Breakfast With Global Times

For a new generation of Indians, the most infamous Chinese newspaper is the Global Times. A newspaper owned by the People’s Daily and thus by the Chinese government, it has carved a niche for itself as the voice of ultranationalism. Some have argued that the paper modelled itself on Fox News. The editor in chief, Hu Xijin, when asked, says, “I have been told this. But I had never heard of Fox News until I was asked this.”

Global Times editorials and often its oped pieces are among the most critical of the Indian government and, arguably, even more critical of countries like Japan and Vietnam when the newspaper comments on foreign policy issues. In India, this has caused much excitement since it is assumed that a state-owned newspaper must be reflecting the opinion of the Chinese Communist Party and Chinese government.

Global Times staffers argue otherwise. They take a tough stance in part because that is their market nice — many of whom are from the security forces or young urbanites with a strong sense of nationalism. Hu himself, whom I met twice on his first visit to India last week, is circumspect when asked about how much direct control Beijing has on what his paper says. “The party put me in this job and they can take me away,” he notes. “Over the years, party control is getting weaker.”

In other words, I gathered, he has a fair amount of leeway on what Global Times says. The newspaper, which has both Chinese and English versions with different staff, does not reflect official government opinion but its responses are within the spectrum of acceptable stances as far as the party is concerned.

Hu, who came to our residence because he wanted to eat a traditional Indian meal at an Indian journalist’s home, was much more interested in the state of Indian media. He was suitably impressed at the number of Indian media outlets — 85,000 registered newspapers and magazines. “More than China. We have only 5,000.” Nodded sagely on hearing the wages of Indian journalists in the mainstream newspapers. “Similar, like ours.” And was pleased to hear that the Hindustan Times staff was 48 women. “Our figure much higher. Many more women in Chinese journalism.” But he somewhat undermined this accomplishment by admitting that Chinese men were leaving the profession because they saw its wages and prospects as stagnant.

What Hu did seem to describe was a Chinese newspaper sector struggling with stagnant revenues and readers who had other things to do. This seemed surprising given that China was an economy with a GDP nearly four times that of India. But it was also a country where political debate was severely circumscribed and, presumably, readers didn’t see much point in spending a few yuan just to hear the government line. Global Times had carved a space for itself by commenting a lot of international issues and taking a hard-nosed pro-China line on most of them.

Hu admitted he had come to India to get a better sense of why relations between the two Asian giants had been souring. He seemed suitably surprised by some of the reasons put forward by myself and others. One was the simple fact that Beijing has been deliberately obstructing any attempt by India to join key international groupings and fora like the Nuclear Suppliers Group and getting a permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council. “I don’t know the details of these foreign policy issues,” he said.

Hu’s argument seemed to be that there was an image problem between the two countries and that media was responsible. He indirectly blamed the Indian media more than his own paper. He claimed the Global Times had attacked India on the basis of a Hindustan Times article describing a statement by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in the US but had been later told by the then Indian ambassador to China that the HT report had been incorrect. I have heard this before from Global Times staffers: “The Indian and Chinese newspapers cause problems by arguing with each other.”

While there is no doubt that the rise of a neo-nationalist media in both countries has exacerbated tension, there is also no doubt that the first mover in all this was specific Chinese policies that were seen as hostile to India: the verbal resurrection of territorial claims on Arunachal Pradesh, the stapling of visas on the passports of Indian Kashmiris and so on.

By chance, the bookshelf in my living room holds mostly books on China and so Hu and the four other Global Times staffers who accompanied him were suitably impressed (or troubled) by my seeming obsession with things Chinese. But their visit, which included seeing slums in Mumbai and the Infosys campus in Bangalore, may have a moderating impact on Global Times’s view of India. As one of the younger journalists told me, “This is my first trip to India. I had expected much hostility towards China because of the articles we carry describing the arguments between the two countries. But people are quite friendly here.” He concluded that there was some misunderstanding between the two countries that required both sides to get a better understanding of the other side.

Sometimes there were surprising agreements between Indians and Chinese. I complained that the Chinese embassy normally declined to comment on even the most mundane of issues or clarifications. “They are like this with us too,” said the Global Times team. After quizzing my wife and I about our income, taxes and even what our driver was paid — and inspecting even the room of the live-in maid — Hu promptly posted much of this with photos on Sina Weibo — the Chinese equivalent of Twitter. This, it seems, is the kind of information about India that Chinese young really want to know.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Very depressing story and I am hungry and very angry right now – and there are no birds around of any flock to be had for lunch, sadly.


  • John Rock

    well, nobody cares about some unknown mouth piece of a communist regime, until Indian media projects it repeatedly. So don’t fall for these unknown so called global media run by communist Chinese government


  • Mamutty chola

    The way the terrorists are targetting our cities at will,reflects failures of our intellegence machinaries -Both at state and central levels.
    There has not been a single terrorist attack in USA since 9/11,shows how effective are their intelligence operatives.Mind you, they are targets of multiple terror groups.
    We must engage US intelligence experts in training our officers .we must bench-mark their best practices.

