Try out FDI in retail in Punjab

Vinodji

Let it be tried in other states too such as Maharashtra, Gujarat (Modi has welcomed the decision – though he may be forced to toe the central leadership’s line) and other states who are willing.

The same groundless arguments were put forward to oppose, when domestic super market chains set up shops all over.

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By all means, lets allow it only in Punjab to begin with and nowhere else.

Why do I need to beleive that Walmart would be here to save our farmers and urban consumers like us.

When our democratically elected govt. can’t/won’t do the same, why do you expect that Walmart would do it for us?

In fact, I have a sense that Sonia G was in the USof A couple months back finalising this deal with Walmart and making sure the huge commission earned was safely put somewhere before she returned. That’s why the cabinet rushed through the decision without a debate in the parliament. If the Congress is so sure that it is good for everyone, why shy away from a debate?

The debates are necessary only for a Jan Lokpal bill???????

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“Like any new idea, FDI in retail must’s be rejected out of hand.”

Vinodji, what do you mean by this?

Do you conclude that the idea is not worth trying out anywhere and must be rejected out of hand?

If Indian business entrepreneurs want to set up shop in China, will they be allowed to bring their entire ware from India? If not why should India try to be obsequious to the interests of these modern day East India companies?

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All new ideas are always rejected in Modern India. That’s is why in last 63 years of independence we have produced zero.
In independent India people have to leave India to try new ideas.

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There’s something known as logistics and supply chain which in our country is non-existent almost. A chain of Cold stores, freezers, freezer trucks and the like are to be built and bought for our agri produce. FDI would also bring in a spurt in agro industries. For example, Al Kabeer (a Madu company for the uninitiated) based in Dubai that produces a variety of frozen agroind products that are marketed in the M.E. as they are produced in Dubai – and the same are not available in India! We lack infra-structure for all the MNCs, who must first invest in creating a supply-chain in our country for their products to end up on the store’s shelves. Small-time stores are not at all going to close down – we have a huge population and the majority goes to the neighbourhood store for its immediate needs. In fact, the advent of MNCs in our market would force the govt to improve storage of food grains that presently rot in our open-air stores! As far as middle-men are concerned, I have full faith in their Jugaadu nature – they would find innovative ways of getting business even with MNCs around!
Old order changeth, yielding place to new – the younger generation of the mom and pop store owners are already averse to continue presiding over the Gaddi and run the business. B-grade cities, small towns, districts and villages all have a thriving small store Kirana business, which is not going to be affected in the coming 50 years come what may.
However, what remains to be seen is, who is twisting whose arms at this moment that had forced the Cabinet to decide in favour of 51% FDI in retail? The EU, the Yankees, the WTO or the IMF? Whatever, change in the retail is inevitable – like the change in IT and auto industries. and both these industries helped our economy – so will the advent of MNCs in retail.

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While I was reading the news about FDI, I came across the following comment posted by an inspired guy.

I pay compliment to him, by re posting his comment here, where the audience is probably a bit more decerning.

the fartriotic hindutva party will do anything to oppose the govt….all i can see from the fartriotic internet hindus is :” something fishy, swiss banks, antionia, raul ” and the usual hindutvavadi bullsh1t…………………really, the fartiots from the r ar$e ar$e deserve to be f@rted on their faces……….

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This is what Pranab thought about FDI in retail just a few months back.

http://khabar.ibnlive.com/news/63244/12/4

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The real reason behind introducing ‘FDI in retail’ bill by Congress is to divert attention away from Lokpal and anti-corruption movement. The Congress party is master of manipulation and knows every trick in the book to divert minds of Indians from real issues. They could have introduced ‘FDI in retail’ bill after Lokpal Bill but they want parliament not to function so that they can blame others for Lokpal Bill fiasco.

I am sure the next diversionary tactic by Congress will be to introduce ‘Communal violence Bill’. This bill will effectively divide opposition and put Lokpal bill in background.

The sad part is that Congressi supporters knowing fully well what Congress is doing, pretend to be all innocent..Becharo ko kuch Maloom nahi…

They tend to support everything coming from Congress as Hindutva supporters do in case of BJP. Where is independent thinking?

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As far as ‘FDI in retail’ is concerned, it will have major impact on job market, manufacturing and agriculture sector. This is not a simple issue as congressis will like us to believe. It has its advantages and also disadvantages. These should be debated at length keeping in mind India’s large labor force and condition of agriculture and manufacturing sector. The ‘FDI in Retail’ is going to be new Sector on par with Telecom sector revolutionizing Indian society but it could also spell disaster it is allowed without proper debate.

I think ‘FDI in retail’ can be allowed only in mega-cities (2.5 million plus) provided it doesn’t harm our workers and farmers. The 90% of agricultural produce sold in these stores should be of Indian and 75% of manufactured goods made in India. This is the only way it can help both ways else India will be another US where people crib about losing jobs without realising they themselves are to blame for that.

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I think current retail market employs people in millions. My guesstimate is directly 40 million and indirectly another 40-60 million people. Can big retail companies absorb this workforce? Let us not forget the Labor in India is surplus and very cheap compared to US. Do we need Big Retail Business Model in India as our conditions are very different to those of west?

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FANTASTIC BLOG, RAVI pl you do not bring in hindutva bashing, as vinoo said in last blog you are now becoming tiresome. Let us discuss burning topic. Now.
At many stages in my life I learned to say, I WAS WRONG, or I DID NOT KNOW THIS.
Life taught me, India taught me, world taught me. eg I wanted to open up markets slowly in 1990, but MMS supersikh and PV N Rao said, total liberalisation was way forward. And Gurcharan Das economist wrote in India Unbound that Indians thundered up to challenge and kicked ***.
So, I was wrong and I learnt. Same with IT wealth, wah ji, what a revolution.
Now retail, my gut feeling is, our govt ministers like PC, Pranabda, Sonia,Sibal etc must have thought hard and consulted Montek etc, and nice industrialists like Tata and Premji, and Moorthy, and only then gone ahead. It seems right to me.
Pl can ppl make relevant cuntributions now, yr turn, no wild theories like kickbacks Ishwar please

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FDI IS A CRUEL JOKE ON 77% INDIANS WHO CANNOT SPEND RS.20 PER DAY AS PER ARJUN SENGUPA COMMITTEE REPORT.( MR.VINOD SHARMA ,PL CONTRADICT ,IF WRONG.) THE KIND OF GOVERNANCE AVAILABLE UNDER NOMINATED BAREBABU MMSINGH,WHO CANCELS HIS PROGRAMME OF INAUGRATING BUDDHIST MEET IN DELHI AS DALAI LAMA WILL BE THERE,IN ORDER TO APPEASE CHINESE, ALL WALL MART NEEDS ENTRY. ARTICLES IN FAVOUR OF WALLMART WILL BE AVAILABLE DIME A DOZEN.
PM WHO HEADS PLANNING AND COMMISSION IS DOING HIS DUTY AS ORDERED.
INDIANS DONOT MATTER TO HIM. WHAT HAPPENED IN MANIPUR IS NOT HIS CONCERN.
VINOD SHARMA SHOULD ADVOCATE FDI IN NEWSPAPER OR MEDIA INDUSTRY ,SO THAT BETTER AUTHORS BECOME AVAILABLE TO THE NATION.

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@Vinod Shama , spare me my arrogance , I do know a tad more than the average indian about MASS RETAILING.First of all the fear about KIRANA shops withering away is UTTER BOLLOCKS. In gravesend where I live , there is a TESCO five minutes walk , a MASSIVE WAL MART(in uk known as ASDA) 6 minutes walk , a SAINSBURY 10 minute drive , a MORRISON 8 minute drive . YET THERE IS KIRANA SHOP BY THE NAME OF” COSTCUTTER” run by Mr Randhawa , and two in the Arthur street both run by sardarjis and one run by a srilankan tamil.
NOW FOR THE EAST DELHI CITIZEN TO MULL OVER WHAT THESE SUPERMARKETS OFFER , that i have been harping all along

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Peopel who tout parliamentary process are finding fault with the parliamentary process (Manohar, no pun intended).. And as usual we have a few who want to bring Hinduta in the argument.

I agree with Vinod that a willing state (preferably Congress ruling such as AP) be coopted to pilot.

Rajiv has a good point – the jobs lost by mom and pops shops will be more than the employment provided by the Walmarts. However, the price should be lower..

Instead of the preference to retail sector, I think we should have given first preference/priority to agriculture sector . We should have a network of storage and distribution centres – a project similar to the Quadrilateral

H

ighway project we undertook under the BJP admin. Thi will also partially address the food security issue. So much food is wasted now because there is no refrigeration, distribution capacities. This would have ensured an all India market for vegetables, fruits, flowers, grains, fish etc.. resulting in reduced price, reduced inflation. The success here would have easily opened up the avenues for retail and other sectors.

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I support FDI in retail. Let the market pick the winners. Just as there will be some losers there will also be some winners. That happens everyday in the market place. The goal is what’s best for the consumer ? Let the consumer decide.

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What is the need of trying out something when this model is proven? Secondly, even if you try this out in Punjab, there is no definition of success and political parties can still disagree and say no to FDI in their respective states. The simple answer is that those who want to oppose may keep opposing and not allow in their respective states, while those who believe shall allow.

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Currently India needs huge foreign investment in-
1. Power
2. Infrastructure
3. Water Supply and distribution
4. Agriculture sector

Retail should be far lower in the priority list.

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You are bang on target.

Punjab is one of the smallest states of India representing 1.6 per cent of its geographical area and 2.6 per cent of it’s cropped area. Agriculture occupies the most prominent place in Punjab’s economy. About 70 per cent of the people are engaged in agriculture. As against an all India average of 51 per cent, it has 85 per cent of its area under cultivation. the state on an average, account for 23% of Wheat , 14 % of cotton and 10% of rice production of the whole country.

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@Trap daar, You are locked in a trapdoor. I again reiterate I HAVE HAD FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE with farmers in Isle of Wight. THE REQUIREMENTS ARE VERY STRINGENT. The farmer I was putting up with had all his CARROTS rejected , as it did not meet the approved standard for supermarket. These carrots do find their way into the “KIRANA” shops of UK.As to animal welfare YOU NEED NOT WORRY , THERE IS MANEKA GANDHI TO TAKE CARE OF THAT , IN UK THAT JOB IS DONE BY RSPCA.
Regarding not being able to sell RAW milk , I fully approve , THESE ARE NOT THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES. Industrial scale farming has its problem.
Crohn’s Disease virtually unknown in India is thought to be (one of the theories) due to bovine TB. This one is not killed by pasteurisation , needs ULTRAFILTRATION . Then I would happily accept 0.1% incidence of Crohn’s Disease for the SEA OF MILK produced by industrial scale farming.
FINDING FAULT WITH WEST A FAVOURITE PASTTIME OF UNPATRIOTIC INDIANS , WHO WILL TAKE THE FIRST FLIGHT TO WEST IF GIVEN THE CHANCE.
jUST APPLY COMMON SENSE , if supermarkets are good for the WEST , it ought to be good for INDIA.
Also this mass retailing is not so pronounced in AUSTRIA , thus food prices ARE MUCH MUCH HIGHER THAN UK(personal observation)

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@pralhad_k , Brilliantly put BUT YOU CANNOT WAKE A PERSON PRETENDING TO BE ASLEEP

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Knowing a bit about real estate in and around the NCR, here are some unpalatable facts.

a) FDI for retail should not be a priorty as this will lead lead to massive unemployment as most fo the shopkeepers are self employed. Unlike the west, India is not a serviceman’s market. The majority are self employed, Small shops and roadside stores etc.

Instead Indian retailing chains could have been allowed to collaborate with foreign giants with the majority stake being with Indian companies.

Many malls have failed becasue the shops were not attreactive enough. One Wal mart will kill a lot of other malls as well as the smaller shopkeepers. SO to balance out the need for classy retailing and growth, this could all have been done in phases with joint ventures.

b) The biggest gainers will be builders. WHY??? Becasue foreign companies are NOT ALLOWED to buy real estate here, but take it on lease. A typical lease will be in crores per month for a full mall.

c) Now there are many many politicians and their sons and son in laws who own these maega malls or want to have malls which they can give on lease. EVEN the Saint VP SIngh’s son owns malls in Lucknow….

d) Builders like DLF etc who are huge can certainly benefit in crores and crores.

NOW IS THERE SOME SON OR SON IN LAW WHO PUSHED THIS CASE FOR FDI FOR RETAIL ??? !!!

Vinodji I would luv the answer…..

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Praveen Saxenaji, Rajeev, Rajiv, Gopi, Gurpreet, Trapdaar and also Prahlad,

a very informative, unbiased article in the Indian Express with practical proposals to “solve” the problem:
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/muddling-through-retail-reform/881591/0

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A certain builder has posted some nonsense , which is essentiallt a reflection of his ROTE LEARNING in school and college. SUPERMARKETS of the scale of west cannot be built near the residential area , PLANNING PERMISSION PROHIBITS IT also it NEEDS MASSIVE SPACE FOR THE GIANT ARTICULATED LORRIES TO GET IN AND OUT.
Most of them will be out of the residential areas, SO THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF SCOPE FOR KIRANAS.
By this PORKY logic . we shouldn’t have had TELEVISION , for it killed off our RADIO MANUFACTURING , or should have stopped SONY AND SAMSUNG so that BPL and ONEIDA can prosper.
The bottom line is ECONOMY OF SCALE , this is the NAME OF THE GAME , which a structural engineer will find impossible to fathom

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Retail debate, WHO STANDS WHERE

For foreign investment= Sir Sardar Balwinder from Hayes (with caution), Manohar, Prahlad, Rajiiv
Against= Gopi, Vijay, Shenoy, RajeevS, Praveen Saxena, Vijay, Ishwar
Ambivalent= Gurpreet (puttar, not allowed, Sikhs think clearly one way or another)

Good I am happy, good minds all, voting independenly or maybe some still pushing pro Congress or anti Sonia anti Congress line.
SHOEB, DR SHAH, DR MISHRA , DR PANKAJ, pl u come online and vote/ debate

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The fast uniting opposition is not on firm ground either. Till 2004, the BJP saw merit in permitting FDI in retail and had even included it in the “India Shining” manifesto. Its change of heart took place only when it vacated the Treasury benches. Its concern about the viability of operations of the eight million-odd “kirana” shopkeepers, many of whom

reportedly tend to be its political supporters, may be genuine, but is more in nature of an apprehension than based on well-founded empirical facts. The modern large-store format of retailing run by domestic giants has been around in India for about 15 years. Its effects on the mom-and-pop stores that dot the Indian retail landscape has been to make them more nimble in operations and creative in customer service. Almost all have managed to survive the competition, with the consumer being the ultimate beneficiary.

