Abki baari Atal Bihari for Bharat Ratna



The BJP’s demand for a Bharat Ratna for Atal Bihari Vajpayee is loaded with political meaning — come as it does at a time the principal Opposition is seeking Dr Manmohan Singh’s resignation over the 2G spectrum scam.

But my point is different. What has Atalji done to be conferred the highest civilian honour? Former BJP chief Rajnath Singh wants him nominated for his value-based politics and contribution to parliamentary democracy. Rajiv Pratap Rudy says he established a tradition of liberal politics.

Among the award’s many recipients, there are some who deserved it richly and some whom many did not consider worthy of the honour. If he gets it, Atalji will be a genuine Bharat Ratna.

Comparisons are odious. So one would desist comparing him with such stalwarts of the freedom movement as Pandit Nehru, B R Ambedkar, Sardar Patel, Maulana Azad, S Radhakrishnan, B C Roy or Jayaprakash Narayan. He qualifies for the top award as the tallest living politician who earned a name in history as the country’s longest serving non-Congress Prime Minister.

I feel BJP leaders pitching for Atalji could have better prepared the rough draft of his Ratna citation. His best hour in politics wasn’t when he won an election. It came when he lost it badly. But in the process, he preserved the secular character of the vote and the campaign— coming out strongly against the 1984 anti-Sikh riots triggered by Indira Gandhi’s assassination.

The Congress for its part had left the community to its fate. In those tragic times, Atalji encouraged them to come out and vote in a hugely polarized atmosphere that left his party with just two seats in the Lok Sabha.

In fact, Rajiv Gandhi seemed to be taking a leaf out of the BJP’s veteran’s experience when — after an electoral drubbing in Punjab at the height of the Khalistan movement— he said the Congress lost the polls but won Punjab back for India!

Govindacharya had once called Atalji a mukhota— meaning thereby that he was just a pretender. But his inclusive approach made the BJP relevant in coalition politics after the sorry 1996 experience that had him demitting office in thirteen days for want of numbers in the House.

His attempts later to normalize relations with Pakistan despite repeated betrayals earned him the reputation of a peacemaker, a statesman whose fame transcended international borders.

Only a leader of his stature could have dared to visit Lahore’s Minar-e-Pakistan, a memorial to the Pakistan movement that divided the subcontinent. Besides being an act of statesmanship, it was an act of courage by an inheritor of RSS’s Akhand Bharat philosophy.

His elevation to the Pantheon of Bharat Ratnas will make the award inclusive, temporizing at once the politics of distrust that makes political rivals fight out as enemies. The Congress shouldn’t think about it twice as it was Nehru who had spotted Atalji young in Parliament.

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  • nirav

    Why did you not question that for Nehru and Rajiv?
    Nehru is the cause for the kashmir trouble…His big mouth on plebiscite at the UN against Sardar patels advice is why we are trapped in this…
    His not recongnizing TIbet as a nation and his stupid approach with china is why we are now soft and lost a lot of land..

    Rajiv gandhi—Well maybe for Bofors he may be qualified….
    Infact it took 40 years after his death that Sardar patel was awarded the bharat ratna while Rajiv was given the same year he died.
    I didnt hear you talking about why patel wasnt awarded till then?

    There goes hypocrisy and double standards.Actually congress loyalty:)

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    Col KMS Sahasi Reply:

    I agree with Rajiv. Nehru got India, Rajiv Gandhi resurrected Punjab from sectarian Bhindrawala and reunited with India, Indira played a master stroke in getting Bangla dish for Bangladeshis who were persecuted by their Punjabi Muslims in Pakistan. See how fast Bangla dish is progressing as compared to Pakistan.
    Sardar Patel was adamant on his formula. Yes he did work hard to unite small kingdoms and integrated into India, but he was ready to give Kashmir to Pakistan, but for Nehru.
    Atal jee did nothing, he pleased all his NDA partners, kept quite when LK Advani went on Ruth yatra. He kept mum when kar sevaks on the abetment of LK Advani, Uma Bharat, Kalyan Singh got Babri Masjid demolished. What was the difference between Babar of 15 th century and BJP of 1992. He was weaker than all including Gowda, Chandra Shekhar et al.

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    Peshori Ahuja Reply:

    Atal ji has proved to be the best head of the Govt.
    Heading a large number of parties of different views, he consilidated them and got their respect.
    It is Atal J who set an example and helped the birth of UPA .
    He faught Kargil war with all the honesty without crossing tjhe border with Pakistan.
    It was a greatest tribute to Atal Ji when Musharaff, the arch enemy in Kargil war came, to india and by beaking all the proto went to vist Ajal Ji.
    He deserved the highest honour.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Bhindranwale was a creation of Rajiv Gandh’s mother who never hesitated in playing divisive poltics for her own interests .Also we are reading for the first time that Sardar Patel was willing to give Kashmir

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    Rahul Reply:

    Very true. It is a given fact that political writers with their souls hanging to dry at 24 Akbar Road have pitched for Nehru and Rajiv Gandhi for their own benefit.

    Nehru did not deserve to be the PM even for a single day. Sardar Patel as PM would have made India realize her potential much sooner.

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    Ziauddin Shafi Reply:

    Atalji committed a grave mistake in his tenure due to which BJP won Gujarat but lost India – he should have removed N Modi as CM in 2002. It was also a great opportunity of going one-up on congress’s Achilles heel – 1984 Delhi riots – had Atalji had gone ahead and taken a firm stand against Gujarat 2002 riots, the BJP would have had a landslide victory in 2004, 2009 & 2014…. So, no Bharat Ratna to him for misleading the BJP, who would now find it very difficult to grab power by the ballot as they are chasing the bullet since 2004.

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    vijay kumar Reply:

    @ ZIa,

    Some of the earlier reciepients of Bharat Ratna too did see communal and corruption situations occuring in their time.

    a) During Rajiv Gandhi’s time riots hapened in 1984 and corruption scams galore

    b) In indira’s time in Meerut, Bhagalpur and corruption scams galore

    c) MGR was solely given the Bharat Ratna to woo the Tamil population and Jayalalita by Rajiv Gandhi

    In Atal’s time, riots did occur in Gujarat. But to hold him personally culpable would be wrong. We also have to emember that riots occur when pent up anger suddenly bursts out. In Gujarat it was the Godhra thing. I think all communities should distance themselves from militants who claim to be fighting on their behalf and breaking laws doing so.

    Currently Digvijay SIngh and Antulay have gone on the offensive of insulting the intelligence of all Indians. When the terrorists from LeT are so obvious, these two evil geniuses are using the situation to drive a wedge between Hindus and Muslims. When they inaugrate book reading sessions– like swapan Doshi Digviajay did yesterday in Mumbai– that 26/11 is a RSS conspiracy, Muslims go into a doubt. While some HIndus start feeling that Muslims will never bat for India.

