Kahan gaye woh log?



Lal Krishna Advani lamented the other day the absence of somebody like the late V P Singh who could raise the banner of revolt against the Congress leadership from within in this season of scams that makes the alleged Bofors gun deal kickbacks seem the work of a pickpocket!

His remarks to The Indian Express are an admission at once of the principal Opposition’s limitations in acquiring the moral high ground VP attained on being thrown out of the Congress for doing the unthinkable — challenging his parent party on probity in public life. The anti-Congress sentiments that he whipped triggered first the emergence of the Jan Morcha and than its more evolved edition, the National Front.

VP attained political respectability through the companionship of the Left and a mass reach that came with the logistical support of the BJP-RSS. His was a government supported from outside by the political Left and the Right. The politics of Mandal and Kamandal caused its premature downfall spearheaded by none else than Advani, then a much celebrated rath yatri. Unlike in the late 1980s when the country was under the Congress’s single-party rule, it isn’t all that easy today to rally the entire Opposition against the UPA which itself is a multi-party conglomeration. In the intervening years the country witnessed events — Ayodhya in 1992 and Gujarat in 2002— that caused a secular-communal divide that has forever left the saffron parivar suspect in the eyes of the so-called secular forces.

That factor is a major hindrance in the repeat of 1989 that witnessed the combined Opposition quit en masse from the eighth Lok Sabha — albeit in the final stages of its life – over the Bofors issue. Coupled with it is the glut of smeared reputations across the political spectrum that leaves the choice between lesser and bigger instances of graft or loot of public money.

Ranging from the Congress to the BJP to regional parties such as the DMK, AIADMK, the RJD and the Samajwadi Party, almost every party has had its share of sleaze — big and small. Our multi-party system is so much at the mercy of unscrupulous corporate entities — for funding and other kind of logistics — that cronyism and questionable patronage are the order of the day.

Collude or get cast aside. The message gets reinforced with each election, change of government and ministers. India needs a Jayaprakash Narayan or a VP to mobilize people against the pernicious system. None fits the bill in the obtaining crowd of power hungry politicos.

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  • Ziauddin Shafi

    Late PV Narasimha Rao’s great contribution to the polity is that he forced the BJP to lean forever on the RSS for its survival – after 1992, the BJP just got stuck with the Extreme Right and after Gujarat 2002 it will be an uphill task for it to get out from there on the national level. The tragedy of the congress is that it has now to bear with the likes of Raja and DMK, comprising with all and sudry over corruption and related crimes. May be the likes of Salman Khursheed and Kapil Sibal could do some good to the image of the congress in the future. Rest are as damaging as Kalmadi.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Dear Ziauddin Shafi,

    You are being simplistic about the left-right division. You are obviously ignoring the historical factor of the congress movement of having been a host to the so called rightists as well as the leftists. You are also brushing aside the latest trend in Karnataka, Bihar, MP and Gujarat, where the BJP is becoming a practical alternative to the congress party for the minorities.

    As for the congress party’s image, Salman Khurshid is a very fine gentleman, who is also a very likeable person even for many in the BJP, but Kapil Sibal is an abrasive, over-bearing personality, who has many detractors within his own party. He has also brought much ridicule for the congress party, by his total support for Raja.

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    Sunil Reply:

    Extreme RIGHT ? Can you please define what the extreme right is? Is the Muslim League the Extreme Right? Or the parties involved in Kashmir who want a Muslim only state the Extreme Right? Or is Pakistan an example of the Extreme Right? Or Bangladesh an example of the Extreme Right? It appears that only Hindus are the Extreme Right !

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    veer bhallal Reply:

    brother you are putting our muslaman bhai to un necessary piquant position, how can he say mulsim league or mim as rightist forces, had he been in hyderabad or in keral he would have voted for mim or muslim league

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  • Mahesh

    Sharmaji,
    Nice thing that you brought V. P. Singh in focus – a maverick in true terms on several counts.
    But then , Sirjee, those were different times and these are different times. The revolt that Mr. Advani laments about is not going to come from within the system. The mainstream polity – Congress, BJP and regional parties included – has just about stopped being a representational polity. Despite its communal and casteist fallout V.P. Singh atleast represented the caste aspirations of control over the power structure within the state apparatus (in case anybody thinks reservations were about jobs – well, the Mandal commission recommendations for governent jobs amounted to about less than 0.1 percent for the total workforce all over the country) . Where does the current polity stand in comparison ? We may want to start small – preserving the current growth rate that our aspiring middle class has gotten so much accustomed to. Do the policies of any of the mainstream polity really work towards it – as against the “autopilot” our markets and economy are relegated to ? Crisis in agrarian and rural economy come much later – something that ,IMHO, none of the political parties are really in a position to grasp , both in terms of willingness and competency. Climate induced Un-certainity and its fallout doesn’t even figure in our great national debate.
    The wonderful movie on Titanic provided us a great cinematic metaphor – Re-arrenging the deck chairs – so often used in Western (promonently North American) media . With the current political arrangements and debates , unfortunately, this is what we are seeing.
    I honestly hope being off the mark in my assessment here, but somehow the more I see tone and tenor of debate in our national polity the more I am getting convinced about this being the case.
    - Mahesh.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Mahesh,

    “I honestly hope being off the mark in my assessment here”—-

    I am afraid you are wide off the mark here. In your attempt to spread high level economics before Vinod Sharma, you have succeeded only in confusing the aam aadmi like me. Something more by way of clarity of thought and word would be greatly appreciated.

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    Mahesh Reply:

    Shenoy,
    My basic argument is this….
    With the “peak oil ” crisis hitting world economies now and in near future – how are we going to maintain the current growth rate ? I am not even speaking about equitability of growth .
    Do we see a debate happening at all on this point ?
    Forget factoring in of climate related un-certainities .
    Now which part of this was not clear ?
    Cheers,
    Mahesh.

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  • Mohan

    Only if our politicians were honest and patriotic, ….alas..the nehru family has ruined India systematically and the greedy politician dogs wagged their tails and supported congress for their selfish short sighted motives..One day India will lie wounded and in tatters and the brave will be martyrd and these corrupt dogs again will eat the flesh of mother India…Jai Bharat

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  • nirav

    Vinodji,

    Are you wanting to reincarnate the ghosts of the mandal commision again??Lk advani the iron man looks to have rusted…needs to give company to ABV…:)
    The only man who can truly slap the scamsters is Narendra modi…
    But the brigades of psuedo secularists and pro gandhi family (actually that surname is fake as Indiaras husband was Firoz khan and not gandhy.His father was a muslim)will try their best to spread false news about gujarat and the man himself.Even after repeated court verdicts vindiacating Mr modi.Leaders across parties in maharashta few weeks back were praising him.On one side We have a family that destroyed the fabric of the politic …Remember how rahul was caught by FBI in drug/money laundering in 2001,then how sanjeev gandhi was changed to sanjay gandhi,italian antique smuggling business of the gandhi in laws..family love with Mr Q..and still the lady of that family sonia reports that she is so poor that she doesnt even own a car:)
    On the other hand Modis family lives is poverty and he even refused a calss iV trasfer for his brother.
    Still the media continues to romance with the INC masters…
    I wonder when will people be loyal to the soil of the country rather than salt of thier corrupt masters…

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    Satish Haldankar Reply:

    I can only refer to you as ignoramus or are you just spreading falsehoods, lies and untruths – RSS style..Moreover, what you have written has nothing to do with the subject matter of the blog. It seems you just need an opportunity to let loose an outburst towards your objects of hate. Having done so, let us play ball.

    First, Feroze is not an unusual first name among Parsis. Second, there is no question of anyone converting to Zoroastrian and becoming a Parsi. Only children born to a Parsi man are considered Parsis. Even children born to a Parsi woman and a non Parsi man are not accepted as Parsis.So your points about fake surname, etc. is all trash.

    Even, if for a moment we assume your falsehood about Feroze Gandhi being a Muslim is true, . So what? Is it a crime? Is It a crime to marry a Muslim? Remember, we have a very liberal and secular Constitution and not some set of Hindutva laws of the RSS.

    True, Modi has not been proven not guilty by any court of law and as things work in India, it is unlikely he would be in future, like most other politicians. However, the stark reality is he presided over one of the worst pogroms in the history of India (Do not try and justify it with 1984 killings – both were equally reprehensible) and till date has not the humility to show any remorse nor rendered any apology. The taint of 2002 will never leave your hero, whether you like it or not. So he gets disqualified at the start itself to take on the scamsters.

    Your other arguments about – rich Gandhis versus poor Modi, your allegations of the Gandhi family destroying the fabric of the country, etc. only makes me laugh at your incredulity.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    As you are quite in the know about the good deeds about the Congress Party , could you please enlighten the bloggers as to the assurances given to DMK ton the 2 G probe to get those 63 seats.

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    Shiuli Reply:

    @ Satish
    Its no crime in marrying a muslim at all. But it is a crime to hide behind falsehood.
    If as you put Indira Nehru married Feroz Khan, then why this make belief title Gandhi? And why the talk of a Parsi religion? She should have openly claimed of her choice.
    And as to the current scams and govt’ stand and the Modi Factor, I think people will come to realization of their choices soon.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Satish Haldankar,

    Very cleverly you have deflected from the issue of the Ghandys becoming, overnight as it were, the revered, saintly Gandhis. Please take the trouble to explain the history of the miracle of Ghandys becoming Gandhis.