NOT MY WORDS BUT FROM THE INDIAN EXPRESS ARTICLE KINDLY PROVIDED BY AN EX BANK MANAGER FROM KONKAN

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WHY INDIA 2015 NEEDS SUPERMARKETS.
My recent trip to calcutta revealed to me few extraordinary changes. CAR USAGE HAS ASTRONOMICALLY EXPANDED. Lot of NEW TOWNSHIPS like RAJARHAT is full of HIGH RISE and is essentially OUT OF THE CITY CENTRE. where the BPO’s and IT cos are located. For these people (who will multiply in crores in coming years) supermarket shopping is the only way to get all they need AND THEN RETREAT INTO THEIR HIGH RISES , where there are no kiranas as land prices have kept them away.

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As you all must have read, the Prime Minister has put is foot down – no roll back. Now let us see what the opposition will do – the ball is in their court.

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Is the PM of India misleading the country?
How do farmers benefit from Walmart ? How do common consumers get food items and items of daily use at lower prices at Walmart… With all their glamour and razz matazz ? Will they compete with Big Bazaar for the Aam Admi or go for the Rich who have more money to splash on lifestyle goods ?
Me thinks if farmers and consumers alike have to benefit from a reform , then it is to allow farmers to bring their produce directly to market or move around with carts or in whatever manner to sell their produce to consumers. There should be no restriction that all produce has go to Mandis or the organized Markets . Police or municipal authorities should be prevented from harassing these farmers.
Although nowadays it is not so frequent that we see farmers directly bringing their wheat or rice or vegetables and selling it , but I recall that this was more common earlier and the farmers would always sell at lower prices.

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Praveen Saxenaji,

the way Walmart is being mentioned with awe, respect and wonder, it appears they are coming to India with only one motive- a noble one at that, of helping the Indians eat better, live better and not care for anything, because Walmart sells their ware without a paisa profit.

The congressie troll here says: “As you all must have read, the Prime Minister has put his foot down”.

Now why would an eighty year old man dare to stamp his foot hard on the floor on the side of Walmart, if he were not sufficiently arm-twisted by you-know-who? And when he is arm-twisted sufficiently hard and painfully enough, why would he care for the country?

Soon, you can hear the war cry from the congress: “We R’smart, we want Walmart”.

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now india has become colony of corporates.our sovereignity has already been compromised.brhmns invited foreign invaders including mahmood of ghaznavi,then baber ,then britishers now corporates.

ngos and journalists in libya were spying and helping genocidal nato bombing foreign rats which killed 200000 people.was stopped on howleen..these corporates and their employees are working for their bosses.
all brhmnst from bjp congress is supporting take over of indiao Pranab Mukherjee is proving himself as the Best Chieftain of Vedic Violence in India in more than one ways. He was instrumental to pass the Citizenship Amendment Act to Deport the SC OBC Bengali resettled Refugees. It was no one but Pranab who Helped the Marxist Brahaminical gestapo to continue in Power for so long killing the Opposition. Again as the Brahamin Marxists have been Discredited , it is Pranab who ENSURES Parivartan with Replacing Bhattacharya with Banerjee! It is Pranab who is against Regulation of Foreign capital Inflow and does head almost all Parliamentary Committees to PUSH for Economic Ethnic Cleansing. Pranab who quoted Chanakya in his Budgetary speech, now UNVEILS the Statue of Chankya nowhere else but in Nagpur which is the Hindutva headquarter thanks to RSS.He sustains the legacy of LAL, BAL, PAL and Hindu Mahasabha leaders who CONSPIRE to kill Indian aboriginal, Indigenous and Minority Communities with the Partition Holocaust which continues even today.

The lesson from Sirte(last city in libya to fall) must go down in the annals of the collective identity of humankind as a classic and historic tale of resilience and virtue and determination, the fight to survive against the most tremendous odds – a handful of loyalists and Libyan Patriots standing fast against marauding gangs of cowards and traitors, foreign mercenaries, looters, rapists, murderers, torturers and terrorists.
thsiis i the ways to live freely.otherwise all our wealth will be sucked by coporates like
east india company.
at the moment we have to obey their orders like pakis.wall mart will finish middle class
khudra traders.this is sad.i have seen this destruction in middle east.

now our yoga gurus in west are teaching yoga in completely naked destroying the families.kim kirdishian husband divorce her when when he saw this seen.

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Hot debate is going on about FDI in retail. Do not pretend to be an economist ( well no body else either) so like everybody else, it will be a lay man’s observation. But before that, my impression about India, which has changed a lot in last few years. will try to be brief. Terminal 3 at Delhi, what a relief, world class Airport, not best but not ugly either and functional. Workers appear friendy, as against previous experience of yesteryears. Rows of Taxis available, comfortable but costly. paid, Re. 800 for a oneway ride from Terminal 3 to my destination in Delhi, surprised, still cheaper than in west but so much different from fare structure of yesteryears. Fly overs all around, movement facilitated in wee hours but during rush hours, not much difference. Crowds are intimidating, prices for everything prohibitive, even with glitzy malls, quality of life has deteriorated, and I have a feeling that I have lost my Delhi of my formative years.
Had a rush tour of 5-6 cities, travelling has become comfortable with facilities but again, fare appear prohibitive. It appears that things have improved substantially for a section of people, but what about people at large, can not say. Had a hurried affair with Rajinder da dhaba in south Delhi, Annapurna in Yusuf sarai, and could see friend in Safdarjang. could not visit Dr. Shah Alam khan at AIIMS because of time constraint. Purchased a book at Teksons from south extension- Hello Bastar- Rahul Pandita, read during travel back to America, and within hours, came to know about the death of Kishenji. Can not comment, whether it was right or wrong. Appear both right and wrong. Balwinderji, Malls in Metropolitan cities appear OK, with certain conditions, market may do rest of the corrections but in tier 3 and 4 cities, malls appear incongruous. Hope, there will be no malls in villages, as opposed to America.

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This is how OUR poor are treated at hospitals.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/ndtv-special-ndtv-24×7/caught-on-camera-hospitals-humiliate-poor-patients-entitled-to-free-treatment/217249?pfrom=home-topstories

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This ‘FDI in Retail’ Card is Congressi attempt to make a deal with Opposition so that Parliament can function in smoother way.
1. Congress will want NDA to take back boycott of Chidambaram and break away from left on Price rise issue and also mute down opposition to Congress sponsored corruption.
2. In return Congress will take back ‘FDI in retail’.

Once this is achieved Congress will-
3. Introduce Communal violence Bill and isolate BJP on that issue.
4. At the end of the session, Congress friendly media will hail this session as Congress victory.

No one is serious about burning issue of Corruption and Price rise and I mean no one including BJP.

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@the ex bank manager from Konkan WITH HATE , a tutorial on ECONOMY OF SCALE
Economies of scale

Economies of scale are the cost advantages exploited by expanding the scale of production in the long run. The effect is to reduce long run average costs over a range of output.

These lower costs represent an improvement in productive efficiency and can feed through to consumers in lower prices. But economies of scale also give a business a competitive advantage in the market-place. They lead to lower prices and higher profits!

The table below shows a simple representation of economies of scale. We make no distinction between fixed and variable costs in the long run because all factors of production can be varied. As long as the long run average total cost (LRAC) is declining, economies of scale are being exploited.

Long Run Output (Units)

Total Costs (£s)

Long Run Average Cost (£ per unit)

1000

12000

12

2000

20000

10

5000

45000

9

10000

80000

8

20000

144000

7.2

50000

330000

6.6

100000

640000

6.4

500000

3000000

6

Returns to scale and costs in the long run

The table below shows a numerical example of how changes in the scale of production can, if increasing returns to scale are exploited, lead to lower long run average costs.

Factor Inputs

Production

Costs

(K)

(La)

(L)

(Q)

(TC)

(TC/Q)

Capital

Land

Labour

Output

Total Cost

Average Cost

Scale A

5

3

4

100

3256

32.6

Scale B

10

6

8

300

6512

21.7

Scale C

15

9

12

500

9768

19.5

Costs: Assume the cost of each unit of capital = £600, Land = £80 and Labour = £200

Because the % change in output exceeds the % change in factor inputs used, then, although total costs rise, the average cost per unit falls as the business expands from scale A to B to C.

Increasing Returns to Scale

Much of the new thinking in economics focuses on the increasing returns to scale available to a company growing in size in the long run. If a business can sell more output, it may become progressively easier to sell even more output and reap the benefits of large-scale production.

An example of this is the computer software business. The overhead costs of developing new software programs are huge – often running into hundreds of millions of dollars or pounds – but the marginal cost of producing additional copies of the product for sale in the market is close to zero. If a company can establish itself in the market in providing a piece of software, positive feedback from consumers will expand the customer base, raise demand and encourage the firm to increase production. Because the marginal cost of production is so low, the extra output reduces average costs, giving the business the scope to exploit economies of size. Lower costs normally mean higher profits and increasing financial returns for the shareholders of a business.

The long run average cost curve

The LRAC curve or ‘envelope curve’ is drawn on the assumption of their being an infinite number of plant sizes – hence its smooth appearance. The points of tangency between LRAC and SRAC curves do not occur at the minimum points of the SRAC curves except at the point where the minimum efficient scale (MES) is achieved.

If LRAC is falling when output is increasing then the firm is experiencing economies of scale. For example a doubling of factor inputs in the production process might lead to a more than doubling of output leading to increasing returns to scale.

Conversely, When LRAC rises, the firm experiences diseconomies of scale, and, If LRAC is constant, then the firm is experiencing constant returns to scale.
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Sorry , please follow the link , this disqus doesn’t let in tables
tutor2u.net/…notes/a2-micro-economies-diseconomies-of-scale.htm

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some more about supermarkets
Supermarkets compete by cutting costs, assuring consistency
from day to day, and raising product quality and diversity.
This is done through improvements in co-ordination and
logistics systems, contracts with wholesalers and producers,
and private standards specifying quality, safety, volume and
packaging of products.
An increase in the scale and volume of procurement is
driven by supermarket expansion, and centres are set up to
procure products from large areas, handle large volumes,
serve a large number of stores and work with suppliers
whose scale, capital, managerial and organisational capacity
are sufficient to meet the requirements of the procurement
system. In general, this prompts new investment by suppliers,
which is expensive but generally perceived as ‘worth it’ if a
supplier can get on a supermarket’s procurement list.
http://www.odi.org.uk/resources/download/1312.pdf

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A detailed debate on FDI in retail. Worth watching..

http://khabar.ndtv.com/PlayVideo.aspx?id=217180

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Ishwar

You wrote in response to my post.

“The hen – you have your answer – don’t ask me how?

Wow! You must be the only one ever in this universe to know that the hen came first. Everyone since the advent of man on this planet has and is still wondering.

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Jokes aside, if Walmart wants to set its shop here (looking at the size of the growing middleclass), it might have bribed those in power as it does elsewhere where it has its operations. That’s the reason for the hurry. Apart from that, the reasons suggested by Vijay (the son-in law angle) also fits the bill here”.

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Yes, jokes aside.

Your posts are only harping upon Walmart and conspiracy theories. You did not answer my question earlier – about other chains – Tesco, Carrefour, etc.? Aren’t they going to be allowed in, because they have not paid huge bribes to your “beloved” Rajmata and Amul baby and of course the son-in-law angle and Rajmata’s family members in Italy to make the picture complete.

Neither you have answered supplementary questions to that – Did Modi go to China to collect huge bribes and put them in some safe place, before allowing Chinese to invest in Gujarat ? What was the hurry for Modi to go to China? He could have waited after the next state elections in 2012/2013? I can ask you more ludicrous questions. Why did Nitin Gadkari go to London in July? Did he go to collect black money (hey, what colour is the British currency these days?) for UP elections? What was the hurry?

Talk nonsense, you get nonsense response and questions.

I have no proof of the any of the above being so. If you have any, please let the public know.

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The advent of another nautanki
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Once again Anna threatens govt, warns of protest

http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/Chunk-HT-UI-HomePage-TopStories/Once-again-Anna-threatens-govt-warns-of-protest/Article1-775615.aspx

Shouldn’t he be telling the opposition parties first not to stall the parliament? How can the bill be debated and passed.if the parliament is not allowed to function?

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Ashish,
Let me add my own two bits here with your very fine response to Shenoy as a starting point :
This is what you wrote :
“Shenoy,
Is your opposition to:
– large format retail, per se?
- or, foreign ownership?
If it is the former, can you tell me why you do not oppose Big Bazar, Reliance Superstore and so on?”
Just today afternoon – re-visiting this blog – I had precisely those same doubts about the opposition FDI in retail is facing. Commuting back from my workplace after somewhat drunken tryst with my hostel roomy (am over 270 m.l. plus of Whiskey as I write this response) saw me re-visiting this blog , reading your response brought me a smile , truly.
So, to the discussion….
Let me start with easier points first – the Congress Government’s claims :
1> 10 Million of Jobs being created in Retail : Absolutely un-substantiated claim. Here goes the reasoning … Walmart’s yearly sales exceeds India’s total Retail Sector output by 40 p.c. And yet, the overall employment is roughly 2 million . So , where are these remaining 8 million going to come from ? In case it interests you – a much detailed treatise may be found at : http://prajatantra.blogspot.com/2011/11/fdi-in-retail-finally-bulldoze.html . This particular blogpost goes to an extent of providing documentary links for Parliametary committee’s own ecaluation report on retail.
2> Boon to the farming sector : Really ? Think again . What is the constraint that farming sector is facing today ? Is it lack of market or is it lack of finance ? Here, on this blog itself – we have discussed this point severally. Treatise by P. Sainath on farming sector (and much much earlier – somewhat congruently expressed by V. M Dandekar committee in context of agriculture in Maharashtra). So, how is Walmart going to help ? Or rather, how much substantially ?

