Fear the middle class



I don’t know how many of you are old enough to remember the Mandal movement. If you are, then forgive me because you probably know most of this already. But for those of you who were kids in 1990/91 when the movement was at its peak, here is a brief recap.

In 1989, VP Singh was swept to power on a tide of middle-class support. VP Singh’s party got nothing like a majority. In fact, the defeated Congress won twice the number of seats that he had. But because the Congress had lost its overall majority and because it was generally felt that VP Singh had captured the imagination of the urban middle-class, his party took office anyway, its minority status notwithstanding. Both the Left and the BJP agreed to support VP Singh’s government from outside thereby giving him the majority he needed.

This was an inherently unstable government. You can’t really survive in office for very long when each action has to win the approval of both the BJP and the Left, parties that are historically (if not hysterically) at odds with each other. Moreover, VP Singh’s own party was not united behind him. His own deputy Prime Minister, Devi Lal, wanted to topple him and there were powerful dissidents like Chandra Shekhar outside the Cabinet.

Recognising that his support within the middle class would not see him through his term because of the unstable nature of his government, VP Singh suddenly changed gears. He announced that his government would implement the long-pending report of the Mandal Commission, which extended the principle of reservation (in jobs, in educational institutions and elsewhere) beyond tribals and Dalits to encompass so-called Backward Castes.

The middle class regarded this is as a betrayal. The government responded by saying that only 40,000 government jobs would be affected by the move. Many of us disagreed. I remember writing many articles on the subject at that time. My point was that the number of jobs was irrelevant. It was the principle that mattered.

All of us generally agreed – to varying degrees – that there was a case for time-bound reservation for tribals and Dalits. But VP Singh’s proposals went beyond tribals and Dalits – who had certainly suffered at the hands of upper castes – and included a variety of other castes, many of whom did not seem to have suffered at all.

The point, I wrote at the time, had to do with our vision of India. Did we want an India where merit would be paramount? Or did we want one where merit was frequently elbowed aside in favour of reservation? More importantly, I wrote, the vision of our founding fathers was that caste would become irrelevant over time. By making so much dependent on caste, VP Singh had reversed the forces of history. Now, everybody would need to know his or her caste. It wasn’t the 40,000 jobs that worried me, it was the return of caste to centre-stage.

Those of us who have seen the outpouring of public anger over the lok pal bill and also remember the anti-Mandal agitation will concede that the current upsurge, no matter how powerful, lacks the power and intensity of the anti-Mandal protests. In those days, no middle-class person ever spoke of anything else. Schools and colleges closed down as students took to the streets. Then, a more worrying trend began. Young people started immolating themselves to protest the Mandal recommendations. Each day’s front page would bring a new photo of some teenager immolating himself, another young life gone up in flames.

Despite the intensity of the protests and despite his transformation from middle-class messiah to public enemy number one, VP Singh did not relent. He went ahead with the implementation of further reservation. Shockingly, the entire political establishment only paid lip service to the protests and backed VP Singh’s proposals.

When VP Singh’s government fell, in 1990, it was not over Mandal but over LK Advani’s Rath Yatra. As I had predicted, VP Singh’s agenda transformed India forever. Caste, which had been receding in political importance till then, suddenly became the single-most important factor at election time. All agitations began to be framed in caste terms. Parties that were based almost entirely on caste coalitions (the Samajwadi Party, the BSP, Laloo’s mob, etc.) hijacked politics in the cow belt. Because these parties won elections only on the basis of caste coalitions, they did not worry about providing good governance when in office. They knew that, whatever happened, they could count on vote banks based on caste.

I recall all this to make a comparison with the current lok pal agitation. I don’t think that there is anyone who can argue that caste conflict is less of a threat than government corruption. And it is possible to claim that a fundamental change in how caste affects India is more important in the long run than two competing drafts of a lok pal bill.

