Tinker Tailor: Dull, dark and lost on England

There is an unwritten rule of cinema and TV direction. It goes something like this: if you are making a period picture or TV series then you must settle on a tone.So, the success of Mad Men is only partly about it’s plot. What hooks people is the evocation of America in the early sixties. Boardwalk Empire is only partly about the characters who inhabit Atlantic City between the two world wars. The real point of the show is the manner in which it recreates the America of the prohibition era. Even with Hindi films, directors feel a desire to caricature periods. The Dirty Picture takes a few familiar elements of the 1980s and then caricatures them and distorts them beyond recognition. Some directors can do this more successfully. Farah Khan made no great claims for authenticity but Om Shanti Om captured the Bombay of the 1970’s much better than anything that Milan Luthria has ever made.

One of the problems with Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, the new adaptation of the bestselling thriller, is that the director tries too hard to create a tone for the period. The book came out in 1974 and was turned into a BBC TV Series in 1979.

In 1979, directors did not feel that they needed to evoke a sense of period to tell a story that was only five years old. So, the TV version concentrated on the plot and the characterisation and treated the environment in a matter of fact manner. But the director of the TV version had 350 minutes to let events unfold. The director of the movie has only 130 or so minutes. So, there is a certain economy to the plotting. The author John LeCarre says that the script writers have tried to maintain the essence of his book. “It is like turning a whole cow into a stock cube,” he has explained.

I have no problems with the script of Tinker Tailor though I have to say that unless you have read the book or watched very closely you may miss some of the nuances of the plot. The end will certainly seem too abrupt and much too jarring.

My problem is with the director’s efforts at evoking a sense of period. While the TV show was made by Brits for an audience of Brits, the movie is the work of a Scandinavian director making a picture for an international audience. So he has no real feel for England in the Seventies. And he is working on the assumption that his audience will be as clueless. The world of Tinker Tailor is one of rain and bleakness. England is portrayed as a dark, miserable place and everything has a slightly down at heel air about it. When the bleakness cannot be conveyed in any other way, the film relies on lighting that is so dark that you have to squint at the screen to find out what is happening.

I can live with a self conscious sense of period. I can live also with shots that are needlessly dark and moody. I can even live with the sparseness of dialogue that characterises much of the film. (perhaps England was so poor in the Seventies that they could not afford conversation.)

But what upset me when I saw the film last week was that the director’s determination to evoke a sense of period had robbed the story of the interplay between the characters which is the hallmark of the original novel and of the TV series. Some of Britain’s best actors are in the movie, including Gary Oldman who takes on the role that Alec Guiness created and struggles manfully with the ghost of his predecessor. There is also Toby Jones who plays the new chief of the Secret Service like Truman Copote with a Scottish accent. And John Hurt camps it up as Control, the original boss of the service. Colin Firth is entirely wasted as what should be the most pivotal character in the story.

Regular readers of the blog will know that I have been looking forward to this film ever since it was first released in the UK some months ago. I have to say that I am enough of a fan to see any movie based on Le Carre’s George Smilely Novels, no matter how good or bad.

And this one isn’t bad. It’s just a little dull, slightly confusing and needlessly bleak. The Smiley of the books was described as the anti-Bond and so it is appropriate that this should be a serious film. What it should not be however is a Scandinavian art film made by a man with no feel for the England of that period.

But, sadly, that’s what we have ended up with.

(5 votes, average: 4.2 out of 5)

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Posted by Vir Sanghvi on Friday, January 6, 2012 at 7:03 pm
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Anonymous

@Zia, Pretty banal stuff , his dad was a closet jihadi though.Zakaria essentially says that the state of the islamic world is because of lack of democracy.That is half the story . The SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT ISLAMIC SOCIETIES need is to BECOME SECULAR AND FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
The rest will follow suit automatically

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Mohed Reply:
March 18th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
i think if true democracy comes, secularism and freedom of expression would follow automatically

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RajX Reply:
March 19th, 2012 at 3:44 am
Interesting. Why do you think that his dad is a closet jihadi?

