The New Sound of Music



I don’t know how many people read this column regularly (four, perhaps?) but ever since Download Central began a little over a year back, I’ve heard one common response: “Why do you write about bands that we’ve never heard of?” This has become such a refrain that I’ve often felt a twinge of self-doubt. Am I really writing about completely obscure bands that no one knows or cares about? If that was indeed true, what was the point of writing the column?

Topping the NPR list of 50 best albums of 2009, as picked by listeners, was Grizzly Bear’s Veckatimest

LISTENERS’ CHOICE: Topping the NPR list of 50 best albums of 2009, as picked by listeners, was Grizzly Bear’s Veckatimest

But that is the point of Download Central. To unearth great new music that one could nudge other people towards them. The internet has made it easy to discover a treasure trove of bands and simple to share music that you enjoy with other people. And Download Central aims to do just that… so that great new musicians who’re not in the mainstream (and, therefore, not in the music stores here) can be discovered by others. But what if people thought these were obscure people making unheard of music? Wouldn’t that defeat the very objective of Download Central?

So last week, with a hint of the blues, I was mulling the future of this column, when suddenly the light shone brilliant and bright. I was reading the All Songs Considered blog at NPR (a great source of new and indie music for me), which had just posted the ballot results for the 50 best albums of 2009 as picked by listeners and I realised that not only had I heard and liked at least 20 of the top 25 but I’d also mentioned them all in Download Central over the past year.

Topping the NPR list was Grizzly Bear’s Veckatimest, followed in the second spot by Animal Collective’s Merriweather Post Pavilion. Then there was Middle Cyclone by Neko Case, who’s also a member of the

Animal Collective’s Merriweather Post Pavilion was second in the NPR list

A YEAR TO DISCOVER: Animal Collective’s Merriweather Post Pavilion was second in the NPR list

Canadian band, The New Pornographers, and Andrew Bird whose album Noble Beast wowed the indie scene this year. And, of course, The Decemberists’ Hazards of Love, Wilco’s Wilco (The Album), Bon Iver’s Blood Bank’ and The Avett Brothers’ I And Love And You… all albums and bands, you will notice, that have found mention in these columns through the year, sometimes more than once. So, some people out there are listening to the music that I am too. Hmm… makes me feel good!

On a more relevant (and less narcissistic) note, the list of 50 top albums, as chosen by NPR’s listeners, is an interesting retrospective of what happened during the year on the predominantly indie or non-mainstream popular music scene. I say ‘predominantly’ because there are some mainstream acts as well on the NPR list—I’ve linked to the entire list here (where you can also listen to all of these artists and, in some cases, even download their music, live or recorded).

I liked the NPR listener’s ballot list mainly because it helped jog my memory of the past 12 months. It’s only when you look back at all these albums and bands you realise what a wonderful musical year it has been. And I’m not only talking about indie music. Consider: Bob Dylan had a good album, Together Through Life, out this year (it made it to #35 on the listener’s list); U2 had No Line on The Horizon, which was, well, kind of okay (it made it to #27, though); and Pearl Jam had Backspacer (I wonder why it made it only to #29; should have been much higher).

But what the NPR poll results really made me do was to dig out all of those lovely, lovely albums of the year and listen to them again. Scottish band, Camera Obscura’s My Maudlin Career with Tracyanne Campbell’s exquisite voice became part of my commute time playlist as did Modest Mouse’s No One’s First, And You’re Next, a short, 8-song EP but one that shimmers and satisfies like rock music ought to.

Women singer-songwriters like Bat For Lashes Aka Natasha Khan, became stars of the Indie scene

Women singer-songwriters like Bat For Lashes Aka Natasha Khan, became stars of the indie scene

This year also saw a new project by Jack White, Dead Weather. On their debut album, Horehound, White, the guitarist, actually switches to the drums and the band is a kind of a supergroup. There was so much more this year, mainly from women singer-songwriters who’ve become stars of the indie scene. Besides Neko Case, who I’ve mentioned above, there was St. Vincent’s (aka Annie Clark) fantastic exploration of the inner anxieties of women in her album, Actor, Bat for Lashes’ (which is the stage name for Natasha Khan, the Anglo-Pakistani singer) Two Suns, an album that explores the singer and her alter ego, and the Soviet-born New Yorker, Regina Spektor’s anit-folk, quirky, Far.

Well, of course, Download Central has mentioned all of these and so many of the NPR listener’s top 50, through the year. Didn’t you know this column is all about obscure music?

This week’s reccos:

  1. Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix: The fifth album from French alt rock sensations, Phoenix. Grammy nominated. You can’t not listen to it.
  2. Spiritualized: English space rock band from the 1990s. This is a live concert from 1998 at  Cane’s Bar & Grill in San Diego, while they toured with Radiohead.
  3. Cat Power: Two songs from the critically acclaimed minimalist American singer-songwriter–He War and Speak For Me.

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  • Manoj

    Modest Mouse, what band. pure addiction.got it all (most) figured out.

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    Yes, Modest Mouse is amazing.

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    Shwet Reply:

    Sir I’m a great fan of your column. Thanks for bringing up these bands and their different kind of music and being a perfect guide to music world.

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    sanjoy narayan Reply:

    Thanks. Looking forward to what 2010 brings us in the form of new music. I’m sure it’ll be a great year for music….

  • Meher

    I’m surprised to hear that people haven’t heard of bands like Animal Collective, The New Pornographers and Neko Case! And Camera Obscura and Bat for Lashes are some of my favourite music makers. It worries me that the only music people seem to care to listen to is mainstream pop and annoying retro music that is played ad nauseum at any pub / bar – why do people shudder away from anything even slightly different? My friends and I are huge fans of Band of Horses and Marina and the Diamonds, but we can be sure that we’ll only ever be able to hear them on our ipods.

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    Yes. I think it’s time pub and club owners begin to take a few risks and play more indie music. It’s happening but not as much….

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  • anhad hundal

    im definately one of the four people who read your column…….i’ve really enjoyed soem bands and artists you’ve recommended….keep writing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Chandrashekhar Karekar Reply:

    Sir,this is answer to your 1st question.I am the one who is regular reader of Download central.
    Being deeply moved by the firsy paragraph,i am here sitting to show my interest.You are my window to the new music world.Thanks for introducing great band such as Pavement(i got all albums,its great),Modest mouse to name few.Without you it was not possible to hear those bands.Thanks !!

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    Yes, Pavement were truly great. Hope you’re checking out Stephen Malkmus’s solo stuff as well.

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    Thank you for your encouragement!

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  • ameya

    and you do a very good job!and i am a regular!i always go looking for bands you mention.you helped me discover morrissey,m ward,supersonics etc.

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  • Maddy

    When a certain international music magazine announced a couple of years ago that it would hit Indian shores, I started rejoicing. As I am sure, did a lot of other people. After all, it was (is??) an iconic magazine which had shaped and influenced an entire generation of music lovers, and even musicians themselves. While it is not the driving force that it used to be, the icon status remains…

    When it finally did arrive, the disappointment grew with every successive issue. While some of the “imported” articles were up to expectation, the others largely disappointed. What was groan-inducing was the absolute sub-standard quality dished out by the writers within the country (barring a few guest writers maybe).

    So my point is, you are doing part of what they claimed they would do in the first place i.e. introduce readers to new music…and doing it in a brilliantly straightforward manner. Please don’t change anything…ever. A million thanks just for that :-)

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    Oh, that magazine? Stopped looking at it long back ;)

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    varsha Reply:

    will admit…wasnt one of your readers..I thought that such obscure bands couldnt possibly be good…but I listened to them..and they are damn good………..thanks..will check your blog regularly now

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    thanks, varsha…. keep listening!

  • http://chronicling-college.blogspot.com Deboleena

    I actually love this column precisely because it refuses to acknowledge bands like Pink Floyd as the end-all of music and explores so many different kinds of music.

    It’s all about eclectic originality :)

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    Hey, thanks…. :)

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  • Hector’s heel

    Don’t listen to music. Any music. It’s the devil’s drive. :)

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  • http://www.lonelymusing.blogspot.co Zaki Hasan

    Hey, Thanks for introducing and promoting such cult bands in previous post. Have you tried Guster?

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    Yes. Nice music. With humour as well. Here’s an interview: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5696141…. from back in 2006, though

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  • http://www.2eyespickle.com fidel mehra

    Now this is not fair .. Why is there no new article for the past weekend. Havent checked the paper, dont tell me the column is no more..

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    sanjoy narayan Reply:

    No, we dropped the regular features in the year-end issue of Brunch. Back next Sunday!

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  • Sameer

    Dear Sir,
    I am a great fan of all your articles.I would appreciated it if you could write more on new emerging artists such as La Roux,Cinema Bizarre and Tokio Hotel
    Give them a listen when you have the time!
    Yours Truly
    Sameer

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  • Nick

    Yup agree with Sameer
    We need more ‘in’ music in your articles…upcoming bands and the like.
    Otherwise great job!

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    Heh, heh! I write about what i like to listen to, but that you must have gathered by now! Sorry, if I’m not listening to everybody’s list of favourites! Thanks for reading, anyway :)

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  • Raghuraj Menon

    Hi,
    Thanks once again for all the great articles throughout the year. It’s a relief knowing that atleast somebody listens to the kind of ‘obscure’ music I love. I have a request. Focus a bit more on the Indian Rock Scene because the kind of talent we have here is no better or worse than any international act. I’m currently hooked on to Supersonic’s ‘Maby Baking’ and Blackstratblues ‘The New Album’. And these are just some of the great albums released this year by some very talented Indian musicians.
    Anyway, thanks once again for all the wonderful articles…
    Keep on Rocking!!
    And a very Happy New Year

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    sanjoy narayan Reply:

    Hi, Thanks for your comment. I did write about supersonics and them clones. shall explore more :)

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  • Karishma

    Have been listening to My Girls by Animal Collective on repeat…probably one of the best songs of 2009..and i think there are a lot more than 4 ppl reading your column!! :)

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    Thanks, Karishma. If you can get their prev. album, Strawberry Jam, do check it out.

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  • Varsha

    Hi,

    I realize this is a few weeks late, but I wanted to let you know that there is at least one person who knows exactly what you’re talking about. Animal Collective, Vampire Weekend, Flaming Lips, Dirty Projectors, Metric (check them out, if you haven’t yet), Grizzly Bear, etc are constantly on repeat on my iPod. And Regina Spektor, Annie Clark and Karon O (Yeah Yeah Yeahs) are probably my favourite singers.

    I’ve been scouring the internet for over 5 years looking for new/different music because mainstream music just didn’t cut it for me. I’ve discovered the most interesting and intriguing music and I do my best to spread the word at least among my friends.

    So, thank you writing about what you do and please continue doing exactly what you’re doing. Don’t change a thing!

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    Sanjoy Narayan Reply:

    Thanks Varsha. Do write in with more suggestions!

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  • Anonymous

    Binoy,

    Bangladesh has refused to take the boats full of Muslim refugees from
    Myanmar and they have even stopped NGOs like MSF –
    Médecins Sans Frontières working in Bangladesh to help RohangyasMuslims as it will send a wrong signal to these refugees.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Well Bangladesh has refused… and protesters in India are dyeing to get them in ,,, in this overcrowded country….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hope you would say the same thing for Pak Hindus !

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    vijay ! Reply:

    I will not say the same thing. Why should I?

    There was a division fo the country in 1947. The Hindus who stayed behidn were to be given equal rights.

    In case of mayanmaar, the original citizens are from Bangladesh.

    So what do you think of the sikh killing in US? You think Indians should not react?

    Anonymous Reply:

    People who stayed behind are Pakistanis, not Indians.

    But India is doing fine by issuing visas quietly without making rhetorical statements. Pakistani Hindus can come in as refugees, use India a transitory place and plan their future.

    vijay ! Reply:

    people who g to the US and become US citizens are Americans. Will now th Congress ban people from condemning the massacre fo Sikhs in the Gurudwara?

    Anonymous Reply:

    The Indian Govt. will stop that when the US Govt. start issuing rhetoric statements about issues with Indian Christians.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Double standards and double speak….all the time…all the time. One set for Hindus …and another for others. So Hindus in India should not speak out if Hindus are made to suffer for no other reason but because they are Hindus.

  • vijay !

    I am sure the schools and colleges in US would be the motivaters of sport. I think the same is not true in India. Maybe we need our government support and infrastructure. However we could do with more private participation.

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  • Anonymous

    The politics of riots

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/headon/entry/the-politics-of-riots

    At 3.25 pm last Saturday, I received a call from my wife. “We are in the middle of a riot,” she said with as much composure as she could muster.

    A violent mob of young Muslim men was burning buses, police vehicles and TV Outdoor Broadcast (OB) vans in front of our car in Mumbai’s central business district near Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus (CST). Through my phone, I could hear the muffled shouts of the rioters as they hit our car with whatever they could lay their hands on.

    Where are the liberal Muslim voices? Azim Premji speaks of governance and philanthropy, rarely about secularism and communalism. He must speak up now. So must Aamir Khan and others in order to put 175 million Muslims in India on the path of modernity and social and economic progress rather than the path of medieval self-destruction.
    —————–

    One more balanced article by Mr. Merchant.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    One must leave Premji and Amir alone. Let them do what they are good at.

    I wouldn’t want them to be the face of Indian muslims and face the abuse and ridicule of BJP trolls.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    So you managed to get the BJP in, even though the rioting was by the Maulvis and the COngress is refusing to persecute them. !

    Do you see the BJP hand even when the Sun erupts in solar storms?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    For a celebrated writer, you definitely leave your sense of discerning with your donkey friends and borrow it sporadically. No wonder you find it difficult when it comes to linking chapters in your novel.

    I was talking about the “leadership” by Premji and Aamir, not the riot.

    vijay ! Reply:

    We are talking about role models. If Muslims get excellent role models like Aamir and Premji the world will change.

    Unfortunately the intellectually challenged jodi of Baby G and Digviansh G want to thrust Osama-ji as a role model.

    And rest of Congressis chamchas and sycophants swoon that the G company is doing excellent work…

    Anonymous Reply:

    If we talked about role models, how did you bring in your cynical comment on riot ? Or, the starter has gone bad in humid ?

    vijay ! Reply:

    So are you happy with the new Congress leadership revitalisation plan

    a) Get in Baby G first

    b) Then as news reports say Priyanka G will come in next

    C) Robert G has also put up his hand.

    Do you feel that being a democracy, Mama G has now given us a democratic choice of choosing between 3?

    Anonymous Reply:

    When we talk about something sit tight and stick to the subject. Don’t run wild like a small child singing sing song.

    We have talked about these things many a time. Go back and read them all over if you are not clear about my opinion.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Oh! I understand you will be comfortable with all 3 ! :)

    I hope the Congress is strict on infiltration from Bangladesh. As I understand that now it is seeing the locals as being marginalized and low in numbers… so it it would be willing to get in more Bangladeshis.

    Bada chaloo hai yeh Congressi dimag!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Your memory is really getting spurious. We talked about the Assam issue few days back on this block itself.

    Cut down on your drinks.

  • Anonymous

    What is the working model ?
    How do stadia and infrastructure get built there? Who does the planning and budget allocation ?

    Do sports federations collect taxes / donations and fund the infrastructure directly?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good questions. Let us segregate professional sports and amateurs ports.

    All, or almost all high schools (9th grade to 12th grade) have all sorts of athletic facilities – track/field, gymnastics, swimming, foot ball (American) teams, basket ball teams etc. All high schools have athletic directors, coaches etc. These are funded by a part of the property tax; school boards decide the allocation for sports,and most allocate generously because of the pride factor in winning. Once these kids graduate, there are public facilities – city swimming pools etc that kids can take advantage of. The inter school competitions bring the best to the forefront. The kids who want to go after Olympics etc pursue this with their own money to appoint a coach etc.

    Most of the high schools are public (meaning state funded). Private schools generally do not have a wide range of sports facilities, and whatever they have is funded by them from the tuition and not the state/community..

    High school sports in many states, especially southern states and Texas is almost like pro sports, from a competitiveness, news coverage etc..

    As far as professional basket ball (e.g Chicago Bulls), football (e.g new England Patriots) etc is concerned, the stadiums in general are built by cities hosting the teams, and they give tax breaks attracting teams to move. So, some of the teams move from city A to city B because city B constructs a new stadium and provide tax break on earnings.

    The best option for India may be to build state funded regional centers of excellence for different sports, starting with a few , such as gymnastics/track field, table tennis, volleyball, wrestling, etc; give funding straight to these schools, have prominent athletes such as Tendulkar, PT Usha, etc to run these; keep them out of IAS/Govt etc etc (sort of IIT/NITS) . Select interested students should be taken for 3-4 year program with complete funding for the deserved.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The idea of club is a relatively recent phenomenon. The state does participate in the infrastructure building in the ‘beginning’.
    In India too private sponsorers have started taking over sports. The Mittal foundation sponsoring archery is a recent case. When there will be substantial private participation, the state participation will lessen and the focus will shift.

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  • Anonymous

    It is said that Husband is the head of the family,

    But remember that wife is the neck of the family.
    & the neck can turn the head exactly the way she wants.

    Good morning friends.

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  • Anonymous

    I-T report to box in Baba Ramdev

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/I-T-report-to-box-in-Baba-ready/articleshow/15485470.cms

    NEW DELHI: The government is giving final touches to a two-volume report prepared by the income tax department on Baba Ramdev’s trusts and ayurvedic ventures, possibly making a case for tax evasion against the yoga guru who on Monday launched an offensive against the Congress on the issue of black money.
    ——

    You will face the wrath of government if you dare to go against them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right. The Govt. not only harassed the Tehlka owners, but even their investors and ruined them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In our country two wrongs make one right. If BJP did at a small scale Congress being a bigger party will do at a larger scale.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The scale is relative. The drink in your son’s hand always looks like a glass of juice.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Attack is the policy you have adopted. You know that Congress cannot be defended so instead attack BJP even though they have been out of power since last eight years but you will not stop reminding the readers of what wrong they had done when they were at the center.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You talked about “the Govt”.

    I just gave you another instance of “the Govt.” to support and strengthen your case.

    Anonymous Reply:

    That is good one. I have laernt the lesson, next time I will make sure to name the party.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sure. You are welcome.

    Every comment invites response in equal measure.
    Only dumb ones don’t find new responses.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Tehelka is a rag which exposed RS.!lac “corruption” by Bangaru and employed prostitutes to defame two highly decorated army officers.

    And you are comparing this rag with this government harassing Ramdev for causing Sonia Gandhi acute embarrassment regarding her foreign bank accounts.

    Wah! Pathakji, aap taarrif-e-kaabil hain.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It did not change the fact that Bangaru ( the acute-nationalist, honourable and esteemeed Party President of Bharatiya Janta party ) lapped up the “bribe money” and promised “all help from the party and the Govt” to get the defence contract.

    The highly decorated officers who fall for “desi prostitutes” could be highly vulnerable to “honey traps” set up by our enemies. Such highly decorated officers should be demoted and sent to the basement to deal with non-critical documents. Don’t try to defend such characters.

    On 2nd day, Ramdev announced to show “the proof of corruption” next day like a BIG BOMB BLAST !

    Please send us the proof if he took out of his salwar and passed it on to you if you are not already hurt,injured and disabled by Ramdev chinese cracker Dhamaka.

    Anonymous Reply:

    And if you hold a small char-anna coin before your eye, you can hide the whole moon.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Brilliant observation.

    Just don’t hold things too close for comfort.

    Anonymous Reply:

    In the context of the subject of this blog, I would say the government is playing with fire.

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  • vijay !

    ~~~ WHY I GET DISAPPOINTED IN INDIA~~~
    ———————————————————

    Pathak G calls me an acute nationalist. Fine I lvoe it. but I still want a huge change in India– quick law and order solutions which punish the criminals. THIS IS NOT HAPPENIENG.

    here is a case or which I have to battle today.

    A frieinds father purchased Property from DLF in Faridabad. in 1994. They shifted to England in 1999 and the property lay unattended. Last week when they came back, they discovered that the land mafia had made fake papers and now shows that they sold the property to the mafia guys. They even have a fake court registery!

    now either we ffight the battle in court … or give up …

    yewh hai real India…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    These kind of crimes happen in any part of the World, not only in India.
    It happened thousand years back and would happen thousands years later.

    Fight it out legally.

    Don’t sound like a failed Devdas.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdas didn’t lose any property, he only lost his lady love.

    Devdas voluntarily gave up his claim on his father’s vast property.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good advice for Vijay.
    Property is not like a lady love that he would cry like a failed Devdas.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If he is not a very influential peron than I doubt that he will be able to get the land back legally. He has to settle the matter with the mafia guys.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes. That’s true.

    I just wonder how our benevolent Vijay will deal with a desi pistol lying idle on the table during negotiation.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you buy a property in India and plan to leave it unattended for few years than you should make sure that you pay hafta to the local goons.

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  • Anonymous

    The
    O’Briens of India and Pakistan.
    http://quizderek.blogspot.com/

    Each year, on August 15, I find myself thinking of my great-grandmother – my
    father’s paternal grand-mother. Nellie Bella Biswas, as she was named when born
    to a Bengali-Christian family with homes in Jalpaiguri and Manicktala, formed
    part of my earliest memories. She died in 1969, when I was a small schoolboy.
    Yet even by then she had come to represent an influential figure for me – the
    familiar matriarch, caring but firm, who taught the three of us, my brothers and
    me, to speak Bengali.

    To my young mind, Nellie Bella O’Brien, as she
    became on marrying an Irish settler in India – symbolised history. She was a
    walking, talking monument of history. To my innocent eyes, she seemed to stand
    for Mother India: a venerable and iconic figure who shed a silent tear in August
    1947 as one country became two nations, and a composite society was split
    forever.

    Nellie Bella cried in August 1947, she cried every day from 1947
    to 1969. She cried for the line in the sand that Partition drew. She cried for
    Patrick, her first-born, her beloved son, who stayed on in Lahore.

    The
    narrative of Partition has been written in terms of the subcontinent’s Hindus
    and Muslims. Christians have had only a small role. Anglo-Indians – the
    community I belong to and which makes up a minuscule section of India’s
    Christians – have had just a walk-on part.

    ——-

    A good article.

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  • Anonymous

    The Swami and the Amogh Astra

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    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/open-page/article3755008.ece

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    …..
    The Swami said, “Mahadev, I am deeply dejected because while all countries in the world have invented wonderful weapons, my country Buffoonistan has invented none. The Chinese have invented gunpowder, the British warships, the Germans tanks, the Japanese kamimaze pilots, and the Americans atom bombs, my country has produced nothing.”

    At this Lord Shiva said, “Do not be dejected. Your country will produce an Amogh Astra [invincible weapon] which none can match.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Great satire.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I must say he surprised me with his satire and writing ability.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is good for dustbin for me.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Only when you try writing an original piece of satire, you will know how difficult it is to write one convincingly.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ravi used to write some good ones too. I haven’t got a problem with the writing skill, but the motive and content.

    If someone ridicules a person for raising his voice against corruption and inaction on black-money, he might as well offer a solution. If not in the satire then elsewhere. I have never heard of a solution from him or any other intellectual who are out to malign the people/movement.

    Isn’t it clear that the Congress doesn’t want a strong Lokpal and has no will/inclination to do anything about black money stashed abroad? Have these brilliant satire writer and also a former judge ever questioned those in power?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Don’t mix up.
    We will have many opportunities to debate on Lokpal, Black money etc.

    Here I enjoyed the writing part. I wish you did too.

    Yes, I consider Ravi to be a good writer.

    [ I also have problem with the "intent and motive" of Ramdev, like many. But we can have discussion on that later.]

  • Anonymous

    This is what a Muslim mob can do!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    These are RSS activists in the guise of Muslims. Fundamentalist Muslims
    don’t wear jeans and carry lathis. RSS people are associated with lathis.

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  • Anonymous

    Mr. Jethmalani said that Rahul Gandhi has black money stashed abroad and
    has challenged Rahul Gandhi to sue him. Will he be sued ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rahul says he has far more serious work to do. People are wondering what could that be, they haven’t seen him working ever!!!

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  • Anonymous

    Good article.

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  • Anonymous

    Vilasrao Deshmukh passed away.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We should not say bad about the dead; but the world is less by one crook

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We lost two young politicians from Maharashtra – Mahajan and now Deshmukh.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We don’t blame Mahajan for anything. Congress might find a scapegoat in Deshmukh in Adarsh as they did in case of PVN Rao for Babri.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We also don’t blame Mahajan for anything now that he is no more and ofcourse we don’t expect you to blame him even if he was alive. Why just you even Gopi wouldn’t.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan-

    Looks like God is an important player in protecting India from thieves!

    Wish He had called Deshmukh a bit earlier.

    Hope He will soon call Jagan Reddy, Chandrababu, Alagiri, Raja, Stalin, Sharad Pawar, Praful Patel, Maulyam, Thackrey, Reddy brothers, and all other crooks without much delay!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Only a demented soul would write such an inhumane comment – hoping for other people’s deaths.

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  • Anonymous

    And some have the CBI working for them and hence don’t need to bribe the judges!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The CBI is same for UPA and NDA.

    Neighbour’s wife always looks a little extra sultry.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But the wise man waits for the siren to go off.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    O brother… ! if YOU 18 or 80… But Padosan se ishq… koi nahi bhoolta…

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  • Anonymous

    Attack on the Mumbai media by Islamic organizations and supporters for not reporting the incidents in Mayanmar (?) and Assam!

    http://kafila.org/2012/08/13/how-to-start-a-riot-out-of-facebook-yousuf-saeed/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is a good write up by Shivam Vij detailing how the social media could be misused using morphed images to create disturbances.

    I still wonder why does the killings of Muslims in Myanmar matter so much to the Muslims here that they start attacking media vans and policemen? I have never come across a similar reaction from Hindus.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Buddhists killing Muslims? I am wondering what our old friend Engrich would be saying about these killings. He use to claim that evil Hindus
    killed all PEACEFUL Budhists in India and few remaing migrated to South Asian countries.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I got to speak to a Burmese (Christian, if that matters) at work earlier today. He said that the country has over 95% Buddhists who have lived peacefully with people following other faiths over years. The current spat of violence was essentially triggered by the rape of a Buddhist lady by some Bangladeshi settlers.

    He said that the govt. is saying their national government is happy to keep them in their country as long as try to assimilate with locals and make an effort to learn their language and respect their sensibilities. They even invited the well respected Turkish foreign minister to help in the reconciliation and rehabilitation efforts in the effected ares a few days back.

    As a side note, he also said that he loved India and the spirit of democracy and entrepreneurship of its people.

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  • Anonymous

    anna phanna all gas. ramdev is king. ramdev mustad oild lathi fix all.all see what is ramdev what is anna. vk singh, gadkari, yadav all fall down damdev foot. india revolution redy. jai hind.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mangalam-

    Something is in the air. Let us see if it will succeed, or the vested parties will kill it

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    Anonymous Reply:

    nothing kill ramdev.breth in breth out air. all problem fix. jai hind.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    HI Ravi

    How is life outside this blog?

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  • Anonymous

    What does Sharma propose to develop Olympians?

    Is it more bureaucracy? Bureaucracy is OK, if it is the Chinese model. China has demonstrated that it can develop world class athletes and compete well in international forums. They know the plucking, pruning, flowering…They did this in 10 years !

    What can India do from a government perspective other than the miserable execution that has been demonstrated in CWG etc?

    Rather than getting carried away, may be we should just focus on developing a world class soccer capability. Kids are playing on their own all over India; may be good coaching, protein nourishment etc will develop world class players.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    More bureaucracy more corruption.

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  • Anonymous

    In the congress nobody is there with conviction. Everybody from Sonia Gandhi downwards is there for the money and immunity from CBI.

    As for gifting land, Justice Banerjee of the “Hindu pilgrims committed suicide at Godhra” fame, too got a small piece of land for services rendered secularly.

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  • Anonymous

    But Swamy made Sonia Gandhi apologise to the supreme court for her falsehood about a certain Oxford degree.

    Ram Jethmalani too will make her sweat about the Swiss bank billions.

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  • Anonymous

    Pathakji,

    you are slightly off the mark here. I never ever believed anything about the rape. I know he is too decent to hurt even a small boy.

    What I have strong objection to is his make believe into which all congressmen including “famed” journalists like Kumar Ketkar walk, expecting him to deliver 2014 and many elections thereafter.

    He should set at rest all these false pretensions and say boldly that HE IS NOT UPTO IT.

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  • Anonymous

    veterans of Kalkaji garages :-)

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  • Anonymous

    Amitabh Bachchan has written this on his blog.

    On the twitter platform a short while ago, Moses from Israel
    mentioned his love for the song ‘ Kajara re’ and I put in a 140 letter message,
    stating that just the other day I heard a most astonishing story about the song.
    It is one that is at once filled with sorrow and grief and immense irony, so
    those that wish to skip this portion are advised to do so.
    Ram Gopal Varma, who is making his next film on the 26/11
    terrorist attack on Mumbai, has gathered through his extensive research and
    sources a most poignant occurrence.
    Three senior most police officers that had travelled on that
    fateful first day, in a police vehicle towards the Hospital where the terrorists
    were active, had been shot instantly and died while still in the vehicle. The
    vehicle had also carried two constables that escaped the firing, as they had
    ducked in the rear end of the Qualis behind the seating. Two of the terrorists
    had after the shooting of the officers, walked up to the vehicle and pulled out
    the bodies of the three officers, and ridden the vehicle to cause further
    mayhem. The two constables unknown to the two terrorists had remained in that
    hidden crouched position without making a sound, even though one of them had
    been injured by a bullet in the shooting that killed the officers.
    The vehicle, now driven by the terrorists was driving along
    to a predetermined destination to catch up with the others in the team, when one
    of the hiding constables’ mobile rang ! One of the terrorists, sources or Jadhav
    the other constable, has stated to be Kasab, now captured and in custody, turned
    round while driving and pumped bullets into the constable who’s mobile rang,
    killing him. Jadhav who was pretending he was dead, lay still, inches away from
    his colleagues dying face, when this happened. Through communication and
    suspected movements of course this vehicle was abandoned by the terrorists and
    another family vehicle travelling on the road opposite, was forcefully stopped,
    its occupants removed at gunpoint, and taken over by the terrorists which then
    through a blockade at Girgaum Chowpaty, by the police, was intervened and that
    is where through the brave efforts of another constable, who took a bullet from
    them but grappled with Kasab, caught him alive !
    And now … for the other facts as reported … the ring tone of
    that mobile phone of the constable that was shot in the Qualis … was … ‘Kajara
    re’ .. !
    And more … the call he was getting, was from his Father, who
    wanted to know what was happening, because he was seeing and watching television
    that there was some trouble in Mumbai !!
    That phone call cost the constable his life ! His Father has
    till date not been able to live with it !!
    It is painful to narrate something like this .. can one
    imagine the plight of those that endured this ordeal .. ???

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  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————
    ~~~ WHY WE NEED KIRAN BEDI TYPE F POLICEWOMEN AND MEN ~~
    ————————————————————————————————

    Been through a messy day in faridabad trying to help a freind caught up in a property fraud done by the mafia.

    Funny part.

    The police sided up with the Mafia. They tried to scare the genuine owners by trying to throw them in jail for fraud !!

    It took all my contacts in the media and lawyers to sort out the situation temporarily.

    My conclusion. The police are a mafia. Real thieves. Unless we get in Kiran bedi type of honest officers…. the poor and innocents are bound to be fu_ _ _d

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay-

    More than individual employees/officers, the system has to be restructured. The centralized bureaucratic/police systems of India are too retarded for a modern country. Having observed the American police system, I am of the opinion that the system in India really needs radical change.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mafia in India is combination of police and politicians.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    YOu are right. I will take this up in detail later. The police are still harassing the actual owner of the plot. Very sick.

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  • Anonymous

    Interesting insights from the Hindustan Times poll.

    There is a question on the Presidential system..70%+ favors direct election. I wonder whether people meant election of the current system of President (such as Pranab Mukherjee, Patil etc) or are they vouching for a presidential democratic system such as in US. I believe India will be better off with a Presidential system; definitely it will be less corrupt.

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/Images/Popup/2012/8/15_08_D_BSCM30.pdf

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Binoy,

    Interesting survey, but not sure of the accuracy as don’t know how many people took part in this survey and also not sure whether people of India take these surveys seriously and give honest answer to the questions asked.

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  • Anonymous

    Whether we like it or not, America can afford to be “ignorant” as long as they have power!

    Unfortunately power speaks!

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  • Anonymous

    Greetings to my friends in India on the 65th independence day celebrations!

    “jhunda oonje rahe hamara”

    Let us pray (and work) for India and Indians.

    btw why did Pranab Mukherjee give his speech in English? Shouldnt he be speaking in Hindi to the country so more citizens can hear and understand what he was saying?

    (even if parts of South india may not understand Hindi, majority of Indians do; he should have spoken in Hindi)

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  • Anonymous

    65 years ago we got Indipendence from England. Hopefully soon we will get
    Freedom from corruption
    Freedom from communalism
    Freedom from poverty
    Freedom from illiteracy.

    HAPPY INDIPENDENCE DAY TO ALL .

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  • Anonymous

    Another independence day, another speech.

    I felt sad for Dr MMS, pointing to the lack of growth/investment as security issues. What should am admi do for growth/investment?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The speech sounded more like an election speech. He talked about
    MNERGA, RTE, mid day meal and similar other ‘achievements’ of the
    current government.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Next decade we must invest in Honesty.

    If you don’t have a controlled growth mechanism, private players will come in for the profit maximisation which usually leads to inherent corruption.

    Only the Govt. can’t have profit maximisation through auction, the private parties will too go for profit maximisation which will lead to the consumer exploitation.

    We have had enough money in last 2 decades. Even telephone operators became most sought after entities. Pubs have corrupted our value system. They have compromised our Indian value system.Now it’s time for honest value system. i will not say Gandhian values. Because even Gandhi did not have pure values. He too compromised.

    Any reference ?

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  • Anonymous

    I asked my wife : Duniya mein kitne desh hai.?
    She said : Desh to ek hi hai, Hamara Bharat, baki sab to videsh hai.

    Once again Happy Indipendence Day.

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  • Anonymous

    On Independence day police lathicharge and tear gas people in Hooghly district of West Bengal.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In a way, Indians need autocratic leaders like Mamta, Jaya or Modi who can kick, crush anybody questioning them. indians love being dominated and used to being told what to do. They can never value gentle persuation. They mistake gentleness as a sign of weakness.

    Mrs Indira Gandhi showed us the way.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Just cannot stop yourself from bringing up Modi, isn’t it ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Are you ashamed ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are better than me and very well versed in almost all the subjects but where Modi is concerned I think I know about

    him slightly more than you. Your impression is wrong about him.

    By the way Mamta Di like Mrs. Indira Gandhi kicks, crushes anybody who questions her but SoniaG MataG does not even allow anyone to question her.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Think if Sonia didn’t allow questioning, then nobody wouldn’t have dared to call her “italian kutti” in public.

    Think what Mrs indira Gandhi would have done.

    ===
    I survived in the bad world with my animal instincts. Sensed danger by sniffing and understanding the shift in body weight of people, voice, slight facial and eye movement. I recognise and understand Modi in a way that you can never do.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Calling names isn’t quite the same as questioning? Is it?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Imagine people are not allowed to question can they even dare to call names ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Its her political adversaries who may call her anything, what Mohan probably means is the loyal partymen? Can they dare to question her?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I bet Rs.5000 you would not know 5 ministers’ name in Modi’s Govt. So who can question him ?

    People who have interacted with Sonia personally have great words for her. Even Sushma praises her a lot.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Same thing can be said about Modi also. Whoever meets
    him have great words for him – Amitabh Bachchan, Anil Ambani, Raj Thakrey and many others.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Modi works individually. Sonia mostly works with a group. Even her most policy decisions come through interactions with large groups through NAC .

    Anonymous Reply:

    Wrong impression has been projected by the media about
    Modi. There are regular meetings, brainstorming sessions,
    idea are discussed, rejected, accepted. Best ideas are chosen and Modi makes sure that whatever is planned is
    implemented. That is the main difference between Gujarat
    and other states that policies are implemented in Gujarat
    with almost full support from bureaucracy where gradually
    red tape is vanishing.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The “vanishing red tape” is called “arbitrariness”, even corruption elsewhere.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You can give spin by using such words but the fact will remain that Gujarat has and is improving under the leadership of Modi and slowly and gradually all the people
    of Gujarat are benefiting and are enjoying the fruits because the policies of Modi is bringing prosperity to the State.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ask Kejriwal, Anna and Ramdev to shout and abuse Modi for not appointing Lokayukta for 8 years and ask him to appoint in 3 days.

    Have 20 months of unrest by Kejriwal and Anna in Ahmedabad for Lokayukta with similar intensity and public abuses then come back with growth figure after 2 quarters.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Again you are blaming Team Anna for the lack of growth
    and failure of economic policies of UPA. Well, that is your opinion which I do not agree with.

    By the way since we are on the topic of Gujarat, I do not
    think that BJP will win with the same margin as last time.
    There is some anti Modi wave going on in Gujarat, the reason of which I am not able to understand – One of the
    reason could be his arrogance which is evident from his recent
    regular speeches – . Since about 12-18 months the local
    Gujarati papers have starting writing against Modi which
    was not seen earlier. This may affect the outcome of the
    forth coming elections.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You have dealt with the Stock market. You know how much rumour and sentiment impact the market and investors.
    I invite you to “relive” those moments by replaying video’s and start thinking objectively.

    Start from the day of Press Conference by Vinod Rai, CAG, the man I consider either to be given Bharat Ratna or be flogged in public for destroying Brand India during CWG in front of the World.

    Also ask him what’s the presumptive loss to this country caused by his act. Team Anna got boosted by his CAG’s public act.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Rumours do impact the stock market temporarily but they
    do not have any impact on the overall results of the company.
    If the policies of the company/country are sound and are properly implemented than I am sure than these temporary
    setbacks will not have any serious impact. UPA just cannot
    get away by this slow down in economy and high inflation by
    blaming Team Anna and their own coalition partners.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The policy freeze happened because babus didn’t want to take chances. Nobody was sure what would be implication of Lokpal and how it would impact their job. This kind of inertia takes a long time to break.

    Never mind it’s a small price for the great REALITY SHOW that we all had. Enjoy the show.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nice discussion with you today, going home for lunch now
    will talk to u later.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Mani Shankar Aiyar… Vinod Sharma’s gr8 pal and the man who could not detect that ISI actually exists during his tenure in Islamabad … along with Baby G and Digviansh G destroyed band India….

    Check out Mani Shankar’s outpourings and crash of investment sentiments. Check out the date fo Baby G’s entry into politics and the attacks Digvinash started on MMS and then see the graph of the UPA’s downfall.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Suhail Seth, a committed secularist, praised Modi to heaven.

    Anonymous Reply:

    There is a huge difference in allowing anyone to question her and anyone from public calling her names.

    Anonymous Reply:

    A rather taLLLLLLLL claim, without any supporting evidence.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ask anybody about Tigodia in South, he will give all the evidence.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you are referring to Praveen Togadia (Is it by design that you spelled it Tigodia?), He is the Hindu version of Many Sankat Aiyar. In fact, Aiyar has been far more virulently abusive about every Hindu leader than Togadia has been about Sonia Gandhi.

    I was referring to your second claim about recognising Modi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    One must not venture into dark alley without adequate training. Stay clear off few things in life.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sometimes you may get lost even on a highway, when lights suddenly go off, like SHinde discovered to his shame.

    Anonymous Reply:

    In the case of Sonia Gandhi, even without being told what to do (because she herself hardly knows it), congressmen love being dominated (by her).

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    Anonymous Reply:

    All these Congressmen should read the latest best seller
    Fifty shades of grey in which the author, a woman, has tried to say that women like and enjoy being dominated.

    vijay ! Reply:

    what say Pathak G?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Few months back, I talked about women looking for dominant partners. I guess you all had got scandalised.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Slowly but surely the title of “HITLER” is being snatched from Modi by Mamta didi, by sheer hard work and perseverance.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good one.

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  • Anonymous

    PM’s “Crisis Of Confidence” Speech At Iftar Party

    http://www.mediacrooks.com/2012/08/pms-crisis-of-confidence-speech-at.html
    On the evening of August
    13 at an Iftar party hosted by Ram Vilas Paswan, Prime Minister Manmohan
    Singh addressed the diners on the eve of our Independence Day. This is the
    full text of the speech to members of Congress and other secular parties who
    attended the dinner.

    MMS: “Crisis of
    confidence”

    Namaskar on the eve of the
    66 th Independence day of this great country! This is a special
    night for me. Exactly eight years ago, in May 2005, I accepted my appointment as
    Prime Minister by Smt. Sonia Gandhi. I promised you a PM who is not
    isolated from the people, who feels your pain, and who shares your dreams and
    who draws his strength and his wisdom from you.

    During the past eight years I’ve
    spoken to you on many occasions about national concerns, the energy crisis,
    reorganizing the government, our nation’s economy, and issues of terrorism and
    especially black money. But over those years the subjects of the speeches, the
    talks, and the press conferences have become increasingly narrow, focused more
    and more on what the isolated world of Delhi thinks is important. Gradually,
    you’ve heard more and more about what the government thinks or what the
    government should be doing and less and less about our nation’s hopes, our
    dreams, and our vision of the future.
    ——————-

    Read on.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Before ishwar reacts without reading the full text :

    Note:
    This is a work of fiction and imagination. The speech is
    rephrased/parodied from the ‘Crisis of Confidence’ speech by former US
    president Jimmy Carter which can be read here.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    :-) I am waiting for the link to the original.

    Is it this?
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/carter-crisis/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    yes.

    Anonymous Reply:

    PatahG,

    Not fair. You have spoiled the fun.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ha ha…I am sorry. I will remember next time. Nevertheless it’s a great piece.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mediacrooks has dished out something rather insipid, unlike their most other witty, incisive and observant posts earlier.

  • vijay !

    ——————–WHO DESTROYED THE UPA ?? ———————————–

    HERE are three familiar names.

    a) Mani Shankar AIyar, who as India’s man in Islamabad was not even ready to believe that ISI exists. Till datte he and Khuswant Singh believe that Gen Zia was a “nek and deen” (clean and religious) man.

    Mani Silencer Aiyar after failing as sports Minister launched this culture of inneundo and false accusations. His accusations of 70,000 crores looted in CWG was the beginning of the end of UPA. BY the way the total budget of CWG was about 3000 crores.

    But then having a rat inside your tent pissing on you can kill you…. !! :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He has single handedly created “Many Sankats” for MMS.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shall I copy paste your own barbs about 176 Lakh crores + 70000 crores scam from this site itself ?

    Remeber how you used dance like a water drop on a hot frying pan shouting and gloating about them !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    May I say, you are off the mark again?

    Vijay Kumar has always maintained that it was nearer to 3000 crores than 70000 crores this pest of the congress party had in the very first instance been telling the whole world.

    If Manmohan Singh had given the cleaning work to PEST Control of India, he would have saved himself and his government.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, I remember when he started changing the track. For you 180 days perhaps is the far horizon.

    Anonymous Reply:

    No, I would again say, you are off the mark by 67000 crores!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Don’t repeat it so often that even Vijay himself will hide with coy and sharam.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well if the UPA was providing the Music… I will dance.

    But on this independence day let me confess that the Telecom scam was about bribes of 3,000 crores and losses to the exchequerr of about 20,000 crores.

    THE PROBLEM IS NOBODY IN THE UPA HAS THE BALLS TO SAY THIS.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Have balls to say you always danced like a water drop on a hot frying pan making noise and spammed this site with ****.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Now you are definitely aping Many Sankats.

    vijay ! Reply:

    I have always danced with facts in my hands. People who always salute dyansic succession and hate democracy…. are afraid of it and call it **** ! :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    You yourself turned the fact upside down and dancing on your hands because the stench you always carried under your boot.

    vijay ! Reply:

    I am an acute nationalist. What is good for India is good for me. I know that there was a huge scam in telecom. But then the figure was 3000 crors rishwat and 20,000 crore losses to indians. The UPA maintained no losses no rishwat. Even Tytler and Abhsishek Varma — not major Congress players make more than 500 crores because of the UPA culture.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    you are groping for balls in the wrong places.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Check if you are left with any. Last I heard you were trying to borrow them from Ramdev’s salwar.

    vijay ! Reply:

    is this Baby G’s offensive against jethmalani’s and Ramdev’s referral to his having black money in foreign banks?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Your dear friend Shenoy thinks you have no balls.

    Take him to a side and demonstrate please.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Divide and rule is an old Congressi policy….

  • vijay !

    ———————————– JOKE OF THE DAY !! RAVI IS STILL BONKERS !! ————————————————

    Just saw Ravi / mangalam’s posting on Minhaz Merchant’s excellent blog– the Politics of riotshttp://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/headon/entry/the-politics-of-riots?

    Hamara pyaara LeT joker Ravi is releasing a lot of his gas there!! Real Nonsense, which had no takers on this site.

    here is a part of his comment.

    Sarvarkar’s ideology is inherently Islamophobic which has in turn infected and spread like the AIDS virus transiting through the RSS into all the Snagh organisations? This combined with their acute love of extreme form of Hinduism is what makes these organisations COMMUNAL. An elaborated part of their denial of this obvious fact is, to accuse those who are trying to be secular as pseudo-seculars. Using the tired old formula of “attack is the best form of defence”.

    ————————————————-

    Lage raho ravi Bhai, till people kick you from there too and despatch you back to Tora Bora !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Manohar is now active on First post

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I miss both of them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Even I miss them.

    vijay ! Reply:

    It is a shape of things for 2014. All dynasty and Congress supporters are reduced to a single digit. So is Pathak G on this site…

    Anonymous Reply:

    If Pankaj were around I would have asked him for Shatrughan Sinha kind of dialogue on my behalf.

    Let me not embarrass you on this day.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Yes… I will give you the dialogue….

    “Barkhudaar…. muh kholne se pehale yeh socha hai ki hammare paas iss bandook mein teen goliyan aur hai…. Baby G, Digvinash G aur Robert G ! “

    Anonymous Reply:

    If somebody dies on the very sight of bare bullets, one does not need a pistol to kill him.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Laathi goli khayenge
    Congress ko harayenge…

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am with you, Vijay.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Ishwar

    Main akela shur hua thaa
    Kafila badhta gaya
    Waqt guzarta raha…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ramdev needs you badly, BJP-neutral Vijay !

    Anyway they are looking for honest educated guys to stand for the election in Delhi against the Congress. please jump at this golden opportunity. I am serious.

    Anonymous Reply:

    BJP has plenty of them (honest educated guys) and Ramdev hasn’t launched a political party yet. It is the Congress which won’t be able to find such people.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am sad you don’t think Vijay to be good enough.

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Pathak G

    I would be willing to fight the election from the BJP provided you also fight from COngress….

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Pathak G

    I’d rather be the kingmaker ….THRU THIS BLOG!!

    By the way since indirectly I employ some construction workers at any given time… many a political party has approached me for support! Including INC… The rich of Delhi dont vote in elections. The workers make the difference…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Jokes apart, think of this option seriously.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well even though manohar never liked me… I would still want him to be back here….

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  • Anonymous

    What I missed in PM’s Independence speech today?

    a) No words on how he plans to rehabilitate those displaced in Assam. Would they meet the fate of Kashmiri Pandits who would have to live like refugees in their own country?

    b) No free mobile phone with 200 minutes of talk-time!!

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    vijay ! Reply:

    MObile scheme is shelved to be launched just 6 months before 2014 so that the impact stays.

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  • Anonymous

    Nitish says he won’t come back to ask for votes in next assembly elections if the govt. fails to provide electricity in all villages of the state by 2015. Well done for at least taking up a challenge that could be measured.

    Is the central govt. capable of making such claim on any issue?

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/nitish-kumar-s-promise-electricity-for-all-villages-by-2015-or-vote-us-out-255146

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He must be helped.

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  • Anonymous

    An uplifting news for a change. A story of courage and compassion.

    Something in me says if it was a man walking by, he would not have dared to rescue the two.

    http://www.telegraphindia.com/1120815/jsp/siliguri/story_15857570.jsp#.UCuGlaDhcnV

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  • Anonymous

    We just need another 15 years of good economic growth. Then these countries will shut up and make beeline at our door step.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I had a dream:
    An Indian company opened its ‘call-centre’ in a cheap labour market of UK or US. The kids there were learning the Indian accent to find a job!!

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  • Anonymous

    Why spend so much on collecting important scientific information about Mars. They can just borrow from US a much cheaper option.

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  • Anonymous

    You are lucky, there was nothing special, most of it was bragging
    UPA’s ‘achievements’.

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  • Anonymous

    Tension is when wife is pregnant!
    Terror: When girlfriend is pregnant! 
    Horror: When both are pregnant! 
    Tragedy: When you are Not responsible for both!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Certain death is when you are.

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  • Anonymous

    Jayalalitha made a rousing speech today at the independence day celebrations at Ft St George.

    She talked about the achievements of her 1 yer old government without any exaggeration.

    The highlight was her focus on growth that will uplift all; she was confident the state will achieve a growth of 11%.

    Many, including yours truly, believe we will have a 10%+ growth.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Three states which are growing and prospering have become shining examples for other states to follow. Gujarat, Bihar and Tamil Nadu.
    Incidentally all three are non UPA states.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb, you are truly fortunate to be living in Tamil Nadu.

    I too believe the lady will deliver(?). On her promises, I mean.

    Whatever it may be, she is clear in her head, clear in her diction and delivery.

    Unlike, our great PM for eight unfortunate years, MMS.

    Whose head is muddled, diction is fuddled, delivery is non-existent.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    Sonia has a bad influence on everybody. All leaders including Jayalalitha have started reading their speech .

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  • Anonymous

    A Punjabi lawyer working in UK
    wrote to his wife in India:
    Dear Sunita
    Darling,
    I can’t send you my salary this month
    because the global market crisis has affected my Company’s performance, so I am
    sending 100 kisses.
    You are my sweetheart, please understand
    and adjust with this situation.

    Your loving
    husband,
    Tuna Singh.

    His wife
    replied…

    TINKU KE
    PAPPA,

    Thanks for the 100
    kisses.
    Below is the list of expenses I paid
    with the Kisses…
    1. The Milk man agreed on 2 kisses for
    one month’s milk.
    2. The electricity man, Kool-dip Singh,
    agreed not to disconnect, only after 7
    kisses.
    3. Your landlord Kapal Singh comes
    every day to take 2 or 3 kisses, instead of the monthly rent.

    4.
    Supermarket
    owner Jaswant Singh did not accept kisses only, so I gave him other
    items, I hope you understand.

    5.
    Miscellaneous
    expenses 40 kisses.

    Please don’t worry
    about me, I still have a balance of 35 kisses and I hope I can survive the month using
    this balance.

    Shall I plan the same for the next
    month ?

    Your Sweet Heart,
    Sunita

    The moral of this story
    ……

    NEVER MESS WITH WOMEN !!!

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  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Judge: You want to divorce your husband for threatening you with a deadly weapon?
    Wife: You got me wrong your honor. I’m divorcing him for threatening me every night with a dead weapon.

    Good morning friends.

