Refuge for Pak Hindus: India has a difficult choice



Should India offer Pakistani Hindus the chance to make a new life in our country? At an intuitive level, the answer is obvious. Nobody disputes that Pakistani Hindus are treated appallingly. Not only are there acts of violence directed at them but there is also sexual exploitation of young girls who are abducted and then forced to declare that they have converted to Islam and have married their captors.

Another factor that weighs heavily on us is the tragic reality that Pakistan’s Hindus have nowhere to go. They can hardly seek refuge in Afghanistan or in the Gulf. If India refuses to take them in then they will be forever at the mercy of their tormentors.

But, in policy terms at least, the decision is more difficult than it might be at an intuitive level. Those who urge caution offer several grounds.

First of all, there is the two-nation theory to contend with. Pakistan was created as a homeland for the sub-continent’s Muslims. MA Jinnah urged Muslims from all over undivided India to make their homes in the new country. All you needed to be granted Pakistani citizenship was proof that you were a Muslim. So, if any Muslim in the sub-continent says that he or she wants to live in Pakistan, it is difficult for the Pakistani authorities to refuse admittance on grounds of principle, given the nature of the two-nation theory.

But India’s case is different. We were never meant to be a homeland for the Hindus. We treat all our religions as being equal even though Hindus may constitute the overwhelming majority. Are we to say now that we have been transformed into a Hindu homeland? In that case, are we ready to accept practically the entire population of Nepal? As that country slides deeper and deeper into chaos, it is not inconceivable that millions of Nepalis will want to live in India. Do they have the right to Indian citizenship?

Secondly, say those who advise caution, there is the vexed question of religion. When Bangladeshi Muslims want to come across the border, we term them illegal immigrants even if they insist that they were raped or persecuted in Bangladesh. If we are to open our doors to everyone then the consequences could be more far-reaching that we realise.

I do not dispute that these are substantial objections. But they seem to me to take a black and white approach to a subject that is really shaded in grey. First of all, like it or not, we do – at least, in practice – have different standards for Hindus than we do for people from other religions. Take, for example, the Lankan Tamil refugees. It is hard to deny that they were escaping a pogrom, if not genocide. But would we have been as willing to let them in if they were Muslims and not Hindus? And then, there is the case of Nepal. When Bangladeshis come to India looking for jobs it becomes a huge political issue. But lakhs of Nepalis routinely cross over into India looking for the same kinds of jobs. Not only do we not object but we also legally allow them the right to work here.

What’s the difference between a Bangladeshi who comes looking for employment and a Nepali?

Well, one answer is self-evident.

As for Pakistani Hindus, even though the issue has hit the headlines only now, there has been a tradition of small groups crossing over to India and then staying on longer than their visas would allow. We make very little noise about it but our authorities usually grant them citizenship after a decent interval.

The challenge before us, therefore, is to find a principle that is logical and well-defined and yet accords with our intuitive feeling that Pakistani Hindus must be given the right to live in India.

Though the Government of India is dithering about making policy statements, I think that such a principle can easily be found without compromising our status as a secular nation.

To find a parallel, go back in history to the late 1930s. This was the time when Jews were facing terrible discrimination in Nazi Germany. Though Jewish organisations in Britain and America repeatedly petitioned their governments to grant residency rights to Jews fleeing from Hitler’s executioners, the official response was lukewarm and only a relatively small number was allowed in.

Many of those who were denied entry went on to perish in the concentration camps of Belsen and Dachau.

Since then, the principle has been well-established in international diplomacy that if a religious minority is under threat and faces active discrimination, it is incumbent on civilised nations to offer shelter and refuge to members of that minority.

It is this principle that we should adopt in India when it comes to the question of Pakistan’s Hindus. Are they being discriminated against? Are they under active threat? Are they a religious minority?

The answer to all three questions is yes. And so, we should have no difficulty in granting them right of residence.

If you are to examine all the other cases that have been cited by critics of the plan to welcome Pakistani Hindus, then a logical application of this principle provides answers that are intuitively appealing.

Why did we give shelter to Lankan Hindus? Well, they were a religious minority fleeing violence at the hands of the Sinhala majority. Why is it wrong to take a different position with illegal immigrants from Bangladesh? Easy enough: most of them are not part of a religious minority and suffer no discrimination on account of religion. Why should we deny residency to millions of Nepalis if and when their country collapses? Simple enough: Hindus are not a religious minority in Nepal.

For this principle to be valid and correctly implemented, we would have to extend it beyond Hindus. If Sikhs face discrimination in Afghanistan, then of course we must welcome them. If Christians are under threat in Pakistan, or suffer discrimination of the sort suffered by Hindus, then we must give them the right to seek refugee status in India. And if there is proof that Sri Lanka’s Muslims face genocide of the kind that the Tamils lived through then we must also consider their case.

Of course, India cannot become a haven for refugees from all over the world so in terms of practicality, we should limit the implementation of this principle to neighbouring countries.

It is possible that we will end up with more refugees than we expect now – a religious minority from Burma, for example – but the brighter side is that we will at least have a secular justification for our policies. No longer will people be able to say that it is communalism that guides our willingness to accept Pakistani Hindus and our refusal to extend the same principle to Bangladeshi Muslims who enter the country illegally.

