Slammed for being diligent



The controversy over the CD involving former Law Minister Shanti Bhushan and his advocate-son Prashant Bhushan has raised many questions, one among them being whether due diligence by a journalist before using material received anonymously could be made the basis of a campaign of calumny.

Among the various TV channels and newspapers that used the CD’s contents—that clearly are scurrilous if established as manipulated — HT alone got the conversation examined by a specialized organization before publishing the gist of it. Ironically it was on this count that Prashant Bhushan chose to engage in personal slander — suggesting on my part a pro-government bias for the fact of I being a member of the national commission of minorities.

I take no salary and have availed of no perks including even a telephone —leave alone a government house to which NCM members are entitled. The facility I avail is of an official car. That too when I have to attend meetings at the commission or my personal driver is on leave.

I was appointed a member of the NCM vide a gazette notification— exactly the way Prashant Bhushan and other civil society members were put on the joint panel to draft the Lok Pal bill. Does that make them an appendage or a willing extension of the government? I don’t think so and would never make such insinuations. Their purpose is laudable and must be supported.

But in his self-righteous arrogance Prashant Bhushan engaged in personal slander against me at a press conference he held to discredit the CD on the basis of forensic analyses by private entities he approached at home and abroad. In failing to look beyond his nose, he forgot that NCM was a body created to secure the interests of minorities by performing the role of a watchdog.

I consented to be on NCM because I believe passionately in giving the minorities a sense of participation and belonging befitting a secular country. It was this very sentiment that had me disagreeing strongly with Anna Hazare when he praised Narendra Modi and the impeccably secular Nitish Kumar in the same breath. I did so without meaning any disrespect to Anna or to the cause he’s so gallantly espousing.

To avoid being personal — or behave the way Prashant Bhushan did — I desisted from reproducing in my original story his father’s threat to have me “sent to jail” if I wrote that the CD wasn’t tampered with. I reminded Bhushan senior the comment did not befit his stature; if that were my destiny, I would be locked up even if he were my lawyer.

Rather than using this bit of the conversation, I used, immediately after reproducing excerpts of the forensic report that declared the CD as not tampered, the rebuttal of Bhushan senior. What more professionalism did the father-son duo expect from a journalist who— unlike others who wrote on the subject — published everything under his name?
About time the Bhushans junked the approach that “if you aren’t with them, you are against them.” Democracy is about exploring meeting grounds, about agreeing to disagree.

The jury’s still out on the CD issue. I’d certainly say sorry if (repeat if) the report on which I placed reliance proves wrong. But I aren’t sure whether Prashant Bhushan will even then have the magnanimity to regret the slander he deployed to discredit the messenger who brought him some adverse news.

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  • Rajiv

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    Forgery :How Congress-Mulayam Crminal media forged the tapes against Shanti Bhushan
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    This is an expose on the Congress-Amar Singh peddling media. These guys are worse than dirty rodents and vermin. Here is their story.

    http://blogs.outlookindia.com/default.aspx?ddm=10&pid=2484#iframetimelinechronologicalmainpostname

    In a press conference today Mr Prashant Bhushan rubbished the CD by pointing out that it was examined by two of the top-most forensic labs specialising in this kind of audio analysis — US expert George Papcun and Hyderabad-based Truth Labs — who confirmed that it had “multiple gaps and signs of electronic editing at very very critical places”.

    How brazen this whole attempt at discrediting the Bhushans was is demonstrated by the fact that “virtually all portions” of the conversations of Mr Mulayam Yadav in the doctored CD have been “bodily lifted” from the 2006 tapes, which have purported conversations of Amar Singh with various personalities, as was evidenced by playing sections of the 2006 tapes and the 2011 doctored CD. Ironically, it was possible for Mr Bhushan to do so only because he himself had been fighting in the Supreme Court for these conversations to be made public and had access to these tapes.

    In the absence of these give-away lines, the mud-flingers would perhaps have succeeded in having some of it stick on the Bhushans, as their critics would have argued that it was a case of one lab versus another.

    Mr Bhushan said that he would also be filing a case against Congress leader Mr Digvijay Singh for saying that the Bhushans evaded stamp duty for a property they bought in Allahabad: “I will file a defamation suit against Digvijay Singh in the next two days.”

    Mr Bhushan also asked that the two publications that claimed to have had the CD independently forensically examined — by a well-equipped laboratory by experts and an agency that specialises in such examinations — to name the agencies that had declared that “the conversation was continuous — without any break and (the) said audio file appears to be not tampered” and that “the CD was not spliced and ran as a continious conversation”.

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    Postscript: Rushed transcript of the English portion of the Press Conference by Mr Prashant Bhushan:

    You are all aware that the copies of a CD have been circulated to the media over the last 4-5 days which purport to contain the conversations between Mr Shanti Bhushan, Mr Amar Singh, Shri Mulayam Singh Yadav. The purport of this conversation is to suggest that Mr Shanti Bhushan is telling Mr Mulayam Singh that I can get some work done for him for the payment of some 4 crores. 21 That is the purport of the conversation.

    Some sections of the media have also run stories saying they have verified the authenticity of these conversations, of this CD, from some forensic lab which they have not named, experts that they have not named.

    Well, at least we have now got this CD subjected to forensic examination from two of the top-most forensic labs specialising in this kind of audio analysis. One is a lab based in the United States and the expert who has done that analysis is not merely a PhD in accoustic phonetics, he has been employed by the Los Alamos National Laboratory, the Aerospace Corporation and the University of Phonetics laboratory. He has subjected the CD to a very, very intensive analysis, though he has only had a little over a day — a day and a half to do that and therefore the further work on that is still in progress.

    But the other lab which has examined the CD forensically is a laboratory called Truth Labs whose headquarters are in Hyderabad and which has been examined by a former director CSFL, CBI. This lab called Truth Labs is one of the leading independent labs in the country. They have also subjected the CD to a detailed analysis.

    But what is most interesting is the finding that actually virtually all the portions of Mr Mulayam Singh’s speech in this purported conversation between Mr Amar Singh and therafter between my father and Mr Mulayam Singh have been bodily lifted from a conversation between Mr Amar Singh and Mr Mulayam Singh which was recorded sometime prior to February 2006 and which had been filed in the Supreme Court by me in a CD in March 2006. Since then that CD as well as the transcript of the CD have been in the Supreme court and at least three critical part of Mr Mulayam Singh’s speech which is essentially all that he speaks in that fabricated CD are just bodily lifted from that CD of Mr Amar Singh which was filed in Supreme Court in 2006! And from one conversation of 3 minutes 22 seconds which Mr Amar Singh had with Mr Mulayam Singh has been just spliced and inserted into this purported conversation between Mr Shanti Bhushan and Mr Mulayam Singh.

    Not only that, both these laboratories have confirmed with full spectrographic analysis — detailed spectrographic analysis — that there are large number– multiple gaps and multiple signs of electronic editing in these conversations at very, very critical places.

    In Mr Shanti Bhushan’s speech itself, Mr George Papcun, who’s the expert from the US, he has opined that in his speech itself there are at least six clear signs of doctoring — of either electronic editing or gaps in the conversation suggesting that these are different conversations recorded at different points of time, and some words of different conversations have been put together in a digital audio file in order to create an impression that it is one conversation. You will get all the reports — both the forensic reports of both the labs as well as the transcript of this fabricated CD and as well as the transcript of Mr Mulayam Singh’s conversation with Mr Amar Singh which had been filed in the Supreme Court.

    So this confirms the initial impression that I had, that I had expressed in the press conference day before yesterday that though the voices appear to be genuine, the CD appears to have been prepared by splicing different conversations obtained from different places and different parts and having put them together in a purported conversation.

    Even more ominous…now, what this shows is that there was a clear conspiracy on the part of some people which appears to have the blessings of many, many powerful people in this country, not only to discredit me and Mr Shanti Bhushan and the civil society membership of the Lokpal Drafting Committee but even more ominously an attempt appears to have been made through the fabrication of this CD and its circulation to try and interefere and derail judicial proceedings in two very important cases which are pending judgement in the Supreme Court. If you .. those of you have heard the cD will recall that in this CD initially when Mr Amar Singh speaks, there is a reference to a particular judge of the Supreme Court and a suggestion that I can influence that particular judge, that I have very good relationship with that judge and that I can influence the judge. That judge happens to be the presiding judge dealing with two very important cases in which hearing has been concluded and judgements have been reserved.

    The first is the Amar Singh tapes case itself where we had filed an application in the Supreme Court, saying that the tapes should not be restricted, should be allowed to be released to the media because they show evidence of all kinds of conspiracies between Mr Amar Singh and various other people including businessmen etcetera.

    The other case is the 2G Spectrum Scam case where judgement has been reserved by this bench on our petition filed by me for cancelling all the licences. This CD, by purporting to suggest that I have some links with the presiding judge in that case and that I can influence him appears to be an attempt to derail the judicial proceedings and interefere with the judicial proceedings in that case which to my mind amounts to very serious contempt of court.

    This conspiracy to first fabricate the CD and thereafter to disseminate it in the media clearly involves a large number of people. And the manner in which some sections of the media have reported that they have verified the forensic authenticity of these tapes and have found them to be genuine without even reporting which lab, which expert etc seems to suggest that some persons and some sections of the media are also involved in that conspiracy.

    As I said, it is a very, very serious conspiracy involving several very serious offences, that is forgery, with the intention of defaming people, punishable under section 469 of the Penal Code, which is a very serious congnisable offence, apart from that it involves contempt of court. Since a very large number — or at least several — very influential people appear to be involved in this conspiracy it is absolutely essential that one goes right to the root and the bottom of this conspiracy in order to find out who all were involved — whether they are involved in the fabrication of the CD or whether they are involved in the knowing and malicious dissemination of the CD to media… all those are the persons who are involved in this conspiracy.

    We are going to file a contempt petition in the Supreme Court within the next day or two about this and we hope that the Supreme Court will ensure that a credible investigation is conducted because the Delhi Police where the FIR was registered as far back as on Thursday have been reported to have said that till yesterday — in fact, I spoke to that IO [Inspecting Officer] myself yesterday — and he said that till yesterday he had not even been able to procure a copy of the CD, though the CD had been circulated to every part of the media. He said that he went to the office of the Indian Express. They told me that it is with that reporter, who has gone away, that when I contacted the reporter, then the reporter said that no, it is with my lawyer, when I contacted the lawyer, the lawyer said that he was ill and therefore he had not even been able to procure a copy of the CD. Of course, this shows the Indian Express in very poor light that they have not co-operated with a proper police investigation by seeking to evade and avoid even giving a copy of the CD, seeking to evade and avoid the questions of the Delhi Police as to how they got the CD, who gave it to them etcetera.

    So now, we will play for you… first, I will ask Arvind to say a few words and then we’ll play the CD.

    Later, after the introduction in Hindi, Mr Bhushan plays part of a 3:22 long file of conversation between Amar Singh and Mulayam Singh from the CD filed in Supreme Court in 2006 in which Mulayam Singh Yadav is heard saying:

    in ko kaun samjhaayeN, ye chaahe griha mantri hoN, chaahe koii ho, aeraa gairaa, inko kyaa samjhaayaa jaaye…

    [This is also part of the 2006 transcript filed in the Supreme Court, in which, incidentally Mr Abhishek Manu Singhvi was defending Mr Amar Singh]

    Then he plays the 2011 CD:

    in ko kaun samjhaayeN, chaahe griha mantri hoN, chaahe koii ho, aeraa gairaa, inko kyaa samjhaayaa jaaye…

    Mr Bhushan also mentions two other passages from the same 3:22 audio file of 2006 which seem to have simply been copied and pasted into the 2011 CD.

    In response to a question, Mr Bhushan then explains that the Truth Lab report also corroborates the gaps and editing at exactly these points, just as there is a cut before where Mr Shanti Bhushan’s voice is heard saying 4 crores:

    So the whole thing is a cut and paste job and even 2-2, 3-3, 4-4 words have been cut and pasted in this conversation

    When asked if there is any difference between the two lab reports where Mr Bhushan got the CD examined, Mr Bhushan said:

    No, they are very similar. Of course the laboratory in the US has only done a spectrographic analysis so far in order to determine…. see, there work is still work in progress…they have identified 5 critical places where there are clear signs of editing or splicing in my father’s speech. Then the Truth Labs here has also identified here several evidence of editing and splicing and in particular, they have identified a cut just prior to the word “four crore”… a gap.

    When asked to name the powerful people who could be behind the whole thing, Mr Bhushan said:

    It seems to me that the first part of this conversation clearly appears to be Mr Amar Singh’s voice in which he says: ‘Shanti Bhushanji mere paas baithe hain’. Now my father has said that he has never, ever, physically met Mr Amar Singh. Therefore the question of his sitting next to Amar Singh does not arise. Now, that appears to be his voice. That appears to be a continuous conversation that will be objected to further forensic analysis. If there is no evidence of editing in that part of the conversation where Mr Amar Singh starts by saying ke “Shanti Bhushanji mere paas baiThe hain, unke beTe Prashant Bhushan haiN vo PIL vagerah karte hain” — if there is no editing in that, then it will become crystal clear that Mr Amar Singh has made himself, has involved himself, in the fabrication of the tape. That will become absolutely clear.

    Feb 2011 File Photo

    As I said, the timing of this release and the kind of statement that Mr Digvijay Singh made recently, not about the tape but about a house property that we have in Allahabad, seems to suggest that there are political forces– perhaps even corporate forces — behind this. As I said, this is also an attempt to derail the 2G case where the validity of these licences is pending judgement in the Supreme Court.

    On being asked how one could trust these lab reports and not those of the two newspapers who claimed [See above for links, as also in the previous blog post] that their forensic analysis had shown no tampering in the CD, Mr Bhushan pointed out that unlike those two newspaper reports, which were anonymous, here the labs concerned were not only giving an opinion but also the detailed spectroscopic analysis of the CD.

    Mr Kejriwal added:

    We called them up and asked them: Can you tell us the lab? They refused. Can you tell us the expert? They refused. So why are they anonymous and why are they secretive about it? [A question your blogged also asked yesterday while linking the HT report]. Why aren’t they publishing their reports? Why aren’t they at least telling us the names of the labs in their own reports. And the experts?

    And then Mr Bhushan underlined once again:

    No, no, not only this. You see the first thing that proves that these tapes are fabricated is irrespective of any labs, you just have to listen to these two — you see this tape of 2006 has been in the Supreme Court since 2006. I had filed it in Supreme Court in 2006 along with their transcripts which I showed you. Now how is it possible that a conversation between Amar Singh and Mulayam Singh has exactly these words spoken by Mulayam Singh exactly in the same tone and exactly in the same sequence as the labs have shown as appear in the purported conversation that appears between Mr Shanti Bhushan and Mr Mulayam Singh? I mean, it is absolutely, crystal clear that this tape has been fabricated. And these two labs, they are not saying it on a [], they are saying it on a detailed spectrographic analysis of every micro-second, one thousandth of a second they have analysed. And after a full spectrographic analysis of the audio file they have been able to make out that there are clear signs of multiple editing signatures and gaps in this.

    On investigations by the Delhi Police: Delhi Police claims that instead of accepting a CD from the Bhushans, since Mr Shanti Bhushan’s FIR had named Indian Express, they would rather summon the Indian Express for the CD, though in four days so far they have not been able to get the CD. Mr Kejriwal added that the intent seemed to be very clear:

    It was not just to get the Bhushans resign from the Lokpal Drafting Committee, but perhaps also hope that this would put pressure on the Supreme Court judge presiding over the 2G and Amar Singh cases to recuse from the case, judgements on which are going to hurt the interests of very powerful lobbies in the country.

    On how the 2006 CD conversations were found, Mr Bhushan said that when his son contacted the US expert and the Truth Lab:

    …they wanted some voice samples of these persons. And then we realised we had the Amar Singh tape. So we dug out this file and brought these tapes out….

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    Rajiv Reply:

    Guys , please take some time to read the above. You have read criminal Amar Singh’s allegations as carried by the Congress paid thug media , including HT and Shri V Sharma, couched in deceptive language but clearly trying to legitimize and co-operate with the well known frauds and criminals of India.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, Rajiv,

    This tape has the clear stamp of a Tehelka sting gone horribly ******. The soonest the party and its general secretary, Digvinash Singh apologise to the people’s representatives on the committee, it would be a saving grace for their ill-reputation.

    I firmly believe that Vinod Sharma was not motivated by any purpose other than doing the job a diligent journalist is expected to do when he gets a sting CD. Beyond this, it is indefensible to threaten people with court action who cry” foul, foul, fake CD, fake CD”.

    These congressies have cried, ‘Modi, Modi, rape, rape’ enough. Now it is our turn to scream “fake CD, fake CD”.

    JAI HIND

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    This tape has the clear stamp of a Tehelka sting gone horribly ******.
    I meant, This tape has the clear stamp of a Tehelka sting gone horribly S.H.I.T.T.Y……

    Tejaswi Reply:

    Listen, Bhamy, you were always a crook and people know what you are. Accusing other people of being stooges is not exactly a laudable act. But since you know so much about it yourself, it is not surprising at all – pot, kettle, black being the keywords. “Kokke buddhi” as some people would say. And before you call it slander (or libel), I belong to the same community so no point in raising that little ghost.

    shan Reply:

    @Rajeev, is india becoming a BANNANA REPUBLIC, I mean this is clear case of CONTEMPT OF COURT if amar singh is insinuating that prashant bhushan can influence the judge presiding over his case. ONLY IN A BANNANA REPUBLIC LIKE INDIA CAN AMAR SINGH GET OUT OF THIS MESS HE HAS HOLED HIMSELF IN.

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    Were Amar Singh’s tapes deposited with Supreme Court ?

    If so, how did Bhushans managed to get a copy so quickly to send to USA and get them verified ?

    And what was the original that was supposed to match the present tape?

    There are some missing links.

    Let Bhushans step aside till they are cleared of this controversy.

    If everybody has confirmed that this new tape against Bhushans were done in 2006, then it surely is not knee-jerk reaction to Anna Hazare’ s agitation or Bhushans being part of Anna’s team. It has some past history.

    So it’s prudent that Bhushans step aside and let the LokPal Bill discussion be continued without any controversy.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Prabhat,

    if Amar Singh can reproduce portions from the prohibited tapes, why cannot Prashant Bhushan do it?

    You have asked the Bhushans to “step aside”, twice in your brief post here. Your intentions are no different from those of Amar Singh, the congress party and other corrupt politicians, besides media leaders like Vinod Sharma, who somehow want to see the end of this Anna Hazare movement even before it has begun.

    Sorry, Prabhat. We will NOT OBLIGE YOU.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    You are at times most irresponsible in what you say. In fact your self-righteous ways are no different from the Bhushans. I wrote on the CD like most other papers (but under my name unlike others). I got the CD examined before using the contents (unlike others) and even got the reaction of Shanti Bhushan on the forensic report. And despite all this you accuse me of conspiring against the anti-graft movement.
    You do this because you are used to swimming with the tide. You don’t have the guts to be counted in a minority of one. And mind you, you don’t, given your leanings, empathise with most issues the Bhushans espouse. My position on those issues is closer to theirs.

    Prabhat Reply:

    Shenoy,

    1) I watched the video interview of Director, Truth Labs.

    The gentleman refused to say that the CD was “doctored”. He kept saying that few portions in the “source” CD and the “said CD” were same. He kept repeating this even after repeated questioning.

    Who defined which was the source CD ? Mr Bhushans?

    Mr Bhushan claimed that Truth Lab said that the CD was “doctored”.

    Now, that’s subtle manipulation of public psych.

    2) When one checks the CD is doctored or not, one would normally send the CD for the forensic test and the tests would be done for continuity of speech, natural phonetic variations and contextual use of words are tested to know whether the said CD is doctored or not.

    Mr Bhushan claims that Amar Singh’s tape copy was sent as the Lab asked for “voice sample”.

    Whose voice sample was actually needed?

    Mr bhushan’s or Amar Singh’s?

    Who was under scanner? Mr Bhushan or Amar Singh?

    Who mattered most at this moment ? Mr Bhushan or Mr Amar Singh?

    Mr Bhushan needed to prove that his speech was “doctored”. Did Mr Bhushan sent the audio tapes where his own conversation were recorded. No.

    Mr Bhushan sent Mr Amar Singh’s conversation with “others”.

    [ I am yet to figure out how did he manage to "dig" those tapes out so quickly if they were in Supreme Court's custody ! ]

    The lab was “instructed” ( in legal parlance “leading” ) to check if the voices in CD “B” were same as in CD “A” ! The lab surely proved that few segments were same/similar.

    The lab was right.

    But it did not prove “conclusively” that CD “B” was doctored.

    3) Let’s take a hypothetical situation :

    Amar Singh says that portions of CD “A” ( Amar Singh’s telephone recording ) looks like having been picked up from CD “B” and from other sources. So CD “A” is doctored, not CD “B”.

    Well, the debate would go on. Till it’s conclusively proved that Bhushans are innocent.

    But do we wait till then? Do we wait Supreme Court to declare Bhushans to be innocent and then proceed with Lok Pal Bill discussion?

    Then how can we catch the Monsson session ?

    How can we have persons with “taint” in anti-corruption committee? It will certainly dilute Anna’s position.

    So my suggestion is that let Bhushans step aside and Anna should bring in fresh talent as competent as Bhushans into the group.

    And I repeat again. Bhushans should step aside.

    On their own. For larger interest of the country. Else, we will be stuck up with this side show and miss the main show.

    [You did not take even 15 seconds to equate me with Amar Singh. And you grandly declared that "you would not oblige me !!! I expected better.]

    Prabhat Reply:

    “…..B.V.SHENOY Reply:
    April 19th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    Prabhat,

    if Amar Singh can reproduce portions from the prohibited tapes, why cannot Prashant Bhushan do it? ……”

    Thanks for grandly juxta-positioning Bhushans with Amar Singh !

    And thanks again for telling us Bhushans are no better than Amar Singh !

    Then what are we really arguing about ?

    james Reply:

    sharma..most readers and indians recognize u for what u ar a congress stooge who would not be able to earn a living without congress corrupt patronage…if u have any shame u will not hide the affiliation of ur boss shobhana bhartiya with the congress but that is what u do brazenly..

    u elmedia mafia think indians r fools when they r far smarter than congress paid profeesional agents like u and bhartiya..we know congress rewards sycophants only
    as per their 50 yr culture..

    u will say sorry if cd is tampered with ..wow

    u can just stick that sorry in ur empty corrupt congress owned brain…

    ur ncm has done nothing for minorities as sachar c has shwon..

    it is just congress divide and votebank rule…

    modi has done more…

    and why r u evading the story of ncm member regarding sikh riots..

    u dont reporot that and gehlot scam and jagan reddy 350 crore declaration showing congress corruption for decades including 2g and cwg which u hid

    instead u scream yeddy

    yeah andu have the nerve to talk about saying sorry after taking the chance that u wuld never be found out….just like ur congress masters have done with their swiss bank loot

    we at ‘india against traitors’ r circulating this to millions to show how u censor facts..

    meritorious peole go to bed hungry in this country…

    but congress paid agents without any ability except do propganda like u have adog and adriver..

    no wonder india is the most croorupt and with most poor…

    now u will censor this

  • Vijay Kumar

    ~~ :D ~~ :D ~~ VINOD SHARMA JI THE ISSUE IS LOOT BY PIMPS AND DALALS ~~ :D ~~ :D ~~

    A scared Congress is using all its Mafia henchmen, dalals, courtiers, handboys, toadies, bum cleaners etc etc to prevent a Lok Pal bill from coming in.

    I hope you dont want to be counted among them :D

    The whole world is seeing thru the congress game. Whenever there is talk of 2g, talk Yeddy. When it is about Lok Pal, get in Modi. When farmers commit suicide say… NDA shasan mein jaide thi !!!

    Because Anna has stirred India, the world’s top dalal, Amar SIngh- ex employee HT, along with his guru, DIGVINASH — want to label everybody corrupt like the Congress men.

    You have become their messenger :D Sorry to say !

    Ho HO HO !!! Sharmaji. The game is up Surrender. And instead genuinly care for the minorities. Your fellow Congressman and member minorites commission, H S Hanspal was bribing an amount of 3 crores to protect the killer of minorities, Congress boss Sajjan Kumar.

