Give the devil its due



I’m not the world’s greatest Times of India fan. I have frequently been critical of many of the group’s initiatives. I opposed the shift downmarket which influenced so many other newspapers. I was appalled by the Times during the early years of the century when it was run by brand managers. (Fortunately, editors seem to be back in charge judging by the content in recent years). I remain bitterly opposed to Medianet, which is a form of prostitution. And as a group, the Times is petty and graceless.

But let’s give credit where credit is due. All of us who care about newspapers and the printed word must appreciate the Times group’s initiative in launching a Saturday paper called Crest (terrible name though; sounds like a toothpaste) that has longer articles and aims to provide a more intelligent alternative to the other Saturday papers.

You can argue about the quality of the first issue. I thought it was badly let down by the design which is dull and unimaginative (page one in particular is a disaster) for a product that is supposed to be upmarket.

Some of the headlines were odd (only Bengalis seem to favour the word ‘frightful’ in headlines). And many of the articles had a haven’t-I-read-this-before feeling about them.

But what you can’t argue with is this: as a concept it works.

Judging by the people I’ve spoken to, it has touched a chord with middle class readers who have been depressed by the drop in quality in national newspapers and who long for something that they can sink their teeth into.

No doubt the early defects will be ironed out in the weeks ahead and the paper will get better and better. Once that happens, it should cause other newspaper groups to re-think their own offerings.

In particular, it should remind us that the Times group is the only one in this country these days that has the guts and the resources to grab an idea and run with it. The Saturday paper is one example. After all, the idea is not new. The HT launched a Saturday paper long before anybody else. And in the early days, under the editorship of Namita Bhandare, it was easily the best paper in Delhi every Saturday.

Sadly, during the dark days of the Kalbag editorship, the Saturday paper lost focus, Namita left because of her lack of respect for the editor and the paper never quite recovered. At one stage, they even removed the branding (though that I think was Pankaj Paul’s stupidity) and turned it into just another daily paper.

Fortunately the new regime at the HT comprises real editors with skill and imagination and so the Saturday paper has been relaunched with great success. But unfortunately, the relaunch has been conducted within the existing resources of the paper. So as good as the HT is on Saturday is, it is not a 40-page special newspaper in the sense that the Times of India’s offering is.

Call me biased but I would argue that page for page, the HT on Saturday is still vastly superior to the new Times paper. However, when readers are looking for a product that they can curl up with on Saturdays, they want critical mass and the bulk of the Times’ new offering will give them that.

(For those who don’t, the normal paper is still available).

Can the Times paper be a commercial success?

Frankly, I don’t know. What I do know is that it goes against the tenets of current newspaper management. Editors are always being told by managers that people no longer like reading, that all stories must be very short and that light is better than substantial. If newspaper managers had their way, then all articles would be the size of tweets.

Most newspaper managers worship the Times because they argue that the group has redefined profitability in the industry. (They also love the fact that the Times makes it clear that the executives are the bosses and the journos are the minions.) I don’t know what they will make of the new Saturday paper which totally bucks the conventional wisdom in the industry. But I do know that because it is the Times of India, they will have to take it seriously.

For the sake of the newspaper business I am happy to put aside all Times versus HT rivalries and hope that the new paper does extremely well. For many weeks I have been suggesting on this blog that there is a new kind of reader emerging, the sort of chap who buys The Argumentative Indian at traffic lights and who wants to use the Internet to engage in some serious political debate. I feel that Indian newspaper groups, run on the whole by executives who do not like reading, are ignoring this development and wasting too much time on the old let’s-take-it-downmarket model.

The new Times paper is a sort of test case for this view. If it does succeed – which I think it will once it puts its editorial house in order – then it will make all of us look at readers in a new light.

So, let’s wait and see.

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  • Anil

    There was one thing unique about TOI. The Laxman’s cartoons. Although past his prime the common man still evokes a smile every morning !!

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  • Anil

    MAn I woudl love to get my hands on that Saturday edition.. remidns me of those old days when as a student I used to sit in my balcony with those sepcial editions and a dictionary in tow. Once in a while hurlign glance at the pretty damsel passing buy from behind the goggles.

