Compensating our MPs



The Union Cabinet decided on Monday to put off approving a hike in the salaries of MPs and ministers. This was something of a surprise because the measure had all party support and the hike was widely regarded as a done deal. And outraged MPs created hell in Parliament as a consequence.

The Cabinet refused to go along with the consensus after a group of ministers cautioned that, in the present climate, ministers and MPs right seem too greedy if they voted themselves a salary hike. “What’s the big hurry?” asked some ministers. As usually happens when there is a divergence of views in the Cabinet, no decision was reached and the matter was deferred.

Whenever politicians vote themselves a hike, the media are always critical. We make the valid point that unlike the rest of us who are dependent on our bosses for salary reviews, MPs depend on nobody. If they want to raise their own salaries they bring a bill before parliament and pass it. Nobody else needs to be consulted.

Consequently, each time MPs or ministers hike their salaries they face a barrage of criticism. Nor is this phenomenon confined to India. Even in the UK, the remuneration of MPs is a subject of great concern, each pay rise is the subject of public outrage and last year, the country was rocked by a scandal over MPs expenses.

Given this background, you can see why the Union Cabinet was reluctant to risk the wrath of the media and by extension, the nation. As it is, things are not going too well for the government. Inflation remains a problem. Kashmir has exploded yet again. The Maoist menace rages unchecked. It staked a lot on a foreign policy initiative with Pakistan that has amounted to nothing. Each session of parliament is rocked by one scandal or another. Given this background, it is not difficult to see why the Cabinet decided that it did not want another controversy on its hands.

Except that I think that the Cabinet was wrong.

The Indian system of remunerating politicians is full of contradictions. For instance, ministers are paid less than middle level executives in the private sector (between Rs 50,000 to 65,000 or so) but are given vast perks. A ministerial bungalow in the heart of Delhi’s Lutyens zone (named after Edwin Lutyens who designed the capital) is given free of rent. But if market rent were to be charged, each bungalow would cost upwards of Rs 5 lakh per month in rent. Add the perks the cars, the free electricity etc. and you end up with another lakh or two per month — at least. So though ministers earn relatively low salaries, there are vast hidden extras that are never valid on.

So, it a lesser extent, is it with MPs. They earn much less, get smaller bungalows and flats and have fewer perks but the value of the perks far outweighs the actual take-home salaries.

Curiously, we are among the few democratic countries to follow such a system. In the UK for instance, a few ministers (the Prime Minister, the Chancellor of the Exchequer etc.) get government housing but the rest have to find their own accommodation. MPs do not get government housing. In the US, the President, the Vice President and perhaps, a few others, get government houses. The rest —members of the cabinet, senators, congressmen etc. —- have to make their own arrangements.

When it comes to perks, these are rigidly monitored. When a British Prime Minister goes to the Palace to resign, he can take his official car. But as soon as he has met the Queen and returned, the driver will say bye and tell him that he is no longer entitled to the car. A few years ago, British MPs opted for a system of reimbursable expenses over a pay rise (fearing a public backlash if salaries were hiked.) Because the expenses were to be claimed in lieu of income, parliament adopted a liberal attitude towards passing claims. But when the details of these expenses were revealed by the press, there was a national outcry and some ministers resigned while many MPs were forced to stand down.

In the UK and the US, they follow a system of paying politicians relatively well but of denying them perks. This has many advantages. If ministers are paid at least as much as senior executives in the private sector, then they have no reason to take money from businessmen. At present, ministerial salaries in India are so low that unless ministers have private incomes (as P Chidambaram, Jyotiraditya Scindia, V Krishna and a few other do), they have difficulty maintaining their households. There are ministers who are scrupulously honest (AK Antony, Manmohan Singh etc.) but the vast majority take the line that they are expected to supplement their income with cash gifts from businessmen.

