Self-appraisal: what’s Beni’s score?



The day the Congress vice president Rahul Gandhi mooted a self-appraisal system for the state party leaders, I wondered what would be the parameters on which they would be judged. I thought public conduct, including their gift of the gab, would certainly be one of the factors for ranking. But no, perhaps the rating would be on the ‘foulest of language that you can speak’ and the ‘penchant for raking up controversies.’

If union minister Beni Prasad Verma has to be appraised, what would be his score then? One doesn’t have to turn back the calendar more than a year. His ‘exemplary’ speeches during state elections are enough to rate him poor.

The other day while addressing a rally in Gonda, the minister launched a slander campaign in filthiest of language against his one-time buddy Mulayam Singh Yadav whom he accused of having links with terrorists. He is ‘lootera’ and a criminal. Few days later he repeated his charges on the floor of parliament with Mulayam paying him back in the same coin by asking him his ‘aukat’. The Congress quickly expressed regret for Beni’s statements not because of their love for Mulayam but because their minister had chosen a wrong time to take on the SP leader. The survival of UPA II in office now heavily rests on Mulayam after DMK support withdrawal.

However, everyone perhaps knows that Mulayam despite his anger would not withdraw support on such a trivial issue but wait for the right time and the right issue to topple the government. Nonetheless, the issue here is not the survival of the government but the language politicians speak and the Congress plan to hold annual appraisals.

The Congress and the BJP were known for maintaining some dignity of language but of late they are also crossing the fine line. I met a Congress MLA the other day at the airport and during discussion on some political issue, he retorted with, ‘Aap logo ke deemag kharab ho gaye hain, kya aapko kuch samajh nahin ata’. I was shocked to hear him speak like this as till the other day he visited office almost every day pleading to publish the party’s press note that he carried to office.

Perhaps, Rahul would do better by getting the leaders groomed first before allowing them to self-appraise. As if foul play was not enough that now one has to bear their foul language too!

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  • Anonymous

    Fortune favours the brave.

    By carrying out a daring attack on Indis’s integrity on 26/11, Pakistan has shown that it is BRAVE. Manmohan Singh, on the other hand, is handicapped by failures on all fronts and can be considered to be the opposite of BRAVE-pussilanimous, timid, easily scared, always looking over his shoulder to see whether Digvinash Singh is plotting to overthrow him. With Shekhar Gupta’s help, he has planted the fear in our UN-BRAVE primeminister that he can be couped any time.

    Therefore, peace between two unequal nations is a non-starter.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There is some problem in posting to the blog. ppup frp “cpitcha” springs up blocking entry.

    I agree. No discussion at Govt to govt level.
    The only item that the Govt should have on its plate vis-a-vis Pak is concerned is strategies for denuking that country. everything else should be considered after that, and after Pakisatn sorts out who governs Pak, who is the legitimate party who can negotiaate

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There is a problem posting to the blog.

    A pop up box for Captcha appears and forces you to enter something; however, even after an entry, it does not allow you to post to the blog

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  • Anonymous

    No peace with Pakistan unless they act on Mumbai terror masterminds.

    All this talk of improving relations is their ploy to ease the visa norms for Pakistanis. We also hear that Pakistan would bring FDI in our country? Seriously!!

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  • Anonymous

    India has so many other pressing priorities, especially with the slowing economic growth, the worsening European financial situation, oil price impact due to US pressures on Iran etc, etc.

    It will be a total dereliction of duty and responsibility if our government spends an iota of energy on the false promise of peace and hope with Pakistan. Hope is not a strategy; Pakistan is not worth the time..

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    Dr Mishra Reply:

    very well said Shoeb. I can tell you here from UK, the recession in Europe will last at least 5 more years. India needs must diversify its economy. Already our hosp here has junked its contract with an Indian company that did all our medical letters and bought a cheaper voice recognition system.

    I like Zardari, his 10% past and playboy character should not bother India. I cannot think of any other Pakistani leader who has genuinely pined more for peace with India

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  • Anonymous

    This is 267th time Pakistan has claimed that they want to resolve everything through
    peaceful dialogue. Within few days they will go back 267th time on their word.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    You are right. “their” word — Who are “they”? That has been the main issue – Who governs Pakistan?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    That is the main problem, even in Pakistan no one knows who is governing them.
    Army, Zardari, Gilani, US, Mullas or someone else.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am experiencing problems in entering my comments…

  • Anonymous

    Since the topic of Pakistan has come up, let me tell you guys the joke on Pakistan.
    Pakistanis won’t like this but kya karoon aadat se majboor hoon.

    After having 15th child a Pakistani couple decided that that was enough. The husband
    went to his doctor and told him that he and his wife don’t want any more children.
    Doctor told him that there was a procedure called vasectomy that would fix the problem
    but was very expensive. A less costly way was to go home get a large firecracker, light it
    put it in a Pepsi can, then hold the can near his ear and count to 10. Husband said
    ‘ how is this possible, do you think I am an idiot’ doctor told him ‘trust me, it will do the job’
    Man went home lit a firecracker and put it in a can. He held the can next to his ear and
    began to count with his fingers 1 2 3 4 5, at which point he paused and placed the can
    between his legs so he can continue counting on his another hand. You all can imagine what
    would have happened afterwards.
    This procedure has been approved by the Health department of Pakistan.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It will help exports from sivakasi of “****’ brand (murga chaap) firecrackers !

    Long live trade

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  • Anonymous

    Pakistani’s are not trustworthy. They don’t even accept that ISI was involved in 26/11. David headley has given plot of Mumbai attack plan in so much detail that no proof is needed that Pak’s army’s serving major and ISI was involved in attack. They have not brought justice and perpetrators are roaming freely in that country. Till they don’t hand over Hafiz Saeed, Maj. Iqbal , Sajid mir, Lakhvi and Dawood and other terrorists, they can’t be trusted. No govt. agency in world kill innocent people of other country.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zain-Uddin/100002343885603 Zain Uddin

    well the question is can world and pakistani people trust India for all it’s wrong doing ,

    2007- Your Serving Army officer burnt down more then 60 pakistani in Samjotha Express train in Indian Punjab
    You guys sending sucide bombers using Afganistan lawless trerroritry with Amricans blessing

    Can any indian expalin this ………………

    1947-India violated British India Independence Act and invaded Muslim Majority sates of Kashmir which suppose to join Pakistan as per this pact
    India this illegal Act leads to 1948, 65 & 99 war

    1971—India once again violated UN Charter and interfered in Pakistan and invaded in East Pakistan which leads to 71 War and creation of B’desh.

    1984—India once again violated UNO Charter and invaded line of Control and occupied Pakistan land in Sia Chin Glacier and destroy this beautiful roof top of the world, Indian army not only dumping it’s chemical or nuclear waste but also using chemical to melt down the Glacier which is costing big time Indus River system in subcontinent, which has affected weather pattern but also agriculture land both side of boarder, Indians must accept and apologies for this environmental disaster and withdraw it’s forces before 1984 position, other wise it’ll tiger one more nuclear standoff

    India- once again violating Indus water treaty and steeling water and building dams on Pakistani rivers

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Another bigoted, Madrassa studied, denialist, history killer Pakistani. World teach another history and **** teach another. No doubt people in that country killing each other. lol. Its possible that a donkey can argue better than a Pakistani. So response to their rhetoric, repeated rant should be, looooooooooool.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well Sir…the question is will Pak remain what it is today, once US leaves Afghanistan ? And also Is Kayani relevant today after Abbatabad, Bannu jial break and above all failure in North Wazirstan.

    With Haqqanis, Pak Taliban and strategic assets like Saeed Hafiz around …Pak should focus on its very existence first. India too should look at Pak through “US Exit” scenario. In that context Kayanis has no relevance.

    As far the elaborate list, date wise you have stated sorry to say you have no idea about history e.g. your Army is stealing money meant for you…check with Shah Mahmood Qureshi your ex FM, who has stated on record.

    Finaly do not copy India you cannot reach the super power that India is. And focus on “US Exit”..disucss that on your channels.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    where are the regular pak specialist bloggers? rajeev,balwinder,dr mishra?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Zain … a mistake in my earlier post, I meant your Army is stealing WATER meant for you…check with Shah Mahmood Qureshi your ex FM, who has stated on record

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zain-Uddin/100002343885603 Zain Uddin

    Well the question is can world and Pakistani people trust India for all it’s wrong doing,

    2007- Your Serving Army officer burnt down more then 60 Pakistani in Samjotha Express train in Indian Punjab
    You guys sending suicide bombers in Pakistan using Afghanistan lawless trerroritry and Americans blessing like what you’ve done with Srilanka, LTTE Suciders supported and trained by Indians has destroy this beautiful island, but Pakistan is not SriLanks you guys know that, will cost you big time this misadventure

    Can any Indian explain this………………?

    1947-India violated British India Independence Act and invaded Muslim Majority sates of Kashmir which suppose to join Pakistan as per this pact
    India this illegal Act leads to 1948, 65 & 99 war

    1971—India once again violated UN Charter and interfered in Pakistan and invaded in East Pakistan which leads to 71 War and creation of B’desh.

    1984—India once again violated UNO Charter and invaded line of Control and occupied Pakistan land in Sia Chin Glacier and destroy this beautiful roof top of the world, Indian army not only dumping it’s chemical or nuclear waste but also using chemical to melt down the Glacier which is costing big time Indus River system in subcontinent, which has affected weather pattern but also agriculture land both side of boarder, Indians must accept and apologies for this environmental disaster and withdraw it’s forces before 1984 position, other wise it’ll tiger one more nuclear standoff

    India- once again violating Indus water treaty and steeling water and building dams on Pakistani rivers

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  • Anonymous

    @Zia Uddin , Pakistan is becoming quite PERIPHERAL to india’s global view and reach.IT IS IN PAKISTAN’S INTEREST TO SEEK A RAPPROACHMENT WITH INDIA.
    Knowning how an islamic mind works , that is unlikely to happen , for it is ALWAYS JOSH(emotion) GETS THE BETTER OF HOSH(senses/rationality).
    Then PAKISTAN IS HAPPY TO BECOME A NORTH KOREA OF INDIAN SUBCONTINENT

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  • Anonymous

    Guys who cares about pakistan , MORE IMPORTANT IS THE WICKEDNESS OF THE INDIAN MEDIA AS WAS APPARENT IN THE SINGHVI ******** CD.
    The STONY SILENCE is breathtaking in wickedness.
    Now the GADDAR NDTV is trying to portray, it as prying into personal lives.
    WHY SINGHVI EPISODE IS IMPORTANT
    1. This is the same guy who was lecturing BJP after the karnataka porngate scandal,
    This is a married man WHO HAS TWO BOYS AGED 27 AND 24.
    Vijay Khanna EAT YOUR WORDS ABOUT WESTERN DECADENCE.
    2. After carefully analysing the CD , few things are clear.
    THERE WAS A MIDDLEMAN(his voice can be heard)
    Manu Singhvi knew all along that the BHET(gift) was there for him to be savoured.
    HE DID NOT WASTE TIME IN IDLE CHAT , QUICKLY DROPPED HIS PANTS.
    If that CD is MORPHED , then entire gujrat riot WAS MORPHED.
    Then he goes and bribes his driver and gets him to file affadavit saying it is doctored.
    HAD IT BEEN ENGLAND THE DRIVER GOES TO JAIL FOR PERJURY and singhvi FOR BRIBING WITNESS.
    IT IS NOT A PERSONAL MATTER , IT IS A MATTER OF NATIONAL SECURITY.
    If a middle aged lawyer (the name is available on the net) can get him to drop his pyjama for the sake of a judge’s post IMAGINE WHAT CHINA CAN DO , BLACKMAIL HIM TO GIVE AWAY ALL THE POLICY MAKING DECISIONS IN ADVANCE.
    In UK LORD BROWNE , THE CEO OF BP (a 100 billion company) , a jew , WAS SWIFTLY FORCED TO RESIGN WHEN IT WAS FOUND OUT HE WAS HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH A 26YR OLD MALE PROSTITUTE.
    This was a relationship , and Lord Browne was gay and a batcelor.
    Yet given the SENSITIVITY and the RESPONSIBILTY the post carries , HE WAS SWIFTLY BOOTED OUT.
    PERPETUALLY COLONISED CASTE RIDDEN BACKWARD INDIAN MINDSET WHICH is manifest in the Indian media PORTRAYS SINGHVI ******** CD as just a personal affair.
    A PLEA TO MY FELLOW COUNTRYMEN , rise up above all your differences , KICK CONGRESS TO THE DUSTBIN OF HISTORY FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Much as I hate to admit… Shan you are right on this.

    I am ashamed of the Congress and our country’s judiciay for attempting to sweep this Ghahgra mein halchal scam,

    You are right that the guy could have been blackmailed by Pakistan or CHina or 2g Contractors.

    The matter must be probed and the driver checked out. In case he has been purchased, then the purchaser needs punishment.

    Unfoertunately the Hindusta times did not even carry this news in today’s paper !!!

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  • Anonymous

    MANGALAM
    I is back!!! I was just waiting to be remembered by my fan club. And there are 4 Pakistan speialists, I, Rajeev, Mishraji and Rajiiv.
    There is also allegedly a Pak resident here, goes by name of Ravi . Hehe
    I am just reading, recuvering fro stone surgery, not keen on writing

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  • Anonymous

    Zain welcome to Indian blog. I am leader here, everyone pl u be polite to him.

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  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~~ WHY IS THE HT SILENT about the CONGRESS GHAGRA MEIN HALCHAL SCAM??????????? ~~~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————

    The Hindustan Times has a glorious history. And for me the paper of MK Gandhi, BG Verghese, Khushwant SIngh and our Vinod Sharma.

    Now all these guys were closely assosciated with the COngress, before disillusionment. And Shri VInod Sharma, is the guy who is still with the COngress on the extreme end. But then despite him being the total COngress defender, he still manages to get us all here– friends, opponents and even trolls like me.

    So let me ask the political editor, Shri Sharma.

    Sir, a huge huge Ghagra mein halchal scam occured where a driver was blckmailing a powerful politico. Where there were chances that judgeship was nbeing bartered for pleasure. Where we the aam aadmi of India felt that the santity of the premises of the court– our mandir and masjid– was being violated for fornification.

    In this context– when the TOI, the Indian Express, the Hindu– all gave this front page top headline– why is the HT silent??????????????????????????????????

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    Anonymous Reply:

    you reply to Zain Uddin if rajeev,drmishra not available. why r u silent ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Because Singhvi is a family friend of Bhartiyas ( owners of HT) same Marwari clan. Editors after Verghese were always political appointee by late KK Birla. KK babu as he was known to HT staff. Infact there was/is editor Dua who used to be a permanent fixture at Birla House.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Okkkkkk !! Is that the secret? I’ll ask VInod Sharma ji on behalf of us bloggers… the aam aadmi of India…

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  • Anonymous

    THIS IS HOW BJP CAN LIT A FIRE UP THE ARSE OF CONgress .
    Get somebody to file a suit against the DRIVER of ******** Singhvi, for PERJURY.
    He says it is Doctored. It is a lie. LET THE COURT APPOINT AN INDEPENDENT EXPERT TO ANALYSE THE CD. Dhudh Ka Dhudh Pani Ka Pani.
    DRAG SINGHVI INTO IT , FOR REACHING OUT OF COURT SETTLEMENT OR BRIBING AND THEN SHOUTING IT IS DOCTORED.That is also PERJURY.
    THE CASE WILL GO ON FOR MONTHS , ALL THE FACTS WILL COME INTO THE FORE , the driver will sing like a CANARY, SINGHVI’S KAMA SUTRA positions in THAILAND will also have to be revealed by the DRIVER AS HE HAS PREVIOUSLY CLAIMED.
    TIME FOR CHAUTHA RITUALS FOR CONgress party.
    JAI HIND

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Post Script : It is not out of court settlement as it has been touted and that SCUM BAG kasmiri brahmin KATJU being a lawyer has swallowed it.(SHOWS THE STANDARD OF LEGAL PROFESSION)
    Out of court settlement is WHEN SINGHVI HAS HARMED THE DRIVER , here it is reverse , IT IS BRIBE PLAIN AND SIMPLE , any MORON can make that out.
    Also that “overambitious” undersatisfied Shoma mare(Shoma choudhuri of Tehelka) needs her bottom spanked. She is denigrating SOCIAL MEDIA for lack of editorial finesse. THAT IS THE VERY REASON SOCIAL MEDIA IS THE GREATEST GIFT TO MANKIND , TOTAL FREEDOM , SATYAM SHIVAM SUNDARAM

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  • Anonymous

    @ Zain

    I think your grienviences are make belive mostly.

    You guys should learn form India and stop thinking of yourself as an appendage of some mythical Arab culture.

    Your ruelrs have made you an enemy of the world. Every country from US to UK to Iran To Afghanistan to Inida to the arc till Japan does not trust you as they think you can only backstab while smiling from the face. China will only keep you asa nauker to achieve its own goals.

    I think unless Paksitan recognises its duplicity, its fake conspiracy theories, its dastardly culture of killing or converting non Muslims– it is going to be a failed state.

    You can become a good world citizen by starting a movemnt against forced conversion of Hindu girls or the killings of Christains, SIkhs and Ahemadiyyaa…

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  • Anonymous

    What message do such CDs give to the youth of India?

    The youth of India is our future. From Mumbai to Manipur and kashmir to Kanyakumari. From the wretched lands where Naxals want to mislead them saying that the rulers are corrupt and you can only get jobs by paying bribe, to the hallowed hallways of Delhi Undiversity where the young are embarking on corporate careers.

    What is the message the youth gets from such episodes? That jobs will easily go to the people willing to bribe using foul means? The villagers will wonder as the naxals entice them…

    That in our culture everything can be fixed? The young will learn this as they embark into the corporate world…

    All these are serious issues, which we must all ponder over.

    I wish Vinodji has a separate blog on the impact on the youth by such happenings.

    Sanjayji your valuable comments on how the youth are taking this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Please let this issue rest. It is inconvenient for the people on the other side of the political divide to get involved here if we keep on discussing this issue and this place is no fun without them.

    The budget session of the parliament has begun today. There are some important bills lined up and then there is presidential election scheduled for July.

    Let’s hope that the print and electronic media excercises the same restraint in similar stories in future.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    I agree that we need a counterpoint.

    But the bigger issue is to take the whole thing to a logical conclusion. Till now we have been drowne3d by singular and boring cries of Modi Moid rape rape 24/7. Now such a dastardly truth is out, why should we spare the UPA since there are very huge issues involved

    a) Misuse of court premises for fornification in the land of gr8 lawyers like Gandhi, Nehru and patel— all COngressis mind you

    b) Misuse of position for offering judgeship. Can there be anything more sordid than this? The youth of India are like flowers. What is the message we send to their tender minds?

    I think all the people who support the COngress need not be ashamed as if they have done this act. They should rather ask the COngress to hold the correct enquiries to get hold of the real story.

    Sorry Ishwar. This is a battle for India. I refuse to be Prithviraj Chauahn and pardon Mohammad ghori.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Singhvi’s story apart – do you seriously believe the youth in India is not getting this message yet ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    yes, the youth has already got the message, loud and clear.

    Abhishek Zingvi has only etched the message in stone by his shameless sex act inside the supreme court.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy Uncle,
    Youth today is much smarter than your and my generation may want to think. They have internalised the message already. Singhvi episode hardly adds to their wisdom.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh

    Such episodes make our nation and its ethics fall lower and lower. We need to punish the guilty to show that we mean business.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree with you on punishing the guilty part, not the ethics part. Reasoning being – there is already so much s**t floating around – this episode hardly adds to it. (Oh my, we are agreeing on something – feel free to distribute sweets :-) ).
    p.s. : A personal observation – you appear to be maintaining fairly long hours in the night – if you are training physically in the morning (jogging , work-out etc.) make sure you adequate sleep the night before. Chronic sleep depravation can lead to several problems.

    Anonymous Reply:

    bhai u fly kite in empty sky nicely.jai hind.

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  • Anonymous

    in a week this blog is packed with 2000 comments. one pakisthani comes, attacks indians, but bloggers here sleep or purrrr..go crack jokes, laugh he he, write poems. know ur worth u all poooosies.jai hind.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    More aptly you could’ve said……
    “So gaye kya Saare Nambi Pambi Hindu kahin ke….” ;-)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    MAHESH,

    you know too well namby pamby suits pseudo seculars like you and your congressi troll friend.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,
    So feel free to shed away your Nambi Pambi outfit and be real Trishul brandishing Hindu.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting Article on US housing bubble.
    Author makes a forceful argument tracing the cause to lowering the risks for lenders unlike several others who mostly categorised the whole affair as being consumer driven (something akin to Tulip mania).
    Read on at :
    http://news.firedoglake.com/2012/04/23/setting-the-record-straight-the-housing-bubble-lie/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh

    Yes, a very interesting article. There must have not been much regulations in place for the system to go haywire.

    Has there been a similar bubble in the real estate sector in India? IMO, in a round-about way and may be at a lower level. It seemed some few years back that there was no tomorrow. Greed does tend to have unsatiated appetite.

    The reason is not far to seek. The lenders here (Banks) are subject to greater control by the RBI and issuing guidelines and prioritising the sectors where the funds are to be deployed. Most of the big banks being public sector helped to make them adhere.

    So there was no mob craziness to ‘buy’ all the tulips in India.

    Of course, there seemed to a be ‘fraud’ of another kind. The developers and the builders overstating (future!) value of the lands on which they wished to build castles and sell. With ‘guarantees’ in place, the banks and (public as shareholders) fell into a deep well. I do not know how much NPAs the banks have vis-a-vis real estate. The public surely seem to have suffered by fancy premiums for the slice of the cake. The promoters surely laughed all the way to their own palaces. Perhaps now we all seem to living in a more real ‘estate’ world. Correct me if I am wrong.

    There were bubbles in other sectors too during the last 15-20 years. Airlines, DotCom, Malls.

    If one eats too much greedily, one adds weight making one immobile, as simple as that.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    You are right in your analysis of the article.

    In the Indian context – banks couldn’t go overboard (in lending to consumers) because of the RBI regulations but the big developers still managed to make money out of this situation (by inflating the value of their land bank/proposed projects). Is there no regulation there?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar

    I am not sure whether the surveyors are regulated, are bound by any code of conduct / practice and more important how stringent is the enforcement of the above, unlike the Accountants and Company Secretaries.

    Having said that there are always the black sheep among the professionals, who for a consideration would even ‘certify’ that the earth is flat.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    I hope your wife and your son enjoyed their stay
    here at Dubai .

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes Mohan,

    They had a wonderful time. They loved their stay in Dubai more than the week they had in London which even included a WWE show in O2 Arena for the kid.

    The hospitality extended by you and your family exceeded our expectations. Aalok and Mrs Ramchandani spent their valuable time on the day of their arrival with them and took them around the city. What really touched was an invitation to join you at the dinner at home – absolutely overwhelming!!

    My son loved your house and my wife was delighted to have Mrs Ramchandani for company.

    Now, we are waiting to host you once you or someone from your family would be visiting Delhi. And, we sincerely hope that it won’t be long before we get that opportunity.

    Thanks once again!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Thanks, will let you know whenever I plan
    to visit Delhi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,
    Agree with you that some anecdotes around here do point to real estate bubble. More widely seen in Tier-2 and Tier-3 cities (Nasik, Nagpur etc). A little curious – Mumbai (especially central suburbs such as Thane , Mulund ) appears to be witnessing more transactions for “investment” purpose , is it your observation as well ?
    Just a gut feel – a sizeable chunk of the money chasing real estate appears to be black money, you see it that way too ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh

    There always has been the black money component in real estate business. Today, at least from the viewpoint of taxes and levies on the transactions, black money does not make sense – the taxes, levies and stamp duties are charged on the market rates in the locality (and not on the declared value in the sale documents). The Government has its own updated ready reckoner for all the areas.

    Moreover, in many honest companies like Tata Housing, and Godrej to name a few – everything is above board.

    I am not sure how many of the transactions are for investment purposes and how many for actual use.

    The bubble I was referring to is more applicable to the very high end of the market. Now everybody is not a King(fisher) of Good Times to spread his money (own or borrowed) on dream homes, which you may use for 12 hours in a year. Such houses only give bragging rights to the servants and the caretakers.

    Even the house to beat all other houses – the Antilla does not have a permanent residents. The Ambanis have been told that it is inauspicious – vastu shastra and/or feng shui are the culprits. India and China on the same page?

    Regarding Thane and Mulund, I believe they offer a double benefit – affordability and yet being part of the glamorous city of Bombay. With more and more offices moving away (blame it on the computerisation / Internet and travel woes in super-dense crush load in locals and buses) from SoBo (South Bombay for uninitiated) to BKC, Vashi, Belapur, Thane, etc. – the attraction of main city has dwindled. The SoBo would probably be home to banking and financial services sectors only – where they ought to be. Even Hindustan Unilever have moved to Andheri, so have many others. In most cases, the back offices of many companies have moved away, even to other cities. The balance sheet will not look prettier if it is prepared sitting in an office costing Rs 40000+ per sq.ft. On the contrary, it will make a dent.

  • Anonymous

    Mahesh,

    I am posting the reply here because I am unable to do it against your post.
    I did not see anything new in this article. This was evident from Aug-Sep 2008
    when the crises started. Banks in US lend money to the people to buy homes
    knowing very well that they do not have enough income to repay. These loans
    were then packaged, re packaged, re- re packaged and were sold to other banks,
    Investment house and hedge funds. No body in these entities did their due diligence
    or if they did, they chose to ignore the paying capacity of the original borrower.
    Things were running smoothly as long as everyone was holding these loans in their books.
    When one such entity decided to call back their loan, all the hell broke loose and that is
    when the real problem came out in open.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely right.

    I find it strange that this article appeared yesterday – these facts have been far too well known to those who cared since much longer. Even a kid with no finance background could see through all of this.

    Thankfully, we had the RBI as the regulator in India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Which browser do you use?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I was at home at that time and was using Safari on IPad . Now here in office I am using internet explorer which seems to work
    fine.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    For desktops, the best browser on the market is

    FireFox (current version 12) – Freeware.

    Here is the download link page. Scroll down your operating system and language and download.

    http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    With the Sub-prime crisis the larger part of narrative has looked at the problem starting from the housing side. The author here argues – it started other way round. With the securitisation of loans – the lenders themselves were freed off the lending risks. This large amount of lending in turn found its way inside the housing market (Notice how the Countrywide’s whistleblower anecdote fits nicely in this model). So, in a sense it was debt heating the housing market. But again, I tend to agree with you somewhat that this point of view is not entirely fresh. Just that it has been much less pre-vailing.

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  • Anonymous

    Has Congress realized their mistakes after the recent debacle in elections and Singvi
    episode?. Sajan Kumar was named by CBI in 1984 riots and now four senior congress
    leaders , Jairam Ramesh, Ghulam Azad, Salman Khudsheed and Valayar Ravi have
    offered to go back to party works.
    ,

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Apparently so, whether they will benefit from the changes they make is be seen. The only point to note is that they have woken up to the reality and something needs to be done.

    There is 50% risk involved – it works or it does not. Seemingly, the status quo and current state of affairs almost has 100% chance of failure.

    Look at it in another way. When one is sinking, no harm changing into Sunday’s best – at least they will look good and would make a pretty picture.

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  • Anonymous

    there is a problem in posting to the blog.I m not able to

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Login first using the hyperlinked “Login” text above the top Comment Text box, and then post the comments. That works fine.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    use the INTERNET EXPLORER BROWSER.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    There is no internet explorer in IPAD, any idea which should
    use ?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    my knowledge of browsers is confined to google chrome and IE. While I find chrome immensely useful and advanced, this “daaru glass’ problem can be got over by using IE.

  • Anonymous

    THIS ONE IS SPECIALLY FOR MANGALAM JAYA MANGALAM:

    Abhishek Singhvi created history by his sex episode
    But the media was, understandably, in the silent mode
    because they were sworn to the Omerta code
    by his party, which threw freedom of speech into the commode

    yet, on the internet, this CD went viral
    jokes and criticisms began to spiral
    Just when the party was looking for revival
    it got struck by disaster’s arrival.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    a **** comes to the blog, shoves a big bamboo in ….. but see this poosie still half sleeping,rolling in bed and singing .missing rajeev, mishra.jai hind.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mangala,

    the intruding Pakistanis can be taken care of even by an unwell Balwinder from his sick bed.

    As you can see, we have the earth shaking, hip swinging,lip smacking seedy CD to discuss, particularly its ramifications on India’s international standing and prestige..

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hardly a comfort for Mangalam. You could do better , right ?
    Did you miss your RSS shakha ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    my coment deleted???

    a **** came, danced in our courtyard.our inteligent bloggers half sleeping and wrting nursry rimes.jai hind.

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  • Anonymous

    @Zain

    bhai come next month. now ppl r busy. one has loose motion, another flying kite, another writing nursry rimes, two r missing. i m nt educated to answer u. we ve 60 comments but no answer 4 u.rajeev,drmishra?where r u?jai hind.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Are you always so humourous?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Who is flying kite ?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    bhai vijay.big talking no jawab to ****.happy flying big kite in empty sky alone.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx Mangalam

    Patang ka apna mazaa hai…

    Zain bhai is delude and has probably taken Zain hamid’s lectures to the heart. I guess he is here to fire and run away. He wont come back easily witht he small dose of quesitons I gave him.

  • Anonymous

    for all the guys experiencing disqus menopause… try to ride in thru Mozilla Firefox.

    Gopi, make mozilla ur emergency browser which wil gatecrash where Explorer fails.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Mohan

    It would be a huge thing in case Sajjan Kumar is hauled to the gallows. In my opinion he should be hanged next to kasab,

    After 1984, the Congress gave election tickets to four major rioters from Delhi– Sajjan, Dhram Dass Shastrim HKL Bhagat… and Tytler (whom frankly I am not sure whether he took part in rioting)

    I have had the sordid experience of staying in a colony where Sajjan’s daughter stays.

    “Hum ne dilli par hukamat ki haii…” She boasts. Even today if her wild alsation bites the neighbour or the chowkidar or any kid, the police comes at her beck and call and sides with her.

    I suspect Sajjan’s hauling up is Manmohan Singh sneaking in his own wish, with Sonia and RG weak for the moment.

    “If Papa is touched… sab top se top Congress leader ka pitara khul jayega, ” Sajjan’s rottweiller daughter would boast.

    I suspect, in the end, the dynasty loyalists will ensure, Sajjan dies a natural death after 20 more years of a good life, outside, with his Z catefory state paid security.

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay,

    It is high time that all those involved in riots shoud be punished severely.

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  • Anonymous

    Tennis and beer and sleep… !

    But Mohan

    I think an easier way for the Congress to reform and improve is simply to ask Rahul G and Digivjay to resing and then leave the organisation to MMS. Rahul’s going may even tempt a 100 million Indians think of the COngress again. After all the new generation cannot identify with dynasty and all those old propoganda stories…

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  • Anonymous

    In one of the previous blogs, it was reported that the Supreme Court had slapped a fine of Rs 25 lacs on Gujarat Government for seizing a transhipment of meat.

    Here is a new link.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-slaps-Rs-25-lakh-fine-on-Gujarat-government-for-seizing-buffalo-meat/articleshow/12854683.cms

    A bench of justices Altamas Kabir and S S Nijjar ordered animal right activist Rajesh Hastimal Shah and the Gujarat government to pay Rs 25 lakh each as fine to Royal Exports, which had claimed a loss of over Rs one crore due to the seizure.

    ———-
    This is an old tale. However, the interesting part are the comments to the above news item. Sample these

    1) All Hindus from Kerala eat beef.

    2) If cow is your mataji, why is she roaming naked shamelessly on the streets? Why don’t you put on a khakhi or saffron chaddi on cow-mataji? Naked mata worshiper!

    3) It is not sacrilege to Hindus, it is sacrilege to Hindutva. There is a difference, you know.

    4) Cow is holy to Hindus so any attempt to harm the cows in Hindustan is illegal. Period. If you don’t understand this simple sentence you are not worthy of being a Hindustani.

    Response.

    agreed to u r point sunil but think of those farmers who sell them to make their living their are Hindus , best example is u r state Karnataka with BJP ruling party still they lost the case of to farmers and Karnataka is the biggest state of cow slaughtering ..

    5) Who(*) told you leather is “cultivated” from dead animals?
    come to Chennai & see. one of the biggest companies exporting leather buys cow hide(skins) from slaughtered cows as this is supposed to give a better finish. this company is owned and operated by brahmins!

    * Any guesses?

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  • Anonymous

    @ Mohan

    very important to punish the rioters dispassionately. In Sajjan Kumar’s case he was personally instigating mobs and delvering hate speeches and even lighting the fires where people were trapped.

    So was Dharam Dass Shastru, a senior Congress leader.

    I would not indict Tytler of Kamal nath as nobody gave any serious proof of them having delvered public hate speeches for revenge.

    On Rajiv Gandhi– I have mixed feelings. Yes, he failed as a new PM to come on TV to appeal to the people. But did he actually ask people to go ahead and take revenge. I doubt so.

    maximum he could be blamed for is the utterly thoughtless 1984 election campaign showing Sikh auto drivers as aliens. For failing as PM to control rioting. For making dumb, hirtful speeches justifying the violence.

    I have seen two three riots from close. Ordinary people become minorities who feel that they need to gang up together. A fitting punishment to Sajjan Kumar, ( a ground level rioter) will send the message.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    viju

    Thanks for your suggestion about the browser to use. Well U r a computer guy as well as a civil engineer as well as an employer giving life to many…Keep it up.

    Vinod chose the subject of Kayani so that we bloggers will ignore Sanghvi tape..Not so fast!

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thank you gopi. Your kind words would make me smile as I I move from site to site.