But here’s my point: the Anna Hazare movement has brought this government to its knees. The anti-Mandal movement, on the other hand, achieved nothing. VP Singh did not relent and did not concede even an inch to the protestors. Despite the inherent instability of his government, neither the BJP nor the Left withdrew support on this issue – even as teenagers were burning themselves alive on the streets of our cities.

So, what’s made the difference? Why does the Hazare movement have the kind of power that the anti-Mandal agitation lacked? Why is it succeeding when the agitation against reservation failed?

There are two broad answers, both of them related. The first is that the middle class has now grown in numbers and confidence to the extent that it can no longer be ignored by the political establishment. In 1990, VP Singh was only too willing to kiss his middle-class supporters goodbye and to embrace the demon of casteism instead. What’s more, it did not do him any harm. His government survived.

In contrast, the Manmohan Singh government cannot possibly ignore popular middle class-led agitations. It has no choice but to negotiate with the leaders of civil society and cowers before their influence.

That’s the first reason. But there is also a second one: the way in which technology has transformed the media and empowered the middle class. In 1990, we only had Doordarshan and a handful of newspapers and magazines. Though many of us in the print media were viciously opposed to what VP Singh was doing, our influence was limited. And the country’s only TV network, Doordarshan, functioned as the lapdog of the government.

Technology ended Doordarshan’s monopoly. The satellite channels which came to India a couple of years after Mandal changed the rules of the television game. Today, satellite TV has become one of the most important mediums for the middle class to discuss its concerns. And the TV channels have kept the Anna issue alive, day after day.

Then, there is the Internet. The lok pal movement has used the web more effectively than any movement before it. Millions of Internet users have been contacted by Hazare’s volunteers. Twitter has become the debating platform for those who have strong views on the progress of the movement.

And even the telecom revolution has helped. Awareness of the movement and its objectives has been spread by using text messages.

We are now in a situation where the middle class has found a way around its political irrelevance. Yes, middle-class voters cannot swing elections. Yes, politicians derive their power from the millions of Indians who do not have computers or mobile phones.

But whereas in 1990, the middle class’ political irrelevance crippled the effectiveness of the anti-Mandal agitation, the power of media has changed all the rules in 2011. When the middle class is agitated, it can organise itself and ensure that it is heard. And the politicians have no choice but to sit up and take notice.

The stupid, contrary, inept and often dishonest responses of politicians to the lok pal agitation demonstrate how out of touch they are. They still live in a past where it was possible to ignore the middle class and its concerns because of the mathematics of electoral political. Faced with this onslaught of civil society outrage, they have simply not known how to react.

But as the events of the last week show us, the rules have changed. Ignore the middle class, ignore its concerns, ignore the growing power of mainstream and social media and you risk coming across as a bunch of effete idiots.

Sadly, that is a lesson that this government has failed to learn.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Well said..Things would improve only when more educated middle class youth are given tickets to fight an election. This initiative can be taken by only Rahul Gandhi, for he has a host of educated middle class youth around him. Lets see…

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    Bob Reply:

    That son of Italy should be send back to his native land. He is a black eye on the Indian political map who has failed to do any substantial things after get elected. He has not shown up at most of the parliamentary hearings. The only reason he is in power is b’coz congress has become a pet of his mom. Both of them should be send packing their backs to Italy.

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    udayan gokhale Reply:

    What was Mr. Gandhi doing while Anna was battering at the gates of the ruling coalition, of which he has been proclaimed the heir apparent? He was in Maval with his tail between his legs mouthing cliches that what happened there was wrong. Has he taken any action or caused any steps to be taken against his own party government which perpetrated the crime against unarmed fleeing protesters? He has been silent throughout this time, unable to respond to a national movement, showing no leadership qualities whatsoever and you think that he is the right choice to lead this country! Where is the youth following that you claim he has? Not a single person from any walk of life has supported him in leading a counter protest of any sort, or to save his family’s name which is being bandied about in the most vile terms.