One of the great things about the idea of India is that the framers of our constitution took into account most problems we were likely to encounter. It is a mistake to believe that we need to apologise for our desire to welcome Pakistan’s Hindus. It is not only the right thing to do on an intuitive level. It is entirely in accordance with the principles on which this nation was founded.

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  • http://twitter.com/Nivenemous Niv

    This is the most pointless thing I have read all summer.

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  • anil

    Pakistani Hindus have a choice. They can go to Bangladesh, change the religion to Islam then come to India as Muslim refugees. After they get their voting card they can then change their religion again back to original! This will reduce the time taken from 40 years to 2 years! How about that?

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    Hindu Reply:

    Not Possible. Technical problem. You cannot reverse circumcision of penis. Once you become Muslim and have circumcision done, you can’t go back…. lol…. Just having fun but point to be noted!

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    HinduByChoice Reply:

    HinduByChoice@9413f605c3d343f37b9374467abda9d6:disqus answer is to get circumcised. You’ll really enjoy after that my friend. I got my self circumcised after another Hindu advised me. Circumcision does not imply you are a muslim. Many Hindu men like me are circumcised and enjoy life

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  • Salin Gunapalan

    What’s the difference between a Bangladeshi who comes looking for employment and a Nepali?
    I can answer that question better.
    one comes at peace , secures employment & does not form a group, trying to sabotage the country.The other comes in ,forms a group, bargains with local
    leaders ,pressurise policy making ,finally try & take over the government and force others to follow their customs and traditions.

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  • Anonymous

    Agreed. The Government of India should get out of its paralysis.

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  • Rohit

    We should accept the Pakistani Hindus as it is well known that they are discriminated kidnapped and Hindu girls are sexually exploited. So we should accept. But if it comes to accepting Muslim refuge then the answer is no. Because Muslim have shown that once they get into foreign countries they tend to change the local laws to their suitability. Muslim do have problem to co-exist peacefully with non Muslim. We already have this problem why make it bigger by accepting Muslim refuge. We can learn from the problem European and American are facing in regard to Muslim population in their country.

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  • XXX4774 ggg

    The basis of this article is wrong. The muslims in Pakistan and Bangladesh CHOOSE partition. So they or their descendants have ZERO right to enter India. All non muslims in these 2 areas must be welcomed to India because they are the victims of these 2 nations breaking away. And as for equating Nepalese and Burmese muslims. Always remember that India was broken by muslims who did not want to live with HIndus. Should we welcome more muslims to do the same in future?

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  • XXX4774 ggg

    HIndu Pakistanis are a victim of partition. Who cares about Burmese muslims. What do they have to do with India?

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  • Mazi

    India should make every effort to bring back Pak – Hindus who were left behind during partition and send an equal number of Muslims
    to Pak. This way it would stay as bilateral. I can imagine Pak – Hindus turmoil in that country where there is no law and order and there life is at risk
    by muslims

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    Judge Stern Reply:

    I have known first hand in Bangladesh where even the so-called “learned” judges argue that the Muslims’ prophet Muhammad of 37 years married a girl of eight years of age and based on that example the abducted 13-14 years old Hindu girl’s marriage to the Muslims of 30-40 years with forced conversion to Islam is valid within the purview of the Islamic sharia. The Hindu girls’ parents then are subjected to torture and tyranny! This is the predicament Gandhi & Nehru gave the Hindus in Muslim Pakistan with their foresight and vision and great leadership! Muslims cannot live with people of other faiths as their barbarian doctrines have made sure they remain restless until every single peace-loving individual is forcefully converted into Islam! This mode of operations has not changed in Bangladesh, Pakistan or anywhere in the world. They lie low when they are minorities but extremely aggressive when in majority.

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    Please get the facts straight, Holy Prophet Mohammad was 52 years old when he consummated his “marriage” to the child bride Aisha.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/bunts.bhatia Bunts Bhatia

    every thing in india is a nonsense-58000 thousand banglas go missing and so many illegal banglas living in india in slums every where, and now this PAK HINDUS —-THIS IS TO MUCH TO DIGEST-OUR POLITICIANS R RAPING OUR COUNTRY-I THINK VERY SOON WE WILL HAVE A PM FROM SLUMS,SECURITY PEOPLE WILL BE ALSO FROM SLUMS-SHAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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  • Anonymous

    India can offer safe haven to Pakistani Hindus and Ahmadiayyas — another persecuted minority of Pakistan– so as to retain our secular credentials. Unfortunately, once this policy becomes public, the persecution will become even worse, as Pakistanis fundos will try to get rid of their unwanted minorities.

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  • judge.stern

    The follies of Gandhi, Nehru and the Congress now come in full circles. These so-called leaders only let down the Hindus of the sub-continent due to their overly Muslim-love and apathy of the fragmented Hindu society. To ensure the complete subjugation of the Hindus in India, caste politics has been deeply entrenched so that they would never ever turn their eyes on anything else. Meanwhile India’s islamization would rapidly move on to the point of no return! The islamic India is not too far off!

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  • Lion of Gir

    Why is this ridiculous (and disgraced) man still allowed to write for a respectable publication like the Hindustan Times?