And yet , despite all the brouhaha in our Parliament I keep getting that nagging question. Why now ? Why not earlier ? Earlier, as in when “big retail” got its permit. What is so special about Walmart that it could be so devastating and the chain of Reliance or More couldn’t .
My own hypotheses goes somewhat like this – the opposition that we are seeing now in parliament is not at all represeing the “Kirana wallahs”. They are anyway to inconsequential to matter as much in parliament. This polity is just not representing them. There are other two vocal classes who are going to be affected and could weild enough clout. One is obviously the “local” “big retail”. The second one is probably a conglomerate of traders who could lose their clout vis-a-vis the small local traders.
These probably are the fault-lines that are currently finding expression in our parliament .

As for the small retailers – well its a vastly complex topic. Perhaps as complex as environmental sciences. Requiring analytical skills as complex and sharp as those environmentalists who analyse the (for instance) impact of smuggled Carp Fish on native aquaculture. Unfortunate aspect of our own polity is , both the skills and will are missing as the economic Carp fish continues to nibble its way , now being Reliance – then being Walmart. And yet , finally , we keep asking ourselves – how come Maoists got such a strong foothold.

p.s. : Proud to be JNU type , left leaning , Amnesti Jholawalla Marathi Mumbaikar with propensity for cheap Whiskey and a promoter of fine oriental porn.

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i think wall mart we can make easily.india has the largest pool of educated people in the world.51%fdi should be opened in the field of defence.licenses should be issued to companies with most advance and latest technology.

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@mahesh , interesting post , but not convincing at all. There should be no illusion just mere arrival of SUPERMARKET chains and India is catapulted to FIRST WORLD. far from it. BUT THERE IS NO DOUBT AT ALL , THEY WILL IMPART A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY IN EVERY FIELD INCLUDING AGROECONOMY.
In maharashtra you have seen how a tiny application of science TRANSFORMED nasik , and adjoining areas with grapes production.More later Arsenal match on

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Balwinder praaji, you have done a great job in moderating this blog.
You summarised as follows-
For foreign investment= Sir Sardar Balwinder from Hayes (with caution), Manohar, Prahlad, Rajiiv
Against= Gopi, Vijay, Shenoy, RajeevS, Praveen Saxena, Ishwar
Ambivalent= Gurpreet (puttar, not allowed, Sikhs think clearly one way or another)
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well praaji somewhat surprisingly I find myself in an opposite camp from my usual cyber friends- I AM FOR THIS FDI IN RETAIL- but hey it is our country, if after 5 years we find we dont like something- we can always modify it
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Gopi, Shenoy etc- can I say- India trebled its food production since 1948- but at least 20% of grain and 30% of fruit and veg rots. Now we gave our society 60 years to stop this CRIMINAL WASTE- but as Balwinder says-we are a nation oh ‘hand wringers’- all talk- so give technology a chance

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Let us assume that in the next 5 years Punjab has 50 Supermarkets and 5 Hyper markets.

Then which of these is likely to happen.

1. Will the FARMS stay as they are or will they become larger.

2. Will the Packaging and resultant waste, stay the same or increase.

3. Will people change shopping habits from daily shopping to weekly shopping.

4. Will this be the start of out of town shopping or not.

5. Will these super markets be in our congested cities or outside them

6. Will the food, start to look good but taste worse.

7. Will fresh meat give way to frozen packs

8. What size will these super markets be and will they have sufficient car parking.

9. Will weekly shopping require increased storage needs in an average Indian 2 bed flat.

10. Finally will we be able to get good quality cheese and Tonic water. Or not?

11. Will Indian palette accept Marmite

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@Ravi all the questions posed by you are straight out of the ASDA experience. The WAITROSE experience and MARKS AND SPENCER experience is totally different MOSTLY POSITIVE.What will happen is FARM PRODUCTIVITY WILL GO UP , new lands will be cultivated, buy one get one free and OTHER TRICKS will make indian consumers buy more. Buy more will lead to produce more , generally leading to stimulating the economy. I have experience of “INDIAN” supermarkets (if you can call them supermarkets), the one in calcutta is called SPENCERS.It is full of IMPORTED GOODIES, like pasta , jam like st dalfour that you get in TESCO in uk , oregano etc.
the indian goods are not good. It has hardly made any impact to the west bengal economy.
Bottom line is ECONOMY OF SCALE , they may source slippers in MILLIONS if indian cos can supply them. take papaya ,in UK i see then coming from Venezuela , in calcutta the tree grows by the road side , no proper cultivation .
Take tinned tomatoes , UNKNOWN IN INDIA , supermarkets may introduce thus providing a way to incease the shelf life.
Also chicken , lamb production will increase , they may source for their international inventory.
Parking will not be provided ,land is too scarce.
Remember during WORLD CUP Tesco was selling beer cheaper than bottled water.
FOOD PRICES ARE BOUND TO DROP if all the western practices are adopted .
Also Even if 8 million job is created instead of 10 ,as mahesh alleges , it should be a GROUND BREAKING PROJECT

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Dr.Mishra, balwinderji,

It is good that you two have come on the side of ‘yes sayers’ to FDI in retail.
You have also spoken of the huge wastage of food grains and fruits and vegetables for the last sixty years.

You believe, too, that MNC’s like Walmart ansd Spencers would make it their leit motiv to stop India from losing billions in this manner.

I have just three points:

1.Was the absence of FDI the reason for our government not taking required steps to save lossese due to rotting?

2. Why Walmart was thrown out of the country by Germany?

3. Is the experience of countries who have FDI’s of 51%-100% uniformly good?

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Walmart wants to enter India because India has a growing ‘middle class’.
But right now the entire country is being turned into a growing ‘muddle class’.

Those who support the entry of Walmart definitely have their middle growing and the ends shaking.

And those who oppose Walmart have their votes growing and wallets bulging.

And the aam aadmi is forlornly looking at the aam tree and wondering whether next season he would buy aam from Walmart or from the neighbourhood rediwala.

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Moral policing
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Love under siege: Cops harass couples in parks in Ghaziabad

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Love-under-siege-Cops-harass-couples-in-parks-in-Ghaziabad/articleshow/10923488.cms

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Is the PM of India running with the hares and hunting with the hounds?…. Or is he too Majboor ?

On the interministerial note on 2G which brought out the war between the FM of India and Home Minister of India , the facts as revealed by Pranab Mukerjea’s second letter (duly leaked) and not denied by anyone , are that it was the PM of India who was the architect of that note which sought to point the needle of suspicion on P Chidambaram.

And now of on ” FDI in Retail” the timing …and the decision itself is being questioned by his own Party. He first announced the decision , then he called for All Party Meet , in that Meet the FM says that he shall apprise the PM of the views of the Parties, and the PM goes on to announce in the Youth Congress Meet that he is firm on the decision….. taken it to a point of no return..
So is he doing it deliberately? Is he a friend of the Opposition and intent on digging the grave of his own Party ?… Or is he under someone’s pressure? …who stands to gain from this decision..the Real Estate biggies as Vijay Kumar pointed out and those who have invested in those biggies . and whose influence he cannot ignore ?
These are times of scams and scams by this government …and lurking questions shall certainly come to fore.

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@Ex bank manager from Konkan, DONT SPREAD CANARDS, Wal mart was not thrown out of germany , BUT IT IS NOT A SUCCESS IN GERMANY having made losses od 1 billion Euro.THIS IS BECAUSE GERMAN RETAILING WAS ALLREDY SATURATED , with german majors ALDI ,METRO and host of others .
However this is WALMART
Wal-Mart‘s Retail Link-system, the backbone of its sophisticated inventory
management and logistics infrastructure, is the biggest civilian database in the

world (second only to the Pentagon’s, but holding three times more data than the
US Internal Revenue Service’s mainframes).
• It is operating the world’s biggest private satellite communications system,
allowing it, amongst other things, to track sales, to replenish inventories and to
process payments in real-time, and even to regulate the temperature in individual
stores.
• Wal-Mart’s 2003 turnover is three times higher than Carrefour’s, the world’s
no. 2 retailer (Table 1), and equivalent to the combined revenues of Germany‘s
Top 30 retailers.7
Wal Mart is a huge success in latin america “EVEN WHERE IT CANNOT GET ITS GIANT ARTICULATED LORRIES IN”

Bottom line is IF FOREIGN CAR MANUFACTURERS TRANSFORMED INDIA’S CAR INDUSTRY with Tata producing world beating product in Nano , AND BAJAJ devoloping small car to be MARKETED BY RENAULT NISSAN
same should happen to india’s AGRO BUSINESS which is in a STONE AGE

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Majority back FDI in retail

http://www.hindustantimes.com/images/HTPopups/301111/30-11-pg10a.jpg

The opposition parties (as usual) are completely out of tune, as they were in case of the Nuclear Deal. Some people never learn or choose to be in denial.

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History of the Bush Family

very interesting must watch on u tube

ravi,ashish&shan,balwinder …

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1.Headlines today report:

…..”Key UPA allies and Opposition step up heat on government over the FDI issue.”

2. Indian Express report:

“FDI deadlock: Congress core group meet fails to find answers:

With its government in a knot over foreign direct investment in the retail sector, the ruling Congress Party was unable to come up with any answers in a brain-wracking core committee meet held today.

“No decision,” an informed source said after the hour-long meeting that took place at the residence of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh which was also attended by Congress President Sonia Gandhi.”

3. Hindustan Times report:

“Finance minister Pranab Mukherjee meets Congress MPs after calling on party president Sonia Gandhi to discuss the standoff with the opposition.”

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At this point… the government may just get tossed inot the dustbin of history. Unlike the nuke deal in which most parties saw India getting technology and strenght, the FDI think looks like a sell out.

Now the US is pushing this as much as a famous son in law for future generations.

So the COngress should bargain with the US to get into the UN security council. We will open the market to ur giants. U make us feel strong. That should be the message.

Given the fact that the US desperately needs allies in Asia right now and needs markets for its companies, it could well back India at this point.
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Well when they could get Taiwan the seat, after chacha Nehru said he considered “Big brother China more suitable for the UNSC, ” the US could well bend right now…

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yesterday wife of pakistani prime minister made purchasing of 800000 pound from harod london.he prime minister of a country where trains are not running because they have no money to buy diesel.

reports according to Transparency International’s corruption perception index, India scored 3.1 on a scale from zero to 10, where anything below five is bad news. Last year, India scored 3.3. The country’s rank is better than Pakistan (No. 134) and Nepal, which at rank No 154 is perceived to be the most corrupt country in South Asia.

hum kisi se kum nahin.

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WRITE ABOUT VIR SANGHVI, BARKHA DUTT, PRABHU CHAWLA,(RADIA WALE) NDTV, HT & YOURSELF.JUST THINK WHY YOU PEOPLE ALWAYS FOUND ON CONGRESS BED??????????????????? ANY SHAME FOR THIS ?????????????????? OR FEEL GREAT?

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Even as we try and take a closer look at the politicians and their shenanigans , we find they are all the same . Last week the country witnessed how Mayawati pulled out the “Divide UP in 4 parts “ act and the Bill was passed in 20 minutes flat….. Now what do the great champions of Parliamentary Democracy and why Anna should be assailed for his extra parliamentary dictatorship have to say about this conduct of our Legislators
But is Manmohan Singh any different ? …..Probably not . And this is why I firmly believe view that they are all alike , just the way they would like the country to believe that it is all about upholding the ideals of their “Secularism.”
Let us quickly run through what the Editors of HT have to say about the Manmohan Singh’s “Warm Welcome to Walmart “ act
Shishir Gupta
……..After the unseemly “Memogate” controversy over the 2G spectrum allocation, the FDI in retail decision has only strengthened that both the party and government were at times working at cross purposes…….
………It is not that the Congress High Command is opposed to retail. The issue here is whether enough due diligence was done by the government before the decision as it has widespread political ramifications particularly in poll-bound Uttar Pradesh…….
Pankaj Vohra
Last week I had written that the logjam in Parliament was probably to stall the Lok Pal Bill. As events have started unfolding, the presumption is coming out to be correct. …..
……The thinking could be that the continuation of this government has always had question marks over it and therefore it is better to shift the focus from corruption to FDI. Many cynics believe that it will not be so hard on either the Prime Minister or the party if it government gets isolated on FDI rather than corruption. At least the honour will be preserved. In any case, the Lok Pal bill will be a casualty.
Vinod Sharma
…..The dip test in Punjab will confirm or dispel the widely articulated apprehensions, showing the country the way forward on the issue made controversial by the sheer timing of it……
Now .. what Vinod Sharma has to say notwithstanding , as he is a die-hard Congress fan , and would always try to find a way out to bail it out the with all the ingenuity at his command …it appears that the “Allow FDI in Retail “ by Manmohan Singh was more about politics and saving face than all the Economics reasons he touts in public .

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Can small supplier deal with these big retailers ? They have stringent rules
when procuring goods from suppliers, which will be almost impossible
for small suppliers to deal with these big retailers.
This is my personal experience. We have a business in Mumbai and
we tried to become one of the supplier to a big retailers of India.
1. To be their supplier, the local purchaser has to be bribed.
2. The godown incharge where you deliver the goods has to bribed, otherwise
he will keep your trucks waiting for hours before unloading your goods.
3. Brible is paid to the quality controller who will inspect your goods, otherwise
for a very very minor mistake your whole consignment will be rejected.
4. Credit for six months.
5. If I sell them goods of one crore in a month, I need atleast six crore of
capital just to deal with one party.
6. Supplier is suppose to give them the guarantee of the x amount of goods
which has be supplied to them at one week’s notice. Supplier has to always keep
that much stock whtether he gets a order or not. There is a penalty clause if
your not able to fullfill such orders in time. To avoid this penalty supplier will have to always keep that stock which will require more capital.