    But you have no words for him!!
    Let me again sing

    Aaye Hai So Jayenge Raaja Rank Fakir
    Ek Sinhaasan Chadh Chale Ek Bandhe Janjir

    Durbal Ko Naa Satayiye Jaaki Maati Hoye

    One day we all have to go Vindoji. Let the world remember you for a fight against corruption. NOT FOR FIGHTING FOR THE CORRUPT :)

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Excellent reposte to Vinodji’s article. Besides, Amar Singh, Sajjan Kumar and others of their ilk, have fixed the rate for purchase of judges and witnesses at Rs.4 crore. I am sure the price is fair, since they are experienced players in this game of buying MPs, judgesand witnesses. Even in 2009 vote of confidence, Amar Singh gave Rs4crore as down payment to the purchased MPs.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar
    Many thanks for caring so much for my legacy. Let me be the way I am. I don’t speak for Hanspal. So better write to him directly. Isn’t the way you brought up his subject similar to the way I bring up Modi of Yeddy? :) )
    It is obvious from the way you abuse HT that you have lost the reason to visit our office. But why take out those frustations on us my dear? That makes you look like a loser. This is just a well meaning advice.Take it or leave it.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    @ Vinod;
    This time Vinod, I think you have bitten more than what you can chew. I feel sympathetic to you, as my natural instinct is to support underdogs but your positioning is so wrong that how one can support you?.
    All along, you have come out as partisan journalist, while a real journalist is ear and eye of public and their spokesperson. You are defending rulers and their follies.
    Yes, ruler are more answerable to public than vice versa.. Uneasy lies the head that wears crown and you are trying to make that lighter for that head.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Vinod Sharma,

    Agreed you are not Hanspal’s spokesman. but are’nt you the protector of minorities being in the NMC?? :D

    Now if a fellow member tries to protect a killer like Sajjan Kumar, should you ot raise hell???

    Ahh ! As for me… I still get a lot of love and affection curtesy the HT !!! :)

    Prasoon Reply:

    Vinodji you have done lot of service to Congress party as a senior journalist. I think its high time you should expect a bigger reward form Madam. Membership of NCM is not enough for a person of your stature and service. You should at least get Rajya Sabha seat. Ask Madam for Governorship and I sure she will give you at lest Rajya Sabha seat.

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  • shikha

    Mr. Sharma,

    It is not just the Bhushans. Your own readers felt betrayed by your actions. Here is why -

    1. You failed to publish the name of the forensic lab that did the analysis. Let us for a moment agree with your claim that you wanted to protect them. You could still have published the procedure they followed to arrive at the conclusion that the audio was continuous. As an experienced journalist, you should have known that this case needed advanced expertise in audio analysis, not merely any IT forensic analysis. The report appeared to be extremely premature and childish, expecially the part how CD was burnt. CD burning statistics have nothing to do with digital content.

    2. Having a pro Congress idealogy in itself is not a crime. All of us are humans and have personal leanings. But when you are in a journalist’s shoes you need to rise above these leanings. Suppose I work in a govt job and always favor a contractor who happens to be my friend. I do not accept any bribe from the contractor but always favor him, overlook weakness in his product, while highlighting the same from other contractors. Is that fair??

    3. You should think why you have such a serious disconnect with your readers. You do not have to sing bhajans of Modi or BJP. But how do you explain that there was not a single blog from you with a scathing criticism of the Congress leadership in the wake of unprecedented billion dollar scams in the country. Are all your readers people of questionable integrity? Are they all trolls? Are they all prejudiced?? Remember, you have the moral right to criticise the leadership of party A only if you do the same for party B (for similar cirmes) Are 99% of your readers wrong? You should ask yourself , for whom do you write the blogs??

    4. You show your eagerness to blame the Bhushans, your own readers ( many times you have abused them). Have you shown the same eagerness to take the Congress leadership to task for the rot in the nation? After all isn’t Sonia heading the ruling party ? Your silence raises serious questions.

    5. And if you happen to meet some corrupt netas , pelase advise them to learn some technology before messing up with it. This is not an area that illiterates should try to experiment.

    As always I have held one thing in your favor, that you publish our comments.. and I would do that again.. Thanks for not censoring my comments!!

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Shikha,

    great analysis and sharp, stinging comments.

    Vinod Sharma claims “due diligence”, and as far as the verification of the technical aspect of the CD, I tend to agree with him. However, the very fact that AMAR SINGH is a party to the contents of the CD should have sounded the warning bells the loudest in his head, which, I am afraid, Vinodji didn’t listen to.

    I only hope and pray for my friend Vinodji’s sake that he doesn’t have to sing, “xxxxxxx xxxxxx badnaam huye, darned fellow there liye”

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    I have the report on which I relied. I will publish it when the time comes as that too is part of due dilligence.

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    shikha Reply:

    A report in HT mentions that the forensic analysis was done in a government agency with the most sophisticated equipment.
    http://www.hindustantimes.com/HT-relied-on-government-lab-report/H1-Article1-686567.aspx
    Could you shed the light on the credentials of the people doing the research? Are they educationally equipped to conduct this test?

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    Saarthak Reply:

    I wonder exactly which government lab is Vinod Sharma talking about in that article…

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    Aman Reply:

    Shikha,
    Great work…have lost my faith on HT now…all the articles they have published after the incident have been against the Anti corruption movement..They are doing exactly what Congress wants them to do….

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    Gianinder Reply:

    Dear Vinod,

    I wish you a long life and mean no ill but I also need to remind you that you are now in the twilight of your career (because of your age). You have seen all the seasons of Indian Politics and whatever you may have done in the past is past. You are quoting technology as if you were born to it and I can bet my life that you struggle with your PC (nothing wrong with that…many old timers who are not used to it do that). There is one thing that you overlooked in your long years….The changing times and the new information age. You need to realize that the old days when three newspapers headed by three men decided what is news,how it has to be presented, who has to be made a hero and who has to be painted dark are now long gone. Too much power was vested in too few thanks to the ruling government.(Just like Indians were only allowed to either choose a Fiat or a ambassador). You still haven’t come to terms with that fact that no editor or journalist now has the power to paint and successfully sell lies and prejudices.

    Shikha’s eloborate mail should make you think. Besides being a Journalist you are also a human being and no matter how deep your relations with the “PARTY” may be….you also have a consious.Dear Vinod if you wrote I am biased to congress then no one would dare raise a finger on you but the problem is that you want to be known and remembered as a great Journalistic Icon who walked the neutral path. Well that can’t happen if you don’t walk that path…atleast not in this age and times. You say you only borrow a car when your own driver is on vacation to go to minority council meetings and have never enjoyed any perks from congress. I have no proofs and will give you the benefit of doubt and agree with you but in the same breath, your owner received Padam Bhushan and a Rajya Sabha nomination from the congress. So maybe it’s your job insecurity that makes you do all this.

    You will never be remembered as a minority council member but you still have one last chance to be remembered as Vinod Sharma whose consious woke up and he told the truth and chucked his papers before they could sack him and walked out. Trust me, your earnings will be huge, more then you ever imagined.

    Wake up that consious…stop pushing it down…let it rise…that is the only thing that will go with you from this world….

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    sarvesh Reply:

    @ Shikha

    Very thought provoking analysis, let see Vinod Sharma ji heed your advice or not.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @shikha
    I got the examination done against a short deadline. Its operative part gave me a reason to carry it. Even Bhushans reports didn’t take long to come. So let both analyses be examined and another one done on the CD to come to a conclusion.
    HT is not claiming the last word on the issue. It got the test done to prove that its intentions were professional with no anti-Bhushan agenda. If you have a problem with that, then I can’t really help. The name of the agency we approached will be out shortly.

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    shan Reply:

    @vinod pandey , SO WHY THE HELL CAN’T YOU DISCLOSE THE NAME OF THE ORGANISATION , this is not prime minister’s security arrangement is it.

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    Saarthak Reply:

    What about Radia tapes Mr Sharma, why were they blacked out?

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  • http://- Rajeev

    Let us look at the actors in this episode-
    1. Bhusans – Known Maoist sympathisers. They are with Anna’s movement for vested interest. As far as their honesty is concerned, their integrity is beyond doubt based on reports in media.

    2. Amar Singh – A freelance broker (Dalal) who works for Congress & other allies based on requirement. The congress hired him to win confidence vote few years back where he skillfully managed to lure some MPs to congress camp. This time he has been hired to sabotage the Anna and his activists. He is more like Therik-e-Taliban of Indian politics. He too is darling of pro-congress media.

    3. Digvijay Singh – He heads dirty tricks department of Congress. He obviously has blessing of Rahul and Sonia and have even taken on Chidambaram on maois issue. He has been father of 26/11-RSS conspiracy theories. He has virtually given clean chit to ISI-LeT on 26/11 deflecting all blame on RSS. He has been going around giving ‘PAID’ interviews in different channels, especially ‘Devil’s advocate’ in CNN-IBN.

    4. Compromised Media – Most of our media is pro-congress, pro-maoist, pro-kashmiri terrorism. Vinod Sharma is just a pawn and that too a foolish one. He is not able to answer technical problems in this site but vouches for authencity of CD. He has allowed himself to be used by Congress.

    5. Sonia/Rahul – They are the one who run this circus behind the scene. A lokpal with teeth can mean an end to their dynastic politics in a decade or so. All the above 4 characters are working to save their bosses.

    Let us look at the similarities between 5 characters-

    1. Digvijay and Bhushans – Pro-Maoist, Pro-Kashmiri terrorism, Anti-BJP, Anti-RSS
    2. Digvijay and Amar Singh – Masters of deception, both come from MP congress. Both have indulged in smear campaigns.
    3. Digvijay-Media-Amar SIngh – Media gives both cartoons ample time to spread their propaganda.
    4. Digvijay-Amar-Media – All three want to make sure dynasty is insulated from all mess.
    5. Bhushans-Media – Both share their absolute hatred for BJP and RSS.

    When all of them are on one side, why are they fighting? Are Bhushans part of the circle who want to demolish anti-corruption movement? I am pretty sure they have totally different agenda in their mind.

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    Prabhat Reply:

    -
    Well, I will invite Shenoy to answer that.

    You surely managed to create a cobweb !!!

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Prabhat,

    a tangled, jumbled, rigmaroled and cobbled-up cob-web it surely is.

    What the corrupt-proven government side is hell-bent on is to manipulate the people of India to throw the baby (not the Amul Baby, by the way) out with the bath water and the media (at least some sewctions of it) is doing all it can to assist the congress party in its designs to “give the dog a bad name and hang it”, what shall the people do?

    Do we oblige the congress party? Or

    Do we say, Anna Hazare’s even proven-in-the-court corruption, the Bhushans’ as yet unproven, electronically-controlled corruption can be looked into leisurely and let us first collar the 2G, CWG, BOFORS, Adarsh scamsters?

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Prabhat,

    When the CWG scams amounting to Rs70,000 crores hit the fan and there was a huge uproar in the country, do you remember what the MMS government said?

    Let the games be over, we promise the country that the scams will be investigated.

    Now, if the Bhushans are guilty of uttering words to the effect that some judges can be purchased, let us sort the mess out after we have an anti-corruption law in place and they can be tried under the provisions of the same act, which they wrote.

    RC Reply:

    Mr Sharma,

    I echo the comments of people like Shikha who posted earlier than me. Am terribly (repeat terribly umpteen times) disappointed by HT’s handling of this issue. Its not about the fact that you are against the Bhushans , its about the way its been handled without proper proof of the source etc..thorougly discussed in many threads above. Its like stating an opinion on a public forum (a national daily no less) without even being sure about the authenticity of the proof in hand though u do claim that you are sure about your sources BUT now you also say that you will apologise if proven wrong….thats neither here nor there…
    Then why create such a ruckus in a hurry …especially that involves damning someone..u could have held back and properly got your facts verified by various agencies and then gone to print..

    Agreeing to disagree is a hallmark of democracy …u say…I agree. But if my reputation is at stake and u try and insinuate something totally damaging / absurd against me , then its not that simple …and thats what happened with Bhushans. You cant knife somebody’s reputation on his face and not expect him to react and furthermore say that its just a matter of opinion!! Its absurd to say the least…

    BIG PICTURE: The timing of the CD, the controversial noida land allotment to Bhushans by Mayawati govt thats broken out just an hour back, and many other such insinuations against these guys…Isn’t it OBVIOUS the Bhushans are being targetted and extremely blatantly at that…witchhunt is on in full swing..

    The agenda being played out here seems to be : dismantle the joint committee ASAP especially before the next meeting on May 2nd by targetting 5 civil society members specifically one after the other.

    Ankit Reply:

    Not too long ago, chairman of NCM that Mr. Sharma serves in was caught pressurising a witness in order to protect Sajjan Kumar. There was tape made of that incident. I never saw Mr. Sharma do a story on that tape. http://www.indiatoday.intoday.in/site/story/1984-riots-witness-pressurised-to-save-sajjan-kumar/1/135267.html

    In fact, we have not heard anything about it from Mr. Sharma. If Vinod Sharma had any integrity, and if all the grandstanding language that he has used had any meaning, we would have seen Mr. Sharma either fight for removal of such a disgraceful chariman or resign. Yet, the fact is that Mr. Sharma enjoys the perks that the position provides and therefore indulges in actions that would benefit his benefactor.

    After all this, he is shameless enough to come and write a blog telling us how diligent he has been. What do you call those who have no shame?

    james Reply:

    superb ankit keep it up..

    this is sharma’s claim about passion for minorities…yeah congressis r minorities
    with the highest income after looting india and sharing the loot with another meidia congressi sharma .

    sikhs r not minorities…only muslim votebank is because congress benefits…

    in any other country shrma and his nmc mate wuld be in jail for abusing a constitutional position

    but not the congress appointe sharma and his fellow nmc mate…

    and he claims professional integrity…yeah he shows it by making sure
    he does not report this fact in his paper..just yesterday he hid the news that SC
    slammed congress govt for not revealing swissbank names…

    this evil **** cites raghvansh laloo man as a honestman

    yeah by his pervert congress paid logic

    kasab and afzal are mesiahs of peace…

    he will get a bonus from isi over and above the congress bones
    fed to this bulldog who smiles on tv about congress corruption

    and adopts a stern expression against honest modi and SC for
    slamming the congress govt for looting india for 60 years and making swiss banks rich

    and he evn hides the news…

    professional integrity indeed..

    anti-coruption congressi sharma style indeed…

    patriots shud string this guy upside down and then force him to swim to his
    belovedd pakistan..

    unless he decides to dissapear in the congress sewer whre he and his fellow media mafia
    rats make merry

    Rajeev Reply:

    Prabhat,
    If you look at ‘India against Corruption’ activists, most of them are either pro-congress or pro-maoists or liberals. Almost all of them are against BJP and firmly in the camp of congress or congress like parties.
    So who are they really fighting? I am starting to feel that this movement is basically a show run by congressmen to keep BJP out of anti-corruption fight. After the removal of CVC due to BJP, Congress felt the need to marginalize BJP.
    I am sure genuine activists like Hazare, Kejriwal, Kiran Bedi are honestly against corruption but two faced Bhushans, Agnivesh are in for their vested interest. Hazare should keep away all politicians especially congress and maoist elements if he wants this to succeed.

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    maya Reply:

    well said rajeev

    just my thoughts ever since this started…

    the mafia are proactive against any political advantage to the bjp….

    just before last 2009 elections this mafia made muthalik the headline with a tehelka sponsored sting on muthalik and linked him to the bjp , just like this cd…

    muthalik was not in the bjp..

    sonia singh of congress owned NDTV ran a 24-7 campaign not counting the varun thing…

    by the way how many know sonia singh is a congress ministers wife…

    he was only an MP from 2004 to 2009..

    the ministership was a reward for her services….against the bjp…a congress nominee MP owns HT..another concealed fact ….this is our media mafia who pose so pious like shrma did about his integrity..on times now…

    what a joke…the man is hiding gehlot,assam,jaganreddy 400 crore asset declartion
    and has not reported the SC slamming of govt for swiss banks just today…not counting radia and 2g cwg etc for last 3 years etc etc

    and has the nerve to talk about being against corruption …the nerve to insult the reader’s intelligence this man has…see how he is hiding the outrageous sajjan singh fixing by his nmc member….

    the snake actually dfends it by making an issue of a technicality with Ankit as if this evil
    creature does not have any responsibility…as media atleast he shuld report it….if this had happened in a BJP state the guy wouldbe dancing in the friendly media studios
    with other mafia anchors..

    media just blacks such facts out…but lie against the bjp and modi 24-7…

    sorry for giving snakes a bad name..at least they r harmless when not attacked and definitely not antinationals posing as media as this disgusting blogger

  • Rajiv

    Can Shri Vinod Sharma answer the following question ?

    ( from the Outlook Report I quoted earlier )

    We called them up and asked them: Can you tell us the lab? They refused. Can you tell us the expert? They refused. So why are they anonymous and why are they secretive about it? [A question your blogged also asked yesterday while linking the HT report]. Why aren’t they publishing their reports? Why aren’t they at least telling us the names of the labs in their own reports. And the experts?

    If Mr Vinod Sharma, cannot disclose the lab and the expert , which he uses as a basis of the report then how can he base his arguments on it ? Who paid for the lab report ? Is the lab ready to defend its finding in the courts as its ‘alleged’ findings have been held to be ‘fraudulent’ by two reputed independent labs, who are named and not secret ?

    Its looks like Mr Vinod Sharma, in his zeal to defame the Bhusans and serve the agenda of Sonia-Mulayam, forgot the basic ABCD of journalism.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Was that lab by any chance located in AICC office??? :)

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  • Rajiv

    ——————————————————————————————————————————
    Mr Sharma’s bizarre argument..
    ——————————————————————————————————————————

    ” I was appointed a member of the NCM vide a gazette notification— exactly the way Prashant Bhushan and other civil society members were put on the joint panel to draft the Lok Pal bill. Does that make them an appendage or a willing extension of the government? I don’t think so and would never make such insinuations. ”

    @Mr Sharma ,
    Mr Bhusans, Anna Hazare were forced by the public agiation to be appointed to the commission. They represent the civil society and are the adversary or counter weight to the government ministers on the commission. They were not appointed to the commission because they championed government or Congress party cause.
    On the other hand, what locus standi do you have to represent the majority community ( Hindus ) in the minority commission ? That clearly is a largesse provided to you by the Congress party in power and you insult your own intelligence ( if any left ) when you try to equate the two.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @james
    Please go read what mitra and dasgupta write. leave me alone.okay?

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @rajiv
    What largesse are you talking about? In your defence of the Bhushans, you are sounding like D K Barooah who said India is Indira and Indira is India. Is it your case that Bhushans are anti-corruption and anti-corruption is Bhushan? Your priya baba ramdev opposed both father and son on the panel. Better known civil society faces like aruna roy, harsh mander, javed anand and mallika sarabhai have disagreed with the tactics of Anna’s movement though not Anna himself.
    Let debate happen in democracy and stop abusing those who disagree with you. Don’t be a self appointed ombudsman like the Bhushans.

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    vaibhav Reply:

    Dear Mr Vinod,

    “Better known civil society faces like aruna roy, harsh mander, javed anand and mallika sarabhai”……if civil society is India International Center then you might be right…otherwise if it is the “common man / aam chouraha” then it would mean Baba Ramdev….even you cannot disagree with this.

    Please kindly introspect ….was it not for people like you who helped run the British bureaucracy that the British could enslave this nation for so long.

    Please introspect….this nation was not enslaved just like that….you are helping anti-nationals

    -Vaibhav

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  • jai vaidya

    The author has to break hi silence and give the name of the ’specialized organization’ and the names of the experts.This movement was flawed from the begining there are to many groups with divergent agendas,all hell has broken loose when Anna did not go along with the prepared script.

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  • james

    Hindustan Times is a news paper which when asked by Congress to bend, it will start crawling….and same holds true for the journalists employed by them. (there are more absuvie/uncivilised ways to put it, but I am avoiding that) Look at the illustrious record they have got…disgraced Vir Sanghvi…even their earlier editor quit in disgrace over plagrisim scandal…..

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  • james

    Just heard mr vinod sharma shed crocodile tears on Arnab Goswami show on Times Now….”I am professional journalist….trust my judgment and dont question my sources”…profesional journalist….well he is one who is objective and un biased…and if he has biases, states them upfront….Look at Swapan Das Gupta and Chandan Mitra –they are totally open about their bias for BJP. Each time Mr Vinod Sharma is accused as being defacto spokesperson of Congress, he raises his voice….

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    nandu Reply:

    why should he ?just because you demand it ? One thing is clear we are living in a highly polarised time . The call is always whether you are with me and if not your the enemy . Try learning to be a bit objective. These heroes from the civil society are not angels who have descended from the heavens .They are also part of our society and today it is convenient for them to stand aside and say we are clean they are corrupt. They all have as murky a past as the people in the govt but in todays time it is fashionable to malign the establishment / government / congress, but we have had crusaders in the past who later showed their clay feet. Remember VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH and his antics and the damage he did to indian polity and society . Don’t allow similar episodes to re-occur by blindly believing in some people to be unquestionable heroes . Leave some space for objective thing too.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Nandu,

    we are in any case not looking for angels. One angel, Sonia Gandhi is enough for both India and Italy. We are looking for men, who are human, whose feet are firmly planted on mother earth and whose heads are solidly screwed on their shoulders. We have them in the personae of the five members on the drafting committee.

    We don’t mind your not being with us. Enjoy your being with the corrupt congress and the angel.

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  • shan

    Well bloggers , barkha dutt takes backhanders for promoting aamir khan film (25 lakhs) on NDTV , god knows how much she got from nira radia.mayank sekhar from his reviews it appears he is also on the payroll of khans . So Vinod Sharma , HOW MUCH DID YOU GET.
    Pimps and prostitutes are not only to be found in the political arena , their LAPDOGS the journalist are no better.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @shan
    You mind your language please if you want a response. Or else go take a long walk.

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    shan Reply:

    @vinod sharma , so what would have been the proper reply. journalist are the epitome of all virtuous act , they dont take backhanders , they ARE COMPLETELY UNBIASED.
    I say WAKEY WAKEY

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  • Rajiv

    Regarding the fraudulent, manufactured CD’s peddled by anti-LokPal bill criminals through HT times , the question being asked is

    “Is Pappu ( CD ) ka Papa kaun hai ” ?

    The answer
    “Is Pappu ka Papa Amar Singh or Mummy Congress hai. Our is Papu ko subah morning walk pay hamaray, Vinod Sharma Ji lay kay niklay thai. Par is Pappu nay unki pant geeli kar di”

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  • Rajiv

    @B.V. Shenoy

    The question you should aks is why did those who have fabricated this CD to malign the commission tasked with framing the lokpal bill choose to send the so called sting CD ‘Vinod Sharma Ji to peddle their fabrications and falsehoods ? Why did they not send the fabricated CD to
    say journalists like Swapan DasGupta or Chandan Mitra ?
    The crooks were absolutely right in thinking that they would find a sympathetic hearing and airing from Mr Vinod Sharma, whom they could count as one of their own. Mr Sharma’s so far farcical defense and bizarre arguments have only condemned him further.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Rajiv
    You are not aware of full facts. Or you are deliberately being selective in your recall. The CD’s contents were telecast by most channels and published by two newspapers before the HT, the Indian Express and ToI came into the picture. Express ran the excerpts without cross check, the ToI said the CD was not doctored a day after the HT.
    As for Mitra and Dasgupta, they oppose the Bhushans on many issues on which I support them— for example narmada aandolan, nexal problem etc. The HT has nothing against them. We only took a professional call on seeing the channels run the stuff.

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  • Rajiv

    Question No 2:

    Does Mr Sharma, know who the source of this now fraudulent and fabricated ( as per two reputed audio labs ) CD is ?
    Does he air and report on any CD received anonymously ?

    That answer I think, should come after Mr Sharma is subjected to a lie-detector test.

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  • Preeti Sharma

    Mr. Vinod Sharma,
    Your credibility is seriously at stake. You need to disclose where you had the tape examined.. This cause is too big , to be frittered away. Hindu, Muslim, silk and Christians all have united to fight against corruption, please awaken your soul. You can do something good here. You don’t want to be remembered for putting a spanner in India’s fight against corruption

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    reality bites Reply:

    agree!!

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Preeti
    I respect your words and sentiments. I promise that I will disclose the report when the time comes. I can’t do that in a hurry as that will compromise people who went out of the way to do the job quickly for us. Pl understand. And the purpose is not to derail the anti-graft movement.

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    Saarthak Reply:

    How will it compromise the security of the people Mr Sharma? Isn’t it obvious that the might of the Congress Party is behind the tapes of the Bhushans…in fact its the lab in Hyderabad from where Prashant Bhushan got his tape examined..those guys should live in fear..not the people that run your “government lab” .And of course, we’re just asking you to name the lab..not the people who run it.

