Manmohan Singh weakens Zardari



Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s lament that he has no partner in Pakistan with whom he can set up a negotiating table could have major implications for the credibility of the PPP-led regime. The remarks are an expression of no confidence in President Asif Ali Zardari’s ability to take other power centers along in any peace process with New Delhi. It might sound strange to many. Rulers in Pakistan— both uniformed and civilian— deride India but cannot live without its recognition of their leadership. I remember how bitter Balakh Sher Mazari was when P V Narasimha Rao did not congratulate him on becoming interim PM after Nawaz Sharif’s 1993 dismissal by President Ghulam Ishaq Khan.

Rao’s studied detachment looked prophetic when the Pak Supreme Court reinstated Sharif, declaring Mazari’s brief tenure as unconstitutional. Like his predecessor’s aloofness, Singh’s comment that he wasn’t sure of Zardari’s control over the army must be based on ground reality. Gen. Ashfaq Pervez Kayani remains, as his predecessor Pervez Musharraf, the most powerful arm of the troika that has traditionally governed Pakistan: the president, the prime minister and the army chief.

In the instant case, however, the Army’s supremacy is unquestionable, given the war its fighting against the Taliban in the North West, the exceedingly grave security threats to elected leaders and the kind of governance they are providing to an increasingly restless people. From all accounts, Zardari cuts a tragically comic figure in the Aiwan-e-Sadr. His party colleague and Premier Yusuf Raza Gilani is an average doer, forever struggling to match his limited talents with the role bestowed upon him by destiny.

In power in the key Punjab province, the principal Opposition, the PML (Nawaz) of former PM Nawaz Sharif might not have posed any threat to the PPP dispensation in the National Assembly. But Zardari is grossly weakened by the way the PML (N) scuttled parliamentary endorsement of the national reconciliation ordinance promulgated by Musharraf to provide him and his late wife Benazir indemnity against graft charges. One really wonders whether the Pak President is left with any bargaining powers with either the Army or the PM.

Sharif will disagree. But in seeking to have Zardari out on a limb, he has empowered Gen. Kayani at the expense of the elected regime despite repeated assurances that his first objective was to strengthen democracy by preventing another military takeover in Pakistan. “We would like democracy to succeed in Pakistan but we have to recognize that power today virtually rests with the army,” the Indian PM said in an interview on CNN.

From the present Army leadership, Singh has no expectations of the kind Gen. Musharraf was able to raise, given his limitless clout as President and Army Chief. The Indian Premier wasn’t even sure whether the Pak Army was serious in its war against terrorism.

To buttress the point, Singh repeated to CNN what he had told the Washington Post before leaving for his tour of the US (to meet President Obama) and Port of Spain (to attend the Commonwealth Summit). He claimed Islamabad wanted the US troops out of Afghanistan in order to reclaim political and strategic ground in that country.

But he cautioned the Obama Administration against such capitulation. That eventuality will embolden the Taliban no end for it’ll give them a sense of triumph over two superpowers— the erstwhile Soviet Union having been worsted in Afghanistan some two decades ago in what was the beginning of the Jehad the world’s now contesting.

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  • Sam,

    Can readers point out any treaty or agreement in which pakistan kept its side ?

    For them any agreemtn it is just tactical and short term, which will be diregarded at the earliest.

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    Anil Kumar Reply:

    They get endorsement of that double game from prophet’s sunnah by flashing the incident of traty of hudaiba.. then there is philosphy of Taqiah

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  • Akash

    Vinodji,
    Here is another a s s **** trying to act in an objective manner..

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/columnists/12-like-we-have-islamists-are-there-brahminists-too–bi-06

    Is it necessary to rub salt in our wounds? Why haven’t the terrorists been prosecuted? LeT is still planning attacks. Why aren’t they being stopped? Zardari is a faithful representative of his nation – coward, scheming, duplicitous, and having no sense of honor; and to think, they call themselves “zinda kaum”, surviving on the alms of US and simultaneously abusing them.

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    Nikhil Reply:

    Akash,

    Who is Jawed Naqvi? Does he writes editorials in the Dawn newspaper?

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    Akash Reply:

    He is some jackass who poses as a peace activist.

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    Saarthak Reply:

    Actually Jawed Naqvi is Dawn’s India correspondent based in Delhi, and he is extremely biased from whatever articles I have read by him

  • yash

    DEAR VINODJI,

    HASNT MMS SPOKEN THE OBVIOUS ?

    THANKS,
    YASH.

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    vinod Reply:

    Yes, he has. But prime ministers cannot talk like defence ministers and home ministers. They have to keep all doors ajar.

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  • meena

    Vinod, every post on your blog invokes hatred. Opinions are expressed on topics that are not even related to the post. Look at Akash’s comment….what is it that we cannot control our emotions at the mention of Pakistan. Your blog title indicates that you will write on Pakistan, viewers visit yoiur blog on their own free will, and then get so angry that they forget the theme of the post. Do they all belong to the generation that was affected by partition and its aftermath? Do you ever think about the reasons for violent reactions to your innocous posts. What could it be?

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    Paritosh Reply:

    @meena

    mam, you know what??? people like you are incapable of thinking logically and think like pre-programmed robots(or should i say pre-programmed liberals).after the Kargill war and the brutality against Indian P.O.Ws in Pakistan , death of Indian fishermen in Pakistani prisons under mysterious circumstances, attack on parliament and after 26/11 do you still expect us to remain calm especially when some pro Pakistani or pro indo-pak friendship statement is written over here?? Indians , perhaps will learn only after a hundred 26/11s.

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    vinod Reply:

    Dear Paritosh,
    Is this the way you always talk? You must have some respect for ladies and those elder to you. Reading your posts I have come to think that you are a master of insinuations. I will keep your comments on this blog but respond to them only after you improve your language.

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    Paritosh Reply:

    Vinod ji

    first of all i dont see any mannerlessness or uncivilized trait in my answer. so please dont dictate me how i should be talking to ladies and “elders”. you can use terms like “master of insinuations” very conveniently when you dont answer our questions and when you do, you dont give a logically satisfying answer. if i say something (offensive) beyond the limits of civilized behaviour , i would acknowledge it honestly and apologize, but that would never happen because i always choose my words carefully. you talk about me improving my language, why dont you just improve your own knowledge about Pakistan and get over the nostalgia.

    Akash Reply:

    Vinodji,
    It’s this needless obsession with respect that has done the greatest damage to any sort of meaningful dialogue or discussion. Too many times we are told to shut up because of some dubious reasoning of “yeh tarika nahin hai”.