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  • Sumit Bose

    Mr Vir ‘Dalal’ Sanghvi, The “difficult choice” is a smoke-screen foisted upon Indians by the legions of Pseudo-secularists. Please get it very well into that thick corrupt skull of yours: For the 1946 Constituent Assembly election held by the British Crown under Separate Electorates, 89.6% of the Muslims voted the Muslim League into a thumping majority, whose single point agenda was a separate nation called Pakistan. The Muslims of United India were marginally over 24% of the population in the 1941 census and because of the astute Barristers who were forwarding their case, they were able to wrangle 30% of United India’s land mass. India had the double tragedy of having two totally failed Barristers who were forwarding our brief, no marks for guessing who these “high and mighty” were; they were BapuJi and Chacha Nehru. They could easily have sought a partition of Sindh from West Pakistan, obtained Chittagong and Rajshahi districts from the East Pakistan side, these both were over-whelmingly Hindu majority districts, but one of these mighty giants went on a “maun vrat” at that crucial juncture and the other went on to curry favour for his imagined grand-standing to become a “Hamlet in the world stage”! As if, this serious lapse was not enough, Sylhet district in Assam (with productive tea-estates) was in India was virtually “gifted” away in 1949 to Pakistan.
    Now Dr Ambedkar was resoloute that the transfer of population had to go hand in hand with the transfer of land and assets, but he was shouted down by our beloved Chacha Nehru and his boot-lickers. ( That’s right Boot-licking in the Congress started in real earnest right at the onset of transfer of power). Dr Ambedkar was no “rabidly communal RSS chaddiwala” he was a staunch opponent of Hindu society, but he had studied Islam and had noted the political power that was handed to the Muslim League by muslims even from MP, Orissa,Tamil Nadu and even Kerala.
    Pakistan/Bangladesh has no Pseudo-secularists as yourself, Barkha, Padgaonkar, Rajdeep etc etc to bring to the mainstream the plight of Hindus in Pakistan or Bangladesh. They are left totally at the mercy of Islamic nutheads that have overrun Pakistan and Bangladesh If your family were from the other side of the border, you would never write this mischievous article, even though you may have been a faithful “dalal’ of the Pseudo-secularists for decades.

    Besides those muslims that handed the mandate to Muslim League for chopping the arms of United India, chose to stay back and create problems in India, getting into continuous acts of rampant rioting and vandalism at the slightest pretexts over the decades. Does that never strike you that atleast this one point of Dr Ambedkar would have been in the best interests of both the entities that emerged from the partition.

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    Nelaish Reply:

    woww..just woww Sumit..thumbs up man…Singvi Shame on u n People like u …HT has Lost its credibility by giving room to the articles of this greedy dalal writer…We hate u Singvi…Cant u understand…???? enough pseudo seculrism yarr.. cumon kuch to shrm bache hogi ya nai…????

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  • Anonymous

    What an idiotic article. Is this guy passing as an intellectual? Answer is crystal clear: allow the hindus to emigrate to India. Period.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/harihar.mani Harihar Mani

    Sir,I’m not into calling people names,but I think Your column does not articulate the problem of Hindus i n Pakistan as well as in b’desh,well..There is one essential criteria every civilized nation follow for refugee status,India just need to follow that.You can not be part of a majority community,you can not seek refugee status for economic reason,your life and limbs are in dire danger,you are oppressed,and religiously discriminated.By that standard they qualify,period.Muslims can not as they sought partition on the basis of religion.There is also one very important point too,they were victim of partition where they were no party to it,no one gave them any say in it,in fact the leadership of India failed very badly,in hind sight it was bordered on crimanality,to be honest.It was shameful for every one of us,we failed them,yes,we have to be careful,without making fuss or score political point or try to defame Pakistan,that will only harm hindus whom we want to help.We can play secular card,it is humantarian crisis.My heart goes out to other suffering minority like ahmedaias and Shias,but we can not ignore the fact these community never thought sunnies will turn their guns on them,they thought Islam would be nice and Hindus bad,but ,they learned the hard way.Remember shia support to Zulifiqar butto,in 1974,they always unite against hindus and other minority,that is way it goes,i trust in your future column you will be more fair 7 balanced,thanks.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/prabhakaran.ramamurthy Prabhakaran Ramamurthy

    We should demand decent treatment of Hindus in all muslim countries. The Indian governments have been so busy with corruption and political games that they have not had time to fight for Hindus in muslim countries.

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  • http://twitter.com/jaybhaskar Bhaskar Jayaraman

    Vir Sanghvi, why aren’t you questioning the influx of refugees from Tibet, Bangladesh, Burma, Armenia, Afghanistan etc. into India? But when it comes to Hindus you spot the light on it with a blowtorch. Stop being so anti-hindu.

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  • randhawa harbans singh

    Two nation theory was invented by short sighted politicians like Jinnaha who thought that they cannot grab absolute political power.we inthe villages had never felt such things and were living peacefully. people had well adjusted to each others culture.In punjab there was secular govt headaed by sir khizar hayat khan. they were against divididing onreligious linea . nwfp was under khan brothers influence and never wanted partition on religious grounds.same remarks apply to sindh.still our leaders accepted partitionand that too against gandhis wishes.But the tragedy is that while pakistan turned out or killed non muslims ,India allowed to continue people who believed in two nation theory mostly in metropolitan cities.some people are still not happy in Indiaand are creating communal trouble.It may be desrable to identify such people and exchanged with pakistan hindues who want to come to India.But perhaps some political parties may not like this due to vote bank politics.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ranita-Ray/100001883604751 Ranita Ray

    Where is the comparison between between Pak Hindus who came as refugees to save their lives and ILLEGAL bangladeshis who are not here are refugee but have come for commercial reasons and are known to take to crime in various cities and associate with muslim terror groups. This land is HINDUSTAN and all hindus are welcome. Who is the govt to decide? We the people will decide.

