Will Kayani move his men into North Waziristan?

:):) +++++++++++++++ REVEALED< THE TRUTH ABOUT PAKISTAN+++++++++++++++++ :):)

Pakistan is a wierd country which has evolved what can truely be called the Pakistani model of growth and getting aid.

After floundering without ideology and democracy till 1978 it was unlucky to get a cobra like the evil general and martila law dictator called General Zia-ul-Haq. WHatever remaining freedoms Pakistis had were destroyed, Art and music was islamiscised and throttled. AND THEN….

The general discovered new and newer means to fool the world. — Create a crises and shout, give Pakistan aid or the world will blow up.

And that is what Pakistan is doing ever since…..

Sadly so, the poor decent Afghans have become a victim of this policy of Pakistan creating terror from that norht western Area and then breast beating , give us money so that we can tackle this threat….

This in short is the Pakistani model of growth and history.

I will give a more detailed thesis in my next writeup, so that our Pakistani friends can see the reality and help their country change

Maybe even make my uncle Vinod change….

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I dont think so. In that case they will have very little leverage left in Afghanistan. Seeing the track record of Pak army in wars with India and counter insurgency ops it doesnt seem to have stomach for counter insurgency or even for a conventional army. They are good at supressing unarmed Bangladeshis and poorly armed Balochis.

Once can see everyday Gilani begging for talks since they are not able to hold onto the presently cleared areas in FATA and SWAT with the current troop strength and they want to move troops from the Indian broder. So cant really think of them taking on the Waziris in the North.

thanks,
yash

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Dear Uncle Agent Vinod ,

You may call me repitative>>> BUT….

The sun comes out of the East everyday. WOuld you call it repitative???

Look I understand your concerns. That we should read between the lines for Pakistani policy. My reading is clear. Nothing has changed in Pakistani policy over the years. Yes but my thesis is only proven to be abslutely correct.

That Indian columnists who want friendly relations with Pakistan tend to ignore the threat it poses to India. Even in this column you have spoken of the THREAT TO AMERICA by Pakistani trrorists. Sir, can you point out whether in any of your columns you have spoken of the threat, Pakistani jihadists pose to India??

Yes, a lone bomber in America is bad. But the thousands of suicide bombers who cross over from Pakistani Central schools of suicide bombing are a thousand times bad.

Let us not have an inferiority complex that an American life is more important than an Indian life.

PS: I know I have changed you over a peiod of time. At least you have spoken of the Pakistani terrorists in this blog for the first time. Though in concern for America, not India

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Pakistan need not to take dictation from anyone. If Kyani feels deployment of soldiers in Waziristan he will but I don’t think it would be possible at this moment since our troops are already engaged in other battle grounds.

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Pak ruler, Kayani, moved his troops to S Waziristan. What happened ?
Hakimullah Mehsud, is still in the ‘video’ making business and Kayani in ‘extortion’ business !
USA calls it a ‘dispersal exercise’ by Pak army.

Mrs Clinton, now says that past Pak rulers have played ‘double game’ with USA !
What a shocker ! No one in the world knew that.
The truth is, after every regime change in Pak, USA says that the past rulers were playing ‘double game’ while the new ones are sincere.

The charade goes on.

Regarding USA, being a fool, is no defense.
For the Mumbai attack. USA courts have convicted Daood Gilani, on consiring and aiding LeT/ISI handlers in Pak. The attack killed 6 Americans. The fact that 150 plus Indians also dies, should not make that lesser of an attack !

Why is the USA not persuing to interrogate , Daood Gilani’s Pak handlers, including those in so called Pak custody ???
Why Why Why ? While its all over Pak to interrogate anyone linked to Shehzad, even thought no Americans died ?

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Sir,
The situation in which the Americans are at present reminds me of the saying,’As you sow,so you reap’.It was the U.S.A. that encouraged the Pakistan based terrorist groups to create chaos in India by giving them latest arms and ammunitions in the Kashmir valley.Gradually these terrorist groups developed into terrorist organisations with different names and they made explosions after explosions wherever they wanted in the name of ‘Sacred War’.Hardly had the Americans uttered a word when these accursed creatures went on killing thousands of innocent people. And it was only when the World Trade Centre was attacked,the Americans understood the gravity of the folly they had been committing by nourishing these miscreants.

And Sir, your assumption is right. The Americans are now losing their patience, and they are desperate.It’s silly of them to expect that a Pakistani General is going to help them in their fight against terrorism. I think Mr.Obama & Co.will be forced to find some other solutions to tackle these anti-human powers.

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@A.M.Fazil

Ever heard of the beast called Pak army-ISI-Jihaditerrorist group ??

