It’s not about saving BJP. It’s about saving Karnataka



I often wonder what our political class is doing to its image and credibility among the people? An exhibition of its very commonplace sordid ways is what the Indian Express so tellingly branded as the natak in Karnataka.

One cannot take sides in the theatrics that robbed Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa of whatever credibility he had on being publicly humiliated by the mining Mafia led by the Reddy brothers some months ago. Deve Gowda’s Janata Dal (Secular) is another villain of the abysmal show driven by nothing but the lust for power. The issues at stake have little to do with good governance, probity in public life or providing people the government they deserve.

The Congress for its part is letting an old foggy engage in street antics that belittle his party and the high office he occupies. Governor H R Bhardwaj’s brazen ways were evident in his interaction with the media even as the High Court heard legislators disqualified by Speaker K G Bopaiah. The Center hasn’t revealed yet its mind. But its foremost duty is to ensure there are no winners in this shameless battle. To come across as even handed, it must recall Bhardwaj and place Karnataka under President’s rule even if the Court rules against the dissident legislators expulsion. In that eventuality, the Congress, the second largest party, would hold the key to the nature of any future dispensation. So far, it hasn’t shown any inclination to team up with JD (S) and dissident MLAs to set up a regime.

A closer look at the fallout from the ugly political face-off would reveal that the judiciary— which has to adjudicate on the Chair’s decision to send 16 rebel MLAs packing — would gain an upper hand over the legislature. Bopaiah and Bhardwaj’s conduct is reminiscent of the happenings in Jharkhand where too the Court handed down instructions to the Governor and the Speaker on how to conduct the trust vote in a badly divided house.

Bhardwaj has talked more than his share and the JD (S) nursed ambitions way beyond its strength in the House. On balance, however, Yeddyruppa’s follies are bigger. He had no moral or political authority left on being led by his nose by the mining syndicate. He was forced to drop his favorite minister Shobha Karandlaje; had to withdraw levies on mined iron ore and reinstate officials he had removed to teach the Reddys a lesson. Karandlaje is back as a minister in the reshuffle that triggered the latest revolt, putting Yeddyurappa’s own job at risk. He’s more vulnerable now than he was in his previous fight.

Rather than checking corruption, the CM has since fallen to its lure, if the land-grab charges against him and his family are true. The public spat he had with the Lokayukta — who charged the government with frustrating the Ombudsman’s efforts to fight corruption— earned him more notoriety. The Constitutional machinery in Karnataka hasn’t stopped functioning now. It ceased to exist when the Reddy clan put the CM’s face in the mud by earning reprieves for friendly and allegedly corrupt civil servants. Their support of Yeddyurappa now is aimed at protecting their ill-gotten empire.

What then could be the best-case scenario for Karnataka? Sack the Governor and the CM, place the Assembly under suspended animation. That’ll pave the way for a new occupant in the Raj Bhawan running the State’s affairs through a set of efficient and honest advisors. That’s the least the people of Karnataka deserve— from the BJP, the Congress and the JD (S). Will they rise to the occasion? Doubtful!

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  • Ashish

    Hmm..
    What then could be the best-case scenario for Karnataka? Sack the Governor and the CM, place the Assembly under suspended animation. That’ll pave the way for a new occupant in the Raj Bhawan running the State’s affairs through a set of efficient and honest advisors
    Vinodji,
    1. Why place the Assembly under suspended animation? Why not dissolve it? Call for fresh elections.
    2. You seem to think a governor’s rule will be better than being ruled by elected representatives. All I can say is, this is what comes off covering Pakistan for so long!
    3. What makes you think that the party that appointed HR Bhardwaj as a governor, will appoint a good person this time?
    Incidentally, next time MMS survives a trust vote by less than stellar means, will you ask for President’s rule as well? Or, are the treatments different for different parties?

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    Dear Ashish,
    Despite your I-know-it-better Hmm….you”ve forgotten in your anxiety to score a brownie point that elections were held in 2008 in Karnataka. We cannot afford frequent elections and the flush of black money they pump into the system. If the assembly is kept in suspended animation, there is possibility of a new leadership emerging at another time.
    Prez rule wll not be beyond six months as the UPA does not have the numbers to have it ratified in the Rajya Sabha. Am amused that you have so conveniently forgotten the Reddy brothers and their pernicious influence on the BJP regime.

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    SM Reply:

    Dear Vinod,

    Going after opposition ruled state govt may be high on Congresses agenda. But for you it should not be the case – why start with a lowly state Govt. Should we not start with Central Govt – 2G scam, Commonwealth games scams etc for corruption and total incompetence on Naxal and Kashmir issue (to a great detriment of the Country’s future).

    In Democracy elections are only way out – who are we to decide that 2010 can’t be different than 2008. You seem to have predecided this.

    SM

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    Ashish Reply:

    Dear Vinodji,
    Honestly, you really believe new leadership will emerge from horse-trading? Irrespective of who does it; BJP or Congress or JD(S)?
    No I have not forgotten that this assembly has barely finished half its term. But, good riddance to bad rubbish. And, calling elections is probably one way the BJP can rid itself of the Reddy brothers (allow me my fondest hope!). BTW, was it necessary on my part to have mentioned the Reddy bros in the course of making the arguments that I did?
    Unlike you, it is my belief that elections are the best way to get the corrupt and the venal out of the system; by saying we can’t afford frequent elections- we allow for the thought that plutocracy or even autocracy is better that this “mess that is democracy”. Since you have a lot of experience in covering our neighbours, you must know that all such systems start off being benevolent and in the end, they are worse than the worst democracy can throw at you.

