Everybody killed Aarushi Talwar



The law considers one as innocent until proved guilty. But not the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) whose closure report in the Aarushi murder case is a scandal. It names the victim’s father, Rajesh Talwar as a suspect but wants the case closed in the absence of clinching material evidence.

Consider the following: Aarushi’s parents, especially her father Dr Rajesh Talwar, are now destined to lead a life of infamy as suspects in the murder of their own child. For them the closure of investigations opens possibilities of social ostracism from which—given the kind of milieu in which we live–there is no acquittal or respite. It’s worse than being sent to the gallows or condemned to a life in prison.

The CBI would have done better to leave the matter to the Court by chargsheeting the suspect and his accomplices. That would have afforded Dr Talwar a good chance of acquittal — honourable or otherwise. But the probe agency deemed it fit to assume the powers of a Court by declaring him a suspect (which for people at large means guilty) purely on the basis of circumstantial evidence.

By leaking the closure report to the media, the CBI also negated the benefit of doubt it gave to Aarushi’s father for want of material evidence. In fact, the report to the Court explains at considerable length the dressing up of the crime scene, denial of information and attempts to manipulate forensic tests.

If that’s the case, then why have Dr Talwar and his wife Nupur not been booked for destroying evidence? That by itself is a criminal offence. The conduct of Aarushi’s uncle, Dr Dinesh Talwar who wanted a forensic report sans any reference to rape, also falls in that ambit.

It was in May 2008 that Aarushi was found slain in her bedroom together with Hemraj Banjade— a domestic help whose body was discovered a day later on the terrace of the Talwars’ Jalvayu Vihar flat in NOIDA. The public outrage over the tragedy and the subsequent shoddy investigations have kept the case in the headlines. The murder mystery has rankled Urban India no less than the Jessica Lal, Priyadarshini Mattoo, Shivani Bhatnagar, Vidya Jain and the Chopra children murder cases.

The acquittal of politically well-connected accused in the Jessica case by a lower Court had triggered unprecedented middle class opprobrium so tellingly reflected in a newspaper headline — “Nobody Killed Jessica Lal” that has since become the title of a Bollywood film. It wouldn’t be wrong to conclude in the instant case that EVERYBODY KILLED AARUSHI — the real accused, the parents and policemen — and let the tragedy fester as wound that wouldn’t heel. Not anytime soon.

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  • vijay kumar

    @ Vinod Sharma

    Your blog on this issue is timely. This case has bought out the worst beast in the media and the CBI. I still remember the media reports giving lurid reports on the “free for all’ parties the Talwars were supposed to be attending and the astonishing tarnishing of the dead girls character.

    However I have followed to case closely and in my heart I know that it would be very difficult for an educated parent to hit and kill his daughter, whatever the provocation. Yet somehow two murders happening in an apartment where you are staying an you dont get to know, too is difficult to believe.

    My own view till last week was that the Talwars had nothing to do with this. Yet, with the new issues being tossed up by the CBI, one starts having doubts.

    There are some jigsaws which make one think the unthinkable.

    a) The reactions of the parents which focus on “we are innocent’ rather than outrage at being falsely convicted and sadness at losing theit only child.

    b) the locked terrace door mystery,

    c) COuld there be a third angle to it. Maybe some freind of Hemraj, who dropped in for a drink and then went ahead with murder?

    Since one doesn’t have all the facts, I think it would be wrong for me to guess.

    But the Killer has to be found. Even if one thinks the unthinkable. And if the parents are innocent, then may god give them strength to fight this one out.

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    onkar Reply:

    Your third angle view is effective.Prima facie , I think some one dropped in, drugged the food, probably poured sedatives.Enjoyed and killed hemraj for the reason of anonymity and then fled away after murdering.

    The mobile been found in bulandshahar and the way traces/evidence were washed, points out to a high profle person involved, under whose hands hemraj too became victim.The killer has to be trapped, not traced.

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    Abhinav Reply:

    This story doesn’t have any base. Hemraj’s friend cannot be high profile. If this guy was not hemraj’s friend, then why would he let him in? If this guy is friend of talwars, hemraj would have informed them about his presence.

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  • ishwar

    Mr. Sharma,

    And you want the same CBI to probe the 2G scam?

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Ishwar
    Please, please Ishwar, we are discussing here a little girl and how cruel destiny has been to her. I am sure the courts will closely supervise what goes on further in this case —- as in the probe into
    the 2G scam.

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    I would hesitate to condemn the CBI for not solving the murders. The most I can say is that the CBI shouldn’t have rushed to declare the case closed.

    As for Arushi’s parents, they seem to be protesting too much and too loudly, now that they know for a fact that the threat of the CBI filing a charge sheet against the father has receded greatly. But, the mystery would require a Sherlock Holmes to solve it. The CBI is plainly out of its depth here.

    It was wrong for the CBI to get involved in the case particularly when any traces of evidence had, according to them, been “altered”. They should confine themselves to foisting political cases against the opponents of the congress regime, an area in which they have unmatched expertise.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Shenoy saab
    Bizzare as it may sound , but going by the issues raised by the present team of the CBI as well as so many other factors which we note from the TV visuals and interviews of the parents , the needle of suspicion certainly points towards the parents.
    As for the expertise of the CBI you have rightly said is the furtherance of the political agenda of the government.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Dear Praveen Saxenaji,

    It is so distasteful to talk about this case, because, a young, full-of-life girl was mercilessly murdered with clinical precision. As you have said, the needle of suspicion points to the parents, which, again, dil nahin maanta hai. However much one tries to fix the case within logical boundaries, still your heart refuses to accept the only conclusion that you arrive at.

    As for the UP police, who were investigating the case from day one, it is absolutely clear that they have shown themselves to be the most corrupt and evil force in the whole world, who could, for a few thousand rupees, erase all useful clues and evidences. May God hand down the cruellest punishment to each one of them.

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    S S Kere Reply:

    I agree with Mr Shenoy. Why is CBI closing the case – a case involving two murders? There is no statute of limitations in a case of murder, i.e. a murder case is never closed. [I hope that is so in India as it is in the US] Some cases of murder may never be solved; but they are not closed in the legal sense. CBI report is saying that there is not sufficient evidence to bring a case against the parent/s. As is common in India, the police seem to have botched the case owing to incompetence or corruption or both.

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  • Rajiv

    I would like to bring the focus of the blog to Indo-Pak issues.

    Here is an statement by Kashmiri leader Prof Abdul Gani Bhat , ex chairman of Hurriyat conference about lies the Kashmiri leaders tell their people.

    Must read for everyone here.
    news. outlookindia. com/item.aspx?707116

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    Lies the Kashmiri leaders tell their supporters
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    Exonerating the Indian forces of long-held allegations of assassinating prominent Hurriyat leaders- Mirwaiz Maulvi Muhammad Farooq, Abdul Gani Lone and JKLF ideologue Prof. Abdul Ahad Wani, leader of the Hurriyat Conference’s moderate faction Prof. Abdul Gani Bhat admitted for the first time today, that the killings were actually ‘an insider’s job’.

    Prof. Abdul Gani Bhat, who was the chairman of the Hurriyat Conference when it was split into the hardline and moderate factions, categorically stated at a seminar on Sunday that the security forces had played no role in the killings of Mirwaiz Maulvi Farooq, Abdul Gani Lone as well as Prof. Abdul Ahad Wani.

    “Lone sahib, Mirwaiz Farooq and Prof. Wani were not killed by the army or the police. They were targeted by our own people. The story is a long one, but we have to tell the truth,” he asserted, stopping short of naming any terrorist group which killed them or delving into the circumstances under which the murders took place.

    Asked to identify the killers, Bhat said, “What is the need to identify them…. They are already identified.”

    The separatist leader was addressing a seminar on ‘Role of intellectuals in the Kashmir movement’ organised at a local hotel by JKLF chairman Muhammad Yasin Malik to commemorate Wani’s death anniversary. The slain Mirwaiz Maulvi Farooq’s son, present Hurriyat Conference chairman Umar Farooq also did not contradict Bhat when he spoke at the seminar after him.

    Speaking at the meet, Bhat, a professor of Persian at Sopore Degree College, said: “If you want to free the people of Kashmir from sentimentalism bordering on insanity, you have to speak the truth. Former Prime Minister of Pakistan Zulfikar Ali Bhutto once said that sometimes truth escapes the mouth. Here I am letting it out.” He was also forthcoming in saying that the present movement against India was started by “us killing our intellectuals”.

    He added: “Wherever we found an intellectual, we ended up killing him. Let us ask ourselves: Was Prof Wani a martyr of brilliance or a martyr of rivalry?”

    Mr Bhat, considered a moderate separatist, also seemed to be criticisng hardline leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani, when he said: “There was a hartal for five months and 112 people died. And at the end of it there is nothing by way of achievement. This is what happens when there is no thinking, no strategy. If you want to rid people of Kashmir of sentimentalism bordering on insanity, you have to speak the truth.”

    Mr Bhat also criticised those who have been politicisng the deaths of Kashmiris: “These leaders still hail these sacrifices as if their only purpose is to get people killed… for the sake of it.”

    Taking potshots at the rival Hurriyat group for adopting double standards, he said: “When we entered into talks with New Delhi, we were accused of being kafir (non-Muslim), and when you (the hardliners) talk you get away scot-free. This dichotomy in Kashmir politics should end.”

    Bhat also refused to be a part of any unity process between the separatist groups initiated by Umar Farooq. He avowed he would not be associated with any such move that would mean the “hegemony or aggrandisement of any person”, making an oblique reference to Geelani.

    Commenting on the five-month long protests and strike which jolted Kashmir in 2010, he said the Kashmiris did not achieve anything through this, adding that the local intellectuals refrained from writing on the issue.