    I think we need to use the Congress SYMBOL OF THE HAND TO DELIVER A THAPAD ON ITS FACE NOW, for this reason…:):D

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Ziauddin Bhai , while u grieve for the Muslims who died , shed a tear for the Hindus too who were burnt and died in the Sabarmati Express as well as the Riots which followed. In fact deaths of all those who died an should be condoled. Please don’t get carried away by the propoganda of the fake secularists Pl check with the Muslims of Gujarat.

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    Ziauddin Shafi Reply:

    I grieve for every single Indian brother / sister who perish needlessly due to the most silliest of reasons, namely communal riots. If we do not respect sanctity of life, rather look at the community to which he/she belonged before grieving for it, that promotes more apathy and disregard for human lives.

    Saarthak Reply:

    Excellent reply by Zia.

  • Rajiv

    For those who blame Nehru for Kashmir follies, should remember its because of primarily Nehru that Kashmir National conference of Sheikh Abdullah and majority Kashmiri Muslims at that time opted for India.
    Nehru was absolutely secular and it was those qualities that endeared him to Sheikh Abdullah of Kashmir National conference. Sheikh Abdullah and Nehru were close personal friends and if the national conference leader had to choose between Jinnah and Nehru, he did not have to think twice.

    Nehru, himself a Kashmiri, wanted Kashmi to be in India and so cultivated close political and personal links with all leaders of different political parties in Kashmir. Sardar Patel and others who had no personal linkages to Kashmir were inclined to give Kashmir away.

    So to the extent, that without Nehru’s personal motivations to see Kashmir remain part of India, sure it may no longer be a issue for India or part of it.

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    Sunil Reply:

    Is that right, he is also the same man that did a deal with muslims to partition India so he could be PM. Remember that muslim who called himself Gandhi asked Nerhu to step down and allow Jinnah to be PM. BUT he did not.

    Sardar Patel did not want to give anything away. So Nerhu had Kashmiri linage and kept that part of India BUT was happy to give away the rest. Makes sense.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    @Rajiv

    I also request u to recall Nehru’s broadcast to the Nation on 2 November 1947

    ” We are prepared when peace and law and order have been
    established to have a referendum held under international auspices like the United Nations. We want it to be a fair and just reference to the people, and we shall accept their verdict”

    This is what Pakistan still insists on today. Are u in favour of that offer which Nehru made?

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    V.K.CHAWLA Reply:

    You are wrong on your perception that Sheikh Abdullah was responsible in alligning the Kashmir with India . Only signatory could be the King or RAJA of the state or province who has to sign of letter of instrument of accession with India or Pak , as per agreement reached with English . So where comes the public perception or Sheikh Abdullah’s wishes or being secular .

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    Dear Shri Vinod Sharma,

    The BJP and its leaders have done a signal disservice to Vajapayee by lobbying for an award, which, even if given, may mean nothing to him. The congress party has a history of honouring mostly wrong and undeserving or least deserving persons. The BJP should have left the issue to the people, whose voice too matters. A few names who were really not Bharat Ratna material come to my mind: M.G.Ramachandran, C. Subramaniam, Rajiv Gandhi.

    If we look at the contemporary political scene, one can recognise Atalji as being in a different class altogether. In fact, there is no other person in politics today who measures upto the level of Vajapayee. A Mani Shankar Aiyer, a Govindacharya or a Subramanya Swamy may speak ill of him or talk flippantly, a Sonia Gandhi might have said, “Vajapayeeji ka dimagi halat theek nahin hai”. But the common people of the whole subcontinent, have nothing but respect for him. Today, most Kashmiris remember him as a genuine person who would have solved the problem troubling nearly two billion people for the last 60 years. Even in war, he was a leader who brought honuor to the country.

    Therefore, if the congress government honours him with the highest national honour, it would only honour itself. As for Vajapayeeji, he has made a warm place for himself in the hearts of over a billion people.

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    Nitin Dixit Reply:

    Very well said Mr. Shenoy….He is the only veteran leader in the present whom young people like me consider to be the most adorable, genuine and a true mentor for the future to come….Salute to this great leader of the Indian democracy !!!!

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    Saugat Reply:

    Bharat Ratna has become a tool to please and honour the ruling party’s leaders or it allies. The Great Shubahs Chandra Bose was awarded in 1992, and MGR was awarded in 1988. Can any one tell what was MGR’s contribution to the country and how was it superior to that of Netaji Subhas Bose?

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  • Rajiv

    Mr Vinod Sharma makes his point very well on Bharat Ratna for ABV , without taking potshots at BJP.
    That’s laudable.

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  • http://- Rajeev

    I think Bharat Ratna award got tainted the day genocidal Indira Gandhi and then maniac Rajiv Gandhi got it. This award is for the corrupts and anti-national.
    The BJP leaders have lost their mind. Do they want to put Vajpayee in the league of corrupt Rajiv Gandhi or corript dictator Indira Gandhi.

    Lastly this award will be given by servant of Sonia i.e. Pratibha Patil. The whole nation is being shamed by such people.

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  • http://- Rajeev

    Under corrupt, anti-national, terror supporter Congress, Bharat Ratna has become Bharat Lootna award.

    Most of the journalist who support congress support congress’s political, psychological, material terrorism. It looks like Congress has two great allies, one is anti-national corrupt media and other are ISI-LeT-IM-Huji gang.

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    Prem Reply:

    I fully agree with you.

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    SHAKTI Reply:

    Amen to Rajeev!

    You are right about the mainstream Indian media. Even the Pakistani media is better. They take all Govts. to task, no matter who is in power. But the Indian media has worked round the clock to ensure that the significance of all ISI backed terrorisms (there has been over 1,000 attacks and bomb blasts in India) is minimized. So, the Indian public continues to pay a big price in BLOOD to ensure peace between India & Pakistan…no matter what…even if up to 200 Indians die in a single attack. This media has managed to influence the Indian mind-set to tolerate all terrorism. Hence, the 2009 electoral victory of the Congress. If Congress wins than ISI & LeT win!!!! Go India!!

    Here is something funny about PM Manmohan Singh:

    Pakistani authorities call to PM Singh: “Since you have always accused us of terrorism for decades and that we are not accepting responsibility………..tomorrow we are going to announce that we carried out the 26/11 Mumbai attacks……what are you going to do….attack us….?”

    PM Singh: “No…no..please do not accept responsibility…..if you do….then…you will be putting me in a terrible situation……we’ll have to attack you…but we cannot because….because……because….we are basically co-wa-rds…!! Do you know that Mr. Osama Bin Laden came to Delhi and wanted to get arrested….but I told him to please go back…..because I was too scared to arrest him…”

    Later Pakistan announces that it was responsible for carrying out the 26/11 Mumbai attacks!