    I wonder when your appropriate time to reveal this info will come. Quite suddenly, there was no news of the Bhushan tapes in todays Hindustan Times. I found it bizarre after it was in the headlines for 3 days continuously and now no news at all! Funny how you and HT have been shut up after being shown the mirror

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    maya Reply:

    what credibility preeti….u have not been following ht and sharma for ytears….

    history does not begin now…

    shobhana bhartiya publisher owner of ht is congress nominee mp

    many redaders no what elmedia is upto as congress mafia pro congress anti-bjp

    everone learns at their own speed…late can be too late because india is afire because of this congress mafia fooling us posing as media and innocents like u trust them even after radia tapes which many people did not need to know this mafia which hid them…

    sharma is not covering facts like lok ayukt against delhi govt,gehlot,assam and ysr jagan 400 cr0re assets..he hid 2g and cwg scams till sc exposed them..

    he hid sc slamming govt on swiss banks just yesterday…

    he hid his fellow nmc meber’s anti-constiutional act of fixing sikh riots in favor of sajjan singh

    this is the kind of corrupt shamless congres agenda he runs for his benefit…

    in decent country meida is watchdog of govt..

    no one can accuse sharma of being watchdog…

    he is afvorite lapdog with crumbs like nmc position to show for it not counting the
    bribes that ht gets ….

    and peole like u r talking about credibility…

    only in gullible india..no wonder it has been ruled and looted for centuries…

    dont worry being a gullible hindu u will never learn….and instead u will forget..

    but u will have a big ego when someone says u r being fooled….

    like jago u will not blame sharma for frauding u….

    hindus have no sense of anger at anything…they just run out of kashmir,pakistan,afghanistsan

    like sheep…and dont feel anything when media do not even report kashmir,train victims in godhra because their lives r worthless….and no one respects them because they dont do that themselves…

    instead they create jaichands like this mafia blogger posing as media…

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    Rajiv Reply:

    Isn’t Digvijay the same dirty thug politician who graced the ceremony to release a book charging that the LeT criminal terrorist attack on Mumbai was actually an Hindu-RSS conspiracy ? Or was it someone else ?

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    Rajeev Reply:

    He and clown prince virtually gave clean chit to IM-LeT-ISI on 26/11. Infact they have emerged as biggest supporters of Islamic terror against India.

    james Reply:

    rajiv it was digvijay

    and he was making calls to karkare about foisting cases against hindus…

    when islamists were bombing inidia regularly for years

    the phone records show it…

    so what was a man without any official relationship with karkare

    doing talking back and forth with policeman karkare..

    this is how congress has run country for decades..

    everyone is bought out

    police cbi,ed of hasan ali fame
    mediamafia

    and all are controlled by an italian whose frend quatrochi
    was released after a conspiracy to make his case weak in argentina and law mister bharadwaj
    dfereezed q account…

    media mafia r doing their bit..they never talk quatrochi
    and praise crook bbharad waj for plotting against yeddy who they scream about faithfully

    wow waht a country under congress….constution oath takers r traitors period…

    no wonder for 11 years they have been plotting against the honest incorruptible moid working tirelessly for people…

    and then they wag their ugly tongues claiming they r against corruption..

    by praising raghuvansh of laloo fame and hiding gehlot,assam,ysr jagan,2g and cwg smams and radia tapes..

    and these same evil turds r not willing to disclose the tape as kejriwal demanded today..

    these evil turds from media mafia think indians r fools ..after all they r congressis
    posing as media….loot and jhut is their expertise to survive under congress patronage..

    and shamelssly they show up in meida mafia studios with friendly congressowned anchors..

    the radia anchor writes in HT..no surprises there..fellow dons in media ..after all
    working to gether

    Prabhat Reply:

    Would you please request Vajpayee to file his reply under Oath, what he did about Bofor case during his 6 years of tenure and why did he ask Fernades NOT TOTOUCH Bofor files !!

  • jai vaidya

    So when has “:specialised organisation” morphed into a “source?” The general thought is that you had a professional organizstion that had certified the CDs. But now, you claim that some source has whispered in your ear.. Can you explain this subtle change of words?

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Jai vaidya
    We have the report of the professional agency. It was quoted in detail on Saturday. The report on Monday refers to sources in the same organisation in response to Prashant Bhushan’s claims based on the tests he got done by private entities. Hope you have got it now.

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  • http://htblogs reality bites

    Amar Singh and the ilk are the scum of the earth and you too Mr Journalist, with all your,Oh so pure!! persona sickens us Indians. So just do not write, let us all just stop reading and do for once what our hearts believe is right, for our hearts are the BEST guide post and right now the path Mr Hazare is showing appeals, so let us do it!

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  • sanju

    Guys ,We should stop this **** jeneralism of HT .People should stop buying HT and TOI.Our only question is timing.Why now Vinod sharma. Be afraid of God as you guys trying to stop this anti corruption movement.People of India knows everybody who is right and who is wrong.Jai hind

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @sanju
    You are wrong Sanju. The reports on the CD will not detract the media from the need to have a strong lok pal. Please don’t confuse issues.

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    james Reply:

    yeah we know media ….ndtv anchor is blogging in a friendly ht….u hid radia tapes..
    u hid gehlot,dixit, and ysr scam and also asssam scam….jagan reddy declared 400 crores and not a word from u…who screams yeddy every hour…

    ur wors are lies u congress gold medalist fraud…

    u r not reporting fellow nmc member trying to fix 1984 riot in sajjan, favor..

    that is why congress chooses people like u for nmc commission..

    even if u r made to stand upside down…u will not know what proffessional integrity is…not only r u an antinational but u do not even have a brain…

    50 percent cutoff major who made a living from corrupt congress bones…

    so go and make sure that all congress scams r hidden..

    u pick on ankit on a factual technicality about this corrupt nmc guy not being chair….

    yeah we know u r the chair….and the entire commission is picked by corrupt congress to appoint frauds and antinationals like u who live off sikh dead and hide godhra trian
    and then talk of post godhra only…

    u take us for idiots just like ur congress owners…

    u r a disgrace to india, media, and humanrace…

    media is watchdog of govt in other countries but u r a shameless lapdog who smiles like a bull dog on tv before millions to impress sonia and rahul…

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  • Vijay Kumar

    ~~ :D :D ~~ :D :D ~~~ WILL WE LET OUR VILLIANS WIN? ~~~ :D :D ~~~ :D :D ~~

    There is Mahabharata on right now,,, and pitted against the good people of India are the Yuvraj/ Yamraj, Digvinash, International dalla= Amar and similar corrupt frauds.

    They use the CBI, police, court journalists with dreams of kursi and what not as their battle soldiers.

    LET US ALL UNITE AND PUNISH THE CORRPUT, THE DALLA-S AND KICKBACK TAKERS !!

    Even if they succeed in round one by destroying the Lokpal bill, we have the deciding round to play– the vote.

    Haum honge kamyaab !!! :D :D :D

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  • Praveen Saxena

    Mr Vinod Sharma
    Discussing the story done by HT carrying Mr Vinod Sharma’s byeline , within the four corners of the functioning of a free but responsible Press , I would like to submit the following questions to Mr Vinod Sharma

    1. The CD contained conversation between three persons i.e Mulayam Singh, Amar Singh and Shanti Bhushan, Whereas reactions of Shanti Bhushan and Amar Singh were taken , why no reaction was taken of Mulayam Singh?
    Shanti Bhushan denied it outright and Amar Singh’s reaction is as under

    “Amar Singh refused to comment on the plea that he had no memory of it. “I don’t remember anything. I didn’t make the CD,” he told HT. At another point, he mocked Bhushan’s advocate son Prashant Bhushan, who is seeking vacation of the SC stay to bring into public domain some earlier tapes in which Singh figures. ”

    Now with one denying it and the other expressing lack of memory , it was all the more neccessary to get the reaction of Mulayam Singh . It would not have been difficult for the Political Editor of HT to speak to Mulayam Singh or his representative. Now Mulayam Singh’s complete denial is also on record.

    2. The other question is ofcourse why the name of the Agency which did the scan has still not been disclosed. I think at some stage later he has mentioned about some govt agency doing it. If true that makes it all the more curious .

    3. Is it not puerile to argue that HT did the best due diligence as compared to other newspapers. But did any other newspaper make the allegation which HT story did that the CD is not doctored?

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @praveen saxena
    Times of India reported a day after HT that the CD was not doctored. They apparenlty went by verbal opinion and had to retract after Bhushan came with his forensic reports. I am curious as to why are you curious that we got it examined by a government agency? Aren’t the Bhushans engaging with the government on being notified as members of the joint panel?
    Moreover, we didn’t have friends among forensic experts who would do the report for us and then act as our campaigners. That privilege only Prashant Bhushan has.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vinodji,

    you have still not answered the uqestion, ‘why you found it not necessary or not possible to confirm the veracity of the CD the contents of which are slanderous, mischievous and also baseless from Mulayam Singh, who is at once an ally of the congress and and is in an adverserial position to Amar Singh.

    Your other position too, that you will disclose the name of the agency at some ‘opportune moment’ sounds like hedging, besides looking over your shoulders.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Shenoy Saab

    Of course Mr Vinod would be replying in due course , but I am making a rough guess .A denial from Mulayam would have rendered the entire story untenable ab initio.

    As for the scan for HT being done by a govt agency and their submitting a written report on the subject , looks very strange as no govt agency unless it is commercial in nature ( a PSU engaging in business activities, then it shall do it for payment and raise invoice etc ) shall do something of this sort. on a private request . Yes a friendly govt deptt under directions from political highups may do so informally.

    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    I didn’t because I couldn’t. And please don’t go on and on about the identity of the lab. I have said that I will disclose when I deem fit.

  • Vijay Kumar

    ~~ :D :D ~~ THOSE WHO FORGET HISTORY ARE BOUND TO REPEAT IT ~~ :D :D ~~

    Remember 1988-89 ??

    Mr VP Singh had invoked Mr Q and Bofors and won the sympathy of India. Today Anna and the kickback fighters are loved by all.

    Then a fraud document was created from St Kitts. Today the COngress is using multiple frauds and multple Dalla-s to hoodwink Indians.

    Let us repeat that electoral buttock- kick on kickback taking Congress !! :D

    But make sure we dont get a weak weepie Singh type of ruler…

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  • Vijay Kumar

    @ Shenoy

    U R right about the S.H.I.T.T.Y part !

    As a corollary I propose that any newspaper which defames the fighters against the corrupt should be officially used as a TOILET PAPER ! :D

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  • http://rediffmail.com ram

    select any one

    1 HINDUSTAN TIMES
    congress Mouth piece

    2. PAKISTAN TIMES
    based in delhi

    3. CORRUPTION TIMES
    we are secular

    4. MODI BASHING
    most of the time we do that

    5. HINDUSTAN TIMES
    favour corruption

    now i know this guy vinod will not respond, but he will ask agency to find my ip adress

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Ram
    Ur name is your identity. You are Ram Lalla Virajmaan. Or else how would you turn so much falsehood about us into your crooked truth :) )

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    Jiten Reply:

    I lost hope with HT after reading this article…..Some people never see the larger issue…Disappointed that Mr Sharma published this news with so much bias.

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    ram Reply:

    ur right but one correction iam a ram bakth and proud of that, but it seems ur name is not ur identity, by the way u can take my gods name to compare it to anyone. If u do the same thing ur religious head u know the consequences.

    false hood ? go through the responses u get fr ur blog. Now i know u dismiss them saying communal

    as George ferndes once said : all you have to be is a secular to get away with any rape or crime

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @ram
    Responses on the blog don’t worry me. This blog is not the only vehicle I have for getting feedback. Even if you aren’t communal, you are certainly not secular the way I understand secularism. That’s why I mostly ignore you comments upon reading them.

    ISI Agent & SHAN's KUTTAR Reply:

    Ram

    What do you think, Vinod Sharma will do, once he has found out your IP address.

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    ram Reply:

    let him do wht ever he wants, compared to bushan jr. and sr. (was law minister), iam nothing

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  • http://rediffmail.com ram

    @ vinod sharma

    can u plz explain me wht is communal and secular

    wht i undestand is, killing 10,000 sikhs is secular (not even one from other camp died)

    torching the train full of ram bakts is secular

    for every action there is reaction : communal

    u reply or not does not matter, gud night have a nice day tomorrow

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    ISI Agent & SHAN's KUTTAR Reply:

    Ram

    I hope you do not mind if I reply.

    1. The fact that some elements in Congress at some point have indulged in Communal Violence, does not mean that the entire party is communal. The killing of Sikhs was a communal act and therefore absolutely wrong. However, when all is said and done the ideology of Congress is secular, even if some its activites are not.

    2. BJP on the other hand is and outright communal organisation. Nothing wrong with that, if what you like is to promote one community over all others for no reason other than tribal instincts.

    3. The truth about the Godhra fire may never be known, but for now we all have to accept the judgment of the court.

    Yes every action does have a reaction, but when you count actions, where do you start from and where do you end.

    An eye for an eye would leave the entire country blind.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Shan’s KUTTAr,

    you are trying to rewrite history on the lines of JNU historians. Congressmen have alsways acted with, “munh mein Ram, bagal mein choori”, chanting the mantra of secularism all the time and indulging in mass murders, as happened in Delhi and rest of India in 1947, in Delhi in 1984 in Bihar, in Assam and so many other places.

    “The truth about the Godhra fire may never be known”

    Actually the entire truth about Godhra was known from the hour the trainbogey was set on fire. It is only the secular media and Justice Banerjee who continue to remain blind to the reality.

    “An eye for an eye would leave the entire country blind.”

    If Hindus had gone for “an eye for an eye” type of revenge, the whole of the Muslim community of India would have been blind or one eyed.

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  • ashok

    The Bhushans appear to be too much of a good thing, perhaps more than this country deserves. And two members from the same family on the committee is a little rich even by our lax standards.

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    BVinodji,

    you said, “@BV Shenoy
    You are at times most irresponsible in what you say. In fact your self-righteous ways are no different from the Bhushans. I wrote on the CD like most other papers (but under my name unlike others). I got the CD examined before using the contents (unlike others) and even got the reaction of Shanti Bhushan on the forensic report. And despite all this you accuse me of conspiring against the anti-graft movement.
    You do this because you are used to swimming with the tide. You don’t have the guts to be counted in a minority of one. And mind you, you don’t, given your leanings, empathise with most issues the Bhushans espouse. My position on those issues is closer to theirs.”

    Vinodji,

    you are being rather unfair to me. If you peruse the comments here, I am the only one who has consistently agreed with your position as far as due diligence goes.

    You have said you have a problem about disclosing the identity of the lab which helped you in the due diligence. I have gone along with that position of yours too.

    My point was and still is: Why have you not exercised the same due diligence when the issue was taking up a CD for publication which had undeniable foot-prints of Amar Singh’s on it?

    All through the correspondence here, you have maintained studious silence on your position about Amar Singh, the dalaal, Amar Singh, the fixer, Amar Singh the purchaser of MPs, judges, journalists and witnesses. What about your journalistic ‘dharma’?

    Your action in siding with the likes of Amar Singh, Digvinash Singh and similar other despicable characters has wittingly or unwittingly (I am prepared to grant you the benefit of doubt that it was mostly unwittingly) put spokes in the otherwise fast turning wheel of the civil society on the issue of corruption.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    I reject all that Amar Singh represents in public life. That has always been my position— even when he was a key figure in the SP. The CD may have had his fingerprints. That is why we got it examined before we used it. It was done out of distrust for Amar and trust for the Bhushans (that is now a once upon a time story).

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  • Rajiv

    ————————————–
    Very evasive..
    ————————————–

    Among many things that Mr Sharma is evasive on this issue of propogating the fraudulent tapes is the issue of
    1. Does Mr Sharma have any opinion or idea about the source of the tape ??

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Rajiv
    The forensic report I have says the CD is not tampered with and the conversation is continuous on the whole and particularly in the portions where Shanti Bhushan and Mulayam are talking. I need not say more and I aren’t in the witness box.
    Will you like to change the subject and talk about the Bhushans’ land deals in NOIDA and Allahabad?

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    Jaago Jaago Reply:

    Oh yes! Vinod Sharma!

    Rajiv didn’t reply so let me.

    Here’s all the explanation http://fb.me/10w1EwgE4

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  • Jaago Jaago

    Dear Mr Vinod Sharma,

    I once defended you on Twitter about some some points you made in a TV debate. I found your arguments very rational and sensible.

    But what you have said and your actions regarding the CD controversy is…very unlike you or what I thought you were.

    Wasn’t it very obvious and suspicious about the way the CD appeared, its timing and distribution…all annonymously…that something very sinister was taking place!?

    And you missed the woods for the trees. We all want a strong Lokpal Bill. You could have waited till 30th June when the final draft of the bill is likely to be ready? You could have thoroughly scrutinized the draft for any anomalies. Then, if convinced, you could have waited for another couple of months for the bill to be presented and hopefully passed in the parliament.

    After this if you felt that the personal integrity of the drafters of the bill was such a big issue you could have gone ahead confronted them and maligned them from head to toe with the contents of the CD.

    But no you were too impatient. You wanted a scoop for you paper!

    Small man. Small thinking. Feel sorry for you.

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    maya Reply:

    jaago……

    u are just a slow learner…..read elmedia mafia since 70s and they r always pro congress and anti-bjp..

    god save india from slow learners like u…that is how congress and its media mafia ahve fooled india for 60 years….looting it and remaining in power by money power and votebank..the money was from the loot of the poor people….

    maybe after 10 yrs u will learn something else….by then india will be doomed if not alredy

    go d save india from peole like u….

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    Jaago Jaago Reply:

    A ’slow learner’ will learn at last…..but I doubt if even god can save India from cynics like you!

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  • yash

    Dear Vinod,

    I am in agreement with your opinion about Mr Narendra Modi.

    But dont you think the same is applicable to the Gandhi family in the hindsight of 1984 riots. Its just there is always a focus on Gujrat riots and not on 1984 riots. Dont you think the same has to be condemned in the same vein ?

    Thanks,
    Yash.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Yash,

    you are trying to prise open the lid of the pogrom against the Sikhs ordered by Rajiv Gandhi, which the secular media has kept tightly closed, steadfastly refusing to answer all questions about the Gandhis’ role in the pogrom. Which is why it keeps screaming, “Modi, Modi, rape, rape” all the time.

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  • maya

    yash says

    ‘I am in agreement with your opinion about Mr Narendra Modi. ‘

    congress is responsible for all communal riots sice 1947 including 1947 when half a mill were killed….

    now u agree after 55 years about only 1 riot in bjp stae…

    do u know how may riots took place in congress states..since 1947…with congress instigation
    even here train was done by congress councillor..

    mdia keeps u ignorant and u remain so…

    what about congress cms and gandhi nehru for 1947 and being responsible for all riots by their incomplete exchane of populations for votebankk

    do ignorants like u know kashmir..all hindus left…but muslims r remaining in gujarat…

    1984 was congress goons sikh riots….never happened before
    and elmedia never talks about that and godhra train and kashmir…

    and innocents like u ask sharma why???/

    god save india from people like u who wil not even know that modi did his best and his police
    killed 250 hindus..

    but to u hindu lives r not important because u a slave hindu with no self respect..just big ego
    no sense of identity…u will not even learn from history and minorities

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  • Vijay Kumar

    @ Vinod Sharma

    :) :) :) ARE YOU GOING TO BE SILENT NOW ????? :) :) :)

    Sir, a few postings above you had chided the bloggers of India saying that actual civil society can only be represneted by Harsh Mander and Aruna ROy and they had not endorsed Anna !! :D

    Well I find it funny that secularism, democracy and indian thought can only be certified by three chosen indviduals as if they are BIS (bureau of Indian standards ) !!

    But the funny part is that these individuals have today ENDORSED the LOK PAL movement and REJECTED the opponents trying to derail nailing the corrupt rulers !!!

    So Sharmaji, aapke chahte bhi aap se door ho gaye !! :)

    Ab kya jawab hai aapka??? OR IS SILENCE GOLDEN ??? :D :D

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Ankit
    Check your facts,the man in question is not NCM chair. Tell me what do you have to say about NOIDA deals of the Bhushans.

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    Ankit Reply:

    Yes, Hanspal is not the NCM chairman, yet you have not so much as squeaked against him here or on TV. Goes to show how you are protecting Hanspal and mass murderers of 1984.

    All your greedy self can do is to bring out suspicious stories in the media against the people who are fighting the government on corruption and then you get rewarded with a post with bangla , gaadi and driver. Do you send a copy of your HT stories and a CD of your appearances on TV to show the congress general secretary that you are you worthy of a worthy giveaway?

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar

    Go take a drive to NOIDA Mr Big Mouth. And this time its your turn to abuse Indian Express. What a joke :) ) Stop behaving like the Bhushans. You don’t have a monopoly over honesty. Okay?
    Got it Mr Satyawadi Harishchandra?

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  • Chinmoy

    Mr. Sharma,

    You are a very well known face and therefore can not hide behind scurrelous pretexts. I have been following you very closely since the time you started apprearing strategically in TV discusions to save the govt of the day from absolute embrassment. Be it your spirited defence of the CWG scam or the 2G probe, you have acted more as a loyalist than an INDEPENDENT minded journo.

    This is no personal opinion of your credibility, look at the web and you will know how you are perceived. In this case your so called forensic report is just laughable stuff. Right click and you get all the information that you have written in your column. I assume no lab worth his salt is going to support you in this slander campaign, albeit a govt. one might just do that.

    You must be doing all this for some purpose, just as you have mentioned for the car that you might require when your own driver is absent or some other which you donot like to say and we donot like to know, but journalists like you who are survivors and favoured are the bane of our society. People like you will try their level best to scuttele the anti-corruption movement because that directly affects your masters and ultimately you as you will not be able to get the so called small favours.

    Keep trying and keep failing, you are in the mouth of a revolution, I just wish you survive enough to see the fate of you r brethern.

    As by now the CD is proven to be doctored, please go ahead and at least say sorry to the civil society for this misdemeanour. Albeit take permission from the MASTERS.

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  • manish

    On day- 1 of the conterversy, all that Vinod Sharma said was that the C.D.. had been declared authentic by a government agency. PERIOD. Not a word was then said about its being even partially , merginally,even slghtly forged or spliced. That came later as a counter to Prashant producing a report from another forensic lab.
    So, neither Vinod Sharma nor H.T. has covered itself with glory by (1) dealing with stuff like this dodgy C.D.and (2) playing into the hands of a politician like Amar Singh and the shadowy group of people he may be fronting for.
    It is no business of a respectable paper to get into shenanigans like this one.
    I’m afraid that H.T., with irs name already besmirched by the vir Sanghvi- Radia link-up, has once again lowered its standards by this Vinod Sharma- Amar Singh marriage of convenience brokered by a scheming UPA. We thought HT lived by some principles.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    To all those who defend the Bhushans

    I have nothing personal against the Bhushans. I came into conflict with them on the veracity of the CD. I stand by my stories and the version I gave as I am in possession of scientifically done analyses on two different world class software. We at the HT have two reports on the CD.
    That apart, why is it that none of you is talking about the NOIDA land deals of the Bhushans that have been exposed by the Indian Express. Is it because that will make you eat your words against me personally and the HT.
    Such double standards can be variously described as cowardice, hypocricy, deceit, duplicity and dishonesty. Choose an appropriate description for yourselves dears. :) ) :) )

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    To all those who defend the CD

    Let there be no mistake that “Rank Rightists” like us are not fans of the father son duo after their joining hands with campaigners against Gujarat and Modi.. But that does not mean that we oppose every move of theirs.
    Coming to the specific issue of CD can it be denied that shanti Bhushan , Mulayam and even Amar Singh have denied the conversation.
    Is not the timing of the CD suspicious?
    Is not the modus operandi of its circulation suspicious?
    Shall not press for the name of the govt agency which did the scan and under which authority of law.
    Can we forget the St. Kitts forgery and the Fairfax/Seymour Hersh case?
    What is the irregularity in the allottment of land to the Bhushans in Greater Noida
    Will it be right if similar baseless allegations are made against HT for its land in Greater Noida or Noida
    Just wondering

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    Prabhat Reply:

    -

    There is a difference.
    Bhushans got the lands at throwaway prices in 2009.

    And Bhushan was to “fight” Mayawati in the court for NOIDA Park case.

    This was “softening” of the opposition lawyer.

    Ofcourse, this is not as sophisticated as Johari getting “promotion” and then change her stance in famous shoot-out case or even allotting lands to whole of judiciary before a major ruling was to come out in Gujrat.

    Like you got suspicious about timing, I too get paranoid about timing of key events.

    I guess if Bhshans did not act too grand in their fight against corruption, this CD would not have come out.

    After all, the CD was created in 2006. Not as a knee-jerk reaction to Anna’s movement.

    There is lot more to it.

    let’s wait for 3rd act to open. The play is on. To the full gallery. Enjoy the show, my friend !

    Prabhat Reply:

    -
    Vinodji,

    There is no point asking the readers / posters here why they are not talking about NOIDA land deals.

    This is simple inertia.

    They have been so vocal in promoting/defending Bhushans that they would be slightly at odd with their own self at this moment.

    A good strtegist, at this point, would not push them to wall, but allow them an “exit” root to quit gracefully.

    I must say, please allow our friends here to absorb many stories that are coming out. Slowly their own voice, arguments would start sounding hollow to them. And slowly they will be quiet on their own.

    Ask some specialist to check Shenoy’s postings and see for yourself how is tone is changing now with every new even unfolding !

    So I request you must not be feel cornered / defensive or feel bitter about the participants here.