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    vinod Reply:

    Dear Paritosh,
    I see a compulsive judgemental disorder in your replies. You call others illogical and misinterpret sane advice as diktat. God and good sense alone can help you.

    Akash Reply:

    Vinodji,
    God has long forsaken us. Let’s hope good sense would do the trick, especially on the other side.

    Akash Reply:

    Meena,
    I wish we have nothing to do with a country that can think of nothing else but sending across people like Kasab to kill us. Unless the perpetrators are brought to justice, all these peace talks are useless. We don’t care a damn about Partition or whatever.

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    Nikhil Reply:

    Meena,

    Many commentators let their steam off on blogs such as this one. I’d say, fair enough. It’s better to express anger on the blogs than setting off on a boat through the seas to kill people. I believe many would agree.

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    Sam, Reply:

    Meeena,
    Let us be calm and rational as you say.

    Can you point out any agreement between India and Pakistan, where pakistan kept its side of the agreeement ?

    Please give us a list, if there are more than one..

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  • http://www.hindustantimes.com Sujata Anandan

    Hi Vinod,

    Brilliant piece, as usual. Zardari is a businessman, not a politician and certainly not a statesman, so how can he be expected to do anything for his country? I believe he would have been better off sticking to being Mr Ten Percent!

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    vinod Reply:

    Thanx Sujata. Hope to meet up with you in Mumbai if you are around on December 4-5.

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  • Rajiv

    Vindo Sharmaji,
    There is a fundamental misunderstanding that many writers on Indo-Pak issues suffer from.

    They ignore the facts of the political history of Indian and Pakistan since 1947.
    They ignore that the history of Pakistan, has convincing and beyond a reasonable doubt,
    discredited and rubbished argument that the 2 countries are similar.
    Yet some commentators wallow in a thought process, not supported by reality.

    Pak history of last 60 years is full of
    1. Total subversion of democracy by the military and Intelligence services.
    2. Repeated coups in which elected governments are over thrown by the milatry and its leaders hanged, murdered or
    exiled by the Pak army.
    3. A genocidal program in East Pakistan, that resulted in millions of its own citizens killed.
    4. The world head-quarters of nuclear smuggling.
    5. The world headquarters of various militant and terrorist organizations , many of them treated as stretegic jewels
    of the Islamic state of Pakistan.

    None of the above , have anything to do with India. Pakistan and India are as similar as Haity and USA are. Yes they are
    geographically close to each other. So ?

    Unless the reality of the differences that characterize the 2 states is openly acknowledged and understood, no policy, based on
    self deceit or falsehood will work.

    Mr Manmohan Singh, has displayed a glimpse of honesty when he says that he doesn’t know, whom to talk to in Pakistan, to get the terrorists of Pakistan
    under control. He must go a step further. He must, call on world powers to stop aiding and abetting terrorism, by aiding the
    state of Pakistan, in any shape or form.
    Facts are on his side.

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  • Nikhil

    Vinod,

    Manmohan Singh has not weakened Zardari. MMS has spoken the truth; something which has been admitted by the premiers of influential countries in the media before. I believe it had to be said on CNN because India is constantly coerced to restart the composite dialog with Pakistan. If the Indian premier does not know who is his reliable interlocutor in Pakistan, it’s his duty to let the international community know about his challenge.

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    vinod Reply:

    Nikhil,
    When Musharraf was there, we always said we’d speak to anyone in power in Pakistan for it’s not upon us to decide who’d be there leader. Each time a civilian regime is in place there, we have talked to them knowing fully well that the army pulls the strings from behind: eg Benazir, Nawaz Sharif.
    The short point I’m making is that if the PPP remains in power for another three years, wouldn’t we talk to Zardari or the Pak PM? It’s normally not advisable for top leaders to close options.
    Even Vajpayee talked to Sharif and Musharraf knowing fully well that the latter masterminded Kargil. We must learn to make a distinction between engagement (that is mandatory with neighbours) and a structured dialogue (driven by a quest for sustainable solutions). I hope Manmohan Singh’s reference was to the last mentioned mode when he wondered whom he could talk to in Pakistan?
    We all agree that a regular dialogue with Pakistan will be fruitless unless it shows sincerity in fighting terror.

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    yash Reply:

    We hear reports that US is looking for talks with Taliban and some exit from Afghanistan. So how can we expect Pak to fight Taliban then ? I guess there will be no change in the Paks attitude towards terrorism …….

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    Nikhil Reply:

    Vinod,

    India is constantly asked why it’s not helping the US by restarting the composite dialog with Pakistan immediately. Diplomatic niceties aside, a candid response from Manmohan Singh on CNN was necessary. He did it right. I do not think we should read too much in to it.

    Because we’re geographically stuck with this mess called Pakistan, I’m sure MMS will talk to whoever is appointed as the interlocutor; no matter how powerful or how powerless that person may be in that country.

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  • Rajiv

    Vinod ji

    You say ‘.. engagement that is mandatory with neighbours’.

    No thats not an absolute truth when you deal with a dissolute and vile entity.
    Did engagement prevent Kargil ?
    Did engagement prevent 2 attacks on Indian embassy in Kabul, masterminded by Pak army/ISI ?
    Did engagement prevent numerous terrorist attacks in India , by LeT , JeM militants who are protected by the Pak state ?

    Those questions must be answered honestly. India should have tried engagement and it did. Now it must acknowledge the truth that engagement, with a wilfully deceitful entity, is counter productive as it lends a veneer of status to that entity, which that wilfully deceitful entity exploits.
    In case of Pakistan, engagement invites more vicious conduct by various actors of the Pak state.

    War is not an option. Neither is engagement with a repeatedly proven deceitful entity. Complete isolation and dis-engagement with such an entity can help focus attention on the nature and conduct of that entity.
    .

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    vinod Reply:

    Dear Rajiv,
    Pl understand the geo-strategic realities of this region. India and Pakistan are both nuclear weapon states. They have to have a channel open even in the worst of times to prevent a nuclear war.

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    Sam, Reply:

    India should also have a “convert operations channel open”
    .
    What India is lacking is the capability to harm pakistan in that way.
    Without that channel it is always on the “receiving end “.

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    Rajiv Reply:

    Vindji and Sam,
    I really thing, Pak would actually like India to play the dirty game it plays. There is a English proverb, ‘a pig likes to drag you down to its level and then over power you.’