    You are utterly, pseudo secularly, wrong in calling Gujarat riots as the WORST IN HISTORY. That credit rightfully belongs to the saintly Gandhis, particularly Rajiv Gandhi, who set upon the hapless Sikhs of Delhi and elsewhere through his cronies, in a clinically executed POGROM killing four thousand Sikh men, women and even innocent children. In Gujarat, 1200 people were killed in the riots in which the Muslims too had massacred Hindus and including those killed by police bullets, 259 Hindus too had perished. Pl. take your JNU history with a shovelful of salt.

    But, in one respect you are damn right; Modi gets tainted, but the Gandhis, despite the rightful tag of murderers of 4000 Sikhs, get the TEFLON coat from our secular media, which is blindly accepted by pseudos like you. The RSS has nothing to do with such worshipful servility displayed by you here.

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    nirav Reply:

    @Satish

    i can only add some more facts so Satish can open his eyes and also smell the coffee…

    Gujarat-Has won most awards for a state..It has more foreign investment than many countries put together,
    Every village has 3phase electricity,Go and see the roads.
    As far as 2002 riots go ..please let the court decide that not you wisdom and prejudice Satish
    Any idea why after 60 yrs of independance we still have more than 50% citizens below poverty when your beloved gandhis are ruling(if at all that surname is true).
    Why food inflation in highest in asia….(among like sized countries)
    Why the scams this year alone in UPA exceeds the GDP of the country manifold.
    Why the black money in the swiss banks by indians is more than rest of the world put together,.”http://taxguru.in/finance/swiss-bank-revealed-indian-have-more-money-then-rest-of-the-world.html”
    Why we are the worst hit nation by terrorism…and the government is clapping Eunuch stlye..
    !/4 of the country jungles and tribal areas are under naxalite control?
    Why Nehru in his greed of nobel prize sacrificed Kashmir?
    Why Nehru invited Chinese wrath and then hid his tail and refused to fight?
    Why PM MMS says the first right to countrys resources is that of the Muslims?
    Do hindus not pay their taxes?
    Should all poor people get equal rights?
    If Muslims are equal and rightful citizens than why do they enjoy special excepmtion from laws and dont have uniform civil code?
    The list is endless but your understanding Mr satish is limited;)
    You however have the loyaties to the royalties like Mr vinod sharma and can soon be his assitant…
    And for your kind information Feroz father was a muslim and mother a parsi …hence he should be a muslim….his mothers surname was Gandhy and not Gandhi as Indira samrtly propagated..

    …And before we play ball again learn to hold your bat straight…

    And yes. forgot to say …

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    nirav Reply:

    Shenoy saab,

    Forgot to say…
    thanks for the numbers..As usual you are mindblowing with your facts..

  • http://- Guju

    BABA RAM DEVJI MAHARAJ HAS ARRIVED WITH NEW AVTAR OF JAYAPRAKASH NARAYAN. HAVE SOME PATIENCE AND THERE IS GREAT CHANGE COMING TO INDIA WHEN SLEEPING PUBLIC WAKES UP TO THE TRUTH. IT IS GREAT SHAME THAT THIS BLOG HAS NEVER MENTIONED WHO IS LOOTING THE COFFERS OF INDIA AND WHO IS PROTECTING THOSE PEOPLE INVOLVED.
    THERE IS CRUDE JOKE IN THE WEST INTELLECTUAL CIRCLE THAT INDIA’S ECONOMIC GROWNS BY NIGHT WHEN THE P.M. AND S.P.M. AND THE CONGRESS PARTY POLITICIANS AND THEIR CHEER LEADERS, THE ENGLISH MEDIA AND CHAMCHAS ARE FAST ASLEEP, THIS IS THE STATE INDIA HAS BEEN REDUCED TO BY THIS UNINTELLIGENT AND INCOMPETENT FERALS HAVING LOOTED THE COUNTRY UNDER THE P.M. IS ONE WHO IS NOT THE REAL ONE , AND THE REAL ONE HAS NO SELF RESPECT LEFT AND IS SHAME LESS , WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE MASSES OF INDIA.
    IT LOOKS LIKE SUSHMA SWARAJ HAS JOIN IN TO PROTECT THIS TRAITORS AND GHADHARS OF INDIA. IT HAS BECOME SO DIFFICULT TO TELLL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONGRESS MEMBER OR B.J.P.
    SO FAR, NO ONE HAS ASKED THE PUPPET P.M. WHOSE SELCTION WAS P.J.THOMAS ? UNDER WHOSE DURESS AND BEHEST HE WAS FORCED ON THE PEOPLE OF INDIA ? WHY HE WAS PICKED AND NONE OTHERS. WHAT PART UNCONSTITUTIONAL S.P.M. PLAYED IN ALL THIS SAGA ? THE OPPOSITION HAS NO BALLS NOR SPINES TO PUT ACROSS TO THIS SPINELESS – HEADLESS CHICKEN SARDAR.
    I HOPE THE BLOGGER SHOULD REWRITE HIS/HER BLOG.

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  • http://cogitoergosum.co.cc Sid Harth

    Honorable L K Advani is getting too okd. He comes from the fascist RSS family. I wish, for the record at least, he ought to admit to the fact that he was sidelined, if not barred altogethe, over his remark on Mohammad Ali Jinnah, the most hated person in RSS organization, being secular. Jinnah was truly secular. He donated his Bombay real estate, a bungalow on Malabar Hill, to Bombay University in his will. Bombay university senate debated the issue but almost all the members were either Brahmins or their fellow travelers. They rejected the offer. Why would a Muslim president of newly established country of Pakistan consider Bombay University or any other Indian institution worthy of his generosity? My point is that challenging the party rom within is common to all parties including BJP/RSS. Before Jinnah formed a separate Muslim League, he was a member of the Congress party in good standing. Did Congress forgave him of his rebellion? Did any other Hindu ever forgave him for his actions? Talk is cheap. AQll decisions from local to national are taken by few at the top of the party hierarchy. In Congress Sonia Gandhi decides who should be what, say what, do what. The very same thing is seen in BJP. All decisions are taken by one person. Barring daily, routine business. Most all other regional parties do exactly the same. Mulayam Yadav, Mamata Banerjee, Mayawati, Bal/Uddhav Thackeray, M Karunanidhi, J Jayalalithaa are all made in the same mould. Party members do not have any say in the decision making process. They just put their thumb print on. India has no credible democracy. Candidates for local as general elections are carefully selected by political bosses. Not in America or for that matter in any other country that I know. In Banana Republic, that is India, oops, Bharat, monkey business is the order of the day. L K Advani may lament as much as he want to. It is his right, right?

    …and I am Sid Harth

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    manujsk Reply:

    Whoever you may be, you are off point. Labeling someone or an organisation as fascist doesnt make it so. So, there rests the case you began against Advani. And no one buys in India about any other party about one man/woman making decisions. Simple reason being, these parties are small and have not been able to significantly alter the course of the nation. Howver, one surname has. And you know which one. The BJP, for your knowledge, cannot have the same President for more than 2 terms. And, Madam just made a record of holding the chair for more than Gandhi himself. So much for fake names!

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  • Vish…

    Aaah…VP Singh, of all the people! What he did was for pure political purposes against an inexperienced Rajiv, and VP got exposed in process. Mind you, Congress gets most votes cause it is considered ‘lesser evil’ and development has never been out of agenda for congress. It tries, or at least try to be seen like trying, to reconcile various opinions and collaborate among people. VP remained alive and in good health for many years after his removal from office, all he did was to poison people’s mind and political spectrum using mandal politics. We are still havin to deal with the left-over nonsense of those years.

    This analysis holds good and is valid though, if it is done not for VP but someone like Rajesh Pilot. He raised the same concerns a decade or so later by remaining inside the congress (he never created or joined any congress breakaway group like Trinamool, Tamil Munnetra Kashgham, Himachal/Madhya Pradesh/Rashtravadi/Tiwary/Blah-blah Congress which was the norm in nineties). Rajesh got killed in an accident (his death was aptly termed as ‘the death of opposition inside the congress’) and since then Sonya has consolidated and led Congress to unexpected victories while giving up her claim on PM post…I don’t see anyone challenging her. In the recent congress working committee meeting, the tenure of party prez was extended to 5 years from then existing 3 years, which was a sure sign of Sonya’s firm hold on Congress. I really doubt Advani fumes will coz any serious rethink.

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    Vish... Reply:

    *Correction – Tamil Manila Congress (by Moopnar), not Tamil Munnetra Kashgham…My bad :(

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  • Rajiv

    VP Singh was a charlatan and a backstabber and was a master of conning people. I remember him waving a piece of paper at his rallies, with supposedly names of Bofors beneficiaries, which he would disclose if elected !! The people elected him but that piece of paper was never to be found. And who was his right hand man ? It was anathor cheap thug Arun Nehru.

    Then once in power he master minded a most sinister caste politics. I would pick a financially corrput Raja over the morally criminal VP Singh, any day.

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    Jai Reply:

    Me too!

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    Prabhat Reply:

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    Very well said.
    We can live with financially corrupt people like a Lallu , a Raja than morally criminal like V P Singh or Advani.

