t have
    any drinks in front of them and haven’t ordered anything the whole time
    they’ve been there. Nodding at the seven at the end of the bar, one of the
    men asks the bartender, “What’s with them?”
     
    The bartender says, “They’re retired “sindhis ” from Ahmedabad, They’re
    waiting for Happy Hour…..!!!!!
     
     
     
     
     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Really gr8

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Jokes can’t get dirtier than this:

    A woman in the bar says that she wants to have plastic surgery to enlarge her breasts. Her husband tells her, “Hey, you don’t need surgery to do that. I know how to do it without surgery.”

    The lady asks, “How do I do it without surgery?”

    “Just rub toilet paper between them.”

    Startled the lady asks, “How does that make them bigger?”

    “I don’t know, but it worked for your ***.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good one :)

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  • Anonymous

    Governance after 2G

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/governance-after-2g/909619/0

    What is the significance for governance of the range of orders (Swamy vs Singh and Centre for Public Interest Litigation vs Union of India) passed in the 2G case? Only time will tell. Decisions acquire significance in light of a subsequent history. Vineet Narain and Others vs Union of India was a legal landmark; but its actual effect on governance was slight. Decisions like the Three Judges case were made on dubious legal grounds. But they salvaged the autonomy of the court as an institution. Even the famed Kesavananda Bharati vs State of Kerala, a complex and contradictory melange, acquired significance through later developments.

    ———–

    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~ CONTINUING THE PRAHLAD vs ASHISH debate on INDIAN Software developers~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————–

    I am pushing u this debate upfront here, as my photon connection being used in a backseat of a Safari on a crowded city road does not allow me to navigate 4 pages back…

    My honest confession first. I am NOT a software expert. But Prhalad ji are we really all that bad?

    From the Boeings in the sky to the trains running in many a country… the Indian software hand is invisible but visible…

    So why this self flagellation?

    let me make my second confession. Besides waging a battle for my dal-roti, I am a small part of a brilliant team onto a possible breakthrough project in biophysics.

    One thing I have learnt is we dont need Einsteins at all levels. Having one a the top is enough. Rest can be competent plodders and followers who do the the hardwork thoroughly.

    Cmon Prahlad. Be a bit more cheerful and respect the industry which gave us hope after the dark days of a closed economy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    I do not know where Prahad is coming from on this. May be he is arguing that the true true innovative stuff like search algorithm, mobile computing, etc etc (Googles, Facebooks, Microsfts etc) are still western/American inventions.

    However, what India has done in “software manufacturing” , scaling for software services etc cannot be minimized. Cognizant, Infosys, Wipro, TCS etc are globally respected, global brand companies in services.

    Also, a good percentage of the members working on advanced computing platforms f today and tomorrow are Indians. A good number of google teams/divisions are headed by Indians.

    A large number of employee millionaires (in dllars) have been created by new breed companies such as Infosys

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    You said it better than me.

    Probably a total product created by an Indian and marketed by a Indian company is still missing.

    But…

    It is a global world now. Landrover may have an English name… the owner could be our own OK TATA

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    India has a good “software mind”. Several innovative “apps” are built here in Iindia. Lots of mobile platform based applications are developed here. Several core banking software packages including the Oracle acquired IFlex have been developed here.

    The software future is bright indeed! (along with youngsters like you, aaloke, Rizwan, Shoeb, Iswar, etc),

    Anonymous Reply:

    Liberalization, FDI, govt out of business (just collect tax), conducive ecosystems etc all are keys for innovation, market capturing..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi Sir,

    India has produced brilliant managers than software wizards. Indian managers have done wonders at various levels.

    Even the Indian companies you talked of are great for their managerial abilities than software ingenuity.

    We must mark the difference.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Prahlad

    the nature of the beast is that no single person is responsible for big software breakhroughs..

    You may be right we dont have top top creative types — but then that is not limited to the software field.

    My prognosis is that when good students know that zillions can be made from unique software, fancy applications etc, they will migrate to Computer Science, Science etc education rather than medicine, MBA etc..

    The quality of software people cannot be different from the quality of other dsciplines.. Too many bad colleges have come up in India producing ill qualified people for anything, leave alone software…many have moved into software (as Rajeev mentioned — the”AP graduates”)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi Sir,

    What I was trying to point out that though we all talk about Indian software prowess, we are actually bad at that.

    We are great entrepreneurs and brilliant managers.

    We are yet develop the sense of design like Italian/French or knack for innovation like Japanese.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @PrahladSir, with your above lines , I REDEEM my hope in India , perhaps someday the “TURDS” in the govt will heed to your sage opinions

    Anonymous Reply:

    Brilliant Indian Managers..It is an oxymoron because most of the Indian manager have huge ego with pea-sized brain.

    Anonymous Reply:

    correction: I meant I am the dumb guy in the team of researchers

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    Only when you know good you could be, you would know how bad you are !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,
    This Prahalad in newbie and has no clue. Must be working for some sweatshop like Infosys, TCS and Wipro. The kind of nonsense he comes up reminds me of a teammate who went around searching google for ready made code. Unfortunately most of the dumb programmers support Congress and come from AP.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Searching google for code is funny.

    I guess many a people who should be working on the other end– as application users or computer and IT operators have got into programming.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There are even worse cases but I don’t want to demean those people because at the end of the day, I know that they are good people trying to make honest living.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    It’s not funny. That’s how these so called brilliant programmers survive on day to day basis.

    Anonymous Reply:

    As the word BIO has been dropped , you are walking down my alley .would you kindly elaborate waht BIOPHYSICS project you are involved in that is sure to fetch the next Nobel Prize

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Cingulate

    In case someday you hear of a team which uses principles of biophysics to cure arthirites, backache, asthma etc or at least adds some knowledge to the understandin of them… you can guess we could be among them.

    Beyond that I am honour bound not say anything…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    To associate ASTHMA with BIOPHYSICS is like associating BIOCHEMISTRY with acoustic sciences. For the rest I can enlighten you if you wish , for a lot is known already

    Anonymous Reply:

    asthma may have been a wrong word to use. It should have been respiratory intake and oxy-blance.

    Like I said I was dumb

    But the team I have worked with have cured asthma…in many cases

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    Pasting the reply to Ashish Sir. Hope it explains.

    Over the years I have dealt with people and formed this opinion. Infact, today itself I had to deal with similar situation and I must say my so called outrageous statement was not so outrageous after all !

    Guys with brilliant academic record stop thinking on the job. People offer solutions with gusto only based on stuff that’s available on the net. Ask them simple stuff based on whatever they achieved and delivered, they would start looking at the floor.

    I have had problems with graphics / game programming projects years back. Database was the only thing people would be comfortable. That also half baked.

    I have dealt with people from CMC, ESPL, NIC, NICSI, TCS…at different level yet was disappointed at their overall knowledge base. I deal with guys from IIT even now on certain projects and many a time I am disappointed with their disinterest in the possibilities.

    On few occasions, I was impressed with guys from Adobe / Macromedia. Never had any opportunity to interact with guys from Google or Apple. They must be good. But my feeling is that the top layers at Google must be outstanding while average joe at Apple could leave their competitors breathless anyday. And I am not debating about guys at Intel.

    Gopi Sir talked about few Indian projects. Even in those organisations, only the top layers were good. You don’t find a Jerry Rao everywhere. I am privy to frustrations of top CEO/COO at few fairly large telecom MNC’s and the problem is almost omnipresent.

    A guy from Russia / Amsterdam could out-beat 10 guys from Infosys anyday. On the same project with a given timeframe. And my national pride is not misplaced.

    -
    Pardon me for saying so – the innovations in rural India have always left me spell bound, more than science fair at IIT’s.

    [ There are exceptions ofcourse. ]

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Prahlad nd Rajeev

    Pick up the globe if you have one… in your house. Then look at all the countries.

    Believe me there would be very few who would pass the criteria of

    a) English language usage

    b) Willingness to do long hours at comparitvely low wages

    c) Some good colleges which teach mathematical abilities

    d) being jugaadu

    There would at best be 15 countries where this could be done. We are there for these reasons.

    However

    We know that many of the pvt colleges, especially do NOT produce much quality but are in a hurry to clear students to take in more. The problems are there. Somebody has to work out the solutions.

    When I was in college in the late ninties… many of us felt that there is not much happening here. But the more I see of the world.. the more I realise that there are bigger duffers all over. :)

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  • Anonymous

    Is Hindu terror that big or is it just a hype to placate agitated muslims?

    http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-is-hindu-terror-as-big-as-its-made-out-to-be/20120209.htm

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    Anonymous Reply:

    it is the secular stuff …These guys are afraid they will lose the Mislim vote if they do not talk about the so called Hindu terrorism.

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    engrich Reply:

    bullshit.law should its course,modi should be hang in front of jafri house.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If law had taken its own course, Mohammad would have been hanged for mass murder of jews and pagan arabs.

    engrich Reply:

    awnser is very bullshit and reactionary.not worth awnsering.

  • Anonymous

    TIMES NOW says that it has “Exclusive” details of the SIT Report from sources

    I am at work and not watching the channel live. If what they are showing is true then the last word on Modi’s alleged role in 2002 riots have been spoken – there should be no further cries.

    The report has 7 critical findings:
    a) No charge of conspiracy is proved against Mr. Modi
    b) Mr. Modi had no prior info. on threats to Ehsaan Jafferi’s life
    c) Mr. Modi took appropriate steps to control the riots
    d) The decision to bring bodies to Ahmedabad was right as most of the victims were from Ahmedabad or adjoining areas. This was the best place for identification
    e) Bodies were not paraded and brought in the night to Sola Hospital in the outskirts of the city. Additionally, cold storage and DNA testing facilities were not available in Godhra, and
    f) Sanjeev Bhatt is an unreliable witness as proved by questioning his driver Tara Chand Yadav and other officials at the 27th Feb meeting at CM’s residence.

    Now, would the Teesta’s and her ilk shut up and get lost in the outser space? The same goes for some of the people here on this blog who think of her as a messenger of God?

    I am absolutely delighted today… throwing a laddoo party… all are welcome in New Delhi…those interested can ask for the exact address.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,
    Whatever the case, the fact remains Modi was incompetent in stopping riots and he should pay for that.

    We let Rajiv Gandhi escape the responsibility for 1984 but we should not repeat it again in case of Modi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev,

    I think otherwise. Mr. Modi was only a few months into his chief ministership. He did best that could have been done to contain the unfortunate (I find it justfied – that’s a different story) riots that broke out as a result of the Godhra train burning. He was to be hanged only if it was proved that he instigated it. This isn’t the case.

    Ordinary men do not react sensibly all the time. There are times when people do get agitated and their reactions are disproportinate. The Muslims (yes – the Muslims) asked for it and got what they deserved. We haven’t seen many after that. They now know their place in Gujrat.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Iswar

    I agree and diagree with you here

    I would agree that riots are a madness which can become difficult to control. I have seen them closely on some occasions and know that they are an evil which require skill acumen and strenght for controlling.

    I would disagree when you say that Muslims asked for it. The train burning and the death of the kar sevaks was bad. But to punish others for the offence is sad.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,
    I think response to Godhra was dis-proportionate and directed towards innocents who had nothing to do with train burning incident.
    Had the riots been restricted to Godhra, I would have accepted it as revenge attack but riots at state level can not be impulsive but driven by planning.
    I too like Modi but I like law more. The law is bound to give justice to innocent.
    I feel ashamed whenever sikhs badmouth India and hindus for 1984. They too need justice.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Iswar

    Agree

    engrich Reply:

    riots that broke out as a result of the Godhra

    this is lie riot was preplanned.gundaas of bjp and rss were perpetuating communal riots since 1969.almost one in a year.1969 riot was very very brute as well killed thousands.

    most incompetent of society become rss/bjp member.can not win election without perpetuating riot.

    engrich Reply:

    b) Mr. Modi had no prior info. on threats to Ehsaan Jafferi’s life

    he made 100s of calls to modi even to advani.he struggles for life for 2-3 hrs at least one parsi boy was also burnt alive.

    modi was using hids top police officers along with petty gundaas in his money extracting bussines.since these policemen are caught and put in jail,now no jihadi coming to kill stupid killer modi.

    bogy was put on fire by modi men to provide reason for riot which was preplanned.within half hours many muslim shrines were demolished and municipality build road there.

    modi is criminal ,indian juciary has many loopholes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How do you know Jafri made 100 calls?

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    engrich Reply:

    this is what survival says.he was awbsering TOO ABHI ZINDA HAI.this is also natural.a dying man will call of help specially when he knew him.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Isn’t your info. based on gossip?

    Where are the facts?

    engrich Reply:

    progenies of jafferi confirm this to panel.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Are progenies of Jafri Syeds? May be they are lying. Don’t forget Islam allows lies to achieve ends.

  • Anonymous

    There is an uproar regarding behavior of 3 BJP MLAs found watching porn in ASSEMBLY and rightly so. One of the guys has cut off electricity to his village so that this news doesn’t spread there. The other one has bought all the paper that were to be distributed in his area. What kind of nonsense is this? Are they mini ND Tiwaris (porn) and mini Kapil Sibals (restricting flow of info.)?

    It is time such kind of people are stopped from entering electoral process. India needs immediate electoral reforms and then only we can talk of curbing corruption.

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  • Anonymous

    Here is an article from Outlook regarding Nehru’s sexual adventure..worth reading

    http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?223036

    JAWAHARLAL NEHRU
    “If I Weren’t A Sanyasin, He Would Have Married Me”
    A dapper PM. An alluring godwoman. A bunch of letters and a still-born child. Outlook unravels a little-known Nehru story…
    SHEELA REDDY

    One day in April 1949, Dr Ezekiel, a lady doctor working in a hospital near the Cantonment Station in Bangalore, took pity on a pregnant woman who was thrown out of a hospital because she refused to divulge her name or address. All that Dr Ezekiel knew about the woman was that she was from North India and looked affluent, although she had very little money on her. So taken in was Dr Ezekiel by the woman in her early 30s that she rented a small house for her in the Benson Town area for Rs 50, bought her provisions, arranged for a dhobi and took her twice by taxi to a Roman Catholic hospital in the Civil Station for examination.

    The would-be mother spent a month in Bangalore reading and re-reading from a packet of letters she carried with her at all times, keeping them under her pillow when she slept.

    It is perfectly true that the lady has met me several times…we usually discussed two things: the Hindu Code Bill and the question of language, Hindi.

    After one false alarm, she was rushed to the Catholic hospital on May 30, 1949, where she delivered a stillborn child the same night. She stayed at the hospital for nine days and returned to her rented home to recuperate for another 10 days before she finally took the flight back to Delhi on June 19, promising to repay her debts to the Ezekiels which amounted to Rs 600.

    She forgot, however, to carry her precious letters back with her. They were intimate letters written to her by the Prime Minister of India, Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru. She was Shraddha Mata, a young attractive sanyasin whom Nehru appeared to be besotted with.

    A retired chief justice of the Punjab and Calcutta high courts, Debi Singh Tewatia, a friend of the sanyasin, revealed to Outlook the full story of the Nehru-Shraddha Mata relationship. This is how it goes:

    The Ezekiels never heard from Shraddha Mata again. When even the letter they sent her at the address she had given—c/o Asutosh Lahiri, gshms, New Delhi, was returned unopened, Dr Ezekiel’s husband turned to Dr Karamchand Wade, a Hindi scholar and a friend, for help.

    I could see Panditji was attracted towards this (pointing to her face and features). I met him many times and for many hours at a stretch.

    Was there any clue to her whereabouts, Ezekiel wanted to know, in the packet of letters which she had guarded so jealously but had forgotten under her pillow when she left?

    Wade needed only one glimpse of the first letter, sent from Government House, Lucknow, on March 2, 1948, to recognise the handwriting of Pandit Nehru. The other letters were also from Nehru, addressed to Shraddha, and “of an intimate nature”. Wade, an ardent admirer of the prime minister, was alarmed about the consequences to Nehru’s reputation.

    He paid Ezekiel the Rs 600 that Shraddha had borrowed and kept the letters. Wanting to deliver the letters personally to Nehru, he wrote to Nehru’s private secretary A. Vithal Pai, whom he knew. But Pai’s reply was not encouraging. Neither he nor the prime minister, Pai wrote, thought Wade should put himself to the trouble and expense of coming to Delhi to deliver the letters. He suggested that Wade send them by registered insured cover to Pai’s residence instead. Pai airily dismissed Wade’s claims of holding incriminating letters that would damage Nehru’s reputation. “It is of course possible that misleading and plausible interpretations might be put on one or two chits that you may have seen,” wrote Pai, “but the Prime Minister himself is not worried about improper or malicious use being made of them. I shall however wait to see the letters when you send them to me.”

    Wade wrote to Pai again, quoting from one of the letters in which Nehru says he may be able to see Shraddha Mata late at night after 10 pm.

    S.P. Mookerjee Aware of Nehru’s susceptibility to attractive young women, Mookerjee tried to get the PM to meet her. Failing once, he recruited friend Jagat Narain Lal.

    But Pai was unfazed. “No one need put any malicious interpretation on it,” he wrote. “The importance we attach to your letter is not because of any interpretation that can be placed in the message that you quote, but on the fact that what you say shows up the woman in a very bad light.”

    But the tenacious Wade decided to travel to Delhi and deliver the papers to Nehru in person.Nehru met him and gave him one of the more innocuous letters from the packet as a keepsake. It was for identifying himself in case Wade ever needed to see him again. Nehru also gave him an exclusive phone number where he could get in touch with him and offered him some assignments. But Wade turned down the offer, saying that he had taken the trouble to get hold of the letters and deliver them to him out of a patriotic spirit and regard for the prime minister’s reputation.

    Shraddha Mata was first introduced to Nehru in 1948 in what could have been a Hindu Mahasabha plot to subvert Nehru’s secular plans for India! Hindu Mahasabha chief Shyama Prasad Mookerjee, who first saw Shraddha Mata in Calcutta, mesmerising large assemblies with her lectures on the Vedas, invited her to Delhi. She had an equally impressive debut in Delhi where she addressed several meetings on her vision of a Hindu India.

    Vallabhbhai Patel The IB sent Patel an intercept: a Hindu Mahasabha letter that gloated over the success of “this contact”. Patel asked Nehru to explain, but he dismissed it airily.

    Aware of Nehru’s susceptibility to attractive young women, Mookerjee tried to get the prime minister to meet her. At first, Nehru, with his innate disgust for godmen and godwomen, refused, but Mookerjee recruited a friend, Jagat Narain Lal, to take her to the prime minister’s residence with him. One look at the shapely woman apparently bowled Nehru over. The 15-minute private audience he had granted her stretched to an hour and a half, and many more followed, usually late at night.

    By March 1949, Hindu Mahasabha leaders were celebrating the success of their ploy. Outlook’s research reveals that the Intelligence Bureau (IB) intercepted and forwarded a letter from the Mahasabha’s Ashutosh Lahiri to V.D. Savarkar, to home minister Vallabhbhai Patel. Lahiri was crowing about Shraddha’s “active contact” with Nehru. “I believe that higher powers are guiding the destiny of India. Who knows that this new contact, if it effectuates, might lead to quite new developments,” he wrote.

    On March 4, 1949, Patel forwarded the letter to Nehru, asking him for an explanation. Nehru replied the same day, dismissing the whole affair lightly: “…it is perfectly true that the lady in question has met me several times in Delhi and Lucknow…. (We) usually discussed two subjects—the Hindu Code Bill and the question of language, that is, Hindi. She tried to influence me in regard to these two matters and I tried to influence her the other way.

    Debi Singh Tewatia: the insider She was an orthodox Hindu and a very good orator. Her face was rather plain but her voice was bewitching, especially when she sang bhajans.

    I don’t know what success I’ve had, but she had none, so far as I am concerned.”

    Shraddha was more candid. In an interview with Khushwant Singh 15 years after Nehru’s death, she said: “At the very first meeting that took place in the house on Aurangzeb Road, we established a rapport which seemed to indicate that we had known each other in our previous lives. I could see Panditji was attracted to me. He was impressed with what I had to say. And I do not deny that he was attracted towards this (pointing to her face and features). I met him many times and for many hours at a stretch. I sensed his growing attachment to me. He asked me many times about my marriage and my husband. I can say that had I been free and not taken the vows of a sanyasin, it would have been me and not any of the other women whose names have been linked with him (Lady Mountbatten, Padmaja Naidu, Mrinalini Sarabhai) that he would have wanted to marry. But it never came to it. I told him quite firmly that I was a sanyasin and that he, as a Brahmin, was expected to honour Hindu traditions.” Shraddha, of course, denied that the relationship had ever gone beyond the platonic, but Khushwant was not convinced. “It was quite clear from all that she said that they did have an affair,” he told Outlook.

    In 1976, Justice Debi Singh Tewatia received a letter from Dr Wade asking for an appointment. They met. Wade, in his 80s then, produced the one letter that Nehru had let him keep.It was an innocuous two lines, but the story that Wade told Tewatia about what seemed to be Nehru’s illegitimate child was startling.

    The irony of fate was that Tewatia had known Shraddha Mata since 1952, when he and the sanyasin were residing at the same boarding house on 48, Parliament Street in London, and knew about Nehru’s relationship with her. “She was an orthodox Hindu and a very good orator,” says Tewatia. Her face was rather plain but her voice, Tewatia recalls, was bewitching, especially when she sang Meera’s bhajans. The young law student and the sanyasin met frequently and engaged in animated discussions on theological matters on which she was very well informed, devouring books in Hindi and English that lay in piles all over her room.

    Tewatia learnt that Shraddha was born in Sultanpur, given in adoption to her paternal aunt, the queen of a small principality near Ayodhya. Married at 14 to a distant cousin, an advocate from Agra, she sought refuge within two weeks of her marriage in Gandhi’s ashram. She later fled to the Himalayas, emerging as a full-fledged sanyasin at 26, sought out as a powerful orator and a living goddess. Shraddha did not make a secret of her political connections, especially with Nehru. Tewatia was himself an admirer of Nehru and it was to disabuse him about his idol that Shraddha told him of her intimacy with him. “I was arguing with her about the irrationality of palmistry when she suddenly said, ‘You think Panditji is a rationalist? He used to extend his palm for me to read like a child’,” he recalls.

    Shraddha seemed to know the then vice-president, Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan as well. When she was ready to return to India a couple of years later, she asked Tewatia to call Radhakrishnan. The number she gave him was of a hotel in London, and Radhakrishnan came on the line immediately when he learnt that the call was from Shraddha. It was the vice-president, says Tewatia, who arranged for her flight back home within a week of her calling him.

    Tewatia met her again almost a year later in August 1955 in Faridabad, Haryana. Her cottage was fenced in with a barbed wire guarded by several fierce dogs. One of her disciples let him in. They were both travelling to Delhi that afternoon and Shraddha offered him a lift in her new Packard car. The driver was a handsome Frenchman, Tewatia recalls. Her distaste for foreigners seemed to have vanished by then. “She even asked me if I had found a foreign wife for myself and when I reminded her that she was against Indians marrying foreigners, she said: ‘Indians are very bad. Foreigners are much better’.”

    Tewatia’s next encounter with the sanyasin was in 1966. “She was staying in Rajasthan House and I went to see her. She was quite changed. She had lost a lot of weight and her views were more progressive. She had become a leftist. She said something about Indira Gandhi I didn’t understand then. She told me, ‘Woh chudail mere peeche padi hui hai (that witch is after my blood).’ Tewatia did not ask her why. Ten years later, when he met Wade, he understood.

    Tewatia met Shraddha once again in 1985. He had arrived in Jaipur as one of a baraat party for the wedding of a nephew, and heard the night before his departure to Delhi that Shraddha was living right behind his hotel in an abandoned fort gifted to her by a devotee. She had changed almost beyond recognition, having become diabetic. But she was as friendly and hospitable as on their first meeting in London. It was the last time they met.

    Shraddha Mata, quite possibly the mother of India’s first prime minister’s still-born child, passed away in 1987.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A hindu ENGRICH in action. Actually you are acting like a true pakistani. I suggest bloggers watch the film JINNAH , starring Shashi Kapoor , made by a crypto jihadi Prof Abrar Ahmed. I thought I will be watching jinnah , but hey presto , half the film is occupied by Nehru and Edwina , AND EACH AND EVERY SCENE THAT HAS NEHRU AND EDWINA , IT IS ALWAYS IN EDWINAS BEDROOM .Typical PAKISTANI FERTILE BRAIN., The suggestion is Sexual favours SWUNG THE PARTITION IN FAVOUR OF INDIA.
    ONLY A PAKISTANI IS CAPABLE OF CONJURING UP THIS SALCIOUS TWIST TO HISTORY

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,
    Why don’t you read more about this Shraddha Mata and then give your opinion?
    This is not some conspiracy story but a fact.

    By the way I am not making any judgement on Nehru’s character. Even I will behave same if I get a chance. All I want to show is that he too was human just like you and me.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Let me give you some more TUTORIAL. M.O MATHAI , nehru’s personalsecretary had given salacious detail of nehru’s liason with shradha mata. The moment the book came out INDIRA GANDHI banned it.
    If you read the biography of NEHRU by MJ AKBAR , you will find in a typical “recently convert’s mindset” he pulls up a letter written by NEHRU TO SUBHAS BOSE.
    Nehru asks Bose “How did he enjoy making love to PADMAJA NAIDU” nehru having SCORED before Bose.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are just confirming what I am saying. The people tend to treat Nehru and SC Bose as gods but they were not.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr Shan
    Mathai (a Kerala Syrian Christian like me, not that it matters) described the marriage ceremony of Indira – that all along they were planning a Parsi ceremony and somewhere in the last moment the decision was made to conduct the wedding in Hindu ceremoy — apparently Mrs Gandhi didnt want the world to know about this too —

    Anonymous Reply:

    Everone of us has something to hide.

    But this story makes us see Nehru in a different light. Oulook, a responsble magazine must have weighed the stroy a number of times before printing it.

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  • Anonymous

    @Binoy Hegde , I think you have very rightly identified the factors that may explain the “cow belt” laggardness. Also I remember reading somewhere WITH THE MUSLIM RULE HINDU SOCIETY WITHDREW AND RECOILED , IN CASE OF UP AND COW BELT IT WAS SUPERCOIL.BECAUSE THE MUSLIM RULE WAS PHYSICALLY SO CLOSE. Bengal had its king apparently BALLAL SEN originally hailed from Karnataka.
    Also the Mughal rule was through a vassal , not directly. IN SUBARNO CHOWDHURY had received jagir from mughal kings. ON THETHE MODERN DAY CALCUTTA
    Also these are LAND LOCKED states thus no interaction with WESTERN powers
    Literature is also a VERY BIG factor , that is why WOMEN are seen as sex objects,hindi language because of proximity with URDU never devoloped on its own.

