Memogate meant to show Zardari the door?

Their Interior Minister Rahman Malik is holding an international warrant for Pervez M in the Benazir murder case. These turn of events would likely see the same rendered irrelevent. These developments would lead to switching of parties by the elected MNAs; Imran Khan who is emerging as a force to reckon with, and Pervez M would join hands, with the blessings of the Army, to topple the PPP govt. Democracy would flourish under the umbrella of the Military, with the USA smiling from the sidelines. Pervez M and Imran would be able to clinch a deal with the Pakistani Taliban, that would ease out scenario enough for the US forces to depart from Afghanistan. In the whole scenario, the MFN status accorded to India by Pakistan would come good during the future political-military regime in Pakistan.

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Zardari may be corrupt and not liked by majorities of fanatic pakistanis but if you see him from Indian point of view, he is the least anti-India politician in pakistan.

India should try to help him out indirectly in whatever way possible. He is definitely much better than English speaking Jamat-e-Islami Imran Khan.

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Change in Pakistan?

There is hardly any body in the world who does not wish to see – the rogue state – Pakistan change its ways.

The difference lies in the medicine each of us believe will do the job.

There are quite a few in India, and dare I say some also in the US who would say lets Nuke them.

Our own children’s correspondent from Khapistan believes that we should walk in and steal their Nukes. He has even volunteered to hold the Waga gates open until our brave soldiers return, with the booty contained in a paper bag made from a recycled old edition of Samna.

The same correspondent and his empty headed konkoni assistant, would like India to further divide Pakistan, in this yet unproven and illogical hope, that such division will render Pakistan into a weak irrelevancy. Repercussions on India of such an act are often ignored.

Some also hope that US will one day ignore geopolitics, realise the duplicity of the PAK Army and stop propping it up with unnecessary aid.

All of the above are either impractical or unlikely to deliver the prize India wants.

Yet I am of the opinion that the present status quo cannot last and sooner or later will change.

My view is that the only durable change will come when the Pakistan Public decides that enough is enough and revolt against the military regime.

India and the US have to bite their lip and wait until such an uprising takes place and then help the revolutionaries achieve their objective.

I hear khappi asking why this has more chances of happening and succeeding than any of the other propositions do.

Since the WWII no country has been Nuked and is unlikely to.

Countries that have been divided since then have been loose federations or idelogically divided countries, such as Korea, Yogoslavia, etc.

However, people power has changed, Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, etc.

The memo can also be viewed in this context. Perhaps the Civil Government is trying to measure the magnitude of support it is likely to get from the US, if it decided to encourage the public to take to the streets.

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The army/ISI has demanded Haqanni’s resignation and trial for sedition on charges of complicity in drafting the memo that was delivered to Mr Mullen, requesting an ‘American fist’ on the general’s table. It would not surprise me if he is tried and set to prison sentence. The media and public, instead of questioning the thug criminal Pak army/ISI ’s actions of making such demands on the democratically elected civilian government has trained its fire on the civilian administration.
That kind of thinking only reflects the criminal Pak pro-army/isi/jihadi propoganda that you see shameless thugs from Ravi to Engrich make to defile these blogs.

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~~~ BREAKING NEWS ~~~ FOUR SIDED HIJRA DISCOVERED !!!!! ~~~~~
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HT News: Tue-22-11

At all blog mates. A huge mystery of the Cosmos has been unravelled!! A four sided Hijra was discovered. The origins of the Hijra can be traced to the training camps of Al Zawhari and Osama. And the college degree IT has is from WCJ — Wahabbi College of Jehad.

The four sided Hijra looks different from various sides.
Side A– Tajendra,
Side B– Engrich
Side C– Ram Autar
Side D– Ravi

Proof of them being the same and one Hijra can be found in the last blog where Ravi accidently lets the mask slip and calls Engirch as Ram Autar !!

Proof of them being one and the same thing can be found in matching thought processes ! ! !

Proof of them being all mutants but one can be found in their intentions of hurting India and injuring Hindus !!!!

Proof of them being all same can be found in their mutual cooing and love sounds… !!!!!

Detective Vijay Kumar is willing to bet the last fake counterfiet dollar and rupee printed in the ISI press in Muridke manned by Ravi that

All four are without Ling..
they are all. one and the same thing..

HAHAHHAHHHAA !! HA HAHA !! HA HAHAH !!!HAAAAHHAHHAAAA

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“Advantages’ of Appointing Dr.Fahmida Mirza (Speaker National Assembly) as President of Pakistan.”

With the scenario of treason charges and bad performance of Mr. Zadora as the president of Pakistan and deteriorating economic condition of the state as well as total collapse of all institutions and departments of the Government due to corruption and mismanagement and as the personality of President itself has become a liability for the state and also for his party due to his previous record, there is need to replace him with a personality who can repair the damage caused by Mr. Zardari to the state and nation.
If we see around there is one personality of Dr. Fahmida Mirza, who was elected as the first female Speaker of the National Assembly of Pakistan on March 19, 2008 and is also the first female parliamentary speaker in the Muslim world, could be appointed as a replacement for Zardari as President of Pakistan, even at present she acts as President of Pakistan in the absence of President.
There will be following advantages for her appointment as president of Pakistan.
1) She has already experience of working as acting president of Pakistan, and also has great experience of Parliament as member of national assembly about three times.
2) She has a strong background in politics and belongs from a political family of very dedicated and famous politicians.
3) She is highly educated and well experienced, and is able to survive the post of Speaker national assembly even in the event of serious tussle between her husband and her political party.
4) Being a woman she will give a good and moderate image of Pakistan to world as compared to bad image created by Mr.Zardari.
5) She is highly respected by all the political parties in the national assembly.
6) Her appointment as President will be highly beneficial for Pakistan and for People of Province of Sindh and PPP, as Mr. Zardari have given a very bad image to Pakistan and for People of Province of Sindh and PPP and have become a black scar for them.
7) Fortunately her husband Mr. Zulfiqar Mirza have become a very strong figure in national and provincial politics due to his sacrifice in preventing and countering target killing in Karachi, in comparison to deceptive and wicked politics and policies of Mr. Zardari. More over personality of Dr.Fahmida is more graceful and sober even than Benazir Bhutto.
9) Her appointment as president can neutralized aggressive designs of other nations against Pakistan and internally can stabilized the state and institutions due to political unrest and distress in the different sections of society, and can prevent the total destruction of national political Party(PPP).
Written by: M.AKRAM

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Salient features of the UPA’s war against terror
G K Pillai former Union Home Secretary ( all through under UPA) has come on record that Ishrat Jahan was a terrorist. That the LET website had shown her as a martyr, which they later removed. That the IB had given inputs to the Govt of Gujarat that she was a terrorist.
That in the Sohrabuddin case the Union Home Ministry had first filed an Affidavit that he was Terrorist. They subsequently withdrew it and filed a fresh affidavit that they had no information that he was Terrorist. We ask was any action taken against the officials who processed and filed the first Affidavit? Presuming that the second Affidavit was correct.

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Dear Manohar,

I must appreciate your sentiments that yield a sensible mind who can wisely foresee serious repercussions that could follow. This would add nothing more then disappointment and unstable geo-political situation between the relationships of two subcontinental siblings. I for one would rather like to take a course where we should wait, watch and then proceed. The reason for that is the unstable state of Pakistan who is confronting both home grown as well as foreign aided militancy in its regions. Much of the influx has to come from its western side. So first it has to restore long oriented peace, law and order situation inside, functioning of institutions inside then enter into a phase of promises, diplomatic and economic channels with its neighbours (especially India).

“My view is that if it helps them more, perhaps they will realize the value of friendship and living peacefully with the neighbours.”

Sir, in return to your above quote I would like to say that ordinary Pakistani citizens like me would not like to turn down any handshake of peace and friendship offered from India and in return would always value it. But then again the interpretation can vary when it reaches in the hands of higher powers who dictate foreign policy and national security issues. I would restrict myself beyond that as I don’t represent that class.

Thank you for your optimistic approach, would look forward for your remarks.

Usman
Pakistan

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The whole world knows Paksiatn duplicity, its breeding of worldwide jehadism, its repeated torpedoing of India’s peace initiatives etc. Wiorld also knows how india, with all its problems, has growhn into an important player through democracy, while pakustan is in abyss through corrupt military.

We should not spebnd a single minute on them until they have a military or civilian govt who can make decisions and abide by them.

Denuking of course is the ideal solution so tat we can forget about the trecherous place once and for all; however US would have done it if it was easy.

They have assisted Iran and orth Korea; they will give “dirty” bombs to JeT etc in their blind hatred of India.
It is a “fu..d up” country top to bottom — a Pakistani participant in a US meeting I recently attended told me 1) the news about India growth is a Western propaganda 2) Why would India let me travel out 3) it must be tough to live under the draconian Hindu rule of India.. The brainwash is complete; it will take decades to undo.

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” India should try to help him out indirectly in whatever way possible. He is definitely much better than English speaking Jamat-e-Islami Imran Khan ”

Rajeev,

What actions of Imran (in the context of India) make you believe Zardari is a better option. Please elaborate.

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sorry this is against bstrd who has written this.in last blog he insulted my prophet.i will fk his mthr if i find.
he does this usually.
regarding pakistan,pakistan is not a soveriegn country.this is controlled by americans.their president has to do what they want.
so why unnessarily blame.
in india rss is their local agent they helping cia to unfold their plan.

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sorry this is against bstrd who has written this.in last blog he insulted my prophet.i will fk his mthr if i find.
he does this usually.
regarding pakistan,pakistan is not a soveriegn country.this is controlled by americans.their president has to do what they want.
so why unnessarily blame.
in india rss is their local agent they helping cia to unfold their plan.

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Usman bhai welcome. Since everyone agrees that Pakistan is one of most dangerous country in world, it is natural to TRY and divide it, whole world will then breathe easy. This is not personal against you, if more like you, Fasi Zaka, Ansar Burneys etc were around_ then there wud be no problem.
India has chance, small chance to breakaway Balochstan, and shud capitalise on it. Even if we do not bresk it away, we can at least make Pakistani jehadis and ISI think twice in future. SO PLEASE USMAN, DONT TAKE IT PERSONAL, everyone wants it , US, europe, india, israel

sorry yr question as to why Zardari is better than Imran is childish, Zardari has NEVER been aggressive towards india. SIMPLE. Imran has. Looking forward to yr response

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Vijay Kumar, Vinoo, Mohan, Sanjay,

When the **** uses capitals in bold and says HINDOO FUNDOO, he is fake Ravi. When the **** uses brahmnst, zionst, jewsh and thows in deliberate spelling mistakes, he is RamAutar/Tajender/engrich/vermin/**** etc..

All are jihadi terrorists spewing anti-India, anti-Hindu garbage. Most reprehensible being 5000 dalit rapes every day in India by upper caste Hindus.

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mantaq muslim countries are providing employment to 2 crores hindus.

as per international pakistanis are more happier than indian.