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  • Anonymous

    And Shinde will gladly and immediately accept the suggestion, because he will see his chance to become the next PM. It will also make it impossible for SOnia Gandhi to overlook Shinde’s strong claims.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Panting for breath , the Delhi Police has been running.. raiding… searching …asking…questioning…sometimes forward sometimes backward … for Gopal Kanda , the former Congress Home Minister of Haryana but are helpless in finding him. He seems to be talking to everyone his brother , his counsel, the media … but Delhi Police is so inncocent and they have not been able to locate him.They are waiting for him to exhaust all legal remedies. Is it going to be like the other Delhi Police Inquiry…. into the Fake Shanti Bhushan CD case.. which never seems to move forward tll the Court gives a lashing . And there was another big Inquiry into an “Act of High Treason” .. the leak of Gen V K Singh’s letter to PM and the Defence Minister had assured the country of the strictest action against the Offender.. that Inquiry being conducted by the IB is still going on . and on… and on

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  • devduttkumar

    Social Media like Facebook and Twitter have become tools for the flash-mobs. Countries are trying hard to prevent such occurances. Today US does virtual wire tapping practically on everybody. India too must do the same including partial censoring of the social media.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Radiagate episodes were the result of snooping by the government on our hoary media personalities!

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  • devduttkumar

    Why blame uneducated people when we have IIT Delhi educated youth leaders using such derogatory remarks against chinese girls and their own team mates during their visit to China recently.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Pathak G in IIT, I was know as a flat nose becasue of a boxing mishap. College students tease each other in the most obnoxious names.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    You do not seem to differentiate between ” IIT Delhi educated youth leaders ” and “college students” and trying to justify such obnoxious behaviour of our youth delegates.

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  • vijay !

    =============================================================
    ~~~ WHY IS THE CONGRESS SILENT ON N.E ???~~~~
    ————————————————————————————————-

    As we all expected the Congress is silent on the plight of the N.E students.

    Why?

    Why ?

    Why?

    All because it has NOT been able to find the Modi and BJP link anywhere.

    It has now sent its Mungerilals, its sewa Dal workers in the media to somewhere link this to Modi….

    But this is not happening….

    Rajdeep Sardesai tried to downplay the NE situation as too small. Sujata Anandan on HT blogs tried to get Vajpayai into it.

    Saala sab Fail…. !!!!!!!!!!!

    So COngress has gone into a maun vrat.!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think the media has become bankrupt of ideas.

    Or else, the Sanghvis, SHekhar Kapoors et al would have coined some Hitlerite descriptions to link Modi and NE India.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    I believe that Digvinash G finally found the link!

    Digvinash G to Aunty G : “N.E has n and E. Narendra has N and E. The link has been found!! The link has been found !!! >….!! “

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  • devduttkumar

    How come students in Karnataka have become the victim of rumour ?

    In a BJP ruled state where RSS and other right wing organisations are so strong, it’s difficult to believe that students from NE are running away !

    How can muslim organisations beat RSS in their own game of rumour spreading ?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    It happened in Pune first.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    It shouldn’t have happened in Karnataka.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    I know. It is a shame if it happens anywhere. Unfortunately an illegal migrant issue has been made into a Muslim issue by Owaisi and Digivinash ji.

    The rest of the Congress will pretend nothing has happened.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    I thought it was Owaisi and Advani.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Cmon Pathak G… Advani was nowhere there.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    I have a feeling you read newspapers very selectively.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well I know that the entire Congress sewa Dal in the media is trying to find the BJP link. They have been supplied Magnifying glasses and what not.

    Why can’t the COngress just tell Owais to shut up or be persecuted?

    Why can’t it jail the people who are torturing the NE students?

    Why cant it seal the borders?

    Arre baba… yeh napunsak dalalon ki sarkar hai jo divide and rule karti hai…

    devduttkumar Reply:

    When you have hindu leaders, they have muslim leaders. Things will change when you move away from hindus and they from muslims.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Pathak G

    it is not Hindu leaders vs Muslim leaders. It is about nationalists vs communal COngressis who ask for votes on religious lines.

    devduttkumar Reply:

    You are entitled to your views till you burn yourself and all others around you.

    The communal fire will not discriminate religions.

    vijay ! Reply:

    I douse the fires which the anti nationals light…

    Sharughan Sinha would say, ” Hum rakh par paani phek kar… jalti chita ko zinda kar denge…”

    devduttkumar Reply:

    You seem to have fun by trivialising serious issues. Not really worth any discussion. We are wasting each others’ time.

    vijay ! Reply:

    I never trivialize the issue. I have the guts to get into the heart of the issue without being biased for personal gain.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Where does Pathakji get all these fancy names?

    I think he had a fixation for Dev Anand.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I thought it was Pathakji and Vinodji.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Devdutt-

    Bangalore, as well as many other parts of Karnataka (Dakshin Canara, Bidar, Gulbarga, Hasan, Bijapur etc) have strong pockets of Muslims, some of them belonging to violent groups, a k a Bhatkal brothers. Jaffer Sheriff, the ex railways minister and his goondas used to organize thousands at a moment’s notice for protest march.

    So, it does not matter whether it is BJP ruled or not (although it is quite possible that the message may have come from a non-Muslim)

    Andhra is a Congress ruled state. But Owaisi can create havoc in Hyderabad.

    he has already settled 200 plus Rohanya Muslims from Mayanmar in Hyderabad – no questions asked.

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    devduttkumar Reply:

    What exactly is happening there ? Is the rumour being spread through internet?

    This event is far more serious than it appears to be. In future, anybody can create a havoc through rumours. Because we have people from different states working,studying,living in other states.

    Please provide some feedback.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The influential All Assam Students Union today held prominent minority leader and president of the All India United Democratic Front Badaruddin Ajmal responsible for the mass exodus and fear psychosis among students and persons of the Northeast.
    “There is a fear psychosis among students in the states of Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh and Maharashtra as a direct result of the communal politics played by Ajmal,” AASU advisor Samujjal Bhattacharjee alleged in a press conference here. The student body warned Ajmal “not to give communal colour to the violence in Assam” and appealed to the students not to panic and refrain from rushing back.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Badaruddin must be spreading some of his high end perfume…

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  • vijay !

    @ Gopi

    Your nightmare was about to come true today.

    Our madcap lneighbour– ravi’s country– the terror land Of Pak-shit -stan from which we THANKFULLY separated at Birth, was about to give its nuclear weapons to the Taliban.

    9 Terrorists entered their airbase where Nukes are stored… And the world could have been sent to jannat…

    This time Allah ordained that the evil Talibanis were shot dead.

    Next time these Pak-shit-stanis may well get the nukes…

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  • vijay !

    are ylu also taking part in the riots?

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  • vijay !

    Mr rao

    You seem to be a mukhtoa for a brainwashed moron from Tora bora who sees RSS everywhere. Can’t you Owaisi is instructing his gangs to spread rumours and incite Muslims to attack the NE students?

    You must be the last droplet from hafeez Saeed…and that is why you cannot see this.

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  • vijay !

    Inside the shalwar was his lover boy… Rustom-e-internet Jehad, ravi…. :)

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  • sriram

    Hindu fundoos are trying to catch up with muslim fundoos in making crude bombs and muslim fundoos are catching up with hindu fundoos using internet for spreading rumour.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hindooooo Fundooooooooos can never catch up with jihadi Muslim fundoos in a thousand years.

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  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————
    ~~~ AN APPEAL TO VINOD SHARMA ~~~
    ==============================================================

    Sir,

    As the blog master you have to listen to this appeal from the heart of us bloggers.

    You are a reknown journalist and a constant face on TV. You are also a member of the National minorities commission. Many of us out here feel that the NMC is a waste of precious national resources and ends up catering to only the whims and fancies of jehadis and Mullahas, and ends up defending the gender UNEQUAL Muslim personal law.

    . However for the good or bad, the NMC exists.

    Today the NMC has to take up the challenge of the plight of the Norht eastern people. The speeches by Owaisi targetting them and inciting the Muslims have been seen by all. The speeches by the rabble rousers and violence inciters in Mumbai have been seen by all. The violence on the youth of the North East by some (not all ) Muslims has been seen by all.

    Why are you guys in the NMC silent? Are the people of North East not a minority ? OR do you only recognise Muslims as a minority?

    Mr, Sharma, when you shave tomorrow, look inot your eyes in the mirror. Then ask yourself whether you are doing the right thing by joining the Congress in remaining silent on the Muslim atrocities on the people of the North East?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinodji,

    it is time our NCM woke up to the reality that the North Eastern Indians are a minority in the rest of India and need to besafeguarded at all costs.

    The Owaisi of this country need to be silenced once for all. Or else there won’t be NCMs, NHRCs the courts or even parliaments.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    When the BJP the principal Opposition Party in the country raised the Assam crisis , the acute secularists including the fake ones like the Congress , immediately responded by saying that whereas the issue is ethnic , the BJP is making it communal. Now that the Muslims in Pune , Mumbai , Bangalore, Hyderabad including their leaders like Owaisi are openly attacking the NE people , they are silent and obfuscating. Such shameless hypocracy is nothing new . Vijay to expect the NMC and the politically partisan Vinod Sharma to take up this issue is going to be a call in wilderness, because intervention on behalf of the the illegals of Bangladesh is fraught with dangers for its government in Assam , and the linguistic minorities of the NE will not get its protection , because between the two the Muslims constitute a much larger nationwide vote-bank.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This vote bank politics has done huge damage to our country and looking at the current events, i am scared to think that if not controlled immediately and decisively this may spread all over the country.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    The Congress leadership does not have the courage to stop this. They are only geared to get Baby G into the hot seat.

    vijay ! Reply:

    I hope Vinod Sharma has a battle going on in-his conscience. On one side is the possibilty of the Rajya Sabha seat by supporting the COngrewss and its pampering of Muslim communalism and Muslim fanatics. On the other side is the plight of the North East people who are being pushed back and will now get more alienated from India.

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  • Anonymous

    his one is for Pathakji.

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  • Anonymous

    Diapers and politicians shoud be changed often, both for the same reason.

    Good late morning friends.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But politicians like Sanjay Nirupam can be re-used elsewhere.

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  • sriram

    Mischief potential of social media in full play

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/article3781473.ece

    The surprise entrant in this war of propaganda was Tejinder Pal Singh
    Bagga’s Bhagat Singh Kranti Sena. On Facebook, the Sena claimed that a
    fatwa had been issued to people from the northeast to leave Bangalore by
    August 20 or face riots. Another post warned of counter-violence, if
    these communities were threatened, in Delhi.

    =====

    After all it’s not only the muslim fundoos spreading this vicious rumour !

    We are our own enemy !!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You may be your own enemy, if you are trying to defend the Owaisis and Badruddins. There is a fatwa for the North eastern Indians to leave all major cities like Mumbai, Pune, Bangalore, Chennai, Hyderabad etc.

    If you want to behave like an Ostrich, it is your choice, but your kind of secularism will no more deceive our countrymen.

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    sriram Reply:

    Who issued this fatwa ? We are yet to see any news report on this ! You have seen this or your friend’s friend told you on the facebook ? So far it’s been a rumour. We must know who is the source of this rumour. The educated class must not be part of a vicious rumour.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It is interesting that in the entire article, you only found a line on Tejinder Pal Singh worth quoting.

    let me hold the following up to you for ruminating over:

    In mid-July this year, a Pakistani news portal, columnpk.com, carried an image of Buddhist monks wearing masks amid a sea of mutilated bodies. It turned out that the image was of the July 2010 earthquake in Tibet where the monks were engaged in relief work.But the portal carried the image with the tag “The body of Muslims slaughtered by Buddhist Barma [Myanmar].” By the time protests from the Tibetan groups forced the portal to withdraw the image, the damage was ostensibly done.The image went viral on the Internet and two weeks ago it found its way into the pages of a local Urdu newspaper, which also passed it off as proof of Muslim persecution in Myanmar. This image, along with a copy of the Urdu periodical, was presented to the Karnataka government as part of a dossier submitted by the northeast groups here on Thursday. There were emails and text messages calling on people to avenge the deaths in Assam and Myanmar.Text messages played a particularly vicious role. A staccato SMS in Hindi sent to a Nagaland girl by her landlord’s help read: “Madam, do not get out of your house. There is lot of panga [trouble]. People from your caste [community] are being beaten. Seven women have been killed in Yelahanka [a suburb of Bangalore]. Don’t go to college tomorrow. I am only trying to help.”There were several similar messages that claimed that people had been killed, raped and assaulted.

    sriram Reply:

    You have not yet answered who issued this fatwa that you talked about. Are you, by any chance, becoming an integral part of this rumour spreading mill ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Actually, going by the postings here – he is not alone.
    He is well flanked by Mr. Vijay Kumar and Mr. Saxena.
    Here are a few samples ….

    Vijay Kumar said :
    “Then ask yourself whether you are doing the right thing by joining the Congress in remaining silent on the Muslim atrocities on the people of the North East?”

    Mr. Saxena said :
    “Now that the Muslims in Pune , Mumbai , Bangalore, Hyderabad including their leaders like Owaisi are openly attacking the NE people , they are silent and obfuscating.”

    Somewhere below you addressed these folks as educated. You were way off the mark then. These guys are just literates. With special interest in spreading rumours and inciting communal passions. Notice the glee with which they are trying to turn the whole issue into Hindu-Muslim issue.

    Another thing – about the rumours ….. available information indicates well planned campaign targetting the people in North-Eastern states. A few more hordes of frustrated and angry people returning to their homes in these states will just about create perfect conditions for lighting the communal flame.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Those who are fleeing for their lives are ” hordes of frustrated and angry people returning to their homes “…. a educative post… not on the issue ..but on those who have written on the issue.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Actually – yours was more educative. Especially the point where you alluded with glee about scores of Muslims ganging up against people from NE in those cities.
    To be fair, I can understand your dis-appointment about these threats just being rumours.

    Anonymous Reply:

    There is another story in Hindu which says:

    One of the Muslim leaders read out an SMS — said to have originated from a group called Bhagat Singh Kranti Sena — which was spooking the northeast communities asking them to be careful since there was a threat to their safety.

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/article3781275.ece

    Who has concluded that the SMS originated from BSKS?

    ———————————————————————–

    This is a Twitter post from:
    Tajinder Pal S Bagga ‏@tajinderbagga
    We challenge to The Hindu,show the single Threat SMS by us,why are you waiting. You dont want culprit’s behind the bar’s ?? Done any deal ??

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    sriram Reply:

    Is this muslim leader now well identified ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    No.
    Why is Hindu publishing such stories without verifying its facts?

    sriram Reply:

    That’s unprofessional. Everybody seems to be fueling the rumour.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hindu, especially after the sekular sekular foreign returned Varadarajan has taken over as the editor, has sunk further with appeasement as their aim to increase circulation.

    It is no more a paper of repute – there was a time when it was the New York times of india. For that matter, I wonder whether there is any news paper here in india that can be a reference. Even vernacular papers have gone rogue. Malayala Manorama here, owned by the Mamman Mappilai family, used to have sterling reputation – not any more . Same thing – foreign educated heirs charting new profit routes.

  • Anonymous

    From DailyMail:
    Mumbai police commissioner Arup Patnaik has landed himself in a controversy after a video emerged purportedly showing him berating his junior officer for nabbing a person suspected to be involved in Saturday’s riots.

    In the video uploaded on YouTube, Patnaik is heard telling deputy commissioner of police Ravindra Shisve after the latter caught an alleged rioter, “Tumhala kon hyala pakdayala sangitla (Who has told you to catch him?)” Patnaik then threatens to have the DCP suspended.

    ‘You take directions from the commissioner. You are not SP (of) Sangli, you are DCP here. You will not fall out of line, (else) you will be suspended, stupid,’ he told Shisve.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/indianews/article-2189016/Mumbai-cops-YouTube-trouble.html#ixzz23n6b0FNq

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    sriram Reply:

    So far he has not shown any bias. He has been professional throughout his career. He has a reputation. We may wait for more details.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If the above report/story is true, it is a very dangerous sign. If the rioters sense that they couldn’t be touched because of political reasons, the consequences could be potentially too dangerous.

    Already, the Delhi Police is unable to arrest either the Shahi Imam or Kanda. Both have NBW against them.

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    sriram Reply:

    i read the article. It says the first priority was to disperse the rioters. It has some merit. At that point, the priority must be to break the concentration of the rioters than do something which would bring the mob close.

    Anonymous Reply:

    F*** this logic. What signal does it send?

    We can’t touch some people. Are we too weak?

    sriram Reply:

    It’s not about touching people. The first action must be to control, then catch. The catching is usually done when the major part of the mob is on the run.Every job has its own SOP.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I see your point. Now, that the mob has been dispersed, have we managed to arrest any of the rabble-rousing leaders present (not ground soldiers who could be a rickshaw-puller, a cobbler or daily wage earner). If not why?

    sriram Reply:

    I guess we have lots of video and camera footage. I am sure they will not let these guys go scot free.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The sooner the better. BTW, was this (Hyderabadi) Owaisi also a part of the protest meeting/march in Mumbai?

    sriram Reply:

    Was he? i am not sure.

    BTW did you, by any chance, receive any SMS or message on your facebook regarding this fatwa?

    Anonymous Reply:

    The march definitely was abetted by Owaisi statement in the Parliament about an impending “third” violence by Muslims if they are not cared for in Assam. I do not think he was personally present.

    There was a column about him organizing a new all India Muslim party, combining state parties such as his MMP, Ajmals party in Assam, Muslim league in kerala. .

    Anonymous Reply:

    Why are you certain they “will not let these guys go scot free”..

    This is your – Manohar’s- democracy!

    sriram Reply:

    If you don’t really like democracy, you may migrate to the middle-east. Nobody will stop you.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Pathak G is that you in a new disguise?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Possibly Manohar. I may be wrong.

    Anonymous Reply:

    More plausible, because Pathakji has already has more pseudonyms than Sonia Gandhi and Baby G combined.

  • Anonymous

    There was an empress Victoria; and now a new empress for India

    http://www.francoisgautier.com/en/the-empress-of-india

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  • Anonymous

    Dr MMS has threatened severe action on MMS rumour senders.

    Now that he has spoken the exodus of NE people will stop!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He wants to prove that he is not the author of those messages.

    Our illiterate Muslims will believe anything, as long as it shows Muslims being butchered and raped.

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  • vijay !

    @ Mahesh

    Thank you for remembering me and Praveen. As I had expected you had somehow blamed me and Praveen Saxena for the exodus of the NE youth. Great inference! James Bond has become jamshed Bandhopahya in disguise…

    Brother for once see the truth and not the make belief fiction you apparently concoct.

    1) The North East tragedy resulted out of the illegal migration from Bangladesh into India leading to capture of land of the Assamese and the Bodos. Surely the COngress and you never saw this :)

    2) Badruddin and Owaisi made patently communal speeches and converted this into a Muslim vs North East issue. Of course you are too literate to see this. And so is the COngress.

    3) A Muslim crowd gathered in Mumbai and were made to listen to grossly inflammatory speeches by their COMMUNAL leaders. Our dunce Congress Home Minister was dumb founded. Rioting and arson took place. But being Mahesh Mumbaikar you probably were at the Jazz by the Bay… enjoying yourself and imagning that BJP and Modi were behind this.

    4) The SMS’s and MMS’s to Muslim youth incited them to attack chinkis and North Easterners. But as the COngres derives its support from pandering to Muslim communalism you and the COngressis probably believe that Mossad is behind this.

    COngratulations for being so literate… :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Brother Vijay,
    Glad that you responded.
    You said :
    “1) The North East tragedy resulted out of the illegal migration from Bangladesh into India leading to capture of land of the Assamese and the Bodos. Surely the COngress and you never saw this :)
    Wonderful. How are me and congress related to each other ? And what has that got to do with the sweeping conclusions you have drawn about those SMSes.
    “2) Badruddin and Owaisi made patently communal speeches and converted this into a Muslim vs North East issue. Of course you are too literate to see this. And so is the COngress.”
    Are you not trying to outdo those who made the issue so ?
    “3) A Muslim crowd gathered in Mumbai and were made to listen to grossly inflammatory speeches by their COMMUNAL leaders. Our dunce Congress Home Minister was dumb founded. Rioting and arson took place. But being Mahesh Mumbaikar you probably were at the Jazz by the Bay… enjoying yourself and imagning that BJP and Modi were behind this.”
    You are actually correct. Rather than go out to the streets with Saffron flag and screaming “Hindutva khatre mein hai”, I sat back home allowed Police to do their work. Guess what – most of the Mumbaikars like (incidentally , those included Muslims too) did the same. As for Mr. Modi and BJP – irrespective of whether they were involved , it is indeed getting difficult for them to hide their glee at situation acquiring communal colours.
    “4) The SMS’s and MMS’s to Muslim youth incited them to attack chinkis and North Easterners. But as the COngres derives its support from pandering to Muslim communalism you and the COngressis probably believe that Mossad is behind this.”
    Brother Vijay – do yourself a favour. Ask any person to read this point and articulate what you mean here. Once done – post it. That way it will be easy for us to discuss.

    And BTW, what about this statement of yours ?
    “Now that the Muslims in Pune , Mumbai , Bangalore, Hyderabad including their leaders like Owaisi are openly attacking the NE people , they are silent and obfuscating.” .
    Do you still want to defend it ? Try not to jump around like Jitendra in those South Indian remake bollywood films.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Thank you innocent brother Mahesh,

    With your conclusions I am sure with your detective powers I can say that If Sherlock Holmes was the ace detective of Baker street, you surely are Shermbaji Holmekar the the ace detective of Marine Drive.

    If you feel I can dance like Jeetendra I will surely show this line to my girlfriend who tells me I have stepped a thousand time on her feet while dancing… :)

    a) I feel you and Congress are related as you tow the COngress line, even when it is leading the country to a disaster.

    b) I cannot outdo Owais and Badruddin becasue I make speeches for joining India and not splitting it as those two trolls do in the name of special minority rights

    c) Of course many Muslims and most Mumbaikars wanted the rioters to be punished, but it seems that the Central government and the Home Minister do not want it so.

    d) The COngress is not willing to stop and persecute the people who are sending the SMS’s as they feel that they can derive more votes by making the Muslims feel persecuted and also that the votes of the North Easterners are less then that of Muslims voting as an agreived minority.

    My replies are lucid in my eyes. But then you may say that they are confusing… :)

    That is life.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,
    What has all of this got to do with my original question ?

    vijay ! Reply:

    I told you that you will get confused. From my side, I have answered all your questions point wise.

    By the way during Engineering , I earned pocket money by doing tutions of school children. I was rather famous with school kids for an ability to put complex things in simple language.

    Don’t worry. COme to Delhi. I would love to share a beer with you someday. :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    you must make allowances for the de-freezing Mahesh is passing through from his long hibernation.

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    Mahesh is the pal… who I never had ! When he was not around I missed him. He calls me Jeetendra in white shoes…
    Jumping around with hema Malini

    I think I am too young for Hemaji… and Easha too has hooked on. Well for me… Mahesh from Mumbai is not Raj Thakrey… not leftist like Amol Palekar… but mindbending Mahesh…. :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, I agree.

    You may argue with him, you may call him names, you may badger him with arguments, but you can’t stop loving him.

    Long time back, I too had told him that I love him.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Yes… Mahesh is the human face of the left movement….and the anti establishment movement…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ohh, a “pyara” me !!! :-)

    vijay ! Reply:

    :)

    Remember we had some gr8 debates once….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Amen !!!

    vijay ! Reply:

    Thumbs up!! Let that spirit continue… even if we are on the opposing ends…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sure.BTW, with jitendra it was Sri-devi who co-starred frequently in the “Tohfa” and “Himmatwala” genre and not Hema Malini.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Sri Devi… is with Boney now. Ands what I saw of her on the Aamir Khan show… well been botoxed… But yes… she was the flame of my heart in engineering and the poster of my room… on which many an engineering student….. well to put it politely…..

    Shit! there is no polite word word for that..!

  • Anonymous

    OK, now for this.

    Activists of the Womens Separatist Group in Kashmir, Dukhtaran-E- Milat (where the fru-k they get these names) staged a protest march today (of course after the Friday prayers) against the alleged massacre of Muslims in Mayanmar. Aisia Amtabi, the leader said “the Muslim world is watching the massacre as mute spectators. The rulers of these countries have been stooges of the west”.
    She offered shelter to the Mayanmese “let them come to Kashmir. We we will throw our homes open to them”

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    vijay ! Reply:

    you and me cannot go to Kashmir. The COngressis support the section370 which bans Indians from buying land there. Oh yes… Burmese Muslims are welcome in the name of fake secularism.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Actually all these “homes” she calls ‘our homes’ are the properties forcibly snatched from fleeing Kashmiri Pandits! So she can house these Bangladeshi refugees!!!!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy

    She is opening doors not for Assamese, but for Mayanmarese

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Fake victim hood complex has been created in Muslims. Shoeb gave me a link to a blog… I think his own… anInidanmuslim.com . Which talks sense.

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  • Anonymous

    The “reverse” migration issue, such as the north easterners going back to their home states, brings a totally new dangerous and destructive element in our already corrosive polity.

    A Chinese political scientist published an article a few years ago about how easy it is to balkanize India. In fact he suggested the Chinese govt should pursue the tactics he outlined when the opportune time arises in the Chinese interest.

    Whether Chinese or extreme Muslims or extreme Hindus or whoever for fun did this SMS messaging, it really has exposed a new, ugly, far more dangerous strain than the tarditional religious riots.

    There were several “reverse” pushes in our post independence history. They were all economic issues, and none violent, and none really causing people to move back to their home states.

    Karunanidhi started a “malayalathan ozhikai ” ( Malayalees move out) in the 60s. That was more to build his party, takinga way from congress. No panic trip of Malayalees to the central station to catch the next train to Kochi or Kozhikode..

    Thackrey’s program of “Mumbai for Mumbaiites” also did not make anybody run to Victoria Terminus.

    But this one is dangerous. Unfortunately, the facial feautures of NEs make them an easy target to segregate.

    But if you look deep there is always easy ways of segregation and packaging. Our fathers did that in 1947; Nazis did it in 1940-44, some of the Pakistanis do everyday, and just last week somebody did it to Sikhs in USA in a mistaken identity.

    And this is happening in a time when we are bereft of any national leaders (may be Anna). Well, the corollary is that it would not have happened if we had leaders – not the criminals and looters (of all parties) leading us.

    This is a bad mix – deteriorating economy, despair and dislocation, politicians running to relocate Rohatyan Mayanmari Muslims without considering the situation of the Assamese etc. Things can really get out of control.

    I thought we had only three key challenges to wrestle with from a political leadership perspective – the skill mix issue (an affluent high skill populace, a stagnant large low skill segment, how to move low skill segment to medium skill, the native/tribal development/integration, and the occasional Hindu-Muslim issue.

    Now we have one more; potentially more dangerous than the three above. Because we thought we solved the integartion of states to the union!

    Sardar Patel must be turning on in his grave!

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Gopi

    During a recent visit to CHina… I was forced to admit that they have evolved a good system where they never talked about different religious or regional identities.

    Out there..,, a Mamta would have been forcibly removed, the CPM banned and Owaisi hanged. The Maruti strike would have never happened and kickback takers like Raja shot dead.

    I am no lover of totalitarian systems. But the more I see of Indian police and justice system…. as I am seeing recently, I only get more depressed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    you are absolutely, absolutely right about Karunanidhi and Bal Thakre.

    You said, “Thackrey’s program of “Mumbai for Mumbaiites” also did not make anybody run to Victoria Terminus.”

    Actually, I was caught in one of the riotous situations, when I had gone to Bombay and when our train reached VT, it was 8PM and the whole station was empty!

    I think that was the only occasion in history when Victoria Terminus had no human beings!!!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Several things here.
    First the people from North East……..
    Rest assured – they will come back . Actually, as a fallout of current chaos, we will start seeing people getting more sensitised towards North-Easterners.
    Second , those SMSes…
    Notice here a striking feature. The targets of these messages were very much accurately chosen with good deal of homework and planning. More than anything else, this looks like drill for assessing the responses. Clearly, in the process , the perpetrators have gained more than they expected.
    Third, you missed something hugely important. Climate variability. Trust me , it is going to be really really ugly and savage until next monsoon (assuming the next monsoon . is a good one).
    Fourth , Thackeray….
    You are way too charitable to him. He was far venal and vicious in his both (As a communal politician and Marathi chauvinist).
    Fifth , challenges…..
    IMHO, Market integration (access to Market and equitable distribution of gains from Markets ) still pose Biggest challenge . Actually, un-even development and co-relatedly un-even access to Markets paint a fuller picture.
    BTW, what is wrong with states based on linguistic division ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    Agree with you that these crises will make people of India sensitive to North Eastern Indians. At least something good will come out of this.
    I didn’t understand properly what you were trying to say about market integration.

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  • vijay !

    Bye everyone ! For now !!

    As always this blog got the life back into me. Had a tough day tackling the sold out police who were determined to hand over the property of a NRI friend to the land mafia based on fake papers.

    As always interaction with friends… got the life back into me. I was pretty depressed seeing the police in action. If you are poor and CONTACTless you are bound to be screwed in India.

    Wish this could change.

    Anyway interacting with all you guys… including Mahesh ( Its Eddie and Ravan) got the life back into me.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But the total absence of Vinodji, Pathakji, Devdutt Kumar Sharma, etc particularly when the South of India is on fire ignited by Islamo-fundoos, is a big dampener.

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  • Anonymous

    20 shiites pulled from the bus and shot dead in Northern Pkistan.

    Do you know why it was easy for them to segregate Shias in that region? because most of the Shias in that region are TAjiks and uzbeks origin; with different facial features.

    http://dawn.com/2012/08/16/several-forced-off-buses-killed-in-northern-pakistan/

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    vijay ! Reply:

    ad ! Sad !! Seems that the search for the purest Muslim and purest form of islam is going to result in more killings of innocents. Shias may now want to migrate to India from ravi’s pure land.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    All Pakistani leaders should join together in a conference and declare that Zia was the only pure Muslim and nobody else will be treated as equal to Zia and put an end to this search for the purest.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I read this news yesterday. In Pakistan everyone will kill each other.

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  • Anonymous

    Today at the end od 29th day of Rmadhan,
    Moon was not sighted by the Moon sighting committee. One more day of fasting here. Eid will be celebrated on Sunday 19th Aug. in this part of the world.

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  • Anonymous

    ehtasham

    not so fast.

    Mangalore is a hub of extremist Muslims (agree there is fringe like Ram Sena; but money, power, and violence triggering in Mangalore is with Muslims – they also perpetuate violence in KAsaragode, 50 miles from my house) Daskhin Canara and Bhatkal are not far away..

    Same thing with Bangalore.. Jaffer Sheriff can bring 10,000 for a march at short notice. Ask Shenoy

    So let us not blame Sangh Parivar for the Assamese and the spillover situation

    Agree with you that the problem is quite serious. But let us not blame the wrong party. Let us solve it.

    Any violence is bad; it is a bad mark on the country.. and it will be Muslims who will bear the brunt if a nationwide violence erupts- it is just a law of statistics. I hope peace will prevail, good spirits will prevail.

    And I do not believe you attended Advani’s independence day party. You wish you did. (Advani is not my hero; I have all along said he should just retire)

    “good example by Musl;im group in Pune…” That is good…Why dis Raza group ask for a protest march against the atrocities in Mynmar? And that too during these holy Ramzan days? Why should India bother if Bangla Desh does not bother? When are Muslims stopping these frucked up marches for troubles in distant lands?

    I hope blood does not flow. But if it does, blame it on Owaisis and Raza academy, and not on Advani, although he is a favorite punching bag of Msulims and secularists

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  • vijay !

    Ehtsham Khan is a possible communal rioter.

    His posting below shows how a communal rioter first tries to shift the blame from Raza academy and owaisi to BJP and then has no mention of the MUmbai rioting and the violence on North east students.

    Digviansh and Baby G are silent these days in times of emergency.

    But they will now float some idiotic stories thru these ehtshams and teestas to drag BJP and Modi into this..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    It is a national emergency; with the movement/dislocation of the NE people from Banaglore, hyderaabd, chennai, and a few hours ago from Goa.

    It is even sadder that the national government is sitting quiet other than the “threat” by MMS yesterday that any MSM sender will be prosecuted..

    DV Singh and Baby G can be silent because in a sense they do not have any role in the government. Where are the PM, HM, state CMs, bureaucrats, police IGs/

    And we say Mary Kom brought recognition for India. The brothers and sisters of Mary Kom are being thrashed just because our government could not protect borders; not only that they could not protect borders, they also gave ration cards and citizenship and land; land taken away from the indigenous people; all for vote bank. The country is reaping what it sow.

    I read an article by Asghar Engineer that for the last few weeks Mullahs have been preaching about the violence in Mayanmar and Assam; they have been showing false pictures of the Budhist monks with the dead bodies of some other people (whom the Mullahs projected as Mayanmaris) . He said Raza academy knew about this and they knew very well that a march would end in violence because of the prepping done by Mullahs during the Friday sermons.

    Ishwar reported a youtube of the police commissiioner of Mumbai scolding an underling for arresting a Muslim troublemaker during the march. Why should not we arrest the trouble maker? Which minister is the Commissioner afraid of?

    Do you think

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    Yesterday you had posted a link to an article about Empress Sonia. – Great article- . According to that nobody has any power or courage in Congress to say or do anything without her approval.
    In this case also everyone, from PM to HM to CM are waiting to get instructions from SoniaG to give any statement. Meanwhile let the country burn, who cares.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Khilafat movement II is silently approved by the Gandhi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Raza Academy is a fit case for banning and closure.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What is this academy all about ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    A Sunni organization of Indian Muslims that aims to promote Islamic Sufi Culture through publications and research works.

    This is what it claims to be.

    The real Raza Academy is a fundamentalist organisation that treies to brainwash impressionable minds with all kinds of anti-national ideas.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The NGO’s with religious slant are becoming nuisance.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I couldn’t agree with you more.

    All NGOs with any connection or association to any religion or sect, must be kept on permanent watch list by the central and state governments, irrespective of whether they are HIndu, Muslim or Christian.

    We have had enough of all these “movements”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I whole heartedly concur with you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Where is Ehtsham Khan’s posting or link ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Go down few posts you will find it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Got it.

    I must say I was surprised by the length,breadth, depth and intensity of this rumour.

    1) This guy ( khan ) has not explained the existence of morphed posters in Raza academy’s prayer meeting.

    2) Vijay could also be right if he thinks no party cadre reacts to Advani’s fiery speech these days and it has no impact on BJP trolls.

    3) In one of the post addressed to me Shenoy said the muslim auto drivers sent out the SMS’s. I wonder if passengers in Bangalore register their mobile numbers before boarding the autos ! How else these drivers found the numbers of NE students ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    yesterday, I gave you the core agenda of the SMS-MMS peddlars.

    I am fully aware that you have your constraints commenting on them. Others have asked what the NCM can do to stop this harassment of the NEI minorities in the South.

    Care to throw some light on them?

    Anonymous Reply:

    As usual, you are looking for answers at wrong place. For NCM, you need to talk to Vinodji.

  • Anonymous

    Sex is now classified as misdemeanor. The more you miss the meaner you get.

    Good morning friends.

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  • Anonymous

    The Khilafat movement started as a political protest campaign launched by Muslims in India to influence the British government and to protect the Ottoman Empire. Now we see protests in India in support of Myanmar Muslims. Violence followed the start of Khilafat movement and now here also we are witnessing violence at many places. Maybe I am going overboard but I see some similarities in both.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes. Sometimes neighbour’s wife smiles exactly like your wife. Or, you find your wife’s smile in her smile. One goes overboard at weak moments or find justification of one’s action.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    one shouldn’t go by a woman’s smiles, even if the woman is the neighbour’s wife.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    We just forget and lose all our common sense at critical moments.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You should never be a critic, because critical times are big let downs.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ha ha..well said. Though never for me. My critical faculties are well in order.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I hope along with critical faculties your ‘ other faculties’ are also in perfect order.

    RSadu Reply:

    Jitendra’s thirty plus,
    works well for pathak’s blush.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Not yet.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Works just fine. I lose sleep for good reasons.

    Anonymous Reply:

    My neighbours wife sometimes does smile like my wife but the problem is that her all conversations with me start with ‘ Bhai saab’, so there are no chances of weak moments at least in this case.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    For your weak moments, you found similarity and did not feel guilty towards your wife. Though I can see huge disappointment in you. Is she young and sultry ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I said since she starts all her conversations with ‘ Bhai Saab ‘ so there are no chance of weak moments and I don’t have to feel guilty towards my wife. Kya karoon, I believe in old values and I respect the sanctity of the word and relation
    Bhai.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Both movements are having encouragement from a Gandhi.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Almost a country-wide mobilization of the Muslim brothers against the brothers of the NE. Are the fires in Assam going to be doused this way ?

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  • Anonymous

    Guwahati is burning in the North East
    Chennai is seething in the South East
    Muslims are preparing for Ramzan feast
    some are also feeding the jihadi beast.

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    RSadu Reply:

    Vanar Sena worked on double whispering into neighbour’s ear,
    drove poor kids out of homes and karnataka border;
    ‘deja vu, fait accompli ‘ the trolls can’t hide their glee,
    when NE kids fear and flee.

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  • vijay !

    ————- MOB VIOLENCE IN NAME OF ISLAM IN LUCKNOW NOW————–

    The Congress sewa Dal workers in the media are somhow trying to link this to BJP and Modi. But bloody hell…

    See the truth first my blind friends.

    Thre are reports of violence in Lucknow on the pattern of Azad maidan. Buddhists have been attacked as the population of Burma is Buddhist.

    Sad … very sad.

    Vinod Sharma is silent. PATHAK g INVOKED aDVANI MANY A TIME. And Digvinash and Baby G are saying

    ” north East = N. E. … and narendra modi has N and E in his name… the link has been found !! “

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    Quite sad.

    The first priority is to ensure the NEs that it is safe for them in Pune, Chennai, Lucknow or wherever.

    It makes me sad and mad that the Muslim leaders who march for the people of Mayanmar (whether Muslims sent SMS or not) have not appealed to NEs not to flee.

    Some of the Muslim organizations justified the Raza march (not the violence) on the fact that GOI protested against the killings of 7 Saradrjis in a US gurudwara , while keeping mum on the Burmese killings! The reason he media people were beaten up, they say, was due to non-coverage of Mayanmar and Assamese Muslim situation while covering the Gurudwara shootings extensively.

    Only in India!

    But whatever and whoever is behind these, these reverse migrations should be stopped and prevented. In a way we can be butts of joke fora country where its citizens are not safe to live in various parts, while foreigners, ie Bangla Deshis, can run over the locals with govt encouragement.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ahhhhh ! You missed Bangalore from your elaborate list !!!
    Ouch !!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Bangalore is covered under ‘wherever’., but as my post above shows, Bangalore has already bucked the trend.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, how discerning and noble !

    You also missed Bangalore in your great poem below. You two definitely work in tandem ! Perhaps your poem was his inspiration.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I only said ‘Chennai is seething’. If you are not aware, Bangalore is always cool. Inspite of the best efforts of Deve Gowda and his Islamic fundoo friends’ harkatein’, the city is relaxed and enjoying the occasional rains, the thermometer showing 26 degrees.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Coming close on the heals of Bareilly communal riots, this news is very alarming. The most disconcerting aspect is that the police are said to have merely watched vandals destroying public property.

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  • Anonymous

    Ehtisham Khan has written his same post on another website.
    In on of the reply to another blogger he has posted ‘ this is because india is ruled by evil brhmns.their thurst for human blood is never quinched.humanity has to fight these evil forces to survive.’
    Sounds familliar?

    You can all conclude his intentions
    .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Brhmnst, Zionst consp[iracy?

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  • Anonymous

    Karnmataka police receive alround praise for the exemplary manner they handled the NEI Exodus. The exodus is now only a trickle, which will stop soon.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    By arranging 20000 railway tickets ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It is a central government’s saazish to arrange from nowhere special trains, as if they got an urgent SOS from Raza Academy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ask friends from Bihar how fast special trains are arranged during Chhat break.

    Anonymous Reply:

    no connection between the two.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The response from the railways has always been quick. For decades the Railways have risen to the occasion. Only a sick mind can blame Railways for their quick response.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is the central ministers and their lackeys in the media who are sick in their minds. The arrangeent for the special trains was done with lightening speed.

  • Anonymous

    Eid (today, tomorrow, Monday) can potentially be a violent day across various parts of India.
    Bukhari speech may trigger violence; an innocent prank by a muslim/hindu/others can trigger, or a deliberate action by a Muslim/Hindu/others can trigger. be vigilant. Let us pray for peace.

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  • Anonymous

    North Easterners in Bangalore fall prey to rumour
    The Islamic fiends are vicious, severely lack humour
    some among them even suffer from brain tumour
    they consider Islamic Jihad as their armour.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    good one

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    RSadu Reply:

    Take a mridangam and play it hard,
    why shy with two words when you can tango with a ******.

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    RSadu Reply:

    When your families run for their lives,
    find humour in their plight and your jibes;
    veins must ‘ve passed through some gutter,
    when a man finds humour in fear of man-slaughter.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You seem to be approving of jihadi terror.

    Just curious, Mr. Sadu, where else are you blogging and since when?

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    RSadu Reply:

    Terror comes in many a package,
    Some sweet, some innocent only leave wreckage.

    Debris fly high and thick,
    no surnames for you to pick.

    Don’t look for who and why,
    feel only for human cry.

  • Anonymous

    Condemn them.

    http://www.mid-day.com/news/2012/aug/180812-mumbai-Condemn-them.htm

    A Muslim organisation says the recent violence at Azad Maidan
    needs to be slammed in the strongest possible terms; wants Muslim leaders to
    answer, makes a plea for responsible reporting and keeping the city’s strained
    secular fabric from tearing

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    RSadu Reply:

    Facebook is a sharp knife,
    a doctor use it save whilst punks take lives.

    Facebook collates brothers,
    who find humour in man-slaughter.

    Facebook find friends,
    who value friendship over humanity in the end.

    How do we see our face in the mirror,
    humanity dies every moment, cheap brotherhood comes fore.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A nice one. Little curious – You a doctor or a punk ?

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    RSadu Reply:

    Neither a doctor nor a punk,
    disgusted a man who’s sorrow drunk.

    Anonymous Reply:

    disusted or disguised?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Or disgusting disguise?

    RSadu Reply:

    Be aware of the disgusted men,
    for they leave no clue and hit without siren.

    ===
    It wasn’t meant for you,
    sorry for the mistake and it’s my rue.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Naam Sadu, kaam Shaitan ka.

    RSadu Reply:

    Devil in a man blows through throat,
    when devils in street run amok and gloat.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Now what should I do ? Should I get scared of your warnings to harm me ?

    RSadu Reply:

    Fear if you are a devil,
    someday somebody will go for a kill.

    Think if you a man of conscience,
    trust not in religion, but in science.

    Spread healing touch like an angel,
    Live in many hearts, not like a scoundrel.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sermonising me to spread healing touch like an angle, but

    you want to blow through people’s throat.
    I am sure you would have heard this : Practice what your preach.

    RSadu Reply:

    Read with a little patience,
    in a blink you missed the essence.

    They moderated when I tried to explain,
    my verse was as simple as a plain Jane.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sadu of engrich as in fake Ravi+engrich

    Anonymous Reply:

    Poorly disguised duplicate, reminiscent of earlier fakes, Mona Sardar Ravi Inder Singh, engrich, Ram ZSevak, Ram Kewal, Ram Bharose etc.

    Sure to face ignominious death.

    RSadu Reply:

    Be aware of the disgusted men,
    for they leave no clue and hit without siren.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Besides poor rhyming, the attack on facebook is utterly irresponsible and uncalled for. What is needed is a permanent ban on bulk SMSing and ban on certain web sites which encourage jihadi extremism.

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    RSadu Reply:

    You hum without reason or rhyme,
    threw your brain in the bin for a dime.

    Every extreme man must face the music,
    for belittling and playing with human psych.

    Do your bit with an earnest feeling,
    don’t muddle when your mobiles ring.

  • Anonymous

    How Pakistani site incited Muslims in India against North Easterners.

    http://www.niticentral.com/2012/08/how-pakistani-site-incited-muslims-in-india.html

    The rumour-mongering and resultant panic among northeasterners living in
    Bangalore, Mysore and other cities of Karnataka and in other States began in
    mid-July after a Pakistani website, of which nobody seems to have had heard of
    till then, posted a picture of Buddhist monks supervising the burial of Tibetans
    killed in the devastating earthquake that hit Tibet in April 2010. The picture
    was luridly described as showing “Buddhist monks with the bodies of Rohingya
    Muslims killed by Buddhists in Burma”.
    Within days, the photograph with its provocative caption went viral,
    appearing on the front pages of Urdu newspapers in Pakistan and getting
    re-posted on several Islamic websites and blogs which claimed the picture was
    ‘evidence’ of Rohingyas being massacred by Buddhists in Burma.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    All these sadus, engriches, fake Ravis have succeeded in scaring the North Easterners away from Bangalore.

    Now Tarun Gogoi says, all of you go back to Bangalore. There is nothing foryou here, I will give free passage (Railway ministry is with congress, you see!), go back from the platform itself.

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    RSadu Reply:

    Scared people to death for a petty gain,
    still playing with fire without disdain.

    wake up before it’s too late,
    don’t cry for loved ones cursing your fate.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Get lost, leave India to Indians. North Easterners are Indians.

    Try to remember that Rohingya Muslims are NOT Indians, they are not even wanted in Bangladesh. Indian Muslims like Assaduddin Owaisi are breast beating for some scum of the earth not wanted by Burma, Bangladesh, Pakistan OIC or anywhere else. Only engriches and fake Ravis are shedding tears for them and breast beating.

  • Anonymous

    a) Why did the media didn’t show any footage of Azad Maidan riots?
    b) Why is it showing NE people leaving Bangalore day in and day out?
    and more importantly,
    c) Is the BJP government is Karnataka unable to convince the NE students/workers that they are safe in the state? How many people has it arrested on suspicion of spreading rumour/hatred/threat?

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  • Anonymous

    Mischievous text messages claiming that people from the North East will be targetted in Delhi, particularly after Ramzan, have started circulating with police on Saturday urging the community not to believe in them and stating that adequate security measures have been taken.
    “Fake SMSes about North Eastern people being targetted in Delhi, particularly after Ramzan, are being circulated. Do not believe them. Situation is normal. There is no violence against people from North East,” Robin Hibu, Joint Commissioner of Police, said.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Brilliant cartoon.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, it shows how these MMSs are created and sent to make mindless Muslims get themselves work up into a frenzy and attack even policemen and molest policewomen as happened in Mumbai riots.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Delhi is safe. I have a few colleagues at work from NE and they are not going to run away because of these threats which are being blamed on social media but being spread more though print and electronic media.

    Surprise, surprise. After having spent numerous cigarette-breaks with me and getting to know about the scams and vote-bank politics of Congress, they have turned anti-Congress. They can see through their game and have vowed to teach them a lesson next time.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Nice to know of this. Keep up the good work in the interest of our beloved country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sooner or later, we need to identify these rumor-mongers and make an example out of them. I’d love to see such action coming from a BJP ruled state govt. I haven’t got high hopes from the otehrs. The role of (electronic) media also needs to be investigated.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    let me tell you this. Bangalore life is so peaceful, this crisis came as a bolt from the blue and left the administration without a clue as to what happened and what needs to be done. But, fortunately the paralysis remained for but a few hours.

    The entire government is has been geared to give a public display of its being pro-active. We have as the state head of police, Mr.Pachau, a NEasterner himself.

    It is a different matter that the people are suffering from sheep mentality, just like the Muslims.

  • emotionalatyachaar

    bada muskil hai samjhna aisa angrezi atyachaar,
    lagta hai aaj hum laut chale, ayenge agle sanibaar.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Better take your saadu too with you.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    :-)

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    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Yeh saadu bhai kaise aye chhodke tv bigyapan,
    lagta hai chal raha hai yahan koi yudh bina samarpan.

    Aap to lagte hain ho gaye ghayal,
    lagta hai koi naach raha hai pehenke payal.

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  • Anonymous

    You are a Pakistani in Indian garb
    I will not be hurt by your poison barb.

    [Reply]

    RSadu Reply:

    Feel the desi sting where it hurts most,
    roll in pain while your brain roast.

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  • Anonymous

    Aap ko roza mehanga pad raha hai
    ooper ki manzil khoka pad raha hai
    aap eid aaj hi manaayiye
    humein bhi shaamil keejiye.

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    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    hum bhi intezaar kar rahe hain koi humein bulaye,
    diabetics beemaari hai nehi toh hum bhi phirni khulke khaye.

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  • Anonymous

    mera naam mere ma-baap ne ishwar rakha tha.
    aur tera?

    [Reply]

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Naam to baap rakha atyachaari,
    pata tha usko mein padunga sabko bhaari.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Narcissist.

    [Reply]

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Kahin aap hume gaali toh nehi de rahe hain,
    angrez atyachari ka gussa hum pe toh nehi neekaal rahe hain ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Apne muh miya mithu.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Hum apna badhai kahan kar rahe hain,
    aap toh khamo kham naraaz ho rahe hain.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I will copy paste what you have written and than decide.

    Naam to humara baap rakha atyachari,
    pata tha usko mein padunga sabko bhaari.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Baap ne rakha naam hamara atyachaari kuch soch kar,
    Jaise aap ka naam Mohan rakha koi kuch dekh kar .

    Baap ka dosh hume kuon dete ho,
    sach sun ne mein kyon sharmate ho.

  • Anonymous

    People cannot be “Indians by choice” willy nilly
    They have to apply for visa, go thru the process..not infiltrate

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    RSadu Reply:

    ‘ “Be Indian and let others be Indian” by choice ‘, you read a little by choice you silly,

    People in their own country need visa, really !

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Alvida ki namaaz padhkar phir aye shri atyachaar
    sab puchein kyun karte hain itna bhrashtachaar
    koyle ko bhi bech kar kiya desh mein hahakaar
    choron ke samne kyun hai itne laachaar
    sab chaahte yeh seekhe kuch shishtachaar

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    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Badi samajh hai aap ko Alvida ki namaaz,
    kahin masjid se abhi laut toh nehi rahe hain aap aaj ?

    Saayd burkha chuupa deti hai aap ki umar,
    abhi bhi kya chhup ke dekte hain ladkyon ko hoke bekhabar ?

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    baal ko kala kiya laga ke khijaab
    samajhne lagey apney ko lajawaab
    ibetaab rehtey hain kab uthe padosan ka hijaab
    kahin aisa na ho ki mehnga pad jaye
    ghar mein dena jawab

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    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    dur dur tak na deekhe koi hijaab,
    lekin kuch toh aise jo hai lajawaab.

    gharwali ki yaad na dilayen,
    abhi abhi toh hum thoda muskurayen.

  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————
    ~~ MISSING IN ACTION ~~ as innocents from North East are driven away ~~
    —————————————————————————————————-

    The following people have given NO statement, taken NO action as the innocents from North East are harassed and tortured.

    One senses that the Congresses sees more votes in the united voice of Muslim communalists than in the fewer votes of the North East.

    Here are a few names who are strangely silent

    a) Rahul Baby G who ran a muslim appeasement campaign
    b) Salman Khurshid whose Christian wife boasted of her conversion to Islam
    c) Digvinash G who went to Azamgarh and professed his love for Osamaji

    d) Vinod Sharmaji … our man in the media

    e) Barkha Dutt, Vir Sanghvi and co.
    f) teesta and gang

    I think I can name a thousand people here. But let it be in bits and pieces.

    )

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What about the UPA Chair Mrs Sonia Gandhi? She obviously is the head of the govt, a evidenced by the Sports ministry taking the olympic winners to visit her at her office

    I am oK with others not making any statements although the party should have had through whoever is its spokesperson.

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    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Yeh Sonia bhi koi cheeze hai,
    bade log iss se pidit hai .

    din raat kuch na kuch likte rehte hain uske baare mein,
    jal rahe hain tadap tadap ke jalan ki aag mein.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    OK let us have a riot on imposing Hindi.

    …Hindi malum nahim –only kuch kuch

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Aap toh hum se kahin aage hain,
    hindi thoda bolte hain, hume malayali toh na aye.

