Obama’s AfPak Usa War



Barack Obama’s speech ordering 30,000 more US troops to Afghanistan was the closest thing to a war cry that the new administration has made. It fell short, of course. There is an obvious contradiction in saying things like “I will finish the job” and then speak of rolling back the troops by July 2011 or speak of ending the threat of Al Qaeda and saying building an Afghan nation is not what the US plans to do.

It has already been seized upon by Republicans but also by Taliban leaders.

Definitely you’re not going to see any further commitments by countries like India or Iran – there is nothing in what Obama has said that will not make them continue to hedge against a US withdrawal and a Taliban resurrection.

There was no real strategic picture about the Afpak region in the speech – just retreaded (if valid) Al Qaeda is going to get us warnings.

But I think we can live with this speech. Obama was speaking to an American audience. And he was speaking to his own party constituency, almost none of whom support the Afghan war any more. “I am going to wage a war you hate. I’m sorry but it’s a fact. As sops I promise a fuzzy withdrawal timeline and talk about civilian surges and pulling up Hamid Karzai,” is how I would summarize the speech.

I think Obama feels vulnerable politically. His ratings are gently falling but largely because there is no sign of job creation in the US economy and a general sense of nonaccomplishment in his administration. He doesn’t want to have a Bill Clinton type midterm congressional election disaster. And he doesn’t want to open the door to a Peace Now candidate in 2012 splitting his party and handing the presidency to the Republicans.

So he’s muddling right now. If he could have, he would have put off making a decision on Afghanistan. But the ground situation was too grim to afford him that luxury.

The question is what happens if his political capital is replenished: healthcare reform passed, jobs start rolling in and so on. My guess is that his war cry will have less of a quaver in it as the possibility of a Democratic left revolt recedes.

Many Democrats and others still believe Obama is just looking for an exit strategy.

I don’t think so. I think he’s seeing the threat reports about Pakistan piling up on his desk and he’s saying that if he wants to rule for eight years he can’t be short-termist about this.

People forget that in US history it is Democratic presidents who have most often taken their country to war. And they do it like Obama: reluctantly, half-secretly and only revealing their true colours once the time is right at home.

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  • Vikram

    it was useless to get into a s**thole like afganistan. they should have got in blasted a few. make them respect whom they r dealing with, a swift kick in the backside to their pakis masters with threat of much more in case they try to do any more of their devilish business, also taken out their nukes to prevent any future catastrophic damage. and then out. and of course be ready of future punitiver action since these people afpak have always been crooks and barbarioans at the doors they will never change. they cannot, its in their blood and mothers milk. only good thing can be done is to take out their nukes and keep them relatively harmless with time anad again use of brutal force. that is the only thing they ever understand. i wonder hwy dont they elect me as the us president. for one i am not born there hmmm ;)

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    ram Reply:

    Thak God for Af-Pak or terrorist hordes of ISI-Pakistamn would have continued to taken PM SIngh an dhis peaceniks for a ride and ripped lazy Indian Govenment to shreds in Kashmir. At least we can afford tp grow at 8-9% in our shamocracy where rich and corrupt prosper and middle class and the poor are victims of terorism due to corruption of our venal, rodent like top bureaucracy and minsters more itersted in increasing bank balances in millions of crores and torturing the common Indian.

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    Abhisaar Reply:

    How does blaming “lazy Indian Govenment” , Indian shamocracy & the corruption of rich have to do anything with “Obama’s AfPak Usa War” that this article is all about.
    Stop fretting & blaming Government, Rich folks & everybody else around. We all are part of the problem.
    How many MBA / IIT /Doctors and engineers do you know who would work in government jobs for the good of the country rather than huge huge packages in corporations.
    How many of us would not jump a red traffic light when no cops are around . Or rather pay 1000/= traffic fine , instead of slipping 50/- to the cop.

    It is ” i ” that need to change. You do your part and I do mine.

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  • Abhisaar

    Was’nt he the same Obama one who got this years Nobel Peace prize. There is not 1 single reason why he got the Peace prize? Both wars in Iraq & Afg are still raging hot and now include Pakistan….and then the dude goes and sends another 30,000 to the war . Maybe my defination of Peace is little outdated but I this that is called escalation on war…not peace.
    But I would credit Obama for atleast not starting war with naughty North Korea and an increasingly rude Iran.