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    maya Reply:

    manish what ht standards….

    ht is a congress propaganda errand boy for decades….

    u r realizing it now because u r trusting and the media mafia
    and congress have been exploiting that gullibility for decades
    by paying this mafia…

    sharma calls raghuvansh laloo man as honets…
    that is how he fights against corruption…

    i rest my case…

    mander,teesta’s husband javed etc r funded by jihadis and internationals
    to malign bjp and modi and hindus and media mafia like sharma
    share the funds plus congress loot of india…

    see how the shameless toad hid the ncm member sajjan kumar fixing deal
    and then he talks abou his passion for minorities…

    just like his passion against corruption

    the only way he can fight against corruption and serve india is by migrating to pakistan or
    disappearing in the congress sewer wher he parties 24-7 with his other mafia..

    one less antinational coorupt traitor posing as media to gullible fool peole like u

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  • Praveen Saxena

    Shenoy Saab

    The CD story has gone awry.
    The due diligence was not diligent enough.
    Mr Sharma has been taken for a ride by those who were not diligent enough.
    Mr Vinod Sharma it appears is not keeping good company.(Buri Sohbat mein hain).

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  • Prabhat

    1) I watched the video interview of Director, Truth Labs.

    The gentleman refused to say that the CD was “doctored”. He kept saying that few portions in the “source” CD and the “said CD” were same. He kept repeating this even after repeated questioning.

    Who defined which was the source CD ? Mr Bhushans?

    Mr Bhushan claimed that Truth Lab said that the CD was “doctored”.

    Now, that’s subtle manipulation of public psych.

    2) When one checks the CD is doctored or not, one would normally send the CD for the forensic test and the tests would be done for continuity of speech, natural phonetic variations and contextual use of words are tested to know whether the said CD is doctored or not.

    Mr Bhushan claims that Amar Singh’s tape copy was sent as the Lab asked for “voice sample”.

    Whose voice sample was actually needed?

    Mr bhushan’s or Amar Singh’s?

    Who was under scanner? Mr Bhushan or Amar Singh?

    Who mattered most at this moment ? Mr Bhushan or Mr Amar Singh?

    Mr Bhushan needed to prove that his speech was “doctored”. Did Mr Bhushan sent the audio tapes where his own conversation were recorded. No.

    Mr Bhushan sent Mr Amar Singh’s conversation with “others”.

    [ I am yet to figure out how did he manage to "dig" those tapes out so quickly if they were in Supreme Court's custody ! ]

    The lab was “instructed” ( in legal parlance “leading” ) to check if the voices in CD “B” were same as in CD “A” ! The lab surely proved that few segments were same/similar.

    The lab was right.

    But it did not prove “conclusively” that CD “B” was doctored.

    3) Let’s take a hypothetical situation :

    Amar Singh says that portions of CD “A” ( Amar Singh’s telephone recording ) looks like having been picked up from CD “B” and from other sources. So CD “A” is doctored, not CD “B”.

    Well, the debate would go on. Till it’s conclusively proved that Bhushans are innocent.

    But do we wait till then? Do we wait Supreme Court to declare Bhushans to be innocent and then proceed with Lok Pal Bill discussion?

    Then how can we catch the Monsson session ?

    How can we have persons with “taint” in anti-corruption committee? It will certainly dilute Anna’s position.

    So my suggestion is that let Bhushans step aside and Anna should bring in fresh talent as competent as Bhushans into the group.

    And I repeat again. Bhushans should step aside.

    On their own. For larger interest of the country. Else, we will be stuck up with this side show and miss the main show.

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  • (Dr.) B.N.Anand

    Dear Vinod Sharma ji

    Since the beginning of Jantar Mantar agitation by Anne Hazare and subsequently the government surprisingly accepting all his demands within four days was indeed a big surprise and mystery for a common man. Was it a nightmare of Tehirr square which made the govt. panicky or the results of the five state elections? It was for sure that this decision of the govt. will hardly be digestible with the political class as well as the corporate world together with some self styled activists, especially when father and son both were on the drafting committee of the Lokpal bill. This has come all true with the sudden appearance of the CD to malign the father and son to start a smear campaign in order to derail the whole process and to shift the focus.
    The question is who suddenly produced this CD and circulated it in the media? The media, especially the HT, lapped ferociously on the CD. How the CD was dug out and made public still remains the mystery. Who indeed circulated it and why so much importance has been given to make it subject of public discussion in an effort to unseat the Bhushans fom the drafting committee?
    Though you pretend the other way but surely under the camouflage of the CD getting examined by supersonic speed in some govt. forensic lab.( less tan 12 hours time), the HT has indeed shown unwittingly its intentions. Never before, the HT has acted as fast to uncover the facts and put it before the public. After all, the credibility of govt. labs. is well known to be believed.
    While Amar Singh is a well known power broker in the bazaar of politics, it is unlike the nature of the HT to be seen to be leading this smearing campaign in a smart way so as not to give any impression of being a partner with Amar Singh in this project.
    While Prashant Bhushan appeared very logical and divulged on the national Tv ( Times Now)all the information as to where he got CD forensically examined and the head of the lab., a Ph.D in spectrographic examination of the software database, fully defending the results of forensic examination on tv, the HT is yet to name the lab. where the CD was examined. Prashant Bhushan showed courage and resilience on Tv last night an seemed determined to fight it out. He has fought many such battles before. I am sure even if this controversy of CD settles down, many more cases are likely to crop up to malign both father and son.
    I am sure all this unnecessary tirade is doomed and the Bhushans will come out with flying colours.
    Regards
    BNA

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  • http://rediffmail.com ram

    Mr. Vinod sharma

    Slammed for being diligent ?

    but directly opposite to that is

    hastening, hurrying, pushing, rushing

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  • Vijay Kumar

    @ Vinod Sharma

    :D :D ~~ I TOOK A DRIVE IN NOIDA AND DISCOVERED THE HINDUSTAN TIMES OFFICE ~~ :D :D

    As instructed by you I took a drive in Noida and discovered that the Hindustan Times too had a huge office and priniting press there !! :D

    Now how can you say that the land allotment to HIndustan Times was genuine and to the Bhushans fraudulant ????????????? :D

    Maybe HT was alloted land cheaper than the BHushans !! Has to be checked out !!

    There is a smear campaign against the lokpal and said to say that the Express has joined the campaign. Even as its own partner CNN IBN too hnas a land allotment here!

    IS SILENCE GOLDEN NOW???? :D

    Waiting for your words of wisdom — if any !

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  • Vijay Kumar

    ~~~ :D :D ~~ WILL CHETAN BHAGAT BE THE NEXT ANNA HAZARE ???? ~~ :D :D ~~~

    Chetan Bhagat the rockstar of Indian writing has feted MOdi for being an honest and efficient Chief Minister.

    Let us all vote now.

    Will all the woves charge at him now????

    VOTE Y for Yes

    VOTE N for NO

    Winner gets an all paid trip to Satish Sharma’s Italian tiled house with a suitcase money ! :D

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Outraged congressmen will burn his books.
    (But, Bhagat will squeal in delight, because some more of his copies will be sold.)

    Stunned TV editors will shout him down even before he answers their questions.
    Newspapers will black him out.
    The government is already busy looking for any awards conferred on him even by mistake, so that they can be withdrawn.
    False cases will be foisted on him for land grab, fraud, misuse of government funds etc. etc.
    He will not be considered for even the lowly padmashri award for the next 25 years……….

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  • Vijay Kumar

    Correction. WOVES= Wolves and jackals !

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  • Sahana

    Vinod Sharma, you are very quick to hail trouble-makers as “civil society” and paragons of virtues. Ever questioned Javed Anand on the shady, criminal activities of his wife?

    Prime witness was ‘coerced’ by Teesta
    April 20, 2011 1:39:59 PM

    Navin Upadhyay | New Delhi

    The prime witness in the Best Bakery case was “manipulated” and “coerced” to give false evidence before the trial court in Mumbai. This startling disclosure has emerged from an affidavit sent to the Chief Justice of Bombay High Court on June 17, 2010 by Sheikh Yasmeen Banu, whose father-in-law Habibulla owned the ill-fated Best Bakery. Yasmeen’s husband Nafitulla was injured when rioters set Best Bakery ablaze. Nafitulla later died due to illness. In all, 14 persons were killed in the blaze.

    In her affidavit dated June 17, 2010, Yasmeen, whose eyewitness account of the carnage played a crucial role in the conviction of the alleged accused persons stated that her deposition before the trial court was made under duress and she regretted that the innocent persons have been convicted on the basis of her testimony. She has implicated social activist Teesta Setalvad for her “fabricated deposition.”

    Yasmeen stated that after the carnage she went to her parents’ home at Chhotaudepur along with her maternal uncle. After sometime, she went to Baroda along with her daughter and mother and started living in Best Bakery house after getting it repaired.

    That is when Yasmeen was approached by Setalvad’s trusted right-hand man Rais Khan. Incidentally, Khan has separately accused Setalvad of fabricating the affidavits of the riot witnesses.

    Yasmeen stated that one day, Rais Khan, who is associated with Teesta Setalvad, visited her along with local Muslim leaders and said that there was a danger to her (Yasmeen) life here and she must come to Mumbai where Best Bakery case was contested. “Rais Khan connected me to Teesta Setalvad from his cell phone. Teesta Setalvad also persuaded me to come to Mumbai along with him and promised me to help from every point of view,” Yasmeen said.

    Yasmeen said she and her mother were forced and threatened, even assured by Rais Khan that he and Teesta Setalvad will fulfill all her needs throughout her life.

    “After getting assurances from Muslim leaders, Rais Khan and Teesta Setalvad, I along with mother and my daughter left for Mumbai with Rais Khan by locking my house and leaving all the household articles there, which I brought from my widow mother’s house from Chhotaudepur.”

    In Mumbai, Yasmeen was kept at Ashok Guest House in Bhindi Bazaar for one month. Yasmeen said Rais Khan daily took her to Setalvad’s house at Nirant Bungalow, Juhu Tara Road, Santacruz (West), Mumbai, which is her office also. “Teesta Setalvad used to explain to me about the case there. From there she used to take me to the office of Public Prosecutor Manjula Rao and thereafter she used to drop me at the guest house,” she points out.

    She further added that during this period, she was paid by Teesta through her staff Dhyansingh and Pradip. Yasmeen was kept for 11 months in Room No. 102, at Mariam Apartment, Ismile Katre Road, Bhindi Bazaar.

    Indicating that all the witnesses were kept under Setalvad’s supervision, Yasmeen said when she was shifted there, the same day other witnesses of the Best Bakery case, namely Taufel, Rais, Shezad, Selon, Ashraf, Shahjahan, Zahira Sheikh and her grandmother also came to stay there.

    “Rais Khan and Teesta Setalvad kept strict observation on the flat in which we were residing, we were not able to go out and no one was allowed to meet us. Neither were we having mobile nor were we allowed to talk to anybody, even if we requested. We were not permitted to open the window of the room. Dhyansingh or sometimes Pradip, working in the office of Teesta Setalvad, used to stay for 24 hours there. They used to fulfill our requirements as well as keeping watch on us,” Yasmeen states and adds whosoever was called for deposition in the court used to leave the house and did not return.

    Yasmeen said the witnesses were kept in a Government guest house during the period of deposition. “They used to get mobile phone from Teesta’s men in which outgoing calls were barred. Teesta used to explain on mobile on what they have to depose,” she said.

    She revealed that Public Prosecutor Manjula Rao where Teesta Setalvad used to be present “everybody was tutored what to speak against whom in the court.”

    Claiming that the depositions, which she gave against the persons, on the advice of these people, were unknown to her, Yasmeen said Teesta, Manjula Rao and Rais Khan used to take the witnesses to show their (accused) photographs to her on computers to identify them.

    “She took my signatures on a few papers about which she (Yasmeen) had no knowledge,” Yasmeen said, adding that Rais Khan and Teesta Setalvad visited them till the trial continued and assured them that they will fulfill all commitments made to them after the completion of the deposition. Yasmeen was sent to Ahmedabad after the trial and was kept in a house for four months in Shaper Mill Compound.

    “I was removed from the house the very next day of the pronouncement of judgement. I came to know that in the name of Best Bakery Case and for arranging deposition of persons like us, Teesta has collected lakhs of rupees and nothing was given to us,” she said.

    With nowhere to go, Yasmeen returned to her uncle’s house. The Best Bakery was now out of her reach because her husband’s second wife lived there. After her maternal uncle refused to support her, some people took pity and contributed money to buy her a hut. Her misery did not end. She re-married, got pregnant and was then dumped by her husband. Yasmeen now lives with her mother and two children.

    Accusing Rais Khan and Teesta Setalvad of cheating her, Yasmeen said, “By giving false deposition in this case, I have not only lost my ancestral property Best Bakery, which was in my possession and where I started leaving and earning my livelihood, but also on the basis of false assurances, so many innocent persons got convicted. Because of this, I am feeling guilty and probably due to this reason I am leading poor and sorrowful life. I always repent why I did the wrong thing on the advice of a person like Teesta.”

    She added that since the judgement of the Best Bakery Case has been delivered on the basis of false testimonies, due to this reason her affidavit be treated as a petition, and the case be re-heard so that now no poor person can be bribed and misled by such people and no innocent person is wrongly punished and “the persons like Teesta Setalvad and Rais Khan be tried as per law, who by misleading and bribing poor, weak and unsupported persons like us, are managing false testimonies.”

    Yasmeen sent this affidavit by post in June’2010 not only to the Chief Justice of Bombay High Court, but to Chief Justice of India, Chairman NHRC and Director General of Police, Gujarat. But, despite passing of 10 months no action has been taken against Teesta Setalvad and Rais Khan.

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    Rajiv Reply:

    @Sahana,
    The crimes against innocents committed by politically motivated criminal journalists, some of whom now peddle tapes for people like Amar Singh, are too many to recount.

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    Sahana Reply:

    True. And news channels have to audacity to continue to invite this criminal, anti-national lady to their debates for her “expert” opinion, latest being the Godhra train carnage verdict. What credibility do her views have after it has been revealed that she has forged affidavits, tutored witnesses, unauthorizedly exhumed bodies and has been repeatedly chided by the highest courts?

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    Rajiv Reply:

    Most of the pro-congress media aiso also pro-corruption and pro-fraud.

    If you have any doubts, just see how hard Mr Vinod Sharma is working for the cause of dalals like A Singh etc.

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    The chickens are (slowly, but surely) coming home to roost.

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  • Rajiv

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    Attacking Bhusan’s and mud slinging won’t hide the thuggism of criminals like Amar Singh..
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    or the sheer cowardice of Mr Sharma, who has evaded answering many questions , I repeat one of them.

    What does Mr Sharma know about the identity of the person/s is behing the fabricated tape that he is peddling ??

    If he refuses to answer, I hope he is taken into custody and subjected to a narco-analysis to get to the people who fabricated this tape.

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    In delight, Vinodji does squeal
    and smile with unusual zeal
    accusing his readers of taking to their heel

    Look, he says, at Bhushans’ land deal
    how they conceal more than they reveal
    you may, he says beg, borrow or steal
    but, an under-hand land deal?
    No way, righteously he does feel.

    But, We may ask him, over a meal
    At that price, the land is a steal
    what, then Vinodji, is the big deal?

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    Shenoy!

    Looks like George Bush is your mentor !

    I remember George saying :

    1) Either you are with us, or with ‘em.

    2) I know they are b astards. But they are “our” B astards !

    After I went through couple of your posting, I realized how appropriate those Bush statements were !

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Prabhat,

    Actually George Bush is Manmohan Singh’s mentor. Remember the nuclear deal on which he staked his government’s fate?

    It is a different matter that MMS has forgotten his mentor and is now staking his personal career on befriending Pakistan.

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    Shenoy !

    You misconstrued the relationship between a mentor and mentoree !

    Bush and MMS were strategic partners in the global stage playing some geo-politics.

    But looking at your content of your postings on this blog, I thought you and Bush would be close to mentor-mentoree relationship.

    [ Hey! I did not mean anything bad, just saw you and Bush close in thinking process !]

  • shikha

    Mr. Sharma,

    You seem to be so glad to hear about the land deals!! Isn’t it ? Perfect timing. You ask the readers about the land deals of Bhushans? Please read my first post. Did you answer any question that was raised about you?? I was not merely refering to the CD. I can see how evasive you are.

    I have been following Hazare’s team for the past 4 months. And there was not a word from you. The peope who are in the committee are those who deafted the bill. You knew about them, some how waited on the sidelines hoping that the movement would never pick up. But alas, your hopes crashed!! I can see the ****** pleasure you derive from all those news about Bhushans popping up. People here are not supporters of Bhushans. They are coming in support of them largely because they know the govt is fearful of them. And even you are !!

    This is how you addressed your readers in your earlier post-
    “Such double standards can be variously described as cowardice, hypocricy, deceit, duplicity and dishonesty. Choose an appropriate description for yourselves dears. ) )

    Don’t even dare question my integrity. I and my family’s integrity is something that your favorite party leaders can never equal. I am sure there are many readers here are on the same side. Go set up an IT raid against my family !! That is the best you and your favorite party can do. Are rest of the ministers in the committe absolutely clean ?? What about Sibal, Moily and others? Why no report from you on them??

    My nation’s cause is bigger than anyone unlike yours!! First look into your own soul.

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    shikha Reply:

    I had used the word “S a d i s t” above

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    shikha Reply:

    It is deplorable that a journalist repeatedly questions the integrity of his readers but has not once questioned the same of the ruling party leadership (though they enjoy the powers).
    I request the readers to post this link on every blog or social networking site.

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  • Rajiv

    @Mr Sharma,

    How about the heading
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    “Slammed for being a fraud and a coward” ?
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    Who is the person that manufactured the tape ?

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Rajiv
    I will let your comment stay. You are after all an armchair commentator who basis his opinion on what he gets to know second hand. By your logic all newspapers — Indian Express, Times Of India and HT — are stooges in the hands of the government. And the Bhushans, well, they are above criticism and scrutiny. There cannot be an argument with somebody like you.

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  • http://rediffmail.com ram

    u think vinod will be able to sustain so much happiness at this age ? he must be ROFL

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  • http://- Rajeev

    I really don’t like Bhushans but this smear campaign against them is sickening, This entire episode is enough proof that there is Politicians-Babu-Media nexus to hide and cover up their corruption, at the same time defame their critics by digging dirt.
    Bhushans are taking two corrupt Tahkurs to court. They should also not spare the paid media. It is time corrupt media is fixed first because they are the enablers of corruption.

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  • Rajiv

    ———————————————————————
    Looks like the thieves have joined forces
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    Senior Congress leaders Digvijay Singh and Salman Khursheed shared the dais with Amar Singh at a public function here, triggering speculation of the former SP general secretary inching closure to the national party.

    While Digvijay termed Amar as his “brother, friend and an associate”, the Lokmanch chief said despite being political opponent he learnt a lot from the Congress leader.

    “Today, some people are duping public with false claims. Now, I and Dijvijay have taken out sword against them,” Amar said at a college inauguration function yesterday.

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  • Rajiv

    @Congress paid thugs
    If allottment of land to Bhushans was flawed or illegal, it would be in the interest of the nation that legal luminaries of Congress challenge it in the court of law. What prevents the Singhvis and Tiwaris and Sibals from initiating legal action ?

    Here is a relevent report
    http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?719453

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    Prabhat,

    Even if you really meant it to be some kind of a crude joke or a mean jibe, it is OK, because like George Bush, I too have a reasonably thick Teflon coating. You should ask your “leaders” now to scheme what next to bring out, now that the NOIDA land deal has fallen flat.

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    Prabhat Reply:

    Shenoy !

    I saw a definite pattern in your postings and pointed that out candidly. Neither it was a crude joke nor a mean jibe.

    NOIDA land deal has not fallen flat. It actually brought out what people meant by “managing” things.

    I invite you to try do a deal of 10,000 sq m prime,developed land in NOIDA without Mayawati’s knowledge.

    Mayawati definitely “softened” and “managed” opposition lawyer ( Mr Bhushan ) who was fighting the NOIDA statue case against Mayawati.

    Mr Bhushan pretends as if he does not know how much a prime 10000 sqm land cost in NOIDA ?

    Is Mr Bhushan a President awardee ?

    Did Mr Bhushan bring unparallel glory to UP?

    Why was he offered such a prime land at a throw-away price?

    The intention was to “soften” him, so that he can do “friendly” arguments in the court.

    And why did he accept the land at such throw-away prices ?

    Because he was “compromised” and “managed”.

    Please check the list of acts that are construed to be Corruption in CVC notification.

    Moreover, Bhushans are good at doing “COMBO” deal !

    They join the Lok Pal Bill “together” and also manage to get not one but 2 prime lands in NOIDA for themselves ! One for the “front-end” and the other one for “back-end” management !

    I must say deal must be very very lucrative.

    I am glad you have Teflon coating.

    I too am not a soft target like Mr Vinod Sharma or Sonia/Rahul Gandhi.

    The fact that Bhushan chose to pick up the land at throwaway price

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @Mr. Prabhat
    Would it not be better if you ask these questions to Mayawati? Why indeed, she chose to give land to Bhushans at throw away prices. After all, Bhushans were not occupying any important position in the government. It is she who has to explain.
    BNA

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Dr.Anand,

    Prabhat will not ask Mayawati this question or any question for that matter, because she is one of them. which was why hte CBI dogs were asked to lie low in her cases. The corupt politicians, bureaucrats, corporates and also media leaders are all one in the rarified world of corruption. They will protect one another at all costs.

    As you said in your other post, if Yeddy gives land under discretionery quota which is the permitted law in Karnataka, Yeddy is called corrupt. If Maya Memsaab does the same under her discretionery quota, she is innocent of any criminal wrong doing, but the recipient of the favour is a criminal for having received the favour.
    This is their Prabhat Pheri.

    Prabhat Reply:

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    Maywati did this to “soften” Bhushan so that he would go “friendly” while fighting against Mayawati in NOIDA Statue case.

    This is very common.

    But what surprised us that Bhushans were involved. The gentlemen were the epitome of probity and honesty and were leading the whole civil society against corruption.

    That is the issue.

    Had they been “consultant” to Anna Hazare and were charging professional fee the way they represented LET or Dawood in serial Bomb blast case, I would not have had any problem.

    On the other hand we all know, the way Mayawati works.

    So there is no point in questioning her.

    I still maintain that Bhushans must “step aside” and allow Anna to move forward.

    [ Bhushans can join back once they clear the position on Stamp Duty, Managing people through PIL as revealed in the CD and NOIDA land case.]

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Prabhat pheri!!!
    Shenoy sahab, you are greatest.

    Prabhat Reply:

    Shenoy !!!!!

    This is for you.

    I am quoting from an interview by ML Sharma who filed an PIL in Supreme Court.

    He is talking about Bhushans ! Now Bhushans have Dawood Ibrahim links !

    ***************************************************************************************
    Your PIL specifically targets Shanti and Prashant Bhushan. What are the charges you have leveled against them and why?

    Nobody knows their real characters. I specifically stated in the PIL that they had personally appeared for underworld don Dawood Ibrahim in the Mumbai bomb blast case. I agree that they can defend anybody as an advocate, but my question is, how did they get paid?

    I have asked in my PIL how this payment was made and if it is through hawala, then necessary provisions of the Indian Penal Code be invoked. Shanti Bushan also appeared for the Lashkar-e-Tayiba. How did the LeT pay him?

    Secondly, they are law breakers. They bought a property worth crores for just Rs 1 lakh..

    But they clarified saying that they had an agreement with the landowners in 1966 ?

    Yes, I was coming to that. He can fool the public, but he cannot fool people who know the law. According to the law, no contract can be enforced after three years.

    Three years is called the limitation. Both the agreements they have submitted in the court are dated in 1966. The suit was filed in Allahabad court in 2000. As per law, the judge himself should have quashed the suit because it is against the law.

    They either threatened or bribed the judge to be on their side to get a non-maintainable suit in the court. They fought over the suit for five to six years, after which the buyer and seller made a show of coming to a compromise. What happened then? Over a property worth Rs 20 crore, both parties had to pay stamp duty and income tax of only Rs 1 lakh. They cheated the state and country to the tune of several crores.

    *****************************************************************************************************

    And Shenoy, the latest is not from the congress party. Mr Sharma had filed an PIL against Pratibha Patil too.

    Taint is a Taint is a Taint !!!

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    I hope the judge would dismiss the PIL and put a hefty penalty of 51crore on this PIL Sharma.

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    Good wishful thinking.

    Amit J Reply:

    Dude, you are coming across as a nutcase. Let us see, a CM awards some land to a guy. And instead of questioning the CM you are blaming the guy i.e. how dare he apply for land! If CM is doing bribing isn’t she the one who is guilty? Or is there any actual proof that the guy asked for a bribe? Your problem is not with a CM who robs the state of thousands of crores in name of Parks and statues. But god forbid some guy gets some land cheap(and govt land is always cheaper than market price).
    The guy already said that the govt can happily take the land back. End of story. So why are you still barking about it? If he broke some law can you quote the specific IPC act and section? Use your brain please!

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    A just over heard in grapevine, A Raja is saying “take evrything back, and release me” !