    ‘Puttu’ hum bhi kabhi kabhi naaste mein khate hain,
    theeck se nehi banta, iss baat pe rote hain.

    Lekin ‘meen curry’ humara hai lajawaab,
    Kabhi khake toh dekhe bhul jayenge saara hisaab kitab.

    Anonymous Reply:

    aap bhasha aur bhasha speaknwalle ko confue kiya hai

    malayali ka mathlab hai one who speaks Malayalam
    bhasha kI naam malayalam hai

    aap ko easily (aasan??) pad sakta hai… ismem bahuth sanskrit hai, Hindi se jaisa

    MEEN CURRY HAMARA HAI…

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Hum ne kab bola meen curry humara hai?,
    sayad bhasha ke daboch mein aap kho gaye.

    Humara matlab meen curry hum jaise banate hain
    saare log uski bohat mazaa lete hain.

    vijay ! Reply:

    I think you should discuss the seriousness of the COngress capitualtion to communal rioters nd the plight of the NE people rather than diversionary tactics.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Hum aap ka seriousness kaafi der se dekh rahe hain,
    aap toh iss problem ka baat bigaad rahe hain.

    Jab hum aap mein seriousness dekhenge
    apne aap hum aap ko saabasi denge.

    Anonymous Reply:

    TEEK HAI; zare hindustani log meen curry kha kar sukhi rahoo– aapas see jhagada math karo..

    Loka Sama stah Sukhino Bhavanthu — yahi hai hamaree purvik pithamahan ke sandesh..

    aaj iid ka din hai…aaj see sabhi log sneh and prem ka bhasha bolna..aur meen curry khana…humko puttu pasand nahim..appam khao

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Aapam hum se kabhi theeck se na bana,
    humesa toot gaya, yahi hai rona.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Emotional… you are doing atyachar on poetry…. and us :)

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Atyachaari ka atyachaar aap ko sehna padega,
    jab tak yahan naarebazi chalta rahega.

    vijay ! Reply:

    I think you are taking revenge for the drone attacks on Tora Bora by doing atyachaar on us…

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Soft power ka istemaal karna america kabhi na seekha,
    isliye har mulak mein akhir khata hai dhoka.

    vijay ! Reply:

    i will advise the Americans to drop soft toys– bunnies and woolen bears from their drones.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Aap mein yahi toh beemaari hai,
    har baat ko aap mazaak mein lete hain.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Sonia G has been left out from this list as I never expected her to say anything.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Gopi

    It is sad that we are unable to take action against obvious communalists. yesterday night, Arnab Goswami from Assam was also forced to back off when Kamal Farooqi took the discussion on the NE to the extreme.

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  • Anonymous

    “India’s jaundiced secularists”..
    I agree with most of the points Balbir Punj articulates..
    (although BJP has been a disappointment )

    http://newindianexpress.com/opinion/article590542.ece

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A good factual article and a perfect footnote.

    As a footnote one may add that after last Saturday’s violence so-called secularists who otherwise talk of Gujarat 2002 day-in and day-out have gone on a long vow of silence; even they do not have the courage to denounce the targeted attack on the TV vans and journalists. Their cowardice doubts standards in public life, as much as their prejudices are showing.
    ———–

    Shame on all the so called secularists.

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  • vijay !

    ———————————————————————————————
    CONGRATULATIONS! ~~ we separated at Birth !!!~~
    ===================================================
    From DAWN . Please note that the killers wore Pak army dresses. In similar circumstances in Chittisinghpura when 50 Sikhs were killed, Arundhati Roy and Pankaj Mishra had blamed the Rashrtiya Rifles as the killers had worn security forces dress.
    ———————————————
    PESHAWAR: Gunmen dragged 20 Shia Muslim travelers off a bus and killed them at point blank range in northern Pakistan on Thursday, the third such incident in six months, officials said.

    The attack happened in the northwestern district of Mansehra as the bus was travelling between Rawalpindi and the mainly Shia northern city of Gilgit.
    Officials said it was ambushed in the hills of Babusar Top, around 100 miles north of the capital Islamabad, although they differed over details of the incident.
    “Ten to 12 people wearing army uniform stopped the bus and forced some people off the bus,” said Khalid Omarzai, administration chief in Mansehra.
    “After checking their papers, they opened fire and at least 20 people are reported to have been killed. This is initial information and the final toll may go up. They are all Shias,” he said.
    Local police official Shafiq Gul told AFP that the gunmen were masked, but said the victims were pulled from three separate vehicles in the district, which neighbours the Swat valley, a former Taliban stronghold.
    “They stopped three vehicles, searched them and picked up people in three batches of five, six and nine and shot them dead. They were all Shias,” he said.

    [Reply]

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    humare bharat mein bhi yeh kabhi hua karta tha,
    roz ghar se neekalna bhaari padta tha.

    Khush na hoye kuonki yeh pakistan mein hua hai,
    pata nehi kab hindustan mein dubaara suru ho jaye.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Ghutne ka pyjama pehn ban gaye osama ki jaan
    sar pe gol topi rakh kar ho gaye TV ki shaan
    dangey phasaad kartey rahey ,siyasat ko badhatey rahey
    isharon hi isharon mein voton ka hisaab kartey rahey

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Cmon… this is real atyachaar! Trivialising the murder of poor SHias…

    [Reply]

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    “CONGRATULATIONS! ~~ we separated at Birth !!!~~”

    Thodi sharam agar kiye hote,
    phir aisa headline na likhe hote.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Sure. if your love for Padosans and Padosi desh is so great… enjoy a glass of beer in Muridke and raise it high…

    Of course come back here without hands !!

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    mauka dekh kar na hum kisika mazzak nehi udate hain,
    apne niyaat par humesha kaayam rehte hain.

  • Anonymous

    Times are changing.

    On Twitter
    Vinod Sharma‏@VinodPolitics

    Assam’s perfume baron badruddin is upto mischief. Gogoi must rein in d guy posing as saviour of muslims n collecting money in their name.

    What has prompted this?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    I think we guys have prodded him !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Only two days back Sharma ji was singing a different tune:

    Vinod Sharma ‏@VinodPolitics

    The Rumour Spreading Society (RSS) first spread fear
    among NE students in Bangalore n is now playing d saviour.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Ishwar

    He must have got Pathak G to type out that one !

    vijay ! Reply:

    I also think that the people of India including Muslims have seen the spineless Congress. It certainly will be reduced to two digits in the next elections. HOPE VINOD SHARMA HAS SEEN THIS TOO.

    Anonymous Reply:

    He has probably starting drinking little early today. Daaru peeya hua banda jooth nahin bolta.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    :-)

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    Cheers!! Really really Gr8 ! Bottoms up… preferably Shrlyn CHopra’s bottom… !

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Sherlyn Chopra ? Already got your hands on the Playboy magazine in which she has posed ?

    vijay ! Reply:

    Mischief is too mild a word for a communal rioter and killer

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  • Anonymous

    Amid all this noise about Assam, Mumbai and Bangalore, we have given a miss to the CAG report on massive scams which has been officially tabled in the parliament. Smartly, the government chose to present all of them on the same day and rubbished them all with one brush saying – “the CAG has exceeded its brief” or “the figures are presumptive” or similar basically implying that there has been ZERO LOSS.

    The loss figures has pushed Mr. Kalmadi’s effort to fourth place in magnitude. The report clearly blames the UPA govt. of showing favours to all and sundry and that includes Reliance, Jindal, GMR, etc.

    I have seen Manohar defending these scams (on First Post) by saying that all this was done for the sake of Aam Admi. When would he understand that CAG report on 2G has forced the govt. to auction the spectrum and now it would indeed earn more money, thereby proving that there was indeed a loss earlier.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I sometimes feel that even CAG is helping Congress in these scams.
    They come up with the loses in huge numbers, 2G 1.76 Lakhs crores
    and now in this case 1.85 Lakhs crores.- Almost unbelievable numbers-. Later after rechecking/re auditing/re calculating the figures will come down to 20000-30000 crores and UPA leaders will start shouting about correctness of the original report and credibility of CAG. BJP leaders also will speak initially demanding PM, FM and some other ministers to resign and will move on other topics without seriously pressuring government to solve these issues. After some time everything will be forgotten. I feel all are in collusion.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    MOhan take it from me one case is as clear as the sun.

    Delhi Airport contract was to be for 30 years with GMR. This was part of the tender as Vinoo had pointed out.

    The crooks in the Congress extended this by 30 MORE years !! Chupke se… while singing the contract!!

    Wah ji wah !! Kya morality hai… !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This government is involved in many scams but I am really disappointed at BJP. They don’t put enough pressure on government to come out with the truth and get the culprits
    punished. Every time any news of any scam surfaces BJP leaders will demand resignations of various ministers and will move on to another subject.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, it is the arrogance of Congress that they dismiss all charges of corruption. It is up to the media to keep the issue burning till a logical conclusion is arrived.

    In the latest charge-sheet in CWG, the name of Kalmadi doesn’t figure.

    Anonymous Reply:

    UPA has taken hands off approach to CWG investigation allowing the SC do the direct supervision.

    Our friend has started revising his estimate of scam and he will do more as we progress.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The punishment in the IPC is the same for a heera chor and a kheera chor. The magnitude doesn’t really matter.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The magnitude destroyed the reputation, the brand India.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Only magnitude do not destroy the reputation,
    innumerable scams have destroyed the brand India.Do you mean to say that if CAG had come up with thefigures of few thousand crores instead of the figures we hear than the brand India would have remained intact?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes. That’s what sensalisation is all about.
    Then we would have debated in the Parliament about the estimate after being vetted by the PAC.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Media as we know will not keep these issues burning. It becomes the job of main opposition party, that is BJP, to keep
    alive these issues but sadly they either are themselves part
    of the scams or they are just simple idiots. As Gopiji would say that they are unable to open the gift wrapped packets.

    Anonymous Reply:

    1) How many coal blocks have been mined so far ?
    2) Who all were there in the screening committee ?
    3) How many NDA states could be owning the major coal blocks ?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    How does that matter?

    Anonymous Reply:

    When you start answering them, you will realise how do they matter.

    So start from the no 1.

    I will bring in few more as we progress.

    Anonymous Reply:

    My point is much simpler. Why were the coal blocks not auctioned when a recommendation to this effect was made in July, 2004?

    Anonymous Reply:

    It’s not actually so simple. The auction process has always been debatable. New Govt. had just set in. New policies were to be formulated.

    Besides anything of this magnitude takes time in any Govt. You may not understand appreciate this as you might not have experience in the Govt. corridor. This is not Top down approach. The data is compiled, suggestions and feedbacks are taken from the ground level.

    Perhaps you are from Jharkhand. Check out Coal India office at 4 o clock see if you can find anybody on the table.

    It’s not an excuse. But reality.

    It takes time to buy a piece of land or equipment in the Govt department. We are talking about long term major decisions.

    So the Govt. had to fall back on the screening committee. Now please search on Google who all were there in the screening committee.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I’d find out the people in the screening committee in a bit.

    In the mean time, let me get this right. The decision to award coal blocks without competitive bidding was taken by the PM because we couldn’t formulate a policy on this. Could you tell me the no. of blocks that were awarded between 2004 and 2009? Is it 155? And the no. of block(s) awarded after the new policy was finally formed is only one. So, you see no malafide intentions here?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I believe we are talking about 57 blocks.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, you are right. 57 of them have been found irregular by Mr. Vinod Rai

    Anonymous Reply:

    I see you have edited your post. Are you suggesting that some NDA ruled state governments are also involved? Is this a newer-smarter way to plunder – share a bit of it with the opposition? Or, is it a tried, tested and approved model of Digvijay Singh?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Don’t jump. Go slow.
    I have given just few posers. Start investigating. That would unveil the curtain of curiosity for you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, I got busy with kick-off of a new season of Barclay’s Premier League that I avidly follow. It has had a good start today with Liverpool losing 3-0 to a bottom of the league club. My fav. Manchester United play on Monday night.

    Now, to answer your questions:

    1) In most, the mining is yet to begin
    2) No idea
    3) I don’t understand the question

    Thus, the whole idea of giving away coal blocks to private companies (without having waited for a policy to auction them) was based on urgency – the country badly needs coal and CIL is unable to meet the demands of the steel, power and cement sector. If the mining is yet to begin in most, doesn’t it mean that some private companies bagged captive mines as they were available cheap and they didn’t probably needed it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You know how many NDA ruled states are there. See out of 57 Blocks, how many blocks fall in NDA ruled states.

    === Other stuff we will discuss after 2 hour break. Need to catch up with few things now.

    Anonymous Reply:

    What difference does it make about how many blocks fall in
    NDA ruled states? If they are involved in the scam they should also face the music and punished severely.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The decision to allocate coal-blocks as opposed to auction them was taken at the highest level. PathakG can bring in NDA (as Ravi could bring RSS) anywhere to deflect the issue.

    Anonymous Reply:

    We all can give rhetoric statements. You know I am no less adept in that if it boils down to that. But the point is amongst a close group who meet almost every day, we must have a clear picture about the issues that we face every day.

    My effort is to open up the subject with that perspective in mind.

    Even if you sincerely go through answers for those 3 questions, you will see why there was a very little chance of high corruption as alleged.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I back off with apologies. I know that I need to let you go for something more important. However, please help me understand this. Was there no corruption – no favouritism – no foul play in coal allocation and this CAG report is all hot air? We would discuss the Delhi Airport issue some other day.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I will catch up after an hour or two.

  • Anonymous

    Vijay ! Chidambaram is now in another scam !

    The finance minister P
    Chidambaram on Saturday asked banks to cut interest rates and keep EMIs
    at affordable levels to encourage sale of consumer durables.

    ===
    1) Now Chidambaram has colluded with the Private parties.
    2) He has asked the banks to cut the interest rate thereby making losses to the exchequer few lakh crores. [ Please ask Vinod Rai about the presumptive losses this action has caused.]

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Will banks act as per Chiambaram’s instructions? Shouldn’t RBI reduce
    their CRR first which will bring liquidity in the banking circle?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shouldn’t they go for higher interest to maximise the profit ?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Funny; Bhai mere, what I am trying to say is that RBI should act first to reduce the CRR which will bring the liquidity in the
    banking circle and banks will be forced to bring down the rates. By just requesting/ordering the banks to reduce rates
    will not work.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shouldn’t RBI protect its interest ? Why should banks improve liquidity thus helping private parties profit? RBI should not play with the country’s future by taking unnecessary risks.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is RBI’s job to manage the interest rates like Federal Reserve does in USA and Bank of England in UK.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Should go for higher interest and earning for the country. At no point it must reduce the rates thus causing presumptive or real losses.

    BTW does CAG Vinod Rai audit RBI accounts and policies ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I don’t think it is worth a time to discuss with you on this
    subject.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Were we discussing ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I thought I was, any way we will just leave it at that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Need to rush for something. Shall catch up later.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Need to rush for something. Shall catch up later.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I thought I was, any way we will just leave it at that.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I don’t think it is worth a time to discuss with you on this
    subject.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak

    Let us not take the discussion with a tongue in cheek, *** for tat; BJP does it because Congress has done it…

    The fact is that huge corruption is going (on?) in the central and state governments. Congress is more corrupt than others because Congress is more experienced and has perfected. And more than Congress, BJP, Mayawati etc, it is the bureacracy that is driving this corruption – they show the illiterate and literate ministers the lopholes for making illegal money.

    This has to end. I remeber seeing a Hindi movie a few years ago where the politician is striking a deal to sell Taj Mahal. There are politicians, bureaucrats, and I am ashamed to say – even military officers (for they come from the same strata, why should they be different) – who will sell the country to a bidder, need not even be the highest.

    Should nt our children and grand children deserve a better India?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You think the Congress is more corrupt because the BJP is more adept in shouting hoarsh.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It has nothing to do with BJP shouting. Congress is more corrupt 1) because Indira Gandhi institutionalized it and “nationalized” it 2) they have more “ruling” experience, so they know how to “manage” 3) family dynasties be at the centre or state (YSR/JAgan) reinforces that…..the list goes on.

    Again, if we had a better bureaucracy, better administartive systems , and not the leftover from the British, things would have been different. I maintain that the root cause of the corruption is our IAS type bureaucracy.

    Again, I hope, we do not get into “who is more corrupt” arguments; obviously one group has to be “more” than the other; at this time it just happens to be Congress

    Anonymous Reply:

    I consider the present Congress team to be far less corrupt and committed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    than?

    Anonymous Reply:

    The NDA or old Congress leaders of Kesari days.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Far less corrupt in comparison to ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I personally do not think Chidambaram or Sibal is corrupt. I believe there are thousands of skeletons in Sonia’s closet. But I also believe she cares about India, nmore than the scoundrels like Karunanidhi and YSR.

    The growth and globalization obviously have created too many opportunities and too many loopholes. Who would have thought concrete sand is a precious commodity?

    I admire Indira GAndhi for her guts. But she laid the foundation for the wide and deep corruption we see today.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Who do you think in Congress top leadership is corrupt?

  • vijay !

    @ Pathak G

    I will talk on facts now. This Delhi Airport thing is a huge fraud. How can you stretch the contract to 60 years from 30, without letting the initial bidders also bid on those terms.

    I know a little about Airport construction. I will talk on facts. When Charles Correa designed the old airport in 1981, nobody was willing to beleive that India could ever attract so much traffic, yet by 1999, the Airport was crowded and had outlived its life. I worked on a consultancy assignment (as a trainee employee) of the new Airport. Well our inflow projections could only stand true for 15 years as nobody really knows how many times more the actual inflow can actually be.

    To mortgage India’s future for 60 years is a huge scam. A HUGE SCAM.

    Toll roads , the BOLT model all work on 10-30 years. Here 30 are given free…

    Obviously for kickbacks.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is not the only case in India of Extending contract for a successful bidder. This is not the first or last. It happens everywhere. All large infrastructure contracts are done like that.

    Did you ask Solanki how he distributed fishery contracts before dancing like jitendra in white shoes ?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Let us talk airport !

    GMR now even has the power to get the next Airport in the NCR without a bid !

    Extending a monoply contract by 30 years. Nobody in his senses can justify this.

    This is like dynastic succession. If I win an election …. my son will get the gaddi after me.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    One has to see good things too. At least GMR does a good job!

    vijay ! Reply:

    Sure they did a good job. But extending their ownership of the Airport for next 30 years… is a favour only a foolish or a corrupt government would do.

  • Anonymous

    Several youtubes of the Azad Maidan RAza organized Azad Maidan march and violence are in circulation. Some of them have occasional Pakistani flags. Muslims will say a good Muslim will not commit violence, let alone carry Paksiatni flag. They will say it is others in disguise. Hindus will say it is Muslims. Anything is possible in these days of doctored images. The fact is that riots happened. Raza organized it to protest events in distant places.

    I recommend that new rules be put in to give permission for these protest marches. 1) No permission for protesting against events in other states and countries 2) declaration that any state wide bandh is illegal (Kerala has one bandh every month) 3) A minimum of 20 years imprisonment for anybody found destroying state property 4) No bandh for interstate water issues 5) etc etc

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Are you, by any chance, advocating Emergency ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    well, some sort of controls is needed. Or, have protest marches like in the Western world – quiet ones with placards; no shouting, burning, destruction.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    well, some sort of controls is needed. Or, have protest marches like in the Western world – quiet ones with placards; no shouting, burning, destruction.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh, do you know China has no emergency, but see how the trouble created by some extremist Muslims in their Uighur region has been put down?

    Why do you think Burma has dealt with the Bangladeshi infiltrators in Ranghiya in the manner it did?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi, doctored or engineered, the government seriously needs to be lawyered.

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  • vijay !

    ————————————————————————————————– ~~~ CONGRATULATIONS! ~~ we separated at Birth ~~~~ ————————————————————————————————–

    The Home ministry and the Home Secretary is on TV right now and says that bulk messages targeting the North Easterners were bulk messages from Pakistan. Now three things are clear

    a) The Media brigade including Vindo Sharma who were trying to drag RSS and Advani were on a Pavlovian reaction mode. Blame RSS absolve Baby G

    b) There is no point in engaging with this **** nation called Pakistan. We are allowing them to open banks and offices here. There are investing in terror.

    c) The UPA leadership is very very very weak and the Home Minister just a nauker who does not have the brains to tackle any issue. d) Where are the Muslims who could have come forward and condemned all this. Why is the media not getting them onto their panels.

    Sick!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Even I have read somewhere that these bulk SMS’s were sent from Pakistan probably using internet. The local agents of ISI helped them with the data of NE people in various states.

    And seriously, where does that leave Mr. Vinod Sharma and his RSS conspiracy theory?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    The Pakistan angle is full blown on all TV channels now.

    As for Pathak G and Vinod Sharmaji’s conspiracy theories of RSS… we all know these are big jokes. I am sure both of them laugh secretly at the extent they go to drag RSS in everywhere.

    Kya kehto ho Pathak G?

    Only Ravi take them seriously… and so has gone bonkers.
    Only Baby G believes them. …

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    Anonymous Reply:

    So after all you and RSS trolls are not the only one to use electronic media to spread rumour ! Muslims caught on you. Hope you catch on with them in b..b making !

    vijay ! Reply:

    C’mon your attempts to drag in RSS everywhere…. surely dont fool you… do they?

    Anonymous Reply:

    If we are to believe Digvinash Singh (as you believe him implicitly), Hindus have caught on with the bomb making in a big way. Or didn’t you know it?

    Digvinash even has proof that 26/11 was out and out an RSS operation. At least believe him on this, please.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Easy way out. Blame Pakistan and close the chapter as if there were no
    riots in Mumbai and Pune, no killings in Assam. Even if these SMSs were
    generated from Pakistan, the people who caused the riots should be caught and punished.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ MOhan

    I doubt whether the UPA will punish anyone who is a Muslim. In Lucknow, in Azad maidan the police just looked sideways.

    The moderate muslim, the Liberal muslim, the non practicing muslim, the non- religious Muslim
    is not wanted by the UPA

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  • Anonymous

    Jim Yardley’s (NY Times resident editor in India) report on Assam, panic all over India, human dimensions of the calamity…

    Indians (especially Muslims) should be ashamed!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/18/world/asia/panic-radiates-from-indian-state-of-assam.html?smid=pl-share

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Why should Muslims, in particular, be ashamed ?

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  • Anonymous

    Ehtsham Khan,
    Couple of things here.
    First , the historic parallels. This is not a build-up to 92-93. No matter how much hoarse the extremist nuts from Hindu and Muslim communal scream , we are well past it. Look around and get a feel – the communal undertones are just not strong enough. Don’t compare “blogosphere” with life outside. In that sense , media is accurate in not reporting the communal undertones in these events.
    Second, RSS…. The traditional lathi weilding image is a historical remnant. Your average religious extremist has long since discarded that outfit. In fact, he dons a far modern avatar that includes blog participation..
    Third, I tend to agree with you about Muslim community leaders speaking out on the issue . The other aspect is silence of secular political forces. They should have raised hell on anybody and everybody painting this mischief with communal colours. On that count, congress has abysmally failed.
    p.s. for Mohan, Vijay Kumar, Gopi and Pathak : Can anybody please help me finding something communally inciting in Khan’s response. Did I miss something ? (Hinting and Pathak and Vijay Kumar’s discussion on Khan’s response).
    p.p.s. for Mohan : I was referring to poverty alleviation through Market mediation.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    Is that you saying this ‘RSS … The traditional lathi wielding image is a historical remnant. You average religios extremist has long since discarded that outfit ‘.

    This is what Mr. Khan has written

    ‘ On August 15, I was present at the Independence Day celebrations at the residence of BJP leader L K Advani. After hoisting the flag, Mr Advani did not say anything on the growth and development or the problems of the country. He straight away started speaking on Assam violence. In his brief five-minute address to the media, Mr Advani gave a veiled threat. Something like the ones we used to hear in the pre-demolition era. Referring to the Mumbai violence, Advani said: “If this continues then the country will not tolerate it.” There was serious threat in his tone and tenor.’

    Can you please tell me what he was trying to imply by posting this above paragraph?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    I am talking about the modus operandi. Religious extremists (actually communal extremists is a more accurate term here) no longer use the same traditional techniques and tools from yester-years.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Mahesh

    Ehasham’s post becomes communally inciting as he was not willing to put the blame on the obvious rioters of the Raza academy but instead transfer the blame onto Advani and RSS and Hindus.

    News is now streaming in that Pakistan is behind the SMS avalanche.

    It is the sort of lies which Ehtasham peddles that creates a hatred between Hindus and Muslims. Remember the Gujarat riots?

    In case after Godhra, there had been no attempts to shift the blame of the train tragedy onto karsewaks deserving it for misbehaviour, history could very well have been different.

    Now on one side the Indian public is seeing the disturbing images of destruction of the Amar Jawan jyoti and on the ohter side SOME Muslims like Ehtasham and their leaders blaming this on the RSS and and Advani. This is bound to raise the communal temperature.

    These

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,
    Nowhere did I find him accusing “Hindus” for the current incidents. Actually the post mentioned hawks on “both” sides.
    Second, what makes you think RSS represents average Hindu ?
    Just because they say so ? Heck , even some tin-pot Mullahs do that. Notice the symbiotic relationship between these nuts ? (Mullahs and RSS).

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    your this wishy washy post needs to be firmly put in its place: the garbage bag of Vinod Sharma’s blog.

    RSS may have invaded and occupied the ether world, but you are living in the netherworld. The Muslim community leaders you are speaking about, none of them have spoken out about Pakistani MMS propaganda .

    Your simplicity is clearly shown when you are taken in by Ehtesham’s seemingly secular views, but did you read that he claimed that he was present in Advani’s house when he blamed Muslims for the trouble in Assam?

    Unless Ehtesham is another secular version of Pathakji/Vinodji, it is a fraudulent claim.

    You are also being extremely naive and credulous in blaming the secular parties. You urgently need to get real. There are NO SECULAR PARTIES IN INDIA. What we have are plenty of pseudo secular parties like JDU, congress (in league with the dangerously communal and anti-national Muslim League) JDS, SP etc. The sine qua non for these pseudos is that they should be prepared to pamper the extremists among the Muslims.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,
    First – the Secular Parties. I specifically said Secular Political forces. All the parties you mentioned plus Left plus Congress have a section which are genuinely secular.
    What is the deal about Ehteshan’s Advani claim ? He probably brandished something for the effect and you latched on to it – Ignoring rest of the post.
    As for Muslim community leaders speaking about Pakistan – let us not lend un-necessary credence to what any jerk from outside our border posts in cyberspace. Let us rather focus on those SMSes and create a climate that renders these SMS rumours become a butt of joke amongst whom these are targetted to.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Mahesh

    Don’t read too much into Vijay’s postings. He is like a ” new convert ” who strives very hard to tell the whole world how diligently he follows the diktat of his new religion.

    He is like the burqa clad damsel in Canada who tells the World how particular she is with her religion while girls in Islamabad moves around in jeans. Vijay’s jeans days will come much later, once he is well accepted by the BJP trolls as their really own.

    Till then he will keep his voice shrill, feet in Jitendra’s white shoes, goggles flashing neon ” I LOVE MY NEW RELIGION, I WAS BJP NEUTRAL ” signage.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Vijay may be everything…. but he never sells his soul to become a nauker!

    C’mon… Pathak G… u can do better than that!

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  • Anonymous

    EID MUBARAK TO ALL OF YOU.

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  • Anonymous

    I don’t understand the point of Dance Bars.
    If I wanted a woman to take my money & sexually frustrate me, I better stay at home with my wife.

    Good morning friends.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Back to your usual best.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He is always fresh in the morning after a night full of relaxation and recreation.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I just dropped in for Mohan’s joke of the day ahead of a busy Sunday. Would join back later this afternoon. And while I am here, let me wish a Happy Eid to all.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar, Mohan, Vijay Kumar, Mahesh, Shoeb, Parvez, Rizwan, Ehtesham and Vinod Sharma,

    HAPPY EID TO ALL OF YOU.
    MAY ALLAH THE MERCIFUL SAVE US ALL
    MAY VISHNU THE BOUNTIFUL BLESS US.

  • vijay !

    Eid Mubarak to all muslim friends… especially Parvez, rizwan, usman, Shoeb… and even engrich

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  • vijay !

    ———- AN APPEAL TO ALL BLOGGERS ““““““`

    Three days some anit nationals in the garb of Islam attacked the amar jawan jyoti at Azad Bhavan, attacked the media and the public. Two days back in a rally in Lucknow Muslims attacked the Buddhists because they felt Buddhists in Burma had killed Muslims.

    A hate campaign is on against the people of North East based on the perception that they are Budhhists ( being slant eyed)

    This blog HAS TO condemn all this very strongly. Somehow when the Indian media talks about Islam, it only does to perpetuate victimhood mentality and never speak up when in the name of Islam, crimes against humanity are committed.

    The vast majority of Muslims may well be against it. But India’s media will never give them a voice as it fears that that would hurt the extremists.

    I expected better from the media..

    Why dont journos write pieces condemning the criminals who destroyed the Amar jawan Jyoti, Why dont they expose the people who want Indian Muslims to hit at Buddhists in India because there are tensions in Burma?
    These guys never got agitated when hindus were driven from Kashmir.

    Condemn these anti-nationals. And Not a conditional condemnation — that becasue the Babri masjid was demolished these guys are justifed… or because it happened in Burma we need to condemn Burma first…

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  • Anonymous

    Supreme Court Amarnath ruling runs into protest

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Supreme-Court-Amarnath-ruling-runs-into-protest/articleshow/15551530.cms

    SRINAGAR: Resistance to making the journey to Amarnath smoother and safer could snowball in Kashmir following separatist leader Mirwaiz Umer Farooq’s protest against the Supreme Court’s direction to the government to construct roads and build infrastructure on the route. Farooq says it would disturb the region’s delicate ecological balance.

    “If the road construction is taken up in the area, it would lead to felling of trees. This will trigger an ecological disaster in this environmentally sensitive region,” Mirwaiz said on Friday. He said it would increase pollution and result in the melting of glaciers.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    NO eco balance is disturbed b y getting Burmese refugees there as Dukhtaran-e- millat desires.

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  • Anonymous

    GOI has said that they will take up the issue of inciting SMSs with Pakistan.
    Our PM will call Zardari, will wish him Eid Mubarak, thank him for the generous donation of USD One million to Ajmer Dargah and then will give him the dreaded news. ‘ Bulk of SMSs and MSMs have originated from your country which have wrecked havoc here, riots have occurred, many people have been killed, this has created an environment of distrust between Hindus and Muslims. I have no choice but to take a strong action against your country.
    As a severe punishment We will delay the forthcoming cricket series.’

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Or move the whole army to the border ( Rs30,000 Crore expense ) with a threatening posture, then back to barrack without firing a bullet !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    India’s Union home secretary Mr. R. K. Singh has claimed that Pakistan is engaged in cyber warfare against India. By just protesting and raising an issue with them will not help. I am not advocating moving the army to the borders of Pakistan . We can at least start with removing them fom the list of MFN as a warning.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That would be a stupid thing to do. Let’s not substitute a Cyber warfare with withdrawal of MFN Status.

    A bigger player is always caught off-guard by a nimble 2nd layer player. The big player must learn to break the inertia and play the game hard. Ofcourse, when the bigger player plays the game hard, the smaller player runs for cover.

    India is like a big aircraft carrier with great fire power, Pakistan a frigate, swifter.

    Same is the case between the Congress and the BJP.

    Anonymous Reply:

    PathakG,

    Normally I would agree with you on this point as it is right and matured approach. But with Pakistan, it is high time we take some action against them. They have been hurting us since quite some time but we are just witnessing their harmful actions without taking any concrete action. One such action – I suggested removing of MFN status, there can be some other action – may have the desired effect.

    Laton ke bhoot baton se nahin maante.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Inertia is the trademark of this government.
    Silence is its bugle call.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Is it OK for you if the army also fires some shots and then goes back to the barracks?

    You are unable to see the tragic humour in Mohan’s post, because you are always worried thatanything we may say would hurt the brother separated at birth.

    The least this spineless government can do now is to stop all “confidence building measures”. No cricket, no ping pong, even if no big bang.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A spectator outside the ring always thinks like you just did.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You just said that YOU ARE AN INSIDER.
    THE QUESTION IS WHETHER ON THIS SIDE OF THE BORDER OR THE OTHER SIDE.

    Anonymous Reply:

    When a player, inside the ring, is hit by his opponent after getting caught off-guard, he has two choices.

    Either, he publicly rubs his injury telling the World how badly he is hurt showing his weakness;

    Or, he plays along as if nothing happened, buys his time and counter-attack with a severe blow.

    I am hating every piece of news that GOI is planning to file complain against these cases with the PAK Govt..

    The GOI should just coolly bring NE brothers back after urging all private firms not to cut their salaries or institutes not to mark their absence and Railways to offer subsidised return railway tickets.

    Anonymous Reply:

    World shoud be told about the regular nefarious activities of Pakistan. This may eventually make other countries to put pressure on Pakistan to stop their rogue attitude.
    I think we have bought enough time and now we should take some action to show them that we will no more take this nonsense.

    Anonymous Reply:

    By now the World knows. Even the Americans have learnt it hard way.

    After this, it’s only Diminishing Marginal Utilities in this strategy.

    We must just accept Pakistan is a rogue country and play both hard and soft ball game to contain it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Koi jooth agar sau baar bola jaye to woh sach lagne lagta hai. Just imagine what will happen if the truth is told numerous times. Even their close friends like Saudi will start
    avoiding them. Somehow such situation should be created that whole world should start avoiding Pakistam like pariah.
    Then only perhaps they will change their attitude.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Wrong.
    That’s a short term tactical approach many people fall for, including the BJP.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is definitely not a short term solution as this will take very long to have an effect.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It’s very tactical, not strategic with a very little utility.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Since strategy has failed lets be little tactful.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    for the first time, I don’t mind seeing eye to eye with you on your views on what the governments should do.

    Tarun Gogoi has already told the people to return to their jobs. He has, I think offered to provide free rail transport.

    The suggestion that all companies should restore salaries for the period of absence and also give back the jobs of those who resigned, is good. In fact that is the need of the hour, because that will send the strongest message to our NE bhai-behen that the country stands together with them at this hour of crisis; it will also tell Pakistan and its trojan soldiers inside India that their game has failed.

    May be Pakistan has indeed done a big favour to India.

    ALL INDIANS SHOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER HITTING PAKISTAN ECONOMICALLY AND CRIPPLE THEIR WAR MACHINERY BEYOND REPAIR.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh was right in saying that the one thing positive which will come out of this turmoil is that finally people of India will be sensitive to the people from the North East India.
    Earlier they were sort of not considered as part of India.

    Anonymous Reply:

    He did see the humour but he just cannot see anyone criticizing Congress so he has to come up with his usual witty reply and as usual he never forgets to mention BJP without any reason.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Now the player inside the ring speaks.

    Shenoy ! Take note. This is what I meant when I talked about inside/outside the ring.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Bhai mere, I am not any player. Niether inside nor outside.
    I am just a simple spectator.

    vijay ! Reply:

    As per your beleifs… the operation brasstacks conducted by Rajiv gandhi would be gr8

    And of course the operation Parakaram by Vajpayi would be a failure.

    Don’t worry we all know why you think this way.

    Congress SEWA DAL handbook says so !

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  • vijay !

    @ MOhan

    This is a sick , rootless government run by dahlas and dalals. All of them want to get the dunce Baby G on the gaddi so that they can loot loot and loot.

    Don’t expect these guys to have a Pakistan policy. These guys have already requested Pakistan to invest in India. Pakistan has only one foreign investing company. Narcotics, terror and Islamic fundamantalism.

    We have seen the first fruits of this foriegn investment in the brutal attack on the North Eastern people.

    We have seen Most Congressis– Baby G, Digviansh G and co silent on this.

    The Home Minister is hiding in the Home of the royal family cleaning bartan.

    Dont expect anything from the COngress… :)

    EXCEPT SPIN WHICH PATHAK G WILL GIVE IN AMPLE>>> !!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pakistan is already involved in India through their terrorist activities
    and for funding such activities they were using havala channels. India being a benevolent country has now allowed them to bring money officially to fund terrorists.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    It is a **** of a nation. Just when the US and UK were totally dumping it, KIND HEARTED india wants to rescue it becasue our soft hearted idtios eat a free kabab at the Pak High COmmissioners party…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    They are now inviting Pakistan to “invest” in India!

    vijay ! Reply:

    The first investment is the MMS campaign.

    Anonymous Reply:

    es, unfortunately some of our misguided Muslim fundoos have invested heavily in this joint FDI venture.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Nobody is willing to tell the instigtors of hatred that they are going to be in jail soon. All of these gangsters are tryign to somehow link this to RSS or BJP

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Mohan

    This is too scared a governmen. Bilkul darpok. DARRRRRRRR POKKKKKKKKK.

    No Minister has come forward to say this. Only the Home Secretary says this. All he Ministers will jsut say Paksitan is a good neigbour we must love…

    Darr lage toh gana ga..
    Congress toh darpok hai

    Laat isko marr kar
    Desh ko mahaan bana…

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  • Anonymous

    Bullying intellectuals, submissive BJP

    http://www.rediff.com/news/column/bullying-intellectuals-submissive-bjp/20120817.htm

    It is time those who claim to champion the cause of Hindus became a little more assertive and took on the peddlers of moral equivalence and exposed their lies, says Ravi Shanker Kapoor.

    The most important part of Bharatiya Janata Party [ Images ] (BJP) leader L K  Advani’s speech in Parliament on August 8 was not in which he used the word “illegitimate” — and withdrew it after Congress president Sonia Gandhi [ Images ] vehemently protested –  but the one in which he bowed to the diktats of political correctness. He said, “The violence in Assam should not be seen as a communal incident. Let no one regard it as a Hindu-versus-Muslim affair or a tribal-versus-non-tribal one. The basic issue is between Indians and the infiltrators from across the border.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, Vijay Kumar,

    we must follow what Pathakji has prescribed: say one thing and do the right thing. we should treat this as issue concerning the unity and integrity of India and do everything possible to protect it.

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  • Anonymous

    A must read – whether one agrees with Pioneer or not..

    A good perspective.on polity, policy, larger dimension of the “azad maidan” problem…

    “The rumour mongers have the last laugh” Swapan Gupta

    http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnists/item/52242-%E2%80%98rumour-mongers%E2%80%99-have-the-last-laugh.html

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    vijay ! Reply:

    THE real issue is lack of leadership. Nobody wanted to confront the rumour mongers as everyone thought of electrol politics. There was a palpable fear that in case the Muslim community was told the truth, they wont vote for the COngress.

    let me quote Swapan Dasgupta here

    —————-

    Finally, the conspirators who instigated the troubles must be gloating over the fragility and helplessness of the Government and the political class. Far from reacting with outrage over what happened over the past nine days, there was a disgraceful show of squeamishness. The Mumbai Police Commissioner is reported to have warned against too many arrests, a Chief Minister is understood to have pressed the Ministry of External Affairs to summon the Myanmar Ambassador and issue a formal demarche, and the Minority Commission has chosen to be in denial over the illegal immigration to Assam. Politically, the Congress is in blue funk because it is fearful that firm action against the instigators of the mob violence and the creators of the morphed photographs could have dire electoral consequences.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay-

    Owaisi was not joking when he declared a third radicalization of Muslims. In fact, he had already started a “soft” radicalization as the later unfolding events suggest. And he made sure his people in Hyderabad kept off the streets and did not go after the NE students, but he steered the Muslim in other cities.

    There is a serious problem with the country if a few Muslims can create terror and panic inside the country because Mayanmar Budhists killed few Muslims there.

    (asking a formal explanation from the Mayanmar ambassador is a joke!)

    Now since the law and order is a state issue it is upto the state governments to prosecute the trouble makers. The commissioner in Mumbai is a sucker. Nothing will happen in Lucknow because Maulyam would not want the law touch Muslims. Only Bangalore/Karnataka may have the guts to act, but there was no violence there.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    It is a sick sick darpok leadership. The only solution is to send the corrput gutless COngress to kalapani

    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely right!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good article. Government has become spineless and clueless.
    It is absurd to demonstrate in support of the people of other countries.
    I hope that the rioters and the instigators are caught and punished severely.

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  • Anonymous

    Pathak-
    I agree with your solution/suggestion to the NE students/workers problem.

    Let us assume all these people go back to their colleges/work places. .

    However, what if something like this happens again? What legal, police, safety factors have been adjusted/changed/reinforced so these will not happen again?

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay, Mohan, Mahesh, Ishwar-

    A good piece of info during these hopeless days there in India. There is an energy revolution happening there if this WashingtonPost report could be believed. I wish USA pursues these things instead of its total reliance on mideast oil!

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/10-solar-projects-in-india-that-can-help-fight-grid-blackouts/2012/08/17/304ab990-e51d-11e1-9739-eef99c5fb285_story.html

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Inter4esting article. With the cost of Solar power coming down, it would really be a viable alternative especailly in India.

    Of course Gujarat figured prominently in the article… and that by itself will make solar power haram for the Congress.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It may fuse all their bulbs and the heat may go to their balls, rendering them impotent!

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    vijay ! Reply:

    I dont know why Congress wastes so much time hating Modi . thye should learn from him and improve their performance.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay-

    India’s energy /grid problems will be well-served by these initiatives. Looks like entrepreneurship, ingenuity, pragmatism, innovation etc is at work there – damn the government hindrances.

    I am sure more companies will come up.

    Yes, you are right – Gujrat got a prominent slot; the party politics there will now attack the Gujrat progress!

    Good luck.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    We deserve the luck. This is a remarkable opportunity for Indian R&D to be at cutting edge. We need to collaborate with the world’s best– US, Chinese, Uk…

    Then get private companies ot produce the panels– for the entire world. I fear we may just end up as consumers given the sorry state manufacturing gets into, in socialist India.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good to know that India is gradually moving towards acquiring solar power. The goal of Modi is to make full Gandhinagar- Capital of Gujarat- run on solar power.

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  • Anonymous

    Two NE men fleeing back to Assam die after being thrown out from a running train!
    Reuters report –
    This is really an outrage. That they cannot go back to their state.
    Was there any coverage of this in India? It is in today’s Reuters news

    Questions:
    - Was it done by Muslims so as to create more fear and circle the NEs in the southern and western states?
    - Why are Indians (the populace and the govt) sitting idle – government is issuing statements; what good does it do?
    - What good will happen on the ground by protesting to Pakistan? What can Pakistan civilian administration accomplish?
    - Is this whole thing an extremist/Jehadist Muslim initiative to destabilize India?

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/19/us-india-violence-idUSBRE87I03720120819

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  • engrich

    Two days ago a simple and terrifying image flashed
    across various newspapers in the country. It showed migrants from the northeast
    in Bangalore showing their phone screens to the photographer as they were
    departing the city.

    On the screen was an ominous message warning of
    violence in the coming days. What is significant about this image is not the
    fact that there were threatening messages against another community; these have
    existed throughout history. What it signposts is the arrival of a new form of
    authority, the phone screen. The events of the past few days intimate a new
    uncertain future for our media modernity. We have entered a world where the old
    techniques of deploying crowd control, managing social unrest and communal
    disturbance are going to be tested unless we clearly understand the new stakes
    in our post-media lives.

    The Familiar

    Rumours, fantastic fabrications like the phone
    videos of atrocities in Assam circulating in recent days among Muslim youth are
    a staple of most social conflicts in history. The Great Fear before the French
    Revolution in 1789 saw peasants rise up against the feudal order as rumours
    spread about the burning of crops by the aristocracy. In India, not only 1857,
    but many communal conflicts saw ‘rumour’ being cited as a cause of the violence.
    In the event, the colonial regime took measures that are common to what the
    police are doing today in India. Under British rule, rumour-mongers and ‘history
    sheeters’ were rounded up in the hope that this would quell unrest. If the
    colonial regime suppressed local newspapers, today the government has banned
    mass text and multimedia messages.

    Many of the above revolts significantly took place
    after the arrival of print cultures and modern communication. In almost all
    social unrest and inter community conflicts, print culture produced real and
    fantastic exaggerations of killings, atrocities and massacres. All modern media
    technology from print to the digital are the vehicles of sensation — they move,
    connect and appeal to our feelings of fear, anger, revenge, love, laughter and
    pleasure. Pamphlets alleging great atrocities were common to popular
    mobilisations; these were techniques social movements picked up from newspaper
    headlines and the war jingoism common to the twentieth century. Actual events
    would mutate into the fantastic and horrific. At all times, the colonial regime
    would accuse popular protesters to have been duped by propaganda. All these
    forms have continued after independence in 1947. The terrifying rumours making
    their way today about migrants from the Northeast are a familiar form to
    survivors of Partition riots or the 1984 massacres when word spread that Sikhs
    had poisoned Delhi’s water supply. The Muslims have faced the same before — in
    1992-93 in Bombay and 2002 in Gujarat.

    However something has changed — radically. In the
    last decade, the media ecology of India has radically changed. Around 700
    million Indians have cellular phones that now receive and produce text, video,
    audio and digital images. After the advent of the cellular phone, a growing
    section of the population is now the source of new media output — that in turn
    links to online social networks, mainstream television (through ‘citizen’
    journalism), and peer-to-peer exchanges of text, music and video. Proliferation
    is fundamental to our time, information has value only if it has some velocity
    and is exchanged. Information once collected, always moves, at some point. The
    cellular phone has become a transmitter and media production device: activists
    capture police brutality and protests, ordinary people enter the world of mass
    photography and share them with their friends. These massive expansions of the
    newer media infrastructures have thrown the old control models of the regime
    into disarray: this is a population of potential media producers, not just an
    uneducated mass to be nurtured by the government and traditional media for a
    ‘genuine’ enlightened citizenship.

    The mobile phone is the archive of our recent memory
    - phone numbers, images of loved ones, favourite songs. In countries like India
    with a young media population, it is the first technological device that many
    working people encounter — hence its great intimacy and potential power. Witness
    the images and videos of police atrocities around the country taken by ordinary
    citizens, the massacre videos from Kashmir and Syria. Add to this everyday
    scams, bribe takers caught on phone camera — the phone has effectively
    destabilised classic forms of informational power. Older media like television
    remain powerful but increasingly fragile — hence the nervous hysterics of
    television anchors. The TV screen now pleads our attention all the time, through
    phone polls, ‘citizen’ journalism, and brand media events.

    The phone screen more than that of television is
    what our eyes glance at most of the time. We are proximate to an emerging,
    expressive media culture which gives us radical strengths of subverting power,
    and terrifying vulnerabilities too. It is not just private worlds collapsing
    when information leaks from our phones, but sudden flashes of threat and
    intimidation that have spread in recent days. This is our present and we have to
    deal with it. Simply attacking uneducated readers, or fabrications will not do;
    we have to enter this media ecology and engage with it. Shutting down social
    media or the mobile phone networks is stupid, and rhetorical, it won’t last a
    day. Censorship is a nineteenth century technology, it won’t work today. If the
    government spent less time massaging the egos of large media networks, and came
    to grips with this changed world we could see quicker interventions, and fewer
    panics than we have seen recently.

    (Ravi Sundaram is a Senior Fellow at the CSDS,
    Delhi. He is the author of Pirate modernity, Delhi’s Media Urbanism. His
    next edited book, No Limits: Media Studies from India, will be out this
    winter from Oxford University Press)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Engrish,

    when you had got lost, we thought that God the merciiful had delivered us from a Pakistani evil for ever.

    It looks like God is not so kind or He wants to show that nothing is permanent in this world.

    Now, will you please spare us from the torture of reading your cut-and-paste jobs? Please get lost again, Please, Ram Autar. May Allah make an exception and give you a little akkal.

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  • Anonymous

    TJS George, in an op ed column in the Indian Express briefly touched about the “Betrayal in India”, a book written by DF karaka in the 60s.

    Many youngsters of today may not know about DF Karaka or the weekly publication “Current” he led. Karaka was a lover of India, criticizing the leadership for denying the vision of prosperity to Indians. I used to eagerly wait for Current in my college days.

    I believe we have moved from “betrayal in India” to “Betrayal of India”. What else explains the nonchalant attitude by the leaders on the situation of the NE people, except a few press announcements. What else expalins a leader like Owaisis goes scots free after making a radioactive statement about the third Jehadi movement (implicitly agreeing there were two jehadi movements before). What else explains the whole scale looting of India, worse than the British did..(I will not charge Moguls for looting because they reinvested in India). The NE issues may be partly or mostly attributed to a section of Muslims; but the whole scale looting of India is done mostly by Hindus.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    I too was an avid reader of Current, a slf-confessed right wing news weekly. Karaka had a bitter feud with Karanjia of Blitz who was a messaiah of Left politics. Karanjia used to openly attack Current and he had nick-named D.F.Karaka as Damn Fool Karaka. I have forgotten what he got in return.

    I also share your bitterness and acute diappointment about the present day situation in which India finds herself.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS,

    Karanjia will alter renounce communism, and become a devotee of Sri Satya Sai Baba of Puttaparhi.

    He interviewed the Bhagwan in 1976; I believe he became a follower either immediately after (or just before) the inteview. He spent a lot of time with the Swamiji; authored a book on Bhagwan -”God Lives in India”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree with you Gopiji. Redeem is not in the dictionary of our politicians.
    People redeem only if they realize that they done anything wrong and I don’t see any such thing happening. We need a change, no Congress no BJP, no Mayawati, Mamta, Mulayam, Jagan and many others like them.
    These all are in collusion.

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  • Anonymous

    Love and Marriage

    Love is holding hands in the street.
    Marriage is holding arguments in the street.
    Love is dinner for 2 in your favorite restaurant.
    Marriage is a take home packet.
    Love is cuddling on a sofa.
    Marriage is one of them sleeping on a sofa.
    Love is talking about having children.
    Marriage is talking about getting away from children.
    Love is going to bed early.
    Marriage is going to sleep early.

    Love is losing your appetite.
    Marriage is losing your figure.

    TV has no place in love.
    Marriage is a fight for remote control.
    Love is 1 drink and 2 straws.
    Marriage is “Don’t you think you’ve had enough!”.
    Conclusion: “Love is blind, Marriage is an eye opener!

    Good morning friends

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Some marriages open the eyes so wide, they pop out.

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  • Anonymous

    There is a rumour that A.Rajah has sent a thank you note to CAG and MMS.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Great cartoon.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS
    Mohan had a comment on CAG..about starting with big numbers as a tactic… seems like that!

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  • Anonymous

    Why there were not many scams during NDA rule in comparison to UPA rule?
    Congress should claim credit for this for being the good opposition. They kept
    ruling government under proper check and never allowed them to to loot the country. BJP on the contrary are lousy opposition, only shouting, disrupting parliament, not doing anything constructive which a responsible opposition should be doing.

    To keep India free from scams, Congress should always remain in opposition.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    H.V.Kamath had told Nehru to go to jail for a few years,, because as PM nothing was working and as an author Nehru had written all his books while in jails, which had proved best sellers.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    H.V.Kamath had told Nehru to go to jail for a few years,, because as PM nothing was working and as an author Nehru had written all his books while in jails, which had proved best sellers.

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  • Anonymous

    Why there were not many scams during NDA rule in comparison to UPA rule?
    Congress should claim credit for this for being the good opposition. They kept
    ruling government under proper check and never allowed them to to loot the country. BJP on the contrary are lousy opposition, only shouting, disrupting parliament, not doing anything constructive which a responsible opposition should be doing.

    To keep India free from scams, Congress should always remain in opposition.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    The Nehru Gandhi clan ( it follows a strange ..sometimes matriarchical…sometimes patriarchical.. tradition) has been in the arms business since a long time. Read Ram Jethmalani’s byelined story on the website of the Sunday Guardian.

