Mr Modi, India lives in its villages!



An English magazine has aptly described both Narendra Modi and Rahul Gandhi as ‘Corporate Leaders.’

As Modi hopped from one session to the other organised by India Inc (with Rahul making one appearance), I was really wondering who will decide the fate of their respective political party in the 2014 Lok Sabha elections. Certainly not the few attending the five-star meets or those beaming them to the national channels or their audiences, dissecting it to the core at dinner meets – how Rahul had no solutions and how Modi came up with plans for all our problems.

How and why should we debate Modi getting invites from various countries or even denial of visa to him? Why is it that no one is talking about UP chief minister Akhilesh Yadav getting an invite from Harvard to share the successful organisation of the world’s biggest religious congregation Kumbh on the banks of the Ganga. Or for that matter why no one is talking about Madhya Pradesh chief minister Shivraj Singh Chauhan, whose state has achieved highest growth rate.

It’s all to do with how one markets one skills, which also includes political leadership. Till the Gujarat victory, Modi remained glued to his state, but post victory he is all over the country, hogging the limelight with many advising him to avoid overexposure. The fact is that India lives in villages and they are the ones who will again decide who will be the country’s prime minister.

If Modi and his party want him to be the prime minister then he should be addressing rural meets. Same stands true for Rahul.

It’s high time they head to rural India where farmers are dying of poverty, where people are living without water and electricity, where students are holding on to their dreams believing India will one day have a prime minister who will come to them before going to the corporates.

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  • Anonymous

    I think my revealing my profession of being a forensic accountant created a bit of amusement among people and I am happy that it did !

    Let me in my own humble way give a reason why the PM is no longer the pride of India and no longer perceived to be the prince of honesty. Sir, on your blog they have been people who have pointed out that Manmohan Singhji has been troubled and humbled by the signals he has received from Sonia Gandhi. After the advent of UPA II, Sonia seemed to be in a hurry to anoint Rahul as the natural inheritor of the Congress party and the prince ready to take over.

    Rahul’s emergence and the belligerence of his supporters was one single reason why our economist PM withdrew into a shell. What was his strong point, action without noise, was suddenly seen to be his weakness, The Congress effectively shot itself in the foot , mouth and back.

    As someone with some interest in economics I would say that manmohan was a creation of PV Narasmha rao and had his best years under him. His stint in UPA 1 was very good and he would have been the natural choice then as he was without a political base and the Congress needed at that point a PM, without a base. His strength was his intelligence, which has been decimated by the cacophony of noise emanating from the critics in the Congress.

    As a CA I am worried about the fact we have become a nation of scams. The Airport scam which Mohan pointed out — of extending monopoly tenure of a single company– by 30 years could well have meant the end of a government in many a country. In India it would go unnoticed.

    The basii issue boils down to intention and effective administration. frankly the non Congress states– Gujarat, Bihar, MP, Punjab, Tn seem to eb roaring ahead. The PM was an effective adminstrator and economist once. He should stand up and re0ignite his core talent to at least etch his name permanently in Indian history.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rahul’s emergence in UPA II had nothing to do with the problem that the PM started facing. MMS always let Sonia Gandhi handle the party affairs. In UPA 2, Rahul started taking a little proactive interest in the part affairs. So there was no question of Rahul overshadowing MMS.
    The problem was with the coalition compulsion. Particularly with DMK almost branching out with its own agenda, things started becoming difficult. Was the problem small enough to ignore or large enough to be dealt with certain finality? Nobody knew. CWG fiasco combined with 2G scam created a very distrust environment. Then Team Anna’s campaign created the Govt paralysis.These 3 years have been eventful for the wrong reasons.
    Now with DMK on backfoot, MMS could have played the ball nicely, but for TMC. As I see there would be no respite for MMS. TMC will put him on the defensive, while Team Anna would drain his energy.
    He must dump TMC. Take a strong stance against Team Anna and treat them as just another political foe. Then he must put the senior ministers on a fast track.
    That’s only way forward.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He must dump TMC.. In a way it makes me sad a good man like MMS will get thrown in the dustbin along with the crooks!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When the time comes, even good men got to fight it out.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak-

    American commentators compare US democracy to Indian democracy and always wonder why there is no “rule of law” in democratic India. They say “lawless: China is better than India which has law in its books but not in reality.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    India has an elaborate law system, but has problem in execution due to the non-existence of bureaucracy in the remote areas.

    China has law being interpreted and practiced by the local party bosses. The decisions are taken at the local party bosses level. Corruption is rampant at this level, but atleast decisions are implemented quickly.

    Anonymous Reply:

    nn

    Anonymous Reply:

    In a country with “rule of law” there can/will not be the rampant corruption we witness here! We do have stuff on paper only!

    Anonymous Reply:

    The corruption is rampant because of our social milieu.

    A wife keeps taunting her husband for expensive gifts when she knows that with his limited income he can’t afford it. Then she gives example of her neighbour…slowly the husband falls for it and an honest bureaucrat becomes corrupt. No rule of law can prevent this. It can only go away if the family members shun the corrupt money. I know few ladies who sneer at corrupt people ( 95% of people who participated in the candle light procession at India Gate ) while enjoying drinks with their husband’s ill-gotten money.

    The prevention has to start at the family level rather than AT the Govt. level ( UPA/NDA).

    The law has not really prevented the crimes in society, it’s the family values that has kept people away from the crimes.

    Anonymous Reply:

    These Indian wives don’t just stop at branded clothes or few pieces of jewellery they also force their husbands for much more than
    that. That is why we have CWG, 2G, Adarsh, Delhi Airport, Jagan’s crores, Raja’s palace like house. Isn’t it Mr. Pathak.
    At least your point proves that Modi is not corrupt.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not sure which is worse…being corrupt or communal

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    You don’t have to wonder, I am 100% sure that communalism
    is worst than corruption and it is very very easy to spot a person who is communal. Anyone singing Vande Mataram is
    communal, anyone chanting Bharat Mata ki Jai is communal,
    anyone applying a tika on his forehead is communal, anyone
    wearing saffron clothes is a communal, anyone condemning
    the famous painter Mr. Husain is communal, anyone condemining writers Ms. Romilla Thapar, Ms. Roy, Ms.Donniger
    is communal, anyone praising Ms. Taslima Nasreen is communal. And above all if anyone praises Modi he/she should be
    immidiately locked as never know anytime that person wil
    take a sword in his hand and will start killing Muslims.
    Yes, Mr. Pathak, we know what communalism is and who
    are communal in our country.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The viciousness of communalism looks very romantic from a distance, through a coloured glass.

    Yes, you need to feel the heat of communalism close enough atleast once in your lifetime to get it in the right perspective.

    Till then it’s just another word in a dictionary that you can trade for anything cheap.

    Even cheaper over a glass of daaru.

    Anonymous Reply:

    mohan

    GOOD

    manohar_T Reply:

    That is one aspect. The other is letting innocent people get killed in the name of religion. Now when did that happen twice this century?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Corrupt politicians keep communalism alive to exploit vote banks

    Anonymous Reply:

    Corrupt politicians keep communalism alive to exploit vote banks

    Anonymous Reply:

    When somebody gets into crime, he does not stop at small crimes. It just gets bigger.

    The family is still to be blamed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Since people take bribes because of their wives than this proves that Sonia Gandhi and Rahul Gandhi cannot be corrupt
    because both don’t have a wife. Brilliant observation.

    Anonymous Reply:

    good connecting of the dots…ur mind is sharp when u r not drunk….

    Anonymous Reply:

    ha…ha..that’s stretching it a bit far…

    manohar_T Reply:

    kyaa logic hai!

    That does not wash away his acts of commission and omissions in …..

    Plus there is that CAG report (previous blog) – which raises questions without answers as yet. Was waiting for a forensic analysis.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The analyst found the whole thing quite amusing.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sometimes corruption becomes omission and commission depending who is my brother.

    Revathy Reply:

    Its absolutely bizarre……..How can you make such a comment about Indian women that they are enjoying their partner’s ill-gotten money.Days has been changed ,now women are not depending men for their expense coz they are now educated and earning by themselves .How long you can rationalize innocent woman who is working hard for their family and kids to save the ugly faces of tainted bureaucrats and politicians?Instead of wasting time by blaming woman as the root cause of all scams try to react with all possible means.

    Yogesh Reply:

    If a govt. is making please of not promulgating important bills and making decisions for the nation, it ceases to be a govt. If the govt cannot manage its coalition then it should fall or should be made to fall. Government is not a seat to be sat and idled upon, it is a responsibility towards a nation.
    It is hight time that PM should not hide behind Sonia’s saree and deliver .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    One has to have spine, what do you expect a person who insulted democracy by not contesting any direct election.
    Who subverted constitution by going for Note for Vote and making PM subservient to a Party leader?
    Who insulted the temple of democracy Parliament by sitting whole day in Rajya Sabha and not opening his mouth once inspite of the Leader of opposion in Rajya Sabha inviting him to respond for specific points.
    Betrayed the nation with his sense of parliament resolution and written commitment to the nation thru the parliament.

    I know you are die hard supported and would not like it.
    Best thing UPA2 can do now is play the victim by moving revolutionary reformist bills in parliament and let the Govt fall, play the victim.

    It can atleast hope to score 100 in election if held in 2012 and prevent Modi from becoming PM as BJP will need allies and they will only agree on Aruj Jaitley

    Post Gujarat elections no force can stop Modi becoming PM of India.
    In 2013 he will head coalition with BJP having 200 plus seats
    In 2014 he will head BJP own or coalition govt with BJP crossing 250.

    Congress downfall will be triggered from Hyderbad on Jun 15

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    Anonymous Reply:

    vinoo

    MMS and Congress could have resurrected themselves with passing the Lokpal bill, instead of attacking Anan Hazare.. Whether Anna proposals were difficult to implement or not, the willingness would have given a highly symbolic intent with people believing that the Govt/opposition is serious about corruption.

    The way the whole thing was handled put MMS and UPA squarely on the side of corruption unwilling to do anything about it.

    However, BJP behaviour does not get them any additional acceptance;

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The fact that NAC had initiated efforts on Lokpal Bill with Team Anna Members long before Anna came into the picture shows that UPA was as serious about Lokpal as they were about RTI.

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  • Deep

    The PM’s other name was probity and honesty? And which “Fui” gave him that name? I would suggest that the other name for the PM is ineffective and subservient.

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  • Jatinder Goel

    For once people have to face the facts. A person who allows corruption under his watch is more guilty than the people committing the acts. There have been more scams and tremendous amount of money siphoned off while Maun Singh has been warming the PM’s chair. Any decent person with even an ounce of shame, conciseness, self respect or dignity would have resigned long long time ago. The only logical conclusion for Singh to be clinging to his chair is that he is getting a share of the loot or he is getting something special at 10Janpath. His success as the finance minister was due to the great statesman Narasimha Rao. All the credit should go to Mr. Rao for the turn around of the Indian economy. So far India had only 3 great prime ministers, people with guts, honesty, self respect, fore sight and love for the country and they were 1. Lal Bahadur Shashtri 2. Narasimha Rao and 3. Atul Bihari Bajpai. The rest were a disaster for the country and Nehru and Rajeev were the 2 worst in the world.

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  • anil

    Mr. Sharma how to you turn an a s s into a h o r s e ? The reverse might work if you can screw things up in right places but doing things in your suggested way is not feasible, if not impossible!

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  • Anonymous

    There are several huge issues surrounding Jagan Reddy..

    Jagan Reddy is not a sophisticated operator – he declared his assets at 20 or so lakhs in 2004. He did not hide the increase in his wealth when he filed for elections last year.

    He is on auto pilot without the network of his father…The fact that he bargained with Sonia about the CM position when his father’s body was lying in state to be buried shows he neither has shrewed operators behind him nor kingmakers.

    Jagan’s arrest is a strategy to cover up a larger cesspool of corruption and ill gotten richness which YSR drove to himself and the party bosses. The rumour in AP was that Jagan did not have much clue on what his father was doing other than on a need to know basis. Ditto with Vijayamma , his wife.

    Is Jagan’s arrest and charges aimed at cutting off any pointers to 10 Janpath at a future date?
    Why was YSR’s death not investigated?

    I do not have any tears for YSR or Jagan; Is this like a mafia movie where little crooks get killed while the bigger crooks hide behind? Of course, labeling YSR a little crook shows the money being discussed!

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    anil Reply:

    Jagan appear to be a new comer to “New India club”. Had he tried to stash his wealth away like the “grown ups in Indian VVIP culture” do, no one would have known it and certainly he could stay the favorite of Congress singing the Congress song. His inexperience is largely responsible for inviting the wrath of his former bosses and then get into trouble.

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  • anil

    Mr. Sharma, Being in a responsible position as you are now in, your statement that Mr. Singh’s personal integrity is not questioned is unpardonable. Being the PM of one billion people his integrity is limited with his personal integrity. It encompasses the integrity of his Team at the very least if not that of the nation at a later stage. His leadership can ONLY BE TERMED LEADERSHIP depending on how successfully he can keep the b a s t a r d s in his Team at bay (considering it will take a long time for India to get rid of these “honorable and VVIP b a s t a r d s who are holding responsible positions).

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  • Concerned Indian

    MMS is like a Dhrutarastra. He looked other way when our bharat mata was being disrobed by his Congi/DMK/NCP colleagues.
    SG/RG don’t have any leadership quality.True leader takes any adversity head on.All they are good is to hide behind poor MMS.
    Any way,come 2014.We will teach them a good lesson.

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  • Anonymous

    Any news on Vijay Kumar?

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  • JB

    What a task you have taken on yourself! If one wants to discuss and perhaps defend the invisible one is taking more than one can chew. Yes, we have a name for the PM’s position. We see a figure in Lok/Rajya Sabha TV that adorns a seat in Parliament. In fact that picture is popular among Zen masters of the day for teaching students how to sit still. Now is the Indian PM expected to be a Zen example or is he expected to be up and doing? Last we had heard about his forceful presence was during the debates centering Indo US Nuclear Deal when people like you informed lay people like me that he would resign if the party did not support the Deal. Thereafter so much has happened, there have been so many controversies and we have found this learned Professor withdraw more and more, even from issues of economics, into his shell. Is he exhausted?
    Somehow the impression is that he is riding a tiger from which he is also not in a position to alight even if he would love to do so. We understand the compulsions of the party: it cannot have another in that position without generating tidal waves in a situation where the one expected to succeed has not been able to make the mark. In this scenario all your ideas about the party taking charge and the PM being in control are mere speculation about the impossible. To survive, the party cannot postpone the issue of how to find the right person for the highest office and the time has come for evolving the mechanism. The same applies to the other contending party as they too sail in the same boat. Indians never knew and have not learnt yet the art of working together. For preserving our freedom and the shape of our map are we ready to jettison our petty jealousies and learn how to accept another from our midst as a leader and work together?

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    The closing of the Indian mind
    K Shankar Bajpai
    The author is a former ambassador to Pakistan, China and the United States, and a former Secretary, Ministry of External Affairs.

    If war is too serious to be left to generals, our current situation is too serious to be left to politicians. We all have a responsibility — for causing the crisis, no less than trying to cure it

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article3466593.ece?homepage=true

    Excerpts

    This is no passing phase, the growing pains of democracy; we cannot
    delude ourselves of everything turning out fine through our innate
    capabilities or that mysterious protective force which we fondly imagine
    always saves us, or through economic growth — which itself is suffering
    for the same reasons. As even the rosy-eyed trumpeters of India Shining, India Rising, India Unbound now lament, “things are really bad”; they cannot get better without immense, immediate effort.

    Frighteningly, those best positioned to do something seem unaware of
    either the crisis or the spreading despondency. The instruments of state
    have become increasingly dysfunctional, the failure to implement policies or perform even routine duties now aggravated by the failure to take any decisions. There is one root cause: our decisions and behaviour are shaped by considerations unworthy of a serious people. Our once greatest asset, the quality of mind developed through centuries of a great intellectual tradition, has deteriorated; worse, the mind actually applied works at such low levels, and for such low purposes.

    This closing of the Indian mind stunts us by debasing us and imposing a
    conformity that precludes self-correction. In State after State, from
    Karnataka to Rajasthan, Gujarat to Uttarakhand, personal ambitions and
    factional fights consume political energy: not one issue of public interest is involved. The outrageous attack on a great cartoonist is only one triumph of this pernicious mentality. What we did to our greatest painter, to a brilliant study of the variorums of the Ramayana, the vandalising of a scholar’s office, the periodic outbursts against “outsiders” in one State from another, cannot be overlooked as harmless peccadilloes. They encourage intolerance, debase culture and vitiate the policy-making so desperately needed for our future. Most depressingly, governments embrace surrender, the yahoos prevail.

    Such decline goes beyond politics, and that mistrusted tribe, our
    businessmen: standards have plummeted in all walks of life. Teachers,
    lawyers, doctors, every profession finds profit in unprofessionalism.
    That makes salvation more difficult, but we must start somewhere, and
    our politico-administrative complex comes first.

    ==

    A minimum cooperation between parties is not too much to ask for, but it will need pressing for. That is where this sort of nationally-purposed grouping of experts, media and businessmen could work wonders. If nobody is willing, disasters are inescapable — and will come all too soon.

    Iqbal’s warning has become imperative:

    Vatan ki fikar kar, nadaan/ musseebat aanay wali hai/ teri barbadiyon ke mashware hain aasmanoon mein/Na samjhoge to mitt jaoge, Hindustan wallo/Teri dastaan tak na rahegi daastanon mey.

    “Worry about your country, idlers, misfortunes are coming your way. Indications of your disasters are fluttering in the sky. Fail to understand, Indian folk, and you will be erased, even your history will not remain part of history.”

    ==

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    Anonymous Reply:

    TTime to handover to military (may be they are also compromised under the politicos and babus).. Let them get the basics under control, let them build good roads and schools, let them force people to be good citizens – at least a t a basic level of cleanliness, public driving, etc etc –(“trains used to run on time during emergency”).. Then after some years, when we are like S Korea or Taiwan, get back to the mess of the people, by the people, for the people..This country cannot go on like this,

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We had emergency before. Then how come we are in this mess?
    You want a perpetual emergency ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That emergency was a fake one. It was the maa-beta tyranny imposed on a spineless nation.

    AshishC Reply:

    Gopi,
    I do not want to be another Pakistan, thank you.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I m thinking of a Turkey model – get systems and behaviours in place before elections.. army has receded in the background and the country has realized Attaturk’s vision

    AshishC Reply:

    My fear is we are genetically closer to Pakistanis than Turks..

    AshishC Reply:

    My fear is we are genetically closer to Pakistanis than Turks..

    manohar_T Reply:

    What happened to your dream of Modi as the PM? Is he not capable of fixing this country, that you now want the country to be another Pakistan?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am all for Modi, Modi will fix this fr—g mess of Congress sh—.
    But Modi is in “Chakra Vyuha” set by others.. He has to get out of it, but it may be too late for the Republic’ survival

    Anonymous Reply:

    That fr…g Modi can’t do a fr…g thing till the time that fr…g Advani is around.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    with all your burning hatred for Advani, the time has come for this fr…g government to fade into oblivion and for all the fr…g servants of the family to pack their bori-bistar and get lost.

    Modi is time is near, unlike the time when you servants of the family used to say, “Modi? Never in a thousand years”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I have been hearing that fr…g thing for fr…g many years. That next fr….g september this Govt will fall and the fr….g oppostion will come to fr…k the country. But this fr…g opposition is so fr…g impotent that it can’t stand on its fr….g own. it always looks for a fr….g V P Singh to deliver a fr….g chance. Shame on this fr…g opposition.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Till now you have only been hearing “things” about this fr….g government. Now you have yourself begun to wail “sab lut gaya……., mataji ko bulao………scalpel kahaan hai…….nurse…… nurse……, yeh doctor ki sarkar dum thod raha hai……mataji ko bulao…..jaldi……jaldi…”.

    manohar_T Reply:

    It was predicted here on this blog that the UPA government would fall by Feb 2012 and happy days would be here again for the BJP, sleepwalking to power. So much for RSS branded astrology.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Was the prediction by some astrologer?

    manohar_T Reply:

    A person who gets trapped in ‘Chakra Vyuha’ set by others, actually it is of his own doing, and that too for over 10 years (speaks volumes) is not fit to be the Prime Minister of India. If he cannot extricate himself, what are you talking about he extricating India out of its present situation. Try something else.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Bajpai, while pointing to problems, try to put all in one bucket.

    Cartoon issue is different from the painting issue different from the ramayan issue.
    Govt and politicians went with the cartoon “lobby”. They did not do that with the painting issue. And in the Ramayana issue they sat on the sidelines indicating it is a “university decision”..
    Why should we have universities under govt? America, famous for its university systems, as far as I know, do not have any University where the state govt or central govt has any control over any university – be it CalTech or Berkely or whatever.

    We should stop the five year development plans – instead should have
    two year fixing plans – ie fixing PWD, fixing procurement, fixing hospitals etc …

    .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    No. The Govt. had just come back to functioning after the long unrest by Anna & Co.
    I guess they didn’t want to get distracted by another silly controversy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This Shankar Vajapayee is another servant of the “Family”.

    Neither is M.F.Husain the greatest painter, nor has Shankar Pillai been insulted by the cartoon controversy.

    It is the avoidable inclusion of the cartoon in a text book that is condemnable.

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  • Anonymous

    There are many brave men who always want to fight and be adventurous

    Some join Army
    And others get married.

    Good morning friends.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “There are many brave men who always want to fight and be adventurous…”
    But, when the adversary is a woman, the men are, in the end, left only with their dentures.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    You have outdone yourself. Great.

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  • AshishC

    I think, the way our country is “progressing”, by 2019, it will have Mamata as PM.
    When we had Deve Gowda as PM, I thought we had reached the nadir; turns out we had not seen anything, yet.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Ashish

    What makes you say so? Have you been doing some crystal gazing from the wrong end?

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    AshishC Reply:

    General despondency.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    India reaches its nadir dhire, dhire se.
    As in other things here too slow and unsteady dips the country to its nadir.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    good one, shenoy

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  • AshishC

    Sindhi on his death bed. My wife,
    where are you ?

    Wife:Yes, I’m here

    Sindhi : My sons, daughters, are you all here?

    Kids : Yes, Papa

    Sindhi:To phir barabar wale kamre ka pankha kyu chal
    raha hai?
    Good morning, Mohan :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish,

    Thanks. I have many many jokes on Sindhis will share with you guys.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Marvellous take ashish !

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  • Anonymous

    How come BJP has not nominated Anna as the Presidential candidate?
    Do they want him in active politics ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    because they do not have a clue..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    For Anna it would have been a life going in a full circle. As the head of all services ! Wow !

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  • Anonymous

    Mr Vinod Sharma wrote ” The Singh-Sonia combine must find ways to restore the PM’s authority, the government’s credibility and the Congress’s acceptability.”
    This gives away the cause of the problem, which the Congress Party and its supporters know but refuse to acknowledge. The PM of India has to look towards Sonia Gandhi , an extra -constitutional authority, for restoration of his authority. The PM of India does not have any authority of his own and has always to look at the person breathing down his neck. And this what the country says.about this PM and his govt….Can it be denied that the Congress is treating him as Shikhandi .. a cover behind which they hide and loot and plunder.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Be it MMS or Vajpayee. A good PM stand tall in the front. others take shelter behind their PM.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That was witty.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    MMS… standing tall.? ..where ? Is he allowed to stand ?
    On a serious note.. the PM can be accused of corruption. A simple perusal of the ” Transaction of Business Rules” of the Government of India shall be self -explanatory that all files where the Govt of India is defending itself against charges of malfeasance would have been signed by the PM himself.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    MMS stood taller than Vajpayee.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ” The Premier’s stock is on the decline even among the more reasonable, understated people. There’s an all-round atmosphere of disillusionment with his regime at libraries, the neighborhood mother dairy, the metro rail and clubs with members boasting of erudition.”

    Anonymous Reply:

    That is because he wears a foot high pagdi!

    Anonymous Reply:

    By physical structure, MMS is rather puny.
    Most of the cartoons only show his pagadi prominently.
    And he is generally depicted as one who has forgotten to stand erect, leave alone stand tall. The indelible impression is that Sardar Manmohan Singh is a ji hozoor-e-walah.

    Contrastingly, Vajapayee had no reason to bend before anybody and all pictures, cartoons and write-ups show the man standing always tall.

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  • Anonymous

    The Forensic analyst is amused becasue he never gives forensic analysis just based on reports in the newspapers. If the CAg has made a charge, I will go by him– till I have requisite data to dispute it.

    As far as the Congress goes, I am tempted to comapre it to a family owned corporation where the owner demolishes his own CEO through politics to foist his own son. Many companies have fallen to the wayside becasue of this. Congress is just one of them.

    Gopi, Vijay and Binoy had written marvellous pieces on the historical demise of the family owned politics. I see it every day in corporate governance. Extending my analogy a little further, the family owned Congress had three major shareholders– Sonia, Rahul and Priyanka. Robert vaadra is a shareholder by default, though a very ambitious one. The rest of the Congress arrangement of Chdiambaram, Sibal, Pranab etc are shareholders without voting rights.

    In this arrangement , by accident they got in a capable CEO, called MMS. As it is nobody in the country or media expects, Sonia , Rahul or Robert to know the population of the country, the size, the economy, the foreign policy etc.
    Unfotunately like i any Lala company, the owner saw that the ambitions of her progeny being blocked by the capabilty of the CEO. Like a Mom and Pop store, like a true family owned business… they set about demollishing their capable CEO, to the extent that the comany is now BADNAAM Company!

    Gopi, Vijay and Binoy had got in some serious and enlghtenining discussions on why India needs to move away from fuedal slavery. This is my contribution
    to it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    The startups are great family owned business. The entrepreneurship, commitment to the business is second to none. India is the land of entrepreneurs. Why just India, many great brands all over the World are family driven.

    Mukesh Ambani hired the best of the talents from Levers and all over to launch Reliance Mobile in a professional manner. It fell flat. It forced Ambani & Co to take the charge and in just 12 months the Reliance telecom reached where others had taken 7 years to reach.

    The list is endless.

    So the focus must be on the “delivery”.

    Not on the “person” delivering.

    Even your forensic accounting focuses on the delivery, not on the person/agent.

    Time we imbibed that very essence.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Strongly disagree. This is more like the Marcos family hegemony.
    edison never wished that only his sons make the bulns and nobody else. Ericcson never banned anybody outside his family from mobile telephony.
    Governance and administration fo the country is different from that of a PVt ltd company.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,
    You took the pretense of the Corporates, hence was the reply.

    The Governance and Administrations are always in the hands of bureaucrats. it has never been passed on to any family.

    The leaders can come from anywhere. They connect, provide the strategic direction and lead.

    A bad leader can come from a family or elsewhere. Same with a good leader.

    In bollywood, many filmy families have launched their children Only the best survived. Others just fizzled out. Same with the politics.

    A Shewag wouldn’t give a damn if the bowler is a son of a Kapil Dev. He bats and plays to win. He does not crib.

    Time we made a distinction.

    Anonymous Reply:

    When I was in Phillipines, the same thing was said to justify the rule of Imelda Marcos and her husband. Before that the Shah of Iran said the same. India is supposed to be musch better is;nt it?

    Anonymous Reply:

    India is a better country. it has given you the power of democracy. Find a good leader who will lead and replace the present regime.

    In this country even Indira Gandhi could be defeated through the standard election process !

    But i detaste people who crib and curse others because of their own incompetency and impotence. Actually, a bad performer in bed makes more vocal noise just to prove himself and others that he is performing. The opposition is like that. Instead of strengthening their own base they keep abusing Sonia. Atleast she is better than these so called son of the soil leaders who are supposed to know and feel the pulse of the Indians. But she comes, goes for a few road shows and forms a Govt all over again quietly.

    Instead of arguing in favour of these incompetent opposition leaders, shake them up from their slumber and ask them to deliver a true national leader.

    Time we did a reality check.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ” But she comes, goes for a few road shows and forms a Govt all over again quietly. ”
    Some crib…. and some day dream.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The Cribbers actually are the day dreamers.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “All this would need a magic wand which nobody in the UPA has— not yet. A scalpel then should do to for some surgery at the top before the presidential election”

    Anonymous Reply:

    A castrated government needs no further surgery.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And the non-performers get nightmares.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Actually, a bad performer in bed makes more vocal noise just to prove himself and others that he is performing……”

    But, this government has shown that it has been castrated.
    Who cares whether it grunts in bed or screams out of ecstasy?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sad, you never got to know the difference.
    And it’s rather late, now.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Great brands all over the world are family driven?????

    (Apple, Coca Cola, GE, Master Card, Pepsi (these two have Indian CEOs now)………????

    I do not know if there is any major American brand that is family owned and driven…. There may be some Italian family owned brands; but most probably they may be in niche high fashion, and not in universal products..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Oh we have seen the difference in passion between Steve Jobs and John Sculley.
    In India many ceo’s are just parasites. They are more concerned with the personal capital than the corporate capital.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Even I was somewhat amused when the forensic expert scooted twice in the previous blog and made a appearance here. Probably lost his nerve there. ‘Amusement’ can do strange things to the experts.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vinoo;
    Wonderful analysis. Thanks

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am visiting US now. I learn new tidbits each time of my visit. One thing I learned this time is that this Monday (Memorial Day) is the official campaign start for the Presidential election.

    I listened to a couple of speeches by Mitt Romney – there was never an accusation of corruption against Obama administration. I am sure if the roles were reversed, a contender Obama will not have any corruption charges against an incumbent Romney .. Imagine a political campaign in India, be at corporation, assembly, or parliament levels.

    People , in general , are greedy everywhere. The greed of US financiers destroyed the world almost.. But their politics and politicians seem to not get involved in bribes. Part of it may be the laws and the systems of prosecution. I am told that the ex Governor of Illinois was recently sentenced for 10 years in jail just for discussing about money in return for nominating a senator to replace Obama’s senate seat. The man never took a dollar in bribe for this, but there was evidence that he had an intention!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    It will take us decades to reach that stage.

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  • Anonymous

    Vinoo,

    when there is a death and foul play is suspected, the dead body is sent to a forensic science lab.

    Here, a whole government is dead and there is definite proof that it has been killed by the congress party and its president. Therefore, it needs to be sent to a forensic analyst for a proper post-mortem to be conducted on the carcass of the government, though we already know the causes of death.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When you know the cause of death then there is no need of a post-mortem. If you do then you have a different intent.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    my intent is not the subject of discussion here.
    Who killed MMS sarkar? -That is the question. A postmortem will certainly reveal whether death was due to poison (communal, as in Digvinash) or by asphyxiation (as in Sonia-Rahul joint squeeze) or both.

    I have a sneaking doubt that Vinodji already knows who killed MMS sarkar.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    A good reply.

  • Anonymous

    The party is now a private business of mom and pop
    the Bharat sarkar is headed by a nincompoop
    To install her son on the government’s top
    To any extent t the loving mom is prepared to stoop.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You said it !
    This was the title of a Sudhir dar Cartoon box in HT for years in my youth1
    Shenoy Sahab You have said it !

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  • Anonymous

    This new Disqus is quite interesting. Based on the AJAX model, it updates asynchronously and also puts notification tags without refreshing.
    But this is a nightmare on small tablets. Hope bloggers have noticed all new features .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The only Ajax I know about is a Dutch Football club based in Amsterdam.
    Good morning PathakG.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good morning Ishwar, You have been infrequent !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar, Gopi, Vinoo, Mohan, Praveen Saxenaji, Pankaj ji,

    Ek ’sher’ pesh kar raha hoon:

    मत डरो अधियारे-अब भोर होने वाला है
    गर्जना सुन पा रहा हु-कोई शेर आने वाला है
    जल रहा है पूरा भारत -अब शासन हिलने वाला है ।

    आज सुना है अपने कानो से -मोदी आनेवाला है ।।

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Your bad,

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  • Anonymous

    Vinodji is candid enough to admit that netizens have net-manhandled him and he is badly bruised on his twitter.

    What he has left unsaid is that these attackers are all internet-Hindus.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have just checked out his Twitter profile. The so-called attack was very mild. Manohar and PathakG get attacked more vociferously here for nothing and Mr. Sharma (hopefully) gets paid to spin stories for the ruling party!!

    Sharma ji, no offences meant. I wish that everyone gets paid for their hard work.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Oh, one does indeed gets rewarded, if not paid, for hard work for the family or its party. No matter it goes against the nation. There are others who slog free, for the nation, like the army.

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  • Anonymous

    Dhadkan bina dil ka matlab hi kya
    roshani bina diye ka matlab hi kya
    kyun kehte hain log ki mohabbat na kar, dard milta hai
    wo kya jane ki dard bina mohabbat ka matlab hi kya…

    (poetry lifts low spirits, I have lifted peotry itself……… from facebook.)

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  • Anonymous

    Pathak Saab,

    ‘ the viscuousness of communalism looks very romantic from a distance
    Through a colored glass even cheaper over glass of daaru.’ This is what
    you opined about me.

    I will not elaborate on this subject but will just say this.

    Yes, I personally have not faced the viscuousness of communalism as I was
    very small at that time. People very close to me – my parents and grand parents – had faced this and I have heard lot of horrible stories from them. That is why when anyone trivialize communalism by labeling people as communal who sing Vande Mataramand and wear saffron it makes me angry. My earlier post was my anger speaking not the usual Mohan you know.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    During a college election, a group was canvassing for a particular candidate. The group was shouting the candidate’s name then followed by Bharat Mata ki jai.
    I asked one of the student what Bharat Mata had to do with a candidate in college election?
    ” Tum saale nehi samjhoge…” he retorted and moved on while breaking a lamp in the corridor with his flag.
    Unfortunately, I didn’t understand juxtapositioning Bharat Mata ki jai slogan and his forceful hit on the lamp in the corridor.

    =====
    Read Anandmath by Bankim Chandra

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    Anonymous Reply:

    PathakG,

    I must say you are wasting your talent here. If you can write such stories at the drop of a proverbial hat, you should use it at better places.

    By the way, can you also write similar stories for the supporters of Bharat Mata ki jay (for/without a consideration)?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When you grow old and experience life’s vignette, you too can quote incidents at the drop of a hat.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    at the present moment, all those who say “Bharat Mata ki jai” or Vande Mataram” are enemies of the terribly secular Pandit Vinod Govindram Pathak.

    In an atmosphere of bonhomie between India and Pakistan, these war cries spell Hindu communalism and are anathema to PanditG.

    Anonymous Reply:

    War cries!!
    What Vande Mataram got to do with the war cries?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak Saab,

    What is the connection between your this story and forming an opinion about me?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Read Anand math, by Bankim Chandra.
    Recall my story after you finish reading the book and then recall your comment.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak Saab,

    As usual you are avoiding like a politician.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do not understand your statement “what Bharat Mata has to do with a college election”
    A College election, and all elections for that matter, should and must relate to the country – an inch of progress here, there for the country.I blogged about an observation about the presidential contest here (US). The oath of allegiance to the flag, “colours presentation” by individuals associated with armed forces etc are accepted standards here for any public function, including high school and university sports events.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Oh the sentence was:

    what Bharat Mata had to do with a candidate in college election?

    manohar_T Reply:

    It is that heady cocktail of ‘patriotism’, ‘nationalism’ and ‘hindutva’. This has been concocted in a Nagpur bar.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    manohar;
    We are back, where we started from.
    So let us examine this Cocktai urf, murge ki rangeen poonchh.
    with what ingredient of this cocktail, you have objection?
    A. Patriotism?
    B. Nationalism??
    C. Hindutva???
    I believe, it is Hindutva. Why, what does this Hindutva tell us. do I practice hindutva? dp you practice Hindutva??, do we practice, collectively- Hindutva???. Kindly define this Hindutva to me. I will be thankful to you personally.

    manohar_T Reply:

    1) First of all. No one seems to answer the query raised by Pathak.

    “what Bharat Mata had to do with a candidate in college election”?

    Were there candidates from across the border contesting the elections and was a fight between India and our neighbour?

    2) I have explained this earlier, perhaps many momths back.

    Hindutva is an attempt to make Hindu religion a monolithic one (with the RSS as its Vatican) and to make all other indigenous religions as subservient to it, making them accept the suzerainty of the Hindu ‘religious’ texts. In fact, many years ago, the head of the RSS had unilaterally made an announcement to this effect. When the Sikhs, Buddhists and Jains protested, the RSS backed off. The Abrahamic religions do not count in the scheme of things.

    I wonder if you took the trouble of watching the documentary = Raam Ke Naam by Anand Patwardhan. the links to which were provided by Mahesh. It would give you more insights as to what Hindutva is all about. If you haven’t, then it is your problem.

    I do not know if anyone remember this. During the advent of NDA rule, a visit by Ashok Singhal (in his trade mark attire) was arranged to some army unit. There, efforts were made for the soldiers and perhaps officers to touch the feet in reverence towards this ‘high priest’ of Hindutva. We can only imagine as to what purpose this attemptwas being made. When the rank and file of that regiment protested, Ashok Singhal and Co. backed off. What was the need for Ashok Singhal to visit the regiment (and would not have been possible without the clearance by the MOD – George Fernandes) and visit to more regiments would have followed, if the gamble had paid off? He held no position in the Government. Was this (blatant) attempt to switch the allegiance of the army towards ……….?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Read Anand Math. You will get all the answers.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    I have not read the novel but seen the movie. Very inspirational.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb is right. You do not make sense with this *** bit of recollection or quotation. Perhaps you think all the blog mates here except the congressi troll, are all ullus.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If you are hell bent on calling yourself as Ullu, be my guest.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Right on.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please keep your guest room ready; I may even accept your invitation at its face value, ullu that I am.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Right on.

  • Anonymous

    Corruption, especially non-responsive corruption is a major problem — One thing Tamilians (and outside observers) will agree is that Karunanidhi govt executed well, while amassing huge amounts and real properties in bribe.

    I agree with Gopi that the huge five year plan and allocations should be scrapped and in its place a series of short term fix issues should be initiated. These large lakhs of crores binitiatives – cattle feed, health, nrega, you name it – are essentially a pillar of corruption.

    We do not need central govt five year plans any more — We have had it for 70 years.

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  • pankaj#1

    Manohar;
    you wrote sometime back that corruption is as old as world and one should just wink wink and nudge ndge. What about the oldest profession?

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    manohar_T Reply:

    No one is suggesting wink and nudge. It was the exclusivity that you were alluding to. Corruption does not know colour, caste, creed or political ideology. maukaa milne par, bahot kam log haath nahi.n maarte.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Agree;
    Corruption does not relate with any attributes you described,but those people can not be taken as inspirational people. Even in your life time, you must have met some people , who will not get corrupt, even when they could have amassed huge money. Most recent name comes to my mind is Shreedharan of Metro fame. These people should be the role models and not the scums, who strutt in Indian political theaters as NETAS.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The interesting part is that sreedharan worked in Delhi, the hotbed of Dallas and with the same set of politicians.

    So I guess it’s individual driven. If somebody wants to work honestly, one definitely can work.

    I have met few Section Officers who command enormous respect even from the secretary in Govt of India due to their honesty and professional approach to work.

    I believe honesty or corruption comes from the family values.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak
    I do not know about “family values”…. there may be some tribal/regional type influence (rightly or wrongly jews are always attributed financial fraud)..

    I think in an Indian perspective, it is mostly an “individual” thing. Nehru, with all his faults, was not a corrupt man. Indira Gandhi was, again may not be for personal gain. her son Sanjay was numero ono corrupt guy.

    Chidambaram may not be, but Karthik seems to be…

    Anonymous Reply:

    yes, you are right. Even in the same family we had two opposite characters I.e. Sanjay and Rajiv.

    But all honest guys have great family values that I have noticed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    is there something amiss in what you say, at least regarding the corruption in the Gandhi family?

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Totally agree.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj/Gopiji,

    According to Pathak all men are corrupt because o f their
    wives. I can proudly say that until now both my unmarried
    sons are not corrupt.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That description was more apt to the Govt. Babus.
    A businessman’s son does not need a wife to get corrupted.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Businessmen are corrupt they do not need a wife to
    get corrupted is it because the business environment in India is such that one
    has no choice but to become corrupt.?

    manohar_T Reply:

    Family values is only one part of the reasons. A person is a creature of the (wider) environment.

    There is no reason to assume 1) chor kaa beTaa, chor. 2) imaandaar kaa beTaa, imaandaar. or 3) khooni kaa beTaa, khooni. That was the central message of the Raj Kapoor’s Awara (1953).

    A person may go astray for many reasons. For example, many take up arms and become outlaws when the crimes against them do not elicit any action from the authorities and no justice. Phoolan Devi!

    Having said – how does one explain the serial killers? The combination of genes the person acquired from his/her mother and father?

    Coming back to corruption. Very few people would be satisfied with their present lot (and rightly so), because that is what drives humanity to have a better life style and progress & development. How does one improve his/her lot? Some take the straight route and others choose the crooked path (easy money). In most cases, a person gets habituated to life of wrong doing and probably enjoying it too, after finding how easy it is and getting caught are remote.

    Final point, money/wealth is one of the steps to power – the ultimate aphrodisiac.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Later Raj Kapoor made another movie – Dharam Karam _.
    In that he showed Chor ka beta chor – Sharif ka beta Sharif.
    Maybe that is why this movie failed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    you are right. Awara went to prove that it is circumstances of one’s upbringing that shape one’s destiny. Dharam Karam was the anti-thesis of Awara.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankajji
    You are right. There are dedicated, honest servants of the country like Mr Sridharan. Defence Minister Antony is a simple Gandhian (but obviously not a capable administrator as the recent “general Singh” fiasco has shown). The ex CM of Kerala, Achuthanandan is a clean and honest servant of the country. My impression of Nitish and Modi are that they are not financially corrupt – but ambitious men, I do not hold ambition (if for public good) negative.

    Sheshan was a dedicated servant of the country, determined to be a man and not a rubber stamp – we all should be thankful to him for the election reforms . At least the process is corrected.. Assuming we have a pre-Sheshan system now, a Mayawati would not be thrown out, a Karunannidhi will not be thrown out, CPM would not have been thrown out in WB… …

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Agree Gopiji with you.
    As a counter part of evil, goodness exists, so does honesty exists juxtaposed to corruption. requirement is to identify those people and have them recognized. They do not crave for recognition but it will be good for society itself. Public humiliation of proven corrupts is also essential.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    I may be at odds with many here; but my anecdotal evidence says corruption/extent of its “penetration” etc is not uniformily distributed ..there is a difference among regions, communities , religions, caste etc etc .

