Pakistan, living and loving to hate India



In part of the Pakistani media, and in some sections of Pakistani society, the Indian view of Pakistan is routinely caricatured. We hate Pakistan, it is said. We have never reconciled ourselves to the existence of Pakistan and wish to see it destroyed. Our agents are continually plotting to break up Pakistan. And so on.

A second, more offensive, characterisation also lurks beneath the surface. India is a Hindu country. There is no place for Muslims in our society. We discriminate against them. And sometimes, we attack them during pogroms.

I won’t bother to dignify the second characterisation with a response.

Any society whose three most popular icons are called Shah Rukh Khan, Salman Khan and Aamir Khan, has no explaining to do on the Hindu-Muslim front. There may well be communal tensions – just as there are ethnic tensions – within the framework of Indian society.
But India, unlike Pakistan, is a nation founded on a secular view of the world and not on religion.

But it is the first caricature that is the most worrying. It is a view propped up by sections of the Pakistani establishment to justify a certain kind of order. If Pakistan is not under threat from India then why does it need such a huge army? Why should so much money be spent on defence expenditure? And if India is not actively interfering in Pakistan’s internal affairs then why are the Mohajirs so restive? Why are the Baluchs so unwilling to accept Islamabad’s authority? Why did East Pakistan break away and become Bangladesh?

It is easy to see why some Pakistanis need to prop up the Evil India caricature to justify the events of recent history and the current state of Pakistan. But, every now and then, fate conspires to demonstrate how false this caricature is.

The truth is that Pakistan is at the periphery of the consciousness of most Indians. The further you go from Delhi, the less Pakistan matters. When people do think about Pakistan, it is not with any sense of hostility. Only on one issue do feelings run high. And that is the Pakistani role in terrorism. Frankly, that should come as no surprise.

Feelings run high on this issue all over the world, in America and Europe, and even in Pakistan itself. Concerns about the Pakistani army’s sponsorship of terrorists are a global phenomenon and are unconnected to any specific emotion within India.

If you need any proof of the goodwill that exists in India towards Pakistan you need only look at the reception accorded to Asif Zardari when he visited India on Sunday. For days before the visit, the media had been breathless with excitement. When he did arrive, his trip was the subject of live TV coverage. His son Bilawal was treated as though as he was a matinee idol. And the Indian public eagerly awaited every detail of the visit: what Zardari ate; who he sat next to at lunch; what he wrote in the visitors book at the Ajmer dargah; etc.

India has no reason to love Asif Zardari. He was President of Pakistan when 26/11 occurred. And his government has failed to act against those who masterminded the attack. The kindest thing that we can say about his role in those events is that he is an ineffectual figure, unable to do much because of the hostility of the army.

And yet, we welcomed him with warmth and enthusiasm.

So it was with Pervez Musharraf when he came for the Agra summit. Then too, Indians had no reason to like the President of Pakistan. General Musharraf was the architect of the Kargil invasion, had refused to turn up to greet Prime Minister AB Vajpayee when he was on a visit to Lahore, and had taken office after arresting the democratically-elected Prime Minister of Pakistan.

Despite this background, Musharraf received an ecstatic welcome.
Crowds lined the streets as his convoy passed through Delhi. The elite lined up to be introduced to him. And the media gave him fawning coverage.

In the event, the General remained true to his background. He was hard and uncompromising during his summit with the Prime Minister, invited editors for breakfast and lectured us on India’s misdeeds and then, stalked out of the summit blaming internal divisions within the Indian government for the failure of the meeting.

It is a measure of how much goodwill there is in India towards Pakistan that even after this fiasco, Indians are still excited about the visit of a Pakistani President. At some level, we are willing to forgive the political failures and to rely on neighbourly affection alone.

I make no judgements about the wisdom of this approach. When Musharraf came to Agra, I was in a tiny minority of columnists who warned that we were expecting too much from him. And at his breakfast meeting with editors, I was one of the few people who asked a hostile question.
(“You are the architect of Kargil. Why should we trust you now?”)

Similarly, I don’t think the Zardari visit is going to make any difference to India-Pakistan relations. Presidents and summits have come and gone over the years but relations still remain pretty much the same.

My only point is this: Pakistanis who believe that all Indians hate them and that we are committed to the destruction of their nation should look at the warmth with which we greet their leaders. Even though history tells us that we should not necessarily trust Pakistani politicians or have much faith in their intentions, we cannot stop ourselves from being welcoming and excited when they do visit our country.

Call it a triumph of hope over experience if you will. Or call it India’s essential goodwill towards Pakistan. But either way, the conclusion is the same: the Pakistani people have nothing to fear from the Indian people.

Now, if they would only act against those terrorists…

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  • Anonymous

    Why is Sujata Jealous of those dancers? When Yuva Congress will organize a function in Mumbai, I am sure it will invite Sujata to dance on number “Sujata Badnaam hui Rahul Baba tere liye”.