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  • AshishC

    Prahlad,
    any of the comments you make of the software guys that can not apply in equal or more measure to the other economic/ intellectual pursuits Indians engage in?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish Sir,

    Come to think of it, our musicians, painters have not go their dues.

    This little gloss on software business has overshadowed many brilliant Indian minds elsewhere like cricket has done to other sports.

    Success can from many sources. But that may not be the true measure of the talent involved.

    [ I hope I am not sounding as if I against Indian Software professionals. I am definitely not degrading the success that India has achieved. I have no intention of doing that. ]

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    AshishC Reply:

    Prahlad,
    that was NOT my question and I think you know that you are wriggling out.
    One last time:
    Originally asked:
    “b) Have you had similar experiences interviewing candidates in any other field- masonry, farming etc where the figure is way below 95% for those who are unoriginal thinkers?”
    rephrased again as
    “any of the comments you make of the software guys that can not apply in equal or more measure to the other economic/ intellectual pursuits Indians engage in?”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish Sir,

    We are debating about the difference between the perception and the reality.

    While the general perception about farmers or people in similar occupation that they are illiterate and operate at a very low level of intelligence, they many a time have surprised me with their thoughts and high level of innovations.

    On the other hand when I expected so called brilliant software professionals to be operating at a higher level, they have disappointed me with their unwillingness to explore the possibilities.

    The farmers have suffered and been condemned to obscurity because the sector does not have brilliant managers to help them out while mediocre software professionals bask in reflected glory because of few brilliant top level managers and entrepreneurs.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @Prahlad Sir, AN ECHO OF WHAT YOU WROTE
    Elaborating on the spirit behind the workshop, Dr. Nagarajan reminded that in
    the early years of Green Revolution, the farmers were in possession of improved varieties
    of rice and wheat, but they were not knowing the package of practices for growing these
    varieties. Scientists demonstrated new package of practices to the farmers which made all
    the difference. After the success of “Green Revolution”, a stage came when the yield of
    crops stagnated and some adverse effects of excessive use of inputs became visible. He
    also cited some examples of the farmers adopting value addition technologies on their
    own, without guidance from the scientists. He narrated how some of the agricultural
    implements and machines were developed by the local artisans. This showed that the
    farmers were competent to develop innovative technologies for increasing their crop
    yield and income. Similarly, he cited the example of Kerala State, where, the local
    farmers developed a large number of multipurpose products from banana and its plant.
    He felt the need of documentation of such innovations so that indigenous knowledge
    could be blended with the scientific innovations
    read morewww.taas.in/documents/bs_farmersled.pdf

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Ashish

    Especially to media. They chose to highlight the porn issue on headlines on the day of the UP poll. Otherwise too many in the media are openly biased and give shallow reports.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    There must be a huge conspiracy ! Did Mr Vadra engineer it ?

    Let’s ask Ms Swaraj about her opinion.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Cmon Prahalad I have enough friends in the media to know what is happening and why.

    DO you thik this was the most important issue facing the country? The issue for UP polls? Remember there were other pressing issues. Like the 2G scam verdict by the SC. The blatant division of society by RahulG and Digvinash G
    along communal lines.

    Then just out of the blue… HT gave a full page Headline and story on the porn clip.

    Surprsingly when ND Tewari did a foursome in the Governer House and EXPLOITED our hapless, weak, dalit, female citizens using his money power, state power, and security….

    THEN THE HT WAS SILENT !!

    Vir Sanghvi even wrote a blog that Tewari’s privacy was violated on the HT blogsite !!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    Do you think Mr Tiwari’s episode is the most important issue today ? In last few days you have been talking about it.

    Shenoy Sir gave a plausible answer why the PORNGATE happened. And we enjoyed that.

    Since you know the reason please share with us.

    As you have many friends in media to tell you the reason, I am sure you will provide us the real reason.

    Once you came up with Rave Party alibi. What is this time ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am comparing attitudes in similar situations.

    Gopi our resident historian will remind us that history is important…

    Of course you would not like to be reminded of the blatant exploitation of the weak, the powerless and the hapless women by a man drunk on state power and equipped with all the security and blessed by the Centre…

    Imagine the tag the children of the wome will carry for the rest of theri lives; the impotent rage of their husbands…

    Govind Nihalani can make an Aakrosh type of film on this.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    We can either debate on specifics or things in general.

    Let’s not mix up.

    You have a favourite expression for that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Now, if the congress party loses many seats out of these 55, they will blame the three BJP ministers of Karnataka saying that they used porn to divert voters’ attention in UP!

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  • Anonymous

    PrahladkSir, YOU ARE 1000% TRUE.
    First an anecdote. My SEIKO watch was not working , the local shop in wales could not figure it out , they send it to HQ OF SEIKO in england.They wrote me back saying that there is a faulty part , they dont have it with them , BUT THEY HAVE CHECKED THEIR EUROPEN INVENTORY and sadly that part is not available .I came to calcutta , there is a shop in the park circus market area.
    they fixed it in two days (I SWEAR BY MY PARENTS NAME (I am an atheist, thus God would not do) THAT THE ABOVE ACCOUNT IS A FACT.
    In fact i have read in THE ECONOMIST(a magazine that has same place in Ashsh’s heart as Quoran has to Engrich) , how AWESTRUCK westerners have been at the marvel of these small techical people with so few tools at their disposal yet they unpick a NIKON CAMERA and fix it(Nikon camera example was mentioned in that economist article.Same I have found with CAR
    MECHANICS,I remember a muslim illiterate mechanic , they way he pronouced MCPHERSON STRUT(a Ford Invention, which acts like a shock absorber), yet he knew all about it

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan Sir,

    Same here with my smart phone.

    A barely 18 year old illiterate fixed my smart phone in no time that the service center was struggling with for days.

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  • Anonymous

    Folks let me give you a new thread, the killing of teacher by student in Chennai.
    INDIAN EDUCATION SYSTEM IS SHIT. Students do well DESPITE not BECAUSE of this system. It needs a COMPLETE OVERHAUL. First govt should form a CENTRE FOR COMPARATIVE EDUCATION , to study educationalsystem of different countries.
    I have ENORMOUS number of relatives as teachers in colleges and university.
    Barring one , I THINK MOST OF THEM ARE NOT FIT TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR AN EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION .
    Also I think we indians LOOK AT THE WORLD THROUGH THE COLONIAL WINDOW.
    I propose India govt asks german , french govt to open schools in india which should be replica of schools in france and germany. This will produce students who will bring different perspective and interpretation of the world.
    The FRENCH education system is quite different and I AM QUITE IMPRESSED.
    They have WEDNESDAY , full day ONLY FOR SPORTS.
    Also when they study History , they also study geography of that country its culture , by the same teacher and in the same sweep.
    They have created the BACCALAUREATTE system WHICH GIVES A MORE ROUNDED EDUCATION, and is now being followed in England.
    ALSO THE SUBJECTS, in India same bloody subjects
    in UK , music , hair dressing, hospitality even PLASTERING , PAINTING AND DECORATING all can fetch vocational diploma.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Chingulate,

    you said, “INDIAN EDUCATION SYSTEM IS SHIT.”

    Remember you have come from the same SHIT.

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  • Dr Mishra

    Indian vs British education”””””””””””””

    Indian education system is not shit, what a bizarre statement. The private schools in India produce students who conquer the world. Yes the govt sector is variable, and in the villages it may be rudimentary.

    However- I studied for 3 years in a Kendriya Vidyalaya in Allahabad and the school was fantastic, the motivation of the teachers better than the top private school I attended in Delhi later ( not DPS OF rIZWAN)

    And visited a very basic school in Bhatta village in Uttaranchal 3 years ago ( I donated 15,000 for its first toilet- thats how basic it was)- the intelligence of the top students and the poorly paid teachers blew me away

    SO THIS NEGATIVE INDIA BASHING MUST STOP

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    Dr Mishra Reply:

    90% of schools in UK are comprehensives, standards in education have plummeted over 30 years, drugs and teenage pregnancy and crime is on the rise- HARDLY A MODEL TO BE FOLLOWED BY INDIA !
    —————————————–
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1338514/Primary-schools-league-tables-1000-fail-11-year-olds-unable-read-write.html

    The 1,000 primary schools failing our children: 11-year-olds leave unable to read or write

    These children will start their secondary education unable to understand a simple piece of prose, write extended sentences using commas, recite the ten times table or add, subtract, multiply and divide in their heads
    ——————————————————————
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1174871/Council-introduce-weapons-screening-secondary-school.html

    But the seemingly relentless rise of the knife culture led to one council breaking new ground yesterday by bringing in a programme of weapons screening for all its 22 secondary schools

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Dr Mishra

    Interesting and pertinent. It is important to see the entire world and how things are happening there.

    That is what I was trying to tell Prahalad. See the entire world and then form the opinion. We may have a problem with rote learning. But many parts of the world are NOT learning properly at all.

    We have this huge thing of parents driving the kids mad by stressing education.

    Unfortunately where broken families have become the norm, nobody is inspriing the kids to study well in school or go for higher education.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    When you want to lead the World ( matter of fact for any leader ), please lead with an absolute sense of authority ( like Americans do ) than looking over shoulder how bad other guys are.

    Ravi Reply:

    Dr Mishar

    Please can you confirm, if the negative India Bashing is the act of Jihadi, Pakistani elements among us.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Ravi

    I knew you were reading everyline in this blog. Now you have got an opportunity to direct Dr Mishra’s comments against Prhalad and Shan.

    And then you will make an entry fighting under their cover… :)

    And give everyone your fantasy tales of rape everywhere… :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Till now we have had a lot of fun with the porn loving ministers and erection, rejection, dejection etc.

    Now the Islamic fundoo, will plaster this blog with his sob stories of 5000 daily dalit rapes by Brahmins (?).

    I think the other jihadi fundoo engrich has been rushed to Maldives by the ISI to create a congenial atmosphere for the jihadi take over of the Island state.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Half baked knowledge can only lead to above post.
    Indian students are MASSIVELY MOTIVATED AND DRIVEN(to get a green card) thus they produce good academic score , THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THEIR ABILITY FOR ORIGINAL THINKING.
    ALSO EXCEPTION PROVES THE RULE
    One or two high flyers doesn’t reflect the true picture
    Before Industrialisation there ws not much difference between countries , ALL BACKWARD
    Similarly 50yrs ago may be there was not that difference (Though reading Marloew’s biography I have to conclude the seeds of england’s rise as CREATOR OF MODERN WORLD was laid in the debating rooms of Oxford and Cambridge 500yrs ago)
    KEEP TO YOUR SNORKELING

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  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS
    ————————————-

    REASON FOR THREE KARNATAKA MINISTERS WATCHING PORN IN ASSEMBLY
    ———————————————————————————————————————–

    It seems the CM in a speech in the assembly asked his party MLAs “get ready for election”.

    These three ministers, who were a bit less attentive, heard it as an invitation ‘for erection’ and immediately started viewing the porno film. It is the media’s guess that they indeed had erections.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Sir,

    Brilliant !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good that the speaker did not say “Get ready for verification”

    Would have been a sad day in Parliamentary history in case the less attentive MLA’s would have heard it as Forn…….

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  • Anonymous

    Salman Khurshid mentioned in an election rally in UP that Sonia Gandhi cried after seeing the photographs of Batla encounter….

    Pathetic!

    On a positive side for India – whatever be the candidate’s flaws may be, our election process/machinery works very well (may be even better than the US system where there are always complaints from disenfranchised voters – who can forget the vote count issue 11 years ago when Bush was declared the winner). Gone are the days of booth capture, intimidation — also election related killings.

    More to be done; hopefully we will have a better system to vet the candidates.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    No tears for victims of 26/11
    And all the soldiers who gave theri lives

    No tears for Inspector MC Sharma
    WHo fouhgt the LeT with his life…

    And buckets of tears
    for terrorists who died

    Wha SOnia Wah !

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  • Anonymous

    Sonia Gandhi wept when she was shown pictures of Batla House Encounter by Salman Khurshid. Which pohotographs is Salman Khurshid talking about ? The only photograph which was put in the public domain by the Delhi Police was of Shaheed Inspector M C Sharma shot and slumped and being helped by his colleagues ? Did Salman Khusrshid have some other photographs? Who provided him ? What did those photographs show ? The Law Minister of the Union Council of Minsters , of which the Home Minister has put out a certain official version is not true ?
    Who should the country believe ? The Union Law Minister or Union Home Minister ?
    The PM of India shall of course say ” Mainu ki pata ? Madam ton puch ke dasange “

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    Ravi Reply:

    Mr Sexena

    I am sure you are aware that some people would interpret every act of Sonai in the following way.

    1. It is an attempt to Catholicise India

    2. It is in favour of Pakistan

    3. It is appeasement of Indian Mujhadeen.

    I can go on, but would let the BJP propagandists here add to the list.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Praveen

    Dont worry about this guy. He is the Gulam Nabi Fai of the blog department of the LeT who would make fun of the Indian soldiers who give the supreme sacrifice fitghting his fellow terrorists.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You don’t expect better from a person who cried for Osama.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi, vijay Kumar, praveen Saxenaji and also Prahlad Sir,

    this news item corresponds well with the Wikileaks item of Rahul Baba whispering in the US ambassador’s ears that LeT is not his worry and it is Hindu terror which worries him.

    Sonia Gandhi shedding tears for the dead terrorists show that congress leaders’ hearts beat for terror, they weep for terrorists, who get gunned down by the security forces.

    They also have dry eyes for daring, brave officers like Sharma.
    unka dil tab paththar ka ho jaata hai.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy

    Azamgarh is a hotbed of Muslim terrorism – in fact, your Bhatkal brothers have connections there.

    I am of the firm opinion some in Congress is in collusion with Islamic terrorists.

    Examples abound to indicate this. The latest example manifested in kerala a few months ago. Tomin Thachankery, a senior police officer (DIG) of the state, who was suspended by the previous leftist government for alleged terrorism related activities, was reinstated by the Congress/Muslim league led govt as one of their first official act after swearing in.

    This guy went to Dubai multiple times without obtaining the govt permission, he met with associates of Dawood or Dawood himself there, the Embassy sent reports about this to the Home Ministry, the state govt suspended him pending investigations..

    Some senior members of congress party are committing economic terrorism and national security terrorism. These guys cannot be nailed down because they are the fox manning the chicken coop. We do not have enough Subromonia Swamys, even if we have, the legal process is time consuming; the legal system is corrupt too.

    I wish generals like VK Singh take over the country instead of whining about his date of birth.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Then India will become hindustan , a mirror image of pakistan , no more a REPUBLIC OF INDIA.

    Anonymous Reply:

    India doesn’t have to become Hindustan.

    IT HAS BEEN HINDUSTAN FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL.

    engrich Reply:

    word hindu is arabic.can u show this word in any of ur holyscripture.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi we dont need army rule.

    We just need to throw this dynastic government which sees everything from the prism of getting a dynast onto the seat.

    Frankly we need strong adminstratora like Nitish Kumar or Modi who wont compromise with terror like the COngress does.

    This tear business is the ultimate insult to the Indian soldier.

    engrich Reply:

    Azamgarh is a hotbed of Muslim terrorism

    any proof.u are rss propagandist come here to speak lie spread rss anti-muslim propaganda.

    engrich Reply:

    Some senior members of congress party are committing economic terrorism
    most of the economic terrorists are brhmns.most corrupt and anti-people race of india.

    i hope gopi will agree with me.bjp is far and far more corrupt than congress.

    indian army is more corrupt than high caste congress and bjp.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Bang on target..I am convinced Congress is hand in gloves with Indian Mujahideens and LeT.

  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————
    ~ CHAMCHON MEIN JHAGDA !! breaking news !! COMMUNALISTS MEIN JHAGDA~
    —————————————————————————————————————————-

    iF I WERE THE OPPOSITION, I WOULD WIN THE ENTIRE 2014 ELECTIONS ON THESE TEARS OF SONIA GANDHI FOR TERRORISTS !!

    Seems that a fightt has broken between Salman Khurshid and Digvinash Singh!!

    Digviansh knows that the Congress can be Digvianshed by Salman’s statement. Read on…

    Sonia wept over Batla pics: Khurshid suggests, Digvijaya rejects
    Agencies
    February 10, 2012First Published: 13:42 IST(10/2/2012)
    Last Updated: 13:49 IST(10/2/2012)Share more…0 Comments Email print

    A combo photo of Salman Khurshid and Digvijaya SinghCongress general secrtary Digvijaya Singh on Friday rejected law minister Salman Khurshid’s claim that UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi cried after seeing pictures of Batla House encounter, reports said.
    “Sonia Gandhi did not cry, this is Salman Khurshid’s own words,” Digvijaya Singh was quoted as saying.

    Law minister Salman Khurshid on Thursday had said Congress president Sonia Gandhi had tears in her eyes when he showed her pictures of Batla House encounter.

    Khurshid was addressing a rally in Azamgarh on Thursday in Uttar Pradesh on the last day of campaigning of the second phase of UP polls.

    The 2008 Batla House encounter against suspected Indian Mujahideen (IM) terrorists took place in Jamia Nagar, Delhi, in which two suspected terrorist, Atif Amin and Mohamed Sajid were killed while two others Mohd Saif and Zeeshan were arrested, while one accused Ariz Khan managed to escape.

    The encounter in which encounter specialist and Delhi Police inspector Mohan Chand Sharma was killed, led to widespread protests from human rights bodies and political parties demanding judicial probe into it.

    The two dead terrorists Atif Amin and Mohamed Sajid belonged to Azamgarh. Since then Azamgarh has been a hot topic of discussion amongst political parties, specially during elections.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “The two dead terrorists Atif Amin and Mohamed Sajid belonged to Azamgarh. Since then Azamgarh has been a hot topic of discussion amongst political parties, specially during elections.”

    It (Azamgarh) has also become a shrine for the “seculars”. They do give a visit to this place before they set out on their campaigns for any elections where the Muslim’s vote matter.

    As Rajeev (or was it Shenoy) rightly said – Jihadis and Congressis are natural companions.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Ishwar

    I think we need to pinpoint the truth that all Azamgarh citizens would not be terrorists, probably a handful were. I think the Congress’ approach of making all Azamgarhis feel hurt at the death of the terrorists is a blatant ploy to isolate Muslims into a vote bank.

    The fact is in case a high number of terrorists come from a particular district then one has to examine the training schools and the seminaries which created them. Further this is an opportunity to create new educational avenues so that more youth do not get misled.

    Unfortunately for the shortsighted Congress, sab kuch chalta hai… as long as the Yuvraj gets a few more votes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Vijay

    Very sad that the act of terrorism has become a vehcle for wooing votes. Sadder that nobody talks about new schools in Azamgarh to create a different mindset.

    Ravi Reply:

    Vinoo

    The sad fact is that our Politics is focused around communal issues. In modern times I firmly blame the RSS/BJP combo for this right-ward shift. I am also aware that you would probably dis-agree with this and blame it in the congress. So be it.

    Once you accept that communal politics is the sad reality, and then individual communal incidents become of greater importance than stories of development (Schools, etc)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Being a jihadi fundoo yourself, you will naturally not blame the Muslim League or MJM or the terorists who caused the havoc on 26/11 or even the Batla House encounter.

    Why do you call it “a sad reality”? You should be happy your organisation’s efforts are baring very poisonous fruits.

  • Ravi

    TRAFFIC NEWS

    Long queues are developing on either side of MG road in Gurgaon, the traffic which normally flows through this mega artery at dare devil speeds of 10 Km per hour has come to a virtual standstill. People are lowering their car windows and asking each other भाई क्या हो गया है ? As each on of them is eager to get to the Haldi Ram, before the stocks run out.

    Reports coming from central Delhi are also reporting of a mega traffic jam as carrs are grid locked in a 2 mile radius of Bengali market. Modern Scholl has been closed for a day on account of staff and students alike not being able to make it to the school building. People have been seen asking each other, भाई क्या हो गया है ? People are aiming to get their box of छन्ना मुर्गी before the stocks run out.

    Situation near the Gol Dakkhana is not much different. Not only St Columbus, CJM, Sri Guru Harkrishan Public School, but even the Bangla Sahib is seeing much reduced congregation of devotees. Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims, and Nuns alike have been seen asking, भाई क्या हो गया है ?? Everyone is heading towards Standard Burfi in Ajmal Khan Road.

    Then all of a sudden came an announcement on the radio Mirchi, speaking in a drunken slur the entertainment correspondent Khaplodia slurps this news of galactic importance.

    Salman Khurshid and Digvinash Singh!! में झगडा हो गया है. Fortunes of Bombay Stock market and of the BJP party were resting on this schism.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Engrich Chela

    Feeble attempt at humour… nobody understands :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan the chingulate only pretends to have understood the “joke”, wisely not saying anything about the ‘contents’ being a joke or serious matter..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You do have a way with your words , don’t know how the east delhi citizen will react. His one half is bowled over by the prose , the other half cringing , at its contents.
    Though my feeling is IDIOT KHURSHID had undone all the advtages of an EARLY GOAL that CONGRESS SCORED AT KARNATAKA ASSEMBLY

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    Ravi Reply:

    I thank you Dr Shan

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————
    ~~ FELLOW BLOGGERS LeT OPERATIVE RAVI~~ goes into Engrich mode !! ~~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————–

    Fresh from a retraining camp at Muridke, Ravi has come back with his jehadi batteries recharged. We did not notice he was not around for a week but all the time he was in Muridke, learning new tricks from the old goat called Hafeez Saeed.

    TO DEFLECT ATTENTION FROM SONIA’S TEARS FOR TERRORISTS and none for the brave soldiers, ravi will now post 50 pages of garbage like his guru Engrich.

    They will disrupt this blog site with nonsense so that the real issue of the COngress’ bowing to jehadi terror is obfuscated.

    Shame on this terrorist ideologue called Ravi (false name) and his Gulam Nabi Fai type of behaviour…

    SHAME SHAME SHAME !!

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  • Anonymous

    A few days ago, I had quoted TOI: In Pakistan the army chief decides the government’s age and in India, the government decides the army chief’s age.

    It now looks like the government has already decided that the army chief, Ge.Singh was born on 10-05-1950.

    This is what he told the SC in his petition:

    Referring to the ministry’s orders of December 30 and earlier rejecting his case, the Army Chief has said that these orders have “conveniently ignored” his matriculation certificate, entire service record including entry into service, promotions and annual confidential reports.

    He has stated that being a highly decorated officer, he had received all his awards, decorations and promotions as per the date of birth being 10.5.1951.

    Sadly, the Supreme court has fallen for the government line. A VERY SAD DAY INDEED.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Sir,

    Do people receive awards and decorations based on YOB ?

    Did he accept any promotion based on 1950 as YOB ?

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  • Anonymous

    @ Prahalad

    Just for my information. A Minister– a law Minister at that– went public with the info that SoniaG wept when terrorists were killed at Batla house.

    Do you have any information on whether she had wept when Sandeep Unhikrishnan and Tukaram Omble died fighting terrorists?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    This was a bad statement. Period.

    [ Though many senior TV journalists have said there were many things fishy about that operation, I always refused to buy the argument without solid evidence. ]

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Prahlad

    Nothing has emerged to show that the killed were NOT terrorists. SO even if we go by the 1% hypothesis that it was a fake encounter, we need to remeber that the policemen have a right to kill in case they apprehed a terrorist who can kill them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mr Vinoo,

    Only uncomfortable piece is that Mr Sharma, the encounter specialist, cooly walked up to door to knock while knowing fully well that there were extremists holed up there.

    And he was not wearing any bullet proof jacket.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Prahlad

    That is very lame. Nobody i the government has said that those killed were NOT terrorists. Remember that this is a congress government which goes out of the way to appease terrorists. Many a time policemen walk in a group. If Sharma had been killed by his own man, the police wsould have demoted his fellow inspector. Chidambran too has time and again corrborated that it was a genuine encounter.

    Infact those killed have been nailed as IM terrorists as have those in the 17/7 Mumbai blasts. In both cases Congress has been in power. So why doesnt Shiela and Prithvi Chavan resign?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Prahlad Sir,

    from what we saw on TV of the 26/11 operation of the black cats descending on ropes from the helicopter, it looked to many of us as if fish is dangling from the tackle.

    Perhaps, this is why many are calling the whole operation “fishy”.

    But honestly, Prahlad Sir, I am convinced, that while the Batla house tears were “naatakiya”, and vote-bank induced, she had no tears, real or “naatakiya” to shed for the Unnikrishnans of 26/11. She wouldn’t have given a damn.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Prahlad

    What is worse? The Porn episode or the sad bad lauding of terrorists? Where and how will it be reported in the HT tomorrow? Guess how…

    Vinoo has made a very very valid point. Nobody not even Amar Singh Dahla and Arundhati Roy and Salman Khurshid have the guts to claim that the dead in Batla house were NOT terrorists.

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    engrich Reply:

    house were NOT terrorists.

    do you have any proof.many brhmn thugs were making billions,taking advantage of situation.in account of one bembay deshbhakt 5000 crores was found,name daya naik.

    engrich Reply:

    dead in Batla house were NOT terrorists.

    do u have any proof that those killed were terrorist.

    Anonymous Reply:

    A foot-in-the-mouth disease has afflicted Salman Khurshid.

    Idiotic statement to say the least.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    manohar —

    this is what happens when the whole focus is on appeasement and not on any growth or development.

    Even more dangerous and questionable is that they will use this inident for appeasement — shows that they will do anything to get a vote.

    So it is more than a foot-in-the-mouth case…. .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Everyone is playing the same game in, some may play more than the others in competing with others. It is all appeasement.

    Generally, Salman Khurshid is very careful with his words. Wonder what got over him? Desperation!

    engrich Reply:

    Generally, Salman Khurshid is very careful with his words. Wonder what got over him? Desperation

    bad situation of congress in up election.

    sharma was thug he was on killing spree for money.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Agree with you. The real serious problem is as you have mentioned that complete
    focus is on appeasement. Even if security of the country is compromised, our politicians
    will not give a damn if they think it will give them few votes.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dont hold him i too high an esteem. Once earlier he had got the gentle VC of Jamia mauled by his hoodlums becasue the gentle VC had suggested that Muslims should get over Salman Rushdie…

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    engrich Reply:

    terrorists were killed at Batla house

    any proof that they were terrorists one of them 18 yrs old gold medalist.they were unarmed,could br caught.sharma was a thug.good that god taught him lesson on spot.