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India should make pakistan weak internally by strengthening Balochis and Sindhis and at the same time bring Afghanistan in Indian orbit..then we will have pakistani punjabis isolated who will be regularly blown up by miffed Balochis, Sindhis and Pathans.

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Many TV journalists defended Rahul’s remark calling it metaphor or slip of tongue. Today Rahul Gandhi defended his remark saying that whenever he speaks to a beggar in Delhi, they tell him they are from UP. Now here are some question-
1. Rahul enjoys Z plus security so their is no chance of his interacting with beggars of delhi unless it is election time.
2. I guess during Bihar election, rahul gandhi claimed that most of the beggars in delhi came from Bihar.
3. Rahul made beggar statement in relation of UP people going to Maharashtra. Now he has added Delhi to the list. His grandfather who hailed from Allahabad went to Delhi. Does that mean he too was beggar.

Rahul is proving to be a total ******. This guy keeps making this type of statements and poor Congressmen have no choice but to defend him.

I have full sympathies for Congressmen doing the dirty job.

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Here is something for the RSS/BJP trolls to chew about.

This is what the print edition of The Economic Times dated 22-11-2011 said.

History Lessons

Though the grand finale of the BJP’s state-wide twin yatras in UP didn’t exactly end on a high last week, party leader Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi chose the occasion to treat the audience to his special perspective on history and politics. Launching an attack on the ‘family-rule culture of the Congress’ and those who help sustain ‘the dynasty’, Naqvi ‘reminded’ the audience how the Gandhi family and its supporters “sabotaged the emergence of Sardar Patel as the natural Prime Minister after the death of Nehru only to help Indira Gandhi become the Prime Minister”.

His bold show of warping history and an even bolder attempt to kill Nehru off before Patel died, one presumes, must have earned Naqvi an A+ from tutors(*) of wild imaginings.

* The RSS who else.
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One knows the RSS has been attempting to rewrite the history of the world to suit its agenda, but this is ………..

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Here is something for Congressi trolls to chew about-
1. Patel was selected as PM choice by 13 Pradesh Congress committees.
2. For Acharya Kriplani, 2 Pradesh comm. forwarded support.
3. Only one Pradesh Comm. supported Nehru.
4. Under pressure from Mahatma Gandhi, Patel gave his support to Nehru so that he can become PM.

This is all part of history.

Naqvi may have weaved some nonsense around the facts but basic facts don’t change.

Now Congressi trolls…your turn.

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Why is it Congressi trolls are natural allies of Jehadi elements? What joins them? Corruption, Anti-Indianism, Anti-hinduism…

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balwinder jee try to understand,

international terrorism is a fantasy that has been exaggerated and distorted by politicians. It is a dark illusion that has spread unquestioned through governments around the world, the security services and the international media.”

“It is the policy of the United States government to provoke violent extremist groups into action. Once they are in play, their responses can then be used in whatever way the government that provoked them sees fit. And we also know that these provocations are being used, as a matter of deliberate policy, to rouse violent groups on the to launch terrorist attacks.

one american senator has written,

We have little concern about our violations of human rights in Guantanamo. ….the real horrors – of this war come with the primitive killer mentality developed in our youth. I’ve now seen a half dozen documentary films and read eyewitness accounts that reveal troops or pilots gloating over the massacres of civilians who just happened to be available targets

i dont know whether it is war on terror or a global crusade on islam.

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I am reading excellent book In spite of the Gods by Ed Luce, he reminds me of Gopi Thomas and Mishraji, very gud understanding of hindu and Indian civilisation at its place in world today. He said, RISE OF INDIA IS GOING TO LEAD TO MORE STABLE WORLD ORDER.

Wah, khush keeta, bhaut changee gal keeti. Everyone go out and buy this book, he is Oxford grad who was Financial Times India chief. USMAN, I WAIT YR REPLY, pl u go out and read this book, understand why Indis will become respected power, not ugly superpower.
…..Ravi, when Pakistan is divided u hv to be prepared for blowback. But dividend is long term , for thousand years. And our involvement will be sureptitous, our turn to bleed them by 100,000,000 cuts.
When bangalidesh was created, we reduced jehadi pool by 100 million. Ravi keeps talking of rogue Pak govt, implying ISI , omits to mention Islamist talebani fundoo jehad loving mindset of ?20 percent of ppl. That pool has to be kept limited.
MISHRAJI, pl come blog burns now, I will email him. Does anyone hv Gopi email, or Rizwan

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Some people here are advocating vivisection of Pakistan. How it is to be done – there is thundering silence from these advocates as to how this can be achieved.

Here are some suggestions.

1) Take a large map of Pakistan and a pair of scissors, ….

2) Take a large map of Pakistan and a marker pen, ….

3) Resurrect Sir Cyril Radcliffe and entrust the job to him.

4) Go to Wagah Border with a megaphone and tell them loud and clear – enough is enough, now divide your country into smaller parts.

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Mr Vinod Sharma writes
“Pakistan is a land of conspiracies— imaginary and real. Much of what’s retailed by word of mouth or friendly media persons shows civilian rulers in poor light. The underlying message in the so-called “memogate” is that the men in Khaki could do no wrong, that they are the best defenders of Pakistan’s national interest.”
If that is the prevailing situation in Pakistan , does he not realize the futility of his prescription “Trust and Verify”.
There is only one prescription for India. Keep building your military might and the required part of our Economic growth has to be set aside for it.. If there is hostile action by any of our neigbours , and that threat does looms large over the country , the country shall have to look towards General V K Singh and not Montek Singh Ahluwalia. The most important determining factor for our foreign policy shall be India’s military might .

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@praveen JI, Recently back from India .more on that later.The people of India beleive THEY ARE WITHOUT A PM FOR LAST THREE YEARS.
Indian Army is a white elephant , NEVER FOUGHT ANY WAR IN LAST 40YRS KILLED MORE INDIANS THAN WHAT THE PAK AND CHINKYS EVER MANAGED TO DO.
This Army sucks so much of money , yet nothing to show COMPARE WITH SRILANKAN ARMY.
Also this Memogate shows PAK ARMY has a vice like grip on Pakistan;s foreign policy SO NOT A GREAT DEAL WILL HAPPEN.
Also the differenece between Pakistan and India in social structure , economics,science IS SO WIDE it will breed jealousy .
So INDIA NEEDS TO SPEAK BLUNT. Hand over all terrorist , sign a FRIENDSHIP TREATY , REDUCE PAK ARMY,S SIZE BY HALF FOR PAKISTAN’S BENEFIT,INDIA MOVE MOST OF ITS ARMY TO BORDER WITH CHINA

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shan do you agree that,

The new model of Project Brahmanism is to fight against corruption and population growth not against casteism, fascism, communalism, gender inequity, capitalism or anything else.Well corruption had been always a yardstick to freeze the core issues of any region. The issues I have mentioned above that I have mentioned about. The word corruption is a misnomer, for it implies that there is something called honest… capitalism. Corruption is worked into the fabric of capitalism. Sir Francis Drake made a fortune as a “privateer,” the polite word for pirate. In addition to indulging in the very lucrative slave trade, he routinely captured and ripped off French ships. One nation’s piracy was another nation’s foreign policy.

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The islamist party consolidation in egypt, renewed uprising/killings in Tahrir Square, Islamist radicals’ rise in Tunisia etc do not provide much hope for a Jefforsinian democracy in the Arab world. For all you know, Saudi Arabia may be funding all these Islamists.

Something can be done with Pakistan minus nukes. It seems even US is at wits end with them because they have nukes. A joint India-US-Israel-other countries effort to forcefully remove the nukes should eb undertaken. But it is going to be tough.

Pakistan state (whatever the “state” is), pakistan terrorists, and even some Pak politicians will use the uke against India. They openly talk about it – their political leaders (not the ones in power now), their opinion makers – I have yet to see an Indian political leader (of any party) openly advicating nuking Pak.

They openly talk about “water must flow, or blood will” regarding Bahlihar and other dams. Nawai-Waqt, a widely read paper there wanted pakistan to use uclear bombs to stop the dam projects. Abdur rehman Makki, the extremist leader, told a rally “we will let loose a river of blood if these dams block their water”..
For Pakistan, it is always bllood. Come to think of it blood, cockroach, etc is in the daily vocabulary of Pakistanis and other Muslim countries. Sadam Hussain always used to talk about killing cockroaches (enemies). Ahmanejad always uses the imagery of cockroaches, worms; Al queda and extremist leaders always talk in terms of cutting the head of the pig– obviously for a large section these imageries must be quite appealing.,

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Can Pakistan be trusted?
The question presupposes a homogeneity that is absent even in less fractured polity- with Pakistan, the assumption is not valid.
There are power groups like Army, ISI, political parties – who sometimes form a government with varying degrees of legitimacy. Are they singly or jointly, Pakistan?
What of the non-state actors? What of those who thought the killer of Salman Taseer was a national hero? What about those who did not dare attend his funeral, far less condemn the killing? Are they Pakistan?
What about those in the Pakistani media- who, at great risk to life, hold a mirror up to the horror that is Pakistan? Are they Pakistan?
Which one of the above “Pakistan”s is winning?

Next question, what can you do about it; assuming you are an Indian?
Build our own country and hope to put such a distance between us and them- in all socio-economic, miltitary and cultural areas- so that the world finds it much more in its self-interest to deal with us in preference to Pakistan.

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Pakistan has many faces, some dominant one and some marginal.
1. Army – Is the supreme decision taking body.
2. ISI – Dirty work department of pakistan.
3. ISI with embedded Armymen – These are involved in training and logistical support for foot soldiers.
4. Foot soldiers – These can be Armymen in disguise or Civilian Jehadis.
5. Army-ISI-Terror Groups nexus – LeT is best example of this co-operation.
6. Religious parties – These parties keep the hate pot boiling calling for killing of Hinood-Yahood-Amrikan..Engrich is product of this hate.
7. Political leadership – This is the least important face of pakistan. It tows the line of first 6 based on circumstances and is disposed off by Army-ISI at will.

India can never achieve any peace deal with Pakistan because there is no central authority with which it can negotiate any deal. None of the institutions in pakistan can be trusted with honoring any deal (Shimla agreement is best example).

So India should start thinking pragmatically about Pakistan PROBLEM and stop deluding itself about everlasting peace with this neighbor. Pakistan has been successful in creating an internal pakistan within India that is causing India to weaken within. The elements like Engrich and Ravi are product of such initiative from Pakistan.

1. Cutting off Financial funding
India should work on cutting off funding system for Pakistan. It’s a huge task but India can work on it using its growing economic clout. The US govt. is unwilling to fund Pakistan and Chinese for all that tall talks have never helped pakistan in any big way financially. India needs to work on China front so that it can move away from Pakistan. Then the third actor Saudi needs to be managed and I am sure using Pakistan-Iran nuclear co-operation facts-propaganda, Saudi can be moved away from Pakistan with the help of US.

