The book I never want to read

Why is it so unpalatable for the national editors to accept that RSS had supported the Anna movement? How does a movement which gained massive support across the nation becomes tainted if it had RSS members supporting it? Are they too corrupt to morally back such a movement?

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Vinodji

This vow of silence must be a tactical move by Anna Hazare, as we have seen that Arvind Kejriwal and Co. have been putting words in his mouth, much to his discomfort and embarrassment on issues which he may have different views or hasn’t given any thought to or against his grain of thinking. In most of the cases, he had to retract his statements and pronouncements or issue clarifications or say he was misquoted, etc. etc.

With the marginalization of various team members -Swami Agnivesh, Justice Santosh Hegde and now Prashant Bhushan and perhaps Bhushan Sr too, it has become clear that it is a one-man-show : Arivind Kejriwal – his way and no other. If one falls foul of him and out one goes.

Perhaps, Anna Hazare has also become wary of him. His “maun vrat” and dispatching his lieutenants to meet Rahul Gandhi on the 18th October are indications to the effect. Perhaps, he has also realized that to get things done one has to work with the system and not confront it.

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@Mr Sharma,
You take umbarge ( display of sensitivity or displeasure ) on being labelled a unethical, dishonest congress propogandist.
But here is a sample of adjectives you have felt free to use against others in just this one blog.

Anna Hazare : self-professed Gandhian
Goons who attacked Bhushan : Violent right-wing reaction
Swami Agnivesh : unfairly branded a Congress Trojan Horse ( thanks for the humour)
Anna Hazare : a bit of a militarist, a la the RSS

I am sure I missed some.

Do you get the point ?

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Anna should make his views clear about Channu Sharmila, Human rights in
Kashmir, Salwa Judam and he should have opinion on Sanjiv Bhatt arrest and
release on bail . I was foolish to think that he was fighting against the corruption in India. Why not than journalists also
ask him about our foreign policy, defence policy, economics of India, trend
of stock market etc. As Aashihs has said in previous article that Anna is only
fighting against corruption and filed is open for others to take crusade against
other issues and leave Anna team to fight this battle.

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Anna is publicity monger .From very beginning he behaved hypocritically His only qualification is he can sustained hunger ten to twenty day. On this capital he is giving nuisance to Government.He always require some issues from any intelligent man he then ready to start a fast.He did not know the bit of Janlokpal bill to give nuisance he started fast .Today he heard Rahul Gnadhi is interested his work urgently he send three assistants to Delhi to meet him, just now news came Rahul never invited them. . From this story anyone can judge how he is publicity monger.

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This article is the first clear indication that the anti-Anna camp is suddenly seeing light at the long, dark tunnel. This camp has also come to believe that by driving a few more nails, Anna’s coffin can be sealed and mummified.

The trojan horse having failed miserably and got shamlessly exposed as a congress plant, now says Anna is supporting brahmanwaad, he is autocratic and is taking support from the RSS. Now Kejriwal seems to be the target. If he is dislodged, it is common sense that Anna’s team will suffer an innings defeat.

Vinod Sharma has admirably risen to the occasion and call of duty.

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Vinodji,
You said on Nidhi Razdan’s show Left, Righ & Centre that the only way Team Anna’s intervention in the Hissar bye-election would be considered meaningful if the Congress candidate lost his deposit. Now that this has happened, what do you have to say?

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Hisar, Khadakvasla, Daraundha and Banswada are tight slap on face of Congress and its corrupt supporter.
Karnataka BJP should take lesson from this else face same kind of slap.

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Hisar By-Poll: Bishnoi Wins, Cong Forfeits Deposit

So what ? No one can put stop to the ‘bay-sharmi’ and ‘convoluted-lies’ that Congress propogandists are capable of.

The scams have yielded enough funds for all Congress candidates ‘jamanat-japt’ for 100 years and more.

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Rajeev

A) “The only way to get rid of all the malaise is by detoxifying this country of Congressism and then not allow other toxicants RSS or communists to pollute the national psyche”.

There cannot be a vacuum – who and what is supposed to replace this Congressism?

.B) “You take any walk of life, you will find Congressis dominating it. The IAS/IPS cadres, govt. employees are either congressis or have congressi upbringing. All these NGO wallahs are pro-congress gangs who pretend to be voice of people. The NHRC itself is full of congressis.”

All cannot be foolish. There must be some merit in what this Congress Party stands for.

Also was this culture forced down their throats or was it personal choices?

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One of your better articles Vinodji. BUT I THOUGHT A GROUP OF CRUSADERS HAVING INDEPENDENT OPINIONS= about Kashmir, Salwa jadum etc =was a healthy sign of ddemocracy.
Did Gandhi, Nehru, Bose, Ambedkar, Sardar Patel all agree on everything ? Kejriwal, Bhushan, Anna, Kiran, , Hegde, they all bring different strengths to the table. Main koi galat boliya??
More important the maun vrat of our star bloggers like Mishraji, Gopi, Shoeb, Vinay is perplexing. Dr mishra, sir hope you did not mind my joke on u and ashish eating humble pie hehe. Pl come back sirji, u really know how to ignite debate

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MR .SHARMA,AT YOUR AGE ,I FIND YOU PARROTING ,WHO SAID WHAT AND MAKING A STORY.
IF YOU CONSIDER SUCH QUOTES AS JOURNALISM ,I FIND YOUR WRITING DISGUSTING.
INDIA WAS RULED BY TURKS ,MUGHALS ETC BY SWORD.
BRITISHERS RULED US THRU MENTAL SLAVES LOOKING FOR BENEFITS FROM MASTERS.
I WILL LOVE TO SEE AN ARTICLE WITH INDEPENDENT VIEWS WHICH WILL MAKE YOUR CONSCIENCE PROUD OR YOU ARE HAPPY WITH YOURSELF.

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@ everyone.
Got high regards for Congress. Equally, got high regards for RSS. where I have my contempt is extreme position of both right and so called secular forces. My heighest regards are for nationalists, who say, India and Indian interests are supreme. Khujli to bahut ho rahi hai, par roti ka bhi sawal hai. I am( alse) not in higher category, who can sacrifice everything. ( Blame my woti, sorry to say this and me partially.)

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~~As per Congressis– ANNA WOULD BE GOOD IF HE SAYS RAHUL MAI -BAP ~~
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The general thrust of all COngressi chamchas is same.

If Anna saya “Rahul is good , handsome, genius of Nehru and Einstein combined” Anna would be acceptable.

If Anna says, “Digvijay is God, Sonia is MOther India” Anna would be loved.

Otherwise Vindoji and his brigade will use all means to tar anybody who wants to remove corruption and the corrupt…

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Sufi muslims are the answers to political Islamists who want to grab power from back door. These sufi muslims are perfect ally for truly secular hindus. It is time hindus marginalize hindutva nuts and muslims marginalize Deobandi/Wahabi nuts.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Sufi-clerics-issue-call-to-reject-hardline-Wahabis/articleshow/10394315.cms

Sufi clerics issue call to reject hardline Wahabis

NEW DELHI: A prominent organization of Sunni clerics has urged Muslims to reject hardline Wahabi Islam, which it said was giving the community a bad name, and called for limiting the influence of Saudi Arabia, which it blamed for meddling in the affairs of Indian Muslims by pumping in petro-dollars.

At a mahapanchayat in Moradabad, UP, the All India Ulama and Mashaikh Board (AIUMB), which claims the support of a majority of Indian Muslims, rooted for Sufi traditions of Islam propagating tolerance and harmony.

“About 100 years ago, Sunni Muslims in India had rejected the Wahabis. After Independence, however, the Wahabis expanded their influence through political backing. While we remained away from government and politics, Wahabis gained control over institutions dealing with minority affairs, including the wakf board and the Muslim Personal Law Board,” said AIUMB general secretary Syed Mohammed Ashraf Kachochavi at Sunday’s meet.

AIUMB spokesperson Syed Babar Ashraf said 80% of Indian Muslims followed the Sunni Sufi tradition while Wahabis wielded control over just 13-14% of the community. “But a large section of the Urdu press has boycotted us. They are controlled by hardliners,” Ashraf said.

He said Wahabi-inspired outfits like Deoband, Jamiat Ulama-e-Hind and Ahl-e-Hadees were importing a “foreign ideology” into India. “They are funded by petro-dollars and aim to grab political power,” Ashraf said.

AIUMB urged the Centre to set up a central madrasa board, including a member of each Sufi ’silsila’ (order) in India and one from Shias or Bohras. The funding of madrasas should be audited to check the influx of Saudi petro-dollars, it said.

AIUMB leaders claimed Wahabi-inspired outfits were feeding on the frustration of Muslims and indoctrinating them in radical Islam. “Muslims should be careful about such anti-national activities in the name of religion. If they find any extremist exhorting them to terrorism, they should immediately hand over the person to police,” said Kachochavi.

Unlike the Sufis, Wahabis are against praying at dargahs (shrines) and graves and many of the cultural practices embedded in South Asian Islamic traditions. “Millions of Muslims visit the Prophet’s shrine at Madina every year. Muslims are following the Prophet when they pray at dargahs. Why should it be un-Islamic?” asked Hazrat Shahid Mian Chishti, dargah-in-charge of Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti’s dargah at Ajmer.

AIUMB also released a memorandum urging the external affairs ministry to ask the Saudi Arabian government to stop “destroying historical places and preserve sites associated with the Prophet, his family and his Sahabas (companions)”.

Arshad Alam, assistant professor, Jamia Millia Islamia University said, “This movement is articulating the ethnic roots of Islam in India. It’s not just about a religious identity but placing this identity in the national context.”

Alam, author of the book, ‘Inside a Madarsa’, said Deobandis aspire to an Arabian model of Islam which obliterates the ethnic identity of Indian Muslims.

Islamic scholar Maulana Wahiduddin Khan, however, didn’t accept the presence of Wahabi-inspired hardliners in India. “At best you can call them mild fundamentalists. Muslims can’t afford to be radical in India. About 95% of Indian Muslims had Hindu ancestors. So Hindu culture dominates India, the basis of which is tolerance. For extremism to flourish, you need a Muslim-majority country like Pakistan,” he said.

The AIUMB plans to hold mahapanchayats and Sunni conferences to spread their message every six months. They have held such programmes at Bhagalpur, Bihar, and West Bengal.

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Anna has said that if Congress (Sonia) passes Jan Lokpal Bill then he will prostate in front of Sonia and Rahul and work for them. Not even one journalist found it objectionable. Same journos went beserk when Mad congressmen were associating Anna with RSS.
Why is pro-congress stand appreciated but pro-BJP not? Is this not a proof that media is Congressi in its culture and ideology?

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Has Sanjiv Bhatt started imagining that he is no more in the service but an important Congress leader of Gujarat. Does he not know that bail is constuctive custody of the Court .Are there none amongst his friends in the IPS Asscn of Gujarat to tell him that his statement that “Modi is a common criminal” is an invitation to strict disciplinary action. Or that now that he enjoys the “concern” of the Government of India and its Home Minister , so he shall enjoy immunity from the Service Rules and the Police Manual. Ofcourse the Congress Party shall not tell him so because it is its own gameplan and aspires to make him its mascot in Gujarat, the Vaghelas and the Modhvadias and the veterans all reduced to nobodys.
What if an Officer of the CPMFs or an official of the Home Ministry was to say publically that the Union Home Minister is corrupt and he made money in the 2 G scam? Shall not such a officer face the strictest diciplinary action?
….Those who find Anna’s Maun eloquent should also ponder about the Maun of the official backers and protectors of Sanjiv Bhatt.