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    engrich Reply:

    Sandeep Unhikrishnan and Tukaram Omble died fighting terrorists?
    security people are paid for occasions like this.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Vijay, Praveen, Gopi, Shenoy

    Sonia’s so called tears for the terrorists are highly shameful.

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  • Anonymous

    I think MC Sharma’s widow should stand opposite Sonia in the next elections

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    Ravi Reply:

    Great idea

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gr8 idea Vinoo.

    Two widows. One of them had a husband who died fighting terror and terrorists.

    The other one two had her husband killed by terrorists. Yet she does not have tears for her opponents husband but weeps bitterly on seeing hte dead terrorists…

    Quite an impactful story…

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    engrich Reply:

    Two widows. One of them had a husband who died fighting terror and terrorists.

    he died for bribe.sonia is greatest threat to thieves of india.she dont leave even her own party men.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Great idea…

    But Sonia will win the way things go in this country. That is how our “parliamenatry democracy” works!.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Sad

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    engrich Reply:

    sonia is great womn whil she is widow of a thug,who died while executing a fake encounter for money.
    sonia is great threat to thives of india.

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  • Anonymous

    Shift in electoral strategy of the Congress in UP?
    Digvijay Singh rejects the statement of Salman Khurshid on Batla House. Is the Congress giving up on the Muslim vote? Has the upper caste Hindu and the non-Yadav Backward vote become more important for the Congress in UP now ? Something is happenening there which prompted Digvijay to refute Salman Khurshid. Pl read with Jaiswal’s statement that Rahul shall remote- control UP.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Praveen

    This single statement can destroy COngress in 2014. Let Salman Khurshid say that Digvijay is lying.

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  • Anonymous

    Got to leave for a suited booted meeting where I need to speak for 30 minutes.

    @ Prahlad .

    Dont u think a good PR agency can rip apart the COngress on this single statement. I know BJP does not have the ability

    @ Shenoy

    U r Right

    @ Praveen

    These guys have seen that this single statement can get them into deep trouble with most countrymen who are patriotic.

    @ Gopi

    Thx for the input on the Keral situation…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    Hope you got the deal (or did some Congressi snatch it?)

    Congress has to be defeated at polls. Lets see what UP brings. Indications are that they will do better than last time – all depend on how much more. Also how well SP does..

    Everything is on a plate for BJP.. But it looks like they do not know how to use their hands and somebody has to feed them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx for the wishes, gopi.

    Thankfully it was not about politics!

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  • Anonymous

    Dr.Mishra,

    you said, “90% of schools in UK are comprehensives, standards in education have plummeted over 30 years, drugs and teenage pregnancy and crime is on the rise- HARDLY A MODEL TO BE FOLLOWED BY INDIA!”

    Here is proof of India not needing any examples from UK:

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely brilliant , in USA it would have fetched10/10 , but INDIA is full of bumkins like Mishra, thus you see children stabbing their teachers

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  • Anonymous

    New signboard outside Karnataka Assembly…

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  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS……..BREAKING NEWS
    ========—————-=========================

    Salman Khurshid tells only half the story.

    SONIA GANDHI SHEDS TEARS SEEING THE PHOTOS OF SLAIN TERRORISTS.
    THIS IS ONLY HALF THE STORY
    ===================================———————====================

    HERE IS THE UNTOLD STORY:

    WHILE CRYING (COPIOUSLY), SHE ALSO SANG THE FOLLOWING SONG:

    tum kyaa jaano, tumharI yaad mein
    hum kitanaa roye, hum kitanaa roye,
    rain guzaari taare gin gin
    rain guzaari taare gin gin
    chain se jab ye BJP wale soye
    hum kitanaa roye

    kitane baadal ghire gagan mein,
    ghirake phir naa barase,
    pyaas bujhaa kar dil hi dil mein
    kitanaa tadpe tarase
    dard hamaraa dil jaane yaa
    dard hamaara dil jaane yaa
    nainaa khoye, khoye
    hum kitanaa roye

    kitani kaliyaan khilin Azamgarh mein
    khilake phir murajhaa gayin
    aas dilaa kar bhole man ko
    baar, baar samajhaa gayin
    roke javaani kaati jisne
    roke javaani kaati jisne
    nainaa roye, roye,
    hum kitanaa roye

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    engrich Reply:

    this was fake e ncounter by a thug who was killed by mistake from the bullet of his constable.bhagwan ke ghar deir ahi andher nahin hai.his accounts must be check and confiscated if found more than his known income.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    her tears have inspried the keats of Lashkar-e-toiba, Ravi, to bring tears of poetic torture of all who read his poem!

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  • Ravi

    I don’t like Fundos

    Radio Mirchi

    The perpetually inebriated entertainment correspondent Mr Khaplodia was heard singing this song.

    The silicon chip inside my head
    Gets switched to overload.
    And nobody’s gonna go to shakha today,
    I’m going to make them stay at home.
    And Advani doesn’t understand it,
    He always said RSS was as good as gold.
    And he can see no reason
    ‘Cause there are no reasons
    What reason do you need to be shown?

    Tell me why?
    I do like Fundo’s.
    Tell me why?
    I do like Fundos.
    Tell me why?
    I do like Fundos.
    I want to shoot
    The whole Jamat down.

    The BLOG machine is kept so clean
    As it types to a waiting world.
    And Gadhkari feels so shocked,
    BJP’s world is rocked,
    And their thoughts turn to
    Their own little soldier.
    Sweet 36 is so peachy keen,
    No, it ain’t so neat to admit defeat.
    They can see no reasons
    ‘Cause there are no reasons
    What reason do you need to be shown?

    Tell me why?
    I do like Fundo’s.
    Tell me why?
    I do like Fundos.
    Tell me why?
    I do like Fundos.
    I want to shoot
    The whole Jamat down.

    All the praying’s stopped in the road now
    He wants to play with his driver for a while.
    And shakha’s out early and soon we’ll be learning
    And the lesson today is how to kill.
    And then the conch shell crackles,
    And the Sangh Chalak crackles,
    With the problems and the how’s and why’s.
    And he can see no reasons
    ‘Cause there are no reasons
    What reason do you need to die?

    Tell me why?
    I do like Fundo’s.
    Tell me why?
    I do like Fundos.
    Tell me why?
    I do like Fundos.
    I want to shoot
    The whole Jamat down.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathetic!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Lame..Pakistanis are very bad at humour.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    —————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~ after Herbie goes bananas ~~ MGM RELEASES RAVI GOES BONKERS !!
    ——————————————————————————————————————

    MGM films released “herbie goes bananas along time back and I saw it on video as a kid.

    And today it has released “RAVI GOES BONKERS !!!”

    Starring the Keats of Lashkar-e- Toiba, superjehadi double agent, double wife of Hafeez Saeed, Mr Ravi !!!

    This keats of LeT, after a training camp in Muridke has unleasehed a pathetic effort which can be read above.!!

    Already reviewed as “Lame” and “pathetic”, this third rate effort has just shown the low standard of education LeT jehadis suffer from !!

    Ravi, this is so bloody UN-Funny that I jsut cried with laughter !!!

    Seems that the charas from Chitral, Pakistan has really made u bonkers…

    HA JA AHAAA HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Anonymous

    All,

    This Rahul Kollur, Commerce Secretary, looks like a guy with balls. I hope he is not silenced by higher ups. I agree with him that economic opportunities with Iran should be explored/leveraged when others are backing away under US pressure.

    Here is today’s NYT coverage

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/10/world/middleeast/india-sees-economic-opportunities-in-iran.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, this may be a congressi ploy to woo Muslim votes!,

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  • Anonymous

    Historic ‘India Show’ to be unveiled in Lahore on Saturday

    http://www.thehindu.com/business/article2879678.ece

    Excerpt

    In another first, it will be the first bilateral visit by an Indian Commerce and Industry Minister to Pakistan. Commerce and Minister Anand Sharma will walk into the Pakistan territory through the Attari-Wagah border on February 13 to take part in the India Show celebrations and also hold bilateral talks with Mr. Fahim to discuss ways and means to increase the trade between the two nations, remove restrictions on trade and movement of people and put in place a liberal visa regime to enable more people to people exchange.

    —————–

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  • Anonymous

    After Sonia’s wailing for Batla terrorists episode, it is clear that Congress is on the side of Islamic terrorists.

    Same can be seen on this blog too, Congressi and Jihadis have formed a team and work in tandem.

    All this NIA’s case about Hindu terror is fabrication to placate violent muslim community. I think Congress wants 2002 repeated all over India. The muslims should understand Congress design and keep away from this anti-national party else pay a heavy price.

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~ A FUNNY COUNTRY~~ where politicIans love terrorists~~ AND USE THEM~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————–

    The Congress policy of driving a wedge between Hindus and Muslims needs to be deomolished but it never will be…

    Now on TV I can see Renuka Choudhry mockingly show that Sonia’s tears were fake and just a drama.

    Arre yeh nakli aansoon the’ kya?

    While in another video clip, Salman Khurshid reveals that “Sonia ji bahut bhavuk ho gayi aur encounter ki phot dekh kar phoot phoot kar ro padi…”

    Everything is driven by vote by dividing India. Even Sonia’s tears..

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  • Anonymous

    Minister Jaiswal has claimed that Rahul will control UP thru remote. He is basically confirming Sonia too controls MMS thru remote.

    What a shame!!!

    But Congressi-Jihadis as usual will give it a spin.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Rajeev , Ashish and Prahlad

    The Indian software story will finally die with the Congress unleashing the ED and Police after Google and Yahoo.

    We may keep debating the quality of Indian software developers but we cannot deny that many of the software majors came here becasue of mass availaibilty of software professionals and also becasue senior managers in those companies had some India link.

    Earlier to this we lost big ticket projects becasue of apathy.

    Like Intel which wanted to come here but decided on China because of a Minister putting in some personal conditions.

    And Motorola which was made to wait by policy makers in contrst to China where it was wooed.

    But our house of cards may come tumbling down in case we start harassing these companies as the current government seems to be doing to save the Royal family. Hauling Google to High court and unleashign the enforcement department after Yahoo would make them as enthusiastic about remaining in India as would fly in your soup keep u interested in the food…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Google, Yahoo, facebook, Amazon, microsoft and other new and emerging silicon valley companies will be the ones defining the new platforms for ecommerce, communication, and many aspects of day-to-day lives. It will be foolish, almost like cutting off the tree branch youa re sitting on, to drive them away…. actually beggars (even with the current GDP levels) cannt be choosers.. IS the govt going to replace the lost jobs/GDP if they leave?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    The funny part is that the Congress has propped up some of its litigationist lawyers as a front to harass these companies ino submission.

    Would reaaly really be sad in case these companies start turning away from India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    If you think these big companies can submit themselves in just one hearing, then they deserve it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You would have noticed that my comment has already been chopped by the censor. In the end honest–non communal, no vulagar debate is what big brothers target…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay kumar Khanna, mate, after Naqshbandi , it is your turn to be educated.
    THE BIGGEST IMPEDIMENT TO FOREIGN INVESTMENT IS THE LABOUR LAWS AND THE SELF SERVING ECO BRIGADE.
    As Gopi Thomas reiterates the old adage
    BEGGARS CANT BE CHOOSERS
    Though supreme court ruling in favour of Vodafone should send out positive signals.As for Google Yahoo , no point in blaming the court , IT IS THE SCUM SIBAL WHO HAD BROUGHT IN THOSE NAZI LAWS ON IT POLICING

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,
    I must say, you are one deluded Bengali. I educated you but then you come back for more education.

    Do you even know what is Naqshbandi? You are giving bad name to all Bengalis.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I didn’t till you made me interested and directed to all those sites , Ram kishen mohammad naqshbandi ,or Tao budha husain naqshbandi. HOWEVER I AM READY TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM ,PLEASE FEEL FREE TO INFORM.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good, I could help you reform.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I have my education on this right from the horses mouth. A deputy CEO of a software giant — who is learning to get his serve right from me — and who feels that California is finding all these problems in India a bit boring and doesnt want their work under scrutiny.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    Please ask your friend, the deputy CEO, if he has any HR and Administrative policies in his organisation. And if any, for what reasons. Also please scrutinise thos policies and share with us how un-restrictive those policies are.

    Time you differentiated between “censorship” and “moderation”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,
    It is temporary setback. Everything will be back to normal once Congress is ousted at the centre.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    Indian software story has nothing to with the court restraining search engines or social networks.

    From software point of view, there will be another effort to fine tune the engine on localisation – not just the translation or language but a dedicated dictionary on the local etiquette and probably personalities would be built.

    Who knows the text editor on the browser would start filtering out bad desi words as you type in praise of your opposition !

    Actually quite exciting.

    Nothing can filter out bad languages completely. But the Social Networks and search engines can clean up 90% of foul contents automatically.

    It does not matter what these software companies say. Internally, they are all getting ready for this localization process. Facebook announced this new localization policy recently and it was not India centric.

    Besides, when you do business, you need to maintain the books of accounts no matter how unnecessary. Similarly, if these companies profit from user-created contents, then they must fine tune their business processes to have rational content on their site.

    Please don’t go ballastic about your freedom of expression etc. Even here our friends tried to ban some people because of certain type of content.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dont be so sanguine. I know a few senior executies and software professionals in the top notch companies…via my tennis court and the houses my guys built for them. A few say that the news from the headquarters in US is wait and watch. They are sure that thier companies like to work unhindered as they develop for the entire world and not just India

    China with many advantages over us in terms of infrastructure has still not become a major development centre for say Adobe and accenture for this reason. Censorship is anthema to all. Google which still maintains a China operation will only have a China specific operation there.

    For the short sighted Sibal and the Congress trolls this distinction WILL BE BEYOND COMPRHENSION.

    Do you know why Malaysia, Dubai and China never became huge platform cetres despite the facilities they offer at their software centre….? Think of the distinction and u will get the answer.

    For Congress as long as facebook and Google are okay as long as they praise their vote bank and the Nehru khandaan.

    And frankly all these comapanis only started trickling in under the free and fair regimes prior to the current one before last two years that is before Digvinash and Chotta baba came up.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Sir,

    Could you please be specific ?

    Content moderation is a World wide phenomenon and natural to any maturing industry.

    What exactly are you cribbing about?

    You co-led a big group here to ban some people because you did not like the content they submitted.

    Please do not mix up.

    If you want to talk about the technical impossibility of content moderation then let us talk about that. Or, impact of restriction on the growth of software industry. Or, the political implication. Or, ….. But let’s be specific what you really want to debate and discuss.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Prahlad Sir,

    You may win a few brownie points here. And even win the debate… in the eyes of many– I am a nincompoop in debating skills :)

    But…

    I am just telling you a ground truth and the fear of many a concerned soul.

    The internet follows its own censorfree logic. It has given us the Arab street and in contrazst also the videos of AlQueeda. As also the postings of Engrich ( :) )

    It has given us assange and it has given us LeT operators and Mdhuri gupta planning against India.

    We can monitor and try to bobbit the LeT thru the net.

    But in case we demolish the entire foundation for net freedoms for politcal purposes…. we will be losers . Now you will debate this.

    But we will certainly drive a few software majors from this country.

  • Anonymous

    Calling Shoeb, Pervez, Riswan and Ravi
    _______________________________________________
    need honest answer, what your friends and relatives say abt BATLA house encounter, blog wants inside story. Pl you talk openly
    cingulate of cockroach Dr Shan, suddenly you are all over blog like meesles rash, and then bound to say something totally idiotic about glowing british secondary school education . You donkey, ALL MY RELATIVES HAVE SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES TO ENSURE THAT OUR KIDS ARE THE five percent who go to private schools. Even labour party leaders who are against pvt education like Diane Abbot and Baroness Uddin send their son to prestigious Forest school.
    Imbecile dr shan, always white lingam sucking abt Marlowe shit

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    Ravi Reply:

    Balwinder here is my take on this sad event

    Due to long standing Congress policy of appeasement towards Muslims as well as its promise of 99.9% reservation for Muslims policy, a number of Hindus have taken to CONVERSION.

    Five such neo converts while recovering from their conversion surgery – the Islamic version of Bobbitting – in a multi-storied house in Battala in Punjab, were receiving their Congressi friends.

    These Congressi’s came dressed in Police Uniforms, in order to make themselves out as honest patriotic and un-corruptible BJP wallahs. These Fake Policemen, shot the neo-converts and they all died. No one absconded to Dubai in a made of Da Wood Dhow, back to their Arabic ancestral lands.

    Much speculation was in the press as to why the Real Congressi’s, dressed up as FAKE BJP Policemen, shot members of their much appeased community. All this speculation is completely wrong.

    The real reason is, that both Papa’s of Sonia – one that is Fascist and the other one who dresses in flamboyant frocks and lives in the Vatican City, had ordered her to carry out this task as a part of Catholisation of India.

    The operation went wrong because Salman Khurshid and Digvinash Singh!! में झगडा हो गया है

    This boring as a stale ****, feeble attempt at humour comes from a man whose three children did very well in the Comprehensive State Education system in Muridke.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “Five such neo converts while recovering from their conversion surgery – the Islamic version of Bobbitting – in a multi-storied house in Battala in Punjab, were receiving their Congressi friends.”

    while this “operation” was going on, you, the fake Hindu/Sardar must have been singing “Raghupati Raghava Rajaram
    ……………………….sub ko sunnat de bhagwan”.

    Jihadi fundoo, your attempts at comedy is really pathetic.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolute Dhakkan humour..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nice one.
    It is fun to watch the delirious behavior here of those drunk on the fundoo “hocus-pocus” potion.
    p.s.: Let the abuse begin.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    you seem to be having a great sense of humour. And fake Ravi must have regaled you with his “sunnat operation” joke.

    Anonymous Reply:

    For them, their own ‘jokes’ and ‘barbs’ become the ‘greatest’ jokes ever cracked. What else would you expect from them? When their (un)holy ‘cows and bulls’ are targeted, then …………….

    They arrogantly hallucinate that they are the only ones on this planet with a ‘fine sense of humour’, others have ….

    Abuse and label fabrication is part of their daily diet, if not partaken, their ’sensitive’ digestive systems start grumbling for days, which would surely cause embarrassment what with people and birds around.

    Ravi Reply:

    Mahesh

    Many thanks. I think I his all the targets I aimed at.

    Who cares about abuse, बच्चे हैं/

    Anonymous Reply:

    Two full time and one part time abusers/label fabricators around. Bad habits die hard.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely UNFUNNY !!

    Laboured prose destined to torture readers !

    You need to stand in ur dole que and then treat yourself to wine.

    Then the real Keats of the LeT inside you would speak…

    And dont tell uncle hafeez that u r guzzling ale..
    Hafeez will bobbit you
    And ISI will throw u in jail !!

    HAHAH HAHAHH!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Balls the OLD **** , with your puny size brain , and now that after your prostate operation , you are ALL QUIET ON THE PUBIC FRONT , understandably you have gone potty.
    PRIVATE SCHOOL OR NOT , KABUTERBAJI AND WHITE POWDER IS THE MAINSTAY OF YOUR DHANDHA.
    Incidentally today saw absolutely RAW from the villages of punjab in the town centre. I was horrified to think some BALLS BHONDHU must have trafficked them in , AND NOW FARM THEM OUT TO WORK AS SLAVES IN THE FARMS OF KENT AND OTHER SHOPS RUN BY THE LIKES OF BALLS BHONDHU

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Oh yes Baroness Uddin , BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER.
    SHE IS A BANGLADESHI , SPEAKS BROKEN ENGLISH USED TO BE SOCIAL WORKER , USED TO LIVE IN COUNCIL HOUSE
    She is CROOK was caught fiddling expenses , was thrown out of Lords for few months, there was call for stripping her of peerage , which the ISLAM vote bank pleasing labour party bestowed

    Expenses: police urged to reopen prosecution into Baroness Uddin
    Police have been urged to reopen a prosecution into the expenses cheat peer who was this week suspended from the House of Lords after illegitimately claiming £125,000 in parliamentary allowance
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk › News › News Topics › MPs’ expenses
    NOW FOLKS YOU KNOW WHY CHALLA WORSHIPS THIS BANGLADESHI CROOK, BECAUSE HE IS ALSO IN THE SAME BUSINESS

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Balwinder-

    Balwinder, I believe Muslims in the North may have a different view/understanding from the Muslims in the South; I am also sure there will be divergence of opinion between educated/uneducated, young/old etc.

    I believe it was a real encounter, nothing fake about it.

    My father was in Coimbatore when the 1998 Coimbatore blast, aimed at Advani, occurred. Many people died in that. My father luckily escaped, but five of his business friends (Muslims and Hindus) died in that. So, in a sense, he (and our family) are victims of the psychological scars of terrorism.

    The tragedy of India is that our political leaders do not take the terrorist threat – before and after – seriously. National security is compromised. Soothing and appeasing statements substitute for bold decisive actions. Many politicians (Congress and others) are worried about block votes. But our belief is that it is a false, misguided, backfiring notion. Average Muslim citizen is no different from any other citizen – he wants a safe place to bring up his children. He wants the government to be bold and tough regarding terrorism. He is not going to be upset if the guilty are hounded and punished.

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    engrich Reply:

    advani is chamoleon.he is sikh not a hindu.he was fooling and hurting india by running ram mandir movement.bomb might have been planted by parivar to get hold of high caste hindu votes..muslims will never plant bomb as they suffer the wrath.national politics is in favour of muslims while parochial and communal politics favours parivar,as they have nothing else to offer to masses of india.so they are shuttling between monastaries and ministries.

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    engrich Reply:

    batala house encounter was fake brhns of ats were doing this regularly for money.one of the victim was connected with hawala bussines.remaining were young intelltgent promising boys.30 crores was the fees , bombay ats was charging.they had no arms so they could be arrested.like ishrat jahan case.after ak narayan,a palght brhmn is removed from the the post of national security advisor,no jehadi has enterd either in elhi or inahmadabad.

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  • Anonymous

    How many tears did Sonia shed for Batla Shaheeds?
    According to Sibal ZERO tears..
    According to Sonia herself ‘272′ tears for SURE
    According to MMS ‘Mainu Ki Pata’
    According to Diggi ‘Tears were planted by RSS’

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    engrich Reply:

    sonia is great threat to beshbhakts who are cuaght daily in financial scams.only yesterday one in ujjain(ram rajya) with note counting machine.25 crore cash.deshbhakt was getting 25000 salary.sonia is really great in catching thieves.

    while awnsering dont bring prophet mohammed(pbuh)otherwise i will fk ur mother.

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  • Anonymous

    This is for idiot Chingulate Shaan, the ’shwethalingapremi”

    Received from a facebook friend:

    We all love Sardar jokes. But do you know that Sikhs are one of the hardest working, prosperous and diversified communities in the world!

    The following is a real incident which I wish to share with you. It has had a deep impact on my thinking.

    During the last vacation, a few friends came to Delhi . They rented a taxi for local sight-seeing. The driver was an old Sardar and boys being boys, these pals began cracking Sardarji jokes, just to tease the old man. But to their surprise, the fellow remained unperturbed..

    At the end of the sight-seeing, they paid the cab hire charges. The Sardar returned the change, but he gave each one of them one rupee extra and said,”Sons, since morning you have been telling Sardarji jokes. I listened to them all and let me tell you, some of them were in bad taste. Still, I don’t mind ‘coz I know that you are young blood and are yet to see the world. But I have one request. I am giving you one rupee each. Give it to the first Sardar beggar that you come across in this or any other city !!!”

    My friend continued, “That one rupee coin is still with me. I couldn’t find a single Sardar begging anywhere.”

    MORAL:
    The secret behind their universal success is their willingness to do any job with utmost dedication and pride. A Sardar will drive a truck or set up a roadside garage or a dhaba, run a fruit juice stall, take up small time carpentry, … but he will never beg on the streets

    Because Sikhs contribute:

    * 33% of total income tax
    * 67% of total charities
    * 45% of Indian Army

    * 59,000++ Gurudwaras serve LANGAR to 5,900,000+ people everyday!

    & All this when THEY make only 1.4% of the total INDIAN POPULATION.

    Because Sikhs contribute:

    * 33% of total income tax
    * 67% of total charities
    * 45% of Indian Army

    * 59,000++ Gurudwaras serve LANGAR to 5,900,000+ people everyday!

    & All this when THEY make only 1.4% of the total INDIAN POPULATION.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This one for SIKHLINGAM chosuk, the EX bank looter , who was thrown out of the bank ,BECAUSE HE WOULD NOT RELEASE ANY LOAN WITHOUT A CUT
    In 1985, Sikh terrorists bombed an Air India flight from Canada to India, killing all 329 people on board Air India Flight 182. Presumably the man investigating Konkan bank manger’s case was on that plane , THUS HE IS SO GRATEFUL TO THE SIKH TERRORISTS
    As much contributing to army, they are also contributing to SHAME that law abiding indians have to endure in western countries, here is the reason
    Punjab has become the hub of the 12,000 crore rupees human trafficking racket (Dogra, 2007:3). It is estimated that 10,000 to 20,000 Punjabis contribute to this flourishing business each year by paying anything between Rs. 2.5 lakh to Rs. 10 lakh each on being promised greener pastures abroad. The favoured destinations are mainly the USA, Canada, Australia, England, Italy and Greece (Dogra, 2007:3).
    In Punjabi language, human trafficking is termed as „kabootarbaazi‟, traffickers as „kabootarbaaz‟ and victims as „kabootars‟. As trafficking in human beings is one of hottest issues in Punjab, dominating electronic and print media and the policy formulation process of the state
    Moreover, Punjabis have not even hesitated to put their lives and moral values at the stake while pursuing risky and immoral methods. For example, two brothers from Hoshiarpur district squeezed themselves in a cavity in the undercarriage of the aircraft meant for the wheels.One of them was dropped dead when the plane landed and the other made it through the perilous journey to the United Kingdom, that too in a serious condition (Randhawa, 2007:7).
    THOUGH THIS MAY THE MAIN REASON WHY KONKAN LOOTERA BANK MANAGER FEELS SO CLOSE TO SARDARS
    Similarly, putting the moral and cultural values aside, after the legal recognition of gay marriages in the United Kingdom in 2006, many Punjabis applied though various travel agents, exploring the possibility of going abroad after marrying someone of their own sex.

    http://www.global.ucsb.edu/punjab/journal/v16_1/…/kumar_abstract.pdf

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    Anonymous Reply:

    shenoybv is HOMO , case closed

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    Anonymous Reply:

    and you, chingulate are homophobic.

    your case is open from the back.

    shekhar gandotra Reply:

    case open from back is funny!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Just like your surname GANDO

    Anonymous Reply:

    Twisted Brain Chingulate,

    Every Sardar or sardarini who leaves the shores of the motherland is a healthy, able-bodied person, who, more than likely, proves to be human assets in the country they migrate to under whatever mode.