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  • Dr.G.Srinivasan

    When a few imposed their version of democracy after a british model irresponsible representative democracy where the main role of people was just to vote and nothing more , we started telling lies beginning with the constitutional preamble.”We the people “Was a lie and a farce. Otherwise we would not be having a PM at the head of a government with no voted from an election to its credit.The fallout of this system is that anybody can become a PM not once but any number of times if he/she has the blessings of the AICC chairperson!!!! The feudalism which is put in place in the name of democracy ( a party led representative form of government which breeds corruption and nepotism is the root cause of the ills) As the previous reader opined Congress is behind this manoeuvrings and we are not sure congress can change this. Any democracy should have atleast one person to whom all indians have voted for and that is possible only in a presidential form.

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  • Sanjiv

    Vinodji,

    There is a saying:

    ” What you are speaks so loudly in my ears that I do not hear what you say”

    I think that expailns everything that is coming out of HT editorials these days..

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  • GOPAL

    It is a tragedy. You have a fractured mandate originally. Every party try all the tricks in dirty books to get in to power. RSS/BJP wins the game then. They did it, not with very fair means. Suriveves by manipulation. Again the crisis arrives. The ruling party makes mokery of all decency. JD(S) tries the same tricks. Governer advises the Speacker to follow norms. RSS/BJP does not like this. How can any body tell us to be fair in our dealing, which we are not use to. The ruling party does everything possible to retain power with the means they are born with. RSS/BJP not only condons but justifys the action of a speacker who at the first plece would not been one on moral ground. All the gas bags from RSS/BJP house hold say that governor is the fall guy. The chorus is loud, as usual, Central Government gets nervous. Well, the governor says take the Vote again. Again The gas bags find fault with this. Finally, the same corrup dispensation will continue. Perhaps,People of Karnataka deserve this and nothing else. Good luck to you guys.

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  • (Dr.) B.N.Anand

    Dear Vinod Sharma ji

    Most of what you say , I want to agree. But is Karnataka different from the rest of the country? Especially when it is still in everyone’s mind how the congress govt. under Narsmihan Rao ji had survived by openly bribibg the JMM. And who can forget the tamasha which the present govt. enacted during the no-confidence motion during the nuclear bill debate. And then what happened in Jharkand, Goa and Bihar is still fresh in everyone’s mind. Every time, the congress govt. at the center had an egg on its face and the media never took the high moral ground on such occasions as it is doing in the present case. I do not say that whatever is happening in Karnataka is condonable but is n’t what is happening has become a part of political life of the country? Is it not funny that the Mr. Bhardwaj asking the CM for another confidence vote as a matter of kindness and charity? The GOP is guilty in the sense not to have led by example despite its rich history and experience in the affairs of governing the country. It is a pity that we have to bear with such a political life in the name of democracy in the country.
    Regards
    BNA

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  • vijay kumar

    Vinodji,

    THe reddy brothers need to be punished for their sin for taking the resources of India for granted.
    HOwever some of the UPA MInisters have similarly bent rules to favour their own avaition, telecom and real estate empires/

    However, why should the constitution be destroyed so that the Congress wants to sieze power in Karnataka? Why destroy centre state relations through a clearly partisan governer?

    H R Bhardawaj is back to Indira type of governer. Remember those types were the guys who created problems in Punjab and Kashmir.

    How can MMS turn a blind eye and then still pretend to be a straight guy?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Vijay, you are absolutely right. Jagmohan was the problem creator in Kashmir. No wonder the BJP is still reaping votes in the name of Kashmiri Pandits living in refugee camps.

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  • vijay kumar

    And you also have to hand a prize to Atal Behari Vajpayee that he never trid to destroy democracy through such partisan acts….

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  • Praveen Saxena

    Could all this have happened in Bangalore, without the Congress playing its dirty tricks from behind. The loud mouthed Bharadwaj is after all a Congress/ Family loyalist. He was also the Union Law Minister in the earlier UPA regime .Trying to be too clever by half , he first recommended President’s Rule , then he directed the CM to seek another vote . The HC refused to be rushed , the CM shall certainly take another Vote.
    As for the Reddy Brothers, when did they get their mining licences? From Which Government ? What was the nature of their relationship with Y S Rajshekhar Reddy ?
    The fact of the matter is that the Congress and the other secularists like the disgraced humble farmer are unable to come to terms with the BJP govt and would try every trick to dislodge it.

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  • ishwar

    PVNarsimha Rao can do it.
    MMSingh is also allowed.
    BSYeddyurappacan not do it. Why?