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  • Anonymous

    Najm Sethi on Kashmir issue.

    http://youtu.be/9KwDFdevnyE

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  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————
    ~~~ Moral of the story: NOBODY CAN ADDRESS ISLAMIC FUNDOOS~~~
    ————————————————————————————————–

    Ever since Pakistan has been found to be the culprit of the SMS fundamentalism, the Home Minister has taken of his Nauker dress and come out for the first time.

    Yet NOBODY NOBODY NOBODY in the UPA remotely condemned the attacks on the media and on innocents in Azad maidan and Lucknow. Nobody talked about the actual brutality on the North Eastern people. The press except Arnab was glaringly silent.

    Some people, including our man in the media– Vinodji– looked for an RSS connect. rajdeep Sardesai, initially even called this a small problem.

    Baby G, Digvinash G and the UPA as such was silent.

    Moral of the story: Muslim fundoos have to be pleased always. They represent too big a vote bank.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Pathakji would certainly not like your post. He would say, naye RSS, jyada hai, hai.

    I also do not agree with you that nobody from the congress has spoken out against the violence in Mumbai. Remember Prathviraj Chawan said these acts are committed by some foreign elements? He seems to be right. Mumbai Muslims definitely cannot be so mean and violent as to molest female policemen and hurt the males. These can only be the acts of Pakistani scoundrels.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    That is why I feel that the UPA and Congres is gutless and just corrupt. They need to live in Kalapani for 10 years so India can be mended.

    I play tennis with a Muslim friend. He came to my house in the morning with Eid mithai and phirni. He was quite angry that nobody was trying to catch the culprits who had tarnished the image of all Muslims. In fact he wanted the speechmakers of Azad maidan to eb hung to the nearest lampost.

    Unfortunately there is nobody who understands the moderate Muslim mind and seeks to please. In fact the Congress and the SP think that by pleasing the hardliners the votes are assured.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    That is why I feel that the UPA and Congres is gutless and just corrupt. They need to live in Kalapani for 10 years so India can be mended.

    I play tennis with a Muslim friend. He came to my house in the morning with Eid mithai and phirni. He was quite angry that nobody was trying to catch the culprits who had tarnished the image of all Muslims. In fact he wanted the speechmakers of Azad maidan to eb hung to the nearest lampost.

    Unfortunately there is nobody who understands the moderate Muslim mind and seeks to please. In fact the Congress and the SP think that by pleasing the hardliners the votes are assured.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    Pathakji would certainly not like your post. He would say, naye RSS, jyada hai, hai.

    I also do not agree with you that nobody from the congress has spoken out against the violence in Mumbai. Remember Prathviraj Chawan said these acts are committed by some foreign elements? He seems to be right. Mumbai Muslims definitely cannot be so mean and violent as to molest female policemen and hurt the males. These can only be the acts of Pakistani scoundrels.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju
    Sonia did say violence should stop and NE students/workers should eb able to work/study anywhere in india, and culprits should be punished severely.

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  • Anonymous

    The government, as usual, released a few statements, sent a request to Pakistan. Meanwhile the dreams and aspirations of almost 100,000 (has there been a definitive number- range?) NE students and workers have been destroyed or suspended.

    Hindu newspaper reported that four fleeing Assamese were thrown out of a running train from W Bengal to Assam and killed. They could not even reach their loved ones.

    What happened has happened. GOI could have or could not have done anything about it. But there s quite a lot Shinde and co can do to right the wrong.

    They should set up a help centre in Gawhati and other key centres in Assam staffed with senior officers. These people should function as middlemen to facilitate the relocation back between the Assamese student/worker and the college/employer. The affected personnel should be issued free tickets back and three- four days allowance.

    There has to be a properly staffed department in each affected states to resettle these guys when they get back. I will not object the creation of an NE Personnel Integration/welfare Departments formed in each state. After all, we have rupees and people allocated for the welfare of Muslims/minorities/and other disadvantaged groups..

    .

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    The Union Minister for Steel and Mines Beni Prasad Verma is on a visit to UP. He could give Economist Manmohan Singh and his fellow Sardar Montek Singh a run for their money. He has announced that the rising prices and inflation are good for farmers and the Economy.
    To a question he said Akhilesh Yadav is like his son …but Rahul Gandhi ….is like his Father .

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Na baap bada na bhaiya

    Sabse bada rupaiya…

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  • vijay !

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    ~~~~ AN AWKWARD QUESTION BY A NORTH EASTERNER ~~~~~~~~
    ==========================================================

    i MET a public sector officer from Arunachal at a freinds house today.

    The conversation turned to the unfortunate panic in the North Easterners,

    This man has decided to stay in Delhi.

    I will repeat his words and let the bloggers out here decide.

    “We NOrth east people are very simple people. We have started getting more and more integrated with Indian in the last 15-20 years as there are many good jobs in Mainland.

    Earlier some Arunachalis were impressed with China. But I think if Indian government does not punish people who created the panic, then lot of anger will happen.
    Many people will start to say that CHina government will hang the rumour spreaders. Indian government cannot do anything if North East guy is troubled….”

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  • Anonymous

    Mr. Sharma’s new blog is live now.
    See you there!!

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  • vijay !

    Great Post ! Congratrs Vinod Ji . After a long time … a 5 star rating

    BUT ONE IMPORTANT QUESTION

    a) The missing top leadership of the Congress

    b) The scare to bell the Islamic fundoos. It is easy to check Togadia… but Congress cant say a word o the rioters of Azad maidan

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Azad Maidan rioters and their instigators must be brought to justice. The political class must unite to fight them before it is too late.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Ishwar

    This is India. Everyone does vote calculations here as votes get you power and power gets you unlimited money.

    The photograph of the breaking of the Amr jawan Jyoti has angered Muslims also. In case the leaders of the agitation are captured , most Muslims will support it.

    However I don’t see the COngress having the balls to do this.

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  • vijay !

    I am reposting what I posted in the last blog in context of this new one

    ———————————————————————————————
    ~~~~ AN AWKWARD QUESTION BY A NORTH EASTERNER ~~~~~~~~
    ==========================================================

    i MET a public sector officer from Arunachal at a freinds house today.The conversation turned to the unfortunate panic in the North Easterners,This man has decided to stay in Delhi.I will repeat his words and let the bloggers out here decide.

    “We NOrth east people are very simple people. We have started getting more and more integrated with Indian in the last 15-20 years as there are many good jobs in Mainland.Earlier some Arunachalis were impressed with China. But I think if Indian government does not punish people who created the panic, then lot of anger will happen.

    Many people will start to say that CHina government will hang the rumour spreaders. Indian government cannot do anything if North East guy is troubled….”

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  • Anonymous

    Was it really the Facebook and Twitter?

    What do the Muslim masses read (at least in Delhi) and what kind of stories are being propelled for them?

    http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?282041

    How many news channels got agitated after reading this? The Assam girl (fake) molestation story became headline and ran 24X7 for weeks inviting heated panel discussions. Why is the same media hiding such TRUE stories? Would some one bring this (and similar) newspapers to book and ban them for life?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    A very very inflammatory article in Urdu press which Outlook and C M Naim talk about.. But then guys in the Urdu press who put up the pictures are prospective vote getters for all parties. I am 10,000 % confident that they will emerge stronger as they now sense their power of scaring communities in India.

    Imagine

    a) A fake morphed photo of Burma causes these morons to attack people in North East because they believe they are taking revenge on Buddhists and people from the Mongoloid race.l

    b) We have a joker called SM Kriashana as FM. A stronger more adept FM could have provoked China against Pakistan on this. After all , I have observed that Chinese are Buddhists mostly.

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  • Anonymous

    I have not participated in the discussion regarding what happened to the North East students and workers in Maharashtra and the Southern States. I was waiting for the fasting season to be over.

    I agree with Mr Sharma. For long, especially in the last ten years, our politicians have done everything to slice and dice India, and nothing to bring the country together. Congress deserves the majority of the blame; but other political parties are not guilt-free either.

    The protests march, the bulk messaging etc all were executed as the side result of Friday sermons in (some of the ) mosques across the country, as Asghar Engineer’s article (link below) explains.

    http://twocircles.net/2012aug17/outbreak_violence_mumbai.html

    But, apart from who did what, serious issues remain 1) Why was our intelligence and police in the dark – this was a well planned, well coordinated disruption striking at the core of our country 2) Or if they knew, did they let it grow for political or administrative games 3) Why hasn’t the political leaders and the so-called community leaders called a spade a spade (4) Who are the real culprits behind this – is it the rogue elements of ISI as Shinde states, or Muslim extremists here or Hindu/other mischief makers? What good it does for the government and for the country to complaint to the civilian government of Pakistan, if the bulk messages were sent by ISI operatives/sites as Shinde states.

    I was in the US in March-Aprii. The FBI/Homeland Security tracks people and institutions for terrorist activities. No terrorist activity has happened there after 9/11. I am told the activities in some of the mosques are monitored. They also monitor right wing whites’ activities.

    No American Muslim will ever organize a violent protest march against either a perceived injustice in the US or on something like the discrimination/expulsion of Mayanmar Muslims. Why should we do it here? How is the US democracy different form our democracy? Or, do some of us think that as minorities we can get away with murder – literally? Obviously, politicians stroke this, as Vinod Sharma indicates. But shouldn’t we grow up? Shouldn’t a thousand of Azim Premjis bloom? Shouldn’t hundreds of Amir Khans bloom? Our politicians and our community leaders constantly go after issues that do not have anything to do with our children’s education, our well-being, our freedom, our long-term welfare.

    The Government of India and the people of India should be quite careful and vigilant about the Salafi Islamic strain spreading through the Middle East, South East Asia, and South Asia. India should not consider all Muslims as vote banks, because there really is a group – Salafis – that is against all what India stands for. They are making inroads into newly democratic Middle East countries. Salafis won 25% in the Egyptian election. Salafis are fighting for a “virtue” that is inflexible and enforceable, and not necessarily for economic and political justice. Salafis are not jehadists, but more dangerous in the long term. They are well funded by Saudi Arabia. Our new friendship with Saudi Arabia is dangerous – they are helping us to catch a few terrorists here and there; but they will spread their Salafism here if we are not careful and nip it. Salafis are feared by moderate Muslims as well as “moderate Islamists’. My take is that the GOI is lumping all Muslims in one bucket; and not necessarily doing the segmentation needed to assess which group is influenced by the extremist Sunni movements such as Salafism. Hence the GOI policies make all Muslims upset with the government. No Indian Muslim will be upset if stern action is taken against the perpetrators. Nobody believes statements such as Pakistan is behind these; average Muslim considers this a hogwash. GOI should not have announced this even if it is true, if we cannot accomplish the desired end result from Pakistan.

    Let us hope we will not witness another panic like this due to the incompetence of our government.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Shoeb

    Well written. Belated Eid greetings (incase you missed my earlier mubarak !)

    Met a few Muslim friends and employees yesterday. Some of them said that they were angry that the Azad maidan protesters remained unpunished. It is at this time that leadership qualities need to be exhibited.

    The central leaders could have well gone to the railway stations to assure the North easterners that they were safe. Wish some Muslim intellectuals too had gone there too.

    We can have hindsight wisdom. Today HuJi and some kerala grousps have been found to be behind this rumour avalanche. Time to punish them, even though I beleive the Congress wont do this as its government in kerala is dependent on the Muslim league’s support.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    Eid Mubarak to you. Eid holidays are over here, life will be back to normal fom today.

    A good post. I just don’t see any logic behind protests in support of Muslims in other countries. There is some politics being played behind this. Scores of Muslims are being killed daily in Syria and I don’t see anyone talking about it. Is it because Muslims are killing Muslims there?
    May be people who are organizing these riots know that Syria issue will not arouse the sentiments of common Muslims in our country.
    Just yesterday 140 people were killed in Syria.

    By the way a good sensible article by Mr. Sharma

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    thanks for a very thought provoking post. I have a few ideas I would like to voice as response to your post.

    Amir Khan has the moral courage to hold the mirror to the entire Indian society, to show the evils and shortcomings afflicting it. Azim premji has the magnanimity to contribute hugely to the development of the whole Indian society. But the bitter truth is, sixty five years after independence, India’s Muslims society has slipped into the grip of dalals, peddlars of petty favours and mullahs who have nothing but gripe and victimhood to preach. There are no credible leaders in the whole Muslim society, which, would have helped it to see wht is good for itself.

    Our intelligence machinery is rotten, ill-equipped and neglected. None of the states or even the centre has a credible cyber-cop outfit, capable of responding to the crises like the present one.

    Your concern about the “salafi” stream of thought is a real one and the Muslim society should, soonest, engage itself with raising barriers against the free flow of this poison into the thought processes of its members.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    May your tribe increase in our country!!

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  • Anonymous

    Marketing.

    1. You see a gorgeous girl at a party. You go up to her and say: “I’m a very rich, Will you marry me?”Ans: This is “Direct marketing”.

    2. You at a party with a bunch of friends and see a gorgeous girl. One of your friend goes up to her and pointing at you and say:”He is very rich” Marry him?Ans: This is “Business advertising”.3. You are at a party and see a gorgeous girl. She walk up to you and says: “You are very rich” Can u marry me?Ans: This is “Brand recognition”.4.You see a gorgeous girl at a party. You go up to and say: “I’m very rich. Marry me?” She gives you a nice hard slap on your face.Ans: This is “Customer feedback”5.You see a gorgeous girl at a party. You go up to her and say: “I’m very rich. Marry me?” then she introduces u to her husband.Ans: This is “Demand and supply gap”.6. You see a gorgeous girl at a party. You go up to her and before u say: “I’m rich, marry me?” Your wife arrives-Ans: This is “Restriction for entering new markets”.

    Good morning friends.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    :)

    Marketing is an art… they always say…

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  • Anonymous

    Vinodji,

    A very thought provoking blog, after a series of insignificant ones. Your last blog on Olympics elicited 700+ responses, Regrettably, there were not even a handful on the subject of sports. This blog, happily will be different, because you are very near the truths concerning illegal infiltration, vote bank politics and pan-India character of the present day employment scene.

    However, I have a grouse against you personally. When the government has convenietly but utterly short-sightedly, shifted the blame on Pakistan and also expect Pakistan find a solution to our problems of cyber-nating of ill-will, you have conveniently opted for silence.

    You have also been very economical with your pen on the issue of infiltration, which you term “migration”. It is causing me migrane.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,

    Don’t expect Mr. Sharma to go anytime soon full throttle against Congress. Good that he has made a start at least. Gradually we may see more articles by him criticizing Congress.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    The acknowledgement coming from Mr Vinod Sharma , acute secularist is surprising … “Rather than concentrating on vote banks the time is to protect the unity and integrity of the country”… Probably he has started realizing that the heat is now inching closer home …. Der ayad durust ayad..a sane write-up and not the usual BJP bashing ..

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  • Anonymous

    Gujarat Pradesh Congress to give form for cheap houses

    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-08-14/ahmedabad/33200575_1_affordable-houses-toilet-rakshabandhan

    AHMEDABAD: The second round of distributing forms for affordable houses to
    the women electoral voters will begin from August 20, the birth anniversary of
    Rajiv
    Gandhi.
    Gujarat Pradesh Congress spokesperson Manish Doshi said that the drive will
    begin simultaneously in eight Municipal Corporation and 159 Nagar palikas in the
    state.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Very funny!

    If it is a Central government scheme how can the Congress office allocate the houses. Old philosphy. name the scheme as Rajiv Gandhi, Indira Gandhi and Jawhar lal and then use the taxpayers money to give credit to the royal family.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This time Congress has adopted a different strategy for the elections. They are not attacking Modi personally. Since about a year they have been organizing yatras all over Gujarat criticizing the policies of Gujarat government and questioning the achievements. This latest gimmick of offering cheap houses is
    super hit in Gujarat. It won’t be a easy ride of Modi this time. He has to come up with something novel to counter Congress’s
    initiatives.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    All central funds are peddled as COngress funds. Let us know how many cheap houses they gave in Delhi and Haryana.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Congress is already in power in a number of states. Let them offer these housing to women there to begin with.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    People of Gujarat have lapped up this offer by Congress and this
    may have some effect on the results of the elections. Whether Congress will be able to fulfill their promise is another matter but
    I would say that this is a brilliant idea to get votes. Thousands of
    women in Gujarat were seen clamouring to get these forms.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Modi will take the wind out of this fake campaign by showing that no Congress state has done this.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ask any married woman who is living in a rented house that
    what she wants. A house will be on the top of their priority
    list which will definitely contain many other things also.

  • Anonymous

    Shoeb, you are one of the 5 or 6 people for whom I used to come to the blog. Happy Eid to you and your lovely family sirjee. Excellent thoughts and total opposite of what that fake Ravi the India hating muslim wud have said!!
    The Assam violence and exodus from south India shows that ROMOUR IN INDIA IS STILL KING.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Balwinderji

    Welcome back. Look forward to seeing you more in this blog.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Balwinderji,

    why are you not replying to our million requests for your presence here?

    Now that fake Ravi has vanished from the scene, the discussions are more rational, issue based and free from rancour and abuse. ZDo visit often.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Shenoy and balwinder

    Yes Balwinder’s presence is required here..

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Balwinder

    I think Ravi has changed for the better and given up Jehadi activities for now. May the jehadi monster in him be killed forever…

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  • Anonymous

    Kerala based PFI (ex SIMI) involved in spreading the rumour -

    Remember my prediction that Kerala will be come the next Kashmir (may be after Assam!)

    http://news.oneindia.in/2012/08/21/kerala-based-popular-front-spread-the-rogue-ne-sms-s-1057030.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I doubt whether government will take any action against them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan-

    Gov will keep on ignoring these unless the political class care for the country as Vinod Sharma so eloquently wrote in his article.

    Worse are bureacrats. We should have officials such as Mr Sheshan to clean up the bureaucracy.

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  • Anonymous

    Here is Owaisi and his third wave for you! He is a dangerous man who should be put in jail.

    http://janamejayan.wordpress.com/2012/08/20/owaisi-muslims-and-third-wave/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Congress not taking any action against Owaisi or not even talking about his hateful speech though unacceptable but is understandable because they are in alliance with his party. What has surprised me that members of other political parties are not saying anything about this man. He was openly instigating violence but nobody has courage to confront him.
    This is very alarming and I suspect we will see more of such incidents and much more serious than the current one. Such matters should be firmly nipped in the bud.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    Agree. He should be in jail. His party should be banned. It is a SIMI in disguise.

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  • Anonymous

    Raj Thackrey leading a protest march against the Raza march is like the kettle calling the pot black.

    The rot in Mumbai began when his uncle started ShiV Sena. Now we have two monsters – the uncle’s Shiv Sena and the nephew’s MNS.

    thackrey ransacked public property during his anti toll march a few months ago. And four years ago his MNS killed two North Indians in an agitation against North Indians, very similar to the current anti-Assamese agitation by Muslims.

    Raza is bad. Muslim agitation/violence on Assam/Mayanmar is bad.

    So also MNS, Shiv Sena.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shiv Sena and MMS are goonda parties. Their policies are devisive and they are regulary involved in violence and destroying public property and
    sadly Indian State is very weak in taking firm actions against these rogue elements.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I beg to disagree. No matter what he or his party stands for, his present protest rally was much needed to show solidarity with the policemen who were beaten up a few days back by the Muslim goondas and couldn’t retaliate due to pressures from above.

    In his address, no body could find any communal or rabble-rousing language being used. The national media was keeping a tight watch to somehow make a story out of his speech, they were sorely disappointed. The rally was a huge success.

    He said: “We have always said we will not raise our hand against policemen. I have taken to streets in support on Marathi policemen”. The city police needed someone to stand up for them and he did.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Here also he could stop himself from playing politics. This is
    what he said during the speech
    “”Attackers came from UP, Jharkhand and Bihar. I fear we will continue to suffer due to people from outside,” he told the public meeting at Azad Maidan, harping on his pet pro-Marathi theme.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He has a constituency that he needs to cater to and that’s why I began my post with ” No matter what he or his party stands for, his present protest rally was much needed to…”

    A politician would always indulge in a bit of politics at every available opportunity. At least he stoop up for the city policemen, and that’s what I am applauding.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, Vijay Kumar, Ishwar,

    who knows, now onwards, MNS may focus only on Bangladeshi Muslims who too are occupying precious space in Mumbai.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Ishwar

    Raj Thakrey has conveniently stepped into the vacuum of the COngress which refuses to condemn the rioters.

    He will soon use this popularity for negative purposes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The last is a tongue-in-cheek remark, but very apt.

    All said and done, this rally by MNS is a morale booster for the Mumbai policemen.

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  • vijay !

    I think Kapil Si BB al is the winner in this war on social media. He was trying to put in curbs. Now he has got his valid reasons. SO instead of punishing the rioters of Azad Maidan and Owaisi and gang, they have found Pakistan and the social media.

    Well get ready for the curbs.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The govt. has taken the easy way out – blame Pakistan and put some curb on the social media. They are unable/unwilling to touch the Owaisi’s of the country.

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  • Anonymous

    NDTV reports:

    1. As the BJP demanded his resignation, the Prime Minister told NDTV that he is
    ready to make a statement in parliament about allegations that coal fields were
    sold cheaply on his watch, costing the government 1.86 lakh crores. “We are
    ready to discuss whatever the Opposition wants,” Dr Manmohan Singh said to NDTV today.

    2. As the BJP shouted its demand for the resignation of the Prime Minister, in the
    Rajya Sabha, Rajiv Shuka walked up to PJ Kurien, who had just been elected
    Deputy Chairperson of the Rajya Sabha, and was presiding over the house. Mr
    Shukla, who is Minister of State for Parliamentary Affairs, whispered to Mr
    Kurien that the house should be adjourned for the day.

    Two minutes later, Mr Kurien declared just that.

    Mr Shukla’s instructions were caught on Mr Kurien’s mic and the cameras that broadcast proceedings of the Upper House. “Pure din Ke liye House adjourn kara dijiye liye (Adjourn the House for the day),” he directed. “Yes,” responded Mr Kurien.

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  • Anonymous

    Mumbai Police registers a case against MNS for holding rally without permission.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan,
    I believe, muslim goons took the permission, and got approval at mantralaya. Fu…them

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And Muslim goons also had de facto and de jure permission to molest the policewomen on duty, vandalise the memorial for soldiers and also to snatch revolvers and SLRs from the policemen, who were under sgtrict oirders from the commissioner to surrender everything, including his women officers to the rowdies.

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  • Anonymous

    The coal-scam debate never happened in parliament – thanks to the efforts of honourable Rajiv Shukla ji and an obliging RS chairperson. Congress paid media is out to deflect the blame from then coal minister and current PM to some of the state governments who voiced their opinion in favour of allocation of coal-blocks as opposed to competitive-bidding.

    PathakG, Mahesh and Manohar are also missing. I still have a few things in mind and leave it to PathakG to carry on the debate (at a time of his choosing)
    Here they are:
    a) were the coal mines really allocated (for whatever reasons and to whoever) absolutely free of cost?
    b) if yes, what was the rational behind it and were there any checks placed to prevent misuse?
    c) if no, how were the cost of mines calculated/arrived at?
    d) did some companies get coal-blocks allocated to them who were not in the business of producing electricity?

    One of the vital nation’s natural resource worth lakhs of crores shouldn’t have been given away to private parties without any guaranteed/verifiable benefit to nation.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    For all natural resource extraction, we have a good and mature policy framework.

    As I mentioned earlier CAG uses low/marginal cost of CIL for arriving the cost for this so called scam while it uses Delhi’s sky-rocketing land prices for the so called Delhi Airport scam.

    Also refer to my above post for the selection process.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak G,

    Good morning.

    I don’t quite understand the concept of marginal cost. I won’t bother getting into it either. You say, we have a good and mature policy framework for natural resource extraction, please explain it in a lay man’s language. We can keep politics aside for a while.
    Have you really answered my questions a) and b)?
    I’d come to Delhi Airport scam in a bit.

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  • vijay !

    were you and ravi there?

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  • Anonymous

    Gopi and Shenoy, thanks for welcome. I did not read your previous invitations to me.
    Now Ishwar and others, pl you dont talk like bacchas. Thackeray and clan are thugs thru and thru. They thrive on Mumbais problems of over crowding and act only for Marathi manoos. They vandalise property and attack vulnerable outsiders. I say they are almost as bad as Owaisi.
    Good day to you Mohan, Vijay and others

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Thanks Balwinder.

    You are wanted dead and alive here !

    If you see a sad and defeated man on Havelock street, with jehad written on his undies… say our hullo to Ravi !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Hehe our Lahori Ravi is one sad twisted soul. What happens to our Dr Shan cigulategyris, is he still around licking white man bottom? Oh this blog was mad place hehe

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hehe our Lahori Ravi is one sad twisted soul. What happens to our Dr Shan cigulategyris, is he still around licking white man bottom? Oh this blog was mad place hehe

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Good to hear from you after a long time. I hope you are keeping in best of your health. If not very often please try visiting sometimes, It is always nice to hear from veterans of this blog.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Balwinderji,

    we did miss your light hearted banter, Punjabi Ishtyle.

    Yes, Raj Thakre is an evil and a proponent of Maratha supremacy.

    But, in the present situation, when the Mumbai police are soft pedaling the vandalism and molestation of women police, what he did as a challenge to the police commissioner is worth appreciating.

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  • pankaj#1

    Friends;
    I am coming to this blog after a long time. Last one month and more was very hectic. went to India,met friends and relations. Came back to North America. At Las Vegas, had a very hectic schedule. Saw Hoover Dam, saluted those brave hearts. Dam was built in 1930s, not much present day technology available at that time, conditions are so adverse, that, I said Toba, even as a visitor and those guys worked there? Project was finished 2 years ahead of scheduled time. Remembered Maruti and Gurgaon. Saw Grand Canyon, it is Grand, thought of our heritages being squandered and mismanaged, their management is superb. Saw the best show available at strip, remembered Kamla circus of childhood, felt depressed, those guys and girls were gems, did not get government or social support. Now, Bas… like Beni Prasad, Mulayams and Mayawatis are our karndhaars. What a quirk of fate.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Doc pankaj so nice to see you also drop by. Now only ppl missing are rajiiv, mishraji, Ashish, manohar, prabhat, rizwan, anyone know where ther are?

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Praji
    Yes, I am also missing all those persons. I have been warned not to go foing in house and out side, but what the heck.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji, Balwinderji,

    yes, both of you are welcome. We did miss you, particularly Balwinderji, because pankaj ji did visit the blog even if briefly and less often.

    We do miss Rajeev, Rajiiv, Ashish, Dr.Mishra and Rizwan. And also, equally, Shaan.

    Prabhat, Prahlad and Sanjay are very unlikely to report for duty here anymore. But, we are happy to have, in their place Pathakji, who does a splendid job of defending the indefensible: The dynasty, the dynasty’s disfunctional government and the disfunctional government’s brain-dead existence.

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  • pankaj#1

    All,
    Raj Thakrey Jindabaad.
    Would love to chonch ladao with manohar and/ or PathakG. BTW, went to HT corporate office and tried to meet you there, but was thwarted by overjelous security.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    For chonch ladao, you have to be around when the issues are discussed.

    [ Couldn't you manage to talk to Vinodji over the intercom ? You should have sent in a request saying an old friend from USA paying a surprise visit ]

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    So the present dispensation has succeeded in bringing Affrica/ Chatoic states to India? Ably supported by Vinod and Sardesais? M.F. Hussains of all hues had a field day. Few SMS by mischief mongers was enough to cause upheavel?? That is UPA.
    Narendra tum kahan ho, ukhad pheneko in namardon ko. Nest nabood kardo in haramiyon ko. Hum tumarhe saath hain.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Bring those Owaisis and Aligarhis to North America.
    Pajame maain peshaab na kardi to….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes,

    our secularism is so weak, so sissy, so afraid of Islamic fundoo bullies that it can only sit and wring its hands in false despair.

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  • Anonymous

    Never criticize your wife for her shortcomings or when she does something wrong. Always bear in mind that because of her shortcomings and weaknesses, she could not find a better husband than you.

    Good morning friends.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Also, she is not able to fix you on your various escapades.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    Vijay Kumar, Pankaj ji, Mohan,
    Remember he slapped Taslima Nasreen and asked his Razakar goons to kill her, when she had come to Hyderabad?

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  • Anonymous

    Yesterday I had posted a link where Congress was offering houses in
    Gujarat. Here is an article on the same how Congress is trying to misguide/fool the people of Gujarat in guise of offering them houses.
    ——-

    Congress pulls a scam in Gujarat.

    http://www.niticentral.com/2012/08/congress-pulls-a-scam-in-gujarat.html

    [Reply]

    KuldeepSingh Reply:

    If promising low cost houses is a scam then all poll promises are scams whether from Congress or BJP. Did the writer talk about any specific scam part except in the headline ? It’s not necessary that the scheme must be operational. Since there are limited number of houses ( 3,00,000) are being promised, the distribution of forms is necessary for allotment through lottery. Even you have not talked about any specific scam while talking about the news.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I said that Congress is trying to misguide/fool the public of Gujarat.
    It is the writer of the article who sees scam in this promise. I would
    still say that this is a brilliant move by Congress which will get them
    many votes. It is altogether another matter whether they will keep their promise.

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  • Anonymous

    TAJENDER, hehe want to know where he is? He is on PTH Pakistan Tea House on the latest article by RHR. He was just caught by me impersonating someone called ahem. Malum nahin how many secret identities he has trolling everywhere.
    On serious note, incidents like Assam violence make us look bad in muslim world and motivate more terrorists to attack India. Law and order must be first priority, India forgets that.
    i think, sadly, MODI FOR PM, no other choice possible

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  • Anonymous

    Earlier quotas for admission in schools and colleges, qoutas for jobs, now quotas for promotions. Wondering what will come next that will fetch votes?

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  • pankaj#1

    Engrich;
    No problem with Aliggarians per se. My problem is with people like Owaisi and his ilk. Aliggarians share more than its natural quota of fundoos. They were also in the forefront of Pakistani movement.

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  • Dr Mishra

    DEEP SEA WRECK DIVING IN MALTA
    ——————————————————-
    Beloved praaji, thanks for your email. Glad to know your health has improved but sadly I will not be able to participate in this debate as I am on holiday. But nice to see Shoeb, Gopi, Shenoy, Vijay, Mohan, Ishwar, Pankaj and even engrich going strong.
    belated happy independence day all- I am now an advanced deep sea diver qualified by PADI and am into exploring wrecks- ships sunk in WW2. Exciting and dangerous hobby haha
    I learned a lot on this blog in the past, and hope to come back more fully one day. Believe it or not I am typing this from a cybercafe in Sliema waterfront run by- yes you guessed it- a nice Gujrati family. Can you believe it- Indians everywhere, even in off the beaten track Malta. Cheerio all, and welcome Kuldeep SINGH nice to see new blood

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Welcome back Dr. Mishra.

    Have you manged to see the wrecks of HMS Hellespont, Eddy or St. Angelo yet?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Dr Mishra must have defeinately seen one wreck…

    One broken drunken man, walking hand in hand with his male lover,

    Muttering jehad … jehad…. rape… 5000 rape… 10,000 rapes., one million rapes… subah shaam rape… rape hi rape… jehad jehad,,,

    yes, ravi and Engrich walking hand in hand… on a beach in Malta…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    F*A*N*T*A*S*T*I*C

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well thanks!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Welcome back. Good to hear after a long time from you and Balwinder Praji. Enjoy your diving and if by any chance you happen to find any old
    treasure while diving don’t forget to share with your fellow bloggers.
    And yes, we Indians are everywhere.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr.Mishra,

    welcome back to the blog, even if for a brief interlude.

    I am sorry that you are wasting your time 20000 leagues under the sea looking for wrecked ships.

    Please immediately visit India. The MMS-Sonia Gandhi ship is all but wrecked and in a few days time it will go down under.

    Since it is heavily laden with loot of $2.5 Trillion, it will sink fast.

    SO HURRY. ……..PLEASE.

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  • Anonymous

    I won’t like to see any one from the BJP on prime time TV even remotely talking about coal-scam tonight. It is shameful to shy away from a debate in the parliament and then show up on TV doing exactly the same thing.

    The Congress is out blaming the NDA and other opposition ruled state CMs for having opposed the auctioning of coal-blocks. The BJP could do well by participating in the debate in parliament tomorrow morning and exposing the PMO’s role. Manmohan Singh is under no pressure to resign – not allowing parliament sessions solves no purpose.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    That is why I always suspect that all are in collusion. BJP’s demand of
    resignation is ridiculous, they know very well that PM will never resign.
    Sab saale chor hain.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    They shouldn’t have started taking a high moral ground if they knew they were themselves involved (however marginally). Of course, the coal blocks were allocated to the favourites in a non-transparent manner and it clearly served no purpose for which it was envisaged at the first place – i.e. to make coal available to meet its ever growing demand which the Coal India Ltd was unable to meet.

    The fact is – most of the coal blocks have been acquired by private companies who haven’t even started mining. Some of them gathered them and are sitting pretty on it. Clearly, there was no urgency to have them allocated and we could have waited for a few more years till the time we had made changes to the MMDR act allowing competitive bidding.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You never really followed the basic questions that I had posed few days about this so called coal scam.

    1) Starting 2005, just after UPA1 took over, the opposition states opposed the auction process ( like they always do about any proposal). And they gave it in writing and it’s on the record.

    2) Major coal blocks are in opposition ruled states.
    [ There must be something sinister about NDA ruling most of the mineral rich states ! ]

    3) The screening committee comprised of the Chief Secy / Govt. representatives and bureaucrats from these ( opposition ) states. Naturally, the committee was heavily tilted in favour of the NDA rukked states.

    4) Small players like you and me can’t get these kind of contracts even if we knew PM or Sonia’s driver or cook. The top industrial houses of this country bagged these contracts. If reliance can raise billons of rupees from the market promising power projects, there is no way a Govt. bureaucrat can doubt their intention. Same with Tata etc.

    5) CAG very lovingly takes the “market price” for Delhi Airport project, but uses ” Low Cost ” of Coal India for so called coal scam while calculating the LOSS.

    Very discerning thought, infact.

    Well there is no way of knowing if the fish drank water !!

    [ By the way, CIL is like MTNL and BSNL. Their market cap is misleading. CIL can fall apart in just few years once private players get going in the Coal Sector. The cost may be high in case of the private players, but the efficiency is outstanding. ]

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Pathak G;
    Your comments make sense and are nonsense at the same time. Howcome you defend indefensible all the time? Please call a spade as spade to be taken seriously. I am not a troll, I will castigate anyone and everyone, whom I see as working against interests of India. Can engage with you on any topic,BTW, I know, who you are.
    HaHa.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please let me know who he is? It would double my fun.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ishwar;
    PathakG is a respectable person of integrity. Baaki cheejain, chhupi rahana chahiye.

    Anonymous Reply:

    1) Does the UPA govt. takes all the decisions based on NDA govt. suggestions and opposition?

    2) Major coal blocks are in NDA ruled states – if Congress can’t win there, its their problem.

    3) Was the allocation fair? How were the applications shortlisted and blocks allotted, the CAG points to a lack of transparency there. CVC has already asked the CBI to look into it.

    4) Agree 100%.

    5) As everyone is saying, the figures are not sacrosanct, however, it is wrong to say that there has been no scam and all this is hot air. Someone has benefitted and the alocation should be cancelled as was the case with 2G.

    The day Subramaniam Swamy decided not to touch the case, I knew there is nothing in the report that could be good enough to nail the PM.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Like on Salman Khan rides investments worth 500 crores,
    On Manmohan Singh rides salaries and perks of 550 MPs worth 2000 crores. So nobody benefits by his quitting now.

    There is also the possibility that he may even go further down on the “badnaami” scale, which is all to the advantage of the BJP.

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  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS…………………………….BREAKING NEWS
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    WHAT THE MAINSTREAM/NATIONAL MEDIA IS TOO EMBARRASSED TO REPORT
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Ever since the exodus of NorthEastern Indians began on 15th August, Bangalore bore the brunt of the problem, because it had the highest number of students, BPO workers, IT professionals, fashion Industry personnel and even security staff from the North East, amongst the five cities of Mumbai, Pune, Chennai, and Hyderabad, besides of course Bangalore.

    From the 16th August, when the gravity of the situation dawned upon the people and also the leaders, the RSS took the lead in trying to prevail upon the departees, who otherwise wouldn’t budge, because they were scared to death.

    The RSS deployed 250 volunteers in full uniform, daily from morning to midnight, without break, in disciplined shifts, to talk to the North Eastern friends. They were also accompanied by the Dy.Chief Minister, Ashoka and Law minister, Suresh Kumar, who camped in the Railway Station for 13 hours continuously, without giving up on their efforts. The volunteers and the ministers had met more than 20,000 people who made the exodus.

    The trains, both regular and special, each carried upwards of 4000 passengers, who were given food packets and drinking water as well as soft drinks, the supply of which was arranged by contributions from charitable and philanthrophic institutions, including Jain Samaj, Iskcon etc.

    The train passengers were taken good care of by RSS volunteers at Chennai, Vijaywada, Puri and Kolkatta too. The whole operation was performed with clock work precision, without giving scope for chaos, confusion and glitches in the supply chain.

    But the whole exercise, officially as well as organisationally, may not have achieved much in dissuading the people on the run, but nobody, including the congress opposition, could fault the state government for not trying enough. Even the ever inimical Bharadwaj, the governor, was all praise for the administration and the police, who did in fact stem the tide and even reversed it in good time.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Our country is secular and our government jointly with our media
    always try their best to keep the secular image of our country intact.
    By praising RSS and condemning minorities will send a wrong signal
    to the world and we may be seen as Non-secular hardliners. That is the
    only reason our intelligent patriotic media rightly reports only such news
    which should not spoil our great secular image.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Zia in his blog twisted the whole RSS thing to make them responsible for the panic in someway

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  • Anonymous

    Gopi,

    in my 35 years of bank service, I have the unique record of not having gone on strike even a single day!

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  • Anonymous

    Auction of coal blocks will hit industry, Oppn said in 2005

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/auction-of-coal-blocks-will-hit-industry-oppn-said-in-2005/991902/

    ==========
    Coal allocation: Govt points to facts to counter CAG claims

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/coal-allocation-govt-points-to-facts-to-counter-cag-claims/991850/1

    ==========

    Shenoy’s FEDERALISM at play.
    Time for the “new convert” to jump in white shoes wearing neon goggles with a signage ” MY GOGGLES ARE DARKER THAN COAL. I WAS BJP-NEUTRAL”.

    @Pankaj

    Do I really defend the indefensible ?

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    PathakG;
    defending weaks and unprotected people is a noble thing. defending known corrupts, coming from ruling elite is indefensible. I will not put all the blame on you as I am not in the hustle and bustle of Indian politics but I feel, here picture gets clearer from afar or is it getting blurred??

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj, please share who you know/think PathakG really is.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ishwar;
    I like your hard hitting posts. You are an intelligent person. Your surmise is correct. Many people have said, parde main rahane do…..

  • Anonymous

    CAG, Credit and Credibility

    TFR : Truth To Falsehood Ratio : Less than 10%

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/cag-credit-and-credibility/991197/4

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  • Anonymous

    A lady walked into a drug store and told the pharmacist she
    needed some cyanide.

    The pharmacist asked, “Why in the world do you need cyanide?”

    she said that she needed it to poison her husband.

    The pharmacist’s eyes got big and he said, “I can’t give you cyanide to kill your husband!

    That’s against the law! I’ll lose my license..and we both will end up in jail”
    The lady reached into her purse and pulled out a picture of her husband having dinner in a restaurant with pharmacist’s wife.

    The pharmacist looked at the picture and replied,

    “Well, You didn’t tell me you had a prescription”

    Good morningg friends

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  • Anonymous

    Once I urged one of my very successful industrialist friend to “professionalise” his organisation. His reply was quite revealing. He said he does not plan to retire soon. If I consider him to be unprofessional, then even if he hires 500 professionals, his one unprofessional decision can nullify all sane and professional advices from these industry professionals and none of them would object fearing losing their jobs.

    Same issue here. Lead auditors come up with findings which are over-ruled, forced to sign on the cover note without showing the changes. Even sometime they are forced not to interact with the ministry whose account they audit. Perhaps it’s time for another CAG to supervise this CAG.

    This CAG heads 58,000 professionals.

    What a value degradation !

    Will we be needing a Lokpal to supervise another lokpal ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I learn that he is not a graduate, he never passed IAS and is thoroughly unprofessional, not knowing which side is credit and which is debit

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You missed the point.

    If the top guy is irrational, any rational observations and decisions by the managers below him can become irrational.

    BTW, my friend is an Engineer from IIT.

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  • Anonymous

    Olympics bronze medalist, Mary Kom says she would like to shift to Bangalore as “Bangalore’s people are gentle and helpful. ALso the climate in Bangalore is very good”.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Tendulkar didn’t gift a BMW to Saina.
    He merely presented.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I also know it for a fact, because I never expected Tendulkar to be driven by his heart. He is a hard headed businessman.

    What I pointed out is the patent inequity of it all.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What I read was that he had gifted BMW to Saina and her coach
    Gopichand

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You read only the headline. ( bad journalism )

    Anonymous Reply:

    I thought only my English was poor but it seems that the people who reported this are not better than me.

    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/sachin-tendulkar-gifts-bmw-car-to-saina-nehwal/283606-5-23.html

    Anonymous Reply:

    …..
    The felicitation function was organised by Vice President of Andhra
    Badminton Association Chamundeshwari Nath, who honoured the city girl by
    buying her the luxurious car.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ab yeh bhi bataayiye ki BMW kissne di.

    Anonymous Reply:

    AP State Federation.

  • Anonymous

    “Gujarat 2002 upset and shook me up. Many Tweeters have sincerely tried to convince me that Narendra Modi was not responsible. I, sincerely, have not been convinced so far, since I have seen stories with evidence and footage that show the opposite. But an article like this one by Setalvad-Anand is enough to turn me into what is called an Internet Hindu. India cannot afford to have different rules of engagement based on people’s religion, caste or gender. I believe that is enshrined in our Constitution. Destroying the Constitution for a vote-bank is worse corruption than black money. An incendiary article by Setalvad-Anand can do as much damage as violence in Azad Maidan. To paraphrase Arun Shourie: This is bending over backwards.”…….Madhu Trehan in Indian Express.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/bending-over-backwards/991200/0

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  • Anonymous

    20% of banned hate sites put up by Hindu groups :

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/20-of-banned-hate-sites-put-up-by-Hindu-groups/articleshow/15609191.cms

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    In these posts doctored images or videos showing alleged atrocities against tribal Bodos by Muslims have been tagged with provocative captions and point to extremist Hindu groups trying to fish in troubled waters to target minorities and fan tensions.

    —-

    Agencies have also found clues indicating a large number of SMSs that spread panic among the northeast Indians living across the country were also generated by fringe Hindu groups. The panic led to a mass exodus of people from the north-east from several cities, including Pune, Bangalore and Chennai.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    PathakG’
    A simple question. Are there illegal muslim infiltrators in Assam? Yes or no. If yes, what GOI has done about it?? if GOI and its minions will not do anything, has the Bodo people rights to defend their home and hearth. Yes or No???

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  • Anonymous

    Stock market has not reacted negatively to this news of Coal gate. Since
    almost two weeks markets are going up without any significant interruption.

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  • vijay !

    jumping Jeetu always had good battles with Prem Chopra, Pran and madan puri, the villians of his time.

    You can choose which one suits you best. Now the fact is you have given us a choice of 3 PMs in your postings…

    a) Baby G, Priya G and Robert G

    Can you tell us how your projected PMs reacted during the time of crises. When the RSS came forward to help the North easterners… all the cowards hid. Now the crises is over… they are going to blame the RSS…

    Yeh hai India meri Jaan…. !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    When any thread is posted and you initiate any discussion on that, stick to the discussion.

    I prefer a clean thread for myself and all other bloggers to follow.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    As per you the thread is clean in case Advani , RSS and BJP is blamed.

    Of course it becomes dirty in case the Hathkanda of Digviansh is revealed… the incompetence of Shinde is exposed, the lack of vision of Baby G is talked about…

    Pathak G my senoir brother… this is a democracy thanks to us Indians. Let us, humble Indians have a voice too

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Do not mix up the subject of the thread. It’s easier to follow the sequence of discussion.
    You can always start a new thread if you want to discuss a new subject other than what is being discussed in that particular thread.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But, Pathakji, if you consider the population of Hindus, 80% of India is Hindus, exceeding 1 billion and only 20% hate sites? That too without any authenticity as to the figures?

    The media is also silent on the deaths of 5persons who died at Jalpaiguri after being thrown out of the Guwahati train from Bangalore.

    My information is that these were Bangladeshi infiltrators, returning along with the NE Indians to cause trouble in Assam.

    Why this kind of selectivity?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like you haven’t read 80-20 theory.
    80% get bad name because of silly 20%.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are absolutely right on this one, Pathakji.

    because of the silly 20% mulsims, the whole of India has got bad name.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Remember that when you demonise indian Muslims.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I hardly need to demonise our Muslim brethren.
    They are doing it themselves and very well too.

    But, I feel your congress leaders have ruined the peacefulness of India’s Muslim community by allowing uncontrolled entry to Bangladeshi infiltrators.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you think you are changing for the better, then you are welcome.

  • Anonymous

    Coal scam: We will gherao residences of
    PM, Nitin Gadkari, says Arvind Kejriwal

    Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/we-will-gherao-residence-of-pm-nitin-gadkari-arvind-kejriwal/1/214320.html

    Alleging that Congress and BJP were hand-in-glove on the coal block allocation issue, erstwhile Team Anna on Thursday announced gherao of the residences of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and BJP chief Nitin Gadkari on Sunday

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gadkari will serve them chai, pakoda.
    Poor guys will go hungry at the PM’s residence.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You think our PM is as poor as the church mouse?

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    They are Gadkari’s “apne log”.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    Looks like Arvind kejriwal is an avid follower of Vinodji’s blog and he has read your comment about the congress and BJP joining hands in the corruption.

    I think he agrees with you and intends to take action on the basis of what you have written.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    You have given me a nice idea. Looks like many people read this blog so I will start advertising products
    of my son’s company here .

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  • Anonymous

    Bad journalism, poor badminton and lousy cricket.

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  • Anonymous

    Delhi Airport Scam:

    Lets not mix it up wit the coalgate. the CAG has also objected to the development fee that passengers at the Delhi airport are charged – they pay between Rs. 400 and Rs. 2600, depending on whether they’re flying omestically or internationally. The auditor said this tax was not part of the original contract, and that the fee gives DIAL an undue benefit of over Rs. 3,415 crore. GMR nfra is a majority share holder in DIAL and it has only brought up equity worth 1800 crores.

    Forget the fancy figures. PathakG, please explain who has allowed a change in the OMDA?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    No explanation for corruption. A contract was given without negotiation for 30 years… we are told that sab chalta hai…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Absolutely, according to the CAG, a cabinet note issued in 2003 specifically envisaged an initial concession period of 30 years which could be extended by another 30 years subject to “mutual agreement and negotiation of terms”.

    However, the condition envisaged in cabinet note was omitted from operation management development agreement (OMDA) which was signed in April 2006.”This is not only a violation of the commitment in the cabinet note but is also a unilateral and unfair advantage given to DIAL which is detrimental to government interest as it does not provide the government any scope for review of any of the conditions,” the auditor said in its report.

    Use NDA ruled state govt. recommendations/suggestions in allocation of coal blocks because it suits you. Dump their official cabinet decision to favour someone else in changing rules in case of Delhi Airport. Taking moral high ground – huh!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What was the mutual agreement ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I see you haven’t answered the question on allowing a change in the OMDA to allow charging of a development fee yet. Anyways, how did we benefit by extending the lease by another 30 years?

    Anonymous Reply:

    You didn’t explain the mutual agreement.

    BTW who is the other Partner?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Of course the govt.

    The point here is: the clause of “mutual agreement and negotiation of terms” was omitted in the agreement. And thus CAG rightly notes:
    “This is not only a violation of the commitment in the cabinet note but is also a unilateral and unfair advantage given to DIAL which is detrimental to government interest as it does not provide the government any scope for review of any of the conditions.”

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please help yourself :

    http://www.deccanherald.com/content/272272/cag-slams-development-fee-concessional.html

    ===
    The ministry also pointed out that the levy of development fee was in the knowledge of all the bidders prior to the bidding process. It said the levy was not a post contractual benefit provided to DIAL at the cost of passengers and that it was upheld by the Supreme Court ( 2008 ), which has already examined and rejected all the issues now being raised by CAG in its report
    =====

    Anonymous Reply:

    The question before the Court was that the Ministry of Civil Aviation issued an order on February 9, 2009 allowing Delhi International Airport Limited (DIAL) to levy a development fee. The question before the apex court was, is the Ministry of Civil Aviation competent to allow DIAL to levy DF. The Court said no.

    Verify yourself…

    http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/logistics/article3785692.ece?homepage=true&ref=wl_home

    Anonymous Reply:

    ……

    We are not saying (it is) a favour to GMR (but) to DIAL, the joint venture.

    What will be the recommendation to Government? Will you ask them to relook OMDA?

    No. We are not suggesting that. We do not think that OMDA can be
    removed. But this is for the future because a lot of other airports are
    coming up.

    Anonymous Reply:

    He is not talking about development fee here. He is talking about land transfer. He clearly says that SC had said no to charging of any development fee.

    The govt. gives you land at a concessional rate, pools in equity, and if there is a cost over-run for whatever reason, why do I have to suffer as a passenger? The cost over-run needs to be taken care by the promoter/builder and can’t be passed on to the users. The govt. has given you enough, at least spare the passengers.

    Anonymous Reply:

    …..

    A two-judge bench held that development fees cannot be levied or
    collected on the basis of just authority letters issued by the central
    government but only if there was clear approval from the airports
    economic regulatory authority. Consequently, Mumbai airport has been
    barred from levying the fees, while Delhi airport will be able to
    continue to levy the fees, reports CNBC-TV18.

    Sidharath Kapur, CFO � Airport at GMR Group said that the Airport
    Economic Regulatory Authority (AERA) has allowed The Delhi International
    Airport Limited (DIAL) to charge airport development fee. However, the
    moot point of the Supreme Court order is the ADF collections should be
    done for upgradation, and modernisation of Delhi airport.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Judge bhi bikane lage? :D :D

    Anonymous Reply:

    You recently met Mamta ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please help yourself :

    http://www.deccanherald.com/content/272272/cag-slams-development-fee-concessional.html
    ==

    vijay ! Reply:

    Well said ishwar. We are seeing abdication of responsibility.

  • Anonymous

    PathakG,

    Vijay didn’t spoil the thread – it’s you. His post is completely related to the issue. All he is saying is that the Congress paid media has tried to add a spin. What action has the govt. taken against Owaisi? How many channels have ran primetime debate to seek action against people of his tribe? The same channels go overboard asking for justice for Jessica and Ruchika!!

    The disgusting headline could well have said that 80% of the banned sites were put by Muslim groups. But, that wouldn’t look secular, would it?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If the media does what you are suggesting than that will
    ’spoil’ our image of secularism.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sort it out between you and Vijay who gave the spin.
    Me or the media ?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Spin is okay…. no ball action like Murlitharan, makes spin unpalatable…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If you post something without condemning the spin therein, it would suggest that you agree with it. If not, at least enjoying the deliberate attempt to mislead.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Posting news and giving active logic are two different things.
    BTW what did you find objectionable in the article ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    The headline

    Anonymous Reply:

    That’s pure numerical, based on the number of sites that have been tracked so far.

    Anonymous Reply:

    How about replacing 20% Hindu with 80% Muslims?