    Make one observation in future – which auto riksha drivers generally charge more than the meter charges – my experience has been that Hindu drivers consistently charge more than what the meter shows; whereas Muslim drivers just ask for the meter charges. (and now if you ask me what about Christian drivers, there are no Christian drivers here, they all have graduated in bigger and better things – plantations, software…..just kidding)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    blink blink,m fudge fudge.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Mohan was defining communalism, is there any other definition around??

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    Please don’t take views of cheap drunkard seriously.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Don’t get emotional. Reread what I had posted:

    mohanrr:

    The viciousness of communalism looks very romantic from a distance, through a coloured glass.

    Yes, you need to feel the heat of communalism close enough atleast once in your lifetime to get it in the right perspective.

    Till then it’s just another word in a dictionary that you can trade for anything cheap.

    Even cheaper over a glass of daaru.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak Saab

    I had replied you on this but it seems you did not read that.
    Anyway just leave it at that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    To understand the depth of what you replied, take an opportunity to read Anand Math.
    I promise it would be a worthwhile experience.

  • pankaj#1

    Vijay;
    Ab maan bhi jao. Itna to Jamai Raja bhi manuhaar nahin karwate.

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  • pankaj#1

    Shenoy sahab;
    Wow.
    Thanks for the Kavitts.

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  • Anonymous

    About the daily ceremony at the Waugah border – I was not aware that as a part of the ceremony, Pakistanis (per this article), and may be Indians too use foul language/words against the sisters and daughters and mothers of the people on the other side of the border……
    Why would Indians celebrate this **** every day?
    NYTimes today

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/opinion/shouting-in-the-mirror.html?smid=pl-share

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    manohar_T Reply:

    The whole ceremony is sickening. It is about time, it is stopped. Let the soldiers sit together and have some ‘tea and samosas’ every evening.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar-
    Military exercises, pomp etc has a role and place.. e.g the change of guard at the Buckingham palace..

    The shouting, marching etc at the border may be OK, but not get degenerated into calling the women on the other side, especially the women of the soldiers these bad stuff..

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Exercise and pomp have their place. The one at Wagah every evening, IMO, is bizarre and crude. If I had the authority, I would have got it stopped, at least from our side.

    I believe the use of foul language (common on this blog too) is indulged in by the (extremists) spectators from both sides of the border.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    About six years back while in Amritsar i had visited Wagah border and
    had watched this ceremony. Yes, there was lot of slogan shouting like
    Bharat Mata ki Jai and Hindustan Zindabad Pakistan murdabad. Patriotic
    songs at loud voice were being played but I did not hear anyone using
    abusive language. Everything went very smoothly, parade, march of the
    soldiers, people clapping and all. I did not find peope showing any hatredness towards anyone. It was a different kind of experience for me.
    And Indian soldiers were not 7 feet tall.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, Binoy,

    both of you are right, but only partially.

    There used to be friendly abuse from both sides till about 2003.

    When our friend Vinodji crossed the Wagah border in the August company (or was it July?) of Atal Bihari Vajapyee in 2003, he used his good offices with the Pakistanis to stop this abuse. He had used his trump card-”you see, we are one and the same people, only, we are separated at birth”. And it has worked ever since.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Who else but only Shenoy can up with like this.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Yes, who else for banalities?

  • Anonymous

    Vinod’s title is MMS’ “agni pariksha”..

    There are three critical elements In the mythological agni pariksha in Valmiki Maharshi’s Ramayana.

    - One who orders; (he has to be above others in Karma and Dharma)
    - One who has to prove (he/she is not a general street person who dabbles in vices or commits crimes; he/she has led a virtuous life; but a situational logic has arisen that has to be dealt with)
    - and an unadulterated “‘beyond doubt” cleanser/purifier (“Agni” in our mythology, tradition, and customs)

    This agni pariksha does not qualify as agni pariksha on any grounds –

    Who is the virtuous person who orders? (Sonia??)
    Who has to prove ?(MMS has become a “street person”, too many complaints, too many inactions… unlike Sita who was to prove only one supposed mistake..her impeccability until then was not in question)
    And lastly Agni — Even Agni is polluted and corrupt in our environment of today.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji

    Nice description of Agni Pareeksha.

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    AshishC Reply:

    Vintage Gopi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Bahut khoob ! excellent !

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  • Anonymous

    @ Pankaj ji

    My hunt for Vijay is still on. With college shut down for summer break, I still have 3 days here before I scoot of to my home town. Yesterday I was at Ambience in Gurgaon. There was a guy in dark glasses, T shirt and jeans discussing buildings, seated next to my table. I kept my focus tuned onto the conversation.

    In case this guy is going to talk about Naukery, dynasty, Tora Bora, Bio Physics or girls…. I would have pounced upon him and dragged him to this blog and announced I have found Vijay. Alas it did not happen…

    Vijay, a reward of 20 litres of draught beer has been announced on your head!

    YOU ARE WANTED !! DEAD OR ALIVE !!!!

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks Parvez;
    Do not go to 38 miles, that is my territory. ha-
    If you go back to Moradabad- try to look for Shukla mohalla, do not know whether it still exists. A very dear friend use to live there, 2-3 generations back. Also have some sporitual connection with Rampur, because of music,Ustad Abdul Karim Khan saheb, was part of the court.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Pankaj

    Ustad Abdul Karim Khan reciting raag Malkauns.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw7xoTMvmdU

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Karim_Khan

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks Manohar;
    I am proud (in a positive way) that we share many things.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Listen to this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1njgYjcww

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks Manohar;
    Thanks Manohar, a beautiful song, sung by a beautiful person.
    I was surprised that in pakistan, classical Hindustani Music is surviving. Do not associate pakistanis with Fan e lateefi.

    manohar_T Reply:

    I do not know the state of Hindustani Music (they prefer to call it classiki mausiki) in Pakistan today, but it was very active up to late 80s. You may recall the following names

    1. Ustad Amanat Ali Khan & Ustad Fateh Ali Khan – the latter an absolute delight to hear. He is a master of taans.

    Listen to Ustad singing raag Jaunpuri

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwPFc5uYWaU

    2. Ustad Amanat Ali Khan & Ustad Salamat Ali Khan

    3. Roshan Ara Begum.

    to name a few.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    I was speaking of present day pakistan. yes, in yester years, many artists had gone to pakistan. As far as bade gulam ali khan was concerned, he was a legend himself. proud product of patiala gharana.

    manohar_T Reply:

    In fact, even Bade Ghulam Ali Khan had gone over to Pakistan, but found the atmosphere not very conducive for his art, though he used to spend more time in India than in Pakistan, as he was very much in demand. Then on Pandit Nehru’s request, he opted for Indian citizenship sometime in 1957 and settled in Calcutta.

    More about him tomorrow.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    I would love to share posts with you there. Waiting for your tomorrow.
    I am only slightly relaxed, in business front, things move with lightening speed and I may not be able to keep pace with events.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks for the links.
    How about making it regular on every Friday late evening ?

    manohar_T Reply:

    Will do.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    After reading you, I myself went to wikipedia and found that , court musician of Rampur was not Abdul karim Khan, but one WAZIR KHAN, a direct descendent of Tansen. I was thinking about ustad Allaudin khan of maihar, a legend during his living. Read about him in wiki.. you will enjoy. It is said that to learn from Wazir khan, allaudin use to sit out side the door of his room, as he was not allowed to come in. After he sat there for some 20 years, yes, 20 years, he was allowed to come in and learn. rest is history.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Ustad Allaudin Khan.

    Yes, I visited Maihar sometime in 1968-69 and spent about 8 hours there. Nice quintessential small town.

    My interest in classical music goes back many years. My favourite vocalists happen to be from Patiala Gharana, which includes arguably the greatest of them all – Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan. The current torchbearer of this gharana is Pandit Ajoy Chakravarti. One of stalwarts was an Afghani – Ustad Mohammad Hussain Sarahang

    Enjoy raag Sindhu Bhairavi by Ustad Sarahang,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zf1xVfBn_0

    His recital in New Delhi 1981

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SCauPUm-l0

  • pankaj#1

    All;
    I was an admirer of MMS. I have nothing against Sonia or Rahul personally. I like priyanka. I loath Robert Vadera. My unhappiness is with present lethargy/ paralysis of this government and divisive politics it played to gather votes and to foist Rahul on gaddi. principled politics of yore, no, no, not 100 years back, but some 30 to 40 years back, that has been lost, it seems, for ever.

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  • Anonymous

    Earlier Hindustan Zindabad and Pakistan Zindabad was discussed.
    This reminds me of a joke I had heard a while ago.

    In Karachi a ***** gave birth to the litter of puppies. One of the puppy some
    time after the birth shouted Pakistan Zindabad, Hindustan Murdabad.
    People around were surprised and happy. This puppy after every 3-4 hours would shout the same slogan. He was named Hafiz Saeed. In about two weeks this news reached
    parliament and everyone was very excited and immidiately Zardari, Gilani
    and Army chief Kayani decided to visit this dog. Next day all three reached
    Karachi in Clifton area where this dog was. People there took them where this dog was sleeping and told them that since last 2-3 days this dog had gone quiet and was not saying anything . They all three went near the dog and requested Hafiz Saeed the dog
    to repeat what he use to say earlier. Hafiz the dog slowly opened his eyes and shouted.
    ” Hindustan Zindabad Pakistan Murdabad”. All three were shocked and asked
    him why this turn around?. Dog smiled and replied ” Ab meri aankhein khul gayi hai”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gen Kayani would have instantly ordered serial rape of the India-loving dog.

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  • Anonymous

    It looks like Viju has been kidnapped by the First Family for his constant tirade against them..

    Worse, he is put in their naukary

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This surely is the job of one of the naukars.

    Vijay Kumar hates the naukarshahi of some of the bloggers and the blog master with all his heart.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is unlike Vijay. I hope everything is Ok with him

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan sahab
    I think he had mentioned that he had to travel for work and then that had got delayed. Hopefully he must be swimming on a beach.
    Yes his masala flavour is missing for now.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Don’t worry. He is in the ridge collecting wood for Agni Pariksha.

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  • Anonymous

    Taking it personally.

    Will quit if Team Anna’s charges are proved: PM

    Now, would he also quit if investigations against a few of his cabinet colleagues finds them guilty? Would he at least allow investigation into the charges against his cabinet colleagues?

    I am happy that the PM has chosen not to duck the charges. The media’s silence on the Team Anna’s charges is conspicuous. They have provided air/print space to Aishwarya’s dress at Cannes, SRK’s celebrations at Eden and Poonam Pandey’s strip act and what not, but Anna and his team are getting the ex-girlfriend treatment. They were their darling not long back – what has changed? No one is talking about them and the serious charges – the only things that gets reported is the ‘rifts’ in the team.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Media is very powerful. If most of them join together they can make or
    break anyone.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar, Vinoo,

    MMs can resign if charges are proved. Since he can resign only once, he will wait for all charges against all the 14 ministers accused by Anna are proved. It may take just 25 years.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    MMS is the honest mukhot behind which chaalis chor are hiding

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  • Anonymous

    I am rather surprised at the insinuation of family background being taken to be the guarantee of the honesty of a person. Going by this a new person in the world has no chance!

    I think fellow bloggers probably meant that the values a family cherishes are important. I agree with this– not the genetics of being honest.

    If you really look at the canvas of the dishonest and the honest people in public life. here is a small list I have complied. Can we say that it is all to do with genetics?

    In my opinion it is do with the societal values inculcated, the education and then what your parents taught you. Most importantly how you have been taught to distinguish between good and bad.

    However as an auditor I have learnt that

    IT IS MOSTLY ABOUT THE LACK OF JUSTICE IN OUR SLOW MOVING COURTS AND THE POLICE WHICH HAS BECOME CRIMINAL.

    SOME OF THE BEST COMPANIES AND INDIVIDUAL HAVE A HIDDEN DARK SIDE tHIS COMES TO THE FORE BECAUSE THEY FEEL they can get awaY BY MANIPULATING THE SYSTEM.

    let me highlight this from names of people in public domain. It is again I repeat. About lax laws. Lax implementation.

    Here is a list of some people I have seen closely– personally or through the newspapers

    a) Arjun Singh: Life long toady and sycophant of the Congress. A bootlicker and yes man. His father had died in Jail for forgery looting and cheating as a Minister in Nehru’s government. Arjun Singh let Warren Anderson fly , but saluted the nehru parivar to gain all his wealth and power.

    I would not blame his father’s criminal background for Arjun Singh’s lack of character.

    b) Lalu Prasad : Started as a Humble sipahi fo JP… and ended up being the most corrupt CM of Bihar. i would blame the weak criminal justice system for Lalu’s escapades.

    c) Rajiv Gandhi : Started of as Mr Clean. yet was tempted to do Bofors as.the criminal justice system could be managed by him and his cohorts.

    d) Karuna and Co. : Behind the dark glasses karun wrote film scripts about idealism and made wealth through plundering the exchequer and the innocent Indian. Again weak laws. weak implementation

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan, here is some food for thought:

    A Girl status on fb:
    Weird day:
    A guy came up to me and told me he would give me
    an iPhone if I sleep with him..How Dare!
    .
    .

    Updated via iPhone
    5 mins ago ;-)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    I have an IPhone with me. Can I try the same on someone ? Will it work ?

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  • Anonymous

    I think the PM is a honest man caught up in the wrong party. He is trying his best to do whatever is possible in this venal party and all power to him since there is at present no alternative. Any other alternative would just be horrible. In fact that’s true for so many things in India that it is really sad

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Ajai Shukla: Thank God that’s over…

    http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/ajai-shukla-thank-god-thats-over/475601/

    Excerpts

    On April Fools’ Day 2010, while taking over as Chief of Army Staff,
    General V K Singh identified his foremost goal as restoring the army’s
    “internal health”. On Thursday, in what surely will be a frosty ceremony, he will hand over to his successor, General Bikram Singh, an army whose generals are badly divided. Not even in the 1950s and 1960s, when the ambitious Lieutenant General B M Kaul exploited his proximity to Jawaharlal Nehru to split the officer community into pro-Kaul and anti-Kaul factions, did India witness the sorry spectacle of an army chief publicly denigrating his top commanders.

    ==

    Soon after his setback in the Supreme Court, a group of illustrious citizens, including a retired navy chief, Admiral Ramdas, filed a writ petition in the Supreme Court that rested on the communal narrative of a Sikh conspiracy to get General Bikram Singh into office. While the petitioners cannot be conclusively linked with V K Singh, the evidence suggests that they were at least manipulated by him.

    On February 10, the day V K Singh withdrew from the Supreme Court, the general’s henchmen approached me with a detailed briefing on “Operation Moses”. Reduced to its cringe-worthy essentials, this had Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and his wife; Planning Commission Chairman Montek Singh Ahluwalia and his wife; former army chief General J J Singh and his wife; and the Shiromani Gurdwara Prabandhak Committee (every Sikh down the chain, you get the drift?) in cahoots to get V K Singh out of office on May 31, 2012, when Bikram Singh would be poised to take over from him. I declined to pursue these improbable and slanderous allegations. Regrettably, Admiral Ramdas & Co approached the Supreme Court, challenging Bikram Singh’s appointment.

    ==

    Above all, Bikram Singh must embrace the virtues of silence. An army
    chief expresses himself with tanks and guns, not in lengthy interviews
    on news television.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Very sad indeed!
    All me too honest men suddenly wanted a share of limelight a la Anna. It’s like a competition of “why not me?”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ajay Shukla is too small and insignificant fry to take on Gen.V.K.Singh.
    Admiral Ramdoss is great as long as he only supports I-Love-Pakistan brigade, but the moment he talks about Lt.Gen. BikramSingh, he commits a foul.

    In the past too the Sikh lobby has tried to get Sikh generals to become army chiefs. Bikram Singh’s case is nothing new.

    And if the army chief expresses himself with tanks and guns, then too editors like Shekhar Gupta will tom-tom it as an attempted coup.

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  • Anonymous

    Will India have to choose between honsety and economic growth?
    About 25 years back all the CA’s in delhi would boast that they were following Nani Palkhivalla’s analysis of the budget. Palkhivalla like a true sceptic economist would tear into the first tentative steps the government was taking on reforming and liberlaising the Indian economy. Unfortunately, then, even though most people in power realised that the complex system of licences and controls, socialist India had, were hampering growth and illogical– nobody had the guts to change things, wholesale.
    Change only came perforce, because of bankruptcy and the IMF diktats of 1991 for availing USD 5 billion dollar loans. If the Indian econmy has perfored after that , it was only becasue of manmohan Singh, rao and the opposition agreeing to allow this, without succumbing to the communists and socialists.
    Today the economy has grown– the administration did nto as it did not get diktats to change. everythign is paralysed on the policy front. We will see a flight of capital, both Indian and foriegn. Old socialists from the Congress and the opposition are bound to win in the present circumstances.
    All because there is no administrative reform. No way we can check corruption.
    Should we then live with the idea that to grow we must turn a blind eye to corruption? The danger of a mamta coming to power at the centre always exists. maybe she would be certainly personally honest, but her vision would be that of India of 1980. Socialist and rhetorica; and popiulist and 1% economic growth prone.
    At the end of the day we need to promote growth and check corruption, maybe we are destined to be corrupt to grow fast.
    I think I am being cynnical, but the more balance sheets I see, the more convinced I get.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We have had growth for few years. Now let us experiment with honesty and low/ no growth. Gopi thinks low growth can lead to street protests. But I guess Indian public will support honesty now. Team Anna has changed the environment.

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  • Anonymous

    Iswar/Mohan/Ashish

    You may have heard about Dr Kamil Zvelebil, a great East European scholar on Tamil and Sanskrit. While his writings may not provide chronological history; he has dug deep into our past. An expert on classical civilizations, he has written a lot of books on Taml and Tamil Nadu, going beyond Sangam petiods.. He once stated that “Tamil Nadu was the only surviving classical civilization”

    In your pursuit on history and our collective past, you may want to read some of his works.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Thanks. Will look in his work.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks Gopi ji.

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  • Anonymous

    Mumbai being Talibanised, young Mumbaikars say

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Mumbai-being-Talibanised-young-Mumbaikars-say/articleshow/13649218.cms

    MUMBAI: Earlier this year, a little after midnight, roughly 300 people found themselves locked inside a central Mumbai nightclub. A team of cops sealed the main entrance, entered the club and took roughly an hour to set up their cameras. During this time, no one was allowed to leave, not even to visit the restroom. Finally, a door was opened and guests leaving were videotaped, reportedly for “reference”

    Last month, a group of collegians hanging out on Carter Road promenade post 1.30am were abruptly asked to leave by patrolling policemen.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    That is because the Home Minister – R R Patil – is more interested in moral policing than tackling real crime. Nobody else wants his job, though He happens to come from one-bull village.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    The problem is that he thinks and perhaps actually believes that he is
    doing good for the society.

    By the way When do you sleep, it is almost 2 AM in India.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Whenever I feel sleepy ;-)

    In the afternoons, I take a nap (1 to 2 hours) if I am at home, so that I am able to stay awake late. I would just be calling it quits for the day.

    Good night.

  • Anonymous

    what happened to Saraswathi river?
    Indus civilization?
    Harappan cities?

    monsoon failure — irrigation… migration..climate change

    Various mathematicins, archaeologists, palentologists etc studied this….Pl read..

    http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/an-ancient-civilization-upended-by-climate-change/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Benoy,

    Environment changes robbed us of great river Sarasvati. Our careless,
    criminial attitude of dumping garbage in massive scale will finish
    Ganga, Jamuna and other rivers of India.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Similar report appeared in local media

    Climate change killed Harappan civilization: Study
    http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-05-29/news/31888197_1_saraswati-river-harappan-culture-climate-change

    Climate change
    may be the main culprit behind the collapse of the Indus Valley
    Civilization around 4,000 years ago, says a new study, which also claims
    to have resolved the long-standing debate over the source and fate of
    the Saraswati, a sacred river in Hindu mythology.

    ==

    “We reconstructed the dynamic landscape of the plain where the Indus civilization
    developed 5,200 years ago, built its cities, and disintegrated between
    3,900 and 3,000 years ago,” said lead researcher Liviu Giosan, a
    geologist with Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in the US. “Our
    study suggests that the decline in monsoon rains led to weakened river
    dynamics , and played a key role both in development and the fall of
    Harappan culture,” he said.

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  • Anonymous

    Why wives are more dangerous than Mafia?
    Because Mafia wants either your money or life.
    Wife wants both.

    Good morning gentlemen.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hope your wife isn’t reading this.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    The day your wife gives a ‘pasting of your life’, I would be like to be there to watch the ’show’.

    Good morning.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am used to that, my neighbours usually watch and they have started
    complaining, that is why we are planning to shift to another house next month.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Shifting house!

    Is to increase the TRPs of the ’show’?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Need different audience.

  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    A cheap shot

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/a-cheap-shot/955374/0

    Excerpt

    When Team Anna member Prashant Bhushan called the prime minister
    “Shikhandi”, he took the discussion on corruption to a new level of
    irresponsibility. Shikhandi, a character in the Mahabharata, was of
    indeterminate gender. On the battlefield, Shikhandi was used as a shield
    by Arjuna, as he felled Bhishma, the invincible warrior, who was on the
    side of the evil forces in this most epic of good-versus-evil battles, and who would not take up arms against a woman. Only Bhushan can explain
    the appropriateness of the parallel he draws between the character in the epic and the PM. If the PM is Shikhandi, who is today’s Bhishma Pitamah? And Arjuna? What’s clear is only this: Bhushan doesn’t quite know his Mahabharata but he certainly knows the use of the sly slur and the cheap shot. What’s also clear is this: the discussion and debate on an issue as consequential as corruption is too important to be left to those who can trivialise it in this way.

    ==

    Having propagated the “sab chor hain” line on corruption and having
    recently included Manmohan Singh on its hit list, Team Anna is
    confronted with a problem: how to make their charges of corruption stick
    to the PM. Therefore, the flailing about for names to call him in the hope that the noise and fury of their attack will mask the lack of relevance or meaning. Their Lokpal dreams on hold, Team Anna now wants a grand SIT — they have even named the retired judges they want on it — to slay the entire cabinet at one go.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Mirror, mirror…

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/editorial-views-on/Edits/Mirror-mirror/Article1-863119.aspx

    Excerpt

    We wonder if Anna will have more remedial gems for us this time around. Last time he recommended flogging for drunks and endorsed a politician being attacked in public. This would brighten up this season when we are all wilting in the heat and desperately looking for subjects to lighten up your day. We feel that Team Anna must take the first step and come clean on its own track record. This would teach the politicians a lesson that Anna’s lads and lasses have nothing to hide.

    For a start, we would like to know who foots the bill for the endless travel in the crusade against corruption and for other expenses. Or could this be a miracle like the one Jesus performed in which he was able to feed thousands on five loaves and two fishes? We are just asking,not suggesting anything. Or has Team Anna learnt to stretch a few resources very far? If so, please, please let us know in this time of annual increments, this would be so very useful to us.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Why don’t you ever talk about the issues raised by Team Anna.
    Typical case of shooting the messenger. Btw, who is this we? And, whose money is being questioned here? This ‘we’ should be bothered about either his own money or ‘tax payer’s money’ .
    When ‘we’ were asked about Sonia’s US trip last trip, they hid behind privacy of individual and the same ‘we’ needs to know the finances of an NGO – approach the govt. authorities and let them raid the NGO to find the truth. In the mean time, can we talk about the corruption charges against the cabinet mininsters (excluding the PM for the moment)?

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    manohar_T Reply:

    “Why don’t you ever talk about the issues raised by Team Anna”. We are, unfortunately they are getting rubbished.

    As usual you have got your facts into a ‘masala khichDi’.

    Sonia’s US trip. The privacy was on the nature of her aliment. As for expenses, she being an MP is entitled to medical expenses, which to my knowledge can be assessed by a RTI query. GA or ask Dr. Subramaniam Swamy to do the needful or perhaps websites of the Parliament’s website or the Ministry of Health should provide the details. Make that damn extra effort.

    Coming to the Anna’s nautanki. They have not explained the source of the funds (if they did not wish to, they should have said so, after the public made a demand). Remember after collecting funds, Arvind Kejriwal then made statements like – 1) he would make the accounts public within a month or two, which he has not done and even more idiotic that he would return the money collected from unknown sources – how is that possible? Return the money to whom? Who was he trying to fool? Let us not talk of the travel bills being fudged by that lady and other shenanigans of these ‘well-wishers’ of India.

    They are trying to be very clever by half – they can always file an FIR to begin with (they haven’t). Instead, they just send the ‘report’ to the Prime Minister’s Office and demand an inquiry (we will wait and see, what the PMO does).

    If any of the Ministers (including the PM) are guilty, they should be punished and dismissed. I have zero tolerance for corruption across the board, not selectively. Recall Vinoo going hammer and tongs at the UPA with the CAG report on Delhi Airport (no issue per se, but was found wanting). When it came to CAG’s report on Gujarat, the poor chap just lost his nerve.

    Only those people who loose out and have nothing to counter, resort to abuse out of desperation (we don’t have to go very far, this blog provides enough examples every day).

    Anonymous Reply:

    1) Did Kejriwal return the money received without receipt ?
    2) Did Kiran Bedi return the money that she had duped ?
    3) Did Bhushans return the land in NOIDA as promised in a public meeting ?
    4) Did Bhushans rectify and pay the proper stamp duty on the house?

    manohar_T Reply:

    I have no idea.

    May be there is no need to do so, as they keep shooting themselves in the foot using AK-420 (*) assault rifles.

    Perhaps, Ishwar, an ardent supporter of Team Anna, will care to tell us.

    * AK = Arvind Kejriwal.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    You don’t have an idea but I have and I have replied to Pathak.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But, in the latest case of coalgate corruption and 14 corrupt ministers, Anna’s team has made a direct hit on the PM’s foot.

    metaphorically, Manmohan Singh’s government is seen limping (that is, when not seen crawling in front of mataji).

    manohar_T Reply:

    If you do not have the slightest idea as to how the system works, it is about time you just shut up.

    Waving of some pieces of papers in public is no establishment of any corruption or crime – they need to be subjected to the due process of law. Going my your line of argument (or lack of it), Modi would have been behind bars several times over, solely based on Teesta & Co’s numerous affidavits and statements.

    Go and get some elementary lessons in Civics first, hopefully this blog will see less balderdash from you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Yes to all four points.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Show me the evidence, then I will believe.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please try through RTI.

    manohar_T Reply:

    RTI? can you provide the appropriate links?

    How did he manage to return the money to unknown contributors?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I have selectively read the CAG report on Gujrat. The CAG is not satisfied with the state govt.’s explanation regarding the sale of gas to Adani by GSPC at a price lower than its purchase price. The loss to the state is roughly 70 crores (as per the CAG). All other issues (eg. cost escalation in gas exploration etc) in the report can’t be classified as a scam or corruption. It is only a matter of policy decision and even the courts have admitted that taking policy decisions is a prerogative of the state/central govt and even if it results in a loss, no charge of corruption can be made against the minister concerned unless personal profit to the decision maker can be proved. There must be a way to recover the loss – after all, the SC did cancel 122 licences in the 2G scam.

    Having said that, let’s look at the scale of corruption alleged against 14 ministers of the cabinet. Some of the charges are very obvious case of blatant loot. I would bring them for discussion here at some point.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Is this Team Anna parallel CAG, the Police or CBI? Never mind. As they have ‘uncovered’ corruption, let them go through the process of law, the way Dr. Swamy does. Just shouting from rooftops is neither here nor there. First they submit a report to PMO and set a deadline. Do this or else by 25th July. Let 25th July come, we will see – nothing is going to happen, except some nautanki in Ramlila grounds.

    I had just mentioned CAG report on Gujarat to show Vinoo’s double standards. Of course, there are no explanations / answers as yet from the state government We will wait for the next assembly session. I am the last person to bypass established procedures and the other side has the right to reply and defend. So relax, I will not ‘hang’ Modi today.

    Corruption is corruption. You may measure in terms of volumes and scale to justify one corruption and slam another, depending on which side the target is. Not me,as I said, I have zero tolerance.

    Anonymous Reply:

    By ‘we’, Hindustan Times means its propriertix, Shobhana Bharajyatya and also HT itself.

    You ask how Sonia got the money, how Rahul got himself released from Chicago police, how the Gandhis live, even without a car, what is the religion of Sonia Gandhi etc., even the courts and the RTI commissioner draws a thick veil of secrecy and delcare that it is a private individual’s right to privacy.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The issue is UPA corruption/non-performance, and not team-Anna’s travel.
    It simply is unpardonable for a respected newspaper to criticize whistleblowers instead of rooting out corruption in government.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahadevan,

    you are absolutely right.

    The Hindustan Times is missing the woods for the trees. The central issue is corruption in the government and HT is trying to say you too are corrupt, so the government corruption is OK.

    Even a child in India knows that Mahatma Gandhi too took help from the Birlas and other rich people for carrying on the fight against the British. Nobody questioned him why he took the help or how much the Birlas shelled out.

    Pathakji may believe that this way Anna can be silenced, but the corruption in the government and its ministers cannot be hidden by the veil of corruption in the Anna team.

    manohar_T Reply:

    RSS disapproves of Team Anna comments against PM

    http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_rss-disapproves-of-team-anna-comments-against-pm_1695556

    Excerpt

    The RSS on Tuesday disapproved of Team Anna’s comments against Prime Minister Manmohan Singh over the issue of corruption.

    Decency in language should be maintained while criticising the Prime
    Minister, who holds the highest office in the Government, RSS Joint
    General Secretary Dattatraya Hosbale told reporters here.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I always knew that RSS is a decent organization. Thanks for the
    confirmation.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Enjoy your happiness.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think the Congress and the PM shouldn’t take it as offence.
    They need to change themselves. They need to be aggressive and fight back. They must take the fight to the enemy camp. The Congress and PM have proved to be too mild for comfort. It’s time they changed and treated Team Anna as another political foe like DigVijay read it right from the day one.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak-
    Do you think UPA is performing? One gets the feeling (from your note) that the issue is rhetoric and not performance.

    The issue is non-performance. No amount of sugar coating or chararcter assassination is going to help.

    Anonymous Reply:

    UPA is not performing. They allowed people to siege the opportunity and push then to a corner. I am advocating that UPA must create a strong defence agaist people like Team Anna and create space for itself to perform.
    People like DigVijay always formed the first ring of defence and let the Govt perform. UPA allowed that defence to crumble and paid for it.

    manohar_T Reply:

    True. For reasons known to them, they allowed themselves to cornered. They always blinked, even before someone grunted.

    Let us see, if they make any course corrections, if not it is one great downhill trip and they would have no one to blame, but themselves.

    Anonymous Reply:

    They were too eager to prove themselves in UPA2 without the party’s support. They paid for it.

    Imagine of all the people, Pranab went to the airport to receive Ramdev ! How else can you explain their naivety !

    In today’s time, the motto must be – ” take no prisoner”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    When half the government is about to be taken prisoner, you are, like the one-eyed buccaneer, giving a war cry “take no prisoner”.

    Your battle-weary foot soldiers are only hearing whimpers, “take, take, take”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Saying “I will resign whenever proved guilty” is no way to fight Anna and the anti-corruption war unleashed by Anna.

    Calling Anna Hazare “corrupt from head to toe” is also not the way to fight the war against anti-corruption war.

    Digvinash Singh is too insignificant and too discredited a character on whose shoulders the congress party can keep its gun and fire.

    The fact is that the Prime Minister is paralysed by the facts of corruption that have rendered the government credibiity-challenged.

    Sonia Gandhi’s own record, with credible information about billions stashed in her Swiss Bank accounts is laughable. She too carries zero credibility, in fact more than Manmohan Singh.

    Anonymous Reply:

    PathakG I am reminded of a what I read elsewhere. …
    The 1.89 Lakh Crore Coal Scam is Not relevant . The most important question facing India today is where Anna got his Dhoti from .
    And since Anna is not revealing where he got the money to buy his Dhoti we must conclude , Anna Hazare is NOT an honest man .
    I have CD video proof that he paid only 45 paise for 50 Paise cup of Tea in March of 1989 and failed to declare his vast assets of 2 Charpai & 2 Lantern in that same year.
    I have had this video analysed by a Top Govt Agency which releases the best selling Porn CD’s of this country and they have confirmed the CD is a 100 % authentic fake.
    I have over 100 + years of journalistic experience out which 99 years were spent standing outside Madam’s office.

    I am determined to publish the *Relative Truth even in the face of virulent criticism. Stay – Tuned.
    *Relative Truth also known as complete BS in my parallel journalistic universe.
    —Vinod Sharma HT Political Editor

    Anonymous Reply:

    praveen
    excellent!

    Anonymous Reply:

    This is another Samjhauta express blast by a coward.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This is another Samjhauta express blast by a coward.
    And you perhaps know that coward.Just look around. He could be closer then you think.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    Superb. We are witnessing different Praveen. Really enjoyed
    reading your post.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveenji,

    a great post. You have, yourself climbed great journalistic heights using irony, parody and wit.

    The fake CD never fails to entertain.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    A new parveen indeed. Great.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    This is Kalyuga ki Mahabharta. Our PM Man Mohan Singh as a Shikandi
    is shielding our beloved India which is in the hands of today’s Dhirtarashtra and Dupuryadhan. Anna as Krishna is carrying
    many Arjunas on the Rath he is riding. In today’s Mahabharta one Arjuna
    is not enough for the powerful and dangerous Duryodhan who has
    support from the people like Jaydhartha, Shakuni and Ashwathma.

    p.s Gopiji, sorry with my limited knolwledge on Mahabharta I have tried to
    invade your territory. Please correct me whereever I am wrong.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan
    Yes, you are right, we are witnessing Kaliyug’s Mahabharatah.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    It seems that you have accepted the report by Team Anna as gospel truth, without any inquiry and trial. Why not apply the same yardstick to Modi? There are enough ‘reports’ out there which have pronounced him guilty. Yeh kaise ‘double standards’?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar
    Why do we have to bring in Modi here? Where is Modi’s stealing, if he has, compared to the global scale of corruption we are witnessing everyday in UPA – I have not read the point by point list team A has come up with, but just look at the daily new – CWG, Spectrum, Adarsh, YSR…..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    M for Manohar
    M for Mohan
    M for Modi.

    We both, Manohar and myself love Modi, cannot stop ourselves
    from mentioning him

    manohar_T Reply:

    I like to bring in Modi, because his supporters here immediately get ‘khujli’ and work themselves into a lather. Then this lather is used to ‘hide’ a lot. It is great fun. ;-)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    V for victory,
    V for VinodG,
    V for (Dig)Vinash.

    Now, you can see, Anna has no chance. Victory is assured.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Where is Modi’s stealing?

    That is what we need to know. He obstructs the appointment of Lokayukt for 8 years. He regularly tables CAG reports on the last day assembly sessions.

    Pleas explain. The we will decide about your question.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Take Modi away for 3 months and leave a B.Com failed Auditor in Gujrat. He will find out.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Better still, let IITian Sanjeev Bhatt loose on the Gujrat government under the special powers of Kamla Beniwal, the land grabbing governor. Bhatt will certainly find out.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Watch this space.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    despite your humility, you have beautifully interpreted the Mahabharat in today’s terms.

    You should appear on Aastha TV once in a way for a detailed Harikathaa kaalakshepam, explaining the epic with your commentary.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    I don’t mind doing that but the problem is that public will start
    throwing chappals when as is my habit I will start telling them
    my kind of jokes. Like this one .
    These Pathans because of their unique habit have become
    butt of jokes.

    A Pathan’s wife to other Pathan’s wife : ‘ How did you manage
    to become pregnant ‘ She smiled and replied ‘ That night
    I wore my bra ulta ( other way around)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    You are too much!

    Anonymous Reply:

    that means if the pathan by chance had worn his langot ulta, she wouldn’t have become pregnant!

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Superb.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I believe Prashanth used the word “Shikanti” , if he used it at all, to indicate/slur the PM as neither a man/nor a woman, a “napumsak” ..Shikandi, in mythology was a napumsak, a hijada.. I do not think he was using it in any Mahabharatha comparison, because if he was, he is shooting at himself since Shikanti protects the good side in the kurukshetra war.

    I myself have heard many using the word “Shikhandi” to describe the PM — but Prashanth should not have used that word, it diverts the focus from the message to the messenger.

    As usual, the media is making a mountain out of a mole, instead of crusading against the governmental corruption.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    I agree with you on this explanation.

    The editor of Indian Express might have flaunted his knowledge of Mahabharat so that the congressi troll here may clap in appreciation, but the fact is, the word Shikhandi today stands for anybody who is in a powerful position but is without the power that goes with the position, who finds himself so helpless that he is paralysed both mentally and physically.

    This descrip[tion fits our great econo-unfriendly PM, Maun Mahan Singh, perfectly

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS

    Yes, the right explanation – mental and physical paralysis

  • Anonymous

    AK Antony, campaigning in a byelection contest in Neyyattinkara here near Thiruvananthapuram, criticized the petrol price hike!!!!!

    Is he on Mamta’s side or Manmohan’s side?

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    Loose election talk. He should be told by his bosses to just shut up.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Karunanidhi has also opposed this hike and has threatened to pull out
    of UPA.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He will not pull out. He has two more years of stealing.. After that, he, his party, his children all will be nam ke vaste

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  • Anonymous

    Pathak
    You seem find to fault with not the (UPA) government, but with the people who bring up and question Spectrum, Adarsh etc.

    Instead of advising the government about clean administration, you are telling them to go on an “attack”, with a new PR crew.

    Something is amiss here.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It was never the voice of the civil society . It was a political shadow boxing. It must be treated accordingly. Must be crushed ruthlessly.

    And yes I find fault with UPA for being naive and stupid to trust these shadow boxers. They have paid for it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak

    Are you saying civil society/citizens do not care about the size and scope of corruption happening in the political life now?

    Are you saying there is no real issue, but only a “how to deal with the messengers” issue?

    Are you saying that UPA is only at fault in dealing with the “Shadow boxers”, but everything else is Kosher?

    That administration is excellent, execution is great, nothing unusual other than the usual…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Their intention need not be discussed anymore. I do not want to give any credit to them anymore. They just needed to be treated like any other political foe.

    Even now if UPA does not crush this team, then they deserve to go.

    Anonymous Reply:

    So, you see this as a ‘get the Hazare team out” and everything is hunkey dorey — that the government is doing a good job otherwise? That this is only a messenger issue -

    Anonymous Reply:

    Team Anna is used as a distraction and an irritant. They play that role to perfection. They needed to be treated accordingly.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    let me repeat, “UPA is in no position to crush anything, ruthlessly or kindly, leave alone crushing Anna Hazare’s anti-corruption movement.

    The ship is sinking. The wise should think of jumping.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Only cowards do that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And only fools and idiots go down with the sinking ship.

    manohar_T Reply:

    The RSS branded astrologer is at work again. He is recycling the same old banal predictions – The ship is sinking, happy days are here again for the BJP, as he and they sleepwalk.

    Much to his chagrin, the Hindutva ‘gods’ (Advani, Modi, Gadkari & Co.) did not oblige him last time in Feb 2012. We will not talk of earlier predictions, banal as they were.

    Some astrology.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    PathakG;
    Crush Anna team, a la , Crush India of karachi streets of 70s??

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    now it is too late for you to treat Anna’s movement as anything other than anti-corruption movement.

    The guilty cannot show ruthlessness. They have now no power, nor will to display even fake righteousness. Manmohan Singh simply cannot brazen it out any more. Shortly, even people inimical to Anna Hazare will begin to chant “Go, Manmohan Go”.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    When has Pathak found any fault with UPA?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    yes I find fault with UPA for being naive and stupid to trust these shadow boxers. They have paid for it.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    you are only commiserating with the sad plight of the UPA, not finding fault with it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    As usual we differ. The only fault I do not find in UPA is of
    them being naive and stupid. They have all other faults.

    manohar_T Reply:

    The political opponents have outsourced their fight to Team Anna. What a stupid choice. This team does not know whether they are coming or going. In December, they made laughing stock of themselves with the flop shows in Bombay and Delhi. We will wait until 25th July, when another ‘naaTak’ has been scheduled. Unless they arrange free meals for the public at large, ……..

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Don’t read too much into that December event. It was a lesson taught by RSS to Anna for not acknowledging its role in crowd sourcing. Anna has learnt the lesson. Now RSS will send the crowd.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    OK, we are not reading too much into that December event. OK, also, it was a flop show and as your troll says, it was stupid of the opposition to “outsource” their fight to a wrong choice.

    But, please explain, Pathakji, why a mere comparison of the PM with Shikhandi has sent the pro-corruption brigade into a flap?

    Why are you now sending SOSes to loose cannons like Digvinash Singh for being inducted into the battle?

    Are you so short of leaders capable of facing the ancient bows and barbs of the so called wrong choice?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Street shadow boxers need to be dealt by people like DigVijay only.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    That means you accept tht Digvijay is a street fighter?

    Anonymous Reply:

    And his main weapon is ‘hit-and-run’.

    manohar_T Reply:

    One deploys appropriate weapon(s) depending upon the opponent. This lesson has not been learnt by the BJP. For every misstep by the UPA (and there are plenty), full-strength brigade is let loose. What a waste of artillery. So for the real issues, there is no ammunition left.

    Anonymous Reply:

    He is. Don’t you remember how he chased BJP supporters who tried to bully him ?

  • Anonymous

    A 23 year old girl was hacked to death in Bangalore by a group of motor cycle gang last evening in public in front of spectators.

    I believe the spectators could not do much because the attack and killing was over in few minutes.

    Just like politicians and officials stealing in public, we now have killers killing in public – does not matter if it is children or women, do not care if people are watching. They come in motor cycles and cars, execute, drive away.

    It is Mahabharatha war all over.

    We had a Krishna deliver us from “dharma chyuthi” 65 years ago..

    Will we have another Krishna (of course not SM krishna!) to get us out?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    it was not a gang killing. It is a simple case of ditched lover taking revenge on girl friend. The action took but a few seconds. Divya, the girl, was hacked to death by her former lover.
    http://expressbuzz.com/cities/bangalore/Did-friend-betray-her/396382.html

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Heard Karnataka Police is smuggling Petrol and liquor from Goa in official jeeps?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Delhi is very far from Goa otherwise they also would have
    been doing the same. Karnataka police is just following what
    Bombay police started much earlier.

    Anonymous Reply:

    These guys actually sell in the black market ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think the Karnataka police have twin advantages.
    one, Goa police will not arrest them or stop them and two, they can conveniently give a percentage to the Goa police.
    Omerta code of secrecy and oath of allegiance.