    I think you are right that the Congress is only too happy to sweep the Singhvi scam under the carpet. The third dimension which got india today interested… appointemnt of judges thru sexual favours would have sent the Congress humpty dumpty packing in such a manner that it would have been impossible to put together the pieces, even by a million repeats of Modi Modi.

    Tehelka, NDTV and HT have been the most silent.

    Comapre this with the fake scam of bangau Laxman, where Rs 50,000 was given jabardasti… and all the three media houses did Kathakali…

    Very funny country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    it was very funny watching the Tehelka show girl, Shoma something vaxing eloquent on freedom of expression on C NN-IBN. I liked Chetan Bhagat’s quip to the new crusader for right-to-privacy, retd.justice Katju, “if you cannot have censorship of the internet, you still have the option to switch off the lights when “doing it”.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thelka’s fake scam needs poster girls like shoma.

    Sad that we have become a republic of lies under Congress

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thelka’s fake scam needs poster girls like shoma.

    Sad that we have become a republic of lies under Congress

  • Anonymous

    Why does a boy asks for girl’s hand?
    Because he gets tired of using his own hand.

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  • Anonymous

    The 500 Rupee Note

    Prakash Iyer, MD, Kimberly-Clark Lever and Executive Coach shares two important management lessons he learnt from a 500-rupee note. Read on…

    ————–

    It happened some years ago but I can recall the evening like it happened just last week. I was in an audience listening to a motivational guru. The speaker whipped out his wallet and pulled out a five hundred-rupee note. Holding it up, he asked, “Who wants this five hundred rupee note?” Lots of hands went up. Including mine. A slow chorus began to build as people began to shout “Me!” “Me!” I began to wonder who the lucky one would be who the speaker would choose. And I also secretly wondered — and I am sure others did too — why he would simply g ive away five hundred rupees. Even as the shouts of “I want it” grew louder, I noticed a young woman running down the aisle. She ran up onto the stage, went up to the speaker, and grabbed the five hundred-rupee note from his hand.
    “Well done, young lady,” said the speaker into the microphone. “Most of us just wait for good things to happen. That’s of no use. You’ve got to make things happen.” The speaker’s words have stayed with me ever since. Do something. Next time you see an opportunity — think of the lady and the five hundred rupee note.

    Remember, just wanting it is of little use.

    Get up, and do something about it. Don’t worry about what other people might think. Take action.

    Several years later, it was another day, another time. And another motivational guru. As I watched him pull out a five hundred rupee note and hold it up for all to see, I thought I knew what he was going to do next. But he just asked a simple que stion. “How much is this worth?” “Five Hundred rupees!” the crowd yelled in unison. “Right,” said the speaker. He then took the note and crumpled it into a ball and asked “How much is it worth now?” “Five Hundred rupees!” screamed the audience. He then threw the note on the ground, stamped all over it and picked up the note and asked one more time: “And how much is it worth now?” “Five Hundred rupees!” was the response. “I want you to remember this,” said the speaker.

    “Just because someone crumples it, or stamps on it, the value of the note does not diminish. We should all be like the five hundred rupee note.In our lives, there will be times when we feel crushed, stamped over, beaten. But never let your self-worth diminish. Just because someone chooses to crush you — that doesn’t change your worth one bit! Don’t allow your self-worth to diminish because someone says something nasty — o r does something dirty — to you.”

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  • Anonymous

    Good morning guys.

    Most dangerous qualities of wives.

    They listen half, understand quarter, think zero, react double and remember forever.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Therefore, here is a way out for all those poor, harassed, frazzled and ensnared and entrapped husbands who have wives with dangerous qualities and long memories.

    Husbands should first fumble, then grumble a little, then tremblingly mumble only half the truth and and finally look at her as

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are really good.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Hats off to you.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Again for all bloggeers in Disqus censorship problems. Use facebook and then use Mozilla firefox as browsser.

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay,

    Will this facebook and Mizola firefox work on iPad?

    [Reply]

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    hould work, Though I now feel that the censor will read this and plug that road also.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay

    Thanks

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    FireFox probably does not work in iPad
    However for Internet Explorer, check this subscription based service.

    http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/onlive-brings-internet-explorer-to-ipad-1065592

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar

    Thanks will try.

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  • Anonymous

    According to Salman Khursheed, sex in court is a private affair while watching porn
    in parliament is not .

    [Reply]

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Salman khursheed should be the stand up “TRAGEDIAN” of the Congress !

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    yes, you are right. These days, merely looking at Salman’s teray eyes makes us weep. But, Mani Sankat Aiyar is going great guns.

    Therefore, we may nominate him for hte award of stand up comedian of the congress party.

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  • Anonymous

    Already three days into this new blog and only 90 responses, mostly from the die-hard fans of Vinod Sharma.

    It looks like Sibal has advised him to cut down on the anti type of bakwas and encourage only the faithfuls and inveterate naukars and chakars of the family.

    Friends and fellow bloggers, now is the time to pray for the safe return of Sanjay proxy Dhawan, who was at least willing to hear our tales of trouble with the censor, even if he did nothing to stop himself from censoring inconvenient posts.

    DEAR SANJAY, WHERE ARE YOU? HUM SAB DUKHI HAIN, HUM HAMARI GALATIYAN SWEEKAR KARTE HAIN, PLEASE, PLEASE RETURN.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    bVS

    I believe many faced the Disqus problems–Google chrom doesnt let entry. That is the reason why so few comments

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinodji has driven me back to Internet Explorer, which I had discarded in favour of Google Chrome.

    Who is there to advise Agent Vinod?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    So few responses, because Vijay, you and Rajeev are not very active.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Dev

    Got to balance dal roti with blogging…but still manage to type in a bit…

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt,

    Rajeev indeed is to be blamed along with SHoeb, Parvez, Gopi, Vinoo, and Dr.Mishra..

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Abcddf

    [Reply]

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    This is crazy !! full censorship… becasue Singvi]s act needs to be hidden !

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  • Anonymous

    Who is flying kite ?

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  • Anonymous

    Mahesh/Manohar,

    Yesterday you both were talking about black money in real estate market.
    This menace is prevalent all over India only the percentage differ in
    different cities/towns and even on the type of property. From my experience what I have seen is that percentage of black money in commercial property is more then in residential property in Bombay. Even the stamp duty calculated on residential property is almost at the actual market price while on commercial property it is much less.
    In small towns the proportion of black is much higher which can be as high as
    90% of the total value of the property in some cases.

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  • Anonymous

    Whre r rajeev,drmishra?no time when need.

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  • Anonymous

    Presidential poll: SP tests the waters with Mulayam name

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/presidential-poll-sp-tests-the-waters-with-mulayam-name/941171/0

    Excerpt

    Mulayam is said to be keen to occupy the post given his advancing years — he will be 75 by the time of the 2014 general election — and the realisation that there is little chance of him becoming the prime minister. He has been the country’s defence minister, missed being the PM in 1997, and has already passed on the baton in Uttar Pradesh to son Akhilesh. A stint in the Rashtrapati Bhavan will be a fitting climax to his political career, Mulayam is said to believe.

    ———

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  • Anonymous

    Global famine if India, Pak unleash nukes: study

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/global-famine-if-india-pak-unleash-nukes-study/941302/0

    Excerpts

    More than a billion people around the world would face starvation if India and Pakistan unleash nuclear weapons – even if that war is regionally limited, a study released today warned.

    ———

    “The needless and preventable deaths of one billion people over a decade would be a disaster unprecedented in human history. It would not cause the extinction of the human race, but it would bring an end to modern civilisation as we know it.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    I am not advocating war or killing of human beings in huge numbers.
    I am just trying to think out of box. The 7 billion population is a
    huge burden on the available resources of the world. Would not it be
    overall good for the humankind if the population is reduced by billion or two?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    MOhan it would take just two decdes to get bcak the two billion… humanity ki zayada production ho rahi hai..

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    One of the main problem of India is population. Maybe government should rethink of the family planning awareness of seventies. Ek ya do bus. No nasbandi of course.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It has to be taken seriously. But it probably won’t. The only government whaich has and is taking action on this is the MP government and being BJP, is often hounded by our Congress press for this.

    While individuals of all religions now more or less understand the imporance of population control., unfortunatley there is a lot of religious opposition to the family planning program. The premise religous leaders have taken is creating more numbersgets majorites and more followers.

    In the end the faint hope is now women empowerment and educating the woman enough to make her realise that carrying extra children wrecks her health and spoils their chances of good education.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    in Mumbai, there is a very popular expression, ‘dariya mein gus gus’.
    ek, do ya zyada, sub dariya mein gus gus..

    Anonymous Reply:

    About two days ago, there was a news item that the sperm count in men is decreasing fast. Soon, men may not produce, even when they would do everything else.

    Therefore, if there is a nuclear winter or a nuclear famine, there will definitely be a couple of billions less to crowd the world as we know it.

    All in all, a bright prospect for SAVING THE EARTH..

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Men may not produce but never underestimate women,
    they are very innovative and most probably they will
    find some other way of producing children.
    Then their slogan will be ” Who cares about men “.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    May be nature will find a way to correct the balance or may be it is a disaster (on account of population increase) waiting to happen as part of the script written by Gods or whoever.

    Certainly not by a nuclear holocaust. The effects would be felt for centuries right across the globe and that is not a good thing.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Yes we don’t know the script of God.
    Man plans God laughs.

  • Anonymous

    BJP to rake up Bofors issue in Parliament after fresh revelations

    http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_bjp-to-rake-up-bofors-issue-in-parliament-after-fresh-revelations_1680425

    Excerpt

    Leader of Opposition in Rajya Sabha Arun Jaitley spoke during the parliamentary party meeting about the allegations related to the Bofors scam made by former Swedish Police chief Sten Lindstrom in an interview.

    “The entire government of India at that point in time was out to save Italian businessman Ottavio Quattrocchi, including then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi,” BJP spokesperson Ravi Shankar Prasad told reporters later.

    ============

    Bofors ‘deep throat’ gives BJP chance to target govt

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Bofors-deep-throat-gives-BJP-chance-to-target-govt/Article1-845876.aspx

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Singhvi got his ‘deep throat’ in court and now even BJP has got their deep
    throat. It seems everyone wants a blowjob. Just now heard a news that
    S & P a rating agency has downgraded outlook of India to negative.
    Foreign investment may reduce and international borrowing cost of India
    will also increase. I hope that all the political parties will bury their differences
    for some time and will at least start working.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    S&P downgrading India rating should be cause for some concern, as foreign investors and collaborations would take a hit.

    It is all thanks to the little games our political parties are playing to score brownie points against each other – country’s progress and development be damned. These parties are not going to bury their differences. We do not need enemies.

    That is why I keep hoping that general elections be held soonest to get out of this policy paralysis.

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  • Anonymous

    The Indian Express carries a full interview by Chitra Subramanium of the Swedish police Chief.

    One thing striking is that despite the noise–THEE WAS NO serious effort even to contact him !

    wAH JI waH!! mAIN SUTRADHAAR was forgotten by our longwinded Bofors investigation teams.

    He also says that there was a concetrated effort to make sure Quotrochchi went UNTOUCHED!!

    Wah re COngress !! Kya honesty hai….

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  • Anonymous

    Mangalam, pl u dont get worked about Mr Zain. If no one is answering him, maybe they are busy. I have email of Rajiiiv and Dr Mishraji, I will write to them. I am getting too old for these cyber arguments.
    Why dont you copy paste what Rajiiv and Mishraji said before..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Balwinder,

    What Zain had written was a rubbish propaganda of Pakistan which did not
    deserve any reply. Aap aram keejiye.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    all big talking poosies hide under bed when time demand.now know all worth.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ Saanson ki zaroorat hai jaise
    Zindagi ke liye

    ~~~ Congress ko spin chahiye
    Aashigui ke liye ~~~
    ————————————————————————————————————

    QUOTING NDTV ON THE MASSIVE COVERUP BY THE CONGRESS on the Bofors kickbacks !!! :)

    Ab yeh NDTV ki news hai… koi Tarun Vijay ki nahi…. :) :)
    ————————————————————-

    Nearly 25 years after the Bofors scam rocked both India and Sweden, Mr Lindstrom has confirmed that he is the Swedish whistleblower who leaked over 350 documents to Indian journalist Chitra Subramanian, who was the first to break the story. He has also admitted that he was the journalist’s secret informant who operated under the pseudonym of ‘Swedish Deep Throat.’ Mr Lindstrom led the investigations into the Bofors-India gun deal.

    The Bofors case dates back to 1986, when Swiss arms manufacturer Bofors landed a 15 billion dollar contract to supply Howitzer guns to India. A year later, Swiss media began reporting that the company had paid massive kickbacks to Indian politicians and defence officials. Reacting to the reports, then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi had assured Parliament that that was not the case. The Bofors scandal however cost him the general election in 1989.
    While asserting that there was no evidence of kickbacks to Mr Gandhi, Mr Lindstrom talks about Italian businessman Ottavio Quattrocchi, who was believed to be one of the major players in the Bofors scam. He said the evidence against Mr Quattrocchi was “conclusive” as the bribes paid by Bofors landed in his account. “Nobody in Sweden or Switzerland was allowed to interrogate him,” he added. He also suggests that this was orchestrated because of Mr Quattrocchi’s closeness to Mr Gandhi.

    In 1990, when the BJP-led NDA was in power, the CBI filed a complaint against Mr Quattrocchi in the case. The charges against him included serving as a conduit for bribes. Others named in the CBI case included Win Chadha, who was Bofors’ representative in India. Mr Chadha died in 2001.

    Mr Quattrocchi left India in 1993 to avoid being arrested. In March 2011, a Delhi court allowed the CBI to close its criminal case against him after the investigating agency submitted that after 25 years and Rs. 250 crores, it had not been able to get Mr Quattrocchi extradited to India, despite appeals in both Malaysia and Argentina.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    “Nobody in Sweden or Switzerland was allowed to interrogate him,” he added. He also suggests that this was orchestrated because of Mr Quattrocchi’s closeness to Mr Gandhi.”

    I doubt Quattrocchi was even friendly with Rajiv. He was, however, very very close to Sonia Gandhi. He had in fact, free access to the PM’s house. The Gandhi family holidayed with the Quattrocchis in the Andamans too.

    Therefore, there is a strong necessity to take a close re-look at Sonia Gandhi’s role in the whole affair., ,,

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think we all know the truth now.

    Let us wait for COngress spin and jhoot to cover it up :)

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I once met Q when I was auditing his accounts in Delhi ( I am ACA with the BIG 4) Q is/was a very very powerful man those days. even today he is still “connected’ with Senora r…who do you think transfers/manages “her”: cash and chartered flights to Europe. Our ‘Lady- senora ” stil has roots in europe and doesn’t trust native indians, Ciao!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sapra

    W want more!! More insider news. Hopefully Vinodji will now change his trust of the COngress….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sapra,

    I love you yaar!

    Yes, there is a great deal of truth and reality in what you said.

    Vinoo is our official CA for this blog. My fellow bloggers and I would feel honoured if you add your valauble opinions here more often.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sapra,

    You are living in Delhi and you are talking about ‘first family’ of India.
    Bhai mere Zara bachke rehna.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    The account of Q which was frozen in UK was defrozen on the instructions from
    Indian government for few days which allowed Q to withdraw all the money.
    Mainstream media did not pursue this at all.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Everyting was fixed. Spin of all type was created. VP SIngh was denounced as an anti-national; the St kitts fraud was created; even AMitabh Bachchan was dragged into it.

    Quotrochchi was allowed to fly to freedom.

    What a fraud !! Wah re Congress !!

    If Rahul wants our respect, he should help India get back the money from the account of Mr Q… and his partners…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    nothing connected with Quattrocchi can be frozen, when his friendship with Sonia Gandhi is warm.

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  • Anonymous

    bhai fly kite.big small red yellow.be happy.big fun flying kite in empty sky. u r kite flying king.no comptetion.jai hind.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mangala, Zain, this one is specially for both of you.

    I was so depressed last night thinking about the economy, wars, jobs, my savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc., I called the Suicide Lifeline. I got a call center in Pakistan , and when I told them I was suicidal, they got all excited, and asked if I could drive a truck.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy and Mohan should do a standup comedy!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Wow. Absolutely fantastic.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gr8 joke!!

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  • Anonymous

    The country would have been so far better off if Congress has shown the same efficiency and efficacy they deployed in the Sanghvi CD suppression.

    Where does this leave the “judgeship for BJ” part ? What is the legal path to pursue this?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    No goal will be pursued. Take my word for it. That is why we as voters should have only two goals

    a) To restore the COngress to a national jewel and resue it from dalals and dahlas.

    b) To get over family worship and naukercy and become a democracy,.

    I have been consistent in chasing these two goals and have I think managed to sow the seed of the idea in many people.

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  • Anonymous

    Engrich

    I want to reverse brainwash you. Do you think Osama is the greatest or Hafeez Saeed is greater?

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  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    Sapra/BVS

    Isnt the Wardha boy connected with Qutrochi? I read somewhere he was instrumental in connecting Priyanka and Wardha boy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I mean Vadra – Robert-

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    we all know your word play. Wardha becomes Vadra, who becomes Robberji, who………

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  • Anonymous

    Shenoy u drive **** truck with no axles

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  • Anonymous

    MORE “GOOD” NEWS FROM ITALY !!

    India paid 350 crorers as commission to a dalal for buying 12 helicopters for 3500 crores from Italy as per Italian media reports.

    Wah !! Wah !! It is raining good news from all directions for the COngress !

    read

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/controversy-over-sale-of-12-italian-vvip-choppers-to-india-202232?pfrom=home-topstories

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    Anonymous Reply:

    One helicopter for about Rs 300 crores. Were these made of gold.?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Some special aircraft meant ofr VVIP transportation !!

    If BJP cant win it from here…. they have to be superdumb!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Or maybe Singhvi ordered these helicopters with bedroom and all such facilities.
    It is not really comfortable in court.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The rocking of the copters would help…

    Anonymous Reply:

    No, they were all fibre glass and steel, but they made a lot of gold for a few chosen persons.

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  • Anonymous

    one good news.. big drop in measles death in India

    http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/25/measles-deaths-drop-in-india/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    A good news indeed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx benoy…

    Always gr8 to read the perspective from the other end of th globe…

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  • Anonymous

    Mangalam

    Are you a long lost friend wearing different glasses :)

    Who has special love for Rajeev, Balwinder, Shenoy, me, Rajiiv and Dr Mishra? :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    I was also wondering .
    .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ MOhan

    Why did an elephant wear dark glasses?

    becasue he wanted to disguise himself !!! :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Good one.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is a she. Now you will NOT bring your dirty jokes which we all love.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    all 3 poooosies.jaihind

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  • Anonymous

    ~~~ AFTER THE SINGHVI BJ ~~~ A DOUBLE WHAMMY FOR THE CONGRESS~~
    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    @ Vinod Sharma

    Sir,

    Today the COngress got a double whammy even when it still had to recover from the sex for favours tape.

    a) The retired Swedish Police Chief revealed that Shir Rajiv Gandhis close chum Mr Quotrochchi was intimately involved in the Bofors kickbacks

    b) The Italian media is ringing with stories of a dahla making 350 crores in purchases of Helicopters , purchased at 300 crores a piece from Italy.

    Mohan our resident joker who spikes in sarcastic bullets in his jokes wonders whether these copters were made of gold. For me the 350 crore dalali means food and schooling for 3.5 lakh children in a naxal hit district for an year.

    We the bloggers at your site have a request. That please dont defend this gross abuse of position and power. PLEASE help us make the Congress a national jewel, which Dadabhai Naoraji, Gandhi, Sardar Patel wanted. Please let us move away from family worship, nauker style…

    You may throw our request in the dustbin.

    But remember, when we all meet up there 50 years from now on… If you agree to our request…the benefits u will get

    Then Shenoy would recite all his poetry to you…
    Mohan will give you unbeatable jokes….
    Gopi will link ouir presence in hell/heaven to what scriptures said…
    I would always be there to annoy everyone that God is making us a nauker…

    And of course if u disagree to our request…

    You will end up with Engrich ofr company… with abillion conspiracy theories for the next billion years !!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    I really admire your passion for the revival of the near moribund congress party, which, you rightly call a national treasure. I also liked your invoking the names of the great men who once presided over the party, which today has an Italian lady, who doesn’t know India, its social mores, its culture, its languages and more than anything, its people. Who cannot speak even a few sentences well. Who always loves to stay behind closed doors and locked gates.

    Millions of Indians hold the party in great awe, respect and bhakti. Unfortunately, the congressmen themselves do not know or don’t believe in the ideology of their party, because of which they are prepared to join hands with terrorists, spies and anti-nation forces.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thank you shenoy

    Mine is a genune cr to make COngress the organisation of gentle, patriots and not of naukers and t3error saluters.

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  • Anonymous

    Rajnikant jokes.

    When Rajnikant was a student, teachers used to bunk the classes.

    If Rajnikant works in BPO, clients would work in shifts.

    One day Rajnikant decided to play cricket in monsoon, and rain stopped due to play.

    Once upon a time Rajnikant used tooth powder to gt strong teeth. Today that
    powder is known as Ambuja cement.

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan
    Regarding your note on downgrading India’s credit rating due to debt levels, financial outlook, …
    -
    While the S/P is a rating of the financial debt and other related items, who will rate India on all other debt we are accumulating?
    With revelations of Sanghvi promising judgeship in return for a BJ, the new Qutrochi revelation, Adarsh, scores of mining exploitation, farmers and their children still dying in Mahaarshtra, Usha Devi giving birth in front of a hospital and dying in childbirth… Our debt extends far beyond the domain of money, into the realms of psychology, morality, religion and culture.

    “we owe god a death”, says Feeble in “Henry IV, Part 2″, and in the meantime what
    we owe ourselves, our friends, our children, and our country and the larger community is beyond counting.

    The financial debt/monetary situation is only one rating; we will rank quite low in the overall rating if we include all debts.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    I understand your frustration and feel your sadness looking at the current
    affairs of our country. It is the hunger for money which leads to most of
    the problems we are facing. Adarsh, CWG, 2G, , Qutrochi, mining
    exploitation, farmers suicides and many others issues like these. Money
    is the main cause of all these problems. Money is not evil, making money is
    not wrong but making money through dubious means and by exploitation
    is totally wrong. It has become very easy to make money by wrong means
    and get way with that. Today morning I was reading a news of the police
    officer from Chandigarh who was sentenced for six years for molesting 14
    years old Ruchika who latter had committed suicide. Rathore almost destroyed the whole family of this young girl. This man owns a Mercedes and
    his wife recently paid Rs. 9 lakhs for the number plate for this car. Something
    seriously and urgently is required where such culprits are caught and punished. If I am not mistaken this man did not even spent six months in jail.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If I am not mistaken Rathore bought that special car registration number (worth 9 lakh) for his wife as a grand gesture for standing by him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Now Abhishek Zingvi too will gift his wife a Ferrari for the same reason!

    Anonymous Reply:

    :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    How come our news media and political leaders do not question how a government official can buy a mercedez, how can he buy a license plate for 9 lakh etc?

    It is a shame taht he got away with murder; that he gets away with these corruption…

    I will not have an issue if maoisst kidnap and kill the guy..but tehy leave these guys alone!

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  • Anonymous

    Maoist problem:

    I request Vinod Sharma to write more on the Maoist problem that the country is facing today. I also request the bloggers find time for this major issue. I am afraid if we do not address this issue immediately, then we may end up creating a version of “Indian Taliban” , though not in terms of ideology of Pak Taliban, but the internal unrest and anti-establishment movement could be as fierce. Many small towns have already been victim of this problem. It’s just matter of time before we felt the heat nearer home. More than 70% of states have already been hit by the Maoist problem. How long should we wait before we address this issue seriously ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    PDP in kashmir, TMC in WB. Double face.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt,

    there is a huge, huge difference between Maoists and Taliban. The difference is Islam. Maoists have no religion.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am sorry to say, you are missed the point. Both of them have a purpose. Religion or Societal problems are just the starting points. Once a problem takes off, it becomes formless. The problem just becomes acute. When a disease becomes life threatening, it does not matter what disease it is, one just falls prey to it. Both Maoist and Talibans are recruiting people who have been neglected by the society and have been marginalised for long. They don’t work so much for money as much with the purpose of hitting at the establishment. These things have a viral effect – they grow much faster than a Rajanikant joke on the internet. So it’s religion or not, we are all going to be hit. A cyclone, for academic purpose, can be termed as “Katrina” or “super cyclone”; but it destroys either way. The victim does not remember what hit him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “I am sorry to say, you are missed the point”.

    He always misses. Nothing new.

    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS/Dev dutt

    Marxists/Communist ideologues have killed more people in the world than Islamic fundos – of course Marxists have been accelerating their conversion to Capitalists everywhere else except in our hinterlands.

    One will not find a Maoist in Mao land!

    This has to be dealt with through force and action – first and foremost, the money allocated for their welfare has to be spent on them– I m sure 99% of the money now is eaten by politicos and bureaucrats.

    I am for them kidnapping corrupt officlas and ministers – but it looks like that the MLA they kidnapped is a good guy committed to progress (per Ashish) and the young IAS guy also a committed guy — so it looks like Maoists have their own agenda.. Force should be dispensed appropriately, targeted at their leaders hiding in the forests.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How come MAMATA has solved JANGALMAHAL/MAOIST problem in WEST BENGAL. And Maoist have surrendered in droves

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  • Anonymous

    It is ridiculous to compare Maoists with Talibans.

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  • Anonymous

    It is ridiculous to compare Maoists with Talibans.

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  • Anonymous

    99% Maoists are committed people.

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  • Anonymous

    Gopi,

    A good starting point – Check how many states have been affected by this problem. Then we will understand the seriousness of this problem.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What if Maoists drop their militarism and focus mostly on political propoganda ? Will it still be Taliban by your definition ?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    SANJAYJI !!!!!

    The truth about Bofors is out. Qoutrochchi who is close to the gandhi parivar recieved kickbacks. Now you may ask on behalf of whom. Well you have to be innocent to ask that question.

    Further on since you thought Vajpayee in 1999 was somehow responsible for letting of the culprits of Bofors (kickbacks taken in 1986) , you may see Times Now where Chitra Xubramanium is detailing how the COngress governments tried to obfuscate and create fiction and then divert the attention to Amitabh Bachchan !!

    Very funny !! Looks like a JOhny lever Golmaal type thinking!!

    That is why I say let us rescue the COngress from naukercy and corruption and make it a national treasure ….

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay Kumar,

    How sad that Chitra never spoke about Amitabh’s innocence all these years ! She could have been a star witness in Bacchan’s case in London.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Yes I feel sad for Amitabh

    Sonia could have spoken and said that all the kickbacks were taken by Quotrochchi and Amitabh is innocent. I think real freindship is rescuing friends… not getting them into trouble on false charges.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    One must learn the value of dignity from Amitabh. Chitra’s analysis is devoid of depth – just an after thought. She never had a mind of her own I guess. She just played to the gallery with few documents supplied by deep throat then and now repeating with a sense of great wisdom “detailing” what deep throat revealed and what we read in newspapers today.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Chitra may be a dow the line reporter, but she was courageous. Of you remeber history, the COngress let off all tis goons, rottweillers and lumpens on anybody who wanted to probe the kickback reciever.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Perhaps you need to go through history and see how sensational were the headlines those days and how elections were fought on this issue. There was nothing courageous about it. She was never harrassed or brow beaten.

  • Anonymous

    A milkman continuously ringing a door bell. A lady came out and said ‘ kitna dabaoge ab
    bas bhi karo, tumse achcha to paper wala hai Jo chup chap neeche se daal deta hai ‘

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Haa, haa, haa, haaaaaaa!

    The lady doesn’t understand that milkmen earn their livelihood by pressing and squeezing.

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  • Anonymous

    @Mahesh,

    If it’s a political propaganda, then it can co-exist with many political parties. It may create a political space for themselves. Then perhaps it would be like any other version of communist. What they are aiming at is immediacy. The violent methods are driven towards that objective. That sense and purpose of immediacy is putting Maoists on the same platform as Talibans. Infact, it would not be wrong to call Team Anna as ‘Urban Maoist’ just taking their method into consideration. Do you think anybody would have taken notice of Team Anna, had they not imposed extreme demands and methods?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt,

    Team Anna is urban Maoists? How many people did they kill and how many they
    kidnapped ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt

    Any type of militancy is not acceptable, whatever the reasons.

    Did these maoists take part in the acceptable and civilised political process (forming a political party, contest elections at various levels) to push and take forward their ideology and agenda? Not to my knowledge.
    Perhaps they knew / know that there would not be too many takers. Hence, their refusal even today to eschew violence and take part in the constitutional process. Don’t they claim that ‘all’ the tribals support them? Therefore, what prevents them to contest elections. True, the tribals they claim to represent have been left behind. Is there any evidence that the living standards have improved dramatically under maoists’ hegemony?

    Similar militant methods were tried by the Khalistanis too in Punjab.

    Now that the maoists have ‘established’ themselves in large number of districts across many states (for variety of reasons), I doubt it is their ideology or the welfare of the tribals still driving them. Now it be must power and easy money (extortions and perhaps funding from other sources).

    Team Anna. It was bound to fail, in spite of initial public euphoria in their support. Their public posturing (fight against corruption) was a smokescreen, add to that their arrogance and constant threats. Their objective was very different. The very institutions they targeted now do not take any notice of them.

    I am not sure whether we can label Team Anna as ‘urban maoists’. Maybe ‘urban bullies’ would be more apt. That they failed is a different matter altogether.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I agree any kind of extreme posturing is unacceptable. At this moment just saying unacceptable is not good enough. The Govt. can change the tax law retrospectively just because they don’t want to give up the tax revenue. But we can not change the maoist problem retrospectively just by saying it’s unacceptable. We need to find solution to this problem. Let IPL, AGNI, 7% growth not blind us. Time we took this problem head on. We would love to be part of the solution, rather than wishing away the problem.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    My post had nothing to with the solutions. Be assured, I am not blinded by all this IPL, AGNI and what have you.

    The maoists having been unreasonable all this time, the solution is to take them on, when all else fails (it has) – power and money at their command will not let them give up their ‘rule’. In Hindi there is a saying ‘ laato.n ke bhoot, baato.n ……………..”

  • Anonymous

    @ Mohan
    Every murderer or kidnapper is not a maoist. We understand so little of maoists ! That’s why we need to understand the maoist problem.Also you missed a vital part of my argument – Infact, it would not be wrong to call Team Anna as ‘Urban Maoist’ just taking their method into consideration. Remember their call – “we want the Lokpal in 3 days” or something of that sort.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt,

    You could have used other term for team Anna. Maoists are famous for killings and kidnapping and they don’t believe in Indian law. I don’t see any resemblence between
    the two. One protests violently and another peacefully.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    There is a similarity between Coke and Pepsi.And there is a difference. The discerning buyer knows the difference. He pays for the difference, not for the similarities. The similarities are for the academic study.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Neither Coke nor Pepsi kill anyone.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Hope you are not Type II.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Wow. From Maosists to Anna to soft drinks to diabetes. What next ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    From Prabhat to Prahlad to Sanjay to Dev datt to…………….

  • Anonymous

    Read something very interesting.

    In a book entitled “Dialogues with The Guru” there is an incident, where an Englishman was dissuaded by a Shankaracharya, when the former desired to get converted into Hinduism—obviously, being very much impressed by the conversation he had with the Shankaracharya!. The reason given by Shankaracharya was, “What more patent purpose need be sought after to explain your being born of Christian parents than that in God’s view Christianity was the best suited to one of your competency? The Lord in His supreme wisdom can well be relied upon to judge what is the religion best suited for us. He knows that our poor intellects will be helpless in deciding for us the path which we should tread. He takes upon Himself the responsibility of deciding that path and gives us birth in a country, clime, time and faith best suited for us. Why should we ignore this gracious mercy of the Lord and try to do the impossible by comparing the relative values of the several religions?” The Englishman persists saying “I have tried to understand Christianity and follow it to the best of my lights, but very many doubts are cropping up now and then and I have not been able to meet anybody who can solve them. That is why I wanted to study other religions”. The Shankaracharya replied “Doubts can never be solved unless you approach the persons who have not merely studied their religion but are daily living it. For the purpose of trade, you are prepared to cross the seas and explore the air, but for the purpose of Truth, you want the teachers to come to your door and solve your doubts for you. The attitude that religion is an interesting side aspect of life must go. If once you realize that religion is life itself and not an aspect of it, you will begin to explore the entire world earnestly for a proper teacher. He is ever available and is only waiting for a symptom of real earnestness in you. I am not prepared to believe that there are no such teachers in Christianity. They may not be in the ordinary world of strife, for such a world does not want them nor have they any use for such a world. They may sometimes be found even in the midst of strife, as strife cannot injure them. Go, therefore, in search of such true Christians and ask them in true humbleness of heart to solve your doubts. They will do so in no time and you will find that God, in spite of your doubts, was after all justified in making you the child of Christian parents.”

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  • Anonymous

    Haryana should be handed over to Paksitan. They kill girl fetus as well as grown up girls. The DGP in Ruchiika case buys a Mercedez, then flaunts it with a Rs 9 lakh license plate, just like his feudal cousins in Pakistan.

    Come to think of it, Pakistan will not be that bad!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There were many things that I always thought could happen only in Pakistan, never in India. But the happenings in recent years have proved me wrong. We are as bad as pakistanis.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @Binoy hegde, Be careful what you write.One resident blogger , a builder from haryana /gurgaon , whisky and tennis ball swirling geezer , who sees the WEST as a repository of all vices and HARYANA/INDIA of all virtues.
    Only that the ******** CD happened to be from a country apparently where the moral codes are superior to the rest of the world.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan/Binoy,

    These problems are prevalent in North of India, mainly in Haryana and sadly
    police does not do much even when the cases are registered. These Khaps
    have their own laws.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Binoy

    Attitudes towards females are bad… and need a social revolution. I have posted a reply further up on why….