If it were up to me, I would re-organise the entire system of remuneration for politician. I would pay them decent salaries but I would take away those big houses and those vast untaxed perks. Let ministers and MPs find homes for themselves. It will bring them closer to the people and it will give them some sense of how expensive finding a house has now become.

Of course, there are problems with this solution. What is to be done with the Lutyens bungalows? Hand them over the private sector and these will be demolished to make room for ugly high-rises destroying the character of New Delhi.

Nor is it clear that by paying ministers decent salaries we will necessarily reduce cases of corruption. Some of the most corrupt ministers in this government are already independently wealthy.

Even so, it will still be a step in the right direction. The present system is silly, impractical and based on hypocrisy and lies.

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  • Prashant Saxena

    It is not necessary to change everything, nor is it essential to comment on everything. Indian MP’s should be paid on a “Pay for Performance basis. If they perform for their constituency, the constituency should decide what renumeration they will receive.
    otherwise, they have enough to fend for themselves.
    When was the last time you heard of an MP’s child starving, or being malnourished?

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    Piyush Reply:

    What makes you think that constituency is qualified to make such a decision. Its like saying that the directors in a firm shouldnt decide the salaries of their staff rather their customers depending on each employee basis. Also in a public companies the shareholders dont decide the director’s pay. Must i remind you that when it comes political maturity we indians sincerely lack.

    Btw how do you propose the system you suggested to be implemented . Who decides the initial number? And you dont need a history of child starving to justify someone’s pay. On performance basis public should have the power to not elect the MP by the previously proposed “no vote” vote and if the MP gets a good expendable salary he wouldnt want to stay out of it.

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    AP Reply:

    We already have a “Pay for Performance” system. It’s called ‘Election’.

    Have you heard of it?

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  • http://- Rajeev

    It is a known fact that MPs and MLAs do not devote 100% time to their constituency development work, parliament and other governance related work. I am pretty sure MPs and MLAs use their 50% (atleast) of time in party work i.e. collecting funds, propogating party ideology etc.

    Looking at income and assests declared by political parties (Congress 425 crores and BJP 140 crores), they can afford to share burden of MPs and MLAs Salary. I think, parties should pay their MPs Rs.35000 and MLA Rs.15000 from their own kitty. The taxpayer can pay them Rs.20000 and Rs.10000 so this will make MPs salaries Rs.45000.

    Problem Solved..Why should taxpayers pay MPs and MLAs for their party work?

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  • gurbally seth

    Though Indian MPs should be given the hike, it should be linked to their performance. Govt should also have regular programmes where these MPs are sensitized to India’s burning issues, its emergence on the global stage and threats to its integrity by forces working against it.
    Indian taxpayers should have a strong nation-wide association to hold these MPs, ministers and the government accountable. India needs good governance, not goodas and criminals as its MPs any more. Else we will be crushed by the Chinese soon. Jago India, Jago.

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  • Ragarwal

    Lets say we pay them 10 lakhs/month. Why do you think they will say NO to 1000 crore scams!!!!! ha ha ha ha.

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  • Krishna

    Vir, tell me how much salary you are getting and whats your total income? Who pays you for all ur foriegn visit, liquor, massage expense?

    If you Journo are so concerned then reduce your salary. Rajdeep Sardesai is getting 4Cr/anum, His wife also 2 Cr. Pronoy Roy, Goswami etc all are getting high salary..Why not you are condeming them?

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    Vikram Reply:

    What has that got to do with this ..

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  • Vinay

    Vir,

    you are benchmarking with US and UK again. i challenge you to do an exercise: write this article again without UK and US as reference. i will be glad if you can come up with an alternative that is reasonble. When will we stop following west ?