    Anonymous Reply:

    The news about Pakistani muslims has already been published and known. The active participation of Hindu group in spreading the rumour wasn’t known.

    Actually I was thinking how could dog’s tail got straighten overnight !

    After all, it’s dog’s tail……

    Anonymous Reply:

    where?

    Anonymous Reply:

    In a private note of the home secretaty to the HM!

    Anonymous Reply:

    As recommended by you in the past, I don’t care about the Pakistanis. I am talking about the Muslims of local variety – Owaisi is the specimen.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Did I care about Pakistani?
    I was thinking about my beloved Hindu brothers.

    Anonymous Reply:

    In a panel discussion on NDTV, Barkha Dutt was almost embarrassed to even mention his name!

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Bad journalism …or an inept news desk ?

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Pathakji follows the usual Congress line…. fine.. he is a strong believer in the Congress Party and its promoter family . So he blames the CAG for his reports.. . He would have been happy if the CAG had been like the earlier ones , just looking at expenditure incurred , whether sanctions were taken from the authorities competent to sanction just nitpicking here and there. This is the first CAG who is doing a TN Seshan, who is effectively auditing and revealing the way the this govt has been looting and plundering in the name of Govt autonomy with Policy. He found fault with Gen V K Singh… it is different matter that according to CBI ,Tetra was a ripp- off . But he could not say anything when the SC gave the boot to pretender CVC Thomas . He mocked Anna and Baba Ramdev . He mocks the popular demand for an effective and autonomous Lokpal. He attempts commercial logic for the sweet heart deal with GMR ……but what will he say about what Sunil Arora complaned about Air India .
    He wishes that all authority should be in the hands of the political executive … who can loot and plunder … and may share part of it with those who sing their song. This what UPA2 has been all about .
    All in the government knew there is a dummy PM ….. a Mitte ke Madho ……To Jo Loot Sako Woh Loot.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen Saxenaji,

    very succinctly put. But, I do see one point of Pathakji’s perspective.
    If in the absence of a Lokpal, so many scams are tumbing out of the congress cupboard, what will it be if there is a Lokpal to listen to and look into complaints of corruption against the ministers and MPS?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Each and Every so called scam is falling apart. One by one.

    But you are right. With a Lokpal around even your allegation about Shyama Prashad will be taken up immediately and the poor chap will be thrown out without waiting for the final finding. By the time, the truth is out, the damage would have been done.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Why Shyam Pershad?Why not Mohan das?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Because despite your strong faith and belief in Shyama Prashad’s integrity, it still can happen.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If not A, how about B, ok …B was not there…then P ! Oh I wasn’t thinking deeply about P…then what about X? okkk ..X is not appealing…perhaps XX…okkk….XX wasn’t really a case at all……too mild…….then what about *** !!!!!!!!!

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    He He… Hee Hee… Ho Ho

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Saxena sahab;
    This He He..Hee Hee…Ho Ho, made me laugh to no end.
    Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    Mumbai police commissioner, Arup Patnaik is unceremoniousl;y shunted out.

    Till yesterday, all our seculars were lauding the exemplary manner in which he surrendered to the terrorists in the Mumbai riots of 8th August, in which women police were molested, their dresses torn, guns snatched and Amar Jawan Memorial destroyed.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Shenoy Saab
    Patnaik had to go in either case. If he had taken action against the Rioters ..the vote-bank would have made him go . That is the hazard of being a top civil servant in a corrupt and immoral political system. He chose to follow the the govt line and did not allow his force to act even when the rioters were looting , molesting police women , snatching arms, firing , killing , destroying national monuments .
    Faced with the hobson ’s choice … I do think it would have been better if he had acted like a policemen , acting aganst the contravention of law…
    ….But do contrast this episode with what happened in Delhi when the then Poice Commsr mounted a midnight attack on women old men and children when they were sleeping at the Ram Lila Maidan . He did it … because they were soft targets and did not constitute a vote-bank. For that heroism we can be sure he shall be rewarded soon by this govt.
    That is how vote-bank politics works in India.

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  • Anonymous

    Another example of lazy work either by CAG or ToI??

    The story says: In case of a nuclear accident in India at present, the maximum fine that can be
    imposed by the regulator on an offending nuclear plant is Rs 500. “The maximum amount of fine (Rs 500) was too low to serve as a deterrent against
    such infringements,” the CAG said after a detailed audit of the regulator which
    is responsible for review of safety aspects of nuclear power plants and of all
    radiation facilities across the country.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Now-CAG-focuses-on-lax-nuclear-safety/articleshow/15608239.cms

    From what I know, this information is incorrect. I am yet to figure out who has missed some zeroes CAG or ToI?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The press always misses zeroes. And the worse is eonomic/trade press!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The ToI is sensationalising the story. Interestingly, the CAG report indeed talks about Rs 500, but that is only in context of powers of AERB. We have enough safeguards. The BJP ensured this in the Nuclear Liability Act passed by parliament in 2010. As per the act,
    the maximum amount of liability in case of each nuclear accident is 500 crore (US$90.5 million) to be paid by the operator of the nuclear plant, and if the cost of the damages exceeds this amount, Special drawing rights up to 300 million will be paid by the Central Government.

    We can relax!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Very soon, like south korea, India too would get into the nuclear trade and start supplying nuclear equipments to the rest of the World particularly in Africa etc.
    Then India too would be liable. So there was a debate what would be this figure….I guess this 500 `crores is debatable.

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  • Anonymous

    The “energy challenge” may be the biggest challenge facing India – Washington Post

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/satisfying-indias-thirst-for-power-could-be-nations-biggest-challenge/2012/08/22/65f6c6d2-e21c-11e1-98e7-89d659f9c106_story.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The need evaluation, strategy for power was done six years back. Now we are really into the execution mode. Honestly, the protracted approach already taken has started bearing fruit. Every state is moving close to the power surplus level. So, it’s just matter of time. I am not sure if power needs any further critical discussion.

    More than power, we need an integrated approach to the agriculture.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    I dont hink that is happening. A state like UP produces 13000 MW of power for 18 crore people. Power cuts happen for hours and hours beyond NOIDA. Industry is collapsing. Delhi… has long power cuts… at 3500 MW for 1.5 crore people

    I think you are way off target on this.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Surprisingly, the lowest power tariff in UP has created the maximum power deficit where as Delhi with highest power tariff has lowest power deficit.

    This actually reflects the priority in the Governance. In last few years, we all know the priority in UP was different.

    Hope things to improve with the new Govt. Though I doubt. We are too close to the next election and the Govt in UP may not have this as a real priority. I think things might change after 2015.

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Pathak

    Things are getting worse. One factory I had built has been vacated by its owner.

    Why?

    Under the previous government they had to pay up local goons once in three months. Now they pay up three times the amount every month.

    Anil ambani’s power plant in Dadri may come up with 10,000 MW power. But it is likely that he may ask for a tariff which people of UP wont pay

    Anonymous Reply:

    People would resist initially, but eventually pay. They will pay regularly once supply is assured.

    vijay ! Reply:

    In Delhi we pay quite a bit. For my office I pay roughly 9 Rs a unit after all the charges. I guess if it is fair billing then it is okay.

    Enrons can happen in case the process is not trnasparent.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathak-

    “It is just a matter of time” — Is it geological time or 3-5 years?

    All the news coverage here (may not be true/may be biased) is that every big house/hospital/BPO centre/factory has its own power generators because state does not have reliable electricity except Gujrat.

    If what you state is true, it is a great great news indeed, assuming the time frame is short term.

    The only way India can meet aspirations of its people is with adequate energy.

    Food supply also is important – assuming the country grows at 10% or close, the country will have the wherewithal to import food. Energy cannot be imported.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In next 5 years we would see a remarkable difference. There could have been some augmentation by now but for the environment ministry. Though, well intented, the environment ministry went for “no-go” policy for mining in heavily forested areas. In India, we still heavily depend on the coal for our energy need.
    Nuclear Power industry is yet make its presence felt.
    Heavy rains increase the silt level in river too often and disturb the hydel projects in the hills.
    Alternative energy like wind, solar are still very marginal.
    If executed with due diligence, nuclear can really play a lead role.
    We need atleast 100000 MW for a sustainable 9% growth !

    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Binoy

    Somewhere I feel the world is not matured enough to go for nuclear power with Fukishama and Talban all around…

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  • pankaj#1

    Good One, Shenoy sahab.

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  • vijay !

    Vijay Kumar manages to take on the land mafia…. and wins.,..!

    Without firing a shot!

    is it possible?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You must have inspired Mumbai police commissioner, Arup Patnaik to deal with the terrorists in a non-violent, passive, silently suffering even if utterly humiliating way. But he lost the job, while you gpot the piece of land back for your friend!

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Well I hope… I have !

    As for me… I have done something which I hated to do but had to…. Got in the UK embassy to write to the top officers in the police and administration….

    Suddenly we see efficent policing and maybe just maybe… some results.

    Wish Indian police respected Indians as much.

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  • vijay !

    Pathak G my pal…!

    Sonia G has announced Congressis to go offensive so as to hide the loot and chori…

    I hope that is not influencing you…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This kind of silly post comes before , during or after you sat with that cute journo ?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    My cute journo had a link with my favorite paper… the HT

    Anyway nice repartee..

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  • Anonymous

    “A crisis not to be wasted:..

    Agree with my fellow Mallu’s conclusions

    http://www.lensonnews.com/lonspecial/1/2/15947/1/a-crisis-going-waste.html

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  • vijay !

    Vinod Sharma is on TV with Arnab. The question is early elections….

    I am sitting nice cute journo … who says… if electios were held not…. Mulayam will become the PM…

    Time for me to leave India, in case mamta. Mulayam or maya becoem the PM

    I would even welcome Dev Gowda over them

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    Anonymous Reply:

    makes all the sense, Viju!

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Thanks Gopi!

    Mulayam would push India back to 1989…

    Of course maya won’t push us back… but probably put her statue on India gate and raj Ghat and sell all of the Rashtrapati bhavan to a builder…

    And

    and

    and

    Mamta can actually take us back to ….1912.. :)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    We need electoral reforms; but it will happen only if the growth continues in the 8% plus range and a large middle class is created.

    Obviously the political class does not want elctoral reforms. There seems to be a deliberate plan to keep the problems festering and keep the growth suppressed, so people will remain poor, there will not be growth in the middle class, and the looters – Congress, SP, Maya, and even elements of BJP – can continue to loot.

    I will not put anything beyond these Rajyadrohis.

  • Anonymous

    A man goes to ATM to withdraw cash.
    .

    1. Pull up to ATM

    2. Insert card

    3. Enter PIN and account

    4. Take cash, card and receipt

    5. Drive away

    Next week he sends his wife to withdraw some cash and deposit a cheque.

    1. Pull up to ATM

    2. Back up and pull forward to get closer

    3. Shut off engine

    4. Put keys in purse

    5. Get out of car because you’re too far from machine

    6. Hunt for card in purse

    7. Insert card

    8. Hunt in purse for grocery receipt with PIN written on it.

    9. Enter PIN

    10. Study instructions.

    11. Hit “cancel”

    12. Re-enter correct PIN

    13. Check balance

    14. Look for envelope

    15. Look in purse for pen

    16. Make out deposit slip

    17. Endorse checks

    18. Make deposit

    19. Study instructions

    20. Make cash withdrawal

    21. Get in car

    22. Check makeup

    23. Look for keys

    24. Start car

    25. Check makeup

    26. Start pulling away

    27. Stop

    28. Back up to machine

    29. Get out of car

    30. Take card and receipt

    31. Get back in car

    32. Put card in wallet

    33. Put receipt in checkbook

    34. Enter deposits and withdrawals in checkbook

    35. Clear area in purse for wallet and checkbook

    36. Check makeup

    37. Put car in reverse

    38. Put car in drive

    39. Drive away from machine

    40. Drive 3 miles

    41. Release parking brake

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vow.

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  • vijay !

    @ Gopi

    Well I dont think there would be a grand plan to keep India poor. It is about retaining power and making money with power.

    I know one or two senior politicians personally. All of them want to be popular by giving things for free and give a damn of how it effects the growth and efficiency of the country. Their motto is like that of the police. Make money… and get power.

    One of the rather famous Politicians of the country took a fancy for my secretary. I had gone to meet him for submitting a project and he happened to be on the panel.

    Well… he would call up the poor girl at 2 in the night and recite romantic poetry. And then confess that ” he was not getting satisfaction and romance from his wife.. ! ”

    It took some tact to get him away from my poor scared secretary… !

    I think MMS was a decent guy… whose value the COngress never understood and crushed it under its need for getting Baby G onto the top seat…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This guy has one wife or two ?

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  • pankaj#1

    PathakG’
    A simple question. Are there illegal muslim infiltrators in Assam? Yes or no. If yes, what GOI has done about it?? if GOI and its minions will not do anything, has the Bodo people rights to defend their home and hearth. Yes or No???

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Pankaj… mere dost… Pathak G won’t answer this one….

    But I will answer this from you.. on behalf of Pathak G.

    “What did Advani do about bangaldeshi infilterators? Can human beings be teated as cattle ? Modi is beggin from infitrators in Surat. … And Rahul G is now wearing a 3 piece suit and that is more impirtant…!”

    Pathak I apologise in case you feel i am being trivial.. !

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    thanks for your reply.
    yes, present day developments are heartbreaking and then, we have people like pathak G, who are absolving muslims, who perpetrated all this, right from Bodoland to mumbai, lucknow and whereever. he can think of only votes and congress.
    The need of hour is Modi-fication of internal and external policies of India. no such gadbad jhala in Gujrat. all the states, where congress is ruling bore the brunt of muslim lawlessness, here, there will be people, who are hell bent to defend it a la, setalvad- Anand. That is not funny my friend.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Pankaj

    Actually we discussed a part of this problem few days back.

    Any border area there will be some migration and infiltration because of the economic disparities and opportunities. It’s like an osmosis process.

    It happens on the mexican border. Maharashtra and karnataka border. Orissa, West Bengal or Andhra border.

    But the point is how this problem becomes acute ?

    For this the blame must be laid on the locals. How ?

    Let’s say some people migrate to a particular place. After doing some odd jobs, they feel like settling down. When they look for a piece of land, they turn to the locals who usually have large piece of unattended land. For them, any price is good. Slowly the demand rises. The locals start becoming rich. Their new found money inspires others and they too start selling the land to others. And we start seeing a new set of colonisers. They slowly start influencing the local economic and political environment. They become assertive. Then the frustration simmers amongst the locals and they burst out.

    It’s true everywhere.

    Even in Delhi. The Gujjars resent people who have bought their land, even after being paid.

    The new settlers or migrants work harder to survive and they prosper because of their hard work. Even now in Delhi, people in Sundar nagar or Civil Lines resent people from Greater Kailash thinking them to be outsiders and with no class. The original inhabitants of Karol Bagh ( many South Indians ) are completely dominated by the refugees from Pakistan who came after the partition. Infact now these punjabi settlers think and deride the same very southIndians who have been living there since 1910 or earlier and treat them like outsiders.

    I bought a piece of land in Koshi, near Almora. Now the locals want their land back after 13-14 years !

    Assam has a slightly different problem. During the Bangladesh war India allowed refugees. They are there. Many people from West Bengal who used to work in Govt offices settled down in Assam. Actually for a long time, there have been problem between local Assames and Bengalis. By nature Bengalis are little extrovert and outspoken. They tend to dominate Assames. Even locals encouraged bangladeshi settlers to work in their field on sharing basis. It was always about easy money. They loath hard work.

    For Bodo problem, I still blame them for their own greed for selling land for easy money and now regretting and feeling frustrated.

    Do I encourage bangladeshi migrants ? No.

    But we need to understand the problem in real sense and find solutions.

    For a moment, think some people knocking at your door in the middle of night and abusing for settling down in their country and taking jobs away from them !

    May not be probable. But possible.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Not so afst, pathak.

    This is not same as a guy from kerala taking a job in Delhi or Mumbai and settling there or buying land. India is for all its citizens (except Kashmir where the self hating kashmiri sold out to the Jinnahmen).

    This is a blatant case of illegal immigration from Bangla Desh, fostered and encouraged by the govt and politicians so a permanent voting block and electotral advantage can be created.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    They were actively encouraged by the locals for easy money. Period.

    Politicians start seeing opportunities or taking interest in any focus group only when there is a sizable chunk.

    Now poiticians from Bihar have started visiting Delhi or Mumbai during elections because there is a sizable chunk of Biharis in Delhi and Mumbai. But to begin with, the politicians didn’t encourage biharis to migrate to Delhi or Mumbai.

    Hope you are able to differentiate.

    Anonymous Reply:

    No Pathak, you cannot clsoe your eyes and declare it is night. History cannot be washed away.

    In 1946, Jinnah had declared Assam was in his pocket. Later, when it ws not in his pocket, Zulfiker Ali Bhuto declared that the territorial dispute was not only with Kashmir, but also Assam. When E PAkistan became Bangla Desh, Mujibur rehman had said that bengla Desh acnnote xist without Assam.

    congress party in Assam, under Baruah, Moinal Haq Chaowdhury (Jinnah’s private secretary who decide dto saty back in india) and Fakruddin Ali Ahmed, cabinet minister 9whow ill later evcoem president0 dev KAnt BArua, ex CM of Assam and later teh Congress President (of India is Indira, indira is India afme) that Congress willa lways win Assam with the support of Alis (illegal Bangla deshsi) and Coolies (tea estate workers from West bengal).

    Anonymous Reply:

    Tell me honestly which border is undisputable ?

    Thackrey calls karnataka snake for border dispute.

    Telugus and bengalis have over crowded Odisha with border districted barely distinguishable.

    Do we have clear border and peaceful coexistence in Southern states or 7 NE states ?

    The rhetoric statements from the politicians are derived from the “effect ( alignment)” of the settlers , not the “cause” of the settlement.

    Because of the obsession with party X which supposed to be getting vote from these settlers, you are not able to plug the real loopholes and block the infiltration. One needs to understand the problem at the micro level and plug the loopholes.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ” Becuse of the obsession with party X which supposed to be getting vote from. These settlers, you are not able to plug the real loopholes and block the infiltration. One needs to understand the problem at the micro level and plug the loopholes.

    Who is suppose the plug these loopholes? And please not your usual wisecrack reply.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Unless you understand the problem at the micro level , you can not plug the loopholes.

    I just read an article in support of what I talked about early this morning :
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Northeast-burning-Illegal-immigrants-with-valid-papers/articleshow/15626211.cms

    Anonymous Reply:

    Tarun gogoi was the CM halfway (in 2001) into Gen Sinha’s governorship (1997- 2003). The use of the preposition “then” may not have been chronological, however, Prafula Mahat, CM in agreed with the contents of the report, unlike the then then Gogoi. (although Gogoi now says there are illegal Bangla Deshis -one who sows reaps))

    Like many problems plaguing this country, the unlimited, unchecked illegal migration to Assam can be attributed to Indira Gandhi and her IMDT act. She did the IMDT just to keep these illegals in Assam. There was no need for a separate act, if the intent was to send non-citizens away, the Foreigner Act was sufficient, and Assam Govt was sending these guys away under that act.

    You cannot equivocate internal state border conflicts – such as the Thackeray issue with Karnataka border etc to illegal migration from Bangla Desh, unless you are for borderless one country world.

    The root cause of migration from BD was the destitution of BD. People always migrate for opportunities, be it BDs to India or Mexicans to US. But what would have been drips and drops became a torrent because of the encouragement (IMTD, ration cards, et al) given by the government on our side of the “fence”. And that encouragement was deliberately done for votes, and not for the country. As Vinod Sharma says, the leaders of “then” should have put the country above politics.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Prafulla was the CM for 4 years ( of gen Sinha’s tenure ) with a friendly NDA Govt. at the centre and he couldn’t heed to Gen Sinha’s advice ?

    Or, Gen Sinha did a quick brainstorming towards the end of his term ?

    Looks like AGP and NDA left all the decisions for Tarun to take up later. Were they looking for a place where to put the country ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I do not understand what you are aiming at. The law of the land of Assam was IMDT. Neither Gen Sinha nor anybody, including Gogoi could have done anything about it other than follow it.

    Sinha produced a detailed report of its negative impacts eating at the core of Assam. Mahant agreed with the report (that is all he could do, agree or disagree); Gogoi disagreed with the report (and further insinuated that Sinha is indulging in areas he should not).

    You have to stop viewing issues as BJP/Congress, and call a spade a spade.

    This is now a serious national problem; it was a problem created (agree that the root cause is the relative levels of poverty between the two countries) and nurtured by Shrimathi Indira Gandhi and her congress government.
    Obviously this has to be fixed now; a mere blame assignment is not going to resolve.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Recognise a spade.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    you are right all through. Pathakji is all obfuscation and deviation.

    I think Sonia Gandhi has given deep thought to the problem for a full deade and she has come up with a brilliant solution for the problem, which all congressmen, including Pathakji have to implicitly accept.

    She has come to believe that India must be made so poor that there will be reverse migration or ex-filtration.

    I feel she has been largely successful in this endeavour, if you judge it by the way the country is going down hill.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Very telling.

    Anonymous Reply:

    It seems you are mainly interested in diverting the blame from Congress and put that on BJP.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Could you please take that responsibility !
    I know you will do a better job.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Typical Pathak reply.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You can’t stop being Mohan…I can’t stop being myself.

    Anonymous Reply:

    why should Mohan come back to a beggar country?

    Or, possibly, he may wait till the congress party and its supreme leader fully succeed in their plan to make ours the poorest country, in the group of Somalia, North Yemen etc.

    Anonymous Reply:

    He can do a good job being there. He is internet empowered.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @Gopi_Thomas:disqus

    Prafulla Mahant was the CM in 1997 the loving partner of your lovable NDA, not Tarun Gogoi.

    Tarun Gogoi took over on 17th May 2001.

    Longish writing giving a semblance of history must have the fact right.

    The deliberate blurr is SOP ? The chance re-occurance of this blurr is too often for comfort.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Pathak G;
    Thanks for your restrained reply. I was ready for a whirlwind.
    No, I beg to differ from you on your observation. What you are telling me has been told to me decades back by palestinians. it has no parallel. Muslims from bangladesh or pakistan, come in to distort/ destroy this land. They have visceral hatred for this land and people. On this point only, they got their separate state. period. Now, with active encouragement from Congress, read, Fakhruddin and co. congress encouraged bangladeshi muslims settlement for votes, this has been written by your friend Kuldip nayyar, and known to Indians since long. There was an active revolt against GOI by Assames. But GOI is a mighty state and can do, whatever it wishes, desh jaye bhhad main. Today, bodoland/ Assam is burning, tomorrow, almora, your land will burn. Please do not be smug and complacent. Your silence and by it encouragement, this land will be turned into a jahannum. do not look at petty gains. bodos are Indians and trouble makers are bangladeshi- Muslims- who should be selectively evicted from India. period. Please do not be a simplistic by saying Assamese/ bodos are lazy , blah, blah.
    As far as I am concerned, I am more than law abiding citizen of my country and contributing towards its prosperity. people are more than happy to have me here, by any parameter. Do not mix two issues.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How about a backpack tour to Assam ?

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    PathakG;
    Ab aaya majza. Ab kuchh hatthe se ukhade huye lag rahain hain.
    So whether bangladeshis come in trickle or in droves, whether supported by agents or their near ones, who infiltrated before, result is same. indigenous people reducing in numbers in their own land by hostile bangladeshi muslims. Why you are trying to explain this situation,, why do not you raise hue and cry for powers that be to correct the situation?
    OK, it is all for money, but can not authorities stop this money business? and why should politicians be exempted from handcuffs and prosecution, as and when they are found involved?? Please do not say, that they are more equal than others.
    Keralites filling Delhi is perfectly acceptable as they are Indians. Not pakistanis and Bangladeshis.
    It looks that you are no friends of Kuldeep or advani? Any reason for this animosity?? kuldeepji is famous for his love for pakis, why you are belittling him?
    Do you mean professionals are with congress? how you can say that? Traders are BJP supporters? how you can say that??
    PathakG, you could not resist bringing in RSS. Neither in my previous post and not even in your post, RSS was mentioned, then why this RSS phobia on your part?? OK, even if RSS wants a Akhand Bharat, how does it bother you?? Are you pathakG or someone else?? Who gave you this nightmarish idea that RSS will throw Muslims, Dalits, Christian and Sikhs in deep see. Muslims, christians, dalits and sikhs have joined BJP, not very far from RSS. So your fear about RSS is unfounded. RSS is not enemy of muslims either. This hauaa has been created by vested interests, who want to make muslims fearful and then grab their votes. Aap sapanon ki duniya se bahar aajaeeye.
    GOI has done enough of damage to India now BJP will have big task to restore normality and probity in public life. your another friend, rajsardesai has categorically stated that maharashtra congress government was shielding goons covertly and now openly. most of those goons happen to be muslims. so much for your friendship with sardesai??

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, you wanted whirlwind, nor a sane analysis. You construed my detached analysis as smug and complacent.

    When I wrote my first post, I was focussing on the problem ( the product ), not your state of mind ( consumer focus ).

    BJP had done enough damage to the national psych. The UPA brought in some semblance of stability. The agitation in different forms in last 2 years is to keep the whole country in a state of flux.

    Anonymous Reply:

    If Bangladeshi settlers were Hindu, they would have been given regular asylum, they would have been grateful to India and Indians for the refuge given and wouldn’t have worked against the local population and also against India’s security. They wouldn’t have helped ISI to wreak havoc with our security.

    Moreover, Pathakji, you forgot one very vital fact of history: The Muslims of undivided India demanded a separate state for themselves and got it. Logically they are duty bound to proliferate within the boundaries of their acquired geographical country.

    Just as India is bound to protect and preserve the Muslims who opted to stay on India despite a separate country being created for their own good, India is duty bound to send back any Muslims who infiltrate from Bangladesh.

    Anonymous Reply:

    See it’s not about Bangladeshis vs Indians.

    For BJP and its sympathisers, its always been Hindu vs Muslims.

    Politcal victims are given asylum, not illegal migrants.

    Muslims didn’t ask for a separate land. Some muslim leaders did. [ All Bongs are not naxals or maoist, all Punjabis are not chicken leg chewer.]

    Anonymous Reply:

    And for congressies and their cronies in the media, it is always votes, votes and votes. Create vote banks and occupy kursi in Delhi and the states.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Tell me if BJP doesn’t want or work for votes.

    Shout aloud if Advani is not dreaming for kursi in Delhi.

  • pankaj#1

    Raj Sardesai;
    A thoroughbred rascal, has his conscience, pricking him?
    For a city which has seen so much bloodletting in recent years, it is rather strange that Mumbai’s elite still gets shocked every time the city erupts into another bout of mob violence. Let’s get this clear: since the terrible 1992-93 riots — a turning point in the life of the city in which over
    900 people were killed and more than 2,000 injured — more people have died in street violence and terror attacks in Mumbai than any other metropolis in the country.Which is why the recent violence in which two people were killed and several others injured after street protests by Muslim groups should not come as any surprise. Mumbai has been sitting on a tinderbox for years now. There are, in fact, parallels between 1992 and 2012 that suggest little has changed in the past two decades. The first wave of mob fury in December 1992 was much like the violence at Azad Maidan this time. If in 2012, the Assam violence became the trigger point, in 1992 the demolition of the Babri Masjid sparked off the angry outburst. In both instances, the battlelines were pitched as Muslims versus the police, with the men in khaki being singled out as representatives of a biased State machinery, while the media this time suffered ‘collateral’ damage. Trapped in the crossfire is an increasingly impotent and, dare one say, compromised State. In the last 20 years, Maharashtra’s political class that once flirted with criminal gangs has now come to be openly identified with them. It is no secret that the state in the Congress-NCP years has been run by a politician-real estate baron-criminal mafia nexus that has left it susceptible to the slightest pressure. Even the presence of an upright chief minister like Prithviraj Chavan has done little to arrest the sharp decline in political morality…Sorry for this copy and paste. The point I am trying to make is that these even these psuedos are now finding it difficult to white wash the criminal-politician nexus now. What is the way out? A revolution, where political class of present is annihilated and a new system is put in place. India is for everyone, but not for Owaisis, mafdanis and Dauds…. list is endless. In rulings elites kabarein and samadhiyans need to be uprooted and worse…These bas… are trying their best to matiya met a civilization of thousands of years. Shame on them, collectively.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    In recent times, Mumbai is emerging as a hub of muslim radicalism..terrorism. This has to be curbed by all the might of state.If state is unwilling then, SHIV SENA. How you like it?
    Raj Thakrey is right, when he says, muslims from UP, Bihar and such states are coming to Mumbai to indulge in terror. Enough written and anecdotal evidence for it. Do not want, but, if required, make muslims, not eligible to Vote, if the present vote bank politics continue. GROSSLY PROVOCATIVE? So be it. As things are drifting, the day is not far off, when pre partion situation is recreated by these bas… for their petty profits.

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  • Anonymous

    Some thoughts to deal with Bangladeshi migrants :

    Permanent Solution :

    1) make India so poor that there is a reverse migration. Even Indians would start migrating to Bangladesh.

    Other Option :
    A ) Preventive Measures :

    1) Fence the border to check any further migration.

    2) Start from the top : The Election Commission must make it mandatory that the candidate must declare explicitly that he/she is not an illegal migrant from Bangladesh. If found later, then he would lose the seat in Assembly/Parliament and pay heavy financial cost and could be jailed.

    3) Every Citizen must declare explicitly in their voter ID application form that he is not an illegal migrant from Bangladesh and can lose to right to vote once found it to be untrue.

    4) Every working professional and Govt job holder must sign a declaration form that he is not an illegal migrant from Bangladesh and can lose his job with heavy financial cost once found untrue.

    5) Every citizen must declare in their housing loan and property registration that he is not an illegal migrant from Bangladesh and can lose right to his property with heavy financial cost.

    6) Every citizen must declare in the Bank Account opening form that he is not an illegal migrant from Bangladesh and can lose all his money in the account if found to be untrue.

    Impact :

    This will create a awareness that migrating to India and settling down there is difficult and not worth the risk.

    B) Corrective Measures :

    1) Increase the jail sentence to 70 years for any illegal Bangladeshi migrant.

    2) Offer amnesty to people who wants to move back in 12 months.

    3) Check the background of each and every criminal caught in any crime. Offer them amnesty if they move across the border on their own in a given time frame or add another 10 years extra jail term ( total 80 years ).

    4) Withhold degree / School leaving certificates of any children if the parents/relatives found to be illegal migrants from Bangladesh.

    5) Offer 20 years less jail term if any illegal migrant identify 5 illegal migrants.

    6) Identify the most recent floating crowd ( 2 years ), check their background rigourously and softly push them back with amnesty offer or severe jail term.. Then move to the next round.

    Make it a 10 year programme. Don’t rush in 10 days.

    Note : This may slowdown, but can’t prevent completely.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    your solutions to the problems in Assam and North East are good, but with a supiine government, it is a pipe dream.

    Apropos your last post about migration, let me say a couple of facts.

    The border migration between Krnataka and Maharashtra or Kerala and Karnataka are purely India’s internal problems, which the states have it within their laws and powers to accommodate and adjust.

    Bangladesh has no such treaty with India and the infiltration is, unlike osmosis, a one way traffic.

    Mexico and US have several treaties in place and the migration there too is one way-into the US. But there is a vital difference: The Mexicans do not cause a security problem for the US, they do only menial jobs and do not threaten the locals with violence.

    The Bangladeshis come with multiple agendae. They have grabbed the land of the Bodos, have tried to convert people to Islam in order to create demographic changes and most importantly, they have undermined the security of the country by joining hands with the ISI and also other terrorist groups. THEY DO NOT LOVE INDIA.

    They have also moved into other cities like Delhi and Mumbai and caused huge problems for the locals.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    If you look carefully I avoided politicians and political parties.

    This could be achieved through a pressure group like Team Anna tried fight for Lokpal. Then no political parties can resist.

    Only problem I see that Bangladesh becoming our sworn enemy and it becoming pre-1971 scene – pakistanis flanking us from both sides.

    But then let it be. We have learnt to live with external threats. One more wouldn’t matter much.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I agree. I too didn’t mention any political parties’ names.
    Bangladesh has never been a friend, whether as East Pakistan or as an independent country.

    Until very recently all the administrations were Islamic in nature, with their level of fundamentalism only varying slightly. It is because of their Bengali language and vulture, BD realised early in its life that Islamic fundamentalism will take it firmly towards ruin and is applying brakes.

    Whatever the mode of remedy,India can ill-afford to delay a solution to the problem.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Correction:Read culture in place of vulture. It is a typo.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Hope you noticed that i did not want people to declare themselves just as Indian Citizen. I want them simultaneously declare explicitly not being illegal migrant from Bangladesh.

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Pathak G;
    Aap ko chhedne ka fal mil gaya. I knew, you can come up with a solution. yes, this is the solution, I can think of. Please try to understand, I like muslims, but my likable people are disciplined, patriots and of high moral character and they can be from any religion. Infact, in my life now, religion has been relegated far behind, it is humanism, which should prevail.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    How do you identify an illegal Bangladeshi? He may have an Indian ration card, Voter ID or passport.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Ishwar;
    Every suspected person should be verified by his place of birth, parents place of birth , neighbours, his source of income/ employment etc, which should be verified independently by many people. That is one way. How you can do this for hundreds of thousand of persons? well you brought the situation on yourself, now solve it.Unique Identity program is being opposed precisely for this reason, as more confusion is condusive for anti nationals to carry out their afgenda.

  • Anonymous

    My harmless jokes are being deleted now. Not fair. Let me try again.

    A man goes to ATM to withdraw cash.
    .

    1. Pull up to ATM

    2. Insert card

    3. Enter PIN and account

    4. Take cash, card and receipt

    5. Drive away

    Next week he sends his wife to withdraw some cash and deposit a cheque.

    1. Pull up to ATM

    2. Back up and pull forward to get closer

    3. Shut off engine

    4. Put keys in purse

    5. Get out of car because you’re too far from machine

    6. Hunt for card in purse

    7. Insert card

    8. Hunt in purse for grocery receipt with PIN written on it.

    9. Enter PIN

    10. Study instructions.

    11. Hit “cancel”

    12. Re-enter correct PIN

    13. Check balance

    14. Look for envelope

    15. Look in purse for pen

    16. Make out deposit slip

    17. Endorse checks

    18. Make deposit

    19. Study instructions

    20. Make cash withdrawal

    21. Get in car

    22. Check makeup

    23. Look for keys

    24. Start car

    25. Check makeup

    26. Start pulling away

    27. Stop

    28. Back up to machine

    29. Get out of car

    30. Take card and receipt

    31. Get back in car

    32. Put card in wallet

    33. Put receipt in checkbook

    34. Enter deposits and withdrawals in checkbook

    35. Clear area in purse for wallet and checkbook

    36. Check makeup

    37. Put car in reverse

    38. Put car in drive

    39. Drive away from machine

    40. Drive 3 miles

    41. Release parking brake

    Good day friends.

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  • Anonymous

    The act of my MP, Owaisi, demonstrating that he is putting himself and the country above politics was the statement he made in the Parliament in early August – “I warn the central government, I warn the honourable members here..if proper rehabilitation (of Bangla Deshi Muslims) does not take place, you be ready for a third wave of radicalization among Muslim youth..”

    He did put the country above politics, because he warned the country of the disastrous consequences.

    There was not an outrage on this in the press.

    Owaisi is not a Mullah; he is an MP and the leader of a political party, Majlis Ittahudel Musselman (MIM).

    Not only he is an MP, he is still a ruler of Hyderabad (in modern terms, with his own militia, mafia, connections)

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, he is the true inheritor of the Razakar mantle and philosophy.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sometimes it looks that Congress is not always playing vote bank politics but they are genuinely scared of people like Owaisi. Our country is not only being rules by thieves but by cowards also.

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  • emotionalatyachaar

    Suno suno suno…nai khabar aaj ka,
    kejriwal karega gherao PM aur Gadkari ka;
    panch sau jaenge PM ke ghar,
    karenge narebaji aur likhenge ‘chor hai sonia ki yeh bhai’,
    udhar pachaas jayenge gadkari ke ghar,
    chhun ke uske gulabi gaal, bolenge “ohhh my my…”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Bangladeshion ne kiya Assam mein athyachaar
    aur congress ne failaya desh mein bhrashtachar
    Pathak ji chuck te hain dahi chawal ke saath aam achaar
    aur likh te hain naam le kar emotional athyachaar.

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    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Pathak mein hai kahan woh gun, jo hum mein hai,
    leekhte hai hum, aur sabaashi koi aur le jai !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are so right my friend !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Split personality.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    hum na hai ek udar prithak grib,
    kaise socha aapne hum hai achamvita.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde
    Pathak bowls, ball goes wide.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    kabhi kabhi aap bhi bade kamaal karte hain,
    bina aag ki dhuan neekal te hain.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kabhi kabhi hum bhi Hindi me likha karte the
    Hamare chacha Hindi ke pandit hua karte the
    lekin aaj hum baithe hain filmi gaane gaate
    aur tukke maara karte hain jaate jaate.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Likhte rahe kabhi kabhi hindi mein,
    kya mazza hai angrezi mein?

    hindi mein leekh kar desh ki shaan badhate rahen,
    kabhi kbhi deshpremi geet hum me bhi sunaate rahe.

  • Anonymous

    Coalgate: If coal is not mined, where is the loss? asks Chidambaram

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Coalgate-If-coal-is-not-mined-where-is-the-loss-asks-Chidambaram/articleshow/15630061.cms

    Is Chidambaram trying to play the role of Kapil Zero loss Sibal?

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    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Koi bataye toh sahi, usme kharabi kya hai,
    naarebaji ke siwa kisiko kuchh aur bhi ataa hai ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Naarebaazi hoti nahin agar CAG uthata nahin koi sawal
    Chori nahin karti Congress to hota nahin koi bawal.

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    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Khub jamega jodi hamare aap ke saath,
    jab mil baith kar karenge jugalbandi Shenoy ke saath;

    Anonymous Reply:

    No wonder, PathakG has kept himself away from his brilliant logic.

    The readers of ToI have ripped it apart. Chidambaram has scored a self-goal for his party in injury time.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I don’t comment on what is obvious to everybody.. I don’t tell the world what everybody has read this morning. Moreover, these are dead issues for me. Be it Vk Singh , Team Anna or Coalgate today. Too obvious. What excites me is that something I see but others don’t see easily.

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  • emotionalatyachaar

    Aaj aisa hai sannata, lagta hai koi na suna hai swamy ka naam,
    na koi khabar padha hai, na dekha koi tv program;

    badi muskil hai jeena aise blackout mein,
    andhera hi andhera, koi toh bole kuchh swamy ke baare mein.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    He said he could not finish his submission in the court properly and Kalam didn’t hear him properly.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This is not the first time the supreme court has given a patently wrong and biased decision.

    It is illogical, devoid of common sense that it sends Raja to jail and leaves Chidambaram untouched.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I told you before because of the press coverage during CWG, even SC got carried away like ordinary people.

    vijay ! Reply:

    I always said that Mani Aiyar dug the Congress grave from CWg onwards. Do you beleive me now?

    Anonymous Reply:

    How can Vinodji agree with you about his bosom friend, the secular Ayatollah, Many Sankat Aiyar?

    Anonymous Reply:

    He was inconsequential. It’s Vinod Rai’s press conference that did all the damage. He wasn’t even around here in India.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Brother

    I know this from close. He was the discarded wife whose jealousy showed in tears and heaving of his chest.

    he went to Barkha dutt and started the game there. 70, 000 crores looted he whispered….

    And then he went to Times NOw

    And Rajedeep

    And then to entire mandi…

    Well the Congress never had the guts to shut him up.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Swamy has rightly compared this with cricket. He is a bowler and he has to get lucky just once. As a batsman, Chidambaram has to go on defending!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Let him declare openly out of 50 balls, 49 are actually wrong ones he bowls deliberately.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Do baar abhi abhi kul gayi dhoti Swamy ka,
    kabhi dekhe idhar, kabhi udhar nehi hai jawab kisi kaam ka.

    Anonymous Reply:

    the umpires are there to check if he bowled a no-ball.

    He’ll carry on doing what he has been. We’ll wait for another day and another case.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    politics ka hai yeh rakhi sawant,
    karta rahega nautanki hoke mast.

    na thakega iske jawan jhoot bol ke,
    tv ka hai yeh rajkumar saare jahan ke.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But the one he bowled to Sonia Gandhi on her Oxford qualification had her run out and the SC chief justice begging for mercy.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Yeh hain Chidambaram ki jaan
    Uski dallali ki pehchaan
    Khali kiya sarkari khajana
    bhar liya ghar ka bhandara
    kahani sunata raha rightwing terror ki
    jhooti nikali bhoot pret ki kahani jaisi

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    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Swamy na tha kabhi Chidu bhai ki jaan,
    ho gaye aap gumrah, abhi neend se uthe kya bhai rehman!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    jab Pathakji likhte hain tab gayab hote hain Athachaar,
    jab yah so jaata hai to Pathakji aate hain lekar apna vichaar.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Pathak mein na hai humaare jaise khubiyaan,
    jab hum hote saare rakhte hain hum se dooriyaan.

    Anonymous Reply:

    There is hardly anything exciting to discuss.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Swamy jab pad gaya peeche unke
    bhag na payega chidu unse
    chor ki dadhi mein tinka
    chidu ka mundu hoye dheela

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Swamy ka naam aaj log sune,
    hum to uska bal bal pehchane;
    aya tha bol ke pradhaanmantri zaroor banega,
    koi na pooche isliye nautanki kart hai jhoot moot ka;

  • Anonymous

    The 10 day Onam festival of Malayalis started two days ago.

    An integral part of Onam is the flower decorations in the courtyard or verandah of one’s house; starting with small circles on day 1 and ending with elaborate arrangements on the final day, Thiru Onam.

    There used to be competition among us friends in my childhood as to who will collect the maximum amount/variety of flowers. There was a lot of open land, maidans, where wild local plants with flowers of different colours and varieties grew, so we can build rings of flowers with different colours.

    The land and flower availability was limited when my children grew up because of the construction boom, ; but there still was flowers available, with an occasional back up by buying flowers from the market.

    But during the last twenty years, for most part people here have been buying flowers from the commercial market, because there is no open land to pluck flowers.

    This year, drought has impacted that source too. The supply from Karnataka and Tamil Nadu is limited; also quite expensive as a result .

    My grandchildren will never believe that we used to go to open lands and forests to pluck flowers for Onam; that there used to be a friendly competition as to who plucked the most….

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, Gopiji there are many things our children and grand children will never get an opportunity to see what we had seen. Sad, but that is the fact we have to live with mainly because of unsustinable population growth .

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    vijay ! Reply:

    very true!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Touching.

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  • Anonymous

    Indian ingenuity/entrepreneurship in action..

    The best barbecue in Virginia is by one Hindu vegetarian Varun Patri! I am going to eat there when I drive through Virginia countryside next!

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/in-virginia-countryside-a-hindu-takes-on-role-of-barbecue-guru/2012/08/23/0facad78-d5b0-11e1-b2d5-2419d227d8b0_story.html

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Thx for the llnk Binoy

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good for the gentleman. The ribs do look tempting!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good for the gentleman. The ribs do look tempting!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sounds delicious. Maybe will visit the place when I m there in US.

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  • vijay !

    VInodji ne naya liya hai bhesh
    Kavita aur dialogues se de rahe hai sandesh…

    Kyon Emotional ho gaye ho Vinodji?
    Congrress choddo aur atyachar bhi gayab hoga abhi abhi…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    All bitten by PremChand bug , huh !

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  • Anonymous

    It will be interesting how congress handles the CBI inquiry against the AP ministers involved with Jagan.

    Dharma is not the only one; many will have to go.
    And the PCC President Bosta is no saint either. Several cases are pending against him and his son, although, so far, none related to Jagan.

    http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/andhra-pradesh-cm-meets-sonia-to-discuss-jagan-case-fallout/1049559.html

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  • Anonymous

    It will be interesting how congress handles the CBI inquiry against the AP ministers involved with Jagan.

    Dharma is not the only one; many will have to go.
    And the PCC President Bosta is no saint either. Several cases are pending against him and his son, although, so far, none related to Jagan.

    http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/andhra-pradesh-cm-meets-sonia-to-discuss-jagan-case-fallout/1049559.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What else has Congress got to do? They know how to handle these issues – an example being Mayawati and Mulayam both supporting its govt. at centre.

    No matter how hard I try, I am unable too figure out the scale of corruption in Andhra Pradesh. I know the people in UP are fools to vote in the crooks of the world, but seriously, even the people in AP are unable to see the rampant loot of their state politicians.

    To add to the woes, we now have a certain Hyderabadi Mr Owaisi who is out to some serious damage to the country’s politics.

    Swapan Dasgupta has a nice article:

    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/columnists/swapan-dasgupta/rise-modern-muslim-leadership

    It says: Although he is second to G.M. Banatwala, the Mumbai lawyer who represented the Mallapuram district of Kerala for the Muslim League for many terms, as a parliamentarian, Mr Owaisi has made a mark in the Lok Sabha. His short intervention in the Lok Sabha during the adjournment motion on the Assam troubles may have earned him some notoriety — he warned of a possible “third wave” of Muslim militancy — but, in the process, he came across as the most decisive voice of the Muslims in Assam. Mr Owaisi was the only Muslim MP who spelt out the demand for the immediate abolition of the Bodo Territorial Council, a body viewed by the immigrants as the impediment to its “rights” in Kokrajhar and elsewhere

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar-

    The massive corruption started with YSR. He did it differently, in the sense, every element in the chain, from the lowest clerk to the department secretary in the bureaucracy and the panchayat member to Dist and state Congress committee honchos on the political chain, got a piece of action. Perfect alignment! The rumour among techies here was that he had an SAP system with all elements mapped out!

    The tolerance issue operates on a different dimension, one entirely driven by the feudal and tribal nature of AP. Jagan won the elections because Reddys thought their man is cornered by the centre – ie, how did he become corrupt suddenly after he broke away from Congress. Reddys are now split between Jagan and Congress; Kammas mostly for TDP. Reddys consider Jagan as a Reddy although he is a Christian.

    With Jagan split away, Congress needs Owaisi for its survival. Owaisi family runs their personal goonda raj in Hyderabad. The younger brother (a MLA) was almost shot dead in a “mafia” shoot out with another Muslim group.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Crazy!

    This is rivalling D and Co

    Pathak G koi spin toh deejiye…

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mahadev;
    is raktabeej, the answer in AP?

  • vijay !

    Mahadevan your posting showed that YSR was as good as D company. A fully organised racket feeding the high command so that the lower level dahlas and dalals made crores and crores from selling of iNDIA.
    This is Congress corruption of the scale of Marcos and Idi Amin.

    Vinod Sharmaji and Pathak g find this nice and pure and Shudh COngress music. After all there is a dynasty too involved.

    Cmon my blind firends… Vinod Sharma and PathakG
    Congress ne YSR diya..
    Corruption aur Dynasty ka band baj Gya…

    Toh aap do jasoos
    Kab karoge mahsoos

    Ki Congress badi kharab hai..

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  • shekhar gandotra

    Hello Brothers.

    It seems to me that Congress is now in kafan. It is good because in democracy we must have satta parivartan

    There is some talent in Congress but because of fixation with Nehru name all talent is cut of from head.

    My uncle Ravi is not coming here from long time. Seems he has gone back to bed of Papa Hafis Saeed. Maybe he was involved in Banglore problem on North east people. He had told us that he visit Bangalore some time back.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    shekhar

    If Ravi is not actively involved in terrorism… then I would pray that he changes and becomes an Indian lover. We will forgive him once he sings Jan gan man…. iinstead of Pakistan ka matlab kya.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But, for heaven’s sake don’t ask him to sing Vande Mataram!
    It is haraam for him.

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  • Anonymous

    Shoot out near Empire state building in New York. Two killed and many injured.

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    shekhar gandotra Reply:

    Americans should play with Kancha and lattu in childhood.

    All gun toys for children make them shooter in adult life.

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  • Anonymous

    An excellent article on the Pakistan dilemma, India’s emerging challenges vis-a-vis religion/nation perspective.

    Shoeb, he refers to the emerging Salafi issue/impact here in India- you mentioned about that threat in your response in this blog to the Azad Maidan incident.

    http://newindianexpress.com/opinion/article594721.ece

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In Pakistan they started with minorities – Hindus, Christians and Sikhs -
    then Ahemdiyas and now Shias. When all these are finished they will
    start killing each others as hate is in their genes. Pakistan is a doomed country.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Beutiful link Gopi.
    I hope, PathakG will read it.

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  • Anonymous

    Happy Onam to Gopi and everyone. All here call me paaji but it is 10 pm here in Uk and I am watching the original paaji on Indian Idol, DHARMENDRA M And Hema looks grand

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Balwinderji;
    Is it Praji or Paaji?
    I am a bit confused here. Paaji is not very enticing.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Pankaj

    We Punjabis are lazy… like Americans.

    So the r is swallowed and Dharmendra Prahaji becomes “oye mera Dharmendra pahaji”…. By the way Suar Paazi is a favourite abusive term of older Punjabi women… so paaji is deifferent from Paazi..

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  • Anonymous

    One night, a drunk comes stumbling into a bar and says to the bartender: “Drinks for all on me including you, bartender.” So the bartender follows the mans orders and says: “That will be Rs. 2000 please.” The drunk says he has no money so the bartender slaps him around and throws him out.

    The next night the same drunk comes in again and orders a drink for everyone in the bar including the bartender. Again the bartender follows instructions and again the drunk says he has no money. So the bartender slaps him around and throws him out.

    On the third night he comes in, the drunk orders drinks for all except the bartender. “What, no drink for me?” replies the bartender. “Oh, no. You get violent when you drink.”

    Good morning friends.

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  • Anonymous

    Narendra Modi protests censorship by UPA

    http://www.niticentral.com/2012/08/narendra-modi-protests-censorship-by-upa.html

    The government’s order to block Twitter handles and nearly 300 Web pages
    which it says threaten communal harmony and a fragile peace, led to outrage on
    Twitter. Hashtags like Emergency2012 and GOIBlocks protested against the
    government’s decision. Many turned their pictures black in protests and now
    Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi too has joined the protest.
    He tweeted today that he joins the crackdown on freedom of speech, and has
    turned his digital picture black.
    “As a common man, I join the protest against crackdown on freedom of speech!
    Changed my DP. ‘Sabko Samnati De Bhagwan’ (May God give wisdom to all),” he
    posted on #GOIBlocks. As a mark of their protest many netizens have joined
    ‘#GOIBlocks’ which is trending (bulletin board where everybody can express their
    opinion on the subject) on Twitter.
    Instead of Mr Modi’s image, the picture display section on his Twitter
    account today showed a blank space, along with the message denouncing the
    Centre’s move to “muzzle” social media.
    There are around 40 million Facebook and 16 million Twitter users in
    India.
    What prompted the Centre to step in is the ‘provocative’ mobile phone text
    messages being in circulation and doctored website images about Assam and
    Myanmar violence going viral, resulting in exodus of northeast people from some
    states fearing attacks on them by Muslims.

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  • Anonymous

    PM asks mines minister not to go ahead with mines allocations.