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay-

    I remember you had a dialogue in the last blog about “nationness” with Mr Thomas.
    An interesting article in NY times by Manu Joseph about how/why “regional” is taking over “national” in India…

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/26/world/asia/26iht-letter26.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx Binoy

    I fear that regional feelongs can create more fissures on river waters, migrants, sons of the soil, language…. etc etc.

    I think a full free market all over India can be a good national uniter.

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  • Anonymous

    Good morning .

    What is preferable? Parkinson’s or Alzheimer’s.

    Parkinson’s.

    It is better to spill a peg of scotch then to forget where you kept the bottle.

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  • Anonymous

    The greatest challenge
    Amitabh Kant

    The writer is the CEO & MD of the Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor Development Corporation.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/12869658.cms

    The city of Tughlaqabad, the previous incarnation of Delhi, was abandoned in the 14th century due to severe water shortage. Akbar’s capital at Fatehpur Sikri was abandoned in 1585 due to paucity of water. Leading global cities like Sheba and Babel declined and subsequently disappeared because water sources had dried up. The destiny of some of the greatest cities of the world like New York, London, Paris and Rome have been shaped by water. Water is the critical resource which can enhance India’s economic growth, improve the quality of life of its people and ensure environmental sustainability. Climate changes and overuse of water could mean that nearly one in every two persons will live in water-stressed areas. Households, industry and agriculture will increasingly compete for water, leaving little to sustain ecosystems.

    =========

    Read on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    We may see countries fight for water if something drastic is not done urgently. Too
    much of water is being wasted and there is no proper planning of preserving and harvesting of water.. Author has written about Singapore recycling the drainage water.
    Initially people of Singapore had some apprehensions whether drinking this water would
    be safe. To remove their fear, PM of Singapore came on TV and drank a glass of
    recycled water. Shekhar Kapoor is planning to make a movie on this subject which he has named Paani.

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  • Anonymous

    Moody’s slams Gandhi family for failing India

    http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Moodys-slams-Gandhi-family-for-failing-India/941435/

    The Congress’ first family has come under criticism by Moody’s Analytics for failing to restart the legislative process for reforms, accusing it of blowing their chance in the recent state elections including UP.

    “The real power behind the government, the Gandhi family, blew their chance to restart the legislative process at the recent state elections in which family scion Rahul Gandhi invested countless hours and money touring the rural backwaters of Uttar Pradesh,” Moody’s Analytics Senior Economist Glenn Levine said.
    ———–

    Read on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    We don’t need Moody’s to tell what is obvious to all of us.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Moody’s is only the latest in a long list of people who are slamming the GHANDYS.

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  • Anonymous

    Pakistan PM found guilty and sentenced for very very long period of 30 seconds.

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  • Anonymous

    Old stage, new players

    The failure to construct an all-India motif has led to the return of the federalism debate

    Suhas Palshikar. The writer teaches political science at the University of Pune

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/old-stage-new-players/941475/0

    The issue of federalism is once again in the news. It erupted over the Lokpal bill last December. It cast a shadow on the prime minister’s visit to Bangladesh. Koodankulam and the issue of Tamils in Sri Lanka matter much in the Centre’s relations with Tamil Nadu. Now, counter-terror measures have become the bone of contention between the Central government and the states. While all these issues have a serious bearing on matters of policy and governance, and thus on the autonomy of the states, the script is further complicated by the fact that the ongoing tussle has much to do with the possible political formations during and after the Lok Sabha elections scheduled for 2014. So, the current developments throw up two different questions: Is this a new turn in our federal institutional arrangements? Does the present situation portend yet another round of federalisation of the party political system?

    ======

    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    No change in visa policy on Narendra Modi: US

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/NorthAmerica/No-change-in-visa-policy-on-Narendra-Modi-US/Article1-846304.aspx

    The US has has said there is no change in its visa policy with regard to Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi. “Our position on the visa issue hasn’t changed at all,” state department spokesperson Victoria Nuland told reporters at her daily news conference on Tuesday. Nuland was responding to questions on the letter written by Congressman Joe Walsh to the Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, that the US Government reverse its 2005 decision not to issue US visa to Modi.

    ———–

    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    “islam is the only religion which provide right to own property & divorce to women”.

    Not true. In India, the Supreme court has given enough constitutional rights to women. Many of the laws like Hindu Succession Act has been suitably amended.

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  • Anonymous

    Sukma’s distant snow
    Samar Halarnkar,

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/ColumnsSamarHalarnkar/Sukma-s-distant-snow/Article1-846146.aspx

    When Alex VF Paul Menon was on his Bharat darshan – an old civil service tradition that takes young probationers on a familiarisation tour of their country – his colleagues noticed his aversion to luxury and general enthusiasm.
    “Enthu cutlet,” noted a blog written by one of his classmates from the 2006 batch of Indian Administrative Service (IAS) officers. “(Alex) had a natural aversion to leather seats…so (he) could be found sitting, standing, crouching or even lying at any other place of any vehicle except the seat…”

    On that tour, Menon – captured last week by Maoists irked by his zeal to bring public services to India’s most underserved communities – formed part of the “crazy four”, a microcosm of those who represent the still-idealistic underpinnings of India’s much-corroded bureaucratic steel frame. They were so named, explained the blogger, “because (they) were characterised by one absurd behavioral pattern – climbing up glaciers with absolutely no gear, and just because snow ‘appears’ pretty close”.

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    One from Menon’s old “crazy four”, Shruti Singh, is the first collector of another new Chhattisgarh district, Bemetara. She spends her time taking government to the villages, persuading legislators and MPs to mediate between the government and citizens, and sending officials to not just spend days and nights in villages but deliver on-the-spot solutions (more than 2,700 such cases were solved as of this month) and make people aware of what’s on offer.

    Digression: In another part of the country, the third of the “crazy four” Salma K Fahim, Karnataka’s first female Muslim IAS officer, tries to reach HIV-positive people who are off her radar as director of the state’s Aids-prevention society. The fourth, Rohit Gupta, an IIT graduate, is collector of Jhalawar district, where he set up an online system, now being replicated statewide, that allows people to check which sub-divisional officer and doctor is on leave; he’s also configuring systems that track births, ultrasound centres and teachers – part of a plan to reduce female infanticide and boost female education).

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    Anonymous Reply:

    These make me believe not everything is lost!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That is in spite of the politics and the politicians.

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  • Anonymous

    Husband to his wife : ‘ That guy Suresh, from fifth floor of our building told me this morning that he has slept with all the ladies of this building except one”
    Wife :”I am sure that must be that ugly fat Kamla who is staying on 7th floor”

    ============

    Wife : ” tell me honestly, have you ever slept with any woman other then me ”
    Husband : ” Darling, believe me I have only slept with you, with others I always
    stay awake.”

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  • Anonymous

    @ Mohan

    naughty naughty!!

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  • Anonymous

    @ Shan

    I think mamta’s total failure and the impending collapse of her government makes you spew venom… :)

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  • Anonymous

    Go Modi, Go!

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/other-states/article3353891.ece?homepage=true

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Modi is doing wonders for Gujarat. Only problem is that lately he has
    become very arrogant of his achievements. You will rarely find an arrogant Gujarati and they abhor arrogant people. In the election at the end of this year, I just hope that the people of Gujarat ignore his this attitude and vote for him for his good work he is doing for the state.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    I have not sensed that, he has always talked about making Gujrat the desired destination for investment, making Gujrat into a South korea etc.. I will not classify that as arrogance but pride..

    May be I missed his arrogance. You are right about the Gujrati trait of non-arrogance. I have never come across an arrogant Gujrati.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    I was in Gujarat in Feb. where I heard few times Gujaratis saying this ‘ Modi ne bahu
    hoshiyari thaee gayi che’ which means he has become arrogant. I never used to hear
    this on my previous regular visits to Gujarat. I just hope that people who think this
    are in minority.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ‘I have never come across an arrogant Gujrati’

    What should one make of this and what conclusion one should draw?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    have you noticed? The congress party has already given Modi a walk over, arrogance or no arrogance.

    Their fervent prayer now is only for Modi to win with lesser number of seats than the last time, which will mean the congress has won!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Relax, he will still win, except perhaps with lesser number of seats than he has currently.

    There are certain signs to note – (a) recent loss of an assembly seat to Congress and also losing a number of panchayats recently (b) Keshubhai Patel and his followers flexing their (political and financial) muscles, etc.

    I would still put my money on him. Though I have a feeling that the BJP’s central leadership would love to see a weakened Modi.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    To balance

    Electricity surplus Gujarat not so ‘power full’, reveals census

    http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/electricity-surplus-gujarat-not-so-power-full-reveals-census/932815/

    For a state government that pats itself for having turned Gujarat into a power surplus region by connecting all the urban and rural areas to the electricity grid, the census data of 2011 — that shows over 11 lakh households not having electricity as main source of illumination — could come as a shock.

    ————

    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    Manohar

    Regarding Suhas Palikar column, federalism vs state’s rights etc..
    A column from Manu Joseph (Open Magazine) in NewYork Times on the same subject is posted by Hegde in this blog elsewhere.

    The root problem is with the constitution. The seeds were sown, as I mentioned in the last blog in response to Viju’s comment, when Ambedkar et al worked overtime in segregating Indians in the document, and that segregation has grown left and right, wide and deep. It really was a lousy document, causing revisit and change 97 times so far (in 60 years), (where as US constituition had 27 amendmends in 235 years!) –

    While Balkanization may be a distant fear, there is nothing more that China and Pakistan will like than that.. In fact a Chinese think tank wrote an article about how China can accelerate the balkaniztion.

    Indecisive central leadership falling on one misstep after another will only make the “go self” movement worse. There is nothing wrong in decentralization on a well thought out basis rather than as a reaction to events and demands.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    The key here is the behaviour of the Central parties. We had three national parties — Congress, BJP and the Left. The left is now just a regional outfit.

    The regional parties like DMK, TMC, SP, Akalis, NC will always have a tunnel vision and would raise regional, linguistic and religious issues (Akalis and NC).

    The Central parties have to be matured not to react in the same language and not to inflame passions further. We have seen diasters when the COngress did an Akali Dal in Punjab and a National Conference in J&K (by propping up GM Shah).

    However the way the COngress fought the UP elections just showed that i had not jettisoned opportunistic extreme stances.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    Rajaji was against the linguistic division of the country precisely because that will form a foundation for similar divisions based on other factors.
    Rajaji was also for economic liberalization, removal of license raj, ….

    While it does not make any sense to ponder on “what it could have been”, it makes sense not to repeat the same mistakes

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think you are right here. All of India can easily be covnerted into hapless minorities. being exploited by the others. For example Raj Thakrey tries to make Mahrashtrians feel exploited. Amonr the richest states… yet exploited…

    I think as a country we fall easily to make believe tales of victimhood.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Our Brahmin Yuvraj is different. Bal and Raj Thakrey talk of Maratha pride, Modi
    talks of Gujarat pride and Rahul Gandhi says that people from UP are beggars.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Good observation!
    (may be he has an identity problem; his great grand father was all Indian, but wanted to be on the world stage; he is mix mix mix, more a “‘world” citizen, but wants to be (or forced to be) on the Indian stage)
    He is a goner anyway.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Very funny man… another competition for stand up comedy!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Did Rajaji suggest the division of the country on any other basis or it was supposed to be one state-country ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    your question oozes sarcasm in gallons.
    Still, you need to be answered.

    Rajaji (I am sure you don’t know him or anything about him) said India would progress well if we have zones and sub-zones, rather than division of the country on linguistic basis.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I would like to know more on Rajaji’s Zone/SubZone theory and the administrative frame work. Please give more details.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Governance will always be work-in-progress.

    Being a very diverse country, we learn and make changes in policies and even amend the constitution. Most amendments have been minor to take care of some particular laws and Acts. The basic structure of the constitution has remained the same, if I remember correctly, many years ago, the Supreme Court had ruled that certain key and fundamental provisions in the constitution cannot be changed/amended even by the parliament.

    We can debate whether reorganisation of states on the basis of language was right or wrong. It can now be matter of conjecture.

    Our country has a very large number of languages. Imagine a state reorganised on the some other basis, where 45% of the population speak language A and 55% speak language B. Which language should the state Government use for its work or should everything be done in two languages (driving up costs and translators laughing all the way to their dictionaries)? BTW, as you must know, all laws and acts are enacted in English and translations made into the required local languages (if need be), In cases of dispute, the English version holds it own.

    Moreover, when the Hindi speaking people (in majority) tried to impose Hindi on the rest of the country, you know what exactly happened. These Hindi speaking states refused to teach /use any of the other languages (Tamil, Telegu, Bengali, etc.) in their own backyard. This is another case of arrogance. Hence, the three language formula was devised – of course so many of the states only follow two-language formula, their own and English – examples Tamil Nad and Hindi speaking states. Those who teach third language (Hindi), the people of that state are at an advantage.

    Having said that, this fighting among regional and national parties has to be tackled. Except for loony sections (in minority) of the populace in various parts of the country, no one talks of breaking away and balkanizing the country, though the regional parties will talk of local pride, sentiments and needs, blahs, blahs.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    well, we fru…ers took the British administrative system, ie IAS/IPS, which drags the country backward every minute; why would nt w e take the British geographical split (northern, eastern etc) or some variation — dont you think British deliberately did not want to divide regions by language for the problems they foresaw..

    Ambedkar should take responsibility for the sh– he created — he creted the root division (language based states etc emerged from the seed he saw)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Which is perhaps why Akhilesh has decided that enough of Ambedkar-Bharat Ratna Sri Baba Saheb Ambedkar- is enough and henceforth only Dr.Lohia and his isms will be the guiding force for the SP and their administration.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I suggest you get your ‘historical’ facts right first.

    Dr. Ambedkar was the principal author of a document. The base was Government of India Act, 1935. It would have taken us years to write an alternative to the above and in any case the Act dealt more with the administrative and judicial matters and seemed fair to all.

    The document was debated, amended and adopted by the Constituent Assembly consisting of 500 plus members from all across the country and became the Constitution of India. That was democracy at work. Therefore desist from blaming Dr. Ambedkar alone or some other individual for real or perceived flaws.

    The British were not in India to rake care of the people of India, per se. It did not matter to them how the provinces were spread out. Whatever they did mostly was for their own interests. Therefore, let us not debate what the British did or did not do while they lorded over us and their way was better than the one we adopted.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well MMS is the leader of the country, we blame him for his government’s faults. ditto with Modi, Jaya, Achuthanandan et al.

    Ambedkar was the head of that organization and he deserves all the blame for coming up with a fruckkk up document that had to be amended 1.5 times a year 9wheeras the US constitution had one amendment in 10 years) —

    Ambedkar focused on dividing Indian people — the root was sown, and no escape from that.

    Whatever British did was in their interest – and whatever the fruked up assembly did was just to keep the same sh– …same bureaucracy, same systems– fruked up railway, IAS ….just look around… after 97 amendmends we still have those sh—i .

    Anonymous Reply:

    I have made note of your anger.

    If Dr. Ambedkar did come up with a third-rate document, what prevented 500 plus members to reject it and get someone else to draft a new one.Going by your reasoning and logic – I did not realise that one person was able to browbeat 500+ members into accepting his document. Was he a dictator and made the army wait outside to tell the rest as to who was the boss?

    Having said that, please suggest what alternatives you think should have worked vis-a-vis democracy, parliament, the bureaucracy and the works – merely lamenting and using 4 letter words would not do.

    I look forward to concrete alternatives.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This anger against Dr Ambedkar is child like. It’s not very different from a cribbing child constantly blaming his parents for all his miseries. From a child to adult and then an old man,he grows and enjoys all the goodies of life but he keeps cribbing and blaming the poor parents who perhaps did their best under the given circumstances.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    you must really feel the pat on your back, because the congressi troll ‘has taken note of your anger’.

    Why can we not blame one person for this mess?

    Gandhiji advised Nehru to dissolve congress party as it had served its purpose of achieving independence. Now, if Nehru disobeys the master and the supreme leader and the party continues to rule the country for the next sixty years and ruins it completely, whom else would you blame for the mess his party has created?

  • Anonymous

    Anna Hazare praises Raj Thakrey. He is learning tricks of politics.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Stupid of him

    We have to basically use Anna and Mamata as opportunities to ram in change.

    Anna has done good work… but Raj???

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Is it for Raj’s winning many seats in Mumbai corporate election taking seats away from “bad” parties?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I will tell you why.

    Anna Hazare and his team have made themselves irrelevant by their own shenanigans and arrogance (that word again). Most politicians do not even take notice of them (and that hurts also). Therefore, praising Raj Thakre is …………….

    ———-
    There ‘may’ be other angle to it – birds of the same feather – taking recourse to violence.

    Anna using violence to straighten ‘wayward’ people and Raj’s goons using violence and vandalism to ’show’ UPwaalaas and Biharis their place. Now this must be really a case of hitting below the (army) belt!!!!!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    Read the stroy on the NDTV newsite. It is a sentence taken out of context. Anna just told Raj that he liked the way he conducted an exam to select possible candidates. As expected the NDTV news report got Narendra Modi into the picture also !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It has more to with the poor show Anna had recently in Mumbai than love and respect for Raj Thakrey and his work. Anna will now also stop denying RSS support. He now knows the source of the crowd in his earlier meetings. He just got wiser like a politician.

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  • Anonymous

    Viju

    FYI. About land management/agricultural system etc in the Chola Kingdom

    http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-bookreview/article3347164.ece

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    Anonymous Reply:

    very intersting. the review talks about a fairly elaborate adminstrative mechanism.

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan what u say about Gujratis hating arogance, and Modi being one, is very intelligent.
    Also vaary entertaining was your poem on my kidney stone last month hehe. Thx

    Vijay who is Mangalam is he engerich or Ravi

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Or maybe the child… out of the love story…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    long patang chhorne lage ho.careful.mustad oil massaged ramdev lathi fix all.2 min in field, he he change to oo oo. poosie to **** sher inside.jaihind.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Tora bora mein osama ke maut ke gam mein dimag phir gaya :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Intelligence agencies have reported about credible info on a terrorist attack on US to celebrate the death anniversary of Osama Saheb

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    The US is getting all its drones ready. This atack could well mean a huge reprisal.

    Funny that the Sovets got out… with 15000 men loss. US is now in am endless loss situation. They could have well left the soviets convert Afghanistan into a socialist setup. Life would have been so different.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Osama’s ghost has sent Mangqala here as a proxy on the death anniversary !

  • Anonymous

    Shenoy,

    You are right. I know very little of Rajaji.

    What was his idea? What was the basis of his idea dividing the country in Zones and sub-zones ? Every 100 km radius would form a Zone and 10 km a sub-zone ? I am looking forward to the ideas propagated by Rajaji only in this regard.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak-ji,

    for the present, an initiation into your learning about Rajaji:

    http://www.ceeby.com/people/Rajaji.cfm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._Rajagopalachari

    You may also benefit from reading Rajaji’s Mahabharata and also Ramayana.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You missed my point. I am only keen on knowing the idea about state/region hood as propagated by Rajaji and strongly put forth by you. I am very keen to know his proposed administrative framework. Since you argued so strongly in favour of his idea, it would be very kind of you to help us understand with a small description.

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  • Anonymous

    Gopi,

    One does not need much of persuasion to create a division based on “othering”. It’s a state of mind. It does not depend on linguistic segregation of states, religionm caste or education. When somebody wants to inflict “othering” on somebodyelse, he will find or invent a reason. Language reflects a semblance of a common culture. It’s easier for people with a common culture and language to live together. They do not feel alienated. They feel they belong to a community. That’s why you see a mini china town or indian town in western countries. I do not see any harm in division of region by language.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    the fru— Potti Sriramulu’s fast until death and self-immolation in 1952 (for a separate Telugu/Andhra) state unnerved Nehru, and within three days of Sriramulu’s self immolation he agreed to the Telugu/Andhra state;hastening other states.

    The fru— Sriramulu’s descendents are now threatening self immolation again for Telengana.

    The frukkkg Markendeya Katju’s grandfather KN Katju pushed nehru to approve against Rajaji’s wishes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @Gopi

    ‘Fru—’ gives a nice embellishment and contemporary feel to your historic argument, but says a very little about your intent. I would greatly appreciate if you could illustrate Rajaji’s wishes and their political relevance for our benefit.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Were Rajaji’s (with utmost respect to him) opinions/views the final word on the subject that no one was supposed go against his wishes?

    What about the views of Dr. Rajendar Prasad , Nehru, B. Pattabhi Sitaramayya, Alladi Krishnaswamy Iyer, G. V. Mavalankar and I can go on naming all the stalwarts of that time?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We can still debate Rajaji’s point of view. Bloggers can bring in other views for the discussion. As Gopi and Shenoy say, Rajaji had a different yet workable plan ( based on Zones and Sub zones ). Can anybody throw some light on this administrative framework ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Can anybody throw some light on this administrative framework ?

    Even I am waiting for enlightenment on this plan.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajaji was the head administartor (CM or governor or whatever it was at that time) for the Madras State encompassing Andhra region; others were distant observers.
    Nehru himself was against a fast division, that too on language basis, but he was unnerved by Sriramulu’s immolation

    Anonymous Reply:

    C R was Governor General Of India (1948-1950), Chief Minister (1952-1954) – Madras , Minister of Home affairs (1950-1951, he succeeded Sardar Patel) at the centre.

    He was one among the equals. I am sure his views must have been taken on board and the majority view prevailed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Andhra declaration happened in 1952 (long before states were reorganized in 1956– Andhra declaartion was a catalyst) as a result of Sriramulu’s immolation – Raajji as the CM CM of Madras state which encompassed the Andhra region did not want to yield to these types of threats – and advised Nehru not to yield too; but the new state was announced three days after the man killed himself. Markandeya’s grand daddy, another *****, was the Central Home Minister at that time

    Anonymous Reply:

    anyway, to be continued, going to sleep

    Anonymous Reply:

    In December 1953, Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru appointed the States Reorganisation Commission to prepare for the creation of states on linguistic lines. This was headed by Justice Fazal Ali and the commission itself was also known as the Fazal Ali Commission. The efforts of this commission were overseen by Govind Ballabh Pant, who served as Home Minister from December 1954. The commission created a report in 1955 recommending the reorganisation of India’s states. The States Reorganisation Act, 1956 was passed by the Parliament.

    Andhra Pradesh came into being on 1st November 1956.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What was Rajaji’s position on this subject at that point of time ? Did he talk about his zone theory and the alternative administrative framework ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Only Gopi & Co. can answer that. I am not sure if there was ever a zone theory. We will wait for their elaboration.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi, you are right here, the pacifists of the Nehru regime succumbed to the pressure tactics of the Andhraites without so much as a whimper.

    The states-Re-organisation on linguistic basis committee did a shoddy job was borne out in later years as starkly as the division of the country on religious lines in 1947.

    There is a continuing problem between Karnataka and Maharashtra on Belgaum,

    Haryana was created by merging areas that earlier formed parts of Punjab, UP, HP,

    Jharkhand was created after a lot of agitation, so was Chattisgarh.

    Hill areas of Darjeeling refuse to stay under WB administration,

    Telangana has been agitating for a separate state since 1956,

    Vidharba is agitating for a separate state since long.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    @ Gopi and Pathak

    I am all fr smaller states. Maharashtra and Gujarat together would not have been successfull Imagine a dry Mumbai…

    Closer North, Bihar and Jharkhand are both happier after a division and so are MP and Chattisgarh.

    UP should be chopped into 3 for some things to improve here. Uttrakhand which broke away is roaring…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Nothing to worry about. Mumbai would have been as dry as Ahmedabad today.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Juice ke glass mein whisky… :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “Mumbai would have been as dry as Ahmadabad today”.

    Theoretically speaking, yes. In practice, ………..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A peg in Mumbai would have tasted as sweet as it tastes now every evening in Ahmedabad.

    Anonymous Reply:

    They say the best ‘booze’ in India is available in Baroda.

    Seriously, the politicians in Gujarat have got into a cleft stick re: alcohol. They should just give this policy a quiet burial and fill the state coffers .

    They will not, it is one of the biggest rackets in the country. Lot of unscrupulous people (politicians, bureaucrats, police, sellers) make lot of unaccounted money by selling lot of genuine liquor to lot of thirsty drinkers – all below board of course. It is one big happy family.

    Anonymous Reply:

    One big happy family.
    How apt! Nobody cribs. You just have to give a quizzing look at the waiter in Ahmedabad, he smiles and you have your stuff in no time. Perfect administration – one big happy family.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Currently the head of this big happy family is a person who goes by the name of Narendra Modi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Now compare this with one of the holiest place of India, Hardwar. An auto riksha driver there once told
    me that ask the main pundit of any temple in Hardwar you will get your booze.
    Yes, Gujarat is not perfect as all other states of India, but Modi unlike most of the CMs
    is working honestly to bring prosperity to the people of his state.

  • Anonymous

    Viju

    Any new info on “judgeship in exchange of BJ”… it simply is amazing how the whole media is silent on this…. I bet even this blog on “Kayani” is a forced, planned diversion

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I think the matter has been conveniently swept away. Singhvi will lie low and keep advising th COngress, but his career is over.

    The latest is Sachin’s nomination to the Rajya Sabha. The untimely hurry shows that the COngress wants to redirect tomorrows headlines away from Bofors onto Sachin…

    Strange that he was nominated, since he is still playing and probably would never attend th Rajya Sabha.

    Correct way would have been to wait his retirement and then fete him. Possibly by letting him become presidet of Mumbai Cricket assoscaition first

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    Anonymous Reply:

    what the yuvraj failed miserably to achieve (getting the young to join the party), the Rajmata hopes Sachin will achieve.

    I think, Sachin was being a buddhu to join a sunset party.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Disqus acting disgusting again !

    Bloggers may choos Firefox and Facebook

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  • Anonymous

    5cingulategyrus9 replied to you

    How come MAMATA has solved JANGALMAHAL/MAOIST problem in WEST BENGAL. And Maoist have surrendered in droves
    —————————————

    *** As per a book by Trinamool Congress MP Kabir Suman and a letter by Vikram, said to be a top Maoist functionary, that claim Trinamool workers and Maoists have worked together.

    In his recent book, Nishaner naam Tapasi Malik , Suman exposed how the anti-land-grabbing movement in Nandigram has been an armed rebellion, and has succeeded because of close coordination between the TC and the armed villagers backed by the Maoists.

    *** Two suspected Maoists were arrested from a guesthouse of the Midnapore municipality, which is run by the Trinamul Congress on Jan. 31, 2012.

    *** Kanchan, Deepak (a former Maoist politburo member) and Selim (a state committee member) had organized the Nandigram movement, along with the Trinamool Congress-dominated Bhumi Uchchhed Pratirodh Committee (BUPC). The trio gave arms training to BUPC members in Sonachura, and even taught them to use IEDs (improvised explosive devices). The armed BUPC squad in Nandigram had locals like Kartick, Batul, Jhuna, Gopal, Mukti, Badal and Sanatan Pramanick.

    During this time, the Maoist trio held meetings with a Trinamool MLA.They even paid `18 lakh to Trinamool leaders Nishikanta Mondal (the Sonachura panchayat chief, who was murdered in September 2009) and Khokan Shit to buy arms. A senior investigating officer claimed Kanchan had revealed this to the police soon after his arrest.

    ====

    The list can go on to show that TMC and Maoists worked in tandem. They were allies.

    Did Mamta use Maoist for her political gain ? Yes, she did. Kishenji was instrumental in bringing about the ground level support for Mamta. His position was leaked and he got killed – so easily for a man who evaded the security forces for so long, so successfully ! Was he betrayed ? Perhaps, yes.

    Sombody said TMC is Kashmir’s PDP in WB. Do I agree ? There are enough indications towards a strong complicity.

    Mamta has not solved the maoist problem. Maoists being a cadre driven organisation look for instructions from the top. The top maoist leaders aligned with Mamta. Many joined TMC and now enjoy getting all the local construction and supply contracts.

    So if you think she has solved the problem, then you are wrong. There is a confusion in the ranks of Maoists about how to deal with Mamta, because she does not need Maoists now. The elections are far away. The cracks would soon appear and perhaps you would change your opinion.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Well reserched and factual.

    I think we need to get some centrist and right parties into Bengal. maybe show all the bongs real life movies oh how the suffering Chinese shiver at mao’s name. Till then Paschim Bonga will keep debating which ideolgy to follow and shirk going to office.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Expand your horizon. It is not about just west bengal. More than 70% states have been affected by the Maoist issues. One must take this issue seriously.

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  • Anonymous

    @ Manohar

    you said –

    The maoists having been unreasonable all this time, the solution is to take them on, when all else fails (it has) – power and money at their command will not let them give up their ‘rule’. In Hindi there is a saying ‘ laato.n ke bhoot, baato.n ……………..”

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    Manohar,

    Perhaps you have heard about the “liberated Zones” ( not same as Zone theory of Rajaji as suggested by Shenoy ) in many states. Perhaps you are aware that in these areas the Govt. has no control. Can you believe that this siege has not been for a day or a week. It has been there for years. It’s irrespective of the party ruling in the states.

    You can go on spending money, drain your resources. It will impact you and your Govt., but not maoists. They don’t need much to survive. They lived in jungle before and do so now. So i am not sure the stick approach will really work. Time for an out of box solution.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    1) Zone Theory of Rajaji. I do not know if there was ever such a theory. We will wait for Gopi & Co. to elaborate and explain in detail.

    2) I personally feel that the stick approach is only way to solve the problem. They may live on very little, but they are denying their ’subjkects’ the benefits they are entitled to.

    True, the Governments have allowed the problem to fester for too long, but that cannot be the reason not to take them on.

    3) I cannot think of an out-of-the-box solution. Can you and would care to elaborate?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I wish I had a solution to this problem. But i see no harm floating few ideas even if they are far fetched. If that creates some awareness – a little more than reading newspaper headlines, it would still be worth it. I would love to see some genuine concerns and effort to resolve the issue amongst people in general.

    You have pointed out the ’stick’ approach is the only way out. Perhaps you have a point.

    But we must plan an “exit” route before we use this stick approach extensively. Else, they would run from one end to another, getting disillusioned even more.

    We need to create both “inward” and “outward” processes to be more effective.

    1) Start with the isolation process. Cut the support of arms, ammunition and finance. Cut the supply route from the outside world.

    2) Start schools, hospitals in remote villages. Encourage children to go to schools.

    3) Implement MNRGEA programmes extensively.

    4) Distribute Televisions, Solar powered lights, water filter swatches, First AiD kit FREE in these remote villages.

    5) Accelerate the cooperative movement.

    6) Hunt down the top Maoist leaders hiding in the cities. Cut off their political patronage.

    7) Create a protracted and well coordinated simultaneous operation in all states. [ Do I see opposition ruled states cringing ? ]
    8) Declare well publicised Amensty programme.

    9) Use the NGO’s operating in these areas to connect and take the message forward.

    10) Make tribals part of the development. They must benefit when mine leases are given out. This should be done a part of the Govt. policy.

    Just a thought.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The problem is that the maoists do not allow any initiatives in the areas controlled by them. They have blown up schools, communications towers and host of other utilities. Keeping their ’subjects’ in the dark is the guarantee to their continued hegemony.

    Therefore, they have to be neutralised first area by area and followed by development in the areas regained.

    It is not going to happen very soon, as there is a ‘war’ of another kind being waged : Centre – vs – States in the name of federalism.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right. The top maoist leaders tend to keep things hot and alive through these means. That’s why a direct communication through TV channels ( distribute TV’s free ) would be effective.

    Centre – vs – States in the name of federalism : This will spiral into a dangerous proportion. Had Omar, CM of J&K talked in these lines, BJP would have branded him as an anti-National. Infact, J7K and North East are silent now and would pursue this idea vigorously once BJP & Co. make it politically acceptable.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sanjay ji,

    you are under the mistaken impression that you are the first to “create” these “exit” policies.

    These and many others have been tried in several states with little success since the 1960s, whereas the Shoot the killer Naxals was effectively employed by Siddartha Shankar Ray, the socialist CM of WB and the Naxal menace was rooted out.

    This, despite tacit supposrt to the Naxalites by the CPM of Jyoti Basu, who later thundered, “We will wreck the constitution (of India of course, because China had no constitution as we know it) from within”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am glad the similar strategies have been successful in the past. Come to think of it, Maoists have followed the standard operating procedures of Naxals and perhaps, improvised on it. Then the corrective measures that helped getting rid of naxals may also help get rid of the Maoists. I guess we need an equivalent of Siddarth Shankar Ray. Any suggestions ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt ji,

    you are under mistaken impression here. The division of the country into zones was suggested, perhaps much before the Government of India Act 1935, and a million times repeated subsequently. I only have made a reference to it along with Gopi.

    You have compared Anna Hazare with Maoists. It shows you have no idea at all what these anti-national t terrorists stand for. And if you have forgotten, these Naxal terrorists have killed, so far more than 375 people, who were all small, poor, illiterate villagers and jungle dwellers. This is of course, besides an equal number of people working for the government as officials and police.

    How anybody in his sane mind can compare these murderers with Anna Hazare?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Do we presume Rajaji never propagated this Zone/SubZone theory as suggested by you? Do we also presume that Rajaji never offered any solid alternative division options and administrative framework as claimed by you and Gopi?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    what Rajaji offered itself was thew alterantive to the linguistic states.

    Long back in Delhi we used to read on most walls a slogan:

    “dulhan wohi jo Pathak ji dilwaye”

    I think, here too we can say, “solution wohi jo Pathak G dikhaye”

    Anonymous Reply:

    What was that definite offer Rajaji made ? Both you and Gopi have been very emphatic about it , yet give no details even after so many requests!

    Anonymous Reply:

    They seem to have none. Just hot air.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I will make a slight change in the slogan:

    Hot air wohi jo Pathak ji aur the congressi troll chhoden”

    Anonymous Reply:

    From a presumably learned and intelligent blogger to a mere sloganeer, the slide has been very fast and obvious! Does it really take this little to break the shell?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    You suggested that Rajaji propagated the Zone and Sub Zone theory. Anyway, it’s no point taking the discussion forward in that direction as neither you nor Gopi has come up with some solid replies.