    And the white nations have centuries of history of exploitation of Indians and hence they are not doing any favour to Indians if they provide jobs/livelihood to these immigrants.

    As against this immigration, look at your own state.

    Together with Assam you have allowed 5 crore Bangladeshis to inflitrate, throwing the entire country’s economy into reverse gear.

    These infiltrators are emaciated, sick, illiterate and are dregs who are rejects even inside Bangladesh. India’s own food securiry is terribly affected by these infiltrators, who also destroy our cities like Delhi and Kolkatta, besides Mumbai.

    They also actively collaborate with the LeT to create terrorist violence inside the country.

    Please write something about your “guests” from your eastern neighbour.

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    shekhar gandotra Reply:

    very nice sir.

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  • Anonymous

    OPERATION KAMAL KI KAKDI
    ——====—–=====——————

    FILM: KARNATAKA’S OWN 3 IDIOTS

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    Anonymous Reply:

    .Also for the bloggers SPOT ShenoyBV in the picture

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    Ravi Reply:

    They are his 3 Avatars

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan & Ravi

    Speechless. Who me? No. Read on.

    How apt they are. Avatars in what else – drums. Drum-beating made easy.

    Anonymous Reply:

    these are the ministers who thought with their dicks.

    I always use my brain to do the thinking. Therefore, you will not find me in he picture.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    your dick is your brain , there is no other place to look for

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    Pretty funny!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree, really funny, but the joke is on ………….

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  • Anonymous

    Analysis: U.P. may head for instability if Congress and BJP sit in the Opposition

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2876401.ece

    Excerpts

    A senior Congress functionary, putting the statements by the Congress president and her son in context, explained to The Hindu why the party would prefer to live in uncertainty at the Centre rather than take a step in U.P. that would negate whatever it might achieve in this election. “For the Congress, this is a high stakes election, with the role Rahulji has played in it. The feeling in the party is that if the Congress does not win back U.P., it cannot move forward,” he said, adding, “Rahulji is young — he has 10 to 15 years to build back the party again in U.P. He has made it clear that regardless of the result he will continue to work in the State. So, if in the meanwhile, we tie up with the SP or any other party, as we have done in the past, we will be back to square one. We would squander whatever gains we make in these elections.”

    ———-

    Interestingly, the BJP’s declared reasons for not wishing to tie up with the BSP under any circumstances are similar to that of the Congress. Senior BJP leaders in U.P., Kalraj Mishra, Satyadeo Singh, Kesarinath Tripathi and Yogi Adityanath all separately told The Hindu that their association with the BSP in the past had cost the party dearly: now that the party was beginning to gradually recover in the State, it wanted to continue along that path as its sights were set not on 2012, but on the general elections in 2014.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Central rule may be good for UP. Een though we have a bad, biased centre. The corruption will be limited to bureaucrats and it will come down to 30%.

    Out of Rs 100 of kickbacks… politicians rake in Rs 70.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Central rule is no answer. Now, central rule is an option in the rarest if the rare cases.

    May be there will another election in May/June.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What is the maximim lenght of central rule these days?

    Best course would be to have central rule. Then divide UP into four parts getting all parties to be part of state re-organisation. Then hold elections.

    Anonymous Reply:

    First of all Central rule needs 2/3rd (if I am not mistaken) voting in the parliament, it cannot be just imposed by the central government at its whims and fancies (as it used to happen earlier). Given the current fractured status in the parliament – may not be possible.

    Central rule is for a period of six months at a time. In the meantime, elections have to be called to break the logjam.

    Division of UP, it is not something that can be done in a jiffy. Then there are similar demands from other parts of the country. All will have to be looked into, not UP alone.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar-

    My advice to both Congress and BJP will be to sit out.

    I think Samajwadi Party may be affected negatively because Maulayam projecting his son as the next king. Mayawati may score some plus because she does not have a son or daughter being projected as the next in line.

    The pollling was quite low.

    Let us see how it all works out

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Both the Congress and the BJP have to regain their spaces and not subjected to pulls and pressures from the local outfits. But then both of them have to change their approach drastically. They are indulging in the same low level politics of the regional parties.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “low level politics of regional parties”….??????

    Many regional parties are quite principled and good operators.

    Anonymous Reply:

    low level! – The focus is on the local concerns (nothing wrong per se), but then most of them lose sight of the national perspective and that is the problem.

    engrich Reply:

    i agree with u.

  • Anonymous

    Ravi take this advice from old man who has seen lot of life- HUMOUR IS NOT YR STRONG POINT, I am vaguely fond of you despite yr twisted thoughts, and to watch your very sad attempts at humour last 2 days, my advise to you is simple- DONT. Leave humour to Shenoy, Mohun and Sardar Balwinder Singh, Amritsarwaaley
    Saxenaji, big thanks for first posting about Salman Khurshid’s despicable comments. I finally saw the video and finally saw the Azamgarh students protesting about labelling their town aatankgarh. AND I SAW SOMETHING THAT NO ONE ON BLOG HAS SEEN- I SAW HURT, never mind that muslims of Azamgarh blindly labelled encounter as flase, I saw their pride hurt at all beibg labelled terrorists.
    IN THAT HURT I SAW PATRIOTISM- they did not sat that Abu Salem was good man or that bHATKAL of Indian mujahed was a hero, they said we are good people.

    I AM SHOKED THAT NO ONE IN INDIA OR ON THIS BLOG SAW THAT HURT FEELING OF AZAMGARHI was wounded pride. Sad that Congressi is twisting it for their own gain. Look at Ravi, when I pierced straight to his heart about how his quom felt about Batla house, even he was hurt and reacted bizarrely. But then that is ravi

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    Ravi Reply:

    Balwinder

    I am sure you know the difference between the SUN and Radio 4.

    I will say no more.

    Do let people know, what you believe is my quom. There are many new people here who may not know what you believe is my quoum and upon what rests that belief of yours.

    To you every view is like a Rorschach Ink Blob, you see in it, what you want to see.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    HE HE HUMOUR as fun as a dog’s ****

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    Ravi Reply:

    Dr Shan

    He has pierced straight through my heart, and from there he managed to injure my entire quom.

    You are a surgeon, can you please stitch it up again, his quom will benefit from such repair work.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He needs SILICON IMPLANTS at his pucic end , for it is so hopeless now PED 5 inhibitors at its highest dose doesn’t work , nor do caverject , or Rubber bands

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right Balwinder ! Ravi should give this up> I have appealed to him… in case you scroll up. We all should retrain him for a more honorable vocation.

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    engrich Reply:

    his quom felt about Batla house, even he was hurt

    our ats is like young girl who got habit of easy money through prostitution.
    but indian doctors are worst they take heavy bribe from pharmacutical companies and enjoy their life instead of helping the patience.
    in my area there is saying GAR MEIN DAKOO GHUS AYEGA TO CHAR BARTAN CHOOD DEGA,DOCTOR GHUS AYE TO WO BHI CHODEGA.

    in ramrajya of madhya pardesh one is caught with note counting machine and 25crore cash.how many he would have killed,100 let cannot kill.

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  • Anonymous

    Salman khurshid has graduated from “tears’ to “rights”

    He said “i will fight for the RIGHTS of Pasmanda Muslims even if the Election Commission hangs me”‘ at an election rally in Khatapur, UP.

    The rights he was referring to was the proposed reservation.

    And this guy used to be the law minister!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He is the Law Minister.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar–

    yes, for a moment, my senior mind thought Moiley is the law guy

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    Ravi Reply:

    Or more like you had imagined that the BJP had won the election and Varun Gandhi was the new Law Minister.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Moily was too oily and he was removed.

    But Salman Khursheed has committed khudkhushiee.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Then, double bad…..Rights?

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  • Anonymous

    There is no proper scientic survey , MOST OF THE INFILTRATORS ARE HINDUS, though the part of Assam bordering Sylhet 90% are muslim infiltrators .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr Shan

    With reference to what??? Who is infiltrating to where???

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  • Anonymous

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    ~~ EEeeKS !! THE KEATS OF LeT ~~~ WANTS TO BE A STAND UP COMIC !! ~~~
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    Let us all help our dear Raviji. He seems to have fallen into bad times as the dole from the Lashkar has dried up, primarily because America has stopped Pakistani aid and Pakistan has consequently stopped aid to Lashkar !

    To supplement his income he is now trying his hand at being a stand up comic. And the end result is a tragedy…. we poor, hapless bloggers are subjected to the sheer torture of his attempts at being funny!!!!!!!!!!

    Arre pyaare Raviji, why dont give it up yaar?

    Maybe you could hunt for alternative vocation.

    Shenoy could teach you how to make cLothes and you could subcontract an order of Khaki nicker and Kali topi for the RSS. Wah!! Wah !! it will be gr8 fun dancing wearing a khaki nicker and running amok in your factory and singing “yeh ladki bheegi bhaagi si…”

    Balwinder ji, despITe the personal abuse you heaped on him, will have aheart large enough to teach you the in and out of the transport and torism business in UK !!!

    I am a small guy but promise to teach you the effects of gravity, air pressure and eco friednly buildings. Imagine constructing a camp for detoxifying jehadis instead of living in a camp which makes toxic jehadis!!!!!!!!

    And if you still want to be a stand up comic… Mohan will teach u real humour …!!

    SO HO JAYE YEH SAB KUCH !!!!!!!

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    shekhar gandotra Reply:

    Very funny Mr Kumar! That man was certainly giving very boring stuff!

    You call him Keats of Laskar tayebba. I will call him Mastram of Lashkar becasue he keep saying rape rape all the time !

    Good joke

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The Mastram of Lashkar-e-Tayyeba !!

    What a title and well earned by our fundooo !!

    Fantastic Shekhar !

    HAHHA HAAA !

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    Ravi Reply:

    Here comes Ezra Pound, the literary critic extraordinaire

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    shekhar gandotra Reply:

    I am Shekhar … you are Mastram of LeT who keeps shouting rape rape to deflect attention from jehadi attacks.

    You are very boring… change your song!

    mastram , when u are writing next novel?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I like the ‘mastram’ title for the jihadi fundoo, fake Ravi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    BTW, did we notice how popular you have become ?
    I am sure RSS and other fundoos is going to design a set of performance metrics for its cadre mostly centred around how much invectives and abuse the person hurls at you.

    shekhar gandotra Reply:

    Mr Maheshji

    I think you do not appreciate the great degree of stress and effect of terror we people in Jammu feel. I know Mumbai also gets terror attacks now and then. Sometimes big ones like 26/11 also,

    But in Jammu the religious division has occured only because of Pakistan. When Mr Ravi tries to slip in Pakistani supporting twist to everything, I think many bloggers react. You may find it funny,

    But for many of us who love India, it is hateful and decietful. This needs full expose and the snakes who creep in to poison our societes need to be defanged.

    I think we need to defang Mr Ravi so that poison agenda in him gets finshed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shekharji,
    Are we not making too many assumptions here ?
    How do we decide I don’t appreciate the stress people in Jammu have gone through.
    Furthermore, what is the basis of your assumption about whatever you say about Ravi ?
    Looking forward towards your answers.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shekhar,

    Mahesh is incapable of appreciating the terror unleashed by Pakistan in J&K, because as you have seen on TV, the congress president sheds copious tears for slain terrorists, but not for the brave police officer who died defending our country.

    Being a congressi, Mahesh likes his president crying for the beloved terrorists.

    No surprise there.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh

    Would there be prizes for the ‘best’ performer?

    At the moment it looks like its one-abuser race. Will win hands down, with the other one a close second. Others are all part timers, so there should be an ‘honourable’ mention for them too, who have their say and scoot. In addition, spare a thought for the ‘waah, waah’ clapper boys.

    Watch this space for more abuse – the night duty man will be here any moment.

    Ravi Reply:

    Mahesh

    I am glad to have been the agent of some economic activity of the Sangh Parivaar.

    If some money comes the way of people who feel necessary to attach canned laughter to their own He He Ha Ha jokes then so be it.

    What do you think is the Tariff:

    100 rupees each time the word Fake precedes my name. Shenoy must be close to having gained millions of rupees on that account alone.

    200 rupees if one can weave in the word Jihadi in any reply to me. Khaplodia must be laughing to sector 15 iambibiiam bank.

    500 rupees if you could bring in the words ISI agent, etc

    1000 for every Muridke.

    Extra bonus is offered to those, who on the basis of provided evidence know that I am really Ravi, but still feel the necessity of using the word Fake. There are TWO who did that on this today’s contribution alone.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    you love to live upto your reputation as the congressi troll, who along with the other congressi troll, never fail to jump to the defence of the the terror sympathiser and the Islamic fundoo.

  • Anonymous

    India Second on Happiest Counties List: Survey

    http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/296969/20120211/happiest-countries-india-very-happy-list-ipsos.htm

    ————–

    Do the poor and the downtrodden in the dusty hamlets count and matter?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar-
    Poverty and happiness do not have any correlation, except for extreme poverty.

    The same survey few years ago had had similar results.

    I remember an interview with Patrick Swazey, the main actor of “city of Joy” the 1992 film about Calcutta slums and the wretched lives there. He said he was amazed how happy and calm the residents were amidst all the sufferings they and their friends and relatives had.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    To certain extent indeed poverty and happiness are linked. it is the capacity of mankind to accept one’s state and carry on with life – in that way he/she would be happy – and not crib about what would or should have been.

    However, my point was indeed directed at the extreme poverty in rural India and in many pockets in urban India too. The number being huge – I wonder whether we are the second happiest country on earth. I do not think so.

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  • Anonymous

    Here is an interesting contest – the result of which will speak volumes about the voters.

    Polls 2012: UP’s rice bowl, jailed don is pitted against former cop

    http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_polls-2012-up-s-rice-bowl-jailed-don-is-pitted-against-former-cop_1648710

    Brajesh Singh, facing several cases of serious offences and currently lodged in the Ahmedabad jail is contesting as a Pragatisheel Manav Samaj Party (PMSP) candidate? an outfit conceived by one-time dacoit and former MP Phoolan Devi.

    ——–

    Shailendra Singh, a former deputy SP who had a long stint with STF, is the Congress candidate.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It simply is unbelievable that this “great parliamentary democracy” will allow elections to be fought from jails!

    There was a report that 40% or so of the candidates have criminal cases against them; with 20% filed for serious crimes like murder, abetting murder, kidnapping etc..

    I just do not understand that all the politicos were in an uproar about “how bad, resign” etc on the three stupid Karnataka ministers who were watching porn, but no politico is against criminals contesting!

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    Ravi Reply:

    This is a hang-over from the days when our freedom fighters were jailed and they ran their political activities from within the jail.

    I think a law should be passed that any one with a serious criminal record should be barred from standing for elections.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi & Gopi

    Attempts have been made to amend the Representation of People’s Act, 1951 to bar candidates with ’serious; cases registered against them, but no luck.

    Another bill is sought to be introduced in this budget session, where any person against whom charge sheet(s) [and not the basis of FIRs and mere allegations] have been framed, will not be allowed to contest. Let us if it is introduced and whether it is passed into law. Anna Hazare, ‘where are you’?

    Ravi Reply:

    Exactly, I consider this as more important than the creation of a Lokpal.

  • Anonymous

    Manohar

    Regarding central rule and killing “democracy” — guess who did it first?

    It was Shrimathi Indira Priyadarshini Gandhi, as the Congress President in 1960, persuaded Jawaharlal to dismiss the first “opposition” to Congress, the first democratically elected communist govt (in India and in the world) of Kerala, the ministry under EMS Namboodiripad.

    She, her congress in collusion with the church and high caste organizations like NSS, initiated a “vimochan samar” (liberation movement) that resulted in teh EMS ministry to be dismissed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    State governments have been periodically dismissed at the whims and facnies of the centre. In 1980, all non Congress state governments were dismissed when Indiraji came back to power.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    As usual, you have been economical with the truth.

    The most important event in this regard is the dismissal of 9 Congress ruled states by Janta Party, when it came into power in the year 1977.

    —————-
    Then there was the ***-of-tat.

    The same incident again took place in the year 1980, when Congress Party again secured majority in the Lok Sabha. It proclaimed emergency in 9 states ruled by non-Congress parties. The reason given by the then Prime Minister of India was that governments in these states no longer attain faith of the electorate.

    ————

    IMO, both the times, the decision was wrong. What say?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think the emergency was a special situation. There was a mass resentment aggainst dynastic propogation and curtailment of democracy.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Still no sign of that ‘nerve’. Never mind.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,
    Elsewhere you have expressed military taking over polity, maoists “disciplining” polity and relating assorted sentiments.
    And yet, you cringe at Indira Gandhi’s high-handedness.
    What explains the contradiction ?

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    Ravi Reply:

    And that is only the start of inconsistencies

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    shekhar gandotra Reply:

    @ Maheshji

    Cannot you see the difference between people who want to destroy India–like Maoists and people who move in democracy like Indiraji but
    take wrong action?

    Mrs gandhi was not like Maoists. Had she been there she would have controlled problem like she did in Naxalite situation. But her dismissal of state government was bad and that is what Gopi sir was pointing out.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shekharji,
    Actually Gopi’s argument is other way round.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    ‘cringe’ is a word I would hesitate to use even for the fakes here on the blog. One of the many similar meanings of ‘cringe’ is “to shrink in fear or servility”.

    I don’t think Gopi has any more reasons to shrink in fear than engrich has before Masood Azhar.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,
    Are we not leaning too much on syntax of argument to score a point ?
    Why wouldn’t Gopi – or for that matter anybody else – fear about high-handedness ?
    That said, we still have our original question un-answered.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    There have been 37 instances of the President’s rule (the first instance was in 1951), many justifiable and other not so. The Constitution has been amended. Now the imposition without the sanction of the Parliament is not permissible and one needs 2/3rd majority, if I am not mistaken. This is just a gist. One needs to read Article 356 in detail.

    I am in no way justifying it, there always has to be a first time for anything. With one too many instances of misuse, the Constitution was amended.

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  • Anonymous

    Ashish and Prahlad,
    Digging out some stale meat of discussion from this blog….
    The code copy-paste thing Prahlad was talking about…..
    To start with the copy-paste thing , what is wrong in looking up code samples on google and copying them so long as the person is well versed and proficient with underlying design ? It is lot like buying bricks for construction work . Do we ever question the construction contractor for buying bricks ? Worry rather if most of the work the developers are involved in is jus that – mindlessly crafting the code.
    Prahlad, is that what yoou were saying ?
    There are another couple of aspects too….
    First the ease of use with development tools and availability of information has made it easy to write code for a quicker roll-out.
    Secondly, lot of niche and general purpose tools can be bought / obtained off the shelf that reduces the skills requirement for handling architecturally complex work. For instance, one could just go ahead and use Windows Azure (or Amazon’s cloud infra. for that matter) to build fairly scalable Enterprise Apps. (There are a few iffs and buts , but then these are more of exceptions…).
    Third, are we at times confusing specialisation with proficiency ? For instance , somebody working in area as specialised as – say – programming of wireless routers may not necessarily be a excellently skilled programmer. Notice the “rhetorical de-construction” of skills happening ?
    Fourth, did we notice the changing landscape of industry itself ? We are seeing emergence of per task bidding being offered at several web sites. Did we miss the underlying commoditisation that is happening with the work ?
    Prahlad was probably arguing about our IT success story being mostly a product of low cost – I am curious how much of his bets he would still place on the same reasoning against the backdrop of changes hapening.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Mahesh

    Sample code, both by Platform manufacturers and from freeware developers is always distributed over the net.

    Let us take an example.

    Any internet developer needs to make sure that their site works satisfactorily in older versions of popular browsers.

    The code that ensures this is frequently copy and pasted by 1000s of developers around the world.

    No harm in that, it is tested and approved. Nothing is gained by re-coding it.

    Many such examples can be cited.

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    AshishC Reply:

    Mahesh,
    My point is much simpler (I am in the software industry but I can’t code for nuts; so, I have no sense being personally wronged by Prahlad).
    Even if what Prahlad says is true (“code reuse” etc), his point would apply to all fields of human endeavour. The real brain work is always done by less than 5% of the people- it is as true of Indian software industry as Indian machine tools industry or Pharma or Leather for example. And, IMO, as true of India as USA or Venezuela.
    Our problem is not a software industry problem- for the true nature of the problem, read the PISA scores (or even sit with your daughter with her classwork/ homework).

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The word PHARMA has been dropped , so it is MANDATORY i should step in. Pharma companies have DONE ORIGINAL WORK in the DEVISING THE ALTERNATE CHEMICAL PATHWAY, thus bypassing PATENT ..India DID NOT RECOGNISE TILL RECENTLY PATENT ON MOLECULES but recognised the PATENT on the CHEMICAL SYNTHESIS PATHWAY. Thus Indian pharmas have robbed the western pharma giants of their SLEEP.
    THIS IS WHY INDIA WAS ABLE TO OFFER USA CIPROFLOXACIN IN BILLIONS, after the ANTHRAX letter bomb scare immediately after
    9/11.To buy from the INVENTOR BAYER of germany would precipitated a US treasury bankruptcy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish,

    “I am in the software industry but I can’t code for nuts; so, I have no sense being personally wronged by Prahlad”
    I never implied anything about you – just pointed out the counter-argument about copy-paste.

    “Even if what Prahlad says is true (“code reuse” etc), his point would apply to all fields of human endeavour. The real brain work is always done by less than 5% of the people- it is as true of Indian software industry as Indian machine tools industry or Pharma or Leather for example. And, IMO, as true of India as USA or Venezuela.”
    Did you intend to mean 5% of what is done is non-routine and complex or only 5% of people do non-routine and complex work ?

    “Our problem is not a software industry problem- for the true nature of the problem, read the PISA scores (or even sit with your daughter with her classwork/ homework). ”
    Agreed , not understood – though – as to where the point is leading to.
    Are we saying we severely lack competencies because schooling is bad ? Alternately, are we saying we have terrible competency in schooling children ? Or is it both playing out each other ?
    Or, are you saying schooling is just one sample of our backwardness ?

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    AshishC Reply:

    Mahesh,
    I did not say you did.. it’s just that I sometimes think it is a wonder myself- that I work in this industry.
    5% is about right- of the real complex or non-routine work- that gets done- rest is “standing on the shoulder of giants”- I agree; except to say that this applies as much to any field of human endeavor. This is not to say that the 99% perspiration is of no use; without that, the 1% inspiration would not work.
    The PISA scores comment came after a particularly hard evening supervising my teenage daughter’s physics and maths work :D Yes, we have poor teachers, bad curriculum and with terrible mid to long term impact on competency- I also went through a hiring exercise recently – suffice it to say, I have much sympathy for Prahlad’s views; except that I think his targeting the software industry is unfair :D

  • Anonymous

    I have been watching this blog on and off, but as Balwinderji asked for my opinion, I am venturing in again. He had asked my opinion as a Muslim and frankly, many a time earlier, I would be bewildered and upset when people would stress my religious
    identity first.

    The first part is the Batla house thing. I have no independent secret pipeline which informs me that it was a fake encounter, except what I read in the news. The politicians who say it is a fake encounter, should produce evidence that it was a fake and those killed were not terrorists. Otherwise they are grossly damaging society as never before.

    On one end we have Salman saying that Soniaji cried bitterly on seeing the pictures of the dead. On the same night we see Renuka Choudhary making a mockery of Sonia’s tears, indicating that Salman’s story was just for the crowds and was sort of very funny. What are the Muslim masses supposed to think?

    Let us just have factual news on terror deaths. If an innocent is killed, then punish the policeman. If the dead is a terrorist, punish the politician who tells lies about it.

    let me tell you UP is now more divided on religious lines than ever before. On a visit to my hometown the discussion in the chai shop would always be on “which party is giving what to Muslims.” Well all the voting is going to be on religious lines, this way.

    The future could well get worse if we go further along this road.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Applause on every point

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am sure your minders have permitted you to write all this tripe.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Parvez-

    You are absolutely right.
    UP is going down the hell hole. It has to be divided into small states as Vijay Kumar suggested.

    The St Stephens/Oxford educated grandson of Zakir Hussain, married to a Christian lady trying to put Muslims in their “box” is quite lamentable..

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    Ravi Reply:

    Parvez and Shoeb

    It is patently clear that during the election period all political parties pander to their respective constituencies. When it comes to the Muslims, the pandering is almost always done by the Congress party. This is lamentable.

    However, before we throw away the baby with the bath water, one needs to consider the alternatives. If Muslims in UP were not organised around the Congress, then there is the risk that they would become organised around a Muslim Religious party, of the Muslim League kind. If that was to happen then UP is hardly going to become any more united than it presently feels.

    This feeling of division is often short lived, about 3 months either side of state elections. At all other times life assumes normality.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Batla House fake encounter is more than 3 years old.

    But the fake tears Sonia Gandhy shed are now fresh and green.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Pervez

    You should come here more often!

    I think many Indians are bewildered why Congress is not clearly saying that terroirsts need to be punished severly and innocents protected.

    Shamefully een on the 26/11 attacks, evil forces tried to sell it as a conspiracy of the RSS.

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  • Anonymous

    Khurshid has decided to defy EC. This is in accordance to great democratic traditions of Congress.

    Here is EC’s letter to puppet President-
    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/full-text-election-commission-writes-to-president-against-salman-khurshid-175492

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Rajeev

    Absolutely shamefull. The entire game is to divide India into as many possible zones at loggerheads with each other

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Just spoke to somebody from UP. It looks like this Khurshid -EC episode is a ploy to project Khurshid as martyr in the eyes of muslims. The EC-President-PMO will reprimand Khurshid resulting in banning Khurshid from campaigning. This in turn will help Khurshid gain muslim sympathy and this votes.

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  • Anonymous

    Well, looks like the extremist Muslims will screw up the idyllic Maldives, destroy its tourist economy, drag the country to medieval ages..

    India, as usual is sitting on the side.

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    Ravi Reply:

    What do you think India should do.

    Here is a suggestion.

