Judgements and Journos



Here are two concepts that you may be familiar with. The first is the media elite. There is a sense in which people in the media are regarded as being removed from their readers of viewers. We are said to have our own pre-occupations, our own motivations and our own perspective on the world. Often, we are criticized for being so obsessed with our own interests and our own advancement.

The second is the concept of inclusiveness of new and social media. The difference between old media and new media, we are told, is that whereas old media allowed for a gulf between journos and their readers/viewers, new media is a more inclusive concept. When I go on to Twitter, for instance, any of the 3,30,000-odd people who follow me can offer a comment which they know that I am certain to see. Similarly, the Internet makes for an inclusive society. There is less sense of a journo speaking to his readers from a distance. Each day, I receive dozens of questions on my website and no matter where in the world I am, I try and take time out to answer all the interesting ones.

Both concepts seem to me to be well thought-out and I have few real problems with them.

But here’s my question: is the Internet losing its sense of being a reflection of the views of society at large? Are many of those who blog and tweet (and I don’t just mean those sad losers who escape from their pathetic little lives by spending hours abusing other people on the net) beginning to believe that they constitute a secondary elite?

Let’s take just one example. It is now common for bloggers and tweeters to complain that the media are only interested in circulation and viewership (or TRPs).

What is circulation? How are TRPs computed?

Circulation is the aggregate of the number of people who subscribe to a publication. TRPs are a measure of viewership. The higher your circulation the more people you reach. Likewise with TRPs.

When bloggers tell you that TV channels are only interested in TRPs, what are they saying?

In effect, they are saying that TV channels are only interested in reaching as many people as possible.

And why is this a bad thing? Surely the people the TV channels will reach will be just like the bloggers, ordinary people with an interest in some aspect of the news.

Why should it be a form of abuse within a medium that is supposed to empower ordinary people to attack traditional media for trying to reach more ordinary people?

Or, look at it another way. If a programme gets high TRPs, then this means that lots of ordinary people have liked it. The ordinary people may be right or wrong to have liked it – I pass no value judgements here – but the fact that they liked it is a reflection on them, not on the TV channel. So, why blame the channel? Why not blame the viewers?

The answer is obvious. Some of the more opinionated bloggers and tweeters believe that they are part of an elite. They distance themselves from the tastes of ordinary people and have contempt for the kind of programming that gets TRPs (i.e. is preferred by ordinary people).

Thus, we have a bizarre situation where traditional media are criticized for fulfilling their role of appealing to mass audiences on the grounds that the programming does not appeal to a tiny minority on the Internet (and compared to TV audiences or newspaper readerships, the blogging elite is really tiny).

I do not dispute that bloggers have a right to regard themselves as an elite. My point is more limited. Such is the arrogance of the blogging elite these days that even when it attacks journos, it is effectively dissing the vast majority of media readership and viewership.

Which is fine. It’s a free country. You can diss who you like. You can ascribe as many wonderful, elitist qualities to yourself as you like.

But the next time I see attacks on journalists from pseudonymous bloggers who complain that the journos are only trying to get TRPs (i.e. reach a mass audience), I will wonder: just who do you guys represent? Are you speaking on behalf of viewers and readers? Or are you just another anonymous elite that feels emboldened to pass judgement on the rest of the world from the darkness of your rooms?

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  • abhinav

    Sir, i dont think that most of indian viewers are enlightened enough to judge what is right or wrong for them .If media lashing is not done by saner voices present they would continue dishing out insane programmes leading to an uninformed younger generation .

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    Dharmagya Reply:

    Hi Vir,
    Not speaking for any of the ‘pseudonymous bloggers’, but my sense of blogger’s attack on media (maybe termed as TRP drive) is primarily on the dipping level of content on TV channels/ Print media.
    For instance, can showing 30 min special on ‘a cow being engulfed by an alien vehicle’, be construed as a journalistic means to reach a wider audience base. A blogger would accuse the channel adopting terrible means to increase TRPs. The channel would have reached the objective of reaching a wider audience. The question which remains unanswered is who is right in this situation? The channel or the blogger.