    As I pointed out to somebody else before, the Anna Team can be called as “Urban Maoists” taking “their method of intimidation to get things done”. Their verbal abuses are no less than bullets of maoists.

    BTW, have you ever been abused in public by a bunch of kids? I guess you wouldn’t know the feeling unless you have been booed and abused constantly for a prolonged period.

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    Ravi Reply:

    He does that to other people.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree. Abuse, label fabrication, writing nursery rhymes and attempting to sow discord – such a ‘multi-talented’ person.

  • Anonymous

    Bal Thackeray refuses to meet Anna, Chavan gives him the cold shoulder

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Maharashtra/Bal-Thackeray-refuses-to-meet-Anna/Article1-846663.aspx

    On Thursday, anti-corruption activist Anna Hazare received a mixed response to requests for meetings with political leaders as part of his campaign for a strong lokayukta in the state.

    While Sena chief Bal Thackeray refused to meet him, he got the cold shoulder from chief minister Prithviraj Chavan. Maharashtra Navnirman Sena chief Raj Thackeray extended support, and Hazare in turn praised him for holding examinations to select candidates during the February 2011 civic polls. The BJP supported him as well.

    ———

    Read on.

    He and his team are to be blamed for their growing irrelevance.

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  • Anonymous

    Heather Timmons’ column in NYT about Sanghvi/shutting up social media..

    http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/26/social-media-1-indian-government-0/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Interesting article.

    These excerpts too are interesting:

    “The video, which has now been viewed by hundreds of thousands of people on YouTube and other social media sites, is neither explicit, nor immediately incriminating – most of it appears to show little more than the top of Mr. Singhvi’s balding head, in profile, bobbing above the top of his desk”

    “Tejinder Pal Singh Bagga of the Delhi-based Bhagat Singh Kranti Sena, a right-wing group, told wire service IANS that he posted the video on Twitvid, which allows users to distribute videos via Twitter. “I am not afraid of these people and they deserve this,” he said. “I am prepared for any consequences,” he said.”

    WHAT BAFFLES PEOPLE IS WHY ZING-VI, INSTEAD OF HAVING HIS DRIVER ARRESTED AND CASES FILED AGAINST HIM, HAS QUIETLY ARRIVED AT A SECRET “UNDERSTANDING” WITH HIM, PREFERRING TO DROP THE CASE.

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  • Anonymous

    St Columbus School in Delhi gets to particpate in automobile design contest in Detroit

    http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/26/young-and-restless-students-race-sophisticated-mini-machines-in-detroit/

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  • Anonymous

    Read the signals
    Subhomoy Bhattacharjee

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/read-the-signals/942007/0

    Excerpts

    Far from Lutyens Delhi, at the Khajuri Khas DTC bus stop near Shahdara, the most popular choice for passengers is the green air-conditioned bus. It costs 66 per cent more than it does in an ordinary low-floor bus for a trip to New Delhi station, the most common destination. But nobody minds paying on a hot April day, when the government has been hammered by international credit-rating agency, Standard & Poor’s, for going slow in carrying out reforms.
    ———

    Near the bus stop is a lane at the end of which is an LPG agency. A walk to the outlet, where young boys in grimy uniform lounge under the fan for some respite from the soaring heat, is instructive. Every 15 minutes, someone walks in to plead for a cylinder. The gas agency cannot supply one unless the customer has a licensed connection but most of the walk-ins are migrant families who have arrived in Delhi without any identification cards. A young boy takes orders from customers who have a connection, while another, standing at the door, books orders at a premium from those who don’t.
    ——–

    As the recent World Bank India Investment Update (March 2012) points out, Delhi is wasting time on pipe dreams about FDI in retail. Instead, it should work with the states to find out why, despite changing the Agricultural Produce Marketing Committee Acts, none of them have introduced the relevant rules to make the changes effective. Without these changes, no farmer can sell even to domestic retailers, bypassing mandis.

    Again, as the government cringes about how people will invade the streets on LPG prices, there is a curious development it has not even noticed. Indraprastha Gas, the joint venture between Bharat Petroleum, Gail and the Delhi government, has raised the cost of piped gas in the very same areas of East Delhi, mentioned in the beginning of the article, by close to 50 per cent over the last three years.

    None of the pipelines has been tampered with, people have not rushed to streets in protest and life goes on. The only difference is the zero irritation in getting a piped gas connection and the 100 per cent trouble in procuring an LPG cylinder.

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  • Anonymous

    Mission impossible?
    ARATI R JERATH

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/12883720.cms

    Excerpts

    Three recent developments suggest that Sonia Gandhi is back in the driver’s seat in the Congress and the dawn of the Rahul era will have to wait for some time. One is the swift suspension of eight Congress MPs from the Lok Sabha for disrupting proceedings over the Telengana issue. The punishment, surprisingly harsh and definitely unusual considering MPs disrupt the House all the time, was mooted by Sonia who marched to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s Parliament House office and called for a meeting with key aides, finance minister Pranab Mukherjee and her political secretary Ahmed Patel, to discuss a strategy for implementation.

    ———–

    The reassertion of autho-rity by Sonia is the first sign that the hammering the Cong-ress took in the recent five state assembly polls has shaken mother and son out of their complacency and forced them to take a hard look at the state of play in the party and government. For the first time after their famous comeback victory in 2009, they seem to have realised that their carefully crafted succession plan has not gone as per the script and that a third term, with a smooth landing for Rahul as prime minister of a Congress majority government, is not theirs for the asking. The debacle not only exposed the pathetic state of the party organisation, it also served as a wake-up call that the time for experimentation is well past. The Congress can no longer afford to float in a leadership vacuum till the day Rahul feels he has earned his political spurs.

    ————-

    The political scenario has changed drastically since 2009 when the mother and son duo drew up the succession plan that didn’t work. Today, the main threat to the Congress is not from the BJP which, too, is in disarray. It comes from regional leaders who seem better connected to the aspirations of a country on the move. Sonia can at best do a holding operation for her son. Rahul will have to take the call for 2014.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Punishment for MPs who disrupted proceedings but no punishment for
    Rahul Gandhi, who was the main reason of the recent elections debacle.
    All mothers are same, they will never find any fault in their children.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    this congress party of Sonia Gandhi is indeed a strange party. Its presedente has no car, but she is in the driver’s seat. The son has no clothes, but he is the yuvraj, both hold Italian passports, but never cease to dream about lording over India!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    They dream about lording over India because there are many Indians who are ready to bow in front of Rajmata and Yuvraj.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    The punishment perhaps was also a message to other parties too – if they disrupt the house, their MPs would be subject to the same treatment.

    Mothers will always be moms. Recall, the sound bites of Salman Khan’s mummy when he was in all sort of troubles (all of his own making). Mamma Mia.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Is this the signal or sheer frustration? When one gets scolded by his boss at his
    work place, he in turn scolds his wife and children at home.

  • Anonymous

    Mission impossible?
    ARATI R JERATH

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/12883720.cms

    Excerpts

    Three recent developments suggest that Sonia Gandhi is back in the driver’s seat in the Congress and the dawn of the Rahul era will have to wait for some time. One is the swift suspension of eight Congress MPs from the Lok Sabha for disrupting proceedings over the Telengana issue. The punishment, surprisingly harsh and definitely unusual considering MPs disrupt the House all the time, was mooted by Sonia who marched to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s Parliament House office and called for a meeting with key aides, finance minister Pranab Mukherjee and her political secretary Ahmed Patel, to discuss a strategy for implementation.

    ———–

    The reassertion of autho-rity by Sonia is the first sign that the hammering the Cong-ress took in the recent five state assembly polls has shaken mother and son out of their complacency and forced them to take a hard look at the state of play in the party and government. For the first time after their famous comeback victory in 2009, they seem to have realised that their carefully crafted succession plan has not gone as per the script and that a third term, with a smooth landing for Rahul as prime minister of a Congress majority government, is not theirs for the asking. The debacle not only exposed the pathetic state of the party organisation, it also served as a wake-up call that the time for experimentation is well past. The Congress can no longer afford to float in a leadership vacuum till the day Rahul feels he has earned his political spurs.

    ————-

    The political scenario has changed drastically since 2009 when the mother and son duo drew up the succession plan that didn’t work. Today, the main threat to the Congress is not from the BJP which, too, is in disarray. It comes from regional leaders who seem better connected to the aspirations of a country on the move. Sonia can at best do a holding operation for her son. Rahul will have to take the call for 2014.

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  • Anonymous

    At one point Vijay Malaya had piles of cash.
    Now cash has gone and only the piles remains.
    Medically this condition is called King fissure.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    which is why Mallya has apparently re-introduced himself to the gods and goddesses. recently, he visited his native place, Bantwal, and even gave his ‘kandha’ to carry the god’s paalki, which was a great novelty to the local people.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When no help is coming from anywhere then only man goes to the
    ultimate trouble shooter, the God.

    This reminds me of a doha of Sant Kabir.

    Dukh mein simran sab kare
    Sukh mein kare na koi
    Jo sukh me simran kare
    To dukh kabhi no hoi

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Wow.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    gr8 one

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  • Anonymous

    A vibrant entity
    Aatish Taseer is the author of Stranger to History and Noon

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/ColumnsOthers/A-vibrant-entity/Article1-846725.aspx

    Patrick French, writing in the Sunday edition of this newspaper — Writings on India (and the foreign hand on the keyboard) ( The Big Story, April 21) (*) — raises too important a point not to be taken up. In arguing against a new defensiveness among Indians, related to foreigners writing about their country, he mentions a number of invaluable accounts of India by foreigners over time. The Chinese Buddhist monk, Xuanzang; the Uzbek polymath, al-biruni; William Hawkins in the 17th century. What he does not say, and what I suspect is at the heart of the Indian anxiety about foreigners writing about India, and especially its history, is that this body of work is often the only way Indians can form an idea of their past.

    * http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/ColumnsOthers/Writings-on-India/Article1-844271.aspx
    ————-

    It is humiliating not to know one’s history; and that humiliation, when one meets a foreigner with a more intimate knowledge of your past than you possess yourself, can turn to wretchedness and anger. It is like the story an Islamic art dealer friend of mine used to tell of putting on one of the first exhibitions of Islamic art in Saudi Arabia. The Saudi prince, who had commissioned the exhibition, was at first full of questions for the English dealer about the Islamic past and culture. The dealer tried his best – perhaps too hard – to answer the prince’s questions. What he didn’t know was that the better he answered them, the more the prince resented him for it. At last, the prince, apoplectic with rage, yelled: “But how do you know these things?” How indeed!

    —————

    Such an offensive thing to say! A near complete dismissal of India’s classical past. And so untrue. One has only to open a work of Sanskrit literature, like the Kumarasambhava, say – and what an opening: “There is in the north the king of mountains, divine in nature, Himalaya by name, the abode of snow. Reaching down to both the eastern and western oceans, he stands like a rod to measure the earth” – to know that while there was not a unified political entity (as neither there was in Europe or Greece) there was an incredibly powerful notion of India, asserted again and again in its literature. Of a cultural unity. A world so vibrant, so inter-connected, that it allowed for a man like Vallabhadeva in the 10th century in Kashmir, to write the first commentary on the Kumarasambhava, which in all likelihood was composed five centuries before in Ujjain. And, nine centuries later, Mallinatha, working in modern-day Andhra Pradesh, felt the need to improve on what had come before and wrote his marvelous exegesis on the same work. Would it were that India today, with armies securing her borders, had such a profound sense of who and what she was.

    I offer this as one distortion of India by foreigners. But there have been many: old and new, they range from mangoes and slum dogs to apologising histories of the Mutiny; there are the correspondents with their povertarianism and exaggerated fears of Hindu fascist take-overs; and there are the orientalists, who would turn hard gritty India into a fantasy of sweetmeats and fakirs. All problematic, all irritating enough. But the foreigners are not to blame; what is to blame is India’s historic and continuing dependence on foreigners for an idea of herself.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Writings on India
    Patrick French

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/ColumnsOthers/Writings-on-India/Article1-844271.aspx

    People have always written about other countries. Early writings on the subcontinent by visitors like the 7th century Chinese Buddhist monk Xuanzang can be revealing. After discussing religion in Ayodhya, Xuanzang is sailing up the Ganga when his boat is intercepted by pirates. They decide to burn him on an altar as a sacrifice to Durga, until at the last moment he is reprieved when his assailants realise he is a famous monk and scholar. The Durga worshippers agree to release their victim, take vows as lay members of the Buddhist community and let Xuanzang go on his way.

    Four hundred years later, the Muslim scientist and historian Al-Biruni described Indian life in a way that still has a vivid resonance. He recorded the interest shown in philosophy and mathematics, observed that different communities avoided touching each other, and noted that some men wore a sacred thread “passing from the left shoulder to the right side of the waist”. Once you get to the age of empire, things become more complex: words are loaded. Although Al-Biruni could arguably be called an imperial outrider of Mahmud of Ghazni, his principle aim was discovery — he wanted to describe and understand the utterly unfamiliar.

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  • Anonymous

    Actress Rekha nominated to Rajya Sabah.
    What Amitabh Bachchan could not do, congress has done.
    Rekha and Jaya Bachchan in same house finally.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    the comments in the internet show that people hate congress more than they love Sachin Tendulkar.

    Rekha and Jaya may be in the same house, but they are in different houses of their kundali.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    With you had left such an original and beautiful joke alone for all to enjoy. This was pure Nirmal Anand.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am glad that you understood the joke.

    I loved it and it instantly elicited a comment. Despite people like former justice Katju roaming this earth, opinion is still sacred in this country and comment is free.

    You too, Pathakji, may, if you can, crack jokes-real jokes, I mean- even under fake ID. I assure you, I will enjoy them.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    Let Pathakji enjoy life out here. So even if you reason for suspician… Pathak (even if he is not Pathakg) is only here because he enjoys the company of people on this blog…

    So as long as there is no direct confrontation… live and let live…

    Anonymous Reply:

    I agree.

    “dulhan wohi jo Pathak ji dilwayen”
    “joke wohi jo Pathakji pasand karen”

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not sure if anybody needed to understand this joke apart from just enjoying. A classy joke does not need any explanation. Need any explanation on that? Hope you will try not to explain when you crack a joke. Or, perhaps you need to. Some people do that many a time – explain to the world that they understood the joke.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And Mohan, you ask any congressman, and he will tell you, this ‘chamatkar’ happened only because of the leadership of Sonia Gandhi (if you didn’t already know)!

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  • Anonymous

    “nirmal anand” as in some Rekha’s movie ?

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  • Anonymous

    Three different ID’s of the same person ?

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  • Anonymous

    Let a person have fun under different ID’s. Just proves that this blog is irressitable! Very addictive….

    I am supposed to be doing somthing deadly serious right now. Like looking at a drawing of a Schindler elevator for a hospital and then incorporating changes in the structure…

    Par Mohan’s crack on Amitabh… makes me smile.

    I am sure when he would see Rajya Sabha TV, Amitabh would have nazar on Jaya (for consumption of Abhishek, Ash and grandchildren)… nishana would be Rekha

    And he would loudly say to himself…

    “kabhi kabhi mere dil mein yeh khayal aata hai..

    Kabhi kabhi mere dil main khayal aata hain
    Ki zindagi teri zulfon ki narm chhaon main guzarne pati
    to shadab ho bhi sakti thi.

    Yeh ranj-o-gham ki siyahi jo dil pe chhayi hain
    Teri nazar ki shuaon main kho bhi sakti thi.

    Magar yeh ho na saka aur ab ye aalam hain
    Ki tu nahin, tera gham teri justjoo bhi nahin.

    Guzar rahi hain kuchh iss tarah zindagi jaise,
    isse kisi ke sahare ki aarzoo bhi nahin.

    Na koi raah, na manzil, na roshni ka suraag
    Bhatak rahin hai andheron main zindagi meri.

    Inhi andheron main reh jaoonga kabhi kho kar
    Main janta hoon meri hum-nafas, magar yoonhi
    Kabhi kabhi mere dil main khayal aata hai.

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  • Anonymous

    yeh dil maange more!

    SACHIN KA HAATH SCAM AADMI KE SAATH!!!!!!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    There are two parts to this. Congress needed to remove focus from the revived Bofors scam, the 350 crores kickbacks in the Italian Helicopter deal, the Manu Singhivi BJ for judgeship. By Sachin’s nomnation the headlines changed.

    Though our faithfull HT never reported Manu zingvi, 350 crore italian chopper kickback or revived Bofors scam !!

    I think they are trying to ride the luck on Scahin’s shoulders as their Yuvraj has been repeatedly bowled out fo zeroooooooooo

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    Anonymous Reply:

    VIJAY kUMAR,

    as you said, this is a clever diversionary tactic and it has worked. For today. Tomorrow is another day.

    In the NDTV poll, 80% people voted against Sachin.
    You know, now people say, he wanted a Ferrari, but didn’t want to pay the duty thereon. He has rightly joined the crowd of scamsters and sex-in-SC congresswalahs.

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  • Anonymous

    ANOTHER DIVERSIONARY TACTIC -Tehelka sting: Ex-BJP chief Bangaru Laxman convicted

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Tehelka-sting-Ex-BJP-chief-Bangaru-Laxman-convicted/Article1-846995.aspx

    Isn’t the timing a little suspicious ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The Rs 350 crores kickbacks in the real defence deal of the helicopters does not even find mention in the HT.

    The huge kickbacks and links to teh royal family in Bofors being debated in Parliament does not even find mention in the HT

    Yes the FAKE commission set up by the COgnress in a makebeleive deal– where the reporter induced Laxman to accept bribe of a paltry sum less than the cost of a autorickshaw is headline news. !!

    What a joke !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    only “little” suspicious??

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What’s suspicious about the timing? Did somebody rush the court to synchronise the verdict with the revelation by Deep Throat on Bofor to checkmate the BJP ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Anything against the BJP and its leadership is always full of suspicions, conspiracies, grand designs, malicious propaganda, blah, blah, blah.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Comon Pathak ji,

    Do you still seriously beleive that the NDA was nehind the Bofors scam as it did not pusue a widow and two children out of kind heartedness?

    So Rajiv G and Quatrochichi are innocent and BJP’s fake 1 lakh of Banagaru is bigger than17000000000000 + 7000000000 .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Did you watch, through your sleepy and teary eyes, trees and mountains running outside the train window? Kids love them. Mothers make the kids watch the running trees and mountains when they get cranky and restless.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What has Bofors got to do with the running trees and mountains ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Same for the inconsolable kids.

  • Anonymous

    MANOHAR HAS GIVEN EXCELLENT link to Aatish Taseer article on history of India
    …everyone pl u read. I like bit about Kumarsambhava

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Balwinder

    Bhasa was one of the earliest and may be foremost playwrights in India. Kaalidasa pays respects to him (as Gurus who have come before me..) in Malavikagnimitra.

    Kaalidasa is estimated to be in 3rd-4th AD.

    Bhasa is estimated to have lived in 2bc- 2ad.

    Bhasa wrote the famous plays Swapnavasavadatta, Karna Bhara, Avimaraka (Mani KAul’s movie Cloud door was based on thi), Mrichakatika Girish Karnard movie “utsav” with Shashi KApoor/Rekha/Amjadkhan ws based on this root story) and another 10 plays..

    The manuscripts of all of Bhasa’s 14 plays were discovered in Trivandrum, Kerala about 100 years ago.

    Bhasa’s birth/creation place is speculated to be in middle India.

    If so, how did the manuscipts ended in Trivandrum? As far as I know, no research was done into this after the discovery in 1912.

    Or was Bhasa born in that region? All the Bhasa plays are “played” in “Koodiyattam”, a Sanskrit theater form, performed in Kerala area temples for the last 1400 years.

    All intriguing

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Not much intriguing , when you reflect on the fact that entire upper half of india was colonised by the muslim invaders 1000yr ago. The
    south escaped , thus the manuscripts (which must have been in last 200yrs ) survived. The oral tradition prohibits anything to be written down , a point noted by Al Biruni was much dismay.
    You can read Al Biruni Al Takriti Hind in english translation on the web.
    provided courtesy of university of columbia in usa

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  • Anonymous

    Friends,
    please read my response to Ms.Arati Jerath:

    Mission impossible?
    ARATI R JERATH

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes...

    This article shows you were and still are among those who had big hopes about the dawn of “Rahul era”.

    About Sonia Gandhi, it is rather comic for you to say a lady who doesn’t even own a car, is in the driver’s seat! Most people see in the act of AP MPs’ suspension a growing desperation on her part born out of the realization that after the rebellion of Jagan Mohan Reddy (which was, understandably, underplayed by the media!), this is confirmation that she is losing touch with the politics in the country.

    Her ‘marching’ to the PM’s office too is a bit melodramatic, because the whole world knows Manmohan Singh will fall on himself and come running to her at a mere whisper by his chaprasi that “madam has summoned you”.

    The Kamaraj Plan II, in reality, was a joke played by some congressmen on the other congressmen. The country, as a whole, had hardly raised an eye brow. But, the country is really interested in knowing why there is, as you say, “mutual mistrust and suspicion between Rahul and Ahmed Patel”. I wish you had elaborated on that.

    If, by these three ‘acts’, one of which, is marching into Manmohan Singh’s office, she intends to show that she is back in the driver’s seat, then she is really a very poor driver and a still poorer leader; and her being complacent hitherto too is one more proof that she is ill-suited to the demands of the party she heads and the country she is deluding herself into believing she is leading.

    About Rahul Gandhi too, she and her party, have both shown singular lack of sure-footedness, clarity and also purposefulness on when to send Manmohan Singh packing (of course on long leave) and when to “launch” the ascension of the yuvraj to the throne.

    As a seasoned journalist and an active visitor to the TV studios, you would have by now understood that there is no “blue print for action” and an imaginary blue print has many of Kapil Sibal’s zeroes as its chances of being put into “action”.

    And, Ms Jerath, you are investing a lot-beyond belief, in fact- of your own credibility-into Sonia Gandhi’s capacity to rejuvenate her party, set the government on performing mode, win state elections(!) and to get Rahul Gandhi to agree to become the PM.

    However, you are surely in a position to suggest to both mother and son that a start can be made by their facing the media for a change instead of hiding from it, because it amounts to hiding from the people who have scores of questions that need answers, particularly from the mother.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Many of the so-called ministers who were rumoured to spearhead the “Kamraj Plan” have stated they will continue in the ministry …

    Hoever, the weaknesses of the dynasty and its party will only add just a “delta” (even that is questionable) to BJP unless BJP gets its act, vision, bench in order. With the CM of Goa and Modi, they should project a “can do” mode, that clean administrations can deliver etc etc

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  • Anonymous

    NY businessman Edmonds Allen hands over to Prashant Bhushan droves of documents related to corruption in defence procurement, his relation with the dealer Abhishek Varma, etc

    http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/27/new-york-businessman-alleges-corruption-in-indian-defense-deals/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Let’s hope that one of the TV channels follows this story and makes it big enough for some action to be taken. As the article suggests, Mr. Allen’s willingness to inform various departments and authorities regarding this did not fetch any results.

    Thanks Mr. Hegde.

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  • Anonymous

    M J Akbar says:

    In both China and India, the political class has watched wealth being created at an unprecedented pace, to an unimaginable extent, and decided that it wants its share. The system is silent because it is complicit. It began with officials being on the take; they are now on the make, as never before.

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/india-today-editorial-director-m-j-akbar-on-india-china-corruption/1/186307.html

    Bottomline: If everyone is a crook, no one is guilty.

    Interesting read.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Iswhwar

    I think the BoXilai arrest/Heywood murder in Chingqing province has sent a shock wave.

    Looks like Chinese people have “risen” in spite of the authorities cracking down on internet/social media (sound familiar?)

    The BoXilai/his wife arrest may be a turning point.

    I have always maintained my theory about India – politicians’ corruption is nothing compared to the bureaucracy’s – in fact it is the clever IAS guys who show the path to money to many a politician. Dismantle many departments, privatize.. Explore how countries like US does its government administrative operations. Pick and choose a coupe, of best practices from all over.. The left over British administrative system is the number one facilitator of corruption here.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar-
    An interesting article in today’s NY Times about the guy Akbar mentioned.. written by one who knows him– his personal experience with the guy, bizzare situation in China, how he made use of Mao’s red songs ..

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/27/opinion/life-in-china-is-stranger-than-my-fiction.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks again Mr. Hegde.

    Brilliantly written piece. Thank God, I was born in India – all the growth story in China looks good on paper. Life of ordinary men is much better here.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Ishwar

    Gr8 article. But haveing done a fair bit of China… I can say that corruption out there is hidden and not like India where everyone does it openly.

    Secondly despite corruption they have solved their basic housing and infrastructre problems. The citeis and viallages are CLEAN. I did come across a few corrupt chinese officers. but they would all look over their shoulder, make sure nobody was around then ask for somehting.

    Surprisingly despite the one child norm, many had a mysterious brother or brother in law who could get things done afet taking money…

    But… Nobody does it openly. No Bofors, No lalu, No 3G, No chori all around…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    A good article. In the end MJ Akbar writes that in China it is dificult to get away with
    murder, but how about here, is it dificult or people with connection do get away with murder easily?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan
    good point.

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  • Anonymous

    Accept whatever is written in your destiny…!
    DON’T FORCE CHANGE…

    Death came to a guy and said, “My friend today is your day” !
    Guy:- “But I’m not ready!”.
    Then death said, “Well your name is the next on my list…”.
    Guy:- “Okay, why don’t you take a seat and I will get you something to eat before we go?”.
    Then death said, “All right. ”
    The guy gave death some food with sleeping pills in it, Death finished eating and fell into a deep sleep. The guy took the list & removed his name from top of the list and put into the bottom of the list. When death woke up he said to the guy, “Because you have been so very nice to me, I will start from the BOTTOM of the list.”
    Lesson for the day…
    Accept whatever is written in your destiny…!
    It Will never change no matter how much you try.

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  • Anonymous

    Tamil Nadu woman stars in satellite launch

    http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/article3357654.ece?homepage=true

    Excerpt

    As India’s first indigenously-developed Radar Imaging Satellite RISAT-1 nestled in its orbit hundreds of kilometres above the earth, here on terra firma, the woman from Tamil Nadu, responsible for the feat, too, turned into a star in her own right.

    N. Valarmathi, ISRO’s Bangalore-based Project Director for the space mission, was hounded by journalists and television crews, immediately after the post-launch press conference convened by the ISRO Chairman K. Radhakrishnan, and his colleagues heading various centres, concluded.

    For the next hour or so, Ms. Valarmathi was cordoned off by a media sold on celebrating her rise from her humble Ariyalur origins, to head one of ISRO’s flagship satellite launches. The quizzing covered various aspects, from the technological prowess of RISAT-1, to her school days in Ariyalur.

    ———–

    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    Abhishek Manu Zingvi has a lot of spare time on his hands and no work.

    But his mind is working at a furious pace.

    He is reported to be writing the modern version of MANU SMRITI.
    This book is a quickie, (just about 125 pages) in two parts, the second part containing his thoughts on Abhinava Kamasutra.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Frankly Singvhi probably got a boomrang from God for shouting out at the BJP on the fake Gujarat assembly porn scam.e should have remembered that his own father LM Singhvi was a BJP ,member and had been favoured as India’s high commissioner and was also trying his chances thru the BJP to become the President.

    Surprisingly Sanjay Dhawan ji who had gone into such detail on how the non existent Gujarat porn scam had resulted in parents preventing children from buying computers is silent and probably reading this and smiling.

    I wonder what happens to the CD industry now. Will parents prevent children from buying CD’s? Will the sales drop… because of Congressi kokshastra and people go unemployed and die of hunger? Will people now not send their daughters to lawyers chambers?

    Will the women of India get scared that predators are waiting in garb of kaala coat…?

    I wish Sanjayji would answer this for me…

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Zingvi and Congress should not forget that Jailtey was a good friend of his father and so he has been let of lightly.

    In case a BJP member had been caught in such a manner… Digviansh and Rahulg would have done a Salsa in India gate.

    As it is misusing court premises for fornification is a moral crime. And felatio is still a crime under the unnatural sex act. We the people of India are not pursuing the course as we dont want to anger the souls of great Congressi lawyers like Gandhi, nehru and Patel and Rajaji.

    Imagine Zingvi probably had some of the photos of these people in the very chamber, where he was doing yaun shoshan…

    Kya ho gaya hai, sabarmati ke sant ki Congress ko…?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    @ Everyone

    The worst news for the COngress may be around the corner. Bofors style dalali in various defence deals.

    Binoy has mentioned a link of Shrikant Varma (Congress MP) and his son Abhishek Varma. Well the documents of variosu dalaali has been given to Prashant Bhushan.

    As per Indian express reports the new york based lawyer has also met rahul gandhi along with Abhishek. now what role does a common MP like rahul have to do in defence deals?

    Similarly allegations have been made against SM Krishana.

    Prashant Bhushan wont sit quiet…

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  • Anonymous

    Ishwar
    Rupee already 4% down this month (vis-a-vis dollar).
    Equity flows in April at $172 MM compared to $5billion in Feb.
    FDI in 2011 only at $27.5Billion

    Solution???? improving economy/credible govt policy/response…. both zilch
    High inflation, lower growth, land purchase issues, opaque tax rules, retroactive taxation to 50 yrs ago…

    What gives? What takes?

    Will we have a jasmine revolution?

    Good nighht

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  • Pankaj#1

    Fiends;
    Situation is getting from bad to worse. Feeling exasparated, that is Indian public.
    Such situation, when came to two physicians, their reactions:
    - when a vet. received a call about 10.30 or 11 in night, very reluctantly picked the phone. On the otherside, a regular client, with two small dogs, was there, hence he had to listen. old lady: Doctor, my two wee dogs are stuck together and not getting separated, what I should do? Vet.: Throw a bucket of water, tried that, said old lady. Hmmm, Flash a torch light in their eyes, tried that too. In EXASPERATION, Vet. make a phone call, hey doc. are you sure this will work?? Not sure, but it may work, as it has worked with me.

    - Paediatrician, receiving that same 11 pm call from a young mother. Doctor, my toddler son has drank some beer from the bottle, which was left there by his father. What should I do? try to make him vomit, said doctor. Tried that, said the mother, make him lie on left hand side, this may encourage him to throw out beer. tried that too. in EXASPERATION, doctor- give him some potato chips.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    gr8 Jokes !

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  • Anonymous

    National Interest: With prejudice
    Shekhar Gupta

    By giving communal twist to naming of next Army chief, PIL tried to revive fears long buried — until apex court threw it out

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/national-interest-with-prejudice/942607/0

    By 1983-84, Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale had perfected his sharp narrative of discrimination against the Sikhs. A key element was the “Indian” (read Hindu) lack of gratitude for the sacrifices the Sikhs had made for them in the battlefield. The “evidence” was a “well laid out” conspiracy to ensure no Sikh ever rose to be the Chief of Army Staff (COAS) even though the Indian Army “couldn’t last a day in a war without its Sikhs”. He had his homework done. Lieutenant General Jagjit Singh Aurora liberated Bangladesh for us, but was not made the chief. Major General Shabeg Singh raised and trained the Mukti Bahini but, rather than being sent even a little thank-you note, was victimised “only because he was a Sikh”. So Shabeg Singh now sat at his feet in the Akal Takht, the supreme religious and temporal seat of Sikhism that Bhindranwale had made his home in Amritsar’s Golden Temple, raising and training his army of the faithful.

    —————

    That is why a PIL filed by a group of prominent citizens against the elevation of the next chief, Lieutenant General Bikram Singh, needs close reading. And even though it has been dismissed by a wonderfully liberal and wise Supreme Court within hours, we need to discuss and debate it. And worry about it.

    Because the central premise of the PIL is not the alleged fake encounter etc, that Bikram Singh was said to be involved in. It is, most shockingly, that his elevation was somehow plotted and preordained through a Sikh conspiracy at the very top, starting with General J.J. Singh. As government lawyers underlined in the SC, while dismissing it as a “communal sideshow”, it mentions such utterly communalist slurs as “langar talk”, “orders from above”, insinuates involvement of the “Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC)” etc. Please do read the full text of the PIL (tinyurl.com/ d96ueo6), specially paras 2.10, 2.11-2.25, 2.36, 2.37, and it may embarrass you as a modern, patriotic Indian.

    —————

    Now, what is this “orders from above” business? Let us stop pussyfooting around this. Also, because there’s been plenty of vicious whispering on this in the preceding months during which, as Attorney General Goolam Vahanvati rightly told the SC, the army “has been through a lot.” You can call Dr Manmohan Singh anything you want. You can even choose your favourite abuse because he is, after all, in public life, and at the very top. Or you can call him weak, silent, apolitical, whatever. But there are things you can never call him: corrupt, lacking in intellect, unpatriotic and most, most certainly you can never call him communal. That is why India owes the Supreme Court a debt of gratitude, for not dignifying this with any further discussion or argument. And that is why we need to read, discuss and debate what brought us to such an unfortunate pass.

    ———–

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  • Anonymous

    Permanent Indian judge at ICJ after 21 years

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/permanent-indian-judge-at-icj-after-21-years/942619/

    Supreme Court Judge Justice Dalveer Bhandari on Friday became the second Indian in over two decades to be elected as Permanent Judge of the International Court of Justice (ICJ), a position based at The Hague, Netherlands.

    Justice Bhandari, expected to resign from his SC post before his scheduled retirement on September 30, is the first Indian in 21 years to get a permanent term at the ICJ, with the last one being Justice R S Pathak.

    ———–

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    @ Pathak G

    I have to teach math to my 8 yr old nephew on Sunday.

    Sir, Sir, please can you help me with a question which my nephew asks and I get perplexed.