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  • pankaj#1

    Sorry for this copy and paste,
    Could not resist, as this is being now discussed on this blog.
    The Government’s paranormal activities in the last few weeks has worsened with it coming down heavily on some popular Twitter accounts and instructing suspension orders on them. ‘Parody’ has been redefined as ‘misrepresentation’, ‘fearless’ opinions have been redefined as ‘communal’, ‘Rights’ have been replaced with ‘privilege’ for which we ought to remain in servitude of, basically many words in Webster have been redefined to suit the UPA’s convenience. Many proud supporters with a halo around their heads carry the Government’s latest version of a nonsensical encyclopedia and dish out gibberish. ‘Veiled’ threats are now common on social media; they all take refuge under the latest lexicon created by the UPA. In all this reigning confusion, it still remains a mystery as to why the Honorable Minister of state for communications and information technology, Milind Deora’s account has been suspended? Milind, the able leader charging from the front to gag the mouths of some intelligent, reasonable and sane thinkers in social media. Many swarming flies, acting as Deora’s mouthpiece have buzzed around the virtual world and declared that Deora’s account is being verified and hence suspended. Hilarious and rather ironic state of affairs to say the least, and we must be first class nincompoops to believe the excuses. The so called next generation Congress commanders like Sachin Pilot and Milind Deora have shot themselves in the foot with their antagonism towards liberty of expression, a platform that India’s current and future generation will not compromise on. By failing to sense the pulse of what India’s next wants, more carcinogenic errors are continually being made by the UPA.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Congress is gradually bringing in emergency.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Presently (and privately) it is callede cybergency.

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  • Anonymous

    Gopiji-

    The concept of a national minority Council in itself is an oxymoron.

    Leaving that aside, it simply is unpardonable that they will visit to check on the welfare of one of the parties in the conflict while the riots are going on, while the settlement/resettlement is going on.

    It is also stupid, or may be political, to visit with a preconceived notion of “majority vs minority” riot. Who is the majority, is it Bodos? Who is the minority, is it Muslims?

    Our government, through agencies such as NMC, is creating more problems than solving them.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shoeb,

    you are absolutely right here about the NCM.

    The latest from this august body in the month of August is an order to the government to open all heritage mosques under the protection of the ASI as national monuments, must be opened to the minority community for offering Friday prayers!

    I think our friend, Pathak ji will certainly have something to say as explanation (after ‘consulting’ Digvinash Sing, ofcourse).

    He may say that the country is committing ghor athyachaar on the Muslims by depriving them of the r right to pray, which is guaranteed in our constitution.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You parrot for days together even half a phrase that BJP trolls shout on the internet. Pathak doesn’t need to consult anybody before giving his opinion.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Please, then Sir, give your valued opinion, thol mol ke.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ask about things other than religion. We have thousands of issues to discuss. You will have plenty of opportunities.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But, do you agree that National Commission is not only about religion of only one minority?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I never bothered about their mandate. So no clue.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Did you ever write to your community leaders about this issue with the haz subsidy ?

    Or, you find it safe and easy to express your opinion here on this blog?

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  • Anonymous

    Gopiji,
    NCM through their biased approach may create more rift between majority and minority. I don’t see main opposition party having any guts to
    taking up this matter seriously and sold out media cannot be expected to
    raise this very grave issue.

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  • vijay !

    Gopi

    Everyone is a victim in this country. Everyone has atyachar on him…

    Vinodji even says there is emotional atyachar on him. Lucky guy! My girl is doing physical atyachar on me… by making me wait in office… when I wanted to play pool…

    Now everyone is a minority. WOmen. Muslims. Hindus in kashmir (not talked about as they dont create a vote bank) . Etc etc.

    We should be a country of minoirtes now…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are sounding like a long lost cousin of Owaisi.

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  • Anonymous

    Sadly even after such news coming out, government is not taking
    any action against these outfits.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan-

    Just one word..”vote”!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    and get a (Rs1000) note.

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  • Anonymous

    Justice Katju once said that a litigant Muslim school was Talibanising education by insisting on students’ right to grow beards as per the scriptures.

    Later he apologised to the community.

    Now he himnself is talibanising the media!

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  • Anonymous

    It is like a profusely sweating Renuka Chaudhury wiping her face with her hand all the time she is on the TV!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Renuka wipes off all that extra sweat…

    Mr Narendra Modi,the honourable Chief Minister of Gujrat, keeps checking about the extra he got implanted.

    BTW who paid for this hair implant and weaving ? This looks like an international job. Did you know when Mr Narendra Modi,the honourable Chief Minister of Gujrat, flew out to get his hair implant and weaving done ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    these are the days of implanting, transplanting, replanting. And you are planting stories about the cost of implanting.

    When women get implants, and nobody so much as raises an eye brow, why are you so agitated about Modi getting an attractive hair implant? What matters is whether it suits him. For example, Harsha Bhogle has lost all his wisdom after the implant, whereas Salman Khan is scoring hit after hit after his own implant.

    So, please, your unbiased opinion please.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Honestly I havem’t looked at his recent picture carefully. 3 months back he looked like an opera guy with his long hair.

  • Anonymous

    Is this incessant call for Dr MMS resignation doing any good for BJP from a future electoral victory perspective? or is it doing harm (I think it is)?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Time Pass.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Even Arun Shourie is saying that stalling parliament is not a good idea.
    Discuss the issue, not letting parliament function is not a solution.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, Gopi,

    read Shekhar Gupta’s article quoted above.

    You will see the rationale behind the move to block parliament.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Rationale ??? ha ha…

  • Anonymous

    New Convert ! Don’t dance in Jitendra’s white shoes.
    Post the link and let people judge themselves.

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  • Anonymous

    COAL VS COALITION
    +++++++++++++++++

    Congress party’s three-point formula: pradhan mantri imaandar, allies beimaan, aur gathbandhan ki majboori.

    “It is for the first time since 2004 that they have a scam that reaches the very top of the Congress party and the prime minister. Until now, the Congress had been able to deflect all scams and failures to an inconvenient ally. The 2G scam was blamed on the DMK, and an angry public was calmed by sending A. Raja and Kanimozhi to jail and Dayanidhi Maran into oblivion. Price rise was blamed on another ally, Sharad Pawar. The questions over the Air India aircraft purchases were similarly dumped on Praful Patel even though the decision was taken by an EGoM led by a Congress minister (P. Chidambaram). Lack of economic reform and policy paralysis were “because of” Mamata Banerjee, the usual suspect. In short, as a top BJP leader explained to me, the Congress was “getting away comfortably” with a three-point formula: pradhan mantri imaandar, allies beimaan, aur gathbandhan ki majboori (the PM is honest, the allies are crooks and there are compulsions in coalition politics).”

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/national-interest-coal-vs-coalition/992928/0

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And blaming the coalgate on NDA.

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  • Ravi

    Origins of Mother Languages

    The New York Times recently ran an article showcasing a new theory on the evolution of Indo-European languages. The article called “Family Tree of Languages Has Roots in Anatolia, Biologists Say is based on widely dis-credited scientific methodology, well actually statistical analysis of some words or their daughters which are found in many languages.

    However, I will not spoil your own enjoyment of this thoroughly biased and
    imperialist article written by a paid for congressi journalist who packs in his
    pants a tiny श्वेत लिंगम/

    With a view to providing a rich context to the new theory, the article presents the views of three eminent, well in acuality two eminent and one cunning linguist. And they are:

    1. Dr Anthony who Promotes the widely discredited theory of Aryan Migration and believes that the first speakers of the mother tongue, known as proto-Indo-European, were chariot-driving pastoralists who burst out of their homeland on the steppes above the Black Sea about 4,000 years ago and conquered Europe and Asia. This theory has now been comprehensive debunked by Historians from the BHU, who have studied fossilised cow droppings from 7000 years ago.

    2. Quentin Atkinson – An imperialist India hating Kiwi from the antipodean banana republic called New Zealand. It specialises in producing cheap woolly bananas. His view on the origin of language is a rival theory that
    suggests, to the contrary, the first Indo-European speakers were peaceable
    farmers in Anatolia, now Turkey, about 9,000 years ago, who disseminated their language by the hoe, not the sword. Quentin Atkinson’s middle name is Osama.

    3. स्वामी निआन्ड्र्थाल पुरोहित – He is a well respected all knowing holi man who was present at the time when mother language – veracularly known as माँ भविष्य वाणी decended from heaven to earth. In order to break her fall, she landed herself on the rastafarian hair styled महान स्वामी शब्दकोष जी महाराज who was sitting precariously perached on the Mt Everest. महान स्वामी जी at the time of the descend was singing – in राग झिंझोटी – लट उलझी सुलझा जा बालम. The net result of this unlikely combination of events is that माँ भविष्य वाणी spread throughout the world by trickling down many of the ल्ट्स of महान स्वामी शब्दकोष जी महाराज. That is why we in India have many many mother tongues, each sweeter than the other. Each Indian seem to go
    jabberwoky in राग झिंझोटी.

    As can be clearly seen if only these linguists had made the effort to come to India and spoken to the current descendants of the oldest cunning linguist in the world, they would have saved their careers and received many academic accolades if propounding the theory that India is the birth place of ALL the mother languages and she descended from heaven.

    However for those who would like to waste their precious time on the new thory can read it here…. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/24/science/indo-european-languages-originated-in-anatolia-analysis-suggests.html?pagewanted=all

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    you could make alive even a dead serpent?? Vow.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Shenoy Sahab;
    Best compliment is when adversary start copying you. Shvet lingam is no longer your copy right.
    Congrats.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    shevta lingam upbhokta is a gem which describes many a people…

    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Vijay;
    This article has already been read by me but the twist provided is new.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Nice one. Pretty much in league with the following Onion piece.
    http://www.theonion.com/articles/fed-chief-makes-diplomatic-visit-to-econopolis,29299/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A nice satire. Writer should have added a derivative curry and that would have made a perfect a dozen course feast.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Fake Ravi toh fake hie reh gaya. Khud fake aur isski theories too fake.

    And look who he has got as the clapper boy, our very own Mahesh!

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Karan Thapar, Oh so upright and polished, UK returned on top of that, lamenting power of SMS … and shirking the issue of muslim bigots and their nexus with congress. Let all people of his ilk come down to earth.
    in a related blog at TOI, some one, sounding secularist, but pure muslim communal, saying civil war in India, so be it. what our pathakG and karans and Sardesai have to respond here. These fundoos understand only harsh language and treatment nothing less, A la, America and Europe, what you say pathakG. sorry know you, like you in a mixed way, but you are shy to call spade a spade. these things will not work, sorry , you are still, frog in the well.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Prove that we are bangladeshis and we will go back. A head line in HT. PathakG, should we start the exercise? I knew that this will come. Now, either expel them or declare bangladesh as province of India, what you say PathakG. Analyse, with deep implications, no rhetorics. We will take care of present day bangladeshis as Indians if they acceppt indian ethos and become secularists. For communalist, we will chun chun ke marenge!!!
    Your comments please pathak G.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    …………….if they acceppt indian ethos and become secularists.

    =
    I thought “secularist” had become a derogatory word !

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    PathakG.
    I am wedded to secularism in its pure and untinted form. Believe me, if you will.

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  • Anonymous

    An Open Letter to our Muslim Brothers…by Arindam Chowdhury

    Let us see what Owaisi will utter now .

    http://newindianexpress.com/opinion/article595886.ece

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    Anonymous Reply:

    There is going to be no effect on Owaisi by this open later. He uses Muslim ‘victimhood’ card just to get votes for his party and Congress supports him to further his agenda.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Owaisi is a Razakar fundamentalist and nothing shakes a fundamentalist, not even long jail terms or death.

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  • Dr Mishra

    RAVI
    ———
    I am deep sea diving in Malta- conc on wrecks this week. In a very mellow mood on the Sliema waterfront drinking some Maltese wine.
    Just read your nonsensical post below and can I say very politely- you are past your sell by date. You are getting boring, and your attempts at provoking and atempts at humour are weak.
    Or are you smarting under the brilliant if cruel barbs that Mohan, Praaji and Viju and Shenoy directed at you last week?

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  • pankaj#1

    Psuedos;
    It your heart out. Osamu Suzuki visited Gujrat to encourage more investment there? What is happening, Gujrat is progressing, not pampering any one it is pure progress for every one.
    Ha.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Osama visits Pakistan, sets up terror facilities and makes it Pakshitstan.

    Osamu visits Gujarat, sets up facilities and uplifts India.

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  • Anonymous

    Wise men don’t marry. If they marry the become otherwise.

    Good morning friends.

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  • Anonymous

    All BIGWIGS of IAC at the PM’s house….the D team ( just 2 of them ) is at Gadkari’s house?

    —–

    Copying and Pasting a fellow blogger’s comment :
    ======
    emotionalatyachaar • 2 days ago

    Suno suno suno…nai khabar aaj ka,
    kejriwal karega gherao PM aur Gadkari ka;
    paanch sau jaenge PM ke ghar,
    karenge narebaji aur likhenge ‘chor hai sonia ki yeh bhai’,
    udhar paanch jayenge gadkari ke ghar,
    chhun ke uske gulabi gaal, bolenge “ohhh my my…”

    ========

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Pathak G

    Vinodji aka Emotional atyachar knows that C and co (congress) is being swept away to double digits , first time since 1947.

    Let us enjoy the last few months of this collapsing , corrupt regime.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You are having your early morning dream at 11 O’ Clock !!!!!!

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    vijay ! Reply:

    well… no dreams! Just facts.

    Now we have to see that Mamta, Mulayam or Maya dont become the PM. Congress is willing to support a Maya government at centre I have been told as she does not cut into their votebank

    Congress would be willing to even support a jaya government as they have been allies on and off.

    What is your calcuation about Baby G and Digivash G’s strategy after they reduce COngress to 79 seats?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Maya or Mamta would be nice. India will have a breakthrough. Everybody took the freedom ( of speech ) for granted.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Who knows – It may be a Jaya/congress alliance!

    Anonymous Reply:

    79 has a nice ring about it. Inshallah!
    But they have to slog for it.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yess, you must remember Allah for your nirvaan.

    Advani also remembers jihad when he falls short of expression.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I will be surprised if they cross 50 even .

    Anonymous Reply:


    Hurry up ! Anybody else !!!

    Lifetime opportunity to win a Mega-lottery !!!!!!!!!

    Throw your lucky dice !

    Do ka bees !!!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    rancour is not an emotion suited for an early morning or even for noon. Try to accept the inevitable.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Want to bet ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Do ka bees !!!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    I used to bet a lot in cricket and elections – stopped now since many years -. The actual odd for congress winning 50 seats should be around dus ka ek.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Let it be.

    By your standard, what were the odds in 2004 and 2009 ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    in 2004 bookies went completely wrong. NDA was favourite to win around 250-270 seats. No idea about 2009 as by that time I had
    stopped betting and had not bothered to check.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You mean to say your skill is quite rusted now ?
    Kasam se Shenoy wouldn’t like it. You have let him down.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I told you what actually was bookies’ prediction in 2004
    and accordingly they gave the odds. They expected NDA to form the government but went wrong in their prediction.
    I am not a bookie, I used to be a punter only. Will try to
    find out if bookies have already starting giving the odds
    on next elections.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You do all that at your own risk.

    I don’t know you. Never spoken to you. Never read your jokes.

    Mohan kaun ? I only know Lord Krishna.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Kya baat bhai mere. Itni jaldi ghabra gaye ? :) :)

    By the way if you want to bet on India/NZ match
    you will get 70 paise for every one rupee you bet on
    India win and 1.35 rupees if you bet a rupee on draw.

    These are the latest odds at lunch time on fourth day of the match

    Anonymous Reply:

    Never did betting. Never bought a lottery ticket.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Nice to hear that. I wish I could have controlled myself. Those were different times, anyway learnt a lesson after losing
    lot of money.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I like it, kasam se.

    This a bet Pathakji will never win.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    generally, the media persons are the first ones who see the writing on the wall; and for whom the bell tolls.

    And it is the ruling politicians who opt to live in denial. It is sad to see the media joining the denialists in their denial.

    But unlike the political denialists, the media can always live it down as if the shame is nothing.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar, Pathakji,

    the media is enjoying this emotional athyachar on Kejriwal &Co. For now.

    But, as you said, the ground under their feet is slipping fast.
    Till now the congress was enjoying the safety of distance from the scams as it was all allies taking the hit.

    Now paani sar se ooper beh raha hai. The Prime minister, the epitome of probity and honesty is involved in the biggest scam under his own direction. Buss, kuch hi din aur.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Buss…This Semptember !!!

    [ Heard that in 2004 ]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Once in power, we’ll bring down the prices in 100 days!!

  • Anonymous

    India under 19 wins Cricket World cup by beating Australia in finals.
    Congrats .

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  • Anonymous

    Pathakji,

    this one is for you:

    “As for those journalists who have gone out of their way to support Internet censorship, for reasons I cannot fathom, my advice to them is that they give up journalism for more profitable careers in government. At least that way they will not be betraying their dharma and even if the I&B Ministry bites the dust, there will always be propaganda work available. ….” TAVLEEN SINGH IN INDIAN EXPRESS

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/internet-zindabad/993155/0

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Complete free tourism is bad. What to talk of internet commenting ! That’s why everywhere we have some sort of controlled tourism.

    Though you love to display your assets in your bedroom, you don’t flash them to your neighbours. There are certain social norms. If all film makers followed self-censorship, there would not be any need of a Film Censor board.

    When you expect a visitor in your house, I am sure you expect a certain level of decency.

    I am sure your children restrain while talking to you, teachers even to their own friends.

    Had Engrich restrained himself with slight moderation, I am sure you and Vijay wouldn’t have called for a jihad by rounding up all your friends who got impressed with your poetry !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    I love this reply. Kasam se.

    Moderation is the very essence of societal inter-relations.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I wish we just believed a little in this magic word moderation. Life would have been so much easier ! The World would have been so much more livable.

    Anonymous Reply:

    But moderation cannot be one sided as happened with Gandhi and the Muslim extremists led by Jinnah.

    Even Jnnah’s followers left behind in India by him like the present day Razakars, don’t have this word in their lexicon.

    Anonymous Reply:

    jinna bad.spoil india.ramdev small child 1947. not child ramdev lathi fix jinnah. jai hind.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mangalam,

    you head no have.
    shithead, yes, fake Ravi likes

    Anonymous Reply:

    low englis.make fun.put mustad oil in you.push ramdev lathi more in you. fix all. jai hind.

  • Anonymous

    anna phanna kejrival phejrival all fail. whole day wait no crowd. invite ramdev crowd all india come.dont forget ramdev mustad oild lathi. govt is bad. asking swami balkrishna how he make 60 crores in 3 years. nobdy ask bad question to swami balkrishna. people say balkrishna top. ramdev under balkrishna. no. ramdev top. balkrishna under ramdev. 2014 ramdev wins election.all vote only ramdev. jai hind.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    no. balkrishna top.ramdev bottom.ashram say.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    So is manglam ur new bhesh…

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Mangalam and Ravi
    ki hai jodi ajeeb

    Sajana LeT
    Aur Sajan Catamitty

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    Anonymous Reply:

    poosie to ****. fly long patang in empty sky.say you simple englis.india hindi contry. no big englis.ramdev mustad oild lathi fix all. jai hind.

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  • Anonymous

    Was the “panic’ a planned effort to move low skilled/grade 4 Assamese employees out and replace them with Bangla Deshi illegals in these cities?

    http://barbarindians.tumblr.com/post/29798656155/bangalore-exodus-investigation-part-4-why

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I haven’t read the article but I doubt if that’s the case.

    There are hardly any grade 4 or low skilled Assamese in our metroes.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    reality is different.

    There are several thousand Assamese in Bangalore city alone working in one industry itself: as security guards.

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  • vijay !

    —————————————————————————————————
    ~~ CONGRESS DESPERATE! only supporter left– Pathak G & Manglam !! ~~~
    —————————————————————————————————

    Oye Pathak G

    Congress is really… reallY ! REALLY sinking !

    Imagine as a Congress, Baby and Digviansh supporter…. You now have only Mangalam as company!!

    Arre bhaiya Pathak G… you are an intelligent guy. So join the intelligent group of Shenoy, Gopi, Mohan et al …

    After all a man is known by the level of company he keeps !

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  • pankaj#1

    PathakG. I am wedded to secularism in its pure and untinted form. Believe me, if you will. This is from conviction not penitentiary.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Indian politics today seems driven less by politicians and more by the Supreme Court and Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG). What does this imply for Indian democracy?..
    The answer is that we are seeing a revolt by India’s institutions against a corrupt, callous state. An implicit political conspiracy ensures that all parties can, with impunity, engage in kickbacks and nepotism on a grand scale. In such a milieu, outcomes are decided not by justice but by money, muscle and influence.
    India’s institutions have responded by turning activist, and crossing old jurisdictional borders. Earlier, the Election Commission and Supreme Court had turned activist. The CAG has now followed suit.
    ….
    Despite excesses, an activist CAG represents a net gain for democracy. Along with the Supreme Court, the CAG has ensured that most natural resources will be auctioned in future. That is a huge gain in fairness.
    After the Election Commission and Supreme Court, the CAG has become the third institution revolting against a corrupt, callous state. We need such revolts.
    An article from aiyar in TOI.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “”All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing.”"
    Edmund Burke.

    Hopefully, finally good men of our country are waking up.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Beautifully said.

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  • Anonymous

    “Muslim Outfits a Scary Lot” – today’s Hyderaabd Chronicle, though it has not included Owaisi’s rowdy MIM Musselman party.

    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/kozhikode/are-muslim-outfits-such-scary-lot-303

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  • Anonymous

    A gangster, accompanied by his attorney, walks into a room to meet with his accountant. Gangster asks the accountant, “where’s the three million bucks you embezzled from me?”
    The accountant doesn’t answer.
    Gangster asks again, “where’s the three million bucks you embezzled from me?”
    The attorney interrupts, “Sir, the man is a deaf-mute and cannot understand you, but I can interpret for you.”
    Gangster says, “well, ask him where the fu… money is.”
    The attorney, using sign language, asks the accountant where the three million dollars is.
    The accountant signs back, “I don’t know what you’re talking about.”
    The attorney interprets to the gangster, ” He doesn’t know what you’re talking about ”
    gangster pulls out a pistol, puts it to the temple of the accountant, ***** the hammer and says, “Ask him again where the money is
    The attorney signs to the accountant, “He wants to know where it is!”
    The accountant signs back, “Okay! Okay! The money’s hidden in a suitcase behind the shed in my backyard!”
    Gangster says, what did he say?”
    The attorney interprets “He says that you don’t have the guts to pull the trigger.”

    Good morning friends.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This perhaps is why American attorneys are so popular.

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  • Anonymous

    When people do
    “AAH & OOH”
    From 9pm to 3am
    it’s called SEX
    &

    When they do that
    from 9am to 3pm.
    It’s calld SENSEX !!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    9PM to 3AM. Marathon sex ? Actually more than marathon.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Great one.

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  • Dr Mishra

    come on dont tell me no one spotted it-
    engrich=ramavtar=mangalam
    am I right Vijay Shenoy Mohan ? etc

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay thinks he is Ravi but I think that he is our own PathakG who
    enjoys playing different rolls.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I cannot accuse Pathakji of being juvenile and afflicted with aspeech impairment.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Dr Mishra and Mohan

    Mangalam come when Ravi comes.
    Mangalam makes fun about Hindu rashtra as Ravi does…

    His broken English is a sham…
    His obsession with poosie a symptom of a sex denied man…

    But then he keeps talking Ramdev
    PathaK G too does the same thing crave !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    poosie to ****.fly long patang in empty sky.dont sing song.come to asram.sing bhajan.eat gambhari get all disise cure.bp to cancer all fix. ramdev mustad oild lathi fix all. jai hind.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Conclusion: Engrich works as domestic servant in Pathakji’s house and when Pathakji takes rest after attacking RSS, Ramdev, Anna Hazare and tires of praising Sonia G, Baby G, DigvinashG etc, Engrich takes charge of the lap top and …………

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    vijay ! Reply:

    gr8 answer…!

    Anonymous Reply:

    all **** specialist run when **** comes.**** question you run.say big things but not answer ****.ramdev mustad oild lathi fix all.say friends vote for ramdev in 2014. jai hind.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Engrich under opium influence=Mangalam.

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  • Anonymous

    Reaping the wages of pandering to Islamism for votes

    http://www.niticentral.com/2012/08/islamism-is-not-a-moderate-idea-dont-pander-to-it.html

    In Southern India where there never used to be visible signs of difference between the
    attire or the surnames of Hindus and Muslims there now are. I personally started
    noticing them about 20 years ago in Tamil Nadu where I met Muslim women in
    Coimbatore who had taken to wearing salwar-kameez and speaking Urdu. The same
    sort of thing is happening in Maharashtra and there are madarsas in villages now
    that teach Urdu. In Rajasthan I have visited villages near Nagaur that look as
    if they belonged in Saudi Arabia. At a famous shrine near one of them I was
    astounded to see a board that spoke of how India was a land of darkness and
    superstition until Islam arrived. The shrine commemorated an Iraqi mullah who
    had come all the way from Baghdad to teach us barbarians about Allah’s message.

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  • Anonymous

    BODO-MUSLIM CONFLICT in ASSAM – Historical Roots

    http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers52/paper5178.html

    Excellent article.

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  • Anonymous

    Mohinder Amarnath ki wife ko paper padh kar attack aa gaya.

    Kyon?

    Paper me headline tha:
    “Global Warming se Amarnath ka ling pigal raha hai”

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    vijay ! Reply:

    gr8 one!

    Global warning se tora bora wale mein shevta lingam bhi pighal gaya hai kya?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Looking at the age of Amarnath, his wife. Should not worry much.
    Nice joke – never heard before.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The question is: Is Amarnath himself worried?

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  • vijay !

    NDTV says:
    Coal-gate: CBI finds evidence of wrongdoing by 142 companies; likely to file criminal charges against five, say sources.

    I hope this is just not filifng cases in BJP states… to deflect attention…

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  • Anonymous

    BJP has finally said what I wanted them to have said:

    Arun Jaitley said, “We want the PM to be visibly responsible and quit. Cancel all 142 coal blocks and put them to competitive bidding.” He added, “We do not stand alone. But on this issue even if we have to stand alone, it would be a majestic isolation.”

    The ball is in your court, Congress.

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    RajendraGodara Reply:

    Was Arun a BJP leader back in 2005 ? Didn’t he know 3 BJP CM’s ( out of 4 State CM’s ) gave in writing opposing the auction process?
    If they cancel, same Arun will cry aloud – because there was a hanky panky, UPA cancelled the contracts.

    BJP leaders should tell the country – “yes, we are the culprits. We opposed the auction plan in 2005. We are sorry. we didn’t know that the country would lose 1.85 lakh crores because of our myopic action. We now want to correct that mistake. We request the prime Minister to cancel all the contracts and put all coal blocks on auction”.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    The process of Auction could have been done by the Govt of India by 1. amending Mines & Minerals (Development & Regulation) Act. 2. by pursuing the the passage of the Coal Mines Nationalisation (Amendment) Bill, 2000 . This was never done by the Govt of India headed by Manmohan Singh , although the BJP through its MP Hansraj Ahir had been writing to Manmohan Singh about it. Manmohan Singh is clearly trying to shift the blame. The CMs who opposed were only trying to ensure coal supply to their Power Plants.

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    RajendraGodara Reply:

    Let the BJP leaders stand in front of the TV Cameras and say – ” we wanted a regular coal supply and that is reason we opposed the auction route.

    Our CM of MP recommended Anil Ambani’s case to transfer the coal from Sasan for other uses through which ADAG profitted 29,000 Crores. “

    Anonymous Reply:

    Forget the specifics, I know who you possibly are – the master of deflection and spin. Let’s cancel everything and start afresh using competitive bidding. We wold take take care of our loss – we’d reimburse the Ambanis!!

    RajendraGodara Reply:

    Everything is in specifics. The BJP is master of lies, deflection and spin.

    No contract must be cancelled. This country has seen enough of flip-flop to the dismay of the World investors.

    Desist from playing dirty politics.

    Anonymous Reply:

    So, you care more about the world investors than the tax-payers? Now you stand exposed.

    RajendraGodara Reply:

    Tax payers have not lost anything. Except for few pretending to have lost their lives.

    Anonymous Reply:

    The coal blocks have been given away to private players to mine at their leisure (all this was done in name of urgency, lest you forget). Can the govt. carry out mining in the already allocated coal blocks? If not, we have definitely lost it.

    Refer to your own comment a few posts above where you are suggesting a profit of 29000 crores to ADAG. At whose cost has this profit come, in that case?

    RajendraGodara Reply:

    The coal blocks were allocated after considering all coal block owning states’ views and recommendation.
    Put all those CM’s behind bar for opposing the coal action.

    Moreover, no point dragging this chat over chai and pakoda.

    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    M J Akbar wrote ….” But the catch is in the opening sentence of the quoted CAG paragraph. The loss to government was due to a “delay in the introduction of the process of competitive bidding”. There was a system in place, which all parties when in government used. But in 2004, after the UPA came to power, and possibly encouraged by Dr Singh’s reputation for probity, Coal Secretary P.C. Parakh recommended, in a formal note dated 16 July 2004, a change to auction on the valid grounds that this would be less open to favouritism and generate far more revenue. This view emerged from a meeting with all stakeholders, held on 28 June 2004. One would imagine that the Cabinet would applaud. Instead the idea was blocked by officials within the Prime Minister’s Office. On 11 September 2004, PMO circulated a note asserting that there were flaws in competitive bidding; on 1 November 2004, PMO opposed an amendment to the Coal Mines (Nationalisation) Act, 1973. Why? There is no convincing answer. These are not the only instances. And if auction was wrong then, how has it suddenly become right after at least 57 blocks were awarded by this government to private businessmen — a list that includes some very famous names along with the usual lot of unknowns. A draft Mines and Minerals Bill incorporating auctions was finally readied in 2011, but it still has not been passed.”…..

    RajendraGodara Reply:

    Search the google what changes needed in laws and process for this switch.

    The process could have been faster had all coal block owning not resisted the auction process. Despite the interim arrangement of the screening committee, UPA pursued with the changes to enable the auction process.

    The delay is because the 3 BJP states opposed the auction process.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @twitter-74991012:disqus I have read the article by M J Akbar and he has got it absolutely right. In the hind sight, I think the BJP has played a master-stroke by boycotting the parliament and eventually taking the issue to the people’s court.

    Anonymous Reply:

    hear, hear (clap, clap, clap, clap)

    Anonymous Reply:

    We want Pathakji to stand before the TV cameras and swear on mother Sonia that he is NOT Rajendra Godhra.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Congress has been suggesting over past couple of days that the opposition ruled state CMs recommended allocation as opposed to auction. The then Coal Min. accepted them. Now we want them cancelled and since you work as per our suggestions, why don’t you do what we suggest. And I assure you that we won’t cry foul over it.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    “The coal portfolio has always been held by the Congress, and for a very long spell by the prime minister himself. Even the two ministers of state who assisted him in the coal ministry, Dasari Narayana Rao and Santosh Bagrodia, are from the Congress. So there are no alibis. And here is the story that the leadership of the BJP seems to believe: that the mines were given out on a cash-and-carry basis, that allottees were paying the powers that be and simply reporting to the prime minister’s office with little slips confirming that they had paid their tribute, to collect their mines as “negotiated.”

    SHEKHAR GUPTA IN INDIAN EXPRESS,

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/national-interest-coal-vs-coalition/992928/0

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  • vijay !

    ~~ CRONY CAPITALISM, DAHLAS AND INDIA ~~~
    ——————————————————————————————-

    @ Mohan

    Ex Congress Minister Gopal Kanda had an airlines with 3 small planes– all grounded.

    A staff of ten people.

    and

    and

    and

    61 AIRHOSTESSES!!

    yeh Kya ho raha hai UPA aj mein?

    Of course big names like VIrgin find it difficult to operate an airline in India as they dont get licences. Only the crony capitalists like Kanda do !

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Actual need was for only two air hostesses.
    The rest are all hostesses-to take care of all the bosses.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    It takes a Congress Minister of HOme in to convert simple innocent girls into suicide cases.

    I know a few airhostesses. Simple adventurous girls looking for an exciting glamorous career. Kanda Used their simplicity to his advantage.

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  • pankaj#1

    Engrich;
    What you know about Assam? What is happening in Bodoland? will you please shed some light? and as far as your secularism is concerned, let us hear about mumbai vandalism etc and PFI. Your views please.

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  • Anonymous

    ‘Deeply disappointed’ by PM statement on coal issue: Advani

    http://www.samachar.com/Deeply-disappointed-by-PM-statement-on-coal-issue-Advani-mi1uJXbejgc.html

    “In the days of Emergency, the Prime Minister of the ruling party had said
    they had to impose it due to judiciary and state of democracy. This is the same
    thing when the PM blames federalism (Oppn-ruled states apparently opposed
    competitive bidding of coal blocks), the Law Ministry and attacks constitutional
    bodies like CAG,” he said.
    “Today I recollect that one of the Speakers (of Lok Sabha) had said that to
    attack CAG is to attack a constitutional body. And now when the Prime Minister
    himself is doing it, this is very surprising,” said Advani, who was hear to
    attend a function. “Supreme Court has said one of the salient features of the Constitution is federalism and he is blaming federalism for corruption,” the former Deputy Prime Minister said.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Remind Advani about the constitutional bodies when he attacked the EC and SC.

    A petty man always remains petty.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And a petty, bar maid pretends to be the empress of India!

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  • vijay !

    Imagine Congress man YSR giving 1.4 lakh acres to his son for mining!

    WOh bhi Congressi thaa…

    And a true one at that as he believed in dynastic succession!

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  • Anonymous

    Where is Gopiji? Not seen him since yesterday. Hope everything in ok.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Yes I am missing him. Maybe busy in festival.

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay, Pathak-

    I need some edu on this “coal gate”. Is the issue that certain firms were favored in exchange for bribe, or that the government lost “potential revenue” by not following open auction?

    How is this huge loss estimate made If it is the case of missed potential revenue/fee opportunity? Is there any past yardstick or a number based on the potential yield, market rate etc?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    It is a case of missed potential earnings… most likely due to bribes which would have been10 % of the figure.

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  • pankaj#1

    PathakG;
    Now CBI, Assam Police and every one is calling this NE problem as Communal conflagration. To begin with some body stressed that it is a sectarian violence and communal violence can happen only in Gujrat?
    I believe, I was the first person to point out Azad maidan incident as grave( with advantage of reading this news first) and was phooh phooed. It is clear, that Azad maidan incident was just a test to see government resolve, when found wanting, they came out with SMS and an upheavel was created. Time could have been meticulously selected as India was to attend NAM in Tehran and use of force against rioters would have been played in the hands of pakistan.
    Why GOI brings it self to this pass?? Just impartial policing, without favors to owaisis, madanis, leaguees and such eminents, will serve the governance suitably. Do not you think that by such actions, Hindus will desert congress enmass??? have you ever thought of that possibility? or you think congress will continue to deprive/ decisive, poor, illiterate hindus for long time in future too.
    BTW, a letter in TOI will show, how Muslim behave, when in minority and when in majority. Good people amongst muslims are #1 coward or in cahoot with radicals as opposed to hindus, where so called liberals, go overboard in showing their superiority and a normal person is dubbed as communal.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Moderate people, be it from any religion, tend to keep away when a few hardcore extremists create havoc. It has happened everywhere, all the time. I am sure you too have kept quiet when you should have spoken.

    Think.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    PathakG;
    Emphatic NEVER.
    I have saved muslim women, when they were most vulnerable. That is humanism, nothing to do with any religion,not for me.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Who said about religion ?
    =======
    I am sure you too have kept quiet when you should have spoken.

    Think.
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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    PathakG;
    You succeeded, Got me confused. Tell me, where I kept quiet, when I should have spoken? Coal-gate, I do not know anything about it, hence keeping quiet.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Many a time in life, there were situations…..you too have kept quiet when you should have spoken for whatever reason. But the fact is that we too remained silent when we could have spoken. So no point blaming the moderate hindus or muslims for keeping quiet. Most of the moderate intellectuals have kept quiet during the Lokpal agitation or even this coalgate noise even knowing the truth. If they speak, then some trolls will abuse them with the choicest ma behen gaalis. So sometimes it’s better to keep quiet.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji,

    the problem with you pseudo seculars is that you speak, loudly, when you should have kept silent and when you should actually speak you remain mum.

    Anonymous Reply:

    @ Shenoy

    The problem with you acute-nationalists is that you do not know when to keep quiet and don’t stop dancing with false pride.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ho said anything about religion?

    Pathakji, that was exactly Pankaj’s point which as a secularly challenged person, you ducked. Assam was buring in a communal conflagration and all the seculars had conjured up a hastily designed response: this is not about religion, it is about Bodos and Non-Bodos, about land and jobs etc., etc.

    Now no secular talks about these social issues, but trying to put the blame on army, BJP, RSS etc.

  • Anonymous

    @ Vinay

    This post was for your you. Somehow it appeared as a solo post.

    The Coalgate :

    1) Till 2004, nobody mooted the auction route. Yes, you got it right. Between 1998 and 2004, NDA never considered the auction route.

    2) In 2004, UPA mooted the auction option.

    3) 4 coal mine owning states opposed the auction route. 3 of them were BJP ruled states.

    4) Thse BJP ruled states gave reasoning from “coal supply getting delayed ” to ” “federal mechanism” ( states must have independent option to assert their rights.

    5) These BJP states gave these objections in writing.

    6) The coal blocks were allocated through a “screening committee” represented by the state bureaucrats / politicians.

    7) The state CM’s brought in their own agenda and pushed for their own cases. For example, the CM of Madhya Pradesh pushed for a case wherein Anil Ambani was allowed to uses unused coal from Sasan elsewhere.
    8) While in 2005, the screening committee method was “continued”, the UPA Govt. proceeded with some changes in laws to accommodate the auction route. Though it wanted the auction option, it did not want use the “administrative action”, as it could have led to some litigation in the court.

    9) As you must have noticed, there was not a single congress ruled state in group of states who opposed the auction route,

    10 ) The UPA Govt. went in for the “screening committee” route as all BJP ruled states wanted to follow their “independent and federal structure”.

    BackGround of CIL :

    1) Coal India Limited operates all the mines.

    2) It operates most of the mines which are in best locations and quite accessible.

    3) The cost of Coal India is low as it has been running the mines for a long time and well subsidised.

    Here comes the CAG :

    1) Till 2004, the screening committee route was followed. So the CAG never had any issue.

    2) Since, UPA had proposed the auction route in 2005, it got the second option to compare.

    3) The CAG “knew” that UPA had mooted the auction route, but could not implement it for above mentioned reasons.

    4) The CAG did not say the country lost the money because of the “screening committee” option. Then it would have directly cast aspersion on the previous NDA Govt.

    5) So the CAG did a bit of innovation. It said because of “DELAY” in implementing the auction route, the country lost 1.5 lakh crores. [ Hit UPA Govt. in any manner ]

    6) Actually, the CAG’s first figure was 10 lakh crores which was fed to the press. When it was pointed out that the figure with GDP data, it moderates the figure to 1/10. [ It had nothing to do with the number of allocated mines vanishing overnight. or the Govt. taking back the 9/10 coal from the parties. The figure was arbitrary and laughable.

    7) The CAG calculates the cost based on Coal India's low cost which could be very different from the cost to the private developers.
    8) The CAG estimates at 100% extraction level while in practice the utilisation level is 40%. [ So deduct 60% from CAG's valuation ]. Though this data is based on the utilisation data of Coal India, the CAG conveniently ignored this but picked up CIL’s costing.

    9) The CAG “deliberately did not interact” with the coal ministry for clarification or explanation.

    10 ) There is no option in Income Tax about the “presumtive loss” which the CAG has admitted in JPC.

    11) The CAG insists the loss as real while not explaining to the countrymen what is the defination of the presumptive loss in each case.

    12) The CAG takes the best price of particular mine and then calculates for all the mines while calculates the loss for all the mines. Do we need qualified people to be an auditoe like this ?

    13 ) In coalgate, it takes the “low cost of CIL” to benchmark, while in Delhi airport case, it takes the “high land price” of the Delhi.

    It’s like taking Hema malini’s face, Rakhi Sawant’s boobs, Deepika Padukones legs and Parveen babi’s *** and then comparing what’s missing in your wife.

    Here comes the BJP :

    1) BJP ruled states oppose the auction route in writing in 2005.

    2) Their own CM’s recommended private part’s case strongly to the Central Govt.

    3) Ajay Sancheti, the business partner of Gadhakari gets mines in MP in favourable terms. He gets quality coal mines at the lowest price.

    4) The BJP creates a hawa that the loss is not notional but actual.

    5) In 2009, the BJP tried “weak Prime Minister” slur. It didn’t stick. This time, they are trying ” Corrupt Prime Minister” slur, hoping some of it would stick.

    6) For public posturing, BJP can go down to any petty level. In last 10 days they have been shifting goals. First blame the PM directly taking money. Once exposed that it was the BJP ruled states actually opposed the move, they like ” shameless pimp on the Delhi GB Road” continued to grin and said the PM is morally and politically responsible for for their ( BJP ) own action. Yes, the country is looking forward to being ruled by these pimps.

    7) The BJP does not discuss or debate in the parliament. It eloquently talks in front of the TV camera.
    8) When the PM makes a detailed point wise statement, the BJP says the CAG report is not supposed to be discussed in the parliament. Only place where it can be discussed is at PAC !!!!!

    —————
    9) Raje, the CM of rajasthan said the competitive bidding was ” against the spirit of the Sarkaria Commission recommendations”.

    10 ) Raman Singh (Chhattisgarh) wrote to the PM in June 2005 seeking continuation of the extant policy of coal block allocation.

    11) The Chhattisgarh chief minister had requested that any change in coal policy be made after arriving at a consensus between the central government and the states.

    ————

    Here comes Team Anna :

    1) Shouts from the rooftop about UPA coalgate holding the PM responsible.

    2) Does not talk about the involvement of BJP state Govt. at all. That means they always threw muck at UPA without knowing the full fact.

    3) The A team goes to demonstrate at the PM’s house. A small D team ( Sanjay Singh and one more person ) goes to Gadkari’s house to demonstrate.

    3) Kiran Bedi frowns at the demonstration at BJP President’s house telling them how can they forget about the support they have been receiving from BJP ! She says she would be back with the team if the team becomes “focussed and inclusive” by targetting only the UPA Govt.

    Nice honesty lecture ! Isn’t it ?

    Here comes Vijay :

    1) Vinay, a supposed to be a friend of Vijay, asks for an honest opinion.

    2) Like BJP, the intelectually dishonest political party who can’t afford to be honest with itself for their pubic stated position, Vijay too can’t be even honest with himself or his own friends.

    3) Vijay feeds his friend Vinay that 10% bribes story. Forgetting the fact out of 4 states, 2 states are BJP ruled states and 4th one was Communist ruled WB.

    4) Vijay keeps dancing in Jitendra’s white shoes exactly like those BJP politicians.

    5) Vijay has proved intellectually dishonest most of the time despite his so called IIT education. He has not differentiated in any manner from those half-literate BJP street slogan shouters, not even amongst a small set of friends.

    Some interesting facts :

    We all know about this ridiculous notional loss figure. But there are few interesting facts to consider.

    1) The actual mines operate at below 40% level while CAG has calculated at 100% level. [ Has anybody heard of the occupancy rates in hotel industry ? ]

    2) 26% will come to the Govt in the form of taxes.

    3) More than 20% all private parties have use for the development of the local area as mandated by the contract.

    4) The CAG does not tell the public this so called notional loss would have incurred in 25 years. [ Is this CAG intellectually honest and the top most auditor of this country ?

    ===

    Note :***

    1 ) A parent feels bad when he sees his child starts indulging in bad things.

    2) But when the child becomes a confirmed bad character, the parent has no choice but support the child’s bad activities. Infact he starts defending and taking pride in his child’s activities/achievement because the child is capable of bring (bad) name through those activities only.

    *** This is for Ishwar who was feeling uncomfortable with BJP’s behaviour few days back but now takes pride in them thinking the disruption of the parliament as a “master stroke”.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Thanks pathak G for the nice long reply.

    I am now again in a 2 week long writing a book/ business travel mode from tomorrow evening and maybe would have a slightly curtailed presence, depending on the internet connectivitly. But would certainly answer this one…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Would we really see any qualitative difference in your reply ?

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Yes as always it would be honest, close to the truth and would have no spin.

    If your heart and ideals are correct you dont have to abuse anybody

    Anonymous Reply:

    We will wait holding our breath.

    vijay ! Reply:

    That is what is taught in Ramdev pranayam !

    Anonymous Reply:

    I prefer Art of Living Kriyas.

    vijay ! Reply:

    ok ! Going for my jog now. Nothing like joggin 30 minutes. Gets ur blood circulation on…

    vijay ! Reply:

    Art of living guru Sr sri has been attacked y your guru– Digviansh Singh

    Anonymous Reply:

    A long, boring post, full of quarter truths divided by 10.

    A nice attempt to white wash the UPA and its black faced PM.

    But the guilt and corruption cannot be washed away by attacking CAG and opposition in parliament.

    Best way out for the black faced PM and his white goddess mataji is to pack up wholesale and call for fresh elections.

    Even to the most apolitical aam aadmi, it has become clear that this government is a spent force.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Not only BJP politicians must be black faced, but also be made to sit on Vijay’s donkey friends and paraded on the street with chinese crackers on the tail.

    May be you can lead the parade.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    But, for heaven’s sake do not leave your lap top to engrich or Amangalam Ravi.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I’m loving it. Would respond after 2 pm today.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Don’t expect a counter-reply in a hurry. I am off to work now.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    @ Pathak G

    Is that work in the COngress office where counter replies are being framed to the corruption charges?

    Anonymous Reply:

    I am ready with my response. It took me an hour to write it.

    +++++++++++
    Coalgate
    +++++++++++

    1. The allocation of coal blocks didn’t begin in 1998. Congress was in power before NDA and the same method was being used since 1993. Why it wasn’t a big deal then? The difference between the cost of coal imported and the one mined in India wasn’t big enough to make a huge profit and hence not many were interested in mining. CAG is smart enough to see through this reason and he has focussed his report on what happened after 2004 when the coal prices started moving up and there was an attempt by private players to win captive mines as imports were not cheap any more. Please see the attached image

    2. Yes, the UPA mooted the idea but it is also the one who scuttled it. The idea was mooted in June 2004 and there was a note from PMO in September 2004 which detailed the disadvantages of allocation of coal through competetive bidding. (Page 23 CAG report)

    3. Please read Mr. Saxena’s post above which very clearly states the responsibility of the decision maker – irrespective of the suggestion offered by anyone.

    4 and 5. If the BJP ruled state CM’s reasons were not right, why did you accept them? There was no coalition-compulsion there.

    6. Even if the screening committee was well represented by members of different states, it did not ensure transparency. The CAG has castigated the screening committee. It says there in nothing on record to suggest how one applicant was chosen over the other by them.

    7. Sasan – Ambani issue: same reply as point 3. In case you are suggesting that the MP state CM made money by recommending allowing Reliance to move excess coal elsewhere, what did the central govt. do about it?

    8, 9 and 10. Again the same excuse. We did it because the BJP ruled state CM’s wanted this. Today, if the same CM’s want the PM to resign, would he do that? No – lets not use this arguement anymore. You had the power to decide and you could have always over-ruled the CM’s recommendation if they didn’t have valid reasons.

    +++++++
    Background of CIL
    +++++++

    Yes, the CIL operates all the mines. But, aren’t the private operators supposed to be more efficient than any ’sarkari’ organisation. If the CIL has the advantage of experince, the private players have the advantage of better technology and professional workforce. Why else do we need to give away the coal-blocks to them?

    +++++++++++++
    Here comes the CAG
    +++++++++++++

    The post is getting too long. Let me club some answers. You are casting aspersions on the CAG now. The Congress has its appointee in most constitutional bodies – even the incumbent CAG has been appointed by them. So, what the point? If his report is against you (remember – the CAG has not said nothing about the role of state CM’s), sack him.

    Just because something (wrong or right) was done under the NDA regime and under Congress regime too before them, it doesn’t give you a licence to continue. Circumstances change and we need to evolve.

    7 and 8. The cost to private players can’t be any more than CIL. if they were as inefficient as CIL, we ddidn’t need to give away coal-blocks to them. They could have stayed with the government. The CAG would of course give you the maximum amount of revenue lost – the actual production could well be 40%. No one is saying, the figures are sacrosanct.

    Rest…. If you don’t agree with the CAG figures because of the methodology, that could be talked about separately. First, make it clear if there has been a loss (amount could be achieved by the means of your choice) or there has been zero-loss!!!

    ++++++++
    Here comes the BJP
    ++++++++

    Yes. the BJP rules state CM’s suggested continuing the allocation route. They explained there reasons in the letter to the Min. of Coal. If they were not good enough, you could have sent them to a dustbin.

    You are suggesting that Sancheti got a mine in MP. Would you care to let us know so as to how many mines did the Jindals get?

    The BJP is not creating the hawa. If you give away the mines, the loss in not notional anymore – it is real. The amount of loss could be debated. NDA lost elections in 2009 – it doesn’t automatically make the PM strong. There were other reasons. MMS has himself admitted to coalition compulsions and inducted Shinde as HM because of his loyalty to MadamG. Are these signs of strength?

    Yes, I did want them to discuss it in the parliament to begin with. That’s the most rational thing to do. However, as a political party, you need to take some decisions keeping in mind the electoral dividend. The longer this issue stays alive, the better the dividend. A one day discussion in parliament would not have had the same result.

    ++++++++++++
    Here comes Team Anna
    ++++++++++++

    There strategy has been right to begin with. They wanted change in the law/system to curb corruption. Who can do this – the party in power or the one is opposition? Hence, Kiran Bedi is right in saying that they should protest only against the ruling party for having failed to bring a strong LokPal bill.

    ++++++++++
    Some Interesting facts
    ++++++++++

    1. I know about hotel occupancy rates. The CIL mines may operate at 40% and the CAG may have calculated it based on 100%. However, if the private players were as inefficient as the CIL, why do we need to give away our scarce resource to them at the first place?

    2. 26% would come to the govt as tax – agreed.

    3. 20% would be used for development of local area. Where is this mentioned in the present allocation contract? It might be the case when the MMDR bill becomes a law. It’s not a law yet.

    4. Well, the country has lost it already – the private parties can make profits over 25 years or 100 years, that’s besides the point.

    5. Why do you fight elections against the NDA if you intend to do the same thing as they were doing anyways?

    6. The PM brought the auction route when the horse had already bolted. How many mines have been given away through auctions – only one. It clearly means that those who wanted it got it under the allocation route under the leadership of an honest PM.

    +++++
    Here comes Ishwar
    +++++

    I agree that I wanted the BJP to debate things in parliament, but they had something else in mind. I don’t fault them for this – after all, we are in politics.

    Now, a couple straight questions (Yes or No) for you PathakG.

    a) Is this a scam?
    b) Has there been a loss?
    c) Did the BJP make money?
    d) Are you ready to have the allocation cancelled?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Brilliant. I am loving it. I read every word you have written carefully.

    You have covered all the ground fully, efficiently and cogently, giving absolutely factual and befitting reposte’s to Pathakji’s biased, motivated and save-congress-from-any-kind of-scandal commitment.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Ishwar
    ..great post

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Ishwar a great rebuttal !

    I think you have answered on behalf of many of us!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Superb reply. Waiting for a attack from Pathak.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    PathakG is probably scanning the pages of HamaraCongress to find the answers. Just having some fun till the time PathkG comes back and pull the carpet below my feet. :D :D

    Anonymous Reply:

    Some scanning help :

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    The MOC introduced the system of bank guarantee (BG) in March 2005 to ensure timely production. The audit observed that there was a delay in introducing BG and linking it with milestones. This meant that BG could not be applied for 46 blocks allocated before 2005, and penalty for not meeting milestones could not be imposed for 118 blocks allotted before July 2007. In the absence of any accounting methodology, MOC could not cash BG amounting to Rs 13 crore against six blocks. As of November 2011, BGs amounting to Rs 312 crore in respect of 15 blocks had lapsed and were not renewed.
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    Anonymous Reply:

    6.30 am : I posted my reply/
    8.30am : Somebody flagged. It was deleted.
    Shall give another try later.