    We have had enough of the Nehru Gandhi clan, who should go now, along with their psycophants, unless they stop behaving like they have inherited from the British, the right to rule this country.

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    MarkSmith Reply:

    Only by Rahul Gandhi? Are you even serious? That idiot does has no view on any major national issue. All he is busy with is spending nights at some some village.

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    Prabhat Reply:

    @ Marksmith

    There is a difference between grassroot and armchair approach. You should be glad he is spending time in some some village.

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    rajiv banerjee Reply:

    Virji , good to see you reporting on actuals / neutral and intelectual . we the readers had written u off as a congress stooge . your last columns were like manoj tiwari and digvijay’s nonsence . be the professional you are . I am not sure if the media is helping , they are just projecting a event and desparately trying to feed the protesters they do not know what is happning and the danger of lok pal . if you see the questions they ask the people . media says , they are here for anna and does not know more . that is sad . it is like if u do not know english then u r not educated . we do not need to know the details. we know 65 years we have been looted by our neo elected masters . they will not do anything that will end corruption of bring back the black money . Anna is a common man with NO political ambition and he has a team of dedicated people working for the country . we support them unconditionally . we need not know more than this . for the first time we have leader we can trust . tell me in the last 8 years milk price has gone up 3 times and the production has remained SAME . what happened to the millions spent on Dairy development board . they were playing in IPL ? or staying in Lavasha ? people have valid questions and govt has to respond . jai hind anna hazare !! Politicians will come and go , don’t sell your professional self for our dirty politics . u write well . thx .

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    raj101 Reply:

    a host of educated middle class youth around him
    —- where ? , iam yet to see them. its mostly congress members son & daughters. other wise flanked by digvijay & other cham cha. am yet to see him in public funtions surrounded by normal people. forget the photo op you see from staying with dalit family in UP.

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    Ravi Krishnamoorty Reply:

    Chase congress away and get rid of the Gandhi dynasty– India will progress. Rahul will only worsen the situation.

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  • Rajan

    Your observations are quite true, but being a very seasoned and senior journalist, we were expecting your views on the Jan lokpal bill. You have stated facts and truths, noted diferrences between mandal and Lokpal agitations, but Vir, where do you stand? Can you openly discuss that or are you afraid to publicly state your position????

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    Irfan Reply:

    Good question Rajan… Where do you think Vir stands after barkhaGate ?

    http://satyamshot.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/the-barkha-duttvir-sanghi-controversy/

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    Ashuvir Reply:

    He is afraid of losing his pocketmoney.

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    HPN Reply:

    Ditto to Rajan’s questions.

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  • http://sid-ideas.blogspot.com/ Siddharth

    I agree with your article through, except for your assertion that it was only for V P Singh that we had reservation system coming in place. There had been talks for long about it, with several commissions submitting their reports. There was a vacancy available, V P Singh , sensed the opportunity and lathed on to it. Well, my views are based on history textbooks, so I could be wrong, yet, as far as I know and understand caste reservation, I feel you have bit exaggerated it.

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  • Dr.V.Sharma

    It’s true media has generated much interest and awareness among us for Lokpal bill.We are all victims of mis governance at one or another place.Now media has given us a forum to address our concerns and we feel better heard.
    Also when you speak about VP Singh, he was one of the worst PMs India ever had!
    Manmohan Singh is a much better human being.The scams and scandles came to lime light and the culprits are now being tried in courts.So some transparency has started to emerge in ruling government.
    Another congress telecom minister Sukh Ram Sharma was never jailed properly and dared to float his own party.He lived lavishly with what he earned during his tenure as telecom minister.In other words scams were all hidden and whenever exposed immediately suppressed by the ruling party.
    The central goverments never tried and jailed Laloo for his infamous fodder scam.
    Besides introducing Lok pal bill we need to make stricter criteria for any candidate to contest elections.People with pending significant court cases,criminal backgrounds,involvement in corruption should be made ineligible to contest any election.
    There should be a code of conduct in place for MPs and MLAs.If they ,misuse their power or misuse public funds then they should have a life long ban on contesting any election,imprisoned for 10 years and asked to pay a substantial financial penalty.