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  • KMS SAHASI

    I fully endorse views of Vir Sanghvi. Let MPs Perks and Privileges be abolished. and their Salaries are three fold increased.
    Let them know how much a house can be rented in Delhi, What are electricity, water, sewrage, Stormwater Drain bills amount to.
    But Alas! neither PM Manmohan singh not Minister AK Antony has a say. The strings are being pulled by Mrs Sonia Gandhi. Where is economist PM who is bringing economic change, where are the courts who do not punish corrupt politicians like Mayawati, Lalu Prasad, Mulayam singh, Sushma Swaraj and Arun Jaitley. Why Yechuri and Kamath do not oppose this bill? Why are communist MPs are not making rakus in Parliament when one third of the population is realing under pressure of Inflation. Stop this non sense. No need to raise salaries of non performing Parliamentarians. No work No Pay must be strictly applicable to all MPs. Their Pensions with just 5 year term is ridiculous. Why same norm not applied to all Government Servants. Why OROP in case of MPs?

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  • Dr A.P.Biur

    These MP’s could not speak for defence pensioners who are surving at minimum pension of Rs 3500.00.I have met such people.A SHAME ON YOU. you have no money for ONE RANK ONE PAY.WHY don’t you withdraw the rank held by them on retirement ?.A soldier living in a village cannot use canteen facility at all.BUT there is lot of PROPAGANDA of helping them.STATE BANK of INDIA says that these ex-servicemen get rebate on housing loan.HAS ANYBODY CHECKED IT.IT IS POINT ONE PERCENT.TREATING ALL OF THEM AS BEGGARS as SUPREME COURT RECENTLY COMMENTED.

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  • v mandapaka

    Dear Editor,
    I agree with KMS Sahasi and Vir Sanghvi. The MPsalaries and perks and privileges must be looked by Pay Commission in totality. These perks and privileges must be on the lines of UK MPs and USA Senators. No more.

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  • Piyush

    I agree with the Mr. Sanghvi’s suggestion, a system like this will also attract many professionals who currently prefer to be employed by big MNC’s for obvious reasons. I believe this way we’ll get some good pool highly qualified people, may be this what our political system needs.

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  • Vikram

    I agree with Vir. its ridiculous that the take home salary of the PM is less than say maybe mine .. of course discounting his perks and all .. he should not be penalized for being honest .. and then the ones who will be holier than thou and go for a rs salary will also be those who earn crores through devious means

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    Rajeev Reply:

    My question is why taxpayer alone should be burdened by MPs and MLAs salary. Most of the times these MPs and MLAs are working for party, why doesn’t their party pay them from their funds?

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  • jayant

    http://deshgujarat.com/2010/08/17/sunni-muslim-mobs-attack-hindu-couple-and-police-16-round-firing-7-cops-injured/

    see for yourself …..elemdia has been hiding these incidents for 60 years but are busy cooking up stories aginst bjp-rss 24-7……….whre is ndtv ibn,times,india today etc…..

    media shuld reprort facts..here they are running false camapigns aginst hindus and bjp and rss
    and hidng facts related to congress and muslims misdeeds since 1947….

    this is no journalism ..even a school kid knows that and many r turning away from journalism becaause they rexpected to lie and have no integrity..only in congress ruled india all institutions from cbi,police,babus ec and media can be corrupted

    http://deshgujarat.com/2010/08/17/sunni-muslim-mobs-attack-hindu-couple-and-police-16-round-firing-7-cops-injured/

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  • sankalp

    well..seing that performance appraisal is not something which these mps understand …even asking questions imp. for discussion leads them 2 ask 4 money in return..it is little surprise to me that these persons want to assure their livelihood first..it wd hv been much better if they wd hv approved it for the next set of minsisters!!

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  • http://- Rajeev

    The damage has been done..The devils have given themsleves 300% with 200% in almost all the perks.

    Jai Ho..Ex-Servicemen are begging for ‘one rank one pension’ and these ba*tards MPs have given themselves raise shamelessly.

    India deserves these MPs.