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  • http://- Rajeev

    The congress has historically used Governers and Article 356 to destablise non-congress govts. in the states so this crisis in Karnataka is nothing to be surprised of. I think BJP is also partly to be blamed for this crisis. The BJP of today is actually mirror image of congress when it comes to corruption and politics involving corruption. The BJP has inducted many aayaram-gayaram in its fold who have no inclination towards core-BJP ideology (discipline being one) and are there with it just for the sake of power. It is time BJP start cleaning up procedure evenif it means loosing power.
    The BJP should not become clone of corrupt congress and I think it lost in lok sabha election because people started feeling that BJP was carbon-copy of congress.

    As far as Congress is concerned, less said the better. Our honest PM won trust vote using Corrupt practices. We have seen how Gov. have behaved in Bihar, Jharkhand and Goa. I personally feel today’s gov. are agensts of central gov. whose only aim is to please political masters (Sonia).
    I’d call Gov.Bharadwaj political terrorist who needs to be controlled. Infact most of the congress Gov. are political terrorist in non-congress states. There should be a provision in constituition that Gov. should be from non-political background and should be ratified (confirmed) by state assembly.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Just for comic relief, here is video of Rahul being booed by students in Bihar. The congress paid media blacked out this event to save image of Prince Rahul (Vindoji included).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIv_rtFWLps

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    Hello Rajeev
    Thanx for posting the link to the video clip. I watched it and for a change, enjoyed seeing Rahul Gandhi being very defensive and apologetic to the audience for the slip of his tongue with regard to saying something about Gujarat.
    BNA

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  • http://- Rajeev

    One more thing, Gov. Bharadwaj claimed that corruption was so rampant in BJP govt. that it became intolerable and he could not keep quiet. So he is actually saying that he has been actively supporting opposition in Karnataka to bring down BJP govt. Fair enough.. I applaud his honesty (totally ignoring his role in shutting case against Mr.Q Paisaab of Sonia).

    However the corruption in central govt. headed by congress PM MMSingh is unprecendented in history of India but does that mean President should also give excuse of intolearble corruption and dismiss the central govt. This won’t happen because our President is Nehru-Gandhi Loyalist but evenif we had neutral president, he/she would never overreach his/her constituitional authority as displayed by Gov. Bharadwaj.

    By the way fun fact about Bharadwaj is that he is self-confessed Casteists and favors a particular caste. We know his role as law minister in closing cases againts Paisaab of Sonia, Mr.Q then we also know how he threatened Sanjay Dutt when he chose to contest from lucknow on SP ticket. Our secular Amar Singh made a CD of that event. This guy is relic from Indira Raj and should be boycotted by BJP govt (after winning trust vote) till he is recalled and re-habilated in Sonia controlled central govt.

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  • shashi menon

    I do not see any difference in attitude between Gov. Bharadwaj and Political Editor Vinod Sharma. They are both DNA Congress and shamlessly more vocal than the 10 janpath!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Rajiv

    Sack the Governor. But who will sack when PM/Congress is involved in using non-democratic means in Karnataka ?

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  • Rajiv

    The Blog should have read..

    “Its not about enhancing Congress interests in Karnataka ..”

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  • http://- Rajeev

    Here is how an entire train can be burnt without combustible substances.
    http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=158421

    What is the opinion of our forensic expert Laloo yadavji on this?

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  • S george

    Dear Vinodji,

    Please answer the earlier question abt the Reddy Brothers,
    when did they get their mining licences?
    From Which Government have given them the licence?
    Where are there Iron ore mines are based?
    What was the nature of their relationship with Y S Rajshekhar Reddy ?

    Secondly, IF reddys are guilty because of just mining there are several congressmans who do illegal mining, some examples are Navin Jindal (JIndal group), Santosh Lad & co, YSR family (JaganMohan reddy just paid 84cr as a advance tax, more than even Birlas, check TOI) .

    Why not start by asking Naveen Jindal and Co. to return the mining lease.

    Lastly the blog should be named as

    “Its not about enhancing Congress interests in India ..”

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  • jacob

    Guys and Gals out here, this time definitely Congress is at fault. I am a law student I have gathered information about this case and I am here to tell you in simple terms that the Governor has breached the code of conduct and has not only overstepped but also shamed the nation by misusing his position. Irrespective of the terrific development brought by BJP in BJP ruled states, here definitely they are not at all wrong.

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  • vijay kumar

    The BJP government has prvoed his majority once again. SO should not Bhardwaj be thrown into the wastebin of history ???

    What is even more disturbing that the Congress and MMS, our ever honest PM chose to back a clearly partisan governer.

    Howver we should also now

    a) Check out the money being offered to the MLA’s. Who is behind it?

    b) The humble farmer Devgowda’s sons are absolutely unhumble, oily, corrupt and manipulative. Check them out

    c) But… the Reddy brothers who have the OCngress and the BJP in their pockets need to be put behind bars for selling ore belonging to you and me to the rest of the world….

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  • Naresh

    Dear Vinod,

    You are suggesting that your solution of removing the governor and imposing president’s rule is unbiased is flawed, infact it is biased. Afterall imposition of president’s rule is what the governor and the congress want and your solutions grants them that albiet unconstitutionally. As far as bharadwaj is concerned, he will get an other position and he is all set. So the only looser is BJP and that too not by consititutional means (now lets not get into corruption etc, because our central govt. takes the cake there and by your logic they should also go)

    First, it is clear that the governor has got this wrong (as suggested even by you), in which case he should be removed. Period. And if he is wrong, then by implication a lot of the horsetrading that he was facilitating was also wrong and frankly there would have been perhaps no case for a trust vote. Nevertheless, even if a trust vote had to be conducted, it was done by the speaker using past precendence and it should be accepted. Again that should pretty much end the case. There is not case for President’s rule and there is not need to balance anything. Thanks!