    And what a leader Advani is – who would beg for an insider revolt in Congress than beating Congress upfront ?

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  • Prof. R.P. Singh

    Prime Minister V.P. Singh may have not been a great politician but he was honest, polished and a great Indian nationalist. Shri. Vajpayee and Shri Sekjhawat were also great nationalists and great leaders.

    However, Advani lacks a backbone he just follows the orders from his Jewish friends and Advani is a fanatic as well. Has no future in secular, and a great civilization that is India.

    While Congress also has corrupt people (BJP has more) we in India have not gone for the party as much as for the leader. Dr. Manmohan Singh represents our country, her hopes, her morality, her nationalism, etc. at her best.. We have voted for Dr. Manmohan Singh. He should lead India for a decade more.

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    veer bhallal Reply:

    what can one expect from this jnu professor, he does not like advani who never allowed his heirs to misuse his official position, what about rest of the politicians and what about mms who has been pretending nap when cats are stealing the milk, may be Indian people love pretenders more

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    V P Singh was a pretender and dishonest to the core in his politics.And that is why no one remembers him ,except for a few Thakurs ( not all) from Central UP and some beneficiaries of his Mandal politics. As for his personal integrity , can it be forgotten that his wife had tried to get the gift deeds of land donated to Vinobha Bhave on grounds of his mental insanity.
    Whereas caste as a social institution before Mandal , was relevant only at the time of settling marriages, and no one cared for caste in normal social interactions, it was the mandalization of society which made caste a vehicle of politics, a tool to divide Hindu society , tp play vote-bank politics. This was the gift of VP Singh to Indian society.

    Coming to the subject of this blog, I have not seen Advani’s statement , but from wghat Mr Vinod has quoted, my take is that , Advani was pointing to a possible sense of disquiet within the Congress Party. That there is none with the courage to lead a rebellion against the prsent dispensation. In the present realities of the political scenerio,the last nail in the coffin of the Congress Party would be a voice of dissent. At prsent it appears that there are only “Na nar hai Na Nari hai, Narain dutt tewari hai ” in the party.

    However Mr Vinod with his own sharp political sense has attempted to turn this political statement against Advaniji himself , to give it a spin , that it points out the weakness of the Opposition itself. Poltically the only defence of the Congress Party can take , and that is what its spin doctors are out to do is that ” all politicians , all political parties are corrupt’.
    The chant has moved on from ” Amit Shah Amit Shah ” to ‘ Yeduruppa Yedurappa”
    Will it work . Only time will tell. Regardless of the results , some indication may be visible seen in the polls to come.

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    Rohit Kumar Reply:

    You are day dreaming, what a goof, BJP has more corrupt people than congress.

    While MMS is the most corrupt & spineless, shameless, worst PM India has ever had, Give him one more chance and we will again be back in pre-independce era.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    BJP has corrupt people but congress party itself is corrupt. As most of the Indians are corrupt by nature, they tend to support congress for vested interest.

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  • Ajeet Hakhu

    V P Singh ——-the less said the better about him. Let his soul rest in peace.

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  • Ashwini

    Advani ji you are right when you say kahan gaye vo log. Now the politics of 21st century has become so corrupt and people are so corrupt that they ere not even afraid of GOD. Politiciens are Power and Money hungry. Whom you have to say honest. Even PM who is called Mr. Clean is not interested to resign after so much corruption by his own copllegues. I have example of Late PM Lal Bahadur Shastri who resign from Railway Ministry when there was one accident of Rail. Now the PM is doing wrong things as done in case of CVC and Supreme Court has to rectify that. THe PM say he is accepting SC verdict but feels don’ ask him to resign. Is this the character? Advani ji same is the case with you and your party. There are also lot of people corrupt. Jara apne garenban main bhi jhaank kar dekh lena and then say Kahan gaye vo log?

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  • Rajni

    VP Singh was a good hearted man but so naive that he did not realize that BJP , RSS and others were just using to get elected to Lok sabha against Congress. He was initially very reluctant to even share stage/dias with RSS men, but was convinced to take them with him by socialists like Mulayam, George and others. His politics of mandal was really not opportunistic, he really believed in it. Once BJP RSS increased its seat from 2 to 85, they dumped him. No wonder crooked Advani needs another VP Singh at this juncture. The idiotic Congressmen who adviced Rajeev to act against VP are equally to be blamed for the rise of fanaticism that has since then gripped India.

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  • Avattar

    Please do not wrtie these kind of blogs. If you cannot put yourself in a bipartisan position and write the real politics please do not do bad to the country future

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  • aaa

    Kahan gaye woh log joh Hindustan ki politics ka satyanash kiya aur uska parinaam Hindustan ki janata abhi tak bhugath rahi hain.

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  • Sid

    Kaha Gaya Wo Log? Unke Saath Mil Gaye Ji! All political parties have their annual party meetings in FIVE star hotels, all leaders fly only by private jets or helicopters. The marriage of their children is so grand that Bollywood film marriages look cheap & plastic. If opposition leaders don’t set high moral
    standards in their public lives, how can they call to stop corruption? So it has fallen on the heads of SC, one Yoga Guru and few spirited individuals to call for end of all these bad governance!

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  • IS Mishra

    Why Advani advocating a man who will revolt against Congress. It is people of India who will take final call and time has come when we will show the exit path to this currupt party; Congress. This party is a group of people/family who are looting this country from last more than 50 years except the era of PV Narsingharao.

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  • sadhu vedant muni

    people are always remembered after his death. Christ, Mahaveer , Osho were not respected in their life time. after their deaths of liberation or nirvaan they were worshiped. kindly do the introspection on VP matter. previously you people treated him as a enmity. it is a common phenomenon that after their deaths they are cordially remembered by their enemies also. to whom you have remembered and praised cordially. you are always known as a critics. it is your nature. how many friends you have? you have ignored your own men. you always remain as banyan tree.being a conservative, respecting or remembering to VP IS fortunate..to whom you respect in Congress party and in yuor own party. in my opinion NONE.

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  • Vijay Kumar

    WANTED– MEN STRONGER and more ASTUTE THAN weepie weepie v p singh !!! :) :)

    While we need people who can revolt in case the political party tends to become a fountain head of corruption, we certainly need people who are not as immoral as V P Singh, who promised much, delivered little and started a caste and religious battle….

    Let us face it. Most political parties in India are family businesses where the members are supposed to pray, touch feet of and lick the owners` boots and _ _ _ _ :)
    ( Fill in the blank and smile )

    Examplii gratia — BSP, DMK, AIADMk, SP, Shiv Sena, BJD, RJD etc etc

    The Congress was once a Nehru- Gandhy family business but being broadbased can also boast of inner party democracy, as long as the supermacy of the Royal family lies unchalleneged.

    The BJP and CPM are among the few who are not family owned.

    In this dismal scenario we need our real heroes like Narayan Murthy, Abdul Kalam, etc etc to emerge as possible serious contenders to the PM’s post. And still remain honest.

    What is the best way to do this???? Leet us honestly probe and throw up solutions…….

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  • M.Farooque

    Advani is just restless and frustrated to be out of power for so long. He is showing love and affection for V P Singh because Advani came to power because of V P Singh. This also shows weakness of BJP, which can not get support of all Indians to topple the government. It is abusrd to think of replacing the present government with BJP as BJP is equally corrupt and criminal. If BJP really wants to fight corruption they should first remove Yeedi from Karnataka. As for Mr. Advani, a person like him should be behind bars for his crimes against humanity. Jai Hind.

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    ishwar Reply:

    Too much NDTV?

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    Rohit Kumar Reply:

    I have never seen any comment in national interest from so called minorities of India.
    Appealing the leaders against corruption in congress party is no weakness.

    I am not saying BJP leaders are not corrupt but the magnitude of corruption in BJP is far far less than congress. In five years of tenure in LS, the loss to exchequer due central govt working would have been 100 crores, but in congress raj it has crossed 5-6 lakh crores.

    Brush up your brain, the card of differentiating minorities-majorities are played by congress party for their own interest else they would not have removed APJ Kalam as President of India (who was placed by BJP govt.) & placed a puppet as their President who has once washed utensils at India ghandi’s house and will not utter a word against congress party.

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  • Vinay

    It was a pleasant surprise to see Vinodji entering the road of cynicism from his one way lane.

    My disappointment is mainly with Dr. MMS, not Gandhis. Indian middle class trusted Singh. But the month of November changed our perception. He made us understand the difference between clean and efficient. He didn’t have to float a party. He could have just quit politics. But he let us down. A person, who never looked at Modi as a leader an year ago, now looks forward hoping he could be an alternative. It is not communalism. It is the result of frustration due to endless corruption.

    Root of the problem lies with our electoral system. It was formed, when there used to one dominating party not the coalition parties. The multi party system where few members from a ruling party can decide the entire state’s destiny or a party with 20 members can hold entire country for ransom is not workable in our country for long. India right now is using the “first past the post” parliamentary system modelled on UK. The recent parliaments like Scottish, European are following “proportional representation”. Even in UK, some parties are demanding for electoral reform, as the party representation in parliament is not proportional to the votes it received from people. Proportional representation would reduce the dependence of a party with 40% votes to a party that received 2% votes. “Single transferable vote” adopted in Australia also can be an option, as the candidates are not tied to any party and they can vote for the government according to the issue. But voting system may be a bit complicated. Also knowing the corruption level in our country and how a winning candidate is bought by parties, this may not be ideal (Passing every bill will need money). Obviously, if a decission on electoral reform is brought before the parliament, regional parties will be dead against it. But if Congress and BJP can come together for one bill (they have done earlier in the nuclear bill), it can save embarrassment to both the parties in future while addressing corruption issue (as party’s fate will not be dependent on few people). But it has no solution if the party heads themselves are involved. Next election has to be an answer.