    Then PM Singh addresses the nation on Doordarshan: “My fellow Indians….Pakistan is just playing a nasty game….we are still investigating who carried out the attacks…the terrorists did come from Pakistan but we still do not know who carried out the attacks. Please be assured that in the next 10 years we will find out who did it….until we find out….we are going to hold RSS & BJP responsible for the attacks.”

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  • Ravi

    All awards are historically surrounded by controversy; even Nobel is not exempt from this generalisation.

    I have never agreed with ABV and his parties polices.

    Bharat Ratan, is surely above party politics.

    I have no doubt in my mind that ABV is a worthy candidate and should be awarded this honour.

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    HisMastersServent Reply:

    Just like Obama got the Nobel peace prize for promoting peace on earth, Rahul Gandhi should be given Bharat Ratna in advance for promoting peace and harmony in India and also for being the future Prime Minister. He is the greatest leader that India will see, that will take India to needs for 22 century. He is the born genius. His DNA has greatness written all over it. He is a living god.

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  • nirav

    Rahul is the best candidate now…

    For finding out that internal terror is a bigger threat then LET…

    For nehru…..

    People are so brainwashed that they dont even know the history…
    Nehru said in parliament that since northeast and parts of ladakh are barren lets give it to china,,,

    But for desai and others we would have lost even that.Abduallah annexed Kashmir as they were scared of the pak supported looters and invaders.not because of nehru

    .And sardar patel…

    Some people are not even qualified to comment on him ..he is too big ….He integrated more than 400 kingdoms….he opposed pakistan formation ..its nehru and jinnah who wanted to split the booty as they thought …..and become prime ministers…Infact at one point jinnah agreed to leave his demand if he was made the PM however Nehru wouldnt agree and allowed pak formation so he could become the PM.
    Not even one congress committee nominated him for PM.He was a selected PM by Gandhi in 1947 .And in 2010 Manmohan singh is selected PM….
    Great progress….

    .

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  • Aman

    He was the last leader we had,who reached the top not by chance .He deserved the post and it showed.A natural speaker,they don’t make men like him anymore.

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  • Vish…

    I want Bharat Ratna for my puppy…he is the most amazin puppy ever ;)

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    HisMastersServent Reply:

    Get a Ghandhi as your pet. I am sure he will get one sooner or later. All the Gandhi’s starting form Nehru to Rajiv got its ! its in their DNA, their DNA sequence reads BHA-RAT-RAT-NAA

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  • ANIL

    Has not Bharat Ratna lost its charm, dignity and meaning? By “conferring” that to A. Bajpayee would not that be in appropriate to a certain extent?

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  • Prem

    Give these useless honours to the Sonia Gandhi’s kids.

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  • veera

    Stop with all these dramas No one deserves anything in India

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  • Prashant Saxena

    How can Atal Bihari trying to corner the Sikh vote after the 1984 riots not qualify as an act of desperate political opportunism, and entitlte him to a Bharat Ratna?
    Another example of weird logic?
    How about giving a Bharat Ratna to Mayawati because she saved dalits for India? Or for some weirdo gujjar leader that is trying to save gujjars for India?

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    Anil Kumar Reply:

    the day that bofors thief butcher of sikh architect of shah bano and ram temple unlocking got bharat ratan this award lost any meaning..

    so who cares wo gets or who doesn’t

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Prashant Saxena,

    Your three and a half questions are weirdly illogical.

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    Prashant Saxena Reply:

    Maybe I was not clear enough. ABV was only indulging in blatant opportunism in 1984 when he was trying to get a portion of the Sikh vote when the community was disaffected with the congress. Calling such an act “Saving Punjab for India” is naive at best.
    Is Mayawati any different when she exploits Dalits, or is she saving Dalits for India?
    Are Gujjar leaders, when they play the communal card, asking for reservations, exploiting Gujjars to get into power or are they saving Gujjars for India?

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  • Praveen Saxena

    While fully agreeing with the suggestion to award the Bharat Ratna to Atalji, I would also submit that the hard work and the supporting role played by L K Advani was also an important factor for Atalji’s success

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  • vijay kumar

    @ Vinod Sharma

    A well written, thoughtful piece. In my eyes you have atoned for your blunder of calling Atalji before a parliamentary commitee on 2G.

    Thought there is little chance of this happening, to fans of Atal Bihari Vajpayee, this thought itself is medicine for the soul.

    Atalji is probably the tallest of the non Congress leaders in the past few decades. Having lived my youth in Delhi, I have had a chance to hear the some of our PM’s on the podium. And in my eyes…

    a) Indira was always haughty, a bit of an imperial queen. Her fawning courtiers somewho convinced her that “Indira is India…’ and she would get away by calling all those who opposed her as anti-national and CIA agents. Yes, she did look dignified at times and women, especially, identified with her.

    When she died, a psychiatrist friend told me that a lot of men went into depression as they really believed that they were married to her …!

    b) Rajiv was hesitant and smart intially but got carried away by his spin doctors who said, “he is from Doon school and tum saala Indian jaanta hai Doon ka matlab kya hai ?” Ultimately the COngress used the money it got as kickbacks in Bofors and other defence deals but Arun Nehru along with VP Singh ended up convinceing the Indian public that Rajiv alone had taken it all.

    c) PV Rao was a non doer. But that itself was a quality as he freed the Indians from licence Raj, CIA fixations, left rhetoric. And the free Indians startd growing economically, magically !

    d) IK Gujral and Deve Gowda. IK Gujral needs to be in the thrown in the Dustbin of history for surrendering India’s RAW assets to Pakistan in the name of Jhelum Diplomacy.

    Deve Gowda, corrupt, oily, typical politician must be the only PM in the world who aspires to be the CM after getting the PM’s post. Give him the worst dustbin in history… :)

    e) Atal Bihari, eloquont, visionary yet a common man all the time. I attended one of his rallies at Boat Club. Somehow his meaningful pauses and similies could be called dramabaazi. But they sent the message to his audience. Now looking back I think was remarkable in his skill and personae.

    There are no personal corruption charges against him, though his cabinet collegues would have made thier money. But less then what the COngress is doing now.

    And remember in TEHELKA the entire media went after the NDA, for a paltry sum of rupees one lakh., which was not even a bribe. This just show the triple standards of the media…

    — one standards for the COngress. Another for the BJP. ANd another for themselves!!

    Coming back, I think Atal balanced our foreign policy. Improved our free market efficiency. And got in the highways programes. A well deserving candidate for Bharat Ratna….