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Pakistanis should understand that Pakistan army is a bigger threat to the existance of Pakistan than any threat from India itself. Pakistan army is the biggest hurdle in letting Pakistan- India relation ship improve because once the relationship is improved they will lose their special status,perks and previldges they enjoy in the name of guardians of National Soverignity. To counter that India should offer uniletral measures to improve relationships such as abolishing travel restrictions, trade concessions ,and establishing people to people contact making Pakistan army irrelevant. or exposed.

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Vinod,

There will be no change in the US-Pak relations. No matter what the state department may say in public, the alliance between the Pentagon and the Pakistan army remains undisturbed. Gen Kayani may go in to North Waziristan if the US makes an offer which he cannot refuse; a nuclear deal, squeezing India or more weapons may work? If there is another attempt of terrorist attack in the US that could be traced back to Pakistan, I’m sure the Pakistani govt will promptly arrest the masterminds. No demand for evidence or dossiers: the Pakistani goodness, in return for American largesse, is never in short supply.

For Indians, the relevant question should be, will Gen. Kayani go in to Southern Punjab in Pakistan to root out terrorists there?

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@Every commentator on Pak issues, particularly those as lieful as Kuldip Nayar etc

Read the following by Pakistani , Dr Manzur Ejaz, who writes for Dailytimes from Washington.

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The terrorist Question.
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No other Muslim country sponsors private religious and sectarian militias for domestic use or to achieve strategic goals. Probably, every state, other than Pakistan, knows fully well that the rise of private militias is bound to threaten the state’s monopoly of using power and coercion

We may console ourselves by
parroting the ‘conspiracy against Pakistan’ mantra over and over but the fact remains that most bombers are traced back to Pakistan. American-Jewish-Hindu conspirators may be out there to target Pakistan, but how does one explain the failed Times Square bombing attempt by Faisal Shahzad, or Aimal Kansi, all originating from Pakistan? It is a puzzling question if one goes a bit deeper.

Afghanistan is occupied by the US, Palestine by Israel and Kashmir by India, but how come none of the terrorists caught in Mumbai, Washington or New York is an Afghan, Palestinian or Kashmiri? Why do the nationals of these countries struggle on their own land instead of throwing bombs in far off places like Mumbai and New York? Therefore, the claim that terrorism, emanating from Pakistan, is triggered by the oppression of Muslims does not hold. If it was so, the bomber should be coming from occupied lands or other Muslim countries like Indonesia and Malaysia as well. Therefore, an explanation other than ‘Muslim oppression’ has to be sought.

The main difference appears to be the perpetual indoctrination of morbid ideology and state sponsorship of private religious militias in Pakistan: no other Muslim country, even theological states like Saudi Arabia or Iran, sponsors private religious and sectarian militias for domestic use or to achieve strategic goals. Probably, every state, other than Pakistan, knows fully well that the rise of private militias is bound to threaten the state’s monopoly of using power and coercion.

In addition, the US funding and concoction of international jihad — never a part of Muslim ideology before the anti-Soviet crusade in Afghanistan — broke the camel’s back. Pakistani Muslims were always vulnerable to such a disastrous worldview because of the indoctrination based on fictional history of the Muslim invasion and conquest of India.

Most importantly, the Indian Muslims led by immigrants from north and central Asia had a streak of pan-Islamism. They seriously believed that they had conquered India, not for economic gains, but to spread Islam and end ‘kufr’. They had a typical imperialist mindset to perceive themselves as civilisers of the pagans and backward people. Like all colonists, the idea of universality of their faith or worldview and its imposition was essential to justify their occupation. The British, and later on the Americans, have used similar logic for colonialism and imperialism.

The Muslim intelligentsia, particularly the historians, presented exaggerated and distorted characterisations of their invading patrons. Every Muslim ruler was presented as a destroyer of idols and appropriator of pagan wealth. The numbers were fudged and exaggerated to make their patrons more palpable to occupiers/immigrants and the audience back home in north and central Asia.

For example, Mahmud of Ghazni is presented as the destroyer of the Somnath Temple, who took back home gold and silver loaded on 100 camels and horses. Ms Thapar, an Indian historian, has proved that old manuscripts (Pali, Gujrati, etc) do not show that Mahmud ever reached Somnath or it was ever a significantly wealthy Hindu temple. Instead, it was a local temple rarely maintained by the local Hindu rajas. Furthermore, given the size and impoverishment of the population of those days, the amount of gold looted from Somnath does not make any sense. Most probably, it is a make-believe story concocted by Muslim court-historians. It suited Hindu nationalists too to make a case against Muslim occupation and, therefore, they did not challenge it either.