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  • Satish Haldankar

    Mr. Advani’s wail about the absence of a V P Singh in the Congress party raises an important point..
    First, there need not be a crusader in the Congress Party. The challenge has to come from the other parties. Also, by his observation has he become realistic and realised that the BJP stands no chance to take on the Congress Party, given its limited appeal on account its Hindutva agenda and the chain of events since 1992, especially 2002?

    Given the experience of V P Singh, who was short-changed by the BJP and others, no Congressman dare revolt against the present dispensation. Can there be any rallying point against the present sorry state of affairs? Perhaps, Nitish Kumar, but at the moment he is at an disadvantage, on account of his association with the BJP, notwithstanding the fact he is not ready to touch Narendra Modi even with a barge pole. On this score, other parties will not sup with him and probably would remain confined to Bihar.

    Most political formations are not ready to align with the BJP after Gujarat 2002. For the BJP to become acceptable and pose a challenge to the Congress Party , they would require a major surgery – jettison the RSS’ ideology and getting rid of all the leaders, who are considered divisive. Surely, this is a very tall order.

    Ideally, we should have two strong national parties, either of them winning a majority every now and then and forming a government. so that both are kept on their toes and prevent any major mischief by either. Where is this second party? Given the above scenario, the Congress Party is blessed with the TINA factor and the people have chosen the lesser of the two evils time and again.
    For the betterment of our country, the Congress Party should not have such an uninterrupted long run.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Congressmen are simply amazing…Samar proves it…No shame..only TINA..

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    vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Samar and Rajeev

    TINA which meant “there is no alternative’ was a term coined by bootlicking sycophants like Mani Shankar Aiyar in the late ’80’s. Basically it meant that the Gandhy parivar is so chikna and perfect, that only they can claim the PM gaddi by inheritence.

    In reality it secretly meant that Mani Aiyar and sycophants had “no alternative” , except boot and foolticking the Gandhi parivar to come to power !! :D :D :D

    Samarbhai, drop that inferioirty complex. In a democracy, even you can be an alternative. And so can be a billion other Indians.

    Of course, for Mani “sycophant” Aiyar, whose English on failed IAS aspirants admire, “There is not other alternative …” :) :) :)

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Rajiv/Vijay Kumar,

    Samar Halarnkar is a journalist with HT and this Satish Haldankar is a mere Sonia boot-licking foot soldier of the madam.

    Please correct yourselves immediately before this bloke starts believing that he too is a celebrated free lance journo.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    When Advani lamented that Pakistanis have forgotten Jinnah and what he said about a secular Pakistan, our media cried foul and said Advani has called Jinnah secular.

    When Advani lamented that congressmen have forgotten V.P.Singh, a true congressman, if there was one, and how he revolted against the corrupt autocrat Rajiv Ghandy and why today’s congressmen have so chickened out that they cannot even whimper against the gigantic corruption of the “remaining Ghandys”, the same media is calling him a VP bhakth. What a travesty of truth!

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  • Pankaj#1

    This post is not against Vinodji;
    He is a small fry. what is happening in India. Hassan Ali of Pune, kalmadi of Pune, Raja of chennai, how these things happened, who was sleeping on all these things. Are we a banana state? Even if, UPA has best intention, where is the result? where is the governanece? This is public money, How, these thugs can get away fom this loot?

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  • ram

    Dear Vinodbhai,

    Please accept the harsh truth that Congress Party is an Ostrich and PM Singh has degraded office of Prime Minister and is openly subservient to Ostrich Like Sonia and Rahul Ganndhi-dynasty. It is shameful; that old guard of Congress continues its sad and shameless loot of Idnia dominate by youth. Is there any surprise that all Congress MPs below age of 40 are dynasts and repeat of Raj Sabha of corrupt Rajas of yore has returned?
    Who is the ruling party-Congress
    Who should take rap-Congress President Sonia Gandhi and PM Singh(any other self respecting and honest leader would have resigned ——–MMS says he is glued to his PM seat stronger than FEVICOL bond——it is accurate that to call him as blind as Dhritarashtra when he claims EXCUSE OF COALITION DHARMA when BHARTAIYA RAJ DHARMA has turned to ADHARMA under his weak and uincompetent rule (refer Gurcharan Das (ex P& G CEO) excellent book

    Please re-think your views as they do not sync with reality at all! Government has mandate to rule and work in long term interest not play with Billion Indian lives

    Regards

    Ram
    Singapore

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  • http://- Rajeev

    My hatred for scumbag VP Singh has no bounds but I admire him for the fact that he brought down criminal Rajiv Gandhi (1984 sikh genocide and bofors fame). India will always be indebted to scumbag VP Singh for bringing down even bigger scumbag Rajiv Gandhi.

    Narasimha Rao missed a great opportunity when he did not banish this stinking Nehru-Gandhi dynasty. Sonia Gandhi was a rogue elements for congressis during those day but some bootlickers like Chidu, Pranab etc. licked dynasty’s boots to bring them to power.

    Next non-congress govt. should expose this dynasty and throw these SOBs out of India with their chamchas.

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  • Vinay

    What has happened to HT suddenly?

    Vinod Sharma is agrees with Advani, no one raises the banner of revolt against the Congress
    leadership from within.
    Kumkum Chadha (who only had good things to say even about the gatekeeper of Gandhi family) is now saying Congress needs astrologers the way it is going.
    Rajesh writes Congress has lost its plot.

    Why everyone deserting Congress overnight? I refuse to believe, it is just a coincidence (or everyone reached the tip of their patience simultaneously). Vijay Kumar, any predictions?

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    Vinay Reply:

    I meant, Vinod Sharma agreeing with Advani.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    No one is deserting Congress. All these journos are genuinely worried about congress’s future because their and congress’s future are interlinked.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Rajeev, Vinay etc
    Arrey bhai gali dena band karo aur behas karo. Is this not a reality that there isn’t a single leader across the spectrum today who can mobilise people on corruption?

    Vinay Reply:

    Vinodji, I always said no party is good. But you always insisted “Congress is better”. Ab tak gaali dena hamara kaam tha. You took our job, so scolding you! If you continue to do this, I will have to retire from the blog. But would be happy to do so.

  • Gautam Gulati

    I am digressing from the subject. I hope this is not ture. The grandmother of all scams.

    Please read this http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?270807

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  • Pankaj#1

    @ Everyone;
    I am now believing in miracles. Vinod making fun of Mani Shanksr Aiyer?? His flight could not land in in Karachi, due to ATC mis communication?? That shows him his place. Can’t these bufoons, understand the psyche of Pakis??. Pakis think themselves at the top, while they are at the bottom of 21 centuary civilization. But, Manishankar and his ilks will go on to try to rehabilitate themselves, much to the amusement of establishment in Pakistan, in the scheme of things.

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @ Mr. Pankaj
    @Mr. Vijay

    Yes gentlemen, your observations with regard to the change of strategy by the congress loyalists are very true. I am sure you would have gone through the article of Sagrika Ghosh in HT just a few days back. That also reflects the same sentiments. Sagrika Ghosh was also wondering why the congress brigade have become so quiet as to be not responding to the public sentiments. She questioned the motives of Sonia Gandhi for not responding to the scams as the case of an Imperial Empress who would consider it below her dignity to answer to every Tom and Harry in the country. Especially, she asked why Rahul is so quiet for having not explained the reasons for the complete wipe out of Congress in Bihar after he had all along campaigned there. Why congress was routed in Delhi University student elections after he had laboured so hard during those student elections?
    Well, now the stage has reached where congress is begging for seats from regional parties in those states where it had ruled with absolute majority in the past. Why has BJP succeeded in Karnataka where congress had been in absolute power? How long congress escape from such questions and to be not doing any introspection.
    Well, you must also have noticed that Mr. Vinod sharma is only concentrating on Mr. LK Advani in the last two successive blogs. After all, how long he could ignore him? It is the same Advani who is responsible for making BJP the single largest party in Lok Sabha in 1996 elections. It is sort of a political revolution the country faced when the BJP strength rose from 2 in 1984 elections, to 86 in 1989, to 121 in 1992 and 161 in 1996 elections. The country has to be grateful to this person for having ended the monopoly of congress as the only ruling party and to have a created a viable option for the masses to look for an opposition party which has never compromised on nationalism and fought for every citizen to be equally treated and no one to be pampered on the basis of religion alone.
    The wind of change can be felt by everyone. How long Congress party will use Dr. MMS as a moral shield to protect it from the corruption scams which have taken over the country during the congress rule.of the last few years?
    BNA

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Dear Dr. Anand;
    You are so right, One can feel it in the air now. carefully constructed MAYA JAAL, is unraveling now.You can see now the journos, who sold their souls for lucre, influence and/ or god knows what else, are suddenly turning virtuous. The job of a journalist, with his training and instincts, is to see real story behind a smokescreen and bring it out to the audience at large. An average person will have more faith in a professional journalist , then say, rumor mongers on the street. Here, since past few months/years, the practice was to create smokescreen, even for things, apparent to every body and their aunts. That was the mass conversion of supposedly ethical society of professional elites of India.
    As an aside, the stratagem, employed by Digvijay Singh for accepting bribe was so simple and so effective, that he could continue his loot without any let or hinderance. Modus operendi was to say, if a contractor, brought an attache, with a crore of rupees, he will take eighty Lakhs, returning 20 lakhs, and ask the contractor to meet leader of the Opposition.Out of Power, leader of opposition, when, no opportunity for getting bribe or wielding influence, this approach of contractor, will gratify his ego and also money is not exactly to sneeze at. Thus, Digvijay, could perpetuate his operations for long time.
    Now, in the whole set up, it is only Indian public, who has been screwed. To make profit out of his contract and to compensate for his 1 crore bribe, contractor will submit, inflated bills, which will take care of engineers, officers and clearks. These inflated bills will be passed and Contractor got payment from state treasury. A work of worth 10 rupees will be charged as 110 rupees, which will be footed by our taxes.It is public money, which is being skimmed by rulers and their allies every where and it is for Indian Public, to unmask them and ask for HISAB.