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Many disturbing news during the week (the leasdt of it the FDI in retail) -
- Mr Devvraj,senior engineer of Bangalore Corp who submitted a report on the multcrore rupee scandal /scam in bangalore corporation regarding fake construction bills is ridiculed by MLAs/Corporation members belonging to both BJP and congress (both have been stealing) (shenoy, any light into this?)
- A high risk situation with a dam potentially flooding three populous Kerala districts; with nobody doing anything about this other than mutual accusations (bbetween kerala and Tamil nadu! as if theya re two diff sovereign countries)
- the connecrtion between several young Muslim boys and Karachi based terrror cells/bombing of pune German bakery, and three other bombings – the leader of the terrorist group being a RICH Muslim from Bhatkal (JNUtypes will still sy poverty drives terrorism)–

And the news about Egyptian elections – Muslim Brotherhood seems to have obtained a decisive majority in their parliament — so much for Arab spring! Al Queda’s chief Al Zawahari started as a Muslim Brotherhood member!

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~~~ AS PREDICTED BY ME– The Congress has stifled TIMES NOW ~~~
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Two blogs back I had predicted that the libel case against Times Now of 100 crores would be used by the COngress to arm twist it.

Those who are watching it for the past few days would see that Times Now has changed course now. Sad that Congress has managed to stiffle Arnab, the true voice of India.

He is now forced to take the COngress line.

Vinodji… are you happy or sad about this?

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The evil ice.
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When you drink vodka over ice, it can give you kidney failure.
When you drink rum over ice, it can give you liver failure.
When you drink whiskey over ice, it can give you heart problems.
When you drink gin over ice, it can give you brain problems.

Apparently, ice is really bad for you.
Warn all your friends.

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terrorist modi is right.GUJRAT IS SPECIAL.

Gujarat cops can’t be trusted, CBI to probe Ishrat case: HC

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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD NEWSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ~~~
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US does not apologise to Pakistan. But shows this as a revenge for death fo the seals !!

Jolly good !! Bloody Good !!

Dear Ravi autar Engrich. Run for cover. Muridke may be next !!

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GOOOOOOOOOD NEWWWWWWWWWWWWS
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Rajiv Shukla has told the Times TV that the government is actively considering putting the FDI issue ON HOLD.

If MMS knows about it, ie. if Sonia Gandhi has cared to tell him after asking Shukla to announce it, it means the UPA government has developed cold feet and considers, even at this late stage that DISCRETION IS BETTER PART OF VALOUR.

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What the ex bank manager from Konkan writes is simply BOLLOCKS.
Anand Sharma came to NDTV today and had a free ride with barkha backhander dutt..
In fact his job wasn’t difficult at all , a bit like Barcelona playing Churchill brothers of Goa.
Also this whole thing shows HOW UNPATRIOTIC BJP IS, the LEFT IS GADDAR EVERYONE KNOWS, NOW WE KNOW THE TRUE FACE OF BJP.
I mean even if Supermarket chains come , it wont be for another FIVE YEARS till the first outlet is opened.INDIA NEEDS TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THINGS.
THE FEDERAL STRUCTURE .I think HEALTH AND EDUCATION SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT FROM THE HANDS OF STATES , AND MANGED BY THE CENTRE.
This will ensure UNIFORMITY AND ALSO 15% OF gdp NEEDS TO GO INTO IT.
Need to tax the rich and the corporates.
BONFIRE OF ALL ANTIQUATED LAWS.
I was taking out my OWN MONEY which i had deposited over the years in POUND STERLING in HSBC bank.
One of the papers i had to fill in had a declaration “THIS MONEY WILL NOT BE USED FOR IMMORAL PURPOSES” , sounds like BANANA REPUBLIC doesn’t it.Even it were used for paying off tarts , is CBI going to come to UK to investigate.
THERE ARE COUNTLESS SUCH UTTER BULL SHIT IN EVERY FACET OF LIFE, WHICH NEEDS TO BE EXPUNGED.
Regarding Corruption in PRIVATE SECTOR , DO REMEMBER IT IS MANNED BY INDIANS. In UK the NRI centres of HSBC is a real joke , YOU WILL NEVER FIND ANYBODY TO TALK TO, The difference in service between NRI centres and LOCAL GORA centres ARE JUST LIKE HSBC INDIA AND BANK OF INDIA OR STATE BANK BRANCHES IN INDIA.
Maybe 500 yrs of gulami , or the vile caste system, INDIANS HAVE NO CONCEPT OF HONOUR , AND WORK ETHICS, FOR THAT MATTER ETHICS OF ANY KIND.That is why we see the THIRD WORLD PARLIAMENTARIANS , whose only preoccupation is disprupting parliament FOR ANYTHING ELSE WILL DEMAND THE USE OF PHILBUT which is of same quality as that of Balwinder
Let the abuse begin(with due acknowledgment to Ravi for borrowing his phrase)

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LUCKNOW: In a state ruled by a Dalit chief minister, a 14-year-old Dalit boy was allegedly murdered merely because he shared his name with an upper caste neighbour in Basti on Thursday. The accused, Neeraj Chaudhary (25), is unemployed, and belongs to a backward caste himself.

The teenager’s body was found in the forests on the outskirts of Raghupur village in Lalganj area of Basti on November 23. He was identified as Neeraj Kumar, son of a vegetable vendor Ram Sumer.

A student of Class VII at a government school, Neeraj had left the house after dinner on November 22, to watch TV at a classmate’s house. He was untraceable ever since.

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Manohar, on Muslim brotherhood winning elections in Egypt “Saudis must be laughing all the way to the mosque” Incisive sirji, troubled times. Egyptians I meet in mybusiness travels are very moderate, friendly, bollywood loving pro India folk. Not sure anymore now.
..but Manohar, you disappoint when u use phrase like hindu rate of growth. This silly term was coined by Brits in sixties to sneer, why we indians parrot it? What we call 9 percent growth now, MARTIAN ??
Shan of cingulate singularly stuck up white man bottom, happy with another post slamming Indians. You have less respect than engrich on blog now.

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Pakistan, the land of conspiracy theories and fake martyrs is now truly at crossroads.

Either it is back to marshal law and Kiyani rule …

Or

It faces upto truths, that it is a hated jehadi monster.

The NATO attack on its soldiers was deliberate to show it its true place. I can bet my last fake currency not from the ISI press in Muridke, that the Pakistanis deliberately provoked the attack or at least fired first. Good that Obama has taken a stern stance. Otherwise Pakistan would hae acted as a fake martyr and got away again !

Ab Kiyani ki kahani to purani ho gayi So it is better that Pakistan changes.

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Shenoy sahab

ek poem ho jaye. I am giving you the first lines. Arz hai….

Gilani Kayani ki kahaani
Toh puraani, puraani ho gayi….

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Arao

Just to respond to some of your points:

Existing retail companies do not have this money??? Any company which has a well thought out Business Plan is able to go to the Money market, as well as their existing share holders and raise funds. So I am not sure why you think that this is an FDI issue.

There is no price difference If the road side shops are able to compete with Super markets then that can only be good news, is that not what you believe?

directly procuring from farmers your point seems that all the profit previously made by a myriad of middle men will dis-appear from the chain. If no value is being added by the middle men (brokers/agents) then how can this be a bad thing. Furthermore, Supermarkets will stock a wide variety of good which are not farm goods and they may still be procured via wholesalers/consolidators.

What difference will it make to existing retail giants? The same difference if a NEW INDIAN BUSINESS had entered the retail sector. The fact that under the FDI it will be foreign competitors should only have a beneficial impact on other Indian Business’s in this sector.

dumping ground Your fear that out of date and sub-standard goods will be dumped in India, then does not already happen and in the future a simple legislation should be able to cover it.

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The last time when the PM of India staked his personal prestige on an issue ,it was the Indo -US Nuclear Deal. To convert his Minority Govt . to a Majority one he had engaged the services of Dalla Raja and the country was witness to the” Cash for Votes” Scam , in which if it had not been for a pliant Delhi Police , who refuse to investigate the source of the money , he and his co- conspirators and abettors would be in serious trouble.
Now what trick does he have up his sleeve.Dalla Raja is in Singapore , nursing his kidneys. The hunt for the new Dalla Raja is on. Mamata refuses to play ball. He is again renegading on the Lokpal as the JanLokpal would sound the death knell of his masters. Gives more credence to the theory that he wishes to go down as a martyr for the cause of Walmart , rather than go down fighting the charge of defending corruption.

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@ Manohar

A national hero is a national hero and Patel is surely one. I never divide heroes on religious or party lines. Bhagat Singh was a member of the Communist party. he still remains my hero.

Yes as far naming goes, the Nehru family and its Chamchas take the cake. Mayawati is a megaloman iac as she is doing what Saddam did. But she learnt it from the Nehrus. That a myth could be built by obliterating the contributions of others so history only remembers the visible. Like Nehrus did to Patel.
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I nearly lost my first job when in a meeting I suggested that the particular building we were constructing could well be named after Patanjali– the founder of Yoga.

My favourite character– the all time dunce– Mani Silencer Aiyar– representing the government and chairing the meeting gave me a glare reserved for people to be thrown out for violating rules of existence.

“This can be named after Nehru or Rajiv… as they did so much for the country.” He announced. And that was it.

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Vijay

“But u have still not answered my basic question. why should muth andar hussain **** post under a fake sikh , christian and Dalit name. in such a manner to promote hatred between hinus and others”?

We have gone down this road before.

1) I am not his keeper.
2) Fake name, alias or pseudo name – what difference does it make? Let him use any alias he likes – Cleopatra, Stalin, Ching Chao, etc. Why do you get upset? Debate what he writes or ignore it. Do not provide anyone the fodder.
3) Are you so gullible that (or need his help of) his posts (rants, if you like) to actually make you hate other communities?

If someone abuses me for example (thankfully it has almost stopped – when I started royally ignoring the known culprits), it is more of a reflection on the abuser and his credentials/mindset than the target i.e. me. If it gives him the pleasure to do so, let him enjoy his momentary two-seconds under the sun, I do not wish to deprive them of the “little fun” they wish to have at my expense. I am still what I am.

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Shaan Nirad Babu,

“What the ex bank manager from Konkan writes is simply BOLLOCKS.”

Anand Sharma and Rajiv SHukla are two faces of the same confused government that is at its wit’s end.

I had quoted Rajiv Shukla, who said that the FDI issue is being considered for keeping on hold.

Now, read on: THIS IS TOI FRONT PAGE, BANGALORE EDITION.

No rollback on FDI, but no rollout very soon
Trinamool, DMK Reject PM’s Appeal
TIMES NEWS NETWORK

New Delhi: UPA partners Trinamool Congress and DMK rejected Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s appeal to drop their opposition to FDI in retail on Thursday, enhancing the possibility that the government may have to announce that it will not roll out the controversial decision.
Although a formal notification to make the Cabinet decision operational has already been put off, the unrelenting opposition from Trinamool and DMK may force the government to put it in deep freeze to appease the allies whose combined strength of 37 in Lok Sabha can help the Centre prevail in a vote on BJP-sponsored adjournment motion.
Both the Trinamool and DMK made plain their decision not to support the Cabinet decision at a meeting the PM held with allies to get them on board, accentuating fears of a prolonged logjam of Parliament and continuing legislative paralysis.
Sources said the PM told Trinamool representative Sudip Bandopadhyaya to explain to his leader, West Bengal CM Mamata Banerjee, that the Centre’s controversial decision imposed no obligation on her to let in foreign retail chains on her turf. He also said Banerjee should not come in the way of those states which may wish to benefit from the entry of foreign giants like Wal-Mart and Tesco. “Ours is a federal polity,” the PM is said to have argued.
But Congress sources were doubtful the pitch would work with Banerjee, who has been vocal in her opposition to FDI in retail.A vocal opponent of the decision, she has upped her ante too high. Besides, she also has to contend with her principal rival, the Left, which along with BJP leads the resistance to allowing foreign retailers.
Disturbingly for government, Trinamool’s sole representative in the Union Cabinet, railway minister Dinesh Trivedi who opposed the decision last week, did not attend the Cabinet meeting on Thursday.
Likewise, DMK, which reiterated its opposition through T R Baalu at the meeting with the PM, has to factor in the opposition from its principal foe, Tamil Nadu chief minister J Jayalalithaa. The AIADMK boss has emerged as a strident opponent of the decision to allow FDI in retail.

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Gopi

Very Interesting, which is up your street.

India could be China if it was less democratic: Mahathir

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/India-could-be-China-if-it-was-less-democratic-Mahathir/Article1-776912.aspx

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Anna Hazare blames Rahul Gandhi, says FDI row a ploy to block Lokpal Bill

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Anna-Hazre-blames-Rahul-Gandhi-says-FDI-row-a-ploy-to-block-Lokpal-Bill/articleshow/10958837.cms

What he says may be true. But these ’self appointed guardians’ of our society have not said a word against the stalling of the parliament by the opposition. Anyone knows why is it so?

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Engrich

You wrote

1) “people who live within geographical boundaries of India are Hindu, whether they read holy quran or guru granth saheb or vedas”.

In brief, my personal views, which you or others may not agree with.

Good thought. There has been problem though for the last 20 years or so. The right wing in India has distorted this to suit its agenda by attempting to mix religion with nationalism and patriotism, insisting that suzerainty of the Vedas be accepted by all and host of other conditions, before one can call himself/herself an Indian.

That is why now the preferred nomenclature is Indian or Bhartiya if you like, but not Hindu.

2) “hindu is nationality not religion. some evil divisive brhmns made it religion.vedics, islam sikh is religion.word britain cannot be religion.