    What is bigger

    1 lakh .> 1,7000000 lkhs (2g) + 70,000,00 lakhs (cwg) + 350000 lakhs (helicpoter) + 600000 lakhs (Tatra)

    Sir, my innocent nephew feels lost because of news headlines…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Perhaps you plan to raise your nephew as another inconsolable kid. Not a bad idea. Then nobody can be differentiated in the family. Take him on a drive and show him the running trees on the highway, he will stop being perplexed. Getting the logic right is the first step to solving the math puzzle.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thank you sir.

    I will pass on the answer to him. As children are brighter than adults… I am sure he will solve the puzzle with this answer…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hope your surety has some lasting value! Days/hours ?

  • Anonymous

    Our building’s watchman drinks on duty because he was told that security
    has to be ‘tight’ .

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  • Anonymous

    Patel-wary Modi dons OBC hat

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Patel-wary-Modi-dons-OBC-hat/articleshow/12903552.cms

    Soon after Narendra Modi was featured on the cover of Time magazine last month, his media managers went into overdrive saying the Gujarat chief minister was the first Indian OBC leader to get this distinction.

    Surprising this from a former poster-boy of Hindutva who has shunned the caste tag for wider acceptance in the majority community.

    ————-

    In the past few weeks, Modi has addressed half a dozen OBC gatherings – including Thakor, Koli, Choudhary, Rawal Yogi, Prajapati, Soni and other sub-sections. Though he has also been to Patel and Brahmin gatherings, Modi has attended maximum OBC and Dalit mass-marriages this season.

    At almost every gathering, he has targeted the UPA government for slashing the OBC reservation quota. For the sake of ‘Sadbhavana’, he, however, doesn’t mention this because of 4.5% reservation for Muslims.

    ———–

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  • Anonymous

    Now IMF also says that they are concerned about non governance in India.
    I was just new listening to Mr. Sunil Mittal of Bharti Enterprises, he was say thing
    while environment in other countries for doing business is of hope, in India it
    is of despair.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    God help us.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    God also only helps those who first take an effort to help themselves.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Also read Sunil’s last two interviews on this subject. He pleaded the Govt. to be allowed to work.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    He also told NDTV’s Pronoy Roy that India is the most difficult place in the world to do business with.

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  • Anonymous

    Gandhi, Nehru, Patel and Rajaji were all great lawyers
    their party, sadly, has most leaders who are big liars

    Manu Zingvi defiled supreme court with his fornication
    Gandhi might well have said,’this party is beyond identification.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Applause and Bharat ratna !

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Wow.

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  • Anonymous

    Tatra sold obsolete trucks’

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Tatra-sold-obsolete-trucks/articleshow/12904148.cms

    Whenever bribe is involved in government orders, not only the price paid is more then
    the market prices but the goods received are also of low quality because supplier
    knows that he can easily get away by supplying sub standard goods.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The report does not say, as to why this was not brought to the notice of authorities/higher-ups at the times of delivery, if the trucks did not meet the specifications agreed upon.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Yes they should have at that time. Were they all complicit, scared
    or just did not care? Who knows?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Saraswat said the Tatra trucks, which have become controversial following Army Chief Gen V K Singh’s bribery allegations, have been in use since 1986, and DRDO has never had a problem with them. He disclosed that India’s wheel mounted strategic defence too is based on Tatra systems. “For strategic deterrence, we have rail systems and we have wheel based systems. Whereever we have wheeled systems, it is Tatra,” Saraswat said.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    DRDO has never had any problem with that ? When someone is using brass and he
    does not know that gold is available at the same price or perhaps cheaper, then
    maximum he can be blamed is for his ignorance only.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks for telling us how dumb our top scientists are. How internet/newspaper-illilterate they are.This guy must be stealing Agni V technology from Pakistan to cover his level of ignorance.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak

    You only comment on what people write or you take some pain to read the link
    to the news article provided.

    ” The ‘air cooled’ engines are low on power and have poor mileage. “Nobody seemed to have bothered about the technological transformations that have taken place in the automobile industry,” an officer said about the fact that Army continues to use the same T-815 trucks even today. The T-815 trucks are fuel guzzlers. A truck that can carry 12 tonnes runs just 4 km on a liter of fuel. A source pointed out that Tatra’s more advanced vehicles were far superior. “But we seem to have been a dumpyard for old vehicles,” he said. “

    Anonymous Reply:

    I definitely comment what intelligent people write. I presume they write after reading their own link.

    Are we going to discuss the technical spec debate between Air and Oil cooled engines ?

    The need is an all terrain vehicle. India has a huge border line running through plain, deserts, high altitude mountains where one does not find a service centre for hundreds of miles. One needs a truck that’s easy to maintain anywhere, anytime. Air cooled engines are easy to maintain. Infactthey have been reliable in many applications.
    Air cooled engine does not mean it’s a substandard product. Tatra’s variable axle makes it hugely reliable in any type of terrain. Did your article sing praise in favour of Tatra’s variable length axle? Did the article talk about presence of liquid cooled engines in Tatra? The order is placed on the manufacturer. The manufacturer does not supply on its own. Did V K Singh recommend “Ural Trucks” after he tried out while he was in eastern command? Did V K Singh file a detailed ‘user report after his unauthorised testing of “Ural Trucks”?Did he raise the objection and create noise about the quality of Tatra Trucks years before? Or, was he waiting to be the COAS to do this? Or, was he waiting for his final date of the retirement?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    In a very simple language are you trying to say the that article in TOI is
    wrong, military did not buy obsolete
    trucks when better quality trucks were
    available in the market as the article claims?

    Anonymous Reply:

    One brand vs another. TOI is writing on the basis of what V. K Singh is telling the world.There are procedure I am sure people followed. They might not have retendered. Ural Truck has been trying to make an entry, Tatra has been trying to hold the position. Tatra might have used 2nd rung officers to hold into its position, Ural is using a person no less than COAS to make an entry. It’s just a commercial fight with a nationalist flavour.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Going by whatever little info is available, one can say whatever price we paid we got the product as promised.
    Perhaps also the better quality vehicles would have been more expensive, I am only guessing.

    The point is did we get what was promised at the price we agreed to?

    Remember, Tatra is 150+ year old company, it will not spoil its reputation by playing dirty with one country.

    If a 50 year old vehicle serves its purpose with hardly any extra maintenance cost, what is so obsolete about it?
    Are we supposed to just throw the whole lot away and get a brand new ones? Don’t the aurlines use aircraft for up to 20+ years – though latest models with better technology available within 2 or 3 years of its launch?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Are you reeling out all this technical mumbo-jumbo to impress the ignoramuses like us or to prove to yourself that you are not Vinod Sharma in disguise?

    Or to show that you are the right substitute for the now missing-in-action Sanjay Dhawan?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks for telling us how dumb our top scientists are. How internet/newspaper-illilterate they are.This guy must be stealing Agni V technology from Pakistan to cover his level of ignorance.

  • Anonymous

    National Interest: With prejudice
    Shekhar Gupta

    By giving communal twist to naming of next Army chief, PIL tried to revive fears long buried — until apex court threw it out…………………

    @ Manohar

    You can not say the gentlemen who filed this petition were not honourable men. Can you?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ashok

    Shekar Gupta has done a major disservice by reading into innuendos and creating a poisonous environment when as a journalist he should have just reported about the court decision.

    Not bringing the accusations when the petition was filed, and bringing it up after the petition was rejected cannot be for anything other than to create wedge.

    His own newspaper, along with all others reported the PIL was filed because of 1) encounter here 2) encounter there 3) violation of some proceses. I, and I m sure 99.9% of the readers believed that those were the only reasons. It is shameful for Sekar to behave like ladies (no pun intended)

    Supreme Court rejected the IPL and that is it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You must read the PIL to know whether it was against Bikram Singh or for V K Singh. There is every reason to debate it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The time to debate was before the verdict. Why did Sekar keep quiet?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good people do not discuss things which are under active court’s jurisdiction and sub-justice.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Give me a break

    Anonymous Reply:

    This summer or next?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Was that why Sanjay Dhawan, a gentleman blogger-in fact, Vinod Sharma’s star blogger with his finger always on the censor button-took a break?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi …Shekhar Gupta and his paper is yet to express regret over his earlier cover page mischievous story . Just like the the Hindustan Times and the senior journalist who carried the false story on Shanti Bhushan’s CD is yet to apologiose for it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shekhar Gupta is one hell of an arrogant editor with a hugely bloated ego. He and apologise?

    NEVER.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What is the problem, if the matter (and the PIL) is discussed after the court verdict?

    Don’t we discuss other cases, once the judgment has been handed down? Aren’t we a free country to discuss anything under the sun?

    Shekhar Gupta and other media were wise enough not to muddy the waters before the Supreme Court considered it. Nor they had access to the relevant Government files and documents.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    People freely discussed in newspapers, on TV, on the internet and everywhere the issue of the army chief’s age even before the supreme court gave its verdict.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I do not know what prompted or the reasons these people to go to the court. The fact that they went to the court does not make them not honourable. They thought they had a case that needed to be heard. If there was any other ulterior motive(s) and at whose behest, we (at least I) do not know.

    The insinuation in the PIL seems that Gen. J J Singh as a COAS somehow ‘tweaked’ the system so that after the current chief’s tenure, the next incumbent would be Bikram Singh – a fellow Sikh.

    I believe the Government has worked out a process for the succession in the armed forces and that is what it seems the Government followed and the Supreme Court concurred, after the latter went through the necessary files and documents.

    Here is the full text of the PIL. You may draw your own conclusion, which may not be in line with the Supreme Court decision.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/pil-against-ltgen-bikram-singh/942512/0

    PS: We have never had a situation where the appointments in the armed forces are being questioned by ex and non-military personnel. One can understand an officer overlooked for promotion can go to the court without taking the help of ex-military men and civilians and I believe it has happened in the past.

    The question to ask to why ex-defence officers and civilians filed an PIL.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How I wish that army was never discussed in media.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Very right mohan.

    it is sad that right from the time of Bofors to Tatra, civilians and politicans have just tried to tar the army and tried to milk it for perosnale gain thru the purchases.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    I do not agree. There should certain tings in the public domain and transparent, so there is less chances of hanky-panky. What should and how much must depend keeping the secrecy needed for security and for strategic reasons.

    Anonymous Reply:

    We become a laughing stock when silly things like chief’s YOB issue and shortage of am munitions are discussed in public. It’s bad for the moral.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    I do not agree. There should certain tings in the public domain and transparent, so there is less chances of hanky-panky. What should and how much must depend keeping the secrecy needed for security and for strategic reasons.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That ‘tweaking’ was not freezing 1951 as YOB for V. K Singh, the allegation says. Of course it did not stop V K Singh accepting the COAS with 1950 as YOB.
    These honourable men and the lawyer definitely knew that Bikram Singh was too hurt in the encounter in J &K and he was on UN mandated duty in Congo and was not directly responsible for the In in Army personnel there.
    They tried create a wedge between the Defence Minister and the PM, by suggesting that the Defence Minister’s hands were tied and there were instructions from the top.The Defence Minister’s hands were tied because he went by the bok, laid down procedures.

    It was less about Bikram Singh and more about V K Singh. They just wanted to muddy the water by opening another channel.

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    All Meghashaya awardees are coming on a common platform.
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  • Anonymous

    I think

    SACHIN’S ELEVATION AS MP WILL HURT SACHIN MORE THAN IT WILL HELP CONGRESS~~~

    The tarred Congress is looking for props. Even Dabs and jabs , HT’s cartoon columnist has jabbed Congress and Sachin for it. Seems that Sachin’s reputation has tumbled becasue he has supported a dynastic succession partty tarred with loot and chori.

    NDTV poll shows that 75% Indians are against Sachin’s elevation.

    Let us also remember that the Indian media bends backwards and crawls to support dynasty and COngrerss. Remember NDTV’s famous backbend where it celeberated India’s world cup win with a

    PHOTO OF RAHUL G TAKING 70% OF THE FRAME, WITH SMALL CRICKET PLAYERS LIKE GULLIVAR’S DWARFS IN THE BACKGROUND!!

    Message to the public was Yuvraj ki Kripa se India ne world cup jeet liya…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Sachin met Sonia mata before his nomination of Rajya sabha was announced.
    The question is whether he asked for it or it was conferred on him or was it
    thrust upon him ? Can anyone refuse Rajmata ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think he was overwhelmed by the situation. He should have given it a cool thought that hewill have to attend Parliament– if he wants to do his duty– and thus miss out active cricket.

    I dont see him speaking in Parliament.

    In fact he will be like GOvinda and Dharmendra– absent mostly.

    Other part is maybe Rahul G being a failure, the COngress may use him as an active player in Maharashtra, like it uses Azharuddin.

    That would be sad too as active politcs and siding up with dynasty and corruption would be against the vary values Sachin represents.

    Merit– not inhertence. Honest work not chori and lootmar. Htting back at adversary — not compromising with terror (as done by Rahul and DIgviansh ji on 26/11)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In the final World Cup match against Australia he was definitely overwhelmed. Rarely any other time.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I just came cross some postings in the internet about Sachin’s wife being a Christian. The well oiled machinery is already on the job. How long will it take to reach this blog?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I also came across a post saying that Ambika Soni, Sonia Gandhi’s Goebbels, is a Christian. PathakGji, is it true?

    Anonymous Reply:

    When are you starting the discussion about the religion of Sachin’s wife?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I will NOT utter one word, except to say, she is a beautiful lady with a lot of grace. And her being a Christian will NOT reduce her beauty one bit.

    PathakGji, we have lived with Christians for 2000 years peacefully and I have no doubt we will live happily alongside of the beautiful Anjali Tendulkar.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Pathak is disappointed because even
    after bringing up her religion, no one on
    this blog took the bait. He was expecting us to critisize congress
    and Sonia for this reason.

    Ravi Reply:

    But PathakG he has succeeded in exposing the hypocrisy of Shenoy. Who never fails to point to the Catholicism of Sonia, but carefully ignores the very same attribute in others.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Welcome back after
    a short sanyas.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I just came cross some postings in the internet about Sachin’s wife being a Christian. The well oiled machinery is already on the job. How long will it take to reach this blog?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Beautifully put. Yesterday, I had said, “People hate congress more than they love Sachin”. NDTV poll proves it.

    Remember, just a few days ago, the whole world applauded and cheered the same Sachin when he scored that much-elusive, long delayed 100th century. Now nobody can say that people are biased against Sachin or that they are jealous.

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  • Anonymous

    Two interesting excerpts from the articles of two respected media persons.

    This what Pramit Pal Chaudhri wrote in his latest blog and this what many of us have been saying since long.
    _____________

    “ Two, the political system cannot be in worse shape. There isn’t unrest on the streets and so on. But the ability of the government to do anything seems to receding almost monthly. The Manmohan Singh government spends its time mainly finding reasons why it can’t do. From what I gather, the core problem is not Mamata Banerjee or Sonia Gandhi or the Comptroller Auditor General. The higher-up you go and the finger is pointed at Prime Minister Singh himself as the biggest obstacle in the road. ”

    ______________

    APR 26, 9:46:26 PM | BUZZ
    In light of the Sten Lindstrom interview to Chitra Subramaniam-Duella, Seema Mustafa recalls in the Hardnews:

    In 2004, when I asked Lindstrom to name some of the living persons who had full details of the Bofors kickbacks, he responded without hesitation, “Martin Ardbo, Ottavio Quatrrocchi and Sonia Gandhi.”
    He added, “I have never said this before” and went on to point towards the connections between then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi and his wife Sonia Gandhi. This columnist incidentally had interviewed Quattrocchi several times in the past, and he had never really bothered hiding his friendship with Sonia Gandhi. That he was a security cleared visitor to the prime minister’s residence at the time was a well known secret.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gr8 info Parveen. Seema is a geat journalist and has done extremely good work,

    it seems that the net is getting closer and closer to the sanctum santuram of Bofors kickbacks.

    What say, Sanjay, PathakG and VInodji???

    Time for Bangaru Bangaru Lakh lakh or Modi Modi rpae rape??

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Take a window side seat on the EMU .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thank you. But please remember Vajpayee ji was kind to a widow and two children. But today the mood of the nation is different. Lagata hai Bofors ka chor mil hi jayega…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Also keep a bottle of Mineral Water to wash your eyes every now and then. Delhi’s stench laden dust can have a telling effect on our smile, even by the window side.

    Anonymous Reply:

    have never lost my smile… even when walking through garbage…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Long Experience shows.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Also keep a bottle of Mineral Water to wash your eyes every now and then. Delhi’s stench laden dust can have a telling effect on our smile, even by the window side.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen-

    I do not understand. Couldn’t Congress then replace Dr Singh? They know they will lose big in the next election if these problems continue.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Binoy

    Pramit Pal may be trying to refurbish Sonia and Rahul’s image as all HT journos are sold on to the dynasty.

    The problem is very obvious to a dispassionate observer. Things were moving fine n India till the Obama visit. However subsequenlty Rahul G and Digviansh ji were unleasehd onto India by Sonia G. Like a true Mother she watched indulgently as trolls in the COngress and tollish journalists started shouting that the time for MMS was over and youg blood needed to take over.

    Thye demolished their own government. MMS is probably sore that he was been insulted so badly that he probably just does not care.

    If today Rahul G annonce retirement, apart form some trolls, most of India would soon discover that we can go back to 10% growth. And that we have become a mature democracy and no longer remain a NAUKERCY in the mould of Paksitan and Saudia and North Korea worshipping families.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, you may be right here.

    I have a strong hunch that Kaushik Basu, the PM’s economic advisor, was sent to Cornell Unioversity by Manmohan Singh himself to announce to the world that reforms are over for India now and they can or may start somewhere after 2014.

    It is his way of getting back at DigvinashG, RahulG, SoniaG (and now PathakG).

    Anonymous Reply:

    ‘…we can go back to 10% growth…..’

    Which year was that?

    Anonymous Reply:

    As soon as we are able to or are wise enough to overthrow the mother-son team and their fellow looters, which will be soon.

    Anonymous Reply:

    come September?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    ‘ Manmohan singh government spends its time mainly finding reasons why it can’t do’
    Perfect description of this government.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    One more ‘reason’ why we need to have general elections now and not in 2014.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    One more ‘reason’ why we need to have general elections now and not in 2014.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But, Mohan, we must somehow see that this government breathes till the beginning of 2014. If it is dislodged now or in a few months, there is still a chance that the congress will cry foul and try to get sympathy votes from its ever-willing vote banks.

    RTHAT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A repeat of Nehru-Edwina liaison?

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  • Anonymous

    Congress is bad
    BJp bad
    Modi bad
    Mamta bad
    Vilasrao bad
    Karuna bad
    Badal bad
    Sibal bad
    Kurshid bad
    PC bad
    eta l
    Jaya bad
    ditto all states..–
    Jagan bad
    ditto all state opposition leaders
    —— -
    ————
    Judges bad…..
    ——-
    ………
    CBI bad or in somebodys pocket…

    defence procurement bad….

    universities bad

    time to wear suicide vest ….why are we blaming Maoists..

    —–
    ——

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    Anonymous Reply:

    if the suicide vest turns out to be another “Akash”, you will go straight to akash, non-stop.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A good one!

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  • Anonymous

    Ok –here is the NYT column on “Aakash” the el cheapo laptop…note her observation “the news conference was success” ..you guys have too much hoopla..

    http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/27/the-tangled-tale-of-aakash-the-wo

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hamara Bharat Mahan.

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  • Anonymous

    Viju

    Here comes another ‘naukar” success story. CK Jaffer Sheriff, who was once rewarded with railway ministership (for being Shrimathi Indira Priyadarshini Gandhi’s driver), is going to be rewarded once more.

    Local news here reports that he will be the new Governor (Kerala). The most literate state deserves a 80 year old driver! (work is worship, nothing against the driver)

    Loyalty has its rewards….. Sometimes it goes on giving in this wonderful democracy of ours.

    Looks like Shrimati Gandhi’s long time assistant Dhawan also will be given a Governorship (in fact I am wondering why it took so long for him!)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think the search is on for perfect “naukers.’

    After teh Bofors kickback story came in in 1987, Rajiv Gandhi quickly bought back in the disgraced R K Dhawan who had almost been accused plotting Mrs Gandhi’s killing by a madcap over loyal judge!

    Now that Bofors chori issue is back, loyal servants are required for protection.

    Jaffer Sharieff is a lover of dynasties. In fact he is in the process of starting his own and has clled ofr giving Lok Sabha tickets to his grand children in the same mould as the Royal family. His famous words quoting an old article

    This policy of children inheriting constitiuencies should be followed at the national level,” Jaffer has said, hinting at you-know-who.

    “If a farmer wants his son to be a farmer, a doctor wants his son to be a doctor, and an engineer wants his son to be an engineer, what is wrong if a politician also wants his son to follow in his footsteps? The only sin he has committed is that he is a politician. Only those who have worked in the constituency and have credibility among the people ask for tickets.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay, Gopi -

    Jaffer is bad news. He was the king of Bangalore North constituency, won 7 times.

    He has been creating communal challenges ever since he lost ten plus years ago. He was the prime person who organized a march in early 2007 to protest against the hanging of Sadam Hussain. This march turned into riots causing several deaths and lots of destruction. He wanted to show Congress that he has a power base and he cannot be marginalized.

    Mr Shenoy may be able to throw light on the mafia he controls, lands and buildings he and his three generations own, his KSA connection.

    I hope the governorship is just a rumour. People should be packed off after 70.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The Congress is going lower and lower in its standards as it seeks to create an army of loyalists…

    Anonymous Reply:

    and doubting the loyalty of the army!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    much of what you have said is true. Unfortunately, Shareef is prone to play the communal card at the slightest hint of challenge to his fiefdom. Yet he has been dislodged from his perch, by rank outsiders from the BJP.

    Now he is a flat tyre, without any hope of being resurrected in the state politics. Therefore, if the news is true, it is oxygen to his air-starved lungs.

    He and his large family hold lacs of sq.ft prime properties in Bangalore. He also runs several educational institutions.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    What is taught in these educational institutes ? Protests, riots, destruction of
    public properties and may be communalism ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Does a protitute also want her daughter to become a prostitute?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    You mean to say that politicians are prostitutes.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Maine aisa toh nahin kaha tha.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Yes you did not say that, I misunderstood.
    Actually prostitutes are any time better then
    politicians, while prostitutes sell their own
    body where as politicians sell their country
    for their benifit.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And some politicians reduce respectable ladies to the level of prostitutes with their talent for sexual exploitation.

    SEEDI SI BAAT.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Were you as verbose with your partner?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Even better than Modi?

    Anonymous Reply:

    They both are social.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Prostitutes are social, yes, but politicians ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    a slight correction is called for.

    Jaffer Sharreef was the driver of Nijalingappa, the then congress president.
    Those days, the so called Syndicate were planning to overthrow Indira Gandhi and install one of their own as the PM. Jaffewr Shareef, who had heard the entire conspiracy, reported the same to Indira Gandhi, as a faithful ‘naukar’ and Indira lost no time in hitting the syndicate back with enough fire power to fell them and captured the party appararus.

    And Jaffer Shareef was rewarded with huge gifts.

    The rest is HISTORY in capitals.

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  • Anonymous

    Akash Tablet :

    The major fault lies with Prof Kalra, IIT Rajasthan. He did not setup the testing lab, detailed specs for the tablet. One must be clear what to expect from a $50 tablet. The tablet was designed keeping the price point in mind.

    Tuli, the owner of the Datawind was also trying “play topi”. He got it manufactured by Quad but did not lift the goods.

    Heating up is not such a big deal. Even IPAD III had such issues. Not having a proper lab was a major problem.

    Then everybody was trying to take the credit in the beginning. Till today we are not sure who really has the IP rights of this tablet. Datawind or IIT, Rajasthan.

    We believe the Akash II tablet is being manufactured under the supervision of IIT, Mumbai.
    I

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  • Anonymous

    Meanwhile, I learn from the Business Standard columnist, Aditi Phadnis, that the Dalit Hakk Rakshak Manch, “a newly registered organization, devoted to fight for the rights of dalits and other marginalized”, has invoked various sections of the Protection of Civil Rights Act, Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes (Prevention of Atrocities)

    Act, and the Indian Penal Code against Tarun Amrutlal Sheth, editor, printer, publisher and owner of Rakhewal, a daily in Gujarat’s Banskantha district. The excerpt from Sheth’s article I saw blamed the government’s reservation policy for the new crop of teachers who cannot match the rishis, munis and Brahmins who once taught the young good behaviour (sadachar) in forest schools (tapovan). The DHRM also wants Sanjay Vora (who writes in the Gujarat Samachar as Suparshwa Mehta) to be a co-accused. Sheth’s bail application claims Vora provided some of his material.

    Mera Gujrat Mahan or mera bharat Mahan
    NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED SINCE AL BIRUNI MADE THE FOLLOWING OBSERVATION
    After the Śûdra follow the people called Antyaja, who render various kinds of services, who are not reckoned amongst any caste, but only as members of a certain craft or profession. There are eight classes of them, who freely intermarry with each other, except the fuller, shoemaker, and weaver, for no others would condescend to have anything to do with them. These eight guilds are the fuller, shoemaker, juggler, the basket and shield maker, the sailor, fisherman, the hunter of wild animals and of birds, and the weaver. The four castes do not live together with them in one and the same place. These guilds live near the villages and towns of the four castes, but outside them.

    The people called Hâḍî, Ḍoma (Ḍomba), Caṇḍâla, and Badhatau (sic) are not reckoned amongst any caste or guild. They are occupied with dirty work, like the cleansing of the villages and other services. They are considered as one sole class, and distinguished only by their occupations. In fact, they are considered like illegitimate children; for according to general opinion they descend from a Śûdra father and a Brâhmaṇî mother as the children of fornication; therefore they are degraded outcasts.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In many parts of the country, the narrative is still true even today.

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  • Anonymous

    Rahul Gandhi , a MP, visits Satar, MH. The whole entourage of CM, other ministers, officials accompany him for visit with villagers…and Hindustan Times publish those pics in their photo gallery!

    I will appreciate input from lawyers on this blog – can the state govt undertake these types of expenditures for an MP or for a party official? Should the central govt bear the
    expense of his security when he visits willy nelly anywhere?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Can?
    What can or can not be possible in India?
    The very question reflects a serious nativity on your part.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Pathak G

    Is the salute of G at the end of your name… a salute to love of Rahul G and Sonia G :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    Actually he wants us to address him with respect.
    He has probably forgotten a very very old saying that
    respect is commanded not demanded.

    Ravi Reply:

    Ji Ji

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Okay G

    Anonymous Reply:

    Don’t worry about addressing with respect. Just be nice and intriguing with your replies. That will make the time wothwhile on this blog. I hate dull and boring replies. I also hate autistic responses from the inconsolables.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ‘G’aneshaya namah.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak Gji,

    why do I get the feeling that censorship is back, though a bit surreptitiously?

    My post of a few minutes back, on the ‘G’ thing has disappeared!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Very sad to know that you lost your G spot. They have been working so hard to find the mysterious G spot and you lose yours so casually! Be careful with your G spot.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You can ask Manu Zingvi about the G-string and how it can be removed in a jiffy, even inside the supreme court of India.

    Ravi Reply:

    Gopi

    Surely that depends upon if the visit is in reponse to an invitation or not.

    In any case how would any one know as to whose money (state, Central Gov, Political Party or Personal is being used). Are you suggesting that what ever the case this amounts to abuse.

    I thought you were above that sort of cynical politics, may be I am wrong.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Gopi

    But I would give the nobel prize for sycophancy to NDTV. They had that 70% frame of Rahul Gandhi smiling with small dwarfish Indian cricket team occupying 30% of the picture.

    India wins world cup under the gaze of of the benevelont dunce prince… !! :)

    My dad tells me that the record of the Hindustan Times was particularly bad during the Emergency. When Sanjay Gandhi scratched his head… it was the main headline.

    When Mrs gandhi announced that she does nto beleive in dynasty and Sanjay was just “helping’ the youth of India, it was the headline of the lower half of the front page.

    Bass !! Poora paper… Dynasty ko salute karta thaa…

    Today has anythign changed???

    VINODJI… WE THE BLOGGERS AT YOUR SITE REQUEST YOU TO BECOME THE AGENT VINOD OF CHANGE AND STOP SYCOPHANCY OF DYNASTY… sir, do you want to make India join North korea, Somalia, Saudia, Pakistan, Cuba??/

    Or you want India to be with

    US, UK, France, Australia, Russia, even Sri Lanka and South Africa/…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “When Sanjay Gandhi scratched his head… it was the main headline.”

    And when Sanjay Gandhi scratched his balls, a thousand hands moved from their type writers to their crotch.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Gr8 one !!

    I must tell you what my Hind teacher told me… a true story, 25 years after Sanjay gandhi left school– the same school where I had studied..

    Mr yadav, the Hindi teacher pulled Sanjay Gandhi’s ears for cheating in a examination.

    Sanjay just went to the school reception, dialled a few numbers. In ten minutes the Information Minister, daughter of nehru and later to become the PM– Indira was standing at the teacher’s desk.

    “Apologise to my son,” she told him, “he is a tender boy…”

    Now this Yadav, the teacher, was a likeable rustic in a school full of hifi Indian and irish, british and American teachers.

    “Madamji… tender hai…abhi nahin samjhaoge toh phool ki jagah cactus ban jayega…” Yadav told her and explained that Sanjay was caught cheating.

    Indira understood. Sanjay probably did not. And did make a mockery of the teacher many a time later in class.

    Well boys will be boys . You can say that. maybe Sanjay was a hard nut. Though years later, yadav told us, Sanjay called him during 1980, just before his untimely death to tell him that, ” I have still not forgotten your thappad… but now I dont have anger against you…”

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    lovely rendering.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    At least Sanjay Gandhi realized, but I have noticed in my life that most of the people
    never realize and if some of them do, they never admit.
    By the way as Pankaj said, lovely rendering.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    My connection to HT goes to days back, when this paper was established by Swami Shradhhanand. A very nationalist paper, gone to….many of the illustrious and not so illustrious Editors might have been contemporary of my father, who was a product of school of Jouranilism in Lahore of prepartitioned India.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Pankaj

    nice to know that. So you father too was a jounralist and maybe that gets you to the blog here !

    I know that HT does have good journos too.

    BG Verghese and even our Vindo Sharma — as long as Congress is not involved.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    it is great to know that you have close ties to the profession of journalism. And it must really hurt you like it does to some of us here, that Hindustan Times, a great institution in its own right, should act like a hand maid of the congress party and its presidente, Senora Antonia Edvige Albina Maino.

    Ravi Reply:

    When Mohan Bhagwat causes a flutter in his tight lungoat by some backdraft, a storm rages for days in the BJP.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    O u r back.. got bored of being mangala?

    Ravi Reply:

    I thought you had me in mind when I read that.

    Mohan, please take note.

    Do continue your research for your next book, the dust bins in Ansari Road still have room for manuscripts from delusional individuals.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    My current publisher will be on charring cross road .. UK, my agent tells me..

    U can check the dustbins there :)

    Ravi Reply:

    Don’t you worry; that is not far from Soho where some of your girlfriends have written, in large neon lights, tales of your inadequacies.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Wow !! lagata hai Engrich ke saath Tora bora mein honeymoon ke baad you have come here full battery discharged :)

    Or has Paksitan expelling Osama’s wives sent you to riyadh?

    Ravi Reply:

    Not really I was inspired by you rejuvenating yourself by sucking up to BV Shenoy

    Anonymous Reply:

    ’sucking up’ !!

    Now that is something.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    well you have Ravi;s cover now.

    Remember last time 4 against 1 sent all four back injured. Two disappeared from the blog :)

    Ravi Reply:

    Only possible because BVS is always standing on his soap box

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I am sure after studyign Manu singhvi’s CD many Congressis start jumping at the thought of sucking up :)

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Well you seriosly confessed on this blog that you were gobbing on Engrich’s phallus in a London gutter.

    I hope u did not bite.

    I think you should arise from teh gutter mentality and look at life positively

    Ravi Reply:

    You are imagining. I said I was giving BJs from the gutter…which by the way was first intitated by Rajeev Snake up his arse and then endorsed by you. Because neither of you have anything better to say than to indulge in personal abuse.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak ji says, “interesting observation”.

    Naturally, Pathakji, Fake identities and nakli chehre, should interest you more than anybody else!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I think Sanjay, Pathak, Devdutt and Mangalam all are one person.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Interesting observation.

    Ravi Reply:

    Vijay thinks I am Mangalam.

    It is funny, Shenoy and his cronies think Ravi is a FAKE name, so if Mangalam was me, then is that my true identity and is it Fake of a Fake.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do I need to argue my case?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt,

    You can if you want to remove the doubt or you can just chose to ignore.
    Your choice.

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    With all due respect to you.

    Why does Devdutt or for that matter any one else NEEDS to defend their chosen identity.

    Don’t know if you remember that Vinay came here and assured Shenoy, that Vinay was not his real name and that it was a name by which he has chosen to be known here.

    He hoped that as he was accepted as Vinay then so should be all others by what ever name they choose to use here.

    Why is it that Vinay is accepted but Devdutt, myslef and others are not?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Even I don’t know why somebody will need to change their ID, the person who is
    doing this is the right one to answer. This is my observation that all these four different
    IDs are of one person though I may be wrong.

    Anonymous Reply:

    recall my mustad oild ramdev lathi u poosie to ****.ramdev mustad oild lathi fix all.jaihind.

    Anonymous Reply:

    or made ‘kangla’ by the ISI not paying his dole?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Welcome back from your sabbatical.

    Ravi Reply:

    I was just observing from the back-benches

    Anonymous Reply:

    And when Abhishek Manu Zingvi does something out of his loose lungoat inside the supreme court(!), the congress runs for cover and its president’s tongue gets tied for months.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You can always file a RTI application or get in touch with Dr. Subramaniam Swamy to pursue it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The RTI has cost President Patil her Pune retirement home.