    Regards,
    Dharma

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  • http://- Rajeev

    Mr.Sanghvi,
    I doubt if you read each and every tweet from losers when you don’t read replies to your blog.

    A large majority of losers are actually more worried about PAID NEWS than your love for TRPs.
    The bias that you show towards current govt. is cause of worry for many losers who are looking forward to neutral news/opinion.

    According to us losers, the people who act like puppy at the sight of low IQ Rahul Baba are true losers.

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  • sheetal

    well said rajiv, vs is not honest like his buddy ndtv.they hide facts about their affiliations while they drum up falsehood about bjp and hindus.

    how many know that sonia singh of ndtv is a congress ministers wife and was doing a 24-7 campaign on pink chaddi sponsored by tehelka the congress dirty trickster based on muthalik whom no one knew.the ssame elm hid the owaisi tasleema and nurse violence in ap because it is congress ruled and muthalik is no mla like secular owaisi and madani .

    who is ht publisher shobana bhartiya? why is ht hiding this? what is the quid pro quo between barkha and vs who shows up on ndtv all the time and defended barkha an dtook on admiral bhagat after his expose on ndtv during kargil. why ha ndtv not sued him as promised so dramatically ?

    ndtv has a pakitsni licence to broadcast and is angry about the ipl decision on pakistanis because their business in arabi and pakistan is involved.

    these guys r not journalists and r giving journalism a bad name.only in inida media watches the opposition 24 7 and cover up failings of ruling congress lest they benefit the bjp.in developed countries media is an institution that is watchdog of the govt. but in india this vs will
    talk about privacy of congress tiwari and pry into private lives of celebrities on his gossip shows while freidnd barkha will promote om puri’s book . vs will not see the difference between a
    guy in mutually consensual private sexual activity and a governor promissing licenses .tiwari was a former congress cm and must have done this for decades under licence raj congress rule fom which this media benefits to this day.

    but the privacy of a guy mentioned above is not respected because of his rss connection.communal riots have happened in thousands under congres,but gujarat make s a bjp cm a mass murderereer and a congress goons vs sikhs without a godhra train provocation
    was glossed over by this same vs who hides godhra train like his elm cohorts as they do the kashmiri hindus. an dthese guys keep writing pretentous blogs like this one.

    and they will hide comments like this one an dlecgture about mfhusains right to freedom . vs’s pal ndtv recommended a bharat ratna for mfhusain and hid the aurangzeb exhibition ban in chennai.

    24-7 screaming if it hurts bjp and hindus in bjp ruled states and hushing it up if it hurts congress and muslims .an dthese guys pose a s journalists and fraud people who give them business and trust them.shameless and disgusting .go ahead censor this veer. u truly are scared of the truth .
    and dont respect your commenters time by censoring comments

    so brave as ur name means ? if so dont be scared of publishing this. let us see.

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    Somnath Reply:

    Vir,

    Its the same as journos, and the “best” of them, accusing politicians of being populist!

    But its a fact that we, ie, the “elites”, expect more out of institutions/individuals that have the power to influence and lead not to succumb to the “I was their leader, I had to follow them” syndrome.

    Regards
    Somnath

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    VM Reply:

    Am I the only one who is left scratching my head over bad grammar, incoherent blabber and the Nana Patekarish outpouring of vitriol or are there other ignoramuses like me floundering in the dark, gasping for breath, trying to achieve some kind of a dramatic breakthrough in the rush of words?

    Friends, please don’t hold back.

    Cheers,
    VM

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    ishwar Reply:

    VM.. why don’t you try to appreciate the points made by Sheetal above ignoring the grammar and occasional spelling mistakes. She has made very valid points. It’s a shame that you can live with shabby journalism as practiced by Barkha, VS, Rajdeep and their ilk but you have problems with somebody’s grammatical skills. I think you need to grow up or shut up.