The converted Muslims remained backward and looked up to the invader/immigrants’ intellectual leadership and adopted their worldview. After the decline of the Mughal Empire, the Muslim intelligentsia never gave up the idea of Muslim domination and was always keen to start revivalist movements. Like their perception of fictional history, they were so detached from world reality that while Turkey was taken over by the secularist Kemal Atatürk, Indian Muslims were demonstrating for the restoration of the Usmania (Ottoman Empire) caliphate. The movement for the restoration of the ‘Khilafat’ was the most farcical, to say the least. In those days a ‘danda force’ led by a lunatic named Ilam Din in Lahore exhibited the crude violence a Muslim revivalist movement can resort to.

Whichever way one interprets the twists and turns of the history of the Pakistan movement, the new Muslim state inherited the traditional Indian Muslim mindset. The invader/immigrant worldview of history was the ethos of the Pakistani state from the very beginning. Even Jinnah’s personal secular thinking and lifestyle could not sway the traditionalists and in a couple of years Islamisation was put on the agenda through the ‘Qarardad-e-Maqasid’ (Objectives Resolution). School curriculums were structured by the traditionalists, specifically the Deobandis, portraying the Muslim invasion of India as an act of benevolence by great Muslim emperors. Even invaders like Nadir Shah and Ahmad Shah Abdali, who just came for loot and plunder, were portrayed as great men. Pakistan’s naming of its missiles after these invaders’ names shows how much the morbid worldview of traditionalist Muslim history has been transferred to our new generations.

The core of the Pakistani establishment has always remained loyal to the traditionalist Indian Muslim skewed worldview. Even secularists like General Ayub Khan and Zulfikar Ali Bhutto could not change this discourse in a substantial way. In this backdrop, when Ziaul Haq intensified the process of Islamisation and private religious/sectarian militias were sponsored by the state, the dynamics of theocratic radicalisation and destabilisation were unleashed. The US funding and training of these militias transformed them into a lethal force. They were deployed against the Soviets and then against India, but ultimately they were going to threaten the state of Pakistan and its cohort superpower, the US.

The Pakistani establishment is forced to undo these private militias but at the same time it is trying to stick to the core traditionalist ideology. It has not confronted the essence of its self-created problem and has not found an alternative ideology to govern and achieve its strategic goals. The entire political establishment has grown up with the traditionalist Pakistan ideology. Therefore, sometimes, the National Assembly committees are more conservative than the bureaucracy and military establishment.

All in all, Pakistan remains very far from undoing the debilitating received traditionalist worldview that is the mother of every kind of religious extremism, sectarianism and proliferation of religious monasteries and militias.

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Dear Vinodji,

1)My point is whatever the Americans do or do not do, whatever Pakistanis bluff or do not bluff the Indian elite and Government simply do not have a clear policy about how to deal with Pakistan tactics of terror.In fact in my humble opinion they re too self seeking greedy and rapacious as they have not time from scandals and money grabbing and squabbling over caste to entrench perpetual family rule and dynastic succession!

2)As a mature democracy and with wealth of intellectual capital surely India can do a better job. It is tiring to hear the same old lies and wishy-washy response from PM office and Foreign minister optimistic speeches which belie the ground realities. Forget the 26/11 bomb attacks in Mumbai and look back to the train attacks in Mumbai where 166 inocent victims and and many more families were deestroyed. Does India have a any answer to Pakistani machinations and American pressure?

Please comment and request for true and factual piece from your pen confronting true reality where Pakistan hits at Indian civilians and Indian government and elite are not bothered as they are not rue victims of Pak terror as thousands of crores of rupeees or millions of dollars are spent to protect them from ageing filmstars to grand children of ministers, MPs and MLAs at public cost????

Warm Regards

Ram

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@ ALL PAKISTANIS

“ANOTHER P-A-KI ARRESTED IN CHILE FOR TERRORISM ”

THERE IS A CONTINUOS CHURNING OF TERRORISTS FROM PAK…

BOTH INDIAN AND PAK ARE IT SUPERPOWERS…

IN INDIA IT IS INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY

IN PAK IT IS ISLAMAIC TERRORISM HAHAHAHHA

BEING A P-AKI SHOULD BE VERY ASHAMING NOW HEHEHEH SO MUCH FOR THE CITIZENS OF “LAND OF PURE”…. IT SHOULD HE RENAMED AS “LAND OF TERRORISTS”…. EVEN PAK COMMENTATORS IN DAWN, THENEWS, DAILYTIMES ARE QUESTIONING WHY ALL TERRORIST ACTS INTERSET AT PAK ?

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@vinod sharma

I agree with you on Awami Party. ( At least we agree on something )

But regarding PPP i have my reservations. Whenever it is out of power it makes the right noises. Yet in power it becomes hostage to its past.