    She will get her due.

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  • Anonymous

    Shut up…you SOB. When Sujata can write BS on others, she should be ready for the same.

    Bada aaya Press council of India ka Tatta.

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  • Anonymous

    There was one Vir Snaghvi who gave us a gem—”that a strong stable Pakistan was not in India’s interest.”

    There was another Vir sanghvi who name featured in the Radia tapes and … becasue he was more decent then others caught on tape… went into penance.

    Maybe it is time to recheck the Vir Sangvhi who could put big ideas in simple language… again

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    Ag Reply:

    You should check your logic. Vir Sanghvi’s views on the impact of strong Pakistan is not at odds with this piece.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Being illogical is so much easier.

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  • Rajiiiv

    You left out the conclusion: Indian foreign policy towards Pakistan is un-professional, emotional and divorced from the reality that the Pakistan state is corrupt and dishonest to the core and any engagement with it will only bring deceit.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_URSXATBEMZ7HUAB3OH36PLYWDM Ashok

    What the columnist has left unsaid is that the warmth – affection may not quite be politically correct, it is still barely spring, not summer – that Indians show Pakistanis is reciprocated on the other side of the border as well. That it exists despite the history and record of the last sixty five years is a very hopeful portent for the future.

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  • Muhammad Ahsan

    Great, article. But brother although a lot of efforts are being done, not only within the political scope of Pakistan, but from foreign influences too, to make us have a negative view of India.

    I as a 100% Pakistani, love India, your country is so diverse in it’s beauty, not to mention, the Islamic history it has also.

    As you ended terrorism is a problem, and I hope we solve it, so our neighbors can be pleased with us, so we can also live safely.

    Again, we love you, not hate. We believe in ” kar bhala, so ho bhala”. InshAllah right leadership will come forth in our country, and we will treat India, as a great neighbor that the truly are.

    - From your brother, from Lahore, Pakistan.

    Khudahafiz.

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  • Dr Mishra

    Dear Muhd Ahsan

    Welcome to this blog and thank you for your comments. Sadly, your type- peace loving and pro-India, constitute barely 5% of the Pakistani population. I speak on the strength of my 30 year interaction with Pakistani fellow docs in UK here, and on my daily interactions with the huge Pak community here in Yorkshire.

    Pl do stay on and contribute both here and on Vinod Sharma’s blog, where Rajiiv and Vijay Kumar above, my cyber friends, often comment.

    Can I finally say that I am sickened absolutely by the fawning we gave and continue to give to Mushy- butcher of Kargil.

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  • Ag

    Isn’t it bothersome that we are so fawning over Pakistanis even after being kicked in the shin many many times? It is not a strength to be glorified, but a weakness to work on and eliminate.

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  • RajX

    Indian society has this gift of spinning it’s weakness as a strength. Welcoming a leader of a country who have promised to bleed us with a thousand cuts is suicidal to say the least. Do people remember the Mumbai attacks, parliament attack, serial bombing carried out Dagwood “bhai” with Pakistani rdx

    We even spin our relationships with even our past colonizers. For example, we claim that we have a “historical” relationship with Iran. Strangely no one cares to expand on the nature of this “relationship” for a very good reason. This “relationship” is that of the one between a slave and a master.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Pakistan suffers from inferiority complex. The pygmies believe that they are the descendants of Chengiz Khan and can any day barge into India, forgetting the fact that we have defeated them in wars whenever they chose to attack us.
    Actually Pakistan is USA’s Israel for South Asia, to be used to terrorise the populace. It was carved out of India to keep a check on us, the communists China and the former USSR. Pakistan played its role out in dismantling of the USSR by helping the Afghans drive out the commies from Kabul. Now it is helping to put a check on India’s growth by sending terrorists time and again and by making us concentrate our troops in the western and northern sectors. Despite China’s help to that country, Pakistan harbours sympathisers of the rebels of Xinjiang Muslim province of China – the USA can any day decide to use these when it choses to. Pakistan is allowed to play in this area by the US and its allies as they stand to lose nothing. All that goes to prove that India is a very tolerant country – it is tolerating Pakistan as its neighbour with this much sagacity and forbearance!

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  • http://thepoliticalopportunist.blogspot.com/ abhishek sharma

    India needs Pakistan and Pakistan needs India to remain countries. Once there is no Kashmir issue, there will be no Pakistan and no India.

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    farha sen Reply:

    abhishek sharma hum kashmir toh le k rahen gay, tere baap ka h

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  • Anonymous

    @ Vir Sanghvi

    rehabilitation in the public eye wont come by censoring comments for sure. People would feel that you something to hide. let it be a free debate. People even may say the harshest things… but be brave enough to face them.