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    Ashutosh Kaul Reply:

    Vir It is an interesting counter move on behalf of Journo’s. Not enough though, I am afraid . I think some jobs are more of a mission than a career. Nothing wrong in being the best possible editor, commentator and so on. Neither do I believe that Journalists should wear torn kurta’s and skip meals because they are broke. However I have problems when I feel that the news has a definite slant favouring this position or that position. I want news that is complete ; news that shows all aspects of an issue and an editorial policy which is objective. Unfortunately I do not get it. Someone has to benefit by these machinations. Surely It is not your audience. I feel someone somewhere is doctoring the information that reaches me and trust me It is not a good feeling . Social media may not have the professional elegance and measured tones of the established media but it is more from the heart. It may not have the analytical capability of a pro but it has a directness that is more refreshing than subjective editorializing and sponsored expert opinions.
    One more thing , I was able to understand Sheetal’s post quite well. Makes sense- we cave dwellers understand each other ,it gibberish to people who have “arrived”.

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    Rajeev Reply:

    VM,
    Don’t hide behind excuse of bad grammar and blah blah..just look at the content of post.

    Isn’t it true that you Vir Sanghvi is pro-congress in your views?

    You can not be called a journalist but a paid journalist working for your masters.

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    vivek Reply:

    ha ha ha – laugh it off – she/he is defending Modi – period!

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    Niki Reply:

    I had no problems understanding what Sheetal was saying. But I am the ‘little people”. And most little people do not know English.
    But these are the little people you claim to represent. Obviously, you don’t speak the same language as we do. And therein lies the dichotomy.
    Infact, you don’t think as Indians do, have the same vision for India as Indians. You represent the vestiges of the colonial powers that ruled us. The same patronizing mindset, the same us vs. them. The same, judge and assess India through western eyes not Indian eyes.
    Infact that is what we bloggers and “little people” are fighting against. We need media that looks at us through our eyes not a western perspective of what India should be (which the current English speaking media in India represents). We need media that reflects an Indian reality not western concepts superimposed on India – communism, socialism, religionism.
    The english speaking Indian media does not represent Indian thought but influences it to morph it into a sham, shadow of a western perception of what India should be.
    This is our fight. That is why we are on the web, to defend our culture, our thought just the way our freedom fighters fought for the territory of India. Over 60 years, you cost us so much because we were not strong, could not speak the language and were barely making two meals a day. Now some of us can speak and it is getting uncomfortable for you.
    Well it is better than the approach a certain religion would have adopted had they been a majority, don’t you think?
    We use our keyboards, not words.
    Paradoxical, that you are encouraging those very sword forces through your choices in politics and the thoughts your propagate.

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    Niki Reply:

    Meant “swords” not words

    mukund Reply:

    very well put niki
    basically indian media in english particularly is all westoxicated they support congress may becoz it is one without ideology and in disguise these media guys can propagate their own ideology movie RANN is excellent depiction of these filthy people…

  • Suchi Bhatia

    I believe that it is everyone’s birth right to express his/her views. When you reach some higher position in the society which is above the normal crowd then you are bound to recieve appreciation as well as criticism. You should not get flattered by the appreciation and should not lose your temper
    when u recieve criticsim. Afterall its democracy and everyone if one gets the platform , will speak something. And internet is the easiest and readily available tool for that. And Mr. Sangvi i dont think that this kind of language(and I don’t just mean those sad losers who escape from their pathetic little lives by spending hours abusing other people on the net) does not suit a veteran and experienced
    writer like you.Even if someone is attacking you, you should reply to them with GRACE because if someone is criticising you and feeling that you are biased and you have a soft corner for the current Government,its their view. I think you are noone to decide who is loser nad who is winner.

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    Pankaj Reply:

    A news channel relentlessly following a TRP agenda is what the problem is (thats the context right? since we’re talking of arrogant bloggers dissing journos). Apart from reaching a wide audience, news channels also have the responsibility of reporting fact. News programming which includes hour long coverage of Khali’s death crunch match with Undertaker, or covering the mysterious village boy who was an english professor in the past lifetime, is good from a TRP (or as you put it – reaching a mass audience) point of view, but the objective of presenting factual news is lost somewhere.

    And you are right. What channels broadcast reflects the tastes of the audience.