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Naresh
    Let us agree to disagree. You prescription means that all is well with the BJP’s trust vote and the government it has run in Karnataka since 2008. I wouldn’t go with it even while sleep walking. Sorry.

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    Anil Reply:

    If u cud be little consistent u wud be demanding sacking of Manmohan Singh govt but alas congress licking is in ur gene

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  • Vinay

    When there are 3 major parties, most of the time no party can get clear mandate and no party gets nearly zero percentage of votes. This split verdict with greedy politicians
    is bound to result in a tamasha (Be it Karnataka, or any other place in nation).

    In UK when split verdict came, Liberal Democrats the third largest party chose to assist the majority Conservative Party (even though they are traditionally with the Labour party) as people’s mandate was for Conservatives.
    But it is always a different picture in India. In 1997 Devegowda, head of the United Front (of 13 parties) with 80 MPs from Janata Dal could become PM with the external support or Congress with 140 seats, while BJP of 160 seats sat as an opposition party. In 2004, Devegowda’s son Kumaraswamy with 58 MLA from JDS became CM by allying with 80 MLAs of BJP, while Congress (with 65 MLAs) sat as an opposition party.

    What will be the difference in these choices
    1> The same Yediyurappa/Reddy govt continues.
    2> President rule and later fresh election
    3> Fresh election straight away.

    BJP can’t afford to change its leaders. It needs Yediturappa for basic number of MLAs (voter’s choice) and needs Reddy brothers for “top up” numbers (these numbers inevitably needed in a 3 party system). So no change.
    JDS : Proprietary of Devegowda family in Karnataka.
    Congress: Central congress has most of the time, preferred a poppet leader. So, no commanding leader in the party. (They are more like heroines in RajiniKanth movies). Changing the leader hardly affects party’s fortunes.

    When none of the parties are honest, their leaders being same, when MLAs can be bought from either sides, the tamasha is bound to happen every time for few more years/decades (till one party goes to oblivion). So hardly matters whether it is choice 1, 2 or 3. Cheapest choice would be 1. That is what has happened.

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  • S George

    Dear Vinay,

    Liked your reply, I am sure you could right much much better blog than anyone in Hindustan Times Including Mr. Vinod Sharma. He even deleted one of my reply, and i cant be asked to write a new one.

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @S George
    I don’t delete anything on this blog. The charge against me in fact is that I let even the worst and most abusive of comments remain. Pl repost what you had wanted to say.

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  • http://- Rajeev

    Now I think that Karnataka State assembly should be dissolved and fresh elections should be held.
    The people of karanataka deserve better than this. They will have choice to elect back secular, pro-center, corrupt Congress JD-S or communal, anti-center and equally corrupt BJP. What a great choice they have!!!

    It looks like Congress is buying journalists and media one by one-
    1. Rajdeep – Padamshri awarded by UPA
    2. Barkha – Padamshri awarded by UPA
    3. Vinod Sharma – re-habilitated as member of minority commission
    4. Dilip padgaonkar – re-habilitated as head of Kashmir interlocutors group.
    5. Vinod Mehta – is working as editor of Congress Sandesh also called Outlook
    6. Vir Sanghvi – The Rajiv Gandhi award for Journalism (you know for what)
    7. Prannoy Roy – Spokesperson of left wing in congress

    In most of the countries, media and opposition keep govt. in check but in India, media uses all its time in discrediting opposition, works are mouthpiece of govt. (rather congress party), gives secular or communal certificate based on pro or anti-congress inclination, prints paid news..This leaves opposition in tatters..media pokes fun at opposition in tatters..this cycle goes on thus making congress more credible and opposition as bunch of incompetents bafoons.

    The people of India are not mature enough to understand importance of neutral media or media with certain inclination. I have no problem with media house who openly loyalty to a certain party but I hate media houses who claim to be neutral but keep covering up for their masters in power.

    The behavior of Rajdeep Sardesai during trust vote (he refused to air cash for vote scandal) is perfect example of how Indian media is corrupt to the core.

    We have choice of voting out corrupt politicians but who will vote out corrupt media.

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  • http://- Rajeev

    This blog should be renamed as “It’s not about saving Karnataka. It’s about saving Congress Governer”

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  • vijay kumar

    Vinodji,

    India did manage to hold a gr8 CWG. Do you really think any other country, except Australia in the list of 71 would manage to hold such an event?

    As u said, you are just back from Europe. Now which country out there has the financial capacity to create this big stadia and infrastructure like India?

    So why don’t you ask your pal, the silencer to shut up for a change.

    Now the Congress can cash mighty big on this success. But in case the silencer gases this out, it would be a bad scene for the congress.

    However….

    Let us pay a tribute to the 22000 volunteers of the games…

    the 6400 international and Indian athletes who participated….

    and the 101 Indians who won us medals…. :) :)

    let not some jealous idiot hurt India again. Of course let us hold a probe for corruption to punish the guilty.