    India, very wisely, has desisted from the temptation to retaliate in covert operations. Its like getting your hand dirty to kill a rat. Nothing good will come of it and I hope and pray that India does not engage in any covert retaliatory action. Collecting intelligence , is a different matter.

    So , I think the best option for India is to desist from any engagement with Pak. Engagement , as given by facts of past 8-10 years, has only emboldened Pak, because the Pak army and ISI are wilfully dishonest.

    Regarding, Pak’s nuclear capability, it needs to be treated with the same scorn and indifference that Pak deserves. We cannot control how Pak behaves. India is neither ever going to attack any country or use nuclear weapons first. India should just strenthen its defense and massive second strike capabilities. We are not in control of Pak actions and should stay away from foolishly thinking that we can influence them.

    However, I am certain of one thing. Pak’s infantile obsession with Kashmir, caused it to persue policies , that led to Pak to lose 1/2 the country.

    Pak continues with that obsession and now has added an additional obsession with nuclear weapons. It somehow thinks, nuclear weapons are jewels of the Pak state and is infinitely obsessed about it. I think its this Pak obsession with its nuclear weapons that will contribute in some way to further dissolution of Jinnah’s Islamic state of Pakistan.

    Paritosh Reply:

    @vinod ji

    “only God and good sense can help you”

    well Mr Vinod, this is something that applies to you.
    and yes, you may be (or surely are) suffering from illogical judgemental disorder

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    vinod Reply:

    Dear Paritosh,
    Don’t plagiarise. Try being funny. But that’s beyond you — or that’s what I make out from your barbs in response to good-natured jibes.

  • (Dr.) B.N.Anand

    Dear Vinod Sharma ji
    “Benign Neglect” is the best approach to Pakistan. That is what our former HC to Pakistan says on a talk show on a tv channel. I totally endorse that view. Hope Sir, you will also give a thought to this approach. While adopting this approach, we should care to keep our powder dry lest we are caught on the wrong foot. That is the only recipe of lasting business like and straightforward relations with our neighbour.
    Regards
    (Dr.) B.N.anand

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  • http://www.rediff.com Paritosh

    @vinod ji

    well if its really humor, then ok.

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  • http://lughole.net Saarthak

    It seems the tide is turning in Pakistan. I read 3 articles in DAWN today – all of which talked about the importance of peace with India and how its important for Pakistan to prosecute the Mumbai attackers. In fact, this one by Ayesha Siddiqa is a jewel:

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/columnists/ayesha-siddiqa-no-forward-movement-719

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    Rajiv Reply:

    @Saarthak,
    You would find many columnists in Dawn, that advocate peace with India. In Pak they amount to nothing. Read the nation.com.pk, Jang etc and you will see how the Pak Government itself, circulates utter lies against India to its populace, on a daily basis.
    Pak interior minister Mr Malik, Pak foreign minister Qureshi, regularly peddle gutter lies from accusing India to training Taleban in Swat, Waziristan etc.

    Judge Pak by how it handles Let/JuD ( Jamaat ul Dawa ) chief. UN has banned Let/JuD. Pak government claimed it too has done so. However, when the case against Mt Saeed came before court, Pak givernment revealed that it had never issued a notification banning JuD !

    These guys are wilfully dishonet to the core and in any engagement with Pak will result in disappointment at best .

    I think everyone here, shares Mr Vinod Sharma’s desire for promoting the peace constituency in Pak. But its equally important that we dispassionately recognize the reality of Pak army and ISI.
    Mr Zardari, comes accross as a saint as compared to Pak PM Gilani ( who is everyday collecting so called evidence against India ) , Mr Malik and Quereshi. If these so called civilian leaders, propogandize against India in Pak media with absolute lies, there is no scope for any improvement in Pak conduct as far as Pak state’s policy of using terrorism against India.

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  • http://Instablogs.com Anil Maheshwari

    Mr. Sharma, Eid Mubarak

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    vijay kumar Reply:

    I have a great idea. We Indians should directly talk to the people of Baluchistan. They too are suffering form the evil violent ideology of Paadistan and I think do not want to be part of the jehadi- herion selling nexus which more or less rules Paadistan.

    Similarly the mohajirs of Pakistan are disillusioned with the concept of suicide bombers and the young kids being blown up for money after a fake ideolgy is created in the name of islam. No ideology and religion can ask its children or adults to blow themselves to bits and I am sure Islam does not. It is just a few moronic evil people in the ISI and the Pak army which are brainwashing innocents to kill and kill more, instead of playing cricket.

    Why don’t we run an anti suicide bombing brainwashing school.

    I propose the name of Shri Vinod Sharma to be the school headmaster of such an enterprise as well as our peace delegate to Baluchistan and mohajirstan. Love and cheers to all

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  • Usman Chaudhry

    Greetings and Happy Eid to fellow bloggers

    It comes to no surprise that MMS address will create troubles for Mr Zardari. Nothing much in Commonwealth summit as well.

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  • Akash

    Vinodji,
    Here is a real gem for you:
    “”Directly inside the hall voices resound and this was what was said,” Dutt said, adding, “No it was not a negotiation…I think my office remembered the objective that was laid (not to negotiate)…but the reply was a string of abuses.” ”

    I am saddened by these terrorists’ handler who didn’t teach them any manner of courtsey and civility.

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    Rajiv Reply:

    This blog by Mr Vivond Sharma is dedicated to the promotion of so called ‘peace constituency’ on Indo-Pak affairs. So any criticism of Mr Sharma should be civil and restricted to his views and not personal. Its a privelege to be able to have out views expressed as a response to Mr Sharma blog.

    Mr Sharma, has been to Pak and interacted with a wider section of Pak policy makers or columnists there. So my question to Mr Sharma is

    @Mr Vinod Sharmaji

    1. Do you believe that Pak army and its intelligence/nefarious/criminal activities wing the ISI , do really want peace with India ?

    Looking forward to an un-ambigous answer.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Mr.Sharma is still celebrating Bakr-Eid. May be he is chomping on Cow meat with his mullah friends.
    After all he is a secularist.

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    vinod Reply:

    Dear Rajeev,
    I am really pained by your insults. Have some bheja fry of whatever animal you like to acquire some brains.

    vinod Reply:

    Dear Rajiv,
    Pl excuse this belated response. I think some elements among them could be engaged with.

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  • Usman Chaudhry

    I guess your brain is in your foot.

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  • vijay kumar

    Dear Usman,

    Greetings for Eid! I apoligize that an idiot like Paritosh exists in India….