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Abu Ahmed Reply:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:13 am
Dr. Rafiq Zakaria wrote a book in defense of the Quran when the Saffron terrorist Arun Shourie attacked the Holy Book in the 80s in the columns of the Indian Express – that perhaps is his crime in you view. Dr. Rafiq Zakaria was an Islamic scholar, an educationist who established many educational institutions and a Congress leader with the most secular of credentials. Only those who are extremists and terrorists themselves would call such a genteel, scholarly soul a closet terrorist.

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Anonymous Reply:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:26 am
Arun shourie is a dickhead and an islamophobe. But someone who wears the mantle of YOUNG BENGAL(read about the movement in wikipaedia) will find ZakariaSnr a clost jihadi.
Just like jehadis think ISLAM HAS ALL THE ANSWERS , yet need VIAGRA invented by RATIONAL SCIENCE, zakaria was trying to place the merits of islam above science, to me it is a sign of a clost jihadi

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Anonymous Reply:
March 19th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Arun Shourie is a mild mannered intellectual who buttresses his arguments with solid facts. To you he is a terrorist. If you can, you and your ilk should answer him with a reasoned argument. Not with threats like to Mr Rushdie. You may be enamoured of the Quran, others are not.

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Abu Ahmed Reply:
March 19th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Dr Zakaria did that, answering Shourie with a reasoned arguement in a book – only to be called a closet terrorist by Hindu extremist gangsters / bombers. Rushdie calls all religions a fiction – with that I have no problem – at least he is not calling Zakaria a terrorist.

Kumars1 Reply:
March 19th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Hindus extremists, Muslims genteel! I am speechless. I wonder what 9/11 and other victims will say.
Anonymous

This guy sided with the muslim attackers of Mumbai. He allout approved of and condoned the attack on Mumbai where nearly 200 people died at the hands of the muslims. Soon after he hosted a documentary sympatizing with the muslim attackers. He is a crook and scamp and should not be trusted. He continually degrades and bad mouth India on American television. Wahe up Indians, you have a maasive problem in your country where the muslims are seeking to destroy you – they side with the rest of the muslims world and not india.

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Anonymous Reply:
March 18th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Perhaps that is why Zia mian calls him a role model and icon.

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Hemant Shah Reply:
March 19th, 2012 at 2:28 am
You are patently wrong. He never condoned the attack. In fact, his documentary was a clear expose of Pakistan’s role in the attack. I watched it twice.

Get your facts right.

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RajX Reply:
March 19th, 2012 at 3:35 am
Not true. He played a part in the hbo documentary which exposed the chilling fanaticism involved in the way the mumbai attackers and their handlers operated. No Islamist will do that.

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Anonymous

Good. You can go on haj with him and the other role model and icon Zakir Naik.

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Zinda Hoon

“The Politics of Rage: Why Do They Hate Us, in the Newsweek in the aftermath of 9/11. It was delusional, he argued, to think that terrorists target America because they are simply insane. ”

Hate (or rather imagined hate) is a part of the Islamic Theology.

What is the explanation otherwise for destroying the various deities of Kaaba by Prophet Muahmmed if not his hatred towards the people who wouldn’t want to agree with him and his theories on how the Kaaba was built by Abraham. According to archaeological evidence, even the city of Mecca didn’t exist before 3-4th century AD forget about Mecca existing prior to that. So, Muhammed just imagined it in his mind and wanted others to believe it as well and flew into a stubborn confrontation when others refused to accept up is down and down is up.

This is the core of Islam. Every religion is a way to channelize/package some human aspect. “Original and orthodox” Islam packages/redirects the human emotion of “anger and hate” into violence directed disbelievers.

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Sumit Bose Reply:
March 19th, 2012 at 5:26 am
# Zinda Hoon, Kamal Attaturk summed up the Kuran most appropriately and most concisely:” The opinions of an immoral Arab sheikh”. Every blind-folded muslim should be aware of that. And every Musl1m of this sub-continent should be aware that there was a terrible incident of brutal choice that their ancestor had to make to ensure, his head is not separated from his body and the option to save his wife and children from slavery, that made them moslems. The ones with minimal education are just zombies who think they are pseudo-arabs.