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    Mr Shenoy
    Yes sir, I should have added what you did to complete the truth 1.e. “Rahul baba brought the party from 161 to 4 in Bihar”.
    BNA

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Advaniji brought the party from 2 seats to 161.

    Rahul Baba brought the party from 161 to 4 in Bihar.

    Now he will bring the party to 2 in Tamil Nadu.

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    Vinay Reply:

    I believe in law of inertia. A body/person will not change its/his state unless compelled by an “external force”. I was enquiring about that force. Realisation is internal and does not come to everyone “at the same time”. Can’t be anymore explicit.

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  • vijay Kumar

    @ Vinay and Shenoy,

    My prediction is

    a) That the Congress has done a voter survey and found out that its clap trap of diverting attention from its own corruptions by shouting out “BJP… BJP…BJP has not fooled anybody and it has seen its vote share fall by t least 5 to 8 % :D

    b) It is more worried about Swami Ramdev who has hijacked the the anti corruption platform and given his platform can easily decimate the Congress.

    c) There are assembly elections around the Corner and then a year later in UP. The Congress is seeing that Yuvraj’s charisma is over. Sadly so have the pro Congress journalists. :D And deep dopwn all know that witht he happenings in the MIddle East, all stories to sell the theory of “natural inheritence” of the Yuvraj will fall flat…. :D :D

    So the Congress had to do something dramatic. And so has the VIPAKSH. The BJP and NDA should sieze this opportunity to shake the royal kingdom

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Vijay

    As for yr mentioning Swami Ramdev, Star News ( with gratitude to the Dirty Tricks Deptt of the Congress Party) carried out a ” BIG KHULASA on Baba Ramdev ” yesterday. That he made a donation of Rs 11 lakhs to BJP by crossed cheque drawn on Punjab Bank in 2009.
    This BIG KHULASA was indeed earth shattering.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ha Ha,
    and how much Sonia congress has collected by force from Hasan Ali, How much kalmadi has given to party funds and Raja without check, in cash? EVERY DAY these rulers, in one form or other, collect crores and crores of rupees from Indian Public, in Bakshish(Ghoos)?? Only people in power can force people to pay and who is in power all these years??
    Yesteryear’s congress was atleast somewhat representative of Indians, do you feel this government is meant for people, By the people or for the people. This gang is only for its gang members..

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  • vijay Kumar

    @ Praveen

    it is alos important to remember that WEEPIE Singh’s sons took investments for construction of commercial Malls in Lucknow from NRI’s and had no intention of returning the money…

    So much for his pretense. Yes , he did reflect the aspirations of the people who wanted a clean government. But he failed…

    a) When he came to power, his Home Minister’s daughter hid at a friend’s house in Kashmir prentding to be kidnapped. In exchange, 6 major terrorists were released…

    b) he gifted 23% inflation to India

    c) He started the Mandal game where everyone was proud of his caste… not by his Indian identity…

    So let us judge him in entireity.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Vijay
    The Mall his son built is in Allahabad. And to add to what u have already said , V P Singh for his dialysis used to go the London., because he said he got fever after dialysis , if it was done in Indian hospitals. All that of course at the tax payer’s expense.

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  • vijay Kumar

    @ Vinod Sharma,

    On behalf of bloggers of India why don’t u request Mani sycophant AIyar to buy a one way ticket to his beloved fatherland.. we are all willing to foot the bill…. :D

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  • RAM AUTAR

    godhra judgement,

    RIGHT-WING movements concoct enemies to consolidate their hold on the masses. Hitler used the Reichstag fire, for example, by portraying the mysterious incident as a communist and Jewish plot, which became a ruse to witch-hunt both the communists and the Jews.

    There are no limits to the imagination in this. It is routine among a growing number of Indians to blame emperor Babar for setting off a chain of events in the 16th century that led to the officially encouraged destruction of the Babri Masjid in 1992.

    The Newtonian law was applied to the lynching of thousands of innocent Sikhs for the assassination of Indira Gandhi. It is used equally vigorously to explain what was otherwise a state-supported massacre of 2,000 Muslims in Gujarat in 2002. The horrific pogrom is thus neatly referred to, including by many unsuspecting liberals, as `post-Godhra riots`.

    A special court last month awarded the death sentence to 11 Muslims and life imprisonment to 20 others after they were charged with conspiracy to murder 59 Hindus by setting fire to a train coach on Feb 27, 2002. Another 63 including an alleged mastermind in the so-called conspiracy were set free. Tehelka

    The verdict went against key facts established by painstaking research by a section of the Indian media led by a sting operation by , a serious and outspoken investigative magazine.

    Its correspondent Ashish Khetan has pieced together a strong rebuttal of the court`s verdict. He has concluded that far from a conspiracy hatched by Muslims, it was the Narendra Modi government that conspired to frame the Muslims in the tragedy, which was otherwise an accident.

    The case largely rested on the testimonies of nine members of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) with a complex political backdrop. It relates to Godhra`s 12 administrative wards, each with three corporator seats. In the December 1999 municipal council elections, the BJP won 11 seats, independent Muslim candidates 16, the Congress five, and four seats were bagged by pro-BJP independents.

    Murli Mulchandani, one of the nine BJP men, had been the president of the municipal council. In 1999, he had contested but lost.

    To form the house in the council, a party needs 19 seats. The BJP had formed the house, supported by five Congress and three Muslim corporators. Raju Darji, a BJP corporator (who claims to be a witness to the fire) was elected president. Deepak Soni, another BJP corporator (also one of the nine witnesses), was appointed president of the education board formed under the council.

    But a year after the elections, 24 corporators — 16 Muslim, five Congress and three Hindu independents — joined ranks against the BJP and moved a no-confidence motion. The BJP lost the house. These 24 now elected Kalota as president of the municipal council.

    During a no-confidence motion debate, Muslim corporator Bilal Haji had beaten up BJP corporator Raju Darji, and a criminal complaint had been lodged against him. In 2002, after the Sabarmati Express carnage, Raju Darji, Deepak Soni and Murli Mulchandani, along with six other BJP members, claimed they saw Kalota, Bilal Haji and three other Muslim corporators `attack the train`.

    What didn`t seem to get noticed by the court was that these nine BJP men claimed they could identify the 41 Muslims they had named — including sundry pickpockets and truck drivers — because they were all Godhra residents. However, when cross-examined, they admitted to their pre-existing enmity with Kalota and others.

    Khetan has shown how the prosecution`s conspiracy theory against Godhra Muslims rested primarily on five sets of witnesses. They were: Tehelka

    — Nine BJP men who claimed to be eyewitnesses to the carnage. However, a sting caught two of these BJP men admitting on camera they were actually at home that day and the police fabricated their statements. They went along to “serve the cause of Hindutva”. The judge has now discarded all nine testimonies

    — Ajay Baria, a Hindu vendor, forced into the plot, saw it all. Judge Patel has relied hugely on Baria`s account. But why would Muslim conspirators pick a Hindu man at the last minute to help load the petrol and burn the train? His mother said he had been coerced into becoming a police witness and lived under constant police surveillance. Tehelka

    — Two petrol pump attendants who claim they sold 140 litres of fuel to some Muslims on Feb 26. Ranjitsinh and Pratapsinh Patel had first told the police that they had not sold any loose petrol that crucial night. In a shocking turnaround, six months later, they changed their version. However, caught Ranjitsinh admitting on camera that he and Pratap had been bribed Rs50,000 by police officer Noel Parmar to do that. He also tutored them to identify particular Muslims in court as being the buyers.

    — Jabir Bahera, a petty criminal, who first named Maulvi Umarji as a mastermind Bahera claimed it was Umarji who picked coach S-6 as the target, but also said Umarji was not at any conspiracy meetings. He later retracted everything.

