Trickyleaks?



In order not to be misunderstood, I’ve done a brief preamble to this week’s blog on WikiLeaks’ that have put the government in the eye of another dust storm. Here it is in bullet form:

*The US cables relating to UPA’s 2008 confidence vote have done incalculable harm to India’s image abroad;

*The Congress and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh are down in popular esteem;

*The PM’s argument that the UPA victory in the 2009 polls has settled the issue isn’t credible;

*The government must have persons quoted in the Cables probed by an independent agency;

*It must also approach the US for examining or interviewing diplomats and officials who authored the cables;

*Reports based on such inquiries under the supervision of the election commission or another credible authority be published and placed in parliament before next elections.

Other facts, no matter whether they work against the ruling party or the Opposition, need to be similarly investigated to sift the grain from the chaff. One can to some extent understand foreign office mandarins talking to their US counterparts on issues such as Iran, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Pakistan and even the appointment of Indian PR (Permanent Representative) at the United Nations.

But Hillary Clinton’s lament over Pranab Mukherjee becoming Finance Minister in place of the famously pro-US Montek Singh Ahluwalia demonstrates Washington’s vice-regal objectives in India. In that sense, the US administration treats New Delhi no different from Islamabad where it’s rumored to have intervened to ensure extension in service for the all-powerful Gen Ashfaq Pervez Kayani.

I’ve been reading closely the cables serialized by The Hindu newspaper. The substance of some such notes was borne out by subsequent events. But even then, I don’t think their strike rate is any higher than 50-60 per cent.

Officials in the US embassy are able to achieve that because of unhindered access to our civil servants, whom they often oblige with scholarships and jobs for their siblings in the US or in American trans-national corporations.

Such subversion and compromise of the ruling elite including politicos from across the spectrum —as brought out by L K Advani’s confessions on his party’s feigned opposition of the nuclear deal – has to be stemmed at the earliest.

A good beginning in that direction will be that as a country, we do not place reliance on these cables beyond a point. If played unhindered, the game could prove to be very dangerous for Indian sovereignty and the political system.

One cannot grudge the uproar triggered by India-related cables. But will it not give the CIA spymasters in Langley ideas about destabilizing governments by simply writing cables and leaking them to the local media?

There cannot in fact be a more cost-effective way of creating political ferment against unfriendly regimes. Or at least weaken them through motivated propaganda. Only a close look at the fall-out from these leaks will reveal the tricky part that can cost the country dear in the longer run.

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  • Rajiv

    May be for the 1st time, I agree with all the comments ( in the highlighted section only ) by Mr Vinod Sharma, on the wiki-leaks on Indian government. Regarding BJP’s public and private stand on the nuclear deal, its no surprise. BJP’s double speak on the nuclear issue was pretty evident even then and came as a disappointment to many.

    However it should not be confused with the serious economic and parliamentary crimes alluded and alleged to have been conducted by UPA in the 2008 trust vote.

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    Daisy Boy Reply:

    The problem as I see it is very serious – we have lost our sovereignty to certain extent – I don’t mean to sound alarmist. There are the interests of big business – and local big boys certainly have interests all over the world. Its an open market, so the big boys from the USA too are in the hunt in our country. The US govt certainly would protect their interests globally, so to in India. This is, in other words, economic imperialism – no need to physically occupy a large and unruly place like India anymore – leave that to the natives. So big business it is – whether India or US – who rules the roost. The politician or the political party or even the govt is but a gate-keeper for big business.

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    james Reply:

    Day after day, this government is rocked by some issue or the other, most humiliating being P J Thomas issue. I am sure every true blooded indian is mighty upset. But I can tell you, we can take all these scams and live with our furstrations. What we cannot live with are your totally silly and stupid justifications in favour of Congress day in day out, especially on Arnab Goswami show. You must know this – sawan ke andhe ko hara hara hee dikhta hai. You seem like a person who lost his sight and mind when he saw and heard something good about Congress. And thereafter, cannot see or understand anything against congress. Very very disappointing. I am sure, I am echoing sentiments of many who watch you on TV every day. But then, what else can we expect from some one associated with totally discredited and biased newspaper like HT

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  • vijay kumar

    The basic issue is Munni and Manmohan should not keep shouting “we are innocent… we are innocent…”

    Darlings, all the world knows Satish Sharma is your errand boy and not Yedurappa’s. And he would have thrown the cash to savce you and get his pound of flesh and not out of altruism or love for Chacha Nehru’s name… :D :D

    So resign before a Mubarak or gadaffi happens in India… :D

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    Col KMS Sahasi Reply:

    Nothing is so foolish, Yaddurappa’s chamchas are many in IT industry and vijay kumars all over. It is the time will show what good Manmohan Singh did what 7 years of BJP rule under Atal Bihari Bajpayee could not achieve. Despite India shining, poor guys bite dust at the hustings.
    Alas! This time kuber mahajn is no more available. He made crores and left it for his drug addicted son and not BJP. Sorry, Vijay contribute copiously to yaddurappa’s coffers.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Vijay

    Up against another ketchup colonel here?

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    Vijay kumar Reply:

    @ Praveen,

    Naam toh uska hai Sahasi…

    ~~~ Par Satish Sharma ke Paise se darpok ban gaya hai woh…. :D

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    A ketchup colonel
    A cash-up captain
    A pop up scandal
    A chup PM
    A gupshup media
    A tail-up opposition
    A cut-up bar maid
    And a shut up prince

    All this keeps me up and up.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    Gr8 poetry.. :D

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Col. Sahasi,

    your “saahas” in defending the indefensible Munna and Badnaam Munni is commendable. I wish you had shown the same saahas in the defence of the country, which is being looted by these Munnas and Munnis. Keep your powder dry, Colonel Saab, because much bigger battles are around the corner and you may like to defend your “leader” even after he resigns.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Shenoy Saab

    A ketchup colonel lending body cover to a ketchup PM.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shenoy Sahab;
    You are wasting your talent in retirement. Your poetry is as potent as prose. start a column or a blog. I am fond of reading and find your style very refreshing. Think seriously about it. A ketch up colonel and cash up captain— Wah!!

    V.K.CHAWLA Reply:

    @ SHENOY , DON’T BE IMPATIENT . MUNNA IS NOT GOING TO RESIGN SO EASILY . HE IS KEEPING THE SEAT WARM , ACTUALLY HIS ASSIGNED HIDDEN AGENDA , FOR A PERSON WHO IS LEARNING THE A,B, C OF POLITICS WHICH AGAIN ACTUALLY MEANS A POLITICAL IMMATURE CHILD RUSHING TO BECOME AN ADULT WITH THE HELP OF FEW BOOTLICKERS IN CONGRESS . SO WAIT FOR THAT D DAY .

    james Reply:

    This Congress government certainly deserves a Egypt on them. Alas, Indian junta is too laid back and forgiving to do it. But there must be some way to teach these crooks some lesson. Defeating them in elections cannot be sufficient punishment

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  • shikha

    Dear Vinod,

    I agree with most of your bullet points. However, we attach importance to wikileaks for several reasons-
    (1) the authenticity of cables themselves are not in question and we trust them.
    (2) No democracy likes Wikileaks and so far wiki leaks is not politically motivated. In other words leaks can damage any political party as much as Congress.
    (3) Wikileaks fills up for the lack of investigative journalism in India. Sadly sting operations happen in India only to fulfill political agendas. Why didn’t Tehelka break up any of the Congress’s colossal scams? Like it or not, very few news agencies in India can take upon Gandhi family. Is this family above law and that they do no wrong? Many of your blog readers are men and women of higher integrity , are law abiding , are self made and do not like any special status granted to any family.
    (4) Journalists, media should ponder why Wikileaks has to break such explosive news in India. In other words why do we have to depend upon wikileaks in the first place?

    Frankly wikileaks expose the diminishing standards of journalism practiced in our country, that we place our political affiliations above nation’s interests. We report news based upon what suits our political agendas. We as common people feel betrayed.

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    Saarthak Reply:

    Completely agree with you Shikha. Excellent Points. Hindustan Times and its editors have been trying their best to defend this super-corrupt and still brazen government. Till a few weeks back the defence was more overt and now its more subtle seeing how sullen the popular mood is. Like this latest blog post from Mr Sharma…

    You can make out how much biased Hindustan Times is when a news like this is not given front page coverage:

    Manmohan Singh misleading public: Julian Assange http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_manmohan-singh-misleading-public-julian-assange_1522681

    Imagine its there on almost all major news sites including The Hindu, CNN-IBN, DNA etc but I still do not see it on the HT homepage. I cancelled my HT subscription last week after being fed up of being fed more propaganda than news on the front pages. Definitely one of the best decisions of my life.

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    Kunal Reply:

    Hindustan Times is a useless newspaper. It doesn’t add any value at all. The only reason I come here is to read the comments. The commenters are much more honest and knowledgeable than the news articles or bloggers.

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    Saarthak Reply:

    @ Kunal, exactly my sentiments which I communicated to my favourite commenters here a week back!

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Shikha, Kunal, Saarthak and Anil,

    Shikha has summerised the feelings of the Mangoman excellently.

    Shri Vinod Sharma has said, “*The US cables relating to UPA’s 2008 confidence vote have done incalculable harm to India’s image abroad”.

    It is a very funny idea of India’s image abroad. Look at this:

    An ordinery bar maid born in Italy is foisted on the Indian nation at its very top, but a noble Sardar is insulted by her motherland by asking him to remove his turban for an airport check. Remember, these checks are reserved only for we miserable brown-skinned.
    The fact is we Indians are crazy about white skinned people to whom we are prepared to give our country gift-wrapped in servility.

    akhilesh Reply:

    I cancelled my subscription too

    Anil Nayar Reply:

    I think wikileaks is routine opinions of a US embassy staffer. all diplomats send cables. Surely each and every one cannot be truthful. they are just the senders views
    By the way, the wikileaks about cash for votes, is being debated, without verifying the whether the transaction is correct or not. Firstly, in one carton, no matter how one tries, one CANNOT fill notes more than Rs. 75 lakhs. So for Rs 60 crores, one will need at least 80 cartons and not one or two chests as claimed by wikileaks. Besides, counting and verifying Rs. 60 crores would take at least 8 hours by an individual.
    also conmen can make even Rs. 1000 look like crores by simply covering bundles with end notes of big denomination, and others of rs. 10 each.
    Ask BJP to fill and show Rs. 60 crores in one or two chests/ cartons to the media and confirm what it is physically possible

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  • ANIL

    Very funny!! The blogger talks about India’s image being affected abroad! Question: what understanding the Indian Govt. have of having an image? Compare to Pakistani or Bangladeshi Govt. what score you will give to Indian Govt.?

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  • http://self Dinesh N Patel

    Indian Government is JOKE.

    When you have P.M like Monmohan Singh and another JOKER Lallu Yadav, Western country will never respect India and it’s Media.

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  • gyan

    For god’s sake,at least for once, we all indian stand up on our feet and turn the heat to US.Let not our democracy get unstable by these leaks. You guys should have questioning attitude.
    Its true there has been leak, its true cable contained some info, but how do you know that the US embassy didn’t fabricate issues in the cable. Why the leak has to take place now before the elections.
    Have you guys noticed the one common denominator in all the leaks.Its US,and US. They have been raping and molesting the weak political fabric of so many countries, no body talks about the molestor, instead start fighting among themselves.How come US has not been able to take any action against Julian Asange so far.What’s the gurantee that Julian is not the creation of US.
    Whatever it is think about this: if you find, there is a bad guy in your society/community trying to trouble the women of every house in the society on a regular basis-what you should be doing? Go grab the guy together and teach him lessons, instead of starting a blame game in the society.

    Point-1: Its could be an accusation laid out in the cables from the US embassy about the indian political system. Interrogate US embassy not the PM. Catch the thief first , everything else would fall in place.

    Point-2: We know that already, lets not add this in the list of causes.

    Point-3: Determine the accuracy of the content in the cables. US embassy probably made a false accusation. There is no reason for us, the brown skins, to be subsurvient to US. We don’t have to consider the US as our truthful mentors-they are the biggest liar in the world.

    Point-4: Agreed.

    Point-5: Any investigation should start from this step.

    Congress is ******** up, we all know. But is BJP any good for India- not for sure. Whoever come to power, will keep doing the same thing. Changing the ruling party is not a solution to present crisis.
    As long as the people of india are hungry, we will have the attitude of a begger and continue to fall prey to foreign provocations. It is the people of India who needs to change not the ruling party.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    So your arguement is evenif Congress is super corrupt, we need to keep it in power.