    Anonymous Reply:

    :)

  • AshishC

    “When you know that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing, when you see that money is flowing to those who deal not in goods but in favours, when you see that men get rich more easily by graft rather than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them but protect them against you, you know that your society is doomed.” — Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish,

    Very well said. We have reached that stage. If nothing is done urgently
    we are likely to be doomed.

    [Reply]

    AshishC Reply:

    We are likely to be…? Okay. back to work so that the government can take it away.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    (: (:

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish, good quote.

    However, her view of total reliance on unencumbered, no regulations, “free market” brings the disasters like the financial melt down.

    As my sister says, one Jew becomes Marx, and his sister becomes Ayn.

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    AshishC Reply:

    oh, without question. I am not a fan of Ms Rand. Never was. But the quote was uncannily apt for the situation we find ourselves in.

    [Reply]

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Very well said Ashish.

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  • Anonymous

    So, what is the disposition on Abhishek Sanghvi’s “sex/lies/tapes” (I think Hollywood had a movie with a title close to this)

    He is silent. News media is not doing any investigative reporting –they are all clamouring , as Praveen says, who gives Anna money to buy his dhoti–

    Judgeship for sex may be little too much even in this kali yug… HT, IE, teheka, Manu Joseph all silent on this.

    Even Hindu newspaper..

    So, UPA has clout.. they can silence… Why wouldnt they use their clout to offer a good administration? Or, is it that, they just do not care – is it the arrogance of Sanjay Gandhi all over again?.

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  • Anonymous

    Why quit, why not go to jail: Team Anna asks Prime Minister Manmohan Singh….
    So the country is now slowly taking off that mask … I for one has always maintained that Manmohan Singh sold off his soul to stick to that chair. He betrayed the trust which the country had reposed in him. I fear he may may face more unpleasant times when he finally demits that office … and at that time all those for who he stands in now … shall join those who accuse him..

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    If Lokpal were around, then he would have put MMS in jail by now on Team Anna’s comment.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    As long as Jagan is in the party let him hoard as much money
    he wants through dubious methods. As soon as he rebelled, the
    CBI was sent after him at the order of high command.
    Sir, for your kind information Lokpal will not work like this. They will
    look at the evidence and will take the proper and correct action.
    Then whether it is MMS, Chidambaram, Modi or Gadkari, all will be behind the bars if found guilty.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Once Lokpal “accepts” a complaint, the opposition will not let the PM work. If proved untrue, Anna perhaps needs to pay only Rs50,000/- ( no fear of jail term) which can be sponsored by Judeo.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The PM should have strategically stayed away from making a remark on Team Anna’s report. No one talking about the issue – he brought it back by with his emotional outburst.
    Not that I am complaining!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    He could have.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan-
    The Jagan issue is not a clear cut case of govt being silent till he started revolting.
    As you know, six years ago, his tax was only Rs 2-3 lakhs.

    He paid the advance installment of Rs 80 crores last year.(at least the man is paying taxes!)

    So, technically, the investigation could start only last year – as to where/how he amassed this much in 2-3 years?

    The real issue which may never get revealed is how much is hidden/slashed away. It is easy to correlate the assets/income to his tax payment of Rs 80 crores.

    The rumour here is that YSR slashed away money all over; a proper accounting, if a legitimate business, will yield a tax of 100 times more than the Rs 80 crores!

    Congress covered YSR. May be they could not do anything to him. Also the share of Congress’ blame in his looting may not be much.

    A large number , may be a plurality, of people in AP believe YSR was killed. They all believe it was not Chandrababu Naidu behind.. They also say it was not Sonia. The talk is about mysterious business interests, his double crossing etc.

    The very reason the family did not request a public inquiry was their fear about these shadowy interests. Jagan was not in complete know of things. His amateur performance reveals it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahadevan,

    Surprisingly even after Jagan had officially declared his
    wealth which was manifold more than his previous declaration no
    action was taken against him. If I am not mistaken advance tax is
    paid quarterly. 80 crores every quarter makes 320 crores tax
    every year, which means his official income is around Rs 1000 crores in a year. Amazing.

    Anonymous Reply:

    By sending the Lokpal bill into cold storage, he may have thought that he shall save his skin …but he will face the heat even without a Lokpal.

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  • Anonymous

    Gopiji,

    Karunanadi in few hours has proved you right. Now he says that he
    never threatened to quit UPA.

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  • Anonymous

    State-run oil companies like IOC, HPCL may cut petrol price by Rs 2 per litre.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/State-run-oil-companies-like-IOC-HPCL-may-cut-petrol-price-by-Rs-2-per-litre/articleshow/13658632.cms

    NEW DELHI: State-run oil companies are ready to cut prices of petrol by about 2 per litre after reporting strong earnings, signalling a surprise turnaround in the sector that scared investors with talk of astronomical losses from subsidised fuel sales.

    We’re they not aware of these earnings one week back ?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Oil Marketing Companies only started looking into their balance sheets when the allies of UPA and even one of their ministers didn’t back their own govt’s decision to sanction the loot of ‘aam admi’ in the name of …?

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Mohan & Ishwar

    Do not be so naive. They increase the prices and then they reduce them by a little. There is still a net increase.

    The announcement may also be a ploy to blunt the proposed ‘Bharat Bandh’ scheduled for tomorrow.

    If the crude prices rise in the next few days, there many not be any reduction.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    It is very clear that they are trying to fool the public. Increase
    petrol prices by a huge margin than reduce it a bit to pacify
    the public. I was pointing at the reason they are giving for the reduction of the petrol prices. Even a small pan wala would know if he had made some unexpected extra profit in a particular month. Here the oil company is claiming a surprise
    turnaround and have reported unexpected huge earnings.

  • Anonymous

    there was a chief minister of Punjab Pratap singh Kairon during my high school years – a foreign educated man (I think from Univ of Michigan), he built Engineering and Agricultural colleges in Punjab; laid the foundation/ led the undivided Punjab to its present prosperity . He then had to resign because of some silly dealings (may be 5 lakhs or so in present terms) by his close family members. Panditji pressured him to resign.

    Panditji must be turning over in his grave about his grand daughter-in-law and great grand son-in-law.. (and wondering about the great grandson –asto how genes lose one line when generations go forward into 4th and 5th)

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  • AshishC

    Bhushan may have used the word Shikhandi inappropriately (thanks Gopi) but, the reaction of MMS shows that as always, UPA is determined to be the naked emperor clothed in nothng but Manmohan Singh.
    What was the point that Bhushan made? It was that MMS’ personal integrity is used by UPA as a shield to deflect criticism about its scam-ridden record.
    And, see what MMS did? “The Prime Minister further said that he would give up his public life if the
    allegations made by Team Anna were proved. ”
    So, the tactical naivete of Team Anna is being ruthlessly exposed by MMS/ Congress and UPA.
    As Praveen Saxena so eloquently put it, this is sought to be made out to be a competition between Team Anna and UPA, Lokpal vs Jan Lokpal ..
    The real issue is the corrupt polity, venal politicians and opaque decision making. It is not about Anna Hazare or Prashant Bhushan.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashish
    What amazes me is the total lack of “professionalism” by Congress who is used to governing and steering through complex scenarios.

    An eighth standard student will tell that they should man their house before going after Anna, or kejwal or whoever

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Professionalism in congress boils down to only two things:

    1.If mataji smiles at any suggestion, it is a yes.
    2.If mataji frowns, that suggestion has a ‘no’.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Imagine Vajpayee even couldn’t do thatt much. Somebody had to scribble ” PM was ……. but present”.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Now, Subramaniam Swamy brings in a twist in the tale.

    http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/2012/05/27/289-Should-have-included-Sonia-Gandhi-in-the-list-Subramaniam-Swamy-to-Team-Anna.html

    He wants Anna Hazare to dump the Bhushans annd Kejriwal and join him and Baba Ramdev in their fight against corruption. He also added the same thing which Manohar has been advocating here i.e.

    “Documents are not new. It had been better if Anna Hazare and his aides would have approached a police station and registered a FIR and demanded investigation,” Swamy added.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    1) At last someone is trying to put little ’sense’ into those misguided ‘grownups’.

    2) Though I do not agree with him on his joining hands with the likes of Anna and Baba. He should remain a lone ranger, unless he wishes to increase the membership of his Janta Party by 300% from one to three.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    :)
    I agree that Mr. Swamy should remain a lone ranger else he would end up spending his time defending the new member’s statements rather than fighting for his cause.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Swamy was always a political mercinery, working all alone. He could never find a single like minded person in 1.2 billion people in India.

    manohar_T Reply:

    So you agree that these ‘great souls’ generally make statements devoid of logic and sense?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Not exactly.

    However, there have been occasions when they have been asked to make a statement (by trap setters in the media) on a subject which han’t been their forte and then the obliging 24×7 media blows it out of proportion. It deflects the public’s attention from the core issue.

    eg. Why on earth do we need a statement or opinion from Anna Hazare when someone slaps Sharad Pawar?

    manohar_T Reply:

    I will partially buy that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    1) Swamy never forgave Anna & Team, particularly Kejriwal hijacking the limelight away from him.

    2) Anna was uncomfortable with Advani ridding on his success.

    3) Advani could never digest the fact that Modi tried to dilute his Yatra with his Sadbhavna nautanki.

    The Competition is hot !!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But team Anna’s bomb shell about the 14 corrupt ministers has found the target.
    People in the street talk nothing else except the fate that is likely to befall for these 14 most corrupt ministers and whether Manmohan Singh will be shamed enough to resign.

    With zero credibility, Manmohan Singh has zero capital to run his business.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    More trouble for Team Anna.

    ==

    HC asks Centre to decide on probe plea against Team Anna in 3 months

    http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_hc-asks-centre-to-decide-on-probe-plea-against-team-anna-in-3-months_1695874

    The Centre was today directed by the Delhi High Court to consider in three months a plea seeking CBI inquiry against members of Team Anna for allegedly receiving funds from foreign organisations to run their agitation for Lokpal bill.

    ==

    In his petition, Sharma submitted that FCRA mandates the members to seek permission from the central government in order to receive any fund from any foreign company or organisation.

    The members have violated FCRA and the Centre has failed to take any action against them, it alleged.

    Citing a list of some foreign organisations, the petitioner sought the court to declare the agitation launched by Team Anna as illegal.

    =

    That is the way to go about it. Waving papers on the footpaths is not the way to prove anything. Surprising, with so many legal luminaries in its ranks, Team Anna seems oblivious to the proper procedures.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar
    I am always surprised how/why you find problems with the messengers but not with the perpetrators.
    Situation is so bad that even if Anna’ solution will not fix everything under the roof, even a 10% improvement is significantly better.
    We just cannot go on producing Rajas, Kanimozhis, Jagans, YSRs, Sharad pawars

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This high court directive to the centre to prosecute team Anna is a remedy worse than the disease.

    The centre can simply NOT do anything now or in three months.
    I will be mildly surprised if this government lasts the next three months.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Saab
    The court has directed the Centre ” to decide on a probe” .The centre has not decided whether to order a probe or not … for reasons best known to it …., most likely there is no tenable evidence. Investigation … its findings of contravenetion… if at all, subsequent prosecution .. shall come later. Recall how the Govt ordered the IB to probe the leak of the Army Chief’s letter. IB is yet to find out and the govt is yet to tell the country…. Such is the prevarication of this govt.

    manohar_T Reply:

    You are surprised. No issue.

    I am not surprised at your post. Knowing you, the script goes like this.

    Instant allegation = instant guilt + instant firing squad.

    ==

    As I said some hours back here in another post, going by your line of thought, Modi should have been behind bars several times over on the basis of Teesta & Co.’s affidavits and statements.

    Teesta & Team Anna are considered civil rights groups and should be treated as such. Just waving sheaths of papers near bus stops and railway stations does not prove anyone’s guilt. The due process of law has to be followed. See what Dr. Swamy says and practices.

    =
    Regarding some misguided members here, taking exception to the fact that the Court has ordered the Government to decide the matter of the foreign funds received by the Team Anna’s members and NGOs. They are castigating the Government for not acting on its own.

    Of course, it would not occur to these ‘learned’ members that if the Government had acted directly, they would have been accused of a witch hunt. So it cleverly got one advocate to file a case and got the order from the court to proceed against NGOs. They (these members) probably are not aware of finer nuances of statecraft. Some people are just plain d………..

    manohar_T Reply:

    Santosh Hegde distances himself from Team Anna’s comment on PM

    http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_santosh-hegde-distances-himself-from-team-anna-s-comment-on-pm_1695446

    “It is not proper. You don’t use such words against the Prime Minister,” he said.

    On the Team Anna’s allegations about External Affairs Minister S M Krishna being involved in the illegal mining scam when he was the Chief Minister of the state, Hedge said he did not find any material which implicated him.

    ==

    “It is extremely difficult for me to believe, having seen the Prime Minister all these years to say that such an allegation could exist. But at the same time, if somebody has said it is in documentary form, I think an inquiry should be held,” Hegde, a Team Anna member, said.
    ==
    These guys seem to forget the importance and prestige of the office of the Prime Minister. Never before (except once*) has anyone ever made disparaging remarks against the head of the government. A person is the Prime Minister of the Country not of a party.

    * L K Advani in 2009 elections and the BJP paid the price for his intemperate remarks (though it may have been music to the BJP supporters, just as Bhushan’s remarks are music to many here).

    ==

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  • Anonymous

    The country heard in rapt attention what the PM of India said aboard his aircraft ,about allegations of corruption against him. ” The allegations are irresponsible and he shall quit public life if found true. ” The PM of India spoke in English . The country recalled something similar said by Lalu but in Bhojpuri. Same for Raja who said it in English and Tamil. And ofcourse Kalmadi in English.. Mayawati said something new…. “it was an attack on a Dalit ki Beti” in Hindi . Mulayam said it is a conspiracy by the Congress…in Hindi ….now he may give a different reason or he may not require to give a reason at all.
    Did these dignitaries inspire the Supreme Court to tell Gen V K Singh ” Blow with the wind”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good one. Very sharp observation.

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  • Anonymous

    How do we restore credibility of a nation and law enforcing iinstitutions.?

    let us all face it, that we are facing a crises where not only is our polity corrupt, but now it is een to be corrupt to. I am coming around to the view that the India Growth story is almost over and there is nobody who can really revive it.
    The only way out is ACTUAL change and also creating a perception that change has happened.

    I would like to give an example of two multinationals, Cadbury and IBM, who combatted the same and came out winners. In cadbury’s case, chocolates with maggots and worms had been found in some boxes in smaller locations.
    Cadbury immediately went into an overdrive. It sent in technical teams to the factories and also inspected and made changes in packaging. On the public front, it hired Amitach bachchan as a brand ambassador. The confidence was rebuilt in 4-5 months.

    I think corporations and individuals with a vested interest In India should get together and get our story back, before the likes of Mamta and Rahul destroy it. While corrupt like Raja, jagan and others taint our names. Our bureaucrarts are still partly socialist in ideology but free marketrs iin bribe taking. We dont have the systems and mindset to make huge changes in law enforcement so corruption will take its time to be eradicated. Till then growth should not be toppled.

    Manmohan SIngh has to be a partner here. We need to remember that in case, Rajiv Gandhi and his core team had come back to power in 1991, maybe without Manmohan no reform would have taken place.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Vinoo sir,
    An interesting case study. I am a student of management and always am keen to know about how company’s play thier games.
    Sir, I feel there are similarities between Corporations and National governanace and some huge points of difference. In case of companies the motive is profit as well as developing a market. For politicians and public servants, ont eh face of it there is no profit moitve but in many coutires it is a profit motive through corruption.
    Therefore my deduction is that unless the Poltiicans and the public servants can see that corruption will result in punishment, they will not do what Cadbury did– that is take strong action.
    I agree with you strongly that we need to Keep the positve vibes about India intact, even when we aspire for change and enhancement.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    what are you specialising in?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    My suggestion to this guy would be to go for a career in public office governance. There is a huge shortage of good people there. But then like we chose the best paying possibility in our times– I guess youngsters today really look for finance and marketing as the best paying options.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Then he has to join IAS.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    while I largely agree with you, I do not see eye to eye with you on MMS.
    I agree, with Rajiv back in power in 1991, even with MMS as FM, we wouldn’t have had reforms. That clinches my case., that it was NOT a life long ji-huzoor babu Manmohan Singh, but a shrewd, wise and cunning fox called Narasimha Rao, who was the prime mover of the idea of reforms.

    India has never looked back since; though there have been hiccups, halts, delays, etc., but the reforms juggernaut has rolled on.

    We must, therefore, get rid of the congress culture of corruption, which has destroyed the character of even such a clean person as Manmohan Singh and get a wholly new team to carry the country forward.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes surely PV narasimha Rao is an unsung hero of our times. However even the Congress has ditched its tallest leader in recent times. Only Manmohan Singh remembered him, when the poor guy was in trouble.

    Contrary to his staid image, Rao was quite a hero regarding women. His book– a novel which I read– had some interesting lines which could thrill youngsters on this site.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    Whoever was responsible for this turnaround whether Rao,
    or MMS or both or some other force , I would say a great job was done.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Surely a very dramatic change. It was in economics. We need a dramtic change in public governance now.

    Anonymous Reply:

    now.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This disqus surely needs debugging against repeat posts…

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think Disqus is maintained by programmers from Andhra Pradesh!

    Anonymous Reply:

    now in a nation of hum do hammare do… disqus has multiplied my posts….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Surely a very dramatic change. It was in economics. We need a dramtic change in public governance now.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Surely a very dramatic change. It was in economics. We need a dramtic change in public governance now.

    Anonymous Reply:

    A real dramatic turnaround. we need the same now in
    a) Politics
    b) Police and law enforcing machinery
    c) State administrative machinery
    I dont see that happenieng.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    Sorry I am being sarcastic, but nothing wrong in dreaming.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Rao had just one line brief for MMS: I will handle the political end, you look after the economy.
    The whole contour was set by MMS.

    -
    Anyway, if Rao was PM today, you would have given the credit to MMS for 1991. It’s truly not about RAO or MMS. It’s about RSS, BJP and you who would twist to suit your interest.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Pathak G

    Since you seem to know a bit of the Congress, do you really think it has the sagacity to get an image change, the way corporations battle to get it done?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Come to think of it, 2004 was a great year for the congress with a fresh and adrenaline boosting image. Even 2009 was great. People got carried away and screwed up the whole thing by 2010.

    It still has the potential to go for an image make over. But somebody must reach out take a stance and then explain to the public. It’s actually easy with doublespeak BJP as the main opposition.

    1) Tell the world – The congress did not try to push any complain under the carpet. It maintained a dignified silence when barbs were thrown and allowed the court to take over the complete investigation.
    2) NAC had initiated the Lokpal issue with the same team members of the Team Nna long before Anna came to picture. Perhaphs, Lokpal bill would have got passed by now had the Team Anna worked with NAC like the RTI bill.
    3) Despite of lots of constraint, it gave a beautifulC

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ pathak
    honestly whose word in the Congress carries credibility in the eyes of the Public?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sorry, I couldn’t complete my earlier post. At this moment I am on a small tablet. I will complete that later.

    Surprisingly, it’s still Sonia. She still has ability to sway the public opinion. She can explain about MMS better than MMS himself to the public in general.

  • pankaj#1

    Tried to copy and paste, a small poem from facebook, could not. poem is in hindi and flavour is great, it will be lost in translation for sure.
    Dhan bhi kala———–man bhi kala
    Lo kar diya hamne—–ek aur ghotala
    kisne kaha tha tumse–chuno ham ko lala
    tumne hi aasteen main-Saanpon ko pala
    Hamain daar kahe ka—–kaun pakadne wala
    Jhoote ka bolbala——–Sachhe ka munh kala
    Aankhen karli band——munh par lagaya tala
    madam ke naam ki bas–japte hain mala
    Koyla kya cheej hai——-Hamne Iman bech dala.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Behtareen… Pankajji… shukriya

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    Superb. One of the best I have heard recently.
    Choron aur luteron ke haath mein aa gaya hai Hamara desh.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Choron aur luteron ke haath mein aa gaya hai Hamara desh,
    aur achche log sab ja rahe hain videsh

    kyonki in logon ko hai nahin sarkar mein pravesh
    choron ka dhanda ek hi, lekin alag, alag vesh

    Bachao hamara desh ko, hey Paramesh!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    aap ne bhi achche, achche poems dhoondna shuroo kar diya!

    Great. Very apt for the Mr.Clean Ali Baba and his chaalis asli chor.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    well great poem

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vinooji;
    Ye dard e dil ki awaj hai. Bus. In english, we say here, Period.

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  • pankaj#1

    Anand retained world champion title for the fifth time.
    these are our heroes. what we get for all these efforts, venal people at the top.
    Ex- liberian president gets fifty years in jail, any possibility here?? as we have surpassed africans in bribes and acts of commission/ Omission.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Great news.

    According to me, he is the greatest sportsman produced by India, having been a world champion several times over.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes great news. We have beauty – Aishwarya Rai- Miss world
    Sushmita Sen – Miss Universe and the brain Mr. Viswanathan Anand.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    AIsh, Sush and Vish.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Pankaj

    We continue with Hindustani Sangeet.

    Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan

    1) The Madras Music Academy – the fountainhead, guardians of and authority on Carnatic Sangeet – considers Hindustani Sangeet several notches below their own, bordering on disdain.

    Yet, how could they not acknowledge the greatness of Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan.

    Stooping to Conquer

    Legendary Carnatic vocalist G.N. Balasubramaniam — GNB to his admirers — was also a fan of Hindustani music. He was especially a great admirer of Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan. In 1953, GNB invited Bade Ghulam Ali Khan to present the first ever concert tour of a Hindustani musician in South India. A mini controversy erupted when GNB fell at the feet of the Ustad after listening to the master’s soulful rendering at his first concert at the Music Academy. Other Carnatic singers protested on the grounds that this amounted to South Indian music prostrating before North Indian music. But once they listened to Bade Ghulam Ali Khan in subsequent concerts, the same critics changed their minds and became his admirers.

    It is another matter that at the end of the tour, when GNB treated Bade Ghulam Ali Khan to a riveting performance of Hindola ragam, the virtuoso from Patiala Gharana tried to prostrate before the younger South Indian musician. GNB, however, stopped him midway.

    ==

    Ustad Bade Gulam Ali Khan had an impressive physique and the lofty gait of a monarch. It was hard to believe that this broad-faced, bewhiskered giant was capable of producing such sweet, soul-stirring notes. A year after our first meeting, on the occasion of my elder daughter’s birthday, I invited Bade Gulam Ali to my place for dinner. It was a pleasant surprise to see the great Ustad at the dinner table, consuming, with great relish, a whole chicken. nearly two dozen chappatis and more than a kilo of mithai (sweetmeats). and still more amazing was his 4 hour musical recital immediately afterwards. I thanked him profusely and jocularly remarked that people would always remember him as rangila gavaiyya and rasila khawaiyya (a versatile singer and an appreciative gourmet). Bade Gulam Ali was also an excellent cook. On many occasions for several years thereafter, he pressed on me delicious dishes such as mutton paya and karela mutton which he had prepared himself.

    In 1944 the Vikramaditya Sangit Parishad was held in the Bombay University Convocation Hall. An artist from Punjab presented Raga Marwa and a thumri, as they had never been presented before, and will never be presented again. This was how Ustad Bade Gulam Ali Khan introduced himself to lovers of classical music in Bombay. Raga Marwa, which he selected as his opening item, has a combination of notes -komal rishab and shudha dhaivat- which sounds very pensive and persuasive. The Ustad’s melodious voice and his most arresting style gripped the listeners from the start. He unfolded before the amazed audience a most attractive and elaborate picture of Raga Marwa.

    The almost effortless phirat of his voice, which ranged through three octaves -Mandra, Madhya and Taar-elevated the artist and the listeners to immeasurable heights of musical experience. This was Bade Gulam Ali’s maiden appearance in this city. He came, he sang, and he conquered the entire musical world of Bombay.

    The audience that day was star-studded. Eminent artists like ‘Aftab-e-mausiki’ Ustad Faiyaz Hussain Khan, Ustad Allaudin Khan (father of Ali Akbar Khan and guru of Pandit Ravi Shankar), the famous sarod player from Gwalior-Ustad Hafiz Ali Khan (father of the young sarod player Amjad Ali Khan), Marhoom Ustad Alla Diya Khan and many others were seen nodding in appreciation of Bade Gulam Ali’s performance.

    ==
    Pankaj,

    Pathak (inthe previous post of ours) has suggested that every Friday night we discuss music. Are you game?

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    Obviously, you are real connoisseur of music, having Ustad at your place, is no small thing, by any standard.It is said that for the song in Mugal e azam, K. asif paid, thirty thousand rupees to him for just one song and that was unheard of money, for a singer, but than he was Ustad Bade Ali khan sahab. I just collect anecdotes. it is different matter that in my childhood, when I use to attend Tansen samaroh, where great exponents of classical music will gather, I could hardly understand them, but ther true voive, effortless efforts and nodding of approval from learned people will mesmarize me. I have great respect for Indian classical music and this is one thing, which we can proudly proclaim as one of the best in world, if not best.
    bade Gulam ali sahab, was a doyen of his singing, no doubt. it is said that rendition of –Ka karoon sajani, aaye na balam, after passing away of his wife, had such patho, that an uninitiated person like me, could feel one ness with him. Your friday offer is tempting, but I can hardly contribute there, except as an appreciative listener.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    That was not me. It was one G N Joshi (I think he used to work for HMV). The events relate to time when I was not even born. I should have provided the link. My apologies.

    http://www.indianmelody.com/badearticle1.htm

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Pankaj

    The story goes that the Ustad used to consider films and film music below his dignity. When K Asif and Naushad went to request him to sing those two memorable numbers. He kept saying no and K Asif would not take a no for an answer. Exasperated, Bade Ghulam Ali Khan thought if he quoted an absurd amount, he would be able to get rid of them. So he quoted Rs 25000 per song (in those days the two top singers Rafi and Lata used to charge about Rs 1000 per song), thereupon K Asif wrote out cheque for Rs 50000 on the spot, knowing fully well if he had done so, the Ustad would have found one excuse after another not to come over and record the numbers.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Aap to chuppe rustam hai. You have impressed me with your
    knowledge on Indian classical music. I am just a simple lover of
    old Hindi songs.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Mohan

    No chhupaa rustom. I am just fan of good music. My technical knowledge of music is zero. I cannot recognize one note from another. I just go by the ear. Melody is the only criteria to appreciate music. That is why I do not mind music from any corner of the world. Naturally, I tend to like Indian music more – Hindi Film Music from late 40s to early 70s & Hindustani Shastriya Sangeet. I also listen to Jazz, Western Classical Music, Latin Music and even soundtracks from many English Films – Dr. Zhivago (my favourite – an absolute delight – Maurice Jarre – what a composer), Lawrence of Arabia, My Fair Lady, etc.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Will meet some time and over a drink will share our love for music. Baithenge jab do diwane milkar …

    manohar_T Reply:

    I will look forward to that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I will be in India in July for a short period – have to attend a
    a marriage in Kutch. Later most probably in Oct. or after
    Diwali I will be there for about a month. Will definitely try
    to meet then.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar/ shenoy;
    Visiting India in the last week of July. will visit both cities, looking forward to see, both of you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    I also most probably end of July will be in India for a week.
    3-4 days in Kutch and 2-3 days in Bombay. Would love to meet
    if you also happen to be in Bombay around that time.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    i will be staying very near to Gateway of India, Colaba. We can fix a time and place.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    Anywhere in Bombay shall not be a problem in meeting. My
    home is at Bandra West. I would love to have you at my home when I am there . Will let you know when my dates are fixed.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Pankaj

    You are welcome. I look forward to meet you.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Dr. Zivago;
    Wow, unforgettable movie. First time I saw amoeba so clearly in my life, and never again.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    I wrote some time back that I will be in Mumbai, in last week of July and would love to meet you. that post has disappeared. Anyway, if you are there, let us meet.

    Ravi Reply:

    अब याही बैठा होता

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yaahi or yahyaa?

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  • Anonymous

    Pathak Saab,

    Ek chota sa sawal

    Is there any good, honest non corrupt politician in India who opposes
    Ms. Sonia Gandhi ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vajpayee. Though it can not be said same about his son in law.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mr. Vajpayee a regular drinker and a very good, honest and non
    corrupt person. Good to know this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He was NDA’s shikhandi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    (: (:

    Anonymous Reply:

    Now you can rewrite your Mahabharata.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Tempting offer, but I will let it pass. I am not a fan of Congress
    but am slightly biased in favour of BJP.

    Anonymous Reply:

    At least you have one thing common with Vajpayee. Both of you love your drinks.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Few more — Good, honest and non corrupt.
    I am a NRI since last almost 37 years but I pay taxes on
    whatever income I have in India.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan also has one thing common with Sonia Gandhi. Both love money.
    They also have a difference. Mohan loves his own money, Sonia Gandhi, not having any of her own, loves India’s money.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nobody loves one’s own money.

    Ravi Reply:

    Only slightly!!

  • Anonymous

    @ Mohan and PathakG

    In the course of work, I happened to see Indira, rajiv and vajpayee in a social gathering from close.

    With Indira and Rajiv it were chance meetings during Asiad 82. I was very junior in the financial advisory company and did not actually talk. I could immediately sense that they commanded respect in the Congress. Conversly nobody could talk frankly to them. Rajiv then seemed nice with his dark glasses and informality as compared to Indira. Sad that he became the villian later on. maybe he was not cut out for politics and maybe he did do the big kcikback things purely for Congresss funding.

    Sometimes I wonder whether all this was being done 20 years prior to him– a secret treasury the key to which a relctant prince had inerited.

    In 1996, I happened to meet Vajpayee… at a friends marriage. He was a friend of the boy’s father. Vajpayee was eas to talk to, ate chaat pakodi like the rest of us, shared a joke and you guessed it, had his eye for women around.

    Vajpayee could recite a poem and well despite the Indian style adulation he commanded, was polite and respectfull

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Must have been a great experience!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But, to Pathakji, Vajapayee is a tongue-tied, paralysed, good for nothing politician who did nothing for India.

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  • Anonymous

    CAG reports massive health scam in UP.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/CAG-reports-massive-health-scam-in-UP/articleshow/13673499.cms

    One more scam ? We should change the name of our country to Scamistan.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Let me get into this one as an auditor. The CAG we have is sharp. However I feel that his calculation of presumptive losses in speculative and crazy.

    I would go by his opinion on the Airport scam and this NRHM. I would not go by him on 2g or Coal, when it comes to figures of presumptive losses.

    At the end of the day , everyone, company, individual or state needs to take a decision. If the decision is based on personal profit without fairplay– it is a scam. However in case a decision is taken with the best of intention and even if it is 100% wrong it is incompetence and not a scam.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    Now a days whatever decisions are being made are either for personal profits or out of sheer incompetence. The result of this
    is that money spent by GOI is not utilized properly to have any
    positive effect.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Despite my own uneasiness with the rather mediocre values and people Congress has, I would still hesitate to say “all is bad.”

    Ultimately a nation is composed of all of us. Forensic accounting which some friends here found amusing is about pinpointing. I wish rigorous applications of getting the exact man guilty and punishing that very person is applied. Then only will there be real change.

    I see that our political parties are out to destroy what has been built up after 1991. It may be the path desired to hoist Rahul to the topmost chair. The whole battle is fought on generalities.

    Today I talked to a CA who works with Uninor. The Norwegians whose population may be less than that of Delhi are amazed that first how such corruption took place. And second why they should be penalised for it. We are going to be an international joke. People will withdraw all their money.

    Sadly I feel Sonia and Rahul should withdraw and let Manmohan Singh get his credibility back.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    This came up last year. Several people (such as district medical officers) were murdered for refusing to join the syndicate.

    The minister in Mayawati’s cabinet, who was fired towards the tail end who joined BJP (And later thrown out from BJP after the uproar) was one of the “sutradhars” behind this..

    Yes, this is a huge amount.

    All the more reason that we should stop this five year plan mess..it is a government redistribution to government ministers and employees.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    There is not a single state where these things don’t happen.
    In some states at a small scale and in some at huge scale.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Like some people derisively quote the highly offensive “Hindu Rate Of Growth”, these scams should also be called “secular growth of scams”.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    The same old story, everywhere they go

    http://www.thehindu.com/arts/books/article3466727.ece?homepage=true

    “Why will anyone do anything for us? We are another country after all,”
    Mohammad Latif, of Jabla village in Kashmir asked the visiting team from
    the Planning Commission. “Another country?” they repeated. But it is
    from the stories of men like Latif that this book was born, stories from
    a country that certainly is not India Shining.

    Beautiful Country is part travelogue, part social chronicle,
    driven by the passion and curiosity of its authors. For the same reason,
    the book shows no sense of hopelessness, given the immense task ahead
    of them. A point that the Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission
    Montek Singh Ahluwalia stresses in his foreword to the book: “Syeda has
    the ability to make things come alive in a way that government reports
    festooned with official statistics can never do.”

    Hameed and Veda, both part of the Planning Commission, the first as
    member, and the second as officer on special duty, are good raconteurs.
    In their travels across the nook and corner of the country, they study
    its problems, but at the same time, mercifully, enjoy its immense
    variety. They were “two witnesses to this vast country as it unfolded
    before our astonished eyes.” It helped that they were sympathetic, were
    ready to lend an ear, and had a keen sense of history.

    ==
    Chapter by chapter, they cover much of the country, from Kashmir to the
    Andaman and Nicobar Islands. Elaborate, sometimes longwinded,
    descriptions follow, of places and their histories, but also of the
    culture and traditions of its people, in addition to their deprivations.
    Which is how the reader gets a peep into the life of the Khasis of
    Meghalaya, the Kattunaikans of the Nilgiris Biosphere Reserve, the
    Jarawas of the Andamans, the out-of-work plantation workers in West
    Bengal… “The names changed,” the authors note at one point, “the stories
    of their deprivation did not.” Lack of roads, drinking water, access to
    quality health care, education, government welfare schemes — the motifs
    were more or less consistent right through.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Unfortunately this is the fact of India. Fruits of consistent 7-8% growth, India shining, liberalization has not really reached everywhere. There is still
    lot to be done. If only all the schemes are properly implemented things
    will start changing in positive way dramatically. Most of us blame Congress for this mess is only because they had had the chance of ruling
    India most of the time since Indipendence. I am sure eveybody’s opinion
    will change when we see them working honestly for the nation.

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    The benefits of the development are not filtering down to the people that really need them. I always wonder why the development process has not reversed – from bottom to upwards. I keep coming back to water security and watershed management. Then watch the people transform their lives – as it has been proved wherever these projects have been implemented. The people from these places do not sops and subsidies. All other infrastructure just follows – good roads, health care centres, schools – it does not matter whether they are run on commercial basis – the people have the money to pay for services and goods). Migration to the cities also becomes a trickle, thus relieving the pressure on them..

    May be I will write to the Prime Minister and see what the response is.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    Sorry, that you are not in the inner circle. Some of us are working on these lines, it is ON.

    manohar_T Reply:

    It should be on a nation-wide basis.drivenby the government with the active assistance of the NGOs and the local populace.

  • Anonymous

    Ravi was in India and was suppose to go back to London last week.
    Vijay is missing since last few days. Are they both together and trying to fight
    it out personally instead of on the blog?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    A possibility.. Or, Ravi may have taken Viju for a tour of Mudrike

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    Ravi is having great time seeing his family and bearing the oppressive heat of Gurgaon after the relative comfort of Banglahore. Back in London on the 2nd.
    Vijay does not need a guide for his tour of Muridke. He owns it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think this fake Ravi came to India to get some treatment for his ailment, which makes him believe sometimes that he is a Hindu, sometimes a Sikh and some other times a Mona Sikh.

    Sadly, I believe he has not found any cure during his stay in Bangalore. For, he has been sending me, daily, copies of some passport, hotel liquor bills(?), luggage tags etc. in the name of some Anwaar from Dallas! Funnily, in the picture, only a walrus mustache is seen!

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Jate jate,
    Karunanidhi- will not quit UPA, that will strengthen Non secular forces.
    Heard that Patriotism is last resort of…
    Now, saving secularism is last resort of SCOUNDRELS OF HIGHEST ORDER.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    karunanidhi is a scoundrel!

    but he was not one who focused only on looting..like many others..
    TN progressed with him, his party ministers at centre, private/public partnership etc

    [Reply]

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Binoy;
    My observation is regarding, will not leave UPA, since it will strengthen Non secularist forces. This mantra has been milched in an unlimited way by many scoundrels and karunanidhi is not unique.

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  • Anonymous

    bad news on Indian economy….

    NY times today
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/30/world/asia/indias-economy-struggles-after-big-hopes.html?smid=pl-share

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Indian rupee symbol is not vast perfect, claims an expert.

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    Correction

    Indian rupee symbol is not vastu perfect, claims an expert.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    People of Andhra are experts in Vastu. Government should take
    advise of Jagan in this case.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What people look for is ‘below-the-waist’ perfection.

  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Prevent new converts from marrying immediately: Pak body

    http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/prevent-new-converts-from-marrying-immediately-pak-body/955709/

    Pakistan’s National Commission for Minorities has
    recommended that the government enact a law whereby new converts from
    non-Muslim communities are prevented from marrying for at least six
    months after conversion, as part of measures to curb forcible
    conversions.

    ==

    The National Commission for Minorities, during its second meeting
    yesterday, further recommended that a judicial magistrate, and not a
    police officer, should independently record the statements of converts.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    teh double dealing PAksitanis..

    You know what their plans are…

    There will be only 2000 or so minorities left after their systemic progroms of elimination and conversion… then they can tell the world they ahve a department of minorities with a staff of 100 to look after the 2000 minorities..where else in the world…

    Pakistan is a cancer; should be bombed out

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    They can take a hike

    DMK’s bluster over fuel hike is shown up. So should Antony’s effort to distance himself from it

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/they-can-take-a-hike/955832/

    The DMK threatened to upend the UPA over its decision to raise fuel
    prices. Party leader M. Karunanidhi reminded the government that the DMK
    had never hesitated to walk out of previous dispensations, be it the
    NDA or the V.P. Singh government. A few hours later, the party rolled
    back its ultimatum, saying it would stay in the alliance with bitter
    feelings, for the sake of the nation, and the upcoming presidential
    election.

    ==

    The UPA can be accused of doing it in the worst way, with a harsh 10 per
    cent hike, instead of incrementally adjusting prices. However, most
    responsible parties understand the rationale. While the opposition may
    be entitled to its stunts, it certainly does not make sense for those
    with any stake in policy — allies and even UPA ministers like Defence
    Minister A.K. Antony — to pander to their base by criticising the
    decision.

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  • Anonymous

    An attractive young lady told the guy who was staring at her ‘ Will you please
    remove something from my breast’. Excited, this guy asked ‘ what ‘?
    Lady said ‘ Your eyes, you bas…..d.

    Good morning friends.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The fellow should have worn sun glasses.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Mamata’s repeat ‘offenders’

    http://www.thestatesman.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=411691&catid=35

    That the Mamata regime has honoured its favourites from the literary,
    artistic and cultural world is no surprise, even if it’s more of the
    same, given that for over three decades only Marxist-approved fellow
    travellers and simpatico elements were recognised by the state. But it’s
    a bit much, concede even insiders, when the same names crop up again,
    and again and again, in the list of those awarded by chief minister Miss
    Mamata Banerjee over the past few months.

    Even those who have had largesse and recognition bestowed upon them
    repeatedly are feeling a bit awkward ~ “it is quite embarrassing that
    within three months we have received multiple awards,” said one of them
    to The Statesman.

    ==

    The chief minister handed over awards to 15 important people at a function held in north Bengal on 10 February. Among the awardees were litterateur Sanjib Chattopadhyay, Sirshendu Mukhopadhyay, poet Joy Goswami film actor Ranjit Mullick, theatre personality Bibhas Chakraborty, vocalist Ustad Rashid Khan and singer Nachiketa.

    On 12 April, Miss Banerjee handed over Mahasangeet Samman award to
    Firoza Begum, Pandit Ajay Chakraborty and others and Sangeet Samman
    award to Ustad Rashid Khan and Nachiketa among others.

    To celebrate the completion of one year in power, the chief minister gave away Bangabibhusan and Bangabhusan awards at a function at Netaji Indoor stadium on 20 May. The Bangabibhusan awardees included litterateur Sanjib Chattopadhyay and Sirshendu Mukhopadhyay, poet Joy Goswami and film actor Ranjit Mullick. Bangabhusan awards were received by Ustad Rashid Khan and Nachiketa among others.

    To celebrate Kazi Nazrul Islam’s birth anniversary on 25 May a function was held at Nazrul Mancha where Firoza Begum was given a special Nazrul award.

    ”How could the chief minister ignore Soumitra Chatterjee who won the Dada Saheb Phalke award for his contribution to Indian cinema.

    Renowned cinematographer Soumendu Roy who had worked with Sautajit Roy was not given any award either,” wondered an intellectual.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shrimathi Mahaasweta Devi, the Jnanpith award winning poet, who was initially for Mamta, has now come against her…

    She was recently in Calicut, was all over Mamta in hers peech

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  • Anonymous

    Pathakji,
    you said, “Rao had just one line brief for MMS: I will handle the political end, you look after the economy. The whole contour was set by MMS.
    Anyway, if Rao was PM today, you would have given the credit to MMS for 1991. It’s truly not about RAO or MMS. It’s about RSS, BJP and you who would twist to suit your interest.

    Pathakji,
    your information is incomplete and hence biased.
    Actually, the brief Rao gave MMS is this: I will handle the political end, you look after the economy as I direct you to do. MMS knew only about the contours of the socialist economy, having been a faithful life long babu of the system, whether in the Planning commission or the RBI or the MINFIN.
    Only sad thing is that giving credit to Rao for the make over of the Indian economic system would severely dent the secular imagery, because Rao has been painted dark in anti-Muslim colours by the congress and the naukar-media.

    Remember, Narasimha Rao’s first choice for the change over to liberalised economy was H.M.Patel, Morarji desai’s Finance minister.

    Also remember, he changed many of India’s socialist economic policies, ending barriers to foreign investment and reducing tariffs while protecting home industries.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are well known for “adding extra” or “dropping the relevant information” . There have been too many instances on this blog itself.

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    And he thinks he is too clever by half, hoping no one notices the perverse distortions of facts.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    Too true. He is also an outright liar

    Anonymous Reply:

    The rats are coming out of the rat holes!

    manohar_T Reply:

    Duplicate post. Edited out.

    manohar_T Reply:

    He is a pathologically outright liar and abuser. Calling us rats and reveling.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Care to provide an instance?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Browse back…there have been too many.
    And you have been not so politely reminded of that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    In any case politeness is not a virtue you are associated with.
    You only know how to side-step an issue.
    I would still be satisfied if you show me one single instance of adding extra or dropping relevant information.