    Enjoy yourself here.

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    Usman Chaudhry Reply:

    Thank You! Vijay. Appreciate your goodwill gesture :)

    I think there is hope and ray of friendship between the two…. wo kehtay hain … chingari aabhee bujhee nahee… I’ve pure believe that the two coexist together in peace. I’m working on my part in my home country and thanks for your part.

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  • vijay kumar

    Dear Paritosh,

    You are not normal. Get the hate out of your head. Ultimately Hindus and Muslims of India have to live together.

    We may be under attack by the evil jehadis of Pakistan, but it does not mean that you insult or hurt religious feelings of Muslims who have nothing to do with ejhadis and murderers.

    This Diwali, light a bomb and sit on it,

    With love and regards,

    Vijay

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    Paritosh Reply:

    @vijay kumar

    what is your definition of being normal?? well i’ll tell you what are the definitions of being normal and abnormal for a “liberal”

    normal
    1-ignore the fact that most of communal problems in India are caused by Muslims
    2-Hindu bashing
    3-lick Muslim arse to flaunt your “secular” or say “liberal” attitude.
    4-make double standard statements, such as “India-Pakistan can be good friends”

    i suggest, this diwali tie yourself to a rocket and fly by it to Pakistan ( celebrate a p@kee Diwali over there :) )

    abnormal
    1-the one who speaks truth about communal problems
    2-the one who accepts indo-pak reality the way it is.
    3- the one who stands for his culture/religion (who for sure is not any arse licker like you
    )

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  • http://www.rediff.com Paritosh

    @Usman

    its in my head dear p@kee friend (unlike you , who has it in his bums)

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    Usman Chaudhry Reply:

    Stop falling in the same ditch repeatedly. Don’t make me come down to proof whether you are insane or normal. Eventually all fingures point at you.

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    Paritosh Reply:

    say whatever you want. its actually me who is really falling down to your level. a very popular saying is there that i actually forgot. it goes as follows “when the pig wants to fight with you, it drags you into the mud”. no way i am gonna interact with you.

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    Usman Chaudhry Reply:

    Haaaa!!! so the pig is actually wishing greetings, eid and diwali by dragging in mud. Good, very good!! I repeat what other say about you “Only God and common sense can help you”.

  • Rajiv

    Equating Pakistan with Muslims is wrong. As simple as that.

    Even though, India is a secular state in an un-secular surrounding, with a Muslims population equal to that of Pakistan, I am always surprised as how overwhelming number of Pakistanis like to label India as a ‘Hindu state’. India is secular by choice , made easy by the fact that the Hindu religion preaches equality and tolerance of other religions.

    @Vijay Kumar
    So I would say to Vijay Kumar, that your rightful dislike of the actions of the state of Pakistan, should not automatically translate to hate for Muslims. Such a thinking is wrong and unfair in my opinion.
    India will prosper as a democratic state where religion is a matter of personal freedom and state plays no role. If we have politicians that pander to votes based on religion, we need to fix that. Thats the evel, not the religions.

    Hope we all can maintain civility and respect for others here, without tempering our strong views.

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    Rajiv Reply:

    Sorry, I intended my comments at Paritosh and Rajeev and not at Vijay Kumar in my previous posting.

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    Paritosh Reply:

    @Rajiv

    i am not against those Indian Muslims who want to live in an India that is secular in the true sense. but even then we cannot deny the very fact that many Muslims in India , act as though if they are living in an Islamic republic. they want travel concessions and subsidies for Hajj, special reservations, they howl if you oppose the Madrassas, and moreover they are not ready to acknowledge that its only because of their stubborn attitude that they arent progressing.

    backwardness and illiteracy can also be cited as the reasons for leaning towards more extremist way of thinking. they really need an idol, a role model from their own community to get inspired and progress.

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    Sam, Reply:

    You can call for “Death to Islam” as it is a political idealogy (with very little spiritual part).
    But do not hate muslims in India or Pakistan.

    Remember more than 90% of muslims in India/pak are Hindu converts.
    Think of a way to invite them back to their forefathers religion and understand that they converted under violence or for jobs under muslim thugs..

    S Singh Reply:

    @pritosh

    Hajsunbsidy , in fact, was not asked by Muslims; but “imposed” on them by congress govt during the 70’s oil price hike. Obviously, now, no government will remove it because they will lose votes. However, in justification to some Muslim groups, they have demanded that the subsidy be stopped.

    You r right about those stupid madrasas. The sooner they clsoe it down better for them. In fact, it is in India’s welfare and progress that the madrasas be shut down. Lok at PAkistan..these MAdrasa guys are cerating all the problem there

    Rajeev Reply:

    I am specifically talking about pakistani muslims.
    I’d suggest that you read my comments in context.
    Thanks

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  • Usman Chaudhry

    Rajeev,

    Sorry on that part. The truth is vast muslim majority in Pakistan might not be aware of when the festival of Diwali falls in calender and equally less would be involved in an Indian blog. Just take example of this blog where a single **** (me) is there posting comments and not anyone else. That is individual interest i can’t say much about that. You let me know the date … I’ll shoot comment, email, post card .. whatever to any Hindu, Sikh or Jain

    Anyway I wish belated Happy Diwali to you and others.

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    Sam, Reply:

    How would you take “Happy Christmas” if i say that to Muslims in Pakistan ?

    Would you take it in a good way or not ?

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    Usman Chaudhry Reply:

    Certainly not a wise call. I see what you are aiming at. If my Eid greetings are there and hurting feelings of fellow non-muslims I take my words back.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    Usman,
    This is not the first time I am interacting with Pakistani.
    I have been doing so since 1995 and beleive me pakistanis do know what is diwali and when it occurs but their hatred for hindus is supreme and they find it SHIRK to wish non-muslims.

    You may be an exception but most of your countrymen are fanatics (evenif educated).

    I remember muslim lady commenting “Dekho Hindu musalmaan ko kis tarah maar rahe hai”.

    This comment was not in ref. to Babri etc. but to a scene in Sholay where Dharmendra (Veeru) was bashing up Amjad Khan (Gabbar).

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    Usman Chaudhry Reply:

    lol :) ) at Gabbar. It sounds more funny after reading first time. Cant believe if the intentions of the lady was true and real.