IMO, Hinduism is neither a nationality nor a religion in the strictest sense of the word. It is more generally accepted as a way of life. There are a very large number of strands / different practices under it. The fact is the right wing has been trying to make it a monolithic order with set practices and rituals – no diversity is to be tolerated.

Coming to Sikhism, Buddhism, Jainism, etc. – I for one believe that the original protagonists did not wish to start a new religion or an order and themselves be worshiped. They were rather movements to reform the society and rid it of the evils or bad practices and make it more humane at that point in time. What followed after they were gone is a different matter altogether.

In order that there is order in the society and given its diversity – religion, language, etc., today we have the Constitution of India (which is naturally religion neutral). In a sense, this can be considered the universal and supreme religion of Indians.

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Ashish,
Continuing on the FDI Retail at the point where we left last.
BTW, Sorry that my postings have been fairly sparse and been taking long …. too much of work hardly left me with any room to respond.
So back to your response…..
You said :
“Let me make a rather provocative – even uncalled for – remark. It is not for the first time I have seen the “JNU types” cosy up to the BJP types (there, now I have done it- let a thousand enemies bloom!) in economic ideology.
I fly the flag of the right of centre. Consistently.”
Is it ? Too bad that my attempts at cosying up were lost on the “tea partiers” here on this blog. In fact, it is you who has been getting the “wah wahs” here from them.
Gives me an opportunity to try better next time.
You said :
“What is our objection? Is it ownership or the large format? Or is it to the combo?”
Well, I thought I made it clear already. My objection is on touting the FDI as engine of growth.
You Said :
“Let me see if the kirana wallas will lose their livelihood. If they do, will it be a bad thing?
Many months back, in a different context, I had made a point that no one can afford to take his occupation or avocation for granted. Especially when disruptive forces like technology come in.
When the coachmen lost their jobs- and few got re-employed as drivers- as a result of one Mr Henry Ford, it may well have been traumatic for those coachmen. But, would you rather that we never had motor cars?”
So , what do we expect here ? Kirana Wallahs step forward and commit a hara-kiri in front of the superior disruptive forces ? For a moment if your implicit assumption that it is indeed “Kirana Wallahs” that are suffering and it is indded them that are being represented by the opposition in parliament is to be accepted, my question is this – did ever evolution work this way ? “Lesser species” side-stepping on a road to suicide for “superior ones” ? Do “market forces” work this way ? I mean – just pure play competition ? By the same token we may want to join millions of those americans – who lost their jobs to out-sourcing – in celebration as we see Philippines edging us out in call center jobs. Comrade Ayn Rand ko Lal Salaam – as one would say !!!
Maybe , you may want to re-look at your assumption about market and market forces playing out a pure competition without involving polity.
While agreeing with you in general terms about “disruption” – what we may be seeing here with “big retail” is something different from just “disruption”.
(BTW, I have a rather vague feeling that “disruption” somewhat synonymous with “automation” is being looked at closely as well – for instance look at Krugman here : http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/07/opinion/07krugman.html, Autor here : http://econ-www.mit.edu/files/569 and another blog here opining on Krugman and Brad DeLong’s take : http://econfuture.wordpress.com/2011/03/07/krugman-and-delong-on-automation/).
Nobody is arguing here that we bring in and maintain a new casteism facilitating Railway Engine Foreman’s children pursuing the same profession.
And yet worries persist.
More so , because – sans a safety net (which ,btw, the first world folks enjoy – though somewhat diminishingly these days) we could be walking in towards un-mitigated disaster.
My trouble starts precisely at this point – the polity neither has any skill nor any will to understand the complexity of “free markets”. With FDI in retail – we may not exactly run into any large scale disaster, but then it would be purely flirting with randomness.
p.s. : Some 8-9 days after stalled parliamentary proceedings, do we still want to to argue that it is Kirana Wallahs running the “counter argument” ?

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~~~ NATO will bomb Pakistani terror camps ~~~ GOOOOD NEWSSSSSS ~~~
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As of now it seems that the killing of 25 soldiers was just the begining. The real fun will start now. NATO does not seem bothered by closure of Pakistani routes. It is now going to use Afghanistan as a base to decimate Pakistani terror camps.

In these conditions we Inidans should

a) Enjoy and watch the spectacle

b) Tell our jehadi bretheren like Engrich and behenoi that Allah bombs all jehadis

c) DO NOT GET CONFUSED IN SAYING THAT PAKISTANISARE THIRD WORLD BROTHERS WHO NEED HELP. fOR 30 YRS THEY HAVE BEEN sending terrorists to India. Let them be kicked in the Butt,

The Pakistanis only change with danda. As they did after 71.

e) We can provide material on Hafeez saeed etc so that LeT too is attackd. It is possible, Nato may just attack anti afghan terrorists. Let us be proactive here…

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@Manohar, thx for correction. Even if one anaemic Indian decided to call it hindu rate of economic growth= what an idiot he was= surely we should not be parroting the same. What u call 8 cent growth now, non hindu ? I rest the case.
@ Vijay, when did US say it is going to bomb terror camps in Pak lala land. And that too the ones near Indian border. Or is it wishful desire of passion on your part?
@ Mishraji, u said India has trebled food production sincs Independence. WRONG, it has quadrupled grain production, and yes one fifth rots cos in some places it is covered by polythene alone !!!!!! Can u believe sirji
Anyway, made my day, correcting panditji. My source Ed Luce book In spite of Gods, wonderful book, everyone go out and read it.
@ Mahesh, nice post but like dr pankaj says, make it byte sized
@ ravi, lay off Mr Shenoy, getting boring now. You hv way with words, put to gud use. Even engrich is trying now

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Ashish,

I told you about our friend Engrish that it is only a temprory phase and he will be
normall soon. May be it was a Muharram effect and he was in morning for a short
while.

Shan,

About your banking experience in India. I partly agree with you. I have always got excellent service here at Dubai as well as in India where NRI services are considered.
About that form where you had to answer about immoral use of funds, I will tell
you about my experience at HDFC at Bombay. I gave a cheque to the teller for withdrawing Rs. 30000/-. He asked me to write on the back of the cheque for what
purpose this money will be used. I told him that it is my money why bank wants to know the reason, but he was adamant and would not give me the cash citing
the policy of the bank/government. I wrote this on the back of the cheque
” I will throw this money in the gutter the moment I step out of this bank “.
He just smiled and give me the cash.

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Manohar,

Thanks for the link. I agree with Mahatir.
Even a strong man like Mrs indira Gandhi could not subvert the democratic system – it shows the sacredness and ‘deep rootedness’ of the system with the people. Amartya Sen, in his “Argumentative Indian” , gives a clear picture of how democracy, rule of law etc is embedded with Indians of past centuries, withvillage councils and arguments uder the village banyan tree. The greatest gift of Mahathma Gandhi is in the renovation of this ancient platform.
I do not see India going back to kings and autocrats like the Muslim countries. The debate about LokPal, further inclusion and transparency etc are the ongoing refinements. I m sure , with economic growth and improving incomes, we will move and mature into an American style democracy, where party bosses and corruption are left behind, people select their party nomines through primary system.
The latest growth figures are not good. I am afraid that UPA has lost its clutch, with them involved in internal domestic problems crisis after crisis; and the continuing and casacding Western economic problems will erode the growth further, causing slowing down of this evolution and contiuous refinement needed for ‘perfecting this democracy’

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Manohar, using words like nigger was part of parlance in USA till sixties.
Using words like Pakis on TV by comedians and then to see respected interviewer like Parkinson laugh about it, was commonplace till the seventees in UK.
But not anymore. As society refines itself, it uses more refined language.
That an Indian like you is still persisting in using this self defeating lexicon of sixtees reflects a streak that many insecure and nihilistic Indians have. I would be very surprised if Sonia, Rahul, PC, Shashi Tharoor, Advani, Salman Khurshid , Shah Nawaz, Tata using this silly phrase
you disappoint me

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@ MOhan, Ashish and Pankaj

Arre baba there is a gr8 game on and Engirch/tajendra/Ram Autar is a small pawn.

This game is called decimation of Hinduism and India. In my eyes, and in those of most people– India belongs to all religions. However in the eyes of a few nuts like Engrch the four headed Hijra, Hindus need to be insulted and other religions need to be pitted against that.

His real name is Muth Andar hussain **** as he confessed in many blogs. Strange name — but he is a strange personality.

That is why he posts as Tajendra so that some HIndu -SIkh hatred comes about.

That is why this four headed hijra posts as Ram Autar so that the breaking barriers of caste in Hinduism are re-erected

That is why he posts content of a nature that Muslims hate Hindus.

I think this four headed hijra gives us an opportunity to understand the jehadi mind, its propoganda and how it trains suicide bombers. Like Pakistan, which is berated and insulted world over– yet will neve give up Hafeez Saeed or Osama, Engrich too is stubborn in pushing jehadi propoganda.

Ravi, who supports him, wants us to appreciate this incoherent nonsense !!

Why should we !! We should rather try to study Engirch’s failed brain and try to show it to psychiatirsts on how to counter Suicide bombers and jehadis….

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Not too long ago, Ravi posted a copy of the comment he read somewhere. The language was not very decent. Here’s what I found (on ToI) which might be of some interest to him…

A Quereshi (Karachi)
5 hrs ago (11:10 AM)

It is time Allah bestows our military and politicians the good sense of understanding the benefits of peace. We fanned terrorism in Indian Punjab and then their part of Kashmir and we have been doing so for almost 30 years now. But what we have gained from this policy? We have been the aggressors with India for 4 times and have lost almost half of our territory called East Pakistan. Our leaders play macho viz-a-viz India and give us the impression of our having superior and more numerous nukes than India. The plain fact is in any future war with India, India would like to take over our part of Kashmir and would endeavour to create or carve out an independent country on our southern part. Once this happens we shall not be able to dream of fighting another war with India as India would then be able to attack us from all four sides- the 4th side being from the see as they have already had a pact with Afghanistan on our North. We are a mule in comparison to the Indian elephant yet it is we who have been harbouring aggressive designs against India since our birth. Our Mullas and military and politicians want us to live on Jihad and trudge back to the medieval period or even the stone age. May be we go back to the period of Indus civilization of the past.

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And this one is for Manohar… (from IBN Live…Updated Dec 03, 2011 at 05:56pm IST)

Mamata forces UPA Govt to put FDI in retail on hold

Main (oppose) karu to saala character dheela hai???

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The name says it all Ishwar , meaning God , If this is the intelligence who needs God.
Not that i ever thought you had any idea of mass retailing for that matter anything apart from DHANDHABAJI.
Ignorant people like you needs to be enlightened.
have you heard about the book called HUNGER by knut hamsun. No it is not about Bangladesh , it was about NORWAY. a coroner in London ruled that a woman from east london circa 1938 with NINE CHILDREN did not die from pneumonia but from HUNGER.now whom am i speaking to BALWINDER CLONE.
This MASSIVE PROSPERITY in the west has been brought about by REVOLUTION IN AGRICULTURE .There are PRIZE BULLS size of a DINASOUR whose semen is sold in refrigerated packs from denmark. There are breeds of chicken which guarantees to produce 365 eggs a year. SUPERMARKETS have played a major role in bringing or encouraging these innovations TO PUSH DOWN PRICE
THE GREATEST THING IS ECONOMY OF SCALE , which an ignorant chap like you will not fathom.

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@the ex bank manager from konkan who withheld loans unless a cut is paid.
Yes I aware of Bovine spongiform encephalopathy , as well as Scrapie , and also aware these are caused NOT BY A LIVING ORGANISM but by a protein called PRION proteins . I am also aware this EXCLUSIVELY due to feeding the cows with sheep brain and what not.
HOWEVER THAT WAS ONLY IN UK NOT EVEN USA EVER ADOPTED THIS GRISLY PRACTICE.So being a plonker that you are it is not surprising you would lump entire WESTERN agriculture with ONE MASSIVE FLAW in UK agriculture which has been LONG RECTIFIED

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KUDOS to Balwinder, Vijay and Shenoy for finally burying this stupid term- hindu rate of economic growth- surprised that it even got an airing in India.

And praaji, you may be right- when I said food production had trebled since 1948 I was making a near guess. That it has quadrupled makes me ecstatic. Now to store and distribute it properly.

I have learnt a lot from bloggers and media about FDI in retail. I think even now I am for it. Gopi, Vijay and Shenoy and Dr Pankaj- can I leave you with this taster-

“In the 21st century, companies transgess national boundaries. Tata’s sales are now 80 billion dollar, an Indian multinational whose major part of its revenue comes from abroad.. And read on- Walmart now exports, yes EXPORTS billions worth of stuff from China.”

Big business is complex, let us take this stratospheric leap into the future, lets not get left behind. With safeguards, maybe in a graded way, after an open and transparent debate.

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@manohar T, mahesh , Ravi ,
LETS BLAME THE FDI IN RETAIL AND ALSO LETS TALK ABOUT SWABHIMAAN

Similar scenes can be seen in many parts of Delhi. According to the latest official estimate, as much as 42% of the power supplied to India’s capital disappears through “transmission losses”, meaning it is consumed without being paid for. In effect, it is stolen.

Three years ago the problem was even more serious. Then transmission losses accounted for over the half the electricity distributed in Delhi.

Although Delhi has been dubbed the power theft capital of the world, the situation in other parts of India is little better.

There are no hard figures, but the best estimate is that somewhere between a third and half of the country’s electricity supply is unpaid for.

Sangeta Robinson (right)
Sangeta Robinson says the middle class is as much to blame

No other country suffers revenue losses on this scale. In China, Asia’s other emerging economic giant, no more than 3% of the nation’s power supply is lost to theft.

Spreading the blame

Slum dwellers’ unofficial hook-ups are the most visible sign of India’s power theft crisis, but there are yet bigger problems dogging the country’s energy sector.

Meter tampering by middle class households seeking to pay less than they should costs still more, says Sangeta Robinson, an official with local utility North Delhi Power Limited, a subsidiary of energy giant Tata Power.

And yet another huge loss – albeit one which no-one can quantify – is electricity theft by industrial enterprises.