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    All members of Nehru family believed and now believe that they were/are born to rule. Being imperial in bearing and imperious in behaviour came naturally to them. Additionally, even though they had Anglo-Saxon looks, still felt the need to be appreciated by the gore log. This is particularly true of Nehru and Rajiv Gandhi. While Nehru was very unfortunate to be ensnared by the Mountbatten couple, who drew several Lakshman Rekhas for him which he didn’t cross (Kashmir was done under their advice), Rajiv Gandhi felt the need to be loved by a gori ladki, even a bar waitress, since she was of white skin. Except Nehru, all had limited intellectual and educational attainments, Sonia Gandhi and her son being the worst in this regard.

    In this history of Indian prime ministers, the Gowdas, Gujrals and Chandrashekhars are mere footnotes, with Deve Gowda’s name inked out, though visible..

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    vijay kumar Reply:

    I may not fully agree with you here, since it is ultimately the Indian Janata votes for who is the best among the worst! :)

    The point is we need to move away from one dynasty as a matter of principal. THe Congress senses that it can only win in case it projects the name “Gandhi” to the people. The non COngress parties should choose a panel of ten or so people who are PM material and then choose the one who is acceptable to all. In case you remember, Madhav Rao Scindia’s name had come up once in the COngress.

    Maybe they should choose a worthy succesor to MMS, who by all accounts will NOT throw his turban into the ring…..

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    You said, “…..since it is ultimately the Indian Janata votes for who is the best among the worst!” The Indian Janata didn’t vote for Deve Gowda’s premiership nor for that matter Gujral’s. As for the congress, do you still have doubt that there is only one “worthy” successor to MMS, who is none other than the yuvaraj?

    vijay kumar Reply:

    @ Shenoy,

    I was praying that the Yuvraj may get a fit of nerves and decide against taking up the PM’s post.

    As it is, his launching “Nightfall’ Digvijay as his trusted right hand can only mean that the future under him could be nightmarish.

    Why does he not take up a target oriented post like a Ministry for training???????

    We Indians dont want an innocent idiot as the PM– a guy who never had to work for a living….

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Yeh sab to theek hai. Parantu the issue which I am trying to comprehend is why is Digvijay Singh persisting with his line. And no contradiction from the Congress Party yet. Is the Digvijay Line going to be the new political strategy of the Congress Party ?
    When the Ayodhya Judgement had come , Mulayam was the quickest in denouncing it even as the Nation’s mood was one of reconcilliation , and the Media had coined a new term ” Muscular Secularism” for that. Are we set to witness a new competition for being “The Most Muscular Secular of All” among the political parties..

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Praveen Saxenaji,

    there is nothing muscular about the pseudo secular rant Digvijay Singh is spewing out. But, he is just asking for trouble by saying that Karkare was like a god to Muslims. You know Muslims hate anyone or anyhing likened to their God, the only Allah. Remember the Swedish cartoons. Now this joker is comparing Karkare to Allah. Either Muslims love Digvijay Singh more than Allah or Allah is kind to Digvijay that the Muslims have not yet woken upto his mischief.

    But, by comparing Karkare to Allah, he has shown himself to be as pig headed as the bakra which goes to the slaughter house with a smile on it slips.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Shenoy Saab
    And the funny part is that whatever these chaps do , their deeds shall still fall within the definition of “Secularism” by the Commentators and the Media. They enjoy a strange indulgence.

    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    I credit you with better language and sense of imagery. Your bakra bit is beneath dignity. Thought must tell you as a friend.

    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vinodji,

    I humbly accept your criticism. I do not as a rule abuse any person, but this pseudo gets my goat (pun intended) every time he utters secular non-sense and denigrates Hindus.

    Satish Haldankar Reply:

    Leaving aside, whether the former Prime Minister deserves the Bharat Ratna or not, the BJP (read Rajnath Singh) has made it almost impossible for that honour to be bestowed by the present dispensation by publicly demanding it. Trust the BJP honchos messing up things on regular basis. The best course of action would have been to quietly put in a word.

  • FROZEN RAIN

    This blog seems to be full of anti congress…

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Frozen minds can’t distinguish between honest criticism and anti-congressism.

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  • http://yahoo.co.in Vikram

    Dear Vinod Ji,

    We would like to recommend a “Congress……………oops Bharat Ratna” for your goodself.

    Thanks

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vikram
    I don’t consider your comment funny. It is because of such interventions that serious debates and discussions become meaningless. If you have nothing to say, keep your counsel. Don’t show yourself as flippant.

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    Vikram Reply:

    @Vinod,
    Yes, such interventions having no meaning for a person like you.
    But my comment is as meaningful as your blog is………………we can’t take a congress man more seriously.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vikram
    Then why are you wasting time here….just scoot.

  • ats

    ABV is entitled to BR, yet Advani will try his best not to let that happen. There is no one more deserving then AB if that does not happen courstey Advani, then BR should go to sachin tendulkar or Asha Bhonsle Both have entertained and lightened us so much all these years. Ever since rajiv gandhi was awarded BR sitar mastero ravi shankar pandit blackmailed to get one – BR has losts its relavance anyway.

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    Dear Shri Vinod Sharma,

    you have, for once, written a piece which is objective, appreciative and free from bias. However, I do know it for a fact that this congress government is so far removed from values and objectivity that showing grace and nobility to an opponent, even an opponent as worthy as Atal Bihari Vajapayee, who, in fact, has ceased to be an opponent, is inconceivable.

    My hunch is that this sham government will spring a surprise by honouring the utterly dishonoured (by them) Narasimha Rao, just as they had earlier honoured M.G.Ramachandran. It may soothe the AP people a little and bring them back from the Jagan-Nayudu-BJP camp. Not that I would crib, because, among the congressmen, there has never been a wiser, more sagacious and epoch-making prime minister than Rao. Additionally, all congress PMs have been Bharat Ratna material. so why exclude him from the honourable pantheon?

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    Just to refresh your memory— when the attack on Parlilament happend, Sonia Gandhi was on the phone in no time to find out whether Vajpayee was safe. They have shared a civilised relation and so has Manmohan Singh with ABV—- never missing the opportunity to greet him on his B’day.
    Politicos must oppose each other but not give up on socialilsing as that helps many a time to settle contentious issues. Vajpayee’s legacy belongs to India— not to any political party or ideology.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Sirjee , in private she may have shown that courtesy to Atalji and at that time he was PM , but in her public speeches we only see her addressing the Opposition with disdain ” Yeh log ” and ” Woh log”

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Poor lady, she still has to read what is handed down to her by her “script writers”, without actually understanding what she would be reading. The only two instances, when she was on her own, when there was no written script nor any advisers nearby to prompt “replies”, she had put her foot firmly in her mouth. The first was when she declared, in front of Rashtrapathi Bhawan, in 1999, when she faced the TV cameras, “We have 272″. The second time was when she declared, “Vajapayeeji ki dimagee halat theek nahin hai”.