2. Helping Separatists
India should start helping Balochistan indirectly thru Nortern alliance in Afghanistan. The Mohajirs are most suppressed people who have been denied their share. We can use their anger in our favor and keep Karachi unstable (financial capital). If we develop good relations with Afghanistan (Pashtuns), it can help us with indirect influence in NWFP. These pathans can be used tactically in various parts of Pakistan.

3. Develop pro-India political/Intelligence assets in Pakistan
Paksitanis just like Indians are corrupt people. India should buy politicians and intelligence officers who are willing to sell their services. RAW should be reactivated and for next 5 years we should develop internal India within pakistan.

4. Pro-India propaganda
In the border areas, India should air anti-pak propganda and bombard pakistani airwaves with Indian programs and propaganda. We should use Bollywood with precision to propogate our points across the border.

5. Keep Pakistan dry and flooded when desired

6. Start hunting down pakistani assests in India and start liquidating them circumventing the law. These people should be treated as faceless terrorists. The RAW should monitor facebook, twitter, blogs etc. and start identifying elements like Engrich and Ravi. These people may be Indian or Pakistanis. If they are Indians and in India, they should be tracked down and dealt with. If they are outside India, their travel documents should be identified and they should be put on watchlist. RAW needs to start working again.

What I mean to say is that there is no need for direct war with Pakistan. We need to activate low-intensity proxy-war against pakistan and at the same time work on minimising pakistan’s penetration in India.

Our biggest weakness is that we are willing to trust Pakistan(s)..none of which can be trusted. Another weakness is defensive govt. that wants to treat muslims differently. Pakistan is using same muslims for terror purposes knowing fully well that current UPA govt. for the sake of muslim vote bank will not go after their assets wholeheartedly. On 26/11, all the 10 muslim terrorist were wearing Hindu threads to deceive investigating agency. They know fully well that Indian investigating agencies have been briefed by UPA govt. to go after hindus sparing muslims. Once the UPA govt. is out, we will know real truth from Investigating officers working under pressure.

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To much of Pakistan is not good for health. Guys I am changing the subject,

During the debate on inflation in parliament our PM said,

12 saal pehle 1 samosa 50 paise mein milta tha or ek mobile call
8 Rs cost karta tha. Aur aaj 1 mobile call 50 paise ka hai and
ek samosa Rs 8 ka .

MAHANGAI BADI NAHIN, BAS IDHAR UDHAR HO GAYI HAI.

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After Parliament washout, Anna Hazare calls for healthy debates

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_after-parliament-washout-anna-hazare-calls-for-healthy-debates_1616479

The washout of the first two days of the Winter session of Parliament did not escape the attention of Anna Hazare, who said today there should be “healthy” debates between Government and the Opposition.

Hazare, who has threatened to resume his agitation if the Lokpal Bill is not passed in the current session itself, also noted there are a lot of issues before Parliament.

“In the Parliament, healthy debates must happen between the Opposition and the Government,” he told reporters at his native village in Maharashtra.

“New debates and discussions give birth to new ideas. Thorough debates on issues must take place for a strong and effective democracy to function,” the 74-year-old anti-corruption crusader said.

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My impressions of calcutta nov 2011(probably applies to rest of india)
Massive reduction in beggars, ? NREGA at work. Many used to be from NORTH BIHAR after the floods, nitish kumar must be doing a good job. The traffic signals EVERYWHERE has transformed the traffic flow , which is mind bogglingly smooth.
Metro has been expanded massively , with a stretch coming to airport. AIRPORT IS A BIG DISSAPPOINTMENT, but i beleive A new one is coming up.
CORRUPTION IS ALIVE AND KICKING WELL.The tie donning officer in HSBC bank was unbeleivably helpful.Then it transpired THERE IS NOTHING CALLED A FREE LUNCH, forced me to buy some investment schemes (read bribe by back door)
ALL THE BANKING PROCEEDURE ARE LIGHT YEARS BEHIND UK

NOW this for the THREE IDIOTS OF THIS BLOG , MISHRA, BALLS BHONDHU, AND VIJAY BUILDER MAFIA who misses no chance to lecture the west on morality.
The maid in the house i was putting up with was only 17yrs. She has been abandoned by her husband after impregnating the poor girl. She was apparently like a refugee from somalia , skin and bone , till rescued by the people i was putting up with.
NOW THE HUSBAND WANTS TO DIVORCE ,APPARENTLY HE HAS HIS NEXT WIFE LINED UP

Also college lecturerurs now earn 50 000 Rs /month , a school teacher gets 30 000.
Which is fine , BUT WHAT ABOUT THE POOR GIRL AND THEIR LOT , this is classical petit bourgoise .SKIMMIMG OFF THE CREAM

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Vivisection of Pakistan – A Plan by B V Shenoy (CEO of Glamorous Vivisections)

1. Create a dream in the minds of Baloch’s, which centres around that life will be better outside Pakistan than it is in it. – 60% already done.

2. By long-term strategic infiltration – create a sense of resentment based on belief that Balochs are not getting there fair share of the country’s resources. 60% already done

3. Precipitate a large demonstration – supported by eSocialMedia. 10% done

4. Fund the main demonstrators so that it becomes a sustained agitation. A Bloch Anna Hazare could come in handy to give the movement a face. Work in progress.

5. Pakistani Army, will undoubtedly crack-down on the demonstrators and substantial casualties will take place. Dead Cert

6. Jaish-e-Mohamed, will take advantage of the mayhem and will kill a few Shia’s in Karachi. Dead Cert

7. Shia’s will retaliate and ask for help from Iran. Dead Cert

8. Iran will arm Baloch’s and India will also supply arms from its strategic position in Afghanistan. 50% Done

9. Pakistan Army, to divert the attention from this real problem, will put its army on alert and will blame India for meddling in its internal affair. Excuses ready and waiting.

10. China will create a diversion on India’s Eastern Border, to make it feel insecure. Dead Cert.

11. Patriotic songs will fill the airways and Religious Fundos will start making fiery speeches and the atmosphere in Pakistan will become more than normally anti-India. Probabale.

12. Pakistan Army will take over the Government of Pakistan and dismiss the civil administration. Dead Cert.

13. Pakistan will move a few divisions of soldiers to their Eastern Border, and Bloch’s will cease their protest because they will be asked to respond as patriots. Very likely

14. India will perceive the threat of war and would in retaliation put its Army in War Footing. Dead Cert.

15. U.S will ask for restraint. Not as vociferously as it used to, would ask UK to lead a secret Diplomatic mission. Very likely.

16. After a few weeks of diplomacy, both armies will retreat to peace positions. Dead Cert.

17. Bloch’s would be left wondering what hit them. Has happened before.

18. B V Shenoy will say, had Sardar Patel not died before Nehru, and had Indira Gandhi not returned the POWs etc. etc. and had Modi been the loh purush we would have further partitioned Pakistan. Dead Cert

19. Life would return to normal. What else.

20. RajeevS will change a few words of this plan and for the 250,000th time ask me to Shut Up, call me; Jihadi, Osam’s Wife, son of a Randi Mother who shagged a white man, Terrorist. I will still ignore him.

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I see donkey DR SHAN is bak, with baby like suggestions, “ask Pak to hand over Dawood, ask it to halve its army…..” Does this moron think before spouting garbage like this ????
DR disprate SHAN, u are now 35 years old, still unmarried and vaary lonely??

Now to business. Ashish and Gopi, welcome back. USA under neocons like bush, condeleeza and rumsfeld were depressingly stupid, like DR Shan. But friends, new wind blows now, Hilary and Barack sound clever, 100 percent I am sure they are working hard to plan denuke Pakstan.
That ravi, mahesh, manohar laugh at these plans reflects their passive handwringing personalities, I am not criticising here. Big danger calls for clear minds and bold decisive plans. Gopi, you are right. DENUKING PAKISTAN MUST BE TOP PRIORITY OF ISRAEL, EU, USA, INDIA.
Mishraji, Dr Shah Alam, your wisdoms reqd here. Good blog

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Some people here will go to any length to defend Pakistan..They need some real education on Balochistan freedom movement. Pl. watch this debate where Balochi students are airing their feeling. Their feelings can be compared with feeling of kashmiri muslims against India.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0cjJGI__gU

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1CyhgZJO3Y&feature=related

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX3i-ZKv82I&feature=related

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs9-YX_i244&feature=related

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Hyrbyar Marri’s Interview by Najam Sethi…This should give you an idea how sensitive is Balochistan issue. We just need to press right buttons-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRfxLjEO8FI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN03Qur6CTg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A-NZ0rhMBE&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL2D11B3B9EECE7314

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDU2YcPK4Ng&feature=related

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Why Rs 1.76 lakh crore? CAG Vinod Rai can’t explain

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Why-Rs-1-76-lakh-crore-CAG-Vinod-Rai-can-t-explain/Article1-773198.aspx

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Rajeev, Ravi, Manohar, Gopi, Shenoy, Mohan, Mahesh,
Let me, instead of “expanding the canvas” as Mahesh wanted to do, stay focused and dig a little deeper into the scenario I painted.
As many of us, well versed in set theory would know- I created non-intersecting sets to describe the various players in Pakistan- ISI, Military, governments, political parties, fundoos, civil rights activists, courageous journalists, “common men” and so on. Now, consider that these sets intersect each other- many of them do.
So, there are fundoos in military or ISI and government and in parties as there are liberal voices like Sherry Rahman and Hussain Haqqani.
But, to me the forces that are really winning in Pakistan are the fundoos- they are expanding their thought influence in sets above. So, we have lawyers showering Salman Taseer’s killer with rose petals and no politician of any significance attending his funeral far less condemn the killings.
As far as what we should do, I read Rajeev’s prescriptions- for all you and I know, we are probably doing some of those things- except that we are probably not very effective and we obviously are not doing it publicly as a stated aim of public policy.
But, I still maintain the only long term solution is to focus on strengthening ourselves- economically, socially, politically and militarily so that the Pakistanis start seeing the difference and the world sees overwhelming advantage to favour dealing with India rather than Pakistan.
Responding specifically to Mahesh, while it is quite possible that India and Pakistan ruling elite might be seeing advantages now in working together and not fall prey to American designs, the basic question still remain- who is in charge and even, who will be in charge, 5 or even 10 years down the line. What will be their ideological bend of mind? Will they, as I fear be largely Madrassa brainwashed, Wahabi tutored? Then, it would not still matter whether the ruling elite is democratically elected or a military regime. I remain pessimistic.

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ashish ravi shan and vinodjee,

NATO’s Great Victory
Destroying Libya’s Welfare State
by DAN KOVALIK

November 23, 2011

The other day, I was listening to the voice of “liberal” radio, NPR, and was surprised to hear its bizarre, and yet quite candid, report on what it apparently views to be one of the more hideous aspects of the Gadhafi years – a modern welfare state which looked after working people.