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    Shekhar Reply:

    What BS you are saying- that MMS is a good man!! Under his very nose those people looted India. It is only when the congress was pushed to a wall by media and public that Raja, Kalmadi et al were put behind bars. What about the other congress jokers who are out scott free who made tons of money (Sonia, Rahul etc)??? And call me cynical, but MMS must have his pockets full too !

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  • Virat Kohli

    Vir Sanghvi, Barkha Dutt and other corrupt people in the media should be put under the Lokpal.

    It’s official.

    Day 5: Ramlila Maidan = Tahrir Square from Cairo, Egypt. The Ramlila Maidan is the focal point for the Indian Revolution of 2011. My fellow countrymen, we must get at least a million people at Ramlila Maidan by next week. The number of peaceful protesters will increase minute by minute, hour by hour, and day by day, until we get into the millions. Once we are in the millions of peaceful protesters, the govt will be forced to pass the Jan Lokpal Bill (or they will be toppled like Hosni Mubarak was in Egypt). Down with corruption!!!! Go India go!!

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    Sid Reply:

    One more vital reason, which Singvi missed is – during the Madal implementation days, Amitabh Bacchan had become the popular angry young man of silver screen to take the system all by himself so most middle class members were waiting for one such real life angry man to take on VP Singh. But this did not happen, also BJP let the midle class down very badly. Many middle class people like me confronted the situation by emigrating out – even now most NRI’s can never forgive VP Singh for his ill conceived timing & plans to implement Mandal commission!

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  • Prashant Saxena

    As a student who witnessed the Mandal agitation at AIIMS at close quarters, I disagree with both reasons you have provided for the failure of that movement.
    The most important reason that movement fizzled out was the lack of a central figure that would hold the attention of the masses and direct the movement. And second was that no segment of the polity supported it at all.
    This movement is supported by the BJP that provides it with some organizational basis, and it has prominent citizens like Ms Bedi and Mr Kejriwal helping organize it.

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  • udayan gokhale

    Instead of just fasting, the time has come for an openly broadcast debate between both protagonists of the LOKPAL/JAN LOKPAL Bill which needs to be really effective in preventing the kind of loot that politicians and bureaucrats have perfected over the years. There are many learned people who can participate on either side of the debate which will help put matters into proper perspective. We have seen live broadcasts of parliament over the last few days and it is really very disappointing to see empty seats behind whoever is addressing it. So, leaving this subject to be debated by our parliamentarians is an exercise in futility. They really do not care what happens or is said there.

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  • Selvan

    Did you get any money for writing this?.

    Anti Mandal agitation is done by the upper castes and the issue did not find support from the overwhelming majority, so it failed.

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  • Harpreet

    Dear Vir
    I am too dissappointed with everyone calling the whole thing as a movement of middle class . Mandal commission movement was surely a middle class movement but corruption affects all of us ….anna’s movement is every Indian’s movement….only difference is all indians do not hv means to to be heard (read facebook, twitter)

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  • A Non-Upper Caste Hindu

    This article states “The middle class regarded this is as a betrayal” when reservation extended from Dalit/Tribal to OBC. Hindus consist of Upper Caste, OBC, and Dalit/Tribal. Hence, Mr. Author is clearly but indirectly saying that “Middle Class” is nothing but Upper Caste members. He must be 90% right as i am sure Dalits and OBC do not share the pie of Middle class more than 10% even after 64 years of our Independence! Anti-Mandal agitation had to fail as described by the author.
    Let’s talk about anti-corruption- my only question to all this drama or nautanki is “does this corruption come outside of India? or by some angrez or any foreigner? why are we just targeting politicians- are the only 552 people among 1.2 billion corrupt?
    Corruption is within us, inside each and every indians. we born with it and we live with it. you pay bribe when traffic police catch you without licence, you pay bribe to when TT catch you without ticket etc etc..
    Politicians are just the middle man. Main culprit and the biggest beneficiaries of corruption is Corporate which is funding the media, and all these news manufactured on their father’s direction.
    No matter what happens but noone should be allowed to go above the parliament and constitution. If it is “Jantantra” as self proclaimed civil society claiming, they must remember that they should not try to achieve their hidden goals in the name of “Jantantra” as Jantantra just not consists of 90% of all middle class members- rest 80% of indian population are also “Jan” of this Bhartiya tantra. Jai Hind.