    Tried again. It gets deleted. Any online help ?

    Looks like there is a Trojan horse in HT’s support department.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    It is fundamental tenet of Administrative Law , in India , that if powers and responsibilities are vested in a particular authority , by Law and Rules framed thereunder , then that Authority alone is liable for discharge of those duties. The liability of wrongful exercise or negligence in rightful exercise shall rest fully on that authority. In the course of discharge , he may consult or take opinions from others, but the duty and responsibility shall be his.
    But the present PM of India puts forth a strange and now familiar defence all the time , he always blames others for all his own wrong-doing. So in case of 2G it was the ally and coalition politics. In the case of that CVC Thomas.. full facts were not placed before him. In the case of CWG ..it was due to shortage of time and national prestige .. and in the case of Coalgate it was letters written by 3 BJP CMs and the Union Law Ministry, compulsions of democracy , objections of stakeholders , etc etc.No wonder he proudly relies on his own “Khamoshi” as the remedy of all his problems …as he thinks that he owes a duty only to self … or to the lady who appointed him … but none towards the Nation.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Brilliant.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    MMS has forgotten that he is PM of India. He is talking like a typical
    husband who has no choice but to remain always khamosh in front of his
    wife.

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  • Anonymous

    Kapil Sibal is the happiest man in the whole of the marooned UPA ministry today.

    He now has Chidambaram to giove him company. Earlier Sibal was all alone in the “zero loss” group. Now Chidambaram too says zero loss in coalgate” scandal and the tag somehow has stuck, despite a hurried “maine aisa toh nahin kahaa thaa” kind of denial.

    The rest of the ministers are all zeroes.

    Has anybody noticed the colour of Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh’s face yesterday, when he attacked the CAG and the opposition for all the corruption under his own watch in the coal ministry?

    It was black. Kyonki, koyle ke dhande main munh kaala.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Shenoy Saab
    Apna munh kala karne ki kala mein Congress se bada koi kalakaar nahin.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Saxena sahab;
    good use of kala and Kaala.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pankaj ji, Praveen Saxenaji,

    yes, inki kalaa aur kalayionka safai aur kisi mein bhi nahin hai.

  • Anonymous

    Couldn’t join you guys as something wrong with my internet connection at
    my residence. Here is joke of the day.

    Aunty: Tum mujhe nanga dekh kar bhag kyun gaye?
    Papu : Mummy ne kaha tha ki nangi aurat dekhne se insaan pathar ka ho jata
    hai, aur mera ek hissa sakht hone laga tha .

    Good day gentlemen.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Now that the PM of India has made it official ….that whatever the nature of the crisis or the issue which confronts the country … the nation will only have his “Khamoshi” in return…. ( He finds great virtue in his “Khamoshi”.)
    The wretched Indian .. the UPA loves to call him the “Aam Aadmi “asks .. why is he being made to pay Rs 1.30 lacs per month to Mr Pankaj Pachauri , the gentleman the PM has appointed as his Media Adviser in his Office.
    Needless to say … the PM also has a seperate PR set-up in the PIB.

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  • Anonymous

    NaMo’s stand more credible than liberal rage

    http://www.niticentral.com/2012/08/namos-stand-more-credible-than-liberal-rage.html

    In December of 2007, Karan Thapar wrote a column in the Hindustan Times with
    hateful rhetoric against Narendra Modi, using phrases like “sudden removal of
    Narendra Modi”. In July of 2010, Vir Sanghvi, writing in a column, called
    Narendra Modi a Serbian war criminal. This, after routinely slandering Modi as a
    “mass murderer” and likening him to Hitler.

    In fact, one has lost count of the number of hate-filled columns written by
    assorted Left-liberal and Muslim commentators repeating the Hitler slur. Leave
    alone the amount of abuse and personal slander, including explicit threats, that
    come Modi’s way across social media on a daily basis.

    Hence it was amusing to see celebrity television anchors and assorted voices
    in social media cry hypocrisy over Modi’s decision to protest the Sonia
    Gandhi-led UPA’s clumsy attempt at political censorship of the Internet.
    Narendra Modi protests censorship by UPA

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    it is interesting how the two “most secular among secular editors”, Karan Thapar and Vir Sanghvi are doing.

    Karan Thapar is busy staying relevant, while an unrelenting media is busy pushing him to the ice age.

    Vir Sanghvi is trying hard to come out of the dustbin of history into which the Radia tapes had thrown him.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Vir Sanghvi now hangs around Bangkok. Saw him there six months back and I chatted him for a minute or two. He says he loves the place ….

    Well it is a very interesting dustbin to hang around !

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  • Anonymous

    “The Chawla committee asks for an overthrow of this nexus. But that would mean that the presidential reference the government made to the Supreme Court in February this year will become null and void. The reference made in the context of the 2G scam had questioned whether the government needed to be bound by such rules of allocation for every sector.
    It is strange that the same government that put up this reference has to now defend the reverse position — that it believes in an auction-based allocation for the coal sector. In other words, just six months after the government suggested that it need not follow the telecom model of auctions for other sectors, the prime minister has told Parliament that he has firmly supported auction for coal…………”

    A VERY GOOD ARTICLE IN THE INDIAN EXPRESS.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/ambivalent-about-auctions/994186/0

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  • Anonymous

    Who killed economic growth — Sonia

    What Tony Joseph says is what we all have been saying; but nice to hear from one more

    http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/tony-joseph-who-killed-growth-/484394/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It was also there on rediff yesterday – it says the Sonia led NAC only talks about giving away doles. It has no idea for growth. Sonia G hasn’t been able to align the allies in support of the reforms needed by the country.

    Good one.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopiji,

    we have been saying the same thing since quite some. Ms. Gandhi does not know ABC of economics and she has the full power to spend government money as per her whims and no one has an iota of courage to question her.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan

    I hope BJP can come to power in 2014.. However, it looks like that they will become an enabler of another Congress govt in 2014 without a cohesive plan, integrated leadership/communication etc!

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  • Anonymous

    Over 8000 quintals of wheat, rice missing: Officials

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Over-8000-quintals-of-wheat-rice-missing-Officials/articleshow/15894159.cms

    This is from the state where a minister had allowed his people to steal little.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Peanuts!!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Peanuts for peanut-sized brains, indeed!

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    8 Lakh Crore ton “SIEGED” iron ore out of 35 lakh crore tonnes have been sold illegally ( yes vanished ) in Karnataka recently.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes you right, I only steal because you are also a thief.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    A historically quiet, mixed (Muslim/non religious Russian) area of Kazan (in Russia) experiences Islamic insurgency – moderates being targeted.. Russia/Putin does not know what to do..

    I guess what you guys experience in India – Assam riots, Azad Maidan riot etc – is a part of this worldwide jehadi movement spearheaded by extremist Muslims

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/world/europe/radical-islamic-attacks-in-moderate-region-unnerve-kremlin.html?pagewanted=all

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Looks like RSS hand behind this. Mohan Bhagwat and Nitin Gadkari
    should be extradited to Russia.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    With one condition. They should be allowed to wear woollen dresses instead of the khaki knicker and kaali topi, because of the extreme cold.

    [Reply]

    vijay ! Reply:

    My hunt on Google maps shows that the two guys from Tora Bora are there now…,

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    The Wahabi extremism is a real international threat..

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    What a lovely combination.

    A Hindu President

    Muslim Vice President

    Sikh Prime Minister

    Christian Defence Minister

    With an Italian Remote Controller.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    And a Swiss banker!
    Enough to bankrupt the country.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    And Dalit CM’s.

    And CM’s, native of gayuna and lesbea

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    If you want me to add a Dalit.

    Dalit Home Minister

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    Anonymous Reply:

    You started it. Who am I to ask you to add !

    Anonymous Reply:

    Since I am a very religious person, I only mentioned religion of our people holding top positions. You insisted on adding caste aslo so I had no choice but to oblige you.

    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    I didn’t know “italian” was a religion in your dictionary.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please don’t compare SoniaG with these small people like
    President, PM, CM and all. She is above all of them that is why all these are controlled by this great lady.

  • Anonymous

    Caught between a rock and a hard place!

    http://www.niticentral.com/2012/08/caught-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place.html

    Congress president Sonia Gandhi’s belligerence has backfired.
    She accused the main Opposition party of holding the Government to “ransom by
    blackmail, which has become the political bread and butter of the BJP”, only to
    provoke an acerbic response from Arun Jaitley, Leader of Opposition in the Rajya
    Sabha: “A government whose integrity has been painted black in the coal deals
    cannot be blackmailed. The staple diet of Congress ever since Bofors has been
    kickbacks and commissions

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Seriously, why do we need to have a boring debate in LS and RS when it is so much fun in front of obliging TV cameras and prime time coverage.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am not sure whether BJP complaints and tactics will get them any new votes in 2014.

    Everybody in the country knows the ineptitude and corruption within congress. A better strategy may be to articulate how wiil they be different, while exerting some pressure and holding Congress to its feet.

    A constant cry for resignation is just that – a constant cry, like the proverbial story of the child screaming wolf.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi ji, the strategy is working.

    Since it has managed to get SoniaG agitated, it means that the heat has finally reached the top. I don’t see much of a need to articulate how the party would be different. The action and performance of the NDA state govts. is there for all to see and compare. A formal programme of course would be announced nearer the election time.

    The stalemate in parliament has managed to keep the issue alive long enough for it to reach the common man through its 24X7 coverage on TV channels. Let this scam stick to the famous three 2G, CWG and Adarsh and we move on and wait for the next to be uncovered and en-cashed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    Yes, looks like this time their strategy is working. Sonia Gandhi is clearly rattled, twice she has lost her calm composure in few days.

    Anonymous Reply:

    “Foreign origin”, “weak PM”, also seemed to have got the brilliant strategy going.

    All the best.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Now no more weak PM. Now It is Khamosh PM.

    Anonymous Reply:

    When he hits, guys run for cover.

    Remember how Advani sat in chair tongue tied, when MMS hit him in the Parliament?

    After that Advani stopped calling him the Weakest/weaker/weak PM ?

    Actually BJP is lato ka bhoot….

    Anonymous Reply:

    Has the PM not admitted on more than one occasion that he did something due to coalition compulsion and recently inducted Shinde Sahab as the FM because of his loyalty to SoniaG – are these signs of a strong PM?

  • vijay !

    ========================================================================
    ~~~ some idiots shouted RSS IN MUMBAI MAR JAWAN JYOTI desecration~~
    —————————————————————————————————————–

    Here is the truth

    from NDTV

    =============

    Mumbai: One of the two alleged rioters, who had vandalised the iconic Amar Jawan memorial during the August 11 violence here, was today arrested, taking the total number of arrests in the case to 54, police said today.

    “Abdul Quadir Mohammed Younus Ansari (19), an unemployed youth, was picked up from Sitamarhi in Bihar yesterday. Ansari, who had damaged the Amar Jawan Jyoti memorial, was preparing to flee to Nepal by crossing the border when he was apprehended,” said Joint Police Commissioner (crime) Himanshu Roy.

    Another accused Nazir Noor Mohammed (35), who had sustained a bullet injury while clashing with policemen on the day of the violence, was nabbed after being discharged from the government-run J J hospital, police said.

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  • Anonymous

    A good British based charity assisting run away kids – Railway Children.
    Apparently doing a good job in India, keeping India’s children on track! Please connect with them and contribute what you can.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/british-charity-keeps-indias-young-on-track/2012/08/28/0c2d3c22-f12a-11e1-a612-3cfc842a6d89_story.html

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Read Amaresh Mishra in TOI. This BB, speaks lot of history but avoid illegal immigration and the root cause of problem in NE. another Sarkari journo/ writer.
    Again involve RSS and such people here. beyond comprehension.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ask Ashish about this gentleman Amaresh Mishra. He is Kumbh ke mele mein khoya hua brother of Engrich/Tajender. Don’t waste your time reading his articles.

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  • Anonymous

    Why men always twist their wedding ring ?
    They are trying to find the combination.

    Good morning friends.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    It is a psychological thing.
    If the wife turns him on her little finger clockwise, he turns the ring anti-clockwise. And vice versa.

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  • Anonymous

    Somebody has a problem with my reply to Ishwar’s query !
    The post is getting deleted even after 4-5 attempts !!!

    I know the Govt. departments are full of BJP sympathisers upto Deputy Directors level who tend to do everything to favour BJP.

    But do we really have a BJP sympathiser in the support department of HT ?
    How else can I explain my attempt to reply Ishwar being moderated again and again !!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In one of your earlier blogs, you had suggested that even Chidambaram is a crypto-BJP man. In fact, many in the congress believe this.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Where do you get this silly ideas ?

    please go to the washroom and wash your eyes properly. Still half-asleep !

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    At least, the second part of my post is true.

  • IamNOTpathakG

    4)
    ========

    You wrote :

    4 and 5. If the BJP ruled state CM’s reasons were not right, why did you accept them? There was no coalition-compulsion there.
    =======

    I expected a far better logic from you to counter my argument. This is on the border of being silly.

    [ Special Note for you : When you make a serious attempt to write, avoid these kind of cliches. It does not add value to your intelligence.]

    6. The screening committee was a better option in place of any competitive bidding process. This is nothing new or out of this world. As I have said before this was completely dominated by the BJP ruled state official because BJP unfortunately rules those states. So they have all the explanations to do.

    [ Special Note for you : I am sure you always knew the roles of the officials in this committee. But you chose to answer and differ without any basis. Avoid. In future I may ignore if you continue to take such positioning. Because it's not worth thr time and effort to reply for the heck of it.]

    7) It’s like saying ” Okay we stole…but you didn’t catch…so the problem is with you, not with us.

    [ Special Note for you : Asking pointed question is good. But you must know where to point the finger. ]

    8 ) If the Central Govt. could decide arbitrarily and single handedly, this country could have had GST and NIA full implementation long time back.

    This is the same opposition who doesn’t want want fully integrated National Security umbrella for their petty politics.

    [ Special Note for you : This is the fourth time you are taking similar alibi. That's why I said your form looked good, but the content was messy. If deliberate, then see the pattern and avoid. ]

    Everything else do not merit any answer really, particulatly when I am tied up with serious work.

    Your Rapid fire Question Round :

    a) Is this a scam?
    b) Has there been a loss?
    c) Did the BJP make money?
    d) Are you ready to have the allocation cancelled?

    a) No
    b) Partly, wherever the mines have been given away at throwaway prices.
    c) Gadkari personally benefitted from Sanchati’s case
    d) Cancel the allocation to the Private parties and put on auction

    ********************************************************************
    I am more than happy to see you actively participating in debates on this blog. As I had said before I would love you to lead the debates long after I and people of my age retire from this blog. So I truly happy for your effort.

    But I think you still try to take an easy route by depending heavily on the “form” rather than the “content”.

    Most probably you get away with your lazy managers in office with this approach. But this is a trap many fall for. Avoid. I would love to see you sharpen your attack with much stronger logic.

    *******************************************************************

    *** Sorry for replying late. Too much work load.

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  • IamNOTpathakG

    @ Ishwar

    Nice attempt. I liked your approach to attempt it with all seriousness.

    The form is nice ( Looks very diligent). The content is slightly messy.

    It also gives a me a preview of your general approach you might be adopting while dealing with situation in your professional life. You would have had a tough time if I were your boss.

    1)

    Read the summary of CAG Report. This is one page report summary. I am sure you read it, but chose not to highlight the points.

    Vijay is too lazy. Your other friends never had the inclination.

    **************************************

    The Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) released a Performance
    Audit of Allocation of Coal Blocks and Augmentation of Coal Production,
    on August 17, 2012. Some of the main findings and recommendations of
    the report are highlighted below:

    There were no criteria for allocating coal blocks for captive mining
    till 1993. The process of bringing in transparency and objectivity
    began in January 2004. However, the process has experienced delays and
    had yet to materialise as of February 2012.

    In the intervening period, 194 coal blocks with geological reserves
    of 44,440 million tonnes were allocated to private and government
    parties until March 31, 2011. The report finds that the benefit to
    private allottees has been estimated at Rs 1.86 lakh crore for Opencast
    mines. The report states that the government could have tapped some of
    this financial benefit by expediting the decision on competitive bidding
    for allocation of coal blocks.The rate of increase in production of coal by Coal India Limited (CIL) during the 11th
    Plan period remained below the target set by the Planning Commission.
    Capacity addition projects were delayed due to the lack of coordination
    of government agencies involved in statutory clearances and land
    acquisition. There were mismatches in excavation and transportation
    capacities of mines, and suboptimal use of Heavy Earth Moving Machinery.The CAG recommends that Ministry of Coal (MOC) should work out
    modalities to implement the procedure of allocation of coal blocks for
    captive mining through competitive bidding.The CAG recommends that the MOC should constitute an empowered group
    along the lines of Foreign Investment Promotion Board as a single
    window mechanism for granting clearances, with representatives from
    central nodal ministries and state governments.

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    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    @ All

    Please read my reply backward ( as posted). Read the 3rd post first and move up.

    Sorry for this.

    My posts are continuously being deleted after being flagged. Sorry for this extreme measure.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I 100% agree with you on one thing that you are not
    PathakG.

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    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    Haha…Couldn’t think of anything else.
    Just tried to hoodwink the system designer ( automated Blog system looking for a pattern matching ) with a bit of silly puzzle.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Is it silly puzzle or sleazy gazal?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Enjoy your sleaze till it lasts.

    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    Somebody flagging as abuse report. Hope it’s not you !!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    I never abuse anyone.

    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    Could you please post my reply under your id ?
    Never mind. Leave it. Somebody is deliberately flagging the content, not the ID.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I did not copy what you had posted. Send me an email on
    melody_enterprises@hotmail.com. I will do it.

    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    it’s ok. Don’t worry. I will post again sometime during the lunch break ( Did I give this man some idea about the timing ???? Hahahahahah).

    Anonymous Reply:

    Yes, I can see that your posts are being deleted. I am wondering whether HT has been taken over by some BJP supporter.

    [Reply]

    IamNOTpathakG Reply:

    A Trojan Horse !!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    you are right. HT must have got disgusted with Vinod Sharma’s approach to the Coalgate scam and his severe and vicious attack on CAG. It is a good move by HT. Now all the chaddiwalas all over the world will read HT.

    As for NOT-PATHAK ji’s lament about censoring, here I agree with him the censoring wasd not at all necessary because Pathakji has only re-hashed his earlier choornam and made a kashaayam out of the same stuff.

  • IamNOTpathakG

    @ All

    Please read my reply below backward ( as posted). Read the 3rd post first and move up.

    Sorry for this.

    My posts are continuously being deleted after being flagged. Sorry for this extreme measure.

    -pathakG

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  • Anonymous

    GOOD NEWS++++++++++++++++++++GOOD NEWS+++++++++++++
    _____———————————————____________________________-

    SCRAP COAL BLOCKS++++++++++++++SCRAP COAL BLOCKS

    CAG IS LIKELY TO SAY……………………………..Times of India Headline.

    I think the CAG will see to it that the PAC finds its recommendations on the cancellation of all “irregular” allotments eminently suitable in the present situation.
    It may also save the kursi for Manmohan Singh, at least for a few more months.

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  • Anonymous

    Former BJP minister Maya Kodnani, Bajrang Dal Leader Babu Bajrangi convicted in Gujarat riots.

    Will Teestas, Sarabais and most of the media still call Gujarat courts
    biased?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Justice is being delivered in Gujarat. Sadly, its not the same case elsewhere.

    [Reply]

  • Anonymous

    http://photos.mid-day.com/cartoons/cartoon-of-the-day/29082012-satish/

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I noticed this late – excellent stuff!!

    The “Mota-Maal” is a gem – catchy and effective.

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  • Anonymous

    PathakG,

    Thanks for taking the trouble to continue the discussion. I have made a note of your suggestions regarding diligence and selective reading. We can revisit the issues discussed some other time but for the moment, let’s restrict to the rapid-fire questions.

    As per you:

    a) There is no scam but Gadkari made money. If the allocation were fair, how did he manged to personally benefit? When did the govt. learn about it and what has it done so far to book him for this offence?

    b) Some private players got the mines cheap because you have agreed to a partial loss. Is Congress ready to cancel the allocation to private players and start afresh with competitive bidding?

    c) Who is responsible for the partial loss?

    For me as soon as you find those who made money out of this, book them, recover the loss and put the coal-blocks for auction, I am happy.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    The CVC had recieved a complaint regarding allotment of coal blocks , which after due examination was sent to the CBI under the provisions of the the Prevention of Corruption Act . The CBI after a preliminary Inquiry has registered a Regular case against some of the companies and officials concerned.
    Is it PathakG’s case that Gadkari and Sancheti are being investigated ? Or is that just his wish ? Or are the companies close to Congress bigwigs who are being investigated ? like the JINDALS who are using ASSOCHAM to fight their proxy war. Subodh Kant Sahay is another beneficiary. And some more names shall spill out as the Inquiry proceeds.
    It is not Ishwar who is trying to make out a partisan case but Shrimaan PathakG.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Pathakji is often given to flights of fancy, in which he mostly dreams about all BJP leaders being in jail.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A great cartoon.

  • Anonymous

    Digvijay demands quick execution of Ajmal Kasab.

    Strange coming from him. Was he not the same person who had claimed
    that 26/11 was RSS ki saazish and Hemant Karakre had called him just before
    he was killed by ‘RSS’.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    It wont happen mohan.

    2014 will come and the Congress will lose the elections. If Mulayam becomes the Pm as it may happen, he will never take the decision.

    If Congress executes Kasab, it will take care to announce life imprisonment for 10 HIndus on the same day.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I think he is demanding Kasab’s quick execution, because Digvinash believes that Kasab is a Brahmin. Remember he had a tilak and sacred thread on his wrist?

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  • Anonymous

    Nahin pata Gadkari ne paise banaye ya Sonia ne in koylo ki khano se
    Dukh hota, gussa aata hai jab sunta hoon aisi batein apne kano se
    Kab band karenge yeh chori chakari hamare raj neta
    kya poora Bharat khali ho gaya hai imandar aur sache insano se.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    main hoon naa!

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    PathakG sab jaante hain ….par such se door bhagte hain.
    Koyla se munh kaala karne walon se yaarana rakhte hain
    pehle 2g Ki gaatha likhtey they…par flop rahey
    ab Koyla ke bare mein likhtey hain ..koyla sa hi likhtey hain
    kyun aison ka saath detey hain jo sirf jeben bharna jaantey hain

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    Anonymous Reply:

    wah, wah, Praveen Saxenaji, bahut khoob!!!!!!!

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    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Hansu ya raun aap ki baat pe
    bina chutkula hansi aati hai aap ki soch pe;

    Mota maal khaakar Sushma ladh rahi thi reddys ke saath election mein,
    baat khuli toh haar dalti hai jaitley, anant ya sonia ke gale mein;

    Bade sudhre hue yeh BJP ke log,
    BJP mein rehke dete hain paisa congress ko lagake chhaunk;

    Saare BJP wale beek jaate hain chand paison ke liye,
    besaramon kaise naach rahe hain jaise daaru piye hue hain;

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  • Anonymous

    Kasab has been given death sentence.

    Rajiv Gandhi’s killers too were given death sentence.

    Lekin,,,………Lekin……………………

    Sonia Gandhi chahti hain ki unhe maaf kiya jae.

    Will she ask for mercy for Kasab too? Will Kasab live a hundred years to **** a snook at the whole of India? Kasab can be a very good vote bank politics.

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  • Anonymous

    Happy Onam to all!

    Malayalis celebrate Onam as a welcome ceremony for a mythological king, Mahabali, who ruled the region of present day Kerala during the “Vamana” incarnation of Lord Vishnu.
    Under Mahabali his citizenry was happy, nobody cheated, all were equal, . A Camelot before there was a Camelot..

    A giving king who would part with anything requested by a citizen/guest, he was banished to “pathala” by Vamana to protect the interests of the Devas. He was given one boon; and he wanted to visit his “prajas” once a year to observe their happiness and well being. The mythology is that Mahabali visits our households during the Onam days.

    Well, Camelot no more..Our rulers steal instead of giving. And, they do steal big!

    Prof Vaidyanathan’s analysis on cheating by bureaucrats, politicians..the impact of bribes ..bribery is the biggest scam.

    http://www.firstpost.com/economy/real-scam-we-pay-rs-400000-cr-in-bribe-taxes-a-year-434656.html

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,

    A VERY HAPPY ONAM TO YOU AND ALL MALAYALEES.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    A very happy Onam to you.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Writer is right in saying that in India bribe is paid from womb to tomb.

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  • Anonymous

    The congress has gone to town with its demand for Modi’s resignation because Maya Kodnani, a former minister in Modi’s government, has been convicted in the Naroda Patia case.

    They are hiding the fact that SHE WAS NOT A MINISTER IN MODI’S GOVERNMENT IN 2002!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    I could access the comments of PathakG which he said were being deleted . In those comments he had referred to certain statutes to contradict me on why the PM alone is responsible for the decisions taken by him. PathakG sirjee , could you please check again if those are Indian statutes. In your hurry I think you failed to check that . I had never heard of those statutes ever before. I Shall be grateful if you could enlighten me . Just to remind you ..the statutes you referred to were ” Public Sector Management Act 1994″ and “Public Service Act 1978″
    I wonder was that the reason why those Comments were deleted after they were posted ?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Would love to read a reply from PathakG

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I tried to look them up on Google – there is no such thing in relation to India. Would have to wait for clarification from PathakG.

    Until then, your statement holds true and seems logical.

    You had said: The liability of wrongful exercise or negligence in rightful exercise shall rest fully on that authority. In the course of discharge , he may consult or take opinions from others, but the duty and responsibility shall be his.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I will join you guys over the weekend. We will sort it out.
    Please do remind me later. Can’t spare time now.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Please give me your email address, daily I will send you a reminder.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,

    you are asking for the nigoodha rahasya.

  • Anonymous

    When I was young I thought that money was the most important thing in life;

    Only now, in my old age I know
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    that it is………………………………Oscar Wilde.

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  • Anonymous

    A word from Sonia Gandhi ensures uninterrupted power supply in Rae Bareli, Amethi.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/A-word-from-Sonia-Gandhi-ensures-uninterrupted-power-supply-in-Rae-Bareli-Amethi/articleshow/15935788.cms

    LUCKNOW: It’s not without reason that “Forbes” magazine recently ranked Congress president and UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi the sixth most powerful woman in the world. It needed only a word from her for Rae Bareli, her parliamentary constituency, to have uninterrupted power supply.

    Uttar Pradesh chief minister Akhilesh Yadav late on Tuesday issued orders to also ensure round-the-clock power supply to Amethi, the parliamentary constituency of Congress general secretary Rahul Gandhi.
    —————-

    Everybody should shift to Rai Bareli and Amethi.

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  • Anonymous

    The Edit page of today’s HT echoes my views:

    Let’s clear the air at once

    The government’s case is that it was stymied in Parliament when it tried to
    amend laws to ease commercial coal mining and was constrained by state
    governments, some ruled by opposition parties, and later by the advice of its
    legal department when it explored the option of reworking the administrative
    rules governing captive mines. Yet the accusation of arbitrariness refuses to go away when only a quarter of the allocated blocks are actually being mined today, producing less than half the originally projected coal. This weakens the contention that switching to auctions would have delayed the allocation process significantly.
    ——–

    It concludes:

    The government will be best advised to cancel all coal blocks allotted by committee and seek auctions. This will spare it the further ignominy of being ordered by courts to do so on the lines of air waves for mobile telephony

    More can be read here:
    http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/Editorials/Let-s-clear-the-air-at-once/Article1-920893.aspx

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The writer also suggests the all the allocated coal blocks should be cancelled. However, the last line of the article is dangerous
    ” Our lawmakers must come together on national resources rather than bicker and quarrel as they are doing now.”
    Is he trying to suggest that all politicians should get the share in the loot.?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    That seems to be the implicit message – not bad I must add!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr.Jekyll in HT and Mr.Hyde in this blog.

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  • Anonymous

    Shenoy Sahab,

    Earlier today you had posted something. You are almost right.
    There are talks that the allocation to private players is going to be cancelled. It’s not the CAG who has recommended but an Inter-Ministerial group. More on the link below:
    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/inter-ministerial-group-recommends-cancellation-of-licences-for-53-coal-blocks/1/215233.html

    I was wondering about its repercussions. In Bihar (now Jharkhand), people paid bribes to pass an exam or get a job. If the bribe-taker failed in getting the result, the bribe money had to be refunded. Even the ‘rishwat-khors’ were honest enough to refund.

    How does it work now? How much refund would be due after the cancellation of 2G licences and now coal-blocks?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Ishwar,

    you are absolutely right. Even thieves have their ‘iman’.

    Sonia Gandhi has to refund the bribe taken for the allotment of blocks. May be she will arrange for overseas funds through Swiss banks and paid overseas.

    I had quoted a possible action by CAG as per Times report.

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    TOI news,
    Conviction of Maya kondani, reduces chances of Modi as PM, Why??
    If 1984, massacre has not dimmed chances of Rajiv and so many illustrious of all hues, why single out Modi??
    Secualrist brigade and all those, again on overdrive???

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    HT has taken its revenge. HT is now being seen in a total new Avtar!!!.

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  • Anonymous

    Gentlemen:

    Assam is still burning while the Coalgate discussions (?) are going on. 8 more people got killed during the last three days. ..

    “Confessions of a Troubled Secularist” ..-Shiv Vishwanathan

    “If Muslims insist on speaking exclusively for Muslims and do not recognize Bodo suffering then theirs is an ethnic of narcissism”

    I know Owaisi did not even mention the Bodo plight! And called for a Jihad.

    http://www.asianage.com/columnists/confessions-troubled-secularist-053

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  • Anonymous

    In London a young sexy looking girl walks up to the bar and says in a sexy seductive voice, “May I please speak to your manager?” Barman , “Not right now, is there anything I can help you with?” She replies, “I don’t know if you are the man to talk to…its kind of personal…” Thinking he might get lucky, he said “I’m pretty sure I can handle your problem, miss.” She then looks at him with a smile, and puts two of her fingers in his mouth…and he begins sucking them, !” She said , “Can you give the manager a message for me?” The bartender nods…yes. “Tell him there’s no toilet paper in the ladies restroom.”

    Good morning friends.

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  • Anonymous

    Recently Manmohan Singh met Dhanush, the Tamil screen hero of Kolaveri Di fame.

    Here is the brief dialogue that took place between the two:

    MMS: Hi, I am Manmohan Singh, Prime Minister of India……..

    Dhanush: vanakkam Saar, I am S-I-L of, you know, Rajni Kanth.

    MMS: Rajni Kant? Oh, great. Tell me Dhanush, can Rajni solve one big problem for me?

    Dhanush: There isn’t any problem Rajni Saar cannot solve. Farmaan Pannungo Saar.

    MMS: (comes close and whispers) Can he finish off Sushmaji and Jaitley and Venkaiah and.. and …… and..Advani ….

    Dhanush: Even Advani Saar?

    MMS: OK, OK, leave Advani, OK,

    Dhanush: The list is long, but Rajni is great. Just wait, Saar, till 2014 elections.

    MMS: Vanakkam.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Yeterday Ved Marwah former Commissioner of Delhi Police was on CNN-IBN answering some questions of Karan Thapar on 1984 Riots . Ved Marwah disclosed the following on camera 1. He was broght in as Commissioner immediately after the Riots. 2. He was asked to investigate the failure of the Delhi Police in stopping those riots. and given 3 months to submit Report. He had collected a lot of records , phone/ wireless intercepts etc and had arrived at conclusions clearly pointing at coonivance of the Delhi Polce with the Rioters. 3. Just as he was about to submit the Final Report along with documentary evidence , he was asked by “someone important” to close that assignment . When asked who that authority was .. he refused to name. By looking the “adminstrative set-up” such official instruction could have come only from the Home Secretary. 4. Susequently all records and his Report were destroyed . Rajiv Gandhi was the PM of India at that time. 5. There werer certain other instances when the Delhi Police was prevented from proceeding against Bhagat and other Congress leaders.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen Saxenaji,

    Ved Marwah has only said what the people of India knew for the last 28 years that the Delhi police as also the CRPF and also the army were on hands off orders during the three days from day Indira was murdered and the Sikhs were being butchered.

    It is entirely in line with the general quality of bureaucrats that Ved Marwah kept quiet all these years and after squeezing every ounce of benefits and favours from the congress government, he thought it OK to open his mouth about the suppression of the most vital documents that could nail not only the congress bosses, but Rajiv Gandhi himself.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Shenoy Saab , Mohan bhai
    There would be fewer instances of civil servants standing up to political pressure for committing illegal acts or not performing their duty. There are far more of a spineless lot .. wanting to swim along. There a many more of them joining or even showing the way to loot and plunder. What can a political master do … on his own … without a bureaucrat preparing the file for him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    These are (late but) very serious charges made by Mr. Marwah. Is there an NGO or court that would take cognizance of his statement and book the guilty after having established the truth?

    Or, he is lying and Late Mr. Rajiv Gandhi was a saint and also a deserved recipient of Bharat Ratna?

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  • Anonymous

    A retired cop was in the planning of Azad Maidan riots. The riot was a planned one; not a spontaneous one as Raza has been saying

    http://www.mid-day.com/news/2012/aug/270812-mumbai-Did-retired-cop-invite-rioters-to-Azad-Maidan.htm

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  • Anonymous

    Muslim scientist, MBA, journalist, etc etc arrested in connection with terrorism…
    Poor Muslims???

    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/nation/south/bengaluru-police-bust-terror-%E2%80%98sleeper-cell%E2%80%99-11-held-505

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahadevan,

    From the day one there was no doubt that this was a very well planned riot. It is high time Congress stop playing vote bank policies and should seriously take some concrete steps to catch the perpetrators to send the strong message.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I hope the case against them is strong enough and it eventually leads to their prosecution.

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  • Anonymous

    A man was complaining to a friend, “I had it all – money, a magnificent house, a fast car, the love of a beautiful woman… then, poof! It was all gone!” “What happened?” asked the friend.
    ” I married thar woman’

    Good morning friends

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  • Anonymous

    Coalgate: Double gain for power producers?

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Coalgate-Double-gain-for-power-producers/articleshow/16024614.cms

    NEW DELHI: Is the government extending double benefit to some power producers by forcing Coal India Ltd (CIL) to sign fuel supply agreements (FSAs) with promoters who had already been allotted coal blocks?

    This is the question IIM-Ahmedabad director Samir Baruah, as an independent director on the CIL board, has raised ahead of a crucial management meeting on Friday to approve the model FSA.

    It would be myopic for (CIL) board to believe that coalgate has nothing to do with signing of FSAs. FSAs are clearly designed to bestow favours to chosen projects and producers of power. If they also appear to be those who received largesse from the government in terms of allotment of coal blocks then we would also be guilty of favours to the same set of projects/owners,” Baruah wrote in an e-mail to CIL company secretary M Viswanathan on August 28.

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  • Anonymous

    Urban India votes for Narendra Modi as PM

    In a survey conducted in 28 cities across the country by a Hindi news channel and Nielsen, Modi has emerged as the favourite ahead of even Rahul Gandhi and Bihar CM Nitish Kumar. While 42% of respondents wanted Modi as the next PM, only 29% were for Rahul Gandhi. Nitish Kumar got 12% in his favour.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Urban-India-votes-for-Narendra-Modi-as-PM/articleshow/16027606.cms

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The problem with this survey is that most of the people who took part in this never vote

    .

    never vote.

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  • Anonymous

    Since nothing is happening on this blog, let me share with you all what I read on a Pakistani website. A very long article.

    Why Muslims and Chinese hate Pakistan

    Pakistanis evoke highly negative emotions worldwide, including in Muslim majority countries, says a US survey. Not just the elites but the common Pakistani too is culpable in the country’s spectacular failure.
    It has never been easy being a Pakistani. Pick a terrorist act committed anywhere in the world and chances are it has Pakistani fingerprints all over it. In many places, the word ‘Pakistani’ is a four-letter word.
    So it must be a nasty kick in the guts for the Pakistanis to learn that their only allies, the Chinese, as well as the majority populations of several Muslim countries, including Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan and Lebanon, see them as a bunch of baddies.
    A survey of 21 countries released on June 27, 2012 by the United States-based Pew Research Center suggests that Pakistan is not only a universally disliked country but the Pakistanis themselves have learnt nothing from their history, continuing to support the very actors who are responsible for their country’s negative image.
    It is a measure of Pakistan’s penchant for exporting terrorists, counterfeit currency and drugs that India has constructed a 2043 km long steel fence across its border with its wayward western neighbour. The floodlit fence is so bright it can be seen from space as a bright orange line snaking from the Arabian Sea to Kashmir.
    Now Iran is building a 700-km steel and concrete security fence along its border with Pakistan “to prevent border crossing by terrorists and drug traffickers”. When complete it will make Pakistan the most fenced-in country in the world.
    You get the picture. Pakistan is not exactly a popular tourist destination.
    In four of the five predominantly Muslim nations covered by the American survey, over half give Pakistan negative ratings. Jordan (57 percent), Lebanon (56 percent), Tunisia (54 percent) and Egypt (53 percent) had an unfavourable opinion of Pakistan. The only exception is Turkey, where attitudes are divided (43 percent negative and 37 percent favourable).
    In East Asia, 52 percent of Chinese see Pakistan unfavourably, as do
    59 percent in Japan and 59 percent in India. The Chinese response is not surprising as Pakistan-trained Uighur Muslims have launched terror strikes in China. Japan, a nation historically distrustful of foreigners, decided not to take chances and deported more than 15,000 Pakistanis after 9/11.
    Runaway military most loved
    Every country has an army but the Pakistan Army has a country. The Pakistani military runs a $20 billion commercial empire that includes interests such as milk processing plants, bakeries, banks, cinemas, heavy industry and insurance. Plus a good chunk of the billions of dollars in American aid goes straight into the pockets of the generals.
    This corrupt empire is walled off from civilians. Defence analyst Ayesha Siddiqa, author of Military Inc: Inside Pakistan’s Military Economy, says there is little accountability and widespread siphoning of funds. The Pakistani military operates a virtual apartheid where an increasingly poor civilian population faces discrimination at virtually every level of national life – from jobs to pensions.
    Also, the Pakistani military has lost four wars against India. After each of these wars Pakistan lost territory and the generals their credibility. But bizarre as it sounds, this military is the most respected institution in the country. As many as 77 percent say the military has a good influence on the country, nearly the same percentage (79 percent) as last year. The Pakistanis are either very tolerant or very brainwashed.
    Sure, the military’s ratings have slipped from a high of 86 percent in 2009, but all it takes is one border flare-up for the ratings to travel north. The generals always oblige.
    The media comes next with a 68 percent rating, followed by religious leaders at 66 percent.
    President Asif Ali Zardari receives the most negative reviews. Only 12 percent believe he has a good influence, while 84 percent dislike him. Attitudes about Zardari are particularly negative in Punjab (96 percent bad influence) and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (95 percent).
    Why is he so unpopular? Well, Zardari has done more than any previous leader to normalise trade and diplomatic relations with India. His mending fences approach lacks the customary anti-India sting.
    Attitude towards militancy
    Militant groups such as Al Qaeda and the Taliban have limited appeal among Pakistanis. Relatively few Pakistanis express a positive view of either Al Qaeda (13 percent) or the Taliban (13 percent). Attitudes toward groups affiliated with the Taliban fare no better in the eyes of the Pakistani public. Tehrik-i-Taliban, an umbrella organization of Taliban-linked groups in Pakistan, and the Afghan Taliban are viewed positively by only 17 percent and 14 percent of Pakistanis, respectively. The secretive Haqqani network, which is also associated with the Taliban movement, is viewed favourably by only 5 percent of Pakistanis.
    The attitudes toward Lashkar-e-Taiba are somewhat more positive – 22 percent say they have a favourable opinion of this militant group. This is hardly surprising because the Lashkar mostly targets India.
    How Pakistanis see India
    When asked which is the greatest threat – India, the Taliban, or Al Qaeda – a clear majority named India. Roughly a quarter cited the Taliban and only 4 percent say Al-Qaeda. This is despite the fact that Al Qaeda blew up the Karachi naval base last year.
    Only 22 percent of Pakistanis have a favourable view of India, although this is actually a slight improvement from 14 percent last year. Supporters of the two major opposition parties – former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s Pakistan Muslim League (PML-N) and cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan’s Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
    (PTI) are much more likely to name India as the biggest danger (71 percent and 61 percent, respectively) than those that affiliate with Zardari’s governing Pakistan Peoples’ Party (PPP), where this view of India is held by
    46 percent.
    Pakistanis in Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa regions are more likely to dislike India. For example, 84 percent in Punjab and 90 percent in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa see India as a serious threat, while 64 percent in Sindh and 61 percent in Baluchistan say the same.
    This should alert liberal Indians who rush to the border to hold “candlelight vigils” for peace. Most Pakistanis are united by their hatred and fear of India – it is only a matter of degree; some hate more, others less.
    Biting the hand that feeds
    India does not get any aid from the United States and yet among all 21 nations Pew surveyed, Indians seemed most favourably disposed towards it. Only 12 percent said they had an unfavourable opinion of the United States.
    On the other hand in Pakistan, which is heavily dependent on American cash and weapons, 80 percent had a negative opinion of America, with 74 percent regarding it as an enemy country. Around four-in-ten (38 percent) said US economic aid is having a mostly negative impact on Pakistan, while just 12 percent believed it is mostly positive.
    Curiously, 40 percent said American military aid is having a mostly negative effect, while only 8 percent said it is largely positive. Pakistan’s military stockpile is largely American supplied. Do the Pakistanis believe their North Korean knockoffs will do a better job?
    Be Pakistani, act Indian
    One of the ironies of Pakistani life in the West is that they pose as Indians, the very people they hate so much. According to Asghar Choudhri, the chairman of Brooklyn’s Pakistani American Merchant Association, a lot of Pakistanis can’t get jobs after 9/11, and after the botched Times Square bombing, it’s become worse. “They are now pretending they are Indian so they can get a job,” he told a US wire service.
    That is because Indians are among the highest educated and best paid ethnic groups, besides being highly integrated immigrants. Pakistanis, on the other hand, have been accused of honour killings, cousin marriages, child sex rackets, and terrorist activities in the very lands that gave them shelter.
    From Ramzi Yousef, who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993 (eight years before Osama Bin Laden) and is now serving a 240-year prison sentence to Mir Aimal Kansi, who shot dead two CIA agents and was later executed by lethal injection, to Faisal Shahzad, the Times Square “Idiot Bomber”, there is a long list of Pakistanis who have left a trail of terror.
    Terror on course
    The Indian mask that many Pakistanis wear is to get around Western suspicions. Back home, it’s business as usual. Two incidents amply demonstrate that Pakistanis have learnt nothing about the dangers of flirting with terror. One was the widespread outrage across the country over Bin Laden’s killing by American commandos. The other was the unholy fracas over Kansi’s execution.
    The day after a Virginia, United States, court handed the CIA shooter the death sentence, four Americans were shot dead on the streets of Pakistan. After his execution in 2002, Kansi’s funeral was attended by the entire civilian administration in his hometown Quetta, the local Pakistani Corps Commander, and the then Pakistani ambassador to the United States.
    Thousands of mourners turned out as Quetta city shuttered down. Kansi’s coffin, draped in black cloth with verses from the Koran embroidered on it in gold, was carried on the shoulders of young men some 10 miles from the airport to his family’s home in Quetta.
    In Islamabad, the capital city, lawyers and university students poured out on the streets in support of their newest ‘martyr’.
    Veteran’s view
    Veteran Indian writer Khushwant Singh is hardly the sort of person you would call anti-Pakistani. In fact, he’s been accused of “trenchant secularism” because he often backs the Muslim view against the Hindu-Sikh narrative. For decades, Singh’s house has been a watering hole for many of his Pakistani friends, who come to vent their frustrations. His mostly tabloid rants aren’t taken too seriously but he has a finger on the Pakistani pulse.
    In November 2008, 10 Pakistani terrorists raided the Indian city of Mumbai, killing 166 people – mostly innocent civilians. How did the common Pakistani react when confronted with the fact that it was an operation planned and executed by their countrymen?
    On the first anniversary of the attack here’s what Singh wrote in his column in the daily newspaper Hindustan Times: “To begin with, there was blank denial of any Pakistani being involved in the crime. This was tinged with apprehension that India may retaliate by carrying out similar operations in Pakistan and trigger off yet another mutually destructive war. When that fear proved baseless, it was replaced by a sense of achievement, a feeling of pride that their countrymen could plan and execute such a daring exploit with such finesse.Even the fact that among the innocent victims over 40 were Muslims was brushed aside. The sense of false pride in performing a foul deed still persists.”
    This is a snapshot of Pakistani society where the arrow of time is travelling backwards, taking it into a spiral of medieval madness. Where the death of a terrorist merely means he will be instantly replaced by a hundred clones.
    Is it any wonder that **** is a four-letter word?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have read it it in bits and pieces. This one is a gem.

    “Every country has an army but the Pakistan Army has a country”

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Imagine it has a general like Ravi and a major Gen like Engrich. All working under, smiling cobra Zia

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan, what is the link to this article?

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    A comparison which none can deny … but some would like to turn away from

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    Anonymous Reply:

    And the PM under whom the rating of country has gone down is an economist who has been credited with liberalisation
    and revival of the economy of our country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    THAT BITSELF IS PROOF THAT THE CREDIT FOR LIBERALISATION HAS BEEN FALSELY THRUST UPON MMS.

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  • Anonymous

    http://costofwar.com/

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Some figures are too big to make any sense!!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Cannot claim the authenticity of the figures or the website. On a lazy Friday – a holiday here- nothing much to do and while going through different websites I came across this one which I found interesting.

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  • Anonymous

    George Devasahayam’s analysis on Assam, disintegration, government policies promoting separation etc. As you know, Devasahayam was a bureaucrat (IAS) and an army man.

    Must read

    http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.com/2012/08/how-left-liberal-secular-media-sees.html

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahadevan,

    A very disturbing article and a great cartoon at the end of the article.
    The cartoon itself tells us the whole story. I doubt that any serious action be taken.

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  • Dr Mishra

    mahadevan’s link is diturbing- hope the investigation is fair and speedy- http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/nation/south/bengaluru-police-bust-terror-%E2%80%98sleeper-cell%E2%80%99-11-held-505

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The situation seems to be grave as now educated people have started taking path of terrorism. If not stopped I shudder to think of the future.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    It goes to show that in Bangalore, even terrorists are highly educated.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Wasnt the “Glasgow bomber” an aeronautical engineer from Bangalore? A son of a doctor couple there?

  • pankaj#1

    Mishraji;
    I have yet to discover a country, who sell itself for the benefit of so few. These so few, enact all the drama of democracy, secularism, blah, blah and blah. and sell themselves as cheap, yes, cheap prostitutes, not even classy.
    Saw a photograph of Sonia, extending her arm, asking Congress MPs to counter attack, BJP. Reminded me, of word” Chhoo”. Nothing more came out of this gesture. Still heard.. Rahul should join ministry. Mystery is that these Gandhis, who live on the Royalty of nehrus books, are declared one of the richest persons on earth???? Chori/ dacoity and seenajori????

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  • Anonymous

    A guy dials his home phone from work. A strange woman answers. 
    The guy says, “Who is this?” 
    “This is the maid.”, answered the woman. 
    “We don’t have a maid!” 
    “I was just hired this morning by the lady of the house.” 
    “Well, this is her husband. Is she there?” 
    “. she’s upstairs in the bedroom with someone who I just figured was her husband.” 
    The guy was fuming. He said to the maid, “Listen, would you like to make 1 Lakh rupees
    “What do I have to do?” 
    “I want you to get my gun from my desk in the attic and shoot that ***** and the jerk she is with.” 
    The maid put down the phone. The guy heard footsteps, followed by two gunshots. 
    The maid came back to the phone. “What should I do with the bodies?” 
    “Throw them in the swimming pool!” 

    “What?! There’s no pool here?” 

    Long pause… “Uh …. is this 5355165?

    Good morning friends

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good joke.
    There may not have been a swimming pool, but the maid tried to skim the moolah from the “owner” of the house.

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  • Anonymous

    Scam’s looming, coal ministry had warned UPA-1

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Scams-looming-coal-ministry-had-warned-UPA-1/articleshow/16090550.cms

    NEW DELHI: The coal ministry had warned the UPA-1 government of the impending coalgate right at the outset of its tenure, pointing to the intense clamour for coal blocks and strongly emphasizing that their allocation would mean “windfall gains to the person who is allotted these captive mines”.
    ———-

    The document is also significant in that it rebuts government’s arguments that auctioning coal blocks would have meant higher power tariff. Based on a detailed analysis, the note concluded that inviting competitive bids would be the best option, while they would not affect the price of power and other end products.

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  • Anonymous

    GOM draft report recommends cancelling of coal licenses of several companies for non – performance.

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  • Anonymous

    Behind the Curtains.

    For anyone trying to understand Ramdev, what he has done off-screen
    speaks volumes.

    http://www.caravanmagazine.in/Story.aspx?StoryId=1546

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan-

    Mehta’s case is sour grapes.

    Conducting the 13th day ceremony of Congress is obviously mentioned as s a joke, and even if Ramdev meant it, it is far different from wishing a person to be dead. A large segment of the population will like Congress to be dead.

    Regarding the question of how he will rule, whether he will ban tooth paste etc – will be any body’s guess, and it depends on his party’s strength in the parliament.

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  • Anonymous

    A thought provoking article on the Assam issue by the man who knows it well =- General Sinha, ex governor of Assam.

    Owaisi is planning the same thing for Hyderabad by bringing in Mayanmar Muslims!

    “Demographic Aggression” – Gen Sinha.

    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/columnists/sk-sinha/demographic-aggression

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  • Anonymous

    Fru,k the so called parliamentary courtesy and the usual BS,,

    Let them fight it out..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sonia Gandhi is scheduled for a flight out to the US of A for a routine check-up tomorrow. I hope she has given instructions to the next in command to concede some ground for the BJP to re-think its position of disrupting the parliament.

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  • Anonymous

    Mr. Sharma,

    I tend to agree with you when you say…
    “…the logjam continues in the absence of the government offering and the BJP agreeing to a middle ground”

    Has the government offered any middle ground yet? BJP would surely get back to debating the issue if the arbitrary allocation of coal-blocks to private companies is cancelled and an investigation is ordered to look into the issue. We can let the PM continue for some more time. The ball is in govt’s court.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Agree

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Today’s news shows that Sonia has phoned Sushma and promised revocation fo the coalblocks. Two questions

    a) I hope it wont set back progress on power plants.

    b) WOuld this have happened without the big logjam in the Parliament

    c) I hope the Commission Khors ad chors in the government return back the kickbacks

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Aaya hua maal kabhi loataya nahin jaata.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Imagiane Subodh Kant Sahai… iving money to fellow COngressis… ab toh vaapis lena padega…

    Pathak G should advise him on how to get it back…

  • Anonymous

    Sushma Swaraj refuses Sonia Gandhi’s offer to open discussion.
    So stalemate continues.

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  • Anonymous

    Coal scandal: Prime Minister’s Office wants action against defaulters?

    http://www.samachar.com/Now-PMs-Office-pushing-against-coal-defaulters-mjbsKIabgji.html

    New Delhi: With the government being accused of a defective coal policy
    that may have cost the country thousands of crores, a range of companies who
    were given coal blocks for steel or power plants are being investigated. A
    report by the state auditor has faulted how 142 coal fields were allotted,
    alleging a lack of transparency that gifted windfall benefits to private
    firms.
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    Is this the effect of BJP stalling parliament?