Thus, without tongue in cheek, or any note of irony, NPR, in its November 14 report, entitled, “Libya’s Economy Faces New Tests After Gadhafi Era,” explained that the biggest impediment to the new economic era is the Libyan worker who was simply too coddled by Gaddafi.

NPR thus cited a 2007 book on the Libyan economy by authors Otman and Karlberg who called “the Libyan worker under Gadhafi ‘one of the most protected in the world,’” receiving job tenure, government subsidies of around $800 a month for the average Libyan household, and gasoline at a mere 60 cents a gallon. NPR, citing the same book, explained that workers now freed from such a tyrannical world by NATO bombs, have been left with a “’subsidy mentality’” and a “’job-for-life outlook which has ill-prepared Libyans for the more aggressive and cutthroat world of competition.’”

However, lucky for them, Libya’s new acting finance and oil chief, Ali Tarhouni, is resolved to turn this situation around by disciplining Libya’s workers through “smaller government and a larger and freer private sector.” NPR describes that, Tarhouni, being the realist that he is, “has no illusions that it will be an easy transition.” The report thus quotes Tarhouni who states that, “[t]he challenge here is that this is a welfare state,” with Libyan workers expecting too much from their government. I’m sure Tarhouni, with Western support, will show these workers a thing a two.

Of course, had NPR gone further, they could have also explained that, according to the statistics of the United Nations Development Programme, Libya, at the time of the NATO invasion, had the highest human development indicators (which measure levels of health, education and income) in all of Africa, with a life expectancy of 74.5; undernourishment of the population at under 5%; and adult literacy at over 88%. Libya was in fact ranked 53 in the world out of 169 comparable countries, ranking, for example, above Turkey, (post-Soviet) Russia, Brazil and Costa Rica in terms of the human development indicators.

For NATO, its corporate allies, and its media mouthpieces, such prosperity for workers simply will not do. We live in a world where austerity for the workers is the order of the day – for those in Libya, Greece, Italy, Spain, Great Britain and the U.S. as well. And those who stand in the way of such austerity measures, whether they be a nationalist government in Libya, Communists in Greece or Occupiers in the U.S., must be dealt with accordingly – by violent reaction.

Thankfully, once in a while, we have news sources such as NPR which will, albeit quite unwittingly and clumsily, tell us that this is indeed what our military and police actions are all about. You just have to be reading and listening between the lines to find out

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~~ AS WARNED ~~ Imran the danger is here! ~~ MY NEW WARNING ~~ our older generation of press and media people would build up this Jinnah ~~~
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A major reason for the arrival of Imran Khan as a serious candidate for the Pakistani PM’s post is the clout he carries in the Indian media and the tripe he gets away with.
When he was down and out– and in isolation after jemima ditched him for Hugh Grant(same guy arrested in US for fellatio in public places) and other boys– it was NDTV and India Today who rescued him by getting him inot the public eye again.

His seeming charm over Indian media makes the Pakistanis feel that here is a guy who will handle the Indians like kids– as he did in those Sharjah matches fixed by Dawood Ibrahim.

A few weeks back when I said that we have a new Jinnah at coming to the helm of Pakistan– some fo the bloggers here scoffed.

Well dont scoff now. Like Benazir who sweet talked our Press and media into saluting her and then launching the Kashmir insurgency, Imran Khan with his fake fondness of secularism of the Iqbal variety and real fondness of Taliban may try to rabble rouse passions in some disaffected Indian Muslims and Kashmiris. I hope the Indian Muslims are smart enough to see thru his Talibani game…

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Mohan

In another thread we were discussing Anna Hazare. Surely you have read this too.

Anna Hazare mocks attack on Pawar, then condemns it

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Maharashtra/Anna-Hazare-mocks-attack-on-Pawar-then-condemns-it/Article1-773480.aspx

Need one say anything more.

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Angry youth slaps Sharad Pawar,
who belongs to the congress pariwar

was the youth so beqaraar?
kya tha uske sir par sawar?

Aur kitna karen intezaar?
Kab hoga khatam inka darbar?

Kyon ho gaye hum itna lachaar?
Kab phir se gaa sakenge, jhoom baraabar…..?

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I think use of violence in a democracy is absolutely wrong. Many people are praising the person who slapped Pawar but I want to ask those people, how is this violence any different from-
1. Qadri killing Salman Taseer and pakistanis treating him like a hero.
2. Congress leaders Jitin Prasad and Pramod Tiwari kicking and slapping SP workers at phulpur.

Use of violence against fellow-countrymen is wrong.

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vinod jee ,

zardari is very shrewd and intellegent man.memogate is a game to postpone forthcoming election.
moreover he has done nothing new ,nearly all **** president compromise sovereignity of their nation to remain in power.bhutoo wanted to gift gwadar port to americans.

jaswant jee is right in his analysis,shaking hands with america is kiss of death.

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Ashish,
Thanks for responding. However, I must say , we are going to “spar” here.
Here is my pointwise response.
BTW, I have exercised personal liberty in choosing the points for responding that me feels are significant enough. If you feel they have been yanked out of context pease feel free to point out.
So, here we go….

“But, to me the forces that are really winning in Pakistan are the fundoos- they are expanding their thought influence in sets above. So, we have lawyers showering Salman Taseer’s killer with rose petals and no politician of any significance attending his funeral far less condemn the killings.”
Honestly, I doubt. In Pakistani Siyasat it is the military that enjoys out and out upper hand. That it finds itself in direct confrontation with fundoos on its own land is good enough rebuke against this point.

“But, I still maintain the only long term solution is to focus on strengthening ourselves- economically, socially, politically and militarily so that the Pakistanis start seeing the difference and the world sees overwhelming advantage to favour dealing with India rather than Pakistan.”
Let me guess here. The underpinning thought has been a comparison between us and Pakistan, right ? Honestly, tell me – when has such comparison been made in form of choice – except for cajoling both the colonial cousins when they got dangerously close in adversarial terms ?
Me thinks, let us just be us and get better and better from the point what we are currently. That if the Pakistanis aspire to be us is best left to them.
And one more thing, let us stay prepared for armed confrontation and yet try minimising the probability at every given opportunity.
Also, is there any real reason why us and Pakistanis cannot exchange oriental porn and spices ? Perhaps us blog commentators could use some experience from the Indian medical fraternity that is silently doing business with needy Pakistani citizens offering them some specialized cure.

“Responding specifically to Mahesh, while it is quite possible that India and Pakistan ruling elite might be seeing advantages now in working together and not fall prey to American designs, the basic question still remain- who is in charge and even, who will be in charge, 5 or even 10 years down the line. What will be their ideological bend of mind? Will they, as I fear be largely Madrassa brainwashed, Wahabi tutored? Then, it would not still matter whether the ruling elite is democratically elected or a military regime. I remain pessimistic. ”
Honestly, me thinks it is the Pakistani army that is still going to be in charge for quite some time. Let us live and adjust with it, hoping sometime in future there will be a civilan dominated polity. Where I differ is in your assessment about Pakistani military being “wahabised” . They are dictatorial – with a vice like grip on the polity but they are not fundoos beyond the token gestures and lip service.

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Sharmaji,
A politician was slapped today . The anger and agitation writ large on the face of person performing this act was immensely instructive for those who are trying to hear the rumblings. We can go about our discussion on what is voilent and what is justified, but the average reaction among commoners has been – ” buss , itna hi ” ? Some comments – that vied for blooed and total elimination of the politician – in the comments section of this same newspaper carrying the news made even more spine chilling reading. These are the people who have access and means to use Internet. What worries me is the utter lack of credibility of political class combined with a lack of rational political movement chanelling this anger holds significant possibility for anarchy. Much of which could be fascist in nature.
To paraphrase my emotion – let me quote the protagonist of hindi movie “shool” , the protagonist being enacted by Manoj Vajpayee …..
“Kuch bhayankar ghat raha hai haya…..”

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Mohan

As you know, he did not get his century of centuries. Better luck in the one-dayers.

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~~~ WHY ZARDARI SHOULD NOT BE UNDERATED ~~~~
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Yesterday night at a party a friend made a very apt observation. That we should not underate Zardari. Not question his intellect, despite the fake college degree.

Why?

“You see,” my friend said, “Zardari was able to handle a woman as formidable as Benazir with her lakh nakhras and also produce children….

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My dog ate my memo by Nadeem Paracha

http://www.dawn.com/2011/11/22/my-dog-ate-my-memo.html

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Looks like the Disqus plugin has gone haywire. Messages at random are missing.

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Gopi

Your favourite line – the BJP is working overtime to lose the next elections.
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Ready to torch Walmart and go to jail: Uma Bharti

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Lucknow/Ready-to-torch-Walmart-and-go-to-jail-Uma-Bharti/Article1-773954.aspx

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So kishenji is dead
some politicians like CPI Dasgupta have said his killing was wrong, as have some human rights orgs
I am waiting to see if Arundati Roy protests
If she does then another sardarji will be in the news for slapping her.
MYSELF
In memory of the hundreds who died brutal deaths at hands of Maoist terrorists
Note I did not say just Maoists
ANYONE DISAGREE WITH ME, sunayi nahin diya, zaraa oonchaa boliye

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ashish — agree 100 percet

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Gujarat…..but it has nothing to do with Modi!Prashant Panday
22 October 2011, 10:00 AM IST

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The National Highways Authority of India (NHAI) announced yesterday that a new expressway would be built from Mumbai to Vadodara by 2015. The cost of the expressway is estimated at some Rs 7500 crores. The construction of this expressway will make the entire distance between the two mega cities of Mumbai and Ahmedabad covered by expressways. When built, the time taken to travel between these two cities will reduce to just five hours. If the Mumbai-Pune expressway is taken into account, there would be an expressway all the way from Pune to Ahmedabad. Looking into the future, when Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor gets completed, there would be an expressway from Delhi to Mumbai and onwards to Pune. No doubt, in a few years time, when Modi goes back for his election campaign, he will claim credit for the new expressway in his state. But then, what’s new about Modi claiming credit even when it’s not due!

When I wrote about the sham that Modi spins about his state’s development under his rule, many of his supporters argued that the roads in Gujarat were the best. Indeed they are! And (unfortunately for Modi) have always been! I remember living in Ahmedabad twenty years back and traveling often to Vadodara and sometimes to Surat (southwards from Ahmedabad) – the road journeys used to be delightful. I remember going on holidays to Udaipur (northwards) – again it used to be a fab driving experience. I remember going to the other side (westwards) – Rajkot – and the 200 kms long distance could be covered in a mere three hours even then. Gujarat has always had good highways – but all of them have been built by the Central government – not by the state. Even the smaller roads that fall under the state governments have always been good in Gujarat – the road between Ahmedabad and Mahudi being an example.

Many others commented on the record of the NDA with regard to construction of roads. It was indeed Vajpayee who started the Quadrilateral Highways project – linking the four major cities of Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata. Without doubt, that was an ambitious project. Again, Modi benefited as the highways went right through his state. For the record, the NDA government built about 8900 kms of national roadways in their six years of government. The UPA-1 built about 17000 kms and the UPA-2 will most likely build about 20000 kms by the time its tenure is over (going by the projects already awarded and likely to be awarded in the next few months). So unfortunately (again), the data does not bear out the claim made by many NDA supporters that the NDA built more roads than the UPA. Yes, their claim that Vajpayee started it all off is true.