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    Hello Mr. Usman Chaudhry

    If what Mr. Rajeev has mentioned is true, and I have no reason not to believe him, I wonder your reply depicts the sort of the current problem with the people of Pakistan. They are living in self denial, even refusing to believe that the terorists acts currently in Pakistan can not be committed by a Muslim. After all, what we witnessed in Iraq. The Muslims were killing Muslims and there it can not be Raw or any other Indian agency. So, if to-day such a thing is happening in Pakistan, the phenomenon remains the same. The Pakistan govt. was also living in self denial when they initially refused to believe that Kasab was indeed a Pakistani and a LeT recruited terrorist until it was proved by even the Pakistan media that he indeed is a citizen of Pakistan. The Pakistan govt. even refused to accept the bodies of the Pakistan terrorists killed during Mumbai carnage.So the innocent looking remark by the worthy lady can not be seen out of context seeing the mindset of the people of your country.
    You may be an exceptionally sophisticated and liberal muslim and we do not have a problem with a person of your thinking. But the majority of the people in your country are indeed biased not only against our country but Hindu religion.
    Regards
    Yours Sincerely
    (Dr.) B.N.Anand

    Sam, Reply:

    Dr Anand,
    You could be in denial for your statements of

    “The Pakistan govt. was also living in self denial when they initially refused to believe that Kasab was indeed a Pakistani”

    I am sure pakistan govt very well knows that Kasab is indeed a pakistani and probably even trained by some wing of their govt.

    They are only trying to cover their tracks, by denying that kasab is a pakistani.

    So please come out of your denial first.
    ( hope this received in a friendly way by you)

    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    Hello Mr. sam

    Thanks for your comments. Please rest assured, I will never live in self denial as for as our relations with Pakistan are concerned. On the other hand,I feel sorry for some of our columnists who still advocate for friendly relations with our neighbour even after our country has been the victim of Parliament attack, Kargil war and Mumbai carnage. These three happenings should go down as defining events in our history for our rulers to formate our relations with our neighbour afresh which are based on facts rather than on emotions.
    Please feel free to comment in any way you like. I shall always take them in a positive way.
    Regards
    (Dr.) B.N.Anand

  • http://www.rediff.com Paritosh

    @S Singh

    during the 70’s oil price hike by the Arab nations India found it difficult to manage. perhaps to make the Arabs happy they must have taken the step, so that India may get a little relief. but if Muslims are really so concerned about cancelling the Hajj subsidies, why dont they come out in a single strong voice against it. any ways Congress has really made the communal situation in India more perilous because of its pro-Muslim policies. by the way thanks to comment.

    Vinod ji
    you have deleted my Hindu conversion comment for no reason. it only shows that you cant face the truth.

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    Paritosh Reply:

    @Usman

    you got me wrong fellow friend. everyone knows that only p@kees are pigs (no wonder why Pakistan is also called Porkistan :) ). so dear piggy friend, here’s what i suggest, go and play in the slush/mud instead of wasting your time on the net.

    @vijay
    “I apoligize that an idiot like Paritosh exists in India….”

    its lamentable that incredible morons like you live in my nation that do the foot licking service for Pakistan

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    vinod Reply:

    Dear Paritosh,
    I don’t delete anything that appears on this blog. Your comments I want preserved all the more for they so candidly picture your unsparingly hostile intellectual terrain.

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  • vijay Kumar

    Dear Paritosh,

    Seems that you are still a dud. Shouting like this wont make a difference. If you have the guts, join the NSG or the army commandoes to take on the evil jehadis.

    But before you do that, remember the land you have to defend is India. Where we are setting an example to the world on what secularism should be; where our religion is important to many of us, including a die hard Hindu like me, but we need to remember that we have to respect the other persons right to be different and have a different religion.

    Today only secular countries have a chance to survive; countries which try to define themselves on religion end up fighting amongst themselves like Pakisitan is doing now. In pakistan the big fight on is on who is a better Muslim and they all kill each other. The temporary victor says he is the true Muslim, ( as Baitullah did some time before, then fazullalh does now and maybe another Mullah will do tomorrow) and this violent victor keeps killing his opponent in the name of religion.

    This is all a big joke, almost a black comedy.

    But we should be careful we do not fall victim to the “Pakistani model of governance.” In India, we should respect and love our Muslims, hindus, Christians, buddhists… love all religions and love our country.

    If a reasonable person like Usman comes to this blog, at least let him know what we do not like about Pakistan, so that he can pass the message in his homeland, rather than insulting his relgion.

    Otherwise Paritosh, I can only say that you would end up copying the evil and vile jehadis.

    Bye, and try to smile….

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    Paritosh Reply:

    @vijay kumar

    as i mentioned earlier, i again say that i am not against secularism and Muslims of India. even i am a true Hindu but not a hardcore fundamentalist as you think i am. the opinions and posts that i have posted are not “shouting” or any kind of quarrel but only retaliation to your insulting remarks against me. though i am not in NSG or the army but atleast i am learning as well as instructing Karate and tough training to students that can also help in terror situations.

    i am totally against the idea of a theocratic nation state , but i detest the kind of secularism that we practice in India. it should be a true secularism. even i would like to see all communities living in peace.
    and one more thing. a p@kee is p@kee. no matter how “reasonable” he projects himself.

    thank you

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    Sam, Reply:

    @Paritosh,
    Can you put your energy into explaining to Muslims in india that they are welcome to fore fathers religions.
    After all 90% of them converted under sword or to make a living under islamic invaders or to escape jizya..

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    Paritosh Reply:

    Sam

    i completely agree with you in this case. however its totally futile to tell them the truth, for the poison of Islam has gone so deep that they would refuse to budge

    Sam, Reply:

    a journey of thousand miles begins with one step at a time.
    it will take generations or several decades for anything to happen.
    please do not expect anything will come out of the discussions immediately…

    but remember the glacier is melting and just like several idealogies in past (like communism, nazi, ..) they will collapse after sustained efforts.

    political islam is finished in my opinion.
    the process for its demise is already set in motion, even though it is not apparent at the surface..

  • Rajiv

    I agree with Vijay Kumar’s post. When a state espouses a religion, the citizens immediately lose personal freedom of thought.

    Pakistan state is a good example to India , to learn what happens when
    1. The state and religion become one.
    2. State sponsored false propoganda, exacts a heavy price on the state that does it.

    I believe in friendship with Pakistan, that is based on transparency and honesty. India should not paper over the differences that characterize the 2 states. What I detest is when so called the peace constituency try to allege that Secular, democratic, constitutionally pluralistic India is somehow similar to constitutionally Islamic state of Pakistan where the entire state is subservient to its army and Intelligence services.

    I would like bloggers like Mr Sharma, to acknowledge this simple truth.