Remember Benazir and the rapport she had with Rajiv Gandhi ? Well the moment she came to power she allowed and financed the Jihadi forces in Kashmir, laying the seeds of the disaster which followed for the Kashmiri people. She further felt that her English and her feminity would floor world leaders and a few Indian journalists who would write purple prose praising her.

Net result— Indo Pak relations never took off.

And then when she lost power and visited Delhi, again she made the right noises and floored our journalist community.

So it is with Zardari.

So it is with Shah Qureshi who sounded so passionate about India- Pakistan when he met Pranab. And the very next day 26/11 happened.

Now the same Shah Qureshi shouts like a maniac on how India has had to bend to talk to Pakistan.

Don’t think PPP can ever be trusted too much….

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Akash, I agree with you . Unless Pakistani society is able to free it self from self imposed religious mania and decides to be a modern democratic secular nation it has no future.

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What are the options of US? Limited. What are the options of Pakistan? List ‘A’ and a duplicitous list ‘B’.

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Same bloggers making same make belief comments. As far as Uncle Sam and European white boys are concerned, they want help and they want it fast. These folks are stuck in Afghanistan and putting the heat on Pakistan. Our idiotic friends to east think (make belief) that with the help of US and India can do something. Yes indians can do something and that is only on the internet blogs and talk big. Look what in T/20 world cup.

Indian and India cannot do anything against Pakistan unless the white boys help you.Think about it if two superpowers failed in Afghanistan, what makes you think that India can face Pakistan.
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Marines at Camp Leatherneck in Helmand Province, Afghanistan. (Chris Hondros/Getty Images)

By Mark Memmott

“If there is one thing that just about everyone can agree upon when it comes to Afghanistan,” NPR’s Jackie Northam reported today on Morning Edition, “it’s that the battle against Taliban insurgents (in Afghanistan) can not be won by military means alone.”

And as she reports, “lately there are tentative discussions about the need for a negotiated settlement with the Taliban

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@uncle vinod sharma,

Dear uncle jibes about gay love at your age !! Hai Ram…. yeh aapko shobha nahin detaa….

Or maybe you are trying the old policy of divide and rule, when you cannot win an arguement …:)

Errr…. I hope you have not been comprimised in a honey trap like Madhuri Gupta, during your Islamabad posting!

Sorry for being curious….

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@ VINOD(GAY) SHARMA,

HEY IF YOU HAVE SUCH G-AY FANTASIES WHY DONT YOU SHIFT TO SHARUKH KHANS NEIGHBOURHOOD OR EVEN GO TO PAKISTAN WHERE I AM SURE THERE ARE LOT OF MULLAHS IMPRESSED BY YOUR LOVE FOR PAK AND ARE READY TO EMBRACE YOU AND KEEP YOU WARM INSIDE THEIR KURTAS………..

AFTER ALL WHAT IS A LANGUAGE … JUST A MEDIUM OF COMMUNICATIONS…. IF ONE IS ABLE TO CONVEY WHAT HE WANTS THE SPELLINGS AND ALL DONT REALLY MATTER UNTIL UNLESS ONE IS TAKING ENGLISH LITERATURE EXAM…

I FELT THAT BY HARPING ON THOSE QUINTESSENTIAL THINGS YOU ARE DIGRESSING FROM THE TOPIC.

I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU REFRAIN FROM USING OTHERS NAME IN NONSENSICAL WAY.

THANKS,
YASH

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Must read, from India’s ex top diplomat Chinmaya Garakhan, from Hindu

http://beta.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article429238.ece

‘Trust’ is too loaded a term to be used in inter-state discourse; ‘confidence-building’ is a well accepted phrase and is safer to employ. The new buzzword in India-Pakistan dialogue is ‘trust deficit.’ Trust ‘deficit’ presupposes that there is trust, only its quantity or/and quality have diminished. Was there ever a time when there was ‘trust’ between the two countries?

The circumstances surrounding Pakistan’s creation and its aggression in Kashmir ensured that there could be no ‘trust’ between the countries. Indira Gandhi tried ‘trust’ — she trusted Z.A. Bhutto to deliver on his promise of internationalising the Line of Control, made to her in Shimla — on the basis on which she agreed to all that she did in Shimla. Did Manmohan Singh trust Pervez Musharraf? We do not know but Indians cannot forget that the General was responsible for Kargil which cost us the lives of more than 800 of our best and bravest. Atal Bihari Vajpayee surely did not trust him after his experience at Agra.