Giresh Sant, who works for an NGO called Prayas campaigning for more efficient and accountable government, says the problem is one of corruption – and a vested electoral interest in turning a blind eye.

No-one likes paying their utility bills, he says, so often politicians regard laxness about revenue collection as a vote-winner.

And opportunities for personal enrichment through corruption related to industrial power theft have given them, as well as civil servants and utility officials, further incentives not to rock the boat.

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Vijay Kumar Kahplodia

A word of warning, when it comes to abusive behaviour, if you choose to continue, I can out wit you even if I was comatose.

So indulge in that form of behaviour at your own risk.

I may retaliate in a language that may not amuse you.

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Mishraji you say Walmart exports billions from China !!! Billions of WHAT? They are retailers not manufacturers. Pl u provide link.
But if you are right, as u usually are, then how come govt has not advertised from top of roof?? There used to be a blogger here who had business in China, was it mohan or Prabhat

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As usual, some have found a way to interject their antii-Hindu hate mongering , how bad the Muslims are in this land etc in this FDI discussion.
Ravi co-opts jesus into Muslims while ridiculing Hindus co-iopting Budha , Nanak et al.
There was no Christianity when Jesus was alive. He did n0t commandeer the formation of a ‘religion”; the stuff he sermoned was about showing the other cheek if somebody beats you on your cheek. Prophet mohamed wanted to kill the ones who beat on your cheek. Prophet Mohamed started the Islamic movemeent; Jesus did not start the “Christianity” movement. It was started by his followers

My TamBrahm friend’s father worships all Gods, he has a picutre ogf Jesus Christ along with other Hindu gods pictures; he lights lamps in front of all including Jesus; he would have done this in front of a picture ogf the prophet also, if a picture was available. (the secular India forced his children to migrate to USA; all of them are contributing immensely to USA; with one owning/running a 2000 plus people software co.. I hope an economist/historian estimates the true cost of our non-income based reservations in this country/!)

I wonder if Ravi will say my friend’s father is co-oipting Jesus because of his extreme right Hindu mentality!

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I read this really nice piece by Swaminathan S Anklesaria Aiyar in the Sunday Times.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/opinion/columnists/swaminathan-s-a-aiyar/aam-bania-is-more-powerful-than-the-aam-aadmi/articleshow/10977614.cms

Mamata’s (and our ruling class’s) mindless opposition is shown up for what it is: a simple pandering to the organised votebank of baniyas.
Also read Swapan Dasgupta, on the same subject in the same paper, today.
Swapan needs to watch it; he has even dared take on Arun Jaitley on this issue.

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Can someone show me the source of one statistics that is being bandied about as gospel truth- the number of retailers in India.
Till some time, it was 30 Milion, 3 crores. Now it has become 4 crores- I heard Ravi Shankar Prasad (or was is Seshadri Chari??) who said this and added for good measure a multiplier of 5- meaning added their family members- totalling upto 20 crores who are involved in the retail trade.
Seeing that India’s population is 120 crores, even at 3 crores, it would mean a retail shop for every 40 Indians. Is this figure okay?

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Dr.Mishra, Pankaj ji, Balwinderji, Vijay Kumar, Mohan, Rajeev, Rajiv, Shoeb, Ishwar and Gopi,

the government, after all the false bravado, belligerance and over confidence, has accepted defeat on the FDI in retail.

1.It could have succeeded, even spectacularly, if it had taken the opposition into confidence and agreed on a time frame for its introduction. The fact is, it didn’t even consult the allies and kept its own sheep in total darkness.

2. If 26% was aimed at, the BJP and its parivar (NDA) could have been more easily brought on board, and allies could well have volunteered acceptance.

3. It should have proposed to introduce the reform in only major cities in the first three years.

In the event, the congress party failed miserably, spectacularly, even though the reform was to benefit the nation immensely in the coming years, without falling in the pitfalls other economies have.

Over confidence, incompetence and unaccommodativity killed a major initiative.

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Mahesh,
I missed your response and was only alerted by Ravi’s post asking you to “ignore the garlands of barbed wire”- so, I searched out your response from a day ago.
My barb about BJP and CPM agreeing on an economic policy – not for the first time, I may add (I still remember Jay Dubashi’s posts during Vajpayee’s reign- which could have even been penned by Karat or Yechuri, so protectionist in content they were)- riles, I agree. But, sadly, it is true.
And, when I ask you to define your stance in terms or A,B or C; you tell me it is actually D
My objection is on touting the FDI as engine of growth. .
Ahem, any other sectors which should be barred from receiving FDI? Say, car manufacturing? Or, glass manufacturing? Or, would you stop Amazon from coming in as well- let’s say they wanted to buy Flipkart, for instance… or set up their own delivery arm here; thereby killing the other online retailers.
I have not seen any wah wahs coming my way, by the way
As for the Kirana Wallas- and their political clout, read Swaminathan Aiyar in TOI today.
I am not so naive as to believe in a “pure” theory of evolution in occupational progression – but, since all theories are impure anyway, happy to live with it.
I am at a loss to understand the point that started with call centre jobs moving from US to India and then to Philipppines and ended with Ayn Rand.. never mind.
we could be walking in towards un-mitigated disaster. and the polity neither has any skill nor any will to understand the complexity of “free markets”. With FDI in retail – we may not exactly run into any large scale disaster, but then it would be purely flirting with randomness.
So, scare-mongering again? Embracing the free market is merely flirting with randomness, whatever that means? Or, as Seshadri Chari was telling us with a straight face, it has national security implications?

BTW, I seem to be missing your posts; so, do a favour and if you choose to respond, do so as a reply to this post so, I can catch it on Disqus.

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THE FACE OF ETERNAL YOUTH WILL NOT SMILE AT YOU FROM THE TV SCREEN ANYMORE.

THE EVERGREEN HERO IS NO MORE.

BUT HE WILL LIVE IN OUR HEARTS FOR EVER.

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Guys,

Watch Dirty Pictures. It is different from normal bollywood movies. Vidya Balan
has done an amazing job.

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Guys let pay our tribute the LEGEND that was Dev Anand. His affair with Suraiya which didn’t end up in both tying the knot due to ISLAM coming in the way, reminds ISLAM HASN’T CHANGED A BIT. However Suraiya will be remembered like heer or Laila for her undying love for Devanand.As a protest SHE NEVER MARRIED

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BJP gets a drubbing from Reddy brothers in Bellary

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Karnataka/BJP-gets-a-drubbing-from-Reddy-brothers-in-Bellary/Article1-777713.aspx

What was that again? Sleepwalking to victory!

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With passing away of Devanand, some small part of me has also passed away.

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Surprised, no body has reacted to Arnab Mitra’s post in HT blog so far. If it was music to his ears, I had some satisfaction as well. Why, because what India should have done ( and possibly can not do) has been done by this friendly ? fire.

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@ashish, just ask , this is in response to your query about he true number of retailers in india
India 8
USA 16

Poland 12
Brazil 15
China 7
Source: Presentation to FICCI by Alan
Rosling (Chairman, Jardine Matheson
Group): “International Experience on Ploicy issues
The above is SHARE OF EMPLOYMENT IN RETAIL IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES
A simple glance at the employment numbers is enough to paint a good
picture of the relative sizes of these two forms of trade in India – organised
trade employs roughly 5 lakh people (see Tables 8 & 9), whereas the
unorganized retail trade employs nearly 3.95 crores5! According to a GoI

study the number of workers in retail trade in 1998 was almost 175 lakhs.

THIS ONE FOR MAHESH
of Low Productivity in Unorganized Retail
1) Labor intensity: Counter-stores in India have a very low output to labor consumption ratio. Low
labor costs, failure to employ part-time labor and the absence of multitasking are the mainly
responsible for the unusually high consumption of labor. This has driven down the productivity in
the sector.
2) Inventory and Supply Chain Management: Unorganized retailers in India rarely track consumer
behavior and sales data to improve their inventory management practices. Even among the handful
of retailers that employ experience-based improvements in their business, their efforts are largely
met with no support from their suppliers. Counter stores and street vendors do not have the
infrastructure, exposure or credibility to form lasting relationships with suppliers. As a result
retailers usually use different suppliers every time they purchase inventory. This leaves them
largely incapable of strategically managing their business.
3) With 700 million agricultural labor18 looking to move into retail, low barriers to entry and the
absence of regulation in this sector have made it a largely over-supplied sector. The excess supply
of counter-stores and street vendors represents a tremendous decrease in the productivity of this
sector.
4) The absence of any real competition-almost all retailers find a way to make ends meet or change
their merchandise till they make ends meet-is also responsible for a form of status quo in the
sector where little to no improvements in efficiency, management and by extension productivity
are seen. In fact, this sector is so stagnant with respect to operational changes that no improvement
in productivity is expected in the near future.”

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~~YAHYA KHAN AND NAUTCH GIRLS~~still believe they won the 71 war !!! ~~
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In the memorable year of 1971, when the gr8 Indian army of all religions crushed the communal rapists fauj of Yahya Khan and liberated Bangladesh, the drunk Field Marshal Yahya Khan was being fed lies by mujra walis and nautch girls.

That the Pakistan army had captured Rashtrapati Bhavan !!

When Gen AAK Niazi was signing the document of abject surrender with gen JS Arora,, the drunk Yahya Khan’s nautch girl was telling him that India was being handed over.

When 93000 Pakistani armymen were taken POW, Yahya khan’s mujrawali was handing him a bottle of Hercules *** rum ans saying “sahab bahdur… Indian army is surrendering !! ”

HAHAHHHA HAHA

Similarly on this blog, India’s strong secular army of Balwinder, Shoeb, Shenoy have pulverised the jehadi general Engrich and exposed him as a mecrchant of hate. but Engrich’s nautch girl Ravi is telling him that their communal agenda has won… !!

HAHAHH HAHAH !!

And with Engrich exposed as Ram autar and Tajendra wanting to foment ISI funded hatred in India… his murjawali Ravi is cooing. “Darling Engrich… we have won… we have succeeding in dividing India….!! ”

HAHAH HAHHA

And as Engrich and Ravi settle down in the fantasy world of spreading hate and jehadi bile…

The whole world laughs and spits…

HAHAHAHHAHHHHHH HAAA OOOOOO ALLLAA LA LA !!!

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Corporate honchos call protests on FDI in retail false drama

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Corporate-honchos-call-protests-on-FDI-in-retail-false-drama/articleshow/10982879.cms

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the article by Saminathan Aiyyar that ashish refers to. Few observation.the use of the word BANIA , this is HINDU CASTE PREJUDICE naked and obscene I think small traders are from all caste and RELIGION as well.
Ashish also uses the word bania with the same prejudice as his fellow caste Aiyyar.
THE CASE FOR FDI IN RETAIL HAS IN MY BOOK LITTLE TO DO WITH KIRANAS.
It is entirely to do with QUANTUM leap in agricultural productivity , and also FOOD PRESERVATION through food processing thus stopping wastage.
Add to this THE ECONOMY OF SCALE which is GUARANTEED to bring down prices.
And lastly indian suppliers have the chance to supply WALMART to fill its GLOBAL INVENTORY.

BUT NOT BEFORE THEFT IN ELECTRICITY IS STOPPED
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आज मेरे साथ गुनगुनाओ

तू कहाँ
तू कहाँ ये बता
इस नशीली रात में
माने न मेरा दिल दीवाना
हाय रे माने न
मेरा दिल दीवाना

तू कहाँ ये बता
इस नशीली रात में
माने न मेरा दिल दीवाना

हाय रे हाय
माने न मेरा दिल दीवाना
हाय बड़ा नटखट है समां
बड़ा नटखट है समां
हर नज़ारा है जवान

छा गया चारों तरफ
मेरी आहों का धुंआ
दिल मेरा मेरी जान न जला
तू कहाँ
तू कहाँ ये बता

इस नशीली रात में
माने न मेरा दिल दीवाना
हाय रे माने न
मेरा दिल दीवाना

हो आई जब ठंडी हवा
आई जब ठंडी हवा
मैंने पुछा जो पता
वो भी कतरा के गयी
और बेचैन किया

प्यार से तू मुझे दे सदा
तू कहाँ
तू कहाँ ये बता

इस नशीली रात में
माने न मेरा दिल दीवाना
हाय रे माने न
मेरा दिल दीवाना

हाय..
चाँद तारों ने सुना
चाँद तारों ने सुना
इन बहारों ने सुना
दर्द का राग मेरा
रहगुज़ारों में सुना

तू भी सुन जाने मन
आ भी जा
तू कहाँ
तू कहाँ ये बता

इस नशीली रात में
माने न मेरा दिल दीवाना
हाय रे माने न
मेरा दिल दीवाना

हो ..
प्यार का देखो असर
प्यार का देखो असर
आये तुम थामे जिगर
मिल गयी आज मुझे
मेरी मनचाही डगर

क्यूँ छुपा
इक झलक फिर दिखा
तू कहाँ
तू कहाँ ये बता

इस नशीली रात में
माने न मेरा दिल दीवाना
हाय रे माने न
मेरा दिल दीवाना

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After retail, Mamata Banerjee eyes pension bill

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/After-retail-Mamata-Banerjee-eyes-pension-bill/Article1-777927.aspx

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She is also opposed to Land Acquisition Bill and God alone knows which other bills. Opposing for the sake of opposing.

With leaders like her, India does not need enemies, we are very capable of maintaining our status as a third-world country.

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BJP ally Sharad points to Bellary-like scam in MP

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Bhopal/BJP-ally-Sharad-points-to-Bellary-like-scam-in-MP/Article1-777902.aspx

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Is no part of the country free from scams and scandals?