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  • http://www.indranil-mukherjee.com Indranil Mukherjee

    Hello Vir,

    I think when people are talking about TRP and implying “bad” things by it, what they probably are wanting to mean–but possibly using the wrong jargon, “TRP”–is this:

    The channels think sensationalizing any item in the bulletin will hook the viewer to that channel since most humans like to watch salacious and titilating stories. The so-called “channel stickiness” {or did I just coin that term? :-) } and thus the channel garners more eyeballs who remain with them.

    For example, if any channel were to say, hypothetically, “Today this famous star/ politician/ personality *substitute any name* was caught kissing this famous item girl *substitute name* in this famous restaurant/ hotel/ public place”, what do you think the average viewer would do? Why, hang around in that channel hoping to grab some footage of that infamous–but boy, so perfectly delicious–act! But hey, is that “news”? In a way, it may be, but, surely not worth time in a precious 30-minute news hour slot (curtailed as it is by the many ad breaks)?

    You can substitute this with any sensationalist bit–tree that produces sacred ash, for a wild example, or a naan with Jesus’ image on it–and you will have guaranteed channel stickiness.

    In the print media, the scantily clad girls are a certain attraction… they help sell for sure. Check how many of the same people who check these ladies out also spend some time with “dry” newspapers? The ET? Or the FE? Or the Mint? Or even the main sections of the same newspaper that carry these scantily clad ladies? :-)

    By the way, your thoughts are very interesting to follow, whether they be on political matters, travel, food or anything else. I follow them regularly… keep writing!

    Regards,

    Indranil

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  • Anil Kumar

    When bloggers tell you that TV channels are only interested in TRPs, what are they saying?

    In effect, they are saying that TV channels are only interested in reaching as many people as possible.

    And why is this a bad thing?

    I will try to make my point through simple example Oke racy pictures always attracts higher viewership if it’s video all the better. But you certainly would not advocate beamign of those *** clips just to attract viewership. The TRP driven nonsense which oen gets to see these days is just soft form of those racy videos. Journalism is much more beyond viewership.

    By the way watch the same journos Veer Sanghavi included giving lecture on TV how so and so winnign election means nothing. Yes if that so and so happens to eb Narendra Modi these journos stoop top the level of claiming that Gujarati voters are bad.

    Bottomline everyone will stick to their stand no matter what particualrlry socalled educated class refuses to be moved by evidences from their fortified positions. Be it blooger or some holier than thou journalist.

    Having said I do belive in the adage of Mani Shankar Aiyar majority of journalists are failed UPSC aspirants. Particularly the old ones in new era UPSC has lost charm so not many delve into it. I also belive our journalists need statitstics 101 course. So many of them infer long arduous theories on the basis of their personal experience. Hardly any of them know the difference between anecdotal evidence and scintific statistical evidence. ION fact it’s lame to even call anecodtal evidence evidence.
    My another beeef with journos these days is that they do not care about the people they are interacting withmight be being extra nice knowing they are talkign to some journalists.

    Peopel with science background call it Heisenburg’s priniciple where observer by its very presnece alters the data it’s observing.
    Please be extra careful abotu thsi particualrlry when you are in pakistan just because you got royal treatment doesn’t mean anythign. people know you are a journalist from India and put on an artificial nice act. If you want to knwo real Pakistan and Pakistani go there without the journalist tag and then you will knos the truth.

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  • sunny

    Is it the objective of journalism to pander to base instincts of people and thus increase the TRPs. This question is not new. Creative people, writers, journalists cannot escape dealing with this question – as their works are intended for a wide audience . The ones who take their roles seriously arrive at the conclusion that they have a responsibility to inform, challenge and enhance sensibilities of their audience. For a writer like Premchand, this meant penury despite a lifetime of dedication to his craft. For a journalist like Sainath, it means trudging an unglamorous path by taking up dull but important issues like poverty, droughts and paid journalism.

    So, please desist from criticizing the anonymous bloggers who force you to look at the mirror once in a while. Of course you will not like what you see in the mirror – is the blogger to be blamed for that?

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  • http://pankajunk.wordpress.com Pankaj

    I sincerely hope there is a difference between a Bollywood potboiler and a news channel.