    But not get into the mode of calling the goras and saying, ” Look someone has done tatti in the village…. do u think Indians are dirty?”

    This is what the press and the silencer were doing. Let us rise above all that.

    Jai ho !!

    PS: By the way I like the way you defended the athletes on Times now as well as the positives of the games.

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    Hello Vijay
    Yes, the CWG in Delhi were fabulous by all accounts. The Olympic stadium in Munich (Germany) in Europe is still the best. I have seen it myself many years after the Munich Olympics were held. I still believe Germany is the only country in Europe which can do even now, going by even its present economy.
    Regards
    BNA

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    Hello Vijay
    I just forgot to ask where is Mr. Mani Shankar Aiyar? Just have a thought for him as well.
    BNA

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    vinod sharma Reply:

    @Vijay Kumar and Dr B N Anand
    Dr Anand is right. The Germans are the world’s best engineers— automobiles included. I was in Hamburg last week where USD 7 billion are being invested to expand and decongest the city.
    I very pleased with the final outcome of the CWG. But it is always good to learn from others to get better.

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    vijay kumar Reply:

    Absolutely.

    We can learn engineering and pefection from Germans.

    But we can also teach them how to respect all races and religions !! :)

  • Engr Manohar Lal YADAV

    Dear Vinod Sharma ji , I was greatly impressed by your thoughts expressed in an interview of Hari Shankar vyas of ETV on 14th Oct . I liked the clarity in thoughts . Please send me your email to exchange views in future . I am a regular reader of Hindustan times .Warm respectful regards -Engr Manohar Lal Yadav

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  • vijay kumar

    @ Dr Anand,,

    Mani made a rather subdued statment on an enquiry on corruption. With Sonia and Rahul clearly enjoying the CWG he will be wise to chose his words carefully.

    However I too would want an enquiry into

    a) How a Sports Minister tried to Torpedo the CWG once the challenge had been taken

    b) How to prevent corruption in our construction industry and infrastructure projects

    c) Why and how were all the projects in the delay mode

    d) The effects of the negaitbve reporting by channels for revenue and TRP’s

    However I do know that the corruption in the games is “normal.” Does anybody out here rally feel that the MCD and DDA have become sanatan Dharma organization just because the CWG is over :) :) :)

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  • Vinay

    Re: Karnataka
    First of all, Bellari Reddy brothers (sons of police constable) could not have become this rich (their mining company shares both Karnataka and Andra borders) unless the support of deceased YSR who was a Congress Chief minister and a close ally of Sonia (In 2005, 500 acres on lease to mine iron ore, 17,000 acres allocation in 2007 for setting up a steel plant and another 4000 acre to construct an all weather airport; all in Andhra). BJP, Congress both have a tainted face. About Gowda family; less said the better. Then, who is not a share holder in corruption?

    If there was no confidence motion with the government, it is not because of the corruption (how can it be, when none of the parties are honest), but because these people (and many other ministers) are not able to get along with “high handedness” of chief minister, more importantly an ally of chief minister in their department, who is just one more minister like any of them.
    Now; every CM in Karnataka (or any other state) have had one close ally who has high handled other’s department. For Devegowda it used to be C.M. Ibrahim, for S.M Krishna, it used to be D.K.ShivKumar (when they were chief ministers). But with Yadiyurappa, that person happened to be a lady (Shobha Karandlaje). His powerful male colleagues (including Reddy brothers) don’t tolerate this interference, which keeps blowing out of proportion now and then. Last year, to console the warring MLAs, she was dropped out of cabinet; her induction in cabinet last month again witnessed one more turmoil, but she is saved from axe. But for how long?
    Right now, Shobha does not command as much popularity as Jayalalitha or Mayawati among masses (who straight away became political heirs to their mentors), nor has the boldness to rise the sensitive issue (can anybody in Indian politics be?) and ask the people point blank, what bothers the voters most; corruption/under development of a state or personal conduct of two individuals. The BJP, “self proclaimed moral upholders/police” of the nation keeps quiet. They don’t know which one to choose. Local RSS backs Shobha (so far, there is no corruption charges on her), but can’t take on the head madam Sushma Swaraj who openly supports Reddys. So status quo of inbuilt tension remains. Soon expect to see one more “no confidence motion” against Yediyurappa government.

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  • http://www.rediff.com Paritosh

    this is something just out of topic.

    some Australian (Arsetralian) athletes went berserk and vandalised their room in the CWG village. they also allegedly threw off a washing machine from the 8th floor and destroyed all the electrical wirings.

    the reason for their uncivilized conduct was India’s unexpecteed success at the CWG and the defeat they had to face in cricket. they also abused Sachin Tendulkar several times.

    the spineless cockroach , SM Krishna has quoted this as a minor issue.

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  • vijay Kumar

    Paritosh,

    Blame it on the vitriolic and spineless Indian media. Most of them went on an overdrive to hit chappals at Indians before the CWG.

    They were literlally telling the goras and the whites, “Sir… the toilets in India are not working. Are’nt we dirty?”

    Ha ha ha :) :) what a joke these guys had become…. just for TRP”s and ads on channels.