Another damning report for Gujarat is the one of the economic data released recently by RBI. It’s actually the same data that I referenced when I wrote my post titled “Modi’s growth story is a sham…..” on Sept 17th – which said that Modi’s claims of a high growth record were all a sham. The RBI has put out stats (as reported in the TOI) which show that while the state GDP of Gujarat has increased by 79% in the last five years, the national average has also been about the same. So all the rubbish that Gujarat is growing faster than the national average is just that – rubbish. Also, the data shows that states like Bihar, Chhatisgarh, West Bengal, Uttarakhand and Punjab (all non-Congress states by the way) are doing much better than Gujarat and the national average. Also noteworthy is UP – given its high base of GDP. Of course, there are many Congress ruled states also – most notably the large states of Maharashtra and AP – which are doing better than the national average. If Modi supporters find the RBI data wonky, then god save them!

The Human Development Report released by the government yesterday also has some shockers in store for Gujarat. Its record on human development – especially malnutrition of young children – is quite sad. As per the report, 69.7% of children under five years of age are anaemic and 44.6% suffer from malnutrition. I am not quite sure why and how this has happened. I know for a fact that Gujarat is one of the most prosperous states – the poverty levels being much lower than national levels. Maybe it’s something to do with the food habits of Gujarati people – for many of whom the concept of “breakfast” is unfamiliar. Maybe it’s to do with the absence (or low numbers) of government sponsored mid-day meal programs etc which help the poor to get two square meals a day. One needs to look at this more closely.

One other possible reason could be that the foodgrains production of Gujarat is very low – given its size and its population. The total production of foodgrains is just 7.8 million tonnes per annum (even after achieving record growths during Modi’s tenure! I have always stated that Modi should rightfully take credit for this – but with a caveat that the low base would obviously lead to high growth rates). The population of Gujarat is about 6 crores. Compare this with UP – 47 million tonnes (population 3 times of Gujarat), Andhra (20 million tonnes – population 1/3rd more than Gujarat) and Punjab (27 million tonnes – population less than half of Gujarat). Gujarat is a leader in cotton production – and while that gives a lot of cash in the hands of the farmers – it doesn’t give foodgrains (most poor farmers and agricultural workers most consume what they produce before selling the rest to the market). One needs to see if this is indeed true.

The real truth is that Modi’s strategy is to claim credit for economic progress when it is not rightfully his. For roads, he has to thank the central government (whether NDA or UPA). For the economic prowess of the people, he must thank….the people! This is not to say that Modi is not a good CM – he is. But his claims that he is better than any that Gujarat has had or the other CMs in the rest of the country is rubbish. Also his record on non-economic matters (secular harmony most notably; human development; freedom of speech etc) is an entirely different matter

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presented to vinod jee,prajee and ravi bhai,

India Talent Show – Warriors of Goja AMAZING

on you tube

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~~~ 3 YEARS AFTER 26/11~~ We have lost all the advantages ~~~~
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If we look back at those defining days of 26/11/2008 to 29/11/2008, what have gained?

Possibly nothing!

HT’s Shishir Gupta has written an incisive blog that we have buried the whole thing without honour… and I agree with him. Why?

a) The main brain behind 26/11, Zakir Hussain Lakhvi still enjoys Pakistani and ISI hospitality in jail and communicates with his team thru his cellphone.

b) Out Yuvraj has linked the murderous assault and the terror attack with “right wing hindu” terrorism

c) Digvijay Singh and AR Antulay tried to link 26/11 as a RSS ki saazish and in a typical Congressi way tried to get Indian Muslim votes thru those statements.

d) India is now willing to walk more than half way to clasp Paksitani hands without getting the culprits of terror or getting any real assurance that further attacks won’t happen.

e) The softies of India now invoke the Cihna threat to tell us that we should bend before terrorattackas and forgive and forget…

So at the end of it… we are where we were before 26/11 and Pakistan probably still feels that it can get away with more.

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@ Vijay and other bloggers

I wish all of us put down our thoughts on where we have lost our way on our foreign policy front. This man Krishana is no match for Pranab Mukherjee who was handling the protfolio well during 26/11.

Are we better prepared in case another such attack takes place? God alone knows.

it seems pakistan has got away with somehting it dare not do to anbother country in the world…

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@ Mahesh

I find ur arguement strange. As per your logic we should not take any action against any terrorist group becasue we should be scared of the violence they would perpetuate…

Strange cowardly logic.

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@Mahesh, I am dumbfounded that you thought it was worth your while , to respond to a CHALLA SIKH , variously called trolls , “you do not read , because you cannot read” etc.I would ignore such CLOWNS most likely entred UK at the back of a lory in DOVER.
You are absolutely right , ONE KISHENJI will be replaced by 100 KISHENJI unless the ROOT CAUSES are addressed.In fact patrick french in his book INDIA ,A HISTORY OF 1.2 BILLION PEOPLE, clearly reveals the nature of this movement.
The POOR have been genuinely attracted to the ideology, so unless their wretched life is taken care of , nothing will change.Mamata has taken SMALL STEPS.
Still eagerly awaiting your post on the ORIGIN OF LANGUAGE
Yours Sincerely Shan

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@ Ravi

At this point there is no proof that this was a fake encounter. Just accusations.

Secondly we justified encounter killings agaisnt Khalistani terroirsts and in the end solved the problem. These maoists deserve worse– in case they start killing– bullet for bullet is the only policy.

Yes, we need to create employment avenues, industry and education. But Maoism, itself is a deterrent for all that in those areas.

The maoists leaders need to meet uncle Mao in heaven. The misguided youth need to be given employment and education.

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Guys ignore if you can , the dirty criminal, pak-peddling scums like Ravi, Engrich, Shan ( what’s the name he is using now ? )

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Meanwhile, after 10 years of war, NATO finally targetted the real scum terrorists and killed 28 Pak soldiers

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The above is directed at the punjabi PUNDOO BRAHMIN SCUMBAG

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Shenoy Sahab;
I am sorry that I missed you in Bangalore by some 30 minutes. In India, catching flight is an exercise in itself. Next time, I hope, I will be able to meet you.
Vijay and Vinod, sorry, missed you guys too. Delhi has changed in many ways, it is not the same Delhi, which I left some time back and now, do not find it easy to negotiate by bus, scooter, rail or any mode of transportation. Taxis are some relief but very costly. Would write my impression about my visit in next few posts. Feel happy and sad simultaneously by the change I witnessed in India.

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vinodjee this is in context of memogate chopper attack on pak soldiers and what is happening in libya and syria, ,

Truth is one and indivisible. When it comes to terrorism and Arabs or Muslims, the North American and European mass media portrayals enforces two distinct order of truth – one for the general public and one reserved for the Muslims. In all human affairs, facts are considered to reach the conclusion. End cannot be assumed to play with the facts, nor based on dogmas to explain the facts of human life. Under the guise of the Anti-Terrorist legislation, America, Britain and Canada have misused the logic of power to arrest, defame and punish people of Arabian and Islamic origin who had no linkage to the terrorism myth. The strategy dictates that selected groups should be detained and tortured indefinitely, to drain out their moral, intellectual and creative energies, making them incapable to survive socially or professionally credible citizens of the country. Consequently, the public will view them as crazy and undesirable people to be counted as numbers and digits in economic terms, but not dignified human beings

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NDTV involved in launders rs 2000 crore of 2 g money ? Case if filed
against this channel.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/73737895/ITNDTVPC

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Killing is sad. But maybe the Pakistanis deserve a does of their own medicine…

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Gopi Thomas on DENUKING PAKISTAN
Balwinder praaji on KISHENJI’S DEATH
Vijay Kumar on Shishir Gupta’s BRILLIANT BLOG

THANK YOU ALL – wonderful posts.

1. Praaji you were brilliant in highlighting the lack of enthusiasm on Kishenji’s death. I say it was more imp for us than Osama’s death ( who anyways was a has been). The Maoists are slowly being hammered out of existence, and one desp hopes for poverty alleviation to go side by side.

And yet, Balwinder, all you got for your pains was a very bizarre patronising attack by Mahesh, who got totally sidetracked by your figurative slap on Arundathi- the man totally lost it there

2. Gopi and Balwinder highlighted the MOST IMP task in the whole world today- how to denuke Pakistan. If it wasnt for their nukes, then almost certainly we would have struck across the border after Kargil, Kandahar, Kasab or for Kashmir meddling.

It has given them an audacity. Perhaps breaking away Balochistan, fuelling unrest in Karachi, Azad Kashmir, could be linked to a long term aim of denuking them, breaking them down bit by bit.

2018- India and Israel destroy Pakistani nuclear reactors, with CIA help- now what a lovely headline that would be !!

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@ravi, this MISHRA GEEZER is not just a reactionary twaddle , he is more than that , a bramhin , as you know the advice of caution about the bramhins, IF YOU SEE A SNAKE AND A BRAMHIN (not in surname but in caste character like mishra) leave the snake alone , stone the bramhin.
Anything this plonker has posted carries the same intellectual merit as a david dhawan /govinda starrer film

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People like Kishanji should be hunted down, killed mercilessly.

People would have been with the maoists if they targeted a ‘responsible” department
secretary, a minister, an MP/MLA; instead they were killing people on the lower
starta who really could not change/effect policy – like school teachers, police constables. They are foolish if they think the political or administrative class will care about the killings of constables or teachers…

Kill a minister; kill an MP. kill a secretary/collector, kill an IPS…then things may move in the right track.
People like Ravi and Mahesh — it is not the constables or teachers who took the adivasi lands or who are mining there–They are easy to target; most probably the adivasi leaders and people like Kishan must be getting money from these people.

Do these people want Mao”s China or current China?

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Why are anti-socials and pakistani thugs so sad at death of a criminal ?
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Most extrimist, violent movements attract criminals and thugs. When the naxalite movement happened in Bengal in 1968-71 period, every thug and criminal in the town, overnight became a naxalite and engaged in murder and extortion. Similar thing happened with the Khalistani movement. The naxalite menance in certain parts of india has attracted a similar groups of thugs, goons, extortionists. Criminals who engaged in dacoity and robbery are now naxalites. Anti-social criminals often sympathize with such scums and anti-socials. That may explain why the much derided scums and pro-pak thugs on this blog are so angry at the death of criminal kishan.