    Bhat, also expressed doubts if Pakistan would ever fight a war over Kashmir with India, “It is unlikely as both the nations understand its consequences.” He also advocated against an armed movement against India in Kashmir, saying: “It will not have support from any quarter. What next? We should do the talking,” he said.

    Spelling out the benefits, he said negotiation was an art and the right way to move forward.

    Bhat said that his brother Mohammad Sultan Bhat also fell to the bullets of those espousing the separatist cause.

    “I had said this then and I am saying it now. There is no ambiguity or confusion in my mind,” he said.

    Reactions to Bhat’s Remarks

    Other moderate Hurriyat leaders chose to maintain a studied silence on Bhat’s remarks.

    Geelani refused to comment on the statements made by the former Chairman of the undivided Hurriyat Conference.

    “I have nothing to say about their remarks,” Geelani told PTI.

    CPI(M) state secretary M Y Tarigami said Bhat’s statement was “revealing” and the incidents need credible investigation.

    “A credible investigation should be carried out so that responsibility for the killings is fixed,” Tarigami said.

    Sajjad Gani Lone, the youngest son of the slain leader, had blamed Geelani for the killing but retracted his statement few years later.

    Jammu and Kashmir’s Director General of Police Kuldeep Khoda said that “the person involved in the killing of Mirwaiz Farooq is also buried in the same ‘martyrs’ graveyard’ where the senior Mirwaiz was laid to rest”.

    “So this explains a lot. The killer and the killed are both declared as martyrs by them,” Khoda said.

    A senior Hurriyat leader, who did not wish to be named, said there was nothing new in Bhat’s remarks.

    “Bhat has made the same speech in ‘Azad Jammu and Kashmir’ (Pakistan-occupied Kashmir) Assembly five years ago,” the leader said.

    Bilal Lone and Mirwaiz chose not to react to the statement.

    Sources in the Hurriyat said that the leaders of the amalgam will maintain a “meaningful” silence over the remarks.

    The moderate faction of the Hurriyat is unhappy with the way Geelani had handled the recent summer unrest in the Valley as many of them questioned the tactics of strikes and stone-pelting during a seminar yesterday.

    State Law and Parliamentary Affairs Minister Ali Mohammad Sagar described the admission by separatists as a “good development”.

    “It has taken them very long to admit the reality but it is better late than never,” Sagar said.

    He said the separatist leaders have to be “realistic” if they are serious about resolution of the Kashmir issue and should stop treating the mainstream parties as “untouchables”.

    “We have to sit together if Kashmir issue has to be resolved permanently. The separatists should support and strengthen the efforts of Chief Minister Omar Abdullah in this direction,” he said.

    Condemning the statement, radical women’s outfit Dukhtaran-e-Millat said, “Bhat and Lone are out to sabotage the ongoing movement.”

    “The true leadership of Kashmir is put behind the bars and they are not even allowed to put forth their point of view before the people. Holding seminars is a far cry,” acting chairperson of Dukhtaran Rifat Fatima said in a statement.

    Kashmiris are now educated enough to differentiate between the genuine leaders and impostors, she said.

    I May Suffer But Let Me Not Seal My Mouth: Bhat

    After his remarks, Bhat said he might have to suffer but will not seal his mouth.

    “By recognizing this stark reality, I am afraid I may also suffer, but let me suffer, let me not seal my mouth,” Bhat told PTI.

    The Hurriyat leader said he was determined to speak the truth irrespective of whether others do so or not. “I have said what I have said and I stand by it,” he said.

    In response to a question about unity efforts among the separatists, Bhat said it was “irrelevant” at the moment and that he would take a decision about it in his individual capacity if such a development takes place.

    “I have never been part of and never will be part of any meaningless exercise. Why are you flogging us with the unity lash,” the Hurriyat leader said.

    Kashmir has Gained Nothing in Past Six Decades: Yasin

    Earlier, JKLF chairman Muhammad Yasin Malik, in his address, said Sheikh Muhammad Abdullah was the tallest leader Kashmir produced in the past 63 years. But added the Kashmir conflict dwarfed even the Sheikh.

    “This holds true for all of us. Not one among the present crop of leaders should think that we are above Kashmir,” he said.

    Malik felt that in the past six decades, the Kashmiris had gained nothing, “We have given sacrifices and gone through bitter experiences. But there has been no achievement,” he said.

    Local Kashmiris as well as secessionists have long held the security forces responsible for the killings of Mirwaiz Maulvi Farooq, Wani and Lone, slain in three separate incidents.

    Mirwaiz Maulvi Farooq was murdered in cold blood on May 21, 1990 when unidentified gunmen barged into his Srinagar residence and assassinated him. Later, more than 60 people were killed when CRPF personnel fired upon his funeral procession near Islamia College in Srinagar. The firing on the mourners reinforced the ordinary Kashmiri’s suspicions, aired by the separatists, that that government was behind Mirwaiz’s killing.

    A TADA court, however, jailed former militant Muhammad Ayub Dar last year for the killing. The CBI charge sheet said Dar, along with two other terrorists, shot the Mirwaiz. Its charge sheet named five Hizbul commanders also.

    Wani was killed on December 31, 1993, by unknown gunmen. He was a professor of law in Kashmir University and an advocate of the JKLF’s views. The academic was in the vicinity of the Hazratbal shrine en route to the university when he was shot.

    Moderate Hurriyat Conference leader Lone, the father of Sajjad (the first separatist leader to stand in a general election) and Bilal, was killed on May 21 in 2002. He was gunned down by unidentified assailants at a rally to mark the death anniversary of Mirwaiz Maulvi Farooq at Eidgah ground in old Srinagar city.

    The leader was fired upon seconds before the ceremony was to end. Bhat, then the Hurriyat Conference chairman, was also present at the rally. No charge sheet was filed either in the case of Wani’s or Lone’s killings.

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    Saarthak Reply:

    Thanks for posting the article Rajiv. Its enlightening

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    Rouf lone Reply:

    What Prof Bhat has said is common knowledge in the households of the valley,the present Hurriat is between the devil and the deep sea
    The Hurriyat is scared of the the families whose children’s they have lured into militancy to be killed or maimed
    They are scared that this “industry” of militancy which gave them money and fame will collapse and reveal their true self to the world beyond the valley

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    Rajiv Reply:

    @Rauf Lone
    So as a Kashmiri, if your leadership is in such a state, how can peace and progress come to the valley ?

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  • Rajiv

    Basically , 3 top leaders of Kashmir separatists that have been killed in last 20 years : All killed by jihadi Pak sponsored Kashmir-punjabi militants, for not being Jihadi-Talibani-criminally-Pakistani enough.

    Everyone knows that. Its good that ex chairman of Hurriyat conference has found enough courage to publicly articulate it.

    Truth may lead to a solution , lies will only make the situation worse.

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    Hello Rajiv

    I had posted in the last blog about the courage and boldness shown by Mr. Bhat in disclosing these facts. The response of Mr. Bilal Lone that truth must prevail is an admission of a fact which he had not enough courage to say. There is no denying the truth the the peace in Jand K is hostage to Hurriyat leaders who have been only pursuing their agenda on behalf of foreign powers. Well, someone is financing their activities. But the statement of Mr. Bhat has blown the lid off Hurriyat’s character.
    It will be worth knowing what forced Mr. Bhat to admit and disclose these facts.
    BNA

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    Rajiv Reply:

    Hello Mr Anand,

    The statement of Mr Bhat and B Lone, that everyone in Kashmir knows who killed the Hurriyat leaders also exposes the callousness of Indian press who give wide coverage to callous and criminal statements of the killer and communalist Geelani, whose faction is involved in these killings, but he makes blatantly false allegations against India.

    The question is why does Indian media, lend itself to false and criminal propoganda against a known communal killer and thug Geelani ?

    Naxalite criminals like A Roy and sections of Indian media are close to the criminal Geelani faction of Hurriyat who are paid for by ISI.

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    Hello Rajiv

    I have stopped taking the media in our country seriously. After all, they do not seem to be free as it is pretended to be. They are controlled by the big political and industrial mafia and every news item is posted as per the dictates of the bosses. I really can not decide which newspaper to read and which not to read. This statement by Mr. Bhat should have been highlighted and commented upon but ——-. Whatever the issue may be, the media alwaysconverts it into a boxing match between BJP and Congress. I am sure if the demand for JPC had come from any party other than BJP, the govt. would have considered it seriously and might have even agreed. God bless our country.
    Thanks for your response
    BNA

    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Dr B N Anand
    May help you chose a newspaper?

    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @Vinod Sharma ji

    Sure, why not.!!!
    But at the moment I am so addicted to HT that somehow I am keeping up with it though at times I find it also disgusting.
    BNA

    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @Vinod Sharma ji
    As a PS to my above post, I must mention that today I liked the main editorial in HT “Coloured by politics which in the end says that “Terror may have many faces but certainly not different colours.” In the process also deploring the Congress party, especially Mr. Digvijay Singh for vitiating the atmosphere in the country by its selectively targeting terror in terms of colour and thus using it for political one-upmanship”.
    BNA

  • Vik

    Vinodji,

    Thanks for a very level headed analysis from you, as usual. But definitely very unprofessional work from CBI, which is now becoming a norm for this premier investigating agency. We do not want to jump to the conclusions but, CBI is leaving a lot of questions unaswered in their closing report. CBI is way behind in adopting modern technology in the forensic science, which is quite advance these days. I can not imagine, in no way, the golf stick (used by killer) can be cleaned without leaving blood trace – unless it was chemically treated. I think CBI is failing the country by not even solving these high profile cases despite such a close public scrutiny, and loosing the public confidence. I think they should pull up their soxes, and should do better work of investigation. They appear to more focussed on PR thanany real professional work. I agree there is ovewhelming evidence, and CBI should go for a trial on circumstancial evidence. That would have sent a right massage.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Dr BN Anand
    I want to see you happier— so think about the Pioneer? :) ) It’s edited by Dr Chandan Mitra, BJP MP, my friend and a former Editor of HT.