    BJP is also corrupt but is mere pick pocketer compared to decoit and terrorist congress.

    You should have some sense of proportion.

    The typical profile of Congress supporter is-
    Corrupt or from minority or media person or to be terrorist or black marketeer or criminal or liar…
    What are you?

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  • http://- Guju

    WHO PAYS TO MEDIA HOUSES BILLIONS OF DOLLORS TO PROTECT THE TAINTED NAME OF THIS ” KHANDAANI ” RAJ ? WHAT PART AMERICAN GOVERMENT PLAYS TO INSTALL RASHOOL VINCI AS NEXT P.M. OF INDIA ? AS BABA RAM DEVJI MAHARAJ ALWAYS TELL TO THEM MASS AUDIENCE WHO ARE EAGER TO LISTEN TO HIM , THAT INDIA NEVER GOT FULL INDEPENDENT , BUT IT WAS TRANSFERE OF POWER FROM ONE LOOTER, BRITISH OR EAST INDIA COMPANY TO ANOTHER , NEHRU – FAKE GANDHI ” LAGACY .
    AS I HAVE POSTED BEFORE FEW TIMES THAT INDIAN FOREIGN AND NATIONAL POLICIES ARE FRAMED AND DICTACED BY AMERICAN LAW MAKERS AND MADMOHAN IS JUST A PUPPET CONTROLLED BY FOREIGN HIGH COMMOND .
    IT IS GREAT SHAME THAT INDIA GOT PEOPLE LIKE BHARKHA DUTT – VIR SINGHVI – VINOD SHARMA AND MANY MORE TO PROTECT THE FAMILY RATHER THAN PROTECTING THE MOTHER LAND WHICH GAVE BIRTH TO THEM AND WILL ACCEPT THERE ASHES WHEN THEY DIE.
    THIS ROYALS ARE ” HOLY COWS ” IMPORTED FROM ITALY WHO CAN HARM NOBODY – DO NO HARM OF INDIA AND ITS MASSES WHO GO TO THE BED HUNGARY IN MILLIONS . WHY SHARMA HAS NEVER MENTIONED ABOUT DR. SUBRAMANIUM SWAMY AND BABA RAM DEVJI ?
    WHAT ABOUT THEM 60% CUT FROM 2G ENDED WITH ANUSHKA AND NADIA ?
    HOW INNOCENT ARE THRALLDOM OF INDIA WHO CARE LESS ABOUT THE COUNTRY AND MORE IN CORRUPTION IN EVERY DAY LIVES.
    WE MUST SALUTE THE PEOPLE OF TUNISHIA – EGYPT – LIBYA – IRAN – SHRIA – YEMEN – BAHARAIN FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE WHERE AS SLAVES OF INDIA ARE WATCHING CONTRY BEING LEAD TO BLACK HOLE OF CALCUTTA.
    JAGO DESH WASI JAGO – DESH KO BACHAWO LOOTERE SE. DHARTI MA PUKARTI HE . JAGO

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    Vikram Reply:

    dont shout dude we can read u even with ur small type

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vikram,
    this is a good one.

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  • guest

    Well put and well written. It is a positive and objective approach which suggests action to uphold and protect the integrity and independece of India.Assange has done a service .Otherwise it will not come to light how servants of India are, putting lightly . working for others and being disloyal. True or not true, for an official to disclose or convey such info to a foreign official is scandalous. The govt.must catch the bull. by the horns and act. It must also remember leaders come and go but the countries will go on until planet earth disappears. India must remain India retaining always it’s indepence integrity and unique identity for all times.

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  • Raju Khan

    The way Indian media outrightly started defending Prime Minister . Visit any website, most of the them are defending MMS. Its blunt murder of democracy. Except few news papers which are dared to give the exact and correct analysis.

    It seems even Pakistani and Bangladeshi media is better then India !

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Have you ever wondered, has all these scams been done under BJP rule, our media would have gone ballistic?
    Where is Tehelka now?
    Saale sare media wale chor hein..

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Rajeev
    What do you do for a living sir expect for abusing mediapersons full time. You come across as a failed journo at times.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Vinod,
    I work hard for making a living..never got freebies, have worked in IT industry for close to 20 years, have been to North and South block, almost all the capitals of Indian states, worked on solution that made voter ID card possible. I am also one of the pioneers who developed POS solution for Indian and european market. I have worked with both private and govt. sector.
    I have seen journos up close and was disgusted the way they jumped on free food and free booze. Many a times, I saw them asking host to give them what they want published. The Indian media is full of Dalals…There may be some exception but you are definitely among them.
    It is beneath me to be journalist because sir, I have too much integrity in me that stops me from being Dalal of anyone.

    Rajeev Reply:

    Please read-
    “There may be some exception but you are definitely among them.”

    as

    “There may be some exception but you are definitely NOT among them.”
    :)

  • Raju Khan

    Lets fast forward for next 2 months and Congress and its allies have won all the elections, I m just thinking the content of articles they are going to write .. If they won, it means people of India don;t care about any corruption or any issue.. Then everybody should just stop writing any article. The only factor which is highly favouring congress is EVM !!

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  • Piyush

    its funny no matter wat the content of the article/blog it always turns against HT itself. It seems HT has completely lost its legitimacy. I wuld really like to kno wat HT journos feel about that. Would love some1 to write a blog on it!!! btw all country’s Gov. ploicy are governed a group of select business honchos including that of US. We in India are feeling because we are not as aggressive or ruthless as our foreign counterparts else we would’ve at ease with the whole situation.
    And I completely agree with one of the above comments on absolute lack of journalism from our news agencies.

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  • Rakesh Katyal

    Mr Sharma rather than advising the people to dump wikileaks why don’t you advise the masters in the Congress to start governing the nation rather than pocketing crores and playing subservient to US. The main issue is that rumour mongering fast establishes itself when there is government deficit. And there is plenty of deficit in the government of the day. But the journalists particularly those related to English media are busy advising the people letting the actual culprit the politician get away. Mr Sharma wikileaks is doing for us what we have not been able to do ourselves. Bring out in open the true face of our so called political leaders. Why are you grudging it. Are the journalists next in line.

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    james Reply:

    Government should give some vibushan – padam or param, what ever it is, to Mr Sharma and Abshishek Singhvi for the job that they are doing for Congress Party. At least Rajya Sabha Seat for Mr Sharma

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  • Praveen Saxena

    To quote Mr Vinod,
    “There cannot in fact be a more cost-effective way of creating political ferment against unfriendly regimes. Or at least weaken them through motivated propaganda. Only a close look at the fall-out from these leaks will reveal the tricky part that can cost the country dear in the longer run.”
    I think this view is a bit simplistic.
    If Wikileaks has drawn so much attention and not been dismissed outright even by those who have been hurt by it , is because what has come out been said is in line with popular public perception although no tangible evidence was out in the public domain.. So to say that foreign agencies can play havoc with this tool , reveals a certain lack of confidence in the maturity of the common man. Has not the RTI made a difference ?
    An open demopcracy like India will always have its shenanigans.Let us also recall the incident of Mrs Indira Gandhi sending a letter to the Soviets to direct the CPI to support her govt.
    To my mind anything which reveals and discloses does not weaken but strengthens in the long run. Falsehood will not sustain.

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    Vijay kumar Reply:

    @ Praveen,

    Mrs Gandhi would call all her opponens CIA agents !! :D

    Then one day, out of exasperation, Daniel MOynihan, the US ambassador to India revealed that the Congress itself was funded by the US. And the money had been collected by Mrs Gandhi… :D

    See this revelation of Wikileaks in the same perspective…

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    Vijay kumar Reply:

    @ Shenoy, Vinodji and Praveen,

    By the way I am pennign a new song for the next elections….

    Mannu bhai voter bhaaga

    pum pum pum !!

    ~~~ NDA jayega, Bhelpuri khayega….

    Achchi achchi sooraton se aankhe ladayega….

    ~~~ Congress ka band bajega….

    Bhum bhum bhum…..

    :D :D :D :D

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vinay Kumar
    Kavita kahna nahin hai itna aasaan
    Alfaaz korey lagten hain jab thak nahin ho unme jaan
    bhum bhum pum pum sirf aawazeen hai, shor hai
    kavita ki zameen insey kahin zayada aur kuch aur hai
    likho aisa ki shabd talwaar ho jayen
    jo padhen woh jaa nisaar ho jayen

    Rajeev Reply:

    Vinod Sharma,
    Don’t waste your time in poetry. It is better you work overtime to write articles defending mafia govt.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Rajeev;
    When you are going to change from sulphuric acid to citric acid? Vinod has given up that acidic tone, why do not you? It is the vinegar of Vijay, Shenoy and some others, which make this blog tasty.

    Rajeev Reply:

    Pankaj,
    Vinod may have diluted his sulphuric acid but his thoughts and intentions are still very acidic. He thinks Indians are fools. Even US has not challenged the truth in Wikileaks but our super duper PM has his own theory about wikileaks.
    I am sure congress is not only involved in large scale corruption but also has financed Islamic terror thru people like Balwa who are on Dawood’s payroll. The only thing that congress wants is to stay in power (this was also in wikileaks) and will do anything even finance terror (Wikileaks says it will stoop to any level).
    The journalists like Vinod are either naive or very cunning but looking at continuos shameless defence of UPA govt by Vinod, I can safely say Vinod is not naive but an insider of congress party so don’t expect truth from him. Even Barkha looks neutral compared to Vinod.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @Vinod Sharma,

    I never claimed originality on the lyrics :D They were written by Rajinder krishan for the film
    “phool khilen hai GUlshan Gulshan’, sung by Kishore Kumar and enacted by Rishi Kapoor.
    A song which was a hit for us teenagers in eighties…

    The original songs goes as below. My version for the Congress is posted above. And I sincerly feel that all of COngress can now sing my version :D :D :D

    mannubhai motor chali pom pom pom
    chowpaaty jaayenge aur bhelpuri khaayenge …

    Haath khaali aaye hai
    Aur haath khaali jayenge

    Achchi sooraton se aankhen ladyenge…
    Hulla Machayenge
    Gulla Machayenge

    Band Baaja, Baajega
    Bhum… Bhum BHum…. :D

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Rajeev, V.K.CHAWLA, James, Ankit, saxenaji,

    All of you were wondering where Tehelka is. Now it has become clear that all these days it was engaged by the congress party to do a sting on a sting. All they have come up is statements from a “former” employee of CNN-IBN, who worked directly under Rajdeep Sardesai. Rajdeep, interestingly has become the dhobi’s gadha-naa ghar kaa, naa ghaat kaa. A persona non grata for the “secular media”.

    More interestingly, the congress party has, with great alacrity, dumped Rajdeep, who, in 2008, had single handedly saved the government by not telecasting the sting operation and had given the master CD to the bosses for “tailoring”.

    Now, as if on cue (from the congress, of course), all the channels are baying for Rajdeep’s blood. Even when Sudheendra Kulkarni has been crying hoarse for the last two years that he has testified in full before the JPC and is willing to tell everything, nobody is preapred to give him a hearing. All the same every channel was loudly declaring yesterday night, that KULKARNI HAS A LOT TO ANSWER FOR!

    Also interestingly, even when the government had lost its majority in the Loka Sabha the moment the Left had withdrawn its upport, yesterday, Sibal and Manish Tiwari were busy claiming that the BJP tried to”destabilise” the congress government!!!!!!!

    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @ Mr. Shenoy
    Sir
    Let me add something more to what you said.
    It was the NDA (BJP) which came to the help of UPA when the pension regulatory bill was being introduced in the Parliament on the last day of its sitting. The speaker called for division at the instance of CPI and CPI(M) and that took Congress by surprise. Pawan Kumar Bansal rushed to Advani ji and Sushma ji for support, as otherwise, the introduction of the bill would have not taken place as most of the congress members were missing. The day was saved for Congress though the CPI was also requesting Advani ji for support. It was along pending bill to be introduced as earlier the CPI(M) was not allowing it in UPA1 regime.
    The Congress is so ungrateful to call call the actions of BJP as a destbalising the govt. I believe Advani ji should have embarrassed the govt. by either abstaining.or voting against the bill at its introduction stage. After all, the opposition is not meant to help the govt. at a critical situation, especially when the govt. will still charge the opposition for the destbalising the govt.
    BNA

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Dr.Anand,

    It has come as a great surprise to me that Pawan Kumar Bansal went to Advani and sushma Swaraj entreating for support to pass the crucial pension bill, because NOT A SINGLE CHANNEL, NOT A SINGLE NEWSPAPER HAS REPORTED THIS INCIDENT. (There may be exceptions, but I doubt it).