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Abu Ahmed Reply:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Muhammad wanted to establish the worship of One Deity, the one without any form or shape. He unified all the warring tribes into one single nation, made racism inhuman and unlawful, stopped the exploitation of the poor by abolishing usury, raised the position of women socially, politically and economically by giving them rights still unheard of in many parts of the wrold including India… and there are hundred more reasons to respect that man and follow him as a leader. If you have any humanism left in you, you would respect him for his achievements at least. Only arrogant animals attack him the way you have done.

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Anonymous Reply:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:17 am
That your prophet or may be his followers ERASED all trace of PRE PROPHET ARABIA and consigned it as JAHILIA
IS AN ACT OF BARBARISM OF WHICH THERE ARE NO PARALLELS IN HISTORY

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Sumit Bose Reply:
March 19th, 2012 at 9:29 am
@ Abu, only an animal would consider a paedophile, mass-murderer, caravan-raider, ****** torturer. slave-merchant worthy of respect. He founded a cult that is based on hate and promised rewards in his version of heaven of 72 virgins, copious wines and 80,000 servants for all who are ready to die and kill for the sake of his cult. Just look all around the world right from Russia, Australia to Argentina, there are people inspired by those “teachings” to commit atrocities on innocent civilians. Just because you are out of that scope does not mean you should sit smug in your well of indifference.

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Zinda Hoon Reply:
March 19th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
I do find prophet Muhammed’s life and impact of Islam on the world absolutely fascinating and he is probably one of the most influential guys in the history of the world. I have spent hours and hours reading on it and I think I have some understanding about him and Islam. He was a narcissist first and foremost, read Quran 33.50.

You say there were “warring tribes” in Mecca. I have heard this before man a times because it is a part of Islamic folklore. Now apply tools of reason and critical thinking to it. If the tribes were warring, would their “gods or deities” exist together in one house of worship. In modern times, with all it’s emphasis of mutual tolerance, even 2 sects of the same religion don’t share their house of worship. In 7th century Mecca, all these tribes were sharing one house of worship for all their deities , so what does this tell you about their relationship, – peaceful co-existence and respect for each other’s gods or “warring with each other”. Apply reason to everything you know about Islam and question it.

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RajX Reply:
March 24th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
“He unified all the warring tribes” —> Just not true but its a nice narrative not supported by facts.

” raised the position of women socially, politically and economically ” —-> maybe not enough since in his arabia woman still can’t even drive and are institutionally discriminated by islamic law.

“giving them rights still unheard of in many parts of the wrold including India”
—-> Assuming that you are from the indian subcontinent, you should know more about your own society at that time before bad mouthing it in relation with a not so civilized tribal society like arabia. This is a classic example where people like you “seem” to know more about arabia than your own country. Sad situation is all i can say when someone bad mouths his own society while at the same time gloryfying a tribal society not based on facts but based on “theology” of distortions.

“there are hundred more reasons to respect that man and follow him as a leader”

Have you heard of this word called “thighing”? Do some research on this word and how it applies to Mohammed. If you are a rational person, you will know how respect worthy your “arabian idol” mohamad is.

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http://www.facebook.com/people/Hemant-Shah/100001469851306 Hemant Shah

When was this article written? Could you not have changed some of the references from back in 2005 or so? “Iraq is a rogue nation”? Really? Hasn’t the dust settled on that one? Even a cut and paste artist makes some editorial efforts before pushing out stuff.

That said, I share your admiration for Fareed Zakaria.

However, he is not just a role model for muslims. He is role model for any immigrant in USA. Indeed, he doesn’t identify himself as a muslim on any public forum, nor does anybody else (except of course some right wing nuts leaving comments on public blogs)

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RajX

Finally an article from zia with which I don’t have a problem with…almost. Zia calls zakaria right but the American right calls him left. He gets all the best knowledgable guests and his shows are generally informative because of that. Ah…one more thing. Maybe he succeeded because he didn’t wear his religion on his lapel and he has talent and did not restrict himself to looking at the world through a religious and ummah prism like our Zia…

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anil

I think there are no dearth of Zakarias in India but India chooses not to find or focus on them. For obvious votebanking reason it chooses to look at things from wrong end of the spectrum and gets what it deserves.