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @Vinod Sharma ji

    Thank you sir. But I think either you misunderstood me or that you are kidding. The one you suggested may not be the exact what I wanted. But honestly and seriously I want an independent media paper which is not biased. It must be an impartial one in its comments and news coverage so that I can make my own opinion. Please try again. Thanks in anticipation.
    BNA

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @DR B N Anand
    The Hindu is my favourite paper. It gives me complete news — national, regional and international. Try that — in addition of course to HT.

  • http://prao p.rao

    Needless to say,this case has gripped the imagination of the masses.Being an astrologer,my first impulse was to study the birthcharts of the girl and her parents.aarushi’s chart did paint a picture of short life and a violent death.The tendencies in parents’ chart show them to be implicated in the crime,as it shows litigation issues on the horizon,which they’re currently mired in.Suspicion thus hangs heavily on them.The need to “dress up” the crime scene,the haste to immerse the ashes at haridwar,the appearance of golf club an year later,erasure of evidence certainly reeks of a known killer.

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  • nirav

    Mr Vinod,

    And you still want CBI to investigate the 2G scam:)
    Why dont we just say untill we have an independent CVC and a lokpal,,CBI is corrupt bureau of investigation and is not more useful than a used toilet wipe.It stinks and can only add to shit.
    We need an independant and non tainted CVC so he can appoint the right director CBI and then we need a Lokpal to tell the politicians to shutup in any inquiry…
    Once a great organisation all parties have like termite hollowed the CBI.

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  • Simply Human

    CBI did not conclude that Rajesh is guilty but merelt that he is their only suspect whom they couldn’t rule out. What is wrong with this?

    Perhaps Mr. Vinod is unaware that most legal systems throughout the world including Indian allow death penalty based on circumstantial evidence. In the absence of material evidence the circumstantial evidence has to substantial. In this case, CBI could not accumulate enough evidence to chargesheet anyone and they did not.

    As far as trial by media is concerned, I have mostly seen it to be positive – even in this case. After following this case for two years, it appear to be that Aarushi’s parents were swingers who used to lock Aarushi to keep a lid on their carnal pursuits. There were reports that Aarushi was a troubled teenager who shared some of this info with her friends. It was also reported that neighbors used to avoid this family. This was certainly not a normal family. If the servants have been ruled out and there were no signs of struggle and crime scene dressed up properly along with tampering of post mortem process by her family, is it any wonder that the needle of suspicion strongly points towards parents? Do we even need the CBI’s statement to form this opinion?

    If Aarushi’s parents are innocent then why they did not come clean about their lives? It would have been so much easier to just state the truth about the lives they were leading, Aarushi’s mental state and cooperate with the investigation beyond the narco tests?

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  • Naina Pandita

    Who killed Aarushi would be in many minds. The calmness that the parents have shown over the 2 years is also sad…they waited for 2 long years and did not protest like Priyadarshni’s father or Jessica’ s sister and other similar cases. Justice cannot be served unless one wants it to happen. When the parents discovered the body why did they wrap it up in a clean sheet and why was the blood soaked mattress thrown on the neighbor’s terrace? They both were doctors and educated and knew that they should have not tampered with evidence. Dont blame the CBI as they came in late to solve the case. The murder scene had already been tampered with onlookers coming in and out of the house. Blame the UP police for not sealing the murder scene and blame the parents for cleaning up the house.

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    Raj Reply:

    In case of Priyadarshini Matoo and Jessica, killers were somewhat known, there were some eyewitness in both cases, the motive to murder was also established, both the killers were highly influential and police were not doing their job for wrong reasons. That is when the protest started from all sources to book the culprits so that they dont excape as they were influential and circumstantial evidence were pointing to them

    In case of Arushi that is not the case, lets assume parents are innocent and their persoanlities are such they are not able to cry aloud that their daughter is dead then what?

    There is no eyewitness, no evidence, there is no motive established, events are distored, mobile phone found elsewhere etc? There are many loose ends and no proper direction. That is making the Aarushi case very tough

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  • Vijay Kumar

    While I have full sympathy for Aarushi and pray that her killer– whosoever it be– must be caught, another disturbing thought racks my brain.

    THAT THE TIMIING OF THIS CASE CLOSURE IS AN ATTEMPT BY THE CONGRESS AND CBI TO DEFLECT ATTENTION FROM 2G and QUOTROCHHI !!

    With a single stroke the media is debating the Talwars again. While the CBI closure report seems to be hastily filed.

    Can this be true??

    Thew Indian Express reveals that Swapan Doshi Digvijay is assosciated with Burney whose book says that 26/11 was a conspiracy by RSS, CIA and Mossad. If a Congress general secretary can fall to such depths, so can the Congress as a whole….

    Hey ram ! Hai Allah…. agli election mein COngress ke hath se usko thapad maaro …. :D :D

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    Saarthak Reply:

    Vijay, I have the same suspicions. Manufacturing Consent by Naom Chomsky explains this phenomenon quite well.

    The media itself would have been greatly delighted to deflect the public attention from Radiagate.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay
    You are a great conspiracy theorist. Extending your argument, the government must be happy with rising prices as they deflect attention much better than any other issue. :) )

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    vijay Kumar Reply:

    Cmon, Vinodji… u know as well as me… that the media is suddenly focussing on Talwar and has forgotten 2G …

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar
    I am afraid you are reading it wrong.

  • malini

    CHOR MACHAEY SHOR
    The parents behavior is highly suspicious from the very beginning till date.

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    HPN Reply:

    And they have never, not even last night on star TV, expressed any concern for the murder of their servant Hemraj. In fact they have been avoiding mentioning anything about him. Herein, perhaps, lies the answer to the puzzle. Were the two killed by different persons?

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  • http://- Rajeev

    The kind of urgency that CBI is showing in closing this case is very disturbing. According to me CBI knows the killers and is trying to shield them. As CBI works for congress exclusively, it is possible that some congressmen may be involved in this.
    CBI will not waste its time shielding common man, it is expert in saving CON MEN (congress men).

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  • Rajiv

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    Pak Punjab Governor, ex-husband of Indian journalist Tavlin Singh , shot dead
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    He was under attack by the Pak Islamic parties

    Salman Taseer had been under attack from the religious right for his support of repeal of Blasphemy laws in Pakistan.

    He had been declared an apostate and was aware of the threat to his life, as many believe and openly threatened that the punishment for apostasy in Islam is death.

    In a recent interview, when asked about the fatwas issued against him, he had said:

    People also issued fatwas against Benazir Bhutto and Zulfikar Ali Bhutto. They issued fatwas against basant. These are a bunch of self-appointed maulvis who no one takes seriously. The thing I find disturbing is that if you examine the cases of the hundreds tried under this law, you have to ask how many of them are well-to-do? How many businessmen? Why is it that only the poor and defenceless are targeted? How come over 50% of them are Christians when they form less than 2% of the country’s population. This points clearly to the fact that the law is misused to target minorities.

    His twitter feed, as Foreign Policy, pointed out, did not always win him friends, but some of his recent tweets also reiterated his firm conviction to fight the blasphemy laws:

    Now Maulana Fazal ur Rahman wants me out because of my views! Phir hamee qatl ho ayen yaaro chalo

    I was under huge pressure sure 2 cow down b4 rightest pressure on blasphemy.Refused. Even if Im the last man standing

    Mera azm itna bulund hae Parae sholon se dar nahin. Mujhe dar hae tu atish e gul se hae Ye kahin chaman ko jala na dein

    ( The son of Tavlin, Salman now lives in India and is a writer Aatish Taseer )

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  • Vijay Kumar

    @ Rajiv,

    Salman Taseer may not have been the most honourable man in when alive– his ditching Tavleen mercilessly and disowing his own son and other fuedal acts, sanctified by Pakstan’s culture come out in Aatish’s book.

    But in deathe he deserves respect, for the cause he was killed.

    As we can see all bastions of resistance in Pakistan against the Talibani and Wahabbi mentality are crumbling and being killed. We should be careful that we should not lower ourt guard so that these evil scum dont attack us and our freedoms….

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    Azhar Hussain Reply:

    For once i agree with you Vijay, silent majority has to get up in Pakistan to face these fanatics. I myself not a fan of these politicians but murder is murder.

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    vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thank you Azhar,

    I hope the silent majority in Pakistan does get up NOW, before it is too late. Unfortunately that will take a lot of demolishing of Pakistani icons and assets. First you have to do away with Hafeez Saeed, LeT, Jaish, tame the ISI and mend blasphemy laws.

    Otherwise the scared silent majority always follows the guy who holds the biggest gun…

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  • Vijay Kumar

    Sorry Vinodji. I am digressing. But my anger at Rahul trivilaising the LeT threat and the COngress tir4vilaising the loot in 3G is making me do this ! :)

    Here is a story which we all ned to remember.

    WHY WE NEED TO VOTE OUT THE CONGRESS IN THE NEXT ELECTIONS??

    One day a florist went to a barber for a haircut. After the cut, he asked about his bill, and the barber replied, ‘I cannot accept money from you, I’m doing community service this week.’ The florist was pleased and left the shop. When the barber went to open his shop the next morning, there was a ‘thank you’ card and a dozen roses waiting for him at his door.

    Later, a cop comes in for a haircut, and when he tries to pay his bill, the barber again replied, ‘I cannot accept money from you , I’m doing community service this week.’ The cop was happy and left the shop. The next morning when the barber went to open up, there was a ‘thank you’ card and a dozen donuts waiting for him at his door.

    Then a Member of Parliament came in for a haircut, and when he went to pay his bill, the barber again replied, ‘I can not accept money from you. I’m doing community service this week.’ The Member of Parliament was very happy and left the shop. The next morning, when the barber went to open up, there were a dozen other Members of Parliament lined up waiting for a free haircut.