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  • Sinchan Mitra

    Such a blatantly biased view arguing the case of the forward castes in the guise of national interest! You may or may not like it, but the statistics clearly suggest that the OBC’s are clearly a lot backward than the upper castes. In fact, the condition of many OBC’s is not much better than Dalits at all. In the latest NSS Survey, 8% of Dalits have tertiary education, while the figure is 13% for OBC’s and 21% for forward castes. Even if you look at household income and poverty from well regarded national surveys, the OBC’s are a lot worse off than forward castes. And it would be quite dishonest to argue that the backwardness of OBC’s have nothing to do with caste. Some myths may be popular among upper caste people like you, because they serve your self interest – that has nothing to do with facts. The Indian urban middle class is 65-70% upper caste, even though this social group constitutes less than 25% of our population. How can we correct such massive underrepresentation of socially disadvantaged groups without drastic affirmative action programs?

    Oh ok – bring out all the cliched arguments against reservation! Merit, huh? Cateless society, huh?! Who wants a castelesss society here? Do you care to know about the horrendous atrocities against Dalits that are perpetrated even today in rural India? Untouchability, a particularly dehumanzing form of discrimination practiced against the Dalits by caste Hindus continues to be well entrenched in many parts of rural India. Talk to some Dalits and find out what they have to face even today. How many of you upper caste people will have a heart attack even today if your daughter or sister is marrying a Dalit? You guys are reminded of a casteless society whenever we discuss affirmative action – in all other contexts, you will shamelessly defend your caste prejudices.

    Look, given that you are upper caste, you are free to defend the interests of your caste fellows as best as you can. Just don’t give me this **** about national interest. And just don’t pretend that you are above it all as an objective observer. You are playing to the sentiments and prejudices of upper caste Hindus – who are your people.

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    ishwar Reply:

    Dalits and OBCs are different.

    So what was your arguement again?

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  • rajiv banerjee

    Virji , good to see you reporting on actuals . we the readers had written u off as a congress stooge . your last columns were like manoj tiwari and digvijay’s nonsence . be the professional you are . I am not sure if the media is helping , they are projecting a event . if you see the questions they ask the people . why r u here to start and walk him to a place where the media says , he is here for anna and does not know more . that is sad . it is like if u do not know english then u r not educated . we do not need to know the details. we know 65 years we have been looted by our neo elected masters . they will not do anything that will end corruption of bring back the black money . Anna is a common man with NO political ambition and he has a team of dedicated people working for the country . we support them unconditionally . we need not know more than this . for the first time we have leader we can trust . tell me in the last 8 years milk price has gone up 3 times and the production has remained SAME . what happened to the millions spent on Dairy development board . they were playing in IPL ? or staying in Pune ? people have valid questions and govt has to respond . jai hind anna hazare !!

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  • http://www.pcbdesignxxillence.com Puspraj

    My first observation is that what Mr. Sahagvi is doing on HT. We have still not forgotten what he has done in the past by being a broker in Congress circles.
    First you should be corruption free in you mind , body and soul then start blogging. I feel pity on HT that they are still not able find a good , righteous and honorable person for this blogging and they are hanging on a scrupulous person like Mr Shagvi.

    Mr. Shagvi please devout your time and energy in Travels and doing brokering. You are a shame on Journos.