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Wah Sardarji Waw maan gaye aapko

http://gulfnews.com/news/world/india/100-year-old-marathoner-finishes-toronto-race-1.897279

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Your comment is in extremely bad taste. I have never approved of his methods and tactics You can debate his methods and tactics, demolish his statements, etc., but there is no need to get personal. Is 7th class pass truck driver not a human being? He has as much right as you to voice his opinion and take any action – as long as he does not break any law of the land and does not harm others.

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Sandeep,

Vinodji might well say that it is not their job to reform society. The fact is that many senior editors were busy making and unmaking ministries, ministers and other kind of deals with the likes of Nira Radia. Some editors were busy discrediting team Anna with fake CDs.

When nothing worked with the millions who supported Anna, now this politico-journo combine is busy splitting the anti-corruption movement.

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==============================================================~~~ ANNA BECOMES INDIAN OF THE YEAR— On NDTV ~~~~~~
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Life is funny. On one side NDTV and Hindustan Times are doing there best to derail the Anna movement.

On the other, the NDTV poll has chosen Anna as the Indian of the year….

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You should know Akbar the great and Mohammad too were illiterate. The education has got nothing to do with personal conduct.

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A) My understanding of Anna’s team
I have been thinking about Anna’s movement and his team and their constant overuse of tongue. I feel Anna’s team has very diverse elements who will part ways as soon as Jan Lokpal is done. Here is the composition of Anna’s team-
1. Anna – Gandhian Showman and a Congressi. He has said that he will WORK FOR CONGRESS if they give him Jan Lokpal. Why should ‘HE WORK FOR CONGRESS’? No one has objected to this statement. His use of Bharat Mata first and then Mahatma Gandhi’s pictures show that he is ideologically confused but at heart he believes in Congressism.

2. Arvind Kejriwal – Very committed to Jan Lokpal and is not averse to working with Right. This is the reason he is perhaps the most hated member of the team.

3. Kiran Bedi – Over-excited well-intentioned but motor mouth. She seems to be anti-congress (may be because of her experience) and kind of sympathetic to BJP.

4. Justice Hegde – He is basically an inactive member who reacts more with media than within his own team. He too seems to be sympathetic to Congress.

5. Prashant Bhushan – He is committed to jan lokpal but he has other agendas too which are not acceptable to any of his team members. He is Arundhati’s man in team who will finally use this platform to make noises for Maoists and Islamic terrorists (especially from Kashmir). Basically a radical leftist.

6. Shanti Bhushan – Anti-Congress for sure..nothing more than that.

7. Swami Agnivesh (ex-member) – This guy was the Congress’s trojan horse in Anna’s team. A total disgrace. Good riddance.

B) How this movement is going to end?
Looking at latest utterances of Anna, it looks like Congress is working with Anna’s thru back channels (ex. Thomas visit to Ralegaon Siddhi and subsequent Rahul meeting drama). The deal may be that Congress will get a compromise Jan Lokpal bill passed in next winter session but will like Anna to give all the CREDIT to Prince Rahul so that they can encash it in 2012 UP elections. Once congress does well in UP election because of new feather in its hat (Jan Lokpal), it will use same card in other elections. Anna may work fulltime to promote Congress..and when this is happening Kejriwal will fall wayside, sulking, Kiran Bedi too will part ways and may be seen in the company of Advani. Prashant will go back to his favorite passtime of abusing India on Kashmir and Maoist insurgency. Justice Hegde might stick with Anna, indirectly working for Congress. Swami Agnivesh may be rewarded with some Padam-Bhushan by congress for his services.
Vinod Sharma will write praises for Anna and will express gratitude for his work towards promoting Congress. NDTV will again bestow Indian of the year award to Anna. Anna will be bought by Congress and media but not by money but showering glory on him.

As for BJP, it will go around showing how it was behind Anna’s movement..It will be too late..They will return to opposition in 2014. During this time some of hindu right wing members will be convicted of terrorism thus putting a permanent terror mark on RSS.

The biggest news will be that DIggi will enter 2014 cabinet as Home Minister.

India deserves this…

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Vinod Sharma,
I saw you on some TV channel claiming that Congress would anyway lose in Hissar
If congress looses deposit, then it would mean Anna factor
That has happened now. What do u say now?

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@ Dr Shah Alam

I am replying to your posting on this blog as I was not sure you would revisit the earlier one.

The gist of my arguement still remains that any anti corruption movement which manages to convince the people and change the situation is vyavastha parivartan. In this case you may have personal differences with the philosophy of Anna and his team. But you have to acknowledge that there is real hope for some change on the issue fo corruption.

Let me tell you many people in real life are not angels and pure as you imagine them to be. We really have to judge them by the cause they espouse. Shabana Azmi for example was in my eyes gorgeous, intelligent and a lady who spoke for the poor of the country.

The same Shabana in an interview let it be known that she loves her Mercedes ( “prized possesion” ) and diamond jewellary and her trips to the US. Now should I let this actual reality of Shabana, liking the material aspects of life, color my view of her as a spokeswoman for the underprievelaged? No Sir, I will not. Simply becasue when she stood up against the Madrassa walas and Raj Thakerey, she was voicing a cause which was dear to all of us.

Similarly with the Anna team, you could find fault with their personal philosophies. I for example would rebel against any overtly moral regime. But I would never deny the fact that team Anna could well herald in a true revolution of honesty.

As for comparisons with the Arab spring, I think the comparison is misplaced. Out there the basic fight is for democracy and freedom which we in India already have. A lot of the Arab spring occurs because the US backs it covertly. In egypt it is now resulting in Islamic fundamantalism which has ignited the flames of Muslim – Christian violence….

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~~~~~~~~~ WHY RAHUL should NOT NOT NOT NOT be the PM ~~~~~~~~~
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After I completed my engineering from a fairly decent college and joined a company which was not too indecent, I was made a trainee and then given a job six rungs below the MD.

What would have happened had I become the MD??

-~~~ A DISASTER ~~~ !!

So if Rahul becomes the PM, without doing any work in his lifetime— we are heading for an apocalypse. He would rely on evil people like Digvinash who would use the situation to cause a disaster. For example in case Pakistan were to launch another 26/11 type fo an attack, Digvinash would immediattely advise Rahul to blame this on the RSS to win votes.

So here is what I tell all the guys who are ok with Rahul as the PM.

@ Vinod Sharma

Sir you earned your spurs with the malayalam manorma, then slogged out in inhospitable places like Pakistan, where the ISI trailed you, before you become the political editor of the HT. Honestly speaking were you qualified to be this post the day you became a journo, 25 years back???

@ Dr Shah Alam

Sir, what would happen if an outsider with no experience became the director of AIIMS?

@ manohar

How would you react in case somebody close to you is advised surgery by a doctor who is a duffer, but his only qualification is that his grandparents and father too was a doctor?/

I would love to have these reactions…

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Gopi

Lest you missed this

Rajinder Singh – the Waterman

http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl1817/18170810.htm

Water security which we have discussed in earlier blogs.

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Manohar;
I hold you in some esteem as you represent alternative( What is this thing?, different for different persons) view quite effectively. But, I am surprised with your vehemence against Shenoy, this reminds me, the annoyance shown by Vinod against him. Like Vinod, you were OK with Ravi and his fellow travellers and at times you will say, ignore them but again with Shenoy, you do not hide your anger/ annoyance. Why? Is he not entitled to have an alternative view? Is he more satirical than allowed? NO, any body and everybody, including you, are entitled to wield their pen, as one wishes. The only thing which , I hope, puts off most of the bloggers is foul language.

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Mayawati had said,

“Tilak Taraju aur Talwar
maro inko joote char

Now Digvinash Singh is saying:

Anna, Bedi, Prashanth aur Kejriwal
yeh sab hain hamare liye yek bawaal
Inke liye hazaar hain hamare sawaal
maro inko joothon se kewal

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Is Arvind Kejriwal a Gandhian ? …. Far from it .Rather.. if an Eminent Editor is to be believed he could be a BJP Proxy …But is he faking to be a Gandhian …some would certainly say so ..after all why should he let go and make an appeal to the Police to free his assailant ..who acknowledges that he was Congress Seva Dal volunteer..
On another day we saw on TV, a slipper being thrown at the great Gandhian Janardan Dwivedi of the sole Gandhian Party …the Congress . Another true Gandhian , a gentleman by the name of Digvijay Singh rushed into that room and threw the assailant down ,kicked him ..punched him and thrashed that person black and blue along with his Gandhian “Seva Dal” volunteers…
But let us not be distracted by such trivia. There is a larger task at hand ..Hissar cannot be allowed to be repeated The next one is to be taught a lesson. Now who would that be ..touching the Lady may be risky ..in any case IT notices may succeed . Others .. shall be seen.. More innovative Gandhian ways have to be found
After all the battle for UP has truly begun.

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Amazing India.

Only Sonia Gandhi can bring strong Lokpal: Arvind Kejriwal

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/Only-Sonia-Gandhi-can-bring-strong-Lokpal-Arvind-Kejriwal/articleshow/10409153.cms

Excerpt

“The answer is that only Congress president Sonia Gandhi can do so. Her direction to the Congress-led UPA government can ensure a strong Jan Lokpal, which can put all corrupt politicians behind bars be it those belonging to BSP, SP, BJP or Congress,” he said at Jhulelal Park.

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One of the reason given by the people who are opposing Anna that his fight
against corruption is for people of middle class and not for loweer class. I have not understood
on what basis it is being said . Team Anna have themselves claimed that their Jan Lokpal will not eradicate the corruption completely but it will bring down
by 40-50 pct. I know of few schemes of our governemnt which are suppose to benifit poor people like NREGA, BPL cards, cheap government hospitals, waiver of loans for the farmers etc.
But everbody knows that only 15-20% of money spent on such schemes actually
reach the deserving people. — It was Rajiv Gandhi who had said this — Dont you all think that if the corruption in all departments of government accross the country comes down then these people will also benifit.
I just dont understand how giving opinion on Kashmir, Modi and other problems in India will help poor people in our country.
. IMO lower corruption and developement will ulitamately
help everyone .

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BALWINDER JEE,though i knew that amitabh is rascal hype by media,but i never knew this,good news,अमिताभ को गुरुवार को ऑस्ट्रेलिया में डॉक्टरेट की मानद उपाधि से सम्मानित किया जाने वाला है। सिख फॉर जस्टिस (एसएफजे) ने यह शिकायत ऑस्ट्रेलिया में राष्ट्रमंडल जन अभियोजन के डायरेक्टर (कॉमनवेल्थ पब्लिक प्रॉसिक्यूशन) क्रिस्टोफर क्रैगी के सामने दर्ज कराई है। इस शिकायत को ऑस्ट्रेलिया के क्रिमिनल कोड एक्ट 1995 के तहत दर्ज किया गया है (जो कहता है कि ऑस्ट्रेलियाई अदालतों के पास मानवता के खिलाफ अपराध के सभी मामलों का क्षेत्राधिकार है, फिर चाहे यह अपराध ऑस्ट्रेलिया में हुआ हो या कहीं और)।

सिख संगठन सिख फॉर जस्टिस ( SFJ ) के लीगल अडवाइजर गुरुपटवंत सिंह पनून के मुताबिक बच्चन पर यह केस 31 अक्टूबर 1984 को दिए गए उनके भड़काऊ बयान को लेकर दर्ज कराया गया है है। पनून के मुताबिक अमिताभ ने तब ‘खून के बदले खून’ और ‘खून के छींटे सिखों के घर तक पहुंचने चाहिए’ जैसे भड़काऊ बातें कही थीं।

अमिताभ फिलहाल सिडनी में ‘द ग्रेट गैट्सबाय’ की शूटिंग में व्यस्त हैं। इसमें अमिताभ के को-स्टार चर्चित फिल्म ‘टाइटैनिक’ के ऐक्टर लियोनार्डो डि कैप्रियो हैं। बॉलिवुड के ‘शहंशाह’ को ब्रिसबेन के क्वींसलैंड यूनिवर्सिटी ऑफ टेक्नॉलजी में गुरूवार को डॉक्टरेट की मानद उपाधि से सम्मानित करेगा।

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Prahlad

Some of the bloggers (see earlier blogs) here have giving very high marks to the Empress of Poes Gardens – vis-a-vis fight against corruption and administrative capabilities, and expect to her play very decisive role at the centre, some even suggesting that she would be an “ideal” Home Minister under equally “ideal” Prime Minister – Narendra Modi.