It came as no surprise that our Prime Minister went all the way in Thimphu, responding positively to Pakistan’s demand for resumption of dialogue at the political level. He jumped the several steps on Pakistan’s ‘road map’ and met his Pakistani counterpart in Bhutan for over an hour. Thus the road map suggested by Pakistan got reversed; it started at the highest political level and will be followed up at the ministerial and Secretary levels. He has set himself the vision of establishing cordial relations and is determined to shame Pakistan into good neighbourly behaviour.

Sometimes, this approach can work. Going by media reports quoting unnamed MEA sources, Pakistan seems to have sold the line that Yusuf Raza Gilani has armed himself with new and enhanced powers under the 18th amendment to Pakistan’s Constitution, making him a worthy interlocutor for the serious discussion of all weighty issues. This may be overstating things a bit. Perhaps the ‘official sources’ felt the need for this argument to justify to the public as well as sceptics within the ruling coalition the resumption of dialogue. The real question is whether Mr. Gilani has the authority to take decisions that the army, including the ISI, might not approve of or whether he would have to clear all the issues in dealing with India, Afghanistan, Kashmir, etc. first with the military. As for the Pakistan Peoples Party, Asif Ali Zardari seems to be in control, as evidenced by the fact that the government has decided to declare the Swiss cases against him ‘closed.’ Mr. Gilani’s claim to be the valid interlocutor with Dr. Singh must be taken with a fistful of salt.

It is essential that India does not engage Pakistan in talks without a clear idea of what it expects of the neighbour in terms of reducing the ‘trust deficit’; it cannot be simply a case of making a subjective judgment on whether Pakistan has done anything, or enough, to reduce the deficit. There are quantifiable criteria which can be spelt out and even publicly announced by our side.

At the same time, we must be objective in our analysis and approach. As for prosecuting the perpetrators of 26/11, a judicial process is on in Pakistan. After the role the judiciary has played in toppling Gen. Musharraf and considering the role it wants to play in applying the revocation of NRO to Mr. Zardari, it would not be fair to doubt its independence. By the same token, it is unfair on the part of those in Pakistan who cast aspersions on our judicial process — whereby the two Indians co-accused with Kasab were acquitted of all charges. We must note that the Pakistan government has not joined in these allegations.

The most important criterion has to do with terrorism. A statement by the Pakistan Prime Minister that his government will not allow Pakistan’s territory to be used for terrorist acts against India does not, by itself, carry much meaning. It should be accompanied by specific action. There should be credible evidence of Pakistan vigorously pursuing the prosecution of the perpetrators of the Mumbai blasts. We need not keep harping on the slow pace of the process, so long as we are satisfied with the seriousness of the prosecution. Pakistan can certainly do more to contain Hafiz Saeed. It takes recourse to the unconvincing argument that it is unable to produce admissible evidence against this terrorist, but it can definitely take administrative action to bring him under control.

A related test is the rate of infiltration across the LoC. Our government has officially declared that it has gone up, and is a matter of concern. It should not at all be difficult to determine whether Pakistan has taken any measure to eliminate, or at least significantly reduce, infiltration. Similarly, the terrorist training camps — the existence of which in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir and elsewhere is a known fact — should be dismantled. This is another assessable factor.

Pakistan managed to introduce Balochistan in Sharm-El Sheikh in the official India-Pakistan dialogue. However, no less a person than its Foreign Minister said, post-Thimphu, that Dr. Singh had categorically assured his Pakistani counterpart that India had no intention of destabilising Pakistan. The fact that Shah Mehmood Qureshi mentioned this to the Pakistani media suggests that he and his government were satisfied that India was not in any way involved in Balochistan; it should, therefore, refrain from bringing it up in future discussions with us or others.

It follows that Pakistan should stop objecting to the presence of our consulates in Afghanistan. Similarly, it should stop protesting against our development assistance to Afghanistan which has no hidden anti-Pakistan agenda. In fact, it can join India in some of the projects. This will help in persuading General McChrystal not to make gratuitous remarks about our assistance to Afghanistan — of the kind he made in his written report to President Barack Obama.

We should expect that Pakistan too will have its yardstick to assess whether or not India has done enough to reduce the trust ‘deficit’. Kashmir would be on top of its agenda. We should not shy away from discussing Kashmir. After all, it is our territory it has occupied illegally for the past six decades; why should we not discuss with Pakistan the ways and means of getting the occupied territory vacated? If it brings up the long-dead United Nations resolutions, as its Foreign Minister recently did raise in its National Assembly, it will indicate that it is not serious about discussing Kashmir. In any case, is Pakistan ready to pull out all its forces, regular and irregular, from PoK, which is a condition precedent to the holding of any referendum? It is also worth recalling that the U.N. resolutions give only two options to the Kashmiri people — accession to India or Pakistan. Azadi is not an option.