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  • Arnab Mitra

    It’s a quid pro quo… India has to decide: what does it want… and what price is it willing to pay for it…. for this, the govt will have to do a hardnosed cost-benefit analysis to decide which positions it can give up and what it wants in return.

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    Abu Ahmed Reply:

    Exactly – the West Asians not only absorb millions of our work-force, they are also a very big market for our products; its another matter that we are not pushing our products there as much as we should. And we are also dependent over their oil. What more quid pro quo status are u looking for? Do u realise how much US$ we are receiving from our work-force based in the West Asia – all white money, hard-earned and squeaky clean. Israel is dependent over us for its defense products – we are not dependent over Israel for anything at all, apart from pleasing the Americans Jews and following an anti-Muslim line. Don’t fool yourself, it won’t take u any further – whereas West Asia is the place where we can export our labour as well as agro- industrial products.

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  • JJJackxon

    1. I agree that US Republican economic nostrums are crazy but Republicans have a global vision which places India near the epicenter (including a Japan-India-Australia-US alliance of democracies). India can really use US support to slay its own demons, for example, the politically paralyzing fear of China and of FDI in retail and to move toward a strategic alliance with Vietnam and yes, Taiwan.
    2. As long the US is kicking *** with Pakistan, Pak will try to make nice with India. The moment that stops, Pak will be back to its hate-India, terrorize-India institutionalized habits. Indian policy should be to quietly build offensive military and anti-terror capabilities and encourage the break-up of Pak. After so many years and so many wrong turns, there simply is no other way.
    3. India does not have to match China’s military power at every point but it does have to do so at the BORDER and in the NAVY. China does not want to occupy India; their policy is to cow India into psychological submission so India does what China wants without the Chinese having to attack India. Strengthening the border must include capabiity or offensive retaliation as well as political and military readiness to liberate Tibet (dont scream). As Indians and Chinese see that India is serious about defending itself, China will begin to accept India’s rise and Indian citizens will become less hysterical re Chinese intentions.

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  • Gt12563

    Both Democratic and GOP have same policies towards India and whoever wins in next election will not make much difference but most probably Mr.Obama will win because GOP does not have any strong candidate.Regarding China we have to take care ourselves on eastern border by strengthen our armed forces with latest weapons and modern infrastructure and ballistic missiles with nuclear weapons.America always thinks her own interest first and there is no permanent friendship with any nation in their books and generally do not change its foreign policy easily.What Mr.Bush did it was good for both countries and not alone for India.My guess is Obama adminstration was disappointed when India decided not to buy 126 fighter planes and change his adminstrations attitude to wards India but it may change soon.

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  • Anonymous

    This is perhaps the stupidest article I’ve read this month. The best corrective to the flawed nostrums about the true nature of the Republican Party is to be found by watching any of the dozen of the debates among the Republican candidates. Almost without exception, their number one priority is to side with Israel to the exclusion of all other foreign affairs. And they have been vocal in their intentions to start war with Iran if possible. They propose doubling down on Bush’s disastrous economic policies and deficits for as long as the eye can see, which needs must cause a drastic retrenchment of any US activities in the Pacific theater. Put very simply–and entirely from an Indian perspective–if you were to side with Republicans, you would lose medium-term certainty of an American alliance (surely you remember that China holds much US debt and may not continue to bankroll its own entrapment) and you would probably also lose attention in the short-term, since they are much worse at prosecuting the wars to your west THAT THEY STARTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. If all the treasure rests between Israel and Iran, you’re only lucky that Obama is ending the Iraq war now so that maybe there can be some oxygen and political capital to tend to the Indian-American alliance.

    Just remember: the mountainous debt problem that the US finds itself in was incurred because of Republican policies. That, and the expensive and distracting wars that the Republican war machine started in Southwest Asia has weakened America’s financial (and thus, military and diplomatic) position, exposed it to weakness via China, and distracted America from more determinedly cultivating relationships with partners in South and Southeast Asia. Note that the spiralling debt under Bush was enabled by China and the contours of that relationship allowed China to keep their currency low and embark upon a decade of economic growth by exporting to America. Thus, to the extent that Obama is able to reverse all of Bush’s messes, India and America may very well be brought into closer harmony. (You will remember that without a war in Afghanistan the Pakistan-American partnership would not have gotten so much play over the last decade, especially as India was liberalizing and could have served as a more preferable economic trading partner to China.)