    Amit J Reply:

    @Prabhat
    A.Raja has been caught with clear evidence of a crime. What is the exact evidence against Bhushan? That he accepted a land given by government? Under what section of IPC is that a crime as per you? Do enlighten us.

    Like I said, you are coming across as a nutcase.

  • james

    Though I am very critical of Hindustan Times and Vinod Sharma…..I must complement Vinod Sharma for being open to receive reponses from public and give back his views…This is in marked contrast with what happend on NDTV when Radia tapes issue came up. NDTV simply blocked any comments critical reference to Barkha Dutt. But here on this blog, I find a refreshing difference in this regard. This is despite the fact that 99.99% of commets on this blog are very critical to Hindustan Times and Vinod Sharma. I think it takes some doing. So, Mr. Vinod Sharma, for once, take a bow…

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    Rajeev Reply:

    I agree with you on this.

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    Mohan Ramchandani Reply:

    Yes you are rite James. Mr. Sharma deserves a credit for this .

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    Ram, Rajeev and Mohan
    Thanks guys for finding me good in some way :) ) You are my guests on this blog and I believe in Atithi Devo Bhava….Also, am a strong supporter of free debate which self-righteous people try and stifle when they are under a scanner.
    Bests

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    james Reply:

    Compliment hamne diya…aur credit aapne in auro de diya…dil tod diya hamara……

  • Rajiv

    The difference is, while what Mr Sharma writes ( sometimes meaningless and often in service of the very corupt and thugs in Congress party and SP ) gets published in the paper while what the readers write in response, is only in the online section. Anyway, thanks for that.

    Getting back to facts, Mr Sharma and other Congress thugs have started the campaign to have the Bhusans renmoved from the Lokpal panel by levelling allegations . However if you look at the charges , there is no substance to them, except insinuations and mud slinging.

    On the Noida land purchase, the Bhusans paid 3.5 crore and are subject to pay anathor 8 million or so every year as rent. There is no evidense that they paid less than the asked/advertized price by the government or any evidense of them having bribed anyone for it. That is not even being alleged !

    So as you can see, Mr Sharma , is indulging in lot of mud slinging without any actual charges. Its shameful but then if Mr Sharma had any shame he would not act as a peddler and chamchas to the very corrupt from the Congress to the Samajwadi party.

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    Bhushans paid 10% of 3.5 crores and balance was to be paid in 16 installments.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    So the story has moved on from the curious CD to the Noida Land purchase . It appears some are trying to wriggle out of it. What is their mortal fear in disclosing the name of the agency which certified its authencity Never knew that the stalwarts of or our Media have such feet of clay. A newspaper which I believe started publishing before India got its independence.

    Ok so the Noida Land deals ? Pray someone tell me what is the irregularity there ? Allotment Price is less than Market Price? Then arrest Urban Development Minister and LG Delhi being ChairmanDDA, as market price of DDA Flats is more the allotment Price. Was that a special allottment under Discretionary quota of CM ? There was a newspaper advt from Noida Authority inviting applications for that scheme . Anbodyy can visit the website of Noida Authoriy and view that advt. The scheme had opened on 15-09-2010
    All those who could afford could apply. Pray can we get a list of all the Allottees who got land under that Scheme. And will someone assure that none from the Congress or its collaborators has bought a farmhouse under that scheme.
    And if Mayawati has misused her powers why no question is addressed to her till far. Why no complaint against her. Because they dare not.
    “Rank Rightists” like us are contesting the allegations by the Congress Party and its cohorts because we view this as its attempt to derail the process for appointment of an impartial and effective Lokpal and we had been fearing this from the beginning..
    We also know this not the end of it.

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    I am sure a lot of people will come forward with evidence of corruption, if Mayawati starts claiming to be the champion of honesty, integrity and probity in public life and start representing the people of India against corruption.

    I am sure there are competent lawyers who can be hired to represent the civil society. In that case, even if there are cases of dishonesty or corruption against those lawyers, it would not impact the process. because those lawyers would be representing the civil society and protect civil society’s interest.

    But if somebody represents the civil society itself to lead the movement against corruption, then the said persons should have absolute personal integrity with no trace of past taint.

    If the whole civil society can not find one good lawyer with impeccable personal integrity then how do you expect political parties to do it?

    If Anna is not willing to make effort to find legal brain beyond Bhushans, how do you expect political parties to do it?

    We did not have problem with Bhushans.

    But now that many stories have come out, they should “step aside” on their own and allow Anna to take the movement forward.

    But looks like Bhushans have dug their heels. And Anna is choked.

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Prabhat,

    You are indulging in a lot of wishful thinking about Anna being choked, LeT vakalat of Bhushans doing them in; if not, stamp duty thing finishing them off; if not, then how about the (fake)CD doing the finishing act and if none of these works, then the Noida farm land deal, perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.

    More wishful thinking on congress party’s Amar chitra katha department scavenging some more of the same………

    The fact, as Justice hegde and Agnivesh made it absolutely clear to Barkha Dutt ( she was visibly upset with Agnivesh) is that the Bhushans are here to stay and that the civil society will travel with them the whole distance to bring the Jan Lokpal bill to fruition.

    But, good luck to you on the wishful thinking thing.

    Lage Rahiye, Prabhat Bhai.

    ram Reply:

    shenoy e prabhat bere yaru alla, avanu vinod sharma ne

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Ram,

    I burst out laughing at your “clarification”. It is utterly delightful and very very funny. Thanks.

    Prabhat Reply:

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    Interestingly, Justice Hegde said these matters were either 5 or 2 years old.

    Looks like, justice Hegde wants to put “limitation” or “time bar” on corruption charges. If the corruption is detected within time frame of 3 years, then challenge …else forget it.

    Yesterday i talked about “my B astard is better than their B astards”…and it is reflecting in various statements.

    [ If you and Ram need to exchange some joke in regional language that others do not understand, please share you email with Mr Ram. He would keep sending you jokes and you keep rolling on the floor. ]

    Amit J Reply:

    Nobody is stepping aside and nobody is choked. You and your ilk will have to come out with some actual proof instead of mere empty fake accusations to get anywhere.
    And you are completely stupid if you think you are dealing with some select persons. You are dealing with the entire urban middle class. If not these guys, someone else will become the avatar of their wrath. And it will be even worse for you since corrupt folks like you would have already used up our patience.

    Prabhat Reply:

    “…If not these guys, someone else will become the avatar of their wrath….”

    Thanks for seeing my point of view.
    Please help find some clean, comptetent legal brains in place of Bhushans so that Anna can move on instead of getting stuck.

    Amit J Reply:

    Let me check if Spiderman or Superman are available, since apparently you think some noble untainted superhero is required to frame the draft for the bill. A superhero will probably be having a bonus of having crime-fighting experience as well, right?
    And what is the criterion for the 5 other non-civil society members(i.e. the govt appointed politician members)? It is fine with you if they are not so clean? I am a tad curious about your hypocrisy :)

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Praveen Saxenaji,

    Take heart; first the fake CD exploded on the political scene, but despite the trickiest attempts by our friend Vinod Sharma, the “Amar Chitra Katha” section of the congress party, the Barkha Dutts and a whole lot of Prabhats, the scam couldn’t be sustained for more than three days.

    Then the Amar Chitra Katha section brought on, as their next weapon of mass destruction, the Noida deal, hoping for the best and also prepared for the best by finishing the Bhushans off. But, the deal looks like going the same way as the fake CD

    Yesterday, Barkha Dutt was visibly upset with Swami Agnivesh- and she showed it on her face and words- when he told her that there is no question about the Lokpal act being drafted without the Bhushans being on the committee and put a counter question to her as to what she would do if as in the Radia tapes she was to be accused of corruption.

    Justice Hegde too made it very clear, in the same programme that the civil society will finish the job on hand with the active involvement of the Bhushans.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Yes Shenoy Saab
    This CD thing shall also run deep and would not be so shallow..
    Do u remember the St Kitts forgery. How the Indian Consul general at New York under directions of Indian External Affairs Minister had authenticated the St Kitts Forged papers. How the AP Nanday the ED official at that time.had gone to US and recorded tand participated in that Conspiracy. Similar was the Seymour Hersh and Fairfax hoaxes.

    james Reply:

    yes rajiv..i have noticed this with toi also….

    very conspiratorially clever indeed….they want the online business from the anti congress educated internet hindu trolls but want to keep
    the mainstream population in the dark by depriving them of facts and information that a transparent discussion brings online…because of the hits..

    and to think shikha complimented this congressi for posting our comments….

    its just the money and traffic calculation ..hits mean money…

    otherwise like their dynasty these goons would censor us and keep us illiterate and uninformed like they did for 5o yrs in the pre internet age….

    education and information is an enemy of the congress….and they have intentionally kep indians ignorant for 6o yrs with help of agents like sharma

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    shikha Reply:

    You have a point. So how about this? Let us make a yahoo group and ask all the regular readers join the group. We can do most of the discussions there .. That would reduce some hits :-)

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    Hindustan Times and Vinod Sharma are good punching bags. So people would love to visit this site and take out their frustration. The pleasure they get out of here will not be same in your Yahoo group.

    Abusing has become the national pastime. People love to abuse and they want to be seen abusing. Discussing in a Yahoo Group is like discussing inside a close room. The pleasure of PDA ( Public Display of Abuses ) is much more here.

    Moreover, somebody got to checkmate Vinod Sharma. Can he have the free run ?

    ram Reply:

    no shika, we shud do disscussions here only

    but everybdy shud avoid this traitor sharma, let us give him a mental torchure

    let shenoy, u or vijay prised over

    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    Hello James
    You have a very valid point and I agree with you. Indeed I also could not crack this strategy of the media houses to be liberal to alow the anti-c0ngress sentiments of literate English speaking middle class and upper middle class of the society to earn revenue from online business.
    I wonder why it did not strike me!!!
    BNA

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Rajiv
    Me thug? Thanks for being so civil Mr Defender of Civil Society. Also any comments on the CFSL report on the CD. Now don’t say that you don’t trust CFSL: — an institution of the State. Next time a fellow you are in love with commists murder, you’d demand that he be probed by Shanti Bhushan and Prashant. I have nothing against the duo personally. But I think they have to be accountable and tansparent. If your conscience tells u that huge plots for two members of the same family is fine, I have nothing to say.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    ~~ :D ~~ CONGRATULATIONS VINODJI…. YOU HAVE WON ~~ :D ~~

    Cmon Vinodji,

    We all know what your and the Congress game was. To somehow shift the debate from loot in 3G and loot by Congressis to the Opposition by saying ” hamaam mein sab nange hain… hum sab chor hai…” :D

    Well by getting out **** from the Bhushan’s background you have shifted the debate.

    But who has won??

    Not the child in the slum who goes to bed with an empty stomach because Mr Q and Satish made crores which could have used to feed the poor….

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @ Vinod Sharma ji

    Sir
    You should be asking this question to Ms Mayawati. Is n’t it a travesty of justice that when Yeddy uses his discretionary power, he is a guilty and the recipient is not questioned. But the reverse is not true with Mayawati. Every one is after Bhushans. Why all of a sudden such a material ( bogus or real) has emerged and no one talked about this CD and the land deal before until Bhushans were on the drafting panel. The same Bhushans were always referred in glowing terms and hosted on tv shows by the media as they were and are always champions of probity. The Bhushans have surely hurt the people in the corridors of power and money.
    I think that is the one track agenda of the media and the corporate world. The corporate world have already burnt their fingers and now both the media and politicians have been so much scared that they have lost the sense as to who is guilty and to whom the question should be posed.
    Regards
    BNA

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    J.R.KRISHIN Reply:

    DEAR Mr VINOD SHARMA, I HAVE BEEN READING YOUR VIEWS *** NEWS IN HT & ALSO LISTENING TO DISCUSSIONS ON MANY CHANNELS. YOU KNOW & EVERYBODY ELSE ALSO KNOW THAT YOU ARE A CONGRESS SYMPATHISER IF NOT A CONGRESS MEMBER & FOR THAT MATTER MOST, I REPEAT MOST OF STAFF & REGULAR CONTRIBUTORS TO HT. NO USE DENYING.IT WILL NOT WASH. SO YOU HAVE ALREADY WITH A BIG HANDICAP,WHENEVER YOU PARTICIPATE IN A DISCUUSSION.ONE MORE OBSERVATION…YOUR PERPETUAL SMILE IS ALL FICTITIOUS & ATTEMPTS AT HIDING YOUR TRUE FACIAL RESPONSES,WHICH FAIL MISERABLY WHEN YOU SPEAK/RESPOND. YOU ARE AN INTELLIGENT,WELL READ PERSON,WHY NOT TRY TO BE INTELLECTUALLY IMPARTIAL FOR ONCE. ARE YOU ANGLING FOR RAJYASABHA SEAT, LIKR RAJIV.

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  • (Dr.) B.N.Anand

    It seems that the ghost of Bhushan family is haunting not only the corporate world and the politicians but the media also. It is certain that at least corporate world is not going to forgive Prashant Bhushan as it was because of his activism in 2G cases, that five top MDs and CEOs of the corporate world are in Tihar jail. That is indeed unprecedented..
    The media indeed presents amusing logic to befool the public. On one hand, it is after the blood of Yedi for making some land allotment from discretionary quota with no questions asked to the recipient. On the other hand, no one questions Mayawati for the allotment of land to Bhushas and the recipients are o being targeted.
    Indeed, double standards of the media in running the smear campaigns.
    BNA

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    Prabhat Reply:

    How short the public memory can be !!!!

    I thought it was Subramanyam Swamy who did everything to bring 2G case out.

    Please give Swamy some credit.

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @Prabhat

    Sir
    Surely, Dr. Subramanium Swamy deserves as much credit as Mr. Bhushan. While Dr.. Swamy had moved the PIL petition, it was Prashant Bhushan ( that is what I understand) who fought it in the apex court. Even otherwise, I hold Dr. Swamy in high regards. Whatever he speaks, at least makes sense, and is always logical. That is unlike Mr. Amar Singh who only believes in theatrical acts and highly unreliable person as the power brokers are always. He has now openly accepted that he purchased BSP legislators for Mulayam Singh. I am sure when time comes, he will also confess that he was instrumental in arranging MPs to UPA govt. on the nuclear bill vote in the parliament. You are never comfortable with such a person both as a friend and a foe.
    So, my friend, it is no use defending any politician, media person or any corporate house. They are all looting the country. Only we as common men see them getting richer every day and that too at our cost.
    Regards
    BNA

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    We surely have some issues here !

    Shenoy compares Bhushans with Amar Singh, now you compare Swamy with Amar Singh !!

    Amar Singh thrives on reflected glories. He is just playing a cameo.

    We can leave him behind and move on.

    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @ Prabhat
    No sir, I shall never compare Amar singh with Dr. Swamy. May be I gave you a wrong impression. Both the personalities are incomparable. One belongs(Dr. Swamy) to intellectual class, where as Mr. Amar Singh is just like a street player who brokers political deals in the corridors of power. He surfaces when his services are needed by the Congress party and for some unknown reasons finds prime place on tv interviews and is able to grab the media attention. Of course, it is all stage managed by the big press magnates.

  • Vijay Kumar

    ~~ :D :D ~~ :D :D ~~ HOW SHALLOW IS THE MEDIA !!! ~~ :D :D ~~ :D :D ~~

    Amar Singh is the guy who made the maximum money out of land allotments in Noida, Greater Noida and rest of UP. He had formed a company along with the Flex Chairman to route all kickbacks of the discretionary quota and money taken before interviews for allotment of industrial and institutional plots.

    Even when a public draw was held in 2004, the temptation of making money was so huge that Dalla-s were openly soliciting money for getting you a plot thru the draw !! And when it was found out that choice plots were distributed to the elite politicos, judges, (including the infamous Justice Sabharwal, the demolisher of Delhi) bureaucrats etc, the Supreme Court had to step in and cancel the draw!!…

    But our beloved Vinod Sharma and the rest of the media will NEVER NEVER NEVER REVEAL THIS SIDE OF AMAR SINGH BHAIYA>>> :D

    Instead teh world’s top dalal will be presented as a protector of seculairsm, honesty, Congress etc etc…

    Wah :D WAH :D WAH Wah

    Wah re Congress. Mahatma Gandhi ki party aaj DALAL SALAAM KEH rahi hai !!! :D :D :D

    HA HA HA HA

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    What is there to reveal about Amar Singh ?

    Everybody knows about him

    Revealing about Bhushans’ unknown traits is lot more exciting and challenging !

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Prabhat

    When everyone in the COngress knows the truth about Amar bhaiya, why are they singing “dalal salaam ???? :D

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    Remember the cold stare Amar got when he had crashed into Congress’s party ?

    Guy’s like Amar Singh have very temporary utilities. He does things to stay relevant in politics.

    Let’s focus on to the Bill Drafting event.

    At this moment if Bhushans step aside, then Anna can move forward. Time is critical. If we need to catch monsoon session, then one has to avoid controversies. As such there are issues. Why add more ?

  • Vijay Kumar

    ~~ :D :D ~~ :D ~Wah re Congress. Mahatma Gandhi ki party aaj DALAL SALAAM KEH rahi hai !!!

    @ Vinodji, Praveen, Pankaj, rajeev and our poet friend Shenoy Sahab.

    I am composing a new anthem for those Congressis, Digvinash who are saying DALAL SALAAM !!

    Here it goes

    Saare jahan se achcha
    Yeh Dalal hamaara

    HUm shukarguzar hai iske…
    Yeh Gul hai hamara

    Dalal ha hum !! Dalal hai hum
    Yeh ratan hai hamaara !!!

    Enjoy and Laugh at the truth !! :D :D :D

    Ha !!! HA HA AHA !!! :D :D

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Vijay that was great. U are catching up with Shenoy Saab.

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @ Vijay Kumar

    Sir
    That is real treat. Both you and Shenoy Saheb are the star bloggers on this site. A word for word and an eye for an eye!
    BNA

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    :) @ Dr Anand !

    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar
    Kya tum ho Bhushan key Vibhushan
    Warna tum kyo jhadu dey raheu ho
    Jab woh phela rahe hai pradooshan
    Kya sirf woh hain suthrey
    baaki sab jaib kutrey
    Ajeeb tark hai yeh
    gobar par vark hai yeh
    Dekho Zara dhyan sey
    Warna jaao gey kaam sey

    Kaisa laga,zara jawaab dena :) ) :) ) :) )

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    splendid and timely.

    aap ko laal salaam!!!!!

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  • Vijay Kumar

    @ Vinod Sharma

    Ik Din mit jaayega
    Maati ke mol..

    Jag mein reh jayenge
    Pyaare tere blog

    Iss liye

    Kalam mein jab josh aaya
    Dalaalon ka kar diya safaya

    :)

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar
    Amar Singh ki taran filmi ganey bahut gatey ho yaar ….:)) :) )

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vinodji,

    As Vijay Kumar said, you have won this battle of wits, with timely master strokes by that master among fixers, king of dalaals, the one and only Amar Singh with his chitra kathas.

    But, mind my words, Vinodji, the war is being fought out there,
    with millions of foot soldiers, who have fire in their bellies that cannot be extinguished by fixers and dalaals, not by faking CDs and getting (as you did) convenient “certificates” of authenticity.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    You are not the high priest of honesty. When you raise a finger at others you have four pointing to your own self.

    Rajeev Reply:

    “When you raise a finger at others you have four pointing to your own self.”…

    Pretty stale, O friend of Dalal Amar SIngh..

    Rajeev Reply:

    Vinod,
    Zyada chahako mat…CFSL lab just like CBI is a tool in the hands of Congress. Their report can not be relied on.
    Your congress party has destroyed neutrality of all the institutions in India. Even Media works for congress (evident from the way you and some of journos behaviour in last 2 weeks).
    Bhushans should come out clean and if they come out clean they should at least destroy elements like you who are like termites destroying this nation.

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  • http://rediffmail.com ram

    Karnataka Lokayukta Santosh Hegde today said he was reconsidering his decision to be on the joint drafting committee on Lokpal Bill.

    this congi goons with the help of deshdrohi’s in media will never allow the drafting

    its time we shud take to streets

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Ram
    Very good idea. I mean taking to the streets. May be a bit punishing but will demonstrate your commitment to the cause

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vinodji,

    aaj aap khush honge
    man hi man me gaate honge
    hum ho gaye kaamyaab
    hum ho gaye kaamyaab

    Lekin, woh kaamyaabi kis kaam ki
    jis me sharam jyada, imaan kum ho,
    jo dalaalon ki kutantr se payi gayi ho,
    jo jhoot ke sahare se hasil ki gayi ho?

    Dhikkar hai aisi kaamyaabi par
    laalat hai aise kaamyaabon par
    aap ki kaamyaabi aap ko mubarak
    lekin mat bano Egypt ke Mubarak

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    Very poetic !

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    Fantastic !

    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    Aapki kavita
    Hamesha kahti hai
    Kaun hara? Kaun jeeta?
    Par jeevan hamesha haar aur jeet nahin
    Kabhi aapke jhoot mein
    Kabhi mere jhoot mein
    Chupha hota hai sach kahin
    Chodo gareeb logon par faisle dena
    300 crore rupalli walon ko sikhao jeena

    Rajeev Reply:

    Hegde is flip-flopper…He is in for a different reason. He has his own motives.

    Only Hazare and Kejriwal are dedicated to the cause and other than them all are in for different reasons.

    The most funny part is that Congress is alleging that this movement had backing of RSS but if look at all the activists, all of them are vehemently opposed to BJP and very sympathetic to Congresss or Maoist elements in Congress. To me it is looking like Tamasha played by congress both from inside and outside to make BJP irrelevant on corruption issue. BJP has played in the hands of Congress and this Congress inspired tamasha.

    BJP as a political party should fight this out politically. It is time Digvijay is again cane-charged in Bhopal. They should make sure that Digvijay and Amar get royal treatment next time they are in MP. Dig so much dirt on these son of whores that they will keep their mouth shut fo next 5 years. It is only way to tackle fascist tendencies of congress and its paid media.

    With this episode, Vinod Sharma has firmly secured his position in Congress camp. Now Vinod Sharma can not be a called journalist by any stretch of imagination. He has effectively become a tool in the hands of Amar Singh of ‘Cash for vote scam’ fame and Digvijay SIngh of ‘Pro-LeT Pro-Maoist faction of Congress’ fame.

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    ram Reply:

    rajeev i agree with u except hegde, he is little bit emotional but not flip-flopper

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Let me rephrase my opinion of Hegde. He seems to be less committed to this movement compared to others and keeps rethinking his stand. He seems to be more on the side of govt. than civil society.

    Prabhat Reply:

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    I would like to quote an incident here.

    Anil Ambani was fighting Mukesh for a long time on the gas dispute. They fought in Supreme Court. The fight was bitter.

    When Mukesh won the case, he did not celebrate or boasted. He just went home quietly.

    A regular guy ( even Anil Ambani ) would celebrated this win with gusto!

    But Mukesh showed his understanding and leadership skill. He immediately cancelled non-competition agreement and infact offer to use RCOM’s telecom tower which would help RCOM financially.

    This led to a better and harmoneous ending to that ugly fight.

    It’s not necessary to boast one’s win all the time. Sometimes it backfires !

    One needs to understand the trade-off.

    Let’s look at this Lokpal movement.

    Anna got great support from people. Sonia gave a supportive statement. The Govt. came around to the negotiation table. It was a great victory.

    But instead of capitalising on this victory and moving on, Anna and team thought of “celebrating” this victory. And to savour this great moment, Anna and team gave political statements, ridiculed political class et al

    This is where the vision and maturity of a great leader failed Anna.

    Social activists gave loaded political statements.

    If you do that then you should be ready for political backlash ! Life is not one-way traffic !

    I remember another incident.

    When Amitabh Bachhan was fighting election, somebody from Assam confronted him. The fan said “Sir, we all love you as an actor. But if you choose a particular political party, then we have to fight you. And we will fight you bitterly. We prefer you stay as our loved actor, not a politician.”

    Anna and team made that mistake. They poached into the political arena.

    Anna and team should have stayed, acted as Social Reformists.

    Words make or break.

    We do not use words judiciously.

    Had Anna and team been magnanimous with there statements after that great victory, I am sure these chaos would not have happened.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Needless to say..Mukesh belongs to congress camp and fool Anil Ambani is still with looser Amar Singh.

  • http://- Rajeev

    Frankly speaking, I am kind of both happy and sad that Bhushans are in trouble. I am happy because they are known terror sympathisers and should not be in this group. I do not buy AMar-Digvijay-Vinod’s allegations against them. The CFSL lab just like CBI works under the govt. and can give false report on govt. directives. The congress has destroyed all the institutions in India so I have no trust in any govt. lab etc.
    This civil group should take services of Bhushans from outside and at the same time step up their attack on Sonia-Rahul and their media. These Digvijay and Amar Singh are just minions. Once Sonia is on backfoot, all her pet dogs too will be on backfoot. Attack the Queen and Prince and everything will fall in place.