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  • sam

    Kashmir: Muslims pressure Sikhs to convert or leave

    It is a long-standing practice in Islamic warfare to invite the targeted population to convert before attacking. Indeed, it goes back to Muhammad himself:

    “When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. … If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them….” (Sahih Muslim 19.4294)

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  • S.R. BHARDWAJ

    You are overrating perks to M.P.s. These perks are nothing compared to the perks available to bureaucrats and private sector bosses. Let the Ministers and M.P.s have the present perks and let there be sufficient increase in their salary. But let us make Central Vigilance Commission more active and result-oriented. Let CVC check corruption which is making India defunct.

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  • tommy

    Mate India is the land of the corrupt!! You have to just accept the fact. The sooner the better you guys can really starting cleaning up.

    There has been a lot of noise about the treatment of indian students down under (some cases rightly so) in a lot of cases it has been the Indians ******** up other Indians. So there was a lot of noise on that regard. Now what about the child labourers of CWG and the workers who sleep on the road or under the fly pass when it rains. You guys choose not to make a big deal out of it. reason: the workers are from interstate, low castes (screw them), Actually you guys think that there is a need for these workers to be in a hapless state because in the end you know there will not be enough left to pay anyone. Infact you eventually call the army to clear the mess for free of cause. One day the army will take over the nation because you cant run it.

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  • parmeet

    why is elmedia hiding this ..when they are watchdogs of gujarat when it acts against terrorists like sorabuddin and post godhra for last 10 years almost 24-7

    hindus r worthless..right?? sharia masquerading as pseudosecularism in elmedia…

    what media??/ aonly in india ruled by corrupt congress to which elmedia belongs

    Gujarat Police jawan Head constable Prabhubhai Mohanbhai who was injured after attacked by Muslim stone pelters,lost his one eye finally in Ahmedabad’s Civil hospital where he is undergoing treatment.

    Vagadod police station’s head constable Prabhubhai was attacked by Muslim mobs in north Gujarat’s Patan taluka village Bhilvan.

    Rioting Muslims had also damaged police vehicle and wounded four other policemen who are presently admitted in Patan civil hospital for treatment.

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  • Shrinivas P Kadagadkai

    Dear All,

    Reg : Pay hike for MPs.

    If they want pay hike, they should also accept the performance test, based on their performance, what they have done, & are doing for common people or public, and the main thing is their retirement age should be declared by the Govt of INDIA, otherwise they all will spoil the nation’s environment.

    Note : Whatever they (MPs) have earned from their young age to till now, should calculate the income, and rest of the property should be acquired by the Govt of INDIA.

    Regards

    Shrinivas P K

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  • http://www.orissarevolt.blogspot.com Lambodar Prasad Dash

    MPs and MLAs are not striving for social welfare, they are after power, money . They knew verywell that their election expenditure will be compensated by other means, not through salaries and other allowances. Some of the MLAs subsequently becomes MPs and vice versa. and they receive both the pensions and salaries, because both are different houses. But the whole money is paid by taxpayers money. There is rule that no person should get double benefit, If MLA and MPs are public servants, then why they should get double payments?????????????????

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  • citygirl

    a lot of generalisation here I feel.
    I have dated British men in the UK who have been happy to meet on a coffee date.
    It’s great you’ve written this article but it is based purely on your experiences, so not sure some of your strong statements are completely justified.
    Dating and courting are still relatively new concepts in India. Relationships that lead to marriage is still the norm.
    I think ex pats need to be realistic when it comes to dating Indian men in India. Culture and family values still play a huge role in an Indan man’s life. Whilst he may be western in his thoughts and open minded, when it comes to marriage, there is still is a set of expectations that an Indian man has of his partner and yes, that may include cooking.
    Dating and marriage are two different things that come with two very different sets of expectations when it comes to the “general” Indian man.
    Just to clarify – I’m a British born Indan female, living in India.