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I have been loving this debate. Gentlemen Dr shah alam khan and Manohar, pl you do not attack Shenoy personally. I like all 3 of you, disagree with all 3 sometimes but agree WITH SILENT MAJORITY ON BLOG HERE that some target Mr Shenoy unfairly.
Full 100 percent marks go to Vijay for best contributions on Rahul gandhis inexperience and for brilliant analogy that Dr Alams comment that Anna has not spoken about xyz is like Vijay engineer not speaking about Shakespeare.
Dr Alam pl be prepared for strong, not rude , response when you call Anna team clowns. You make terrible diagnosis this time doctor. I await yr reply on ALL my points above

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There is new development on Anna front. There are some activists who are deserting Ann after CONGRESS’S HISAR DEFEAT. This has exposed congressis who were in Anna Camp working from inside from Congress.

Now Anna should do same against BJP so that all the activist sympathetic to BJP are weaned out of this movement.

These two parties are the problem not the solution.

By the way the guy who attacked Kejriwal is a committed Congressman, Chela of Rahul for past 6 years…Jai Ho..

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Doctor saheb, this nihang shoots straight from hip. I think sadly that Indian muslims are UNFAIRLY labelled communalist on occasions. You sirji, a doctor should proceed very carefully when THE SINGLE BIGGEST PEOPLE”S MOVEMENT WHICH HAS ELECTRIFIED PEOPLE FROM THE CHOWKIDAR OF MY FARMHOUSE IN AMRITSAR TO THE MILLIONAIRE PUNJABIS AT MY GURUDWARA HERE IN LONDON, is labelled as a movement of clowns.
….. Immediately even I, who like your posts, wonder how you think like Saba Naqvi and Jawed Naqvi of Dawn who sneer at Anna and are distressed by slogans of vande mataram and bharat mata. Maybe your reasons are different, buy the nations faultlines open up.
Still, Shenoy and that sweet boy Ashish should NOT have called you communal.
You said team clown is idiocity of hope=sir= whatever they may not be, but ANNA, KIRAN, KEJRIWAL, BHUSHAN are DECENT HONEST PEOPLE and I see sunshine of hope of new dawn in them. Sorry you missed the tsunami of change completely.
Is baar mareez ki nabz theek nahi padi dr saab

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@ Dr Shah Alam

I am answering your posting out here as the format of this blog is so damned idiotic that to see a reply one needs to click 20 pages.

a) Your belief that I am putting a label of a Marxist/Maoist on you. I think that is shooting of on a tangent ! You could and I could have sympathy for the cause– my reaction would be that it is a state failure to provide employment and development in deprived regions as well as poor corrupt governance.

I would NOT appreciate them taking to the gun or for that matter the ideology of Maoist massacre they follow.

b) Your belief that I am ignoring the casteism that prevails in India. No, I am not. However my prescription for improvement would be diffferent.

Today a huge chunk of India sees satellite TV. I think the mass media could have been used to damn caste.

I think the only reservation India requires besides that of Scheduled castes in education and jobs is of priests from all strata of society in Hindu temples. Why not?

In many colonies in cities, places are earmarked for religious buildings. The state could have been proactive to ensure that the priests in these would be of all strata.

Today at least 70% of India goes trhru some form of schooling. We could have used the schools, with a chapter on social studies to damn casteism and inculcate a feeling of equality in young minds.

I can give you a a list of at least 50 other ways how caste could have been eradicated.
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Now let me ask you a reverse question. You have still not answered my query on the suitability of Rahul for the PM’s post. That how you would react incase a fresher was appointed as an AIIMS director just because his father was one, years back…

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Well I am not counting mysef our yet…

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Dr.Shah Alam Khan,

you asked me, “Finally Mr Shenoy I write what I support. But I am afraid Sir, in your case I do not see the same honesty. You seem to support the BJP (maybe the RSS) but haven’t ever confessed this on this blog. Is this not moral corruption? I only hope my last analysis is god damn nonsense.”

In a later post, you said I am not replying to your poser.

Being a too infrequent visitor to Vinodji’s blog, you may not be aware, but Vinodji, in order NOT TO LEAVE ANY DOUBT AMONG HIS FOLLOWERS, himself has variously described me as ‘a chaddiwala, Nagpuria, fascist, Hindu fundoo, a darzi tailoring chaddies for Nagpur etc, etc, etc. He was very ably and convincingly supported by the likes of Ravi, Tajender etc and also, understandably Prabhat.

Do you still believe your own words that I haven’t ever “confessed” to anything?. I have “confessed”, a long time back, when Vinodji first asked me “to identify” myself, to being at least some of these epithets.

Usually, one can make out where a writer’s loyalties or allegiances lie. For example, Vinodji has been described by most as a staunch supporter of the congress and consequently a passionate opponent of Anna’s movement against corruption.

In your case too, one can discern what you are, really, and what you are not unreally.
The remark about “Gori Bharat Mata”, despite your convoluted explanation, was, in reality, a Freaudian slip. However, I do not think I have called you communal.

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~~~ WILL THE US ATTACK PAKISTAN ? msn hints so…. ~~~
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MSN news reports that Gen Kayani has strongly warned the US not to attack Pakistan. It further reports that there is a huge build up of troops at the Pak afghan border,

Is the US finally going to slap its errant child… its illegitmate progeny?

My view is that unlike India which could not do anything about 26/11 and the afghan embassy attacks… the US is not going to forget the attack on its embassy by the ISI.

So good fun is going to happen on the western border…

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Yeddyurappa gets AC cell in Bangalore central prison

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Yeddyurappa-gets-AC-cell-in-Bangalore-central-prison/articleshow/10417281.cms

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Yeddyurappa-back-in-jail-gets-AC-cell/H1-Article1-758973.aspx

Waah! This is the first time I have heard that jails have AC cells too. Amazing India.

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Dr Shah Alam Khan, came to your unnamed ofice in AIIMS three times in the first week of August and did not find you there. At any rate, I had sworn to leave this blog, but your words and your predicament- you have been called communalist- drew me back.
Cyber friends, most of my friends at AIIMS speak very highly of Shah- he is upright and a great patriot. He is also that rarity amongst muslims- an agnostic or even an atheist, a la Nadeem Piracha of Dawn newspaper.

All three- he, Anna Hazare and Shenoy are being attacked for being communalist unnecessarily- I am compelled to therefore say-
हर इंसान दिल का बुरा नहीं होता, हर उठा हुआ हाथ दुआ का नहीं होता,
बुझ जाते हैं दिये अक्सर अपनी गलतियों से, हर बार कसूर हवा का नहीं होता

Har Insan dil ka bura nahi hota Har utha hua hath dua ka nahi hota Bujh jate hai diye aksar apni galtiyo se Har bar kasur hawa ka nahi hota .

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Dr. Shah Alam Khan;
I am happy to receive your post addressed to me. Only serious discussion will make this blog worth visiting, otherwise trash is all around us. I am seeing Dr. Renu Saxena in next few weeks and if luck helps me, I may have a chance meeting with you as well. wanted to write a detail post but some emergency came to just now and i have to attend to it. Would love to discuss it further.

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@ balwinder praaha, your dig about inviting Ashish and me to eat humble pie still hurts, haha. Anyway- your words were powerful- ‘ THE SINGLE BIGGEST PEOPLE”S MOVEMENT WHICH HAS ELECTRIFIED PEOPLE FROM THE CHOWKIDAR OF MY FARMHOUSE IN AMRITSAR TO THE MILLIONAIRE PUNJABIS AT MY GURUDWARA HERE IN LONDON’

A bit similar to what I wrote last week- and this is for you Shah Alam-
‘ I saw a KRAANTI in the eyes of millionaire doctors in Corporate hospitals, that I am sad to say is missing from the nay sayers on this blog. They want Kejriwal to be perfect- and in that they have missed the whole BLOODY POINT . Kejriwal is the voice of anguish at the loot of centuries, he is the ankur of a revolution. I care two hoots over his imperfections.

He is rattling the cages which house Amar Singhs, Kanimozhis, Sharad Pawar and Kalmadi- I am happy that someone is doing the dirty task back home which will drag India into the 21 st century of justice and equality. ‘

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Dr Alam, Pnkaj, Manohar, Vijay, Shenoy Praveen etc
In AIIMS when I was a n intern in Urology, there was a disgusting habit that some Conusltants employed. A patient would be admitted and then would rot in bed till they decided to operate- 1 week to 3 months later!!!!!
One day, I decided to rattle the cage. At the morning round I announced, ‘Prof, this patient is celebrating!’
Prof asked why.
I said he is celebrating his 100th preop day in the hospital.
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why do I tell this simple story- when the rot in society is deep then trying to go thru regular channels takes forever. I rattled a minor cage in 1970, Anna and Kejriwal are rattling a much bigger cage in 2011

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Manohar,
Let us look at the hard facts to find if Sonia can compel MPs to vote for Lokpal in next session. Let us look at current Lok Sabha and number of MPs who are sure to toe Sonia’s line.
1. Congress: 206 (no one can dare say NO to Sonia)
2. NCP: 9 (Sharad Pawar knows CBI can go after him)
3. IUML: 2 (Will support Sonia blindly as they see her as bullwork against BJP)
4. MIM: 1 (Same as IUML)
5. BSP: 21 (CBI ka danda)
6. SP: 23 (CBI ka double danda)
7. RJD 4 (Fodder scam and income case – CBI plus Lalu love for ministry)
8. NC: 3 (Farooque Abdulla owes Omar’s CMShip to Rahul)

That makes it 269 MPs who will surely obey Sonia’s command and then Sonia can use her diplomatic skills to get Trinamool Congress (19 MPs) on her side. Small partners like Kerala Congress, VCK too will fall in line.

Then she can buy some MPs from BJP (party of fools and greedy people)…Job done..as she did in 2008.

Only she can bring in Lokpal or block Lokpal

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Manohar,
I never said ‘Lay off Shenoy’. I was just pointing to concerted efforts to shoo him away from this blog by some mercenaries.
By all means they a dig at anyone you like but ganging up with intention not to debate but to discourage debate is not healthy (except may be in case of Fake Ravi and Jehadi Tajender).

By the way where is Congress Bhakt Prabhat…Is he done with his shift at McDonalds?

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Vinodji,

you asked, indirectly, of course, “Has this gentleman called on his hero Yeddy in jail?”

You are a busy editor, much in demand for your pearls of wisdom in the HT blogs, articles and-most importantly- around the TV stations. I sometimes wonder how you spread these pearls of wisdom equally in all the TV studios and keep the congress party happy that they are being defended well.