    WE hold the best possible games with immaculate opening and closing ceremonies. But the Channels could only see the “shit side of things”

    Let us now probe the corrupt (without a witch hunt) but also take pride in our achievments and in the perfomances !

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    Vinay Reply:

    Bridge falling was a real cause of concern. False roof or dirty toilets could have been fixed in a day (and there were 2 weeks left). There was no need to flash those photos everywhere.

    Reading about Rahul and Sonia meeting the CWG medal winners while Kalmadi deliberately kept out. So these people (having no responsibility on their shoulders) are share holders in success of CWG and Kalmadi is responsible for all the mess.

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  • Vinay

    The only way Karnataka can get stable non-corrupt government is only when an impossible ally becomes possible. That is a BJP(without Reddy’s)-Congress (without DK Shivkumar) alliance.

    Consider this: Though Karnataka voted for BJP, people in the state are not polarized like in Gujarat. Gujarat has its own reasons (Somnath, partition times, Godhra etc). But Karnataka has none of these reasons for hatred between the communities. Tipu Sultan though a was quite nasty to Kerala people, when it came to his kingdom he was as kind as a Hindu ruler. Mirja Ismail as a Diwan made a great team with Hindu Raja (Wodeyar) in Mysore, but could not get along with Nizam of Hyderabad, hence resigned. Except some minor tensions, by and large there has been a communal harmony. Then what made people choose BJP?

    Till 80s, Karnataka was a Congress fort. Then it leaned towards opposition parties. That time it used to be Janata Party. But when its leaders brought their party down because of their personal greed, people had to look at other alternatives. BJP was the only choice. People thought BJP will counter “appeasement” with “honesty”. No other intentions. But that has gone in vein. If the buzz of one of the Reddy brothers becoming deputy CM is true, that is the last nail in the coffin of BJP’s future in Karnataka.

    My question is; Congress can ally with Muslim League, it can ally with JDS which has shared government with BJP, then why is it hesitant to touch BJP straight? (Both have a tainted face. One in Delhi other in Godhra riots). JDs exploits this situation best. When it allies with BJP, it says it did so to prevent corrupt congress out of the govt. When it allies with Congress it says, it had to prevent communal BJP out of power. Truth is, there is no ideology in any parties. The “communal”, “secular” cards are thrown at fancy.

    Many in Karnatka Congress are not bothered about Hindutva ideology. Mahima Patel who is right now in Congress was actually in JDS-BJP alliance before (He resigned when JDS refused to transfer power to BJP). He could be compared to Kumaraswamy, son of ex CM, belonging to a dominant caste except the fact that his hands are clean. There is nothing wrong, if people like him join hands with non corrupt young leaders of BJP like Shobha Karandlaje. But the seniors in both the parties (dreaming of CM posts) can never allow this.

    True: Sonia-Sushma Swaraj have issues. Rahul-Varun have issues. But why shouldn’t two parties ally even if their leaders have issues? Nitish Kumar is part of NDA though he has issues with Modi. Whom ManMohan Singh would find easy to work with; Mamata Banerjee or Gadkari:the saffron terror? Also, prince Rahul needs to understand the difference between RSS and SIMI.

    If this (polarization against corruption) doesn’t happen, then only choice for Karnataka is Yeddi with corrupt Reddys or Congress with corrupt Gowda family.

    Ideologies have gone faded anyway, why can’t “development” be the only mantra?

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  • vijay kumar

    That is the problem, Vinay. The bigger picture is never seen. All this will encourage negative idiots like Mani Silencer Aiyar to come on the channels and say, “we are too incompetent to hold the games….”

    The next phase of the Delhi METRO will cost 20,000 crores. Get Mani Aiyar and Arundhati Roy on a panel and they will give you a thousand reasons a)why the Metro is a waste of money b) Why the Metro creates unemployment in scooter and taxi drivers. c) Why the money should be better spent on some Rajiv Gandhi yojana.

    Basically the lust for money and fame makes people do funny things.

    We should probe the corruption, only to punish the guilty and to improve for the future. Not create scandals for TRP’s.

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    Paritosh Reply:

    @ vijay kumar

    Arundhati Roy stands for everything that is anti-development and pro-communist/socialist .

    by the way dont you think that the Delhi police should arrest and thrash up these Arsetralians in prison. the way this matter has been trivialised by SM COCKROACH Krishna and other members of higher authority , related to the games , shows that India still licks the feet of its gora sahib.

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  • Anil

    Shameless boot-lickers of congress are at it again.
    Exactly this happend in Goa in 2005 where speaker disqualified few MLAs and won confidence vote and beneficiary was congress . Even court raitified it . Somehow these congress lickers can;t digest the same story being played when BJP is benficiary.

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  • Ramachandran

    Dear Vinod,

    You are not fair at all. We the patriotic Indians view people with Padmashri with suspision. Narendra Modi who devoted his life even sacrificing his family life for the welfare of people, is the true leader of India. Vinod true award to you come from the heart of the people and not from the Govt. If you got a heart please be fair.

    The most obvious form of corruption is dynastic rule, the worst form donation to India from Nehru family.
    The second most obvious form of corruption is allocation of unfair amount of central fund to Raibareily and Amethi. It is nothing but bribing people to get elected for generation.

    As far as Karnataka is concerned this is a creation of Congress and JD(s) therefore they only need to be blamed. people will give proper reply to them.