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  • muhammad d *******

    this ******* vir sanghvi should be shot !! bloody congress agent !! when muslim bangladeshi enter they breed crime and terrorism !! how many nepali have u heard being engaged in terrorism ?? Have u heard of any JEW blowing himself in trains or hotels in GERMANY ?? Tell me u ******* !! N I can tell countless no. of muslims blowing up themselves in trains , buses and hotels !! We all should do muslims a fvour !! shoot them so that they can go and meet their 72 virgins as soon as posiblle !!

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  • sam

    yor sucking loser, man grow up, your hatred shows towards the people of Gujarat and NaMo, man please go and make a living in Pakistan, India does not need you.

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  • Indian

    Every HITLER has his day. Period

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  • Anonymous

    How and why did Jehadi journalist Zia Haq missed Akbarudding episode? Is the deliberate or oversight? The answer is obvious. Our media is now infilterated by terrorists pretending to be journalists.

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    raj Reply:

    obsolutely.. the true , ugly, ungrateful, seditious, envious , shameless muslim character is on full display by this traitor.
    zia- if you so dislike india and hindus why dont you go to your parent country pakistan. as per recent report by UN pak tops in all terrorits and i human indicies. why waste your life in india? your pronographic jiurnakustic skills are of much needed for your jehadi brothers.

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    Impi Reply:

    That’s exactly it. Modi and Akbaruddin are two sides of the same dumb rightwing coin.

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    raj Reply:

    a stupid n uncalled comment by impi………… there is no comparison…infact Modi cannot b compared with a mindless demon like owaisi

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That’s a muslim apologist in you speaking.

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    Impi Reply:

    Nope. Just the truth. Look at their career graphs and speeches.

  • pankaj#1

    Last Friday, at Modi’s ritzy investor carnival, Ambani publicly professed that Modi’s birth in 1950 was an event equal in importance to Mahatma Gandhi’s in 1869. Greatness was never this small and flattery never so daring.
    Zia, My child, have you forgotten, a fellow Assamese, immortal words: India is Indira and Indira is India: Grow up. intellectually, you are a pigmy. you just wear that victimhood. Can you engage with me?? I will show you the mirror.

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  • kanishka

    Zia you are acting like a Jehadi with rabid anti-Hinduism. You have no idea that Gujarat today is the largest employer in India. Every month more than 40,000 skilled and non-skilled labor force migrates to Gujarat for job opportunity from states like Bihar, UP, Rajsthan, Odisha, WB, NE states and even Maharashtra. All are welcome with open arms and live their amicably while enjoying the fruits of Modi’s Gujarat is developing every year. Modi has not declared that Gujarat is a developed state; it is still developing and has long way to go but it is NOT Somalia. It is much better managed than your model states like WB, UP, Kerala or many other states run by UPA.

    Based on per capita, Gujarat state contributes the largest money in the central government in the form of Excise, Customs, Income tax and other fees which exceed rs 60,000 crores in 2010-11 and numbers increasing on daily basis. This money is used by the UPA government to susidise J&K, UP and WB states while giving less to Gujarat. This is the miracle of Modi. This is in addition to the salaries that migrants sent to their native places. Many of Gujarat statics are skewed by the constant migrant workers majority of whom are poor and do not want to spend in the state where they make money.

    How many migrate to Kerala? Keralites are spread all over in search of jobs. The development starts step by step starting with peace, development of infrastructure (roads, power and skilled labor), good governance, corruption free system, willingness of indusustry to establish big units followed by meduim and small scale industries, education institutes, etc. It does not happen otherway round as Jehadis like you think. Once there is enough income to spread, people would spend on health and other social indicators.

    Another point I would like to mention that there is an ANTI-MODI industry which has fudged many statistics to feed pseudo-secularist and jehadis like you. So take a chill pill and talk about OWAISI BROTHER and stop villifying Modi and Gujarat. You have been proven wrong and bigot many time before on the issue of MODI.

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  • Aarti

    Well in most of Muslim world, when Muslims had a chance to elect a government after decades of dictatorship, their choice was Islamists like Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. Is Modi worse than Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas that openly calls for genocide of Jews and second class status for non-Muslims… etc?

    Would Muslims in India prefer Muslims are treated they way they treated native Hindus in Kashmir?

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  • Arun Kumar

    Such morons will never alter their mindset, which is stuck in the 7th century. That is the time when a complete totalitarian ideology was born, so the less Mr Haq talks about totalitarianism, the better. As regards the progress, the state is making, it needs no certification from such sceptics, who peddle outdated statistics. I suggest he read Bibek Debroy’s latest treatise on Gujarat and its development story. Mr Haq, you can choose to remain in an Ostrich mode, if you wish, but the world is passing you bye.