    But, I know you don’t have it in you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    absolutely right..

    The great man who set the course of prosperity (after the mother Gandhi created two generations of poor people) was kept in the dog house as the reward..

    and we are still naming and renaming buildings and roads under Rajiv Gandhi’s name..

    btw are there national institututions named after bahu Gandhi

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    the great man who rescued India from certain economic collapse, dies a dog’s death. His dead body was treated worse than an animal carcass. It was not allowed to be brought inside the congress party HQ. Was kept outside the gates for mhours for Madam to decide the dead body’s fate and she decided that Narasimha Rao, the great Indian Prime Minister didn’t deserve to visit the great party HQ even in death.

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  • Anonymous

    Vinoo said, “@ Pathak G

    Since you seem to know a bit of the Congress, do you really think it has the sagacity to get an image change, the way corporations battle to get it done?

    Pathakji replied (not at all surprisingly)”"Surprisingly, it’s still Sonia. She still has ability to sway the public opinion. She can explain about MMS better than MMS himself to the public in general.”

    Pathakji, if Sonia, as you seem to believe, can sway public opinion, why is it that her congress party lost badly in the UP elections, that too in her own backyard of Amethi and Rae Bareily, where she lost in 8 out of 10 assembly seats? Or has she lost the power to sway the people of her own constituency?

    Are we rather hasty in concluding that Sonia’s “swaying power” days are over?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are jumping too soon rather. Transitions are always difficult.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    between Sonia and Rahul, it is Sonia..
    both campaigned here for the 2011 assembly eelctions. Both had only sparse attendance for their meetings; with Rahul’s basically 10% of the stadium capacity…(Sonia was 30%)
    (then there was report that the local congress organizers kept the money to themselves without giving money to the “prearranged” attendees..

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  • Anonymous

    Gopiji,

    Last night I watched 1st one hour episode of Story of India – very interesting.
    Will be watching others very soon. Thanks for the hint.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    In that case I am a little ahead of you. I watched the second episode this morning – absolutely gripping and informative series. I make sure that I watch it when I have my kid around – we pause, rewind and discuss some nuances as we go through it.

    I am loving it!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Moham/Iswar

    great that you enjoyed.. watch with children/family and discuss as Ishwar mentioned….

    There is this famous Professor of Berkley – Prof Frits Staal – he was Prof of Sanskrit and Indian civi;ization ..just passed away a few months ago..He has done intensive (and extensive) studies on Vedas and origins of certain practices…spent a lot of time in kerala, with a particular group of Namboodiris who are the only ones in India who know/practice certain “yajna” for Agni.. The whole invocations are orally passed over for generations – multiple millenias..

    He has written many books – Agni, Rituals and Mantras being two of them..google him….

    Also google for the 4000 year unbroken practice of “athirathram” , orally passed on Agni worship…

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/agnicayana

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    Anonymous Reply:

    mohan

    great..see my comments below IShwar’s

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Thanks. I was just now reading about athirathram which you have mentioned.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    In any other country other than India, there will be research on the origin, movement, why things like this survived only in one corner etc..but not in India..

    Several manuscripst of the famous Sanskrit playright, Bhasa, (kaalidaasa considers him his mental Guru) was discovered near Trivandrum in early 1900s. (Bhasa, as you may know is the author of famous Sanskrit plays like Vikramorvashiyam, Swapna Vasaavdatta etc–one of his plays was the root story of the movie Utsav in which Rekha acted)..

    Bhasa is considered to be a writer from somewhere near Ujjain. However, as far as I know, there was no further research as to how the manuscripts got to Trivandrum, or for that matter was Bhasa from that part of the country (there is a 2000 year old tradition of Sanskrit theater “koodiyattam” in kerala, which originally played only Bhasa’s works)..

    Years ago I visited USA. It was amazing how that country being so young, created history on the go. You will have these monuments manned by government parks and recreations staff guides — places where Benjamin Frankl;in peed or Jefferson had a drink …

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    You are right that in India enough efforts are not taken to do
    any serious research of our past. I had read a book by Mr. Gurcharan Das – Difficulty of being good – , where he has tried
    to analyze our great epic Mahabharta. Surprisingly he did all
    his research by reading books available in a library in Chicago.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi, Mohan, Ishwar,

    Old history has no use for our politicians. Today, what goes by the brand name of JNU history only is prescribed in schools and colleges. India’s history will, in course of time, be remembered as the history of the Nehrus and Gandhis, both real and fake.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Must be so discomforting and so frustrating.

    These are better and more believable than the fairy tales ‘manufactured’ by the RSS propaganda printing presses.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Gopi;
    This is what I mean by saving Hindutva. Hindutva being lost in North India by constant onslaught by Islam, Christianity and ignorants from Hindu society itself. As, Mahesh was very curious to know, what is the need to save hinduism and from whom?

  • Anonymous

    I’m not apologising: Shah Rukh Khan

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/ipl-2012/news/Im-not-apologising-Shah-Rukh-Khan/articleshow/13678072.cms

    First SRK blamed security official, later he apologized and now this is what
    he is saying.

    What about the Wankhede controversy? There’s confusion about the apology
    bit…

    Let me make this very clear, I am not apologising to
    anybody. I only apologise to my kids for what happened, I apologise to myself
    for having gone there. I will also not take on an organization (MCA) for the
    actions of one or two individuals. There was a man wearing a yellow shirt that
    night who spoke rudely with me. People expect me to remember his name? I don’t
    even remember names of my co-actors. If that man comes in front of me, I will
    beat him. He said things that were trash, unsecular and unworthy of my repeating
    them. I have lived in Mumbai for more than 20 years, have my domicile here, my
    home and family here. I am as much Indian as that idiot who made the comment or
    anyone else in this country. Thankfully it took me 10 minutes to understand what
    he said… otherwise I would’ve caught him right there and slapped him. I don’t
    teach my children what is Hindu and what is Muslim. Every association has their
    rules and they should follow it and God bless them for that. It doesn’t matter
    to me if I go to Wankhede or not.

    ——-

    Is he trying to play religious card ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Come on Mohan !
    He said the same thing that night itself, barely 15 minutes after.

    I DO NOT THINK SRK IS AN APOLOGETIC MUSALMAAN.

    He never had a reason for it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    I had heard what he had said next day. He had said that cause of his
    anger was that the security personnel had mishandled his daughter.
    He never said anything about being Muslim. I am reading it first time.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That very night of the incident he spoke about this man talking rubbish in marathi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Rubbish could mean mc, bc or anything. It will be very sad
    if people like SRK who is adored by millions of Indians resort
    to this kind of victim hood. Azzaruddin had tried the same when he
    was blamed for match fixing but he immidietely backed off as he
    could not handle the backlashes he received afer that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan
    let us hope he is not going after these cheap tricks…he seems to have gotten the Congress disease, continuously engaging on the wrong argument and never letting it go.. He should just say “no comments” on these questions about his behaviour at the stadium

    Anonymous Reply:

    Let’s hope so. I have always admired this person who did not
    had any god father in film industry and still reached the top
    through sheer hard work.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And many with god fathers and big daddys have fallen by the way side. (Kumars, Kapoors, Chopras et al).

    Anonymous Reply:

    He talked about with great disdain and anger, it was about his religion and country.

    And he talked about it then and there. Not after thought.

    Anonymous Reply:

    SRK IS NOT AN APOLOGETIC MUSALMAAN.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Delhi Boy SRK isn’t really stranger to the adjectives BC & MC.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Actually, the man was shouting in Gujarati, “No Modi, No Modi, no rape, no rape”. Shah Rukh mistook it for something derogatory about his religion.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You fancy raping Modi or being raped by him? You repeat it too often.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am only recalling, once in a way, the signature tune of your friends, fake ravi, engrich and also the congressi troll with the wagging tail.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You recall it so often that it would make even Freud cringe.

    Anonymous Reply:

    who cares if Freud cringes or goes on a drinking binge?
    In any case Freud is passe.

    manohar_T Reply:

    We are glad to know that the signature tune causes extreme discomfort, disorients you and you start spewing more balderdash, only to discredit yourself and that is the objective.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Oh, I never knew there is a species called APOLOGETIC MUSSALMAN (note the capitals!).

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The whole thing smells of something…he seems to be under a lot of pressure…should take some vacation.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vodka? Chivas Regal? Black Knight in shining armour?

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    For what I can make out is that the person in yellow T-shirt must have passed some disparaging comments about SRK, his religion, etc. I am only guessing.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There is a dichotomy here..
    Why would a man, who professes that he brings up his son neither as Muslim or Hindu etc, get upset about a religious remark aimed at him?
    I believe the man is under professional or personal stress, should take a long vacation

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If he does, it wouldn’t be the first time, nor a novelty.

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  • Anonymous

    GDP dips to 5.3, lowest in 9 years..
    We are in for a summer of discontent…or decades of discontent?//

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    You had whole 18 months of unrest. The economy is not on auto-pilot. One has to work for it.

    We had years of growth. There is no harm having reality shows on the street. Have fun for sometime.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We also have an economist PM for the last eight years!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Quarter on Quarter, you have had growth till your proxy shadow boxers hit the street.

    Anonymous Reply:

    A WHOLE LOT OF BS. Where have all the promised “reforms” gone? Why are all the FDIs scampering out? Why the rupee is continously falling over the last so many months?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Look at the events in past few months. The country was having fun on the street, enjoying the reality show.

    Take a break from the growth. Enjoy your reality show till the time the reality dawns on you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    A very funny comment.
    On the one hand you say Anna and co are just a bunch of loud mouths, upstarts, nincompoops etc. Now you are cribbing that because of this motley crowd, the economy has slided into the danger zone.

    What about the huge scams, over the last eight years? What about the loot? Why don’t you talk about the Swiss Bank loot?

    If you think Anna Hazare is the reason for all the paralysis afflicting this government, you are in a majority of one.

    Anonymous Reply:

    For that I don’t blame Anna & Co. I actually blame this Govt. for letting this bunch of crowd holding the Nation to ransom.

    We don’t learn from other’s mistake.

    Less than 600 maoist could change the destiny of Nepal.

    If we learnt from that episode, this Govt wouldn’t have allowed Anna & Co grow out of proportion.

    These ministers are good for governance, but they do not know how to win the election or survive the real politic.

  • Anonymous

    Advani’s criticism of BJP, if taken to actions to repair/build, will be quite positive for the country..but if it is strictly a personality contest between him and Gadkari, both will lose, so also the country

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    That was a very nationalistic advice to Gadhakari.

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  • Anonymous

    @Pathak and Shenoy sahab

    Coming back to the discussion on the contrast beteen Indira, Rajiv and Vajpayee and the sort of leaders we need now.

    In 1982 when I managed to attend a lunch thrown to celeberate the Asiad, I was on salary of 2500 (considered grand then) travelled by DTC or my bajaj Chetak and lived in my father’s rather modest government alloted accomodation in Sadq nagar.

    At that point we wanted our leaders to be smart and as good as the rest of the world, even though we felt inadequate. So at the luncheon in the lawns of ashoka, while I congratulated myslef for being the lucky one to get the pass due to my boss (thank you Mallhotra Sir) I was all unquestioning admiration for the Inidra and rajiv I saw there.
    I
    ndira was the unapproachable empress. Haughty, good looking and with a glare which froze a lady who dared to go close to her. Yashpal Kapoor I think shooed away the lady.

    Rajiv, whose role none of us questioned– even though he had no official position– was being given all the credit for the Asiad. Much like Congressmen today want to give credit to all of India to NAC, Rahul and Sonia. Rajiv seemed ill at ease witht he adulation.

    Me and others at the lunch concluded that he looked smart and dynamic . Looking back… probably it was our own comparbly poorer dresses, and our ill at ease with the Western style etiquette. Sonia , just his wife then, was somewhere in the background.

    The point is today’s generation will not have that sort of adulation for the charisma of the Gandhi’s. Many many Indians are now well travelled abroad, have foregn wives and grilfriends and dont see any mystique in Doon school.
    All of us on this blog want India to do well, but few will fall today for the tall stories of the mysterious charms, Sonia and Rahul posses.

    In sharp contrast, Atal Bihari I met at a friends marriage was all the while a people’s Indian. Hindi speaking elegantly, polite, could give a poem, blessing the young married couple.

    He was an MP in the opposition then, but promised to help an old lady wanting to get treatment at AIIMS.

    So take your pick. For me Vajpayee, gracious and witty and no haughty burden of being superior just becasue of birth was definately more human.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    Congress leaders are just following the tradition. Give credit to Gandhi
    family for everything good and blame opposition for the mess.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is very sad part of India. We want to name evrything funded by government and people’s money on one family. I wish they could hve given credit to PV Rao and Manmohan Singh for reforms and even Abdul Kalam for being the most likeable President.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,
    The well travelled Indians are a minority, not even 1%. The real politics is played out there on the street.Else, an Indira clone Sonia couldn’t have got the Congress back on the very first outing.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Pathak
    You may say that only 1% Indians are well travelled, but I would insist that the world has changed totally. When Indians see Macdonalds,coke, IBM and HP, here, they know that we are as good as the world.
    Furthermore when they see the foreign players in IPL and the cheerleaders dancing here for Indian money, many of us feel re-assured that there is nothing superior about foeign white skin.
    Kindly refer to the pasting the COngress got in UP. The combined charisma of Sonia, Rahul and Priyanak did not work. They preferred theri own son of the soil who had gone abroad to Australia.
    I would strongly disagree and restate that in case Congress is backing on the Charisma of the Gandhi name… it will find that its appeal is very very limited to innocents and sycophants.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I wonder in UP why the voters liked their own Son of Soil ( SP ) !
    Perhaps BJP didn’t have a single son of soil in UP.

    Oh ! I forgot they imported somebody from MP and tried to (im) pose as a Daughter of soil !!

    Anonymous Reply:

    I thought we were talking about Rahul and COngress and Sonia here. ( foreign travel and fair Indians). Let me ask you a counter question, have you in your considerable blogging here, lauded anyone else besides Rahul and Sonia?
    Further what enamours you to Rahul so much, even though we have not seen him handle any portfolio or job? Don’t you think he needs to show his “hidden and mysterious” genius in a job through results– say as home Minister or Foreign Miinister before taking charge of the country?
    Please note that even companies which are professional in India have first endevoured to train their heirs, before giving them charge. A shopkeeper in Chandin Chowk will give his son the job– only after training.
    Senior repected corporate leaders like Shiv Nadar– daughter in education, Azim Premji — son rising though different experices in corporate world, Narayan Murthy–son working outside famiy business—
    a) Give no gaurantee to their children that they will give the company to them
    b) make sure that their progeny is well educated and handles responsibilty and shows results.
    So in contrast you feel India should be given lock, stock and barrel to Rahul gandhi as he is the rightfull inheritor?
    There are two prvate power comapnies in delhi. I happen to see them at close. Where the son has got the inheritence without experience, he is makign a mess out of it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    Agree with you that never give your children anything on the platter. They should work hard to deserve that. My personal
    experience.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But, if you have all the spoons in your house made of gold, what would the poor chaps do?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Perhaps you never noticed carefully.

    I truely don’t laud or promote anybody.

    I mostly counter people with counter arguments.

    =====================================

    There is no point running down Rahul. Find a good leader who will defeat Sonia and Rahul “politically”.

    Tell your favourite leaders to strengthen themselves politically rather than wasting time in abusing and running false propaganda campaign. I don’t consider them man enough.

    You must not provoke me talking about your favourite leaders. I may sound nastier than you sound about Sonia or Rahul.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The audience you fancy actually fancy that very younger son who you find fault with. Because he believes in PR than delivering the product/service.

    While the elder son typically works on a product for 7-8 years quietly before approaching the public for money, the younger son raises money 8 years in advance. But if you scan the net around, the crowd you identify with go ga ga over the younger son. Because they blindly follow the rhetoric propaganda.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well i can only speak up for myself. I am not speakign on behalf of the crowd. Just honest observations.
    i would rate the Congress similar, for trying to plede the nation’s future to an untested commodity and demomlishing their own CEO in the process.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The present Congress is far batter than what it used to be. It has all the commitment to professionalise the administration.
    The Govt got carried away with 2009 success and tried to detach itself from the party.

    The guys are really talented. It also has a good bench strength in Scindhia et al.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I hope so. Young Jyotirditya vs Mausi Vasundhra would be a new epic to look forward to and a change of channel.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    I do admire your style of patiently arguing your points.
    You are slightly off the mark. Pandit Vinod Gobindram PathakG has, in fact, praised, besides Sonia and Rahul, Digvinsh Singh plenty of times.

    In fact, he pins a lot of hope on Digvinash to rescue his party from the latest onslaught of Anna team, by tactics of diversion, like calling RSS anti-national, terrorist etc. Anything will do.

    You would have observed his cockiness in claiming that just an outing from 10 janpath into the badlands of UP, Bihar, Haryana and the seats are falling into her joli.

    But, for all his cockiness and despite the recent pastings the mataji got in Bihar, TN, Kerala, UP, Punjab and and also in WB, the slavish, dog-like yearning our people display when they see fair-skinned ladies, may, even in the year 2014, bring the congress somewhere near 125 seats with which it can wiggle itself into power sharing.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy sahab
    I think you should patent the word Digvinash as nothing describes the man, better than this word. Sonia made a wrong choice in getting him to be Rahul’s teacher. She could have chosen Pranab Mukherji. His consistent insistence of Rahul being better than Manmohan was the the begining of the end of this government.
    I have a feeling that the COngress may still manage a crippled majority in 2014. Without the present free market dispensation of Manmohan, it would be a stuttering slipping Mamata type of government, lead by Rahul or maybe Priyanka. I dont see legal sysytem improving or law and order situation changing.

    Anonymous Reply:

    vinoo
    To a great extent, Anna Hazare’s appeal to masses is quite similar to what you felt about Vajpayee.

    Neither Indira nor Sonia demanded the positions, not even worked behind the scenes to steer decisions their way initially. Of course, once there, Indira made sure nobody crossed her. It was then, as now, a group of spineless sevaks who promoted these (enemy’s enemy is my friend theory).

    There was a news two days ago about Pyaremohan trying to sabotage Bijupatnaik govt while he is away in UK..

    Indian “democracy” politics of today is not much different from the feudal kings and palace intrigues of yester years. The only difference is that there is no direct murder like the ones done by Aurangazeb or british killings of BahadurShah’s children…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi
    You are right with the appeal of Anna. However I would want a man who has a constructive team with a economic growth agenda to join up with the corruption fighters.
    We are seeing a tumbing rupee and slow growth. If the India story dries up, so do many of us! Especially people like me in the corporate and finance sector.
    Any good party for captialism with an agenda to fight corruption can sweep the elections in case they manage to work on it from now on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo
    You are right.
    The trajectory, once lost, will be difficult to reset…as we all know what happened during Shrimathi Indira Gandhi’s time..it took 20 years to dig out of the depth she created..

    This is the time UPA and opposition to sit together and get the course right. Chidambaram and MMS are capable people. Congress should unleash them. BJP has to provide constructive, better alternative instead of just opposing.. I was totally pissed off at them for calling this Bandh, I am sure that caused another 1/2 point drop in GDP this month!

  • Anonymous

    I think Vijay has run away to Mount Everest to escape the 45 dg delhi heat.

    Mohan sahab , please crack a joke of the fun you can have in heat to get him back here!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Or, spending 24 hrs in Maurya swimming pool with those golden haired beauties…

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes devdas of Maurya !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    from Kazhakastan.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Not sure if he is playing tennis or basket ball with those beauties !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Maybe biophysics…

    Anonymous Reply:

    New fusion theory with Bio-Chemistry.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The only chemistry the Kazhaki “ladies” understand has the fomula mo2lah.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And Vijay has been digging khazana in recent weeks.

    manohar_T Reply:

    One only hopes there are no issues about his health or his physical well being.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay is being sorely missed here – he is making more news than the absence of Advani and Sushma at BJP Mumbai rally!!

    Btw, your suggestion to use Google Chrome for the blog helped. Navigation is much easier. The comments failed to load on IE for me before I was forced to download chrome.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Hey! I did not recommend Google Chrome, it was FireFox. Never mind, if the former works so much the better, but FireFox is even better.

    Internet Explorer has always sucked since it was developed and would continue to do so. I have not touched it for years now.

  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Opposition’s Bharat bandh evokes mixed response across India

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Oppn-s-Bharat-bandh-evokes-mixed-response-across-India/Article1-863767.aspx

    Excerpts

    In the financial capital, Mumbai, bandh supporters pelted stones at buses in two suburban areas of the city. Elsewhere in Maharashtra, activists pelted stones at 13 buses in Pune, 10 in Nagpur and Thane districts and stopped some buses by blocking roads in Satara district.

    ==

    The bandh disrupted normal life in parts of BJP-ruled Karnataka where bandh supporters set on fire three buses and stoned about a dozen others forcing authorities to withdraw bus services in the city. Public transport was hit and shops and business establishments remained shut in several parts of Karnataka.

    There was no impact of the bandh in Kerala and a lukewarm response to the stir in Tamil Nadu.

    ==

    In places like Nagpur, coercion was used to enforce the bandh.

    The question

    What did the BJP (and the CPM) achieve by calling this bandh, other than

    1) preventing the poor daily wage earners from earning their livelihood
    2) bringing to halt (wherever) the day to day commerce and causing a loss to GDP
    3) destroying public property like buses.

    Did the Government blink and reduce the prices?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How do you protest against a ‘politically conveniently timed’ unprecedented hike in petrol price in a democracy? The hike was announced after the state/MCD elections and budget session were over. By the way, the crude prices are falling on daily basis.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Like Mahatma Gandhi. Just call a hartal, sit back and let the common people decide whether they wish to participate or not. That is the true test of one’s strength and appeal.

    Forcibly preventing poor people from earning their livelihood and in the process many of them would go hungry, coercion & vandalism, destroying our own property. Waah! Do you approve of these arm-twisting methods on unwilling people?

    We have discussed the timing of the announcement earlier and I shall not repeat myself, except ask you – has any crime been committed by political convenience and unprecedented hike?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Both are wrong – the decision of raising the price and the mode of protest against it. You simply can’t blame the opposition unilaterally.

    manohar_T Reply:

    The decision to raise the prices is wrong! That is laughable to say the least. Under which section of the IPC or parliamentary procedures / rules or Government of India rules or any other?

    I am not blaming the opposition, I am only pointing out their shenanigans.

    The bandh should have been used to find out one’s strength and support across the country, now the BJP and the CPM will never know because of arm twisting. What an opportunity lost!

    Did you participate in the bandh (perhaps with a laaThi in hand), forcing the neighbourhood shops and business to down their shutters or decided to take the day off and stayed at home?

    Anonymous Reply:

    You don’t raise the price to ensure a healthier profit for already profit making companies which is traded on Nifty and Sensex.

    The interest of hard working common man should have come first – who is already struggling because of high inflation.

    manohar_T Reply:

    “You don’t raise the price to ensure a healthier profit for already profit making companies which is traded on Nifty and Sensex”.

    Says who?

    “The interest of hard working common man should have come first – who is already struggling because of high inflation”.

    Celebrate. UPA should pay the price for it and It should be ‘happy days are here again’ for the BJP.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Says who?

    Why does a loss making company (without doles from the govt.) needs to be traded in the stock market? Why should anyone be asked to buy their share if they can’t earn profit without getting subsidized by the state?

    manohar_T Reply:

    Duplicate message. Edited out,

    manohar_T Reply:

    Who says there are no doles to the companies? They are healthy because of them. You seem to have forgotten what was posted and discussed earlier. Make that effort to read all that was posted.

    Are you suggesting that these companies be allowed to go to seed like Air India and Railways?

    manohar_T Reply:

    For the year 2011-12

    Indian Oil Corp. Ltd.
    Net Sales : Rs 434508 crores
    Raw material Cost : Rs 390256 (89%)
    Net Profit : Rs 3954 crores (0.90%)

    Hindustan Petroleum Corp. Ltd.
    Net Sales : Rs 178129 crores
    Raw Material cost : Rs 165000 crores (92.%)
    Net Profit : Rs 911 crores (0,51%)

    Note the raw material costs (Saudi Arabia & Iran would be very happy).

    Are these profits enough? From where does this Company get funds for upgradation, expansion, etc.? From the tax payer’s money?

    Anonymous Reply:

    That begs a repeat of my last question. If these companies depend on govt. subsidies, why do they trade in market?

    manohar_T Reply:

    1) What difference would that make if they were not?

    2) I think you pick a some book and find out the advantages of listing a company on the stock exchange. I will only give you one reason – transparency and public disclosures. For others make that effort or perhaps Vinoo will be able to help you.

    PS: AIr India is not a listed company. Need I say anything more?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    I am against Bandhs — looks like they are the chosen protest mechanisms in your pristine democracy…

    kerala had its Bandh last week ….

    Anyway CPM here may break up because of a serious murder issue.
    (however, my “conspiracy theory” mind says Muslim League did it)

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Same here. No hartals and bandhs. No purpose is ever served.

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  • Anonymous

    Apparently Jagan Reddy sister Sharmila is a crowd puller …she may want him to be in jail for ever!

    It seems the sister and brother in-law “Brother” Anil are running the family show now. (“brother” Anil in the south, brother-in-law Robberji in the north)

    Looks like the wind is on their side, another congress MLA resigned and joined their party yesterday.

    But the interesting thing – as Vinoo alluded to somewhere else here , is the sense of and expressed right to “inheritance”..

    Both the mother Vijayalaxmi, and the sister Sharmila (and her husband “Brother” Anil claim Jagan to be the rightful inheritor of Andhra Pradesh (they are campaigning on inheritance, and not for Congress arresting the guy..)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    yes, Sharmila is a stunner. She can trump Sonia Gandhi’s fading pull anyday.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    A must read.

    2012 is not 1991, India can’t live in self-denial
    N K Singh

    The author, a former bureaucrat, is a JD(U) Rajya Sabha MP

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/opinion/guest-writer/2012-is-not-1991-india-cant-live-in-self-denial/articleshow/13679934.cms

    Excerpts

    When I walked into the room of finance minister Manmohan Singh shortly after June 21, 1991, to congratulate him, he told me that “we will change India”. Although I was a point-man dealing with the complex negotiations with the IMF and the World Bank, I had no inkling of the far-reaching changes to be unravelled in the budget presented to Parliament on July 24, 1991.

    Our economic landscape has changed permanently. Comparing the present economic malaise with 1991 may be exaggerated. Foreign exchange reserves were less than $1 billion in June 1991, adequate to cover two weeks of import, compared with $290 billion today, adequate to cover a period of seven months. Average GDP growth rate in 1991-92 (at 1999-2000 prices) was 1.3% compared with the average of the last five years at 7.95%.

    ==

    Domestic debt as percentage of GDP, which was 73.16%, is not significantly lower at 67.1% in 2011-12. Further, the shortterm external debt as a percentage of GDP is 22% compared with 10% in 1991. Inflation, while lower than 1991-92, has been consistently high over the past two years and in 2010-11, it was at 9.6%, uncomfortably close to the double-digit mark. This limits the flexibility of central bankers to ease liquidity, lower the cost of borrowing and make greenfield investments attractive.

    ==

    In 1991, the people of India were acutely conscious that there was a serious crisis. They had braced themselves to accept difficult economic decisions. It would be naive to believe that the far-reaching reforms of 1991 would have been possible without proactive informal channels keeping the opposition parties informed and in the loop. In contrast, the self-denial mode of the last two years, coupled with compulsions of coalition politics, has made some obvious steps more difficult to implement. But there are no easy options. 2012 is not 1991. But it does not give us the licence to live in self-denial because while the world has changed, we have yet to adjust.

    ==

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    Anonymous Reply:

    all valid points.
    Transportation, infrastructure – he either ignored this (or may be coupled with something esle)
    One thing the financial meltdown has shown is that we may not want to be too connected with globalization – leverage opportunities without getting trapped in the risks.. We have done that to some extent, we should reexamibne and tighten the holes.
    Indian entrepreneurism has to be unleashed more..Gujus thrive all over the world..
    I also recommend IIT/IIMs to come with ideas for rural development, government funding of those ideas within guidelines etc

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Our economy is not very dependent upon other countries. I believe it is only about 20% dependency (the major item is the crude oil). We seem to be self-sufficient in most goods and services, hence our country has not seen so much meltdown as others.

    It is another matter that our stock markets start sneezing even before overseas markets and entities catch cold.

    As I said earlier today, we need to have bottom to top development models, so that the our poor get maximum direct assistance in bettering their lot.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Globalization does not mean just import/exports.
    Greece is dying not because they imported more.
    Government expenditure (entitlements, social programs, employees, subsidies etc) cross acceptable levels without prudent economic policy – India is getting to that level with programs like NREGA) —
    US took a major dip because of unregulated financial products and unregulated/low regulated financial sectors. It took many countries down with them.

    Transparency, rule of law, role of government etc are all factors.
    One thing that amazes me here in US is how small the government is (although the political argument of the day is how big the government is/how large the taxation is). Newspapers very rarely cover politics and politicians, unless it is a major news – compare this to our daily lives/papers/Tv . Hindustan times had five front page political stories yesterday, and Los Angeles Times. did not have any political story/news!

    manohar_T Reply:

    1) Other than export and import of goods & services, what else constitutes globalization?

    2) You have a problem with NREGA. Fair enough.

    Do you have a problem, when the Government is trying to reduce and ultimately eliminate subsidies on petroleum products?

    4) Transparency – We are too getting there albeit slowly via RTI Act.

    5) Rule of Law – we have the system in place, but implementation leaves much to be desired.

    6) Government Size – Perhaps the size is lopsided. We do not have enough people, where they are really needed – judiciary and police for example, but excess where not required.

    Anonymous Reply:

    1) Investments, extent of legal reach, tariffs and quantity restrictions, content production requirements, currency floating requirements….etc etc…

    2) I do have a problem in selective subsidies – I am for all subsidies to sunset–subsidies do not let a country grow- The world is full of examples; the most recent being China and Soviet Union central planning and subsidies
    4) RTI act is a good one; but it is after the fact. Also, there have been cases of pursuants getting murdered.
    5) There is no rule of law in the country. Everything needs a recommendation, a bribe… The country has become a two tier class country – those who can pay bribes and who cannot. How many in the political class get real jail punishment? The governors (equivalent to CMs in India), congressmen (equivalent to MPs) etc get charged and committed to real prison sentence. I am told the governor before Bobby Jindal was sentenced to prison term and is in prison now.
    Rule of law requires everybody to be treated equal by law enforcement and judicial process.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Duplicate post. Edited out.

    manohar_T Reply:

    1) What you state in my opinion are just parameters to the goods and services.

    2) Subsidies for the poor should not be objected to, till such time they are able to stand on their own feet with pride.

    3) RTI. Of course, it is after the fact, it cannot be before.Earlier we did not even have it. To some extent it does act as deterrent to hanky-panky.

    I think the Whistle Blowers Act is in the offing..

    4) I do not agree. Rule of Law is there, but it needs to be followed more vigorously.

    Of course, the rich and the powerful generally tend to get away, as it happens in many countries.

    There are some good signs though lately. Haven’t we seen Ministers, MPs,Bureaucrats and businessmen behind bars in the last 2 years.? Earlier, they almost ‘enjoyed’ total immunity.

    The flip side is that decision making process has come to a halt. Bureaucrats and many ministers are reluctant to stick their necks out in the normal discharge of their duties, as decisions taken even in good faith and without any extraneous considerations can land them in trouble later.

    We need to find a way out of this.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar-
    Many problems will go away If we can institute a “rule of law” where prosecutors can prosecute like in US.
    Nobody will bribe anybody here, because as democracy, all of the govt is people’s servants. govt officials know it is tax payer footing their pay.

    Even the highest mighty (billionaire, Politico) is afraid of a cop; cops are addressed as officers.

  • Anonymous

    Desperate times called for desperate measures. That is how I would react to to NK Singh’s article posted by manohar.

    Our misson for reform was proably started by Venkatraman in 1980, but it was done in such small steps, it really did not send any positive signal to the world. I was then working with a CA firm which had been asked by an International shoe company on the prospects of selling branded shoes.

    My seniors in the organisation prepared a repeort showing that how the compny could invest in India, get licences and then buy more licenced capacity etc. The American shoe company executive just had one look at the 338 page report, made a face and flew to Malaysia !

    manmohan Singh and Rao should be congratulated for dumping the issue of licencsing lock stock and barrel,

    I doubt whther Rajiv Gandhi would have been allowed to do the same by the shouting socialist brigade in the Congress

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Nitin Gadkari ignores LK Advani’s salvo, holds top leaders’ meeting

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Nitin-Gadkari-ignores-LK-Advanis-salvo-holds-top-leaders-meeting/articleshow/13689823.cms

    On a day when BJP leader LK Advani made a veiled attack on Nitin Gadkari on his blog, the party president held his ground by holding a meeting of central office bearers to discuss today’s bandh protesting petrol hike and forthcoming agitations against UPA government. Advani was conspicous by his absence at the meeting held at Gadkari’s residence this evening.

    Among those who attended were the leader of the opposition in Lok Sabha Sushma Swaraj, her Rajya Sabha counterpart Arun Jaitley, all party general secretaries and other senior leaders. Party leaders were silent on Advani’s charge that BJP’s campaign against corruption has been blunted by some of the recent decisions taken by Gadkari.

    ==

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gadkari is bad news…
    BJP should yield to Advani’s suggestion of introspection…
    The man is not crazy…
    (actually he looks much better than the mottu ugly guy).

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    manohar_T Reply:

    We need a creditable alternative and the BJP is no hurry nor seems to be keen to play that role, just busy creating internal problems for itself, instead of putting the UPA on the mat. That is why UPA seems to be so smug.

    A kick in the pants to the party in power is regularly required.

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    Ravi Reply:

    How can he be bad news when after careful consideration, some sacrifices, even manipulation of party rules and a few sulkers, he was given a second term.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Pathak, Pankaj, Mohan, Ravi and others.

    Weekly Music Time

    Let us go back to the start of the golden age of Hindi Film Music. I am avoiding the very popular numbers such as from Barsaat & Andaaz, etc.

    1) SHAHEED – 1948 – watan ki raah watan ke naujawaa.n shaheed ho – Mohammad Rafi + H Khan Mastana
    Composer: Ghulam Hyder Lyricist: Raja Mehdi Ali Khan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1TTQe32lwc

    2) LADLI – 1949 – tumhaare bulaane ko jee chahtaa hai – Lata Mangeshkar
    Composer: Anil Biswas Lyricist: Bhezaad Lakhnavi

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUtGUY2X9gc

    3) NIRALA – 1950 – mehfil mei.n jal uThi shamaa – Lata Manngeshkar
    composer: C. Ramchandra Lyricist: P L Santoshi

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_8t78dBNnw

    4) DO BHAI – 1947 – meraa su.ndar sapnaa beet gayaa – Geeta Dutt
    Composer: S D Burman Lyricist: Raja Mehdi Ali Khan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb6Y_6UAU-E

    5) NAGINA – 1951 – ro.oon mai.n saagar ke kinaare – C H Atma
    Composer: Shankar Jaikishan Lyricist: Shailendra

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrSKJdIAVLg

    6) AARAAM – 1951 – man mei.n kisi ki preet – Lata Mangeshkar
    Composer: Anil Biswas Lyricist: Rajinder Krishan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyNQg7zaIfQ

    Enjoy

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manoahr;
    I would have loved to but again caught up in the vortex of work. Damn it.
    looking forward to meet you on 28 or 29 july, though schedule will be very hectic.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    You can always listen to them at the weekend.

    I will keep those date in my diary. I should be in town. We will discuss it around 15ht July.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Beautiful Collection. Did we advance the schedule by 24 hours?

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Thanks.

    Yes by mistake.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Beautiful choice. Did not know that SD Burman worked with Raja Mehdi Ali Khan. One lives and learns.

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  • mukesh

    “arguments didn’t impress me” :- TRUE(except my own!!)
    “case against Singh is of omission” :- TRUE
    “floundering BJP” :- VERY TRUE INDEED.
    “The next two months will decide the UPA’s future for the next two years” :- FALSE!
    Think why and then write again!! This time give more plus to RULERS, they do not have numbers “THERE”, yet they need numbers “OUTSIDE, Well, more friends and well wishers. Keep it up !

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  • Anonymous

    Let us hope and pray Gen Bikram Singh will perform the healing acts, lead the army to be the best fighting/protecting force.. I hope the allegations do not come back to haunt him, and they are just allegations and no substance.

    He and Anthony should show they are India’s best – This may be the first time when both the civilian chief and the military chief are from “minority” communities. Make India a proud example

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  • Anonymous

    Buy a property pay some part in black. Buy jewellery or any expensive
    item – furniture, electronic etc , if you adk for a bill than pay VAT. Organize
    a small party in a hotel/restaurant, half pay in cash, you get bill or balance half.
    Import anything 100% official no under invoicing still you cannot release your
    goods till you pay some bribe. All manufactures record 60-70% of their production balance is sold without any invoice. This all is considered normal style of doing business in India. One just cannot do business in India without
    resorting to these dubious methods.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Then visit Anna at Ramlila Ground in the evening and shout ” Sonia chor hai “

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    My intention of writing above post was not to blame anyone.
    Corruption is everywhere, not only in government departments.
    Maybe what Manohar says is correct, we all are dishonest.
    From my experience I can say that it is almost impossible to run
    profitable business honestly by following all the rules and paying
    all the taxes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan-

    You are absolutely right!
    We still have the old “British System” – bureaucracy whose role is to check and report to a central authority (London before, New Delhi now) we have too much governmental intervention, procedures, rules.. I am visiting USA now. I am simply amazed how simple and straight forward it is in USA (still people complain about “too much government”). Indian corruption will go down significantly if they just eliminate obstructive, non-value adding govt departments.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    I have business in Dubai and Bombay and I have seen the
    compete different style of doing business at both places.
    Here what I could do in few hours, it takes me few days to
    do the same thing in India.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You can’t buy even a small house without paying in black. More than 90% mobiles are bought in the grey market. 80% doctors, 90% lawyers including Bhushsns make illegal money, teachers conduct unauthorized tuitions, yet they do not hesitate to join Anna and Ramdev and start shouting slogans against corruption telling the World that they want to “remove” corruption from the country.
    They firm up their resolve by holding a national flag and shouting “Sonia chor hai”.

    Let’s not talk about the society , let’s talk about shameless “us”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    I will again say that I am not trying to blame anyone and I m not
    talking about any individuals. I am talking about the corrupt ‘us’. Similar discussion I had had with Manohar few months back. Are we corrupt by choice or because we don’t have a choice. Even if I want to, I cannot run a profitable business if I honestly pay all my taxes and follow all rules officially, which leaves me with no option but to adopt corrupt methods.

    Anonymous Reply:

    As much you say, 99% people are corrupt at the individual level. Big institutional and collective corruptions are big ticket one and still can be numbered.

    No lokpal or demonstration can remove the corruption at the individual level. People will still think – ” I have no option but to follow the corrupt practice, while others do”. Nobody wants to be the first one to forego the practice because of the personal loss.

    Never mind. Even team Anna members justify their own corrupt practices are small and thy have right to raise the voice in front of the camera. Let the fun continue.

    manohar_T Reply:

    I agree. Though, we have to accept 50% of the blame. Why are we ready to pay bribes / speed money? To save time and hassles? Why are we ready to pay without invoices/bills? May be as nation, we are a dishonest people.

    For example, the hotels/restaurants agree to accept part cash part official billing on client’s request. If one were to pay all officially, they do not object.

    Regarding manufacturers not recording all their production, if the excise department keeps too close a watch, they are accused of Inspector Raj and harassment. The economy has been opened up, there are fewer controls. How do we react to this freedom? Indulging in underhand dealings.

    Who do we blame?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The way to stop BLACK ECONOMY is through law enforcement. An exemplary fine of 2 crore rising upto 100crore , depending on the size of business and a jail of 15 yrs will put an end to all KALA DHANDHA.
    FEAR IS THE KEY
    Now if there is corruption in enforcement directorate , then vigilance dept should nab them with a view to send them to jail for 30yrs
    NOT ROCKET SCIENCE IS IT

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,

    People – most of us -who generate black mony are corrupt, people who are suppose to catch them – IT dept. sales tax/VAT, police – are
    corrupt, people who are suppose to fight cases against them – lawyers- are corrupt, people who are suppose to punish them – judges – are corrupt. People will not get caught and punished so
    the question of fear does not arise.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    In all seriousness, I say, sooner this UPA II goes better for India.
    Lamhon ne Khata ki
    Sadiyone saza payee.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Who replaces them?

    The one party, which has the chance, is busy creating ghosts and then trying to ward them off.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks Manohar; Who replace them? As we say here, it is a good question. Please contribute, who should replace them?? I am serious, no trivia.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    I am serious too. Even though I would not like the BJP to come to power per se, we always need alternatives, otherwise the one party in power becomes arrogant and smug, that is when good governance can get sacrificed. We need to keep every party on its toes.

    The BJP solely on account of the critical mass in numbers is best placed to replace the UPA. As L K Advani said it aloud recently, is the party ready and trusted by the people. Many people, justifiably so, consider it as B or C Team of the Congress. We have had very bad experiences with the business of third or fourth or tenth fronts (they have too many me-too Prime Ministers) so that option has very little chance of success.

    Since 2009, political experts have been urging the BJP to completely reinvent itself with a proper agenda, shedding unwanted baggage and to occupy the right-of-the-centre space in Indian polity. I remember, when such a suggestion was made in a TV discussion, the BJP’s spokesman then arrogantly retorted that it does not need such a advice, it knows what it is doing, as it is in power in X number of states and it has Y number of MPs, blah, blah, blah. So just shut up.

    With one disaster after another for the last two years and no end in sight, by now the present dispensation should have been told to pack its bags lock, stock & barrel. It has not happened, as the BJP is more at home using its ammunition on trivia, rather using it on serious issues facing the country – it is all noise. The question may arise – is it scared to take on the responsibility to govern? The Congress or any other party needs to be in the wilderness from time to time in the interest of the country.

    Given the scenario, we should not be surprised if the UPA comes back to power in the next general elections, as people also want stability and being nearly at the rock bottom, people might as well say it can’t get any worse, so why take a chance with the alternative, which does not inspire much confidence.

