Will quota in promotions serve any purpose?



The politicians will never campaign for merit in jobs or promotions because rarely do they get elected on merits. Many of them get elected because of the freebies they distribute in the form of goodies or promises.

Ironically, they are not even learning lessons from the downslide in the popularity of leaders like Vishwanath Pratap Singh, whose government implemented Mandal commission, and former union minister Arjun Singh, who as HRD minister wanted quota in the faculties of top educational institutions like IIT’s. It did not improve his popular base.

But political parties and their netas continue to experiment with quota politics with two powerful politicians of Uttar Pradesh, Mulayam Singh Yadav and Mayawati, holding the centre-stage. I somehow feel the die is cast. The 2014 Lok Sabha elections will be fought on quota in promotions with Mayawati, supported by UPA II, pushing it despite the supreme court’s stay on her government’s order in the state. Her mentor Kanshi Ram had always preferred ‘power’ to ‘quota’ for Dalits as he had once told me ‘crutches cripple a caste or a community’. But then he was running a mission while Mayawati is doing politics.

What are her gains? She reconsolidates her vote bank in Uttar Pradesh which had started showing signs of fragmentation while exploring opportunities across the country, especially in the states of Maharashtra, Bihar, Haryana, Punjab and Himachal Pradesh. The motive behind SP’s opposition is also crystal clear. They are eying the Muslims, the Brahmins and the Backwards. But what is the Congress gaining? Either it has given up or plans to piggy ride the BSP to retain the 20 odd seats it had won. The recovery of the party has been a major challenge in the state.. And now with their support to quota in promotions, the Congress will only alienate the Brahmins and the Muslims further.

The parties may win or lose, worst is that merit will become a casualty.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/richa.rajesh Richa Rajesh

    Raj Thackeray is like a spoilt, truant son of a great father who has popped out only to claim the legacy while he was no where in nurturing or taking further father’s legacy…. Maharashtra is among the most developed states and that cannot happen without some inherent good qualities about indigenous people. It has been the ‘karmabhoomi’ to great leaders like Justice Ranade, Jyotiba Phule, Bal Gangadhar Tilak, Gopal Krishna Gokhale and of course Baba Saheb Ambedkar who in their own way did tangible service to the state and to the country. Even today maximum taxes come from Mumbai. No wonder it is an attractive place to eye for goons.
    Post Independence Mumbai has acquired a unique place in the country which is primarily due to its multicultural population. Can one imagine Mumbai without Bollywood and Industry. People from all states have been part of Bollywood, and in industry it is the Sindhis, Gujratis, Parsis whose lead contribution is what makes Mumbai what it is of course with the help of local population. In any family, company, there are times when outsiders come in and with service help in evolving it to new heights. That is what multicultural groups have done to Mumbai in the last 50 years. The latest immigrants are of course Biharis and people from Uttar Pradesh who if they are staying in the land of dreams are surviving by giving their labour to the city which is also needed. Demographics of cities across the wold keep changing. Some decades ago London, Canada, Sydney did not have substantial Indian population. Today in New Jersey Indians outnumber Americans…Should they all be beaten and thrown out of those places as just some decades ago they had landed. What then is the starting point of immigration, assimilation for any place if boundaries have to be created on that basis.
    What is Raj Thackaray’s contribution in tangible terms to anything in Maharashtra. He has chosen to remain stuck in Shivaji Park and is claiming the Tiara of Mumbai by virtue of mother tongue for which no hard work effort is needed. I wonder how many Marathi writers he has read or poets he can quote in hope and praise of life, development. This kind of devious shortcut to claiming father’s legacy [he choses only Mumbai as his father, wonder why he does not move to villages of Maharashtra to talk of other issues of state? Is is it because he would rather remain in cosy confines of Mumbai] while denigrating the ‘outsiders’ ‘infiltrators’ who he wants innocent marathis to see as enemy, who are making tangible contribution to the economy of the state through hard work, labour. One need not bother about what Chavan and Nitish Kumar are arguing before each other…Raj Thackeray is just another criminal, anti social element who is a threat to Mumbai and should be dealt with under Indian Penal Code!