    Also there is a need to evolve transparent based justice systems.we cannot attain long- term internal peace without justice to the aggrieved. Innocents citizens kept in our jails without trials must be freed.Terrorists have No religion. No religious scriptures, be it ,Quran, Bhagvat Geeta,, Bible, gurugarath Saheb,teaches hatreds towards others. INJUSTICE does .It is a wake up call for all Indians who love their motherland.


  • Anonymous

    I think we need to remember that in comparison ot most of Europe we have become a high population country with high density of population also.,

    China followed the one child norm inspired by Sanjay Gandhi.

    At the end of the day in case populaiton control was NOT a religious issue, India would have already been among the most developed.


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  • Abhi

    “High growths don’t pull people out of poverty.”
    It can, if some groups do not multiply much faster than others just to create a vote bank!


  • Anonymous

    Actually Zia is saying that a puny ISLAMIC country like Bangladesh beats India in Human development index…never mind genocide on non-muslims especially hindus in Bangladesh.


    Abu Ahmed Reply:

    India’s populations is huge – whatever and however much is distributed, it still falls short by a huge margin. Why, even Afghanistan fares better than us in some ways – those who manage to survive there eat better than most Indians! Now dont remark that the Afghans have treated Hindus worse than B’desh. Okay, look at Nepal, Thaliand, Phillipines, most of africa. Our people have a very big appetite for corruption and that eats away all the short-supply of goodies.


    Anonymous Reply:

    That is why we need Modi who will take care of corruption.

    As far as Bangaldes is concerned, 20% of their population lives in India


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  • Anonymous

    Zia before you extoll the virtues of bangladesh vis a vis ISLAMIC model
    would you care to answer the following queries

    even bangladesh’s biggest export garments , the fabric is sourced from INDIA
    5. HOW MANY YEARS OF PEOPLE’S WILL (read DEMOCRACY) has bangladesh enjoyed

    1. SEND CONgress party packing for good

    .2 India needs REVOLUTION IN AGRICULTURE, fully mechanised agriculture with massive acreage by coalescing pattas , corporate farming, patta holders being share holders




    Anonymous Reply:


    Outlook magazine reported that Nirad Chaudhari was a British spy. People on Vindo Sharma’s blog were speculating that you left blogging after you got this info.


    Anonymous Reply:

    @Vinoo, perhaps it has escaped your attention , I had replied to you when you raided this question in Zia ’s previous blog on the down turn of indian economy. Anyway here you have it again

    inoo have you heard of any indian spying for pakistan hanging the
    portrait of jinnah in his home. same here , nirad dick head did not make
    any bones about his mesmerisation with the racist scum churchill and in
    his book “the continent of circe , he unashamedly claims to have
    redidcovered his european roots through his aryan ancestry. So there you
    have it. after reading Madhushree Mukherjee’s book i now rate nirad as a
    buffoon, then nirad moron was a history graduate , and madhushree is a
    phd in physics form newyork uni, and used to be on the editorial board
    of Scientific American. It is like comparing nirad ambassador car with
    madhushree porsche carrera
    As regards his getting a job after sarat bose was arrested, this was a job of a clerk, hardly a high ranking job. Do remember he came out 1st class first in BA history honours , but had exam phobia (my interpretation) so did not sit for MA. However he had studied French History in FRENCH , from original sources.
    I do not think he was a spy , HE HAD TO ENDURE MASSIVE HARDSHIP and he has recounted that in his book
    I do not come to the blog because of work pressure and have been doing a lot of travelling across europe. If interested let me know , I will relate my life enriching experiences


    Anonymous Reply:

    come to vindo sharma’s blog. Lot of people talk about your there

    vijay ! Reply:

    Shan remember your passionate espousal of the “giant” called
    Nirad Chaudhary. I always told you he was a Brit agent out to tell INdia that you cold never beceome as good as the whites.

    Is it not correct now…?

  • Anonymous

    A lot of happiness comes from ignorance. The people of North Korea are very happy because they are insulated form the rest of the world and they believe that their dictator is God. The suicde bombing youth of Pakistan go to jannat with a smile.

    Real happiness only comes when you can be rich, free and not bound by dctats of religious zombies.


  • engrich

    Musharraf Returns


    Sino-Pak naval cooperation reiterated


    Posted by Ece Koc on Apr 9, 2013 in Interviews | 0 comments


    Professor John Esposito


    By Ece Koc

    Professor John Esposito, the outspoken inter-faith promoter
    was recently on A9 TV’s Building Bridges show. Esposito, offered his
    views on many subjects including US media’s way handling news about
    Islam, the ways to cope radicalism and the notorious Regensburg Speech
    of Pope.