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RajX Reply:
March 24th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Thats true. The congress likes to deal with Bhukari and his ilk. They respect Bhukari more than they respect someone like zakaria because it suits their political ends to keep people dumb…like for example out Tejinder alias enrich.

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Sumit Bose

Fareed Zakaria is one the rarest of the rare persons who wears very lightly “the accident of his birth” in a family that is moslem. He does not make a living , wearing his “muslimness” on his sleeves. He never has an Islamic takkiya (lying) way of approaching facts, he is very sound on logic and given the constraints of dealing with islamic terrorism, does appear to go quite a distance. He has been quite categorical about Pakistan’s dubious role as the epicentre of Islamic Terrorism, he is, as yet, not an apologist.

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RajX Reply:
March 27th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Good one

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Anonymous

Are you a bramhin. Only a bramhin can make such stupid comments as yours. You are a bigger plonker than your post suggests.Would you care to watch MICHAEL MOORE’S FILM “SICKO”, or Homer Simpson In THE SIMPSONS.30%of AMERICANS DO NOT HAVE A HEALTH INSURANCE.
Insurance companies will not cover you for Pulmonary Embolism if you had suffered Deep Vein Thrombosis. But Pulmonary Embolism is the only major worry for someone with Deep Vein Thrombosis.
As regards ISRAEL Plaestanian conflici ISRAEL IS MAINLY TO BE BLAMED , palestanians are to be blamed for being a dickhead and not playing their cards right.
AMERICA IS IN THE POCKET OF JEWISH LOBBY
Read Academic work the THE AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY AND ISRAEL LOBBY BY CHICAGO PROFESSOR John Mearsheimer and HARVARD PROFESSOR Steven Walt.

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Anonymous Reply:
March 19th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Shan,
I agree with you on US health care system. The insurance companies have been ripping off people for decades now and on top of that fraud doctors overcharge for services thus driving up the cost of health insurance.

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Anonymous

If that was the case then the book by Chicago professor John Mersheimer and Harvard Professor Steven Walt called AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY AND ISRAEL LOBBY would not have been published.
That said AMERICA IS IN THE POCKET OF JEWISH LOBBY

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RajX Reply:
March 24th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Thankfully they are not in the pocket of the uncivilized islamist lobby like you. So they won’t be rooting for barbaric sharia like you anytime soon.:-)

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Anonymous

I have no problems whatsoever with APJ Abdul Kalam, Mohammed Rafi, Maulana Azad, etc. They are Arabic origin names. But I suspect you may have problems with Indian sounding names.

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Anonymous

You must watch Fareed Zakaria interviewing Anjem Chowdhary. Zakaria got so upset with loudmouth Anjem that he almost abused him on live TV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko0qQJMN_dk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1UFD2g3o6A

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Anonymous

@ Engrich

On the opposite end it has produced you. You should listen to Zakaria and change. Even if you become human late in life, you would have atoned for the past insanity in some measure. best wishes.

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Anonymous

@ Zia

If you write more articles on Muslims merging with the rest of humanity without wearing religion on their sleeves, you will actually create the right role models.

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http://www.facebook.com/people/Hemant-Shah/100001469851306 Hemant Shah

The precise point being made here is this that Zakaria is not a product of Islam. He may be (or may not be) a practicing muslim but that is just coincidental. At the best he could be called a product of Indian and American culture and education.

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Sumit Bose

I never cease to wonder why moslem apologists choose to reside in India, which is by the Islamic parameters a “dar-ul-harb”, they have extracted more than their pound of flesh , they should be in their ‘dar-ul-islam’ and keep on with their nefarious activities.

