World War Redux



I confess, I am a World War II buff. I like history, but nothing quite tempts me as much as a tale of the triumph and tragedy of the Great War.

Which is why I felt just a little pleased when so much bitterness suddenly welled up during the events to mark the 70th anniversary of the start of the war. (Purists will argue that the Mukden incident was the starting point — but let’s admit it, the Sino-Japanese conflict always seemed to be a separate struggle that only later converged with the Real Thing.)

The Russians complained the Western Allies still don’t give them credit for pretty much fighting Germany alone in the period between the fall of France and the Reverse Norman Conquest. The Germans apologized to everyone and then spoilt it by saying how bad Poland and Czechoslovakia for tossing out their German minorities after the war. The Poles pretty much abused everyone — but didn’t, unless I missed a whispered footnote somewhere, say anything about their own anti-semitism.

It almost felt like the good old days when politics was war by other means and Geneva Conventions and human rights commissions existed only in the crystal balls of Gypsies.

But that is exactly the reason why there was such an anachronistic ring about the whole fingerpointing exercise at the commemoration event. What the European powers did at the start of World War II was the kind of hard-nosed dirtiness that 19th and 20th century nations did all the time. And it was treated as perfectly normal in those days.

Germany and the Soviet Union having a secret treaty to carve up Poland was no big deal at the time. Secret treaty clauses abounded and it was one reason that today the world insists that all treaties be deposited with the United Nations.

The expulsion of the German minorities was almost humane by the standards of the time — a century earlier and they would probably have been sold into slavery. Many Poles may have hated Germans invading but they cheered the Nazis when they began herding Jews and Gypsies into death camps. Seeing such minorities as aliens deserving of maltreatment rather than fellow citizens  was also a pre-modern (more accurately pre-Enlightenment) sentiment.

Which is why it is so easy for everyone to find fault with everyone else today when it comes to World War II. It is more than just about the fact nations are not angels. It is that the international standards which nations are measured against these days are so radically different from what they were 70 years ago that it is pointless to look for angels.

That perhaps is what World War II should be remembered for the most: it so traumatized Europe and the world that it moved humanity to a different plane. Well, most of humanity and most of the time.

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  • http://incorrectpolitically.wordpress.com/ Akhilesh

    Pramit,
    “That perhaps is what World War II should be remembered for the most: it so traumatized Europe and the world that it moved humanity to a different plane. Well, most of humanity and most of the time.”

    Wonder if you have any thoughts on whether it will take a world war to sort out Asia in this century, just as it happened in Europe in the previous.

    Indeed it took two world wars in Europe, as the first world war did not produce decisive victors. Part of the reason for that, of course, is that Europe in the second decade of 20th century had many states with matching military power and thus no decisive result could be achieve. Also, Russia was in the throes of its own revolution and thus not that active a participant.

    By WW II however, Russia was stable and a very decisive player. And then there was the grand arrival of US on the world scene.

    So, will it take WW – III to sort out Israel – Middle issues, Iran and its ambitions, Indo-Pak theatre and of course China and its place in the sun !

    Regards,

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    pramit Reply:

    Here’s a somewhat belated response.
    There are those who have argued Asian geopolitics today has a remarkable resemblance to pre-World War I Europe. Niall Ferguson for one, though I can’t find the link to his article on that point. If I remember it it crudely said China is sort of like Germany, India like Britain and Japan the Asian version of France.
    The reason I don’t think Asia will have a continent-wide war, though it will have great power rivarly by other means, is that 1) most of the big Asian nations have nukes or nuke capability, 2) their political legitimacy is closely interlinked to economic growth — and wars on this scale are terrible for the economy, 3) they are simply too big to conquer and 4) they can learn from the mistakes of Europe.

    Pramit

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  • Atul

    Well, there is a financial skirmish of sorts already on.

    No prizes for guessing what China’s stake in the only remaining superpower is.

    Military wars are unlikely, but commercial wars are almost a certainity. and it will be an entirely a different kind of dirt.

    Shortage of water, food will spark off some real battles, something like what is portrayed in the movie Mad Max.

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    Sandeep Reply:

    Yes, military wars seem implausible. One reason can be the internal turmoil the warring nations face for firing out the taxpayer’s money in cannons. Civilians can now read between the lines, and moreover don’t want their counterparts to suffer because of some belligerent factions. But yeah, there’s always some room for diplomatic warfare in the form of “reforming a nation.”

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  • http://SEARCHALLSEARCH-ENGINESWITHMYNAME RAMAN LAL RANIGA

    when i read SCRIPTURAL TEXT CHRISTIAN WORLD AND HEBREWS I COME ACROSS IN GENESIS CHAPTER 1.26 THEN GOD SAID, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, let them rule over the fish of the seas and birds of the air, over the livestock, over all earth, and over all the creatures that along the ground.”
    27 SO GOD CREATE MAN IN HIS OWN IMAGE, BOTH MALE AND FEMALE
    29 THE FOOD FOR MALE AND FEMALE IS VEGETARIAN
    NOW THE TOTAL ANALYSIS OF WARS
    WE KNOW GOD
    READ PSALM 50.9
    50.11 DO I EAT THE FLESH OF BULLS OR DRINK BLOODS OF GOATS?
    YES THE FOOD BECOME THE PART OF GREY MATTER OF HUMAN
    SO YOU ARE WHAT YO EAT SO THE BEHAVIORS ARE AS PER FOOD AND DRINK
    SO THEN THERE IS NO SATISFACTION IN THE SOUL
    HUMAN HAVE BECOME THE DESTROYER OF CREATIONS
    THAT IS WHY SO MANY WARS
    SEE THE WEAPONS IN STOCK PILES
    MEDITATE YOUR SOUL TO OUR MAKER WHO IS ONE FOR ALL LIVING
    THE GREATEST PRAAN JYOTI BHAGWAAN AND BE BORN AGAIN
    TAKE HOLY DIP IN RIVER GANGAJI!
    BHAGAVAD GITA CHAPTER 13.18 BHAGWAAN IS OUR JYOTI WITHIN THE HEART NOW.
    YES IN MEDITATION DHYAAN FOR THE JYOTI IN THE HUMMING HEART IS BHAGWAAN WITH YOUR SOUL ATMA YOU ARE NOW IN THE BRAIN

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