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    In elections, BJP took the same strategy. Attack and kill the Queen bee.

    From Tigodias to mahajans all had free shots at Sonia. Calling her names.

    Sonia had to give just a left hook.

    She called Vajpayee a “liar” [ I would not like to discuss the reason here on this forum now ] and Vajpayee started sulking.

    Then whole BJP smear campaign fell flat. Everybody went silent.

    So when you talk about a particular strategy, check if your flanks are open !

    At this moment, your flanks are badly exposed. So refrain from this strategy.

    Focus on how to move forward.

    Do not “pause” to fight non-actors.

    Else, you will exhaust your energy.

    Stay on the track. Get the bill approved.

    There will be another day to take pot-shot at Sonia !

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Everyone has his day…Sonia had it that time now she is on the defensive. She is already exposed about the sham sacrifice she did. She held power behind the curtain and totally destroyed Indian institution. Her son has become butt of jokes for his shallow understanding of the issues.

    You corrupt congresswallah need a Gandhi to survive but noose around her is tightening…You can probably start Sonia Chalisa to ward off evil eyes. She crawled in front of Anna Hazare..She will soon crawl before opposition…Just wait for assembly election results.

    By the way your mataji asked Keralites to vote for LDF..So much for her political acumen,
    Has she ever given a live interview? She will soil her dhoti the day she faces an independent media..Get ready with diapers..may be your paa’s pagdi to wipe her arse.

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    I reserve discussion on Sonia for some other day.

    Today, I rather focus on Bhushans and Lokpal Bill.

    But I promise I will not let you down. I will reply to all your postings on Sonia or Digvijay Singh or anybodyelse on this forum when appropriate time comes and promise a lively engagement.

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Rajeev,

    “Vajapayeeji ki dimagi haalat theek nahin hai” This, according to Prabhat/Vinod, is Sonia Gandhi’s (Italian) way of calling Vajapayee a liar. And in the whole world, only Vinodji saw Vajapayee “sulking”.

    Clown Prince declares “Left front is the epitome of corruption” His mother declares, “Vote for the Left Front”. Freudian sleep, perhaps or misplaced Freaudian exuberance?

    But ask any congress slave and he will swear that Sonia Gandhi is the best orator in the whole of Europe and also part of Asia.

    Rajeev Reply:

    Pabhat,
    STFU…Go and reply to MP HC on digvijay.
    Also reply on Sonia’s claim of her education from cambridge.
    You congressmen are born corrupt and liars.

  • Rajiv

    ————————————————————————————
    Bunch of baseless insinuations ( lies ? ) from Mr sharma….
    ————————————————————————————-

    From what I gather as facts from the media

    The Noid land purchase was as per norms advertized by the Govt of UP.
    The land parcels were priced about 3.5Crore and they have a additional annual fee of about 9 lakhs or so too. Many people applied. Many people got the land parcels along with Bhusans, who were fighting the Mayawati Govt on charges of corruption and nepotism and had fild PIL against the Maywati Govt.

    So when the Bhusans applied for a land parcel for parcels that were advertised by Mayawati govt, the Maywati government most likely did not want any trouble and additional lawsuits
    So yes you may accuse Bhusans of someone whom people like Mayawati dont want to mess with.

    However Mr Sharma and other Congress corrupt thugs have taken this situation and are having a field day making every wild allegations and insinuations.

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  • Prabhat

    @ All

    Are we reaching any common ground?

    Or, we will keep stretching this discussion till Mr Vinod Sharma comes up with another blog?

    It would be nice if few regulars here reach some common ground or near-consensus.

    I think these scandals about Bhushans have surely tainted the credibility of the drafting panel.

    Mr Kejriwal has started refusing taking any questions on Bhushans, after his initial defence. Now he says ” ask Prashant. I have no comment.”

    And somebody just pointed out that Justice Hegde is reconsidering his decision about being on the panel.

    I genuinely think Mr Kejriwal should take the lead. He has enough credential.

    Bhushans should step aside on their own and invite Ram Jethamalini to provide the ” legal consulation and backup” on behalf of the civil society.

    Since Mr Jethamalini will represent the civil society in his professional capacity, any taint in his personal life will not impact the credibility of the panel.

    We must move on if we have to catch the monsoon session.

    Any comment?

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, Ram, Dr.Anand, Praveen Saxena, Rajiv, Rajeev,

    Eureka! Euraka!!

    I agree with Ram that this Prabhat guy is NONE OTHER THAN OUR DEAR FRIEND VINODJI!!!!!!!!

    CHECK IT OUT, FRIENDS!

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    ram Reply:

    and worst thing is he is asking us share the personel mail id, such that he can send hate mails using his CSFL contacts

    so that we spend the whole day replying to that mails

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    Pl stop this shenoy. It is too much. I don’t do such things. Shall request the real man to stand up to clear the air.

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    ram Reply:

    sorry vinod if i had hurt u, Be sportive, gudnight

    Prabhat Reply:

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    Shenoy !

    Now, it’s my time to laugh !

    Give some respect to the man’s intelligence.

    I am nowhere near Mr Sharma.

    Why are you so impulsive and quick-judgemental ?

    Do you see any similarity in my writing and Vinodji’s writing?

    I am not a journalist. I am just an independent thinker like many on this forum. I share what I think is appropriate.

    Yes, only thing I hate when people start abusing while participating in the forum. My postings might have looked as if I am defending Mr Sharma. But those were my independent thoughts.

    I am not Mr Vinod Sharma.

    My name is Prabhat MOHANTY.

    [ Note : I did not ask Ram to share his email id with me. I asked Shenoy to share his email id with Ram. So that Ram could send jokes in vernacular language to Shenoy and Shenoy can roll on the floor laughing. I said that because Ram posted something in regional language which I did not understand but Shenoy enjoyed thoroughly.]

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    ram Reply:

    boss stop this nonsense, let the bill happen then prosecute them using the same law if found even an iota of doubt

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  • Vijay Kumar

    IF PRABHAT IS VINOD SHARMA>…… !! :D

    Does it not prove that deep inside he too knows that Congress is harming India by destroying this public movement. THat he too wnts an end to corruption….

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    Prabhat Reply:

    @vijay

    I have already clarified.

    PRABHAT IS “NOT” VINOD SHARMA.

    Let’s not get entangled with another side-show .

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    Rajeev Reply:

    How does it matter whether Prabhat is Vinod Sharma or not?
    Vinod Sharma is in a class of his own..now he is part of Diggi-Amar-Vinod Trinity…Finally he has become what he always wanted to be…Power borker and dalal just like Amar Singh younger brother of Digvijay Singh who is chappal bearer of Clown Prince.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Rajeev,

    Ever since his own younger brother walked over to the BJP side, this Digvinash Singh is treating Amar Singh as his younger brother.

    Rajeev Reply:

    MP HC has replied Digvijay aptly..Ab Kutta munh nahi kholega.

  • http://- Rajeev

    I am surprised to see Vinod Mehta has clear idea about this Bhushans episode. He knows what congress is upto.
    http://www.timesnow.tv/Debate-First-CD-now-land—2/videoshow/4370993.cms

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  • Rajiv

    @Rajeev
    Why don’y you summarize what Vinod Mehta ( of Outlook ? ) has to say.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    He is basically saying that all these CDs and land deals were in political domain but has been brought out in public to make CIVIL side of drafting committee weak and incompetent so that Jan Lok Pal bill lacking any teeth is passed, not the one that will put politicians in trouble.
    He is asking Bhushans to continue till there is sufficient evidence to say that Bhushan did UNETHICAL things (not corrupt). The congress party is trying to gain high moral ground against civil society members so that it can dictate terms at the time of drafting.

    He is asking civil society to keep focus on drafting bill and ignore antics of discredited Congress leaders such as Diggi, Politcal Dalal like Amar Singh and propagandists like Vinod Sharma.

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    Did Vinod Mehta take Vinod Sharma’s name on television?

    Or, as usual, you thrive on twisting and distortion ?

    The latest example :

    1)

    The Director of Truth Lab : Some portions of the “source CD” are same as the “said CD”.

    Bhushans : The said CD is doctored.

    2)

    Sonia : “I do not believe nor encourage smear campaign”

    Annaji : Sonia said she does not support persons who are making statements against me.

    Rajeev, now you SPLICE IN your little sweet and cute lie about Vinod Mehta talking about Vinod Sharma on television !

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Prabhat,
    Lying is exclusive domain of congressis. You are doing a splendid job.

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    Prabhat Reply:

    Both of us have posted our opinions here. People can judge who’s lying…

    Rajeev Reply:

    See the comments of people…Everyone has judged…you stand exposed Naked,

    What do you do at HT? Do you an intern working for Vinod Sharma?

  • Rajiv

    ————————————————————————————————–
    Why does Congress want the Bhusans to quit the Lokpal panel ?
    —————————————————————————————————

    Cong hints it wants Bhushan to go but won’t mouth it ( from TOI )

    ( @Congress : Don’t worry, your agent in the media have been mouthing it pretty well )

    In a veiled message to Shanti Bhushan to quit the Joint Committee on Lokpal Bill, Congress today (April 21) said that people measuring society according to certain moral yardsticks should measure up to them. “If you do attempt to measure society and individuals by certain moral yardsticks, then obviously there is a need to very seriously introspect whether you measure up to that yardsticks,” party spokesperson Manish Tewari told reporters.

    Now the question is , why does Congress+AmerSingh want Bhusans to quit the Lokpal Panel ?

    Is it that the Bhusans know too much about the current bunch of gutter corrupts in Congress and SP and may help craft a bill that may not leave wiggle room for them or is it because Amar Singh and Congress are champions of probity in public life ?

    Mr Vinod Sharma , the Congress/Amar Singh mouth piece can perhaps shed some light.

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  • mohan

    Shenoy while walking out of his bath tub in kakhi shorts suddenly started yelling eureka ..and see the glee and merriment in the Modi camp.
    Are these internet hindus so stupid and derailed ..they can not figure out A from B?
    Prabhat was poking at your collective inertia ..
    Till yesterday the Bhushans were anti national ,maoist sympathizers..Now they are the new avatars of a corruption free society ..These internet hindus sitting in their bunkers always greasing the palms for their self petty gains are coming out as messiahs to liberate this country..what a joke..
    Mr. Vinod Sharma..your readership is wide..Go and hit where it hurts..Tell the truth..we are with you..
    To the guy who uses so many smilies …it is an eye sore…you are not sure about yourself.whether it is a joke or not…..go and get some medical help.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Aa gaya akal ka thekedaar…Always comes for special commentary..Chowkidar of Vinod Sharma..

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    Rajiv Reply:

    Juvenile illbred and ill-read , jokers to the defense of Digvijay Singh’s defenders !!

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Mohan,

    you have gallantly sprung to the defence of this ‘Prabhat’. you said, “Till yesterday the Bhushans were anti national ,maoist sympathizers..Now they are the new avatars of a corruption free society …”

    But, you forgot what this Prabhat said earlier, “They are ********, but they are our ********…” Aayi baat samaz mein?

    Rajiv here has described you thus:”Juvenile illbred and ill-read , jokers to the defense of Digvijay Singh’s defenders….”

    I wouldn’t go so far. Ill-read, may be; Hindu-hater, yes;Defender of Digvinash Singh, certainly. But, an advisor, Vinod Sharma would do well not to touch even with a barge pole.

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    …..this Prabhat !!!

    Wow ! I love your lingo, man !

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Prabhat,

    Now you are definitely sounding like un-Vinod Sharma!

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    A correction:

    But, you forgot what this Prabhat said earlier, “They are ********, but they are our ********…” Aayi baat samaz mein?

    I meant, “But, you forgot what this Prabhat said earlier, “They are b*astards, but they are our b*astards…” Aayi baat samaz mein?

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    But, Archaemedis ran naked from his bath tub!

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  • nirav

    Mr Vinod,

    Ciao…(i am sure namaste you no longer understand:))
    Few question which are not discussed here…
    1)Why did the CD come out now ?
    2)Why did Mr Vinod forget even his morning rituals and ran to get a certificate from government lab?
    3)Can Mr vinod print the governement lab certificate?
    4)Can Mr Vinod load the CD on internet so readers can get it verified themselves.?
    5)Why Mr Vinod never has written on the other panelists?
    Kapil sibal- represented 2G scam cheaters and became telecom minister
    Chidambaram- his son bribed the voters in daylight and he was party for selecting thomas.
    6)Where were you in the fight against corruption??Washing utensils like pratibha patil at the Gandhy family house and hoping to be the next president?
    7)Why are people like you and dilip padgaonkar chosen for all creamy positions by UPA?Kya keemat dete ho madamji ko??

    Tu idhar udhar ki na baat kar, yeh bata ki qaafila kyon loota; hamein rahzanon se gila nahin, teri rehbari ka sawaal hai…

    Here are the supari killers or hit men of the congress
    1)Vinod sharma- Print media -congress hit man
    2)Barkha dutt– Tv media supari killer
    3)Digvijay singh- He is man of all seasons for all kinds of crime
    4)Amar singh- Special projects supari killer
    5)Abhishek singhvi and sibal — lash ko thikane lagane wale..

    and we all know who phoolan devi is…..
    Oops forgot Manmohan singh —- Actually nobody remembers him-Good for nothing.

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  • Shekhar

    Battle is on ,People are divided in to two sides.

    Side A- Corrupt people & there supporters
    Side B- People against corruption & there supporters.

    lets watch who will win,
    the fight between two will decide India’s future

    If side A wins – Corrupt people will continue to rule & loot will be continued.
    If side B wins – Good people will take charge & India will become super power within 20 year.
    God please help side B.to win.

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  • http://rediffmail.com ram

    as soon as congis came to to know that they have to give it to the demands of civil society, they called all deshdrohis in media for informal chat, they were expecting 10 – 15%, but to there surprise more than 95% of them turned out. you all know who was leading

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  • Praveen Saxena

    Shenoy Saab and all friends who wish to fight for an effective LokPal
    Let us go back to the days when the cedibility of the Rajiv Gandhi led Congress Govt was at its lowest and he had risen in the Parliament to state that neither he nor any family member had take bribes in the purchase of Bofors guns .HIs govt was tottering and surviving on a day to day basis, the Digvijay Singhs and the Amar Singhs of that time had resorted to similar shenanigans. Effort was made to take the country for a ride .Those were similar times and one scandal after another of his govt was tumbling out almost every day.( fodder machine , then CBI Chief doing business with an accused company etc etc.
    What was the defence strategy of the Congress and Mr clean, throw muck all around. and we were witness to the St Kitts and the Fairfax forgeries /hoaxes . At that time also important sections of the Media were more keen on helping the corrupt govt of the day and tried to make those forgeries look credible.
    Personally I see history repeating itself. The Congress Party always keeps some dalaals to do their dirty work. The only difference between now and then is that often times now it appears that
    Har shaakh pe dalla baitha hai……..
    It is going to be a long haul Sirjee.

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  • (Dr.) B.N.Anand

    @Vinod Sharma

    Sir

    I just wanted to know your comments with respect to my views but it still begs your response. May be your silence is enough to indicate that you are not comfortable with this and that you are avoiding.
    Mr. Digvijay Singh is changing his targets of attack every day. While one day it is the Lok Ayukt of Karnataka, Mr. Hegde, the next day it is the Bhushans.. Well no one asks him what he has to say about the sorry plight of Delhi Lok Ayukt. This gentleman has recommended that a minister of Delhi govt. ( most probably, it is the PWD minister) be removed because of his having been found following corrupt practices. The Delhi CM is hardly bothered and the recommendations of the Lok ayukt are in the dustbin. Mr. Digvijay has also to explain about the findings of Shunglu committee report. This committee formed by the PM himself with fanfare to investigate CWG has named Mrs. Sheila Dikshit as one of the persons who have been held responsible for various acts of omissions and commissions. The CM met the PM and has rejected the report.. Is n’t it a funny situation that she is rejecting the report of a committee appointed by the PM himself. The media and the PM are both quiet.
    It is no surprise to see the UPA govt. and the sponsored agenda of the media losing credibility in public with every passing day.
    BNA

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    Saarthak Reply:

    Mr B.N. Anand,

    Talking of the Shunglu Panel report, I found Hindustan Times barely covered the accusations against Sheila Dikshit in it. In fact, while the first news of Shunglu Panel’s report as headline news in TOI and had detailed explanations of the irregularities and corruption done by the Delhi CM, HT carried a small report on Page 2 which glossed over the misdeeds of Sheila Dikshit and meant to suggest it was most Suresh Kalmadi and corrupt bureaucrats who were responsible for corruption in the run up to CWG. To anyone who reads news from different sources, this would imeediarely appear like a deliberate cover up. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that this paper and its editors get benefits to run the agenda of the CONgress party.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @B N Anand
    I don’t duck questions and try answering as many as possible. But please understand that I have a lot of other editorial duties to perform and on that count there could be delay in responding to some of your queries.
    The Shunglu Panel report is with the Home Ministry now and it has been asked by the PMO to take the views of people indicted to push the process forward. The need for this arose because former CAG Shunglu did not summon many indiced people for their version in his report.
    As for Digvijaya, I am not at all amused by his runnig commentary on the Lok Pal panel. But in a democracy, these aberrations happen. He has since clarified his comments on Justice Hegde— though not the tirade he unleashed on the Bhushans.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vinodji,

    While you cannot be expected to reply to every question put to you, we can at least expect some good responses from you for those questions which receive your attention. Therefore, your reply on Digvinash Singh’s shananigans are a disappointment.

    I have said it earlier and I will say it now. He is proving the timeless adage, “vinash kaaley vipareeta buddhi”. In the matter of the Bhushans and Justice Hegde ( I knew his father, Shri K.S.Hegde well in Delhi) his wilful attacks on them have seriously undermined the authority of Sonia Gandhi in the party. If we are to go by what little is shown by the channels by way of people’s reactions to the episodes, the opinion is unanimous that this Digvinash spells ‘vinash’ for tha party.

    As a result, public opinion, which was ambivalent about the Bhushans’ continuing on the panel after the land deal issue came in the picture, has now strongly veered to the position that none of the panel members from the civil society will leave the job at hand unfinished.

    Since he is helping “our cause”, I feel he should be handled with “care”.

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    ram Reply:

    Shenoy saab,

    one way its gud this fool vinash took the name of Hegde, Now boomeranged on him

    Now on no fool will open their dirty mouth on civil society members

    Prabhat Reply:

    @Shenoy !

    What did Digvijay “exactly” say about Justice Hegde?

    I am looking for the near-exact quote.

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Prabhat, Ram,

    Digvinash actually said that despite having the best Lokpal law in Karnataka, the corruption in the state is increasing and Justice Hegde, the Lokpal, is not doing anything about it. He also said that Hegde is shielding the corrupt CM.

    Today’s Times of India carries photois of the scenes seen in front of Hegde’s house in Bangalore. Thousands of civil society members, belonging to all political parties gathered to press him not to leave the drafting committee.

    More telling was the face of Digvinash Singh on every news channel. Looking, like (the Kannada proverbaptly describes) an “Ingu tinda manga” (a monkey which has swallowed Heeng), he tried to say, rather sheepishly but most unconvincingly, that he actually praised Hegde!

    Today’s Times also carries conclusive proof that the Amar Singh designed CD is a fraud, a cut-and-paste job done in haste and most unimaginatively.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Mr Vinod Sharma
    ” The Shunglu Panel report is with the Home Ministry now and it has been asked by the PMO to take the views of people indicted to push the process forward. The need for this arose because former CAG Shunglu did not summon many indiced people for their version in his report.”
    In the first place there was no need for the PM to appoint the Shunglu panel as the Constitutional institution of CAG is already there. This was done probably as a clever ploy to have two reports so that the resultant confusion could be taken advantage of . The CAG will in any case discharge his constitutional duty of auditing the expenditure incurred on CWG.
    Any govt audit is done on the basis of scrutiny of the official records and documents only . There is no provision of calling people and taking verbal statements . The Shunglu panel too was not vested with those powers as it was not not a quasi-judicial inquiry. So it totally puerile for the lying Delhi CM to state that she was not called for her version.

    And by the way what have the apologists to say about the Delhi Lokayukta recommending the dismissal of one serving Minister. What have they to say about a serving Goa Minister caught by Customs Deptt with huge foreign currency. Any action on that ? Da Digvijay Singh being charged by thye court with scams in Indore.
    Today I read of 3 illustrious names Shabnam Hashmi , Mahesh Bhatt and one another deriding Anna for his fast as being undemocratic. Did Anna achieve that because of himself or the unprecedented support he got from the country. And if that be the criterion than Mk Gandhi should also be faulted for imposing his personal will on the country on numerous occasions. Remember Chauri Chaura, asking Sardar Patel to withdraw in spite of more popular support , to name a few.
    The CD story is already falling apart.

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @Praveen Saxena

    Sir,
    Who is this Mahesh Bhatt and how he has become a champion of probity? Are you referring the one the film director or there is some one else as a social activist by the same name? If it is the one film director, it is funny that these fimiwallhas have become as much more important as social activist rather than their talent in acting and commercial film making.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Dr B N Anand

    Yes this gentleman is that film personality with an interesting family origin.Of late he is also one of the certfying authorities on secularism , Minority Rights and other such issues etc.

  • Rajiv

    From what BN Anand wrote
    “.. This committee formed by the PM himself with fanfare to investigate CWG has named Mrs. Sheila Dikshit as one of the persons who have been held responsible for various acts of omissions and commissions. The CM met the PM and has rejected the report.. Is n’t it a funny situation that she is rejecting the report of a committee appointed by the PM himself…”

    Bravo. The indictment of Congress for putting corruption on a super-fast track runs all the way to the top : Sheila dixit-Manmohan-Sonia.

    Corruption would not be so brazen and wide spread if the Manmohan-Sonia regime did not survive on the mutual support that these corrupt groups ( including Digvijay, Amar etc ) that offer each other.
    These groups have also co-opted large sections of their media. Its for all to see at HT.

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  • http://- Rajeev

    Now that MP High court has asked to file charge sheet against corrupt Digvijay Singh and 11 others regarding their involvement in shopping complex scam, what have Vinod and minions like Prabhat have to say?
    Or are they going to yell “YEDDY YEDDY”?

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    Rajiv Reply:

    I think Congres and Mr Sharma will probably is that its a minor aberration any human can do. No one is perfect.

    Humay kyon chori karnay say roktay ho ?
    Kya tumnay kabhi chori nahi ki ya jhut nahi bola ?
    saab chor hain.
    Hum achhay chor hain.

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    I am sure Digvijay Singh will NOT part of the anti-corruption Lok Pal Bill Panel.

    And the timing is good !

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  • http://- Rajeev

    I am waiting to hear from political Dalal Amar SIngh and media dalal Vinod Sharma on their master Digvijay Singh’s antics in Indore…
    Is Vinod SHarma going to pull out a CD out of Amar SIngh’s arse to defend Diggi? Time will tell.

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  • Divya

    @Vinod Sharma
    Vinod Sharma to Rajiv : “By your logic all newspapers – Indian Express, Times of India, and HT – are stooges in the hands of the government.”
    Vinod, by bracketing HT with Times of India and Indian Express, you have neither been fair to TOI nor to your own paper.
    Not fair to TOI for two reasons. One, TOI will not touch the likes of Amar Singh – HT’s “man of the moment” – even with a six-metre long pole. Two, the TOI has never allowed , nor ever will, the long-in-power Congress party to have a hotline to it .On the other hand, the less said about the close and historic HT-Congress nexus, the better.
    Not fair for HT because the other paper you mentioned (Indian Express) has touched record lows in the history of Indian journalism in terms of ethical standards, lack of credibility, total subservience to the party in power, i.e. Congress and allies.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    ~~ :D ~~ HT FALLS AND TOI STANDS TALL ! ~~ :D :D

    Today’s Times of India has dislosed that the CD was doctored. !! Read the paper and see the truth ! :D

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    wonder of wonders!

    Times of India is also carrying a news item about the grand mufti of Maoists, Arundhati Roy. She is held to be illegally occupying notified forest land and building her Bungalow, while she wants her comrades to live in huts and shacks in the forests!

    I think th are bad times for Naxalites and their supporters like Roy and Digvinash Singh.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    When Aundhati Roy grabs forest land, the pseudo intellectual brigade will probably shout, ‘She needed this buglow to study the flora and fauna and prevent environmental damage ! :)

    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar
    I am done with the Bhushans on the CD issue. But am responding to clarify that the ToI only reproduced the Truth Lab report Prashant Bhushan had made public at a press conference on April 17, when in the morning they had themselves reported on page one that the CD was not doctored. PL go back and read ToI dated April 17and the truth (different from that of the Truth Labs) will dawn on you.
    The ToI had to contradict themselves because they perhaps had no forensic opinion with them in writing. That is not so in the case of HT.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Divya,

    Very well put, particularly about the Indian Express.