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  • citygirl

    a lot of generalisation here I feel.
    I have dated British men in the UK who have been happy to meet on a coffee date.
    It’s great you’ve written this article but it is based purely on your experiences, so not sure some of your strong statements are completely justified.
    Dating and courting are still relatively new concepts in India. Relationships that lead to marriage is still the norm.
    I think ex pats need to be realistic when it comes to dating Indian men in India. Culture and family values still play a huge role in an Indan man’s life. Whilst he may be western in his thoughts and open minded, when it comes to marriage, there is still is a set of expectations that an Indian man has of his partner and yes, that may include cooking.
    Dating and marriage are two different things that come with two very different sets of expectations when it comes to the “general” Indian man.
    Just to clarify – I’m a British born Indan female, living in India.

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  • http://twitter.com/dazediva dazediva

    Came across your post whilst looking for something else and had to comment. Dating in Bombay / India is an absolute joke. The majority of Indian men have no concept of what dating is meant to be. The men (and women) are far too busy aping the West and trying to be extremely forward when really they should be thinking about how to ‘date someone’.

    I’m a British Indian female living in Bombay for the last 5 years and I can honestly say that I have never been single for so long like I have done here. Indian men automatically assume that just because a girl has grown up overseas she’s more ‘open’ to a purely physical relationship as opposed to an actual relationship based on more than sex. They also have this ‘get-the-f*k-outta-here’ attitude which means they get scared the minute a girl approaches them because it may imply that she wants to get married (jeez what stone age are we living in)

    I went back to UK last year for a few months and it was so refreshing just to go out for drinks / coffee / dinner / theatre dates with guys who wanted to take the time to get to know me before attempting to jump in my pants.

    I’m with City Girl on her views – dating and marriage are two different concepts which unfortunately are ‘one’ for the general Indian man. He can be as modern / western as he wants – and he wants to have fun with the Indian / Expat girl who has lived overseas but when it comes to long term commitment – he wants a docile female who can clothe him, make him meals and look after his family. It’s sad but true.

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  • AR

    private sector is primarily driven by profits….. one cannot force them to have impose employee reservations based on caste…… A pvt sector would just care about actual ability of its potential employee rather than the caste and creed he belongs to….. if you really want to empower all sections you got to do away with reservations …… Ensure that primary education is made compulsory and a quality education is imparted to all sections of society….. Make them equally capable and let them free to compete with each other…..

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  • RG

    Yeah I’m thinking of common man from last 65 years ..and that’s all we did “thinking” – RG

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  • dfer

    He can start by empowering a promising guy from a backward community to be the CEO of the county..a certain Mr. Narendra Modi. How bout that? :)

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    TMM Reply:

    So that he can divide and communalise this nation like he has done in Gujarat???

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  • Nishant kumar

    Does he own a mantra or similar to Namo Mantra, common the guy is too naive to even find his brain at the right place..

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  • Nishant kumar

    Does he own a mantra or similar to Namo Mantra, common the guy is too naive to even find his brain at the right place..

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  • corrupt congress party

    the mantra for success of any industry any here in the world had been the workers ability to perform to the best as per accepted company’s standards and as per if a person belongs to any lower class or minority such as scheduled class or backward class or belonging to a minority such as muslim .

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  • corrupt congress party

    if the rahul wants to give away jobs because a person belongs to the minority or a lower class .then he would be better off giving away some of the money his mother has looted thru various scams to the tune of $900,000 crores and increasing daily,instead of asking industry to give the jobs away whether or not a person is qualified to do it or not.

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  • AshishC

    Spin away…
    Rahul speech received a lukewarm reception because it was anti-pvt sector? Or pointed out non-inclusive nature of pvt sector policies?
    It received a lukewarm response because it showed up an immature young man for what he is. It was a speech full of “huh” and “duh” moments.

    Sample these:

    - “if you can do business in India, you can do so on the moon”- Who takes credit, Mr Gandhi?

    - China’s development/ social sector progress got dismissed, rather arrogantly- “dragon”/ “simplistic place”/ lack of accountability- witness this driver who ran over pedestrians and absconded. Point??

    - Beehive – again, what was the point? That we all slog and the Queen bee grows rich?

    Anyway,

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