    1. India should suggest that the new Islamic Fundo Gov in Maldives poses an existential threat to India.

    2. India should dispatch a Nuclear Submarine to Maldives just as Britain has sent one to the Malvinos.

    3. Muslims in India, will protest.

    4. That would be treated as a riot started by the Muslims by the RSS, who in turn will retaliate.

    5. 2000 Muslims will die as will 200 Hindus

    6. Pakistan will protest and B V Shenoy will sing a song.

    Oh do I have to go on, over to Balwinder, who fancies himself as a bit of a wit.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    Dont react please. This man is trying his hand at being a stand up comic, even though the result is pathetic as the above posting shows.

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    engrich Reply:

    good and very true.

    LIKE KERALA UP WILL BECOME ASYLUM OF LUNATICS.
    religious politics was started by bjp turned into caste politics.
    congress rule hurted muslims a lot.though i think congress as the best alternative for muslim.but congress has to show that they are really against bjp and its ideology.moreover they are capable of producing nitish kumar.only way to finish casteism is tornado of development.

    sonia jee is doing a lot.everyday one deshbhakt is caught.muslim vote goes to any candidate who can defeat bjp.it is not on caste basis.congress ha to convice to muslims that they can provide protection to them by gundaas of rss.and most important can start development.

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    Ravi Reply:

    I also believe that Muslim community is more passionately against the BJP than it is for the Congress.

    Congress just happens to be the beneficiary of BJP’s divide and communal hatred policies

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    I disagree. I have worked in Maldives. First of all – it is perhaps the only country in the world that is 100% Muslim. Non-Muslims are not granted citizenship. It also recognizes the fact that their economy is solely dependent on tourism and sea-food exports – a number of activities and practices are allowed in the tourist resorts (which have large number of Maldivians working there in various capacities) that are ‘not permissible’ in Islam. English language is a compulsory subject in the education system.

    IMO, the present crisis is purely political between various factions/parties.

    What do you expect India should do?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Fearing coup, Nasheed got India to back him in 2010

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/fearing-coup-nasheed-got-india-to-back-him-in-2010/910932/0

    ———–

    Mohammed Nasheed may now claim that that he was forced to quit office, but the fact is that the former Maldivian president had to be bailed out more than once through his crisis-ridden presidency. The closest shave was in 2010, when he survived after India firmly backed him.

    —–

    Read on

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  • Anonymous

    Cry my beloved country!

    Well, i am not going to sleep well tonight.

    A 6 yr old girl was raped and suffocated to death in Bangalore today.. The daily wage parents had gone out for work leaving the girl in charge of her 2 yr old brother. The family lived in an ‘underconstruction’ site.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What happened to your DEAR VIJU , apparently western countries are only supposed to indulge in these acts , Shenoy BV and his judwa Viju , or Viju and Raju(rajeevS) ,ARE YOU SURE THIS NOT A MALACIOUS DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN BY SWETALINGHAMS cousin of RAMALINGHAM RAJU

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Raping a six year old child..What is happening to India? Are we turning into 7th century arabia?

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    engrich Reply:

    after ******* ur mother .son of a *****.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shame on you, Engrich.for using such language.

    engrich Reply:

    i am ashamed but why this son of a ***** insult my prophet during discussion.he is mad, eccentric and an idiot.

    i am sorry mohan but there is limit for everything.

    Anonymous Reply:

    well, you always spew venom – on brahmins, jews, high caste, this caste, that caste…
    You dump on Hindu Gods …so you reap what you saw

    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,
    The muslims are bound to respect prophet but this rule does not apply on non-muslims.

    engrich Reply:

    u can attack islamic.i will debate.being naqhbandi u are also very close to our thought.

    attacking and insulting anybodys prophet is against the great thought of sufism.i hope next time u will repeat it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Prophet was a historical person not somebody divine so he can be criticized as well as praised.

    Case Closed.

    engrich Reply:

    this rule does not apply on non-muslims.

    this does not give u the right to abuse others.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you abuse Hindus, their gods, Lord Rama, Lord Krishna and their saints day in and day out, rest assured, your prophet is going to be abused.

    After all the abuse against Hindus, you cannot set parameters for debate and say what can be discussed and debated and what should not be debated.

    engrich Reply:

    u attack jehadi i never get angry because u have the right.i attack brhmns for what they are doing or had been doing.he can attak islamic thought.

    Anonymous Reply:

    phir gaali bak raha hai.

    hatred for Hindus has blinded you so much you don’t see who is Mohan and who is your friend and protector, the congrssi troll!

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks Manohar.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    You are welcome.

    Instead of thanking me, only if you could reprimand other abusers here.

    engrich Reply:

    u are right mohan sometimes words pierces into heart like sword.abusing my prophet was totally out of subject.
    anyhow i again say sorry.protest shpuld have comefrom from sane people like u and others.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You have become too much for even your friend, the congressi troll and the other jihadi fundoo comrade of yours.
    .
    You are a hate-filled Islamic pig on this blog

    engrich Reply:

    sometime truth is sour.

    engrich Reply:

    rajeev too bhi sala kis bhosde ke padaish hai.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Your language reflects on your prophet and community.

    engrich Reply:

    that does not the reality that u are an mad stupid.and eccentric man.

  • Anonymous

    What is the difference between guilt and shame ?

    It’s a guilt to sleep with a woman who is not your wife.
    But it’s a shame to miss such an opportunity.

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    engrich Reply:

    read it

    http://www.tehelka.com/story_main51.asp?filename=Ws110212Modi.asp

    u will find differnce between guilt and shame.

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  • Ravi

    Modi, Modi, Modi – Rape, Rape Rape

    Raju Ramachandran’s explosive confidential report that had told the Supreme Court that Modi should be chargesheeted and prosecuted for serious criminal offences like promoting religious enmity, doing acts prejudicial to national integration and maintenance of harmony and deliberately and wantonly disobeying the law with intent to cause injury. Ramachandran recommended criminal prosecution against Modi under different cognizable and non-cognizable offences with some of them carrying a maximum imprisonment for three years.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Supreme Court spectacularly ignored the ’scholarly’ report of Raju ramachandran. It even gave the report to Raghavan and asked him to deal with it as he thought fit. SC further authorised the SIT to decide whether to take cognisance of Raju’s report at all or not while reporting to the trial court.

    Further, SC merely asked the trial court to give “a hearing” to Mrs. Jaffri, before disposing of the matter.

    Raju was appointed by the SC as the Amicus Curie as far as the evaluation of the SIT report was concerned.

    Then, why did the SC treat Raju’s report almost with (unstated) contempt?

    Because instead of acting as an impartial, disinterested officer of the court, he worked actively as the legal advisor of teesta Setalvad and CO.

    All his suggestions of what the SC should do for Modi were thrown in the dustbin, because they were all repetitions of Teesta’s accusations without even a shred of proof.

    AYEE BAAT SMAJH MEIN. FUNDOO?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    Beyond his comprehension.

    Th subjecct of this blog is SC recognises Coalition pitflls? His answer is MOdi MOdi rape rape :)

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    Ravi Reply:

    This very Raju Ramachandran was a political appointee of the BJP. An assistant Attorney General no less.

    Bat ab samajh mein aayei

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  • Anonymous

    India-US difference on Iran
    NY Times today
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/world/asia/india-trumpets-ties-with-us-amid-iran-oil-deal.html

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    Dr Mishra Reply:

    thanks Binoy, complex situation analysed with great sensitivity towards India’s predicament, esp the bit about India bartering with Iran. Ane the bit that when US withdraws, we need to reaffirm our ties within our ‘neighbourhood’

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  • Anonymous

    Parvez thanks for reply, you are our ear to ground of UP muslim opinion. Yes UP is getting polarised, but I also see massive voter turnout as positive sign. Parvez, WHAT YOU THINK OF MY AZAMGARH “wounded pride” thesis, did u read it.
    pl do not upset over my questions to u about what muslims think, I am curious.
    Ravi, again you are trying humour alternating with long boring posts. STOP, NO MORE OF YR BAD HUMOUR, and dont try and make Parvez uncomfy, blog likes fresh sound of honest muslim voices

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    Anonymous Reply:

    HOW ABOUT YOUR OPINION ON KABUTERBAJI AND WHY FAKE GRANTHIS ARE SMUGGLED INTO UK, AND WHY GUUDWARA RATHER THAN TEACH RELIGION TEACHES EVERY AVENUE TO GET IMMIGRANTS IN , AND HOW TO FOOL THE GOVT AND GET MONEY FRONM SOCIAL SECURITY

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  • Anonymous

    Corrupt politicians everywhere including Marxists –

    The state CPM conference just finished here with members hounding on the veteran leader Achuthanandan as “betrayer” “class enemy” etc because he was after corrupt Marxist ministers/board chairmen while in govt

    They said the party lost the elections because Aachuthanandan was critical of corrupt Marxist ministers and he should have been silent …

    Marxists want to make millions, Congress of course, and BJP too…. no difference among any of these

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  • Anonymous

    Perzeeda Syed, Education Minister for Kashmir, is found gulty of pressurizing education dept administrators to award his son passing marks in the higher secondary exam. This guy sends his resignation letter to Sonia Gandhi (and not to Omar Abdulla), Sonia says he does not have to resign…

    Figure it out guys… Obviously a waitress does not care much about education, passing marks etc… ,

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sending resignation to Sonia directly and EC sends letter to Sonia indirectly thru President and PMO regarding Khurshid. Looks like she is the ultimate authority in India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi Sir,

    ” Figure it out guys… Obviously a waitress does not care ”

    -

    I believe you care a lot about youth. I am sure this statement of yours will be a huge inspiration to all those young boys and girls working in McDonalds and supporting their education.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    McDonalds and Prabhat…Old connection :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Prabhat and Prahlad, what a connection!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Prabhat threatened me once and asked me to meet at CP McDonalds..

    Anonymous Reply:

    I hope they will care about education, and will not engage in corruption and lead a righteous life….
    Mrs Gaandhi should have fired him… I should not have used the term “waitress”, I am quite troubled these days about all pillars falling around..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Prahlad Sir,

    it would have immensely helped to understand your point if you had cared to explain the context of the Mcdonald boys and girls, who are earning and learning.

    It would also have helped you if you had tried to understand what Gopi meant in the context of the J&K minister’s fraud.

    Sonia Ghandy had passed herself off as a graduate of Cambridge university, even to the election commission, until Subramania Swamy exposed her own fraud of her being a one year English speaking course certificate holder.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Correction – “SIX MONTHS English speaking course certificate holder. “

    Anonymous Reply:

    If one has to find fault and slam one’s objects of hate, then even a bent toe or a broken nail is sufficient.

    Also perhaps, dignity of labour is an unacceptable concept to many here.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Because Sonia herself and her son got their education and certificates, diplomas ans degrees in the same manner.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS

    My understanding is that her son never completed any college academic program and does not have a “certificate” …

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, he is a metriculate, but was pretending to do some technical course in England. Fake Ravi may know more about these fake studies and fake courses.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “………passing marks etc…”

    Passing mustard seems to be more urgent and practical.

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  • Anonymous

                                     
    A man walks into his bedroom and sees his wife packing a suitcase.
    He asks, “What are you doing?”
    She answers, “I’m moving to New York . I heard prostitutes there get paid $400 a night for doing what I do for you for free.”
    A little later, on her way out, the wife walks past the bedroom and sees her husband packing his suitcase.
     
    When she asks him where he is going, he replies,
     
    “I’m coming too. I want to see how you live on $800 a year.” 

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The husband says I am going to find someone who can give twice a night for free

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  • Anonymous

    Shaan the Chingulate has become mad with his hatred for anything Indian and Punjabi.

    Of kabootarbaazi Shan has become obsessed.
    Of anti-India feelings he has become possessed.

    He himself ran away to UK with a fake degree, as a stow-away
    Now, he wants, from the English shores every Indian kept away.

    He doesn’t know between forgetfulness and dementia
    But he pretends to know all about Somalia and their militia

    He operates on patients without sedation or anesthesia
    and when the patient dies, he screams “euthenasia, euthenasia”

    He loves Englishmen, French, German and all people white
    He drinks cheap daaru but pretends to drink Black & White.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @Shenoy and Shan

    Since you made a vague comment generalising the rape of a 6 yr old .

    I would also suggest to Shan to watch out. WIth the stabbing of an Indiansutedent again in UK… be careful before u say anything ajeeb in the OT, with so many other surgeons around…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Stabbing in UK and particular that area is a everyday occurance .
    For your information SIXTY LANGUAGES are spoken in the schools of NEWHAM BOROUGH where this student was stabbed. Poles Russians , Bulgarians , Molodovian , Lithuanian Somali , and 55 more different nationality lives in that borough.
    Incidentally the WHITECHAPELHOSPITAL where this student is beng treated has THREE INDIAN surgeons , one BHATTACHARJEE is a reputed Liver Surgeon, he is from Delhi, his wife is Tamil also a diabetologist In Newham General hospital
    Though the student may have been operated by a WHITE guy (possibly, depending on the rota) who heads the TRAUMA dept,
    HE WOULD HAVE BEEN LONG DEAD IF IT HAPPENED IN INDIA
    that is stabbing

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What ou are trying to sa is that he is lucky to be stabbed in UK and further lucky that Indian doctors will attend to him… pretty funny

    Anonymous Reply:

    Even funny he was apparently stabbed by Indian guys.
    Funny he had to come 5000 miles away from home.
    However that Indian guys mentioned by London Police , is Bangladeshi gang , lumped into that all enveloping word INDIAN which stands for brown or SOUTH ASIAN

    Anonymous Reply:

    japanese haiku peshe khidmat hai
    SnenoyBV
    Uski biwi
    wellpast the Mpause
    so Danda Gulli have long been in pause
    Frustration
    Anger
    Prejudice
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    Psychiatrist
    Deep Brain Stimulation
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    Back to Mobile phone darshan

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think you should limit the abuse to the person and NOT to the family/wife etc. This wa you will become an engrich. If Shenoy said something to you… say it back. But refrain to attack the family.

    You should apologise for this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Why abuse in the first place?

    Wait a minute, now I get it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan

    This is not done. Deal with him as a man. Never bring in a family member. Sorry to say
    but respect for you has gone down a notch for me.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There was no abuse directed at the family member unless the family member happens to be in her twenties, I was merely following NEWTON’S THIRD LAW , in the blog

  • Anonymous

    @ Prahlad

    Since my two comments on the software industry were chopped off by the censor, can we assume that this blogsite too is under watch of the Indian gestapo and those who dont fall into line will face the ED, IT and other harassments.

    I am reminded of the Rajan case which Gopi refers too. Will the patriotic Indians become Rajans again?

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–~~ Election scene in NOIDA and UP ~~~~~It’s all about money, honey !!!! :) :) ~~
    ————————————————————————————————————————

    Sunday for me means a long ten km brisk walk and then maybe a game…

    But today I had to land up in Noida at 7 to attend the foundation ceremnoy of a clients factory . Gopi ur wishes worked. I got this small contract…

    Just met some guys who are participating in campaigning in the UP elections. The equation goes like this.

    a) The BSP and Congress are spending good amounts. SP a little less and BJP–almost nothing.

    b) All campaigning naarebaaj get 250 bucks a day plus food from the Congress. The BSP gives 350 rupees plus food and the SP something similar… The BJP candidate is a doctor but not a gr8 mobiliser and will lose.

    c) So in the end the partty which is visible is the one which manages to get 500 people per day running around and also spending on posters and cars and vehicles.. BSP is the most isible… followed by the Congress.

    You need about a crore to fight the elections at the minimum and another few crores to feed the party to get a ticket !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju
    Congrats..get more contracts..give jobs..

    Yes, money speaks…who gives gets…..

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  • Anonymous

    Fake Ravi has filed a patently fake report about Raju ramachandran:

    “Modi, Modi, Modi – Rape, Rape Rape

    Raju Ramachandran’s explosive confidential report that had told the Supreme Court that Modi should be chargesheeted and prosecuted for serious criminal offences like promoting religious enmity, doing acts prejudicial to national integration and maintenance of harmony and deliberately and wantonly disobeying the law with intent to cause injury. Ramachandran recommended criminal prosecution against Modi under different cognizable and non-cognizable offences with some of them carrying a maximum imprisonment for three years.”

    Hindustan Times reports:

    Raju Ramachandran, amicus curiae (friend of the court), has in his report found “no
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    clinching evidence” to dispute the presence of suspended IPS officer Sanjeev Bhatt at
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    Modi’s residence on the night of February 27, 2002.
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    HT has learnt that though Ramachandran hasn’t concluded that Modi should be
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    chargesheeted based on Bhatt’s testimony,

    he has insisted the trial court subject Bhatt and all the officers contradicting him to
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    cross-examination.
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    In its closure report filed in an Ahmedabad court, the SIT had declared Bhatt an “unreliable witness”.
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    Ramachandran said if Bhatt’s testimony passes the court’s scrutiny, Modi could be tried for promoting enmity between communities, making provocative statements and for imputations harming national integration. Disagreeing with the SIT, he said there was enough evidence to try police officials posted during the riots for criminal negligence.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Bhatt is a basket case…the man is silent for many years, gets largess from the govt and one fine morning comes up with all this clear evidence..

    Modi has to deploy a legal angle, if there is, about state’s rights and cut off all future frivolous cases regarding post-godhra. Otherwise this will go on grinding for another 25 years or so till he dies.

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  • Ravi

    GenuWhine Saffron Fundo whines again.

    Here is the head-line……

    What the Amicus really told the Supreme Court: Prosecute Modi!
    Amicus Curiae Raju Ramachandran had recommended prosecuting Narendra Modi on several grounds… Ashish Khetan scoops his report
    …….here is the link.

    http://www.tehelka.com/story_main51.asp?filename=Ws110212Modi.asp

    Read for yourselves and make-up your own minds.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You and your Tehelka…

    An India that has to have an “Amicus Curiae” to conduct parts of its affairs??? Democracy of the “people”???.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    what Tehelka has not told these fake Hindu and jihadi fundoo is that the SC, after reading “the explosive report” of the amicus curiae, has thrown it into the lap of the SIT to ‘deal with it aappropriately’.

    And SIT has done exactly that -thrown it into the nearest dustbin (of history).

    While AC finds Bhatt a witness whose lack of credibility cannot be disproved, the SC has thrown his affidavit intro the dustbin!

    He was not called by the SIT to give evidence as it says in its report that he is a witness of doubtful credibility.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Amicus Curiae has become amicable but curious.

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  • Anonymous

    Guys–

    This is the big news here:

    One Muhamed Samir, from Thana (not the Mumbai Thane, a place 2 miles from my home here in Kannur, kerala) is arrested in Delhi in connection with the Mumbai Diamond market and Bangalore terrorist explosion.

    He is a member of Jammat ul Ansarul Muslimeen , an offshoot of SIMI. (I hope somebody brings a bill in the parliament that the terrorist organizations should have Hindi/English/Sanskrit/local state languages and not something nobody can understand! fits in with “amicus curiae”)

    All or most of the hawala transactions for terrorist acts go through the Kerala members of this organization.. these guys do the money laundering for Bhatkal and co

    Kashmir in the north; Kerala in the south… Congress cannot rule Kerala without the support of Muslim league (which is not a terrorist party)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    you are right.

    On the one hand, they say that terrorists have no religion. On the other they come up with these very suggestive names.

    But, I want to show you the “apology” of your fellow Keralite socialite, Roy:

    “There is a factual error in my essay Democracy: Where’s she when she’s at home? (May 6). In describing the brutal killing of Ehsan Jaffri, I have said that his daughters had been killed along with their father. It has subsequently been pointed out to me that this is not correct. Eyewitness accounts say that Ehsan Jaffri was killed along with his three brothers and two nephews. His daughters were not among the 10 women who were raped and killed in Chamanpura that day.
    I apologise to the Jaffri family for compounding their anguish. I’m truly sorry.
    My information (mis-information, as it turned out) was cross-checked from two sources. Time magazine (March 11) in an article by Meenakshi Ganguly and Anthony Spaeth; and “Gujarat Carnage 2002: A Report to the Nation” by an independent fact-finding mission which included K.S. Subrahmanyam, former IGP Tripura, and S.P. Shukla, former finance secretary. I spoke to Mr Subrahmanyam about the error. He said his information at that time came from a senior police official.
    This and other genuine errors in recounting the details of the violence in Gujarat in no way alters the substance of what journalists, fact-finding missions, or writers like myself are saying.”
    The link is: http://www.outlookindia.com/rants.asp?type=single&id=20020527133759

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The HOLY COW is coming home to roost.
    The GRAPHIC DESCRIPTION that you quote makes Gopi’s and ShoebK’s BELOVED GUJRAT as CIVILIZED as ROSE PETAL SHOWERING LAWYERS IN PAKISTAN

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You must ask Mamta di how civilised your West Bengal was under the Reds, who have massacred thousands of congress and TM workers.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Arundhati is the cerature of media. She will say anything to be in the media

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    engrich Reply:

    after sometime some aseemanand will apear and they will be released.jains all over world are expert in hawala bussines.they are very secular in bussines and support rss in practical life.who protect them.

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  • Anonymous

    Boy, you are becoming Mohammad Ali of this blog, every time a knock out

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The above was addressed to PrahladKSir in response to his posting about Mcdonald’s and waiters and students paying for education

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  • Anonymous

    Boy you are becoming Mohammad Ali of this blog , every time a knock out

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Chingulate, Fake Ravi, engrich,

    Beware!
    Be careful!
    I advise you,
    don’t mess with me.
    I know karate, kung fu, judo, tae kwon, jujitsu
    &
    28 other dangerous….
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    WORDS.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Ravi

    Modi Modi Modi, Rape Rape Rape, Modi, Rape. Modi Rape

    On Modi the score so far is:

    1. The USA is wrong

    2. The E. U. is wrong

    3. Amnesty International is wrong

    4. Amicus Curiae is wrong

    5. Tehlka is wrong.

    The only person who knows the real truth is the GenuWhine B V Shenoy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Fake Ravi,

    your faith in the USA and EU is touching.

    It is you and your fellow pseudos who were clutching at straws floated by the likes of Tehelka and Sanjeev Bhatt, who are wrong.

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~~ breaking news !! ~~ BREAKING NEWS ~~ !! breaking news !!! ~~~

    ~~ HAFEEZ SAEED GIVES ***** OF JEHADI VIAGRA TO FUNDOO !! ~~~
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    As fellow bloggers would notice we are being subjected to the torture of a diahrrea of Jehadi sh** from our resident fundoo, also known as Mr Rape rape rape.

    Investigations by NDTV and Tehalks have shown that this fundoo was sent to a retraining camp under the top Guru Shri hafeez Saeed, who did somehting to him in a closed room– an ***** of Jehadi **** !!

    And the jehadi Sh** has hit his brain :) :)

    And so Mr Rav is now trying to be a stand up comic…. and loosening his stories of rape rape !!

    What a failed joker !!

    Shenoy Sahab please give him an alternate employment in the section which is manufacturing khaki Nickers for the RSS !!

    Maybe just maybe there is a chance of his constipated brain…

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  • Ravi

    Why did the Supreme decide not to prosecute Modi?

    It would be absolutely correct to say that outside of his fan base, Modi is viewed with some suspicion. On the whole people believe that he is not as squeaky clean as his supporters would have you believe.

    With that kind of mood music playing in the back-ground, to start a prosecution based upon INSUFFICIENT evidence (in contra distinction from NO EVIDENCE) is risky.

    What is the risk?

    If prosecution succeeds then that may spell the end of Modi, but other Modis are waiting in the wings to take his place.

    If prosecution fails, then both Modi and the RSS would be strengthened and would never let the nation forget that in a court of law Modi was given a CLEAN CHIT.

    Right now, the status quo is that SC says not ENOUGH EVIDENCE, not NO EVIDENCE. This leaves doubt firmly hanging over his head – as a Damocles’s sword.

    This adds to growing list of cases against the RSS, which did not quite get prosecuted because of INSUUFICIENT EVIDENCE.

    आई बात समझ में

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    Anonymous Reply:

    So, what is your problem?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Modi Modi Modi, Rape Rape Rape.

    Thank you for the opportunity for repeating my problem.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    did not understand, did Modi rape anybody? Is he one of the ones doing 3000 rapes a day?

    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    Don’t come the innocent with me as if the communion wafer would not melt in your mouth.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Use of the word Communion wafer , just because it is addressed to some MR THOMAS is NAUGHTY

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not a ‘holy communion” Christian… one branch, many flowers

    Ravi Reply:

    I think you meant to say…one religion many branches.

    Ravi Reply:

    Chocolate is expensive these days and Thorntons is about to go bust.

    engrich Reply:

    apart from killing muslims to get control on hindu high caste votes,modi was running money extraction bussines with help of police officers and petty gundaas.

    gopi why u support him.he has no future.till america clears his visa,he will remain state level leader.he is in real pain as brhmns have ditched him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    You are clutching at the straws.

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    Ravi Reply:

    What are others clutching at??

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    Anonymous Reply:

    some of your fundoo friends are also clutching at curios like Raju Ramachandran, Sanjeev Bhatt and Tehelka

    Anonymous Reply:

    Isolated in party
    ——————
    Coomi Kapoor

    Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi who stayed away from the party national executive and has so far refrained from campaigning for the ongoing assembly elections, finds himself isolated in the party high command though he remains the favourite of the cadres. The attitude of the BJP central leadership is reflected in its failure to back Modi on opposition to a proposal for a General Services Tax to be implemented in the States. It prefers to side with Deputy Chief Minister of Bihar Sushil Kumar Modi who heads the empowered committee of state finance ministers. RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat has made clear that there is no place in the party for those who are not team players.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/looking-for-avenues/910983/0

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    engrich Reply:

    modi ji you are from the ‘Oil Crushing’, Ganchi caste. You are an OBC and you are being used as a tool by the Manuwadis to kill muslims. You used Dalits in 2002 to attack Muslims. We know the Manuwadi mind so well. They will use you and then throw you out one day. Even send you to the gallows one day. Before that you should ditch these people and join us and turn back against the upper caste jatwallahs. Today they hail you as the upper caste messiah but you dont know the mind of Zionists. They will use you and throw you.

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    AshishC Reply:

    Wildly clutching at straws… but, as I concede multiple times.. beautifully written

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  • Anonymous

    May Whitney Houston rest in peace…

    what a wonderful voice! “nada brahma”……

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  • Anonymous

    Another side of Osama bin Laden—

    Zakaria al- Sadah, brother in law of Osama bin Laden tells in an interview — “he (Osama) told his own children and grandchildren to go to Europe or US and get a good education”

    Our Muslim leaders (while not terrorists) have been putting ordinary Muslims under bondage while their own children get into prestigious schools here or abroad. – no different from Osama, except the killings.