    This is what can be termed as the bias of the media against the BJP.

    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @ Mr.Shenoy

    Sir, this fact was carried by the print media alone. My source is only I.E., HT and TOI. I think you missed it as a matter of chance. I am sure this can be confirmed even by our esteemed Vinod Sharma ji.

    Well, the NDA(BJP) had always played politics in a positive fashion. The passage of nuclear liability bill is another example. By the way, this PF/pension regulatory bill could not be introduced in UPA 1 because of opposition from comrades. This help from BJP was acknowledged by Pranab Mukherjee when he passed on a note (of thanks) to Advani ji after the bill was introduced.
    BNA

  • Vijay kumar

    @ Vinod Sharma

    One should not take WikiLeaks with a pinch of salt and neither should we dismiss them outrightly. Some information which would normally have been hidden has come to the knowledge of the general public by accident. And we should make the most of it to improve or kick out the evil and corupt in the INdian polity.

    Like the Radia tapes, Wikileaks has given us a window of opportunity. Though it is also a sign of the weakening US power to control information.

    Should we not be ashamed that Rajiv Gandhi’s Langotiya Satish Sharma, like his earlier langotiya, Mr Q, accumaltes black and kickback money and wants to buy the Indian Parliament?

    Should we not hang our heads in shame when the PM says I am honest and I did not know anything. Then at whose behest was Satish Sharma acting? Yuvraj and Mummy? Pranabda? Chidmabran?

    Of course the COngress can suddenly turn around and say he was a solo player :D doing it for India :D

    Or blame it on Arjun Singh as he is dead. As they blamed the Anti-Sikh riots on Narasimha Rao and also the escape of Warren Anderson…

    Yes, we don’t have to cow down before the US and have an independent foregin policy. Neither do we need to have an inferiority complex in front of CHina as our lefties want us to. Or have an inferiority complex in front of Jehadis(for having pure blood) as some of our so called motivated leaders like Antulay and Digvijay want us.

    :D :D :D IT HAS TO BE INDIA FIRST AND INDIA LAST… :D :D :D

    By the way trying to divert attention to BJP will only further deliver a donkey kick on the COngress face. Wikileaks shows that BJP had a different public and provate stance on the nuclear deal. HOWEVER BUYING VOTES WITH KICKBACK AND BLACK MONEY– as the CONGRESS was doing, is infintely more evil…………… :D

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  • Mohan Ramchandani

    Intersting article about how US trying to manipulte social media.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks

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  • ats

    @Vinod…Why we should NOT rely on cables ? They are third party high level, confidential and offical assessments between US Amb. and Secy. State Departrment based on the factuals to which the Amb. is exposed. The Amb. gains nothing by misreporting ? besides in US they still have values and standards in public offices- and an Ambassador sending faltu ki gup shup to his boss will get the boot – possibly end of his/her public career. Remember there is always solid check on state dept by the Pentagon – infact you would agree as in Pak , there are many Raymond Davis in India also.

    Montak ( Monty in US circles) is a known world bank /US man in india. Now watch out for Sibal- this guy will be right “up” there soon with the help of his US / harvard connections.

    Man to watch ..SoniaG…..Sibal

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  • http://- Rajeev

    Vinod,
    Wikileaks show us how incompetent our media is…The revelation from wikileaks should have ideally come from Indian media..where are your sting operations against congress? Where is that Tarun Tejpal? Can he see 2G scam?
    You all are on congress payroll which is why you have dumped investigative journalism and picked up psychophantic journalim.
    The true journalism is dead in India and this is why we trust Wikileaks..Do your job with honesty and we will trust you too..till then look inward and change.

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    V.K.CHAWLA Reply:

    TEHLAKA ; DO GAJJ JAMEEN KE NEECHE . THAT WAS FOUNDED FOR A DAY OR TWO FEW YEARS AGO FUNDED BY ILL GOTTON MONEY OF CONGRESS . BUS AFTER THAT PHUSSSSSSSSS

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    james Reply:

    Let some small issue happen in Gujarat – immdtly, Tarun Tejpal and his cohorts get active

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Tehelka Joker Tarun Tejpal is back in circus with sting op on opposition ;)
    This guy is truly amazing..why doesn’t he do sting on Rahul and Digvijay who have been supporting LeT and IM terror against India..he wouldn’t because he is on their payroll just like minion sharma.

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  • Pankaj#1

    @ Rajeev
    I know Rajeev that everyone who writes here opposing Vinod has interests of india at his/her heart. I also find it galling to find people like balwa, sadik batcha etc have started playing not in hundreds of millions of rupees but have become a threat to national security. Who has allowed things to go down to this level, of course, congress and people who practice politics san principles and ideology. People, occupying positions of power, what they have done for community or nation ?, nothing, but enjoying cream of a defective democratic system of patronage and votes.
    Having said this, I would like to see Vinod, defeated at his own game of creating web of words, only to get entangled in it. we can use valid arguments and defeat him in his own game of verbal jugglery. I would still like to see him, lost for words rather than calling him names. nothing personal, just my opinion.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Pankaj,
    Just watch the debate that I have posted below. This country is full of hypocrites like Mani Shankar. The only language they understand is kick in their rear. Truly disgusted at Mani’s behaviour.
    Our Mr.Sharma is exactly like Mani Shankar in all his debates. This country is being mortgaged by these psychophants.

    However I agree Vinod has become more civillized and this will be reciprocated by me till he deserves that civility.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks Rajeev.

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    james Reply:

    Rajeev and Panakaj….You may probably know that both Vinod Sharma and Mani Shankar Aiyar have spent number of years in Pakistan. It seems, they must have attended Friday prayers in mosque quite often. Style and content of debates of Aiyar and Sharma are that of Mulla preaching after Friday prayer – fulll of meaningless and stupid rants, delivered in provocative manner

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Rajeev
    Pl be your real self — with all the manufacturing defects :) ) Civility wouldn’t come to you that easily. There are some who are destined to belch all there life.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Look who is talking..a man with grey hair, who lies thru the teeth, accepts low IQ Rahul as his master and is a paid journalist.
    This poor guy is toiling hard to get noticed by dynasty so that he too can get some padma awards. I wish this poor shameless soul luck.

    Rajeev Reply:

    Sharmaji,
    I don’t get free money, booze etc. like you to belch..You have been belching non-stop on all TV debates and even smiling while belching. This is truly a talent..belching while smiling and lying.

    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Rajeev
    Your responses to my remark only prove that you can only belch…besides a swollen head you have a swollen stomach….bad digestion, bad thinking, bad grooming. What a lout you are! With all these defects you can only be sold at factory price. But there aren’t any buyers. Choooo sorry i feel for you belchy.

  • http://- Rajeev

    Vijay,
    Mani Shankar the windbag debated during India today conclave… Just listen to this scumbag..
    http://conclave.intoday.in/videos/india-today-conclave-2011-praful-patel-says-politics-is-a-reflection-of-society/3152/37/60/0.html

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Man, this guy Mani Shankar is bafoon..He made a fool of himself. A$$HOLE.

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  • nirav

    Untill Indian media is completely sold out for cheap pennies and awards,this country will continue to go to dogs like the gandhi family and its cooks and lickers…
    Looks at our esteemed media panel..
    1)Rajdeep sardesai– one who cheated country by hiding the cash for vote sting and was sold for a padma award
    2)Barkha— sold her soul for penny to congress-radias and ISI when she exposed the army and commando location in Kargil and 26.//11 and now anti india in Kashmir with a pro **** husband
    3)Prabhu chawla- Completely stripped off in radia tapes
    4)Vir sanghvi— rightly lost for being a shameless pimp
    5)Vinod sharma– laughs at congress scams ,amused by poverty and smiles shamelessly on debates and defends the gadhis like their sweepers and sweeps their crimes..
    6)Duleep padgaonkar – sold long back and now awarded for a picnic to kashmir
    7)Prannoy roy– known leftist and now pro congress

    Vinod sharma is calling wiki leaks as tricky leaks(cheap poetic skills)…
    But what was he and his media people doing till now…why didnt a single piece of investigative journalism venture in the cash for vote scam?????
    Cash for votes and cash for news….dont know which is a bigger scam here,.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @nirav
    I pity you for the venom you hold against people you haven’t ever met. May god save you from your own self.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    There is no need to meet low-lives, listening to their biased views is enough.

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  • Vijay Kumar

    @ Rajeev,

    Mani Silencer Aiyar is a Shakesperean joker with an exgaterated sense of self importance. His attitude is simple. — Thum saala Indian, Doon, Stephens or Oxford jaisi angrezi bol sakta hai…?

    And he now basically impresses failed IAS aspirants or networkers from his alumini associations. Aiyar got his break because Rajiv Gandhi was from Doon and also in Oxford (or some other UK college).

    Aroon Purie invites Mani “silencer” as both are from Doon. Sagarika and Barkha invite him to their show because of the St Stephens connection.

    A thoroughly hollow man, he is capable of infliciting a huge amount of damage to India. A huge failure as our Counsel General in Islamabad where could not detect the terrorist training Evil cobra Gen Zia was imparitng to insurgents in Punjab and Kashmir, Aiyar downplays the Pakistani threat as he is afraid of the terrorists putting him on the hit list. :D :D

    However the NDA must thank this loudmouth. For had not the Silencer mega failed as a sports Minister, all these scams would not have come out!! :D :D

    So Mani Silencer Aiyar may well be a Shiv Sena Agent for all we know !!! :D :D

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar
    Stop behaving like a sockpuppet unless you are actually one. The Mani-Jaitley debate was the highlight of the India Today Summit. Pl stop this telescopic analysis that is often way off the mark.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Vinod,
    You are right that it was highlight but the thing which was most highlighted was Aiyar’s rudeness and utter hypocrisy (1984 riots and he has no clue if DMK bribes voters).
    These kind of people should be deposited in mental asylum for good.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Rajeev
    I have a request. Pl don’t address any queries to me because I do not intend engaging with you.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Vinod Sharma,

    Sir, you would agree that Mani Shankar tries to bulldoze and bully people by temper tantrums and his rather pedantic English. I humbly request that you should look into the core of this hollow man and not get swayed by his English.

    He was a failure in Pakistan; a super failure as Sports Minister. And now because of him the COngress will fail to impress all Indians.

    By the way your hero had alsmost joined the BJP in 1999, when the COngress lost and had sidelined him. Wha do you have to say about that?

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    Rajiv Reply:

    Mani Shankar is an outright idiot. Not sure how much Karunanidhi-Jayalalitha-RajniKant lineage contributes to it.

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    Ankit Reply:

    I agree. Remember a time not too long ago when Aiyar indignantly told a news channel that the cornerstone of India’s foreign policy should be the 1980s resolution for universal disarmament from nuclear warheards. There is no doubt that any person remotely familiar with foreign policy would be laughing his brains off at this. If you thought dinosaurs got extinct millions of years ago, you were wrong since at least one still exists.

    Considering Mr. Sharma believes in astrologers predicting earthquakes and peddles wikileaks as some kind of conspiracy, one should not be surprised that one dinosaur has so much admiration for another.

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    Dear Shri Vinod Sharma,

    I read your blog, “Trickyleaks” twice and with great care.
    I have a few comments to make, with your kind permission.

    1. Contrary to what the PM has claimed, the Wikyleaks are verifiable, substantiable and as per Robert Mulford, true.

    2. When Raul Vinci Maino Baba made the claim that “Hindu terror is a great danger to India and LeT is harmless in copmparison to Hindu terror” to the American Ambassador and it came back to us via the Wikyleaks, neither Raul Vinci Maino, nor Maun Mahaan Singh, nor even Digvijay Fake Mentor Singh claimed that the leaks are all false and unverifiable. Why, then, now the PM is claiming to the contrary?

    3. Is he, by going against Raul Vinci, showing to the world that he is no longer ‘His Madam’s Voice’? Is he becoming a rogue PM, no longer under leash of the palace?