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  • Marc Levy

    Why would you “love” Obama? He’s owned by the same private central banks he decries in his two-faced bs speeches. He’s taken more rights from Americans than Bush ever did with indefinite detention. He’s caught red-handed running guns that were used to kill police officers, and who knows who else, to Mexican drug lords; then has the nerve to use it as pretext to take more rights away from Americans. If you can’t see by now that Obama is not the swell guy he poses as for the fools, you’re a fool. He needs to go, and Ron Paul is the only choice that isn’t cosmetic and insignificant. The ONLY choice.

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    Tsarkar Reply:

    Oh man..you really are creating a spin on Obama the way some guys did on Clinton. Have you seen Ron Paul’s economic plan? If you have, you still want to vote for him?

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  • Lejardin

    Utterly moronic!

    You write:
    “Bush had, indeed, done all of the following:
    * Attacked two sovereign nations, Iraq and Afghanistan, without sufficient cause;”

    Really?!? Afghanistan wasn’t sufficient cause? You’re almost alone on that one, junior. And, if your #2 point is correct, then I guess the presence of WMD would have qualified as sufficient cause for Iraq as well… leading to my 2nd point:

    “* Lied to the world (whether intentionally or as a result of incorrect inputs from the CIA, we will never know) about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq;”

    Dumb-***! If it wasn’t “intentional” then it wasn’t a “lie”! Idiot!

    “* Committed/commissioned acts, which his critics said, brazenly violated international law;”

    You have got to be kidding me. No comment… well, OK, here’s a comment… he should get several medals for that alone. International law is a joke.

    “* Waged wars that led, willy nilly, to the deaths of thousands of civilians;”

    As opposed to wars that left all the citizens alive?? Um, you mean like World War II? Franco-Prussian? Which war was that, exactly?

    “* Arrested, jailed and tortured thousands of innocent men and women in illegal prisons without access to due process of law;”

    Who says they were innocent? Who says thousands were tortured? Only Amnesty International.

    “* Pursued neo-liberal economic policies that caused, or at least contributed to, the global financial crisis.”

    “Neo-liberal economic policies”???? Monkey-man, the financial crisis was brought about by banks giving credit to bad risks (i.e., mortgages to poor black people) because the government forced them to!

    In terms of loving Obama… WHAT’S WRONG WITH YOU, BOY?!?

    NEVER love a coward! He may say ALL the right things on Monday, but when the wind shifts on Tuesday, he’ll be trading spit with your worst enemy. Confused? Here’s an example — the greatest — of a NON-coward: Winston Churchill, who would never abandon or compromise on a principal. Obama? Changes his tune at every stump speech… whatever he had to say. But has he ever sacrificed a single thing for anyone in the world in his whole useless life? Did he ever lead, even a small company, a football team, an army squad? No, no, no, and no. A “community organizer”. In Chief!

    You have got to have been a complete sucker to ever believe in the false bill of goods known as The Obamanation. I truly hope you’ve learned SOMETHING!

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  • guest3

    It would appear that along with the author everyone else too believes that India is a giant in size only.Otherwise it is no different from all the other weaker and smaller nations who need to follow and be allied to ‘a power’ to safeguard and promote their respective interests total well-being and persona.In that grouping of followers they expect India will be highly stationed in the pecking order. Implied acceptance in this fatalistic thinking is that after the British who ruled directly and controlled India’s internal and external affairs the new India still needs a new power to give it leadership externally plus protection while internally it manages it’s affairs. Of course a price or prices has to be paid for this arrangement and the ‘power’ it allies with will extract as per it’s needs. The British when they ruled directly took all that they wanted including priceless jewels and Indian pride as well. Fortunately for all of India the GOI does not think the way the writer and some of the commentators seem to have fallen into.The GOI leadership believes in India’s greatness and it ’s future as a world leader in it’s own right that can set it’s own goals and direction. The writer sounds naive at times and contradictory at other times. On one hand he says ‘India cant get there without american support’ Get where? Earlier to that he says’If countries of the region accept India as it’s leader,the world will follow’. Does he mean the rest of the world outside the region controlled by the Americans ,the Europeans and the Russians. how would that happen if (as he wants or is promoting) that India be a follower and ally of the Americans who also dominate NATO. It is indeed confusing and lacking constancy.More bewildering is his pride in India having been or having played the role of “jewel in the British crown’..