    Our Pervez and Rizwan have been aggressively pushing the need for education (for all, including Muslims) and presenting why Muslims should ignore the constant backward push by their so called community leaders

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    In sharp contrast to Parvez and Rizwan, two jehadis here want to push Muslims onto a backward isolationist path.

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    engrich Reply:

    i can only laugh on u.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You should look at the mirror and say, “what a moron ” and then laugh.

    Go to the doorstpes of Rizwan and Pervez and beg. “Give me wisdom..”

    engrich Reply:

    Muslims should ignore the constant backward push by their so called community leaders
    in most of muslim country education is free upto highest level .before lecturing muslims or muslim leaders ,u should know that education is luxury and out of reach of poors.muslims are pushed to poverty.
    islam is for education and education to eveybody not only for brhmns.whenever they get chance they take it.even in riad saudi goverments are opening best colleges and universities,where accomodation food and education is free like in other agcc countries.south indian muslims are doing better in field education as compare to north for this reason.

    if u are really sincere ask for general free education as fundamental right of every indian.
    poverty is biggest enemy of education.
    also ask death sentence for economic defender kasab has 50 these people are killing millions.

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  • Ravi

    Gopi

    Many have complemented you on your knowledge of Gita, I myself admire your ability to recall appropriate श्लोक as befits the context.

    I understand that in MP and in Karnataka, Gita has been re-classified as a book on Indian Philosophy rather than a religious book.

    What is your opinion on this matter?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gita is a part of indian philosophy; no foreign hand in this – has been there long before we categorized a group of people “Hindus” .

    I am of the opinion that it should be taught all across Indian schools on the righteous living, dharma . It does not say you should follow a religion.

    I also believe that Ramayana, Mahabharatha etc are not religious books, they should be treated like Iliad, Odyssey

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    Really well said.

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    Ravi Reply:

    That is interesting to hear.

    So if,

    Bible is the religious book of Christians.

    Quran is the religious book of Muslims.

    Sri Guru Granth Sahib is the religious book of the Sikhs.

    These people swear on these religious books.

    In similar way which book(s) is the religious book of Hindus?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, they do not have any book to follow or swear on.. They can follow Bible, Grandh Sahib, Quran, Gita, tree, sun, whatever..

    In fact I would bet that 99.9% of Hindus never read Gita..

    And I would say the reason Indians/Hindus have been so adaptable and accommodative is precisely due to the absence of religious dos and donts. No Friday mosque, no Sunday mass, no Mullah, no “father”..Totally free

    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    One could say, millions of Christians also do not read the bible.

    Such is the nature of individual liberty.

    My understanding is that appearance in a court of law requires one to take an oath, in India, Hindu’s are offered the Gita for this purposes. This offer is made under the assumption that Gita is a religious book.

    Just as in the UK one is expected to (but not compelled to) hold the Bible in one hand while swearing an oath. Other religious books are also allowed, here is an example Hindu Oath on the Gita

    I swear by the Gita that the evidence I shall give shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

    I believe that Gita is generally accepted as a religious book of the Hindus.

    Therefore introducing the study of Gita in state schools in MP and Karnataka, is against the secular constitution of India.

    Let the abuse begin….

    Anonymous Reply:

    ravi-
    no,, no on all counts.
    you may be right in the statement that millions of Christians may not have read Bible. But I bet 99.9% of Christians have read their denomination’s bibles – although in Europe church attendance is going down. No Hindu temple worship has any Gita reading attached with it.

    No swearing takes place in Indian courts based on any book, Gita or Quran or Bible..It is only in Bollywood movies.

    Swearing on “books” started with Moguls. They wanted Hidus to take oath by touching Ganges water or Gita, and Muslims by Quran. This continued till 1873, when Britsh passed the Indian Oath Act to give evidence on ’solemn affirmation” without needing any book.

    1969 Indian Oath Act based on the 28th Report of THE Law Commission further rEvamped eliminating the book requiremenT that was applicable to non Hindu/non Muslim religious followers.

    The only requirement now is “I do swear in the name of God/solemnly affirm…….” no book.

    I have many relatives in the legal profession, including the first woman High court judge in India (she is dead and gone long ago). They all say the “book” is only in Hindi movies.

    The only remnant of Gita in the Indian legal system is the inscription on the Supreme Court building ;; “Yato Dharma Stato Jaya” – in fact , technically, it is not from Gita, but from Mahabharatha…

    Duryodhan goes to Gandhari’s quarters to get her blessings the evening before the Kuruskshetra war – Gandhari does not bless him with victory, but makes the statement “”yatho Dharma Statho Jaya” — where there is Dharma there is victory, or victory will be achieved only by righteous people”

    Ravi Reply:

    You did not answer if it is GENRALLY accepted, the world over, that Gita indeed is a Religious Book of the Hindus.

    It is revealed by God, via Krishna.

    AshishC Reply:

    Gopi,
    respect. Copying and pasting and sending to my daughter to read.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    . I was also under the impression that swearing on religios books in court actual happens. Thanks vm. Brilliant post.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree. In spite of this, you will still find many who wish to impose their sole version on the rest of populace, but have rightly been rebuffed (go pray somewhere else).

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Manohar

    But dont you end up supporting people who say my book is final and even if there are half truths in the book and sheer bullshit if examined scientifically. The right for relgious freedom is for your own freedom to follow your path. Not for imposing fatwas on people who may want to commit apostasy by jumping out of the path or questioning what is written there.

    And I say it for all religions… not just for the one you may be thinking I am aiming at.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree. In spite of this, you will still find many who wish to impose their sole version on the rest of populace, but have rightly been rebuffed (go pray somewhere else).

    engrich Reply:

    can u name the religious books of hindus.vedas are not supposed to be touched by women and shudras(85%).

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  • Anonymous

    Govt approves change in names of 25 towns

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Govt-approves-change-in-names-of-25-towns/articleshow/11859587.cms

    Shakespeare may have said what’s in the name but for the Home Ministry it is a matter of sentiments of millions as it had approved renaming of 25 towns across the country during the last decade.

    In Kerala, the highest number of 17 towns were renamed, followed by Punjab, where the Centre approved the change of names in four towns, besides two in Odisha.

    Though the Home Ministry approved the change of names in two towns in Madhya Pradesh, it rejected the proposal of renaming capital Bhopal as Bhojpal.

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    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    Is India actually in need of British patronage?
    Swapan Dasgupta

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/right-and-wrong/entry/is-india-actually-in-need-of-british-patronage

    Excerpt

    There was a time in the mid-1970s when every Indian was eyed with suspicion as a potential illegal over-stayer by the immigration officers at Heathrow. Those were the days when the salespeople in upmarket establishments paid no heed to the shabbily dressed Indian shopper. They focused on rich Americans, Arabs and, of course, the Japanese tourist. Sometime in the early-1980s, i recall visiting an Indian banker staying at the Savoy and being asked by the supercilious receptionist: “Does he work in the kitchen?”

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  • Anonymous

    @ Gopi

    Frankly and frankly religious books can only be indicative. The whole world starts fighting the moment they believe their book is the final word.

    Here is a list of questions which should be asked of people who are fighting to impose their religoius book as a truth which cannot be questioned.

    a) Is the earth flat or round? Check your book which you call the final word and give the answer from ur beloved book

    b) how is a child born. CHeck your book and answer this.

    c) Does the sun move around the earth or the earth move around the sun?

    All these strictures and decrees of death are bloody bullshit. The state giving reservation along religious lines is just sanctifying this bullshit.

    If you choose to believe in your book… just think that some good writer of that era wrote it with good intention. It has some good guiding points.That is it.

    By the way I respect the right of every one to follow their own chosen relgion. But I reject the right of anyone to kill or torture anybody in their fold who wants to expose the bullshit in religion.

    What galileo did centuries back…

    religion can only be sensible in case it keeps evolving. When we respect life and this earth.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay.

    Agree with you that religions can only be sensible if they keep evolving.
    Since that is not happening, most of the religions will remain senseless.
    Humanity should be the only religion .

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  • Anonymous

    @ Gopi

    Frankly and frankly religious books can only be indicative. The whole world starts fighting the moment they believe their book is the final word.

    Here is a list of questions which should be asked of people who are fighting to impose their religoius book as a truth which cannot be questioned.

    a) Is the earth flat or round? Check your book which you call the final word and give the answer from ur beloved book

    b) how is a child born. CHeck your book and answer this.

    c) Does the sun move around the earth or the earth move around the sun?

    All these strictures and decrees of death are bloody bullshit. The state giving reservation along religious lines is just sanctifying this bullshit.

    If you choose to believe in your book… just think that some good writer of that era wrote it with good intention. It has some good guiding points.That is it.

    By the way I respect the right of every one to follow their own chosen relgion. But I reject the right of anyone to kill or torture anybody in their fold who wants to expose the bullshit in religion.

    What galileo did centuries back…

    religion can only be sensible in case it keeps evolving. When we respect life and this earth.

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  • Anonymous

    Manohar-

    Changing the names of towns is OK. However, there are more “pressing” changes; one being another legacy (in addition to names) of the British , the Civil Administration/police adm system..

    It is also interesting while the city/town names are being changed, more and more Indian children are being named, or nicknamed Bobby/Kevin/Vik/Nick (although in Kerala many Christians are moving to Suresh, Ramesh, Ajith etc)…

    However , changing the town names has a potential troubling aspect — what if we are not content with pre British names, and want to go back to pre-Islamic invasion? Ahmedabad, Aurangabad ?????,

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    Ravi Reply:

    Where would Patliputra be.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Patna is Pataliputra…I will recommend to rename .

    Indraprastha is a mythological name.

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    engrich Reply:

    original name of patna is azeemabad.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @Engrich

    And ur original name is “Pakistani dhakkan ” :)

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    At the time of Patliputra, Islam was not born. Azeems had not come to India of that time.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,
    You have no idea about mankind. All humans are born muslims and Islam is the oldest religion. Prophet Adam (whosoever he was) was also muslim.

    Ravi Reply:

    I would not mind if both names were changed

    Though it will be a backward looking activity of no practical advantage other than reminding everyone of the regressive nature of the change

    Anonymous Reply:

    Changing names of towns/cities, streets, etc. is not a good move if you ask me. It serves no beneficial purpose, except massage the ‘egos’ of some sections of the people. It has always been a foolish thing to do, if you ask me.

    1) It has shades of rewriting history in an attempt to
    obliterate unwanted past and association. You know who I am referring to.

    2) It probably kills the brand equity of the name that may have been built over the years. Bombay is the classic example. In addition, half the people in the city itself still call/refer it as Bombay. The city has never been the same under its new name.

    3) Especially when the new name is longer than the old name, people prefer to stick to the old one. It is a question of economy with syllables.

    Examples, Victoria Terminus and generally called by its abbreviation VT in Bombay was named Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus and shortened to CST many years ago. Except officially, the station is still referred to as VT and that includes Bus Conductors, Taxi Drivers and the people at large. Marine Drive – the signature road of the city was named Netaji Subhash Road way back in 1956. It has never been called by the new name, except perhaps for postal address purposes. There are many example galore. When the roads and monuments named after our own heroes and icons, it turns into an insult to the memory our icons- people simply do not care, if it is going to be bothersome to pronounce.

    Ask a person in Bombay/Mumbai, where Pandit D V Paluskar Chowk is and most would start scratching their heads. Ask him instead where Opera House is and he will probably tell you more than one way to get there.

    4) AFAIK, the British did not change the names of any town/cities too drastically, except vary them phonetically to be easy on the tongue (for themselves and us alike) – Thiruvananthpuram to Trivandrum and Udhagamandalam to Ootacamund (further shortened to Ooty from Udhagai) are just two examples. We have officially reverted to the original in most cases. In the second example above, how many call the place by any other name than Ooty? May be we can count them on our fingers tips.

    5) In the latest list, Mhow the army town in MP has also been renamed
    a longer name. It was established by the British and Mhow stands for Military Headquarters of War. I doubt it will be referred by the longer name Ambedkarnagar when Mhow is so convenient on the tongue.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,
    I basically disagree with renaming business unless a city or place is renamed back to its original name. If British established Madras and Calcutta then we have no business renaming these cities because they already have original name.
    However ancient city like Patna can be renamed to original name.

    As far as CST is concerned, there is trend in Mumbai to name everything after Shivaji. The mumbai airport is also name after Shivaji. If we name everything after Shivaji, even google map and local paan shop will get confused.

    In UP, mayawati has renamed more than thousand villages as Ambedkar Gram. Just think about difficulties faced by postal department.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajeev

    Agree.
    These basta— should build new structures if they want to name Shivaji this or that…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You’ll be surprised to know that the British named many of the roads in Delhi and other towns after the Chcha, taaya , bhatija of the gora on deputation here under the queen.

    Delhi’s red light area– GB Road– i.e Gariston bariston road is the lasting contribution od a Scotsman–one mR garistaon– who put his tent there and stayed there with the whores. So much for the santicty of the Goras, Shan loves and their actions here.

    Yes we should not change names with and Indian flavour — but no harm in knocking of Chelmsford or Wellesley– who were minor underlINGAMS of the Raj

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In greater Noida, an imaginatvie CEo named all the roads after flowers and trees.

    Like Gulmohar Avenue, Poplar street, Amaltas crossing.

    Sounds much better than Kanshi ram road or Kamala nehru crossing

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Sounds much better than Kanshi ram road or Kamala nehru crossing”
    Or even Pandit Din Dayal Upadhyay road , Savarkar Marg etc.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mahesh

    Absolutely right. I am very clear that roads and buildings can only be named after nationally accepted figures who are acceptable to all.

    In this context you should check out the quantum and numbers named after those in one family.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Friends,

    Few months back, we had a brief discussion on Spiritualism. I stopped after only one or two posts as I felt it would be boring to most of bloggers here. I thought of bringing the subject back . If someone here is interested, we can have some discussions on the same. I am hopeful that it will also help bringing down tempers in this blog.

    Actually, English word “Spiritualism” must have come from “Spirits”. Spiritualism earlier must have signified something to do with Christian concept of Spirits. However in its current usage and due to heavy influence of Hindu philosophy, it has come closer to Indian concept .

    To start with, I am very uncomfortable in using word Hinduism and Hindu. It starts looking like another religion akin to Islam, Christianity and Judaism and its followers, Hindus akin to Muslims, Christians and Jews. There is a conceptual difference in thrust of Philosophies originated from India and from Israel-Arab area. If we call above Abrahmnic traditions as Religion , then traditions from India can not be called Religion and vice versa. For the purpose of ease of writing, I will refer Hinduism to all prominent Indian originated traditions which are generally clubbed under Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism( In any case, there is hardly anything different in any of above traditions except some emphasis).

    Basic questions which have been asked repeatedly over last thousands of years in this country. Who am I?,Who are we ?What is this nature around us? Is there any purpose of Life? If yes, then what is it? Is there any God like thing and what is its form and attributes? If there is any God, then what is our relation to it? Many answers have been given on above questions, many variations of same answers have also been provided.

    There are some answers which have been consistently reiterated. One of them is “Purpose / Aim of an ideal life should be God realization”. Various paths which many past travellers have trodden for this purpose have been explained, but emphasis is on finding your own path. Earlier paths are only reference points. There is no exact solution which will fit in every travellers quest. It is also advised that God realization can not be achieved by pure logic alone. It needs a good amount of intuitive understanding. However nothing should contradict logic.I have tried to develop my own understanding of God/World. I will try to explain this , even though it is difficult to explain with pure logic.

    I have experienced it many times, when mind is still or singularly focused, one is in a rudimentary meditative or quasi meditative state, many things suddenly become clear ( I am not still talking about deeper meditative states). Things which may have eluded you all this time, suddenly are clear. This is traces of Intuition surfacing. Our present education system , which is modeled on European system lays total emphasis on Logic. It is a good system, much better than systems where blind faiths and superstitions are mingled. However, total emphasis on logic kills intuition. I believe we need to nurture both Logic and Intuition in right proportions. There is no contradiction between these two . Few years back, I came across a book “ Silva Mind Control Method”. It sort of confirmed my opinion and understanding. Here was an American with no Asian influence, was coming around to similar concepts on intuition independently. One more interesting thing that Silva informed, most of his trainers have become vegetarians, this is when there has been no influence at all of India or Indians. Most of his trainers and students are Europeans and Americans . Different people can follow their path in quest for higher things and arrive at similar destinations. Well , this intuition is important for our higher understanding.

    I consider everything originating from Super consciousness. Many can call it as God, but since word God is used mostly in a duality form i.e. I am different from some entity which is called God, hence I would prefer to call it Super Consciousness or more appropriately “Param Brahman”. Only Param Brahman (PB in short) can be absolute, everything else is only relative. World that we see or visualize in only a manifestation of this PB. In this world also, everything is relative. We can get certain answers only by imposing limits. Outside those limits, the same answers have no validity. Concept and application of limits is very important. When I attend my profession, act for my home, my community or country, it is only by consideration of certain limits. If I change limits and start acting on same things, it would be total stupidity.

    World that we know is part of an infinite Universe. , It is also infinite both in its largeness and smallness. There are no Miracles in this world. Everything works as per set rules/formulas. However , there are lot of things which are presently outside our understanding which look like Miracles. There is a beautiful book “ Living among Himalayan Masters” by Swami Ram. It tells us in story form many so called Miracles, which in actual are not Miracles. These are Siddhis acquired by spiritual Masters. These Siddhis have been hinted at in Patanjalis Yog Sutra also .

    I think that would be more than enough for today.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Aaloke;
    At one plane, I would like to accept the existence of God. That will make life so simple. All the failures/ successes of self, one can attribute to God and that will solve many uncomfortable situations. But at this point, I feel, it is our genes, who are evolving for may be hundreds of millions of year, and are shared by every living creature, bring us to share that collective experience in the form of dormant memories, going that far in evolution, which are suppressed by education and other slef reforming activities of society. In meditation, one is just releasing/ getting nearer to that collective wisdom/ experience. Is that making any sense?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    God is nothing but fear of unknown.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Naqshbandi , tera jawb nahi

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Bengali..always ready to help.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Have you heard of CLONING , Dolly the sheep, created from the SKIN of the same sheep. HUMAN BEINGS ARE HUMAN BEINGS only because the FRONTALCORTEX is MASSIVE in relation to the body size. Human beings are INFERIOR in several areas.Running , try competing with a cheetah , as my anatomy prof inNRS medical college used to say HAS ANYBODY HEARD OF DISLOCATED SHOULDER IN A TIGER OR LION. despite that massive stress while running.
    Also THINKING IS NOT UNIQUE TO HUMANS.
    There was a fascinating programme in BBC2.
    There is a particular variety of bird inFlorida
    Talking of birds JUST THINK WHAT GPS THE BIRDS USE TO REACH FROM SIBERIA TO CALCUTTA ZOO IN WINTER AND THEN GO BACK AGAIN
    These birds in florida subsists only on Acorn.Now in winter there is no acorn.
    So the birds to survive the winter , dig holes and store acorns to see them through the winter. NOW THE FASCINATING BIT.
    Apparently there is a predatory bird who STEALS these Acorns hidden by this bird. So what this bird does is they hide the Acorn in the soil , but AFTER A WHILE MOVE IT TO ANOTHER SITE , so that the predator bird that is watching is FOOLED.
    BIRDS DO NOT HAVE ANY SUPERCONSCIOUSNESS.
    ALL THIS PARAM BRAMHA IS SIMPLY UTTER BOLLOCKS
    BEFORE PARAM BRAMHA AND SUPERCONSCIOUSNESS LET THE BRAMHINS EMBRACE A DALIT

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Aaloke–

    In connection with your reference to each on “its own way/their own path” of finding self realization, I want to bring my theory/ or an observation.

    USA produces super brilliant scientists, and theorists, India consistently from time immemorial has produced brilliant “evolved” (or spiritual) people . I think the root cause is the same thing. In US super bright kids are on their schedule, setting their own pace, choosing their own texts/books, under the guidance of a good teacher/guide. They are not restricted to specific curriculum, syllabus, time frame etc, they are free to pursue their physics or chemistry or social sciences the way they see.

    However, they have not produced great philosophers, “gurus” – i attribute it to the rigidity they have from a young age – that you should go to church on Sundays, that “this is wrong and that is right”, the notion of sin, the religious pressure to fit in with one set of politics etc without leaving any room for “out of the box” thinking which they promote in their schools for science and literature.

    In contrast, in India, the few (from the non-abrahamic sects) who gets attracted to a “self realization/great teacher/guru/why I am I here type” path sets his own path, his own books, his own schedules, his own guide like the super science student of US. No temple attractss him, no priest has the knowledge to guide him. The end result is that he becomes a “super Guru”, like the brilliant student in US who becomes a super scientist…

    And since we do not have the unrestricted intellectual pursuit in our schools (one has to adhere to rules, specific books, specific exams etc) we do not produce as many brilliant scientific minds as in the US

    Just a theory ….

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  • Anonymous

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    ~~ sanctifying bullshit through RELIGIOUS RESERVATIONS ~~~ !!
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    @ Rizwan

    You had asked me pointed question on what I think of reservation along religious lines and I had given you one half of my answer.

    That this will divide the society along religious lines and sow the seeds of communal hatred.

    And now let this Colum-bum show his rational, intellectual glow which DPS RKP should learn from us… I had refrained from this as I am not the sort who promotes religious hatred. But then the dog inside me will not be at peace… unless I bark this out !

    But before I do it let me say frankly that I dont mean this against any religion, Not Hindus, Not Islam, Not Christians, Not Sikhs. And to clarify further, there is much I hate in my own religion. Like Caste, superstition or re-incarnation theories. My view is that religion should just be a guiding indicative factor. No book ever can be the final word. It needs to keep evolving.

    In case there is reservation on religious lines, then we would be giving a constitutional status and sanctity to what is written in the book. Well the world is round and the book says it is flat… then the constitution will not dare to challenge the book.

    And when it comes to human and women’s right the book willl win.

    Well in case the book says that God created the world… in seven days or got it out of the heaven we will stop looking at the dinosaurs bones and the government of India will say that they are not to be looked at… as the Saudia government says it…

    So it is better that we keep relgion away from the constitution….

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ditto here.
    Reservations on religious line is very regressive move. Need of the hour is to support bright children of every community, who are economically disadvantaged. Poor peasants, artisans and landless laboureres, who have access to primary education, and that should be right of every child and totally free, should be given economic support to pursue higher studies, middle level onwards. This will create level field for society.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Pankaj

    Absolutely right ! I think we end up debating and arguing in this country.

    But in the end have started to do destructive things whic will take us onto jinnah’s path.

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  • Ravi

    Rizwan

    No matter how strong an urge a dog feels it has to bark, it has no excuse for spewing half-baked Bull-Shit.

    When some-one sets aside some Reservations aimed at Muslim’s, then it is not based upon any scriptural reason. No Reservation is attached to any single or totality of THEOLOGY of Islam, it is GENERICALLY reserved for MUSLIMs. Apart from pathetic Vote Bank Politics (which by the way cuts both ways) the reservation is to counter internal backwardness and any discrimination by the majority. State has an obligation to counter the apparently self-imposed regressive practices Muslims in India.

    That at least is the theory; I fully accept that arguments can be made both in favour as well as against it. I have previously registered my favour of reservations for EVRYONE who is at a dis-advantage. In that respect I support Reservations for OBCs and Dalits alike.

    Lets not forget, we have reservations for Armed Forces, Railway Employees, Police Force, the BSF, Government Employees, etc.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You will not understand becasue your mind is filled with rape rape.

    And despite feeble atempts at humour, you can never understand self deprecating wit. Pity you.

    The idea I am forwarding is to let Muslims qualify for th reservations on basis of backwardness and NOT religion with a 9% exclusive quota. No country has it. Only India will take this regressive step curtesy people with constipated intellects and no vision and not even a sense of histroy on what separate electorate lead to.

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  • pankaj#1

    Manohar;
    Reprimanding some one is not the right thing to do. That authority is with Boss or Wife(Ha) only as my parents are no more there. But I can always appreciate any body who is trying to maintain decorum of this blog.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj

    Never mind. Forget it. I understand your predicament. My apologies for making such a request in he first place.

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  • pankaj#1

    Gopi;
    Find it very amusing. Some one is asking you about what is religious book of hindus?? Wow, The concerned person knows all about religious books of different faiths but is ignorant about hinduism, or knows only negative aspects of it. Still claiming to be of Indian Origin???

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    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    BJP, in MP and in Karnataka, has declared that Gita is not a religious book, but a book on Indian Philosophy.

    I am of the opinion that Gita is a Religious Book and it is offered to Hindus in the UK, who wish to take a religious oath in a court of law.

    The said person claims to be educated. I have severe doubts and have had them for a while.

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    engrich Reply:

    this is trick to teach gita in schools.gita established castes and glorified brhmnsm.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Precisely. It is also an attempt to change the effect of India’s secular constitution.

    Anonymous Reply:

    changing “secular character” by 9%.

    Anonymous Reply:

    When people take false oath on their parents, kids, god etc. then what is so important about religious book?

    The only difference between Hindus and others is that hindus have no regard for their religious books whether it is Gita or Ramayana or Mahabharata. The only thing that appeals to hindus is survival and self-interest.

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  • pankaj#1

    Again Modinama is being opened here. Is this sour grapes or hidden hatred for a very successful administrator? Center has advised Modi not to invite Chinese delegation to Gujrat siting some differences between Gujrati traders and Chineses traders and non cooperative attitude of that Governor. Ha? Indian Government prostrating itself before Chinese and want a very brisk engagement between two countries. What else is dpouble standard.

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  • Anonymous

    What is Blasphemy?
    Character assassination of HISTORICAL religious figure but stating facts that are taken from religious sources can not be termed Blasphemy. Most of the facts stated about Mohammad come from Islamic sources (Hadiths, Bukhari, Quran, muslim scholars). How is it blasphemy?

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    engrich Reply:

    history of hindu gods is far worse.so is it nrccesary to repeat it on every occasion.history of prophet(pbuh)does not come from holy quran.u can discuss his thoughts.not bedroom events.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    then why are you repeat-ultying abuse?

    And why “peace be upon him”, when he is already in heaven?

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    engrich Reply:

    ce be upon him

    this is how we pay respect to somebody whom we consider as our father.why u are worried.u have not to write anything

    .then why are you repeat-ultying abuse?

    i am not using bad language now.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Remember hindu gods are myth..