    — Sikandar Siddique, another petty criminal, said he had pulled the chain the second time to stop the train. Siddique is an obvious unreliable witness. Besides Umarji, he had said Maulvi Punjabi had incited the mob. But Punjabi was not even in the country that day. Tehelka

    Two of these — Murli Mulchandani and Kakul Pathak — were caught on camera telling the reporter that both of them were actually sleeping at home when the incident occurred. However, they said not only they but the other seven BJP `eyewitnesses` had also not been present at Godhra station. karseva

    Pathak also confessed that though all nine were from the BJP, the police had passed them off as Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) members to justify their presence at the railway station. (The call for the Ayodhya or Hindutva volunteers work had been given by the VHP).

    Khetan`s statement about Pathak and Mulchandani was recorded by the special probe team set up by the Supreme Court, in which they admitted on camera that they had fudged their statements. Neither his testimony nor the damning sting footage was produced in the court, for it would have interfered with Newton`s law applied to politically-expedient massacres

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    Mohan Ramchandani Reply:

    This guy goes again with is usual rantings.

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @ Vinod Sharma ji
    @ Mr.Mohan Ramchnadani

    This guy is faking to be some Ram Autar. He has copied and pasted this article originally written by Jawed Naqvi and has appeared ditto in Pakistan newspaper Dawn of March 10, 2011. He has posted this same in the previous blog of Sharma Saheb.
    Sharma Saheb, why are you allowing someone to be plagiarizing some one’s else writing and allowing it to be posted on your blog in his own name? Why you do not keep a watch on such intruders?
    BNA

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    vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Dr Anand, and everyone

    U R right doctor Sahab. I had seen the lier’ Jawed naqvi’s blog which is been posted by “ashamed to be Pakistani’ Autar ! :)

    Meanwhile Pakistan is continuing with its agenda of killing and converting Non Sunni Muslims. After killing Shahbaz Bhatti, it has forced around seven thousand Hindus to migrate to india, very recently,

    One of them– Ram Singh Sodha– happens to be a MLA of PML (Q) from Sindh. he says that though Sindh is comparitvely peaceful as compared to rest of fanatic Pakistan, the pressure on them to convert is so much, and kipnapping of HIndu girls so ramapnt, that he prefers to set up a small shop in Kutch in India , rather than stay in fundamantalist Pakistan.

    He has given up his parliamentary seat to live in India.

    Mar-ja Mar – ja Pakistan !! :D :D :D

    Blasphemy aur apostasy se mar ja Pakistan !! :D :D :D

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    This Ram Fake Autar is a fraud and a gate-crasher alright.

    This forum is for civilised human beings, not for Hindu-hating, Brahmin-baiting mongrels, whose bark is welcome only within the borders of Pakistan.

    This street dog must be asked to stop its shrill barking.

    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BN Anand
    As a policy I don’t remove any post. Moreover, plagiarism is a form of theft in which the thief leaves behind his name —- as in the instant case. :) )

  • sonam

    Read that link provided by Gautam Gulati. The figures mentioned are mind boggling.
    If this is true the loss to the exchequere will be in tune of USD 593 billion.
    That is 2.7 million crores. How can this be true ? I hope not .

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  • Raghavendra

    Mr Vinod

    i would never consider late V P Singh as am honest crusader against corruption because after walking out congress and leading oppposition to 1989 LOK SABHA elections.

    when CBI asked him about BOFORS kickback scandal you know what did he reply? he said that he did not know anything more than a citizen on the street knows.
    a man who makes such a big issue of a scam comes out of that government and when time comes to investigate that scam he raises his hands and says he knows nothing?
    is this honesty Pandit Vindo sharma? that man opened a can worms by his policy of reservations.
    future generations will always feel cheated by Mr V P singh.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Raghvendra
    PL read my blog. It is based on Mr Advani’s lament that there isn’t any VP Singh to turn the outrage over corruption into a political movement. My own view is that VP has as many ad-mirers as detractors on account of Mandal which has since been adopted by all political parties.

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  • s chadha

    it was not vpsingh ,but the charismatic personality of Jp which was the beginning of the anti corruption crusade which emanated from bihar. Jp was never in the running for public office and was a model of political probity —-hence he could become a role model for the masses . Todays leaders like nitish are the product of that movement .VP SINGH was just a shrewd politician —he knew the mess that rajiv was in , hence he opted out —he was just a calculating . shrewsh poiltician like you see nowdays—-
    if a anti corruption campaign has to be led it has to be by a person or rather a group of persons which are held as models of social probity by the masses Baba amte , anna hazare , baba ramadev come to mind —- of these baba ramadev has today the moral reach in the country —what he has done for yoga and indian traditions if he can extend to social issues like corruption will be revoultionary in the country . His bharat swabiman should project on this issue —– the english media , politicians and so called intellectuals are too driven by their own selfish , short term goals to deliver in this respect

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  • Pankaj#1

    @ Everyone;
    The meaning of Balwa is ” Riot” in Urdu. So where from this guy started his career as business man? what is the source of his income? has he paid all the taxes till the point, where he could produce thousand of crores of rupees as draft?? You Indian naives, do not you know that ISI is encircling India. Ansaris in Nepal. Bangla desh HUJI , Kashmiri separatists are all part of nefarious design of ISI and Pakistan. People think this is hype. No this is not. this is reality. Wake up and bring to task all the colloborators of Balwas, Ansaris, Dawoods et al. Your Netas will be burnt in chitas or get buried but generations of Indians will suffer. wake up.

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  • http://- Rajeev

    Today Sagarika ghose conducted a debate on topic “Is Sushma Swaraj going to be PM candidate for BJP?”.

    I see this as a ploy by congress paid media to massage Sushma’s ego (who let Manmohan off hook on CVC) at the instructions of Congress High command, to start an internal war in BJP.

    BJP should see thru these two-faced congressi journalist. Right now most of the congressi journalists are working overtime to insulate Sonia/Rahul/Manmohan from 2G, CWG, CVC etc. scams.

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    Dear Shri Vinod Sharma,

    “His (Advani;s) remarks to The Indian Express are an admission at once of the principal Opposition’s limitations in acquiring the moral high ground VP attained….. ”

    Even if you do not acknowledge it, the BJP has reached unprecedented levels of public acceptability. He was actually mocking at the spineless, ‘jee huzoor-e-walas’ in the congress and the media, who despite finding the party looting the country, cannot raise the banner of dissidence.

    You have also changed the colours of the politics of division practised by VP Singh, who sprang the Mandal agenda on an unsuspecting nation without having even a modicum of a political mandate. Nowhere have you noted that Singh rode to power on the BJP backbone, without which, his so called revolt against Rajiv Gandhi’s corruption would have resulted in a big farce. Instead, you ahve blamed the BJP for trying to unite the Hindu society, brought to the precipice of a civil war by the scheming VP Singh.

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  • vijay kumar

    @ Vinod Sharma,

    V P Singh may have been clean personally at first glance, but below lay a shrewd character who ended up causing a huge amount of damage to India.

    He raised people’s hopes for clean governance, yet just panicked when he was on the hot seat, displaying a weak character who wants to run away from the big show. He was meant to be a No 2, not the top boss.

    One one side he kept telling the BJP– “aap us vivadity sthaan ko masjid kyon kehte ho, ” and on the other side he tried to egg on the Masjid side. And in the end, just to take the steam out of Devi Lal and BJP, launched Mandal….

    If the caste system broke down, it is because of democracy and equal opportunity for which some scheduled caste reservation is necessary. But not for dividing society and reserving jobs and education for prosperous sections like Jats and Yadavs and what not. Mr Weepie Singh ended up pushing India back… and only PV Narasimha Rao with a lack of agenda and the world bank dictated economic policies empowered the average Indian into market economics, which rescued us…

    A waste of a

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  • shikha
  • vijay Kumar

    To people who know Moradabad and the export scene well, the Vadras were small time handicraft exporters. They have NOT shown any sign of becoming bigger in the export line.

    However this tieup with the real estatre giant DLF surely smacks of some mystery. As per the economic times article, DLF has even loaned out to the Vadra venture.

    Let all bloggers put thier hands up and say that DLF will give them 25 crores as loan!! :D :D :D

    Earl;ier to this , Rahul’s and Robert’s name were linked to the BPTP group. In fact Kabul Chawla, a director of BPTP had even given loan to Chief Justice Sabharwal’s sons. The same infamous judge who had given deomlition orders in Delhi….

    TOh bhaiya… sab kuch gol maal hai ….

    — Na baap bada na Bhaiya….

    Sabse bada rupaiya … :D :D :D D:D

    SHarmaji… can you spot th difference between Vadra and Yeddy’s sons???????/// :D :D :D

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Jab har shaakh pe dalle baithe hain, to anjame gulistana to yahi hoga

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    vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Praveen

    U P A = United WE Progress And loot ! :D

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    Rajeev Reply:

    UPA = Ulta Pulta Alliance
    Ullu ka Pattha Alliance
    United Polluting Alliance

    Rajeev Reply:

    Sharmaji suffers from severe constipation when it comes to criticizing his masters.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    Dear Rajeev
    Why can’t u improve your language please. I wouldn’t respond till you do that.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Don’t miss the message for god sake making language excuses.
    I have been always respectful towards you but you have let everyone down by your partisan journalism.