    PS: Gopi is right – the BJP works overtime to lose elections and it does not know how to unwrap gift boxes presented to it by the UPA. How can people repose faith in such a party?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    BJP is expecting that people will get so much fed with Congress’s mishandling of all the issues that they will have no choice but to vote for BJP. Their motto is why work hard for something which they are anyway going to get it. They are living in illusion.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Mohan

    At least L K Advani has reminded them it is not going to happen that way. I hope they wake up to the ground realities for the good of Indian democracy.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Thanks. Said lucidly.

  • Anonymous

    Folks , the absence was due to my making preparation for a visit to Milan on 15th .
    ManMohan Singh is ****. Too much has been made of his role in liberalisation.
    INDIA HAD NO OPTIONS.Remember India was BANKRUPT at that time IT HAD TO DEPOSIT SOME 150 TONS OF GOLD WITH BANK OF ENGLAND, AS A SURETY FOR GETTING IMF MONEY.There was CONFLUENCE of quite a few factors that led to the inevitable liberalisation, yet that did not produce a wholesale collapse of indian manufacturing. THE RISE OF OUTSOURCING AND IT /SOFTWARE(which is totally english language based). OPENING UP OF INDIAN STOCK MARKET TO FDI.This foreign money paid for all the imports (capital goods /consumer goods)GREATEST IS COLLAPSE OF COMMUNISM , INDIA SWITCHING SIDE TO THE ONLY SUPERPOWER.
    What is DIRE in India IS THE PIGHEADEDNESS all round.
    THE ARROGANCE IS BREATHTAKING.
    When the rest of world clamours for FDI , India WILFULLY SCORNS FDI.
    And DAMN WITH COALITION , the should have gone ahead with FDI in RETAIL, and foreign 100% holding in insurance WITH A CAVEAT, that pension fund money will not be invested in stock market without approval of the pension fund owner.
    Prof Paul Krugman spoke on BBC. According to him unless europe including britain adopts Keynasian principles WE ARE IN FOR A LONG SLUMP.
    As for greece it is caught between the devil and deep sea. If it leaves euro , it will return to 1950’s poverty.I have been to ATHENS.There are two Athens , the new one swanky EU funded.The old ATHENS , looks like Jhumri Tilaiya.
    If it stays , the austery measure will long and very bitter pill to endure for a long time.
    SOME BLOGGERS HAVE MADE SNIDING COMMENTS ABOUT NREGA.
    This is classic BROWN INFERIOR RACE SYNDROME.
    So long my class(read 300 million middle uran class) is okay SOD THE REST 700 MILLION.So petrol LPG , DO NOT DARE TO CUT 40 000 CRORE SUBSIDY.Yet NREGA with a modest 10000 crore WHAT A HEINOUS CRIME

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shan;Welcome back. Your style of writing is refreshing. keep it up.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,

    Nice to see you back . Loved reading your post written by you in your
    usual style.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It’s not about the chance people get, but what people do with the chance they get.

    See MMS’s contribution from that angle. BTW from 47 ton gold hypothetication in 90 to 560 ton gold purchase in 2009, India has definitely come a long way under MMS. This investment in gold turned out to be a real prudent one.

    A lot also have been said in recent years about Gandhiji’s non-existent contribution to India’s freedom with an argument that British wanted to leave, they were not forced by the freedom struggle.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gandhiji’s contribution is MINIMAL so far independence of india is concerned .IT WAS EXCLUSIVELY QUID PRO QUO for american support to bankrupt britain in ww2.THERE ARE LETTERS FROM ROSEVELT TO CHURCHILL to attest to this fact.If needed I will quote chapter and verse.
    Gandhiji may well be the reason WHY PARTITION TOOK PLACE.
    GANDHI REPRESENTED AND GAVE SUCCOUR TO “VHP” wing of congress at that time.NO WONDER JINNAH RAN AWAY, AND HE DROVE AWAY NETAJI SUBHAS BOSE , who rightly called him “AN OLD SOFA”
    Gandhiji’s ONLY contribution is raising india’s profile in world stage with his NON VIOLENCE MOVEMENT

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Do I need to believe that lakhs of people who participated in the freedom struggle had nothing to do with the freedom of their country ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    lakhs of soldiers were killed during SEPOY MUTINY ,didn’t acheive independence , did it

    Anonymous Reply:

    lakhs of soldiers were killed during SEPOY MUTINY ,didn’t acheive independence , did it

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, we need to look at the building of the momentum, sustenance over a long period with a common thread to establish the role of a particular individual without discounting the steller roles played by many others.

    manohar_T Reply:

    You may be proving the point that non-violence achieved what an armed struggle could not. Can one conclude that the Netaji’s Indian National Army was destined to fail in getting us the independence. Just wondering.

    However my take is as follows.

    The Sepoy Mutiny or First War of Independence (to be politically correct) was confined to area between Delhi and Lucknow / Kanpur and some support did come over form surrounding regions like the Punjab, but in the rest of India there was not a ripple. That would be reason it did not achieve what it had set out to do.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Shan

    As Pathak has stated the freedom was the culmination of a movement – you can go back to 1857 if you like – and Mahatma Gandhi was the principal face of the movement in the latter stages of this struggle. The World War 2 just hasten the process, but that does not imply that our struggle had no part to play and Gandhi had nothing to do with it.

    Who was responsible for the partition? Depends who you speak to. The debate is still inconclusive.

    Non-violence movement. What a fantastic concept. Has there been anything better? No, if you ask me. All the reformist people/leaders may be starting from Gautam Buddha or even earlier have championed and practiced it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Contribution of Mahatma Gandhi and his non violence movement in freedom struggle cannot be discounted .

  • Anonymous

    The young attractive lady I spoke about yesterday. She was being pestered
    by her colleague who was requesting/pleading/ cajoling/forcing her to
    got out with him for dinner. Fed up, this lady told him ‘ I already have one in my
    pants and I don’t want one more ‘ her colleague asked ‘ what ‘ ?
    She replied ‘ An ******* ‘

    Good morning friends.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Shikhandi gets it all wrong
    TK Arun

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cursor/entry/shikhandi-gets-it-all-wrong

    Excerpts

    Team Anna member Prashant Bhushan has likened Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to Shikhandi , the man-woman of Mahabharata, whom Bheeshma refused to fight and hiding behind whom Arjuna could shoot the arrows that finally felled the Kaurava general. The comparison is singularly inept, on multiple counts. Shikhandi fought at the forefront of the righteous side and helped them win in their battle against the wicked. If the UPA is to be compared to the Pandavas, whom does Team Anna cast as the Kauravas?

    Does it make any sense to portray the UPA as the righteous side? The common sense, in the wake of the 2G scam and many other alleged scams, is that this has been the most corrupt government in India’s history, although it is headed by a man who is personally honest. Let us see what the UPA has actually achieved, since it came to power in 2004.

    ==

    The UPA enacted the Right to Information. It deepens democracy and enhances accountability .

    Of course, RTI activists are being killed, the Act is not being used to a
    fraction of its potential to generate information that would hold power to account. But a beginning has been made and institutionalised. The UPA presided over the fastest period of growth in India’s history. It managed to garner a share of the income generated as taxes and redistributed it to rural people who could not participate directly in the growth. The right to work programme and Bharat Nirman, an amalgam of rural development schemes, enhanced rural purchasing power, built infrastructure. This improved welfare and social cohesion. Poverty declined at the fastest rate in India’s history over 2004-09 . Special schemes in education, healthcare and welfare have produced results. School enrolment soared, although the quality of teaching has not. Women give birth in hospitals in larger numbers

    Polio has been beaten.

    ==

    The truth is that the proceeds of corruption fund all political parties. This is not a UPA failing but a failing of Indian democracy. The UPA can be faulted for not having the guts to begin a clean-up of political funding. The Shikhandi comparison is wrong, also because he led a side that desperately wanted to win. The UPA is bunch of losers who lack conviction and a sense of self-worth. By still leading them, Manmohan Singh shows fortitude that is superhuman, leave alone manly.

    E

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    The 5.3% question

    Government must first acknowledge that the main problem is policy uncertainty

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/the-5.3-question/956305/0

    Excerpt

    The biggest factor that has resulted in today’s GDP weakness is uncertainty which has led to a sharp fall in investment growth. This includes both policy uncertainty, exacerbated by the finance minister and his tax police in an effort to grab the greater share of a shrinking pie, and by the environment ministry that halted projects mid-stream, and scandals. Inflation, particularly in consumer prices, has been inching up, but the government either ignored it by talking about the WPI or provided new excuses for its rise.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This can not be totally correct. Please ask PathakG. As per him, all this is primarily because of the shouting brigade of Team Anna!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    (: (;

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How many hours did you watch television during those days? Perhaps lot more than you ever watched Football at a stretch.

    Months of unrest not only paralysed the Govt., it also pushed bureaucracy and FDI onto backfoot.

    I hope somebody does a real impact analysis in terms of loss.

    Perhaps CAG would do a good job. It specialises in presumptive loss calculation.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak Saab kabhi nahin manènge. This is what I appreciate
    about him – his consistency.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think about a problem once. Try to get as much info possible at that moment. Then only I remember only the conclusion. I don’t evaluate same set of problems everyday.

  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Mother needs help
    Anjana Rajan

    Rajendra Singh, the waterman, tells why he thinks India cannot lay
    claim to having any rivers any more, and why there is yet reason to hope

    http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/metroplus/article3472725.ece?homepage=true

    Excerpts

    On the basis of such everyday actions, many within the reach of the ordinary individual, India’s celebrated ‘Jal Purush’, Rajendra Singh has achieved astounding results in water management and replenishment of rivers in the country. But the man with a following of thousands and who has inspired countless others still seems to count every drop as a blessing. So it was that this Monday when he was in the Capital to convene a meeting of the Jal Biradari, the “National Water Brotherhood” of his organisation Tarun Bharat Sangh, Singh was keen to hear the views of every member in the room, be they activists, students, agricultural workers or religious leaders. The soft-spoken environmentalist is in the midst of planning a rally to be held in New Delhi on June 18 to draw the authorities’ attention to the state of the Ganga, declared India’s national river but no better than a “drain” as Singh puts it.

    ==

    Today, however, “Ganga Maa is really sick,” says Singh. He has toured
    along the entire route of the river, “from Gaumukh to Ganga Sagar and
    back,” and concludes that the state of the river is primarily due to three factors: The bad policies (“ku neeti”) of the government, the decadent actions (“bhrasht aacharan”) of the public and the failure of the people’s leaders (such as the religious and spiritual leaders). “Raj and samaj (the government and the society) are greedy. But it is the duty of the sant, known today as the paryavaran vid (the environmental experts), to guide them. They too have shirked their responsibility. I can’t absolve them.”

    This is the reason, he says, that “there are no rivers left in India.” He emphasises that he is not making a statement for the sake of shock value. A river can be called one when its water is clean, fit for drinking, and when the living beings in it are healthy too. This cannot be said to be the case of the country’s rivers. Singh explains that it has been scientifically proven that the pollutants that affect a river in India remain in the water for 45 kilometres after it leaves a city. “That is lucky for us, because in the U.S. the effect has been found to remain for 200 kms.” The river naturally cleans itself thanks to the atmosphere and the sun’s rays, etc., he says. “But after 45 kms, the river will hit another town, so where is the chance to have a real river?”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The books left to us by our ancestors had in it the concept of life for rivers (trees, mountains…)

    A river runs through the curse of Ahalya.. (Ahalya was also a famous painting of Raja Ravi Varma) ..

    Rishi Gautama started his day with a bath in the Ganges; but before the bath he will make sure river is “awake” (Rivers also need sleep, they are living beings being the notion).. One day he wakes up early (thru the shenanigans of Ahalya , his wife and Indra), goes to the river, touches the river, is aware that the river is still sleeping and he is there too early.

    The curse that she be a stone, and that Indra have 1000 dicks (a group interprets “eyes” instead of dicks) etc follows…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ganga the most revered river if India. Reverence of a river should mean that it should be always kept clean, it’s water should be used for drinking, irrigation etc. but we use this most revered river for dumping wastage
    in such a massive scale that it as become one of the most dirtiest river
    of our country.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Mohan & Gopi.

    This what we do. We clean our own houses and just throw the ‘kachraa’ outside, forgetting that outside is part of our society and environment and thinking it is for someone else to worry about it. That is precisely what is happening to our rivers, other water bodies and the environment.

    We need a complete makeover in lot of things.

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  • Anonymous

    The CVC has referred the Coalgate Complaint to the CBI for an Inquiry. What does it mean ?
    a) The Complaint is neither frivolous nor vexatious and on the face of the Record there is sufficient material to warrant an Inquiry.
    b) There is an element of criminality in the Complaint in the eyes of the CVC which requires the Inquiry to be conducted by the CBI ,
    c) alternatively, complaints of wrong-doing by a Public Authority are generally referred for an Inquiry by the Departmental CVO or one of the Commissioners of Departmental Inquiries within the CVC.
    Can Team Anna and the country be faulted if it asks for an Indepedent Inquiry when the Complaint is against none other than the PM of India….Will the fate CVC shall be the same ….be branded as “Plan V” of the RSS …the country shall not be surprised if the stone-pelters get to work sooner than later on TV.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It was referred with a not too subtle prod by PMO , IN ORDER TO TAKE THE WIND OUT OF THE SAIL OF DICK HEAD KEJRIWAL.
    PM has said IT MAY HAVE BEEN AN BAD BUSINESS ACUMEN , but it was NOT CORRUPT ie,NO MONEY WAS PAID TO MMS BANK ACCOUNT

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What we are forgetting is that it normally takes that long in bureaucracy to implement any new policy implementation. Supposed to be 4 year delay is nothing with a decision of this magnitude. In Govt. departments much smaller contracts have been taken much longer time. Anybody with slightest experience in Govt. business would know this.

    The whole effort is to find out what could be thrown at the individual member of the Govt. Then just prepare the list and keep the media busy till one gets some leverage.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Why do we accept “4 year delay is nothing”..govt departments much smaller have taken longer time..”

    I do not think these are issues of finding what could be thrown at and taking leverage. I also do not think MMS has any financial inteerst/stake in that. On the surface it looks and smells bad
    . let us not hope it is not another Spectrum

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    As delay in implementation of any policy has become a norm which no one questions in a same way looting has also become
    a norm which no one is suppose to question.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Delay in implementation or implementation in a hurry have similar impact.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Mohan & Gopi

    It is a catch-22 situation.

    1) Decide and jump in hurry and then repent later.
    a) Questions are raised as to what was the hurry?
    b) Is there more to it than meets the eye?

    2) Delay the decision and accusation of procrastination / non-performance are hurled.
    a) Questions are raised as to why the delay?
    b) Is there more to it than meets the eye?

    ==

    I do not know this 4 year delay refers to which particular decision/project. Generally, the decision making process is slow and bureaucratic (better to be cautious than be sorry later), especially when the funds that would be needed are huge.

    Take for example, the river linking project, which has been ‘pending’ for over 50 years, so to speak. Suppose then they had decided to go ahead with the project – the disasters that would have come upon the country are unimaginable. This is an extreme example and this project is not likely to be executed for a very long time or never.

    I wonder what should be the ideal median.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The longer the delay, the more “profit”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    With the political environment prevailing now CVC wouldn’t like to do even a preliminary investigation of its own. It has passed on to the complaint to CBI for the preliminary investigation. It’s nothing more than forwarding a complaint.

    In normal circumstances, CVC might have gone through few steps and process to validate the complaint. In this case it just let CBI do that.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sir ..are you accusing the CVC of not performing his duties with due diligence…abdicating his responsibilities… on a matter concerning the PM of India.
    How can it be overlooked that this complaint has reached the office of the CBI after being processed by two Constitutional Authorities ..the CAG and the CVC.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “….complaint has reached the office of the CBI after being processed by two Constitutional Authorities ..the CAG and the CVC…..”

    ????

    When did CAG process the complaint ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    The first finding of a wrong-doing came from a CAG audit report.

    Anonymous Reply:

    How did CVC process the complaint ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    The procedure for processing of complaints by the CVC is provided in the Vigilance Manual and the Guidelines issued .
    But does it really matter … as you have already accused the CVC of non -application of mind and sending to CBI in a mechanical manner.

    Anonymous Reply:

    How about providing some details on this case ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do you not know ? Nevertheless
    The Central Vigilance Commission has asked the CBI to examine a complaint about alleged losses suffered by the public exchequer in the allocation of coal blocks between 2006 and 2009,…… there was no legal impediment to the introduction of a transparent and objective process of competitive bidding for allocation of coal blocks for captive mining as per the July 2006 legal opinion of the ministry of law and justice, and this could have been done through an administrative decision. However, the ministry of coal went ahead with the allocation of coal blocks through the screening committee route and advertized in September 2006 for allocation of 38 coal blocks and continued with the process till 2009,”

    Anonymous Reply:

    I thought you would share with us the steps taken by CVC before referring to CBI.

  • Anonymous

    dr Shantanu
    Welcome back-

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  • Anonymous

    David Bolland, a friend of India, and a writer of many books and producer of many documentaries on “Kathakali” passesa way at his house “malabar” in UK-

    http://www.thehindu.com/arts/cinema/article3476416.ece?homepage=true

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  • Anonymous

    Interesting developments in Jagan/Congress tussle – three more Congress MLAs have resigned and joined YSR Party. The rumour is crores were given to these MLAs (YSR/Jagan has crores and crores of unaccounted crores).

    There is no news about the 8 boxes of rupee notes found in Chiranjeevi’s house.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    As long as Chiranjeevi is in alliance with Congress nothing will happen to
    him, as soon as he dares to oppose them than he will be sharing cell
    with Jagan.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Whatever happened to Amir Khan and the hooplaa surrounding his serial?

    ==

    Doctors want Aamir Khan to apologise after Satyamev Jayate episode
    http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_doctors-want-aamir-khan-to-apologise-after-satyamev-jayate-episode_1696485

    Medscape India, an umbrella body of 21 medical institutions, has asked Bollywood actor Aamir Khan to apologise for “defaming” doctors on his TV show Satyamev Jayate.

    In an open letter dashed off to Aamir, the Medscape India said it was “shameful” that doctors be subject to such unilateral scrutiny, while acknowledging that representation of malpractices by doctors is “rather sad”.

    “Doctors operate in the same socio-legal environment as everyone else; are a part of the present society. No wonder that the practices of dishonesty, corruption, scams have percolated down to this profession as well. Hence they can not be isolated from the society and remain in ivory towers,” the letter said.
    ==

    “The age-old practice of bracketing them with God, a statement with which Mr. Khan began the show, no more holds true. Doctors are professionals trained to serve and heal society, and earn a livelihood as well in the process. Doctors too are forced to pay bribes for licenses as other common citizens of this country,” it said.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Blame the messenger as usual…

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Messenger who?

    I am only wondering (as I have chosen not to see the serial) what happened to him and his serial, so much hooplaa was created around him,

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    Anonymous Reply:

    not you–
    doctors are blaming Amir for bringing the doctor corruption up..

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Doctors operate in the same socio-legal environment as everyone else; are a part of the present society. No wonder that the practices of dishonesty, corruption, scams have percolated down to this profession as well. Hence they can not be isolated from the society and remain in ivory towers,” the letter said.”

    These apology seeking doctors for get that by their malpractices, they are playing with the lives and property of the patients, in most cases, poor, gullible folks.

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  • Anonymous

    Mulayam Singh next PM of India?

    SP leader eyes PM berth.

    http://gulfnews.com/news/world/india/sp-leader-eyes-pm-berth-1.1030350

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    manohar_T Reply:

    One instance of ‘me-too’ Prime Minister.

    Let us start keeping count.

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  • Anonymous

    CBI judge suspended on corruption charges :

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Hyderabad/CBI-judge-suspended-on-corruption-charges/Article1-864298.aspx

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He should have taken advice from 10 Janpath on how to keep it in Swiss Bank instead of nephew’s locker..

    Crores flowing.. Mahadevan talks about crores to the four MLAs.. Country is doing well.
    I remember Srimathi Indira Gandhi and the Rs 60 lakh incident with SBI/Nagarwalla,,, It was a big anount…biggest in the country (at least the ones that came out)..now you have to give that money to a Panchayat member to switch

    Democracy is growing in leaps and bounds

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    Anonymous Reply:

    May be he could put that in some temple donation box. So pathetic.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And for some .. the biggest temple is at 10 Janpath

    Anonymous Reply:

    I thought the biggest and grandest was being constructed elsewhere.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes there is .. but it is of no significance to those who give and take crores.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What matters is the power of the devta residing inside. Gopurams and grand peripherals are only decorative.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Today BJP is like that devta-less temple.

  • Anonymous

    Shan-

    I vistied Milan last year. It is a beautiful place. I bought two pairs of Salvatore ferragami (?) shoes,, best shoes I ever had.

    However, not all experience was pleasant. I was pickpocketed. Also, more than once I felt there was overt racism – initially I thought it may be the “Muslim” stuff,,but not; it was anti foreigner/anti brown colour..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are lucky just being pick pocketed.
    Indian girls have complained of bottom-pinching, just like in India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb too would have loved to be bottom-pinched than pick-pocketed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shoeb

    Indian and Italian links go beyond Sonia.

    In my few days in Rome and Milan I could conclude

    a) They are racist to the brown and black foreigners. Well in India we are racist to our black foreigners but bow towards the white, as Congressmen do to white Sonia in some sort of inferiority complex.

    b)Italians have huge family loyalties, something akin to Indian families and joint families.

    c) They have the original mafia and invented the word. We have more mafias then them

    d) Their attitude towards women is similar. In our official company reception, all the women stood separately, much like India.

    e) Thye too hang and loiter around streets, with boys passing comments on girls and you can see a fair amount of rashly driven scooters and motorcycles.

    I think based on this the Congressmen can proclaim that , this is the reason why we want Sonia to be PM !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    shoeb, I am not sure I can afford Salvatore Ferragamano shoes.They are Rolls Royce of shoes.As for pickpocket , I am a tad surprised, for Milan is very affluent , high fashion and high finance. However on my last visit to Rome I was aware that i need to be extra careful about my wallet. However Florence, pisa and Venice was totally different. THEN AGAIN THINK ABOUT THE SITUATION IN PALERMO SICILY. Despite all that i am hoping to visit scily in my next trip. Also italy is on the brink of being pushed out of euro. As for racism , Milanese (lombardy) have their own party THE NORTHERN LEAGUE (forza italia) who are ultra nationalist and want to break off from italy . They feel they are being leeched by the corrupt and poor southern italy ie, naples and sicily.However the crown for VILE RACISM goes to UKRAINE and Poland. This is the same ukraine , where a girl burnt indian flag in front of indian embassy. The reason. She was denied visa to travel to india , for indian authorities suspected SCORES of ukranian girls making bee line , are not going to india for spiritual gain , but for monetary gain through not so moral activities

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,

    do not take the trouble of trvelling to the bad lands of Cicily and Palermo. Do not waste your money.

    Take internet lessons from Sonia Gandhi on all aspects of Mafia, Fascism, white supremacy, racism, KKK and all related matters.

    And if she is in a good mood, she may even give you lessons in squirreling money into Swiss Bank accounts.

    DO NOT AT ALL MIND PATHAKJI’S PROTESTATIONS ON THE VERY MENTION OF MATAJI’S NAME.

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  • Ravi

    Death of a Communal Don

    Chief of Ranvir Sena, a private militia of upper caste landlords, was allegedly responsible for perpetrating several killings including Laxmanpur Bathe massacre of 61 Dalits way back in December 1996.

    He who lives by the sword dies by it

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Bihar/Ranvir-Sena-chief-killed-red-alert-in-Bihar-curfew-imposed-in-Ara/Article1-864235.aspx

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi, why would you give a title “death of a communal don” — He was a don, killed all indiscriminately, killed several leftists (of all communities)..he killed Dalits too to protect his interests.

    Anyway , I welcome this!
    Hope the killing spreads against all perpetrators including the economic perpetrators, corrupt officials, ministers..

    Fear (of death, jail, loss of honour (may not be any more)) is the only motivator… Our so called democratic government, time and again, has shown its weaknesses and incompetencies – this man’s release from jail is a perfect example of how the fru ed up ssytem works in this country.

    Raja and Kanimozhi will see their case go for ever, (definitely beyond my life)..

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  • promptin

    We can not leave our destiny in the hands of a few elected people (either UPA or NDA). Also we are not ready to make our destiny only on the voting day. Voting is only one way to try and make our destiny. But now it is going to be a day to day business. When middle class is feeling the pinch then what about the poor.
    The problem is that people who are not struggling in the life will never understand the agony and pain which a common man feels. I think the mood and reaction which you see is here to stay and is natural. Now we want results from any Govt. And we want results very fast.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Just a ploy to remain in the news
    ==

    I have no faith in PM: Anna Hazare

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Maharashtra/I-have-no-faith-in-PM-Manmohan-Singh-Anna-Hazare/Article1-864365.aspx

    Expressing disappointment over the Centre not doing enough to eradicate
    corruption, anti-graft crusader Anna Hazare has said he has lost his faith in Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

    “I had a strong belief in Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, but now I do not have faith in him,” Hazare said during a visit to Ratnagiri.

    “We have to select persons having good character and send them to
    Parliament, then only the expected change will take place,” he added.
    ==

    1) He has no faith, so what is he going to do about it?
    2) Good character? Only certificates issued by Team Anna are a proof.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar-
    In my 61 years, I have not seen corruption at this scale and scope as now. It may not have anything to do with UPA as such, quite probably it is the IAS/administrative systems behind all the cumbersome process that “opens” up opportunities. May be it is the government’s role in all minutia that crops up these “unparalleled” opportunities …..may be we will resort to the 1 lakh level when economy dives down to the Hindu rate.

    Anna as an individual Indian is exercising his freedom to raise this. He is attracting people. May be sinister forces are behind him pumping him. Does not matter. In this situation, it will be foolish for UPA (And UPA supporters like you) to badmouth and fight against Anna or Ramdev; rather, fix the house in order. We are not talking about 1 lakh here and there; and we have not even touched the surface of YSR amassing.

    What is an honourable man if he cannot say enough is enough. Or may be he is fixing the problem; he should either communicate it, or should show the results for it.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    They had a golden opportunity to be a force to reckon with and they completely missed it, in fact destroyed their own creditability. Now none of the political parties are ready to do any business with them, hence such statements – I have no faith in the PM. Tomorrow it will be “I have no faith in Indian democracy” (which would be music to your ears).

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    bad mouthing is the only thing this congressi troll does well.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Look who is talking – the resident abuser himself?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Anna is like Vajpayee. He gives one statement in Delhi, another in Manali and yet another in Goa.

    When Prashant gave a statement about PM, Anna was not around, so he disapproved it when asked for opinion at his village.

    Few days after, under influence of the team, he gives another statement.

    As I told before Kejriwal & Co has the same throttling grip over Anna as Maywati had on Kanshiram, not that I really give a damn.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    With the initial ’success’ of the movement and the public ‘adulation’, I suspect, even Anna started believing in all the rhetoric he and team were spewing and he started imagining (he still does) that he is destined to change the fortunes and discourse of this country. The objective was noble, but the tools and methods third rate.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak

    I think you are being unfair to Vajpayee.

    Why dont you look at Sonia and rahul

    Sonia only reads out her statements and is incapable of giving any original herself.. Rahul does not even read out his statements to the press as he is mortally afraid of cross questioning.

    And yet both of them in your eyes are the only people capable of being Prime Ministers in a country of 1.2 billion.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There is a coherence in whatever Sonia does. You don’t see flip-flop by hours.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting two tough questons for you to ponder over!

    *2
    **TOUGH QUESTIONS**
    *
    Question 1:
    If you knew a woman who was
    pregnant,
    Who had 8 kids already,
    Three who were deaf,
    Two who were
    blind,
    One mentally retarded,
    And she had syphilis,
    Would you recommend
    that she have an abortion?

    Read the next question before looking at
    the response for this one.

    Question 2:
    It is time to elect a new world
    leader, and only your vote counts.
    Here are the facts about the three
    candidates.

    Candidate A:
    Associates with crooked politicians, and
    consults with astrologers,
    He’s had two mistresses,
    He also chain
    smokes,
    And drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.

    Candidate B:
    He was
    kicked out of office twice,
    Sleeps until noon,
    Used opium in
    college,
    And drinks a quart of whiskey every evening.

    Candidate
    C:
    He is a decorated war hero.
    He’s a vegetarian,
    Doesn’t
    smoke,
    Drinks an occasional beer,
    And never committed
    adultery.

    Which of these candidates would be our
    choice?

    Decide first … No peeking, and then scroll down for the
    response.

    Candidate
    A is Franklin D. Roosevelt.
    Candidate B is Winston Churchill.
    Candidate C
    is Adolph Hitler.

    And, by the way, on your answer to the abortion
    question:

    If you said YES, you just killed Beethoven.

    Pretty
    interesting isn’t it?
    Makes a person think before judging someone.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    very good one BVS!

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  • Anonymous

    Pranab Mukherji, our wise FM, has said that GDP will rise this year.

    Sure, Sir, you are also very naughty, when

    you mean G stands for GOLD
    D stands for DOLLAR
    And ………P stands for PETROL…………..!

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  • Anonymous

    A disturbing info on “English only” children growing up in India!
    Those parents are on the wrong track!
    No wonder Sonia gets attention because of her white skin!

    http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/indias-new-english-only-generati

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    manohar_T Reply:

    I trust you are teaching your children ‘Gujarati only’.
    He will need all the ’support’ from children for his journey to New Delhi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    My gf was fairer than Sonia, anyday.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Congtats! Did she fructify into becoming your wife… or was it a college season affair?
    Sahab, I thnk she is still somewher in the corner of your mind as you do fall for fair skin…
    Just to pull your leg… she must be from Norway as I noticed people out there were fairier than the tanned Italians!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    My kashmiri gf and wife is no less than any firangi.

    BTW, I did date Norway ambassader’s daughter and roamed all over with her( my wife doesn’t know).

    Anonymous Reply:

    All over her… or all over with her! There is a vital difference…
    If you were lucky enough to date the Norway ambassador;s daughter,,, you must at least compliment me that the forensic accountant in me , gets close to facts…

  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Andhra HC suspends CBI judge who gave bail to mining baron Reddy

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Hyderabad/Andhra-HC-suspends-CBI-judge-who-gave-bail-to-mining-baron-Reddy/Article1-864615.aspx

    A Special CBI court judge T Pattabhiramaa Rao, who gave bail to
    high-profile accused and mining baron G Janardhana Reddy, has been
    suspended by the Andhra Pradesh high court amidst charges of bribery and corruption. First Additional Special Judge for CBI cases Pattabhirama Rao has been placed under suspension after the High Court considered the information it received against the judge in “public interest”, the high court Registrar said in a release.

    Incidentally, the judge had granted bail to former Karnataka minister Gali Janardhan Reddy in the OMC illegal mining case last month while he had rejected bail to IAS officer Y Srilakshmi, another accused in the OMC scam.

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  • Anonymous

    Pathak
    I think you are being unfair to Vajpayee.
    Why dont you look at Sonia and rahul
    Sonia only reads out her statements and is incapable of giving any original herself.. Rahul does not even read out his statements to the press as he is mortally afraid of cross questioning.
    And yet both of them in your eyes are the only people capable of being Prime Ministers in a country of 1.2 billion.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vajpayee gives one statement in Delhi, another in Manali and yet another in Goa.

    Vinoo,

    Go ahead, dispute the statement.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    He also said something in Ahmadabad to Modi and in Goa he said something completely different.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar sahab
    Mamohan said he will roll back prices. 3000 days have passed and we all are waitign for the 100 days to end. Whatever your ideological afiliations, are you happy with the idea that the country should be run by a person who has not even shown results as a sales man?

    manohar_T Reply:

    I am not supporting Manmohan Singh, just because he belongs to a certain party. If he has promised something and not delivered, he needs to be taken to task. I have no problem.

    Now let me have your views on ‘Raj Dharma’ – vs – ‘aag kis ne lagaayi’?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Aag kis ne lagayi statement is not a good one. However it was also a blatant statement of fact that Godhra burnings of innocentw casued the riots.
    In fact people who cook up stoires to claim that Kar sevaks committed suicide or there is a RSS hand behind the Godhra train buring are the worst culprits who are rubbing salt in the wounds of the victims.of the train burning.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Perhaps, we will never know what happened in Godhra. Now the case is before the Gujarat High Court and then it will go to the Supreme Court. I will await till then to know the Supreme Court judgment. You have reached a conclusion already, so be it.

    Good to know that it was not good to make that statement in Goa. Pathak has been saying all along- people make contrasting statements in different locations.

    Anonymous Reply:

    He made one statement.
    But he didn’t change the statement like Vajpayee next day.

    Anonymous Reply:

    In your opinion prices have now rolled back to 2002 levels becasue manmohan made a statement?

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Pathak G

    Sure he is the same Vajpayee, Vinod Sharma wants to nominate for bharat Ratna. I think you should ask Sharmaji to withdraw his recommendation.

    Rahul is afraid of giving any press statement as he would probably think that the capital of Pakistan is Pyongyang. Dispute this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You didn’t dispute my statement.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I saw one Rahul in BJP,bad..pretty bad…

    Anonymous Reply:

    But my balance sheet says

    Sonia only reads out statements and Rahul is incapable of giving statements. But you would only want them to be PM of this country, without showing result in any other job.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But my balance sheet says

    Sonia only reads out statements and Rahul is incapable of giving statements. But you would only want them to be PM of this country, without showing result in any other job.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But my balance sheet says

    Sonia only reads out statements and Rahul is incapable of giving statements. But you would only want them to be PM of this country, without showing result in any other job.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Come on man! You decide if you want to argue as a forensic accountant or a party affiliate… you can’t have it both way…..if you play both way…you may have identity crisis.

  • Anonymous

    @ Pathak Sahab

    I think you should make a visit to Italy to revise your opinion of the hidden mental faculties you may feel the Italians may possession as a matter of genetic inheritance.

    An Indian candidate for the PM’s seat would draw hoots, scorn, jokes, racist comments, spits (yes they also spit) and the best of Mussolini style fascist reactions.

    One side we Indians are incapable of running a nation because some of us make huge money through corruption. Another set of older Indians ( small percentage) is so enamored of white skin that they would want to be ruled by them thinking them to be Gods because fo the skin type.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Another lie nailed.
    ==

    Power surplus Gujarat clocks 190 MW deficit in peak hours

    Avinash Nair : Ahmedabad, Thu May 31 2012, 05:11 hrs

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/power-surplus-gujarat-clocks-190-mw-deficit-in-peak-hours/956028/0

    According to data provided by the Union Ministry of Power, Gujarat
    faced a deficit of 143 MW during peak hours in March. The case has been
    similar for all the months between April 2011 and March 2012, when the
    state stared at a deficit between 70-350 MW.

    Even during the winter months (November-January), the deficit was
    in the range of 150 MW. The deficit was highest in July when the state
    saw a shortfall of 350 MW.

    ==

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Very small. That is nitpicking. really unfair nitpicking.

    I am sitting in a power cut in Delhi– 3 hrs since evening.

    The Power supply office where I went for audit– had a power cut of 1 hour.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    The question is not of small or big. The question is about making ‘tall’ claims of surplus power. I am very glad it is small deficit and would be happier if there was none. Gujarat is part of India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    manohar- You are out of your mind! Did the shortfall affect households – eelctricity shutdown for hours that is common in most of the states – did it affect industrial production resulting in state GDP be down– what are you talking about???

    Dont fall into the Nehru trap – where he, during his trip to US, wanted to show kennedy that Americans also shi- in the open; but on close examination it was the Indian ambassador..n

    manohar_T Reply:

    I may be out of mind. Thank you for telling me.

    My point is the tall claims made by your hero for whitewashing purposes.

    Anonymous Reply:

    you really are going bananas… Granted the electriocity production (whatever is the metrics is less than projected.. did it have an impact like the 3 hr power cut that vinu is talking about?

    Anonymous Reply:

    you really are going bananas… Granted the electriocity production (whatever is the metrics is less than projected.. did it have an impact like the 3 hr power cut that vinu is talking about?

    Anonymous Reply:

    you really are going bananas… Granted the electriocity production (whatever is the metrics is less than projected.. did it have an impact like the 3 hr power cut that vinu is talking about?

    manohar_T Reply:

    Thanks for another compliment. I feel honoured. I must be really going bananas.

    I await further ‘compliments’ from your ‘learned’ mind.

    Anonymous Reply:

    so, did they have to shut off velectrictty? Was there a 23 x 7 instead of 24 x 7? (also dont believe the NAir press people- theya re akll MArxists)

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    manohar_T Reply:

    1) Who should I believe? People recommended by you? Tell that to someone else.

    2) I did read that the farmers were not getting enough supply. I will have to ferret out the link and post.

    3) I believe the solar power is also facing a problem. Let me find the link.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    1) Electricity surplus Gujarat not so ‘power full’, reveals census

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/electricity-surplus-gujarat-not-so-power-full-reveals-census/932815/0

    For a state that claims to be the ‘energy’ hub of the country, the census data reveals there are only 46 lakh homes who either use Liquified Petroleum Gas (LPG) or Piped-Natural Gas (PNG) as fuel for cooking.

    There is still a majority 63 lakh homes that either use age-old sources of fuel like crop residue (leftovers of crops), cow-dung cake or fire wood as fuel for cooking. Surprisingly, about eight lakh of such homes are in the urban areas.

    Similarly, an additional nine lakh homes use kerosene to light their stoves; seven lakh of which are in urban centres.

    2) Congress flays govt for denying surplus power to farmers

    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-03-15/ahmedabad/31196411_1_power-plants-surplus-power-mw

    Senior Congress leader Siddharth Patel, raising serious objection to selling away power like this, said, “In 2000-01, the state’s farmers were supplied with 15,489 MUs of power, while in 2010-11, the total supply of power to the farmers went down to 13,285 MUs. While the state government claims that it has provided large number of new connections this year, more than any time in the past, one fails to understand why the farmers failed to get enough power.”

    To a question by Anil Joshiara, a legislator from Bhiloda in north Gujarat, whether the state government proposes to increase the quantity of power given to the farmers from the current eight hours a day, because it has surplus power, and stop selling it to other states, the minister replied, “We do not have enough sub-stations.”
    ==

    Surplus power and not enough sub-stations. Great.

    You may rubbish these reports to your heart’s content.

  • Anonymous

    Guys
    The issue we are facing today is not what Vajpayee said in Goa or Ahmedabad – Vajpayee is a commoner like you and me – it is what UPA did or did not do in the last few years; how they can reset, steer the country etc.
    What are they going to do with coalition partners like Mamta? How can they get out of the paralysis? Can they drop Mamta and barter with somebody else, including BJP…

    The way Pathak (and to some extent Manohar) articulates the problem is it is all opposition’s fault, or Anna’s fault, or Ramdev;s fault –for Pete sake it is the UPA govt , not Anna govt or BJP govt or MArxist govt..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    After defeat in election, the opposition must play a constructive opposition role.The UPA did mostly. It left the Govt of the day to decide the best possible option for the moment, be it Khandar or Parliament attack.

    BJP didn’t play that role when in opposition.

    RSS sprung up shadow boxers in the form of Anna and Ramdev.

    A protest to highlight an issue is fine. But a constant siege strategy is wrong and got to be dealt ruthlessly.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Your reading of the situation is wrong. The attack on the government came from inside, when Sonia asked Digvijay to attack an d diminish Manmohan so that Rahul’s walk to the top job became easy.
    From then on the Congress has been reeling and reeling.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Tell your so called Ram to fight on his own. Stop looking for a Bibhishan.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    pathak G;
    Please do not go to lower standard. I see in you an alternative perspective and still have high opinion for you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Enjoy the metaphor.

    It’s used for the brevity in arguments. It has a definite role to play. It does not lower the standard.

    I have as much love for Ram as you do. [ though a little extra for Lord krishna ]

    manohar_T Reply:

    This argument is without any basis. You do not know your Congress party.

    1) Rahul Gandhi could have been / can be the PM, anytime he wished /wishes. All decks will be cleared by the Congress.
    The congress sycophants do not have to diminish or ridicule Dr. Manmohan Singh.

    2) My personal view is that he will not choose to be the Prime Minister for many many years to come. a) He will wait for an Congress majority on its own and that is not likely to happen anytime soon. 2) He may not aspire to the top job, though he would be the power behind the throne.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But is the issue that UPA cannot get anything passed — is it because of the opposition or because of people like Mamta and other coalition partners? Is the inconsistent messaging self induced ? I agree BJP is not behaving like a good opposition; actually their behaviour is worse than congress – but that does not cause harm other than in the wonderful functioning of the supreme parliament …

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  • Anonymous

    @ Pathak Sahab

    I will only certify a balance sheet which says that Sonia cannot make an ex temp-ore speech as she does not have facts at her fingertips.

    Furthermore Rahul cannot face the press as he would not know the GNP of India or the capital of Bangladesh.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sad you have not seen her in HT leadership summit. She was impressive without any support that you love to tell the world.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ht is her own paper. I am sure they would have hidden some tablet for her to read from directly! No, Sonia is here becasue of sentiments. This time she will surely lose elections in Amethi

    No, I don’t think your word carries conviction. Please show us links on say Rahul doing some job– even the most humble of it– as all jobs have dignity of labour and then proving that that by his work he now qualifies to run India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    i think i will wait for answer for this … for very very long

    Anonymous Reply:

    Blame it on the Friday night parties, not your poser.

    For your information, Sonia has done many interviews on the spot during these events and without any prepared speech. She has surprised onlookers like us with her cool composure and measured replies. I must say she has been more impressive than many seasoned indian-born politicians while dealing with real politic of the country.

    Rahul does the same job that Advani has been doing for years. Rahul led the congress campaign in 2009 while Advani was putting his do or die effort to be the PM. Both of them travelled more than 8500km. Rahul travelled a little more.

  • Anonymous

    Pathak, Borrowing time from my crisis ridden schedule for this post…. Saw you post somewhere in past pages where you alluded Team Anna being responsible for the policy paralysis plaguing current administration – resuling in lowered growth. Please correct me if I am wrong here in reading your post here. Secondly, and more importantly, may I please request any credible anecdotes or statsitics that you may have at yourdisposal to lend credentials for such a statement. Full disclosure here – yours truly happens to be a “pucca” anti-Anna person. Actually , one with a somewhat leftist leaning. p.s. for Vinoo : A humble advice pal. See if your “Forensic Accounting” can move beyond personal anecdotes amounting to “I met and saw yada yada yada in year yada yada yada” types. A good starting point would be missed warnings of financial gains / losses for IDBI during Enron days.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Maheshji

    On a general public interest blog site it may not be prudent for me to get in boring data sheets. I would end up singing a song… which nobody would like too much.