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  • Vijay Kumar

    @ Vinod Sharma,

    In contrast to the COngress, who have paid hundreds of crores of Kickback money to stay in power, one person seems a beacon of honesty; In contrast to Munni and Manmohan, one person does not indulge in lies, does not promote dynastic rule, does not use police and tx authorities to harass the innocent and cover the thousands of crores looted from the poor farmers and people of India.

    Don’t you feel that you should, for the sake of India, now promote this person, instead of shouting out in favour of the chors and dakoos in the Congress? Sir, I think you should request Munni, Yuvraj and the thousands of Congressis to take training under this person to improve thier character :)

    And this one person is Narendra Modi !

    This is what Wikileaks reveals., quoting US embassy officials.

    “Mr Owen praises the Chief Minister, stating, “Modi has successfully branded himself as a non-corrupt, effective administrator, as a facilitator of business in a state with a deep commercial culture, and as a no-nonsense, law-and-order politician …

    Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/us-knows-i-am-incorruptible-modi-on-wikileaks-93388?cp

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar
    Certificates by diplomats don’t impress me at all — no matter who’s the recepient

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vinodji,

    aap ko “impress” karne ke liye hum kiss kiss se certificate layen?

    How about politicians like Sonia Gandhi, Obama, Clinton, or even Rahul Gandhi, with whom even the American ambassador loves to share chai-paani, nimboo sharbat etc?

    Or business lords like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet or our own Narayan Murthy, Ratan Tata, Ambani, Bajaj, Azim Premji?

    Or even Suhail Seth? Or better still, maulana Vastanvi?

    The choice is yours. A Certificate or even a Tamrapatra will be no problem.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    Aap ko certficate ki kya problem hai janaab. Kahin sey bhi mil jayega—- Narenbhai se, Seshadhiri Chari se, Javerdekar se, Advani se, Jaitely sey. Ye sab wikileaks ke hero hain tou phri aake bhi hongen he. :) )

    Rajeev Reply:

    For Vinod certificates coming from Sonia and Rahul matter most…

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Vinod,
    Did you not jump with Joy when US denied visa to Modi? Did you get impressed with that certificate?

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Vinod Sharma,

    Why was the Congress crowing when the right wing US press praised Rajiv Gandhi in the eighties. And the Congress laughs with joy with the certificates the former British foreign secretary gave Yuvraj???

    Is there some sort of jealousy that the lovers of Congress have whistled at Modi??? :D :D

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Vinod asked me why I don’t respect him? I challenged him to show me one piece from him critical of congress, he ducked that REQUEST and turned hostile towards me. I guess a neutral journalist praises and criticises everyone based on issues but in the case of Vinod, he could not produce even a single article that is remotely critical of Nehru-Gandhi dynasty.

  • Vijay Kumar

    :D :”D :D BREAKING NEWS :D :D :D BREAKING NEWS :D :D :D BREAKING NEWS :D :D :D

    ~~~~ :D :D ~~~~~~ :D CONGRESS DITCHES MOST LOYAL NEWSMEN :D ~~~~~~~ :D :D ~~~~

    Let this be a lesson to all newspeople and journos who are doing ji huzzori and boot polishing of the COngress in the hope of getting some gravy.

    Poor Rajdeep Sardesai helped the Congress immensly by suppressing the sting operation when Congress distributed Kala Dhan ( black kickback money collected through kickbacks and fleecing the farmers) to cling to power. Yes Mahatma Gandhi’s party had been bought down to zero level by the Yuvrajs and Satish Sharmas who would do anything for the kursi.

    Today the very Congress has now accused its benefector Rajdeep Sardesai of setting up a fake string operation along with the BJP !!!

    Wah !! Wah !! WAAH !! Vafadari ka jawaab ek thapad se mila !!! :D :D :D

    My God all the journalists who streaked all over India when Tehelka gavve one lakh in a fake sting operation are stragely silent….

    VINODJI I think you should also draw some conclusions from the treatment COngress is giving Rajdeep.

    By the way the title of your last blog is strangely Haunting now …. Kahaan Gaye woh Log ….. ????????????? :D :D :D

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    Rajeev Reply:

    We may soon see IT-Raids on CNN-IBN? Even CBI will knock on CNN-IBN door if Rajdeep doesn’t apologise to Queen bee ASAP. Time is running out for Rajdeep..Italian Mafia is ruthless.

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  • Praveen Saxena

    Vijay ,Shenoy Saab
    For the Congress party now it is neither” wikileaks” nor “tricky leaks” but “cant plug my leaks”. To hold the leaks they have are now relying on Tehelka. Rightly so ,as that piece of paper is fit only for wiping the leaks. (Remember that DAVP advt on public health and sanitation which they would telecast just before 9 pm prime time news.)

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Man Mohan Singh will be declared, at the next CNN-IBN conclave as “THE BEST LEAKPROOF PRIME MINISTER” in the whole world, much ahead of Sarkozi and Berlusconi (Sonia Gandhi may object to this comparison).

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Now is there any doubt that Tehelka is owned by Congress? This Tarun Tejpal guy is no better than Kasab. If you look closely UPA especially Congress, Indian Media are firmly aligned with Pakistan, ISI, LeT, IM and SIMI against majority.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Shenoy,

    Sir, why not a poem from you on the state of this evil, sold out and sycophantic dynasty worshipping government? I am giving you the first line as a cue. Just imagine Yuvraj and Mummy singing this, standing next to Satish Sharma and Mr Q, both with bags full of kickback money…

    ” Vote ke armaan aansuon mein beh gaye…..” :)

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    A small time shaayar that I am, I am facing a small ‘writer’s block’ temporarily. I am also very sad by the media’s duplicity and volte face. Therefore, let me recall what Saigal sang in Shah Jehan:

    जब दिल ही टूट गया, जब दिल ही टूट गया
    हम जी के क्या करेंगे, हम जी के क्या करेंगे
    जब दिल ही टूट गया – २

    उलफ़त का दिया हमने, इस दिल में जलाया था – २
    उम्मीद के फूलों से, इस घर को सजाया था – २
    इक भेदी लूट गया, इक भेदी लूट गया
    हम जी के क्या करेंगे, हम जी के क्या करेंगे
    जब दिल ही टूट गया

    (मालूम ना था इतनी, मुश्किल हैं मेरी राहें
    मुश्किल हैं मेरी राहें ) – २
    अरमां के बहे आँसू, हसरत ने भरीं आहें – २
    हर साथी छूट गया, हर साथी छूट गया
    हम जी के क्या करेंगे, हम जी के क्या करेंगे
    जब दिल ही टूट गया

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Shenoy and Vinodji

    Wah Sir Wah !! The right song for the occasion !

    Vinodji, what do you think about this. C’mon Vinodji, ditch the sinking ship of the Congress! Like the generals of Gadaffi, eloping, you should also defect and join the people of India against this corrupt and crooked govenrment which bendsd before the LeT….

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Praveenji,

    The Italian joker Berlo certainly leaks… but in a different way!

    One good thing though is that Berlosconi’s deviant behaviour has taken the sheen of goras and their worshippers. Nobody falls for the spin that only goras can control unruly Indians since they are principled…. :D

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  • http://- Rajeev

    Just watched Timenow debate on wikileaks and once again Vinod Sharma outperformed Abhishek Manu Singhvi.

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    ram Reply:

    vinnu is paid three times that of abhi “shake”

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  • http://- Rajeev

    Here are some comments from that debate…I guess many people see thru lies of Vinod Sharma…

    anil, dubai, says:23 Mar 2011, 1428 hrs IST why that congress pimp vinod sharma smiling sarcastically. what is so funny about this debate. He has nothing to say in defense so he decides to laugh like an idiot. sycophency has killed all his senses apart from loyalty to congress

    jayant, uk, says:23 Mar 2011, 0954 hrs IST arnob modi was denied a visa only once…and u lie that it was again and again just like u lie about bjp congres deal on JPC and u lied that sushma did not dissentagainst cvc..congress scoundrel posing as media u hid radia tapes and all scams…u r a ******* ******* produced by muslim sperm in an adulterous hindu woman…only dimwits will be fooled by ur acting on tv…right wing terror go watch ur wife being fucked by amuslim like u r mom was and conceived u…only india can produce scoundrel media like u on payroll of congress…and doing double role..ashole why dont u interview sonia and rahul..

    ewerth tom, delhi, says:23 Mar 2011, 0733 hrs IST Two life time pro congress journos,one congress spokesman against one BJP and one Communist ,fantastic Arnab that is how you trying to fool public.The media in India should admit that they are worst than Door Darshan of Indira and Rajeev Era.

    hari, mumbai, says:23 Mar 2011, 0559 hrs IST Can Vinod Sharma wipe the fake smug smile on his face? Why was he trying to divert the issue to American interests? The issue is cash-for-votes which was telecast live in 2008. The Wikileaks is only corroborative evidence. It has brought the issue back to the fore. But lets take solace in the fact that the PM is an honest man!!! So everything can be overlooked!

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    I don’t talk to sockpuppets.

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  • http://- Rajeev

    Vinod,
    Now that fixer Amr SIngh has admitted that he was involved in deal during Cash for vote episode. He also says that Congress offered to stop CBI inquiry for SP MPs votes to save UPA govt… Now this is not tricky leaks but more like UPAleak…
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-negotiated-deal-on-instructions-of-Mulayam-Amar-Singh/articleshow/7772542.cms

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  • shikha

    Given the manner in which CNN IBN had become vocal against UPA scams I knew this was coming..
    See Times Now sullying CNN IBN and guess who is the witness here..The channel of “highest integrity” & “independent” Tehelka.
    http://www.timesnow.tv/INDIA/Collusion-India-wasnt-told-about/videoshow/4368598.cms

    Ever tried Tehelka.com It appears that life is as usual.. Govt is having a smooth sail..and mind you there is no trace of scams. They are the kind of people who feel threatened by internet blogging, wikileaks because the latter empowers common man. Until now the govt dictated what we should hear and read by manipulating media.

    It is not that internet is free of evils but there is no denial that it is has provided avenues for freedom of expression of common people. So go.. use it constructively !!

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    Ankit Reply:

    Shikha, I agree with you that we have to use internet constructively. Remember, it was a relentless campaign on the internet that brought focus on the corrupt media people involved in radiatapes. We saw the results : one disgraced journalists, on whose nakshekadam this blogger is going, was fired from HT, another lost his job at a weekly and the disgraced tv anchor is continuing shamelessly.

    Speaking truth to power on the internet will not help you get foreign jaunts, or padma awards or even membership of commissions, but it may lead to some positive change. The corrupt and the compromised in the establishment media will certainly resist it, but we have to carry on.

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    shikha Reply:

    Ankit , change is happening. As an example consider last election. Questioning Manmohan Singh or calling him a “weak PM.” was tantamount to blasphemy in media circles. Isn’t it ironical that all the scams that rolled out of PMO happened in the last UPA term. So calling him a weak PM even in the last election stands vindicated. The same media is now forced to discuss PM’s conduct, even if that is a face saving act. I see this as a huge step forward.
    A caution though that change is going to be gradual. Honestly I am not hopeful that UPA shall be voted out of power in the next election. Gandhi family is extremely powerful and enjoys huge amt of wealth and connections. Congress run Tehelka shall stay. HT and TOI shall also survive. However, a parallel source of information shall emerge. Common man shal atleast have a choice.
    As more and more youth get educated they shall excercise better judgement when voting instead of blindly voting for the dynasty rule, caste and religion.
    Internet journalists are truely independent journalists. They write exactly how they view the world without any pressure.

    In the end I want to thank Mr. Sharma that he does not censor our comments!!

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Shikha,

    both your comments hereabove are well thought out, cogent, hard hitting even while being polite to a fault.

    The so called main stream, secular media is already trooping back into the congress camp with just a sting operation by–of all people– Tehelka. They are already regretting and are contrite about all the bashing they have been indulging against the paragon of virtues- the Leakproof PM. Mind you, amidst all the PM bashing that was going on, the same media had not uttered one single word, said not a single thought against the Sonia-Rahul combine.

    The media yesterday night even established that the PM won a majority all by himself and the BJP, tried to “destabilise” the government!!!!

  • Vijay Kumar

    ~~~:( :( ~~~ WHY THE ENGLISH MEDIA WILL NEVER SUPPORT THE NDA ~~~:(:( :( ~~~

    This is an analysis based on my interaction with many a media men and a few girls in the media.