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Vinoo puttar I like yr style. Thx also to rajiiv, Gopi, Mishraji, Vijay, Shenoy for supporting me on kishenji, I thought Im going mad, I say something so imp and Mahesh starts jumping up down. Thx vinoo puttar, rajiiv, Gopi, Mishraji, vijay, Shenoy, Dr pankaj
Mishraji, u hit nail on head when u say for India, killing Kishenji was more use than osama hit. BRILLIANT SIRJI.
Vinoo, be careful of cingulategurus, his real name is DR SHANTANU MANDAL, got mbbs on SC,ST quota and rather than being grateful and joining mainstream and becoming gud man, he spends hours here using cheap language, abusing forward castes and saying absurd lies like in UK Urology surgeons earn more than school teachers.
He is most hated man on blog, got banned from Gautam Chikerman blog for making sick joke on raping gautams daughter. Totally sick man

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With the return of all the ‘usual suspects’, the blog has returned to its normal state.

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India Adopts Genetically Modified Moong Daal

In pursuit of higher yields India has started growing a genetically modified moong daal. It has only recently been discovered that this variety of the sacred bean has some hallucinogenic properties.

It seems, some two hours after ingestion the subject – while asleep – has a hallucinogenic fit, during which he dreams that a combination of CIA, Israel and India will one day be able to de-nuke Pakistan. Double Doctor and a self appointed Pulpit Pit-bull terrier, Dr Mishra and his Kon-Koni Shrimp Pottage, Shin Shinaki Bubla Bu are two such people who have been severely afflicted by this condition.

Conservative estimates put Pakistan’s Nuclear arsenal to something north of 100 bombs. These, say who know about such things, are probably stored in 10 or more sites, which are of international security standards and geographically distributed. This gives us some measure of the difficulty of the task of de-Nukeing Pakistan.

To-date there is no precedence showing that a country once having developed a Nuclear Arsenal, has been de-Nuked.

Meanwhile, दिल के खुश रखने को ग़ालिब यह ख्याल अचछा है.

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Gopi

Just in case, in this point scoring and sparing atmosphere, you form a wrong impression, here I will state it straight.

1. No one here is saying that the Poor and Adivasi’s are being deprived of their right-full due by the CRPF soldiers themselves.

2. However, it is the CRPF soldiers who are oppressing these people on behalf of an uncaring Government. One could easily argue that, that makes them a fair and easily available target.

3. Killing of other civilians is deplorable even if the killing is being carried out by the Maoists. No one should be excused of this form of terrorism.

4. Whilst hunting down of known terrorists is a legitimate exercise, it must be done in conjunction with other peaceful measures, such as consultation via recognised political entities. For example whilst the British Government hunted IRA terrorists, it also talked with its political front Sinn Fein. Whilst Babbar Khalsa was being hunted down, the Indian Government was in conversation with the SGPC.

5. There is a Political solution to these problems if and only if there exists the Political will to solve this issue fairly for all stake holders.

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A touching story on Indian army, Kashmiris and a middle-aged rotary club cricket team
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http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?279071

September 12: A middle-aged Rotarian cricketer in Calcutta picks the September 12 Outlook issue and spills his tea when he reads that Lt General Syed Ata Hasnain is using cricket to transform a troubled Kashmir. He daydreams and thinks aloud, “If Kashmir is really safe for cricket, then how about taking a team from Calcutta and playing across in the Valley?” He writes a brief request to the Lt General on playing cricket across India’s Iron Curtain and is surprised with the reply, “Most welcome. You will be guests of the army. We will take you to play cricket all across Kashmir.” Man Friday was dispatched to the nukkad ki dukaan for smelling salts immediately.

November 4: Some 15 club-level cricketers fly from Calcutta to Srinagar. Probably the first instance of a civilian cricket tour of the most militarily sensitive region in the world. Only three of us have been to Kashmir in the last 25 years; and only three have not been to London in the last three years. Some perspective. We are in blazers, looking quite cricket-corpo. People turn around to give us those looks; we feel kind of eyebrows-arching important. “Oh, holiday, right?” “No, no, actually to play some cricket.” “What, cricket? Kashmir? You guys part of some BCCI scheme? Who is funding your tickets? What, you’re not going for any tournament-shournament? You mean you have taken off from work to go and play kids half your age? Do you do this often?” And, “Just a minute, why Kashmir of all places?” We are enjoying this third-degree.

November 5: For decades, ‘Anantnag’ was a metaphor for ‘police firing’. At 8:30 am we are being herded into a military bus with armed escort (front and back) to confront the Anantnag Arsenals. The bus winds through roads skirted by the bat factories of Avantipura and the saffron fields of Pampore until we get to an open clearing where 20-year-olds are hitting vertical skiers into the clouds before they disappear into cold, waiting hands 50 m away. We overweights watch with awe. And this is just practice, hell. Then the teams line up to face each other. We mumble something about “we heard you reached the semi-final of the Kashmir Premier League, so we hope that at least we can give you a good game”. Their captain says, “I have spoken to my boys and if you feel that the spirit of the game is being compromised at any stage, aap apna haath uthaaye aur umpire ko ishaara karein. We are here to learn discipline from you players.” We motley collection of out-of-touch performers look blankly at each other. Once the mini-speeches are over, players state their name, walk to each member of the other side, look each other in the eye, shake hands…and then get on with the business of bowling the other team out. Anantnag Arsenals hits 192 in 20 overs; we reply with 130. We feel like kicking ourselves; the boys console us, “Masha-allah, kya badhiya khele!” When we are leaving, their captain says, “Thoda sa agar waqt aapke paas hota toh hum aapko ghar le jaatey. Kuch seb khilaatey.”

November 6: Rather than come, play cricket and scoot, the Rotarians decide to leave an enduring impact that will benefit the average countryman. We present an ambulance. This vehicle will diagnose potential cataracts across the Kashmir countryside and draw them into Srinagar where they will be operated by a joint team of army and other doctors. We present the vehicle to Lt Gen Ata Hasnain himself. We have not yet spent a full day in Kashmir but feel cocky enough to make prognosis to a man who has probably spent half his life studying this terrain. We propose that perhaps the time has come to take the cricket offensive two steps ahead. “One, get Kashmiri cricketers to tour the mainland starting with a return tour of Calcutta by your team next February; two, get the Pathan brothers (Irfan and Yusuf) to tour Kashmir, touching thousands of intending cricketers. These two young men, sons of a cleric, modest of background, successful and models of young India, will do more in killing the separatist movement than 100 howitzers.” The thinking Lt General nods. In my mind’s eye, he is probably issuing orders—get me Irfan or Yusuf on the line, let me speak to them. Thereafter, we drive off to meet the Budgam Blasters. We lose yet again on capricious matting.

November 7: Id-ul-Zuha. Rest day. The army suggests that we do something productive. It packs us off to the Line of Control, Uri, to watch unusual army action. Two of the bitterest enemies in the world unlock their border gates, march out with erect stiffness and carry important consignments to be delivered to the other side—a basket of sweets. Until just a couple of days prior to this, the Pakistanis were firing improvised explosive devices into the Indian side; now they were saying their deceptive Id mubaraks, hugging each other on the bridge over the Jhelum-upon-the-LoC and confronting each other with “Tumney parson firing kyon ki thi?” and “Maine toh nahi ki thi. Woh shaayad terrorists thhe.” Cat and mouse elusiveness. After they have delivered their sweet basket, the Pakistanis disappear from binocular sight. The Indian explanation: “They don’t want to be seen on Id. What if we fire on any one of them? That will spoil the festival for all.” I ask an unrelated question: what then happens when India plays Pakistan at cricket? “Mat poochhiye saab,” is the Indian reply. “We are in a state of high alert. There is no saying what a Pakistani will do if his country loses.”

November 8: Day out in the snow at Gulmarg. Cold. Cloudy. Raining. The horseman who takes us on a three-hour mountain chuck does a 2011 tourism review: “Best year. Bahut tourists aaye. Maharashtra, Gujarat and Bangaal se. Achhi kamaai hui. Aaatey rahiye!” Then he slips in a bombshell: “I walk 7 km with my horse up or down the mountains each way from home to work every day. If I take the relatively flat road, it would be 20 km and probably 30 minutes longer.” Nobody bargains with him when it is over. One of us tips his helper Rs 500. We return clicking silhouetted chinars against a flaming sunset with our Nikons and saying intermittent “aahs”.

November 9: Last match, against Srinagar Sherdils, winners of the 193-team Kashmir Premier League. These guys have filled in leave forms at their colleges and offices on the grounds that a mehmaan team has come from the plains. Time wasted for most of them. Because it is not a match, but a mismatch. The SS captain senses the aberration. Rather than grind us into the dust and spend a lazy afternoon at home, he reverses the batting order; when it comes to bowl us out, he puts on the spinners instead. When one of us misses two balls in succession, smiles replace the usual urban sledge. When one of us gets a 50, three members of the SS team run up to congratulate. When the match ends, one of us takes off his cricket shirt, presents it to the team elder on the other side and invites our entire team to sign on his person. They do the same on ours with a collection of signatures in English and Urdu. Collector’s item.

November 10: Last day. A part of our caravan winds its way to the famed shawl shops of Srinagar and ends up buying stuff worth a terrorist’s ransom. The deal has to be called off because our friends are obviously not carrying enough. No problem, waves the smiling storekeeper. Please take the pashminas to Calcutta. Go home and send the money. We think this is a freak incident. But it isn’t. One of our teammates wants to buy zaafran (saffron) from Noor Mohammed and isn’t carrying enough paper. So a deal is struck: the little boxes of saffron will be couriered to Calcutta and our friend can remit the cash only after he has ascertained that the delivered quantity and quality both match his requirement. What if we decamp, interjects one of us urban questioning types. We trust, the storekeeper says. We fly fazed into Calcutta after midnight.

November 11: Emotionally hangovered. Sleeping under a fan. No desire to move a limb. Desire to seek leave. Hallucinating of chill, chinars and cheeriness. Occasionally diagnosed as ‘Kashmiritis’ with an overriding feeling that the most beautiful part of India probably lies north of Himachal Pradesh…and not just in its mountains.

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ASHAMED TO BE AN INDIAN
The spineless WIMP , thw WORST PRESIDENT AND PRIMEMINISTER DUO IN INDIA’S HISTORY has caved in to china’s bullying and have WITHDRAWN THEIR TAIL and decided NOT TO ATTEND THE INTERNATIONAL BUDHIST CONFERENCE JUST BECAUSE DALAI LAMA IS ATTENDING.
I simply cannot understand WHAT IS THERE TO FEAR SO MUCH THE CHINKYS.
Little that I have read JANE’S ENCYCLOPAEDIA ON MILITARY HARDWARE, India has nothing to fear.Sukhoi 30MKI can kick the shit out of chinky’s Chengdu fighters.
India does not import oil from china SO WHAT IS THE PANIC.
LET INDIRA GANDHI BE REBORN , WHO WITHSTOOD AMERICAN SEVENTH FLEET THREAT DURING BANGLADESH WAR.