    Amongst teh HT blog sites, Vinod Sharma gets 1500 or so comments for every posting. Yours are stuck at 10 to 15 now…

    Well… I think you should learn to respect public sentiments…

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  • M.a.Rajah

    There is too much poison drilled into people of India by the media to demonise Pakistan over anything but everthing.i have three Indians working with me a punjabi Hindu ,gujrati Hindu and gujrati Muslim ,each one of these guys agree on one thing that they are brainwashed from early age to have anti Pakistan feel. I personnely believe that by in large majority of Indians are excellent people , however this not say that some igronent Pakistanis are immune to this type behaviour ,we should try and put some love and effection when ever we meet and get this menace out of thoughts .my advise to Muslim is behave like Muslim .we have Islam to guide us , otherwise we will go into the dark ages

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    Deepak Kumar Reply:

    we are not brain washed against pakistan in india,Ur country is of no significance to us,About the dark ages, Islam is a black hole its impossible to get of it.

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  • Anonymous

    No matter whether so called Minority is educated or not, a Muslim will always blame BJP and Hindus, there is no difference between one pickpocket roaming on street who is uneducated and falls victim to preachings of Maulvi and Mullahs and you as a writer, first tell Muslims to get over with there hate, learn to coexist with others, stop using physical assaults in everything and stop acting as victims and forcefully or deceitfully picking up hindu girls and converting them by sweet talks, finally they should be party of country and give solutions instead of just producing more and more babies by marrying to 4 wives and producing 4-8 babies out of each wife, i have seen even in Delhi where one Muslim man has 32 children, where is the space and resources in country.

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    rao Reply:

    No matter whether so called Minority is educated or not, a Muslim will always blame BJP……………..they see the things with their own eyes

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  • Sumit Bose

    I fail to comprehend the selective outrage of the Muslims. When Muslims massacre Muslims ( Darfur, Iraq etc etc) the entire muslim world and the street-corner rabble-rousing mullas are suspiciously silent. When other communities react to the provocations of the muslims, the entire “ummah” suddenly erupts in loot/plunder mode.
    It was interesting to note that no SMSes were sent out in Gujarat, and in Gujarat no people of the North East, (who are there in large numbers) felt the insecurity to leave Gujarat.
    As if the tragedy was not not enough, our Indian government has reduced the sufferings of thousands to a comedy, accusing Pakistan for this all! Which translates, that the mobsters who terrorized the thousands to leave so many cities will face no force of the law catching upto them!

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  • Anonymous

    I think we need to distinguish between incidents, episodes and the underlying
    philosophy here. There is clarity in RSS’s
    strategy. They wish to continue to portray the Muslim community as Alien Others,
    not “one of us”. To do this it either
    stages various incidents, such as Rath Yatras, Communal Riots or it exacts
    political mileage out of spontaneously occurring incidents such as illegal
    migration of Bangladeshi’s. The congress
    secularism whilst it started on a very politically correct and liberal footing
    has been severely compromised and is now a very pale shade of its former
    self. For as long as the RSS will continue to regard
    Indian Muslims as Aliens and spare no effort to OTHER them, we will continue to
    have our politics being played in communal terms. Bangaldeshi migration will
    become yet one more incident in the chain that stretches back 65 years.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/deepakj Deepak Jain

    Dear Author, you should rename the blog as “Assam – another product of BJP’s sectarian agenda”. This will make it easy for you to name all your future blogs too – just replace the first word with whatever the issue may be.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/deepakj Deepak Jain

    And yet Muslims continue to vote for Cong+NCP who have ruled the state forever, except for 5 years. So why crib

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  • gaffar

    don’t ask for 4.5% obc sub quota, ask govt for overall reservation quota like 33% ladies reservation, overall reservation of all minorities is better

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  • sabahat sai

    pakistan zindabad

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    Deepak Kumar Reply:

    I, hope pakistan lives long for this slogan

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  • rabia agha

    salman hates india.

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  • pooja gupta

    hindu hai hi kutti qaum l0ve pak

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  • pooja gupta

    gandhi (late) khusath ne india azaad karwake bht bara paap kiya hai halanke ab iski awashakta nhe rahi bharat **** bhagwan **** are koi 1 ho toh bolo sale 15, 16 toh bhagwan hain mein hun to indian gharane se par india ka riwaaj aur taur tareeke dekh kar ajiz hun i l0ve allah n i love pak.

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  • salma

    inke bollywood ko bs rona hi ata he are hollywood ki naqal karke filmein banate hain aur pak ko apne se kam tar samajhte hai india puri duniya par bojh he, YA ALLAH UTHALE IS INDIA KO TAKE ZAMEEN PAR SAKOON AJae AMeeN.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002281383123 Deepak Kumar

    This is the story of issac and ishmael,issac is the legitimate son of Abraham and sarah.Ishmael born to hagar a servent of sarah not a rightfull son, That is why all muslims are socially Misfit people.

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