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  • http://retributions.nationalinterest.in/a-blogging-elite/ A Blogging Elite? | Retributions

    [...] Thus, we have a bizarre situation where traditional media are criticized for fulfilling their role of appealing to mass audiences on the grounds that the programming does not appeal to a tiny minority on the Internet (and compared to TV audiences or newspaper readerships, the blogging elite is really tiny). [link] [...]

  • http://sriyansa.wordpress.com/ Sriyansa

    It is hilarious, Mr. Vir, that the same “vitriolic outpouring” label you so easily on some of the comments here, can also be, with equal if not more justification, attached to your post above.

    I will point out 2 obvious and glaring errors in your argument above:

    1. The thesis that an idea or a critique has to be representative of the interests of a certain sections is both divisive and parochial. Your starting assumption that unless there are vested incentives, no one will state anything – is the single most common gripe against the media today (by the way, just because I stated this does not imply my agreement with it).

    2. Since when has the validity of an idea or argument determined by the number of people behind it. A society subscribing to a view such as this is a sure way of going down the rabbit hole.

    There are much complete rebuttals of your thesis including this post here: http://retributions.nationalinterest.in/a-blogging-elite/

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  • http://srijithunni.blogspot.com Srijith

    Mr.Vir Sanghvi,

    How noble you make it sound?. Channels trying to get more TRP’s so that they can reach more people. What about the money it gets from advertisements. More the TRP’s of the programme, more are the sponsors and more is the money media houses get.

    And I just want to reply to you that bloggers are not elite people who sit in dark rooms and trash the media. Bloggers are socially conscious, literate and knowledgeable people who can objectively understand different kinds of media and make an argument against the same. Today every media house or news channel is in some way or the other aligned with the congress and trashes BJP in every possible way. If not for blogs then many of the false news snippets the media dished out would never have been known or highlighted.

    And lastly Yes! Blogging is a powerful medium and in this Information age, it can quickly grow bigger than any other form of entertainment or news, so dont worry, you dont have to get insecure like this. Bloggers are friendly people who know to invite you also to blog. Whether you want to do it out of a dark room or not is upto you.

    Journalism should be objective and neutral, but you guys sensationalize everything so much, that I prefer Doordarshan now, where at least news was read out as news and nothing else.

    Grow Up. Vir!

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  • venkatesh

    Mr Sanghvi,

    And now here is the most scary part, how are you going to be a “thought leader”, you just dont state facts now, do you? you opinionate
    What matters is not if the opinion is elitist or not, what matters is the content of the opinion

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    Aneesh Reply:

    There are so many uneducated people in our country. Would not they be attracted to news like “Aliens ko Himesh pasand”, “Hamaare channel ko mili Swarg ki sidhiyaan(Stairway)” or extensive coverage of news pertaining to any sexual infringement? I would rather the news channels have some integrity and stick to show news which would keep upto some standards. Are not there better ways to increase the TRPs and Circulations. Please see the city supplement of your news paper which is so sleazy mostly that I know college boys looking for them when in need(:P).

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  • http://www.fakingnews.com Pagal Patrakar

    Dear Mr. Sanghvi,

    I’m one of the anonymous bloggers and tweeterers, who take potshot at media, journalism and especially television journalism, and needless to say I was quite amused by your post.

    I won’t comment on the ‘elite’ mentality that you believe exist among some of the bloggers, but would like to comment on your justification of TRP driven mentality of television channels.

    Your argument that television channels are interested in higher TRPs because they are interested in reaching wider audiences is flawed. The truth is, television channels are interested in higher TRPs because they are interested in higher revenues.

    Tell me honestly, will a television channel, or a newspaper, care to reach to wider audiences if it didn’t impact their advertising rates in a positive manner? Of course not! So it’s not any ‘mission’ to reach ‘common masses’ that drives the TRP mentality. They want to make profits.

    You would say, what ****, why should the television channels not care about profits? Fine, so at least accept that it’s the ‘profits’ that matter, not the ‘public’. Let’s not make a virtue out of a necessity.

    Anyhow, in my humble opinion, the culprit is neither the television channel nor the viewer, the culprit is the dynamics of the advertising industry that places huge, almost solo, importance on the TRPs while calculating advertising rates.