    And that, my friends, illustrates the fundamental difference between the citizens of our country and the politicians who run it.

    BOTH POLITICIANS AND DIAPERS
    NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN
    AND
    FOR THE SAME REASON!

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @ Vijay

    Your sense of humour is matchless. Keep it up conveying the message this way.
    BNA

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay
    I suggest people who joke about politicians must come forward and take up public service. There indeed is a lot of corruption in the world of politics. But I know MPs who have struggled to make ends meet on retirement or on being defeated in the polls.
    So let us not generalise. Politicians come to us every five years for renewal of mandate. Business honchos don’t nor do civil servants or judges — many among whom are as corrupt.

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    vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Vinod Sharma,

    I too had high hopes from Indian politicians. The subject of your last blog– Atal was one. And at one point, when I was in college, Rajiv Gandhi.

    Unfortunately, the India shining of today is a historical accident, because the world bank and IMF imposed certain conditions in 91, and the common people of India grabbed the opportunity which followed.

    I am sure there are still, many good ones. But now I will give you a gist of agenda of various parties and request that you should have your next blog on what people should expect from our leaders.

    a) Congress: Gr8 to be in power, But despite being a democracy, we will salute a fuedal family and allow corruption in our ministers, MLA’s and MP’s as long as it does not make news. :)

    b) BJP : We are clueless. Less corrupt as we maybe we are not in power in Delhi. :)

    c) BSP: UP is to be looted. Mayawati and Kanshi Ram’s statues should be visible from Mars :D

    d) Laloo: I will get, kidnappers and killers… he he heh… they are the best booth capturers :D .

    e) DMK : Divide Tamil Nadu assets in my family and Telecom commissions over all my wives, children, grandchildren :D :D :D

    Vindoji… I can continue… but I fall down laughing, thinking of the jokers who steal and go scot free as some media men also have put thier head into the kadahai of ghee !!! :D

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar
    If you aren’t in touch with Jayaprakash Narayan of Andhra, then pl do. Rather then being a free-lance commentator, get engaged with some movement against corruption. Also, how did you reach the determination that the BJP is less corrupt? Humour brooks no bias my dear.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Vinod Sharma,

    Sir I am willing to join any party which you form to fight corruption :)

    As for the BJP, i am not their spokesman. Just a a watcher from the janata. And currently theri Chief Ministers in Gujurat, MP, Chattisgarh seem clean and their coalition government in Bihar too seems cleaner.

    And yes, the media went after them like wolves in Tehelka when it was just a case of Tehelka magazine needing publicity for a launch. It was NOT a bribe, and maybe Bangaru took it as an election donation.

    Further the amount was Rs 1,00,000 and not Rs 1,76,00, 00,00,000/- .

    The zeroes will tell you the difference between the Congress and BJP !! :)

    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar
    Selective amnesia is not a good trait. The BJP also has regimes in Karnataka, Uttarakhand and Jharkhand. There have been massive mines and land scams in the former two and the third govt is in partnership with Shibu Soren :) )

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Vinod Sharma

    No amnesia here, sir!. I would love to see the mining lease of the Reddy brothers canceled. At least 50% royalty from ore should go to the very district the mining takes place in.

    Why doesn’t the centre do something as Andhra is under their control as so is the mining ministry? Kuch daal mein kaala hai kya…. ?

    You can also investigate how licences for land use change are given to builders in Congress ruled Harayana. To be fair, Hooda is only carrying on Chautala and Bhajan Lal’s tradition. And Mayawati ruled UP of course takes the cake….

    Well we have to catch all of that…

    Now do you understand why I was making fun of our politicians???

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Vinod Sharma.

    And as for Shibu Soren… well he does seem the Sushmita Sen of Indian politics. That is part of a love triangle– sometimes with the Congress, sometimes with the BJP .. :)

    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @Vinod Sharma ji

    Business honchos do not care who comes to power. As they know how to corrupt not only the politicians but also the media people( with few exceptions) to lobby for them in the corridors of power. That is truth and hope you will agree.
    BNA

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar
    You have focussed on mining mafia and said the Centre and the Andhra govts must sort them out. But Bellary brothers are ministers in the administration of Yeddy. Why are u silent about that? Also, you haven’t said a word about the bellary linkages in central BJP or Sibu Soren or Uttarakhand. Would like to be enlightened by u on these issues as well.
    Before signing off, I repose again my greater faith in public representatives — rather than the private sector, the judges and the bureaucracy. Corruption and misgovernance cannot be fought selectively. The broom has to have a wider sweep. Right?

    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay kUmar
    Sorry, missed ur second comment on Soren. Well, you dismiss the issue rather flippantly. It isn’t a love triangle dear. It is about the lust for power— be it Karnataka (where corruption is condoned and casteism promoted), Jharkhand (where political morality is abandoned and a corrupt man embraced) or Bihar (where humilitation is suffered for a share in power).
    One can fool some people some time. But one cannot fool all the people all the time. :) )

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Vinod Sharma.

    Well the Reddy brothers may be Ministers in Yeddy’s government but they also mine in Andhra where the Congress rules. So there is a COngress link also. Anyway the BJP should drop the Reddy brothers, or at least change the mining conditions so that royalty from ore is calculated accurately and as per latest prices.

    And as for Shibu, both COngress and BJP are equally guilty. And equally in love. Though the COngress more as it used him for saving itself in PV Rao’s rule.

    HOWEVER !!!!

    3 G is still the mother of all loot and the COngress needs to get all the money back….

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    But why does not the Media tell us some more about these good politicians , Or there is hardly any space left after the 15pt headlines on schedules of Rahul Quattrochi Gandhi or his photographs or those of Sonia Quattrochi gandhi.

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    Ankit Reply:

    Haha. Vinod Sharma is going all gaga over embracing of a corrupt man Soren but had nothing to say when his own party had him as a minister. Oh, and how concerned he is about the “humiliation” of BJP in Bihar, mere aankhon mein to tears aa gaye!

  • Rajiv

    ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
    When Jinnah and Iqbal, got together to defend the brutal execution of a Hindu on blasphemy charges in 1929
    ————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

    I never knew this event in history. Jinnah was a communal , killer thug but this incident proves why.
    No wonder the Pakistan state is as its today.

    In 1929, a Hindu book publisher in Lahore, was accused of blasphemy by some people.
    Lots of people gahered to murder him.
    So lots were drawn about who was going to kill the Hindu publisher. Ghazi Lim deen , a helper to a carpenter won the lottery and publicly killed the Hindu publisher.
    Allama Iqbal and , Mohammad Ali Jinnah got together for the killer Ghazi and defended him in court.
    The british courts punished ghazi.
    Just imagine, if Allama Iqbal and Jinnah, the founders of Pakistan were such lowly criminals, what would happen of that entity ?

    below is an excerpt from outlook by Pak writer Omar Aliabout the incident

    http://blogs.outlookindia.com/default.aspx?ddm=10&pid=2410

    Thus, in Lahore in 1929, a carpenters apprentice named Ghazi Ilm Deen Shaheed executed the Hindu publisher of a book Muslims considered blasphemous. And Ghazi Ilm Deen Shaheed was not a lone wolf. Such action was being openly demanded by Muslim leaders like Maulana Zafar Ali Khan and thousands of protesters. Ilm Deen’s best friend wanted to do the act and only stepped aside because they drew lots and Ilm Deen won thrice in a row.

    He was then defended in court by none other than Quaid E Azam Mohammed Ali Jinnah, who was asked to take up the case by our illustrious modernist, Allama Mohammed Iqbal. His funeral drew thousands and was attended with pride by Allama Iqbal, who supposedly said that “this carpenter has left us, educated people, far behind”. His grave is now a popular shrine and a Punjabi movie has been made about his exploit, complete with a dance sequence featuring the blasphemer enjoying himself before he meets his fate.

    This is Pakistan.
    Indians are such fools to think that this criminal entity can be ever engaged.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    There was a movement by Arya Samaj to bring back converted muslims to Hindu fold by Swami Shradhanand. He was able to convert thousands back to hindu fold but was murdered by a fanatic muslim. His murder was hailed by muslims and also congress.

    Jinnah was first terrorist of this sub-continent in 20th century.

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  • Praveen Saxena

    Vijay
    As u have considerable interest in India /Pak/Afghan issues, u will find the new post in Pramit Pal Chaudhri ’s blog which appears alongside very interesting. Even some of us at that time had wondered would it not have been better if India had an direct military presence in Afganistan.

    What do u say?

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  • Vijay Kumar

    @ Praveen Saxena,

    Thank u Praveen. It was indeed an informative blog. However I strongly disagree with sending Indian military to Afghanistan.

    I think we should be smart and let the US fight this war.Fighting the Pakistani Taliban in Afghanistan may make us more prone to terrorism in India. The US could end up using our soldiers as canon fodder, leading to high casualities. Let Pakistan and US fight it out, out there. This is one war which wont end easily as the US will never forget that 9/11 was launched from Afghan soil.

    In the end there is an ironical twist. Charlie Wilson was the modern day US cowboy, their folkhero. He created the bunch of fanatical morons called the Taliban through a brainwashing agenda.

    And today the US is fighting the brainwashed maniacs, Charlie created….

    India should use RAW to build up assets. As it is the top Afghan leadership like Hamid Karzai, Abdullah Abdullah etc have strong India links, having studied here.

    Some friends of mine who are in Kabul on UN missions say that goodwill for India remains unmatched. Let us expand our soft power and attempt to get in a NCERT type school syllabus so that secularism grows in Afghanistan. And NOT dirty our hands in violence….