    So i request that everyone should read this and not have any high expectations from our English print and electronic media.

    There is a club of Indians, who have studied in English medium public schools, gone to elite colleges like St Stephens, oxoford etc and walked, talked, eaten and excreted, English. For them being called a “******* or a Fu_ _ _ _D C_ _ _ in English is an honour and a laugh. For example Vir Sanghvi in the Radia tapes keeps saying Fu_ _ _ _ as a matter of routine.

    However if you were to use the same slangs in Hindi in front fo them, eyebrows will get raised and you would be called locals, bhaiya and paathshala types :D

    Sexual and lifestyle mores in this group are certainly free compared to rest of India.

    How do I know this? Well I am from a so called elite school and college and hang out with this type of group many a time ! :D

    On an earlier day, people who were so privelaged would join the IAS ( because of better English) or otherwise inherit their father’s business. Or become the inheritors of a political dynasty.

    To this group, a clampdown on drinking and dating is anthema; some our scared that the reappeal of the gay laws would put a curb on their activities. (they are many a gay men and women in the media) :D :D :D

    To top it all alcohol and rum are the oxygen of media people !!

    So a nationalist party which can put a curb on late drinking or be excessively moralistic should not expect any favours form the English media… :D :D :D

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    Anil Nayar Reply:

    what a sweet and innocently dumb analysis!! NDA is not favoured by the people(they got far less seats in this election) because it has no vision for a modern state. It is too steeped in last century’s medieval thoughts of razing masjids and creating riots. NDA has to reinvent itself to a 2011 era party. Besides it has no charismatic leaders. gadkari spent 100 crores on his sons wedding, inviting lakhs of people, flying in private planes. That is outright denigrating the poor of this country

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Anil Nayar,

    U may find the analysis dumb, but if I were to go about what you say here are some of the things the media must be doing !!

    Vir Sanghvi : I believe in a modern India so I must write what Radia dictates to me about
    the telecom policy :D

    Barkha Dutt : Oh I think NDA razes mosques, so I must talk to Ghulam Azad and pass in
    Kanimozhis message to include the DMK ministers of choice… :D :D

    Prabhu Chawla : The NDA does not have charismatic leaders so I must scratch my bald
    head and come up with an idea for Radia on how to influence the judiciary
    :D :D

    Tehelka team : Oh the NDA creates riots … let us prove by shouting out MODI modi modi
    and even supply call girls to the army and seduce them so as to make them
    look rotten… some muck will surely rub on Vajpayee. Yes the one lakh we
    gave to Bangaru is rishwat… but when satish sharma, mummy and Amar
    Singh gives black money…. that is amrit…:):)

    Anil Nayarji… I can go on and on !! I believe you now…

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Anil Nayar,

    You are right. All the forward looking, “vision” people are in the congress. Which is why Jawaharlal Nehru gifted a third of the Indian state of J&K to Pakistan in 1948. This, after giving all the help to the MuslimLeague of Jinnah to first create Pakistan. Because of his great forward looking vision, India lost its war to China in 1962 and again he gifted 25,000 Sq.miles of Indian land to his “bhai, bhai” China.

    His daughter, Indira Gandhi, another visionery, raised the income tax rate to 97%. Because of her great vision, she created a Frankenstein called Sant Bhinderanwale. And to kill this Frankenstein, she razed the living temple of the Sikhs, the Golden Temple. The BJP people specialise in razing to ground only dilapidated, dead, disputed structures like Ram Janmabhoomi-Babri Musjid.

    Her son Rajiv Gandhi, another truly great visionery, created the bhoot called the LTTE, who in a return of compliments, had him destroyed by a human bomb.

    Now, we have the comic spectacle of his son, the yuvaraj, who doesn’t know LeT from petty robbers.
    And, take my word, Anil Nayar, India is going to go places under this fourth generation visionery from the fake Gandhi dynasty.

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    Mahesh Reply:

    @Shenoy (While I am addressing you – this question is equally addressed to others on this forum),
    I have a basic question for you – did it ever occur to you that both BJP and Congress might just be different aspects of the problems plaguing our political process ? I am curious how and why you guys can choose to become politically reductionist limiting the choice to between Congress and BJP. (Maybe I should make myself clear by saying Congress and BJP camps).
    BTW, it is not just about you. Even the left of center folks have rather fallen in line with this reductionism and chosen Congress as lesser of two evils – eventuallly ending up defending congress.
    That said – despite several of Nehru’s follies (certain degree of naivete in chinese conflict included) he (and several of his contemprories – Mahatma Gandhi, Sardar Patel et al) stilll stands tall way much above the current dwarfs that pass on as people’s representatives.
    In case you are curious – you may start small by trying to dig further by researching – say – about agricultular policies of BJP and Congress (mostly at central level). Quelle surprise – you would be looking with askance about the difference – lest you move beyond the randomness of statements emanating from leaders and so called “think tanks” that pass on as wisdom and policy statements..
    Cheers,
    Mahesh.

  • B.V.SHENOY

    Rajeev, Vijay Kumar,

    the only person in this whole world who can do ‘doodh ka doodh aur paani ka paani’ is Rajdeep Sardesai, because it was he who had “censored” the CD of the sting before it was shown to the speaker of the Lokasabha after several days. By that time he had made dhoodh ka chai and paani ka sharab. Now if he has any conscience, he should expose the real expose’ and fix the fixers. Will he or won’t he?

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    So far we have been witness to Manmohan Singhs’s abject negligence towards his responsibilities as PM of India, complete betrayal of trust and respect shown towards him by the people of this country, lack of moral courage in accepting the responsibity towards the loot of taxpayer’s money during his governance, shamelessnes in trying to absolve himself of all moral responsibility , his complicity in trying to compromise and sabotage the sanctity of High Constitutional Offices . Now we have also witnessed his perverted sense of humour , by resorting to cheap theatrics by hurling barbs at LK Advani , and attempting to divert the attention of the people from the actual subject of the debate.
    What more are we all destined to see?

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Dear Praveen Saxenaji,

    Even while trying to reply to Vinod Sharma’s biased views and trying, also to slip in, pieces of poetry, I still spend a lot of time on my work, which, incidentally, is full time, 24/7, as it is my own business.

    But, look at our PM, Shri Maun Mahaan Singh. When on rare occasions he opens his mouth, he sings Urdu couplets casting covetous glances at Sushma Swaraj. But, the rest of the time he spends in thinking of ways to please the Ghandys. Where, then, will he find time to run the government? He also knows that far from running, this government is not going anywhere, because it is paralysed. He himself keeps forgetting what he said three hours earlier.

    But, even in the midst of this increasing forgetfulness, one thing he never forgets is to show gratitude to the media, particularly Tehelka, Hindustan Times and NDTV, because these are the media outfits which have kept him in his place with their unstinted support.

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  • Vijay Kumar

    @ Praveen

    The pity is that so many jokers and dunces in the press and Congress who laughed when he said that “Advani thinks that it his birthright to be the PM” have no problems when it comes to saying that only a member of the Nehru Gandy parivar can become a PM because of birth copyright !! :D

    Among them is the loudmouth “Silencer” Aiyar who coined up the term TINA — there is no alternative to the Nehru family !!! :D :D :D

    Why?? Because chamchagiri and sycophancy is the only thing they know. And through chamchagiri, bottomlicking and lies they get kickback money, Rajya Sabha nominations and what not !!! :D

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  • Vijay Kumar

    ~~~ :D :D :D ~~ TIME FOR COMIC BREAK ~~ ::D :D :D

    As I watch the Indian Australia cricket match, I can hear Dr Narottom Puri recognise Narendra Modi among the spectators. Now be sure of one thing. — They will be shouts of Rape… rape .. rape all over.

    And…

    Dr Puri is soon going to be banned from Doordarshan. And the Star TV cameraman who focused on Modi will lose his job !! :D :D

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Dr. Narottam Puri was and still is one of the finest, most knowledgeable, TV anchors. It would be a pity if he were banned for merely spotting Narendra Modi in the crowd. But Dr. Puri can take heart from the fact that he will be in the famous company of Kishore Kumar, another victim of congress high handedness.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Shenoy Saab, Vijay

    Just to recall , Dr Narottam Puri’s father Late Dev Raj Puri was also a popular Cricket Commentator during the late 60s and early 70s . Dr Narottam Puri’s weekly programme on Sports on Sundays on Doordarshan was also extremely popular. Dr Puri was considered almost a computer with all the sports statistics he had on his finger tips.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Vinod,
    FYI. This Ravi is biggest fan of Ram Autar. You can easily guess why???

    ram Reply:

    i think VINNU shud work for anti-nationl magazine TEHALKA,
    he is spoiling the reputation of HT

    Rajeev Reply:

    Does HT have any reputation left?

  • Praveen Saxena

    Shenoy Saab, Vijay
    After all the bluff and bluster ,the Congress Party meekly surrendered and accepted 65 seats from Mamta Banerjee. Now on the face of it it is certainly Mamta’s confidence in her own self and her party , which is the reason , but dont u think this also suits the mother – son duo. The only person who can emerge as a threat to the schemes of the duo and to keep a tottering PM afloat , is Pranab Mukerjea and this way they limit his political base.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Praveen,

    Dr Puri has an ENT practice somewher in Delhi. As far as Dev Raj Puri goes… its nice to know about him, though he was not around when I started tuning on to AIR.

    @ Shenoy,

    Nice to know you do take out time for this blog despite running your business. Same is my case ! My business partners at times chide me that I should be spending more time on CAD and mail rather than netsurfing… :)

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  • Ravi

    Vinod Sharma.

    I think we share a fan.

    I think you may find the following interesting.

    Rajeev says:
    March 26, 2011 at 1:57 am
    The actual version of RAVI’s story-

    —————————————————-
    Glorious afternoon.

    It is a warm springs evening today in England. Just went out for Jumma prayers with my mentor Anjem Choudhary and absolutely loved it. Got Fed by some fanatic mullahs and was delighted to see fellow internet Jehadis. The will be counted at the next Jehadi upping.

    Enjoyed a cup of coffee and a slice of banana and Kajhoor cake, absolutely delicious. For a moment said, sod it to my diabetes. Yes, I too suffer from Diabetes just like Osama.

    As I stayed back in mosque with fellow nuts till sun slowly enet down the horizon. I tried to dazzle it with my happy smile, sadly it won. It reminded me of my brother in law’s mother (I love incest) who at this point every evening would go onto the roof and blow through her ????

    Time for next prayer.
    —————————————

    This is just parting shot from me for Ravi. No hard feelings. Be a good muslim just like Syed and Rizwan and be constructive.

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  • http://- Rajeev

    Vinod Sharma,
    You have a lifelong fan in Ravi who hates everything about India without any reason.

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  • Vijay Kumar

    ~~~:D :D :D ~~:D~~ HOW TO ENSURE A TERROR FREE WORLD CUP FINAL ~~:D~~:D:D:D ~~~

    As the Pakistani team come to play cricket in India, another team of Pakistanis– the murderers and jehadis– who want to kill innocents, murder women and children and laugh at bomb blasts on all religions, except fanatic Muslims, are also coming here.

    They would be possibly hidden in the hordes of spectators coming here for the big match…

    India’s free Kabab eaters, who would do anything to welcome an Indo Pak mushiara and Aman ki aasha would be standing with candles to welcome them. Has anything changed whcih made our soft hearted PM change his stance on Pakistan? Has Pakistan done any one convincing thing on the terror front. NO !! Not the least….

    In fact India has lost a lot of ground by scoring a self goal of trying to put 26/11 in the background and rushing for peace. The traitor Antulay, the evil Burney and the hollow Digviajay have only ashamed India. To top it all, the foot-in-the-mouth Yuvraj has scored the mother of all hat-tricks of self goals ! :D

    We Indians can play a trick on Pakistan. Let us extend the Visa of their PM by four days to make him stay here till the 2nd April, world cup final….

    And in case the LeT , ISI or Pakistani jehadis manage a terror strike during the world cup final….

    Then…

    INDIA SHOULD STRAIGHT AWAY PUT THE PAKISTANI PM IN TIHAR JAIL !!!

    and not leave him till

    LAKHVI, HAFEEZ SAEED AND THE ISI HEAD ARE SENT TO INDIA !!! :D :D :D

    What an idea, Sirjee !! :D D:D :D
    : :D :D :D :D

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Just as they didn’t give a damn for Benazir’s life, Jeelani or Zardari are worth zilch in the eyes of the Pakistani nation.