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  • prem

    lets have look at Modi “ he has a big mouth on him but no Idea what he taking about he model his self on the Nazis, dose he not know the Nazi were most blood thirsty people in Europe. they murdered million and millions of Israelis, they gassed them? they started the second world war.

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  • ge

    Modi is a low life murderer

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    Pakko Reply:

    stop looking into the mirror …. we are not talking about you here. ;-)

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  • raj

    no wonder they call you a muslim!!!!

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  • Sumit Bose

    If these “fat cat tycoons had lavished the same “praise” on our beloved Italian ex-maid this jihadi nut-case would have applauded or resounded it with an acquiescing silence.
    Mian, why this “thundering silence” on Owaisi’s 15 minutes of time out from the police to show your community’s strength to the coward community? We all would love to hear your “conspiracy theory” on that

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  • Babu

    HindustanTimes is run by pakistani terrorists. This article is one of the best evidence. Just the mere tone of the article makes me puke. Keep barking and the day will soon come when you are put in place.

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  • TRUTH

    MODITVA MODITVA MODITVA….AND JUSTICE FOR BHARAT MATA….THE REST, LIKE THIS “JOURNALIST” DON’T EVEN EXIST.

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  • Pradeep Tumati

    The author should explain what India is paying now?… remember, India went in the way the author aspires for the past 60 yrs and achieved nothing and now, when Modi is trying to make a change, he is being compared to Hitler.

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  • Rahul

    Thanks Zia ul Haq (or whatever), I’m rooting for for Modi. Had enough of your Pakistani bro Mickey Mouse Singh.

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  • zia haq

    The grapes are so extremely sour that we have no recourse, but to resort to lies. lies amd more lies – like our Maha Mad taught us 1400 years ago.

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    zia haq Reply:

    . …and Maha Mad conveniently formulated it as “taqiyya”.

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  • K.C.sekhar

    OK sir agreed . Gujarat is bad – most backward state – and the people there are dumb – in fact it is very very bad and most inconvenient as well as it is very dangerous to live in Gujarat. One does not know how people live in such conditions that can be compared to Uganda as compared to other states which resemble the rich Texas or California in US.

    All the industrialists who come to the states are dumb and foolish and they are wasting their precious money which they got from their parents by investing in Gujarat. Unfortunately almost all the industrialists fall in this category – even Tata – who has taken over foreign companies in their country.

    what a shame – you see the Gujaratis in this state live their life in darkness unlike other states in India – no electricity – no power and live in medieval times.

    Very good analysis. let us all urge people to leave Gujarat.

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    aryan Reply:

    ha ha ha ha …………… i feel pity on the IQ level of such generalist…. i wonder whether they have any brain or not

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Varadaraj/1243167347 Tony Varadaraj

    Last I heard, Ratan Tata, Godrej and many others who attended the summit and are singing Modi’s praises are Parsees who practice the Zoroastrian faith that was decimated in their home country of Persia by, you guessed it, Muslims. It was Hindus who welcomed them with open arms and never forced them to give up their religion. There are many, many industrious non-Muslims and Muslims like the Bohras who are benefiting from the Gujarat experiment that puts industrialization, infrastructure, development in the forefront to achieve prosperity rather than the utterly failed policy of re-distributing the economic pie through electoral maths based on caste, religion etc., without doing anything to grow it because that is beyond their capabilities. These very same Muslims would be blown to bits like the Hazaras in the land of the pure. But take it from a Muslim crab to turn it into a Hindu hate-fest in disguise. Muslim extremists have learned the art of Goebbelsian propaganda very well to use any and every method, including the pretense of “oppression” if their obsession to make their ideology dominant is thwarted like it has been in Gujarat.

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  • Dr.V.Mahadevan

    HT has in its stables horses like this author. Obviously he cannot stomach the appreciation showered on Modi by the industrial elite of India, How to denigrate and downgrade the same ? Development is not the be all and end all of lifeTHe unholy partnership of nationalism and . religious fundamentalism is what has propelled many cultures, but our author has only Nazi Germany in mind and ipso facto Modi is a Hindu HITLER!!Mind you similar idiots have in the past derided the Hindu rate of growth in India !The author wiill find it difficult to point to any Islamic regime which has developed without allowing its natural resources being exploited by the West. Poor in resources and the Islamic countries are prone to dictatorship and the richer ones are dependent upon slave labour..Clearly the desire to make Islam the central force in the world has been stymied by historical factors. Reversing them by force is one cause of terrorism which is funded by rich Islamic dictatorships.Muslims in India are a restless lot for in their case there is a nostalgic desire for times past when Islamic rule prevailed here.That the British created one Islamic state when they left, which divided itself in two, is not consolation enough as both have become failed entities. Animosity and hatred of India is the driving force in Pakistan and acquiring more living space is the motivation in Bangladesh.In the middle India is doing relatively well despite the many problems ,,some created by our neighbors is cause for heartburn, for our ‘friends’..

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Varadaraj/1243167347 Tony Varadaraj

    On another note, I remember Indian socialists of the ’60’s and ’70’s who wanted every private industry in India to be nationalized (a policy that nearly bankrupted India in the early ’90s). They were holding their noses at the emerging South-East Asian economies like Singapore, Taiwan, Hong-Kong etc. and ridiculed them for practicing screw-driver technology of just assembling things for the rich West. Today those countries have moved into the first world and India is now looking up to their story as a model for growth. Even forgetting the obvious “oh-we-poor-Muslims-are-so-oppressed-in-India-by-evil-Hindus” slant of this article, this is similar attempt to pull down anyone who is actually leading so that those who are incapable of leading but want all the fruits of leadership continue to prosper in India.