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  • Akash

    Vir,
    Please don’t bombard us with your inane theories. Have some shame. Please.

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  • Anjana

    This is not your subjest, since you don’t belong to that class. Writing on this subject either you are fooling the middle class or insulting tham. Better you write about food, five-star hotel, celebrity, erc.

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    Prabhat Reply:

    @ Anjana

    i am quite amused by your infatuation !

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    raj101 Reply:

    i agree, vir doesnot belong to middle class, he belongs to the class of media which fly with PM on their foreign tours. he can never talk against the govt in power as he may miss the next trip.
    he completely forgot to mention the scams, (2G radia , sanghvi tapes) which triggered and anna appeared around same time.
    during mandal we could still see face of vp.singh & co on first page. but now sonia is in usa, rahul appears in pune blaming police officers, pm not seen, and there is power vacuum, congress puts people like digvijay, PC, renuka, ambika and other old hands who could not handle the new middle class.
    vir is trying to make a comeback. we are tired of this congress cham cha.
    go back and do what you are good at – modi & bjp bashing., some time cooking.

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  • Prabhat

    V P Singh is one of the reason why I look for hidden agendas in most of the politicians. His public assertions about carrying the secret code to the swiss a/c in his pocket was one of the biggest manipulation of public psych I have ever come across. Governments have come and gone ( including NDA’s ), I am still waiting for that swiss a/c details.

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    raj101 Reply:

    politicians open and only agenda is to be in power as long as possible.
    vp singh with swiss a/c details is same as = mani shanker iyer who said he will develop his constituent into next singapore. both liars. you should be naive to believe it. if they say we will build hospital, we know he will get kick back, but at least hospital will be built, which is possible.

    this cong govt want to implement sachar committee report for muslim votes. think they will do it during the end of 2013 to confuse people during next election, and show bjp is against muslims.

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    ishwar Reply:

    @ Prabhat

    Do you also look for hidden agenda(s) when:
    a) A prince travels in a Mumbai local for a day
    b) The same prince sleeps overnight in some dalit house

    c) When a lawyer minister says there was zero loss in 2G scam
    d) When the incumbent PM says Muslims have the first right to the resources of this nation

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    Prabhat Reply:

    @ Ishwar

    I do.

    Till I convince myself of their sincerity and continuity in their approach.

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    ishwar Reply:

    @ Prabhat,

    I hope you don’t mean their sincere and continuous effort in fattening their Swiss account book.

    Even a vegetable vendor or a rickshaw-puller understands that the “hafta” that he has to pay goes all the way up. Extending the same logic, I would be surprised that when an independent MLA turned CM of Jharkhand can gobble 4000 crores and a telecom minister can make significantly more in 2G, nothing ends up in the Swiss accounts via 10 Janpath.

    Prabhat Reply:

    @ Ishwar

    Sooner you get rid of your obsession with Sonia Gandhi, better it is for you and your party. A “Videshi mahila”,housewife, reluctant, inexperienced politician could do in few weeks what your so called natural, Indian born, experienced macho group of politicians could not do for years. She walked in and beat all these leaders hollow. Stop blaming her for the incompetency of your leaders. Time you found a leader worth talking about amongst you and stopped deriding her.

    ishwar Reply:

    @ Prabhat

    Yes, I concede that we were defeated in the general elections. That doesn’t mean that our leaders are incompetent. One of the major reasons of the UPA’s win two years back was their smart manipulation of the print/electronic media. We were outsmarted by the queen’s move to rule the nation by proxy sans any responsibility. The same media would work against you this time – I am sure you can see the writing on the wall.

    Prabhat Reply:

    @ Ishwar

    You still attribute the incompetency of leaders to Sonia and Media factor. Why don’t you figure out it’s your leaders who let you down and then attributed to EVM or Media for their failure. Your leaders take swipe at others to hide their own incompetency. Stop living in denials.