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  • mukesh

    Sharma ji seva karte rahiye ek din meva milegi.
    Your article will open the eyes wide of every Indian!!
    Keep it up!!
    Delicate use of the words like saffron party is awesome.
    Does this color appear in the national flag SIR!
    Do we have have genuine auditors with the office of CAG who are technically competent or may be not!! That is why rulers do not like it. Write a note next time regarding abolishing the office of CAG. (Use less Office)
    Parliament rukwa di. Kitne important decision lene the desh ke liye!
    When half literates have started commenting about the findings/reports of CAG what else is left!! All fault of CAG !! Kyo aisi report banate ho jo pasand na aye “unko”
    Aur uske baare me aapne enlighten nahi kiya ” Hazaro …. meri khamoshi…
    aabroo… rakh lee etc etc”
    duty of providing auditors should go to private parties like Reliance, Tatas and media people.
    Long live media. They are more competent and pleasing!! Bye the way SIR how many of them studied or know professional accounting!! Kindly enlighten us in future blogs baaki seva karte rahiye meva milege!!

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  • pankaj#1

    VinodG;
    Remember, that Modi has been discussed, vilified and all the extra constitutional forums used to malign him and BJP. Now why, BJP should behave in an examplary fashion?? All the scams, vote bank politics, even at the expense of national security and worst kind of double standards have become present GOI’s hall mark. Why media is not providing level field for all political parties, kuchh percentage ka mamala hai kya???

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  • Sumit Bose

    Mr Sharma, can you confirm that the parliament debates on 2G, CWG or Indian money stashed abroad have borne any results after so months of debating?

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  • Prem Aggarwal

    Mr. Vinod Verma,

    Your comments do not seem to go by the present situation. The Congress has made its habit not to accept its mistakes. Even in JPC and PAC, the Congress does not allow other opposition members like BJP to say anything against them. what is the use of JPC and PAC? Have you seen any time the Congress accepting its failures and the Tag oif Corruption. They always guve explanations. Who are the to criticise the CAG? If they criticize, it goes wqell with them and if Opposition criticizes, it does not suit them. Why then not to destabilize the Parliament,. No where in any Forum may it be the Parliament, JPC or PAC, did the Congress fair well. They aree dependent on the support of undependable MULAYAM SINGH YADAV. This Copuntry has awaken niow and it is not the biirth right of only Gandhi Nehru family to rule this country. This Congress Party has looted this country and all Corrupt Politiciuans are in the Congress. It has become a Bread and Butter of Congress toi ruule the country by proxy and take benefits. This is not going to be in future. You should also open yoyur eyes. These Congressmen do not allow the JPC and PAC to function and even the parliament. Do you see how the Congress Minister Mr. rajiv Shukla asked the Presiding Officer toi dissolve the Parliament? Then how can you say the BJP is not allowing Parliament to Function? It is the Coingfress that is avoiding to take blame.

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  • Atul8

    If I remember well, this is Congress party’s nemesis catching up with them. Wasnt it Sanjay Gandhi who set the stage for disruptions in Parliament some decades ago?
    Would love to see debate return to parliament, but maybe we are hoping against hope.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Blaming any member of Gandhi family is considered as blasphemy in our country. They all are above suspicion.

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  • Anonymous

    My jokes are being deleted, not sure whether I should continue posting. Let me try this one.

    Husband and wife had a fight – a common occurrence in every family – .
    Husband shouted ‘ You are not even good in bed ‘ and stormed out of the house. After few hours when he calmed down he called home, after many rings his wife picked up the phone
    ‘ what took you so long to answer the phone’ he asked. ‘ I was in the bed’ she replied. ‘ in bed? At this time of the day’ she said ‘ “your friend dropped by so I thought of taking second opinion of what you told me earlier”

    Good morning friends.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    good morning!

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  • vijay !

    Hi everyone

    Am on travel… to Mohan’s favourite countries but no harm in posting from a hotel lobby.

    a) Fact of the matter. even small countries in South East Asia beat us in infrastructure. The mother of all– China beats us hollow.

    b) As already predicted by me, Mulayam Singh has a good chance of becoming the PM. Afzal Guru and Kasab can now welcome a 100 year life well lead, 22% inflation would be back and the cabinet will have goondas of all shades including kidnappers soon. FDI would soon retreat and kidnappers in hinterland may well hold entrepreneurs to ransom. Congress style crony capitalism is back in full measure.

    c) Even In Thailand and HongKong resentment against Muslims is growing. The problem is basically because Pakistani travelers and citizens end up breaking laws here and inciting local Muslims to claim their Muslim identity above their national identity. Thailand has separate prayer rooms for Muslims in most hotels nd even at the airport ( when most travellers here only pray for one thing !).etc etc.

    The locals commented that we are Buddhists, hindus and Christians… why no seperate rooms for us?

    I guess it is an extension of the pampering of Muslim minorities world over which causes resentment. Just becasue a grand mufti in Saudia pronounces something, the Indian minoity commission and government will forget human rights and just be extra deferential.

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    Will write again from Shanghai… if this site is accesible.

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  • vijay !

    ———————————————————————————————–
    ~~~ CONGRESS DOWN TO 127 SEATS~~ how to reduce them further? ~~
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    @ Vinod Shamra and Pathak G

    The NDTV poll; says that the Congress is down to 127 seats in 2014 while the BJP is up to 143?

    Can both you big brothers advice us on how we make the COngress down to 99 seats?

    Remember like the rest of the world we need to throw this dynastic succession into the dustbin forever

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Vijay Kumar,

    NDTV is a past master at this kind of fake opinion polls, snap surveys, exit polls and what not. They also are experts, with their fossilised psephology, at “seat adjustments”, so that the congress is not unduly alarmed. If he had given the true picture of the dynasty getting 2 digit seats, I bet SOnia Gandhi would have cancelled her foreign trip and summoned the doctors from US to come here and examine her.

    You can see how they have manipulated the seats if you observe the state wise figures.

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    NDTV has long since been known as RANDITV, please!

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  • vijay !

    @Gopi_Thomas:disqus

    Your favourite female lover of wine and whisky is going to get power soon…

    Guess who is going to win in Rajasthan?

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  • Anonymous

    Sonia Gandhi’s meeting Sushma Swaraj shows that she is one hell of a confused lady, who lacks the traditional Indian cunning and consequently only goes by what her domestic servants tell her to do.

    Only two days ago, she ill-advised her MPs to “stand erect” and fight the BJP. Now she herself bends and meets a lesser functionary of the opposition!

    As for Vinodji’s lament, the BJP has a strong point that there is no point in a two day or three day debate, because things will remain as they are after the debate.

    Last year, the congress bitterly opposed the formation of the JPC and forced the entire opposition to block the parliament. Subsequently the government yielded and the JPC was formed. Now the same congress has destroyed the JPC by paralysing its working. The same holds for the PAC, in which the congress had shown unshakeable faith vis-a-vis the JPC.

    Therefore, Pathakji, you are skating on thin ice.

    Sambhal ke chaliye, kahin paani mein gir na jayen!

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  • Anonymous

    Don’t cancel coal blocks, levy high royalties

    http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Swaminomics/entry/don-t-cancel-coal-blocks-levy-high-royalties

    Opposition parties want Manmohan Singh’s head for supposed corruption in 57 coal blocks that were allocated, not auctioned. The government is under pressure to cancel the allocations. That would be politically, legally and economically wrong.

    Politically, it will look like a confession of crookedness. Neither the CAG nor anybody else has produced any evidence of kickbacks. That makes it very different from the 2G case.

    The CAG estimated that 2G spectrum auctions might have fetched Rs 1.86 lakh crore. But that was a criticism of policy, not evidence of kickbacks. Former telecom minister Raja was indicted not for failure to auction spectrum but because he perverted the first-come first-served policy into a first-served then-come policy, favouring friends.
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  • Anonymous

    1 inch-Are you kidding?

    2 inch-I cant even hold it properly

    3 inch-Never been so unsatisfied in my life

    4 inch-I’ve had bigger

    5 inch-Good, but not enough

    6 inch-About right

    7 inch-Cant complain

    8 inch- perfect

    9 inch-A bit much

    10 inch-It’s hurting my insides

    11 inch-I cant take it anymore

    12 inch-I’m absolutely destroyed

    -
    -

    -

    The above are the results of people’s view on varied Subway Sandwiches sizes… But I like the way you think.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Is it vegetarian?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Depends, it could both veg or non-veg.

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  • Anonymous

    Who needs Parliament?

    “How about abolishing Parliament? Loss is nil and look at the savings!”

    TJS George points to where it all started – Sanjay Gandhi/Indira Gandhi duo.

    All parties, including BJP, made Parlaiment dysfunctional

    http://newindianexpress.com/opinion/article599239.ece

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi, Mohan,

    yes, Indira and Sanjay had proved that parliament is only a means to an end-being in power. Sonia Gandhi is following their fine example.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Only mistake was listening to Sonia G. Other mistakes would
    have been avoided if he had not listened to her and if he had
    acted honestly as the PM of the country.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    BVS

    Congress just happened (?) to be in power. All are doing everything to protect their power base.

    Did you read about this new project where they are building flats for Rajyasabha MPs – four bedroom flat for 25 crores each or so..
    Why in the fru…k does govt want to do this?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A good article. This is what one of the reader has written.

    How about abolishing CAG against whom tirades are unleashed by cong?How about abolishing Supreme court whose strictures on PMO have been ignored,whose instructions on Mullaperiyar are treated with contempt by Kerala.The judgements on Sha Banoo case and promotion for SC ST are sought to be nullified?We need only one institution CONGRESS

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  • Anonymous

    Manmohan Singh has recommended the allocation of coal blocks to Sahay’s brother, which is now a fact.

    Therefore, morally, the PM becomes a party to the corruption and hence he must resign.

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  • Anonymous

    Vijay Kumar,

    Pathakji had promised us that he would take part in the discussions during the weekend. Now the week has come and gone, but the pen of Pathakji has fallen silent.

    As for your predictions, remarkably, they have come true.

    Now please forecast that the UPAII will be a footnote in history soon, very soon.

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  • Guest

    Shailendra- birth anniversary
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    Enjoy my dear friends- Raj Kapoor called him kaviraj. What a man-
    1958: “Yeh Mera Deewanapan Hai” (Yahudi)
    1959: “Sab Kuch Seekha Hamne” (Anari)
    1968: “Main Gaoon Tum So Jao” (Brahmchari)
    “Awara Hoon” – Awaara
    “Ramaiya Vastavaiya” – Shri 420″Mera Joota Hai Japani” – Shri 420″Aaj Phir Jeene Ki” – Guide”Dost Dost Na Raha” – Sangam”Kisi Ki Muskurahaton Pe” – Anarihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT9kqNvaUoQ

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    Ravi Reply:

    हम सिंघासन पर जा बैठें जब जब करें इरादे
    सूरत है जानी पहचानी, दुनिया वालों को हैरानी
    सर पे लाल टोपी रूसी, फिर भी दिल है हिन्दुस्तानी

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    Anonymous Reply:

    जहाँ होटों पे सच्चाई नहीं रहती है
    जहाँ दिल में सफाई नहीं रहती है
    तुम उस देश का वासी हो
    तुम उस देश का वासी हो
    जिस देश में जिहाद बहता है.

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    Dr Mishra Reply:

    ouch Shenoy saab, that was very cruel, ;)

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    vijay ! Reply:

    were guidwee songs also by shailendra?

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  • Dr Mishra

    Shailendra- Raj Kapoor called him kaviraj- his birth anniversary was Aug 30- died tragically, in debt after the commercial failure of the stupendous TEESRI KASAM.
    Oh India, you are cruel.
    Look at the man’s output-
    1958: “Yeh Mera Deewanapan Hai” (Yahudi)
    1959: “Sab Kuch Seekha Hamne” (Anari)
    “Awara Hoon” – Awaara
    “Ramaiya Vastavaiya” – Shri 420″Mera Joota Hai Japani” – Shri 420″Aaj Phir Jeene Ki” – Guide”Har Dil Jo Pyar Karega” – Sangam”Kisi Ki Muskurahaton Pe” -
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT9kqNvaUoQ

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    Sumit Bose Reply:

    @Dr Mishra, Dont know if this is the right place for this, but you have not highlighted Sailendra’s crowning achievements and they have been in songs as “Hoton peh sachhai rahti hai, jahan dil mein safai rahti hai” from jis Desh mein ganga behta hai, “Oh mere sanam , do jism magar ek jaan hai ham” from Sangam, “ek bewafa se pyaar kiya” from Awara, the list is virtually endless.
    It would be interesting to recall the first meeting of Shailendra and Raj Kapoor, Shailendra as a college student was at a Kavi Sammellan narrated a poem written about the creating of Pakistan and RaJ Kapoor ( tehn helping his father in the Prithvi Theatres) was impressed enough to get to him and offer him the opportunity to write ongs for Aag, his first film that he was struggling to arrange funds for, the idealist Shailendra turned to the then “non-entity” Raj Kapoor and tyold him that his “kala” is not “bikau”. But being Raj Kapoor, he yet persisted and gave his address to Shailendra and requested him that if ever he changed his mind then he could come to Bombay and contact him.
    A few years later, afetr getting married adn having to realise thathe had to feed a family, he reached Bombay and requested Raj Kapoor, who immediately offered him to write the song that became the biggest hit song of the 40s, “barsaat mein, ham se mile tum sajan”.
    The financial mess that he came into was a direct consequence of his unrestricted drinking and that let him depend entirely on the financial skulldruggery of his Production Manager,durin the making of Teesri Kasam, who did not miss the opportunity to siphon away the money for his own gain.

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    Dr Mishra Reply:

    @9ef714b59a425d43486104f3b8e7f2ab:disqus – thanks for all the nuggets about Shailendra. The lyricist is always the unsung hero in Hindi films- pun intended. Please enjoy Chalat musafir ley liyo rey pinjarey waali munia- WHAT EARTHY DIALOGUES- mera bhaarat mahaan- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNTDLN05L_o

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  • Ramesh Kumar

    BJP is absolutely right in NOT joining debate on coal scam.Debate for what ,with whom?congress over the yrs have learned art of scuttling debates,committees etc. What happened to PAC report on 2G SPECTRUM?Why mmsingh with SONIA’s permission cannot appear before PAC?CHACO IS SCUTTLING PROGRESS OF THAT COMMITTEE.
    I DONOTKNOW WHEN YOUR CONSCIENCE WILL AWAKE AND SOME TRUTH WILL COMEOUT OF YOUR PEN?
    THIS INCOMPETENT BARE BABU MUST GO?

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  • Anonymous

    With a huge pay-out of Rs.20,400 crores, Sahara may soon find itself ‘be-sahara’.

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  • Anonymous

    “Close Call -The political class has let down India” – an excellent article by Dr Gautam Sen, professor of Political Economy at Oxford University.

    He says all the three classes of political leadership/politicians – the state/local, the influentials (of all parties) at the centre, and the coterie of senior ministers/PM have failed India; he sees disastrous consequences including breakaways

    http://www.newsinsight.net/archivedebates/nat2.asp?recno=2341

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Very good article. Agree 100% with the writer.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    As the leader leaves the country to secure the “Mota Maal” and , and the nominee feels safe with the offer of his “Khamoshi” to the country , the stone pelters are left behind to counter the charges. The chief while leaving the battlefield left with instructions …give it back to them with all your might … so BJP is spreading anarchy…..BJP does not believe in Parliamentary democracy … . The Trojan Horses not to be left behind …. come with their own piece of sane advice for the BJP … come back to Parliament … that is where you should debate and discuss.
    Earlier these ladies and gentlemen laboured hard … and gave the same advice to Team Anna and to Baba Ramdev. Parliament is supreme…it is the elected body ..so have respect for it.
    These ladies and gentlemen know that Parliament is less about debates and more about Numbers .. and there they will trample all dissenters with their numbers. But this time the Opposition and the Activists will not make that mistake ..and the Rulers look a little crest-fallen .
    So what will they do ?. Naroda Patiya will not help as elections in Gujarat are not far -off and any hype and gloating on that will do more harm than good. …some announcement on the ” Game Changer” … that does not enthuse ….or his more promising sister ….. may be . but that will finish off the “Game- changer’s ” game .
    And in the meanwhile the Sher of Gujarat is getting ready . to demolish all . This time they have to really think hard .. maybe they can … or may be not ….let us see.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Defection of Keshubhai Patel and these verdicts are all planned in such
    a manner to somehow derail Modi juggernaut. Will these have any effect
    on the outcome of Gujarat election? We can only wait and watch but meanwhile we will witness lot of anti Modi news before December from our sold out media.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Praveen Saxenaji, Mohan, gopi and Vijay Kumar,

    The game changer refuses to pick up the gauntlet, refuses to show spunk, refuses to tell us what his game is.

    And his sister? Does she look ‘promising’ or is she a sister with promising looks?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, you know who will rule if the sister is the front person?

    MAy be that is what all these charlatans are scheming. Steal, steal, steal with Robberji as the head stealer

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  • vijay !

    @ Shenoy

    The key to 2014 would really be UP. Unfrotunatly the NDA nis not there yet…

    They should appoint me advisor… and Ill show electiosn are won..

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    Anonymous Reply:

    UP, as you correctly said, holds all the cards for the NDA.

    But, look at the brighter side. The rest of india is veering to the anti-congress side, particularly AP, Maharashtra, TN.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    UP can only be won by getting all the possible vote banks together and then having a smart young charismatic face. Uma Bharati is scoofed at by most UPiites as she is from MP. She does not appeal to the youngsters. I think the BJP needs to get in a Kalyan SIngh by promising him a central role, a A uma Bharati , a Rajnath Singh even some prominent busnessmen and cricketers and then also launching an all out attack from today.

    Remember Akhilesh SIngh’s young looks ripped apart Baby G and Mayawati.

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  • Anonymous

    long ago we rolled on the floor laughing (ROFL) seeing Golmaal
    Now we are crying loudly seeing the coalmaal
    Sushma says Sonia Gandhi got motamaal
    Coal ne kar diya congress ka maalamaal.

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  • Anonymous

    Sachin Tendulkar was for two decades, a hero
    But after joining congress, he has become a zero

    He says I will keep playing as long as I enjoy the game
    Does the nation too feel the same?

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Sachin does not have to prove anything, I don’t know why he is still continuing to play. Is it the love for the game, fame or money. I hope it is for game only.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    sachin is being stupid. As Indira was when she foisted here sons. As Baby G and SOnia g are being stupid. Affection and love for a name turns to hatred inc ase you foist yourself on the public.

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  • Dr Mishra

    @ Shenoy wonderful coalmaal / golmaal/ mota maal poetry
    @Sumit Bose – thanks for all the nuggets about Shailendra. The lyricist is always the unsung hero in Hindi films- pun intended. Please enjoy Chalat musafir ley liyo rey pinjarey waali munia- WHAT EARTHY DIALOGUES- mera bhaarat mahaan-
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eNTDLN05L_o

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    Dr Mishra Reply:

    and then one day Raju- Dev Babu- comes back to his mohalla, having made his corrupt millions but having lost everything else, this scene blows me away- for all of you this joie de vivre- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRMLeHHAXlU

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Dr.Mishra,

    you are right. This song is an evergreen one, great lyrics, fantastic music and dance and matchless enacting of the song.

    The introduction of Mukesh in the last part of the song was and is thrilling.

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  • Anonymous

    There was no scam in allocating coal mines according to our PM and as per
    Chidambaram there was no loss as no coal was fined. I am surprised why
    CBI is filed FIR against five companies who were allotted mines.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    even Pathak G gloatd over that. No loss becasue no coal was mined…

    BUT TERI TOH… HAI RABBA… IN CASE COAL WAS MINED THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN HUGE LOSSES… THESE GUYS ARE SAYING BY DEFUALT!

    my dear so the whole allocation was wrong…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    CBI ke liye ek ishaara hi kaafi hai.

    Those who declare that there is zero loss, like kapil Sibal and Chidambaram make their party cry and their government become laughing stock of the people.

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  • vijay !

    ————————————————————————————————-
    ~~~ why the bJP AND NDA need to thank Mani Aiyar !! ~~~~
    ————————————————————————————————-

    As I sit in Shanghai, one or two people have asked me that is there so much corrutpion in India that people have made USD 400 billion dollars. that is almost the GDP of most countries

    Well I have a difficult task explaining that half of it is projected losses….

    And basically it was ll started by Vindo Sharma’s pal Man i AIyar…. !

    WHo tossed a figure of 70,000 crores lost….

    And each subsequent scandal needed to be bigger for the press and media!!

    So the BJP should now give at least 100 crores to the mani Silencer Aiyar… in case it comes to power….

    And Vinod Sharma should curse Mani Aiyar… in case he does not get the Rajya Sabha Seat if the Congress loses power due to Mani AIyar….

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  • Anonymous

    Govt clears SC/ST quota proposal for promotion in state jobs

    http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_govt-clears-sc-st-quota-proposal-for-promotion-in-state-jobs_1736479

    Quota in schools, quota in colleges, quota in government jobs and now
    quota for promotions. Next what quota in marriages and producing children ?

    Only after 2 SC/ST persons get married than only a non SC/ST will be allowed to get married . After two children are born to people belonging SC/ST category than others will be allowed to procreate.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    very bad scheme

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    vijay ! Reply:

    we are a nation of minoroities. Make everyone a minority is the prescription the politicians follow.

    The caste sytem got demolished outside india quite easily in Hindus– say nepal, UK, Singapore,West Indies, …. but in India… the current cure is only proving to be very very non productive.

    HOw can anyone say that a person born today carries 5000 years of caste discrimination. It is just 52 years of failed policy he carries the burden of

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Viju

    It is time for the govt to look at all its citizens as Indians and not putting them in dfferent brackets.

    Govts role should be to ensure equality of opportunity – build/support education, infrastructure,

    You are right -once you start grouping people, there is no end to that

  • Anonymous

    Darda had called Modi a ‘political saint’ and ‘tiger of Gujarat’ in July.

    Now, the Congress has found a means to get even with him – CBI names him as an accused in the coal scam.

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/coal-scandal-congress-mp-vijay-darda-named-as-accused-by-cbi-263011

    Looks like he didn’t learn his lesson from the Jagan Reddy episode.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    In yesterday’s interview Barkha Dutt conducted with Kapil Sibal, she asked him whether it was worrying for the party that Mulayam Singh too has asked the government to cancel…….

    And he replied: Leav Mulayam Singh to us, we know how to handle him.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Kapil Sibal will only say anything if has the sanction from high command. Credit should go to Ms. Sonia Gandhi that from an
    unknown destination also she is able to control her chamchas.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Anyone praising Modi will have to face the wrath of Congress high
    command.

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  • Anonymous

    Earlier Congress had offered cheap house is Gujarat. Now they have offered
    free laptops if they win the elections. In India most of the people must be very happy during elections because of freebies offered by almost all the political parties. Shayad unke baap ka maal hai jo free mein baant rahe hai.

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  • Anonymous

    Bechare Salman Khurshid sahab has confessed:

    Govt losing ‘communication battle’: Salman Khurshid
    http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_govt-losing-communication-battle-salman-khurshid_1736735

    He says: “What has gone wrong is that coal has been given to someone without charging anything for it. We will charge that person a much higher amount. Are you willing, therefore, to pay much more for the steel you use for your home or the electricity that you consume or for that matter for the cement that you use your home?” Khurshid said.

    If that’s the reason why the private companies have been allotted coal-blocks arbitrarily, why stop at that. Give away the rail, bus, IT and customsdepartment and what not – it would all be in common man’s interest as they won’t have to pay for it.

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  • vijay !

    Darda will give dard to Congress…

    Badi harami hai yeh Congress…

    Sab saala chor , nikhatu pocketmaar….

    Pathak G and Vinod G…. why has the CBI registered cases against Congress MP and his brother is there was purity in the coal block allotment?

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  • vijay !

    Pathak G

    Is the Congress working full time to make Advani ji;s dream come true?

    Shri LK Advani had predicted that th COngress will be reduced to two digits. Sir, dont you think the Congress is woring overhard to make Advniji’s dream come true?

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    Bangaru laxman should be given bail. A news item in Indian Express.
    Ha, A Dalit, ( UPA, beat its breast for Dalits) albeit, BJP person, is being hounded, and has to plead for bail, for a fictitious deal, where he was entrapped by Tarun Tejpal, contrary to law,. Put this incidence vis a vis, G2, CWG, Coalgate and what not. Once, opposition comes to power, they must hunt all these vermins, like Tejpals and whole pantheon. Nothing less.Otherwise, we Indians at heart will understand that NDA and congress are same and a bloody revolution is, what is required for India.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Tejpal is silent over these 176666666666666 + 187000000000000
    + 70000000000000 crores.

    So is Pthak G and Vinod G

    But they willl kep talking about the 50 thousand ruppe forcefully given to Laxman to divert attention from Congress loot, pocketmaari and chori.

    Pathak G wil pretend that he has not read this. :)

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    2014 -
    Hawa Chali Namo Namo
    Bolo Bhai Namo Namo
    Bolo Behen Namo Namo
    Pyaar se Bolo NamoNamo
    Hans Ke Bolo Namo Namo
    Bharat Boley Namo Namo

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Saena Sahab;
    Ab, aapka -KAVI- haule haule bahar aa raha hai.
    Good one. In India, full of turmoil and corruption, Gujrat stands out as an island of order and prosperity. Corruption? I am not aware of, if Media hounds have no knowledge. It is obvious that this man-NaMo- will lead India to greater prosperity and peace. Haath Kangan ko Aarsi kya, Padhe….

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Maafi chahoonga, Spelling ki galati ke liye.

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  • vijay !

    Sahai says did not lobby for coal bloacks…
    Darda says no lobbying….

    Baby G is not lobbying for PM’s seat…

    Badi ajeeb duniya hai…

    Sab kuch bina lobbying hota hai…

    Kya AISA BHI HOTA HAI???????? :) :)

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  • Anonymous

    Koyle ke dhande mein sab ka munh kaala

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    That was superb Shenoy Saab. What Pankajji wrote is also a strange paradox. A person going to jail for a fictitous deal and clearly a case of entrapment.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The CBI should file a writ in the supreme court for getting Bangaru Laxman released. They should also put Tarun Tejpal in his place.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A superb cartoon.

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    vijay ! Reply:

    Shenoy sahab Kamaal ka cartoon hai!

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  • vijay !

    seems that the Congressis on this blog have gone chup chup and CHUPPPPPP !!

    Kuch na kaho
    Kya kehna hai…

    Samay ka yeh pal…
    Thamm sa gaya hai….

    Aur is pal mein…
    Congress doob gayi hai !!

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  • vijay !

    On a rainy day as I sit at the airport in CHina on way further north, m

    e heart is in India.
    Here is a election song fro the Congress. Vinodji I request that you put it forward to Digviansh G to adopt it for the elections 2014

    Ghotale par ghotala
    Koyla, 2 G se bhi Kaala!

    Ghotala par ghotala
    2g, CWG ki hai Khaala

    Ghotale par ghotala…
    Congress ne sab ko maar daala!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Fantastic!

    Congress ka ghotala
    CBI ka jhamela
    dono ka achcha hai mela
    ho lalaa, holalaa, ho,ho, lalala

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  • Anonymous

    duniya bhar mein Koyle ki halchal machi hai
    Lekin Baby G kahin bhi nahin hai

    Media koyle ke aag mein bhasm hao rahi hai
    Lekin VinodjG kahin bhi nahin hai

    Blog mein hahakar macha hai
    Lekin PathakG kahin bhi nahin hai

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  • Anonymous

    Manmohan Singh has become Funmohan Singh!!!!!!!!

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  • pankaj#1

    Mohan;
    At the end of article, there is poll for 3 options. more than 84% have affirmed that, yes, Indians are thin skinned. I say, they are thin skinned in front of foreigners( as an irritant to themselves that why others are not buying into their superiority, hardwork and all those pretensions) While they are quite thick skinned in front of Indians, Malai khaa kar, moochhon par haat pher kar, communal, communal, communal, mantra ka jaap karte hai.n

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The most shocking part of this is that instead introspecting,
    government of India is asking for an apology from Washing Post
    for publishing this article. Ridiculous reaction I would say.

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  • Anonymous

    Mohan
    You are right. The whole government apparatus is frozen; they just cannot plan anything; living from one crisis to another, without solving any of the crisis.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What I suspect the reason for this is that no one in government has been delegated any power to act. It seems
    all the decisions have to come to Ms. Sonia Gandhi and she
    takes her own good time to react, hence government looks
    clueless in all such matters.

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  • Anonymous

    Notice on a Temple wall :

    Do not leave your wife alone in crowded areas, if she gets lost, you may
    mistakenly think that your prayers have been answered.

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  • Anonymous

    In honour of teachers – Today is Teachers day – I will only drink
    Teachers whiskey today.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Good decision.

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article3855352.ece?fb_action_ids=10151049199068741&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%2210151049199068741%22%3A281515355283437%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210151049199068741%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D

    A very good article by Era Sezhiyan. It is purely incidental that today is Dr.Radhakrishnan’s birthday and it is worth repeating here his prophetic words:” “If I have one advice to give and if I am presumptuous enough to give any advice to the officers of the audit and accounts, it is this: ‘Do not shrink from the truth for fear of offending men in high places’.”

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    Anonymous Reply:

    A great article. The author has ended the article with a brilliant paragraph.

    When Hitler came to power in Germany, he proscribed all political parties excepting the Nazi Party; then he amended the law to end all forms of accountability through audit of finance. It is to be hoped that Manmohan Singh and his ministers are not trying to adopt this method to avoid struggling with the cumbersome parliamentary system of a functioning democracy.

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  • Anonymous
  • pankaj#1

    Top Police officials’ meet will focus on IM.
    This IM has evolved from SIMI. I remember time, when Mulayam and company had given clean chit to this outfit and had embraced Safdar nagori in public. Congress was also treating these traitors with kidgloves. Digvijay had gone to Azamgarh to empathize with them?? So with these recent developments, has politicians got some change of heart and mind regarding SIMI/ IM or still that Votebank policy will prevail??
    Anytime, any IM member is caught, you can read e mails, jyadati, police excess, blah, blah.

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  • pankaj#1

    Friends;
    A letter from TOI in response to Modi’s article on teachers.
    From 75% enrollment to 100% and 21% drop out to 2 % in last 10 years (1 to 5 th class in Govt. school)is another feather in your cap. over all your achievements in all fields during last 11 years is unparallel,Av. growth 10%,1% unemployment,24/7 electricity,11% agriculture growth (Av. is 3%),least law & order problem,Min man days loss,Every industrialist and FDI is in line to bussiness in Gujrat,and others which require space make Gujrat the best state in India.The opposition will try every dirty trick to defame you as you are rising and they are falling.Mal nutrition,2002,Amit shah,Maya etc all are fabricated to tranish your image,which most people do not believe.I remind readers if Modi had not shooted mostly hindus( RAGE IN THEM FOR BURNING OF 59 KAR SEVAKS),the riot of 2002 would have spread to other part of Gujrat and thousands more would have died in comparison to 1984 5000 sikhs killed without firing a single bullet ,still negligible prosecution.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    No CM has ever been hounded by media and government at centre as Modi. He should be given credit that inspite of all this he has reined calm and is performing his duty to the best of his abilities. One more term and Gujarat state will be envy of the all other states of India. I will repeat again what I had said few months back that Modi should claim rolyaty from the reporters who are living off just by criticizing Modi.

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  • pankaj#1

    Dear Citizen;
    I am not sure about these two wrongs.
    Nevertheless, disruption of parliament is another situation. I believe, this disruption is for the first time, even after humongous scams, but coalgate appear to be mother of all scams. If BJP thinks that it can take maximum advantage of situation, by disrupting parliament, so be it. Do you think, congress would have not adopted same strategy? sadly you are mistaken here. Is everybody playing by rules?? No Sir. 2G, Adarsh Society, CWG and many other scams were made redundant by referring them to committees, where, by a cobbled majority of votes( Purchased votes) government is continuing. Admitted so much by PM as compulsion of coalation politics. Why public should suffer for the benefit of congress’ desire to be a ruling party and be sole arbitrator of doling favors, mostly to itself.

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  • Anonymous

    US media is very slow. What we knew since many years, they found out now and have reported.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I have edited the joke above.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    Wa-Po article is fairly shallow in its content and criticism about MMS.
    We know the issues – but they are not the ones that Wa-Po makes them out to be.
    As an example – the article talks about lowered economic Growth. Scratch a little deeper and you will realise the co-relation between global macro-economic situation and investments. Not much of which is MMS making. Plus there is this issue of role the economic growth plays (or more aptly, doesn’t play) in alleviation of rural poverty.
    Same with FDI in retail. Americans are betraying their impatience and expecting MMS to do what was done during the Nuclear deal. Do we want to repeat that ?
    Our polity , in general, and UPA as a part of it has tonnes of issues . Much of them are left out by the Wa-Po article.
    In comparison, Paul Krugman’s articles and blog at NYT offers much better insight and depth compared to the Wa-Po article.
    Tom-tomming the Wa-Po article metaphorically rhymes a lot with “Tinke Kaa Sahara lekar behna” .

    On a different Note, did we notice Mr. Modi’s troubles have acquired a far serious tone ?

    More later. Stay well.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    If you associate depth in the opinions of US papers with praising the non-existent success story of Manmohan Singh and his master, Sonia Gandhi, I can understand your utter disappointment.

    You have come down on the US media like a ton of bricks.You know very well it is not only the US, but many other countries too who are flummoxed by the total inactivity of the erstwhile economist. Here is a sample:
    “lame duck” – The Economist
    “a Tragic figure” – Washington Post
    “The underachiever” – Time Magazine
    “India’s saviour or Sonia’s poodle?” – The Independent

    I expected better from you than this gem of ulta-logic: Economic growth doesn’t play any role in the poverty alleviation of the rural population!
    You have also voiced your opposition to FDI in retail trade, bringing your thinking in line with the Mamtas, Yechuris, Brindas and….and …..
    Absence from the blog for long periods sems to have dulled your thinking faculties.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,
    You said :
    “If you associate depth in the opinions of US papers with praising the non-existent success story of Manmohan Singh and his master, Sonia Gandhi, I can understand your utter disappointment.”
    Disappointment ? Actually it was that of dismissal about the Wa-Po story. Now, were you not being a tad too tone deaf in reading my post ?
    You said :
    “You have come down on the US media like a ton of bricks.You know very well it is not only the US, but many other countries too who are flummoxed by the total inactivity of the erstwhile economist. Here is a sample: “lame duck” – The Economist
    “a Tragic figure” – Washington Post
    “The underachiever” – Time Magazine
    “India’s saviour or Sonia’s poodle?” – The Independent”
    I am curious which part of my following statement did you not understand ?
    “Wa-Po article is fairly shallow in its content and criticism about MMS.We know the issues – but they are not the ones that Wa-Po makes them out to be. ”
    Try not to deflect or obfuscate when replying.
    “You have also voiced your opposition to FDI in retail trade, bringing your thinking in line with the Mamtas, Yechuris, Brindas and….and …..”
    Did I ? Did you even read what I wrote ? Next time read first CAREFULLY before blurting out irrelevant .

    “As for Modi, didn’t you notice Modi has simply brushed off the Naroda verdict. Even Barkha Dutt accepted the fact that Modi cannot be bothered about these things.”
    Doesn’t mean the problems are going away anytime soon.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahsh,

    You have only focused on the slowdown of the economy
    and FDI and have avoided mentioning the huge corruption this government is involved in. The writer
    starts his article with this paragraph –
    “Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has been described as “a dithering, ineffectual bureaucrat presiding over a deeply corrupt government” by a leading US daily.”

    ManMohan Singh who is supposed to be carrying an image of a clean, non corrupt PM has allowed scams to
    happen under his nose and did not try to do anything to
    stop those and the reason he give is ‘ compulsion of coalition’.

    Regarding Modi, I had said on this blog few months back that we will keep on hearing more anti Modi
    new before the forth coming elections in Gujarat. This
    is only a start, there is going to deluge of such news and most of us will be watching the fun from the sidelines.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan ,
    The article doesn’t end at first paragraph.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Well, you focused on later part of the article and I perhaps stopped
    after reading first paragraph. :)

    Journalists do exaggerate and write many things to fill up the pages but that does not mean that our PM should not be blamed for some the points which have been raised in the article, mainly about corruption taking place on his watch.

    And would love to read your comments on our government’s
    approach of demanding an apology from Washing Post.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    My point is not about infallibility of PM. It is about the wrong blames being assigned. Had we seen a few more deals with Boeings , Monsantos and Walmarts – those same folks would’ve been singing different tunes.
    Again – not arguing PM’s infallibility, just pointing out the shallowness of criticism.
    As for apology thing – Government has shot itself in the foot. It has ended extending undue credence to the article in whole process. Plus there is this history of being particularly intolerant of criticism. Sometimes , terribly so.

    Anonymous Reply:

    As I said earlier
    exaggerating and sometimes biased reporting is the habit of most of the journalists.
    The person whom we both ‘love’ – Modi – is the prime example
    of biased and exaggerated reporting by selected media who
    have never stopped blaming him for almost all the problems
    of Gujarat.

    Anonymous Reply:

    I liked the proverb of Tinke ka sahara. Don’t you think that
    this government is using Tinke ka sahara to stay in power
    by taking support from people like Mulayam, Mayawati and
    Mamta Di.?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Not much of which is MMS’s making—–

    In 1992, even though economic liberalisation was begun by Narasimha Rao and he installed MMS in the FM gaddi precisely because he would bend whichever way PVN asked him to bend, still our media geva all the credit to MMS, because PVN was not liked by Sonia Gandhi.

    Now for the last eight years MMS is the PM and he has brought the country to a sorry pass. And still you say ‘not much of which is MMS making’?

    Aap ki wafadaari ka jawab nahin, MaheshG!

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,
    “In 1992, even though economic liberalisation was begun by Narasimha Rao and he installed MMS in the FM gaddi precisely because he would bend whichever way PVN asked him to bend, still our media geva all the credit to MMS, because PVN was not liked by Sonia Gandhi.”
    Two points here.
    First – What has this got to do with the topic under discussion ?
    Second – MMS was *already* credited long before Sonia Gandhi could gain strong foothold in Congress.

    “Now for the last eight years MMS is the PM and he has brought the country to a sorry pass. And still you say ‘not much of which is MMS making’?”
    Shenoy – just so you don’t miss what was under discussion here.
    “Wa-Po article is fairly shallow in its content and criticism about MMS.We know the issues – but they are not the ones that Wa-Po makes them out to be. ”
    Surely you understand English Language well enough both in Syntax and Semantics to not have missed out the difference. So, why the urge to deliberately obfuscate and deflect ?
    Waakai – Shenoy Saahib – aapki Nazr-Andaazi waali harkat taarif-e-qaabil hai.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    I think in your hazy way of thinking, you forget the central issue of our discussion: Manmohan Singh is a tragic figure, a lame duck prime minister (!), an under-achiever and Sonia’s pet poodle.

    I understand you have severe comprehension problems, but the rest of us here on the blog have very focussed, MMS centric discussions. They may infuriate you, but don’t lose heart, may be Baby G would bring enough cheer to befuddled minds like yours.

    That is if he gets a chance.

    Till then happy dreams, Mahesh.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Shenoy,
    Never mind. Enjoy wallowing in your obfuscations. I refuse to stoop to your level.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan,
    Wa-Po article is fairly shallow in its content and criticism about MMS.
    We know the issues – but they are not the ones that Wa-Po makes them out to be.
    As an example – the article talks about lowered economic Growth. Scratch a little deeper and you will realise the co-relation between global macro-economic situation and investments. Not much of which is MMS making. Plus there is this issue of role the economic growth plays (or more aptly, doesn’t play) in alleviation of rural poverty.
    Same with FDI in retail. Americans are betraying their impatience and expecting MMS to do what was done during the Nuclear deal. Do we want to repeat that ?
    Our polity , in general, and UPA as a part of it has tonnes of issues . Much of them are left out by the Wa-Po article.
    In comparison, Paul Krugman’s articles and blog at NYT offers much better insight and depth compared to the Wa-Po article.
    Tom-tomming the Wa-Po article metaphorically rhymes a lot with “Tinke Kaa Sahara lekar behna” .

    On a different Note, did we notice Mr. Modi’s troubles have acquired a far serious tone ?

    More later. Stay well.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Shenoy Saab, Mohan , Pankajji
    How can the insolence of Washington Post be tolerated ?. When the PM expects that the country that should remain “Khamosh” on his “Khamoshi” , then how can a foreign newspaper write on his failure to discharge his duties.
    He said … “there is no question of my resignation” .. why should there be ? Is he accountable to the country ?… no ..but to the woman who appointed him ? I recall he has said in the past that he shall make way for Rahul Gandhi if he comes. So he can consider quitting… only if that situation arises…..none other.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This Khamosh, khamoshi and silent has become so famous that
    people have started saying ‘ I have kept my phone on Manmohan mode ‘ when they keep their phones on silent mode.

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  • Anonymous

    I hope Supreme court does not have double standards as punishing
    people involved in riots and these kind of criminal activities sends the
    right message across that in India people do get justice.

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  • pankaj#1

    Friends;
    My reproducing a letter from TOI has been deleted. It had mentioned achievements of Modi government. Anyway, censor here is very Zalim, does not like Modi at all. It can Tom-Tom others achievements but Modi?/ Na baba Na.

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  • http://twitter.com/Farrukhabadi Praveen Saxena

    Whereas the reactions of the Congress Party to the Washington Post story ranged from dismissive to critical , the PM and his Office took it very seriously and immediately reacted to it.
    It goes to the credit of the US Newspaper that it drew a reaction and the PM broke his “Khamoshi “. That is the difference between Indian Media and the foreign Media.
    For the PM of India , the Indian Media … after all Indians read it, is of no consequence , however the Washington Post read primarily by Americans cannot be ignored.
    That is the PM of India ….for India.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Saxena Sahab;
    That is precisely what I wrote the otherday. It is underbelly of a turtel in front of foreigners and show its back to Indians.

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    Praveen Saxena Reply:

    Yes Pankajji , I rolled back the cursor and saw your comment…sad but true.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Many Indians still carry inferiority complex.

    [Reply]

    Anonymous Reply:

    I-love-white-skinned-people syndrome.

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  • ramji

    Sikhs in Gujarat’s Kutch face fear of displacement

    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-09-05/ahmedabad/33615011_1_gujarat-government-gujarat-high-court-gujarat-s-kutch

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    Anonymous Reply:

    I am leaving for my weekly rummy session but I promise tonight I will reply to this article. I am from Kutch and I know what the issue is.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    hamen aap ki jawab ka intezaar rahega.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Doesnt look like any thing aimed at Sikhs.

    Restriction on the conversion of agricultural land to commercial one is a good policy.

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  • Anonymous

    This problem at Kutch. The place, Lakhpat which is mentioned in the article is about 100 KM from where I live. A nice small place not very far from border of Pakistan, there is small Gurdwara where I had eaten langar few times.

    Gujarat government has put a freeze on land holding of farmers because of the huge scam/fraud going on there since very long time. Gujaratis, Kutchis and Sindhis are the main community who have been affected by this freeze. Sikhs affected are very few in number. In brief this is how this works. :
    People there bribe Government officials to become farmers. Than agriculture land is bought at the price of peanuts. After few years again babus are bribed to convert that land into Non agriculture -NA- and is sold at huge profit. This is going on since many years and I know this because I know few people personally who are involved in ths fraud. Some of them are very close to me. About five years ago government woke from the slumber and put a freeze on these lands.
    15-20 years old files are being reopened and are being scrutinized. I know some people who are ready to pay even crores to clear their name. It seems some people of vested interested are giving communal color to this issue to put pressure on Gujarat government to put a lid on this as many prominent people from Kutch are involved in this fraud.

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    pankaj#1 Reply:

    Mohan;
    Obviously, Ramji had other motives to provide this link. Even the article does not suggest any communal bias. Strange are the ways of psuedos…

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    Anonymous Reply:

    What put me off was the heading of the article.

    “Sikhs in Gujarat’s Kutch face fear of displacement”

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  • pankaj#1

    All;
    CBI may question CMs of states…
    E.LLO, Now Corruption is being khiskao towards all opposition governments??
    Sher aur bakri, ki kahani yaad dila di.

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  • Anonymous

    Vinodji aisa nahin karenge yah mera vishwas hai.

    Kyonki, despite being a congress supporter and also deeply worried at the way people are making fun of the party and the family, he has deep interest in Hindi poetry and always sympathises with budding poets.

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  • Anonymous

    Vinodji aisa nahin karenge yah mera vishwas hai.

    Kyonki, despite being a congress supporter and also deeply worried at the way people are making fun of the party and the family, he has deep interest in Hindi poetry and always sympathises with budding poets.

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  • Anonymous

    According to intelligence bureau, Dawood Ibrahim was behind Azad maidan violence at Mumbai. Great job by our IB, case solved, now we can slep peacefully as no one from India was involved and we all know that Dawood can never be caught. Case closed satisfactorily.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    This shows that the congress government doesn’t want to touch the perpetrators of the Azad Maidan riots and pasting it on Dawood is the easiest way to escape responsibility.

    Remember, Prithviraj Chawan had, on the first day itself said that this is the work of a foreign hand.

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  • Anonymous

    An epic tale of the other

    http://gulfnews.com/arts-entertainment/books/an-epic-tale-of-the-other-1.1067388

    ‘The Ramayana’ told from Ravan’s point of view, treated here as a fallen hero rather than as the villain
    —–

    I am sure Ravi will love this book.

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    AshokChauhan Reply:

    Ravanayan is an age-old story. People from south must be familiar. Surprised somebody discovered it now.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Ashok.

    Surely, Ramayana chronicles just one battle of the period of
    “spread of the Aryan civilisation through the central-southern parts of the subcontinent as these areas progressively came under Hinduism.”

    However, that is looking at Ramayana as a Historical Document.

    Devotees read it and interpret it differently, particularly if the devotees have been told to do so, together with supression by force of all other versions of the epic. The problem starts when a discussion takes place between a devotee and a historian, then no common ground exists upon which a sane discussion can take place, it soon degenerates into personal abuse, etc.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    17 minutes since your post. Nobody has come forward yet to abuse you. Where is Shenoy ?

    Ravi Reply:

    :)

    Anonymous Reply:

    I see the Congressis gel so naturally with J…!!

    Anonymous Reply:

    There you go buddy. How come others haven’t joined you in the chorus ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Have you got some indigestion problem? You are unable to digest your meals unless followed up with some choicest abuse? What was the point you were trying to make in your first post on this thread?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Blog was getting boring since last few days, maybe to make it ‘interesting’ Mahesh was trying to incite we ‘Sanghis’.

    Anonymous Reply:

    :-) . Clearly somebody took the bait.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Fake Ravi’s walrus mustache must have been twitching violently.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You mean he dangled you the bait on his Walrus Moustaches and you fell for it ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Fake Ravi doesn’t need any bait to come and pollute this blog. What I am curious about is how you suddenly started throwing your poison darts all around on this blog

    Anonymous Reply:

    Poison Darts ?

    Anonymous Reply:

    Of course, it is no fun without one of these people around.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You are right there is no fun in only ‘Sanghis’ agreeing and patting each other’s back. We need ‘ trolls’ and ‘ Jehadis’ to fight with us to make this blog lively.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Vinodji must have sent urgent SOS to Mahesh and the just-waiting-outside-the-gate fake Ravi to conduct a rescue act.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Next time see if you can type in all Upper Case. It will have a yelling effect.

    Anonymous Reply:

    This blog-space has taught me the art of abusing without inviting the wrath of censor or breaching the basic etiquette of posting in a public forum. You’ll have to look for a post in All Caps from someone else.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh only gets intoxication problem.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh,

    You are no weakling in the abuse department yourself.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Arrey Shenoy Saahib. Aap apna lubhaavnaa andaaz kaise bhoola diye. Aakhirkaar woh Shwet-Lingam waali rachna ke rachnakar toh aap hi the naa.
    Ab mooh mat pheriyegaa apni rachna se.

    Anonymous Reply:

    ji haan, ’shwetha lingam’ ka rachnakaar main hoon,
    lekin usse munh mein rakh ke aap baithe hain!

    Anonymous Reply:

    Who is a historian? Why do I need to believe his hi’’story”?

    Not long ago. you had agreed that both Ram and Allah (whatever PBUH or similar) are fake on this very forum. So, what’s new about this now?

    This gentleman has a book to sell – and that’s about it.

    emotionalatyachaar Reply:

    Kaha sahi aap ne, kaun hai yeh historian,
    kaun hai scientist agar na maane mein science ko mahaan;

    kyuon mein maanu kisi artist ko,
    jab na samjhu mein art ke mahatwa ko;

    kaun kehta woh ek sureli gayak,
    jab mein na samjhu raag mein pharak;

    hisrtorians na karte hain kaam hoke bhavuk,
    sutra woh neekalte hain karke adhyan barso purana artefacts ko.

    Na Ram ya Allah ko hum karte hain aswikaar,
    kuch cheeze hote haise jisme na kuch hota hai karne aviskaar.

    Anonymous Reply:

    You confine yourself to jihadi literature.

    Ramayana is too good a subject to be discussed by fakes like you.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mohan Neelakantan is a young author taking artistic freedom/imagination to tell a story from another character’s perspective. While the artist has all the freedom to do this, the danger, especially in today’s electronic world is that at a time in future, this will be described by a future historian as the 301st Ramayana. . btw Ravana was never a bad king – from the praja perspective- in Aadi Kavi Valmiki’s Ramayana. He had blessings from the same set of Gods and Rishis as Rama had.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    The beauty of our country is that everybody has liberty to write anything about almost everything specially if it is about Hindu Mythology. Some will be respected, few will be heavily criticized and many will be ignored.
    I was expecting Ravi to pick this sentence from the article I had posted ” Neelakantan highlights how the advent of the Aryan civilisation led to the introduction of the caste system in the interiors of the country — a scourge which continues to plague society today.” Either he did not take the bait or he he did not read whole article :) .

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Future Historians will have a lot to look at when they start looking.
    Unlike today’s historians who use artefacts like “bakhars” – tomorrows artefacts are going to be large in number, requiring different – actually much different – set of analysis tools.
    Their artefacts will be storage devices used by different public blog engines, Facebooks, Linkedins and yes HT blogs too.
    Another interesting thing is – future historians would be in a lot better position to understand “commoner’s” opinions and sentiments. Much better than the current historians.

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    Ravi Reply:

    Would it not be easier if they just relied on their deep seated belief and pure speculation? Analysis and objectivity is for
    wimps and weak willed.

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh is being optimist and you, though sarcastically, are being pessimist. I have seen most of the times, pessimist win.

    vijay ! Reply:

    Good evening from GHouzhou. Will be leaving for Ukraine possibly flying over Tora Bora…

    Will definately look down for one man, thru my binocs…. reading Martha Nuss –without – bum and Wendy Doniger…

    Anonymous Reply:

    Mahesh
    Good points.
    However, the question is how will they sort out the wheat from the chaffe. The question of data vs information..

    ie Manohar extols UPA, Indian legal system etc, while BVS brings up UPA issues..multiply it by thousands..and the truth is somewhere in between

    Anonymous Reply:

    Gopi,
    All said and done – there is no such thing as complete Objectivity. Don’t expect the historians to be “completely Objective”. You need to have a point of view – a stand – to make sense of things. Current historians have a point of view. Don’t expect future historians to be very different. After all, you need a bias and point of view to make sense of Data.
    And yet – the real objectivity shines through when in defending and debating the methodologies and biases.
    Try reading through the history of early days in quantum mechanics – you will understand . Historians are no different.