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  • sanjay vikram

    agreed….she should ask this question from Sonia and her congress party…who has ruled this country for almost 50 years…..they had and have all the inpowers..to change this nation for better…..why ppl like Zia have problems with the concept of hindu and hindutva…this is comedy and farce in India ..when I say I am hindu and believe Hindutva is being dubbed as communal

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    aryan Reply:

    No need too feel ashamed of that………..the more mindless owaisi speak …the more n rigid we will become…………. I always considered myself as Indian first n everything last……………but now I have to change this attitude….. Let me remind myself that I am Indian n Hindu…. n proud to be that………….. I am happy that I am not any convert (by fear from gulf looters) unlike many of convert mindless owaisis who r spreading the hatred in our beloved country without realising that their history doesnot begin 1400 years ago……. n time has come to remind these mindless convert that learn from the mistakes which their forefathers commited by converting out of fear from gulf looters n recall their trueself

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  • sanjay vikram

    Not sure what prompts Shobhana Bhartiya and her joker editor _ Vir Sanvghi to allow traitors like Zia to publish her blog in “”HINDUSTAN TIMES”"…

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  • Ankit

    I was hoping Zia will follow up on the Owaisi episode this time. It was an opportune moment to denounce his hate speech in no uncertain terms- to tell us he does not believe in insulting Lord Ram or Hindus- and to make a case for why people like Owaisi should be marginalized in the Indian society. However, Zia is on his usual rant.

    This is revealing, because it tell me Zia is not about better community relations. In fact people like him are more dangerous than Owaisi, because their hatred in cloaked int the sophistication of English columns and blogs.

    I hope the youngsters of our country can see people like Zia for who they really are.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    When so many of our industrialists are singing praises of Narender Modi, surely Modi must have done something worthwhile to earn such accolades. My problem with Modi is regarding the way he opted for to grab power – it was a very sinister plot indeed. He sacrificed the lives of Hindu women in that train at Godhra through a mercenary mob; then, within no time (as it was all pre-planned) attacks on Muslims took place in a very organized manner. This type of large scale and wide spread murder established Narender Modi as a champion of Hindus. With the BJP in power at the state and center in 2002, every aspect of the pogrom was minutely stage-managed, with all the requisite cover-ups in place. Dawood Ibrahim does the same thing too; he is ruthless in all executions and as a businessman – legal, illegal, legimate or illegimate they are basically businesses – he is more efficient than Ambani, Tata or Birla. The issue therefore boils down to that age-old question : whether end justifies the means – that is the big moral, ethical question facing us all.

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    Tony Varadaraj Reply:

    Over 45,000 Muslims have been blown to bits in the land of the pure over the last decade to make it even purer most of it with the connivance of authority. Just two days ago, over a hundred Hazaras were sent to kingdom come in Quetta and their kith and kin are even willing to commit the sacrilege of not burying their dead according to Islamic rights to seek justice. And yet, the only hate you can pour is about a fraction of it that happened 10 years ago that was instigated by the same kind of Muslim hatred that does not overflow like next door because it is kept in check by authority. Go shed a few of your crocodile tears across the border; maybe they’ll serve some useful purpose.

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    Indian Reply:

    i feel pity on ur IQ level……………. u don’t want to digest the fact that muslims can also do the train burning episode….. u don’t accept the fact that muslims looters from gulf destroyed so so many temples and looted crore of property from our country…….. Infact u may not b digesting the fact that ur forfathers might have been converted to islam due to fear of death from muslims looters of gulf…………….Recall ur history …. it is not just 1400 years old but millions of years…. n feel pride in that history which is millions of years

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Varadaraj/1243167347 Tony Varadaraj

    An article in 2011 about the man who supposedly hates Muslims. I am guessing that the Bohras are persona non-grata in the eyes of their brethren who are instigating such hatred not only in the sub-continent but around the world. It just goes to prove that there is no contempt towards Muslims but it is towards those Muslims who cannot live peacefully not only amongst non-Muslims but those that they think are not Muslims in the first place:

    Chief minister seeks bigger role of Bohras in Gujarat development
    Published: Sunday, Feb 20, 2011, 15:30 IST
    By DNA Correspondent | Place: Ahmedabad | Agency: DNA

    If, ‘He came, he spoke and he conquered’ can sum up the one-and-a-half hours that he spent at the Burhani Expo, chief minister Narendra Modi did a Caesar on Saturday morning.

    Members of the Dawoodi Bohra community participating in the event from across the country as well as the globe seemed very impressed with Modi after he finished his 20-minute speech. In between showering praises on spiritual leader Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb, Modi spoke at length on how the Bohra community had contributed to the state’s growth and appealed them to continue doing so.

    While saying that development was the only answer to all social ills, he urged
    Bohras to play a bigger role in the state’s development.

    The two-day expo is a trade exhibition of Dawoodi Bohra community, the first
    of its kind in the country where more than 150 exhibitors from various industries are taking part.