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  • http://twitter.com/WwwAshuks Ashutosh

    Thackeray is misleading innocent marathi. He is not bother about other issues in Maharastra. Only trying to divide country for his own personal benefit(for ruling on marathi). Becoz of his recent act, Manipuri students are also soughting for eliminating migrant people. Gradually other state people may start the same thing. govt must take a severe action against him to avoid upcoming serious problems.

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  • Annu

    Chavan is spineless. Raj is his proxy. Next election like last one is like this. marathi vote – 45% divided between cousins. Muslim votes 15-20% goes to Congress n NCP. Migrant votes atleast 30% to congress n NCP. More Raj will go anti, Udhav will follow that less votes of migrants to BJP Sena. This is alll congress policy. And this Bihari cousins are not understanding. In name of Manoos killing the manoos.

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  • dee

    I listened to his interview and there was nothing irrational or anti-national about it.Numbers indicate clearly that all increased crime in mumbai is a direct effect of infiltration from Bihar and UP and this needs to STOP.I am a non-marathi mumbaikar and I am WITH raj in every step of this battle.

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  • Abhijit

    Sujata Anandan is known Pawar sycophant….she even supported him for his Lavasa scam…she is one of the many journalists who have benfitted by sucking upto Pawar

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    jay maharashtr Reply:

    all the journalists is bought by congress….. many of the are partners of netas

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  • santosh

    why are you not responding to my comments on using wrong name for city of mumbai. you ppl just keep calling city as Bombay but when its case of madras you will write new name or when its case of orisa you will write new name odisha but when it is about mumbai yopu keep calling it bombay . My question is why answer is you mind is prejudice and fill with bias. You please read book written of the Raj Grand father . He has written many books not only one book. The book which you and digvijay sing is refering ( actually he does not have job in Mp for last ten yr so keep commenting on issue so to keep in news) from whcih you are referring also mentioned about his for fathers . why are you not referring to it. If his education was from devas what is wrong, devas was ruled by maratha in early part till British took over, for the matter most part of India was rules by Maratha before british took over so If Marathis were there in mp or some part of up why are you making such big issue. They were there as part of ruling setup and settle down their. Take a case of Karnataka , you must be aware bang lore was build of Shahaji Raj father of Shivaiji and they had taken some 400 family of Maratha with them to this part now this 400 marathi families settel down in south and their children speak Kanada. Take case of rajnikant , every one known he is Marathi but he prefer to call him south indian .Whenever Marathi has gone out of state they have tried to merge with locals . There is no case of calling raj a migrant as his for fathers are from maharashtra , so even if his grand father may have education in devas which was a part of Maratha kingdom , oday also there are many marathi leaving in that parts as they were ruler of that part before birtish took over.
    I am not understanding why you just keep targeting Raj , why you did not right about 11/8 incident , you were mum on that issue why?
    why you dont write editorial on biharies connection with criminals , their involvement in crime in mumbai , how many cirminals are arrested from bihair in connection with crime done in mumbai . You will keep mum on this issue if write on this issue who will take note of it. You dont write about bihar cm who take objection to arresting a criminal whos involvement is clearly seen in photos . you did not write on that did you ?
    your only aim is create a bad reputation of MNS or Shiv Sena. .
    You only choose to published favorable comments in the news papers . your paper keep printing wrong email address and dont even revert back .
    My question is why are you using the old name of city when legally it has been changed .your answer may be i have freedom to write what i want similarly raj has right to express his views. If some ppl get hurt you are worried but what about your writing which is also causing hurt to some section of ppl . So should we file a case against you for hurting the feeling of marathi community . If you have the real issue the revert back with anwwers to my queries which i have already send to you .

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    jay maharashtr Reply:

    well said……. keep it up

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  • santosh

    where has my comment gone , why it is not displayed because i have accused you of having bias againt Marathi or you do not have answer to the question raised

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    vimal Reply:

    Is Bharat , India and Hindustan are different countries ???