    So the solution is not in pointing fingers towards anonymous bloggers or justifying the TRP race, but the solution is to find a way where advertising rates are made less dependent upon pure TRP numbers.

    And trust me, the idea that advertising rates can be less dependent upon TRPs is not ‘idealistic’, it’s very much possible. Please read my two cents over the issue and a possible solution on how television advertising rates can be less dependent upon TRPs – http://www.fakingnews.com/2009/07/sensationalism-trp-madness-television-journalism-india/

    Thanks,
    Pagal Patrakar.

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  • http://zenx.posterous.com Sameer

    So, what you’re essentially saying is that if a lot of ‘ordinary’ people like porn, its ok to run sites for that. Or if most people are a willing audience for a show that pushes people to bare all publicly, you can hardly fault the producers for that. Huh ?

    One expects slightly more ‘responsible’ behaviour from those who control media that can help form public opinion. The lowest common denominator often does find an audience, but that is not enough reason to descend into it. Politics, democracy and more recently, the media have been reduced to the LCD of ‘popular opinion’. Hence we have no leaders who help form consensus around what starts of as an unpopular opinion (Raja Rammohun Roy wrt sati, anyone?), and few in the media who’re defining benchmarks of decency, unbiased debate and honest reviews of events.

    Its not ‘elite’ to have a benchmark one adheres to. I’m not wrong to obey the traffic light even if the larger multitude behind me honks to try force me to move just cause its 10pm. Its the same thing, if you pause to consider it with some honesty.

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  • Mallikarjuna

    Hi Vir,

    Good points raised.
    It takes a phone line & little money to set a blog, while it takes too much to setup a TV channel or News paper.
    Business demands there be profit and it leads to give-take.

    However, see other side of the coin.
    1) Your article is under http://blogs.hindustantimes.com/….. viz blogger!. So, which category of blogger, are you among?
    Losers, who accuse …..
    Elite, who criticize…….
    Lowest Common Denominator ….
    Or are you against Blogger & for wordpress, livejournal [Sorry, that was for fun :)

    2) You are among few people, who write sensibly. We expect you bear the burden of expectations. Not everything under Lowest Common Denominator [Rakhi ka swaymavar, saas-bahu, sach kaa saamna] are all good in the long-run. Because it caters to masses, does it mean, anything that sells is fine?
    If Lowest Common Denominator[LCD] is the motivating factor, why have niche channels [Fox history, NDTV-King Fisher, ...] This could be taking the argument too far, but for argument’s sake, why should Truth hurt?
    Channels need TRP to get Ads, they do all circus to get that.

    Elite Bloggers are not some one, averse of business realities. What they imply is Media can do better & they should do better.

    You’ve seen the best of both worlds [TV & News Papers].
    Isn’t LCD disappointing?

    As always,
    awaiting your next article.
    Thanks,
    Mallikarjuna.

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  • http://www.amitabhmishra90.blogspot.com Amitabh Mishra

    Hello VS,

    Completely awestruck…I have been reading your columns for the past 3-4 years…and yeah it reflected you were pro-congressi or whatever …
    But the arguements given here simply sounds so irrational :(

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  • SudhaR

    In agreement with most of the replies above, this was not a rational piece put to paper. Thank the Lord that there is an ‘elite’ that questions the senseless direction that the media has taken. The media’s role should remain to report factually, and perhaps even to refine a nation’s sensibilities. We have too often been fed ‘news and debate’ that is suitable only for the garbage heap.
    Incidently, I think you should stop the late nights, and take and post a better picture of yourself, one that does not look like you have a serious hangover. Or see a doctor. Oops. I’m advising in your best interest.

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  • Shwet

    Hello sir,

    I am a great fan of you and your columns but frankly speaking this post is really disappointing. And I think your definition of TRP needs some modification, channels do try to reach more and more people but not actually to enlighten them, all they want is to sell something during those commercial breaks.
    I actually don’t understand what you trying to prove here ?Do you wanna say that channels are enlightening people by coming up with a new date every weekend when “world will end”.What is their sole motive when they claim they have found staircase to heaven? Actually i’ll like to say that now news channels have more become entertainment channels.
    My sincere thanks to all those losers who raise questions keep going friends.