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Vijay think again.
    Try to think about a scenerio where we have credible Indian military presence on the Afghan-Pak border and thus sort of encircling Pakistan from both sides. That by itself shall give a big boost to our defence efforts and , psychologically work to the detriment of forces hostile to India. Building up assets is fine and our agencies would certainly be working , but those attempts by themselves do not yield good results. Also Afghans will have stronger confidence in India and sections hostile to Pakistan will feel more confident of taking a stronger pro – India line. Now the way things are , sooner or later when the US leaves and the task of crushing Al Qaeda / Taliban remains unfinished and Pakistan again gains a upper hand , then where shall we be.
    Instead of looking at this issue through the prism of Indian troops getting involved in the war of a third country ( Afganistan) , or being allies of US, if we think that our troops are there in our interest, then it gives a different perspective. Moreso when the morale of out Jawans is so high and they would happy to take on those hostile to India in that area.

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    vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Praveen

    I have tried to sum up my feelings in my posting which is below and you can read by scrolling down. Seems we we wee parallely working on the same topic! :)

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    vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Vinod Sharma,

    Kapil Sibal is a lawyer who can twist facts and put them forward in the most “swaliow – my-goli- easily way.”

    Vinodji, you know as well as I do that a huge amount of money has been made in 2g. Now okay for a moment I will concede that it is not Rs 17,60,00,00,00,000/- but it surely is at least Rs 100,00,00,00,000,/- . That is 10,000 crores.

    You have to just hear the tapes and know what I mean. Unless of course you pretend otherwise.

    a) There was a settlement of about 600 crores in the Karunanidhi family so that A Raja gets the telecom prtfolio instead of Maran. My God!! Mera Bharat Mahaan!! A family fights over which portfolio of the Indian governement, one of them will get. The other one demands 600 crores !!

    Wah !! Wah !! Are you really saying that this 600 crores was just given out of boredom or in a child’s game of monoply?? :) :) My dear Vinodji, let me tell you that the guy who gives 600 crores takes back at least 6000 crores :)

    b) 122 licences were given. And let me tell you my figure is not wrong. At least some licences went for 50 crores each. I am not going to disclose my source but one of the so called honchos has been a longtime squash buddy of mine…. Multiply 50 X 122, you get 6,100 crores… :)

    Now 6100 crores had been given as bribe. And the actual losses to the Indian public is surely 70000 crores.

    It may be nice to scoff it away, saying that let us not do anything abut it. After all looting is an od habit with Indian politicians…

    But sir, the COngress will see the results of this callous denials in 2014…. just 1000 days from now !

    V.K.CHAWLA Reply:

    Moreover the funniest thing was that Raza , the notorious Telecom minister , you must know VINOD SHARMA , just , yes , just forty five minutes were given , to deposit the fee of 2G licenses . How funny is to hear that a license fee is deposited by the licensees when a notice is sent by the deptt. of the Govt , by post giving them a reasonable time for depositing a fee for a license . Were the lackeys of the License seekers were in the toeline of RAZA all the time or the miracle was done by the govt.’s babu telephoning all license holders , to deposit the license fee , in just 45 minutes . Further how in a jiffy Demand Draft are prepared by banks for crores of money , taken to Telecom Ministry , filled up the requiste forms or challan forms without which no Govt.’s fees can be deposited in the Govt.’s treasury & My God , all this in full 45 minutes . A miracle , at least in INDIA. News reaches telecom licencee for depositing the fee & fees is deposited in Govt.’ treasury ; all in just 45 minutes . Thats why it is said , All Issssss vell . It could be that banks have given service of ‘Door step Bank service ” in Telecom Ministry .

  • Rajiv

    The purpose of this blog is to comment on Indo-Pak matters. It looks like Mr Vindo Sharma has nothing more to say about how to deal with our congenitally criminal neighhbour.

    Regarding the issue of sending Indian security personnel in Afganistan, I would say NEVER.
    Once you send trrops to a foreign country, your troops become hostage to the host country and local politics. To protect the troops we would be spending billions and would be compelled to assist the host government. Any such involvement in local politics of any nation will win more enemies.

    India should not send personnel but assist economically and with arms , those parties that are relatively democratic, relatively secular and relatively non-crminal. That way we have economic leverage which can be changed at a moments notice depending on the actions of the host country and its government.

    Independent polls by various international aid agencies show that in Afganistan India is the most popular and admired country and Pakistan the most hated by Afghans.

    Lets keep it that way by never sending any security personnel there but only using economic muscle and doing good work for the Afghan people.

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  • http://- Rajeev

    Why do I feel that Vinod Sharma is concentrating more on defending Congress Corruption than his pet topic pakistan?

    Is he doing it voluntarily or is being forced to do so? There is COI (conflict of interest) in Mr.Sharma’s case. He is member of govt. appoint Minority commission and also a journalist. I am pretty sure it is hard to be neutral for him when he is favored one by party in power.

    Mr.Sharma, you must quit writing or quit govt. apppointed minority commission.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Rajeev, Rajiv and Shenoy
    There is no conflict of interest as I draw no monetary benefits from the government in my role as a member of the NCM. It is with me an article of faith that the majority is the best protection and advocacy of the minority. You use the argument repeatedly to put me on the defensive. But you wouldn’t succeed.
    If I were to start supporting the BJP today, you will simply forget about what you call a contradiction. For that contradiction isn’t visible to you in the likes of Dr Chandan Mitra, Swapan Dasgupta and Ashok Malik— to name a few very honourable journalist colleagues. In the past, many BJP sympathisers among scribes have set up meetings between BJP leaders and the BSP’s Mayawati and TMC’s Mamata Banerjee. Another fellow played a key role in getting GNLF support for Jaswant Singh.
    I do no such thing. But I am convinced that BJP’s ideology is pernicious and not good for India.That is why I oppose it and come across as supporting the Congress — which perception is at times true but not always true.

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    Ankit Reply:

    Swapan Dascupta accepts on national TV that he is “sympathetic to the BJP”. Chandan Mitra is a member of the BJP and its MP. They do not try to hoodwink the public using a smokescreen unlike you do.

    If you say openly that you are batting for the Congress, at least people will have the respect that the man is being honest and will listen to your viewpoint without squirming. When you do the Congress propaganda on TV these days, you sound like a snake oil seller.

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    V.K.CHAWLA Reply:

    TOO GOOD TO READ , TOO GOOD TO KNOW ABOUT VINOD SHARMA . A SNAKE OIL SELLER .
    No , such people are digging their grave . A journalist should not be biased towards anything or against any thing . Instead he should judge the things in its totallity , event in its happening , news disected in its truthness . But if a journalist is biased against BJP , he is bound to oppose , castigate the solemn event of flag hoisting at Kashmir , as is clear from his another blog . Instead he should have supported & participated on this occassion by participating at LAL CHOWK , SRINAGAR on 26th Jan.’11 but because of his shortsightedness he is compelled to announce his churlishness to the world to win some brownie points from Congress , UPAII or from some fellow travellers of pseudo secular space

    Rajeev Reply:

    Mr.Sharma,
    Being a typical know-all Indian, you don’t know what CoI is? Evenif you don’t get any monetary benefit but you still serve the govt. you are suppose to keep tab on. It is question of morality.

    As far as Swapan Dasgupta etc. are concerned, they are honest about their bias unlike you. Infact they are most of the time more critical of BJP than congress.

    Mr.Sharma, I request you to take break, stop attending Congress Dawats, cleanse yourself and your soul. I am sorry to say this but you come out as spokesperson of Congress “un-intentionally” (I think).
    Regards

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  • Rajiv

    I dont quarel much with Mr Vinod Sharma. I accept that he belomgs to Congress party. However, he still has to explain his comments and rational. He is entitled to his own opinion not to his own facts.

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    V.K.CHAWLA Reply:

    You are wrong when you say that he is entitled to his own opinion . Instead a journalist should be accountable to the Society , common man , residents of the country to which he belongs by keeping a leash on the Govt., of the day . But then he will not be earning a FAT salary packet as well as ocassionly few sacks of money from supporting the ruling party shamelessly in every fora of media , seminars , television , print media & then when he claims he had fought emergency ,censorship , Indira Gandhi , V.C.shukla et all

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    Dear Shri Vinod Sharma,

    you are basically an editor and recently you have also become a member of the National Minority Commission. Many posters here have questioned your dichotomous roles. While nobody need have any apprehension about whether you can and will perform your onerous responsibilities well on the NCM (I for one do not have any doubt that you will perform honourably), many have doubts about your role as an editor at the same time. It redounds to your credit that you have made no secret of your political leanings.

    But, when it comes to the media, you are on a weak wicket, batting for a system that has serious rot in it, recently exposed by the Radiia tapes. Also, on the related issue of corruption, I am particularly amused by your protestations about the UPA being less than or just about equally corrupt as the BJP. While I commend you on your valiant attempt to convince your readers that Yeddyurappa is equal to Raja, because both are corrupt, it looks like you do not see the difference in the leagues to which either of them belong. You are making the same mistake you do in treating Al Qaeda/Let and abhinav Bharat as equals.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    Have you read the report of the SC appointed committee asking for exemplary penalties against the Reddy brothers. If not, please do. The day you will agree that Yeddy does not deserve to be CM, that day we shall be on the same side of the divide.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Oh ho Kapil Sibbal is the new hero . The gentleman who represented most of these telcom companies. Then his sons did so till Subrahmanyam Swami threatened that he will sue him for conflict of interest , and compelled them to return the briefs. The gentleman who told the Muslim voters in Chandni Chowk his political constituency, that if he wins he shall bring Narendra Modi tied in chains before them.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Praveen Saxena
    You must tell the truth as it exists.I do not speak for Kapil Sibal.But I know that his sons gave up the briefs the day their father took up charge as Telecom Minister. The credit does not belong to Swamy.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    @ Mr Vinod Sharma Sirjee

    It would have repetetive for me to have quoted the TOI story which Shenoy Saab has already referred to in post below.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    @Mr Vinod Sharma

    Then in that case the PM ought to have checked the position before offering the Telecom Ministry to Sibal . Or if the PM was negligent , Mr Kapil Sibal ought to have declined accepting the charge.Or is it another instance of the PM being a silent conspirator.