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CORPORATE HONCHOS ARE AFRAID TO TALK IN FAVOUR OF FDI REFORMS
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CORPORATE HONCHOS GIVE HALF HEARTED SUPPORT TO FDI AFTER SHEKHAR GUPTA CRITICISES THEIR SILENCE
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http://www.indianexpress.com/news/national-interest-dirty-business/883471/0

Some excerpts:

The three top-most leaders of this arrangement, Sonia and Rahul Gandhi and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, have reduced their contact with India Inc as if by a conscious strategic design. Sonia and Rahul have not been seen at a corporate gathering: either an event of one of the chambers or the World Economic Forum for years. Even the prime minister’s contact with the most direct beneficiaries, and the most vocal supporters, of his reform has diminished to almost nothing. He no longer goes and speaks at the chambers.

The fact, therefore, is that corporate India, over the past two years, has felt left out, if not orphaned. This at a time when half the ministers are back to old “we are the mai-baap sarkar so we will decide” ways, the bureaucracy is more powerful and indecisive than ever, regulators are non-existent or weak if not compromised,

Sonia and the prime minister are cold-shouldering the chambers and Rahul is not seen addressing students at IITs, IIMs, even BPOs that generate so many jobs.

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Where is the land for opening hypermarts?
In Delhi, where I live, I don’t see barren land measuring a few sq km lying around which can be taken over and developed as a hypermart.
So, big hypermarts will possibly come up in Burari or Manesar or .. but, wait, those towns are out of bound.
Much ado about nothing.

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Veena Malik has ‘exposed’ for a video——-NEWS
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Veena Malik now sports an ‘ISI’ tattoo
People of India are on Veena lattoo

Veena Malik ab Pakistan ki Rakhi hai
Usne jo dikhaya hai woh show room thaa
basement ka Godown ab bhi baaki hai.

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Prahlad,

Anna has not left any room for ‘guess’.

His team campaigned against kaangress in Hissar, which was a parliamentary election, only to prove a point to that party.

I am sure (no guess work here) the Anna message has gone home.

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Shenoy

Is there any “larger” reading in the victory of SriRamulu? Looks like the Reddy thugs own that district.. Was momney distribted to the constituents?
2) why did BJP (and congress) discredit the Bangalore Corp vigilance engieer.. Seems there was crores of rupees of billing svcam in the corporation –

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Fantastic post by Vijay On The big comedy called Yahya Khan:

Vijay U have made me laugh and laugh on a Monday!

As a child of 12 I would listen to the All India Radio along with my dad in 1971. When the comic anc comicly named Yahya Khan capitualted we all jumped with joy.

At that point my father would also tune onto Radio Pakistan to hear their version of the war. This was diamatrically opposite. That they werre winning.

Is’nt there a message for all Pakistanis that today too as they launch terror worldwide, their jehadi leaders keep telling them lies?

Sadly on this blog, Engrich takes up various forms in oreder to insult India and Hindus.
And also cause divisions between Hindu- Muslims, Hindu-Sikhs and Hindus and Christians. He surely is brainwashed.

How come a more lierate person like Ravi has fallen victim to Engrich’s Kasab like brainwashing?

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Here in Dubai there were about 50-60 small vegetable and mutton vendors just
beside big retailer Carreour. Six months back they were forced to close their
shop as Carrefour wanted to expand.

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Arnab Mitra in his latest blog on Pakistan wrote-
” A respected colleague is aghast at my reaction. He accuses me of being intrinsically anti-Pakistani.” I’m not.

Friends are invited to guess who that respected colleague could be ?

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Yahya Khan Opens a Super Market

Under the new FDI(P) legislation Yahya Khan has opened a New Supermarket just the other side of the border. In tandem with the new liberalisation and increased trade between the two foes, new opportunities have opened up.

These opportunities have been manipulated by corrupt politicians from both sides. An example is that Indian Onions can be supplied to Yahya Khan only by those who migrated from Sialkot to Noida via Khanna.

Our own entrepreneur Vijay Kumar Khaplodia qualifies and has secured a deal with Yahya.

Yahya sends “made in Sialkot” TENNIS RAQUETS to Vijay. Vijay in turn uses them to lob Indian Onions across the border, one at a time.

In order to speed up the process, B V Shenoy has been roped in as a ball boy. Every day he wears the Vijay Kumar Khaplodia Ltd uniform, of Khaki Nikkar and Kali Topi and runs around feeding Vijay Indian Onions which he entusiatically lobs to his new friend and partner Yahya Khan.

I can see Vinoo’s smile slowly turning into a grin.

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@vinod sharma , PLEASE WRITE ON THIS SUBJECT WHICH DOES NOT CONCERN YOU AND ALL THE BLOGGERS.
It is about HEALTH CARE in India. My post follows a NDTV documentary about MATERNITY SERVICES IN DELHI.
It sticks two finger up the backside of MERA BHARAT MAHAN.
Though I have to concede GOVT HAS INTRODUCED SOME REVOLUTIONARY MEASURES AND LAWS.
Like forcing APOLLO INDRAPRASTHA AND FORTIS to accept BPL card hardholders.
BUT THAT IS ON PAPER, the documentary showed the poor are fobbed off at the enquiry desk. Also GOVT has made laws YOU DONT NEED TO PRODUCE BPL CARD, just sign a declaration , AGAIN mo fu er people in the reception treats these poor people as if a cow has entered the hospital meant from treating humans.
THIS IS WHERE THE CONCEPT OF OLIGOPOLY in Economics comes into play.
There are NAAM KE WASTE hospitals in delhi run by MCD , delhi govt , and thus the perennial fight between bjp and congress.
HEALTH AND EDUCATION SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THE HAND OF STATES AND MANAGED BY THE CENTRE. Just like CBSE is the benchmark now in school exams. there are hospitals run by railway and what not.
THE ENTIRE HEALTH DELIVERY SHOULD BE UNDER ONE UMBRELLA.
Again ECONOMY OF SCALE will push down prices of saline , drugs and everything.
Every district of India should have a MEDICAL COLLEGE where ONLY LOCAL boys and girls are allowed entree.
THIS WILL IN STROKE REMOVE THE CURSE OF DOCTOR ABSENTISM, FOR THE LOCAL BOYS WONT HAVE PROBLEM IN WORKING ANYWHERE IN THAT DISTRICT.

then far better option is, lets engage yourselves in pak bashing and silly tittle tattle , like BJ of yahya khan

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just read a report about one Mr Mali, a Maharashtra sub-insp of police , being arrested for corruption.
He apparenty has seven flats in Kalyan (five in the same building he lives), 75 acres of land in sholapur, 35 Kg of gold in his various lockers…

Just imagine.. if a sub inspector can make this much, what about others? 2G Spectrum etc may pale in comparison to the aggregate bribery of the bureaucracy!

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Gopi,

Did you see how quickly and surely the jihadi, fake Ravi jumps to Pakistan’s defence?

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There are no such organisations like Zia-ul-Haq’s jihadi terrorist squads. Don’t try to compare India and Pakistan in this respect.

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which is shared only by your fellow jihadi, RamAutar, one fake Sikh and the other fake Hindu-both hard boiled jihadi fundoos.

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Gopi,

start a thread and this fake sardar, asli jihadi will weave a yarn, which has the markings of green jihad

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Vinoo,

“I think Yahya khan is the big joker of history. We should make a comedy film on him. The comedy enacted by Engrich is similar….”

AND GIVE ONE YEAR’S FREE PASSES TO FAKE RAVI AND FAKE RAM AUTAR, so that they can embrace each other and laugh to their jiadi hears’ content.

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I can only guess his initials” VS?

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Gopi,

the Reddys have shown once again that they have a strangle hold on Bellary district. Times Of India had carried a report that voters got Rs/500/-each for their vote. Sree Ramulu has won the ST seat, with the blessings of the big brothers.

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Advani has always been what he now is but one is saddened to read about Vajpayeeji advising people to take out ten of the other side for each casualty.

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Sujata

I think you have a Pavlovian reaction to what COngress and BJP do. If you actually want to be a good columnist and not a Congress PRO, be dispassionate and not anti BJP.

Remember your love for the COngress made you look like a joker when it came to your giving a stamp of honesty to the supercorrupt and chor Chandrashekhar SIngh, the Congress president of Mumbai. Similarly your errors in this article are so gross and idiotic that you should revise it… or just proclaim that you are a handmaiden of Digvijay (digvinash) Singh.

The Assam problem was a problem of infiltration by Bangladeshi invited in by DK Baroah and later surreptitiously supported all along by the Congress. Of coruse you will find the BJP and Modi out there.

Very very funny!

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Sujata,

Even Digvijay Singh never said that Mr. Vajpayee is responsible for Assam issue. Could you possibly prove what you have written about him? If not, I’d take it as a comment made out of nowhere to justify your already arrived at conclusion i.e. BJP is to be blamed for Assam.

By the way, in which blog or statement did Mr. Advani say that it is a Hindu-Muslim issue? He has been or record saying that it is clearly an issue of illegal migrants from Bangladesh.

You have rightly stated – “Of course, there was always a serious issue of illegal immigration from Bangladesh and for this the Congress is to blame – they have been content to allow it to happen in the interest of their own vote bank”.

That’s it. Period.

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A completely useless and **** appraisal of the real problem, and, in the garb of article appeasing your paymasters Congress. When will you people realise that you have destroyed the basic foundation of honest journalism.

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People migrate to the USA from Southern america; to Italy, Spain, France & Germany from african countries; to Australia & New Zealand from far-eastern countries; to England from India, Pakistan & Bangladesh – ILLEGALLY. After some time they start their businesses, buy property and make that country their home in every sense of the word. There are protests against them by the hosts, violence too sometimes – but there is never any mass killings as we have seen in Assam in the 80s and now. Why is there such a big cultural difference between our Assamese and other host nations?

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Disabled persons in AK camp had come voluntarily and anyone will be angry hearing how he was cheated. It cannot be compared with Salman who had brought someone to save himself. It is Salman who should be ashamed and kudos to Arvind for giving platform to the plundered one. Today I read in Jagran that the person who had rescued Salman, was given machine 2 days before. It was told by his wife. Good job Jagran newspaper. I hope other news papers to follow suit by doing some in depth investigation rather than just commenting on AK.

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THIEVERY IN CONGRESS IS NOTHING NEW.DURING 1962 BOOKS OF RECIEPTS OF SUBSCRIPTION COLLECTED FROM PUBLIC WERE LOST.THIS WAS ADMITTED BY NEHRU.IN PARLIAMENT.AS PER NEHRU ,AFTER HEARING COMPLAINS OF CORRUPT PRACTICES BY OFFICERS AT BHAKRA DAM,HE TOLD CONTRACTORS “DESH KA PAISA DESH ME HI TO HAI.”
POOR CHAP DIDNOT REALIZE THAT HIS GRANDCHILDREN WILL IMPROVE UPON HIS STATEMENT AS PUBLICLY CLAIMED BY SRI RAM JETHMALAINI ABOUT SWISS BANK ACCOUNTS.
IT WAS HORRIBLY POOR SHOW BY A LAW MINISTER.THE ARROGANCE WAS UNLIMITED.

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don’t say anything to Kejriwal. He is the only man left in this country. don’t try to be intellectual here.

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High Command is busy counting the dirty money hands full and machines jammed !! With MMS gaurding the looters, who needs more enemies !!

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Well written. In the name of disability and the raw deal meted against them, racism is in full swing. India has a lot to learn from US and UK as to how to treat disabled people. In the context, I agree, one needs to provide proof. But there is a certain way to achieve that and its definitely not bringing them on stage and make a mockery out of the situation. What beats me is the Govt is mute as pointed out but whats even more scary and bothering me is, educated ppl who know whats going on and how the Govt is taking all of them for a ride, they’re not doing anything abt it. Its a sorry state of affairs really. When can we really have hundreds of thousands of Arvind Kejriwals on the streets to root out this filthy Govt and officials who’re nothing but misusing power to the utmost.

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Well written, my foot..you are SAAAAAAD..this whole issue is serious and not about sadness. Politicians who make money on behalf of disable people need to be shown that someday justice could be served on them. It’s actually sad to see that authors like you are always there to vent your emotions rather than doing something that can bring these sick scums to justice. You need to see a disabled as a person may be your sadness could go away instead of seeing him worthy of your pity.

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Sunita Aron: I totally disagree with you as far as taking note of disable people at press conference is concern they may be disable but certainly not dumb.

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Role of media is to make people aware about the facts and then leave it to their judgement.but here is a classic case where someone is trying to influence readers opinion by posing as an intelluctual saint.to all journalist,do not make follies like politicians-aam admit is much more intelligent then what u think.

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This Tamasha was enacted by all scoundrels for decades together. We must be grateful to Arvind Kejriwal ( & likes) who have made corruption a hot debate. If we just watch all this events, as a passerby , then we must be prepared for next 100 years for othe Kejriwal to emerge .

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Miss Sunita : You are a typical dumb head ( Like your boss Vinod Sharma) . The heading ,of piece of scrap (i refuge to accept it as column) , must have been : “Disdainful ! Cheating the Disability ”

Nation is talking / Discussing about the heinous act of looting the public money earmarked for differently able People

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We need people like Avind to expose corruption at every level. however, such people cannot be allowed to hold free-for-all Kangaroo court – when they have some charges to level against big politicians, they must first approach the Police, register a complaint, and then on the strength of legal back-up come before the people to say what they have to say. Levelng charges in order to garner publicity from a gleeful media before a gullible audience is cheap tactics for budding politicians indeed.

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Oh lord, these days that question makes me want to shoot myself. I do not know what is the grand finale of my career, but what I know is that I have to move on from where I am STUCK right now.

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Have been reading and enjoying your blog though! I sent my new blogposts to you but not sure of your id. So do read if you get time. As for your current post, I really am lost as to how and why I do what I do!

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Yeah! Anythin related to wedding is alwayz the best business ever as the price can be increased for the best collections and the demand wud nvr subside either…. True one!

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Kapil Sibbal has rightly said that media is corrupt too. It is because the political leaders are allowed to own the media. HT is a glaring example. Why is Kapil Sibal still contimuing in the Govt, didn’t he indicate that corruption by anybody is acceptable because the whole society is corrupt.