    Modi began his speech by praising the Bohras who he said have brought a good name to Gujarat from every place they have been to. Describing Syedna Saheb as a karmasheel person the CM said that the community has been fortunate enough to get Saheb’s blessings and good wishes every year.

    “Today Vibrant Gujarat Summit has become a big event but few people know that first Vibrant Gujarat Summit in 2003 had started off in Surat with Syedna Saheb’s
    blessings,” Modi said.

    Earlier, Saheb’s son Huzefa Saheb praised Modi for taking Gujarat on the fast track of progress. He asked the Bohras to be a part of the state’s development and that the Burhani Expo will strengthen the community links. This will serve as a platform for
    Bohras to grow.

    Textiles, chemicals, hardware, pharma, machine tools, construction, glass, metal and jewellery are some of the sectors which were presented at the expo.

    More than 2,000 Bohra community members were rapt in attention as Modi delivered his speech, and frequently lauded the CM’s words. This, even though, most of them had to remain standing, on account of limited seating arrangement.

    Modi said that Syedna Saheb’s 100th birthday (on March 25 as per Islamic calendar) was being celebrated in the state’s Golden Jubilee Year.

    He said that Syedna Saheb was turning 100, and he had requested him to remain in Gujarat for his birth centenary celebrations.

    The CM praised the importance Dawoodi Bohra community had laid on education. He noted that while Mahatma Gandhi established Gujarat Vidyapith in 1930, Syedna Saheb’s father had established Arabic University in Surat long before that in 1920 itself.

    He praised the community for having been able to keep itself away from various ills, and attributed it to the spiritual guidance provided by Syedna Saheb. He said that the Bohras, while being open to change, had managed to retain their culture and preserve the Gujarati language.

    He said the community had vigorously taken up the task of building check-dams in the state. He urged Bohra community women to educate pregnant women about the importance of proper nutrition to prevent malnutrition among them. Modi also released a souvenir of the Expo at the end of his speech.

    It was announced that Burhani Foundation India would distribute 52,000 bird feeders on March 6 to protect sparrows and other small birds which were on the verge of extinction. He also took a round of the stalls showing keen interest in the businesses exhibited.

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    Faulitics Reply:

    But Zia wouldn’t consider bohras as Muslims but heretics to be in line with his ummah.

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    Tony Varadaraj Reply:

    Indeed, when you consider what the Hazaras, Shias, Ahmediyyas and others are going through in Pakistan having to face the threat of being blown up by the hundreds, the Bohras wouldn’t stand a chance at the hands of the jihadis if they are not protected by the rule of law in India.

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  • Raghavendra

    Mia Zia Haq what the hell you mean by a MYSTERIOUS FIRE in that train in GODHRA?

    you dont want to blame MUSLIM mobs for setting that train on fire in GODHRA but you have already decided HINDUS as CULPRITS in riots that followed?

    you betray your bias towards your community so openly by writing like this.

    i advise you to grow up MIA dont be a baby.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What he is trying to say is that-
    1. Karsevaks burnt the coach themselves.
    2. or Some hindu elements from Godhra burnt the coach.
    3. or martians carried out this act.

    4. Muslims are clean and can never do such this as non-violent mohammad never killed a fly in his life.

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  • Faulitics

    Zia is a coward and always goes for low hanging fruits. Strange that a “Muslim affairs” writer could not write about the treacherous akbaruddin Owaisi story but focus on a Hindu nationalist whipping boy instead.

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  • Raj

    no wonder you are called a muslim..zia, you epitomise what a muslim is.

    1. muslims cant see the truth. truth for them is what is convenient to their religion. They can lie through their teeth without a shame all in the name of religion – al takiya.
    2. muslims do not have sense of gratefulness. They do not have any sense of allegiance to the country that gave birth to ther fathers and forefathers in the past and going to feed them and sustain their future generations.
    3. Patriotism is an alien concept to muslims. Muslims can never be patriots. If they are patriots they can never be muslims.

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  • Ramesh Kumar

    THE BLOGGER MAY ANSWER ONLY ONE QUESTION.WHY IN ALL THE STATES RUN BY SONIA’S CONGRESS ,THERE IS NO SUCH INTREST IN INVESTING ?
    RIOTS TOOK UNDER RAJIV GANDHI IN DELHI -1984,DID THIS BLOGGER EVER WROTE ON THAT,IF NOT WHY NOT?

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  • bluewrox

    well …”fat cats” lavished praises…this “thin dog” lavished gaalis….

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  • vijay !

    Fantastic article in DAWN by a Pakistani Punjabi. It just details why Pakistan is a failed ideology. In fact it frankly admits that the mohajirs had just no chacne of being treated as equals. While the Bengalis were thoguht to be short, dark and Ugly.

    ———– to quote DAWN———–

    The educational level of India’s Muslims had been generally poor, but that of the Punjabi Muslim was simply pathetic, particularly the business community and the army men had no taste for useless pursuits such as learning and intellect; wealth came as Fazl-e-Rabbi, self-confidence came from the success of the Pakistan Movement, aggressive attitudes were genetic to us as Muslims.

    It has been natural for us to dismiss all our other nationalities with contempt if they disagreed or challenged us. So we evaluated our national diversity like this: Bengalis are black, small, ugly, disloyal crooks, Sindhis are lazy, hateful parasites living off our hard work, Balochis are unclean, lazy, ignorant, pagan fools whom we feed, God knows why. And well, Pathans? They are funny homosexuals and deeply jealous of our high merit. We never stopped our loud claims of everything good and right.