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    Sam, Reply:

    @rajiv,
    why don’t you write some articles that “somehow india and pakistan are equal -equal”
    It is intellectually blind to ascribe moral equivalency.

    please tell them historically how people assigned moral equivalency to communists (Soviet Union) and free societies (USA) ..
    they used to blame all “evil capitalists” and how communists are going to save the world.

    Please point out some historicial articles on these type of scenarios and later what happened.

    Please project the trajectories of secular vs religious states (in the long run)..

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    Sam, Reply:

    typo..
    why don’t you write some articles criticizing that “somehow india and pakistan are equal -equal”

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  • yash

    Usman,

    Infact many Indians fails to understand how LeT can be held responsible for 26/11 by the Pak government and not the founder of LeT(Hafeez Sayeed).

    If Pak government stops differentiating between the terrorits and treats all of them equally then you will be able to see the overwhelming goodwill from India.

    Thanks,
    Yash

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    Sam, Reply:

    is pakistan going to pay compensation for the crimes committed by its govt wing (LeT) ?

    until that, why should india show good will ?

    Did pakistanis pay reparations for the Bengali genocide they did ?

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    Sam, Reply:

    Look at todays news.
    How many ex-army people from **** are involved in mumbai massacre in 2008.

    are they just doing this freelance work or getting funded by **** govt ?

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    Sam, Reply:

    look at ex-army men from pakistan involved in these.
    isnt the pakis govt funding them ? or they are just free lance terrorists ?

    Usman Chaudhry Reply:

    Yash,

    I agree with you. It is difficult for Indians to understand whether Hafiz will be put to justice. Much sense of responsibility is required especially on Pakistani side to bring those behind to justice.

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    vijay kumar Reply:

    Dear Usman,

    I know you are a liberal compared to most of your countrymen. But I guess to get the true picture you really have to take off the prejudiced glasses and accept that your country has become the epicentre and cause of most terrorism in the world.

    Ask yourself why Pakistanis keep blaming the entire world for their plight, yet do nothing about the assembly line of suicide bombers coming out of the madrassas and the jehad factories.

    I am an honest well wisher of a person like you and feel that you should enlighten to your countrymen and tell them that they are idiots. Somehwere they sould reform or soon the world will get together to dismantle Pakistan.

    If India is known in the world for IT, meaning information technology, For Pakistan IT only means INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM. The confessions of Ajmal Kasab shows that for him to kill was motivated by getting money for his father and then reaching jannat while killing Indians.

    Is’nt there something sick in the Pakistani nation where fathers would want their sons blown up just to get five lakhs; don’t Pakistani mothers ever cry when they see their own children, their organs and eyes being smashed to smithereens… or is the five lakhs they get for producing a suicide bomber too huge an amount?

    What love and respect would Pakistanis have for Non Muslims — Christians, Jews or HIndus like me? Can’t think of a single good act Pakistan has done for a non Mulims. Forget this, the jehadis and the religious brigade which now controls most of Pakistan is even willing to kill all liberal Muslims; I saw a BBC report which showed that even for a small transgression like rolling up pajamas, a school teacher was killed in Peshawar,

    So unless Pakistanis are willing to confront the evil inside, there is no reason, anybody can like or be friends with a Pakistani.

    Sleeping with the Americans can get you a few droplets of aid, but for survival you need an ideology of democracy and secularism which India has.

    I wish you the best. Maybe a thousand people like can start a chain of freeing Pakistanis from a brainwashed mindset.

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    Sam, Reply:

    Muslims have to to liberated from Islam.

    They are oppressed under a rigid and abusive idealogy

    These issues are nothing to do with Pakistan, and they have everything to do with religious idealogy

    Usman Chaudhry Reply:

    Dear Vijay,

    I really have to argue and fight with every other person on this blog. For the sake of argument I’ll accept your response and like to preach/teach religious tolerence within my community and country. However, these suicidal bomber don’t even make up 1% of the country population where the impression is that the whole lot is bent upon doing that. How and what made them so (brain washing) is a full scale chapter. Something that would take more then writing. I’m not pardoning myself or fellow intelligence agency (ISI) for the mess in Pakistan.

    Wish you health and success.

    Salam,
    Usman

  • Rajiv

    David Headly alia Gilani , was in contact with retired major in the Pakistani military Abdur Rehman Hashim Syed , who was also charged with conspiracy . The money to 2 Pakistanis, arrested in Italy, to set up communication with the 26/11 attackers was also reportedly sent by this Pak military man. This guy is only recently so called ‘retired’ and was in active service recently.

    The point is, LeT acts as the terrorism arm of the Pak state, supervized by the army and ISI. Thats why , LeT founder and terrorist master-mind Mr Saeed , is not being prosecuted by the Pak state and is treated as its ’stretegic asset’.

    The complicity of the Pak army in acts of terrorism, must be acknowledged by all including those that seek to push it under the carpet under the most false, heinous and criminal assertion that India and Pak are similar states. Nothing, absolutely nothing , can be more insidious in persuit of bringing justice to Pak terrorists and holding the Pak army directly accountable for terrorist acts.

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  • Usman Chaudhry

    Greetings Dr Anand,

    My response to Rajeev’s reply was not a misbelief or blind eye but rather irony in words that how come the lady can jump to the conclusion that the film characters were actually portraying hindu-muslim fight. That was a joke of the day for me. However, I agree with you in the bigger context that living in self deniel will not bring any real fruit. Unfortunately incidents of Kargil and 1971 civil war of East Pakistan and later with India were kept away from people. Government should reveal truth in these matters and learn from its mistakes.

    As time has progressed 26/11 incident leaves behind many questions un answered. Surprisingly, India sent out its first evidence in Marathi or Gujrati language!! although nothing to do much but seems unwise … even more I ask how can someone cross all the sea water from Sindh to Mumbai without even catching the eye of Indian navy or coast guard where every other day many fishermen are caught and put to jail. Anyway, for the sake of argument I leave this to time to solve this complex issue. If the evil doers are from Pakistan then government must deal it with iron hands and bring those to justice

    Iraq is a separate story. Even under Saddam Hussain’s military dictatorship was the situation not worse then it is now. I remember in 2003 very well when Colin Powell displayed witnesses and demonstrated weapons of mass destruction in UN Security Council. UN sent a special team to Iraq for investigation not once but thrice and every time no evidence was found. The head of team Dr Kelly was eventually mysteriously assassinated in London. No one questioned this and US went on war in Iraq and years later came out with nothing and blamed intelligence mistake. Eventually, whole Al-Qaeda thing and WMD is down the drain and no one questions it anymore. Funny isn’t it? For the violence in Iraq I just cant go penning down all the aspects that it is actually muslim fighting with muslim rather leave that on anyone else to further study the materials not by any muslim but rather the very civil/defense analysts of US and the crimes commited by Black Water.