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azhar Hussain

I visit this blog from time to time to read, but never find anything different. The articles are different but the clowns on the forum are the same. Before I go on a tangent, lets talk about the topic at hand. It is what “Fareed Zakaria”, the guy who makes my American friends real happy. Why you say they are happy, because he speaks their language and say what they want to listen. He is a typical Indian who is stuck with Pakistani Islam Arab, and then Arab, Islam and Pakistan. The moment he opens his mouth against any thing Jewish or Israeli, all bets are off. All this sham of freedom of speech, opportunity that is the American Constitute is out. READ the blog everyone is ends up discussing Islam, where we could be talking about Cricket, opportunities in Muslim countries of Middle East ect ect. I got NEWS for all those badmouthing Islam.

Religion Total Natural (births) Conversions Growth
Christianity 25,210,195 22,708,799 2,501,396 1.36%
Islam 22,588,676 21,723,118 865,558 2.13%
Hinduism 12,533,734 13,194,111 -660,377 1.69%
Buddhism 3,687,527 3,530,918 156,609 1.09%
Sikhism 392,638 363,677 28,961 1.87%
Judaism 124,515 194, 962 -70,447 0.91%

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Sumit Bose Reply:
March 22nd, 2012 at 2:14 am
@Azhar, I assumed people who have had the benefit of secular english education would have been able to unshakle themselves from the tyranny of “mob psychology” and reflect on issues around them as rational beings.
Your putting this growth statistics is a clear pointer that you feel strong in a crowd and vapourize as an individual..There are millions of ants and insects in any wooded area, but few lions and tigers. The measure of any civilization or group today, is the number of Nobel prizes in science or number of patents that group is able to register annually. Right from Morrocco till Malayasia, one would require a very powerful microscope to find patents, if any, recorded annually.This comfort in a crowd is a pathetic mind-set that reflects Yasser Arafat’s famous quote to crush Israel: The Bomb and the Womb. For your kind information the largest number of muslim converts in the UK and USA are the prison inmates. not a bit surpriing, given the rewards promised in the “Holy BooK” for committing atrocites.

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azhar Hussain Reply:
March 22nd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
“The Bomb and the Womb. For your kind information the largest number of muslim converts in the UK and USA are the prison inmates. not a bit surpriing, given the rewards promised in the “Holy BooK” for committing atrocites.”

Sumit Bose, as far as inventions and Noble prizes go, yea you guys are leader of the pack. Look around you and see your average Indian as comapred to an average Muslim from Morrocco to Malayia. You will find one of your kind enjoying the life in more than one of those Muslim countries. And now coming to atrocities lets just cover the last century to make it say for you to understand. I will just cover where Muslims casualities and you kindly give me a tally of Non-Muslims killed by Muslims, sounds fare:

More than 150,000 killed in Iraq and millions displaced
More than 300,000 killed in Afghanistan by both USA and USSR and almost 6 million displaced
Thans to uncle Sam killing continues in Palestine
More than 100,000 killed in just Kashmir
Plus your daily dose of ethnic based riots in your country
Lets not forget Checniya

This is just our count, now tell me your rough count

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Sumit Bose Reply:
March 23rd, 2012 at 5:21 am
@Azhar, noted that you have no answer to my points of “mob mentality”, nor about techical or cultural accomplishments right from Morocco till Malaysia. The “non-msulims” working there are there because the locals lack those experstises.
it is incredulus that there can be any Indian feeling “aggreived” at moslem deaths in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.In our homeland so much blood has been shed before, during and after the partition. Moslems prior to the partition, thanks to the call of “Direct Action” by the Muslim League, went on a slaughtering spree, Want to know the enormity of the tragedy, over 350,000 slaughtered in Noakhali, Calcutta riots, nearly 50,000 killed, then there is the Lahore massacre, Rawalpindi , Quetta killings the list is endless, but it is futile ennumberating any of it to a psuedo-arab as you . Your mind is blinkered only to shed “tears” for Palestine, for Chechnya, Bosnia etc etc, you heart does not bleed for Indians suffering, or for any human suffering inflicted by the Copts in Egypt, Christians in Iraq, Lebanon, or Hindus in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh. I wonder why you are residing in this Dar-ul-harb, you would be so much delirious in your dar-ul-islam..I sincerely feel that your education has been a squandered resource.