    The trust you given to Prime minister that a fair CWG trial will be conducted is ill placed. PM and Defence Minister are honest but they could not controll the corruption. Why PM failed to monitor what is happening in CWG when the cost was escalating so much. Why telecom ministry commited such fraud. How Quotrochi was left free. You will see that forget about three month the CWG enquiry will never get over in three years.

    So don’t put all parties in same level. Of the existing parties any fair person will say BJP is far better placed the rule India. Like Gujarat true devolopment will get justice to all cast creed and religion.

    I pray once again Vinod be fair. Only truth will survive and brings true happiness and not any position you get as bribe.

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  • Rajeev Ranjan Baisantry

    Dear SM,
    Hindustan may have of late become Scamistan, but there nothing to be cheered about what is going on in Karnataka. Your defence of the state of affairs of your home state( I Presume so). is like a sieve. Bellary does not any more appear to be a part of the Indian state. It exists as an independent geographical entity out side the Indian state. Thanks to BJP, Bellary has ceded away from India much before Kashmir could manage .

    RRB

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  • Anonymous

    Whoa…goin by ur description, brunch cover-page z surely gonna b a treat i guess!! N abt e-reader, i 2 feel d same….its no substitute for an actual book.. i enjoy putin my sign on d first page of each buk tat i buy ;) … N ya Advanced Happy Diwali!!!

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  • Anonymous

    zia my mate CALM DOWN , not so fast yeh, Holy Maccaroni , only a semblance of election in arab world and zia is already blowing the trumpet of Second Islamic Renaissance.The word renaissance means NEW LEARNING. That new learning in case of Islam ought to be, that ALL THAT IS WRITTEN IN QUORAN IS MOSTLY HOCUS POCUS , HADITH IS A MISOGYNIST VILE DOCUMENT BASED ON HEARSAY.
    THE NEW LEARNING SHOULD BE “HUMAN BEINGS ARE AT THE CENTRE OF ALL DISCOURSE AND NOT ISLAM OR ALLAH” as was the case in the TRUE RENAISSANCE

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,
    Bang on target..I in fact see Arab world going back in 7th century where non-muslims will be hounded out by Islamists. There have been numerous attacks on christians in Egypt post so called Islamic renaissance.

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    Sibghat Khan2 Reply:

    This is not the renaissance of Christian who started crusade against Islam and Muslims all over the world and grabbed their nations ,continuously fought for two hundred years ,brutally killed looted their propirty. Islam taught to their Militia not to cut trees which bears fruits , not to kill old, disable ,infants and to those who does not wish to fight with you .Not to destroy worship places,that is why you will find Christian and Jews living peacefully in almost all the Midle East countries .All these three religion are monotheist and are branches of Ibrahimi religion who forbade to worship none except one God .A muslim is allowed to marry with Christian and Jewish girl . If you turn the pages of ancient history of India then you learn how Budhas Monestary were destroyed and entire population was chased away to other neighboring countries .Auregzeb has been called anti Hindu but he could not convert any but Sufi Hazrat chisti of Ajmer is revered by Hindus also . The Salook , common table and brotherhood brought lower strata Hindus in thousand in the fold of Islam .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dear Sibghat Khan,
    can you enlighten us Why there is no Christian and Jew in Arabian Peninsula, It was full of them at the time of Mohammed.All other Arab areas outside Arabian Penisula were populated entirely by Christians and Jews . There are some very small no. of them who have somehow survived.Mohammed had exhorted to his followers to clear whole Arab Peninsula of Jews and Christians, and they did it very faithfully.

    Destroying of places of worship started with Mohammed himself. Was Mecca muslim worship place?.Mohammed could have built another place of worship for himself.

    Please also enlighten us with reference where it is mentioned that Hindus destroyed Buddhist monasteries and chased away Buddhist people.No Buddhist has ever complained on this.
    Can you find any Hindu,Jain and Buddhist places of worship which is more than 400 years old (period upto which Muslims were in full power in above areas)from Afghanistan to Bengal, from Kashmir to Vindhyas.Any temple which would have survived would be either because of remote location or because of being very small/insignificant .
    You are totally brainwashed with this deranged cult philosphy which is called Islam.

    engrich Reply:

    can you enlighten us Why there is no Christian and Jew in Arabian Peninsula

    THERE ARE 1.5 CRORES CHRISTIANS IN ARAB WORLD.

    engrich Reply:

    Destroying of places of worship started with Mohammed himself

    PLACES OF WORSHIP ARE DESTROYED BY BRHMNS.NOT BY MUSLIMS.mecca is same so jerusalam.jews are destroying this.

    engrich Reply:

    Please also enlighten us with reference where it is mentioned that Hindus destroyed Buddhist monasteries and chased away Buddhist people.No Buddhist has ever complained on this

    aloke prayag kashi mathura and ayodhya were buhdhdist places of worship.brhmns never builted nything
    they decimated and exterminated budhhdists and jainese nd occupied their places of worship.