    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Rajeev
    Everybody lives by his own standards. You must respect that basic fact before passing judgements on others.
    What does calling somebody constipated mean? Have I ever shown that kind of disdain for you? If you don’t like my views, you have the right to disagree.And that can be done without calling each other names. I really want to engage with you and many others on this blog. But am often disappointed that the elemental respect that we need to show each other is missing at times.
    Hope you’d take this in the right spirit

  • vijay Kumar

    @ Everyone,

    Since Vinodji mentioned LK Advani, I would also request him to write an open letter to Rahul Gandhi and Robert Vadra on the correct and morally upright behavious, LK Advani has taught his son.

    —> Advani’s son does not claim rightful inheritence of the chair as Shri Rahul Gandhi and Gadaffi and Hosni Mubarak sons do :D

    —-> Advani’s son does not browbeat or cajole businessmen to become crony capitalists or invest in his ventures as Gadaffi’s, Mybarak’s and Rajiv Gandhi’s soon in law does….

    Yes, there is a lot about character, the Gandhy fmaily can learn from Advaniji… :D

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar
    I don’t know robert vadra or Advani’s son Jayant. You seem to be knowing both. So continue with your tirades. I am reading.

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    Shikha, Vijay Kumar and Praveen Saxena,

    Since Vinod Sharma is not likely to respond to you people, let me try to form a reply on his behalf:

    Shikha, Vijay Kumar, Praveen Saxena,

    aap logon ko aur koyee kaam naheen hai kyaa? Bechaaraa Vardra, I know him well (from a distance, of course). He is not the type like Yeddy’s son Raghavendra, who demands a minimum of 100 acres for himself for each clearance of denotification. Are you people aware of this?

    Till the other day, you were accusing bechaari madam of amassing billions of dollars in Swiss banks. Why then this boy should stoop to befriending a low level, disreputable company like DLF?

    Lastly, do not-I repeat, DO NOT- read all the gibberish that appears in ET and even if you read some of it, DO NOT BELIEVE IT.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    You are not my power of attorney sir. pl speak for yourself.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vinodji,

    Sorry for that little prank. I always speak for myself. This was an exception.

    But, whatever I said about Yeddy’s son is true and I stand by it.

    With kind regards

    B.V.SHENOY

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    I liked the poem you sent me the other day. Here take one I received on my mail the other day. I’m sure you’d appreciate.

    SLOW DANCE

    Have you ever 
    watched 
    kids

    On a merry-go-round?

    Or listened to 
    the 
    rain

    Slapping on the ground?

    Ever followed a 

    butterfly’s erratic flight?

    Or gazed at the sun into the 
    fading 
    night?

    You better slow down.

    Don’t 
    dance so 
    fast.

    Time is short.

    The music 
    won’t 
    last.

    Do you run through each day

    On 
    the 
    fly?

    When you ask How are you?

    Do you hear 
    the 
    reply?

    When the day is done

    Do you lie 
    in your 
    bed

    With the next hundred chores 

    Running through 
    your head?

    You’d better 
    slow down

    Don’t dance so 
    fast.

    Time is 
    short.

    The music won’t 
    last.

    Ever told your 
    child, 

    We’ll do it 
    tomorrow?

    And in your 
    haste,

    Not see 
    his

    sorrow?

    Ever lost 
    touch,

    Let a good 
    friendship die 

    Cause you 
    never had time 

    To call 
    and say,’Hi’

    You’d 
    better slow down.

    Don’t dance 
    so fast.

    Time 
    is short.

    The music won’t 
    last..

    When you run 
    so fast to get somewhere

    You 
    miss half the fun of getting 
    there.

    When you worry and hurry 
    through your 
    day,

    It is like an unopened 
    gift….

    Thrown 
    away.

    Life is not a 
    race.

    Do take it 
    slower

    Hear the 
    music

    Before the song is 
    over.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Read the poem posted by Mr Vinod Sharma , and liked it immensely . The poem echoes the feelings of many of my generation ,who would like the GenNext also to read it and imbibe some of these thoughts.
    It was quite timely too , as I have just returned from a visit to my hometown Allahabad, and life there still has time for these small joys. And I am yet to get over the elation of seeing the garden of the house in such bloom. As I opened the gate to enter the house , I was confronted by a riot of colors.The bouganvillas, the dahlias, phlox, pansies, dog flowers,garden nasturtium,poppy were all vying for space.It was indeed Basant time .

    vijay Kumar Reply:

    Beautiful poem Vinodji…

    Made me think … and smile…

  • Pankaj#1

    @ Everyone;
    depressing scene of DMK, with only 16 MPs, half of them already ministers(not enough compensation?)holding UPA by its balls, and not allowing any maneuver on the risk of ACUTE PAIN, has disillusioned me a lot. Why congress did not play SP card before, so as to make DMK, reasonable and not commit this loot of millenium. Governments have changed, in civilized countries, for crimes, 100 times lesser than this loot, some thing of this was present, even in the earlier days of independence, but now?
    Any suggestions?
    1. Calling back colonial powers?
    2. dictatorship ?
    3. Military rule ?
    4. Fascist Government?
    5. Communist dictatorship?
    6. Bringing back Maharajas?
    7 Presidential form of government.
    let us discuss it out. . This drama of 16 people( or any number for that matter) holding mighty(??) central government under thumb, must not be repeated.

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    Vinodji,

    The poem is beautiful. I liked these lines particularly, as they touched my heart:

    Ever lost touch,
    Let a good friendship die
    ‘Cause you never had time
    To call and say,’Hi’.

    It is really funny. I had lost touch with a real good friend who shared my universe in the I and II standards and then went away. I was so thrilled to find him out and meet him last week, after sixty years!

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    You are lucky that you found him. Many others aren’t. Best of luck and best of poetry to u.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    Here’s wishing the same for Vijay and Praveen Sahab.

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  • Anonymous

    Let us not forget the culture of corruption has been nurtured by congress and its offsprings for 60 years..How can it go away just like that? Our media too is corrupt so it finds Anna more than irritant than a solution.
    The KEEDA of congressism has creeped into every walk of our life…until and unless we detoxify this country of congressism, the corruption is here to stay for eternity.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/bappam Bappa Mukherjee

    Critics and detractors of the Anna Hazare movement like Ms. Nandan are displaying an unbelievable degree of petulance. Corruption has infested Indian politics and society at every level. At least, Team Anna has proposed a solution. You can disagree with it only if you offer an alternative. What have you done except nitpicking?

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  • Anonymous

    Team Anna and people who support it are under the mistaken impression that once their version of Lok Pal Bill is passed – there will be no more corruption. How gullible people can be?

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  • Anonymous

    Stop bashing RSS just because you hate them…Rajas and Rajwadas were always supported by Nehru and now Congress has many ministers, MPs and MLAs from Rajwadas.

    Your each and every argument is based on your communal mindset.

    BJP is of the view that smaller states are easy to govern and not what you claim. It is Congress who is into the business of appeasing separatists be it rajwadas or muslims.

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    Abu Ahmed Reply:

    Buddy, I need not hate the RSS – its policies are anti-India and pro high-caste Hindus only. The day the RSS accepts Muslims in its fold and grants them due recognition, I would jump to join it, but I kow it will not.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    RSS is Communal no doubt but it is not anti-India. Coming from a muslim, this is a joke.
    It is not a casteist org. because there are many dalits and OBCs in its top leadership.

    The day muslims start accepting India as their own rather than Saudi and pakistan, RSS will definitely accept them.

    Let us not forget that muslims divided India..they divided many nations world over..there is no RSS in those nation. The muslims are the only problem. Look within.

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    Abu Ahmed Reply:

    The first organization which spoke of 2 nations in un-divided India was the Hindu Mahasabha much before Jinnah took the idea up. Brush up your history buddy. 1857 Ghadar is the best example of Hindu-Muslim unity – after that the British took upon themselves to divide Hindus and Muslims to serve their interests. Pakistan was a place for Indian Muslims till the 50s. after 1965, Pakistan ceased to be an option for Indian Muslims. Saudi Arabia was never, I repeat, never a place for Indian Muslims to settle down. We bow before before the Kaaba, which happens to be geographically in Makkah, SA, but not before any political entity. Doubting the credentials of Indian Muslims has become very old practice of the RSS, that is why it is known as an anti India org’n. Muslims do value their identity wherever they are, and it is their survival instinct, nothing more and nothing less. Muslims are extremely patriotic – they are being demonized in the country to serve some interests, thats all. In Kargill, many more Indian Muslim soldiers sacrificed their lives for their country, much more than their proportion in the army – that is enough proof of their patriotism and love of the country. Extremists may go on beating their drums against Indian Muslims and Islam; they may achieve their limited goals, but when it comes to fighting for the country, Indian Muslims are the first in the firing line to face the enemy. By the way, China is knocking on the door – and only a united India would be able to face that enemy.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are wrong on the first sentence. The first person to see Hindus and Muslims as two separate nation was Syed Ahmed khan who established AMU.

    RSS/Mahasabha was a much later retaliatory movement.

    Till 1857, Hindus-Muslims faught together against Brits and Hindus being large hearted installed Bahaduyr Shah Zafar as King but muslims after 1858 decided to side with Brits under Syed Ahmed Khan.

    It was muslim league who picked up ideology of Syed Ahmed Khan and even before mahasabha was born the idea of pakistan was articulated by Mohammad Ali and then Iqbal.

    In 1946, 90% of muslims of undivide India voted for muslim league in support of pakistan.