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Dr.Mishra and Vinoo,
Let me start with a basic poser – do you guys even read what is written , leave alone understand it ?
What is so wrong about somebody raising questions about encounters that it merits public slapping and ridicule ?
Do we realize – everytime State resorts to extra judicial killings, it loses an argument – and even more it loses credibility. Not to mention the tendency of State to “informally institutionalise” this practice. Furthermore, silencing those who raise questions expands the scope even further making the state fascist.
You may harbour great tolerance and comfort depending on who the recipient of bullet is – I don’t enjoy such subscription to conformity, though.
Another thing – and let me explicit about this – Notice here I haven’t even said anything about what Maoists do and what they don’t . The whole argument is about State’s actions.

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Mahesh, thanks

1. Osama and Kishenji operate the law of the jungle- they kill ruthlessly anyone they consider to be their enemies, and this includes women, children and the old. Like with Khalistani terrorists, where convictions were extremely rare, there is only one way to take them out- by a quick kill. As with Hitler, Pablo Escobar or Veerappan.
To pretend otherwise is an exercise in naivete or infantilism- I do not practice either.

2. You could therefore be accused of the same- you did not bother reading what our beloved praaji, he of few words, thundered. You certainly did not understand his simple figurative slap, linking the topicality of the slap on Pawar, with Arundhati’s well known forays across the line of bad taste when she almost eulogises Maoist violence.

3. Your riposte to Praajee was very unusual of you, hence my stinging response. It dripped with condenscencion and was very supercilous and patronising, perhaps because he is not au fait with the English language. Your hammering on about the misspelling of Arundati’s name was indicative of the superior attitude some in India have towards those who may not have been to DPS.

I put it to you, in this context, that your ability to churn out words like ’subscription to conformity’ in the comfort of your home has to do with the fact that someone is doing the dirty job of catching the criminals and bumping off the biggest ones. However I do share your unease of extra judicial killings, these are troubled times.

I also think that this blog has some intelligent nationalists whose spirit drives this country forwards- and I rate Gopi Thomas, Shoeb, Balwinder, rajiiv and many others in those ranks.
Thank you for reading

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This Mishra is talking utter bollocks. Kishenji was surrounded , he was given ample chance to surrender , he didn’t , he returned fire , if these are facts , and he got killed in the exchange , then THAT HAS FULL SANCTION OF LAW. But that is different to “encounter killing” which is extra judicial killing , the DUMB AND DUMBER mishra and his sidekick balwinder should remember , that god forbid they are visiting India and their near ones picked up by police on some filmsy charge and then wouldn’t like to revisit ENCOUNTER story by the police.

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Some stray thoughts:
1. We are not excercised by Naxal killings as much as those perpetrated by terrorists because the Maoists are operating largely in rural settings.
2. We think it is ONLY a law and order problem- at worst, an “insurgency”- as if that is not bad.
3. We think Indian state exists to deliver justice, establish rule of law and bring in development; especially in those remote outposts of the “Bharat Sarkar Raj”.
4. We think if only Naxals were not there, the 33% of Indian landmass under Maoist insurgency will “develop”.
5. We think that the government has a grand vision and strategy for integrated development of the utterly neglected areas of our country.
6. We think the NorthEast of our country either does not exist or is peaceful- populated by colourfully costumed tribals last seen dancing with some member of the Nehru-Gandhi family.
Let us admit, we are wrong or misguided.

Some more:
1. Some think Naxals want to bring in development or have indeed a model for development that has been proven to work elsewhere.
2. Some also think/ say that we should not be deciding on developing the tribals- hands-off, totally. “let the bauxite stay in the mountains” (and presumably let the tribals stay in the jungle, as tourist curiousity items and subsist on “jhoom cultivation” and hunting)
3. We think the Naxal leadership and their articulate sympathizers are P-L-Us; right academic creds,excellent command over English and wide readership courtesy an Editor of a national weekly of late furiously peddling his book

Both these “thought bunches” are caricatures- extreme positions. But, if there is one benefit that I see of the Naxal movement, it is this:
someday, and I hope that day is soon, the people of this country wake up and ask a very simple question to GOI and the state governments:
“Can you share what your vision for development is and how you plan to reach the fruits of development to the 33% left untouched in independent India? And, how do you suppose we and more importantly ‘the 33%’ trust you given that our experience in the last 60 years have been pathetic?”

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A confession , despite my vituperative exchanges with you and your “crab behaviour” towards me , I do like you. also as you have revealed your age , you are like my younger brother, quintessentially bengalee, despite being dislocated in Delhi. that includes the sharp mind , the pettiness , the bengalee crab mentality..
Bottom line is MAOIST insurgency is a product of intersection of two dispartate fault lines. MASSIVE URBAN ECONOMIC INEQUITY leading to creation of the IDEOLOGUES, finding readymade fodder in the DISPOSSESED , DISOWNED, DISMEMBERED from the mainstream the RURAL POOR , MOSTLY ADIVASI.

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FDI 51% ownership in MASS RETAILING.
I am all for it. The idiots are opposing because they are IDIOTS , dont have a clue about the MASS REATAILING.
however first few yrs will be painful , for they will probably fill in the stacks from their GLOBAL INVENTORY, because TO BUILD UP LOCAL BASE will take time.
BUT THEY WILL BUILD UP LOCAL INVENTORY , it is in their interest , ALSO THEY WILL TRANSFER MASSIVE AMOUNT OF TECHNOLOGY TO FARMERS AND SUPPLIERS TO BRING DOWN COSTS.
Also Buying is VOLUME will increase the profit for the farmers.
Then again few things are rather unique to india , the land holding is very small , but loads and loads of stuff THEY WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SOURCE FROM INDIA.
ALSO WASTAGE WILL BE REDUCED THROUGH TECHNOGY, a small example
cucumber (kheera) wrapped in a polythene increases its sell by date by three days.
lot of indian food will find markets abroad through the global inventory of these SUPERMARKETS

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Ashish and mishra doc hv ability to wake up slumbering blog. Superb writing you two, Vinodji shud be paying you.
Ashish thanks for supporting me, I think, not sure as u write too long, that Kishenji and his band of merry men r not Robin Hood, but murderous thugs out of control. Bet u if the hand wringers Amnesty jholawalas on this blog were to be posted to Maoist lands, they wud be bribing local police to take out Kishenji.
Mishraji yr ability to link Pablo Escobar , Osama and Virappan with Kishenji makes for great read.
rajiiv, fantastic article on cricket in kashmir, although dr mishra may dismiss as Bollywood style sentimentality. But one can only hope

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@rAVI, You wanted to know about my trip to calcutta. I was staying at new alipore and had to cross Durgapur bridge , where ashish used to stay before his departure to delhi.
I had mentioned few of my observations , here are some more. The taxi driver (90% are from Bihar) was speaking to his brother in MOTIHARI in Bihar on the mobile phone while driving. He said something which was telling. He said this mobile phone has drastically changed his life. Then he said AUR EK CHEEZ BAKI HAI , PADHAI (Education)
No i did not stay at five star hotel like the pandit mishra , and I politely declined the invitation to a sumptuous dinner at Bengal Club. Calcutta is only place in India where you have these clubs , a left over from the Raj.I had food in a eatery called DHABA near Ballygung Phari. IT WAS OUT OF THIS WORLD. I bought few saris , the one called Baluchori is jaw dropping. Scenes from mahabharata is weaved into the pallu and is absolutely life like , needs to be seen to be beleived. Half of calcutta is DIABETIC, despite that i brought over to UK my favourite Rasokadombo , which has an hard outer shell made of say dried kheer , enclosing a rasogolla kind of stuff , simply SUBLIME.

Now some more on Maoist movement. It is not only tribals . IN BIHAR IT WAS SC/ST who rose against the barbarity of the MISHRA AND HIS ILKS, the bhumihars. I had seen on Tv a footage where a Bihari guy was galvanising these BONE POOR HARIJANS against the landlord(courtsey BBC),
Your mention about mughal and british period is redundant to this discussion.
ADIVASIS AND SC/ST HAVE BEEN PUSHED OUT TO THE FRINGE BY THE BRAMHINICAL CASTE RIDDEN HINDU SOCIETY.
Please please please watch Satyajit Ray’s DAYS AND NIGHT IN THE FOREST(available from Love Films). It will give you a good idea about the state of SANTHALS , the abject prejudice against them , though a fair game when it comes to carnal matters.

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Game Changer – ” The Delhi Govt has taken the decision to allow FDI in retail to benefit Rahul Gandh’s Foreign Friends “- Mayawati
Game screwer – ‘ Why do UP vale go to Mahrashtra to beg ? ….There is an elephant sitting in Lucknow who is eating away all your money.”
Has Rahul Gandhi started ******** up the Congress Campaign in UP even before it takes off ?
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No business in the Parliament for the sixth consecutive day. No debates, no discussions, only criminal waste of taxpayers’ money.

What is the way out of this logjam? Who is to be blamed? Any answers?

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Praveen Saxenaji,

actually, the UPA has been reduced to a minority with the so senseless a confrontation the Amul Baby has launched against Mayawati.

Its floor management in the Lokasabha is in shambles, without any leader having a face to meet the opposition half way and to request for cooperation. They had earlier burnt their boats with the BJP, but now they are totally reduced to a friendless rump not knowing how to run the business of the government.

A VERY PATHETIC, UNENVIABLE SITUATION FOR A RULING PARTY THAT CAME TO POWER JUST TWO YEARS AGO WITH A “MANDATE”.

LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE FORFEITED THE MANDATE.

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Under the Cloak

Ashish

When it comes to cloaks, the Hindu Right Wingers have been wearing the Bhagwa Cloak for a longer period than the Red Cloak has ever existed.

And while we are into needlessly Ms Roy bashing, then be aware that the Bhagwa Cloak also brings with it most unsavoury sympathisers as well vote banks.

Now me thinks that you are confusing NE Tribals with Australian Aborigines. Mahua, Bhang, Todi, etc are as ancient as Madhura and it crosses all strata of Indian Society, as it does elsewhere.

What is the difference in Vijay every evening – moments after he has laughed at his own joke – pouring himself a wee dram, or Dr Mishra overstaying his allotted time in the 19th hole or even me having a Pint of London Pride, and the Tribals having a drink.

For further enlightenment on this issue, it will be good if you did look into similar predicament faced by the Aborigines in Australia and the Native Americans in the USA.

There are just as many people who profess the Right being right and left being wrong. To begin a quick count start by looking in the mirror.

Political Thugs are not exclusive to the LEFT – there are as many of them within the Hindutava movement, I don’t have to name them as I am confident that you know them.

If you were to become a mass murderer then you are absolutely right in assuming that you will expect some understanding from me. However, I would not describe that as support.

If you want mindless support, there are others HERE who will be only too willing to provide.

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Many things have been discussed here – the sad stae of red indians and aborigins, why Pak should be nurtured, mao uprisings etc…
1) Pakistan- We should totally ignore them letting them go through and complete the self destruction process. Many here has said the people are just like us, the issue is with the army. I think people are equally bad. May be they are brainiwashed; but then how can we ‘debrainwash” them.