    There is a classic accounting and legal base for forensic accounting, This is called “lifting the corporate veil.” In simpler terms, it is venturing behind the facade of the company and probing what and who are responsible for decisions and who if any are in public service.

    If I were to go by publicly accessible data and what one hears in corporate circles, many of the recent big decisions are directly benefiting powers to be at a personal level. I am a worshiper of free markets and crony capitalism which has taken roots in India, is a catastrophe which stunts human potential and economic growth.

    If my anecdotal references to chance meeting with Rajiv and Indira have casued you personal pain, I profusely apologize.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A good starting point for understanding the enron fiasco would be
    a) Did we factor in all possible input costs in a manner, enron was factoring?
    b) The more or less cost plus factoring was skewed as the Indian side was wanting to squeeze the lemon at all stages. Through custom duties, excise and … possible kickbacks.
    c) Furthermore, social responisbility pushed onto to enron by Thakrey for example just made Enron inbuilt it into the power cost. So did the delays. They were calcuating interest costs from day one. India was taking it to be another project which could be delayed with no serious price changes.
    d) Did the Indian state publicly state the final power costs with variable input fuel costs and at various plant load factors? This would be my touchstone fro such a project.
    I think I will leave it at this!! As I said on a public blog site this may not be of major general interest.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    “I think I will leave it at this!! As I said on a public blog site this may not be of major general interest”.

    Says who?

    Let us have the ‘boring’ details with your analysis.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When Anna started this movement, the intensity was felt on the very third day. That’s the time the economic impact was discussed on this blog itself. It was discussed about the possible policy paralysis and impact in a few weeks.

    I am yet to collect and tabulate the data. But if you start observing the economic data ” after a quarter ” you will see the decline.

    What fear did it raise ?

    1) That it would get escalated to a nationwide unrest, leading to periodic violence.
    2) The Govt. may not be in a position to perform
    3) The Govt can not take major decision
    4) The Lokpal bill may come into effect immediately creating an uncertainty in the policy implementation.
    5) If the Lokpal bill comes to effect immediately, major decisions may get delayed as the bureaucracy and the political class would hesitate to take decision.
    6) The 2G uncertainty created a fear psychosis. Can any large investment be termed as a scam?
    7) Everybody, except Vijay, knew Rs. 1,76 Lakh crore 2G scam was ridiculous. But if it can be played to such a high level that even the court could be swayed to give once-a-day comment, then the environment wasn’t condutive for any fresh investment.

    It was rhetoric and more rhetoric and heady mix of seeming patriotism created a very uncertain time.

    Perhaps it wouldn’t have created such a fear in investors but for its long duration. There was no probable end to that unrest. It would still be on such steroid, f the present Team Anna activities were happening in Delhi than in Maharashtra or UP. Delhi gets maximum eyeballs all over the World. Team Anna’s Delhi siege did the trick.

    The constant threat to the Govt on daily basis created a situation when the World feared to business with Indian Govt. Because they were not sure if the Govt would last.

    It consumed precious 2 years in this particular term.

    We must pay. We must be aware of the price of our own action.

    We must enjoy Team Anna’s eighty lakh production.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    As I said yesterday that I appreciate your consistency. Congress can do no wrong. There is always someone else who is at fault for all the
    mess.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You look at the plane not taking off.
    I look at the punctured tyre.

    -
    You are impatient for getting late.
    I am patiently waiting for the tyre to get fixed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please wait for few more decades.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I understand your impatience. You want your country to fly high like all of us. There are things to be done before we fly high. Sometimes even one needs to bear the impact of a sabotage.

    Anonymous Reply:

    We take a close look at the torn tube inside.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Just don’t play with the torn ligaments.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    more than Anna Hazare doing any harm to the investment environment, it was the ministers caught with their pants down and hands in the till.

    When the world realised that the Bureaucracy and the ruling combine have jointly begun looting the nation, the investors became jittery and began withdrawing their liquid investments.

    The pro-Naxalite, anti-Industrialisation, pro-human rightists lobbies too have done enough damage to India’s capacity to host industries with favourable environment for development.

    Ask Jairam Ramesh.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    as usual, you have written so much without saying anything.

    You asked Pathakji to tell you whether you are right or wrong, but have not made your point. I don’t blame Pathakji if he is awaiting a further installment of your statement giving us a glimpse of what you have to say on Anna and his team and whether they are responsible for the paralysis in the government as Pathakji has gone to great lengths to discover.,

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  • Anonymous

    Gnight friends ! With your family out for vacation in this summer heat… it is indeed engrossing to blog !

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  • Anonymous

    Mahesh, taking it from where you left.ENRON.The story is pretty simple really.INDIA GOVT GUARANTEED A 20% RETURN. This was just after it had mortgaged 150 tons of gold with Bank of England.Such was the desperation to attract foreign investment(read foreign exchange).But as it was liquified gas based plant ,the gas price was subject to vagaries of demand and supply in the international market.But the reason why Enron folded globally was because of FALSE ACCOUNTING with connivance with the auditors .Ditto with MCI the 10 billion dollar telecom giant .It is interesting to note that CEO of both companies HAD STRONG RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION.tHE ceo OF ENRON Richard Lay was a former priest in a church , the other was a practising christian.
    As for india , THE VODAFONE affair has cast a long shadow. and it sent a very very negative signal.You can change the law , but not retrospectively from 1963, that smacks of vindictiveness.
    Also because rupee is pegged to dollar , it is in such a free fall. DOLLAR IS ONLY SAFE CURRENCY given the uncertainty surrounding Euro.
    GENERALLY INDIAN INDUSTRY IS ****. There is no innovation ,(bar pharma) only way they compete is through low wages.
    INDIA NEEDS RADICAL OVERHAUL OF 1, EDUCATION SYSTEM , with compulsory universal law enforced education till age 17.2. AGRICULTURE TO SHIFT GEAR AND MOVE TO INDUSTRIAL SCALE FARMING WITH TOTAL MECHANISATION.3. FDI IN RETAIL , BANKING AND WHATEVER ELSE.
    Apparently NREGA has caused such a shortage of agricultural labour in WB , farmers are using COMBINED HARVESTER , a small revolution on the way
    The BIDHARVA farmers plight is TOTALLY DUE WATER BEING DIVERTED TO POWER PLANTS AND LANDS APPROPRIATED FOR THE SAME.
    Again industrial scale farming and moving all the surplus labour to other forms of employment , such as food processing , road building (NREGA in short) , house building is the answer.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shan;
    I have started to appreciate you.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pranab’s retroactive tax laws is so un-Pranab like. It was just an out of blue bolt. But surprisingly BJP is in total agreement with him. Sometimes I wonder is $2B a such a big amoutnt to risk country’s FDI? Did Pranab fall for a trap set by others?

    Anyway I believe he has delayed the implementation.

    There are innovations in other industries too. The pharma industry is visible because it handles few big ticket outsourced projects and entrepreneural push in generic medicines, particularly in export market.

    Land holding pattern in India is a major bottleneck for industril scale farming.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Pathak sahab

    You can really get the BJP in everything, So Pranab da creates a law which destroys the India stroy… and the BJP is responsible for it?

    I think this is the sort of lies which drives people away from the Congress…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    For a forensic accountant, you surprisingly tend to miss out a lot of ” related news”. Perhaps you are too engrossed on Congress, ignoring the related events.

    Yaswant Sinha, the head finance committee supported Pranab’s announcement too eagerly and too soon as if it was a co-venture.

    Time you took 360 degree views as a forensic accountant, before forming any opinion.

    Repeat 360 degree views.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    You are right that it is the fault of BJP that they did not oppose the

    retroactive tax act. If they had even little sense of economics than
    they would have opposed and our FM Pranab Da would not have
    brought in this law and I am sure India would have been shining again.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,

    The points you have advocated for the betterment of our country are very
    good, but there is a vey small problem with that. If adopted than India will
    start improving which goes against the policy of our government.

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  • Anonymous

    A formula for all my married friends to have a great life.
    ‘ Love one another’
    If this does not work then, put the last word in the middle.

    Good morning friends.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    ;-) ;-)

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Bihar is country’s fastest growing state at 13.1%

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Bihar-is-countrys-fastest-growing-state-at-13-1/articleshow/13711796.cms

    Bihar, which was synonymous with poverty, has emerged as the fastest growing state for the second year running, clocking a scorching 13.1% growth in 2011-12. Not just that, on the back of four years of double-digit growth, its economy is now bigger than that of Punjab—until recently the preferred destination of Bihari migrant workers.

    Among the top five states, Bihar is followed by Delhi and Puducherry. Mineral-rich Chhattisgarh, which many had written off for the violent Naxal movement, and Goa complete the top five growth listings, according to data available with the ministry of statistics.

    ==

    In fact, Tamil Nadu beat Uttar Pradesh as the second largest state economy, after Maharashtra. UP’s economy was estimated to be worth Rs 4.19 lakh crore in 2011-12, while Maharashtra, for which data is unavailable, is expected to retain its number one slot given that its economy was worth over Rs 7 lakh crore in 2010-11. In recent years, Maharashtra has lost out on investment to states such as Gujarat and Tamil Nadu and growth has slowed.

    ==

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    Anonymous Reply:

    which proves only non congress states do well. Delhi being capital of India gets extra funds… say cwg, T3, metro. Cant compare it to other states.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    … proves only non congress states do ….

    Not so fast. You have been over enthusiastic to jump and claim victory and make it (like everything else) into anti-congress this and that).

    For example, in case of Goa, the BJP has just won the elections recently and the figures relate to the period when the Congress was in power. Therefore it has nothing to do with which party is in power. Forensic accounting and analysis is in need of a 360 degree view.

    It probably must be discomforting for you to know Maharashtra (a Congress ruled except for that 5 years in the 90s) is way ahead of the pack.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Recovering Budhni Mejhan from the silted landscape of modern India

    It’s important that the Santhali worker who inaugurated one of Nehru’s temples of modern India is resurrected in the national memory. She is a reminder that this land can be separated from its people only with tragic consequences.

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/article3480638.ece?homepage=true

    Excerpts

    The teachers’ orientation trip included predictable destinations such as Kanpur, Allahabad, Lucknow, Banaras, Ayodhya, Sarnath, Kolkata and Gwalior which conjured old, civilisational trails of history, culture, commerce and faith.

    But some other halts pointed to a new map, a new trail of faith: a dam of the Damodar Valley Corporation (DVC) projected to transform the face of eastern India — then in Bihar, now in Jharkhand; the Chittaranjan locomotive works in West Bengal; a cement refractory plant in Katni and the limestone mines in Satna, both in Madhya Pradesh — all adding up to an image of nation-building through Nehru’s temples of modern India in the young schoolteacher’s mind.

    ==

    After his own fashion, Nehru had insisted that 15-year-old Budhni Mejhan, a worker on the site, press the button at the power station to signal the start of operations. Many search words later, I found a tiny photograph of this occasion sourced to the Nehru Memorial Museum and Library (NMML) in Delhi. The mustiness of time had not managed to quell the palpable excitement of the moment in that blackened, indistinct image; it showed the teenager pressing the button, flanked by a broadly smiling Nehru and others.

    However, when Budhni returned to her village, Karbona, the village elders told her that by garlanding Nehru at the function she had in effect married him. Since the Prime Minister was not a Santhal, she was no longer a part of the community. She was told to leave the village. The inflexibility of the community ensured that the excommunication was complete.

    The youngster was given shelter by a resident of Panchet, Sudhir Dutta, from whom it was said she had a daughter, born to a destiny of exile like her mother. In 1962, Budhni was fired from her job at DVC and reduced to doing odd jobs.

    In the 1980s, she travelled to Delhi. She met the then Prime Minister, Rajiv Gandhi, grandson of the Prime Minister she had garlanded, with a request: she wanted to be reinstated at DVC.

    ==

    There was a measure of solemnity with which we committed these names to memory: Sindri (fertiliser), Pimpri (penicillin), Chittaranjan (locomotive), Perambur (coach factory); Rourkela, Bhilai (steel); Bhakra Nangal, Hirakud, Damodar Valley, Kosi, Tungabhadra, Koel Karo, Sardar Sarovar (multipurpose projects and dams); Ankleswar (petroleum); Narora (heavy water), Tarapur (atomic power plant)… so they went.

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  • Anonymous

    Manohar & Friends,

    Any comment on Sibal vs IIT Alumni controversy?

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    manohar_T Reply:

    I do not know the reasons the IIT’s faculty and the alumni opposing one single exam. I suspect it is to retain the exclusivity of IITs – fair enough. We will know the reasons. when they will file the PILs.

    My take.

    1) There should be one single exam for the students – why should they rush from one city to another and sit for multiple exams and spending a lot of money?

    2) I am all in favour of giving weightage to HSC (12th standards) examinations.Students tend to neglect their regular studies and join numerous coaching classes with the sole aim of cracking the entrance test – all round development and learning be damned. Education is not one IIT entrance test. We do not need uni-dimensional people either.

    ==

    There is another major cause for worry (not exactly related to the above). There has been gradual disinterest in studies – Sciences and Arts, thus drying up talented pool for basic research. Without it, the country/society suffers.

    How to reverse this trend? Currently I do not have any answers. Does anyone else can suggest measures?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sibal has been pitching for this single exam system for last 4-5 years. The IIT panel always raises objection at the last moment. They never come up with a solution.

    Now it will take a political colour. People would say Sibal is hurrying up before 2014 election.

    ===

    We must raise the salary of educationists and scientists.

    A 50 lakh package for a good scientist will help families encourage children to take up basic research.

    You must have noticed the intake in Management or engineering colleges depends on the last campus recruitment.

    Today admissions are as sensitive as the stock market. The Govt needs to recognise this and make a small tweak. The media will take it up and the magic can happen.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think the IITs have been taken over by a hostile Hindu pro-India faculty. Or else, Kapil Sibal is the blue eyed boy of the academicia and it is inconceivable that any faculty would be so cut up as to file a PIL in the Supreme Court.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Waiting for Anna to give his verdict.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Anna has already given his verdict that he doesn’t trust the Prime Minister.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am waiting for his verdict how the entrance exam for IIT should be conducted.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Honestly, IITs should be allowed to retain their exclusivity and primacy in the technical educational institutions. Any effort to dilute the present status is sure to meet with fierce opposition from the faculty, students and parents.

    Anonymous Reply:

    They surely can maintain the exclusivity.There are ways.

    Think for a moment, students start taking coaching in class 9th itself. They neglect the school. They really don’t care about school performance. This has led to a huge coaching business.

    Then students run around for various entrance examinations.

    If IIT panel thinks the school course is not good enough, then they must pitch in their suggestions with CBSE and help improve the course content.

    The fact is that IIT does not have a question bank. They live on year to year basis. In the new pattern, they need to create a large Question bank for the online test. That these professors are trying to avoid.

    Also sometimes the whole process of selection is scandalous. The RTI has revealed arbitrary processes in cut off. People with very low cut-off mark have managed to get in.

    There is no question of dilution. IITians need to define the standard and process. The test can take care once the logic is defined. The proposed single exam has provision for an advance examination for the top 50,000 students.

    I am sure there are ways to address the exclusivity than closing our eyes to the problems parents, students face due to multiple exams. And that issue is much much bigger.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    in all sincerity, I would raise my hand for a system that would lay a level playing field for all strata of our Indian society, reduce the burden on the parents and students both time wise and money wise.

    But I also believe, honestly, that Kapil Sibal is not the man for this. He lost the government huge chunks of public sympathy by his abrasive handling of the corruption cases, topping it with farcical statement that there was zero loss to the government in the 2G scam. He also led MMS by the nose into huge embarrassments on several issues which could have been handled by another man with common sense and better grasp of things.

    Anonymous Reply:

    He is the right guy. He has handled the ministry well.
    BTW, he is the one who is going to play Pranab’s role in future.

    Anonymous Reply:

    he is the right guy for certain wrong kind of people.
    His internet gestapo tactics have badly boomeranged, as were his 2G capers. He couldn’t get a single bill passed in the Rajyasabha in all these months. Still you say, he is the right kind.

    When Pranab finishes with what he is doing, there will be hardly anything left for Sibal to do.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Don’t you have anything better to do than attempting to trivialise a debate day in and day out?

    What a stupid query on my part, knowing the huge deficit in your intelligence and disoriented pea-sized brain.

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  • Anonymous

    Vinoo,

    you said, “Furthermore Rahul cannot face the press as he would not know the GNP of India or the capital of Bangladesh.”

    There is a joke going: Rahul, the next prime minister of India was sipping his beer in a Cicilian bar, when a beautiful girl walked in. Instantly Rahul got up and began moving towards her, but the bar-maid (?) said, confidentially, “no use, mate, she is a lesbian”. But, undeterred, Rahul went to her and greeted her, ” Hi, I am Rahul, the future Prime Minister of India. I hope you have heard of India. I am a keen student of world affairs and I like to know more about your country, Lesbia. What did you say the capital of Lesbia was?”

    She replied, “till now, I didn’t say anything. BUt now I want to say this: if you are the prime minister the Indians are going to have, neither Lesbia, nor Gay-ana can save them”.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Even the members of Congress know this very well what this lady told
    our Brahmin Yuvraj. But the job of chmchas is to do chmchagiri , they will
    never speak out the truth.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A gora, half Europian, Brahmin Prime Minister! What more could the bloody Indians want!! This seems to be the thinking in the congress party.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like you visit lesbea dot com too often !!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Saab
    Sicilian bar maids are really concerned about Rahul Gandhi.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Got it wrong even in Shenoy’s story.
    The girl was worried about your country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Did I get it wrong ?
    Instantly Rahul got up and began moving towards her, but the bar-maid (?) said, confidentially, “no use, mate, she is a lesbian”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    No. You got the story right.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But why do Sicilian bar maids go out of there way to care for Rahul Gandhi ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Because you were the worse choice.

  • Anonymous

    @ Shenoy

    Lovely story ! The boys in office are circulating it around and enjoying it.

    Let me add a true *** bit.

    Doing a job in an International accouting firm gets you certain prievelges. That is counting on your counterparts in different parts of the world to entertain you or bail you out in case you are there in their city. In my brief stay in Italy–on mostly work– the guys out there were nice, but a brown was a brown for them.

    During lunch, one Indian jocularly suggested that since that since Sonia was now tipped to be the PM and almost the most powerfull lady in India, Italians to further indo-italian cooperation could nominate some Indians in high positions– maybe the PM or at least the head of the division…

    Well, what was meant to be a joke– fell flat ! Embarassed silence all around…
    How could a brown, a third worlder open his mouth so much? !

    Giavvoni (name changed) sitting in front of us almost swalloed the full plate of spaghetti at one go !!

    So that is why I am surprised and saddened when even intelligent people are willing to ascribe some mysterious power to sonia, believe her to be a white goddess. In case her name was Sonia and had she been from Taiwan or Nigeria, the same people would have passed snide , angry rotten comments.

    Rahul in contrast being Indian by birth has full right to be the PM. But Sonia…?

    C’mon Indians. grow up. Dont trash your nation becasue fo your own brown man complex or some personal benefiet you may be getting.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sonia delivered. Advani couldn’t.
    Why can’t a forensic accountant figure this out ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rabri devi aso delivered in Bihar… till people saw her game thru. I think we need to move away from fantsy for charisma to actual ability.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If you equate Rabri’s delivery with Sonia’s, then your forensic audit ability is not good enough. You can drop that pretense and just play as a party affiliate.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,
    talking about pretenses, nobody can beat you at this game of pretenses.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You can never add an iota of forensic accounting. You don’t have what it takes. So don’t grunt. Let the professional handle it himself.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Bihari workers in our office– many of them not very literate– had teh same fascination for Rabri Devi as Congressmen have for Sonia. She is “fair”, is the wife of their hero and wants to pass on Bihar to her son– much like Sonia.
    Rabri’s husband is accused of corruption and so was Sonia’s
    Can you tell me where is the difference?
    I think you should change the prism of refernce.

    Anonymous Reply:

    There is a big difference though.

    Rabri Devi is illiterate and never claimed that she has passed SSLC.

    Sonia Maino is semi-literate, but till Subramanya Swamy burst the bubble, she claimed to be a graduate from Cambridge.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Rabri also could talk to the press and even claim fame to ruling before she lead Bhar to a bigger disaster than Lalu.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Your explanation is not adding the “rigour” that your professional calibre was supposed to bring in.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Only women can deliver, Advani is a man.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Advani couldn’t figure that out while watching himself in the mirror and doing five shaves a day.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You have it wrong here. It was SHivraj Patil, who shaved five times a day and changes his safari as per his TV appearances. He was in love with Sonia Gandhi and she too……….

    Anonymous Reply:

    It’s Advani who thought by shaving 5 times a day ( 5 times namaaz) he could look as stern as the Iron man.

    Ahh Clones don’t stand a chance. Never had.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Because he did not stand a chance, they went and tried to ‘import’ the original and went on to desperately ‘claim’ him as exclusively their own – ‘din dahaaDe chori’. Then there is another pretender bragging to be a ‘ChhoTe Sardaar’. chhoTe log chhoTi soch.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Great!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi, Mohan,

    there is one particularly gentle soul in the congress who can neither deliver nor man enough.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, let us not go there…
    I hope he is seedha sadha and not stealing…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Yes he is seedh sadha himself but despite having power he
    is not doing anything to stop others from stealing.

    Anonymous Reply:

    One gentle soul everybody knew could never have delivered …..finally ended up in oil massage habits hoping…..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sonia delivered, a boy and a girl.
    Advani couldn’t because he doesn’t have what it takes to deliver.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Really gr8!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nice. A terrific Forensic accounting analysis. Reflects your experience in the field.

  • Anonymous

    A little boy got on the bus, sat next to a man reading a book, and
    noticed he had his collar on backwards.

    The little boy asked why he wore his collar backwards.

    The man, who was a priest, said ‘I am a Father.’

    The little boy replied ‘My Dad doesn’t wear his collar like that.’

    The priest looked up from his book and answered ‘I am the Father of many.’

    The boy said ‘My Dad has 4 boys, 4 girls and two grandchildren and he
    doesn’t wear his collar that way’

    The priest, getting impatient, said ‘I am the Father of hundreds’ and
    went back to reading his book.

    The little boy sat quietly thinking for a while, then leaned over and said,

    ‘Maybe you should use a condom and wear your pants backwards instead
    of your collar

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    good one Mohan..
    well, the secularists will come after you now … the anti cartoonists..and may be even rajmata

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  • Anonymous

    Ex President of Egypt, General Mubarak is sentenced for life imprisonment.

    Here in Haryana, Ruchika family has withdrawn all the cases against the ex DGP Rathore — because they do not have money and time to match Rathore and the powerful’s shenanigans.
    Ruchika, a minor, was raped by the DGP.
    Rathore’s dharampatni is a prominent lawyer.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    In Kalyuga Adharma is more powerful than Dharma. A common man in our country despite being right cannot fight with mighty and powerful for long.

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  • Anonymous

    BVS

    Liked your note about Rahul’s desire to visit Lesbea.

    George Bush wanted to visit Malaria on his south east asean tour.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The pity is that the entire congress family has invested heavily in Rahul Gandhi coming true. Their dream of seeing Sonia becoming the PM has already soured. Now they are just waiting, open mouthed. for MMS to move aside.

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  • Anonymous

    any news on Vijay?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Where is Vijay ? Should be the new blog!

    You have talked sense about people hardening their stance on everything.

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  • Anonymous

    MMS talked about the growing intolerance among us..
    I do agree with him.
    However, it looks like a worldwide phenomenon, and not an India specific.

    People in different nations, even people within nations have become less alike in as may ways as they have become more alike.

    Transportation, communication etchnologies, “one world” organizations (like UN0 ) has not brought us together. As communication technology become more global, peoples tastes have become more parochial.

    Even without the currency problems, the so called European union never occurred. Only 2 % of Europeans live in a different European nation than their country of birth/citizenship. The Euro crisis is more than a crisis of debt. Europeans with one set of values and habits do not want to bail out Europeans with other habits and values.

    The Patriarch of Russian Orthodox Church in a sense is controlling the Communist Russia! Who would have thought this will happen in Russia.. he is advising Putin not to help the opposition groups in Syria – for the fear that however brutal Assad may be, his fall will unleash extreme violence against the Christian minority. Russia of yester-years didnt care a hoot for religion. Today, a big part of Putin’s legitimacy relies on the Patriarch’s support.

    The Indian scenario is very similar to what is happening in the West. States want a lot more independence. Political parties do not want to work together. For the first time, many are openly against government giveaways. At the same time many want to keep the giveaways only to themselves.

    The challenge for us is how to keep the segmentation in control — to have leaders to govern amid divergence (of not mere languages or religion)

    In 1949, The famous philosopher Niebuhr questioned the naive belief that history drives toward unity. He cited the Book of Psalms: “He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.”

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Count us out if Narendra Modi is PM candidate: JD(U) to BJP

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/count-us-out-if-narendra-modi-is-pm-candidate-jdu-to-bjp/articleshow/13715478.cms

    The Janata Dal (United) has sent out a terse warning to the Bharatiya Janata Party that it will be forced to part ways if the latter chooses Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi as its next prime ministerial candidate.

    A senior leader, who did not wish to be named, told ET that the Janata
    Dal (United) has told its alliance partner categorically, “Count us out
    if the election is held under Modi’s leadership.”

    Days after the Gujarat chief minister forced party president Nitin Gadkari
    to eat humble pie at the party’s national executive meet in Mumbai, JD
    (U) has served a reminder of Modi’s polarising impact across the BJP-led
    National Democratic Alliance.

    ==

    Who’s the leader?

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/whos-the-leader/956728/0

    At the time, the cold and hot wars between individual leaders upstaged
    everything else, but the BJP had come back from its national executive
    meet in Mumbai last month with some gains in the bag. It wasn’t easy but
    a truce had been hammered out between party president Nitin Gadkari and
    sulking Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, laying the ground for a
    general calming of tensions between the party’s central leadership and
    mutinous state leaders. The party had also agreed upon a second
    consecutive term for Gadkari, ensuring continuity till the next general
    election in 2014. In other words, it had seemed that the BJP had won
    itself some space to target the government, instead of only obsessing
    about itself.

    ==

    BJP leader Jaswant Singh now bats for an NDA PM
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/BJP-leader-Jaswant-Singh-now-bats-for-an-NDA-PM/articleshow/13724357.cms
    Veteran BJP leader Jaswant Singh
    has said the National Democratic Alliance’s prime ministerial candidate
    for the next elections should be selected by all partners, and that the
    party has to shake off its sectarian and non-inclusive image.

    “It is clear that while Congress is failing to meet the aspirations of
    the people, as Advaniji (LK Advani) said recently in Mumbai, somehow,
    BJP is unable to rise to the occasion and convince the citizens that it
    is the answer,” said Singh, a close associate of former prime minister
    Atal Bihari Vajpayee, who had handled the finance, external affairs and
    defence portfolios in the NDA government, adding his voice to other
    senior BJP leaders who have called for introspection within the party.

    ==

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BJP has to analyze the 550 or so constituencies — they obviously cannot go alone; they also should not have a partner like Trinmool…keep JDu out If they can win without their 20 seats.
    Jaswant is a good candidate; but his book has made him a persona non grata

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    there is a proverb in Kannada. A man was bitten by an ant and was simultaneously bitten by a snake and the man died. The ant then declared, “I and Naagappa together killed this man”.

    The JDU story is similar to the ant on an All India scene. In Bihar too, it cannot win more than half a dozen seats without the transfer of the BJP votes. The BJP cannot wait for an image make over and wouldn’t know whether the image change over will take it to the seat of power.

    Therefore, for the 2014 elections, they should zero in on Jayalalithaa as PM and take such allies as would like to be led by Jayalalithaa.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS

    You are right. Jd (u) is an ant (all JD variations, and there are 20 or so!).. So, be nice to them, but dont go overboard..

    Jayalalitha will deliver 49 seats of TN. No other party is going to win there this time other than her coalition.

    In fact, positives will accrue if they can project her as Dy PM or HM etc – Country is looking for “doers”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji/Shenoy,

    Jaswant Singh is good choice as a PM. The problems he faced
    because of the book he wrote are internal and can be sorted
    out. Alliance with Jayalaltha will give them a fighting chance
    to get to that magic figure of 273. I personally feel that Modi
    should stay in Gujarat because even if he is given a prominent
    role to place at center it will be very difficult to keep him away from Gujarat. He is obsessed with the progress of this state and
    if he sees anything happening not according to the way he wants
    than he may try to interfere and that will create more rifts in the party.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Jaswant is an articulate and capable guy. I personally would not have bargained with the terrorists who hijacked the flight to Kabul – but it is easy for me to say because I was not in the situation. honour of a country vs lives of few will always be a troubling question.
    Jayalalitha, Chandrababu’s TDP, a strong performance in karnataka should give them 75-80 seats from South. On the surface it looks like they should eb able to obtain 220seats from the rest of the country. But my fear is they will work overtime to give seats to Congress.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I believe it was a strategic mistake for BJP to classify Jagan Reddy’s arrest as Cong vendetta (it may well be true). But the fact is that Jagan and his father stole zillions. Instead of saying it is a vendetta and why Vilasrao and Shinde are not arrested; they should have said the arrest is great, and Deshmukh and Shinde and all like them should be arrested.

    In a way it was stupid – because Gali Janardhan Reddy (mining mafia) is BJP supporter; Jagan is connected with Gali..

    As far as looting is concerned, all these guys are in it together – Cong, BJP, local party..

    Congress and BJP leaders have foot in the mouth disease!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    BJP is used to doing stupid things. I will be surprised if they
    do anything sensible.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Mohan

    Jaswant Singh does not have much support within the BJP and the RSS (this is important). He being asked unceremoniously to leave and then taken back (he obliged) has dented his standing. His importance or rather lack of it can be gauged from the fact as to where his seat is in the Lok Sabha, third or fourth row.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Bihar sends 40 MPs to the parliament. My reading as of now, Nitish Kumar (as part of NDA) can safely guarantee 35 seats to the NDA tally. If it parts ways, then BJP will probably can count single digit number as its tally from Bihar.

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  • Anonymous

    Local TV/papers here in Kerala reported that the Indian students (apparently most of them are from Kerala) are constant victims of racial attack in kiev, ukraine..
    (it seems therer are 1000 plus students — my first reaction was why the fr..k these guys are going to these monkey places for technical education – )

    Sort of relates to the general comment MMS made about intolerance

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    manohar_T Reply:

    They go to places, where entry level standards are lower and perhaps the costs too are lower.

    You are aware of the money one has to shell out in India to private medical colleges/deemed universities in India – they match costs in many western countries.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Half of them end up becoming illegal couriers and indulge in import export business. That’s how they get into conflict with the locals.

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  • Anonymous

    Oil cos claim of making losses untrue: Vayalar Ravi

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Oil-cos-claim-of-making-losses-untrue-Vayalar-Ravi/Article1-865052.aspx

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It is the second UPA/Congress minister out of synch..
    Their leaders should pick a page from biju patnaik – suspend the ones who express public disagreements with the unitary decisions.
    I was pretty impressed how he dealt with Pyaremohan.

    Same thing with Trinamool etc too- MMS should go ahead and implement cabinet agreed stuff (like the railway changes) ..If Mamta etc pull her support off, so be it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It’s Naveen Patnaik, Biju’s son.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    You are right, one should learn from Navin Patnaik – not Biju Patnaik
    that problems should be nipped in bud itself. Allow them to grow and
    they get out of hand.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Have you noticed Naveen , a poet and disinterested politician who lived all his life in Delhi’s page 3 circuit provided strong and positive administration for last 12 years?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Whenever I have seen him on TV answering questions, he
    always is in control of himself, , intelligent and seems
    confident of whatever he is saying. No hi fi stuff, very soft spoken guy.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not sure if you know about Biju Patnaik. He was a legend, though slightly whimsical.

    manohar_T Reply:

    100% agree. Mohan and others should do a bit of reading on him. There have been very few like him.

    manohar_T Reply:

    He and Antony are playing local politics – there are by-elections in Kerala, plus their upbringing has been during India’s socialist era. I can also say, he is unable to read balance sheets. Profitable – precisely because of the subsidies, otherwise by now these oil marketing companies would have been history.

    Others are demanding a complete rollback of the latest hike. Why not demand that petrol be sold at Rs 10 per litre and not at Rs 70 per litre?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am against subsidies… But you seem to want to keep it elsewhere but not in petrol…..am I misreading ??

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Subsidies for the poorest of the poor. Not for the upper crust of the society who have the luxury of owning cars.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ok ..we are in agreement

  • Anonymous

    It’s sad to see BJP can not think of a national leader. For a national party and a major player, it’s really sad to seek out for a regional leader like Jayalalitha to lead them. What will Jayalaltha do to BJP? She would do what she is good at. Make people bow down.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Some people bow down in front of Amma and some in front of Mataji.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Amma makes/forces people bow like Mayawati through her associates.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Amma gets it done.. Mataji and Mayaji do not have a clue…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Your Mataji gets much bigger jobs done.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Here a fond hope is expressed that Jayalalitha will be a key and a helping factor for the NDA. I can only tell them that they do not know her.

    1. The empress of Poes gardens does not play second fiddle.

    2. If she does, then the price that she will extract is enormous. She had no qualms in turning the screws tightly, when the distinguished and respected Atal Behari Vajpayee was the Prime Minister, what to talk of the present BJP leaders. Some months back, she refused to grant audience to L K Advani and Narendra Modi, when they were in Chennai and had sent in a request, clearly indicating as to who calls the shots.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Pathak

    Earlier you wrote

    “A 50 lakh package for a good scientist will help families encourage children to take up basic research”.

    I do not think that is a good idea. Good researchers cannot be motivated by money alone. It is primarily the love of basic sciences and arts, and it perhaps can be inculcated by the parents and teachers. I wonder where the lacunae is?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sounds unethical perhaps. But like IPL, this can find new talents who went for engineering but never became an engineer.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There are several things we have to do – Pathak’s idea of money in the equation is ok because money seems to be the common platform — may be money tied to five innovative ideas …competitions..
    My personal opinion is that “monetization” of education is a bad thing. Aarsha Bharatha was all about learning, seeking and finding the truth, contemplating, philosophizing..
    Tamil Brahmins may be the only group in our country (and to some extent Syrian Christians) who are pursuing science, literature etc from an interest/knowledge perspective. The interesting thing is that many of them end up monetizing that because of the opportunities that come up later.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Correction below

    I think the basic motivator has to be the teacher.

    Let me give you an example (of course it relates to 70s and I do not how far it is true today).

    1) Tata Institute of Fundamental Reasearch (not Bhabha Atomic Research Centre), Bombay used to recruit graduates in various fields of basic sciences. Out of the 30 Mathematics students every year, about 20 to 24 used to be from Loyala College, Madras. Why? They had a brilliant teacher and a mathematician – Father Racine, a French Jesuit, who used to encourage and was able to get bright students to opt for Mathematics as a career. Whether most of the students were Tamil Brahmins may or may not be relevant, he was the motivator par excellence.

    http://gaddeswarup.blogspot.in/2008/09/remembering-fr-racine.html

    I could give you more examples, but the above should suffice to show the point I am making.

    I have absolutely no problem if they monetize their knowledge and skills (and why shouldn’t they?), as long they contribute to their chosen field of study and research.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    A good teacher here and there will make only a few islands.
    General career attraction through a handsome salary will have universal approach and a much faster method to attract people.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    If someone is doing research, because he will have lots of money at the end of every month does not add up (no problem if their take home is above the average, in fact it should be that way). In those days, we did have lots of inspirational teachers all over, not that we produced Nobel Laureates, but their students did make a difference to our lives in their own way via various National Research Laboratories – in spite of the fact many such centres were very bureaucratic in their approach. I have no idea at the present state of affairs.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The lacunae is LACK OF RESEARCH FACILITIES , EQIPMENT , BOOKS , JOURNALS ETC

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  • Anonymous

    Pathak,
    Continuing the discussion on Team Anna, policy paralysis and all that.
    Copy pasting your response here for convenience…. Please feel free to point out if you feel I am quoting you out context.
    You said :
    “1) That it would get escalated to a nationwide unrest, leading to periodic violence.
    2) The Govt. may not be in a position to perform
    3) The Govt can not take major decision
    4) The Lokpal bill may come into effect immediately creating an uncertainty in the policy implementation.
    5) If the Lokpal bill comes to effect immediately, major decisions may get delayed as the bureaucracy and the political class would hesitate to take decision.
    6) The 2G uncertainty created a fear psychosis. Can any large investment be termed as a scam?
    7) Everybody, except Vijay, knew Rs. 1,76 Lakh crore 2G scam was ridiculous. But if it can be played to such a high level that even the court could be swayed to give once-a-day comment, then the environment wasn’t condutive for any fresh investment.”
    Actually , I see things other way. The so called “movement” was never broad-based. This was clear from the first week itself. If anything, the centralisation of power within the Team Anna group did hint at hypocrisy (especially when it tried to lean towards BJP) and something bordering on fascism.
    Secondly, team Anna has time and again either side-stepped or totally avoided the topic of policy discussions in democratic setup. Nothing on policy making here too.
    Third, policy making and its effects have a definite cycle time. Looking at the time-lines and ephemeral nature of Team Anna movement, things don’t just add up.
    Fourth, the lowered growth may have more to do with scores of factors including International scenario and drying liquidity / investments, increasing dollar cost etc. A bigger underlying question here is – what is the wiggle space we have ? At one end the government is going to be under pressure to lower its deficit (which, BTW is not at all at alarming level). Add to it the lowered revenue for government . Perhaps somewhere in the recent past we were not prudent enough in taxing enough when the “investment climate” was rich. That the investment is not happening is because there is large capacity glut in almost every sector world over (and co-relatedly in India as well) . Team Anna figures nowhere here.
    p.s. for Shenoy : About Jairam Ramesh…. If you are referring to his decision on Monsanto, it was quite prudent. World over , Monsanto has shown mixed bag of results . Plus Food security was not exactly an issue as well. So, it was only reasonable to be cautious . What was so extreme leftist about this decision ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    After settling down, UPA2 was about to take a few big decision, when 2G scam and shameless CWG thing happened. The Govt. went backfoot. But nothing like the fear of “Lokpal in 3 days”.

    That a PM of a country could be abused so openly created a feeling all over that “something-has-happened-that-we-don’t-know” kind of feeling. This itself put everything on a cautious note. Then “if -it-has-continued-for-months, then-there-must-be-something” feeling put many decisions on the back burner. The international investors live on Quarter to Quarter basis. They surely can’t wait for India to recover. They move on.

    I am not discounting the external factors. But India lost its own booty that was earmarked by the investors. This has cascading effect. Investors are are typically well networked. So both good and bad things happen quickly.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If only Anna had not started his anti corruption campaign than BSE would have been at 20000 instead of at 16000 and Rupee would
    have been at 45 to a Dollar instead of 55. India would have been shining, GDP would have been in double figure. There would have been no scams because Anna through his ignorance pressured our honest poor politicians to loot the country. The situation we are
    in is only because of that ignorant, stupid, foolish former truck driver.
    Pathak Saab, I agree with you.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan-

    Excellent!
    I have been reading up analyses by US experts/business press in my travel here. They all talk about the paralysis, missed opportunities, rampant corruption, government expenditures…the list goes on – Anna was not on the list!

    Anonymous Reply:

    I invite you to do a few things.
    Start reliving/reconstructing the Anna movement from the day one. Take a piece of paper, start marking Day 1, Day 2, Day 3 and record the events with video footages and the impact of it on the Governance, till the Mumbai event. Also include the action/reactions/preoccupation of all the Ministers including your Finance minister.
    Also make a column giving 100% strength to your sarcasm and keep reducing if you think the situation detoriated with every passing day. The index must reduce with index of non-governance during that period.
    Analyse for your benefit and share with us. Let’s see how far your sarcasm takes you on this journey. And yes please use your foreign exchange banking experience while relating the economic events with the exogenous factors.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Did Anna told them to stop passing the bills in parliament.?
    Did Anna told them to stop working and start digging in the past of
    all team Anna members and keep on maligning them in media.?
    We had witnessed the drama of Lokpal bill passing
    when our honorable MPs worked till midnight to pass the bill.
    Did Anna ever tell them that they should not work extra hours
    on other days because many bills were pending to be passed?
    My humble question is did Anna told them to stop working?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I can answer all your posers, but I want you to go through the process and relive before discussing the reality show any further.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Remember that famous dialogue from Deewar where Shashi Kapoor tells Amitabh Bachchn – it does not fits in properly but at the moment I can come up with this one only – ‘ doosron ke
    paap ginane se tumhare apne paap kam nahin ho jayenge’.
    And yes, regarding my foreign exchange experience, if I start calculating now the losses I have incurred on my investments in India than my wife who is sitting beside me will be worried and
    alarmingly will ask me ‘ why are you crying’?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I blame the govt for not treating this movement as a political one and treating the Team Anna as one of us.

    In initial days, it fed the milk to this group. So let them bear the bite.

    manohar_T Reply:

    The problem was compounded by inept handling by the Government. They should have just not given any importance to it. Perhaps, it was the first time, one learns from mistakes. Today, the Government is not taking them seriously (the fault lies with Team Anna) and in fact hits back at them.

    Interestingly, the BJP is still playing footsie with them even today.

    ==

    1) Now Anna sings team song: ‘No faith in Prime Minister’
    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/now-anna-sings-team-song-no-faith-in-prime-minister/956925/0

    2) On fast eve, Ramdev says PM integrity above board
    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/on-fast-eve-ramdev-says-pm-integrity-above-board/956928/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Trust me I blame the Govt, not the Team Anna.

    Like many, the govt also got fooled by the seeming innocence of Anna and fell into a trap. The whole thing was political and it needed a political response as Digvijay had openly said from the day one. The govt got trapped for its naivety and paid for it. I definitely do not have sympathy for this govt for allowing the country stay standstill because they wanted to be known as nice people. The devious attempts to discredit the govt must be treated with ruthlessness. If these people do not have stomach for this, then they must allow the real politicians to run the country. We do not want nice and gutless people to run this country.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ‘ they wanted to be known as nice people ‘
    These nice peope sent police at midnight to Ramlila ground
    to lathi charge sleeping people where one innocent lady died.
    Now even team Anna has realised that their agitation stops
    work that is why today’s campaign they have kept on Sunday and when parliament is not in session.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ramdev had a written agreement with the govt for a token fast as a face saving measure, but he got into usual rhetoric after reaching there. The video clearly showed that the supporters were throwing stones from the stage. All these stones were stored under the stage. Instead of pacifying the crowd, he did a salwar kameez vanishing act ( Swami Balakrishnan must have loved his this salwar kameez avatar).