    When India held 93000 Pak soldiers captive, still we couldn’t extract even the smallest of concessions. Therefore, instead of any bargain, we will get branded another terrorist state, which is exactly what P*A*K*I*S want.

    By inviting the Pak leaders, Manmohan Singh has shown that 26/11 means nothing to us and all that we said and did was all drama.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Shenoy,

    You are right. We have insulted the sacrifices of the martyrs of 26/11.

    Years back when the Sniling cobra, dracula in bandgala– Gen Zia was sposoring terror in India, we launched operation brasstacks. And then Gen Zia came to India to wwatch a cricket match. Rajiv Gandhi shook hands with him.

    The Smiling cobra kept sponsoring terror.

    I suspect the same may happen now…

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    Hello Mr. Shenoy
    and Mr. Vijay

    I think the PM has unnecessarily and without any reason taken this step of inviting Pak. leaders for a cricket match. The unnecessary hype is being created by the media and business lobby to make a fast buck. It is pity that the brave acts of SPG are being brought to nil. I understand in the morning of the match, the PM has to inaugurate some memorial for the SPG and in the evening to watch the match with Pak leaders. That is iust a real act of blasphemy according to our moral standards.
    In the last match at Mohali., many Pakistanis had gone missing and are still untraceable. Who knows this maverick proposal of our PM may help undesirable Pakistanis to be able to get entry and do some mischief.
    It is a fact that cricket diplomacy did not work earlier and there is no chance that it will work in present times and in future. The peole of the country are really angry with Pakistan for 26/11 and let us not dilute our anger on this account.
    Gentlemen, I fully support your views in this regard.
    BNA

    vijay kumar Reply:

    @ Dr Anand

    You are right Dr sahab. The PM is indeed insulting the feelings of the common INdian. The Congress has forgotten that it won the last elections based on the hard stance it took on 26/11.

    TO add insult to injury there are reports that Aman ki aasha is now supporting an inititatve to upgrade IT services in Pakistan. WoW !! all for love of a nation which vows to destroy our freedoms, democracy, secularism…

    Congress has gone nuts. I think the Yuvraj needs a mental checkup…

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, Dr.Anand,

    if Mannu invites Clinton too to Mohali, he can have the necessary quorum for signing an agreement, in the presence of Munni, to give away the remaining part of J&K too to the Pakistanis. To celebrate the “defeat”, Mannu may beg and plead with Dhoni and company-not that they need too much of plodding to lose- to throw the match as a gesture of India’s eternal gratitude for the hand of friendship the P.A.K.I.S have condescended to grasp.

  • http://lughole.net Saarthak

    Another propaganda blog from a little known HT journo. The comments section as usual rocks there too: http://blogs.hindustantimes.com/singly-political/2011/03/25/the-tale-of-the-sting/

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    balakumaran Reply:

    Most of the jurnos at HT are like Vir only, but vinnu and rest r very smart. but vir and burka were much smarter

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  • vijay kumar

    @ Vinod Sharma,

    Sir, r u going to be there at Mohali… If u r there, would love to meet u …

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Vinod Sharma will first go to Lahore and then accompany his PM Gilani to Mohali.

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  • harun

    Vinod Sharma ,lives in his own world.In Pak we have a enemy who is out to destroy our country.This just not a case of squabbling siblings but 2 Nations which are destined to keep away from each other.We have far too many issues to be worked out,rampant corruption,a honest PM but a ineffective Leader,Oppurtunists in BJP who are willing to divide the Nation for power and Growing divide between the have and have nots.Vinod please stop writing on this issue.

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  • Vijay Kumar

    :( :( ~~~ :( :( ~~~ :( :( WHY I WILL NOT GO TO MOHALI :( :( ~~~ :( :( ~~~~:( :(

    Despite having managed to get tickets for this “mother of all cricket contests” through cousins in Chandigarh, I have decided not to go there.

    Why?

    if it were just about a tough world cup semi final with Pakistan, I would have loved to be there.

    But …

    Now this is a matter of shame which all tearful track II types and Wagah candle vendors have converted into a story of two brothers hugging each other again. And the villian of the show is somehow India, while Paklistan seems to have condesceneded to come here. Gilani, pads up, Gilani is thinking about the Indian PM’s invitation, etc etc sort of nonsense …

    Oh ! What a farce …

    Has Pakistan moved one inch on 26/11? NO!! :(
    Has it done enough to rein in its terrorists, capture Hafeez Saeed, kill jehadis ? NO !! :(
    Has it left its claim on Indian Kashmir ? NO ! ! ! :( :(
    Has it bombed the terror camps of Lashkar and Jaish in POK ??? NO !! :( :(

    Then why are we having this kabab party, forgetting the scrifices of our NSG and army?
    Just because the Pakistanis have given information about a terror module (proabably ISI trained) wanting to launch an attack on the WOrld cup?

    We are destined to tbe innocent goats. This is what the soft hearted, indecisive government wants us to be….

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Vijay
    Pakistan has been very successfull in wearing out our govt , after all its tough posturing after 26/11.They know that loss of lives of ordinary Indians is very forgettable in India.They are just numbers. That our political mileu is in the grip of a VIP Syndrome. So if it is YSR s helicopter the entire armed forces , police and every arm of the state gets mobilized , but when it is ordinary sailors trapped by pirates , none have the time . That the present regime is dominated by candle lighters ,and to keep afloat ,sooner than later , something like this shall happen. So it has.
    I have always felt that Pakistan has been more succesful , in deriving the best gains out of its international diplomatic moves . Yes domestically it is a failure . That is a different story.

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    Mr. Vijay

    Sir, if you were planning to come to chandigarh, I would have liked to see you.
    The Pakistan PM is taking all the credit for having accepted Dr. MMS invitiation. In the event of his not coming, that would have been a big snub to our PM. Look a victim nation of 26/11 is caring for the crumbs from the perpetrators of that crime. The media is also excited that after all Mr. Gilani has accepted the invitation. That is indeed a pity.
    BNA

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    The media, which otherwise wouldn’t give a damn for Jeelani or Zardari is showing artificial excitement, creating all kind of silly headlines. All it wants to do is to divert public attention and opposition focus from the scams to the cricket match, so that MMS can breathe freely the clean air of Mohali at least for a day.

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  • Gautam Gulati

    Digressing from the subject.

    Is Inida/Pak semi final match fixed. Please see
    http://timesofindia.hotklix.com/link/Sports/Cricket/India-vs-Pakistan-Semi-Final-match-FIXED

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  • vijay kumar

    @ Dr Anand

    We will surely meet in Chandigarh one day!! That is the city of my birth and where my grandparents lived… :D

    @ Praveen

    We are almost foolishly falling the Yuvraj line of equating Hindu terror with Pakistani terror and then saying that the real people need to meet man to man… or some such shit. The Yuvraj has a bad teacher called digvijay.

    his father had a bad teacher in Silencer AIyar who made him shake hands with the smiling cobra Gen Zia after the cricket match in 1987.

    THOSE WHO DO NOT CARE ABOUT HISTORY … ARE CONDEMNED TO REPEAT IT !! :)

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  • Anonymous

    Now the question is “Is Sujata Anandan Corrupt?”.

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  • http://twitter.com/SelfMadeScholar The Scholar

    nice

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  • Ramesh Talwani

    RAHUL SPEAKS FROM HIS UNDERSTANDING OF MASSES,,WHO ARE NO BETTER THAN BEGGARS. RAJ THAKREY SURVIVED BECAUSE OF CONGRESS ONLY.
    AS PER HIM ALL PERSONS WORKING IN OTHER STATES ARE BEGGARS.SEE THE TRAGEDY ,A PERSON WHO IS BEGGING SUPPORT CALLS ,GIVERS -BEGGARS.
    THE WHOLE CONGRESS JUSTIFIES THE STAND OF RAUL WINCI.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JRL42KKUAFYBZSO37F3KEBLEDM Shajan

    What Rahul Gandhi said is factually correct but politically incorrect.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    So you mean to say that all migrants are Beggars..Truly a congressmen..devoid of any brain.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You mean Amitabh Bachchan is a beggar.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Casteism in India is spread and well-entrenched like TB – it will never be eradicated. What Congress has done is to exploit it in its fight against other Hindu parties. For any Hindu, what difference would it make if the Congress or the BJP or the BSP or the SP wins the election – apart from caste loyalties and personal gain? The BJP roots for the Banias, the SP for the OBCs and the BSP for the Dalits. Its only the Congress which can represent all Hindus – and the minorities – despite its myriad short-comings and soft Hindutva outlook. Only Mayawati could launch a very serious challenge to the Congress at the national level in the 2014 polls.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003563439127 Vignesh Here

    Wanna share one of my personal fav quotes in dis regard:
    “I still find each day too short for all the thoughts I want to think, all the walks I want to take, all the books I want to read, and all the friends I want to see.”- John Burroughs

    N mam, I’ve been following ur blog for quite sometime now…u r generally all praises for various books… It wud b fun 2 c u blasting-off some book/author for a change ;) ;) Can I xpct that anytime soon??

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    Kushal Reply:

    Grin. I don’t usually blast off against books / authors, Vignesh, because they’re like mosquitoes – irritating and not worth raising my blood pressure for. I do love talking about books I like very much though, because I want everyone to read them.

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    Vignesh Here Reply:

    Gud reply…But some books end up as a sheer waste of time leavin u so frustrated that u hafta vent ur feelings n also warn other readers ;)

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    Kushal Reply:

    Hmm, I’ve done that in actual book reviews on HT’s books page, Vignesh. But mostly, if a book really, REALLY annoys me, I don’t bother reading it to the bitter end unless I’m doing a book review or a feature story for which I have no choice but to finish the book. Life’s too short to spend on doing things you don’t like. If, by chapter four, I realise I’m not going to like the book, I stop and read something I will like.

  • http://twitter.com/amishra77 Akhilesh Mishra

    “It’s strange how something that gives me so much pleasure can cause so much stress, but sometimes it really does”

    But it is true about almost everything in the world. Take for example the HT Blogs themselves – and the writers on it. There are such fantastic bloggers as you who imbibe their readers with pleasure . Then there are bloggers like Vir Sanghvi / Vinod Sharma who are propagandists of a political party masquerading as journalists. Stress is the least of emotions while reading them !

    But just as you happily continue doing your work, we happily continue coming back to HT Blogs. Some things are simply irresistable !

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  • Abhiroop Banerjee

    She came across it in one of those circulating libraries that dot the inner streets of Bombay – some part raddi shop, part library, some part DVD library, part books library. How does a library circulate?

    I totally know the stress you talk about. Apart from books, thinking about all the places I want to visit before I become a doddering geriatric freaks me out. I now stay away from travelogues because every time I started reading one I would slap the book/magazine down, light up and start pacing up and down furiously, frustrated that there is simply no TIME.

    I want to get off the information superhighway.

    But, I’ve learned to be content with the few books that I do get to read after I realized one day that I wasn’t enjoying reading as much as I used to. These days, I read one book at a time, slowly, like I used to, drifting into a reverie after every other sentence, talking to myself, smiling at what I thought was a clever one-liner I came up with, forgetting where I’d started as I realize that my finger was still between the pages I was on as I come back and dive into the story again..

    Earlier, I loved the new book feeling that would accompany the trip back home from the bookshop. I would go to sleep with my latest buys on my bed’s headpiece. I still get the same thrill when I get a new book but these days I consciously keep the other unread books away.

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  • Kushal

    Mostly, it’s about the game, Kanika and that is sooooooooo BORING!

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  • Kushal

    I really don’t get you, Akhilesh. What have you got against introverts and why are you taking it out on me? If I don’t want to tweet or post status messages or go to parties, how does it upset YOU? Do you not have a life yourself?

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  • Kushal

    I am bored by cricket, Parmanu. I did go back and read all the reasons I went to watch the game and they had nothing to do with cricket.

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  • Anonymous

    Agree. Also I studied in a Regional Engg College (now NITs) where we had a large number of students from the North-East and they were all universally loved. I guess the more people get to know each other the more the barriers fall. And the converse is also true

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  • Fact

    A good article from Vir Singhvi. No pseudo secularism and Modi bashing too. Keep it up and we might accept you post Radia.