RajX Reply:
March 27th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
The death count of Shias and Sunnis killing each other is on America’s shoulders? A brainwashed Islamist clown.

RajX Reply:
March 24th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Another moronic clown. Whats your point? That islamic countries have more freedom than america or india? If you think that way, you live in a islamist bubble. Fareed Zakaria very frequently criticizes israel and even invites some islamist nutters to the program just expose your nutter brothers. So maybe you have not watched his program and speaking out your arse. Another ummah clown.

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http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7XVK6BRUJHTBJCDMA6YSIFBUBE Suresh BV Bharadwaj

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Sumit Bose

The Pakistanis have a lot to celebrate, please dont overlook the hard fact that they have been able to either slaughter/send packing almost 32% of their total , ( “kaffirs”) population who were Hindus/Sikhs. They are successful (with brutal violence) turning this part of India in to a Dar-ul-Harb”. They are able to impose the Shari ah, is that by any means any insignificant feat? They must now sit in the stew-pot that they have so passionately created, but what they hell, they are all going to get their 72 virgins, 80,000 servants.etc etc

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Sumit Bose Reply:
March 23rd, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Opps, sorry, it should read Dar-ul-Islam !

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RajX

Tejinder, Your “hopes” are not “facts”

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RajX

The exhindu Anjem represents islamist clowns, not the oppresed.

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Sumit Bose Reply:
March 26th, 2012 at 5:42 am
@RajX, This Anjem was no Hindu. He had got into medical school and failed in his first year a couple of times, moved to study law. Completed the course and made a living drawing state benefits of over UK P 24,000 annually and made a profession bashing daily the very system that feeds him, his wife and 4 children. A whole lot of people in UK are fuming that this empty-vessel earns more money in state assistance than soldiers fighting in the war for UK, and he takes his troupe of Jihadi nutheads to picket funerals of soldiers killed in action.

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Sumit Bose Reply:
March 26th, 2012 at 5:42 am
@RajX, This Anjem was no Hindu. He had got into medical school and failed in his first year a couple of times, moved to study law. Completed the course and made a living drawing state benefits of over UK P 24,000 annually and made a profession bashing daily the very system that feeds him, his wife and 4 children. A whole lot of people in UK are fuming that this empty-vessel earns more money in state assistance than soldiers fighting in the war for UK, and he takes his troupe of Jihadi nutheads to picket funerals of soldiers killed in action.

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RajX

Take his advice. Listen to Fareed zakaria and civilize yourself. Maybe you will even be civilized enough to leave the arab cult. Who knows….

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RajX

J and Z are not the same in english. Different alphabets. But your post is good. I agree with you other than the Jakaria part.

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RajX

You don’t understand. Modi and Thackeray are usefull in situations where your monsters come of the islamist gutter and burn people up. So you got to fight monsters with monsters. Atleast the two monsters you mentioned won’t betray the country and take orders from abroad/ ummah like you and your brotherly islamists.

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RajX

What sort of an idiot are you? You don’t sound like an average Fareed Zakaria fan who generally have better IQ’s than average. You sound moronic. And please don’t tell anyone you are a fared zakaria fan. Thats an insult to fareed zakaria.

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RajX

to what?

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RajX

Are you saying that people are not allowed to have problems with people with arab sounding names? I am a fan of fared zakaria too but you yourself appear to be a little arabized based on what you just said.

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Anonymous

Engrich,
Happy Pakistan day to you and taliban.

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RajX

“your forefathers”??? Are you telling me that you are of Arab, Turkish or Persian invaders descent? Seriously? So you converted your race too? Or are you saying that you are a bast&rd child of the invaders? If that’s trueg, you are a foreigner and you should go back where your “fore fathers” came from.

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RajX

Why is he two faced? He has to be honest since he is a commentator. He has to bad mouth India if that’s where logic leads. Don’t you think there are many things in India which deserves some bad mouthing?

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