We must not feel embarrassed or go on the defensive if Pakistan wants to talk Kashmir. We must also not revive the Musharraf deposit about his so-called four-point proposal. We must not leave Pakistan in any doubt that the only solution, which in any case will need endorsement from the Indian Parliament, is to convert the LoC into an international border. If Pakistan does not agree, we will be under no compulsion to offer anything by way of ‘out-of-the-box’ proposals. In any case, we must not agree to any ‘confidence-building’ measure which would give Pakistan a locus standi, however indirect, in the affairs of the Valley, in a consultative or any kind of mechanism. ‘Trust’ must have its limits. We can certainly agree on and encourage more people-to-people contacts, etc.

Of late, Pakistan has whipped up domestic sentiment against India on the water issue. It will certainly bring it up in any dialogue with us. Here, it is important to acknowledge that Mr. Qureshi has publicly admitted that the water woes of Pakistan are a consequence of its own mismanagement of its resources and that India is not to blame. If Pakistan has specific complaints, it should be encouraged to raise them within the framework of the Indus Waters Treaty. However irrational, Pakistanis are not suicidal; they know that the IWT is much more generous to them than to India and they would not want to renegotiate it.

The people of India are not against talking to Pakistan. Indeed, nearly all political parties support dialogue. What they do not favour is India going into the talks with its eyes shut. What they do not approve of is profession of good neighbourliness unaccompanied by matching action, and repetition of the usual mantras of not allowing Pakistan’s territory for terrorism against India. They are also not convinced that asking for American intervention is the right or dignified thing to do; it gives an image of an India that is not self-confident. We must have well defined criteria or benchmarks, some of which have been spelt out above, to judge whether or not Pakistan has done anything to reduce the ‘trust deficit.’ If the civilian government in Islamabad can deliver on the issues, we would welcome it.

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Conclusion : India must be extremely careful in engaging Pakistan.
From Shimla to Lahore declaration , every previous engagement, has ended in India getting cheated or defrauded by Pakistan.

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Dear Uncle Vinod !

I can picture you like Shakespeare pictured his characters—moving around the multistoried Hindustan Times building in Connaught Place and gloating and smirking with joy—that you have managed to answered me or Yash up !

Well, dear uncle, live in your fools paradise because here cometh back Vijay…  

First, your professions of gay love can only be a reflection of desires deep inside. Nothing wrong now, after all section 377 has been repealed. But unlce ji, aunty won’t like this….  

And then again the stupid question of Pakistan. Mere bhai… sorry uncle, whatever thesis you give here, Pakistan just doesn’t change in a positive manner. As Rajiv pointed out earlier, it would require a cataclysmic event. Like Nazi Germany was made to change by the world.

Maybe we should all debate on how to put this cataclysmic event together. Or at least debate on how to do a reverse brainwash of the Pakistani people to make them stop believing that they are going to jannat if their jihadis convert or blow up people all around the world…. 

Cheers!!

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India getting ready to be fooled again.
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Pak army and ISI looks like getting ready to take advantage of this new phase of foolish and suicidal engagement with Pak.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_militants-regrouping-in-pakistan-occupied-kashmir-to-cross-over-to-indian-side_1383400

Militants regrouping in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir to cross over to Indian side
PTISaturday, May 15, 2010 14:38 IST Email

ISLAMABAD: Militants have regrouped in large numbers in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir and are crossing the Line of Control to sneak into the Indian side of the Himalayan region, local residents and political leaders have said.

The militants have regrouped and launched jehadi activities in the Neelum valley on the Pakistani side of the LoC, local politician Arif Shahid said. Local residents and Shahid said the militants were not from PoK.

“Jihadi activities have been restarted during the last few weeks,” said Shahid, the secretary general of the All Parties National Alliance.

“Most of the activities are concentrated in the Neelum valley along the LoC,” Shahid told the BBC.

Shahid, who had visited the region with other APNA leaders, said the militants were based there in large numbers and had set up camps in the area.

“The men are not locals they have long hair and beards. Most do not speak the local language,” he said.

Residents of Neelum valley backed Shahid’s assertions. “We are scared… The armed men are moving around the area and are trying to cross the border,” a local resident said.

“We can make out from their appearances and languages
they are not from any part of Kashmir,” the resident said.

Shahid said he believed that militants are planning to sabotage ongoing peace negotiations between India and Pakistan.

“They have set up camps in the region and many are crossing the border… This is the start of another proxy war,” he said.

Following a meeting between Pakistan prime minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and his Indian counterpart Manmohan Singh last month, the Foreign Ministers of the two countries recently agreed to meet in Islamabad on July 15 to nudge the peace process forward.