    See the neuty of goggles you can be a peepign tom and yet come of as someone who is too emersed in the article to notice the God’s best creation passing by.
    Since then thigns have changed and now all I get is perusal of article on net and smoehow this doesn’t have the same touch. Somehow the cold impersonal hello of neighbourhood ladies doesn’t feel the same as the flirtatious gait of those damsels in Delhi. But then again I am no longer 18 year old pretentious hunk (pardon the over-assessment) anymore either.

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  • http://incorrectpolitically.wordpress.com/ Akhilesh

    Dear Mr. Vir,
    I guess this is what happened. You liked the concept of TOI’s Crest edition immensely. You even liked the actual product.

    But how does such a high profile former editor of HT praise anything to do with TOI. It would be blasphemous. So you indulge in the time tested method. First demonise almost everything that TOI stood for in the past. Use as acerbic language as possible in a public forum to denounce the group. And when it is established that you have sufficiently bad mouthed the group, then only praise the latest effort of TOI.

    This way you can prove to HT owners (read Shobna Bhartia) that you have not committed treachary and simultaneously prove to world outside that you are a “statesmanly” editor !!

    But one more question hangs in the balance : Why go to such lengths to praise a rival paper’s initiative? Why not simply let it lie or ignore it ?

    My theory : You are no longer the editor of HT but a kind of a super advisor ( Editorial Director). Not exactly an excutive post but I would presume a mostly ornamental post. Like being elevated to Vice Presidentof India from being Prime Minister !

    Time to move on !. And what better than to do something that no one has done before? Become the editor of Times of India.

    And thus this praise of TOI and obvious hints that give me a chance and I can improve the Crest edition further.

    And thats why this last line in your blog : “it does succeed – which I think it will once it puts its editorial house in order “. Guess who can put that editorial house in order ? Obviously not the existing fools but some one new.

    Think about the epigraph that your future biographics may write :

    “Vir Sanghvi the brilliant thought leader who went on to edit both the Times of India and the Hindustan Times, two newspapers known for their legendary rivaalry. But his talent surpassed even this vast gulf.”

    Go for it Vir. I as a life time reader of TOI would love to see you there. :)

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    Rajeev Reply:

    I guess he has lost his interest in job. We may see him carrying Rahul’s briefcase in future elections just like Rajiv Shukla.

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    Rygysly Reply:

    Akhilesh
    Much of what Vir has stated about the TOI is very true, the TOI paper is practically an advertizing rag tag. Bombay Times is nothing but a bagload of advertizements, the front page image everyday is paid for by the product mentioned there and there is no “real” news. I doubt Vir would EVER joing TOI.
    As for the new venture as good as it may sound, within a few weeks there will be more advertizement and pseudo journalism in it.

    Time will tell.

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  • Pankaj

    what can we expect from someone who works for HT.

    TOI is a competitoer and they are not in congress’s puppet as Sanghvi and HT/CNN-ibN are…

    Stuff you!

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    Ishmart Alec Reply:

    We all know that TOI and HT are not competitors in the real sense as far as ownership pattern is concerned.

    As far as TOI, journalists have a term for TOI amongst their circle that starts with “The OLDEST ********** in India”. Need I say more. Much of the content, as many of my editor friends proudly flaunt thinking that i respect them, are politically motivated, blackmail by editors, affiliations to organizations etc. That explains the frontpage converage for modi’s pic that was really uncalled for. After Akshardham, I fail to recollect any terrorist attack happen on Gujrat Soil. (Pardon me if I miss out on some event). Whereas mumbai has a calendar list of blasts. Need i say more. Demonization through mind games is TOI’s forte.

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  • DR.KAZMI

    VIR, LET ME START BY SAYING THAT I AM A FAN OF YOUR AND REGULARLY READ YOUR COLUMS IN HT. MY REQUEST TO YOU IS TO START A BLOG ON THE PROBLEMS FACING THE COUNTRY, AND ALSO TO WRITE MORE FREQUENTLY THAN YOUR SUNDAY COUNTERPOINT. IF YOU CAN BRING TO LIGHT ,THE DAMAGE SOMEONE LIKE RAJ THAKAY IS DOING TO INDIAN UNITY, HE IS ACTING LIKE HITLER. TODAY I WAS SHOCKED TO HEAR IN THE NEWS THAT KARAN JOHAR WENT TO HIM TO APOLOGISE FOR SAYING THE WORD BOMBAY INSTED OF MUMBAI IN HIS MOVIE. HE SHOULD BE LOCKED BEHIND BARS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IN OUR COUNTRY PEOPLE LIKE MODI AND RAJ THAKRAY ARE NEVER BROUGHT TO BOOK FOR INCITING VOILENCE. REGARDS
    DR.KAZMI