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  • Ananonymous!

    Do you think the bloggers are mindless people who have no other job than to critisize the media OR YOU? Do you think that its only your TV channel that has the right to express opinion? Being named or unnamed is not the issue but being able to express is the the basic underlying fact.

    Just because you are a known face on TV doesn’t mean everyone has to always agree with you. TRPs are nice and i hope your channel/show gets the highest TRP. However, it does not mean that I enjoyed it. My critisizm does not mean that you have to be overly defensive. However, it does mean that maybe you can improve.

    Its nice to see that when a politician is critisized its ‘okay’ but if a journalist is critisized its a huge crime! Why? Barkha dutt sent a notice so a blogger. Seriously Dude no one read that blog until she made a moutnain out of a molehill. SEriously can i say she’s an elite group and now is defensive? Can I say that she and the channel of the trp and has lost the very fundamental of freedom? The same journalist who represent the freedom of speech want to curb the blogger.

    Finally by knowing my name or my identity what difference does it make. Isn’t it enough to know that i’m one of those masses who make the trp of your show and would like to see some changes?

    Its funny that you rather see critisism and start being overly protective. Grow Up! if you are being critisized then look at it and see if the other party has somethiing to say and chose to ignore it. But by writing blogs or sending notices you are seriously damaging the little bit of respect people had for you. Seriously dude, Grow Up!

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  • http://www.mentalie.blogspot.com mentalie

    mr.sanghvi,

    i am an admirer of your columns and food writing…but i do not think that it speaks for me. i think it’s the most egotistical thing about mass media and the folks that represent it – the belief that you in any way represent your reader / viewer, because we watch what you present. people gawk at a lot of things, don’t you know? i believe that’s what is so fascinating about new/social media – that the content / comment i put on it represents nobody else but me. or whosoever i want me to be.

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  • http://www.rollon.in Rishi

    I quite frankly don’t think there’s anything wrong in what he has written. He does start off by saying that traditional media too is sort of elitist, doesn’t he? Surely we can’t for a minute believe that Indian blogs are a fair representation of what the entire cross-section of Indians feel, can we? That makes us elitist, no?

    Also, nowhere in his blog does he exclude himself from this definition. Sure, he’s elitist too. After all, he is an Indian blogger, having access to a medium that 96%+ of his fellow countrymen don’t.

    We frown on India TV and all – they are too low brow for us perhaps. But they do have a viewership, don’t they?

    My only problem with TV journos is that they take themselves too seriously. And with that single blog post, VS seems to have somehow managed to show that bloggers do to.

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  • Zooxy

    Is there censorship here?

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  • http://sherenejose.com Sherene

    Mr. VS, I am at a loss of words, not for lack of things to say, but for the abundance of views quite contrary to your flippant arguments. Your self-righteousness and apparent belief that journalists are held ransom to what the viewers wish to see make me worry that you do not know the difference between news/fact-gathering vs. entertainment.

    That, instead of applauding the rise of a coherent civil society in our relatively young democracy, you revile those who actively take an informed stand, whether it be for or against policies, politicians or misguided media goes to show how much you’re threatened by the idea of losing your own ‘elite’ status. Congratulations, you just lost your favoured status amongst many of the ’sad losers trying to escape from their pathetic little lives’.

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  • sudhi

    Well, given that internet is reachable only to a small segment of our society, essentially the well to do and well educated society, it is not surprising that bloggers and tweeters are from the elite of the society ( I mean the top 10% of the population). I doubt that many would consider themselves to be either the elite or above other people – an attitude somewhat glaringly obvious among our TV luminaries.

    What bothers this well informed group (one learns to ignore the ‘vir sucks’ type of responses) is not the chase for TRPs but the role the media mavens play as gatekeepers to the information that reaches the public and their own biases which results in an implicit censorship (I know – this is a weighty charge). Two examples:

    1. When Rizwan was murdered in Kolkata, all main stream media went to town to ensure justice. Good – that is how it should be. However, recently when a Rajneesh Sharma was killed by the police in Jammu, in an identical situation with the religion of the lovers reversed. Not a peep from the MSM including your paper. Let alone op-eds and candle light vigils, even the news was practically blacked out. An informed reader will natually ask, why?