Therefore, it is easy for you to forget or ignore what I had said when Yeddy first came under the Hegde scanner, and what I have repeated so many times later-that I consider Yeddyurappa a petty thief (the word ‘petty’ is used here in a relative sense), that he has embarrassed the party no end and he should quit. I had also said that he should expect to be jailed for his crimes.

Even then I had gone to the Parappana Agrahar jail to meet my ‘friend’.
But I was disappointed not to find him there.
I was told that he was taken to the court.
I went to the court only to be told that he is in the hospital.
I went to the hospital only to be told that he is in some other hospital.
When I went to that hospital, I was told that he is back in the jail.

I hope, when he is through with these chakkars, he may call me himself.

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Dr Shah Alam Khan

It has been a pleasure reading your posts, for which you have been slammed and called a communalist and related labels too, then conciliatory posts(!) by others. Strange are the ways of this world.

01) Anna Hazare Movement. It surely has been farce as things change day by day, hour by hour. Poor Anna – the clowns as you have rightly called them (and IMO many of them megalomaniacs) made him sit on a tiger and now he is unable to get off. They put words in his mouth, which he did not believe in or was not aware of or hadn’t given thought to or had to issue clarifications or deny them. Credibility be damned. How he runs his village is topic for some other time.

The movement has clearly picked up a wrong issue and the means highly questionable (threats included – I will fast unto death, changing the goal posts midway, etc. etc., akin crying wolf wolf once too often) – trying to find a cure for instead of prevention of the disease. Of course, it was great show for the TV channels to boost their TRPs, more importantly name and fame for the protagonists. As someone in an earlier blog has asked – who wants to see a malnutritioned hungry children and adults (clad in almost nothing) in some godforsaken hamlet in some dusty part of the country – one would rather watch a repeat telecast of 2378th episode of Bigg Boss with the best of Johnnie Walker and succulent kebabs from Karims/Bade Mian/… laid out in front.

We have people highly qualified/educated and professionals in their own right who have hailed this nauTanki/tamaashaa as some kind of “greatest revolution” and mother of all cures for all the ills of the country and turn it into a Shangri La. It is too much of a bother to separate the wheat from the chaff. To many it was/is just a stick to beat some enemy or a demon with. Talk of gullibility.

The fact that the cure (*) the civil society is seeking to impose on this country is worse than the disease is also lost on this section of the populace. The country may end up in spending Rs 10000 or 20000 or whatever crores to have this monster (LokPal) in our midst to catch corruption worth Rs 500 crores at most – given the track record of our agencies -the police, the CBI and what have you. Instead the money could well be spent in strengthening the existing laws, agencies, eliminating the loopholes and the bottlenecks, the leakages, etc., but then this is no entertainment – zero TRPs.

Worrying and doing something concrete about the most disadvantageous sections of the society is the least of their priorities. Where is the time for such “thankless” (and worse with no TV cameras around) tasks.

PS: I may edit this further.

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Witch hunt continues. No one will be spared. Congress is trying its best to
isolate Anna.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Kiran-Bedi-accused-of-inflating-bills-says-no-personal-gain/articleshow/10425634.cms

No

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Another VDIS scheme by government ? Black money in foreign countries
is being converted into white money by paying tax .

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/France-gave-info-about-Rs-400-crore-black-money-Pranab/articleshow/10421774.cms

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@Manohar T, I have taken a sabbatical from this blog . However yours was one worth stumbling upon.Is it just possible , THE ROOT OF IT ALL , lies the evil bramhinical caste ridden hindu society. Thus there is so much INDIFFERENCE and CALLOUSNESS at the starvation of millions of FELLOW indians. Then accordng to BRAMHINICAL CASTE RULES , they ARE NOT WORTHY OF COMPASSION , they are beyond the pale. In fact the very basis of caste is YOU DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANYBODY OTHER THAN YOUR CASTE.
Thus NDTV’s Hungry Kya programme , doesn’t even lead to a whisper campaign , yet the rabble rousers in Clown Anna team , with their cacophony HOG THE LIMELIGHT or at least the IDIOT BOX

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Vinod Sharma on Times Now debate says “You’ve allowed Swapan Das too much time to destroy Congress work” LOL! timesnow.tv/Debate-Ajit-Singh-Congress-tie-up—2/videoshow/4386887.cms

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Dr shan or cingulatedgyrys, whatever, you were silent on the 3 million deaths ar the hands of britishers in bengal famine, so dont bullshit about brshmins as cause of all evil. You in fact with your white asss licking ways which we called swethalingam aakarshan, tried to wish it away.
Pl you keep away on another long sabbatical, you add nothing to blog other than tajender or engrich type manusmrity buullcrap. Moron, calls himself doctor!!

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Vijay Kumar, Mohan, Pankaj ji, Balwinderji, Dr.Mishra, Rajiv and Rajiv, Mohan,

the congress party si at its old game of dispensing favours in poll-bound states. It has issued petrol bunk licences to more than 11500 party leaders and vote banks.
http://expressbuzz.com/opinion/editorials/petrol-pump-bonanza-shows-congress-desperation/325008.html

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In next winter session, Congress will bring in its version of Lokpal. It has started working on it already.
1. Attack on team Anna including the physical one have started.
2. Some members of Team Anna are being discredited.
3. Congressi supporters have left Anna camp after Hisar defeat.

Now to force MPs to vote for CONGRESSI version of Lokpal, they are unchaining the dog called CBI…Here is the news from Congressi newspaper-

http://www.hindustantimes.com/CBI-got-RTI-exemption-without-wanting-it/H1-Article1-759291.aspx

CBI got RTI exemption without wanting it?

At a time when it’s reeling under allegations of scams and scandals, official documents show that the government gave the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) more immunity from the Right to Information (RTI) Act than what the agency had originally sought. The issue of how much immunity

the CBI should get was bounced between several government departments, committees and officials that questioned the agency’s demand of partial immunity, all of which ended up with it being kept completely outside RTI.
Legal opinion was repeatedly sought by the government for the right advice and the right request from the CBI. This has been revealed in a set of confidential documents, ironically released through RTI to activist Subhash Agarwal.

A CBI official conceded that the agency sensed the government wanted to give them a blanket exemption and played along. Asked to interpret the series of events that ended with CBI out of RTI, a senior government official said: “It isn’t unusual to seek clarifications till everyone comes to the same point.”

The CBI’s original demand around January 2011 was for exemption of intelligence collection, internal analysis of evidence and its sources from RTI.

But the department of personnel that implements RTI found the request “vague” and asked for a fresh proposal.

In mid-February, the CBI gave its fresh proposal. This time, it wanted exemption from the RTI Act in all matters but was willing to release information relating to “administration, personnel, accounts/finance, budget and training.”

The department for personnel and training (DoPT) first sought the law ministry’s opinion on the CBI partial exemption request.

The then Solicitor General Gopal Subarmanium stated: “CBI officers need to be protected from dangers… the request for partial exemption is justified.”

This opinion was, however, rejected by the committee of secretaries, saying “it was not practical… and legally advisable”.

The matter was sent back to the law ministry with a specific request to seek the opinion of the Attorney General, GE Vahanvati. He said: “…the CBI does intelligence work which is directly related to security agencies….therefore it is legally feasible to put it in the list of organisations exempt from the RTI,” he said.

Disagreeing with Subramanium, Vahanvati stated :”I do not agree that there should be any qualification with regard to the exemption….”

Moily endorsed the AG’s opinion, and soon after the secretaries panel also gave its nod to keep the CBI, NIA and the NATGRID out of RTI.

On June 8, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who holds the cabinet charge of DoPT, put his seal of approval on the decision.

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Just watched TimesNow debate on Congress Alliance with Ajit Singh (RLD – Party of Jats opposed to Dalits. Pl. note Rahul is wooing Dalit with his food stealing antics at the same time).

Our Vinod Sharma sounded and behaved like Kumar Ketkar in this debate. I think he should maintain his dignity unlike Ketkar.

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NObody could ever visualise a world withut Gadaffi.

But the west was not going to swallow the insult of the lockerbie bombing and the bomb in an American disco. Basically 270 + 2 deaths.

now interestngly the ISI and Pakistan have killed about 2000 Americans in Afghanista, the latest being the embassy bombing. Plus they hid Osama.

I have a gut feeling that the raging bull US, will take some action in Pakistan, but does not know where to start.

Time for funa and games in our neighbourhood. We got to watch out that the Pakistanis dont drag India into the war, though…

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Yes Vijay for the first time I am hopeful as US is massing troops on border with Waziristan. And Kayani has thundered, ee are nuclear armed , beware. As long as India clevrrly keeps low profile, we ate ok. We can with US assent support balochistan quietly.
For Anna it may be corruption only but I think Indias biggest problems are
Illiteracy
Pakistan
Maoism
Islamists
Poverty, healthcare and clean water
THE BIGGEST, DISUNITY

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~~~ WHY pakistan should be SCARED ~~and ~~ we should ENJOY ~~~~
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For over 3 decades, Pakistan has played a deadly, decietful game. It fed and bred terrorists to bleed the world. And then acted like a hurt martyr to claim aid from all over the world.

And again fed and bred terrorists as it had found the perfect economic model. Breed terrorists and ask for aid to eliminate them.

But… while we in India suffered from 1980 onwards because of militancy in Punjab which was then transported to J&K and whole of India, Pakistan laughed like a hyena.

Unfortunately the game is over for now. The US which was partly responsible for funding Pakistan and militancy in 1980 is the hardest hit by it in Afganistan and 9/11 terror. Till now it tolerated it. But the American public…and the world for which their presidents do everything has seen Osama and heard Mike MUllen. Once such statements are made, the US WILL not turn a blind eye, even though it still may have love for its illegitimate child– Pakistan.

Basically duniya and the American public will start thinking t hat the US is impotent, in case it does not take action.

It lost 38,000 troops in the now forgotten Korean war. 58.000 in the Vietnam war.

Where it was just a question of ideology.

Out here it is a direct Paksitani assault and challenge.

Something huge jmay just happen.

First unilateral , brutal bombings on the Haqqani group.

And in case Pakistanis protest too much… maybe direct bombing in Punjab and Sindh on terrorist groups.

THe fun may just begin….

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Vinodji says, “Somewhat unfairly branded a Congress Trojan Horse, Swami Agnivesh quit (or was eased out) some weeks ago.”

For weeks like a peacock, strutted on Anna’a platform Agnivesh
Cool, articulate, the Swami argued, debated, but never in aavesh
He was always the trusted counsellor, in control of any sannivesh
who could have thought that he was a congress spy in chhadmavesh?

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Friends, here is a real, “mind blowing” idea:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=209351499131312&set=a.199641670102295.51050.199623573437438&type=1&ref=nf

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anna is ghandhian,
1) In mid 1918, Gandhi supported the War Conference main resolution of recruiting Indians to fight on the side of Britain and her allies if it ensured the acceptance of Congress-Muslim League scheme for Home Rule.

2) Gandhi wrote to the Viceory that he wanted to be “Recruiter-in-Chief” for the Empire

3) Gandhi stated in an interview to News Chronicle, London, that the Viceroy could remain in charge of military operations and India could be used as a base for such military operations provided that a National Government was immediately formed.

4) In an interview with Lord Wavell on August 27, 1946, Gandhi told him that “If India wants a bloodbath, she shall have it.”

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Occupy Wall Street Protests
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The aim of the protests

The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%. We are using the revolutionary Arab Spring tactic to achieve our ends and encourage the use of nonviolence to maximize the safety of all participants.