Shahid’s comments were supported by Jammu and Kashmir
National Liberation Front leader Shaukat Maqbool Bhat. “The
fighters are there and they are regularly crossing into
India,” Bhat said.

“The local people are very scared ” they believe the (militant) crossings are going to restart artillery exchanges between the Pakistani and Indian armies,” Bhat said.

Indian and Pakistani troops regularly fought artillery duels and exchanged small arms fire till a ceasefire was put in place along the LoC in November 2003.

From 1988, militants aided by Pakistan’s security forces and intelligence agencies waged a guerrilla campaign in Jammu and Kashmir. Their activities were curtailed during the rule of former President Pervez Musharraf, who quit in August 2008.

The BBC quoted unnamed officials as saying that jehadi activities had recommenced across the LoC in recent weeks. It also quoted its correspondents as saying that the renewed militant activity is bound to be of concern to India, especially when Delhi and Islamabad almost came to war when militants “accused by India of being Pakistani-based” attacked the Indian parliament in December 2001.

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Dear Uncle,

Hamar comment hat-ta diya… tch tch…

cheers

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@Vinod Sharma & others
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Hamid Mir and Pak Taleban.
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Hamid Mir is the pro-ISI, army face in the Pak media, who is most famous for his anti Hindu/Kafir, ant-Jews, USA tirades on Pak TV.

Khalid Khawaja, an ex-ISI agent, who had developed differences with Hamid Mir, was recently murdered by a section of Taleban in Pakistan. This tape, now being played in Pak , shows how deeply Hamid Mir is involved with terrorists.

Anyone who follows Pak affairs must hear this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooch6Pg1Udk

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Continuing on the same topic , Hamid Mir, here is a more detailed background of this episode.

http://cafepyala.blogspot.com/

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I love prateik.he so innocent.god bless him n gve him success ameen.xx

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Wonderful This is good comparison between the India vs western fashion wears. According to me India fashion is the best.

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private sector is primarily driven by profits….. one cannot force them to have impose employee reservations based on caste…… A pvt sector would just care about actual ability of its potential employee rather than the caste and creed he belongs to….. if you really want to empower all sections you got to do away with reservations …… Ensure that primary education is made compulsory and a quality education is imparted to all sections of society….. Make them equally capable and let them free to compete with each other…..

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Yeah I’m thinking of common man from last 65 years ..and that’s all we did “thinking” – RG

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He can start by empowering a promising guy from a backward community to be the CEO of the county..a certain Mr. Narendra Modi. How bout that?

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Does he own a mantra or similar to Namo Mantra, common the guy is too naive to even find his brain at the right place..

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the mantra for success of any industry any here in the world had been the workers ability to perform to the best as per accepted company’s standards and as per if a person belongs to any lower class or minority such as scheduled class or backward class or belonging to a minority such as muslim .

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if the rahul wants to give away jobs because a person belongs to the minority or a lower class .then he would be better off giving away some of the money his mother has looted thru various scams to the tune of $900,000 crores and increasing daily,instead of asking industry to give the jobs away whether or not a person is qualified to do it or not.

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Spin away…
Rahul speech received a lukewarm reception because it was anti-pvt sector? Or pointed out non-inclusive nature of pvt sector policies?
It received a lukewarm response because it showed up an immature young man for what he is. It was a speech full of “huh” and “duh” moments.

Sample these:

- “if you can do business in India, you can do so on the moon”- Who takes credit, Mr Gandhi?

- China’s development/ social sector progress got dismissed, rather arrogantly- “dragon”/ “simplistic place”/ lack of accountability- witness this driver who ran over pedestrians and absconded. Point??

- Beehive – again, what was the point? That we all slog and the Queen bee grows rich?

Anyway,

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There really, is no differential between policies of the two. And that is primarily because both seem to be puppets of the same corporates that increasingly control this nation. Its big money all over.

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seriously! modi is mms of the 1990’s

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Below are two contrasts between Gujarat Model of Modi and Khangrace Model of MMS:

1. In April 2013, Surat in Gujarat was judged India’s best city. The parameters for this included, according to a report in The Times of India, “mobility, water
supply network, cleanliness, public amenities, pollution control, greenery,
safety and easy processes of getting work done at the corporation.”

2. Delhi is declared most unsafe city for women and known as R@pe capital in the world for the last 3 years. The child malnourishment has reached at an alarming high level of 52% according to the CAG report tabled on March 2013. The CM of WB was assulated in day light last week right in front of Planning commission building.

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Its a misleading news, how can one compare Modi with leader of corrupt, scandlous, Scamster, corrupt, Looter, Traitor govt.

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Another stark difference is not having two+ centers of power for an elected head of the state who has taken the oath of office and one Super PM without any accountability and press conferences/interviews.