    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Praveen Saxena
    I am sorry to say that you don’t even read my response before reacting. And more often than not, you only repeat what you hear others saying and find convenient from your standpoint. Kapil Sibal is the best among all lawyer politicians. He does not need your certificate or that of Swamy.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    @Mr Vinod Sharma

    Oh come on Sharmaji. Did I say a word about the capabilities of Sibal as a lawyer. I was only referring about the propriety of handing charge of Telecom Ministry to a person holding legal brief of interested parties. or the willingness of that person to handle that Ministry. As for my quoting “others “, what else can we refer to except press reports .That is why we have so much respect for you being an eminent editor. ( although slightly misguided in your preferences)

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    contd…
    As for a certificate from me , what value can it have when he holds a certificate from u of being the” best among all lawyer politicians”. Most ceratainly certificates of eminent editors matter more than what ordinary people like me think.

    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Praveen Saxena
    I cite one example that must satisfy you. Arun Jaitley of the BJP is now Leader of Opposition in Rajya Sabha who is now in the forefront of his party’s demand for a JPC. But his first introduction is as a first-rate corporate lawyer. But your logic and Swamy’s, that should disqualify him from being on the JPC that will take up cases relating to many corporate entities. But I am certain that Jaitley wouldn’t allow his past briefs to cloud his judgement.
    Lawyers are professional people who don’t get converted — with few dishonourable exceptions — to the cause of their clients. And Sibal and Jaitley do not fall in the category of exceptions.

    vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Vinod Sharma,

    The Bellary brothers had mining leases long before Yeddy came inot the picture. Their interests date back when the humbug farmers, Congress and SM KRishana connived with them to loot ore from India.

    Any comments Vinodji ?

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar
    ON whose side were the Bellary brothers when Sonia Gandhi contested against Sushma Swaraj from Bellary? Now please don’t twist facts and answer straight.

  • vijay Kumar

    @ Rajiv and Praveen Saxena,

    let me relate a true story which happened to me in Malataya, in Turkey, very near the Iraq border, in 2005.

    On a lazy afternoon, I was surprised to see two Sikh youngsters in a resturaunt– very rare in a country, with very little Indian presence,

    ” Praha’ji… tussi athe ki kar rahe ho?” I asked, as I sipped Kaanji– a popular drink in Turkey.

    ” Paaji… assi American army vich soldier haige… service par aaye haige…” One of them replied.

    Apparently the US army had a base in Turkey from where they entered Iraq. And many youngsters from all over the world had been recruited by US army to do the dirty job– with a lure of citizenship in the end.

    ” Is’nt the easiest of jobs,” I commented.

    “Not at all.” One of them spurted. “We are part of the tank crew… the Americans usually sit inside the tanks. And we are the guys who stand out, looking around….” He said with a sarcastic laugh. “But if I am lucky… I will survive for an year… and get a green card….”

    I took a deep breath, thought for a moment that God had been kind enough to me, that I did not have to be the mascot for target practice…. :)

    Praveen, that is what I meant by canon fodder. Fighting alongside the Americans and doing their dirty job would well make our soldiers vulnerable to attacks in a war which Americans and Pakistanis created for their own selfish purpose. Let us stand on the sidelines. Maybe even equip the pro Indian forces. But mostly earn goodwill throught humntarian work.

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  • vijay Kumar

    @ Vinod Sharma,

    While it may be Gr8 to make fun of the Pioneer, we have to remember that it was the Pioneer which has exploded some of the biggest stroes of the last deacde. And it was not eh HT !

    a) Exposing Mani Aiyar’s role as a nincompoop sports Minister who delayed everything so that CWG planning and execution became a mess.

    b) Uncovered the 2 G scam and the loot by a Raja who did not care for the Indian Praja…

    Vinodji, I hope you pass on the message to others in HT so that we start getting to know startling facts of the UPA as the Pioneer reveals :D :D

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar
    You must distribute that paper in the entire neighbourhood. I’d be happy as that will help my friend Dr Mitra.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar
    No comments from you yet on the latest headlines on the 2G scam— from Kapil Sibal’s press conference. Surprising really.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vinodji,

    Vijay Kumar is busy, but, as a retired man, I have plenty of time for comments. So, here we go:

    Earlier, Sibal got a promotion,
    of which, he had no premonition.
    He now says the telecom loss is only a presumption,
    and while the BJP questions his assumption
    And, which way went the consumption
    of the loot, the congress calls it gumption.
    But, the people call it (Sibal’s) extreme unction.
    Raja made his billions because of temptation,
    And no amount of radiiation
    can now deny him his redemption.

    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    Men like you don’t tire
    Neither do they retire
    They keep logging miles
    In the manner of a retreaded tire
    But when I read your prose
    I aspire
    That you’d some day
    Shed the old layer of habit
    To start counting the BJP’s debit
    And if that happens
    It would be like a hat
    producing a rabbit

    vinod sharma Reply:

    Correction in above
    In the manner of a retreaded tyre

    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @ Vinod Sharma ji
    Sir

    I understand that Mr. Subramaniam Swamy has requested the the apex court to take a suo moto notice of his remarks and start contempt proceedings as well as restrain Mr. Sibal for making further such statements. These statements are likely to influence the CBI’s investigations in the scam. So the ball is in the Supreme court and Mr. Swamy is going to nail Mr. Sibal as vigorously as he is succeeding with his his case against Mr. Raja. As long as such activists are there, there could be hardly any relief for the UPA govt.
    BNA

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vinodji,

    You have lauded the action taken by Kapil Sibal’s sons (of returning the briefs). As a seasoned journalist, don’t you think it would have enhanced his own reputation “as the best among all lawyer politicians”, if he had returned his own brief to the prime minister saying ’sorry, I cannot take this brief, there is going to be conflict of interst if I take it’.

    As for your earlier poser about Sibal’s “presumptions” of no loss to the government, I can only say that the best lawyer’s faculty as a lawyer and his ‘politics’ must have deserted him at the crucial moment when he made that silliest, falsest, most insincere statement.

    By presuming, again, (like Kapil Sibal) that Jaitely, despite being a corporate lawyer, would push himself to be on the JPC, you have only given voice to the fears of the ruling party.

    As for “lawyers getting converted”, you may remember that the CBI went to a particular lawyer to plead its case against Quattrocchi, who had earlier been the lawyer for Q himself. Besides, Justice Ahmadi and Fali Nariman are two of the worst cases of even topmost “officers of the court” getting “converted”(Bhopal gas tragedy).

    Yeddyurappa had asked his family members to return the land allotted to them wrongly/ out-of-turn, and the pieces land are already back with the BDA. So, it matters little to him how far the judge will be influenced by Gadkari’s “clean chit” to him.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @B V Shenoy
    I can only pity those who rubbish Fali Nariman and praise Gadkari and Yeddy.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Shenoy Saab
    In addition to what u have already written , the people of Karnataka have not bought what the political opponents of Yeddiruppa are trying to peddle. Also I am quite sure u do not need any one to pity u.

  • B.V.SHENOY

    Vinodji,

    Here is a heart-breaking story (TOI) that has been kept under wraps by the media:

    NEW DELHI: Janata Dal president Subramanian Swamy has asked PM Manmohan Singh for telecom minister Kapil Sibal’s dismissal by January 1, failing which, he has threatened to move the courts. When TOI made attempts to reach Sibal, the call went unanswered .

    Making his plea on grounds of serious conflict of interest, Swamy has enclosed with his letter, three Supreme Court cases as evidence that Sibal “as legal counsel has represented Reliance and terrorist and proclaimed offender Dawood Ibrahim” .

    “It is a strict convention in jurisprudence that if an advocate represent a client, then he should not sit in judgment over a case in another matter of the same client . Reliance is an interested party in the 2G Spectrum scam, where there is an ongoing CBI investigation, a criminal complaint pending , and a demand to cancel the licences awarded to Reliance Communications and its front companies. Dawood Ibrahim’s interest are involved in 2G Spectrum matter because of the Home Ministry objections to Shahid Balwas of Dynamix Balwas (DB) which company is now a part of Etisalat DB,” Swamy writes.

    Swamy says that Sibal’s “two sons as advocates are representing telecom companies which have received the ill-gotten 2G spectrum licences” . “By the SC judgment in Subramanian Swamy vs Election Commission regarding Mr T N Seshan, even a relative’s connection calls for a person sitting in judgment recusing himself from the case. Hence Mr Sibal must recuse himself from the MCIT otherwise there will be another scandal on your lap. Despite my highest regards for your integrity and knowing the situation you are in, I shall have to move the courts if you do not take a decision in this matter by January 1st 2011,” Swamy writes.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    Sibal is capable of defending himself. Swamy may have taken on a tough adversary this time. Whom Sibal has defended in the past as a Lawyer is of no consequence. There is a provision in the law for even the legal officers of the government such as AGs and SGs to appear in part-heard cases while holding public office.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    Didi Gadkari’s statement that Yeddy’s acts might have been “immoral but not illegal” not influence the judge the Karnataka CM has hadpicked to probe land allocations at the expense of the Lokayukta.

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  • Praveen Saxena

    Now u confuse me Sir. we are eager to know who is the better of the two lawyer politicians ? Sibal or Jaitley. Or as u have already said that Sibal is the best of all the lawyer politicians.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Praveen Saxena
    I called Jaitley a first rate corporate lawyer. Why does that confuse you after I called Sibal the best among laywer politicians.