    Anna did the Sunday act for the crowd. His fasting was for the camera. Whenever there was no crowd, he just vanished into the background instead of continuing with his fasting.

    Like you are good with jokes, Shenoy with poems, Anna is good with his fasting. He has practiced his fasting well like my old grand mother.

    It’s like Sachin saying ” if you don’t do this thing, then I will play cricket for one more hour!”

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Sachin ko beech mein mat lao. He has made India proud,
    not Mohan and Shenoy.

  • Anonymous

    Vinoo,
    Enron …..
    You said :
    “a) Did we factor in all possible input costs in a manner, enron was factoring?
    b) The more or less cost plus factoring was skewed as the Indian side was wanting to squeeze the lemon at all stages. Through custom duties, excise and … possible kickbacks.
    c) Furthermore, social responisbility pushed onto to enron by Thakrey for example just made Enron inbuilt it into the power cost. So did the delays. They were calcuating interest costs from day one. India was taking it to be another project which could be delayed with no serious price changes.
    d) Did the Indian state publicly state the final power costs with variable input fuel costs and at various plant load factors? This would be my touchstone fro such a project. ”
    Let me re-phrase my earlier question. How could IDBI miss warnings in Enron episode ?
    Secondly, did we miss the Counter- guaranteeing by Jaswant Singh in the thirteen days period when the govrnment had not even won the vote of confidence ? Surely, somebody was in great hurry here.
    Third, are you seriously arguing the “social responsibility” measures added significantly to the costs ? Can you quantify this ?
    p.s.: On your second response to me ….. why should I be hurt whom you wine and dine with or flaunt the company you are with. My point was about your anecdotes and ,just those. Surely, a good accountant could do much better, right ?

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    manohar_T Reply:

    I had requested him for his analysis with all the ‘boring’ details and figures. He is not obliging.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    We are small men
    Gopalkrishna Gandhi

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/GopalkrishnaGandhi/We-are-small-men/Article1-864649.aspx

    June 3, tomorrow, is a dull date.

    It is meant to come and go without stamps being released, statues being
    garlanded, the garlanders being photographed. But that is because we are
    getting out of touch with our history, even recent history. It was on this date, 65 years ago,that Governor General Mountbatten brought forward the earlier plan of transferring power from the proposed date of June 1948 and persuaded Pandit Nehru to broadcast to the nation on the evening of that June 3.

    “We are little men,” he said, “serving a great cause but because the cause is great something of that greatness falls upon us also.”

    Listening to the broadcast was the tough soldier Ismay, Chief of Staff to Lord Mountbatten in India. Ismay listened rapt as Nehru went on: “Mighty forces are at work in the world today and in India, and I have no doubt we are ushering in a period of greatness for India.”

    The future prime minister then went on to ask his compatriots to ready themselves for a new beginning.

    Next day, Ismay drew pen and paper and wrote to Nehru: “I must beg leave to send you my warmest congratulations on your splendid broadcast last night. It was, if I may say so, brave, generous and deeply moving… I particularly liked… ‘small men’ and ‘big causes’. It is so exactly describes the feeling that I have entertained about my own unworthy self ever since I undertook my task. Believe me in gratitude, Yours very sincerely, Ismay.”

    ==

    And so, June 3 to June 3, let us admit that we remain, as we were in Nehru’s time, small men. Alas, unlike then, we see no great opportunities fall upon us, only great opportunisms.

    ==

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    UGC defers plan to allow entry of foreign varsities

    Aarti Dhar

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article3483922.ece

    The University Grants Commission (UGC) on Saturday deferred a controversial proposal to allow the entry of foreign educational institutions within the existing legal framework. However, it gave ‘in principle approval’ to regulations on collaborative and joint courses.

    ‘The Foreign Educational Institutions (Regulation of Entry and Operations) Bill 2010,’ is pending in Parliament as several parties are opposed to ome of the provisions which would allow foreign universities to operate in India. The Parliamentary Standing Committee has made several recommendations to the Bill and they were being considered by the government.

    The move by the UGC was seen by some of the academic experts, who do not wish to be identified, as allowing the foreign universities to come in without a legislative framework. They are also of the view that such a move would be in violation of the provisions of the UGC Act, 1956.

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  • Anonymous

    Folks , there was something on NDTV , that is straight down my alley.I watched Aamir khan’s Satyamev jayate on You Tube.HE IS 100% CORRECT ABOUT THE MEDICAL MALPRACTICES.Everybody knows it. though when every one is on the make and on the take , why pick on doctors. I mean why doesn’t Aamir make a programme showing HUNGER that afflicts 50% of population.
    I think Devi Shetty was overstating his case.I mean heart ailments needing surgery afflicts .0001% of rural population . So whatever he was talking about Rs10 insurance per month gives access to his nirmal hridayalaya IS UTTER BUNKUM. HOW ABOUT PROVIDING POTABLE WATER TO EVERY CITIZEN.
    Next is the unfortunate case of the lady who died after kidney and pancreas transplantation. NOW THIS IS GROSS NEGLIGENCE . The lady was transfused160 units of blood .After 15 units ,THECASE IS A GONER IN INDIA, for all the clotting factors are depleted and that leads to further bleeding . With that amount of transfusion SHE IS GUARANTEED TO HAVE DIC(beyond the scope of this blog). I think the surgeon cut a major artery, thus the problem , otherwise both kidney and pancreas transplantation is technically not a difficult proceedure.
    Also the lady didn’t need pancreas transplantation. It is only indicated in a BLIND PATIENT who cannot inject insulin himself.

    Also folks I may have cracked the problem of BLACK ECONOMY.
    Demonetise or make any denomination above Rs10 ,such as 100 ,500 1000Rs to be not recognised by RBI, or perhaps ask people to deposit with RBI and the money will go into their account.
    NOW EVERY TRANSACTION ABOVE 1000RS BY LAW HAS TO BE THROUGH ELECTRONIC BANK TRANSFER.
    This is one stroke will remove under invoicing of flat purchase.
    Now you may say ,okay the receipient will ask for it to be chanelled to two different accounts.Then if every house or flat transaction is by perforce of law
    is scanned by IT dept , then it will be doddle to unmask the crookery.
    This applies to every tranaction (IN UK EACH AND EVERY TRANSACTION IS THROUGH PIN AND CHIP)
    I hope some geezer in the govt is reading this
    SATYAMEV JAYATE

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr Shan-
    I have not seen this particular one; I am traveling in the US. However, I have seen his earlier one on female infanticide. It was a good one. He takes one subject, covers it well.

    We cannot ascribe governmental or political leadership responsibilities to Amir Khan. We should be thankful to him if these programs will change the behaviour of at least a few.

    Dr Devi Shetty’s hospital model – hub and spoke, outreach systems, specialization of all skills including medical and non-medical, car manufacturing/Toyota line model etc ; is considered an unique one; in fact, US hospitals are studying his “manufacturing process” methodology to reduce the healthcare cost here in US.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Shan

    “Also folks I may have cracked the problem of BLACK ECONOMY.
    Demonetise…..’

    Not a very effective method. It was tried once before in 1978 with average results.

    ==

    “NOW EVERY TRANSACTION ABOVE 1000RS BY LAW HAS TO BE THROUGH ELECTRONIC BANK TRANSFER”.

    Not feasible, unless the whole country ’s system is computerised. Though transactions in some sectors/busineses above a certain limit requires one to provide IT PAN card details.

    ==

    “Then if every house or flat transaction is by perforce of law is scanned by IT dept”

    Not practical – manpower is the restraint. If I am not mistaken, all high value transactions (limits vary from city to city) are indeed looked into by the IT department.

    ==

    Just as the above methods are not feasible and practical, the solution is for us to become more honest. Now isn’t that asking too much of us?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,

    Mr. Devi Shetty is trying to tackle one of the ‘millions’ of problem in India.
    Please don’t blame him for doing something good just because their are
    other problems on your priority list. if someone tries to do something about potable water than he will be blamed for not addressing issues like
    hunger, education etc.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Within a limited time frame, Amir picks up a subject that he thinks touches upon the common man. I am not sure what are the other subjects he will pick up in next 10 episodes, but every effort has been worth watching and debating.

    There is no doubt Shetty’s experiment has paid dividends. If it can be replicated all over the country with a small scheme it’s welcome.
    Now, potable water, cheap heart or eye surgeries are not mutually exclusive. So there is no question of “why not that….”

    India is already experimenting with UID and direct money transfer to the bank a/c and mobile money transfer in rural areas to provide them the banking facilities. The amount involved is relatively small , though the number of transactions are growing exponentially. This will help stabilise the system. At this moment, there are 7 banks involved, more will join in future.
    The circle rate approach has helped increase the govt revenue from the real estate transactions. The electronic transfer, direct debit/credit process has started and it will take some time to mature. A trip to grocery shop usually cost you more than 1000 rupees. I am not sure how easily these transactions can be done with smaller denominations. We still buy vegetables from the road side vendors in metros.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shaan Nirad Babu, A few corrections.
    Devi Shetty’s Hospital is Narayana Hridayalaya, not Nirmal.
    He has done great job in reducing the cost of operations, including dozens of operations for Pakistani children, in many cases, free of cost.

    I must recall here that heart and cancer operations are done FREE OF COST at Saibaba Hospitals both in Bangalore and Puttaparthi, in state of the art infra structure.

    Saibaba has also implemented several schemes in Andhra and Tamilnadu for providing clean drinking water to more than a thousand villages at his Ashram’s cost. Even Karunanidhi, the high priest of Atheists praised Saibaba for the service to humanity and gratefully accepted the help from the Baba.

    As for demonitisation, it is simply not possible and worthwhile. It poses enormous problems in a country like India with 80% poor population.
    Demonitisation and devaluation have been tried in the past with little success.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    One of my relatives had his heart surgery at SaiBaba hospital in Whitefield. A man of poor means, he did not have to pay anything in fees, plus they gave room and board for his wife while he was getting treated there

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,

    You are overlooking one of the huge problem the demonetization will bring.
    People will have to bring cash in trucks for the big card playing sessions – teen pati, rummy, poker – . Now with denominations of 1000 and 500 one can easily keep few lakhs rupees in his pockets.
    Bhai mere sabke baare mein socho before reaching any solution.

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  • Anonymous

    Good morning Freinds.

    Government of India today announced that it is changing its emblem from
    Ashoka pillar to Condom because it more accurately reflects the government’s
    political stance. A condom allows inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects bunch of dicks and gives you a sense of security while you are actually being screwed.

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  • Anonymous

    all poosie *** to Baba ramdev fast. dont ***, mustad oil lathi fix all.one poosie flying kite in empty sky.he also ***.or big ramdev lathi in his bore.

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  • Anonymous

    No record of CWG-related correspondences in CM’s office?
    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/No-record-of-CWG-related-correspondences-in-CM-s-office/Article1-865239.aspx

    The Central Information Commission (CIC) has directed the office of the Delhi chief minister to file a sworn affidavit affirming it does not have copies of correspondences related to the Commonwealth Games.
    The direction to the Public Information Officer came while hearing a complaint made by Delhi-based activist advocate Vivek Garg over denial of information, including
    copies of letters written by chief minister Sheila Dikshit to various Central ministers, in connection with the mega sporting event.

    Instead of filing a sworn affidavit, Ms. Dixit should put her hand on Bhagwat
    Geeta and swear ” Mein Geeta pe haath rakh kar kasam khati hoon”

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Surprising and if one may say so – criminal.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Remnants of a republic

    Excavations in Bihar have unearthed significant discoveries that point to a democratic set-up in Vaishali when it was the power centre of the Lichchhavi republic

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/remnants-of-a-republic/957108/0

    Vaishali is not new to history. Historians say one of the world’s first democratic republics flourished here in the 6th century BC during the time of the Vajjis and the Lichchhavis. The Ramayana talks of King Vishal who ruled here before the Lichchhavis. Vaishali was once also the centre for trade and industry.

    Excavations at the site have unearthed evidence of a drainage system and a small ring well from the Kushan period, which may have been used to dispose garbage. “Once we excavate horizontally, we can get a complete look at the drainage system. The key trench will be excavated till there are no signs of human habitation,” says Tiwari.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The “modern” Vaishali is all Jainist and Budhist history. Mahavira was born there; Budha delivered his last sermon there.
    The second Budhist Council was organized theer by king Kalasoka after Budha’s samadhi.
    VedVyasa refers to Vaishali kingdom in Mahabharatha, 12 year drought there, a major yagna for rains, the priest’s son RishyaSimha falling in love with Vaisali, the courtesan…. obviously prior to the Jaina/Budha period.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Thanks.

    I need to refresh the History of Ancient India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We can always depend upon you for the historical information
    on various subjects. Thanks.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Did rains do the Harappans in?

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/did-rains-do-the-harappans-in/957124/0

    Between 3,900 and 3,000 years ago, the Indus Valley civilisation—one of the world’s biggest civilisations, the size of ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia put together—came to an end. Until now, there were no clear answers, only hypotheses. Did invading foreigners destroy the civilisation? Probably there were massive earthquakes that destroyed cities along the Indus and its tributaries? Or maybe the rivers simply shifted course and left the cities on their banks to decay? Now there is compelling evidence to show that it was climate change that led to the collapse of the earliest civilisation India has seen.

    ==

    The samples collected showed that around 5,200 years ago, settlements
    came up along the Indus as weakened monsoons and reduced run-off from
    the mountains “tamed the wild Indus and its Himalayan tributaries enough
    to enable agriculture along their banks”.

    “The Harappans were enterprising people. The rivers were wild before the Indus civilisation started to appear. But as the monsoons and river floods started decreasing in intensity, agriculture started and gradually, the Indus became habitable and developed big cities,” says Giosan.

    When researchers stumbled on this civilisation in the 1920s, they found evidence of sea links with Mesopotamia, arts and crafts and a still-to-be deciphered writing. The cities here, with Harappa being the largest of them, lasted for almost 2,000 years, but as the rains weakened, the monsoon-based rivers dried, leading to migration.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    About 5000 years back climate change led to the collapse of the earliest civilisation . Was there any ozone layer depletion at that time. ? And
    what was the cause of this depletion ? A/C’s, fridges – would love to read the reaction, if there is any, from global warming alarmists.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    lagtaa hai aaj aap zaraa ’sarcastic mood’ mei.n hai.n

    ==

    Natural changes in climate takes place at a pace decided by nature itself.

    The people did not have enough knowledge and the tools (technology) to fight and survive in the changed climatic conditions. Thar desert is slowly expanding eastwards and northwards at the rate 500 metre per year. However, we have means for desertification control – we have built a canal system starting from Punjab onto the southern part of Rajasthan and I believe also measures such tree screens, shelter belt plantation have been undertaken to stop the spread.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ask any pakistani about mohenjadaro and harrappa, which i have done. You get a cold stare

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr Shantanu
    Pakistani children are taught they are Arab descendents..they do not even talk about partition in their text books! Mohanjadaro, Harappa, Indus civilization are all foreign to them..

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    manohar_T Reply:

    .they do not even talk about partition in their text books!

    They do in a way that suits them and not what exactly happened.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Pakistan has officially distorted & murdered history of South Asia to justify the two-nation theory and its own existence. The strain throughout has been anti-Hindu. Right from school and right up to university, one subject that is common throughout is ‘Pakistan Studies’, a vehicle for indoctrination rather than to teach history.

    Though the liberals and real historians in Pakistan have challenged the ‘official’ version.

    1) The most authoritative work debunking the official version is

    THE MURDER OF HISTORY
    A CRITIQUE OF HISTORY TEXTBOOKS USED IN PAKISTAN
    by Prof. K. K. AZIZ

    2) Watch Najam Sethi

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykz5qb7U3hs

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Pakistan is living in illusion that Islam will solve all their problems.
    If religions could solve the problems than more then 90% of
    the worlds population who follow some religion would have
    been living happily.

    manohar_T Reply:

    100% agree.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shaan, you are a marked man. Watch your back!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar
    Failure of rains/monsoons must have made our ancestors to move to the fertile Gangetic plains. Gangetic plains must have been quite fertile, since the later North Indian empires were all rich and all based around the Gangetic plains, precisely in the present Bihar and MP areas..

    Bihar was the centre of the ancient Indian awakening – universities, benevelont emperors,—- Let us hope Nitish will bring some glory back..

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    manohar_T Reply:

    ‘Let us hope Nitish will bring some glory back’.

    He is doing his best. The state is growing at a furious pace at the rate of 13%. With prosperity comes excellence in other fields – the arts, the education, etc. (you cannot have these on empty stomachs or by undernourished people).

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  • Anonymous

    Another feather in cap of Gujarat.

    Maruti inks R4K-cr deal for plant in Gujarat.

    http://www.samachar.com/AntiModi-show-bombs-Keshubhai-tries-old-lines-mgdhLNcfgda.html

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Celebrate. aadhaa peg aur pee lenaa ;-)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I hope he will lead India after the next general election..

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  • Anonymous

    IT PAN card. I dont know what purpose this serves.I had to have one recently.
    We are talking about TRANSACTIONS.As Dr Subramanium Swamy pointed out in reference to 2G scam , apparently USA CAN MONITOR EACH AND EVERY ELECTRONIC TRANSFER IN THE WORLD(yes you are reading it correct ,THE WORLD) .Just like in UK , GCHQ (ajoint UK/USA venture) monitors EVERY ELECTRONIC SIGNAL , be it mobile phone , faax , internet and what not).
    Thus Dr Swamy said as india is now so CHUMMY with USA , they should approach USA , and in no time we will know who paid whom nd how much AND WHEN,
    Also indians have a habit of blabbering on about corruption. I mean CORRUPT ARE BEING NABBED.The CBI judge has been nabbed SO HAS BEEN THE BJP MLA.
    Lets imagine there is ZERO corruption in INDIA
    Will a great deal change on the ground
    1. will hunger vanish (NO IT WONT

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    Anonymous Reply:

    2. will school and college entrance get easy(NO IT WONT , THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES)
    3. Will healthcare become affordable to ORDINARY PEOPLE(Aam aadmi)
    There is corruption everywhere.
    In UK a purchasing manager of SUPERMARKET GIANT SAINSBURY was convicted for taking bribe from suppliers .The bribe was for buying in inflated prices and favouring the bribe giver.
    Incredibly IT WAS NOT AN INDIAN , but a GORA
    i think that electonic transfer of his transactions for luxury hotels , yatch etc did him in
    BOTTOM LINE IS PRODUCTION PRODUCTION PRODUCTION
    Also just because there is no corruption WILL VIDEOCON TV’S FLOOD THE WORLD MARKET OR GODREJ FRIDGES
    I first time saw a hauwei mobile phone on display in a uk shop. Dont think it will sell much.I mean what chance has it got to compete with Samsung galaxy Iphone ,Motorola etc
    Folks are there any indian companies who make mobile phones

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,

    Pan card gives all the information of your assets you are holding.
    Will end of corruption change the ground realities?
    It will have huge impact. We have didcussed NREGA scheme here many times. In this scheme 100 days job in a year is guaranteed to unskilled
    people living BPL. They are suppose to dig wells, restore roads, government
    hosptials, schools and many other similar types of jobs. On paper this scheme looks good but the problem is with the implementation. BPL cards
    are required to become entitled for this scheme. Anyone can get these
    cards by paying bribes and because of this most of the needy/deserving
    people are not able to enjoy the benefits of this scheme.
    Benefits do not reach the real needy people, fake muster rolls are
    prepared with ficticious names, fake reports of jobs done are prepared,
    submitted and accepted. If corruption is controlled then I am sure we will
    see positive effect on the people’s lives.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    agree, Mohan/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Any suggestion how the benefit will reach the needy people ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Give it to a TRUSTED organisation to disburse /oversee the project.How about asking Azim Premji, Mohan das Pai , and Nandan Nilekani to join hands and create a charitable organisation in the mould of VETERANS ADMINISTRATION in usa , or RED CROSS or Oxfam UK etc.Give all the NREGA money to them , leave it to them to work out the modaity of disbursement and the projects

    Anonymous Reply:

    Give it Anna hazare, with Kapil Sibal, Jairam Ramesh and Mani Shankar as trustees.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It may sound weird, but none of them have the experties to handle project of this size. They are yet to venture into real interior of India.

    We need honest people. But more than that we need people who can truly reach out to villagers , be with them, execute projects round the year.

    You must understand the scope of this project. The linkages to the villagers through a web of collector’s office, BDO, Panchayat etc is really mind boggling.

    More than creating a new structure which can take decades, we must think of creating scientific checks and balances. New audit and payment disbursements system.

    Vinnoo’s forensic accounting experience will help.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    I am not an expert in this and correct me if I am wrong.
    Do the people from Delhi have to go to the different parts of
    the country to disburse these funds. Are not the systems and records in place in towns, villages and their panchayats where right people can be indentified and given the jobs accordingly.
    Is not the work which is supposed to be done inspected, checked, verified and than payment released. I am not
    blaming any particular political party – all are to be blamed – but
    isn’t itvery frustrating when we see corruption at almost all the
    levels from top to bottom? I just do not understand that even after hearing same stories of corruption from every where why no
    serious and concrete attempts are being made to curb this menace ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Corruption issue is a long term problem.

    One must learn from large companies dealing with software/music piracy. They have employed protracted strategies to contain this problem and the result has started showing.

    Many sane voices have tried to give ideas. But they have been shouted down by the street shouting brigade.

    We find it so difficult to get one genuinely honest guy in our office, but expect the Govt to find thousands of honest guys in remote places.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Decentralise the government right down to panchayat / town / taluka levels and let them handle and deal with the local problems. That is the way forward.

    Anonymous Reply:

    They can only implement. They can not generate money. If they could, then there wouldn’t have been any migration.

    manohar_T Reply:

    They can. For exampl,e wherever the locals have implemented watershed / water security programmes, the economy of the village / group of villages has boomed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    We still talk about commitment of one person or a group of people. It can not be generlised. If people could be motivated remotely, then one news item on Doordarshan would have been enough.
    As a policy maker or executioner, you can’t depend on this model or wait for miracle to happen.

    manohar_T Reply:

    I am not suggesting that we have to wait for commitment of the ideal few. The push from the top is needed, but leave it to lower levels to execute, monitor and reap the benefits. The Secretary in some Bhawan in Delhi cannot supervise what is happening in some ‘Naapataa gaon’ in some remote part of the country.

    When the locals play an active part in some development project (at a micro level) in their own backyard (not some Thekedaar who comes from a large town or city, by bribing the Ministers and Babus), then they understand the value of what they have done.

    Anonymous Reply:

    gain it is not rocket science. Every village will have a branch of the
    organisation created by premji et al.They will disburse the payment. As
    to the programmes they will be centrally worked out on the basis of a
    STANDARD FORMULA.
    If these people can mange an organisation of 100000 people , they will
    be able manage these in no time aided by able people

    Anonymous Reply:

    They manage 100000 people in ideal and controlled environment.

    Same professionals fall fla when there is a slight deviation in the environmental parameters.

    Imagine they floundered while implementing the passport, tax, I’d card implementation in India.

    And you expect them handle projects in sparshly populated remote villages !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Again it is not rocket science. Every village will have a branch of the organisation created by premji et al.They will disburse the payment. As to the programmes they will be centrally worked out on the basis of a STANDARD FORMULA.
    If these people can mange an organisation of 100000 people , they will be able manage these in no time aided by able people

    Anonymous Reply:

    Every village?
    I am not sure if you have any idea about remote Indian villages. You are making it sound like all of them lined along the highway.
    An election commission official travels for hoursin night by boat, then fold his pant up to cross water bodies to reach a village early morning so thatpeople can vote. And yes he sets up his under a tree with his EVM. When we criticise our system, we must also appreciate the odds that the administration is fighting against.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr Shantanu
    Hunger will not vanish — it has never, ever. It exists in the richest and most democratic country of US, and in Somalia – at different degrees.

    Gautama Budha renounced everything to find the root cause of poverty and suffering, he gave us a great religion and thought system (and the smiling Dalai Lama); but poverty and disease are still with us.

    That does not mean corruption should be left untackled. Or for that matter all the other problems.

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  • Anonymous

    A thought provoking article by TJS George (with the murder of an ex-CPM leader in kerala in the background)
    http://expressbuzz.com/opinion/columnists/dynasty-communal-manipulation-murder/397731.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,
    I read the article this morning and immensely liked it. I was reminded of you while reading it.

    TJS George is one editor, who writes without fear or favour.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    A very good article. In our country one can get away even after openly admitting to murders. Would love to read views of Ashish on this who has
    a vey good knowledge of the workings of CPI.

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  • Anonymous

    I am dismayed as to (how little) the coverage about the Andhra/jagan/YSR looting.
    This is not an ordinary corruption case, and not just a case of stealing zillions of rupees. We cannot just put it in the Mayawati/Spectrum scale and say it fits in that routine, except that the amount is a little higher.

    It is not that. It is not just the money. Money theft has happened always, some less, some more. It is the scale of the whole operations , it is the involvement of the complete state machinery, it is the scale of transfer of the assets of the state – land, minerals, water – to private (mainly YSR and his cronies) hands.

    Media should give front page news on this every day, TV channels should cover this every day. People should be made aware of the scope and scale of operations.

    It is simply beyond belief that in Manohar’s elegant “supreme” democracy, a man at the centre of this looting will get sympathy votes and may probably win the majority of the 18 seats contested in the next week’s by election.
    It simply is unbelievable that a few congress MLAs will leave the party and join Jagan’s party after a lot of these were revealed.

    And it is disgusting that BJP stated this as a political vendetta , and why CBI is not going after Vilas Rao and Shinde.

    Assuming Jagan does not get away, and several others (such as the congress minister in AP cabinet and this judge) are also cornered, Congress can make a claim for comeback that the government understood the extent of the rape of the state, they acted on it, although late, and put the perpetrators in jail.

    This is not just an Andhra case. This is the mother of all corruption with the coopting of the bureaucracy from top to bottom.

    This can happen in other states. It potentially can happen at the centre, where a future PM can literally sell the country to (pakistan or china).

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    all efforts are being made by the CBI.ED and finance ministry to obliterate all evidence of moneys having been “sent” to the 10 Janpath coffers. Once the all clear sign is received the whole thing will explode in the media.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, may be YSR got killed when “they” knew the extent of his dealings, that even “they” felt the whole thing is going far beyond the boundaries set..
    We have to have journos like Woodward and Bernstein to unearth

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Even Woodward and Bernstein had a help from deep throat.
    Here in India, everybody can be bought or threatened to remain
    silent.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Reddy Brothers deal with Pakistanis and finance BJP while Modi is in love with chinese. Take your pick.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It has nothing to do with Reddy bros or Modi, and not a “political” indictment. What happened in Andhra at the hands of YSR (Jagan is stupid , a tool who did not know all the ins and outs and possibly dad ddi not explain to him everything due to his untimely death) can happen at centre, under any PM (of any party, probabilistically a Congress one) .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Fortunately, you didn’t say Modi is in love with Jayalalithaa.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Residents of lesbea and gayuna don’t fall in love with each other. They stick to their natives.

    Anonymous Reply:

    So called bachelors residing in Delhi are rumoured to be falling in love with boys.

    Anonymous Reply:

    One retired hurt to Manali with a bottle of oil.
    Another missing in action for last few weeks.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Nothing out of the blue has happened today. Hence, no one seems to be talking.

    Jagan is in custody and the CBI is ‘investigating’ the case. We will know what happens next, probably after the results of the by-elections in Andhra are announced.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Has media not understood the magnitude of loot by YSR and his son?
    Or they have been bought to remain silent?

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    yeh ‘chamatkaar’ kaise ho gayaa?

    ==

    Team Anna member Arvind Kejriwal storms out of fast venue after Ramdev snubs him

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Team-Anna-member-Arvind-Kejriwal-storms-out-of-fast-venue-after-Ramdev-snubs-him/articleshow/13776527.cms

    During his speech,
    Kejriwal attacked Singh and his Cabinet colleagues whom Team Anna had
    accused of indulging in corruption and mentioned the names of Mulayam Singh Yadav, Lalu Prasad Yadav, Jayalalithaa and Mayawati.

    Soon after Kejriwal finished his speech, Ramdev took the microphone and
    said “today, we thought that we will not take any body’s name. But Arvind took the names”.

    “We don’t want any controversies. Arvind does not have any enmity with anyone. The names have been taken in some context. We are against personal criticism”, he said.

    ==

    .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    Is this a news?

    And we do not go in depth on AP Scam…as I noted here

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Of course, given the fact that Team Anna ‘aspires’ to change the fortunes and the discourse of the country.

    (dis)United Colours of Team Anna.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    No govt wants a strong Lokpal: Santosh Hegde

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-govt-wants-a-strong-Lokpal-Santosh-Hegde/articleshow/13777768.cms

    “The government should bring in a strong Lokpal bill, but I don’t think any government will want to bring a strong Lokpal bill. The government does not have the intent”, Hegde told reporters as he joined in the protest by Karnataka Chapter of India Against Corruption at the Freedom Park here on Sunday.

    He expressed happiness that Anna Hazare and yoga guru Ramdev had come together over the issue of corruption.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Pathak, Gopi, Ashish, Mahesh, Mohan, Ravi and others.

    The Muslim League had proposed that there should be a proportional representation system on the basis of religion in legislatures and possibly in all sectors of Government. The Congress Party rejected it and the subsequent events led to the partition of the country.

    Was this proportional representation system a good idea? Would the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Proportional representation in legislatures is fine, but not in Govt. Deptds.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are only bringing a second partition. Muslim League in Kerala is too willing.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is the reason why Bihar got divided, Uttaranchal formed, Odisha may get divided in 3 parts and Telengana is already burning.
    Though the difference is region. But the essence remains same. Providing voice to different sections of society.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Do you know of any democratic country, which has this system in place and is successful?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Never studied carefully. But doesn’t sound out of place.

  • Anonymous

    TEHELKA UNMASKED BY PAKISTAN
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    By COOMI KAPOOR
    —Indian Express, 3rd June, 2012:

    Filtering out NDA:

    The Task Force on National Security, headed by Naresh Chandra, recently submitted its report to the Prime Minister. However, members of the committee were in for a surprise. The PMO wanted references to the achievements of the Vajpayee government removed from the document. The final draft had consequently to be re-worked and portions relating to the Kargil Review Committee instituted by then Prime Minister Vajpayee, were omitted. The recommendations of the Group of Ministers constituted in 2000 to act on the Kargil Committee Report’s findings were also deleted. The PMO instructed the Task Force report focus simply on how the UPA views national security. In spite of censoring the major portion concerning the NDA government, in some chapters, references to the Kargil Review Committee and the GoM’s recommendations still crop up.
    Diplomatic illness:

    Writing a blog and skipping the rally at the end of the BJP’s national executive meeting in Mumbai were not the only indications of L K Advani’s unhappiness over the manoeuvrings that ensured Nitin Gadkari’s second term as president. When the resolution seeking to amend the party constitution so that office bearers could have two consecutive terms came up for discussion at the national executive in Mumbai, Advani was missing. He said he had to visit an ailing relative. Earlier at the office bearers meet in Delhi where the issue was first raised, Advani stayed away, saying he was not well. He had hoped to install Ananth Kumar as party president. Kumar has been especially close to the BJP veteran since Advani’s 2011 rath yatra, for which Kumar was the chief coordinator.
    Missing owner:

    During the IPL final in Chennai, the camera was focused on owner of the Kolkata Knight Riders, Shah Rukh Khan, but did not offer any shots of rival Chennai Super Kings owner N Srinivasan. For good reason though. Srinivasan was not in the MA Chidamabaram stadium because he believes when he watches the match in person, his team loses. He sat in a hotel room, not even seeing the action on TV and instead relied on friends to update him on the match through SMSes. As he is also president of the BCCI, he had per force to be present at the start of the ceremony when veteran cricketers were being felicitated, but after that he left the ground. He returned once more for the presentation ceremony.

    Wrong handshake:

    Weekly news magazine Tehelka recently carried an article claiming that the Pakistan establishment is pushing for trade ties with India. To illustrate the point, it included a photograph of General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, head of the Pakistani Army, shaking hands with Commerce Minister Anand Sharma. The Pakistan High Commission is upset since no such handshake took place. Apparently, the photo was morphed and the General’s image had been superimposed on a photograph of Sharma shaking hands with Pakistan’s commerce minister. The magazine subsequently printed a letter explaining the morphing. The Pakistanis are contemplating approaching the Press Council of India. Press Council Chief Markandey Katju may be unpopular with the Indian press, but he is respected in Pakistan since he personally petitioned for the release of Pakistani scientist Mohammed Khalil Chishti who was undergoing imprisonment in Ajmer jail for murder.
    Difficult to locate:

    After receiving the Andhra High Court judgment scrapping the 4.5 per cent sub-quota for minorities within the OBC reservation in jobs and education institutions, the Law Ministry tried desperately to get in touch with Attorney General Goolam Vahanvati for his opinion but had a tough time locating him. Vahanvati had gone to Geneva as head of a delegation to the UN Human Rights Council, but had left the city by the time the judgment was announced. The ministry finally located the attorney general on a ship cruising the Mediterranean.

    Avoiding a meeting:

    At the recently concluded Home Secretary level talks in lslamabad, once again no agreement was reached on the contentious issue of liberalising visa rules, even though the matter has been pending for long. According to sources, Pakistan’s Interior Minister Rehman Malik is holding out clearing the new visa rules until he first has a full-fledged interaction with Home Minister P Chidambaram. He believes Chidambaram has been deliberately avoiding meeting him for the last two years. Whether it was the cricket test match at Mohali or the PM’s lunch for Asif Zardari, the Indian Home Minister has been making polite excuses. This could be because Chidambaram believes that little purpose will be served by a meeting unless Malik first makes good on the promises he made on follow-up action in the wake of the Mumbai terror act.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    The Kargil report which will eventually come out will say that it was
    our Brahmin Yuvraj Rahul Gandhi who led the army to our victory.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Like Bangladesh war was led to win by Modi!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    No one knew who Modi was during Bangladesh war. Now we know who is Rahul Gandhi and what he is capable of.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Don’t you know Bangladesh war happened last year near kutch?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nobody would know more about Kutch than me on this
    blog at least. The dream of Modi is to make Kutch another
    Las Vegas – sans casinos and daroo-.

    manohar_T Reply:

    “The dream of Modi is to make Kutch another Las Vegas – sans casinos and daroo-.”

    In that case (sans fun and entertainment), it will remain a pipe dream.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Please don’t under estimate Modi. This is his very long term
    plan and if he remains CM of Gujarat for another 10 years
    he may achieve this.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Wait for decades.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Just remove s from the last word you have posted.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Ten years? With such sentiment, you are sorely going to disappoint his fan(atic)s here, who want him to be the PM tomorrow morning at 6 AM sharrrrp.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Cannot predict what is going to happen. Does he wants to become PM, and if yes, will he ?
    Time is required for such mammoth project and I think that
    even ten years is not enough. Whenever he starts working
    towards this than I am sure he will make sure that he achieves
    this barring unforeseen circumstances.

    manohar_T Reply:

    10 years is too much. He has been given credit for lot of wonderful things that he did for Gujarat in just 10 days and in many cases even 10 hours. So why not this project in 10 months? ;-)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Can Modi lead the election at the national level, win and then let Advani be the PM?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Invest in some land quickly.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Real estate prices in Kutch are already touching sky high.

    manohar_T Reply:

    I suppose the foot soldiers were VHP and BD cadres with trishuls and conch shells as ‘weapons of mass destruction’

  • Anonymous

    Shan,

    Is there anything called penile cancer ?

    This gentleman after going through full check up was told by the doctor
    that he was suffering from cancer of penis. He went home and shouted at
    his wife ‘ I told you to stop smoking.”

    [Reply]

    manohar_T Reply:

    If there was a Nobel Prize for Jokes, you would be the top contender.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    There is indeed , and most prevalent in India and africa.Must say didn’t get the joke.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Smoking is the cause of cancer. This is what this gentleman assumed
    when doctor told him the dreaded news.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Smoking what? ;-)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Joka ka m…….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,

    Yaar, Get married. On second thought you don’t need to get
    married for this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Somebody has to tell us whether this happens due to non-use, misuse or overuse…

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    BJP’s hall of shame gets murkier

    http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_bjps-hall-of-shame-gets-murkier_1697560

    Though Kolar Gold Field MLA Y Sampangi attained the dubious distinction
    of being the first MLA in the state to get convicted for corruption, his
    political guru and former chief minister BS Yeddyurappa and many other
    BJP colleagues are also facing similar charges.

    ==

    12 BJP politicians have been named. Must be the ‘most honest’ government Karnataka ever had.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It was because of Lokyukta he was caught and punished.
    All the more reason for having Lokpal.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    At the centre and in other states, many scams and corruption cases have been unearthed, people arrested and cases in courts underway – all minus the Lokpal and Lokayuktas. Therefore we can do without them.

    However, going by your logic, then why is Modi (him again) resisting the person not of his choice as a Lokayukta?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not a blind follower of Modi. He should not resist in appointment of Lokayukta.

    manohar_T Reply:

    I know. You have not hesitated in passing strictures against him before. I was just pulling your leg.

  • Anonymous

    @ mahesh

    I am pretty closely associated with the power industry closely and perhaps it would be wrong to put in public domain, facts which I have access to in personal capacity. Let me go over the Enron fiasco from a different prism

    a) At one point India needed to send a signal to the world, especially the Americans that it had opened up its power sector

    b) Babus in government departments can fill in paper to give a tilt to an argument whatever way the government desires them to.

    c) A high return assured with a depreciating rupee and variable fuel costs were a sure road for disaster.

    d) The Ministers assumed that the bankers and the bureaucrats would be smart enough to have done their homework and India would be getting a good deal. IDBI would not have thrown the spanner on a political decision.

    e) A better way would have been to tie the fuel prices to an assured source for say 15 years.

    f) NTPC power production costs could have been a benchmark though coal costs hardly vary as do gas prices. However in the end, the consumer has to get power at an acceptable rate to make a project succesfull. This factor was forgotten and a detailed chart taking the rupee depreciation and fuel input costs, does not seem to have been fully analysed.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Great. Beating around the bush with so many words and revealing nothing. You should be a politician.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Will be wrong to reveal specifics. I am honour bound somewhere.

    However I can only say that the intention of the people involved was really not so bad. Maybe we did not have experience of handling such huge projects.
    :

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    manohar_T Reply:

    I do not buy that keeping in mind the insinuations you have made.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Frankly I am not here to convince you. In my opinion this was not so much about kickbacks as has been time and again insinuated.

    There was Enron. there was Bechtel, there was GE. Bechtel and GE are backbone of American industry and got in finance for the project. Getting them interested in India would and was a huge achievement then

    The Rao government thought it was buying goodwill through a win win situation from international business.

    However the costing for Liquifeid natural gas was not done keeping in mind fluctuating oil prices. The tie up with Qatar for 2.5 mt gas supply yearly. was safe on the face of it.but the dollar parity had changed from Rs 28 to I think about rs 40 in 2001.

    There was no way energy production cost could compare with hydel or thermal power.

    The Cost plus method arrived at had skewed everything in favour of Enron.

    Anonymous Reply:

    From my own experience, cost plus method has always benefitted the vendor, even in my own case.

    But I am unable to figure out the issue you are trying to raise.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Pathak

    We are trying to find out where the Enron project went wrong. Cost Plus would always be an issue in power production. A way out would be to leave the supply of input fuel to the GOI giving them a choice of sourcing it, in case the vendor seems to be making a profit out it and then leaving the cost of Building and operating the plant to the vendor at predetermined fixed costs.

    manohar_T Reply:

    I am not here either to be convinced by you. I keep an open mind and I form an opinion, with whatever data /info I can lay my hands on.

    Whether right or wrong – we were the ones in need of power and in early 90s, our economy was tottering and perhaps we did not have the enough clout to dictate terms. I do not know whether the other bidders were offering us sweeter lollipops than Enron. Plus these multinational companies or any company were not coming here for fresh air, love or any fascination for India or things Indian, plus they gave two hoots for the fact our politicians are in the habit of giving free electricity or at dirt-cheap prices. That was our problem.

    Did renegotiation by the SS / BJP (after Rebecaa Mark presented a teddy bear to Bal Thakre) result in a deal more favourable to us?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes business is about no favours but about a win win situation. The world bank had refused to fund this project way back in 1993 itself as it did not see power being produced at reasonable cost.

    The fuel itself Liqueifed natural gas has many unresolved technical issues including risk of explosions.

    I still feel that it was more of a decision taken without correct analysis. Maybe the GOI should have studied plants operating on LNG before going in for it and then also appointing international experts to guide and monitor the whole thing.

    The final tariff should have been bench marked to NTPC cost of production with coal.

    Won’t say about Thakrey. Rebecca Mark’s tight skirts or the teddy may have fooled Him…

    manohar_T Reply:

    Now you are talking. Good to read your concerns. Perhaps, more due diligence and a more exhaustive study shoul dhave been done.

    Though I an not sure whether one could benchmark cost of LNG with NTPC’s cost of coal. Isn’t that comparing apples and oranges?

    ==

    Fooled him? Not a chance. He knew what he wanted and did get it – a ’stuffed’ teddy bear.

    Anonymous Reply:

    There are ways to be relevant without revealing specifics. That calls for special report writing ability.

    Else, don’t even raise a point.

  • Anonymous

    @ Pathak and others.

    There has been lot of funny talk that all these reforms have been because of Rajiv Gandhi. Well as a young CA I would do detailed analysis of the budget. And surprise surprise…. nobody remembers that Rajiv gandhi was a finance Minister once, after he took the job away from VP SIngh and as FM… Rajiv did a pretty bad job.. no huge initiatives only taxes.

    The incentives to industry and removing licences was done by VP Singh in 1985 and 1986.

    Rajiv I think presented a boring listless budget in 1987.

    The next two budgets after that were of SB Chavan. Does anybody remember him for changing the socialist raj and licencing corruption?

    To take the credit away from PV Narasimha Rao, Manmohan Singh and the IMF danda is pure lies, trash, cooked up pills…

    Of course it could be genuine worship that we ascribe all good to Sonia and Rajiv in this country.

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  • Anonymous

    Interestingly enough, Shriman Rahul Gandhi has resurfaced from his hideout in erstwhile lodhi Hotel now owned by Robert Vadra and renamed the 7 star luxury Aman.

    he has landed in Bangalore and NDTV has started a UP election type coverage of focusing everything on Rahul. Rest of teh media in Delhi is expected to join in soon.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    So what is your gripe (water)?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think you are being touchy in case somebody does not worship your hero and just sees him as a listless dynast. Why?