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  • AshishC

    Dear Kima,
    if it is any consolation, I was once dining at an eatery in Khan Market witha friend from Hong Kong (a Chinese) on a visit to Delhi. We were being served by a waiter who was obviously from North East. The moment my friend saw him, his eyes lit up; he beckoned him close and broke into Cantonese. The waiter’s face was quite a sight :)
    This anecdote apart, I applaud you for speaking out about the shameful behaviour of our fellow Indians. Someday, hopefully, we will grow up.

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  • Ramesh

    We all are different, speak different languages, look different, profess different religions, dress differently, have different food habits and we are all proud of our cultures. This is what makes India fascinating!

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  • Mizohican Kima

    Thanx for your replies Ashish, Ramesh, Raj, anon and Globe. I read them over the weekend but couldn’t reply from my phone. I have been brought up outside Mizoram from 3rd standard, so I know very well this is not the mentality and opinion shared by every Indian. I have a lot of non-Mizo friends from this side of India and cherish them. But there are also certain people who will always behave ignorant and obnoxious online, after all, it is the internet. That may still take time to change, but in the real world, I have indeed seen a lot of changes as I have been in mainland India almost my entire life, and articles like this by a prominent columnist really speed up the process :) Cheers to you all :)

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  • Proton75in

    for dhai bhallas, many choices in delhi, each market is having his famous dahi bhalla but to find the best u must taste some of the stated below
    1. At shakti nagar ganda nallah. you will find a lot of dahi bhalla lovers there
    2. At maya puri bearing market.
    3. At chavdi bazar chowk

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  • Ishmart Alec

    BTW i do agree. Although i got tired of cricket long ago partly because of overkill, partly because of its new WWE-esque avatar… the only good that comes out of this circus is maybe regonition of more players than before and blurring of regional and linguistic lines amongst us.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/ram.lakhani.33 Ram Lakhani

    Romney? No. Obama? YesTitle should be Romney…. No Obama? Just a word game…..Dont beat voters right

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  • http://www.facebook.com/amitbhatia80 Amit Bhatia

    Obama has done himself no good but criticizing the video and then killing of American diplomat. This has become big election issue that he is a weak president who is into appeasing muslims. he should have first have send strong signal by talking tough about killing of US diplomat and then criticize the video but he did the opposite.

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    Barnslayer Reply:

    The video was just a convenient excuse for more moslem brutality.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/amitbhatia80 Amit Bhatia

    Obama has done himself no good but criticizing the video and then killing of American diplomat. This has become big election issue that he is a weak president who is into appeasing muslims. he should have first have send strong signal by talking tough about killing of US diplomat and then criticize the video but he did the opposite.

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  • The Shaft

    Khamenei is not Khomeini, Zia. Netanyahu is doing his best to arm-twist Obama into attacking Iran’s nuclear-whatever; arranged to kill the US envoy in Benghazi and mock at Obama’s foreign policy gains in the M.E. by the easiest ploy possible – insult the prophet and get the lumpen elements on the street. However, Obama the under-dog fighter will not allow a criminal like Netanyahu to beat him at this game.

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    Barnslayer Reply:

    Arabs firing rockets into Israel. Yep, that’s Netanyahu arm-twisting obama alright.
    Islam tolerates no religion but islam.

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  • Foulitics

    Zia’s Islamic brothers are rioting and murdering all across the world over a very silly movie and no mention of that by the “Muslim affairs” correspondent.

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  • Plumbline

    Political correctness means you cannot speak the truth, or you can’t get elected……..you have to talk grey, not black and white………..

    ………Revelation 19:15……..Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.” He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty.

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  • Sumit Bose

    Mr Muslim, as your other articles, this too is long on rhetoric and terribly poor on facts. you consider “Incendiary films, literature and cartoons that poke Islam are not an
    expression of free speech. I consider them to be hate speech”. In short your position is in no way divergent from those thugs all around the world who choose to get into rampage mode, whenever it is convenient to whip up a mob.
    This trailer was posted on 1st July and it is an absoloutely shoddily made movie, for certain, but the facts are clearly, without much alteration, straight out of Bukhari’s collection!
    It amazes me no end, when pious Muslims spend hours and hours reading the scriptures, but have not been offended in what is in the most authoritative of the H@diths. I wonder if they have any comprehension of the hours and hours of reading they have indulged in. If they have understood the facts that were dutifully compiled by Bukhari, then it is very clear that they don’t want anyone else to know what is between the covers of this most authoritative source of Islamic history.
    You conclusion that Muslims should look back at the life of the Prophet; and my point is they are doing exactly that! He NEVER forgave anyone who questioned his actions/claims.
    He got a nearly 100 year old man (Abu Talib, I think) assassinated because he opposed his religious claims. He requested volunteers from among his followers to kill Asma, who wrote satirical poems about his caravan looting and slaughters. One who did the bidding of the “most exalted human ever” returned with remorse and guilt, only to be assured by him, that “even two goats will not butt their heads for her”.
    The list is long and this is no forum for giving out the vast expanse of bigotry and brutality that was the defining characteristic of “most exalted human ever”. Is it any wonder that this group have to drum up a show of force to silence facts that are now freely available on the internet.
    Mr Muslim, what value is the merit of your “secular” education if you too choose to be a “gathiya taqqiya” and opine to criminalize any recounting of recorded facts, where even truth is no longer a defense against a group who feel “outraged” . Your teachers must be hanging their heads down in shame at your residue of all the long years of educations resources that have been squandered for you.

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  • Anonymous

    My comments have created a reaction which I would like to clarify.

    Frankly as a Muslim I am disturbed that my right to question my religion is taken over by a orthodox Maulvi. How can one’s brain be dictated by a guy who claims who knows everything all because he read or misread a book.

    Islam has to be tolerant and give the right to convert. If some Muslim wants to become a scientist– does he have to get stuck at the quranic stories?

    My right to reject what is clearly wrong cannot be taken away by an idioit who says he knows all because his beard is longer.

    This way Islam will keep fighting with the rest of the world. Sunnis will fight Shias will fight ahemadiyas will fight Ismailis will fight—– etc etc

    Human rights supersede the ideas superimposed by violent clergy.

    This way no human rights and women’s rights program will take place in a Muslim country. We will first wait for Christians and Hindus to progress and then copy all because we cannot fly as the “maulvi and book knows it all.”

    A bad film insulting the prophet should not disturb is but instead make Muslims feel morally superior.

    Need i get in all the propaganda material in Muslim countries against other religions?

    Furtheron we have too much of the victim card. Are we victims always?

    Some weeks back the students from NE were being chased out of South India… all because some idiots blamed them for a Muslim killing in Burma.
    Did we come out on the roads then?

    Stop this victim hood falsehood and free our women– even if it violates the religious text. That is the only way a Muslim mind will be as free as some other minds.

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    Bob Star Reply:

    Parvez you are an angel. You give me hope in this irrational world.

    Good luck to you.

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  • Bob Star

    Saj darling, it will never happen (me converting). How can an atheist be a sheep?? We are the only ones who think for ourselves and don’t follow any “holy” book. We are ruled by proof and evidence – that is all.

    If what you say is true about 2025 – then the world is well and truly screwed. How many violent animals can this planet take?
    Just to be clear, I don’t mean all Muslims of course. Just those who like to fight, kill and maim because it makes them feel good, or think that a books tells them it’s ok. Those are the animals. If all Muslims were like Parvez – we wouldn’t even be having this discussion – because people like him make this world a better place.

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  • Bob Star

    Some people will refuse to believe you even though we both know it’s true. It seems to be what happens to the religious mind. It’s the same with Jesus. If he was around today he wouldn’t be seen as a good person. He’d be closer to an Afghan warlord of today.

    The truth is morality changes and evolves (for the better) and that has nothing to do with religion. It comes from culture and inspired people. Religion is fixed and unchanging. If we still lived as they did in the Christian West a few hundred years ago, then people would still be being burned for being witches, or fathers would be offering their daughters as a sacrifice or to be raped. All that stuff was normal in the Bible.

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  • Shahriar

    Alas, if you had ever read Quran a wee bit, you would have realized that Einstein knows exactly what Quran says. And Darwin? OMG, even his followers rejected his cheap, illogical hypothesis (Darwin himself said his views as hypothesis, please note). Please brother, read and read to find out what a stupid illogical unscientific person this Darwin was, ha ha. Anyway, though I am a stern believer as a Muslim, I do never support arrogance and violence; to me, patience, tolerance and rationality MUST be the weapons against anti-Islam aggression by the Free Masonic agents worldwide. :)

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  • Shahriar

    Aah, if you would have known the definition of TRUTH brother……:)

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  • Anonymous

    I am here as a human being and not a bigoted supporter of any religion.

    Let me be frank. Most religions can be torn apart in context of today’s knowledge. While all of us have a right to believe what we desire, you cannot take my right away to reject what I perceive as wrong.

    Why is Islam in confrontation with the rest of the world?

    A few Muslims have tried to blame it on all, but never on themselves. Even in this blog :)

    let me give a respectable translation of the Quran from Dar us Salam publications which is used to poison us against others. NO bad intentions on my side. Just factual plain speaking.

    Here is the first Surah. Please note that the interpretation talks about the low life of Jews and Christians.

    ——–

    1. Surah Al-Fatihah1.

    In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.

    2. All the praises and thanks be to Allah, the Lord of the ‘Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists).

    3. The Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.

    4. The Only Owner (and the Only Ruling Judge) of the Day of Recompense (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)

    5. You (Alone) we worship, and You (Alone) we ask for help (for each and everything).

    6. Guide us to the Straight Way

    7. The Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace, not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger (such as the Jews), nor of those who went astray (such as the Christians).

    ——————————————-

    This interpretation straight away goes hammer and tongs at jews and Christians. SO are we training new minds for a peacefull world?

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  • ssraja

    U don’t know islam nor ur mullas who teach hatred .first know about islam then express u r views . nor Einstein nor darwin reach the sky
    till date know one knows how life came into existence .whatever developments u r seeing today r marely just 150 year old this is the initial stage there is a lot to explore and know about so don’t come to conclusions and say that darwin and einstein r gods .

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  • ssraja

    sorry real muslim don’t be agitated sir by just having a muslim name is not a muslim u should know what is islam and islam it teaches to have patience.

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  • Plumbline

    1 Peter 2:23-24……….
    23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: 24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

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  • ssraja

    Here all r angry about islam.today there r more than 1 billion muslims in the world they r all not arabs .all these muslims did’t get converted to islam by force they have adopted islam because they liked the living style of prophet mohammed(pubh)all atrocities done in the name of islam r not the preachings of prophet(pubh) islam is just following the sunnah(living style of prophet(pubh)
    nothing more than that and if u don’t follow that u r not a muslim.islam is was adopted by many cults,culture,religion and region so there r many kinds of people and it is natural to show their behavior then where is the fault of islam.
    there is no place in islam for a person who is greedy,selfish,cruel and inhuman to others.it is human to react if some one provokes u that dose’nt mean that islam is bad .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    SS Raja

    That is the trouble. Everyone claims I am the true Muslim and you are not, so I will kill you.

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  • ssraja

    we human beings r animal in nature(greedy and selfish) what islam preaches is to be a human that’s all . if u r not greedy and selfish helpful to fellow being then u r the most respected person in the soceity that is a muslim.

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  • ssraja

    mr sharma u divided a human into 100 pieces in name of caste u created untouchability because of that today india has more muslims u still practice untouchability .

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @ssraja, please get it clear, there is a very brutal episode involving your direct ancestor,who had to kiss the feet of maurading foriegners and to save his body being seperated from his head and having his wife and children from being sold into slavery, This “untouchability” myth is foisted upon us by the Congressi Marxist Historians, who have been drumming into us all that the “Muslims started COMING to India”. It lead V.S. Naipaul question: As if they were coming into India in tourist caravans!
    This brutal episode in not just what your hapless ancestor had to ingest with humiliation; it was something that millions of Indians had to endure. This is a terrible episode in india’s past that has been adroitly covered up by our Congressi marxists, and it was not something that the Mughals brought into India, it started way before with the scoundrels of the Slave dynasties. Emperor Akbar was the only one who brought in a genuine composite entity, when he took Raja Man Singh’s help to defeat Ahmad Shah Abdali ( who was a star in forced conversions). besides Akbar had rejected Islam. I would suggest you read M.A.Khan’s well researched book name “Islamic Jihad” to put to rest once and for all this red herring that “untouchability” is the prime motivator of so many muslims in India.