    But, she is capable of goofing up even when written scritpts are given to her. With a written script, she read “Narendra Modi Maut ka saudagar hain”.

  • Satish Haldankar

    In my opinion, Mr. Atal Bihari Vajapayee does not deserve the Bharat Ratna, solely on account of his inability or reluctance to act against Modi in 2002. Later he too fell in line – recall his infamous speech – ‘aag kis ne lagaayi’ in Goa. As someone has already commented that the BJP won Gujarat, but lost India and even today there has been no course correction – in any case it may be too late for that now.

    Otherwise, he has been a very good parliamentarian and leader.

    Earlier many undeserving people have managed to ‘grab’ the highest honour.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Satish Haldankar,

    You can have faith in your congressi seculars to deny Atalji the Bharat Ratna award. For him it matters little, for us he already is a Vishwa Ratna. Bharat Ratnas are for people like MGR, CS, Digvijay Singh, Deve Gowda, IK Gujral and a host of very deserving pseudos.

    If Gujarat riots is to be the yardstick, do you, in the same breath, demand withdrawal of the Ratna from Rajiv Gandhi, who had caused the massacre of 4000 Sikhs in Delhi alone in 1984?

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    Satish Haldankar Reply:

    It seems that you do not read the comments before responding. You also reach to conclusions that I am some sort of sympathiser/supporter of the Congress (your language clearly indicates it). For you, there is no space for people who keep all parties at arms length. For you, one is for Hindutva brand of politics and if not then one is on the other side – the Congress. Any criticism of the former raises your temperature and brands the messenger as a Congress supporter and being one, one becomes anti-national and unpatriotic. BTW, is it a crime to be a Congress supporter? My dear, your slip is showing. Pity you.

    Didn’t you read my last sentence? It seems no. Only that I did not mention the names of the undeserving. The three I recall that in my opinion did not deserve the highest honour are Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi and M G Ramchandran. Having said, if mistakes (meaning political considerations or sycophancy) were made in the past, it does not mean that we keep repeating them. It would take extra-ordinary measures (i do not know what) to withdraw the honour, as the persons I mention are no more amongst us.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Satish Haldankar,

    “My dear, your slip is showing. Pity you”- What you saw was my banian; I don’t wear slips. I accept your pity just as I accept somebody else’s pat -with grace. But, your comments reek of congressi pseudo-secular anger, disgust and pseudo-pity for the Muslims who died in the riots. And how can you be anti-national, when you hate the BJP, the Hindus and those who speak up for them? You can count yourself amongst the ultra nationalists and pure patriots, deserving an award yourself.

    As for your last sentence, the centre-piece of your “opinion” (Earlier many undeserving people have managed to ‘grab’ the highest honour.) please note that none of those mentioned by me or repeated by you have “grabbed” the awards. They were thrust upon them by your congress government of the day with alacrity and without much prompting.

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    Satish Haldankar Reply:

    This is in response to your reply today, as the reply link there is not working..

    There you go again you anger is clearly visible.

    Congress bashing and painting me again as their supporter.

    I repeat either you do not read or read too much into the comments before responding. When i mention Gujarat 2002, I am fully aware of the fact innocent people (Hindus and Muslims) lost their lives. Why should even one life have been lost? That is where the BJP failed. Your mind-set also shows when you talk of Hindus being killed. and no sympathy for Muslims. When will you talk of Indians and people without any labels?

    Grab or thrust what difference does it make? In my opinion, they did not deserve it. What do you mean by my Congress government? It is my/our Government and not my/our Congress or BJP government, which party is in power is not relevant. You are still not ready to accept that person can be equidistant from all parties – for you either one is with you or on the other side (read Congress, pseudo-secular, blah, blah, blah).

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Satish Haldankar,

    “That is where the BJP failed”-It is actually the kind of secularism you are preaching that has failed, whether in Delhi in 1984 or in Gujarat in 2002.

    ” You are still not ready to accept that a person can be equidistant from all parties – for you either one is with you or on the other side (read Congress, pseudo-secular, blah, blah, blah).” Now, Haldankar, your fig leaf is showing.

    Satish Haldankar Reply:

    BV Shenoy wrote

    Satish Haldankar,

    “That is where the BJP failed”-It is actually the kind of secularism you are preaching that has failed, whether in Delhi in 1984 or in Gujarat in 2002.

    Yes, it fails every now and then, yet it is still the best bet for India. In no way the agenda of divisiveness and hate of the RSS is acceptable and it is not paying them any dividends either. You should try and recall as to why the BJP lost in 2004 and 2009.

    ” You are still not ready to accept that a person can be equidistant from all parties – for you either one is with you or on the other side (read Congress, pseudo-secular, blah, blah, blah).” Now, Haldankar, your fig leaf is showing.

    No my fig leaf is not showing. The read part was from your perspective. That is what you have been saying on this forum through umpteen posts.

    Wishing you a happy and all-inclusive new year, in which you will talk of human beings and not by their labels and not target your hate on that basis, but purely on merits. Good luck.

  • gaurav shrivastava

    mr.atal bihari vajapayee,bharat ratna pane ke bilkul yoge hai unko ye upadhi milni hi chaiye.wo bharat ke bahut acchhe neta tatha prdhaanmantri rah chuke hai unhone apna kaam bakhubi nibhaya.bharat ka ak matra neta jo puri imaandaari se apna pura jivan bharat ki kamyaabi main laga diya dubara is bharat main unse aacha neta koi or nahi ho sakta.main unko sadar namaskar karta hoon.unhone hindi ko bahut bharabha diya.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Gauravji,

    Sadly, Vajapayee has gone much beyond these mundane matters. I am reminded of a Hindi song:

    “हमारे बाद अब महफ़िल में अफ़साने बयाँ होंगे
    बहारें हम को ढूँढेंगी, न जाने हम कहाँ होंगे
    बहारें हम को ढूँढेंगी

    न हम होंगे, न तुम होगे, न दिल होगा, मगर फिर भी /२
    हज़ारों मंज़िलें होंगी, हज़ारों कारवाँ होंगे
    बहारें हम को ढूँढेंगी, न जाने हम कहाँ होंगे
    बहारें हम को ढूँढेंगी….”