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  • Naresh Kamath

    Those who saw Raj when he began the party in 2006 was that he tried to be all inclusive. However in 2007, when he failed to make the mark in the civic elections winning just 7 seats in Mumbai, he turned to Marathi Manoos agenda targeting the North Indians.
    The difference between uncle and son are —Bal Thackeray targeted the South Indians and managed to replace them with Mahashtrians in Mantralaya, BMC and banks. However Raj seems to be far away from reality as North Indians work as newspaper vendors, taxi and rickshaw drivers as well as making idols, which no Marathi lad wants to do.

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  • Anonymous

    in one of her blog post , she accepted that in her young age , one fine night she slept with Sharad pawar ..If you don’t trust me then check her old blog posts

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Fern/100002936991363 Sean Fern

    This lady should get her facts right kayastha, brahmin etc all caste travelled from north to south-east-west of india so no point in saying that CKP came from UP bcoz the Aryans travelled in the indus valley for fertile land from the today’s date european region, She doesnt even know about the maratha Empire which was from tamil nadu to delhi and upto present day pakistan so if you say a maharastrain coming to mumbai from lahore one should not be surprised the Maratha Empire was the last to fall in front of the british empire the only left anti-british warriors were the SIKH who eventually became british soldiers after their surrender who later beacme the soldiers of indian army after independence Raj is doing good till now but not in a right way Wat good has this lady done for the people, at least do your job right put up the facts right !

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Fern/100002936991363 Sean Fern

    $$$$$$$$This lady should get her facts right kayastha, brahmin etc all caste travelled from north to south-east-west of india so no point in saying that CKP came from UP bcoz the Aryans travelled in the indus valley for fertile land from the today’s date european region, She doesnt even know about the maratha Empire which was from tamil nadu to delhi and upto present day pakistan so if you say a maharastrain coming to mumbai from lahore one should not be surprised the Maratha Empire was the last to fall in front of the british empire the only left anti-british warriors were the SIKH who eventually became british soldiers after their surrender who later beacme the soldiers of indian army after independence Raj is doing good till now but not in a right way Wat good has this lady done for the people, at least do your job right put up the facts right !

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    jay maharashtr Reply:

    exactly…!!!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Fern/100002936991363 Sean Fern

    i just made it post so many times so that you may read it a line before you delete / hide / refuse to reply

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  • jay maharashtr

    hindi news channel always hates marathi ppl….

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  • Ambedkar

    The write of this article “Will quota in promotions serve any purpose?” is totally stupid. her article is purely anti-dalit and anti-reservation. either she does not know about the black past and present of Dalits in India which is the half of the total population or she hates or fears Dalits so much just because some dalits made some progress in the some urban areas of India despite the protest of people like her. I think she fears that one day Dalits will become her boss and she has to follow their orders or do some Chakri for them. people are talking bullsh***t about the reservation on some baseless argument I ask them all Do you know Why reservation was made for Dalits in Indian constitution? Do you know anything about the history of Shudras in India? Dalits just want their rights and they will take it either by talk or by force and no body can stop them (at least the half-mind writer of this article cannot)…..let dalits make some progress let them make some name and position in the society. She is mixing the rights of Dalits with the Politics of Maya and Mulayam and we condemn that. She has no right to write such things when she has not done good for any Dalit. One the one hand people like her did not allowed the Dalits to make progress in the society in the name of caste for more than several thousands of years, on the other hand today when dalits are making some progress despite the hostile environment and discrimination that they have to face no matter whether it is in school, college or any other educational or non-educational institutions. in the villages the situation is more worse than urban areas of India. your people were discriminating and denied Dalits from their right for several centuries then it was ok for you and today when we making some progress and got some rights you are making fun of us, you are protesting against Dalits and our rights. shame on you guys shame on you. merit will always be there and nobody can deny the importance of merit. merit will never become some causality……………..

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    Manik Reply:

    Amazing….The writer is bringing the issue of current politics of reservation and politician system…..Reservation is never solution for any reforms and reforms has to come from within and with social reforms. the first step is electing candidates who have track record than electing an idiot who belongs to their caste/religion or is a crook….

