Pious foes of terror



When I was in college in upstate New York, the spring would melt the snow and bring wandering groups of evangelical Christian preachers to the campuses. The agnostics and areligious would come and listen to Sister Cindy stand on a bench and explain how they would all burn in hell — to huge waves of laughter.

The only people who would be incensed by these preachers, and who would get into arguments and shouting matches with them, were — other Christians. Normally some church-going student whose vision of god was more benign and benevolent than the fire-and-brimstone preachers would be the on to berate them.

(Not a surprise, there are four distinct views of god among American Christians. )

It is a pattern one sees repeatedly. Monotheistic religions treat groups who claim to be of their creed but differ slightly in practice or ideology face a special kind sort of hatred. The heretic or heretic is much worse than the pagan or the nonbeliever. The latter can claim ignorance, the former have no excuse. Catholic persecution of the Albigensian Christians. Marxist-Leninists going after Trotskyites. There is always a greater anger between two groups who claim the same ideological space.

This, I believe, can be used to political advantage in fighting Islamicist radicals. There is a simplistic tendency by some to argue that a conservative Muslim would automatically be in the same mindspace as a Taliban fighter. Not necessarily so. Many pious Muslims are repelled by Al Qaeda or the Taliban, seeing them as mass murderers or mediaeval throwbacks who pretend to wear the garb of Islam.

This was underlined once again by the careful electoral distinctions that the Muslim Brotherhood candidate in Egypt made between himself and the more extreme Salafists. It was also brought home to me by the recent Pew Global Attitudes Survey’s Pakistan Project report. Polling Pakistani Muslims who prayed five times a day versus those who didn’t as a crude measure of piety, the polling found that who prayed more were more likely to disapprove of the Lashkar e Tayyeba by a sizeable 14 percentage points.

They disapproved, in fact, of Al Qaeda, of the Taliban and the Haqqani Network more than their less religious counterparts.

One can hypothesize that a less religious Muslim could find political or other secular reasons to support Islamicist militants while a pious one would have those reasons offset by a sense that these terrorists are besmirching his faith.

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  • Abu Ahmed

    Israel’s interest is in delaying the settlement of the Palestinian issue and it is doing so since the 90s. The USA knows that settlement of that problem would solve many of its problems with extremists in the mid-east. Obama would do it if reelected & Netanyahu do not want him to be reelected for that very reason. The nuclear issue is just another ruse for the neo-cons & the Zionists to open one more war-front so as to keep the US mired in warfare, grab energy resources and replace regimes with the ones suitable to them. The US is already there in Af/Pak and is keeping an eye on Pakistan, Afghanistan, China, Iran, central asian countries, and most importantly for us all, India. Its a fact that more bomb explosions took place in India since 2011 than ever before.

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    Abu Ahmed Reply:

    Sorry, more explosions since 9/11, not 2011!

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @ Abu, just how conveniently you are able to spear Israel as the belligerent state itching for a war. You ( as other leftists and apologists for Islamic nations) seem to conveniently “forget” that it was Israel that was attacked , not once, not twice, but three times and not by one but by 5 Islamic nations in one instance. The land was won at great cost and and at a very high count of life and blood. Israeli polititicians are not “stupid” as our beloved politicians have proved repeatedly to be, return land wrested with blood, limb and life without any guarantee of peace. Israel is well within its legitimate right to negotiate hard for guarantees of peace. After all Israel does not fire rockets or sends suicide-bombers who are eager to be married to 72 virgins. Besides, there never has been any country named Palestine. That area was taken over by Great Britian after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. Palestine has always been a geographical enitity, never a plolitical state. The real impediment to the political settlement for a new state of Palestine has always been the absoloutist attitude of the Palestinians, who insisted in everything or nothing.

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    RajX Reply:

    Most of the bomb explosions were carried out by your brotherly arabized jihadis and not by the mythical Zionists. Ranting about Jews aka Zionists is a clear sign of arabization. Are you not ashamed as an Indian to allow a foreign culture to put political opinions in ur head using their religious network? Why are you so weak?

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    engrich Reply:

    in india bombs were planted by brhmnst.not by jihadis.

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  • Anonymous

    “A nuclear bomb may or may not result in it bombing Israel.”
    Is that an acceptable risk? Israel should sit back and see whether Iran nukes it?

    A strike on Iran’s nuclear installations will really stop Iran IF the strike kills their scientists as well. Kill the guys working on it, and voila! Wish Indira Gandhi had the brains to do this to Pakistan.

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  • Franck Stern

    Really! “level Iran in a day.” That is a fantasy by Israel. How long did it take NATO to quell Afghanistan? The little state of the size of NJ will not exist after a war with Iran. Big brother, the US has been talking of going to war with Iran for decades. What the US has not done, Israel will woe. The West is making Israel feel it is more important than it is. as far as I am concern, Israel is the real threat to International peace – not Iran.

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    RajX Reply:

    Don’t you think NATO could have leveled Afghanistan in a day if that’s what it wanted to do? Maybe you do not know much about the military capabilities of these countries involved. They can level ten irans to the ground if they want . Religious affinity with a particular country should not be the criteria for supporting a country. That’s cult like behavior and immoral.

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    MerkMan Reply:

    Franck, Israel has many nuclear weapons and missiles to deliver them. If Israels stated goal was to “Wipe Iran off the Map”, it has the technology to accomplish that task in about 20 minutes. It has had this capacity for about 30 years by most accounts. The fact that Israel has been through 2 wars of aggression against it by its neighbor countries in that time as well as being tormented by militants funded in no small part by Iran for all of that time, you still consider them the greatest threat to international Peace? You are smoking crack Franck, history demonstrates all the Jews want to do is live and be left alone. The mullahs in Iran and the corrupt states that surround Israel despise it’s very existence and have pledged to erase Israel from the middle east. I don’t hear noises like that coming from Israel, do you?

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  • RajX

    “A nation with highly nationalistic aspirations, Iran doesn’t want to be dominated.”
    Zia seems to admire the nationalism of Iran but his opinion of Indian nationalist is very low and I don’t think he will consider himself a nationalist. So why is nationalism good for a theoretic shai muslim Iran but bad for secular India in Zia’s mind?

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  • Anonymous

    I think we should keep out of this fight and just ensure we get a good oil supply from Iran. I think we are doing a good job bbtw dint Iran allow Pakistan to park their jets in Iranian territory during a previous war !!

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