We should focus on border security, intelligence gathering. Islamists there and here are major threat to us. Talking about Islamists, we all should be aware of our Govt’s inaility/lack of willingness to onfront these threats – the extremist organization PFI (reincarnation of SIMI) under the leadership of Aboobacker has opened offices in all states, their political wing SDPI contests elections in south and north india. All the people arrested in connection with the chopping off the professor’s hand here are PFI members. saudi money ahnd Salafi organization m oney flows to them (helping them open 300 plus offices all across in three months).
It is six months plus since the Mumbai jewelry dist explosion, three months since the Delhi high court explosion; we have not found out who did these, let alone prevent these types of attacks — i do agree prevention is too difficult and too expensive.
2) Mao violence – Huge funds are allocated for inclusive growth, laws about the use/abuse of land are there; but the corrupt politicians and offficials and businessmen use their muscles – Maoists should kill a couple of ministers, elected reps, or senior bureaucrats — things will change. Nothing will change by killing jawans and teachers — I belive people like Kishan are in the pockets of the mining lobby. Some encounters here, some there; mining cos can continue their extraction with nobody checking on ..
3) The real problem of the day is how the Euro and US recession will impact our growth. The rupee declined 7-10%, which is bound to further increase inflation. The decline is due to the demand for dollar that cannot be met by the normal european bank credit lines due to the banking and economic issues there.

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ravi ashish shan and gopi,good article by mr rajshekhar,

On our first visit to study the naxalite problem in Chattisgarh (Sept.23-25, 2006), we were able to gather lot of information from the series of meetings we had at Raipur with journalists, Dalit and Tribal leaders, and some NGOs.

For the first time the Prime Minister himself in his Aug.15 “Independence Day” speech admitted the naxalite problem as a “national problem” and equated it with “terrorism”. But we don’t agree with his assessment. Naxalism is also terrorism and the two should not be separated but fought with equal determination.

Since India’s ruling upper castes (15%) are mainly urban-based and “terrorism” is an urban problem, they are forcing the govt. to concentrate only on “terrorism” (read Muslims).

UPPER CASTE LEADERSHIP

However, not much importance is given to naxalism because the urban areas, where most upper castes live, are not affected. Urbanites are not interested in anything rural though naxalism is affecting a major portion of India and the Chattisgarh and AP states are the worst hit.

Both terrorism and naxalism are by-products of acute socio-cultural-economic deprivation which is affecting at least half the population of India. But the govt. is treating naxalism as a police problem.

The entire naxalite foot soldiers are our village-dwelling people — SC/ST/BCs, landless labourers or small farmers —who constitute over 65% of the country’s population and the worst deprived lot. The upper castes having scented the deep discontentment within the SC/ST/BCs exploited these innocents and taken over their leadership.

Both the Peoples War Group (PWG) and the Moist Communist Centre (MCC), now merged and renamed Maoist Party, are headed by Brahminical upper castes. But those fighting and falling dead facing police bullets are our people. That is why we are deeply worried.

The defeat of the BJP in the last election has made the upper castes realise that it is difficult to fool the oppressed SC/ST/BCs in the name of religion (Hindutva). But it is easier to exploit the SC/ST/BCs in the name of “class” (naxalism). Give a gun to the angry, deprived SC/ST/BC and make him kill the “class enemy”. And then the police, controlled by the same upper castes, are ready to rush and gun down the “naxalite killer”.

Naxalism has offered a short-cut to establish Hindutva — better than dividing people on religious basis by dubbing Muslims as terrorists.
ROLE OF TATAS & RUIAS

Already the Salwa Judum is fully infiltrated by the Hindu terrorist party RSS cadres. The Tatas and the Marwari Ruias of the Essar Group, interested in mining, are financing the Salwa Judum. Both the Maoists and the Salwa Judum cadres are tribals and they are often made to clash and kill each other. The industrialists are interested in getting Tribal lands vacated to start their mining work.

Chattisgarh, particularly its capital Raipur, has suddenly started buzzing with industrialists interested in exploiting its mining wealth. The politicians are kept pleased with bribe. Its diamond mine has attracted the world’s No.1 diamond magnates, the De Beers, a South African Jewish business house.

COURSE CHANGE FOR RSS-BJP

The RSS-BJP, which is an upper caste outfit, is exploiting the situation. But if it has to shift its focus on Salwa Judum naxalite activities, it will amount to a course change from religion (Hindutva) to “class struggle” which is totally strange to the double-distilled vaidiks controlling this Hindu terrorist party. But the RSS cadres are enthused. Big money is coming from big business and while mingling with innocent Tribals in remote forest areas they get the company of drinks and women. Since the Hindutva heroes do not attach any importance to ethics or morality as the end justifies the means, they are going at full speed.

We had a meeting with journalists at the Raipur Press Club and being mostly upper castes they complained about the naxalite violence and fully defended the role of Salwa Judum.

Already over a fifth of India is affected by this Manuwadi marxism of the naxalite brand. Almost the whole of Tribal-dominated Chattisgarh is affected. Right from Nepal down to Karnataka through Andhra Pradesh the Manuwadi Marxists are spreading their naxalite net.

We have nothing against the naxalite rank and file because they are all our own blood brothers as SC/ST/BCs. Our complaint is only against its upper caste leadership which is misleading them and making them easy victims of police bullets. The principal problem of India is caste system (Brahminism) resulting in socio-cultural-economic deprivation of SC/ST/BCs (65%), Muslim/Christian/Sikhs (20%). Instead of tackling this disease, the govt. is trying to cure the symptom (law and order problem). India is already sinking. The Manuwadi marxists will further push India to the bottom. We admit loopholes in the Salwa Judum which again treats it as a law and order problem. As days pass the rural India is sinking. If the existing police-problem-approach is not changed, the whole country will pass into the hands of Manuwadi marxists.

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ashish ,ravi and shan,
read Empires of the Indus by Alice Albinia, published by John Murray
accornding to him hinduism motherland is pakistan not india.interesting book.

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balwinder jee ,

What Brahminism did to India?

Destroyed democracy in India
Removed equality for women
Prevented Philosophy and Science from developing.
Divided people from socializing.
Made life a misery to most of the population.

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Im the Dim Imran is a closet fundamentalist and probably subscribes to the (saudi) myth of an islamic empire headquartered in the land of the primitive beduins. What Imran cannot get through his thick head is that islam is an outdated man made belief system and simply does not have the solutions to a modern complex world. And muslims ( whether in India or pakistan) are not Mughals but generally ( lower) caste Hindu converts to islam. Im the Dim Imran and his ` defence of pakistan league retards’ the Pol Pot’s of islam would do well to bear that in mind.

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Shallow, vague, cliched rhetoric. We expect something well-researched, and certainly nuanced from you Vir. Get your act together. This piece does not add anything to what is already being talked about – the usual shallow rhetoric!

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I think there has been an over use of the term Islamophobia. Everytime a terrorists kills a few innocents in the name of Islam a bunch of motivated people stand up and start crying that in case you blame Muslims, we will call you Islamophobes.

So the best way out is to tell our Muslim brothers and sisters, that unles you whole heartedly condemn and punish the jahils who create Islamic terror, people will start assuming that you condone their acts, because after all thye claim they are doing it to further Islamic goals.

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Almost every Pakistan leader and Army Officer are always defend the terrorism in Kashmir .They are saying that Its Freedom Fighting in the Favour Kashmir .They are always saying that its Kashmir struggle not terrorism .

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There is a tendency among Indians to believe that Imran Khan would do wonders for India-Pakistan relationship and will quell the terrorists. This is I think partly fueled by the hypnotic appeal 40 year old plus aunties in the Indian media see in him because they once saw Imran the pace bowler coming in to bowl from the pavilion end with wild hair flowing!

Nothing will be further away from the truth.

Imran once on the PM seat will use his considerable influence over Indian media to rake up the Kashmir issue, stoke terrorism and play it like a cricket game which can be won by ball tampering

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Imran Khan is a an extension of Jamat-e-Islami, a man with terrorist mindset. Let us not forget how he inflamed the passion of religious bigots on Quran burning.

He is basically an ideological terrorist who should be shunned.

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MODI FICTION : Karnataka Election & Feku Modi -
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Brothers and Sisters and Mothers. I know you have been waiting with
bated breath to see my charisma outside my Gujarat. I have just come
back from Karnataka giving my fiery speech. Ask me “how did it go?”. Ask
! Ask me ! Ask me na ! It was mind boggling. I crushed that Ma-Beta
pair under my feet. You know they were no match to my charisma. The
flood that started in Gujarat now going to wash away karnataka. The
whole country will see what this Gujarati can do. Imagine that Sonia and
her that son Pappu were trying to challenge I,ME,MYSELF Modi ! Now,
they will have to lick the soil before your Gujarat Ashmita ! The whole
country will bend before Gujarat Ashmita ! Imagine people doubting my
capability ! They think if my charm did not work in Uttarakhand and
Himachal, then it will not work in Karnataka ! I will show these
congressis and that golden spoon fed Rahul what’s the charismatic power
of I,ME,MYSELF Modi ! Now they are counting. I heard these congressis
manipulate these voting machines. I have asked Amit Shah to use his
underworld connections to keep eye on the Election Commission. I have
asked Gadkari to threaten those election commission officers with “dire
consequence” when we come to power. They must not think Sonia and her
Son can protect from us.

My Brothers and Sisters and Mothers ! Please switch on your TV’s and
Radio’s and Internet’s and Mobile’s and clap. The Karnataka state
election goes in favour of BJP, thanks to your favourite I,ME,MYSELF
Modi. I have got my party BJP “239 seats” in Karntaka Assembly ! It was
all my own I,ME,MYSELF Modi Charisma ! Hey !! Call my PR Agency !!! Ask
my internet soldiers to bombard the internet with my victory. India must
learn to market. Without brand, we are nothing !!!

This is not MODI FICTION at all. This is only MODIfication. : Feku Modi

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MODI FICTION : Electoral Mathematics & Feku Modi

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Brothers and Sisters and Mothers. I know you all are a little
disappointed with the Karnataka Election result. But it’s not my fault.
Ask my “why”? Ask me ! Ask me na ! See I gave 3 speeches. Just 3
speeches in 3 days. This got the BJP 40 seats. Imagine what would have
happened had I given 30 speeches ! Tell me. Tell me. Tell me na ! It’s
simple mathematics.

3 speeches = 40 seats

30 speeches = 40 x 10 = 400 seats

Do you understand the problem ? The karnataka assembly does not have
enough seats to accomodate all these 400 MLA’s. My Brothers and Sisters
and Mothers ! Now, you understand why I did not give more speeches !!
Had your I,ME,MYSELF Modi given more speeches, I would have had
problem with the excess MLA’s. Then they would have forced the Gujarat
assembly to accomodate those extra MLA’s and conduct the business though
my 3D projection system from the Gujarat Assembly. How much sacrifice
Gujarat has to make for this country !!!

This is not MODI FICTION at all. This is only MODIfication. : Feku Modi

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