1) How do the protests -spreading to other parts of the world too – help in achieving their aim? Do these protests have the critical mass to really be effective.

2) Will the Governments intervene? In what way?

3) Will the corporates listen? What (corrective) action will they take?

Any answers!

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Tandon,

You said
“There are certain proposed sections/provisions that would need amending the constitution”

Do you mind highlighting those provision that require constitutional amendments?

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First about that buffon balwinder.Sikhs licked english boots , to the extent that the SEPOY MUTINY , known as india’s first war of independence WAS CRUSHED ONLY BECAUSE SIKH SOLDIERS lifted the siege of BRITISH at LUCKNOW.If the british were crushed at that uprising ,India would have independent 150 yrs earlier.
ALSO WE ALL KNOW HOW THEY WERE USED AS CANNON FODDERS in the fields of belgium duringww1, protecting England from german soldiers.
THIS DIMWIT CABBAGE HEAD LECTURES US ABOUT PATRIOTISM.
I still maintain CASTEISM /BRAMHINICAL HEGEMONY will HOLD BACK INDIA REALISING ITS FULL POTENTIAL.

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Cingulated Dr Shan, why you try so many disguises and IDs, your childish idiocy shrills thru. For the hundredth time, what my community or ancestors do is stupid debate. But what u as individual vomit here weekly, is more imp.
Your white lingam sucking, given sanskritised description of SWETHALINGAM UPBHOGTA , Shenoy at vrry best, is about you. Dr Shantanu Mondol u got MBBS on reservation, made it to Europe cos of massive shortage of junior doctors, ThANK YR BLOODY STARS. Do not spend rest of yr life bashing forward castes. This is debate of inteligence here, take yr tired podts elsewhere, u cockroach Dr SHAN,

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More “feathers” in Modi’s cap (oops!)

1) India Human Development Report raps Gujarat, praises UP and Bihar

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/India-Human-Development-Report-raps-Gujarat-praises-UP-and-Bihar/articleshow/10446060.cms

2) Mayawati bursts Narendra Modi’s economic growth myth

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Mayawati-bursts-Narendra-Modis-economic-growth-myth/articleshow/10446867.cms

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@ShahAlamKhan,
Okay, Dr Khan; here goes.
Let us first make a distinction between people and the cause. I think both of us would agree that corruption in its broadest sense is impeding our progress and making our lives tough. So, a movement against corruption has much to recommend itself.

Now, to the debate about the dramatis personae and their methods and antecedents.
To your points:
1. I have not read the latest by Arundhati on the anti-corruption movement- so, I can not comment specifically. The only thing we owe to Anna Hazare and his bunch of merry men and women is that they have given a face to the movement.
This is very “hindu” (forgive the flippancy)- in our country, we tend to make Gods (or at any rate bestow honorifics like Gurudev- Tagore, Mahatma- Gandhi, Netaji- Subhash Bose) and then sit back and wait for them to wave their magic wand for our problems to disappear. We are idol-worshippers!
But, sir, the problem is with us- the people. Not with Anna or his team.
2. I would rather focus on the cause rather than the people. That said, I have no doubt that all human beings have feet of clay. As the recent “travel voucher” issue displays (as an aside, in all places I have worked, this kind of shennanigans would be grounds for instant dismissal and the company would reserve the right to prosecute and recover the money; I have personally sacked people for far less).
It does not obliterate Ms Bedi’s track-record and achievements- it just shows the downside of our hero-worship.
Is Lokpal the right vehicle for prosecuting or investigating NGOs? IMO, no. I would prefer the anti-corruption body- in whatever shape- to focus only on government machinery and the people manning it.
Notice, I did not say Lokpal- I share Manohar’s thoughts on the Lokpal being just parallel bureaucracy.
3. Not having time to start something- sir, it is the same with me; I am doubly handicapped on both lack of time as well as ability. But, why not celebrate the fact that issues are being raised and brought into our consciousness?
Sir, the uniqueness of this struggle is that it is largely a bourgeoisie movement. As a class, they are notoriously difficult to mobilize. Aren’t you glad that it is happening?
4. I differ with you that our freedom struggle was not led by urbanites.
Re’ farmer suicides in Vidarbha- sir, all of us sitting in Delhi/ NOIDA/ Mumbai/ Gurgaon.. in our airconditioned bedrooms, are guilty. I wish human life had more value in our collective conscience.
But, would you have even known about this anti-corruption thing- if these guys were fasting in Hardwar or Manali ot Vidarbha or Kodaikanal?
When my daughter cries, she does it to attract attention- even she is smart enough to do so where she has the maximum eyeballs- and more sympathetic ones the better!
So, they are not clowns- they are just smart.
5. No comment!
6. The subtleties of the distinction between the satta and vyawastha (Congress and the Govt)exist- but, I agree with you, in today’s India, the distinction is difficult to draw.

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@Deluded Indians.
REMOVING CORRUPTION TOTALLY WILL MAKE MAKE LIFE LOT LOT EASIER for “east delhi citizens”BUT WILL NOT MAKE AN IOTA OF DIFFERENCE TO THE 50%POVERTY LEVEL IN INDIA. This is because to cure of your malnutrition YOU NEED FOOD. And that is a function of SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY, irrigation , mechanisation , storage , soil management etc. JUST BECAUSE 50% can sod it , THUS EAST DELHI CITIZENS are not bothered about the ZERO IMPACT REMOVAL OF CORRUPTION will have on general wellbeing of the poor.
Lot of corruption can be tackled by tweaking the system , BUILDING 100 MORE SUPER JAILS AND APPOINTING 100000JUDGES.ALL DISCRETATIONARY POWERS TO BE REMOVED.

Reflect on this bit of news that appeared on page 6 of Evening standard , a 72 page paper distributed freely to commuters.
BRITISH BUSINESSMEN PACK YOUR BAG FOR TRIPOLI
In the same page , another caption
British engineers can build the bombed out cities and roads.
NOW YOU KNOW WHY BRITAIN WAS AT THE FOREFRONT OF NATO AIRSTRIKES , AND NEVER A WORD EVEN FOR TIBET
Looks like recession may end soon

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Posted by Vir Sanghvi on Friday, October 21, 2011 at 8:42 pm.
” I am prepared to agree with Kejriwal when he says that the Shanti Bhushan CD was part of a conspiracy. We know now that the CD was faked and the refusal of the Delhi Police to recognise that it was a cut-and-paste job suggests a certain level of official complicity even if the CD itself was made by governmental sources.”
Would Mr Vinod Sharma respond ?

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This post is for everyone, especially Ashish and Pankaj as we were in a discussion on the subject earlier.

Before 9/11 happened Pakistan had a pretty much free run on India through its terrorist fauj. Now its fauj is terrorist as well as it has a fauj of terrorists

From 1980 onwards it staged Punjab and the J&K terrorism. And then it created the Kargil war.Only after 9/11 did it change track as it found that uncle Sam was no longer backing it totally.

So let us get real for a change. Pakistan is anyway going to cause terror. So in case Uncle Sam pounds its _ _ _ for a change, lets smile. And meanwhile put on a front of toughness that they dont get tempted to start a war on this border too.

They won’t start a nuclear war. Then the whole world would pound them to death. It could at best be a Kargil type of intrusion. Lets be prepared for that.

And in case the US actually gets down to a street fight… as a bonus, the end of Paksitan could herald in peaceful countries of Baluchistan and SIndh…

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Hilary Clinton said yesterday in the press conference YOU CANNOT KEEP SNAKES IN YOUR BACKYARD AND EXPECT THEM TO BITE THE NEIGHBOURS ONLY. Cant be any more blunter. What will happen next depends exclusively on Pakistan. One more attack on US embassy in kabul , waziristan will see tomahawk showering down. As to land invasion , well ALL US TROOPS ARE LEAVING IRAQ , SO AVAILABLE FOR AFGANISTAN.
india should not drop its guard , AND STAY ALERT , IT IS POSSIBLE TO TAKE OUT THE NUKES WITH SU30MKI, universally acknowledged as the greatest fighter around till american RAPTOR comes into the scene which is 5yrs away.

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I know about the final verdict in JMM bribery case but if you look at the history these MPs who took money for vote were hauled up by courts and were let off on technical ground.
Some people want this to continue indefinitely.

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I agree with both Manohar and Ashish that new Lokpal will be a parallel bureaucracy.
According to me both CVC and CBI should be merged into one body making CBI independent of govt. and working under CVC.

The CVC should be renamed as Lokpal and his selection should be done by panel where govt. & opposition MPs are in minority.

The CVC should be strengthened and given all the powers of Lokpal.

As far as conduct of MPs and MLAs inside parliament/assembly is concerned, the constitutional amendment if required can wait for time being but before that an Independent CVC+CBI = Lokpal should be formed.

On other side NIA should be allocated more resources and made independent of Govt. All the State ATS bodies should work under NIA and these ATS bodies should only be responsible to NIA.

It is time we make investigation and prosecution of any kind (corruption, terrrorism, riots etc.) free from political interference especially govts. (Central and State).

We can keep arguing about technicalities but it is not going to help. The status quo will not work anymore..We need change and that too very drastic. Our constitution is not some holy book that we can not tinker with. If constitutional amendments are not possible, we should find ways around it. At the end of the day criminals of all types should be punished.

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Manohar,
I concede the point that behavior of MPs and MLAs within house is protected by constitution.
However in the case of JMM bribery case and recent cash for vote scam, the act of BRIBE was conducted outside the parliament. This act of accepting and giving bribe was not done within the confines of parliament. Are such criminal acts conducted by MPs and MLAs outside house protected by our constitution?
Pl. clear my ignorance.

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@RajeevS, Thia is an attempt to clear your ignorance. MP’s and MLA’s HAVE ONLY ONE PRIVILEGE INSIDE THE HOUSE ,that is they can say anything WITHOUT RISKING A LIBEL, but that’s about it, OTHER THAN THAT , EACH AND EVERY RULE OF THE LAND APPLIES EQUALLY TO THEM .
Hope this clears your confusion.

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No one has commented since more than one hour. Is every one busy ?

I have read many bloggers writing about meeting deadlines, about being very busy,
paapi pet ka sawal hai etc.
This is for all those people

The amount of money thats in your bank at the time of your death, is the
extra work you did wchich was not necessary.

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Rajeev

The elected representatives are protected against their conduct(*) within the house.

(*) What they say or how they vote. If they use unparliamentary language, those are generally expunged and the member asked to apologise. These matters are dealt with by the Speaker and the disciplinary committee of the house.

Their conduct outside is subject to the same laws outside as applicable to everyone else.

The JMM bribery case probably failed because no connection between the unaccounted cash in their accounts and the way the voted in the parliament could be established. As for the crime of having unaccounted cash, it would be handled by the IT department (pay tax and a fine for example) or others independently of their conduct in the house.

I hope this clears your doubts.

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Yet another ban forced into place by Hindutva Peddlers

Under pressure from ABVP, a Sangh Organisation, the University of Delhi has banned the study of an article written by A. K. Ramanujan.

The article compares various retellings of Ramayana, by Dravidians, Dalits, Tribal, Shudra, Jaina, and other South Asian countries. Apparently having many Ramayanas works against the Hindutva cause and that has rattled the cage of Hindu Fundamentalists.

What is next on the list, which the Hindu Fundamentalists would like to ban in the name of forging a Homogeneous Hindu Society – which besides being an oxymoron, will destroy the very reason why India in general and Hinduism in particular is so charming.

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A post in response to BVS’s Case Closed appeared here by mistake.