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  • pankaj#1

    Hi Every one;
    got stuck in the infamous blizzard at North East States. What is amazing is the discipline of people in the face of this natural calamity. So much contrary to what I see in our nation. I feel amused to see, people adoring Gandhi Family, who have usurped the last name of great son of India for their benefit and like lambs, Indians are falling prey to them. No self confidence, these Jaychands and Mir Zafars are ready to sell themselves and the nation for pecuniary gains. Wish, we Indians should have self confidence and kick these self serving politicians, where it hurts most. Eveery one should wake up and realize their importance in scheme of things. Wish, Indians should recognize their worth. Politicians will continue to exploit unlettered Indians to their advantage and so called literates, will continue to play side kicks to these crooks. When the dawn of awakening will come? I am waiting for that day, but may be I do not have that much time.

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  • (Dr.) B.N.Anand

    Dear Vinod Sharma ji

    A very balanced, objective and a commendable analysis of the demand of BJP leaders for Shri Atal Bihari Vapayee ji be conferred the highest honour of the country. On the other hand, I feel sorry the way the BJP leaders are sort of begging for this honour to the former PM of the country. Surely asking for this honour does not do full justice to the stature of Atal ji. It is very hard for anyone to deny including his adversaries that the long and purposeful political life of Atal ji has indeed left a deep imprint about his contribution to the political life of the country since independence. Indeed, the title of Bharat Ratna itself will be poorer if it has not Atal ji as one of its recipients. Like Mahatma had risen so high in stature that the Noble committee has not been able to excuse itself for having missed a chance to bestow the Noble Peace Prize on a person which, in the words of Einstein, the coming generations will find hard to believe that such a person ever walked on this planet in flesh and blood. Likewise, no govt. in the country will be able to excuse itself for having overlooked or missed to honour Atal ji with the highest civilian award of the land.
    Thanks and regards
    BNA

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  • vijay kumar

    A happy new year in advance to All !!

    For this year I also propose

    a) A Bharat Ratna for Vajpayee this year

    b) A Bharat ratna for the common man in some future year for surviving despite the corrupt and callous in the police, media, bureaucracy and most of al , politics

    c) A BHARAT DUSHMAN award for Antulay, swapan doshi Digvijay, Raja… :D

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    We can name the award, only one of its kind, “Bharat kalank”.

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    vijay kumar Reply:

    Then I’ll write a Salim Javed sort of dialogue… “Iss Raja par kalank ka tika laga hua hai….”

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  • Rajiv

    Wish all a happy new year.

    Looking back, severe years ago, right around this time Pak hijackers hijacked an Indian airlines plane and held passengers hostage demanding release of Pak terrorists from Indian prison.

    One thing to ponder, is how the media , a section of public and the government reacted when Pak state sponsored terrorists hijacked the Indian airlines flight to Kandhar and threatened to kill the passengers ( after having killed one in cold blood and thrown his body on the tarmac ) .

    The media, public and government’s reaction was among the darkest chapter of Indian state.
    Its something if we don’t introspect and examine can be repeated again.

    Just put USA in place of India and you would have seen how differently the
    1. Media
    2. Public ( sections of it motivated by political propoganda of the opposition, Congress in that case ) and
    3. Givernment ( BJP ruled ) reacted.

    Having lived in USA for 20 plus years , my opinion is that in USA
    1. The media would have stood strong with the government and would not have amplified or given airtime to relatives if they demanded the US government meet terrorist demands. They would have been dismissed by teh media and civil socviety as reactions of psychologically traumatized relatives, something that should not influence government policy.
    2. The public and the politics here have an entrenched idea of not succumbing to terrorist demands.
    Unlike in India, the relatives of the hostages would have kept quiet or would have been discreet. Its unthunkable that they would seek to surround whitehouse demanding that government accept demand of the Pak sponsored terrorists.
    3. The government would have been clear about its policy of not accepting hijackers demands. It would have used friendly countries to exert diplomatic pressure and would have loked the other way if some private parties gave money in lieu of freedom. But it would have never released from prison the terrorists as demanded by the hijackers.

    Sure the government would have faced criticism and public outcry if the terorists had killed all US hostages. But the government of USA would have been prepared to accept that outcome.

    The one biggest failing of the BJP government is that it took the easy way out and released the Pak criminals and murderers as demanded by the hijackers. There were previous cases ( like the Nuclear tests and Vajpayees 1st stint for 29 days, where the BJP risked losing the government but stood strong on its policy and was rewarded ).

    I wish the Vajpayee government had risked the outcomjke, managed the public and media better and not given in to hijackers demand. That was one of the darkest days in recent memory.

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    vijay kumar Reply:

    Rajiv,

    I disagree with you.

    the government was headed by Vajpayee who, besides bing the subject of this blog was also very human.

    And on the other side were cruel piggish beasts called the Taliban…

    They killed Rupin Katyal and these cruel animals would have killed each and every occupant of the plane. And then believed that they were all booking themselves a place in jannat.

    I rather marvel at the courage of Jaswant Singh, who took the initiative to negotiate himslef and went all teh way to Kandahar. He could well have been kidnapped himself, given the evil mindset of the jehadis. Can you ever imagine my favourite character called Mani Aiyar or any other individual in the COngress doing so?

    At that point, the ISI was totally backing the hijackers. So we have to treat this as an internaional crime by Pakistan. Where we faield was in higlighting the Pakistani involvement and the fact that a UN member state had conducted a hijacking. Then later let the freed terrorists like Masood Azhar flourish in Pakistan.

    That was our failure…..

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @Vijay

    Yes , Vijay I totally agree with you. But one thing is for sure. The relatives of the hostages became highly emotional on the point that when it comes to common man, the govt. refuses to save the lives of the hostages. But when it is a case of a VIP hostage, the govt. yields immediately. That had happened before in Jand K. Shri Vajpayee understood the pain of the common man and might have then decided to release the dreaded terrorists in exchange for the lives of hostages who were just common men and no VIPs. That aspect can not be ignored. Moreover, as usual, the media and the then opposition party exploited the situation. First they would telecast live the demonstrstions of the relatives and question the govt. for its insensitiveness. But once the hostages were back home, the media started a very strong tirade against the NDA govt. for having yielded to the demands of hijackers. That is a double standard.
    It is a pity that the media came out as the worst villain in the whole hijack event. The media as a whole has now has met its Waterloo as a result of Radia tape leaks. The three most highly rated and decorated journalists ( decorated with Padma shree awards etc.) are now so defensive that one of them has gone on sanyas from his wealy column, the other has been relieved of his job and the third has been so chastened that she does not look the same chirpy and arrogant person. On the whole, the media has lost the credibility and trust of the people.
    If only our media and the people had shown patience, the outcome of this Kandhar episode would have been different. In the end, only the humane response of Atal jee could mitigate the sufferings of the sentimental and emotional relatives of the hostages.
    BNA

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    Dear Vinodji,

    Here is my “wish-list” for you for the year 2011:

    MAY THE YEAR 2011 BRING YOU HEALTH, WEALTH, SUCCESS AND PEACE,
    May you know your onions and heed others’ opinions,
    May there be a grain of truth in every word you write,
    May the New Year be fruitful and all the grapes you eat sweet,
    May you make the BJP sweat and the congress upbeat,
    May your cell be off when the Radiias call and may your antennae be on when scams come knocking,
    May the minorities feel safe with you in the NMC and may the majority trust you,
    May your office never be ‘tainted’, may it always look freshly painted,
    And finally,

    May our ‘muqabla’ in this forum grow,
    May the ‘faasla’ between us de-grow.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    Shenoy Sahib,
    May you keep sounding nice and chripy like today
    May you give others the benefit of doubt
    May your humour grow like scarlet pimpernals
    May your majestic prose leave all of us in thrall
    Me your life be a becon for all
    Cheers for 2011

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    rpting last line
    May your life be a becon for all

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    vijay kumar Reply:

    @ Shenoy and Vinod Sharma…

    I loved the line of “May your cell be off when the Radiias call…. ”

    Vinodji, I hope you are taking necessary action !

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Wah Shenoy Saab Wah

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  • Praveen Saxena

    Sirjee and all friends who visit this Blog

    Wish you all a very Happy and Prosperous 2011 .

    Regards

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Shenoy and Vijay Kumar
    Radia types don’t have my number— they have better people to talk to like Ranjan Bhattacharya :) )

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vinodji,

    with the telecom minister himself in her pocket, getting your number,is ‘baayein haath ka khel’ for Niira Radia. Ranjan ho, yaa alak Niranjan, Niira can charm all, especially senior editors. Therefore, better warned is better armed.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    I am a different kind of Brahmin. My jaatwalas from Karnataka (read Anant Kumar) are more vulnerable to womanly charms and honey traps. Also, I have a friend who’s smashingly handsome (guess who?) at sixty plus and claims to set hearts aflutter, may find his glad eye cast on the buxom Niira :) )

  • http://yahoo.com Vikram

    @Vinod
    At last you accepted it……………..btw meditation is a good remedy to control anger.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vikram
    What did I accept? What are you dreaming now?

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  • Praveen Saxena

    @Mr Vikram

    This blog is hosted by the HT Media Network , wherein they have invited their senior Editors to write their analysis or opinions on subjects of their choice and the Host then invites the readers to

    Speak Your Mind
    Tell us what you’re thinking…
    and oh, if you want a pic to show with your comment, go get a gravatar!

    Now in case this Invitation is fettered with certain ” dos” or don’ts” then it rightfully ought to have been prominently displayed for guidance of all . However I do not see any such guidelines . Which would mean that readers are free to write their opinions as long as they do not contravene any provision of Law.

    In the instant case where your remark

    ‘ Dear Vinod Ji,

    We would like to recommend a “Congress……………oops Bharat Ratna” for your goodself.

    Thanks

    appears to have invited the ire of Mr Vinod Sharma the author of this post, to such an extent that he is asking you to scoot from the Blog appears to be unjust and unfair. It can mean that the invitation to readers to give their opinion is intended to entrap to humiliate those whose opinions are found not to the liking . This situation , in my opinion is arbitrary and unfair to readers. Oftentimes the replies of the authors are bitter or rude to an equal extent. Yes sometimes the posts of the readers appear to question the motivations of of the Author behind the Write -up, which by itself should not be objected to.

    Submitted for consideration of all and Mr Vinod Sharma with all due respect to him.and our gratitude to HT MediaNetwork for hosting this blog.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @Dr Anand and Praveen Saxena,

    After a rather late night, I am back at my office… with a head still a bit groggy! :)

    Anyway on 1.1.11 my 1st observation is that the media has lost lot of credibility. Rajdeep Sardesai in his column in the HT lamented that as per a recent survey the credibility of the media is now only next to that of property dealers!! :D

    Bollywood made a film on property dealers called “khosla ka ghosla.” Now i have two more bright suggestions for Bollywood for award winnning films.

    —— > Barkha ke burke ke peche kya hai…..

    ——-> Prabhu ki agli CHaal kya hai….

    I have a gut feeling that both the movies will be hits! :D

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Praveen Saxena
    There is no difference of opinion on this blog site that I never censor anybody’s comments — even when I am in strong disagreement. You have put to vote a particular remark and my response to it. Nothing wrong in it. But wouldn’t it have not been proper if you had kept the mattter open ended instead of loading it with your our perspective?
    I am quite surprised that you defend Vikram’s freedom to make personal attacks without adding value to the discussion. And when you do that, you question my freedom to withdraw my hospitality to such unprovoked abuse. I’ve nothing to say if that is your sense of fairplay.

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  • Vijay Kumar

    In a significant development the separatists in Kashmir have admitted that Mriwiaz senior and Bilal lone’s father, Abdul Lone, were killed by their own militants. Just proves that the Hurriyat leaders were all the time scared of speaking against Pakistan trained jehadis. in fact blaming India and the Indian Army is thier way of ensuring their own safety.

    All the more reason that

    a) Kashmiris should stay away from Geelani and other ISI agents

    b) Tri-furcation of Jammu, Ladakh and Kashmir is necessary so that the separatists, if they desiore, can keep killing each other, while Jammu and Ladkah can go on a high growth path

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @ Vijay

    Sir
    The very bold disclosure by the Mr. Bhat has exposed the rivalry amongst the Hurriyat leaders . I think in their hearts of hearts , even Mirwaiz and Bilal Lone know that their fathers were victims of inner rivalry among the Hurriyat leaders. That is understandable.
    I also believe that ultimately the reorganisation of Jand K state will form the nucleus of the solution. I believe that Leh and Ladakh should be merged with Himachal Pradesh as there was to be a direct road link from Manali to Leh. I am snot sure about the current position regarding this but ultimately this will surely open up another route for access to Jand K..
    Regards
    BNA

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    Vijay Kumar,

    It certainly looks like we are seeing a lot of “mea culpa”s these days. Earlier, we had the congress accepting that their once great supremo, Sanjay Gandhi did commit grave mistakes during the golden age of emergency. We also had the party obliquely accepting that Indira Gandhi too was not beyond being steamrolled into kowtowing to Sanjay Gandhi’s diktats. We had Clinton telling world leaders that the Americans are bad, they make fun of all, and ‘don’t get upset’.

    we had the Radia tapes, and the media moghals, stars, starlets etc. accepting that they did, infact, tried to play “king makers”. Latest, we had Rahul Gandhi accepting that he in fact is enamoured of Islamic terrorists and he dreads Hindu terror. The latest is the Supreme Court, which has accepted that it did arrange for grave miscarriage of justice during the said emergency.