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    nirav Reply:

    “Lawyers are professional people who don’t get converted — with few dishonourable exceptions — to the cause of their clients”
    ————————— Mr Vinod Sharma
    not even 10 days into 2011 and we have the joke of the year from Mr Sharma.:)

    Your articles used to be biased and corrupt like your lords the congress…but now they are stupid and absurd as well.
    :) :) :)

    but surely this was funny…..try standup comedy as in most of the tv debates you are standing and smiling without any understanding of the subject and for anything said you jump to karnatak and yedurappa…..no wonder your name is vinod:) you make us laugh at your innocent foolishness…….or intelligent corruption,,,,,,

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @nirav
    I can only laugh at your post —- but that will annoy u as you don’t like me laughing.

  • vijay Kumar

    Dear Vinodji,

    While you so ably defend Kapil Sibal, Madam Sonia is naraaz with him!! I am seeing this on IBN 7!! So what say you??????????????

    And you have still not answered my post on possible amounts transacted by Shri A Raja.

    Sir, I hope you are not so innocent and bhola and have started believing that A Raja is a saint who has renounced the world and gave all these licences for free for the good of India !!!

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar
    U too aren’t all that innocent — given the way you deploy ur brand of humour to conceal bias. The dispute is over the amount of loss, not per se the criminal culpability that even Sibal said is under investigation. Now if Sonia is unhappy with Sibal, is it my funeral?

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Vinodji,

    I am just a common man, expasperated by the corruption in high places. And I find it strange that raising BJP corruption to hide the massive loot now should happen.

    Anyway the amounts and degree too are different. Gabbar Singh cannot equal the small chori of Jai and Veeru.

    i.e UPA corruption now = Gabbar Singh

    BJP corruption in Tehelka = Jai and Veeru !!

    Sir, here lies the difference, which you are not seeing but the ordinary public sees ! :D

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  • vijay Kumar

    Sir,

    In keeping with the title of the blog, I propose a new line….

    As per the Congress

    ~~~~~~~:) :) ~~~ NO ONE TOOK TELECOM KICKBACKS ! ~~~:) :) ~~~~~~~~~

    And as per its spin Doctors

    ~~~~~~ :D :D ~~~ EVERYONE IN IS KICKBACK TAKER, SO WHY BLAME CONGRESS ~~~ :D :D ~~~

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  • Rajiv

    The Congress defense I hear is that
    “PM,Sonia, Sibal , Raja, Congress etc are allegedly only as corrupt as allegedly Karnataka CM Yedurappa or BJP. So do not complain”

    Am I getting it right ?

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  • Rajiv

    There is anathor news item about confession and prosecution of some right wing extremists , who happen to be Hindu and RSS workers, regarding bomb explosions at some Muslim places of worship.

    Investigation should be transparent and those involved should be prosecuted fully. If some of those involved happen to be Hindus they need to be punished. The moral authority of the Indian state in its fight against numerous acts of Pak state sponsored terrorism against India , will only be strengthened by it.

    Terrorists can come from anywhere. Its what the state does about them that seperates criminal entities like Pakistan , that train, arm and fund them from the rest.

    The fear is, the Congress party will try to use these few acts of violence for political gains and seek to defame the BJP , reduce it to a Hindu/Muslim affair and thus politicize the entire issue. It would be a goldmine for thugs like Rahul Gandhi and Digvijay Singh’s vote bank politics. It will be great tragedy as that will only weaken India’s fight against state sponsored terrorism of Islamic Republic of Pakistan and weaken India’s fight against it.

    For its part, BJP leadership, should stay away and press for a transparent investigation.

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  • vijay kumar

    After the release of “ No one killed Jessica” I request Manish Tewari, Kapil Sibal and Manu Singhvi to produce two more films

    ~~~ :D :D ~~ NO ONE TAKES COMMISSIONS~~ :D :D ~~~

    &

    ~~~ :D :D ~~ EVERYONE TAKES COMMISSIONS… HAMAM MEIN HAM BHI HAI… WHO BHI HAI…~~ :D :D ~~~

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  • Praveen Saxena

    Very strange that the this PM and the best Lawyer Politician in the country discovered the massive loss ( some mind boggling figure, I never paid attention to) caused by the NDA govt ’s tecom policy after being in power for more than 7 years.Throughout the UPA1 and now UPA2 , they did not know about it. All these years the CAG audits did not discover it. But the moment the best Lawyer Politician assumes office after holding briefs of many of the interested parties, he makes this discovery.

    Vary starnge indeed.

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  • http://drgvrao.webs.com dr g v rao

    I don’t agree that everyone killed Aarushi. I have all the expertise at command to say that only the DNA experts from Hyderabad killed the evidence leading to the killers of Aarushi. DNA experts failed Aarushi and misled the CBI that inappropriate advice and lack of ability from so-called DNA experts of the Centre for DNA Fingerprinting and Diagnostics or CDFD, Hyderabad has led CBI to get placed in such difficult state of affairs in the Aarushi Case. The foremost point of consideration is that the so-called experts were not experienced enough in Forensic DNA testing, but are qualified in Microbiology and Silk Worm Genetics and they do not possess any Forensic Science qualifications. Simply they are aware that mixtures of DNA contamination need to be handled by experienced experts and not by any tom, dick or harry. The CBI was grossly misled by the CDFD to believe that “TOUCH DNA TEST” would not be useful in coming to a conclusion. How did the CDFD realise that the samples in the Aarushi case were contaminated without actually testing the crime scene samples? It only goes to show that DNA experts just issued statements like politicians and walked away with it. Therefore CDFD to hide its incompetence misled CBI to believe that TOUCH DNA TEST would not yield results. The CDFD failed to update its knowledge and infrastructure in DNA Testing which could have helped to generate evidence in the Aarushi Case.

    Media reports regarding DNA tests done at Hyderabad reads “The CBI claim comes even as preliminary reports from Hyderabad’s Centre for DNA Fingerprinting and Diagnostics, according to sources, suggested that identifying whose blood was on the T-shirt “may or may not be possible.Doubts stem from the opinion of experts that separating DNA fingerprints from garment after so many days is not always possible, because red blood cells on the cloth start disintegrating”. (Read more at :The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/CBI-still-has-no-real-proof-in-Aarushi-case/articleshow/3251910.cms#ixzz1Ac9uNYBl)

    Nothing can be more unintelligent than this. The whole world knows and even a Middle school child knows today DNA can be isolated from extinct Dinosaur fossils which are more than 50 million year old. And our ‘EXPERTS’ say that 2 month old stain does not yield intact DNA.

    In this regard, I request that some intelligent person within the CBI to peruse the case files pertaining to Magunta Subbarami Reddy murder case of Ongole wherein I, as a DNA expert had given a conclusive report by similar testing in 1990’s, despite the samples being contaminated by other human samples. The strong evidence was upheld by the Supreme Court as well and the accused were sentenced for life.

    What CBI did not realise was that different levels of experience and training plays a part in effective mixture interpretation and it is very Scientist specific and frankly CDFD does not have it. Untalented and inexperienced Scientists of India have failed Aarushi. May her soul rest in peace.

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  • http://- Rajeev

    Guys,
    There is no point convincing Mr.Sharma that Congress alone is responsible for all the corruption thus all the problems in India.
    Evenif Congress destroys this country and divides it up and sells it to enemy nation, Mr.Sharma will describe all these actions as great favors by Dynasty and Congress.
    Have you ever seen Mr.Sharma condemning congress on any issue except for election loss? He is all set to become RS member on Congress ticket in next 5-10 years. Let this old man work on his political ambition just like Chandan Mitra.

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  • Manoj Kumar

    As per the initial confession Rajesh Talwar made on 23rd May, it admitted killing Aarushi and Hemraj. He later withdrew the confession because it was done in the absence of lawyers and such confessions dont count. His daughter discovers his affair with Dr Durrani via Hemraj and makes 680 phone calls within 3 days prior to the murder. Aarushi also tells her grandparents about it. Later that night Rajesh slaps Aarushi and she hits her head on the wall and falls dead. This was when Nupur was already asleep. Talwar later finished Hemraj in the terrace with a hammer, not a golf stick. He also slit his throat to make sure he was dead.One question has mystified everyone. Can a dad slit his daughters throat. Most people will say no. Even i will say no. This case becomes easier to solve only if u find out Nupur had no idea what happened. All the elaborate scheme like sliting the throat was just to prove his wife Nupur, he didn’t do it. Aarushi was already dead and Rajesh was desparate enough to prove to his wife he couldn’t have done it. But he had to convince his wife that Hemraj did rape her and he killed him in rage. How does he prove Hemraj did rape her. The super dilated vagina, artificial vaginal discharge, the cleanup, the underwear in terrace just to prove all this really happened but he forgot to plant evidence a typical rape victim has.The bruise marks. Dinesh Talwar would also be willing to help if he is convinced Hemraj did rape Aarushi. Remember u can only solve this case “ONLY IF” Nupur sleeps through the whole incident. Otherwise there are too many conflicting things.Rajesh Talwar is the smartest man on earth. All he had to do was prove to his wife that he didn’t do it. No need to prove the media, police or CBI. He knew Nupur would prove it to the world that “THEY” didn’t do it because “THEY” didn’t do it. But just to prove it to his wife this man would do something no man has ever done before. Quite a shame. And all this time everyone was blaming the parents. Of course it was never the “PARENTS”, if u know what i mean.

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  • http://nadunudi.wordpress.com Narayana

    Manoj Kumar,

    You can join UP police. Your story telling skills are welcome only at UP police types.

    Rest of the world, story telling is done after collecting evidence. Story does not become evidence as UP police want us to believe.

    Only after guilt is established after evidence an attempt will be made to tell a story on what could be the motive for the murder. The motive is useful only while deciding on the quantum of punishment and not deciding the guilt. If the murder is premeditated punishment is severe whereas if murder is due to sudden circumstances, the punishment is less severe.

    Problem with Indian Police is that they have stopped understanding the law and doing their own version of policegiri with no accountability and now have succeeded in supplanting story telling instead of investigation and idiots like you have started believing story telling to precede investigation!!!