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I also don’t understnd why this gandhi family is always kept aside whenever some scams come up. How come they are responsible for everythng good that happens with congress or is done by it(nothing in past years) but they are supposed to be completely clean and unaware of so many discrepancies right up their sleeves…..why so..?
Why no body question them..?ok,if its Because they don’t allow so then also why our very much on the toe media never says anything about them having such secretive closely guarded public life….some one who’s entitled to use of air force planes and heavy security on the cost of tax payers money is obviously answerable to people..Why no one makes an issue out of it..?

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Manmohan Singh has joined your club.

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THE ITALIAN AT THE CENTER IS THE KING PIN OF ALL SCAMS. MMS IS JUST HER FLOOR MATT AND NOTHING ELSE….DOESN’T THE AUTHOR KNOW THIS? EVERYONE KNOWS THIS, DON’T SOUND SO DUMB.

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The whole episode is being cooked (of course with the help of media) that all the wrong is being done by PM and the family is trying to correct it. Please stop fooling public. We know who is directing all the drama and loot.

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By reading vir, who is without doubt a congress stooge, it appears that time has come to sacrifice the poor PM to save Gandhi’s. in the whole article he has not mentioned the name of Madam and the role she plays in taking every decision of this government. I don’t think even clerks listen to Manmohan. But well MMS, you might have learnt your lesson as you may spend rest of you life fighting court case. This party will use and throw you soo

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these gundas of congress and its paid media should never think that indians are idiots,further more we precisely know what is happening ,eversince the upa2 the italian maid kept the power to herself and installed this non-elected person manmohan singh as the prime minister and then controlled him by surrounding with all her own guys as spys, what ever good the p.m wanted to do ,this maid over rode that decision and used him to enhance her own image as the non involved person and to show people that what ever bad is being done is because of the inactivity or un involvment of the p.m and labelled him thru her paid media as the soft spoken gentle man of few words ,it was the simplicity of this p.m that he accepted this label and did not try to change his image as a decisive and tough p.m.
now that al the corruptions and scandals are being un -earthed and the country is pointing fingers at her and her family ,she has started to follow a different approach by slowly ordering the p.m to fire all those who were seen closer to him so that when the tainted and corrupt are elemininated it would be shown that these were the p.m men and that he protected them and she would project her son and her self and her family as a clean ,this is the brain child of corrupt .chodu-umbram/dogy sing/ manish tiwari /kapil sibbal / ahmed patel etc .now there are obviously two groups one closer to p.m and other closer to the italian maid ,
obviously as the time for the next election is coming nearer there would be more and more firing and blaming of persons closer to the p.m.the people closer to the p.m would be blamed /fired / and shown as corrupt so that the public take their anger against the p.m. and as the b.j.p put its pressure on the resignation of the p.m , which he ultimately give any in,

these two ministers ashwani kumar and the bansal were seen closer to the p.m ,first this italian maid compelled the p.m not to fire these two ministers and as the pressure increased and more and more indians and the opposition parties started blaming the p.m for protecting these two ,finally when the p.m was defamed enough all thru the parliament session and beyond ,these two were fired ,so who got the blame,the p.m.

another such person who was always in the news and was seen closer to the p.m. was mantek singh ahluwalia ,the planning commission chairman, why he is not seen is any ones guess.

the only brave thing the prime minister can do and should do is set up an on going enquiry about this most corrupt italian maid and her family ,all her scams be investigated by the c.b.i and the highest courts of the land

only this p.m can get india rid of this italian maid and her corrupt family or be prepared to live with all kind of un wanted labels.

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The sickness that prevailed in the air as I landed at IG airport in Delhi is perpetrated by Indian politicians and bureaucrats. The country is on a death spiral and no body can revive it. Its politicians and musclemen ate it up and belched the dirtiest air hovering over Delhi that even the Sun is pricklier with its rays piercing my face through the dust that hits like shrapnel. Every one is corrupt, except street dogs. Even unborn babies listen to the deeds of corruption their parents hatch every night to build bigger mansions and push the small man and woman in the nullah.

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One wonders why someone like Vir Sanghvi whose credibility went for a toss after the Nira Radia tapes were leaked continues to write columns. He should restrict himself to writing about rude food, something in which he seems to be good at and leave writing about politics to those who are not partisan.

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Upon reading the following posts, I feel sorry for you Mr Vir. I’d been one of your ardent followers and readers who always liked your non-partisan views but now I think that very unfortunately you have lost the credibility and the high ground of morality. I suggest you take a sabbatical from political writing because your personal interests seem to override your moral interests to write in favour of truth. Pls dont cheat yourself.

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Vir Sanghvi praising Congress, BJP followers comments are virulent, he writes an article in which he criticizes the Prime Minister agreeing with most of the persons who are anti-Congress, still he is criticized. Which kind of article now Vir Singhvi should pen to make these guys happy.

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It is not the victory of congress in Karnataka, in toto, but it was due to one individual, who nurtured the baby initially and killed the same for some selfish motives. As seen in the past, congress rule in the state will have negative effect definitely at the center, resulting BJP capturing power.

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MMS fall from grace? Did this guy ever have grace?

What about Sonia’s fall from grace? Where is her morality when Robert Vadra’s loot is unearthed or National herald loot by her is unveiled?

She is the epitome of corruption in India.

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AND YOU FALL FROM NAALI KE KEADE TO MAIN HOLE KE KEADE. RADIA FAME WALE HO NA AAP

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Analysed situation convincingly tht Cong tho strong in States, weak at Centre, but 2 give clean chit 2 MMS ‘of integrity n propriety” may nt b so, if so, he ought 2 hv left on his own, nw may still hv 2 go n also b d fall guy, after all ppl will say he is nt bigger than d party, (we r nt talking of being bigger than the country), just d party

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We don’t have problems with you for your prejudice against BJP, Hindus and Bharath identity, understandably. But your new avatar of “protecting Sonia at all cost by exposing Manmohan Singh” has no takers.

You made a clever by half attempt to re-enter politics but people are getting smarter now a days

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OUR KEJRIWAL WILL REPLY TO YOU IN PARLIAMENT ON 2014

WE ARE WAITING FOR THOSE DAYS MR MANMOHAN AND CONG _ CORP MAFIA

AAP IS ONLY SOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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So, Mr VS, you have been asked to clear the deck for Rahul F(ake) Gandhi by starting to blame MMS? MMS is a coward and spineless and you too have proved the same. My respect for you is now a history after Radia scandal. You should write blogs on food and movies. Stop trying to fake unbiased opinions, when you know you are still not absolved. You are guilty by association.

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Dear Sir,
Its not correctto say Mr.Manmohan Singh has been the in the total control of things, brought dis repute the Govt/party and now Mrs.Sonia Gandhi has stepped in as “savior” to party and Govt. Mr.Manmohan Singh has defended several scam tainted ministers of congress and allies, subjected to severe criticism and loss of personal credibility but chose to keep silence. Too much has been said into his defence of Mr.Bansal and Mr.Ashwini Kumar for the reasons they hail from Punjab. Mr.Ashwini Kumar’s meddling with Coalgate investigation is in fact to save the congress party head only, not the PM. The Minister of State in PM’s office , as well key bureaucrats in PMO were the “hand picks ” of Mrs.Sonia , hence the PM hardly enjoyed complete authority over things.Time has come for Mr.Manmohan Singh to act on his own and assert his power and take action against all those misused their office.
N.Ramamurthy,
Chennai.

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mr sanghvi.. are you trying to make us believe that everything that happens in congress in controlled by just manmohan singh.. are you trying to absolve SG of her responsibility.. SORRY MR SANGHVI.. you are giving us the half truth and this is where you have compromised.. have some spine..

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BJP lost it in Karnataka. Congress had to be just present there to win it. If you look at any stats it will tell you nothing worked for Congress, and it had won the same percentage of votes it won while in opposition in its previous term. This dynastic rule will go down in India’s long history as one of the darkest period of Indian history despite independence thanks to the machinations of the first family and the sycophancy of its members each vying to please a madam while selling out the country to the same mob from whom it struggled to win independence. Every day a new scam comes to light (at least coming to light due to its citizen’s vigilance and despite the best efforts of those conniving to hide it) and each scam betters its predecessor in scale and scope. What a performance… while the mango public suffers in desperation..

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It may be recalled that since 1947, India had 13 PMs,5(five only) out of which TheNDA-II regime hasbeen branded led a “Congress govts.”,7(seven) were non-congress PMs and Dr. MM Singh is the PM of a Congress-led coalition-UPA Govt.!Only the “SIX” PMs could succcesfully completed the full 5-year term of office! BJP led Govt. could lastfor 13 days only in 1996!However, BJPled NDA -I govt. lasted for 13 months only during 1998-1999! And NDA-II for 51 months during 1991-2004!The last regime has been criticised as a “Saga of Sins,Scams and Shame”!yetBJPhassucceeded by Goebbellianpropaganda against UPA!It has reliedheavilyon aproacive CAG’s reorts!Theapex court hasrecently devlaredthatCAG Reportis NOT thelast word! So BJP’saccusations arefictionbased andnot valid!

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Correction:The first line should be read as:It may be recalled that since 1947, india had13 PMs, outof which5 (five only)were led by Congress and 7(seven) wereon-congress PMs!And Dr. MM Singh is the PM of a Coongress-led coalition Coalition- UPA Govt.! Errr is regretted.-

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Dynasty loyalists are now saying what people have been saying all along, MMS is a weak indecisive and incompetent man who has destroyed India. But by doing this belatedly Sonia cannot wash her hands off from the responsibility of landing us in this sad state.

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“I don’t want to pre-judge Pawan Bansal’s guilt while the investigation is on.” – really!? We thought you were the most eligible person to judge people on integrity and honesty- Vir!!

“The Manmohan Singh government is now so deeply involved in scams and
cover-ups that it has lost the ability to tell wrong from right. The
prime minister has lost his moral compass as he has struggled to stay
afloat.” … look who’s talking! If Mr Sanghvi can make disparaging remarks about Mr Singh and his government, the situation with the latter should be really, really bad!

Like they did to BJP in Karnataka, there is hope that people might throw out the corrupt at the central government. Mr Sanghvi will of course, live on!

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It is well known that Prime Minister is not in the driver’s seat and he only has to assume responsibility when things go wrong but there are others in the Congress Party who run the show but not answerable to anyone.

We had the case earlier when CBI had raided the offices of Stalin, the younger son of Karunanidhi immediately after DMK withdrew support to the UPA government. Prime Minister and Home Minister both confirmed in public that such a raid took place without their knowledge. CBI Director however confirmed that he had the authorisation. His statement was never questioned because the CBI had the authourisation to go ahead but PM and HM were not in the loop.

There are other people in the Ministry with the backing of the Congress President who pull the strings and many times the PM is totally unaware of what has happened and he may get to know through Media reports only.

A sorry state of affairs. That is why Manmohan Singh is a weak Prime Minister and he was rightly chosen to head the government so that the Party bosses han have a free access in manupulating the Government Machinery towards their own agenda and he will be a silent spectator.

He has accepted this working arrangement from Day one and he cannot blame anybody else for this.

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MODI FICTION : Video Conference & Feku Modi

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Brothers and Sisters and Mothers. You must have seen top management
of different companies travel a lot to meet people across the world.
Even our political leaders do so often. In the process they waste so
much of public money and time. I do not understand why they have to
travel to China, Japan,Italy,UK or USA to meet people. I was very
disheartened by the attitude of our political leaders.

I kept on thinking. I was not sure how to bring about a change in
people’s mindset. One day I was talking to Amit Shah at 1am over the
phone. I had not seen Amit for a long time. These courts had kept him
away from me. I had this very strong urge to see him.I felt very sorry
not able to see him face to face. His voice was not enough for me. Amit
had made so much sacrifice for me. I really felt like seeing him. Next
day, I asked my officials to do something. I gave them a NEW VISION. I
said ” think of something so that I can see people at the other end
while I am talking over the telephone”.

My Brothers and Sisters and Mothers. ! My official are so efficient
!! Exactly in 56.31 hours they developed a system through which I could
see people at the other end of the telephone. Even they could see me ! I
was excited about this new system. I inaugurated this system next day.
First I talked to Amit Shah in the jail through this system. Amit was
very happy. I asked him to name the system. You know how intelligent
Amit is. He has a very sharp brain. He said “Modi Bhai ! Let’s call this
“Video Conference”, insread of telephonic conversation. My Brothers and
Sisters and Mothers !! Since then I am using this new video
conferencing system. We have licensed this to Sony, AT&T and Gujrat
is earning billions of dollars in royalty.

Recently, I decided I would not travel to other countries like these
ordinary politicians from UPA. These politicians waste so much money !!!
I now use my Video conferencing system to talk to NRI’s all over the
World, particularly in USA. What does USA think of itself ? Only USA has
the technology ? I will show USA its place. I will refuse USA video
conferencing technology when I become the PM. They have to kneel before
me for this Video Conferencing Technology. I will tell them ” you give
me the latest nuclear and space technology, I will give you the Video
conferencing technology”. My Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! This
I,Me,MYSELF Modi has deemag na !

This is not MODI FICTION at all. This is only MODIfication. : Feku Modi

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Manmohan Singh’s fall from grace
—- so UPA, congress, sonia & rahul, are not be blamed, and do these have any grace. singh has become scrapgoat….& paid media will justify it

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The real caption should be “Nehru-Gandhis fall from grace”.

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I dont know what scares you from saying the blatant truth. That we no longer believe in the mythological genetic superiority of the Nehru Gandy DNA — a lie propogated by the Paid media which got doles and deals and seats.

Manmohan is simply the fall guy.

However with 200 crores being doled by the COngress in it scampaign officially and maybe twice the amount unofficially all the newsmen and news babes would go back to the Congress bandowagon like donkeys. Soon all positive BJP news would be blacked out. Vadra would be shown to be a Warren Buffet like genius, Rahul as Churchill and Sonia as Indira.

Paisa ke liye news men and women sab kuch karega… including cabaret.

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Will an Indian without a degree be fawned upon by the Italian press and made PM in case she doles out deals, favours, posts to news media in Italy?

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