    I am now anxiously waiting for Sonia Gandhi too to come out and boldly -and humbly too- accept that she has stashed, at the last count (with her fingers, of course), about 10 billion dollars in Swiss Banks and that sadly she has lost the code for opening those accounts.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    You really fluctuate between facts and fiction at an alarming pace.

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vinodji,

    you may accuse me of some degree of exaggeration, but fiction is not what I have dished out here. About Rahul Gandhi, I only meant that he doesn’t consider the LeT a grave danger to India, contrary to his own government’s stand, supported by hard evidence. Therefore, it is really no exaggeration to say that Rahul loves LeT.

    About Sonia Gandhi’s billions stashed away in Swiss Bank accounts, I would request you to read S.Gurumurthy’s article:
    http://expressbuzz.com/opinion/columnists/zero-tolerance-secret-billions/236261.html.

    Now, you may, in all probability, dismiss Gurumurthy as an RSS rabble rouser, but the article is based on incontrovertible proof. When Headlines Today maligns Ananth Kumar accusing him of having Swiss Bank account in partnership with Niira Radia, you readily accepted it at face value, but when the facts are pointing to Sonia Gandhi’s illegal Swiss Bank acounts, you are calling it “fiction”.

    Still, I would repeat my request to you to read the article and form an honest opinion.

    With Regards,

    B.V.SHENOY.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @BV Shenoy
    Pl cite an objective, dispassionate authority. I know about Gurumurthy too well to be misled. As for Rahul, you are way off the mark. Pl read the Hindu of that day to gauge what he told the US envoy and what the latter reported to Washington.

    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    @Vinod Sharma ji
    Sir
    When we are used to reading HT, why we have to look for another newspaper for any accuracy of a particular news item? The interesting part is the advice coming from someone who hosts a blog at HT as a very senior associate of HT.
    Well, you cite very often Anant Kumar just whether Radai tapes had to say any thing in this respect or not, but about the prince and the madam, you always tread a careful path and are wary of touching even the base.
    BNA

  • tariq

    Dear sir,

    Good article and nice articulation. thanks You.

    Best Wishes.

    Tariq,

    P.s – Am perhaps nitpicking but nevertheless must point to an error in your opening para. Ambedkar must have done many good things…but he was not a part of the freedom movement, infact he was firmly with the british.. for his antipathy towards gandhi and congress or any other reasons.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Tariq
    Partly true. But he played a major role in giving us our Constitution.

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    vijay kumar Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    Well the Income Tax tribunal has revealed that Quarochi made 160 crores as kickbacks in Bofors. 160 crores in 1985, when an engineer from IIT Delhi got 2200 as starting salary is like 5000 crores today.

    And the CBI is trying to withdraw that case!! :)

    Wonder what all COngress apologists who hold the fig leaf to hide the Congress sins will say to this….

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    B.V.SHENOY Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Please read: http://expressbuzz.com/opinion/columnists/zero-tolerance-secret-billions/236261.html

    for fuller details about how Sonia Gandhi and Rahul Gandhi have accumulated money in the Swiss Bank accounts over the last three decades.

    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    Hello Vijay

    It is very interesting and rather difficult situation for the govt. The govt.(CBI) says that no evidence against Mr. Q, so the case be closed. The income tax tribunal says that the country has been robbed of the IT due from such payments to Mr. Chadha and Mr. Q.
    Indeed, this year, the cup of UPA govt.is overflowing with sins.
    Is n’t it the time that CBI should be reorganised in its structure? It is asking for the closure of so many cases entrusted to it for investigations as a prime investigating agency.
    BNA

    tariq Reply:

    Dear Sir,

    Thank you for your response.

    I am digressing from your main topic, with which I agree. Nevertheless, as for your comment ” Partly True. But he played a major role in giving us our Constitution” my response would be

    ” Partly true. He was made the drafting committee chairman by Patel etc. He had no contribution right form the 1020’s to the Goverment of India act, 1935, to all the other subsequent editions of the constitution. He joined as late as in 1947/48 and was only drafting observations made in the Constituent Assembly and infact disowned the constitution no less than 2 times. You can still give the benefit of doubt and say that he was part of the constitution forming process. But “Major Contribution” he did not do. Neither is he in reality the “father of the constitution”. This is my humble submission and the records for the above are available in records of the constituent assembly and parliament. Thanks!

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  • B.V.SHENOY

    Vinodji,

    you have said, “Pl cite an objective, dispassionate authority. I know about Gurumurthy too well to be misled. As for Rahul, you are way off the mark. Pl read the Hindu of that day to gauge what he told the US envoy and what the latter reported to Washington.”

    A rather disappointing response, though quite understandable. One of your bloggers on “Teflon Singh”, Mahesh has given the Guardian link on 26th dec., in defence of Rahul Gandhi. The Guardian has reproduced the US ambassador’s mail in toto, whereas Smitha Gupta of the Hindu, on whose article you have based your conclusion about Rahul Gandhi’s not loving the LeT, is, like yourself, a fan of his and she has turned the e-mail on its head to say that it was the ambassador and not the yuvaraj, who had cautioned the other about Hindu organisations being the greater terror.

    As for Sonia Gandhi’s stashing away of billions in Swiss Bank accounts, Gurumurthy has only quoted a reputable Swiss magazine and irrefutable notes of KGB.

    Would you now say that because Gurumurthy is an RSS camp follower and hence disreputable (in your eyes), the Swiss magazine and KGB sources (which he has quoted) too are disreputable and hence not objective enough and not diapassionate enough?

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  • http://alaninabox.com/2009/12/13/underground_house/ Wanda B. Santana

    The ongoing Mahabharat in the Bharatiya Janata Party BJP after the Lok Sabha poll debacle shows that there is nobody in party like Atalji who can match up his leadership qualities. Atalji used to consider various opinions expressed by party members and then used to put forward his views. After witnessing six years of stable rule by Atalji and five years of rule by Manmohanji the citizens of the country found it difficult to trust such a Front.

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  • Kushal

    Ooooh, my sssssympathiesssss, Massssha.

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  • Kushal

    Thanks, Sushmita!

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  • Anamika

    Oh!!! This is divine intervention – a physiotherapist named Dr. Bookwala I mean. I’m sure you’re attending every session religiously, just to have a chance at calling out aloud to her ;-)

    Hope your wrist has healed and you’re better.

    Cheers!

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  • RajX

    Khorakiwala sounds like a great, honest and ethical business person as well as a educationalist. Hats off to him for his achievements. Wonder why his death did not make the feont pages? Is Zia mellowing or what? No “us against them” and “world against ummah” type articles from him the last two times? Miracles can happen even in Kalyug I guess.

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  • Anonymous

    Shan,

    Why have you stopped visiting Mr. Sharma’s blog ?

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