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    ripal mehta Reply:

    people like modi and raj?

    what are you taking about ?? it seems you too have got carried away by modi bashing of media.. no wonder your name says it all.. Shree shree narendra modi has been elected thrice ( THRICE ) , so the people of gujarat loves him and adore him, just because he refused to get intimidated by media , the congress mouth piece media has gone after him with embarassing failure, but this shameless media is stil after him and never misses an opportunity to defame him . raj thackery is another congress chamcha to help them garner votes. modi has never spoken against any other language speaking people inspite of having large marathi population in gujarat. what z the problem with you guys huh? mr kazmi? what do you want him to do ? bash hindus? like these congess walas does? that will make mr. modi secular? huh? have some sense mr. kazmi …

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    DR.KAZMI Reply:

    I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY SAYING THAT MY NAME SAYS IT ALL, PLEASE EALOBORATE. AND REGARDING MODI BEING ELECTED THRICE, EVEN HITLER WAS ELECTED. BUT HISTORY HAS SHOWN US THAT SUCH PEOPLE ONLY BRING DESTRUCTION TO THE COUNTRY. IT IS TIME PEOPLE LIKE YOU WAKE UP TO THE THREAT PEOPLE LIKE MODI POSE TO OUR COUNTRY.

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    ripal mehta Reply:

    you are a muslim right? so no wonder you are just another modi basher, does that elaborates all? And why are you shouting on the blog by writing it in caps? huh? you know who is distructing the country? its a populationg explosion which is distructing the county. and you know who is the biggest contributor ? muslims .. now dont ask me again to elaborate further. every muslim i have come across in my life has minimum 4 childs. anbody seeking better future for their kid would never have more then 2 kids. yeah modi is a threat to country and afzal guru is an asset to the country. kazmi dont you think you a getting a bit carried away with your intelligence, but giving ridiculous example of hitler. one can only wakeup a sleeping person .

    Rygysly Reply:

    Hitler was elected once, he never did ask the people to vote for him a second time. That was dictatorship. Modi has been elected by the people in a fair manner THRICE. So you cannot compare them, Dont even try to. SEe the change modi has brought, see the change the congress has brought to maharashtra, while Gujarat is flourishing with new industries and 24 hour power supply to consumers. Maharashtra India’s premier power house state has not power for 12 hours in some places. Corruption in Modi’s goverment has reached negilible percentages where as states with congress led goverments are increasingly being shown as corrupt and ungovernable states. So DR Kazmi, I think Modi isnt a threat to our country, its people like you who vote for pseudo secularist that pose a bigger threat. A much bigger threat.

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  • rhea singh

    Dear Mr Sanghvi,

    I am inclined to agree with you. Both the TOI and the HT are read in my home. I find the TOI to be inferior to HT. Their daily supplement is crude, vulgar and tasteless. After one such so called headline that screamed Priety Zinta says ” I did rather be a bechari than a ***** “, I went online and starting putting up my comments on their articles and blogs – my attempts at ridiculing and shaming them a little. I urged them to restrain – they have such a disturbing tabloid feel to their content- all aimed at sales ofcourse. We have children at home reading papers.

    I have’nt read Crest – though it is a great idea because somewhere they realized that people are not as dim witted as they thought. People like to read things with a little more substance.

    Where TOI scores is that online they are far easier to surf in terms of their format. I have been a regular at their blogs simply because the look is brighter and more clear than HT online.

    I suggest you take a look and make changes because you are far superior and would get many more viewers.

    Regards,

    Rhea Singh

    PS- Take a look at Sherlyn Chopra’s blog at TOI. Its vulgarity would surprise you.

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    Mr. K.SIngh Reply:

    Dear Ms. Rhea,

    This is K.Singh. I just read your comment and totally agree with you on the
    contents and the quality of TOI. I too agree with you on the matter of substance
    which TOI perhaps cannot match up with HT and IE ( as per my opinion).