    For Pakistan, as of today at this very moment there are 17 anti Pakistan elements working to create hell in Pakistan. Won’t balme all to RAW but would equally blame Pakistan itself for the situation it is in now.

    Eventually, peace is the only way the two can live in harmony. On Pakistan part it has to go a long way towards setting things right on track.

    Regards,
    Usman

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    Paritosh Reply:

    Usman

    As a true Pakistani you have said it very conveniently that , that 26/11 is a complicated topic. you talk about Pakistanis living in denial , but yourself are no different from rest of your countrymen. further more , it is a universal truth that the Pakistan government was the perpetrator behind the attack. usually pro-indo-pak friendship kind of people often say that there is a huge difference between the Pakistan govt and the Pakistani people in general. but the truth is that all the p@kees are the same. be it the Pakistani Taliban , other Islamic terror outfits , ISI , Pakistani govt and the opposition parties or the people in general , Pakistan is India’s true blue enemy.

    and yes , i would say only one thing about the recent blasts in Pakistan that killed so many people
    the Mc Donald’s tag line “I’m lovin it”

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    Sam, Reply:

    People like Usman could be ISI agents ..
    just to confuse or soften up indians, so that they will be caught unaware of another attack..

    Remember Kargil.
    Vajpayee goes to Lahore,
    there was euphoria in india about good times to come.
    ISI and others were cooking up schemes to backstab india.
    within months they attack india..

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    Usman Chaudhry Reply:

    :) It is far from reality I’m actually an ISI agent. Any agent would more be involved in ground survellience rather than on blogs.

    “within months they attack india..”

    It wasn’t India rather Indian control Kashmir. Something which is a disputed territory under UN Charter and not strictly defined as International boundry but rather as line of control. Any disputed territory can be a claim of right of more than one.

    How about the Siachen assclation of 1984? Where India send out its troops first ahead? Any views.

    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    Hello Sam
    I feel the same pain when I recall that while Vajpayee ji was in Lahore, the Kargil attack was being planned. Th add further insult, Mr. Nawaz Sharief pretended later that he knew nothing of Kargil at that time. Well, that has been the tradition with Muslims world of back stabbing their guests. That is why I always feel that Kargil was one of three (The other two being the Parliament attack and the Mumbai carnage) defining events in our history to guide us for reformulating our stretegy vis-a-via Pakistan lest we are again made to look stupid in our own eyes. We should not come under any pressure either from the international community or Pakistan leadership to resume the composite dialogue with our neighbour. I have already mentioned in my earlier response that we should adopt ‘Benign neglect ‘ as a matter of state policy while dealing with our neighbour. It is very heartening that at long last, the Indian High commission in Pakistan has delayed the visas of Pakistani cricketers who were scheduled to play in IPL 3. Wish we would learn that we shall be able to do away with Pakistani sportsmen when it comes to safgeguard our national honour. The Pakistan people can not be allowed tomake money from our country while they bleed us at the same time. Let every one in Pakistan know that until they change their mindset about our country, it is not going to be same again.
    (Dr.) B.N.Anand

    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    Hello Mr. Usman Chaudhry
    I appreciate your response. But I must say at the same time that you are not willing to accept my view that after all Muslims are killing Muslims in Iraq. O.K. For a while I understand your dilemma as it will be difficult for you to defend then that Islam does not teach so. But during the Iran-Iraq war, again muslims were killing muslims and this war went for many years. Surely thousands of muslims from one side would have killed thousands of muslims on the other side.But killing co-religious people is not limited to muslims alone. See how many millions of christians were killed in WWI and WW II when christians were killing christians. So you will be living in a sort of self denial for yourself if you believe that Muslims cannot kill Muslims according to Islam and that all the terrorists acts being perpetrated in Pakistan these days are in fact the acts of foreign agents.
    We still feel that Parliament attack in our country by by LeT was the most serious. Luckily all the terrorists were killed before any one of them could enter the Parliament hall, where all our leaders were present, including our Prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee. Would any of the tterrorist have spared any of our leaders? We must thank Almighty that the whole continent has been spared from that catastrophe. So it is very hard to forget the misfortune which would have befelled our Nation at that time.
    You seem to be an enlightened person, so it is possible to discuss these factors which stand in the psychology of every Indian and do not enthuse us for resuming the dialogue process with your country. Hopefully, the mindset of your countrymen will change for real some time. We shall wait for that time to come.
    Thanks and with regards
    (Dr.) B.N.Anand

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    Usman Chaudhry Reply:

    Adaab arz hai Dr Sahab,

    Wont deny your argument, rahter then painting it through the brush of religion it would be more meaningful to say “its the ideology that fights against the ideology”. Something more meaningful. This way I suppose incidents in Bihar or Nagaland or any other area of seven sisters where cast issues, Maoists rebels or Nexalites are fighting, I can quote its the hindu killing the hindu.

    I respect your age and experience and its even less then the half where I stand. One more incident I recalled and would like to state here … something that you might be aware of but never came out of the mouth of any indian. It goes like this.

    In the wake of 2004-5 (not sure about the exact year) an Indian Airline passenger plan was hijacked from Ahmedabad airport. The hijackers were known to be muslim terrorists who demand some negotiation deals with the Indian government. They contacted Lahore airport and sought permission to land. Pakistani Interior ministry refused and asked the air force to be on high alert and to shoot the airplane if it enters into Pakistani airspace. Three hours after harbouring in the air the plane eventually landed on Indian soil and reason came out to be a reharsal or training of any actual event in a hijacked situation.

    Such is a shame on your country’s part. A failed attempt to put the blame on Pakistan. Never heard any Indian media voicing up at this incident. I’m sure if it would have been true as in the earlier hijack case of 1999 India would have opened up all its fronts of launching a full scale war on Pakistan. This is a lesson to learn for us. I have faith in my belief that more incidents like 26/11, Parliment attack would be made to prepare good grounds of launching a war on Pakistan. It will bring in good support from its public and in the international community and would eventually try its level best to deprive Pakistan from its nuclear arsenal. Something that goes in the interest of not only India but the west as well.