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  • Anonymous

    The religion of Hindus. WELL FOLKS ACCORDING TO PROF DAWKINS , HINDUISM IS NOT A RELIGION IN A CONVENIONAL SENSE, it is more of an ETHICALCODE.
    Ravi would do well to read wendy doniger his demigod.
    REMEMBER CHARBAK also heads a strand of hinduism WHICH SAYS THERE IS NO GOD, the only purpose of life is to live to its full INCLUDING CARNAL
    PLEASURES
    Also the whole business of GOD is left open in Hinduism , that is why it is said
    THOU ART GOD
    Tat Tvam Asi (Sanskrit: तत् त्वम् असि or तत्त्वमसि), a Sanskrit sentence, translated variously as “That thou art,” “Thou art that,” “You are that,” or “That you are,” is one of the Mahāvākyas (Grand Pronouncements) in Vedantic Sanatana Dharma. It originally occurs in the Chandogya Upanishad 6.8.7,[1] in the dialogue between Uddalaka and his son Śvetaketu; it appears at the end of a section, and is repeated at the end of the subsequent sections as a refrain. The meaning of this saying is that the Self – in its original, pure, primordial state – is wholly or partially identifiable or identical with the Ultimate Reality that is the ground and origin of all phenomena
    GITA IS NOT REVEALED WISDOM BY GOD , Ravi is talking PORKY
    IT IS A CHAPTER IN MAHABHARATA , when Arjuna asks LORD KRISHNA , WHO CAN HE KILL ALL HIS KITH AND KIN, Krishna gives a COMMENTARY , and that is GITA. Some bit of is interesting SOME DOWNRIGHT ****

    A WORD OR TWO ABOUT THE HACKNEYED TOPIC OF MODI
    Just because no one wants to face the TRUTH , they pick the soft target MODI
    And the fact is GUJRATI HINDUS HATE GUJRATI MUSLIMS
    RSS Bajrang dal and ORDINARY GUJRATIS WERE THE MAIN CHARACTERS
    in the FRENZY and the carnage.
    MODI WANTED MUSLIMS TO BE TAUGHT A LESSON , BUT HE DID NOT PLAN IT AND HE DID NOT REALISE IT WILL GO OUT OF HAND .
    IT IS A REPLICA OF ANTI SIKH RIOTS , MOB PSYCHOLOGY REIGNED IN BOTH SITUATION.
    CONgress wants to keep it FESTERING for scoring electoral gains.
    HOW ABOUT ALL THE TATAS AMBANIS SUCKING UP TO MODI

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shan;
    Only first two lines of yours. Could not resist to post as I was keen to contest often quoted Wendy by one person. Wendy Doniger book is in my personal collection and Chicago is not very from where I live. Wendy has very clearly said that as hindus did not keep much written records in begining, most of the ancient literature was passed to next generation orally which is open to inclusion of myths, self interest (mostly brahmins’) and misinterretation. She has never criticised hindus per se. I strongly abhore communal violence of any and every description but look at the background of simmering discontent amongs Gujrati masses. Kalupur, Dariyapur areas had bcome forts of anti National Dons. They were in open connivance with Daud and other shady characters. Do not remember, whether Akshardham had happened before or after Godhara, but history of communal riots is long, probably from 60s and masses had enough because congress was reluctant to do justice to governance at the altar of vote politics. Things have not improved even now and any party who does communal or casteist politics is enemy of nation.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I had visited Chicago. Saw SEARS TOWER, did you know the architect is a bangladeshi muslim settled in USA.
    Lake Michigan is breathtaking , why they call it lake , looks like a sea without waves.
    VERY SEGREGATED THOUGH , blacks in one area , the rest in another. ALSO AMERICA IS OVERWHELMING TO YOUR SENSES

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan-
    It is Fazlur Rehman ,,,,
    Well, Chicago is reasonably well integrated now, though South side between 30th and 60th streets is predominantly poor blacks, except the university of chicago/ Hyde Park enclave,,
    An inteersting thought about Lake Michigan — what if water becomes a rare commodity — who will have the largest fresh water resource?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Russia..
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Baikal

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shan;
    Overwhelming is the right word. At Naval pier, there are canals which take boats to people’s residence inland,( not very far) and people dock them, take lift and go to their aprtments. In Chicago also people will keep( not individually) but in hangers, their planes in a neighbourhood and in little time reach to their hangers and flyout. Even I had an opportunity to fly ( as a passanger only) in a friend’s plane near Goldengate bridge in San Fransisco. Nothing to brag about but it overwhelmes one’s senses, when one reaches to US from crowded Indian cities. Though still miss my addas and Chabutaras.

    engrich Reply:

    Do not remember, whether Akshardham had happened before or after Godhara, but history of communal

    Akshardham and godhra both were planned and executed by modi and his gang to justify riot.

    after Akshardham ms gill,police officer sent to gujrat to control ,resigned and left gujrat.pankaj u are totally brainwashed by
    rss.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Shan

    I have read her book Hindu, I possess a copy.

    But our friend BV Shenoy, does not think she is an eminent professor.

    She being white and non-Indian, she is persona non-grata on this blog.

    Only RSS pamphlets are authentic and speak the truth.

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    engrich Reply:

    MODI WANTED MUSLIMS TO BE TAUGHT A LESSON

    he wanted to crush them so that their lands can be aquired at throw away prices and sold to industrialist at market rate.he was using petty muslim gundaas and state police to extract money from hindu traders.evrything for money.this is called brhmnsm.

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  • Anonymous

    Former RSS activist held for Samjhauta bombing

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2886511.ece?homepage=true

    Excerpt

    Kamal Chauhan, NIA sources have told The Hindu, is believed to be one of the four men who planted incendiary devices on the Lahore-bound train on February 18, 2007, killing 68 people.

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  • Anonymous

    An interesting tidbit…

    The local Calicut University is celebrating the 330 year anniversary of a botany book written in Dutch language about the herbal and medicinal/ayurvedic plants of kerala.
    “Hortus Indicus Malabaricus” , a 12 volume book series on these medicinal plants was written in 1678-1685 by Hendrick Van Rheede, the Dutch governor of Malabar with the help of local ayurvedic “physicians, Itti Achuthan, Ranga Bhat, Vinayak Pandit…

    I was not aware of this.

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  • Anonymous

    @Dear Rajeev,

    God has been used to cover fear of unknown. Most religions have originated and have been spun around this .I was trying to discuss things beyond conventional religions.

    I was not mentioning God in the conventional way. I have explained its reason also. I used “Param Brahman”( not Param Bramha) because of this reason. Concept of God with its dualist approach which is central to Abrahmnic traditions has somehow become predominant concept. Even in Hindu traditions, this approach is there, but we have many other very strong traditions which have different approach. Traditions of Advaita , Samkhya ( it is dualist to some extent but with entirely different concept ), Buddhism, Jainism to name a few.Actually, Buddhism and Jainism deliberately do not discuss nature of God, but general trend is similar to Advaita. Here Param Brahman is absolute, every other thing ( Animate or Inanimate) is only manifestation of PB. This concept goes very well with our present day understanding of Science and researches that are being undertaken at frontiers of Science.

    @Dear Pankaj,

    One is, necessity of creating god for our convenience. Most of the times, this is what has been done. However I am not discussing based on WHAT WE WANT, but WHAT COULD BE THERE. It is like researching on Pure Science. Here concern is not to look at its application. It is to increase our understanding of a subject. It may lead to some useful application, but that is incidental.

    Your idea of our Evolution and dormant memories are right. However lets extend this evolution to the very source, the very base. Which in my view is PB. So in our very deep meditative state, we relate to this very source.
    @ Dear Shan,

    I could not understand the thrust of your post. The story on Birds was not required. As I have mentioned above, every Animate and Inanimate thing has super consciousness. This includes Humans, Birds as also Stones. Only degree of its manifestation varies. I think there is confusion in understanding concept of Super consciousness. It is not concept of Intelligence which is used in Biological studies.

    You have also made a strange and illogical statement, but unfortunately ,this similar statements are very much prevalent now a days.

    BEFORE PARAM BRAMHA AND SUPERCONSCIOUSNESS LET THE BRAMHINS EMBRACE A DALIT.

    If Ican take example from your field, which I understand is Surgery. If there is a very knowledgeable senior surgeon in your field, he has devised new , revolutionary and path breaking techniques in his field, he has published many papers which are being universally admired. Now this person is also racist to the core, he is also very rude to others. Now will you deny his achievements, do not study and use his techniques just because of his other human failings. If you do that, then you are a fool and only you are a looser. You may do that due to your inferiority complex or childishness. A wiser method would be to avoid that persons faults, but gain and use his knowledge.

    There is a very good story that is related during spiritual discourses on how to let go of your emotions.

    Two young Sanyasis are walking through a Jungle. They reach a small rivulet which has swollen with recent rains. On the bank is one beautiful young village girl who also has to cross this river, but is not able to do so because of strong currents. One of the Sanyasi on seeing this lifts this girl, wades through the strong water current and drops the Girl on other side. Other Sanyasi also crosses the rivulet and both Sanyasi start walking again in their direction. Now this other Sanyasi is very furious with the Sanyasi who had lifted the girl. He starts lecturing him on how a Sanyasi should keep himself away from sense objects particularily from opposite sex. This lecturing keeps on going for another 1-2 hours. In the meanwhile they have crossed quite a distance also. Now Sanyasi who had lifted the girl replies very calmly, I held that girl and left her on the other side, but you are still holding on to that girl.

    I find something similar is happening here. So called Brahmins are dropping inequality of castes , but there are others who are hell bent on holding on to Caste inequalities, all in the name of helping eradicate Caste inequality. Like Congress has been fighting on Garibi Hatao for last 65 years. However, if poverty is really removed, they will not know what to do. So, they might as well maintain Poverty.

    Knowledge stored by Brahmins is not their knowledge. They may have only helped in its preservation. It is knowledge of our common ancestors. Infact, any knowledge is universal.

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  • engrich

    ravibhai,shan and benoy hegde,

    http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1843.cfm

    very ibteresting and informative.must read.

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  • Anonymous

    Did the regular media allies , and we know who they are , of the Congress Party get that share in the budget for Paid News? The way the entire media , Print and Electronic , space has been taken over by the Promoter family of the Congress Party and not 1 col cm to the campaining of the other parties , it is quite obvious that the Congress has used its unmatched financial muscle to buy the Political Space s all newspapers . After all it is a do or die battle for its Rahul Gandhi. No weapon should be left untested.
    But is the darshan which the country had of the Promoter Family complete ? No …No… The country did have darshan of the cho chweet Priyanka Gandhi , her husband …. who can win an election from anywhere in the country ,… her two kids .. but what about her pet Kutta , Billi , Tota and Maina. Should they have not been there on the stage for the fawning Partymen to Garland ?… After they are also family

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    Anonymous Reply:

    one with gold writes the golden rule!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Praveen

    Just been travelling to 60 km radius inside UP from Delhi. Seems everything is back to UP as we know it. Its all about caste and religion, as always.

    Sitting in a chai shop at a way side Dhaba…these are my conclusions. Let me tell you I am intelligent enough not to voice at out my political views at chai dhabas !

    The COngress has managed to make some headway. The Muslim owner of the dhaba felt that Rahul G’s announcement of reservations and his sympathy for Azamgarh had stirred up things.

    Iqbal, my right hand at construction sites felt that Muslims still had a soft corner for Mulayam and would go back to him.

    Two Yadav brothers sipping tea felt that Mulayam SIngh’s rule had given diginity to Upiites and his time had been good. They would vote for him in Etawah. Akhilesh was a new youth icon and since he had been educated abroad would do things better.

    BSP had the support of the Chai server. “Behnji has done bahut development…” he murmured as cleaned our table.

    His views were dittoed by a contractor who had worked at a Mayawati memorial sites.

    The BJP was absent from the discussion and probably its campaign has been a study on “how not to fight elections.”

    It does not have a face. The COngress hasd Rahul, SP has Yadav father and son and BSP is all Mayawati. BJP has no presence on the road and no slogans to attract people in this elections.

    In a nutshell. Its all about caste and community appeal. Further on the youth will split between Akhilesh and Rahul. The Urban male would go BJP.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    You could be right or wrong. Cant say… as the mood changes every few kms in UP. But what we still do not know is where that extra 15 /20 % votes being cast this time are going.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    My contention is that to fight elections you need a face as a CM or PM. The Congress has taken care of it by projecting Rahul. The BJP got in Uma who has no base in UP.

    You stay in NOida as I understand. What is your reading as far as NOida goes. Yesterday I was in Noida. Got similar feedback there..

    Anonymous Reply:

    To be honest Vijay I have no idea. After the delimitation of the constituencies ..very difficult. Even the version I get form some friends in the Authority , keeps changing. We shall have to wait for 6 March

    Anonymous Reply:

    But UP performs well below potential all because it has become too huge and electorate can only be wooed using caste and communal issues.

    Anonymous Reply:

    viju

    Whatever happens in UP, I hope BJP will get its act together for the Lok Sabha elections.. a leader, a mission, a manifesto…..not just asking for somebody’s resignation

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think you said it a long time back on this blog. You need a young smart face with an agenda which gets people interested.
    ANd you need money and machenery to be on the roads.

    Right now there is an anti-Congress mood in the country. The NDA will really have to be on the roads with clear defined faces to cash on it.

    Otherwsie…

  • Anonymous

    Dear Aaloke , you are using the “old chestnut” Param bramha and superconsciousness , or in other words HINDU ADWAITA philosophy
    as the last word. . PROF HAWKINS HAVE SAID
    WITH SUPER STRING THEORY ,THEIR IS NO NEED FOR PHILOSOPHY
    Essentially you are using REDUCTIONISM , everything reduced to ATOMS , thus everything is MANIFESTATION OF ATOMS.
    If only life was that simple. Speaking of life , despite atoms being the common denominator LIVING AND NON LIVING IS LIFE AND DEATH
    This AIRY FAIRY philosophy HAS KEPT INDIA ENSLAVED FOR CENTURIES , JUST LIKE CHILDISH AND BIZARRE AND ANTI SCIENCE COMMENTARY WILL KEEP MUSLIMS AT THE MERCY OF THE WEST FOR ANOTHER 1000YRS.
    STICK TO RATIONAL SCIENCE , that is the ONLY VERIFIABLE WAY

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dear Shan,

    Why are we discussing unrelated things and not the basics?

    There is no last word, neither Advaita nor Super String theory. I have nowhere inferred that we are reducing everything to Atoms. Super consciousness is not Atoms. Atoms can be its manifestation.

    I have only taken reference of already expounded philosophies, I am not trying to follow them in toto. What has enslaved us for 1000 years has been discussed earlier also by me, it has also been discussed in reference to other civilisations of that period, on what happened to them.

    What is Rational Science? When theory of Relativity was expounded, When Atoms and Molecules were conceived, when matter and energy was conceived as one, and innumerable number of similar instances ,were they verifiable. Is Super String theory verifiable? Why do we have to become Pope of European Dark ages trying to muzzle free thinking ( In his time in the name of Christianity and now in the name of Science.)

    I think you are are not understanding concept of Super Consciousness, hence these confusions.It does take some focused thinking .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,
    Perhaps the pervading “Adhyatma” in our thinkiing may indeed have blunted our physical actions.
    I guess – a bit more of “materialism” in our attitudes could’ve had made wonders for our society.
    (Incidentally my own anecdotal observation is – we tend to equate “materialism” with selfishness, actually so much so that it has being materialistic is often coined as a place-holder phrase for being consumerist / selfish / self-centered).
    p.s. for Ashish : Is this what you wanted to say implicitly when arguing about PISA scores ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dear Mahesh,

    It is not pervading “Adhyatmikta” but total confusion in our understanding. One of the greatest collection of philosophies ( Bhagvat Gita) has been propounded on a Battle Ground. Can there be any more action oriented background.It is our total lack of understanding that makes us believe that Indian Philosophies blunt our physical actions.

    I recall Vivekanad explaining something to this effect” When we start studying Hindu philosophies, it looks very depressing and un worldly, however this is only because we are not understanding it properly. Once we start its real understanding, it fills you with vigour and tremendous energy.It demands action , rightful actions.

    Hindus of past have been one of the most materialistic, but at the same time philosophically strong people. Some famous Chinese traveler of ancient time has mentioned ” I came across people possessing everything , but possessed of nothing”.

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    AshishC Reply:

    PISA scores…
    standards of education are dwindling.. is a fact. And, that is the real challenge-across the board, not some software engineer’s or indeed his entire community’s lack of depth..

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    engrich Reply:

    ANTI SCIENCE COMMENTARY WILL KEEP MUSLIMS AT THE MERCY OF THE WEST FOR ANOTHER 1000YRS

    before rennainace muslim world was leader in science and technology.there is no antiscience commentary .in usa we leaving christians behind jews are next.
    there 1001 innovative inventions by muslims in midieval age.islam stands fro knowledge.in most of muslim countries education is free with very high standards.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There is nothing “muslim” or “jewish” or “hindu” or “christians” at play. It just so happens that in US opportunities are more widely accessible than , say, in India (There are ifs and buts there but it merits separate discussion).

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    engrich Reply:

    u are right mahesh but this is in awnser to shan who was talking of 1000 years.

  • Anonymous

    _———————————————————————————————————————
    ~~~ CHETAN BHAGAT’S VIEWS ON RELIGIOUS RESERVATIONS ~~~
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    As Digvijay and Rahul push India onto Jinnah’s path of reservation along religious lines, I am quoting Chetan Bhagat here who speaks some sense.

    Read on

    Like certain flowers that blossom only in the spring, Indian politics comes alive in its true colours only during election time. The strategies adopted by the political parties tell you what matters to people – or, answers the elusive question – how exactly do Indians vote?
 Even the most rational, modern-thinking politicians adopt primitive and regressive measures to pander to the electorate. They do this for one and only one purpose – to win. In fact, victory becomes so important that they forget or ignore the long-term repercussions of their actions on our society and nation as a whole.

Take two examples, one each from the major parties, to see how peculiar Indian politics truly is.

The first is the BJP’s attempted induction of corruption tainted Kushwaha. The move backfired immediately. In fact, it made people wonder why the BJP, of the anti-corruption-rath-yatra fame, took on board someone publicly fired for corruption. While the media bashing forced the BJP to withdraw, the reason why the BJP did it wasn’t pure stupidity. The Kushwaha community, classified in the OBC category, is nearly 10% of UP’s population. It is understood the community votes en bloc and can cause a major swing. The controversy regarding his induction made Kushwaha a star overnight. Such a tantalizing slice of UP’s vote bank pizza was too much to resist. The resulting indigestion aside, one can see what made the BJP do it.


    
The second, equally if not more, disturbing act is the Congress proclamation of a Muslim quota within the OBC quota. Congress leaders are roaming around UP as you read this, touting their plan to slice an already sliced OBC quota for the Muslims.

Both the actions above have devastating impact on Indian society and scars Indian values. The first act pardons sins like corruption if you have the right caste. It says that we as Indian people don’t value honesty above community.

The impact of the second act, the Muslim reservation, is even more sinister. It divides Hindus and Muslims further. It sanctions privilege and advantage on the basis of religion. Religious reservations are bizarre. Consider this, one cannot convert his or her caste, but can convert their religion. So, could we see a scenario in the future in which a Hindu boy cannot get a job or college admission, but if he converts to Islam, he can get it under the quota? Are we incentivizing conversion? How can we allow such a policy to be even announced or be put in a manifesto, let alone take effect?

The sad part is, such reservation does little for Muslims who need good education, entrepreneurship and empowerment to rise in society. Many Muslims are national icons in this country, and they have done it with their own talent, grit and determination. Muslims need an environment that nurtures their talent, rather than meaningless poll-time freebies. If a father gives his children toffees instead of buying books for school, it may get the child excited. But will you call him a good father?

However, for a change, i am not blaming any of the politicians for the above two actions. Perhaps if we were in the same situation, we would be left with no choice but adopt similar measures. The problem is not with the politicians, who simply mirror and adapt to the environment. The issue is with the Indian electorate, or us. The great Indian mind is filled with prejudice. Centuries of persecution, discrimination even in the present day, and a belief that one’s own kind is superior has led to these prejudices. These in turn have led to a haphazard democracy that is more cacophony than consensus. The ruckus we often see in Parliament is nothing but a visualization of the average Indian mind, of chaos and confusion about who we really are. Even the most educated of us are prejudiced. One simple test of prejudice is this – will you allow your siblings or children to marry outside your community or religion? If your answer is no, then no matter how much you cheer for the Indian team, stand in attention for the national anthem or cheer the Indian flag – you are prejudiced. And until such time that most of us stay prejudiced, we will have the confused and mediocre leadership that we have right now. No matter how many hunger fasts activists do, or good policies economists suggest, if in our minds we don’t get the concept of being Indian, and treat that above anything else, we will remain a messed up country. Yes, dalits were treated badly in the past and some still suffer. Muslims were and some of them still are discriminated against. However, things have improved, and if you shed your prejudices, they will improve even faster. If there were no prejudice, there would be no need for the BJP to take a tainted Kushwaha, and no need for the Congress to announce quotas within quotas.

If we don’t change however, we aregoing to move towards disaster. There will be lack of decision-making, inefficiency and a stalling of progress and growth. The young generation will find it even more difficult to get a good education and jobs.

After all, if we choose our leader based on the toffees he gives us, then we somewhat deserve our fate. However, the elections are coming, and provide a chance – to express your prejudice, or shed it. What are you going to do?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    Agree with Chetan’s observations.

    Maintaining a permanent underclass is substituted for building equality of opportunity because the former provides a continuous, consistent voting block, except in occasional outliers like in Bihar elections.

    Rizwan, Showb, Pervez have consistently supported the views articulated by Chetan.

    It is only foreign based people like Ravi who supports these nonsensical programs that results in permanent divisions (obviously his analysis does not indicate this )result

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “Maintaining a permanent underclass is substituted for building equality of opportunity because the former provides a continuous, consistent voting block, except in occasional outliers like in Bihar elections. ”
    How does one provide equality of opportunity in terms of current socio-economic structure ? Are you betting on “let us be equal” or equivalent slogans ?

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    engrich Reply:

    muslim votes are going to all parties.even 17%go to bjp.they vote anybody who promise to help them in their small scale bussinesess.they are eaten by banias.actually brhmn votes are consistence.
    communal riots and voilence were perpetuated after partition by parivar to consolidate high caste hindu votes.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh I would like to know your views on having a parliament based on proptional religious reservations… It does sound nice in theory many people feel

    engrich Reply:

    supported the views articulated by Chetan.

    and by jansanghi brhmnsts.

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    engrich Reply:

    CHETAN BHAGAT’S VIEWS ON RELIGIOUS RESERVATIONS

    what a mental gymastics to avoid religious quota.are muslims not indians.muslims are hardworking race,hand of bharat mata.broken arms can not produce anything.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Religious quota – in its current avatar – is hopelessly inadequate tool. Don’t expect it to address current structural imbalances.

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    engrich Reply:

    u mean to say it will not help haves not.if backward reading gita deserve reservation why not backward reading quran.
    when there is competition between lion and goat for food
    what is wrong in proving protection to goat.usually muslim are are artisans goverment should make sure that they get right price for their products.
    banias are getting by slelling their product at exhorbant prices.

    give ur suggestion if any.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Engrich

    Should we have a parliament based on Propotional religious reservations?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    please don’t take the rest of us here to be “buddhus”.

    The question is not one of adequacy. For all we have been discussing here, even the full 30% reserved for OBCs may be hopelessly inadequate for the 300 million muslims of India.

    The question is whether reservations based on religion-is it good, is it permitted under the constitution and/or will Hindus accept this “robbing Peter to pay Paul” policy with equanimity as they did partition?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please let me know of one country whih has a religious quota.

  • Ravi

    RESERVATIONS

    I disagree with both; the spirit as well as the substance of the article. I believe it sets its own warped paradigm and then goes on to criticise it.

    Consider the following, in a modern and contemporary setting.

    If in a Government Department there were 100 posts. If the department was signatory to implementing equal opportunity for all, yet found that for the past 30 years or so, the ratio between male and female employees was 80/20 in favour of males.

    What should the Department Head do?

    1. Shrug shoulders and say, if women applied then I will consider them, but they just do not apply. (this in Europe would be classed as 1950s attitude)
    2. Take affirmative action, by reserving some positions for women candidates only, so that gradually the ratio changes and over a period – may be of 20 years – the ratio is close to 50/50. (this would be in Europe as the 1980s attitude)

    If you believe in the second option, then you cannot harp on about issues such as:

    a) Women do not work as hard as men.
    b) Women take time off to have family.
    c) Women take time off to look after ill members of their family
    d) Etc.

    One can easily replace the word women above with Blacks/Asians, and most of it would apply and would be classed as 1970s attitude.

    It then becomes easy to argue; if the imbalances based upon Sex/Race in our society can be addressed by appropriately targeted affirmative action’s then why can the same not apply to Religion based inequalities?

    The fact that one cannot change one’s Sex and or Race is a red herring. Whilst one can change ones religion, there is no evidence that it happens in reality. Milk in UK schools was free – until Mrs T – stopped it. It did not lead massive numbers of people allowing themselves to voluntarily go into poverty, just so their children could enjoy free milk. On the contrary, the shame of free milk meant that many deserving families forego their legitimate share for fear of being stigmatised.

    I know two people in my extended family in India, who obtained admissions to Medical schools on the basis of their fathers/uncles being in the armed forces. Yes there are Quotas for Armed Services, even today.

    My view is simple. It would be best if there was no need for Reservation on ANY basis. However, if we have no choice but to have reservations (on a temporary basis), then to artificially say, it is OK to do it on the basis of caste but not on the basis of religion is an inconsistent set of beliefs. It would further alienate an already alienated section of our society.

    The Police Service of Northern Ireland has a policy of trying to draw 50% of its recruits from the Catholic community, which makes up less than 50% of the population. This is a temporary measure, and has the object of raising the proportion of Catholics in the force where, historically, they have been greatly under-represented. Since the policy was adopted the proportion of Catholics in the force has risen from 8% to about 25%, and the target is to get it to 30%. Catholics make up about 40% of the population.

    If we are to wean our Muslim Citizens from the path of regressive radicalisation, then we need to attract them into main street education and Jobs as much as we can, this in the long run will benefit ALL of us. If to do that we have to – for a while – provide targeted reservations for them, then so be it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Quota in armed forces is a reward for hardship postings. Muslims or any other minority serving in the forces are elgible for it.

    The government is already sponsoring minority religious based colleges and schools which give pfrerance in basis of religion.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I would also want to know your views on separate electorate based on religion. After all we had it once in this country….