    Please do read my statement which is just after you. We perhaps
    missed each other’s statement by few mins. But I guess both are talking
    on the same line as I also agree with your facts which is also visible in my
    statement that TOI is more about good packaging than content.

    Please do reply if you can after going through my statement as well,
    I would be glad.

    - Regards -

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    Arun Sahoo Reply:

    The decline in the quality of TOI had started long ago. I remember one incident in 1998-99. There was a forecast by astonomers that, there would be a meteor shower visible in the night. I , like many of my friends in different cities in India, spent the whole night on terraces to watch the spectacle. Nothing happened.
    The next day morning, the TOI carried an article with photographs telling that, millions of Indians enjoyed the spectacle. While other news papers reported accurately, about the no show, with the photograph telling that the photographs are from south east Asia, where the spectacle were actually seen.
    I scanned the paper for next few days to see an apology but in vain.

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  • Mr. K.SIngh

    Dear Mr. Sanghvi,

    I really admire your views and in depth knowledge about various tropics. I
    agree that previously HT had this sort of paper and just to update you that
    even Indian Express group has been doing the same for quite sometime
    now. If you can check Sunday’s edition of The Indian Express – “The Sunday Express”
    then you will see the same initiative but in a limited scale.

    I would only recommend and add up to your comments that though HT & The Indian Express
    groups have been the original front runners of such initiatives but now a days
    it’s all about good packaging and branding practises. If you have a baby exploit it
    till it’s exposed enough to get attention from public. Hence, the TOI have done the
    same. They have simply segregated their baby from it’s original parents and presented
    it to the world to look at and admire. Trust me, they managed to get the initial attention
    from public.

    However, such practises are missing with HT and IE. I liked when HT did rebranding and
    brought out the Delhi’s historial moments ( creation of Parliament House – Rastrpati Bhawan
    and some historical facts in written format) couple of month’s ago but with HT that was the
    only initiative I noticed after a long gap but that was along with their own branding and completion
    of certain number years celebration.

    I would recommend in this compititive world their is no time to wait and claim credits
    for past. It’s still not late with HT and IE to open their eyes and work on some of these factors
    as these 2 Newspapers served India for quite a long time and are well embedded into
    our systems and known for their own contents and editorials.

    I am sure you must have gone through this book but if not then will be glad if you
    can suggest management to go through it atleast and if you too can read it ( I am sure you
    must have read it but in case you missed it) and make them realise that the business can
    be run differently and by taking inititaives.
    The book is : “The Blue Ocean Strategy”

    -Regards-

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  • Hemant Kapre

    Dear Vir – let me begin in a pretty forthright manner. As someone closely associated with the HT, you are scarcely expected to sing paeans of praise for the TOI group. So, I find it hardly surprising that you are critical of the TOI. Also the first step the TOI took towards catering to the lowest common denominator was bringing out that filmi supplement called Delhi Times (in Delhi) / Mumbai Times (in Mumbai)…etc. And let me remind you that HT City was a desperate response by the HT group to that move when it realized that it was the LCD that was setting the cash registers ringing more often than not in all media houses. So it sounds a bit “holier than thou” when you find fault with the TOI on that.

    Having said that, let me share that I personally prefer the Delhi HT edition to the Delhi TOI edition (perhaps because HT city hasn’t dumbed down to the depths that Delhi Times has). Another factor which swings my vote in HT’s favour is Brunch. You ought to honour the person who came up with the Brunch idea !

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  • Mark

    Vir… i respect the clarity of your mind / views. Let me repeat what everyone knows and feels about today. The age of reading and writing, i guess is passe. It is the time of talking over the mobile. Short msgs., SMS-language (shorter than the telegraphic language). Grammar has been thrown out into the dustbin. Kaam Ki Baat Chal Rahi Hai. The pen is used only to sign “bank cheques”. So in the world of 2009, i am sorry to say., but i say that within the next 20-25 years., print media would be dead by 80%.