    If you feel like i have used harsh wordings I’m sorry on that part. Its more humble request from my part to close all of your counslates from Af-Pak border, you are free not to resume any talks with Pakistan. No Pakistani is dying to resume talks as well. Let us first settle the differences.

    Regards,
    Usman

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    (Dr.) B.N.Anand Reply:

    Hello Usman Saheb
    Well, I agree and do not deny that Hindus cannot kill Hindus like you do to defend this not happening amongst Muslims simply because your religion does not allow this. On the other hand, the Muslim history is full of these facts. It is because not only you but the whole Pakistan likes to live under this illusion. It will surely help if we can accept the reality rather than to allow to blind ourselves by living in selfdenial.
    Well ,that is exactly my point which you agreed with me while concluding your comments. What is the hurry in resuming the dialogue? Let us first learn to trust each other. Unlike your country, our country has much more diversity in terms of culture, religion and language. Still, we have lived as one country simply because despite majority of our people are Hindus,it is not a Hindu Republic but a Seculaer Republic. Well we may have the despicable caste system and are fighting hard to eradicate it and also we may have many shortfalls in the system as no system can be 100% perfect, but we are all very proud to be able to live together united despite so much diversity. May I also mention I do not have any problem with any one in your country. What I really desire is that people of your country should get out of the mindset of considering our country as its arch enemy.That will continue as long as non-muslims are considered as ‘Kafirs’ by your religion.
    Regards
    (Dr.) B.N.Anand

    Usman Chaudhry Reply:

    Too much ask, very long way to go.

    Usman Chaudhry Reply:

    Greetings Dr Anand,

    Indeed it was a pleasure talking to you. If you feel satisfied in your heart I wish I could really carry on with this impression of not mistrusting or hate fellow non-muslims. Furthermore I would like to spread this message to fellow countrymen as well.

    It was good to know that you are learning Urdu. It doesn’t really matter if you have mastery over it, I’m sure that will come by time. I think I should also catch up along you to learn Hindi.

    Well Wisher,
    Usman

  • Ryan Paul

    I fully agree with Sam. I lived in Saudi Arabia for 15 years and know first hand what Islam is all about. Don’t get fooled by their assertion that Islam is a religion of peace. It is the worst ideology perpetuated by a lunatic con man . He is on record in the Koran that treaties are made to be broken. Their books are full of cunning honey pots meant to trap gullible into their fold. And Indian muslims are showing their true colors in that country. To give an example, in one of the Indian Embassy school run in Dammam, one teacher inadvertently recited Indian National Anthem before the recitation of Koran ( it is mandatory to do so over there) in the school assembly and she was immediately sacked and her entire family was abused with the result that her family had to come back to India. Literature rebuking Indian gods and our holy books are freely circulated and used as a means of converting Hindus and Christians. Let nobody live under any illusion that there can be peace between India and Pakistan as Pakistan’s magna charter is based on a faith which preaches hatred and death for non believers.

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  • vijay kumar

    Dear Vinodji,

    The evil hearted Tahuwur Hussain Rana has suddenly started talking about Gandhi, to escape punishment. I hope that you are not innocent to fall for this line. This man is a cobra and needs to be exterminated and then chopped into pieces and fed to pigs.

    At another time I can picture a Rana in his beard gently spouting Iqbal and Faiz sitting on a podium, addressing a track II gathering. The Indian peaceniks would have gone orgasmic and swooned.
    On a later date the likes of Arundhati Roy and Prashant Bhushan would have launced a human rights campaign to get him free.

    The whole thought is scary.

    Since I sincerely like you, Vinodji, I hope you do not fall for the cobra’s venom and believe the Gandhian talk, Rana and headley may unleash.

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  • Gaadhdi Pilla

    I see business opportunity here! How about commencing an orientation course for all such bureaucrats and such brats who go abroad on a selling spree – one can also design great presentations per requirement. But the IAS cadre is too arrogant to attend any such orientation course – may be a course of drinks entice them.

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  • Saigo

    this is shocking because on one side we have Mr anna fighting corruption and on the other we have leaders fighting to sell out potential to foreign investors. its really in the attitude of people not just the law that has to corrected…..
    preparation comes first and here our leaders see a different approach sightseeing first , shopping next , meeting relatives on the cards presentation on the go……
    hell with these political a** h***

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  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    We need Patriotic & decisive leaders like Narendra Modi to keep the country on track of progress. Nominees like MMS & Mukharjee have doomed the nation. There is sole aim of grabbing power & looting the country. The Janlokpal would have gone a long way in bringing accountability in the system.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Suman-Mukherjee/744925892 Suman Mukherjee

    Very well written. Indeed, the latest trend of hysteric & sensationalized reporting in Indian media is worrying at best, sickening & irritating at worst. But personally, though I am not in a position to opine on the declining quality & standards of journalism in India, I am confident to attribute at least a part of the blame to the new found confidence of Indian Middle class on all matters concerning them including what they want to see, read & hear in the media. Today’s journalists are only left to catering to that at their own expense, can we really blame them for not doing something they are not allowed by their seniors to do?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Suman-Mukherjee/744925892 Suman Mukherjee

    Very well written. Indeed, the latest trend of hysteric & sensationalized reporting in Indian media is worrying at best, sickening & irritating at worst. But personally, though I am not in a position to opine on the declining quality & standards of journalism in India, I am confident to attribute at least a part of the blame to the new found confidence of Indian Middle class on all matters concerning them including what they want to see, read & hear in the media. Today’s journalists are only left to catering to that at their own expense, can we really blame them for not doing something they are not allowed by their seniors to do?

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  • Gyan

    Indian journalists are the lowest paid in the world. Please pay them well, provide food and education, most importantly teach proper English and then recruit
    as reported for Newspaper.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    As a matter of fact, a constant watch on what and how is being reported in the print and elctronic media is very much needed. Inefficiency, callousness and negligence have become norm rather than exception with Indian journalism.

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  • Chris

    Fair comments, but the media’s audience is not only the government. I would say that the Indian public has a legitimate interest in violent attacks carried out against people of Indian origin even if they are not citizens of India (though I agree reporters need to make clearer what they mean by “Indians”).

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  • http://twitter.com/bihar bihar

    India needs to be tough to this neighbour of hours. Its getting more friendly to China and Nepali nationalism is based on anti-India feelings. We need to stop this open border too. Too many crime is happening because of this.

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  • Anatoliasmith

    Police and CRPF are always alert about Naxalities in the tribal area.

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