    Anonymous Reply:

    iGNORANCE IS THE HALLMARK OF MUSLIMS, and this geezer Khan is a living proof. Renaissance is only 500 yrs old , Crusade took place 1000 yrs ago BECAUSE MUSLIMS HAD OCCUPIED THE HOLY LAND THAT IS JERUSALEM.
    As for Muslim kindness , DOES THE NAME TAIMUR LUNG RING A BELL. How even a MULLAH TOOK PART IN SLAUGHTERING 100000 HINDUS IN DELHI.

    iSLAM IS GETTING ITS JUST DESERT FOR ALL THE SINS OF THE PAST CENTURIES

    engrich Reply:

    How even a MULLAH TOOK PART IN SLAUGHTERING 100000 HINDUS IN DELHI

    rubbish and shows ur ignorance about the subject.taimur killed most of the inhabitants of delhi which consisted mainly of muslims.

    engrich Reply:

    taimur was godless athiest though born in muslim family and hafiz quran.he conquered 68 countries in his life.he was great man.

    engrich Reply:

    THE NEW LEARNING SHOULD BE “HUMAN BEINGS ARE AT THE CENTRE OF ALL DISCOURSE AND NOT ISLAM OR ALLAH” as was the case in the TRUE RENAISSANCE

    rubbish billions were murdered after rennainance.not before.islam is based on highly moral principle.forgiveness is the supreme virtue of islam..during christaian rule in europe and america ,no other religion could survive ,while best church in europe and best temples in india were built under rule.

    most cruel and brutal wars in india took place durig vedic rule described i ramanaya geeta other holy scripture.entire orrisa was butchered by ashok before arrival of muslims.budhdhists and jainese were decmated and assimilated 2000 years before arrival of muslims.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Yeah, that’s a historical victory, if for nothing else, at least for the process it took the ultras to understand that there is no way to turn the wheel backwards and go back in time. The tragedy is that it took so long for them to understand the meaning of tolerance that Islam itself preaches.

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  • Kumars1

    Zia mian, steady on. It is early days yet. The jury’s still out. Time will only tell. At best one can say a small step has been made. Saudi is the biggest roadblock.

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  • RajX

    Have people noticed how effortlessly Zia has turned the Arab spring which is a fight for political and ecconomic freedom into some redemption of Islam. I wonder what the christian Copts who formed a significant part of the Egyptian leaders of the protest would think of that?
    It appears that the seculars who actually lead the revolution and took the hit for it have been shoved aside by the people themselves who have preferred the Islamists to the seculars in the elections held so far n Tunisia and Egypt. That tells a lot about the mindset of these people who have lived in these types of societies where a lot religious brainwashing starts on every single one of them from a young age when they are not in a position to contradict anything which is being put in their mind.

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  • RajX

    “All the Islamist parties, including the Muslim Brotherhood, have demonstrated a strong will to reconcile Islam and modernity – a much delayed project.”

    The hypocrisy of Zia and his ilk are predictable. Promoting Islamist groups in Islamic countries where minority nonmuslims are persecuted while singing secularism and doing their atmost to destroy and arabize local culture when islamists are in the minority. It’s a sign of the times that HT has such a person writing for them. Will Zia will have such opinions as in the statement above if RSS decides to contest elections directly? Hahahaha..I don’t think so.

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  • engrich

    A US arms control expert has made the astonishing claim that Pakistan’s notorious nuclear engineer AQ Khan may have proliferated nuclear technology to India.

    The source of the article is as surprising as the assertion is fantastic. In a commentary in the adults magazine Playboy, Joshua Pollack, a US policy wonk who has done work on nuclear proliferation, says India may have been the secret, unnamed “fourth country” — after Iran, Libya and North Korea — to which AQ Khan “provided the shortcut to a nuclear weapon.”

    Pollack offers little credible evidence to back the contention, other than to point similarities between the centrifuges India uses in its uranium-enrichment program and Pakistan’s own centrifuges engineered by Khan. He also cites South African court documents claiming that a member of the so-called “Khan network” supplied India’s centrifuge program with specialized equipment (mainly flow meters), starting in the late 1980s.

    According to Pollack, although India went nuclear several years before Pakistan, it was done through the plutonium route (in 1972). But New Delhi’s ability to enrich uranium remained limited, and it was not until 1986 — by which time Pakistan had been churning out weapons-grade uranium for three years — that India was ready to break ground on its uranium-enrichment facility.

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  • engrich

    how to desroy and enslave a country,

    Bring false Accusations against Government
    Phase 2) Bomb country to rubble
    Phase 3) Install your own Government
    Phase 4) Loan the money for the “rebuilding” contract
    Phase 5) Win all the contracts
    Phase 6) Heavily in debt the country
    Phase 7) Impose SAP’s through the IMF
    Phase 8) Buy all national assets for pennies
    Phase 9) Send foreign “AID”
    Phase 10) Demand foreign “AID” procure only western products
    Phase 11) Convince the world the country failed because the people are uncivilized.

    anna is on stage.which takes some time other steps.other steps are bit faster.rss is sleeping cell of international zoinism.were caught at 53 places taking training with live ammunitions..after parliament session anytime game will start.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/rahulk211267 Rahul Karmakar

    Brillanto!

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  • http://twitter.com/jafsi Jafsi™♛

    Good one.. specially this line : ‘Was Mr Hefner looking for some extra shine
    in chosing a figure below the poverty line?’
    ROFL

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