    When you are on a blog, be open minded enough to appreciate people who may see things differently.

    Why should I sell my soul or my country worship-ping an individual who has not proven himself in any job?

    You may want to do it. I will never sell my ideals.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    He is not my hero. Read what I have said earlier about him.

    Of course, I appreciate and many time disapprove of posts here.

    My question was what is your gripe, as it was not clear what were you trying to say? Lambasting him for coming out for his party work or the media that chose to cover the event(s)?

    Anonymous Reply:

    My contention is that the media is unfairly biased in giving good coverage to Rahul Gandhi. We saw what happened in UP elections. Akhilesh Yadav barely got 1% of Rahul Gandhi’s coverage yet got 10 times more seats.

    But we were made to believe that Rahul is going to sweep the elections and had now prepared grounds for his imminent elevation to the PM’s seat.

    The same is now going to be repeated in Karnataka. If by accident Congress does manage to recover ground– then all credit will go to Rahul. In case it loses, the party is to blame.

    This sort of blind hero worshiping is sad for our country. Why doesn’t Rahul do some job– even as a tourism Minister before he is projected as the PM. Or do you think for being the PM of India… you dont have to have any qualification or work experience?

    Further on when I wrote Aman Hotel– I was just quoting the Outlook magazine which says that Rahul has stopped meeting people and spends his time in the bro-in_law owned seven star, super luxury Aman Hotel, taken over from ITDC.

    manohar_T Reply:

    1)Media is unfairly biased.

    So what should we do about it? Start a new channel, completely blacking him out?

    2) You must have believed the media hook line and sinker that he was going to sweep UP. Most of us here on the blog knew as to the fate of the Congress.

    3) then all credit will go to Rahul. In case it loses, the party is to blame.

    That is the way the Congress sycophants operate and you or me can do nothing about it.

    4) Hero worship? Is he the only one God in out country? What about Modi or Jayalaliitha – are there no fan(atic)s? In Amma’s case, followers and ministers prostrate in front of her – is that not worship? In Modi’s case, his worshipers resort to abuse and insinuation to silence his critics, is that not a worship?

    You seem to have problem with only one. I have a problem with most.

    5) Why doesn’t Rahul do some job?

    He is very sensible, that is why. If he was in Dr. Manmohan Singh’s cabinet as a Minister, he would have become a second power centre in the Government. He has chosen not to be seen as an obtrusive figure in the functioning of the Government. Check out where he sits almost in the last row in the parliament. If he wanted, he would have had a seat in the first or second row – the Speaker would have obliged. Having said, he could have pitched himself as the Congress’ CM candidate in UP elections and if elected with majority, could have learnt the ropes in Lucknow.

    5) If the same thing is going to happen in Karnataka, you should be the happiest person, as the BJP will romp again in the next state elections, so why are you complaining? Celebrate.

    6) Frankly, I have no idea about the Aman Hotel. If it has been handed over to his brother-in-law in a shady manner, why hasn’t the opposition (read BJP) disrupted the parliament all these years and put the Government on the mat?

    Is it a crime to spend time in his brother-in-law’s property?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think the BJP lead by Sushma swaraj has drawn a line against attacking Sonia and her family personally. due to her friendship.

    ‘ll answer your points tomorrow.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Manohar

    1) We dont have to start a new channel. The media has to introspect why for the personal gains of the journalists and the owners of the newspapers and channels, news has been corrupted. Why there is an attempt to create fake news so that the rather clownish scion of the Nehru Khandaan gets the seat.

    2) I never believed that Rahul would sweep UP, however the media believed so and wanted us to believe. Did they believe it themselves or did they take indirect rishwat to do so?

    In case they were lying then do we need to believe them when they say the temperature is 46 deg in Delhi or do we need to phone up a friend who will tell us, Why did the media lioe is the big question?

    4) Hero worship[ is bad. Even of Modi and Jaya. However I see the national media only trying to portray those two as villians.

    So one sude the national media tries to make a hero of Rahul, and sonia, despite their non perormance and tries to portray Modi and jaya as villians, when both these have performed best in the states. Just shows that there is a game of hero worship and villian creation.

    6) Nothing wrong i sitting in your brother in laws property. However since the brother in law was good enough to move to owning 7 star hotels in the heart of Delhi in the last 8 years, maybe he should reveal the tricks of his business to the youth of India to inspire them.

    manohar_T Reply:

    1) Please write to the news channels expressing your concerns or approach Justice Katju. If they show too much of a person or are biased, I always have the remote in my hand and know when to switch channels., plus I do not believe whatever they say, I have a mind of my own.

    If you consider the Nehru khandaan as clownish, so be it. You are entitled to your opinions – no issues.

    2) Earlier, you said you were made to believe it was going to be so. I said most of us did not. In any case, you must have learnt a lesson – never trust these ‘damn’ channels. Whether these channels took any ‘ rishwat’ or not – do not ask me (I am not in the know), it s a matter that can be investigated by a forensic accountant – a ‘180 degree view’ should suffice

    3) I just gave two examples, there are others too – Mayawati with her countless statues. Congress sycophancy is world famous and most of us are appalled. It is your bad luck that Modi and Jaya have been singled out negatively – blame it on the media or their PR machinery or their persona.

    4) Either wait for the CAG report or ask the BJP to dig out the details – your forensic accounting expertise should come in handy. Even I would like to know whether the prime properties were given away at throwaway prices or just gifted by showing undue favours to him.

    If there is nothing wrong sitting in brother-in-law’s property, then why were you cribbing earlier?

    manohar_T Reply:

    Strange explanation.

    What type of opposition party is this? Family silver belonging to state /people has been disposed off – either by following rules without any hanky-panky or by not following the rules with lots of hanky-panky. I think you are alluding to the latter, then the opposition is abdicating its responsibility by not questioning the transaction. just because it relates to Sonia Gandhi and her family. Tell me another.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo, Pathakji,

    both of you haven’t got the correct picture of Rahul G’s visit to Karnataka. The Indian Express carried a front page news that Rahul couldn’t and didn’t reply to questions from party workers and leaders.

    In a public meeting two days ago, where thousands had been brought from all over, he spoke some inanities for just under eight minutes and left, leaving the hired janta and devout workers stunned.

    The BJP is mighty pleased that Rahul G is taking personal interest in the state politics and electioneering in the next year’s election. They are sighting his performances in Bihar, Tamilnadu, Kerala and recently in Punjab and most importantly in UP. What they say is that if he takes command of the state elections, BJP victory even in these times of public disenchantment with the party, will be ensured.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I hope fellow bloggers are open to the truth that Rahul does NOT deserve to be the PM. It is good to know that for once Indian Express could see the truth. Journalism of courage should have the courage to see the obviious.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Resurfaced in Aman, Delhi….landed in Bangalore……
    Your forensic accounting going wild all over…….trying to create a suspense a/c?

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Oil marketing firms contest Ravi’s claims

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article3486874.ece?homepage=true

    Dismissing the “false impression” of having made huge profits, chief
    executives of the three state-owned oil firms on Sunday said a combined bailout package totalling a whopping Rs. 1,38,500 crore had helped them report nominal profits in 2011-12 fiscal.

    In an unusual joint statement, Indian Oil chairman R.S. Butola, Bharat
    Petroleum chief R.K. Singh and Hindustan Petroleum CMD Subir Roy
    Chowdhry said contrary to the false impression of oil marketing companies (OMCs) making huge profits in 2011-12, the oil firms had “incurred huge losses of Rs. 15,100 crore in the first nine months (April-Dec 2011)”.

    ==

    “It is only after the assistance (subsidy) of Rs. 83,500 crore from the
    government and Rs. 55,000 crore (grant) from the upstream oil companies (ONGC, OIL and GAIL), totalling Rs. 1,38,500 crore, the three public sector OMCs could declare nominal profits,” it said.

    Had this assistance not been given, the three OMCs would have reported a combined loss of Rs. 1,32,000 crore, it said.

    The three OMCs together had a combined turnover of Rs. 8. 33,000 crore
    during 2011-12. Against this, they had declared a combined profit of mere Rs. 6,177 crore, which is only 0.7 per cent of their turnover.

    ==

    I had said V Ravi does not know how to read Balance Sheets and does not what is happening in the Government of India.

    The amount involved is astronomical. Should have been used for more pressing projects like building proper godowns for grains, more road connectivity, schools, health care centres.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Bedi’s parallel: UAE hand-chopping law

    * Also read the above post on Human Rights.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/bedis-parallel-uae-handchopping-law/957540/

    Triggering fresh fears about the inherently anti-constitutional nature of its protest, Team Anna member Kiran Bedi today said that the Lokpal they wanted would evoke the same dread as the UAE law mandating that the hand of a thief be chopped off as punishment.

    “There is no democracy in the UAE. The hands of thieves are chopped off there. There is a fear of law. If the CBI is under the control of Lokpal, wrongdoers will have the same fear,” said Bedi, speaking at today’s joint Team Anna-Ramdev protest.

    ==

    1) There was no iota of doubt from day one, as to the nature of Team Anna’s protest and methods – they were unconstitutional. When Anna himself justifies flogging a person to beat some sense into him, can Kiran Bedi (an ex-IPS officer to boot) be far behind?

    She says, there is no democracy there. Is she implying that we should cease to be a democratic country too?

    One must note what irrelevance and desperation does to a person’s thinking and utterances.

    2) I think she got the country wrong – probably it is Saudi Arabia and not UAE (does not matter in the context she is putting her foot in the mouth).

    It seems, she would like us to import the worst practices from across the globe and make our country an ‘evil rashtra’.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Pathak

    What say u on Rajiv Gandhi the reformer

    a) 1985 and 1986 budgets which did away with industrial licencing in some way were presented by VP Singh. End 1986 . VP Singh was a villain. Arjun Singh, KK tewari, Sajjan Kumar, RK Dhawan and co pvt ltd were set loose on him.

    b) 1987 Rajiv Gandhi budget presented a socialist budget with high taxes, no reform, return to Congress of the old.

    c) 1988 and 1989 budgets presented by SB Chavan. Listless, boring, no real stimulus to industry

    And then… After rajiv gandhi dies

    When PV Rao comes back in 1991, he and Manmohan SIngh under orders from IMF do everything.

    a) Do away with almost ALL industrial controls.

    b) Proactive FDI policy

    c) Huge push to exports/

    Today the COngress is creating fiction and myths that Rajiv gandhi did this.

    Do you also believe this?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    there is no choice to Pathakji in this matter, much as you and I would like him to say ,’no, I don’t believe all this **** about Rajiv did this and Rajiv did that’. All true family bhakts (I will hence forth not use the expressive term family servants) are honour bound to accept that all good that happened in this country happened during the family Raj.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    History has to be dispassionate. It will be sad that the credit due to P V Narasmiha Rao is snatched away and given to Rajiv Gandhi just for the sake of hero worship.

    This sort of thing is done in Pakistan.

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    India makes dubious claims before UN on human rights

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/India-makes-dubious-claims-before-UN-on-human-rights/articleshow/13792624.cms

    It was due to a civil society struggle that the government only last year removed the bar on outsiders from participating in the social audit of projects executed under its showcase legislation of MGNREGA. Barring Andhra Pradesh, no state has so far implemented this reform. Yet, in its report for the ongoing universal periodic review (UPR) before the UN Human Rights Council, India cited the social audit clause in MGNREGA as an example of its policy of involving civil society in governance.

    ==

    “States have reported that social audit has been conducted in 91% of the Gram Panchayats. 2,44,000 reports on social audit have been uploaded on the MGNREGA website,” the government said, although the social audit in most of those cases had been conducted without the involvement of a civil society group or independent agency.

    This is only one of the dubious claims made by India in a bid to downplay its failure to meet a lot of the commitments it had made at the end of the earlier UPR four years ago in Geneva. The council adopted a draft report on India’s second UPR on May 30, comprising 169 recommendations on a range of human rights issues raised by 80 countries.

    ==

    Other human rights issues on which India has been on the defensive included its failure to break the deadlock on enacting a law against communal and targeted violence, to strengthen legal mechanisms related to sexual violence and human trafficking, to impart human rights training to the police, to establish a moratorium on death penalty and to address iniquities based on the rural-urban divide.

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    MEA no to 4 judges for foreign trips, warns two of host’s PoK ties

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/mea-no-to-4-judges-for-foreign-trips-warns-two-of-hosts-pok-ties/957536/

    While Ray has retired, Sarin and Naolekar are still in their posts. Refusing them permission, the MEA also asked Naolekar and Uttar Pradesh Lokayukta Justice Narendra Kishore Mehrotra to “resign” and “disassociate” themselves from the Asian Ombudsman Association (AOA).

    ==

    According to MEA notings dated April 20, 2011, obtained through RTI, this was the justification for the denial: “The AOA was set up in 1996 at the initiative of Pakistan with the support of China. Its Secretariat is located in Islamabad in the Pakistan Federal Ombudsman Secretariat. The website of the Association indicates that the Ombudsman of the so-called ‘Azad Jammu and Kashmir’ is a founding member of the Association…”

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    Varadarajulu Naidu, a committed nationalist with varied interests

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article3487237.ece

    P. Varadarajulu Naidu (1887-1957), whose 125th birth anniversary falls on Monday, was one of the early leaders of Tamil Nadu who had realised the power of oratory in political discourse and successfully employed it.

    In the second half of 1910, the period immediately after Mahatma Gandhi’s advent in the national scene, Naidu emerged as a powerful speaker of the Congress party in the State. He was also a distinguished labour leader, an
    eminent journalist, an ardent champion of the causes of handloom weavers, small-scale and cottage industries and a spirited advocate of interests of politically and socially disadvantaged sections of society.

    ==

    Naidu’s significant contribution to English journalism was the founding of the Indian Express in 1932, which is still functioning. Pazha Athiyaman, in his biography of Naidu, ‘Periyarin Nanbar,’ published recently by Kalachuvadu Publications, points out that Naidu could not run it even for a couple of months. [Eventually, Ramnath Goenka took over the paper].

    His devotion to the national cause was so much that he refused to pay income tax in 1922 to protest against the arrest of Mahatma Gandhi following the suspension of the non-cooperation movement. The British Government promptly attached his car and some lands in Salem.

    When he was Tamil Nadu Congress Committee president during 1924-1925, the controversy over the Tamil Gurukulam in Cheranmahadevi, run by V.V. S. Iyer, erupted. The issue at hand was the separate dining arrangements for Brahmin and non-Brahmin boys at the Gurukulam. The national leadership of the Congress party spelt out its position: as a matter of principle, it was against separation. But, Naidu and ‘Periyar’ felt that the intervention was not strong enough.
    ==
    Naidu had three daughters and six sons. His eldest son, Krishnadas, died only about 10 days ago. Three of the Congress leader’s sons had served the Armed Forces. In 1993, Mr. Dayanandan retired as a Colonel from the Army. Naidu’s son-in-law, K.L.K. Row, rose up to the level of Vice-Admiral in the Navy. Naidu’s sense of nationalism, Mr. Dayanandan notes, continues to guide the present generation of his family.

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  • http://indiatopics.wordpress.com/ manohar_T

    Why the India growth story is far from over

    Parsa Venkateshwar Rao Jr | Monday, June 4, 2012

    http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/column_why-the-india-growth-story-is-far-from-over_1697791

    Economic volatility and political turbulence may combust to produce a crisis. At the moment, the two are following parallel lines in the country and there is a possibility that this could precipitate a crisis. But it seems an unlikely outcome. The economy has slowed down in many ways but it will regain momentum sooner than later. And political confusion is not going to affect the economy except in marginal ways.That is the good news.

    ==

    The economy is still in the positive, if not comfort, zone. This has nothing much to do with the enlightened policies of Singh, finance minister Pranab Mukherjee or his predecessor P.Chidambaram. Nor is any credit due to deputy chairman of planning commission Montek Singh Ahluwalia, Rangarajan, chief economic advisor Kaushik Basu and to hundreds of talented economic experts in the government and outside. The Indian economy is running well because of the people, including the timid captains of industry and business, doughty farmers, the burgeoning and consuming, though brittle, middle class and the impatient poor who are breaking free of their trapped situation.

    The Congress party may have to decide what to do with Singh, Mukherjee and Chidambaram and who would be prime minister if there is need for reshuffling the pack in the wake of the presidential election. It is an internal problem. Will the internal bickering in the party spoil the India growth story? Many in the Congress believe that if there is trouble in the party, there will be trouble in the country. They may have to get over the grand delusion.

    Will the country turn right-wing if Narendra Modi takes over the reins of the BJP and positions the party in a leading position in the 2014 election? An authoritarian Modi will pose problems to the BJP and the NDA, but not to India. Perhaps the one lesson from the Emergency is that this country has no patience with so-called strong leaders. The BJP may continue to idolise Indira Gandhi for her strong woman tactics, but 21st century India is in no mood for this kind of political atavism. So, it is for the BJP to decide whether it wants to be a sensible right-of-centre political party or not.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Article without any substance. Waste of time.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    To each his own. It is one point of view. Take it or leave it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have left it .

    manohar_T Reply:

    chalo ek bojhaa kam ho gayaa ;-)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    what more can you expect from this congressi troll?
    The moment the sun rises, he begins cutting and pasting inane, dry, inconsequential pieces from newspapers, like boys who go round with a paste-tin in hand, pasting cinema posters on public walls.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    You are not even capable of that, given your pea-sized brain and a massive intelligence deficit. All you can do is to abuse, spewing venom and attempting to be too clever by half.

  • Anonymous

    A feminist just after the fall of Taliban rule visited Kabul and was very angry
    to see that women would walk 5 paces behind their men. A year later she
    returned and delightedly found that now men were walking 10 paces behind
    women. She asked what brought the change. Reply was – Landmines.

    Good day gentlemen.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    gr8! All our women’s activist will ban this joke now…

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    Ravi Reply:

    Who needs women, when we have you.

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  • Anonymous

    After getting treated in US at public expense , and without disclosing to the tax-payer what the disease was and whether the Health Ministry could issue a certificate that that treatment was not availabe in India , the lady has come to allege that the charges against th PM are a conspiracy.
    Who are the conspirators ? ….the CAG of India … for performing his constitutional duties and writing in his Audit Report about the losses suffered by the country due to the arbitrary manner in which coal- blocks were allocated by the PM as Coal Minister.
    the CVC of India for referring the complaint to the CBI to start a Preliminary Inquiry. …
    the others are lesser beings and to be dismissed with disdain .. Yeh log …

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    Anonymous Reply:

    According to Congress CAG and CVC are working for opposition that is why they always come up with the reports blaming ruling government
    for the huge losses. To avoid this they should sit in the opposition
    than these both institutions will start working for them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    now you know why Sonia Gandhi was hell-bent on having a Christian, Thomas, as the CVC, inspite of the fact that he was unsuitable and unqualified for the job.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Ye all Christians, you have been declared and labeled as dishonest souls having no scruples.

    Gopi Thomas, please note.

    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi is an honorary Brahmin.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Why are you cribbing?
    With your walrus mustache, you can get honorary dhobi post in RSS washing the same langoats of you know who.

    manohar_T Reply:

    You must be a shameless person (and sans any scruples) for wanting to know the private aliments of women who are not from your own immediate family. What next you wish to know about these women?

    All MPs (and also ex-MPs) are entitled to medical expenses at public (tax payer’s) expense in India and abroad. Try the Ministry of Health or the Parliament Office or file a RTI query to ferret out the details. No one wishes to know what ails Atal Behari Vajpayee (and that is how it should be), whose expenses are also borne by us.

    ‘besharmi ki bhi kuchh hadd hoti hai’.

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    Ravi Reply:

    A despicable and totally immoral query. How low can one sink?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are in India or back to London ?

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    Ravi Reply:

    I am back in the UK. Got back yesterday.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I hope you enjoyed your holidays in India. Though you could
    not make it to Dubai, but when ever I am in London I will make
    sure to meet you.

    Ravi Reply:

    That would be lovely. Would love to share a pint or two with you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Living in Dubai since many years and meeting regularly
    with Arabs even I have adopted this habit.

    We will meet – INSHAALLAH.

    Ravi Reply:

    Which habit – sharing a pint, or saying Inshaallah.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Saying Inshallah.
    Sharing a pint won’t work, we will have to share a whole bottle
    of whiskey.

    Ravi Reply:

    Weather in London at the moment favours – A jug of PIMS. Or a chilled pint of Lal Toofan.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good riddance.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen Saxenaji,

    the people of India have every right to know what ails the mataji and at what cost to the exchequer, as much as they have the right to know what ails her government. Both these rights are constitutionally guaranteed. The second, of course, can be and is enforced by the CAG, PAC etc. The first, has to be met by the speaker of the Lokasabha.

    In these times, Sonia Gandhi must be rueing the inability of herself and her party to have forced the co ontinuance of Thomas as the CVC.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Saab
    I read another interesting story in the Indian Express of today , that the MOD – CBI joint team have reported that the Tetra trucks are based on obsolete technology

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This point forms one of the planks of my arguments on an article Shekhar Gupta has written about Ge.V.K.Singh, last Saturday.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen

    MOD has gone overboard. They are not authorized to report directly to CBI. they should go through CAG, CVC, PAC,
    MMS, parliament and than finally after going through all these procesess Ms. Gandhi will take the decission. Whoever at MOD without any authority has gone directly to CBI should be held for treason.

    manohar_T Reply:

    Here is another shameless one (what else can he be), who has no respect for women’s privacy and ‘demanding’ to know their medical history.

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    Ravi Reply:

    People who have no point to make are left with only personal attacks on others as their arsenal. BVS is a perfect example of that.

    Why have an alternative set of policies when one can hope to win an election by labeling the Gov as being corrupt and frightening the Hindus with an Islamist bogy.

  • Anonymous

    Pathak,

    You had asked me earlier “Can Modi lead the election at the national level, win and then let Advani be the PM?’
    I think if Modi decides to lead the campaign than BJP has very good chance
    to form the government at center. Many will not agree with me that Modi
    is not famous and acceptable outside of his own state but my view is that
    Modi in last 5-6 years has become very famous all over India. His charisma
    will win over most of the voters who sit on sidelines. Now, wlll Modi allow Advani
    to enjoy the fruits of his -Modi’s- hard work? Or is Modi Dharmatma? Frankly
    no idea about the scale of his ambition of becoming PM. I think that though
    BJP may not declare their PM candidate but internally they will reach the
    consensus on the person who will take that chair. Will they give Advani
    one or two years to fulfill his dream before handing over the reins to the
    person who has already been decided? Or they will just ask/request Advani to retire ? Your guess is as good as mine.

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  • Anonymous

    Jairam criticises NREGA scheme;
    insists on ’skilled employment’

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/nrega-unproductive-and-creates-no-assets-says-jairam/1/199002.html

    “I do not accept that you dig a ditch,
    take out soil and call it employment. Put the soil back into the ditch. That is
    also employment… We need skilled employment,” he said adding, NREGA guarantees
    only wages, not skilled employment

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    manohar_T Reply:

    He has a point, but how do we provide skills to a person with an empty stomach?

    In practice, one may say this is pumping money into the economy without creating any assets – that is bad economics. If these people were skilled, then probably they would not need NREGA.

    Perhaps, the country needs to look at some other models so that people do not go hungry to bed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, poor need to be taken care of, but this has to stop some where.
    This scheme is against the human nature. Any dole/free money
    will make them lazy, some how they should be made to work for their
    livelihood.

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    Ravi Reply:

    This argument is often made in the UK.

    The reality does not reveal what you suggest. Whilst there are many scroungers, most other people do want to work, because the dole gives them little more than the basics. (Though basics in the UK are very different from those in India.)

    A matured society needs robust mechanisms to ensure those who are unable to work can keep their body and soul together, without the dole becoming a disincentive to work. In a country like India this is a tall order.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I was not talking about people who are unable to work. The people who are healthy and are able to work, if given money
    regularly without extracting any work from them will make them lazy.

    Ravi Reply:

    Able to work physically (that would be dis-ability allowance), or able to work due to availability of JOBS but choosing not to take one?

    Dole is known as Unemployment Benefit!!. It used to have a GOV document called UB40. A bunch of unemployed musicians from Birmingham met (30 or so years ago) while collecting their dole and formed a band. The rest I am sure you know.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do we have this unemployment benefit scheme in India ?
    I don’t think so. Recently in UP election SP announced that
    unemployed people will get some money every month. I don’t
    know whether this money is being paid out .

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    We know that leprosy patients are unable to work.

    For many a year there used to sit and beg, a female leprosy patient at the steps of Rajiv Chowk (Soon to be renamed as N V Narsima Rao Chowk) Metro station.

    How would you react if a scheme was set-up in India which provided total care to these unfortunate people?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Where did I say that these people should not be taken care of ?
    On second thought – do these people vote ? If they don’t, than why should anyone care about them.

    Ravi Reply:

    I was not suggesting that you are against these people being taken care-off, more asking what you thought and if you were aware of any National Scheme that does.

    What is the attitude of our Gov, NGOs and various religious charities, etc.

    Anonymous Reply:

    your superior knowledge about dole is nothing surprising.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Lets replace all the acrimony with a little help from UB40, one of the most memorable songs
    http://youtu.be/P-b9hzLVTcU

    Ravi Reply:

    I hold no acrimony towards Mohan. I may disagree with him, now and then. He mostly dis-agrees with me.

    But he is a gentleman.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, Jairam said a truth

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  • Anonymous

    Nothing surprising …quite a few cheer and clap when the Siciian bar maid speaks….

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    manohar_T Reply:

    If you had wished to slam the bar maid / waitress, you could have just done so. There would have been no issues.

    First wanting to know the nature of her illness and the expenses incurred at tax payer’s expense and then questioning her right to defend Dr. Manmohan Singh (how dare she does that when the tax payers pay her medical expenses, worse wanting to know the medical history, taking offence that she has chosen not to broadcast them. She is not obliged to reveal) that is what is despicable about you.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Well recognized by some one who is Mohan Bhagwat’s personal butler, responsible for tightening his LUNGOAT every morning.

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  • Anonymous

    From the other Vinod:
    If your spouse says, “Let’s go upstairs and make love, and you reply ‘It’s one or the other; I can’t do both’,”—you’ve reached it.

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  • Anonymous

    Finished washing dirty panties ?

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    Ravi Reply:

    I am surprised you could do that!!!

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Whose dirty panties did you finish washing?

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  • Anonymous

    Corruption , is not the root cause of india’s laggardness.
    As mentioned previously I am planning toi visit Milan in a fortnight, thus i am reading a bit on Milan . Here is a quote from a book on Milan
    “Even more sensational were the bribery and corruption scandals of the early 1990’s , when Judge Antonio de Pietro lifted the lid on the racketeering and bribery that was rife in politcs and business.Milan became known as TANGENTOPOLI or Bribe City.”(globetrotter page17)

    Despite all that , with only 4% of italy’s population it contributes 24% of taxes.
    It is the home of ARMANI , PRADA , VERSACE , SALATORE FERRUGAMANO and PIRELLI and high finance and industry.
    So India’s problem is not corruption , IT IS POOR EDUCATION SYSTEM , AND CRONY CAPITALISM instead of truly Enterprunial Capitalism.
    Thus we TATASKY , what is tata’s contribution in terms of technology ZILCH, same with Birla 3M , kajaria ceramics , The sugar baron maharashtrian DHOOT making TELEVISION , goidrej making fridge , THE ENTIRE INDIAN MANUFACTURING IS LIKE INDIAN HINDU MEN , “they only perform at home”

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  • Anonymous

    When Gen B C Joshi a serving Indian Army Chief died of a massive heart attack,. a lot of issues were raised in the media about the pre-existing condition of his health , and the veil of secrecy about it ,the risks for the country if illnesses are kept secret etc. When A B Vajpayee as PM was operated for replacement of his knee , the country knew all about it. When Manmohan Singh as PM went for his third heart bye-pass surgery , the country knew about and there were regular press briefings about it When PV Narasimha Rao was PM whenever he went for medical check-ups to AIIMS , there was nothing secretive about it.Whe Priya Ranjan Das Munshi , as a serving Cabinet Minister fell seriously ill and was admitted to hospital , the country knew about it and his ailment.. We routinely read about top political leaders showing themselves to be in the pink of their health otherwise, giving detailed account of their ailments while seeking bail … The question is does the country have a Right to know or not , about the health of those who occupy high public offices . The larger question is, if allowed to be kept under wraps , are there risks that the duties they are expected to discharge may suffer or get compromised. We may refer to traditions of other countries… which I believe are in favour of disclosure . In our country … there could be differing views depending on the individual in question.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    No mention of women politicians? Why?

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  • Anonymous

    @ Ravi
    I noticed that you took a pointless personal jibe at me. Now what was the reason ? Or are you in a mood to to have a retaliation.

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    Ravi Reply:

    I suggest that you read your comment and my retort to it together, then perhaps it would make sense.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    this fake Ravi comes to the blog only to spew venom and filthy garbage at others. Now that he is back, you can see an outbreak of his abusive filth spreading across the blog.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Pathak
    I am still waiting for your reply on how Rajiv gandhi is the father of Indian economic growth, reforms, trade liberaliastion and current economic power, wehn I have shown that his tenure was marked by VP Singh executing some (little) reform and Rajiv gandhi’s own budget being wishy washy , while his appointing SB Chavan who was a tradtional Congress Fm signalled that India was ore or less back to square one.
    So I would love to have your forensic analysis on why the Congress wants to forget PV Rao and IMF and want to credit a this to Rajiv, when the poor guy had actually died by then.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinoo,

    In case you did not know than allow me to tell you. Rajiv Gandhi used to maintain a diary in which he had written a 50 year plan about growth and prosperity of India. He had mentioned everything about liberalization, opening of economy, FDI, nuclear power, 2G, 3G. He did not leave
    any field uncovered . Earlier Rao and MMS jointly and now MMS with the help from Pranab Da, PC and Sibal is following the long term plan of
    Rajiv Gandhi. Whatever problems we are facing are because of 6 years of
    misrule by NDA and shenanigans of team Anna.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    hitherto, I was believing that Rajiv Gandhi was given the Bharat Ratna award for his signal contribution to the Hindu-Muslim amity by enactment of the Shah Bano constitutional amendment, with which, he had also ensured that divorcees and widows in the Muslim community would get adequate maintenance.

    I also believed that by opening the locks of the Babri-masjid-Ramjanmabhoomi temple, he ensured that Hindus too got their right to worship Ram Lalla at his birth-place in Ayodhya.

    Now I know, besides this great amendment and opening of the locks of the temple, he also wrote a diary outlining a 50year plan of development for India, ensuring that all future prime ministers would go by this book.

    Great, yaar, Mohan. You have opened my eyes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji can hardly reply. Secrecy is the watchword in the Omerta code, and Cicilian bar-maids are not exempt from the strict observation of the code.

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  • Anonymous

    It is people’s right to know what was Mrs Gandhi’s ailment, what is the status of it etc..because she is the leader of the ruling party.
    All the more important if she went to US and got the treatment on govt funds – as we read in the press, US medical treatment is unbelievably expensive; the system has shut off 30% of its own people due to the exhorbitant costs (Dr shantanu gave a number — I think it was 30-40% )

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Shame on you too. Have you no respect for women’s privacy? Please note that privacy does not end when a woman enters public life.

    If it is a people’s right, what prevents you and your types to file a RTI query.

    Rest of the reasons you have mentioned have been dealt with while reply to Praveen.

    We have three people here demanding to know medical history of a woman. How many more would like to join this ‘august’ company?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi and others here will stoop to what ever low level is possible, so long a cheap shot at the Congress is the result.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It has nothng to do with Congress. If Sushama undertakes a trip for treatment, she alsos hould eb subjected to this…

    Ravi Reply:

    But is she??

    manohar_T Reply:

    Whether it is Sushma or Sonia or your current favourite Jayalalitha or any other woman, civilised people do not intrude into other people’s (especially women’s) private matters.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Are you Ok with medical history of men? IS this an exemption for women only?

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    manohar_T Reply:

    Only if they themselves alone decide to make the information public.

    Every individual’s privacy (that includes medical history) is to be respected. Being in public life or not is irrelevant.

  • Anonymous

    I may be an “honorary” Brahmin– Yuvraj is a self declared Brahmin! (is that his audacity or stupidity??)

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    Ravi Reply:

    In my opinion both are stupid.

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    manohar_T Reply:

    I may be an “honorary” Brahmin

    That is to be seen – the honorary part. As of now you, being a Christian, has been disgraced by your friend here.

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  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS+++++ BREAKING NEWS
    ____——————————____________

    Pakistan, an Islamic nation, which has a very defective type of democracy, still boasts of a supreme court which is strictly neutral in matters of religion and army.

    Now, this supreme court has suspended the membership of the parliament of Rehman Malik, the Home Ministewr of the country!

    And in our country, an Italian born lady, holding an Italian passport, all but became the prime minister of the country, but for a vigilant president!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Ravi Reply:

    Breaking News

    This is nothing but some bar humbug of a Genuine Hindu Saffron Terrorist.

    Who wishes to destroy India’s secular democracy and to replace it with a Hindu chauvinistic government which reduces the minorities into second class citizens.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Not quite… if you trust Dawn…

    http://dawn.com/2012/06/04/sc-suspends-maliks-senate-membership/

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    Ravi Reply:

    Do you?

    Anonymous Reply:

    This has been reported by a few others too, not everyone could be spreading a rumor.

    Ravi Reply:

    I was not saying the report is wrong. Where did I say that. I did’nt

    My comment was on BVS’s warped motives.

    manohar_T Reply:

    “And in our country, an Italian born lady, holding an Italian passport,
    all but became the prime minister of the country, but for a vigilant
    president’

    Do you know (you will not, being an ignoramus) that foreign passport holders are not permitted to contest elections and hold public office.

    Have the guts (that too be must be missing) to file a case against her for conteesting parliamentary elections not oncem but twice, instead of spreading of falsehoods, lies, untruths, innuendos a la RSS style propaganda here.

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    Ravi Reply:

    He is a pathological liar.
    I know!!

    An RSS propagandist.

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  • Anonymous

    The new blog is on.

    @ Pathak

    i will wait for your answer there

    @ Mohan and Shenoy

    Good jokes. I enjouyed myself on this. Still wondering why Congress is afraid of calling MMS and Rao as the reformers.

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  • Anonymous

    Finally Vinod Sharma has decided to tell the Congress the truth that he knew all along, Writing is on the Wall. Next 2 months !!

    You made enough from this Govt and know very well supporting any further will only damage your core constituency and you weighted the option of damage/loss to you business of telling the truth and future continued gain of telling truth.

    Smart Chameleon Businessman.
    I will not be surprised after 2 years you doing exactly opposite of praising Modi and Game Changer for India and best thing that happened for India since Indepnedence.

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  • es

    Thank god for the article, finally Modi after 30-35 years in public life gets someone to give him a pathbreaking blinding insight. I bet in last 35 years it has not occurred to modi ever that 70% of India’s popn is in rural parts. Sunita – how come you are so intelligent and insightful. This is really the smartest article you have written. I have one piece of advice for you – I think this was such an intelligent article that it feels like you have peaked. Nothing you ever do from this point onwards will be more intelligent than this. You should retire right at this moment. What a resplendent career you have had. So happy for you!!

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    ashish Reply:

    very well said .

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  • Anonymous

    This is a sad attempt at equating Modi with Rahul. Not expected from Sunita.

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  • guest

    Sunita I think you need a long break from writing. This article is pathetic.

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  • Amit S

    Write should get off Congress Payorll.

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  • nm

    I am sorry but is this some kind of a school essay competition winner? Hardly any material to feature in HT Blogs!!! I think nowadays putting Modi in your article is the means to gain readership. And goddamn it worked on me! :P

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  • ranks

    Every 30 Minutes an Indian farmer commits suicide…

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    ranka Reply:

    but videshi technologist and desi leaders have found a way to transfer blame to server their commercial interest.

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  • Anonymous

    Another article that shows how grounded our mentality is in the bullock-cart age. Dear author, even though 70 percent of India resides in villages, the villages are not the villages you have in your mind. Village is full of youth who have email accounts, read newspapers, watch cable TV, have cell phones, go to cities frequently….. talk of investing their farm income in mutual funds…. Please open your eyes… do not remain stuck in doordarshan mindset.

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  • Jai-Hanuman

    In 2014 election, all the Indians would vote for “None of the above” option in the ballot box. So, effectively no party would get any majority. You need to either form a coalition govt combining all the Indian Parties or redo the election. It would be an eye opener for all, a great failure of the Indian democracy.

    That would be the turning point for the success of India, India would rise thereafter and never turning back.

    Voting is indeed a fundamental right which should not be wasted. Must participate in election. But, it’s within your right to decide whether to choose any party or no party.

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  • kanishka

    Late Lal Bahadur Shashtri, the 2nd PM of India and Mr Modi, the next PM of India, both are son-of-soil, had humble beginning from a poor family of clerk and shopkeeper and both had education in government-run local language schools. Both left home to serve the higher cause at the age of 17, one for the freedom movement and other for spiritual movement. Shashtriji is considered one of the best and honest PM of India who, in his brief term, guided India to its first victory in a war with Pakistan in 1965. Both worked their way up with sheer hard work and understanding the problems of masses and used HINDI/local language only as their medium of communications with the masses in the cities and villages. Like Modi, Both were very honest and incorruptible. MODI HAS THE HONESTY OF LB SHASHTRI, FIRMNESS OF SARDAR PATEL AND ORATORY OF VAJPAI. THREE-IN-ONE

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    I agree completely with you.

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    TMM Reply:

    There is a major difference between Shastri n Modi. One had his hands clean and is a role model for all citizens while the other has his hands stained with blood and will be be behind bars shortly..

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    Kurkur Reply:

    Shasthri was killed by his own party.That makes the difference.

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  • Khalid

    Sunita is living 10 years behind, perhaps she has not visited any Indian village in last 6 yo 7 years. She should know that Information technology along with cable TV has covered the divide. Barring few remote areas most of the villages are as informed as cities.

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  • RV

    Seems Congress has lost faith in Indian journalists capabilities to take care of their Hate-Modi Bait-Modi campaign, despite of their 24×7x365 efforts. Now, they are buying help from alpha-beta learning foreign journos. AND, Sitting in Nepal Sunita what you know about Indian villages, do you know where is Gohana or Talala?

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  • S.P.DUGGAL

    It is quite clear that Hindustan Times is brazenly anti Modi .It is not a fair journalism. It is not Modi who is hogging various places but it the organisation who invite him to give a talk. Why other CM have not been invited?It is no consequence whether the person has been invited by the foreign countries but what matter whether his own countrymen admire him.Wake up your conscious and not misrepresent facts…

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  • Deep

    If Sunita was paying attention to Modi’s speeches, she would not have written such hogwash. Mr. Modi, in many of his speeches, talks about empowerment of villages and does not fail to mention that he regularly spends time in villages of Gujarat.

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  • Dr.V.Mahadevan

    Now that Rahul Baba has scored a ZERO in his one meeting with CII whereas Modi has been vowing audiences in DElhi, Kolkata, and of course Ahmedabad, The writer wants him and of course the Dimpled Baba to address folk in rural India. While Rahul keeps going in and out of folk’s huts as happened in UP, Modi will address proper meetings and trump Rahul again and again., you just watch.

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  • Anubhav

    Rahul Had been doing Nautankis dramatics. hiriing journalists like you to write in newspappers that Rahul has spent night at Dalits house in Village and then getting his photos clicked. What has happen in UP State elections, congress lost miserably. Modi on the other hand has demonstrated his will and intention to develop his state and empower his people. The fact is this publication can never praise Modi

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    ada khan Reply:

    very true…needless to say how beautifully Modi has developed the Gujrat.

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  • ashamed congressi

    Lol…..now such a foolish will come here and blog about Modiji????? What has this HT became????? We all know you are congress mouth piece….stop this nonsense…i fail to understand…why you bunch of paid media are not getting what is the mood of the nation and we all are not fools…please use little brain to understand this….and please do us one favor…STOP bull$itting here!

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  • Abu Ahmed

    MP is ruled by a BJP regime and that govt is functioning more efficiently than Modi’s govt. But why is Modi the darling of all extremists and RSS-Shakha trained Hindus? Why, he killed thousands of Muslims. So he is the darling of the middle class India and this class forms the biggest consumer market for the corporates – therefore the corporates will not seek to antognozise end-consumer of their products. However, corportes, media, townspeople cannot bring HumptyModity to power at the center – its the villagers and they are still peace-loving people of the country.

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    Seth Reply:

    “killed thousands of Muslims” – Are you sure its thousands and not hundreds of thousands?

    A friend’s friend’s colleague of mine went and asked Modi’s wife’s aunty’s nephew’s friend’s colleague; even today, everyday, he drinks a glass full of chilled Muslim blood (with ice cubes and rock salt) at his dinner time. Ever noticed his red cheeks.

    What more, RSS Sanghis themselves transform into mosquitoes (when they are not rioting) and suck Muslim-only blood in the night. That is what they mainly teach in their shakhas, I’ve seen their voodoo from a distance at 5 AM in a park while I was out for my sacred duty of returning earth’s debt in a more nature-friendly way .

    How can such a vampire become India’s PM when we have technologically sound (I mean robust not the speak sound) MMS 3.0 and his holiness Shri Rahul Ji with an IQ of 786 available to be the next PM of India. All Rahul Ji needs to do is that go and eat a meal at all of those 70% Indian villagers house for one time and they will be mesmerized by his persona and fan him while feeding him with their hands as if an adolescent Lord Krishna has blessed them with “saakshaat darshan”.

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    ashish Reply:

    marvelous, simply marvelous

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    David Salmon Reply:

    Many days later, I see, I vainly post a reply:
    The fact remains that he has blood on his hands. The police did not interfere with the blood-letting until the third day, when the Centre and Modi called a halt. Close members of his political group actively stirred up pogroms against the Muslims. He has sheltered them and never disowned them. Such a man is not worthy of public trust.
    imho

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amit-Shukla/100000758179169 Amit Shukla

    so jokers have started giving insights now great work go on wish you luck that you get some from 100 crore kitty of congress which is revised to 5000 crore for jokers like you

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  • Anonymous

    What a ****. All the water harvesting schemes in Gujrat which is replenisihing ground water in Gujrat are for city people. The country roads and 24 hr power does not help farmers. 80% increase in agriculture in last 10 years happened in cities. Even the 108 ambulance scheme does not help villagers? All the agriculural universities, soil teasting programs are hambug. The Govt workers camping in villages for 3 weeks in summer are all going for picnics? This newpaper has lost its sanity.

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