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    ssraja Reply:

    mr sumit ji y r u peeking into history now too u practice untouchability u live in a seperate colonies u don’t entertain other communities U (brahmins) r just 4% of the population
    of the country and u enjoy 95% of the wealth of this country
    i have seen the atrocities of brahmins on dalits and sc’s
    now too they r commiting atrocities in north india.because of u r untouchbility most of the dalits and sc’s have adopted islam there r more than 50 crore muslims in (pak,bangladeshand india)these people not came from arab in carvans.these people r indian habitats ,in islam all r equal
    and don’t refer me to read any khan’s book nor the khan nor u know about islam .if some one commits crime in the name of islam that is not the fault of islam .who ever commits crime he is a criminal there is no place for any kind of crime in islam .islam has said there is nothing physical like god 1400 years now scientific community and people r realizing that universe is vast there cannot a be any human r an idol be a god

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  • ssraja

    Mr parvez then u must know islam is not a religion it is just a system which makes u a human being. we muslim’s follow sunnah (living style of prophet mohammed(pubh)) did prophet(pubh) spread hatred.is there place for hatred in islam.r taliban real muslims do they represent muslims in the world.to be frank u don’t find a real muslim it is very hard to find a real muslim who practice islam .sahabah have donated their wealth to adopt islam show me a single muslim who is not greedy selfish .u should know allah will not accept u r prayer if u commit a single gunah in between the prayers.in todays world commiting henious crimes in the name of islam and the western world is provoking the muslim’s for their greedy intentions they have captured phalastine and now iraq afgasnistan libya lebnon for oil they r defaming the muslims their intentions r purly economical they just want to loot the natural resources of the muslim country’s.as an individual u write any thing u want u have the right to express not in the name of islam r muslim.

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  • ssraja

    sumit ji really u don’t know about islam ,u may know some bad people having muslim name’s authoring some books to defame islam if u really serious meet some good scholars and clear u r doubts but don’t defame islam it is the islam which has shown the mankind 1400 years ago when there were no satalites nor any communication devices that universe is vast and the sun is just a star in a galaxy which has billions of stars like that u can’t worship these stars nor any man r any manmade things.but most of the religions still practice stoneage retuals like hindus do worship stones trees.first u come out of islamphobia . even our indian scientist kept project papers in front of a stone for blessings , that there is no god like thing in universe today what the scientists r saying.in sura’s they may be advocating see them in a context ,don’t single out .

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  • ssraja

    mr parvez it is for domination(for khilafat) its politics not islam and they shia’s put islam in a different prospective as a religion which is not there is no place for worshiping objects of any kind in islam .even u can’t worship prophet(pubh) as god it is sin in islam .how can a human being r a star be god when the universe is so vast where just a galaxy has billions of stars .it takes100 light years to reach the nearest star.
    so don’t go into these kinds of arguments .if u want be a muslim(follower of islam) then just u choose the path of prophet(pubh) just follow sunnah nothing else.

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  • Foulitics

    I remember Zia writing that MF Hussein went into exile because he was “persecuted” or some such word. He is a fanatic. Fanatics can only be hypocrites since they stand on top of a sand castle which can crumble anytime.

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  • ssraja

    mr parvezi did’nt say that, i think u should cosnsult a good islamic scholar, islam is just following sunnah that’s all .while osama and hafeez i don’t know about them what they have to do with islam ,r they messangers of god. shias, ismaiilias ahmadias i don’t know what they preach and practice,but for certain they don’t follow sunnah.and i don’t have right to criticise followers of other religion r believes .one thing u should know islam says allah is the creater of the universe .
    now u may say who is allah ,allah is nothing he has no physical appearence ,and no one has ever seen him.and the holy quran says mohemmad(pubh) is his massenger.living style of prophet(pubh) is sunnah,if u believe other than this then u r not the follower of the islam that’s it.and the main aim of islam is to be human not more that. and u r quoting some sooras, u must is each line of quran in context . and quran is in arabic litreture and there r many scholars have their own view versions because of that there r as many as 76 firkhas.

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  • ssraja

    yes zakir naik in present days he is a good scholar who has knowledge of other scriptures also .u r miss guided about islam .what i have said earlier that don’t look what others have done in the name of islam just do follow sunnah nothing else.
    there is propaganda about is islam is cruel to women in islam women r not treated as equal it is wrong. it respects women no other religion does.because the creator knows what product he has created so u n me don’t know. so don’t believe in false propaganda.Geert Wilders thinks polygamy is all part of 2009 Europe, thanks to Islam, without ever knowing whether polygamy is a man or a horse. Click here for Wilders’ site:
    Bigamy — or for that matter polygamy — as one of Islam’s widely misread concepts has just been examined with a fine-toothed comb and put in perspective by India’s law commission, a government panel for legal reforms.
    To put the record straight, the law commission in its 227th report has said the popular view that Muslims could simply have two wives at a time was flawed. One of the authors of the report was Tahir Mahmood, a front-ranking legal expert on Muslim law, aside from the commission’s chairman AR Lakhsmanan.
    “It is generally believed that under Muslim law, a husband has an unfettered right to marry again even when his earlier (read present) marriage is continuing. On a closer examination of the relevant provisions of the Quran and other sources of Islamic law, this does not seem to be true,” the commission’s report states.
    These comments however were incidental to the main theme: “Preventing Bigamy via Conversion to Islam”. The legal experts were seized with cases of Hindu men using Islam as a licence to marry a second time without dissolving their existing marriage.
    Since Islam itself did not permit a licentious use of bigamy provisions, the commission suggested amendments to the Hindu Marriage Act to put a stop to Hindus misusing Islam’s highly conditional permission to have a second wife concomitantly with the first one.
    Islam is not what it is often made out to be and the real surprise is that realities are often ignored. You can pick several issues, like polygamy. There are more serious ones: if you kill enough non-Muslims you might even get to romp in a heavenly bedroom with 72 virgins. (I really doubt if God meant group sex! And even if He did, Islamophobes cringe at the very thought when Hugh Hefner’s Playboy Mansion has far more bedrooms with far sexier bunnies.)
    If I were to tell my wife that I care for second one now, I am not sure whether she will file for divorce. Eat me alive, she will for sure. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
    Muslim countries themselves have clear laws that do not view polygamy approvingly; Tunisia and Turkey having banned it completely. In Egypt, if a woman can prove that her husband is married to another, he can be prosecuted for bigamy.
    Turkish family law and marriage legislation and regulations uphold monogamy. A second marriage cannot be executed unless the first is dissolved.
    In Syria, polygamy is highly regulated. A judge “may refuse permission for polygamous marriage unless husband establishes lawful cause and financial capacity”. Inability to conceive is one widely held ground for Islamic bigamous marriages. Click here.
    In Morocco too, polygamous marriages are discouraged. Polygamy may not be permitted if a woman fears unequal treatment, according to Moroccan family laws. Click here.
    In India, polygamous Muslim marriages are indeed few and far between. Old wives’ tales to the contrary, the National Survey Commission on the Status of Women in India (1975), one of the few surveys on polygamy in India, found that incidence of bigamy and polygamy was higher among Hindu tribals than Muslims.
    In the two decades between 1931 and 1951, the incidence of polygamy among Hindus and Muslims were comparable: 6.79% for Hindus and 7.29% for Muslims in 1931-41; and 7.15% for Hindus and 7.06% for Muslims in 1941-51. With access to education and its concomitant modern values, polygamy declined on the whole for all Indians, Hindus and Muslims. During 1951-61, 5.06% Hindus engaged in polygamy in contrast to 4.31% figure for Muslims.
    It is universally acknowledged that the Quran does permit polygamy. My stand is that the conditions it puts are designed to actually discourage polygamy.
    Four wives, that tempting luxury, are dealt with in Chapter 4 or Surah An-Nisa (Women) of the Quran, verse 3.
    Here’s Pickthal’s translation: “And if ye fear that ye will not deal fairly by the orphans, marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot do justice (to so many) then one (only) or (the captives) that your right hands possess. Thus it is more likely that ye will not do injustice.”
    It is common for theologians to explain it to madrassah students this way. God says ‘marry one, two or four’, you have to the freedom. But remember, you have to do equal justice to not just all of them, but also all your children, especially if they are orphaned. The verse then enjoins Muslims to restrict themselves to just one (wife) if they fear doing injustice.
    How long can we go on propagating the myth that Islam permits reckless freedom to marry four wives at a time?
    However, with those having pre-conceived notions, statistics don’t work. Prejudices do not melt away easily. Man finds it difficult to stomach anything that goes against his instincts.
    If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, said Bertrand Russell, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. “If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way.”
    Islam appears radical only when you “essentialize” it. Examples: polygamy it’s there in the Quran; beating women, it’s there in the Quran. So, Islam endorses both. But then the Prophet never ever beat a woman in his life.
    There are problems with the way Muslims have interpreted the Quran. There is a difference between religion and religious knowledge. Religion is divine, according to Muslim faith, but knowledge of Quran and how it is applied is not. Religious knowledge is human-developed. There is a need for non-Muslims and Muslims to shift from a literalist reading of the Quran to a liberatory one.
    I am saying there can be more than one way of reading the Quran and we need to re-read it. I am against treating the Quran as an absolute text. That betrays its very meaning. True, the texts don’t change. But the Contexts do.
    If you want an answer on whether I would criticize something I don’t like about Quran, then you have to understand the goalposts. There cannot be clinical answers to crises.
    Are we dealing with a crisis in Islam? Yes. Am I looking to please an audience? No. If I say I disagree with a certain line in the Quran, this may please a big section of the audience. This is not the purpose. People who believe in a faith don’t question God. Atheists do. The solution in my considered opinion is to re-read the Quran and privilege a liberatory reading over literalist reading.
    More and more Muslim countries have realized that what is applicable to religion may not be applicable to the state. Marriage is just one of them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ SS Raja

    Thank you for your reply. I appreciate that you have put in the effort to give your viewpoint on all this. I would give my reply over two days as right now I am sitting with my University friends and enjoying India prevail over Pakistan in the first half of the match.

    In my opinion, Zakir Naik is a very very very poor scholar. He is in fact a manipulator who has occupied centrestage of manipulating Muslim thought.

    In my second opinion, I think the Quran has nothing to offer to women as equals to men for the 21st century unless it is take int he spirit. When my sister was 18, my grandfather asked her to read the Quran,

    her first question was of disappointment.
    “the entire text is addressed to males… ” was her reaction. “It has paras like you can have one, two three four wives… women are your cultivation… ”

    In no way is it adressed to a woman. When you say, “woman are yours…”

    The whole dialogue is to a male.

    Raja sir, I will love e to have your opinion as I sincerely feel that Muslims need to break the hegemony fakes like Zakir naik have imposed on us.

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  • Barnslayer

    How much time have you spent in he USA? Obama is destroying our economy. By the way… ever hear of a poor person giving someone a job? Having money is evil? The Obamas, Oprah, the Kennedys and Clintons are millionaires. So are lots of liberal Hollywood. I guess it’s only evil to you if conservatives have money.

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  • devil_wheels

    I’m not sure how you can compare Romney/Ryan to the BJP. Neither Romney nor Ryan will advocate breaking the law, buildings or people. Both may be personally opposed to abortion but will ultimately uphold Roe vs. Wade.

    Both men also conceive of politics as a civil profession and neither will be found on stage with a naked sword in hand like Modi or countless other Indian politicians. There is just no valid comparison here between Romney and Ryan and the BJP or any other Indian politicians.

    I assume you were trying to make an analogy but it’s not a true one and I’m tremendously happy that you won’t be voting the US Presidential election.

    And by the way, Obama is wrong. They did build it.

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  • devil_wheels

    We are unfortunately living in a world in which many groups think the world revolves around them or at least that it ought to. The Hindus think that their ideology should be at the root of a chimerical “Indianness.” The Muslims think they ought to rule the world. The AARP thinks the old own the world and so do all the unions.

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  • devil_wheels

    There is a problem, yes but going off the deep end in the other direction is not a solution. There are also people like Aayan Ali Hirsi and a great many Muslims who I would not describe as “moderate” in the conventional sense who see the problem. They are becoming more vocal.

    There is also a great deal of culture left in the Islamic world. There are better and more intellectual movies and music that come out of Iran, Egypt and northern Africa than the nonsense that Indians seem to prefer.

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  • Subho

    Fair analysis and spot on bottom-line.

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