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The Advani Rath Yatra Limping on Deflated Tyers

Even though the text BREAKING NEWS and the attendant ticker tape wastefully occupy the TV screens in Indian News Channels, it was still glaringly obvious that Advani’s Rath Yatra has lost its news worthiness. It seems to be very low down on the running order.

I guess such NAUTANKIS have outlived their usefulness, delivering increasingly less electoral dividends.

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ASHISH, VIJAY, SHENOY, etc- censorship

The west quotes Voltaire- I may disagree with you, but I will defend your right to say it. Educated people should have no difficulty with this simple assertion.

But theory and practice are often different. If you live in an inflamed and unstable world, then diplomacy and compromise is the name of the game. The west was bloody STUPID in the way it handled the Quran burning pastor, Rushdie’s offensive book and Danish cartoon controversies. SO F STUPID THE WEST WAS THAT LIVES WERE LOST IN THESE CONTROVERSIES.

So what does Dr Mishra say- sach bolo. lekin kadwa sach- soch ke bolo. Say the truth or say anything, but if it is bitter- then think long and hard before saying it. With this prism I analyse every controversy from Maqbool silly Fida Hussain to the Shivaji book controversy.

The Indian govt was right to ban Rushdie and in that process saved thousands of lives.

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guys few words about swapan dasgupta. He did his HS from La martineirre in Calcutta.
He is ?”connected” ? descendant of a very famous BENGALI industrialist. That is Calcutta Chemicals. It is was through and through “bengali” enterprise , TECHNICALLY BRILLIANT , very clean and honest.It had on its board, Prof Asima Chatterjee , Head of Chemistry ,Internationally reknowned.Its products were also world class , lavender talc, tuhina ., kanta perfume.But like all bengali enterprise , could not cope with the DIRTY aspect of indian business , and i am not sure if it exists any more. Swapan dasgupta graduated from St stephen’s in HISTORY, and managed to get a scholarship in cambridge under Prof Tapan Roychoudhuri , his thesis being POLITICAL SOMETHING IN BENGAL CIRCA 1864 OR SOMETHING.
INCREDIBLE TO STUDY BENGAL YOU NEED TO GO TO CAMBRIDGE.
Anyway that stint ,completely bowled him over with english culture.
So much so , in one article he remarked about high tea in The Savoy at strand ,and how that experience is incomparable

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Manohar, Engrich, Etc – What is the point

I am not sure if in the context of the BANNING of the Ramnujan Essay, Dr Mishra’s post actually makes any point.

The Essay itself is not Kardwa Sach by any leap of imagination. It suddenly seems to have become Kardwa to some Hindutvadi’s, because it distracts people from their Homogeneous Hindu Society message that they would like to propagate. Kardwa Sach element was also true of Salman Rushdies Fantastic Book – The Satanic Verses. The Book did not kill any one. People killed other people.

Variety of thought is so deeply ingrained in the Hindu Society – because it has evolved and grown by absorbing communities, thought, and practices – that making it Homogeneous is akin to vivisecting peoples creative thought processes and replacing it with the discipline of blind obedience.

It will NEVER work.

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@Ravi, Dont know if you are aware amongst SANTHALS the occasion of durga puja is not of celebration BUT MOURNING. Ram is not revered but feared and probably hated by the SANTHALS.I know this from one of my relative who lives in MALDAH , in west bengal.Apparently there are lot of santhals in the outskirts of maldah..
The BRAMHINICAL SCUMS even demeaned gautam buddha , by labelling his thoughts as being FALSE and work of somebody possessed by the demons.Not my words but the words od swami vivekananda

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Can somebody enlighten me , why THE POLYESTER PRINCE , an autobiography of Dhirubhai Ambani was banned. Where was the scope of riots with this book , or was it that WARTS AND ALL was to be revealed and the Govt with a little backhander from Ambanis duly obliged

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Ashish;
You did not respond to my last post. Either you agree or do not agree. Please do not ignore me. It is not that I wish to come one up against you, never, but would like to get enlightened in the process, of this tower(blog) of Babel.

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DR SHAN OF singlegyrus, even after getting yr puny bong asss whipped by millions on blog on your white asss worship you still could not help yrself. Your words= in love with english culture so that high point of his life was having tea in Savoy= how pathetically spineless can you get.
Savoy, Dorchester etc are inconseqential. I do think your SC/ST origin has poisoned yr mind so much that all you do is sikh hindu bashing and uk worshipping. This is almost psychitric, an OCD perhaps. Whatever keeps your sad life happy DR SHAN, youlovable obsessive little anglophile cockroach hiding in crevice of western society

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Ravi, I thought it was very clear that my post mentioned only Rushdie, Quran burning pastor, Hussain and Danish cartoons. Ramanajum is not mentioned at all !!!!
I can only quote Ashish here- ‘ Ravi, trust you to miss the broader point.
These were not done by ABVP; quite the contrary. Not for the first time, I think you only read to confirm your own world view. ‘

Ashish- you say- you are all for letting Rushdie publish. Despite the inevitable deaths ?? I support the practical stance of the Indian govt banning Rushdie back then. As I said- KADWA SACH YA BOL, SOCH KE BOLO

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Ashish

I am posting this out of thread for obvious reasons. But it addresses issues you raised in your reply to me elsewhere

Perhaps it is me, but it seems we are arguing from the same side but with different emphasis.

So I will try again to put forward my view point.

I have already stated that hegemony of the “progressives” in our education system is not conducive for the advancement of open and honest education.

However, replacing it with hegemony of those who favour a different orthodoxy, a Hindu (their version of it) orthodoxy is, in my opinion worse.

My reason for taking that stance is because the methods used to gain the hegemony by these two groups is also fundamentally different.

The first group is a loose confederation of “like minded” individuals whilst the second group is that of a highly organised, centrally inspired and directed group.

The affiliation formed by the first group is on the basis of free will – even if it is based upon willing acceptance of a certain hue of indoctrination, whilst the second group is dictated to by the “Thinkers and strategisers” of a highly organised Political Organisation.

In my view that difference of modus operandi is very significant.

Days when Communist Polit Bureaus, performing a role similar to the RSS central think tank are long way in our past. The progressives these days are free marketers and not your dyed in red fire-brand communists.

The current trend is towards “scientific history” and Upinder Singh and Nayanjot Lahiri are but two examples. History is being re-written daily and DU is rightly in the fore-front of this renaissance. JNU may well be a different story.

I think banning of Salman Rushdie’s book the Satanic Verses and that of Bhavsagar Granth by the orthodox Sikhs are totally un-defendable. I used to own a copy of the Satanic Verses (I loaned it to some one, who chose not to return) and had that been a current topic, then you bet I would have defended the right of it being freely available to read every where in the world.

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Ek aadmi INDIA GATE pe
chilla raha tha – “PRIME MINISTER nikamma hai..”
Delhi Police ne usse pakadkar peetna shuru kar diya,
aur bola Chalo thaane . P.M. ki INSULT karta hai …
aadmi: Maine toh ENGLAND ke P.M. ke Liye Bola Tha .
Delhi Police ne do Thappad aur lagaye
aur Bole – “BEWAKOOF BANATA HAI, kya? KYA Hamein NAHIN PATA KAUNSA PM NIKAMMA HAI? “

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Obama Election Strategy

Recent events have led one to guess what Obama’s Election Strategy may be. Two of the options are:

1. Is it that Obama is relying on a stream of Home Coming News vignettes on TV to create a warm feeling towards him among some of the Republicans and the hope is that it will result in success at the ballot box.

2. Is Obama thinking that there is now such a strong anti Pakistan feeling among the public in the USA, that an extension of the Afghan war DIRECTLY into Pakistan may be a greater electoral asset. If that is the case then the video clip showing the setting off of the Nuclear Armed “Seventh Fleet” or its modern equivalent may deliver bigger electoral dividend.

By killing Osama Bin Laden, the US killed a Sanp, but the Sapera is still very much in tact. It is daily creating more Samps.

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Did Anna team break any law for anti congress campaign at Hissar ?

Interesting article.

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/can-pc-prosecute-kejriwal-for-anti-cong-hisar-campaign/20111021.htm

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Why was ‘Da vinci code’ banned in India whereas it was not so in the west?

Let there be freedom of speech and thought on everything and bans should not be applied selectively.

I want Ramayana to be commented on but at the same time Quran should not be exempt from free critique.

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ravi,ashish &shan,will of a legend,

Muammar Gaddafi’s website, Seven Days News, says it has published the last will of the deceased former leader of Libya.

The document was reportedly handed to three of his relatives, one of whom was killed, the second arrested and the third managed to escape the fighting in Sirte.

Here is the English translation:

“This is my will. I, Muammar bin Mohammad bin Abdussalam bi Humayd bin Abu Manyar bin Humayd bin Nayil al Fuhsi Gaddafi, do swear that there is no other God but Allah and that Mohammad is God’s Prophet, peace be upon him. I pledge that I will die as Muslim.

Should I be killed, I would like to be buried, according to Muslim rituals, in the clothes I was wearing at the time of my death and my body unwashed, in the cemetery of Sirte, next to my family and relatives.

I would like that my family, especially women and children, be treated well after my death. The Libyan people should protect its identity, achievements, history and the honourable image of its ancestors and heroes. The Libyan people should not relinquish the sacrifices of the free and best people.

I call on my supporters to continue the resistance, and fight any foreign aggressor against Libya, today, tomorrow and always.

Let the free people of the world know that we could have bargained over and sold out our cause in return for a personal secure and stable life. We received many offers to this effect but we chose to be at the vanguard of the confrontation as a badge of duty and honour.

Even if we do not win immediately, we will give a lesson to future generations that choosing to protect the nation is an honour and selling it out is the greatest betrayal that history will remember forever despite the attempts of the others to tell you otherwise.”
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The RSS/BJP have always practiced double standards and doublespeak.

It is also demonstrated here on this blog day in and day out by their apologists and supporters.

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Mr Shenoy

You have read Gaddafi’s will, that should be sufficient.

We should all feel safe now, in the knowledge that there are several gods. How revealing!!

BTW us Sikhs believe in Eik Onkar

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Just because Anna Hazare and his team have stood up against the mighty UPA Government of India, they should be prepared to face its wrath. So tidbits about alleged misdemeanors are being made front page headlines. The standards they wish to set for Team Anna is those of the old Dharmendra starrer “Satyakaam”.

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Anna and his team are not asking for any favours from the government. With the support of the people , they wish to mount pressure on the government to perform its duty which it is not performing. The government is not the “Mai Baap” of the people but its servant.

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~ WHY rants against HINDUS AND HINDUISM REFLECT a tu-rd Tajendar mindset~
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For the past few days, we have been seeing a concentrated attack on Hinduism on this site. It makes me yawn !! How Boring… how straitjacketed… how predictable… it is those time wasters again, serving a jehadi agenda !

They have again hijacked the meaningful debate on the LokPal- with fantastic contributins by Rajeev and Manohar– and the other interesting topics– How Dr Mishra rattled the cage, MOhan’s jokes, Shenoy’s poems and a debate on religion hy Dr Shah Alam.

Let me go back to the mid ninties when the attacks on Hindu religion was considered very “intellectual.”

I was in college, even had a beard– partly Che` and partly fashion and often attended the leftist meetings at Mandi house– mostly because of an ambition to become a director/writer

At that point, the flames in Punjab were subsiding but Kashmir was getting engulfed and Mandal was the topic of the day.

“All exploitation in this country is because of Hindus,” One guy in khadi kurta would declare
.
“It is better that Hindus are converted…” another would comment.