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  • Prabhat

    @Shenoy

    Your Posting :

    “…Digvinash actually said that despite having the best Lokpal law in Karnataka, the corruption in the state is increasing and Justice Hegde, the Lokpal, is not doing anything about it. He also said that Hegde is shielding the corrupt CM….”

    I did bit of back-dated research and this is what I found :
    *********************
    1) “Justice Hegde is the Lokayukta of Karnataka, has corruption stopped there?” said Singh.

    2) “I am not challenging anyone and neither am I accepting any challenges. I’m just saying that Karnataka has the best Lokayukta bill. They have the best Lokayukta. So why haven’t they been able to stop the corruption in Karnataka,” said Singh.

    “Why are they unable to stop the CM’s corruption, why are they unable to stop the Reddy brothers’ corruption?” he asked.
    **********************

    As I see Digvijay is trying to point out that just bill will not help stop corruption. The corrupt persons will indulge in corruptions INSPITE OF Lokayukta and Lokaykta Bill.

    The world believes that Lok Pal bill is the all-problem solution and there would be NO corruption once the bill is introduced.

    The expectation is sky high. Once this bill is implemented and we still see corruption around us, the fall would be earth-shattering.

    But negotiation must be on.

    I am sure the members would find a common ground.

    My point of view is that Digvijay Singh just telling the world that “let’s not treat this one one-shot solution to corruption”. He did not say that Justice Hegde was shielding the corrupt CM of Karnataka !

    I think Justice Hegde should not take it personally. He has a definite role to play in the panel. And he must stick to the original plan.

    Everybody wanted a public debate. Let this be treated as a public debate ! If a member of the society raises a point, counter that with logical statement.

    Anybody in the panel could raise this question during discussion / debate in the formal panel meeting. The other member should be objective enough to counter that point with logical statement(s) and not take it as a personal attack.

    I assume Justice Hegde has high EQ and enough court experience to deal with situation like this. He should not show withdrawal symptoms. We have much larger issues are at stake.

    Hope Justice Hegde stays on and play a constructive role that we all expect him to do.

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    ram Reply:

    prabhat iam frm bangalore

    we have best lokayuktha, but lokayuktha bill is tooth less

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    Prabhat Reply:

    @Ram

    I checked the online copy on the NIC site and this what I found. I am reproducing just a small portion for our discussion.

    *************************************
    The Karnataka Lokayukta Act, 1984
    (KARNATAKA ACT OF 4 OF 1985.
    Came into force w.e.f from 15-6-1986
    As amended by Act Nos. 15 of 1986; 31of 1986; 1 of 1988;30 of 1991 & 22 of 2000)

    The bill provides for the appointment of a Lokayukta and one or more Upalokayuktas to investigate and report on allegations or grievances relating to the conduct of public servants.

    The public servants who are covered by the Act include :-

    *

    Chief Minister;
    *

    all other Ministers and Members of the State Legislature;
    *

    all officers of the State Government;

    *

    Chairman, Vice Chairman of local authorities, Statutory bodies or Corporations established by or under any law of the State Legislature, including Co-operative Societies
    *

    Persons in the service of Local Authorities, Corporations owned or controlled by the State Government, a company in which not less than 50% of the shares are held by the State Government, Societies registered under the State Registration Act, Co-operative Societies and Universities established by or under any law of the Legislature.

    Where, after investigation into the complaint, the Lokayukta considers that the allegation against a public servant is prima facie true and makes a declaration that the post held by him, and the declaration is accepted by the competent authority, the public servant concerned, if he is a Chief Minister or any other Minister or Member of State Legislature shall resign his office and if he is any other non-official shall be deemed to have vacated his office, and, if an official, shall be deemed to have been kept under suspension, with effect from the date of the acceptance of the declaration.

    If after investigation, the Lokayukta is satisfied that the public servant has committed any criminal offence, he may initiate prosecution without reference to any other authority. Any prior sanction required under any law for such prosecution shall be deemed to have been granted.

    The Vigilance Commission is abolished. But all inquiries and investigations and other disciplinary proceedings pending before the Vigilance Commission will be transferred to the Lokayukta.

    ……………………..

    ************************************************

    Ram! I think the scope is large enough.

    The Lokayukta has to be convinced that there is a Prima-facie case and act.

    I do not see why the Lokayuktra should feel restrained by the existing Lokayukta bill !

    I would appreciate if you can throw some light on this and share your experience.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Prabhat,

    you are trying to prove what Digvinash Singh said about Hegde was right. He also said the state has the best law, but Hegde is not prosecuting anybody, including the CM whom he is shielding. (This is what Hegde said on TV quoting Digvinash Singh).

    But, it is OK, have it your way. Now that it appears that the congress demolition team of Digvinash-Kamarband Amar is totally finished, discredited and outsmarted, we can be magnanimous and grant pardon to all the innocent Sonia-Mania wallahs.

    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @ Mr. Prabhat

    No sir, Mr Digvijay Singh did charge justice Hedge to be shielding the Karnatka CM. That was the main charge which hurt and rovoked Mr Hedge to plan to resign from the drafting panel.
    I feel you have to do little more research
    BNA

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Dr.Anand, you are right.

    He is a Sonia-Maniawallah and whatever Digvinash says looks right to Prabhat.

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    Prabhat Reply:

    Dr Anand !

    I scanned old Headlines and I pasted the Headlines in my earlier posting. I have not twisted them in any manner.

    The headlines talk about CORRUPTIONS HAPPENING “INSPITE” OF LOKAYKTA BILL AND LOKAYUKTA.

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  • Vijay Kumar

    ~~~ :D :D ~~:D ~~ PAKISTAN SE AAYI AAWAZ …. DIGVINASH SINGH ZINDABAAD !! :) ~~ :D :D ~~

    Here is an excerpt from the JEHADI TIMES published from Rawalpindi

    DELHI 22 April

    After supporting the terrorists of 26/11 along with A R Antulay, the COngress foot and mouth disease sufferer Digvinash Singh is furthering the Pakistani agenda of destroying the Indian economy and success story by villifying the fighters of corruption. Agent Digvinash has been instructed by the ISI and Pakistan army to destroy India internally like a termite and thus serve Pakistani goal of fomenting discontent and terror in India….

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  • Vijay Kumar

    One reason why the Bhushans are getting negative press is that they exposed some journalists who took rishwat and crumbs from Niira Radia… That is the MOTHER OF ALL TRUTHS !!

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    you are right about the journalists. The Bhushans have, over the last four decades, rubbed hundreds of politicians, bureaucrats and journalists the wrong way, notable among them being Indira Gandhi who lost her malpractices case to Shanti Bhushan.

    But, now thanks largely to Justice Hegde, the tables have been turned on the Digvinash-kamarband Amar team, with the whole civil society standing solidly with the Bhushans. What came out from the press conference held by Mahesh Bhatt, Shabnam Hashmi and K.N.Panniker was a feeble whimper against Anna Hazare and the followers. They exposed themselves as the cry-babies.

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    ram Reply:

    And its seems Diggy stament on Hegde was provided by none other than our own “Sri Ramayana Mahanveshanam,” author

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  • Vijay Kumar

    @ SHenoy

    This whole drama is so funny. Mayawati wants the panel changed, citing Dalits– of course she is scared that her statues may be replaced by that of Gandhi and Patel and her fees for land allotment recovered; Sonia Mata is scared that the panel may want to probe Mr Q links; The Yuvraj is scared and has unleashed his henchman and mafia mobster, Digvinash.

    If all these guys had there way they would appoint all crooks as LokPals. There choice would be

    –> International Dahla– Amar Singh
    –> Fodder chor Lalu
    –> G string star Raja
    –> Clumsy Clown and sycophant Mani Silencer
    –> Master of corruption, Digvinash

    Once these guys manage to get the corrupt to man the LoK Pal, they will contiue to loot and cheat…:)

    Basically all party corruption is what satisfies them… :D Thum bhi chori karna… hum bhi karenge.,..

    Wah Wah WAH ! :D

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  • Prabhat

    @Shenoy

    Shenoy! Your Post ”

    “…….you are trying to prove what Digvinash Singh said about Hegde was right. He also said the state has the best law, but Hegde is not prosecuting anybody, including the CM whom he is shielding. (This is what Hegde said on TV quoting Digvinash Singh)…..”

    1) As I pointed out in my earlier posting, Digvijay talked about “CORRUPTION HAPPENING IN KARNATAKA ” INSPITE ” OF THE BEST LOKAYUKT AND LOKAYUKTA BILL .

    He did not talk about Justice Hegde.

    Justice Hegde said ” I will not act against Karnataka CM, because Congress wants me to act !”

    That’s not a neutral stance ! That’s a loaded political statement !!

    Imagine what would happen when we entrust all pervasive power in the hands of a Lokpal, the highest authority having “slightly” or “latent political bias” ! There will be no recourse ! I think that is what everybody is worried of.

    [ I watched one episode of a serial called khichdi. A small scene -

    ( The wife was trying to provoke her husband. )

    Wife : I will die of shame now, because of your brother.

    Husband : What did he do? he is a nice guy. He can not do anything that you will be ashamed of !

    Wife : I can not tell you what all he said. He does not have an iota of respect for you !.

    Husband : But what did he say?

    Wife: I am completely shattered I just can not take it anymore!!

    Husband : Did he really did that? What did he say?

    Wife : I can even tell you what all he said. You can not take it.

    Husband : He said all that bad things about me? I am going to thrash him. What does he think of himself !!! I paid all his bills. Now, he has done this me ! I am going to kill him. that B***...what does he think of himself...that bloody.........are you sure he said bad things about me?

    Wife: You mean to say I am lying ! You do not believe me ?

    Husband : Call that man ! Hey ! you bloody rascal......... ]

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    ram Reply:

    Its not that karnata is corrupt or congis want yeddy to be behind bars. They want an issue to defend their loot happening in centre and other congi ruled states.

    u have a miss conception that he is a BJP man.

    Infact its DeveGowda (the secular face of the world) who appointed hegde as Lokayuktha

    Note : If u read carefully wht u have written, u will get the answer

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    Prabhat Reply:

    @Ram

    I did not claim Justice Hegde to be the BJP man.

    He could say “There are no corruption charges against Yeddi . Yeddi/reddies are not corrupt. So there is no question of taking action against them. ”

    There is no point saying ” I will not act against Karnataka CM, because Congress wants me to act !”

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    “suno chotisi gudiya ki lambi kahani………….”

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  • Rajiv

    @Prabhat,
    Anyone trying to justify or find any sense in the numerous gutter utterences of a corrupt, political thug like DigVijay singh is a self-proclaimed idiot or thug himself. There are few politicians as dirty as Digvijay Singh, Amar Singh etc. Thats the most charitable thing that can be said about lackeys to such dirty men.

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    Prabhat Reply:

    -
    Harbhajan Singh took 5 wickets yesterday in 5 overs !

    He surely was a villian for Chennai Super King !

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Prabhat,

    even before the battle for the Bhushans began, Sharad Pawar, the Maratha warlord, was asked to quit the GOM on the bill. Instead of making a stand on it, the veteran of many battles ranaway from the battle field with his tail between his legs.

    Now, it is the turn of Digvinash Singh-Kamarbund Amar Singh jodi to do the vanishing act. You will see them leaving by the back door shortly after their short, sweet, hilarious act.

    All this must have played heavily on your mind, which is why you are telling us gudiya ki lambi kahaniyan, Harbhajan’s exploits on the cricket field etc.

    Prabhat, take my advice: Leave these things to Vinodji, he is a veteran editor; he knows how much to take to heart and how much to laugh off.

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    Prabhat Reply:

    -
    neither I take to heart nor I laugh it off !

    I am take these things in my stride.

    And i am glad you gave the respect to “Vinodji, (he is) a veteran editor” deserved.

    That’s long miles you have covered in just 2 days !
    Congratulation!

    Rajeev Reply:

    To me it looks like Prabhat is some HT staff hired by Vinod to post on his behalf. This guy seems to be Dalal of Dalal.

  • Pankaj#1

    @ every one;
    it is funny, no sorry not funny but tragic to read, now, digvijay supporting mayawati for inclusion of a Dalit in Lokpal panel.
    SP says, no need for hazare in UP, We, the SP, are fighting corruption. These virtuosos, epitome of corruption, mayawatis, Mulayams, and Digvijays are feeling threatened that their days of loot are coming to end hence the reaction. What a breath of fresh air.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Just two days back same Digvijay Singh asked Anna Hazare to start a movement against Mayawati’s corruption.
    All of a sudden, this LeT supporter is supporting Mayawati…Chor-Chorni husband-wife..

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  • Prabhat

    @Rajeev

    Your Posting :

    “To me it looks like Prabhat is some HT staff hired by Vinod to post on his behalf. …..”

    Rajeev!

    I am a Ht staffer and Vinodji has hired me !!!!!!!!

    You surely live in a cocooned world and see your little world through a coloured glass. Your vision is so myopic, ears so stuffed and brain so autistic that you can not think beyond few parroted lines to describe or justify anything in this world.

    Do you think Vonodji is so incompetent and helpless that he would need help of a political bystander like me?

    Or, do you think he is as petty and crooked minded person like that famous politician/deputy prime minister who would ignite the fire and then sit quiet and enjoy the world on fire !

    I know you can not think independently. You can only parrot few lines and sing a chorus.

    In last 2 days, your team leader has covered a long distance and now gives Vinodji his due respect.

    Shenoy says “……..Leave these things to Vinodji, he is a veteran editor; he knows how much to take to heart and how much to laugh off…..”

    Now, take the cue from your team leader Shenoy.

    Stop undermining Vinodji’s intelligence.

    Vinod Sharma does not need to outsource his defence. He is a very capable and veteran journalist.

    Even your team leader this Shenoy says so.

    Now, parrot !!!

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  • http://- Rajeev

    @Prabhat,
    “Do you think Vonodji is so incompetent and helpless that he would need help of a political bystander like me?”

    YES

    “Or, do you think he is as petty and crooked minded person like that famous politician/deputy prime minister who would ignite the fire and then sit quiet and enjoy the world on fire !”

    YES

    “Vinod Sharma does not need to outsource his defence. He is a very capable and veteran journalist.”

    Nice Joke…

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    Prabhat Reply:

    -
    @Rajeev

    Check out your Team Leader, Shenoy’s posting. He is the man showered praises on Vinod Sharma !!!

    If it’s a joke ask Shenoy why he dumped you and your collective identity !

    Complain to him that you are not able to keep with your Team Leader’s sudden turns and twists. Don’t blame me for your latency !

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Prabhat,

    Rajiv is wrong in surmising that you are an HT staffer hired by Vinod Sharma to strengthen his weak flanks.

    YOU ARE VINOD SHARMA.

    Your spewing hatred for Advani has all the hallmarks of a Vinod Sharma kind of secularism. You are now back to tu-tu, main-main with Rajeev. That itself is the give-away.

    hat I had said earlier was all about your own mental agitation. Read it carefully:

    “All this must have played heavily on your mind, which is why you are telling us gudiya ki lambi kahaniyan, Harbhajan’s exploits on the cricket field etc.

    Prabhat, take my advice: Leave these things to Vinodji, he is a veteran editor; he knows how much to take to heart and how much to laugh off.”

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    Prabhat Reply:

    I wish I could surpress my laughter.

    I expected you to be a litter better than that !

    If the Team Leader has such poor judgement, I really can not blame Rajeev et al !

    I guess you guys know Vinod Sharma better than me as you have been following his blog regularly and been hounding him.

    I just strayed into this blog 2 days back.

    But your comments are nevertheless interesting and amusing.

    I do not know how strongly Vinod Sharma opposes Advani.

    But let me tell you if ONLY Vinod Sharma was against the values of Advani, then Mr Advani would have been the Prime Minister of India by now. He would not have been on a perpetuall wait !!!

    Anyway, this not the time to talk about Advani. Let’s stay focussed on Lokpal bill.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    @ Shenoy, Prabhat
    Shenoy sahab, You never cease to amaze me. Currently, you are living in Bangalore but your language testify that you have lived North of Vindhyachal for long. I was just wondering, whether you lived in North since your childhood becuase the word Prabhat Pheri is so symbolic, that it was used in different context in different times. During Gandhi’s days, it was used to awaken masses from British slavery, In my childhood, it was used in schools to bring children out in the morning on Gandhi jayanti or 14 November, for Chacha Nehru and some time I saw them being organised by some religious people as well. I am wondering, whether, this was practiced in South of Vindhyachal as well. Well, your posts reinforces my belief that -Ham Ek hain.
    Prabhat,
    Prabhat Pheri is not Pun here, this word puts you in an exalted category. Your arguments are dignified and adds to healthy debate here. However, I do not agree with your arguments, and as it is your privilage to disagree, mine privilage to disagree is also there. Let us start with respect to Vinod, No body insulted Vinodji here, we disagree with him but intent is never to humiliate him. few aberrations were from both sides.
    You take the line that if only Vinod had disagreed with Advani, he would have become a Prime Minister and would not have continue to be Prime minister in waiting for so long. You are revealing your self. Despite of Corruption galore, you are valiantly defending Congress and its cohorts, though in a subtle way. Minimal of these infractions, no, this is a very mild word for corruption of this magnitude, would have made responsible persons to be langushing in jail for long.
    About coalition dharma, where congress allowed this high corruption, just to stay in power is inexcusable. Chandrashekhar and Vajpayee allowed their government to fall, rather than, purchasing MPs. BJP and Advani come out as better persons, as compared to this government any day. Hope to come back for Lokpal bill soon.
    As Dr. Mishra said, LET THE CRITICISM BEGIN
    will come back again, time permits

    Rajeev Reply:

    @Prabhat,
    Mr.Shenoy is just being polite to Sharma who is soon going to become notorious for being handyman of Amar Singh and Digvijay Singh.

    He is finished as a journalist. He is now more like Rajiv Shukla, chappal bearer of Dynasty.

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    Vijay Kumar,

    yesterday, oyu had written about Mayawati’s demand for inclusion of an SCmember on the drafting committee. Perhaps her hope is that the SCmember would insert provision for exemption from prosecution for SC CMs (like herself) and SC ministers in cases of corruption.

    I have a solution.

    W

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    Incomplete post.

    I have a solution:

    why not appoint A.Raja as a member on the committee in place of Sibal?

    In fact, Raja is the original, Sibal is the duplicate. Why have a duplicate when the original is available?

    Karunanidhi had earlier demanded that Raja should not be prosecuted, because he belongs to the SC; now what MMS can do is to bring him to the meetings in the jail van, remove his hand-cuffs (and also chains, if any) and when the meetings are over, take him back to the cell.

    Or else, they can convert the basement of the now defunct Akbar hotel into a jail and have the meetings of the committee on the 3rd or 4th floor. How is this idea, Sirjee?

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  • V.K.CHAWLA

    सरकार उल्फा को दे रही है 40 लाख रुपये ‘जेबखर्च’ ; NAVBHARAT TIMES 24TH APRIL 2011
    नई दिल्ली।। असम के अलगाववादी उल्फा नेताओं को उनके रोज के खर्चों और परिवार चलाने के लिए केंद्र सरकार की ओर से 40 लाख रुपये दिए जा रहे हैं। गृह मंत्रालय ने उल्फा के अरविंद राजखोवा, प्रदीप गोगोई और अन्य नेताओं तथा संगठन के करीब 400 कैडरों की वित्तीय सहायता के लिए पहली किस्त जारी कर दी है।

    मंत्रालय के एक अधिकारी ने बताया असम सरकार के माध्यम से उल्फा को पैसा दिया गया है। यह पैसा उल्फा सदस्यों के दैनिक खर्च और उनके परिवार की जरूरतों को पूरा करने के लिए दिया गया। केंद्र आने वाले दिनों में प्रतिबंधित समूह के लिए और पैसे जारी कर सकता है।

    उल्फा पर हथियार और गोलाबारूद खरीदने तथा अपने कैडरों को ट्रेनिंग देने के लिए असम में करोड़ों रुपये की वसूली करने का आरोप है। इस समूह पर समीपवर्ती बांग्लादेश में कई कारोबार चलाने का भी आरोप है

    WAH RE HAMAARI SARKAR . UPA SARKAAR , CONGRESS SARKAAR

    FIRST IT WAS LTTE , AN IMPORTED TERROR ORGANISATION , NOW PURE INDIGINEOUS
    TERROR ORGANISATION BEING FUNDED BY OUR MANNU BHAI & CHIDDU BHAI’s GOVT.

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    Pankaj ji,

    Just as the phrase ‘Prabhat Pheri’ evoked nostalgic memories in you, I too was taken six decades back, when it was a common occurance in our place. You will be interested to know that Karnataka too was fully involved in the freedom struggle, though my district, South Kanara joined the state only after 1956. In our school and elsewhere, we used to enthusiastically sing another national song, now long forgotten-Jhanda ooncha rahe hamaara.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks Shenoy sahab;
    let us still say Jhanda Uncha Rahe hamara of civil society. Unbridled power of politicians has brought havoc to this nation’s polity.

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  • shalu

    are not Ahmedabad: Parsi community here showered praises on Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi today with one of the high priests wishing him to become the Prime Minister of India, while a Bollywood actor described him as protector of sacred fire ‘Atash Behram’.

    Modi was chief guest at a function organised to celebrate the 1290th Anniversary of Shreeji Pak Iranshah at Udvada, a world renowned pilgrimage centre for Paris community.

    “On the 1300th anniversary of Shreeji Pak Iranshah, ten years later, I wish it to be celebrated in presence of ‘prime minister’ Narendra Modi,” High Priest Dastur Kurshedjee Kekobad said during his address.

    He said that Parsi people were secure in Gujarat and ‘Foundation for development of Udvada’ is the result of Chief Minister’s farsightedness. Even the Zoroastrian Information Centre has also been developed with the help of Chief Minister’s funding, he added.

    Noted film actor Boman Irani who was present on the occasion described Modi as the protector of the sacred fire ‘Atash Behram’ and of pilgrim place Udvada, second after King Jadav Rana of Sanjan who gave shelter to people of Parsi community on their arrival in India.

    Irani also thanked Modi government for initiating efforts to preserve the sanctity and solemnity of Udvada.

    Modi has come in for praise from different sections of people, of late, including Anna Hazare. However, Modi’s critiques in Gujarat had said it was misplaced.

    P.S
    parsis and sikhs are not minorities and neither r hindus in kashmir …YEAH

    MODI HATES MINORITIES….his gujarat has regular riots…congress rule was so peaceful

    1985 and 1969 etc etc riots did not happen …all started by congress including 2002..started by a congress councilor and gang who burnt train…

    this is the level of the reporting of our mafia media

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  • Vijay Kumar

    @ Shenoy & Pankaj

    Do you know that Digvinash and Yuvraj have penned down a new song for the COngress

    and that is

    ” Dalal hameesha Rahe AMAR hamaara…” :D :D :D

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  • Praveen Saxena

    Without dwelling deeper into whether “Prabhat’ is a clone or a “next friend” of Mr Vinod Sharma , but some striking similarities ,which could simply be co-incidental ,are quite evident.
    Apart fom sharing a common love for the Congress , defending its prevarications and lies , its corruption and inherent hypocricy and on the CD episode trying to muddy the waters , both have alleged at some time or the other , that many of us who visit this Blog are part of an organized gang , that we meet in some hidden chambers of Shaolin etc etc.
    As for Shenoy Saab being our team leader , rightly said ,we do have a considerable respect for him. That this gang respects Mr Vinod Sharma inspite of differing with him on most issues, should also be taken on record .

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  • Vijay Kumar

    @ Prabhat

    Vajpayee was too much of a gentleman and that is why he let the Bofors issue untouched.

    His heart bled for a widow called Sonia and her children. Since Rajiv was dead he thought it was best not too insult the Gandhi family by taking out the truth.

    However, the unethical Congress is repaying this favour by unleashing false cases against the BJP top brass.

    Wah re Digvinash … ab toh thum duniya ke top Dala ke pujari ban gaye ho… aur Congress Tumhari… :D

    At this pace, Digvinash will one day stage a palace coup and present hiumself for the PM kursi by blackmailing the Rajmata that he will reveal the truth about Mr Q and kickbacks… :D

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    this Digvinash Singh has announced that the clown prince will soon take “higher responsibilities”.

    Is it a threat or a notice to MMS, poor bali ka baqra. I think even before his life’s ambition of taking breakfast in Lahore has begun to cook, he is being asked to get his bisther-bori packed.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ SHenoy

    Seriously speaking, the plan is to have Prnabda as PM for 2 yrs till 2016. And then foist this juvenile clown who loves the LeT on us !! :D

    DR MMS has already said he wont contest for the enxt polls. A suitable old man is needed to stick on for two years.

    hey bhagwan… hai allah… Wahe Satguru… yeh kya Dhamaal hai ???