    2. The media rushes to protect any attack on the freedom of expression of M.F. Husain, Well, good again. However, hardly any such concern is shown towards Taslima Nasreen, who actually is under greater physical threat than Husain. Agani, why?

    One can cite countless examples. But get the idea. This is what bothers most of the non-media, non-celebrity audience – not TRP chase. That is a strawman you are setting up. Some might have sneered at Rakhi Sawant’s swayamvar but nobody thought of it as an indicator of media bias or some such thing deeper.

    Oh, you can also go easy on the invective. Most of the bloggers and the responders can afford electricity – in case they choose to blog after sunset.

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  • Jai

    Editors of English language newspapers, well most of them, come from the most elite section of the society, convent educated, westernized in their values and morals, completely cut from rest of India. The bloggers on the other hand come the middle class or may be upper middle class, but born in middle class families. Emergence of the middle class cuts the power of the elites and probably that’s why elites are filling uncomfortable.

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  • Saty

    Vir, you need to blog to get a point on bloggers! say that again!!!!!

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  • Pankaj

    So, why blame the channel? Why not blame the viewers?

    If channel start showing porn then will u still blame viewers? yes viewers can “switch off” then tv but then is showing porn on tv Ok?

    means you jourons can do anything but when someone questions you people you start jumping up and down! Grow up dude… you a’int that precious !

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  • Ats

    This is for Vir !!!

    I keep wondering what will happen once the US leaves afghanistan next year, These days countries don’t fight they use “others” to fight for them. So will Pak use the Hizb/Iran model that is assist Taliban do the ” needful” in India. I think some one like Vir ( I like his frank analysis) should mobilise public opion or debate on TV so that the people of this country are aware and ready. I am sick of MNIK/relase , Sharrukhs and that sissy sindhi etc .

    By the way what happened to Pune blast , yet another dossier on the way , I guess !!!

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  • VINOD PANDEY

    Vir, I do feel that most of the blogging and tweeting that we see today is opionated and egoistical-sort of status symbol . Seldom does one get to read a piece which has some semblance of originality . Most of the so called ideas are mere reproductions of opinions expressed by some popular columnists .
    Some of the bloggers suffer from the proverbial foot- in- the-mouth syndrme . They tweet and then tweak as an afterthought . They appeared more intelligent in the pre-blogging days !.
    Some blogs appear to be driven by a fixed agenda of promoting some belief systems . I don’t have any issue with them , save that their traffic blocks the net .

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    abhishek Reply:

    If you stop spewing out vile abuses for a minute, you will realize that you sound more egomaniacal, opinionated and hidebound than the people you are hurling out abuses.

    Your days are over, good old sirs. We are fed up of your patronizing and hindu bashing. To throw your kind of questions back to you – why is having an agenda of promoting a belief system a bad thing? If showing ‘premi ke saath bhagi ladki’ and ‘chat par phansi billi’ kind of news is ok for you, afterall that is what the people want, why cant we have certain belief systems and defend them on the net? Why cant a person twitter and tweak his comments? Who are the royalty who have the first right to use the net traffic? Are you still in the licence quota days? Why, only a person who listens to this obscene filth called news has the right to have an opninion, and those who tweet and blog do not? Is that because they are in a minority? And are they in a minority because the spread of education and awareness of Internet is low? Is it not true that the more education and awareness, spread, the more such bloggers you will have ? Are you, like our garibi hatao politicians, living off people’s poverty and ignorance?

    Every lifeless argument of yours can be torn apart. Why cant you intelligent guys win a single argument anywhere on the net? You think name calling will win you admirers? Descend from your planet get real. I had expected some serious competition, but you guys are going kicking and screaming into the sunset.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sanjay-Choudhry/703891475 Sanjay Choudhry

    Vinod Sharma — Congress ka dalal

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