I would hear them out, somtime argue and the finally say, “do you have the guts to say the same things about other religions in public forum.”

That is what I will say today. Engrich and his saathi have a divisive agenda. But they should not spoil a public forum by monoplising space. THe subject is on Anna. Why spoil things and make them nasty….

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Vijay
Undermining of the Hindu tradition and culture and pushing it into oblivion by those who have been in Power in India for long, was a collateral fall out of Vote-bank politics. This was a conspiracy of the Left and drew tacit support of the Congress. This was the easiest strategy to win elections in India. Unite thge

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@ Vijay

SO you too were part of the beard and kurta brigade ! Interesting…

Anyway, IHMO, Indian seculairsm can only genuinly work as long as Hindus who are 85% of the country remain secular. I know they are lot of attacks all around… but they need to emphatically tell the attackers that do not try to spoil Indian secularism by trying to judge Hindusim in a weighing scale in which you dare not put your own religion…

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@ Vijay

Well written…

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shenoy mohan vijay and ravi ,
see following on u-tube,
The Real Reason Why Gadaffi Was Killed & Why We’re In Libya

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Mr. Sharma’s new blog is now live.

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MANOHAR, trying to wean myself off the blog so will quickly answer YOUR MOST IMP QUERIES, not all
1. The article you quote is in error. The trust fund worth 20 million dollars per child was set up 10 years ago, with grandparents as trustees. In the current recession, somehow I do not think the Gates sprogs will ever be signing up for doles or educational loans.

Just their ‘invisible’ security costs millions per year.

2. Merely pointed out that in the west, maybe ? 5% of Indian business families split up, the end result being stability in old age both financial and emotional, with an active role in bringing up grand kids.

On the contrary, for whites the family breakup is 45%, fathers have often not seen thier own kids for years, are embittered and lonely and thus feel no need to pass on a business to ?ungrateful kids- the money is blown up sometimes with the help of very smart and manipulative eastern European girls.

RAVI- repeat- when 2 men have a talk man to man, pl do not, like a jenana throw barbs from behind a veil. Thank you Sir

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ANNA HAS THE POWER TO BECOME PM OF THIS COUNTRY, BUT HE NEVER WANTED THAT. ALL THAT HE WANTS IS A STRONG LOKPAL. BY GETTING DEFEATED IN THE NEXT FIVE ASSEMBLY ELECTIONS ONLY YOU WILL LEARN YOUR LESSON.

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C – CORRUPT
O- OLIGARCHY
N- NAKED
G- GANDI
R- ROWDIES
E- ERRANT
S- SHAMELESS
S- SPINELESS

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This disqus is disqusting

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Bibliomasochism, hey? Damnation without relief.

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” Now, contrast his situation with the poor Muslims who lived in slums and tenements, who had their homes ransacked, their daughters raped and their relatives killed during the riots.”

Really? Only Muslims were killed in the riots?

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Really Vir give up writing and find another job. After all, you have quite a burden of corruption on your shoulders.

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abe jaake Radia ki tatti saaf kar aur 10 runpath ki toilet ko clean kar dhang se harpic use kario, aur Raoul Baba ki Diaper bhi dho dio. Journalism tere bas ki nahi, isliye nahi ki tere me talent nahi, isliye ki tu hai khangress ka desi k u t t a !!! hurr!!!

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Yes, only Vir Sanghvi and advertised politicians get away for free in independent India. All others pay eventually.

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NO Sympathy for Sanjay Dutt, he MUST pay the price. Any body sympathazing with criminals is a part of that team.

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Fair article.

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In India their is rule of law for some people. How about the corrupt politicians who are murderers rapists and instigators of Genocides ; protectors of culprits involved in Bhopal tragedy police encounters. (Times of India refused to publish this blog). A country’s greatness is judged by the rule of law for all. In India some people are more equal than others.

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It is easy for Vir Sanghvi, I don’t know who this Sanghvi guy is – I live in US for last 45 years, to vax eloquent but what about Sanjay Dutt being dragged through the courts for over twenty years.

Isn’t there a requirement for timely justice? I would have no compunction seeing Sanjay doing his full five years or whatever the punishment might be. But after 20 years….give me a break.

Any law abiding society, if it wants to follow the law to the letter has a responsibility to meet out that justice in a timely manner. Sanjay has been punished more than enough. And just the courts’ fuc…up is enough to obiate his sentence.

I am no Sanjay fan. I would say that for any man or woman. Any fair society, if it prides itself to be fair and law abiding, must provide timely justice or let people go. You MUST NOT destroy people’s life just because you can.

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When one reads Vir’S Write up, it is very objectively written and one must respect him for his views.

Well written and Well articulated, Vir.. thank you..The Law is Law.. it is the same for all.

One must respect the Judiciary and not let the Executive waterdown judgements of the Judiciary.( all this Talk about pardon is not fair as then the floddgates would open up).

As Vir mentioned, good behaviour would deifinitely hep in remission of the sentence . Mr Dutt has shown guts in saying that he will not appeal. Let us respect him for that.

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I feel Dutt suffered enough, Sunil Dutt is also no more to help him and Sunil Dutt did lot of good deeds for country, Sanjay made a wrong judgement call, spent 18 months in Jail and is suffering for last 20 yrs, mental tension itself is a big punishment, in India i haven’t seen any big person suffer that much and he was not involved in blasts, also we Indians have tendency to be jealous and revengeful against any famous person, I am middle class person and I know not even one person will support me if I am in trouble but still i feel Sanjay Dutt suffered enough, law and justice system is based on reform and punishment, there are few like Delhi gang rape juvenile who will walk in 3 months (May 2013) and Chief Justice supports him , now can such a person reformed answer is NO, on other hand i feel Sanjay Dutt was not mature and may be opponents of Sunil Dutt set him up in some trap, Now the point is if Sanju baba is let free it will be set as precedent so there can be one way, he has to stay in jail for 3.5 yrs as per supreme court judgement, let him spend 1.5 yrs in Jail and he should donate 2 yrs of earnings in charity (40 crores), this way law will be respected and his suffering will get reduced. If he doesn’t serve any sentence then it may create wrong impression on minds of other youngsters and India is already lawless state, I have sympathy for Dutt and I remember once there was robbery in my home and I got bullet in my body, in government hospital nobody touched me for 4 hrs since I was middle class person with no connections but still I somehow feel this man has suffered as per Indian context, justice should reform those who are at-least remorseful, some people can’t be reformed like Delhi gang rape persons but may be Dutt can be, he has 2 small kids now, if he is not harming anybody why to make criminal of him, find out some middle way. His father also did lot of good things and Sunil Dutt was a good man.

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how much money they pay you !!. After Radia who?

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SANJAY DUTT WAS NEITHER A KID NOR A JUVENILE IN 1993———-IF HE WAS FEELING INSECURE HE COULD HAVE APPLIED FOR A REVOLVER LICENSE——–IT IS SURPRISING WHY SO MANY PEOPLE ARE SYMPATHISISNG WITH HIM—SYMPATHY FOR WHAT?—–THERE IS NO SEPARATE CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCUDURE FOR FILM STARS—-BOLLYWOOD IS NOT EXEMPTED FROM INDIAN PENAL CODE

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Indeed as always respect overrides sympathy!

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Well written.

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If I am you, I will block these comments which are simply jibes. Better
to have silent readers than commentators who are waiting for a chance to
humiliate you. I will give same advice to Barkha, Karan Thapar etc. Let
these commentators boil and get high blood pressure without any outlet
to ventilate their frustrations.

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There is more bravery involved in admitting that you have made a mistake
—– then why not admit his guilt the first day & go to jail. he would hv been out of jail by now & hv a peaceful life. He dragged thinking his money , lawyers & political friends will help.

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calling up your gangster pals and asking them to send over a couple of Kalashnikovs.
—- dawood is a not a petty gangster, he is into terrorism, just to shore up sanjay’s image , don’t downgrade poor dawood, he may get angry !!!! he sent Kalashnikovs and rdx to india for your info.

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The latest ecnonomist (british) talks about Journalists getting money from the congress to write praise of maa and naeta dynasties. can you give us some details>

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I think you are forgetting that Sanjay was consorting with the mafia till 2000 and they are police tapings on it. The grenades which reached his hosue were not for dewali crackers.

Possibly his drug damaged mind thought he was fighting a filmi gangwar.

Of course being the son of a muslim mother he wanted to protect Muslims. But was this the way?

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his strategy is at fault, tearing away bills is unlawful and people wont support it

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kejriwal did not deliver any value … he was all talk and no real results. just like anna.

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Oh Mr. Sanghvi, is is because Mr. Kejriwal attacks your puppet master Ambani (Radia tapes anyone?!) that you disregard his protest? When was the last time one million signatures were signed by the people of Delhi with a completely hostile media opposing his every move at the behest of crony capitalists who run your organizations? Never is the answer you are looking for.

PS: By the way Gandhi and Modi are alternatives?!!! You just killed whatever credibility you may have had. Please stick to reviewing restaurant on Brunch, That is what you are only good for.

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Dhekte jaoo election main Arvind jee hi jitenge. Sachai ki raste main chalna muskil hota hai lekin akhir main jeet sachai ki hi hoti hai

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change 1 thing at a time. not the whole system overnight. “change the world, one thing at a time”.

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Mr Vir, do read Outlook article:
The Vir Sanghvi- Niira Radia Tapes

Many of powerbrokers are missing ‘good old crony days’ or fearful of rough no-money futhre India.

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India is not in recession inspite of the fact that global economy has slipped and fallen face down. It is inevitable under the circumstances that the growth rate has come down. The manufacturing has come down as countries who buy India’s products have no funds to pay for the same but our thirst for oil has grown and the import of which pulls our economy down. Perhaps Modi has an alternative; he has declared that he is half full of gas and if all BJP-wallas let out gas publicly , our gas bill will go down. ELECT BJP; the economy will improve by letting out gas in all public places.

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How many of us have truly ‘heard’ what Arvind is saying? First read his book or at least this review – ‘The agony & ecstasy of Arvind Kejriwal’ at http://bookrecommendations.org/swaraj-by-arvind-kejriwal/

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why these pseudo journalists think they know best of everything , they dont pay their from their own pocket ,its middle class who is suffering the utilities bills are more than household grocery expense total …. Congress should be voted out

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Ambani, Ambani, Ambani

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There is perhaps another reason which has not been carried in this piece. Probably citizens of the country expected Kejri to stand outside the political system and be its critic, holding a lamp to all the dark deeds that India’s politics accepts as routine. Instead, Kejri swallowed the bait thrown by the political parties: that his challenge was to prove that people were with him by winning elections. He formed Aam Admi Party with dreams of winning elections while this makes Kejri just as another politician with ambition in the eyes of the ordinary citizen: how can he. And if he is just another politician, how can he distance himself from the corruption that keeps the political system running?

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That blogs reads more like a gossip without any substance and facts..

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If nothing else, this movement has shown that every single newspaper and media house in this country is dishonest just like most of our politicians. If we can’t count on them to even do their job of reporting without bias and fear, then it is better that we know about it now rather than falsely consider them the 4th pillar of democracy. They have made it clear that they are not. What a shame for the largest democracy of this country. As for the blog, it’s just another piece of opinion that nobody cares about. The only reason anybody read it in the first place is because it appeared as one of the links when we googled “Arvind Kejriwal”. Your 2 minutes of fame ends here.

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Saheb…middle class ki abhi aapko samajh nahin hai. Bade bade alternatives fail ho gaye hain Kejriwal k saamne.

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What do you expect where you have people roaming free as ‘journalists’ when they should be behind the bar long time back?