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  • Ravi

    Cry my country…
    Slavery case girl tells court of abuse by Eccles couple

    A deaf girl allegedly kept in a cellar, raped and treated as a slave in Greater Manchester has told a court of years of beatings and cruelty.

    The girl, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, told the jury of the alleged abuse after being trafficked to the UK from Pakistan in 2000.

    Ilyas Ashar, 83, and his wife, Tallat Ashar, 66, from Eccles, have denied charges at Minshull Street Crown Court.

    SHOULD A JUDGE decide to administer capital punishment to this cruel couple, they can count on my support.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    what does your ‘book’ say on this matter?

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  • Sujata Anandan

    Thanks, Pallav!

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  • Sujata Anandan

    Hey Hepzi, this is only a small part of it. There’s a bigger story about how we got the press club in the first place and it is even bigger than `mind blowing’. Saving it for later,

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  • drgj23

    wt **** are u writing.wt has tis to do with punjab and bombay…..get some life…u din write anything about current scams in Maharashtra…..dont waste our time …we beluieve u r sensible

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  • Impi

    lol! That was some Punjabi chutzpah.

    But Sukhbir Badal does not need any help…..trust me….1. He does not care. 2. Capt. Amrinder Singh surpasses him in that attitude. 3. Punjab has no choice…well..right now.

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  • guypeaceful

    the comments section is filled with congress congress congress congress congress but no one has the guts to acknowledge the fact that he is killer at the end of the day. Under his administration it happened and even he will never be able to justify that. Sad! that money lovers doesn’t see that. If their parents, wife, children, husband have died then they would have understood. For now literally money worship is going on. Sad state.

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  • http://twitter.com/jitendrap Jitendra Patil

    Modi is happy that a lot of people earn bread and butter abusing him, he also wishes well for them!! haha..

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  • Abhishek Tondon

    The fact that you think Modi is damned either way, bears testimony to your state of mind and how damned you are, Mr. Author.

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  • Kumar

    3 question i would like to ask the Author of this article (if you can answer them, shall accept what you have written is true – by comparing a militant to a leader)
    1. Why is the current PM accepting the Lokpal as is it (why does he not want to come under the Lokpal);
    2. Why was the news of Raul Vinci (AKA Rahul Gandhi) being detained @ NY airport of undisclosed amount of dollars in his possession while traveling with the friend (girl friend – donno if it is true!!!) who is a daughter of Columbia Mafia Drug Lords daughter?;
    3. If Robert Vadra is a common man – Why did the INC/UPA politicians jumped to his aid rather than calling in for a legal lawsuit/judiciary commision, etc

    P.S. If the Hindustan times have the courage to answer these question unbiasedly, and courage to post my comment – we shall accept ur tyranny against a person who has shown/defined what development is – when the the current PM was sleeping (keep in mind – both ruled the respective part for 11 & 8 years)….and once the Western media said the PM is INCOMPETENT – then he wakes up n tries to sells the country by introducing FDI (FYI – even in US – small districts, counting New York do not allow Walmart in the town/cities/state)….

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  • Ankur

    Ye lo…One more misinformed soul..May u find some wisdom someday!!! Ameen..

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  • Raj

    what a joke off an article – total ****! and this shit gets published lol

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  • must watch modi speech
  • div

    This is no political view, this is a congress spokesperson’s speech before the polls.

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  • Desi

    Utterly lopsided article, and it appears Hindustan Times is probably controlled and owned by Modi’s adversaries, possibly congress.

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  • swami

    Consult a psychologist urgently.

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  • Notradame

    the authors high on hashish…..
    so is Rajdeep Congresai, Purkha Butt, Beer Sanghavi and other of this bandwagon….

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    Ankur Reply:

    Pehle decide karle kis side hai tu?? 2 simultaneously contradictory comments… Congress waala hai kya tu?

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    Archana Reply:

    Do I share my id with someone?
    Hey I just saw google article and wanted to comment, without registering with these crooks.
    I am not Congressi, for God sake dont’ curse me :D

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  • Parth

    By far most Perfect & unbiased analysis.. Unlike other people in comments i happen to see the other side in gujarat by living in gujarat. Under modi’s gloomy car cover lies a sorry state of affairs where fear and corporate corruption is rampant..

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    Ankur Reply:

    Ch***iya saala

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  • Duke

    Dhakkan hai yaar tu bhi…aur shayad aisa hi rahegaaa..Padhai likhai ki hai ya aise hi gawaaron jaisi baatein karta hai har baar??

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  • INDIAN

    IT SEEMS THAT THE AUTHOR IS SICK FROM HIS/HER MIND , FIRST GO TO GUJRAT & SEE WHAT THE PEOPLE OF GUJRAT SAY ABOUT MR MODI , EVERONE WANTS DEVLOPMENT & NOT ANY OTHER STATE HAS MADE SUCH A REMARKABLE DEVLOPMENT FROM THE LAST DECADE UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF MR MODI………..

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  • Navin

    This is the most absurd article I have ever read, cannot believe it has made it to Hindustan times webpage…………Atleast the writer should have pretended to be neutral.

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  • CARRY ON

    ALL THESE SO CALLED WRITERS OF HT ARE RUNNING FOR A COMPITITION THAT WHO WILL GET MAXIMUM NUMBER OF INSULT OR GAALIA FROM READERS.CARRY ON I THINK YOU ARE BEST

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  • Anonymous

    I’m kind of feeling sad for all these Modi hating so called journos…they seem to be loosing their minds watching Modi grow in stature dispite all their vicious propaganda. Get well soon Sujata Anandan

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  • Travis

    Lots of nation loving soldiers die every month for the past 65 years due to our foreign policy, no one calls the PM a murderer! More people die in road accidents thanks to corrupt COPs, no one calls them murders, Even more people die due to hunger every now and then due to lack of national infrastructure, while food rots in the GOIs godowns, no one calls then FnB minister a murderer!

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  • g dhillon

    great article. its good to know that ppl r speaking out against modi’s fascist hindutva brand of politics. He’s india’s hitler…

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  • Anuj

    After reading the comments below,I dont even need to say anything…..not sure whether the Author is also reading the comments…may be she will now blame Modi of asking his followers to comment on her blog…..:D

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  • Mo

    UPA is scared shitless. Modi is man of the hour. True patriot. He should run the
    central government. He is the only man fit to be the Prime Minister of India.
    Hopefully that day is not far. Indians are fed up with corruption.

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  • SANJAY

    MADAM SUJATA AAP TO SHAKAL AUR AUKAL DONO SE PEDAL LAGTI HAI.

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  • Ram G.

    Can we have more information on this “gandhe nale ka kida” – his education, parents, siblings, knowledge of English etc? He comes across as a crude, third rate gujju.

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    Let_bhagao_abhiyan Reply:

    Abe maderch0d , in three posts u changed your father three times . How is your wife & sister performing ? Going great guns ?

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  • Ram k

    This gandhe nale ka kida is a disgrace to Mahatma Gandhi’s birth state

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  • Ramesh Kumar

    I HAVE FEW QUERIES TO THE LEARNED AUTHORESS,
    1.THE MONEY SPENT ON HER SONIA JI APPEARED IN A HINDI PAPER.DID GOVT ACTED AGAINST THE PAPER TILL DATE.MMS CAME OUT WITH FIGURE OF 3 LACS,WHICH WAS A LIE AND RAISED TO 80LACS BY INDIAN MISSIONS ABROAD.COULD LADY AUTHOR TELL HOW MUCH WAS SPENT?
    2.KILLING OF 5000SIKHS IN DELHI WAS THAT ANORMAL INCIDENCE ?
    3.DID RAJIV GANDHI AS HEAD OWNED THE RESPONSIBILITY? IF NOT WHYNOT.
    4.IF A MAN IS GUILTY ,HE MUST BE PUNISHED.
    5.LACS OF HINDUS WERE KILLED DURING PARTITION,ON WHOSE HAND IS THIS BLOOD,PL NAME THE CONGRESS LEADER.

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  • Pankaj360

    Why all the Modi bashing? Congress Goons running HT

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  • kanishka

    But Silence is being preached and practiced by CONgi PM MAUN MOHAN SING also.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amit-Sharma/782062691 Amit Sharma

    REFERENCE: http://www.mediacrooks.com/

    I haven’t seen too many gaffes from Narendra Modi while speaking to reporters. But it only proves he is
    as much a “mango man” like any of us. In his interview to Rajdeep Sardesai (at 15.58) NaMo called Rajdeep: “Sarkardesai” or “Sarkadardesai”. The audio cackles but I’m positive it’s one of
    those two words. That’s a welcome gaffe though. Rajdeep Sardesai (RS) is often
    fondly called “Turdesai”, “Slurdesai” or even “Sardardesai”. What is serious, though,
    is his interview with Modi is disappointing. Why? Because despite what borders
    on hate-campaign against Modi, be it when Rajdeep was in StarNews, NDTV or now in
    CNN-IBN, Modi has spoken to him quite often. It’s disappointing, also because RS
    had a great chance to ask some very valid and probing questions to Modi. He
    screwed up! Like a third rate reporter RS landed up in Modi’s campaign bus
    without much homework, without much fact-checking. He could get away with any
    other politician with this but when you get a rare chance to interview Modi you
    need to make the most of it. FAIL. (View the full interview and transcripts here).

    RS, you see, is too used to mindless and meaningless debates and
    frequently interviewing guttermouths like Digivijay. In the process he has
    neither discovered nor practiced the skill of good interviewing. RS has for too
    long been talking to politicians full of trash and nonsense that makes Rajdeep
    look intelligent; people who dish out “Zero Loss” or “mother earth”.
    However, Modi, like a well-informed auditor seems to have facts, data and
    information on everything in Gujarat, including small districts, at his
    finger-tips. In contrast Rajdeep brings the same foolish style of interviewing
    as he would employ with a Diggy, Sibal, RenukaC or Teesta. I stated in an
    earlier post: “Those who are used to
    crumbs are not likely to possess the nose of a hound”. You can guess what
    RS is used to. So come along with me, let’s look at some bits and pieces from
    this shoddy interview (edited excerpts in blue).

    RS: But
    Modiji, Swami Vivekanand was a saintly person… You are using his name to garner
    support amongst the people, that’s what your opponents say.

    NM: As I told you already,
    we are celebrating this year as the Yuva Varsh. And it was not I who decided
    that the 150th anniversary of Swami Vivekanand would fall this year. It was
    decided 150 years ago. So it’s not my fault that it fell this year.

    Peddling some “personal” rant as a question is the serious problem with
    our media crooks. This is a nation inspired by saints. So what exactly is
    Rajdeep’s problem? Morons who cannot raise a single question to the issue of
    over 450 schemes, projects, roads, monuments, metro stations named and used for
    electoral gains by the Nehru-Gandhi clan are so worried that Swami
    Vivekananda’s name is being used for political gains. See homework?

    RS: But
    I am talking about now. Now that the elections are imminent, aren’t you
    focusing more on Sonia Gandhi and Manmohan Singh than on Swami Vivekanand?

    Is Sonia Gandhi or MMS Rajdeep’s aunty or father in law that worries
    him? Umm.. let’s see is there an appropriate time or place to rake up issues on
    SoniaG or MMS? Will Rajdeep decide when the right is time to raise the
    questions? Who gave such a right to this divine comic? Incompetence!

    RS: The
    PMO did clarify that only Rs 3 lakh were spent on Sonia Gandhi’s foreign trips.
    You had offered to apologise if the figure you quoted – that of Rs 1880 crore -
    and the newspaper reports were proven wrong. That’s right, RS and his
    gang is so used to crumbs thrown to them by PMO or the govt (like zero loss or
    mother earth) that they don’t bother to check the accuracy of their statements.
    Would anyone really believe only 3 lakhs were spent on SG travels? Is RS such
    an irredeemable idiot? Has he ever asked which airline she uses, who provides
    her aircrafts for travels? In any case this is not interviewing, this is “phishing” for sound-bites and headlines.

    RS: Modiji
    you have said that your election campaign will revolve around Swami Vivekanand
    and focus on development. So what made you attack Sonia Gandhi, nearly three
    months after the reports on expenditure incurred on her foreign visits were
    published? Question is, what stopped the media asking these questions.
    Why should it even take Modi to ask them? Cowards who prostrate in front of the
    Gandhi family now also want other parties and politicians to stop asking
    questions of SoniaG. Isn’t that lovely? The Vivekanand campaign ended on
    October 11, so should Modi stop his campaign? Does campaign on development mean
    not asking any question on wasteful expenditure or non-disclosures by the
    centre? Incompetence!

    RS: SoniaG,
    during her rally in Saurashtra, raised the issue of water supply. She said that
    the water of Narmada was yet to be made available to that region….

    NM: You should be aware of a
    show that your channel ran two years ago on the amazing methods of water
    conservation and usage in Gujarat.

    RS: Yes, yes… It was on dry
    land farming.

    Again, SoniaG raised the issue…
    Sonia this, Sonia that! What is this guy? SoniaG’s broker or PR agent? Doesn’t
    he have any questions of his own? And even when he asks the question he forgets
    homework on a report his own channel had done. Incompetence!

    RS: The
    Congress government leveled some charges regarding land allotments against you
    for which you set up the MB Shah Commission.

    NM: See, Justice Shah is a
    respected SC judge. And he found out that one of the land allotments, that the
    Congress alleged was a Rs 65,000 crore scam, was made in 1983, when the
    Congress was in power. So the Shah Commission said that if this former Congress
    chief minister were to know the allegations leveled against him by his own
    party, he would be really disappointed.

    Now, every time Manish Tiwari or Sibal screamed about land scam in
    Gujarat did RS ever ask them that this particular scam was under a Congress CM?
    Did he even read the Justice Shah report at all before asking such a stupid
    question? Stupid, because the Shah Commission has already cleared Modi of any
    wrong-doing. No homework, Incompetence!
    Slapped again!

    RS: Sir
    how do you perceive SoniaG’s attack on you in 2007 when she called you ‘maut ka
    saudagar’ referring to 2002 riots. You are still targeted because of this. How
    do you perceive such attacks?

    NM: I give my best wishes to
    the RS, that he has been harping on this issue for the past 10 years, that he
    gets his daily bread by harping on this issue.

    RS: No, there is nothing
    like that…

    NM: You have to listen.

    This is where Modi told RS:“Sunna padega bhai.. tumhari roji roti mujhe
    gaali dene se chalti hai” . Translated: You have to listen.. you earn your daily bread
    by abusing me. Slapped, again!

    RS: My final question. I
    know you don’t like it but it is something that your opponents feel and talk
    about. I know you see me as your opponent. But I am a political analyst. (Haha!
    He forgot to add Numero Uno). My
    question is that people feel that Narendra Modi must apologise for the 2002
    riots if he has to become the Prime Minister of the country. Your message to
    them… What would you like to say to those people?

    NM: I said that those people
    who earn their daily bread out of criticising me, and are awarded for the same,
    they have my best wishes.

    RS: I did receive the Padma
    Shri but that was for journalism. So you are not going to answer that question
    of mine? Regarding your apology for the 2002 riots.

    Haha! I wish that were true. Yeah.. even Barkha Dutt has received a
    Padma Shri. Oh even Shekhar Gupta (the Army coup guy) has received one. What
    about that DLF guy? DLF is so much in the news lately. Even the head of DLF
    Kushalpal Singh received a Padma Bhushan. His terminology for bribing: “facilitate speedy disposal” to Shekhar
    Gupta is actually worthy of a Nobel Prize. RS received Padma Shri for
    journalism! Poonam Pandey is more honest about her pursuits. Post the interview
    RS held a debate, as usual, over his monumental achievement. One of the
    panellists said Narendra Modi holds many important portfolios and doesn’t
    delegate. RS should think about that, it actually applies more to him. Any given day, Anubha Bhonsle or Suhasini
    Haider would have conducted a much better interview. But the media celebs
    too live under the notion that only they are qualified to conduct such
    interviews. A miserable RS who can’t speak one coherent sentence without
    stuttering, stammering and without homework is hardly the right guy to
    interview a sharp politician.

    In
    the entire interview RS had nothing to really ask, especially nothing
    that was not already discussed in the media for days and months. Not
    much about
    Gujarat, not much about development. Nothing! All he wanted like a
    broken record was talk about 2002, his personal
    wet dreams of “apology” and, of course, acting a broker for Sonia
    Gandhi. In
    a 23-minute interview (excluding other visuals) Sonia was mentioned 21 times because of RS’s questions. That’s
    almost once every minute! Was RS from CNN-IBN or Sonia’s stable? Students
    of journalism should definitely watch this interview video to learn what stupid
    things they should not do. To do
    their homework and to ask questions that really matter and not poke around with
    some personal agenda. In 10 years Rajdeep hasn’t been able to fool Narendra
    Modi. Worse, he hasn’t been able to fool the public either. I have modest
    advice for him: Stick to interviewing Digvijay and Teesta, you won’t get
    slapped and won’t have your moronery exposed.

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    Banana Republic Reply:

    Great & valid analysis ! Unfortunately majority of netizens have not read your post . Rajdeep Sardesai , Burki-Dirt , Veerya Hungry , Vinod Sharma are parasites living on the waste of Italian waitress. This sujata is fifth rung of the chain .

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  • solomon

    Good article, you have to have guts to write the truth. Keep it up. killer is a kiler
    no matter how many times he wins or lose, bunch of impotent…..

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  • aumshanti

    this writer is paid person of anti national congress owned and operated by anti national sonia gandhi and her anti national family hope people of INDIA UNDERSTANDS and give anti national fitting reply by rejecting in election this kind of anti national writer should be sent to their fsvorit place known as napakistan

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  • Shovita

    Cry baby…cry baby…. How much did Sonia and her damad give you?

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  • Agra chalo

    Arre yeh to Pagla gayi hai…moderator me yeh article nahi padha kya…

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    Banana Republic Reply:

    First Moderat0r R*ped her ( in Haryanvi Style) , when she asked for money for consensual act , she was asked to write an article. She had no option but to get r*ped (consensual) again & get this article from Suwardesai .

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  • HT is congress mou piece

    And I thought HT was a neautral news paper with sensible reporters. You guys are so preposterous that you make a catchy title and fill it with bull garbage and call it a blog. T0I is 10 times better than HT.

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  • SAM

    MEDIA AND INDIAN GOVERNMENT REMEMMBER GUJRAT FOR 100 YEARS ….BUT KASHMIR THEY NEVER WRITE AS THEY AFRAID THAT MUSLIMS WILL KILL THEM ….WE ARE IN HINDUSTAN ….PLACE OF HINDUS …MODI G SHOULD BE PM AND MAKE IT A HINDU COUNTRY …WE NO HAVE A HINDU NATION WORLDWIDE …SHAME ON US ….MUSLIMS SEEK SEPARATE NATION IN EVERY NATION FOR THEIR RELIGION SO WHY CANT WE MAKE OUR OWN PLACE A HINDU COUNTRY …..

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  • SAM

    VOTE FOR MODI …PEOPLE OF GUJRAT …IF YOU NEED TO LIVE LIKE A KING LET BE MODI WIN BY 90% VOTES ……SO THAT PEOPLE OF ALL OVER THE WORLD SEE THAT WE LOVE MODI …

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  • AR

    Ms Sujata ….. if its all about secularism… people would like to have a couple more articles on the inefficiency and lethargic attitude adopted by the govt during 1984 Sikh riots and the recent Assam riots whose effects were felt as far as Mumbai……. But , we all know , u r belong to category of those spineless authors who really don’t understand what they jot…..

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  • http://www.facebook.com/amlan.dutta Amlan Dutta

    Before I say anything, let me say that
    “I am not a congress supporter, nor a BJP, RSS Troll. I haven’t ever been able to cast my vote (having moved out of my hometown at an young age) Nor am I being paid to write here. ”

    Having said that, let me salute Sujata Anandan for saying what few in the media dare to. While I appreciate the good work done by NAMO in Gujrat post the 2002 riots in strengthening his electorate… I as a citizen of this country will remain horrified and ashamed at the events of 2002 riots of Gujrat. I still remember that horrifying year and how even after pressure from Vajpayee, NAMO didnt quit. I remember him saying “Every Action has an Equal and Opposite Reaction”. I shudder to think that some of my own country men have forgotten his unabashed denial of Gujrat riots and are all for having him as the PM.

    I can still hear the screams of Ehsan Jaffri whose body was never found, an MP who had faith in his country in his leader (whom he had called only to be snubbed). I can hear the screams emerging from Best Bakery, Naroda Patia the screams which finally brought justice to the doors of Babu Bajrangi and Maya Kodnani) if I as a citizen can hear the screams from so far away are my countrymen sleeping ?? Let me also mention that I am a Hindu and my religion doesnt condone systematic pogroms of any community. I am not an animal who will forget and move on , and heap praises on NAMO just because he has done good work post riots. He has systematically elbowed out all his rivals in his party in Gujrat. What is BJP in Gujrat without him, he has become a demagogue !!!

    I am glad I never had to live in Gujrat. But I promise to leave my country, India the day he (God Forbid!!) becomes our PM

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    Ankur Reply:

    Aaaj hi chala jaa..Why wait for him to become PM? Aur tere jaane se India gareeb nai hojaayega… Hai kaun tu???

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    Amlan Dutta Reply:

    Tameez sey puchogey to jawab milega , nahi to I am not answerable to you ok.

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    Ankur Reply:

    Waise are u aware of other riots that took place in the country?? Ya toh tu Congressia hai yaa ****… Ab bata bhi de kaun hai tu?? Neutral ya logical toh teri baatein lagti nai hain. History padhi hai?? ya aise hi anpadh hai?

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    Amlan Dutta Reply:

    Tumsey to jyada hi history padi hai,, mera naam puchney walley pehley apna naam bata, kya Ankur Modi hai kya ?

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    Amlan Dutta Reply:

    Mai to public profile sey post kiya hun, terey jaisa anonymous poster nahi hu ok

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  • Ramy Ki Whammy

    This writer must also be Neera Radia smitten like bed fellows : Rand-deep Suwardesai , Bur-ka Dirt & Veerya ( from Animals) Sandvi ! Carry on Radia brigade ( Loot lo India , loot lo Padmbhushans)

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  • http://www.facebook.com/harvinder.maini Harvinder Maini

    Killer of thousand innocents with the help of government machinery and now living in tight security cannot be a lion. Had he been lion, he would have accepted his sins without any fear.

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    Ankur Reply:

    Haan jaise Rajeev Gandhi ne Sikh riots of 84 keliye kiya thaa. Waise hi naa?? jaise Tytler ko jail huii waise hi naa?? Aur jaise congress ban hui thee waise hi naa?? Saala Hindustan Times padh ke hi bada huaa hai tu yaa fir dawn ya the nation. Indian jaisi knowledge toh hai nai tere paas… naa facts pata hai aur bhai saab logic naam ki toh koi cheez hai nai tere paas..

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  • Banana Republic

    I can post only one comment on Sujata (Maino) of London ( Italian waitress) : Street d0gs & B!tches are given full coverage by HT , if they fall in the line of P0ty eater(of Mainos) !

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  • http://www.facebook.com/harvinder.maini Harvinder Maini

    By whom you are being paid for writing in favour of Modi? Modi will not become Prime Minister of India by advertising in his praise through a few hundred or thousand paid peoples. He has to accept his sins committed in Gujarat in 2002.

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    Banana Republic Reply:

    The war has begun between Hindustanis & Porkistanis. Ab tera mai..mai karne ka time aa gaya hai “Maino ke Maini

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  • Banana Republic

    More importantly : The payment is done from Taxpayers money .

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  • DIYA

    Dear Sujata,after reading this Article there is two possibilities

    1 you are mad…
    2 you are corrupt and fed up with money by congress

    Regards
    One Gujarati

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  • Banana Republic

    Dear Sujata : If Bar girls shows are banned in Maikhana “”, it does not mean you start “Paikhana ” in Electronic Media ! You can try your shows in other states !

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tanveer-Ul-Haque/1426487982 Tanveer Ul Haque

    MASS MUDERER..he should have been behind the bars and tried like kasab

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  • Anna

    Someone writes sensibly at HT! Kudos

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  • padmesh Kumar Varma

    Dear Sir,The last line may be prophetic that the BJP may win in Gujarat but not in rest of India. Modi has been described rightly as a tyrant and a dictator. By not begging pardon for the mayhem of 2002 he is digging his party’s grave if not his.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Padmesh ji… I think you should worry about your embarresing name before you worry about your country

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  • Raghavendra

    ms sujata i wish to ask you 1 thing at the beginning do you honestly feel that Modi would automatically eligible for the post of PM just because he asks for apology for 2002 riots?
    do you honestly feel that indian muslims would pardon this man and vote for this man whom you call MURDERER of MUSLIMS you feel that is going to happen?

    you feel Modi would be eligible for PM post if he merely apologises?
    i feel that this writer has allowed her personal bias towards mr modi to say that he will never be a PM of india.

    Ms sujata i wish to tell you 1 thing that Modi will become a PM of india evem if people like you keep hating him.
    the voters of indian have every right to allow or disallow narendra modi as future PM of india.

    please stop writing articles which are based on personal bias. it is high time you stopped these things.

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  • vijay !

    I think you should ask yourself on why you are silent on the Vadra billions

    On why you higlighted the corrupt ChANDRASEKHAR SINGH AS an ideal Congressman and politician.

    On why you cant see a dynasty reduce this country to become its naukers.

    On why Rajiv gandhi was never punished for the 84 riots. Why Mehbooba should not be hjailed for the riots on the Amarnath shrene camp…

    DOnt be obsessed witht he BJP. Instead rescue the Congress of Dadabhai naorji and Sardar Patel and Gandhi which has become a domestci nauker service of teh Gandy parivar.

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  • javed

    her advice to Modi to resign to garner sympathy…
    lol !! what is this kindergaarten politics?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/govindarajan.natesan Govindarajan Natesan

    In Nehru time and even later in Nehru family’s dynasty rule so many riots were seen and no one asked him to resign.It was rumoured that a man of Shyam Prakash Mukerjees calibre was reportedly slow poisoned to death by Nehru and Shake Abdulla and given an injection he was known to be allergic and it was further reported that his mother demanded an enquiry which was never held.Even a post mortem was not conducted.Here terrorists have been treated the way way they need to be treated but the politicians and journalists make martyrs of them for reasons clear to them.We need patriotic nationalists like Modi and salute them.

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  • suraiya

    These people deal with women with such high handedness. Thanks for writing this down.

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  • Ayushmaan

    please update the name of MP CM . rgds

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