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MODI – NAA MEIN KHATAA HOON NAA KHANE DOONGA

MMS – LOOTO KHAO BACHE TAU SWISS BANK BHARAO

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MODI – NAA MEIN KHATAA HOON NAA KHANE DOONGA

MMS – LOOTO KHAO BACHE TAU SWISS BANK BHARAO

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Notice the new trend of Paid news – Since Rahul baba is shit scared of fighting against Modi -Papu now wants to rule using Shameless MMS as dummy with no accountability as that that way he can protect his Billions of loot and now HT is paid to start a new spin to compare Modi with MMS and suggest both are same.

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Notice the new trend of Paid news – Since Rahul baba is shit scared of fighting against Modi -Papu now wants to rule using Shameless MMS as dummy with no accountability as that that way he can protect his Billions of loot and now HT is paid to start a new spin to compare Modi with MMS and suggest both are same.

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This is not a surprising conclusion. Regardless of the political party that is in power, certain factors like the bureaucracy, and the corporations that actually run the country remains essentially unaffected. Since it is in their (and the politicos) best interest to ensure maximum profitable exploitation of resources, questions like ethics, inclusive growth, and societal growth don’t really come into the picture, except as superficial hogwash designed to dupe the voting masses come election time. This fact is one of the core, unavoidable problems with Indian democracy as it now stands. No one is power is interested in changing a repressive and exploitative status quo because it goes against their own beneficial interest. Communalism, vote-bank politics, issues of caste, etc. are all incorporated into political discourse to disguise this essential fact that everyone in power wants their share of the enormous pie that is India and its natural, economic, and man-power resources. The relationship between India’s people and its governing classes needs to be reoriented fundamentally. A system reset, if you will.

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This is not a surprising conclusion. Regardless of the political party that is in power, certain factors like the bureaucracy, and the corporations that actually run the country remains essentially unaffected. Since it is in their (and the politicos) best interest to ensure maximum profitable exploitation of resources, questions like ethics, inclusive growth, and societal growth don’t really come into the picture, except as superficial hogwash designed to dupe the voting masses come election time. This fact is one of the core, unavoidable problems with Indian democracy as it now stands. No one is power is interested in changing a repressive and exploitative status quo because it goes against their own beneficial interest. Communalism, vote-bank politics, issues of caste, etc. are all incorporated into political discourse to disguise this essential fact that everyone in power wants their share of the enormous pie that is India and its natural, economic, and man-power resources. The relationship between India’s people and its governing classes needs to be reoriented fundamentally. A system reset, if you will.

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That is … if you assume… Manmohan has a model

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@Author, ” Modi had suggested in Kolkata earlier this week that Bihar should take leaf from Gujarat’s development.”

Did you miss the rest of MODI speech where he explained that models differ from one DISTRICT to next and MODIFICATION (not NAMO-fication) would be required for Gujarat Model of develop to meet the local conditions?

Is Bihar from other planet? 33% share of each agriculture, Industry and Service has maximum flexibility to sustain natural calamities such as draughts becasue the state has already developed its own revenue based on indusrty and service sector. Gujarat has its own tax and non-tax revenue around Re 66,000 Crores which are three times larger than Bihar thus Gujarat does not have to go on begging spree every now and then. Priorities can be changed depending on situation as long you have enough funds of your own and share from center. Besides, industrian states contribute huge sums to the central kitty which agriculture base states don’t. The ganga belt (UP, BIHAR AND WB) is and will remain a drag on the growth rate of India unless India adopts “TWO-CHILDREN FAMILY” policy fo reduce the rate of population growth. UP, BIHAR and WB combined are around 400 million and growth cannot match to feed new mouths every year.

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And we would expect our next PM Mr Narendra Modi to not run away from
Interviews when faced with hostile questioning as it happened in the
past. Chaddis supporting him say that the matter is sub-judice and hence
any ’sane’ Chief Minister would refrain from speaking about it. For
these Chaddis, a basic refresher course in English language is being
provided – FREE of cost!!!

And here goes the brilliant interview where Mr. Modi shows his oratory and management skills :
http(colon)//www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=TP1QFcvIg9c .

I hope he is more prepared the next time, once he assumes office and
hopefully gets a visa to the US. If the New York times turns hostile,
please ask him to keep calm and bazinga!!

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All I have to say is that Hindustan Times is owned by Shobhana Bhartia – a Congress MP. Enough said.

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MMS since his school days has only one strategy. Turn in your answer paper blank. Every one fills it the way he wants and feels you are a genius. He is like a blank paper used as a tissue paper by the Madam.

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Both of them are motive same for the Indian economy.They are always encouraged the Large scale industry to develop in the Indian economy.

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