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  • P.Ranjan

    I think this case is totally confused by this couple and CBI , Media and UP Police from the initial.
    One of the reason they are high profile professional smart and clever.

    Who is saying right , every one is getting confused.some has hidden the evidence so every one is getting confused by all.

    1) either there parents has done this and removed all the main evidence. and confused all.
    2) But one question why any parents will this with her one children.
    3) again Q comes out of 4 2 is killed and only 2 are there in home , then who has done this , no one has entered inside the home whole night from outside.
    4) if parents has done then there might be some background why ?
    5) either some affair of her daughter to servant. As both of them has been killed.
    6) or her father has some affair with some1 , might be her daughter knowing.
    7) Then another question comes who tried to hide all the evidence and why ? while Drink bottles still not removed as spots evidence. Either they missed.
    8) So many things happened on the same day
    i) Key was not with her mother , it was outside.
    ii) Router was closed in mid-night ?
    iii) there parents were sleeping on sound sleep with sound proof room, AC is one of the reason, is CBI Asked question on this ?
    iv) Some1 has came from outside and drink killed both of them , but why both killed on the same day.
    v) Why some1 else will kill his servant and pull it from 1st Floor to terrace.

    But some one has done this and this could be done by very smart killer.
    UP police might played some role and not done proper initiative to get all the evidence.

    CBI allegation might be correct but at the end if there parents is killer then they have to tell the truth and full story, so that the whole country could know the mis-try of the case.

    CBI Proved and now they have to accept, if not then for every allegation there parents have to come up and cross cut with the CBI.

    This is very complicated and confused case. I don’t know it would be solve or not.

    I hope , it should be.

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  • RAHUL

    so can we be sure that Hemraj was having some kind of affair with a minor?
    Didnt he desreve promal punishment if that is the case?
    The girl must have been spared though, cause she is a minor and didnt know the right and wrong!

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  • Rohit

    It indeed is a mystery as to who must’ve killed the poor child ( a minor) and Hemraj. Like some of the comments above and after reading the entire sheet submitted by the CBI. It is clear that there was no outside interference. This can be easily deduced after having the watchman or the nightguard of the Society or the building being interrogated. It has been said that no one left the building or entered during that time. This cannot be further debated, meaning if there is doubt on the watchman or his ability to keep guard at night surely the CBI would’ve grilled him thoroughly to see if he is either lying or simply wasn’t doing his duty. But all the CBI says that it is inconclusive. What does the CBI want? a clear video recording in High Definition and Dolby digital sound to show the entrance of the house or the apartment during the time 12:00 am to 6:00 am??? Even if we did assume that someone tried some very elaborate methods to enter the house, like climbing the terrace or hiding and entering the building to escape the watchman or guard and then enter the house. Well for that to be assumed there needs to be some motive that’s very powerful. Some motive like stealing money or revenge etc. None of these seemed to appear. Now if all of the above statements are true, one surely does not need a CBI statement to state that this is either the work of someone residing well within the building or someone within the house!

    Yes people expect more from the CBI, cause they are the best at it and this is their job. How they do it is not our concern. In their entire career have they not come across situations in which evidence has been altered or tampered? Doesn’t any job teach you to have backups? or how to combat situations at your workplace when everything has gone down and you still have to find a way to find solutions. If you turn on your TV and watch medical detectives on Discovery or other authentic channels you’d see the use of modern equipment and instruments to crack a case. I really hope that the case is cracked sooner than later. And it is important so that no one thinks they are above the law in getting away with murder whatever the reason or provocation was!

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  • Anonymous

    A word about Azadi from History, I would share here. After the invasion of J&K by Pakistani Regulars & tribal’s in 1947, after the massacre of Hindus in Muzzafarabad on 22/10/1947 & killing its DC named Doni Chand Mehta in front of his wife, one KP Pandit Tarachand Wagam was taken as prisoner & later was so-called appointed as new ‘wazir wazarat’ of muzzafarabad (deputy commissioner). Radio Pakistan was broadcasting (propaganda only) repeatedly ‘kashmiri pandit ko wazir wazarat banaya gaya hai, ek aur kashmiri ko judge’. This judge was a Shia Muslim Ashiq Hussain neighbor of Abbas Ansari (former Hurriyat Chairman) & Moulvi Iftaikhar Hussain Ansari at present with PDP. With active connivance of Pakistanis & goons of Muslim conference (who was from baramullah) Tara Chand was converted to Muslim with new name given to him was Mohammad Tariq. After some days he developed fever. Medicines were not available, all the while Tara Chand was muttering the words of his family members, and 15 days later he passed away. He was buried near a mosque in muzzafarabad. His daughter and son Srikrishan came back to valley with Red Cross, this was their azadi. KP,s have tasted their so-called azadi in 1947 itself. Today no Hindu lives in POK that they had cleansed it in 1947 itself.

    1990 being water-shed in politics of Kashmir as it was continuation where Pakis tan left it in 1947, there were first targeted killing of Kashmiri Pandits, KP,s were not & are not aligned to separatism based on religion as none of their political aspirations were not going to be fulfilled by this violence & from day one. They are vindicated on this, the valley based KP Sangharsh Samiti i.e those who did not leave Kashmir (leave alone Migrants for a second) have came out with a report stating that from May-1990 to July 1990, a killing of a Kashmiri Hindu each day took place in valley & Jag-Mohan was not then the Governor, so it speaks volumes about the whole situation.

    The violence in Kashmir was not in any way in their physical & political interests so were forced to migrate. And now this 7.5 lakh KP’ they have a political demand as original residents of Valley like, after all separatists cannot spread the canard that they are politically correct with violence with gun & KP,s are politically incorrect with non-violence, that is political bankruptcy in reality.

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  • Anonymous

    About 1990 the late Mr P.N. Haksar (1913-1998) came to speak at the University of Delhi and was introduced, if introduction was needed, by the late Professor V.P. Dutt (1925-2011). In his remarks Professor Dutt noted the anguish of the Kashmiri Pandits who had started pouring out of Kashmir in the preceding year in the wake of terrorist violence that made short work of the famed Kashmiriat, which to us in India was the same as the secular attitude. The problem of the displacement of Kashmiri Pandits had started becoming noticeable.
    As the write up says, the attitude of Kashmiri Pandits was much the same as that of the displaced persons from Pakistan in the wake of the Partition. I remember my late father (1883-1978) telling me in late 1947 that we, displaced from Rawalpindi, would be back in Rawalpindi in a few months. After Gandhi’s assassination, my father stopped talking of going back. We stayed on in India, with hardly a helping hand from Nehru’s government. The refugee camps in which we lived were closed within a year. I am not surprised that the present government is not doing much for the Kashmiri Pandits.
    The world was concerned about the Jewish diaspora and decided to give them a homeland of their own: for the first time in history, a new State had been created by gift. Whenever ethnic cleansing happens anywhere in the world now, the world press waxes eloquent, especially if the victims are whites, as in the case of the Jews and the Europeans. But the equally white Kashmiri Pandits do not seem to make the grade and receive very little attention from the world press and from world bodies like the UN. Not much attention is paid to several African countries where events resemble ethnic cleansing.
    It is a moot question whether the Kashmiri terrorists, whom you still prefer to describe as militants, were concerned about Kashmiriat, a characteristic of the state of J&K, which must have had something to do with the psyche and attitude of Nehru, himself a Pandit of Kashmiri extraction. The terrorists have gone on to distinguish themselves by killing even Kashmiri Muslims who were not in agreement with the ideas and objectives that the terrorists were attempting to ram down the throats of Kashmiris. In the upshot, Kashmiriat has been the first casualty of terrorism in Kashmir.
    Perhaps we do not need to argue at great length to make the point that terrorism in Kashmir is for the most part Pakistan’s export and that Pakistan, itself far from being a secular place, could hardly be expected to care about Kashmiriat. To be sure, Kashmiriat ran counter to the ideas and inspiration that went into the making of Pakistan in the first place. If Pakistan’s leaders and terrorist masterminds had no use for Kashmiriat, it was hardly surprising. It is even possible to contend that abolishing Kashmiriat was one of the primary objectives of those who sent terrorists across the IB and LOC from Pakistan and POK. Pakistan’s leaders of all hues have been known to have been fanatics, with the possible and sole exception of M.A. Jinnah (1876-1948) who did not have much time to leave a lasting impact, though.
    Whatever the political colour of governments at the centre or in J&K, their first concern is to appeal to the Muslims of Kashmir, who, as you say, may not care overmuch for the kind of dispensation that they may have to live under if they were part of Pakistan. If these governments have to appeal to the Muslims of Kashmir, then Kashmiri Pandits naturally cannot be objects of the attention of these governments. Then, who should be concerned about ‘ethnic cleansing’ in Kashmir that you speak of? In any case, such ethnic cleansing is the handiwork of terrorists, who are still being distinguished from the State and the Government of Pakistan, in my view erroneously.
    In this scenario, there is little hope or possibility that Kashmiri Pandits shall receive much attention from the Indian central government or the state government of J&K, or from the world press.
    V. C. Bhutani, Delhi, India, 21 Jan 2012, 1200 IST

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  • Anonymous

    hindu army is already fighting to save kashmir, hindu aka bharathiya

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  • Anonymous

    lame excuse to defend jihadi militants

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  • Anonymous

    make inquiry with panoon kahsmir you will find who always fought and helped kashmiri pandits, it has been rss and bjp, each year my family has been sending money which we are capable of for helping poor Hindu victims of jihadi militants

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  • Kumars1

    Self styled Harbir aka fanatic mullah, mind your own business. Sort out Zardari, Gilani, Kayani etc. Leave the brothers Hindus and Sikhs alone. We do not take kindly to your meddling. We are brothers, any differences are between a family, we will sort them out ourselves. Don’t stir, we are not fools. There are no anti Sikh comments. Our faiths are born from the soil of India, not Arabia.

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