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  • SuperMJ

    If I were the author of this piece, I wouldn’t quit my day job just yet. Does he really believe that a significant difference exists between the two parties on foreign policy? Even if there was such a divide, does it extend to policies towards India? Finally, have you seen the Republican presidential nominee line-up? They are just as devoid of logic and reasoning as this article.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DLQATMMACSKP7ZAHYWR7BDSHMI Bharat

    On the balance of things, President Obama is likely to win the next Presidential term. This article has too many suppositions, assumptions, and presumptions. Even factually, everything may not be correct!

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  • Nikhil

    Arnab,

    You have to learn to skin your own catch. India needs to get off depending on someone else. Dependency eventually leads to weakness.

    India’s main problem today is political. It is not a united country. It does not move at the speed that it needs to. It does not take its own defense seriously (e.g. its airforce and navy are basically not even equipped to its basic needs). In fact it seems to be backtracking its way to its old “Hindu” rate of growth. Until it fixes these, it will not be a player anywhere.

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  • R.Kannan

    Arnab Mitra is assuming too many issues. India – US relations reached their nadir during Nixon (Republican) presidency. George Bush inherited good relations from Clinton (Democrat). The assumption that Bush always supported India has also been laid to rest with the amount of military aid that was given to Pakistan despite evidence of same having been diverted to sponsor terror attacks against India. The real issue is not US position – Obama has also expressesd the hope that India gets ready to take on China & promised support for the same – but of Indian political leadership. Indian leadership has always been timid and this reflects in current lack of strategic intent in the government. Unfortunately, the entire political spectrum , including the Communists,BJP & all other parties, share almost the same thinking in foreign policy matters. The problem is not economic or military strength – India could easily sign a pact with US to counter a China specific aggresion – but unwillingness to take a stand & the resultant leadership role. India’s unwillingness to counter Pakistan’s terrorism by reasonable strong arm tactics – as opposed to its perinial pleadings to the International community top pass meaningless resolutions – is the reason why thousands of Indians have died in terrorist attacks every year for the last several decades. When India , at long last, found a Home Minister who took his job seriously, we find all politicians baying for his resignation. PC has easily been India’s most effective Home Minister, in the last 3 decades, and we see attempts being made to make CRPF & other para military organisations more responsive to internal security challenges. Yet , instead of allowing him to do the job, political parties are more concerned about how to dislodge him. China will be happier with this than with who becomes the US president.

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  • Anonymous

    India should never go on muslim line India should support isreal , then to support terrorist muslim nations

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  • Abu Ahmed

    I am definitely interested as a Muslim in having good relations with the west Asian countries as Indian Muslims have to go on pilgrimage to Makkah & Madina! That does not mean that we have to be enemies with Israel, not at all. Israel is a foreign policy arm of the USA – when it goes to war, it is akin to the USA being at war with Israel’s imagined enemies. Iraq or Iran were never and will never be any threat to the US – but it destroyd Iraq and is now at the verge of launching a war against Iran – all in the name of defending Israel! Whereas the easiest route for Israel to keep peace in the neighbourhood is by accepting the Palestineans rights and allowing them to have a state of their own. However, the whole point of creating Israel in the middle east is altogetherly different, with which we have nothing to do. The Arabs and Muslims have lived in peace with the jews since the advent of Islam all over the middle east, whether in Yemen, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, algeria, Morrocco, Turkey… u name the Muslim country and there you would find Jewish people. Whereas Jews were persecuted all over Europe throughout history and were finally kicked out and sent to a newly-created state of Israel as good riddance. It is the extremist Zionists who in their quest for power, are creating mischief and trouble in that part of the world. Arabs and Muslims have no fear of neither the Zionists nor the RSS, we can easily take care of any challenge – the need is to balance things in India’s favour and that requires having best of relations with West Asian countries without licking the zionists’ boots.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A34THPGSJZOZVPEDR3O2JYV7VM edward poe

    Please give the whole neo con agenda the proper salute that it merits. Flush the toilet and go on with your day

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