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    reply to manik Reply:

    Bro do not mix the war of rights with politics. Mayawati is not doing politics over reservation she is fighting for Dalits right which people like that writer and you think is an opportunity for raising votes through reservation politics. you believe it or not reservation may not not be the sole solution for social justice (dalits deserves more than just reservation) but it is way to get social justice. reservation in itself a kind of reform- reform started for the welfare of half-population of India. yes you are right Social reforms comes from within but can you tell what reforms that “your” society has started for Dalits. think think. your society in totally Brahmanical. Brahmanism is sh**t and you people lives in this Sh**t. Brahmanism is the second name of discrimination. it is Anti-Dalit, supports caste system, in fact caste is the most integral part of this sh**t. your society never took and will never start any reforms for the welfare of Dalits (at least til now I do not see it). Dalits are the one who started reforms for that you should be thankful to Dalits. 1 kahawat hai hindi mai “Zisko chot lagti hai, dard kya hota hai usi ko pata hota hai” dalits have no option but to vote either Congress or Dalits Own BSP. Dalits are now organizing themselves to fight for their rights, to fight for social justice and equality and one think I must tell you Dalits will start the reforms not your people. quota is not a politics at least for BSp and Mayawati. It may be a politics for Congress and definitely it is the Mulayam singh who is using caste for vote bank not Mayawati.

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    Manik Reply:

    Amazing stupidity by bringing in caste like brahmanism etc etc cinto the play…..For last 60+ reservation has not stopped castism in India and will never be…..Social reforms and education will and def. revolution against caste based politics will….You are totally fixated on reservation is amazing….

    Jitendra chaturvedi Reply:

    Dear Ambedkar ji ,
    Author has rightly concluded “worst is that merit will become a casualty.’Which is what is the concern of everyone including I am sure you.There is no doubt that dalits were deprived of their due historically and precisely for this reason Dr Ambedkar provided for reservation in the constitution for Dalits and weaker section for limited period of 10 years.After 65 years of independence reservation still continues and now we want to extend it in promotions also. Do we stop fostering and rewarding excellence???Dont you think we need to create and ecosystem which produces world class Doctors,Scientists,Engineers???
    In the heart of heart all of us want it irrespective of cast or backround.
    Progress of Dalits is imperative in the progress of Nation.Now it is no longer rare to find Dalits doing well in different walks of life and this is a heartening sign.

    Problem is this- reservation policy is being used by politicians for their vote bank politics.Congress has been doing it since independence and now Mayawati is using it as a tool in UP.I dont think you will disagree with this.

    It is meant for the progress and prosperity of poor dalits not for making Mayawati more and more prosperous.

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  • Ramesh Kumar

    THE PROBLEM IS A BIAS WHICH EXISTED IN THE PAST AND HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED PROPERLY TILL DATE.THE ANSWERS ARE EQUALLY FAULTY.
    IN MY VIEW THERE HAD BEEN FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG APPROACH OF CONGRESS RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING.
    LAWS HAD BEEN MADE BUT NEVER IMPLEMENTED.WE HAVE LOT OF CATEGORIES IN DALITS ALSO.I CONSIDER ALL POOR, OR DEPRIVED FALL IN THAT CATEGORY.
    I FEEL FEW THINGS THAT SHOULD HELP.
    1.EDUCATE ALL ECONOMICALLY WEAK.
    2.WHY NATION CANNOT COMPLETELY ERADICATE MANUAL SCAVENGING.OTHER DAY JAI RAM RAMESH WAS APOLOGIZING.IS THAT ENOUGH?A MINISTER IS SUPPOSE TO DELIVER!WHY MAYAWATI DOESNOT SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE.
    3.NO FORM SHOULD HAVE CASTE COLUMN.
    4.WHY TV CHANNELS DISCUSS ELECTIONS WITH DETAIL LIKE PATEL ETC.DO THESE CHANNEL INTEND TO CREATE MORE DIVISION.THIS NONSENSE MUST STOP.
    5.THERE IS A MERIT IN ALL COMMUNITIES.IT MUST BE BROUGHTOUT AND SUITABLY REWARDED.
    6.EVERY HUMANBEING MUST BE RESPECTED.WHEN MONTEK AHLUWALIA CONSTRUCT A TOILET FOR 30 LACS,HE SHOULD REMEMBER ,IT IS POOR NATIONS MONEY.

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  • Atul

    Do you know that India is the largest importer of arms and weapon system in the world?

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