    I am still waiting for that “September” when Vajpayee was supposed to make a comeback as per his favourite astrologers.

    By the way, Sonia Gandhi perhaps works harder than any of your leader during non-election years by engaging NGO’s and providing feedback to the Govt.

    Ask your leaders to stop talking c rap about Sonia Gandhi and declare what they can do to fulfill your aspirations . Else, ask them to take political sanyaas at Varanasi and allow new crop leaders to come up.

    ishwar Reply:

    @ Prabhat

    Your queen won’t even find a place in Varanasi. She would run away to their place of birth.

    Can you deny the fact that her name appeared in the Indian voter’s list even before she had surrendered her Italian Passport?

    And as far as Sonia’s working harder is concerned, I only care about the results. Are you suggesting that if it was not for her hard work, we would have been any worse off?

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    @ Ishwar

    I guess she has done enough for the family and the party. We can not fault her as a mother or the Party President. She has achieved in few years more than many politicians would dream of achieving in their lifetime.

    You know Ishwar! Many children use similar language about their parents too ! They wonder if they would have been any worse off had their parents not worked hard for them ! It’s difficult to answer. You are the best judge.

    ishwar Reply:

    @ Prabhat,

    She has of course done a lot for her family and the party. Let them be grateful to her.

    It has been my pleasure talking to you though.

  • Dr.Upendra Gami

    While I agree to the reasons given by Vir Sanghvi about the differnce between Mandal agitation and Anna’s agitation, I feel the main reason is that while there were anti and pro Reservation groups, there are no Anti Corruption groups and hence there is no dilution of the impact. Costitution was reffered to that had provision for reservation for ST/SC, quite conveniently skipping what percentage and for how long was it mentioned. For more than forty years successive Governments(mostl headed by Congress) had ignored this and not thought of uplifting this section of population, what had suddenly changed except the political compulsion.
    On the other hand entire population is affected by corruption and only those who form the Government or are Goevrnment servants are beneficiaries of corruption and even they cannot openly oppose anti corruption campaign and say that ‘I want corruption to continue’, although he may wish so. So those who want to oppose this are taking refuge in saying that The Parliament is supreme and it has been insulted by Anna and his team. Have they not insulted the Parliament by denying a constitutional right to protest by a civilian? Has not the behaviour of these parliamentarians (throwing mikes and fighting and abusing each other) insulted the Parliament? If it was against parliamentary norms to discuss private draft why in the first place did they form a joint drafting committee?
    The entire system needs to be changed and People’s opinions must be heard and incorporated in all bills, specially those that affect them in their daily life. Enough is enough, the arrogance and dictatorial attitude of the Government will not be tolerated anymore.

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    abhi Reply:

    “Costitution was reffered to that had provision for reservation for ST/SC,”

    Too bad, the constitution has no provision for corruption!

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  • Ravi Krishnamoorty

    Virji
    At last you have come to your senses. Give up your Pro Congress stance. Be a true professional that you used to be a decade ago. Good name ,self respect and being a true professional alone will last till your life time. Don’t be enamored by the goodies given by Congress. You will get better things in life if you follow your dharma, which is being truthful. All the best.

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  • Balwinder Sandhu

    Prabhat well said above.
    Vir sanghvi- nice article but you missed one obvious point- mandalisation- IT HAD TO HAPPEN- ONE WAY OR ANOTHER- the OBCs had to rise. The Mayawatis and Mulla Yadavs would rise and this is because it is natural history of India that sonner or later, esp if resources are limited, that desperate people would fight for slice of cake.
    I am forward caste SIKH but say that reservation is needed for some. And yes it has sociologically changed India
    sure it was handled badly, we saw cream of SC ST OBC getting reservation immorally, it divided INDIA on caste lines- but given the tortured history and dispossession of India for centuries – IT HAD TO HAPPEN

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  • Rajesh

    These RSS/BJP/TOI trolls just cannot discuss the topic at hand. They just pollute the entire discussion with their vileness.