    Or, was it the media pressure?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Does it matter? The fact that she was forced to give it up is good enough.

    Only three presidents went back to stay in their own homes after their terms ended – Dr. Rajendra Prasad, Dr. S. Radhakrishnan and Mr. V. V. Giri.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Gopi

    Except for the HT and part of NDTV, Rahul G and Sonia G have got poor coverage. Headlines Today talks about black flags to Sonia and the very low attendence to Rahul where farmers were sceptical.

    Tomorrow’s healdines in Hindustan Times will be about Bangaru. However time that people start putting in PIl’s on Bofors and getting Qourochchi to croak out his master;s name…

    I think this will happen now…

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  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS……….BREAKING NEWS
    ==========++++++++++===============

    A 100 year old college in Mangalore BANS burqa
    ———-============————–=====================

    Surprise………Surprise……….Times Of India approves of the ban!

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shenoy Sahab;
    This is why I like you against so many odds. Will elaborate, if challanged.

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  • Ravi

    Vijay Kumar Khaploathya G

    I do remember the last battle. It could hardly be styled as 4 against 1, more like 5 individuals debating.

    However, I also noted that following morning a report was filed in by YOU. It was astonishing to read the debate being described as a battle, that you by your own judgement won. No one else either cared or accepted your self congratulatory verdict.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Cmon Ravi

    I have taken this as a challenge to change the mindset of people. And quite quite honestly I am working with a rather accomplished team of psychiatrists and psychologists on how mindsets can be changed.

    For a change it is Engineering principles to be used on the mind treating “thought’ which is a nueral command… as similar ot electric current flow in various mediums of different reistivity.

    One of the psychiatrists feeds this work to the UK government on how to REVERSE brainwash potential terrorists.

    Your poor dumb Vijay feeds them on various ways of accomplishing this in individual and group behaviour. A sort of Pavlov for the 21st century.

    I certainly believe that I have changed you and manohar to some extent. Engrich is a hard nut to crack.. but he would remain quiet for fear of being mocked before ground level brainwashing on his shows up.

    The more you hate me… makes me smile because I know deep down you acknowledge that I am right. Nobody wants to be labelled a nauker… so nobody will support dynastic succession on this blog openly.

    Everyone will now agree that the COngress was a national jewel taken over by corrupt trolls… and needs to be restored back to original glory.

    Nobody will support Pakistan blindly… and label nationalists who would want to be carefull as RSS … as they did an year back…

    Well the experiment is on… I dont want to give more details right now.

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    Ravi Reply:

    This would be incredibly funny, if it wasn’t said in that sad & serious tone.

    No one is able to change any one. Change comes from within.

    The more I read you the more you remind me of Edward ‘Teddy’ Daniels, from “Shutter Island”

    अपने हालात से में सुलह तो कर लूं लेकिन
    मुझ में इक शख्स जो मोजूद है वो मर जाये गा.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Well take it as funny if you must. It happens to be true. Psychologists and doctors tell me that I am not the worst guy in the field of getting ideas in… so that is good enough for me.

    Change happens when the facts presented to you convince you on what is right or wrong. In case you avenues of information coerce your mind along a certain path it is more to do with the value your mind attatches to each pice of information.

    To create war a psychology of hate is created by adding positive value to an act of hate. The American soldier who was subjugating the Gauntamano prisoner to electic current may well be a good beer mate. His brain has fed him nueral commands that his act of hate is actually a revenge fr the dead of 9/11

    The thousands of students from seminaries in Paksitan who are ready to wear the suicide jacket are convinced that thier act of blowing up innocents is no act of hate– but an action to make the world purer. It is the information and positive value attatched to the act of murder which gives them the nueral commands to do so.

    Ravi Reply:

    No matter how many FACTS (who will decide what is a FACT) are presented to anyone, the change only happens when these FACTS have comingled with what is already within one’s mind and as a result a NEW perspective is born. The change then takes place. Conditioning is not the same as change, it is just that conditioning.

    What you paddle here are your opinions, not FACTs, and that may be one very big reason as why you FAIL to change any one.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thanks for telling me about my failures ! :)

    Well now let us hear a lecture from you on why

    a) We should root for dynastic succession as we deserve to be siding with Somalia, Saudia,Norht korea, Cuba and pakisitan

    b) Let us also hear why we need to make the COngress degenerate more as this is the road– of corruption and loot– which is the need of the 21st century.

    Will wait for the answer as I plan to crash of soon…

    Beyond genetics it is all about conditioning. A guy with the same genes as me sitting in North Korea may be singing praises of the Kim Sung dynasty and its glory.

    While i spend time here, trying to rescue India from following that road.

    Ravi Reply:

    Here are my answers.

    A) I am not a supporter of dynastic succession. I do not know what gave you the idea that I was. However, we have an electoral process and ALL citizens of India are eligible to put themselves forward as candidates. From that point on, it is upto the electorate. If you think Rahul should not be unduly promoted, then exactly the same logic would suggest that one can not stop him being a candidate. Just as different ley lines of influence exist between the RSS and the net work of its franchises, similarly within the congress exist power battles/brokers etc who accept the supremacy and control of Sonia and co. No one forces them to.

    B) Corruption is a blight the affects every walk of life in India, congress is no exception. I wish my mother country was not associated with so much corruption. I am against corruption no matter who practices it – and that includes Congress.

    These views of mine have not changed since I was a youth in Karol Bagh.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay and Ravi;
    what a civil discussion. I am happy today.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “No one is able to change any one. Change comes from within”.

    You are wrong Ravi. If someone ‘imagines’ that he is Gautam Buddha or Mahavir or Guru Nanak, then he has the ‘power’ to change the world, besides ridding the Congress Party of its ruling family along with the ‘naukars’ and restore it to its former glory.

    There is no cure for hallucinations or for anyone choosing to live in a fool’s paradise, a paradise in which there are no Gujarati beggars. See if the following is logical. Modi does has refused to issue them passports. No Passports, they cannot travel to North India, so someone does not come across them, therefore that someone reaches a conclusion (RSS ishtyle) that there are no Gujarati beggars.

    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    Such a person only deludes themself and no one else.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Fake Ravi,

    Have you, by any chance heard of a Nepali called K.N.Subba?

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thank you sir.

    I m just a small guy who beleives that mental swaraj is everybody’s birthright. That is what I am attempting to do to you. Make you mentllly free to see the truth, away from six decades of being prejudiced.

    I think getting out of the mindset of naukercy would be a huge huge benefit to you sir…

    I am not here to make you a Modi Bhakt or a kishenji bhakt or a karat bhakt. I am here just to rescue you from naukercy…

    Do you still want to remain a nauker, sir?

    Anonymous Reply:

    My Khandaan has been in the business of naukarshahi of foreigners since the time of Emperor Akbar. After that it was British, How can I be different?

    Now my parivar is in the service of the fascist waitress, who along with her son ‘holds an Italian passport – that is a bonus for me. There is ’something special’ about being a minion to ‘phoreigners’. You will never understand the joy of being a bootlicker of ‘white skinned’ people.

    BTW: How they managed to ‘fool’ the Indian government, election commission, the courts and the country to get elected to the Parliament, being foreign nationals, is a mystery to me. Care to tell me how they did it – you are allowed to take the help of your ‘guru’?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    some people like this congressi troll love to wallow in their blissful ‘naukar’ mindset. He is in fact afraid to even think of a life free from the servile mentality. But, please keep up your good work of trying to change his pre-set mindset.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Remember your delusion that terrorists dont come by visa. That Mohammad Atta and gang, Masood azhar and gang, David headley and gang just dropped down as pigeon droppings form the sky…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do these psychiatrists get paid ? Are you the pay master ?

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I am just an idea giver and the analyser.

    Dev Dutt, unfortunately the world of science is a long haul. To measue everything in terms of money would be shallow.

    A guy sitting in the wholesale market in Chawri bazaar would have made more money in an year than APJ Kalam did in his lifetime.

    But who knows that wholesale merchant, beyond his family…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sometimes outlandish ideas help break the mould of the conventional thinking process. But most of the time they set the team on a wrong direction thus costing huge resources. Even thinking is a process. ‘What to think’ is a common element. But what really sets apart is ‘How to think’ component. It might sound a little weird that one needs to even decide how to think! Yes, that’s true. This sets the thinking process on a right direction, thereby reaching a solution faster. It’s like vaastu or chi of the thinking process.It sets a scientific framework for a freewheeling thinking process.

    Anybody can cut with the help of a scissor. But only a good sergon can put the body parts back in order. Perhaps that puts them in a special category. A sergon does not dare to attempt open the body parts unless he is confident to put them back in the right order.

    A bad sergon may goof up and mess up with a non vital body part. The patient may still live with a slight discomfort. But people who attempt to play with others’ brain should be extra careful. A bad attempt to orient a person’s thinking or behavioural pattern may create irrepairable damage. The attempt should never be a frivolous one.Sometimes the person my get away because the damage to the affected person may not be obvious immediately and the accountability is not possible. But an intelligent person must know where to stop. Because he is aware of his limitation.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    keep the good work going.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thanks Pankaj

    Off for my jog… but your words will inspire me…

    Anonymous Reply:

    The battle, in fact, was so decisive, you disappeared from the scene badly mauled and your sidekick is still licking his wounds. Coupled with the advent of Manu Zingvi’s sex-exploits and the lightening shocks it gave your fellow trolls, all of you were seen to have beaten hastry retreats.

    And most funnily, Sanjay was so badly demoralised, he has taken sanyas and was last seen, a couple of days ago, near Rishikesh, showing his palm to a sadhu!

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    Ravi Reply:

    In your frookhabadi dreams

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  • Anonymous

    Who after Modi?

    Sometimes I think it would be nice to have an OBC leader like Modi to be the PM after a minority Sikh.

    But who will take over Gujrat? Will Gujrat be same after Modi?

    Will the next leader be as powerful? Will he make sure that Modi never returns to Gujrat? Will he spill the beans?

    After a little tentative move, Modi has shown reluctance to move out of Gujrat, perhaps after the rebel of few police men and seeing what Gowda could do to Yeddi in Karnataka.

    Will Modi really step out of Gujrat?

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    Ravi Reply:

    Dev

    Running a state is significantly different to running a federation of states where regional powers have recently over asserted their rights.

    So what do you think. Will he?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Interesting scenario. Who do you think will succeed Modi in Gujarat if he moves to the National stage? Patel?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr. Manmohan Singh was chosen as the Prime Minister not because he was a Sikh.

    What happens to Modi will be known only after the Gujarat elections in December this year and that decision will be taken by Mohan Bhagwat – the head of the family. Other than SS and SAD, other allies of the BJP probably will not play ball with it – if Modi is in the picture.

    The best bet from the NDA side would be Nitish Kumar and he would make sure that Modi is nowhere in the picture.

    However, with both the Congress and the BJP in one royal mess – we may see a spell 4th front or 5th front or whatever of the regional parties ruling the roost, provided they cross 272+ seats combined. That will throw up its own challenges – too many ‘Prime Ministers-in-waiting’. Nitish Kumar would be the front runner. This may not last for too long – with the likes of mercurial Amma, Behenji and Didi, no one will know what will happen in the next 25 minutes.

    The other scenario will make things even more complicated – if the total of the Congress and the BJP seats exceed 272+ seats, then the 4th front will need the (outside) support of one of them and the rug can be pulled at any time. They both have done it previously and will not hesitate to do so again.

    Exciting times are ahead.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What Gujarat will be like post Modi?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It is all a big myth that Gujarat today is ‘great’ because of him, the CMs before him have been equally business friendly, because the ‘Dhandaa’ of the Gujaratis is ‘Dhandaa’. Period. Gujarat will continue its march – Modi or no Modi. Other states are not just sitting idle twiddling their thumbs either.

    During his tenure of 10 years, Gujarat has risen to 5th position from 7th at the time he took over – not an earth shattering achievement by any yardstick.

    Post Modi, there may be a greater reconciliation between the various religious communities. I hope so.

    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    I look forward to reading the reactions of Modi’s cheer leaders here.

    I can predict what they would be, but it will still be interesting to read their reactions to your very realistic evaluation of Modi’s achievements.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Let us see how many will venture to debate the issue.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi

    None of the cheerleaders have had the nerve to come forward and have dispassionate debate.

    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    If the scenario you describe becomes a reality, then we need a PM who is able to accommodate aspirations of powerful regional leaders. He will need to stitch together a coalition which acts regionally but thinks nationally.

    I am certain that these are not skills which Mr Modi is blessed with.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Whether his supporters here and elsewhere like it or not and remain in denial, he is still a divisive figure and practically most parties would have nothing to do with him. His vote-catching skills outside of Gujarat are suspect. He was a disaster in 2009. Even his fellow BJP CMs did not want him around. Wherever he campaigned, the BJP did badly. This is the reality and the RSS/BJP honchos know that. His unacceptability internationally is another huge factor. You cannot have PM with whom the others are reluctant to shake hands.

    His only chance is that BJP on its own gets 272+ seats. However, the BJP has shown that its peak is around 180 seats at the height of its popularity and that too with the help 20+allies plus with Vajpayee at the helm. Since then it is a downhill. In the last two years or so, the UPA has given enough gift boxes to the BJP and as Gopi rightly says, they do not even know how to unwrap the boxes. The boxes have been stolen by the regional parties.

    Then there are other claimants in the BJP – Sushma Swaraj and Arun Jaitely (lest not forget L K Advani and Nitin Gadkari fancies his chances too) who are not going to hand over the crown to Modi on a platter just like that.

    IMO and I have said it before, Manohar Parrikar, the Goa CM, is BJP’s best bet.

    Mohan Bhagwat has tough job on his hands.

    Ravi Reply:

    ‘A’ class analysis and correct conclusion.

    Anonymous Reply:

    fit only for c class fakes like you.

    Ravi Reply:

    Beyond “Z” class fundos like you

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Yaar, just because his name is Manohar you want him to be the PM candidate of BJP,
    but don’t forget that, I, Mohan have power to not to choose you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good one!

    Anonymous Reply:

    This may sound immodest, I know a winning horse when I see one. What has anyone’s name has anything to do with it.

    Haven’t you read Shobha De’s wrtite-up?

    A champion horse will be a champion whether he is named Goslow or Runfast.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mmm…you got touchy.Did you?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Not at all. I keep having such exchanges with Mohan.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Manohar is a very serious type of person and sometimes he does not take a joke as a joke only.
    Thats fine with me, I will not change my habit.

    Anonymous Reply:

    grouchy would more accurately describe him

    Anonymous Reply:

    MOHAN,

    please don’t forget that your namesake, couldn’t win his own South Delhi seat and lost badly, still is ruling the country for the last eight years.

    Outside of Delhi, Manmohan Singh is also NOT known to have won even a single municipal seat for his party. He himself may not be divisive, but he sided with the killers of 4000 Sikhs and even protected them all these last 27 years, only once saying a feeble, “we are sorry for the anti-Sikh pogrom of 1984″, which didn’t fool even a single Sardar anywhere.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yet gave 2 full terms of a stable Government, a glory that a very few can claim!

    Anonymous Reply:

    After Modi exits Gujrat, the congress may try to stage a come-back andpractise to play its own time tested two-nation theory. The state will return to its pre-2002 state of communal tension and riots, because the state has a history of riots.

    MODI MAY, NO CHANGE IT TO WILL NEVER ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. CONGRESS MAY HAVE TO WAIT FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER DECADE TO HAVE A TRY AT GETTING BACK TO POWER IN GUJARAT.

    IN THE MEANTIME, THE PSEUDO SECULARS HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD TO “APPLY” CLOSURE TO 2002 RIOT VICTIMS AS SUGGESTED BY FAKE RAVI.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I believe people were discussing about a probable BJP candidate in Gujarat when Modi moves to the National politics. Did you miss such obvious reference by chance, or by choice?

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  • Anonymous

    They must be all gays.

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  • Anonymous

    Pathak,

    If you remove your blinkers you will know that I m an interesting person.

    Waiting for a sarcastic comment .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I know in a blink that you are an interesting person.

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  • Anonymous

    Discuss is again playing funny. My last to posts which were replies to Shenoy and Pathak
    have appeared on top.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Who is mangala?

    MOhan guesses he is PathakG. I have my doubts. PathkG is not at loggerheads with any person till now to make the effort to don a different wig.

    however here are a few facts which wil help us all zero on who Mangala is

    a) He hates Vijay, Shenoy, Balwinder, Rajeev, Dr mishra, Rajiiv

    b) He deliberatly tries to use Engrich type English to sound disjointed and throw the scent away from himself. For mangala the grammer is made to look bad in a fake manner.

    c) His postings come at a time which are between 1 pm to 4.30 am India time.

    d( he lives in a makebeleive world of RSS, Ramdev all being one pitted against the good guys…

    SO GUYS ANY PRIZES FOR GUESSING WHO THIS BEHROOPIYA IS ?????????

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    Ravi Reply:

    If this is how you conduct research, then God bless the Psychiatrists, particularly those who take undue advantage of their patients.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If he loves fake Ravi, he is definitely engrich writing when he dressesup in a salwar kameez.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    u fly long patang all time in empty sky.yes hate all 3 poosies to ****.2 real fiters mising.mustad oild ramdev lathi is my only roop.jaihind.

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  • Anonymous

    The most important factor for an electoral candidate -

    What is the most important factor that a political party looks in a probable party candidate? Be it a political party in the USA or UK or Germany or India!

    NRI bloggers may give their valuable input on the local practices.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ PathakG

    The most important factor is that he should represent the core values of the country and win on basis of explaining his agenda. He should be clean.

    In contrast in India It is about family where sycophants who derive benefits from being naukers of the family create an IPL cheerleader type atmosphere that family ko seva karmna hamaara karm hai. needless to say these naukers create spin on massive Bofors like Corruption, the decimation of democracy by decmating free choice.

    In return these trolls get positions, contracts, power and soetimes just satisfaction that they have served the master and maalik well.

    Imagine what would have happened in US had Clinton nominated Chelsea as President choice. In UK if Churchull would have said that now conservatives belong to the CHurchill khandaan… Willy Brandt claim that ab mere baand brandt khandaan…

    In contrast few countries like Saudia, Pakistan, cuba and North Korea follow the other path.

    You as a mature person have to help India choose the right path .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How do we choose the most important factor for selecting an electoral candidate from your reply?

    What does a party see in a candidate before it selects for the job in USA?

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    The US makes sure that its core value of democracy and merit comes in. That is why the candidate debates and addresses free for all media conferences.

    his track record in various jobs is checked. His or Her finances are under scrutiny. foreign accounts, links with questionable kickback takers would be probed and punished.

    In sharp contrast the main Party which was our national jewel props up a candidate based on family; he or she is not competent to address the media… but the paid media drools and pants over him or her. The family link to gory massive scams like Bofors is never probed honestly.

    The iItalian busineesman whoc could only be a front for the real chor is allowed to fly like a pigeon.

    Do you thiink the US will eever project such a candidate? Give and honest answer.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What does the Republican or Democrat party look for in a probable candidate before selecting him?

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I know what you are getting at. I will say please read my post above and get the answer.

    Of course you will say winnabilty… morality and honesty be damned. Then I will only tell you to have a broader vision for a better India free from dynastic sycophancy… :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Is ‘winnability’ the most important factor deciding a candidate for any level of election for any political party in USA,UK,Germany,Japan or matter of fact any country?

    Do you need any feedback on this from our NRI/local blogger friends on this or you are sure of it?

    Anonymous Reply:

    In your earlier avtar as Sanjay, you had agreed NOT to bore the rest of the bloggers by stretching arguments to ridiculous lengths, as you are doing now.

    Please, Sanjayji/Pathakji, jokes naihi sahi, par………….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do you agree with Vijay that ‘winnability’ is the most important factor any political party anywhere in the World consider before selecting any candidate ?

    Perhaps Gopi can pitch in.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Hey you have twisted the whole thing congress style. I said winnability keeping core values like merit NOT FAMILY. The ability to handle media… not be MAUN in front of paid media…

    Anonymous Reply:

    3 simple steps from first to last. All these months you have been wondering longwith Gopi about the candidate selection process in USA ! Look for answers. Don’t get stuck up with our questions.

    By the way, it’s the same process in BJP too.

    Anonymous Reply:

    PathakG ji,

    I don’t know ‘what is the most important factor for a candidate, but I know what an Indian presidential candidate should undertake to do and not to do:

    1. The president should restrict his travel expenses to a maximum of 10 crores per annum.

    2. On foreign tours he should take only one cook.

    3. As the Rashtrapathi Bhawan is full of naukars, he should not take any specially designated naukar.

    4. He should take only two or three Asst.editors from the media selected on lots.

    5. Post retirement, he should agree to stay in a rented house or apartment in a city of his choice as per HM norms.

    Other “adjustments” can be made by him with a view to maintain austeriry and also simplicity.

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  • Anonymous

    Good morning guys.

    Wife is like langar parsad, jitna chaho aap isme koi nuks nahin nikal sakte.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan
    What is you blood group – Be, G, R, W or V?

    ————-
    Be = Beer
    G = Gin
    R = Rum
    W = Whisky
    V = Vodka

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    Anonymous Reply:

    (: (:

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  • Anonymous

    Quintuplets beat odds to clear Grade 10 exams.

    http://gulfnews.com/news/world/india/quintuplets-beat-odds-to-clear-grade-10-exams-1.1014921

    Heartwarming interesting story from Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala.

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  • Anonymous

    More on Manohar Parrikar
    ————————————

    Breaking the CM mould
    Shobha De

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/politically-incorrect/entry/breaking-the-cm-mould

    Excerpts

    Can you believe it? He came to this dinner by cab! Yes, he actually took one of our Mumbai taxis. Oh, that’s him… the guy in that simple, blue linen shirt. No bodyguards, no entourage.” The ‘him’ in question was Goa’s newly minted chief minister Manohar Parrikar. And the reason Mumbai was gasping is easy to understand. Parrikar travels light. In every sense of the word. This was his coming-out party, in a way.

    —————-

    If Parrikar was aware of all the flattering comments floating around, he did a pretty good job of playing dumb, mixing easily with a cross-section of Mumbai’s elite.

    —————-

    Overheard that evening were comments like, “He speaks good English! He is articulate and soft-spoken. He doesn’t chew paan or pop paan masala into his mouth. Why, he even drinks beer! He is one of us.” The verdict was unanimous: Parrikar is kosher – a man of the world. A sophisticate. Someone who can be safely invited to a glamorous soiree without the hosts worrying about any faux pas being committed. Plus, he has a sense of humour – he joked about the billionaire quotient on the lawns.

    ———

    Read on and put Modi on the back burner for a while.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Thank god he is not a teetotaler, at least he drinks beer.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A teetotaler Goan is an oxymoron 99.99% of the time. ;-)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    It is not like that, I know many Goans who only drink once
    a day.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And you, how many times in a day?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    @ PathakG

    I am more than careful while discussing ideas and solutions with psychiatrists. Ultimately they are the therapists. I am just a model evolver of implementation.

    There are many many many cases now successfully treated . This is not the forum to discuss that

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When you discuss ideas with the psychriatists, you are amongst the professionals. They know their responsibilities. They take ideas from many sources, filter or blend, calibrate before implementing. The ultimate responsibilities are theirs. You must be careful when you work solo. Sometimes a method may look simple but truly my not be so simplistic as it looks. I describe simplicity as ‘managed complexity’ . So one must be careful in trying out even a simple idea from another domain. Just be careful when you use brain remapping as a tool without professional guidance. Tools and methods are selected keeping the overrall impact in mind, not just the local impact.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There are many psychiatrists who themselves need treatmen or are confirmed psychos; many take advantage of beautiful patients in an unprofessional way.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    I wanted to become a psychiatrist because of beautiful patients
    but due to unavoidable circumstances I had to come to Dubai
    at a very young age. I think I can still try, let me think about
    that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Older the better.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Like how Manu Zingvi played with the female lawyer?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Did you miss such pleasure in your lifetime? You sound envious !You may quietly slide a book on kamsutra under the pillow ( a portion deliberately jotting out ) and go for a night walk ALONE.When you are back, you would be ready for a pleasant surprise! It’s never late for such pleasure.

    ( Just make sure you paid your driver his past 6 months salary. And yes, do not forget to switch off the light before you slide into bed. )

    Ravi Reply:

    PathakG

    He prefers buggering his muslim employees

    Anonymous Reply:

    Your personal experience will definitely help the fake Ravi with his jihadi bedfellow engrich in their gutter-bunker.

    Your tip on switching off the light certainly shows you are not an ordinary khiladi in the games of the kind Manu Zingvi played.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like you are genuinely deprived! Not even this, which needs barely any effort on your part?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    I would have loved to become your ‘compounder’.

    You are still capable of playing psychic-tricks on your readers here.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Then you would have opened a clinic in some by lane claiming to be an experienced real doctor by just peddling all the mixtures you learnt from Mohan!

    Anonymous Reply:

    and successfully cure people like Sanjay of their obsession with fair skin and dynasty naukari.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Quacks always make tall claims.

  • Anonymous

    In search of Manto

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/12917883.cms

    The man who wrote some of Partition’s most poignant stories lies almost forgotten in the land he was born in. A month before his birth centenary, Sunday Times treks to his village to see its people working hard to resurrect his legacy.

    Every time young Sa’adat came down to Paproudi for his vacation, Ujagar Singh knew exactly what needed to be done. In the small, quiet village in Punjab’s Samrala tehsil the friends had their own ritual. Grab some makki ki roti and sarson ka saag and meet at their regular hangout – the common well in fellow villager Kartar Singh’s fields. Or as they fondly put it, “Kartaarey da khoo” . That was where they would bathe, eat and while away time playing football.

    ——–

    Read on.

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  • Anonymous

    SOME MORE ON MANOHAR PARIKAR
    ====================================

    CM flies the way you and I do

    While returning to Delhi from Goa yesterday, I was pleasantly surprised to find the chief minister of Goa, BJP’s Manohar Parrikar, on the same flight. No, this isn’t the first time I was on board with a CM, a senior minister or a politician. But what I saw – right from the time he boarded the aircraft till the moment he exited the airport building at New Delhi – impressed me so much that it has stayed with me till now and has made me write this piece.

    I tried to remember when was the last time I saw a CM or a senior political leader of Mr Parrikar’s stature queuing up like a common man to board a flight. No flunkeys, no security, no attendant, carrying his own luggage – and he was flying economy on a low-cost carrier, not first-class on a full services airline. He wasn’t the last to enter the flight nor was the flight held up for him to arrive.
    He walked into the Go Air aircraft like any average passenger, almost unnoticed, and well in time. Like everyone else, he queued at the gate, boarded the bus, and climbed into the plane when his turn came. He didn’t sit in the first row which has become the exclusive preserve of the high and mighty on flights that have no first class. He quietly slipped into row three (or was it row four) and sat there without any fuss. I think most people on the aircraft didn’t realise who he was and therefore no attempt was made to mob him or try and catch his attention.
    The cabin crew spent no more time attending to him than they did to any other passenger.

    When I shared this with a colleague who was travelling with me, he said, “I am sure the airline would have left the seat next to him unoccupied or his office would have booked two seats so that he is not disturbed.” But when I went to attend to nature’s call, I realised on my way back that this was not the case. All seats in his row were occupied and absolutely no special privilege seemed to have either been demanded or offered. Yes, he did have an aisle seat – as did two people in every row.
    When the flight landed in Delhi, he wasn’t the first to get off it. Usually, it is only when the VIP is ushered into a special car waiting for him at the tarmac (with a suitable red light mounted on the roof of the car), that the other passengers are allowed to deplane. In this case, neither was he the first to disembark, nor was there a car waiting. Nobody came to receive him on the tarmac and he boarded the same bus which took all other passengers to the airport terminal. Again, he carried his own luggage (two pieces) right up to the car which came to fetch him.
    While in the bus, a couple of co-passengers did recognise him and began to chat with him. The conversation which followed left me in no doubt that he was not just a gentleman but very understated in his demeanour. Dressed in a simple but formal shirt and trousers and black sandals, he didn’t look or sound like a typical politician. Having worked in the news business for a while, I did know that he is the first IIT-ian to head a state government in India. I had also heard that he was trying to clean up the murky world of Goa politics. But what I observed first-hand left me pleasantly surprised.
    I am not a resident of Goa and therefore not in a position to cast my vote for Mr Parrikar – in a political sense. But purely from a personal standpoint, he has my vote for the kind of person he seems to be.
    I had gone to Goa to attend the Network18 Leadership Meet and I learned my last lesson of leadership this weekend watching Mr Parrikar from a distance.
    Mr Parrikar, take a bow!

    Ravi (THIS ONE IS REAL, NOT A FAKE LIKE WE KNOW WHO)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Till a few years back, this used to be a standard case. I would come across many politicians carry their own baggages from the airport and just slide into their designated seats without any fuss. They would keep reading or indulge in small chats during the flight. I have sat next to few of them and have never tried to be extra friendly except for talking some broad topics. But in today’s time, Manohar to carry that old world charm on his sleeve is quite impressive. Kudos.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But, how did you slide so badly as to become an appendage of the party of sycophants?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are wrong. I am always steadfast with my ideas, conviction and standing, even thorough seemingly disastrous crisis.

    Anonymous Reply:

    even to the extent of defending Manu Zingvi’s sex act with a fellow lawyerni inside the supreme court?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Is he for real ? After reading this my regards for him have grown manifold,
    but I am wondering will he able to survive for long in this world of dirty politics.
    For how long he will be able to stop his colleagues/subordinates from making
    money in a dubious way.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    I am very proud to say he is a fellow Konkani. Some months back his predecessor, Digambar kamat, also a fellow Konkani, was honoured in Mangalore by the World Konkani Centre (my elder brother is the President of WKC). SHortly Manohar Parrikar too will be honoured.

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    Ravi Reply:

    कौन कौन लोग बहुत होशियार होते हैं एक मुख्या मंत्री बन गया और दूसरे को संघ की शाखा में लिंग चूसने की प्रविधि प्रदर्शित करने का उत्तरदायित्व दिया गया है

    Anonymous Reply:

    aur aap ko ek mauka mila tha, aapne apne aap ko terrorist banaa ke gawa diya! Desh ke saath gaddari kiya !!!!

    Ravi Reply:

    इंडिया के खिलाफ यहाँ सिर्फ एक गद्दार है और वोह है तूं

  • Anonymous

    What happens if you don’t allow your girls to study.

    In Afghanstan all the ATMs are jammed because ladies put their hairpins
    when the instructions ” Enter the Pin” was displayed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Perhaps the stupidity of the so called software professionals to be blamed. They might have used auto-translation for the messaging in the system. This kind of embarrassment has happened in many cases particularly in the cases of internationalisation of the softwares.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And what happens if you don’t allow your boys to study?

    They become engriches and fake Ravis who train suicide bombers.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Just like they do in every shakha in the country

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  • Anonymous

    Can anyone imagine how many scams we have had in our country ?

    * President of
    India’s land grab scandal -
    President of India
    Pratibha Patil allegedly
    grabbed 2,61,000 sq ft of defence land in Khadki Cantonment, Pune and built
    a home on it
    [1]
    [2]
    [3]
    [4]
    * Coal Mining Scam -
    Central government lost 1,070,000
    crore ( US$213.47
    billion) by not Auctioning Coal Blocks says

    CAG’s 110 page draft report

    [5]
    [6]
    [7]
    *
    Karnataka Wakf Board Land Scam – 200,000
    crore (
    US$39.9 billion)
    [8]
    [9]
    * Andhra Pradesh land
    scam – 100,000 crore (

    US$19.95 billion)
    [10]
    *
    Service Tax and
    Central Excise Duty fraud – 19,159
    crore ( US$3.82 billion)
    crore)
    [11]
    [12]
    * Gujarat
    PSU financial
    irregularities – 17,000 crore (
    US$3.39 billion)
    [13]
    [14]

    THIS IS NOT EVEN HALF OF THE ACTUAL LIST I HAVE.

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  • Anonymous

    Maharashtra
    stamp duty scam – 640
    crore (
    US$127.68 million)
    [15]
    [16]
    *
    Highway scam – 70 crore (
    US$13.97 million)
    [17]
    [18]
    [19]
    *

    Ministry of External Affairs gift scam
    [20]
    [21]
    [22]
    * Himachal Pradesh
    pulse scam

    [23]
    [24]
    * Flying Club fraud – 190 crore
    ( US$37.91 million)
    [25]
    * Andhra Pradesh liquor
    scam
    [26]
    [27]
    *
    Jammu
    and Kashmir Cricket Association scam – Approximately 50
    crore (
    US$9.98 million)
    [28]
    [29]
    * Jammu and Kashmir
    PHE scam

    STILL LONG WAY TO GO.

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  • Anonymous

    [30]
    * Jammu and Kashmir
    recruitment scam
    [31]
    * Jammu and Kashmir
    examgate
    [32]
    [33]
    * Jammu and Kashmir
    dental scam
    [34]
    * Punjab
    paddy scam – 18
    crore (
    US$3.59 million)
    [35]
    [36]
    * NHPC cement scam
    [37]
    * Girivan (Pune) land scam
    [38]
    (not to be confused with Pune land scam which came to light during 2011)

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  • Anonymous

    edit]2011

    * Uttar
    Pradesh NRHM scam – 10,000 crore (
    US$2 billion)
    [39]
    [40]
    [41]
    [42]
    [43]
    *
    ISRO’s S-band scam (also known as ISRO-Devas deal, the deal was later
    called off) – 200,000 crore (
    US$39.9 billion)
    [44]
    [45]
    [46]
    [47]
    *
    KG Basin Oil scam
    [48]
    [49]
    [50]
    [51]
    [52]
    * Goa mining scam
    [53]
    [54]
    *
    Bellary mining scam
    *
    Bruhat Bengaluru Mahanagara Palike scam – 3,207
    crore (
    US$639.8 million)
    [55]
    [56]
    [57]
    [58]
    * Himachal Pradesh
    HIMUDA housing scam

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  • Anonymous

    I have still not reached half way stage, but I am tired now. Will post others later.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Why bother to collect, when you can create pages!
    Ask your DTP guy to create pages on daily basis, whenever he is relatively free. Anybody can create a page on Wikipedia. You know which group is hyperactive on the internet!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Just try to go through few of these pages and tell me whether any
    of this is not true.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Have they already demolished the house Pratibha Patil built on 2,61,000 sqft land that she ‘grabbed’ in Pune?