    Kya LeT ko jo joke samjhata hai, iss desh ka neta hoga????/ :( :(

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay,
    really speaking, Arjun singh and Digvijay singh are the people, who have ambitions, much beyond their capabilities.
    These 2 politicians fought like cat and dogs(wonder of wonder-silently, stealthly, slyly) while in MP’ Eventually, they divided area of influence between two of them. Arjun migrated to center and Digvijay decided to exploit MP. Everybody knows, the shock on Arjun’s face, when Narsinmha Rao was chosen as PM in place of him. Arjun also agreed to this, thinking that sick, Narsimha Rao, has not much time on his side and will soon depart from the scene, leaving vacancy open for him. Miraculously, Rao, regained his health and for eternal frustration of Arjun, continued to be PM. Arjun employed, every trick of the trade( He was really rich in this department, could have sold refrigerator to an eskimo) but did not succeed. Any body, who remembers, TV channels and or Newpaper reports, would understand Arjun’s Dilemma. My dear Prabhat, that was the real waiting for the seat by a corrupt congressi. BJP is much more disciplined and dignified party. Advani as a politician and person, is probably, one of the finest person in indian politics at present. Digvinash, after being discredited at his home state, is now a floatsome, but, following in the illustrious steps of his predecessor, one can see his hidden ambition of occupying that chair. Hence the 26/11 was carried out by RSS and burney was obliged by his presence on that book release to garner their uncommited votes at crunch time. Door ki kaudi khel rahe hain Thakur.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Correction;
    Arjun Singh and Digvijay Singh who had/ have ambitions, much beyond their capabilities.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Pankaj

    Digvinash has now appointed Arjun Singh’s son as MP Congress chief. Is he the same cheat who floated a fake lottery scheme with photographs of our soldiers, pretending that the money be used for our soldiersw welfare?

    Using the sacrifice of our soldiers as a coverup for personal loot is a past tradition for the COngress as Bofors, HDW and Adarsh have shown…. : (

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vjay;
    Rahul was associated with Churhat lottery and I think that had to do with children’s welfare. It created a lot of hoopla at that time and since it was a long time back, I do not remember details. I have much more more corruption nuggets for Arjun, but will not recount, out of consideration for a departed person.

  • http://rediffmail.com ram

    Kalmadi arrested by CBI in CWG scam case

    poor guy, he gave most of the loot money to foreigners sitting in india

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Ram

    It is time to immediately call the the choir group and start with the chorus

    Amit Shah Amit Shah , Modi Modi, Gujarat Gujarat

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  • Vijay Kumar

    @ Praveen

    You forgot to add “rape.. rape… ” :D

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, Ram, Praveen Saxena,

    the seva dal boys have been ordered to sing every Sunday this new anthem for congressmen by the Clown prince and Digvinash Singh team:

    jhanda ooncha rahe party ka hamaara
    Amar bangaye dost pyaara
    hain ye dalaal party ke hamaara
    Ab inke sahaare banega shadyantra hamaara
    desh ke ooper kabza bane rahega hamaara
    Hain yeh amar, dost ek pyaara, pyaara

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    Excellent !! Javed akhtar and Anand Bakshi would’nt have done better !

    We now need a RD Burman or a LaxmiKant Pyarelal to compose this to a sixty piece orchestra ! :D :D

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    ram Reply:

    @ Vijay

    Especially Javed bai gives less poetry and more of shower !

    Rember mouth ka soudhagar, by the time mam learnt the meaning, Modiji walked away with the Trophy

    inbetween, How abt A R Rehman (Minority quota)

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    In the anthem, the team had forgotten to take note of its effect on Pakistan. So, a last line has been added. The first mass singing will take place under candle lights at the Wagah border with Kuldip Nayar as the torch bearer. Here is the amended anthem:

    Hain yeh amar, dost ek pyaara, pyaara
    al juwara, al juwara, al juwara

    ram Reply:

    Shenoy saab hw abt our “Separated at birth” along with Nayar

  • Praveen Saxena

    With Karunanaidhi’s daughter and wife also charged by the SC ( and not Manmohan Singh )monitored CBI will Kapil Sibal and Montek Ahluwalia eat crow. UPA ’s two much touted acclaimed economist and lawyer duo , had loudly proclaimed that no finacial loss had occurred in allotment of spectrum by Raja.

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    ram Reply:

    only kani is charged not Dayalu (although she has 60% stake)

    There smthing fishy

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ ram

    Senior citizen corruption discount ! :D

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  • (Dr.) B.N.Anand

    In the end, it seems that some sanity has dawned on both Digvijay Singh and Amar Singh. Is it a lull before the storm or because of following the “HUKUMNAMA” issued from the top brass?
    BNA

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  • Vijay Kumar

    @ Dr Anand

    Digvinash and Amar– the laural and hardy of corruption, the chort chor mausare bhai of loot were too oily for the Indian Janata to swallow. Nobody believed them. THe Congress vote share kept falling ! :D

    Only our innocent Vinod Sharmaji, who seems gullible and child like naive when it comes to the Congress fixers, believed Amar Dalla and Digvinash joker.

    hey VInodji… please shed the innocence and become worldly wise. You may believe that Uncle Amar Dalla made his money by hardwork and Digvijay is doing all this for the good of Mahatma Gandhi’s ideals… But I think YOU are the only person in India who believes this !!! :D :D

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  • Vijay Kumar

    ~~ :D :D ~~ THE NEW MISSION OF INTERNET BLOGGERS ~~ :D :D ~~

    Due to the onslought of nthe internet bloggers and the people of India, the Supreme court appointed CBI probe has come to the DMK door.

    Congrats to all of us and arnab who led the charge !! :D

    But… We have to be careful now.

    The probe is not looking into Congress corruption and is focused only on that of the allies like the DMK. We all should…

    –> Focus on Congress loot as in Rajasthan where fresh dakaiti and chori is stumbling out of Gehlot’s cupboards.

    –> Focus on the 15% Tapan Mitara mentioned in the Radia tapes on Higway contracts.

    –> Focus on Digcinash and his chori

    –> Amar dalal, champion of kickbacks who can beat Zardari handsdown needs to be unclothed !!

    Hum hoge Kaamyaab !!

    Ek din… man mein hai Vishwaas…

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  • Prabhat

    @Vinod Sharma

    Vinodji ! I guess you have a group of real admirers !

    It does not matter what topic you choose, what day or month you blog, their response would be same.

    They have a pre-determined tone,tenor and language to respond on your blog.

    It’s almost as fashionable as lighting candle at India gate, these days.

    Walk in silence candle in hand, spend few moments and think ” when next ? ” !

    You should feel good, that this group of your admirers spend considerable amount of their waking hours on your blog .

    They want to make their presence felt on your blog.

    They love their moments on your blog. If nobody debates or argues with them, they even scratch each other a bit, once a while, to let each other know that they are alive on the blog !

    I guess the stickiness is just enviable !

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Prabhat,

    we may be spending “considerable time of our waking hours” on this blog.

    But you have spent even some of your sleeping hours on this blog. Check it out.

    Your candles lighted at Wagah border have raised only scorn from the other side and also some terrorist attacks.

    Our candles lighted at India Gate have sent shivers down the spines of mighty memsaabs and clown princes, forcing them to foist fake CDs on the nation and become, in hte process, the jokes in the media and internet.

    Prabhat,

    it is not as if you have not ried to “argue/debate” your points with us. The fact is that pseudos will always lose out to genuines.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shenoy Sahab;
    Few blogs back, when I had said that congress understand only language of violence, Vinodji took exception to this and accused me of threatening of physical violence. I had explained that, it is not physical violence, I am talking about, but Egypt coming to India. Only after some time, this actually happened and government caved in, fearing violence of voters turning against it in droves on issue of corruption. My this post is because:
    Taki Sanad Rahe.

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    Prabhat Reply:

    -
    You are right.

    I just need to sleep walk to deal with situation here. And that’s potent enough !!

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  • Rajiv

    DMK’s 2nd wife under scanner ?
    What about DMK’s first wife called Congress ?

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    veer bhallal Reply:

    ha ha, first wife trying to elope with another corrupt south Indian politician, but could not move due to heavy wight

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  • veer bhallal

    wah kya bath hai, being minority commission member you have got reservations for anna’s praise of modi, but you got no reservation to rub the shoulders and some thing else with yasinmalik the rapist of poor hindu pandits, razakar in owaisi, terrorist madani, shahbudding of bihar, azharuddin the match fixer etc., persons of your ilk really disgusting secularist

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  • V.K.CHAWLA

    Dinesh 2 hours ago
    DON’T BLAME CONGRESS. Congress is as innocent as SNAKES, because they don’t feel pain of Snake bite to Victims. We Indians are addicted to SNAKE BITES.
    6 people liked this

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  • Yunus Sait

    With the CFSL (Chandigarh) report out, I presume that it tears to bits your biased & deceptive evidence. Is this the type of journalistic ethics you practice? Now with a load of egg on your face, i think it is time that you give an unconditional apology to the father / son Bhushan duo. With due diligence let me say that for a journalist, you unashamedly take sides with the party in power. You sure are wise to the fact on which side your bread is buttered. Surely not your readers.

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    MC Reply:

    It is time for Mr. Sharma to reveal the source of his report on the CD.

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  • http://none K.J.RAWTANI

    COME ON Mr VINOD SHARMA,TELL US HOW COULD YOU MANAGE TO GET CFSL,DELHI REPORT IN SUCH A QUICK TIME,ALMOSZT IN A JIFFY.WHAT MAGIC WAND YOU ARE USING.

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  • MC

    CFSL Delhi is in trouble for declaring the Bhushan CD as authentic. Why is Mr. Vinod Sharma quiet on this issue? Is it not time for him to reveal the source of his report? If he just keeps quiet, his credibility will be severely dented.

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  • http://openid.aol.com/ctripathy chandrika

    Great article.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/kanikadhupar Kanika Dhupar

    Woow Bunny, you sure have a point there. We always think everyone out here has to have an ulterior motive to suit their case.
    Its taken to a supreme level….but you sure gotta have faith to hang in their, amidst everything!

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    Kushal Reply:

    Yup. Don’t be a cynic, Kanika. But don’t be an idiot either.

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    Kanika Dhupar Reply:

    Aye Aye Captain :*

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  • Rhea Sharma

    Kushal,
    Firstly there is no comparison between both shows, as you already may know this. Secondly, have you ever been behind the curtains of any of these shows? Talk to me, i can enlighten you with some info.
    Cheers,
    Rhea

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    Concerned Reply:

    Hi Rhea,
    I hope nothing wrong goes on behind the curtains of Satyamev Jayate, but if there is something that we should concern oursekves with, we would all like to know, and maybe you can help. We are eagerly and ernestly waiting for what you have to say

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    Kushal Reply:

    Hi Rhea,

    Like Concerned below, I’m curious to know what you have to say about Satyamev.

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  • 12ka4

    So, after watching “Satyamev Jayate” , what did you do other than question it? I hope you give your time and money to the cause. Even if you question the emotions (tears here) in the show, I hope you do believe that all the problems raised in the show do exist in India, and we all have to work towards solving it.

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    Kushal Reply:

    I’ve been supporting four charities for years, 12ka4, so yes, I’ve been questioning things for quite a while.

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  • masha

    So true!! We have become lemon sucking cynics I tell you!! Where’s the optimism people? Nowadays even doing someone a favour makes them think that you have some ulterior motive. Granted our life is not as simple as before and manipulation is the name of the game, but is it fair to tar everybody with the same brush?
    Once in Ahmedabad, the autowallah deviated from my usual route (I am rather fanatical about my routes, a little OCD even) and as usual I started berating the autowallah for taking a longer route. Imagine my surprise and red faced embarrassment when the fare came to 5-6 rupees less than usual.. I guess a little trust in the autowallah would have saved me some face..

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    Kushal Reply:

    Grin. And I gave an auto driver in Delhi the exact opposite lesson. He was a young man, straight from the village, I think, trying to act as tough as an experienced Delhi auto driver. When I asked if he’d go to XYZ colony where I was headed, he barked aggressively: Sixty rupees.

    That was actually much less than the meter fare, so I suggested (without telling him that), that he turn on the meter. He refused again and again and I told him, fine, I’ll pay you the 60 rupees you’re demanding, but turn on your meter anyway.

    When we got there, the fare was 75 by meter. He was mortified.

    (I paid him the correct fare, but not before giving him a small lecture on the benefits of honesty.)

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  • masha

    So true!! We have become cynics I tell you!! Where’s the optimism people? Nowadays even doing someone a favour makes them think that you have some ulterior motive. Granted our life is not as simple as before and manipulation is the name of the game, but is it fair to tar everybody with the same brush?

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  • masha

    My louely comments are being hidden due to abuse reports.. :( There were no bad words I swear!! :(

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    Kushal Reply:

    My sympathy Masha, I haven’t a clue how this strange comment system works.

    Shall call the head of the internet division and ask in a loud voice.

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  • Parvana

    I absolutely adore Junior Masterchef Australia. The things that strike me most about this show, apart from the amazing kids, are all the judges…they’re amazing. They don’t talk down to the kids, terrify them or yell at them – which is what would happen here – and they are constantly encouraging them. So very heartening to watch! Kudos to them.

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  • Kapil

    Kushal,
    The last para sums it up all…….its a matter of faith. We have faith in God even if we haven’t seen Him……. but as times are rapidly changing, words like faith, belief, honesty et. al. have lost (quite some) significance……you may call me a cry baby as Sonal Kalra would…but mistrust is the order of the day… and mind you, it is not misplaced too.
    With changing times we have become very argumentative…..why this? why that?
    and the argument says, if Aamir was truly a human being par excellence and interested in the overall interest of the nation and its public and their personal state of affairs etc. etc…… would he have dumped his wife and two kids to fend for themselves ……. and the guy fell for a much younger woman…or may be as per Islam he cud marry n number of times…??????
    But then……..like to believe that he is doing all this for the sake of his genuine concern. :)

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  • http://www.facebook.com/saritray01 Sarit Ray


    Thinking makes life difficult. Not questioning things makes life easier…” Nicely said!

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  • Ba Tu

    The innocence of thought and belief is lost indeed. And I think part of the reason again is something very human. We are fed with images and conjectures on a daily basis by scores of channels and internet, with little credibility and context. So in light of this, its become fashionable to question everything as form of standing up for something or being an “opinionated” person almost sounding like an intellectual. As you rightly pointed out, there is a thin line of difference between constructive criticism and rampant questionism. I guess we are still evolving. As a nation, we have only been exposed to a dialogue on social issues on a national level for about two decades. theres many more churns to go through. ~Ishmart Alec

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7XVK6BRUJHTBJCDMA6YSIFBUBE Suresh BV Bharadwaj

    Within a few days of taking charge of the Finance Ministry, the Asian Indian Aryan, Dravidian, Mongolian & Australoid Hindu, Sikh, Shinto, Tao, Confucian, Buddhist & Jain PM Manmohan Gurmukh Amrit Kaur Singh has proved that he is a quick action taker, a decisive leader & a good performer. Dr. Singh delivers spectacular results if he is in total control & others are not micro-managing him or placing roadblocks. When the fish, chicken & mutton eating RSS Brahmin Atal Bihari Shyam Krishna Vajpayee was the PM, BJP stood solidly behind him & allowed him complete freedom both in the government & the party. When PV Narasimha Rao was the PM, he too called all the shots in the administration & Indian National Congress party. Likewise, Jawaharlal Nehru, the son of the chicken, beef & pork-eating Motilal Nehru was the PM, he faced no internal dissensions either in the government or in the party. Of course, the Non-Aryan European British Greek Christian Edwina Mountbatten kept a tight control over Jawaharlal with the help of Remote Body Area & Mind Control Networks & made him to write to her every day about the affairs of India. Likewise, the converted Christian & fish, pork, chicken & mutton eating Rajiv Roberto Iranian Parsee Shia Muslim Firoz Jehangir Nawab Khan Ghandi faced no challenge to his powers, both in the administration & party from any of the Indians; however, the role played by Edwina Mountbatten when Jawaharlal Nehru was India’s PM, was played by the Non-Aryan European Italian Roman Catholic Christians Sonia Edwige Antonia Albina Roberto Maino, Mascali Ottavio Quattrocchi & Swedish AB Bofors Howitzer Corruption Commission Paying Gun in Rajiv Gandhi’s PM & personal lives. In the case of fish, chicken & mutton eating Indian PMs – Jat Charan Singh, Vokkaliga HD Deve Gowda, Kshatriya Chandra Shekhar, Pakistant-export IK Gujral & Kshatriya VP Singh, the Indian National Congress constantly breathed down their necks, never allowed them to breathe freely & under-cut their powers in decision making, appointments & administration. The fish, chicken & mutton eating Kayastha Brahmin Lal Bahadur Shastri took complete control of the Indian mind & administration with his clean, effective & Jai Jawan & Jai Kisan administration until he was poisoned to death by bad & malignant elements. The ablest, strongest, most patriotic & meat eating PM Indirani Priyadarshini Gandhi had complete control over both government administration & party management but her closest & ablest son Sanjay Gandhi was cruelly killed by her detractors. Similarly, his own urine drinking Gujarati Brahmin Morarji Desai stood his ground well, though he was a little weakened because Nanaji Deshmukh refused to become the Industry Minister & opted out of politics because of his differences with AB Vajpayee & LK Advani & because Madhu Limaye constantly attacked RSS support to his government. It is time the eggs, fish, chicken & mutton eating Manmohan Singh is made the Indian National Congress President & allowed to serve India as an able, amiable, honest & results-giving Indian PM. Jai Azad Hind! Jai Hind! OM!

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  • Deluxe Hotel in Bhubaneswar

    One of the lovely hotels in bhubaneswar with very good hospitality and glorious accommodation….

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  • nirode mohanty

    Please do not give space to terrorists. They should be a part of the mainstream.
    Else, they should go to a Muslim country.

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    rao Reply:

    Key accused
    (1). Lt. Col. Prasad Shrikant Purohit (37): He is the brain
    behind the Sept.29, 2008 blasts and the man that held it all together. He was
    the founder and one of the chief fund-raisers of the Pune-based organisation,
    Abhinav Bharat. He is also accused of procuring the RDX that was used in the
    blast. (He was arrested on Nov.5, 2008).

    (2). Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur (38): Her bike was used to plant the bomb in
    Malegaon, and she is accused of engineering the blast. She has a Masters in
    History, and became a sadhvi in Jan.2007. (She was arrested on Oct.23).

    (3). Rakesh Dhawde (35): Dhawde, an arms expert, has been booked for four
    previous bomb blast cases. He provided the required weapon training and supplied
    arms to Purohit. (He was arrested on Nov.2, 2008).

    (4). Swami Dayanand Pandey alias Shankar Acharya alias Sukhakar Dwuvedi (40):
    He can be seen as the key point man and is said to have been present at the
    meetings held in Bhopal, Pune and Faridabad before the Malegaon blasts. He is
    also accused of conducting meetings with the other accused. Prior to his arrest,
    he

    ran two ashrams in Kanpur and Jammu and Kashmir. (He was arrested on Nov.14,
    2008).

    (5). Retd. Maj. Ramesh Upadhyaya (64): A resident of Akurdi, Pune, he worked
    with the military’s intelligence unit, and is suspected to have provided the
    training required for procuring and assembling the bombs. (He was arrested on
    Oct.28, 2008).

    (6). Ajay Rahrikar (39): He was the treasurer of the Abhinav Bharat, and a
    part of the fund-raisers group. He paid Rs. 2.5 lakh to Swami Dayanand Pandey
    prior to the blast. (He was arrested on Nov.2, 2008).

    (7). Jagdish Mhatre (40): A habitual criminal and an accused in a murder and
    an extortion case in Kalyan and Thane, he is believed to have paid Dhawde for
    the weapons. (He was arrested on Nov.2, 2008).

    (8). Sameer Kulkarni (32): A former member of the Akhil Bharatiya Vidhyarthi
    Parishad (ABVP), he was employed at a printing press. He is suspected to have
    supplied the chemicals used in the bomb. (He was arrested on Oct.28, 2008).

    (9). Sudhakar Chaturvedi (37): Originally a resident of Mirzapur in UP,
    Chaturvedi was picked up from Deolali where he stayed in a rented room. He is
    accused of conspiracy; the bomb was assembled in his house. (He was arrested on
    Nov.4, 2008).

    (10). Sham Bhanwarlal Sahu (42): He is suspected to be one of the bomb
    planters. A commerce graduate from Christian College in Indore, Sahu has a
    mobile phone shop and also acted as a realty broker. He is also accused of
    abetting the blasts and conspiracy. (He was arrested on Oct.23, 2008).

    (11). Shivnarayan Kalsangra Singh (36): A BSc graduate, Singh is seen as a
    “mechanical and electrical” expert by the ATS. He is suspected to have assembled
    the timer device while making the bomb. (He was arrested on Oct.23,
    2008).

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  • engrich
  • Anonymous

    UK becoming multi cultural is a good thing. Global acceptance of all forms of Islam including athiestic Sufi Islam is welcome. However they should take care not to bend to Mullas and get Sharia in their legal system. Neither should the fair minded British abandon the hapless Muslim women in name of multi faith.

    It would be in fitness of things if Saudi Arabia also learns from Britain and encourages mutli faith churches and temples.

    I would love to hear the peal of Church bells or the cry of “Jo bole so nihal…” in the streets of Riyadh, Jeddah and Mecca…

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  • engrich

    engrich– ‘whereas, the Persians, Ottomans and Moghul empires encouraged coexistance wherever they ventured’ NOT COMPLETELY TRUE.

    IT IS TRUE.MUSLIMS ENTERED INDIA BECAUSE THEY WERE POWERFUL.BEST CITIES,BEST TEMPLES BEST MOSQUES UNDER THEIR COMMAND AND RULE.CHRISTIANITY ANNIHILATED ENTIRE LOCAL POPULATION OF EUROPE AMERICA NEWZEALAND AND AUSTRALIA.IN VEDIC PERIOD LOCAL POPULATION WAS NOT ALLOWED TO GO SCHOOL.U GO TO ISTAMBOUL U WILL FIND SYNOGOGUE MOSQUE AND CHURCHES SIDE BY SIDE BUILT DURING KHILAFAT.IN LAHORE BEST SIKH TEMPLE STILL EXIST WITHIN 50 YARDS OF BADSHAHI MOSQUE.GURUDWARA SEES OF DELHI WAS ALWAYS IN RANGE OF MOGHUL CANNONS.MALAYSIA HAS BEST HNDU AND BUDHDHIST TEMPLES.IN JERUSALAM,CHRISTIANS KICKED OUT JEWS,HAZRAT OMAR BROUGHT THEM BACK AND CLEANED JEWISH HOLY PLACES WITH HIS OWN HANDS.DURING SPANISH RULE MOST OF TOP EXECUTIVES WERE JEWS.CHURCH KILLED THEM ROBBED THEM AND KICKED THEM OUT OF SPAIN.

    in dubai idgah,2 hindu temples nad gurudwara are in same compound.

    tipu palace was within few yards of main temple of that area.

    ayodhya was owned by persian nawabs,they donated land to present temples.land for golden temple was donated by muslims.muslims were great asset whereever they go.muslims built the best cities and road.our arrival on indian sucontinent was a gift to indians.for the first time all indians were equal before law…………………………………………………

    Onus is on us muslims to integrate and adapt everywhere- will take our quom 25 years to improve image after 7/7, 9/11

    sept 11 &7/7 were zoinist act.building with 20000 tonnes of steel cannot fell in 57minutes.a passenger plane cannot dodge 62 best fighters of world on pentagon,walk on runway and disapeared with passengers after killing 400 working inside.use your mind.regarding 7/7 owners of courier companies in london are mostly jews.poors young lads were not knowing what they were carrying,one of them was recent convert had 3 months baby.26/11was joint operation of rss and cia.

    islam is peaceful religion muslims are victims of international terrorism.
    power is only awnser.weak is always bad.ghussa hamesha weak par ata hai.now isreal is defeated by arabs for 3rd time.their tone has changed.

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    engrich Reply:

    BEST TEMPLES BEST MOSQUES UNDER THE

    BEST TEMPLES BEST MOSQUES were constructed UNDER THE

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  • Bala Varadarajan

    True and well said. Now how about Islamic countries also Show tolerance and allow other religions to flourish in their lands. Please stop preaching to the civilized nations about how to practice tolerance. Please direct your comments to the uncivilized nations I.e which have Islam as the state religion. While you are at it please also command the Muslims to take back the religion from the extremist Mullahs

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    engrich Reply:

    who is not aware that todays elite uiversities in the anglo saxon world icluding
    Oxford, Cambridge and Harvard were first set up as Madrassas, the schools of
    theology? The subjects of philosophy and sciences were later added as in main
    Europe from the knowledge which the Arab and jewish scholars brought

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    engrich Reply:

    True and well said. Now how about Islamic countries also Show tolerance and allow other religions to flourish in their land
    they are doing this is part of our religion.u brhmn people dont allow other religion to flourish.ashok built 60000 temples in orrisa later demolished by brmns when budhdhist become.babri demolition is latest example.even vaishlte never allow shaivite to survive.u make wrong history then use it as stick to beat others.

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  • Anon

    Chutiya — aur koi kaam nahe hai bhosdike ?

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