    The issue here is the relative success/failure of the two agitations. I believe that the present agitation is more successful because (a) the issue raised touches more people (b) it has a central figure to lead it; (c) the Government is weak and is giving a lot of ammunition to the movement to succeed; (d) the media – tv, internet etc. is playing a vital role in publicising it. However, I don’t think it is like the Middle East movements for freedom — India is free. It is a democracy. It is relatively well off with a high growth rate. Its middle class is 400m strong. So lets not compare this agitation with Tahrir square – there is no comparison at all.

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    ishwar Reply:

    @Rajesh,

    You could have said the same thing without the preface – so that makes you no saint.

    And there is another reason which you have deliberately hidden i.e. cases of massive level of corruption have been made public.

    I love these two words – 2G and CWG. So easy!!

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    sanjay mittal Reply:

    @ Vir Sanghvi

    Though your comaprison of Anna with VP SIngh is interesting, it does not provide the answers. Clearly Anna and his team are not saying that they will stand for elections. The issue of corruption is indeed emotive and bound inspire most of India which is sick of dalals and corrupt bureaucrats and Minister.

    To top it the UPA standing committe on the LokPal has such clean characters like Amar Singh Dalal and Lalu.

    Now whom do you expect the public to support? :D

    On the whole the UPA has lacked a choerent strategy to tackle Anna.

    First it tried its standard ploy to paint him as corrupt… and failed :D
    Then it tried to paint him as communal… the terminlogy being that Let supporter like Digvijay is secular and even a smile at a RSS worker makes you communal. The UPA failed here too. :D D

    I think it is using all the corporate, high paid lawyers to tackle an emotional, earthy Inidan. It is about pitching the East Indian comapny against Gandhi.

    The UPA will fail… totally..

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  • http://Web.de N Sharma

    Anna and his team should know, bribes and power misuse are Not the only corruption issues.

    The causes are our concept of big parties on weddings Dowry System leading to child marriages

    Casteism leading to Honor killings Black money generated in each sale of property (even a DDA flat in

    Delhi is changing hands for over one crore of rupees 70% in Black Money) Admissions in Schools,Colleges and some professional private colleges going for several lakhs ,every Public dept.
    Police,municiple corporations etc.

    Dear Anna , you will fail if you are only looking for a stronger Lok Pal and not making people more responsible towards the evil in our society and asking for not their backing but honest commitment.

    What do you say when Maya Wati says she supports your Movement ?

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  • abhi

    “Doordarshan, functioned as the lapdog of the government.”

    Much like the CBI of today. This government likes lapdogs!

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  • Dr Mishra, UK

    Vir, nice linking of two different historical events.
    I would go a step further- just like the Mandal commission divided India along caste lines forever, the Communal Bill of NAC will do similar damage.

    @Prabhat- that was a brilliant reminder of VP Singh’s playing to the gallery – ‘ carrying the secret code to the swiss a/c in his pocket was one of the biggest manipulation of public psych ….. Governments have come and gone, I am still waiting for that swiss a/c details’

    @Balwinder- your remark about the small benefit of Mandalisation is very provocative- ‘ mandalisation- IT HAD TO HAPPEN- ONE WAY OR ANOTHER- the OBCs had to rise……And yes it has sociologically changed India ‘

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  • Ramesh Talwani

    WHY NOT FDI IN MEDIA?HT WILL BE WIPED OUT?

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  • http://profiles.google.com/pvariel P V Ariel

    Its really interesting to note that
    Our Fauji’s are now under
    fire within the boundaries.
    How sad and sorry state it is.
    Where the ordinary can find peace
    Is a big question left out now!!!

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  • http://twitter.com/rajeshdipti Rajesh thakkar

    How Far Can Politicos go….The day is not far when the Army take cudgels in their hand and cleanse the political system…shall b a sad day but befitting in present environment…

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