    Please check the link you have provided.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Of all the links I have provided you chose to mention
    this because scam was not allowed to happen due
    to one honest person who through RTI brought this
    issue in limelight.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do not shift the goal post. I barely took 2 sec to look at your own list after you asked me to go through and check the authenticity. I did not do any special research on your list or your intent.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Aap ki nazar ki daad deni chahiye.
    From the list of more then 50 links
    you spotted this one.
    Maan gaye aapko.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Eyes are trained to detect the deviations instantly. It helped me survive in a very violent world.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    In violent world? Bhai mere are you any way
    connected to Dawood
    Ibrahim ? (: (:

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ha ha…Lagta hai bhai aap pe meherbaan hai!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    Dawood Ibrahim and Vinod Sharma are separated, though not at birth, but they are related by violence.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Can any sane person…….. ?

    Remember your own words not very few hours ago!

    Anonymous Reply:

    I think you are forgetting that you have to “act” Sanjay’s role here.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, he detected this fraud out of fifty in a jiffy, because this WAS AND IS THE FRAUD THAT WAS NOT ALLOWED TO REACH ITS FINISH. THE FRAUDSTER CALLED PRATIBHA PATIL WAS RUN OUT BY ANOTHER PATIL.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You took just two seconds to fish out the incomplete fraud. Bedcause you know the rest of them are absolutely true.

    That is the advantage one gets by being an insider.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That was like M M Joshi filing his reports of interviews of the Govt. officials even before they were called for interview. It’s in the blood.Or, shall I say in DNA?

    Anonymous Reply:

    DNA and NDA – any difference?

    Anonymous Reply:

    ‘N’egativity shifts to the fore.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Or Amar Singh “creating” a fake CD and passing it on to our dear friend Vinod Sharma as genuine one?.

    And Vinodji going public with a fake CD?

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    One needs to check out how many crores were wasted before the RTI guy caught Pratibha in the act.

    Anonymous Reply:

    At half way stage, it is good to stop awhile and ponder:

    Alcohol is a perfect solvent:
    It dissolves marriages, families and careers.

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  • Anonymous

    I know it is very depressing reading about scams.
    Meanwhile just watch this. I am sure you all will enjoy this card trick.
    At least I have never seen this earlier.

    http://www.youtube.com/v/Uh0CMcLiRkw%26feature%3dshare

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Parrikar seems t%o be an interesting guy. I hope he does;nt fall into the trap of populism.

    His lowering of Petro prices sent a message to the centre that we are overtaxed anyway. But to lower it to 0.1 % level could also mean losing a source of big revenue.

    So he has to keep a balance. On one side of the populist trap is Mamta– a hige faiure of after a few months of rule. Little brain, no acumen, only hysteria

    There is another engineer who has shown that his brains and prefessional qualification can help change things rapidly. And that guy is Nitish Kumar.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    @ Mohan

    A huge list of scams.

    I have a feeling tht the BJP let go of the COngress too easily in the Manu ZIngvi yaun Shoshan case. If the COngress gets such a handle, all its MPs. paid media and trolls would do a one month Public bhangra

    The FUNNIEST part is the intervention of Sonia Gandhi on the Bofors scam in Lok Sabha. She had nothing to say abotu Quotrochchi. Rajiv Ganhdi and the kickbacks. Instead she got up and blamed BJP for getting Amitabh Bchchan into the picture.

    Imagine Amitabh had to bear the taint for 2 decades… the so called close friend of Rajiv.

    Could she not have announced in 1990 itself that Amitabh is innocent and only Ottavio Quotrochchi and Rajiv have a link to the kickbacks??

    Kya aaj dosti ka matlab, dost ko phasaana hai?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Italian blood is thicker than Indian water.

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  • Anonymous

    Okay, let’s say it was not his best. Hope you would be around to enjoy his next. Keep visiting.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    @ Pathakg

    Could not Sonia G have announced in 1990 that Amitabh is innocent in Bofors kickbacks as the money has gone to Ottavio Ji and rajiv ji only?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like you are missing your running trees and mountains badly. Look out of the window.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I will be singing a song when I walk thru the trees

    Jungle mein bofors ka chor naacha
    Kisne dekha, Maine dekha

    hai..

    This is part of the old hindi film song. I hope you love it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And catch up with the running trees.

    Anonymous Reply:

    why this kolai veri di, whenever we refer to Bofors kick back and Q?

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  • Anonymous

    Pathak-

    The political parties do not nominate/select any candidate in any US election, be it local city, state, senate/house, or presidency. The function of political party organization is mainly for fund collection, state party infrastructre, voter registration, etc.

    The candidates generally are selected by the individual party members through a gruelling process called “primary’.

    For example, the primary process for presidential candidate, MPs (senators), MLAs, governors etc for the november election is happening across all the sates now.

    In the republican primary for president, several people contested – Romney, Gingrich, Perry, Bachman, Paul, Santorum , Cain etc. Romney is leading in the delegate count; all others xcept Paul have backed out; so Romey will most probably be the republican candidate- The actual nominatuion happens in the party convention , this year in August in Tampa.
    There is no primary contest for presidential candidate for the democratixc party this election, because nobody has come against Obama. If you remember, Obama won a gruelling primary against the formidable Mrs Clinton four years ago.

    “conservatives” are preferred i n republican primaries – partly because only “hard core” party members bother to vote in the primaries – this year the conservative vote was split between Santorum and gingrich and Paul; thus helping Romney.

    I can elaborate further if you have any questions.
    One thing – the primary election process is not consistent across states – in some it is winner takes all; in others it is proportional; in some it is allocated by who won the majority in each prliamentary constituency. Also in some states they allow crossover – ie a demcrat can vote in a republican primary, or a independent can vote for a dem or repub candidate.

    i can elaborate on any aspect if you have more questions.
    BH

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Cheers Benoy !!

    Your post will clear the air once for all for the khandani naukars who wish to foist one single family for their own personal gain.

    I think we need to remind them that India’s place has to be with the US, UK, France and Australia. And not with north korea, Cuba, somalia, saudia, Pakistan.

    Not surprisingly new democracies like Sri lanka, South Africa, Isreal have marched ahead of us.

    While nakercy like Egypt, Syria, Libya have given a boot to the looting royal famimlies !!

    This wont elicit the answer from people you ask for…as they have none !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Khanna , before any grandiose project to reform political system , INDIA SHOULD LEGISLATE COMPULSORY LEGALLY BINDING SCHOOL ATTENDANCE TILL AGE 16 , failing to do so should land PARENTS IN JAIL LIKE IN UK

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    Anonymous Reply:

    India is making effort with RTE. This is a fairly good effort.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I think that is very very very important. We have thousands of school buildings in all states which are underutilised becasue BOTh teachers and students are empty…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr Shan-

    I believe there are rules on the books, money is “budgeted” – but as usual the bureaucrats and Mayawatis and Karunanidhis steal…

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not sure about south, but 90% teachers in Delhi indulge in full time petty politics.For our kind information more than 90% of that category are active BJP supporters.

    Anonymous Reply:

    99% of journalists in the north also work for the congress party. Whether that is acceptable?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Anna and Team get Max response in Delhi/North. Does it say anything?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Indira Gandhi, when she was shamed and humiliated on the world scene due to the imposition of emergency, she called for elections to give some sort of legitimacy, hoping that she would win the post emergency elections.

    Sonia Gandhi too must have been sounded by thinkers like Vinod Sharma about the criticism of her dynasty-driven party and it looks like she wants to give some kind of legitimacy to her family rule, by studying how candidates are ’selected’ in the US.

    PathakG ji, I hope now after this ‘explanation’ from Binoy, you can “intimate” 10 Janpath the collective opinion of this house.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When people fight for primary, what is the primary basis they win their votes?
    That the person has fairer chance of winning the final race.

    A democrat voting for a republican candidate is like a deviant from a vote bank…almost like a muslim voting for Gadkari.

    Please do not presume I am just casually brushing away your argument. But ‘winnability’ still remains as the central premise. If a charismatic leader closes a perceptible gap, then he most probably wins the residual floating votes or even cross votes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Individuals vote based on various premises; for some it will be the eventual winnability against the other party’s candidate.

    Obama won the primary against Mrs Clinton, not because any winnability consideration – the general concensus was any decent democratic candidate will win against a republican, because of the woes created by the republican George Bush.

    Obama won mainly because he understood all the arcane rules of primary (winner take all, county by county, caucaus vs primary, specific registration requirements etc; and won against Mrs Clinton who had significant money and “establishment support”.

    Romney did not win any of the southern states that are considered very conservative, very much dominated by evangelical christians. Now, although he did not win primary in those states, most of the people there will vote for him in general elections because they hate Obama more.

    “Winnability” is a factor mostly on the vested interest side – lobbyists, specific businesses etc; but not on the people who vote. So, they spend money allowable within the guidelines on advertising etc “promoting” their candidate.

    This election will see untold money spent by “Super Pacs” (super political action committees) promoting specific candidates, mostly republicans. A landmark decision by the Supreme Court last year declared “businesses are people from an election perspective – they have the right to advocate for their issues”.. So unlimited money can be spent as long as they do not have direct connection with the candidate. American democracy will be in peril unless this new law is over turned by a new Congress. But it will be a cat and mouse game because business will not let this newfound power go, they will advertise against any move to take this away.

    An Obama or a Marco Rubio (the rising star on the republican side, often mentioned as a potential VP candidate for Romeny) etc cannot happen in India where a party insider nomination system is the norm.

    FYI Rubio came from nowhere and defeated a popular republican governor (Charlie Crist) in the republican primary for Senate in florida. Rubio, a 32 year son of a Cuban immigrant

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Americans love underdogs and dark horses. There was a huge contrast between Obama and Clinton. They were from opposite ends.And Obama had that spark. He held on to his ground and fired the imagination. When the competition is fierce, win ability becomes the driving force, else people don’t mind taking chances.

    We can take any circuitous route, but ‘winnability’ eventually comes to fore.

    Trust me, actually you don’t have to even make that effort, ‘winnability’ is the sole criteria in any ‘perfect competitive situation/market’, unless you are in a monopoly situation.

    Now, let’s ask ourselves – are we in a perfect competitive political situation here in India ?
    Have we created enough political equity with a strong opposition?
    Have we created a good product and service as an alternative to the dominant brand?
    What ‘winnability’ factor have we added to our alternative product?
    Do we expect the dominant brand to just vanish away by crying hoarsh that the product is bad?
    People do not want to live in a vacuum. They want a real alternative – not some pseudo alternative.

    Do you want to replace the main brand in the market, then go invest in your product, branding first.

    Say “Buy me”.
    Don’t say – “Why are you buying brand X”.

    Anyway, when the top mentor of the opposition is busy creating only slogans as if he has still been writing film reviews, you do not expect a real opposition from his party.

    The opposition needs a real leadership than worrying why the dominant party has a particular leader.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Indian party system – whether Congress, BJP, or regional parties – functions like family enterprises; some, such as Congress, more than others. Indian system is destined in perpetuity for “family” type arrangements, as long as the party decides who the candidate should be, rather than the grass root party members/voters deciding who should represent them that constituency. It is a big change, but unless something like that happens, you will see the family control, the breakway regional parties, parties within parties etc, that is not good for stability and strategic planning.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Indians love their families. They work like families in office. They live together like families in a colony. Indian businessmen proudly deal with their business partners like families.

    How do you expect that sense of bond to vanish just like that?

    You have to create a system around the existing problem. In IT, you design a system around the known problem.

    I do not have problem with a family less political system. I have problem with cribbers. I am very impatient with foolish cribbers, both in personal and professional life.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Indians love their families. They work like families in office. They live together like families in a colony. Indian businessmen proudly deal with their business partners like families.”

    How then, PathakG ji, you threw out a “family member”, Vir Sanghvi, at the mere whiff of a scandal, when others like NDTV carried on merrily?

    Anonymous Reply:

    What has happened to him? Anything new recently?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    Ultimately people will throw out family control
    if they don’t perform as per the people’s
    expectations. It will take a long time maybe a
    decade or two but will happen eventually.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes. Very well said.

    If china could change, anything can happen.Nobody can resist the inevitable.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Though you have to be atleast a card carrying member of that party to stand as a candidate for that party,Having said that India should copy LOCK STOCK AND BARREL the american system of selecting candidates. Though it is not true that the “high command” of democrat or republican party will not intervene ansd cancel the local nomination if the candidate has links with Klu Klux Clan or Mafia

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr Shan-

    I agree – the Indian way of party committee deciding who will contest where etc perpetuates family/other connection and lineage; one reason why there are so many parties in India is precisely due to this – the one who is denied a seat forms a new party. The impetus to start new party is reduced to negligible percentage in a “let all contest and the winner be the nominee” system.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Agreed

    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    This is the main problem that anyone who is denied a ticket
    forms his own party. The situation has reached at such level
    that 5-6 seats won by these small parties dictate their ‘terms’
    for supporting/joining the main party to form a government.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It’s been long time. Now people should go for a single party majority for better governance. The policy freeze up because of uncertainty needs to stop. We need a ten year window of single party majority rule. This will help accelerate the development process. It can be either Congress or Bjp or any other party, but one must go for simple majority.

  • Ravi

    Four Hindu youths held for desecration of temple

    The incident triggered riots in Hyderabad earlier this month

    It was not ‘jihadis,’ but four Hindu youths, instigated by two local leaders, who planted the legs of a cow and sprinkled green paint in a temple at Madanappet, sparking communal clashes in the old city three weeks ago, the police have said.

    The youths have been arrested, and the police have launched a hunt for Niranjan, a wine merchant, and Srinivas, a moneylender, accused of masterminding the desecration.

    The arrested were Nagaraj, who works as a contract sanitation supervisor in the Greater Hyderabad Municipal Corporation; Kiran Kumar, a florist; Ramesh, a hotel worker; and Dayanand Singh, a car driver. All of them hail from Kurmaguda of Madannapet.

    The arrested persons did not have any criminal record, but were organising religious programmes in the area. Their aim was to create communal disturbances and turn the situation to their advantage by provoking and uniting the Hindus, the police said on Friday.

    Read on… http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article3364832.ece

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is classic repeat of formenting communal divide by the RSS.

    As the RSS does not have any membership register, it is going to be so easy to disown these four youths.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    These Hindu Taliban will go to any length to foment a riot, a noted and oft tried RSS tactic.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    even rape 5000 dalit women daily.

    Ravi Reply:

    Could not have agreed more.

    Most High Caste Hindu rapes do not get reported. Police are still reluctant to record reports of rapes of dalit girls committed by High Caste Hindus

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    @ Pathak G

    Looks llike your stories of obfusctaing Sonia G and Ottavio g and Rajiv g ’s role gets a pavlovian reaction fo running around trees.

    Arre baba gareeb desh mein chori hui hai. Chor paso na. Yeh Khandaan ki vafadaari se kya mohabbat hai? Koi profit ho rahah hai kya?

    Waiting for an answer which has no trees, no obfuscation, no excuses, no filmi stories.. :)

    [Reply]

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Going for tennis and beer now… but boy !! Am I going to enjoy myself and wait for an answer which has BJP, Vajpayee, everything including the kitchen sink… !!

    Bu5 nothing on catching the lootera of Bofors… Ottavio G and _ _ _ _ _ G

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Edwina M and Nehru J.

    [Reply]

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Edwina was a flagpole as per Shashi tharoor on which the Indian flag was planted…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay-

    Have a good game!
    Do you have any attractive “opposite sex” doubles partner?

    [Reply]

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    Thx benoy

    Always enjoy your postings. Just saw this after coming back home…

    Well as for my partner… my lips are sealed…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Break your own shackles of Pavlovian bondage before you even try to change others. You have a compulsive disorder of repeating and getting stuck. Please expand the bandwidth. You might be getting immense pleasure in repeating and moving in a circular motion, for many it’s a simple waste of time and energy.

    [Reply]

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    My bandwidth is freedom, democracy, free markets, choice, scientific rationality, secularism, justice for all, punishing criminals and the corrupt… :)

    I invite you to join my bandwidth, rather than try to find fault with it..

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    How often do you dance to your own shot on the court?

    ‘Ohh…Maine ball ko touch kar liya!!!!!!…………………….’……………’………..’………’………’……..’…………’………..’……….”
    ……………….’………………….’

    ( you may an extra reverb for the effect)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Now you are trying your hand at half-boiled neem hakeem kind of psychiatry on Vijay Kumar.

    Sanjay, during the time he was a guest here, never tried to impress people with his psychiatry mumbo jumbo.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Somebody got to tell him the bitter truth. If you want to help him as a real friend, then help him move out his syndrome of repeating and creating a make-belief world where he thinks that he can change the world by changing some unknown guy on the blog. He has fallen in love with his own cyber role. Help him. Do it in your own sweet way. He is an immensely likable guy, but in complete delusion.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I want to help you as a real friend and well wisher. You shouldn’t suffer the fate earlier suffered by Prabhat, Prahlad and Sanjay. Therefore, please take my advice, come to the blog with your real ID, however ugly it is.

    Don’t be like the fake Ravis, Ram Autars and Manglams of this blog.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Deal and be happy with my nice part. Don’t try my ugly part.
    For reacpturing how you suffer, just browse back.

    Anonymous Reply:

    you may think that by censoring my repostes to you, you are making me suffer.

    The fact that you are taking multiple IDs on your own blog, shows that you are scared of people seeing your ugly side.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    Before I leave for the tennis game.. and Impartant announcement.

    DEMOCRATS WILL WIN THIS 6-0 6-0 6-0 OVER THE NAUKERCY PROMOTERS ~~!!

    Cheeeeeeeeerssssssssss CIAO !!!!!!!!!!!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    aap ke munh mein ghee shakkar aur CD less khajoor.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    और आप के मुहं में इंट पत्थर for being the most divisive and communalist bloger here.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    You didn’t have to say that. Everyone knows.

    Anonymous Reply:

    aur aap ke sir par cement aur concrete, Osama style, which jihadis like you richly deserve.

    Ravi Reply:

    H I N D U Fundos like you deserve it reinforced with सरिया

  • Pankaj#1

    Thanks Manohar for the link on Manto.
    I have very high esteem for this writer.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    The BBC once honoured this writer by dramatising “Toba Tek Singh”. Zohra Sehgal was absolutely brilliant in it.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj and Ravi

    I had started wondering whether any of the bloggers were interested in Manto. Glad you liked it.

    Perhaps, other bloggers have ‘more’ important things to do in life – kite flying, writing nursery rhymes, etc. ;-)

    I will keep posting links on similar topics and personalities just for the two of you.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    Please do continue to post such links. I know many here aprreciate your efforts and I count myself among them.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sadat Hasan Manto was one of the earliest writers who worried about the “ugly American” in our continent.

    With India moving into the Soviet orbit in the 1950s, USIS approached Manto with a lucrative offer – They offered him money to write against Stalin in Urdu journals – he did accept some money, but wrote instead a “Letter to uncle Sam” , mocking America’s claims to moral superiority over the Soviet Union.

    His editors banned Manto from their pages. But Manto kept writing more letters to Uncle Sam, publishing nine “letters to uncle Sam” in local periodicals from 1951 to 54.

    He predicted that US will end up arming the generals and the Islamist mullahs In 1954, he had satirically exhorted Uncle Sam “once military aid starts flowing the first people you should arm are these Mullahs”..

    Manto saw through the cynical game of arming anybody and everybody, “as for your military pact with us, he “advised” uncle Sam- it is remarkable and should be maintained. You should sign something similar with India…and your armament factories will no longer remain idle”.. Lo and behold, US signed the nuclear plant treaty with India few years ago!

    Manto, prescient about the Ugly American, did not fully warn us about the Ugly Pakistanis, and as a consequence a few ugly Indians too.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopji,

    There was no need for Manto to warn us about ugly
    Pakistanis which was very obvious to us but sadly some people do not want to see the reality.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi

    Thanks for some invaluable facts about Manto.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    with this post, you have given these Mullah-loving liberals a kick in the ***.

    Ravi Reply:

    The way I read it, it seems to have been aimed at your PUNDO loving crotch.

  • Anonymous

    Senses is like a strapless bra. Some wonder what’s holding it, while others wait
    for it to fall down and grab the opportunity with both hands.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    In such situations, senses be damned.
    one should go by consensus.

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  • Anonymous

    A 65 year old man went for sperm count. Doctor gave him a bottle to collect sperm.
    Next day this man came back with the empty bottle and said ” Doctor, I tried
    with my right hand and then with my left, nothing happened. Then my wife also tried
    with her left and right hand but she also could not manage. My sister in law was
    around and I asked her to help, she not only tried using her both soft hands, she also
    tried with her mouth but still did not succeed. My wife then called our neighbour’s young daughter to help but she also failed even after using her hands and mouth.
    Believe me doctor, nobody could open this damn bottle.”

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Someday somebody might just shoot you for causing him heart attack out of sheer uncontrollable laughter. Don’t tell us we didn’t warn you.

    [Reply]

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    toooooooo gud ! Mohan…

    I am designing and constructing a IVFT centre for a doctor client… I will certainly forard this chutkala to the doc… and remind him that bottles have to be nice…

    [Reply]

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    I am collecting these jokes. Do not blame me, if I publish them in my name. ( I will not do this felony, for sure.)

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj,

    Few pegs of a good whiskey as a royalty would do.

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  • Anonymous

    India’s Broken Promises … an article in the current issue of Foreign Affairs magazine

    http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/137530/basharat-peer/indias-broken-promise?page=show

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Madras miscellany: A relationship in letters
    S. MUTHIAH

    http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/metroplus/article3367259.ece?homepage=true

    Excerpt

    Chitti, like all Tamil men of letters of his time, never thought much of Tamil women writers. That was until he read Krithika’s first novel, Puhai Naduvil, set in Delhi’s world of governance where her husband, S. Bhoothalingam, was a senior Civil Servant, much of the time on T.T. Krishnamachari’s team. This novel published in 1955 led to Chitti and Krithika beginning a dialogue that lasted till the middle of 1988. In it they exchanged views on everything under the sun, from art and culture to Tamil writing via psychology and philosophy. It was an intellectual companionship that lasted from their forties till their seventies making the reader wonder what happened to the relationship during the last 15 years of their lives. Or are there more letters still to be found?

    But even while the reader wonders about the 1990s and the 2000s, he/she also wonders what the relationship between the two was that kept their correspondence so vibrantly alive for three decades and more. And it was that relationship that Gopalkrishna Gandhi dwelled long and delightedly on when releasing the book. Dismissing raised eyebrows and Eros, Gandhi said they were just letters that provided the opportunity for the writers to express themselves. “Chitti and Krithika,” Gandhi felt, “reposed trust in one another’s sensibility, discretion and restraint in a relationship that did not suffer owing to lack of conventional typifications.” It was a relationship of two minds that shared thoughts, which did not necessarily find acceptance in the other.

    ———-

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  • Anonymous

    Call for new U.K. visa rule to keep out Modi

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/article3367500.ece?homepage=true

    Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi could be among those likely to be affected by new immigration rules under which non-European Union citizens accused of serious human rights abuses may be banned from entering Britain.

    Rights campaigners on Sunday said that they would demand that the proposed rules should be used to keep out Mr. Modi because of his role in the anti-Muslim riots in Gujarat.

    There were widespread protests when he was allowed to visit Britain in 2003, and a planned visit in 2005 was called off at the last minute after a determined bid by rights groups to get an arrest warrant against him.

    ————-

    Read on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When it comes to REAL POILITIC , those namby pamby considerations can wait.
    Already USA is preparing grounds to lift sanctions against Modi, Britain being an obidient poodle of USA will not stay far AND RIGHTLY SO.
    If MODI becomes PM of INDIA , REST OF WORLD will have no choice but to accept the ground reality, like Britain attending Emperor Hirohito ’s funeral despite not of noises from WW2 veterans of BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Manohar;
    Who cares for Britain and US as far as Visa to Modi is concerned. For Modi, he does not cravre to go to these destinations, it is Britishers and Americans, who will crave to visit him.The very tone you have used, says that you have already pronounced him guilty. You you are assuming rather more than what the reality is. Hum ko aise yuvak chahiye….famous lines from Sohan lal
    Dwivedi, read this poem.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj-

    You are right. Who cares for UK? And at the rate US is going, who will care for it after a few years?

    They will give him 10 visas if he buys defense equipment from them.

    They will not have a choice other than crawling to him, if he becomes the PM,as Dr Shan mentioned .

    Trade rules.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Correct Observation Binoy.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “The very tone you have used”.

    Surprise, surprise. I just reproduced an excerpt from the news item, how does it become my tone? I did not bother to comment on it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,
    I did not mean your tone. After that article was posted in
    Time magazine I read many articles and heard people
    talking about it on the TV. The regular Modi bashers. I was
    talking about those people as a general observation.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    The people who are gloating at this news were speaking in a different tone when
    Modi wad featured on front page of Times. At that time same people were saying
    who cares about a magazine published in US.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Which people?

    [Reply]

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Rights groups in UK? Filled with filthies, who will defend jehadists of every hue in UK. Shame on British government.

    [Reply]

    Ravi Reply:

    Pankaj, care to elaborate. Not sure I get the message you seem to want to get across.

    [Reply]

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    I will certainly do this Ravi. What they call Finsbury mosque? not sure. it became hot bed of jehadists and we have heard that hot head gathering there and proclaimed that, they will make Britain Muslim/ Islamic country. Such bravado? such hyperbole and they get away with it. No body lynched them right there, I feel, why not.

    Ravi Reply:

    Yes there was a time when the Finsbury Mosque and a few others too were taken over by Jihadi’s.

    That is no longer true. However, getting rid of the extremists by violating their human rights is not the best solution. Furthermore there are many people in Britain who would love to deport all these Islamists, but the laws on Human Rights are forged in Europe not in London. Europe suffers from Extremists in many countries not just in the UK.

    The last extremist violence in Norway was perpetrated by a Right Wing Extremist Anders Behring Breivik’s and not an Islamist.

    Where would one deport him?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, deport the terrible jehadis like Abu Hamza etc to wherever he came from.. the native ones such as Behring Brewik goes through the country’s terrorism/judicial process.

    UK is getting what they deserve by giving
    asylum to these Jehadists.

    Muslim extremists are a menace everywhere; they are predicting attacks here to coincide with Osama’s death anniversary. US will just decimate indiscriminately, as they did in Iraq, if this happens. And it will guarantee Obama victory!

    Ravi Reply:

    What about Hindu Extermists who only a couple of days ago tried to start a riot in Andhra Pradesh. Where would you like to deport them.

    Deportation of Islamists or for that matter anyone, has to be carried out within the framework of law. The British Government or for that matter any Government is not above the law.

    As far as Abu Qatada and Abu Hamza is concerned the law is taking its course, all be it slowly.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ravi;
    Khet ki baat karte karte aap khalihaan pahunch gaye. Baat britain ki chal rahi hai, aap seedhe Hindustan pahunch gaye?

    Ravi Reply:

    वोह इस लिए की अनाज अनाज है चाहे हिंदुस्तान में हो चाहे ब्रितानिया में हो.
    Talk about the underlying disease and not just the symptoms.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ravi;
    is there a difference between home grown extremist, who can not be deported anywhere and millions of muslims, who migrated to Europe, and even first generation is behaving in a very strange manner. defying national ethos, insisting on maintaining their barbarian traditions, openly flouting laws of land, its finer sensibilities and proclaiming to turn that country,adopted one on top of that, where they came as economical refugees, to their liking, just because of their sheer numbers and BLOODY HELL, HUMAN RIGHTS.

    Ravi Reply:

    Most of what you say is true of A L L immigrant groups not just Muslims.

    In the UK many white racists do not distinguish between Muslims and Hindus.

    Most violent crime these days in the UK is committed by West Indian and African Blacks. A case certainly can be made to deport them back to where they came from.

    Not so long ago, UK white people moaned about the change of their High Street where Fish & Chips shops were being replaced by Indian Take aways. These whites also contended that Curry was smelly and ethnic and not native to the UK.

    Each of the above and many other aspects of immigrant cultures have cahnged UK’s National Ethos.

    As you can see these are complex issues and affect all immigrant communities not just Muslims.

    Muslims, just happen to be the latest group who have found themselves in the frame.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi, as usual, you are defending Jehadis, trying to bulk all together. jehadis are the ones destroying UK, constantly planning terrorist attacks, and occasionally succeeding.. Pakistanis should all be deported back.

    Talk about Jehadis and what they do; do not generalize it saying all immigrant groups go through this.. Muslims are the only ones (not all Muslims, but a good number of them) who are engaged in a worldwide terrorist jehadi path.

    All the terrorists arrested here were Muslims; most of them from Pakistan, and a few natives who converted to Islam.

    Ravi Reply:

    Binoy

    As usual you have not read what I wrote and understood even less.

    Please quote which bit of my post in response to you is in support of TERRORISM. I thought I was supporting L A W.

    But since you are a self-confessed H I N D U Fundo you have scant regard for the rule of LAW.

    You could not be more wrong about PAKISTANI’s in the UK. 99% of them are god fearing, law abiding and those in work are just as hard working as any other citizen. Those that have adopted extremist form of Islam are being dealt with by not only our LAW but also by the community itself.

    It is true that ALL recent Jihadi’s are Muslim, but if they are residents/citizens of Britain then all their crimes must be dealt with in accordance to British and European LAW.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji,

    this fake Ravi says human rights are forged in Europe.

    These jihadis, including this asli jihadi, have taken the one of the literal meanings of the word ‘forge’ and are using the forgery to their genuine advantage.

    But, as long as Britain doesn’t wake up to the menace of these fake Ravis in their thousands working to undermine British democracy and Britain itself, they will merrily proliferate.

    Remember Zakir Naik’s exhortation: Every Muslim should become a terrorist”?

    Anonymous Reply:

    one jihadi demanding human rights for fewllow jihadis!

    Wah, Fake Ravi, you are a jewel among all the jihadis.

    Ravi Reply:

    Human rights are for ALL human beings. No special cases are made based upon ones religion or stupidity.

    Anders Behring Breivik’s Human Rights will be just energetically preserved as those of Abu Qatada. They belong to the opposite sides of the same political argument.

    You are the Koh-E-Noor of Right Wing Fascists here.

    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ravi;
    Please elaborate on ” I get the message that I want to get across”. I did not understand this across thing. I love humanity, talent, fine arts and all that. Irrespective of caste, creed religion and all that. For me, every human is part of humanity. I am against extremism of any kind and farmost extremists are those bl…jehadists.

    Ravi Reply:

    Pankaj

    I share every single sentiment you express. I am also against any form of extremism. So no issues there.

    Your post Rights groups in UK? Filled with filthies, who will defend jehadists of every hue in UK. Shame on British government. was not CLEAR. So I asked please can you re-iterate and elaborate what is it that you are trying to say. What is it that the British Government should be ashamed off.

    Anonymous Reply:

    when something is said against the jihadis, nothing gets to your head, nothing is clear to you.

    Ravi Reply:

    Firstly, I always make an attempt to analyise the underlying phenomenon rather than react to individual incidents. I leave that to morons like you.

    Secondly, you also chose to ignore the riots perpetrated by the organisation of which you are a senior चपड़ासी

    Recent throwing of COW limbs and dubbing them with GREEN Paint in Andhra by Hindu Extremists, being just the latest in a series spaning 4 decades.

    Anonymous Reply:

    you are only observing Zakir Naik’s order “I want every Muslim to be a terrorist”.

    Ravi Reply:

    Just like you are observing Mohan Bahgwats dictats about I want everyone to be a HINDU

    Ravi Reply:

    Manohar

    My reading is that this change in Visa rule is generic and in no way specifically aimed at Modi. That localised interpretation is made by The Hindu Newspaper.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi

    Modi’s cheerleaders have a blind spot and are in denial about any remotest negativity of the Great Hindutva Hope. So be it. It is their problem.

    1) They (the cheerleaders) expect the rest of the world to treat him with kid gloves. Anyone who takes him on are labeled as the scums of the earth. The fact is that these ’scums’ are winning, they have managed to pin him down for the last 10 years. You should see BJP’s spokespersons cribbing about the activists targeting Modi on TV panel discussions, without realising that they are paying the latter compliments. It is pathetic and laughable at the same time.

    2) One says who cares what the UK does. Well, he may not care, but the Indian establishment (that includes the central leadership of the BJP and the RSS) know and cares.

    Forget international acceptability, the reality is that there is a big domestic deficit. How many allies does the BJP have today, even without Modi anywhere near the centre of power? What will happen if ……

    They keep discussing some ‘grand’ coalition with Modi at the helm with likes of Jaya and others playing second fiddle. All I can say is that they do not know their women politicians and many of the regional satraps (*). The votes which the Congress is losing and will lose are going to the regional parties and not to the BJP. So how does the BJP get to that magic number of 273, with or without the allies?

    * They will go with a leader who can get them the votes. Nitish Kumar, Naveen Patnaik, Jayalalitha, Mamta Bannerjee, Mulayam Singh, Prakash Singh Badal and Manohar Parrikar have shown that they can do very well without him. On the contrary, ………..

    We discussed Modi two days back in a different thread, none of his fans came forward to have an impassioned debate as to what I had to say. Neither, I am expectingto happen here.