    These are all historical facts. I am not saying that all muslims are responsible for partition. There were few greats like Ashfaque Ulla Khan but muslims marginalized such great patriots.

    Now muslims are trying to act clever and shifting the blame of partition on Hindus. The 33% of muslims killed 0.6 million hindus whereas 67% hindu-sikhs killed only 0.4 million muslims during partition.

    The reason why muslims don’t join armed forces in great numbers is that majority of them don’t want to fight fellow muslims i.e. pakistan.

    lastly you may be a patriot but majority in your community of opportunist patriots or downright traitors.

  • Anonymous

    Sunita,
    The ideological argument behind dividing big state is that smaller states are easy to govern but from political point of view, it means more CM, more ministers, more MLAs and more avenues for corruption.

    I agree with governing part but the real benefit of divisions will be reaped only by politicians.

    I am against this division business because it will open pandora box and we will see similar demands thruout India. This needs to be stopped else India will go back to 570 odd principalities…We don’t want pre-1947 India. Let us not destroy Sardar Patel’s India.

    Instead we should move towards keeping states intact but divide them into development zones with each zone getting proportional funds based on area and population and a Dy. CMs under CM to manage the zones. However the word of CM should be final on all issues.

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  • http://www.desibits.com/ Avinash

    The question is not whether there was violation of any provisions of the Constitution but still there are certain ethics, and established practices to think, discuss and then come to some conclusions after having taking into confidence some eminent personalities or at least the political parties. The way or in a haphazard manner the Bill was approved in the UP assembly the intentions of Mayawati are clear. Her eyes are focused on the forthcoming elections in the State in early months. If the provisions of the constitution not abused but for sure have not been respected either in a democratic manner it should have been done. There are certain ethics, certain established precedents but in politics who cares????????.

    The need of the hour is to have a national debate on such issues and there should be certain amendments made in the Constitution ensuring that the politicians with malafide intentions does not succeed.

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  • Anonymous

    why is it that all HT writers/editors/journalists find everything wrong that non congress leaders does and right in whatever the most incompetent/corrupt and shameless party called congress does. 70 years of struggle makes division of UP/uttarakhand a good case ? Up being the most populous state still is most unmanageable state. It is still a candidate of further division. If it had come from Rahul Gandhi, every single writer of HT from Pankaj Vora to Vinod Sharma would be clapping and saying wah wah kya idea hai!!!

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    Kunal Reply:

    that’s cause HT is Congress propaganda newspaper. it is not impartial or objective…if you want to read good analysis read DNA or The Hindu. I come here to see the reaction in the commentary section.

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    Saron Reply:

    Sorry Rohit — there should be proper ground work and homework before taking such major decisions. They are not done in a huff. Its not a question of non congress governments doing — but the haste in which it has been done

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  • Anonymous

    Coming on the eve of elections to the state assembly, Mayawati has played her trump card of dividing the state into 4 parts in the hope that the people will forget all about her misgovernance of 5 years and accept the argument that UP has remained backward just because of its unmanageable size and Centre’s step-motherly treatment and that smaller manageable states will bring them more central funds and freedom from manipulations of leaders of richer regions or whatever.. It is a pity that the present day political leaders cover their governance sins by diverting people’s attention to issues that will further exacerbate their misery. It is a pure and simple election stunt. Hopefully,the people will see through her loaded game and vote for the candidates who are capable of pulling the state out of the economic and political morass it has fallen into because of the questionable activities of its socalled democratic rulers. How does she justify erecting her statues and amassing wealth disproportionate to the known sources of her income and reluctance to explain how the central funds were used..

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  • http://digitalblogindia.in/ Kunal

    The other smaller states like Jharkhand, Chattisgarh and Uttarakhand are not really doing that great even after separation. What makes one think that UP will do well after dividing into 4 smaller states ? It will just hog more money from the centre when that money could have been used elsewhere. It’s time the Gadgil formula be changed so that bigger states like Maharashtra gets it’s due share from the centre.

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  • Saron

    Then there is all the more reason to learn from history – two wrongs can’t make one right

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  • Anonymous

    Read history first..It is not communalism but bare facts that you want to hide under the patronage of pro-muslim Congress.

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  • Anonymous

    Rana,
    But the fact remains muslims divided India. In west pakistan hindus-sikhs were reduced to 1% from 22%. In East paksitan i.e. BD, hindus were reduced to 8% from 28%.

    Pakistan was meant for south asian muslims but now India has as many muslims as pakistan. However muslims still claim that hindus are communal and muslims are victim.

    Ulta chor kotwal ko daantein.

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  • Kushal

    Pathetic, just as I thought.

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  • Kushal

    Are you calling me a buddhi, Kanika?

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    Kanika Dhupar Reply:

    Arrey baba I calld you hawt three day ago in a picture you are trying to slink to the corner. Need I say more Bunny *winks*

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  • Kushal

    Thank you, Parmanu.

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  • Anamika

    Going through some endings in my life as well…it’s good of you to have shared yours. Good to know that you can hold on while letting go.

    Thank you for sharing

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    Kushal Reply:

    Hope the endings are not all sad, Anamika.

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  • Kushal

    Hug.

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  • Rajiiiv

    You left out the conclusion: Indian foreign policy towards Pakistan is un-professional, emotional and divorced from the reality that the Pakistan state is corrupt and dishonest to the core and any engagement with it will only bring deceit.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_URSXATBEMZ7HUAB3OH36PLYWDM Ashok

    What the columnist has left unsaid is that the warmth – affection may not quite be politically correct, it is still barely spring, not summer – that Indians show Pakistanis is reciprocated on the other side of the border as well. That it exists despite the history and record of the last sixty five years is a very hopeful portent for the future.

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  • Muhammad Ahsan

    Great, article. But brother although a lot of efforts are being done, not only within the political scope of Pakistan, but from foreign influences too, to make us have a negative view of India.

    I as a 100% Pakistani, love India, your country is so diverse in it’s beauty, not to mention, the Islamic history it has also.

    As you ended terrorism is a problem, and I hope we solve it, so our neighbors can be pleased with us, so we can also live safely.

    Again, we love you, not hate. We believe in ” kar bhala, so ho bhala”. InshAllah right leadership will come forth in our country, and we will treat India, as a great neighbor that the truly are.

    - From your brother, from Lahore, Pakistan.

    Khudahafiz.

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  • Ag

    Isn’t it bothersome that we are so fawning over Pakistanis even after being kicked in the shin many many times? It is not a strength to be glorified, but a weakness to work on and eliminate.

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  • Ag

    You should check your logic. Vir Sanghvi’s views on the impact of strong Pakistan is not at odds with this piece.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Being illogical is so much easier.

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  • RajX

    Indian society has this gift of spinning it’s weakness as a strength. Welcoming a leader of a country who have promised to bleed us with a thousand cuts is suicidal to say the least. Do people remember the Mumbai attacks, parliament attack, serial bombing carried out Dagwood “bhai” with Pakistani rdx

    We even spin our relationships with even our past colonizers. For example, we claim that we have a “historical” relationship with Iran. Strangely no one cares to expand on the nature of this “relationship” for a very good reason. This “relationship” is that of the one between a slave and a master.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Vir Sanghvi

    rehabilitation in the public eye wont come by censoring comments for sure. People would feel that you something to hide. let it be a free debate. People even may say the harshest things… but be brave enough to face them.

    Amongst teh HT blog sites, Vinod Sharma gets 1500 or so comments for every posting. Yours are stuck at 10 to 15 now…

    Well… I think you should learn to respect public sentiments…

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  • Sumit Bose

    I fail to comprehend the selective outrage of the Muslims. When Muslims massacre Muslims ( Darfur, Iraq etc etc) the entire muslim world and the street-corner rabble-rousing mullas are suspiciously silent. When other communities react to the provocations of the muslims, the entire “ummah” suddenly erupts in loot/plunder mode.
    It was interesting to note that no SMSes were sent out in Gujarat, and in Gujarat no people of the North East, (who are there in large numbers) felt the insecurity to leave Gujarat.
    As if the tragedy was not not enough, our Indian government has reduced the sufferings of thousands to a comedy, accusing Pakistan for this all! Which translates, that the mobsters who terrorized the thousands to leave so many cities will face no force of the law catching upto them!

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  • pooja gupta

    hindu hai hi kutti qaum l0ve pak

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  • pooja gupta

    gandhi (late) khusath ne india azaad karwake bht bara paap kiya hai halanke ab iski awashakta nhe rahi bharat **** bhagwan **** are koi 1 ho toh bolo sale 15, 16 toh bhagwan hain mein hun to indian gharane se par india ka riwaaj aur taur tareeke dekh kar ajiz hun i l0ve allah n i love pak.

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  • salma

    inke bollywood ko bs rona hi ata he are hollywood ki naqal karke filmein banate hain aur pak ko apne se kam tar samajhte hai india puri duniya par bojh he, YA ALLAH UTHALE IS INDIA KO TAKE ZAMEEN PAR SAKOON AJae AMeeN.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002281383123 Deepak Kumar

    I, hope pakistan lives long for this slogan

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002281383123 Deepak Kumar

    This is the story of issac and ishmael,issac is the legitimate son of Abraham and sarah.Ishmael born to hagar a servent of sarah not a rightfull son, That is why all muslims are socially Misfit people.

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