    We lost the defining part of our identity with disgrace and shame in 1971, although we have never admitted to this day that the Bangla Pakistanis were Pakistan’s identity much more than we were. We supported an illegal and immoral massacre by our army, which was illegal because it acted under orders of an illegal government and immoral because it attacked the elected majority. We externalised our guilt instead of bowing our heads in shame; we blamed India and the world for our disgrace. Today, we are again at a similar crossroads with deeper internal chaos and greater international isolation.

    We do not lose an inch of our honor if we submit to the wishes of the units that form tha

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    Tony Varadaraj Reply:

    Don’t expect our indigenous Muslim crabs to embark on such a self-critical exercise any time soon because every ill that they suffer from is always the fault of the Hindus. Remember those of them who emigrated to Pakistan now are making a nuisance of themselves there too, blaming the hapless Sindhis for not adjusting to them in Karachi.

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  • DrM

    Virulent hate-mongering among Muslims against other religions is not new. It doesn’t matter whether the target is Narendra Modi. It is just a manifestation of a deeply twisted mindset.

    Let me present arguments in my favor.

    1. As far as the current crisis is concerned, no Muslim condemns the Godhra train burning, which was the tipping point in an already communally-sensitive Godhra. Stupid arguments like ‘was set on fire by RSS/BJP’ is the standard line of the Indian Muslims and a lot of Hindus who want to parade themselves as ‘Secular’. The fact that the local councilor a Muslim, was instrumental in burning the train and prevented help from reaching the victims is already on record. Probably he was aware that the backlash that would follow would play Muslims right into the hate stream of the Jihadi elements, and may have had political and financial backing to do so.

    2. Communal riots are not new to India. They have happened right since the time of partition. And the majority of Hindus were comfortable living their own peaceful lives. Muslims, whenever in power, however, always have wanted to establish a separate geographical and political space for themselves. The only way they could do so was to eliminate the remainder of the population in that area. Kashmir is a prime example, and the Pandits and Buddhists are still refugees. Long before the flaring up of the J&K situation, can anyone forget what the MIM and the erstwhile Nizam do in Andhra Pradesh, raising Razakars and butchering poor hindu peasants? There was no Babri Masjid, no J&K at that time. Does anyone condemn that? The events of Babri Masjid and Godhra are just covers for Muslims to justify hate-mongering and violence.

    3. Everyone says- Muslims are poor. I agree. But what is the root cause? Has anyone prevented them from going to schools? Anyone prevented them from pursuing higher education? Anyone preventing them from voting? No. These problems stem from a combination of high birth rate, polygamy, putting a twisted religious view before family, non-implementation of scientific education, and rabid opposition to any alternate interpretation of Islam and the Quran. Case in point- why did the Sufi ideology not penetrate the masses? The reason is that the hardliners have always threatened them with violence, and have usually followed up on their threats. We could barely hear a reaction from the Muslims when a Kerala professor got his hands chopped off for setting up a discussion in an exam paper. Really tolerant and peaceful guys, aren’t they?

    4. All Muslims talk of a bias against them. The reverse is also true. Try walking the lanes of the Old city in Hyderabad or Lucknow, you’ll realise what I am talking of.

    5. When rabid hate-mongerers like Mr Zakir Naik say openly that Islam is the only true religion, and there is nothing wrong with Muslims not allowing any temple or church to be constructed in their vicinity, there is no condemnation of that, no showing placards of equality to him, no sloganeering from the ‘moderate’ Muslims, nothing. This shows that there is no place for ‘moderate’ Islam in today’s society.

    6. Development is the best way to keep a society from internal conflict. The hope for progress, better facilities, and a safer life appeals to everyone, so that kids and the youth go to schools and colleges, and are kept off the streets and from drugs. This is how the world, by and large, maintains order. The police are just there to keep the few rowdy elements in check, and not the masses. Keeping a whole state subjugated by violence is the sole provision of Muslims, North Koreans and a few other dictatorships. This idea of progress is not digestible by the likes of Mr Haq, and why? Narendra Modi is the only man in India currently capable of pushing the agenda of development and keeping Muslims interested in anything else apart from violence. That doesn’t serve the Imams, Mullahs, the Owaisis, and the controllers in the Middle East. The sole aim of these groups is to establish an Islamic Caliphate globally, and are unfortunately served by the polished slime consisting of ‘educated’ people like Mr Naik and Haq. A lie repeated too many times over starts sounding like truth. That is what these guys are experts at.

    Anyway, I feel that it is time for Indians to wake up, show all extremists, especially Muslims, their place in society, and establish the firm rule of law, without fear and favour. When a socirty goes astray, it is the duty of the law to force them to comply with the rule of law. This is sadly missing in the society. We can reflect on that sometime later.

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  • agnivesh

    KILLER MODI IS EX-TEABOY OF ROADSIDE RESTRANT IN GUJRAT.heis darling of international and local copitalist media brcause he is selling our land to multinational.riots are perpetuated tovacate muslims and dalits frm prime land so that their land can be sell to foreigners.corporates brings hunger and poverty not prosperity.read the history of latin america.americam president cannot go anywhere.

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