    You surely must have noticed that you were labeled as a supporter of jehadis, when you tried to generalise the debate. See what a blind spot does to people.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Last time Vajpayee had to explode a nuclear bomb in a hurry to contain Jaya ( reason for low yield for hurried preparation ). What will Modi do this time to contain Jaya ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    ” Last time Vajpayee had to explode a nuclear bomb in a hurry to contain Jaya ” Are you sure? you are
    talking about Nuclear explosion not some Diwali cracker .
    Then was recent testing of Agni to contain Mamta ? I am really surprised as I have never seen you posting your
    comments in such a frivolous way.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, just like frivolous people sometimes post serious matters, supposedly serious people like Sanjay do sometimes write very frivolous and quite silly comments.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    Let me assume you pride yourself Bing fair, despite some inclination towards BJP. I also respect your comment that you o not expect me to comment something in frivolous way. So you need to find some clues to my statement. How do you do that?

    For person ike you who do not have much detailed interest in political intrigues, let’s start backward.

    We have a long tradition of nuclear technologies. We had tested before. We also have mastered the lab modules for these kind of technological validation. The World knew our capabilities. We were comfortable in banning the tests, not because we did not need it, but because we could safely do without them and pursue our nuclear ambitions. Pakistan needed to tell the World that they were also capable but were not getting opportunities.

    NDA / BJP always wanted prove they were not less than Indira’s Congress. So we always expected NDA to go for it. It was matter of time.

    Suddenly, Jaya, like the present day Mamta, started throwing tantrum. Every day became a torture for BJP/NDA. Suddenly the NDA Govt was on the verge of collapse. It was not matter of weeks or days, it was becoming matter of hours as Jaya had escalated the stakes.

    One fine evening, Vajapee just started mumbling before the camera. His eyes were belying his expressions. He was trying to avoid the cameras. But his eyes spoke a lot ( anticipation of a big event ), exactly like Advani’s eyes and expressions 20/30 minutes before

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    ” NDA / BJP always wanted prove they were not less than Indira’s Congress. So we always expected NDA to go for it. It was matter of time.”

    I agree with your above statement,
    rest all is just an assumption. I respect your views but sorry to say that I do not agree with those.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sorry. Lost a big chunk of the post because of sudden reboot. I hate recreating my writing but shall try to give some more stuff.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That was some revelation.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    You wondered if NDA preponed the nuclear explosion to contain Jaya.

    Let me assume you pride yourself being fair, despite some inclination towards BJP. I also respect your comment that you do not expect me to comment something in a frivolous way. So you need to find some clues to my statement. How do you do that?

    For a person like you who does not have much detailed interest in political intrigues, let’s start backward.

    We have a long tradition of nuclear technologies. We had tested before. We also have mastered the lab modules for these kind of technological validation. The World knew our capabilities. We were comfortable in banning these tests, not because we did not need it, but because we could safely do without them and pursue our nuclear ambitions. Pakistan needed to tell the World that they were also capable but were not getting opportunities.

    NDA / BJP always wanted prove they were not less than Indira’s Congress. So we always expected NDA to go for it. It was just a matter of timing.

    Suddenly, Jaya, like the present day Mamta, started throwing tantrum. Every day became a torture for BJP/NDA. Suddenly the NDA Govt was on the verge of collapse. It was not matter of weeks or days, it was becoming matter of hours as Jaya had escalated the threats.

    One fine evening, Vajpayee just started mumbling before the camera. His eyes were belying his expressions. He was trying to avoid the cameras. But his eyes spoke a lot ( anticipation of a big event ), exactly like Advani’s eyes and expressions 20/30 minutes before the the event when those 3 MP’s started waiving the notes in parliament just before the voting.

    Next morning the big news broke.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Contd…

    Suddenly Jaya went silent.

    She completely withdrew to a corner like a wet *****. She stopped threatening the Govt. all of a sudden. Because she knew if she withdrew then BJP would come back with a huge margin, perhaps with a simple majority. She kept quiet and maintained a distance from BJP/NDA for a long time.

    How do you validate this. Perhaps best option would be to talk to somebody very close to Mahajan, because this was supposed to be Mahajan’s master stroke. Not the nuclear explosion, but the preponement of the explosion to contain Jaya. Ask Jaya about Mahajan anytime.

    The fall outs were many. Pakistan, in a week’s time, became a declared Nuclear state. India lost her supremacy based on the conventional weapons. Pakistan started threatening openly by moving nuclear assets openly at the slightest provocation.

    The other fallout was the massive cover up by the scientific community regarding the “low yield” of the explosion due to inadequate preparation. With every passing day, it was becoming as obvious as Raja’s complicity in 2G scam. If you remember, many months later, some scientists challenged and released few documents in support of these news about low yielding due to inadequate preparation..

    How do you move from here to validate my assertions ?

    1) Start with Shenoy’s feeble response. You know his sense of history is good. You also know how strongly he reacts to my regular postings. See how feeble his response to my assertions here. He knows, suspects but avoids stating the truth.

    2) Start with video recordings from the Parliament Library.You will know about my descriptions of both Vajpayee and Advani events.

    3) Bring in all newspaper clippings of 3 weeks before the nuclear explosion and 3 weeks after. Pour over the detailed Jaya’s antics before the event and her uncharacteristic silence hours after the event, prolonging into months after the event.

    4) Talk to some serious political and strategic analysts.

    5) Find somebody real close to Mahajan

    If you are really serious about unravelling the political mysteries, you have to make serious efforts, more than just passing a comment – these are only assumptions.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The congress has already exploded, unintentionally of course, a medium sized but high yielding thermo-nuclear bomb called MANUZINGVI-12. The ripples and tremors are still being felt in the supreme court compound where it had exploded about a fortnight ago.

    Ravi Reply:

    This bomb was so powerful that it seems to have totally engulfed you but not much else

    Anonymous Reply:

    There are too many big ifs before we can even think that such a situation will arise.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Maybe out of respect for you on this blog nobody commented
    on Modi when you started the thread as you have said few
    times before that enough of Modi, let us discuss something else.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am under no illusion and expect every post of mine be responded to.

    The earlier thread was about a new topic – gazing into the crystal ball – if and when Modi is shifted to Delhi.

    This thread on account of link to a news item is about some activists upping the ante.

    If you all do not wish to discuss Modi, no problem.

    Ravi Reply:

    Future is alliance and Modi can not or will not make alliances.

    Simply because Hinduatva can not be built with alliances, it require a strong dictatorial central government run on fascist principles.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    If he is willing to leave Gujarat to come on national stage then he will have no choice but to make/join
    an alliance. It is still not yet clear whether he wants to
    leave Gujarat, he is keeping those cards very close to
    his heart.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    @ PathakG

    I could sense a latent anger and irritation in your post on family naukercy and service.

    Beleive me in my eyes it is not about you and me. It is about making our country evolve from the present sycophantic state. You have stated that you are perfectly happy serving families… I am surprised considering that you are an intelligent person. Cannot you see the immense harm family rule does to democracy by capturing the levers of power and then placing pyaadas and sycophants in these positions so that only a progenty of the family can capture power?

    You may be a Congressi… and you have full right to be one. But that clouds your judgement on the rot this national jewel called the Indian National Congress has become. But let me turn the focus on other families and maybe you can be dispassionate.

    What about bal Thakrey and sons, another family enterprise. By your logic you celeberate their wealth, the distortions in the democracy they represent, the family loyalty they want.

    What about karunanidhi pvt ltd? By your own statement you love thier family saga, love the way they collect money to get power, love their family intrigue (like a fan of soap operas) love the idea that they will remain inpower for the next 100 yrs.

    The family of Lalu enterprises Rabri incorporated makes you happy. You would want that they control Bihar and push it back to 1712 all because only a backward mindset would vote for family and corruption?

    Mark my words Pathak you are doing great injustice to yourself. By the very nature of democracy, we have to make sure nobody gets a naukercy and familyccracy to capture the state and its resources.

    Vijay Kumar maybe a loudmouth… a troll… a bug. hate him. Make fun of him.

    But never hate your country. Never destroy the systems which can make this land great. Never wish that we join cuba and north korea…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Save your words. If you ever want to communicate with me, say / discuss anything, but once. I will try to respond with best of my abilities. If you love dealing with dumb ones and fancy repeating same stuff 10 times a day, go find somebody else.

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I am sorry if you have taken this in the wrong spirit. We have had some great debates and I am sure we will have many more as this blog evolves.

    I did not intend and I hope have I have not, said anything personal.

    To me it was only about issues. Period.

    I guess it has more to do with my style fo persisiting to get some facts out. My partners tell me that I am a bit mad and get obsessed with the truth, even to the extent of ruffling feathers when our business is about getting more contracts and work.

    The docs I work with give me a mandate to look beyond the obvious. 400 million people in the world suffer from sugar and diabetes. Now tell us somthing more than what our books and text do. So vijay kumar like a loyal dog of science starts looking at habits, gravity, food, chewing, digestive juices, breathing, anger… everything.

    I guess i am a bit mad !

    let the debates continue…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It’s OK.
    My standard operating phrase is – what’s new / what else.
    I deal with my friends, children in the same manner. I try yo learn new things from people.
    You are a great guy. I am sure you will change with time. But honestly it’s difficult for me write same stuff again and again. There is no creative challenge in it. I guess you will continue doing what you have always been doing. I may just have to ignore your repeat postings. But rest assured if there is anything interesting from your side I will definitely respond.

    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    I dont know about change… I think I have lead 30% of my life and remained constant..

    But I guess the world is big enough to have opposing viewpoints.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you have not changed and you think you can not change, then how do you think others can change?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Very simple – application of double standards.

    Ravi Reply:

    Vijay is according himslef divine status.

    Ravi Reply:

    Vijay

    When are you planning to give up नौकरी of the RSS.

    They have brain washed you good and proper

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    Vijay Kumar Reply:

    @ Ravi

    I was about to sleep. But I will now smile and sleep… !

    The nauker inside you wants to label me a nauker just to avoid seeing the truth :)

    I have never batted for the RSS. But having pointed out your tendency to naukercy, made you look for an answer… and the first stage is refusal to see the truth. Children do it by saying… main nahi toh hai woh.

    So you are in the first stage of change… :)

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    Ravi Reply:

    Vijay

    On several counts you are in denial, let me list a few.

    1. To you every one, who does not agree with your perspective, is a नौकर. Nothing could be furthest from the truth.

    2. You believe you know the TRUTH. That is the kind of arrogance and delusion only an old Columbian can muster. You live in a fool’s paradise.

    3. Every sinew in your body is steeped in RSS propaganda and you don’t even know it

    4. मैं नहीं तूं है, is exactly what you do.

    Now you sleep laughing and cry in your sleep when self realisation hits you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vijay-Kumar/100001459633319 Vijay Kumar

    ——————————————————————————————————————
    ~~~ My last post ~~ AND A HUMBLING THOUGHT ~~~~
    ——————————————————————————————————————

    We call each other donkeys and feel great… Spare a thought for the donkeys who may be pretty intelligent and hardworking.

    That is what I learnt yesterday…

    We were digging up a pretty deep basement for a client and after a point given the inticaceis of construciton earthmoving equopment like JCB’s could not be used. Iqbal my right hand at site suggested we use donkeys to get the mud out of a thirty feet deep construction site.

    I had my reservations. Cruelty to animals and all that. but before I could debate this out… he ordered that a Jharkhandi contractor with 30 donkeys lands at site.

    And lo behold! It was a fascinating site. 30 Donkeys doing what 100 men would have done. Going deep inside a pit, getting loaded with mud and then climbing up and delivering the mud to the exact point it needed to be unloaded. My respect for donkeys has grown..

    They seemed happy to be working. They would chew away any grass bits on the way, occassionally nuzzle at the bottom of a female donkey… but seemed to be enjoying themselves.

    The contractor who loved his donkeys was being paid 150 bucks a donkey per day.

    I now realise that a donkey is a hard working, innocent animal. So why the hell is it made fun of ??????????

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    Ravi Reply:

    Vijay

    A good lesson learned.

    I hope that you give similar consideration towards your fellow humanbeings, who are not as fortunate as you and I.

    I am sure you know what I mean.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    the unfortunate situation of yours is self-inflicted. Doing gaddari with the motherland was your own decision. You deserve no sympathy.

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    Ravi Reply:

    आप जैसे इंडिया के गद्दारों से कौन मांग रहा है

  • Anonymous

    A ‘ true ‘ friend.

    1st friend ‘ can I use your phone to call my girlfriend’
    2nd friend ‘ sure, just redial’

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Luckily for the 2nd friend, he didn’t ask, “May I use your girl friend to call for my phone?”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    ha ha, This is better then my joke.

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  • Anonymous

    Shan,

    You will find this interesting.

    Injury turns dropout into maths genius!

    http://gulfnews.com/news/world/usa/injury-turns-dropout-into-maths-genius-1.1015593

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Thanks. I was about to post a link from TOI covering the above.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Maybe you did not drink last night, that is why you were not able to get up early.

    You asked me yesterday about my drinking habit. The fact is I have reduced
    my drinking a lot. Earlier I used to drink 30 times in a month, then I reduced
    that to seven times a week and now I drink only once a day.
    Notice the drastic reduction in my drinking habit from thirty times to once.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, I noticed. Kudos.

    Keep up the good work and the bottle, you have nothing to lose but your ’spirits’. ;-)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Your “drastic” reduction in the drinking has drastically increased your will power and power of keeping count of the time between two drinks.

    More power to your wrist watch.

  • Anonymous

    India to pump in Rs 2 lakh cr in 12th Plan to save climate

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/environment/global-warming/India-to-pump-in-Rs-2-lakh-cr-in-12th-Plan-to-save-climate/articleshow/12929919.cms

    he fight against climate change will take a strategic jump in the 12th Five-Year Plan (2012-2017) with the government intending to plough in almost Rs 2 lakh crore through the various missions, the working group on climate of the 12th Five-Year Plan has said.

    ————-

    Read on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Its a joke on us.

    Is this what the country needs the most – 2 Lakh Crores to save the climate!!

    Spending on solar energy (even if it is a bit expensive) is understandable, but everything else stated in the article is a sure way to make money for people involved in these projects.

    I wonder, why we don’t hear about Global Warming anymore? Is it over or there was none ever?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    I am not an expert on this but there are people who claim that the idea of Global warming is a hoax.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am no expert either, but I have read enough about it to say that this was a big scam for carbon trading. A lot of people made plenty of money. Thankfully, no one is buying the theory anymore and they have conveniently changed “Global Warming” to more acceptable “Climate Change”.

    For God’s sake, what’s the big deal about climate change? The climate does change as it has over thousands of years. We can’t control it. There are far too many factors beyond human control which determines this. Information Technology (TV and internet in particular) brings us the news of floods, droughts, earthquakes etc. occuring all over the world to us now in a dramatic way and the issue seems bigger. Did none of these happened in the past – they did – it’s just that people didn’t know what was happening in other part of the world.

    I beleive in a theory which says: Species that walk the surface of this earth adapt themselves to its environment or become extinct, none have the ability to change it.

  • Anonymous

    Vijay Kumar,

    you made us think about the self-less hard work donkeys everywhere do.

    Now here is a story about monkeys that says DO NOT TRIFLE WITH MONKEYS:

    Once upon a time in a village, a an outsider came and announced to the villagers that he would buy monkeys for Rs 10. The villagers, seeing that there were many monkeys around, went out to the forest and started catching them.. The man bought thousands at Rs 10 and as supply started to diminish, the villagers stopped their effort.

    He further announced that he would now buy at Rs20. This renewed the efforts of the villagers and they started catching monkeys again. Soon the supply diminished even further and people started going back to their farms.

    The offer rate increased to Rs 25 and the supply of monkeys became so little that it was an effort to even see a monkey, let alone catch it! The man now announced that he would buy monkeys at Rs 50!

    However, since he had to go to the city on some business, his assistant would now buy on behalf of him. In the absence of the man, the assistant told the villagers. Look at all these monkeys in the big cage that the man has collected. I will sell them to you at Rs 35 and when the man returns from the city, you can sell it to him for Rs 50. ”

    The villagers squeezed up with all their savings and bought all the monkeys. Then they never saw the man nor his assistant, only monkeys everywhere!!!!

    Welcome to the ‘Stock Market’!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Very interesting. Simple yet powerful. Good for classroom sessions.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    A nice humorous way of telling us the style of most of the people who invest
    in stock market without thinking. Really good one.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Thx Shenoy

    I’ll definately use this example when occassion arises.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Excellent !!

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Wow.

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  • Anonymous

    UKgovt, terrorists , THE REAL STORY
    First we need to agree on one thing. THE SHREWDEST NATION ON EARTH , THE SHREWDEST PEOPLE THE ENGLISH
    @pANKAJ#1 , Binoy, UK does mollycuddle ISLAM, BUT THERE IS A SHREWD REASON BEHIND IT
    Al Yamaha Arms Contract fetched 20 BILLION POUNDS (yes pounds not dollars) in 1986.BRUNEI is a CLIENT STATE OF UK.In fact it was carved out of Malaysia by the COLONIAL POWER that is the british, ONLY BECAUSE IT HAD OIL AND A PUPPET SULTAN INSTALLED. Britain has army bases in Brunei.
    This Finsbury Park mosque business , ONLY HAPPENED BECAUSE LABOUR PARTY WAS IN POWER.
    Labour Party’s vote bank politics is same like CONgress Muslim appeasing politics we saw in UP elections.
    The Conservative(Tory) RIGHTWINGERS would throw every rule book into Thames.
    At the sametime BRITAIN HAS GOT A VERY LONG AND CHERISHED HISTORY OF SUPREMACY OF LAW AND CIVIL RIGHTS AS ENSHRINED IN MAGNA CARTA
    So if SMART LAWYERS can get their way with serpentine legal argument , state is helpless.
    But as i had mentioned before MI5(cia of uk) is following 1500 plots and touch would there not has been a single incident of islamic terror.
    Britain has put 100 times MORE THE NUMBER OF TERRORIST BEHIND BAR(after proper legal process) THAN INDIA HAS BEEN ABLE TO DESPITE THE DRACONIAN TADA and indefinite detention without trial.
    Ravi is true that white racists(thugs as well as society ast large) dont make distinction between indian hindu and bearded muslims, to them they are all pakis.
    But there is no denying Muslim population due to their religious fanaticsm and the general thrust of the religious dogma IS ALLWAYS IN A STATE OF CONFLICT.
    Whereas Indian hindus ARE MEEK AND DO GET ON WITH THEIR LIVES.
    This islamic mollycuddling has served britain well.
    I mean in Uk I know a bangladeshi hindu family totally dependent on state support , a widow lives in a two storey house , has a car , three children go to university has BASMATI rice for dinner
    In USA 30% dont have health insurance
    The best way to judge is to reflect on this fact
    We see italian spanish even GERMAN doctors come to UK for jobs AND SETTLE PERMAMENTLY, speaks volumes about the general “feel good factor ” in UK
    UK MANUFACTURING MAY HAVE DECLINED BUT ARMS MANUFACTURING IS ALIVE AND KICKING HARD

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shan,

    ” THE SHREWDEST NATION ON EARTH , THE SHREWDEST PEOPLE THE ENGLISH ” Very interesting and probably correct.

    ” Whereas Indian hindus ARE MEEK AND DO GET ON WITH THEIR LIVES.”
    Only Shan could have said this. Bhai mere, most of the Hindus believe in live and let live, though you may call them meek for this trait of Hindus.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shaan Nirad Babu,

    I love you for this post.

    you have clearly shown that Italians like the earlier East India Company, will go wherever there are contracts and money as shown by Sonia Gandhi and Quattrocchi.

    Muslims in UK, as you have clarified, love to keep the pot of Islamic fundamentalism and terror always boiling. It is only that unlike the pussyfooting congress government in India, the Britishers are marking their preys well and put them out of circulation well and truly.

    I like your statement that the UK police don’t distinguish between Hindus and Muslims and all are Pakis. It means that the fake Ravis and engriches can only fake their I-am-a-Hindu, I-am-a-mona-Sikh kind of non-sense only for the benefit of Vinod Sharma and his fellow pseudos here this blog.

    Please keep a watch on this fake mona Sardar and let us know when he is ferreted out of his gutter residence.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Just as people like you and the RSS keep the Hindu/Muslim fasad pot boiling.

    Shan did not say British Police can not tell the difference between a Pakistani Muslim and a Hindu Indian, he said the British Racist.

    You changed that because you know that your own organisation the RSS has the same Ultra Nationalist Agenda as the British Racist party BNP. The tactics used by both are Fascist.

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    Pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shan;
    If you mean, I do not know Britain, then, certainly you are under wrong impression. As You know, I had been trained in UK as well and still, I have a strong connection with UK. This connection goes back to some 75- 100 years back, whence my elders had their training as well there.I remember, many instances, where I could sense this mollycoddling thing clearly. But do not you feel, enough is enough. There are somethings which can not be sacrificesd at the altar of profit, cheap oil etc. Would elaborate if desired from your side.

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  • Anonymous

    Ravi,

    I am writing my comments here as the box became very small. This is in referenece
    to your reply to Binoy. I have very strong objection to one of your point you made that
    99% of Pakistanis in Britain are god fearing. You are completely wrong here,
    they are not God fearing but they all are Allah fearing.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan and what in your view is the difference between God and Allah.

    I look forward to your explanation or better still a joke that points out to the difference.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    A slogan which I have heard regularly practiced by Pakistanis.
    ” There is no God only Allah”

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    Ravi Reply:

    The I suggest you book an appointment with a clever Doctor and get your hearing checked out.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    This was not a joke and I have a heard this many times. And you know what surprises me more is that
    I have not not heard Arabs or Indian Muslims saying this. Only Pakistanis utter these words.

    Ravi Reply:

    Mohan

    Are you talking THEOLOGY or POLITICS

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I am not talking about theology, politics, spirituality or any such thing.
    I am just stating the fact which I have come across.

    Ravi Reply:

    Widen your circles

  • Anonymous

    Writing this from site.

    Just read on the NDTV site that Nupur Talwar has been arrested in the Aarushi murder case under order form the Supreme Court.

    I used to cross their house often on way to work and would wonder whether the occurance of two murders was possible with them sleeping all through the night. The second part were their actions. Not so much grief on the death of their child…but their protests that we are innocent.

    Yet part of me could never get to accept that two decent doctors from the cream of India’s educated could actually kill their daughter and a male servant. I guess most of India did not want to believe this. However despite the gaffes by the UP police, I think that the case is now getting closer to the truth.

    Then it raises reverse quesitons.

    a) Are we ready to accept young girls could actually be having sex and enjoying themselves with “servants” even if we sort of turn a blind eye or actually keep quiet if a boy were to do it. Of course the servant, Hemraj is to blame for misleading a young girl onto a wrong path.

    b) Was it then all about class and gender? WOuld their reactions and that of India been same had the male been NOT Hemraj, but a rich or middle class guy

    c) Was it not wrong of the parents to try to implicate three servants for the murder and try to get away themselves?

    d) It should take of our illusions about women. They can kill in case they are enraged enough. In fact what the parents did in rage could have been so simly settled with a cool mind.

    —> Dismiss the servant and deduct wages
    —> Get him legal punishment for misleading and sexually abusing a young girl
    —> COunselling their daughter to understand the facts of life and responsibilites better.

    Yes we know they would be suffering more than anyone else in the world… but how the hell can you plan to implicate some innocent into jail for your own acts?

    Very very disturbing quesitons….
    still rock my head

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    Ravi Reply:

    One more disturbing question needs to be added to your list.

    One has to now question his judgement.

    Dr Mishra came on this very blog and said that he is friends with Mr Talwar and personally vouch for his innocence.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dont know about Dr Mishra. But I did see Dr Nupur Talwar in a noida market once. A far cry from the lurid character portrayel the media had done of them. She seemd a quiet, homely sort of dependable lady.

    Simply put… an incoherent rage, a sweeping madness can be the recipe for an unbelievable hell.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, who kwows..
    Assuming they killed her; they would not have killed her had the boy was rich or middle class.. nauker falling in love /having sex with the daughter was something they just couldnt take.

    They will get away with murder – literally. Just like that DIG who bouht a 9 lakh license plate.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Gopi

    Part of me still does not want to believe that it was them.

    In case it was them… then I think they have to answer for their act of trying to implicate three innocent “naukers.” Just shows what maaliks think of their servants.

    I had occasion to dine with their main lawyer ata New year party. I was tempted to ask the vital question which all of India wanted. But of course he would have never told me so.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Vijay

    Is your interest in this case entirely based upon the fact that a “nauker” is involved?

    Anonymous Reply:

    My interest in the case is the same as that of all of India. Only a little more because I firmly beleive that and innocent should never be falsely implicated, whatever his financial state.

    In India the police has been known to haul the poor even when they are innocent. In this case two educated persons who should have known liberal values and human rights better would have been grossly unfair and wrong.

    Ravi Reply:

    Vijay

    Not sure what you mean when you say “would have been grossly unfair and wrong” are you suggesting that they are being unfairly treated or am I reading it wrong.

    BTW Poor are mistrteated by the authorities in many mnay countries not just India.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Rajesh and Nupur Talwar are still taking a plea that their servant/clinic compounder did the act.

    Three servants were jailed for three months and all sort of narco tests done on them.

    They would have gone to jail for life.

    So if today the parents are found guilty… then did they not revolt at the idea of punishment to the innocent?

    Ravi Reply:

    They should. But will they?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay,

    We still don’t know whether they killed their daughter. It is very very
    difficult to digest that parents will kill their own child, but yes we have heard
    of such incidents before. Aarushi was at a very critical age of her life. I believe
    that parents should be more involved with their child at this age. We do not
    know what had happened and what was the relation between parent
    and child, all we hear is just an assumption. About those three points
    you have raised, I agree with your first point that servant should be dismissed
    but not with the second point because your child is also involved.
    For third a definite yes for counseling.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mohan

    I guess the second point was difficult for me to write also. If I were to put myself in the same situation, would I want a scandal from my family amplified inot the police station? Probably not.

    However there needed to be some sort of punishment to the 45 yr old man, sexually abusing a 12 yr old girl. How ? I dont think I have the right answer to this.

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  • Anonymous

    Ravi,

    Widen my circle ? I am staying in Dubai since last 37 years. Dubai prides itself
    for being called melting pot. During my 27 years of banking job I worked along with
    Indians, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans, Dutch, Britishers and Americans. Now in my
    line of business my suppliers are Malaysians, Chinese, Viatnamese, Koreans and
    Taiwanese. My customers are mostly from African continent. They come from Nigeria,
    Ethopia,Ghana, Uganda, Angola, Libya, Algeria, Chad, Congo, Mali, Zambia, Rwanda
    and few more small African countries. The people from these countries I meet are about 70% Muslims and 30% Christains. I get a chance to regularly interact with them. I am not trying to boast but what I am trying to
    say is that I have met people from many countries of different religions and castes
    and understand them little bit. I only mentioned Pakistanis when I said that they
    use these words on very regular basis and I have not seen people of other
    nationalities saying this.

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    Ravi Reply:

    And your point is what.

    God and Allah for Abrahamic religions is exactly the same divine entity.

    If some (or even a lot) of brain dead Pakistanis say the opposite then it does not become so.

    Let them say what they want to say. Those that use Terrorism as a weapon will always find some justification to carry out their dastardly deeds. Religion just happens to be a very convinient excuse to do so.

    Pakistan will be anti India no matter what.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    Come on , you wont leave your habit of provoking me. Did I say
    what I believe or not believe. I was just talking about the Pakistanis
    and I am surprised that living in London you have not come across
    these type of Pakistani people.
    As far as I am concerned there is only one god, you can name it
    God, Allah, Bhagawan , Khuda, Ishwar. Your choice.
    A Muslim praying to Allah, A Christain praying to God and a Hindu,
    in this case me praying to Bhagwan, according to me we all are
    praying to one Super power with different names.

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    Ravi Reply:

    I was not trying to provoke you and I ceratinly do not make a habit of doing so.

    Yes I have met many muslims, from Pakistan and around the world, just as you have.

    I have also heard them say something similar, but what I heard is the following.

    “There is no OTHER GOD, other than Allah”. This I know to be the basic teaching of Islam.

    As a “mona Sikh” I believe in Eik Onkar, and therefore like you do not care what any one calls IT.

    So much so that in Sikhism, we call it NAAM (as in name).

    Hence the phrase Sat Naam.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I am also quite close to Sikhisim and I can recite
    Ek Onkar, Satnam. My mother used to read some
    parts of Guru Granth Sahib daily early in the morning.

    I think enough for today on this topic, if I keep on
    talking about God and Satnam then in the evening
    I may hesitate to take my drink.

    Ravi Reply:

    Most Sindhis can.

    I was taken by Bharat Jashanmal to his house some 20 years ago, so that I could visit in his house “Baba Ji’s” room that his mother kept.

    Bharat owns lots of Department stores in the Middle East, and he is a Sindhi

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I know about Jashanmals, but don’t know them personally. One of the brothers
    Mohan Jashanmal has converted to Islam, his name is Mohammad Jashanmal now.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Was it because of the “influence” this fake mona Sikh exercised on the boy?

    Ravi Reply:

    I only met Bharat.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi,

    I said ” There is no God only Allah ”
    You said ” There is no Other God other than Allah”.

    Is there any differnece ?
    Well leave it, I think we both understood what we wanted to say.

    Ravi Reply:

    Yes there is a difference.

    Anonymous Reply:

    May be you think so, according to
    me it is just semantics.

    Ravi Reply:

    In such cases semantics are very important.

    नुक्ते की हेर फेर ने खुदा से जुदा कर दिया

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    as it often happens, fake Ravi always begins by making his million-time-repeated fake claim of being a mona Sikh, but ends up showing himself to be what he always has been-an Islamic fundoo, claiming “there is no god other than Allah”.

    Ravi Reply:

    I claimed that.

    You really are a Hindu Fundo who can not read.

  • Anonymous

    Call the Maoist bluff, take them out
    Srivatsa Krishna

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/sunday-toi/special-report/Call-the-Maoist-bluff-take-them-out/articleshow/12917908.cms

    Dashrath Prasad, L V Reddy, G Krishnaiah, Narendra Kumar, Surendra Babu: all outstanding IAS/IPS officers who laid down their lives while doing an honest day’s work. Now a young IAS officer is abducted in Chhattisgarh, ironically while addressing a development meeting.

    There is virtually no other country on the planet where one-third of the nation’s districts are in the grip of Naxalism. Unarguably, some of it may be a response to misgovernance , but a large part of it is a serious law and order problem.

    ———–
    Importantly, if interlocutors and TV cameras are able to reach Maoist hideouts so easily, the State with all the sophistication and might of the Army is more than competent to do so. And it should not wait for someone high profile such as a CM or governor to become a target before it makes the crucial move.

    ———–

    Read on.
    Is this the way go forward? I firmly believe so.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar,

    Gavernment should take very strong action and Maoists should be crushed.

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  • Anonymous

    I could finally log in thru dear Disqus today ….a feat of sorts.
    The Congress Party is gearing up to give a new Prseident to the country. Eligibility criterion… how many years of loyal service has he or her put in for the family which controls the Party. After gifting a Pratibha Patil who conducted herself as dutiful housewife and a PM who has only been been twiddling his thumbs and Governors who proudly proclaimed that they were rewarded for their loyal service…be it Aziz Quereshi or a loyal B V Wanchoo who as Director SPG was seen hovering around Sonia Gandhi or her son but rarely seen near his main protectee the PM of India…. can the Congress led UPA accept a Kalam ? ….No… I don’t think so.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praven Saxenaji,

    elsewhere, in one of my posts, I had made a list of do’s and don’ts for the next people’s president. I am happy that Kalam fulfills all the demands people are likely to make on their next Rashtrapati.

    Pratibha Patil has behaved most shamefully all through her occupancy of the Rashtrapati Bhawan, which has been hallowed by the residencies of the likes of Rajendra prasad, Radhakrishnan, Zakir Hussain and Abdul Kalam.

    She has shamed India.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen,

    TOI had reported that Congress is thinking of nominating either Pranab or
    Hamid Ansari. Defense minister Mr. Antony has gone to meet Karunanadi for
    for this purpose.

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  • Anonymous

    @Mohan

    I hope you managed to read my full response before it was censored. I posted 4 times. All censored.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak ji conceived thrice but didn’t deliver.
    Censor censored, but doesn’t censure,
    3 posts disappear post-haste.

    In the end, I am glad that you are one among us.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hope you don’t forget your own statement !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    I read that and replied. If you did any addition to that then I missed that as I just
    know checked that your comment has been flagged.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That time it was just a part, much lost because of sudden reboot of my system. There were many typos too. I had tried to rewrite, correct typos and posted. I tried posting as a fresh copy thrice, all removed and the old one flagged.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Flagged! That explains it.

    Some people did not like the spilling of beans of the God Ordained Party.

  • Anonymous

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The prediction of flight of capital was discussed long back on this blog itself.

    Not because of Govt. payoff., but because the court’s sudden activism about anything done in record time. The business climate will become conservative in months to come. Cancellation of licenses enblock was one of them. Well we can rejoice cutting and pasting Rs 1,76,000 crore scam big way from the comfort of our call centre computers and feel nice about them , till we start getting the pink slips.

    Time we decorated Vinod Ray, CAG with big medals for his timely ( during CWG ) press conferences.

    Few years down the line we will read about the NEW interpretation of the fallout of the newly found love for federalism. Watch the space.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak,

    Are you suggesting that it was wrong to expose this 2G scam or are you trying to say
    that there no scam?

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    dalali means food and schooling for 3.5 lakh children in a naxal hit
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    We the bloggers at your site have a request. That please dont defend
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  • abc

    the point in this whole blog could have been made in a single elegant sentence – why waste space and time writing this blog

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  • Anonymous

    Rahul Gandhi saw great hope in Beni Prasad during UP election. In fact he is product of Rahul school of thoughtlessness.

    HT has sacred duty of showing Rahul in BRIGHT light whatever the fact on the ground. It is Rahul who is the problem…Have you seen body language of the loser? It is typical of UP goonda mannerism that Rahul displays all the time (Sleeve roll and collar up all the time..Anyone from UP understands what that means).

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