    Esposito is a figure known for his strong views in favor of
    building ties with the Islamic world, especially after 9/11, when many
    people thought otherwise. From time to time, he became such a
    controversial figure, many people accused him of downplaying the threat
    of terrorism. He, however, seems unabated by all this criticism, and is
    gaining more and more popularity now. Esposito most recently appeared on
    A9 TV of Istanbul, a television channel known for its efforts to
    promote peace in the world. So when the hosts asked him about how Islam
    is covered in the mainstream US media, Esposito had lots to say:

    “…two-thirds of that will be about mainstream Judaism and
    Christianity, practices, relations, good news and then maybe one-third
    will deal with problems and issues, okay? The reverse is true in
    covering Islam and Muslims in general; that is a disproportionate amount
    deals with what I would call the explosive headline events, the
    conflict events. What you see is this kind of Islamophobic, or bias to
    Islam in regard to a religion, has become part of our mainstream
    politics; in other words, its mainstream politicians. And then there are
    your militant Christian Zionist preachers, many of which have
    megachurches or are televangelists who have large TV followings, or are
    talking heads in the media and again, politicians and others, so that
    not only impacts and affects, if you will, not only Muslims
    domestically, but it falso impacts American foreign policy.”

    He feels that the way most of the time Islam is portrayed is unfair,
    and anyone could have applied the same approach to Judaism and
    Christianity, too, if they wanted: “The way you feel about Muslims,
    the way you think about Muslims, if you don’t make the kind of
    distinctions that I’m talking about the vast majority of Muslims and
    Islamists, and Islam as a religion of peace, then you have a problem. It
    would be the same, analogously, if you say, “Look, if you look at the
    early history and down through the centuries, Christianity was not a
    religion of saints but a religion of warriors” and was often used to
    spread the religion, from the conquistadors to European imperialism, and
    even the logic of a good deal of American neo-colonialism in terms of
    Christians see as opening up the Muslim world to greater conversions,
    and if you take into consideration pedophilia and see Christianity or
    Roman Catholicism and see it through that, you would be seeing it
    through a very distorted lens.”

    Esposito also feels very strongly against Islamophobia and indeed he
    has been very frequently targeted himself by Islamophobists as well: “And
    I think the thing that you want to keep in mind too is that the
    situation gets ratcheted up exponentially because we have so many
    mean-spirited, right-wing Islamophobic websites; so for example, if an
    article appears criticizing me, in a matter of days that will be picked
    up and appear in a dozen different versions and appear in all these
    other websites, and your average American, many of them wind up looking
    at these websites. Many of them have titles, it’s not just the websites
    like “JihadWatch”, it’s the websites that have titles that seem nice and
    innocuous, websites like “American Thinker” “Family Security”, and so I
    think that’s what ratchets that up exponentially.”

    We are swimming against the tide

    Esposito also mentioned that especially after 9/11, the Islamophobists had the opportunity to cash in the fears of people:

    “On those websites, it is simply said in general that Muslims are a
    problem, that Muslims are a threat to security, that Islam is a
    problem. Therefore, if there’s an attack made, other websites pick this
    up because they all cross-fertilize themselves and over a ten-year
    period, over forty million dollars was given by acceptable foundations
    to these kind of websites and their creators and many of these folks are
    quoted as the terrorists affect them; the Norwegian terrorist, Breivik,
    quoted these folks extensively, and on the other hand, on page 66,
    there’s a page attacking me and my center for our work. So that’s where
    we’re at. The whole point is that you’re doing, what so many of us do,
    is very important because we are swimming against the tide, as it were,
    in terms of popular culture and a distorted conventional wisdom.”

    When asked about his views on how to combat radicalism, he had one answer: ‘education’. Esposito elaborates: “I
    think the first thing, the most important thing frankly is education.
    And also it becomes very important to get religious leaders on board.
    You know, one of the difficult thing, and here I have to be quite frank,
    I admire the way that religion and religious education and Islamic
    reform is being done by a number of Turks, both in government and
    non-government. The thing is, yes we can get to a point where we get
    very senior religious leaders, the real impact comes when those senior
    religious leaders make sure that the priests, rabbis and imams are
    trained in their religious schools to have that pluralistic, tolerant
    outlook because they are the people who impact the local communities.
    They impact the families of the people who are going to be parents, they
    impact the kids who are going to the mosques, synagogues and churches.
    All of this is very important.


  • Faulitics

    Well, Zia has done something which he has never done before. That is NOT whine about Muslims being “victims”. But I am sure he will be back to his old communal game. This is just a respite.


  • vijay !



    VARIOUS Islamist groups in Bangladesh are demanding that a new anti-blasphemy law be formulated under which the death penalty can be awarded to those who defame Islam and the Prophet (PBUH).

    It has been rejected by Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina. Nevertheless, the demand and the scale of the emotion and controversy it has stirred up serve to deepen political polarisation in the country. There is little doubt that the end result will be an intensification of the divide between secularists and Islamists.

    In a fresh wave of protests launched by the Islamist group Hefajat-i-Islam (‘protecting Islam’) against bloggers that they consider anti-Islam, hundreds of thousands of people held rallies in Dhaka and other cities and towns across the country.

    They criticised the Awami League government for not taking severe action against those who, in the recent past, augmented their purportedly anti-Islam activities through online social networks and blogs.

    Islamist groups are adamant in their demand and say that they are committed to sustaining their pressure on the government to formulate laws which can award the death penalty to those found guilty of insulting Islam.