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Honestly speaking. Does it hold any good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! today.

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Last year we supported Anna and his team, but they have shown arrogance in accepting what they were getting from govt.Now middle class feel betrayed and puzzled.

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it is simple at this juncture India needs a PM like Modi. Who delivers prosperity to everyone who works hard irrespective of caste, creed, religion, sex etc etc (what ever vote banks exist)

Kejriwal hasnt done much – although a good man & capable individual. Maybe he is fit to be as an advisor in Modi’s central govt panel

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media is not covering it this time – don’t know for what reasons, they cover rahul gandhi vs narendra modi, itna to woh apne baare main sochte bhi nahi honge jitnaa media soch leta hai

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In India even media has been bought. As soon as the current foreign minister threatened to sue the media, they stopped giving news about Anna and Kejriwal.No media channel had the guts to further explore what was charged against the current foreign minister. Media didn’t have courage to stand behind their news . How can you expect to make changes in the society when the media is equally corrupt. We had seen some news regarding Zee TV officials. Media is also only after money. They are not practicing true journalism.

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reading your stuff make me think of – have keyboard, will type.
Poor us we have to choose between worse and worst, bad to aap pehle likhte the

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modi modi modi,gandhi gandhi gandhi ,kejriwal kejriwal kejriwal,i dont understand why are we highlighting this as problem , when there are bigger real problems in India which is affecting our countrymen like drought in vidarbha where my brothers are dying or in Punjab where my young brothers are losing there youth becoz of drugs or in Gujarat where if you dont earn money you are not human,or in north east where my countries young soldier is dying ,just because our stupid government is not showing concerns for our borders, In capital my sisters arent because safe becoz some people consider law as there nanny and about my middle class families one thing i know for sure is that last thing which concern there mind right now is election on who will win, because first thing they want is to win is there income and then anything else ,so stop bitching my fellow commenters ,becoz what veer sanghvi write is just read by people like us,who have nothing to do but just sit on a chair in front of a screen and think “aree have i paid my internet bill or should i take money from papa” so guys stop even looking vir sanghvi’s blog or what modi said today,or what arvind or gandhi said,and start commenting and highlighting real problems which efects my country ,your country,our country “INDIA”

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Oh Mr Sanghvi, you talked everything except the paid media. Almost one year back media decided not to cover him and still they are doing the same. Its just paid media who is not covering him. Come out and feel the heat of AK with public at any public function.
Not allowing media to cover him is fake victory by other political parties in the proxy war but I am sure Ak has already won this. (election result is not authority to prove that but still after Delhi election I will wait for your blog.)

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Guys, pls think that after so many decades, India got some sort of stability with 2 poles of parties (BJP & Khangress) so Indians will never let other party(without any principles & planning) come into center-stage in just 1 year time only b’coz AAM aadmi party is 1 year baby without tried & tested unlike Khangress (124 yrs) & BJP (50 yrs) so any new party takes whopping 20 yrs to take the shape in any country with their credentials among the masses so ‘Khujliwal’ must know this fact and leave day dreaming….Infact any business take that much time to shape and produce some dividends.

Indians will never let aam aadmi party to come on center stage as it will destruct Indian state much badly and also will make 3rd party system in center cutting Khangress & BJP badly and will destroy 2 party system in India and it will destroy Nation’s unity & stability badly from outside enemy country.

As the India is developing in crucial stage to the 21st century fastly and in current scenario allowing 3rd party system in the center will create mass chaos from the point of view country’s economics & economically as tried & tested “BJP & Khangress” can take the challenge to raise country unlike aam aadmi party without any experience, principles & plans is a blunder to great our country politically & economically.

So better “Khuliwal” go to hell but mother India must be saved.

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AAP will sweep the elections !!

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ohh you Sanghvi, you still haven’t washed hands off paid news .. if Rahul Gandhi is an alternative you should hang your head in shame… the thought that that confused heir with no brains can be our next PM raises my hair .. . people like you who have sold there souls for money . .. .How much of it do you really need to sustain a living -a life ??
Everyone can see that and you know that too that the pol-khol on Mukesh Ambani was the reason Media blocked Arvind Kejriwal, what else explains the fact that immediately after his press conference- every media outlet suddenly stopped showing content from Kejriwal .. IT IS DOWN TO ZERO COVERAGE

And still I remain an idealist- AAP will win in Delhi and that will inspire an entire generation of Indians to vote for AAP

You just wait and watch!

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SANGHVI, THE “ANTI-NATIONAL” CLOWN…

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The nation stands solidly behind Kejriwal, Anna and all those wanting to breathe freely without having to suffer because of corruption, abnormal prices, worst law and order situations. This article written looks politically motivated. Let all Indians support actions aimed at relieving the people of India b y anyone who does so.

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Let us wait and watch

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I’m sorry to say that although I respect Arvind Kejrival & the issues he raises…I do not agree with his ways…the only thing he is achieving here is spoiling his health big time….he says we should not pay the bills, then they will cut our electricity, charge extra for late payments, probably lead to court cases etc…we have a family, young children…are we supposed to go without electricity for days…this is no way…he should work at readying his party for the CM elections in Delhi…..I would vote for him & I am sure a lot of others who are sick of Shiela Dixit…but this is no way…Talk to the people in Delhi, tell us how you will solve our problems…then we will vote for you.

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Mr.Sanghavi..u missed the entire point of this movement..and yes Middle class is watching and they will trigger the ballet on D-day ..it is the underclass(it is your term and it is a bad term)…who needs to be aware about their rights coz Big Fish can buy their vite by distributing kambal and daru..so if u can’t support any good cause…please don’t put your head in it..and also ..Media ..what do u mean by thsi term? An hour of Sanjay Dutt Debate -this is called media or Sunny Leone on your papers front page-is this media? Understand the points and then criticize middle class….middle class is their with Arvind..yes they can’t affoed to leave luxury..so keep watching and note down my comments somewhere..you will understand this in November

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this time who told you to write this one and how much you make by selling your soul and pen

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Simple reason. Middle class seeing him as vote cutter n ultimately ending up help congress. No other reason.

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U may be rite but he did what he had to at that point in time. Kiran and Anna for some unknown reason didn’t support him. So he needed to communicate with the public abt his differences with his own team leads who backstabbed him. And abt the industrialists and media, I’ve not heard of it. But if its true, then what’s wrong??? He still did the rite thg standing upto his principles. Unfortunately in any country, the media is as corrupted as the politicians. Most of the media houses are either funded by politicians or bought over. In this scenario it’s a lost battle. But still, there is a glimmer of hope in the form of social media (Facebook, twitter) who don’t filter out anything and provide platforms for free speech. Ppl shud use them effectively in countries like India to form huge gatherings and support ppl like Arvind. Honestly that’s all Arvind can hope for. I feel so sorry for him. Ppl do hv priorities but at least they shud come out and show the support in the open in large numbers. Signing petitions like they did in this case may not serve any purpose. End of the day they’re sheep and will continue to pay their bills and move on with their lives.

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I stopped supporting Anna, Kejriwal etc. when they started talking secularism like Congress. Both have no problems hobnobbing with Mullahs and believe me they will support congress in future.

So no support from people who want congress out.

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Regarding fast in April 2013,it is disheartening to read such a article from seasoned journalist. Are you no longer in inner circle of MMS ?

(1)Please check the news of immediate preceeding April 2011 fast where “MMS is trying to re-impose EMERGENCY ” was a recurrent theme.

(2)Please check essays/articles by Sri Khare ex-media-advisor of MMS most probably in The Hindu, hinting the turf war between Pranab Da and MMS regarding PM post. Both believe to have first right over PM post.

(3)Check the credentials of back room boys organising this show.

(4)Read the Caravan report to understand as how this fast was brought to national stage by Arnab after a few calls from rigth source.

(5)Also be informed that ex-PM Sri Gujral was indebted to MMS for his help in last election. Sri Gujral is connected to Times group through maariage. Another leading light Sri Sri jee association with Times group is like that of sugar with milk.
　

The REAL TRUTH is that it was a well orchestrated drama [ see movie MAIN AZAAAD HOON featuring Amitabh and Shabana to understand what drama or HERO HIRALAL if you prefer lighter stuff].

The aim was to introduce DICTATORSHIP through backdoor heavily backed by communist last citadel NAC. It was the anti-Pranab faction of Congress who were actively participating as back room boys in organsising the drama.

The move back fired as BJP refused to hand over tag of graft fighter to Kejriwal.The general mood in public was anti-congress and not anti-graft. The BJP play-acted but refused to fall in the trap organised by NAC. RSS overt support to known anti-indian Bhusan-duo was ” AAPka JOOTA AAPke sar per ”

The fight back by Pranab and ensuring that DICTATORSHIP cannot make back room entry. India is indebted to Pranab and his supporter for this fight back

Mr Anna lost his zeal to fast , once the promised President post , was captured by Pranab.

Mr Kejriwal lost his favour with Congress NAC , as he fail to make stage gor entry of Rahul G as “GAME CHANGER “.

I Rest my case.

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Regarding fast in April 2013,it is disheartening to read such a article from seasoned journalist. Are you no longer in inner circle of MMS ?

(1)Please check the news of immediate preceeding April 2011 fast where “MMS is trying to re-impose EMERGENCY ” was a recurrent theme.

(2)Please check essays/articles by Sri Khare ex-media-advisor of MMS most probably in The Hindu, hinting the turf war between Pranab Da and MMS regarding PM post. Both believe to have first right over PM post.

(3)Check the credentials of back room boys organising this show.

(4)Read the Caravan report to understand as how this fast was brought to national stage by Arnab after a few calls from rigth source.

(5)Also be informed that ex-PM Sri Gujral was indebted to MMS for his help in last election. Sri Gujral is connected to Times group through maariage. Another leading light Sri Sri jee association with Times group is like that of sugar with milk.
　

The REAL TRUTH is that it was a well orchestrated drama [ see movie MAIN AZAAAD HOON featuring Amitabh and Shabana to understand what drama or HERO HIRALAL if you prefer lighter stuff].

The aim was to introduce DICTATORSHIP through backdoor heavily backed by communist last citadel NAC. It was the anti-Pranab faction of Congress who were actively participating as back room boys in organsising the drama.

The move back fired as BJP refused to hand over tag of graft fighter to Kejriwal.The general mood in public was anti-congress and not anti-graft. The BJP play-acted but refused to fall in the trap organised by NAC. RSS overt support to known anti-indian Bhusan-duo was ” AAPka JOOTA AAPke sar per ”

The fight back by Pranab and ensuring that DICTATORSHIP cannot make back room entry. India is indebted to Pranab and his supporter for this fight back

Mr Anna lost his zeal to fast , once the promised President post , was captured by Pranab.

Mr Kejriwal lost his favour with Congress NAC , as he fail to make stage gor entry of Rahul G as “GAME CHANGER “.

I Rest my case.

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It is quite possible that the Sangh Parivar which provided crowds for the Anna Fast now sees Kejriwal’s party as a threat. They see Kejriwal cornering a bit of the opposition space. Hence their indifference to Kejriwal. This only strengthens the hypothesis that it was indeed the Sangh Parivar that used its cadres to supplement the crowds at Anna’s fast.

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I think that Supreme court should be give the Pardon to the Sanjay Dutt in the way of Humanity .This case had been since 20 year whenever Sanjay had been completed the half term of Jail therefore I do not think Now Court does not need give to any type of Punished to the Sanjay dutt.

http://www.prlog.org/12109431-musicians-friend-coupon-code-20-off-on-entire-offerings.html

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