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    RGB Reply:

    While working in association with a British consultancy firm in oil&gas industry, I find that the Britishers are prolific users of pen. They carry fat notebooks to every meeting, notes are written lucidly and crisply with neat handwriting and clarity of thought, which can be produced verbatim later for reference. They are great chroniclers of day to day activity, logging on every activity, every *** bit into their dairies and note books. Not for nothing they have produced great historian like Winston Churchill. We Indians do not value the time tested traditions and practices like reading books, writing diaries with pen, listening to radios and are expert in commercialising everything. Look how we have murdered the game of cricket , by converting it to a money spinning circus and players morphed into zombies at the hands of manipulators. Ditto with sheer deterioration of the national newspapers led by TOI.. Crest edition is a laudable move in right direction .. let such acts flourish

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  • ripal mehta

    Afzal Guru is patriot , Baghat Singh/Sadhvi are terrorist

    Afzal Guru ko maafi Sadhvi ko faansi

    Allah is god ,Ram is a fictional character.

    SIMI ,IM are social service org ,RSS,VHP are terror org.

    Kerala CPM declared 4000 Rs/- pension for madrasa teachers from temple funds

    genocide of tamils= srilanka’s internal problem

    Great sivaraj patil compares azfal hanging with common Indian (Sabarjit singh ) in pak. Afzal is human ,Sabarjit is traitor.

    Godhra Train carnage is accident ,gujarat riots are preplanned .

    15% muslims are human ,85% hindus are insects.

    Supporting Majority (80 crores hindus) is Communal ,20 crores muslims are minority (lol population of USA)

    Malegaon blasts are only blasts ,other blasts are not at all blasts , they are just diwali crackers.

    5 muslims died in malegaon are important ,1000s died in other blasts are not important.

    reservations for muslims ,bomb blasts for hindus.

    crores of money for Haj pilgrims, nothing for amarnath pilgrims ,allotting 2 acres of land in kashmir is blunder.

    supporting islamic terrorist is secularism ,killing Indians is patriotism .

    babri masjid is issue(which is actually a ram temple) , 100’s of hindu temples demolished is development.

    If muslims die it is killing ,if hindu dies it is fate.

    hindus should follow rules ,muslims no not need to obey common civil code.

    according to congress

    Sikhs getting slaughtered in thousands = A MISTAKE.
    hindus getting killed in Kashmir = Political problem.
    muslims getting killed by a few hundred = Holocaust.
    Poor protestors getting shot in WB under Left Govt = Misunderstanding.

    Banning Parzania in Gujarat = Communal.
    Banning Da Vinci Code and Jo Bole So Nihaal = Secular.

    Kargil Attack = Government failure.
    Chinese invasion in 1962 = Unfortunate betrayal.

    Reservations in every school and college on caste lines = Secular. Reservations in Minority institutions = Communal.

    Fake encounters in Gujarat [Sohrabuddin] = BJP Communalism.
    Fake encounters under Cong-NCP in Maharashtra [Khwaja Younus] = Police atrocity.

    Talking about hindus and hinduism = Communal. Talking about muslims and Islam = Secular.

    BJP freeing 3 terrorists to save 100 Indian hostages = Shameful
    Congress freeing 4 militants to save just a life of one daughter of I Home minister in Kashmir [Rubina Sayed] = Natural Political dilemma.

    Attack on Parliament = BJP ineptitude. Not hanging Afzal Guru the mastermind despite Supreme Court orders = Humanity and Political dilemma.

    BJP questioning Islam = Communal. Congress questioning Lord Ramas existance = Clerical Error

    These are just few examples, list can go on and on.

    Its time for hindus to wake up or perish.

    At the time of partition 18 % population of Pakistan were hindus, now its not even 1 %, and 8 % population of Afghanistan were hindus now its 0 %. Where have they all gone.

    Tamil hindus are being discriminated and slaughtered in srilanka, no body including India says anything, when muslims were killed in Yugoslavia the world attacked Yugoslavia.

    Rajiv Gandhi sent ipkf ( Indian peace keeping force ) to kill tamil hindus in srilanka.

    Hindus being tortured and discriminated in Malaysia, and Indians happily tour Malaysia.
    Hindu Temples demolished in kazakistan, Russia.

    Hindus call them self educated and they vote for congress, because congress says ( our prim minister actually ) “ muslims have first right on every resources” , hindus are terrorists , armed forces are communal because they say “ram ram”.

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    Rygysly Reply:

    So True!

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